Peace Board UPROAR, Greenland 'Total Access', Jack Smith CHAOS + Dems FLIP On Clintons | PBD 724
Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down the Peace Board uproar, Trump’s “total access” push on Greenland, Jack Smith’s legal turmoil, and Democrats shifting their stance on the Clintons.
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01:31 - Topics on the show
10:16 - Newsom humiliated at Davos.
30:00 - CNN says Trump guilty of sex trafficking.
40:10 - Trump announces Greenland framework.
51:50 - Trump kicks Carney off Peace Board.
1:18:10 - Barron Trump saves woman from beating.
1:23:00 - FCC's late-night show "equal time" rule
1:30:20 - Musk on reversing aging.
1:46:45 - Musk's space AI data centers.
1:55:05 - Jamie Dimon at Davos.
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Did you ever think you would make your way fussing on something so it tastes sweet victory?
I know this life meant for me.
Adam, what you think?
The future looks bright.
And Jay, he's better than anything I ever saw.
He's right here.
You are a one-on-one?
My son's right there.
I don't think I've ever said this before.
All right.
Episode 724.
I didn't even know what the number was.
You realize we are 276 away from 1,000 episodes, okay?
And today's a special podcast.
Why?
Because during Christmas, we did a special thing that if you go out there and make a certain purchase, we were going to choose somebody to come and be on a podcast.
When we did, the names that we were pulling, the name that came up was Efren Bariga.
Efren Bariga came to us from LA.
We've never met.
We've never spoken, except at one time when I FaceTimed you to surprise you, you thought it was AI talking to you.
But now he is in the flesh.
We took him out to dinner last night.
We had a great time, and he's going to be on the podcast.
We have no connection.
You never worked for me.
You never worked for the insurance company.
Zero nothing at all.
And he's got some beautiful shoes on.
If you want to show it, that he's got right now.
And yesterday we got a chance to know, for the people that don't know, he's from Michuacan.
A lot of people that are Mexican, a lot of pride in Michuacan.
I know the Aguilar brothers, Ricardo Alejandro, five kids, family guy, wants more kids, worked at SpaceX for eight years, and he's got a bunch of ideas on some stories he wants to talk about.
So let's get right into it.
This Davos thing is still going on.
Jamie Dimon gave his speech.
Carney from Canada came up talking a little bit of smack.
The president just tweeted something a few minutes ago, I believe, and said, look, I appreciate your attention to this matter, but we have decided to remove you from the board of peace.
You're no longer participating in it.
We wish you all the best.
They're out.
Okay.
Then when the president was in Davos on his flight back, he's like, look, when we were having issues on our border, did NATO come and support us?
Maybe we need NATO to come in.
What is it?
Article 2.
Article 5.
We need your help.
Come on down.
And NATO's like, wait a minute.
Their position at first was leave Greenland alone.
We can defend ourselves.
And then all of a sudden it's like, no, we kind of need you.
Well, if America wants Greenland, it's okay.
And Cauchy's report just now that Tom just showed me just went up 50%.
It was at 24%.
It's at 44% now.
Sudden spike.
How much money was a bet already wagered?
$4 million, $5 million.
The number was a real number, $2.5 million.
$2.5 on one and $5.1 on another.
$2.5 on one and $5.1 on another.
$7 million out there, but no greenland.
Look at that.
45% now.
It's spiked up on whether they'll have it in 20, whether it happened before 29.
Before 27 is 27%.
So some are even believing it could happen before 20.
By the way, look at how quickly that went up on before 27, the blue one, if you're looking at that closely.
And then aside from that, a bunch of other things are going on as well.
Nine Democrats turned on Clintons and said, look, with all this stuff that's going on, you got to kind of come in and do this because we can no longer defend you.
Scott Jennings was on CNN as usual, being the CEO of the entire company, in my opinion.
One of the guys said something about the president saying he's leading a trafficking, whatever.
He had to apologize afterward.
Jennings is looking at the host saying, are we going to let this happen?
The host says, let me do my job.
Let me do my job.
Let me do my job.
And then Scott's like, we're about to get sued.
Are you crazy?
And guess what just happened two days ago?
President Trump just announced they're suing JP Morgan Chase for $5 billion.
Billion.
Billion dollars.
And I think it's Jamie and Chase is who they're suing.
And by the way, I thought Jamie did a great job at Davos.
I thought his message was good.
I was impressed.
But what he had to say, and it was actually a very good message there.
And then there's a bunch of other things we got here that we'll get into.
FCC late night shows may not be exempt from equal time for opposing candidates, meaning you have to have opposing candidates there.
And Tom goes back, you know, Tom being a historian, he is, he goes back and says many years ago, Johnny Carson had a guest on, and it was who, the actress, what's her name?
Charlton Hesson was one of them on the conservative side.
And then on the liberal side, it was a female, Jane Fonda.
Jane Fonda, which everybody were like very different.
And then Johnny's like, hey, we can't talk about this stuff.
We're getting too much into politics.
Time out.
Let's go back into the.
So there is some history behind this.
And Jimmy Kimmel's not happy about it.
He commented on this, asking his fans to come out and, you know, say some thoughts about it.
Chris Cuomo calls out Scott Jennings.
We'll get into that as well.
Finnish president.
This is a bad look, guys.
Comes out saying we don't need Europe.
A few minutes later, saying, Well, no, I never said that.
The lady's like, Wait, you did say that.
We don't need NATO.
Yeah, we don't need NATO.
We don't need NATO.
We don't need the U.S.
Yeah, we don't need the U.S.
We can defend ourselves without U.S.
And things changed very, very quickly.
Trump says prosecutions are coming over RIC 2020 election and stunning off-script moment of Davos.
Gavin Newsom was humiliated denied at first to give his talk and I was interviewed.
And then he was selling knee pads to people at 100 bucks with Trump's signature on it.
Yeah.
Then we got the Greenland deal we'll talk about.
Then we have the, you know, Iran, something's happened with Iran.
Korean Marina Karina Machado was seen in a picture with Reza Palavi.
I got some thoughts on that.
I got some messages yesterday from people on media asking and saying, hey, what do you think about this?
What does this really mean?
Is this a good move?
Is this not a good move?
I'll give my thoughts.
While the president was speaking, Newsom was C-SPAN focused on Newsom's face to see his reaction.
Rob just pulled that up.
We'll talk about that as well.
And then aside from that, Judge Denies declines to sign off on charges against CNN anchor Don Lemon and AG Pambandi, two community leaders arrested over disruption of ICE pastors church services that took place, which a lot of people are celebrating.
The fact that that finally happened.
And then we got a couple other things.
Sinners makes history.
You know the movie Sinners that was one of the worst movies I've seen in my life makes history.
Setting Oscar nomination record.
How many was it?
16 or 17?
How many times have Sinners being nominated?
Was it 16 or 17, Rob?
Some ridiculous amount of times.
And we're curious whether you liked it or not.
We'll give our thoughts on it because did we go watch it with Tico?
Me and Tico and 20 minutes in, we looked at each other and we got mad at Tico because we're like, why did he say, I didn't think, he's like, I thought it was going to be like a good horror movie.
It was the worst, top five worst movies I've ever seen in my life.
Yeah, it was pretty bad.
And then Musk wants to take SpaceX public to get funding for space data centers for AI.
And Efris got thoughts on that.
Rob, did you see the clip of Musk being interviewed by Larry Fink?
And then Fink asks a question, can we extend aging?
Bison Burger Debate00:03:04
Did you hear Musk's response?
Did you see this?
Have you guys seen this or no?
Oh, that's great that you haven't seen it.
You have to see his answer.
He says, yeah, you know, if we wanted to be able to extend life, it's actually not that hard to do so.
Probably in our lifetime, we'll be able to do it.
He says, you know, death is not a bad thing.
Like, we need to die.
And then Larry's like, well, I hope that happens in our lifetime.
You have to see this.
A very, very, very discussion on the podcast.
Yes, we have.
We've had the discussion.
Maybe we'll do it again.
I'm not afraid of it.
I just don't want to be there when it happens.
Yeah.
So we'll have that conversation here today as well.
And with that being said, let's get right into it.
Efren, maybe take a minute here and share with the audience how you ended up being on the podcast.
So it was during Christmas, like you said, and I ended up, I was going to buy the merch anyway.
So I ended up buying two pairs of the shoes and then also the sales classes.
I saw a massive discount, so I purchased that.
And I actually love what you guys do on the emails.
I still get emails right now saying you have not started the courses.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So when are you starting up?
Well, because right now my goal is to improve communication.
So I'm taking the course for that.
Good.
Once that's completed, then I'll jump to that course.
I love it.
So it's actually following up with you to make sure you do it.
Love it.
Well, good for the team.
Good for you for doing that.
Awesome.
Okay.
How was last night for you, by the way?
Great.
It was, yeah.
So, you know how people say you're the average of the five people you spend the most time with?
Man, mind-blowing.
Last night.
The level of conversation you guys were having.
Yeah.
Favorite part of the meal?
The bison burger, man.
We have that.
Well, me and my wife haven't had.
We had, there used to be one in Orange County on Anaheim Hills, or actually your Belinda, and it shut down after COVID.
But we used to have the Bison Burger there.
I haven't had that in over two years.
So when you mentioned it, I was like, oh, yes, I'll take that.
Yeah, well, the Bison, I've had the Bison Burger as well.
It's delicious.
But these guys do a really good job at it at Casa D'Angelo.
Adam asked a question.
I think it's a good, fair question to ask you.
Go ahead.
You were asking a question about Mexicans.
What did you ask him off camera?
Because I think that's actually a good question.
And he had a good answer for you.
Oh, I said, who do?
I was like, who are the Mexicans' competitors?
Who do you got beef with?
And my response was themselves.
So it's just growing up and being in that environment, it's always we hated on each other for some odd reason.
Really?
Yeah.
Meaning, like, you don't want to see each other thrive.
Correct.
It's like, hey, I'm learning this new skill set.
I don't want to teach it to you because you're going to take my job.
It's always that competitiveness.
Crabs in a bucket mentality.
Well, listen, just so you know, that's only in the Mexican community.
That never happens in the Middle Eastern.
That never happens to Syrians, Armenians.
Never happens to anybody else.
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I have beef with one Mexican.
His name is Ricardo Aguilar.
Gavin Newsom's Humiliation00:15:48
He knows what to find.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Let's get right into it.
Civil War.
Let's get right into it.
Let's get right into it.
First story.
Rob, if we want to go straight into what was it we said we're going to make our first story.
Did we say uh, um?
Did we say Davos Rob, let's go Davos, let's go Davos uh, let's go Davos uh, uh.
And I want to see which one to go here with.
All right, let's go with Gavin Newsom, since we're here with California.
Gavin Newsom, humiliated after he denied entry to Trump's Davos clubhouse for mocking boring speech, as White House sends him x-rated message.
If you have the clip on this uh, if you have the clip on this Rob, of uh him finding out I don't know if you have that one where he finds out he's not going to be on.
Do you know which one i'm talking about?
Yeah, this is an actual.
This is the screen grab of the shot that apparently the White House took at Gavin Newsom.
That's uh referenced in that.
So let's see that.
So the failing governor of California, rampant with fraud, watches from the corner.
What is that?
Cuck chair, as President of the United States, delivers a true masterclass on Davos.
Embarrassing.
Rapid response 47.
Is that an actual government account?
Rob, is that a government account or is that so?
Because if you take a rapid response account.
All right, so go back if you could.
So rapid response.
And Newsom responds and says, if you can go back a little bit, go back one tweet.
Yeah, there you go.
The president of the United States is at Davos addressing the world's top leaders, and he still can't stop thinking about Gavin Newsom.
We all know who's in the corner chair here, and it's not Gavin.
Okay.
So then Gavin gets up on stage and gives us talk.
Rob, if you want to play the clip of him speaking, is this the one with the knee pads?
Yes, sir.
Go ahead, Rob.
They're the new Trump signature series knee pads.
Yeah, and they are available online.
I told you, the last one sold out.
And I just want to say this is a serious moment.
It is.
Serious moment.
We laughed.
Serious moment, we laugh in bulk, too.
But I want to read you a couple of things the U.S. government has said about you in the last 20.
Can you go to that one when he continues to say what the government said about him?
Go ahead, Rob.
In bulk, too.
But I want to read you a couple of things the U.S. government has said about you in the last 24 hours or so.
The U.S. government.
The Treasury Secretary.
The Treasury Secretary described you as Patrick Bateman, meets Sparkle Beach Ken, the White House Communications Director.
That was the U.S. Secretary of Treasury.
I have a couple more.
And then the White House Communications Director called you Gavin Newscomb.
And an official White House account.
The federal government described you with a very online sexual slur that people here probably don't want to hear at 8:30 in the morning.
And you're, in some sense, responding in kind.
It's like, well, you know, fire with fire.
Do you think, should you?
I mean, is that kind of discourse from you, from them, good for America?
Oh, it's deeply unbecoming.
Come on, of course it is.
It's not what we should be doing.
But you've got to point out the absurdity.
You've got to put a mirror up to this.
This is madness.
You see what he's saying about European leaders, you talking down to people, talking past people.
I mean, look at the comments he made yesterday, we're not even discussing because you're discussing all the other comments about windmills or whatever else that was happening.
Well, he talked about Somalia's community.
This is not normal.
It's a deviation of normalcy.
We've got to call it out.
So I put a mirror up to Trump and Trump.
You can pause it right there.
You can pause it right there.
So, Tom, when you hear this, to me, no matter how much the right makes fun of Newsom on what he's saying, what he's doing, how he's irrelevant, how he's this, how he's that, everybody on the right is still talking about Newsom and nobody else.
There is no Pritzker.
There is no AOC.
There is no anybody else on the left that they're talking about except these guys.
Is this the number one guy way ahead where everybody realizes this is probably going to be their 2020 candidate on the Democratic side?
Look, the object here is to put your name in the news and to be the opponent.
And he's doing that.
And Gavin Newsom is doing that.
And he is a skilled guy in front of the media.
He's a skilled politician.
He's not a business guy.
He hasn't accomplished anything.
He's been a career politico, as they said.
And that's all he has done.
And while he was over there, you know, he is in everybody's head, and he is the topic of discussion, and he is the frontline opponent.
It is interesting.
He's not going to be re-elected again, and he seems to have turned his back on California.
And I hope the majority of voters will look at that.
While he was over there, cosplaying as a diplomat, he's an American governor, but he's over there trying to get into rooms, trying to get on stage, really trying to interfere with what's going on in Davos and inject himself into the conversation.
Wells Fargo's announces that it's moving its wealth management division from San Francisco to West Palm Beach, Florida.
So, you know, Ron DeSantis gets a spike the end zone.
It's a couple hundred people are moving down there.
Wells Fargo started in California to help the people during the gold rush to provide reliable banking 174 years ago.
And now Wells Fargo is first major bank to relocate wealth operations to Florida.
So while he's over there, he really seems to have turned his back on the economy of California and these things are still here.
But he is the guy that they're talking about.
