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Aug. 8, 2011 - Project Camelot
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PROJECT CAMELOT: BILL BROWN - GIZA UPDATE AUGUST 2011
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Hi there, this is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and we are about to start a live stream update with Bill Brown and Lucina Brown from Giza this is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and we are Geomatrix, the team that has been on the ground in Giza and letting us know what is going on over there.
So if everyone will stay tuned, we will have them on the line here shortly and be able to start out.
This is a very impromptu sort of a getting together to do this.
So if you bear with us one moment.
Okay, there you are.
So we've got, this is Bill Brown and Lucina Brown from Giza GeoMatrix.
And hopefully you can hear me okay.
I do have a leaf blower person on the background.
So Bill, why don't you introduce yourself for the people that are not familiar with your work, and let's go from there.
Okay, my name is Bill Brown.
I'm a retired civil engineer from America.
And we're going to be talking about...
Okay.
Can you hear?
No, I cannot hear you at the moment.
Hold on, please.
Sorry.
I'm not sure what's going on.
Could you try this again?
Okay.
All right.
My name is Bill Brown.
I'm a retired civil engineer from America, living in Poland here with my wife, Lucena.
I've been to Egypt 41 times since November of 2003, and tonight we're going to be talking about what's going on at Giza relating to the water pumping project.
Great.
Okay, thank you very much.
And if you would like to maybe tell people a tiny bit about your background in terms of Archaeology, and I know that you've done a lot of GPR work out there on the plateau as well as other kinds of dousing.
I understand that Lucina is, maybe you would term her an intuitive or a psychic, who has helped you in your work.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
As an engineer, we do the ground-penetrating radar Based on specific areas of interest, my wife is very intuitive and psychic and handling, and she also does dowsing.
So, based on the combination of the intuitive gift as well as dowsing, we're able to pinpoint more accurately where to do the ground penetrating radar And over the past seven years or five years with Lucena,
the ground-penetrating radar has indicated her points of dousing as correct and have been verified in some places at Giza.
Okay, wonderful.
And at this time, we've done several interviews with you, Bill Brown, and also with Lucina, and I would like to let people know the topics that we're going to be discussing on the update today.
So could you give us a bit of an advance short summary of the topics that you're going to cover?
Okay, the first topic is going to be talking about the ground-penetrating radar areas We're going to
talk about an area of the GPR called Area 5.
Which was done in 2006, and we hope that this project will become an active project later this year.
We're talking with some people now in Egypt about that.
And then the third item that we want to talk about is there's a lot of activity going on where they're drilling a lot of water wells in the middle of excavation sites, and we want to talk about that a little bit.
Okay, very good.
So at this time, why don't we start off with the first topic, and let me see.
Before you do, though, you know, because I am concerned with people that might be tuning in for the first time, could you explain a little of the background in terms of what has been going on in the Giza Plateau just recently?
Because everyone knows that there has been a revolution Of sorts in Egypt, although it appears that I'm not sure that we actually have a new regime per se in control.
It seems that the military, if I remember, if I understand correctly what's going on over there, is in control.
And some people are being brought to trial, including Zahi Hawass, I believe.
But do you have any sort of background or updates in terms of the bigger sort of political social picture there?
Sure.
Okay.
In the revolution, there is no security anywhere at the major sites, particularly at Giza, which is what I'm going to be talking about.
I've been there now three times since the revolution.
And in the five years that I've been to Giza, there's always been high security and a lot of lighting used to protect areas.
Now there is no control and there is no lights.
And it's very aware that there is a lot of theft going on.
I have an apartment right there next to the area called the Workers' Village where Mark Lerner had been excavating, which is next to the big tall mountain area above the cemetery.
And at night you can see people walking around with flares, which indicates that they're going in and out of caves.
And I've actually seen that ongoing.
And I have looked after the Sound of Light Show.
There are no security lights.
And you can hear a lot of dogs barking, which indicates that there's people roaming around the area.
Okay, when you say people and a lack of security, are you talking about the average person can wander around out there, or are you talking about special access being given?
Because of the lack of security, I would say that the people that are involved know exactly where things are hidden.
I am aware of one case that I can talk about in which I went in in March of this year and took pictures along the Sphinx Causeway directly behind the Sphinx in an area where we had a GPR scan from 2006.
There wasn't I took the pictures in March, and when I went back in April, you could see the area had been excavated, and the word that we had gotten was two large black obsidian statues of Catherine had been removed.
It was the very same time that they said they found some statues, I believe, on another area Egypt that got the publicity, but not about Giza.
So this is kind of an example of, we know that there's a lot of items being removed without the control.
Okay, but when were you last in Egypt?
What month is this?
This is August.
August, okay.
I just came back from there a little over a month ago.
Okay.
I go about every month or every other month.
I'm scheduled to go to the end of this month.
I have associates that are there when I'm not I just talked to one on Skype today and he told me information about what's going on and will be sending me pictures tomorrow.
Okay, very good.
And are these, I mean, you say there's nobody in control, but, you know, I'm thinking that there is some kind of control, even though that, you know, that's, in other words, allowing for the people to get inside that maybe shouldn't be or that are taking things away.
In other words, Somehow this is being allowed, and the question is by who?
Is it the military that is allowing this to happen, in your view, or do you have a thought on that?
