Musk & Trump X Spaces, RFK & Kamala Cabinet Job, Nord Stream Pipeline Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 456
Patrick Bet-David, Vincent Oshana, Tom Ellsworth, and Adam Sosnick recap Trump and Elon Musk's X Spaces, reports RFK Jr. is lobbying for a cabinet position with Kamala Harris, and Ukraine's involvement in the Nord Stream Pipeline explosion!
00:00 - Podcast intro
00:25 - PBD explains why the podcast was on break for the past two weeks.
01:17 - Patrick previews the stories coming up on today's podcast.
06:01 - Patrick announces the NEW Future Looks Bright Slides available at VTMerch.com: https://bit.ly/4cqrW8A
09:48 - Joe Rogan Clarifies That He Has NOT Endorsed RFK
26:20 - Robert F. Kennedy Jr. tried to meet with Kamala Harris to discuss Cabinet job
42:02 - Trump and Musk do X Spaces Event that gets a BILLION impressions.
1:02:36 - Kamala Harris leading Donald Trump in several polls for the 2024 election.
1:10:00 - Whistleblower: Tulsi Gabbard Named on TSA "Quiet Skies” Watchlist
1:22:18 - Mark Cuban: Trump’s Silicon Valley backers have ‘lost the connection to real world’
1:38:04 - Bad Managers Are Reason Enough To Quit, According To LinkedIn
1:46:09 - Suddenly, Hourly Workers Aren’t So Hard to Find
1:52:02 - Google’s former CEO says the tech giant is losing out to OpenAI and Anthropic because staff are working from home
1:57:45 - UK police commissioner threatens to extradite, jail US citizens over online posts: ‘We’ll come after you’
2:14:33 - Iran Appears to Walk Back Threats of Retaliation Against Israel
2:24:35 - WSJ reports Ukraine was behind the Nord Stream Pipeline Explosion.
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Patrick Bet-David, Vincent Oshana, Tom Ellsworth, and Adam Sosnick recap Trump and Elon Musk's X Spaces, reports RFK Jr. is lobbying for a cabinet position with Kamala Harris, and Ukraine's involvement in the Nord Stream Pipeline explosion!
00:00 - Podcast intro
00:25 - PBD explains why the podcast was on break for the past two weeks.
01:17 - Patrick previews the stories coming up on today's podcast.
06:01 - Patrick announces the NEW Future Looks Bright Slides available at VTMerch.com: https://bit.ly/4cqrW8A
09:48 - Joe Rogan Clarifies That He Has NOT Endorsed RFK
26:20 - Robert F. Kennedy Jr. tried to meet with Kamala Harris to discuss Cabinet job
42:02 - Trump and Musk do X Spaces Event that gets a BILLION impressions.
1:02:36 - Kamala Harris leading Donald Trump in several polls for the 2024 election.
1:10:00 - Whistleblower: Tulsi Gabbard Named on TSA "Quiet Skies” Watchlist
1:22:18 - Mark Cuban: Trump’s Silicon Valley backers have ‘lost the connection to real world’
1:38:04 - Bad Managers Are Reason Enough To Quit, According To LinkedIn
1:46:09 - Suddenly, Hourly Workers Aren’t So Hard to Find
1:52:02 - Google’s former CEO says the tech giant is losing out to OpenAI and Anthropic because staff are working from home
1:57:45 - UK police commissioner threatens to extradite, jail US citizens over online posts: ‘We’ll come after you’
2:14:33 - Iran Appears to Walk Back Threats of Retaliation Against Israel
2:24:35 - WSJ reports Ukraine was behind the Nord Stream Pipeline Explosion.
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456.
The last time we did a podcast was two weeks ago.
And, you know, Tuesday, I wasn't on the pod for many reasons.
I don't know what stories these guys told you.
I'm sure Adam told you I was at a cat conference.
Conspiracy theories.
All these other stories.
But all I know is I'm glad to be back with everybody.
We had a massive convention the week before at MGM Grant.
It was a phenomenal one.
Great experience.
Proud of the guys over there.
And now here Thursday with a lot of, I feel like, honestly, I feel like there's six months of stories we haven't covered.
I miss you.
I can't wait to talk to you wherever you are, whether you're in the car listening to this, you're at work shaking your head to your boss like you're working, or even if you're in the bathroom, if you're in the bathroom watching to this, much love to all of you wherever you are.
Got a couple crazy things I'm going to announce to you here today, but stories.
Just so you know, Rob, do we want to do this?
I know you're watching this.
What if I told you I can in the next 60 seconds recite every single one of yours actual social security number?
Would you believe me?
Did you hear about what happened?
Yep.
Everyone's social security number was released, which means you got to call your bank.
You got to go run a credit the next 30, 60, 90 days, probably for the rest of the year to make sure nothing crazy is being done.
Get one of those alerts.
This is not a sponsor.
I don't even know, I'm not even giving you a name.
Call, ask what is the best alert to put on my credit to know when somebody runs a credit.
I get an alert.
Do that ASAP, whatever.
Call your bank and ask them.
Do that ASAP.
Apparently, everyone's, I don't know, 4 billion social security.
How many social security numbers was it, Tom?
It was, well, it's at least 330 million active.
And I'm hearing that it was like half a billion.
2.7 billion.
Because there's a lot of dead people.
And then I don't know how you get to it.
It's 2.7 billion records.
2.7 billion records and 500 million numbers.
I got you.
Well, that's a lot.
I mean, that's a lot.
Because listen, dead people can have credit.
Why can't dead people can do a lot of things, Tom?
If you follow the history of different things, that people have a lot of value.
Let's continue.
Joe Rogan clarifies that he has not endorsed RFK.
It feels like a month ago.
I haven't responded to it.
RFK tries to meet Kamala Harris to discuss cabinet job.
I got a message for RFK.
I could be very helpful to you.
That was actually very awkward, Tom.
Rob, tell me that wasn't an appropriate.
We thought he was here and he was inappropriate.
Last time you guys got upset for me saying something to Tom, tell me that's not a take away 15,000 subs from Tom.
Go to his channel and unsubscribe if you're upset at him.
Tom, I have your back.
Don't worry, man.
It's okay.
No, that was RFK talking about it.
So whistleblower Tulsa Yabbard named on TSA Quiet Sky's watch list.
Bad managers are reasons enough to quit, according to LinkedIn.
More women are skipping college to make six figures as electricians, car mechanics, and truck drivers.
U.S. colleges are cutting majors and slashing programs after years of putting it off.
Kamala Harris, is she going to go campaign?
Is she not going to talk to anybody?
Mark Cuban goes on Jon Stewart to promote Twitter and X.
He is officially in love with Elon Musk so much that he's going on a tour to promote how awesome X is.
Obviously, it's sarcasm.
He went on Jon Stewart to try to trash Elon, but it ended up backfiring and it actually brought a lot of eyeballs to X. Very sweet of him to do so.
Suddenly, hourly workers aren't so hard to find, according to WSJ.
CNN effectively worthless after parent Warner Brothers takes $9.1 billion write down.
Google former CEO says the tech giant is losing out to OpenAI because staff are working from home.
By the way, he said that in an interview a few hours later, he walked it back a little bit.
I wonder why.
I'm sure Tom's got some thoughts on this.
Nikki Haley urges Trump to quit whining about Kamala Harris.
She's not going to give you an interview, give an interview.
Believe me, we are asking CNN Dana Bash bristles as JD Vance asks why Kamala hasn't done an interview in weeks.
UK Police Commissioner threatens to extradite jail U.S. citizens over online posts.
Will come after you.
24 hours, Kamala Harris has not done a press conference.
Home Depot cut sales outlook.
Mortgage refinance surges 35% in one week as interest rates hit lowest in over a year.
Middle and low-income Americans running out of disposable cash.
And we got a few other stories we'll get into.
Couple videos.
Thomas Crooks, guess what this guy does on Christmas, Valentine's Day, and Halloween.
Vinny's going to tell you here in a minute.
And then I think we got a couple other things.
By the way, there's a new, this was actually very impressive, what you showed me.
I don't know if you guys have seen this or not.
Do you guys have any plans of playing somebody better than you in chess?
If you do and you want to beat them, we don't recommend or endorse it at all, but there's this guy, girl, that used it that little creepy, like a lot of creepy.
And if there's ever been a dumb time to do something like this, not thinking there's cameras around, it's today, but maybe nobody told her that billions of cameras are everywhere nowadays.
She didn't think it was possible that she was going to get caught.
Now, having said that, let me get into a couple different things.
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I'm excited about what's going on here.
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I don't know if you have them or not.
Did you get them?
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I thought I airdropped them to you.
Let me send them to your MacBook.
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Are you serious?
Yeah, Rob, did it go through or no, no, no, no.
It's taking a second to download, but I'll have them check it out.
Okay, don't worry.
I'll show it to you here in a minute.
Anyways, once they go to Rob, we'll show it to you.
Here's what we got today.
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Why is it that so limited and all this other stuff?
Look, it is what it is.
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All right, let's go through the first story.
Here's the first story I want to go with.
First of all, Joe Rogan clarifies that he has not endorsed RFK.
Okay?
He gets on a video, and on this video, he says, he's the only guy that seems like he's not calling anybody out.
If you want to pull it up, Rob, he's not calling anybody out.
Just play the clip.
We'll go from here.
That's politics.
They do it on the left.
They do it on the right.
They gaslight you.
They manipulate you.
They promote narratives.
And the only one who's not doing that is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
You a fan?
Yeah, I am a fan.
Yeah, he's the only one that makes sense to me.
He's the only one that he doesn't attack people.
He attacks actions and ideas.
But he's much more reasonable and intelligent.
I mean, the guy was an environmental attorney and cleaned up the East River.
He's a legitimate guy.
You know, before anybody started calling him an anti-vaxxer, which I thought he was too.
I thought he was this nut, this like conspiracy theorist nut until I read his book.
I read The Real Anthony Fauci, and I'm like, what is how much of this is real?
Because if it's all real, this is fucking insane.
And we live in a world where we're being manipulated by these health organizations that are being paid by the pharmaceutical drug interests.
And these pharmaceutical drug companies are pumping these products out into the population and telling us that we need them and then making insane amounts of money.
So he makes this comment.
Trump comes out with a tweet.
Trump says, I wonder what the fans are going to react when he walks into the next UFC.
I'm sure you guys, did you guys read that on the unusual suspect?
You know, how they're going to react when they walk in.
Just go to images, Rob.
It'll pop up if you go to images.
And, you know, he makes these comments.
And then Rogan comes back and says, I'm not endorsing RFK.
All I'm doing is, you know, he says, that's not an endorsement, Claire for ZarfK is likes RFK as a person.
Confusion over Rogan's position on election arose following Tuesday during the appearance.
Kennedy Differentiate for the record, this isn't an endorsement.
This is me saying that I like RFK Jr. as a person, and I really appreciate the way he discusses things with civility and intelligence.
I think we could use more of this in this world.
I also think Trump raising his fist and saying fight after getting shot is one of the most American effing things of all time.
Okay, so that's that.
Back and forth.
And then it'll be interesting to see how loudly Joe Rogan gets booted next time he enters the UFC ring.
And you know what Joe Rogan does?
Joe Rogan goes, by the way, kill Tony.
Tony Hinchcliffe is killing it.
That's exactly what he's doing.
The guy's on freaking fire, selling out arenas with his show that he's doing.
I think he's got the best comedy show on podcasts in the world.
Apparently, Kill Tony.
Yeah.
But Rogan posts a picture, maybe one of the best pictures he's posted on Instagram.
If you go to Rogan's Instagram, this is why Rogan understands the simple concept of humor.
And if you look at the picture that he posts, he posts a picture saying, don't worry, we got it scored away.
Me and Trump are good.
And what was it?
A picture of him and Shane Gillis.
Right?
And it gets a half a million likes and everybody laughs and everybody moves on.
The power of humor, right?
When this takes place.
When an exchange like this happens, Vinny, how do you process this?
When that happened with Joe, you know, RFK, Trump, back and forth, Shane Gillis humor.
How do you process it?
Okay, so I'm going to take a couple of different angles because I know exactly where Joe Rogan is a grown man.
He could say what he wants, who he likes, and it shouldn't really bother anybody.
On the other side, I could see the Trump people, because mind you, when this happened, you have no idea how many messages I got because I tried to play devil's advocate, PBD.
You have to understand, coming from Trump, Trump hearing him saying, all these people gaslight you.
He said, all of them.
So that includes Donald Trump.
So he lumped him in there.
And he said, all these people do this.
And the only one, and it's not attacking people.
The only one that's not doing it is RFK.
From Donald Trump's point of view, you know, he's a loyalist.
Joe Rogan doesn't own anything.
But if you think about it, he's had, Joe Rogan has had how many years now?
Seven years.
Trump has shown through and throughout that he is exactly what the country needs.
All the stuff that they did to him with CNN and turning his color green for COVID, they did all that with Trump.
They've been going after Trump this whole time.
So I think Trump felt like, hey, listen, I've been nothing but, I've proved myself through and through.
When I see you at the UFC, I shake your hand.
I give you respect.
Even all that.
You haven't put me on your podcast.
You don't even want to have me on your podcast.
He said in the past he doesn't want to.
So being Trump, I'm thinking as Trump, being the loyalist pen, he wants loyalty.
Again, he doesn't owe it to him.
But I feel like for him to come out after everything that Trump has bled, he was shot in the head and getting to the point where he's shown you all this love and everything.
For you to still say, like, I'm gaslighting and I'm attacking, the same people that are attacking you have been attacking me for seven years.
So I feel like Donald Trump, by the way, not a good move.
I don't agree with it.
I don't think coming out there and saying something like that, you could have said something like, hey, listen, not cool, Joe.
I've been over here for you the whole time.
I'm not a gaslighter.
I'm not like that.
But, you know, that's how Trump rolls, bro.
That's how I feel.
I think, you know, you look at it, and I thought Rogan was making a very casual point, a clear point.
I read the book.
You read RFK's book on Fauci.
We know how Rogan feels about vaccinations.
Everything went along with that.
And he's talking about that.
And he said, I found a reasonable guy.
But right now, we are at the height of sensitivity.
And we are in the middle of incredibly hot media and trying to figure out, you know, is the Kamala bounce that we're seeing in the polls, is it really only 12%?
Is it more than that?
There is such a backstory going on here.
And I think Trump is very, his ears are hypersensitive right now to what he's hearing from people.
And I don't know if it was the best move to kind of come out on Rogan like that, but I don't think Rogan meant ill will, trying to besmirch him.
And I applaud Rogan for coming back and saying, hey, I wasn't endorsing him.
This is what I was doing.
So I thought Rogan was just trying not to keep it flamed, but to kind of get it to calm down and clear up.
But let me ask you a question on the top.
Do you feel like Trump is a little bit perturbed that the number one podcast?
I know he's flip-flopping back and forth with Tucker, that he hasn't, necessarily endorsed him, but have him on the podcast, have a conversation with him.
So publicly come out and say, no, I'm not interested in giving him a podcast at all.
You don't feel like that kind of thing.
And again, I'm not agreeing.
I don't like what Trump did.
I know there's people out there like, oh, brainwash you, whatever.
No, no, it's not a good move.
He had no reason to, why do that?
It's almost as if a Gen Z person got on the phone and texted him.
You don't think it bothers him that he hasn't even invited him in on this podcast?
I can't speak to the Trump campaign strategy for where they're going to be interviewing, what the media travel plan is.
Right now, Kamala Harris doesn't sit down with anybody.
So I can't say who's thinking what and who's concerned.
There's a lot of open chairs with a lot of very influential podcasts that could really help this election and help a strategy.
And so I think Trump could be a lot of places.
I can't read into what he may or may not have been thinking about Rogan's scheduling and whether Trump's even available where he was going about him.
So the question I think we need to ask is: was this a good move or a bad move for Trump to respond viciously to Joe Rogan?
I would say it's a stupid move, President Trump.
Why make Joe Rogan an enemy at all?
Joe Rogan was a Bernie Sanders guy eight years ago, and he's inched closer and closer and closer and closer to your world.
You know, many people think that Joe Rogan is a right-wing kook.
He's not.
He's a free thinker.
He's an independent.
He's a libertarian, probably, that likes to shoot guns, eat venison and meat, and smoke weed and do his thing.
And certainly we know about UFC.
Why at all have an issue with Rogan?
How does that help you increase voters?
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
It doesn't at all.
And it ruins your relationship with Dana.
Because now you put Dana White in an awkward position because he walks in with the guy and he works for him.
And not a good move.
You know, we had a conversation.
We have a bet whether Trump is going to go on Rogan.
We'll see.
Does this accelerate that?
This does not.
No, it does not.
I'm so mad.
Let me just go.
You don't think this accelerates it?
No.
Oh, accelerated to not to go on.
Oh, this, I think, hinders it.
It's the opposite.
Really?
I think it's completely the opposite.
I'll tell you why.
Let me tell you why.
