PBD - Patrick Bet-David - “Exclusive Not Inclusive” - Russell Peters On Comedy, Joe Rogan, Woke Culture & Parenting

Aug. 5, 2024 - PBD - Patrick Bet-David

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“Exclusive Not Inclusive” - Russell Peters On Comedy, Joe Rogan, Woke Culture & Parenting

Russell Peters sits down with Patrick Bet-David for a hilarious and heartfelt conversation. Known for his global stand-up performances and hit specials like "Outsourced" and "Red, White, and Brown," Peters delves into his journey in the entertainment industry, his insights on comedy, and his challenges as both a comedian and a father. ----- Intro - 00:00 Performing Comedy and Joe Rogan - 07:31 India and Managing Money - 19:30 Shaquille O’Neil - 00:26:01 Woke Culture and Daughter Story - 32:12 Austin vs LA - 42:35 Podcasting and Egos - 49:57 Working With His Brother - 55:46 Hip Hop Culture - 1:07:58 Gavin Newsome - 01:14:31 Russell on Sports - 01:28:17 Convincing Russell To Do A Podcast - 01:38:33 Performing for Royalty - 01:44:37 🇺🇸 Represent Valuetainment! Buy ONE hat and get ONE FREE - https://bit.ly/VTTEAMUS 🏦 Purchase tickets to The Vault Conference 2024 featuring Patrick Bet-David & Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson:https://bit.ly/VAULT2024 🎟️ Meet Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson! Join the Minnect League Championships for your chance to win a meet-and-greet with The Rock at The Vault 2024 | Sept 4th – Sept 7th | Palm Beach Convention Center: https://bit.ly/4aMAar8 🎟️ Purchase tickets to PBD Live - "Reagan" Movie Screening & Live podcast w/ Dennis Quaid on Friday, August 2nd: https://bit.ly/3xNPhCS 🎟️ Purchase tickets to The Vault Conference 2024 featuring Patrick Bet-David & Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson: https://bit.ly/VAULT2024 Connect one-on-one with the right expert for you on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3MC9IXE Connect with Patrick Bet-David on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3OoiGIC Connect with Tom Ellsworth on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3UgJjmR Connect with Vincent Oshana on Minnect: https://bit.ly/47TFCXq Connect with Adam Sosnick on Minnect: https://bit.ly/42mnnc4 Connect with Rob Garguilo on Minnect: https://bit.ly/426IG0R Purchase Patrick's new book "Choose Your Enemies Wisely": https://bit.ly/41bTtGD Register to win a Valuetainment Boss Set (valued at over $350): https://bit.ly/41PrSLW Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: https://bit.ly/40oUafz Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/472R3Mz Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/47gKVA0 Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! Get PBD's Intro Song "Sweet Victory" by R-Mean: https://bit.ly/3T6HPdY SUBSCRIBE TO: ‪@VALUETAINMENT‬ ‪@vtsoscast‬ ‪@ValuetainmentComedy‬ ‪@bizdocpodcast‬ ‪@theunusualsuspectspodcast‬ Want to be clear on your next 5 business moves? https://bit.ly/3Qzrj3m Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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	At one point, Russell Peters was the highest paid comedian in the world in 2013.
	The guys made career earnings $75 million, got hundreds of millions of views online.
	You've laughed at many of his clips that have gone viral.
	I definitely have.
	I asked him a bunch of different questions.
	How much for somebody that's family's fan, how much has India changed the last 20, 30 years?
	More money floating around, nicer cars.
	I mean, the poverty is still there, obviously.
	It's not going away, but the rich have certainly gotten richer.
	About the times he met with all these kings, dinner with the king of Jordan.
	What was that like?
	What's the craziest gift they gave him?
	I told him a unique story about a gift Arnold Palmer got once to golfer.
	And then we talked about his daughter living in California, his 13-year-old daughter that came up to him at 11 years old with a very interesting story.
	11, she wanted to be a boy.
	I was like, baby, you're not a boy.
	You're not even remotely a tomboy.
	You're very girlish.
	You're joking.
	Do you lose sleep over this?
	Does this bother you at all or not?
	No, because I don't believe it.
	Most guys can't say what you just said.
	You lost two people due to economy.
	Don't tell me I didn't do anything for my people.
	I opened a complete industry for them.
	I'm good with Hurricane Jose.
	It's not the first Hispanic to blow me.
	Ah, see, that's the gift.
	That's the gift that just comes like this.
	Anyways, we had such a good time that the entire podcast, after it was done, laughing, you know, cracking up, went to the house, we had dinner at Casa D'Angelo, then went out, had a cigar, had two cigars, went to the lounge.
	But I hope you enjoyed this next podcast as much as I did.
	I laughed.
	We had great conversations.
	We had exchanges.
	But I hope you enjoyed this podcast with Russell Peters.
	I wish the last 12 minutes was recorded because the podcast started way before everybody was ready.
	We've been laughing our asses off.
	I knew this guy was funny.
	I don't know.
	He spoke Assyrian.
	He's got a few Syrian words.
	Right off the bat, it was Farsi.
	He just did Armenian.
	I mean, this is a guy that, if you follow comedy, I've been watching this guy for God knows how long.
	Very wealthy guy.
	He made a lot of money.
	He's made a lot of money.
	Matter of fact, if you need a loan, we're going to put a link below to the bank of Russell Peters for you guys to reach out at a 40% interest rate with a great credit score.
	He'd consider it.
	But there's a lot we can say about him.
	You've seen him.
	You've seen him do a bunch of different things.
	Russell, it's great to have you on, man.
	Thanks, PBD.
	Yes.
	Peanut butter and David.
	Peanut butter and David.
	You know, the first time I had PBJ, my wife made it because her name is Jennifer.
	I had never had PBJ before.
	Somebody says, so are you guys ever going to date or no?
	I said, when we get back, we'll figure out something out.
	Then she made me peanut butter jelly.
	I'd never had it here.
	Did you like it?
	30 years old was good.
	First one I ever had.
	You know what's funny is I don't like peanut butter and jelly.
	I like peanut butter.
	Yeah.
	I don't like peanut butter and jelly.
	You don't like it?
	It's too much.
	Too much going on for me.
	My kids like it.
	Remember, my wife is white.
	White?
	So PBJ.
	There you go, guys.
	This podcast.
	Yeah, she's white.
	I want to say right off the bat.
	I want to say right off the bat.
	But what I like about you is, that's interesting, is you don't discriminate.
	Armenians, you're okay with.
	You've had your fair share of Armenian experience.
	I have had.
	It was a good experience.
	Was it?
	It was a good experience.
	Is there any like disclaimer about the cost of living when you date an Armenian or is it relatively the same?
	Because I have as well.
	I'm just wondering from somebody with experience.
	The Armenian I was with, no, she was very easy to deal with.
	Really?
	She was not a problem.
	I was the problem, if anything.
	You were.
	I have any idea.
	Okay.
	And then you have Honduras as well, apparently, right?
	That was a nice universe.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, yeah, my son's mother.
	She's a Jennifer as well.
	She's a Jennifer as well.
	Yeah, she was Miss Honduras in Miss Universe in 2012.
	But this is pre-modern day Miss Universe.
	You got a question.
	So you're part of the safe era of Miss Universe and Miss Universe.
	Is it 2012?
	I think.
	No, they hadn't gone too safe yet.
	Really?
	I think it may be a couple of years out, but I remember her telling me about meeting Donald Trump and said he was very nice and very respectful.
	I guess what I'm talking about is nowadays.
	Oh, I see what you mean.
	Yeah, I know what you feel like.
	You have to double check now.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you're part of the safe community.
	It's like that story of the guy who throws Viagra in a girl's drink.
	And if she gets an erection, then she's not the one for him.
	Hey, how you feeling?
	I don't know, man.
	I'm kind of excited right now.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's funny.
	When I was in the army, one of my friends, Bradford, he says, he's going to Brazil.
	I say, it's his dream.
	So he saves this money.
	He's going to go to Brazil.
	In the army, you don't have a lot of money.
	So you save $5,000, $10,000, go to Brazil.
	I said, how was it?
	He says, man, it was great.
	But one night, I met this girl.
	She was dropped at gorgeous.
	I said, what happened?
	He says, I mean, we went back to her place.
	We got almost into a fist fight.
	Why?
	Because it wasn't a girl.
	But it was so flawless that he couldn't tell the difference.
	The last time he ever went to Brazil, by the way.
	You see, I suppose I wasn't scared to go to Brazil.
	Yeah.
	Because it's two things I love the most in this world, jiu-jitsu and fat asses.
	And so I would come back.
	I'd come back with a black belt and HIV.
	If you went to Brazil.
	Have you performed in Brazil?
	No, no.
	You're joking.
	No, my jiu-jitsu teacher kept like, boy, I'll take you to Brazil with me.
	Like your driver out there.
	40 countries, you've toured, I think.
	I saw 40 plus countries.
	I've actually never kept the stats or paid attention to them.
	I just, you know, when you're in it?
	Yeah.
	When you're in the tornado, you don't know what's happening.
	You're just trying to get out.
	Not trying to get out, but you're trying to survive through it.
	What do you think it is?
	Is it over 20?
	Is it over 30?
	It's got to be definitely over that.
	Definitely over that.
	40's fair, I think, is a 40.
	40's fair?
	At least.
	I think it sounds low even.
	When's the last time you went on a full-blown tour?
	It just ended in March.
	What places did you go to?
	This last leg was, geez, I can't even remember.
	It was Middle East and India.
	Middle East.
	Yeah.
	Any stops at Gaza, Tehran, Tel Aviv, anything like that?
	No, no, no.
	I went to, but I was close.
	I was in Egypt and I just typed in Gaza on my Google or Maps, and it was like, I could see it on the map.
	Oh, shit, it's right there.
	So, and that was like in close as you've been.
	That's impressive.
	That's close.
	I don't need to get any closer to that.
	And, you know, who knows when the hoodie is going to do something.
	Yeah, you got to be ready for it.
	You saw what happened yesterday with Iran, with the Hamas leader, got assassinated in Iran.
	I don't know if you saw that or not.
	I saw that.
	I read that.
	Yeah.
	So I'll give you a crazy story.
	I've never told this story.
	Four weeks ago, I had a Zoom with the former president of Iran, Ahmadi Najad.
	I don't know if you're going to be able to do that.
	The one that used to wear the members-only jackets?
	Members-only jacket.
	I think that's the one you're talking about.
	That's the guy, the little guy with the beard.
	Yeah.
	He looked like an Uber driver.
	He did look like an Uber driver, but this is him, if that's who you're talking about.
	Yeah, that guy.
	Yeah.
	So we had a Zoom together.
	Two weeks later, three weeks later, there's an assassination attempt on him, which happened like last week.
	Really?
	And I'm supposed to go to Iran to interview him.
	And they call me and they say, it's probably not a good idea for you to come to Iran to do an interview.
	And my wife agreed, and my family agreed.
	And we're probably going to be.
	I just met you and I agree.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's, I appreciate the love.
	I mean, it's a lot of respect and love from you.
	By the way, all these places you perform, comedy, who's the easiest audience to please?
	Who is the toughest audience to please?
	Who's the most sensitive audience that you walk on eggshells?
	Well, I would never say that anybody's easy because it's up to you to make it easy, right?
	They're already there to see you.
	So that's the easy part.
	Now the pressure's back on me.
	Am I going to do this right?
	Am I going to, my goal is always like, if I do a show for you, if you come to see me, I want you to want to come and see me again, whether it's the same show or a different show.
	But I want you to be like, we had a good time.
	I want to go back and see that again.
	You know, see what he's doing now.
	So that's always my goal.
	So every, no audience is easy per se, but some are, you know, like Singapore is great.
	You know, I go to Singapore, but I'll never phone it in for any of these places, even if I consider them easy.
	Is there one where you're like, okay, these guys are going to be super sensitive.
	Let me be careful with these guys when I say XYZ.
	Or is that like a, because you're pretty, you're solid.
	You're very consistent.
	You don't hit a lot of topics that, you know, are going to really piss a lot of people off.
	You have fun with it.
	You're coming from a different place.
	It's always about, you know, just putting the light.
	You know, it's about, it's always about putting the light on the elephant in the room, basically.
	You know, it's like, well, guys, we're all here.
	We know what's happening.
	Let's just talk about it a little bit.
	Just not even talk about it.
	Let's just, let's just dissect it a little bit just to see what happens.
	Russell, for you, right now, you know, the last when I'm asking guys about comedy and, you know, your name comes up and I go watch your stuff.
	I'm like, I remember that.
	I remember this.
	I remember that.
	Like everything I see of you now, I pretty much remember seeing because I laughed my ass off going through the, you know, the search we do as fans watching, you know, professionals like you.
	Russell Peters, go to filters, views, go to the top.
	Start from the most viewed and you work your way down.
	That's what I do as a fan.
	And one by one, I'm like, I remember that.
	I remember this.
	You know, in the 80s, it was a full bush.
	Then it was a landing stream.
	Then it was bald.
	Now it's boom.
	You got the guy.
	You're right.
	You're seeing all this stuff.
	And then when I talk to some of the guys in the industry, they say, yeah, Russell, you know, just all of a sudden slow down.
	You know, he still makes people laugh.
	He's still, everybody loves him.
	There is no controversy with you.
	There is nothing like, well, because of what happened with this and what happened with that.
	You just kind of like, are you at a phase where you're just chilling, having a good time?
	You don't feel like you want to drive as hard as you did before?
	No, I still drive as hard as I used to.
	I mean, it's 35 years.
	Listen, here's it.
	It goes, you're not going to stay on top forever.
	It's just impossible.
	It's one of those, especially in comedy.
	Maybe in businesses, you can, but there's going to be somebody new, brighter, new ideas, prettier face, whatever the deal is.
	And that's fair.
	That's just the way.
	This is the, you know, it's the cycle of life.
	But, you know, I've had a long run and I'm still going.
	And I mean, like, yeah, sure, you don't see me on a lot of things anymore, but that's more because of me.
	I don't really, people, do you want to do this?
	Not really.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So, so, so why?
	Well, no, because now I start to look at things like, like, is it worth my time?
	Right.
	And it's, it's not about, you know, thinking that's not worth my time, but it's like, I have so much less time now that I'm like, things got to make sense for me.
	Like this podcast I've been wanting to do for a long time because I've been watching you for a few years now.
	I started watching you during the pandemic and I was getting some great financial advice that I could do nothing with, but I was getting some great financial advice.
	It's nice when a rich guy tells you about how to make money.
	You're like, all right, motherfucker, we know you're rich already.
	All right.
	You got money as well, man.
	I don't.
	That's the problem.
	If I did, I wouldn't be on the tour as hard as I was.
	I got the IRS is what I got.
	Didn't you make like 21 million one year?
	And you're on the list of top 50.
	Yeah, no, I mean, I've never seen it.
	I've grossed these numbers.