Well, based on the information of five years, and I'll have to be very careful politically how I say it, but in most cases in the past, the military have always been involved with it.
Okay.
Alright, so why don't we continue and cover the areas you've mentioned.
So go right ahead with your presentation.
And let me know if you need me to pull up any of the things that you've given me links to, for example, the pictures and so on.
Okay, if you could pull up the link of the GPR picture and show area 9.
Okay, hold on one moment.
Okay, I think I've got that and As far as Area 9...
Next to the Giza Village, next to the concrete wall.
Yeah, that would be...
That's about...
Yeah, that's here for the people who are watching this live.
You will see my pointer here circling Area 9.
So go right ahead.
That is on the screen.
On Mother's Day of this year, that area had begun to be cleared by the Egyptians using large mechanical machinery and a workforce that has cleaned the entire area, showing many, many cave sites.
This is the first phase in which We hope will be extended back a little bit farther north into an area that is associated with the illegal dig site that took place on the opposite side of the concrete wall in September of 2009.
In that 2009 We did receive official pictures from the Egyptian authorities and it did show some small cracks and some holes drilled in the cavern about seven and a half meters underground.
Just on the opposite side of that concrete wall is the area that we are hoping that they will do some cleanup and excavation a little bit later this year.
Okay, but the area number 9, what is the name of that area?
Okay, it's called the caves now.
If you go to the current website and you look at the video coverage, it actually shows the cleanup on May of this year.
Right, but this is the Cave of the Birds, is that what it's called?
No, no, the Cave of the Birds is way far to the west.
Oh, so this is a different area.
Yes.
This area is a new cleanup area to show how the ancient caves were used for burial for the Royalty people.
The Russians have been excavating a little bit farther north of the Area 9 for five years, but they have yet to publish anything of their findings, which is required by Egyptian law.
So we're not sure why the Egyptians are not releasing any information about this area.
It was GPR scanned in 2006, and it did show multiple underground anomalies that we call possible caverns.
That my wife had indicated through her intuitive gifts that there would be something found there in the near future, which was two years ago.
And we're hoping that this current cleanup project now will reveal something later this year.
Okay, but when you're referring to what you call a cleanup project, what is exactly, what is it you mean by that?
They're removing the sand and trash and garbage that was stockpiled over this area when they built the concrete wall starting in 2001.
So the backfill area was actually And that's what's been removed now.
Earlier excavations in the 1800s, the spoils were removed from the Mastava area in this area.
And our records indicate that that spoil area is covering a possible ancient temple that we do have some records about.
Okay.
I don't know if you're able to see the photograph that I guess Adrian has just put through showing, I guess to some degree, cleanup.
Is this photograph taken in this Area 9?
Yes.
This is the project that's been ongoing now for several months.
It is to the website.
You can go to the gallery on the website and see more of the pictures.
Okay, excellent.
Well, thank you very much, Adrienne.
It's very helpful for you to give me visuals of things as we go here for people to look at.
So, what I'm actually struck with, though, is that what we have here is a bulldozer.
Why is it that they are going in with a bulldozer in such a delicate operation?
Well, the bulldozer that was used removed about four meters of garbage and trash that was just backfilled.
They didn't actually get to the virgin ground area until several weeks into the operation.
So what they were taking away was not a delicate area until hopefully in another month it would become more delicate where they would have to do it with picks and shovels and buckets.
I see.
Okay.
Well, very interesting.
So who is authorizing or doing this operation here?
Okay.
Two businessmen from America financed it and met in April with the director of the Giza Plateau and another Egyptian SCA official and made it an official project And so that was phase one.
Dr.
Hawass was aware of it, and the businessman did meet with Dr.
Hawass in America on his tour in Cincinnati.
Okay, but what was their objective?
In other words, they wouldn't be cleaning it up, as you call it, because cleaning it up is sort of a strange way to approach an archaeological situation.
But they wouldn't be doing that unless they had to have previous knowledge that there would be something specific in that area.
What is it they think they're going to find?
No one is mentioned as to what anybody is going to find.
It was more definitely what we call a cleanup project, not an archaeological project.
We're expecting the project to go from a cleanup, like we did at Hawara, Well, we just removed sand up to three meters, and anything after three meter depth is in classified archaeological dig.
And we expect that to take place starting in September or October.
Okay, at that time, when it becomes an archaeological dig, who will be in charge at that point?
That's being discussed right now with several groups that are talking with officials, and we don't have that word yet, but we expect it to take place in September.
Right now, Ramadan is going on until the end of this month, so we think that we can just classify it as other people are going to become involved.
Our job was just to initiate it and to clean it up to get the project to the public.
Okay, when you say your job, do you mean Giza Geomatrix?
Your team initiated this?
Well, my wife, Lucina, and I were involved with the two businessmen from America who financed it to this point, yes.
Oh, really?
Okay.
But you must know more.
In other words, if you're involved with them and you helped initiate the project, you yourselves must have been motivated to get this to happen.
Yes, I always seem to be in the background of certain things that are going on there that I allow others to kind of like take the credit for.
Okay, and why did you focus on this particular area?
My wife indicated through her intuitive understandings that this would become a very important royal tomb site of discovery associated with 2012.
Oh, really?
Okay, very interesting.
Okay, so now why don't you continue from this point talking about this, you know, Area 9 or whatever else you wanted to talk about.
