"Feels Like a Setup" - Ex-Sniper on Secret Service FAILURE on Trump Assassination Attempt | Ep. 452
Patrick Bet-David sits down with Nick Irving, renowned sniper and author, to provide a play-by-play breakdown of the Trump rally assassination attempt. Irving shares his expert perspective on firearms and security as Patrick presents some of the most damning videos related to the incident.
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He's had 33 confirmed kills as a sniper in the Army Ranger, and he's had 100 different missions.
He was a part of what a PMC protected, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Supreme, many others, by the way, that he's done.
And I asked him, I said, let me ask you a question.
If you were assigned to test the level of expertise our current Secret Service has as a sniper to show them how many leaks they have in the way they protect the president out of 100 different assignments, how many times would you be able to take out their asset because they're not good at what they do?
He says 98% of the time.
Then I asked him, I said, if the president is your father, right after the assassination attempt takes place, you're a sniper with 33 confirmed kills, three and a half months in Afghanistan.
What would you tell your dad?
When you hear the answer of what he said first, then what we broke down second, three things he would tell his dad to do.
And then number three, when I said, if the president wanted to hire 10 of the greatest snipers we've ever had in the history of America Delta Force, how much would it cost for him to be protected from today till November 5th?
When he breaks down the dollar amount, the first thing you're going to say is, well, President's camp should call a PMC immediately to make this protection.
This is going to be a podcast.
I hope it gets millions of eyeballs, but millions of eyeballs of the right people that are willing to take action to protect the president running for office.
Having said that, here's Nick Irving.
So I'm excited about my guest today, Nick Irving, which we've had him on before.
During COVID, we did an interview over Zoom and it got, I don't even know how many views it got, five, six million views?
I mean, people were very interested in what he had to say.
Maybe it's because what he named his rifle.
I don't know, maybe it's because he named his rifle Dirty Diana, DSR-25.
Maybe because he had 33 confirmed kills as a Secret Service guy himself, as I'm not Secret Service, as a sniper himself, maybe because he's an Army Ranger, maybe because who knows?
All these other things adding up.
But by the way, those 33 confirmed kills were like in a three and a half month period in Afghanistan.
So, and he's got the background of being hired as a sniper by PMC to protect, I believe, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden many years ago, as well as on the military side.
So there aren't too many people as qualified that have experienced this to say, here's how we communicate behind closed doors.
So with that being said, Nick, it's great to have you back on.
It's great to be here.
Thank you for having me.
Of course.
And I got to tell everybody, you're a New York Times bestseller.
You got a new one coming out, Reaper Debored Rob.
Let's make sure we put the link below as well.
But let's get right into it.
Thank you.
So, you know, I'll go through the timeline here in a minute, but I just kind of want to ask you open-ended question.
If a person is like when NHL season comes around and it's playoffs, you'll see guys who are in the playoffs.
They'll come and do commentary.
Okay.
If a UFC fight takes place, people want to hear what Rogan has to say because he's in the space.
What does Daniel Cormier has to say?
Because he was a fighter.
What does Connor have to say?
Their tweets during the fight is above anybody else's because their analysis is in that space.
If a plane crashes from American Airlines, United Airlines, you'll bring somebody who was a pilot for 30 years and they'll give the perspective of what happened here.
Even somebody that was a pilot that a plane crashed before.
So we watch it from the perspective of American citizens.
Concern about wait a minute, this guy almost got assassinated, right.
How do you, as a former sniper with 33 confirmed kills, having worked as a pmc and a ranger yourself, how did you?
When you saw that, what was the first thing you said?
The first thing I thought was it had to be fake.
It almost seemed like it was ai um.
My mind could not comprehend exactly how that was allowed to happen.
And when the news came out about who conducted the attack, that 20-year-old kid, Crooks, it was, I believe that's his name, Crooks.
It was hard to fathom.
I'll fathom.
I almost did not believe it.
It seemed like a made-up story.
I couldn't believe it at first.
The gunshots also threw me off, but then I remembered, or not remembered, the sound that we were hearing was that supersonic crack.
And then you heard the rapport of the rifle going off in the background, the AR-15.
But the whole situation was weird, the entire thing.
The whole situation on day one.
Day one.
Day one.
Now, at the beginning, when we saw it, you know, everybody was showing the clips and all these videos were being posted.
So we're like, okay, how many shots is it?
Ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, and then 10 seconds later, ta.
Yep.
So I thought it was eight, then it was nine, then it was ten, right?
And then FBI Ray is being interviewed and he's asked, I don't know, Rob, if you got this clip or not, where he says, you know, a total of 10 shots by only one shooter, okay, is what he's claiming.
And he says, of course, there's a second shooter, but the second shooter is the one that killed the actual shooter.
This is when Ray says there's nothing more than that.
And he's confirming that in a hearing when he's asked that.
Rob, you'll find it here in a minute.
Is this it when he says how many shooters was there?
Yes, where he's asked, did Crooks fire eight shots?
To which he replies, eight cartridges were found on the roof.
He says eight cartridges were found on the roof.
Gordon played this clip, Rob.
Did Crooks fire eight shots?
We have recovered eight cartridges on the roof.
Okay.
Did Crooks fire?
We fired.
So at this point, it's been a couple weeks.
What do you know now yourself, having followed this closely?
I know that the Secret Service messed up big time.
And not just, I think it was at the highest level.
I don't think that the communication from the local guys on the ground, I think there was a delay in communication.
If not a delay, there was no communication at all, which is like a big screw up on their behalf.
You're supposed to have that direct line of communication, especially for, you know, you have the former president of the United States and it looks like possibly could be the, you know, president of the United States once again.
Just the lack of security and the, I guess, the neglect of not having security measures in place, the communications in place.
From what I know now, it just seems like I don't want to be like a conspiracy theorist, but it almost feels like it was a setup at this point.
There was so much failures from the top down.
So when did you start believing maybe it is a setup?
Was it from day one?
Was it day two, day three, week one, week two?
When did you say, you know what, this is a little too weird now?
It was day one when we found out that the 20-year-old kid climbed up on the rooftop.
When I heard that he was on the rooftop, that was like a big sign for me that, you know, why was a counter sniper team not having eyes on a vantage point like that, the high ground?
That's like military 101.
A civilian knows that.
You want to have not access, but you want to have eyes on the high ground.
You want to dominate the high ground.
I'd rather be on the high ground during an ambush as opposed to being on the receiving end beneath.
That really threw me off from a sniper's perspective, why someone was allowed to be on a rooftop within 400 feet or so from the presidential nominee.
That does not make any sense to me.
So did you, Rob, which video is this, Rob, that you have?
This is Christopher Wray being asked if there were more than one shooter during the day.
Go ahead and play this clip.
A fairly active recreational shooter.
So he did plenty of a lot of guys in Western North Dakota, right?
I mean, all of those different things.
And somehow we came within under of an inch of a presidential candidate being shot and killed within 100 days out from an election.
And when you look at it, so just I just want to be really clear because there is a lot of this.
There is no evidence of another shooter, right?
I mean, another shooter.
Yeah.
I mean, there's the counter sniper who took out the shooter.
Right, right.
But you're talking about like anynyl.
And you're looking at his online and seeing all that, but there's no evidence he had any other accomplices on scene that day, correct?
Correct.
Not that we've seen yet, certainly.
And you said, and we, Oversights had a hearing, DHS had a hearing, we're having a hearing now.
The inspector general is going to investigate.
We're probably announcing a bipartisan outside panel.
But there's another investigation, too, right?
Because somebody has to clear the shooter, like even though it is a Secret Service officer deploying his.
I mean, when an FBI when when an FBI agent kills somebody in the line of duty, what's the process?
So we have what we call an agent-involved shooting, is I think what you're getting at.
We have a whole process.
Does he get put on leave, paid leave, get a lawyer, depending on how it is, right?
Well, some of those things depend, but we have our inspection division does a shoot review of each time when there's one of these situations.
