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Rob, at the end of the title, it doesn't say what episode it is, what number it is.
So let's add that to it.
Okay, 617.
Gang, good to be with you.
Story-wise, lots going on.
Again, there's this guy who became the 45th and the 47th president that decided yesterday to call a group of his voters.
What's the word?
What page is this?
He called them stupid people, or I'm trying to find a word.
Where's this at?
Oh, stupid people.
So we'll talk about that.
I don't know if it's a good idea to, you know, call your customers stupid or call your voters stupid, but maybe it's a strategy none of us have thought about that's going to be extremely strategic that we will definitely talk about in today's podcast.
Then we have Trump unveils more than $100 billion in AI energy energy investments as part of a major push for U.S. to lead innovation over China.
Apple backs Donald Trump in rare earth minerals push by investing $500 million in U.S. mine.
Ukrainians prey Agent Melania for turning Trump against Putin.
What a weird story.
Okay.
Trump disapproval rating hits record for second term.
Tom's got some thoughts on that.
I am sold on Trump.
Ken Langone, who's an absolute beast of a guy, $4 or $5 billion guy, major business leader, reveals turnaround on views about Trump and tariffs.
When Ken Langone speaks, people listen.
This guy's the NYU, I think the one the hospitals is named after him, and he's given a lot of money to charity.
Joe Rogan rips DOJ's handling of Epstein files and scathing rant against Trump administration.
But not to worry, folks, because if you've seen the show, what is the show with Netflix, House of Cards, Kevin Spacey is demanding the release of the Epstein files.
You know when Kevin Spacey comes out saying that, it's going to be released.
I just want to let you know.
Kevin is here.
And so some good news.
Suddenly, Republicans' lead is gone.
GOP pollster describes how Elon Musk's America Party changes midterms.
Queer pop star, Boy George.
Remember that?
Do you really?
He's still gay.
Come a, come a, come, come.
Come, come, look, come.
Tom works out to that song.
He was playing it when he walked.
It's always motivation.
Yeah.
Identity politics has not helped anyone, says boy George.
Chinese buyers grabbing up American homes.
Border crossing plummets to historic lows.
Trump's enforcement policy yield big results.
Assaults on ICE officers search 830% as Democrats caught doxing and physically assaulting agents.
This is from the DHS.
Tom's got some thoughts on that.
Ethiopian asylum seeker.
Ready for this?
Charged with three sexual assaults in two days, a week after arriving in UK on small boat after angry protests at Migrant Hotel.
What a beautiful and safe place to be right now, to be in the UK.
14 people arrested after anti-migrant riots in southern Spain.
Oh, that's what you thought I was asking about.
Got it.
JP Morgan is now worth more than three largest rival companies combined, and Jamie Dimon's got a monopoly going on there.
JP Morgan Seal reveals what's keeping American economy strong despite global challenges.
And Besant is not top Fed candidate, but very good, Trump says.
Trump doesn't like it if people know what his next moves are.
So he'll find a way to deflect and confuse people.
Even though it may be still Besant.
Who knows?
Hassett grabs poll position and race to be Trump's new Fed chair.
Barack Obama finally seen with his wife.
Shocking.
And he was on the podcast.
Yeah.
And they, right after that, went into the divorce rumors.
And the way they spoke, it sounds like they're separated the way they were talking about.
Did you see the hug, the body language, and they came in?
look like they hadn't seen each other in months is what it looked like but you know well and you know you know what he said Men need a gay friend to show.
I'm going to show it later.
Barack goes, everybody needs a gay friend.
So you're friends with Barack?
He gave me a lot of things.
He gave a list of four things that young men need.
Listen, we know Adam's okay with that.
We just talked about that.
Always.
And by the way, there may be a new podcast being started by Adam and Ben and Dave Rubin.
No, Portnoy.
Portnoy, according to Nick Fuentes.
The three best friends.
That's the three best friends that anybody can have.
Shout out to the barstool in the Daily Barbara Entertainment Alignment.
Host Lashout at Obama Cuban for scolding Democrats.
Whoopi is pissed at Mark Cuban and Obama.
Oh, Whoopee.
The White House launches probe into the Autopen use and major escalational cover of controversy.
Biden tells the New York Times he did not individually prove name of many pardoned via Autopen.
Scandal of the century.
Josh Hawley demands Biden's staff secretary testify to Congress on Autopen.
Rand Paul doubles down on holding Anthony Fauci accountable.
Mark Cuban rips Zohran Mamdani's pledges to freeze rent, make groceries cheap.
None of that shit has a chance, says Mark Cuban.
Joy Reed claims MAGA voters will sacrifice their daughters to please Trump.
All right, so that's that so far.
And then on this side, Trump terminates federal funding for California's $135 billion high-speed rail boondoggle, trained to nowhere.
And Trump was re-elected with help from podcasters like Rogan.
Is he losing their support over Epstein and Iran?
That's ABC News.
Trump calls MagoBay stupid people.
Gavin Newsom says he can't say whether eight is too young for transition genders.
Is this the one with Sean Reinrob?
Yes, sir.
Holy moly.
Evangelicals rehearse ancient Red Hat for Ritual Linked to Jerusalem Temple Prophecy.
Chicago Public Schools District cut 1,450 jobs, target teachers and special education support amid $734 million deficit.
We'll go into that as well.
And turn gyms into homeless shelters for illegal aliens.
And did you see the CEO of Astro Astronomer getting caught on those Jumbotron like his cams with his HR and he's married?
Did you seriously?
Yeah.
You see this now?
Rob me and Rob Subscribe.
Do they have clothes on?
Because we can't.
No, they have clothes on.
But when you see it, you're not going to believe it.
Okay.
Okay, we'll show it.
But we'll do that.
I just want to make sure I don't want you to show something then all of a sudden.
No, no, no, no.
It's real.
Okay.
All right.
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All right.
First story I want to go into is with Ken Langone, okay?
With everything that's going on, with everything that's happening with Epstein, with everything that's going on with the fumble that we're talking about, when you look at policies, how policies are being implemented by the president, there's a lot of big victories that they're having.
And Ken Langone, okay, one of the Home Depot founders, multi-billionaire, wrote a book called I Love Capitalism, phenomenal book, said the following of what's going on with Trump.
He said, I am sold on Trump.
Rob, if you can play this clip, here's Ken Langone.
Look, let me tell you right now, I am sold on Trump.
In fact, I'll say this.
I think if you had a good shot at going down in history as one of our best presidents ever.
Bingo.
That is a real turnaround because you didn't want to vote for him.
I told you the reason.
I want to tell you, I'm a believer.
What I'm seeing happening is absolutely nothing short of a great thing.
And there's a beat.
People are walking with more bounce.
It's all around.
I gave you quite a bit of grief.
Huh?
I gave you grief.
You gave me grief?
I gave you grief when it was a binary choice.
You're still complaining about Trump and it was a binary choice.
It's like, are you kidding me?
Knowledge implies one thing.
When you made a mistake, admit it.
Okay.
Good for him.
I think this guy is turning out to be a president.
Like, one of the pilots on that miraculous trip to Iran that we wiped out, whatever the hell we wiped out.
He said, you're the only guy in the presidency that would have done what you did.
One of the pilots said that.
And you know what?
He's probably right.
By the way, I said $4 billion guy.
He's a $9 billion guy.
Ken Langone says it makes a comment like this about Trump and everything that's going on.
This guy's given $300 million to NYU School of Medicine.
$200 million gifts made to 2008 and 2018.
He's not a Trump guy.
This is what most people don't realize.
This is a guy that gave $10 million to the Stearns part-time NBA program, $11 million donated to Bucknell University, $5 million to the Animal Medical Center in New York.
This guy's been given money for, he's given nearly over a half a billion dollars of his wealth away.
Okay, is what he's done.
And he wrote a book, I love capitalism.
There's a story in there I want to tell, but I want to first go to Adam with this, and then I'll tell the story.
Go ahead, Adam.
Your thoughts on this story.
So I believe this is a major function of Trump's third term.
We don't have any other presidents in our lifetime who've basically said, listen, time out.
You're going to go sit on the bench for four years, study, come back, and do better your second time around.
Trump 2.0 is a masterclass versus Trump 1.0 was sort of a train wreck.
He knows where all the quote-unquote bodies are buried this time.
He knows what's going on in the swamp.
He knows what's going on in the Republican side of things.
He knows what's going on in the Democratic side of things.
So you're going to just do better.
When he came into office, when we had Eric Trump here, I said, how much more equipped are you guys this time around than the first time around?
He goes, oh, it's not even close.
And he full-on admitted we had no clue what we were doing.
And that's the reality of this situation.
Trump is now basically on his 10th year of being the president of the United States, and he's implementing his agenda.
And here's the kicker: he don't give a shit if certain people don't like certain things.
He's not running for re-election.
He doesn't basically have that worry where, oh, people are going to upset me.
Trump has thick skin.
Everyone criticized Trump for having thin skin the first time around.
Oh, he's thin skin.
He's attacking everybody.
He can't let anything go.
At this point, the only thing he's still attacking the first time around was Rosie O'Donnell.
At this point, he's like, I don't care.
Say what you want to say.
And it's giving cover for his agenda.
There's a lot of people upset with Trump for certain things these days that were not in his top 20 list.
And he basically says, I don't give a shit.
I'm going to do what I want to do.
I'm going to win.
America is going to be great again.
And everyone else who was doubting him is now falling in line and lockstep.
Tom, your thoughts on this story.
I'll tell you, first of all, hats off to Ken Langon because he's showing leadership that is tough, direct, and humble without being weak.
And he plainly says, you know what?
You know how many decisions this guy has made in his life, key decisions, Home Depot and the business he's run, and they get it wrong.
If they get it right every time, in 15 years, you could have a monopoly in any market.
If every single decision you make is right.
And he's coming out saying, you know what?
I didn't sew him.
Becky Quick called him on that.
He says, I didn't.
And I'm supporting him now.
I think he's getting it right.
And there was a quote that wasn't in the video that Ken made, which I thought was interesting.
He says, I think, damn it, give Trump credit.
His instincts are good.
And there are things that need to be fixed.
And so look what he's focusing on.
Make a decision, Mr. President, and let's fix something.
And you're not going to get it right every time.
And I think that's just, that's strong.
And I agree with what Adam just said as echoed because I sat right here when Eric Trump said, it isn't even close.
We have a different vetting process.
We have learned.
We got things going.
And so now it's on a different thing.
But this is only one side of what's going on right now.
So you could look at this.
You could look at the AI energy investment.
You look at Apple putting a half a billion dollars into the rare earth minerals in Las Vegas project.
You look all these things have happened the last three days that are wins, Pat, that are big W's, but there's this cloud.
Yeah, there's this cloud.
And by the way, let me tell you a story about Ken Langon.
This is why guys like Mamdani, AOC, all of these guys, when they talk about capitalism, socialism, communism, whatever they want to talk about, Ken tells a story about capitalism about the fact that his dad died at 62 years old.
And he says, my dad died at 62 from the same issues that I had, but in my late 50s, give or take, I'm going to get the age wrong.
I was on blood thinners.
And blood thinners, if my dad had access to blood thinners, which were not around when he died at 62, my dad would have lived to 80, 90 years old.
By the way, do you know how old Ken Langon is right now?
99 years old.
89.
What's his age?
1935, 89.
He'll be 90 years old in less than a month.
In exactly two months, he'll be 90 years old.
Because of blood thinners, how did blood thinners come out because of capitalism?
Why is it because of capitalism?
There's an incentive to create a solution for a problem, certain ways of getting that blood thinner around.
My dad's been on blood thinners for God knows how many years.
He's 83 years old.
So common sense prevails.
And I love the fact that he says I was wrong.
This guy's doing the right job.
Now, let's go to the next part.
Last night, we're at the boardroom till 11 o'clock at night with some interesting people who are connected on the political side.
And we're having conversation.
I'm like, hey, one of the guys that was there, I said, what's up with this Epstein stuff?
Why is he not letting this go?
You screwed up.
You had a fumble, but you're not letting it go.
You keep bringing it back up.
There is not a single person that's bringing more attention to the Epstein than Trump.
Not one.
There isn't anybody that's bringing more attention to this than him.
Okay.
And then he comes out yesterday and he calls megabase stupid people and gullible weaklings over Epstein files.
Rob, I don't know if you have this clip or not.
The radical left Democrats have hits.
Is that the one or no?
This is his truth social post, and then he commented as well.
I have the videos.
Do you have the video?
Play the video first of stupid people because, you know, I want to know the strategy behind saying something like this.
Go ahead, Rob.
What evidence have you seen?
It's not the attorney general.
No, I know it's a hoax.
It's started by Democrats.
It's been run by the Democrats for four years.
You had Christopher Wray and these characters and Comey before him.
And it's a bad group.
He started Comey and Steele does.
He made a turn on Epstein.
The 51 agents agents were a hoax.
It's all been a big hoax that's perpetrated by the Democrats.
And some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net.
And so they try and do the Democrats' work.
The Democrats are good for nothing other than these hoaxes.
They're bad for policy.
They're bad for picking candidates that can get elected.
Like in New York, we have a communist running.
He may get elected too, actually, but he's going to destroy the city.
No, no, I call it the Epstein hoax.
It takes a lot of time and effort.
Instead of talking about the great achievements we've had.
Pause it right there, Rob.
Okay.
So, Tom, one end, resume, a lot of victories.
On this end, Epstein, he's not letting it go.
Now he's calling stupid people.
I've not heard a strategy where you call your customer stupid or you call your voter base stupid.
How do you process this?
Well, I have trouble with it.
I have trouble with the word stupid and hoax.
So it was not a hoax when Southern District in New York, in cooperation with Florida authorities, found 22 girls that were in the original indictment.
We're talking about the Epstein's Florida indictment.
Which was in the early 2000s, has nothing to do with Russia, Comey, none of that bullshit that he's talking about.
But it was girls going to the island, girls here, things that happened, and it was all there.
And then a prosecutor dropped it down to one charge of solicitation and then like solicitation with intent.
The whole thing was dropped down, stuck in a drawer.
But the data was there.
The evidence was there.
All of that was there.
So that part was not a hoax.
You take a look at, you know, the Crown, England.
They were upset with Prince Andrew.
The picture was real.
The encounter was real.
Things had happened with there.
That was not a hoax.
He was over there with Epstein and Virginia Griffery, and that's happened.
That's not a hoax.
So it's not a hoax.
It's not like the Steele dossier that was a pack of paper that was proved to be fraudulently written, and it was a hoax.
You've got all these things that have happened.
So I have a problem with the word hoax.
You know, you could say overplayed, overblown.
You can say a lot of things, but hoax.
But then, you know, calling people stupid, they're not stupid.
They want answers.
They want to know about JFK.
They want to know about RFK, a senior.
They want to know about MLK.
You know, did we, through intelligence agencies, FBICA, have a hand in doing things to our own?