What I would like for is Adrian to listen in and let Lucy just say a couple of things about the project.
It'll be in Polish.
Okay.
We can text you.
Fine.
Okay.
Just for the listener who is out there, we are having someone in another location text us a translation.
Lucina is Polish and does not speak English.
So, and thank you again, Adrian.
So, Adrian will give us a translation of what Lucina now has to say.
Go right ahead, Lucina.
Speak slowly.
Okay.
No, it sounds good.
Go ahead.
Adrienne.
Hello.
Hello, Carrie.
Hello.
I only speak.
Talk about the Khufu poem.
It is two Khufu.
It's Khufu one, and this Khufu two.
Me, interesting tablets.
Tablet information.
Information.
Historia land.
Understand?
Okay, one moment.
This is a little unusual, the way we're doing this.
We're having some trouble with getting more than these two people on Skype and getting a clear signal here with all of it.
There are two tombs of Khufu, one and two.
Okay.
Go right ahead.
Sorry about this.
Okay, go ahead.
I'm talking about the tablets.
Tablets?
You can say in Polish.
No problem in Polish.
I don't know what is written there.
It is written in the history of the land.
And you have to get to it.
There are two roads.
Hufu 1 and Hufu 2.
A przy okazji, jak będziemy się dostawać do tablic, posprzątamy im płaskowyż.
Dwie korzyści będą.
History of the earth will be revealed and will be used in the earth.
Okay.
Is this transit?
Adrian transit.
Okay, does she have anything more to say?
That's all for right now.
Okay, fine.
So, go right ahead, Bill, and continue, please.
Okay, basically, what we're hoping to find under an official archaeological Hope will be taken over by someone in September, meaning that someone else is going to finance that portion of the project,
that some underground tomb would be discovered where ancient tablets associated with Khufu, the builder of the Great Pyramid, should be discovered.
And this is what the true purpose that the cleanup was initiated to get that project going.
We've been trying for five years to get an official SCA permit, which was always blocked.
And so we found that the cleanup would initiate them to start a project and then allow someone to follow through with it.
Okay, but to get back to what you think is going to happen there, you believe that they're going to find the tomb of Khufu, is that correct?
We think that they're going to find a temple associated with Khufu.
The Dr. Hawass and Dr. Lerner indicated that the current village now is the location of the ancient Khufu palace area.
And Lucina and I are going at the end of this month to Egypt after we talk in Budapest conference to meet with the professor at the University of Qatar.
A possible project to research this area a little bit more.
We believe that it will take us to the area associated with Area 9 because we believe the temple is on both sides of the wall.
That the wall actually splits the temple and that portion of it is underneath the village Which I have been researching privately for several years.
Okay, but this is the Khufu Temple Complex.
Is it in front of the Great Pyramid?
Yes, the entire village covers that entire palace.
It's under about 15 meters of sand.
That's been verified.
Okay, but there are houses built on some of it?
Yes, that's the problem.
I have talked with officials and there are some specific areas that are Qualified now as landscape areas in which they know that the temple is only about three meters underground.
That area is controlled by the government, and we hope that we can initiate some projects to do some exploratory excavation in the areas where there are no houses.
Okay.
But again, what you're talking about is that you yourselves would get a permit.
Now, I thought that you were, maybe I have this wrong, but I thought you were banned from getting permits on the Giza Plateau.
Is that changed?
That's correct, under the old regime.
But we're hoping now that many of those officials that were involved That we're blocking everything, that we're hoping that the new policy will allow more people and new people to be able to go on site.
I see.
And is Zahiawa still involved over there?
No.
He's not?
He has his contacts, but he has no official authority, which is the word we need to use on the Officially, he cannot do anything.
Okay.
Where is he physically?
Is he in prison or is he free?
Well, the last thing that I heard, we've been in contact with him by email about a few times and he was an American.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
I thought that he was on trial.
That trial was finished.
And he was resolved of all his sins.
What do you mean by resolved?
Do you mean that he was let go free?
He was allowed to go free, yes.
And so he was basically, he was found, I'm sorry, he was found innocent is what you're saying.
He was found innocent, but what is interesting is immediately afterwards he was removed from his position of ministry at the same time.
So, America, we call it plea bargaining, I believe.
Okay, interesting.
And you're talking, was the trial covering everything that had ever been taken, any case that he had been accused of, because there was quite a litany of cases?
I'm just indicating that there are many more that I believe will be brought forward, but I think the trial with President Mubarak is more interesting to the people right now.
I see.
Okay, fine.
So where are you at in terms of, you know, this update that you're giving?
Where did you want to go from here?
Okay, the other area we would like to talk about is an area over near the Tomb of Osiris, which is called area number 5 and 6C on the map.
Okay, so let me see if I can get the original map up here.
There we go.
And 5 and 6, so 5 and 6C, and that's kind of down lower here on the map.
Let me see if I can move this up so it's a little...
Actually, that just makes it farther away.
But at any rate, we're talking about 5 and 6, so what is the...
Okay, and now I've gotten a bit more of a close-up of it.
So this is the tomb of Osiris that you're talking about.
Okay, go right ahead and you can discuss it and I'll just kind of shift between the pictures so people can sort of see the back.
This is the large picture so that you can see the setting with relationship to the pyramids that we're talking about.
