Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team react to the third GOP presidential debate. Biggest winners and losers, most significant takeaways.
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Podcast episode 325.
Let me kind of get into a couple things that happened last night.
We were at the GOP debate last night.
We went with a whole crew.
It was the four of us.
It was in Miami.
I thought it was the best set they had out of every single one of them.
We've been to Milwaukee, Ronald Reagan.
We will not be at the Bama one, but we were at Milan.
Why not?
The set was insane.
And what the media is saying was very different than what the vibe was when you were there.
Matter of fact, I ran a poll last night, okay?
We got a bunch of other stories we'll talk about here, but I ran a poll last night on who won the debate.
Now, when you look at this poll, this is 144,000 votes.
So it's not like it's 500 votes.
It's not 5,000 votes.
It's not 50,000 votes.
It's a good amount of people to measure it with.
144,000.
That's a very good sample size.
Sample size.
Tim Scott, 2.2.
Nikki Haley, 4.4.
Ron DeSantis, 10.3.
Vivek came out 83% on this poll.
Okay.
Fine.
So you look at this, you're like, okay, is this exactly how the audience saw it as well?
Rob, if you can pull up the opening, Vivek's opening on how he, you know, just absolutely shook the place up with his opening statement and what he said.
If he can just find out while you're doing that, I want to read my recap from what I had from being at this debate.
Hang on one second, Rob.
Let me find this here.
Yeah, if you can't find it.
First, I'll play this clip and then we'll go through Rudrique.
Let's play this clip.
Watch this.
Why should you be the nominee and not the former president?
I think there's something deeper going on in the Republican Party here, and I am upset about what happened last night.
Wait for it.
We've become a party of losers at the end of the day.
Is it cancer, the Republican establishment?
Speak the truth.
I mean, since Ronald McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017, we have lost 2018, 2020, 2022, no red wave that never came.
We got trounced last night in 2023.
And I think that we have to have accountability in our party.
For that matter, Ron, if you want to come on stage tonight, you want to look the GOP voters in the eye and tell them you resign, I will turn over my yield my time to you.
And frankly, look, the people there are cheering for losing in the Republican Party.
Think about who's moderating this debate.
This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Elon Musk.
We'd have 10 times the viewership asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about and bringing more people into our party.
Getting the Democrats, and we've got Kristen Walker here, giving the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld to host a Democratic debate.
They wouldn't do it.
And so the fact that, I mean, Kristen, I'm going to use this time because it's actually about you in the media and the corrupt media establishment.
Ask you the Trump-Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for years.
Was that real or was that Hillary Clinton made up disinformation?
Answer the question.
Go.
Yeah.
Look at her face.
Look at her face.
This is how we count you.
Yeah.
I don't want to be here.
We need accountability because this media rigged the 2016 election.
They rigged the 2020 election with the Hunter Biden laptop story.
And they're going to rig this election accountability.
Let me turn to Governor.
Governor Christie.
Why are you going to be able to do that?
Okay, I can pause it right there.
When he gave that speech, the place went insane.
Is that fair to say?
Yeah, he went straight savage mode off top.
We were sitting with the folks at Rumble.
To our right was the Haley camp.
Haley Camp was, you would know it's a Haley camp.
Anytime Haley said anything, they would scream off the top of their lungs.
Yeah, there we go.
DeSantis was on the other side, and they had different folks that was there.
Now, here's the thing: the whole thing, if you go a little lower, I think he is speaking to Ron.
If you go a little lower, right after the debate was done, Ronna McDaniel's story came out that she called him an asshole or something.
She called him scum.
No, no, no.
Haley called him scum.
Haley called him scum.
She called him an asshole.
That's correct.
That's the story.
She called him an asshole afterwards.
And that was the nicest thing.
She says this is done.
He will not get anything from us or any kind of money, whatever was some kind of a statement being said.
Not a sentence.
And people in that area heard what she had to say.
So that was pretty intense right there, okay?
On what happened.
Now, my thoughts, and then we'll go into conversations and different things.
Here's what I think happened.
If you go to my tweet, Rob, yeah, there you go.
He's not going to get a cent from us.
Look at this.
He's an asshole.
Total asshole.
He will not get a cent from us.
She said this at the debate, and others heard her saying this.
Okay.
So he not only goes after the establishment RNC, okay, Ronna McDaniel, went after establishment mainstream media, okay, calling out in their face, go, right?
And afterwards, he went after Haley.
He went after a bunch of different people he went after.
And at the same time, he was yet a synergist.
So for me, the winner at the top was Vivek.
Not only was a unanimous winner, if you can go to the tweet, my GOP breakdown, if you can break it down, go to one of the tweets.
You'll see it.
I think it's the one that reads the whole thing.
Yeah, go to it right there if you can show more.
So not only was Vivek the unanimous winner, a star was born today.
He shined.
He was loose.
He was comfortable yet intense.
He even gave credit to DeSantis and Tim Scott multiple times.
A good balance between a fighter leader and a synergist.
He kept going on to DeSantis on each break.
You guys may have not seen this, but while we're there, every single, there was three breaks.
Every break, Vivek went to DeSantis and spoke to him for 90 seconds.
Out of the three and a half minute break they had, he would speak to DeSantis until DeSantis would walk away.
It was a sign of being a synergist.
He kept giving different perspectives, changing definitions of overdose to terrorist poisoning when they talked about fentanyl and all these other things.
Rob, if you can go a little lower with that, he was so captivating that if you watch the replay, you'd notice even his opponents were impressed with him.
His opponents were watching him.
Now, DeSantis, last week when DeSantis was on our podcast, it was the highest score he got off searches on Google.
If you can bring that up, I don't know if you saw the data or not.
I'll show it to you right now.
Does the DeSantis camp know that?
I'm sure Brian is a sharp guy.
He's a sharp guy.
He knows data.
Last week when he was on, if you go to his Google score, Brandon sent it to you.
Is that the one?
What date is that?
That is the one.
No, that's not the one.
Because that's all three.
If you just go to the one where he was on the debate, it's not working if you just press retweet, refresh it.
No, that's the debate.
Go back to the other one.
Then it's the other one, Rob.
Yeah, look at this one.
Highest score.
Look where Ron goes.
Bingo.
At the highest.
He hits the 100 mark.
He was one of the most trending words on all of Google.
So look at this.
Blue being Haley.
And then red as Vivek.
For that entire two weeks, Vivek was rarely being Googled.
But after our podcast, that's the day he was here on October 30th.
Boom, on fire.
That's awesome.
So go back to the tweet.
So DeSantis, for me, believe it or not, was the most poised I've seen him.
I thought he was the most comfortable he's been.
He's seen presidential.
He was even funny and loose at times.
And I actually liked listening to his perspective, you know, on DeSantis.
I thought out of three debates, this was the best one.
Haley was favored to win, in my opinion, but she seemed a little rattled and upset.
She even called him a scum.
I mean, the guy didn't say anything to you about the fact that your daughter's on TikTok.
And why are you calling him a scum?
It's a valid question he's asking.
It's as if she came with an agenda and Vivek disrupted her.
Like, you have a game plan for your game, and the opponent completely throws you off your game plan.
I think Vivek did that to her.
She's by far the best at giving data, but she was a bit off yesterday.
Mainstream media won't agree with me on that.
Christy didn't call out Vivek or anyone else like he did in the first two debates.
It's as if he wants to potentially go and back somebody up so he didn't want to piss anybody else off.
This was probably his last debate.
Tim Scott got the most speaking time out of everybody.
I even said right there, Tim Scott got a ton of speaking time, but I found myself thinking, I'm at church instead of a debate.
Seems like a very nice guy, but way too bland.
And this was the best out of three debates.
I thought moderators did okay.
But yeah, so if you go to the media and see who was the winners and losers, guess what most websites will say the loser was?
Vivek.
Yeah, weird.
What?
Isn't that weird?
If you go to, okay, go to the loser of the go to any one of them.
Everybody has Vivek as the loser.
Winners and losers from the debate.
