Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick are joined by comedian Andrew Schulz as they cover the release of the JFK assassination files, Don Lemon getting sexually harassed at CNN, and Kanye West's unhinged rant against Beyonce and Jay-Z.
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Okay, folks, we have a special guest in the house.
Let me tell you why he's so special.
He is so special.
Because we had a chance to go watch this guy's show called Life.
I went with my wife and Vinny, and I think Adam was there, and Tom was there.
Let me tell you, whatever you're doing this weekend, add to your to-do list, watch his special.
Just do me a favor and watch it.
Maneck me after you're done watching it, but go watch a special.
You'll thank me later.
And by the way, watch it with your wife.
Maybe not with your kids, but definitely with your wife.
You will crack up.
Let me tell you what's happened with this guy a little bit to understand how big of a deal he is.
A few years ago, when we got acclimated, we started building a relationship.
He was famous, but not famous like today.
You could text him, and it was like 30 minutes.
Boom.
We're going back and forth, all this stuff.
But then when levels of fame increase, it goes to a day, a week.
He's not at the month yet to a year.
But let me tell you where it got to.
It got to a point that he got so famous that I used to call and say, hey, Andrew, how you doing?
This is Larry Andrew Schultz handler.
How can you help?
He's graduated to that level of wealth.
He's making money like never before, like never before.
And you know he's got the savings because of the haircut he got.
He saves that money.
He's very committed to saving money.
He's got a family.
But at the same time, when I think about him and his swagger, his walk, he talks to all these shows and the way he does it.
If the rat pack was alive, he would be one of them.
He'd be part of that crew because he's that guy.
He's likable.
He's a stud of a guy, respected by everybody.
And I think in the next couple of years, he's going to get a massive back from somebody.
I don't know who it is.
I'm just putting it out there.
Wow.
I think Nick should get some big money in the next couple years.
The day that happens, I'm calling him for a loan that I'm probably going to talk to his handler.
But with that being said, the great Andrew Schultz is an assistant.
How you doing, man?
How you feeling?
Thank you.
These are all lies that you're telling us.
All lies.
I respond immediately.
No, no, he actually does respond.
I'm just giving him a heartbeat.
I texted Schultz yesterday in two seconds.
Hey, see you tomorrow.
Boom.
That's it.
I'm in there.
I'm quick.
So you, you don't respond quickly.
Who's this?
Adam?
Yeah, I had to say I was one of the Tate brothers to get on this podcast.
Adam's in a different business.
We're having kids.
Adam is dating kids.
I mean, not dating kids, but dating young people.
Speaking of the tape, brother, they're 18 and above.
Adam's in a different life.
21 plus.
21 plus.
He's not allowed to.
By the way, if anybody brings their daughters here that's between 18 to 21, we tell Adam to take the day off.
He is not allowed to be at the office here.
But with that being said, we got a lot of stories to go.
Let me kind of give you some of the updates here.
What's that?
No growth since the last time I was here.
It is what it is, man.
He's just working backwards, but it is what it is.
One of these days.
Vinny, on the other hand, is living a different life.
But story.
Celibacy.
It's called celibacy.
The reason why Schultz is here is because Schultz is going to tell us.
I asked him, I said, Schultz, before you come here, specifically, I said three things I want you to do.
But the most important thing, I need you to read the 80,000 pages of the JFK file.
So he read it last night.
He's ready.
I got it for you.
He's going to give you a breakdown of what happened with that.
He's our private investigation.
So it's very easy.
We'll go through that.
That's what God is.
That's what everybody was looking for, right?
That was it, right?
Schultz, we were so supportive.
We were looking at secrets.
Thank you.
That was on page 80,000.
All right, we got that to talk about.
We got Ripple.
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A few other things.
Davy Wire CEO steps down.
Jeremy Boring.
We'll talk about that.
Don Lemon says women at CNN sexually harassed him, including one who touched his nipples.
What?
Yeah.
Don Lemon said someone touched his nipples, which is kind of weird.
So walking around without a shirt is awesome.
I love that.
I want to know who it is that touched the nipples.
Don't you want to know the name of it?
Tell us, Don, who it was.
Alec Baldwin's wife.
I don't know if you saw that on the red carpet.
Oh, that's what he said.
I can't wait.
I want to get your reaction, especially with this documentary/slash Netflix special that you got called Life.
You have to see how she reacts.
It's very entertaining.
Charlie Kirk is doing his stuff, and something happens where a guy claims he was.
Anyway, you just have to watch this.
Charlie is such a special guy when it comes down to these types of things.
Good news for our family because Happy Gilmore 2 is coming out.
My son is a big fan of Happy Gilmore.
So the next one's coming out.
Something was dropped.
JFK Files.
I know you got a bunch of things you want to talk about it.
SpaceX, Elon, these guys waited for months.
Biden didn't want to do it.
They go up there.
They bring him down and it's so bad that they have to actually lift him up because they don't know how to walk because they haven't used the muscles.
Very interesting stuff.
And then Gavin Newsome Schools, Tim Waltz on Mega, denies it was just racism and misogyny.
And Tim Waltz said he could kick all of their asses, which is pretty epic.
I mean, Dana White may want to use him and put him in a ring.
It would actually get some eyeballs.
And then a few other things happened with Kanye and Kim Kardashian that Adam wants to talk about.
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Having said that, let's get right into it.
Vinny, JFK Files.
I'm going to read this to you.
So we are told, Rob, that 80,000 pages are being dropped.
80,000 pages are being dropped.
And this is something a lot of people have been waiting for.
The president says we're not going to redact any of it.
We're going to share all of it with everybody.
Once it is released, you know, one by one by one, different research people are going through it.
Well, I'm going to notice this.
I'm going to look for this.
I'm going to look for that.
Vinny, so far, what have you seen?
Because what I see here from Newsweek, Lee Harvey Oswald was poor shot, JFK file reveals.
CIA responsible for JFK assassination agent says, this is Newsweek.
What do the JFK files reveal about Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby?
Okay, this is the Hindustanian Times, which, of course, you got to trust those guys because they do a great job.
But let me read what they released and then what I got here.
Vinny, I'm going to come to you next.
Here we go.
So what has it written?
1,123 pages released Tuesday by President Trump detailing Lee Harvey Oswald's pre-63 assassination travels, including to Finland, Mexico City, Soviet, Cuban embassies, where he sought a Cuban visa per the National Archives files.
An FBI memo from Director J. Edgar Hoover written hours after Oswald's death urges perdophiles to assure the public that Oswald was the one who killed Kennedy amid his arrest for shooting JFK in Dallas with Trump noting.
We have a tremendous amount of paper.
You've got a lot of reading, ties that known, with files showing links to gambling, racketeering from Chicago roots of Jacob Rubinstein, procurator Stephen Fagan, great last name, who said Ruby is for some people the Rosetta Stone that you can use to unwrap the entire Kennedy conspiracy theory.
We got a bunch of things to show you here.
Vinny, take it away.
Well, yesterday on the unusual suspects, Connor made a really good point.
They released 80,000, a lot of them that are old, nothing that was so outlandish where we're like, oh my God, it was this person definitively.
But he made a great point where he said, whatever you were looking for, whatever you wanted from whatever point of view, you got it that day.
If you thought Israel was responsible, guess what?
There was enough in there for somebody to have the conclusion that Israel, especially because they were.
I apologize.
I know.
I apologize.
So the fact that, you know, am I the resident Jew?
No title.
That's my job.
With that haircut you used to have.
You don't know about this.
Yeah, I'll keep you on your toes.
Always guessing.
So if you wanted to point the finger at Israel, there's enough proof in here.
What's the point?
What's happening?
Show the form.
Rob, where's the one with the Israel?
Rob, what's that one?
If you have that one right there, this is what.
This is regarding Gary Underhill, who was a intelligent agent during World War II, who after the assassination of John F. Kennedy went to a friend's house in New Jersey, told the friends that a small clique within the CIA was responsible for JFK's assassination and that he was afraid for his life and that he should flee the country.
Less than six months later, he was found shot to death in a Washington apartment.
The coroner ruled it a suicide.
Oof.
So that's July 19, 1967.
Yeah, what else do you have?
Go ahead.
No, go ahead, Rob.
Go ahead.
This is more documents.
Go ahead, Adam.
That's the CIA.
They're implicating the CIA?
Yes.
Yes.
He's just going through the documents.
No, he's going through a bunch.
There was a bunch of play here.
What else do we have, Rob?
No, the surge letter is important.
This one right here.
Tom, if you want to take it away, I'll zoom in.
No, this is to the Russian ambassador.
And so there was a handwritten note so that it was legitimized.
And they retyped this.
So you see the CIA up there retyped this so they could put it in their archive.
But he was claiming, he says, listen, Mr. Lee H. Oswald is traveling with CIA, and he will be killed after he does the kill.
And he is allegedly an assassin being trained to kill Kennedy.
And this guy's bringing this in August, right?
August something team.
Three months before, three and a half months before.
Yep, August 15th.
And so it's true that you got everything you wanted, but what you really saw here is there's a bunch of documents that seem to say that what the Underhill letter said is a group of people in the CIA were training Oswald, had contact with Ruby, and people were pointing to it.
Or the one thing that everybody thought, isn't it weird that Alan Dulles of the CIA was on the Warren Commission, making sure that things were in or not in?
Guess what?
That now really looks like a legitimate statement.
I mean, a lot of research went into Roger Stone's book, and he said that.
And now we've got all these documents that seem to be pointing very conclusively that the CIA had fingerprints on Oswald's travel, fingerprints on Underhill, fingerprints with the Russian ambassador, where people are saying, look, Oswald's your shooter, one of them, and then he's going to be killed.
Andrew, how much you care about this?
Zero almost.
Really?
Yeah, it's so weird.
Like, I've been trying to care.
Yeah.
Tell me why.
I don't know.
It's like, I think it's more that, you know, everything in media has become a Rorschach test where it's just like, what you already feel is what you're going to see.
So I don't know if any like hearts or minds are changed by this information.
There's no conclusive information.
Like you were saying, if you want to blame the Jews, there's enough to blame the Jews.
If you want to blame the CIA, there's enough to blame the CIA.
If you want to blame the president of Mexico, I thought he was in there for some reason as well.
And it's just like, there's nothing conclusive enough to get everybody to agree on one thing.
So everybody continues to go down their little rabbit holes and then we don't get anywhere.
And then the discourse just continues online and everybody just kind of complains.
So it's like, what is the solution?
What do we really want out of it?
Like, what would you like to know?
No, I think for you, though, because I think the audience cares to know your opinion.
You're a guy that's comedians are brilliant and they're very smart.
And you're not just a comedian.
You're a very smart guy.
Camera's off.
One can have a six-hour conversation at dinner with you, and it's going to be actually a very good conversation.
Tell me, like, to the people that do care or those don't care, don't you think it's important for people to know what happened to kill a president and why would they kill a John F Kennedy?
100%.
But I think it's like, I think right now, like young people are so detached from like what JFK even was or did.
He's an airport.
Sure.
That's who JFK is.
Like that's his legacy now to young people.
We are a little bit different.
Like our parents remember exactly where they were the moment that happened.
It was so impactful.
But like a 19-year-old kid might have no clue who JFK is.
Like honestly.
So I think you would argue that like RFK is more popular than JFK to young people.
Today.
Yeah.
Today.
Yeah.
I would say known.
Maybe a word would be known.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
This is no like indictment on like what he achieved or what he was responsible for.
It's just more like the relation to people, right?
So for me, I think the importance of this story is America's at an all-time low in confidence in our institutions.
And I think the way you build confidence back is tell us the truth.
And we don't believe a lot of things that we're being told by whatever institution it is.
It could be medicine, pharmaceuticals.
It could be health.
It could be military-industrial complex, whatever it is, government.
So I think we're just kind of craving some truth.
We're craving some honesty.
And once we get some honesty, we can rebuild that faith.
We want to trust institutions.
You want to trust the people in power.
But right now we don't.
So I think this drops and we're like, finally, we're going to know exactly what happened.
They trust us.
We trust them.
We can move forward.
And it just kind of feels like.
So let me ask this question.
Maybe the question is the following.
Say this is out and inconclusive.
Okay.
The CIA did it.
We did it.
I mean, you just saw the document right there that we're going to kill him and then the guy that killed Kennedy.
Well, that was from the Russian embassy.
So I think this is where a lot of things trigger.
One, the CIA, I imagine, is this like massive that like there are little CIAs within the CIA.
So he was saying there's like that guy who got killed seven months later.
And he was like, there's a little faction within the CIA that was responsible for the death of JFK.
Like to me, that's believable.
But is that an indictment on the entire CIA?
Does the entire CIA come together and decide that this is what's going to happen?
Is there a rogue faction within the CIA?
So I think it's very easy for us and it kind of like appeases us when we just go, oh, CIA, bad.
FBI, bad.
Israel, bad.
Like we just take these like blanket statements when in reality, we don't even exactly know what the relationship is.
Like I hear all these people like online, and please believe they're not geopolitical experts at all.
They usually yell at OnlyFans Girls.
And now they're telling me exactly what happens in the world geopolitically.
Like they become like if you're a guy who used to throw parties and play poker, now you know really what the truth is in the world.
So these are, oh, yeah, Israel's controlling us and making us do all this stuff.
It's like, how do we know they're not our errand boys?
How do we know when we want someone killed and we don't want our fingerprints on it?
We go, yo, BB, do that thing that you were told to do.
Like, why are we so quick to believe that we're the ones that are on our knees?
I mean, to me, it makes way more sense that America would tell another country far less powerful to go do what needs to be done for our interests.
Now, what are those interests?
That's where things get a little tricky.
Like, those interests might be, you know, lining the pockets of Boeing.
You know, I don't know what those interests are, but I think that's a far more believable scenario that nobody even talks about.
I think that's a great point.
Are you trying to say that the U.S. government or CIA or FBI maybe gets involved in regime changes around the world?
No, we do governments.
Of course.
Of course, we do.
And of course, I looked at like what a great perspective.
And I haven't heard that.
Maybe whether it's Israel or maybe it's MI6 in the UK or maybe it's whoever it is around the world, maybe they're our errand boy and we control their government.
They're not controlling our government.
Yeah.
I mean, why is that not like the easiest, most plausible scenario?
We're the biggest, strongest, most powerful country in the world.
But when it comes to something like this, which was one of, if not the greatest tragedy, like travesties in the history of our nation, it was that and 9-11.
If you don't know the, but by the way, the truth is out there, okay?
Also, the whole Abraham Lincoln thing and the Civil War thing that kind of stuff.
Yeah, but JFK on camera on camera, shot in the head, proved that a magic bullet did it.
Everybody knows who did it, but we couldn't say anything.
They proved it.
We can't get like, by the way, we can't act like this.
Isn't really, really important.
We have to know the answers, which we're never going to get.
They tried to do it with Trump a year ago.
So hold on a second.
So what is our attitude supposed to be?
Just like Ben Shapiro, who anything with USS Liberty, if Israel's involved, it's man, it happened 60 years ago.
Just yesterday, he came out and he was like, JFK, who cares?
It was so long ago.
Why?
Because it happened so long ago.
We're not supposed to find out the answer.
They literally tried to do the same shit to Trump, but God got involved.
There's no way you could tell me him doing this to a chart didn't get involved.
So I think we deserve, and I get it.
There's so many.
Oh, I know.
Did Israel tried to kill Trump?
Is that what you're saying?
No, I'm saying people.
No, I'm just listening.
I'm just saying an assassination attempt that almost.
No, I'm just saying, by the way, it wasn't.
If you believe that that dorky ass white boy was walking around pointing at a roof and that guy climbed on a roof and chilled and shot and nobody was paying attention to him, that's unbelievable.
Six cell phones, encrypted messages from overseas.
Very simple question.
What if 100% you know was CIA involved?
Does it do anything to you?
100%.
Yeah, because then that agency to me has to go bye-bye.
The entire agency.
Yes.
The agency has to go bye bye.
So, okay, because of that magnitude, they all don't have that.
So we don't have an intelligence community.
Yeah, but hang on, hang on.
So from an agency from 60, let's just say 62 years ago, they did it.
The whole agency needs to go done?
I say yes.
That's our so because the biggest as a military veteran, treason.
When you do something to hurt the country, this agency killed the sitting president.
It doesn't get worse treasonous than that.
Yes, everybody's gone.
No.
What do you mean, no?
Well, let him get it out.
Let him get it out.
No, but you understand, like, for instance, if Valutainment did something wrong of that magnitude, done, wipe out.
But the example in this situation would be if out of 200 employees, 22 people had a plot to do something that the other 178 didn't know.