And every minute that goes by, the opportunity for everybody else to be that DNC candidate gets smaller.
Rob, can you do me a favor and go to my Twitter account?
And Efren, I'm coming to you next on this.
If you go to my Twitter account, yesterday CBS tweets this, okay?
They put this out there and the tweet gets 34 million views from CBS, okay?
If you can go to, yeah, zoom in, but go to CBS's tweet, not mine.
Go to the bottom to show the number.
35 million people saw this tweet.
Look what it says.
Murders plummeted more than 20% from the year before.
The single largest one-year drop on record and 2025 might be the lowest murder rate in the U.S. since 1900.
A new study found.
125 years.
That's 125 years.
And so by the way, here's what you got to realize, my opinion.
The complete opposite of Trump, if you want to know not the synonym, the antonym of Trump is Newsom.
Okay, very simple.
You got Trump making America safer, borders getting safer.
You know, GDP is growing at a faster rate than inflation.
You got California, the guys losing businesses.
They're leaving.
The best of the best are choosing to leave to go live at a different place.
They're putting the wealth tax, homelessness, waste of money.
You know, what's going on with the fraud that took place there?
Some are saying a quarter of a trillion dollars.
Some are saying a half a trillion dollars of what's going on over there.
It's the complete opposite person.
So the people who hate Trump are going to choose to vote for Newsom, but they're going to get the complete difference in economy and safety in everything that's taking place.
Efren, you live in California.
You were born and raised in Huntington Park, not Huntington Beach, Huntington Park.
I'm familiar with the difference.
You got a family of five.
You're a business owner.
You know, you've done your thing with your family and used to work at SpaceX.
How do you feel as a resident of California with what Newsom is saying and doing?
As disrespectful as if you're in politics, I understand that you go back and forth, right?
And one of the things that for Gavin Newsom, if you're here in our country, yeah, that's going to happen.
But when you leave our country and you go somewhere else and you still continue the same banter, this doesn't look good for the U.S.
So you're saying going to a different country in a different country, making fun of ourselves in front of them, that's not something you should be doing.
No, you're in front of other world leaders.
No, they're seeing a, if you want to attack the U.S., you see the weakest point, which is California and Gavin Newsom.
You know who agrees with you?
Can you play that Stephen A. Smith clip when he was talking about the Stephen A. just went off?
I don't know if you guys saw this or not.
He went off on Newsome.
Watch this clip here, folks.
Gavin Newsome.
Respectfully, what are you doing?
You're the governor of the state of California in the United States of America.
Why are you over in Davos, Switzerland, talking to folks and speaking negatively about the president of the United States?
I have no problem With Gavin Newsom being candid and open about his feelings about our president on United States soil to go over to another country,
Switzerland, to go over there and to be in the presence of other European leaders speaking against the president of the United States.
I'm not down with that.
Y'all might be.
I'm not down with that at all.
You can pause it right there.
Why is that a problem?
Why choose the same ass family, right?
This is what I tell my kids.
If we're in house and we're playing around with each other, calling each other's names, that's fine.
But once you're outside and you're just talking shit to your brother or sister, that's not right.
You're saying to the world, that's okay for others to do the same.
Same concept here.
I love that.
Vinny, where are you at with this?
I have a lot to say about Gavin, but Stephen A. Smith, with all due respect, Gavin's going to be the frontrunner when it comes to election time.
Is he voting for a Democrat or is he going to vote for a Republican?
He said, I saw a video, he voted for Kamala.
Number one.
So my question is, even with this, and I get it, he's, yeah, you can protest and foot to the fire.
Come election time, are you going to vote Democrat?
Because that's the guy, or are you going to vote Republican?
That's the real question.
Number one.
Number two, I was thinking about it when it happened.
Why?
There was no other United States governors that flew and were invited to Davos.
Okay.
Dr. Evil's son, Minnie Me, Alex Soros, brought, that was his little lap dog.
Anytime you see a photo, guys, with Alex Soros holding a guy, that's the guy that they've bought and that's their guy, okay?
With all due respect for all the Democrats, this is a warning for all of you, all right?
California, this is who the Dems want.
California leaves number one in homelessness, top two worst housing affordability, highest poverty rate, number one and number two in highest unemployment rates among states, highest state income tax, and the highest gas taxes in America.
This is your guy.
This is who you guys want.
All right.
And there was another clip that Rob has.
Rob, I could just say it, where he's sitting there and he's bragging about Medicaid and how he's out of the top 16 states.
He says, I don't care about your status.
I don't care who you are.
Basically, opening the window for illegals.
I'll give you health care if you're in California.
I'm your guy.
Is this it, Rob?
Is this a Medicaid?
Can you please play this?
I want to take away something from this.
Do you think that your party went too far or that you went too far?
And I think, for instance, in extending Medi-Cal to the California health care program to undocumented events.
I guess on the big picture and the small picture, I feel like you went too far.
Two different questions.
Do I believe in universal health care?
Yes, regardless of pre-existing conditions, ability to pay, and your status.
Status.
Campaign on that.
We delivered on that.
And I'm proud of that.
We're one of 16 states to provide care to people regardless of immigration staff.
So listen to that.
Regardless of your immigration status, the number one frontrunner for the Democratic Party is basically saying, if you're an illegal and if you're in California, I'm going to give you free health care.
Translate that to, now I'm the president, I'm going to open up the border to bring more illegals because I got your back.
That's going to be his voting base.
And the fact that he said, it's so funny.
He goes with Trump and he's going down with his knee pads, which is such a hack.
He goes, I'm going to fight fire with fire.
You know what?
I bet Californians wish you fought fire with the firefighters, but there was no water because you suck at your job.
So it's a warning to all you Democrats.
I'm telling you guys, this is not the guy.
They will undo every single thing that this guy has achieved for the past freaking year.
It's been one year, and look at all we've accomplished.
By the way, real quick on Medicaid, Gavin Newsom's policies bankrupted hospitals.
King Drew closed the emergency room in Los Angeles, which actually reduced the amount of services that were available because of the amount of trauma hospitals that were there because his position on Medicaid bankrupted them.
Point one.
Point two: it doesn't matter where you're from.
If you're vacationing from anywhere on planet Earth and you're stabbed, shot, or have a broken leg, you're going to get Medicaid treatment in an emergency room in America.
It's going to happen.
They're going to look at you and say, how are you going to pay for this?
And then they're going to figure it out later.
But if you've had a heart attack in a restaurant, so you're from France, you have a heart attack in a New York restaurant.
They're not going to ask you for your insurance card in the ambulance.
They're going to go get you treatment and say, you know what?
He's a French national.
And you'll be covered under Medicaid and stayed in New York.
And then they go back to get it.
So the whole Medicaid thing that he's playing games with, he bankrupted hospitals in the United States.
I want to show this next time.
But we're not a nation that turns people away.
When Trump is speaking here, I want to play this.
Watch Newsom's reaction, listening to every word the president is giving.
Go ahead, Rob.
I call him Gavin.
Have you guys seen this?
Newscomb.
When you think about it, he's kind of retarded.
People say he's gay the way he moves.
You know, he's always doing his weird little dance when he talks.
But I don't care about that.
I just think he's incompetent and retarded.
They say he likes to watch, remember?
His wife had sex with this.
No, this is.
That would have been the best.
You got me.
Okay, Rob, can you do me a favor?
Rob, play the actual one that took place because he's saying, Gavin's actually a nice guy.
Gavin's actually a nice guy.
And then watch this.
Yeah, that was funny.
Go ahead, Rob.
Gavin was here.
I used to get along so great with Gavin when I was president.
Gavin's a good guy.
Watch this.
Zoom in.
He needs to do it in a hard time.
Watch.
He's going to hold it.
He's going to hold it.
And he has to smile.
Can't hold himself too long.
Now, he ends up smiling, by the way.
He ends up smiling when he's seeing it.
So they know.
They know what's going on.
And listen, there's optics.
There's behind closed doors when you bump into them and you're talking to them.
So you have to realize they know this is their guy.
They know he's going to be running.
Adam, where are you at with this?
Well, here's the three words that scare me and that should scare the crap out of you.
President Gavin Newsom.
So I'm wondering if this is the biggest moment of Gavin Newsom's life.
Trump's World Stage Moment00:14:47
The World Economic Forum, Trump's addressing him in front of the world on the world stage.
And I'm wondering this.
Is this that Obama Trump moment that solidifies Gavin running?
I think we all know he's running.
Remember that moment when Obama called out Trump and he goes, at least I'm a president or at least I'm a Tutsu, whatever it was, that he looked at Donald Trump and Donald Trump, sitting with Melania, says, okay, buddy, 2015, I see you.
Could this be the moment that motivates Gavin Newsom to say, I'm ready for this?
That scares me, and it should scare you.
Number two, what is Gavin Newsom's biggest accomplishment?
I'll wait.
Fighting homelessness, fighting crime, the green news scam.
I don't know what it is, but I can't think of one.
I'll let you guys debate that.
But here's the deal: policies don't matter because most people, I would say 80% electorate, just vote on personality and persona.
And if you don't believe me, he has the look.
How many people that have run for president that are under six foot, that are overweight, that are not good looking, are in the dustbin of history that have not been the president?
He has the look with no accomplishments.
You know, they say when you play a game in the NFL, well, on paper, J.D. Van should win.
On paper, the Patriots should win.
But that's why you play the game.
He's going to play the game, and we're going to see what happens.
Rob, can you do me a favor?
Go to ChatGPT and type in, what is Gavin Newsom's biggest accomplishment?
Actually, watch what ChatGPT announces.
Okay.
What is Gavin Newsom's biggest accomplishment?
Climate leadership and clean energy.
Leadership.
Okay.
That's so healthcare expansion and innovation.
Housing and homelessness initiatives.
Homelessness.
Initiatives.
Not accomplishments.
So do you realize everything it talks about on accomplishments is initiative.
It's not specific.
Okay.
What is Trump's biggest accomplishment?
Boom, boom, boom.
What is he's going to have to have some things?
And by the way, if he goes against Rubio or if he goes against JD and specifically more Rubio, if they want to talk about what they have, this guy's resume is getting stacked on things that he's actually done on the highest level.
And yeah, Ruby.
I mean, JD even he made it in free market.
He competed a little bit.
Of course, there's some criticism on what happened there, but he's got that as well.
It's going to be interesting.
Vinny, I'll give you the final thoughts here before we move on.
Yeah, but my question is, because I want to know your opinion is from a tactical standpoint from a campaign, he's just going after Trump, okay?
Now, I want to know where is the shift going to come?
Because right now, Trump isn't running.
It's almost as if Gavin is training to fight John Jones, but he's actually going to wind up fighting George St. Pierre.
You're not fighting that guy.
So I'm very curious if, is this like on purpose, Pat?
Or is this a stupid, okay, Trump, evil, Hitler, knee pads, this?
Well, when is it going to turn into, okay, now it's Rubio and everything that I said about Trump, now I got to shift it.
I don't think you like the strategy.
Actually, by the way, I actually like the strategy a lot.
I like what he's doing.
Vinny, that's all he needs to do right now.
Yeah, I actually like the strategy.
That's all he needs to do.
Adam, I'm speaking.
Sir.
I actually like the strategy and what he's doing.
And I like that he's going after the top because if he goes after the top, everybody else is secondary.
If he goes after anybody below him, he is picking candidates.
He's going for the head.
He's going for the throne.
He's going for that.
And then everybody else has to come after him.
He's making them attack him.
It's a brilliant strategy that he's doing.
And all this stuff that's going on here, it's just more and more fire for his campaign for 2028.
I think Democrats are probably sitting around saying, yes, yes, get after him.
Do what you're doing.
This is awesome.
Rob, just on CNN, two days ago, okay, Scott Jennings, they got this guy who's on there making claims about President Trump and, you know, human trafficking and what is the sex trap, protecting the sex trafficking.
And then Scott Jennings looks at the host and says, are you really going to let this happen?
He says, I'm the host.
Let me do my job.
Rob, do you have that clip?
There's two clips I want to show with this.
One is this.
Then it's the Scott Jennings illegal immigrants.
Then it's the Chris Cuomo.
But let's start off with this one first.
Watch what happens here and how Scott Jennings tries very hard to prevent a lawsuit from happening.
Go ahead, Rob.
He's basically playing risk because people hurt his feelings or people ostensibly hurt his feelings.
So I am appreciative that the president is being transparent about this.
I would love it if he was more transparent about the human sex trafficking network that he was a part of, but you can't win them all.
Cameron's grateful that the president is being transparent about the Nobel Peace Prize and his desires for Greenland.
Scott, what do you think about that?
You're going to let that sit?
Are we going to claim here on CNN that the president is part of a global sex trafficking ring?
Well, I mean, we're going to talk about the FC file.
Scott, I will do the fact-checking.
I'm just going to go along.
Repeat what you said about the global sex trafficking ring.
That Donald Trump was provably very involved with it.
Okay.
We'll get to that later.
I mean, Donald Trump has never been charged with any crimes in relation to Jeffrey Epstein.
Yeah, but let's be serious.
Satisfied?
Pause it so we can redeposit.
I would like to retract my comments from CNN last night and truly apologize.
Donald Trump was obviously not involved with a giant international child sex trafficking rink where women and children were systematically raped by elites.
I said that by accident and didn't mean it.
You said it twice.
Doubled down.
You said it twice.
And by the way, Scott Jennings is, to me, the CEO of CNN because he keeps protecting these guys.
And he's sitting there saying, what the hell are you talking about?
Rob, if you can go to the illegal immigrant comment that he defends first, because the lady's like, stop saying illegal immigrants.
Okay.
Not this one.
Go to Scott Jennings' clip first.
So then there's another clip with Scott Jennings is talking to this one lady.
And this lady, I believe, keeps saying, stop using the phrase illegal immigrant.
Is it a lady or is it a guy?
It's about illegal immigrants.
It says lady.
He's pretty.
Go ahead, Sleio.
You don't get to say the word illegal anymore.
You have the tenorists.
Who are you to tell me what I can and cancer?
I've never met you, brother.
I can say whatever I want.
They're illegal aliens, and that's what the law calls them, illegal aliens.
That's what I'm going to call them.
As for our conversation, we have to.
Go to the beginning because I didn't hear what he said at the beginning.
What did the other guy say at the beginning?
Press it.
You don't get to say the word illegals anymore.
You have the taurus.
Who are you to tell me what I can and can't?
I've never met you, brother.
I can say whatever I want.
They're illegal aliens.
And that's what the laws get to say.
You don't have to illegal immigrants anymore.
Illegal aliens anymore.
So now here's Chris Crowder.
Unpack that pass.
You don't get to.
As if we've decided what you can say.
By the way, I actually really want to know who this kid is.
Who are you?
Go ahead.
Here's Chris.
You know who he is?
No.
He was a survivor of the Parkland shooting.
He's like a David Hogg.
He makes David Hogg look masculine.
Okay, I got it.
Go ahead.
Here's Chris.
You see this clip of Scott Jennings saying, How are you going to enforce it?
