This is Laura Radio, and we're on the air with David Wilcox.
We are back at the top of the hour.
We've got one more hour to go.
So we're not going to be taking calls now.
We're going to go back with David and talk about some of the other things going on here.
But before we do that, I do want to say that some of my deep black witnesses in the background here are getting through to me.
And the pyramids over Russia, I'm being told it's a modified version of the TR-3B. Uh-huh.
Right, that makes a lot of sense because it's consistent with some of the behaviors that we would expect with the slow-moving, gentle aspect of it and also what your contact was saying about the idea that each of the corners is where the thrust is coming from.
That's consistent with it as well.
Yes, I would say so.
No, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that we are seeing A big technology display that's clearly anomalous so that it's getting people closer and closer to asking the right questions, and the timing of Obama making that announcement cannot be an accident.
It's very clear that when you and I spoke to Peterson, we know that the sources that he got this information from are at very high levels, and it was three independent sources that gave him the same thing.
What I said when I first announced this on Coast and what I said in my articles on my website, Divine Cosmos, is that it seems to me, based on, in this case, dream data that I've been getting, that this disclosure event will correlate with an economic event.
And, again, the reason why any of my dreams would have credibility is that I have this background of having done client readings, 500 clients, where I would dream for them, And the dream would give a very precise description of their issues and their life problems before I ever knew anything about them other than that they were going to have a session that day.
So there's an established track record of accuracy coming through this medium.
I've been doing it for 17 years, writing them down every morning and analyzing them successfully to a large degree.
If you don't understand it right away, you might figure it out later on once you learn the language.
So the language has been saying to me for two years now, very strongly, that there was going to be some sort of economic, major economic event, that it would look like absolutely certain disaster.
As it gets closer and closer and as it really comes into view, people's sense of it will be totally apocalyptic.
But I'm also consistently being told, and this is where I differ with the people that would say that we just need to hole up in bunkers and stuff, It's not actually going to affect most people very much.
The DREAMS have said that like third world countries and countries where there's a lot of poverty may have interruption of goods and services sufficient to cause some substantial death.
But in terms of most people in the West, I don't really think we're going to see very much hardship beyond a certain degree of temporary shock.
But it does seem that disclosure is Part and parcel of this economic meltdown that's happening.
And this gets back into what I told you in the last hour, Kerry, that I wanted to bring up.
A very, very fascinating set of data has just emerged.
Somebody just alerted me to it a few days ago.
I've had really a hard time concentrating on anything else because it is absolutely voluminous and wonderful stuff.
Here's the website you go to to read this.
It's Peter David Beeter, spelled B-E-T-E-R, So that is a guy, Peter Beter.
And again, it's an unfortunate alliteration in the way his name sounds.
But it kind of sounds like somebody masturbating or something.
I understand that.
I don't know if it's going to cause lots of laughter, but that is his name.
The website, however, is very fascinating because this guy is a real bona fide insider.
That's another double antenna I shouldn't have used.
But anyway...
In the 70s, he comes forward with 80 tapes, and he's just doing what we're doing with Camelot now, and what I'm doing on my website, Divine Cosmos.
And I would say we, because Carrie, you and I have obviously interviewed people together, and I feel like I'm part of the team.
Anyway, what we're doing is we're looking for data that correlates with what we now are seeing.
So this guy is in the 70s bringing out stuff that...
It really gives you a fascinating glimpse into some things.
Now, there is a link on his site that is like a summary of these 80 tapes.
He was making tapes and updating people, I guess maybe on a weekly basis or bi-weekly basis.
They were called audio letters, and I guess he was duplicating the cassettes and then sending them out to people.
The thing that's so cool about this is that all of the audio is free, all of the transcripts are free, And it's a well-positioned insider giving whistleblower testimony, which I've never seen before in any of the conspiracy media.
It's brand new stuff.
But he's talking about the Rothschilds.
He's talking about the Rockefellers.
There's a whole history of how the Rockefellers came into power.
And he's also talking about a war that has been going on between factions for a long, long time.
And specifically, there's two things that I'm pointing us towards right now, and that is He talked about in 1976 there was something called the Underwater Missile Crisis, which was never publicly acknowledged, but apparently the Soviet Union,
who at that point was still trying to fight the U.S. very strongly, had actually gotten these nukes that were positioned offshore, right next to the U.S. coast, so they could make a first strike without us having time to respond.
And this is all related back to one of the most fascinating things that he does is to correlate the formation of the Rothschilds back into Russia with the Khazars who essentially adopted Judaism as a sort of official religion but were not Jews to begin with and basically have been in this very,
very bitter war with other Russians who he calls the New Kremlin who he says are coming from a Christian perspective And the Khazars in the first place were totally wiped out by people in the name of Christianity, so they have a very, very strong aversion to Christianity.