The whole company needs to go?
I don't think so.
Do you not think that the head and the higher ups of this, if this is true, they didn't know?
That doesn't take us to the same time.
Let me ask you a question.
Let's just say these guys did it.
Why did they do it?
Was it for cause?
Was it for crusade?
Was it for correcting an injustice?
Or was it because they got paid?
What do you think would be the main reason?
I think they got paid and because the main things he was trying to do was not get us into war.
He was anti-war.
He was doing a bunch of stuff that was anti-Israel.
He was doing a bunch of stuff.
Let's just say he is an anti-war guy because we know he was.
Yes.
So anti-war hurts who?
The military industrial complex.
Okay, perfect.
So do you think the CIA agent working for the CIA cares deeply whether it's anti-war or not or for war?
Do you think they care?
The person individually.
Do you think the agent is that much of a believer that they care to say, this is why we took him out because he's anti-war?
Do you think the motivation was somebody paid an agent to take him out?
You know what I'm asking?
Yeah.
Probably paying the agent.
Okay, so then guess what?
If that's the case.
It's not an indictment on the anti-I mean, look, I just sold a company two and a half years ago.
You know how many times when you go through this, you see bribery happening with different things?
Hey, we'll do this for you to turn against this and we'll do that to turn again.
You know, you watch everybody.
You're like, all right, well, I thought that guy was 100%.
Okay, that's what's going on.
I thought this guy was.
These types of things happen in so many cities.
That's not an indictment on everybody in the company.
However, let me ask the other question.
Say it comes out that actually Israel was involved.
What does it change for you?
If Israel was involved?
Let's just say Israel was involved.
And what does that change for you?
For you?
I mean, immediately.
Immediate accountability.
Immediate accountability.
Absolutely.
Okay.
And what does that mean?
Well, are those people still around?
Are those still people still government?
So none of them are alive.
None of them are here.
Two years ago.
If they were 30 years old then, they're probably 92 years old today.
So there's a 95% chance none of them are alive if they were over 30.
I'm just kind of doing math.
I mean, immediate extradition if they are, you know, as I'm sure Israel has done in the past with Nazis that they've like found around the world.
Immediate extradition, death penalty on public in America, fire, pay-per-view.
Immediate, if that was the case.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, if it's proven guilty, you have to obviously give them due process, but 100%.
And then I think that that would like greatly fracture the trust.
Because understand, like, people are emotional beings.
So like the perception of a relationship matters.
Like right now, there's a great fracture, I think, between with the perception of America and Israel's relationship.
And you should be able to criticize every fucking country.
I hate this idea that you can't criticize them.
Like we criticize America.
Half America shits on America every single day.
The other half shits on America every single day.
But we can't question like what another country is doing because we're allies?
Bullshit.
No, you shouldn't.
Every single country can get it or should be criticized a thousand percent.
But what's going to happen is if you see that another country killed one of our leaders, even if we're besties right now, that relationship is probably severed.
It probably severed forever, in all seriousness.
I mean, listen, we nuked Japan and now, you know, we hang out, we go there, it's just the best time ever, 100%.
But I don't know if Israel's got something as good as sushi.
Do they have the biggest?
He says Tel Aviv Nightlife is amazing.
No, no.
I guess what I'm trying to say is like the public perception, there's going to be so much animosity that I don't know if any relationship could overcome that.
You have to say that.
So that severs the relationship immediately because the politicians are going to have to react to public sentiment.
You can't just tell people, oh, but that was in the past.
Now we're in the past.
I agree.
I fully.
So that's the part where, you know, the average non-journalist, you know, today there's two different types of journalists, right?
There's the citizen journalist and there's the journalist.
And the question becomes, who do you trust?
The guy that's a journalist went to brainwashing university, but you have to believe in one way or another and see the other side as the enemy.
So it's not really journalism.
It's journalism against the enemy.
And then the citizen journalist is not a professional journalist.
They're just kind of sitting there searching, Googling, rocking, ChatGPT and whatever they're doing.
And like, I came up with this.
So you're like, whoa, that was kind of interesting.
I didn't know about that.
Good find.
Tell me more.
And you're kind of seeing some of these guys that are coming up.
The Carols of the World.
You're looking, wow, I never know about that.
Rob, what is this, by the way, that you got small click within the CIA who was responsible?
That's the Gary Underhill thing that we showed.
Do you have anything else outside of that to go through?
What's this one here, Rob?
This video is of, this is back in 68 or 69.
Is this the LBJ video?
Yes.
Billy Sol Estes talking with Clifton C. Carter about the administration, LBJ's administration.
Technically be JFK's administration.
LBJ was the vice president, but them hiring a guy named Mac Wallace to kill JFK.
Let's hear this.
Lyndon should have never issued that order to Mike.
But we've had our differences, and I'm the true blue to Lyndon as I've always been and tried to carry out every order that he'd ever given me.
But this is one I'll probably never be able to forget.
And the times that we've had in Texas and the embarrassment that Lyndon has got from Kennedy, I guess there wasn't anything else to do but what he did.
Well, you know, Lyndon could have really hit me if he would.
Well, Lyndon's the kind of person that doesn't want to help anyone.
He's, you know, he's all for Lyndon, and that's the way it's pretty much always been.
Well, they had me back up on that Henry Marshall killing, and they just kind of blackmailed me to keep my mouth shut.
If I hadn't had a bunch of tapes that I'd played after he got killed, you know, 17 got killed in this situation very mysteriously.
How long has this been published?
I saw this a few months ago.
I don't know how long it's been out.
I'm taking a look now to see when it was actually recorded.
I'd have to dig in a little bit deeper to give you an honest answer.
When you see this, PBD, what do you make you feel?
Well, listen, I've read a little too much on Lyndon Johnson.
I've never been a fan.
Lyndon Johnson to me is one of those guys that they make it to the top by taking everybody else down.
Now they make it to the top to outdoing everybody else that's going to the top.
This guy was envious of Kennedy.
Kennedy was getting all the love, the accolades, the attention.
And, you know, you got to be careful with these ambitious, lazy people who are envious and they secretly stand behind you and they watch you and they act like they're a friend when they're looking at you behind closed doors.
They cannot wait to see you fall.
And that's Lyndon Johnson, man.
So I'm not surprised that this was his way of becoming a president.
I'm not surprised.
He was way more ambitious.
John F. Kennedy never wanted to be a president.
His father wanted one of his boys to be president.
John F. Kennedy just wanted to have fun.
It was just a guy that was having fun.
His oldest brother dies in his early 20s in a plane crash and war.
And his name is Joseph Kennedy Jr.
He's supposed to be the president.
He's the real guy.
That's the alpha guy.
John F. Kennedy had back issues, bone issues, health issues.
He did not want to do this stuff.
And then eventually he's like, hey, you got to run.
Is that true that he didn't want to do it?
John F. Kennedy Jr. never wanted to be president.
Yep.
JFK, not Jr. Jr.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
John F. Kennedy never wanted to be president.
He was like next in line.
It was almost like Assad in a weird way because he had an older brother that died.
Yeah, that was my understanding.
That was the first guy.
That Joseph wanted his firstborn, I guess, to be.
And then there's a death, I guess, in war.
And then, yeah, but I didn't know that he had no interest in it.
That's really interesting.
Well, what does that sound, by the way?
I don't know.
You're not the static.
Okay.
So John, so he, the dad would talk about when they were growing up, who's going to be the president first.
Is it you, Adam?
Who's going to be the president first?
And so it was always Joseph.
And when the oldest son died, he was depressed, devastated, didn't want to be around people.
He was a mess.
And then John F. Kennedy eventually goes and does it.
So Lyndon, to me, yeah, if you were to tell me, if stories come out that Lyndon Johnson was behind this whole thing, I would easily believe it.
Roger Stone's book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, bro, they should have sued him back then when he wrote it.
The family or whatever, it pretty much points to this guy and he was involved with every single aspect of it, period.
And I love what you say.
It's just accountability, bro.
Whoever was, even if, and you guys made a great point because I never thought of it like that.
The actual, I'm indicting the whole thing.
Okay, I get it.
It's a small faction.
But whoever it was, we just want answers, just like the Jeffrey Epstein shit.
I want to be able to go, that son of a bitch did it.
And then they're alive.
We could put them in jail.
That's a whole different thing.
But I love accountability.
No, no, I hear we all want that 100%.
And I get your like knee-jerk reaction to be like, hey, shut the whole thing down.
I think, so in New York, there's this jail called Rikers Island.
If you heard of Rikers, obviously.
And there was some like pretty horrible treatment of inmates there.
And there was this move to like get the entire jail shut down.
And it's like, it's not the jail's fault.
The jail is just a building.
You know what I mean?
It's just a building with cells.
Like the jail didn't do anything wrong, but obviously there was horrible treatment.
So you could replace, fire, change up the people that work there, the people in charge.
And I think that'd be a similar situation because what's going to happen is you destroy the jail.
They're going to build another jail.
So if you destroy the CIA, they're going to build another organization and the same thing is going to happen.
So you could definitely hold whoever's in charge at the time accountable for even letting that rogue faction do it if that's what it was.
But the fact that we're still talking about it feels like we're nowhere closer to finding out exactly what happened.
I think we're heading in the right direction.
You think we will in our lifetime?
I think we will.
I think we're heading in the right direction.
I think there's going to be some people that even after with all the evidence, okay, there's still going to be some people that are like, I don't know about that.
I think this, but I think the score is going to go from whatever it is right now, 63%, 64% of the fact that there was a second shoot or whatever.
There's percentages on this.
I think that's going to go to 85, 90%.
It's never going to go to 100% because some people just don't want to believe it.
That's the thing.
And then once you've committed your life to something, it's what do they say with people with cults?
Like when the cults get exposed, they get even more devout.
Yeah.
It's a weird thing that happens, but like it's because you're so shameful.
You're so embarrassed that you could believe something so stupid so that once it gets exposed, you actually double down.
So it's a that's kind of what's going on with the Democratic Party today, though, right?
With what?
Great pivot.
Right?
That's what's going on with the Democratic Party today.
I think you're talking about like their lack of ability to kind of understand where kind of mainstream America's sentiments are.
The only guy that's saying we screwed up with transgender is Newsome.
The only guy that's president.
He wants to be realized.
He's got to get to the center, but everybody else likes, no, trans this, and you know, we still believe in this, and we, you know, that is not fair.
And you better call him, you know, a woman because she is a woman.
No, he's a man.
No, and there's the ruckus on what was it, House, Congress, Rob.
The one congressman got up and speaks and they were upset because somebody called him sir.
You know which one I'm talking about, Rob?
Yeah, this album.
Yeah, I mean, they still don't want to give that up.
That's a dude, right?
That's a dude.
Which one?
Which one?
The senator?
There's a congressman that's trans?
Is that what you're saying?
Of course there is.
Go for it.
I recognize the representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.
Mr. McBride.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Ranking Member Keating, also wonderful.
Mr. Chairman.
Can you repeat your introduction again, please?
Yes, it's a we have set the standard on the floor of the House, and I'm simply what is that standard, Mr. Chairman?
Would you repeat what you just said?
You introduced a duly elected representative from the United States of America, please.
I will.
The representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.
Boom.
Mr. Chairman, you are out of order.
Okay.
Mr. Chairman, have you no decency?
I mean, which one is Mr. McBride?
All the way on the right.
Right here.
Can you pull up the picture?
I'll see you.
At least it looks like.
So she's a trans woman, right?
So like, this is the thing that, this is the thing that actually I think is where everybody loses.
If she wants to be, if she wants to identify as like a woman and you want to call her, and that's what she wants you to call her, just fucking call her a woman.
It's not.
That's not going to happen.
Okay, okay.
Let me make the whole argument.
Please make the argument.
Okay.
I'm so curious what this is.
Let's give it to her.
I don't think the average person thinks that much about trans, especially the average conservative person.
What I think the frustration was, and now they shouldn't have that frustration because now they're in power.
But I think the frustration was for years, they felt like there was a lot of lack of, I think, common sense is the rhetoric that you're seeing now from the right, that there was a lack of common sense with like Democrat ideology and the things they were pushing through.
And trans is just the highest rung of the ladder.
So it would start at something like this.
And this is what a lot of my friends were hearing.
It's like, we don't call people Latinos or Latinos.
We call them Latinx.
And then you would go to your friends and you'd be like, what do you like?
Yo, do y'all want to be called Latinx?
And they'd be like, I don't even know what the fuck that is.
Right.
And then you'd go back to your work and be like, yeah, I spoke to some of my Spanish friends that they don't even know what Latinx is.
And then the reaction is, how dare you?
What are you, some bigot that's racist?
Stop being so insensitive.
So immediately you get taken back.
You go, okay, wow.
I mean, I was just asking questions.
I spoke to my Spanish friends.
They said that they don't even want to be called that.
But all right, this kind of feels weird, but I'm not going to push back.
Then you find out that like a drag queen is teaching English at your school or something like that, which I know is blown out of proportion, but still you hear a story about it and you're like, you just go into school.
You're like, hey, just out of curiosity, why is there like a drag queen like teaching the kindergartners how to read?
What is that about?
How dare you?
What are you, some bigot?
But they're a performer.
We have performers come in there all the time.
We're like, okay, I'm just asking a question.
You keep calling me a bigot.
And the feeling, the emotional feeling for like the parent or the person in that situation is, hey, this doesn't really make sense.
And everybody's kind of pretending.
And then the final rung of that ladder is trans women competing in women's sports, right?
And I think that nobody, not that many people are actually really caring about trans people or thinking about them every single day, but it's like it's the argument that is infallible.
You present it to your friend that is like, you know, staunchly Democratic.
You present it to your congressman.
You're like, hey, do you think this is unfair?
You made me feel like a bigot with the Latinx thing.
You made me feel weird about the drag queen thing, but this thing, this is one plus one equals two.
And if you refute that, it's actually very comforting for the conservative because you go, oh, this whole time I was being gaslit into thinking I was the crazy person when in reality, you're not operating on like an honest playing field.
You're caught up in the ideology.
So I think that's, I think that's really what it is.
So I don't care if some trans person wants me to call them a woman, like I'm going to call you a woman.
I'm not going to like put my fucking foot down about it.
But if I told you right now, call me daddy.
Would you call me daddy?
No.
Why not?
Well, because call me daddy.
You're not my dad, but you're not my dad.
But I want you to call me daddy.
I view myself as your daddy.
Well, but you're not my dad.
But you're, you're right.
She's not a man.
But if you want me to be not a woman, but if you wanted me to call you son, I would call you son.
Yeah, I get what you're doing.
You're having fun with it, right?
No, I'm not.
It doesn't affect me at all.
Calling me daddy insults my dad.
Yeah, but calling you ma'am insults my intelligence.
Insults science.
It insults facts.
It insults, you know, an actual, you were born a man.
You want me to call you a woman because it hurts your feelings?
So this is where I think about, like, and obviously I don't think there's ever going to be like a version of us like getting some understanding of this, but like, I think the greater concern is this becoming a social trend and there being like young, influential kids that start making decisions about their body that are irreversible.
And as a parent, I obviously have a concern about that, right?
Because you start taking these hormones, you start lopping shit off your body, you're not going to get that back.
Like this is like a really dangerous potentially situation.
But if you ask me if there are 8 billion people on the planet, right?
8 billion people on the planet.
And I see a person born with a foot coming out of their head on Instagram every other fucking day.
Weird shit happens.
To me, the weirdest shit, body dysmorphia or whatever it is, or gender dysmorphia.
To me, that's not like unbelievable if 8 billion people on the planet got their kids born with fucking cancer.
Like there are crazy things that happen in our existence.
And that's not even close to one of the craziest.
This is a different story.
This is a different story because this is not something that happens naturally.
This is something that happens 5, 10, 15, 20 years into your life where you want to play dress up.
How many days a year is Halloween?
One day a year.
But you want to play Halloween and dress up every single day.
And you want me to pretend that you're a leprechaun or a ghost or a donkey every single day.
We have a disagreement.
I think when it comes to like leprechaun or doast or daddy or any of those things, I think that we're on the same page.
It makes me call him daddy every single day.
It's fine.
I do it.
I get it.
Look, go ahead, Andrew.
I get emails from daddy.
I guess what I'm saying is like where this, this is like a, this is like a perfect example of like where the conversation gets lost and both sides kind of can't unify.
Like another example is even like Doge.
Like I don't think that there's any American that is for waste, bloat, and like overspending.
Like I don't think any American is like, I believe in that outside the ones profiting from it.
Right.
But because the issue has become so like antagonistic, now you got people lighting up fucking Tesla dealerships.