How are you going to force me not saying the word illegals anymore?
How are you going to do that?
I don't say illegals anymore because ICE is directly targeting legal citizens of this country.
And how are you going to enforce your edict on me just out of curiosity?
Listen, I understand.
Just listen to his point about illegal.
What are you, bully now?
What are you, tough guy?
Because you're talking to this kid who happens to be right, calling people illegals.
They're called illegal aliens in the law.
And you know what?
A long time ago, Republicans and Democrats switched to undocumented.
Why?
Because it seemed inhuman.
That's why.
They changed the vernacular, and you know it.
But that's not the point.
The point is, how are you going to do it?
What are you going to do?
What are you?
You're a tough guy now, huh?
I thought you were just supposed to be the simpering, but, you know, open to conversation right there.
Course, what do you think about this?
Well, first of all, I don't know what Chris was doing before he made this video.
His hair is insane.
He's sweating.
I don't know where all that.
That testosterone is out.
But by the way, Chris, with all due respect, he's one of the guys that said, when it comes to illegals, he said illegals, immigrants murdering Americans was an artificial problem.
So I don't know where the anger comes from.
Pretty sure it has something to do with CNN and how Scott Jennings is literally.
You call him the CEO.
He is the star of CNN.
He's the only person that makes it watchable.
I have my own opinion.
I wish he wasn't on there because I don't want to give them any viewership or anybody for them to keep pushing their propaganda.
That's my opinion.
But I think this has layers of just bitterness towards CNN because he's the star of CNN.
The only reason you could even watch anything of Abby Phil, he made CNN great again.
I can't even believe I'm saying that right now.
I love Chris Cuomo like a big brother.
Brother, you're dead wrong on this because this is all about feelings.
And I'll tell you when you lost your right to for anyone to care about feelings of this vernacular, when you let tens of millions of people in the country under Biden, facts don't care about your feelings.
Tom Holman said at least 10 million, and Trump says it could be more.
Once that happened, sorry, guys, feelings are out the window.
Illegal aliens, undocumented migrants, whatever you want to call them, they're in the country illegally.
That's it.
Efrem, where do you stand with this?
Same.
It's just the words of what the facts are that you are here illegally, whether illegal aliens or undocumented.
It means the same.
So why get worked up over a word?
What is it really, though?
Is it really like so?
Illegal alien, you're illegally here, alien.
That's the undocumented.
What's the it's making Pat's softening the language?
It's softening the language like how America has done throughout the past.
It's like they take all these words that are exactly the definition.
You broke the law.
You illegally came here, Pat.
It's about feelings.
You made a great point.
It's undocumented.
No, no, no.
You're here illegally.
It's like when they change the word shell shock.
They change all these words to soften language to make everybody calm.
Yeah, it's this whole thing that's happened over the last 15 years.
It's called politically correct speech in America.
And you can dive into it.
And this is, and it comes from the left.
Where it comes from the left is things like this.
They actually pushed, and you can go look at this three years ago in the middle of COVID.
They didn't want news media folks to use the word pedophile, Pat.
You know what they were proposing?
Minor attracted person.
Remember this?
They wanted to call them minor attracted persons because that way it doesn't sound so bad.
And we have to have feelings.
These are the same people that want to decriminalize what the criminals do.
So they also want to use politically correct words to make the criminals who you want to decriminalize not sound so bad.
And I don't speak to Chris's opinion on bullying or not.
I'll leave him to talk to Scott Jennings about that.
But what Chris is talking about, and Chris, I respect you, but you're kind of going back to this politically correct speech.
They are illegal aliens.
And yes, everyone didn't agree to change the vernacular.
Politically correct folks on the Republican and Democrat side.
And that's why we had the Tea Party because not all Republicans agree.
That's why I have MAGA because not all Republicans agree.
You know, we're saying, okay, maybe we'll go undocumented immigrant.
But wait a minute.
Undocumented means technically, if I'm pulled over by the police and I'm speeding, I'm doing 75 on I-95.
Okay, they pull me over.
I don't have my driver's license.
Technically, Pat, I'm an undocumented speeder.
This guy was speeding, but he has no documentation.
And what do you do?
So to say undocumented person, they almost wanted to create a sense that they're potentially legal.
It's all about the politically correct speech.
And guess what?
Many people, including me, have had enough of it.
Let's just call it what it is.
I looked it up.
Minor attracted person.
Yeah, Tom, that was a great one.
And I can't show any videos, Robbie, because it was George Carlin, but he said we've gone into this soft language.
God rest the soul, my favorite comedian.
He goes, we went from shell shock to, which is the word, shell shock because of the war, to post-traumatic stress disorder.
We went from killing civilians, change it to collateral damage, lying, misinformation, disinformation.
You're not fat.
It's body positive.
Everything.
Dead soldiers became fallen heroes.
It's softening the language, Pat, but we have to call it what it is and keep on that.
You're illegal, period.
End of story.
Sir, those are all great examples, but I'll give you the primary example.
They made a documentary called What is a Woman?
And they couldn't define it.
We played a clip last week of Josh Hawley asking whatever fraud doctor, can men get pregnant?
Well, you have to understand, can men get pregnant?
Pat, how many times did they repeat that question?
11.
11 times.
Josh Hollywood.
So all these birthing persons or these menstruating persons, they're women.
And just like these soft words, what did Biden call the illegal immigrants?
Newcomers.
Come on, guys.
We're newcomers as if they're Christopher Columbus finding the new world.
To me, it's all soft, feminine language to make people feel warm and fuzzy and not addressing the real problem.
So Kevin Newsom was an adulterer in that instance.
He was a newcomer.
Oh, whoa.
Okay, Tom.
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Yes.
So funny, Tom, but inappropriate.
We'll cross the line afterwards.
Okay, Greenland.
Let's talk about Greenland.
Trump announces framework for Greenland deal.
Won't say if U.S. ownership still needed.
Okay, so check this out when they're going through this.
The position changed a few times at Davos, okay?
But here's a president with a tweet.
Based upon a very productive meeting I had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Ruddy, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic region.
This solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America and all NATO nations based upon this understanding.
I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on February 1st.
Additional discussions are being held concerning the Golden Dome as it pertained to Greenland.
Further information will be made available as discussion progresses, and he's got the rest that's there.
This was a topic of discussion, Rob.
I don't know what clips you have on this from Davos.
There was multiple, multiple conversations.
So, you know, is this him talking about it?
This is him explaining why we need Greenland because of what happened in World War II.
Go ahead, Rob.
Go ahead.
We saw this in World War II when Denmark fell to Germany after just six hours of fighting and was totally unable to defend either itself or Greenland.
So the United States was then compelled.
We did it.
We felt an obligation to do it.
To send our own forces to hold the Greenland territory and hold it, we did at great cost and expense.
They didn't have a chance of getting on it, and they tried.
Denmark knows that.
We literally set up bases on Greenland for Denmark.
We fought for Denmark.
We weren't fighting for anyone else.
We were fighting to save it for Denmark.
Big, beautiful piece of ice.
It's hard to call it land.
It's a big piece of ice.
But we saved Greenland and successfully prevented our enemies from gaining a foothold in our hemisphere.
So we did it for ourselves also.
And then after the war, which we won, we won it big.
Without us, right now, you'd all be speaking German and a little Japanese, perhaps.
Even though they're in that word.
After the war, we gave Greenland back to Denmark.
How stupid were we to do that?
But we did it.
But we gave it back.
But how ungrateful are they now?
So now our country and the world face much greater risks than it did ever before because of missiles, because of nuclear, because of weapons of warfare that I can't.
Stop it right there.
Okay, Tom, I'm going to come to you first.
Your thoughts on this and the advancement they're making.
So he's making a very good point.
And by the way, I've said this before.
I'm going to say it again.
The reason you're not hearing hard criticism from the Department of Defense in Germany and in the UK, because those are anchors of NATO and they understand what's needed.
And by the way, if you take a look at a map, and you look where Finland is, Murmansk is right next door to the Finland border.
And that is where the USSR, you know, built the base.
Now we know it as Russia.
But when the Soviet Union and everything was there, these things were built.
Murmansk is where all of the nuclear subs are.
And it's literally, literally less than 100 miles from the Finland border there.
And so you up at the Arctic Circle.
So there is a need, a deep, deep need for Greenland to be positioned and equipped as a strategic defense source.
And if you also just look at the map of Greenland, when you talk about a dome for North America, and by the way, NORAD protects Canada, Canada and its 2.3 trillion GDP, which is less than half of California.
Greenland is an important piece of the North American dome against Russian missiles.
And by the way, if you look at the east coast right by Iceland, look how well that's positioned to help provide defense of missiles and navy to northern Atlantic area.
You know, northern Atlantic as in the Northern Atlantic Treaty Organization known as NATO.
This is strategic.
And I think that what people need to understand, it's not about the minerals.
Although they just said that they'd be happy to do a mineral deal yesterday, they said it.
There's no argument on that now.
It is strategic for defense.
And every time there's naval exercises up there, Denmark doesn't have the money to pay for it.
So Denmark, you know what?
The days of colonialism are over.
No one's going to militarily take this.
We need a deal done for the defense of our hemisphere and to support NATO.
And Trump as a leader is walking through this mosh pit of criticism from people that are politicizing it and they're not paying attention to where Russia is and the strategic importance of defending the West.
Vinny.
Well, I sent Rob, can you put up that chart I sent you on Slack?
Look at, like, this is where Greenland is.
It's like the crossroads of North America, Europe, and the Arctic.
Tom, you made a great point.
They do have, like, look at where the Russia bases are.
There's a Petufik space base right there.
This is, and mother, the melting ice is opening the shorter Asia-Europe shipping routes.
So it's boosting the region's military and economic importance.
But look, it's missile early warning systems.
You nailed it.
It's about deterrence.
It's about supply chain security.
And listen, I want a president that's going on offense.
We're not playing defense.
He's not sitting around trolling his thumbs.
I absolutely love the move.
And when you saw that chart that you did earlier, how big of a gap having that?
And I love that the news is making like we're going to come in, we're going to invade and take over.
No, it's a deal.
We need you.
You're going to make money.
So I think it has to happen.
That chart says it all.
And by the way, that little box there, you've got a great chart you pulled up, Vinny.
Thank you for doing this.
Juke, Greenland, Iceland, UK gap.
That is incredibly strategic because that's where the nuke subs come and go.
Weird.
And that first dot on the right-hand side where that arrow comes down, that is Finland-Russia border, and that's Murmansk.
And that is the equivalent of their Groton, Connecticut, because that's where we launch all of our nuclear subs from.
Adam.
Yeah, Trump's going to take Greenland.
That's all I got to say.
I don't know how he's going to do it.
I don't know when he's going to do it.
I don't know what's going to happen.
But much like the Godfather movie, we're going to make him an offer they can't refuse.
They're not going to refuse this.
How many people live in Greenland?
56,000?
That's an NFL Sunday football stadium just emptying out with footballs and pads and just taking over Greenland.
Nobody's scared of Greenland.
By the way, everyone now has an opinion on Greenland.
Trump does these things and makes people, oh, why would we do Greenland?
You've never thought of Greenland.
You never heard of Greenland.
Tell me one artist in Greenland.
Tell me that one movie.
Tell me one cultural phenomenon that's nobody knows about Greenland.
Now, if Trump and grown-ups are saying, we need this land for minerals, for protection, for defense, for blocking China and blocking Russia, we're going to take Greenland.
That's it.
Efren, do you have any opinions on this?
Yeah, so I agree with Vinny.
We now have a president that's actually looking ahead, decades ahead, versus just the next four-year terms, right?
So I love what he's doing.
And like Adam said, if he didn't mention Greenland, no one else would be talking about Greenland.
Yeah.
Yeah, I love it.
And I love the fact that, you know, yesterday he's like, oh, you know what?
Yeah, you know, so since we're part of NATO, this invasion that happened at our border, did you guys come and help us out?
When everything that's going on with us, did you guys come and support us for anything?
Maybe we should have put NATO to the test, invoke Article 5, and force NATO to come here and protect our southern border from further invasion of illegal immigrants, thus freeing up a large number of border patrol agents for other tasks.
Maybe we should have.
You don't want to do that?
Oh, maybe we should leave NATO.
Even, you know, there was some talks about what would happen if U.S. left NATO.
And they're sitting around saying, no, you can't do that.
We need you to protect us.
There was the Finland leader is being asked about if Europe can defend itself without America.
Look at the answer, folks.
And watch how quickly he changes his position.
Rob, did we show this on?
We haven't shown this yet.
Watch this.
It's comical what he says 11 minutes later.
Go ahead, Rob.
First, it's a direct answer to the question of this panel.
Can Europe defend itself?
My answer is unequivocally yes.
Without the Americans.
Without the Americans.
I mean, how?
Look.
But you're relying on them for these key elements.
You've said earlier that Europe can defend itself without the Americans.
If it comes down...
Not exactly.
That's not a quote.
Yes, it is.
More or less.
More or less.
We'll go back to the transcript.
Yeah, let's finish this one now.
More or less.
More or less.
I love journalists.
You don't need journalists.
Can you imagine if somebody texted him and says, hey, just so you know, we're screwed if America doesn't protect us.
Change your tone, ASAP, right?
So, I mean, look, I love the fact that he went in.
He gave his message.
He's even looking to his left on one of the speeches he gave.
He says, you know, it's funny.
You know, I look at these guys here.
Every once in a while, there's two or three I don't like.
But it's funny, and in this list, I like everybody.
Do you have that clip, Rob, when he's looking at everybody on the world leaders and he's just kind of smiling?
And you see the leader of Azerbaijan there.
You see the leader of Armenia there.
You see all these presidents and prime ministers are now supportive of him.
Larry Fink brought him up.
You know, it's a very, very different environment that is taking place today.
I think that's the one, Rob, if I'm not mistaken.
Go ahead, Rob.
Great.
They're friends of mine.
I think, let me see.
Yeah, every one of them is a friend of mine.
A couple, let's see, a couple I like.
A couple I don't like.
I like, actually, this group, I like every single one of them.
Can you believe it?
Usually I have about two or three that I can't stand.
Usually I have two or three that I don't like.
I don't find them up here.
I like every one of these people.
Now they're good people.
They're great leaders.
And the Board of Peace is composed of.
So this leads to the Border Peace.
And then this morning, he tweets something to Canada.
Rob, I don't know if you have that one or not.
While this is going on, he comes out and he says, hey, Canada, after the message he gave, Carney gave about America, not too complimentary.
He says, Dear Prime Minister Carney, please let this letter serve to present that the Board of Peace has withdrawn its invitation to you regarding Canada's joining what will be the most prestigious board of leaders ever assembled at any time.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Tom, your thoughts on this?
Well, you know, I don't understand what Carney was trying to accomplish with this criticism.
I don't understand what he was trying to negotiate.
I mean, honestly, you can look at the trade deals.
You can look at, you know, sons and daughters of NAFTA and things to be done.
But Pat, I honestly don't know what Carney was trying to accomplish other than making a political speech to look strong against Trump for the liberal mob, the dozens of them in Canada that are supporting him.