He's calling them Bolsheviks, Bolshevik Zionists.
And so he says that Bolshevism and Zionism are both offshoots of Rothschild philosophy.
I didn't really know how much the Illuminati traced back to Russia and the origins of the Soviet Union before it was the Soviet Union, how much on some levels The war between the U.S. and USSR was very real.
But this underwater missile crisis, actually, he directly intervened by giving our own guys at the top level of the brass and Pentagon the coordinates of where these little subs were, these mini-subs that had these nukes on them.
And then, even though they publicly denied any validity to the data, they came back and begged him for the new round of coordinates once he got those.
And so we averted, apparently, a total nuclear disaster from that.
He also says...
We continued to send probes to the moon after the Apollo missions officially ended in 1972 based on some base in the Indian Ocean.
Now again, he doesn't seem to be high enough in the cover-up to understand Roswell and UFO technology, but he did know that our guys here, you know, this is the Rockefeller faction now, were trying to install some sort of particle beam technology on the moon And that once they had that, they could basically zap anything on the Earth and were literally invincible.
And there was this whole effort that the other faction had to make, the new Kremlin faction, to basically disable that system.
So there was a war that was actually fought in space that they called the Battle of the Harvest Moon, because that was the night that it happened sometime in December, which is the Harvest Moon.
He also was saying that Skylab, if you remember way back, I was an astronomy geek, and there was a big kind of disappointment when Skylab, this Russian space station that was openly acknowledged, apparently fell out of orbit and then had to crash in Canada.
What he's saying is that the Kremlin guys actually blew it up because our guys were in cooperation with the Bolshevik Axis, and they were going up to this probe And basically using it as a base of operations to build this particle beam technology.
And the Kremlin guys were worried that the Bolshevik guys, or the so-called Roshad Illuminati, were going to take this technology away from the U.S. and use it to basically blow up whoever they wanted.
Well, there have actually been some books written about this.
And there's a whistleblower out there.
Her name is...
I'm trying to find the article.
We have it actually on our website.
She's written a book.
Her name is Nancy, and I forget her last name, and I'm looking for it as we speak here, but she wrote a book about this very thing, a particle beam weapon that is located on the moon.
And in fact, she and her husband have been harassed, and in fact, she was afraid for her life quite a bit, and at one point, She was supposed to speak, I believe it was at the crash retrieval conference, and we went on stage and read a letter from her basically saying that she had decided not to come and speak.
She was apologizing to the crowd simply because she felt her life was in danger or she did so.
Now her book was fiction, but she has, and her husband had, something of a military background.
And apparently, so this information is out there and has been for quite some time in different guises, apparently.
But this is a very interesting whistleblower you're talking about here.
And I'm also getting confirmation from one of our secret witnesses in the back here, saying that this is exactly what his handler was telling him.
And just about history there.
So that's real interesting.
Well, the thing that fascinates me the most, and the reason why I consider this to be so poignant, is that we can prove that this guy was saying all these things in the 1970s.
The tapes were made back then.
There's a paper trail leading to the 1970s.
None of this stuff has been changed or altered as much as I can tell, because you can download all the MP3 files, the original MP3s, The stuff has been around for a long time, but the thing is, it's got all the stuff that we're only learning now from whistleblowers.
And so this is more, I'm saying this for the behalf of the skeptics who refuse to believe any of this stuff and think that all of this is nonsense.
If you've got a guy in the 70s saying the same stuff, and you start finding out all these very strange things, like, for example, they talk about Guyana, the so-called Jonestown Massacre where this guy, Jim Jones, We had a cult of people, and they all ended up allegedly drinking the Kool-Aid.
That's where the expression comes from.
And they all apparently died of cyanide poisoning.
Well, Dr.
Beter, when he was making these tapes, said, first of all, cyanide death causes your face to be horribly contorted in pain when you die, and your body is all convulsed and cramped up, whereas these people are all face down and very orderly in the way that they died.
They were all laid out face down.
He was actually saying that there was a base of operations for Soviets right near where this Jonestown was, and that the whole massacre seems to have been a cover for some sort of covert op that was done against the Soviets in this sort of unseen arms race along the same lines of the Cuban Missile Crisis, but now happening at another place.
And there was some kind of massive operation To take out a bunch of people that were trying to support the Soviets.
So that's kind of the implication you get from this.
But what he keeps saying as you read this summary of the tapes on his website is that there's all these things that are happening in the news that represent the war between factions.
And if you don't understand that there are factions and they're warring with each other very violently, then these things won't make any sense to you.
And so it's very, very current for today because if you don't understand Why, for example, the Ministry of Defense in Britain just the other day said, oh, well, we're closing the file on UFOs.
There's nothing to see here.
Move along, people.
And then you have this spiral appear over Norway right before Obama makes his speech to accept the Nobel Peace Prize.
