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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, whatever part of the world you're in.
This is episode 316, Home Team.
Lots of stories, lots of things going on.
It's been, I don't know, four days since we did our last podcast, three days since we did our last podcast.
And it seems like it's been a couple weeks because of the events taking place.
I'll share with you some of the stories we're going to go in.
When the weekend comes by and you hear quotes like this, Ray Dalio, there's now a 50% chance of world war as the Israel-Hamas conflict threatens to spread.
Ray Dalio just said this, by the way, on October 13th.
Jamie Dimon says this is the most dangerous the world's been in decades.
Okay.
We'll cover that.
Egypt can save Gaza's civilians.
Wall Street Journal story.
How come they don't take them in?
Then Forbes does a story on our podcast last week with Charlie Kirk.
We'll share that.
And you'll see how quickly the next story, after they said what they said about the podcast that we did, how they contradicted themselves.
Vinny, you got some thoughts on that?
A lot of people are saying there's a civil war going on, the Republican Party within Congress, within Ben Shapiro against Tucker, within Candace against Megan Kelly.
Is it really a civil war?
Is it just the exchange of ideas, differences?
Is that okay?
We'll talk about that.
Even on the left, you know, the Democratic socialists supportive of Gaza, supportive of not Gaza, but Hamas.
It's a bit of conflicting on that side as well on the Democratic side.
We'll cover that.
A lot of billionaires are removing money from paying to Ivy League schools, condemning the fact that they haven't yet to condemn Hamas.
And it's challenging to the point where one of the professors from Cornell University, if you haven't seen this, we'll show you this clip, very, very disturbing clip from a professor celebrating almost of what's going on there, saying the attacks, the Hamas terror attacks are exhilarating and exciting, disturbing to say the least.
And then outside of that, we got some business stories to cover.
Arnold Schwarzenegger Blast Democrats saying they want to F up every city in America as if he wasn't supportive of that just two, three years ago.
But we'll address that as well.
Jada Pinkett's new book got Will Smith responding.
We got some thoughts and ideas.
We can process that.
USE's sanctions on Venezuelan oil for free or presidential election.
This is something that some people may say at this point, you want to talk about oil, but you'll see the way Tom will break it down, why this is a very important story having to do with lithium, with Exxon, and a bunch of other oil stories put together.
We'll talk recession.
We'll talk why LinkedIn is laying off 700 employees and Austin's office market is exploding, yet no one is moving in.
And then some home sales numbers and then Mexicans and the Lois Cartel's message to members, stop making fentanyl or die.
This is a Wall Street Journal story.
And last but not least, nearly 70% of active service members are overweight report finds.
I'm sure that is very intimidating to our enemies to see us, our military, being overweight.
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So having said that, right off the bat, I said we go into the Ray Dalio and Jamie Diamond story.
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Okay, there's now a 50% chance of World War III as the Israel-Hamas conflict threatens to spread.
Hedge fund legend Ray Dalio, this is a $20 billion man says.
This is again an insider story.
So, this may be the most dangerous time the world has seen in decades.
Jamie Diamond says, if you can pull up his Instagram so people can see this as well.
Hedge fund legend Ray Dalio believes that the risk of transitioning from contained conflict to an uncontained hot world has risen from 35% to 50% over the last two years, stating, in my opinion, this war has a high risk of leading to several other conflicts of different stating, of different types in a number of places, and it is likely to have harmful effects that will extend beyond those in Israel and Gaza.
Dalio, who is known for his expertise in global power shift and historical cycles, sees the Israel-Hamas and Russia-Ukraine conflicts as brutal struggles likely to persist until one side emerges as the clear victor.
And he warns: if they spread to other countries, most importantly, the major countries, there will be a much more horrific, hot world war.
Tom, what are your thoughts on what Dalio is saying here, as well as Jamie Diamond?
Well, both Dalio and Jamie Dimon don't want anything happen to the U.S. equity markets.
That's what they're very, very concerned about: U.S. asset prices, U.S. equity markets.
So they're sounding the alarm on one thing.
And what it is, is the escalation.
And when you look at the chessboard.
There it is.
That's Jamie Diamond.
This may be the most dangerous time the world has seen in decades.
Go ahead, Tom.
Yeah, so what is he worried about?
This is what he's worried about.
You got to look five moves ahead.
And there's a nice man that wrote a book, Your Next Five Moves.
Think about the next moves here.
And the one that everybody's worried about as you were seeing it over the weekend was Iran.
Everybody, all the ambassadors were going to talk to Iran.
They're saying, hey, baby, stay in your corner.
Stay in your corner.
Don't, you know, we know what you're trying to do over there in Syria.
Don't show up with arms.
Don't show up with support.
Stay out of this.
And there is a lot of work.
And that is what everyone is worried about.
The escalation of the conflict is not the Saudis.
It's not the Egyptians.
The Egyptians are not armed.
And the Saudis are not interested in getting into full conflict.
It is Iran and Syria making it a two-front war.
That destabilizes energy, which will have a domino effect.
So you have leading economic thinkers, Dalio and Diamond, saying, We don't want to see this escalate.
And you can translate it down to one sentence.
We don't want Iran to get with Syria, make it a two-front war, and make it a regional conflict, which in effect nearly a world war because of what it's going to do to the markets.
Yeah, I think it begs the question: what would the current state of the world look like under the presidency of Donald Trump?
Right?
So if you look at the odds, don't go soft on me, Adam.
Yeah, exactly.
So if you look at the odds that Jamie Dimon is throwing out there, right?
And Ray Dalio, for that matter, basically going from 35% to 50% to a world war, I think it begs the question: what would have happened under Donald Trump?
Yes, that's me saying this.
You know, Trump came into office in 2016 like a bull in a china shop.
Obviously, the media was against him.
And, you know, he obviously played a part in that as well.
Temperatures flared up.
He came in like a bull in a china shop.
But the whole reason, the whole premise that Joe Biden was elected, not because he was a strong, capable, vibrant leader, just because he just wasn't Donald Trump.
Anyone could have beaten Donald Trump just because of the cards that were stacked against him.
But I think it's incumbent on all of us to ask, how much different would this be under Donald Trump?
Are you going to tell us?
Are you going to repeat that three times?
Are you getting to the I want to hear your point?
But the point is, the resounding narrative from the people on the right is basically, not under Trump.
There was no world wars under the teeth.
There were no wars under Trump.
What do you think?
I think it's a definite question that should be raised.
And a lot of people on the left don't want to hear that question be raised.
What do you think?
Is my point.
I just narrated it.
I think if you just look at the numbers, there's something to be said there.
Now, we don't know for sure if Ukraine would have been invaded by Russia.
We don't 100% know that.
We don't know if this would have happened under Trump.
I think it is a very imperative question to ask, though.
Oh, my God.
Adam, it's so, okay.
I got you.
So, Rob, why don't you do this?
Do you want me to say that I guarantee you?
No, it's not.
You said the same thing five times.
I got it.
So make your point.
Rob, do me a favor and pull up the clip by Shamaat, and let's play what Shamaat said.
And he's actually given perspective.
Like, I want to hear your thoughts.
If you're saying that, I want you to tell me your follow-through with here's what I'm thinking instead of it begs to question.
Here's what Shama says with his opinion.
And then we judge it or we tear it apart.
Play the Shamaat clip.
Go for it.
This is the all-in-piece.
Tom, please let us go back to the clip and let's play it.
Go ahead.
When Trump was elected, I was told that it was the end of the world.
And that's what I thought.
And I'd already underwritten him as an F.
Okay.
And then four years into the presidency, he was probably like a C in my mind.
And then as I get a little bit of distance away, I realize, no, hold on a second.
This guy was like a BB plus.
Like he was pretty good.
I voted for Hillary Clinton.
I voted for Joe Biden, but this is the honesty.
He voted for Hillary and he voted for Joe Biden.
He was a former owner of the Golden State Warriors.
I think he made his first billion from Facebook, Tom, if I'm not mistaken.
This is not a Trump guy.
Keep playing.
And he did, for the things that he was supposed to do, a good job.
And for where every other president found a way to, frankly, make our situation a little bit worse, specifically around wars, he did not do that.
And that is a huge accomplishment that I think needs to be acknowledged.
I think the thing that was smart about Trump was that he was willing to do business.
David Sachs willing to negotiate.
David Sachs is Elon Musk's right-hand guy.
Oh, wow.
David Sachs is a guy that's probably, according to what you read about, one of Elon's 10 guys he trusts to process issues with.
It's Sachs.
He was the guy when Ron DeSantis announced his candidacy on X via Twitter.
It was David Sachs that was actually doing the interview along with Elon.
He's a guy.
He's a major.
He's a respected guy.
Keep going.
I feel the need to make these moral condemnations all the time.
He was willing to meet with Chun Jong-un.
He was willing to meet with Putin and Xi Jinping.
And he avoided criticizing them personally.
He didn't call them dictators.
He talked about how smart they are.
It's the art of the deal, right?
I mean, at the end of the day, he's looking to do business.
Okay.
So what are your thoughts on that, Tom?
When you hear Shama here?
I'll tell you what I think.
I think you've got Silicon Valley thinkers there that are backing up against the backdrop of calming.
Number one, they've calmed down since Trump.
Number two, they have a backdrop to step back.
And number three, now they have a little bit of history and a little bit of perspective in terms of what's happening now versus then.
And they're getting back to it and saying, I go from being a Hillary voter to seeing perspective and honestly saying, you know what?