And it's like, wait, this is supposed to be a bipartisan supported issue.
Like we should come together on this and go, hey, let's find the right way to do it.
I mean, maybe doing it with the hatchet or whatever, you know, Elon and Doge have been doing isn't the best way, but let's find a way to make sure that our government agencies are refined and lean, if you will.
I think all Americans can support that.
When we get into like the transit, there's a lot of emotional things that are going on here, which I get.
There's a lot of like religiosity that informs it also.
I get that.
But the core agreement, like I think it's more about like who is being hurt, right?
I don't want to see these girls compete against these people who are born as men.
I don't want to see that.
Whether some fucking barista wants to put on makeup and say her name is like Sally, I don't give a fuck.
Like I'm not in your life.
Stay out of mine.
That's the way I look about it.
When it becomes a social trend and I have to worry about these things with my with my kid and the school is told to affirm whatever gender they say.
Now you're in my life.
How old's your oldest?
My one.
I have one kid, 13 months old.
Okay.
So when the 13 becomes 13.
Yeah.
And conversations at night when you go home changes.
Of course.
Your level of tolerance for these things will change.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is where I think it's really important.
So the part for me, like, for example, the other day, this guy says, I don't give a shit.
Who cares about this auto pen, whether he signed it or not?
And the da-da-da-da-da.
And who cares about Fauci, whether he signed the partner or not?
Adam's saying this, right?
I said, okay.
So I said, Adam, the reason why you don't care is because you're an anomaly.
You don't live a, the average person doesn't live your life.
The average person has a car.
This guy's an Uber 24-7, right?
He lives a very different life.
Okay.
That's his choice.
He chooses to do it.
You know, everybody on the outside thinks we, you know, every day this guy's getting fired.
He's been here for God knows how many years now.
So that's not the case.
We get along.
But the point is, what happened during COVID to a lot of parents, they saw that you're like, because we all used to be like, dude, I don't give a shit.
I just told you guys a story before going live where I used to go and club and I'm like, I never gave a shit.
You do your thing.
I'm going to do my thing.
We're good.
We're totally fine, right?
I was hanging out with Frank Sinatra's son.
But that's a joke, folks.
It's a don't go and say Patrick this because that story's going to, he's going to call and say, that's not true.
I never hung out with that guy.
But the point is with you age, you get older, and you're like, whoa, I don't know.
You're a little, okay.
Maybe they have a point.
I don't know about that.
Cross the line.
Dude, you know what?
Here's what we're doing now moving forward.
Stay over there.
Yeah.
I'm not playing your card.
Because if the way caving works, caving comes in steps.
Before there's a high level of cave, there is three levels below it.
That's an easier cave.
Once you cave here, you're like, it's not a big deal.
Then you cave here.
I really don't want to.
Then listen, you already cave on the, okay.
And then you're like, dude, I am caved on things that I fully don't agree with.
That's what happened with a lot of voters.
Yeah.
A lot of voters got so caught up.
They're like, dude, I'm a John F. Kennedy Democrat.
What the hell is going on with this Democratic Party?
I guess I have to kind of vote this way, but I don't agree with this.
I don't agree with that.
Kind of got lost in translation.
So I don't know.
To me, I feel like it's a little bit too much of pushing the envelope to expect me to call you a man, expect me to call you a woman.
He just dressed up.
It's totally fine.
I'm going to call you Mr. McBride.
It's great to have you.
And he still has his testicle.
By the way, and I could see, Andrew, if it was, okay, you went for the gusto.
Like, by the way, I was at the mall this weekend.
No joke.
With him?
Well, I'm saying, I'm saying, no.
Because you said he saw his testicle.
No, no, I'm saying.
How do you know he still has his testicle?
How do you know what's going on?
I don't bet you any money.
Sarah McBride still has balls.
How do you know?
I know.
His voice is still.
I'm at the mall.
How does Vinny know what's going on between these guys?
This is real talk.
I told Rob, I had to call my mom because I was dying laughing.
I'm walking out of the mall.
I told Natalia.
And I just look out of the corner of my eye at this dark-skinned, like Latina Asian.
I was like, whoa, beautiful.
And he turns around and it's a dude.
Gotcha.
And I was like, ow, we had a moment.
They didn't hold you back is the real question.
We looked up in the car.
But listen, anyway, so I was like, so my thing is this, bro.
You know what it is?
Just the laziness of the white trans guys.
The white, white trans men are just lazy, bro.
If you're going to go for the gust, though, go for it.
Cut everything off, lob everything.
Because you know what the problem is, Andrew?
We're not saying it what it is.
This is a mental disorder.
Everybody, we're just going all the way to the finish line.
Call me what I want.
And that's it.
The problem is, bro, they're pretending.
You can pretend to be what you want.
This is a free country.
But to force somebody to agree with your reality is a problem we get because think about it.
If we didn't nip this in the bud as a country, of course it would get rampant.
Are we the gayest we've ever been in the country right now, 2025?
100%.
One out of four high school kids identifies as LGBTQQ, non-whatever the hell.
I can't.
I already just threw extra something.
No, no, I'm just saying there's so many letters.
There's so many things.
At what point do we have to just be like, nah, man, this is this is.
I'm going to hear Andrew's argument.
Let's see what he's going to say.
So, so I think that like one of the big concerns is obviously protecting your children, right?
And I think that both sides are actually trying to protect children.
I think when parents, and you're rightfully concerned, I'm rightfully concerned, is that I wouldn't have control of the ability to protect my child, right?
If the school goes, hey, we don't need to ask your parents for you to take hormones.
I start going, wait a minute, hold on.
That's my child.
I want to make the decisions that I think are best for them.
And you're getting in the way of that.
And I agree with you.
That knee-jerk reaction that any parent, like I definitely would feel as a parent, is like, whoa, what the fuck is going on here?
Why are you doing stuff with my kid without allowing me?
If my kid wants to go to the museum, I got to sign some paperwork so they can go, but not so they can, you know, grow tits.
Like it seems obviously like there's this like real emotional reaction that is, you want to protect your child.
Now, if I'm going to have empathy for the other side, it's somebody who went through that brutal process in their life.
And they go, I want to protect a child that might be trans from the horrors that I experienced growing up with people not understanding what this is.
I think a lot of these people are well-intentioned, but they have to understand, and maybe one day they'll have kids and they'll get it, how important it is to us to protect our children.
And anytime you make me feel even slightly that you could be putting ideas in my kids' head that I don't like or even removing my autonomy to protect my child, I'm going to respond with a force that you've never seen before in your entire life.
And I'm going to be incredibly blunt about it.
And I don't care how it makes you feel.
When it comes to protecting my child, it doesn't matter how it makes you feel.
So you're going to get the harshest, most coarse arguments out of me unless you meet me where I am emotionally.
Like I think anybody that's trying to, for lack of a matter, like push trans agenda, has to understand what parents might feel before they're putting any sort of legislation out there.
And I don't think, I think there's actually a lack of empathy for the parents.
There's a lot for the kids.
I think they're actually coming from this place of like, I want to protect these kids.
They believe that's their version of protection, but not enough for the parents.
I saw a tweet the other day that said, I feel sorry for the parents if a kid who they raise well later on transitions and becomes transgender.
Okay.
If the kid, you feel sorry for the kids.
You raise them well, and then later on they're an adult, 24 years old, they transition and become transgender.
He says, but I feel sorry for the kid when they transition when they're a teenager and I blame the parent.
So to me, a part of what happened is in Hollywood, you're looking at all these guys and their kids are trans and it's like a competition.
Minus two, minus two, me too, me too, me too.
A lot of them.
So that's the pure pressure of being accepted.
Then on the other side, when you're talking about empathy, I feel empathy for kids all the flipping time when I meet them because the kid is not yet fully developed.
I'm like, dude, I truly feel bad for this kid.
But he's not coming to, we're not raising him.
He's going to go to those parents' house.
And if you say something, the parents, you know, you're now in that.
So you sympathize with the kid.
You try to give some feedback to the parents if there's a relationship there.
Typically, there's not.
Suddenly like, dude, I'm assed out.
I really want to find a way to do something with this.
I feel bad for the kid.
And then on the other side, when you're like a parent comes up and a father came up to me, one of our neighbors, he says, hey, my son just told me this.
And we're at dinner or Casa D'Angelo, Jennifer's sitting right next to me.
The man is crying.
He's in his mid-50s.
He's like, what do I do?
And then I feel for him because he's not doing it.
But the part about this that's the black and white, not the gray area, we should be compassionate.
We should have empathy, even for this guy, Namic Bride.
We should have empathy for him.
What caused him to get here?
What happened with his upbringing with his parents?
What happened?
I don't know.
I feel bad.
Like even when the Chelsea Handler thing was going on and, you know, she's talking shit to Adam Adams, talking shit to Chelsea, the lifestyle she lives.
And then you go and look it up, bro.
She was nine years old.
Her lover or life was her older brother, 22 years old.
He decides to go camping.
He's climbing a mountain or whatever it is.
He falls and he dies, never comes home.
Dad was, I believe, a car dealership salesman.
And she is devastated.
The house is devastated.
She sees the most powerful man in her house, her father, not knowing how to handle it.
Yeah, of course she's not going to want to have any kind of commitment.
You know, that kind of pain?
These are the things we're not aware of.
You should have compassion.
You should have empathy.
That's beautiful empathy.
Yeah, it's true empathy.
You feel bad for it, right?
But at the same time, that still doesn't justify me having to call you a man, my opinion.
Or what about the empathy towards someone in your position?
Like, what would you want them to understand?
What would you want someone operating in good faith?
They think what they're trying to do is they're like, you know, I believe in trans.
I want to make sure that kids are able to do this if they do feel comfortable.
How would you like them to have empathy for you?
What do they not understand about you as a parent?
Like, these are the discussions I think a lot of times we don't have because there's this like dunk on culture.
Right.
So like, what is it you'd like someone in good faith?
They're not a psychopath.
They're someone who's really trying to make the best decision.
Okay.
So you said something earlier.
You said, I think both sides care about kids.
I don't know.
I think the percentage would be more people on the right care for kids than those on the left.
Okay.
Why?
Because more people on the right have kids than those on the left.
Unless the poor, where it's kind of like because of the benefits that you have that you're paying that.
That's a different structure I'm talking about.
You know, when you break that down and then you come to people, you know, you read these marriage books, how to have a great marriage, written by a person with six divorces.
Because I have experience.
Hey, this is how you should raise your kids.
How many kids do you have?
I don't have any kids, but this is how you should raise them.
I'm sorry, buddy.
Like me giving you advice on how to be a comedian.
Do you know how pathetic that is for me to give you advice on how to be a comedian?
Do you realize how insane that is for me to tell you, you know what, Andrew?
That roast you did on Tom Brady, I think you missed the mark, bro.
We do this with geopolitics.
Yeah, no, I get that.
But this is what we do all the time.
No, but that's opinion.
But for me to tell you from a place of an expert to say, here's what you should have done, and we shoot all over you, right?
That's a different story.
But in this part, the people that tell others how to raise kids and you don't have them, stay out of the way.
Yeah.
The people that like.
Why, though?
Why?
The reason why you're special, I don't just say everybody has to go watch it.
The reason why your special was so awesome is because couples go through that and they're embarrassed to talk about it publicly.
And you put it out there.
You're like, are you, it is so embarrassing that you almost made everybody feel like, dude, it's okay.
Yeah.
It's okay.
Yeah, that was one of those things.
You humanized yourself and indirectly you unified marriages.
You probably saved a lot of marriages with a special of yours in a craziest way.
Why, though?
Because you have moral authority.
Because you went through it.
So I'm like, you know what?
I like that.
So to me, I have a problem with the LGBTQ community that's never had a kid to tell me how to raise it again and I should be doing this.
Knock it off.
Okay.
Go have a few kids.
See how hard it is to have a few kids.
Raise them.
And if you want to raise them on your values, go for it.
These are the values I want to raise them on.
And that's the problem.
Let me go real quick on this.
But I think the really important part is going, hey, you guys don't have kids.
So you don't understand.
Well, maybe some of them do, but like you don't understand the feelings that I'm having right now where I want to protect my child.
Right.
And I think that that conversation is very important.
Not whether who's right or who's wrong, but them understanding where you are emotionally.
Because we're emotional beings.
There's that great Jonathan Haidt book, The Righteous Mind.
I don't know if you guys have read it, right?
Like we react emotionally and then we retrofit justifications onto our emotions.
So them understanding that, like somebody pushing legislation through that, like you don't need to ask a parent permission to start hormones for a kid, right?
Tell me that wouldn't terrify every parent.
Why are they not having a conversation with parents, at least the parents in the PTA, to be like, how do you guys feel about this?
And I understand your concern about social contagion.
When you hear about all these like people in Hollywood who have kids and the percentage of their kids that are trans seems to be way more, that's very concerning as a parent.
So like these conversations I think would be the most beneficial.
Can I give you the next part?
Yeah.
Here's the next part.
Do you get what I'm saying?
For sure, bro.
By the way, Jonathan Heida also wrote another book called The Anxious Generation.
It's a motherfucker.
Yeah, this is the same guy.
Yeah, phenomenal guy.
He's fair.
He's a liberal, but he's very fair.
And I like the words.
He is a liberal, but he's very fair.
Most liberals can't be.
But you know what word you use?
You know what was the word you used when I asked me the question?
What was the word?
How do I feel?
Yeah.
Right?
Okay.
I get the feeling part, but there's a part of it that we're feeling's out the window when it's reason based on facts.
When we get there, I don't care how I feel.
For example, Andrew Tate, we've had him on three times.
Every time we have him on, you know what people say?
What's that?
I can't believe you have a former, you know, Peter girls, rape.
Have you seen these videos?
I'm like, yeah, I've seen the videos.
Personally, I'd like to see him be innocent.
I'd like the charges to be dropped personally because of the time I've spent with him.
And he reminds me of a guy in the army that we hung out with and we got along.
Personally.
But let me tell you, if the court proves and the stuff is there and it's all proven, then guess what?
I can't debate the facts.
Those are the facts.
If that's conclusive, right?
And it's shown.
So this is where there is the feelings, the relationship.
My son, I go to school.
I don't want my son to be the one.
Hey, he hit the other kid.
Or he said this.
You go and you're like, my son.
And then you're like, show me the facts.
Well, here's the tape.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, he did.
There's a facts.
I can't.
So you're a dude.
That's a fact.
I know it hurts your feelings, but you're a guy.
I think that you said something important there about Tate.
Like, we should all hope that he's innocent.
Nobody should be hoping that he's a pedophile.
Because if you're hurting or human traffickers.
Yeah, like, because if you're harming that, think about that, right?
A lot of people are, though.
Yeah, but think about what that means.
That means you feel a certain way towards someone and you would, for that feeling to be validated, you would rather a kid be raped or a woman be abused and women be sex trafficked, right?
So I think that's something where we got to pause and go, we hope that that's not the case.
I hope that no girl was raped on Epstein's Island.
I hope that that is probably not the case, but I don't want that to have happened.
You're saying this is the world that we should live in, right?
Well, it's trial by social media, trial by media versus an actual trial because such people end up proving him guilty.
But they end up for your own satisfaction.
My point is, and we don't want children to be tools for our own satisfaction.
We don't want girls that are sex trafficked to be tools for our own emotional validation.
That's a dangerous place to be in.
I mean, I think like, I think the Tate thing is like very simple.
It's like, has he been proven guilty?
No.
Okay.
Are they still trying him?
Sure.
He's an American citizen.
There was this conversation about not letting back here.
Like, American citizens get to come back to America.
They're protected no matter where the fuck they go.
And I believe in free speech, you can say whatever you want.
That being said, if you shit on America, I'm a patriot.
I love America.
So if you shit on America and then when the going gets rough, you come crawling back, you're going to get made fun of.
It's very simple.
If you shit on America and then it gets tough over there and then you come crawling back, not because Trump got elected, because he was elected, but last time he didn't come back.
So just acknowledge that it got tough out there and that the West is the best and that America is the greatest country in history.
And then we got nothing to worry about.
Then we're good.
But because it's the reality.
It's like he talked all about the Matrix, but he's literally the guy from the Matrix.
Do you remember the guy who like went?
No, the dude who went into, he like, he decided to take the pill and then he saw how shitty it is.
He's eating oatmeal.
Yeah, they got the steak.
The guy that ate the standard.
And then he's like, no, I want the other pill.
That's what he did.
He was in the Matrix in Romania eating oatmeal.
And he was like, fuck that.
I want a steak in America.
He came back.
The irony is he actually is the person he's describing in the Matrix, but just very differently.
You're not Neo.
You're the guy that gave up on it.