And then yes, they want to know what the hell is going on with Epstein.
And then to say you're all dumb and you're falling for a hoax.
I don't know if that's how you energize your base or you get the base to move in a certain direction.
Well, listen, saying all the loser and all that stuff, we've been hearing that talk, but to say I don't want your support anymore.
I've been here fairly close to me, like two feet away from me.
Very, very losers.
There's a lot of losers around here.
These are stupid people.
Yeah, but right in this.
I don't want to interrupt you.
Not so much here.
Not so much here.
But right here.
Yeah.
Loserville.
What a shitty, sorry thing to say.
Like, people like us, people like me, people like you, people like Tom, that have been ride or die with this guy for 10 years through all the smear jobs, all the witch hunt, all the hit pieces, Russia collusion, Hillary's bullshit, impeachment one, impeachment two, fake indictments, lawfare, COVID, all the jab mandates, all that people lost everything.
We lost jobs.
We lost families.
People died.
People were censored.
Blacklisted just for saying his name.
I was in California, guys.
I was in the belly of the beast of the biggest Trump-hating red hat, punching people in the face.
That whole thing.
I'm not taking it away from him.
He's the president.
He's gone through a ridiculous journey, including getting shot in the head.
Okay.
All right.
We were in the trenches with you.
Okay.
And now what?
Because we're questioning one thing: Jeffrey Epstein, suddenly we're the enemy.
We're the losers.
We're the idiots.
Look away.
Shut up.
It's Russia collusion.
That's horse shit.
Okay.
Epstein's been going on since early 2000s.
What?
Maybe even the 90s, he was doing this perverted stuff.
You don't get to do that.
I'm sorry.
And everybody always thinks that we're all on the Trump train and we don't have any criticism.
I'm sorry, bro.
You don't do that shit.
You don't spit in our faces.
Everything that we've been through, Pat, I've lost not only friendships, I've lost family members.
I don't even talk to anymore because of this shit.
And then you're going to come out and tell us, like, I don't need your support.
I don't need you.
Okay.
Have that attitude.
And you're going to see it.
Make these people lose.
2006, the midterms, you're going to lose that type of freaking support.
And anybody attached to his name, if Eric tries to run, if anybody with the Trump name 2028 tries to run, this is going to be hanging over the head because now the trust is lost.
Okay.
We're the idiots.
You think it's going to hurt the entire last name?
100%.
And I'm going to be this guy, Pat.
We cannot let this shit go.
I'm actually happy.
I'm happy.
I know people are probably like, we're tired of it.
Move on.
We're on, what's today?
Thursday?
I'm so happy that we're still talking about this.
We're only talking about it because he's talking about it.
Thank you.
So guess what?
And I'm sorry?
Shut up about it.
You should have just said, guys, it's done.
It's over.
But it's, getting back to the root, Pat, getting back to the root.
What changed?
What happened?
Something shifted.
There was an all of a sudden, no, you guys are idiots.
Shut up.
I have an idea.
I have one too.
And I think the majority of the people know what it has.
I don't know because the relationship.
I knew what it is.
What is it?
I don't know.
No, I mean, there's so many layers to it.
But I'm starting to piece everything together.
And it's like something shifted.
All of a sudden, this relationship, all this goes back to me, to BB and Israel and Mossad, because Trump was going and I'm just Adam.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
Keep going.
Connecting the dots makes me that guy.
It's like, I don't think that's the case.
I think that's one of the main things.
No, I think it's one of a handful of things.
I don't think that's the main one.
So what would you think is?
I think it's one of handful of things.
Here's Rogan, by the way.
You want to play the clip with Rogan?
Here's what you'll have to say about the deal with Epstein.
They've got videotape and all of a sudden they don't.
You know, you have the director of the FBI on this show saying there's no tape.
If there was, nothing you're looking for is on those tapes.
Like, what?
Why did they say there was thousands of hours of tapes of people doing horrible shit?
Why did they say that?
Right.
Didn't Pam Bondi say that?
Are you talking about Epstein or did he?
Yeah, Epstein.
Yeah, she said it literally, I think a week before you had the FBI.
So you're here now, this conversation being all over the place.
Kevin Stacey's coming out saying, release the files, Alan Dershowitz, release the files, all this stuff that, you know, release.
Speaker Johnson was, is this the one about him talking about Epstein?
Yes, he was.
Yet a different position he was taking here.
Go ahead and play this clip.
I'm for transparency.
We're intellectually consistent in this.
Look, Reagan used to tell us we should trust the American people.
I believe in that principle.
I know President Trump does as well.
And I trust him.
I mean, he put together a team of his choosing, and they're doing a great job.
It's a very delicate subject, but we should put everything out there and let the people decide it.
I mean, the White House and the White House team are privy to facts that I don't know.
This isn't my lane.
I haven't been involved in that.
But I agree with the sentiment that we need to put it out there.
And, you know, Pam Bondi.
I don't know.
So it's to the point that everybody is being forced to talk about it.
Byron Donalds was asked about it yesterday.
Everybody is being asked about it.
You don't have a choice by being asked about it.
But do you remember when who was somebody that came to the White House that offered the president something that's never happened before to go to UK?
And do you remember that entire exchange when Starmer was in the White House, Rob, and he's saying, we want to extend an invitation for you to come to and Trump's reaction to it?
I remember the meeting by North America.
This is such a big deal.
You know, we've never done this before.
This is the first time we're extending this invitation for you to come.
You don't remember this?
This is when he visited and he extended an invite.
I'm surprised you guys don't remember this.
He hands him an envelope.
Okay.
He hands him an envelope.
This was in February.
Yeah, that's it.
He hands him an envelope and he says, we're extending an invite for you to come to UK to allow you to experience something that no president has ever experienced before.
Is this when he takes the envelope out?
Press play?
Yeah, this is it.
It is my pleasure to bring from His Majesty the King a letter.
He sends his best wishes and his regards, of course.
But he also asked me to bear this letter and bring it to you.
So can I present a letter from the king?
Thank you very much.
Am I supposed to read it right now?
What did I do?
What did I do with this letter?
I will do.
I've got to tell him what your reaction is.
I need to know.
He is a great gentleman.
A great, great gentleman.
Oh, that's wild.
Well, that is really nice.
I must make sure his signature is on that.
Otherwise, it's not quite as meaningful.
It is.
That's quite a signature, isn't it?
Beautiful.
And he's a beautiful man, a wonderful man, and we appreciate it.
I've known him, gotten to know him very well, actually.
First term and now second term.
You've got to like to say what that very important paragraph is.
Yeah, so this is a letter from His Majesty the King.
It's an invitation for a second state visit.
This is really special.
This has never happened before.
This is unprecedented.
Stay with me here.
The King invitation never happened before.
U.S. president.
Who has been the most famous name on the Epstein list?
Prince Andrew.
And what is he linked to?
He's the king's little brother.
He's the king's bingo.
And who is extending that invite?
And who encouraged him to do it?
And who's most worried about the reputation of the royalty, royal family over there?
The king.
Who more than the king?
The brother.
The brother, I get that.
But the mother, the family.
The late queen was irate and stuck Andrew in hiding for six months.
Yeah, his punishment for pedophilia was you can't speak in public.
That's right.
But let me tell you, the reputation of the family is on the line.
100%.
Known as the crown.
That's right.
So to me, Trump is sitting there and he is getting these bigger opportunities because he's now pursuing history.
And pursuing history, he is being asked by others.
I think there's a part of it that's blackmail.
That's the Mossad part.
Israel.
I think there's a part of it that's an exchange of a favor.
Make this go away.
We will do something with you and bring you to UK that's never been done before.
The legacy part, their links to founding fathers are originally from where?
Founding fathers fought what?
The tyranny of King George.
The tyranny of King George.
So he is being, this is his way to be linked back to find a way to have an upper on George Washington.
There is some legacy stuff that's on the line here for me.
So if they're saying, hey, I'm willing to do this, exchange, this has got to go away, our son, no problem.
Let me get to work.
Let me see what I can do.
That's another pure speculation on the link with UK.
The Mossad part, I mean, anybody that says you don't know, you never know.
Dude, the guy's girl accomplice, Jelaine Maxwell, just Lane Maxwell's father's Robert Maxwell.
Oh, God.
His ties with Mossad are installed.
His ties with media companies and Masada.
It's just documented.
It's not that it's not.
And by the way, the Epstein stuff is very weird.
Do you know Lex Wexner?
Am I saying the name correctly?
Okay.
Do you know Lex Wexner, who he had as his power of attorney that could make decisions on everything about his assets and money?
You know who he gave power of attorney to?
Lex Wexner?
Can you type in, did Lex Wexner give power of attorney to Epstein?
Type in, did Lex Wexner, if you can ask it in chat, GBT, did Lex Wexner give power of attorney to Epstein?
So watch this here.
At one point, he gave a formal— Wow.
Look at this.
What?
Lex Wexner gave a full power of attorney to Epstein in 1991.
Why?
This guy's a $10 billion guy today.
The legal authority granted Epstein sweeping control of Wexner's personal finances, including the ability to hire staff, sign checks, buy and sell properties, and borrow money.
Do you know what ends up happening with Wexner and Epstein?
So you know how they always talk about the fact that Epstein had the most expensive residence in Manhattan?
Do you know how he got the most, do you know the story?
No, I honestly don't.
Lex Wexner gifted him a $77 million most expensive, biggest residence in Manhattan.
Gifted him.
Validated.
Gifted a $70 million house.
Did Les Wexner gift Jeffrey Epstein the most expensive private residence in Manhattan?
Private resident in Manhattan.
Watch this.
Did he?
Let's see, maybe.
$70 million.
I think it was $77 million.
Yes.
At the time, he bought it at $13.2 million.
When he gave it to him, Raporio Epstein formerly acquired the house from Wexner, probably around $20 million, and he gave it to him as a form of a gift, zero dollars.
Today it's valued at $56 to $77 million.
Why would he gift him?
I mean, on every day we get gifts like this.
Now, what is Lex Wexner tied to?
What controversy does Lex Wexner have?
Victoria's Secret.
lot of stuff that this guy's got controversy tied to him so now you you go to you know his property in new mexico are you familiar with uh jeffrey epstein's property in new mexico No one's familiar with that.
No, but not to cut you off.
Is that Pat?
That location is in Manhattan, correct?
Yes.
Do you know who his next door neighbor was?
Who?
You'll never guess.
Who?
He was just in that video next to Trump on the tarmac.
Howard Luttnick.
Ask, is Howard Luttnick neighbors with Jeffrey Epstein in New York on 11 East Street, 71st Street?
I don't know the link between those two.
No, I'm saying they're literally next door to Nicola.
Listen, bro, when you're somebody saying, did you know Patrick B. David is neighbors with Messi?
I don't think that's true.
It's because they're the only guys that can afford the neighborhood with Jeffrey Epstein.
I get that, but let me continue a little bit more.
Do you know Epstein had one property that nobody talks about, the 8,000-acre Zorro Ranch in New Mexico?
I've heard of it through you, but I never did that.
If you type in this property, it's 8,000 acres.
Do you know what he was doing here?
Transhumanism.
What's that?
Okay, so he was trying to find a way to pass his DNA and populate Epstein kids through his DNA.
So he was interested in eugenics and a bunch of different things, and he had multiple helipads.
There's a lot of weird things.
Do you know two days before he allegedly killed himself is when he created a trust that he moved his $577 million to called the 1953 Trust?
Do you know he did that two days before he killed himself?
There are just too many weird things.
So two days before you commit suicide.
And it's still active?
It's still active.
And by the way, that money, that $577 million in that trust is still moving till today.
It went all the way down to $40 million.
It just got another $114 million.
I think it's around $150 million right now.
And it's moving.
So that trust is constantly moving.
It's called the 1953 Trust.
Two days before, there you go.
Two days before his death, he signed a new will that transferred his entire fortune to this trust called the 1953 Trust.
Two days before, little suspects.
Just too many things that are suspect.
So the more and more and more the president brings attention to it, the more and more and more causes average day-to-day people to research to get a little bit deeper and say, by the way, think about the people that take one story to be interested in Epstein.
Then think about people that need five people to mention it to be interested in Epstein.
Then think about people that need 50 people.
Then think about people that were never interested, the bottom 50% that now the president keeps talking about.
You're forcing those guys to not be interested.
You're doing it because you keep talking about it.
No one's bringing more attention to this than him.
So either release, fire a few people, release, you know, refocus your attention on all the great things that you're doing, or guess what?
Stop talking about it.
Make a choice.
One of those two.
Adam, thoughts?
I mean, there's so much to unpack here.
I'd like to play maybe a little game, if I may, before you tell me what's my point.
The point is I want to play a game.
And maybe this game is directed at Vinny, but I'd like your contribution.
Let's go as far as we possibly can down the rabbit hole.
I mean this.
Let's go to where you think this is going to lead.
Everyone's out there trying to, figuring it out.
Like, you ever seen Always Sunny?
Not really.
You ever seen Always Sunny?
Can you show that image?
Because this is kind of where I think we're headed.
Is Charlie from Always Sunny being like, Oh, you know, you know what's going on here?
This guy found him and he found him.
And it turned out, bro, you haven't slept in weeks.
I'm not saying that about you.
I'm saying when you go down, but what I want to do is talking about you.
Maybe I am talking about you.
My stupid loser friend, Vinny.
Go on.
Love you, bro.
But let's go down as far as you can.
Because as you know, I'll go down like the rabbit hole.
You can get there already.
Everyone can rant forever.
I go 30 seconds.
What's your point?
Get in your hole.
I'm done with that.
Not what's your point.
Get to the point.
I'm getting to the point, guys.
I want to go down the rabbit hole because I'll go take a look and be like, no, don't want to go now.
Get to the rabbit hole.
Sir, let's go down.
Like, where do you think this all leads?
Let's say all your convictions and all your questions.
Questions.
Where do you think it ends?
And once you find that answer, what then?
So let's go.
We find out actually what you think it is.
Say it.
Okay.
And then what happens then?
And then I want to understand what I think, Adam, Vincent O'Shaughnessy's opinion is that Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad agent working for a foreign country, setting up shop, getting blackmail on everybody.
Singers, actors, politicians, everybody under the sun, maybe even a sitting president.
Adam, I don't know.
He visited the White House.
Let's just say that.
They take all that footage.
And mind you, this is a Mossad, Israel-approved blackmail ring to have men sex traffic children, women, men, kids, whatever, have sex with these people, have all the footage, have all the files.
So then, Adam, once they're all gone, you can use it for policy, make this law to affect our policy, okay?
No, all the victims, everything, all, you know, they're never going to get any justice.
Then the guy who was running it, either he suicided himself or something happened to him, or in the three minutes of that footage that was doctored multiple times from Adobe Pro, by the way, they're the worst at covering their tracks.
Maybe he walked out of the cell because some people are saying the photo of him laying there with his hook nose isn't even really him.