You have no idea how the perfect storm happened.
What is the perfect storm?
Everybody follows someone's lead.
Okay.
And Joe is gifted because he's hypersensitive.
The hypersensitive people, we link hypersensitivity as a negative thing.
Okay.
Obviously, there's hypersensitive, super insecure, lazy.
That's dangerous.
Right?
Did you understand those three?
Yes.
Hypersensitive, you know, insecure and lazy is very dangerous, those three.
Hypersensitivity with you're comfortable in your own skin and you're driven.
That's Michael.
Super hypersensitive.
Are you kidding me?
He still doesn't talk to Scotty or Charles Barkley.
Your best friend.
What did Barkley do?
All he didn't do his job.
You realize why they're not speaking?
He explained why they didn't speak.
Because Barkley went and worked for TNT, said a couple words about Michael.
That's the last time he spoke.
Done deal.
How dare you cut me like that?
Trump, hyper-sensitive.
How dare you say something like this about me?
Okay?
Hypersensitive.
Who else do you know that's hypersensitive?
Think about the people you know that are hypersensitive, but they have the ultimate trifecta.
Hypersensitive, confident, and driven.
Okay?
Tiger Woods.
Don't say nothing about him or his coach when he was at his playing piece.
I know.
There you go, him as well.
So Rogan is hypersensitive.
He's secure.
And he's driven.
You don't have to make this guy work.
Who just did the biggest podcast in the history of mankind?
Elon and Trump on the table.
Elon Musk has officially done the biggest podcast in the history of mankind ever.
It's done.
He broke the record.
Yeah.
Okay.
A billion views.
He put the number up.
You understand what that means?
So guess what?
Joe doesn't now have to worry about anybody saying, you helped Trump get elected.
Now Joe can just go and do it and say, well, he must do it.
I'm just doing a regular podcast.
It's not going to get a billion views because Joe doesn't have 190 million followers on Twitter and X. Musk does.
Joe's not worth $250 billion.
Joe's a billionaire.
If he's not a billionaire, he's going to be there in the next 24 months if he's not there right now.
I'm just saying he's a billionaire because if he's not, it's because he doesn't give a shit about being a billionaire, but he's going to be a billionaire.
You know, Musk has got a mission he's on.
Joe's not on a mission.
Joe's enjoying his life, right?
And his mission is a different mission that he's got.
One is trying to go land on the moon.
One is trying to keep humanization.
Joe is just kind of trying to have the conversation, enjoy his life, be a good father, do his best as a human being.
That's what he's trying to do.
So I actually think this perfect storm of this feud happening with RFK, with Musk having Trump on, accelerated the process of him getting on.
And on top of this, guess what the conversation is right now behind closed doors?
That Trump's campaign managers are about to get fired.
And Trump is potentially having a conversation with bringing Kellyanne Conway as a campaign manager.
Bringing her back?
Bringing her back.
And by the way, Kellyanne is, to me, is a stud of a person.
We've dealt with some of the campaign managers on the inside.
Here's a problem when you have a campaign manager on the inside that are sensitive, and I'm not saying they are, but an article was written about a year ago, okay?
And one of our guys wrote the article.
And this article gets posted.
WTF, what is this all about?
What do you mean?
One of the guys wrote the article.
The article alluded to something about some investment that was raised years back.
Wasn't a positive article about somebody.
Bone.
Unfollow, silence, everything.
Okay.
So no problem.
This is when the call is happening that something may happen for conversation.
And then I'm at all the Republican presidential debates and everything.
And I'm running into these guys and I'm just seeing how they're processing issues.
Okay.
And I'm sitting with Chris Pavlowski from Rumble, who's, by the way, the guy is freaking kicking ass.
I love that guy.
Very happy for the guy, what he's doing.
Good for him.
I hope Rumble becomes a $100 billion company and they whoop some ass and they compete.
And love the fire.
I think he's the right guy for the job and he's doing a good job.
So keep at it.
So we're sitting, we're meeting around these people.
As a campaign manager, this is what you have to be careful with.
There is a difference between you not doing something because of your ego that hurts the chances of the person you're representing.
For example, I have this conversation with Sam all the time.
Handlers have a lot of power.
Campaign managers have a lot of power.
What do handlers do?
Let me explain what a handler can do.
How much power does a handler have?
A lot because any conversation that you should or shouldn't have, they're making that decision of who you should talk to and who you should.
They have one thing that is more powerful than anything, and that is access.
Yeah, handling you.
Access to whoever they're trying to reach, whether they control the calendar and the agenda of who talks to the person they're handling.
What are the worst handlers?
The ones that let their personal opinions and their views get involved with who you should be talking to.
Let me put it to you.
If your handler, after meeting people through you, is the first to post a picture of the person they just met, it's about fame.
Yeah, right.
Why are you sharing the pictures of who you just met?
You're a handler.
They forget they're a handler.
Your job is to be a handler.
You chose this job.
Don't do this job if you want to be famous and cool.
Jon Amendes, one of the best things she ever told me, this the former chief disguise officer, the CIA, when I asked her, repeated, this was one of the best things ever said on an interview I ever did.
I said, what's the great quality of a CIA agent?
I said, is it to be charming?
Is it to be charismatic?
Is it to be a great salesperson?
Is it to be a good negotiator?
Is it to be, what is it?
It says, is it to be driven?
Is it to be competitive?
He said, it's all of that plus one thing.
I said, what's that?
Have I told you this story?
I was going to guess.
Let me tell you what she said.
I've told you this story.
Here's what she said.
It gave me the chills all over my life.
I was in front of the White House when I interviewed her.
With the set on the back as a White House.
If you actually go to this, Rob, type in Jonah Mendes by David.
She says, they have to be charming, charismatic, all this other stuff.
But one thing is very important.
They don't need any recognition.
And if they save the free world, they don't have to tell anybody about it.
That's the podcast.
White House is right behind us.
Oh, that's a sick.
Can you go to the picture that shows up?
The White House, Rob?
You just had it right there.
One of the takes shows.
That's the White House right behind us.
So she says they don't have to tell anybody about it.
Sometimes handlers want to act like it's cool that they're on the inside to be with Trump.
You have to fire those handlers.
This is not about being cool.
A proper person doesn't have to be impressed that they're around you, that they have to brag about it.
Kellyanne Conway is fantastic because she's been around so many big personalities.
It's like, listen, I respect you.
I'm doing the job because I'm doing it for America.
So I think right now, with the perfect storm of Musk just having Trump on, of his feud with Trump over RFK, of the campaign managers potentially getting fired and being replaced by somebody else, and to top it off, you know, RFK goes and has a meeting with Kamala Harris's team for a job on the campaign.
I think all of these things accelerated the chances of.
Is that story accurate?
Did he actually meet with her?
Well, there were reports.
This is WAPO.
WAPO.
This is WAPO.
Okay.
So R.F. Kennedy tried to meet Kamala Harris to discuss a cabinet challenge.
Really?
Go through it.
So here's a story of he wants to meet with no.
Now, do me a favor, go to his Twitter account while I'm reading this, Rob, to see if he answered to this question.
RFK sought a meeting with Kamala Harris to discuss potentially joining her cabinet if he endorses our campaign.
Harris's team have not endorsed proposal Kennedy's previously attempted similar talks with Donald Trump with no agreement reached.
Kennedy's campaign claims that his endorsement would boost Harris or Trump across 31 states.
However, his standing in national polls has dropped since Joe Biden exited the race from 9 to 5%.
Despite this, Kennedy is still actively campaigning, but is open to other avenues to influence change.
Kennedy's outreach to Democrats, including attempts through Hollywood intermediaries and Biden allies, has largely been ignored with Democrat insiders dismissing him as a mega-funded fringe candidate.
Is that his response to it?
Yes.
Okay, so let's go through it.
So, VP Harris Democratic Party would be unrecognizable to my father and uncle, and I cannot reconcile my values.
The Democratic Party, our RFK and JFK, was the party of civil liberties and free speech.
VP Harris's party of censorship and lockdowns and medical coercion.
Kennedy Democrats were anti-war.
Kamalas riddled with neocon warmongers.
The RFK JFK Dems were allied of main street cops, firefighters, and working people.
VP Harris is the party of big tech, big farmer on Wall Street.
My dad and uncle's party was a champion of voting rights and fair election.
VP Series' party of lawfare disenfranchisement and coordination of its candidate by corporate donors and party elites.
I've used our nation's court to prosecute corporations who hurt black Americans.
VP Harris used our nation's course to mercilessly prosecute black Americans and exploit them for their labor.
My father and uncle prided themselves on their skills at debates and their ability to articulate a coherent vision for our country.
VP Harris is scared to debate and can't survive an unscripted interview.
Instead of outlining a vision, she replies, relies on home middle school tactics, memes, forge headlines, infantile slogans, joy, and name-calling Republicans.
That's weird.
I've spent years battling government corruption and lies.
VP Harris spent years gaslighting Americans about the health of our commander-in-chief.
I have no plans to endorse Kamala Harris for president.
I do have a plan to defeat her.
Boom.
Is he accurate?
So let me ask you.
No, no, hang on.
Let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
Sure.
This is really the only question.
Okay.
What's the percentage you believe he directly or indirectly or sending a handler went to Kamala Harris's camp to talk about a potentially job to negotiate with them?
No.
Are you at zero?
I'm going to go.
You're at zero?
Very low.
Rob?
Very low.
I'm also at zero.
I have a clip I can play you, which is why.
Very low.
Are you at zero?
I mean, you never know.
2%?
Tom, where are you at?
I'm at 25%, and they told them to F off, and that led to the last sentence of that because everything in there was true.
And then the last sentence, I have no plans.
But did you have a plan last week?
Were you thinking about, hey, my voice needs to be heard.
I want to be relevant.
I think there's a 25% chance he went in there.
And they told him to stuff it.
And then he's like, okay, if you had to put a percentage.
I fully disagree.
Well, but madam, you're saying zero means 100% zero.
You're right.
That's what I said.
You're saying you're right.
Let's see what he has to say.
I want to hear it.
I agree.
I wouldn't say zero because, you know, the margin of error, you know, 2% would have been.
Very low.
Think about it from Kamala Harris's position.
You don't think she wants his 5%, 10%, 15%, whatever the hell he's pulling at?
You think that she's too good for that?
By the way, don't look now.
She's just quote-unquote tied, surpassed right there with Trump at this point, even though she hasn't said a word.
Maybe.
Trump and Kamala, whatever you think, would be very smart to cozy up to this man.
This man is smart.
He's informed.
He's a fighter.
He knows what the hell he's talking about.
To get him on your team, how much money would you pay for that?
What kind of campaign advisor budget would you put together to get RFK on your squad?
I think he'd be way more aligned with Trump than with Kamala.
So that's why I asked him, I posed the question at the beginning: do you think that story is even true?
I don't see him actually in a sense like that before.
This is the day after Joe Biden announced that he was stepping down and not continuing to seek the office of president in 2024.
And Kamala was the nominee.
Okay, go ahead.
You know, Kamala Harris is the party of war.
She is a warhog on war.
The Democratic Party was always the peace party.
Kamala Harris is a warhog on Ukraine.
She's a war hawk on China.
I think that we should be figuring out ways to coexist with the rest of the world as best we can.
Course, we need to protect our national security.
I think she's not going to do anything about the national deficit.
I've never heard her speak about the chronic disease epidemic.
I think she's a product of the corporate control of our democracy.
And she's one of the authors of, in terms of civil rights, she has one of the worst civil rights record of any public official.
She's the author of the one of the primary authors of the school-to-prison pipeline.
She kept 5,000 people despite a Supreme Court order that she released 5,000 prisoners of nonviolent drug crimes who were ill.
Tom, I'm not coming to you first, but Vinny, go ahead.
What do you?
Well, I mean, again, who knows?
At the end of the day, we can't say 100%.
But I mean, I'm thinking, I went to the Trump side.
You think after, because, you know, Trump had that call with them that was leaked.
Somebody recorded him talking about it.
You think after that, Trump is even considering bringing this guy on board on him after he found out that he might have been going to Commonwealth to try?
Yes.
If he was smart.
Well, I mean, you're saying Trump may not want him on the business.
I say if Trump found out, think about this.
Look at how he responded to Joe Rook.
That's not how life works.
You don't think?
Let me tell you how business works.
Listen, I'm in the convention last week, okay, with my key leaders.
And, you know, there are certain things when you look at everybody, and I have a score for them, and they have a score for me.
Here's how life works.
My guys, when you're around business for a long time, I have stuff on my, some of my guys who left me and are not with me, who are very good with me, because whatever they did, I've never told anybody.
And I knew, I've never told anybody.
They left, they trashed me, never told anybody.
Personal stuff, never told anybody.
Okay.
So while you're transitioning with the move that you're going right now, I know what's going to happen.
Okay.
Some people only look at you as, man, I can make a lot of money with this guy.
And they're loyal to you while you're there, that they can monetize you.
And then all of a sudden with that move, they're like, oh, my loyalty has to move over here because to my money.
And you'll feel that.
And it's awkward because some of the guys, you're like, I did the most for that guy.
And they gradually kind of become like this with you.
Okay, cool.
Some of the guys, they've always been the same with you.
Some of the guys, you never knew they were the most loyal to you.
But at a time like this, you realize, wow, you were the one most loyal.
That's pretty crazy.
But guess what?
You have to manage our relationships.
So for Trump, for a guy that's on the other side, you look at everybody in the room and you have a score for everybody on how much you trust them.
It's very simple.
So for example, say, oh, I would never trust you around my daughters.
I would never trust you on my family.
I would never trust you with my money.
I would never trust you with a top secret.
I would never, because I always know you always make a decision for what's best for you, not what's best for the company.
So if I tell you something about one of our employees, you'll go tell her what I just told you to protect her career, not my career, not the boss's career.
So you're not a company person.
You're a person that's protecting people that are helping you, not me.
Totally.
Now I know.
Make sense?
But we can still coexist.
It's uncomfortable.
It's weird.
But Trump knows how to do this.
Anybody that's ran a big organization knows you don't have 100% of 100% of people.
You're delusional if you do.
If you think and expect that from everybody, you will build a very small organization.
Now, here's how this also works.
So you'll have people in the military.
What's the highest level of secret clearance you got?
TS.
TS would look higher than that.
I mean, it's like different levels of TA, but it's up there.
What level of top secret levels are?
Can you pull it up?
Like, I know it's TS with like no boundaries or something on it.
Then there's just secret.
Then there's like classified.
There's a men in black.
But what are the levels?
Okay.
Are there levels?
I guarantee you.
Yeah, there's definitely levels.
New secret clearance, six to eight months for a new top secret clearance.
It's a sensitive component on CSI.
So there you go.
So what's the point?
In your team, as it gets more secret stuff that you're working on, the room gets what?
Smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller.
RFK, if he's on the camp, he may be in the third room or the fourth room or the fifth room, but there's no way he's on the ninth room where the room is only three people.
Yeah.
So yes, RFK has got a place on the team.
He just doesn't have it in the room.
That's the fine.
Because say you and I talk about something that happened.
Okay.
Say the five of us have a call together.
Okay.
After the five of us have a call together, then two of us have a call together.
Then after two of us have a call together, then what happens?
One of us have a call together.
That one is the highest secret clearance.
He won't be that because of what he did with the recording.
However, he's still got a big job to play.
So RFK, if I'm RFK and I'm going from nine to four, I fully believe he's a true believer.
Till today, nothing's changed with me on the way I view him.
I think he's a full-blown true believer.
I think the RFK father and the brother stuff that you see is 100% true.
I think he can't stand what Fauci did.
I think he can't stand what CDC did.
I think he can't stand any of that stuff that took place.
And I think he wants to finish his job, get in there and do something about it.
But unfortunately, the toughest thing to realize sometimes is: guess what?
America doesn't want you as the president right now.
Not majority.
And you may think you'd make a hell of a good one, but that's not how a free market works.
Guess what?
Who's the number one podcast in the world?
Why is that?
Because the market wants to listen to people.
Because if your market's saying that, well, some people will say, we're the number one podcast in the world.
According to who your mother, according to your wife, according to your girlfriend?
Because according to the numbers, Joe Rogan's the number one podcast in the world.
The market dictates where you rank, not you.
And it's tough for RFK to choose that.
Some people are role players.
When Carmelo Anthony and AI, you know, in Westbroke, and the only guy who had the brass to eventually say this name was Paul George, who runs one of the best podcasts out there with Dallas Rutherford, the son of an incredible man whom I love that family.
Paul George, we all know Paul George, one of the best players of all time.
The guy broke his freaking leg on the Indiana Pacers.
You're like, he's done.
Comes back and whoops some major ass.
You know what he said in an interview?
I can never win a championship as a number one.
What?
You've been a best player on every team you've played your entire career until you go with Kwai Leonard and you said you can't win a championship as a number one?
He's right.
Yeah.
RFK can't win a championship as a number one.
And I hate to say it.