Good point.
You came back to the Matrix.
Now he's back.
And you got to live with that decision.
And that's fine.
And we'll accept you because we're Americans, but we're a proud people.
Don't go shitting on us.
And then when you need us, come back.
Because that's basically like the same energy Britney Griner got, they should get.
Well, what's even worse.
Like, it's the same shit.
What is this, Rob, by the way?
Yeah, because I know you want to move on, but I just want to make a point.
So this is Timothy McBride.
We don't have to see the video, but this is him sitting in front of kids, pretending to be a woman, reading a book, telling them it's okay to be transgender.
So going to your guys' points, because you guys have kids.
That's the problem with this group, what he's doing.
Yeah, he's trust me.
100%.
This is 48 seconds.
Played real quick.
Let me just see what he says.
She went with her family to the doctor, and the doctor said that she should, she's a girl, and everyone should see her and treat her like a girl, right?
Which is to say that they should call her Jazz and they should treat her with respect and be nice to her.
But can I ask you one more question?
So that journey that she had from people thinking she was a boy and the fact that Jazz knew she was a girl.
You have no right to.
And this was exactly why I said this.
Are you ready for this, Andrew?
These people, and again, hearts, I feel bad for them.
They can't have children and they can't multiply.
So they want to come after your children because that's how they multiply.
I'm telling you guys.
And you made a great point, Pat.
Why don't we take a step back, Andrew, and like find out, like you guys said, have compassion.
It's a brain disorder.
Can we, because everybody just wants to go, call me this, do this, chop it off, go for the kids.
Time out.
Take a step back.
What is going on in here?
Could we have a national psychiatry, transgender, sit them down and talk to these people and find out so that it doesn't keep happening for people?
But that's how they multiply.
They're sitting, your boy Timmy is sitting in a class saying, be like me.
It's okay.
Look at how young these kids are.
They're not impressionable, these kids.
I think Democrats just need to have like a conversation with parents, show that video and then just have parents honestly tell them how it makes them feel.
I think if you have honest interactions with people, you'll see how they react emotionally.
And I think that they'll maybe create policy or change their positions based on that.
They learned it based on this last election, I think.
I think a lot of people chalk up this election to things that it maybe really wasn't.
I think it's culture shift.
You know, you could say whatever it is, I think, but I think it's just culture shift.
I think that there is like a rejectionist agenda.
I think in the same way that, you know, when Trump lost, people were voting against Trump.
I think with this election, people were voting against the administration.
Not everybody was like this diehard Trump.
I love this guy, MAGA, forever.
I think there are a lot of people who are like, I don't like what's happening.
And they being the Kamala or the Biden administration are saying we're going to continue doing the same thing.
Well, because it's called equilibrium.
Every four to eight years, we have a culture war in this country and we shift.
We always have a culture war.
Oh, of course.
And clearly Trump won the culture war.
But what I think is so amazing about this conversation here is you're not going to get this on mainstream media.
What I love about Pat and even what I love about Schultz is, hold on, but let's go there.
Hold on, no, no, no.
Go even deeper.
Hold on.
Go even deeper.
And when you go deeper and deeper and deeper, I know you find it.
I know, Pat.
I've seen you with your children.
Like, I understand who you are as a man.
And I think that people need to realize like how you become very primal when it comes to your children.
And the reactions you're going to get when you make me feel like my child is going to be manipulated in some way and he could potentially be harmed are primal reactions.
And that's not often like the best discourse.
Like you're getting the most raw version of me.
Are you going to do something to my child?
You start going, well, I'm going to kill you.
Like that's, that's how you feel.
Like the idea of like, you have this conversation before you have kids all the time.
Like, am I capable of like killing somebody?
I don't know.
You have a kid and it's like, kill everybody in this room.
It's the easiest thing in the world, right?
So I think it'd be very important with, especially with these type of, these type of topics, like regardless of how you feel, you could be the most pro, you could be the most anti.
You got to understand how parents feel and how you're making them feel.
And if you don't, you lose every election for the next hundred years if you don't look into how you're making parents feel.
You know, on one hand, this conversation, you're talking about feelings and hey, be respectful and have empathy.
And I get that.
But also juxtapose that with, no, there's actually the truth and there's justice and there's facts.
People don't care about facts.
And there's reality.
People don't care about facts.
No, But no, no, but you should.
Yeah, yeah, we should do a lot of things, but we don't.
I shouldn't eat bread every meal.
You know what I mean?
But like, hold on, Schultz, having a low-carb lifestyle.
Ben Schultz is a little bit different than a, Ben Shapiro says, boy, facts don't care about your feelings.
True.
He couldn't be more wrong.
Feelings don't care about your facts.
What is faith?
Is faith a fact?
Faith is a feeling.
The most important thing in you.
It's a belief.
Believing in something you have not yet seen.
To me, that's a feeling.
It's a feeling.
Sure, it's not a fact.
But to me, the most important part of your constitution as a human being is a feeling.
It is not a fact.
And human beings are feeling-based people.
That's why myths move us so much more.
There's no movie that's just about data and facts.
We're like, I don't give a fuck about that shit.
But you put on some movie that matters to me.
And I'm like, wow, this is incredible because it evokes feelings.
You're right.
But at the same time, if I want to get reassurance, I seek facts.
Yes.
You know, facts tell story sell.
I want to know the facts.
Yes.
And then based on my life experiences, I'm probably not going to like some of the facts because it's going to contradict what I thought it was true for 46 years.
Or I'm going to sit down and be like, see, see, see?
But it's either validation or like, oh, shit, I was wrong.
Well, you're going to go through one of those because the truth passes through three stages.
You know, say that sometimes the truth hurts.
And I know you want to kind of wrap up here, but the truth passes through three stages.
First, you're ridiculed.
Second, you're violently opposed.
And then it's accepted as being self-evident.
It's exactly what's going on with this trans thing.
It's like, no, let's just be nice to them.
Let's help them.
It's like, that's a dude who's dressing up as a woman.
And we want to pretend.
Let's transition to a normal story.
Transition?
Do you want a trans?
Guys, transition into a normal story.
Don Lemon says women at CNN sexually harass him.
I love this.
Including one who touched his nipples.
I love this.
Okay, Rob, play this shit.
Play this shit.
Go for it.
Go ahead.
I would.
I've been harassed by women and men in the work.
And some things are not even.
It's ridiculous.
Now, look.
Tell us.
I'm very interested.
There are some things that.
No, no, no.
I'm interested in this.
There are some things that are really egregious, right?
And that, but not everything is Harvey Weinstein level.
And so that's rape.
And then some of the, right, that's a whole different story.
I'm not talking about that.
And I'm not saying it makes it right.
But I remember when I was in Atlanta and was in the cafeteria commissary, whatever.
At CNN.
CNN.
And this woman, young lady, tweaked my nipples and said, oh, it's cold in here.
And I said, okay, you realize if I did that, they'd be walking me out the door right now.
But I didn't care to go to HR.
I didn't say anything because I was just like, it's a double standard.
And also, but I never told this story as well.
Someone who I worked with also harassed me at CNN.
And I didn't, I never went to management.
First of all, I was a man or a woman.
A woman.
And she knew I was gay.
And it was just bizarre.
She was going through a divorce.
It was just weird.
And I never went to management.
First of all, I thought like, okay, they may find a way to get rid of me because if I tell this story, I don't know if they're going to believe me or not.
But then she's so mean to me after that.
I was like, I should have told the story.
But yeah, I've been harassed by men and women.
But when, like, what constituted this harassment?
Like, like, what it physically, like in the office, like come in and twirl for me, John.
It wasn't a twirl for me, but it was not, it was not in the office.
You can stop it at this point.
It's all such a freaking like, okay, hang on.
What do you think?
Tom?
Andrew, what do you think?
That's rape.
That's rape.
He was getting assaulted.
Like, I love this.
Men need to talk more about this.
Think about it.
He's a gay guy.
The idea of a woman touching his nipples is repulsive.
You're a straight guy.
Imagine a gay guy coming up to you, rubbing your nipples.
You'd be like, yo, what the fuck is going on here?
That's sexual assault.
That is sexual assault.
And that woman should be put in jail for years.
I think she should be put in jail for we should find out who that vicious woman is that's raping people at CNN.
I love this.
I think more men need to speak out at the sexual assault that we experience every day.
No one is going to listen.
No one going to care.
No one gives a shit if a man.
There's three stages of truth.
Okay.
Nobody's going to.
Hold on, Vinny.
Nobody's going to believe that.
At first, you're ridiculed.
Who gives a shit if you're gay?
And that is the truth.
Let me tell you, because you know this has happened to you.
Remember Monday night, Tuesday night, we were at the cigar lounge.
That's my buddy Mikey.
Put a cigar right in your ass.
Nobody did anything.
Nobody gave a shit.
Nobody gave a shit.
That night I go to dinner.
Some pop stars.
You were walking funny.
I saw that.
That's true.
Some pop star from the ball.
The cigar was lit.
Some pop star from the 80s is sitting at our table at dinner with a bunch of group friends.
She's like, who are you?
Oh, my God.
Starts grabbing my chest.
Whoa.
Touching me.
And I was like, I'll take your old ass in the back room and bang you right now.
Joking with her.
But you're still.
But if a man, of course, if a man was sitting down and a woman's grabbing her, the point is the crowd is laughing because she's touching me and feeling me.
And we're joking around.
You know that's not going to happen if it's the other way around.
Here's another example: your 16-year-old son bangs his 10th grade teacher.
15-year-old teacher.
Yo, you're the man, bro.
Teachers are always hot.
The 10th grade girl that has sex with a teacher.
That guy's going to jail.
It's completely double standard.
What about?
And by the way, no one gives a shit.
What about this?
That's the way it is.
10th grade.
This really pissed off Adam.
Yeah, yeah.
You're really upset.
What did that girl do?
Samantha Fox.
Was that Samantha Fox?
I don't know.
Wow.
But let's pretend that touch me.
Touch me now.
It was who was it?
I'm not going to put her out there because she'll get arrested because it was one man army against statutory letters and Schultz.
You know this as being a celebrity.
I've seen girls throwing panties on stage.
Women run up to you and try to talk to you all the time.
You're not calling the cops because a girl wants to get close to you.
Women will do this.
You know what happens to you.
Yeah, but the reason, I mean, like, the real reason is because you could defend yourself.
Like, that's why we take it more serious when a guy does it to a girl than when a girl does it to a guy.
Because you could take that little 80s pop star and you could just throw her over a table.
Like, it's not a big deal.
So you could tell yourself.
Is this 80s pop star boy George?
Yeah, who was if it was Boy George?
That's a problem.
That's a problem.
He's a big guy.
He could fuck this shit out of you.
It was a woman.
There's nothing you could do about that.
I want to really turn my eye on you.
I want to report it.
Sorry, when I walked in today, Natalia and Kelly both hugged me, kind of grabbed on the butt, and kissed me.
Kelly kissed me three times.
Wow.
That's fucking good.
Vinny, no, because no one cares.
They're out there.
They're sexual harassment.
No one cares about men.
What's wrong with men?
What do you think about this, Tom?
What do you think about this?
Let's get away from this.
Tom can wait to get a sexually harassed.
Tom hasn't busted a nut since Clinton was in office.
Jesus.
Tom.
Tom needs touching.
We need to get that pop star in here.
We need to get that.
Sally Bush.
I can't get it.
I'm not going to let you do my guy Tom like this.
Everything.
Tom gets harassed.
Tom's been shaving that goatee every morning, hoping a girl would sit on it.
And it hasn't happened since Reagan was in office.
Okay?
Just went from Clinton.
Come on, Tom.
Tom, we need to get some stars.
He gets hopeless.
Let's see what Tom's going to say.
It was Bush Sr.
Okay.
Now then, let's get to this.
What do you think about it?
What do you think about somebody touching your nipples, Tom?
Like this, Tom, tell us.
This girl comes up and touches your nipples.
Well, you know, so I'll tell you.
You know, they're already just thinking about it.
He can't control himself.
16 years old.
Yeah.
English teacher in high school.
Yeah.
You know, she was a divorce woman.
Yeah, she was divorced.
Divorce woman teaching.
Yeah, it's in the book.
It's in the book.
And I, and, you know, I thinking back of it, you know, I think for about the first seven seconds, it was rape.
I'm you were molested.
You were molested by a Spanish girl and top top of this lucky.
No, and 45 minutes later, I get even a raped her.
So it's now, hold on.
Where are we going with this?
This is absurd.
Now, were you molested from the back?
Is this a guy?
You're joking, I'm assuming, Tom.
No, I'm completely joking because we've entered the realm of the absurd.
I'm trying to understand.
Did you have sex with your Spanish teacher?
No.
Did what happened?
Nothing.
This is the realm of the absurd, man.
He said it's in the book.
I thought that there was a deep personality.
By the way, while you're thinking about it, you really did that.
By the way, play this next clip.
Here's what I want you to say.
Tom's dick is rubbing the bottom of this table right now.
By the way, you've broken every single one of these.
By the way, Cordon Sims.
I'm sorry.
This is Charlie Kerr.
Charlie Kirk is talking to this guy.
Look what the guy says.
Some are saying this is Jussie Smollett.
They're saying they're Juicy Smallett may be related, but play the clip.
Play the clip, Rob.
I was hate crime five times in one night, okay?
Three of them by Trump supporters.
What happened to you?
I was just walking, and then I see this truck full of four white men pass by me.
MAGA apparel, everything, you know.
They drove past me and they were like, f you bend over.
So they said the N-word on campus to you.
Well, yes.
Okay, so what happened to them when you reported them?
I didn't report them.
Threatening to rape you is an intent of a crime.
Did you go to the police?
You file a police report?
You hire an attorney?
You sue the school?
Did you go to the civil rights office?
Do you file a civil rights complaint?
Did you do any of that?
Because you should.
Okay.
No, no, did you?
Tell me.
Yes or no?
I did not.
Why?
I'm not going to argue with you.
But you're coming in front of 2,000 people to say it.
Why did you not go to the university and say this happened?
Next instance, they threatened to rape me and then just drove off.
Hold on, so a bunch of Trump guys who are largely white heterosexual males then also threatened to rape you?
Different group of people, but yes.
I'm going to show you the university official, and why don't you go file out, file a Department Education complaint, and let's find these terrible people that did this to you.
Can we agree?
Okay.
Okay.
And by the way, we'll be able to look at security camera footage.
He says, I'll think about that.
Go back a couple seconds, plus plate.
Yeah, right there.
Find these terrible people that did this to you.
Can we agree?
Okay.
Okay.
And by the way, we'll be able to look at security camera footage and we'll see.
Okay, I'll think about that.
But you didn't do that.
Can I try to finish it?
You'll think about it.
Hold on.
Why wouldn't you want to do that immediately?
No, honestly, I think you're Jussie Smollett at this campus.
I think you're completely making this whole thing up.
I think you are a complete liar because I am now giving you an opportunity to report this at the high.
I will bring this to Linda McMahon, the head of the Department of Education, the federal government.
I will make sure these people are arrested by Kash Patel, the head of the FBI.
And you'll say, oh, I'll think about it because you're making this up.
You're doing this for a political purpose.
So will you, no, seriously, Kash Patel will get involved.
Yes?
It's a hate crime.
That's not acceptable.
Will you do this or not?
That's really cute, Charlie, but I'm trying to give you the opportunity to alleviate hate within this group of people who have a shit.
No, I do.
But hold on a second.
There's no hate.
There's just love of America here in this audience.
That's all that's here today, okay?
That's all that's here.
Look at his shirt, by the way.
I am my ancestor's wildest dream.
You damn right you are.
His ancestors are like, what the f is that guy?
You see why the truth matters, Schultz?
You see why we care about the truth and justice, Mr. Schultz?
What happened?
What happened?
Clearly nothing.
Oh, okay.
Clearly, he was on his way to maybe a gay gangbang.
But that's what we hope, right?
And then, well, of course.
We hope that that didn't happen.
But when someone gets up there and visibly lies and then gets caught in a line, he's like, well, let's get to the authorities involved.
He's like, well, let me, I don't know.
I thought it was cool that Charlie was like, listen, we have to protect against this.
This is a horrible thing that happens and that we'll take it up to the highest levels to make sure we protect it.
I like that.
Do you think that?
You think the kid was lying?
I think that was 100% truthful.
How could you think?
How could you?
Now, I'm not going to lie.
That motherfucker is cute, bro.
That is a cute ass.
Tom, admit it.
That is a cute ass dude right there.
Now, now, saying those horrible things you should never do.
But that motherfucker is cute.
Admit he's cute.
He's a cute man.
You know, he has his hair.