Let's see what Hill's going to say.
And the Hill's a pretty credible source, would you say?
Who do they have as their winners and losers?
Ron DeSantis, keep going.
Do they have it categorized as a winner and a loser?
Anyways, you talked about it.
You're just a scum.
So they gave it to her.
DeSantis, winner.
And then go to loser all the way at the bottom.
Donald Trump, winner.
Look at the first loser.
Keep going.
Makes loser number one.
Get out of here.
Ramaswamy's two most memorable moments of the night were both bad ones for him.
The attack on Haley's daughter was the worst.
And the misstep also seemed virtually guaranteed to earn the animity of suburban women voters whom the GOP badly needs to win.
Okay.
Ramaswamy's other big moment came when he called Ukraine's president Vladimir Zelensky a Nazi.
I don't even remember that.
And I do remember it.
But it's interesting how the media sees this versus everybody else.
So what was yours, Tom, when you were there last time?
Who did you think was the winner?
I thought Vivek came out and showed himself very well.
I thought America appreciates it when you walk out front and you defend your kids, especially if your kids are being unjustly accused.
America admires those Armenian moms that went to the city school board meeting in Glendale, California.
And I think there's a lot of Americans judged by, I did a small poll, only had about 600 votes, but it was the same thing.
It was 90% for Vivek.
I think he came out.
He showed himself very, very well.
And I thought he was the strong performer.
And I really thought that Nikki Haley was really good coming up with the stats, pulling the stats out of her head and responding to points.
But she didn't look like poised and smooth doing it.
Looked a little like off a step, like, you know, like a defender who's off a step under the basket and they're trying to catch up to the play.
That's kind of the way I felt about her.
And I agree with you.
I thought DeSantis looked presidential.
And in the words of one of the three women at my house, boy, he finally looked like a candidate.
Who disagrees with me?
Adam, who was yours?
Who did you see like way ahead?
Were you also Vivek?
Like, who did you see?
Well, when we did the predictions yesterday, I had Vivek.
You did have Vivek.
I did have Vivek.
I think most of you guys had Vivek.
You had Ron.
Okay.
Bro, it wasn't even close.
Tim Scott snoozed fast.
Literally, people were sleeping when he was speaking.
And his two highlights when he talked about boys should play sports against boys.
That's great.
Christy, actually, for a guy that when we were in California, he had good jokes and energy.
Was taught Donald Duck and whatever.
He was just kind of just lame.
I don't know.
Ron, we've said the same thing over and over and over against Ron.
Great policy guy, poised.
I get it.
A little bit higher, taller in person than with the boots and all that.
But he just doesn't have that it factor, that Riz.
Nobody's like, oh, shit.
Did you hear what Ron said?
He just doesn't have it.
No.
Great governor.
I just don't think he's ready for the world stage.
Nikki, poised, confident, just way too war hawkish for most people.
I mean, she's ready to go to war in Taiwan with China.
She's ready to go into Ukraine, Israel.
I mean, she's looking for fights.
But at the end of the day, I think we saw what Vivek did, came out the gates in the first debate, guns blazing.
Second debate, when we were there, we're like, what happened to Vivek?
This third debate, I don't know what got into him.
I don't know who spoke to him.
Could have been PBD.
I don't know.
I think it was Pat.
Homeboy said, all right, bro, I'm just coming out savage mode.
Here's something interesting about Ronna McDaniel.
So if you ever knew anything about the RNC, who was the previous chairman of the RNC?
It was Reince Prieves.
So he was aligned with Trump.
He was a Trump guy.
He was the chief of staff first six months of Trump's White House campaign.
He was feuding with Scaramucci and Bannon.
He was out.
Previous to that was Michael Steele.
He's now an MSC, MSNBC contributor.
But Ronna McDaniel, he basically looked at her.
She gave a speech at the beginning of the show.
Do you remember?
That was her.
Yeah, of course.
Here's the thing about her.
Do you know what her maiden name is?
Take a guess.
Maiden name.
Maiden name.
She's an RNC chick.
Yes.
I won't even give it.
What?
You're not bad.
You're not close.
Ronna Romney McDaniel.
She's from the Romney family.
Did you know that?
Mitts.
Yeah, she's related to Mitt.
So she's establishment as it gets.
Now, if we know anything about Vivek, my final point, homeboy's anti-establishment.
He's smart.
He's capable.
He's opinionated.
He's savvy.
He'll show up anywhere.
He showed up, foot-planted in the middle of the RNC and was like, check this thing out.
And just went guns ablaze.
So to me, he was undoubtedly the winner of the night.
And it's no wonder that mainstream media has him as a loser.
Mitt Romney is her uncle.
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Anybody that names their son a sporting equipment?
Mitt, it's just whatever, buddy.
But listen, obviously, Vivek.
I mean, I'm not surprised.
A Mitt, sports equipment?
You put your base on it.
Tom, man.
You went to college.
You don't know what a Mitt is?
Tom, you're a picture dual guy.
Jeez, thanks for thanks, Tom.
Anyway, back when I went to college.
Vivek came out like Mike Tyson.
First round, knockout, crapped on everybody.
He didn't, dude, male, female, he doesn't care.
And I respect it, but I think, Pat, right off the rip, the fact that he called out the media, I think that had a play in the fact that they went to Christie a lot and they went to Tim Scott a lot, right?
Called out Chris and welcomed her face.
White face smiled.
She didn't know what to do.
She was shell shock.
But Pat, you know, I saw Vivek do?
He showed Trump, and this is why they're all going to go after him.
That's why he's not winning on no leftist polls.
He had that Trump attitude.
But he's not winning on Republican polls.
What was that thing that we saw?
Fox didn't have him as the winner.
Fox said he lost.
To me, they're still all established.
Nikki Haley, all them.
Everything was war.
Everything was everybody else first.
Vivek put us first.
And that's the same attitude as Trump, Pat.
That's why they do not want anybody like that.
He didn't put Russia first.
He didn't put Ukraine.
He didn't talk about nobody, no Israel, no nobody.
He said America first.
And that's why nope, he's not winning anywhere because you know this, Pat.
You put us first and you looked upon like you're insane because you're supposed to love everybody except us.
So I got a question for you.
So last night, Robert's with us.
You know, Roberts always got a different lens.
R.O.?
Yeah, R-O.
So the entire time, I'm like, why do they keep going with Tim Scott?
And I kept turning around.
I won't pop.
Like the guys, this guy on 2.0, he speaks too slow.
We just noticed it upstairs.
We're watching him on 2.0 on YouTube.
And it's like as if he's absolutely anti-communist.
Can you show up the CNN numbers?
Can you show up the CNN numbers?
Check this out.
Who spoke the most and the least, okay?
Okay.
The most last night was Tim Scott and then Haley and then Vivek and then DeSantis and then Christie.
Okay, I understand Christie.
Why the hell would Tim Scott speak the most?
So then Rob says maybe because NBC is doing it intentionally to make the show be so boring that Americans don't watch it.
I agree.
Okay.
Maybe it was an intentional way of getting people to say, I can't listen to this anymore.
Move away.
Do you think NBC is that dumb to realize that in a business of capitalism, if your sponsors that are paying you millions of dollars don't get a lot of eyeballs are going to be okay with you giving it to the person like what the audience wants to see a fight between Haley and Vivek?
Put the top three.
The top three should have been who?
Haley, DeSantis, and Vivek.
Tim Scott should be all the way at the bottom, even below Christie is where he should have been.
I agree.
Do you think there was any motives in them giving Tim Scott the most eyeballs?
Absolutely, because I don't think the producers and the political writers and the political commentators and Lester Holt himself, I don't think they give a rip on this particular show what the corporate guys are looking at in terms of ad dollars.
They're going to promote it.
They're going to get the best viewership they can.
But if they, I think if they detect momentum in that show, they will go away from the momentum.
And I felt like, didn't it feel like that after seven minutes, they kind of pulled away from Vivek?
And they also said, also, unlike other debates, if someone says your name or makes an accusation, you do not get an automatic 30 seconds.