At first, I thought maybe he's going to break some stuff, but he's going to kind of break some barriers and get through it.
I think he needs the right person to make a call to only one camp, that he can play a lot of impact, and hopefully he can increase his trust level with Trump without having one of those incidents happen again.
Because one thing with Trump is he may come after you, but I think Trump's also quick to forgive and move on because he's had to do that for his entire life and he's had to expect other people to forgive him.
Thoughts?
I'll open it up.
Anybody, time to do it.
I would say one thing.
Both camps would be very smart to try to get this guy in their team.
Because if you look at 538, if you just want to use some cumulative data, he's trending at 5%.
Ross Perot was at, what, 19% in 92, Pat?
Right?
That's the highest third party.
We thought this guy was going to be a third-party candidate, like trailblazer that we've never seen.
This is a guy who's going to disrupt the election.
But 5% is still 5%.
You think 5% could sway the election one way or another?
You betcha.
So I think there's a, I won't say zero, a less than 1% chance that he does anything with the Democratic Party, especially after that tweet where you just cooked him.
I would give a 20% chance that he does something with Trump.
But it has to happen, but it has to happen sooner than later.
I think he has to be intentional about it.
The right person needs to make the phone call and present the facts.
RFK needs to have the right person make the phone call, present the facts, create the meeting.
And I swear to God, if any of it gets leaked, it's done.
It's done.
It has to be such a strategic.
Yeah, but I think it's the right move for him.
If he's for the cause, if you're for your name and selling more books and all that other stuff, stay in the race.
If you truly, RFK, are for the cause, the right person's got to make the call to Trump's camp.
If you truly are for the cause.
And I think you are, if you truly are for the cause.
I agree with what you said.
And I still believe that there is a 20% chance that he reached out because health and human services, he would be huge in his mind because he's a believer and he's fact-based and he's got all this research.
And I believe he really wants to make an impact, RFK.
And I think there is a 20% chance that he reached out to the campaign to Kamala's campaign.
To Kamala's campaign.
And he wants to talk health and human services.
And I've seen the polling data.
The people that were moderate leaners on the left, just moderate leaners, those independents went to Camela on identity politics.
In other words, they weren't really full-on independent with RFK Jr.
You know what I mean?
They were there.
Well, I'm not voting for Biden, so I'll go with RFK Jr.
Oh my gosh, we have this.
Oh, come on.
And so they went back the other way.
That's where he went from 8%, 9% nationally, because it was significant, and now it's back right within the norm that you would normally see.
But that's why I think he did it.
And I think, you know, I'll always think that because I think he's a true believer and he was trying to find a position where he can make an impact.
Okay, cool.
All right.
So Musk Trump do a spaces together.
First hour doesn't work.
Media reacts.
A false start.
Newsome jumped on top of it, begging for it.
What's going on here?
You know, X doesn't have bandwidth.
Just like his campaign.
Look what's going on.
The last time this happened, DeSantis, his campaign failed.
This time, Trump's campaign is going to fail.
Right.
Okay, cool.
So they finally do it.
Okay.
And it ends up being how long, Rob?
Do you have the exact timeline?
It was three hours and 16 minutes total with the delay.
So imagine he sat there for three hours and 16 minutes.
And what did they talk about?
They talked about, you know, illegal immigration.
They talked about what were you going to say before you were rudely interrupted by an assassination attempt, right?
Which was a funny line that Musk said.
You know, record-breaking illegal immigration in any country.
They talked about that.
I beat him so bad, I won the election.
Okay, he's still kind of going back to election interference.
Told China, if you buy oil from Iran, you will not do any business with the U.S. Iran no longer has money for Hamas or Hezbollah at the time when he was negotiating.
Now they got a bunch of money.
Biggest threat isn't global warming.
Nuclear warming, which was very interesting when Musk kind of took the position of climate change.
And he's like, well, there's something going on there, but it's not the solution that they're taking.
He kind of took that route.
And there was a part where, you know, Trump said, Look, I understand your company and the product in Tesla and what you're doing.
The car is a great car.
But guess what?
We still need gas-driven cars.
And he kind of went through that.
And by the way, Elon didn't correct him.
Elon actually doubled down and says, You're right.
There is a need for the oil and gas industry.
And that was very interesting on the way.
This is why Elon's got, by the way, if Elon was a U.S. citizen, just check it off.
Just like Leela.
Don, if that guy was a U.S. citizen.
And then biggest threat doesn't go over.
He has a low IQ 30 years ago.
He's talking about Biden.
He had a low IQ 30 years ago, although he may have no IQ today.
All these lines that he says, you have a great product.
That doesn't mean everyone should have an electric car, but I have to give you credit.
She's considered more progressive than Bernie Sanders, Kamala.
Musk endorsed Trump.
He started selling the dream, et cetera, et cetera, which was great.
And by the way, if you remember a couple days ago on Twitter, not even a couple, this was the day where Trump got upset.
Rob, can you go to Twitter on the tweet I had the day he got upset at Rogan and I posted something?
And I said, focus on selling the dream like you did before.
I think that's what I said.
Can you zoom in?
The one that's weird.
You go look the there it is.
But it's go lower than that.
That's after he said it when I tweeted that.
Go lower, go lower, go lower, lower, lower, go lower, lower, lower, lower.
Keep going.
Oh, that was the yeah, that's what I said right there, Ken Magatrim.
And this is where I talked about the fact that, you know, when he went after Rogan, and the main message was sell the dream.
So at the end, I don't know if you guys caught it at the end.
Did you listen to the whole life?
Yeah, I think I bought you no.
When he started selling the dream, it was a beautiful thing.
He says, look, at the end of the day, America's about the dream.
That's great that he's talking about the dream.
But it was an incredible, incredible spectacle.
Now, Megan Kelly said it was boring.
I don't know if you saw that.
Megan Kelly said it was boring.
Some people said he was rambling.
Some people said he had a lisp.
Some people said he had this thing going on.
What was this?
How did you process it?
Well, I actually, because I watched the whole thing, I just took a bunch of notes.
I just, just off the rip, okay, he could talk off script about policy for hours.
Okay, he's how old is he right now, Robbie?
78?
78-year-old dude.
He's sitting there in that room, and we've been in that room before.
He was funny.
And I feel like him and Elon Musk have a great relationship and they have a mutual respect for each other.
You could hear it through their conversation.
Okay, I think Trump was authentic, transparent.
This got him a bunch of new demographics.
Think about all the people that you never thought, a billion impressions, Pat.
Trump's promises, one of his biggest promises I love was getting rid of the Department of Education.
That was one of the ones that hit me.
And he goes, I'm going to give it to the states to deal with that.
He wants to get rid of that department.
He had a plan to utilize Trump, Elon, and the upcoming administration we talked about.
I think it was a win for him.
It was a win for X.
And I think, yeah, when do you get to sit down and listen to a president speak like that for two hours and however many minutes it was?
I agree with a lot of that.
And what I would add to that is we heard an unscripted leader talking.
Bingo.
And if some people think, oh, that was boring, you know, would you rather have someone standing at a microphone just reading the teleprompter for five minutes and then walking off stage to her handlers, not pointing anybody out here, right?
And then avoid the media and not talk at all.
No, he went there and he was informed.
He was engaging.
He was funny.
Maybe a little too acerbic on a couple things, name callings.
You just stick to the policies and just let us know what you think.
But I thought it was wonderful.
And how many times in life have you said, you know what?
I never saw this side of him.
A friend, a mother-in-law, people like that.
Now, all of a sudden, you have a different vibe or a different meeting or a different engagement.
And then, wow, I really didn't see the side of them.
There's something I didn't know.
I'm glad I did.
And I think a lot of American voters, that that's exactly how they felt.
I disagree with you guys.
And I'll tell you why.
Pat, if you did a video with Trump, I'm sorry, an interview with Trump, what are the chances that you, PBD, on the PBD podcast, would do audio-only interview with Trump.
You.
What are the chances?
Zero.
Zero.
What are the chances that you would have zero short clips for people to watch and see each of these conversations?
I'm going to be curious to know where you go.
I'm going to get to the point where you disagree with Venny.
Yeah.
So, okay.
So my point is I'm going to do clips.
Up, Eric comes.
Thanks for the Tom comedy hat here, buddy.
I'm going to start interrupting you every time.
We're going to go back to that princess crap if you don't shut up.
At what point do I just slap an old man?
But I will not disrespect the this was a wasted opportunity because did this garner any new votes?
This was great.
Three hours of Trump rambling with Elon.
Amazing.
I tuned in for the first hour.
There was no audio.
I left.
I would love me, and I'm sure there's a lot of people that feel this way.
I would love to watch some short clips.
Here's a short clip of Elon and Trump talking about China.
Here's a short clip that was.
There was.
There was millions of short clips.
Show me them.
Rob has a bunch of them.
By the way, it's all over Twitter.
That's not Musk's job.
Musk.
But is there, but it was not, it was just audio, not visual.
I don't know.
I'm a visual learner.
Maybe this is just me.
That's part of the reason that I'm not.
I thought you're going somewhere else with that.
Let me say a couple of thoughts.
Do you have anything else to add outside of that?
Is that where you were going with it?
I'm just saying, I think it was great that they're having this conversation.
Kamala would never do something like this.
But to me, it could have been better.
Yeah, so I think when you asked the first question, would you ever do just audio?
I said, no.
Would you ever do it with no short clips?
No.
But you have to realize, you know what is the biggest podcast in the world?
X.
And you know how many editors Elon Musk has?
About 200 million.
And you know who those editors are?
Viewers.
Random.
You know how many editors we got?
15.
So the only difference between us, we pay for our editors.
He doesn't.
They do it for free.
He's got non-profit editors, people who edit for him without him having to do it.
I don't know if you understand what I'm talking about.
I do it all the time.
Yeah.
So matter of fact, we're all editors for, you know, if you kind of break that part down.
Now, this is kind of how I see it when I listen to this.
And Megan Kelly said bored, blabbering, da-da-da-da-da, and all this other stuff.
Look, go to Twitter, Robin, if you can pull up kind of what I said about it, but I'll add one other thing here to it.
So to me, I think there's a part where I can look at you and we work together here.
And if all of a sudden I notice you're not good to give credit, you make it look like I came to recruit you instead of you come here.
Someone's in your ear.
Yeah.
And someone's whispering to you that without you, Pat would never have PBD podcast.
No, no, but wait a minute.
But let me tell you, I guarantee you've already gotten those calls.
Okay.
If let's just say, you know, somebody comes to me and says, well, Pat, you realize without you, no one would ever know who Adam is.
Okay.
And somebody goes to Adam and says, and Adam, let me tell you, you're the only reasonable.
All the other ones, you know what they're all about.
So there's no way no one gets these messages.
Everybody's getting these messages and these calls.
Same with Tom.
Tom, you're the smartest guy on the pot.
I'm only tuning into you.
Yeah.
Tom's luck.
I am the smartest guy on the road.
Hey, Rob, you run this entire thing.
Just so you know, these other guys have no, I just wait for your commentary, Rob.
Okay.
With his pants on.
But the moral of the story is the following.
You know that's happening.
Who's the last person in this person's ear before they go to sleep?
And who's his corner?
The last phone call Trump makes is his campaign managers.
What do they say?
Let's roleplay the call.
So you're Trump.
Musk's life ends.
You call.
Do you think Trump's calling his best guys and his handlers to ask him what?
How was it?
First of all, what are the chances his campaign manager listened to it?
From the video, somebody was sitting with him.
It's not his guy, but it's one of his advisors.
But what's the chances that they listen to it?
100%.
100% sure, right?
Exactly.
The whole thing.
They're not in the room, but 100% they listen to it.
Okay, what do you think Trump's asking afterwards?
What the hell happened the first freaking hour with the audio?
Okay.
All right.
That's one thing.
We already asked that.
How did I come across that?
I hit all the points that I wanted to hit.
Did I sound stupid?
He won't say that, but actually what he says.
Yeah, like, did I hit everything that I was supposed to hit?
Was there something that I should have done different that you guys could let me know?
Okay.
So now give me three different response three different handlers would give.
Well, if they're the yes man, it's just like you were perfect.
It was flawless.
You know, you couldn't have done any better.
Another opinion would have been like, listen, you were good, but at some point you just kept repeating yourself about certain issues and you should have driven it home and more and changed the subject.
And the other guy could have been like, you know, it should have been more vicious.
Tom, Tom.
I'm just saying, you're a reasonable guy.
What would you say?
So I think there's probably two sets of people in the room of any candidate.
And you have the ones who are not the leaders among the strategists, but they're in the room, right?
To your point, like the nine people.
Oh, man, you were great.
Don't worry about that.
Don't worry about the glitch at the beginning because you got on there and went out.
You made the points, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So you have all the people that are kind of yes people, and they're there to kind of prop you up and push.
And then you'll have, you know, like the Corey Leon Dosk, if I'm pronouncing it.
Lowandowski.
Lowandowski.
Back in the day, he would have sat there and says, you know, it could have been this, it could have been that.
And he's constructive.
And that was his rep. His rep was one-on-one, constructive.
I'm hoping there is a person like that in there.
And then there would have been the person who's worried about perfection.
Oh, I can't believe it.
We started late.
We went a little long on these things.
But I think there's a lot of people who are going to be really careful about giving the candidate feedback.
But I think there's going to be a mix in there, but I think there's going to be a lot of yes people.
Yeah.
Well, what do you think Kellyanne Kama would say?
She would say, I think it was a great three hours.
We got the most out of it.
We touched the voters.
The glitches, the system, don't even worry about that.
We can hit this, this, and this.
I think she would have been right down the middle.
Okay.
So let me down the middle.
Maybe let me ask the question in a different way.
Maybe let me ask the question in a different way.
How much of it is the conversations you have pre the live?
How much of it is debriefing after the live?
Well, after the live.
Let me ask you a question one more time.
Hang on.
I remember what I'm saying.
I hear you.
How much of a successful live is the pre-live versus debriefing after the live?
Is so much more important.
That's the point.
So much more important.
And I trust Kellyanne to be bomb.
So let me ask you a question.
Pre-live, what is a good pre-live preparer do?
Go through all the points, all the points that you want to talk about, all the campaigns.
Strategy of what we're doing here with the richest man in the world and the biggest platform in the world.
Don't blow it.
Filter and focus.
Yeah, filter and focus, but remember who we're talking about.
We're talking about Donald Trump.
Much of the advice.
You have to be careful of what you tell him, because he is who he is.
What do you mean careful?
What about?
I mean?
What do we do?
We filter, we focus, we talk about angles and we have our perspective.
We respect our audience through preparations.
Yeah no no, I agree.
So here's, here's.
I wrote three things down.
Okay uh, how much of what Trump said was what Trump said, how much of it was what the market is challenging Trump on to overcome those objections, how much of it was his advisors?
Let me say what was the first one.
So Trump, criticism advisors.
I mean, I think Trump Pat, he's at 80, he's going 80, i'm 80, he's 80.
Okay, how much is critics?
I was 70 2010, you're 70 2010, where you at 80.
And what was the last one?
Critics advisors, advisors 80 to 10, 15 and 15 for the advisors giving advice and the rest is going.
I'm the other way around.
Okay Adam, this is what Trump wants to say.
What him respond what Trump said on the live.
How much of it was Trump, how much of it was his critics?
How much of it was these advisors?
90 Trump, and then distribute the five, ten percent however you want to do?
I actually think it's more, 80, 15 critics, five and then five advisors, meaning he's not listening to anyone.
And the reason that you ask, yeah, got it hold on Tom Um.
Can I speculate why you've already alluded to Kellyann Conway three times in the podcast, even though her name is not anywhere on here, is because he needs a Kellyan Conway quick.
Think about it real quick.
Who's the one person in Trump's orbit right now that he will listen to as advice counsel, advice?
Uh, president Trump, this is what you should be doing.
Well, Don Jr the influence on.
I think I think he listens to Don Jr for sure on.
That's not named Trump.
In the current chorus of Republicans urging Trump to back off the Harris insult bingo, but she's not part of the campaign.
Who's part of the campaign right now that legitimately look at her.
Look, what look is that?
You know what look that is.
It's the exact look you want for that person and, by the way, you know how much credit she wants this much.
Yeah, this is how much credit she wants, but she wants some money.
I mean she she, she.
When i'm telling you this is how much credit she wants, the market's gonna give her plenty of credit, but she's a stat I love, we're on the same page here, but she's not on the team.
So answer this question, who's on the team right now that he actually his sons, for sure that's not named Donald Trump Jr?
Oh, name the name.
I don't know anybody exactly.
Yeah, that's my point.
I don't know his team.
Everybody, even Pat everybody, that has somebody you you saw, you said the story you gave earlier about Rfk, nine people in the room, five people in the room, two people in the room, one person in the room.
Who's the one person in the room that says uh, Mr Trump um, here's what you could have done better, straight up, it would have to be her.
If it's her yeah, why isn't she on the team?
The reason why it's it has to be a person like that is because it has to be a person that doesn't have to brag afterwards of what they did, guess what?