Hold on.
No, I'm saying his nose.
No, the guy, the guy that they switched out, they're saying, oh, bye.
I'm just telling you all the options, Adam.
Let's go.
Keep going.
So that guy and he's suicide.
So now people want to know, like, who has all this footage?
Because the FDA.
Do me a favor, Rob.
Show me that one image again.
Yo.
Oh, the one of Charlie.
Yeah.
Keep going, Rob.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Keep going.
Okay.
So, and the FBI's chain of custody, guys.
I don't know if you know this or not.
The FBI's chain of custody is documented.
It's processed.
Evidence remains intact.
So in the Epstein case, the FBI seized Adam 300 gigabytes.
That's a lot.
Okay.
Data on his property, videos, hard drives, CDs labeled with disturbing titles, official records.
So Adam, the FBI has strict, crazy protocols.
What happened to all of it, Adam?
Hold on, hold on, Adam.
Whistleblowers even say that, you know, all of this was here.
Now, all of a sudden, Adam, it's all gone.
Okay, so you know what that means, Adam?
Mossad, Israel government has all the footage.
They have all the dirt and they're influencing our policy.
The president of the United States, the president of the United States, Adam, has flipped and changed his tune like that.
Like, hold on, like that.
So, Adam, I have a problem, and I'm pretty sure the majority of the losers and the idiots that you think are out here watching it are not comfortable, are not comfortable with our president, who we've been ride or die with him, now changing the tune, saying, you guys are losers.
I don't need your support anymore.
Because, Adam, I don't give a shit how many wins he stacked up.
Have all the, and I love that he's doing it for him to go, don't worry about the blackmail sex trafficking thing.
Just shut up about it because I've done so good for you.
That's like having a dad, Adam, that buys you the bike, gives you the ice cream, does everything for you.
But guess what, Adam?
He's sleeping with underage kids in the neighborhood, but who cares?
He gave you the bike.
He gave you the house.
He has a roof over your head.
I'm uncomfortable with that, Adam.
And that's why I know it drives you crazy.
1,200% of the internet.
No, no, no.
1,200% of the internet wants to know the truth.
And guess what?
Nobody believes him.
And nobody believes Adam that Masad didn't have anything to do with it.
Is that that guy's shoulder?
Show that picture, Rob?
That's me, Adam?
Oh, my God.
Adam, somebody asking questions and connecting dots.
That's who you think I am.
If you're wrong, if that may very well be wrong.
No, prove me wrong.
There's no fucking proof.
All right.
Where's the proof?
Okay, so we'll go around and circles.
Go ahead.
So let me just unpack this.
Masada's at the top of the list.
There's nobody bigger on this particular thing.
Meaning he was working for the show.
Oh, yeah.
So not CIA, not FBI.
So Masada, that's number one.
The guy's name is Jeffrey Epstein.
Ehud Barak and all these guys were visiting his apartment.
There's photos covering their faces leaving his house.
So because he's Jewish, obviously.
And the pop.
Okay, and hold on.
Hold on.
Because you want to go there.
Adam, as of late, has Donald Trump, who was beefing with Bibi because BB and them had Mike Waltz in a cabinet meeting texting Israel trying to get us into a war with Iran.
Trump was like, no.
He was like, hell no.
Went to the Middle East.
Didn't even visit him.
And then all of a sudden, Adam, I'm going to go to war.
I'm going to bomb.
And Epstein is all bullshit.
Weird, Adam.
Isn't that weird?
I'm going to ask some questions before.
Yeah.
So Masad's at the top of the list.
Yeah.
Bibi Netanyahu's controlling Trump.
And Israel is dictating policy America.
Hold on.
Is that what's going on?
So you don't think AIPAC in our AIPAC as well.
Okay.
Adam.
So it's not hard to put this together.
Obviously, it makes complete sense.
Yeah.
So Israel controls America.
Israel has very, very strong influence over our policy.
Okay.
Yes.
I'm sorry that it hurts.
Cool.
We did it.
We found out.
Well, hold on.
Hold on, Adam.
Does that make me anti-Semitic?
No, it makes you.
Does that make me hate Jewish people?
You haven't said one thing that might not be true.
You're probably 100% true.
But just in case you're not, let's say you're absolutely right.
You did it.
You, Vinny O'Shaughness, cracked the code.
If I can see that picture one more time.
You cracked the code.
You did it.
You did it.
Congratulations.
Masad, Epstein, Trump.
He's owned.
Now what?
What do you mean?
What do you want to do?
You crack the code.
Everybody that was involved, Adam, goes to jail.
There's a trial and you go to jail.
Look how easy that is.
And Adam, you know why it can be critical as well?
How much American dollars goes to Israel every year?
Anybody want to guess?
$4 million.
So you know what that means?
I can have any opinion I want because my money is invested in that group.
Well, there's a lot of countries that I can talk about all the time.
So let's talk about every other country there.
Jail.
Jail.
So Israel's the only country that receives Israel.
No, go back to your point.
What do I want?
Adam, I want jail.
And if God forbid the president of the United States was involved with it, guess what?
Same for him.
Which president?
Our president.
So you want Trump to go to jail.
If he was with underage girls, 1,000%.
So if Trump was with a 17-year-old.
I'll say it again.
When he was 40 years old, yes.
So you want to call pedophiles.
Hold on.
Let me ask you.
Is it illegal?
Can you have sex with a 17-year-old?
35 states the age is 16 and in certain states.
It's 18.
According to some Muslim scriptures, you could be nine.
So it's okay if he was in a different part of land hooking up with a 16-year-old.
Let me ask one last thing because, I mean, obviously, what I wanted you to do was just get it all out there.
Thank you for that.
You could be right.
You could be wrong.
So we want Trump to go to jail.
Israel's going to go to the house.
I didn't tell you.
Don't say that.
Anybody that was guilty of having sex with an underage child belongs to go to jail, including the operation that was blackmailing everybody.
They deserve to freaking.
I got it.
So now, where are you going?
Where are you going?
So, no, my point is, I don't know.
Accountability, Adam.
Listen, what I'm sick of people doing is skirting around the issues.
Just say how you feel.
I've been saying it for you.
So then last question.
Who do you trust more?
Donald Trump, JD Vance, Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi.
Who do I trust?
Or whoever's the loudest people on the internet, Tucker, Candace, Dave Smith.
Who do you trust more?
No, no, no, no.
It's a binary option.
Hold on.
Who do you trust?
Adam, I don't trust anybody that's lying to me blatantly in my face.
The correlation doesn't match because those guys are asking the questions, Adam.
They don't know either.
They don't know 100%, but you know what they want?
Stop bullshitting us.
He just nailed it.
Why do you keep talking about it?
We're talking about it because of you.
Okay, stop yelling.
Just because you're yelling, you're not.
No, it just pisses me off.
You can be loud and you can be wrong.
It's hard to be loud and show me where I'm wrong and I'll shut up.
But the point is, you're not right.
But here we go.
Where am I wrong?
Is Kash Patel lying?
He's not.
100% he's lying.
So 100% Kash Patel's a liar.
From what he said, from what he said, Adam, he was in the administration.
He said they had all of it.
Is Dan Bongino a liar?
Yes, yeah, he did, Adam.
Yeah, he did.
Is Pam Bondi a liar?
Yes.
Blatantly lying in front of our face.
Is Trump a liar?
I think so, Adam.
Is JD Vance?
I think they're all lying to us, Adam.
Okay.
So even if it's a little lie, how about this?
They're all liars.
Who's right?
Because you've probably absorbed a lot of content on X, I assume.
I know X is your thing.
Who's right out there?
Who's your?
You've already gone 99%.
Let's go 100%.
This person, this person, this person.
I trust them.
Adam, who is it?
I don't trust anybody.
100%.
Who do you give the most?
Adam, here's my thing.
Here's my thing.
Who do you give the most credibility to?
Because he's asking you questions.
So you're saying those people are lying.
If they're lying, who's lying less?
Yeah.
Who's telling the truth?
You were willing to say that the director of the USA.
When the FBI, the president of the United States, are all liars.
100%.
Who's more right than them?
Bongino lying.
Trump, you're like, I think if that's 100%, who's 100% telling the truth?
Well, all the victims that were out there, hold on.
All the FBI reports.
But name names.
But name names.
Katrick and Gufri.
Gufrey.
Who said, hold on, since we're going to go back to Prince Andrew, she was underage and the prince was there having sex with me.
Time out.
No, hold on.
Time out.
I believe her.
And I believe the rest of the victims, Adam, that all of a sudden we don't know where they are.
But the victims don't know what the top, top Mossad intelligence was.
So who do you think knows those answers?
Adam.
It's easy to say.
Listen to me.
Trump, Dan Bongino, Kash Patel.
They all know what is going on.
But who do you trust them?
Is it Candace?
Is it Tucker?
Is it Dave Smith?
Is it Dan Bilzerian?
Who do you think is this guy knows what he's talking about?
Who's that person?
Adam.
Is it you?
I trust my for all the stuff that I'm seeing, all the stuff that I'm reading, all the dots that we can.
You think because to me, to me, the moment, like if you pull out power versus force rap, the chart, which one of these feelings do you currently have right now?
And how many people you think are feeling that way as well?
A lot of people.
What do you think it is?
From our base.
Well, from our base, 90% are furious.
I don't think it's 90%.
I think, honestly, I think it's 20 to 30%.
Okay.
And I'll tell you why, and I could kind of walk it through why I think it's 20 to 30%.
So which people here, like, where do you put Trump right now in the way he's handling Epstein?
How is Trump handling Epstein right now?
I put him in the acceptance and reason category in power.
I actually don't.
Trump in this?
Yeah.
Where does Trump in this right on the way he's handling the Epstein?
Would you go fear?
I would put fear.
He's scared.
I think, Tom, where would you put him?
It's funny you said that.
I said, I was about to say fear or I jump up to pride.
Pride, demanding, and scorn.
That's where I'm at.
By the way, both of you are wrong.
Both parties.
Like, trust me, I'm angry.
I'm not in a right state to decipher what's going on because I'm coming from an angry place.
You know, like, you know, Tico, where he's at, and what we're talking about before.
How come we're not doing something?
How are we feeling?
Where are we at?
We're in what?
We're in guilt, you know, anger.
Kind of a little pride.
Yeah, I'm right.
When it comes to him, I'm barely like, dude.
That's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But guess what?
Yeah.
Dude, you know, maybe we have to feeling and accept the fact that he's growing up.
Yeah.
And we have to go there.
So for me, when I'm sitting here watching this, this is what I think about.
You've been with me in different environments, right?
Okay.
Where do we go to where people stop us non-stop and we can't leave?
UFC.
Okay, so UFC.
If we go to UFC fight, guess what it is?
We can't even walk without being stopped, right?
Okay.
Give me the other sport.
Like, what's baseball?
Yankees, we go there.
Yankees, for sure.
Give me where we go.
Nobody stops us.
Synagogue.
Where do we go that no one stops us?
Tom, where do we go that nobody stops us?
We were at F1.
We went to F1.
Five people stopped us.
Okay.
So.
I was going to say New York, but New York was surprisingly like people knew.
No, no, Hampton's coming.
No, Hampton's was.
But the point is, if we go in different markets, if I'm in LA, I'm stopped by people that don't like what we talk about.
Don't have a conversation.
That's right.
And, you know, he witnessed this one time when we're leaving one of the presidential debates and we're at a Yoshino.
Oh, yeah, that was great.
So what's the moral of the story?
If we hang out at UFC fights all day, we think we're so popular.
We're not.
If we only go to Formula One races, we think we have a very small podcast.
Damn, we're doing a shitty job.
We're not.
If we go to a place where they hate us and what we stand for, like let's say you and I go and walk in the streets of, I don't know, Chaz.
Or if we go in the most Berkeley, oh my God, you know what I'm talking about.
That's not true.
That's not the case.
But if you go to a place in Florida, oh my God, we love you guys.
That's also not the case.
So if you spend most of your time of social media on X, I hate to say it to you, you're brainwashed.
I'm just being straight up.
If most of the time people are on X, you are absolutely brainwashed.
If you're on Fox News, you're brainwashed.
If you're only on CNN, you're brainwashed.
If you're only on, you know, certain podcasts, you're brainwashed.
If you only read the journal, you're brainwashed.
If you only, you have to be able to kind of take that emotion that you're having and like, whoa, like, because 90% you're X, right?
So who's on X?
Who has, X is not all of America.
No.
X is 20% of America.
That makes it seem like it's 100% of America.
It's not.
There are a lot of people that don't care about this topic.
I do.
I got four kids.
I care about it.
And I also care about the fact that if you tell me you're going to do something, do it.
I'm that guy.
So I'm literal.
I'm going to hold you to it.
Go through and tell me what you're going to, even if it's bad news, drop it.
I want to process it.
But things are directed.
So the biggest challenge as we're going through this, if you spend a lot of time on X, you naturally will start hating Israel more and more and more.
Naturally, you're going to.
Naturally.
If you're on X, you're naturally going to have a certain level of animosity and skepticism towards everything being tied to Israel and Mossad.
Naturally.
Naturally.
If you're in Fox News and all you do is work around Fox News all day, you're naturally going to be pro-Israel because you're there and you hear what they're talking about, right?
If you go to a Christian church that has got an Israel flag on the side, you're naturally, you understand?
You're like, why did they have the Israel flag next to the American flag?
Remember that one time, you know, I talked about it.
You're naturally going to have that.
And you have to be able to control that, you know, oh my God.
You have to, whoa, whoa, whoa, relax.
Pump the brakes.
Well, you know, you're defending them.
No, I actually don't trust Mossad, but I trust the fact that Israel's motive is Israel first.
So do I believe Israel would find a way to get politicians in America to make policies that favors Israel?
100%.
But do I think Ukraine would do that?
100%.
Do I think Russia would?
Yes.
Do I think Muslims would come and infiltrate our country to be able to produce their own laws?
Absolutely.
Do I think America will go to other countries to impose capitalism on them?
100%.
Do I believe if I go to a certain university, they're going to tell me that they're the greatest university in the world?
100%.
Tico's at a campus right now.
The only person that he's spoken to at the campus that supports Trump is one person.
Really?
Out of all, he's had so many debates already.
There's only one kid that likes Trump.
Everybody else can't stand Trump at the campus he's at.
I like it.
I prepped him for it.
He's getting into debates.
This is good.
So the hardest thing to do here and the best place to be, if you can be in the acceptance, reason, love.
Acceptance, reason, love.
So hard to be in that.
But if you look at the God view of what it is on the left, look at what it is on the left side.
Look at anger, vengeful, antagonistic, hate, aggression.
Look at fear, punitive, frightening, fear, anxiety, withdrawal.
You kind of have to kind of size yourself up to see where you're at.
And it's so hard to get at the first level, which is courage, permitting, feasible, permitting, affirmation, empowerment.