Okay, and area nine again that we were discussing earlier is over here.
Five and six is over here.
Go right ahead.
Okay, and 6C is associated with the Tomb of Osiris, and I was recently inside, and we were able to take a lot of pictures, which is on the website.
We can link that to Richard Gabriel's website.
We found that the water level inside the tomb is very, very high, And that they had to build a wooden platform and walkway in order to get over to the tunnel in the northwest corner.
Dr.
Hawass released officially on his website that the Japanese had been sending a mechanical robot Into the mud and taking pictures and that it went a total of 144 feet.
We have been able to discover that that 144 feet is exactly to an area called what we call T4 or Tomb No.
4, which has shown up under the ground penetrating radar test of 2006.
This is an area that my wife had indicated five years ago that we would be able to find a tomb of records or more tablets associated with Khufu air.
So we are working now privately with some people that hope to get that project up and going later this fall also.
Okay, very interesting.
And when you're talking about the tablets, what kind of tablets are you talking about?
Well, like the coniferous tablets or the ancient Egyptian, what I call, in my destiny that I call, is in search of the halls of record.
These are the tablets that would be found in many of the rooms that Edgar Cayce had talked about.
We believe this is one of the areas.
Okay.
And how far underground is this?
The depth of the third chamber is around, I believe, 35 meters, 108 feet, I believe, below the surface of the walkway of the Sinks Cosmet.
108 meters.
No, no, 108 feet.
108 feet, okay.
Now, I don't know, can you see what Adrian has just sent through, which looks kind of like a plan that if you were to go underground, what you might find?
Correct.
Okay.
And where would this originate?
Like, if you were on the top, you would be in Area 6?
Is this below Area 6?
It's between 6B and 6C, yes.
Okay.
We're going to say 6C, in 6C. Okay, and then at the very bottom of this image that Adrian sent through, is this area what you would call a location for the Hall of Records?
One of the many rooms of the Hall of Records, yes.
I see.
Alright.
Yeah, very interesting.
So, at the moment, are you in dialogue with the military about your plans?
No.
Okay.
Not with the military, but with certain people that may be associated with them.
I do an arm's length transaction.
In other words, I don't speak directly Okay, but do you have people that do speak to these people?
I mean, obviously you must, right?
Yes.
Okay.
And what you're talking about is going into these different areas and trying to get them excavated.
Is this because they're being ignored?
Yes, they are being ignored.
I officially gave this information to the Egyptians in April of 2009.
Complete with engineering background, archaeological sketches, GPR data.
It was given to the officials, but we found that the Japanese had been working in that area at the same time.
Well, why is that an obstacle?
Well, nobody knew that they were working there for a year until Dr.
Awas went public.
So the mud rovers that went into the tunnel, he has not released any more information for the past year.
Did they find something or didn't they?
Okay, but isn't it possible that if indeed they had already gone in there and excavated, that they would have removed whatever was there?
There's a good chance.
Okay.
There's a good chance.
Okay.
Because we know of two other entrances, and I have been informed from my informants that they have officially seen people going in and out of the area over a year ago.
Okay, when you say you know of two other entrances, I have the larger map on the screen at the moment.
Are you able to say where those entrances are?
Right where 5 is located on the map.
Okay.
That's one entrance or both entrances are in that area?
Well, one is where 5 is and then right where you see the letter 6C is the other entrance.
Okay.
So 6C would be at this end.
And five, I believe, is at this end.
Okay, and Adrian has just put up a GPR result showing, I guess, where the ground-penetrating radar is indicating that one might dig because there is something significant.
Is that the idea?
That's correct.
Okay.
Alright, so now in terms of, again, keeping on sort of a schedule in terms of where you want to go from here, why don't you move ahead?
Okay, the next thing I would like to talk about is all the wells that are being drilled in the area of the Great Pyramid.
Okay.
Especially in front of the Sphinx.
I'd like to go to the latest article that's been posted on the website called In the Rise of the latest article that was just published.
Before we do that, since I have the GPR map, the Great Pyramid I'm seeing at the top, would that be, where exactly would the area that you're going to now talk about be in reference to that pyramid?
Would it be number one?
It's going to be the area directly in front of the Sphinx.
In front of the Sphinx.
Okay, so direct me as to, is it numbered on this map?
The Sphinx is not really numbered, it looks like.
So would it be these big sort of digs that are happening in front of the Sphinx?
Yes, in front of the Sphinx and to the south.
Okay, and it looks like Adrian is sending us through some photos here.
Of this dig that is happening.
And I was out there, as you may know, a little, almost, well, not a year ago, about nine months ago, and this is quite a substantial dig.
Correct.
They have been digging there since 2008.
They actually started making the major discoveries of mud brick structures.
Okay, so when you say you want to go to your article, and I'm just pulling at least the screen up so people can see the URL to link to, basically it's gizamap.com.
This is called the Khufu Project, and the article you're saying is in the rise.
So...
What specifically did you want to direct our attention to?
Okay, if you go to, I scanned down into that, it's called The Caves, The Future of Our World Expanded.
Right behind that is what I want to talk about.
It's all in writing there, so I'll just speak about it.
The research is by the University of Calgary, a person named Carmen Balter.
Right, and I traveled with Carmen, so I'm familiar with her work.
But I'm wondering, when you say the article, I'm not sure, is it to scroll down on the page to find us?
