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06/15/2011 Marshall Klarfeld.

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	Hello.
	This is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and it is Wednesday night, June 15th on 2011, And we have an interesting guest this evening.
	His name is Marshall Klarfeld, and he's written a book called Adam the Missing Link.
	It, according to the website, blows the lid off a closely held package of historical and scientific facts proving that the human race was created by genetic engineering technology nearly a quarter of a million years ago.
	And I certainly would agree with that.
	Whether or not this particular version of that is the only version or whether there are several interventions in our genetic background, we'll discuss that with Marshall shortly.
	I do want to announce that our LNN The video conference that was going to be scheduled for Friday the 17th has been moved to Friday the 24th and that is June 24th and right now it's looking like it's probably going to start around 1 p.m.
	in the afternoon Pacific time.
	Richard Hoagland has gotten some new information and needs to get his stuff together so that he can present it in as best a way as possible, and so we needed that little bit of extra time.
	Our other speakers will be on board for that, and I'm very excited that they're still all going to be able to make it.
	And if possible, we might be inviting one or two others.
	I do encourage you to purchase a ticket now because the price will go up.
	Right now it's $20 for the live event.
	It will be a video conference so you will be able to see the speakers as well as type into the chat your questions and it will go on for about three hours.
	It will be a substantial discussion about LNN and all of the aspects in question And it will also, Richard Hoagland will be giving quite a bit of detail in terms of what he knows thus far.
	Really fascinating information.
	He's already filled me in to some extent.
	And I also have whistleblower testimony in the background that does correlate with some of his information.
	Just sort of a heads up on that.
	It looks like it could be a paradigm changing event.
	Our whistleblowers are telling us that it could be piloted craft.
	Now, whether that means it's inhabited or being remotely piloted, we don't know.
	And that will be something more that we're discussing with Richard Hoagland and the rest of the group, which includes Keith Hunter and Andy Lloyd.
	And Carl Callamon.
	And so it should be a very, very interesting discussion.
	And I do encourage everyone to sign up for that event.
	If for some reason you're not available, you can't listen to it live, then you are going to be able to purchase it after the fact for probably the same price.
	And that will be available, you know, like a day or so later.
	It will be on sale on our website after the actual recording of the event.
	But as you can appreciate, this will be really cutting-edge information, so it would be great if you could join us.
	Okay, other than that, let me see if there's anything else I need to tell you about.
	We do have our ticket sales going on for Awake and Aware in 2011, which is going to be in September 23rd, 24th, and 25th.
	If you aren't aware of it, it is on the front page.
	The home page is of ProjectCamelot.org, which is in essence the portal.
	You can scroll down and see the poster there and click through to the actual Awake and Aware 2011 website.
	Where you can see all the different speakers.
	We have David Wilcock and Richard Hoagland, Bob Dean, Marsha Shafer, Miriam Delicato, Graham Hancock, making a special trip from England to appear at our conference.
	Rich Dolan.
	We've got Duncan O'Finnian and Axe, a secret sort of super soldier special guest.
	And Sean David Morton, as well as myself and Bill Ryan from Project Camelot.
	This event is produced by Project Camelot Productions, and we're having a lot of fun putting it all together.
	It's going to be quite an exciting event, and we will also have whistleblowers behind the scenes.
	All whistleblowers are allowed in free.
	So now, without further ado, I'd like to introduce Marshall Klarfeld.
	Marshall, are you there?
	Hello.
	Okay.
	Uh, maybe not.
	Not sure if, uh, what's going on here.
	Um, I'm going to ask them and in the meantime, uh, until we get Marshall on the line, uh, and, and I do hope they're, they're going to be able to reach him.
	I don't see anything indicating that they haven't been able to, uh, get Marshall on the line.
	I'm not sure.
	Maybe there's a sound issue.
	Hello?
	Marshall?
	Hi.
	Can you hear me?
	Marshall, now I can hear you.
	Okay, great.
	Good to be here.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Lovely to have you.
	I'm glad we're able to connect here.
	So, it's very exciting to have you on Whistleblower Radio and I'm very interested in hearing the background of your book and also your own background because I see that you have quite an interesting background at Caltech and in science.
	It was interesting, Carrie, when I entered Caltech, a lot of things happened that year.
	It was 1947, and that's when Roswell happened.
	Right.
	And the word UFO came into our sights at that time.
	It hadn't been coined before, but unidentified flying objects were all over the place after Roswell became an event.
	Absolutely.
	And also, at Caltech that year, they were finishing polishing the 200-inch polymer mirror.
	That was one of the largest telescopes at that time, and it was right next door to where I was living, so I got to watch it.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay, well, you're talking about Mount Palomar, are you not?
	Yes, yes, ma'am.
	That was the 200-inch Mount Palomar telescope, which Caltech ground the glass and finished it off, and then they had to Closed down the boulevard to take it out of the place where it was being done, and I watched all that.
	It was kind of history being made right next door.
	Right.
	Now, isn't that where the Vatican has their observatory?
	No, it's on Mount Palomar in California.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	I thought it was in Arizona.
	Well, there are lots of telescopes, but the 200 inch mirror at Mount Palomar was the first large refractive telescope that the United States ever built.
	Since then, there have been bigger ones, and they're all over the place.
	They're on mountaintops in Chile and in Hawaii and, you know, etc.
	But it was quite exciting to be there.
	And another thing that your audience might be interested in, across the hall from where the mirror was being polished, was a room that was 30 feet long and 15 feet tall and 15 feet wide.
	And it was packed with what's called vacuum tubes.
	And that was the first computer that they'd ever assembled at Caltech.
	And it drew so much electricity, Carrie, that when they turned it on, the lights on campus dimmed.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, I imagine that was incredible.
	So compared to the size of our computers today, I think it's a magnificent testimony to miniaturization, how they can make things smaller.
	Right.
	So are you saying you live near Caltech?
	It appears that you attended Caltech as an undergrad.
	What happened after that?
	Well, I went to work for a company up in Berkeley, California called Upright Inc.
	And I spent 30 years with Wallace Johnson, who was the founder of that company.
	And we had some many interesting adventures in the political arena.
	And that's another story.
	I think that my career Kind of follow the traditional path for my generation.
	This is what you're supposed to do.
	You're supposed to graduate college, go to work for one company, be there 30 years, and then retire and live a happy golden years.
	Well, that didn't happen to me because I retired in 1981 and I got bored.
	So I went to work in another career, spent 20 years in the real estate market in San Francisco.
	And all during this time, I always asked myself, you know, these questions.
	Where did we come from?
	What were UFOs all about?
	I was kind of an oddball at that time.
	People thought I was spooky to be talking about extraterrestrials.
	But that was my mind.
	My mind was constantly questioning.
	And that's where the book came from.
	Okay.
	Now, you've got something about, let's see, Linus Pauling and Richard Feynman.
	Oh, yes.
	While I was at Caltech, I was blessed with two of the most terrific Nobel laureate professors.
	In chemistry, I had Linus Pauling, and he was magnificent.
	And for physics, I was blessed with Richard Feynman, who I believe was the Einstein of my generation.
	The guy was brilliant, absolutely.
	But during the course of encountering them, I was able to have a one-on-one with both of them, and I asked, Dr. Pauling, did you believe in God?
	And he gave me a beautiful answer, which I've published in the book.
	And I asked Richard Feynman if he believed in UFOs, and I remembered his answer, and I quoted him in my book also.
	Okay, well, can you cut to the chase and tell us what he said?
	Well, sure.
	Pauling said that their discipline in the scientific community was to study everything in the universe to explain to us what was going on back to the beginning of the universe, which at that time, and still some people believe today, was called the Big Bang.