These things are not accidents.
This is not coincidence.
And we have a trail now we can trace back to the 1970s of whistleblowers telling you everything that we've been learning from Fulford, everything we've been learning from the highest-ranking people coming forward.
It was already said back then And we only found it now.
So we're making all these connections.
And again, the most likely thing is that this is true.
And that's why we're hearing all this stuff.
Not that it's a hoax.
Not that it's a bunch of people leading us down the garden path.
But that we're actually dealing with a real disclosure.
It is going to happen.
You're not going to have to wait for 2012.
As Richard and I were discussing, some people, a lot of people on the inside, believe 2012 is Armageddon.
It's the climate change disaster of some kind, maybe a pole shift.
And so whatever they're going to do, they've got to do it before then.
So that's what we're heading into right now, and it may very well be that they're getting ready to, you know, roll out all the big guns well in advance of 2012 so that we have time to prepare for it, whatever they think we need to do.
So we have time to prepare.
Who are you talking about?
The powers that be want us to prepare?
Actually, that's exactly what they don't want to have happen.
They don't want people to prepare, in our opinion, anyway.
I have to, just to let people, just before we go there, though, I do want to tell people that the witness I was talking about, her name is Nancy Williams, she's on our website under Special Reports, and she's got a book that she wrote about a particle beam weapon called A Matter of Destiny.
It was basically about the shoot down over Brookhaven and the classified plasma beam super weapon.
It is really about alluding to the weapon on the moon.
And there's another book out there, a sci-fi book, that I read quite a while ago that's all about that.
I can't remember the name of that either.
Well, Daniel told me that he worked for Brookhaven, so that right there is one of the first signs that we're on the right track with this lady.
Yeah, absolutely.
But as far as preparing, I've got to say that's really questionable.
I've got...
A witness behind the scenes talking to me about, for some reason, he's bringing up the topic of Diego Garcia.
Diego Garcia.
That's a base.
Right.
And he's also talking about the SCAT in Northern Norway, I guess it is.
And something about the Russian ionosphere heater.
That's very active.
Yeah, the IceCat is the name for the HAARP facility that's in Norway that we were saying is near the island of Tromsø where everybody saw this thing in the sky.
Right.
And then there's something about this being developed by the Russians, and it's also been researched, I'm told, covertly with elements of the Australian government in the mid-'80s as green thunder in the sky.
Interesting.
Yeah, it's interesting.
The luminous green connection shows up a lot when you're dealing with these sort of trans-dimensional technologies.
Because even in terms of natural phenomena, as we know, and I say in all my lectures, Ivan Sanderson in 1972 published a paper called The Twelve Devils Graveyards Around the World.
And this paper basically laid out his research where he examined All of the aircraft disappearances in recorded aviation history that he could find, and all of the marine disappearances going back hundreds of years that he could find.
And then for each time something disappeared, he found the coordinates and he put a pin on a big world map to show where it was.
And after doing this over and over and over again, he found that they all kept clustering into the same 12 locations on the Earth's surface, and they were equally distant from each other.
Which suggests some kind of geometry.
In fact, if you connect the dots, you get this 20-sided polygon called an icosahedron.
Now, we're not saying there's a crystal in the Earth.
We're saying that this type of geometry is a natural occurrence in a vibrating fluid.
The fluid, in this case, is the torsion field or the spacetime medium itself.
The vibration is where these spacetime anomalies happen.
Bermuda Triangle, Devil's Triangle off the coast of Japan.
There's one off the coast of Rio de Janeiro in Brazil.
There's two on either side of Australia.
And these zones literally correspond to areas in which you can warp through space and time and have a dimensional crossover.
And the reason why I'm bringing all this up is that if you read the original books on the Bermuda Triangle, like Charles Berlitz, the book called Bermuda Triangle, He describes, over and over again, whistleblowers who have actually experienced the Bermuda Triangle's energy, saying that it always seems to manifest as this sort of luminous green mist that shows up right before you go into the vortex.
So it would totally make sense that any man-made technology that's doing the same type of stuff would have the same type of glow associated with it, because that is apparently somehow related to this transdimensional effect.
Well, you know, there's a scientist, and I can't remember his name.
I think he lives in the Far East, but he's written a book, I believe, about this.
I think we've heard about him in Australia, for some reason, when we were at the Nexus conference.
Are you talking about Bruce Cathy, by any chance?
Yes, exactly.
And he talks exactly about all of that, those particular points on the globe.
And I have to say that the beginning of Close Encounters of the Third Kind, where Spielberg has the scene in which, you know, they're discovering these old planes that suddenly manifest out of the vortex, is also a looting call.
You just reminded me of something very interesting, too, which is that the day before this Norwegian spiral showed up, I was having a meeting about the Convergence screenplay at my house with Jim Hart, the guy that wrote contact, and his writing partner, Amanda Wells.