Guess who told gave him that line?
Guess who told him to say that you don't want that person.
Yeah, it needs to be someone that is, boom, I got it, i'm good, this is my role, this is what i'm doing.
So anyways, for me uh, it is the right, the right, the point I was trying to make to you guys was the following, this whole, you know score that we went through, which is what Trump critics advisors.
This is how it works, mr president.
Um, here's a one pager I gave you.
Here's a phone.
Here's a battery recorder on the bottom.
Here's the bullet points to hit, your points to hit.
Here's what the critics are saying, hit this, avoid this, stick to these stats.
Here's this boom.
Okay, all right.
So look ta-da da da, da check.
No matter how much anybody says about what happened, Rob, go to Twitter on what I said about Trump's Twitter spaces.
No matter what anybody can say about what happened, okay?
This is where it comes down to me.
Stamina is by far the most intimidating quality an opponent can have.
President Trump's level of stamina is second to none.
He's doing the call East Coast time, which he was at Mar-a-Lago, which means it's almost 11 p.m.
He's been going almost for three hours, including the delay.
As a founder of a few businesses, one thing I can tell you founders have as an edge over their peers is their relentless energy to keep going way past their opponents slowing down or stopping.
There's nothing more annoying than an opponent that has unlimited supply of energy.
It's annoying.
It's intimidating.
It's frustrating and quite frankly causes the type of envy that words can describe.
Your enemies are hoping you slow down.
They secretly hope for you to get sick or something happens to cause you to slow down.
Here are 10 questions to help your decision of who to vote for.
One, how many interviews has Kamala done?
Two, how many three-hour podcasts has Obama, Kamala, and Biden ever done?
Why not?
Is it because it's risky?
Do you, as a voter, prefer one that's willing to openly speak on a live with zero scripts or teleprompters?
Would you prefer all being calculated and scripted?
Who would you like to have negotiate on your behalf for the investment you're making, your taxes?
Whose energy would you like if a war breaks out in the middle of the night?
Someone only who will work six hours a day or someone who's the real life energy, real life energizer bunny?
Who do you trust doing more good for your money?
High taxes, money to the government, low taxes, money in people's hands.
Who do you think your enemies want to see win the election?
A leader who's relentless and constantly moving or one that's low energy and flip-flops half the time?
Vote accordingly.
So to me, you freaking kidding me?
I love number 10, by the way.
You know, to me, it's like, yeah, okay.
Like, shit hits the fan at 3 o'clock in the morning.
What percentage of America is asleep?
If a war breaks out at 3 o'clock in the morning, what percentage of America is asleep?
Because 3 o'clock Eastern Standard Time is midnight.
Actually, go 340 million people.
What percentage of people, Americans living in America, do you think is asleep at 3 o'clock in the morning?
80%.
80%?
Okay.
What do you think?
You think it's 80%, Tom?
20% are working?
90%?
Yeah, I think it's 85, 90%.
90%.
Let's say 90% is sleeping.
Somebody's working in emergency rooms, but you add it all up.
85% of America is in bed.
80, 85, 90%.
You have a phone call to make.
President Trump, President Harris, President Biden.
Who do you think is going to be the fastest to get up, go make a decision, and boom, let's go?
Trump, Trump, period.
And even close.
Sorry.
Okay.
And it's not just speed.
Who do I trust at that hour to be processing and be America first and focused?
Can Donald Trump win the election without Killian Conway on his team?
I don't know.
We're about to find out in 80 days.
We're about to find out in 80 days because you know what?
Rogan had a, he said some thoughts about Kamala.
Did you guys see this?
Rogan did.
Watch this, Rob.
Play this clip, Rob.
I just texted it.
You know who else is up at the time?
You know which clip I'm talking about?
Tom.
I didn't text about you.
I just text you if you have it.
Let me find it.
Give me one second.
If you just tap in, Rogan Kamala, it'll come up.
I think he's wearing a black shirt.
Rogan Kamala.
No, just don't go all the way around.
You went to Kamala Atlanta.
Just go Rogan Kamala.
What was that?
Rogan Kamala.
Right there.
Watch this.
Yeah.
That's a problem.
That's a problem.
And I don't think they thought she was going to be able to do that.
That's the thing.
You can fucking coach somebody, bro.
It ain't hard.
I mean, maybe she just practiced.
Who are these coaches?
There's public speakers and stuff?
Yeah, public speaking coaches.
Yeah, there's political speech analysts.
There's people that teach people how to take David Lucas gets hired to give her like some one-liners.
Listen.
I mean, there's a crazy world where there's shit like that, where somebody goes, you need a couple zingers in your back pocket.
I don't know.
100%.
That's not your road in your brain doesn't operate like that.
Trump does.
Trump is looking at like, you know, to make a little put down, or he's just quick in that way.
So he is quick in that way.
Also, it would behoove him to hire a few great comics to just tour with him and just write one-liners about all these different fucking people.
I mean, if he could remember them, I mean, I know he likes to go off his own head, but if he could remember a few Hinchcliffe bangers if he hires Hinchcliffe to take him on the road, you know how fucking insane that would be?
Yeah, dude.
Hinchcliffe writing bangers for Trump to shit on people.
Comedy cures, and it also is like sometimes what kind of just pushes things over the top.
You know why I love what Rogan says here?
What do you think about what he's saying here?
What's he saying here?
Get me some help and get some strategy.
What he's saying is that Kamala can win.
Of course.
That's what he's saying.
He's saying that too.
It's the initial one.
I'm like disgusted and shocked, but also completely understand.
She's currently now favored to win the election.
But how do you Vegas?
How, though?
You know why?
How we can spend.
Yeah, no, you're right.
But that's the reality.
Yeah, but it's absolutely.
We don't have to spend an hour to think of anything.
Think about the actual fact: don't ever underestimate the power of the media.
MSNBC, everybody, by the way, nobody wants to vote for Kamala.
They have to vote for her.
That's it.
It's not Trump, Kamala, and they're doing a fantastic job.
Bro, you have to take your hats off.
She doesn't have to talk to anybody.
Why would you let her talk to anybody?
Leave her exactly, just like when Joe Biden, when COVID hit, keep him in the basement.
We already got it.
We're already going to do what we have to do to make everybody vote from home.
That's it.
You're not seeing an election right now.
You're seeing a marketing campaign.
Big time.
We've got other stories here about polling and other stuff that we'll get to.
But do you remember the what they're doing?
What is polls telling us, Tom?
Well, there's a couple things that are going on right now.
You want me to read the Rasmussen and then go to it?
Yeah, if that's we're rolling off.
Yeah, let's get right to it.
What pictures Erasmuson wants?
22 or something?
Is that where it's at?
I think it's that's I don't think it's the 22 one.
I think it is.
There it is.
Election 2024, Trump 49%, Kamala 44%, RFK 3%.
This is Rasmussen report.
As of August 8th, is what the numbers are.
So let me see if anything's changed from here.
And there's a new one that came out with Pew as well.
So here we go.
Former President Donald Trump has maintained his lead over Vice President Kamala Harris and his support for RFK.
The latest Rasmussen poll has a two-way matchup.
49% of voters vote for Trump, 44 Harris, 4% to RFK.
These findings are nearly unchanged from a week ago, which was the second survey since President Joe Biden.
Rob, what are those polls today?
What are the numbers saying to Tom?
What are you seeing on the market with the polls?
So there's a couple things that are going on today.
And the first thing is that the Kamala bounce is subsiding, and it's really only one to two points nationally.
But the media is pushing this AstroTurf campaign very hard.
And there's a number of pollsters that are lining up as AstroTurf salesmen.
Take a look here.
This is the number of polls per week that were released.
So why is it that on 11 August 18th, August 11th, why are the number of polls going down?
The number of polls released.
It's because of this.
When the polling data fits the media narrative, the polls get released.
When the polling data doesn't fit the media narrative, the pollsters are holding back.
And right now, the pollsters are holding back because the Kamala bounce is subsiding and it's settling in at one to two point on the national level.
But remember, national level is like time of possession in a football game.
That's not where the scoreboard is.
The scoreboard is the Electoral College because the states are the touchdowns and field goals.
That's how this is going to be settled.
And right now, there are three truths.
Number one, Kamala's had a bounce.
It's legitimate and there's enthusiasm over there, but it's not as bad as it looks.
Truth number two, the pollsters are becoming media outlets.
And truth number three, the Trump campaign has been kind of flat-footed on a more optimal response.
All those three things are true.
So what's your point?
What we see here is that right now, on a national basis, this has tightened up, but it's not Kamala 5.
It's not Kamala 6.
It's not Kamala 8.
Those polls are BS.
And by the way, Quinnipac is completely out of their mind.
They regurgitated and re-released the poll.
Remember, those are the guys that said the day before they ran the last two polls in the last election, and they had Georgia 8, Georgia 10 for Biden, and it was razor-thin and it took maybe some midnight madness to actually go the other way.
But they were Georgia 8, Georgia 10.
It says Pew hasn't even been doing presidential polling like this, and suddenly they're running to the microphone.
It is an astroturf campaign by the pollsters.
But the truth is, this is narrowed up and a group that is moving.
There is a group moving, and it's those independent women that you can't, to Kellyanne Conway's point, if you're going to criticize and be personal with Kamala Harris, you're going to lose these women.
But right now, the polling, I'm waiting for stuff to come back up that is more balanced.
Oh, I read.
I read Tom.
Tom, what's your point, dude?
You're trying so hard, you little bitch.
You know, it's like, it's like, you know, Tom, you're the smartest guy in the room.
You're rambling on and on and on about that.
It's a tight race.
Maybe it sounds like rambling to no shit.
Give us the textbooks, baby.
So you have right now two things that are very, very, very, very true.
Has a nerd ever called you like a little bitch in your life?
Anybody else?
It's just so.
No, but if I imagine it's something you're used to.
So basically, it's not as bad as it looks, but the Trump campaign needs to pick it up a little bit.
And the pollsters are acting like media outlets.
And there's a lot of BS that's happening out in these polls.
A lot.
Tom, you killed it, man.
Great, great job.
You just broke down the entire race in saying, hey, it's a close race.
Great job.
Sick one.
Did you want to say something?
He killed it.
He just was that spot on for you.
Hey, guys, breaking news.
It's a tight race.
All right.
Here's some stats to show it.
Great.
Let's go to the next one since you guys are so excited about it.
Okay, whistleblower Tulsi Gabbard, named on TSA Quiet Skies watch list.
Let me read this in a Vinny.
I'm coming to you.
So former Congresswoman Tulsi has reportedly been named on the Transportation Security Administration Quiet Skies watch list.
Whistleblowers within the Federal Air Marshal Service are criming, subjecting her to the same surveillance used against suspected terrorists.
Gabbard, a lieutenant in the U.S. Army Reserved and a fierce critic of Biden administration, has unknowingly had two explosive detection canine teams, one transportation security specialist explosives, one plainclothes TSA supervisor and three federal air marshals on every flight she boarded since being added to the list.
The whistleblower reports first shared with Sonia Labasco, the executive director of Air Marshal National Security Council, determined that Gabbard was added to the Quiet Skies list on July 23rd, 2024, one day after she criticized Biden, Kamala Harris, and overall security state during an interview with Laura Ingram.
Vinny.
Okay, so, I mean, first and foremost, I want people to understand what you just said, Pat.
That means once she's put on this quiet skies list, every time she goes on a flight, there has to be a, let me find where you said it, PBD.
She has to have three federal air marshals on every flight that she goes on, okay?
Even terrorists don't get this type of attention.
There has to be like seven people involved with her.
And I just, you want to show what she actually said so I can get into it, Rob, but can you show what she was on the angle?
And this is, guys, pay attention.
If you criticize the military-industrial complex and Kamala Harris, and you say Kamala Harris is dangerous to our democracy, the Department of Homeland Security is going to tap you for the rest of your life.
Rob, play this clip.
Let them see it.
I'm more interested, Laura, in what the American people are thinking.
I've been seeing headline after headline saying, well, what is Kamala Harris's foreign policy going to be?
And then you were reminded by these examples of how inexperienced and lacking of knowledge and strength that she is.
So to answer that question, what kind of commander in chief will she be?
What kind of foreign policy will she have?
We simply need to look at the facts of what we've seen under the Biden-Harris administration.
They are not running our foreign policy.
Our foreign policy decisions are being made by unelected people in the military-industrial complex who are profiting from us being in a constant state of war and the national security state that has more power to undermine our freedoms and liberties when we are in a state of war.
Kamala Harris does not have the strength to stand up to the military-industrial complex the nationality of the US.
Like, I hope you guys are paying.
That's all she said.
It goes on for a little bit more, Tom.
Nothing more, nothing less than what she just said.
The Department of Homeland Security put her on a domestic terrorist watch list.
And for the people out there that don't know a little bit about Tulsi Gabbert, she's an active duty lieutenant colonel, Pat, in the United States Army.
She was deployed in Iraq during the war, 2004.
She was assigned to a field medical unit in a combat zone.
Guys, not just hanging out and nothing's going on in a combat zone and received a combat medal badge for service under enemy fire.
Okay, she was basically there trying to help us fight terrorists.
And she comes here and she criticizes them and she's on the terror watch list.
And you want to talk about weaponized legal system, Tom?
The same thing that's happening with her is exactly what they've been doing to Donald Trump.
Am I right?
Yeah, you're taking parts of the U.S. government and throwing it your opponent.
Yeah, there's absolutely no difference.
The moment that this happened, I guess August 8th.
No, no.
So the whistleblower.
She was added to the list July 23rd, 2024.
So this just happened.
Adam, yeah, raising.
And July 23rd?
Yes.
Was Kamala already the presumptive nominee at that point?
I think so.
I'm pretty sure.
Can I give you my little two seconds?
And I'm almost done.
But think of this, Adam.
Just on a security level, I know, Tom, we talked about it on the unusuals where, you know, it's not going to be there forever.
But do you understand the mental screw that it does to her?
Because for the rest, like, by the way, I don't know if she's suing Rob.
Do you check if she's suing the, she's suing them for doing this?
For the rest of her life, Adam, her phone, she's always going to be questioning, are they listening to me?
Are they watching my family?
If I'm flying, who is that person?
Are they checking me?
Like, do you understand what type of disrespect?
And again, Alejandro Mayorkes and the Department of Homeland Security.
There's enough shit.
We have terrorists, actual terrorists walking over our border.
Remember, they don't know the number.
We caught 150, but God knows how many are here.
We had that one guy, Tom, that came over, remember, and he was like this.
Soon you will know who my name is.
These are actual, actual terrorists.
And you take an active duty lieutenant colonel and put her on this list.
Shame on all of you, every single one of you.
And the people that let them put her on this list, shame on you, they should freaking resign.
One whistleblower came out.
Where are the rest of you?
Unbelievable.
So who runs TSA?
This guy named David Pekowski.
David Pogoski became the president of TSA under Trump in 2017, okay?
And was reconfirmed for a second term September of 2022.
He leads a workforce of 60,000 agents, 440 airports.
Under his leadership, TSA, da-da-da-da, during his tenure, TSA Mr. Pikowski also served as the Department Homeland Security and acting secretary from January 20 to February 2022.
And it's, Rob, can you find out who Pukowski reports to?
So who does TSA report to?
Well, yeah, no, I mean, Adam, it's funny, but you're right.
And also, Pat, while you're looking, the TSA has stated it's under the direction of the Secretary of Department of Homeland Security.
So it's Majorca.
That's exactly who it is.
Well, then there you go.
So TSA is under Major Cas.
So Maorcas forced David, who got job, who got the job by Trump, to put Tulsi on the list.
Very interesting.
Yeah, but it's not going to slow her down.
No, no.
Because I'll just say this one thing.
Is there a bigger threat to Kamala's campaign than A, the person who literally made her suspend her campaign in 2020 when she annihilated her on stage, than a female of color veteran.
No, not veteran, active duty.
Active duty, but, you know, part of the military soldier.
Reserve.
Congressperson.
Oh, by the way, who was a former Democrat who ran for president in 2020.
She has all the check marks.
Boom, boom, boom.
She's like the credible, established, sensible Nikki Haley.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
And Kamala has.
Like, she's a viable candidate.
But you know what's happening?
That's who she is.
She signed.
So everyone else that is not her is like, oh, we got to silence this woman.
Of course.
Because she's that girl.
And the biggest problem is Pat, Army, Air Force, she's Army Reserve.
Well, she's still in the Army.
We sign, we swore an oath to protect this country from enemies, foreign and domestic.
And what people don't understand is that domestic word, to me, is more of a threat than the foreign one.
It's when the people that are here, this deep state that we always hear, that people are like, you guys are conspiracy theorists.
Do you understand what it has to happen for somebody to hear that in the deep state?
Alejandro Mallorcas to say, hey, guys, monitor her.
She's a terrorist.
She's a potential domestic terrorist.
And if you guys hear one thing on her phone, if you see one thing, grab her ass and we're going to make an example out of her.