	You know what I mean?
	I've grossed these numbers, but it's not like a regular business where if you gross that number, you're going to get something close to that number.
	Once you gross it in comedy or entertainment or whatever, let's just say this.
	You get 25, cut it in half.
	12.5 has gone to the government already, right?
	Okay, now you got your manager, your agent.
	They're taking 10 each, but off of 10%.
	Each.
	Yeah.
	Off of the 25, not off.
	10 million.
	Not the 20, not off the 25.
	7.5 million.
	Right.
	And then you got your accountant who's taken maybe 5%.
	By the time it's done, you're like, I barely cleared $6 million.
	I mean, it's still a great number, but it's nowhere near what you had in the beginning.
	Yeah, but I mean, how many guys make $25 in a year to be able to net $6 million?
	So if a great comedian is making $5 million a year, most of these guys live in New York or they live in California.
	Now, Rogan obviously created a new revolution where Austin's becoming a comedy town to be in.
	You're saving your 13.3%, whatever.
	Joe's the Pied Piper of comedy.
	Right.
	He is that guy now, right?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	How long has he been that guy in this space?
	Well, see, listen, I started doing Joe's podcast when it was in his house.
	It was in his house in Bell Canyon or something like that out there in California.
	And the room itself was tiny.
	It was like, you know, it's smaller than if you put a wall here, it'd be smaller than that space.
	It was like it was just a tiny little box right beside his garage.
	It would be me, him, and Redband.
	It was on Ustream, and I would go do it there.
	And I did every iteration of his podcast, wherever he moved it to every time.
	And so this, listen, his overnight success is not overnight, but is he ahead of the game?
	And is he very fucking, he's really smart and really intelligent and very well read and open to changes and open to ideas?
	Yes, he's all of those things.
	And, you know, they'll paint him to be whatever they want him to be.
	You know, he's this, he's that.
	I'm like, I've met people like who don't know him, like, oh, he's such a, he's not at all like that.
	He's this, he's definitely not like that.
	You know, and when they started calling him racist, I was one of the first people to go defend him because he's just not.
	He's just, you have to be stupid to be a racist, I think.
	A certain amount of ignorance has to get involved with that.
	When's the first time you met Joe?
	I met Joe maybe about 15, 16 years ago.
	15, 16 years ago.
	He was just UFC had been around for a few years.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	His podcast is going.
	No, podcast hasn't started yet.
	When did Joe start the podcast?
	So you met him pre-podcast?
	He started in 2010, I think.
	Got it.
	And I started doing it in 2010.
	Got it.
	So pre-that.
	So when you meet all these comedians, all these guys, what made Joe different than everybody else?
	Well, I used to box, amateur, as a kid.
	And I did a little jiu-jitsu back in the day.
	And I started doing it back again now.
	And so Joe and I connected on the combat sports because we're the same guy in that we don't like team sports.
	He may, I don't know, I don't like team sports at all.
	So that's just too much for me to watch.
	I got ADD.
	Why do you need 15 people to catch one ball?
	Just like why don't you catch the ball and you chase that guy?
	I asked him.
	I said, do you follow any sports?
	Nope.
	No sports.
	Nothing.
	Yeah, he's right.
	He's just purely.
	So, okay, so Pot started when?
	2009.
	Brian Redband.
	Yeah, Redband started it.
	Okay, so, but what made him different?
	What made him different than everybody else?
	For him to keep continuing to rise.
	And now it's no longer he's a comedian.
	It's no longer he's a UFC announcer.
	It's no longer, it's, it's, what does Joe have to say about XYZ?
	The world wants to know what Joe has to say.
	Did you see that evolution taking place?
	Like, did you at the beginning say, this guy's going to blow up and this is what's going to happen with him?
	I didn't see any of that coming.
	I thought it would be, you know, I knew it would be successful because he's a very, very hard worker.
	He's very diligent.
	But I think we live in, you know, I talked about this with him on one of his podcasts once that people are waiting for people to tell them how to think nowadays.
	People are waiting to, people are programmable now and they're waiting to be programmed by people.
	And their thoughts and their opinions are being swayed by who's the most believable person to tell me this information.
	And because Joe's a comic, Joe is also a no-bullshit artist.
	You know, he'll call bullshit on whatever needs to be called on.
	And most people don't do that for fear of whatever backlash they may get.
	But when you're a comic, you have the freedom of speech.
	And that's what we're always trying to defend is like, do you like what this person said?
	No, but that's their right to say it.
	And that's what we need to maintain, you know, and especially in this country.
	And we're getting to a weird place where you can't say certain things now.
	And I'm like, how is that fucking helping us?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, you're from Canada.
	Now you live in LA, right?
	18 years.
	18 years in L.A.
	And you bought Robert Kardashian's old house, if I'm not mistaken.
	I did.
	It's for sale right now if anybody wants to buy it.
	And Encino.
	Yeah.
	Encino.
	5.6 million is I think I saw when you bought it.
	When I bought it, yeah.
	When you did buy it, did you ever like go in the backyard and you said, look, let me see if I can, because, you know, OJ had been there.
	Well, that's where the chase started.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	So did you ever go in there like looking for gloves?
	Yeah, but here's the backpacks and briefcases.
	The guy who sold me the house is the developer.
	So he bought the original house and tore it down.
	He said he found some wacky stuff.
	Did he?
	Did he tell you what he did?
	He didn't find any like gloves or backpacks, but he's, you know, there was like rooms that were hidden.
	You know what I mean?
	Like a dungeon room kind of thing.
	Seriously.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He said there was a, he goes, I pushed this wall out and it was a fucking dungeon back there.
	And I was like, really?
	It was like, yeah.
	Robert dungeon room?
	Hey, man.
	Wow.
	Who knows what guys are into?
	I mean, you know, it is what it is.
	Yeah.
	And he, so, so what, did he say anything else?
	Like, did he find any other sex?
	No, he was looking for all that.
	He was trying to find all that.
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, listen, there's a lot of stories.
	You ever seen the video clip of when Robert goes in and goes into the house, puts up the stuff in the briefcase and walks out.
	And nobody's, you ever seen that guy?
	Yeah.
	He walks in, walks out.
	He walks in, walks and so, what do you have?
	No, nothing.
	I'm just grabbing some basic stuff.
	And because he was Robert, nobody said anything.
	And he's a lawyer.
	Have you seen this clip, Rob?
	Can you find this clip?
	He just walks in.
	Did you ever meet him?
	Did you ever?
	He died.
	When did he die?
	I know he died.
	A long time ago.
	He died a while back, but you've been.
	I've met Chloe and Courtney, but I've never met Kim.
	You met Chloe and Courtney?
	Yeah.
	How were they when they saw you?
	They were very nice.
	No, they didn't know who I was.
	Get out of here.
	No, it's funny because I'm friends with Tristan Thompson.
	Okay.
	Because he's from my hometown, Brampton, in Canada.
	And I was at this birthday party and Chloe and Courtney were there.
	So I texted Tristan.
	I go, you and your baby mama okay?
	He's like, yeah, I go, I'm at a party and they're here.
	He goes, go say hi.
	I said, all right.
	So I went over.
	I go, hey, I'm friends with Tristan.
	She goes, oh, hi, nice to meet.
	They were very nice.
	I can't say anything bad.
	They were very sweet, very nice.
	And, you know, I guess that's why they're where they're at because they know how to play the game.
	Even if they don't like it, they'll be nice.
	You know what I mean?
	That even gave me a reason to not like me, but, you know.
	They're professionals.
	Yeah, that's what they're doing.
	The way they got up and nowadays.
	Well, in all fairness, it's the way Ray J got up.
	Yeah.
	Well, he got up.
	Apparently he got up pretty big is when he got up.
	I mean, some rumors have been.
	It was impressive.
	It was impressive.
	Some rumors have it that.
	I like that you act like you've never seen the video.
	Fucking pervert.
	The middle name is not bet.
	It's, you know, pervert.
	Pervert bet David's Podge.
	Listen, man.
	I've had many, many Indian friends and they're qualified perverts as well.
	Just so that you know.
	Listen, there's a reason we're the largest population in the world.
	It's not by accident, guys.
	So, you know, I went to India once to speak at IIT Institute, the whole in Mumbai.
	Okay.
	I'm sure you're familiar with IIT.
	It's not.
	You're not.
	IIT is like they're MIT.
	Right.
	Okay.
	And really enjoyed it.
	Went in there, got the food, stayed at the hotel, walked around, met a bunch of different people, went to the slums, went to that big house that the billionaire built, a $1.4 billion house that goes all the way up.
	Weirdest looking thing.
	It's 36-story apartment building.
	But it's right next to the slums.
	Well, everything's kind of next to the slums over there.
	Yeah, so how often do you perform in India nowadays?
	I think every three years, maybe.
	When I did it this year, it was my first time back in five years.
	What's the reception like?
	They're always really great to me.
	It's funny, though, because I'm watching the tides shift now.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like the older, like the generation that grew up on me still shows up for me, which I really love and appreciate.
	And the younger generation now, they're like all sensitive.
	They're all the Gen Z weirdos.
	That's what I was asking.
	So now, no, the young kids will be like commenting on my page.
	Like, how is this funny?
	All he does is mock people.
	I'm like, shut the fuck up.
	You know, you don't do anything for Indians.
	I go, really?
	Look at all the fucking, I was the first one, motherfucker.
	You should have been there too.
	Don't tell me I didn't do anything for my people.
	I opened a complete industry for them.
	What is it like?
	What is it like when you perform with them, though?
	I mean, look, you go up there.
	Listen, India is, they're so sharp.
	Like they, I don't, it's one of the countries where I always say I'm always blown away with how I don't change my words.
	I don't change my pacing and nothing.
	I just do it the way I do it.
	And they're with me the whole way.
	They're not like, oh, what did he say?
	I didn't get that.
	They're sharp as hell.
	And there's a reason they're about to be one of the major superpowers in the next five years.
	Yeah, you saw the whole thing with Tim Cook is slowly trying to move the production of the iPhone from China to India.
	And that's a slow move and China's not happy about it.
	I don't know if you can pull up some numbers there, Rob, of what move they've made.
	It's a big portion.
	I think a quarter of it right now is being made in India.
	There you go.
	The company aims to make 25% of its iPhone production in India by 2025 as it seeks to diversify its supply and chain and reduce reliance on China.
	How much, for somebody that's families from, how much has India changed the last 20, 30 years?
	I can tell you, India has changed in the last five years since I was there.
	When I went back this March, I was blown away with how different it was.
	In what way?
	New buildings, more money floating around, nicer cars.
	I mean, the poverty is still there, obviously.
	It's not going away, but the rich have certainly gotten richer.
	But there's way more millionaires now and billionaires.
	And so Bombay has changed completely.
	Bangalore had changed.
	Delhi has changed.
	But when I went to Calcutta, where my mom is from, it felt good to see.
	I mean, maybe it's a selfish reason, but I felt good to see that it hadn't changed at all.
	Because it's kind of like, you know, there's all those memories you have from growing up and going there as a kid and just seeing the sights, sounds, and smells.
	And it was like, okay, good.
	India's still India over here.
	Do you remember the book that came out years ago?
	I think it was like Tiger Mother or something like that.
	Tiger Mom?
	The battle hymn of the Tiger Mother.
	You know, this scroll is explaining about what it was like to have an Asian mom.
	And, you know, people are coming.
	I can't believe that's how hard it was.
	That's not the right way to raise your kids.
	I want to give you some data, some props to your community because there's a lot of respect there.
	So the highest earning ethnic group in America, Indians, number one, $119,000 average annual income.
	Taiwanese number two.
	Then it's Chinese, then Japanese, then Pakistani.
	Filipino, Indonesian, Korean.
	I'm a little upset with this list because I don't see any Armenian, Assyrian, or Persian.
	I'm not one of them.
	No, because credit card fraud's illegal.
	Or Armenian insurance fraud.
	I mean, you got to hit them.
	There's a lot of them.
	Yeah, there's a lot of them.
	There's a lot of them.
	Listen, I know these guys very well.
	I know all the Hovigs and Sarkises and the Jacobs and the Hovanis and the What is it like being raised in an Indian family?
	Like, what are some weird things like, you know, you hear stories, whether it's the discipline, you better grow up to be an engineer, you better grow up to do this.
	What is it like?
	So for me, so the type of Indian my family is, we're, when Indian people meet me, they go, what are you?
	Are you this?
	Are you that?
	I'm like, how well do you know Indian history?
	Like, pretty good.
	And I go, do you know about Anglo-Indians?
	They go, huh?
	And I go, you don't know shit about Indian history then.
	We're products of the British being there, my bloodline.
	And so we're basically half breeds that, and the same half-breed kept marrying the same half-breed over and over.
	Not the same, not related, but a bit of incest going on.
	But none of us, we're not like that.
	We're like, eh, nah, too close.
	We'll go try that one.
	Arranged marriage is not that.
	Your cousin is really pretty.
	Yeah, no, that's.
	That's the one for you.
	Yeah, no.
	You're not like that, Russell?
	No, none of that.
	No, none of that.
	Our culturally growing up, we were more British, even in India.
	So when I would go to India as a kid, everybody spoke English in my grandmother's house, and everything was kind of normal to me.
	And then when I'd go outside and I'd meet the regular Indian kids, and I didn't know the difference, but I was like, oh, you guys don't do this.
	That's weird.
	Okay, it must be just us.
	And so Anglo-Indians are like historically, you know, entertainers, cooks, chefs.
	And then when the British were still in India, we got all the government jobs, police, fire, railway, you know, all that kind of stuff.
	So we were scattered all over the country.
	There's no one place for us in India.
	So growing up, because there's no professionals in my family, nobody, there was no pressure to do anything extraordinary.
	My parents were shooting for mediocrity.
	Really?
	Stands were low.
	Grow up and be a comedian.
	Just no, not even that.
	There wasn't even a thought then, but it was just like, just get a regular job with a pension.
	Literally, you're not joking.
	No.
	My mom worked in Kmart.
	My dad worked in a meat packing plant.
	Well, I mean, first when I came to America, Kmart was a big deal.
	Yeah, but my mom didn't work in head office.
	She worked in the cafeteria.
	Got you.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	So, and so financial literacy was never something I learned.
	And hence why, you know, I did dumb things when I got money because I had nobody guiding me with that.
	What's the dumbest thing you did when it got?
	Shaq talks about when he got money, he went about three Rolls Royce or something like that.
	I did dumb things like that.
	Not three, because I didn't have Shaq money.
	But he needed three to glue together so he could have one to fit him.
	Right?
	Well, he needed two, one for each foot.
	You remember the first time you met Shaq?
	You know what's funny is I could say I'm friends with Shaq, but we've actually never met.
	But we've spoken on FaceTime a bunch.
	Okay.
	The first time you meet him, I brought him to an event.
	My kids had to meet him.