Remember that?
They did say that at the beginning.
They were saying that almost trying to kind of control the flow.
And so I think they absolutely gamed it a little bit.
I agree 100%.
And like Brandon was talking about polls, Pat, I don't listen to any polls, the same polls that had Hillary at 99%.
Pat, you're a Democrat.
Let me ask you the question.
Right now, you're a registered Democrat lifelong Trump hating.
It's going to be tough.
Yeah, no, it's going to be hard.
So, Pat, you saw this debate in that lens as a Democrat out of everybody here, who would you want if you had to pick, if you had to be like, all right, I'll deal with this.
So you want a weak team to play in the Super Bowl.
Well, basically what I'm saying is, Pat, because they know like Biden, whatever.
Chris Christie would be my number one.
Chris Christie would be one.
Because he hates Trump.
And if I'm a Democrat, I want to hear anybody that's trashing Trump the most.
It's him.
Then who I would probably want to hear is Haley because she's at least a woman.
And her position on pro-life, pro-choice is the best one amongst everybody.
Then I would probably listen to Tim Scott.
Then I would probably listen to DeSantis.
And Vivek would be the most annoying person on that stage if I'm a Democrat.
100%.
Yes or no?
1,000%.
Yeah.
1,000%.
I would fully agree with you.
I would just swap Vivek and DeSantis.
I don't think Democrats have any love for DeSantis.
Well, you don't think so?
Overview?
I think that's the only thing that's important.
The only reason Vivek is top is because it's a six-week abortion.
The only reason I put Vivek at the top is because Democrats can't stand capitalists in the, you know, made your own money, calling out bullshit, anti-establishment.
DeSantis didn't, even that day when we had him on the podcast, I said, look, you're like a hybrid.
Some people think you're establishment, you know, and that's kind of where you are.
He didn't really correct me.
And even in my intro, he corrected me twice.
So that is the one area he didn't correct me about establishment.
He just kind of let that one go.
You were going to say something, Tom.
Yeah, I think what the Democrats don't want, they do not want successful people of color.
They want entitled people of color.
Full stop.
They don't want successful people of color.
No, they don't want to go against Vivek.
Vivek becomes a symbol.
Makes sense now, Tom.
No, yeah.
Vivek becomes exactly what they don't want.
You know, people who are Democrats who are just there casually haven't really thought it over.
Looking at the economy.
Rob, play the clip off TikTok.
Play this clip off TikTok.
Check this out.
I just texted it to you.
You should have it.
This is the actual exchange between the two of them when, what do you call it?
When Vivek calls out Nikki Haley's daughter, and just look at Nikki Haley's eyes.
She is not happy.
Watch this.
Go forward.
Ramaswamy, we've talked about this.
You campaign on TikTok.
How do you get TikTok banned if you use it?
Well, I want to laugh at why Nikki Haley didn't answer your question, which is about looking at families in the eye.
In the last debate, she made fun of me for actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time.
So you might want to take care of your family first.
Leave my daughter out of your voice.
You have her support.
Profitable.
Should have bombed this country.
Here's the truth.
The easy answer is actually to say to us and ban one.
We got to go further.
We have to ban any U.S. company actually transferring U.S. data to the Chinese.
Here's a story most people don't know.
Airbnb hands over U.S. user data to the CCP.
Now, that's a U.S.-owned company.
So this is the problem when you have Republicans that temporarily go the way the winds blow.
And now it's popular to talk tough on China when she was U.N. ambassador, called them literally her words, not my our great friend.
You can't be fair weather fans of the right policy.
Get to the root cause.
Even U.S. companies in Silicon Valley are regularly doing it.
Cut the virtue signaling.
The fact of the matter is Democrats are on TikTok today.
The only person, one of the few people who is putting up content the way the actual algorithms work, speaking for pro-Israel views or others, more Republicans will join it.
And by the way, stop U.S. companies from turning over data to Chinese companies.
Daughter relates her to the first time.
By the way, and think about it.
You think of her daughter.
What do you think?
You think she's a child?
Eight years old?
No, she's 25 years old.
It's not like she's a kid.
Talk about my daughter.
She's an adult.
Good to know.
she's on it and it's all i mean it's all good but it's like i don't mean it like that Phineas, check this out.
I assume that she had younger kids.
I don't know why.
As soon as you hear, don't talk about my kid, you think it's an eight-year-old that's watching people falling on by.
She's like, she's an adult.
It's a child, but she's still, you know, she's an adult.
Meaning, she doesn't have any right to tell her daughter what to do or not to do.
She's 25 years old.
She'll be where the hell are she wants.
But just at the end of the day.
Look at Joe Biden, Hunter Biden.
You think he told him to smoke crack?
Maybe.
But it's funny to see how what one side thinks the winner is and what they're pushing on it.
I'm going to show you guys what New York Times did and how they ranked Vivek.
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Rob, did you get what I just texted you there with the picture or no?
Rob, did you see that or no?
I did not.
Okay, so check this out.
I'm going to send this to you.
This is New York Times.
This just tells you how they're doing this and how they're giving credit to who and who they don't like.
Obviously, New York Times.
Who do you think they picked as the winner?
New York.
New York Times.
New York Times.
Who do you think they picked as the winner?
New York Times will give like a Chris Christie the winner.
I would say Ron Ron the same.
I'm not going to say anything because I read it.
Okay, so let's show this, Rob.
Let's show this, Rob.
What do you think?
I'll go wrong.
What do you think?
I said Christie.
He says Christie.
Ron Hussain.
It's probably Haley, though.
Okay, who do you think they have last?
Vivek.
Okay, I want you to see this.
Rob, is it pulling up or no?
It's not.
Okay, let me do it this way here for you to see it because it's very, very interesting to me how nobody picked this guy.
And they straight up are, because now here's the other question you got to ask, because it's easy to be like, well, you know, they're idiots and their establishment, all this other stuff.
There's many times like, you know, these guys are not saying Trump's not the winner.
Okay, look at that.
New York Times right there.
Okay.
Haley.
Winner.
Then they have, it's from right to left.
So you see the 10 on the bottom is that did better?
Yeah.
So Haley's first.
What?
Then it's DeSantis.
Then it's Christie.
Then Tim Scott, last Vivek.
They gave him a two.
They gave him a two.
Who do you think is doing this poll?
New York?
Centrist?
This is a freaking leftist.
But that's not the point.
The same people have Trump all the way as the winner, meaning it's not even cool.
Even CNN is like, look, this is not even a race.
Trump's got a 40-plus point lead.
All these other guys are fighting for the silver medal.
Why is Vivek last?
Why, Tom?
Why is Vivek last on these polls?
F-E-A-R.
Fear.
I believe that that is the kind of snap and gumption that they don't want to face.
I honestly believe that that is the, I think they see in that little bits of thing.
Remember, the big surprises that have come out, we've only had one.
So in my lifetime, actually, I was barely born when Kennedy was elected, but I have been reading that there hasn't been a surprise candidate the way John Kennedy was until Barack Obama.
And I think that some people watching are thinking, man, this is the kind of guy that could be a surprise.
And they don't want anything to do with it.
And Pat, think about it.
The two things, the main things that I took away from him, too, he's 38 years old.
Okay, let's say, obviously, let's say Trump wins.
He'll be 42 when the next time comes around.
He's anti-China.
He wants to hold China accountable.
And guess what?
He's the only one that was like anti-war.
Everybody else on that stage was like, we got to get involved in this.
We got to go to Roger.
Everybody wanted to fight because that's where the money's at.
Is there any money in peace?
Do you think by the next election that China moves on Taiwan?
By the next one?
Yeah.
In this year?
Yeah.
I think so.
By 28.
I think so.
I like what you had to say.
Now you have a 42-year-old guy who's right about that.
100%.
So I think the fact that he's pro-America, anti-war, he's a threat.
There's no money in peace.
Watch this one.
Watch this exchange.
Go for it.
Republican Party is not that much better.
You have the likes of Nikki Haley, who stepped down from her time at the UN.
