Patrick Bet-David, Vincent Oshana, Tom Ellsworth, and Adam Sosnick cover Julian Assange's plea deal, RFK Jr. missing the debate stage, California schools prioritizing sex ed over reading, and Andrew Cuomo coming to Donald Trump's defense!
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00:28 - PBD opens the show with some terrible news - the death of Hooters!
05:47 - California will teach kids anything except how to read.
14:42 - Louisiana kicks off national fight with Ten Commandments mandate.
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43:05 - Biden wins debate coin toss, chooses right-side podium, giving Trump the last word.
53:03 - Why RFK Jr. didn't qualify for the first presidential debate?
1:02:54 - Andrew Cuomo says Trump civil fraud case ‘Should Have Never Been Brought’
1:08:24 - California reveals all job gains in 2023 were fake.
1:21:02 - Stephen A. Smith is the face of ESPN. How much is that worth?
1:35:16 - Do Americans drink too much? Alcohol is driving a debate in Washington.
1:45:37 - Julian Assange to plead guilty in exchange for release from prison.
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All right, episode 430.
I want to start it off with some devastating news.
It's typically not a way I like to start the podcast, but I want you to brace yourself.
I'm just going to get right into it instead of like dragging this out.
And none of the guys are aware I'm going to be doing this right off the bat, but I think it's appropriate for us to talk about this.
It's very, very important while we're going through all the different challenges that people are going through in business and in life.
Breaking news, Hooters has abruptly shuttered 40 locations.
Rob, it's not funny.
40 locations, Rob.
It's shut down.
Okay.
We got two complaints in HR already yesterday.
They thought it was fake news because they thought it was Onion or Babylon B.
It is true story.
It's Vinny's favorite lunch spot.
What are all those girls going to do?
You can no longer see Mary Ann, but it is what it is.
And at the same time, this is another news that really upset Vinny.
I don't know why Vinny was excited about this, but Diddy's Instagram posts and videos.
They're all been deleted.
That's two in a row.
All of them deleted.
What are you going to go through now?
So who knows?
Who knows?
Maybe he was going to Hooters too often and inviting them back to the party.
And then he's like, let's delete them because some of the girls were on.
I don't even know if there's any correlation.
I just thought we started off with that, guys, because I like to go straight to bad news and then let's go through stories.
Having said that, let's talk about some of the events that's going on.
So guess what Biden won recently?
A coin toss.
Pretty impressive, right?
To win a coin toss.
He wins the coin toss and chooses the right side of the podium, not the left side.
Okay, very confusing, but he's going to the right, folks, giving Trump the last word is what he's doing, which obviously there is a strategy behind it.
I think he's trying to, their team is thinking, let me start off by saying something to get under his skin like a multi-convicted fellow and et cetera, et cetera.
And then Trump's going to get pissed and react.
So that's like a reaction thing could be a good thing.
Who knows?
Trump says he's decided on the VP pick and they will be at the CNN debate.
GOP LAN for Democratic Convention bash Chicago as a mess.
Kathy Wood says she will vote for Trump because he wouldn't do the best.
He would do the best job for the economy.
Trump gets massive polls, boost after hush money trial conviction.
Billionaire Melinda French Gates endorses Biden in her first ever presidential endorsement.
Gen Z's pay more for housing and has more debt than millennials did 10 years ago.
They will likely impact the presidential race.
Couple business stories to go through.
Louisiana, actually, that's not the business story.
Which one was a business store that I had here?
I'm going to have it here, right?
Okay.
Target aims to expand its online marketplace with Shopify Partnership.
I already told you about Hooters.
California reveals all job gains in 2023 were fake.
Stephen A. Smith is the face of ESPN.
How much is that worth?
Wall Street Journal story.
We'll talk about that.
Do Americans drink too much alcohol?
Alcohol is driving a debate in Washington.
And there's another story here talking about sober curiosity rising, how Americans are redefining socializing in a drinking culture.
And then there's another challenge with faith in America.
One of the stories, Adam, I can't see the story here that I know you wanted me to go through.
Let me see which one that is.
Oh, there it is.
Louisiana kicks off.
National fight with Ten Commandments mandate.
And then Trump claims Christianity is under threat in the U.S. and pitched to evangelical voters.
New York City should be the next to ban mobile phones.
And then this article, I think we may even start off with this article.
California will teach kids anything.
California will teach kids anything kids can get except how to read.
California is willing to teach kids anything except how to read.
And it's problematic because it's probably a good idea to teach the kids how to read.
Chair of LGBTQ Democratic of Maryland Kotz soliciting minor Vinny, is that a video that we have?
There's a video.
Yes, but we can't really show any of the text because we'd get banned of what bad, of what it was.
So it's, it's unbelievable what he was saying to this supposed 14 year old sting operation.
Well, it's pretty wild that it's bad to show the public, but it's okay to text a 14 year old.
Of course, maybe this guy will talk about what he's up to.
And then uh, one last story which I just was looking at, judge Judy unloads on Alvin Bragg for trying Trump over nonsense instead of keeping criminals off the street.
There you have it.
Those are some of the stories that we got here, so let's get right into the.
By the way, Alex Jones, Core Trustee, plans to shut down his notorious conspiracy outlet, Infowars.
That article is written by CNN, which makes a lot of sense.
All right California, we'll come into you first because we love you so much.
California will teach kids anything except how to read.
This is a WALL Street Journal story to go to.
All right, let's find this story here.
Uh, here we go California, legislate.
The legislature, under pressure from teachers unions, recently killed a bill mandating the teaching of phonics, despite strong support from the PTA and NA CP.
Research since the 50s support phonics as the best method for teaching children how to read.
Instead, California schools have adopted pseudo-scientific theories about early literacy, leaving millions of children struggling to read.
California imposes expensive top-down mandates in other areas, such as a 746 page sex education framework and a mandated ethnic studies curriculum rooted in 1960s activism.
These curriculums aim to liberate students from oppressive forces like capitalism and patriarchy.
Again folks, this is a WALL Street Journal story.
The state's new mathematics framework initially included topics like whiteness and social justice and now promotes discovery learning in an effective teaching method.
The attacks and anyways, I can go on and on.
Tom your reaction to the story here.
Well, I know a little bit about this and this is really infuriating you.
We, we saw this coming uh, literally 20 years ago.
Uh, the Bizdock Babe is a teacher.
She started out at LA Unified.
Uh, she was a fifth grade teacher there, fully credentialed.
She was actually a campus Representative.
And so she would go downtown to LAUSD and the teachers union meetings and keep them moving, PBD, was the theme.
Keep them moving.
It's like, wait a minute, we want to make sure that they're progressing and they're being taught.
No, keep them moving.
Keep them moving.
Don't hold them back.
Just keep them moving grade to grade.
And there was a focus where teachers would push back at this and say, hey, look, you know, phonics and other tools are critical to help kids, especially kids that don't have enrichment at home or maybe coming from a lower academic home.
They need this stuff to get the core.
Because if you get teaching and basic math, second, third grade, you are putting them on a path where they can actually be on the learning trajectory that's correct.
However, if you drop that down and they're below grade level, like at third or fourth, you're putting a permanent cap on their economic achievement.
This is Marxist of keep us all in a mob in the middle.
And by the way, the state PTA, which is Parent-Teacher Association, and the NCAA, NCAAC, NAACP, National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, they're against this fighting it.
So the national organization that's been representing a lot of things, the needs and themes that are to help advance African Americans.
Tom, can I ask you a question?
You're against it.
I want you to give a devil's advocate argument, okay?
In our house, I play a game with the kids.
It's a debate game.
Vinny, maybe you've seen it.
I love it.
Yeah, we said the hotel.
Yeah, so I'll pick a topic to debate.
Is it better in life to be married and have families, or is it better in life as a man to be a playboy?
And then they pick one of the hands.
Whoever gets what's in my hand gets to choose which position they want to debate.
Okay.
In this situation, Tom, what is the benefit of like sell me on the idea of a 746 page sex education framework?
Sell it to me the way they would sell it.
Like, what's how do you sell that to kids about 746-page sex education and then in math using topics like whiteness and social justice to promote discovery?
Like, what is their pitch?
Well, I'll break it down for you.
I can't even defend the phonics thing because what they're basically saying is let kids learn naturally, let them learn, you know, through observational things, which is proven is the wrong way to teach reading.
So let's set that aside.
Let's just go to the 746-page sex manual and I'll try to sell it to you.
Patrick, we live in a diverse world, and this diverse world has a lot of different people in it.
And this manual ensures that if your kid is straight, your kid is bi, your kid is gay, that we are giving them a, what we believe to be a correct and healthy and ratifying and ratifying framework that validates their sense of self and how they express that safely.
We don't want them to get venereal disease.
We don't want them to get sick.
We want them to have safe sex.
And so they're going to do it anyway, Pat.
They're going to do it anyway.
This manual ensures that every child, regardless of what path they choose, and by the way, parents can oppress.
So you need to understand we see them more during the day than you do.
And so the eight hours a day, we see it.
You see them three, four hours a day and you're distracted.
We need this there so that every child, no child is left behind, and all of their sex education, regardless of who they are, is present in the curriculum.
That's how they're selling it.
Well, I'm not buying it, Tom.
Just want to let you know.
You cannot sell it to me.
The state PTA and the NAACP aren't buying it either.
I'm not open to it.
Adam, thoughts?
Well, I feel like we're, it's just like Groundhog Day every time that we talk about California, just something more ridiculous and ridiculous.
And I think they get a lot of the headlines because they're the biggest state and they have the largest GDP and the largest population from what I understand.
But they're not the only state that is actually this progressive and liberal.
Do you know what the most liberal state in the union is?
What do you guys think it is?
The most liberal state in the union?
Yes.
Oregon?
I don't know.
Which one is it?
What's your guess?
Because you're asking it that way, I would probably go like Massachusetts.
Yeah.
Vermont.
You're right.
Massachusetts is number one.
Hawaii, number two.
Rhode Island, ironically, number three.
This is according to Pew and world data.
Wow.
And then California, number four, and New York, number five.
So, yeah, if you find that one right there.
But of the top 10 cities, three are in California.
No other state has more than a city or two.
So when you're talking about California, because you guys are from California, it's important to point out that they're sort of in specific areas, not the whole state as a whole.
So obviously, San Francisco is the most liberal city in the country.
And then you have Oakland, which is right across the bay there.
And then obviously L.A.
But it's pervasive across the country.
And I was talking on Manect to a guy, Jamal, who's a teacher in Massachusetts.
And he's like, look, I'm not exactly a conservative.
I'm a black guy, but I'm not necessarily a liberal.
I stand up for what's right.
He's kind of going through it.
Shout out to this guy.
But he's a history teacher.
And he's basically saying, listen, my job's not easy in Massachusetts, being a black, you know, moderate, conservative type guy.
But this is coming across the country.
And there's a difference between being liberal and progressive.
I think a classic liberal is sort of in no man's land at this point.
And this progressive left, wokeism, AOC, Bernie Sanders left, Maxine Waters is overtaking the Democratic Party.
And we'll see if Joe Biden, if he can actually pull back from that or if he's just going to succumb to their ideology.
Palm Puerto texting me right now.
He's going crazy in the back.
He said, this is textbook, Marxism Created by a Brazilian communist, degenerate, called Paulo Friere.
And he said, in Pedagogy of the Oppressed, he expresses the maturing Marxist influence analysts of the political nature of education that clearly places literacy and critical education within the context of the struggle of the oppressed to go beyond capitalist modernization and toward a revolutionary disinformation.
It's making its way into American educational system, teaching kids how to read or do math is the last priority.
And he said, this is from this guy.
He said, his traditional pedagogy, the banking model of education, because it treats the student as an empty vessel to be filled with knowledge like a piggy bank.
And he argues that pedagogy should be instead treat the learner as a co-creator of knowledge.
It's Marxism what they're doing.
How are you going to teach them about sex and all that stuff and not about reading?
This is just California's killing.
The purpose of the sex manual is to under on the Marxist side is to undermine the family.
So the family is undermined because what happens if you have strong families with people that are educated and good in math?
Self-sufficiency, think for themselves, challenge the ideas of the government.
All of those, the Marxist theories and the Marxist structure wants to undermine, every one of them.
And it's working, though.
I mean, a dumb populist will be guided as to what I will tell you this.
This kind of to me goes off to the Louisiana kickoff national fight with Ten Commandments mandate, right?
Okay.
So Louisiana new law mandates, Ten Commandments, and public classrooms has sparked national controversy and legal challenges.
The ACLU and other groups argue it violates the First Amendment.
And Rachel Laser of Americans United for Separation of Church and State is stating it forces public school children of all religions to read and venerate of states preferred branded Christianity.
What do you prefer?
Which religion?
You want to put LGBTQ in there?
Because that's also your religion.
Governor Jeff Landry's supporters, like Matt Krauss of First Liberty Institute, defends the law, claiming it aligns with the original intent of our founding fathers and noting historical precedent.
Krauss asserted it'd be hard to argue that the Ten Commandments aren't a historical traditional part of the American educational system.
The controversy may influence national political races with former President Trump supporting the law, calling it the first major step in the revival of religion.
By the way, to me, can you pull up the Ten Commandments?
Rob, just pull up the Ten Commandments and see what part of the Ten Commandments is bad.
Forget about the religion.
Let's just say which part of these Ten Commandments are bad to teach our kids.
Can you zoom in, Rob?