	And then he smiled, a twinkle in his eyes, and he said, If you were to ask me what there was a millisecond before the Big Bang, we couldn't tell you.
	We don't know.
	If you want to believe in God, please do, because we don't have the answer for what there was just before the Big Bang.
	And that kind of an answer satisfied me for a while.
	Okay, and what did Richard Feynman say?
	Okay, Feynman was a little younger than Pauling, and a very, very lively, wonderful teacher.
	He could teach Einstein's Theory of Relativity, so he could really understand it.
	An amazing fellow.
	And his answer to me is, when I asked him, very brazenly, I was like 19 years old, I said, Dr. Feynman, do you believe in UFOs?
	And he said, Clarifell, I believe in the law of probability.
	The Milky Way is filled with 400 billion stars, just like our sun.
	And there are over 400 billion galaxies in the universe.
	And he said, the law of probability says that there are 10,000 solar systems exactly like ours.
	Every respect.
	He says, we're the youngest.
	And he said, if any of those other solar systems with a planet like Earth survive their space age, They could have visited us.
	Yes, I believe in UFOs.
	And I quoted that in the book also.
	Oh, wonderful.
	Okay.
	And that was in what year?
	That was 1949.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	So at this point, why don't we, I don't know, what year did you complete writing your book?
	Okay.
	I finally started researching in serious fashion in 2005.
	And I gathered the information, and I had found Zachariah Sitchin's books.
	His books called the Earth Chronicles.
	I don't know if you're familiar with those or not, but most people who are in this paradigm that I'm in have read Sitchin.
	Oh yeah, absolutely.
	And he proposed a paradigm which I thought was very interesting, that we were a genetically engineered species, and that it was all written in these cuneiform tablets that he said he Translated over 2,000 of them.
	So the more I researched, the more it made sense to me.
	So I gathered the information.
	I tell you, one of the things that... I'm a pretty good reader, but trying to plow through everything that Sitchin wrote is a Herculean task.
	He does not write in simple languages.
	He tells the story, but it's hard to keep reading.
	So I said, this story is so interesting that everybody ought to be able to understand it.
	So what I created in my book, Adam the Missing Link, is kind of like a life magazine, Kerry.
	It's got over 145 pictures, colored pictures in it, of the artifacts that kind of support the story of genetic engineering.
	And it's eight and a half by 11.
	It's kind of like a coffee table creation, where people can just pick up any page in there and understand it, because I wrote it in a language that was not scientific.
	It was an explanation of what Sitchin had proposed.
	Okay.
	Now, at the moment, you know, well, you're saying you incorporated a lot of what he posited in your book, but did you investigate it yourself?
	Oh yeah, I did much research.
	I went beyond what Sitchin had proposed in his book.
	In my book, I include Easter Island statues, which he never really explained.
	I found a theory of that.
	I went to the Nazca Lines in Peru and discovered that they were a time capsule.
	I've done a lot of extra research, starting with Fitchin's basic theory that we were created by the Anunnaki over 250,000 years ago.
	These extraterrestrials I gave a written record in the cuneiform tablets, and I explained what the cuneiform tablets are to people in a way I think they can comprehend it, and that it's like finding the Dead Sea Scrolls.
	You know, the Dead Sea Scrolls kind of interpret the Bible, and the cuneiform tablets interpret the Sumerian civilization and the extraterrestrials who created it, and created us.
	But there seems to be a great deal of controversy over the way that Sitchin put his sort of story together and the actual, well, evidence out there.
	Are you aware of that?
	I'm familiar with the controversy, Carrie, and I believe that those who are not willing to accept this premise are entitled to their own theories.
	In fact, the book Adam, the missing link that I put together is kind of, you know, here's the evidence that I found in my research.
	You read the book and you make up your own mind.
	I'm not... Okay, we'll be right back after this short break.
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	I am the fly in the sky, staring at you.
	I can read your mind.
	I am the maker of rules, dealing with fools.
	I can change your life.
	And I don't need to see anymore to know that I can read your mind.
	I can read your mind.
	This is Carrie Cactus, Project Blot, Whistleblower Radio.
	And perhaps I can read your mind.
	Marshall, are you there?
	I am, Carrie.
	Okay, very good.
	So right before the break, you were saying, you know, we were talking about how there's a lot of different opinions out there.
	And you were kind of saying that you started to say something about how you dress that in or dealt with that in your book.
	Yes, my book is the research that I did over a five year period.
	Well, actually, all my life, I thought about it.
	But the the final Crystallization of my thinking about what we really are.
	We're kind of a special species.
	You know, if you look at the evolutionary theory, we appear as a species, Homo sapiens, 250,000 years ago, Kerry.
	And we're walking on the moon.
	Now, that in evolutionary language doesn't really happen.
	Species do not evolve that rapidly.
	And the species just before us was Homo erectus.
	And they've been evolving for a million, 800,000 years.
	And the most advanced they got were stone tools and spears.
	They couldn't talk.
	They didn't have any vocal equipment.
	Now, the missing link, there has to be a chain of evidence of bones and skeletons of the species between us and them.
	And there aren't any.
	Evolutionists have not found how we evolved directly from Homo erectus.
	And the mystery is, How did we appear 250,000 years ago, and why are we outstripping every evolutionary theory they've ever had as far as a species becoming space-age?
	We're actually on the verge of becoming space-age species, and that just doesn't happen in 250,000 years, so there has to be some other answer to it.
	Okay, well, from my point of view, we're taking a darn long time at that, but I appreciate that.
	What I was wondering, if you could put your kind of I'm assuming you have your own spin on this.
	Now, I haven't read your book and so I don't know if you could tell me the essential premise and then we could go from there because I do have quite a bit of background in this area and I'd love to go down this road with you in a lot of different directions.
	Sure, sure.
	Well, I'm a tire kicker.
	I want to have things proved to me in a hard Realistic sense.
	So when I came upon Sitchin's theory, I said, OK, how do you prove realistically that what he's reading in the translations actually happened?
	So I have included in my book 14 major pieces of construction and artifacts that I said, let's examine them.
	First, I started with the pyramids.
	I said, everybody says the pyramids were built by the Egyptians.
	And they were built as tombs for the pharaohs.
	But we know that all the Egyptian temples or burial sites where pharaohs are buried are filled with hieroglyphics and paintings and wall decorations.
	And the pyramids don't have any of those.
	They're completely void.
	And from an engineering point of view, the stones that are used inside, say, the Great Pyramid, are made out of materials like granite.
	Which is very hard to polish and it's very hard to quarry.
	And the Egyptians had only copper and bronze tools.
	So I said, that's a challenge.
	I mean, how could they do this?
	And the other thing I discovered was that those piles of stones were on a foundation that was a mountaintop.
	They had taken a granite mountaintop and leveled it.
	Over acres and acres to a degree of leveling which is scientifically very difficult to do today from an engineering point of view.
	For instance, it's plus or minus half inch in being level.
	So they piled the pyramid stones on top of that.
	Now, to move, to remove all of that granite on the mountaintop was a Herculean task.
	It just boggles my mind to think of the Egyptians with their copper and bronze tools trying to do that.
	So I took that particular group of structures and I said, this maybe was built by an advanced civilization, had to have some higher technology to complete that.
	And then I looked at the cylinder seals.
	Are you familiar with the cylinder seals?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	They're made out of hematite and hematite is a hard stone.
	It's found in most areas.
	And it's harder than steel.
	It has a hardness of six.
	And steel has a hardness of six.
	And the tools that were required to engrave those little tiny one-inch tall polished silver seals with the pictures that they show us, and particularly engraving them in the negative, those tools were not available to the Sumerians.
	They couldn't have done it.