	Shaq and my youngest son, they FaceTime.
	He's 10 years old.
	They hit it off.
	When I did the interview with Shaq, if he can pull up Shaq and Bedavid, the interview, it's that one right there.
	And just go to the middle of it.
	Right there.
	Look at the pause right there.
	So that's me.
	Dylan decides to sit on my lap because Dylan and Shaq hit it off backstage.
	Shaq says, hey, I want my Dylan to be here.
	He says throughout the entire interview, first time my kids see Shaq, I mean, you go like this, you're like, yeah, he's a mountain.
	This cannot be real.
	Right.
	Size 24 shoes.
	I'll tell you a funny story about that.
	I was on FaceTime with Shaq.
	Yeah.
	Because one of his best friends, Chicago, was a good friend of mine.
	So I talk to Shaq and I go, you know, Shaq, when my dad was alive, he always said that he wanted a pair of your shoes to keep at the front door in case somebody broke into the house.
	They would see those shoes and leave.
	Right.
	And we laughed.
	And then a week later, one of his shoes showed up in my house.
	He mailed me one.
	That's the kind of guy he is, though.
	He's a sweet guy.
	He's a thoughtful guy and he pays attention.
	Yeah, he is.
	He is sweeter behind closed doors than maybe on camera.
	When you see him, you're like, one of the things that Kobe said about Shaq, he says, the thing about Shaq is Shaq is not just a big guy that's a pushover.
	He's a big guy that will fight you.
	He's got the teddy bear side, but if you cross him, he has no problem fighting.
	He was one of the funnest guys to watch.
	Yeah, so going back, you were saying you made the money, you made some of those decisions.
	Your family, you know, the expectation wasn't high.
	Mom worked at Kmart, all this stuff.
	But people knew you were funny very early on.
	I mean, there was, you knew like, I think I read a story like early 90s or mid-90s.
	Something happened where, you know, like, this guy can do something with the comedy.
	And then later on, your story with George Carlin, and then he invites you back 15 years later.
	Maybe, maybe tell us how to do it.
	I'm going to clear that up for you.
	Yeah, because those were weird strokes.
	Okay, I started doing stand-up in 89.
	Okay.
	1992, George Carlin was always my idol, always like George and Eddie Murphy, basically the two top guys for me.
	And so 1992, the Blue Jays win the World Series.
	Everybody's driving up and down.
	Joe Carter.
	Joe Carter.
	Everybody's driving up and down Young Street in Toronto.
	Yep.
	And we're partying, you know, not partying, but like screaming, making noise, honking horns, driving slow.
	And I'm walking beside my friend's car.
	That's how slow it was going.
	And I see this old guy with a beard, a white beard, and a ponytail walking towards me and I elbow my friend.
	I go, ha, that guy looks like George Carlin, thinking I'm being a smart ass.
	And when he walks past me, just to be a smart ass kid, I go, how you doing, George?
	And he goes, how you doing, kid?
	And I was like, what the fuck?
	You're joking.
	And I was like, what?
	And I ran after him and I groveled and walked him back to his hotel.
	You're 22 years old at this time.
	Yeah.
	22 years old.
	I'm doing stand-up three years at this time.
	What's he doing in Toronto?
	Exactly what I said to him.
	I said, what are you doing in Toronto?
	He goes, I shouldn't be here.
	And he never really answered the question, but maybe he went to the game.
	I don't know.
	I think he was a big baseball fan, so he might have gone.
	But I got, I just fell out of myself.
	I couldn't tell him everything about my life enough.
	How long did you have with him?
	I had maybe like an eight-minute walk with him.
	Plenty.
	Are you kidding me?
	And I was telling him, man, he was asking for advice.
	And he's giving me some great advice that really helped me.
	What did he say?
	He said, get on stage as much as you can.
	I really, anywhere you are.
	If you're at a bar and there's a band playing, they take a break, ask if you could do five minutes.
	Doesn't matter if you kill or bomb.
	Just go do it.
	The more you do it, the more you understand it.
	And killing and bombing are the same thing as far as he's concerned.
	You kill, you don't learn much.
	You bomb, you learn a lot.
	But they both feel like something.
	You know, so then you cut to 2008.
	When did he pass?
	2008, right?
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	So about 10 months before that.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Yeah.
	Not even 10 months.
	Maybe about eight months before he passed away.
	I got a call from the Comedy Magic Club in Hermosa Beach.
	And they're like, hey, George is coming in this weekend to run his new set.
	And we know you're a big fan.
	Do you want to be on the show?
	And I'm like, absolutely.
	And they said, okay, great.
	You can open for him.
	I go, who's hosting?
	And he said, we got somebody.
	I go, I would love to host because I would love to introduce him.
	And they said, no problem.
	They moved it so that I hosted.
	Get out of here.
	So I introduced him.
	I started filling up with tears and my chin started quivering.
	I was like, oh, shit.
	Am I going to fucking cry in front of George Carlin right now?
	Did you or no?
	No, no, no.
	I cried in front of Norman Lear, though.
	It's so weird.
	I won't cry if you die, but I'll cry if something, if I meet you and I'm excited, all my happy memories come back, you know?
	I'm dyslexic with my emotions.
	Somebody dies, I feel bad, but I don't shed a tear.
	But if something good happens, I'm more likely to cry.
	So how was it when you introduced him?
	What was the experience like?
	I told the story about when I met him and blah, blah, blah.
	92.
	And then I said, you know, and I even, in 92, I said to him, the last thing I said to him was, hey, George, maybe we'll work together one day.
	And he said, you never know, kid.
	It's a crazy business.
	And there we were, eight months before he passed away.
	Eight months later.
	And who else was at that event?
	I don't care.
	I don't even remember.
	I just knew that it was me and George that night.
	Was that it?
	Like, was that when in 08, when you hosted, was that where the breakthrough came or not yet?
	No, I'd already broken through.
	That's why I was on the.
	Are you like in 08?
	What kind of money are you making?
	I'm making a few million dollars a day.
	No shit.
	Yeah, I was already doing arenas.
	Okay.
	I was already doing arenas that way.
	But you were number one in 13, though.
	You're at the, on, on top of the world in 2020.
	Yeah, I'd still, you know, from, I started doing arenas in 2007.
	And so here we are 17 years later.
	I'm still doing arenas.
	So when somebody says, oh, I don't know what he's doing now, I go, fucking 16,000 people still.
	So maybe I'm doing okay.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, yeah, maybe I'm not on your mainstream media, but they don't like what I say.
	You know, they're so scared.
	America is so scared of race that even if you talk about it in the only people who like when I make a joke about, you know, Armenians, Assyrians, or Persians or whatever, they all like it because they know that it's coming from a place of, I acknowledge you and I know a little bit about you.
	And I'm not giving like the dumb broad strokes.
	You know, I'm giving you the inside, little, throw a little bit of inside detail so you know, okay, he gets it.
	You know, but the powers that be don't understand shit about the rest of the world.
	They're just so focused on we got to make sure nobody's feelings are hurt.
	Well, your feelings are going to get hurt in life and they should get hurt in life.
	Otherwise, you're not going to understand pain properly.
	When did you see that flip happening?
	Where it was like sensitivity went higher?
	It went higher.
	Four years ago, COVID or something.
	It definitely started just before COVID.
	I think what started with the Me Too stuff, and then it just spun out into the other stuff from there.
	And it's not getting better.
	It's become more commonplace now, so people don't pay attention to it as much.
	But it's always there, and it's just, it's annoying because it's unrealistic.
	It's about inclusion, but it's definitely not about inclusion.
	It's about being exclusively exclusive.
	You're not including everybody.
	If I say to you, blah, blah, blah, about me, and you have to accept that and you don't, now I have to accept that you don't accept it.
	That's what inclusion is.
	We have now included ourselves together.
	You don't like what I'm saying.
	I don't like what you're saying, but we've accepted it, which means now it's inclusive.
	And when you get to the point where like, oh, you don't agree with me?
	You're done.
	Well, then it's not inclusive anymore.
	You're fucking being exclusive.
	You think after the Brady roast where everything was kind of on the table and people.
	It was great.
	Right.
	Do you think, do you think that's kind of like bringing it back or it's not fully back yet?
	No, it's bringing it back.
	And here's the thing.
	It shows you that people are fed up with bullshit.
	Right.
	You cannot have this tiny, tiny percentage of the population control what the majority is doing.
	That's just not how society should work.
	And it doesn't mean that we should negate that tiny percent of the population, but they shouldn't have as much say as they should.
	They do, though.
	I mean, they got a lot of say right now.
	Did you watch the Olympics opening?
	I saw your part about it.
	What'd you think about it?
	I mean, for me, it's funny.
	I'm an atheist, so for me, it was funny.
	I'm like, that's good.
	That's funny.
	I guess you're taking a shot at that.
	And it's funny, you know.
	But I don't understand what the Last Supper thing was about because it has nothing to do with the Olympics.
	It has nothing to do with the Olympics.
	It has nothing to do with eating or anything.
	It has, you know, it just, I don't understand what it's about.
	How old are your kids?
	13 and 5.
	Are you okay if they see stuff like this?
	Like, look at the picture to the left.
	There's something hanging out of his shirt.
	Oh, I see that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's nuts.
	I don't know what that is.
	That's nuts.
	Yeah.
	Where did they get the balls to put this right?
	Seriously.
	But do you think, do you think as even as a comic, this is a part that you can give a different idea?
	Again, I don't see how any of this has anything to do with the Olympics.
	And if you look, there's one non-white face there, one black girl.
	That's it.
	So what are you trying to tell us?
	This is supposed to be the whole world, and you're not representing the whole world.
	You're not even representing part of the world at this point.
	Did you?
	It didn't outrage me or anything.
	It just kind of made me go, oh, this is a good idea.
	But as an atheist, as an atheist yourself, you don't believe in God.
	You're an atheist, right?
	As an atheist, are you like, yeah, I don't give a shit if my kids see this?
	I mean, if they see it and they have questions, it's different.
	But if they see it, like, it's not going to register to them.
	But that's the problem now, is that they're subliminally putting things out there now so that it becomes normal place to you.
	And that's fine too, but it's up to you as a parent to steer them to either where you want them to be or where you think they should be.
	And again, like, you know, if your kid comes out and says something to you about blah, blah, blah, you have to figure out, well, how am I going to deal with this?
	Because I'm going to die and this person's going to be left here with these confused emotions and confused feelings.
	You know, my daughter, she's 13, gonna be 14, but she's gone through all of this shit because of the stuff they see on the internet.
	At 11, she wanted to be a boy.
	I was like, baby, you're not a boy.
	You're not even remotely a tomboy.
	You're very girlish.
	You're joking.
	No, no.
	At 11, she says she wanted to be a boy.
	Does she live with you?
	No, she lives with her mother, but she's with me a lot.
	But here's the thing.
	She lives with Jennifer.
	No, no, no.
	That's my son's mother.
	My daughter was with her mother.
	I know, I know.
	I called you a Kuskash, but really it's me.
	Don't Google the meaning of it.
	Unless if you're running, go ahead.
	Then you don't need to.
	So my daughter at 11, because of all the confusion, 10, 11.
	Yeah.
	All the confusion that they're getting fed on the internet, said she wanted to be a boy.
	And then she tells me this.
	And then I'm like, you're not, baby.
	I go, I said, listen, if you were, I would say, yes, I understand.
	But I know you're not.
	And I don't know where you're getting this information from, but it's not good for you.
	I said, right now, you're doing basic math.
	You should be doing plus and minus.
	You're trying to do algebra.
	Wait till you get older.
	And if that algebra problem is still there, then we'll discuss it then.
	And then at 12, she says she's gay.
	No longer wants to be a boy.
	I'm like, great.
	This is great.
	She's gay.
	I'm good with that.
	Because, you know, the less penises, the better, you know, as far as I'm concerned.
	And now she says she likes both.
	So, you know, I think it's coming around where she's going to be straight by the end of it all.
	But you know, the thing is, there's a stigma attached to being a straight human now.
	Like there's something wrong with you if you just tend to just drift towards vaginas or penises.
	You know what I mean?
	I mean, and there's a, it's, it's a weird time for that.
	Russell, let me ask you.
	So when she came up to you at 11, she wants to be a boy.
	Then she likes girls.
	Then she's bi.
	At now she's bi.
	By the end of it, you're thinking she's going to want boys.
	Okay.
	She's going through it.
	Are you and the mother on the same page while she's going through this?
	Or are you guys on a different page?
	No, we're working together on it.
	We work well on it.
	However, you know, there was things that happened during that time that I was like, why did you let that happen?
	Why would you encourage that?
	And I even told my daughter, these are not decisions that can be reversed.
	So we're not going to do that.
	You told the mom or you told her?
	Both of them.
	And what did the mom, the moment?
	She agreed with me on it.
	Okay.
	But then, you know, there was a time where I noticed my daughter was wearing a very tight bra, like a binding bra.
	And I was like, that's take, I said, do not let her wear that ever again because she's just a baby.
	She doesn't know what she's doing.
	And let her grow and, you know, if she wants to cut them off later, that's later.
	That's fine.
	But don't fight nature.
	You cannot fight nature.
	Do you lose sleep over this?
	Does this bother you at all or not really?
	No, because I don't believe it.
	You don't believe what?
	What's going on?
	Like with my, you're talking about with my kids or no, specifically.
	With my kids, no, it doesn't really, there's other things that keep me up at night from them, but not that stuff.
	Really?
	It does.
	Because I know it's not real.
	I know it's just.
	It's hyperbole that she's hearing all day from the internet and all these weird.
	There's so many avenues that kids can get different information from now.
	Like my son's five and he's an amazingly sharp kid.
	And he's very charming.
	He's very handsome and he's very, very funny.
	And he's not shy at all.
	But he says things now that I go, where the hell did you hear that?
	Like we were in New York the other day, literally the other day.
	I'm taking him through Central Park on one of those bicycle rides, me and him.
	And there's a horse and buggy coming up.
	And I go, hey, baby, look, a horse is coming up.
	And as we pass the horse, my son out of nowhere just goes, fucking sexy.
	I go, what?
	Where did you get that from?
	Five years old.
	Five years old.
	And I go, you could say sexy, but that other part, we're not saying that now.
	I mean, eventually you will.
	You're going to say it a lot, too.
	You're going to be worse than your father, probably.
	But right now, we're not saying that word.
	I don't want to make him feel weird about it and be like, don't do that.
	You know, like, where it's one of those things like, ooh, I got a little, you know, I got a little ammo in my pocket and I know how to piss off dad.
	You know, I made it a little bit more like, no, we don't say that one, baby, just the other half.
	So yesterday my kids are here, my 10-year-old and my eight-year-old, and they're going around.
	They find this little, what do you call this?
	The stress ball?
	Not the stress ball, the thing that says things when you squeeze it.
	Like, remember the staples back in the days, you would press it and say, stop that, stop that, or whatever it is.