I should have gotten this a bigger race.
I should have given this a much bigger raise in my rating than I did.
And I think that is probably on the mind of more people than want to admit it.
So let me ask this question then.
Let me ask this question of all of you here.
So is this crisis in Israel?
Okay.
And Hamas, obviously tragic, worse since the Holocaust.
We've all seen the videos.
We're following the story closely.
Is this helping Trump or is this helping Biden?
Okay.
You know, especially with Biden's 60 minutes or, you know, even in the 60 minutes when the 60-minute interviewer says, you know, even though the president seemed so tired, he felt this was so important for him to do this.
It's as if 60 minutes is defending how tired the president is, right?
But is this helping Biden, okay, for him to stand firmly on Israel and backing them up?
Is this helping Trump?
Did the numbers change at all?
What do you think how this is helping us?
Let me go to Adam first.
Adam.
Well, I think in an odds perspective, this is helping Trump.
This is my point.
So the whole thing that Shamas said is that it was marketed as an F.
He said that, right?
He underwritten Trump's presidency as an F.
A lot of people did.
That was essentially my point.
And then as time went on, time heals all wounds, as they say.
It went from an F to a D to a C to a final grade of a B B plus.
And I think it's, you know, people come around in all different time.
Everyone has their own time horizon for when they come around to these types of notions.
So at the end of the day, I think this is only going to help Trump.
And, you know, Biden, he's standing strong.
Apparently, he's saying the right things.
Apparently, he's going to go visit Israel this week.
But at the end of the day, I think this does help Trump.
First of all, Pat, it's that same media that's trying to make Biden look like he's strong.
And he's, it's the same media that told us that he was this evil World War III maniac that was going to get us all messed up.
And like, I think it's time for us to get pissed off, Pat, because that same media that ignored all it and tried to make us think that it was him, now, guess what?
We told you so.
And now it's real.
Now we're on the, when people were saying that we're on the brink of World War III with North Korea and everything, now it's actually in your faces.
We told you, we told you that it was all BS.
And now it's actually happening.
We are literally on the brink of it.
And it's like, you can't say, I can't point at them like we told you so, but like we were right.
I think it's helping Trump for one simple reason.
Everybody doesn't like pit bulls.
Oh, I don't like pit bulls.
They're dangerous around kids and you can't predict them.
And then five houses on the block get broken into and everybody wants a pit bull.
That is the perspective that has come to America.
And I'll break it down just that simple.
And if you think I'm oversimplifying it, sorry.
I think this is helping Trump.
And the fact they don't even talk about Biden is deafening silence.
And Pat, I like the analogy you used about the mafia boss.
I don't know if you want to unpack that again in this regard.
Which one is that?
Well, you said basically when the mafia leader is strong, everyone kind of chills.
Whereas the mafia boss is sort of weaker, that's where chaos ensues.
Yeah, again, this is a that's the part about when it's peacetime, everybody hates a wartime leader like Trump.
Okay.
Everybody hates, not everybody, 80% hates a wartime leader like Trump because the brain is not consumed with war, anxiety, and stress.
So you're like, dude, you're so annoying, Trump.
Stop like, oh my God, everything's not a war.
You don't need to fight everybody.
Relax.
Why are you like this, dude?
Everything is peaceful.
And then when it's wartime, everybody is scared shitless of having a peacetime leader.
And that's what's going on right now.
Biden is not a wartime leader.
He's a peacetime leader.
He's a guy that's everything is peaceful.
You come in at nine o'clock.
You leave at 2 o'clock in the afternoon.
Nobody can tell it's okay.
You're a peacetime guy.
You don't work that hard.
You're not always on the screen.
You're not always talking good.
I don't have to see this guy.
Like Bilbo almost said, you know, I kind of prefer my presidents to only see them once every six months like my mother-in-law.
I don't, you know, or some of the girlfriends that you don't like.
I don't want to see her too often.
I kind of feel like that's the kind of president we have right now.
But when it's wartime, you know, everybody misses the wartime leader.
You know who misses the wartime leader?
Even if you hated the wartime leader.
And that's the most interesting dynamic to see.
That motherfucker, again, just fan of his big piece of shit.
But you know what?
We kind of need him right now, dog.
Yeah.
We're going to need him right now.
Hey, Chamberlain.
Yeah, what's up?
You're not a wartime leader, bro.
You got to go knock on the door and call that guy you hate the most.
I'm not calling him.
You got to call him.
You're the only guy that he's willing to listen to to come back.
You got to go beg him to come because he's the only guy that can go up against this guy named Adolph.
I'm not going to go after him.
He's a piece of, you're the only guy that he has to hear it from.
The only person that can make him come back is you.
You better do it to save this country.
You better do it to save the world.
Hey, Winston, I can't stand you, but we need you back as a prime minister.
What do you say?
We need you back as a prime minister.
Say it one more time.
We need you back as a prime minister.
Who's your daddy?
You're my daddy.
Okay, I'll come back.
Then Churchill comes back and he fights and wins the war.
And all of us now speak English instead of speaking German.
That's exactly right.
There's an element of this taking place today that people are paying attention to.
But I want to kind of get your feedback on this, Adam, because I know the last couple of weeks, you've given your insight on what's going on here.
And it's been very interesting on talking what's going on with Israel, especially since you were there just a couple months ago.
So how do you react when you see, okay, a professor, okay, a professor who, a Cornell University professor, calls Hamas' terror attacks exhilarating and exciting, okay?
This is Cornell University.
We have a friend here that went to Cornell, Dink.
This is a New York Post story.
Cornell University.
Matter of fact, before I even say it, because people are like, well, you know, how do you know this is the truth?
Let's just play the clip and let's let you hear what this professor at Cornell said.
Rob, if you can make this bigger, it's 24 seconds.
Go ahead and play this clip.
It was exhilarating.
It was exhilarating.
It was energetic.
Okay.
If you weren't exhilarated by this challenge to the monopoly of this shifting of the violence of hours than they would have done to you and I find exhilarating.
Okay, Stanwood Palestine and you see on the occupation, whatever it says to the right.
Let me finish up the story.
Cornell professor Russell Rickford sparked controversy with comments made during the pro-Palestine rally.
He described Hamas' recent terror on Israel, which caused over 1,400 casualties as exhilarating and energizing, asserting that it had shifted the balance of power and punctuated Israel's invincibility illusion.
Rickford's speech at the rally included remarks that it was exhilarating, a monopoly of violence.
The crowd at the rally join and chanting from the river of the sea of Palestine will be free, a slogan deemed anti-Semitic by the American Jews.
And let me continue with this because remember, a lot of these Ivy League schools are sitting on 10, 20, 30, 40, 50.
And I think Harvard's sitting on $60 billion of endowment.
Many of this money has been paid by people that are pro-Israel and to the point where billionaires, this is a Daily Mail article, drop Ivy League funding over failures to condemn Hamas.
Page 11, if you want to go to it.
Ivy League shocks, Harvard, the University of Pennsylvania face a potential loss of $487 million in funding from prominent donors, withdrew support.
Billionaire Ken Griffin, who pledged $300 million to Harvard, criticized the university stance on Hamas, while the Wexner Foundation, which donated $56 million over 30 years, withdrew support, expressing being stunned and sickened.
Israel billionaire Aiden Ofair and his wife Batia, who donated $20 million to Harvard, resigned from an executive board.
Hedge fund manager Bill Ackman, who donated $17 million to Harvard, said he won't hire students involved.
Apolog Mark Rowan called for donors to the University of Pennsylvania to either withdraw funding or send a dollar in protest.
Former U.S. Ambassador John Huntsman Jr., whose family donated $50 million to UPEN.
By the way, John Huntsman Jr. was a former president, presidential candidate, vowed to halt the future donations, citing UPenn's silence on Hamas.
Adam, when you see these stories, when you hear things being said, how do you react?
So, yeah, I've been going deep down the rabbit hole of understanding the sympathy for Hamas, but specifically in America, right?
And I came across this article.
I mean, here's some numbers for you.
If you just kind of want to look at this, only four in 10 18 to 29-year-olds, essentially Gen Z and the younger millennials, have a negative view of Hamas.
So if you just look at the numbers, overall view 51%.
So red is negative, green is positive.
But if you go by demographics, you can see that the millennials, Gen X, and boomers, it's all 50 plus percent negative view of a terrorist organization called Hamas.
And if you see the marketing campaign that Bibi Netanyahu's doing and the rest of the Democratic world is doing, is that Hamas equals ISIS, right?
But the younger generation, almost a quarter of them, does a quarter, only a quarter of them thinks that it has a negative view of them.
And almost, what's that?
30 plus percent actually have a positive view of them.
I'm like, I'm trying to make some sense of this.
And I came across this article, this opinion article in Wall Street Journal, and I kind of want to reiterate what I basically found from that.
But essentially, it addressed this exact issue of what's going on in modern-day academia.
So essentially, the article was sort of the title of the article was that liberals and leftists need a reckoning with anti-Semitism.
And basically, it tells the story of the reason that Joe Biden decided to run in 2020.
And it basically dates back to what happened in 2017 in Charlottesville, the Unite the Right rally and everything that happened with that, where a white supremacist drove his car into people marching and killed that one young lady, right?
So if you recall that, that was the famous, there were good people on both sides, that whole speech, right?
So in that protest, you know, it was tiki torch-carrying, almost brown shirt-like neo-Nazi fascists, allegedly, that were spouting things like Jews will not replace us.