All right, thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Okay, that could be offensive because to some, they want to have LGBTQ before him.
So I get why that would upset you.
Number two, thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images.
Okay, go to the next one, Rob.
Three, thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
So you're not able to say, God, you know what I'm saying?
Okay.
Four, remember the Sabbath day, keep it holy.
All right, you're trying to teach me discipline for me to do what I do on Sunday.
I'm okay with that.
Keep going to five.
Honor thy father and thy mother.
Oh, that is terrible because they would much rather have that be said, honor thy teacher and thy politician.
I get it.
That could upset you as well.
Go to number six, Rob.
Number six is thou shalt not kill.
Uh-oh, maybe they want to put something across the knot.
And at the end, maybe they put babies.
I don't know.
Maybe that's like something that you want to kind of put there.
And that's possibly something that offends you.
Thou shalt not kill.
Who knows?
Seven, thou shalt not commit adultery.
Okay, go to eight.
Thou shalt not steal.
Basic common sense, go to the next one.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
That's a big one because you're instigating.
You don't want to divide.
But God forbid, if we lose that, we can't divide people and pin them against each other.
Go to the next one.
10.
Thou shalt not covet.
Okay.
So which part of these things are bad?
By the way, did you guys see how the Copa America game opened up?
Did you see how the Copa America game opened up with this man on stage?
How he opened it up and what he said?
No?
Okay.
I want you to play this, Rob, if you have it.
By the way, this is on TV.
We're probably not going to be able to monetize this video after we share this video.
I could care less.
I think the world needs to see this.
Vinny, let me tell you what game this is so everybody knows.
It's Argentina playing.
Who's Argentina playing, Rob?
Is this Argentina Canada?
I think it is.
Yes, Argentina, Canada.
And he opens it up with this.
Watch.
Which one are you playing, Rob?
Which one are you playing?
Are you playing the one I sent you?
Are you playing?
This is the one that you sent me.
Okay, so do the one, find one that's in English on what he's saying.
See if there's one in English.
Okay, here's the one that I have.
This is the one in English.
God, you guys gotta see.
Oh, let me tell you, you're gonna sit there, and he's saying this in Spanish, but obviously translated in English.
Rob, if you can find the one I just sent you, I think this one that I sent you shows the subtitles.
Yeah, see if this one works.
Watch this, folks.
Watch this, folks.
Watch this.
Here we go.
Go ahead, play this.
...that they may have life and have it in all its fullness.
A full life consists of love.
No, Rob, go in the beginning so the people can hear the whole thing.
Go from the beginning.
Go.
Jesus said, I have come that they may have life and have it in all its fullness.
A full life consists of love for each other, forgiveness towards each other, and unity with each other.
This is possible when we focus on God, the source of life.
God, we ask your blessing over the tournament, the nations represented, the teams, players, and families.
May your peace, your protection be upon all.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Wow.
Are you kidding me?
Open with the principle.
Pause it right there.
That is so sick.
He opens it up with that.
Wow.
Okay.
He opens it up with that.
Now, imagine you're sitting here like, wait, we can't give that kind of credit to God.
We can't give that kind of credit to Jesus.
We can't go.
So the pendulum shifts so much that they forced so much of this ideology down people's throats that they're like, no, no, no, no.
Stop.
We're going to the values and principles that raise good communities.
People like him who have the courage to get up and do what he just did, you got to applaud him.
Adam, I think you want to say something about the Louisiana story.
Well, you know, this Louisiana story, it begs the question of how much do we actually believe in separation from church and state.
So, you know, conservatives typically believe in limited government.
Now, this seems to be a little bit of government overreach.
At the same time, we've talked about the decline in traditional values here in America, and it's slipping away.
Family, community, religion, patriotism, for sure.
And the only thing that's actually increased is the love of money, which is nothing wrong with money.
But how much should religion be a part of school?
To me, school, if there's one of those values that should be a priority, it should be patriotism.
Should the Ten Commandments be taught in school?
Maybe.
Should education be prioritized over indoctrination?
For sure.
But like I've said before and I've said again, let's just start with the Pledge of Allegiance.
I remember in kindergarten, all through elementary school, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
That shouldn't even be a question.
Like a pledge of the allegiance, like believe in America, love America.
There's people on the far left that actually hate America.
There's people on the far right.
Say what you want about these people.
They love America so much, they want it all themselves.
But it begs the question of how much religion should be in school, separation of church and state.
Now, I will say a lot of that is federal.
This is a whole state's rights issue.
But I would lean towards having God and religion in school than out of school and having morals and values taught to kids than not.
But to just say, you know, God's being infused into all your classes, I think is a little bit of a stretch.
Tom.
Well, look, either you're a nation of principles or you're not.
And if you take a look where principles have come over the course of history in governments everywhere, there's been a faith component to those principles.
And even if it's the absence of what you would call traditional religion and you have the Marxist principles of the fake elevation of the worker and the reliance on the state, that is the religion of Marxism.
And so if you have no principles, you have nothing.
If you have no principles, principles are like a ruler.
How do you measure anything against anything if you don't have a set of principles?
And this country was founded with Judeo-Christian principles that were woven into the founding documents.
And look at the Ten Commandments.
Four of those things are laws that are on the books in all 50 states.
Don't kill, don't steal, don't lie.
That's called perjury, right?
So you've got a set of principles that are there.
And I think what Louisiana is trying to say is, look, these are the principles we started with.
We're bringing them back because we think people need these principles so that we can be a well-governed, well-behaved, and dare I say, enabling society, meaning enabling the freedom to try, the freedom to fail, the freedom of speech, and everything that goes with it.
I think Louisiana's taking a strong step here.
And the detractors are going to say, oh, it's religious, but they're missing the point that it's principles and they're trying to sell you a set of their principles.
I mean, very, very, very well put, Tom.
But it's like, we talk about case studies all the time, right?
And Adam, you just nailed it.
They took out Pledge of Allegiance is gone.
They've taken out the Ten Commandments.
All of a sudden, if we go case studies, everything's been falling apart.
Everything, nobody cares about the country anymore.
Waving a white flag, you have people punching and hitting autistic kids that are just carrying a flag.
God has been completely taken out, and that's the case study.
Everything is going down the toilet.
And it's like, what else do you need for proof?
Okay, I do remember the Pledge of Allegiance.
I was happy as a kid saying it.
And by the way, Ten Commandments, people are making like they made you go down and bow down to the Bible.
No, these are just core principles that I think people need to go back to because America is declining.
And I think those are two of the main reasons that it's going down.
Yeah.
So to me, here's what it comes down to: okay, in here, between everybody in this building, okay, take me out.
I'm not in it.
If you had to have your kids go hang out with somebody for the weekend with them and their kids, who would you feel safe your kids hanging out with?
In the office?
You have all these options.
Who would you feel safe your kids hanging out with?
They're going to go to a to watch a Formula One race in Austria or Monaco.
Who would you feel comfortable?
They're going to go to a game tonight.
They're going to go to Palm Beach to go to Breakers to go swim for the afternoon tomorrow.
Who would you feel safe your kids hanging out with and you're not there?
Generically, I would probably like the majority of the people in this building, I trust.
Okay, I'm with you.
And I'm being dead serious.
And I'm with you.
I'm with you.
But I would probably trust my kids to be with Tom and I'm not around.
Okay.
If my kids are around you, I'm not worried about if my kids are around you, right?
You have to pick and choose who, and then you can go, who would you be comfortable your girl being around?
Yeah.
Who would you be comfortable your money being around?
For example, the other day, I'm doing a podcast, guys.
This is kind of weird.
I shoot a video and I leave for 12 hours and I'm eight hours, I'm somewhere else.
I left out of $5,000 of cash sitting right here, okay, right here.
Let's $5,000 of $100 bills right here.
I come back.
There's been 20 people in and out of this office.
And Vinny's like, hey, Pat, you know you left $5,000 of cash over there?
I'm like, oh, shit.
Okay, great.
Put in my pocket.
Don't even count on I move on, right?
Why?
Because we have people that we trust, right?
And you can go on and say, who do you trust your nephew around in your family, if you think about it?
Now, you know, it typically will come down to a couple of things with me.
This is what it's going to come down to.
The people I trust my kids around are people that live by certain values and principles that are seen and very clear that you've seen a trend for many, many years, or because they fear something or someone or a spirit.
And what do I mean by that?
I trust people that fear the Lord.
I just do.
Okay.
I trust people that fear karma.
Okay.
I just do.
It's a, if a person has such a high level of fear about karma, they're typically not going to do anything dumb.
If you have fear of God, you're typically going to sit there and be like, well, I got to kind of be careful about some of the stuff that I'm doing because God forbid if I lose his favor, right?
But if you don't, you're like, the hell with that.
I don't care about God.
He can't do nothing to me.
He forgives me every single time, anyways, because of grace and all this other stuff.
And I can keep doing it over and over and over again.
He's going to keep forgiving me.
That's the relationship I have.
Great.
So what is the benefit of me if you go at the end of the day and we talk about all these things with church and state and all these things that we talk about?
It comes down to what produces results.
We have London Roberts here the other day.
And, you know, she is Hunter Biden's baby mama, I think number four, Navy, beautiful kid, right?
We had a great conversation with London, and it wasn't what you would have expected.
While we're going through it, you know, everybody's like, Hunter Biden's the crackhead, Hunter Biden's the Honor Biden slept with his, you know, oldest brother's widow wife, and what kind of a piece of shit, Hunter Biden.
And we keep trashing Hunter Biden, right?
We keep trashing Hunter Biden.
And then suddenly she says, well, you know, I just, you know, the one thing that made me very uncomfortable is the picture of Joe standing right next to bedside.
I'm like, which picture are you talking about?
Rob, can you pull up that picture?
Tom, you ever seen this picture?
You told me about it.
I have not seen this.
So, Tom, you've seen most things.
You're a well-read guy, and you've never seen this picture.
You're about to see it.
Rob, you can click on it.
It's right there.
Second one.
This is Senator Joe Biden.
His wife and daughter are killed on December 18th.
Two and a half weeks later, he's being sworn at the hospital bedside with the kids laying there.
He's been sworn in to be a senator.
Okay.
It couldn't have waited a month or two more months after the mourning of your wife and your daughter.
Now, this isn't like it's war and we need somebody right now to be the president.
We need you to swear, you know, we need you to do that and go through.
This isn't that type of a situation.
LBJ in the airplane.
We had to swear in a president.
You can take your time.
No, no, no.
Let's get this done.
And let's bedside hospital, your wife.
And by the way, can you go to the day he got sworn in as a senator versus the day his kids died?
If you just go to those two things, his wife and his daughter died.
And so, Tom, that's Hunter and Bo are in the bed with broken bones.
Like one of them has a broken leg.
Yes.
If you go to the date, Rob, and you just type in the accident is December 1872.
Okay.
And so that's the date.
So just keep that date in mind, December 18, 1972.
And then go to Rob, the date of being sworn in as a senator.
But what date can you find?
Because I think it's January 8th, if I'm not mistaken.
So December 18, 1972.
And then two weeks later, he gets sworn in as a senator.
I don't know.
One could say even worse.
So January 5th.
So that's exactly two weeks later, like two weeks and two days later, three days later.
You didn't want to mourn another, like starting, but I'm just warning.
It's gaslighting.
What's gaslighting?
A small chapel at the Delaware division of the Wilmington Medical Center.
No, no, that's by the bedside.
The kids are in the picture.
Correct.
This is the Wikipedia that they are whitewashing.
But you know what happens then?
Then you fast forward and you see what the final product of it is.
What is the final product?
Of the sun.
So at the end of the day, go to Israel.
Does Israel teach Judaism in church in school?
Slightly, yes.
It's not mandated, but there is a large percentage of it.
There is separation of church and state, and there is a large contingency.
Like in Jerusalem, it's highly religious.
In Tel Aviv, it's Tel Aviv is like LA, San Francisco.
Tel Aviv is like Miami and New York in the Middle East.
Right.
Makes sense.
But still, at the same time, they're still selling certain set of values and principles.
The way you judge a family, the way you judge a country, the way you judge a company, the way you judge anything is by the products they produce.
If they're producing good products, don't talk about faith.
If they're producing bad products, and we're seeing what's going on in society today, you ever see those videos that show you kids in high school in the 80s and the kids in high school today?
You're like, what the hell happened in 40-something years?
So it's simply on what produces products and what doesn't produce good products.
That's how you got to judge it.
Can I add one thing?
Of course, talking about products.
You know, we started off with the guy at the, was it a couple of America?
What was the?
Yeah, can you just play this clip?
Let me.
Let me just, let me just play it.
Rob, go back a little bit and just play this clip and then we'll go to the Copa America.
I can't play, just so you know, I can't play it with music.
Oh, shit.
It has music, but I think it is good.
Play this clip.
So watch it.
Watch this.
This is 80s.
Right?
Wow.
Dude, that's me.
That's my.
This is our years, huh?
High school in the 90s.
Yep.
You graduated in 96.
No chemtrails, Rob.
You notice that?
Look at this.
That's the gangster.
Look at that.
Tank tops.
That is a video camera.
Yeah.
Adam, go ahead.
You were going to say something.
Those are the good old days, man.
You lived in the moment.
You weren't.
Phone.
Yeah, phone, social anxiety, depression.
You were in the moment.
There was nothing outside that it is in real life.
But the Copa America, the guy, you know, in the Pledge of Allegiance, it's one nation under God.