Yeah, you just scroll down on the page until you get below the Egypt and Pyramid Mysteries.
But I'm going to be talking about it, but I'm saying that people can actually read the text on that article.
Okay, fine.
Go ahead.
And what I want to talk about is that what Karaman has discussed is, number one, he indicated that the Great Pyramid served as an energy generator based on the materials it was constructed out of and its location on intersecting ley lines.
The article actually shows that there are three major fault lines on the Giza Plateau.
Those fall lines are considered lay lines, and they do transfer energy from underground.
The second thing that he says is that the ancient Egyptians may have had the energy devices that used taluric or earth currents, or that they were able to actually tap this energy.
And then he also says...
Yeah, Carmen is a woman, just...
She says that it was the interaction of sunlight on water moving through zigzag passageways to build a charge with crystalline matrices.
This specifically is based on information that a friend of mine, his name was Hakim, he's passed away now, and he taught me a lot during the five years of research at Giza.
And one of the things that he told me was that the water underground, Giza, was actually energized by the sunlight.
And so this sunlight that charges this energy was used by the ancient Egyptians to activate and work with the pyramids.
So the point that I have is Right now, for ten years, the Egyptians have been excavating in front of the Sphinx very delicately, keeping the general public out of the area, and all of a sudden, I go there, and there's ten water drilling rigs all over the site, irregardless of the fact that it was an archaeological project.
Really?
Really.
Yes, and if you look further into the bottom end of the article, you'll actually see pictures of these well-drilling trucks, and there's at least one dozen wells now right in the middle of this site.
The question I asked the Egyptians when we were talking about the cleanup of the cave area, was what was going on and it was a very hush-hush operation.
No one would tell us why they're drilling.
Dr.
Hawass has gone on record for years to say that the wells were simply to remove the water to save the sinks.
Right.
There were four or five wells in the area where the circle is that was pumping the water, and all of a sudden they go in and drill five more right next to it.
That's fascinating.
Very interesting.
Yeah, they're very deep wells.
Okay, and you're saying, are you saying that these wells are on the ley lines?
exactly directly on top of the ley lines in front of the sinks If you go to the article, I actually go to the map of the...
Go straight to in front of the sinks.
Yes.
If you remember, they have been working in the area right next to the southwest corner for two years, and Dr.
Hawass made an announcement that they found a solar boat there.
Well, we've had the GPR scan in 2006 that showed that it was a major fault area right there.
That salt line continues straight down, going through the road into in front of the sinks.
And while I was there, they're drilling two water wells in the middle of the road.
Well, that's really, really interesting.
But why?
I mean, you know, so why do they have to drill so many, even if they were drilling?
And why are they drilling anyway?
But what, you know, what is it in your mind is happening there?
Well, if we believe the writings of this woman that we just talked about, Carmen, she says that the water activates the pyramids.
And if you remove the water, you're deactivating the pyramid.
And we believe that this is associated with perhaps the activation of the 2012 when our Sun right now is changing and giving sunlight frequencies that would indeed transfer power to the underground water Very,
very interesting.
Okay, so are you saying that they are purposely deactivating the pyramids or taking away the water so that the activation would not happen when normally it would?
Well, that's what I'm indicating is my theory.
When I ask them why they were drilling, no one will talk about it.
So, just on the research that I have, and with us knowing that the 2012 activation is very important for many people on the planet, will we just call it a coincidence or not?
Right.
Well, obviously not.
It's a very...
It's very purposeful, but what, in theory, if you understand what's going on in terms of activating the Great Pyramid, and it sounds like you think that the other pyramids might also be, the second pyramid and perhaps the smaller pyramid would be activated also in this sort of scenario where the underground water would activate.
Do you think there is In terms of the activation, what is it you feel that should be happening and what do you feel they're trying to prevent?
Well, what I've noticed is when I went inside the tomb of Osiris, I was amazed how high the water was in the tomb of Osiris.
And the fact that they have all of these wells everywhere, it's not lowering the water table.
And this has been going on for years.
Okay, well, is it possible they're...
Well, first of all, maybe there's too much groundwater, and they can't.
They don't have the ability to get rid of it.
Because I do understand, even if you look at the work, and I don't know if you're familiar with her, but Antoine Gigal, she talks about the entire plateau being surrounded by water, and that water came up quite close to the big pyramids originally.
And so if one understands that the water does have subsided, but it may still be underground there, it may not even be possible to drain that area.
So maybe they're redirecting the water.
Maybe it's more of a redirection.
Well, in the engineering, and I'm a civil engineer, and I work with the water and hydraulics, and was trying to help Dr.
Shaheen at the Hawara Project.
When you put a system of wells in an area, in a matrix or a pattern, which they have, it's called drawdown, in which the water is just simply drawn down to a lower level, but you cannot in which the water is just simply drawn down to a lower level, but you cannot What is interesting is, where is the water going that they are pulling out?
And we found that they're building a new road from the Sphinx all the way back to the new amphitheater.
And we noticed that they're pumping all that water out of the ground and taking the water to the amphitheater area, which has been under construction now for five years.
Why would they be pumping water to the amphitheater area?
Okay.
Well, can you answer that question?
Do you know why?
Well, according to the sources that I have, there is a huge underground bunker underneath the area, and we believe that the water is being used for that facility.