So traditionally, we've seen the far-right neo-Nazi KKK be identified with sort of that mantra of anti-Semitism and everything that comes along with white supremacy.
But things have shifted.
So now it's not as angry and violent and in your face as it once was.
Now it's sort of taking place on the beautiful green leafy campuses of the progressive left, whether that's the Harvard, whether it's the Cornells, whether it's the Berkeleys, it's happening all over this country.
And if you just look at the numbers right there, Gen Z, the progressive social democratic left via academia, are being indoctrinated into this worldview.
So you have our youth, our college students, focusing on things like oppression, white privilege, the hyper-obsession with race, identity, sexual orientation, and everything that applies to what is perceived as power and the patriarchy.
And essentially what comes down to anti-white men.
So the social justice warriors of America.
But here are the two points that they basically harp on.
There's two words that I wasn't really too familiar with, but I was like, all right, what does these things mean?
They talked about intersectionality and they talked about decolonization.
We're all familiar with America and colonization and imperialism and all that fun stuff like that.
So here's the core ideology of the far left progressive woke agenda.
So intersectionality, that all the victims of discrimination are on the basis of race, sex, and sexual orientation are all interlinked.
So if you're oppressed, you're all interlinked into one common theme.
Okay.
So the purported victims of this oppression are the most enthusiastic, ironically, of the oppression of against the other groups.
So for instance, if you see the gay rights, if you've seen the gays for Palestine, this is the cognitive dissonance that's going on in the modern woke academia left.
The gays for Palestine, they're holding up signs, gays for Palestine.
The most ironic part of that is if you tried to do the gays for Palestine march in Palestine or in the majority of Middle East countries, you would be executed.
You would be stoned.
You would be hung.
You'd be headed.
So good luck doing that in the country that you are supporting.
The cognitive dissonance is alarming to me.
Okay, so that's point one.
By the way, Israel is the only country that actually is totally fine with LGBTQ rights.
When I was in Israel, it was like Tel Aviv was one of the gayest things I've ever seen.
Whatever.
Like fine.
I'm not gay, but do you think that's the same thing?
And this is the same Adam.
That's just like the Mia Khalifa, the porn girl.
Exactly.
That's like pro-Palestine.
Don't stop your head.
Don't be an OnlyFans porn star while wearing a hijab on the flag.
You're dead.
You're dead.
But in America, so friggin'.
And in democratic countries, you can say whatever you want to say.
Point number two is the decolonization component, right?
So that's the disposing of the dead white males throughout history.
Politicians, poets, artists, authors, all that.
And the resistance of the oppressed includes what is an armed struggle to get their lands and lives back, okay?
So what it essentially comes down to is logic is thrown out the window.
It's just pure emotion.
It's pure rage.
It's pure cognitive dissonance.
And this is what they're grappling with when you have a professor basically saying, I'm so enthused by the death of what's perceived as the oppressors.
Whereas good luck doing those types of rallies, talks in those types of countries.
Great point.
Tom.
I think you can simplify that a little bit.
And I understand the academic angle there.
What you have is if you look at those charts, you've got the youth that are split.
And it's not liberal extremism.
It's Marxism that's mixed in.
It's deeper than just, oh, they're liberals.
They're extreme liberal.
Yeah, they are extreme liberals, but they're Marxists.
You listen to AOC.
It's not extreme liberalism.
It's Marxism.
Listen to the squad.
Listen very carefully.
And you look at their grandparents here.
And by the way, it's much more than 50%, Adam.
It's 75%.
64% there is very negative and then quite negative.
So you've got 75% of the boomer grandparents.
You've got 73% of the boomer parents.
And then it moves down in these two recent generations.
And that, my friend, is a graph showing you what happens when you move to extreme left ideology and Marxism on campus.
You know what that tells me?
That's what's going on.
You know what that tells me?
You know, 18 to 29, 23% very negative, okay, of Hamas.
17% quite negative.
Then you got 60% that either don't know, neither quite positive or very positive.
Okay.
Who do those 18 to 29-year-olds spend the most time with?
Professors, colleges, universities.
So guess what?
America, I love the fact that these guys are not funding these universities right now because you know what they're saying?
They're voting finally.
And by the way, these are Democrats that are not voting for giving them money.
The only guy here that's a Republican was Ken Griffin.
Everybody else was pretty much on the left.
Say, you screwed up my kids and grandkids.
And you know who Wexler is?
You know who Wexler is.
Wexler is the guy that, you know, he bought that building 9-11.
Yeah, he is connected to the 9-11.
If you really want to find out who Lex Wexler is, go type in Les Wexler 9-11 and good luck.
You'll be distracted for a couple hours.
But, you know, these guys to say we're not doing that anymore.
Why?
Because they realize you send your kids the way you raised them for 18 years.
They come back and they're like, dude, you're not my kid.
What the hell happened to you the last four years?
Well, daddy, they brainwashed me into thinking you're a moron.
You're an idiot.
You have no clue what you're talking about.
And these are professors that are sitting there.
All they want to do is give you a lip service and there's no exchange.
I'm a college professor.
I know what I'm talking about here.
You know that they do that.
Anyway, and Pat, not to cut you off.
Wait, I'd be interested to see if, God forbid, one of these Hamas people that are coming over through the border blow themselves up or some shit in front of one of these idiots that has no idea what the hell is going on.
See how you feel when it hits home.
Because it's coming.
I don't care what anybody says.
You know it's coming.
In the last 72 hours, Border has said that they have found four known Iranian, let's just call them troublemakers on the terror watch list.
So all this pro-Hamas, wait till some shit blows up in front of your face and let's see how your attitude is.
That's not 100% Mexicans that are trying to flee terrible, terrible things that are going on in Mexico's family.
I'm happy to call it what it is.
They're practically refugees.
But in the middle of that, it's not 100% people that are really looking for a better life.
It's people taking advantage of the river humidity to hide inside it and to get here.
Yeah, and exactly.
And going back again on this whole everybody from the left changing their attitude, it was all Trump.
Mexicans are rapists.
It's like, bro, the Mexicans are going back to Mexico.
I've seen videos where they're literally crying and going back because of how shitty it is over here.
And it's not Mexicans.
It's everybody is coming here.
And it's when the CIA is warning us of some short.
What's happened to San Diego?
You don't blame them.
They get to San Diego and they say, wait a minute, where's all the pictures of the yachts and all the Tom?
I just want to add one thing to what you said about the Marxism that's going on campus.
Rob, would you just Google political horseshoe?
Here's one of the things I've learned definitely since being at Value Tainment and understanding just like just getting smarter, getting more informed, trying to understand how things ex. We're used to, go to images if you don't mind.
You think of political ideology on the spectrum that's almost linear.
So you have the far left and you have the far right, okay?
But the actuality is that the political spectrum is more like a horseshoe.
So we have the far left, the socialist, Marxist, communist, authoritarian regimes, and then you have the very far right, fascist, neo-Nazi, far-right nationalist regimes that you think that they're diametrically opposed and they're on opposite side of the spectrum, but it's not linear.
It basically comes into a horseshoe where they sort of meet in the middle and it just meets at authoritarian intolerance and just complete destruction of whoever does not agree with your viewpoint.
And I think that's something that you, someone might say, well, how does the far left socialist Marxists on campus identify with the far right Muslim terrorist organizations, it's because the horseshoe is what's connecting them.
Because politically, they are not inclined whatsoever to agree with each other, other than the, this is my view, and you will not change my viewpoint, and I will die for this viewpoint.
Dave, you make a really good point.
And for people that don't know this, go study that.
But meanwhile, keep listening for a second.
Look how close.
Remember, Hitler suppressed speech and then changed, and Stalin.
And Stalin made one newspaper under glass that sat in the public square called the Pravda.
Pravda is a Russian word that means truth.
Isn't that funny?
That's hilarious.
And that was there.
And then, so what do you see AOC doing?
We are using American social media leaders to cancel conservative voices.
We do not want them to be heard.
That's AOC.
That's the squad.
Then go all the way and look at the history of fascism and how they suppress speech.
And that horseshoe meets right there where we can look and see, even if you don't believe in horseshoe theory, just listen closely.
Did Hitler suppress speech?
Did Stalin is AOC?
They eventually meet and they agree.
You know what?
Our opponents need to shut up.
No, no, we need to shut them up.
Correct.
Okay, let me read this next part about Iran on what Iran is saying and what U.S. is saying to Iran.
So Iran warns Israel through UN against ground offensive in Gaza.
This is an axial story.
Iran warned Israel through UN against a ground offensive in Gaza, expressing a desire to avoid further escalation.
Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amid Abdullahyan met with UN envoy Tor Wenesland and stressing Iran's reluctance to see the conflict turn into a regional war and expressing a willingness to help release hostages held by Hamas.
Amid Abduhlyan, however, indicated that Iran would respond if Israel pursued a ground operation in Gaza.
Here we go.
The involvement of Iran in the Hamas-Israel conflict could potentially lead to a broader regional war.
The U.S. has tempted, attempted to deter Iran and its ally, Hezbollah, from joining the fighting and has deployed an aircraft carrier group and fighter jets to the region.
And so that's the axial story if they do something.
And then U.S. has turned around in the Russian concept.
U.S. warns Iran against escalating Israel-Hamas war into regional.
This is Financial Times story.
U.S. President Joe Biden sternly cautioned Iran, saying, don't, don't, don't, don't.