I see some of the guys on X, they're posting something.
You know, I saw a video of Nick Fuentes.
And Nick Fuentes made a video and he said, you know, I've been called out.
I can't say the N-word anymore because Patrick B. David, yes, Patrick B. David, at Turning Point USA, got up and he said, the reason why he's not willing to have me on is because I say the N-word too much.
And you know what, folks?
I think it's come time that I have to make certain sacrifices.
So moving forward, I won't be using the N-word.
I think in some kind of a way he says he's right.
I don't know when he said it.
The guys just showed it to me yesterday.
Brandon did, and I reacted to it.
But you know what?
I like the way he communicates.
I think he's a phenomenal communicator.
If he dropped some of this stuff, he would have more of an opening to present his argument and say what he stands for.
Make sense?
But to me, the more and more we go in this next direction, if you spend most of your time on X, I guarantee for every day You spend more time on X, you hate Israel more.
Every day you spend more time on X, you think everything's Mossad's fault.
Every day you spend more time on, you're going to go to this.
It's just the reality of it.
And you have to find a way to be there and not allow to 100% influence everything you believe in.
That is the hardest thing to do.
It is the hardest thing to do.
And still know that, yes, AIPAC does what it does.
Mossad does what it does.
CIA does what it does.
You know, by the way, you know what's one of my biggest concerns in America right now?
Do you know Iran caught 700 Mossad agents in Iran?
Was that 700 or 455?
Can you type up?
It was earlier this year, a few months ago.
Iran caught Mossad agents.
It's the number 455.
How many people did they just catch?
How many Mossad agents did they catch in?
Can you ask the same question on Chad G.B.T., if you could, Rob?
Watch this, Vinny.
So this prompted something that I'm very concerned about, but you have to kind of see where there's a challenge here.
And guys, I really want to transition out of the story to other stories because we got different things to go to.
So let's give this thing a couple more minutes and move on.
Look at this.
June of 2025, they arrested 700 people over a 12-day span, accused of passing intelligence to Israel.
So these are either Mossad operatives, CIA, because you know there are CIA officers, they're CIA agents, and then there's CIA helpers, operatives, right?
Do you know Mossad's got a couple thousand agents and operatives in Iran?
Do you know how many we have?
Not a lot.
Why do we not have a lot of people in Iran, CIA?
Actually, simplify why we don't have it.
It's harder for CIA to get in there than it is for Mossad.
Why is that there?
Simplify it.
Why is that?
Well, let's make some assumptions.
What percentage of the Mossad agents do you think are Jewish versus want to see bring down the regime?
Yeah, no, I get what you're saying.
What percentage?
What do you mean Mossad agents?
40 is Iranians that want to see Iran fall.
Okay, so they're recruiting Iranians, converting him to help him create assets to drop information to them, right?
Oh, wow.
Did you just catch that fly?
Are you Mossad?
No.
What just happened there?
Holy shit.
And you put the fly right here?
I just killed him.
What do you want me to put him?
He's still alive, BBD.
Okay, but give me a trash.
Tamo, that will, first of all, some trash?
That was.
Vinny, give me your opinion for a second.
Yeah, by the way, just to clarify, there's Mossad agents and then there's Mossad assets.
An agent works for them.
An asset is somebody that they're going to think about the question I'm about to ask you.
You ready?
Actually, simplify, Tom.
You should be able to get this answer fairly quickly.
And I know you're under the weather a little bit, but watch this year.
Why is it that Mossad is capable of having more intelligence in Iran than American CIA?
I think they live right there and socioethnically.
Proximity.
No, go ahead.
They live right there.
They're in proximity.
They look like that.
They look like that.
And we don't.
Yeah.
Right.
So when I was recruited many years ago to go be Delta and to go through things because I spoke five languages.
I have features middle.
There's a lot of things you can do with that, right?
You, we can use you in many different ways, right?
So that Billy Joe from Alabama is going to have a tough time in Tehran.
We don't have a lot of CIA assets in Iran.
So if you don't have it, you're America.
You're the president, Vinny.
What do you do?
If I don't have.
Iran is one of the top five countries that hates us the most.
Some people may say they're number one.
Yeah.
Okay.
Don't you want intel in there?
I do.
You outsource.
Wait, how do you have it?
If we don't have it, you have to recruit other people.
So then what relationships do you need?
Maybe you have an ally on an ally to give you that intel.
This is so complicated.
This is so complicated for us to be sitting here thinking about all this other stuff where you send 500 white guys.
Let's send 500 black guys CIAs to Iran.
Here's our latest CIA agents.
What's your name?
Tiron.
Tiron.
Tiron Chief.
Es me man Tirone.
Es me Shon Tiron.
Tiron.
Esm Pedara Chia.
That's the worst thing.
Tiron Johnson.
I've got Tirona Johnson.
Tiron Johnson.
Why are you talking about it?
Tyrone Johnson.
Battle that Magic Johnson.
He's already dead.
He's been dead for 20 minutes.
Send 500 black CI agents to him.
Go ahead.
Let's do it.
Where are you from?
I'm from Bandar.
I'm from, you know, I'm from Esfahon.
Oh, you're from Esfahon?
What part?
Exactly.
Straight out of Constantine, Comp 10 down the street from, you know.
Yeah, what part?
121st.
That's the point.
So there is a part of this, Vinny, that it is so above our pay grade.
You kind of, who are you going to say?
I'm going to get intel from Saudi.
Am I going to get intel from Iraq?
Who am I going to trust to send it?
It's not as simple as let me get on X and put a tweet that gets viral and let me go.
Shit is pretty dirty and nasty.
And it's super complicated.
So, okay, so now you don't trust Mossad.
Who do you send to Iran to get intel for you?
Go ahead.
Who's your second person?
You go to MI6, more white people?
Yeah.
But who do you send?
Actually, go think about it.
Process it.
You send Spaniards from Spain?
They better be a fan of the Spanish.
You have a friend.
Bourgeoisie.
You know, vou levous.
Who are you going to send?
Italians?
Yeah.
Who are you going to send?
Who are you going to send?
Actually, process that.
Who are we going?
We're going to send people from Japan.
Let's send Japan.
Hey, you're going to send Chinese.
Who are you going to send?
Australian?
New Zealand?
Africans?
Let's send people from Lagos.
They'll definitely be low-key.
Let's send people from South Africa with their accent.
Brazil.
Who the hell are we going to send to get Intel?
That's the part where it's like, okay, guess who has a monopoly on it?
Israel.
They're down the street.
They can't stand Iran.
They have access to it.
You can't trust them 100%, but at least they're going to give you intel that you can't get anywhere else, anyways.
So it's a catch-22 situation in that.
So you can't trust them, but you need them.
Oh, man.
That's such a difficult.
That's such a difficult thing.
This is why this shit is not everybody's job.
This is not for everybody.
Us outsiders, we can sit here and sell all the stuff that we want to say and then go on the inside.
And you're like, oh, my God, like that intel actually from Iran that we got from Assad was very helpful.
Yep.
Okay.
But I don't trust them.
So you know how John Kirakos is like, how do you feel?
I don't trust him at all.
I believe him.
Of course I do.
But guess what?
Go find alternative intel.
Go ahead.
So now you send Greeks.
You can tell a Greek apart from an Iranian.
Of course, 100%.
Who else looks like them?
You're going to send me?
I'm going to go next week, guys.
I think it'd be good.
PPD podcast has been on, break.
So we find somebody to replace me.
We put a wig on Rob and Rob becomes me.
Look at that face right there.
For sure.
I mean, Rob's got it's going to be a bit more.
Oh, he's so you.
Hello.
Remember, and pants.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways.
Can I just respond to one thing?
By the way, aside from the Iran Mossad thing, I think everything you said, especially about X, is completely accurate.
So X, let's talk about X for a second.
Do you remember a week ago they put in the input, hey, what's going on here?
And then the output on X Gronk was how Hitler F the Jews.
This one's going to be like, whoa!
Do you know how that happened?
Take a guess how that happened.
They didn't just, Gronk didn't mess up because whatever your input is, is what you're going to get out.
So what they did is they took everything that lived on X, all the information that lived on X, and put it into Gronk.
Gronk.
And this is Gronk.
My bad.
Gronk has a lot more.
I'm trying to make political points here now.
You don't even know the name of the fucking bonus.
Gronk is a tight end.
Yes.
Pay that damn man his money.
So the point is this.
They took what the X was saying, put it into Grok, and this is what it came out with.
Tom, what's the famous phrase?
Whatever your input is, is what the output will be.
Yeah, garbage in, garbage out.
Garbage.
So bingo.
Garbage in, garbage out.
Turned out what's going on on X is a lot of freaking garbage.
A lot of anti-Semitism, a lot of racism, a lot of horrible stuff.
You can make the argument, well, Elon Musk saved free speech.
Cool.
I agree with that.
Free speech sometimes gets real ugly.
And what we all realize from Grok is there's a lot of people on Twitter, you hang out a lot, that are saying some not-so-nice things and some not-so-true things.
So it turned out, so it turned out that Grok, because of the input, turned out to be anti-Semitic, racist, misogynistic, all that fun stuff.
And some of that I'm here for.
And some of it I totally recognize.
It's a massive problem.
Every morning, I'm on X. I'm on Fox.
Every morning.
Listen to me.
Every morning I wake up.
I'm on X, probably the majority of the time.
I have the Fox app.
I have the CNN app.
I have the AP app.
Hold on.
I look at all of that.
What percentage of your mixed media diet do you think your number one is?
My number one is X.
Okay.
So that explains a lot, by the way.
No, no.
But by the way, me too.
Yeah.
Just so you know, like my number one is also X.
Yeah, but respectfully, the way your brain thinks this thing is.
No, no, but we want it a little bit different.
We want to move.
I don't know if we want to move on, but here's my question, though.
If there was no X, if there was no X, would you even know about Mossad being Epstein tied to Mossad?
Because on YouTube and all these other places, they will bang.
Banger.
That information was out there.
No, no, but I'm saying nobody would be talking about.
But what I'm saying is, if you talked about this or talked about COVID or talked about anything.
It's been around for a while, bro.
Movies from the 80s, 90s.
I never knew about it.
I never knew about it.
Are you better for it or not?
I don't want to know the truth.
I am all thinking X is a net positive for sure.
No, I'm saying Vinny's digesting on X. All I'm saying to you is, if you're around it, it's going to rub off on you so much that it can lower your calibration to anger, fear, all of that stuff.
And you want to be able to go in, get all the shit, and take a big shower and go up to reason and say, all right, man, here's where I'm going to argue guys.
I'm out of here.
I can't.
I'm going to go upstairs and blow and go.
Let's not beat around the bush here.
Earlier, you said one thing.
I want to know if you stand by this.
Do you think Vinny, even if it's 1%, has been brainwashed by what he's consumed on X?
Yes.
Oh.
How do you feel about that, Vinny?
That you might have been brainwashed.
By the way, we have a different understanding of the word brainwashed.
Explain what brainwash means.
When I was in the Army and I watched Saving Private Ryan, and they told me this movie is dedicated to the unit you're a part of, I was brainwashed to be a proud American and a proud hunter for airborne soldiers.
So there can be good brainwash and bad.
Brainwashing is not a bad thing.
We brainwash our kids all the damn time.
So there is good brainwash, there's bad brainwash.
You should wash my brain if it's so so.
Is what he's consuming good bread.
I'm worried about doing good brainwash or bad brainwash?
Huh?
I consume both.
That's what he's doing, good brainwash or bad brainwash?
Eventually, like Tom, when I watch Tom and he talks to his daughters, he talks about this one pastor that taught him something many years ago.
I don't know what pastor it is.
You told me his name one time.
He uses the word resist.
He teaches Bailey and Brooke about learning how to resist.
Resist.
What is Bailey going to do?
What is Brooke going to do?
They're attracted to them.
They have to learn how to resist from bad decisions, bad influence.
You have to learn as a grown man how to resist bad ideas and to jump to conclusions.
It's not an easy thing to do.
But anyways, let's continue.
We're going to go to the next one.
Now that we know that Vinny's been brainwashed, let's move on to the next topic.
I'm going to go to the next topic, which is.
You had to do that at the end, didn't you?
I'm going to go to the next topic here, which is Adam's top topic, talking about Obama saying every man needs a gay friend.
So Obama goes on his wife's podcast.
Okay.
And they're sitting there having this conversation.
And it opens.
They covered a lot of different things.
Right off the bat, they talked about the divorce.
Hey, aren't we supposed to be getting a divorce and all this stuff?
Just tell me if this seems like they woke up together in the same bed this morning, the last week, the last month, the last 90 days, or if they live in two different places.
Just watch this real quick.
Go ahead, Rob.
Wait, you guys like each other?
Oh, yeah, really?
That rumor.
Yeah, slap that hand.
It's my husband, y'all.
She's going to be back.
Now, don't start.
I can't.
It was touch and go.
It's so nice to have you both in the same room.
I know.
When we aren't, folks think we're divorced.
These are the kinds of things that I just miss.
Right?
So I don't even know this stuff's going on.
Oh, yeah.
And then somebody will mention it to me and I'm all like, what are you talking about?
Yeah.
There hasn't been one moment in our marriage where there was a lot of money.
No, hang on, hang on, hang on.
There hasn't been one moment in our marriage when I thought about quitting.
Bull.
Every man and woman who has ever been married, you think about quitting.
There's a moment you think things will happen.
Yeah, that's such BS.
We all have that.
She even said it.
She said she hates human.
She said she hated him for 10 years.
Hon. Are you admitting on camera that you thought about quitting?
Rob, can you rewind, Rob?
Look at how his mother's shut off.
Go back to you, Adam.
Brock's legs crossed.
Do humans in relationships have big fights and you say for a split second, is this all worth it?
But then you go to your foundation and you say, yes, it is worth it.
And I'm going to stick through this.
Shut up.
He's talking.
Adam, just out of curiosity.
I want to hear Tom speak.
That's the first time.
I'm going to separate it from you.
So let's look at it.
Barack Obama sitting like that.
Where is his junk?
It has to be mushed.
That's what you're saying.
That's what you interrupted Tom for?
He's talking about his marriage?
Tom was saying something about the challenge of marriage.
But listen, you know who else is like that?
Kevin Newsome.
Oh, hard.
They sit like that.
That takes her heart.
That hurts.
Yeah.
But anyways, going back to grown-ups here.
What were some of the things that were done?
What did they say?
What are some of the things?
Not that one.
If you go to the Sean Ryan picture, the Sean Ryan Newsome picture.
It's so condemned.
That's the one you want to look at.
But let me go to this here.
Let me go to this here.
Let me go to this year.
So they had this conversation.
I'll send it to you in a minute.
Don't worry about it.
We'll be right back.
It's a killer crossover right there.
I get that.
Yeah.
So goes on.
And if you look at the podcast from the beginning, Tim Hardaway right there.
Where are they?