	So this one says bullshit or whatever it says, right?
	I come home.
	I notice my three-year-old daughter, she comes up to me.
	I'm hugging her to go to sleep.
	She says, Daddy, bullshit.
	I said, what'd you say?
	She says, bullshit.
	I said, babe, what?
	And then Jen's like, babe, she said bullshit.
	Then I realized she's playing with this thing that says bullshit, right?
	And some of the stuff that just kind of gets around.
	But yeah, I mean, sexy to a horse at five years old.
	That's interesting.
	But it doesn't at all bother you that they're going through it and the influence of it is where it's not natural and they're just kind of trying to influence them to think this way that even maybe the mother thinks it's okay to give that bra.
	That does nothing to you.
	No, because I feel like it's my responsibility as a father to listen, if that's the real situation for her, then I'm still going to ride with her.
	I'm still going to help her with this.
	I'm still going to be her dad.
	It's not, I even told my daughter when she said that stuff about wanting to be a boy, I said, I'm going to tell you this.
	You can be whatever you want to be, but don't be an asshole.
	I'm not going to raise an asshole.
	You can be whatever you want.
	You want to be a boy.
	You want to be a girl.
	You want to be a fucking monkey.
	I don't care.
	Just don't be an asshole.
	And I'll work with you and I'll be your dad forever.
	How much of this do you think is your daughter, I'm assuming she's also living in LA, right?
	How much of it do you think is the climate of living in California and in LA?
	Definitely California is a problem state for sure.
	I mean, listen, I'm stuck there.
	I can't go.
	I can't leave.
	And I wish I could, but.
	You haven't thought about Austin?
	Is there a guy there that does a lot of comedy?
	No, see, the funny thing about Austin is I consider it like an open mic city now because all these young comics that are just new in the game have a place to and be attached to somebody big.
	And I don't think it's necessarily great for the business because a lot of people are getting famous off of one minute clips than the headlining and they don't have the hour that it takes to do the one hour.
	They have like maybe 10 minutes max.
	And then what do you do?
	Yeah.
	So are you performing five, six times a week just to like do what George Carl told you?
	You're always working.
	You always, you can't, it's like, it's like working out, you know?
	You have to.
	You have to.
	You don't work out the stage.
	This week, just twice.
	I'm doing two shows.
	Then next week, I've got eight shows.
	Next week, I'm doing a movie and then eight shows.
	And so, I mean, you got to continuously work.
	Is it all in LA or not?
	Those are in Irvine at the improv there next weekend.
	Yeah, so that makes sense.
	So California.
	So you got what?
	Is it New York?
	Is now New York one then California?
	Is it California, New York, Austin?
	Is it those three?
	For comedy, I would say New York is always going to be number one.
	New York's always.
	Because New York always produces the best comics.
	And that's where I became a better comic was in New York.
	There's just so many good comics out there now.
	And there's a lot of good comics now.
	There's a lot of really good comics now.
	There's a lot of really shit ones too that are getting work, which is it sucks for the good comics who don't have the quote-unquote following.
	You know, there's so many really funny guys that just I watch and I go, Jesus, I really got to step my game up.
	To see, but isn't that going to filter itself out?
	Like if you're not a good comic, the market's going to filter you out.
	Yes, sir.
	Eventually, but that's a process too.
	It doesn't happen overnight.
	Are there people that have done over 10 years of being in this business with still behind closed doors?
	Everybody said, that guy's pretty bad at what he does.
	Oh, yeah, there's plenty of them.
	And you know who they are.
	Like when you meet comics, any city I go to, I tend to let the locals go on stage because it's a full house.
	It's not really, they don't really get that opportunity very often.
	And most headliners that come in kind of shut off to everybody.
	And I never wanted to be that guy.
	I've always wanted to be like more gracious and welcoming to everybody.
	So I come to your city, you hit me up, like, yeah, come on, do five minutes or whatever.
	And I'll listen.
	I won't listen to their act.
	I'll listen to the audience reaction.
	And then I'll ask them when they come off.
	Like it's a quiet out there when the guy comes on.
	I go, how was it?
	Oh, it's great.
	I'm like, okay, this guy's never going to work.
	This guy's never going to make it.
	They're completely delusional and clueless that they fucking ate a dick up there just now.
	Yeah.
	And maybe liked it.
	Who knows?
	I mean, nowadays would.
	I mean, that's, yeah.
	I mean, some guys are into comedic SM, I guess.
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	Who did you see?
	Did you see anybody that was opening for you that was a nobody?
	And all of a sudden, boom, you're like, holy shit, what was that all about?
	There were no names.
	Well, Matt Rife used to open for me.
	What year?
	2018.
	Did he use your model?
	Because you were one of the first guys on YouTube that you put your special podcast.
	I never put it out there.
	It's just somebody else did.
	So it's not even on your own channel.
	No, I have my own channel now.
	No, no, I know, but it wasn't on your own channel.
	It wasn't on my own channel.
	Wow.
	Yeah, I didn't, I didn't, I still don't have any idea how to work that social media world.
	You still got a couple million subscribers, Doc.
	Yeah, I'm doing okay there.
	But Matt Reif, listen, this kid, when he was opening for me, he was killing.
	So I always knew, and he look at him.
	The kid's destined to be a movie star.
	Look at the guy.
	I used to, when he'd finish opening for him, I go, give it up for Matt Rife.
	He's my favorite lesbian comedian because he's pretty.
	You know what I mean?
	But I was watching him and he was like, I remember he hit me up, like, hey, do you think your agency would take a look at me or management?
	I go, yeah, let me, I call my agent.
	I'm like, you know, this kid's a home run.
	He's going to, he's, he's destined to be a star.
	I think you guys would be wise to sign him.
	Like, yeah, we don't see it.
	And, and I go, you serious?
	And then, and the same with Theo Vaughan.
	I was like, Theo's also looking for an agent.
	Get out of here.
	I said, Theo's looking for an agent.
	Oh, and they're like, Those are two misses.
	And I'm like, and now, yeah, my agent came back to me a year ago and was like, Can you just say that?
	Next time you offer us somebody, we're taking them.
	And now, guess what?
	My same agency signed Matt.
	Oh, so they finally did.
	Yeah, who is it?
	See, who's the agent?
	Is it who am I with?
	UTA.
	UTA.
	Got it.
	And UTA is one of the main ones for comedy, right?
	Comics are with UTA.
	Yeah.
	Theo, he's got like a top five, top ten podcasts right now.
	Theo is, I listen to him.
	His comedy, I'm like, he's got a little bit of that yogi comedy.
	He tells the joke seven seconds later, like, oh my God, that was the funniest thing I heard in my life.
	Yeah.
	Very different style.
	By the way, is it true that he's the guy from that video on Jerry Springer?
	Is that him?
	I don't know.
	I've never heard that.
	Have you seen this one or no, Rob?
	No.
	Go to YouTube, type in Theo Vaughn preaching.
	Okay.
	Have you seen this?
	Oh, I can't wait to see if you've seen it.
	Okay, the top video.
	Click on that one.
	That's a deep fake, it says.
	But watch, watch this.
	Don't be ashamed of me and of my words.
	In this assault, it's a deep fake.
	It is a deep fake.
	It is Brian Marnock.
	That's what Brian Marnark does.
	He creates deep fake.
	Let me tell you, I've seen this thing so many times, and I said, there's no way this guy was this boy growing up.
	And he tells us stories about his uncles.
	And we just talked about deep fake, like right before going live.
	Yeah.
	And it even says deep fake on it.
	Yeah.
	But there's a which one is that?
	What does that say, Rob?
	No, the one you just showed?
	Go back.
	What's the title on that one?
	You just said.
	Does this child preacher understand the words he's yelling from the Oprah Winfrey show eight years ago?
	So there's no way there's deep fake eight years ago.
	Okay, so that doesn't look like Theo.
	I got you.
	I got you.
	They put the face on there.
	I got it.
	Well, listen, I fell for it because when I've seen this thing, I said to myself, that is hilarious for Theo.
	When's the first time he opened up for you?
	Theo never opened for me.
	Theo's always been his own animal.
	When's the first time you met him?
	Oh, shit.
	I met him years ago.
	I mean, you know, I've been in LA 18 years, so I guess I don't remember when I first met him, but he was always a good guy.
	Always a good guy.
	By the way, do you have a podcast or no?
	I had one.
	What happened?
	I just got bored.
	I didn't do it the way you're doing it, you know, with the lights and the cameras.
	I mean, obviously, I had cameras, but I was doing it in my backyard.
	I was taking the lazy route.
	You know what I mean?
	Rogan's the one that told me to start the podcast.
	He said, when you do, I'll be a guest.
	I said, all right.
	Rogan was never a guest on my podcast.
	Fucker moved to Austin and couldn't do the damn podcast.
	Well, why didn't you, though?
	Why don't you continue?
	Because I see a guy like you, like, you'd freaking kill it doing podcasts.
	No, I think I'll bring it back or bring a bring, come with another idea for it because that one was just all the weight was on me on that one.
	And I think I work better when I'm talking to somebody and somebody who we can bounce shit off of, you know.
	Yeah, dude, this game of podcasts, the numbers came out the other day.
	I don't know if you saw the article or not.
	No.
	Wall Street Journal, what's happening with it?
	The top 10 podcasts, there's 5 million podcasts worldwide.
	Yeah.
	There's too many.
	150 million total downloads ever.
	A half a billion total listeners you're competing for.
	Half a billion.
	The top 10 podcasts, not top 10%, top 10 podcasts get 35% of the listeners.
	Yeah.
	That's about right.
	That's about right.
	Are you in the top 10?
	If we do five days a week, we're in the top 10.
	If we do five days a week, if we do two times a week, we're in the top 25 if we do that.
	But we have to do one a week.
	You were doing one a week?
	Yeah, but you know, part of it is, that's why I go back to the question I ask when I talk to guys.
	I'm like, you know, you're like, yeah, I don't want to do that.
	Yeah, I don't want to do that.
	Yeah, I don't want to do that.
	Yeah, I don't know if I want to do that.
	I want to do this.
	I want to do that.
	You got to want to do a podcast to keep doing it.
	I want to do one that excites me, like one that I would want little, like how with yours, I can watch clips of it.
	I don't need to watch the whole thing.
	Right.
	There's bits that I want to see.
	Right.
	And then there's bits I don't want to see.
	Right.
	And it's not personal.
	That doesn't interest me at this time.
	But it allows the individual to pick and choose what they want to do.
	Yeah.
	I thought for sure you would be like, you know, one format that works is finding a co-host.
	A guy that you just enjoy having a conversation.
	Yeah, that's the thing.
	I never had a co-host.
	It was just me.
	Listen, I'm sure you got a lot of contacts.
	I don't know a lot of people who got wedding, which was Cedric the Entertainer, the efficient of yours.
	Cedric married me.
	I couldn't believe.
	And then you had Bruce Buffer introduced who does that.
	So Bruce was a guest.
	And then Bruce goes, hey, do you want me to introduce you?
	And I go, well, you're just here as a guest, Bruce.
	But if you want to do it, I want to ask you to do that.
	Do you have the clip, Rob?
	Can you, okay, this is, imagine, now listen, I don't know how you got wedding, but how you got married, but this is how Russell gets married.
	Go ahead.
	As the moment you all been waiting on his face, guys.
	As they walk down the aisle of love forever.
	Mr. And Mrs. Russell and Oliver Peter.
	Yeah, so, I mean, I was on the other side of the door listening really intently because I was like, this sounds so cool.
	But yeah, so, I mean, listen, you know, when you're Russell Peters, and then, you know, just not to double down, but Nil Rogers and Chic was my band.
	Rogers and Chic was my band.
	Now Rogers.
	Now Rogers is.
	You know who Nil Rogers is?
	No.
	Oh, pull up now's discography.
	Now Rogers and Chic.
	Not now, Niall.
	Oh, Nihil.
	Jesus, guys.
	Rob, what?
	Where'd you find this guy?
	He's a comedian.
	Are you?
	Yeah.
	In Florida.
	That's the problem.
	That's the problem.
	Now Rogers.
	Pull up his top hits, and you'll see, like, just type in, like, look at this shit.
	Good times, everybody dance.
	I'm coming out.
	Do you remember all these songs?
	Of course.
	Yeah, I just don't know the name.
	Yeah.
	LaFrique.
	LaFreak.
	Yeah.
	These are all him.
	So I had Reggie Calloway at my wedding.
	I don't know if you remember Reggie Callaway.
	Of course.
	Casinova or I Want to Be Rich or then he was part of Midnight Star.
	He was part of Midnight Star.
	Yeah.
	And his brother as well.
	That's right.
	Yes.
	Calloway lives in Encino.
	He lives in Encino.
	Yeah.
	He trains people in the park.
	One of his friends' martial arts.
	Yeah, they were very, very good at what they did.
	Did you ever hang out with Jay King or no?
	Jay King was friends with Reggie Calloway, Club Nouveau.
	Oh, Club Nouveau.
	Living all these rooms.
	No, I remember Club Nouveau because originally it was Time X Social Club.
	Yes, it was.
	Good for you.
	I've been DJing for 40 years.
	That's right.
	So my musical knowledge is very good.
	Good for you.
	That's right.
	You were DJing in Toronto.
	I read that.
	I saw that.
	Yeah, Jay King, Why You Treat Me So Bad.
	They had all these great songs.
	Yeah, great song.
	But I met these guys.
	Reggie introduced me to Jay King.
	So it's interesting.
	The wedding.
	But going back to it, so, you know, the whole podcast thing.
	I mean, you got a list of a thousand people you can choose to be a co-host to do something with.
	Yeah, I know.
	I want it to be organic, though.
	You know what I mean?
	I want it to be like people who I really vibe with.
	Yeah.
	And who like I, and also you want somebody who's a little bit more opposite than you.
	Of course.
	Yes.
	Otherwise, you're just going to be, I don't want to say you didn't agree with somebody.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	No one's going to watch that.
	Yeah.
	So you need that little adversity.
	You need the person that's going to possibly not give a shit about what they say.
	You know, it's a lot of variables with that.
	Like finding a good guy like that, even though he's illiterate.
	I mean, I think it's ESL.
	He takes ESL at night.
	We're trying to help him out.
	And he's American, which is the worst part.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, listen, some people learn it later.
	I always took ESL.
	I've always always worried about America when it comes to spelling.
	Grammar is horrible now.
	Everything is autocorrect.
	Yeah, but nobody knows tenses anymore.
	Like it's like I ask you to do something.
	No, you asked me, motherfucker.
	Don't ask.
	It's like the ED is gone.
	Like for some reason, it's been so associated with erectile dysfunction that they're trying to cut it off of sentences now.
	Yeah, literally.
	That makes sense.
	I have a blessed day.
	A bless?
	I think you mean blessed.
	Yeah.