I really think that he was just kind of playing.
There used to be an old thing where they would say, hey, you know, you're really not making any sense.
You're preaching to the choir, meaning that you're not converting anybody in the church.
You're not sending a message of peace and salvation out.
You've really turned around and you're just preaching to the choir.
And I feel like that's what Carney did.
He was just sort of talking to himself into the echo chamber and trying to look tough on Trump.
$2.3 trillion GDP versus $31 trillion.
And the $31 trillion is providing defense and economic support and all the things we do.
It's not that we don't have disagreements between the countries, but I don't know what Carney was trying to do.
And now Trump comes back and says, all right, well, sorry you feel that way.
I don't need you on the Board of Peace.
Yeah.
So by the way, when I'm looking at the list that will join the board, you got Argentina, Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, Bulgaria, Egypt, Hungary, Indonesia, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Morocco, Mongolia, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, UAE, Uzbekistan, Vietnam.
Countries that will not join the board, at least for now.
France, Norway, Slovenia, Sweden, UK, Keir Starmer came out and said, we will not be joining the Border Peace.
Rob, I don't know if you have that.
He almost tripped and fell on his face.
I don't know if you guys saw that clip or not.
Wouldn't follow him.
But if you have the one that he's not going to be joining, countries that have been invited but remain non-committal.
Cambodia, China, Croatia, Cyprus, Germany, Greece, India, Italy, European Union executive arm, Paraguay, Russia, Singapore, Thailand, Ukraine.
He's invited almost everybody, okay?
He's invited almost everybody.
Adam, your thoughts on why this happened with Canada.
So everyone wants to look tough until they get into the ring with a real tough guy.
You know, what's the famous quote from Mike Tyson?
Everyone's got a plan until you get punched in the mouth.
In my opinion, the thing that happened with Maduro when we came in out of nowhere, boom, boom, boom, within an hour, we got your leader, got your hat.
Shout out to Jake Paul.
And all of a sudden, the rest of the world goes, oh, wow.
The president of Colombia, Petro, who's talking trash about Trump, all of a sudden he's like, Hey, sorry, mi voya la gasa de White house.
I'm going to come visit you.
Kier Starmer acts real tough in the UK.
All of a sudden, hello, President Trump.
Here's the greatest gift I could have ever given anybody.
So everyone gets real tough when they're trying to look tough in front of their constituents to the people back home.
But when they're sitting in a room with the real boss, with a real G, all of a sudden they're sitting up straight, they're using a proper accent, and they're playing very nice.
The last thing I'll say is this: Larry Fink, who's the CEO of BlackRock, arguably one of the top two or three most powerful men in the world economically.
He goes, guys, can we get more seats at the World Economic Forum?
We have no more seats left.
It's a packed house because, quote unquote, the most important leader in the world is about to speak.
That's how you know what's going on.
Don't listen to these weak, woke, weird leaders.
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Listen to people, follow the money, listen to people like Larry Fick.
Here's Kier Starmer, by the way.
If you want to play the Kier Starmer clip, Rob, of him being asked about it, here's Kier Starmer from the UK.
Go ahead.
Putin being on a board of peace.
He is waging war on a European country.
And as we said just before they're raining down bombs on Ukraine, it's minus 20.
60% of the energy in Kiev is gone.
People are having put tents up in their living rooms to keep warm.
And we mustn't let the events of the last week or so deflect from the focus.
We need to work with the Americans allies and others.
But also to defend and support Ukraine in a conflict which is not of their making.
Putin being on a board.
Yeah, I mean, look, it's as this is happening.
The question is: you say what you want to say.
How long can you keep that position?
You know, you can act tough and say whatever you want.
Is it leading to diplomacy?
Are your people hurting for it?
Okay.
Is Canada hurting for the positions they take in with Trump?
I don't know.
Time will tell.
But what seems to be a common pattern is they go and then they come back.
They go and then they come back.
That seems to be a common pattern on what's happening here.
And we'll see this obviously as stories updates even more about this.
We'll see more on what moves going to be taking place.
Now, in regards to Iran, a couple of things happened with Iran.
Yesterday, a picture was going viral all over the place of Reza Palavi seen with Korea Marina Machado.
Rob, if we can zoom in on the tweet so I can read the tweet as well.
I don't know if you can do that.
There you go.
I had the pleasure of meeting Reza Palavi.
We exchanged insights on respective struggles and aligned our efforts.
Shared purpose, the liberation of Iran and Venezuela.
I express my deep admiration for the Iranian people as authoritarian regime deepens, their criminal cooperation.
Those of us who stand for freedom, the alliance of Caracas and Tehran has turned Venezuela into an epicenter of Iranian influence, jeopardizing the security of the entire Western hemisphere.
The survival of these regimes is not only a tragedy for our citizens who overwhelmingly, at least if you're going to use Chat GBT, clean it up.
I know.
By using Venezuela as a primary platform, the Iranian regime fuels instability, terrorism, and transnational criminal networks that expand, extend far beyond our networks, a free Iran and a free Venezuela, more than just goals.
Okay, so you see this picture.
I was like, oh my God, look what's going on.
Why are they together?
It's the right people to be together.
They have a lot in common.
The difference is, Mario Corina Machado lives in Venezuela.
She's there every day.
She's been there her entire life, pretty much.
She's been involved there.
She's with her people.
Reza Pallabi has been outside for 48 years independently.
He's not been in Iran.
She is.
However, both of them have a lot in common.
They're countries.
You know, the leader of Iran was replaced Maduro, which is no longer there.
He's in New York or wherever he's at now at this place.
He could be in DC or in New York.
You know, where the moment Maduro fell, the president didn't come in and automatically give it to Edmundo Gonzalez or Maria Karina Machado.
It's like, no, let's just do another election, see what happens.
Now, on the streets, everybody is saying, well, something's about to happen to Khamenei.
There's reports that Lazard CEO, Peter Orzog, predicts something big that happens in Iran over the next few days.
And by the way, this is a story from yesterday.
Rob, is this the clip of him talking about it?
Go forward.
I think it's very likely that over the next few days, there will be something that happens in Iran.
It will be something big, yes.
Why do you think that?
Well, from a variety of different sources, indirect information.
And also, to your point, I think it's entirely possible the United States was waiting for the carriers to arrive.
Was waiting for them for the carriers to arrive.
And that this is just so that the Greenland story is head fake.
I don't know about head fake, but it has the effect of intent.
And that would mean what?
How does that play out if that's actually the case?
Then the big question becomes, can you actually do regime change through effectively a bombing campaign?
And I don't think we have any history in which that's effective, but we'll see.
It depends what the objective of what happens is.
If it's to take out the ballistic missiles, that can be successful.
If it's regime change, you know, that's got a more checkered history.
Okay, so now you watch this and watch what happens next.
A couple stories.
The president says the following.
He says, Iran claims, Trump claims Iran does not want to talk, does want to talk, and will talk as he rolls out border peace.
Is this it, Rob?
It's a short clip, but yes.
Go forward.
And Iran does want to talk, and we'll talk.
That's it.
That's a long clip, Rob.
That is the shortest clip we've ever put up.
That was phenomenal, right?
But he commented about this in passing at Davos, establishing an international border peace and overseas ceasefire between Israel and Hamas and the Gaza Strip.
And then while this is going on, Iran protests numbers are looking at 20,000 plus.
Some reports are saying 30,000.
Some have even said 50,000.
The lowest number you read everywhere is around 3,500 to 4,500 killings.
I've seen the videos, the videos that are being sent.
Some of them were sent to me this morning.
Absolutely devastating, tragic to even take a look at.
Number of people reported killed in Iran's protest cross-central surge with one UN special reporter saying the total could be around 20,000 U.S.-based human rights activists.
News agency said it's verified 5,002 deaths and is reviewing a further 9,787.
While more than 26,000 people have been arrested, Iranian authorities reported 3,117 deaths and of which 2,427 are considered innocent, including members of the security forces, but doesn't provide a breakdown to refer to any civilians.
And by the way, this is what they had to say yesterday.
Iran warns Trump not to take action against the supreme leader, Khamenei.
Rob, if you want to play this clip, go forward.
Trump's military reminds me of Hitler that got stuck in Russia.
I wonder where he got that rhythm.
I don't want a long war.
I will carry out one short attack.
You would ask for another ceasefire?
Do you think Iran would agree to that?
We advise you to pull back, do not advance any further.
This is indeed a serious matter, but our armed forces are ready.
Not only do we have our finger on the trigger, the bullet is already chambered.
Every night to Mr. Trump dreams of Iran's oil.
Okay, so how do you process that?
Because Tucker said the other day, he said he believes, I think, Rob, if you want to find this tweet, Tucker said he believes the Middle East would be safer.
I'm paraphrasing.
We can validate that if Iran had nuclear weapons, right?
I think he said that.
Again, right there, Rob, go above it.
Go above with the Iranian flag.
No, no, go a little low, Rob.
Right there.
Right in front of you.
Right there.
Rob, right above it, Rob.
Yeah, that one.
No, no, right, right there.
That one right there.
Yeah, there you go.
Is that what it's saying, Rob?
There you go.
Tucker Carlson says a nuclear-armed Iran could deter attacks, limit U.S. and Israeli intervention, and reduce pressure on Tehran, potentially stabilizing the region and making war or regime change less likely.
Vinny, do you agree?
Just so I'm because I'm not geopolitically versed that much, is he talking about the same Iran that says death to America?
Yes.
Could just make sure.
Is that the okay?
I absolutely disagree with him 1,000%.
And going back to the who was the CEO of what was it?
Rob, which one is this from?
This is from the Tucker Carlson Network.
This is.
Okay.
Thank you for finding this.
So could the Iranians obtaining the bomb wind up being a good thing?
Whether anyone in the foreign policy establishment admits that North Korea's nuclearization has undeniably stabilized the Korean Peninsula, the region has seen no wars, coups, or interventionalists, forced regime changes since 06.
Would Iran becoming a nuclear power have the same effect on its region?
Could it finally prompt America to leave the area alone and incentivize Israel to drop a stated goal of continuing control in the Gaza Strip and weak the West Bank?
Would it make the Iranian government less oppressive?
Because it wouldn't have to worry about the West's constant decapitation ambitions.
Vinny, we're talking about a regime in a country that currently, and by the way, obviously you're not going to believe their numbers.
Over 20,000 civilians, they're not getting killed because they're writing each other.
The government is shooting and killing people protesting because they have had enough.
We didn't come in there.
Whatever stupid story you heard of other countries coming in and starting this revolution, it became a breaking point for these people.
Okay, they're starving.
They are pissed off and they want change.
Okay.
And giving that government nuclear weapons.
And I'm not saying we're the perfect freaking government in the world, but guess what?
We're keeping things pretty damn safe around the world.
So and by the way, when that guy was talking about, I think something's going to happen the next couple of days, I do agree that that might be one of the tactics.
Tom, not the Greenland.
Greenland thing was going to happen regardless.
But our ships are getting into place to do something.
But at the end of the day, with this regime change, everybody's talking about who's going to be the change.
Who's going to be the guy?
Who?
Who?
It's not going to be Rezaf Hall Avi.
I'm sorry to all the people out there that are going to get pissed off and furious.
He's staying in Washington with his wife and his kids.
He's not going to go there and be the freaking leader that they're begging him to be.
So all those people that are going to make these videos sitting in their cars getting mad at you and getting mad at me.
He's not the guy.
Once you realize that, then they could shift their focus, Pat, and find someone.
There has to be somebody in that group that's willing to step up and say, hey, I'll do it.
Because he's not going to do it.
So, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know the next couple days that they're going to do something.
But to say that Iran, yeah, let's give the people that want to kill us nuclear weapons.
Okay, great idea.
Tom, where are you at with this?
So they're not rational.
What I just looked up here is a simple piece of history that I think Tucker may be thinking about, but I'll tell you something.
This is not a rational state.
India and Pakistan, they go way back, right?
With each other.
Of course.
India conducted peaceful nuclear explosion in 74.
However, it then was 26 years later on May 11th and 13th, 1998, declaring itself a nuclear armed state.
On May 28th, 1998, in the Shakai Hills, Pakistan conducted a nuclear test and said, we now are a nuclear club in response to it.
When is the last time nuclear and Pakistan have had anything more than a border skirmish?
Small arms fire, right?
They haven't.
Because they're both nuclear powers.
And it's like, I got it, you got it.
Now, guess what?
If we don't both want to get it, then neither one of us should push the button.
Those are rational states.
You know what I mean, Pat?
Those are rational states that now both had the big gun.
I don't think the Islamic regime is a rational state.
You know, India was not suicidal against Pakistan.
Pakistan was not suicidal against India.
Whereas when you get to the radical Islam states, they are suicidal when they come to their objectives.
And I do not think it would stabilize the region.
I think you're kind of giving the gun to a crazy man.
Oh, well, let's hope he behaves like all the other nations that have become nuclear powers and kind of just say, hey, I got the bomb too, man.
Don't mess with me casually.
That's not the way this is working out.
Adam.
I love when Tucker Carlson talks because the more and more he talks, it makes normal, rational people seem brilliant.
Because the stuff he says, you're like, what?
What is he?
Did he really just say he wants Iran to have nuclear weapons?
The regime that's killing their own people he's advocating?
This doesn't make sense.
So Tucker, please keep talking.
Number two, that photo op with Maria Carina Machado and Reza Pahlavi, if we can pull that up real quick.
That's a cute photo op.
That's great.
It's going nowhere.
I don't think either of them are going to be the leaders of their prospective countries.
You know, we talk about movies, right?
Sinners, Sinners is now the number one most nominated movie.
Not all countries are the same.
If you were going to give Venezuela a rating in terms of how bad they are as a country, how bad they are to their people, they are rated R. Iran?
The Islamic Republic of Iran?
Triple X.
The worst of the worst of the worst of the worst.
And Tucker wants to give them nuclear weapons?
Not on my watch.
Last point.
And unfortunately, this is not going to be good news, in my opinion, to people who want to see the Islamic regime fall.
I don't believe anything's going to happen until the supreme leader meets the supreme maker.
Because while that guy's in power, he runs the army, he runs the IRGC, right?
And they're willing to die for him.
And they're willing to protect their Sharia law.
Question for you.
Question for you.
Yes, sir.
And question for all you guys.
And I'm just curious to know what you would say about this.
By the way, if you pull up the Calci report you found Rob about Ali Khamenei out as a supreme leader.
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If you go back, and by the way, we're talking about almost $10 million.
Holy moly.
This is a real number.
Look what it was on January 8th of him falling and being out.
75% was January 8th.
What's January 8th?
You're talking two weeks ago.
Two weeks.
He was at 75%.
He's at 45% today.
That's when the riots exist.
It's gone down.
It's gone down.
It settled down.
And by the way, that is before September 26th, September 1st, 2026, which is eight months from now, seven months from now.
Then it goes July 1st, all this other stuff.
So the momentum of that has been gone.
Now, keep this in mind.