They're in there, Vinny.
So he goes on the podcast.
They openly talk about the divorce.
Okay, that people think we're getting a divorce and they're joking about it.
And Obama said a few things.
One of the things he talked about was about young men and daughters.
And I don't, Rob, I don't know if this is the one or not.
I have it.
You know which one I'm talking about?
Where they talk about progressives, Democrats, and young men?
Yeah, he was talking about it, it was actually very, it was going in the right direction of a point.
And then he talks about every man needs a gay friend.
I'm like, oh, you were, you were making a very good point.
And then you say, you know, this is the one where he says, for those of you that don't have sons, for those of you that don't have sons, Rob, is this the one?
I just sent you the clip on Instagram.
He talks about for those of you that don't have sons, that only have daughters, which he's talking about himself, you know, we need men.
He's making the point of parents who have only girls, they need boys to become boys because our daughters, you know, they want to have a relationship.
I think that's one right to play that clip, Rob, if you could go for it.
Those of you who do not have sons, so Emma, we are rooting for you because those of us with daughters, we've got to have good guys out there, not necessarily to get married,
but to make sure that what we're learning, I think, is that when we don't think about boys and just assume they're going to be okay because they've been running the world and they've got all the advantages relative to the girls, all of which has historically been true in all kinds of ways.
But precisely because of that, if you're not thinking about what's happening to boys and how are they being raised, then that can actually hurt women.
And I would argue that the broad political trends we've seen, not just in this country, but around the world, have to do with this sense of, you know, boys, men not feeling as if they are seen, feeling as if they count.
And that then makes them more interested in appeals by folks who say, you know what, the reason you don't feel respected is because women have been doing this, or this group has been doing this, or that group's been doing this.
I'm on LGBTQ now, right?
And that is not a healthy place to be.
For those of you who do not have sons, okay.
So, Vinny, did you watch any of the clips between the two?
I just watched the one and I sent it to Rob.
Pat, I'm being, I don't know what, I just watched like three or four clips.
The one that I sent Rob was the one where he says every guy did I sent to Rob needs an LGBTQ friend.
I think I put it in the actual group.
Did I put in the group chat?
Oh, yeah, no, Rob, I did.
I slacked it to you.
It's on by define L's.
Yeah, he just says, men need a gay friend to show empathy and kindness.
By the way, you need that person in your friend group.
Like, so if you have a boy who is gay or non-binary, you have that clip or no one?
I do.
Yeah.
This is it.
Bring a gay friend.
I had a gay professor in college at a time when openly gay folks still weren't out who became one of my favorite professors.
You need that to show empathy and kindness.
And by the way, you need that person in your friend group so that if you then have a boy who is who's who's who's gay or non-binary or what have you, they have somebody that they can go, okay, I'm not alone in this.
Yeah.
Right?
So Listen, just off the podcast alone, I'm not an expert, but just going off of body language and seeing them together and then making the jokes about it with her brother, who I believe is in the LGBTQ community.
Yeah, we go out on a limit.
What's it called?
He's an ally.
He's an ally.
I think that's fair to say.
Yeah, he's an ally.
I just, and again, I just don't, I'm not buying it.
That looked like a group that hasn't been around each other for a while.
I respect, you know, the stuff with the boys and we need to have them getting out there more.
But mind you, when he's talking about having that gay friend and the gay professor and all that stuff, let's not forget what Barack was writing letters in college to his love, his friend, Tom, and where he's saying he was fantasizing about sleeping with men on a daily basis.
So this is the same guy.
And by the way, to each his own, he does whatever, but I'm just not.
Do you think that when's the last time you think that they were in the same room together off of that vibe, that video?
Let me tell you, the energy I got, I've been around couples a lot when I'm sitting down with the insurance company PHP and I sit down with them and I get a feeling how they sit next to each other, both legs being crossed the other way.
And, you know, those who are extremely comfortable with each other, those who are spending, you can feel the energy 100%.
That was an energy of they're not living together.
That was an energy of we have a grown relationship.
We've separated.
I live in a different place.
You live in a different place.
We have two different lives.
That's the energy I got there.
Okay.
And a part of me who is a big pro-family guy, I love seeing it.
I think it's good.
You know, I don't agree with a lot of stuff with Obama.
And he was a big contributor to dividing the country in many different ways.
But I think he's a guy that's probably in his circles, probably a good guy in his circle.
Like, think about if he's in his own community.
And he's probably gone through a lot of shit as well, you know, of being where he's at.
It's not easy being a president.
I never liked the Michelle Obama victimhood language type of stuff.
I even gave feedback saying, go back to the videos you used to dance and be happy.
Like, go back to it.
You can do that.
We don't have to agree politically.
I still want to find a way for us to be able to hear each other out and disagree on policies.
And I want to see them be together.
I don't root for them to not make it.
You want to see them make it.
However, body language, these guys haven't been living together for a long time.
I mean, you know, when he's going and having breakfast with his girls and the wife is not there and she's going, he's going to funerals and traditional presidential, you know, things that you have to be part of and she's not there at Jimmy Carter's funeral.
Maybe not Trump's, I get it, but Carter's, a little weird.
And if they do get a divorce, great, announce it.
Move on.
2025 is very different than 1984 to 44.
Do you remember just really quick?
When's the last time we even saw them together?
When's before this?
Anybody even like a birthday photo?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
And then before that, who knows?
That was a rough birthday picture.
They've been behind the scenes and they're rolling him out right now because New Jersey was really close in the election 24.
We just had presidential election.
It really closed in on conservatives, not just Trump and the Trump wave.
He led it, but there's conservatism that was rising in New Jersey after all those years of blue state rule and taxes.
And they've rolled out him now trying to help candidates in New Jersey.
And he was at a massive fundraiser trying to help them get momentum because now and a year from now, they need to generate a big war chest momentum to go into midterms.
And New Jersey supposedly is weak in a couple of congressional seats.
So they rolled him out in New Jersey.
I haven't seen him in forever.
Is that the message of him giving to Democrats who are toughen up rob?
Yes, sir.
Can you play that and then go to Whoopi Goldberg and then I'm going to go to Adam.
Go ahead and play that.
When is the last time you heard this guy?
for it.
He said, I think it's going to require a little bit less navel gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions.
It's going to require Democrats to just toughen up.
Later, he says he's been surprised by progressive liberals who stood for all kinds of stuff who seem to be kind of cowed and intimidated and shrinking away.
And then he called out university presidents where he said, I've said if your core mission, if your core value is to teach, you may teach without compromising values of academic independence.
You may lose some grant money temporarily.
That's why you have big endowments.
I would say with the DNC, you know, if he asked people to give money to the DNC, I would say that donors are holding back from giving money to the DNC until the DNC shows them that they know how to spend that money wisely and messaging properly in order to win elections.
And they're not seeing that right now.
So, you know, I would love to know who President Obama is talking to here.
If he was talking to the people in that room, he's absolutely right.
That was Ken Martin.
That was Phil Murphy.
He's absolutely right.
Those people need to stand up and be a little bit more tough.
If he's talking to the rest of us, we're waiting anxiously for them to do that.
Well, but here's what he says to you.
Stop looking for the quick fix.
Stop looking for the Messiah.
You have great candidates running racist right now.
He's talked specifically about gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia.
People who are pragmatic, common sense, have a desire to help each other.
And then there's Mark Cuban jumps on the bandwagon.
And Mark Cuban says a bunch of stuff about Democrats and Trump.
So I don't know if you saw that one or not.
If you want to play that, so here's Mark.
I'm sorry, that was Mark Cuban's cousin or something.
Mark Wuban.
I only have Cuban Mark, but suddenly Obama shows up and was kind of giving a lecture a little bit.
Yeah, do you have the Mark Cuban clip?
I don't.
I have Whoopee Goldberg.
I have Charlemagne, both of them, but I don't have the Mark Cuban.
Go to Charlemagne, then go to Whoopi.
Here's Charlemagne.
It's mind-boggling to me when I hear people like President Obama say things that regular everyday people have been saying for years.
We've been saying Democrats were cowards for a decade.
We've been saying Democrats need to toughen up.
And that cowardice is, you know, why we're in the position that we're in now.
And I can give countless examples of Democrats needing to show a spine.
Like, for example, they should have told Biden that he was going to be a one-term president.
It wasn't up to him.
So it's just wild to hear President Obama say that now as if Democrats haven't been cowards.
So now it's Whoopi.
Whoopi sees this stuff, gets upset at what Obama said, and here's what Whoopee had to say.
Beautiful here.
But go ahead.
Play this clip by Whoopi.
Go ahead.
Okay.
So let me remind everybody who was out in the front lines marching when we had the giant marches that went on.
It was the people.
The people went out.
They were not navel gazing.
It was older people who were saying, why are you touching my social security?
It was not people whining.
It was about people saying, why are you taking these rights from my child when my child was born here?
This has not been about Democrats laying back.
This has been about y'all.
This has been about the audience doesn't know what to do.
They're like, their messaging is always the same.
Democrats have been angry at what this man tried to do the last time.
They've been angry this time.
So I, with much due respect to you both, I believe you are pointing the finger at the wrong person when you say Democrats.
Are you delineating between voters and elected officials?
Yes, I am.
You're saying, because I agree, voters are very impassioned.
Voters, and when you say Democrats, he's talking to us saying our messaging is bad.
Do you know what she sounds like?
She sounds like the way MAGA feels with Trump when he talks about Epstein.
How upset they are at Obama, at Trump about Epstein.
The Democrats are upset at Obama because they're saying you're doing this.
They're putting the responsibility on him, right?
On the messaging here.
Adam, your thoughts on this when you see what Whoopi, Obama, all these guys here are saying about the Democrats.
Okay, so let's start with the fact that we started with the conversation that they had just seen each other for the first time and whatever.
Yep.
So Barack Obama is gay.
That's the narrative.
Michelle Obama's a man.
They're getting divorced.
She never even had the kid.
Show me one pregnancy picture.
All this speculation out there, right?
It's fun to go down this rabbit hole, as we just learned in the previous segment.
Or maybe he's just a straight guy and she's a woman and they got together and they had a family and they had kids.
That's probably the truth, but it's a lot more fun to call her a man.
It's a lot more fun to call her Big Mick.
It's a lot more fun to speculate, Mike.
My bad.
You know, I got to get on the same wavelength as you guys as a rabbit hole crew.
You can look it up, Gronk.
Okay.
I know Rob Gronkowski.
You know, maybe she's a trans man and he's a gay guy and it's all an act and they all got put together and they did this.
Or maybe the reality is they're just a married couple going through some normal stuff.
I don't know.
I think the truth is boring and I think the rabbit hole is a lot more fun.
I'm just more on the side of truth.
I could be wrong.
She could be a chicks with dick crew.
I don't know, but I'm just speculating.
I'm just asking questions, guys.
You are.
I'm just asking questions.
But I mean, but if you're listening to Larry Sinclair, Adam, and Obama's letters to his girlfriend saying he fantasized about, I don't, you're a heterosexual male.
I know that you know.
Adam, have you ever written letters to your girlfriend in college saying, I think about sleeping with men every day?
Then you have Larry Sinclair who went in front of Congress and said, and affidavit and took a lie detector test and said, when Obama was in, like growing up in the politic world, I would do drugs with him and come sleep with him in the hotel.
I don't believe the big mic stuff, but that stuff is gone.
But that's actually a perfect example.
So on one hand, you have married family, two kids, been around the public media, been presidency, White House, evidence, of that they're just a normal married couple.
And then you have some weird crackhead dude who's like, ah, I heard he liked some dick.
And then it's like, all right, well, obviously that guy's correct.
So this is nowhere.
So this guy came out of nowhere.
I'm just saying it's a lot more fun to go on the Larry Sinclair rabbit hole.
It's a lot less fun to look at.
What about the letters he wrote to his wife?
No, I get it.
What about the letters he wrote?
Vinny, we get it.
You've gone down.
Adam, have you ever?
Adam, is there?
No, you just believe everything.
Like everybody, you believe the narrative.
You should make a shirt that says, I believe the narrative.
That's who you are.
You should make a shirt.
That's who you are.
That says, I'm a angry patriot.
I'm a C there.
No, no, no.
I'm an angry patriot.
I'm an angry patriot.
We just learned in the previous segment when you're angry.
Why not do things?
Whoopi Goldberg is a youngster.
Forget about Whippy Goldberg.
I think she's irrelevant.
I'll tell you what I do think, though.
When Barack Obama called out the Democratic Party for being soft and basically being gay as hell, I think he's absolutely right.
What I'll tell you is this.
He mentioned the fact that he had two daughters and that he's hoping and praying when he speaks with friends and family that they find good men.
Because Barack Obama knows that the type of men that his daughter are associating with are weak, are feminine, are not masculine.
And because those types of attributes are with one party and one party only, the MAGA conservative base.
Those are real men.
Show me men in the Democratic Party.
I'll show you a guy who's masquerading as a trans activist.
You mean Tim Walz isn't a tough guy?
Tampon Tim is probably not the toughest guy.
So what he's basically saying is, man, I'm a Democrat, but I would love my daughters to be with an actual strong conservative man with values and principles.
He's not going to come out and say that, but that's what he means.
So the next question is, what's worse for society?
Strong men and weaker women or strong women and weaker men?
What's worse?
The weaker men, obviously.
100%.
Thousand percent.
We have millennia of men being strong, the dominant patriarchy, and women being the nurturing matriarchy, having kids, and being sort of subservient to men.
That's built society.
Now they flipped it.
Women are the strong ones, down with the patriarchy.
Who runs the world?
Girls.
The future is feminine.
And now there's a lot of confused men out there putting on dresses.
And Obama's looking at it and being like, I kind of caused this by lighting the White House LGBT colors.
I kind of caused this by doing gay marriage.
I kind of caused this by saying, hey, let's stop at the gay marriage thing.
No, let's continue into trans world and trans psychopathy.
So I think there's a part of Obama that's looking at everything and basically going, some of this is on me.
So, but I know that you want Trump to go to jail.
You know, I hear all that, Adam.
Adam, I hear all that.
And, you know, some of that I agree with.
What happened is Obama went out and kind of lectured everybody after being quiet and off to the side.
And I don't agree with Whoopi Goldberg's positions, but I think there is a certain purity and truth in her response.
She is offended and she is saying to the ruling class, the voters were out there protesting.
We were out there marching and we're a little offended that you're lecturing us.
And you know what?
I don't want to be lectured and I don't want you to push back on me.
I don't agree with her and her positions, but I think that's her response.
And what Pat commented was, isn't that what a lot of MAGA people are saying is saying, hang on.
You know what?
You're our guy, Trump.
Whoopee, you're our guy, Obama.
Don't lecture me, Obama, on this.
We were out there.
And now the MAGA is out there saying, don't lecture me on this.
I'm upset and offended.
I just said this is probably the weirdest podcast we've done.