It's such bullshit because she went through this same exact thing when she was a quote-unquote Russian asset when she basically criticized Hillary Clinton.
And then that's how she had to basically navigate her campaign as a quote-unquote Russian asset.
Unbelievable.
So we've seen this before.
But it's not cool.
It doesn't make any good.
You know, a lot of times, you know, the Tulsis of the world, the RFK juniors of the world, these are former Democrats who basically had a peek behind the curtain.
They're like, oh, this is swampy in here.
Same thing that, I mean, basically Trump is doing on the right.
Speaking truth to power is necessary.
And that's why someone like Tulsi is so respected along podcast and free thinker type communities.
But on the mainstream media, she'll be the lambast.
And just a little fun fact, the TSA states it does not take race or religion into account when enrolling individuals in this Quiet Skies program, but they fail to mention if they do it for political affiliation.
That is unbelievable.
And Rob, did you find out if she's suing them?
I couldn't find anything, but there is an investigation into why she was put on the list.
By the way, this is a mic drop moment of Tulsi against Kamala, where it got Kamala to leave, endorse Biden, become the VP.
Go ahead, Rob.
I'd love it.
Prosecutor, and that she'll be a prosecutor president.
But I'm deeply concerned about this record.
There are too many examples to cite, but she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.
She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so.
She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California.
And she fought to keep cash bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way.
When you were in a position to make a difference and an impact in these people's lives, you did not.
And worse yet, in the case of those who were on death row, I'm so freaking fistwatching this.
You actually blocked evidence from being revealed that would have freed them until you were forced to do so.
There is no excuse for that.
And the people who suffered under your reign as prosecutor owe them, you owe them an apology.
What is the likelihood?
What is the likelihood that she remembers this clip?
She's worried that Tulsi is going to get louder, that she was involved in calling Majorca's to silence Tulsi.
What was the likelihood of that happening?
30%.
High probability.
Say hi.
And I think it's an even higher probability that the puppeteers that are over her campaign that helped orchestrate the shift away from Biden because they don't want to lose power that they dropped the dime.
Yeah.
Let me tell you something.
By the way, what she said was all facts.
Think about this.
Do you remember on this exact same debate stage what Kamala said about Joe Biden to his face?
Racist, white guy.
He's basically like, I was that girl on that bus.
Yeah, you racist.
I was busy.
So here she is just basically calling it like she sees it accurate because all these stories of Kamala.
And now she's on this terror watch list.
Unbelievable.
Kamala plays the game, does the DEI checkmate game.
Boom, look at her playing her role, even though she basically did the exact same thing that Tulsi did to Kamala, that Kamala did to Biden the exact same thing.
Hey, listen, we're going to need a DEI candidate.
You're going to need you to play ball.
Hell, who knows?
In four years, you could be the president.
Wow.
Boom.
Yeah, look at this.
Remember this?
Who's he that?
Don't forget this.
I was actually very, it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country.
And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing.
Okay.
Just the identity politics game of Kamala.
Do you hear Tulsi Gabbert doing the identity politics game?
She can do that game.
She can play that game.
She doesn't have to.
She doesn't have to.
It's just so disgusting to me.
I know.
And this is why, even as annoying and just sort of shooting himself in the foot constantly as Trump is, why I would definitely vote for Trump over someone like Kamala.
But this is the reason Kamala's favored right now.
She's playing that DEI identity politics game and it's disgusting.
Leaders have been using agencies of our government since the dawn of time.
I mean, how many books have been written about LBJ and the CIA?
So we don't need term limits.
We need jail.
I think so.
Can you pull up Mark Cuban?
Mark Cuban goes on Jon Stewart.
They're having a conversation together.
And the entire time Mark Cuban was there to promote Twitter on behalf of Elon Musk.
And if you want to go ahead.
It's not so much support thing.
It's more like the first five seconds.
But watching what's happened in Silicon Valley is insane.
Right.
Right.
It's not so much a support thing.
It's more like a takeover thing.
Trying to put themselves in a position to have as much control as possible.
Want Trump to be the CEO of the United States of America?
Let it continue because there's one that specifically him called on, let her play rap.
They want to be the board of directors that makes him listen to them.
It's not a good idea.
What is the ethos?
Because it seems like in the old days of innovation, there was a certain amount of we're innovating the internet, we're taking things.
Now it seems much more about sort of this social engineering and transhumanism.
And we are going to join with computers and together eight of us are going to run everything.
Dominate, right?
Is that the ethos you see?
Yeah, I think you just said yeah.
So here's Mark Cuban on another clip, Rob.
I just send it to you as well if you want to find it.
This one is a lightweight.
This wasn't a big one.
So Pat, Jon Stewart's show, is he on all the time?
No, it's not just a show.
He does Musk.
Okay, gotcha.
So you can, Rob, there's a clip specific, that's the main one that went viral, Rob.
It's a clip I just texted you.
You can find it on Twitter.
You don't need to go over there.
Just type in Musk, Cuban.
Type in Cuban and Musk, and you should see it.
That's the one.
So this is about him going straight after Elon.
I think this is the one.
Go ahead.
Look at Elon, right?
Elon, in being one of those powerful people, he's trying to be the most influential man in the world.
It sounds like a commercial, but literally, that's what Twitter is.
I've got to say, I think he might be that.
I don't even think he's trying to be.
When you talk about somebody who is setting up satellite links for war zones and also controlling discourse in the most important media platforms, I would think he's the most powerful.
Because Twitter is in almost every country, right?
And so Twitter gives him the ability to connect to the prime minister, the head of every country in the world.
That's right.
And that person, whoever's in charge of that country, has an interest in what happens on Twitter.
And what happens on Twitter, because of the control of the algorithms being the biggest user, is all dependent on Elon Musk.
He literally, wherever his thumb wants to go, he gets to push as hard as possible.
And he certainly, I mean, he's transparent about where he wants things to go.
I think he's very clear that civil war is inevitable and that white people are under concern.
Right.
You know, it'll be like civil war is inevitable.
And then he'll write underneath there.
Hmm.
You know.
Kind of an understatement on there.
But I can't decide whether or not it's better to know exactly where he stands and know where he's going to be put the thumb on.
Because he's not, he's clearly a very bright guy.
Yeah, for sure.
And he has a media empire that has the largest reach and most influence of anything on the face of the earth.
And there's no question he's going to leverage it in this election.
No question.
But the crazy part is he has more impact globally than he does domestically, in my opinion, right?
Because when you go on X, you see a preponderance of right-leaning people.
You don't see a lot.
They're all over my for you.
I've never clicked on any of these fingers.
That's the whole thing.
That's the way algorithms work, right?
What?
Yes.
They do the opposite of what I want.
Yes.
When somebody tells him, when you write an algorithm, I haven't written a lot, it's been a while, but when you write one, you get to set the parameters of what you want to see happen.
And he certainly has done that to the things he likes.
But it's different on other platforms.
And the good news is, what, 20% of adults in the United States are on Twitter?
So, I mean, there's 80% who aren't there.
But isn't this a certain amount of tech bro malpractice that there is this incredible need in the marketplace of something that is slightly less biased or toxic when it comes to there?
And if they came out with threads, and you're on it for two seconds, you're like, I think I need an app.
No, I like threads.
Threads is getting better.
Try it.
Here's something that doesn't sell online.
No, it's getting better.
Tom.
So I disagree with a couple angles in there.
It's like you're trying to say that somehow Elon Musk is the largest lobbyist and he's dangerous, but only 20% of American adults are using it.
Which way are you going to be, Mark?
I mean, which way is the criticism?
And by the way, he says, you don't think that Zuckerberg and others are doing the same thing and getting called out for that in the same way?
You know, I don't know.
I think that was kind of a softball by Jon Stewart, even though he called it out kind of jokingly there at the end.
I don't have much.
It's just Mark Cuban, just, I don't think he likes Elon Musk at all because Elon Musk is bigger, better.
And the guy spent how many billions of dollars to give us a platform that, yeah, okay, some people are on there saying some $44 billion.
Okay.
And yeah, people are saying mean things, but he gave it to us so that everybody and everybody could speak.
And I'm pretty sure a lot of people out there had friends when we were complaining about all the censorship and all the FBI at Twitter and everything.
And what did all the people on the left say?
Well, if you don't like it, go ahead and buy your own.
Well, guess what?
One of ours bought it so we could say whatever the hell we want.
I think they all just hate him.
Period.
Adam.
Mark Cuban's an interesting guy, man.
The evolution of Mark Cuban.
So Mark Cuban is what, 65, 66 years old, I want to say.
He looks great.
So I think he bought the Dallas Mavericks in 2000.
So he's been in the public eye for 25 years now.
Fact check me on this.
How old is he?
65, 66?
66.
Boom.
He's a looker.
What year did he buy the Mavericks?
2000, give or take?
99.
Okay.
So stud.
One year off.
Maybe you're right.
Maybe you're right because it says he sold his shares in 99 for 5.7 billion and then he bought the Mavs sometime back here or basically he's 65, 66 years old.
He bought the Mavericks in 2000.
So he's had 25 years in the spotlight.
Nobody knew who this tech pro was before he bought the Mavericks.
And what's interesting about Mark Cuban is this guy was the rebel without a cause of the NBA.
There's nobody, I don't know if there's another owner in the NBA like him now or possibly ever that was animated on the sidelines, getting fined every single game, fighting with refs, fighting with other fans.
This guy was active.
So now, you know, the evolution of Mark Cuban, they won a championship in 2010.
Boom, he starts doing the Shark Tank thing.
Shark Tank's been a number one show on CNBC for a decade plus.
What's his next move?
What's his next move?
I think politically, I know, Pat, you have a lot to say on this.
You've interviewed Mark.
You've exchanged a lot of things online.
But something tells me Mark Cuban's got his eye on something, and a lot of it is leaning towards politics.
What do you think, PBD?
These are my thoughts.
It's one of two things that Cuban is doing, his attacks on Trump and Musk.
One, he's either plotting his next big move to buy CNN, buy media platform, since he just recently sold a big chunk of Mavs or campaign for 2028, or he has no moves and he's just envious.
If it's number one, respect he's going after the big dogs, no problem.
If it's number two, there's two types of competitors out there.
Those who win by outworking, out, improving, out, strategizing, outlasting, and those who do whatever they can to pull the guys ahead of them down, right?
Now, Musk and Trump, it's a very weird dynamic because Trump is 12 years older than him.
Musk is 13 years younger than him, Rob, if you want to go a little lower.
So Musk is 13 years younger.
They both annoy for different reasons.
Trump is who Cuban kind of wants to be.
Trump secretly is Cuban's hero.
Exactly.
I think so, Doc.
I think they're both billionaires.
They both have an award-winning show, but only one of them is a trifecta and a president.
And Cuban knows if he becomes a president, he'll be the second one.
And that probably irritates the hell out of him.
He just doesn't know if he wants to work that hard to become a president.
If you notice, if Cuban does podcasts, it's normally on a Zoom or people go to him.
He doesn't go to go on podcasts.
That's what Trump does.
That's what others do.
He doesn't see himself as somebody that's going to go there.
Musk, on the other hand, is annoying for different reasons.
Why do you continue going after the richest man in the world?
What are you doing?
Why do you think so big?
Why is he more famous than Cuban, even though he's never had a TV show, never owned a professional sports team?
Is he smarter than Cuban?
Is he as an engineer in business winning the crowd house?
So Cuban made the mistake of choosing forced community win over.
Academia, MSM, woke ESG, DEI, and mandate community.
Musk chose independents, libertarians, crypto podcasters free to choose.
As a fierce competitor, it must drive him insane to see an older and a younger man beating him.
This shouldn't bother the average person, but it does bother him because he thinks very highly of himself.
You got to respect that.
And that's why I'm convinced this serves Cuban as much as it does.
He has three options.
Go after Musk and Trump, but choose to get into the arena to compete, buy CNN, buy platforms, start a podcast like the all-in-pod, but do something.
Run for office.
Two, sit on the sidelines and focus on your next five to 15 moves.
Three, just be an influencer and a spokesperson for mainstream media of academia, woke the IESG community that doesn't have the values and principles of an alpha leader who tracks an alpha base, loyal base.
Either way, I think he has no choice but to make a big move very soon or else a high level of bitterness and envy is around the corner.
And we'll see which one he's going to do.
I think he's so conflicted because a 65-year-old white billionaire is not the future of the current Democratic Party.
Sorry.
And he's already attacked Trump and Elon and everyone on the right so much that they're not going to embrace him.
He's also in Texas.
So, you know, Texas, everything's bigger in Texas.
I just think he's so he's got a lot on his plate, meaning he's got a lot on his mind, meaning I think he's got a lot of moves to make.
Your three options are going to be a very important thing.
You don't think he's qualified to run for 2028?
No, I think he's fully qualified.
I'm saying if he does it as a Republican, there's a no chance for him.
No, no, no.
If he does it as a Democrat, I also think the chances are very limited because of who he is.
No.
A rich white man.
It's just not part of the game plan these days, the way that the current Democratic Party is structured.
See, that's a part where I don't know if I agree with that.
Rob, do me a favor, play this clip.
It's a video I just sent you because a part of it is also seeing how the market reacts to it.
Like, even if you go to the bottom of this comment and you see what other people are saying, let me first show this video.
A guy commented on Mays, who does a pretty good job on Twitter himself.
He was one of the guys that commented on this.
Watch this video of Mark Cuban on Bill Maher when Bill Maher had long hair.
Go ahead.
You're a Trump booster.
You're a supporter.
I'm not going to say that, but I like the fact that he's changing politics.
Oh, I thought you were a Trump supporter.
He talks about you like you are.
Well, he's allowed to do that, but I just like the fact that the political game is no longer the same.
You don't have to be a perfect candidate any longer.
But he's a birther.
Yep.
He's a global warming denier.
Yep.
And he's at least racist adjacent.
Oh, look at the audience.
Is this a clear?
You're not a global warming denier.
And you're not a racist.
And you're not a birther.
How can you like a guy who is all those things?
Because I want to see the political system change.
Period, end of story.
He's not going to win.
He's got no chance.
But someone who is an chance.
He's the leader.
Really?
You think he has no chance?
None.
But as an imperfect candidate being the leader right now, he opens the door for other imperfect candidates because up until now, nothing's going to be wrong.
He's just hopeful.
He's mostly imperfect.
I like that.
White guy politician cut out.
Look, he has to eat those words.
I love that.
The internet is forever.
No chance.
As someone is credible, quote unquote, credible.
Is Mark Cuban come out and saying this must have been in 2015, 2016 when Trump was 2016 was already in the lead?
No chance?
All right.
So that's his legacy on his resume right now.
Yeah, I loved him, and now he was taught to hate him.
I mean, you know, a lot of people get a lot of things wrong.
Trust me.
When you do podcasts for as long as we have, I'm sure we've gotten a lot of things wrong.
You're not going to get things right all the time.
This is why, you know, my dad would always say, never say never, because you have no clue what the hell is going to happen one day.
So he fell for the trap of being part of the 100% community or the 0% community.
And we've all fallen there before.
But the point becomes, you know, with his new play, some are saying he's doing it because he runs a pharmaceutical company and he's going to get to Kamala Harris camp to help him with certain rules and guidelines that he wants to have help him out because that's how he's going to make the big money to go to the next level, et cetera, et cetera.
I don't know.
But when he's up there on Jon Stewart, kind of bashing Elon Musk, well, he's using Twitter to be able to do this.
You would too if you had the money, but you don't.
Well, you know what he's doing?
Yeah, yeah.
You would, too.
You would definitely.
You know what I mean?
Well, it's here.
He's doing.
Yeah, bro.
You just don't have the kind of money that he has to do that.
So what do you want to do about it?
I will tell you, on the left, I'm telling you guys right now, on the left for 2028, the left has to sit there and look at case study of what's working, what's not working.
You ready?
Here's case study.
How did Trump get elected?
Fame, business, success, all of that.
Attitude.
Bloomberg got in.
Bloomberg, the only reason he didn't win is because he doesn't have personality.
He has no clue how to answer.
He was not charismatic.
He was the most boring $100 billion guy ever to run that just wouldn't inspire anybody.
And short.
And short.
Hey, hey.
He's using a stool.
He kept saying he asked for a why you would ask for that.
I'm not going to say that he asked for a stool.
I won't bring it up.
But I heard that he run for the fuel.
Don't want to say it.
So I think Mark Cuban is a top three candidate for the left in 2028.
I think he is.
And he's now going after the two guys because he knows those are the two people.
And by the way, why is he going after algorithm?
Because he doesn't want it to work against him in 2028 when he runs for president.
Good.
If that's what he's doing.
If he doesn't, very disappointing.
Chances he does run for something in 2028.
Well, what's something?
He's not going to do governor of Texas.
You know, that he runs.
You think he's going to run against no president?
If he doesn't, then he's just a mouthpiece.
Then no problem.
But if he doesn't, man.