Bankrupt or in debt was her family.
Then she becomes a military contractor.
She joins the board of Boeing and otherwise, and is now a multi-millionaire.
So I think that that's wrong when Republicans do it or Democrats do it.
That's the choice we face.
Do you want a leader from a different generation who's going to put this country first?
Or do you want Dick Cheney in three-inch heels?
All right, Mr. Speaker.
We couldn't hear that.
I didn't hear that last line right there.
So two of them.
He did a job.
He did say it.
Three-inch heels.
Wow.
Well, Pat, you notice I said America first, and you cannot have that attitude here.
You can't.
And by the way, can you find her response?
Because she does respond to that.
See if it's on the bottom of the tweet, Rob.
Can you explain the response?
Nobody can explain the response.
I didn't get it.
But anybody that's a weapon or something like that.
Ammunition.
Ammunition.
Like, you're going to throw it.
No, she's.
She's just a weapon, yeah.
No, no, she said ammunition.
So is she going to throw up a shit?
Shoot you with it?
Like she says halfway on Saturday morning?
But I use it as ammunition.
Like a checkleta?
Well, you ever been kicked by one of those five-inch heels?
Oh, no, it's horrible.
Yeah, what do you mean?
I've been hit to the back.
Why have you?
I was on the floor, and the guy that I was fighting, his girlfriend, kicked me in the back for no reason.
No, I just happened to.
I had him walk up and down my back, but I had to take extra for that.
Tom.
Look, I think.
What did you say, Tom?
What did Tom?
You had to pay extra for the heel walk on the back.
I had him walk up and down my back, but I had to pay extra.
Tom, I knew you're some kinky thing.
Oh, you know he is.
Tom, do you have that or no?
Rob, do you have that clip or no?
Play that.
Go for it.
Here we go.
I'm going to say they're five-inch heels, and I don't wear them unless you can run in them.
What?
That was a call out with the Sands.
Two of you officers.
The second thing that I will say is: I wear heels.
They're not for a fashion statement.
They're for ammunition.
What we need to be doing for Iraq and Syria is.
If anybody can tell me what she meant by it, it's like, you know, reading a certain section of scripture, you don't understand it.
You're like, you go to Google, you're like, translation.
I still don't know what she meant by it.
Do you think she meant to say as a weapon?
She says, watch what I'm going to say.
You know how they say after school?
I'll see after school.
After debate.
Meet me after debate.
Yeah.
I think she's just such a war hawk that the first thing on her mind is a fight, is a war and just battle.
So she's like, heels?
All right, that's a weapon.
Ready to go.
So she goes to the war words, you know, guns, tanks, subs, ammunition.
Heels.
Pulls him out on her.
But her contracting, she made money.
She was on Boeing.
And he's giving stuff that you had no idea about.
Just back to Vivek real quick.
He's like basically the young brown skinny Trump.
That's exactly.
And he's a lot more palatable than Trump is as far as the abrasiveness.
I mean, for you, he is.
We love a crazy maniac.
All of a sudden, we, Vinny, you didn't like Trump four years ago, but okay.
You came around.
All right.
I didn't like Trump four years ago.
Yeah, now you're wearing Trump socks to debate.
It's cool.
You're on MAGA.
It's got you.
Adam, be honest.
Inside, you miss him.
Adam.
Adam.
I think secretly, hold on, hold on.
Whatever that's happening.
When he walked into the UFC, when he walked into the UFC, what did Adam turn into?
Adam was like, man, and look at this fight.
By the way, the best article here, very insightful.
Nikki Haley stopped when debate modere asks her to list some country she wouldn't invade.
Babylon B. That's so good.
Oh, Canada.
Yeah.
For anyone that hasn't been to a debate and seeing basically democracy work in front of you, it's actually amazing.
It was sick.
It feels really cool to be in a thing like this and just mixing it up.
We saw Mayor Suarez, shout out to him.
We saw Ruben, obviously the Rumble guys.
It's a really amazing feeling.
It was great.
To see this.
And this was by far and away so much better than the California debate.
That was a shit show.
Like, we could literally walk on stage.
Tom and I were on stage.
Yeah, at the end of the day.
We were 6th to stage.
We're sure everyone.
Madam Braylon.
We walked on stage and said hi to Vivek.
Oh, I remember you guys.
Can you imagine if you look closely, you guys are standing there suited up.
You have two little candidates.
This was so much more professional.
It was so much more just.
Adam, could we have taken selfies and remember taking selfies with Vivek?
I slapped Chris Christie on the ass in California.
What network?
I ended Mike Pence's campaign with a viral tweet.
You have a bigger hand than I thought.
What network was doing that one?
Do you remember?
Because this is NBC.
That was Univision.
Oh, Univision.
It's open borders.
Everybody gets stayed.
Hey, it's okay.
Come on, man.
Poor guy trying to start it.
Dude, you did?
Are you serious?
These guys had snipers.
This was NBC.
And then you have to listen.
Why don't we go to something like a little bit more lighter with what Hillary had to say here on the view?
Okay.
Motivational rap if he can play this.
When she speaks, it's just the world gets.
Her voice is like a soothing.
By the way, which voice can you go with for four years?
Rank it.
Hillary Clinton, Kamalo, or Nikki Haley.
You have to listen.
One of those three voices could be the president that you have to listen to for four years.
Is this the old Mary F. Kill game?
I'm just curious.
Which one is the least to the one that you're okay with?
I'll go.
Haley, Hillary, Kamala.
I cannot.
No, he said least.
Least Hillary Kamala.
Oh, no, Then I go the other way.
Kamala, Hillary, Haley.
I can't do Kamala.
I just can't.
Oh, my God.
That's what he says.
I can't do Kamala.
Wait.
Oh, my God.
This is a Haley-Hillary Kamala.
This is not all.
What's that?
Oh, my God.
It's like all horrible.
Okay.
I would rather die than listen to Hillary Clinton's voice than it'd be Kamala's cackle and then Nikki Haley third.
Oh my God.
Just you saying that really bothers me.
Sounds like a poll for Rob.
Haley doesn't have a.
What'd you say?
You're scum.
Scum.
Scum of the earth.
Here, let's listen to a pleasant voice.
Go ahead, Rob.
People would get legitimately elected.
And then they would try to do away with elections and do away with opposition and do away with a free press.
And you could see it in countries where, well, Hitler was duly elected, right?
And so all of a sudden, somebody with those tendencies, the dictatorial, authoritarian tendencies, would be like, okay, we're going to shut this down.
We're going to throw these people in jail.
And they didn't usually telegraph that.
Trump is telling us what he intends to do.
Wow.
And people believe her.
Is it over?
Well, he looked at her.
Didn't he look at her?
Wait a minute.
Didn't he look at her to debate and say, because you'd be in jail.
Oh, my God.
That was hands on.
That was one of the best moments in all of debates.
But it's like, I know Reagan had his moments, but that when Donald Trump, when she was like, you know, it's awfully good that somebody like with the temperament of Donald Trump isn't president of the United States.
Oh, please hear this, Pat, please.
Can we hear it?
Awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country.
Because you'd be in jail.
Exactly.
And he turns around.
That was the moment where his fate was sealed that they were going to throw his ass in jail.
100%.
Okay.
Just know that.
Such a good point.
Yeah, that was it.
That was it.
Because when you start saying things like that to establishment of Hillary Clinton, believe me, they're going to start digging up some things.
Oh, my God.
By the way, as far as the Kamala thing, look, Hillary, at least I would say she's smart.
Now, is she Machiavellian?
Is she sinister?
Is she up to no good?
She's not an idiot.
She's a triple word.
Not an idiot.
Kamala is not smart enough to even be Machiavellian.
Space.
She slept her way to the top in California, from what I hear.
Ask Judge Joe Brown.
We've heard of him.
He's actually the meme, right?
The guy with the black bar.
Isn't he the meme?
Go ahead, Tom.
Oh, my gosh.
Are we done on this question?
Everybody's going to be able to do that.