Vinny has basically been calling for Trump to go to jail.
He says, Dan Bonjin, hold on.
You're putting one of those people.
Dan Bongino, Cash Bond.
I don't say that.
Pam Bondi, all lies.
Notice how he's twisting that I'm saying Trump should go to jail.
We can run to take that.
If he was doing anything illegal, everybody.
Tom is defending Whoopee Goldberg.
I'm not defending.
I am not defending Whoopee.
I said I understand her responsibility.
Patrick is defending the Mossad.
Here I am defending our allies, Donald Trump and calling a gayest.
And Adam, please notice.
No one's defending you.
No, no.
What I'm saying.
Here's the difference.
I don't give a shit.
Did you guys miss the entire segment in the podcast where I'm catching all these mosquito drones that Masada send out with?
We call them.
You guys listening?
Listen.
Hey, look at me.
I'm talking to you.
Hey, PBD.
Stop it.
No, it's stop it.
He's like karate.
PBD, look at me.
It's like karate.
PBD, look at me for a second.
I brought them.
I brought the flying mosquitoes.
We know.
Check the mosquitoes.
They're mosquitoes.
Check the bugs on the middle.
Let's go to the next story.
Oh, my God.
Okay, we have like a diagnosis.
I want to go through that.
There's a lot of things today.
Tom, what business story do you have that we can get into?
I want to go purely into a business story right now.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Okay, Chinese buyers grabbing up American homes.
I'm going to go into that one, Tom, and I'm coming to you and Vinny.
Okay.
Vinny, you put that.
That's one of the stories you have an opinion on.
So Chinese buyers grabbing up American homes.
Investors significantly increased their home purchase with National Association of Realtors, NAR, reporting an 83% surge from $7.5 billion to $13.7 billion between April 2024 and March of 2025, buying 11,700 homes at an average price of $1.168 million.
Damn.
Kashif and Saudi, co-founder of Jawai IQI, a realtor technology group, told Bloomberg that Chinese buyers were more likely to pay in all cash than any other group buyers, with 36% of purchase in California, 9% in New York.
The NIR reported highlighted significant nationals as the largest group of foreign buyers, followed by 10,900 properties purchased by Canadians, 6,200 Mexicans, 4,700 Indians.
While I'm sorry, he noted that the wealthy Chinese investors view the housing market a safe haven amid a Chinese property sector downturn with new home prices falling 4.7%.
Rob, is this the clip with him talking about it?
Yes, sir.
Go for it.
The National Association of Realtors says Chinese buyers spent just about $14 billion on the prices and real estate from April of last year.
Tom, your thoughts on this story.
Well, on one hand, it's just the rest of the world finds U.S. real estate to be a good investment, and they're going to be renting it back to the rest of us.
So you look at it that way.
On the other hand, along with China buying up all this farmland and the Trump administration doing the right thing and trying to put it in the position for them to unbuy it and unwind those transactions, you know, I'm a little unnerved to have China buying properties.
I want to know where the properties are because let's face it, they want a spy network in the United States and they want to cause havoc in the United States.
And that's what they were doing with the farmland.
We went into that on the various levels that could do it.
And now if it's Chinese investors and all they're doing is buying property like the rest of the world, then it looks okay on one hand, but I don't trust that.
I think there's motives that are underneath it, especially when they buy stuff that are near intelligence or military facilities because they want to spy on us.
Oh, and Tom, and again, my biggest word, I think, for 2025 is accountability.
Okay.
China does whatever the hell they want and nobody can stop them.
Trump, thank God he's, you know, with the tariffs and he's kind of holding the foot to the fire.
I mean, the last time he was doing this trade war with China, Tom, what happened?
What leaked from a lab that we owned under Obama, weird, with Dr. Fajr?
COVID.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
And destroyed the world.
Okay.
They do backdoor deals, all this stuff with Joe and Hunter Biden, spy balloons.
They do whatever the hell they want.
And then the number was Pat, just so the audience knows, $14 billion.
Okay.
No mortgage, paid in full.
And then that's 82.6% spike from the year before.
Okay.
And like I said, with the terrorists, I'm all cool, but playing footsie with this country who's trying to replace us, I'm done with it.
I'm just, I'm curious, Tom, when are we going to start treating China like the enemy that it is?
I'm being genuine with you.
Besides this terrorist stuff, okay, we're hitting them where it hurts.
But, you know, they poison our kids with fentanyl, Tom.
They flood the markets with freaking garbage products.
They spy on us.
They're buying.
They try to sneak pathogens in to destroy entire crops.
Okay.
And that's true.
Treat them as an enemy combatant.
Yes.
And that is, and Tom.
So, and Pat, is it worth it?
Meaning, you know where I stand, this relationship has to come to a head.
Okay.
If a foreign nation dropped bombs on us, it's war.
But when they silently do it with influence, with cash, with COVID releasing, like you said, we stopped those two.
Believe it or not, I don't actually think this is any kind of foreign influence.
I don't.
And I would tell you, if the government is buying land here near our military bases, yes, that's very concerning.
If individual investors are buying up homes.
How can you trust Pat?
They're not.
By the way, that's what I said.
If it's investors, that's one thing.
But if it's the government and these homes are next door to military facilities, then they're trying to do that.
Well, these are people from China coming here to do it.
Let me tell you, it's a shit show in China right now.
So if you're somebody that's got money in China, one thing in China is, believe it or not, they don't invest into their stock market a lot.
They don't?
No, not at all.
They're not a stock market audience.
If you type in, Rob, average Chinese investors, why do average Chinese investors not invest into their stock market?
That's interesting.
They're not.
They're real estate.
They're all about real estate and they're cash people.
They have a very different philosophy when it comes down to money.
They're not.
Let me see if it's going to show it to you here.
There's going to be, I hope there's like data that comes up.
How long that is?
This guy's not any comedy show coming out soon.
Key reasons.
Lack of trust in the market.
So they don't.
They're one of the lowest percentage of nations that invest into their own stock market.
So lack of trust in the market, poor historical performance, speculative mindset, risk aversion, but they do believe in real estate in a big way.
Preference for real estate.
Chinese investors overwhelmingly favor property as a wealth-building tool due to rapid urbanization, historical high returns, strong belief in real estate as a safer, more tangible investment.
So they're not going that route.
I'm not surprised that they're taking their money and buying up stuff here.
Do I like them being able to do it?
No.
Do I want any U.S. Chinese government to buy up a bunch of land around our military base?
Zero.
What so ever?
Zero.
That's my concern.
But it is a pattern that people are looking into.
I'll give you something.
All right.
So you have something on this?
I think what's going on here is this.
Everything's better in America.
You don't hear stories about Americans going all over the world trying to buy all the different property and trying to invest in other things.
No, you hear stories about everyone trying to make their way in America.
And the best thing about America is almost the worst thing about America, and that's called freedom.
Anyone from anywhere can eventually get here and buy whatever they want.
Now, I'm not an advocate of Chinese officials buying farmland next to military bases, but if Chinese investors want to buy things, that's more power to you.
If Muslims want to come here and become citizens and move in here and want to implement Sharia law in Dearborn or in Minneapolis or in Houston, it's kind of their right to do it.
Not a fan of it, but welcome to America.
If Mexicans want to come here and wave the Mexican flag and say how much they hate America, and then we say, go back to Mexico, they go, no, I want to stay in America.
They have the freedom to do that.
You know, if Argentinians and Venezuelans and Dominicans and all my friends in Miami want to basically say, I can't put my money in countries I don't trust, so I'm going to buy all the property in Miami.
That's their freedom to do it.
Everyone wants to get to America.
Everyone wants to invest in America.
Everyone wants to put their money in the American stock market and real estate market.
That's the beauty of America.
And what we need to recognize is everyone from all around the world is taking advantage of America.
But when we ask them to go home to their place, they said, no, I don't want to go back there.
I want to stay here.
So at some point, this melting pot, people are going to have to recognize that they're going to have to get in line with American values or they're going to have to get the hell out.
Okay.
Got it.
All right.
So border crossing plummet to historic lows.
Trump's enforcement policy yield big results.
By the way, this was one of their top three commitments they made in Trump 47 promise, the top 20 promises they made about border crossing.
Go ahead and play this clip round.
So tonight, new border data for the month of June highlights the lowest month of encounters ever recorded.
Customs and Border Protection says it is the second month in a row of zero releases of illegal aliens into the U.S. compared to almost 28,000 releases in June of last year.
Okay, so that's progress, historic type of numbers that we're talking about, right, on immigration.
Then, at the same time, Rob, is this a different clip?
This is regarding the ICE assaults.
Go for it.
Oh, this is the one that's up 830%.
Yes, sir.
Go ahead and play this clip.
Against ICE.
Christy Noam said this.
Our brave ICE law enforcement are now facing an 830% increase in assaults against them.
This new data reflects the violence against our law enforcement in cities across the country in the last few weeks.
Politicians across the country, regardless of political stripe, must condemn this.
Gavin Newsom, we're looking at you, absolutely.
And that increase, the 830%, is just since Donald Trump has taken office in this second term.
So it was January 21st through July 14th.
And now, because she says, or other Republicans are saying, because of these Democratic politicians and the mainstream media spreading lies and fake stories, this hate and this violence continues to stir throughout different cities, especially in these liberal cities where they're going after ICE.
They're doxing ICE members.
Then people show up at the ICE members' houses.
They threaten their family members.
They dumped trash in one of the ICE officers' front yard, threatening family members.
You have that marijuana farm, and the media is trying to say that this guy, one of the illegals died at the hands of law enforcement, which is not true.
The guy climbed up, what, 30 feet and then fell.
And unfortunately, someone did lose their life, but that person was running from the police.
But yet, the ICE officers rescued 14 little children who were working on this marijuana farm.
Would you want your child working there?
So they're doing great work.
They're arresting violent criminals.
You've seen all the rap sheets.
We're talking about child predators.
We're talking about murderers.
We're talking about people who hit and run all kinds of bringing drugs into our country.
The fact is, real quick, Brian, is they're serving warrants.
And any other American, if you have a loved one that you love and care about that has committed a crime and you don't want them to go to jail, you can't prohibit an operation.
They would be charged with obstruction of justice.
And so it's one thing for the Democrats to say it, but it's another thing for people to actually go out there on the scene, throw rocks, shoot guns, which we've reported as well, and stop the operation.
You got to charge thoughts.
So I think Christian Noam's absolutely right.
The media is fanning the flames and making it worse, the mainstream media.
But what this is, is defund the police all over again.
If you listen very, very carefully to what some of the Democrats are saying on this, this is defund the police, where they don't want them to go out and serve the warrants and arrest the people, point one.
But point two, this is happening in areas where it's a really bad visual, where you said, hey, we're going to go get the criminals.
We're going to get the people that have rap sheets.
We're going to have people that have jumped bail.
We're going to go find all these people and we're going to deport you because you're bad.
We know you're bad and you're out of here.
And then you're going into farm country and it just is a, I personally thought it was a bad look to be shooting tear gas in an open field where you had migrant workers.
Now, if one of those was a known criminal on one side and working on that farm on the other side, then you go up there.
That guy in the red shirt on the left, we have a warrant for him.
You go arrest him.
But this, you know, it looked like raids when you're on this farm and it just was not a good look.
Now, I absolutely think that the doxing of federal workers who have a job in law enforcement, they are doing a job.
You don't dox the officer because you don't like the chief of police or the mayor's policies that have been given to the chief of police.
You don't dox the workers because you don't like Christine Ohm taking orders from the president of the United States and putting in a policy.
You don't dox the workers that are doing their job in law enforcement.
They woke up one day and they were told, Vinny, this is the operation.
We're going to go out here.
You're going to do this, this, and this.
Get together with team number seven, 10 guys and gals on there that you already know.
You're going to go out and you're going to do this.
That's your assignment today.
What do you say?
Okay, we'll go do it.
And so now Vinny gets doxed and they're coming to your house.
They better be careful because you're coming to the house and you're getting really close to crossing that front door.
And when you cross Vinny's front door and threaten his family because he's a doxed worker, you're going to catch a bullet.
And that is what I think is the horrible outcome.
But I think that's the outcome that Dems want.
They want a dead body in Vinny's porter.
Exactly.
I was just going to say that they want that spark that's going to set the fire to do like, to riot, to do the whole George Floyd situation.
Remember Betty.
Yeah.
Vinny, the ICE guy shot her.
Yeah.
When she came at the crowbar through his front door, he's got a two-year-old son.
Yeah, exactly.
But I don't know.
Like, let's be honest.
We are in the position that we're in with all these people here, all the, all the, all the, don't me wrong.
It's been happening forever.
But the past four years, the numbers are anywhere from 18 to 20 million illegal people.
The door was wide open, wide open, and everybody came in.
Okay.
Trump, ICE, there was no door.
Thank you, Tom.
Yeah, it was just a barn.
It was just a barn.
Everything's open.
So he's trying to fix the problem.
Obviously, it's not going to be perfect.
But if we go to the root of the problem, the word illegal, that's what a lot of these freaking people, including Democrats, miss.
Illegal.
Tom, when you're talking about crime, the first thing you did when you came to America was you committed a crime.
Okay.
Plain and simple.
I'm sorry if you've been here for a while, if you've been here for two years and you're kind of being a good person.
You're trying to do it.
But the rules are the rules and the law is the law.
Yes, they should start to shift something.
And again, I think you're the first person that said it where you're like, if you've been here for five years, if you've been here for 10 years, you're paying taxes, you're doing your thing.
What do you say, Pat?
Like a little penalty, pay a penalty, do some back pay, you get to stay.
But that system, I don't think, are they anywhere near?
I think Trump is talking about it a couple of days ago, Rob, if I'm not mistaken.
They're trying to figure out something for the people, Pat, the farmers or whoever that have been here.
But I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
If you committed, you know, a murder 30 years ago and now they come in and grab you.
I'm sorry.
The murder, the crime still happened.
When you come to the country illegally, I'm so sorry.
My heart hurts for you, but you got to go because everybody else is here.
Didn't break the law.
Period.
That's it.
Change the system.
Change something.
I don't know.
Adam.
One of the greatest Americans in America today is a guy named Tom Homan.
And you might not like what he's doing.
You might not like what he's saying, but there's a lot of Americans that do.
Overwhelmingly, Americans, here's some stats right here.
CNN shows majority of Americans want Trump to deport all illegal immigrants.
New York Times left 55%.
Marquette, 64%.
CBS News, 57.
ABC 56.
Americans say are basically saying, we don't want people who are here illegally to be here.
And those are people who haven't necessarily even done bad crimes.
Those are people who just crossed the border illegally.
So what we're doing is what we're seeing is just normalcy is taking over.
You've committed a crime.
You've came here illegally.
You're going to have to pay a price.
Now, I don't think you should be going to jail for crossing the border.
But what are the ramifications of that?
Now, going after the criminals, the gang act, the gang members, the drug dealers, get these guys locked up, put them in Everglades, what they call it over there.