Yeah.
What a waste of picking fights for no reason.
Yeah.
He's choosing his enemies wisely.
What a waste of picking fights.
I think he's punching up.
Yeah, let's go to the bottom.
Tom, bad managers are, Adam, actually, this is you.
Bad managers are reason enough to quit according to LinkedIn.
Okay.
Here we go.
Let's see if this story is going to cause me to quit or not.
So nearly 70% of U.S. workers will quit their jobs over bad managers according to LinkedIn's latest workforce survey with millennials and Gen Zers being the most likely to leave due to poor management.
Toxic leadership has had significant financial repercussions, contributing to over $223 billion in turnover costs from 2014-29.
Toxin management has also deterred younger employees after pursuing leadership roles with only 33% of employees expressing interest and moving into management positions.
Article emphasized that bad management not only drives employees away, but also undermines workplace morale and productivity.
Bad bosses don't have, don't just cost a company talent.
They just cost them money.
Adam, thoughts on the story?
There's a lot to be said here because we've all had bad managers and there's also bad employees.
And, you know, you can survive a bad manager as a company.
I don't think you can survive a bad founder or leader or man at the top.
So, you know, Pat, you've had how many employees come go at PHP?
I mean, you've signed 10, 50,000?
I mean, I've seen it here at Valtime.
People come and go.
It's just part of the business.
And, you know, there's something called resilience.
And if you're an employee, if you're a manager, if you're an owner, you're going to deal with the good, the bad.
Believe me, I know.
You're going to have good days and bad days.
Or do you have enough to stick it out or not?
Do you believe enough in the vision of the company, in the culture of the company to stick it out?
So as companies get bigger, you're going to start to see that culture is no longer going to be the highest priority.
It's going to be efficiency.
And as a where do you fit in the machine, in the cog of the machine as the employee.
So most employees, I'll just say it, are just there for a paycheck.
Or else, why the hell are they there?
Where you find out who really cares is do they even care if they're getting their paycheck?
Do they even ask for a raise?
Like, that's how you care.
If you find out if someone actually wants to be there, the you can tell somebody wants to be there if they're asking for a raise.
If they're not asking for a raise.
So if somebody who's asking for a raise, he wants to be there.
No, what I'm saying is, if someone wants to be there, they're not worried about whether they're making X or Y.
They want to be there.
They'll figure it out.
This whole concept of that the managers are enough reason to quit, that's part of the reason.
But there's a multitude of reasons.
So I don't know who, I don't know if this was a story.
I'm still waiting for your point, bro.
This is the story you wanted to talk about.
I wanted to have a conversation about this.
But I'm trying to see your point.
You chose the story.
I wanted to discuss this, but the fact is, leadership at the top is the real reason that somebody comes or leaves a company.
Managers.
There's a lot of value to the story because I agree with the story.
So I'm trying to, okay, Tom, what would you say about the story?
I completely agree with it.
People quit on people.
They don't necessarily.
I agree.
They don't quit on companies and vision.
For sure.
And managers, if the managers are aligned with leadership and they are selling the vision, reminding them the vision and the cause, and they're being properly recognized, properly mentored, they don't quit.
It's so simple.
I love this vision.
I love this company.
And my boss is helping mentor me and getting me from here to here.
And I like working here.
Those people don't quit, but they sure as hell quit on bad managers.
They quit on people.
Yeah.
So, you know, it's funny.
This last week, we had our Monday.
We had our, what do you call it? Our quarterly meeting with the crew.
Executive meeting with the crew, right?
Four seasons.
We're having our meeting.
And at the end of the meeting, normally throughout the entire meeting, what I'll do is I'll show you pictures of it.
I'll get on there and I'll write out exactly what was talked about on things that we have to improve.
And this is what it'll look like.
Okay.
Just to kind of show you what it looks like.
It looks like this.
And this is my handwriting.
It starts off with improvement.
Okay.
Things that we have to improve in.
Then goes to ideas.
Okay.
And we come up with a bunch of different ideas.
And then it comes to departments, how much you can do, how much that person can do.
Which company is growing the most?
Which company is adding the most revenue?
Which company is percentage?
You know, how's Manek doing?
How's BDC doing?
How's this doing?
How's that doing?
You know what was number two?
Yeah, check this out.
You know what was number one area of improvement?
Middle management.
Okay?
What's middle management?
Middle management.
So you got C-suite executives.
You got people that report to me directly.
The only people that can report to me directly are people that are, things can get done through them.
If I can't get things done through you, you can't report to me.
So like we have some people that I'm like, oh my God, I tried this.
I tried.
Nope, not going to get done through me.
I need somebody for you to go work with, but you can't be reporting to me directly if things are not getting done through you.
You're not a good manager.
There are process people, there's managers.
And sometimes companies don't use enough strength finders to see who does a job better than another job.
One of the best lines that gave me a lot of perspective on what somebody can do is Einstein said, if you ask a fish to climb a tree, he will feel stupid, right?
Sometimes we put people in certain jobs that they feel stupid.
And it is the job of the leaders to position them in a better place to do better jobs.
Now, sometimes some people are just bad employees.
They have bad attitude.
They're entitled.
They're negative.
They're insecure.
They're always worried.
They go from job to job to job to job to job.
That exists as well.
But I do think that this is an epidemic that's going on within businesses, middle management.
This is why we are, you know, every single year we make a lot of investments into these types of things.
Like even this year for the Vault Conference, there's four people we're bringing into the Vault Conference for specific reasons.
Number one is Dwayne DeRock Johnson, because I think storytelling and making content go viral is critical.
And nobody tells stories better than Dwayne DeRock Johnson.
Number two, Nick Sabin.
Why Nick Sabin?
You know how hard it is to win seven national championships?
It's easy to win.
It's easier to win seven NFL championships than seven collar championships because your players are always leaving you in two years.
So it's a new quarterback.
It's a new this.
So how do you think he is with conflict resolution?
How do you think he is with leadership?
How do you think he is with setting the tone challenge?
And then you have Will Gutera, who ran the number one restaurant, makes it in three Michelin star, and then sells it, makes a ton of money.
He's going to talk about unreasonable hospitality and how do you deal with customers that are bitching, complaining, and how to keep your employees high expectation, high standard, but happy enough to serve other people well.
And then Max Techmark, who's one of the AI King Kongs, wrote a book called Life 3.0.
But to me, and we're doing this at Palm Beach Convention Center, if you guys haven't gotten a ticket, you can go to vtmerch.com or put up the QR code, Rob, to go to it.
But I think the management side is super critical.
I think most companies don't make enough investments in their middle management to get better.
They just assume their middle managers are going to get better.
They're worried about spending money to send the guy to this thing or to that thing that, hey, it's going to cost us a lot of money.
And I'll never forget one of the best quotes by this CO and the CFO.
The CFO comes up to the CEO and he says, hey, man, why are we investing so much money in education of sending these managers out to these events?
Why spend all this money?
Because why would we want them to get better?
And what if they get better and they leave us to another company?
And it's the best line what the CEO says.
He says, imagine we don't and they stay.
Wow.
Imagine we don't and they stay.
The cost of that.
So I think sometimes the entrepreneur, the founders, they got to invest a little bit more money into their middle managers.
Tom, I want to come to this next story that you were talking about.
And if you want to combine two stories together, you can.
Suddenly, hourly workers aren't so hard to find.
This is according to WSJ Wall Street Journal.
Apparently now we're starting to find hourly workers.
So let me read this and then I'm coming to you.
The hourly labor market once booming is now showing signs of strain, similar to the white collar economy.
While jobs remain available, the hiring frenzy is over with employers like ABM Industries even posting signs saying we are currently not hiring.
Can you imagine that?
Some companies like Daycare, Giant Bright Horizons, and Defense Contractor, General Dynamics report easier hiring, while others like Spirit Airlines and John Deere have cut significant portions of their hourly workforce, reflecting a broader focus on cost cutting over expansion.
A silent layoff is occurring as companies reduce their workforce through attrition.
Workers are feeling the pinch with job seekers like Matt Newell struggling to find roles despite extensive experience.
The market is feeling balanced, but opportunities are fewer and competition is fierce, leading to frustrations for many seeking employment.
Tom.
Well, here's what's happening.
Companies are keeping quality.
If you're a quality person, the companies are keeping you.
And if you're not a quality person, you're now part of too much supply of part-time workers and people are having a hard time finding jobs.
We're also finding people, the U.S. has got a productivity boost that's been happening.
So the people that are in jobs are working hard and companies are getting productivity out of them.
And so right now, you want to do a seasonal pop or something.
Hourly workers aren't hard to find because there's a lot of people out there.
The unemployment rate is 4.3%, heading toward 5% over the course of the next six months, I believe, because companies are trimming.
And you're seeing it in the stock market, PBD.
Companies are profitable.
And so how do you become more profitable?
You reduce expenses if your sales are flat in a recession.
Or while sales are growing, you scale by being even more efficient.
And so companies are keeping quality and it's putting, you know, the lower quality people are out there and the unemployment rate's going up because the people that are high quality are working are more productive.
And so now it's harder for people that want a job hop just to find a job.
And the days of holding somebody for hostage and saying, I don't want 15 an hour.
I want 20 an hour and I need to bring my dog to work.
But we work from home.
Those days are sliding off.
This is a run to quality.
Adam.
Yeah, I'm trying to find, I haven't worked hourly in years, so I'm just trying to understand really how this shapes the marketplace.
Like, I don't, as a business owner, what should business owners be aware of?
What's going on in the marketplace?
This is sort of not my wheelhouse right now, but summer's kind of coming to an end.
Summer jobs are coming to an end.
We're about to hit Q4 in a little bit.
We saw what happened in the market last week where unemployment, what was it, the Pam sign that basically once the unemployment rate hits anywhere close to 4.8%, it sort of triggers the stock market to go crazy.
We saw what happened, but the reality is it's closure to 4.3.
How are you processing this story as a business owner, Brad?
The whole hourly workers aren't hard to find.
You know, for me, I'm not involved in this drama of hourly workers or not.
I'm involved in finding good people.
You know, we were at Goldman Sachs and they said every year they told us the number of people submitting resumes to work for the company.
And it was astronomical.
And I came back and I talked to RJ.
I said, give me a low week, give me a high week on the number of resumes we get.
You know what the number is on a weekly basis?
We get 1,500 to 3,000 resumes sent to us on a weekly basis.
Get out of here.
Not at all.
By the way, I'm blown away by that number.
Wow.
1,500 to 3,000 employees, 3,000 resumes on a weekly basis.
We're getting a small little company that just three years ago, we had eight employees.
Then we had, I don't know, a year ago, 45, 50 employees.
We're at 115 employees right now full-time.
You know what's funny?
Most people that come here don't even know what the hell we're doing.
Yes or no?
You're right.
It's just going, wait, what the hell is that?
No, no.
Most people come in and say, well, you're the podcast guy, right?
And then they go, wait, you guys run a consulting firm and you guys do this and you guys own this and you guys own that and you guys, product development, machine learning engineers.
Like right now, we're building an aggregator, news aggregator that's going to be unfreaking bullying.
We have 15 machine learning engineers right now that are developing the news.
Like right now, watch a lot of people watch this podcast, right?
You know what they ask for?
Can I get the notes?
How do you guys come up with the notes?
What if I want to know story?
How do you guys get all this stuff?
Guess what?
We finally said, we want to give you access on exactly what we have.
So we hired 15 machine learning guys that is going to go on a news site, do the research for you.
It's non-emotional.
It's straight up.
You just go in there and say, I just want this.
I want the facts.
What are the lopsided stories?
What's going on over here?
Can I go back to the timeline?
Why is there a spike on this story?
Stuff that just doesn't exist.
We're going to provide that to you.
So to me, I'm not involved in the job, you know, hourly and all this stuff.
If you're a kick-ass employee, if you love the company, if you love the vision, if you match up with the stuff that we're looking for right now, let's freaking roll.
In about two weeks, in the next two to four weeks, a video is going to be launched to the public of me going through the entire values and principles of what it takes to work over here, who are the ideal tops of candidates that work for us, who doesn't work for us, and we made mistakes God knows how many times.
But it's going to go through exactly the culture, how we process issues.
And but yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, the hourly stuff, it's happened to marketplace for us.
A person that's running their business, they're just looking for good talent.
Rob, but to talk about this, I thought the former CEO of Google said something yesterday that shook up the market that he had to come back and apologize for it.
Rob, there's two clips.
Is this the right one?
Because this is the one that talks about.
This is the first one.
This is the first when the story broke.
This is the story that was based on this clip: him saying the reason why Google AI race play this clip.
You're a Google employee.
Yes.
In the spirit of full disclosure, Google decided that work-life balance and going home early and working from home was more important than winning.
Bingo.
Whale.
We've been saying that for a while.
And the startups, the reason startups work is because the people work like hell.
And I'm sorry to be so blunt.
But the fact of the matter is, if you all leave the university and go found a company, you're not going to let people work from home and only come in one day a week if you want to compete against the other startups.
Did you get it?
Yes.
Of course.
You're going to bring your ass in.
You think value tame it would work if you came in two or three days, you stayed at home, and you let all of us stay home and just come in to do a podcast.
It would fail.
All the people upstairs?
Are you crazy?
Do you know what's so-why to fail?
You get your butt kicked by the guy that's working hard.
That's what I'm saying.
By the way, watch this.
Who's saying this?
A former comedian.
Yeah.
A comedian who's been in Hollywood movies creative.
A creative is saying this.
Yeah.
Think about coming from the creep.
And who are the people typically that would like to have that lifestyle?
That would like to be.
The creativity.
You don't have to stay home.
Do you know how much of an advantage a creative has if they understand that concept?
Tom, when he said, by the way, he says this, okay?
And then after saying this, story comes out a few hours later, Vinny.
Okay.
Eric Schmidt walks back, claims Google is behind on AI because of remote work.
Oh, really?
Wall Street Journal.
So he says, ex-CEO, executive chairman at Google, walk back remarks and wish the former company was losing the AI race because of its remote.
He says, I misspoke about Google and the work hours.
The truth came out by the time I was in the middle.
I regret my error.
I wonder who called him afterwards.
What do you think happened for him to do that?
You did not misspeak, Eric Schmidt.
Go ahead, Tom.
No, no, no.
Let me tell you.
You know, misspoke is, hey, you know, the unemployment rate's like close to 5%.
You know what, guys?
I misspoke.
It's a little over 4%, 4.3.
I'm sorry.
I kind of misspoke there in the moment when I was recap.
Because it's one thing.
You see that, Vinny?
It's just like, it's like an element.
I misspoke.
Instead, he misspoke while he was speaking a paragraph about working from home.
That's not misspoke.
That is, I told the truth.
My phone rang, and now I'm running back to the microphone because I've got a mark on my face.
That's what happened.
Yeah, he had to walk back some comments.
He had to apologize to somebody or something.
But usually the first thing you say, that's how you feel.
Of course.
And then someone will be like, well, you'll be like, all right, fine.
I guess I'll go.
But he meant what he said, and he said what he meant.
That's basically what it is.
But the truth is, if you're part of it, by the way, when I interview guys that are working here, one of the first things I ask is, I used to not ask this question.
I say, so tell me, have you ever worked for a startup founder before?
Oh, yeah.
Tell me his name.
And I straight up start Googling him.
And when he worked for him, had he already sold the business or was he still founder?
No, was your 10 of the company?
No, that's the difference.
So did he ever build any other businesses afterwards?
What was it like working with the founder?
Well, he would call me on Saturdays and Sundays.
Or they'll say, yeah, I worked with him, but the founder was with them for seven years.
From the beginning to seven years, yeah.
No shit.
Did you like it?
Oh, it was crazy.
And then what'd you do?
Well, right afterwards, I went to a big company.
I said, now you want to come back to a founder again?
Yeah.
So you sure you want this?
What does your wife say about this?
Well, before we make this decision, I got to meet your wife.
So these are things that you kind of go through because trust me, as exhilarating as it is to be part of a startup.
Like, listen, there's people that have worked with me in the past before with startups, and they made a lot of money.
And then now they're kind of comfortable living on an island.
Nobody sees them coming in late anymore.
And nobody sees them leaving in early.
And nobody sees them doing certain things that maybe nobody will catch them.
And they're like, you know who you are.
And they'll say, I never want to work with that motherfucker.
But damn, I'm glad we made a lot of money together because it takes a lot of brass to want to keep working.
A lot of guys that work with Elon maybe don't want to work, but a lot of guys came back.
If you read his book, Elon's like, some of these guys came back saying, freaking, I went to a safe place.
I was sick of it.
I wanted to go back and work at a place that's growing.
But it's not the straight up honest answer is it's not for everybody.
It's just not.
It's not.
A guy asked me a question on Manek yesterday.
I love this girl.
Been with her for four years.
I love her.
She wants me to marry her.
However, she doesn't like the fact that I work long hours to build my business and we're politically on different pages.
Recipe for disaster?
Recipe for disaster.