And we were talking about a motif that we were going to use in the film, which was of a spiral manifesting in nature.
And I've had some of the witnesses that you and I both know, Carrie, at my house.
And during the time that this particular witness, one in particular, was at the house, I had a sewage pipe burst in the ceiling over the kitchen, and it caused water to fall all over the kitchen when the toilet was flushed.
The whole pipe burst open like a banana across a six-foot-wide length of the pipe, which clearly seemed to be saying, no more effing leaks.
You know, like somebody used the technology to pop that pipe, you know?
That's great.
Okay.
A sense of humor.
Right, and so if somebody's listening in to my house, you know, and again, this sounds very narcissistic, and I apologize in advance, but it is very curious that in the same house, right next to where the pipe burst, we're having this meeting, talking about the idea of spirals manifesting in nature, and they're asking me, has that ever happened?
Do we have any real data to show spirals showing up in the sky or in the ocean or whatever?
And frickin' the very next day, This spiral shows up in Norway and I sent them an email and linked to the thing and they were both just totally tripping out on this.
So I don't know if that's just coincidence or like that we psychically sensed it.
We've actually already decided we're probably not going with the spiral motif in the movie.
We're going to use something else.
But it was heavily being discussed in that meeting and the very next day this happened.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I've got to interrupt here to say that I'm getting background information here from two people.
And both of them are basically saying that things are really revving up right now.
And they are saying that there are preparations being done by some negative sides of the equation to prepare for something pretty big, it looks like.
I know that's vague, but for what it's worth.
Well, look, the point that we all have to remember is, and I keep saying this and I keep saying this and I keep saying this, The changes that we're talking about, whatever this fourth density shift is, if you want to use channel ease, like from the Law of One, or if you want to call it ascension,
to use a Christian term that I often have used, or if you want to go more scientific and say that it's like this galactic energy wave that's coming in that seems to be transforming DNA and molecular biology in very fundamental ways that you can measure in the fossil record, these 26 and 62 million year cycles in which all the life on Earth basically gets a rewrite, And seems to upgrade quite spontaneously.
My explanation has always been that those long-term cycles of multi-millions of years are happening because of galactic waves that actually rewrite DNA. And we have laboratory proof that that can happen.
We have Gariev, this Russian scientist, who's actually shown frog eggs being rewritten into salamander eggs by taking the waves from the salamander eggs and shotting them into the frog eggs.
So we know this stuff works.
We know that it's available.
And what I keep saying is, don't expect some cosmic light switch to go off on December 21, 2012.
The human species is now evolving a hundred times faster in the last 5,000 years.
And what that also means is that if you took somebody from 3000 BC, that person is more similar to Neanderthal than they are to you and me.
That's how fast our DNA is changing.
Dr.
John Hawks from the University of Wisconsin has proven that.
So we already know that we're going through this massive evolutionary spike.
We already know that we've had a massive increase in technology in the last 300 years.
What I'm saying is don't keep waiting for something to happen.
It's going to happen right in front of your face.
It's going to happen right now.
It's going to be no denying it.
And you're not going to have to wait for it.
And we are seeing now the manifestations of things we never thought possible.
An unimaginable manifestation of this weird spiral in the sky that looks like a painting.
It does not look like a natural phenomenon at all.
And there it is.
So the proof is right in front of your face.
You don't need to wait for it.
And it's going to keep happening.
I do believe that.
I think the more that the stakes rise and the more that people are pushing the envelope here, You're probably going to see more and more of this type of stuff happening.
It's not just going to stop.
In fact, I can barely even keep up with all the developments that are going on.
There was a speech that Obama made with the Indian Prime Minister the same night that those people tried to crash the White House Party, and there was so much publicity about that.
That night, he made a speech in which he's saying, and I'll get the exact quote here in just a second, something about how In this night where we're under the stars and we're surrounded by great friends, and he keeps referring back to the starry skies.
In fact, I'm pulling up the link right now so I can read you the exact transcript of it because it's so incredibly fascinating.
We are surrounded by great friends, for it's been said that the most beautiful things in the universe are the starry heavens above us and the feeling of duty within us.
Tonight, under the stars, we celebrate the spirit that will sustain our partnership, the bonds of friendship between our people.
So again, he's saying, we are surrounded by great friends, and then the very next sentence after saying we're surrounded by great friends is, for it's been said the most beautiful things in the universe are the starry heavens above us and the feeling of duty within us.
Well, duty for what?
Sorry to interrupt again, David, but I am getting some information here, and this is news happening as we are on the air and as we speak.
This is the information I'm being given, okay?
Go for it.
There has been a hit over Asia, possibly Russia, not to ask any questions, and there's an information blackout happening right starting now.
So this is just the news that this person is giving us.
He is in some touch with some particular people in the background as well.