And God, whether you're Jewish, whether you're Christian, Catholic, whether you're Muslim, you believe in a higher power, monotheism.
I think where you get into maybe people being offended is if you say Muhammad or if you say Jesus, if you say Moses, and then you sort of cling to that who your prophet is.
I think if you say God, I don't think too many people should be offended unless you're an atheist.
But you talk about having accountability.
But if you look at which countries and which products, which countries have the highest percentage of Christians, I'll just read stats for you.
You let me know the product.
You let me know what they stand for.
So the Vatican is obviously 100% Catholic, Christian.
We know that.
But the most Christian countries in the world, Romania, which we were for the Tate interview, 98% Christian.
Armenia, 97% Christian.
Haiti, that's a country that it's in a major state of flux right now, 96%.
If you go to, obviously, there's only one Jewish country in the world, Israel.
But if you go to the highest percentage of Muslim countries, you'd be the judge of how these countries are doing.
Somalia, 99%, country in shambles.
Afghanistan, 99% country in shambles.
Iran, where you're from, theocratic regime, 99%.
Yemen, 99%.
So at this point, one thing that I cannot, my enemy is extremism, any sort of absolute extremism where you're not able to tolerate others.
I think Christians are doing a better job of being a little more tolerant.
You talk about Christians are sometimes too tolerant.
The problem that in some of these countries, now there's failed Muslim and Arab countries, the ones I named, and there's one that are completely excelling right now.
UAE, Saudi is making a major push, Kuwait.
But you talked about the product.
Some of the products that the Muslim world is producing is a little too extreme.
And by the way, you know, To say something on this topic before we leave, and this is going to upset a few people, but it's where I stand and what I believe, is I think Muslims and Jews have a lot in common.
Both of them, you're at risk if you criticize them.
One of them could be career-ending.
The other one could be life-threatening.
But either way, something could end if you criticize either party.
Mar Mari goes up there, Bishop Mar Mari says what he says, and he gets stabbed in his eye and he loses his eye permanently, okay?
Just because he, in his own gentle way, you know, talked about the profit of Muslims versus the prophet of Christians, right?
And there is risk.
You know, but one may say that if you're also too critical of the Jewish community, your career could be done.
You know, yesterday I sat down with Ice Cube and had a conversation with Ice Cube.
It was myself and Rob.
And it was a great conversation.
But you can also tell that, you know, the position he took a year ago when he's like, I'm going to get on, you know, talk across and I'm going to get on this.
I'm going to get on this.
I'm going to get on that.
His position has changed.
And one of the things he said, Rob, do you remember that line?
Mind your own business and you'll live longer.
That was not Ice Cube's position a year ago.
What happened in the last year?
I don't know.
Was he too vocal?
Did he get out there and to say too many things?
Who's the entertainment industry reigned by?
So, you know, to me, this is the one thing about Christians that you got to give them.
Last night we're at the Florida Panthers game with, what do you call it?
The Edmonton Oilers, Go Florida.
They won.
It was a ridiculous game.
Dylan was hating life because of how loud the place was.
He stood like this the entire time.
Yes or no, Tom.
Absolutely.
He had his fingers in his ears with tissue just so he can't hear anything because he needed, what do you call it?
And I'm leaving last night, and these four Jews pull me aside.
And two of them live in Boca, Miami, two of them live in New York.
And I'm having this conversation with them.
They're like, well, you know, I like the conversations you guys have.
It was a very, very good conversation on what we're talking about.
But to me, you know, the part about Christians, Christians, not all, I'm not sitting here blanket statement just because you're a Christian.
Generally, they see the good in others.
They generally see the good in others.
Generally, as a faith, it's seeing good in others.
And I think I like the fact that they're coming out here and just being a little bit more assertive about their views and principles.
They've produced a great product.
You can say whatever you want.
The world comes to America, and this country was founded on Judeo-Christian values and principles.
Most of the Constitution, the commandments were written purely right out of the Bible.
And go to the White House, go to the, what do you call it, not Smithsonian, but what's the other building that you go to Capitol and you see all these things written in their scripture.
I think they did pretty good.
And, you know, as a country that started off tiny, small, nobody knew, to become the most powerful, greatest country in the world.
And what did the fall come?
Oh, when we stopped praying and we stopped being proud and we stopped talking Pledge of Allegiance and we stopped doing some of that stuff.
We paid a big price for that over the years.
I'm going to go to the last topic, but I'll give you the final thoughts, 30 seconds.
Well, I think you are right.
I think, well, obviously Judaism was the first monotheistic religion and then Christianity and then Islam.
So there's, I think, a lot of uniform rate in all three religions.
But I will say that there's some validity to what you're saying is that in the Jewish faith, you know, there's things that they will do to maybe shut you up, as well as in the Muslim faith.
Now, the difference is in the Muslim faith, a lot of it is biblical.
It is literally, you cannot criticize Muhammad.
We've seen what's happened in the Charlie Hebdo attacks.
We've seen this.
They will kill you.
There's 2 billion Muslims.
What's 1% of 2 billion if they're radical?
20 million people?
What's my math on that?
So, in the Quran, respect to the moderates and the synergists out there.
They believe in jihad.
They believe in the caliphate.
They believe in paying the jizya, which is a tax if you're not Muslim.
They believe in Sharia law.
And if you don't succumb to their beliefs, they will kill you.
Now, to my fellow Jewish friends, it's not biblical.
You know, who started this thing?
Moses and the Ten Commandments.
Let's just go back to that.
So, biblically, they've set the tone for how to interact with others.
Honor the mother and father.
Take the Lord in vain.
Do not steal, do not covet, everything with that.
But I think a lot of things have changed in Judaism since the Holocaust.
A lot of it is socioeconomic.
The number one phrase in Judaism is never again.
So there's a lot of paranoid, sensitive Jews out there when they see these protests and when they see this stuff, they're automatically quick to say anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism.
And my fear to my fellow Jewish friends is a lot of it can be the little boy that cried wolf.
And you have to be careful with allegations.
Now, I'd rather be silenced than killed, but I think either one is problematic.
Yeah, and I'm for neither.
You know, I'm for neither.
I'm for neither one of those.
I want to be able to pose my argument in a respectful way.
And you can disagree with it, tear it apart, do your thing, but I'm not for my certain people's lives being at risk, and I'm not for certain people's career being at risk if they agree or disagree with you.
So that step.
And by the way, keep this in mind.
This is not a blanket statement to everybody.
It's a very important disclaimer to always put out there.
There is no such thing as a blanket statement to everybody across the board.
This is a generalization, but it's what you see happening on those two sides.
Anyways, Kank, this is why I love America.
I'm America first.
My team, my jersey is America.
That's what I wear.
Yesterday, when I went to the game, Florida Panthers against the Edmonton Oilers, you know what hat I was wearing?
I was wearing a valetment hat.
You know how many valuers I saw yesterday?
I couldn't even tell you.
Left and right, we were having conversations with everybody because I'm convinced future looks bright.
And 4th of July is around the corner.
We told you guys we had a complete new merch drop, but I'm going to show if you're looking at the Rob, can you actually go to the store so I can tell them what's sold out and what's come, what's a few items are still left or not.
If you just go to vtmerch.com and go to the 4th of July right there, if you can click click on that.
Okay, so let's go through it.
The USA hat is officially sold out.
There's no more, that went in no time.
The one to the left of value taiman, there's 37 of those to the left of that right there.
There's 14 of the one, the trucker one, whatever you want to call that, right there.
There's a few shirts left.
There's a few sweaters left as well.
And then if you go on to homepage, there's a blowout sale of 50% that we're running for 4th of July.
But here's what you got to keep in mind.
If you stay at the top, Rob, the slides will switch.
Here's what we're doing.
This blowout sale of 50%, it's get it now before things are going to be fully sold out on 4th of July because it's still there.
So my suggestion: go to vtmerch.com, place your order, have the gear ready for 4th of July, then tag us, hashtag VT merch.
I want to start showing our folks around the world value tainers wearing VT gear with VT hats.
Future looks bright.
And I want everybody to start finding each other.
This contest we ran with the Manek people that were in town Friday, and we had dinner at Casa D'Angelo and we had cigars till midnight.
It was so awesome talking to other value tainers who also love America.
So blowout sale, VT merch.
Here's the QR code.
Go to it.
50% off.
This is a 4th of July sale.
Again, all this stuff is going to sell out one by one by one.
I'm just telling you in advance because you're going to see this on 4th of July.
That's the QR code.
Or go to vtmerch.com, get the gear, sport the gear, celebrate 4th of July, celebrate the greatest country in the world, and have the pride when you go around to other people because that's what value tainers do.
We're going to put the link below as well.
But there's also the QR code.
Now, let's go to the next story.
All right.
Next story we got is the debate being around the corner.
Okay.
And President Biden wins the debate coin toss, chooses the right side of the podium, giving Trump the last word is what he's given.
Why he did that?
Who knows?
There could be many reasons.
Maybe it's because he wants to rattle Trump to get him upset.
So he starts off with the first comment, then Trump gets upset.
And the more upset Trump gets, the better of a look it is for him.
But President Joe Widen, Joe Biden, won the CNN pre-debate coin toss on Thursday.
I don't even know how they do that, by the way.
Given his camp the choice between selecting his podium position and choosing the order for closing statements in next week's debate with Biden's opening statement to reserve the stage right side of the podium.
Former Trump, President Trump selected to speak last, giving him the final word at the event, the coin toss, in which Biden had selected Tails, went to the incumbent during the June 27 debate.
And the debate has been conducted in strict adherence to several controversial rules predetermined by CNN, agreed to by both candidates.
Rob, if you can play that clip of somebody from the Trump camp going on MSM CNN and she said something about Jake Tapper, bone.
They already showed what they may be doing when they mute them, but let me read some of these guidelines.
This is what they both agreed to: only two commercial breaks during the 90-minute debate.
Campaign staff will not be able to interact with their candidate during the break.
No opening statements, two-minute answer shot clock, one minute for rebuttals.
Mics will be muted just like they were muted in the scene you're about to see when it is not a candidate's turn to speak.
Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.
Well, first of all, it's to take someone five minutes to Google Jake Tapper, Donald Trump, to see that Jake Tapper has interviewed.
Ma'am, I'm going to stop.
I'm stating to attack my colleagues.
I would like to talk about Donald Trump, who you work for.
Yes.
If you are here to speak on his behalf, I want you to have this conversation.
I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past.
Now, after guys, we're going to come back to the first one.
Caroline, thank you very much for your time.
You are welcome to come back.
Well, first of all, it's there.
You go.
So that's kind of what it's going to look like when they decide to mute President Trump.
But what are they worried about?
So you can't come there and be critical.
How many people, by you doing that, actually you think went online and typed in Jake Tapper and Trump?
How many people think searched that?
No, it's a trigger.
Yeah.
Well, there's all kinds.
I would love to see the Google trend on that.
Yeah.
And I said, Rob, that bottom one, PBD, that one right there, the end wokeness.
By the way, this guy, I don't, great question.
I don't know.
It has to be a technical move.
I think you mentioned it.
They didn't think Trump was going to agree to do this.
No, it's going to be a shit show.
I guarantee.
Well, if Joe Biden's not drugged up out of his mind to make him last this two hour and a half, it's going to be nuts.
But why would you agree to have a guy?
Jake Tapper is the most Trump, one of the most Trump-hating guys on the planet.
I know they always shift, and people always go like Bill Maher.
Oh, he said something nice.
He's coming around.
They've never come around.
Can we play this, PBD?
This is Jake Tapper, just, you know, over the years.
The dehumanizing rhetoric of Adolf Hitler is once again alive and well on a national political stage.
Time, of course, in the United States, Donald Trump, a couple times over the weekend uh referred to uh immigrants from South America, Africa and Asia.
He did not mention Europe, South America, Africa and Asia as quote.
Poisoning the blood of our country, which it's not hyperbole.
That does very directly echo uh Adolf Hitler's uh language um, before World War Ii.
Open up a copy of Hitler's Mein Kampf.
You would find the Nazi leader describing the mixing of Non-Germans with Germans as poisoning.
There's really no other way to say it.
Donald Trump's language mirrors this directly.
Hitler.
It's Trump derangement syndrome.
They didn't think he was going to take the debate.
He's saying, I'll take it no matter what.
And I'll tell you why strategically it's going to work out.
Every time they try to use these techniques and judicial activism to take out his legs, to knock him down, what happens?
The dust clears and the polls move.
This is not going to go well for them.
If a fair-minded person is sitting there, a moderate watching, and sees manipulation, him being shut down or treated unfairly, then the debate's over.
It doesn't matter what you analyze.
And you know what?
You got to find out which Biden's going to show up.
The drugged up one from the State of the Union, you know, the CIA operative wearing a mask or whatever, whatever you want to believe about that.
Yeah.
You know, or what is it?
But when they try to go after him, it doesn't go well.
It helps him.
The whole coin toss thing, whatever's going on here, it's reminiscent of how basically politics has turned into sport and entertainment.
You know, there's a term out there.
You'll probably appreciate this, PBD.
It's called polytainment.
It's where politics and entertainment are infused.
You could probably find that, Rob.
But, you know, they say that DC is Hollywood for ugly people.
And I think it's very true.
Now, nobody is better at getting eyeballs in the attention economy as Donald J. Trump.
He's must-CTV.
We all know it.
It's going to be a debate versus Trump and Biden.
We'll see what happens there.