Recipe for disaster.
Big time.
Big time.
Sorry, the truth hurts.
I tell you right quick.
I just said.
He messaged me too.
Give 50% of everything you own to some charity and throw yourself down a flight of stairs and save yourself the four years.
Yeah.
There you go.
There you go.
So let's see.
What story have we not gone through yet, Vinny?
Is there any more women skipping college?
Let's go to the UK one.
Let's go to the UK.
All three of you wanted to say stuff on this.
UK police commissioner threatens to extradite, jail U.S. citizens over online posts will come after you.
Okay.
Rob, is this the clip?
Yes.
Rob, guys, this is my only warning.
Be careful when you watch this because it may inspire you to want to move to UK.
Go ahead, Rod.
Obviously, that's a joke, but go ahead.
We will throw the full force of the law of people.
And whether you're in this country committing crimes on the streets or committing crimes from further afield online, we will come after you.
Talk to me about that because you could see some high-profile figures whipping up the hatred.
You talked about it in there with the offices, in fact, about this being added to by online commentary.
I mean, I'm even thinking of the likes of Elon Musk getting involved.
What are you considering when it comes to dealing with people who are whipping up this kind of behaviour from behind a keyboard maybe in a different country?
Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law.
You can be guilty of offenses of incitement, of stirring up racial hatred.
There are numerous offenses regarding the sort of publishing of material.
Publishing.
All of those offences are in play if people are provoking hatred and violence on the streets.
And we'll come after those individuals just as we will physically confront on the streets the thugs and the obs who are taking who are causing the problems for communities.
Come get me, Nigel.
Like, yeah, good.
So what they're doing, and I know Rob has another clip, Pat, about somebody getting, guys, and really, really picture this.
Somebody getting 20 months in prison because they said online that some of these migrants, and guys, I hate to be the bearer of bad news because I know we have UK people out there.
You guys know the truth.
A lot of these people are committing crimes.
It's like, by the way, the UK is cooked.
France, Germany, all I see online, and it's not isolated incidents, are migrants that are there that are using knives and harassing women and stealing people and stabbing people.
And just because I say that, like, what was that one story, PBD?
We did a couple of podcasts back where these guys raped a girl at one of these parks.
I don't know where it was.
Somewhere in Europe.
They called, they went on WhatsApp, invited more people.
None of them were born in the country.
They're all from different places.
And they kept raping this girl.
The girl that tweeted and said, hey, these guys are pieces of scum.
She did jail time.
And the guys that did the raping didn't.
Okay?
I'm just warning everybody that's at home.
What these people want.
You verified that, Rob.
That's insane to me.
It was, I reported on it.
I remember this.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah, Rob can find it.
Yeah, because apparently PBD2, they followed her in the park.
They raped this underage girl.
And then they kept calling their other friends.
They all came.
I think there was like 15, 11 or 15 of them.
They came.
They arrested them, but they released all of them.
And the girl that commented on the raper, she got jail time.
The other ones were all released.
And that happened somewhere in the UK.
But anyway, my point being said is, guys, what's happening in the UK right now, not being able to speak the truth and voice your opinion is exactly what this, the Biden, the Kamala, this whole left, they want this to happen here.
And it's number one is to shut us up.
Don't say anything.
It's all terrorist threats.
And the second one, which they always do, that's why every time there's a shooting, it's, you know, get rid of the guns.
Don't get it twisted.
They want socialism and it leads to Marxism.
And is this it?
This is the there's a video, Rob, of the guy with the wig.
So Pat, this is, by the way, the fact that he's wearing a wig is it's hilarious.
Not as good as your mustache.
It's hilarious, but that's their uniform for court.
The judges wear that.
That's what you guys want, Tom.
I wear uniforms.
They're called costumes, but it's on Halloween.
So listen, this is him giving him 20.
I'm not saying it doesn't look silly.
He's ridiculous.
He's not coming to work black.
Pat, I might go to jail because of this.
But look, go ahead.
Listen what he's giving him prison for.
Go ahead.
You have been committed for sentence, having pleaded guilty to an offence of publishing written material, which is threatening, abusive, or insulting, intending thereby to stir up racial hatred.
The context of your offending is that it arises out of the civil unrest and disorder in many parts of the United Kingdom.
On the night of the 2nd and 3rd of August, the Britannia Hotel in Leeds was attacked by people who threw missiles, which damaged windows.
The police were called, and on the 3rd of August, the hotel was locked down for the protection of those who were living there.
This is the clip of him discussing the menu, many of whom were foreign refugees and asylum seekers.
Similar attacks to the hotel were launched on the 4th of August.
The police attended on each occasion, and units were deployed to safeguard the hotel and to provide an increase in the police presence in the area.
In between the two attacks, you took to social media in order to encourage others towards participation in the attacks upon the hotel.
As is recognized on your behalf, this offense is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable.
How long?
20 months.
And listen, they lowered it to 20 months.
It was supposed to be more.
This is it right here, Rob.
This guy, you can listen to my 5.05.
Like he needs to drink what Ben drinks.
Go ahead.
The sentence that I pass has been reduced by one-third to reflect your guilty plea.
The sentence is one of 20 months imprisonment.
My goodness.
You will serve up to one half of your sentence in custody before you are released on license.
If you fail to abide by the conditions of your license, you can be returned to prison to serve some or all of the remainder of the custodial term.
How do you prosecute this stuff?
Two ways.
First of all, the bonkers laws in the UK that are saying that someone who, through freedom of speech, says something, even if they're saying, hey, get down to the hotel and stop these guys, which is what that guy did, is that that is somehow now accessory to a greater crime.
And basically, it is anti-freedom of speech and it's meant to shut everybody up.
So I think that's kind of bonkers.
The police commissioner saying, we're going to come over to the United States, we're going to extradite you.
No, no, no, that's not going to work.
The last time the British came over here to come after citizens, George Washington got an army and kicked their ass.
Yeah, good luck.
So good luck with that.
Which is why the election is so important.
Tom's getting emotional.
He's getting emotional.
It's okay, Tom.
And by the way, so about why he's...
I need more coffee there, Tom.
There's more to this story that you guys are.
By the way while you're going through it, let me just show one thing.
Rob, can you pull up that one story about how many people got arrested?
This is it.
Men jailed for encouraging unrest on social media.
Hang on, this is what I want to show.
Golor, it shows how many people have.
Yeah, but there's a report right before it that actually shows the exact number.
Can you imagine that?
Some 741 people have now been arrested, of which 302 have been charged.
The National Police Chief Counsel said 741, 42 people, 302.
And then the story that Vinny brought up in last year.
Just to make sure you guys know what I'm talking about.
So this is in Germany.
The woman was convicted of offending the migrant gang rapists that she received longer prison sentences.
The 20-year-old girl has been, she was put in prison for posting about the migrants saying that it was harmful towards the rapists.
And these guys, all the guys, there was 11 men that were charged for raping this girl.
Two of them were acquitted because lack of evidence of DNA.
And by the way, these guys, they all had German passports, but they were all from identified as from Polish, Egyptian, Libyan, Kuwait, Iranian and Armenian, Afghan, Syria and a Montenegrin were there.
They got she got more time for going online and she messaged him on WhatsApp and said, you're a disgusting human being for raping this girl.
She got more prison time than the guys that are actually doing the raping.
Can you, can you, so who's being protected?
So, so, Pat, going to that story, if you go online and you say these migrants are raping people, the government is going to come after you to put you in jail for talking shit about them.
So, what does that mean?
They're protecting these people because they want that migration.
They want to change the whole freaking culture.
They want to tear down the system.
Am I right, Tom?
You're right.
It's a globalist agenda and you're protecting the interlopers that they want there to assimilate into the society, to dilute the society, to take down the walls so that the globalist agenda can be there.
This is all part of the globalist agenda.
Yeah, and don't let it come here, guys, because that's what they're trying to do.
And I say this all the time, Adam, and I'm sorry, I'll let you go.
If you don't think that this government, the government's happening right now, would gladly, if we were like, hey, you know what?
Number one, we all want to give you our guns.
You don't think that they would take it?
Number two, if we said, hey, guys, you know what?
This whole X and somebody said something mean, we want you guys to monitor it.
Please, please do what they're doing in the UK.
Don't think for two seconds that they wouldn't do it.
This government would love, love to be totalitarianism on us and just completely control us and do whatever they want.
AOC and Omar support the position.
Yeah, for sure they do.
Adam.
Radical Islamic terrorism.
That's where I'll start what I have to say.
What you guys are missing is there's a lot of reasoning behind what's going on here.
So a lot of the issues that we're dealing here in America today are the exact same issues that they're dealing with in Europe.
All over many countries are dealing with this.
The biggest difference is the following.
We're getting a lot of people from different countries, but it's mainly people coming in through Mexico, through Lua.
And they don't have a particular ideology other than they're either here to A, have a better life or B, take advantage of the system and do that.
The exact same thing is going on in Europe.
The only challenge is there's an ideology there.
Because Latin America, Central America, for the most part, these are Catholic, Christian countries, if religion is even involved.
In North Africa, in the Middle East, people that come from Europe, it's a lot of people from the Islam faith, a lot of Muslims.
And I don't really, this is not something I wake up and think about every day, what's going on in the EU.
Now, in my former relationship, she was from London.
I would spend every summer in London.
She was from Wales.
I would see what's going on.
And I would go to different neighborhoods.
Oh, we can't go there.
We got to go here.
This is Brick Lane.
That's where the Indian people are in Bangladesh.
Okay, cool.
We're going to the Muslims.
All right, I'm learning this culture.
I was like, holy shit.
My first time in London, UK, I was like, I didn't realize there met this many brown people here.
Straight up.
It's always been uncomfortable.
It's an uncomfortable situation.
You know what it is, Pat.
And this is coming from two brown people.
Exactly.
So what's happened in the last six months?
Adam's always been a little bit uncomfortable with brown people.
Hey, listen, I'm down for whatever.
What's happened in the last six months?
The Tory Party, which is the longest-standing greatest political affiliation party of all time, Winston Churchill, Madrick, Margaret, just suffered a horrible loss.
Like got their ass kicked by the Labor Party, this guy, Kara Starber.
So the biggest reason he got his ass kicked is because they promised to curb immigration and immigration doubled.
So are you familiar with this guy, Tommy Smith?
Yeah, I love that guy.
You heard about this guy?
Tommy Steve.
I'm sorry, Tommy Robinson.
Tommy Robinson.
Tommy Robinson, I'm thinking about.
If you familiar with Tommy Robinson?
He was a backup running back.
Tommy Robinson.
Yes, Tommy Robinson.
He's been very critical.
Now, Andrew Tate is probably going to have to, you see what Andrew Tate said on your boy's show?
Which one's my boy?
Pierce Morgan.
Yeah.
Weird stuff going right now.
Basically, the UK has fallen.
It's cooked.
And it's cooked.
And you remember the song from R.E.M., Losing My Religion?
Yeah.
That's what's going on here.
Losing their country.
Is that they are losing their faith.
They are losing their identity.
They are losing their religion.
So there's a lot of Christian countries out there, Judeo-Christian values, that are looking around and being like, so now we're doing the Sharia law thing.
This is what's going on in London?
This is what's going on in Paris.
This is what's going on in Amsterdam.
This is what's going on.
Now, respect.
What I love about the United States is you can be Jewish, Christian, Catholic.
It doesn't matter.
The difference is in a lot of these countries, what happens is a first generation comes in, you assimilate.
So your parents, they came here for the first time.
The next generation, the kids, they assimilate.
That's why Pat says, I'm born in Iran, made in America.
So you assimilate, you embrace, you unify.
That's not what they're doing when they go to the UK, especially the more radicalized people.
They basically want to tear the system down, burn it down, and make it their own.
It's no secret.
And I'm not talking about the moderates.
I'm not talking about people who are just there to blend in and be part of embrace society.
I'm talking about the radicals.
And the radical Islamic terrorists, this part of this jihad-Sharia law thing is exactly what's going on in London in the UK.
So what's happening is twofold.
It's the immigration, and then it's part of immigration is they're taking the working class jobs.
So there's economic situation in here.
And you basically have white guys from London, from the UK.
I mean, Tom, you know what white guys are?
This is kind of their hood that are like, oh, Mike, what the hell's going on around here?
Like, I remember growing up here.
And it's not so much the migrants that's a part of it.
It's the economic ramifications that they're dealing with, the migrants.
But then there's all the ideology.
And then you throw on little situations like that that will create a basic powder keg.
There was little girls dancing in a Taylor Swift class that got stabbed up.
Stabbed up by a guy that was by a guy who had radical ideology.
And then all of a sudden there's stabbings that are going on.
And then there was a terrorist by the terrorist.
Taylor Swift had to cancel three concerts back to back to back because ISIS, they're back, everybody.
Apparently, not under Trump, but under Biden.
They're back and they were threatening to blow up bombs and all that type of stuff.
I'm sorry, Tommy, for saying Tommy Robinson.
He said the following.
We're losing our country.
We're losing our culture.
Our identity is under attack by Islamic jihad militants.
The police and government are absolute cowards.
The police run away and hide when the Muslims come out and protest.
People are getting stabbed.
Girls are getting killed.
It's not about race.
It's not about skin.
It's not about color.
I don't care if you're Sikh.
I don't care if you're Hindu.
I don't care if you're Jewish.
I don't care if you're Christian.
I don't care if you're Muslim.
But the radical Muslim ideology is permeating all through UK and Europe.
And that's what he's saying.
Yep.
And I mean, it's a good idea.
So if you can't see it, admit it.
And you know what the message is?
If you can't see it and admit it and then go on a social media platform and go, hey, guys, it's not good.
And then you get 20 months in prison.
Guys, when I say they're cooked, they're cooked.
It's over.
And then he said, my last point, he goes, why isn't Egypt taking people in?
Why isn't Iran taking people in?
Why isn't Saudi taking people in?
Why isn't Syria taking people in?
Why isn't Lebanon taking people in?
Why isn't Jordan taking people in?
I can go country after country after country after country.
But here you have these Judeo-Christian Christian nations in the EU accepting all these migrants, and now they are changing their culture.
Good luck changing Islamic culture in their country.
That's happening.
Not going to happen, but they'll do it in Christian cultures.
So that's why I saw a guy like this is very upset.
And that's why someone like Andrew Tate is kind of stuck in the middle.
Rough spot to be in, but he knows how to maneuver through these types of situations.
If there's a guy that can pull it off, it's him.
But let me wrap it up with the story, okay?
Because I'm trying to bring the temperature down to wrap it up.
Iran appears to back threats of retaliation against Israel.
Okay, so this is one story.
Next one, Iran not expected to attack Israel if ceasefire agreed with Hamas, says Joe Biden.
Then the next story in Gaza, Israel's military has reached the end of line.
U.S. officials say that Israel has achieved all it can militarily in Gaza with further operations, only increasing civilian risks and would never be able to completely eliminate Hamas.
Okay.
Israel operations have severely set back Hamas, killing or capturing around 14,000 combatants and damaging supply routes, but the group remains a diminished force rather than being annihilated.
And then Iran emerges as the most aggressive foreign threat to U.S. elections.
So these stories that are coming out left-right with Iran and Israel.
Tom, question for you.
One, Iran has claimed they're going to retaliate after what Israel did, taking out who they took out.
One, do you think now, since it's been a minute, there is going to be an attack?
Two, you think they're not going to do anything?
Three, do you think they're afraid if they do attack that Israel is going to attack and U.S. is going to defend Israel's attack against Iran?
Where are you at today?
There's three steps to it.
I don't think they're going to attack today.
That's my headline.
There are three steps.
Step one, we are going to attack you.
It is going to happen.
We will not tolerate what you did.
And we are going to attack you.
And step two, the world expected 50 missiles to land in a cornfield, right?
Like they did.
By the way, that's what happened.
I'm not trying to be funny.
That's what happened, what, three months ago, correct?
Yes.
Then step three, you know, they said, no, no, no, we're really, really going to do it.
And Israel said, don't you flipping dare.
And they know how serious Israel is.
And so Israel before kind of knows.
And so they would lead the temperature down a little bit and say, look, they're going to drop a bunch of small rockets in a cornfield.
Just chill.
They're going to do that thing to try to save face with the brotherhood of the anti-Israel countries.
And step three comes and Israel said, dude, if you're really serious this time and you launch anything against real military targets or against our citizens, you have no idea what I will effing do.
Now then, also, also, step three was happening with Trump up in the polls.
So I think Iran has looked at that chessboard and they can't play the game that they played four months ago.
So I don't think there's going to be an attack.
And I think Israel has called their bluff and they haven't backed down to Israel.
They've just gone quiet.
But I don't think they're going to do it.
Adam.
So I mean this sincerely.
What war has Iran won in the last 40 years?
What military victory has Iran done?
I'm genuinely posing a question.
You would know this more than me.
They had the war with Saddam Hussein in the 80s with Iraq, right?
I think Iran, you know, we've been sort of trained as Americans there.