He's got a handsome man.
Let's ignore him on the podcast.
Oh, he's up there in New York.
Is somewhere and with respect and obviously everything consensual, but that is a handsome.
Like you would believe someone wanted to do that, but not obviously rape.
Don't do that.
But essentially, that guy doesn't have a hard time getting dick.
I don't know.
Hell no.
Why would you assume he's gay?
Why would you assume his gender?
It's not his gender.
That's right.
I didn't assume he, I did assume he was gay.
Yeah.
I want to say that.
Can we tell him one more time?
Just going off the accent.
What would make you assume that this person is a black gay man?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe just my visceral attraction to him.
Maybe your 41 years of life.
By the way, you don't have to play this clip.
I think what's powerful about this clip is what Charlie's doing.
We had dinner with a couple very interesting people last night in Miami.
I don't know why it wasn't, but something Boucher, some restaurant named Boucher.
Bobby Boucher.
Anyways, I don't know what it was.
What city were we in to Miami?
Cobby Boucher, the change in the world.
Coral Gables, yeah.
Somewhere we don't go often, but we were there last night having dinner.
Cafe Boucher.
And Charlie's name came up.
Dude, this guy is extremely formidable.
You know what's going to be interesting with Charlie?
What if Charlie throws a curveball to everybody and he runs in 2028?
He's old enough, right?
I think in 2028 he may be.
Bobby, where is he at?
I think he's 30 right now.
October 14th.
October 14th he's a Libra.
He should be.
Yes.
31 now.
He should.
I don't see.
28.
Can you can you is Charlie eligible?
He's 35.
Well, you know, that'd be great too because even Trump came out, Andrew.
I don't know if you saw it.
He was like, they were like, so is JD Vance?
Like, you're saying he's like, no, quick, too.
He's like, no, I'm not.
He's not.
He's not the heir.
He's not my number two.
I mean, that's pretty cool.
He didn't even hesitate at all.
He's eligible to run.
Everybody's making this thing.
35 at the inauguration.
Yeah.
That's still a rule.
Everybody's making this thing about like, who's really in charge, like Trump or Elon?
Like, I have no concern about Trump and Elon's relationship.
Everybody thinks that Trump is going to feel insecure about Elon.
Like, Elon is hitched to Trump for the rest of his life, whether he likes it or not.
He can't go back to the left, right?
Because he's the villain now.
He's also at the highest level of government he will ever be.
Like Elon's been dealing with local governments trying to get shit pushed through.
Like if you want to build something here, you got to deal with your local mayor.
He's been doing that for fucking decades.
Now he's at the right-hand side of the most powerful person in the world.
He cannot be president, unfortunately, like you, because you're not born here.
That's his, and I would love to change that.
But that is as powerful as he will ever be.
And he can't go anywhere else.
So Trump is like, I'm cool with this relationship.
He's going to be good.
And if he gets too crazy, I can be like, yo, back up, chill the fuck out.
And he has nowhere else to go.
So he will.
Vance is the one that's interesting to me.
And nobody talks about Vance.
No why.
That guy comes from broken home in Ohio, poverty, goes to Yale, navigates Yale.
That's tough.
You got all these like trust fund Nepo babies there.
They're politicking together.
They're building businesses together.
What does he have to offer them outside of pure IQ?
Right?
Yale.
Does he go to business school after that?
Or does he go to law degree or something like that?
I know right off the bat, he gets an internship or job with Peter Thiel.
Something like that.
Thiel picks him up, obviously smart.
And then he says some really disparaging things about Trump and then manages to convince him that he should be his running mate.
This is like, and he has this like little kind of like Midwestern accent.
So obviously coastal elites don't take him seriously.
Take that motherfucker serious.
Like if there is one person there, like obviously you saw the Zelensky moment.
He made a moment for himself, but he's even emotionally managing Trump in that moment.
He had the moment, but he's giving all the credit to Trump during the moment.
You treat him with respect.
This is his office, even though he's having his moment, right?
So if I'm Trump, I'm looking at Vance and I'm going, what does he want to do?
And is he going to eventually make a move?
Not make a move to get me out of here.
Obviously, you want Trump's endorsement, but how much attention is he going to want to get?
Because that guy, you do not treat lightly.
Pat was, you called it from the moment he hit the scene, Pat was like, I don't know.
Like, even the shadows over, you can't even see his eyes because his shadows, Pat was like, the memes.
I don't know about that guy.
Don't get me wrong.
With the debating and everything, we've grown like respect and like giving him props.
But Pat has been calling it for a while.
Pat said, I don't know about this guy.
Well, a long time ago.
He could be great.
What I'm saying is, do not treat him lightly.
Like, he is somebody that is a very serious motherfucker.
But here's a question.
Did he do the convincing or did he get picked?
Meaning, let me explain what I mean by that.
Look, when I saw him debate Waltz and the way he handled himself, when he says, I'm so sorry to hear you went through that and you and your family went through that.
That was the moment where I'm like, wow.
Feeling.
He got it.
Yes, of course.
Empathy.
Absolutely.
And even liberals have to say, this seemed like a presidential debate because of the way he carried himself.
Waltz didn't know what the fuck to do.
He's like, wait a minute, I'm the good guy.
That's right.
Wait, this guy's being good.
That's right.
What do I do?
I can't even talk to him.
That's right.
It was phenomenal.
It was a clinic.
Honestly, if anybody wants to watch a clinic of a debate, go watch the debate he had.
The way he handled himself was so.
He's stoic.
He's calm.
he's collected, but what I will say to Schultz, I'm sorry, I'm not done.
What happened right now?
I'm still giving my opinion.
No, I didn't know that.
No, hang tight.
Let me make my point.
I'll come to you, bro.
You're sitting right.
I'm going to give you your shot.
Throw something at this guy, by the way.
Throw a little flip-flop at this guy.
So Adam gets excited when comedians show up because he wants to show that he's a comedian.
And sometimes to him, it's a very important thing.
By the way, give a disclaimer before the podcast.
You're not a professional comedian.
Okay?
You're not going to convince me.
Kick back.
But anyways.
So let me go back to the point with JD.
So, however, having said that, the part you got to be thinking about is the following.
Here's the part.
I don't, I'm not deep into it to know how many of these positions are positions where a person says, I will come and give this support and I'll bring Zuck for you and I'll bring Amazon for you and I'll bring this for you in exchange for a VP.
I don't know if that happens.
Do you think that's the conversation?
I think it is.
I think in these moments, for somebody to say, look, I'll fully commit if you allow me to recommend somebody as a VP.
And if that happens, I'll give X, Y, Z amount of money.
Now, if there's anybody that you have to be careful with doing that with as Trump, why?
Because Trump's going to do what Trump's going to do.
However, Trump's also a negotiator.
Like, for example, one of the deals that Epstein's not being released, a guy on Manex Circles, Alan Klein, right?
Yeah.
Alan, what's up, baby?
He says, why do you think Schumer agreed and he caved?
You think there's any correlation with the Epstein files not being released?
I don't know.
Maybe it's a form of a leverage.
I don't know that.
You don't know that, right?
So we don't know what's going on.
But I think at these levels, at these high, high levels, how big of a role did Musk play in the 2024 election?
Huge.
Massive.
Huge.
Pennsylvania.
Huge.
250 contacts, relationship, calling people out.
Anybody that went against Trump, just kind of doing that part.
So I don't know.
And then Don Jr. was very complimentary of JD Vance.
There was a lot of talk about different people.
And I actually think they picked the right guy, to be honest with you.
I think so, too.
I think they picked the right guy.
Say don't take him lightly or make sure you take him seriously.
It's not an indictment on his character.
What I'm trying to say is he's not some idiot.
He might be the smartest man in politics.
From where he came from to where he is right now, that's a tough road to go down.
How do you put him with Vivek?
They went to school together.
What's the difference between the two?
Vivek has a harder time communicating smart ideas to dumb people.
Vivek is a genius, and he is like actually in a lot of ways far more radical than Trump or Elon or JD.
Like they're tame compared to Vivek.
Like Vivek is a true, and I mean this in like an endearing way.
He's like a constitutionalist radical.
Like his idea for Doge was different than Elon's.
His idea was like, we're going to use the Constitution to strip the bureaucracy.
We're going to go into these organizations that he feels are not representative of people and making decisions that are not representative of what people have voted for.
And we're going to use the Constitution as a justification to strip those organizations of that power.
To me, that's like a way more American way of going about this system.
Whether it works or not, who knows?
Maybe he does it with Ohio.
But I think that his trouble is I think he's around really smart people all the time who take, he can take for granted certain like vernacular that he's using that like the average day person like me might not get.
So like whenever I have him on the pod, I'm stopping him.
I'm like, you're making a good point?
Break it down.
Yeah.
Sixth grader, you know?
And that's really important.
Like the best communicators are people who can do it to sixth graders.
Like Trump doesn't talk like an Ivy League grad.
He talks like a guy from around the way.
And that's why, despite him being a billionaire.
Did you say Trump talks like he's poor?
Yeah, he talks like he said.
That was such a good point you made.
Yeah.
This is what Democrats understand.
Like, why does some guy who got money from his dad relate to the poor people?
Because he talks like that.
He talks like them.
Vance wrote Pillbilly elegy.
He knows what he's doing.
That's not a book for Deckwood.
No, of course.
Yeah, of course not.
And Vance was also in the Marine Corps.
And Pat, just throwing out a bunch of guys.
Peter Thiel hired him at an investment firm in 2017 and then donated $15 million to support him in the 2022 Ohio Senate campaign.
That's a lot.
By the way, Peter Thiel, you know what he is?
Yeah.
What?
There are the next phase of the power players behind closed doors that are super, super.
There's power players.
And then there's that guy.
And then there's superpower players.
And then there's that guy.
He is in the top five list of superpower players.
Wow.
Kingmaker.
He's a kingmaker.
He is.
He is a very, very unique guy.
Very.
Look, there's two things you can't teach man in life.
You can read all the books.
You can go to online courses.
You can go to conferences.
You can take whatever online course on negotiation, anything you want.
You can take it.
Great.
You can't teach instinct.
You can't teach intuition.
You cannot teach it.
Instinct and intuition is pure DNA, genetics.
It's you.
It's what you've seen.
It's what moments you've been to be able to read.
Like, you know, how you talk about, and you say, I don't know why, but you know, 50, whatever 50, you know, he's never wrong.
That's a what?
That's a street guy that's got intuition.
So when he calls that one guy, like the only way you build that is for having been in a lot of these weird, intense meetings to see and study body language.
And you have to have a little bit of a rough life where it was not stable to be able to size him up.
Peter Thiel's one of those guys.
Adam.
Thank you, sir.
Well, a couple of different things here.
JD versus Vivek.
Clearly, JD outlasted, you know, one of the things PBD always says is outwork, out-improve, out-strategize, outlast.
He clearly outlasted him.
Speaking like a fifth grader, you know, there was a show with Jeff Foxworthy, I believe.
Are you smarter than a fifth grader?
Yeah.
It's because there's actually a proven science to it.
Some of the reason that Trump won in 2016, because they actually tracked each of the, how many candidates where there was a A stage and a B stage at Varsity Juniversity?
Like Ted Cruz spoke like a 12th grader.
He spoke higher than anybody.
People are like, I don't even know what.
Half the thing he say it was, but I sure definitely want to build that wall and drain that swamp.
And Trump spoke like a fifth grader.
That's been tracked.
I think there's no doubt.
I think, yeah, I think that might be true, but I think you're conflating two things.
Like one is just having slogans.
I think Democrats don't have good slogans.
I think Democrats need build a wall.
They just don't have it.
And like, chop that dick.
How about that one?
I'm a knockout.
How about that one?
Hello, that doesn't catch on.
Yeah, I don't know if that's going to work.
But here's another.
I think you actually, I'm actually, Schultz, for you as a comedian, as a philosopher, and smart, I think you missed something here.
Yeah, talk to me.
I got to tell you, because I see where you're going.
I see what you're doing.
You're becoming a superstar.
You're talented.
And you said that you think that Elon, you know, you think that he's hitched to Trump forever.
I don't know.
I don't know if you're familiar with the hero's journey in Story Arc.
Ooh.
Because he was a liberal.
Now he's with Trump.
He's 25 years Trump's senior.
When Trump leaves office, Elon's going to look around.
He's going to be like, what's next?
Because you know who does this better than anybody?
Do you remember when Hulk Hogan was the good guy?
I am a feeler.
And he became NWO.
And then he went back.
Even The Rock did this.
So Elon might go back from Dark MAGA.
You never know where he's going to go with the technocracy.
And the reason that I'm so upset with you, Schultz, is because I see what you're doing.
I've seen you on WWE, buddy.
Yes.
I've seen you versus Logan Paul out there.
Can you show that?
Can we show this, Rob?
I don't know if we can.
Problems like that.
But I don't know if we can see some images.
I saw you strutting out there doing your thing.
Oh, no.
I don't know what happened with you, Logan Paul.
But you understand a hero's journey in Story Arc, Schultz.
Oh, shape.
And you understand the rise and the fall, brother.
Yeah.
So explain what's going on here.
Oh, do you get pile drive?
In WWE or in front of Elon?
With you, Elon, Story Arc, everything.
I mean, you know, Logan came to MSG and I'm there.
And he wanted me to lie in front of my people and I just can't do that.
You believe in the truth.
I believe in the truth.
I believe in supporting my New Yorkers.
Like, this is my identity is who I am.
I'm a New Yorker.
I'm an American.
And you're going to ask me to lie in front of all my people at MSG.
I can't do it.
And then he got upset.
And, you know, this guy is a WWE superstar.
He flipped me over the banister.
And then thank God AJ Styles came in and saved my ass.
But we got something for Logan.
Do you need a real man to save you, Schultz?
What's going on?
I need a real Australian with long hair to save me.
Honestly, thank God he pulled up right now.
Out of all the audiences you've been in.
Sports, Knicks, playoffs, comedy.
Yeah.
How does this rank?
Energy when you were in there.
Oh, I mean, it's so, it is, it is like fundamentally different.
Like, I would say it's, WWE is kind of similar to comedy in that like it's a conversation with the audience.
So even when you're not talking to them, you are communicating with them and they're reacting to what's happening.
This is with the, you know, the babyface and the heel.
And there's always going to be some misdirect towards the end of the match.
And it's a real conversation with the audience.
And the people that go there, I would say it's almost like soccer in Europe where they have the chance.
And like the people that are at the game are intimately involved in the game.
Like WWE is, for the people that know it, there's just amazing American art.
For the people that don't know it, they think it's just some like backyard bumpkin shit.
And it's the most misunderstood art form in America, I think, or in the world.
Like, you have to go and experience it.
It's unbelievable.
Did you ever watch his documentary?
Unbelievable.
Was that not one of the sickest documentaries of all?
That got me back in.
I watched it overnight and woke up early just to finish it on one night.
I couldn't stop.
The guy who made that is he made another one as well.
God damn it.
I'm forgetting his name.
I want to give him a shot.
You're saying the Vince McMahon documentary?
Yeah.
You haven't seen it?
Chris Smith.
I forgot the first couple episodes.
I didn't.
Oh, he didn't.
He went to sleep, actually.
Chris Smith, don't die.
Oh, damn.
Into the fire.
He did another.
He did a few.
He did another one as well.
There's another documentary that he did, but he is brilliant.
Show Chris McCarthy.
How much practice did you have to do?
No.
Fake fight.
Nothing.
I didn't even know it was going to happen.
You didn't have to do any practice to fake fight?
I didn't know it was going to happen.
I'm sitting there with my wife and my friends watching this match, and then all of a sudden Logan tries to make a moment, man.
It was crazy.
You had no idea.
Thank God for AJ Styles, man.
If AJ Styles was going to come in in that exact moment, I would have gotten my neck broken in front of 20,000 people in Madison Square Gardens.
What's the other guy?
The guy, something speed.
Tiger King, Tiger King.
Sorry.
He also did Tiger King.
He's brilliant, this guy, Chris Smith.
All right, so let's go to the next story.
You were saying, I was going to say, I show speed, something like that.
Yeah, Speed did show speed.
He got hit.
He got that spear was insane.
Dude, that was insane.
Bro, that's the other thing.
It's like, you know, obviously wrestling is scripted.
People know that, right?
But the damage these guys are taking is unbelievable.
Like when you're falling from something 10 feet and then you're hitting the floor, it's still 10 feet.
It doesn't stop being 10 feet just because you know you're going to fall from it.
So that was the most unbelievable thing watching it live.
Like the damage that they're taking.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a cool experience watching you there.
Next story.
Daily Wire co-CEO, Jeremy Boring, steps down, Axios.