But we're going to see what happens.
Now, in the spirit of sport, where they're talking about there's no opening statements.
There's a two-minute answer shot clock.
Mics will be muted.
There's a coin toss.
I mean, this is sport at this point.
For me, the debate is who has the most to gain and who has the most to lose.
Because we can talk about all, you know, the tappers, the this, the that.
Trump agreed to do it on CNN.
Now, is Jake Tapper known to be fair to Trump?
Not as much as certain journalists and more than others.
Actually, he's one of the more trusted journalists on CNN.
You know, insert jokes.
There's a bar by my ankle.
Well, I mean, it just shows how polarized you're right there.
You say, tell, you know, say someone on CNN, you know, you get triggered.
You say someone, a Hannity or a Laura Ingram to a liberal, they get triggered.
But they got to do it somewhere.
And I would love to see a time and place where a liberal or a Fox and a conservative, they could all do it together to keep it fair.
Even Chris Wallace, who was a Fox guy, now a CNN guy, he was very unfair to Trump.
But who has the most and gains most to lose?
I would argue that if Biden just looks alive, then he'll do well.
Now, Trump, a showman, known for his rhetoric, known for being a storyteller, also known for being an exaggerator.
The thing that he would have to do in order to come out winning is don't have self-enforced errors.
Don't do anything stupid.
Don't fall into Biden's game when he calls him a criminal.
Stay cool under pressure.
What's a crimical?
What's a criminal?
Criminal is just sort of a criminal with chemical combined on chemicals.
But Adam, you said criminal on chemicals.
If he comes out and he just, and if he doesn't, if he just looks normal, I think that's setting the bar low, like we said last time with the Save the Union.
This is a whole different ballgame because Trump is going to be there.
The State of the Union was, you know, teleprompters, reading.
The drugs kind of started to wear off at the end.
But I mean, this is a different ballgame.
The fact that Trump is going to be there because everything he's going to say is in every, and you guys know what's going to happen, right?
What are the three things that he's going to talk about?
Convicted felon, right?
January 6th insurrection.
What else?
Rapist.
Rape.
COVID.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Roevie Wade.
Trump is going to be a lot of people.
I will tell you.
I will tell you.
Rovi Wade, Jan 6.
If I had to choose, like if you had to choose who you like at CNN, who would you choose?
Absolutely nobody.
You have to pick one person.
Like, for example, if you have a choice to say Fox is going to moderate one of the debates, CNN is going to moderate one of the debates.
Who are you having as a moderator from CNN?
You have to choose somebody.
I think Jake's the guy.
Jake's the best guy.
But by the way, I'm telling you, Jake's the guy.
Now, Jake can't stand Trump to save his life.
Well, let's go through it.
Better than Acosta.
What the worst.
And Dana Bash is, is Dana's going to be the one, the other one with Jake?
I see that.
And Dana can't stand Trump, but I think it's better than anybody else on that list.
Go a little lower.
Wolf couldn't control his emotions.
He would cook it in the side.
He'd have to go to the bathroom.
He would be very uncomfortable.
Caitlin Collins is a, you know, she's already had her chance, so they've already put her on there before with Trump and Trump destroyed her.
I think Anderson Cooper would have done good.
You know, it's between him and Jake.
Who else do you have?
So Jake's really the guy.
You got to choose.
You got John King on the Wouldn't be Van Jones.
Pull up Fox.
See who do you think would be fair to Biden?
To do what?
To have Fox somebody to moderate?
I'm just saying, like, either way, you cut it.
CNN is going to skip more towards Biden and Fox.
And I'm totally okay with that.
And by the way, guess what?
Handed is going to be fair to Biden.
Guess what?
None of it will matter.
I don't care who you put in there.
Trump's going to win the audience.
I don't care who you put in there.
Meaning the social.
You know, the people that are going to be reacting.
Trump's going to win the audience over.
He's already winning the audience over.
The guy is already campaigning all over the place.
It's not even going to be a close call between these two guys on what's going to be happening.
But at the same time, RFK is not a part of it.
RFK is not a part of it.
I think that's bullshit.
So tell me your position with RFK not being a part of it.
I mean, there's a certain threshold I think that the candidate has to reach.
I think it's 15%.
He's teetering on 10 to 12.
I don't know what the number is exactly, but don't get it twisted.
RFK is the most viable third-party candidate we've had since 1992 with Ross Perot.
He single-handedly is going to sway this election.
Now, the conversation is, is he taking more from Trump?
Is he taking more from Biden?
But I think it's absolute bullshit that you don't have a guy like RFK on stage to hold these two presidents accountable.
And anyone that doesn't agree with that is probably just a homo.
Well, you just said about the percentage.
If he doesn't qualify, it's not bullshit.
You just didn't make it.
I mean, I feel what, but Adam, I feel what you're saying.
If he was qualified and then they were like, no, you can't go on.
That's a deal.
There it is.
They need to have four national polls at 15%.
Find out where the national polls are with RFK.
This is so predictable.
This is so predictable to me.
CNN, this is the death rattle of a dying network.
CNN, this is the last gas for CNN.
They're even having to try and bully the other networks to present the CNN logo.
All the people that are going to be, all the networks are going to be rebroadcasting it.
This is so predictable to me.
They want to prop up Biden.
He's their candidate.
They want to help him the best they can, and this is what's coming out to do it.
But what they can't fight is what the American people can see with their own fair eyes.
And Trump is going to win the day with this, and you are going to see it.
And as they try to treat him unfairly, you're going to see more Americans doing the same thing they did in Georgia.
They said, Look at Georgia.
Georgia's not even a swing state right now.
No, it's Georgia's done.
Yeah.
The Georgia is bright red outside of a little blue dot, you know, in the middle of Atlanta, which is Fannie Willis's ass, right?
You see, you can see from space.
You know, this is it.
You can just see it.
You know, come on.
No, no, by the way, we don't know.
American people are swinging.
But guys, let's be honest with each other.
I don't trust anything the left.
I don't trust anything CNN or any of these people do.
All right.
We don't know what we're going to get.
Yo, if they don't drug up Biden or have a stand-in mask or whatever, and they just let him go out there raw for 90 minutes with those two breaks and they want him to fail, that's going to be their perfect ploy for everybody to go, oh God, guys, look at how old and senile and dementia he is.
Let's move on.
We can't, guys, you saw it in what he is.
Now we have to move on.
Yeah, I was talking about CNN.
Now you're talking about the strategy inside the DNC, which I happen to agree with.
Yeah.
They say, look, if our guy fumbles and everything, and it's saying, just spray the WD-40 on the stairs.
Let's get it over with.
You know, and let's go put it in the hot spot.
Did you guys see what Trump had to say about RFK on the plane, the little speech he gave?
No.
It's interesting because nobody can give you credit, but also diss you in back-to-back sentences better than Trump.
Yeah.
I don't know, Rob, you have that.
He's like, you know, they're not going to have RFK on the stage.
People say he's very liberal.
Love to have him.
Great guy.
Super lefty.
Piece of shit.
But, you know, he's, they want, I would love to have him on stage, but he didn't qualify.
Loser, but I'd love to see him.
Yeah.
It's he's he's he's America true and true.
He's like America.
We bomb the shit out of you.
Then we like comfort you.
We feed you.
We're nice.
Yeah, that's how we roll.
He's America.
You're sure you find it on Twitter.
No, it's on his plane.
I'll say a couple things about this and we'll move on with RFK.
I would have liked to have seen RFK on there.
Is that what?
Yeah, this is the video where he's...
How long ago is this?
This is two days ago, yesterday?
June 25th was posted this morning.
Go ahead and play this clip.
Go ahead and play this clip.
I know that RFK Jr. wants to try and get onto the stage on Thursday.
And I'd love to have him, frankly, because I don't think he's much of a debater.
He's got some very deliberate, radical left ideas.
But I would love to have him, but you have to get certain numbers.
That was the criteria.
And he's way below those numbers.
He's not coming close.
So I hope to see him up there someday.
But it looks to me like he's not going to qualify on many fronts.
But he'll be there.
And, you know, they say he hurts Biden more than he hurts me.
I don't know if that's true or not, but they say he hurts Biden because he's a serious left person.
And you know what?
If he is, that's good.
I don't really care.
I'm going to Cleveland.
It looks like we're doing great in Ohio.
We're doing great in just about every state we're in.
Every broad level that's coming in is looking good.
We're leading just about every call on a national basis, also on a swing state basis.
And I look forward to Thursday night.
It'll be great.
And again, I saw RFK Jr.
Nice guy.
I hope he can debate because I really think it would be a good thing to have him up there.
I'd love to have him up there.
But you have to do better than six or seven points, like by about triple.
And maybe someday he'll be there, but I sort of doubt it.
Thank you.
Every other sentence is great guy.
I love the guy shit.
By the way, here's the thing.
Do you think Trump is going to pursue the COVID investigation?
Do you think Trump's going to pursue Fauci?
Do you think Trump's going to go after China about Wuhan Lab?
Do you think he's going to do that?
Do you think Biden's going to do that?
We know for a fact Biden's never going to do that.
Ever.
Okay.
But what are the chances that that's going to be one of Trump's five things he's going to do?
I'm telling you right now, PBD, and you guys know I 100% support this guy.
If he doesn't do the majority of things that you're saying, if he doesn't release, which he said recently, again, he's going to release the CIA documents with the JFK because we need to find out.
That's not what I'm asking, though.
That's not what I'm asking.
I'm asking specifically about COVID, what China did, Wuhan Lab, the leak, Fauci, the studies of all these vaccines, that they pretty much got immunity.
I want to know what's the likelihood that that's on his top five list.
I don't think it's up there.
Okay.
I think it's on the top five list.
Now, he's going to have to get a lot of backlash on Operation Warp Speed, which happened while he was still president.
That's right.
So there's a little bit of balance.
He's going to have to walk a tightrope on COVID, but I think COVID will be on the list.
I don't think it's a top five list.
I don't think it's a top five list, Tom.
And I think it's in RFK's top three list.
I think as an environmental lawyer, what RFK's got is the following thing.
He has got a few things that you can't teach.
It's called your uncle was assassinated and your father was assassinated.
And the day after your father was assassinated, you became an addict for 14 years and then you cleaned up and you became the top environmental lawyer in America.
You fought.
And then you're the only person from the left that called out Fauci from the left that called out Biden from the left that his own political party ousted him.
He became an independent and he's in the middle and he doesn't necessarily have bad things to say about Trump, doesn't have bad things to say about, you know, Biden.
He's a guy that is a very, very important piece of the puzzle.
And for me, look, if the market speaks and the market says this is the percentage you're getting and there's no interest, I don't know how much of this had to do, like what data I would really want to know, Tom, if this was my world and I'm in the political space and I do this for a living 24-7 and we do consulting for politicians, I would pull up the data and see what happened with support on the back end and his name being searched on Google the day after he announced the VP candidate, the VP nominee for him.
And then I would look at and say, how many searches did she get?
How many support did he get?
Did support go up?
Did money go up?
Did percentage go up?
And any of that stuff I would look at to see if that was an event or not?
One can study and say, well, the day we announced XYZ, that's what hurt the company.
The day we brought that talent, the way we bring it, there's plenty of ways to study this.
That's a different story.
That's strategically the team and he as leaders can be criticized for, hey, maybe you could have chosen somebody else.
And, you know, maybe his number one option was Tulsi, but Tulsi didn't want to be VP for him.
Tulsi wanted to be VP for Trump.
Who knows?
A lot of those things that are happening behind closed doors.
But no one can dispute the fact that this guy is a guy that you're going to want on your team if you're planning on going after China, NIH, CDC, Fauci.
There is not a single person I would trust more than him to go after.
Do you know why?
Because he's a true believer.
It's the only thing.
In that specific area, when I asked him about puberty blockers, I don't know enough.
We're not on the same page.
When I asked him about all these other things, but I think RFK still got a place.
And I think there's still a percentage of Americans that are sitting there saying, we need someone to do something with this.
I don't know what that means with Trump and RFK having a meeting and having a conversation.
I don't even know if either one of them would be open to that.
But if there's one thing you know about Trump, Trump follows the old playbook from Art of War, man.
You know, when the guy is down, don't even give the guy second chance to live.
Kill him on the spot.
Then, after he's killed, then befriend him.
That's Trump's strategy of how he is and how he competes.
Cold-blooded is what he is.
Cold-blooded.
And then if you realize I'm the alpha, we'll be okay.
That doesn't work with everybody, but it works with most people that he comes across.
Anyways, all right, let's go to the next door here with this.
We'll see what happened there.
Andrew Cuomo, did you guys see what Andrew Cuomo said to Bill Maher?
Rob, you want to play that clip with Andrew Cuomo and Bill Maher?
They're going back and forth.
And Andrew Cuomo talks about one of the biggest mistakes they made in New York with the hush money.
Watch this here.
Go for it.
The trial in New York, the one he got convicted for, was the greatest fundraising bonanza ever.
He is now, he was lagging behind Biden, and now he's pulled quite a bit ahead.
That trial was the greatest reason people had to send their checks for $5, $10, $25, whatever dollars to Donald Trump.
So I was always with you on the one in New York, the hush money trial.
I don't think they should have brought that one.
It was just always going to look like a sex case, and people were always just going to look at it that way.
So anyway.
That case, the Attorney General's case in New York, frankly, should have never been brought.
And if his name was not Donald Trump, and if he wasn't running for president on the former AG in New York, I'm telling you, that case would have never been brought.