And so you're getting it here on Project Camelot with the blower radio.
You know, I have to say that I also had, I guess you might call it a premonition, that I felt that Camelot had to be on the air, on the airways, At this time and that there would be times like today, like this moment,
when news would be coming so fast and so furious that it would be absolutely crucial that we were sort of there and able to talk about it and to people and make people aware of what was going on behind the scenes.
So this is feeding into exactly what I had sort of seen and it's very fascinating.
I guess there's also some more things to unfold.
I think we're going to be going to a bottom-of-the-hour commercial very shortly here.
And there's some music right on cue, as it were.
So we will be back on the other side of this bottom-of-the-hour, and we will continue.
And this is Project Camelot with the lower radio on the micro-EFAC.
Project Camelot with the lower radio on the micro-EFAC.
Project Camelot with the lower radio on the micro-EFAC.
David, you there?
Yes.
Great.
Okay, so we got some very interesting news right at the bottom of the hour right there.
I cannot elaborate.
I'm told not to even delve into that.
There is something going on.
It's interesting because at some point, you never know if it's going to hit the real news, the so-called consensus reality news, if you will.
Right.
But you are hearing it here from a person who is a legitimate source that we know quite well.
Anyway.
There was a little bit more on that Obama story I wanted to go into.
It's really, really relevant.
Think about the White House gate crashers.
Think about these folks, the Salahis, who got into the White House at this particular party, passed security, and were able to attend the event and photograph themselves with Rahm Emanuel and Joe Biden, etc., etc., All under the guise of being people that were known, and they got right through security even though they weren't on the guest list.
What you may not know is that that very night was the night that Obama had this same meeting with the Indian Prime Minister where he said, again, We are surrounded by great friends.
The most beautiful things in the universe are the starry heavens above us and the feeling of duty within us.
We celebrate the spirit that will sustain the bonds of friendship between our people.
So this is very clearly, this is what Richard Hoagland and I are thinking, and we're actually co-authoring a piece that's going to come out on my website to find Cosmos about this, that those people knew Obama, and the reason why they're unwilling to testify is probably because they were asked to go.
And they were asked to go because what happened is, since they were already known in Secret Services, oh yeah, we know you guys, come on in.
It was an attempt to test the waters of security around the White House, because obviously one of the things they're most paranoid about is when they make this disclosure announcement, are they going to have the security to stop everybody in the Cabinet, including Obama, from being shot?
And so they're going to need to tighten up security, they're going to need to find out who can they trust, In the Secret Service, who's the mole?
Who's the leak?
And is the Secret Service really on their toes and watching out for what could happen?
So this seems to be some friends of Obama's that were asked to do this.
They heroically did it to test the security on the same night that he makes this very, very enigmatic statement in his address about the starry heavens and being surrounded by great friends and the bonds of friendship that need to be formed between our people.
So look, if you know what you're looking for and you look at the pieces of data, seemingly strange stories like that that don't make any sense, just like what this guy Dr.
Beter was saying in the 70s, they start making sense when you understand that you've got warring factions in the elite, some of which want disclosure, some of which do not.
But I think we're at a tipping point.
And again, the V television program very, very obviously is propagandizing disclosure To try to make it look like if Obama comes out with this, that he's being led by these reptilian evil beings, they're name-dropping universal health care, they're name-dropping the swine flu vaccine as being this thing in which an alien virus is being introduced into humanity.
Now, the show doesn't tell you what the point of that thing being put in the swine flu vaccine is for just yet.
But the fact that it showed up in this television program at all, They're getting so audacious and bold, it's like they don't even care anymore.
They're just putting it right out in front of your face.
And I think as far as V goes, it's an attempt to try to steer the right-wing fundamentalist Christian types into thinking that when Obama makes this announcement that it's the preface to a massive alien invasion that's going to be very evil and ultimately lead to our destruction.
Well, now that you mention it...
I have to say that our recent interview, which I encourage everyone to go and watch if they haven't already done so, with Jordan Maxwell, in which he basically talks about that very thing, is a case in point.
I mean, you basically have to decide whether or not that announcement, if such an announcement is made, and I'm not actually so convinced that such an announcement will be made.
But I do believe that covert sort of background stuff will continue to happen and the plausible deniability will continue for quite some time.
I do think that we will have, if we have disclosure, I believe that it's going to come sort of at the tail end of some other cataclysmic situations.
But at any rate, You know, I mean, I think that there is a negative contingent out there, and I do believe that that disclosure may involve just that group.
In other words, the positive EPs, on a certain level, first of all, they've already disclosed to individuals around the planet, and they are there.
They're there sort of Watching over and making themselves apparent to certain individuals, like myself, like yourself, and like some other people out there.
And, you know, I'm not so sure that a disclosure is coming from them, I guess, in essence.
So it'll be interesting to see what happens.