And they sometimes have to coordinate with local communities.
From the sounds and the clips, Rob, do you have that clip that came out yesterday that Trump was speaking?
Crooks was walking right behind him.
I think we have it.
Did you see that one?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you can see his head just above or below the side.
behind trump like yeah it doesn't seem like it is a uh uh yeah that's him right behind him i'm I mean, look at that.
You're looking at the saying, wait a minute.
That's scary.
Right there.
Crooks is moving.
You see his head again.
Pop up.
Right there.
That's scary.
400 feet.
And you mean to tell me Secret Service can't see that?
You mean to tell me a sniper doesn't see that?
You mean to tell me somebody who's professional doesn't see that?
So do you think from your angle, with all these professionals you work with on the past, are you under the impression that there was only one shooter aside from Crooks?
Meaning it's just Crooks?
I want to believe that, but there's something about that water tower that almost stands out to me a little too much.
If anything, as a counter sniper, I would want to have somebody on that water tower.
Do I believe that he was the lone shooter?
It's almost like asking, do you believe Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin for JFK?
I think it's a I don't like I don't want to sound like too much of a conspiracy theorist, but it just that water tower does stand out to me big time.
When you say water tower, you're talking to that water tower overlooking where Trump was speaking at.
Now, let me ask you, how many assignments of protecting high-profile people have you been a part of?
Oh, well over 100.
Well over 100.
Can you give some names that you could on who you've worked with that you've protected?
Some Supreme Court justices, members, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, the head of, I believe it was ExxonMobil at the time.
Rex Tillerson?
I'm not sure of his name.
It was the, I believe it was Exxon.
A lot of Supreme Court, some politicians from Congress and Senate, they came over.
And then you had telecommunications.
Yeah, this guy is like a he's one of the most heavyweight guys.
You know, he was the former U.S. Secretary of State himself.
Okay.
Who else?
Off the top of my, that's, I'm not too familiar with names.
I just know positions.
And a lot of them came from the Congress, Senate.
Okay, so every time you had these 100 missions, how many snipers would be on these missions?
Give a high low.
Like you could say, for Supreme Court on this mission, it was only one.
But this time with Biden and Hillary Clinton, it was an XYZ place.
We had eight.
How many is it?
On the low end, depending on who it would be and where we would operate it, you'd have as few as two snipers.
The most I've had on a mission was around 10 guys.
10 guys?
And who was the 10?
That was for Joe Biden when he came in.
As a president, as a VP?
Yep, vice president.
What year was that?
That was around 2000 and I want to say 11, 10, 10 or 11.
So we're talking 14 years ago, 13 years ago.
And Obama's obviously not a company, it's just Vice President Joe Biden.
Where was this?
How big was the crowd?
You know, what was the optics?
Is it thousands of people?
Was it public?
Was it in a hotel?
What was it like?
He landed in Baghdad.
That's where we picked him up at.
And we met with this Secret Service detail.
It was a small detail.
Drove him around to the embassy and to conduct a few meetings outside the embassy in what we would call the red zone, out of the green zone.
And we were, I mean, going through the city of Baghdad in Iraq, there's thousands of people, thousands of people.
Once we got to the venue, it's where we would have, we would position our set up our counter snipers and on rooftops and in vehicles and things of that nature.
But once on venue, a few hundred people, max, driving through the city to get to a venue, thousands of people.
And at that time, he's a vice president.
He's not a guy that everybody's watching.
Like when Kamalo was a vice president, there's a difference between Joe Biden as a VP in 2011 versus, you know, Barack Obama in 2011 as a president.
You have to protect them immensely.
Then there is Trump 2024 with the level of controversy and all that stuff.
So you would assume an event like this would maybe even be more than eight or 10 for president.
So if you guys had eight or 10 for Joe Biden in Afghanistan, how many did you have for Hillary Clinton and what year was that?
It was around the same, eight to ten snipers, and that was in Baghdad as well.
I believe that same year.
I remember she came over and she lost a BlackBerry, a secured BlackBerry phone.
And we had to.
Was she forced to delete the emails in the BlackBerry?
Oh, there was some deletion going on.
Right.
Makes sense.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
And this is also in Afghanistan?
That was Iraq.
That was Iraq.
Okay.
So for me, when we've done a lot of events in the last 20-something years, I run a sales office when we would see any office we're doing an event at.
Okay, greeters, you're going to stand here.
Three people parking.
People are going to come from here, from here.
Please direct them to park over here.
Keep these spots for guests, associates, and licensed agents.
You guys park in the back, so all the best parking for guests is going to be in the front.
When you're greeting, here's the script.
This is what you ask him.
You give them the sticker, hello, my name is.
And then you direct them.
You guys will stand and give a tour.
One person here, one person here, one person here.
Just kind of move them all along to go into the big meeting.
Once they enter the meeting, you're going to be able to greet people and walk them around.
Make sure they're being networked.
Don't just leave them hanging by themselves.
Take them to the next person and hand them off like there's something that's going on with a handoff.
While we're going through the meeting, here's what we're going to do: we're going to hand out the cards, and here's how we're going to ask the questions at the beginning, in the middle, at the end.
If somebody needs to use the restroom, escort them to the bathroom so they feel like they're being greeted properly.
At the end of the meeting, give them the cards, ask them the following question, have them go into meetings if they want to.
Schedule there's so many things that you can, and I've done this thousands of times over the last 20-something years that it's just kind of like clockworks, right?
You look at this.
You've done 100-plus assignments.
If they said right now, hey, guys, in two weeks, we have an event that's going on in Butler, Pennsylvania.
The city's population is 13,000 people.
But President Trump's going to be speaking.
There's going to be an outdoor place that he's speaking.
Keep in mind, this is right after the debate taking place.
It's two weeks after the debate with Biden, which we know what's going on.
There's a lot of weird things that are being announced right now.
Go back to that picture, Rob.
Stay on that picture if you could.
Okay, what would you think, me as your supervisor, if I'm the supervisor, looking at this, where would you automatically say, we need somebody over there?
We need to sweep this area.
We need to go look at this.
A week before we got to do this, three days before this, on the day of we have to look at this, an hour before we got to check this.
Well, how would you process this location?
Immediately, I'm going for the high ground.
You have the water tower.
We're talking weeks out.
Weeks out, I'm scanning the outer perimeter, that tree line, making sure there's no devices in there.
Which tree line?
To the right?
To the right, right behind, well, essentially, most of the tree line, especially to the right where it's thicker vegetation.
You're checking for devices in it.
Any devices?
What kind of devices are you looking for?
Remote control, explosive devices that can be remote control, detonated.
We have the EFP, I believe that's what it's called.
Devastating explosive device or IED, essentially.
How do you check for that, by the way, in the trees?
We're scanning.
You have the technology to scan to see if that's out there.
You do have technology.
We also have jammers and stuff like that, which is weird why they didn't employ their jammers during this entire venue.
When I heard that Crooks launched a drone prior to his attempted assassination attempt, he had a drone that was flying over.
That should have been jammed, in my opinion.
I would scan the tree line, make sure there's no positions, pre-designated positions that someone could have set up in there.
If I were a sniper, I would plan on waiting for like a week.
If that was a really high-value target and I wanted to take someone out, I'm going to wait there for at least a week.
I would struggle, but four or five days is no issue.
If you wanted to take them out, if you wanted to take who out?
If I wanted to take out a high-value target such as Trump, I would have my position planned weeks in advance, and I'm staying out there at least a week prior to that.
I'm just not going to show up on the field and start shooting.
It would be a week out.
Scan the tree line, of course, all the buildings, scan the buildings, go through the buildings, make sure there's no devices in there, anything, or anybody where they could set up at.
Of course, the rooftops.
And there's not really too much that can be going or that you can have like vantage points to take out Trump.
It's a pretty good area to conduct a, if you wanted to, to have a rally like that, but there's not really too much that you have to scan for.