A conservative media company, Daily Wire, started in 2015 and announced in a memo to staff on Tuesday that he is stepping down as co-CEO to focus on creative work, saying I will remain with the company in an advisory role and focus full-time on creative projects, including completion of Daily Wire's TV series, The Pendragon Cycle, where he is the director and executive producer.
Boring, who helped launch the outlet with $4.7 million on seed alongside Caleb Robinson and Ben Shapiro, grew it to a billion-dollar value market media giant.
He will continue hosting Daily Wire backstage, Ben Shapiro, Mad Walsh, Michael Knowles, and Andrew Clavin.
Caleb Robinson, the company's founding CEO and co-CEO with Boring since 2019, will take over as a full-time CEO immediately.
Boring's decade-long 10 years saw the Daily Wire expand from a small news startup into a major player with Daily Wire subscription streaming service.
And Ben Key, a kid streamer, as he noted in his shift, I will remain with the company in an advisory role.
This is a very nicely written article and put a valuation on the business, which is very kind.
Tom, how closely are you following this?
Are you following this at all?
Yeah, I love to read these kind of announcements because I think they're really interesting.
And I think if you read enough into it, you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist or to dive in or bend the words to get the truth out of it.
Once upon a time, he was a co-CEO.
There have been a lot of articles that have come out there.
There have been a lot of things that have been in the media, things that happen to people that have left the Daily Wire that have talked about, you know, hey, Jeremy may or may not be the easiest guy to work with there.
And so now he's like, okay, I'm not going to be co-CEO anymore.
Check.
Fact.
I am going to finish some of the content.
Well, we've seen him do content.
We've seen him do a lot of different content over there.
So he's finishing up something that he's shooting the Penderground cycle.
Okay, that makes sense.
And I'll still be with the game when we get together for Daily Wire Backstage.
Okay, well, that's a piece of content.
So he's going to drop in and do that.
Okay, I believe that.
And then you come down to the rest of it, but I'll remain with the company advisor roles.
So it's like, okay, so you're really stepping out of management.
And so the translation I would do, okay, he's going to get out of people's hair.
He's going to finish what he's doing on Penderground cycle.
He may drop back in for some of the episodes, but then he's an advisor.
To me, this is one of those things where you shift and roll out.
And if you know anything about the history of Uber, you'll know that this is kind of what happened until they finally just moved him out to Travis Kalinek.
Travis Kalinek was a CEO.
It was very hard on people, and he was very, very driven.
And certain chapters of the company, they said, you know, we don't want to do this anymore and you're going to go over here.
And so when I read all the stuff that came before it in this, it's, it's, you know, where there's smoke, there's fire, and we've seen so many articles.
Piggybacking off of Tom, the amount of, and I guess we always want to be with facts, right?
But the amount of rumors, what's it?
Ian Carroll did a huge like nine-minute video breakdown, but he did another one when he was on a you on Starbucks or what would you like?
Just regular coffee or Starbucks?
Whatever.
Whatever.
They have it if we can bring it in right now.
Oh, yeah, they got it.
They got Starbucks.
It's down the street.
No, they got one.
They got one.
Adam, Adam.
Don't sexually harass any of them.
Don't touch anybody.
Don't touch him.
Let me do it.
I don't want you guys to try to molest me so much.
Are you okay?
Kelly, hot teas.
This is delicious.
Thank you, Kelly.
We need to get a little bit of a tip.
I'm going to go clash him with a super spoon.
Good.
Lobster would be great.
Go ahead, Minnie.
But from what I've gathered, and again, these are all rumors, but it seems like they're all pointing at this place that this dude was one of the hardest dudes to work for.
Candace just made a video yesterday.
Like I said, Ian made one.
Peppy, think about it.
As a co-CEO, you let go of Candace Owens, which is one of the biggest names in the social media space.
Brett Cooper leaves, and you think you're going to replace her with her friend that tried to come in.
It's obviously not working.
The guy is a self-proclaimed, meaning he calls himself the God-King.
Rob, what was that picture that you had?
Even his licensed parking spot has God-King.
And bro, you're not.
And another rumor is that the dude shows up to work.
He ain't shooting anything and he puts makeup on.
It's like, this is just the recipe for disaster where you're trying to be the quarterback and you're not the starting quarterback, bro.
This is the business doing not good.
How do you know though?
I just, because of just my, as, as a, as a content consumer, I used to watch your budget.
I used to listen to Ben Shapiro.
I used to be all like, wow.
And, you know, the facts don't care about your feelings and everything.
And then something shifted, bro.
And I'm being.
The Republicans won.
Yeah, no, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
No, that's what I'm saying.
But then don't.
But wait a minute.
What do you mean by that?
Are you saying the fact that there's no longer an enemy and that's why they took a hit?
No, no.
Like, you know, a lot of times success has to do with social utility.
And there was a time where like being a conservative was considered very radioactive by many people in this country and largely the mainstream media.
So they needed intelligent conservatives to equip them with arguments so they could defend their positions.
And Ben Shapiro is like obviously a very smart guy.
He's annoying, but he's definitely smart.
Like, and he's a lawyer, so he can develop these like ironclad arguments.
And he went around the country and he went, you know, talking to the college kids and dunking on them and posting it.
And he made a huge name for himself for creating these ironclad arguments to basically help people that didn't know how to develop them themselves, but felt very strongly about their, you know, conservative values.
Now it's not radioactive to be conservative.
Matter of fact, the majority of the country is conservative.
They no longer need protection conservatives, right?
Conservatives no longer need to have like ironclad arguments to prove that they're not bad people, that they're not toxic, they're not radioactive.
So the social utility has gone down.
And meaning we don't have an enemy?
Is that kind of what you're saying?
So there's not an antagonist anymore because I think that's part of it.
But I think it's more just like at me, the consumer, right?
Like I think a lot of their conservative, they were going after like Christian conservatives, right?
I think now they're like the Christian conservatives.
Like, all right, well, yeah, it's not bad to be conservative anymore.
Matter of fact, it's like cool to be conservative.
Exactly.
All the most dominant forces in media right now are conservatives.
So, like, I don't need to defend myself anymore.
So, I don't need to pay for it.
Well, there's a part of it that I want to believe that.
But also, Rob, if you pull up the article that says Fox just had their most viewed viewership ever, ever.
And it was a record-breaking, I think this was just reported last week, if I'm not mistaken, Rob.
Oh, so people are going back to traditional news, you're saying no.
That was the end of January, early February, and it was the 500 out of 510.
This one, this is something that came up.
This is the 506 out of 506.
Top 506 shows out of 506 were all from Fox News.
But I thought it was going to be something where liberals were going to, you know, different shows to be able to go after Trump.
Because, you know, comedians like when Bush was president, you know, you saw Will Farrell.
I'm going to talk about taking steroids out of T-Ball.
Right.
So I thought that was going to be taking place.
But the question with the business, Tom, do you know anything about their business or no?
Is there any stories about the business that's public or no?
No, I dug in trying to find some numbers saying it was somebody leaking like the number of subscribers now versus previously.
And there's a few things out there that seem to indicate that maybe they were looking for more financing or maybe they had a little bit of maybe a little financial stress, but nothing conclusive with a bunch of numbers that says the subscribers went from A to B. Right.
Views have, real quick.
Views have?
I mean, if you look at Brett Cooper's channel, she left.
The comment section was her channel and her views were getting 1,712,000, 751,000.
Then they took her producer and took her producer and put her in her place on the same channel.
And now look at the views: 26,000, 31,000, 23,000.
So just on this channel alone, you're seeing them go from 700,000 an episode down to 25,000.
That's our friend, mind you, bro.
That's her friend that they tried to finagle and put her in.
And yeah, but they break Cooper's killing.
I mean, also, you need stars on a network, right?
Like, stars are going to obviously drive attention.
But another thing is like, I think Daily Wire was positioning themselves not only in terms of news, but they were doing like scripted content.
The idea was like, we're going to do more conservative-leaning content, TV shows, films.
And it's just like, well, yeah, now that's everywhere.
How many different lawmans are there?
How many different 1923 yellow?
Like every show on TV that's successful right now is conservative leaning.
So it became, they were able to succeed.
You could call it like when there was an enemy.
They could market against it.
They're like, hey, sign up over here because you don't get this content anywhere else.
Well, now it is the prevailing content.
So why do I need to subscribe to you and get one movie a year and then get the same talking points that I'm going to hear all these other places for free when I could just watch all the scripted TV shows I want on every different network that's out right now.
And I can consume a lot of the same like talking points.
I don't want to say the same talking points, but like a similar, get the similar emotional validation for my feelings as a conservative from watching various other podcasts that are on the internet.
Like it doesn't make any sense to subscribe.
Like what's the utility in it?
Just to listen to Ben?
Like Matt Walsh to me is the only person that's getting any cultural attention.
Man, he left?
No, I'm telling you.
He's the only one left.
He's the only guy that you can actually tolerate and listen to.
He's the only one that I see getting cultural relevance and attention at that network anymore.
And I also think that like Israel-Palestine thing, obviously, that was the biggest huge.
Yeah, because I don't know if you know this.
Ben Shapiro, he's Jewish.
I don't know that.
Yeah, I swear to God.
Yeah.
No way.
That's just a cool chat.
I chat GBT did.
Yeah.
But Jeremy Boring, the CEO, he's Christian.
I thought he was Jewish.
He's Christian.
Hold on a second.
See, you're assuming Vinny.
There he goes.
Hold on.
You're wrong.
You don't need to check.
Okay.
I want a bat.
Go ahead.
Okay.
So, but, you know, Pat, you're very big on reinventing yourself.
You know, Pat, you started off talking about entrepreneurship, and then you went into bodybuilding, and then you went into mafia, and then you went into business, and then you went into politics, and then, you know, culture.
We got Andrew Schultz here.
So at least we, from time to time, have a comedian, right, Vinny?
So what happens is Ben Shapiro is about to have a fight, but go on.
We talk about social utility.
Ben, when he showed up 10 years ago, they didn't never seen anything like him.
It was almost like when Lenny Bruce showed up in the comedians and they're like, yo, who is this dude?
I remember watching a lot of his content.
Like you'd see him like on stage at like some school and he would be debating like Black Lives Matter or something like that.
And he would have the most ironclad arguments and there was a lot of social utility.
Now everybody's got it.
Like what is that?
There was a white space in the market and now that market's full.
So what else are you offering the people?
And then you also have, then you had Stephen Crowder showed up.
He was doing his thing, showing up in Charlie Kirk is the goat at it right now.
Charlie's lunch.
Charlie's eating his lunch.
Charlie's eating Ben's lunch.
Because Charlie has Ben's talking points, but he's got that Riz.
Don't underestimate charisma and the Riz.
He's also a Christian.
I think that's important to acknowledge.
That's true.
They see the Yamaka and they're like, I don't know.
Not exactly the CDL, but I think that if you're somebody who is a devout believer in Christ, right?
Like naturally seeing somebody else whose opinions, beliefs, and like drive for life is motivated by the same thing as you are.
It's going to be way more relatable.
Seriously.
You just said the right word, relatable.
In my opinion, the Daily Wire, they're almost like elitists.
And they're smart.
Give them credit.
They're like the Ivy League type people.
What's up?
What's up?
I put hands in.
I thought you were giving me like the yeah, yeah, go at him, go at him, go at him.
That's not what you're getting.
But like a Charlie Kirk didn't go to college.
He's not a lawyer.
He's just a dude that read a lot of books.
So he's more relatable.
Yeah.
I mean, look, here's the reality of it.
Running a business is very hard.
It's so easy from the outside to criticize anybody that's running a business.
It's so hard, it's not even funny.
You lose sleep.
It leads to marriages not working out.
It leads to friendships not working out.
It leads to anxiety, to panic, to sleepless nights, to criticism.
But you chose to do that.
You chose the job.
So that's not like nobody told you not to do it.
You do a Netflix special and it isn't good.
The market's going to tell you.
You crush it.
They're going to tell you.
As a comedian, you have a risk.
As an athlete, you have a risk.
As a performer, you have a risk.
And they have a risk there as well.
The reality of it is when it comes down to Jeremy, my gut feeling, when I went the first time to Paramount, when the building that Glenn Beck and the Blaze bought, I said, wow, Glenn, so you run this entire place.
He says, oh, hell no.
I'm just a creative.
I was like, whoa.
You know how long it took him to say that?
Half a second.
Quick.
So he left to start the Blaze.
And then he realized he's just a creative.
He's an artist.
One of the hardest things to do is to be a creative and be able to operate.
That is not easy.
Because imagine he's trying to be an actor and he's trying to do the movie and he's trying to get into the part.
And then at the same time, hey, we just lost three employees.
What do you want me to do with this new guy that we hired?
All right, cut.
Guys, I need seven minutes.
Great point.
And you try to smile.
Hey, Jeremy, you look angry.
Let me watch a cat dance.
Hey, two more people quit.
Let me give me a break.
Cut.
Like, dude, it's like, if you're an artist, be an artist.
Like, when you see Christian Bill lose his shit, I understand.
You were creative.
Leave me the F alone.
Put the freaking mic up.
I'm trying to get into this part.
You're standing there holding the shit, getting in.
Do your damn job, right?
So I understand the creative.
You're trying to be creative and you're trying to do this.
One of the best things Greg Popovich ever told.
I was about to say Derek Harper.
Tim Duncan.
Who is the guy?
Derek Parker?
Was it something?
Tony Parker.
He's a Parker.
I went back.
Have a little respect for Tony Peckey.
Tony Parker.
You know what he said to him?
He said, Hey, I think I want to be the number one guy.
I read the story somehow.
So he says, Look, you can go anywhere else you want.
You'll average 32 points a game.
You'll be a superstar.
You'll be up there.
No problem.
You will not win championships.
Tim Duncan's our player.
Wow.
If you want to play point guard, you got a place here.
We'll win championships.
If Jeremy is able to just be creative and give his wealth of knowledge he has of what do you call it?
Daily wire.
And you know, who's the other Caleb?
Is it Caleb?
If you don't know what he looks like, that's better.
Poppy and Ben's right.
That's what I'm saying.
So if you want to celebrate Caleb Robinson, so if he, Caleb Robinson, I think if he, no, to the right, Rob, to the right, it says Caber Robinson.
I think that's the guy.
If he's one of the owners of yeah, so if the co-CEO, they mentioned the name here.
Can you make sure I get the name right?
Who else?
The co-CEO?
Caleb Robinson.
If he's the CEO and Jeremy becomes creative and Ben is doing his thing here, Boca, and he goes back and forth with Nashville, whatever he's doing, they have to recreate themselves.
But also don't forget, there's another group of people that nobody hears about, and that's investors.
Investors will come in and they'll say things like this.
That's not working out.
What do you mean?
It's time.
And then there's a very ugly board meeting, very entertaining, back and forth.
And you have to find a way to make a decision gently.
And slowly, the person who leaves is going to tell their version of the story.
Then the company, and many times, they can't tell the full story.
So they're the ones that are going to be bashed for a long time because they can't fully tell the whole story.
Like, I wish you knew what happened, but I can't tell you the full story.
Then there's employees on the inside that are leaking information to others on the outside.
So podcasters and everybody else is kind of telling their version of the story.
And then there's people that are leaking misinformation to confuse everybody with a story.
But it takes two, three, four, five years, and then you realize what really happened.
Here, I actually think Jeremy's creative guy.
He has a dream since he was a kid.
He wants to do something.
Go for it.
I like the fact that Candace was very respectful to Ben, gave Ben the respect.
And I actually really like the way she did it.
And I would like to see those two do something here soon, Candace and Ben.
I think it'd be great for them to do a conversation together.
I'm not saying her going back.
That'll never happen.
I'm just saying the fact that they do something together because a team of rivals is still better than what the enemy is trying to do to everybody.
If we can figure out a way to get the team of rivals to work together, it's a good thing.
And trust me, I've done many jobs that the responsibility has been on me that I hated it.
I'll never forget one of my guys.
We're sitting on a board.
Tom, you may remember this.
I said, How much do you like selling annuities?
I hate it.
Really?
Yes, I hate it.
I don't want that responsibility.
What do you want to do?
I just want to do this.
I said, no problem.
If I say the thing, everybody will know who I'm talking about.
I said, you will never have to worry about this.
Focus on this.
Are you good?
The level of anxiety and panic gone.
He performed well here.
We gave this job to another person that Tom hired.
We were good to go.
Smart.
So I hope this happens.
And by the way, don't be surprised if somebody comes in and picks it up.
And Adam, I'm moving on.
Don't be surprised if somebody comes in and tries to pick it up and buy it.