And that's what is offensive to people.
And it should be, because if there's anything left, it's belief in the justice system.
And by the way, that is why I don't believe the convicted felon think every time Biden says on June 27th is going to work.
I actually think it's going to backfire on them.
I'm telling you, I want Biden to see all that stuff.
I want Biden to say, look at you, bankruptcy this, convicted felon this, convicted felon that.
I want him to say that.
You know how much ammunition Trump has to come back to that?
Do you know if there's anybody you want to debate that you have public dirt on that you can go up against?
There isn't anybody easier to go up against ever, maybe, than Joe Biden.
Maybe there's only one other person ahead of him.
Maybe only one other person.
That's Hillary Clinton.
Oh, yeah, big time.
Because Hillary Clinton, not only did you have dirt on her, but you had dirt on him.
What can he say about Joe Biden?
Oh, my God, so much.
Joe?
What?
About Joe Biden?
Jill.
Oh, Jill, but no real doctor.
But no, no, but you don't have.
Yeah, yeah.
Because Hillary, you could go.
Hillary, you could go Bill.
Big time.
Would Joe, it's own.
So I would put the GOAT of easy to debate as Hillary Clinton.
Big time.
But I would put Joe Biden right behind Hillary Clinton.
I think he's got so much dirt to go up against.
Biden is going to bring up the criminal side of things, and Trump is going to be like, well, look at your son, Hunter.
I'm looking forward.
Crackhead, that's going to happen.
Biden right now is taking a week off to prepare for the debate.
It's almost like he's Rocky training in the snow to fight Yvonne Drago, just doing like the workouts, getting it in, running, falling off bikes, doing this, doing what he do best.
But Biden is taking an entire week to prepare for Trump.
How much do you think Trump is preparing for Biden?
You know, on this episode, who has more credibility in this specific instance than Andrew Cromo, the former governor and former Attorney General of New York, basically saying, yeah, I think it's BS that they brought this case against Trump.
It's interesting here.
If you have in 2020, potential leading candidate to run for president in 2024, Cuomo, we know what happened with him.
Sort of defending Trump.
And then you have Adam Kinzinger, Republican, part of the Never Trump camp, slamming Trump every case he gets.
It's sort of indicative of where politics is these days.
We have Republicans slamming Trump a rhino, you know, Republican in name on only, and a former Democratic governor who was ousted by the left party that's sort of defending Trump.
Politics is a weird game at this point.
Tom.
Yeah, I have a lot of respect for Andrew Cuomo in that interview.
A lot of respect.
He pointed out that he was a former AG.
So he wasn't just speculating.
This man had sat in the chair.
He was the AG.
And he said, look, if his name wasn't Donald Trump and he wasn't running for office, and therefore this was an opposition tactic, this case wouldn't have been brought and never should have been brought.
And I got a lot of respect for him for just laying it very clear on the line, even though it was Bill Maher that spoke up and said, hey, you know, we've talked or we've communicated in some form.
We both felt this way.
It was a fundraising bonanza.
You notice Cuomo didn't talk about that.
Cuomo went straight to, man, I was AG.
This shouldn't have been brought.
Yeah.
And by the way, that is why the left destroyed him, because he would have been the 2020 presidential nominee ahead of Biden.
But there's no way that we're going to let this guy go.
He would have had legs to be potentially the president of the United States of America.
This guy could have been the president.
But Schumer, Pelosi, Biden, Hillary hated this guy because he couldn't be controlled.
Now, don't get me wrong.
I'm not sitting here telling you he's this libertarian center-right conservative.
He's not.
He is still part of the Democratic Party himself, and he still is his father's son, Mario Cuomo legacy, but it's not the Democratic left that we have today.
It's more of the John F. Kennedy family back in the days, his father.
That's a very different kind of political party than what we have today on the left.
He would never be my candidate, but I can objectively say that the Democrat machine screwed him in his career.
Yeah, I don't disagree, Tom.
And I don't want to upset you.
I don't disagree with that, because I know sometimes you're temperate.
But let me read this next story.
So California reveals all job gains in 2023 were fake.
There's no way California would ever fake numbers like that.
No, of course.
Not Gavin.
Now, this is a zero hedge story, and Zero Hedge does a good job when they write these stories.
So let's see what California had to do and say.
A report from California Legislative Analyst Office, LAO, disclosed that all reported jobs gains in California for 2023 were inaccurate, revealing a job loss of 32,000 from September to December, contrary to prior reports showing a solid increase of 117,000 jobs.
The LAO confirmed that based on the most recent release of the early benchmarks, payroll jobs declined by 32,000.
That's the difference of 150,000 jobs.
If you do the math, the LAO report, newest early jobs revision shows no new net job growth during 2023, indicated that with the fourth quarter revision, calendar year 2023, saw essentially no net job growth.
This significant revision contrasts sharply with the preliminary monthly report, which had shown substantially job growth.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics revised state employment figures annually through benchmark revisions, while quarterly revisions by Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia offer more frequent updates.
Tom.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, whenever you see the initial headline on jobs reports, just wait three weeks for the revision.
Did you see how many times the word revision was used in what Pat just read?
And that's not people accusing them.
This is BLS, your Bureau of Label Statistics.
It comes out about four weeks after jobs report.
We have a revision on that number.
We have a revision on that number.
It's politicized.
They put out, because they're influenced by the current presidential administration, to put out a certain job number.
Then everybody touts it.
Everybody tweets about it.
And they think that the voters go to sleep and they go on to other things.
Well, guess what?
Then they come out four weeks later and they go, here's a revision.
Now California is getting ahead because BLS, that's the nation, that's Washington, revises the state employment figures.
annually, meaning they go and they audit, like the IRS, they audit those and they update them.
And the California LAO legislative analyst office is hated by the governor's office in California.
It's hated because they tend to be more nonpartisan.
And so they went out and issued their revision before they could be corrected by the federal government.
And when they put the revisions in place, three minus two equals one minus one equals zero.
Yeah, we really didn't have jobs there.
And worse, by the way, when you peel back the onion one more PBD, full-time jobs were lost in significant quantities.
And the net replacement was part-time jobs.
So even though they went to net zero, underneath it, there is a huge shift of loss of full-time jobs being replaced by little part-time jobs.
This shows just how bad it is and that the migration out of California, businesses cutting payrolls in California, all those restaurant chains and everything that were closing in Oakland.
The math is coming down.
Gavin Newsom gets a zero on this test.
I was going to say the homeless thing.
No, I'm just saying he gets a zero, net zero job growth.
It's a zero.
No, I appreciate that perspective.
All I can think of is that in 2020, 2021, 2022, how many people left California?
You know, they nominated Gavin Newsom three times in a row, U-Haul employee of the year.
I think this was 2024 is the first time in the fiscal year that they've actually had a net population growth.
Tom, you broke down the stats of what's going on in the job situation right there.
But we've said it time and time again.
I don't know what the hell is going on in California.
We talked about them raising the minimum wage, but the minimum wage is nowhere what a living wage needs to be in California.
I'm always remembering that conversation we had at your, what's your favorite restaurant?
The Japanese place?
Yoshi.
Yoshinoya.
Yoshinoya.
And the guy came up to PBD.
High-end, high-yen, high-income.
He's amazing.
He's like, hey, I don't like what you're talking.
You're talking trash about California.
And he's like, well, tell me why.
It was an interesting argument.
He was like, this is right after the RNC debate.
It was interesting.
They had a conversation.
It was 11.
And as you unpeel the onion, to use Tom's analogy right there, it turns out that he was sort of a real estate investor and he was not investing in any property in California.
He's like, yeah, I'm a Mexican guy.
My properties are in Chicago.
And oh, why?
Why?
Why in Illinois?
Why all that?
Oh, it's cheaper there.
Oh, what do you mean?
It was an emotional response.
He didn't like that you were talking trash about California emotionally, but when he had to think rationally and put his money where his mouth is, it turned out it was a horrible bet.
Listen, talk all the crap you want about California and all about Gavin Newsome.
You guys are bashing this freaking amazing guy.
He just built a high-rise in downtown LA with $600,000 units for the homeless in downtown L.A.
So if you want to talk crap, at least the homeless people are not going to just be on the ground, Pat.
They're going to be, by the way, $600,000 high-rises for all.
Can we revisit this in one month and see what this place is going to look like?
If they don't have security and people watching for drugs and everything.
Do they have a pool and a workout room?
Can you play the cliprock?
Penny, let's quit and move back.
And by the way, this is after that story a month ago when they just lost $20 billion.
Yeah, on trying to run homelessness.
This is downtown LA.
Look how sick this is.
Look how sick these buildings are.
Today they are.
We'll check them out.
Yeah.
I mean, if you had to guess, Tom, what a month?
A month it's going to be bad?
Give it six months.
Okay, we'll give it six months and I'll remember to come back to talk about it because it's going to be wild.
But look how sick these apartments are.
They're all studio apartments, by the way.
I mean, you know, so this is what, Rob, can you hit the audio so we can hear it?
Go forward.
Help LA's unhoused population.
It's taken three Weingard Tower is finished.
The first residents could move in in a matter of weeks.
Fox 11 Susan Harasuna joining us live from the 19th floor to give us a tour.
Susan, yes, and Christine, let me just tell you: this is just one of the common areas for the residents.
I want to give you a look at the views from the 19th floor.
And let me tell you, this is a view that many people would pay good money for.
But here, this building is specifically dedicated and fully dedicated to those who are low income or unhoused.
Low income or unhoused.
One cut.
Big name Politicos posed for the ribbon cutting to celebrate the completion of Weingart Tower One.
Three years of construction, and now the 19th floor high-rise is oh so close to welcoming the first of 278 tenants.
I know voters say I voted for Proposition 8.
By the way, this is the same lady that wanted $50 an hour minimum wage.
Exactly.
Well, now you can see what HHH has done.
And what HHH has done is build an affordable apartment community.
There are 47 one-bedroom apartments and 228 studio apartments complete with Linux, cooking.
Section 80, this is for homeless people.
Shannon Gresham and Amaya Baca are already greenlit to move into one of the students.
It's high-rise for homeless shelter in downtown L.A.
I don't really think it was no other life than this right here.
And there's some of them for extremely low, like under the poverty line for income.
Cooking and doing decorating everything in there.
You know, it's my own little house.
To qualify, prospective tenants will apply, agree to participate in programs determined by a case manager, and pay roughly 30% of their income.
Can you pause it, Rob?
So here's a question that you think about: Who do you think is watching this saying, Hey, babe, let's move to California?
And who do you think is watching this saying, Hey, babe, let's get the hell out of California?
Honestly, actually, think about it.
Okay.
Because when you say, you know, an ad, you do a marketing ad, and you say, if you come to our company, we give you salary, we give you leads, we give you this, we give you, you don't have to do anything, and you can work from home.
Who wants that job?
Okay.
Then you say, if you come here, we're only commissioned.
You got to find your own clients.
You got to, who comes to that job?
Very simple.
The person that goes to one is not the hustler.
The person that goes to the other one that is like, I don't care, you pay me higher commission.
I'm going to go and find it anyways.
So, what they're saying in California right now is, come to us, we'll put you in a place like this.
Guess who's paying for that, by the way?
The hardworking people.
That's right.
Yeah, of course.
Oh, another back-to-back-to-back, just bad policies that drive job creators out.
Very simple.
There's still a few pockets left in California that you can live there.
You're going to be okay.
But there's a lot of places you got to run the hell away from.
It's crazy.
I think the citizens have to have two views in their mind in California.
Like the guy we met that night, who we had a very rational conversation with.
But Vinny, it's like going like this: hey, man, stop picking on my family.
I don't like what you're saying.
Don't pick on my family.
And he says, All right, I won't pick on your family.
But hey, can I marry your daughter?
No, no, you don't want to marry my daughter.
She's crazy.
That's like what he said.
He's like, Don't pick on my state.
Don't pick on my state.
Where are you investing?
I wouldn't invest here.
It's nuts.
I'm investing in single-family homes in Nevada.
Wait a minute.
How do you live in both mindsets?
Because one is the denial based on your choice.
You're in denial about what's going on in California.
And because you made a choice to live there, you also have a sense of pride and a sense of, oh, that's my choice.
And so you feel like you have to be right.
So you lose your objectivity and you end up defending California, even though when you start asking about the personal decisions, oh, I would never do that.
They're crazy.
The only thing I'll add to this is I want to know the qualifications of being able to get into one of these buildings because we all understand what low-income housing is and Section 8 housing is.
I would assume that a mandate, you have to have a job.
Now, these homeless people that have no job, you know, the whole threshold of how much rent you should be paying is 30% of your gross income.
That goes across the board, especially in this low-income housing and everything.
There's a limit with that.
But what was the guy that ran for Republican Herman Cain?
Nah, nah, nah.
The rent is too damn high.
The rent is too damn high in L.A., I get it.
But how are we rewarding homeless people with a house or that?
Sorry, not homeless.
Not homeless, unhoused people, because we don't want to offend them.
A lot of them have drug problems, addiction problems, alcohol problems, and they're just giving them a place to live.
You tell me what this literal shit show is going to look like in 8 years old.
And that's not even the only one that they're building.
If you take a look here, these are all of the other ones that are currently under construction that they're building other high-rise apartments for the unhoused or homeless.
Unhoused.
Tower one, tower two, Broadway.
I want to know who's subsidizing it, how much the government is paying for this.