By the way, how many text messages did you get?
Like, super important message.
You have to see this.
Open it up now and you open it up.
Yeah, it's a guy who's like, it's that black dude with the.
And it's like, oh, my mom.
My mom texts me stuff.
I'm like, mom, what's your problem?
She's like, it's funny.
Open email.
I'm telling you that?
I don't know what I can add to that.
Nothing.
About three inches.
Whoa.
We were just talking about Kamala Hillary.
I think I think it's.
So you either have the unbearable or the Machiavellian, or you get the Warhawk.
And, you know, I go with the Warhawk, you know?
You want the Warhawk?
Isn't that between Haley and Clinton and Kamala?
Yeah, you said the least you wanted.
Who knows?
Who knows what's going to happen with what is, by the way, was Hillary promoting a book rob when she was on?
What was she promoting?
Was she promoting a documentary of, what was that?
I'm not sure.
Let me take a look.
I'll find out.
I thought it was like a documentary of how Jelaine Maxwell got killed.
Oh, she's actually live.
I'm sorry.
Well, she did.
I thought it was a future truth.
She is.
By the way, she's only in a fun fact, Pat, she's doing 20 years.
They just had an article that she's complaining about moldy food.
But isn't it crazy, though?
Epstein arrested, you know, suicided, and she's in jail forever.
But what about all the clients?
Are they not going to care about going after all these clients that were using all these underage people that they were having sex with?
Are we not going to go after that list?
What are you talking about?
That's Whitney Webb's job.
No, what I'm saying is, Pat, so they caught the sex trafficking king guy, you know, Epstein Island.
He's gone, right?
They arrested her.
What about all the people that were their clients?
Are they not going to go after the book?
The black book?
The book.
I mean, there's a list.
Flight logs.
Yeah.
Well, are we not going to go after the people that use their services?
Who's we?
What do you mean?
America.
The government.
I mean, I'm just waiting.
Like, where are the arrests?
I know the prince, what was his name?
Was it Albert?
Prince William.
Who's the one that got in trouble?
Prince Andrew.
Prince Andrew.
Yeah.
And the Queen was like, you know what his punishment was?
You know what his punishment was for being with the underage girl?
You're losing your royal privileges.
People aren't going to call you whatever in public.
We still got to go after those people.
Check this out.
Here's the CNN one where he's, they're not going to, this is not the whole clip.
Where he's talking, what's this girl's name on CNN?
What's her name on CNN?
That's Dana Bash.
Dana Bash.
Dana Bash.
Dana Bash on CNN.
And they're talking to Vivek.
And it's like, well, you know, this is why this is.
And she's like, that's not true.
That's not been verified.
That's not.
How do you know?
It's so funny that they really don't like this guy.
No, she's got her producer in the ear denying these things and spinning.
And yeah, because he's talking about what, Pat?
He's talking about Joe Biden.
Because he basically said last night, Joe Biden, he goes, we're not stupid.
We all know, including the left, Joe Biden is not running.
Just be honest.
It's going to be Gavin Newsome.
Or he even said Michelle Obama at one point, didn't he?
This is it, Pat?
This is the one.
How many seconds is that?
No.
Yeah, play this one?
Go ahead.
Play this one.
This is the one.
But what I'm saying is, as a Republican candidate, I can't just call out Democrats and their corruption.
I've called out the Hunter Biden corruption from Ukraine and the $5 million bribe.
Look at her.
And I will continue to do that.
There's no evidence as far as he was paid a $5 million bribe from Burisma.
Well, if he was, that's corrupt.
She factories.
But if he was, but I just want you to make an allegation where there's no evidence that if our Daniel Dale literally just talked about this on the air.
Absolutely.
What would you say?
Here's what you say.
What proof did you have one for three and a half years?
You said there's 100% proof about Russia Kalusha.
Well, she's like, I factor.
You did that.
Go ahead.
I go the other way.
I say, what proof you have?
It wasn't a bribe.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead, Ra.
Evidence and testimonial evidence to suggest it.
You have U.S. senators saying they've received information.
The investigations are proceeding as we speak.
But that is corruption in the Democratic Party that I have called out.
And I think what deserves to be called out the Republican Party is that there's no evidence.
No, I've not even said that.
No, you're not.
Los Angeles evidence.
Well, look, Chuck Grassley, asked Chuck Grassley for the actual recordings that are actually turning over from people.
We have him.
Nobody has seen it.
Yeah, yeah, look at her.
Look at her.
Why haven't they released it?
And I think whether it's one thing I was just saying is bipartisan points.
Shut up.
Whether you're Joe Biden or Nikki Haley, release your tax returns.
Be completely open about where you've made your money.
The American people deserve to know.
I did something early in this campaign that, frankly, people in both parties should be doing.
I put out 20 years of tax returns.
I understand why people don't do it.
But that's the kind of honesty we need in both parties.
Wow, he put 20 years out of his taxes?
Yeah, he put it out.
They were asking him the other day, hey, why'd you make $800,000 and you asked for a scholarship?
Why would you ask for a scholarship when you got an $800,000?
He says, you ever worked in private equity?
You ever worked in investment banking?
You get your bonuses end of the year.
When I applied, I didn't have any money.
I didn't have the bonuses.
Yeah, but the year before, you made $200,000 and he's going to, yeah, I made $200,000 a year before.
I didn't make $800,000.
But he's just straight up openly talking about it.
I love him.
By the way, you know his net worth, allegedly?
Six?
$800 million.
By age 38, dude.
Guy's a beast.
There are so many reasons why the establishment would hate a guy like this.
Young, confident, went to the schools they went to, took the debate classes, knows exactly the game they play, has his own money, doesn't need your money, doesn't need your endorsement, went to podcasts, didn't need mainstream media.
He went from podcast to mainstream media inviting him.
It's an ideal candidate for the establishment to not like that.
Yeah, they think they've seen the movie before with Obama, and it makes them nervous.
And speaking of establishment, Dana Bash, I mean, she's one of the faces of CNN.
By the way, you know who she was married to, Jeremy Bash.
That's what she got her name.
Jeremy Bash was the chief of staff of the CIA initially.
This was in the early 2000s.
Then she married John King, who's one of the more politically savvy guys on CNN.
Now she co-hosts State of the Union with Jake Tapper.
Yeah, she's a hacker.
I'm not going hack.
I'm just saying she's part of the establishment.
An establishment hack.
Bro, for her to cut him off, like at this point, it's completely obvious what Hunter and Joe Biden were doing.
And if you try to, like, she's cutting him off because she doesn't want the words to come out of his mouth.
We're not stupid.
They just sent subpoenas for Hunter, his brother, and one other guy.
But again, nothing's going to happen.
But the benefit brings up a really good point is that you could have anybody host this NBC debate.
And you go with Lester Holt.
Okay, he's kind of vanilla.
I mean, oddly enough, even though he's black.
And then you have Kristen Welker.
So, I mean, he does bring up a very good point that you could, like, would the DNC ever have Greg Gutfeld or Kennedy or Tucker ever host one of their debates?
No.
So I guess, you know, this isn't even cable.
This isn't CNN.
This is NBC.
This is as legacy mainstream media as it gets to host the RNC.
Interesting.
How much you think this format is going to be changed in the next four, eight, 12 years?
Or do you think 12 years from now is still going to be the same thing?
Oh, I'm fully convinced it's going to change.
In how long?
In four, eight, or 12 years.
I would say four years might be a little too soon.
I would say in the next eight to 10 years, this is going to be.
Well, look, if you look at it now, who was the broadcasting partner streaming partner?
It was Rumble.
Yeah.
Rumble.
We sat next to Chris and the whole Rumble team.
Shout out to those guys.
If you told me four years ago Rumble would be broadcasting the RNC, I'd be out of your mind.
Who the hell's Rumble?
But things are changing.
So I think in four years, it could be happening that quickly.
I think two things are going to change in four years.
I think you're going to see an evolution of the moderators.
And not because Vivek is suggesting it, but because people on podcasts are demanding it.