	In my book, some advanced technology was required to produce those beautiful I call them storage information devices, because they've lasted for thousands and thousands of years.
	And when you roll a cylinder seal on wet clay, even today, you get a positive image.
	And to me, as an engineer, I marvel at that technology.
	And to me, I don't think the local folks could have done it.
	Then I went to Stonehenge in England.
	And I looked at those magnificent stones, and I made a great research on that in the book.
	I talk about phase 1, phase 2, phase 3 of Stonehenge.
	Right.
	Phase 1 was just a circle, and there was white clay that came out when you drew a ditch in a 360 degree circle, and there were 56 Stone holes, which were three foot in diameter, and they were white.
	So if you can picture looking down on this circle, which is more than 100 feet across, which was still there, you can still see it, and these 56 stones.
	Now, what were the 56 stones, was my question.
	And I found out that CBS had done, and I report this in my book, a computer analysis of that particular geographic location, Kerry, and the We're having an eclipse tonight of the moon.
	I don't know if you are aware of that.
	Yes, I'm very aware of that.
	In this particular location, the moon eclipses every 19 years, every 19 years, and then every 18 years.
	And if you add up 19, 19, and 18, you get 56.
	So what they did is they took a black stone and they moved it with the phases of the moon on top of these white circles, these 56 holes.
	And by the way, they were discovered by an Englishman named John and they're called the Aubrey Holes, and you end up with an eclipsed computer.
	Actually, the dumb thing predicts every 19 years and every 19 years and every 18 years because the black stone ends up at the heel stone, which is the end of the computer, the marking point, and you can predict eclipses at that particular geographic location using this thing that's been, and you can predict eclipses at that particular geographic location using this thing that's been, Okay.
	I can't imagine, Carrie, that the local folks on this Alsbury Plain were that sophisticated.
	They could have built something like that.
	Thank you.
	Now this is before they put the stones up.
	This is phase one of Stonehenge.
	And I explain that in the book, and then I explain how this group of stones was the first temple, and it was a temple to the sun.
	Moving those stones from where they were quarried And they weighed over 50 tons each.
	Digging holes in a circle and planting them so that the top stones, the lentil stones, in a circular mass were able to level themselves is a project that would challenge today's engineers.
	Because you have to dig the right hole, you have to drag the stone over there, tilt it into the hole, and make sure that it ended up so that the top of it was all level with the rest of them.
	In my book, I give a diagram of that.
	And I said, you know, here's something that you got to look at from an engineering point of view and say, well, how the heck was it built?
	Does that make sense to you, Carrie?
	Absolutely.
	I mean, you know, this is Project Camelot.
	I don't know if you know how much about us, but, you know, we take this all pretty much as for granted that, you know, In the sense that there's no doubt whatsoever that we are genetically engineered.
	The question might be, how many times and by whom?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Let's advance to that.
	Let's advance to that.
	That's fine.
	I haven't found any other documents as voluminous as the cuneiform tablets that describe how we were created.
	I've looked around, I've looked at translations from other authors who have taken the same material.
	For instance, the 11th tablet of the Book of Gilgamesh.
	You're familiar with that, I know.
	Yes.
	The 11th tablet of the Book of Gilgamesh, which is a very fascinating story in itself, and I think it was probably one of these tales that was handed down by word of mouth before it got written.
	And the credit for writing Cuneiform is given to the Sumerian civilization.
	They invented a lot of things which are kind of remarkable for a start-up civilization.
	They come up with the wheel and the writing and philosophy and music and art.
	And they say clearly in their text that everything they had was given to them by this extraterrestrial group that was living with them, cohabitating with them.
	And I said, okay, that makes sense, but what about the other information that's written on these tablets?
	There are over 300,000 of these tablets that have been found, and they're still digging them up.
	Okay.
	In the libraries, the 11th tablet of Gilgamesh tells the story of the Great Flood, of Noah and the Ark, and how civilization wanted to be eliminated, and one of the extraterrestrials said, you know, get rid of them, Their deity.
	Now, these folks have written about the creator of all in their text.
	It said that they had a deity, and that when the deity spoke through telepathic means to them, they obeyed what that said.
	And the story of this tablet is that the survival of Homo sapiens was directly connected to this story, which was the final... There were 12 tablets, but it was the 11th tablet.
	This story predates the Bible, Kerry, by thousands of years.
	Sure.
	It ends up in the Bible as the story of Noah and the Archon.
	There's some changes in it.
	But it's kind of, to me, an interesting artifact because it tells me a lot about what the story was supposed to tell us.
	And my wife and I have written a screenplay based on Gilgamesh.
	And we're going to hopefully one day get it produced and it'll be a remarkable revelation of what that story was all about.
	Well, can you, in sort of a short term way, explain what's your take on that story that might be different than maybe what's out there?
	OK, my take on Gilgamesh was that it was a message to us.
	From an advanced civilization that was here, you know, maybe 400,000 years ago, before there were any humans.
	And they wanted to tell, in a story form, A, you know, how they created us, and B, what our destiny is.
	Now, if you can imagine, after the tsunami, which they claim was caused by the passing of their planet Nubaru, Would be a flood coming up from the south.
	It was not rain.
	It was like maybe a thousand foot tsunami that just rolled over the entire continent on that part of the globe and laid down maybe a hundred feet of mud on everything.
	Destroyed everything except their landing platform at Baalbek, Lebanon, which is another story that I have in the book.
	How did they get those big stones up that hill and lay them end to end without mortar?
	Right.
	But the story of Gilgamesh Was kind of, you know, maybe braggadocio by an advanced species saying, you know, this is what we could do, this is how we did it, and you should know about this when you're capable of understanding more as you mature and evolve.
	So to me, the story of the flood and how, you know, can you imagine 100 feet of mud over everything?
	How are you going to live?
	How are the people that did survive the tsunami going to get food, going to have water, going to have anything?
	They're helpless.
	They're like the little ants.
	And they said that the creator of all said that the destiny of the Anunnaki, which they called themselves because their leader was named Hanu, their destiny was to come to planet Earth and to create Homo sapiens.
	And the destiny of Homo sapiens was to inherit the planet From the Anunnaki and to take care of the planet.
	Now, that couldn't happen unless they were able to survive after the flood.
	So the story is that they brought down food and they brought down animal husbandry and, you know, they domesticated wheat, which we found 9000 year old kernels of domesticated wheat in that region.
	It just kind of fits together to me that that's how people would have survived.
	They couldn't have done it on their own.
	We couldn't have done it on our own.
	Right.
	Do you understand what I'm saying?
	Yes, absolutely.
	So, well, let me ask you this.
	Sure.
	If there are sharp criticisms in what seems to be, you know, because I don't spend a whole lot of time analyzing the criticisms of Sitchin, but my understanding is that People do criticize the idea, I don't know, that he took it literally.
	I guess that might be one criticism.
	The other criticism might be that he took a certain amount of poetic license with some of the material.
	Yeah, people would say that, and I can understand those that, you know, want to try to tear down a theory would do that.
	Now, they're entitled to do that, Carrie, and I think that the more the merrier.
	Because I'd like somebody to prove to me how else we came into being.
	If we were genetically engineered, which you said we were, and they said it, they'd tell us how they did it.
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	Adam, the missing link is the name of the book.
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	Yes, I am, Kerry.
	Okay, great.
	So, right before the break, we were sort of going back over whether or not there were any specific areas, this is really what I wanted to ask you, specific areas where you feel that it's possible that Sitchin went off track at all.
	Well, you know, there were things that he wrote about that were intriguing to me.
	For instance, Three megalithic stones that exist today at Baalbek, Lebanon.
	Are you familiar with them?
	Hello?
	Carrie, are you there?