The losing situation is always a question.
But again, the whole basis of the White House party crashers and the things that Obama is saying, it's almost like they're just, they're like urging, urging to say it.
They just want to say it so bad, but they can't quite do it yet.
And then he makes this speech at the UN, not the UN, but in Norway, to accept the Peace Prize.
And they got this spiral that manifests the day before, you know, hours before he's going to accept the award.
I would be more on the side of being willing.
I've been in this field since 1996 online when I started to write comprehensive articles on Richard Hoagland's discussion forum.
That was my first entree into all this publicly.
So I've got a 13-year track record here.
I have never before said anything indicating disclosure might happen.
This is the first time I've ever gone with this because what we're seeing is not only the insider testimony Which, like we heard from Peterson, three different highly positioned sources, some of which are amazing if you knew who they were.
And they're saying this is going to happen.
But again, if you remember, Kerry, Peterson also was of the belief that by November of this year that we would be in the middle of a total economic nightmare situation, which obviously hasn't happened.
Sadly, I have to say that Pete Peterson is absolutely a brilliant man.
To sit and listen to him all day and all night and just go for weeks at a time, I have to say, the fount of his knowledge is just so amazing.
But at the same time, whistleblowers are programmed.
They are given information, and he admits freely that they have been told information about the downturn economically That was supposed to happen since 2001, I believe.
Correct.
Correct.
And it has happened.
And he knows it hasn't happened.
So we've got the same thing going on with disclosure.
Regarding that disclosure thing that he had mentioned, he did give it a 50-50 chance.
That's true.
He talked to me about it.
So he was not convinced that it was reality.
He himself is a scientist at heart, really.
And in reality.
And he is something of a skeptic, although he himself has had sidings and so on.
And I encourage you, again, to watch the Project Hamelot interview with him.
It's absolutely fascinating.
Oh, yeah.
He's been on for four hours.
David has got one of those segments.
He was with us when we interviewed Peter Simmons.
And so it was quite excellent.
So, I mean, it's a mixed bag out there.
And how it's going to manifest, I don't know.
But I have to say, I am in agreement with you in terms of consciousness and where it is absolutely possible for us to go as humanity.
And Camelot is in it for that purpose.
I mean, we are here to raise consciousness, to get people to realize the power that they have to change the world, And we believe it's happening every day.
We're getting more and more visitors to our site.
I imagine your numbers are going up as well, David?
Yeah, like you, I'm getting about a million page hits a month.
So we're definitely reaching millions of people.
Whenever we do a show on Coast, you're reaching anywhere between 5 and 20 million.
So millions and millions of people have heard of us or heard from us in some way or another.
It's definitely getting out there.
Yep.
And the other thing is that, well, actually, we've got some callers waiting, I'm being told, and we do have only about 15 minutes left in the show, so we should open it up, if you don't mind, David.
One more thing.
I wanted to toss in a couple things real fast, and then we'll do that.
Sure.
Because part of what we're having right now is a debate about whether disclosure will actually happen or not, and I just wanted to point out First of all, this is a hyper-complex puzzle.
There's many, many pieces of data.
You have to keep all of them in your mind at the same time in order to think about this.
But I will just again steer you back to the fact that we've got Benjamin Fulford, who's talking about the, and he endorsed this story that says that all the gold in Fort Knox has been replaced with fake gold that's tungsten with gold electroplated on the outside.
And I heard from Peterson that it's a total of $7 trillion and includes all the central banks in Europe as well.
They don't even have real gold anymore.
And that's actually coming out in the open.
There's a variety of sites talking about it now.
It's not being hidden.
And this is like the Ponzi scheme finally falling apart.
So although we've had a lot of false alarms, I don't think it's going to be false alarms forever.
I agree with that.
I absolutely agree with that.
And I just want to remind you also that we do have Greer saying that his scientist has now been freed to be able to work on this stuff and get this stuff out into the open.
We've got Fulford saying that the Asians have now built up this formidable economic adversary to the New World Order that does not want genocide, that wants these technologies to come out, and that is basically...
Putting the knee into the back of the neck of the New World Order as they got him pinned on the ground now and saying, you're going to do this.
And we've got Steve Bassett saying now multiple countries that are putting heavy-duty pressure on the U.S. to disclose.
And if they don't do it, then it's going to be done behind their back.
And again, that seems to be what this Norway thing is.
It looks like...
If nobody actually says the disclosure outright on national television...
It's going to happen through some sort of really wild technological demonstration that nobody can ignore.
And I think that, again, it may be resorting to guys like you and me and all of you people out there listening.
We're the ones that know what's going on.
We're going to need to help people who don't know what's going on.
They're going to be very confused and frightened.
And we're going to need to help them understand this is not an alien invasion in progress.
This does not mean you're going to be living on gravel and shoe leather.