I think you're going to see moderators change.
I'd like to see you moderate.
I'd like to see Bill Rogan moderate.
I would not mind.
I'd like to see Tucker moderate.
I'd like to see a series.
So, I think moderators are going to change because people are demanding it, especially the people who are paying test podcasts.
Number one, number two, I think it's going to change is I think the timing and the venues.
This is pure establishment.
You walk in there and there's everybody from the RNC, everybody from the high-end donors.
I want to see bigger venues where more regular Americans can get in the door.
And I think you're going to see that change next time.
Those are my two predictions.
Check this out right here.
Rob just pulled it up: News Nation anchor Elizabeth Vargas and talk show host Megan Kelly will be the moderators at December 6th in Alabama.
And who's that?
Who's Freebearer?
Who's the other one, Pat?
Washington Freedom.
Ileana Johnson.
Ileano Johnson.
Washington Free Beacon is a very old but very small newspaper.
Oh, got you.
Well, I mean, because Megan Kelly covers, oddly enough, politics.
Three women, not a man, not a single man as the moderator.
That's so sexist.
I don't think I'm going to be able to watch it.
That is ridiculous.
So you really think they're going to go away from this?
This is the only way they're going to go away from this.
Here's what I think.
The only way they're going to get away from this format is if in the next four, eight years, there's such a massive disruption in cable news network with the kind of money they're making and big pharma ads going through where they can't afford to do it anymore that they're simply saying, you know what, we got to go digital.
Guess what?
We're going to do it this way.
But do you think it's going to be still the two-second, two-minute answers, the one-minute answers, the 90-second type of answers?
Or do you think it's going to be actually a long-form type of a debate?
Well, that's been debate format going back 150 years of college.
So the origin of this was the disciplined debate.
You know, you flip a coin, you draw straws, and then you read a single question.
You answer it, I rebut, and then you get a follow-up.
And you do that eloquently.
If you go back and look at Kennedy and Nixon, they did it very nicely.
Even Carter, you know, and Reagan did it nicely.
It got a little more out of hand, you know, Clinton's second term where people started interrupting each other, going a little crazy.
But that's been like debate class 101.
That's been the way we've taught debate a long time.
Make your point, receive a rebuttal, provide a follow-up, and then let the audience or the professor decide.
Meanwhile, while this is going on yesterday, Trump is giving a speech a couple miles away from where the GOP debate was.
In Ayalia.
Ayalia, packed, jam-packed place and taking shots left and right.
I think Sarah Huckabee spoke there.
I think Junior spoke there.
He was at the event.
And Junior made some go ahead.
He's funny.
Junior made a couple comments about, you know, what did he say about the lipstick and something else as well?
He got lipstick on his collar.
He got lipstick on his collar.
Just with my wife, it's okay.
What do you think Trump is thinking right now while he's watching this?
You think Trump is sitting there, you know, thinking to himself, okay, let me see who this guy, Vivek, is going to be.
You think Trump at all even has any thoughts of Vivek or Haley as someone that he would bring on his team?
That's a good question.
Well, because, Pat, isn't he right now with what's her name?
Carrie Lake.
He's with her.
And who else was he with?
He was with two Paulette.
He was with Paulette.
Yeah, Paulette was there.
But that's a very good question, Pat.
I think watching this, like you said this yesterday, too, he watches everything.
He keeps his foot to the fire and he's watching all these people.
I think in that group, he's trying to see who's at the Ron's not a dude.
None of them are threats.
But I do think after seeing what he consistently hears from Vivek and Vivek never bashing him, kind of sounding like him, I think it's Vivek or Kerry Lake to be like a vice president.
Dude, could you imagine Trump and Vivek as president and vice president, and then just follow his lead?
And then when Trump's gone for good, so I know Adam will be happy, then it'll be eight years of Vivek.
No, that would be, that would be amazing.
I don't see Vivek being a number two guy at this point, at this point.
I mean, he has come out and clearly said he's not a number two guy.
That's why he's running for the number one.
But he won't.
I think Kerry Lake is positioning herself as the next Mike Pence Trump sycophant.
But in this, whatever.
But in this situation, unless Trump gets kidnapped by aliens and he's gone, nobody's, there's no, everybody's number two.
So what is he?
You're saying like Vivek will just kind of chill out on the political?
Yeah, I just don't think he would be interested in being the vice president.
He said that.
I'm just using his words for him.
As far as what Trump is focusing on, I think there's in these three things in order.
Number one, rallies, campaigns.
He loves that stuff.
He's in Hialeah, sweating his ass off, just having the top of his life.
He loves the lotion falling.
That's number one.
Number two, I think, is the legal drama that he's dealing with.
I think that's number two.
And he dissent third is the JV Republican candidate debates.
I don't think he's really focused on it.
I think he knows he has it locked up unless the legal drama basically supersedes that.
My opinion.
I agree with much of that.
I think that if you narrow the field of VPs to only those who are on the stage last night, that Vivek's probably the only one that doesn't have so much broken glass that Trump wouldn't select him.
Yeah, Vivek has never said one bad thing about Trump.
Correct.
Ever.
Of the four on the stage, only Vivek, I think, is selectable.
Too much broken glass with everybody else.
But then going beyond it, there's Kerry Lake.
But I honestly think the VP would be something.
Trump is not, he is a pure alpha leader.
He selects a number two because they tell him he has to.
Otherwise, Trump just runs.
Right?
But sure, you need to have a vice president.
All right.
I'll be right back.
Yeah.
Okay.
I got one.
He's fabulous.
You haven't even seen this guy.
Not bad, Tom.
Not bad.
He's getting better, man.
Bill Clinton is still number one.
Not bad.
But I mean, seriously, I think that's how Trump runs.
And I think when it all comes to the end, he'll pick somebody.
He'll think about the states.
He'll take, you know, Don Jr. and other people kind of talking to him and he'll go.
But I'll tell you, the fact that there are that many people in Hialeah and the DNC and the Democrats, they better hope that these legal things stick because they're not dropping him in the polls.
You know, oh, he's down two points in the poll, two points 60 days before Iowa, and Iowa is in the bag.
That's like saying I won the football game by 26 instead of 28.
It doesn't matter.
You won and you said next.
But Tom, with the legal thing, I heard that he could still be in jail, felon, and still be the president.
So what's all this?
It's like, is there something in this legal proceedings that they could just grab one thing and say you cannot run as a president?
First of all, he's going to be guilty of a major felony.
Yeah, but, and that's in the polls, he's going to be able to do that.
No, what I'm trying to say is it doesn't disqualify him from running for president.
So what I'm saying is all this legal stuff that's happening, is there something either than a felony charge that sticks that could make him not run?
I don't think there's anything that can make him not run or win unless they put him in a cell.
No, there is something is not putting him on the ballot because you saw in Colorado that that was something they were contemplating.
Minnesota, the left-leaning state of Minnesota, they actually just approved him being on the ballot.
So they're doing everything they can to pull some shenanigans here.
Didn't Superior Court flip that back an hour later?
Oh, did they?
I thought that was.
I kind of just read the headline.
I missed, I guess, the subheadline.
Did they flip it again?
What's to say, Rob?
What's to say?
Even if Trump is convicted with 91 felony counts, 44 federal, 47 state, and stands charge, he is still qualified under the Constitution to run for and become the 47th president of the United States.
If he is disqualified under Section 3, however, he doesn't get out of the starting date.
There you go.
Section provides in pertinent part that no person shall hold any office under the United States who, having previously taken an oath as an officer of the United States to support the Constitution, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion down.
That's what they're doing.
Isn't it?
They're giving aid or comfort to enemies.
They're a war.
So that is that.
So that is why they're using the word insurrection.
Insurrection and a great, great point.
And that's why when they knew it was coming and they were asking for National Guard, they were like, wait a minute.
Don't answer.
Let it go to shit because that's what they're going to have to get them.
That's exactly why Pelosi and all them didn't call.
They didn't get the National Guard.
Hold on.
They told everybody, go let them go in.