Alligator Alcatraz, put them in there.
Tom Holman, they said, you know, we can't separate kids from their family.
Well, that's exactly what you do when your father is a drug dealer and he has to go to jail.
We can't separate the mother from the children.
It's exactly what happens when your mother committed a crime.
She has to go to jail.
It sucks.
Nobody likes to see people being rounded up, gathered, and thrown in jail.
Nobody likes that.
It's not pretty.
But none of this is meant to be pretty.
Something called GSD, getting shit done.
Sometimes you got to get shit done.
And you got to break a couple eggs in order to make an omelet.
That's what Tom Holman is doing.
Egg prices are down.
Guys, listen, it's some things are very, very nasty on what you're saying, but this is what they voted for.
Go to the top 20 promises he made on Trump 47, Rob.
This is the promises Trump made.
It's a checklist.
I promise to do the following checklist that get to the bottom of Epps.
That's not on the list.
Yeah, I sent you the picture yesterday.
Anyways, it's on one of the promises that they made, border, and I think it's the top three promises that they had in place.
Exactly.
So, okay, let's go to the next story.
Vinny, tell me what is this story of the CEO being at a ColdPlay concert.
What is that all about?
Okay, so I sent it to Rob.
The guy is Andy Byron, and we fact-checked it.
He's a CEO of Astronomer.
Okay.
He's at a Coldplay concert and with his HR head, Kristen Cabot, and they got caught on the jumbo patron.
Rob, it's a volume up because I believe, I believe the guy, the singer, what's his Chris Mario?
Who's the guy?
Coldplay.
This Cold Play singer.
He's like, he says something like, oh, either they got caught or she's really shy.
Oh, look at these two.
All right.
Come on.
Oh, what?
Look at the friend.
Look at the friend, Pat Red.
So that's the CEO of the company.
He's at a Cold Play concert with the head of his HR.
Who is this?
Is this guy?
He's like an astronomer.
His name is Andy Byron.
I looked it up, Rob.
Look what astronomer.
It's like a tech type.
Is that really what his head of HR is?
That's the head of his HR.
Her name is Kristen Cabot.
This is what that's Grock is saying.
Orchestration from Kristen Cabot is the head of it.
Their alleged affair was exposed on a kiss cam at Cold Play concert in Boston, sparking interest due to workplace ethics.
That's what Grok is saying.
How wild is that?
Why are we talking about this story?
It just happened before we came in here, but I mean, you know, those kiss cams, people are like, no, I don't want to kiss my wife.
In Boston.
No, I don't think it was this morning.
Oh, last night.
Yeah.
Or a couple days.
I don't know when the actual concert was.
Tom, do you know this person is?
No, I think it's welcome to the instant news cycle and the internet and the Kiss Cam all come together.
Wow.
There you go, folks.
If you were wondering, that's the head of HR.
I mean, who looked up and saw it, covers her face, ducks behind her friend.
He ducks to who knows where.
And so it's like, then you heard the guy say, oh, how do they having an affair?
She's really shy.
But could you imagine, like, so guys, just one question real quick, Matt?
What happens Monday morning at work?
She has to.
Go to HR.
That's what you do.
You're going to go straight to HR.
Close the door.
It starts and ends with HR.
Oh, my God.
Okay, so I'm going to go to HR.
How are we going to handle this?
I don't know.
But I mean, seriously, she has to go.
forget about the weekend i mean this is this is horrible if it's a If it's a company with a board, he's fired.
Oh, really?
Yeah, you're firing this guy.
You have to move on because it's shown.
I don't know how big this astronomer, how big of astronomer?
Go to astronomer Crunchbase.
Astronomer Crunch Base.
Is it a big company?
Have you ever heard of Astronomer, Tom?
Astronomer, Growth of Jimmy, high score 62.
How much money have they raised in the past?
Trending.
Trending.
It's probably trending because people are holding.
High activity.
High activity, baby.
Exactly right.
Astronomer.
That wasn't any software.
We're about to have activity.
Astronomer market cap.
Are you ready for activity?
Give me one more second.
However, it has achieved a valuation of $739 billion.
$739 million foreign series.
Okay.
I mean, if it's a nearly a billion-dollar company, you have a board, Series D funding.
He probably owns a percentage of it.
What percentage of the company does Andy, what's his last name?
Andy.
I'm sorry.
Andy Byron.
B-Y-R-O-N-B-Y-R-O-N own.
So what percentage of the company does he own?
Can you find out how much, what percentage he owns?
If it's less than 50.
No problem.
Yeah.
He received a founder-level equity package and possibly get additional shares upon becoming a CEO.
Yeah, so he owns a good amount of shares.
How much that is?
It could be as low as 5%, as high as 25%.
He doesn't own over 51%.
He's fired.
They do that.
They do that.
Why is he fired, Pat?
This isn't Dana White.
This isn't a big name that personality tied to it.
This is a, you know, when the scandal happened New Year's Eve with Dana and his wife.
This isn't that.
Dana's like, no, we're not doing this.
I'm going to run the company.
But this guy's probably within 90 days going to be replaced and step down, get a seat on the board, won't be off the board.
And then they'll have to bring another person in the interim to get it going.
And the HR person has to be fired or she's probably going to step down and resign because it's embarrassing.
You're not getting fired because firing her could cause other types of legal issues for the company.
But to save face, she's going to resign and both of them may resign and step down.
Wow.
Yeah.
By the way.
Just so you know, it happens.
Yep.
It happens.
And Tom and I, one time we were in a meeting 17 years ago, 16 years ago.
You know which one I'm talking about?
He's a smart.
He knows what's coming.
Remember Vistage, the one meeting?
And it happens.
You sit there in the meeting.
It's like, hey, here's what just happened.
Here's what's going on.
Assistant, boom, lawyer, this.
God, you're about to lose everything.
Yep, that house on Malholland Drive, all that stuff is gone.
I would just do the George Costanza defense and just be like, is that, is that wrong?
Was I not supposed to.
Was that what was the thing?
Or do the Charles White one?
Yeah.
If she come to me and she'd tell me, hey, you are, you do.
Yeah, I am.
I mean, this is the funniest podcast I did.
By the way, can you show, this is the intro of the podcast that's going out tomorrow with Charleston White.
Our crew here loves this guy.
Absolutely loves this guy.
They keep telling me for the last year and a half, have him on.
We finally had him on.
And let me tell you, this was not an organized, this is organized chaos.
But I let you watch the intro.
Go ahead, Rob.
Watch this.
Trump is a weenie.
Trump is a weenie.
Yeah, Trump named three ball fights we know Trump didn't have.
So you would rather have Mike Tyson as a president than Trump.
No, Mike Tyson's stupid.
Oh.
Nobody has a clue what you're going to say.
You're so unpredictable.
The Democrats are a very clever slave mouse.
They went and recruited the gays.
That's Sergeant Dick Van Dyke.
The worst thing we could have done to our military is don't ask, don't tell.
Now we asking, and you tell us.
You give me the feeling that you watch a lot of WNBAs.
That's true.
Like, oh, you get WWNB.
Lesbian women are not entertaining.
Go get some hoes that can play basketball.
They supposed to be playing in what she got on right there.
They should have uniforms.
For them to wear plane launchers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In here, running up and down them click-clacking in them hills.
People you'd want to meet, who would it be?
I want to meet the leader, the grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klein.
Wow.
Parenthood is our new Hitler.
Our new Nazi group.
Tell me about it.
That's exterminating strictly black people.
What do you think about this?
Exactly.
He's innocent.
I've seen that.
She's running.
She's still in his bag.
Give me my bag.
Here you go.
You're thinking.
Can you get on back here?
You think this is okay?
Yeah.
In the ghetto, this is normal.
Fighting and fucking the makeup.
Best orgasm in the world.
They made songs about it.
I have no idea how the audience is going to react.
I can't wait.
You know what?
He's saying it's to learn what the life is like when you're raised in certain communities.
And the perspective he gave is going to be very different than what you're saying.
Guys, Brace for Impact.
If you have that ability to watch it, you will be entertained because you will not be able to predict what he's going to say.
And by the way, guess what?
Charleston White is officially on Manek.
If you wanted to ask him a question, you can go on Manek and ask him a question.
Last thing I want to do before we wrap up, and by the way, that interview is going to go out, Rob, tomorrow.
Yes, sir, 9 a.m.
There we go.
Let's see.
I can't wait to read the comments.
I cannot wait to read the comments.
Last one, AutoPen.
So when it comes down to Auto Pen, we go.
White House launches probe into Biden's Auto Pen using major escalation of cover of controversy.
Here's the challenge with this.
This guy here that was his doctor.
No, that's not his Dr. Pat.
This is Anthony Bernal.
He's Joe Biden's top aide and Jill Biden's chief of staff.
Oh, that's right.
This is the guy that was pleading the fifth for asking about the health cover-up, all that stuff.
He's one of them, too.
So while they're going through this about the AutoPen, Biden tells New York Times, Rob, do you have a video on this or is it just a story?
Just a story.
He tells New York Times he did not individually approve names of many pardoned via Autopen.
Well, that's some big stuff there to the point where Josh Hawley came out and had to even talk about this.
He says, former President Joe Biden admitted to New York Times that he did not individually approve each name for category pardons issued via AutoPen, stated that he signed off on a standard for large batches of clemency actions in his final months with aides confirming Mr. Biden did not individually approve each name, 40 categorical pardons that applied to a large number of the Times noted Biden issued four large sets of pardons, three of which were categorical.
Biden's team, led by then White House staff Secretary Stephanie Feldman, managed the auto pen process with emails showing Biden set criteria and meetings with top advisors like Chief of Staff Jeffrey Ziance.
Is that the guy?
And White House counsel Ed Sisko, who relayed instructions to Assistant One Formerator explained rather than Mr. Biden, rather than ask Mr. Biden to keep signing revised versions, his staff waited and then ran the final version through the auto pen, which they saw as a routine procedure.
Okay.
Rob, do you have the Josh Hawley clip?
I do.
On this?
This.
Can you play that?
Go forward.
All over this AutoPen situation.
It's just becoming now front page news.
What in the hell is going on and what can you do about it?
Well, what needs to happen, a couple things.
I mean, first of all, we need to call the person.
We now have the name of the person who managed the auto pen under Biden.
I believe it's the individual is a woman.
She needs to be called before Congress, put under oath, testify in public.
We need to hear from her.
We need to know exactly what did he authorize.
When did he authorize it?
I suspect the truth is, Steve, he didn't authorize anything, which would be like the scandal of the century.
We need to know that.
Number two, there is supposed to be a paper trail.
You know, we had a hearing on this in the Senate a couple of weeks ago.
To me, the big revelation out of that hearing was every time the auto pen is used, there's supposed to be an explicit paper trail.
The president has to, at a minimum, give verbal consent to use it, and a record is made of that.
So let's get all the documents.
Let's see them.
They should be in Biden's archives.
They ought to be in his papers.
We need to go get them.
If Biden's not going to release them voluntarily, Congress ought to subpoena those documents and get them and put them out in public.
Where's the paper trail?
Who authorized the use of the pen?
That's what we need to be getting after.
Okay.
Tom, thoughts on this?
Well, what Biden just said to the New York Times was basically a birthday present to Josh Hawley because Josh Hawley's wanted to investigate this.
And now I think he's going to get his congressional hearing.
If it turns out that the president didn't approve names of pardons, I'd like to know once Congress gets a hold of that, how do those pardons hold up?
I don't know what the legal path is to getting your pardon held up.
Is it reasonable reliance that you reasonably believed you were pardoned?
Okay, well, that's fine.
But if you weren't really pardoned, I want to know what the legal path is here because these pardons impact the American people.
That people who have committed crimes were granted clemency.
All those drug criminals where it turns out now, remember all the marijuana?
Of course.
You call them criminals.
I hate to do that, but it was the people that were in prison for distribution of marijuana that now you would get 14 days at county or something.
So I'm concerned about where do we go from here?
Because Josh Hawley, I believe, is going to have hearings on this.
And if there were names that weren't approved, such as Fauci, I think that opens the whole, it's not Pandora's box.
It opens the process to dive into COVID.
I'm not worried about the individual people that may find out they're not pardoned on other things, but this would open up the ability to prosecute on COVID.
Oh, I personally don't think that like I like Josh Hawley, but Republicans are all bark and nobody.
How many more hearings?
How many more letters?
How many more?
All they do is talk.
Democrats, say what you want about them, bro.
They go for your jugular.
They will start lawfare on your ass.
They will go.
Oh, this property's not worth $15 million or this.
They will go after you and they will cut off your freaking life supply.
Okay, and Pat, if we don't mind, Rob, because I'm going to go back just to get the audience caught up.
Last week, Joe Biden's personal physician, his name was Kevin O'Connor.
He showed up in front of Congress.
He invoked the Fifth Amendment when asked about Biden's mental health, cognitive fitness, and who was actually making decisions in the White House.
Then yesterday, do you mind if we play this, Pat?
This is Anthony Bernal, Joe Biden's top aide and Jill Biden's chief of staff.
He also invoked the fifth.
Look at this guy and tell me if you don't feel guilt.
Go ahead, Rob.
You can play it.
Mr. Bernal, did you ever advise President Joe Biden to pardon his son, Hunter Biden?
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.
Yeah.
Look at how happy he is.
Look at this guy.
Look at him.
Thank you.
We're going to go off the record real quick.
And then look, they go, nope, go back.
I'll go.
They went off the record for a second for a question.
Mr. Bernal, was President Joe Biden fit to exercise the duties of the president?
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my rights under the Constitution.
Let the record reflect that Mr. Bernal has invoked the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.
Mr. Bernal, please be very clear.
Are you declining to answer the question put to you solely on the ground that you believe the answer will incriminate you?
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution.
Well, legally speaking, Mr. Bernal, did any unelected official or family member of President Joe Biden execute the duties of the presidency?
Look at this.
On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question.
You can stop it.
Okay.
Now, if you guys remember, do you guys remember this, Tommy?
About a month ago, David Hogg was caught undercover by James O'Keefe, and he was saying that Bernal was the one actually running the White House.
This is the guy.
The question for me is, like, how corrupt is Vivian?
Too loud.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Go ahead, Rob.
One question for me is like, how corrupt is the DNC if so many people knew or few people knew about Biden?
Well, the president of the United States.
I mean, I did the fact that the DNC is always going to be like a campaign arm of the president, ultimately.
The bigger issue was like the inner circle that was around Biden.
Here we go.
That's it.
And I can't stress, I came straight to see you and know.
But Joe Biden's chief of staff.
Boom.
Like, had an enormous amount of power.
Joe Biden?
Joe Biden's chief of staff.
That was like an open secret.
Like, I would avoid them.
I think he was scary.
Anthony Bernal.
Boom.
That's him.
Okay.
So let's break this down.