We could be getting closer and closer and closer.
And then all of a sudden, Trump doesn't attack and the world is like, well, he backed out.
He didn't do anything.
The man is unpredictable and fluid and they'll make the decisions.
If there's one thing we've noticed with a pattern, they've known since August they were going to be attacking Venezuela and the way they were going to be doing it.
They've been planning.
Delta's been planning it since August.
It's not a new thing that they weren't doing.
So all the other stuff.
And I even had somebody that was on the military side told me the other day that, you know, Maduro could have even agreed to a deal for this to happen as long as he doesn't look like he escaped.
Hey, just come and get me safely.
I'm going to do this, do this, do that.
And you guys can come at this time and I'm going to be able to leave.
There's many different speculations of what happened there.
But going back to the conversation with Iran getting nuclear weapon.
Question for you.
If you had the power to decide this, would you be okay with Iran getting nuclear weapon, the government, as long as its citizen can have firearms and they have Second Amendment?
Or are those two different separate issues?
Iran gets nuclear weapon, but their people can have M16s, M4, guns, you know, they have their own, be able to protect themselves.
So if the government regime, the Hezbollahs, want to come in and destroy their lives, they can do it because now they're armed.
Would you entertain that idea?
If the leadership is who?
Staying as Khomeini?
No.
Don't forget about the leadership.
Oh, no, no, no, because I don't think that the decision to launch and go there would have anything to do with Second Amendment because what are they going to do?
If the government right now, our government wanted to go all-out attack, well, you can't.
I worked at a nuclear missile base.
You can't get to them.
They're in a secure bunker.
Even the missile ears are hidden away underneath.
You're not going to get to them.
So I don't think it's two separate.
No correlation.
No correlation because you're not going to stop the people that are actually pushing the buttons to launch.
Period.
Time.
What do you think?
I wouldn't make that trade.
Would I like to see the citizens of Iran armed?
And would I think that the protests would change overnight?
Yeah, I do.
But I wouldn't trade both because the regime is crazy.
You know, the regime is just.
Their mission, their instability.
I have a hard time.
I'd like to know what you think.
I didn't grow up there.
I just look at it from the outside and I'm like, I just don't trust the crazy man with the weapon.
I think you guys are right, and I think I'm with you because one is out.
So, even if the U.S. government wanted to attack whoever else, they don't, who cares if we have guns?
They can go attack anybody if they wanted to.
But would I love Iranian people to have Second Amendment?
For sure.
It would be interesting.
Keep this in mind as well.
Just because an idea works in America doesn't mean that idea is going to work in a different place.
You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes we always think like it's because culturally, when you're raised in a certain way and you're more emotional.
You know, yesterday we're having dinner and I talked to you guys about a certain statistic study we've been doing with our team.
The world population of Christians is 32%.
The world population of Muslims is 24.9%.
Follow these numbers here.
32% U.S., the world Christian population.
24.9% is Muslim.
Let's say 25%.
Jews are 0.2% of the population.
I want to say Hindus are 15% of the population, and you got Buddhists that are a percentage of the population.
So 32, 25.
Of the world's billionaire population, U.S. Christians are 33%.
Muslims are 7%.
The world's population of millionaires, Christians, 56%.
Muslims, 6%.
Jews, 0.2% of the world population, 19% of billionaires.
Okay?
And they're like another 2% of millionaires is what they got, right?
What does that tell you?
What does a Christian nation do?
It typically gets people to become rich and own and have equity.
And what happens when you own things?
What happens when you own a house?
You care more.
What happens when you own a business?
What happens when you have equity?
What happens when you vest it?
What is the word vested?
Like, you know, when they say, I am fully vested with my shares.
But what does fully vested mean?
Forget about business.
It means you're what?
I'm all in.
You're fully committed.
I'm all in.
So a society who is not fully vested, they have nothing to lose.
They're willing to turn and burn anything down.
Why?
Because they have nothing to lose.
Does that make sense?
So to me, I don't know about the Second Amendment in Iran yet.
Until the economy does better, until people have more equity, until people are doing better, then you could feel comfortable with people having, you know, weapons and Second Amendment because they don't have a lot to lose.
The mentality is a very different mentality when talking about this.
Adam.
Well, I'll give you some examples.
Look at North Korea holding the world hostage.
Their citizens don't have food, much less guns.
So do we want a regime that's despotic and autocratic having nuclear weapons?
No way, Jose.
But not all countries are the same.
You talk about Christian countries versus Islamic countries or Arab countries.
Here's some countries where the citizens have guns, but the leaders don't have nuclear weapons.
Ready?
Switzerland, Finland, the Czech Republic, Canada.
They seem to be doing okay, with the exception of that Finnish leader who thinks he's tougher than Trump.
Here are the countries that don't have nuclear weapons, but their citizens have guns.
Let me know if you'd want to live in these countries.
Yemen, Afghanistan, Somalia.
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Shout out to Minnesota, Iraq, Libya, Syria.
So not all countries are the same.
So no, I don't want Iran having nuclear weapons, and I would love to see their citizens have the Second Amendment.
But unfortunately, the Supreme Leader is stopping them from doing anything.
Yeah, we'll see.
We'll see what happens here.
Let me get to this next story.
Vinny, I know you want to comment on this.
Baron Trump reportedly saved a woman's life after witnessing violent assault on FaceTime call.
Rob, if you want, is this the story there?
It is Fox News covering it.
Go for it.
Baron Trump reportedly saving a woman's life after witnessing her assault on FaceTime.
A friend of his telling a UK court that the first son called police after she was attacked by her ex-boyfriend, saying, Quote, I just got a call from a girl I know.
She's getting beaten up.
It's really an emergency.
Please, I got a call from her with a guy beating her up.
The woman reportedly claims her former partner was jealous of her friendship with the first son.
So then he does what, Vinny?
Oh, I mean, think about it.
The argument, he's FaceTiming her.
He shows up.
Like, it's no joke.
Like, he's beating her.
And they're, I don't want to say the R word, but it's there.
And you have to give this kid, like, I can't call him a kid anymore, brother.
He's an adult.
He doesn't freeze up.
He doesn't hang up.
He calls emergency services from here to call them to give her the address to say what's happening and focus enough to like everybody to the cops there respond.
And then later in court, she actually said, This is what saved my life.
The guy was going to kill me because I was talking on the phone with a friend, Baron, from the United States.
And she said that, you know, the help showed up when she needed it because it was like right about to get really, really bad.
But people need to understand this.
I know it's like a whatever story you're throwing it away, but he wasn't there physically to help.
Okay.
He didn't tackle the guy.
He didn't play freaking hero.
But in real life, doing things fast.
You guys on this?
Like the first five minutes, the first minute or whatever, is because mind you, this guy came into the phone and it was fast.
It was boom, boom, boom.
She screamed and it hung up.
So her ex-boyfriend.
Her ex-boyfriend.
And he's like, oh, you know, and I don't know, his name, I don't want to, it was like a weird last name.
Like a Russian party.
A Russian something.
Yeah.
And by the way, we already know the R word is very, very prevalent in freaking the UK.
So just, you know, just his decision and the outcome, it actually mattered.
And I know this is a kind of throwaway story, but she even said, all jokes aside, Baron saved my life with the action that he did because, bro, he's calling the cops in the freaking UK.
Who the hell can you even make that call right now from your cell phone?
Who do you call?
Who do you call?
Who are you calling?
And it's not like he's calling Secret Service and they're calling.
No, no, he did it on his own.
I'm giving Baron a huge shout out.
Good for him.
Heck yeah.
Good for him for doing this.
During the testimony, the woman said, Trump helped save my life.
That call was a sign from God at the moment.
Good for him.
Yeah.
I got something for you.
Sir, well, shout out to Baron Trump.
And don't get used to high praise from the media, young man, because they might be nice to you now.
Get ready for the onslaught of horrible news.
Just ask your dad.
Just ask your brothers.
Just ask your mom.
By the way, sir, Milani is coming out with a new movie right now, which looks incredible.
So here's a kid that's been in the news since he was born, basically, and has been in the front page of the news since he's eight years old for the last decade.
I think he's 19 years old now.
So respect for you for doing the right thing.
Just get used to the media and the news and the lame stream media and the fake news coming after and attacking you.
But something tells me.
PBD, let me know if you think about this.
He has an inner circle that's going to prep him for the fake news.
What do you think?
Whose is?
His dad.
Oh, yeah, of course.
No, no.
No question about it.
Of what happens.
I mean, he's good.
But can you imagine what it is to be him right now?
First of all, you can't hide.
You're 6'9.
Any room you go into, you stand up, they see you.
You're walking through school.
They're like, who is?
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
It's him.
You're going to class.
Who's sitting next to you?
You're going on a date.
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Who's sitting next to you?
You're going on a date with a girl who's driving you.
Okay.
How do you know who she's going to tell?
If you do something with the girl, how do you know she's going to go brag about it public?
Go on, call her daddy.
What was he like?
What did he do?
Like, you know, you have to be careful with all of this stuff that's going to be happening.
Not only the name, okay?
He's Donald Trump's son.
Okay.
He actually is a freaking stunt because we had dinner with him.
And by the way, he's tall outside.
Like, you know, you're tall when you're just talking to somebody and you're like, what the hell?
You just see a head.
Like, if he was a midget, if Baron was a midget, okay, get out of here, little guy.
He's, he's ridiculous, and he's not stopping, but he's getting bigger and bigger.
It's going to be, he, I almost feel bad because, well, yeah, like you said, where's he going to go?
What girl was when we were at inauguration and he walked into the arena, if you remember, the entire place lost their minds when they saw it.
Yeah, the entire place lost their mind when they saw this.
So, okay, let me get to the next story here.
Next story I want to get to is FCC late night show may not be exempt from equal time for opposing candidates.
So what's going on here is it's the criticism of the numbers of guests that they've had.
So I think Fallon and Kimmel, I think the Kimmel number was, you know, one to 175.
For every one Republican or conservative guest, 175 were liberals.
I think maybe ended up being two or three.
And the one person that they had was Liz Cheney.
So it's not like they had somebody.
And then this leads to a conversation about, you know, FCC getting involved, saying, hey, you got to start having some guests on the other side.
The FCC is changing its rule exempting certain late night and daytime talk shows from being required to provide equal airtime to opposing political candidates.
Importantly, the FCC has not been presented with any evidence that the interview portion of any late night or daytime television talk show program on air presently would qualify for the bona fide news exemption, the FCC said in a public notice.
Moreover, a program that is motivated by partisan purposes, for example, would not be entitled to an exemption under long-standing FCC precedent.
And this is FCC chair Brandon Carr talking about this.
Carr has said that programs, because they air over a broadcast network rather than a cable channel or streamer, have an obligation to serve the public's interest.
And the FCC intends to hold their networks to that standard.
Okay.
So that's that.
Rob, I think you have a clip on this with Jimmy Kimmel.
Is this the, can you go to the Jimmy Kimmel one pleading to say, hey, this is not fair.
They're going to force us to have people from the other side.
I don't want people from the other side to come here, whatever it was that he was pleading with his audience.
And Tom, interestingly so, found something from back in the days with Johnny Carson where Johnny was, is that the one?
Yep, right here.
Okay, go for it.
And then literally minutes after announcing his mysterious deal, the president took time from 6,000 miles away to continue his war on talk shows.
He shared this story about how his minions at the FCC are planning to make it difficult for shows like ours and The View to interview politicians they don't align with.
For real.
We are once again getting threatened by the FCC.
I might need your help again.
Okay.
Oh, God.
I might need your help again.
Tom, what can you tell us about the history of how this worked and what happened with Johnny Carson many years ago?
Well, this is pure spin by Kimmel.
I'll get that in a second.
So it's called Section 315 of the Communication Act.
How is it that we have TV?
The federal government gave stations licenses to use the airwaves.
And the airwaves were, you know, therefore owned by the government.
And you could put your TV on them.
Do you remember, Vinny, growing up where on regular TV, all of a sudden they'd say, please wait for 30 seconds.
And you hear that sound.
This has been a test of the emergency broadcast system.
Had this been an actual emergency, that's the federal government testing the systems that were TV.
Now, this is just TV, Pat, over the year, ABC, CBS, NBC.
So back in the day, the FCC used to control this very stridently.
If you had a political candidate on, you had to give equal time to the other political candidate.
Because even though NBC is working for a profit, those airwaves, open airwaves, belong to the people through the federal government.
And so the Tonight Show and NBC used to say, hey, we're not going to have candidates on.
We're not going to walk the line like that.
And they would also be very careful with guests.
Johnny Carson famously told Charlton Heston, who we know as the Charlton Heston that spoke about the Second Amendment, they can take my gun when they prime my cold, dead fingers off it.
Remember that?
And then Jane Fonda, who never met something liberal she didn't like, were both on opposite sides of the spectrum.
And Carson reeled them in.
Says, hey, we need to get back to your book.
We need to get back to your movie.
He would pull him back in.
And so that was the way it used to work.
What happened is, Pat, the federal government stopped enforcing it the way they should.
And all Brendan Carr, at the urging of the president, is saying, hey, everybody who's still over the air, and you heard in the thing you read, Pat, not the cable network is private.
Comcast dug the ditch and put that cable in front of your house, and you pay Comcast for it, right?
And they run that on their on the electricity they buy.
But over the air, the big three networks are over the air, and that's why you read that in that story.
So Brendan Carr is like, you know what?
We should get back to this.
Immediately, Jimmy Kimmel goes, oh, now they're going to do this.
No, Jimmy Kimmel's been living at a time where the FCC was not enforcing the law that was already there.
I got a question for you.
What is the nominal speed on I-95, Pat?
Nominal speed.
65.
No, no, not speed limit, nominal.
It's about 72.
I was going to say 76.
But the speed limit is 65, and then in certain areas, 55 for a short distance.
Well, guess what?
Nobody does that.
The nominal situation right now is that the late night shows and everybody on broadcast TV, they've been driving 65, but nobody's been pulling them over and giving him a ticket.
Of course.
The speed limit has never changed.
President is saying, hey, Brendan, you should go back out on section 315.
Maybe I need to go on Jimmy Kimmel.
Maybe I, whatever's being said, maybe I need to go have five minutes on Kimmel if he's going to talk to Gavin for five minutes.
And that's the last thing the liberals that are in major media want.
Vinny.
No, the fact that he's still up there, they're still paying him.
I know the contract is done at the end of this year, but it's just crying a river.
It's like we all know what the Democratic Party and all the donors are doing.
They pay these people because the majority of these older voters are sitting at home and still watching this propaganda get pumped in their brains, but it's not working and it's over.
And I think, hey, it's fair.
It's fair.
If you're going to give one side, you know, 10% of the airtime, you have to give the other side 10%.
And to be honest with you, Tom, this would probably save the network because you're going to be forced to give equal.
It's not going to be Trump, Trump, Trump.
That is a great point, very ironically, that the three broadcasts over there are networks, even though they're also on cable, but they're broadcast, ABC, CBS, NBC.
Suddenly they start doing things on both sides.