When asked about Iran's potential involvement, escalating the Israel-Hamas conflict into regional one, he also emphasized the need for a Palestinian state, stating Hamas must be eliminated entirely, but there needs to be a Palestinian authority and a path to Palestinian state.
U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan conveyed the existence of a private communications with Iran to deter escalation, highlighting the risk of a broader conflict and Iran's potential involvement, noting there's a risk of an escalation of this conflict, the opening of a second front in the north, and of course of Iran's involvement.
That is a risk.
Tom, when you see this, okay, and you hear the story where the number just came up to 50% chance of World War III, Ray Dali was talking about that.
Jamie Dimon, this is the most dangerous we've had, times we've had in decades.
And now the fear of Iran telling Israel don't get involved through UN, U.S. telling Iran do not get involved and bring in Hezbollah.
How ugly can this thing be?
Or is it already ugly where there's point of no return?
Isn't it interesting that Pat is reading a story from the Financial Times?
And that is exactly where the world is running.
There's three centers of real financial strength in the world.
And one of them is New York, one of them is Hong Kong, one of them is London.
There's others, so you can put it in the chat and get all upset with me.
But those are the anchors.
And the Financial Times is reporting kind of what I was talking about a little earlier in the podcast is like they, everyone is telling Iran.
And by the way, Iran is also a source of energy.
They're an oil producer.
And so everyone is like, dude, you need to stay in your corner.
Everybody wants to do everything they can to keep Iran to stay in its corner.
Because if Iran, if Hezbollah says, we're going to Syria, we need guns.
And Iran says, I'll give you all you want.
It's sort of like us the way, wait, we've been giving weaponry to Ukraine.
We do not want Iran giving weaponry to Hezbollah.
And this is exactly what Jamie Dimon and others are talking about, saying that move on the chessboard is the bad move.
So we all need to be talking to Iran, take them for coffee over the weekend, get them to calm down and not step into this thing.
Well, Pat, it's almost like we're instigating, though.
If we did that deal for the hostages and then we just give them, you know, $6 billion, it's almost like we're inviting them because you know where that money was going to go.
There's no hiding it.
It's almost like we're pushing them, pushing them, pushing them, because at the end of the day, don't do this.
Oh, if you do this, we're going to do this.
It's inevitable, Pat.
To answer the question, Tom, at the end, it's 100% inevitable.
Everybody is fighting.
And if you can't see that it's going to be a world war, then you're just blind, bro.
You're blind.
We're pushing.
We want it to happen.
Everybody's like in Congress.
They're like, you know, if Iran does anything, who's like the Congressman Pat that was like, Iran, we'll blow up your oil.
It's like, what are you doing?
You're talking about Lindsey Grant.
Lindsey Graham is like, what the hell are you guys talking about?
Bombing shit?
No.
Shut up, bro.
They'll just shut it off.
They'll shut it off.
Right now, there is a blockade, and the blockade is USS Gerald Ford.
We're not there to bomb anything.
We're off the coast of Gaza telling everybody in the rest of the world, do not screw with this situation.
This is a blockade.
Do not let anything go in.
Do not help.
And so that's what's happening there.
The same thing will happen to Iran.
We will shut off the pipelines.
No one will be sending tankers into that Gulf.
No one.
That's how you get to Iran.
You just shut off the money supply to the oil.
Now they've got the backdoor money supply, which goes to Russia and the oil trade and things like that.
But there will be a blockade.
Lindsey Graham is just being too much of the big war hawk there.
Need to calm down.
There's plenty of ways to step on Iran's air hose.
And if you don't think that's what's being discussed over the weekend with ambassadors, you're not paying attention.
Yeah, I think what we've seen over the last four, eight, 20 years for that matter is just the polarizing shift, whether the Democrats or the Republicans come in, how to deal with the quagmire that is Iran.
And nobody can speak more about that than PBD.
But every four to eight years, all right, cool, let's give them money.
Let's take, let's unplug their nuclear arsenal.
All right, let's give them money so they can plug and let's give them hostages.
We keep reversing course on what we're going to do with Iran.
And make no mistake about it, whether it's Hamas, whether it's Hezbollah, whether it's the Houthi rebels that's going on in the proxy war that's in Yemen versus Saudi Arabia, Iran is the tip of the spear.
Darfur, exactly.
So until we figure out how we're going to deal with the world nuisance that is Iran, where their greatest exporter for the last, since 1979 has been terrorism, we're just going to keep running to this problem because we can keep playing whack-a-mole with Hamas and Hezbollah and all this.
But Iran is the situation that needs to be dealt with.
And make no mistake about it.
The people of Iran, beautiful people, a beautiful culture, as good as it gets, type of people you'll find, they have no love for their absolute theocratic authoritarian mullah regime.
If they had the power to rid themselves of this nuisance, they would do it in a second.
Unfortunately, they cannot do it.
And that is essentially the problem.
And then it's, it's, I think from solutions, I think there needs to be some, I don't know if it exists.
I can't think of one, a bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, House, just put it all together on the Iran situation and how to deal with that because it just keeps moving and keeps moving.
You know what scares me a lot?
I will tell you what concerns me a lot.
Remember that one video where these comedians made the video showing the mom that comes up and she pulls the LGBTQ flag and the teacher reacts and her son is sitting there and the teacher tells the son, shut up.
And then you realize these guys are actors and actresses.
But that video has gotten a few billion views online and it's produced a lot of emotions.
Okay.
What percentage of people that shared that video know it's fake?
What percentage of people that shared out of the 2 billion people that I watched that video total, what percentage do you think know it's a fake video?
It's not real.
It's a fake video.
25%.
20, 80 against it.
Okay, 80%, 1.6 billion are convinced that video is real and it produced emotions.
Okay.
These deep fake videos that could come out.
Okay.
And what do deep fake videos do?
That's the video right there.
What do deep fake videos do?
Deep fake, that video right there.
What do deep fake videos do?
Deep fake videos get emotions high.
It gets you angry.
It gets you to hate.
But most importantly, it gives you permission to say it's okay for them to kill the other people.
Okay.
These deep fakes could be any kind of videos that are out there.
Okay.
Both sides could have deep fake videos to show, to validate what they're doing.
Think about it from CNN.
CNN will not show a black man killing a white person.
They won't do it.
CNN won't highlight the story of a black man killing a black man.
But CNN will show a white man killing a black man for 24-7 for weeks until they get so much anger in their audience to react to it, right?
Justice Smollett, did you see these two black mega people came in?
It's like, oh shit, now that it's a fake story, oh, it's a next story.
A cat got into a fight with a dog and there was racism involved in this fight between a cat and a dog because the cat was black and the dog was a white poodle.
It's genocide.
Those dogs are trying to eliminate the cats.
But here's the part that we, we as viewers, we, you and I that's watching this year, we have to be very, very careful for our own side to not use that against us and for the opposition to not use it against us.
Because what happens when emotion goes super, super high, then all of a sudden we make emotional decisions and we look back a month, three months, six months, 12 months later, 10 years later, and we say, damn, we were like, we were part of the problem.
That was a major, major problem that led to a catastrophic event worldwide.
Tension is so high right now that it's making me want to question everything.
For example, on the last podcast when we had Charlie Kirk on, what was one of the questions I asked Charlie was, how did Israel not know Hamas was going to attack?
Okay.
Great question.
And then Forbes comes out and says this, you know, conspiracy to go viral with claims about Israel, Hamas conflict, go a little lower, you know, and he's calling, he's calling Charlie Kirk and Standoff Down.
Keep going all the way down, keep going all the way down, keep going all the way down about the whole story on the PBD podcast, this, this, that.
And then while they're writing this, then they have another story that comes up from Forbes.
This video with Charlie, this clip got tens of millions of views on Twitter, on TikTok.
It fully went viral.
This clip, the question was asked.
But you know what else?
It's a good question to ask.
Here's the other question.
The question is, Egypt can save Gaza's civilians.
This is from Wall Street Journal.
Egypt can save Gaza's civilians.
Israel's taking measures to protect civilians in Gaza's operation, warning 1.1 million civilians to evacuate.
By the way, 50% of people that live in Palestine are kids.
And the northern Gaza Strip, all the Hamas intentionally uses civilians as human shields, as noted by German foreign minister Analena Barbak.
Hamas brings nothing but suffering and death.
It is Hamas's perfidious, perfidious strategy to use the civilian population as a human shield.
Egypt, the only escape route for Gaza civilians, maintain strict entry quotas as a Rafaq crossing, fearing the infiltration of Hamas terrorists.
This hampers the evacuations of civilians with the 800 allowed to leave on Monday.
800.
They're asking 1.1 to leave.
Egypt is saying only 800 are allowed as of Monday and the crossing reportedly closed recently.
International pressure, especially from the United States, should encourage Egypt to open the Rafah crossing to prevent a humanitarian crisis and help break Hamas's control over Gaza civilians.
Here's the question: Who knows Palestine and Gaza better, us or Egypt?
Egypt.
Why isn't Egypt allowing them to cross the border?
Why are we so liberal in America with allowing people to come across the border?
How many terrorists were found?
Four Iranian people, Rob, if you want to pull up that story.
Yeah, pull this one up.
You just had it up a couple minutes ago.
When you find it, I'll show it.
Daily Mail page.
And this is just recently.
This is just recently.
Rob just had it up.
Four Iranians considered a terrorist threat caught at the U.S.-Mexico border as crossers from countries with links to Israel war spikes, right?