	And don't waste your fucking blessings on me.
	Be patient with us.
	We're eventually going to get it right.
	Just going to take a minute with us.
	You know what happened last time I was here?
	What's that?
	I was in Miami doing shows.
	I said, I love coming to the South.
	They go, this isn't the South.
	I go, this is the most southern point of America.
	I go, the only thing south of here is Cuba.
	I go, I said, if this isn't the South, then where's the South?
	It's north of here.
	I go, oh, for fuck's sake.
	Never mind.
	By the way, your brother is your manager, apparently, right?
	And six years apart.
	You and your brother.
	Does he spend a lot of time with Dan Cook's brother or no?
	No, no, my brother.
	Hopefully, he does not.
	Now I got to go check my brother's drywall.
	That's a very dense drywall.
	The reason why you, your last seven calls have been with your Dan Cook's brother.
	What's the story?
	In jail?
	In jail.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's a collect call I'm getting here.
	What a wild story, right?
	That is wild.
	Brother manages.
	Well, was this, in all fairness, it wasn't his, it was his like brother-in-law.
	Well, it wasn't his blood brother, I don't think.
	Or half brother.
	He was stepbrother.
	Stepbrother and the stepbrother's wife.
	Sister-in-law.
	Right.
	My brother is my real brother.
	Okay, that's good.
	So let's click on that.
	Respect to you, buddy.
	By the way, just saying, I met Clayton for something.
	He was just here.
	Nicest guy I just met.
	But yeah, that's good.
	That's good that they're not spending a lot of time together.
	Yeah, no, no.
	My brother spends a lot of time with his wife and kid.
	I know where he is.
	He also lives in L.A.?
	No, no, they live in Canada.
	So he lives in Canada.
	You're in L.A.?
	I'm in L.A. How long have you guys been working together?
	54 years.
	54 years.
	That's how old I am.
	That's right.
	Makes sense.
	And was it from the beginning?
	He's like, I'm going to represent you.
	No, he just always, you know, he was always my big brother.
	You know, he's six years older.
	I'm, you know, I'm six, he's 12.
	Kid picks on me.
	My brother comes out.
	I'm 12.
	He's 18.
	Kicks picks on me.
	My brother comes out.
	Was he literally that guy that protected you?
	He was young.
	He was, but he never had to fight anybody for it because he was always a big guy.
	Somebody was scared of him.
	And he has a very, he knows how to intimidate people.
	But I was always the finisher.
	That's the funny thing is, you know, he would start at box and I do jiu-jitsu.
	I'm like, I'm always, I'm the guy, I don't argue well.
	I'm like, ah.
	Okay, good.
	Stop talking.
	All right, let's go, guys.
	We got to get out of here.
	Who were you in high school, by the way?
	14 years old?
	I was a little kid.
	Lost.
	I was bullied a lot.
	Like a lot.
	Like bullying was really bad.
	In what way?
	Like words or more physical?
	Oh, it was all of it.
	Words, physical.
	Why?
	It was very racist towards Indian people in Canada back in the day, 70s and 80s.
	And something the kids nowadays don't understand.
	So when they say they're being bullied, I'm like, cyber-bullied?
	I mean, I get it, but turn it off.
	My only way around bullying them was to avoid people.
	And I was only white people that I was scared of mostly.
	You know what I mean?
	Like if I saw a white man walking towards me down the street and I'm an eight-year-old boy and that's a grown man, 40, 50 years old, I would still cross the street because I don't know what he's going to do.
	It didn't matter how small or young I was.
	How many incidents?
	There's so many.
	There was countless, countless.
	It was daily.
	It wasn't like this one thing happened to me and changed me.
	It was constant.
	Like hit, hit, spit, slapped, punched, thrown in garbage cans, called names, all of it.
	It was all there.
	But at the same time, it never like never traumatized me in a way that I hated people.
	Yeah, I don't feel any resentment for you.
	No, because even at that age, I understood there's, I knew there was a miss, there's something was missing here.
	You're not catching something here.
	Who's that?
	You, your brother, and your mom?
	Yeah.
	I was, you know, there's a picture before that where I'm smiling.
	And that one, my parents told me not to make that stupid face.
	So that's why I'm making that face and that one.
	Let me see if I have it.
	I have it on my phone.
	Wow.
	It's so funny because I look at that one and I go, oh, yeah, I remember that.
	I got yelled at for making a face because I think I went like and then like, don't make stupid face.
	And I was like, right, fine.
	Zero resentment in you.
	None.
	Look, this is my face before that picture was taken.
	So that's crazy.
	So you didn't post that one, though.
	No.
	Can you zoom in on that?
	Rob, can you airdrop it?
	Airdrop it.
	If you airdrop it, Rob will pick it up.
	Turn it to all.
	Rob, you know how to work an iPhone?
	Do you know how to spell iPhone?
	Roberts, MacBook Pro?
	Yep.
	There we go.
	Got it?
	Yep.
	Yeah, so that's the after picture that I sent you the before where I was where I was happy that I got to make my own face.
	How old are you here?
	Seven?
	No, maybe five.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm about five there.
	That was the before picture.
	Don't make that stupid face.
	That's my face.
	Your parents are still together?
	They would have been if my dad didn't die, but when did he 20 years ago?
	20 years ago.
	Yeah, but he'd be 99 now.
	So let's be honest.
	He wouldn't be here anyway.
	I mean, so natural.
	It was cancer, but he was only 78 when it happened.
	So otherwise he was healthy as a hog before.
	Sudden?
	Was it a sudden story?
	It was like two years and it was done, two, three years max, and it was full deterioration.
	What's the age difference, mom and dad?
	16 years.
	16 years.
	My dad was a year younger than my grandfather.
	Your dad was a year younger than my mom's mom.
	My family is very interesting in that, you know, my mom's side is, if you were to compare it to something, they'd almost be brown trash.
	You know what I mean?
	Mom's side.
	Mom's side, you know, grandma got pregnant at 14 or 15.
	That's normal back then.
	No, they weren't married yet.
	But I mean, you're talking about 80 years ago, right?
	Yeah, but still, you know, I mean, it was kind of like, oh, what's going on there, Nana?
	You know?
	And then they had like, you know, they had my uncle, and then she got pregnant right away with my mom.
	And so my mom and her brother were 10 months apart.
	And then there's another uncle.
	They're all dead now.
	How many total uncles you got?
	Uncles and aunts.
	Oh, I don't remember.
	They're all gone now.
	I don't think I got any left.
	Big family or no?
	I guess it was not a huge family, but when we get together, it would look like a big family because the, you know, whoever married who, then their side would come.
	And you know what I mean?
	So it'd be like a big thing.
	But no ancestry.
	That's the difference.
	No, no ancestry.
	No, we're not doing it.
	I don't think it takes discipline to not fuck your family.
	I mean, maybe in Iran.
	I don't know what you guys do over there.
	You ever performed in West Virginia or no?
	I mean, there's some places.
	Have I been to West Virginia?
	What's a big city in West Virginia?
	I've seen a lot of videos about West Virginia that have frightened me.
	There's a song.
	Have you seen that documentary, The Whites of West Virginia?
	Uh-uh.
	You saw it, Rob?
	Yes.
	It's about a family that has practiced inbreeding, right?
	Years.
	Yeah, but their last name is White.
	That's why it's called the White.
	How did it work?
	Did it work out?
	Oh, no, they're fucking mental.
	Seriously.
	Dude, the girl gives birth.
	We don't know who the father is in this, but she goes to hospital, has a baby, and right as soon as she's had the baby, her sister comes in.
	He's like, oh, my God, congrats here.
	And does a line of Coke with her.
	I'm like, what are you doing?
	It was either Coke or meth, whatever it was, but it was wild.
	Yeah, the wild and wonderful whites of West Virginia.
	And then you got the soft underbelly.
	You follow that on YouTube?
	He's got that other family, the what are they called?
	So you got Charleston, Morgantown, Wheeling.
	I think they're Appalachian.
	No, they're from Virginia, too.
	And they're all inbred as well.
	Virginia or West Virginia?
	West Virginia.
	Keep going down.
	You'll see.
	You'll know.
	I'll know as soon as I see it.
	They're a family.
	I forgot what they're called.
	But one of them talks like this.
	He can't speak.
	He just goes, The Whitakers.
	The Whitakers.
	That's it.
	The Whitakers.
	Yeah, it's wild watching them.
	And you feel bad.
	I went to West Virginia when I was in the Army.
	To defend it?
	Well, we went to this.
	That's the real family.
	They're all inbred.
	I mean, they look normal.
	Yeah.
	You don't think?
	It's a horror movie.
	42 million views.
	Yeah.
	Holy moly.
	Listen, when you pass an accident, you don't not look.
	I mean, that's pretty bad, though.
	People stare at disasters.
	That is pretty bad.
	Yeah, when we went to West Virginia, there was a greyhound like a racetrack.
	He's drooling in that photo.
	I see the.
	That's not for effect.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is why I've only been to West Virginia one time.
	Yeah.
	Maybe that's why I've never been.
	Well, but on your tour, it said you're performing next week, though, West Virginia, three-year stops, don't you?
	Like in Charleston?
	I'm killing.
	Charleston's in West Virginia?
	I thought I saw.
	I said the cities.
	Yeah, West Virginia has a city called Charleston.
	49,000 people live there.
	Wow.
	That's West Virginia for you.
	In West Virginia, when they get divorced, they're still related.
	That's ironic.
	I did hear a story about this family in West Virginia where the brother walks in on his sister and she's masturbating with a carrot.
	And he looks and goes, hey, that's disgusting.
	I was going to eat that later.
	Now it's going to taste like carrot.
	That is too funny.
	That is too funny.
	I like that Patrick didn't want to laugh at that.
	No, no, I still processed it.
	I told you, like, that's the thing with Theo sometimes.
	I listen to him.
	I'm like, okay, it's catching up, catching up.
	Ha ha ha.
	I just got it.
	Hey, what did you do in the army?
	I was a hummer mechanic.
	That's what happens when you score 31 on your ASVAB.
	You don't become, you know, military intelligence.
	No, when I was in, it was just Kosovo, Bosnia, and the Honduras flooding.
	That's the only thing that was going on when I was in.
	97 or 99 when I was in.
	And then I got out last minute.
	I lived in Iran when the war happened between Iran and Iraq.
	I was there for 10 years, but not when I was in the army.
	You had to with the shaved head?
	Yes, me and the shaved head.
	Wow.
	We're in an Ohio State sweater because I liked Eddie George, the running back.
	Where did you guys move to when you moved to America?
	Glendale, California.
	I mean, of course, you went to Glendale, of course.
	For somebody that knows this stuff.
	I was assuming Glendale, but I just wanted to make sure.
	I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt because I saw Ohio there.
	I'm like, no, no, no.
	Went to Glendale, California, lived there for six years, went to high school to Glendale, and then I joined the Army.
	Then I got out, and then I moved to Granada Hills.
	And then I lived in Granada Hills for a few years, and then moved to Northridge, to Woodland Hills, to Chatsworth.
	No, no, to not Canoga Park, but what is that place?
	I think it is Chatsworth.
	And I moved to Dallas, lived in Dallas five years, Plano, and I came down here three and a half years ago, four long ago.
	Plano is blowing up now.
	Plano is blowing up.
	That's where the headquarters is for the Dallas Cowboys, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah, that's where last year I went to Rayquan from Wu-Tang Clan's wedding.
	And it was in Plano.
	Are you a hip-hop guy?
	I'm very much hip-hop.
	What do you like in hip-hop?
	I mean, I'm about the whole culture more than any one particular musical aspect of it.
	Like as far as DJing, breakdancing, graffiti, and all that stuff.
	I love all of it.
	Beat Street, day one.
	Beats coming up.
	I'm part of Rockstudy Crew.
	I'm an official member now.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Crazy Legs made me an official Rocksteady crew member in December last year.
	This is cool.
	That's an honor.
	I never got the invite.
	He did it at my house.
	He just brought me a sweatshirt.
	He goes, hey, you're official.
	That's cool.
	That's cool, right?
	That is cool.
	But hip-hop, like, are you a East Coast hip-hop?
	Are you West Coast?
	Are you East Coast?
	All day.
	All day.
	So Biggie at the top of the number one.
	Absolutely.
	Who's your top five?
	It would be Biggie, Big L, a lot of bigs in this.
	Big Daddy Kane.
	Yeah.
	AG from Showbiz and AG.
	And Chino XL, who just passed away two days ago, was one of my favorite guys to listen to.
	But there's a lot more than that.
	Did Chino XL really die two days ago?
	Yeah, he passed away two ages ago.
	Chino XL wasn't hit him up.
	Well, Tupac took a lame shot at him.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but Chino was a beast on the mic.
	Really?
	Yeah, like the things Chino said were so, so amazing.
	You're just like, wow.
	How did you, you know, like even in his new song, he's gone on Rock Henzo.
	I'm going to need, I'm going to, I'm going to call the paramedics.
	I say paramedics because you're going to need at least two.
	You know what I mean?
	Like he would always break words down and just say the most foul shit.
	And like he'd watch the news and write rhymes.
	And I was like, that's amazing.
	You spent time with him to see how we know, I never saw his process, but we were friends.
	You know what I mean?
	What do you think about Tupac?
	I was never, never.
	You almost sound like you don't like the guy.
	I was never a fan.
	You were never a fan?
	Never.
	Why not?
	Because of it.
	I know.
	I just never liked his music.
	How do you not like the guy's music?
	It wasn't good to me.
	You're saying Tupac's music wasn't good to you.
	To me.
	I didn't get it.
	It didn't make sense to me.
	And I didn't like his voice and I didn't like his cadence.
	I liked him as an actor.
	I liked him as an iconic figure.
	I liked him as an activist.
	But as a rapper, it didn't do nothing for me.
	Who'd you like from West Coast?
	Or is it just you like nobody from the West Coast?
	No, I like some people from the West Coast.
	You know, Snoop has always been good.
	You know, The Alcoholics.
	Who else?
	Exhibit.
	You know, they're all, if you look at it, it's kind of all down with Dre's Camp.
	I remember when Exhibit first came out with Paparazzi.
	Remember Paparazzi when it came out?
	I mean, I probably played paparazzi non-stop.
	Oh, it's a shame.
	It was L.A. Times, so I'm doing LA TV.
	It's a shame.
	Rap came only for the money and the frame extra.
	It was a great song.
	I mean, it was phenomenal.
	Yeah, so a lot of East Coast for you.
	Are you an RB guy as well, or no?
	Maybe a history.
	Yeah, no, I know.
	The funny thing is, I'm known for hip-hop.
	Like, there's a documentary she's on Netflix called Hip-Hop Evolution.
	I don't know if you ever saw it.
	You saw it?
	I executed produced that.
	That's my show.
	I did that.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah.
	That's my show.
	I did not know that.