They might gain audience.
That's what I'm saying.
So it might be like a blessing in disguise that they have no idea.
But Jimmy Kimmel, like, by the way, I just love that that audience is the same audience of the view.
It's that same just angry, because mind you, I've been in those audiences.
I've seen them shooting.
I've been in Bill Maher's audience as well.
It's that same group of people that are out in the streets of Minnesota yelling and screaming and going into Target and putting carriages with $400 and then walking out because they're angry at ICE.
Those are the same freaking people, but I just think it's a stupid, stupid crying move pad.
It's not going to do anything.
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He's gone after this year.
All right, well, let me show you this.
This is Larry Fink and Elon Musk on aging.
Is there going to be anything that we can reverse aging?
Okay, the conversation about reverse aging.
And look what Musk's answer is.
Fink, who I believe, Rob, is in his late 60s, early 70s.
Can we find out how old Larry Fink is?
He runs BlackRock, $14 trillion, 73 years old, assets under management, 22,000 employees, give or take.
They have offices in 30 countries.
They have investments in 100 plus countries.
But he's at an age where it's kind of like, look, man, I'm getting close to this thing.
Can I reverse aging?
Elon Musk's answer excites Larry Fink.
Watch this.
Can you and I reverse aging in this new history or are we going to see it?
You know, I haven't put much time into the aging stuff.
I do think it is a very solvable problem.
I think when we figure out what causes aging, I think we'll find it's incredibly obvious.
It's not a subtle thing.
The reason I say it's not a subtle thing is because all the cells in your body, you know, with some, pretty much age at the same rate.
I've never seen someone with an old left arm and a young right arm ever in my life.
So why is that?
That means that there must be a clock, a synchronizing clock that is synchronizing across 35 trillion cells in your body.
And, you know, there is some benefit to death, by the way.
There's a reason why we don't actually have a longer lifespan because if people do live forever for a very long time, I think there's some risk of an ossification of society, of things just getting kind of locked in place.
And it just may become stultifying, just not lack vibrancy.
But that said, do I think we'll figure out ways to extend life and maybe even reverse aging?
I think that's highly likely.
I'm looking forward to that.
I'm looking forward to that.
Okay, so what do you think?
You think it's going to happen?
You think the reverse aging thing will take place, Tom?
Well, I think we're already making a lot of ground on cancer because if you take cancer and heart disease out, you basically, that's where you're getting the human population going from, you know, 48 to 73.
If you take a look at the turn of the century and antibiotics, right?
Used to be that, you know, pneumonia at age 30 could be a death sentence.
That could be that.
But now, you know, advanced antibiotics and things allowed you to live longer.
I think we're going to see it.
I think we're going to see incremental things going forward.
Now, we also have the Contra effect that we're poisoning ourselves and we're running ourselves in background.
Like what happens with food in certain countries like ours in terms of processing, sugar, obesity, Health-oriented diabetes, in other words, not diabetes since you were young because your pancreas had a defect, but you basically traumatizing your body and your pancreas through diet and weight to the point that your pancreas, you know, you develop, you know, health-oriented diabetes.
When you start moving a lot of that back, you suddenly are, I think, gonna find a lot of aging acceleration.
We're already living in a world where right now we have more 100-year-olds than ever.
And I think that's what's that, doubling in three years, the number of hundred-year-olds that are around us, doubling in three years.
And so, we're gonna see it, but I think we're gonna see it in incremental ways.
Like people that get smart about sugar, get smart about what we're talking more education, not actual reverse aging, Benjamin Button type of stuff that's going on.
No, I know, I think there will be some of that.
They're gonna figure certain things out.
Adam, where are you at with this?
Look, we're already living in the best time in human history.
I mean, taking people out of poverty, extending life expectancy, reducing infant mortality, this is the best time to be alive.
It's all the people that are the doomsday and the global warming, and I hate America.
Check the research on that.
I'm in the life settlement, life insurance world.
You know that.
And the cornerstone of that is life expectancy.
People are living longer than ever, especially if you just take care of yourself.
If you got some money and you got some health insurance and you got some coverage, what a time to be alive, especially in America.
Don't smoke.
Watch what you eat.
Don't be a fat ass.
Work out from time to time.
And, you know, they said that sitting is the new smoking.
Get out and work out a little bit.
Get some sun as well.
So the real question is this: life expectancy is longer than ever.
People are living longer, but are they living healthier?
You know, you talked about not life expectancy, what's your health expectancy.
If you take care of yourself and you work out like this guy right here, you have a family and kids like this guy right here, which I'm working on.
Life is great, man.
Vinny.
Well, I think, you know, it's reverse aging, going backwards.
The Benjamin Bunt thing is hilarious, but I think taking care of yourself should be a reverse aging guy.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Aging will happen.
No, I think it will.
I think everything to me with technology and everything that's happening with AI, it's definitely, they're definitely going to figure it out, especially when he simplifies it the way that he's saying it's the clock.
Imagine you put something in you and you're seeing your skin, the wrinkles going.
It's going away.
And by the way, you're lasting longer and you're being here.
But as a Christian, I think we forget the design of this whole thing.
It's not to be here forever.
It's be fruitful, be multiplied, pass on the wisdom to the next generation, and then meet your maker.
I think that arc has to happen.
So messing with the plan, with God's plan, and I, yes, I think it's going to happen, but you know, you're supposed to live your best life and then you're supposed to move on.
I think these guys are messing with you.
What are you thinking?
If we get to that point, which I think we will, at least in our lifetime, especially at the rate AI is going.
But would you take it?
Would you take it?
I think if I have a big enough family and I continue to go at that path, I would love to take it.
What age would you like to live to, Efren?
Pick your age.
My age, I keep telling my kids I'll be 100 plus.
You want to be 100 plus?
100 plus.
You want to make it 100 plus.
I want to make it to 100 plus.
Would you want to live to 200?
I don't know, but depends how the world is going.
I guess.
Yeah, it's enjoy life what you have it.
If you keep extending it and what life's going to be, what's the true meaning of life at that point?
Would you want to live to 200?
Absolutely.
How?
Tell me about it.
With lieback?
I'll explain.
With my back.
But by the way, what if they find a way where that back pain goes away?
Yeah.
What if your knee pain goes away?
What if your ankle pain goes away?
The elbows, the shoulder, the neck, the peeing seven times a night, the bubbling you have to do.
I'm already doing that.
But what I'm saying is, forget about all of that.
What if all of that goes away?
Would you want to live to 200?
I'll tell you, if you want to be completely selfish, then yeah, live to 1,000.
But if you want to see all your friends, your family, your kids all die, and you're still alive, I got a major problem with that.
My grandmother, she just died at age 100 two weeks ago.
She died.
My entire family flew in from Minnesota and we celebrated her 100th birthday.
We all took pictures.
We all had cake.
She has dementia.
She sat there.
I think she remembers my aunt and my uncle a little bit.
And we all left.
They put her to bed.
And two days later, she was dead.
And we all said, what a beautiful life she had.
Thank God we did this.
My other grandma, who's like my closest grandma, she's 94.
And she's complaining.
I don't feel good.
She's way more cognitive than this other grandma.
I said, grandma, I love you.
I don't want to hear it.
I'm already planning your 100th birthday.
It's in six years.
I already put the down payment on the party room.
No excuses.
I need you there.
And you know what she says?
Okay, I'm going to do my best to make it.
And I'm giving her a reason to live.
So do you want to live to 200?
No, because all your friends and family are going to die.
But age 100, with all your family and kids and grandkids, that's a beautiful thing.
Yo, what I'm talking about is you go to a doctor, new technology comes out.
For a million dollars, they can make you look to the best version you can be and internally change organs healthier, live longer.
You know, if you have the resources, buy a younger heart, younger this, younger that, they do the surgery, they put it in there.
Would you want that?
Would you want to do that?
I would want a better, I mean, I have high blood pressure.
I would love it.
Give me a heart.
You with the red face in the veins have high blood pressure?
And I'm sitting next to you is the reason I get the red face in the freaking vein.
Vinny, sitting next to you, my left eardrum is now non-existent.
Sitting next to Ephraim, it feels great.
That's called computer control.
What do you have with this?
Well, first of all, God's not going to let us do anything on medicine that he doesn't want us to do.
So I have faith in that.
I have faith that he's in control, right?
He says he knows the days and things.
So I believe God's in control.
I don't think we're going to get to like magic reversal, but I think we're going to get to a lot of life extension.
I think we're going to get to a lot of things on cancer and a lot of things on life extension, Pat, where you age more slowly and you age better.
I don't think we're going to be able to go into reverse.
We do things like facelift and Botox and suddenly a 40-year-old person looks 32, 33, tighten up the skin and all that.
And you can worry about that all day long.
And there are some things you can do that way.
But I think we're going to have slower aging and we're going to conquer certain diseases.
But I'm like, you know, I am absolutely, you know, focused on 100.
And I've actually more recently, because I look around, how old will everybody be around me?
I look at 110 and I say, and then I look at all the stats.
You know, there's going to be 420,100-year-olds when I turn 100.
I'm going to be part of that.
I like that.
I'm going to be able to do that.
I'm going to be able to ask you a question.
So forgive me if it's too personal.
We all love your dad, Gabriel.
He's 83.
83.
Have you had that discussion with age 100, how long he'd want to live?
Obviously, that's your role model, your hero.
What are your thoughts on him living to 200?
See, that's a different conversation.
I'd want him to live and outlive me.
It's a very, I want everybody to outlive me.
It's not even a question, but there's a reason why God created it the way he did.
I think there is, in the weirdest way, is certain experiences that bring pain.
I think it's necessary.
I think you need it because you need, you know, when I was coming up, I needed setback to humble me.
You know, if I was a 22-year-old today, it would be a very different PBD people would be remembering me for.
If I was 22, having nothing to lose, having nothing that's going on.
Life was, I'm in debt $49,000, you know, and then I'm with this company.
I'm a rock star at 21.
I'm giving talks on yachts in Newport Beach, and I'm the poster child of this technology company that's coming out with this billionaire that is mentoring me in L.A.
And I'm at his place in Newport all the time.
Beautiful $35 million home at that time.
It's now a $100 million home out the water.
Beautiful, beautiful property.
And then I'm like, man, I'm going to be this.
I'm going to be that.
And then, boom, I lost it all.
And it was embarrassing.
Girl leaves.
Friends are making fun of you because, you know, I thought you were going to be a millionaire.
I thought you're pulling up on a Ford Focus.
That stick shift.
No power windows.
You know, the old school windows.
The AC is a ghetto AC.
Car payment on the focus is 228.
And then you look at how everybody looks at you.
And they have that smirk on their face.
You know what the smirk on the face is like?
What happened?
I told you.
You were like dreaming.
And then you have to take it.
And then you're like, yeah, you're never going to look at me like that ever again.
That's just never going to happen.
So I think that's one pain.
Then there's the pain to lose someone for you to realize why you have to be more grateful.
God teaches gratitude in a very unique way.
You know, God teaches important relationships and friendships in a very weird way.
He teaches you on how to be the benefits of being better at relationships in a very weird way.
You may have a transactional mind and you're like, well, I'm going to do this.
I'm going to do that.
And you're like, no, man, you need relationships.
You have to learn how to better build relationships.
So to me, look, with my dad, I asked God for one thing with dad many years ago when I was in the military.
I just said, God, I want my kids to get to know him.
And I want to, you know, the time that I didn't get with him when I was 10 to 12 years old, when my parents got a divorce and I lived in Germany.
And then the next six years when I saw him one Saturday, Sunday, every other weekend, and then I go to the army for two and a half years.
I don't see my city.
I want to find a way to rekindle that relationship.
And then now he lives with us the last five years, family, all of that.
No.
There is a time for everything.
I mean, even in the Bible, who says that?
There's a time to mourn.
There's time to, who says that?
Is that King Solomon wrote in Ecclesiastes?
Yeah, Ecclesiastes.
Yeah, there's a time for, there's a time really for everything, right?
There's a time to weep.
There's a time to laugh.
There's a time to mourn.
There's time to dance.
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That is really a part of life.
Like, we have to realize, you know, mourning happens.
And sometimes it's a way of saying, hey, it's your time to step up.
Stop being so selfish.
Stop living your life just for you.
People are relying on you.
You know, people are relying on you to lead the family.
We had one of my guys, when his father died, he called me one time.
He was driving back from Lodi back to California, and we're on the phone together, and he's just crying.
I said, listen, you can cry all you want with me on the phone right now.
Do it.
Get it out of your system.
When you get in front of your family, everybody else can cry.
You're officially the leader.
And if you need to cry, step away, get in the car, come back.
One person needs to carry the burden to family.
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One person needs to carry the burden of family.
Cry privately as much as you want the next five hours.
When you get there, you're the oldest son.
You need to officially be able to lead this family.
And that's not an easy burden that comes with it, but your father had to carry it.
Now it's on you to carry it.
So I think that part that we fight, listen, it is what it is.
You know, you got to go through it.
But me selfishly, if I had a mind, I want everybody to outlive me.
I want everybody to outlive me.
But God's got different plans.
You got to trust it.
Respect.
So I want to get this next story.
And Efron, I'm coming to you with SpaceX because I used to work at SpaceX for eight years.
So here's Elon.
Musk wants to take SpaceX public to get funding for space data centers for AI.
Rob, is this the story with that that Wall Street Journal had?
Go ahead and play this clip.
Go forward.
I think the case is a no-brainer for building solar-powered AI data centers in space.
Because as you mentioned, it's also very cold in space.
If you're in the shadow, then it's very cold in space.
There's three degrees Kelvin.
So you just have your solar panels facing the sun and then a radiator that's pointed away from the sun.
So it has no sun incidents.
And then it's just cooling.
It's a very efficient cooling system.
So net effect is that the lowest cost place to put AI will be space.
And that'll be true within two years.
Maybe three, three at the latest.
What do you think about what he said here?
I think the way he explains it, man, it seems like it was so easy to envision and it's logically easy to do, right?
His timeframes are always on the shorter side, but you can't put anything across Elon that he can do or will do.
And I think what he's saying right now and funding this AI structure in space, I think the SpaceX teams will be able to take care of it.
What was the culture like working at SpaceX?
Oh, phenomenal.
At least for the teams that I was in, it was always, there was a sense of urgency all the damn time.
It was never off.
Tell me how you felt that sense of urgency.
Sorry.
How would it happen from the top down?
So I'll tell you when my time in Starship.
So I was one of the two leaders in Starship when we're really doing the Starship build from the ground up.
The level, and I don't know if you guys noticed this, but Elon actually pinned us against Florida, and we had internal competitions of who was going to build Starship first and successfully.
So the level of urgency, he will come to the side and be like, hey, did you guys know that Florida already installed the AFDOM and you guys are still building the barrels?
Right.
So he's put planning that like, hey, you got to go faster.
And for us in the team, it's okay, how do we go faster and fail fast to get the data that we need or keep moving forward?
That's the, I can't describe the amount of pressure that I had, but that helped me grow more as a leader.