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	I just had a slight disconnection right there.
	Go ahead.
	I'm confronted with things that he wrote about, which I doubt.
	In fact, I'll tell you a little secret, Carrie.
	I researched the book to disprove Sitchin.
	That was my initial I'm a tire kicker.
	I wanted to make sure that what this guy was saying had some validity or it didn't.
	The more I researched and the more I examined what he was saying and the things that I found on the planet Earth, these 14 things that are in my book, I said, you know, there's got to be some other explanation.
	If there is one, I haven't found it yet.
	Have you?
	Well, we have multiple people coming to us with information about the genetic engineering of man, and that, you know, it depends where you want to go with it, but there's no doubt that the Anunnaki played a role, and very possibly a key role, and there's also the idea that they may be returning at some point.
	How do you feel about that?
	I mean, this planet that appears to have been captured into our solar system, and they called it Nibiru, they talk quite frequently about it in their writings, and it's supposed to be in a 3600 year orbit around our sun, like the comets.
	The comets have big, long, elliptical orbits, the same as their planet.
	And the last calculation that I've made notes that it's 3600 years that it comes around.
	The Greeks wrote about it, they called it Nemesis, The Babylonians wrote about it, the Hebrews wrote about it, the Arcadians wrote about it.
	Everybody in history has some explanation in their writings about this phenomenon that hits in the sky.
	The Greeks called it Nemesis because it caused volcanic eruptions and great disturbances on our planet as it came in close.
	It's a larger body than Mars, apparently.
	Large bodies have gravitational effects on everything, particularly if they come in between, say, Jupiter and Mars.
	Okay, so if the flood was caused by the last approach of Nibiru, or one of the approaches of Nibiru, it melted the, I mean, the ice shelf in the Antarctic was loosened by heating of the planet, and it slid into the South Atlantic Ocean and caused a tsunami, and that was about
	11,500 or 12,000 years ago, you can easily subtract 3,600 from that point, and you come up with the last pass that appears to have happened on that calculation is zero, which is the Star of Bethlehem.
	You know, nobody's really explained what the Star of Bethlehem was at the time of the birth of Christ.
	Now, there have been astronomical guesstimations of it, but to me, It could easily have been this planet coming through.
	And if that's the case, then the next appearance is going to be 3,600 years from zero.
	Subtract 2011, you get about, you know, maybe 1,500, 1,600 years in the future.
	Now, there's some speculation that this comet called Elon, I think.
	Elenin.
	Elenin.
	Thank you.
	I've done some research on that, too, because I suspect that people are saying that that might be the return.
	I don't think Sitchin really knew when the return was going to be.
	He wrote about it, and my conversations with him, which covered, by the way, ten years.
	I was in contact constantly and met with him on several occasions.
	Oh, you were?
	Okay, very interesting.
	I considered him a friend of mine because he was my mentor.
	He was the guy I bounced all my crazy ideas off of.
	I see.
	Well, let me ask you this.
	Did he tell you that he was channeling, he felt he was channeling Enki?
	No, he never revealed that to me.
	And I never asked him about that.
	You know, my thing was, I'd written a book based on his theory, and I asked him if he'd mind it if I did that, and he said, no, go right ahead.
	Whatever you want to do, you do.
	And as I got to some of the places where I got stuck, Carrie, you know, where I really was at a hard place, I'd call him up and I'd say, can you explain this to me from your point of view?
	And he was delightful.
	He wrote me letters explaining things, and he talked to me on the phone explaining things, and I finally came to the realization that the guy was sincere about what he was doing and that he put his best effort forward to provide his translations in the books that he wrote.
	Well, yeah, absolutely.
	Well, okay.
	Now, as far as Nibiru is concerned, there is a lot of different information out there.
	And one of the people that, of course, I'm having, I guess perhaps you know I'm having this, well, maybe you don't know, I'm having a video conference in about a week and a half that will include several people.
	Yes, I've read about that, Terry, and I think it's a marvelous thing you're doing because those are some of the leading people that you've gathered together together To create a new kind of conference.
	Most people have to fly to conferences to be involved in them.
	And I've done that on several occasions myself.
	Yes, absolutely.
	And in this case, I'd like to share a little bit of Hoagland's theories with you.
	I'm not sure if you're familiar with what he's saying about LNN at this time.
	Yes, I am.
	I've read his stuff.
	I think it's interesting what he's proposing.
	Do you know that he's proposing that Elenin, first of all, it is not Nibiru.
	It is a piloted craft and that it's come here.
	That Leonid Elenin is a code name for Horus, which is the return of Horus, which is, you know, one of the sons of Enlil.
	Well, I don't know if it's Enlil.
	I guess it's Enlil.
	Perhaps.
	Marduk is another name for him, I think.
	Yeah, yeah.
	My research is with NASA.
	I went to NASA to find out they're tracking it and they think it's a comet.
	Now, Hoagland can, you know, speculate on it not being anything like a comet.
	It could be hidden inside there.
	There could be, you know, a spaceship of sorts.
	But, you know, I have no proof of that, so it might... Sure.
	My, uh... Like I say, I'm a tired kicker, Carrie, and I'd like to see the evidence that this is really what he's saying it is.
	And I think it's fascinating to me that there's somebody out there saying what this thing is.
	The thing that I read from NASA was that it was a comet and that its approach to Earth was going to be 21 million miles.
	And it will occur on October the 16th.
	Right.
	Yes.
	Pardon?
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry to interrupt you there.
	Yes, that's the party line that NASA is.
	I mean, on the JPL website.
	And I've got that on my, that linked on my blog as well.
	Right.
	The trouble is, is that, you know, well, again, I don't know how familiar you are with our work, but we interview whistleblowers and get that kind of testimony.
	From what we consider to be the Black Projects and Secret Space Program, etc.
	I'm into that myself, Carrie.
	I'm coming out with a white paper soon, which will whistle blow some of the things that we can talk about at another time.
	Oh, lovely.
	Well, yeah, I'd be very interested.
	But at any rate, the question is, is that, first of all, that there's more than one thing happening.
	So, if there is a return of, whether it be what Andy Lloyd thinks, which is a brown dwarf, which has that kind of an orbit, It's sort of an elliptical orbit that would be what people usually attribute to Nibiru or Nemesis.
	But Nibiru or Nemesis is actually rotating around a brown dwarf that then comes in almost as a mini solar system through our solar system.
	Absolutely.
	I'm open to all that stuff, Gary, because I'm curious.
	I've got a very curious mind.
	I might not be as young as these guys.
	In fact, I'm a lot older than most of them, but I'm still there wanting to know what's happening, what's going on.
	Okay, what I want to know is if you've got any contacts in, whether it be NASA, because if you used to be affiliated with Caltech, etc., have you maintained any of your contacts in that area?
	Yeah.
	In fact, I was in touch with Carl Sagan when he was alive.
	Were you?
	I had some interesting conversations with him and I was curious about this three-dimensional star map that he put on the Pioneer satellites that he sent out there.
	You're familiar with the Pioneer Well, I mean, I've heard of it.
	What do you mean by the three-dimensional star map?
	Okay.
	On the plaque of both Voyager 1 and 2, which is the golden record that they created, he and Frank, There is this interesting map, and some of the guys, like Hawking, said, why the hell did you put that map on there?
	Why do you want to tell them where we are?
	You know, it's like 14 pulsars.
	Okay, it's very interesting.
	We're going to be right back after the top of this hour with Marshall Klarfeld.
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	Marshall?
	Yes, I'm here.
	Okay.
	We were talking about this three-dimensional star map.
	Sorry, you were interrupted and could you please continue your story about the star map?