	Yeah, we won an Emmy and a Peabody for that.
	I saw the Emmy.
	Was it the international Emmy or the No, that's a different one, right?
	That you won.
	Was the international.
	Uh no, might have been the Peabody, for that i'm whatever, I don't know.
	I got one award for each.
	Yeah, you won a Peabody and you have an international Emmy as well, right there.
	Yeah international yeah, that's right, that's the same one then.
	International Emmy Award for best arts programming?
	Yeah but, but hip-hop evolution not a lot of r b or also r b.
	No, I love r b, I love all music.
	You know what I listen to 90 of the time when i'm alone, classic rock, i'm listening.
	I'm listening to yacht rock, most of the time like and my wife gets mad because she loves r b like r b or any r b, all r b.
	I like uh I, I stop around uh late.
	You know, early 2000s, I stopped, I stopped 03.
	My hip-hop start stops in 03.
	I know nothing about hip-hop.
	I think that's a fair assessment.
	I think i'm about the same as you.
	I'm 03.
	You tell me, r b with, as yet, with Jagged EDGE with you.
	Know all the guys with Aaron Hall with you.
	Know, Uncle Sam, all these guys, even some of the guys that people don't know about.
	I can hang after 03.
	Say anything, I know nothing.
	Yeah, i'm with you and I don't like the auto-tune stuff, because anybody can sound like a singer.
	Now yeah, and that doesn't show me you got talent.
	And uh, you know, i'm from, we're from the non-copycat era.
	They're like oh, you're doing this okay, i'm gonna do this.
	Then now it's like oh, you're doing this, i'm gonna do that too.
	And you go to youtube and you see just copycat after copycat, and it doesn't just music, everything is, this generation does not have the again.
	Like I said, they're waiting to be programmed to tell what to do.
	Let me ask you, did you watch Kanye's documentary?
	Uh, I think I did.
	You didn't say Jay-z or Kanya.
	What do you?
	What do you think about Kanye and Jay-z?
	No, not for me neither, neither.
	Well, I take Jay over Kanye.
	I don't play any Kanye music and you've never had, you never have.
	No, I lie.
	I mean I might have played some of the records he produced back in the day, like he did that, some good records with Dwele and SLUM Village and stuff um, but that's when he was just a producer.
	Were you a Diddy guy or no?
	Um, let's rephrase that question.
	Well, I mean, did you ever shoot any videos with him or go to his movie?
	No, i've been to his house.
	Yeah, I went to the house that got raided the one in Miami no, the one in uh Frontwood.
	Yeah uh, so that's because we were shooting it for Hip Hop Evolution and I was there for about an hour and a half, two hours waiting me and the whole crew were just waiting waiting, and we could hear him upstairs and i'm like i'm out of here guys, you guys do the interview, i'm this guy's taking too long, so I left.
	I didn't even meet him in the house, I I left.
	I was like this is taking too long.
	Have you ever met him before?
	No, I met him in 97.
	Okay that's, that's the, the war after Biggie had died already right, and uh, I met him at a fight in Atlantic City.
	Uh, Lennox Lewis, who was we grew up together, we were both amateurs at the same time and uh, so Lennox i've known for 40 years and I was at one of Lennox's fights in Atlantic City and I Puffy, was side uh with ringside.
	I was ringside and I took a picture with him and then Donald Trump was right there, because it was at the Trump Uh casino there.
	And then, right after I took the photo with him, Donald Trump goes uh Uh, takes a photo with Puffy and he's like, looks at the camera, send me that photo.
	And I was just like wow, that's that rich.
	I didn't know.
	I was like that's a rich guy that owns this place, that's all.
	I looked at him.
	Have you had any other interactions with him, or no?
	With Trump?
	Yeah.
	No, never met him.
	What do you think about the guy?
	I mean, both as a Canadian and as an American.
	I think I understand how he's managed to, for lack of a better term, dupe the public.
	But I mean, you know, that's the world we live in now.
	People are waiting to be programmed to be told how to think.
	Who's a better duper, him or Biden?
	I mean, Biden doesn't even know he's duping.
	That's you're the goat.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	I mean, that's when you know you've made it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the ultimate duper, I guess.
	I mean, listen, we're in bad shape.
	How about that?
	Okay.
	We're in a country without any leadership, and it's not looking good on the horizon.
	Now, you said something.
	You said I'm a Canadian, so you're not going to vote anyway.
	So you can't vote.
	Right.
	So that's why my opinion is moot and irrelevant.
	And if somebody wants to say, fuck him, it's fair because I have no stake in this game.
	I'm the guy who has to just go along with whatever you guys are doing.
	So who I would think is best for the country is irrelevant.
	It doesn't matter what I think.
	Let me ask a question just out of curiosity.
	Do you intentionally avoid the conversation of politics because you – I'm ignorant to it.
	But – But there's nothing about you that gives me ignorant vibes.
	But are you ignorant to it because it's the position of, look, man, I don't know what you're talking about.
	And you may have some strong opinions behind closed doors.
	Or is it, no, I just don't want to talk about it.
	No, I don't.
	I've never been a political guy.
	I don't get it.
	And there's people that study it and really know the ins and outs of it.
	And for me to have any conversation about it, I could be shut down with one argument.
	Like, I mean, you could pull up one point and I'll be done.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like some guy who's never boxed wants to get in the ring with me.
	I'm like, all right, well, Edward wants to do jiu-jitsu with me.
	I'm like, it's not going to be fair.
	You know how it started for me?
	For me, the way it started, I hate politics because my parents got a divorce because of politics.
	One's a communist, one's an imperialist.
	And I'm like, there was nothing, like, nothing positive to me about politics as a kid.
	That's how I feel about religion.
	Okay, cool.
	And by the way, I was an atheist for the first 25 years of my life.
	You should be.
	I was an atheist.
	You were born that way.
	Yeah, but the point being like, I get what you're saying.
	Trust me, I know all the arguments because I used to go debate Scientologists in L.A.
	I used to go to LDS and debate the Mormons and I used to go to Seven Day and I used to go to all these guys.
	Anyways, I don't want to go on the real, I want to stay on the political side.
	And then I brought the political side to the most basic thing for me.
	So for example, you said you make $25 million, they take 50% off taxes, then your agent and your manager take 10 points on the 25 million, so that's 5 million, right?
	So now you're at 17.5 million.
	That's been taken off.
	So then you got 5% goes to your CFO, your accountant, whatever the five, that's a million to five.
	You're left with $6.25 million.
	So versus for me, I sat there and I'm like, okay, who can do more with the 50%, the $12.5 million that went to the government?
	Can you do more with the $12.5 million or the government?
	Well, I think I can do more for me.
	That's the point.
	But even with you, and then what happens if you do more for you?
	Do you do more for me?
	Yeah.
	But I think naturally you're going to do that.
	Naturally.
	So that's the most basic part of politics for me.
	The most basic part of politics for me started off with economy where it's kind of like, so let me get this straight.
	You want to take how much money from Elon?
	So would I rather have Elon get $50 billion or the government get $50 billion?
	You just gave that guy in Ukraine $200 billion.
	Is Ukraine going to do better with the money than Ilan is?
	Give that $200 billion to this guy.
	It was so basic mathematically.
	And then the social stuff, you know, like right now when I'm talking to you, say my 11-year-old daughter comes telling me I want to be a boy.
	Yeah, no, right?
	And then, you know what?
	I don't like boys.
	I'm a lesbian.
	Oh, that's great, right?
	Les dick is better, you know, whatever you say.
	And it's like, oh, no, I like both.
	Okay, the way you're going, you're eventually going to like this.
	Now, maybe me as a conservative, when it comes down to the way I want to raise my kids, I may sit there and say, okay, cool.
	We're not the same in that area.
	But I also understand I don't want to live in California because I think a lot of the influence is coming from the schools in California.
	You're okay being there.
	I lived there 24 years ago.
	I'm not okay.
	I'm stuck there.
	I know.
	And you kind of have to because you're in the space, right?
	So even just your answer right now reveals a little bit that you're not fully supportive of it.
	I'm definitely not.
	But because you're in that world, you are a comedian.
	You know, California.
	I had Ice Cube here two, what is it, a month ago or something like that?
	I said, so are you really going to live and die in L.A.?
	And he says, yeah.
	I'm Westside.
	I'm West Coast.
	I'm California.
	I am California.
	He's right.
	You think Ice Cube, are you kidding?
	Can you imagine Ice Cube moving to Texas?
	Yeah.
	I would sit there and say, what are you doing moving to Texas?
	I mean, Ice T moved back to New Jersey.
	Yeah.
	But Ice T is originally from New Jersey.
	That one, and by the way, Ice T is also very much political in his own way.
	He'll talk politics in a big way.
	But going back to it, when I think economy, I think purely that.
	And then I go to which side wants to take more money away from you and give it to Zelensky.
	Whoever wants to do that more, I don't want to be part of that side.
	I mean, that's also, again, you're playing the game of wolf in sheep's clothing.
	This one's going to sell you, this guy's going to tell you, we're going to do this, but he's not really going to do this.
	Nobody's going to do anything.
	You know what I mean?
	Well, no, no.
	Everybody comes in with these great.
	No, I get that.
	But if there's one thing that I like, you and I know for a fact.
	Like, here's, I'll tell you this about Trump.
	One of the reasons that he irritated me, and I listen, I have friends who love him to death, and, you know, and I will never talk politics with them because I don't have any strong points.
	And, you know, their feelings are based on whatever they're based on.
	I can't hold it against anybody.
	And I think the minute you do that, you're going to lose the battle yourself.
	No question.
	But what he did do, because he had a hard-on for California when he was president, he took away certain things from California that were really helping me.
	You know, you used to be able to write off your 100% of your interest on your mortgage.
	Right.
	Got rid of that.
	Now you're fucked again.
	I mean, you're just like, he's like taking like for a guy that's in real estate, by the way.
	So that was kind of surprising to the real estate.
	Because he was mad at them.
	Right.
	And I don't think as the leader of a country, you can't be mad at any parts of your country.
	But, however, to flip on that, let me tell you what did happen, right?
	For even anybody that's in the world of business, capital gains he took from 39 to 20.
	I mean, you know how much that was?
	So capital gains from 39 to 20, you're making $100 million.
	Now you're keeping $80 million of it versus used to only keep $60 million of it.
	No, that's great.
	That is massive.
	You know, they have that mansion tax in California now?
	I know.
	And you got gas tax.
	How much gas tax you got?
	Gas tax.
	I've been home in two months, but the last I was there, like, gas was $6.50.
	It's a little ridiculous what the literal guy's doing.
	It's absolutely ridiculous.
	Okay, so how do you feel about Elon Musk?
	What do you think about Musk?
	I think Elon Musk is a fucking genius.
	He's a dreamer who knows how to make things happen.
	He's definitely high on the autism scale, but in a good way.
	Does he do goofy things?
	Yeah, but everybody's going to do something stupid at some point or considered goofy or whatever you're going to call it.
	Nobody's going to live this model life that we're expecting people to live.
	Everybody has a side of them that's going to be disagreeable with.
	But the way I would think about it with him.
	He's never driven by money.
	No, he's not.
	There's no amount of money that could drive that man.
	Do you think Rogan's driven by money?
	No, not at all.
	I agree.
	So watch this.
	Do you think both of them 10 years ago were probably on the left, liberals?
	Possibly.
	Yeah.
	Rogan was Bernie Sanders.
	Rogan was a legalized marijuana.
	Again, Rogan's not right either.
	No, I never said he's right.
	He's right in the middle.
	He's for sure not right.
	I'll tell you that he's for sure not right.
	But here's how I process it.
	You know, when a person comes and interviews for a job, okay, or you date somebody.
	You've had girlfriends, right?
	When you date somebody, right?
	And if a girl you're on a date with, you guys are getting serious.
	If she trashes her previous three boyfriends, you're going to be the fourth.
	Right?
	If a friend of yours says, dude, fucking my boss is the worst I've ever had.
	Piece of shit guy.
	Really?
	You said that about the other guy in the mortgage company.
	Well, you got to figure out when the common denominator is you.
	Right.
	Like, I know I look at all my past relationships and I look at how they all started and how they all ended.
	Some of them us, some of them them.
	I would tend to say it was 99% me who caused them to become this way because they didn't start off that way.
	They somehow got, they ended up that way.
	And I guess that my name, I enabled that behavior and probably drove them towards that behavior.
	But let me tell you, man, most guys can't say what you just said.
	That's not even.
	I have no problem admitting what I'm saying.
	But that's why you're likable, bro.
	This is like the part why there is nothing to not like about you.
	You're the guy that everybody likes because not online.
	People can't stand me.
	Well, maybe some of the people come and fuck this guy.
	I hate this guy.
	I can't stand you.
	I don't know, bro.
	Even right now, like people want to, people want to see you, hear you, you know, all this stuff.
	But no, I'm going more from the standpoint for me when it comes down to the example I give about the three X's or the, you know, the three, these jobs suck and it's all the same.
	Dude, how does Newsom lose Rogan and Musk?
	How do you lose those guys?
	Well, Newsome, Newsom's terrible.
	Yeah.
	How do you lose?
	And then how do you...
	You know, a great drinking game is when you watch a Newsome speech and every time he says, ah, you take a shot, you'll be fucking hammered within three minutes.
	So it's actually a pretty good drinking game.
	Yeah.
	If you will.
	That's what I always say whenever he's talking.
	And so, ah, myself.
	He's so good.
	He's so good, though.
	I get it.
	You're a good-looking guy, but that's it.
	This isn't a movie.
	This is real life.
	So, you know, that's the part.
	And he's Nancy's nephew.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Relation.
	Obviously, there's no nepotism going on.
	There's no favorite.
	And he's what?
	Part of the Getty family, right?
	Don't jump to conclusion just because this is a very intellectual Californian that is loved by the people of California.
	No, he's definitely not.
	You know, this guy lost a trillion dollars of money under management that left the state of California last four years?
	Yeah, and he's done nothing to make people want to come back or stay.
	He's making it worse.
	But that goes back to the idea of when you're saying Trump versus Kamal or any of this stuff.
	To me, it goes basics to economy.
	You lost two people due to economy.
	And Elon Musk, he says, I got a vengeance to get back to these guys.
	What did he say about his losing his son?
	He said he's dead to me.
	What's the word, dead something?
	He said that his son, the woke mind virus had killed his son and he was setting out to destroy the woke mind virus.
	And he's talking about California Newsom.
	So, I mean, some of these policies, you go back and forth and you look at it.
	Like, listen, man, I don't care whether you're faking because you want to get a lot of eyeballs that you're entertaining.
	You're doing this.
	You're doing that.
	When it comes down to the most basic thing, I feel you're going to do more with money than the government's going to do.
	Some people feel they're going to do more with your money than you're going to do.
	I feel you know what's best for your family and we should put more of the money in your pocket.
	I think it's that basic for me.