What are the, is this a public, private investment?
Who's building this?
Who's the developers?
How much money is being greased to the people that are doing this?
Hey, take care of me.
I'll take care of you.
I want to know what's happening right here.
This seems like a lot of fraud behind the scenes.
I would guarantee that you make a great point, Adam.
And I would guarantee that the contractors that are building this are making defense contractor margins.
Oh, for sure.
I'm looking at this right now to see what is the requirement.
Rob, can you find it or no?
I'm looking as well.
Yeah.
Skid Row is the epicenter.
By the way, every year for 10 years, Christmas morning at 4:30, we used to take 20, 50, 100 at the end.
I think it was like 200 of us.
We'd go to Skid Row.
We'd give food, blankets, Bibles, you know, pillows, you name it.
We give them so many different things every morning, Skid Row.
And it was not a good place to be at.
I mean, it's just a travesty, some of the stories that people would share.
There are some people that are there because they've made some bad choices in their lives.
And some of them ended up being there because of bad economic choices that they made in their lives.
Regardless, the outcome long term wouldn't be to keep giving handouts.
That's not the long-term solution to keep giving handouts because then you're going to solve every problem that way if they continue this way.
Anyways, let's go to another story.
Here's a story of a man named Stephen A. Smith, who's the face of ESPN.
Wall Street Journal asked the question, how much is that worth for being a face of ESPN?
Stephen A. Smith is a key figure at ESPN, highlighted the importance of marketing and sports careers, telling analyst Andrea Carter, you are going to be underpaid for the rest of what I believe will be an illustrious career unless you get your mind right about the marketing, that marketing.
It matters.
Known for his controversial and attention-grabbing commentary, Smith has been offered $18 million a year to stay with ESPN, marking a 50% increase from his current salary.
Smith's influence is evident as First Take, which has hosted over a decade, enjoys a 22-month streak of audience growth.
His segments frequently go viral, making him a critical asset for ESPN's upcoming streaming service.
ESPN's anchor Scott Van Pelt said Booker could just come out on social media or anywhere else and be like, no, that's just not true.
And then you have the back and forth.
The back and forth then becomes its own content at all.
I mean, name another person at ESPN who's worthy of this type of contract.
Go ahead.
I'll wait.
I mean, Scott Van Pelt is great and all, but he's not Stephen A. Smith.
Stephen A. Smith is the face of ESPN.
I know that they have the latest and greatest.
What's the podcaster that's out there?
McAfee.
Yeah, Pat McAfee that's doing his thing.
I think Pat McAfee is actually getting paid more than this.
But Pat McAfee has a different type of audience than I guess than Stephen A. Smith.
The question is, is Stephen A. Smith going to sign this contract or is he going to negotiate?
How much do you think McAfee's getting paid if you're saying McAfee gets paid more than Stephen A. You can Google the numbers?
I think he's getting, I think he signed a $150 million contract, some massive amount.
What was the number on Stephen A. Smith's?
$18 million over how many years?
$18 million over five years.
Okay.
So he's almost $100 million.
So that's $95 million.
What's the number?
No, it's $18 million a year over five years.
$91 million.
Okay, $91 million.
I guarantee you, Pat McAfee is making more than that.
Guarantee.
That's 100%.
I mean, check the numbers.
I want to say he signed a... 100%.
Well, they claim his contract is $85 billion over five years.
$85 billion.
Okay.
So meaning what ESPN is trying to say is we're giving you a million more than McAfee.
Is that the number, though?
Okay.
So his contract was $85 million over five years?
That's what they've reported to the public.
Okay.
Okay.
That's what they're telling to the public.
But the real contract with McAfee, one doesn't really know if it's 85, if it's more than that.
Okay.
So who gets more eyeballs?
Who's done more work for ESPN?
Not even close.
Stephen A. Smith or Mayor?
Not even close.
Okay.
And respect to Pat McAfee.
But here's the question, Pat.
I mean, this is, you'd probably be the best person to answer this.
Do you reward someone for what they've done for you in the past or what they could potentially do in the future?
Because whether it's the past and potentially the future, Stephen A. Smith, no question.
But the fact that they're giving them pretty much the exact same contract leads me to say, do they believe that Pat McAfee is the future of ESPN?
But by the way, these numbers that you're talking about with Stephen A. Smith and Pat McAfee, these are massive figures.
I mean, these are not the guys playing the sport.
These are the guys talking about the sport.
Just goes to show you how big media and podcasting has become.
There's two things I'll tell you.
There's two things I'll tell you.
Rob, can you go on YouTube and type in Pat McAfee?
Okay.
The Pat McAfee show.
Look how many subscribers he's got.
Go to the Pat McAfee show and type in subscribers.
Should be like 2.0 million.
2.58.
Okay.
Now go to the Stephen A. Smith and type in how many subscribers he's got.
Okay.
Stephen A. Smith show.
It's not anywhere near what he's got.
I just want you to see his channel.
It's what?
What do you see?
709 versus what?
2.6.
But when did they start?
That's exactly where I'm going to next.
So go to about and see when Pat McAfee started.
Go to see, joined when.
Did they give you a date?
Yeah, I just think what you just clicked was good.
Rob, go to click on, go to on the bottom, 2017, which is what?
2017.
And how many videos does it?
Zoom in a little bit, Rob, so we can see it.
1,000.
Can you zoom in a little bit, Rob, so I can see that?
Or it doesn't let you do it.
There you go.
8,319 videos he's uploaded.
Stephen Anthony has 2,000.
Now go to Stephen A.
Oh, you looked him up?
I just thought when you went on.
Okay, go to Stephen A. Go to Stephen A. Rob, and let's see what Stephen A.'s got.
So Stephen A. started go to the about.
I want to say he started very recently.
He just started it.
Scroll up a little bit, Rob.
Go up the other way.
I can't see the date, Rob.
Okay, there you go.
2022.
So he's got 2022 and he's got 2017.
So it's five years ago.
He has 72 and how many views?
138 million views.
So he's got 15 times more views.
He's got four times more videos is what Pat McAfee's got.
And he's got four times more subs, give or take, but he also started it five years before Stephen A did.
Okay.
If ESPN If ESPN has given McAfee a contract, because the way they would do it is if they gave Pat McAfee a contract, that's a sick contract behind closed doors, and they think Stephen A is not going to find out what, you know, what do you call it, Pat McAfee's contract is, they're delusional.
It's ESPN, okay?
And they're going to get an idea about what's going on, okay?
And one of the things that leaked is the fact that Pat McAfee every year used to pay a million dollars to Aaron Rodgers to just come on the podcast.
And he had like four people who would pay a million dollars a year to give or take to just come to his podcast.
And these are obviously big name.
Aaron Rodgers, I think another one was Nick Sabe.
I don't know who yet.
Nick Saban could have been another one.
And all these guys that would show up to his podcast once you're as a contributor.
Big name, celebrity, prime time, players, quarterbacks, et cetera, et cetera.
If ESPN doesn't take care of the guy, do you know how long he's been at ESPN?
20 years.
And by the way, do you know how long his takes have been sick?
How long he's been the most prepared?
How long he's done the best?
There's nobody in the marketplace that's better than Stephen A. Smith.
Forget about his politics, whether you like it or not.
When it comes down to the specific area, there's no one that does it better than he does.
If ESPN plays with fire, you know who needs somebody that he can go to in a heartbeat and can, you know, replace a spot of a guy that's about to retire.
And it's one of the biggest shows that a lot of people who like basketball watch inside the NBA.
Charles Barkley.
Barkley is about to step away.
So now imagine Stephen A gets an option to go over there.
Okay.
And now we're talking.
And let me give you even worse for some of these guys.
What if, you know, some of these Roku guys, what did NFL Films pay for that one game?
$110 million for the Miami Dolphins against Peacock.
And Peacock.
Peacock paid for the one game.
$110 million.
Yep.
What if Peacock says, hey, Stephen A, how about we bring you here to Peacock?
Hey, what if, and you know what ends up happening to me?
This is how I process it.
I think this is ESPN's way and Disney's way of saying cable is dying.
Because you're willing to pay a guy that's got a bigger digital audience and he's bringing in money to you than maybe a Stephen A that behind closer.
You're saying, yeah, we're paying Stephen A $1 million more than we would pay, but we're giving a lot more money to on the back end to Pat McAfee.
Yeah, Disney is indirectly saying digital is the long game.
They're saying it themselves.
But there's many options for Stephen A.
And how old is Stephen A, by the way?
Rob, can you Google how old Stephen A is?
What's Stephen A's age?
I'm going to say 50.
What's Stephen A's age?
54, 53?
What is his age?
56.
Oh, wow.
He looks good.
But he's in October, baby, man.
October 14th, October 18th.
That's why it's making sense.
But, you know, when you think about Stephen A., he's got plenty of options of where to go.
And I don't know how soon he needs to sign the contract.
I don't know the exact date that he has to sign a contract.
But Stephen A, if you don't have to sign the contract today, tomorrow, month from now, two months from now, three months from now, take your time.
Take your time.
Because I'm telling you, this is going to keep happening.
Especially like that.
It's going to happen to you because you're a golden space, hands down, Tom.
So I kind of dove into this a little bit and I have a perspective here.
Here you have Stephen A in his absolute prime with a wonderful proven track record.
This is not Larry King when he's 75 years old and say, okay, we'll give you a two, three year contract.
No, no, no.
He is absolutely in his power years, power prime.
He's got, remember, the more, the longer he goes, not only the more success he has, but the more perspectives and events and everything he has in his mind to draw on because he's been doing it longer.
I compare this to the Bryce Harper contract.
Pat, you remember Bryce Harper, 2019.
Scott Boris did the right thing.
He said, look, you haven't just had like your three, four-year rookie deal and you had your two years of arbitration in baseball.
Everyone knew that Bryce Harper deserved a number because they knew two things.
Number one, outstanding player.
Number two, one of the best eyes at the play.
And he was going to convert to first base or be a DH and so extend it.
And Boris held out and Bryce Harper cracked the $300 million.
They got $330 from the Phillies, but it took time.
They had to wait and get it there.
I happen to believe that what Stephen A is worth, when you take a look at media and where it is, you know, some people, I think, I think this should be 22 to 25.
And I'm just looking at, I'm backing into the versatility of him.
He's a podcast.
He's a first take guy with his own perspectives.
He's a respondent and a moderator.
The guy is a five-tool player in terms of what he does in sports commentary.
And I think this should be 22 to 25 because I'm backing into it.
And there's also something else.
There was a shortage of Bryce Harper's.
There was one Bryce Harper if you wanted Bryce Harper at that time.
And you wanted a 14-year player and you wanted to put it in there.
There is a shortage of five-tool players in broadcasting.
And I think that's what this is worth because I compare it.
And, you know, if that's if ESPN, who's been in cutting and controversy, and then, oh, my goodness, you have to remember, they set the benchmark when they put that 17 number out there and they were saying we're willing to pay a lot more for fewer people and they cut a lot of the journeyman athletes.
Well, then you need to pay a lot more for this guy because he's this five-tool player in the commentary box.
Makes sense.
The only thing I will add, you know, if you follow the money, if I was defending Pat McAfee right here, I would say, what sport is Pat McAfee best known for?
Football.
Football.
What sport is Stephen A. Smith best known for?
Basketball.
So NFL, by and large, is the most profitable driving revenue sport in the country.
I think they almost double what the NBA and MLB drive.
So as far as talent, as far as eyeballs, as far as pedigree, as far as the past history, Stephen A. Smith has got that.
But the one thing that Pat McAfee definitely has on his side, talented as he is, is double the revenue of NFL.
Let me ask you a question.
Can Stephen A go to a Fox and garner $20 million a year payday to be a political commentator?
I think he can go anywhere and get 18 military.
Hear me out what I just said.
Obviously, it would be current events, but also political.
Can Stephen A go to Fox as a African-American center-left famous sport?
Can he go to Fox?
Fox needs someone right now.
And Fox signed him for a $20-plus million dollar a year contract.
I think so.
I think so, too.
I think he could, but I don't think he's interested in doing that.
I think he wants to stick with sports.
I don't know about that.
I don't know about that.
I think he's starting ever since that age flipped to five.
He's been talking more publicly about politics than he did before.
You know, some things have changed.
Doesn't mean you have to agree with him or not.
It just means when you're saying, you know, the sport of football, Stephen A. also brings the sports of politics.
And that is a sport that he can play.
McAfee can't play that sport.
But you're right.
Football is a bigger, profitable, it's not even close between the two of them.
I think it's $15 billion.
What is Troy Aikman made?
I mean, did you see Peyton Manning's contract?
What did he get?
Ridiculous.
Can you pull up Peyton Manning's contract?
Like, it just doesn't make any.
Oh, what Tom Brady just got from, I think it's Fox as well.
Yeah, Peyton Manning signing contract.
$1 million.
Yeah.
Think what Tom Brady got.
No, Tom Brady's was like $347.
Something ridiculous.
Yeah.
Can you tap in Tom Brady's contract?
Just tap in Tom Brady's contract.
Let's see a TV contract.
TV contract.
Yeah, let's see what that.
Look at this.
$37.5 million over $50.
$30 for sport.
$30.
Talking about sports.
$20 million.
That is insane.
Yeah, but it just goes to shot anybody.
There's only one guy up him to do it.
Let's go to the next story.
Let's go to the next story, which, by the way, these may go together because Bob Iker may need a drink to be honest with you because he's going to have to pay up.