And there's some kind of thing that happened.
Great.
That may also be a good thing.
But if that does happen, guess who's doing that?
Guess who's doing that?
Guess who's causing that?
Investors.
Of course.
Investors are like, hey.
What is what, like, what could Daily Wire be?
It seems like a lot of these places, they can really only be like incubation chambers for talent because the talent knows what views they're getting.
They know how successful they are versus everybody else there.
And they know how to create their shows.
So they're like, all right, all these people like me and my show and my content.
So like, once my contract's up, I'll leave.
I mean, you see this happen with Barstool a lot, right?
And Portnoy says it plain and simple.
He's like, listen, we're here.
We have like the, was it the music model?
We're like, we're going to sign a bunch of different artists.
We're going to see which one cracks.
But eventually they're going to grow out of Barstool.
And you see it happen all the time.
So like that's not their model, though.
Haley Wire's model is the opposite.
That's what they think.
And then Brett leaves and then Candace leaves.
And then all these other people leave and they have huge success after leaving.
So now Matt's got to be looking at that going, hold on, I'm getting paid this year.
But if I do it myself and I can produce all these documentaries by myself, I can make all this shit by myself.
I can make this amount of money.
I just don't understand what their leverage is.
It's not like back in the day when HBO owned a channel on TV and the only way you could get on that channel was through HBO.
They're putting their content out on YouTube.
They don't own YouTube.
They have an OTT though.
They have an OTT with a couple hundred thousand subscribers that's paying monthly.
Which is huge.
So it's a real volume.
That's a real.
How much is Matt getting of that?
And what if Matt could do that by himself?
So you know where you go with this.
Now you're talking business model where the difference is they went after people that were already established outside of Brett Cooper.
Candace was already established.
Jordan Peterson was already established.
So maybe a couple people that came up there, but the business model has to be questioned as well.
You have to sit there and question the business model.
Also, if you're sorry, sorry, keep going, but like also, if you're a content creator, you have to look at going over to that place that might be viewed as radioactive and how people are going to view you after that.
Like I think Peterson's been going down since being there, his public perception, 100%.
Why do you say that?
I don't know.
I just see it.
It seems skewed.
I think before, when he was coming up, there was this bipartisan support for Peterson, the message that he had.
And now I think that it's become quite partisan.
Like the way now, he also got so big.
And when naturally you get successful, people are going to criticize you.
But I don't think that it's at the same level that it was before.
And I don't know if that's indictment on Daily Wire, but when you are next to something that is radioactive, you're going to get some of that.
I don't disagree.
I don't disagree.
And again, we're going to see what's going to happen next with these guys and what they do, but we will be following the story closely to see what happens with those guys.
Next story.
Want to get your thoughts on this.
So, married, 13-month-old baby, and on your way to maybe have another six more.
Who knows?
Seven more, eight more.
God willing.
God willing.
There's a story that comes out with Alec Baldwin and his wife.
And his video got some attention.
And if you can go to it, so this is them at an event, planning Hollywood event.
If you can play this clip, Rob, and some are saying this was staged to promote their show.
Some are saying this was not staged.
Some are saying this is cringe.
It's acting.
It's not.
It's real.
Play the clip, Rob.
There it is.
You're a winner.
Oh, my God.
When I'm talking, you're not talking.
No, go back a little bit.
Go back a little bit.
I think it's real.
You're a winner.
Oh, my God.
When I'm talking, you're not talking.
No, when I'm talking, you're not talking.
This is why.
Yes, we'll have to just cut him out of the show.
There it is.
You're a winner.
Oh, my God.
When I'm talking, you're not talking.
No, when I'm talking, you're not talking.
I got to know the whole context of this.
That could just be sarcasm.
That could just be bust and balls.
Because, I mean, there's no way.
Like, that's insane.
Also, she's had how many kids?
Seven of them.
Say whatever you want.
You squeeze out seven kids.
Say whatever the fuck you want.
Like, it's just how many do you have now?
Four.
Four.
Three more.
Your wife can't be like, yo, when I'm talking, you're not talking.
That was seven kids.
Jen would never even.
That's not her personality.
But besides Jen not even saying it, can you imagine what Batspace would do?
No, but that is not Jen's personality at all.
You know, until I saw this, I didn't know how much we miss Sean Connery.
Jesus Christ.
Damn.
Tom is going.
Tom, sorry.
Tom, yeah, I don't know.
I mean, like, again, I don't know if they're being sarcastic and they're playing into something.
It's just this small little, you know, what is it?
We're talking at 10 seconds.
I'm just aware of how often I'm taken out of context.
So I have empathy for when people are potentially.
You're becoming very empathetic.
It's a very beautiful thing.
If you have a kid, you start to do that shit.
For real.
Wait a minute now.
Andrew's going to be like, it's honestly probably not a big deal.
Leave the man alone.
Hasn't he not gone through enough already?
Also, she's not afraid.
Like, he's a killer, man.
Like, if he.
Oh, literally.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like, if she's not afraid.
She's lucky she didn't get shot.
That's it.
Like, there's no...
If she's not afraid, this has got to be set up.
Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Exactly.
I mean, he might have done that.
Imagine the type of woman that's kids.
Oh, seven of the kids?
Seven?
She's gorgeous.
Imagine the type of cloud he has around the house when she starts acting up and he goes.
Yeah, I mean, you just reach for that thing.
You say that again.
I'm going to go get an unloaded.
Exactly.
Yeah.
We all saw the movie White Man Can't Jump.
I'm going to go to my car.
I'm going to get my gun.
Everyone's like, We're all out of here.
But by the way, how old do you think she's going to be?
Talking about white man Genshin.
Were you in?
No, what were you?
No, you weren't.
The remake of it.
The remake.
Yeah.
They're like, get me all the white man.
In a locker or something.
Yeah, it was sick.
Yeah, thanks, man.
Yeah, it was sick.
The original is still the goat, though.
Stop way better.
Shout out to Jack Harlow and whatever that was.
But stop it, guys.
Woody, Woody, Woody.
Woody Harrison.
Who made the movie?
Woody made the movie.
Woody.
I mean, Snaps was good, but Woody was incredible.
Both of them were incredible.
No, no, no, no.
Rosie Perez.
Rosie was incredible.
What's the quote?
Sometimes when you win, by the way, Louis.
Do you know how hard it is to watch that movie?
No.
Every time I watch it, I'm like, bro, don't do it.
Don't go back to her place.
Like, I'm just hoping every time I watch it, he's going to change his mind.
But it keeps happening.
Listen to her.
40 years later, 30 years later, he still doesn't.
So you think he's still worried about the Snookie Brothers?
Yeah, that's right.
The Snookie Brothers.
The Snookie Brothers.
All right, so not much here for you.
Let's go to the next story, Rob.
Yeah, I kind of want to go through this story.
China, Hong Kong threatened to thwart the sale of Panama Canal ports to American black, America's BlackRock.
Very, very weird, interesting thing happened here when you look at this.
Okay, very interesting thing happened here.
China and Hong Kong pushback against a $23 billion deal where BlackRock, a U.S. investment giant, would buy a Panama Canal ports.
Crystal Ball and Balbo.
One is at the North Atlantic and the other one is at the South Pacific from C.K. Hutchinson, owner, Hong Kong billionaire, Lee Kaxing, with Hong Kong leader John Lee saying it deserves serious attention.
President Donald Trump praises it as the U.S. reclaiming the canal, but Beijing probes into antitrust and national security concerns that could redeem it, derail it as expert Gordon Chang warns if Beijing stops this deal, that's a direct challenge to the president of the United States on an issue that he really cares about.
The canal handles 5% of global trade.
The deal, which includes 43 ports from 23 different countries, aimed to counter Trump's claim that China used the canal to rip off U.S. ships and fees.
But Lee jabbed at Trump saying we oppose the abusive use of coercion of bullying or bullying tactics in international economic and trade relations.
Tom, your thoughts on this?
Well, first of all, what's really interesting is if you know anything about Hong Kong billionaire Lee Cashing, he's known as Lee Cash In, right?
Because of the deals that he's done.
I can see they get that nickname.
And he did tremendous deals starting in the early 90s with cellular phones and everything.
And it was Hutchinson Wampoa, which is now his derivative, C.K. Hutchinson.
So this guy is like a major, major player.
He's not a casual player.
But he's always been a Hong Kong guy, not a China guy.
He's always been a Hong Kong guy.
And then he's got his son who's usually has kind of screwed things up.
Well, what's interesting here is BlackRock comes to him and says, hey, we'll buy these two things for, you know, $23 billion.
We'll buy these two ports.
So that would be like you saying, I'm going to buy the Cypress Creek on-ramp, I-95, and I'm going to buy the Sunrise on-ramp to 95.
So if you want to go on I-95 between those, you got to use those on-ramps.
So it's a smart move by Trump.
Trump asked him to do it.
Trump said, Hey, could you go buy these?
And then you'll own it.
You'll make a lot of money.
Because what has China been doing?
They've been building these oversized bridges and they've been also building infrastructure down there because they want to screw with the West and control of the Panama Canal.
And Trump's like, hey, I got an idea.
You buy the two on-ramps on either end from Lee Cash In.
You do that.
And that way we'll have kind of a stalemate with China trying to put its influence on the Panama Canal.
And who's the first person to speak up?
Beijing.
Hang on a minute.
I think this deserves serious attention, whatever that is in Chinese.
Right.
And then says, and we think there could be anti-Trump, antitrust, and national security concerns.
And we're like, we agree.
Yours, not mine.
Yours.
And so I think this is a good deal for the U.S. to neutralize what China's been doing with the Panama Canal.
And if you don't know how important it is, you should watch some of the stuff that we've done and that this man has done because we've talked about how big and important this port is.
Yeah, I mean, this is 43 ports that they bought.
In the canal right now, there's five ports.
Okay.
China owned two of them.
We owned a very small port that's they call now facility.
Singapore owned a small facility, and I think Thailand owned a small facility.
Now we bought two of them.
One is here Atlantic, the other one is here Pacific.
Very, very important that that is not taking place.
But there's a couple things that the history with this is unique.
This guy, C.K. Hutchinson, the founder, the owner of it, back in the 90s, he had a real estate deal that he did that Xi prevented from happening.
So the two have history for many, many years of this taking place, many, many years of this taking place.
And, you know, while this is going back and forth, he does real estate sell-off in 2020, 2021, way before, and Xi did not like that.
So now he's selling this, and the deal happened very quickly.
By the way, on the back end, think about it on the back end.
BlackRock.
What happened to BlackRock last four years?
Positive or negative?
Negative.
Okay, DEI, you got the net zero deal.
You had ESG.
So watch this.
Whoever did this deal, brilliant.
In January, if you can go, Rob, and you look at the net, what was it called?
Type in net, not net zero.
What's the type in zero BlackRock climate change?
Type in zero BlackRock climate change.
It should be January.
Zero emissions.
Net zero statement.
Right.
The net zero.
Go to, yeah, if you can go to zero.
If you go to net zero, go back a little bit, Rob, to see under the news.
Go to news.
If you can go to news right there, zoom in a little bit.
Look at the dates.
BlackRock quits climate group as Wall Street lowers environmental profile.
You know how big of a deal that was?
This was the $60 trillion deal that BlackRock was like, we're going to go fix climate change.
You better be a part of it.
And you better have a high ESG score or else remember this whole thing that we were talking about?
Boom.
BlackRock says we're out.
Then in February, what do you think they do?
In February, I think it's 24th, they say we're out of DEI.
When do you think the deal happens?
First week of March.
So whether this was, and by the way, you know who coached them through the process of this deal getting done with Panama Canal?
Scott Besant, Marco Rubio, President Trump, and others coached them through the process of doing this.
And you know how quickly this sale happened?
Like this, very quickly.
And President Trump's been complimentary of BlackRock.
I think founder Larry Fink in 2017 saying he made him some money in the past before.
Here's the question and a concern.
The main question we have to ask is the following.
It's two questions and see how you feel about this.
Do you feel more comfortable, BlackRock, owning the Panama Canal?
Do you know what type of leverage that is?
Let me tell you, if people were worried about tariffs, if we, U.S., BlackRock, owns the canal against them, China, they came up with something written by the BBC that said any company that's based out of China, at any point, we can seize that company and control the decisions.
You know what it means?
If China wants to say C.K. Hutchinson from China, U.S. is not playing ball with us with tariffs.
Guess what we're doing?
We're stopping anything to go through Panama Canal.
China could do that.
With a law that they passed in 2020, Rob, I think if you can have Brandon send it to you, something that they did in 2020, 2021 when they wrote about it.
So the question becomes, are you more comfortable with these two ports being owned by China, C.K. Hutchinson, or BlackRock?
That's the question.
Andrew, what do you think?
I feel like once an American company gets big enough, they just become an arm of the State Department.
Not an arm, but like the decisions that they make at the highest level will be to the benefit of what the State Department believes is for America.
Let's hope.
Sometimes these companies make a lot of money and it doesn't really help American citizens.
And we have a lot of resentment for that.
But like Google works for America, right?
Facebook works for America.
And I wonder if BlackRock works for America and that's Trump essentially going, yo, go buy that.
We're going to tell you what to do with it, right?
And we're going to administer whatever geopolitical leverage that we need to administer through you, but we'll let you reap the benefits from it.
The annoying thing about that is that I don't know if the American people are going to get the advantages of the American military, which is backing BlackRock owning this very prestigious piece of geopolitical leverage.
If it's a profitable endeavor, I want that to trickle back to the American people, not Larry Fink.
So, and it's not like we can't just go buy it.
Why don't we just go buy it?
I wonder if when we buy it, then it's an international flare-up.
So we almost have to do it through like Shell Corporation, which is BlackRock.
If we do it, China goes, this is war.
If BlackRock does it, we just go, hey, that's BlackRock.
It's the biggest fund manager in the world.
We got nothing to do with that.
But then Trump calls Larry and goes, Larry, this is what I need you to do.
And then he better do it.
Yeah.
But it's a shame.
I want the American people to win.
Tom, what do you think?
Well, I see the logic in that, but there's also something else.
When the states, you know, because, you know, the U.S. states cannot run a deficit.
It's law.
At the end of a year, if a U.S. state has a deficit, it's got to go.
The federal government's got to go to bonds.
It's got to figure it out.
It's got to balance the books.
It's law.
If only the U.S. government was like that.
Well, guess what?
The things that states have trouble building is infrastructure.
The things that states have trouble handling is widespread natural disasters.
So, when it came time for all for prisons and infrastructures, you take a look at the amount of private prisons in the United States.
Do you know Montana has no prisons built by the people's money?
They're all built privately.
Andrew, build me a prison.
I'll send you guys to keep track of, and I'll pay to keep track of those guys.
But I don't want to build the prison, but we'll give you the 30, 40 grand a year so that you can operate it.
I think this is no different.
It's like, you know, we're trying to save money, not spend money.
Tell you what, you buy it for $23 billion.
That serves our interests.
But if anything happens or goes wrong, you know, the U.S. Navy is going to be there.
We got your back.
And I think it's that simple.
And by the way, Lee Cashing is 96 years old.
So if you want to get in there, talk about Auto Pen and see if he did it or his son did it.
This is the time to do it.
Yeah.
I got to pee real quick.
Yeah.
You guys keep going.
Go ahead.
You go, Pete.
By the way, don't get harassed because there's a bunch of girls out there.
Tom, out of fun facts.
You know, their EBITDA was $1.7 billion.
And BlackRock bought it for 13x EBITDA.
And they said, usually these ports, the comps are 16x EBITDA.
So some say he was supposed to pay $5 billion more.
But then Morningstar analysts said this was only a $10 billion deal and they paid $13 billion more.
Now we know which way Morningstar leans and what they're going to be saying.
So who knows what the story is being told here.
But I'm actually curious to know what's going to happen.
This is one of the things I personally am very excited about.
You know why?
Because 70% of the traffic at the Panama Canal is U.S. 70%.
70% is us.
So guess what?
If it and just cross your fingers that this gets picked up in the U.S., because the only concern I have with BlackRock owning it is this.
I don't have a problem BlackRock owning it now with Trump being the president.
I have very big concerns on who runs BlackRock next and who is president next.
Because if a China, you know how you play Monopoly, what are the two pieces you don't want to lose?
If you could say two pieces.
Boardwalk and what?
Park Place.
Okay.
Let's just say those two pieces right before you get what?
Cash, you Pasco, you get $200?
Okay.
Imagine somebody just gives that up to somebody else.
You're like, dude, why'd you just sell that to?
You're not supposed to sell Boardwalk and Park Place.
China, if this deal goes through, lost Boardwalk and Park Place.