Iran, oh my God, they're going to do so.
What have they ever done?
All they've ever done is fund terrorists around the region and sow discord throughout the Middle East.
They're a regional annoyance that has a harder, their bark is louder than their bite.
And Israel knows that.
Now, Israel is sitting in a position right now where, you know, we hear the terms existential threat, existential threat, existential threat.
Israel is literally getting existential threats at all corners.
You know the foundation of why it's called an existential threat?
Because it's a threat for you to actually exist.
So here's how Israel's position is something, remember Samson in the Bible?
Yes.
Remember the story with Samson where he basically they cut off his hair and he lost his power, but he regained it and then he basically tore down the columns of the walls and he killed all the people that basically were holding him captive.
Exactly.
He sacrificed himself.
So Israel has something called the Samson option.
And they're like, okay, listen, here's how we operate, guys.
We're a little teeny tiny country with constant existential threats surrounded by terrorist organizations in terrorist countries, the Triple H crew founded by Iran, the Houthis, Hamas, and Hezbollah.
And they're potentially at war with three, four of all at the same time.
We know what's going on there.
At any single point, every Israeli citizen knows, boom, get into the shelter.
So the Samson option is the following.
Oh, we're telling you straight up right now.
You just saw what happened in Gaza.
Hey, Hezbollah, which basically has sort of hijacked a former Christian-esque Arab Muslim country, Lebanon.
Yeah, we're not just going to come after Hezbollah.
We're going to you up, Lebanon.
Oh, Houthi rebels, you want to come after us?
You know how Trump says, yeah, you punch me, I'm going to punch you back 10 times harder?
That's what Israel's saying.
They're saying, if you come after us, we're going to you up.
We have no choice.
So you hear these things like these deterrence.
This guy was giving an interview.
It's actually an interesting story here.
He's a former Israeli commander and he talks with a very thick accent.
And I couldn't understand if he was saying a terrorist or deterrence.
It's a deterrent.
You have to deter the terrorists with the deterrence for the terrorists.
And I realized that this interchangeable word, deterrence and terrorists, he's like, you have to basically make sure that they understand.
Dude, if you do this, Hezbollah, Iran, the coups force, whoever is, we're going to f ⁇ you up.
We have no choice.
We're a little teeny tiny country that is nuclear armed with their, they're basically the Silicon Valley of the Middle East.
And whether you agree with their policies or not, I'm just letting you know this is how they feel.
If they feel like there's an existential threat on their existence, they're going to f ⁇ you up.
So this is the reason Iran, death to America, death to Israel.
You know, you said that they shoot 40 rocks into a cornfield, whatever the hell it is.
That's what they did three months ago, right?
Iran knows that if they truly try to do something, that their entire regime is going to get peace through strength works.
That's how it works.
It's the Reagan approach.
So PBD, because I want to ask you, and I'm being genuine.
So, you know, Trump, Trump is not the president.
He's the next president.
Could he still get involved right now to try to do something in regard to the Israel Hamas ceasefire thing to help his campaign?
Meaning, like if he broke his, is he legally allowed to, Tom, to, because I know he spoke with Netanyahu was there last month.
He spoke with everybody.
He was a, he, you know, had the standing ovation and stuff in Congress.
A report came out yesterday on Reuters, PBD.
I send this to Rob.
Trump and Nanyahu speak about Gaza hostage ceasefire deal.
And then a couple hours later, Axio said, well, we can't confirm or deny.
But the story came out yesterday on Reuters.
Republican candidate Donald Trump spoke on the phone with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nanyahu on Wednesday and discussed the Gaza ceasefire and Hasid's release deal.
Question is, how can he do that?
And number two, how big of a of a you know campaign boost would that be if he freaking helped get hostages out and?
And Joe Biden could not do it, the?
The short answer is yes, he can.
I mean, you had a governor without permission went to China Gavin Newsom.
You had a NBA player went to North Korea, Dennis Rodman, to speak to um Kim Young-un's dad, and you can do whatever you want in this country.
Sean Penn has gone to foreign countries and talked to people.
You, as a citizen, can do whatever you want now, can Trump, disclose things that he knows as president.
No, he can't be doing that.
But good luck, good luck proving it, and I don't think he would do anything crazy like that.
But he, for his campaign, just like Gavin Newsom, went to China.
He could go over there and say, listen, if I am elected, I have your back or i'm gonna do this.
There's nothing wrong with that.
There's also one little caveat here.
So do you know that?
Uh, since the war the, you know this access of resistance that has been formed between Russia Iran, North Korea and China.
So that's the, that's their crew.
You know, you pick your team guys, you want to be on America democracies, the EU Israel, like those you know Argentina, or you want to be on China Russia Iran, North Korea.
That's basically the crew, and what's happening now is don't look now and i'm not saying that i'm pro or against this that this is just what's happening is Ukraine has done a counteroffensive against Russia.
Have you noticed that?
By the way, did you see the story that came out about Ukraine, Zelensky today?
Yeah, what about the?
About the North Stream pipeline?
Yeah yes, which can?
We can bring that.
But let me just finish this one little point.
Russia and Iran are very strange uh, allies in terms of weapons because uh, Russia produces a certain types of weapons and Iran produces a certain types of weapons, so they have some alliance there.
Have you familiar with this at all?
So what happened is now that Russia has basically said, oh shit, like Ukraine's back in it.
You know like we pass a lot of funding to Ukraine.
Don't forget, these guys can't trade with the rest of the world, they're trading with each other.
So now they're looking at each other.
And Russia goes, yeah Iran, we're gonna need some of those uh, those weapons, and Iran's like yeah no, like we were gonna maybe use them against these guys.
They're like, nah we, we need them now.
So there's this weird thing going on here.
So, like the whole peace, truth through strength thing, there's a lot of dominoes right here.
Whether you agree with the Ukraine war or not, that's irrelevant.
It's the fact that they're putting pressure on Russia.
Now Russia can't sell more arms to Iran, and that whole situation.
Listen, this may be the craziest story that came up this morning Ukrainian.
Ukrainian team blew up North Stream pipeline claims reports.
Spokesperson for Zelensky denies WALL Street Journal's claims.
This is not Daily MAIL, they're talking about.
WALL Street Journal reports this and they said, no, you guys are wrong.
And again accuses Russia of carrying out the.
What was it, Rob?
Go to the top carrying out the North Stream sabotage.
Now let's let's actually read this entire article, Rob.
Is this the WSJ one or do you have the whole thing for me to read?
Let me see if I can get the WS.
I want to read the entire article that talks about this, because at the beginning, When this happened, we all know who they blamed.
Everybody and their mothers looked at who.
Vladimir Putin, you know what?
Because they said that some analysts and commentators, it was everybody, but it said that basically, PBD, that it put him blowing it up would put pressure on Europe by damaging the pipeline.
Russia could escalate the energy crisis in Europe.
That was the main thing, especially in the winter months that were coming.
Rob, while you're pulling up the Wall Street Journal article, you can show the headline.
It's interesting.
It goes, A drunken evening, a rented yacht, the real story of the Nord Street Pipeline sabotage.
And it says private businessmen funded the shoestring operation, which was overseen by a top general.
President Zelensky approved the plan, then tried unsuccessfully to cut it off.
You know what that means?
He gave them the green light, and then he was like, give me, come back, come back.
And they're like, no, we're already doing it.
Yeah.
Go figure that one out.
Tom, thoughts.
I think when you look at all this, what usually happens in war under the fog of war is when something weird like this comes up, there's usually more truth to it than you really wish there was.
Was it more logical that the Russians did it?
If American media were being pushed by our own intelligence people to carry the story that the Russians did it, would that help the Ukrainian funding through Congress against Russia?
Oh, boy, that would.
Oh, and those bastards blew up a pipeline that's bringing gas to people for homes and for winter.
So they go there, and then you come back to something like this and you say, I always look at this stuff, and the weird stuff usually history comes out and it ends up being correct.
The weird stuff on battle.
Do you know when we first reacted to this?
The biggest thing was, why would Russia do this?
Because if I'm not mistaken, Rob, can you type in who owns the Nord Stream pipeline?
I think they own like 55% of it.
Germany was another one.
Export their Russia.
No, I know that, but break down the equity.
It's five.
Break down who owns this.
Break down who owns percentage, exact percentage.
You see what says, does Russia own it?
Go to the first one.
People ask, go to the bottom right there.
Click to see it says percentage.
There it is.
50 plus percent is owned by Russia.
Why would they do anything to it?
Exactly.
And by the way, yes, didn't the former prime minister of UK send a text?
He says it's, she said it's done.
And as she resigned.
Yeah, I remember that.
You remember all this?
Yeah, of course.
Then they thought it was.
By the way, by the way, let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
Two questions.
One, if you're Putin, how do you process this?
And what are your next move to the media?
And number two, if you're Trump, how do you use this intel that just came out?
Yeah, doing the Russia whole, you know, they're blaming Russia for everything.
What do you do if you're Trump?
What do you do right now?
If you're Putin, how do you handle this today?
I cannot believe the Western media.
We've been saying this for nine months.
Once again, we didn't do it.
We weren't part of the collusion in your election.
We weren't part of this.
This is being done by manipulative operatives that you're trying to keep the war going in Ukraine.
Yeah, another failed attempt of making him the boogeyman and making him like the devil.
Like, dude, that Zelensky, this had, I think we even said that it couldn't have been him.
Why would he do that?
Like, it's a critical infrastructure for Russia.
Ukraine pulled it up.
Remember the simple, as we know with LBJCIA, we come down 50 years later now and 60 years later, and the simplest explanation suddenly is exactly.
And now the simple thing is: hey, drunk on a yacht.
What if we blow the pipeline, blame Russia, and that'll get more sympathy for us so we can get these billions of dollars and we can, by the way, legitimately fight back for our borders, but also keep the money training.
Let me read this entire article.
Report by U.S. on Wall Street Journal.
No, no, Rob, a report by U.S. on Wall Street Journal claims that Kiev concocted the plan to blow up the pipeline, bringing Russian gas to Germany in May of 2022, citing four anonymous Ukraine military sources.
A small Ukrainian crew disguised as a pleasure boat.
That's the one you read.
The operation was concocted during a drunken night in May 2022.
Bingo, here it is.
And Ukrainian military officers celebrated halting Russia's full-scale invasion of the country and were looking to deal another blow to Moscow.
The newspaper reported, citing four anonymous sources.
Nordstream is a network of pipelines running under the Baltic Sea from Russia to Germany to provide Western Europe with natural gas, meaning it provided billions to the Kremlin coffers.
The scheme reportedly costs around $300,000 and involves a six-member crew on a small rented yacht.
Ukrainian President Zelensky initially proved it before the U.S. intelligence agency.
CIA caught wind and asked him to stop.
Holy shit.
The Ukrainian president ordered a halt, but his commander-in-chief, Zolzhuni Zolzhini, went ahead with the operation.
Anyway, the outlet said it had spoken to four senior Ukrainian defense and security officials who either participated in or had direct knowledge of the plot, and all of them were considered the pipelines as a legitimate target as it defended itself against Russia.
Euronews could not independently verify the claims made by these sources.
Germany and Poland doubt Ukraine's involvement.
Really?
And by the way, you know why they have to say that.
Let me tell you why they may have to say that.
You'll see why they have to say that.
WSJA also said that portions of the sources account that has been corroborated by a German investigation into the matter, yet German intelligence officers have said they doubt that Ukraine was really behind the sabotage and that it's possible it was a false flag operation by Russia.
Yeah, right.
This is supported by Polish authorities who sent the names of Russian suspects to Germany's intelligence service.
The WSJ article comes after Germany media reported that prosecutors had issued the first arrest warrant in their investigation into the Nord Stream attack.
The report identified the man, Voldemir Z, without citing sources that suggested he had recently returned to Ukraine.
Polish authorities have since revealed that they attempted to arrest him at his address in a near town Warsaw in July, but that he had allegedly gone back to his native country.
He wasn't stopped at the Polish-Ukrainian border because Germany authorities, German authorities, failed to enter his name in a WANA database.
The Polish prosecutor office had on Wednesday, Germany, he said on Wednesday, German reports also two other suspects, married couple, Svetlana, and I know Svetlana and even Uspenska, who run a diving school in Ukraine.
They have both denied being involved in attack as their maximum dive depth is 30 meters compared to the approximately 80 meters at which the explosion happened.
They don't push the envelope when it comes to diving.
We blow crap up.
We only go to 30 meters.
That wasn't us.
How much credibility do you give this story by WSJ?
WSJ is not just any.
They're fairly in the middle.
What much credibility do you give to the story?
We got a lot of credibility to this, and you can see what looks like a comedy of errors is actually stand downs.
It's like he's at the border.
Should I enter his name into it?
No, Don't put his name in.
Just wave him through.
Oh, yo, we ready for this?
Yeah, listen.
We own a diving company, but we only go 30 meters.
It is way too much for us.
Are you kidding me?
Give me a break.
And CIA satellite photo.
Are those two girls on the yacht wearing full black dive suits and gun belts?
Yeah, but it seems like a pleasure cruise to me.
Yeah, exactly.
I think the learning lesson for me is this: you know, whenever something massive, ridiculous happens, we jump to massive conclusions.
Whether it's the Nordstream situation, whether it's, you know, Biden resigning, whether it's Trump getting shot.
But when sometimes when you give something time and you find out the stories, it turns out this Nord Stream 2 thing was a bunch of drunk Ukrainian guys being like, I can't believe we did it.
We stopped Vladimir.
You know what we should do?
As they're drunk, we're going to get a boat.
And we're going to blow up the pipeline.
I know getting an order.
I'm going to go to the diving school.
Exactly.
So literally what happened, according to the Wall Street Journal here, is for $300,000.
Yeah, who paid them?
No, they rented a boat, rented a small yacht with a six-member crew.
Probably American tax dollar money, but they trained the civilian divers.
They put a little hodgepodge operation together.
Yeah, we'll pay for that damage waiver insurance, too.
We need that.
One was a woman, quote unquote, whose presence helped create the illusion that they were a group of friends on a pleasure cruise.
And whether Zelensky called it off, didn't call off, who knows, a $300,000 investment.
You ask, how do people feel about this?
When this happened and you cut off the gas that basically fuels Europe, how much did this cost the EU and Europe, Germany, everything like that?
$3 billion?
$300 billion?
How much money?
So this $300,000 investment costs so much ridiculous money.
But here's a question, though.
Here's a question, though.
So I just looked it up.
Shareholder, 51% is Russia.
15.5% is split between German companies, Wintershall and PEG.
Then the Dutch gas company, Gaussine, Gaussuni, 9%, and French gas company, NG, 9%.
Okay.
What does Germany, France, and the Dutch have in common?
What are they all a part of?
They're part of NATO and the EU.
Oh, oh, oh, got it.
Yes.
And what does Russia not have in common with those three countries?
They don't want NATO any closer, which would deny them a part of it.
They are part of NATO.
Okay.
And where is Ukraine in this?
Are they part of NATO?
Are they not part of NATO, but soon to be part of NATO?
NATO.
Got it.
And just last year, if I don't recall in July, they were trying to accelerate the membership that Biden was talking about for NATO.
It's like, what if we can find a way to accelerate the membership to piss off Putin?
So if this story is accurate, what does Zelensky do with the $200 billion that's been given to him?
What should happen to that money?
Well, we know for a fact that there's been a lot of corruption and that they've siphoned money off the top.
And we know that they're basically fighting a forever war and that a lot of that money got siphoned back to the United States to the very senators and congressmen that voted to give it to him.
Huh.
That's a really interesting point.
But he's going to pay back money.
He said, give me money.
Give me 1% to the Dark Many pack for your campaign.
Not only that, him doing this disrupted the world.
U.S. was aware of it.
We still kept giving money.
We still kept getting support, even though CIA communicated with them.
And even after this happened, what was the date?
What was the date of this rock?
The actual Nordstrom population bowling.
What was the date?
The year?
I'll say it was May of 2022 that they started these conversations and four months later, September 26th of 22.
Yep.
September 26th.
What was the date?
September 26th, 2022.
So if he's behind it, if he's behind it and he's causing us, and we're giving him $200 billion to fight a war against these people, and he's doing basically false flagship to make this guy look bad, I want my money back.
No, what do you mean?
Europe is going to have to.
Well, check this out.
So that's September 26th on December 21st of 22.
visited Zelensky, the U.S. during his 10-hour visit.
Zelensky met with Biden, held a joint press conference, and addressed a joint session of the United States Congress.
So he came less than three months after this event, and that's what it was.
Three months after this event, if the CIA knew, Joe Biden knew, yet you still held a press conference with him to defend him against Russia, which, by the way, indirectly, you were flirting with World War III, even though you knew this was happening.
I don't know, man.
Not good.
I don't know.
Let me tell you, it's very, very important to know if the credibility of this story.
Wall Street Journal doesn't just write stories.
No, they don't.
And I can't wait to see what proven.
Same line of thinking.
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