So I wish the U.S. treated the border of people coming up from Mexico the same way Egypt protected their border of people coming down to their country.
Because, you know, what's Egypt's responsibility?
Who's their number one priority?
Their country.
Citizens.
Their people.
Who else's responsibility is that?
So to me, the same question I have of how does Israel, the number one secret intelligence organization in the world, Mossad, you didn't know Hamas was going to do this.
And then to the people like, that's right.
Israel knew this was going to happen.
They wanted you guys to fall for it.
And mainstream media has been behind it.
To all the people that are liking that story, my question back to you is: if the people of Gaza, Palestine, Hamas, are so friendly and gentle and kind that you say they are, no one knows them better than their next door neighbor.
Who knows your neighbor better than you on what they do on the weekends?
If you've lived next to them for hundreds of years, you're going to know when they barbecue.
You're going to know when they talk shit.
You're going to know when they do parties.
You're going to know how drunk they get.
You're going to know that auntie that comes out of fights breakout.
You're going to know which kid is a troublemaker.
You're going to know who sneaks in girls in the back.
You're going to know all of that stuff.
And if you do, why do you say, nope, you guys can't come here?
Why would you say that?
Both are very, very valid question.
You asked this question last week.
You got me thinking about the whole thing where, hey, Egypt, if you want to do something about it, let them in.
Why don't you?
It's a valid question.
So to both sides, if you can't entertain two ideas at the same time and be willing to be wrong, you're just as much as part of the problem as the people that are, no, I'm only going to believe this side.
You're the problem.
You have to entertain both ideas to see what's really taking place here, or else you're causing the emotions to go high for us to make some dumb decisions that could cost millions of people's lives.
This is not one of those stories that could end up being only 5,000 people, 5,800 people.
This could go like this.
Ready?
You ever seen these fires in California?
Boom.
One little match.
Boom.
And then it wins.
Hawaii, the win.
Boom.
Boom, done.
Game over.
It could go that quickly.
So make sure you and I, if you watch this, some of you watch us because you love what we have to say.
But many of you also watch us because you hate what we have to say.
But the few of you that watch it, because we do our best to be fair to entertain both ideas, that group, we have to be louder.
We have to be louder to get people to entertain both ideas.
That's my biggest concern with this thing here.
My concern is that people are going to jump to conclusion without weighing both options.
And then all of a sudden, boom, we have World War III.
And we're sitting there saying, how did 82 people in our community in Florida die?
How did 17 innocent kids in school in Kansas City die?
How did 29 people like that kid that got, who's the kid?
Did you see the two young kids in Chicago?
What was the one that just happened?
And there was one in Texas.
Yeah, these stories.
Dude, what did these kids do?
These kids didn't do anything.
This is the Muslim boy killed and woman wounded in Illinois, hate crime motivated by Israel-Hamas war.
You can go to the other side.
Stories on both sides taking place everywhere.
This is the beginning.
And by the way, this is just the beginning.
Trust me, America, especially those that you live in America.
Trust me, America.
You don't want this.
Okay?
You do not want this.
There's a reason why fire is so up right now and people are worried because they're worried that this could come to their backyard.
And FYI, if you're listening to this, you could be a part of that problem because you and I are just seeing one side of the story.
That's all I have to say.
Go ahead.
Yeah, let me put on my pretend I'm a diplomat hat.
So, Pat, when you left Iran in 1990, what year did you leave Iran?
November 28th.
No, no, when I left Iran was July 15th, 89.
Okay, July 89.
You didn't just go straight to America.
You didn't go straight to Germany.
You lived in a what? Refugee camp in Germany.
Okay.
So if I'm going to be a diplomat and try to provide a solution, you know, Israel, Gaza, where they're, where they're, what separates them from Egypt, which I totally agree that there should be a border crossing safe haven for refugees, is something called the Sinai Peninsula.
A refugee camp should be set up, established, and vet everyone that comes into these camps.
Was your family vetted like crazy?
Like, did they want to understand who your father was, who you were?
You were probably 10 years old at the time.
But I'm assuming all the young men, women included as well, but specifically the military-aged men were completely vetted before you were let into the country, or certainly until you were let in America.
Similar, yeah, if you just kind of punch in on the Sinai Peninsula right there.
So that's a solution that could be done here because you can't just basically here's what's happening.
Israel is basically saying, get the hell out of Gaza.
We are coming full force for Hamas.
We do not want to kill civilians.
Please leave.
Now, what is Hamas saying?
Saying, stay.
We need you.
We need you to stay here.
Why?
Because Hamas uses its citizens to protect Hamas, whereas Israel uses the IDF to protect its citizens.
Let me say that again.
Hamas uses its citizens to protect Hamas as human shields, whereas the IDF will use, will protect its citizens.
So if Hamas put down all their guns, all their weapons, there would be peace.
If Israel put down all their guns and all their weapons, they would all be dead.
The moral equivalency is not even close.
So by the way, if you've seen the, speaking of Egypt, let me just highlight some of the countries that have come out pro-Israel, anti-Israel, pro-Hamas.
Here are the countries that have basically come out pro-Israel.
So you just figure out what side you stand on for the countries that I'm about to name.
Countries that are pro-Israel, USA, the UK, Germany, France, Italy, India, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and 70 other democratic free countries.
Countries that are anti-Israel, pro-Hamas, Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, China, Venezuela.
I mentioned Turkey twice.
And all the communist authoritarian regimes.
Again, the horseshoe.
Notice a country that wasn't mentioned.
They're just sort of monolithic and they're not saying anything right now?
Egypt.
They're like, dude, we can't come out and promote peace with Israel, even though they have peace with Israel.
But in no way, shape, or form, using the a neighbor analogy, are we coming out condoning what's going on here, being better than their neighbor.
Of course.
So if, yeah, the thing to me that, you know, civilians, the objective of Hamas is to kill civilians.
The objective of the U.S. Army, the IDF, whether it's the UK, actually democratic, normal, modern world countries is the intention to not kill civilians.
And at the end of the day, I was actually watching an interview on the BBC.
It was the former prime minister Naftali Bennett.
He said this.
He goes, let me ask you something.
He asks this to the reporter.
Let me ask you something.
If someone was shooting at you and your family and they were hiding behind civilians, what would you do?
Would you shoot back?
Answer that.
So everyone should answer that.
If someone was shooting at you, shooting at your family and they were standing behind civilians, okay, what would you do?
What would you do, Vin?
I'm shooting.
You're shooting back.
It's kill or be killed.
100%.
So if someone's trying to kill you, you have two choices.
Try to kill them or be killed.
And that's essentially the situation that's going on in Israel right now is that they're literally trying to kill them.
And they're like, dude, I don't want to have to kill innocent civilians, but you leave me no choice.
And that's essentially the problem.
Pat, you mentioned this.
Forbes wrote the article about conspiracy theorists, like they say, Charlie Kirk, that Israel knew Hamas would attack, right?
Then they contradict themselves.
They write an article the next day that says U.S. intelligent reports included warnings from September and October that the CIA and other Middle Eastern allies knew.
And so they could have prevented it.
And follow me, Pat.
And they're acting like it doesn't matter, but they should have been on high alert.
They were warned September 28th.
They're warned October 5th.
It's just crazy.
Like, when are we going to stop pretending that nobody knew?
And when are we going to hold people accountable?
For instance, they asked John Kirby at the White House reporter for the massive security failure.
You know what his answer was?
Now's not the time.
Like everybody, no, no, no.
I think it's, of course, now is the time.
We're moving forward.
They're about to attack.
I mean, dude, this is like a godsend.
I guess so some more children could leave.
You know why they haven't invaded in Gaza, Pat?
The weather.
There's weather, so everybody's slowing down.
Thank God.
So hopefully more kids get out of there.
But like, decisions are being made.
Just like in when we invaded Iraq, we went in on weapons of mass destruction, war, war, war.
Then we bombed the shit out of everybody.
And then they're like, oh, by the way, no weapons of mass destruction.
Guys, it's too late.
Answers need to be answered, right?
The questions need to be answered.
And here's my question.
Charlie brought this up, Pat.
Is it so far-fetched, I'm being genuine, that a leader that's kind of, you know, controversial, is not going that good for him.
There's brink of civil war in your country.
Is it crazy to let an event like what just happened happen to unify everybody so nobody looks at you and they all look at the issue?
And if it is true, I'm gonna ask you, Adam, if it is true that this genuinely happened, they had intelligence because the proof is in the pudding.
It looks like they did.
And they kind of went like this and let their people die, okay?
Same type of shit with 9-11.
What then?
Adam, real question.
What do the people do?
What do you do?
I'll answer that.
I mean, and Charlie Kirk brought up the question, was a stand-down order ordered?
Yeah.
I think it's two things.
I think it's number one, fair to ask that question.
100%.
But I also think it is unfair to draw a conclusion.
We don't know.
Do you know with 100%?
No, I don't know.
Correct.
But my question is ask the question.
Okay, ask the question.
I'm going to draw the conclusion that B.B. Netanyahu gave a stand-down order, I think, is very unfair and very uninformed by anyone who's asked.
But here's my question.
The fact that there's proof that the CIA knew, intelligence knew, Egyptians warned them days before, and this still happened in the place that is the most secure place besides us.
I mean, I would say that loosely.
Like, right now was the time to answer.
Like, everybody, I know you guys, you're going to war, but time out for one second.
How the hell did you not raise the flag, put security, beef up security?
And I get what you're saying.