	For instance, Carrie, on page 9 of my book I've reproduced the Golden Record and the Pioneer 10 and 11 plaque that Carl and his wife put together now.
	On this plaque that's on Pioneer 10 and 11, which by the way have left our solar system already, Voyager 1 and 2 Are now leaving our solar system and going out into deep space.
	And if any extraterrestrial life finds these two or four objects, they will have a roadmap to where we are.
	Because they put on this celestial three dimensional star map, which is made up of the 14 pulsars in our system.
	And it shows exactly where we are.
	And as I say, there was great criticism at the time this came out, not only because his wife, Portrayed male and female in the nude, which was very embarrassing.
	But they said, why the hell do you want to tell them where we are?
	They might not be friendly.
	That's what Hawking said.
	Well, I found on the Nazca Plain, away from the biomorphs and the lines that everybody looks at, down in the north section of it, there are drawings in the sand of the Nazca Plain, very similar Three-dimensional star maps of where they came from.
	This is very interesting to me because I don't know where Sagan and Frank got their idea of doing that, but here it is on the Nazca Plain.
	Exactly the same three-dimensional star map, but it's up in Sirius.
	It shows, you know, the three planets or three stars that make up the belt of Orion.
	Uh-huh.
	And I reproduce all this in my book, Carrie.
	If anybody's curious, they can go to page 8 and 9 in the book and see this.
	Wonderful.
	It's kind of the evidence that an engineer would dig up and put together.
	And by the way, cylinder seal VA243 is a picture of the Anunnaki done in interesting fashion.
	And up in the left-hand corner, of this cylinder seal is a complete replication of our solar system to scale.
	And I was totally blown away by the fact that the engravers, whoever produced those cylinder seals, could do that in such miniaturization.
	You know, the size of it is very, very small.
	But the fact that they have left us like our pioneer plaque in our Golden Record, which our scientists have sent out in space to show where we are, what we look like, and where we came from.
	Here is a cylinder seal that shows who they are, what they look like, and all the planets that we would eventually find out about.
	Nobody 6,000 years ago knew there were 10, 11 planets in our solar system.
	I find that very interesting.
	Absolutely.
	I'm sorry, there's so many different directions to go here and I've also got people, we are here for one more hour and we've got people asking questions as well and I do want to take those questions as we go.
	By the way, you should tell them, Carrie, where they can find part of my book.
	I've got a web page.
	Sure.
	Well, I have linked your web page and it's been linked up on my website for almost a week now, prior to this radio show, which is customary as the way I do it, which is on our front page as well as on my whistleblower radio page.
	On that page, they can look inside the book.
	There's a little tab below.
	I want to tell people if they go to the web page, there's a little tab below the picture of the front of the book and you can open the book up and see eight or nine pages in there.
	That's right, and I've been doing that as we speak here.
	Well, I have a few different questions and then I also want to be able to ask some of the questions that some people are asking.
	Absolutely.
	First of all, to get back to Gilgamesh, just to kind of wrap that up a bit, there's a lot, there's a mention of Cedar and I wonder if you're familiar with what Cedar is really sort of symbolizes and is capable of?
	You have to explain that to me.
	Peter?
	Cedar.
	The Cedar Forest.
	Oh, the Cedar Forest.
	Yeah, right.
	That's Lebanon.
	Yes.
	But are you familiar with the power in cedar?
	According to my research and what I divine from Sitchin's translations was that they couldn't handle the heat on our planet because they came from a planet that went so far away from our sun that they lived cocooned in their atmosphere.
	And the story was that they blew a hole in their atmosphere like the ozone hole.
	And they were losing it, and they were going to lose all their life because they had to close the ozone hole.
	And gold was the only thing they could figure out to put little flakes of it up there to close it.
	So they didn't have much gold on their planet.
	They did a survey of our solar system, and they found that Earth had most of the gold.
	So that's why they came here, to get the gold to save their planet.
	Well, yes, and I have whistleblowers that are saying they're still coming here for that.
	Now, but to get back to the cedar, again, the cedar, my understanding is that cedar has special powers.
	Yes.
	I'll go along with that, but the reason I think they built their landing platform in the cedar forest was because it was cooler, it was up in the mountains, and those cedar trees were very helpful to them, but they took those stones, if you look at the Baalbek stones, These suckers are 64 feet long, they're 10 feet wide, and they're 14 foot tall, and they weigh over 1,200 tons.
	Yeah, they're incredible.
	I read down about it.
	They were quarried from a quarry that was half a mile away from where they used them.
	They lifted them out of the quarry, the left one in the quarry, and they put them up on this platform, 36 feet in the air, end-to-end without any mortar.
	I'll tell you something, Carrie, that challenges our technology today to lift.
	1,200 tons is like three fully loaded 747s stacked on top of each other.
	Yeah, that's incredible to me as an engineer.
	Are you familiar with the work of Michael Tellinger?
	Oh, sure.
	Okay, so you also know, no doubt, of the idea that they were able to, the Egyptians were moving stones using sound technology.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Sound and water, very likely.
	Well, I think that, you know, In my speculation, now this is a mere speculation from a Caltech engineer, that they had tractor beams.
	And they were able to, like in Star Trek, lift momentous heavy things up in the air and place them wherever they wanted to.
	And that kind of goes together with what Michael was saying.
	You know, he said the Egyptians had it, but I think the Egyptians... I've got a new theory coming out that... Are you familiar with branding?
	Well, I'm not sure how you're using that.
	Okay, I think they branded everything they did to say this was ours, this is what we did.
	And for instance, the temple in Egypt that has the picture up in the ceiling of the flying helicopter and the spaceships, that was a brand.
	They put that there to say this was ours, we did this.
	Okay, that's fair enough.
	I mean, it's completely believable to me, I have to say.
	And on the Nazca Plain, everything, every biomorph I've looked at there is native to the Peruvian slopes, except for the spider.
	The spider is their brand that says, we knew about this spider, which lives 900 miles away in the Amazon jungle, and the thing is so small you need a microscope to see it.
	But they placed it in with the biomorphs from And they figured that we would only see this when we learned how to fly, because you can see them much better from the air than you can from the ground.
	Absolutely.
	So these are things that fascinate me.
	Well, no doubt about it.
	Now, your background is really as an engineer, you seem to say.
	Yeah.
	Can you be a little more specific in that regard?
	I mean, what did you do as an engineer?
	Well, I went four years to Caltech, and I started out as a physicist.
	And I ended up a mechanical engineer.
	And what they taught you at Caltech, I don't know if they still do it today, is the theory of everything.
	They never taught you anything practical.
	They just taught you the theory of how things work.
	So I was schooled for four years on how to find information that makes things make sense.
	You don't believe anything until you have a theory that proves it.
	So that's my background from Caltech, and I've gone through all of my life asking questions, how does that work?
	So anything I look at, I say, you know, what makes that work?
	And I have to get the answers to that.
	So this was a question about where we came from, is how did that happen?
	Because I know from my research, evolution takes millions of years for things to change a little bit.
	Right.
	Here we are, a jump from Homo erectus, which was a creature that couldn't speak, Had a third the brain size of us and advanced for 1,800,000 years, and their toolmaking only got to spears and stones.
	250,000 years ago, we appear on Southeast Africa, where the DNA has been traced to Eve, coming from that same location.
	A new species was just kind of popped up, you know, and you said genetic engineering.
	Well, I think everybody who's done serious research And looked at our human genome and seen the 223 alien genes that are in there.
	That explains to me how we were created.
	And it makes sense to me that an advanced technical species that genetically engineered us, that makes sense.
	Okay.
	Let me ask you if you believe that Enki and Enlil are still alive today, and whether or not you think that that sort of rivalry that goes on between them is realistic.
	Oh yes, absolutely.