The tree line's not too thick.
You just have one little section off to the right.
That water tower is a big threat.
And of course, the rooftops that are within 500 or so feet from where Trump will be speaking from, that would be my biggest concern.
But after that, there's really not that much.
And I don't see anything that would pose any threat that, hey, a guy is going to take a shot from like the movie with Mark Wahlberg.
They were planning for that mile-long shot.
I don't know.
That's not happening.
There's not really any good vantage points for that to happen.
Everything's within 500 or so feet, 600 feet.
And that's.
Okay, so let me ask you this.
So, you know, as a, if you watch the movies where they're trying to find out who the killer was and how he committed the crime, right?
You have to think like that person, right?
Okay.
If you want to take out an asset like a President Trump, okay, in rank of order, where would you place yourself to have a shot at the president?
Rob, do you even have a better angle, better footage of where the audience sat?
If you can just get like a visual of the entire place, assassination attempt, what do you want to put?
No, there's a word to put that's going to bring that up.
Now, if you put in like a visual assassination attempt location, just with assassination attempt location.
Let's see.
Oh, there we go.
Is that a better one for you?
Not really, right?
Because you're not seeing the angle here.
So go back to that one.
That's also not a good one.
No, there should be a better picture, Rob.
Because what I'm trying to find out is if, keep looking forward while I'm asking the question.
If you're somebody that wants to take an asset like that and you say, okay, five locations.
I'm going to start off here, then here, then here, then here, then here.
What would be the best place for you to set up to take out a president?
Where would you set yourself up?
I would not set up on the water tower and I would not set up.
Okay, Rob, just go back to the same picture that you had before.
Just go to whatever you had before right there.
Where would you set up at?
Definitely not the water tower.
That's way too obvious.
I'm not too sure if those are homes over there, like a residential area.
Top left.
Top left.
That would not be a, well, it depends on where Trump is at.
That would not be a bad spot for me.
But I would want to, I'm going to priority.
I'll start from the worst location.
The worst location would be water tower.
Fourth worst location would be that scattered tree line.
I would go for right across that roadway up towards the top corner of the, where Trump is speaking at, or across the street from there.
I would, I guess that's where all the people were parking at, the attendees.
I would set up like the DC sniper did, shooting from the back of my vehicle.
And that way I could leave relatively pretty quick and keep my shots somewhat muzzled.
Yeah.
I would probably go for the parking lot or across the street as opposed to actually being anywhere on this scene right here.
The tree line would be, that's probably one of the worst places.
And if it was a suicide mission, I guess.
In a situation like this, I would want to keep moving, which would probably be from the trunk of my car, laying down all the seats in the vehicle, poking out either a taillight or some cars where they have the key you can put in.
I would pop that out and where the license plate is at, cut a hole in the top of that where I can see it out through the scope and probably take my shots from a vehicle and be off the scene right after I take the shot.
Let me ask you this.
So when you profile a person, like as a sniper yourself, you're taking out 33, right?
I don't know if you're a sports guy or not.
I don't know if you're a football guy.
Okay, so really, if you think about how many different offenses there is, there's not a thousand different offenses, right?
It's a certain number of offenses.
If I'm a running back and you can see I'm in play action running backs behind me, how many really plays do I have?
Okay, he's either running to the left, he's running to the right, he's running through, maybe doing a flea flicker.
Maybe I'm going to play action.
He's going to run out short.
Maybe I'm going to play action.
He goes out, pump, pump, wide receiver, hell, Mary, touchdown.
It's not 80 different options.
It's really 10 to 20 different options, let's just say.
For you guys in your world to know how a sniper thinks, is there like 50 different things that a sniper would do?
Is there like, no, the best snipers are going to have one of these five to 15 things that they would be doing?
That's a good question.
I think being a sniper, a really good sniper, it's more about deception.
And like you're thinking like a criminal, a bad guy.
I mean, you're an assassin.
So it's the possibilities that automatically, they come right to your head off the bat, those are your worst ones.
You want to think so far outside the box that even a good counter sniper would have to question himself or make a second guess of, hey, was this guy here?
Was he not here?
What seems obvious is what I don't want to do.
So you want to, a really good sniper is going to have plenty of options.
But again, not 100 options, but you want to have quite a few, quite a few.
If that means going out months in advance to dig an egress route or finding a good manhole cover that you can shoot from, get back inside that sewage underground, the tunnel system, and make your escape route that way as well.
But there's so many.
A good sniper is going to have a lot of tools in his toolbox.
That's a professional.
Really good.
Right.
We're talking about a professional.
And by the way, 33 confirmed kills, you're a bad guy to the enemy.
Big time.
Is that fair to say?
So they have to think how you set yourself up so they can take you out, right?
How many times were you, when you're taking out the 33, how often did they catch you or know where you were at where you almost almost killed you?
About twice, two times, two or three times.
One specifically was against a counter sniper, a cheching sniper.
We just made a really dumb call, essentially being out in the open field like that, and he pinned us down for about three hours.
The second time I had, or my team was kind of compromised was three days prior to that.
I was overwatching some Marines, and we set up a sniper hide in someone's essentially like their kitchen overseas.
And I'm not sure how they found us or I have no idea, but they start launching mortars and shooting rounds off in our general direction, but nothing like too, too close.
Managed to still pick off a few guys that operation.
And the third time, I'm not even going to say that they really had a lock on us.
Was, I think they were just sending bullets to where they thought the shots were coming from.
But nine times out of 10, they had no idea, no idea.
So to a professional sniper who is playing the game of deception, who is trying to take out a target, a great one, you're not going to be able to see what this person is doing, right?
Because they're playing a game of deception.
Now, our hopes is that our secret service knows that, that they're going to be able to catch a professional sniper that is a pro in deception, which, by the way, what part of Thomas Crooks' profile as a sniper showed you that he's prolific?
None.
None.
So how do we, as the greatest country in the world that we're supposed to have the greatest military in the world, how do we, with our secret service, not catch somebody who's an amateur sniper?
I think there's so much about it that screams incompetence or a setup.
But I also know having worked with Secret Service and training with Secret Service, their counter sniper teams, like they're good.
They're really good.
But if they were going up against, let's say, if a me or something like that, and I wanted to really stretch out some distances, I don't think so.
Like they'd have a hard time.
So you think even like you think out of 100 missions, you're hired to find leaks.
When I worked at Bally Total Fitness 20-something years ago, they have something called Shoppers.
What shoppers would do is shoppers would come to Bally's and they would sit there with a camera on their shirt and they would act like they want to buy a membership from you to see if you misrepresent.
Because Bally's had a criticism of the thing that they would get criticized for the most is they were selling 36 month contract memberships and people hated it because the salesperson wouldn't explain, Nick, you're buying a three-year contract of 40 bucks a month.
So Bally's would send people that would be told that these guys are just selling a membership without telling me the contract and you ask me the question and then boom, guess what?
A week later, we get an email saying, hey, Johnny, you're fired because you didn't disclose to XYZ clients that you had a 36-month contract.
Because of that, you're fired.
Here's the video if you want to say it.
A shopper caught you.
Bally's would do that.
And by the way, it was fantastic because everybody's like, I hope you shot me because I do it the right way.
And the other guys would shiver.
So if you, a sniper, they bring in all our secret service guys that are protecting our assets and your job is to deceive them in different locations.
Out of a hundred different training missions that we do, it's purely training purposes.
How many times do you think you would be able to deceive our existing Secret Service team that we have?
Out of 100 times?
Out of 100 times.
98.
Holy shit.
Oh, yeah.
Are you kidding me?
Oh, yeah.
They're not trained.
Like, they're good.
I'm not going to give away too much, but they're good.
They have technology on their side, but they're not as – I think the movies really, really pulled a number on them, hyped them up, I guess.
Like, they're good, but up against a really good sniper, there's not much they can do.
How do you know that?