	Well, for me, I think that would be great too, you know.
	And there's a reason a lot of people are getting out of America in general.
	They're going to Puerto Rico.
	They're going to the UAE.
	Puerto Rico is somewhat America, though.
	I know, but you got that 4% of the world.
	420, that's the main thing.
	420, and all you have to do is make a ten thousand dollar investment on the island.
	But the question is, what kind of comedy do they have in Puerto Rico?
	And do you want to go through hurricane Jose every year?
	I'm good with hurricane Jose.
	All right, then maybe listen, let's start a comedy club in Puerto Rico.
	It's not the first Hispanic to blow me.
	See, that's the gift.
	That's the gift that just comes like this.
	That don't come like that.
	You got to suck on it for a little bit, but that's again another one for you.
	That's two, by the way.
	So so, what do you think about the the?
	The JT OF Canada?
	Yeah, Justin Trudeau, Justin Guy yeah, I mean, you know again, i'm not in again, i'm not there enough to even understand what's happening.
	All I just keep hearing is everybody's voices saying this guy, he's terrible, get rid of him.
	And I don't know.
	I mean, I just know him as a guy, I just know him to be Justin.
	Who would?
	He's born on christmas.
	Wow, who would have known Castro's kid was born on christmas?
	Have you ever seen the pictures?
	I've seen the pictures.
	Oh, my god, he doesn't look like his dad, that's for sure.
	No, and I know what his dad looked like.
	Are you speculating or I mean, i'm just stating facts.
	I'm just stating what i've heard over the internet.
	Wow, I mean, it's just too much.
	Wow, look at the tip of the nose.
	Not even that.
	The eyes the way that the eyes the way they hit the same way on, especially the left eye.
	that is pretty wild but somebody could say they don't maybe that's why he doesn't grow a beard Case study.
	We'll give you a million dollars to grow a beard for 90 days and then let's put it next to each other.
	See what happens.
	Yeah Canada uh, uh.
	Canada also goes through the same thing with politically.
	They got a guy right now.
	Are you following this new guy named Pierre Poliere or whatever?
	No, I don't.
	I don't follow what's going on in Canada at all, so you're fully disconnected.
	Yeah, i've never been connected to the politics.
	Have you ever?
	Are you still connected to the sports of Canada?
	Do you follow any?
	I just watch boxing and Mma.
	So that's not a comedy sport.
	I will not watch it.
	Boxing and mma, yeah, who's your MMA guy?
	Who do you?
	Who do you like in Mma?
	I mean, there's so many guys in the, in the in the sport right now that are exciting.
	Is there somebody that's like for you last 20 years, like I can't?
	I mean, John Jones is always going to be the number one guy.
	You know he's always been excited.
	You know it's funny.
	I just met.
	I met him a couple of times, but I, when I saw him in february, I was in Saudi Arabia at this MMA event and John Jones was there and I never realized how big he is.
	He's a big dude and his hands are massive.
	And he sees me and i'm thinking he recognizes me from meeting me before or from comedy, and he's like oh, what's up?
	Hey yo, you still got it.
	And I was like oh, how does he know?
	I boxed, get at.
	So he's putting, throwing his hands up, and i'm like pop right.
	And then, and then he's like come on, come on prince, you still got.
	I'm like prince.
	Wait, he thought I was prince Nassim.
	Oh, my god, by the way, prince Nassim doesn't even look like him.
	No well, that's why he thought I was him.
	Wow well listen, I don't know if I was like John.
	I'm, first of all, like eight inches taller than prince Nassim and i'm, I'm, not as big.
	He goes, ah, come on.
	He hit my belly.
	I go, what are you talking about?
	This is how long ago?
	February.
	Oh, wow.
	I mean, listen, this guy was an entertainer.
	Oh, yeah, he is.
	He changed the game, buddy.
	Yeah, he totally did.
	And it's night and day when you see what he looks like versus where he was before.
	Well, it's not so much night and day as it is before and after, but in the reverse.
	It's scientific, right?
	It's a little scientific there.
	Yeah, you know, I like when Dana.
	You know, it's ironic about this is that he just called me like two days ago.
	Who's this?
	Him?
	Prince Nassim, but I missed his call.
	So you guys are friends.
	You have a friendship.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	How is he when you talk to him?
	He's a little nutty, but he's a good guy.
	Like, it's funny because I was at this thing with Lennox in England maybe six years ago.
	Lennox was doing this, you know, talking about his career and stuff.
	And because we grew up together, he asked me to come moderate it for him.
	So we're there in England, and Nassim's there.
	And I made a joke about Nassim.
	And then after he comes back, says he's like, Russell, I'm going to fucking knock you out.
	And he's like, he's getting a little aggressive.
	I'm like, come down, Naz.
	Jesus Christ, bro.
	Come on.
	Don't get fucking mothing it.
	And I'm like, just calm down, Naz.
	You know what I'm doing?
	And Klitschko was there that night, too.
	I have a good picture of me standing in between Lennox and Klitschko, and it's like gigantic.
	Yeah, it's like the Twin Towers.
	Gigantic, these guys.
	Russell, I'm listening to you.
	You know what I'm thinking about when I'm listening to you?
	I've thought about a hundred guests for you to have on your podcast.
	Oh, tons.
	No, no, I'm literally.
	You're producing this for me?
	No, you can go in and knock on the door anywhere.
	You got the money to do it.
	All I'm saying is, I'm thinking of a hundred guests you can have on the podcast to interview them in such a unique angle from your background that could be so interesting for the audience to see.
	Well, that's what I'd like to do.
	I think you ought to, I think, I don't know.
	I think you could be a guy competing, like literally.
	There's a guy named Dee Stroy from D-S-T-R-O-Y.
	It's a good friend of mine.
	Is that like a porn store?
	No, no, no.
	He used to be a rapper.
	Porn name.
	It's just him right there.
	Got it.
	And he does interviews now with people, and he's fucking amazing at it.
	He really freaks people out with his interviews.
	They all enjoy it.
	And there's another guy named George Strombalopoulos, who's from Canada.
	He's an amazing interviewer.
	He's one of the best I've ever had.
	But these two guys, like, they both approached it from such a different angle.
	Like, George makes you open up like that because he's just so smart.
	So what needs to happen for you to start a podcast?
	We need money.
	Really?
	That's it?
	Yeah, I mean, money to me.
	No, but that's all it's going to take for you to do.
	The right money's there and it creates the interest.
	And I'm like, yeah, okay, let's do this.
	What is the right money?
	I don't know.
	We don't want to talk about that on the air.
	I mean, a couple of million would be a great start.
	Okay, so what's going to take for you to go?
	I just think you would, I think you would crush.
	I literally think you would crush.
	I think you would do very well.
	And yeah.
	I think, you know, when you.
	I live with the right setting, the right scenario, the right co-host, everything.
	Yeah, you know, the right guy running your, you know, your clips and all that.
	These are all, there's a lot of variables involved, right?
	I mean, I mean, it's you.
	You're ultimately you.
	You're overthinking it.
	By the way, and a Rob, like how you, Rob didn't even come here for this.
	Rob came here and then all of a sudden we're like, holy shit, Rob is phenomenal at what he does.
	But before there was a Rob, there was, Rob, how long you been at that chair?
	About two years.
	Who's ever been there for two years?
	Vinny O'Shaughness.
	No.
	No, not on that chair, but for two years, right?
	And then now he does a podcast with unusual suspects and they do different things.
	And unusual suspects.
	It's another podcast that we have that we started.
	We got like 50,000-something subs right now.
	Unusual suspects.
	And they talk about a bunch of shit.
	Where do they shoot it in here?
	No, they shoot it at the comedy club, at the cigar lounge on the other side.
	Yeah.
	See, I like to do that where I'm smoking because I smoke cigars.
	Bro, but you got local cigar lounges that would allow you to come in and shoot.
	I'm telling you, Russell.
	In California, you don't.
	But what I'm saying, Russell, with you?
	Okay, comedy.
	If you, not comedy, podcast hosts.
	If you look at right now, the top podcast topics, 25% of the 5 million podcasts, the subject matter is true crime, 24%.
	Next is politics and government, which that's not you.
	Next is self-help business motivation.
	And then it's, I don't know what it was, history, all this other stuff.
	Do you know what's only 2% of it?
	Comedy.
	Yeah, I mean, here's the thing.
	Comedians are doing podcasts without, we're trying to show our other side is what it is.
	And I mean, like, okay, look at Bert and Tom.
	Yeah.
	Theirs is hilarious.
	Yeah.
	But those, that's the kind of energy I need with somebody.
	You know what I mean?
	Tom and Bert are like best friends.
	Dude, you got a list of 100 people that would love to be your co-host, bro.
	And you're living in LA.
	That's like freaking a talent country.
	Pick and choose.
	You would kill.
	And we would be great.
	But I mean, you know, if I would need somebody to throw the ideas at me for the calls because, you know, in your brain, you stop at certain people.
	You go, nah, nah, nah.
	Okay, can you do me a favor?
	If you're watching this, do me a favor.
	Go to my Twitter account and do the following.
	My handle is at Patrick BedDavid.
	And Russell, what's your Twitter handle?
	What is it?
	Can you look up what Russell's Twitter?
	Or the real Russell P?
	Go find out what the Twitter handle would be.
	Let me see.
	I actually want you to.
	By the way, I've never, Rob, how many podcasts have we done?
	When have you heard me tell a person they got to start a podcast?
	Like zero.
	Yeah.
	I think you're going to kill.
	So zoom in.
	Okay.
	The real Russell P.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	So that's the handle.
	Why don't you give some names?
	Yeah, like I got 3.8 million.
	Why don't you give some names of people that you would see hosting, co-hosting with Russell Peters?
	Give some commentary where, you know, crowdsourcing and see what people say.
	But you know, if you went three times a week, if you went three times a week, I would be willing to bet within 12 to 24 months, you'd be top 20 podcasts on Spotify.
	And you know, they're paying okay, by the way, for some guys that decide to go with them after you produce it.
	Yeah.
	Guys are getting paid for it.
	Spotify already rejected me.
	Yeah, but that's pretty cool.
	Like when I did Rogan's, I didn't put mine on Rogan when I did on Rogan's.
	There's a guy named Joe who got quarter of a billion dollars and he did it again two times, by the way.
	That's amazing.
	Yeah.
	And now, obviously, we're not saying this is the kind of money that they're going to pay out now.
	That doesn't happen all the time.
	But I think you do it.
	Okay.
	Can you go to YouTube?
	Just go to YouTube and let's do a quick analysis on our talent here.
	Just type in Russell Peters.
	And Rob, if you could go to filter on the right and just go to views, okay, and zoom in a little bit, if you could.
	Zoom in a little bit.
	Okay, 28 million views.
	Keep going.
	Okay, 19 million views.
	17 million views.
	16 million views.
	13 million views.
	13 million views.
	12 million views.
	You got some good views.
	11 million views.
	You know how many people can say this?
	Brother, it's not.
	And by the way, these are not shorts.
	These are actual bits that you're doing, or some of them are even long form.
	Your market is so wide, I think a podcast you would blow up internationally.
	Anyways, I'm just a regular guy trying to persuade you to.
	No, I'm listening.
	I'm looking for any avenues of making more money, guys.
	No, I think this would be a part that you would crush.
	Okay.
	We should do it out here in Florida, so I have an excuse to fly back and forth.
	If you were here, I would say, what do you want us to do for you?
	We'd open it up.
	We'd put the cigar lounge.
	We'd create a set for you.
	We'd do it here.
	But you're stuck with your buddy Gavin.
	He's just such a stut of a guy he is in California.
	He's phenomenal what he does.
	Question for you.
	Is he sponsored by a hair gel company?
	Good looking guy, though.
	Not you do, probably.
	Your hair gel.
	I mean, that's a pretty, is that American crew or what do you use?
	I use this is clay.
	I used the clay.
	I used to clay.
	Got it.
	I don't have the hair like you got good hair.
	I'm hanging on.
	My brother's got great hair.
	I'm pulling it forward so my hair forehead looks smaller.
	I'm going to be robbed in 10 minutes.
	The other day, my son and my daughter come to me.
	They're like, hey, dad, you know you're going bald.
	I said, what are you talking about?
	He says, here, let me take a video.
	The kid literally takes a video back.
	He says, Dad, no, you're going bald.
	Look at this.
	There's three spots you have.
	I'm like, dude, just hide this video away from everybody.
	I don't want to see it right now.
	There's nothing missing.
	45 years old, right?
	It is what it is.
	You're fine.
	But no, going back to it.
	Okay.
	So I worked at Bally's, at the gym.
	And we would have, I was in Hollywood, El Central Bally Tota Fitness.
	I don't know if you remember that.
	It was down the street from Highland and Hollywood.
	Biggest Bally's in the world was in Hollywood, off of El Centro, next to Los Angeles Church of Christ that later ended up becoming a cult, which has never happened before.
	No.
	Yeah.
	So I'm going to this gym, and I used to work at Chatsworth Bally's off of DeSoto.
	I don't know if you know that one.
	The one with the outdoor pool.
	And it's down the street from Rogan.
	He used to live by Bell Canyon.
	It's like 15 minutes away, 10 minutes away.
	So we would have Russian Jews would come by to buy memberships and Indians would come by to buy memberships.
	Okay.
	And nobody could sell them.
	It's very hard to sell to Russian Jews and Indians.
	Well, we're not known as historically athletic people.
	Yeah.
	Why do you think, what do you think when it comes down to the two profiles?
	Okay.
	The ability or the desire to want to get anything to be the lowest price possible, a better deal than anybody else.
	Is that a genetic thing?
	You think it is?
	I think it is.
	it's a gift though right i mean that's like if you're if you're able to negotiate that way that's a gift I tap out easy.
	I'm like, all right, whatever.
	I'm not here to argue.
	I'm just like, whatever.
	Just shut up.
	Just shut up and let me go now.
	Yeah, that's the, what did you call it?
	That's the Anglo-Indian.
	That's the Anglo-Indian.
	All right, shut up now, Pat.
	Negotiation genes didn't come to you.
	No, not well.
	And I think I'm doing well sometimes.
	And my friend's like, why'd you pay that?
	I'm like, well, I thought that was not a deal.
	I thought I got a good deal.
	No, you didn't.
	And then my brain also goes, you know, you have way more than that person.
	You should be generous.
	That's what my brain does.
	Yeah.
	Like when we were in India just recently, I took a rickshaw.
	Is that your heart or your brain?
	My heart, probably.
	Yeah.
	I was in India.
	We got a rickshaw.
	And in Calcutta, they have the guy that still pulls you.
	He's got no shoes on.
	And the wooden wheel is on this thing.
	So he's dragging you through the city.
	And I go, how much to take me out of the hotel?
	He says, 50 rupees.
	That's 60 cents.
	60 cents.
	That's what it costs.
	He gets me there.