Oh, you mean for human use in an underground base of sorts?
Yes.
I think it's a well-planned water supply to be able to feed water to that underground bunker area for the next two to three years.
Okay.
Fascinating.
Is it possible then that they are not able, they're not going to be able to deactivate the pyramid?
I don't think anybody humanly can do that, no.
I don't think anybody has that power.
Alright.
Well, that's very, very interesting.
Let me ask you this.
Why would they be focusing the drilling of these so-called wells in that particular area over other areas, if in theory the groundwater might be all the way under the pyramid in the whole plateau?
Well, the wells are everywhere.
They're into the village.
There's at least a half a dozen of them in the village.
I asked that question and many of the people within the village itself have shallow wells for their own water supply.
If you put a drawdown in, you're taking their water supply away from them, forcing them to hook up to the existing water line that's there, which can be shut down In a moment's notice.
We believe that it may be part of a program to force people to leave the area in the future.
Oh, fascinating.
All right.
Especially in the village area next to the concrete wall and in the area over by the workers' village where I have an apartment.
And we know that they are systematically We're automatically shutting the power off in quality and have been doing that for several years.
We believe it may be a part of a program to make people leave.
I see.
Okay.
Yeah, I hear you.
All right.
from here where do you want to go that's the major gist that I have and that's what I wanted to talk about was why are they pumping so much water and where is it going um That's pretty much what I wanted to talk about today.
That's what the article is about.
Okay.
You can read many of the other articles that we'll be talking about for some more conferences in the near future.
All right, well, you know, we do have people in the chat here, and I think some of them might be asking some questions, and I think we could definitely allow them to, you know, some of the questions in if you have some time here.
And then on top of it, I was wondering if, you know, because we haven't addressed the, again, the sort of the box that contains the, well, what I believe is a crystal that is hidden within the Khufu temple area and that has the force field around it.
We've talked about the cleanup operation, but we haven't actually talked about what more things might have happened to In their sort of striving to get down to access the box.
Has there been any news in that regard?
Yes.
We've gotten a lot closer.
The cleanup area The area is involved with that.
That's the purpose of the cleanup area on the concrete side of the wall or the geese side of the wall.
The village is very important.
We have received information that they want to remove quite a few of the houses in the area adjacent to the concrete wall, and we're hoping that that could be forced into an archaeological dig site.
We hope that the crystalline device will be recovered before that.
Okay, but...
Relatively soon.
But is your understanding, I mean, you know, you're aware of it.
I assume that Zahia Was is aware of it.
Are the people that are currently in charge of this area aware of it as well?
And is this not in the hands of the U.S. military, for example?
I'm not involved with any military associated with that part.
I'm an independent researcher.
Well, yeah, I'm asking your opinion.
I know that you're not involved, but what I'm asking is whether or not, in your view, certain militaries are involved and who they might be.
It's my personal opinion that there are military involved, yes.
I know of people that have talked about it to me and that the exact location of the device I've been aware of for over a year and we are hoping that that's what September and October is about.
Excuse me, but what do you mean by September and October, what that's about?
What do you mean by that?
I'm returning to Egypt at the end of the month to talk to some people.
We're hoping that the recovery of the device will take place soon.
Okay.
But, you know, and, you know, Bill, I understand that this is a sensitive subject, but if...
If militaries don't want this sort of interfered with, except that they get their hands on it, how do you think that that's going to be possible?
I think they allow everybody to do what they're doing and they monitor it.
And at the appropriate time, we'll see what happens.
Okay.
Very interesting.
Yeah, and I guess the closer we get to, well, 2012, and we're actually moving very, very close.
Just offhand, do you think that LNN, the information about LNN, is affecting any of this goings-on in the Giza Plateau at this time?
I believe the cosmic plan is involved in September through November of this year and that that cosmic obstacle in space is involved with what's going on in our dimension.
I don't believe it's just a comment.
Sure.
Okay.
What about I mean, because you have this whole sort of theory that's on the Giza Geomatrix website that you talk about and you diagram out in terms of a kind of safety valve, almost, that you feel is operational or could be operational if certain things were to work the way you think they should.
You know, do you think that your plan or your thoughts of what that plan might be is still operational or potentially operational?
Potentially it's very operational, I believe, yes.
Okay.
Am I right in thinking that the powers that be do not want to see this happen?
In other words, you felt that there would be, by a certain activation, by what was going on with the box, etc., etc., that there could be something done to alleviate or mitigate, in essence, the earth changes that we're entering upon during this time.
As a result of moving into the galactic center, as a result of the activity on the Sun, etc., etc., etc., you felt that there was a way of protecting the Earth sort of embedded in all of that kind of activation, did you not?
Correct.
And at the moment, do you think there's any hope that that will happen, or do you feel that it's going to be prevented?
I believe it's going to happen, and I believe it's going to happen earlier than planned.
Okay, so...
It happened earlier than planned.
Meaning probably in the next few months is what you're...
This year.
Yeah.
Okay.
I believe that November is probably the most critical timing of it.
I think that's what will set everything into motion.
I think something has to happen as an initiator that will then snowball.
Okay.
Isn't it possible there are other power places on the planet where the same thing is going on and that, you know, because I myself and many, many groups, for example, are looking to go to Machu Picchu in the time of 11-11 and I know that you've spent some time in that area and various areas in South America as well.