Meaning, like, what?
I've worked with them.
That's what I'm saying.
So, PMC, private military contractor, like a black water Blackwater with Eric Prince, but you weren't with them.
You were with a different PMC that you were part of.
Okay.
And then also as a Ranger sniper yourself, right?
When you're interacting with, like, for example, if somebody talks to me about Jiu-Jitsu and they're kind of like, well, let me tell you, I do this.
And last night I'm talking to Russell Peters at the house.
We're having a cigar at the house till one o'clock.
He's telling me all these things about Jiu-Jitsu.
Guess what I know about it?
This much, right?
But if a Jiu-Jitsu guy talks to a Jiu-Jitsu guy, you can kind of know this is how much he knows, right?
Same with basketball, same with sports, same with business, same with investment, same with being a sniper.
How do you know when you talk to a Secret Service person where you say, yeah, this guy's photoshit, he has no clue what he's talking about.
What signs does it give you to say they're incompetent?
I'm not going to say that there's so many, it's not necessarily signs that they're giving off.
It's just the training that they've had to undergo.
And when I first initially left the military and I did my PMC time, after that, I ran a shooting school or shooting package.
And on three different occasions, the Secret Service came down to train with me and another instructor for a week at a time.
And once we got to certain distances, for guys like us, it's considered like, oh, that's a pretty good shot.
That's an easy shot.
But when they got on scope and got on glass and it came time to actually engage targets, it was night and day.
It was night and day.
They only stretched their rifles out so far.
And the line of work that they're doing, they're not, they're more of like your basic, I guess, SWAT team, high-level SWAT team sniper.
They're not shooting great distances.
If I wanted to assassinate a president or somebody like that, it would be, I'm stretching shots out like easily over half a mile.
And they're counter snipers, it'd be hard for them to plug me at that point.
Your experience from you guys as snipers talking in the marketplace, who's known for being the best snipers?
What country produces the best snipers?
Oh, with country, I would say, oh, wow, country.
Germany's pretty good.
Germany's pretty good.
That's almost like, that's basically where sniping started.
Germany's really good.
In the United States, military branch-wise, Marines.
The Marine Corps, they produce the best, absolute best snipers.
Why do you think Germans produce the best snipers?
They've had their schools for so long.
After a war, the U.S. military would kind of like disband the sniper schools.
I think they just got rid of one of the sniper schools in the Marine Corps, something like that.
There's a sniper school that they just recently disbanded.
So I'm, I believe that with the German snipers, they just never, they never, what is that?
After a century of a legend building, the Marine Corps is doing away with the scout sniper as part of a large force redesign.
And eight Marines who graduated on December 15th signaled the end of an era.
That's crazy.
That is insane.
Six months ago.
Some months ago.
They produced the best snipers.
I shot with the Marine Corps in the international sniper competition.
And that was like 60 or so sniper teams from all around the world.
They believe the Marines got third place.
We got fourth place.
Worldwide.
Worldwide.
Who was first?
Delta Force was first.
Delta's first.
So Delta is still ahead of Marines when it comes to being a sniper.
They're really good.
Who's second?
Navy SEALs or?
Surprisingly, no.
Green Berets were second.
The Green Berets were second.
Interesting.
Yeah, they have really good sniper.
If we take our Delta snipers, who won, and we put them up against Germany's snipers, how do we weigh against them?
Shooting, I would pick Delta on shooting.
When it comes to the tradecraft and the art of being a sniper and the stalking, I'm taking Germany.
Have you ever trained with the German snipers or no?
No, I went to Finland and I trained with the Finnish snipers and the Estonian counter snipers.
What did you hear about the methodology Germans use to train their snipers?
Their history and their lineage.
They're so old school, but they're really good at the fundamentals.
They are extremely good at the fundamentals.
And I think something that we kind of lack or that we did lack was we would kind of get cocky, I guess, a little bit, and we let technology start to take over.
They stayed so well with the basics, they had a really good grasp on the basics, and that's what made them really, really good.
Got it.
So, okay.
So let's flip this.
So the Secret Service members that are assigned to protect the most important assets, we're talking purely presidents.
Okay.
So Trump, Biden, Kamala, Obama, Bush, these guys.
Okay.
But you, as a sniper yourself, you know, out of a hundred different missions, 98% of the time, if you really wanted to take out an asset, you could do it successfully.
Oh, yeah.
So you think you could, out of a hundred different speaking engagements that Trump is doing, 98 out of 100 of them, if you really wanted to take out Trump, you could do it.
Oh, yeah.
So, okay.
So now, what makes, do you come from a place of if we were to put a number of how many people would want Trump eliminated, it's probably a big number, right?
Oh, yeah.
And if they just saw an amateur almost take out a president, and some of these guys worldwide are sitting there saying, that was, he almost did it as an amateur.
If he doesn't turn his head, he's dead.
Yeah.
Great.
That means America's Secret Service sucks.
They're delusional.
What do you think is the likelihood that another attempt could happen between now and Election Day?
That's scary.
I'm almost certain it's going to happen again.
I'm almost certain it's going to happen.
The political atmosphere right now, you can almost feel it.
It's so thick in the air.
You can feel it.
I know for a fact, well, I'm not going to say for a fact, but I believe if he were assassinated, waking up that next day would have been a different America.
I believe that.
I think it would be a different America, scary America.
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So let me ask you this.
If let's just say the Secret Service got very serious, this new director that got emotional yesterday.
I don't know if you saw him being interviewed and he's been asked all these questions and he's literally crying.
Like, you know, we're going through a lot of tough times and this is a difficult season for us.
Like tough times.
People died.
What are you talking about?
Josh Harley's like, we mean tough times.
People are not here.
You're worried about how tough time it is for you.
It's kind of like the former CEO of that oil company that's like, well, I have to tell you, the last 12 hours have been very hard on my family.
And they're like, dude, what about the people that died at the explosion of your oil place?
And you're worried about how hard the last, and then he had to come out and apologize.
I don't know if this was the BPCEO, BPCEO, right, that did that.
If right now, the director of Secret Service, the new one, Ronald Rowe, if they wanted to prevent it from happening and snipers like yourself within the community,
if they were to reach out and bring a PMC in to go and scope the event before it happens, what would you be able to lower that 98% to if you guys collectively worked with Secret Service, the professional snipers that we have at the highest level, how low could you bring that number to?
Really low.
We're talking out of 100 times?
Out of 100 times.
It'd have to be like Your average impossible for them to pull it off.
Impossible for another enemy sniper to take out one of our assets, President.
Oh, yeah.
If it's going to be another sniper and it's sniper against like our snipers, our good snipers against another sniper, it'd be really, really tough to pull that.
Okay, did you see the text exchange between the Secret Service, not secret, was it the Secret Service guys or the snipers?
No, the text exchange between the snipers.
Can you pull up this text?
Rob, you have the video.
Instead of just searching it, go to the video that you have.
There's a video that's being played where they're asking, saying, Were you guys in a text?
Do you know which video I'm talking about, Rob?
Let me take a look real quick.
Yeah, you have a video because it's one of the ones we talked about where the gentleman says they're telling each other.
Let me see if we have it here.
This is the one, Rob.
Just go to the one that I thumbs up in the text.
It's a CNN sniper who spotted the shooter at Trump rally speaks out and they texted each other in a group text.
Did you see this or no?
You have to see this.
So this is CNN conducting this interview.
Watch the whole thing and we'll come back to it.
Go forward.
Whenever they arrived, and that never happened.
We had no communication with the Secret Service.
Members of a local SWAT team assigned to protect Donald Trump the day of the assassination attempt now say the Secret Service never met with them face to face.
They spoke to ABC News about the lack of action.
We had a text group between the local snipers that were on scene.
I had sent those pictures out to that group and advised them of what I noticed and what I'd seen.
Over an hour and a half before the rally started, okay, kid leaning around building we are in.
AGR, I believe it is.