	In fact, the son of Enki is Marduk.
	Marduk is the author of the Islamic faith, I think.
	I mean, I could go into this in detail with you, because I've done tons of research on it, Always want to know, you know, how these two operatives... In fact, if you look at the 6,000 years of worship of the 12 deities, from the Sumerians to the Romans, you have these two chief gods.
	The chief god of the Greeks was Zeus, and his brother was Poseidon, who was the water god.
	That was Enki and Enlil.
	And you go into the Romans, it was Jupiter and Neptune.
	Two brothers, and the Jupiter was his commander, and Neptune was his brother, and the Water God.
	So that's Enki and Envo.
	Right.
	So I think they're still, you know, viable entities that, um, they may have phased off the planet in, you know, several thousand years ago.
	But I think they could come back, and I think they still probably are clans that are warring with each other.
	And if you look at this, uh, kind of interesting curiosity, Kerry, If we share their DNA, if all the people on the planet Earth share the DNA of this advanced species, there were two things they were pretty good at.
	It was making war and sex.
	And I look at us as a species and I say, hey, that's what we're good at, too.
	We do war and we do a lot of sex.
	Okay, well, no doubt about that.
	Now, I have someone who asks a question here, which is an interesting one.
	They want to know if you believe the Anunnaki are from Nibiru or if you know if all the best info that points to them being from Sirius.
	And my understanding is also there is a hybrid race called Sirian Anunnaki.
	So does that, are you familiar with any of that?
	Yes, I've done a lot of research on, you know, they weren't the only advanced civilization that found us.
	They found us, for their reason, gold.
	But in my research, I've come to the... Our planet is the Goldilocks planet.
	And this particular is the sun that we have in our solar system.
	And if you look at what we're going to do when we go out into space, we're going to look for Earth, too.
	And we're going to look for the Goldilocks planet that will provide us with air and water and all the things necessary to support our life form.
	We're like a 7-Eleven, Terry.
	Everybody stops in here.
	There's evidence that there's been... It's beginning to look that way, no doubt about it.
	Well, and many of them also contributed, apparently.
	I said they also contributed their genes.
	I think that the Chinese have evidence of a different celestial party that came down, and so do the Africans.
	The group that has encountered extraterrestrials has had evidence of a different kind.
	Now, I think that the over 300,000 cuneiform tablets that the British Museum has 120,000 of, but that exist in our documentation files.
	It's like a library.
	You go to the Library of Alexander to study what everybody knew.
	Well, these libraries that were found in Iraq, Rich Kings had collected the tablet forms.
	Tell the story of that particular extraterrestrial species, the Anunnaki.
	Their story, to me, is kind of a guideline to the Anunnaki visitation on the planet Earth.
	We have a record that if you want to believe it, you're entitled to do that.
	In my book, I make it pretty evident that what I've gathered in the book is of that particular extraterrestrial species alone.
	I do not refer to them in my book to any other extraterrestrial visitations because I figure that complicates things.
	You need to understand that these are not the only contributors to our particular life form.
	Okay, but to get back to the question a little bit more specifically, in terms of the Syrian Anunnaki, in other words, there's also talk about, for example, in Gilgamesh, the Scorpion King, and we're talking about what sounds to me maybe even of a reptilian hybrid that's being talked about there.
	So is this anything that you What I came to, in my belief, from all the stuff that I've researched, and believe me, I couldn't have done it without the internet, Carrie, because the internet will take you anyplace.
	But I think that they were a free-floating planet that was expelled from another solar system, which could have been in Sirius, and they were captured into our solar system by Neptune's gravitational field.
	Anouma Elish, if you've read the translation of Anouma Elish, the Seven Tablets of Creation, that they left us.
	That's what they say happened, that they came in clockwise, that all the other things in our solar system go around the sun counterclockwise.
	But they came in clockwise and the first encounter, you know, as described by Sitchin in his Cosmology of Anouma Elish, his explanation of that, says there was a collision and everything that Now the asteroid belt was the result of that collision.
	If you look at the Pacific Ocean, it's a hole in our planet.
	We'll be right back and continue this.
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	Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we're talking to Marshall Klarfeld about his book, Adam the Missing Link.
	Marshall?
	Yes.
	Okay, so the last question was really about, well, to just drill it down simply into the Syrian Anunnaki and the idea that that might be a hybrid race.
	Did you follow that out at all?
	The connection that you're talking about is that the three stars of the Belt of Orion are where Sirius is.
	Sirius is not too far in that constellation from the Belt.
	The pyramids in Egypt are placed exactly in that same configuration as the Belt of Orion.
	So they branded, they left their mark where they came from.
	And on the sands of the Nazca Plain, they left the Three-dimensional star map showing where they came from.
	So Sirius is part of the Anunnaki culture, I believe, and if they came out of an explosion, if their planet was released from that part of the universe and it drifted and was captured into our solar system in our galaxy, the Milky Way, it's very possible that the connection that you're talking about makes sense.
	Okay, yeah.
	Let's see.
	What I'm doing here is I'm scanning.
	We have a chat room in which people can ask questions.
	The radio station themselves also have a board in which people can call in.
	We're about to go into our last half hour so I do want to open up the phone lines here for people that are interested in calling in and feel free to do it that way.
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	Okay.
	In the meantime, do you want to talk, now I wonder if, not sure if I can remember his name, but yeah, I'll have to ask you that question.
	Oh, Anton Parks.
	Do you know who he is?
	Yes.
	Okay, did you ever read, well the English, I assume you don't read French, do you?
	No.
	Okay, so you read the translations put out there?
	Yeah.
	Okay, and what did you think about that in regard to the Anunnaki?
	Well, I think that's a very interesting interpretation.
	You know, I can only see from research what But physically I can put together.
	I have to connect things, Kerry.
	In other words, my book is filled with 14 major structures that remain on planet Earth from some advanced species.
	Had to do it.
	I cannot buy the fact that the anthropologists and the archaeologists claim that the local tribes did this.
	It just doesn't make any sense to me.
	So who they were, where they came from, the evidence is In the cuneiform tablets for me, if I find other evidence, I'm going to write another book.
	I will certainly gather it together and let people make up their own mind.
	My job is to be a reporter.
	I'm a scientific researcher who reports what I find, and I don't, you know, endorse theories.
	I don't push people into believing this is true or that's true.
	I say, look, this is what I found, and I put it in my book, and I give credit to the people that helped.
	And you make up your own mind.
	Let me ask you this.
	You talked to Sitchin, I assume, prior to his death.
	Did he confide anything, maybe, to you that has not been put out in the public domain that you might share?
	Yeah.
	One day I had this idea that came from my study of other histories, that the victors always write the stories, books, and the history.
	The Anunnaki was certainly the dominant victor here on this planet.
	The stories they tell us, they may have made them up.
	They may not be the truth.
	For instance, the reason they came here was for gold to close up the hole in their ozone.
	Maybe they had another use for gold.
	Maybe they were subatomic, using it to prolong their lives.
	And I said to Sitchin, what about the story about the mutiny?
	You know, the reason they created us Was because they claimed there was a mutiny in their mines and mine shafts and they couldn't get the gold out with their people, so they had to create a primitive worker.
	That's what we were.
	And I said, is it possible they made up that story?
	Guess what he answered?
	He says, the record speaks for itself.
	And that was the way he was.
	He was a very abrupt, quiet person.
	He answered yes or no.
	I think George Norrie had a hell of a time with him on Post-it Post.
	He just didn't... He said, read my books.
	That was his answer.
	Read my books.
	So I wasn't satisfied with that, but, you know, my mind wandered in many directions.
	And I know that all the Egyptian pharaohs who wrote on their obelisks the story of their great victories told the story that they wanted people to understand.