Isn't that right?
That's correct.
I have been there.
And my understanding in talking with the shaman there is that everything is interconnected.
That the Great Pyramid is the initiator, but there are multiple, many, many other sites that will be part of the snowballing effect.
But I believe that the Giza Plateau was planned for this time period to Or part of what I call the divine plan to be the initiator.
But they're all going to happen all at the same time.
Okay, yeah.
And that includes Stonehenge as well.
Everybody.
Everybody.
Yeah.
They're all connected to the ley lines.
And the ley lines are connected to the fault lines.
And the fault lines go all the way around the planet.
They're all connected.
They're one.
So you can't stop anything in one particular point except put a plug in it.
Okay.
And electricity is going to come in from the other side.
Yeah, fascinating.
Okay, so now I'm going to go to some of the questions.
If you don't mind, we'll do that for a short bit here.
Okay.
So, for the people in the chat, you know, you'll excuse me.
I'll try to read your questions here.
It does help if you put your questions in caps for me to determine what's questions versus what is just idle chatter, you know, under these circumstances.
So I'm trying to see what, if anything, people are asking.
Yeah, I don't.
Okay, are there...
Let me put it this way.
Is there anyone in the chat that has a question?
Could you please retype your question in all caps if you do at this time?
I'm looking back.
I'm sorry here for the delay.
I am actually looking back through the chat to see if there's any clear-cut questions that I'm able to ask you.
Okay.
It's how can we connect with the gentleman to discuss opening the hall?
That's kind of a strangely worded question, but what would you say to that?
Well, it's interesting.
I just received an email from a person that asked the same question.
Okay.
They put a dating on it of 8-08-2012.
As a part of the activation of the Halls of Breckhardt, and that there are many people associated with that process, not necessarily have to be physically there at Giza.
My understanding is that what I call the Stargate of activation is 0808-2012.
If anybody wants to make direct contact with me, like this person did, just simply send a question to GizaMap, and it automatically is forwarded by Adrian directly to my email.
Okay.
It says, if you get stuck, you should ask the European Union Heads of Mission meeting in Cairo There could be white hats there.
There's somebody saying this person is calling themselves a white hat and saying there could be white hats at the meeting in Cairo.
Do you know anything about this heads of mission meeting in Cairo?
Not personally, no.
But if anybody can send a link, I would be glad to make a connection.
Okay.
And that's the reason...
I do the websites to try and get people to make a connection so that we can connect for everyone.
Okay, now a person is asking, are there any new readings on the energy sources that exist in the Sphinx and Hall of Records chambers?
I haven't done any readings in the past year.
So, other than what happened in 2010, when we first started talking, that's the only energy activation I'm aware of.
Okay, can you be more specific as to what happened in 2010?
In 2010, there was discussion when one of the devices was thought to be discovered that there was an activation coming from the top of the Great Pyramid.
I believe what we're looking for now is not an activation at the top of the pyramid, but on the bottom of the pyramid at the crystalline structure, which is, if you understand, in my understanding, Nuclear vision is cooled down by water,
and I believe that the water is needed to work with the crystal underneath the Great Pyramid, and I think that's where we're going to see energy coming from.
Okay.
more than at the top.
All right.
I'm actually panning back again to find out if there's any other...
There is somebody here writing about guardians who may be able to power up the grids connecting us to the Eye of Horus and the spiritual dimension of Osiris.
Does that have any significance for you?
On a higher level, I believe we're all connected to that dimension.
I think we are connected on those dimensions and that in a 3D, free will society, we choose as volunteers to be the grounding device to make it happen here.
Right, okay.
That's an interesting way of referring to it as the spiritual dimension of Osiris.
I personally might take issue with that, but it's an interesting sort of way of looking at it, I guess.
So let me see.
Someone is saying, how do you see the year 2013?
Very cold.
I see it as just the beginning of about a 20-year cycle.
It's like a newborn.
I believe the energy will take time to evolve.
Us into 2013 is just the beginning.
I perceive the year 2032 as the final culmination of the 2012 plan.
Okay.
Let's see.
At this time, you talked about Hakim, and Hakim is somebody who was considered to be something of a sage on the pyramid, an older man who was Something of the sort of the person that in many ways kind of kept the history of the area in a way himself,
kind of a keeper of the history or the records in a sense.
And I know that he was very good friends also with Carmen Balta and has given her a great deal of information.
It appears that perhaps he also communicated quite a bit of information to you.
And I know that he passed on recently.
Can you tell me what his thoughts were in regard to all of this and is this some of his information that you are bringing forward here?
It was directly the results of his teachings to me over a three-year period that helped me understand what I know about the Geese Plateau and how important the water was to the plateau and that it was very sacred and that part of my mission was to understand more Details
of what I could do to ensure that maybe plans of others might not be allowed to happen.
So Hakeem was a very spiritual person and he talked to me about How old the pyramids were and the history.
Yes.
And all of that is on his website and in his books.
Okay.
Do you know his website, for example?
Could you give that out?
They did give it to me.
I just lost it.
I was looking for it today.
Okay.
Is his son...
Let me ask you this.
We can put that later on the page for people, but...
Is this correct?
Is it his son or his daughter that is now sort of moving forward with this information?