I did see him with a range finder looking towards stage.
FYI, if you want to notify Secret Service snipers to look out, I lost sight of him.
Also, a bike with backpacks sitting next to it in rear of building that was not seen earlier.
Call it into command and have a uniform check it out.
Keep playing it.
This is a text exchange between, I think the group text is seven of them, if I'm not mistaken.
Keep playing it.
Learning around building we are in.
A little typo there.
I did see him with a rangefinder looking towards stage.
FYI, if you want to notify SS snipers to look out, I lost sight of them.
So during a mission, first, I'll just open it up.
Do you have any thoughts on just hearing what he has to say?
The sniper?
That was really good target detection.
Like in the sniper community sniper world, that's called TD target detection.
And him picking out the, hey, the bike wasn't here a minute ago.
It is here now with the back.
It was really good target detection and really good communication between those snipers.
What should happen in a traditional missions that you've been a part of, 100 plus, what should happen next?
That should have immediately went to the Secret Service.
Okay, but it did, though.
Based on the text, it did immediately go to Secret Service.
Oh, they send it to command.
What should happen then?
They should have had uniforms right there on the spot, like within seconds.
Within seconds.
They should have had uniformed officers confronting that Crooks guy right there on the spot.
There should have not even been a delay like that.
No, it was way too long of a delay.
That should have been, once it was called out and you have your counter snipers saying, hey, we have some really suspicious activity.
And especially like with the laser rangefinder, that only tells me one thing, you know, that this guy wants to engage, you know, possibly Trump or whoever, but there's no reason why you have a laser rangefinder during a rally.
The only reason why I would want to use that is to engage a target.
He should have had uniformed officers on him from immediately.
Yeah, I mean, this again prompts a lot of different questions.
Okay, let's continue.
So if they call you and they say, hey, Nick, we want to help you.
And in the sniper community, how many other snipers are you in communication with that you've known over the years?
How many snipers do you come to?
To this day?
I just talked to one yesterday.
It's well over 30.
Of the 30, how many of the 30 did you guys communicate collectively together last two weeks?
Oh, it's been nonstop.
With all 30 of you?
Just about, yeah.
And what is everybody saying?
Is any one of the friends that are snipers like you, is anybody saying something unique?
Are you guys all on the same page?
Is there a debate where one person says, no, I think it's this, no, I think it's this?
How aligned are you guys with what you think happened?
98% of us are on the same page that it just seems like a setup.
And then there's like two other guys that believe that there was more than one shooter, more than one shooter.
And I think the reasoning behind that is because of the accuracy of that eight-round burst that he had with that AR-15.
He obviously had some shooting skills prior to engaging Trump, but it was just his accuracy with that eight to nine round burst and the video when the first shot is, when he first, when Crooks sends that first shot, they don't see any recoil and they don't see any disturbance from the muzzle during that first shot when Crooks is engaging.
Have you listened to the sound of the eight shots to see if it's the same exact weapon?
It sounds like it to me.
It sounds like it's the same weapon, but then you can hear the return fire like 10 seconds or so after that.
To me, it sounds like it's from the same direction.
Whether it's from that rooftop or not, I'm not, I can't without, you know, I'd have to, I guess, be there on the ground.
Rob, is this the five shots or the eight shots?
This is the five shot burst.
Then the last four were world record speeds.
You see what I'm saying?
That's weird.
That's weird to me.
And I could see why the other two guys that I've talked to are like, it sounds and it feels like there may have been one.
Let me ask.
Can you play this, Rob?
Sure.
So get this.
Here's what I want.
So those five shots, one, two, three, four, five.
This is mysterious because these five shots here, when you take a look at them from the beginning of the first shot to the beginning of the fifth shot, so that's how fast you could take those five shots.
It turns out that the total thing is only 0.775 seconds from beginning to end.
Now, as a shooter, I'll tell you, you kind of have to work at it to get five shots off in 0.775 seconds.
A 55 is kind of slow at this range.
So I'm going to listen really good for that timer.
Get in the center and punch out five.
See if we can make it under a second.
And this guy's good.
Here we go.
So let me ask you, what's your time?
Like, if you were to shoot the five shot as a professional sniper, 33 confirmed kills, what will your time be with the five shots?
At that distance, like within 150, 130 yards, five shots, I'm feeling it.
Accurately, 1.5 seconds, possibly.
And you're a professional.
You're at 1.5.
And that's getting like, if I want all hits, and that still is at that distance, it's a chip shot, but that rapid pace, that's kind of that, that's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
What if it's not even accuracy?
What if it's just like, you know, you're an amateur?
How fast could you go if accuracy was like within 95%?
You're not trying to be 100% accurate.
How many seconds would it take to get five shots off?
About a second, about a second.
So even a quarter of a second less than what this guy did.
Yeah.
And this guy's supposed to be an amateur?
Right.
It's weird.
It's weird.
Okay, out of all your 30 friends, snipers that you're in communication with, how many of the 30 could do five shots in 0.75 seconds?
We're capable of doing it, but that's, we're looking at with an M4 AR, unsupported, prone position.
And not only that, he's not even using a scope.
He has just a red dot.
We're still looking at about my time.
That's about a second.
So even out of all your 30 peers who are professional snipers, none of them could hit the 0.75 seconds?
0.7?
That's a fast speed to get five rounds off.
So how does an amateur do that, Nick?
No idea.
No idea.
The whole thing screams conspiracy.
The whole thing does.
The whole thing does.
That's a fast shot.
And at that distance, you got to think in basic training, well, I would zero my weapon.
Let's get out of basic.
I zero my weapon at 100 yards.
And that's putting five bullets into object the size of a quarter.
But that takes, of course, time.
If I'm going to use like an AR-15, 0.75 seconds is extremely fast to get five rounds off at that distance.
Who's the greatest sniper you've ever been around?
That I've ever been around.
That you shot with.
Wow.
It'd have to be the guy who ran my sniper section in battalion.
Okay, so the guy who ran the section and your battalion, what would he be able to do?
About a second.
See, same thing.
Under a second is fast.
Under a second, at close distance, I could do about 0.7, half a second.
And that's cranking out as fast as I can, but at really close room distances.
Not 150 yards.
Ridiculous too.
Yeah, not 150 yards, though.
Now I'm going to have to go back and try it.
I'll send you the times.
But that's a tough shot for under a second.
Five rounds.
Rob, can you check in the Slack brand and just send you something a slack?
Pull up.
I want to look at the all 10 shots, and I just want to get your organic reaction to the 10 shots and how you see the whole thing.
The three, the five, the one, and the one.
Rob, if you have it, if you can just go to it so we can, is that the one?
This is the one he just sent, yes.
Okay, let's see what that is.
for it that's nine That sounds like the counter sniper right there.
That second burst that he had was quick.
The first three shots, if you could tell, were more focused shots, but that second burst that he had was really pretty quick.
Does the first nine sound like it's the same weapon?
Can you play one more time?
Let him listen to one more time.
Go for it.
That's a different one right there.
The ninth one?
Yep, that's a different one.
And that's a different one.
You can just tell from the sound of it.
Now, Nick, how many times have you heard the sound of a weapon being shot?
How many thousands of times?
Just give a number.
How many times?
Hundreds of thousands.
Hundreds of thousands of times.
In one training cycle, we would easily fire about 100,000 rounds.
Okay, so it could be half a million shots.
Okay, so you know a great mechanic will sit at a restaurant and he'll play the game.
You know, the game is like, you know how we'll play the game?
What song is this?
You have to guess it within the first two seconds.
And he's like, oh, it's this song.
Yeah, I remember that.
80s, da, da, da.
Okay, great.
A professional mechanic will sit at a shop, all right?
We're at dinner or we're doing something.
He's like, you hear that car?
Yeah, that's a McLaren P, ba, da, da, da.
You hear that?
That's a motorcycle.
It's not a Ducati.
That the cow was a, you hear that?