It's the question needs to be answered now, not in two years where we go backwards and all these people are dead.
And we go, oh, shit, you know what?
We kind of knew.
And, you know, this guy over here messed up with the intelligence and didn't run it up the flagpole.
That's bullshit.
I think Adam has a point there.
You can go back and you can look at World War II in Pearl Harbor.
And there's books that were written that FDR and the American intelligence knew the Japanese would try to bomb Pearl Harbor.
And that's why the aircraft carriers weren't there.
They were all out on patrols.
They were all out on there.
Well, what genius figured out that if the Japanese were going to attack something, they were coming by boat?
Go take a look at the map.
Yeah.
I don't know what other way they would have arrived.
And so there's a lot of people that say that.
And now you have to say the conclusion.
So I'm with Adam on this one.
The conclusion would be FDR sacrificed 2,000 men at Pearl Harbor so he could get into the Pacific War with Japan.
No, it was good strategy to keep the aircraft carriers out.
Was there bad intelligence or an incomplete intelligence?
Yeah.
But books have been written over the course of history of coulda, shoulda, did you know, when you know.
But I have a hard time believing that B.B. Netanyahu wanted to sacrifice Israeli citizens to get into the war and to permanently remove Gaza as his excuse to get in, just as I don't believe that FDR left vulnerable in Pearl Harbor.
What year was that?
What year was Pearl Harbor?
1941.
1941.
This is 2023.
Our technology, bro, we have satellites that could look through people's houses.
And my cousin Mike told me that, Pat, one of his guys that's in the middle.
We're talking about, I agree.
No, we're talking about intelligence.
Israeli intelligence and our intelligence.
I agree on the technology.
How do you not know?
I do not know.
I agree on the technology, but we're talking about the same human decision.
Whether you're dealing with boats in World War II or you're dealing with Gaza and paragliders, is would that leader trigger to get his country triggered into the war, sacrifice people?
It's the same moral.
And my question was, I just posed the question.
I said, is it so far-fetched that a human being, or Netanyahu, Bush Jr., all these assholes to me, I'm not calling Netanyahu, I'm talking about Bush Jr., you mean to tell me like it's so far-fetched that weapons of mass destruction, because of Bush Jr.'s decision of they have these weapons, he's not stupid, Tom.
They got us into that war and then changed the name of the war after it was.
By the way, by the way, here's what I think.
For the non-emotionally involved party, we should entertain all those ideas.
Okay.
For the non-emotionally involved party, we should entertain all of those ideas.
If I'm in the military, guess what I'm writing down?
I'm writing down all possibilities.
If I'm working with the president right now and one of the advisors, President Biden says, okay, PBD, what do you think happened here?
It's okay.
Let's look at, this is how I would look at the decision.
Let's look at five things.
Hamas, in the last 10 years, have advanced their military so much that they're apparently better than Mossad, better than CIA, better than Navy SEALs, better than special ops, better than IDF, better than everybody.
Maybe that is a possibility.
What's the percentage behind that?
Put a possibility.
1%?
2%?
5%?
Okay, fine.
They're underground, you know, whatever tunnels they built.
It's so advanced, and that's what they're doing.
Cool.
Let's put that as a possibility.
Two, you know, Netanyahu needed confirmation from the world to be able to attack that because he saw the case study of how Russia went against Ukraine.
And in this situation, where things he thinks would be different, in this situation, he is Russia.
But in this situation, the world and NATO would defend Russia.
Meaning, where NATO defended Ukraine, in this situation, Ukraine is Hamas.
Let's just say, I'm saying like, not Hamas, but Palestine.
I got you.
And Russia is Israel.
But imagine if Russia attacks Ukraine and NATO defends Russia.
What would happen to Ukraine?
Oh, my God.
Within a week, they're what?
They're done.
Finito.
Imagine if we gave Russia $100 billion.
There is no Ukraine.
Ukraine is not part of Russia, right?
In this case, Israel is the superpower, the Middle East, let's just say, for on the military side.
Okay, so maybe Israel did this to get the world permission of, you know, the six-hour stand down, all that stuff.
Okay, that is a possibility.
Mr. President, what percentage do you think that's there?
Let's put a number there, whatever that percentage is.
Number three, maybe what's going on, I would go through all of these scenarios and collectively ask for intel, get the smartest guys there, and ask the question, why isn't Egypt letting people in?
If Egypt, if they're so great, why aren't they let them in?
What is the chance of Iran getting involved here?
Who's Russia going to defend?
If Israel does attack Gaza and wipes out 20,000 people, Iran's going to call Hezbollah and Hezbollah attacks.
Should we believe the threat that Hamas makes that if you attack us, we're going to kill these hostages that we have one by one by one, and we're going to air it so you can see how humiliating this is and you're going to feel the pain.
You're killing those people, so the blood's going to be on whose hands?
Netanyahu's hands.
I'm going to put all that stuff up.
Then you have to take a risk.
Nobody knows 100% what's going on.
Every one of those things should be weighed.
However, Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson, okay, I want to read this.
And then Rob, if you can get this clip prepared.
Ben Shapiro condemns Tucker for downplaying attack on Israel.
It's idiocy.
It's just moral stupidity.
Ben Shapiro strongly condemns Tucker Carlson, accusing him of moral stupidity and criticizing them for downplaying the recent attack.
Shapiro called Tucker Carlson comparing between the Israel tragedy and drug abuse deaths in the United States, declaring he's attempting to minimize as though America can't walk and chew gum morally speaking at the same time, which is absurd.
I'll just let you watch this clip to judge it for yourself.
Go ahead, Rob.
100,000 a year.
Now, you could call it genocide.
You can call it whatever you want, but it's the death of over 100,000 Americans a year and the living death of millions of people.
Well, you can't call it genocide.
It's not genocide.
So I don't understand.
Sorry, people who are addicted to drugs and living outside.
And again, I want to add my voice to that because I'm a human being.
But the soundbury outrage.
The outrage among Republican presidential candidates was so much more intent.
One of them took to a bullhorn and started yelling about it.
I get it.
But no one would think to do that about the 100,000 American young people murdered every year.
Because who are you yelling at?
Who are you yelling at?
First of all, people are on bullhorns yelling about drug overdoses and the open border all the time.
All the time.
What is he even talking about?
What he's attempting to do is minimize what happened in Israel.
He's not attempting to maximize what happened in the United States.
He's attempting to minimize as though America can't walk and chew gum morally speaking at the same time, which is absurd.
And those two things are nothing alike.
I'm sorry, that is not alike.
It is not alike for drug smugglers to smuggle drugs over the border, which someone then takes and shoves into their arm and then they dive in overdose.
That is not the same thing.
I promise you, it is not the same thing as a terrorist breaking into your home and murdering your children in their beds in front of you and dragging your wife off to be raped in Gaza.
That is not the same thing.
Pretending that it is is immoral.
It's a moral blight.
It's idiocy.
It's just moral stupidity at the highest level.
Of course we should care about what happens with fentanyl.
Of course we should care about all we should close our border.
Have I been unclear about this?
Of course America should have closed borders when it comes to this sort of stuff.
I'm on the same side as Tucker on that.
I just don't understand why he's not on my side when it comes to Hamas has to be wiped off the face of the earth.
Pause it right there.
What exactly is the counterargum?
Tom.
Adam, go ahead.
Yeah, well, it's interesting to see how this is playing out because this is sort of a fissure of what's going on in the Republican right.
In my opinion, Ben Shapiro just completely owned Tucker Carlson.
Let me unpack that a little bit.
So, trying to draw equivalency between what Hamas is doing or what ISIS did, whether it becomes rapes, mass murder, intentional genocide, versus the active decision to consume drugs over long periods of time in some cases, and then die of an overdose is completely, absolutely absurd, the moral equivalency.
Knowing the risk of partying when you did it.
Correct.
So, and just like Ben said, do we want to fix our borders?
Yes.
Do we want to stop fentanyl from pouring into our country?
Yes.
But at the end of the day, people who are using drugs, very few people take it one time and die.
Very few.
It's a long, slow process.
So the decision to actively take drugs, heroin, pills, cocaine, whatever the drug is, and use it and use it and use it and use it and eventually die.
Okay, you're making this active decision.
Nobody made an active decision in Israel to be sitting in your homes at six in the morning.
Hamas busts in your door and shoots you and your babies in the head.
That is a totally different situation.
So in my opinion, Ben Shapiro is spot on on this one, and Tucker is just blatantly wrong.
Tom, I have my thoughts.
I want to hear your thoughts.
Well, I agree.
You know, Tucker did not sound outraged, and it sounded like he was balancing the argument.
And then Ben gets pretty revved up.
Ben's a hawk, and he gets pretty revved up.
And I think he is correct that you can't draw moral equivalency with a decisionless thing because you happen to be Jewish and you're attacked.
And a decision to be on college campus, aren't you worried about fentanyl?
Yeah, I'm worried about fentanyl.
Just get one of those fentanyl test kits.
You can get those test kits and you can rub the pill on it, see if there's any fentanyl in there.
But yeah, there's a big difference between the two of those.
And I think Tucker was, you know, could have done a better job and left the door open to kind of be owned by Shapiro.
Here's what I would say.
Number one, I think I totally understand Tucker and I totally understand Ben.
Okay, number one, Tucker, what's Tucker's number one loyalty and affiliate?
America.
America first.
What do we talk about?
America first.
He's going to sit there and say, yeah, that's your problem.