Do Americans drink too much?
Right?
Alcohol is driving a debate in Washington.
A debate is opening in Washington, D.C., over federal dietary guidelines for alcohol consumption.
Current guidelines suggest up to two drinks per day for men and one for women.
But upcoming updates may recommend lower limits, Vinnie.
The alcohol industry, backed by lobbyists and lawmakers like Representative Andy Barr, is challenging the proposed changes, arguing for decisions rooted in real science.
The HHS panel, which includes researchers like Tim Naimi, Jürgen Rem, Kevin Shield, support stricter guidelines, citing evidence that any amount of alcohol can be harmful.
Their research aligns with the World Health Organization stance that no amount of alcohol is safe.
It's widely accepted that alcohol is a car synogen, especially at higher consumption levels, said Christian Abnett of National Cancer Institute.
Vinny, is this inspiring you to start drinking again at all?
Or are you happy with the decision you made a year ago?
It's crazy that you say that.
I just, this morning before I walked in here, I was on a Manect and I was talking to this guy about just how, besides God, besides going to church and following that path, taking out alcohol is probably the best decision I've ever made in my life.
I am now after a year and, well, May 31st, Kelly's birthday was my one-year mark.
I am now just starting to get emotions back, like just smiling throughout the day, Pat, getting goosebumps, remembering everything, waking up in the morning.
And I think, you know, throughout the day, every single one of us at home, you guys, we all try to avoid poison in the air that we breathe, the water that we drink, the food that we're eating.
You're voluntarily putting this thing and say what you want.
People are like, well, I'm just having one drink or it's literally poison.
And when you see somebody, Tom, stumbling and falling, and we all point and we laugh like, ah, look at him.
He's twisted.
He's faded.
No, no, he's poisoned, but he doesn't have enough to kill him.
I mean, it's destroyed many people in my family's lives.
And I'm so happy that I broke out of it.
But I think anything to try to limit it, because think about the government, it's legal and they want you to be drinking it.
They want you to be smoking.
They want you to be going down that path.
I personally just think it's, I think it's a good thing to lessen anybody drinking, especially if it's poisoning you.
Well, remember, in the 1950s, the U.S. government looked the other way and actually said it was okay when cigarette advertisements portrayed doctors saying, and full of vitamins, there were these advertisements.
And so is it any shock that our lawmakers, which most of whom are pickled, And our need need dollars for campaigns and are getting dollars from spirits companies saying, listen, help me with my reelection and I'll go over the federal dietary guidelines and I'll put one glass of red wine a day.
No, no, not red wine.
I'm from Jim Beam.
Okay, then one drink for you, two drinks for your wife.
Look, this thing is backed by lobbyists and lawmakers.
So is it any surprise that they're trying to stretch and find some benefit of alcohol to put it on a federal dietary guideline?
However, you know, you have people that probably reviewed this in committee, like professional drinker Nancy Pelosi, who probably could come back and say, you know, this seems pretty reasonable.
You know, there's a lot less, a lot less than where I'm at.
And so I think what you've got is a couple of sensible people saying, you know, alcohol is a carcinogen.
You're saying it's a poison.
And higher consumption levels, you know, is not only dangerous, but it affects lifestyle and people's work and relationships.
And oh my gosh.
And then you got to have, you know, the U.S. government bailing you out because you lost your job and you're homeless now, but you can get a nice place in LA.
Yeah, exactly.
Adam.
Well, number one, respect to Vinny.
You're one year sober, one year in one month, I want to say.
One year a month.
Congratulations to you.
I just hit nine weeks.
That's freaking amazing of not having a drink.
And for me, it was more just, let's see if I can do the 75-hard thing and see how long I could go.
But the reality is, yes, Americans drink too much.
Yes, Americans take too many pills.
Yes, Americans, especially Gen Z, are vaping way too much.
Yes, the cigarettes are no longer a thing, but the vape has basically usurped cigarettes and it's a problem.
But alcohol, I would dare to say is probably the most devastating.
You know, there's been a push to legalize marijuana.
We see that, you know, micro-dosing and mushrooms are becoming more of a thing.
People need an escape.
People need to chill.
People want to relax.
People want to let loose.
I get it.
But alcohol, I mean, talk about just making dumb decisions, beer goggles.
Oh, my God.
How the hell did that happen?
Some of the worst things I've ever seen is just people getting drunk, fights, drunk driving.
It's just a mess out there.
And I think people are waking up to it.
And, you know, we were at the dinner, the Manek dinner the other night.
It was free-flowing wine, amazing dinner.
I just had club soda.
Thank you.
I went to the fights this weekend, this bare knuckle brawl fights, by the way, something to look into.
You know, there was, hey, whatever you want, open bar.
Yeah, I'll just do a Diet Coke.
I was at the bars in South Beach.
You wanted to go check out the bar?
No, not drinking whatsoever.
It feels good.
I would highly recommend giving it a shot.
If you haven't gone a week without drinking, try it.
If you haven't gone a month without drinking, try it.
It's good.
That's great question.
When your 75 hard is done, are you going to keep going?
Are you going to celebrate with drinking?
No, to be honest with you, I have zero interest in drinking.
I'm a social creature.
I would never like, oh, let's get drunk.
That's not my thing.
Like, I don't drink when I'm home alone.
It's more like, hey, go to the bar.
They're buying a drink, have a drink.
But it's, you know, mom earmuffs, a girl that I'm talking to, whatever, she kissed me and she had a drink of tequila.
I was like, oh, it tastes disgusting.
So, what do you think?
Are you going to just go like, because me, like, I'm never going back.
I don't see myself being like, I'll never have a drink.
You know, maybe an old-fashioned to celebrate something, but I don't see myself drinking as much as I've drank in the past.
That's good.
Good for you.
It's just not worth it.
Listen, yes.
You don't drink.
No, but I'll have a drink.
Right.
You know, but I don't drink.
I've never seen, I've never seen Pat finish a drink.
Yeah.
Like, it'll be like a, what do you guys drink?
The old-fashioned?
And I even look at it.
I mean, guys, I drank like a maniac.
I look at it.
I go, man, it looks good.
And then Pat will be talking and there's ice and it's over here.
That's like that much left.
You're not a drinker.
No, I'm not.
But I was.
And not as a, you know, just a guy that partied a lot.
And every weekend we try to finish all the tequila in the army.
It was just very, we were committed to it.
Hang on.
God bless you.
Bless you.
There it is.
I'm back.
Thank you.
You know what I told Cube yesterday?
I said, there's two decisions I made a long time ago that changed my life.
You make a lot of decisions.
A couple of them changed my life.
One, in 2003, I stopped listening to radio and hip-hop.
I just stopped.
Adam can tell you.
He'll make fun of me.
He says, Pat only knows rap up to 03.
03.
I can do rap.
I can do hip-hop.
I can do RB.
I can do, you know, I mean, hip-hop rap, same thing, but I can do all that on Fonto 03.
After they start giving me names, couldn't tell you anything, right?
So I replaced radio.
Last time I ever listened to radio that I drove a car was 03, and I replaced it with audiobooks.
Period.
My car has been audiobooks since then.
So audiobook listening to this book, to that book, to this book.
And I listened to one book I listened to on replay in my car for two years straight was 33 Strategies of War.
That was it, Robert Green, over and over and over.
People would be like, are you still listening to the same thing?
Yep.
You still listen to the same thing?
Yep.
It was over and again because I saw the gamification of what some guys that were like, oh, we believe in you.
And then they became deceptive and dark.
And I'm like, wait a minute, this competition game, these people are very weird.
So you have to kind of know the different games that people play when they compete.
I read this.
And then gradually I realized, man, I'm so glad.
I don't miss it.
I don't miss any of it.
When I sit there and I think about the music I listen to, if I listen to Hit 'em Up, I told Cube, I have a certain emotion that comes out of my body.
If I listen to Momberta, right, like I, it's one of my favorite hip-hop songs.
Favorite, right?
I think it's track 16.
It's one of the later tracks.
I just get, I love it when I listen to that song.
Just something about you like you want to work out, right?
When I listen to my music, okay, and then alcohol, you know, you replace that.
My music of choice today is 80s.
I like 80s.
I like Italian.
I like Toto Coutono.
I like Adriano Celentano.
I like Eros Ramazzotti.
I like Raul de Blasio.
I like these guys.
Andy.
And Andy.
August.
17 dad palaz.
And Dariush.
Come on.
Salash.
Darius.
Yeah, Dariush would send very ice gifts.
And then alcohol.
You know, when the moment you, you know, I'm like, I'm done.
I don't want to drink it.
And I was gone.
I didn't touch it for seven years.
I'm like, I don't have a need for it.
I don't yearn it.
Nothing, right?
And you move on.
Certain decisions in life you make will positively impact your life.
Dropping music that has certain language in it, because I think words have power, will do good for you.
And also dropping alcohol drugs that manipulate the decision-making process, I think it's also a good decision for you to make as well.
By the way, you've sort of started a movement, PBD.
Here we go.
Because, you know, there's a new movement happening across the country right now.
It's called the sober, curious movement.
There's a lot of curious movements going on right now, but the sober, curious movement, how Americans are redefining socializing and drinking culture.
Now, 40% of Americans want to drink less this year and are basically part of this sober, curious movement, rethinking their relationship with alcohol.
That's a Fox News legal poison.
Legal poison.
And one of my friends, Tony Baker, would be like, when you tell people in public, you're like, no, no, I don't drink.
They're like, what?
When people are like, what do you mean you don't drink poison?
You don't want poison?
Like, it's a hilarious bit.
It's like they want you to be drinking this poison, and it's the best decision I made.
Rob, what story have we not hit before we wrap up?
Julian Assange.
Oh, Julian Assange.
Let's talk about Julian Assange.
So Julian Assange to plead guilty in exchange for release from prison.
Okay.
All right.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Julian Assange will plead guilty to one felony charge under the Espionage Act, Espionage Act, in a plea deal that will end his years-long legal saga and will allow him to go free.
Assange will plead guilty to conspiring to unlawfully obtain and disseminate National Defense Information with the plea and sentencing scheduled for Wednesday in federal court in the Mariana Islands.
Assange has spent the last five years in a British prison fighting extradition to the U.S. as part of the plea deal.
His five-year sentence will be considered time-served, ensuring he will not serve additional prison time after the court proceedings.
He's expected to return to Australia.
Assange was indicted on 18 charges, including seven espionage charges for publishing classified military intelligence documents.
In 2010, he was accused of helping Chelsea Manning steal and leak diplomatic cable and military files, sparking a national debate over whether his actions were heroic or harmful to the U.S. national security.
Tom.
Well, I think there's been a moderation.
Speaking of moderation of alcohol, there's been a moderation of anger by governments toward Julian Assange because the only way this happens is the U.S. government sits back and says, look, he's been in British prison for five years abroad.
I don't think he's going to get out and do anything because he knows that we will just come after him.
He wants to go to Australia.
He wants to go home.
Tell you what.
We've got the beef.
Let's bring him into court.
Let's make sure he pleads guilty so we can parade it around as guilty.
We have our precedent because remember, what they want here is one, to manage Julian Assange, but the second thing they want is a precedent for anybody else.
Scared the hell out of everybody else.
Scare the hell out of everybody else to say what it was because now they can say he served five years and then we moderated it and let him go home to Australia.
Now they can say anybody that unlawfully obtains and disseminates national defense information, which is pretty broad.
That could be like a diagram for a helicopter part.
That's national defense.
That's our tool of war.
That's us.
So I think what's happened here is they want a precedent.
He's going to say, all right, I've had enough, but he'll be given time served, and now he can go home to Australia.
But it's, you know, he's basically been checkmated and sitting around in prison for five years, plus the nine months before where he was on detention before the British put it into play as a sentence.
Here's an RFK tweet.
Julian Assange struck a plea deal and will go free.
I'm overjoyed.
He's a generational hero.
The bad news is that he had to plead guilty to conspiracy to obtain to disclose national defense info, which means the U.S. security state succeeded in criminalizing journalism and extending their jurisdiction globally to non-citizens.
Julian had to take this.
He has heart problems and he would have died in prison.
But the security state has imposed a horrifying precedent and dealt a big blow to freedom of the press.
Good point.
And by the way, this is a story from New York Post.
I got Rob here as well, if you want to pull it up.
Julian Assange drops $500,000 for flight to remote island to avoid setting foot on U.S. mainland.
$500,000 private jet.
The cost of the jet was.
Someone paid for that.
Yeah, of course someone paid for that.
U.K. prison and flew from London Stansted airport to U.S. territory of Sapin in the northern Mariana Islands, a $500,000 flight, according to reports.
He will have a U.S. federal court hearing Wednesday.
But there you go.
So he had to go through that.
Adam, your thoughts on that?
Yeah, well, there's a couple characters in this situation.
Obviously, the primary character is this guy, Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.
This was something that happened in the first term under Obama in 09, 2010.
This is when the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were on.
And the allegations were that he published the largest amount of classified information in American history.
I think it was a half a million classified docs specifically about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Specifically, there was one that showed shocking footage of this one specific airstrike and bad collateral murder when they were shooting and they shot the Reuters guys, the two reporters.
Is that what it was?
So, you know, he's obviously the main character here and everything that's happening with him being seeking asylum.
I think it was in a Swedish, it was in Sweden, and it was that was it Ecuador that had an embassy.
An embassy, exactly.