That's exactly why that's.
Not even a rebellion.
Now you're going to see the corrupt FBI conspiracy theory.
Wow.
It's not a conspiracy.
I don't like that word.
No, no, no, no.
That's why people say, oh, it was the corrupt FBI because they wanted this.
Yes.
They wanted this, this, and this.
So they could.
That's a great point.
Label that insurrection.
PBD, I want to go back to the VP nomination.
Wouldn't you get a second?
Go for it.
I want to see who you think is most likely to be Trump's VP.
Because, you know, if you're the CEO, you're the leader, you're the founder of the company, the VP is kind of like the what?
The COO?
They're kind of handling everyday operations, if you will.
Who do you think was best suited for that?
Because if you look at Pence, up until literally the last day that Trump was president, Mike Pence was as boot-licking and as up Trump's brown-nose ass as it possibly gets.
Meaning he was playing his part.
I don't mean that in a negative way.
Now everyone's off Pence.
Who do you think that next person would be for Trump?
Listen, this is the only difference on what I'm processing on how you would make the decision on this.
If you're on your first term as a president, deep down inside, what's your biggest fear and embarrassment to be a one-term president?
You fear being a one-term president because, you know, who was the last two one-term presidents, Senior and Carter?
I don't want to be here.
Okay, so you're kind of going through that process, right?
So what do you typically do on your first term?
Not everything.
You do enough, but you don't do everything because you want to have a two-term because most presidents who get elected to president, they're thinking legacy first.
I don't know if Trump's thinking that.
Maybe he is, maybe he's not.
But at the same time, I think a part of him, knowing the fact that he is a guy that wants to compete and wants to be the best, he probably didn't do everything on the first term.
Now the second term, guess what you're on your second term?
You don't give a shit on your second term.
You're going to go do everything and anything you can in four years and then be like, I'm done.
Somebody else come and take this thing over.
And you want that person that takes you over to be one of your guys.
Kind of like Obama wanted Biden because it's one of his guys, right?
Like a flag carrier.
You want it to be your guy that you can call and you have a conversation with and they call you, et cetera, et cetera.
So I think the Pence was a strategy for the first one.
I don't think it's going to be the strategy for the second one that he's going to go find a person like Pence.
I think second person's got to be somebody that you think can take it for eight years.
And that's why that eight years, it's got to be.
Was it for Trump, you mean four?
No, no, the eight after you're out.
The eight after you're out.
So his eight, you got to take somebody that's a pence is not going to win.
You can't pick a pence.
You know, if he picks a pence type personality, he's not thinking after eight years.
He's thinking whoever's going to be the eight years, there's going to be somebody else that's going to come up that maybe isn't the person he picks as a VP.
But I think that's a risk because I don't know if they're going to let this guy be the president, Vinny.
I don't know.
And what I mean by that is even if he becomes the president, the way Trump is, Trump is the type of guy that wants to walk outside.
He's not hiding.
He wants to be outside.
He wants to golf.
He wants to go do his thing.
He wants to go out there and talk.
He wants to go be around people.
He wants to shake hands.
He wants to go to dinners.
He's not trying to avoid the limelight and live a life of fear.
He's a target.
If they feared this guy's going in and he's going to take a part of their life away from them, these establishment type of people, they cannot let this guy be the president.
91 felony counts.
Never in the history.
44 federal.
Yeah.
47 states.
Section 3 using the word insurrection.
The people who came up with this idea right here, do you know how brilliant they are?
This is probably a lawyer like the one in Rutgers that told whoever it was in the 70s about the RICO case on how to go take the mob.
And then Rudy Giulian and Ghost finds this lawyer.
Some lawyer contacted these guys that hates.
Imagine how many thousands of liberal professors there's out there that hate Trump that are lawyers are saying, this is how you get him.
This is the word you have to use.
This is the category of this.
Keep saying the word insurrection.
This is the only way we can get rid of him.
Exactly the same way they went after certain people using that.
These guys were brilliant lawyers who hate him to want to take this guy off.
They know the 91, 44, 47, that's just purely marketing.
It's not going to do nothing.
But the three, the section three?
That's the one.
And the setup to make it go down, Pat, so they could go and every news, every news station in lockstep were like, oh, my Steve Smith's loser ass.
The worst day since 9-11.
Shut the hell up.
That same attitude is exactly that.
They made it seem like it was the end of the world was that one day of everybody going there and protesting.
Unbelievable.
That's an amazing thing to see because now it all makes sense.
It ain't felony.
No, whatever.
That word right there, insurrection.
Wow.
What a get.
Pat, that's a methodical lawyer.
Those are lawyers going through all the fine print and somebody went bingo right there.
I wouldn't put it as an insurrection.
I think they used that quite tactically.
I would still say it's not a great day.
No, but it wasn't.
It wasn't like a day of pride.
How can you call it insurrection?
Nobody had a gun.
Nobody, people were going to, hold on, Adam.
You think people are going to take over the government and like the next day be like, yeah, give me a credit.
That word.
Insurrection to me, a rebellion.
Adam, a rebellion, they were upset?
Yeah, 100%.
But insurrection, nobody was stabbing people.
Come on.
Rob, when you were there that day, Rob, how was the weather?
How was it?
It was a protest, fellas.
It was a peaceful prison.
Rob actually tried to climb the fence, couldn't make it.
Totally small.
He put up the rafters for him.
He wasn't there.
We're not trying to get Rob in Trump.
He's a family guy.
It just looks like it wasn't.
But what I'm saying is I think these guys who he's going up against really are some smart, low-key, underground, faceless type of people that you don't know who they are, but they're sitting around reading everything, finding a way to take them down.
And by the way, some dark credit going to those guys.
Seriously.
I believe so.
Some real dark credit.
By the way, the lawyer that's representing Trump, the lawyer.
She's a Syrian.
She's a Syrian.
The girl?
Yeah.
She's kind of attractive.
What's her name, Laura?
Laura?
I don't know what her name is, but she's a Syrian.
She came over that.
Shout out to Assyrian.
She came out there.
She's a Syrian.
She came out.
Well, listen, Assyrians have a Surah.
You have a picture of Arabila.
They're a Syrian painter.
1984.
Tila Maya.
1984.
She's only 39 years old.
She came from Iraq.
She came from Iraq.
She's from her parents.
The way she talks.
Oh, I love her.
Boss.
Oh, she's a star.
That's good for you.
Pretty attractive.
She's like a young.
She's married.
She's married, Alex.
Not worried about that.
I'm just saying, she kind of looks like a young.
She reminds me of the lawyer from what Tekania?
Johnny Depp's lawyer.
She's like in the same time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, those eyes right there will tell you.
I dare go ahead and sue my clients.
I dare say.
Sue my clients.
See what I do to you.
Dare you.
Go ahead.
Common vote.
Community vote, Alina.
Alina.
I love her.
She's awesome.
All right, guys.
We're going to get some red flags out there with that language.
She's good.
Listen, I'm in the hunt for my friend Vincent O'Shana.
I'm looking for Vincent O'Shana.
We saw a few candidates yesterday for Vincent O'Shana.
And you know, I realized too.
I know you had a waitress, the sushi waitress.
Republican women, conservative women, way hotter than left Democrat.
I went to Mar-a-Lago, just the lawn.
Everybody's happy, and it was a moment.
And Adam, when's the last time you went to like a Democratic function?
Like, what are those like?
Just Chuck Schumer in the corner.
Like, everybody's just angry.
Why is everybody angry?
I've actually never been.
Actually, that's not sure.
I went to a Hillary fundraiser.
How was it?
I was at a mansion in Miami that my buddy owned, so I'm going to go.
Were the women, like, how many women were there?
It was all gay guys.
It was amazing.
Tom, you were there.
Tom, you were there.
Oh, my God.
That's so funny.
And just, by the way, hot.
Rob, is there any way Peck?
He could just do that poll.
Just which party, which conservative, Republican or Democrat?
I will say that they definitely make better wives.
Why would you say that?
The conservative classier women make better wives.