First of all, this Sunday, we're with the family, and for whatever reason, Ticon Dylan wanted to watch Zohan.
Okay.
I don't know if you guys know Zohan with Adam Sandler, whatever the movie.
What's the movie called?
The legend of Zohan?
By the way, you know, the whole story is about how he's a IDF killer soldier, comes to the U.S., wants to work for Paul Mitchell, cutting care, and he goes and finally becomes this hairstylist at this salon.
And the owner of the salon is gorgeous girl who's a Palestinian, and they fall in love, and they're trying to bring peace between Palestine and Israel.
What a weird movie to watch at a time like this.
Jen and I are looking at each other laughing.
But at the same time, saying everything he's talking about, they're talking about right now applies to current times.
Okay.
Ben, Tucker's priority is America first.
Of course he's going to be about America.
He's sitting there saying, dude, these guys have been fighting for 2,000 years.
You think I can stop it?
You guys have been fighting for thousands of years.
One day America's going to wake up and stop you guys from fighting?
It's a joke if we think this fight's going to end up anytime soon.
That's how I think that Tucker sees it.
But I also see Ben.
Guess where Ben is from?
There.
That's his family.
That's where he's from.
Of course he's going to be protective of his homeland, his pride.
You know, the voice he has for the Jewish community.
100% he's going to see that from an emotional connection to it.
One has to sit there and entertain both ideas is all I'm saying.
Both could be right and both could be emotionally leaning towards whatever is protective of theirs.
Tucker's gonna protect America and Ben is gonna protect Israel in a way that, hey, we gotta make sure this is number one priority.
To Tucker, no one in the world has been able to prevent this fight from happening for 2,000 years, including God.
You think you can do it?
Let them fight.
They're gonna keep fighting, okay?
Let them fight.
They're gonna go back and forth.
But do we want to involve our soldiers?
Now, America's talking about the fact that a report came out.
We're preparing 2,000 soldiers to be sent out, about 2,000 U.S. troops told to prepare for deployment in response to Israel-Hamas war, Hamas war.
This is an NBC story a couple days ago.
Okay, I'll read the story for you to think about.
So here you go.
So around 2,000 soldiers, 24-hour preparation to deploy orders, ready to provide support to Israel in response to the Hamas-Israel war.
The troops include the diverse capabilities such as medical support and explosive handling.
And we're previously on 96-hour standby.
The U.S. has already deployed the USS, Dwight Eisenhower carrier strike group to the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, showing a solidarity with Israel.
The Israel Defense Forces are amassing forces at the Gaza border, a preparing for coordinated attack involving the ARC and the land.
The conflict began a significant terrorist attack by Hamas and Israel, resulting in over 2,800 casualties in Gaza and 1,400 casualties in Israel.
Guess what?
Those are 2,000 U.S. soldiers.
Those are somebody's kids.
What do you call that?
And what do you call that, Pat?
We're sending the aircraft carriers.
And then, Pat, ready for this?
And you're in the military.
2,000 people ready to go.
They already declared war.
If we go there and we put troops on the ground, what does that mean?
We're at war.
Of course.
We're at war.
And Pat, here's my thing with the Ben Shapiro thing, Tom.
Like, Ben Shapiro, and I get it, bro.
This is a horrible thing.
It's disgusting what happened.
All the people's lives that were lost.
But you can't expect other people to match your emotion in a situation and they're not invested as much as you are.
Ben is furious.
I get it.
I understand it.
But he's expecting Tucker to have the same outrage as him.
And I'm sorry.
It's not.
You can't expect that.
Let me tell you, Vinny, you and I are in America because of Jimmy Carter.
Okay.
At least I'm in America because of Jimmy Carter.
Okay.
Jimmy Carter goes to you, Iran, and all he's talking about is human rights, human rights, human rights.
3,000 political prisoners that Reza Pallavi had, let him loose.
He lets him loose.
Those 3,000 political prisoners led to Osama bin Laden, led to all the other things that happened around the world, led to all these ISIS, all these different things.
At one point, Reza Pallavi had him.
So on the outside, we're like, yeah, Jimmy Carter, human rights.
As if you know who the 3,000 political prisoners are.
Was there some situations that maybe SABAC and others were extreme?
Of course.
Yeah, just like there's stories of Mossad, just like there's stories of CIA, just like there's, of course, yes.
U.S. is also not free from that situation of what CI and Mossad and others have done.
But what ended up happening is they ended up here.
So what's my bigger concern?
Here's my bigger concern.
We live in America, okay?
So it's like, oh, here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
Yeah, but the problem's coming through here through the border.
And here's the problem.
No, no, no.
Listen, while you're looking there, they're coming through the border and they're coming to your home, to your country, to your state, to your city.
Yeah, but watch what's going on in Ukraine and Russia.
Watch what's going on in Israel and Iran.
Bro, for the freaking third time, they're coming through your border.
How are you protecting it?
Is Egypt more concerned about their border than U.S. is concerned about our border?
Can we not take a page out of their playbook to sit there and say, this is why we need a border?
This shouldn't be a Democratic or Republican thing.
This should be an American thing to say, this is a problem.
So watch this.
How long does it take until they do their attack for the people that are coming here?
Is it a month?
No.
Here?
Yeah.
Is it three months?
No.
Is it six months?
No.
It's when everything is good.
No one's paying attention.
Eight years from now, we forgot about this entire mess.
And then, boom, 6,800 people die.
And you say, how did this dust the president's ball?
No, It's going to come back to 2021, 2022, 2023, 2020, when we let the border open.
All of these people came in.
And during this time, half the American people didn't bitch about it.
And then all of a sudden, you're suffering the consequences because you said it's not a big deal.
We should let the people in.
We should get the Democratic Party to get more stronger because it's a lot of Latino voters.
And we know Latino voters are going to vote for the left if we bring them in here.
And then you're going to pay the price.
My concern of America first is: if there's ever been a time to just say, shut the border up for one year.
Made a video the other day talking about policies I would do if I was a president.
Obviously, I'm not running for president.
The laws are not favored in that.
I'm a capitalist.
You know, it's one of the first things I would do today.
I would close the border for one year.
We're not taking anybody for a year.
It's a waiting list.
Remember when I got out of the Army in 99, I wanted to be a firefighter.
And I went to the fire department in Granada Hills, off of Devonshire in Balboa, right across the street from Ralph's.
Off the 101?
No, no, in Granada Hills.
So I go to this recruiting station.
I say, hey, I just got out of the Army, Hunter, First Airborne Division.
I'm in shape.
I'm this, I'm that.
I love America.
I want to be a firefighter.
We got a five-year freeze.
What do you mean?
2003, it opens up.
It's 99.
I said, dude, you guys got to hire me.
I'm fully qualified.
He says, no, there's a five-year freeze.
Five years later, they open up the freeze, but it's too late at that time.
I'm doing good for myself.
What's the moral of the story?
If the fire department can have a freeze, if the LA Department, LAPD can have a freeze, if companies can have a freeze in their hiring, so can we have a freeze in our border for one year.
Shut the southern border down.
Shut it down.
Close it up.
Immediately build a wall.
Fill it up with additional security.
You want to hire 87,000 new IRS agents.
Why don't you hire 30,000 new border agents?
Put them there, protect the freaking place for one year.
This is no longer a joke.
This is serious.
You're seeing what's going on.
They're all the people that are fighting.
You're seeing examples of the way they're doing it.
Protect the southern border because that's where they're coming through.
And then all of a sudden, people will say, well, yeah, that's a little extreme.
Why would we do something like that?
Because that's how you live.
You have doors.
You have walls.
You live in a community where people have to ring the doorbell.
So, you know, 82.
Yes.
Yes, we're here.
Uber Eats.
I didn't order no Uber Eats.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Don't let him in.
Why don't you let him in?
Because it's your border.
It's called your apartment.
It's called your house.
It's called your community.
If you want a border in your apartment, in your house, in your community, why don't you want a border in the southern border of America?
Again, I'm not telling the people that are already with this.
I'm telling the people that are saying, what's the big deal?
That's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, and a great point.
And Adam, I'll give it to you.
Here's the effed up thing, Pat.
The border, after all this, right now, still wide open.
Nothing has changed.
Maorcas hasn't done anything.
If you still have the attitude of what Pat just said, you know what they're going to say, Pat?
You're uncaring.
You're racist.
You don't care.
This is what America is for is open arms.
You understand what I'm saying, Adam?
It hasn't changed one iota.
It's still the same that it was since all this is happening and nothing is stopping.
So here's my question to you guys, Pat.
What can we do, us as a people right now, to try to get that message where it's like, yo, like, shut it down?
Is there anything that there's nothing we could do, right?
Tom?
Nothing.
You got to vote.
You got to talk to you.
Vote what?
No, it's right now, right now.
What's going on?
You and I are not going to, under the Second Amendment, pick up arms and go pick some part of the border that we're going to defend.
That's not the way it works.
You know, we need the leadership of this country and the governors of Texas, the governor of Arizona, the governor now, you know, of, oh, by the way, governors of Illinois and New York.
Because all of those people coming across were supposed to stay in those red states, make life miserable for the red states, and be the replacement vote later.
Look up replacement vote, people.
Google that.
Yeah.
Instead, they are now being shipped to, not by DeSantis sending a couple buses to New York, the federal freaking government sending a dozen buses of them, dropping them in Chicago, dropping them in New York, until you have the governor of New York, governor of Illinois, saying, oh, you know, we don't need the people here.