That's a Honda, you know, such and such.
Hey, can you hear that?
That's a Toyota Supra 1998.
That's a Nissan 300ZX.
That's a Ferrari.
That's a Corvette Z06.
No, that's the Corvette ZR1.
A great professional person who knows cars knows the sound of an engine.
Okay?
That's their job.
It's music to their ears.
Like a musician can hear a song and just go on the piano and be able to play it within a second because that's what professionals do.
You're a professional.
If I right now took you and I had you look at me, not being able to see who's shooting what behind you, and we have 50 weapons to shoot, okay?
And these are weapons that you know all of them.
Let's say we're just 20 weapons, that you know all of them, right?
How many of the weapons of the 20 would you be able to accurately guess what sound matches what weapon?
Oh, pretty almost 100% accuracy.
Yeah.
So 20 out of 20 you could.
Oh, yeah.
So if right now we brought 30 different snipers, 30 different professional shooters like you, like yourself, and we say we want you to listen to this.
What does it sound like?
You heard four weapons or three weapons?
I heard two.
I can definitely tell that the first one is a 556 AR platform.
And the two shots that came after that almost sounds like a .308, I'm going to say SR-25, but definitely a .308 caliber rifle.
But it also sounds like it's incoming fire at that point, too.
Those last are not incoming.
It's a closer, it's in closer proximity to the microphone, whoever has the microphone.
But those first initial shots was definitely the AR-15.
Can you play it one more time, Rob?
How far does the ninth and tenth shot sound?
Not the first eighth, the ninth and the tenth.
Go ahead, Rob, if you can play this.
That's further away.
That's.
That's further away.
The last one.
That last one was further away.
I'd say from the microphone, that's over 100 yards, over 100 yards away.
That last one definitely was a different one.
The last two are definitely different, but that last one was very distinct, very distinct.
It's just weird how, and I thought I heard it the first time when I first heard that shooting clip.
I was like, that's two different, two different rifles, completely two different rifles.
And they're saying that that all came from Crooks.
Yeah, they're saying it's a one-shooter and the one at the end that killed him.
Oh, no.
It's definitely two different rifles going off.
Now, here's another one.
I don't want to throw a curveball.
Rob, you want to play the clip of saying the fact that he got shot?
There's a clip that came up that showed that some are saying that maybe even he got shot when he was on top of it.
I don't know if you have that clip, Rob.
It's not this one.
It's not this one.
It's one that shows.
Let me see if I got it for you.
So Crooks shot before.
There's a video if you just go on.
Yeah, if you type in on Twitter, type in Crooks shot before.
Okay.
Crooks shot before.
This is one that just came out, I think, today, 11 hours ago.
And this is that a lot of people are sharing.
Again, keep in mind, we don't know any of this stuff.
We're purely speculating.
Actually, go to the Colin Rugg video if you can.
That second one right there.
So let's first read what he says, and then let's play because that clip's got 10 million views.
Video filmed by a Trump PA rally victim shows a person running on top of the roof, which we know it's Thomas Crooks, shot from moments before Trump was shot in the face.
This video was obtained by Fox News and filmed by James Copenhaver, who was shot twice.
The video was taken at 6.08, just three minutes before Crooks opened fire.
It's unclear how the snipers did not pick this up.
Okay, go ahead and play the clip, Rob.
So watch this.
I think there's okay.
This is the one without music in it.
Okay, because you don't want to have the music in it.
Go ahead.
Can we bring him up for a couple of minutes?
You get ready, Mr. Army.
You get ready.
The world will see a vibrant Republican party.
Do you have another one?
There's one that shows that zooms in and slows down him being shot.
You're kidding.
No, no, there zooms in and shows.
Now, again, we don't, I'm not, I don't want to speculate here.
I'm just saying there is.
Oh, whoa.
There is somebody up there.
Man one and man two.
You're kidding.
Yeah.
This is the one, Rob.
Is that a flag or a man to the left?
It says man.
And then if Crooks comes up, he's dead.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Look again.
go.
Yeah, that right there shows that's a sudden move.
Wow.
This just came out.
Oh.
And by the way, they're saying this is two or three minutes before him getting shot.
Okay, so now you can pause this.
How does that make you feel just watching that?
I mean, the way I would ask it is the following: if we assume Secret Service is ran by professionals, what's the likelihood that there would be somebody on the left side ready to take out the guy that they spotted?
If you're assuming Secret Service and snipers are professionals, someone would be up there.
Someone would be up there.
So let's first confirm that if we want to say the Secret Service members are pros and they're protecting the most controversial asset worldwide, whose name is Donald Trump, then one would assume that, yes, I'm not surprised that a man one is on the left that would take out the other guy, right?
Exactly.
Okay, looking at man two, which is Crooks, the way it looks, some may say, well, the graphics are not that clear where it's not this, where it's not that.
From the way you look at it, does it look like he's getting shot?
Honestly, it may be a pixelation issue.
Secondly, it would be the fact that no one heard that.
Even if the guy was shooting suppressed, you're going to hear it's a relatively loud snap.
Even when I had, you know, most of my shots, if not, you know, most of them, the majority, were all suppressed.
And the guys on the ground 100, 300 yards away would still hear me cracking off right now.
Can you tell me what to Google to know what the sound of a suppressed gun?
Like, give me whatever gun and I'll put suppressed.
See what it sounds like.
SR25 suppressed.
SR-25 suppressed.
Rob, can you just go type in SR-25 suppressed and then go to the is this one?
Is this the same rifle I use?
Okay, go for it.
Let's hear it.
Is that suppressed or no?
Is that not suppressed?
That's slowed down.
That's not the yeah, that has to be a slower.
Here we go.
There we go.
So there's still a sound.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Got it.
There's no way you're not going to hear that.
You would hear that, honey.
Can you go back and see with Trump speaking?
Is the video showing with Trump speaking or no?
Or is it just a video?
Like the audio does it allow us hearing Trump's you're not hearing that, right?
I'm not.
Well, then that's another thing because if that clip is being played and they're adding B-roll to it and it doesn't have the song, go to a 12-second one.
See if the 12 second one we can hear Trump.
Nope, there's no sound.
Okay, so this too is this is nothing.
You don't I don't think so.
I think it's a pixelation issue, especially like right when he goes behind that wire, whatever that wire is, I think it gets kind of distorted.
Yep.
But you would definitely hear a suppressed shot over him speaking.
Okay, so let's say, let's say, Nick, you're President Trump's son.
And you're a son that served the military, you're a well-known decorated sniper like yourself, 33 confirmed three and a half months, Afghanistan, 100-plus assignments you've been on, protecting a VP, protecting Hillary, First Lady, protecting a bunch of Supreme Court guys.
After this event happens, he's at the house or on the Trump plane, and you're talking to him.
And even fast forward to a week later, after you've seen all these different things that is going on, you're sitting with the family.
It's yourself.
It's, say, his daughter, Ivanka, Jr., Eric, all the people that are involved.
What are you telling your father?
I'm telling him to, if not, switch up his entire team.
My dad, that's a tough one.
I'd feel I would not want him to continue to run under that Secret Service detail.
It would be, I would be in fear of my dad losing his life every time he went out because it feels like the powers that be possibly just don't want him to be in power.
And the amount of just controversy, and there's more questions than we have answers at this point.
And I don't think it should, we shouldn't even be at this level.
I think that I would be in fear of my dad's life, and I would debate whether I would be comfortable with him continuing on to even venture out and hold these rallies or even let alone become the next president.
Okay, so let's roleplay.
You say that to me and I tell you, Nick, you're overthinking it.
America needs me right now.
We need to make America great again.
You know I'm not going to stop.
So I understand I love you.
You're my son.
I appreciate you giving me love and looking out for me.
But tell me this.
I'm going to do this.
What I need from you is, what can we do and what do we need to do internally ourselves to make sure we're fully protected?
100% re-vet everybody.