With that amount of pressure I had at that build, I don't have it anymore.
Were you ever meetings with him where he would come and talk to you guys?
Yes.
Give me one of the meetings you guys had.
So one of the meetings is on site, he's the one meeting that I remember the most is how he said, I want to obsolete his own, what is it, dragon, the dragon capsule.
Like what company obsoletes their own product, right?
And then he also wants to obsolete the plane.
Think about that.
You're going to now, if you want to go from here to Dubai, now you get on a Starship rocket.
20 minutes, 18 minutes.
The world will change rapidly when that happens.
Because if you think about it, back in the day, you were on foot on horses.
Now you have vehicles, now you have planes.
The level of networking and I mean, I look up to the future.
Like the future looks bright.
That is absolutely a true statement.
Being in SpaceX, I have nothing but love for everyone there.
And shout out to everybody that's in Boca Chica.
It's a tough environment to be in, but it is well worth it.
You have driven individuals that they don't do it because Elam is pressuring them.
And this is the other side of social media that's retarded.
Oh, he's forcing the employees to work long hours.
No, the employees love being there.
They're doing that for themselves.
Like, I get it.
I love the process.
That's to me, I got lost in the process.
I lost time with the family.
Yeah, but we had a plan.
Like, hey, guys, and for a decade, I'm just going to grind.
My wife, don't get me wrong, back and forth, arguments, right?
But we're still here.
Five kids later.
Yeah.
Well, that's cool to give that perspective of what it was like.
By the way, the audience that's watching this and want to know how Efren got on the podcast from a contest that we ran, Rob, if we can put up his Manecta up there so people can see, we'll put the link below as well.
Send him a message.
I think his Manect, you can DM him right now on Manect and kind of share the experience that he's been here as well.
Tom, what do you think about what he's saying with the advancement?
Especially, you know, I love how he said that Elam would come down to the culture, talk to the employees and say, we need to replace our existing product and be a competitor to ourselves.
But what do you think about what he's saying with the AI data centers he's talking about in space?
Well, he's correct.
If you can, so every quarter that goes by, the amount of technology that it takes on a weight basis to store, you know, one megabyte drops.
So the amount of weight that needs to be in the storage systems drops.
And the energy you need, if you have solar power, solar panels pointing at the sun and you have all of the storage facility up in space, he's right.
It just runs.
And what he's talking about, the radiator is on the sun side, it's actually way too hot.
But four inches away, Pat, on the dark side that never gets sun, it's three degrees Kelvin.
So the radiator in the middle uses the heat from the solar panels to actually keep the system at a basic temperature and it runs incredibly efficiently.
Elon is right about that.
And he's got tremendous launch technology to launch all the stuff up there.
Look at Starlink.
Starlink is Leo's low Earth orbit satellites.
And he just kept launching them until he had wide coverage all the way around.
And that's how he built Starlink.
So he has the launch.
He has built technologies of networks of satellites in space.
So what is so difficult about launching all of the storage mechanism and the downlink?
He already has the downlink back to Earth.
It's called Starlink.
So basically, the data center will talk to the Starlink satellites that will talk to Earth back and forth.
So all he needs to do is get the storage systems up there and the cooling.
That's the only two things.
He has everything else.
So I believe he's going to do it.
I believe he's going to have a data center in space within two years.
Absolutely.
And it's very interesting.
The people that know are talking about the IPO.
Well, he could do it anytime in the future.
It could be done by July 2026.
Wait a minute.
It takes 90 days to file and it takes 60 days to go.
That's five months.
We're about to go to February, which means if he's going to put an IPO out, they basically have to talk about it between Valentine's Day and Easter.
You know what I mean, Pat?
Because he can do a lot of things fast, make the SEC go faster is probably not one of them.
Just the basic filing and the amount of time in inspection.
And so, and he would need all the major banks to do it.
We know about a deal that no one bank can do on its own.
You know what's amazing, Tom, about what Efron just talked about a minute ago is if you want to know what it's like to work for somebody or with somebody, don't ask them.
Ask the people that are sitting there watching telling the stories to say, you know, Ephraim working at SpaceX, yeah, Elon would come to meetings and tell us, hey, by the way, Florida's doing this.
Hey, by the way, just so you know, we need to replace this in regular meetings.
Can you imagine that?
That this guy's worth three quarters of a billion, three quarters of a trillion dollars.
He's worth $7.50 going around talking to people and saying, hey, here's what we got to do here.
And he's just getting warmed up.
Very impressive to see that.
I want to get to the next thing here about Jamie Dimon at Davos.
Here's Jamie at Davos talking about taxes.
Adam, I'm going to come to you right after this here.
This is one of my favorite clips from Davos.
Okay.
Jamie is up there talking about what do you want us to do with taxes?
Give a trillion dollars to the government?
What do you think is going to happen?
Go ahead, Rob.
Society work better for everybody.
Would you raise taxes to pay for that?
I don't think you have to.
I think it would drive a lot of growth.
I think I did the numbers at one point be $60 billion of spending.
I think it would probably create more than that of growth and taxes.
And if you have to raise taxes a little bit, that's fine.
But again, I don't want to buy your argument.
I don't know anyone, okay?
And you guys in the room, you might be Democrats, Republicans, who thinks the spending, that sending another trillion dollars to Washington, D.C. will actually improve anything.
So when you say raise taxes, if you said raise taxes and directly give it to the people who need it, do it.
No, no, we are running out of time.
There's all these interest groups, you know, and they give it to their friends and all that.
Which is why the people are considered a swamp.
It's kind of a swamp.
You know, there's 17,000 lobbying groups.
But companies are guilty, too.
They're just fighting for their one self-interest as opposed to what's good for my country.
But that's what happens in Congress.
And you see how these bills get spent.
Like the CHIPS Act was a good idea until it had to be unions, place-based, child care, diapers.
What the hell are we doing?
And we do it over and over.
And then it fails.
And then we spend more money that makes society work better for everybody.
What a point he makes.
Would you raise taxes to pay for that?
I don't think you have to.
I think it would drive a lot of growth.
Yeah, I'm with Jamie Dimon on this.
I mean, I'm going to tie in the former story with Elon to Jamie Dimon.
You know, one of the first shirts I think you ever put out there was 100% of the world's problems are going to be solved by entrepreneurs, right?
I'm paraphrasing it.
And that's exactly what's going on here.
Here's a capitalist, an entrepreneur, sort of Democrat, sort of moderate.
I don't know where he's at.
But raising the taxes is something that leftists want to do, that communists want to do, that Marxists want to do with the warm blanket of collectivism.
We all know what that means.
They want to seize the means of production.
And even when he's talking about capitalism and harping against not raising taxes, she's like, whoa, whoa, we're running out of time.
We know where you're at with this.
Back to Elon Musk.
He said he's worth almost of a quarter of a trillion dollars, three quarters of a trillion dollars.
So in my opinion, Elon Musk is still a little child.
And what do I mean by that?
He's still that little kid that wants to go to space.
Pat, what do you always talk about?
There's a difference between being childlike and childish.
He's still childlike.
He still is thinking of Star Wars and Star Trek and even Spaceballs.
Shout out to that movie.
So what did Steve Jobs once say?
Another amazing entrepreneur, another amazing capitalist?
You know, the people that are crazy enough to think that they're going to change the world will change the world.
Well, if that's the case, Elon Musk is certifiably insane because he's changing the world.
And the biggest thing is this last point.
We talk about signal versus noise.
How much noise is Elon Musk dealing with?
Baby mama drama, the haters, the Doge, the people burning Teslas, the politics, everything.
But he, he's focused on the signal.
He's building his companies.
And this dude, since he's two years old and now he's in his mid-50s, still wants to go to space.
And he's employing guys like this that want to change the world.
Tom.
You asked about Jamie Dimon.
And if there's anybody that I'd like to have some reverse aging for, it's Jamie Dimon.
You're seeing a guy here.
If you've read the book Barbarians to Bureaucrats, you're seeing a guy who refuses to go the way and fall into the pit and be the permanent bureaucrat.
This is the guy who spoke so eloquently and so forcefully, and yes, a little profanely about work from home and about getting back after COVID and about communicating with each other and talking to people.
And he's speaking clearly about the swamp.
He refuses to be the dead, crusty bureaucrat.
He holds back.
And it's almost like he's reversing the aging of leadership a little bit, Pat.
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And if he's able to keep leading like this, people are worried about the succession.
You know, I'm worried about, can we get another year out?
Can we get another year out?
I feel like when I look at Tom Brady, I feel like it's what the Patriot fans probably thought.
Can we have one more year of Brady?
One more year of Brady.
Can he get one more year?
You know, they, and I look at Diamond and that's what I think.
I think, how can we get just a little bit more out of this guy?
Because I love what he's saying.
I think he's dead on.
I don't even want to talk about the reporter, but that reaction is the way everybody reacts to him because he won't play their game.
Yeah, and again, this is one of my favorite clips.
However, while this is going on, reports come out that Trump administration and Trump is suing Chase for $5 billion.
Rob, I don't know if you have that clip or not.
Is this it?
Yep.
Explaining the lawsuit?
Yep.
So this happens like pretty much within 24 hours apart.
Go ahead.
Trump has filed a lawsuit against JPMorgan Chase and Jamie Dimon personally over allegations of debanking of Trump-related bank accounts during the period of time that the president was out of office.
This is a suit for as much as $5 billion filed by the President of the United States and a number of Trump entities against JPMorgan and Jamie Dimon as an individual.
And we have a statement here from JPMorgan just within the past couple of seconds.
They say, while we regret President Trump has sued us, we believe the suit has no merit.
We respect the president's right to sue us and our right to defend ourselves.
That's what courts are for.
JPMorgan Chase does not close accounts for political or religious reasons.
We do close accounts because they create legal or regulatory risk for the company.
We regret having to do so, but often rules and regulatory expectations lead us to do so.
We have been asking both this administration and prior administrations to change the rules and regulations that put us in this position.
And we support the administration's efforts to prevent the weaponization of the banking sector.
That's an on-the-record comment from JPMorgan spokesperson, Trish Wexler, Scott.
So this lawsuit is a 56-page document.
We're going through it right now.
The gist of the argument is that this debanking was improper and due to political reasons.
That's what the president says in the filing.
And we saw, Scott, Jamie Dimon, very outspoken in Davos, being one of the few CEOs of the United States.
You can pause it there.
By the way, you have to realize, I mean, what this does.
They asked him to shut his accounts down within a 60-day notice.
This is Chase.
Anything related to him, hey, everything's got to shut down within 60-day notice.
What do you call that?
Disruption for the business?
There's many legal terms to use that Tom, you and I have been a part of.
One carrier one time did this to us.
Tom and I were at what is this place, the highest point in Colorado, not Vale.
What is that place called?
Breckinridge.
Say it again.
Breckenridge?
Breckenridge.
So we're in Breckenridge and we're in the car.
He and I.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
All around us.
Tom is sitting next to us.
We get a call from an insurance carrier we got, and within a 30-day notice, they dropped the contract.
30-day notice, they dropped the contract.
This was a guy that we were about their previous CEO that had left two or three years ago prior to that, wanted to come and be the CEO of our company.
And they decided, nope, 30 days, we're dropping a contract.
What do you mean you're dropping it?
It was the biggest disruption that took place.
Biggest.
Now, afterwards, everything got scored away.
We had to go through.
They came back.
The relationship, it's all good.
Everything got scored away that we had to get in place.
But I fully understand the lawsuit.
Don't forget this is a moment where, do you remember Facebook?
Trump saw Facebook.
Google, boom.
YouTube, boom.
Twitter, boom.
This is when, you know, everybody was losing PayPal.
You know, Alex Jones couldn't do business with anybody.
All these conservative guys, YouTube channels being taken down.
I actually understand the argument of doing that, especially being Chase.
And you got to move your money from your accounts that you have to go to different accounts with unfavorable terms that you have to go to.
In no other situation has this ever happened.
You do it to a U.S. president?
You think he's going to forget?
Nope.
You think he's going to sit there?
So to me, there's a part of me that is a big fan of the way when Diamond speaks.
I listen to it.
I'm like, I really like the way this guy thinks.
But for them to make a decision like that, that was a massive screw up on Chase's end when they did this in 2021.
Tom, your thoughts on this?
I'll give you, if you look at that quote, you know how I kind of parse legal languages and sometimes I find little antennas in the world.
They said this yesterday.
They said legal and regulatory expectations.
When I read her quote from Chase and every word of that quote went through three PR people and Chase's army of attorneys before that was handed to the network.
Legal and regulatory expectations.
Whose expectations?
The Biden administration was putting pressure on Chase.
So Chase may have made a terrible mistake and I think they did.
But I think what will come out is they're going to say, hey, look, I got copies here of all the emails we got from the Biden administration.
Can we find them?
They're not going to get there, Tom.
They're not going to get there.
You don't think so?
They're not going to get to Discovery.
They're not going to get, by the way, let me, let me.
I'm saying a legal and regulatory expectation.
I think they're going to, do you think they're going to tell the Trump administration what happened?
No.
No.
Here's what I think.
Let's go through it.
Let's go through it.
Let's process it together.
Okay.
One, did you hear what Jamie Dimon said yesterday about Biden at Davos?
Did you guys hear on the speech what he said?
Okay, so let me tell you why this is important, okay?
That maybe gives credence to your argument.
So I'm going to come back to you.
Can you type in Jamie Dimon, Davos Biden?
Okay.
Jamie Dimon, Davos Biden.
Is that it, Rob?
Can you zoom in so I can see it?
Climate of Davos.
No.
He talks about, I am still so furious with what happened with the border under Biden and what that did to the economy.
It was at Davos.
I'll find it.
I'll send it to you.
Was it Diamond or Kim Griffin?
Jamie Diamond.
Jamie Griffin destroyed the Biden administration.
He did.
But Jamie Dimon said this.
So to me, if they do discovery, Tom, okay?
If they do discovery and they find out that they made the decision to close Trump's accounts with Chase within 60 days, that's the only time they gave him 60 days.
If they find out that the Biden administration asked them to do it and they listened, who looks weak?
Chase looks like they wouldn't stand up to totalitarianism.
That's why they can't go to Discovery.
They can't go to Discovery.
So I'm expecting a $50 to $200 million check being paid out.
This can be the biggest check they're going to pay out to him.
You cannot do this.
This is not acceptable.
You cannot get in the way of somebody that's running a business because you don't agree with them politically.
And the White House calls you and tells you you better close those accounts.
That discovery of the emails, what is the percentage of the Biden saying closes accounts?
What do you think is a percentage that they can actually crawl and find those emails?
Oh, 80%.
80%?
I'm with you.
Say 80%.
I'm 100% that it happened and 80% they can find the evidence.
Perfect.
They find that.
You want Jamie's legacy to end on that?
No way.
Jamie's going to go to the board.
He's going to say, look, guys, can you tell me, Rob, what is JPMorgan Chase's cash balance right now?
What is Chase's cash balance right now?
You want to guess, Vinny?
Go to JPMorgan's cash balance right now.