The president's personal doctor and his top aide plead the fifth.
Okay.
It's not about classified missions.
It's not about foreign intelligence.
They were asked these simple questions.
Was Joe Biden mentally fit to serve?
Okay, that should be a yes or no answer.
Were you ever told to lie about his condition?
And was someone else calling the shots behind the scenes?
They refused to answer that because under the Constitution, the Fifth Amendment, it protects you when you're answering.
Your answers could expose you to criminal charges.
So I'll ask you guys, what's criminal about saying the president is fine unless he's not?
Okay, unless it is a cover-up, unless someone else was running the country, which I believe that they were, unless the American people were lied to, okay, we were lied to intentionally, repeatedly, and in ways that carry serious legal consequences.
Okay, and listen, this is the Constitution, Pat.
He has the right.
They both have the right to remain silent, but we have the right to demand the truth.
Okay.
And if people that were the closest to him, like this guy, Anthony Bernal right here, were closest when they were the ones calling the shots, something has to, like, what do we do, Tom, to change this?
Like, how do you change the fact that the physician is pleading the fifth when we know?
Let me ask you a question.
Yeah.
Vinny.
Rob, can you run a poll?
Which of these two issues?
Which of these two issues is guys in the back are so good?
Like, whoever did that?
That's professional.
That's Jake or the guys.
Make some noise so I know who it is.
Was it Andres or Jake?
Jake?
Jake.
Yes.
You're a stud, buddy.
But, you know, when the poll Rob right now is which of these two issues is more important to you?
Before you answer right off the bat, take five seconds to vote for it, okay?
If you could only choose one of these two to be revealed, the truth, Epstein-Files or Fauci, which one is it?
Rob, run the poll.
Okay.
Epstein.
And I'm going to give you some data that just was released right now.
Okay.
Epstein or Fauci?
You only have one to choose from.
I know you're greedy.
You want both.
We all are, but you can only choose one.
Very greedy, and I'm like, I know.
But which one is more important to you?
I won't even sell either one of them.
I'm going to, because I know I could sell them, but I'm not going to sell it to you.
I'm going to leave it to you.
Okay.
And then we all can vote for it.
It's so hard.
It's so hard.
You got to pick one because it's not 50-50.
To me, it's not a 50-50.
I think me personally, with and hear me out, with China, with Trump holding them accountable for that, Rob.
Well, on one seat nothing.
With the trade war, with the leak, with the lockdowns, with the vaccine, with people, my family members, a vaccine injured, with the deaths, with the lies, with the cancer that's happened, I would go COVID.
Okay, by the way.
And I think, Tom, you're probably there as well.
And Adam, I think you're, I don't even need to ask you.
I know you're going to be there as well.
I don't think either is that crazy important to you.
Well, I think what happened with China with Fauci is a little bit more.
So watch people think you're a loser if you choose Epstein.
We already know stupid people are a loser.
I got you.
But go up.
I agree with Trump.
Go up, Rob.
That if you choose this, how many people voted?
1658.
Okay.
62 Fauci.
Yeah, so 60.
38% Epstein.
So now, they just, Enton, you know, Enton from CNN, which sounds like the polls they do is fairly fair and reasonable.
I agree.
So you can't just pick and choose to say, no, no, this one I don't agree with.
They ran a poll to see how the MA-based voters that voted for Trump, what percentage of them had this Epstein fumble caused them to lose their mind that they said, I'm done with Trump.
I'm moving away.
Rob, can you please play that clip?
Watch this.
Okay.
And we have to show stuff that agree with us and don't agree with us.
So just go ahead, Rob.
I mean, look, I think this one surprised me.
Republicans have been leading.
All these complaints online going after Trump and the Epstein files, you might think his approval ratings were going down, Republicans.
If anything, they're going up.
Republicans who approve of Trump, look at our CNN poll.
The prior one, 86%.
The one out this week, 88% were Republicans.
How about Quinnipiak?
The prior poll, 87% approval of Republicans.
This week out, 90% with Republicans.
If anything, Donald Trump's approval rating has gone up since this whole Epstein saga started.
He is at the apex or close there too in terms of his popularity with Republican voters.
Wait for Epstein files, complaints.
This was just released now.
You just proved that not everything online is real.
It's real.
Who knew?
Amazing.
Twitter and X are not reality.
Is there any reason that you can find that this hasn't taken hold and hurt him?
Yeah.
I mean, on X, all you hear about is the Epstein files.
But how about out in the real public?
Republicans who said the top issue was Epstein case.
The answer is one.
One.
And not one percent one respondent.
This is a great little finding that Ariel Edwards-Levy, who of course is part of our polling unit, found just one single Republican said that the nation's top problem is, in fact, the Epstein case.
Not much of a surprise that therefore Donald Trump's approval rating has not suffered with Republicans because of the Epstein case.
Because the bottom line is most Americans say it's not high up on their priority.
Okay, so Vinny, how do you respond to that when you see something like that?
Because again, CNN would have loved to have shown this to show the decline.
So now watch this.
Remember how I said whoever you follow and whatever you say, you know, whoever you follow a lot long enough and you read their tweets every day, whether you know it or not, you're going to take a lot of their philosophy and ideology on you.
Affirmations have power, words have power.
Okay.
America's not X.
It's just not.
I'm telling you, America's not X.
However, imagine if the people who are upset with what happened with Epstein, to me, biggest fumble so far in the administration, it's that.
And it's still not affected him.
Remember back and I said, I can go to New York.
I'm still not going to.
Okay.
If they want to get a certain level of status of like sane status, if they're able to address this Fauci thing and get it, remove Fauci's pardon.
Supreme Court votes 5-4.
You can go to Supreme Court.
Supreme Court votes 5-4.
The pardon's been removed.
Then Hawley, Rand Paul, they go after him.
RFK goes after Fauci.
All of that is public.
Fauci's not going to go to jail, but all of that is public.
And we all find out that him and all these guys lied.
The level of redemption, how many people will sit there and say, freaking about time?
Oh, I mean, you're saying find out that they lied.
I mean, we already know that they lied.
The facts are out there, but it's the accountability of holding his foot to the fire and having him go in front of Congress and not because he knows that the Democrats own the House and the Senate.
Fauci was yelling at people because he knows he was untouchable.
The Americans, now forget about politics, just how Americans feel about COVID, they're up over 70% support.
And they're in the I told you so.
So when you ask them, are you pleased to hear Johnson and Johnson said that they went too fast?
They didn't test it.
Are you pleased to see court cases that are saying those vaccines are unsafe?
Are you pleased to see saying all the mandates for kids having vaccines have been removed?
Are you pleased with that?
All of that's over 70%.
Strictly related to the vaccine, Americans are over 70% approving and supporting all of the truth that's coming out right now.
You take that, Pat.
That 70%.
Oh, now you put Fauci on the stand.
He's the villain that caused it.
So what I'm saying to you is, and Adam, I'm going to come to you and we're going to wrap up.
What I'm saying to you is, if we have one tenth of influence over the administration, 1% influence over the administration, and they watch.
We know they watch to show some of the things that we say.
The way politics works, stories come and go.
Trust me, a crisis is going to happen next week.
You're going straight to the crisis.
Wait for it.
You will see how quickly America moves on.
Fortunately, unfortunately, whatever you want to call it, that's the game of politics how it works.
That is the worst interception of all time.
Boom, you moved on.
Again, to the next fumble.
But if these guys are able to actually do this, I believe this is bigger than John F. Kennedy's assassination.
I believe this is bigger than 9-11.
I believe this is the biggest one out of all of them.
I agree if they do this.
And why do you say that over JFK 9-11?
Because JFK didn't influence 100% of the world.
Epstein didn't influence 100% of the world.
9-11 didn't influence 100% of the world.
COVID and Fauci influenced 100% of the world.
Shut everything down.
Yeah.
No matter whether you lived in Australia, Italy, Spain, China, Japan, U.S., Canada, Brazil, Mexico, you were affected by Fauci.
100%.
100%.
That I'm very interested in.
Very interested in.
And if you leave the people out of it, 70% of Americans are aligned on the COVID vaccination.
Forget the people.
Don't be political.
Just the topic of the vaccination.
70% of America are aligned, right?
Now, can we be honest with each other?
What are the odds?
Less than 5%.
Okay.
And that's the one thing that I'm, I'm, I'm, it drives me bananas that if the auto pens, remember when they lined them all up, it definitely, it was all the same.
I want, we want, and this is the thing when it comes to people like me, we want, when I say accountability, give us one of these guys arrest him.
But, Vinny, no, you're not 80%.
Yeah.
Look where the Epstein issue fell in the streets.
Whatever we like, we think everybody else likes.
They don't.
Whatever we follow, we feel everybody else follows.
They don't.
They don't.
That's how this works.
So that's telling you that.
Adam, give me your final thoughts.
And then.
Well, look, I'm not going to do what you thought I was going to do.
Just freak out and just tell you that you were wrong and tell you I was right.
I wouldn't do that.
I'm better than that.
I'm not going to tell you that I'm good looking and you're ugly and I'm smart and you're stupid.
I wouldn't do that to you, Vinny.
You would say stupid, though.
Okay, would.
But I do think there was a message here in this sort of like mini intervention that we had for Vinny.
I don't think you're a loser.
I don't think you're stupid.
I don't think you're a gullible weakling.
I don't think you're any of the things that Trump called his own base.
I do think you've been a little bit brainwashed.
And this has been my entire emphasis of our point, what we did today.
Hold on.
And when I said, yeah, okay, I'd like to know what happened with Epstein, but I'm not going to lose my mind if I don't get the exact answer that I've been looking for.
And what's been happening is that they told you what happened and you disbelieve it and you go down a rabbit hole to unprove what has already been proven that you didn't prove.
And it's just a pathway to nowhere.
So I think PBD, because he loves you and appreciates your perspective, we all do.
He's like, well, look, dude, maybe you're wrong on this one.
And here's some data that shows you how wrong you are.
Is that 1% of the people?
Wait, wait, that doesn't mean I'm wrong at all.
That's not you, but you're wrong.
You are wrong.
You are not wrong.
I'll tell you why you're wrong.
Because on the top 20 issues that Trump campaigned on, Epstein wasn't on the list.
I also disagree with what you're saying.
Well, then let me finish my statement and then you guys can disagree.
On polling of America, about you're ready to basically call Donald Trump a liar, Kash Patel a liar, Dan Bongino.
You said they're all liars.
And now public polling is actually approval is higher than ever.
By the way.
So maybe I'll misinterpret this wrong.
No, no.
Those two don't correlate here.
Tell me where I'm what Anton.
No, it's not that you messed up.
Exactly.
You're assuming Enton is telling you that it's not people's top issue.
Yes.
And only it was one person's top issue.
Not even 1%.
He said it.
Correct.
One person's top issue.
And his popularity even went up.
Exactly.
And the point I'm trying to make is X is not America.
YouTube is not America.
Facebook, Instagram is not America.
Fox News is not America.
CNN is not America.
These are all factions of America.
And to him, this is a very important matter, period.
He's got nephews and nieces.
He has the right to do so.
And you, you can say, no, it's not important to me.
And then data can prove both people wrong and say, you guys don't know what you're talking about.
Here's what America's interested in.
All right, great, cool.
And we move on.
So it can still be very important to the guy.
The only thing I'm saying is allow the right people to wash your brain.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know, some of the dirt, you know, that washes you also, the shit sticks.
Listen, it's been hard to do so.
I've been wrong a ton of times.
And I'll say, yeah, my bad, I was wrong on this.
I was wrong on Trump.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
I've been wrong.
And I have the balls, just like Ken Langone said about Trump.
Listen, when I'm wrong, I'm going to say, yo, my bad, I move on.
That's the biggest problem here.
You're just validating everything that I stood for the last two podcasts is that you're doubling down on what nobody else gives a shit about as much as you.
I respect that you think this way, but nobody else does.
Okay.
Well, one other guy.
And in spite of your convictions and you're brainwashed in other situations.
No, no, no.
And it is a difference in your brainwashed too.
Here's the problem.
We got to wrap up.
You don't have the balls to say, you know what?
I was wrong.
Say you were wrong.
I'm wrong.
Say you were wrong about what?
Oh, my God.
It's like a pointless situation here.
Charleston White.
Guys, there's going to be a lot of brainwashing, but it ain't going to be clean water.
You're going to hear some stuff that's going to be very offensive.
This goes out tomorrow.
One minute he's bashing the president.
Next minute, he's saying he's the reason why he voted for him.
Next minute he's bashing him again.
And the next minute he's the greatest of all time.
It's a very weird podcast.
However, those of you guys that are competing for the Manect contest, I can't wait to see you guys here.
We only have two weeks left for those of you that are competing and they're still in it.
Rob, if you want to go to the leaders bulletin, out of nowhere for lightweight, John Kiraku is first place.
Ashley Glenn is still there.
Wow, John Carlos at 140 two months combined.
You have Scott Woolley, Dan Rohn, Ryan Old YouTuber, Scott Storch.
Oh, Scott could be in this one.
And then who's ninth and tenth, Rob?
I don't know who's ninth and then Tarolyn and Anna Kasparin.
Anna Kasparin's 10th place.
And then let's go to Middleweight.
On Middleweight, we have Tommy Robinson, Dean Mason, Constantine, DJ Shipley, Aaron Mont, Patricia Brasquires.
You got a bunch of other guys there.
Then go to Heavyweight, Mason, Brinkat, Mara, Garcia, Matt Sapala, Sardor, Cap Chatfield, Brock, Santino, Patrick Williams, and then Super Heavyweight.
Lindy's destroying him.
She is.
She's just on.
She's going to break a record this month, Lindy.
And Vincent O'Shaughan, Timothy.
Andy Elliott was like, I'm going to break every record here.
He slowed down a little bit.
Slow down, but Lindy Lee is a little bit more.
Timothy Ryan.
Then you got myself, Tom, Adam, Andy, Vargas, Gargoya.
Who's 10th place?
Dennis Poneb.
And then go to users.
Gargoyo.
It's going to be the top three categories.
So Kylan Webb.
Okay, so it could be Kylan, Mike Lamb, and Shah Taj.
They're top three right now competing for it.
Anybody can go.
All you need to do is Manect people, ask people questions in there, and you leave people reviews and unique reviews.
You score points.
So you can download the app and ask them and compete.
And you're going to come out here and have dinner with us.
And then we're going to go to the cigar lounge afterwards and hang out together and go to the existing experts.
Zeus is just Zeus's.
Holy moly.
But look at the race between Dorothy and Dorothea.
Dorothea.
Dorothea.
Hecca.
Heka's the odds.
Heka's love.
I love to meet Hecca.
Dr. Cox.
Right.
Hecca.
We're going to have a good time.
Gang, download the app.
It's going to be a big announcement with Manect coming here very much.
How soon?
Like, I'm talking like one will be in three to four weeks.
Then the big one's going to be in September at the vault.