Go back through the vetting process again.
Re-vet everybody.
Somebody's from at the highest level.
You'd have to.
I would go back and re-vet everyone.
Okay, so what's your process for vetting?
So he's going to ask you, okay, so how do we re-vet them?
What do you ask him?
I want polygraphs on everybody in the details.
Polygraphs.
Oh, yeah.
No shit.
Yeah, 100%.
At that level, yes, you have to.
You have to.
Okay, I'm following polygraph.
What else?
I want polygraphs done, complete history check for the past 10 years, and possibly even look at cell phone records as well.
I need to know who you're talking to, texting, work phone, personal phone.
Yeah, 100%.
Those would be my big three.
Okay, so I got a polygraph, a complete list of work history last 10 years, cell phone.
And so on the polygraph test that you do, what questions are you asking me?
I'm one of the guys.
What are you going to ask me?
Did you have any prior knowledge to the attempted assassination attempt?
Did you have any prior knowledge that anything, I guess, yeah, did you have any prior knowledge of an assassination attempt against Donald Trump would be one question.
What's another good question?
Trying to ask or think of some that we've been asked.
Maybe do you have any hate towards Donald Trump?
Do you have any hate or disdain towards Donald Trump?
Are you in communication with anybody in the FBI or the CIA who has given you direction on those are scary questions?
Okay, so now let's just say he says to you, that's a great idea.
He goes to his guy and says, everybody needs to be vetted with these following three.
Say the team is 100 people, 50 people.
They're going to go vet.
Okay.
Of the 50 people that you're going to go vet, 10 people say, I'm not going to go through the polygraph test and give up my phones.
You're done.
Automatic, you're right.
Automatic.
Automatic.
You're done.
Okay.
The other 40 that say yes, you go through it.
Say two people come out.
You feel uncomfortable.
Well, now you keep the 38.
Yep.
And then what do you do to replace the other 12?
Who do you go recruit?
Where do you bring in from?
Who else do you bring into the team?
I would go to the special operations community.
To the PMC side?
PMC side?
100%.
That's where I would go.
They have way more training.
They have more real-world experience in high-threat environments like that.
And I think that not having that level of threat, sometimes people can kind of get complacent and lackadaisical on the job.
They're like, hey, there's no threat.
We've never been shot at.
No assassination attempt has been conducted since like 1981 or somewhere around that time.
March 31st of 81.
80 Reagan.
Yep.
So I think that you can kind of get complacent and you feel invincible at that point.
But I would go to the guys who have been in combat and been in that environment for like the past 20 plus years.
And they're used to that line of work.
They know where to look and how to operate.
You know, when we were watching Kim Cheeto and all these guys are being interviewed, we need 60 to 90 days of investigation to get the report back to you.
60 to 90 days.
What are you talking about, right?
How many of these fixes are quick fixes?
Like what you're asking for right now, Donald is going to say, no, I'm going to continue.
Tell me the feedback.
Then that, if that's the case, polygraph 100%, complete history of the 10 years.
Cell phone records, I need to know exactly what the communication is.
Check, check, check.
We do that.
How quickly can we make these adjustments to increase the chance of us being safe?
Oh, matter of weeks.
Oh, so still weeks, though.
Matter of weeks.
So that's still going to take a couple of weeks.
Yeah.
So we're losing a few weeks of campaign trail.
I think that's worth it.
I think it's 100% worth it.
I'd rather have a guy campaigning than no guy at all.
Have you are you still working with any PMCs or not at all?
No, no.
When's the last time you worked with a PMC?
2012 on the record?
I'm assuming on the record.
So off the record, we don't know, but 2012 on the record.
Okay, fair.
So have you or any of your 30 snipers that are top 30 of the best snipers in the world, definitely in America, have they gotten any calls from any PMC saying we need new people to be hired to protect the president?
Has there been any activity in the back end?
Negative.
It's more so, guys are going overseas.
The latest hotspot, where is this guy going?
I want to say it was Libya.
I think it was Libya.
Somewhere around that area.
But yeah, no phone calls from the market.
So let me ask you, let's just say, let's just say if I'm part of the Trump administration, I'm close to him and I say, look, President, we've raised, let's just say, $400 million, give or take, whatever the dollar amount is.
We have to hire people.
How much would it cost me to hire 10 of the best snipers from a PMC for them to be vetted with all these things that I have here to bring in that I'm going to have them with me between now and November 5th?
10 snipers.
What would it cost me between now and November 5th?
So let's do the math.
That's 90 days, so three months.
So calculate three months for 10 snipers.
$1,000 a day.
$1,000 a day.
So it's really $900,000.
Bro, that's nothing.
Are you freaking kidding me?
That's about, that's a good paying game.
Oh, my.
$10,000 a day.
Are you kidding me?
So, so I can go.
So, okay, so I can get a hold of 10 snipers that I can have with 90 days.
And who else would you hire?
Typically, let's just say you want to develop, like we're developing a new site, an aggregator site that we're using 15 machine learning guys, but we need to have a project manager that's managing these guys to make sure we hit the hard deadline.
So we're getting weekly reports and all this other stuff.
So if I get 10 snipers that I bring in, who else do I need to hire to be able to manage and lead these guys to work together?
What else would I need?
One manager, one team lead.
Of course, your weapons.
You need the armorer.
Yeah, it's a let's go with it.
One manager, one team lead.
How much is that?
90 days.
$1,200, $1,500 a day?
$1,500 a day.
So let's just go $1,500 a day.
That's $135,000 over 90 days.
Team lead and manager, same price.
Can we say the same price?
So let's say $270,000 I got right there.
Okay.
I have $900,000 for the 10 snipers we're looking at.
And then how much is it to rent the weapons?
Or do guys bring their own weapons?
I would probably go with the weapons they asked for, get new weapons.
How much is that going to cost me?
10 snipers?
High-end.
We'll get some really good glass to Schmidtbender scopes.
Maybe some 6.5s, 308s.
All in all, you could probably 10 snipers.
Everything, everything you need, 100 grand.
A total for the 10.
So 10 grand.
Talking radios, everything, yeah.
So to rent those equipments for 90 days is 10 grand per sniper for 90 days.
You can go a little bit higher than that.
There's some running about $15,000, $20,000.
Let's say $20,000.
Okay, so we got another $200,000 for equipment.
At this point, I'm at 117.
I'm at $1,370,000.
And if we were able to do that, Nick, if we were able to do that, we spent $1.4 million to get 10 snipers like you who are very good at what they do with two team leads, all the equipment properly.
Between now and November 5th, what would be the likelihood of somebody being able to take out President Trump?
Did you say impossible?
Impossible.
President Trump's administration, I hope you're listening to this.
Okay?
And is it easy for them to get a hold of PMCs to get this done?
Oh, yeah, 100%.
So how many PMCs are there right now that they can call that can help with this?
At that level, snipers, not many snipers.
I would say good, active, still up to calls.
Thousands.
There's a few thousand.
There's a few thousand snipers.
Three to five thousand snipers.
Three to five thousand snipers.
And is there a way for me to get to the top 1% of all the snipers?
If it's like a 3,000 snipers, I get the top 30.
Yeah, I know a guy.
Okay.
And so would those, would the cost for that go higher than $1,000 a day?
At that level, you can bump it up to probably $1,500 a day.
And we're talking the best, $1,500 to $2,000.
$2,000 a day, you're going to get some high-quality SAS style Delta Force guy.
Let's go to $2,000 a day.
That makes it $1.8 million.
I'll have to add another $900,000 to this budget.
We're still only at $2.27 million.
You got a good team.
And if I get these guys that are Delta guys for the next 90 days, am I bulletproof 100%?
Bulletproof.
So for me, see, the process we just went through right now, and I appreciate you helping me out going through this process together.
One, as a son, what would your feedback be?
Number one, dad, stop.
I don't want you to do this because we love you.
We don't want you to do anything.