	I only have 500 rupees in my pocket, which is $6.
	I go here.
	And he's like, and I go, keep it.
	And then everyone else is like, why would you do that?
	He's going to raise his price.
	I'm like, what?
	You're not worried about this guy.
	This guy's running around the city carrying you with no shoes on.
	You're concerned with him raising the fucking price?
	You greedy bastard.
	I don't like greed.
	But is that the typical profile or is that you?
	That's me.
	Yeah, that's me.
	For sure.
	That's me.
	So, you know, back in the days when you could get away with this because there wasn't all the HR stuff they have today, what worked for me was the following.
	We had all the managers in the office, and I was the TO guy.
	T.O. means you turn it over to this person to come in close.
	He's the closer.
	They would say, hey, Pat.
	So you were selling those.
	We're selling gym memberships.
	Right.
	And I would.
	You know, I'll tell you where the gym membership game went wrong is when they started doing it and then they would.
	You would think you're signing up for a year, but it would be, they'd still be taking it out of your account.
	Well, that was Bally's issue.
	They would sign a 36-month contract at Bally's.
	It was five-down, 36-month contract, right?
	And then it would come back down and be like five bucks a month.
	That was their way of saying.
	Auto-renew.
	It was auto-renew, 36 months.
	Yeah.
	And then guess what?
	That's why Bally's is no longer around.
	They went out of business and LA Fitness bought them out.
	But if I knew somebody came in, I would test Armenians out because I'm Armenian.
	So they would always say, give me something that you're going to do.
	And then you have to make them feel like you did.
	And God forbid, if the minute you hear awkward, you're done.
	That's right.
	But when it came down to Indians, if I would come up, say something, and I would say, listen, I know one thing you're going to do today.
	I'm going to give you a tour.
	I'm going to give you all the deals.
	And you're not going to buy nothing today.
	You're going to waste an hour of my day and you will not buy nothing.
	I will buy.
	I guarantee you won't buy nothing.
	I won't buy nothing.
	I said, I know you're not going to buy that.
	You came with your Mercedes.
	You're probably a doctor.
	Everything you do, you negotiate hardcore.
	There's no way.
	I guarantee you won't buy anything today.
	You don't think I buy anything?
	There's no way you're going to buy.
	You would play on their ego.
	And you know what happened?
	They would call the manager.
	And a manager's my groomsman at my wedding.
	Right, right.
	I'll say, you know what?
	This man called me cheap.
	He says, I'm so sorry.
	I'm so apologetic about the way he behaved.
	I'm going to write him up.
	And then he would give him a tour, come back, sell him the biggest membership they could sell.
	So the idea was the pride.
	If God forbid you offended their pride, the fact that they can't afford it, they would pay premium.
	Well, that's where you, you know, when you prey on ego, you're always going to win.
	I had happened to a friend of mine.
	He's very rich.
	He wanted to, he wanted to get a, he wanted to rent out the hotel for his wedding.
	Yeah.
	The whole hotel.
	The whole hotel.
	Yeah.
	And he's very rich.
	Very, very wealthy kid.
	They told him the price and he said, can you do better?
	And they said, if this price is too high, we suggest you find another hotel.
	He just prayed on his ego.
	Oh, yeah?
	Fuck you.
	Take him.
	You know what I mean?
	And I've done dumb things like that in the past.
	I remember getting on a flight one time, going to get on a flight, and they were giving me a hard time.
	The lady was really rude at the counter, blah, blah, blah.
	And I go, you know what?
	Fuck you.
	I'm going to take a private jet.
	And I did.
	And, you know, that little fuck you moment meant nothing to her.
	She's not even going to remember it.
	And I'm the one stuck with the bill now.
	She's watching it right now saying, what?
	I sold you.
	I got paid 20% commission on that on the back end.
	Yeah, right.
	So, I mean, you know, when you play on people's egos, people's ego is a motherfucker, ain't it?
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's all of us a fall for that every once in a while.
	Do you think comedy's better today, better 20 years ago, better 40 years ago?
	Or it's good no matter what season it is.
	I mean, it's always good.
	Is it as it's not as free, but neither is humanity.
	Free as in what?
	I mean, just to say whatever you want to say.
	I got you.
	Yeah.
	And not have to worry about anybody else's feelings because, you know, you watched those roasts from the 70s with Don Rickles and there was racial shit being thrown around and sexual shit and all that stuff.
	But everybody somehow understood this is just for fun, guys.
	And now people can't separate reality from fun.
	Everything has to be somehow steeped in reality.
	It's like, no, this is real.
	He said that.
	He meant it.
	I'm like, that's not what I meant at all.
	Like, I'll give it an example.
	One time, my wife got mad at me because I went, you know, I always look at things from the extreme.
	Here's this.
	What's the complete opposite?
	What's the complete antithesis of this?
	This.
	That's funny then.
	So here's what I said.
	And she got fucking mad as shit at me.
	I don't get mad at me now.
	I'm just telling him the story.
	I meant nothing by it.
	I was talking, I was on stage and I said, I'm in a great relationship now.
	I had a wonderful woman.
	Everybody starts clapping.
	I go, you know, I realize the mistake I used to make.
	I used to go for these, you know, young, hot girls.
	And who would have known old and ugly was my sweet spot?
	You know, I was just going with the complete opposite.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, so I'm not saying my wife's old and ugly, but I was just trying to be fucking funny.
	And then when I told her, because I thought, because I got a big laugh, she hung up on me.
	I was like, what the fuck happened?
	But did you tell her before you were going to tell this?
	No, I didn't know.
	I just made it up on the stage.
	I got you.
	And I was like, oh, this is good.
	This is good stuff.
	I mean, but these, sometimes I watched, you know, comedians and I, you know, like I, for me, I see a pastor tells a story about the son and the son hates the dad.
	Why would you tell a story of me what I did when I was 11 years old?
	It's a good sermon.
	I want to give the sermon, right?
	So sometimes I wonder, same thing happens with comedy.
	One time I'm watching, have you seen Schultz's recent special, Andrew Schultz's recent special special?
	I love Andrew Schultz.
	Freaking ridiculous.
	That kid's amazing.
	Oh my God.
	He tells this about the whole thing that they can't have kids, you know, and he's having a hard time having kids and his wife wants to kind of go through to check.
	That was hilarious.
	And then the other one with Irresponsible Tour with Kevin Hart.
	I brought Kevin one time to perform at one of our events six years ago.
	He came so flipping hammer two and a half hours late.
	I thought this guy wasn't going to do the whole thing.
	But he hits the stage and tells the story about when him and his wife are doing their thing in a bedroom and kids walk in and he breaks down every position, how he says we're playing football.
	Like literally every position he says, if we're doing this, they come in.
	Hut, hot, go.
	And hey, he pushes the wife up.
	You're just watching.
	You're like, okay, so, I mean, your kid's going to see that.
	That's going to be funny as hell.
	Your wife has to understand she married a comedian.
	You're going to say some stuff on your personal life because you got to draw the stories, right?
	And they have to accept it.
	Didn't you once perform for King of Jordan?
	Well, we're friends.
	I didn't perform for him.
	You didn't?
	No, he just wanted to meet up and have dinner, and then we subsequently became friends.
	And that's been 15, 16 years now.
	Did you ever do an event?
	Did you ever go?
	Never, just friends.
	I had dinner with him a bunch of times.
	And, you know, he's a really amazing guy.
	He's a really smart, logical man.
	Did he at least pay the bill or was it with you?
	Oh, no, no.
	We didn't go to a restaurant.
	Are you kidding?
	We'd go to the palace.
	And literally, you're eating like a king.
	I've had, I think the best steak I've ever eaten in my life was he made it for me, as a matter of fact.
	Get out of here.
	Yeah, he has a tepanyaki girl.
	He cooked it right in front of us.
	What else did you eat?
	What do you eat in a palace like that?
	I don't know, but it was literally, I don't know where they got this.
	Every time I've eaten with royal people, I understand, like, I'm eating dog shit, aren't I?
	Because these people are eating some good food.
	Like, every single time I've had, like, I've been fortunate enough to meet a few different royal people in my life.
	And every time I eat their food, I'm like, what the fuck am I eating out here that doesn't taste like this?
	It's amazing.
	Who are some of the royal people?
	Are these like all from the Middle East?
	Pretty much, yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's a lot of Middle Eastern guys.
	Do they get you gifts?
	Like, do they get you crazy gifts afterwards or no?
	Sometimes I think that's slowed down now.
	Yeah, the economy's kind of better.
	You're not going.
	I don't know.
	I've tried.
	I tried.
	So one time I heard Arnold Palmer tell a story.
	Okay.
	And Arnold Palmer, the golfer, you know, well, you know, when I first met him at the time.
	Arnold Palmer's from Latrobe, Pennsylvania.
	Is he?
	Yeah, because my manager, my other manager, Paulie, is from Latrobe, and that's one of his talking points.
	Arnold Palmer is from La Trope.
	I would have never known Latrope, and I probably would have butchered how to pronounce it if you wouldn't have first said La Trope.
	I would have said Latrobe.
	I would have pronounced it in a different way.
	Anyway, so Arnold Palmer tells a story.
	He says, one time I get a call from some sheikh or some king from the Middle East that wants him to go golf, 18 holes.
	And he says, I just want to watch you.
	He says, do you want me to do a charity event?
	No.
	Do you want me to play against anybody else?
	No, I just want you to come and do 18 holes.
	I just want to watch.
	I love your swing.
	So it's kind of weird.
	Okay, I'll take the invite.
	He goes and performs and does his thing.
	And then afterwards, he's at the hotel.
	The associates from the Sheikh come and they knock on his door.
	Protocol.
	Hey, just want to let you know.
	Incredible.
	He's very grateful for the way you did what you did today.
	Loves your golf game.
	He wants to give you a gift.
	Arnold's like, no, no, I'm okay.
	Thank you so much.
	I already appreciate the hospitality.
	He says, listen, it's an insult.
	If you don't let me go back, he wants a gift.
	He says, no, I'm telling you.
	I'm telling you, culturally, you can't say no to us.
	He would like to get you a gift.
	He says, I'm a golfer.
	Maybe get me like a golf club or something like that.
	Okay, great.
	And he leaves.
	He comes back.
	He says he hands me a deed to golf club because they thought I said a country club.
	Wow.
	A country club deed.
	Wow.
	Imagine the amount of wealth.
	Now, whether this story is accurate or not, I don't know.
	but it's a phenomenal story i could see that being true that's why i said like what kind of because because over there um their wealth is so insane And when you're like, we're not from that part of the world.
	So if a guy like Rob was like, oh, they want to give you a gift, you're thinking, I don't need another vase.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, that's what we're thinking.
	Another fucking crystal fruit bowl.
	I am good, you know?
	And then they show up with these outrageous gifts, you know?
	One time I was in Saudi Arabia and I said to the hotel, they said, how did you sleep?
	And I said, I'll be honest, it was literally the most comfortable bed I'd ever slept in in my life.
	I slept amazing.
	And they're like, really?
	What part of it go from the pillows to the bed sheets to the blanket?
	Everything was amazing.
	I slept so good.
	I can remember to this day how well I slept in that bed, too.
	Oh, well, that's great.
	Thank you so much.
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	I pack up to leave.
	I go to my room.
	There's a big box.
	I go, what's this?
	They go, it's the bedding and all the bed sheets.
	We're sending it home for you.
	I'm like, what the fuck?
	But that's what you call unreasonable hospitality.
	Where it's like, how do you reciprocate this?
	Because part of me is like, okay, I appreciate it, but I need to do something back for you now.
	Well, these guys invite you and you go sit down with them.
	Do you kind of feel like they're having dinner with you?
	Like, okay, make me laugh.
	Is that how it is?
	Or is it just beforehand?
	And then they invite you to do it.
	They just want to get to know you.
	Yeah.
	I got it.
	I got it.
	Yeah.
	No, I mean, listen, there are certain places, you know, when you grow up, I don't know if you heard this from your dad, but my dad would say, you think money grows on trees?
	In the Middle East, I think it does.
	Some of these places, Saudi era.
	It doesn't go on trees.
	It grows in the dirt.
	They don't have a lot of trees there.
	That makes sense.
	Anyways, brother, this has been great.
	I hope, and I'm optimistic, that maybe in the next three, six, 12 months, we're going to see Russell Peters in the podcast game.
	I think PBD is going to be putting this together for us, guys.
	Dude, listen, for the people that are watching, send a list of names and tag him.
	Let him go back to his 3.9 million followers that he has and see who you recommend him doing it with.
	Because I would love to see a podcast of you coming back up with the amount of depth you have on these different stories.
	God knows how many.
	And by the way, you know what the easiest thing is to do?
	Yeah, Rob?
	No, I'm just reading it to him.
	Made in America.
	You were born in Iran, made in America?
	Yeah.
	So this lady I was on, I don't know, she's in, I think she was on.
	I like that you just put the Armenian flag, but didn't put Armenian.
	Because, you know, Apple, I've been asking Tim Cook, give us an Assyrian flag.
	He hasn't given us an Assyrian flag.
	Yeah, is there an Assyrian flag?
	There is an Assyrian flag, but not an Apple.
	But the Chaldeans have claimed it?
	Chaldeans and Assyrians, they compete.
	But they're the same people.
	Yeah, but it's like you know Armenians who compete.
	One is from Yerevan, one is from Iran, one is from Lebanon, and there's the others.
	It's a real thing.
	I call them the off-brand Armenians.
	Which ones?
	The only ones that are not Hayastancy.
	Was your ex Hayastancy or was she from Georgia?
	From Georgia?
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	All right.
	Very cool.
	Interesting.
	So anyways, I'm excited to see you start something.
	The Handik podcast.
	The Handik podcast.
	What was that song?
	Remember that song?
	The Indian song?
	Okay, then don't worry about it.
	My dad used to have a Seventh movie.
	I grew up with the Sevs.
	I was in movies, bro.
	I grew up with the Sevs.
	You did?
	With the Sevs?
	Literally?
	Yeah.
	You're not joking.
	No, from the age of four.
	Did you ever date a Sev?
	Yeah.
	But never wanted to marry a Sev or just never had a self?
	No, just never, we were never in love.
	I mean, you know, you don't just marry them because of whatever.
	You marry who you think you love.
	You know, most people don't know this.
	I dated more Sevs than anything else.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Because I was also into Sevs.
	Yeah.
	I could tell my musical taste when you said stuff.
	Yeah, they were duper.
	Patrick's got a funky side that he hides.
	Patrick's hiding his funky side because he hangs around a lot of white people.
	Nobody's going to take my financial advice from a guy who likes hip-hop.
	What do you think I should do on me?
	Buy some bitches.
	My man, appreciate you for coming out.
	This was great.
	And looking forward to seeing what you do next.
	So am I.
	Yeah.
	I'm excited about it.
	Take care, everybody.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye-bye.
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