How much cash do they have on their balance sheet right now?
Pure cash.
Does it show how much they're sitting on cash?
Let's see if it's a publicly, we should be able to see it.
Do you see it or no?
Tom, how much cash is Chase Bank sitting on right now on their balance sheet?
Okay.
This is how the meeting is going to go.
Jamie's going to go to the board and he's going to say they're sitting on $303 billion of cash.
Jeez.
Is what they're sitting on right now.
Yep.
Okay.
$303 billion of cash.
$4 trillion total assets.
By the way, $303 billion of cash, Tom?
You know what he's going to say?
He's going to say, settle $200 million, let it go.
Sir, the president wants $500 million.
Offer $50 million, but settle at $200 million.
This thing's going to settle between, you know, somewhere between $30 to $200 million, and they're going to go away.
You cannot do this.
Remember, they're going to be for $290 on the Epstein claims.
Tom, you cannot do this.
You cannot do this.
This to me is like you cannot get to this place because you're trying to destroy a man's life because you don't agree with his politics and his ideology.
Do you know when the timing of it was?
I'm with you 1,000%.
Do you know when this happened?
January 6th happened, and then a couple weeks later, they gave him the 60-day thing.
This is it's blatantly obvious.
It was because of the politics, and I think you make a great point.
You don't want them to actually have to unravel and pull the curtain back to find out.
Because by the way, banks should be neutral.
Your job is to hold my money, safeguard it, facilitate transactions.
That's it.
Once you start making decisions for politics, it stopped being a fucking financial institution, and it's a private governing body.
Just hold my money.
Don't get politics with me.
We will never know the truth about this.
Nope.
Because everybody knows what happened.
And I think you're right.
I think that word expectations in there is intentional, which is why they're going to write the check.
For sure.
Who do I write this out to?
That's right.
And by the way, even if they're throwing Biden under the bus.
And by the way, he did yesterday at Davos.
In the 30, 29-minute talk that he gave, he intentionally threw Biden under the bus.
And then he backed up twice.
You think he's a fan of Biden?
Jamie cannot stand what Biden administration did.
We have to almost play the griffin to say, the day he was out, my life got better.
The day he was done, business got better.
Rob, if you can go to the transcript and find the part, I know what you're doing, on when he uses the phrase Biden and the border, it's Biden border.
Did you find it?
Watch this.
Go ahead, Rob.
I'm still angry at the Biden administration.
Okay, go back a little bit.
What did he say?
I want the audience to hear what he says.
Go ahead.
Much, much more skeptical of immigration, both legal and illegal.
Is that good?
Look at the first phrase.
Listen.
I'm still angry.
Angry.
What they allow to happen.
Severely damaged our country.
And then, and they say, oh, there's nothing you can do about it.
Trump comes in, boom, it's closed.
God bless him.
You know, countries have to control their borders or they will cause huge problems.
And you have that all over Europe.
And it's even worse there because in America, most people coming to America want to be American.
They come to work.
They can't wait to become a citizen of the United States of America.
That's not true for most of European immigration.
You can pause it right there.
You can pause it right there.
He's making such a good question.
Adam, I see your point.
I'm going to come to you.
Yeah, he's making such a good point.
But there's something that he said in the interview.
They asked him a question at the beginning, 30 seconds.
She opens it up.
She says, you know, what are the biggest lessons you've learned in your career?
He says, two things.
One, she says, how about investments?
Investments, we're going to make money.
We're going to lose money.
We move on.
That's okay.
He said, but I'm going to tell you two biggest mistakes we've learned from.
What?
One, we had a great opportunity.
We sat on it for too long.
We lost it.
Two, we had a bad person to fire.
We sat on it too long.
Then it took us a while to recover.
We had to fire sooner and move on from somebody.
I'm paraphrasing.
This here, he knows he screwed up.
He knows he screwed up.
This stuff that he's saying about Biden, in my opinion, this is his way to tell Trump, hey, I'm with you.
I'm giving you credit here to make sure be gentle with us because it's going to be brutal and they're going to have to cut the check and it's well deserved.
You cannot do something like that to stop someone's bank account.
You cannot do that.
That's cross.
And by the way, I'm even talking about what people you disagree with.
I'm talking like, take the worst person in America right now, whoever it is.
Who's the worst person in the world right now?
Take anybody.
Take anybody right now.
You can't mess with the banking stuff.
You can't.
Because if you do that to them, it's going to come back to the other side.
You cannot do.
There are certain things that, you know how people go here, you know, and then they go here.
I would much rather we fight here.
If you go here, I have to retaliate here.
Of course.
I have to retaliate here.
It's a very like, you watch Game of Thrones and, you know, Tico three days ago is telling me, he says, Dad, do you know of the 60-something Roman emperors, do you know how many of them were lost the throne by the sword?
I said, what's the number?
38.
Damn.
By the sword.
They were taken, replaced by the sword.
He's telling me this.
Okay, you take my throne by the sword.
What do you think is happening to you?
Same thing coming to you.
My son's going to come and do the same thing to you.
And then guess what's going to happen?
And then guess what's going to happen?
This is not going to happen.
I mean, so you think Trump forgot about what Chase did?
No.
And what a perfect timing on when he drops it.
What a perfect timing on when he drops it.
He's questioning who he wants to choose as his Jerome Powell replacement.
There's some comments that's made.
Oh, you want to criticize me?
Here you go.
I haven't forgotten.
I've kept it here.
Here's the lawsuit right at Davos.
What are you going to do about it?
Okay, so I think to give Jamie credit, I'm a Jamie fan.
I like what he's done.
But this is, if there's, if any time in your career, you're going to have a lot of screw-ups.
I make the list of the worst mistakes I've made as an executive when you're building a company.
This is, in my opinion, top two list of mistakes he made.
You do not do this to a president.
I don't care what it is with January 6th.
The credit goes to Tim Cook when Obama was begging him to release the phones of San Bernardino.
You know, the details with that.
And what did Tim Cook do?
Boyfriend, girlfriend, in the shoot.
He's like, no, I'm not going to give it to you.
What do you mean?
I'm not going to give it to you.
As shitty as this last iOS update is, which is the worst update Apple's ever done.
Oh my God, it sucks.
Folks, please don't update your phones.
When it says, would you like to update your phone?
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Say no.
No, thank you.
I don't want to update it until they figure this is the worst.
I take a picture screenshot.
I got three additional steps.
I just took a screenshot, added in the pictures.
I'm trying to go find my playlist.
I got to go seven steps trying to text somebody.
But because Tim Cook's the CEO and he is somebody that's still going to protect what's in here, I am a supporter of some of the things that Tim Cook does.
This is not a good look for him.
Adam, I'm going to come to you then.
I'm going to play the Griffin clip here.
Well, it's so obvious.
They tried to do Trump so dirty.
And why did they do that?
Because they didn't think he was ever coming back.
And, you know, he's bad kind of a thing.
You know, Trump, he's right about everything.
Look at this.
They all came after him.
They de-banked him.
They deplatformed him.
Legacy media attacked him like they always do.
Politicians abandoned him.
You know, Tucker Carlson, the tweet, the famous text message, I hate him with a passion.
I can't wait for the day he's gone.
He's back.
So we all see what's happening with that.
Why are they all piling on Biden now?
Because there's a 0% chance he's ever coming back.
And there's maybe a 1% chance that Kamala has ever seen or heard from again.
So of course they're going to pile on Biden.
This is actually the nature of healing.
Number two, remember when Eric Trump was here?
And he talked about, yes, they debanked us.
But when one door closes, another door opens.
That's why we're so big in the crypto space now.
Because we lost our banking.
Are you kidding me?
So there's always in America with free market capitalism, oh, you want to debank us?
Really, bro?
Boom.
Crypto.
You got it.
And now they're going to do that.
You got to be careful.
So here's the last part.
Yes, Bank of America.
I'm sorry, Chase should be held accountable.
The most famous line, in my opinion, that Jamie Dimon has ever said.
He goes, listen, I have a lot of liberal friends.
They all have big hearts and very small brains.
And this is something that he's going to be dealing with with his customer base, with the president.
You know, what percentage of his customers hate Trump?
Probably half of them.
So he's going to have to maneuver this very well.
I got you.
Let's play this Ken Griffin clip, and I want to wrap it up on this.
Go ahead, Rob.
This is Ken Griffin of Citadel, billionaire, super successful, moved his business from Chicago down to Miami.
Here's what he has to say about Biden's administration.
You cannot imagine how painful it was each and every day under the Biden administration to look at what new crazy proposal was being put into place to solve a problem that didn't even exist.
I mean, our constant friction at Citadel with the government across umpteen different aspects of our business was exhausting.
And to have that literally end on one day, election day, just gives you so much energy as an entrepreneur to go back and build your damn business.
So the biggest sea change I've seen across executives has been just like the giant sigh of relief.
I can now go and focus on building my business.
And that prior administration, you know, we happen to be a creditor of Spirit.
Their merger with JetBlue was stopped.
Spirit's in bankruptcy today.
There were so many decisions that were so, so poorly thought out in terms of economic consequences.
It cost the U.S. economy dearly.
I cannot emphasize that all of you.
Oh, I love it.
So the Trump administration is making slow progress on deregulation thus far, but the end of the regulatory onslaught has been just an extraordinary boom for American business.
Tom, I'll just come to you on this one.
Your thoughts on what Ken just said.
Well, I love it.
And God bless you, Ken Griffin, for coming down to 830 Brickell and building headquarters number one.
And he's building headquarters number two, I believe at 1201 Brickell.
I drive by there, and I just can't wait because those are going to be symbols of capitalism.
And more importantly, they were symbols of decisions.
Listen to the passion in his voice.
Just getting back to run my business.
This is not a billionaire with 10 yachts doing nothing.
This is a guy that still wants to make a difference and drive it.
And by the way, let me paint a picture for you.
Let me paint a picture for you.
They were a creditor to Spirit Airlines.
That means that Citadel had all the people that put their money with Citadel, family offices, endowments from colleges, all the people that come to Ken Griffin and say, you make decisions on where to put my money and invest it.
And one of those things they did, they did bonds for Spirit Airlines.
And when Spirit Airlines wasn't allowed to merge and you would have had them absorbed into another airline and then Southwest over here, you still would have had low-cost airline choices for the American traveler, still would have had choices, plus Delta, plus United, plus American, plus those are the majors.
And, you know, JetBlue, you would have still had all that, Pat.
But you know what happened there?
That wasn't government money that was in those bonds.
That was investor money.
And when he says, this is what you did to the American economy, when the Biden administration blocked that merger for whatever reason, someone didn't give enough to a campaign, perhaps, those families and those endowments and those things lost money.
And Citadel had to restructure the bonds and do things.
That's a guy with passion.
And I love him giving the facts, the truth, and telling the story of how terrible leadership at the federal level impacts the whole economy.
You ready for this, Tom?
Let me break you down for you.
I'm in Chicago at the St. Regis.
I just opened up right by the lake.
Beautiful, beautiful property right on the water next to great restaurants.
And we're there at a Goldman Sachs event.
That's when they gave me the entrepreneur, the award, whatever it was, the event I went to two, three years ago.
You remember this one?
Did you go with me on this one or no?
I was not with you on that one.
Okay, so I go to this one.
Oh, somebody didn't let you go on that one.
That's right.
So it's an inside joke.
So I go to that one.
Okay, he knows what I'm talking about.
I'm suing him for $5 billion.
Yeah, that's right.
So do you know the entire time what they talked about at this event?
What?
Ken Griffin leaving.
That's all they talked about.
We lost Ken Griffin.
We lost.
Everybody was talking Ken Griffin, Ken Griffin.
Chicago lost Ken Griffin.
They could have kept him.
Bad policies is pushing people like that out.
And guess who's the beneficiary of getting Ken Griffin?
South Florida, Miami, Florida won by getting Ken Griffin.
Send a great logical player that's investing, that just wants to do business and do deals to your market.
You want him.
You know who's losing people like that?
A guy named Gavin Newsome, who, if you ask Chad GBT what is Gavin Newsom's greatest accomplishment, it says homelessness initiative.
Can you imagine the greatest accomplishment?
Even Chad GBT can't come up with an accomplishment.
I asked Bill Maher on, you know, if you remember that clip, I'm like, tell me what he's done.
Tell me what he's accomplished.
I just like the guy.
By the way, since then, he's flipped on him.
Really?
So he's not as supportive of Newsom as he used to be.
But what's the point?
You cannot lose people like this.
You're losing great.
Pritzker was the governor when he lost Ken Griffin.
No?
Pritzker's been there for a minute.
Of course.
Pritzker loses Griffin.
And Laurie Lightbrain.
Lightfoot.
California Newsome loses Musk, loses Sergey Brin, loses the Google Market.
Loses Jamal.
Loses.
A trillion of family wealth.
Sachs loses a bunch of these guys that are leaving because of bad policies.
The only question right now, when you think about this, as we're getting to 2028, are Americans going to remember this?
And the year that's going to matter the most, my prediction, 2028, I think riots are going to be back up.
Protesting is going to be to the roof.
They're going to need to get another George Floyd be-good story that's going to be massively chaotic to see how chaotic it is under Trump.
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Trump can do everything right in 25, 26, 27.
28, they have to show chaos to make sure Newsome gets in there and Vance and Rubio don't stand a chance.
But again, we'll see what happened.
I actually thought this Davos was a very eventful event.
A lot of things happened.
A lot of good things were revealed.
And the world has to make a decision what direction they want to go to.
Do you want to go to Newsome route?
Do you want to go this way?
And I hope these, you know, behind closed doors, I hope JD and Rubio are working on having more victories the next couple of years because they're not going to stop playing for the 2028.
Anyways, Efren, great having you on.
This was a blast.
Thank you.
We had a good time with you at dinner yesterday.
And you actually did great.
I got to tell you guys, we'll have experts on who are known influencers, and they're breathing hard just sitting here before we get started.
Cool as a cucumber.
The guy's just been sitting here like he's been doing this for 20 years.
Chilling.
Calm, relaxed, chill.
Good for you.
When is your birthday, by the way?
What month?
June 6th.
June 6th.
All right.
So very calm.
Is that a Gemini?
Gemini.
That's a Gemini.
Yes.
Very cool, calm.
Last night we're sitting there.
You know, Vinny right off the bat tells him to pull a prank, and that didn't work.
It backfired.
It backfired.
Because the story was a little too real.
Hilarious.
And Efren couldn't act with that thing because, you know, one investment back in the days.
I invested in Nike back in the days, made good returns.
Thank you for the first person account of working at SpaceX.
That was fascinating.
Gang.
My pleasure.
I'm going to do an Iran podcast tomorrow.
Are we live streaming that?
Yes, sir.
I'm going to do an Iran podcast tomorrow.
I have a pro-monarchy guy that is very much pro-Reza Palavi.
And I have a pro-Republican guy, not a monarchy, that'll be coming here tomorrow to discuss Iran because there's a lot of things.
I've been wanting to do an Iran podcast with everything that's going on.