You went straight as a son talking to the father.
Father tells you, I appreciate the love.
I'm doing this for America.
You can't stop me.
I'm going to do it now.
I want you to think about what things for me to do if we were to move forward.
Perfect.
I knew you were going to say that, and I'm ready for that.
Number one, we have to go in, check everybody out, polygraph.
Number two, we have to make sure we check their 10-year work history.
Number three, we have to go out there and get all their phone records, who they're communicating with.
Anybody that doesn't even want to do this, they're out.
Okay, these guys don't want to do it.
You're out.
These other guys want to do it.
Come on in.
Next, we need to go get 10 of the best snipers, a team leader manager, get the equipment that's going to cost us around $2.2, $2.3 million.
Okay, make the call.
I want all the 10 snipers to be former Delta guys.
I got them.
They're lined up.
They love you.
They want to work for you.
Perfect.
Let's go.
Now we're safe and protected.
Let's roll.
Let's go on the campaign trail.
100%.
And from the process of us deciding we're going to spend this $2.2 million to getting the guys here with me today, how long would this take?
Weeks, a couple of weeks, a week and a half.
So a week and a half would be what?
It's kind of like, you know, you're watching some of these movies where they're like, hey, guys, hey, you know, shit, I'm on a prime visa.
I'm in.
Okay, boom.
We need you to meet you in 10 days over here.
Yes, we're in.
Too easy.
That's it.
Too easy.
Okay.
It could be less than that.
Less than that.
Especially in an occasion like this, where it's such a historic moment.
People may want to do it for less money.
People may want to do it more even.
I've heard pro bono.
I've heard guys who would do it for free.
I know guys who would do it for free.
Like, really.
The best of the best that we do.
I believe it.
Yeah.
Because I get people that send me a Manect, and I know you're on Manect, and people can ask you any questions on Manect with your QR code is officially there.
For some of you watching this right now, you got like 100 questions.
Just send a Manek to Nick and say, hey, how would I handle this?
How would I do this?
How would I do that?
You don't need to email, DM, Institute.
People don't have time to get back to people.
But in Minuck, he'll get back to you.
But for me, there's a lot of guys that will Maneck me and they'll say, Pat, here's who I am.
This is what I've done.
Can you please tell the administration, I'm willing to help whatever is needed.
I'm in.
I'm willing to.
I did this.
This is my background.
Look at my resume.
Here's what I work.
I think there's a lot of people right now that want to be involved for being able to.
I wanted to.
You wanted to?
I still would, yeah.
So if you got the, if you got the nah, if you got the nah to want to do something, you'd participate.
100% I would.
Without question.
Yeah.
Without question.
how are your abilities today?
Are you still actively shooting your, your, okay.
Okay.
Got it.
So that's not like something weekly, you're still out there doing this.
Okay, anything else while we're talking about these things for, you know, while you're seeing all of these things going back and forth with the stories, what other angles have you looked at or your peers that you've spoken about that maybe the rest of the market isn't talking about?
Anything else?
Nothing that stands off the top of my head other than that it just it screams set up.
It screams set up or at the at the at the least extreme incompetence.
And I'm thankful that the who is in charge of the Secret Service?
She was a female.
Kim Cheetham?
Yeah, she's gone now, stepped down.
That's a good sign, but now we have to look at, you know, where do we go from here?
And like there's so many more questions that need to be answered and none of them really have been answered straightforward.
Like they give one answer and you have more questions that spring and spread off of that.
It just seems really deceitful to the American people and to Trump to not have a straightforward answer as to what happened.
How was there so many failures, catastrophic, just a cascade of failures from the top down?
It's hard to comprehend.
And at that level, like we were good at what we did and we'd never lost a client.
And if we were ever shot at, the client had no clue we were being shot at, especially when we're driving and stuff like that.
But once we were at venue, we've never had an incident ever.
What do you mean the client never knew you guys got shot at?
So there were times where a person shot at you, but you guys took care of that person trying to shoot you that wasn't even a concern.
Nobody even thought about it.
No one, nothing.
No.
Well, we were driving around in like four or five vehicles.
They would be in one suburban.
I was more times than not in the rear suburban, sometimes in the trunk of the vehicle with the machine gun, sometimes with the rifle.
And RNM4, the client had no clue what happened.
They would, it's over by the time it started.
If they were able to get a shot at it.
How are you communicating with each other?
How is the team communicating with each other?
All headsets.
So are you guys texting?
Are you guys doing any kind of a signal or WhatsApp or anything or no?
We could.
We could.
We had like little Nokia phones that had certain technology in it, but most of it was just over secure radio.
And there really wasn't much communication that we would, we were all, you know, trained to a standard.
We didn't have to ask questions like the Secret Service did when they were protecting Trump, such as like, where do we go now?
Or where do we go from here?
What are we doing?
Some of the questions that they were asking while bullets are flying and they were huddled over Donald Trump at the time.
They were asking, what are we doing?
Where are we going?
And that was really weird to me.
That would have never been asked.
He would have been off the X, meaning the danger zone where those shots were coming in at the podium.
He would have been off that within a second.
And they stayed on that stage for felt like an eternity.
It was over 20, 30 seconds at least.
And that's just, that was hard to comprehend why it took so long to get him off the X, the danger zone.
Do you think in a climate like this with access to everything that we have, we're going to find out if this was an inside job, if this was just a flawed, massive screw-up by the Secret Service and a local police department working together, do you think we'll get to the bottom of this?
Or there may be a possibility that it'll be a similar thing to JFK that we'll never know.
There we go.
I think we'll never know.
I think they have already gotten to the bottom of it.
It's just I don't think that we'll have the privilege of knowing what happened.
Because if it was really that bad and the Secret Service sucked that bad that day, then it gives away too much information that another potential shooter or enemy of the country, you know, it gives them way.
I mean, they don't really need to be told they saw it.
A 20-year-old kid with zero training, zero background was able to pull this off.
So they've already failed.
Why they're that bad or were that bad?
I don't think we'll ever know.
That goes into the top secret SCI level, that compartmentalized information.
We will never know.
This is one of those things that if a whistleblower was to come out at a time like this to share, like if there's ever been a time to do that, this would be a time where his life would be in danger or her life would be in danger.
Whoever it is.
Come on.
Yeah.
Okay.
Nick, about the book, Reaper the Board.
What can you tell us about the book?
Essentially, it's what we've been talking about and what's been happening over the course of the past two weeks, assassinations.
And after I left the military and did the autobiography deal, I wanted to push myself off to the side and create a fictional story, a fictional character that uses the brain that I have and I guess, you know, carries out, not I guess, but he carries out various assassinations within our government.
For this book, it was, I know we took out the head of the Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, and the vice president.
And they're all a part of a secretive organization.
I guess you can call it a conspiracy.
Depends on how far you want to dig down that rabbit hole.
But human trafficking, drug trafficking, the interconnections and the connections we have within our government and other foreign governments, how things are taken care of.
But it's all about assassinations.
I'm not going to say I love assassinations, but that's what I like to write about.
Makes sense.
It's your world.
It's what you've been in, your entire life.
So, Rob, let's make sure we put the link below.
Nick, as usual, it's always great speaking to you to hear your perspective of somebody that's in this world, not just somebody that is giving their opinion from the outside as, and I think this is what happened.
No, no, you've been in these types of settings to give the perspective, and I'm sure the audience appreciates the feedback you gave today.
Thanks for coming out.
Appreciate you, man.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Take care, everybody.
Bye-bye, bye-bye.
How great is it that at a time like this, when you have questions about politics, you can ask Candace Owens, Chris Cuomo, Tulsi Gabbard, all on Manek.
And if you've got questions about what happened here with the sniper, and I got questions about what happened with the Secret Service assassin.
I want to ask somebody that was a sniper before.
Now you can.
Nick Irving, 33 confirmed kills as a sniper, Army Ranger, is on Manect.