The Ecuadorian embassy.
But the second person that's involved in her is this person, Chelsea Manning, who was a former intelligence officer and whistleblowers.
We know the whole conversation with whistleblowers.
And even Julian Zassage, they said it before.
Is he a heroic or is it harmful?
Are you a journalist or a criminal?
Are you a whistleblower?
Are you committing espionage against the country?
Are you a hero or a villain?
There's a lot of complicated situations here.
But Chelsea Manning is now a trans woman, born a man, now a woman.
She's the one that basically leaked the information to WikiLeaks to Assange.
She was sentenced to 35 years of a maximum security prison.
This is 2010.
Then Obama stepped in and commuted her sentence for seven years.
She was charged with aiding the enemy.
So the whole conversation is that this happened in a time of war.
She gets out.
She runs for Senate in Maryland as a Democrat.
She gets this guy's a guy.
This is a born a man.
Now a woman.
Released that video.
He's now a woman.
Exactly.
By the way.
That's a girl now.
Yeah, she was born Bradley Bradley Manning.
Now it's Chelsea Manning.
She went through the transition during this time, right, in 2010.
So it's a complicated situation.
That's him.
That's dead picturing, Rob.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I'm not going to do that, Rob.
Let's have a little respect for Chelsea.
But, you know, the conversation, I mean, she won a bunch of awards for what she's doing.
There's going to be a school of thought that's saying these are bad people committing espionage.
These are good people doing whistleblowers.
But then she ran for Senate, got blown out in Maryland.
But you got to give her a little respect right here.
So in 2019, she was then jailed again and had to pay a quarter million dollar fine.
Why?
Because she was charged with being contempt of court for refusing to testify against Julian Assange.
So respect to her for being aligned with Julian Assange right there.
The third character here, people don't know this, but Julian Assange, his lawyer, was a lady called Stella.
She was representing him.
He then married her, had two kids with her.
Interesting conversation that's going on right there.
I mean, politicians, Galore, were basically stumping and campaigning for his freedom.
And look at him now and look at him go.
We'll see what he does next.
Listen, I'm a fan because I've been following Julian Assange from the jump.
And let's just strip it down to what was he actually trying to do with WikiLeaks?
Okay, he had a platform where people that were inside or just people in general can expose corruption, the lying, the deceitfulness.
And what did they do?
Once he started, the height started coming up at him.
By the way, he exposed the Iraq war logs, Afghani war diaries, the U.S. State Department cables, cable game 2010, all the Guantanamo Bay files, everything that Hillary Clinton and who was that other that disgusting John Podesta, every single thing that came out on these people, he was just exposing them to the world.
And then what happens?
You have people like Mike Pompeo basically putting a hit list on this guy.
And then Hillary Clinton in 2010, people, she denies this, but a bunch of people said in 2010 State Department meeting was mentioned in several news reports that she said, can't we just drone this guy?
That's because when you expose the truth, all that deep state, all that people have to go after you.
Same thing with Trump.
When he exposed everything, look what happened to him.
If I was him, I'd be hiding.
I'd be careful because of people like Hillary Clinton because he exposed the truth.
And Adam, no matter what people want to say, oh, were people's lives in danger?
He even said there was actually nobody that died on our side because of the information that he put up, but he exposed the truth.
So here's a question.
Yeah.
Tom.
Okay.
So he's guilty, right?
He's going to come in and plead as he's guilty to be able to take care of his health because he needs to do surgery, see the right doctors, et cetera, et cetera.
No problem.
Does that mean the next whistleblower is going to be afraid of coming out and doing anything?
What's the next whistleblower going to do?
The next whistleblower is also going to go live somewhere else and not come to U.S. territory.
How is the next whistleblower not protected?
Well, basically, my question would be: when it comes to the Department of Defense or State Department, is it now legal to even be a whistleblower?
Or have they kind of drawn a line around it and said, hey, if you're working for us, this is secret.
This is where it's going.
And so the only path is how do you get Congress to take up a topic and then have hearings and investigation?
And that's got to be done privately.
But if you go public and you go, if it's whistleblowing, hey, I saw something, I've seen it, and you make stuff public, you're dead.
But if you say, hey, I'm whistleblowing and I'm cooperating with Congressional Committee and speaking to the select committee in closed hearings, that's the only way to do it.
They've just made whistleblowing, you know, nearly illegal and more difficult.
10x.
Well, we've had some whistleblowers on the show before.
There was the January 6th guys, I think we talked about right there.
They were agents.
You know, everything was Boeing.
We talked about the Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989 that protects whistleblowers from potential attacks that you're talking about right there.
So there's going to be a president here.
The one thing I'll tell you is that he's not an American citizen.
So I don't know how that registers in all this, but the whole premise of that whistleblower protection acts was to prevent retaliation against whistleblowers who are essentially calling out wrongdoings, right?
So we'll see what happens.
Why is a whistleblower holding up a document stamped secret?
That's different.
That's the problem.
That's where you get into espionage, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think it's going to.
Do you notice a pattern with Snowden or Julian Assange with certain personality and wiring that they have?
You really think they're going to, a true whistleblower is not going to come out and blow the whistle of something that's going on because they're worried about whether they're going to be protected or not?
You really think a lot is not going to come out?
They want to expose the truth.
They have a cause.
Yeah.
Listen.
True believers are not looking for money to become famous and rich, man.
I mean, true believers are not, you know, we're not doing value tapement because we need to make more, you know, like, hey, let's go make some more money doing valutainment.
We've been set with what we're doing.
Doing because a book was written called Choose Your Enemies Wisely, because an enemy pissed off a guy who loves America, who wants to see America stay great, and we are finding each other and we're fighting.
We can sit here.
The only reason money needs to be made in the concept of capitalism is for you to be able to fund some of the stuff that you're doing, right?
But for a whistleblower that's like, man, if the world only knew how dirty these people are, you would never look at them the same way.
And when you have access to that information and every day you're checking email and you're like, dude, that guy's really, you really watch this stuff?
Like, imagine you're working for a boss, okay?
And you're his executive assistant.
And he asks you to follow up on emails.
You go on the email and you go to the history.
And his history clear for three, four, five, six months.
And you see child porn.
Jail.
But hear me out for a second.
You see child porn over and over and over and over and over again.
You walk in on him.
This guy's not a friend of yours.
He's just your boss, somebody you're working for.
What are you going to do?
If it's my boss?
I mean, honestly, what are you going to do?
Honest to God, I would report him 1,000.
Like, I would care less.
I don't care what position my job is in.
In my heart of hearts, I would 100% report him to the authorities.
100%.
But here, okay, so then go and see what if, what if your best friend that you have, what if this guy is got a, you know, brings 15, 16-year-old girls to his office continuously, and you're like, bro, what are you doing?
And this is, you've caught him four, five, six times over the last three years.
What are you going to do?
One time is too much.
What the hell?
No, but what are you going to do then?
I mean, if it's a friend, and I mean, I personally wouldn't let never something like that get to four or five.
The first time, if I found out a friend and I'm being dead serious, you know if I'm telling the truth or not, I would beat the living shit out of him if I've caught my, if I caught a friend with a 15-year-old, I'm beating his ass and I'm calling the cops.
Okay.
Done deal.
So check this out.
Now, now, let me ask you, you're saying this, right?
And watch what's happening to you, right?
This is why the shirt angry patriot is the angry patriot, right?
So watch what happened to your emotions right now.
So now, let's actually flip it.
How many people you think in America right now have a job that they're seeing dark?
I'm not talking like, I'm talking dark stuff being done.
How many people do you think right now work for the U.S. government?
They work for the CIA, they work for the FBI, and they see certain decisions being made and they're like, oh man, that is, that is, you know, that is an illegal immigrant raped a 13-year-old.
Do not use the word illegal immigrant on this media platform.
We call them undocumented.
You cannot call them illegal.
This guy rapes and you're worried about the terminology.
Is this it, Rob?
Yes.
Can you play this clip, Rob?
Can you play this clip?
Immigrants were 37.1% less likely to be convicted of a crime.
Undocumented immigrants, and according to a survey, University of California Riverside study, 30% less likely to be in prison as undocumented.
I'm just giving the numbers.
What do you tell the parents of those people, those young girls who were killed?
But this is preponderance to be speaking.
But what is the difference between an illegal immigrant who unfortunately engages in that activity?
And we don't like that.
I want to be clear.
We don't do the term illegal.
Yeah, we don't.
Undocumented.
Undocumented.
They're illegal.
Undocumented and look at her faces.
Anyone else?
You can pause right there.
Did you see her face?
You know who those people are, right?
Well, number one, that is Michael Steele, the former chairman of the RNC.
So, I mean, he's, you know, establishment Republican, and that is Simone Sanders Townsend.
She is the Bernie Sanders campaign chair surrogate.
So worse.
You got to understand who you're basically talking to.
But the point is with whistleblower, if a whistleblower is working at the FBI and they're aware of what's going on, every night they go to sleep, they sit there saying, we're destroying this country for what?
For $100,000 a year?
$150,000 already as an FBI agent.
Every single time you see certain information with a fake dossier to destroy someone's political career and life, and his name is Donald Trump, you don't think people on the inside sit there and they're like, this is just not, there's a very big difference.
Like you got kids, okay?
What do parents teach their kids about snitching?
What do you say snitching on your kids?
The snitches get stitches.
But how do you as a parent teach snitching to your kid?
Like tattletailing on your own.
Tom, how do you teach snitching to your daughter?
Like, do you got two girls?
One of them comes up to you.
Don't snitch on your sister.
How do you teach snitching to your kids?
Well, there's two sides to it.
The first side is if somebody's doing something that is harmful or wrong, then it needs to be brought forward.
But if you act politically, and we talk about this, what is politics?
Well, politics is a game of gotcha.
And you're bringing up little tiny things at the right moment to get someone in trouble and to sway things, then what you're really trying to do is to sway my opinion or to create problems for the person.
You're not caring about your sister in such a way to say, hey, I got to bring this up because this is not good.
This is not good for her.
This is not good to do.
There is a big difference between, hey, I need to bring this up because this isn't good versus you're bringing little things up at the right time and the right way to get somebody poked.
Yeah.
So, I mean, you know, how are you going to teach your kids about snitching?
Let's just say you got three kids, Vinny.
One of them is doing cocaine.
Do you want the other two know?
Do you want them to tell you about it?
100%.
If one of the kids is doing cocaine, I want to know, but I want them to understand that we have a relationship where I'm going to be like, I'm not going to go outright and be like, hey, I heard from, no, I'm going to figure out a way to touch them or figure out a way that they're doing cocaine.
I'm not going to be like, because then there goes that relationship between the brother and the sister.
If you tell them, like I remember as a kid, if we ratted on each other, it was fighting for a month, we'd beat the hell out of each other because the other person told, that's where he was.
This is what he was doing.
That's a delicate situation.
But in this situation, it's a similar story.
It's whistleblowing.
It's a form of whistleblowing.
So there's levels to whistleblowing.
There's levels to what you should say.
So to me, I think they can do all they want to make an example of Julian Assange, a true whistleblower who thinks long-term and sister and says, you know what?
There's no way I'm going to let this happen.
They're destroying a great nation.
I'm going to come out and talk about it.
I think a true whistleblower is not going to hold back.
The thing that I think we should just keep in mind, though, what are some synonyms for being a whistleblower?
What does it actually mean?
Exposing the truth, disseminating what is actually right, disclosing information that is 100% needed to be disclosed, revealing, exactly.
So the term whistleblowing is a good term in theory.
It's just, it's a complicated one.
Yeah.
And if you think about it, you nailed it.
The dossier and how many FBI agents, out of all those FBI agents, none of them said anything?
What were the two that we had in here?
What did they expose?
The border?
Out of all the FBI, out of all of Homeland Security, out of all these people, we're getting one, maybe two, maybe three.
If I was seeing that, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing that, like, if I work for the Department of Homeland Security, the border is wide open and women, I don't care what people say, oh, they're isolated incidents.
No, no.
Women are young girls are getting raped and murdered in this country.
The other day, there was two of them that lured this 12-year-old under the bridge, raped her, and then killed her.
They were just in court yesterday.
You're not going to open your mouth to be like, guys, I've worked there.
This is what's happening.
We have to expose the truth.
You have to do it, or else how do you sleep at night?
That's what I think.
I think it's not an easy thing on where to be comes with the job.
But I think the true whistleblower who is seeing some of this stuff is not going to let it go.
They're going to say stuff.
This is the one you're talking about.
Illegal Emily Room is Jocelyn.
Yeah.
Underbridge assaulted her.
And they recorded it too.
Two hours before killing her.
They recorded it.
They recorded it too.
They recorded the thing.
They handcuffed her arms behind her back as they sexually assaulted her.
Are you kidding me?
A 12-year-old girl.
By the way, this is happening almost every other day.
We keep hearing stories like this.
And the people that are like working under Alejandro, the rat myorcus, come on, man.
Like everybody, if you see it, you got to say something.
It's a travesty.
I know.
That is a travesty.
Okay.
Well, may she rest.
Yes.
May she rest in peace.
And our condolences goes out to the family.
Gang, what's the next one we're doing, Rob?
Tomorrow, 9 a.m. Ice Cube.
And then Thursday.
Thursday is what?
Home team live in the morning.
And then we have the debate watch party that Friday night is a debate watching.
Thursday night.
Thursday night.
Oh, so we're doing home team in the morning and we're doing reaction at home.