	And that's always true in history.
	You've got to kind of temper the stories that they left us.
	Gilgamesh and the cylinder seals and, you know, the story of the gold and the story of the creation of Adam.
	That could have been for their own purposes, not what they wanted us to believe by telling us that it was for this and that reason.
	I question those things.
	Okay.
	What about Arthur C. Clarke?
	Did you know him?
	No.
	Okay.
	Have you ever talked with Hoagland?
	No, I haven't.
	I'd love to.
	Okay.
	He's a fascinating fellow and he's been on Coast to Coast a lot of times too.
	Oh, well, he's going to be on tonight.
	I'll just tell everyone listening.
	And he's going to be talking about Elenin.
	So I encourage everyone to tune in.
	And that will be a precursor to my video conference on 24th of June, Friday, at around 1pm in the afternoon, it's looking like so that we can include the Europeans in it.
	And so that that should be a lot of fun.
	But at any rate, Can you tell me, in terms of your investigations, was there a particular area that you came across that perhaps you had a certain point of view and then your investigations revealed something completely else?
	Yeah, that happened all the time.
	Okay.
	I'm a skeptic at heart, Carrie.
	I mean, I came from a background, like I told you, I'm a tire kicker.
	Right.
	I've got to find answers that are truthful.
	And to find the truth, you have to dig up a lot of stuff.
	And the translations that the folks made from the cuneiform tablets are the victors.
	They're writing the story they want us to know.
	They put down the lines in the Nazca Plain.
	They wanted us to know that.
	They built the temples and they put their brand on it because they want us to know that they had helicopters and spaceships.
	Sure.
	Everything is kind of like, you know, one-sided.
	So you've got to kind of think outside the box.
	And Sitchin and I got along famously because he could understand where I was coming from and he was just beautiful.
	His answers I accepted because he wasn't going to vary from his line.
	His line was what he wrote in his books.
	OK.
	Well, at the moment, if you look at... I mean, in essence, why... I sort of get the idea that you felt that there needed to be another explanation out there because Sitchin was kind of hard going to get through the story.
	He was hard to read, too.
	If you've tried to read any of his books, Carrie... I have.
	They're very scientific and, you know, he was a Hebrew scholar and he thought in different ways.
	Mine is a Life Magazine book.
	In other words, it's got pictures in it and it's got short explanations for what I think those pictures tell us.
	Right.
	But it's not a book that tells you in one direction or another.
	It's just a book for you to educate yourself on what I found and the theories that weren't Sitchin's theories, the Easter Island thing and the time capsule of the Nazca Lines.
	These are all my explanations.
	And the branding is an explanation that I unfortunately never had a chance to Ask Zachariah about that because he was gone when I finally discovered it.
	Okay.
	What about the idea about Atlantis?
	Oh, good.
	Atlantis.
	I did a YouTube.
	I've got a YouTube page where I've done a YouTube on Atlantis.
	I've done it on the Anunnaki and all of the things that are in my book.
	I've got about 12 or 14 YouTubes.
	And Atlantis was one that I was fascinated with because Plato said it was Poseidon.
	Well, guess who Poseidon was?
	It was Enki.
	Right.
	And Enki was a water engineer.
	He built the first settlement at Eridu, which is when they came out of the Persian Gulf, they claimed that, you know, they made their home away from home.
	And he was hydraulically draining the swamps there to make it possible to build their first home here.
	And Eridu translates into home in the far away.
	Well, Atlantis It was a fascinating thing, and I did a whole story on that, taking Solon's story.
	It's a third-person translation.
	Solon got it from the Egyptian priests.
	Solon told it to Plato, and then Plato wrote about it.
	That's all we know.
	So I took everything that was in there, and I pieced it together in my YouTube, where I showed how the They did things in two directions.
	They always did it for themselves, which Atlantis was a home, because he was kicked out of Eden by Enlil in a funny way.
	But he wanted to be as elegant as the stuff they had in Eden, so he built Atlantis in the Atlantic on the outside of the gates of Hercules, which was Gibraltar.
	I even think I found the place where it was on the map because I drew a line from Easter Island to the Nazca Plain to Cairo and you connect that line and on that line is Atlantis.
	In my YouTube I show a globe of that.
	Have you heard about the evidence for Atlantis in Malta?
	Where?
	Malta.
	I'm having trouble with the... Okay, Malta.
	Have you heard about the evidence for Atlantis that has been found in Malta?
	Oh, well that's inside the Mediterranean, right?
	Uh, no, I think it's outside of the Mediterranean.
	Do you spell it M-A-L-T-A?
	Yes.
	Malta, yeah, well it's in the Mediterranean.
	Okay.
	Okay, so anyway, lots of theories about it, but to me, He wanted to make a magnificent home for himself, and the inner of the five islands was his castle, where he built walls that reflected.
	And the reason these things reflected, there were beacons.
	There was no infrastructure on the planet Earth for their in-and-out transports.
	Their spaceships coming in and out needed omnis for navigational reasons.
	And you look in my book, and I show how that worked.
	And that Easter Island was 12 hours away from the white pyramids.
	When the pyramids were built, they were encased with white casing stones, and they reflected to the horizon the sun's light.
	But when it went dark, Easter Island lit up.
	The coral eyes of the statues reflected light up to the spaceships so that they had another navigational beacon there.
	And in the book, I also explain how they kept fighting the landing platform at Baalbek.
	Even though they had highly advanced technology, They still needed to do what we do with our space program is to guide these things in.
	They had to come in through the atmosphere and go into orbit around the globe and the equator and then find their landing platform.
	Okay.
	That's all explained in the book.
	But the beings on Easter Island do not resemble the Anunnaki.
	We don't think so.
	No.
	They have big ears, they have big noses, and they have beards.
	Those are three distinguishing features that I see on the cylinder seals are what they look like.
	Well, yeah, they look human.
	The Easter Island statues don't look human at all to me.
	Well, if you want to, you know, buy into the story that the locals did this, in my book, I show that the statues were placed upon platforms that were cyclopean walls.
	And the building of cyclopean walls, which was one of the things they did very well, was technology that wasn't available to the Easter Island folk.
	Well, no, actually, I think that Easter Island was a different group of ETs.
	That's all.
	Oh, OK.
	OK.
	You're entitled to think that.
	I mean, sure.
	You know, it just has to do with not only the vibe that I get, but also the look of the of the statues, just don't strike me as being the same race.
	Now in terms of what you might have kind of put into your book that is maybe tantalizingly unique, And I see that you've cross-correlated a lot of information all in one place, which is going to be very, very helpful to a lot of people.
	But is there any kind of maybe your own personal stamp on any particular area of research that you feel that you might have contributed?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I think the lines on the planet that connected these artifacts were connecting navigational lines.
	They could be seen from way up in 10,000 feet above the earth.
	The pyramids were the first ones that were magnificent reflecting surfaces that helped them.
	If you draw a line from the two pyramids in Egypt to the twin peaks that snowcapped all year round at Mount Ararat, that was one line that crossed through Baalbek.
	They didn't have a cross line.
	To make a navigational pinpoint landing.
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	Okay, this is Carrie Cassidy, Project Camelot, Whistleblower Radio, and we are talking to Marshall Klarfeld.
	Marshall, so you were just talking about these points that are connected, that have to do with, I guess, spacecraft being able to find their landing spot.
	If you take Newgrange in Ireland, which has a reflective surface, and also Stonehenge, which had the chalk circle, and you draw a line through that through Carnac, with the stones at Carnac, it crosses at Baalbek.
	The line, north-south line, was from the pyramids to the Mount Ararat, and from Newgrange through Carnac.
	That's one thing.