Well, every time I go to Egypt, I meet with them, and it's both.
Okay.
It's both his son and his daughter, very much, very much.
He has quite a few sons and daughters, so I would tell you that I work with Joseph It helps me.
And the last time I was there, I asked him specifically for the website, and he gave it to me.
And it was interesting that he would come up now about the sunlight.
Okay.
I know that there are a few other questions here in the chat, but I do want to ask you, the water under the Giza Plateau, is it possible that it is a special water, that it is...
Possibly been separated from other water sort of sources and that indeed that it may have been sort of imbibed in the past with some special energy and that this is also that it may have for example life extension properties or other special energy in it.
Have you considered that?
Yes, very much.
And that's the purpose for the underground labyrinth system.
The underground labyrinth system stores the energy and allows that energy to build over thousands of years.
So what you're...
In other words, the crystals in the crystalline structure of the plateau, of the...
Of the pyramids and the pyramid structure itself has charged the water in such a way over the centuries that it might be very, very special water at this point.
Yes, it's the actual design of the pyramid shape itself that did that, yes.
Over 50,000 years, you might say.
But I'm not saying the Great Pyramid's that old.
Right, and also the fact that the stone is A crystalline, it's like a rose quartz, is it not?
That's correct.
That's correct.
And so, the water holds memory, holds energy, and holds the records.
And if we can learn how to tap that, I think we'll, that's what we're here for.
Okay, however...
90% water.
Okay, right.
But the fact that they're drilling wells at this time and redirecting that water and perhaps even taking it elsewhere and so on, that's rather concerning.
Well, it's like dipping the ocean out with a teaspoon.
I don't think they have the capacity to change it one-tenth of one percent.
Okay, very interesting.
I'm not going to keep you much longer.
I'm going to ask you a couple of other questions that I see here in the chat, and then we'll let you go.
And I do appreciate all the time you've taken here with us today, Bill Brown.
Very, very interesting information.
And we will be putting this out there.
You'll be able to embed it in your website and so on.
Do you know what they found when they opened the Osiris sarcophagus?
Someone is asking.
Yes.
I'm not supposed to say the people involved I think we all know who it was in 1997 and 1998.
They did find something, and that was an underground tunnel system.
It didn't show up on their GPR radar, and we know that that tunnel system has been accessed with underwater divers, and we do believe that, according to my sources, that the tomb itself was just the portal or the doorway into that underground area.
Okay, very interesting.
Let's see, do we know where the GR8 pyramid shafts point at winter solstice?
2012, I guess is what they're asking.
Which shaft?
I'm not sure.
They're actually calling it GR8, it looks like GR8 if I'm reading it correctly.
Yeah.
Yes, I'm releasing, I'm doing an article on it right now.
Okay, you're breaking up.
I'm sorry, you're breaking up.
GR8 will be discussed in my next article, and the answer is it does tie to December or winter or solstice alignment.
Okay, but what about specific stars?
Yes, it does.
It's Pleiadians.
Pleiades is the star system that I have it connected to.
Pleiades.
Okay, let me ask you this.
What about the significance of Sirius on the plateau?
Because...
Wayne Herschel, for example, has done quite a bit of work in that regard and recently I've interviewed the Dogon who are also obviously associated with that constellation.
Cirrus has always been a number one star for the Egyptians for at least 5,000 years.
I have been able to associate it in a combination of Andrew Collins' work on the Cygnus theory and the Robert Boval Hancock on the Orion theory,
theory and I've actually merged the two together and have found a specific location for Cirrus and its location at the Giza Plateau.
That's also a part of what I call the star theory and that will be discussed, that's being worked on right now.
Cirrus is very important, and if we can get an alignment, something to align to it physically, I think it could give us a proof of the actual dating of Okay, and this is the last question I'm going to ask here.
Someone in the chat is asking, what is your best assessment of the portal to the Hall of Records?
In front of the Sphinx.
Right, yeah.
I know people that have been there basically about 20 years ago.
And that I'm working with some people to make that access this year.
Okay.
You mean you're working with people to access that this year?
Yes.
Okay.
All right, Bill Brown.
Well, thank you very much for all the information and for the wonderful update in regard to the Pyramid Complex In the Giza Plateau.
And also for your diligent work in this area, for all the Giza Geomatrix team and the work they are doing and the people that are helping you out with that, I hope that you will come back and give us another update in the near future.
I'm sorry if we haven't gotten to everyone's questions or if you had questions and you were trying to get through, but for some reason we're not able to.
But at any rate, certainly you can visit the Giza Geomatrix websites.
One of them is gizamap.com.
The other one is richardgabriel.info.
I've got several other interviews and links to these sites on my site on projectcamelot.org.
All you have to do is search in the Project Camelot Library and you will find the previous interviews.
To get yourself updated in case you are not up to date with everything they've been talking about.
And then of course go to their sites for more information.
Do you have any parting words, Bill, that you'd like to say here before we let you go?
I would like to just thank everybody.
I've been getting a lot of comments on the website forwarded to me, and I appreciate a lot of the information that people are passing on to me, and that we're all a part of the team.
Everybody is part of the Geese of Geometrics as far as I'm concerned.
And that information that has been provided from the people has helped me understand more and I will pass that information on as part of how I can assimilate it with my work.
Thank you.
Alright.
Thank you very much.
You take care.
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