You know, you're going to have an economy.
Things are going to keep on going.
There is a higher positive presence that I call management.
The ETs, it basically makes sure the planet doesn't fall apart.
And so you read about things like from Dr.
Beter about this battle of Harvest Moon and the battle of the underwater missiles.
They keep getting thrown off.
We don't have an apocalypse.
Although the insiders keep trying to make one happen, it never does.
So I just, again, You know, regardless of what the callers are going to say, I want to make sure before we get to that that the message comes back to the fact that we may have to do this disclosure ourselves if we are doing it.
And the more whistleblowers who are brave enough and willing enough to come forward and share what they know with us and share it with the people and not try to profit off of it and become multi-billionaires, but share the technology, we can create the future we want to see.
And that's the message that I think we really need to focus on is The technologies that we already know exist, the new sciences that I talk about, I'm going to be talking about it on the third weekend of January in San Francisco.
I have a conference coming up.
All of this stuff is coming out in the open, and we may be responsible, ultimately, to basically do this ourselves, not sit around waiting for the government to do it.
Okay.
Thank you, David.
And we will go to callers now.
I do want to say that we, Project Camelot, are going to be attending a conference in Barcelona.
It's coming up in the 6th and the 7th of February, and we intend to be there to be interviewing a lot of amazing free energy scientists who are going to be there.
On top of it, we've got an MKUltra conference that's happening in Boston, Massachusetts, I believe in the 13th and 14th, if I have those dates right.
It's on our site at any rate.
So I just want to draw people's attention to that, and I also want to say We have a blog that people can go to on the front page of our site for updates and whatever is going on, and we will be putting updates there constantly.
I'm also told to tell you and to remind you, David, from someone writing in here saying, I'm supposed to remind you of the end of the last mimsy.
And I think that's an interesting allusion there.
Yeah, there's a big spiraling vortex at the end of the movie, that's for sure.
Yes, exactly.
Wayne in Missouri, you're the first caller.
Are you on the air with us here?
Yes, I am.
Thank you.
Okay, go right ahead.
I've really enjoyed listening to you guys and stuff.
I believe that the HAARP project is probably ground-based for the most part because of the amount of power that it would take to generate the beams and stuff that are being generated.
That's more than likely...
More than likely, the geosatellites, the Earth-orbiting satellites that are above the equator, are used to focus the holograms, be it the spiral or other type of site that you're seeing.
And the harm is actually feeding the energy into much of the tropospheric and ionospheric ducts.
Differences in temperature have caused the bending and the lights to take and reflect at different It appears to be infrared, but it's not exactly a natural infrared.
It's secondary infrared.
But there's multi-different weapons and stuff that are being used.
There's sound weapons, subsonic weapons.
There's also magnetic particle weapons.
The technologies that exist are so amazing, and there's so many of them out there that most of us have not even a clue what's going on.
Okay.
Well, thank you, caller.
Did you happen to have a question for David or not?
Not really.
I just thought I'd put that in.
Thank you.
No, it's cool.
I definitely am hip to the idea that you could have geostationary satellites who would be involved in helping to focalize these beams because even on the most basic level, interferometry requires two beams, but if you really want to get something going, you probably need three to have the triangulation.
And I could easily see how that triangulation could be harp installation on the ground and then two satellites in space Creating the triangulation that is entirely possible.
Okay, we've got another caller on the line.
This should be Brandon in Ohio.
Are you there with us, Brandon?
Yes, I am.
Hey, guys.
Hey, there.
I've been in New York for like the past year, Project Camelot crew and Divine Cosmos.
I'm a big fan.
It's really opened my eyes to a lot of things.
David, I have a question about you.
I've been having these dreams for most of my life, but The past year, I've been having these dreams that are driving me crazy.
I'm telling you, I can't figure them out.
Okay, lay it on me.
Okay.
If you can do it briefly, because I'm looking at the clock, we only have probably six minutes to go.
Alright, alright.
I have a dream where I'm being communicated to telepathically.
Okay.
One in particular is, I think somewhere in the middle of the dream, I actually realized that I'm dreaming and a whole lot of stuff is going on.
It's like I'm going through these simulations.
The first one that I made, I finally realized that I'm dreaming.
It's like I'm in this room and I'm in a simulation where there's a whole lot of water.
Each simulation I pass, it's like I go to a harder simulation where I have to either learn something or gain something from That past simulation.
So anyway, I make it to this last simulation where it's like I'm in this big room, and I don't know if you guys have ever been to COSI, but there's a part of COSI that's like the planetarium, and it's like the entire constellations of the sky.
Okay.
Or of outer space, I should say.
So I'm in there, and the room is the entire galaxy, pretty much.
Okay.
So there's this voice talking to me the entire time.
It's almost as if I'm being tested.
It's really weird.
So there's this voice the entire time.
It's very...