Oh, please.
You know how long this guy's owned it, C.K. Hutchison?
Almost 25 years, give or take.
Because if we buy this piece and keep it, China will do everything it can to make sure this deal doesn't go through and even more to make sure they buy it back from the next person that becomes president.
You're going to see this is not over with.
Those are because the level of leverage.
So now imagine Trump was to go and say, I'm going to put tariffs on you, China.
Oh, yeah, I'm going to put tariffs on you.
No problem.
The ports closed for you.
Oh, wow.
Leverage.
Like at the highest level.
Because if you don't go, the difference is 5,000 additional miles, give or take.
Forget it.
And the amount of time that it takes to go through.
Forget it.
Yeah.
So this is a very, very big deal.
If they get it done, who the hell even thought about this before they talked about it?
Nobody.
Nobody.
Nobody panemed up to it.
But no.
But the people that brought this to Trump, or if this was Trump's idea on his own, this is massive.
Tom.
Oh, absolutely.
And I think there's something else here that we have to remember.
During the height of inflation, there was a secondary inflation effect that was in Europe.
You know what it was called?
It was called Yemeni guys in rubber boats that were interfering with all the boats international trade getting to the Suez Canal.
And they start down there at the Horn, right at Yemen.
So you had the Houthis, you had the Yemen pirates, you had all this stuff.
And you have, there was a very average Tom Hanks movie way back when that talked about piracy.
I'm the captain now, Tom.
But that's what was going on down there.
And that was impacting inflation on food coming into Europe.
And it had a dramatic impact on inflation until the U.S. Navy said, all right, the hell with it.
We got all these extra torpedoes.
Let's play fun, shoot to kill.
Right.
And all of a sudden, the pirates kind of stayed home.
Like I said, this is two of the most like if right now we had an unlimited amount of supply of companies to buy, there's three pieces that we'd love to buy, okay?
Three assets that we would love to buy.
Very important to buy these three assets, right?
Just this is privately, you and I talk about this regularly.
Sure.
This is a top three of the fact that if they get this deal done, China's going to do everything in their power to prevent this from happening.
Were they in the deal?
It's not done yet.
It's not done yet.
Okay, so how long do you think, as people that know about this type of stuff, how long would that take?
And what could China do to what?
Jack more money.
What happened with Jack Ma?
When's the last time you heard about Jack Ma.
Disappeared?
I can't hear Andrew.
What's the last thing happened to Jack Ma?
He's red.
Can you tell me?
He became magically invisible for about two years, allegedly in Singapore, allegedly in Tokyo, and didn't say that word could happen to this guy here.
Anyways, two more stories before we wrap up.
Your friends, Myron Gaines, just did a super chat.
So let me read it to you.
Vinny, I hope you're ready for this as well.
Israel killed JFK to protect their nuclear program.
Israel killed RFK because he was snooping around and never trusted the Warren Commission and tried to make them register under FARA.
David Ferry and Jack Valenty were shooters.
You're welcome.
Tell Schultz.
Are you guys like that close?
Like, are you guys hanging out like Mike?
You're having dinner together like this.
Yeah, that's my buddy.
That's what I do.
You're really.
I don't like him.
No.
This is going to make his day.
I can't believe we're even mentioning him on a show.
But $100 Super Chat.
He did two Super Chats.
I mean, that's a way of giving love.
That's a lot of money.
So, wait, we're live now.
Yeah, he paid Super Chat.
Oh, he's paying for that too.
Yeah, he paid Super Chat.
This is like Chipotle's on us.
He paid for it.
Shout out to him.
I didn't know that you were paying for Chipotle.
100%.
But he's definitely right.
He's got all the answers.
Absolutely.
There's nobody that understands geopolitics better than him.
100%.
He's got it.
I'm 100% sure.
Why am I getting a lot of cardias in my life?
There's no sarcasm here.
Why would anybody else know more?
Why would there be any other expert in the world?
He's a smart guy.
He talks about dating relationships.
Of course.
100%.
100%.
It is him.
What do you think, Pat?
Do you think he's got all the answers?
Can you do that?
Do you think this is just the latest internet grift?
What do you think?
I will tell you, he's a very good communicator, and this is one of those things that I think he is willing to die on.
Yeah, you don't gotta lie, bro.
No, no, but a good communicator.
Can you do me a favor?
Pull up the one story about on John FK, John F. Kennedy, that you guys talked about, I think, on Unusual.
You know, there were three of the files.
One of them having to do with Israel.
Is there anything there?
It's so much fun with that.
I mean, like you're giving oxygen.
You're giving oxygen to these poor guys.
You just got to let them go die off.
It's close.
It's almost done.
You think?
No weapon formed against me shall prosper, bro.
It never happens.
Yeah, they all just destroy themselves.
You guys have beef?
Is that what's going on?
I don't even think that's going to be.
I have no idea that there's issues, just so you know that.
He has a little obsession with me.
Okay.
It's a cloud obsession.
It's not just if they're like, I guess now you get to a point, you guys have probably experienced this, like you get to a point where your name has currency online.
So you add your name to something and then spin whatever narrative.
I got it.
Exactly.
So now you're giving, you know, you're getting him a couple bucks.
He'll get a couple bucks out of this.
But you're welcome.
So he paid 200.
Maybe he gets 250 back.
It's the name of the game.
It's the name of the game.
All right.
So what's this, Rob?
What's this one you pulled up?
This was one of the documents that implicated that Israel may have had something to do with the assassination of JFK.
What does it read?
See what we're going to say.
Do we have answer background?
Check on Show Flash Markets.
Angela CIA Directors Permitted.
Angleton, can't read the rest.
Projects, many of them.
The intelligence service.
Israel Intelligence.
He was given authority by the CIA.
Okay.
What does this mean, Rob?
To be honest with you, I'm not sure.
I've not read into the Israeli connection.
And you didn't read the 80,000 documents in the last 24 hours?
You know what I'm saying?
Come on, Rob.
By the way, I think this is going to take a couple weeks because even some of the stuff Grock and Chad GBT is saying right now is contradicting itself.
But I hope I don't care who was behind it.
I just want to know.
I hope we get 100% to the bottom of what happened here with the story.
He said the answer.
I mean, if Myron said it, it's going to use that as his intro.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you think if it was Israel or if it was the CIA or if it was one of them, do you think that they would actually release the 80,000 pages that would prove it was one of them?
You just released the one page.
Like the fact that it's 80,000 pages makes me go, okay, nothing's in here.
Because we don't want to read all 80,000.
They just want to know who did it.
So there's one page of who did it, and it's not in the 80,000.
Yeah.
It doesn't take a genius to put that together.
Like if there was proof that it was one, if it was the CIA, if it was Israel, whoever the fuck it was, it was Russia.
Yeah.
You just released the page that says that's who it was.
But it's not in there.
But you're not going to find like a to-do list from the desk of Dulles to-do things today.
Dry cleaning, lunch with Fred, kill president, have them all three checked off.
You're the last one.
You're not going to find something like that.
Let me just say one thing.
I think you're making the point that I'm making.
You're not going to find it.
If you're going down the list of likelihoods, CIA, Alan Dulles, LBJ, the FBI, the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Mafia, the Mossad, whatever, it's like, well, how fucking bad is the CIA to let a foreign entity, whether it's Israel, Saudi, Qatar, China, whoever it is, into the country and kill the president?
Well, the argument is shared interests.
The argument is that they would want to.
So here's the thing.
So it's probably the CIA.
So that goes back to what we were saying in the beginning.
Like, if you know somebody's going to do something and you're allowing them to do it, who's the person?
But who's really responsible?
Are they responsible?
The guy calling the shots, not the guy who pulls the trouble, but I get what he's saying.
Share responsibility.
If you know, let's just say, let's just say, if you know that on this day and there's been rumors from this guy that planes are going to go into a building and you don't say shit and you let it happen, what he's saying is, do you blame the government or do you blame the guys that are coming in to do the bombing?
True.
Now it's like, holy shit, where are we at?
Who convinced them?
How about this?
Who convinced them that it was in their best interest to even do it?
Oh, God.
That gets even deeper.
I mean, if you really want to know how, like, listen, let's be conspiracy theorists for a second.
Let's just play.
Okay, this is kind of fun play.
Vinny's out every day.
What is it like?
What is it before?
When does Navalny get killed?
Alexey Navonny in Russia?
Yeah, yeah.
When does he get killed?
18 months ago.
It was like a week before we sent like $200 billion over to Ukraine.
Okay.
So, like, let's say we need some support for sending money to Ukraine and we need to, you know, we can't just send 200 billion.
We got to make this Putin guy look like an absolute fucking psychopath, even though we already know he's a psychopath, but we got to make him look even more like a psychopath.
So, let's kill his one opposition, the one vocal opposition that's in a jail in Siberia.
He's not going to do anything anyway.
Why would you even need to kill that person?
Okay, well, if he ends up dead, maybe we got a little bit more support to send $200 billion worth of weapons.
Let's just say this is all hypothetical bullshit.
There's no proof to any of this stuff.
I'm just saying.
Now, if we kill him, maybe that's war.
So, maybe we need somebody else that's got really good intelligence to go out there and get something done.
They might even have somebody that's working in the prison.
Shit, they had someone that was working at the head of the Syrian defense force.
Why wouldn't they have somebody working in a prison or a friend that was working?
Maybe that's Mossad.
So, then you tap Mossad, you go, hey, can you go do that thing for us?
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
I'm just saying, is that how it works?
We don't know.
Nobody knows the directionality.
But to me, we're the one who knocks.
We're not the one that gets told what to do.
We're the one who does the telling.
That's what we've been doing for the last 100 years.
So, like, why are we pretending like we got our dicks tucked between our legs?
Why do Americans want to even believe that?
Like, come on, let's be a little bit more realistic here.
Do you remember the story of Robert Moses?
Oh, yeah, the developer.
The developer in New York, the stuff that he did.
So, the stories you hear about this guy, he was never a money guy, but he knew how to get the money guys to own favors, and all the money guys feared him.
It's not necessarily always that, you know, the rich guys that get things done.
Sometimes it's the guy like a J. Edgar Hoover or the mob or guys like him who have so much intel on somebody that they can get them to do things that they typically wouldn't do.
So, it's also whoever has the most intel to be able to bribe, to be able to hold hostage, to be able to do a lot of different things.
There are many different business models at this level, and it can get nasty.
So, yes, I agree.
Who the hell knows what happened there behind closed doors and who's pulling the strengths?
Who knows how many times we've asked MI6 to go handle some business for us?
Oh, for sure.
The French, whatever the fuck.
It's like when you say, when we say allies, like, yeah, we're going to go bang out in a world war, but I think allies now means like the sharing of important information and the execution of violent acts.
Yes.
And sometimes those violent acts can't reflect back on you.
Like, what is, I mean, the Houthis are essentially, I don't know enough to even talk about this, but that's Iran-backed, right?
So, yes, we're saying the Houthis are doing it, but it's really Iran doing it, right?
So, yeah, okay, let's hold the Houthis responsible.
They're the ones setting the missiles, but if the missiles are from Iran, the money's from Iran.
Is it Iran that's doing it?
For sure, it's on Iran.
Yeah, no, no.
What I'm saying is, sometimes everybody needs a little bit of a proxy, and sometimes people have a little bit more intelligence than a region.
So then you go tap them to go do the thing.
And then conspiracy theorists run fucking wild.
I want to know who is the first domino with this.
That's all I want to know.
I can't wait for it to come out.
Let me do this last one.
Let me do the last one, and we're done.
Kanye West says, fuck Jay-Z and Beyonce drags own kids into mess and latest expletive filed tirade.
Adam, you said you wanted to talk about this.
Listen, what's going on here?
What is a story here that you wanted to talk about to wrap up with?
This one's ugly, man.
Really?
What is this one?
This is getting so sad.
I don't know.
I don't even know.
I don't even know if you want to give this attention, bro.
You don't want that on your heart.
Then go ahead.
I mean, it's just.
I don't know what it's about.
This is about the, let me just read this.
Kanye West, the Yeezy founder, raged on X against X-Wife Kid Kim Kardashian, a reality TV star.
We know we don't need to explain that.
Over their daughter.
Now you're getting the kids involved.
Northwest Vocals saying, so Kim got me the name and likeness over my black children after rapper Playboy Cardi asked her, Kim Kardashian, tell my niece North to send me a song.
Wes fumed, so a white woman has control over the name and likeness of my black children.
She's your ex-wife and mother of the children, Kanye.
And then speaks to Cardi about putting my daughter on a song with him.
Triggered by Cardi's request to follow in Kardashian's Instagram post of a song mentioning her Skims brand.
West blasted Kim K for blocking his track.
She blocked him.
Lonely Road Still Go into Sunshine featuring 11-year-old North and Sean Diddy Combs.
What is this story about?
I thought you were talking about another one that was up there for a second, which I just think it's like, don't even give attention.
What is this one about?
I don't even know what this is about.
So essentially, Kim owns the rights to, I guess, the copyright to the name of their kid.
You know, so I don't know how that works in their business.
I don't.
That's exactly what it is.
Yeah.
I'm not trying to make my kid famous.
It's just weird.
To me, the disgrace that is now Kanye.
You know, they say you have to separate the art from the artist sometimes, right?
Yeah.
Gifted artist.
I mean, we all listen to Kanye's music.
Nobody listens to his music.
Nobody's denying that.
But whatever he's doing, whether it's the Nazi symbols, whether it's he was dressing up in the KKK and the Ku Klux Klan thing the other day, selling Nazi paraphernalia.
Imagine you are his daughter because now the kids are involved.
He's publicly talking about his kids.
Now the kids are involved.
Imagine what it's like being those kids going to school.
They're 10, 8, 15, however old they are.
Dealing with, isn't your dad Kanye West the black Nazi, the racist?
Imagine the kids dealing with this.
You want to go ruin your life and ruin your reputation or in what you think, becoming a martyr, exposing what you think you're exposing when you've already been clinically diagnosed with bipolarism or schizophrenia or on the spectrum.
Do it, Kardashian.
Do you know Kardashianism?
Do you, bro?
But now you're getting your kids involved and they're going to pay the price.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's fucked.
You seem very disgusted by that.
No, there was just another thing that he tweeted that I thought we pulled up for a second.
What was that wrong?
What was that first time?
But the other ones were about Jay-Z and Beyonce.
So apparently he's just, I mean, I don't know if he's had his mind, but he's lost it, what little mind he had left.
And he was calling their children all kinds of names, mental retardation, insinuation, self-interest about Jay-Z's kids.
Whoa.
When you're messaging all in caps, like there's, he's, I feel good.
What do you think is actually going on with this guy?
Like, do you think that there's.
Look, I mean, I'll go very three levels lower than this.
Remember when Ryan Garcia was doing what he was doing last year?
Yeah, of course.
You know, like, what are you doing?
Like, some of the stuff was a little bit far, and he was getting the eyeballs.
Maybe it was last year, year and a half.
I don't know when the fight was.
Whenever the fight, you know what I'm talking about.
Notice it's been very quiet.
Quiet for a while, right?
Yeah.
Who's in your ear?
I have no idea who's in your ear.
I have no idea who's in your ear.
And sometimes it goes back to what Aaron Spicer said many men 20 some years ago to me.
He says, one of the worst things about being an artist is he says, are you good with a lot of idle time?
I said, no, I need to always be doing something.
He says, this isn't for you.
He says, it's not good for you.
He says, artists screw things up when they have a lot of time on their hands.
Sometimes having too much time on your hands, your imagination goes.
You know, it's like the athlete that retires and comes home, now is around the wife all the time.
They're fighting all the time.
Divorce.
Yeah, because you used to have somebody else to fight.
Now it's your wife you're fighting with.
So I don't know.
I don't know what's going on here.
And he got divorced, I believe, again from the latest.
Could have been a publicity.
It could have been a publicity.
Jank, if you're watching this today, remember, you have an appointment this weekend.
You have an appointment.
And by the way, if you want to accelerate that appointment to tonight, you can do that.
Yes.
Put it in your calendar and go watch the life, Andrew Schultz life, and watch it with your spouse.
And FYI, if you're not even married yet, if you're engaged or if you're dating someone that's pretty serious, that you may get married one day, watch it with her and with them.
Trust me on this.
You're going to say thank you afterwards.
This is one of the sickest specials I've ever watched.
And it's one of those things that I'll be recommending.
In 30 years, there's a lot of specials that you won't recommend after a year or two years or five years or 10 years.
In 30 years, this will be recommended to husbands and wives because what he talks about in there is evergreen permanently.
Of course, unless if AI comes out and we're no longer all of a sudden, you know, it is.