I mean, I would say that most of the sex workers, OnlyFans, party girls are a lot of times hot liberals with daddy issues.
Wow.
Good.
Wow.
It's not like I've done any research on this based on my calculation.
I'm just very interested.
But yeah.
Sorry.
But you keep going to church, bro.
You're going to find your wife.
Every Sunday.
I'm proud of you.
Do you think Alabama, the last debate, matters?
Or is it done, done?
I think after yesterday, it's probably done for the following reasons.
We are two weeks from Thanksgiving.
And you look at all the history of the we keep starting earlier and earlier on this political process.
And so in two weeks, it's Thanksgiving.
And then we get into bowl games and holiday and a lot of things going on.
And the only major economic news that will come out, unless there's like a market crash or something, is going to be Black Friday.
Everybody's going to be interested to see how revved up or how much dry powder did the American consumers still have in terms of credit and the ability to go spend on Black Friday and Digital Monday or whatever it is.
And you're just made up holiday.
Cyber Monday.
Yeah, it's all holiday.
Cyber Monday.
And then all of a sudden, it's going to be, it's going to be January.
And so I don't think the next debate really matters.
I think we've narrowed it to four people and people saw those four people last night.
And you could argue that they were all as good as they're probably going to get.
I don't see, you know what I mean?
Why do you say four people or five on stage?
Eliminate someone?
No, because I call Christie and Scott kind of the fourth.
You know what I mean?
But they're both gone.
You mean if Christy eats Scott, that means it's going to be all in one.
By the way, did you get the references that Chris Chrissy kept saying last night?
He's like, things are getting heavier and larger out here.
It's like, you're really sad.
He goes, and you know what?
Food stamps.
Oh, yeah, we never had foods.
Exactly.
We just ate everything.
And that's why I think the next debate doesn't matter because we're about to get distracted by normal end of year stuff.
And unless the war gets much worse, you know, dear Lord, please no.
Or if the economy really has something terrible happen, dear Lord, please know.
Then we've got, then we have Black Friday, and then we're in the bowl games or in the holiday.
And then America is going to wake up two weeks before the Super Bowl.
And it says, you know, honey, where's my voter registration card?
We are going to vote.
And they're all going to wake up.
But I think they've seen everything they're going to see.
I don't see Haley any better than she was last night and previous, even though she was a little rattled last night.
And I think you've seen DeSantis as good as presidential as poised as you're going to see him.
Good answers.
And then we've seen Vivek trying to be a uniter and then just getting back on debt and says, heck, I'm just going to be me.
Okay.
So, Pat, let's say that that debate doesn't matter.
Can I just give him one little quick anecdote away?
None of that matters because Trump's got a 25-year-old.
I was just going to say that.
That's the punchline.
Think about it.
By the way, great point, Tom.
The next debate, the fourth debate, the last debate, I believe is what it is, is in Alabama on December 6th.
So you went, you guys were in Milwaukee.
You said it was sort of like it was in the middle of summer.
It was fun.
It was a party vibe.
Then you go to California, Reagan Library, amazing.
Then you come to Miami, Adrian R. Center, awesome.
The weather was great.
The vibe was great.
And then right after Thanksgiving, you go to freaking Alabama.
Ain't nobody trying to go to Alabama that time.
So there will be more people in the stadium down the street in Tuscaloosa than watching the debate.
Because Trump's going to do a rally there, probably with Tommy Tumberville, I'm assuming.
Or the University of Alabama is playing for one of the four seeds in the college football player.
No, no, not this year.
They already have two losses.
And then America's going to say, Did you say college football playoffs?
So, Adam, like, and Tom, for all of us, I know it's still a year away, but let's just say, God forbid, they play this Tom Foolery.
No pun intended, Tom Foolery.
Tom Foolery.
And Tom Foolery, Tom.
And Trump can't run.
Trump's completely out.
Who do they vote for?
Who does the Republican Party put number one out of all votes?
Well, we'll let you know.
No, I'm saying, if you had to guess right now, who goes number one?
Sam Scott, duh.
Well, I think, well, I think if the primaries were right now, right now.
No Trump, zero Trump.
If there was no Trump.
No Trump.
Wow, that's, you know, the inheritance factor on that's pretty big.
You got to do some algebra on who inherits those votes.
DeSantis.
So DeSantis probably, dog.
What he just said is very important.
Where is MAGA going to go?
That's Vivek.
They would go to DeSantis.
No, they would not.
No way.
After all the shit.
After last night, it would shock you how many of the angry MAGA go to Vivek.
100%.
I'm telling you guys, don't sleep on him.
Don't sleep on Vivek, bro.
They're not going to run to Sanctimonias.
They're going for Vivek.
Vivek was Donald Trump last night.
He said the same stuff.
Anti-China, no more war, yelling at everybody.
And by the way, by December, you're also going to see probably both Scott and Christie concede their positions.
And we're going to see an inheritance factor in the South Carolina, Iowa, and New Hampshire polls.
Yeah, but they're inheriting 1% of the electorate.
It's like they're inheriting a ton.
What do they got?
What does Scott have?
He has 2%.
Christie's not even on there.
What do you think?
No, but he's got 5.5% up per play.
And that's going to go to Trump.
Trump would make a video supporting.
DeSantis at what number?
Does that say 14?
141.
Trump.
82 and a half point lead.
Yeah.
He's just running up the score at this point.
Well, I'm telling you right now, Trump would make a video from jail supporting Vivek, and it would be hilarious.
Guys, can we just have a quick moment of silence for my guy, Doug Bergam?
He got crossed over in a basketball game for this first debate.
Hang on, hang on.
He got his Achilles ripped off, still showed up in the second debate in a boot.
He's bigger than Ron DeSantis, and he didn't make it to the bench.
Shout out, Doug.
Rob, and it was his foot all the way to the bottom of the boot.
Rob.
That tomfoolery.
I'm going to say right here: Doug Bergham ran to elevate his position because he wants to be Secretary of Agriculture.
Yeah, that's a great call.
Oh, my God.
Record that.
Just keep that in the tank.
Thomas Elsman.
Yeah, he really went on a limb right there.
Okay.
So tomorrow, tomorrow, we can talk, talk, talk.
But tomorrow we got Vivek here.
I cannot wait.
Which is going to be fantastic.
Tom, Vivek will be here tomorrow.
Rob, we're confirmed with that or no?
We're good to go, as far as I'm aware.
Okay, and it's going to be 9 a.m.
It's going to go back to the morning time that we have with Vivek.
Lots to talk about.
If there's any questions you have, tweet at Patrick Bay David.
Let me know what questions you have for him if you want to ask him any questions.
He'll be with us tomorrow for a full two hours.
I got a lot of other questions I want to go through with him as well.
Business, you know, how he's seeing things going on.
The question you asked right now was a great question as well.
What if Trump is not in it?
Where does he think MAGA voters are going to go?
Is he going to pick up the MAGA voters?
It'd be interesting to see.
It'd be interesting to see what he says about potential cabinet members if he's willing to go out on directional Hoosier Cabinet.
He's got to select 11 people, and he's going to end up with a lot of insiders.
It can't all be outsiders.
Be interested to know what he thinks.
Gang, and also make a note of this December 6th at our club, 5990 Live in Fort Lauderdale.
I'll be doing a town hall with RFK, okay, with RFK 5990 Live.
What happened?
You're pointing fingers.
No, I'm saying that's the same date as the RNC debate.
Yeah.
Wow.
So December 6th, same day as the RNC debate.
We're going to be doing the RFK.
We're going to be doing the RFK town hall.
Those of you that are VIP, that's already sold out anyways.
You can't buy the VIPs that sold out within the first couple hours.
You'll be able to send questions.
Those who are at the second part, if we don't have any questions to go to with the VIP, we'll come to you.
If you haven't yet registered, go to 5990live.com.
Again, go to 5990live.com.
VIPs are sold, but we still have a couple tickets left on the other two.
Having said that, we'll see you tomorrow with Vivek, 9 a.m.