	The second thing is the pyramids I discovered we're not straight sides.
	The sides are indented a little bit.
	And Sir Isaac Newton discovered that the indent was equal to the radius of the Earth.
	That was information that was left to us.
	So I said, well, what about the pyramids in Mesoamerica?
	I've got a picture on the book in my library of Chichen Itza.
	And the sides are indented the same amount.
	You don't see it except from the air.
	But this was kind of a brand that they left.
	You didn't have to indent the sides.
	You could have built it straight.
	Do you understand what I'm saying?
	Well, there's no doubt.
	Actually, I don't know if you know Bill Brown from Giza Geomatrix.
	I interviewed them many times, and he was just talking recently on my interview about that very thing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And that it's a reflective surface, and it can send energy out, is my understanding.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, there's many things that amaze me about the structures that are on the earth that you can go up to and you can touch and feel them and kick them.
	And I think they have to tell their story.
	And if you put it all together, like the book that I published, Adam the Missing Link, you kind of connect the dots.
	On one of my pages I take and I make a line connection which connects all of these artifacts together, particularly the Cyclopean walls.
	Which I believe were manufactured.
	Those were not real stones.
	They manufactured those stones.
	And the reason I suspect that is a lot of them have these little protrusions on them.
	And if you do injection molding, the way I used to do it, you chop those off.
	But they left them.
	Why would they leave them?
	Or why would the Inca Indians, who people claim did that, remove all that stone and leave those little protrusions there?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Okay, so why would they?
	Pardon?
	So why would they?
	Well, to show us, later on when we figured it out, that these stones weren't sculptured and placed in place, they were manufactured stones that were molded in place.
	That's my theory.
	To look at all of the magnificent, except for Baalbek stones, they have protrusions.
	In Peru and, you know, down in the You look at close-up pictures of the walls that are cyclopean, and they all have these little protrusions on them.
	Okay, very interesting.
	Well, now, people are asking all kinds of questions here.
	So, one thing, you are talking about lines.
	Are you talking also basically about the ley lines of the earth and the grid lines and so on?
	Are you familiar with that?
	Yes.
	So do you think that the lines that you're indicating are the same lines, or do you think that they're different?
	Well, they were for their purposes.
	You know, everything they dealt with was to give us information and use it themselves for what they needed to do.
	And if it coincided with the lines that you're talking about, fine.
	That was an extra benefit.
	But most of the things were from the air, and if you look at our space program, when we bring home a shuttlecraft, We've got all kinds of people all over the planet that help guide these guys in.
	Yeah, well, very likely.
	That did not exist thousands of years ago.
	The planet was bare of all kinds of omni-beacons, they call them omni-beacons in the aviation industry, that guide pilots around.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	No, I haven't.
	This is the first I've heard of anyone referring to that notion.
	I think it's a very interesting one.
	You asked me what was my take on things.
	Right.
	Your contribution.
	Scientific approach to doing a problem which was necessary to bring in spaceships and land them on a planet that had no infrastructure.
	They built an infrastructure.
	They also built in other things in it.
	But part of what they did was for their own uses.
	Okay, now I've got someone asking, you know, some of these questions are not so great.
	What about the notion of sacred geometry?
	Have you worked that into some of your theories?
	Well, I see it, but I don't Really co-related, Carrie, because I'm still, you know, I'm a super senior.
	I come from another generation.
	My daughter is a beautiful person.
	She's 45 years old.
	She lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and she's into paranormal and all of this stuff.
	She tells me about it.
	I get educated, but I didn't grow up that way.
	OK, well, you sound pretty open minded anyway.
	I am.
	She's taught me many things.
	She's a hypnotherapist, and I didn't believe in that until she cured me of my post-nasal drip, which I thought was great!
	Okay, so in the end, what is your next book going to be about?
	Where are you going with all of this?
	Okay, my next book will be an update of Adam, which will be kind of like a sequel, which All the information I've learned since I published Adam.
	But I'm also doing another thing.
	You talk about whistleblowing.
	My white paper is my project right now and how to end the war in Afghanistan with honor and so forth.
	I was involved in the 60s in the Vietnam War on a very, very powerful way to end that war and get us out of there with honor.
	And I think the same thing could work in getting our government out of all the wars we're in.
	So that's my project right now, and I'm more interested in doing that than, you know, adding to my book at the moment.
	That's the way I work.
	Okay, but, uh, well, I mean, we could go have quite a discussion about that.
	Can you blow on the whistle on the U.S.
	Army, the White House, and Dr. Henry Kissinger?
	Say that again?
	I say this white paper will blow the whistle on the U.S.
	Army, the Lyndon Johnson White House, And Dr. Henry Kissinger.
	I've uncovered stuff that really needs to be told.
	It's old, it's 45 years old, but it applies today and I just want to get it out there because I've got to get it off my chest.
	All right.
	Well, good for you.
	Now, we've got about 10 minutes left and I'm still looking for good questions here.
	And I'm not seeing any right off the bat that relate to your work.
	You know, people have questions, but they're not actually pertaining to your work necessarily.
	Well, I'm open to trying to, you know, add to their... I mean, I help people who... I've got some young kids, youngsters in school that are really struggling with what's being taught in their classrooms on evolution, and now there's another group
	Industrial, I mean, the ID people, which is creationism, and there's a big battle going on in the school educational system whether they should teach creationism at all, or just teach evolution.
	And I'm saying you should teach three things.
	You should teach creationism, evolution, and genetic engineering.
	Because they are all part of the picture, and I'm really desperately trying to get a textbook out there Which will help people understand that there's another theory.
	Actually, the evolutionists were half right, and I think the creationists might be half wrong.
	But genetic engineering ties it together.
	There is a deity involved in it, and it does make an explanation that I think kids would resonate to.
	So that's another project I have.
	I was heavily involved in the Kansas City debate when they were trying to decide what to teach in their schools.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Someone here is asking if you thought the flood really happened.
	I mean, you kind of addressed that already.
	Well, I think every civilization that we've uncovered, Carrie, has a flood story.
	Yeah, it happened.
	And how it happened is the question.
	You know, the Bible says it happened by rain.
	My best guess is it was caused by a tsunami.
	The ice shelf.
	You know, we have maps of Antarctica with no snow on it.
	No ice cap.
	Where'd they come from?
	So it makes sense that if a huge amount of glaciers slid into the South Atlantic Ocean, we'd cause a tremendous tsunami which would go north and that the picture that they gave us of the arc was submersible.
	It's a submarine.
	And a submarine can survive in a tsunami where an arc on top of the water could not.
	So why was that picture given to us on that Egyptian temple?
	Which is, again, the brand theory that I have.
	OK.
	The helicopters and the submarine.
	What about the idea of the labyrinth?
	Have you heard about the labyrinth?
	Yeah.
	I believe that because they needed to get where it was cool.
	They really couldn't handle the heat, particularly around the equator.
	So I think we're eventually going to uncover Underground tunnels under Egyptian pyramids and you know cities and whole things will be discovered that shows that they lived underground.
	Because they really didn't do too well in the sun.
	Okay.
	Why don't you give out your website URL and any other information.
	This is the end of our show and thank you very much for being on the show with me.
	It's been fascinating and I encourage everyone to go to your website anyway.
	But could you, a few parting words?
	Yes.
	I'm still your backup candidate if anybody opens up in Los Angeles.
	You know, I'll be available.
	All right.
	Thank you for that.
	Pardon?
	What's your website?
	Could you please say that?
	www.adamthemissinglink.com.
	This is the title of the book, adamthemissinglink.com.
	Okay.
	Wonderful.
	People can get there.
	Let's stay in touch, and I'd like to hear more about your work in the future and have you back.
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