I mean, I felt safe.
It wasn't a threatening situation.
It was very comfortable.
But the voice is asking me, pick out my galaxy.
Can I find my home?
So it's like something out of a movie, I'm telling you.
The floor raises...
And it raises seamlessly, like it doesn't, it raises almost like a hologram, but I can touch it.
So it raises right in front of me, and this scroll of stars start flying by, but they're not stars, they're galaxies.
And I'm looking at it, and there's just, there's this, I'm telling you, there had to have been like 300,000, probably close to a million galaxies in here.
At first I'm thinking they're stars, but like I said, they're galaxies.
The voice asks me, can I find my home?
And without skipping a beat, I'm like, it's there.
And the scrolling stops, and the galaxy that I picked out starts glowing.
And the voice says, very good.
Well, there's another guy in the room.
It's this white guy.
And I'm an African-American, so that's why I'm saying he's a white guy.
Okay.
And I guess he's going through the same testing I'm going through.
Okay.
And basically after that testing's through, something really weird happens where it's just the two of us in the room and we both look at each other and he goes like, I think I'm you.
And for whatever reason I completely understood what he was saying and he disappears.
And then out of nowhere there's like this huge awakening as if like I just woke like a sleeping giant, but the giant's me.
It's really weird.
That's really, really weird.
Thank you, caller.
That's very good.
And David, I think you could relate to that dream.
Do you want to say a few things?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, sure.
I know I have very little time, and I'll just get to the point.
Sorry, that was a really long dream.
I was actually going to come on here with at least two or three more, but thanks anyway.
Thank you very much, caller.
Yeah, we only have time to do one, but this is a wonderful category of dream that we got here because this is an ascension dream.
And I started to have dreams like this in the early to mid-90s, and they're an awakening process.
First of all, every character, every situation in the dream is yourself.
There is no other character but yourself in the dream.
But it's very rare that you actually realize that in the dream.
And if you ever do, that's when you have an Ascension experience, which you said was a huge awakening like a sleeping giant, the giant is me.
Now, you were saying that you were going through simulations, and they kept getting harder and harder.
And there was one that was a simulation with a whole lot of water.
Anytime you see water in a dream, that means emotions.
And so water symbolizes going through emotional trials.
It's only once you go through these emotional trials, this dream really is archetypal.
Because after you get through the final emotional trial with all the water, you get into the one that's the final one where it's like your cosmic identity.
And you're basically pointing out a galaxy and saying, this is my home.
So, you're getting back into this.
And also, if you're an African American, then anybody of another race, like white or Asian, is going to symbolize your transcendent aspect, or like your higher self.
Similarly, white people, when they get dreams of African Americans in their dreams, those guys will symbolize usually ETs or your higher self.
So, the white guy, in this case, symbolizes some other aspect, some other aspect of yourself that's not here in physical reality, and you're realizing who that is.
So, Yeah, I mean, there are...
This is a wonderful example of an ascension dream.
Many people are having these kinds of things.
I'm getting...
I don't know, Kerry, you probably can agree with this.
We probably get 40 emails like this every day.
Not to diminish its credibility at all, but there are just...
So many people are having this happen now.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, just following your guys' work and just from my own dreams, it's about that time.
Yeah, so, you know...
Thanks a lot.
I mean, I think that's great.
And David, you know, I agree with your interpretation there of the dream, and I think, you know, certainly seeing himself over there was the kind of moment of the dream.
And that is something going on.
I mean, consciousness is going to be reflected in your dream.
And David has been unbelievably diligent in documenting his own dreams.
I actually had a time travel dream myself in which I saw myself.
I passed myself.
Wow.
Just recently.
I was younger, a lot younger or something, so it was maybe on a different timeline or whatever.
Were you aware that you were dreaming or were you just kind of cruising?
Well, it seemed to be very, very awake and aware, but at the same time that person that I passed turned around and looked at me and it was me.
But it was not me in that time.
So I was seeing myself at a different time.
It was really interesting.
So I clearly was time traveling.
Wow.
Anyway, so I think dreams are becoming more and more fascinating.
I think as we get into all of this stuff, especially the waves that we're going into right now, Pretty amazing, amazing stuff going on.
No doubt.
So it's an exciting time to be alive.
David, we've got just a few more minutes.
Do you want to close this statement?
Yeah, I'm hearing the bumper music, so I just want to say we are also going to start a dream-sharing telephone service where you can call in and I'll be analyzing people's dreams as they announce them.
That also is done in the conferences, but again, the point is this is happening in your own life, and the best way to be on the cutting edge of ascension To ground.
Meditate.
Deal with your emotional stuff.
Don't run away from it.
Love yourself.
Love other people.
Focus on what you can do to make positive changes in your own life and the lives of others.
Help us spread the word.
Let people know what you're reading without proselytizing.