Well, look, look upstream.
Where is it?
So we need the governors.
We need all of them to get together to say we need sensible border policy because close the border, everybody's going to say racist.
Sensible immigration policy is the way that this needs to be adopted on the wider basis.
Yep.
But Tom, you said it's, you know, we can't, the Second Amendment, we can't just take arms and go.
But in the Constitution, it's for enemies, foreign and domestic.
At one point, we're going to have to be like, yo, listen, if you guys aren't doing it, we'll do it.
There's enough Americans out there, bro, that'll go up there and pulse the hell up.
Like, yo, it's enough.
Because he nailed it, Tom.
Hang on.
I think you just, I appreciate your passion.
But what about all those ranchers that were in Arizona that got arrested?
But Tom, I understand being arrested, but he made a great point.
The government did not let the citizens protect the border of Arizona.
I'm thinking it's bullshit, Tom, because you know what?
He nailed it.
This might not happen this week.
That Hamas loser tried to be like a day of terrorism.
It didn't happen.
It's eventually going to happen because we have no idea who the hell we let in.
Like, enough is enough.
When are we going to stop yapping and do shit?
I'm not saying go there with a gun and be at the border, but like, come on, man.
Enough is enough.
And then we keep bringing Major Cas in Congress and he just sits there with a smirk and smiles and laughs in our faces because they already know the damage has been done, Tom.
The damage is done.
The people are here.
Now it's a waiting game.
It's a waiting game for when they get the call to make shit happen and it's going to happen.
Adams.
Let me kind of try to put a ribbon on this entire argument because it started off the conversation with Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson, comparing the analogy of murder and execution and rape and beheadings to fentanyl crisis.
I hear what Pat is saying, and it's reminiscent of what Trump said: build the wall, and we'll have a big, beautiful door, and we'll vet the hell out of people because we don't want this basically migrant crisis pouring through our country.
Totally understand, totally understand the America First Agenda.
Totally get it.
Totally get it.
What Ben Shapiro said was, you know, America should have the ability to walk and chew gum at the same time, morally speaking.
America, whether you agree with this or not, we have a domestic policy and a foreign policy.
And it's always been that case.
Are we going to be isolationists and only pretend that we exist in America in a bubble and the rest of the world doesn't exist?
I think that is a nonsensical solution.
It's never been that way.
Exactly.
It's never been that way.
Are we going to be absolute interventionalists and dip our toes into every single conflict that exists around the world?
We'll drive ourselves crazy doing that.
But we've kind of done that.
Exactly.
So the point is there needs to be a balance and there need to be a new nuanced perspective to how this works.
So the reason that we're going to bat for Israel at this point is because they're our ally in the Middle East.
It's a fair exchange of value.
A lot of it has to do with military intelligence and basically information that occurs in the Middle East.
Who else are we going to come to their defense?
Are we coming to Iran's defense?
Saudi Arabia?
Are we helping Lebanon?
Who do we trust it?
We trust Syria, Bashar al-Assad.
There are one ally that we know we can 100% depend on in the Middle East.
And ultimately, here's the point.
So America is a land of immigrants.
We all come from someplace.
So if you don't speak up when something is completely morally and historically wrong, like the murder of people intentionally, how do you let this happen?
What do you stand for, America?
Who do you believe in?
When do you speak out?
So when this happens in Armenia and there's Armenian genocide, do we say, hey, that's none of our business?
When it happens in Mexico, hey, Mexicans, hey, it's none of our business.
When this happens in Ireland, it's none of our business.
At some point, we have to say, we're freaking America.
We stand for something.
And we're not just going to let innocent people be murdered.
By the way, absolutely valid argument, valid point.
As a person who's Armenian and seeing what's going on with Nagorno-Karabag and Azerbaijan and all that stuff, I fully understand being emotionally there, okay?
I fully understand.
But he wasn't there when it was Armenia, this was happening.
He wasn't fully there with all of it, right?
Why?
Because it should matter to you the most because it's personal.
This issue should be the most important thing for you because it's your homeland, right?
It should be personal to me as a person who lived in Iran.
And when the Shah was there and Israel was there, there was peace in the Middle East and people could go for vacation in the Middle East and go to Iran.
We can't do that today.
Armenian genocide should be emotional, personal to me because I am half Armenian and Assyrian and what the genocide did to Assyrians and Armenians 100% should be personal to me.
But the other person that's sitting there saying, dude, should everyone's problems be mine, that person also has a very good argument to make.
Look at this Wall Street Journal article that came out a couple days ago.
Mexican Senate law cartel's message to members, stop making fentanyl or die.
The Senalo cartel, known for exporting fentanyl to the U.S., has ordered a halt to product fentanyl production and trafficking within its territory, driven by pressure from U.S. law enforcement.
The directive is attributed to Chapitos led by Joaquin El Chapo, Guzman Sons.
The Biden administration has been urging Mexico to take aggressive steps to dismantle the Senalo cartel, which is a major fentanyl trafficking group.
U.S. deaths from fentanyl have become a political issue with calls from some Republicans to send U.S. military into Mexico to battle to combat fentanyl trafficking.
Some individuals in Sinaloa have faced violence and death for defying the ban, while others are reluctant to shut down their operations due to strong demand for fentanyl in the U.S.
So can you imagine the Mexican Senate Law cartel is saying, stop making it?
That's a feel-good story.
That's murderers with morals.
That's a murderers with morals.
That's the Italian mob story, right?
Yeah.
Hey, we don't do drugs.
We don't do this.
We don't do that.
If you do it, we're going to take you out.
And if you did do it, you got in trouble, although a lot of people ended up doing it.
So when it's that profitable, you're going to do it.
Go ahead, Tom.
There's a great scene in The Godfather where movies sort of give us a window into reality.
And it's when Marlon Brando says he did not want the drugs.
And he called gambling prostitution harmless vices.
Remember the speech he gives?
And he says, I'm not in favor of the drugs.
He's talking about salazzo.
I'm not in favor of the drug thing.
And he says, but harmless vices, I meant, you know, you don't know whether this is window dressing or whether these guys are looking saying, listen, you know, next year there's an election and a feel-good story for the Americas in the election is they send a couple Apache helicopters over here and they take out my house.
So you guys better knock it off.
And as a matter of fact, maybe I need to knock off a few low-level guys to make this look good.
Is it that way that they're really, they're doing it and they're supported by China and they're doing it anyway, but they're running a PR campaign where a couple low-level drug dealers get knocked, you know, get hit and they make it look like they're trying to toe the line because they do not want the U.S. military to come in there.
We did a very good job.
Did you hear what you just said?
Go back and repeat what you just said.
They don't want the U.S. military?
I'll go back a story prior to that.
Did they knock off a couple of them to make it look good?
It's a PR campaign.
Exactly.
Do you understand?
Do you understand what this person was saying?
What I said earlier, what you just said.
That's the part to give permission to be like, so that's the part why you ought to consider that as a possibility, even though if it's a one or two percent.
So there's a part of me that reads this story and thinks it's the cartel's public PR firm is a strong PR firm.
Can you imagine?
Anyway, we represent the cartels, the Mexican, the Santa Loa cartel in New York.
It's one of the biggest PR firms.
Burson Marsteller here, the largest PR firm in the United States.
And we now.
Our portfolio includes.
By the way, this is not a time for jokes, but I remember there was a long ago, there was a mockery that was done because they invaded this major distribution place that was in Colombia that was wrapping it all up.
And there was this room where you saw these pictures and the boxes of these Ziploc freezer bags.
There was like 50,000 boxes of these Ziploc freezer bags in there.
And so it says some salesman at the GLAAD Ziploc, it says, really made quota on these guys.
Who's one of your bigger customers?
Well, you know, the cartel's down there.
They need the one-pound freezer bags for the cocaine.
And boy, I got that pool in my backyard because I cut the deal.
So Ziploc could have given some intel of where they're buying, where they're shipping these bags to get more information on.
Adam, give me your final thoughts before we go.
You're talking about a PR campaign.
It's essentially a PR campaign or even propaganda is to give the illusion or the facade that you're doing one thing when you're actually kind of doing another or to sort of expound upon what the greatness is, but maybe sort of mitigate what the thing is.
Don't look now, but what is Joe Biden doing?
Because this article right here basically says the Biden administration has been urging Mexico to take aggressive steps to dismantle the Sinaloa cartel, the major fentanyl trafficking group.
Okay, boom.
What are we seeing low-key from Joe Biden these days?
Well, he's kind of building a little bit of a wall.
Not sure if you noticed.
Kind of talking about that.
He's clearly taking a hard line with Mexico, low-key.
So what's the PR?
What's the facade?
Listen, we love immigrants.
We love all that.
But low-key, he's trying to play tough with Mexico.
You know what he's doing?
He's realizing everything, all the policies Trump had were successful.
So let me replicate those policies without being too loud about it.
Because if God forbid people find that it's their policies, I'm going to be in trouble because they're duplicating what he's doing.
Anyways, let me go to the next story here, Tom, and I want to get your feedback on this with oil.
So, one, U.S. to ease sanctions on Venezuelan oil for freer presidential election.
Interesting, these three stories.
I'll combine them together and I'll give it to Tom.
Very interesting here.
The Biden administration in Venezuela, this is from WAPO, Washington Post.
The Biden administration and Venezuelan President Maduro's government have reached a breakthrough deal in which the U.S. will ease sanctions on Venezuelan oil industry in exchange for commitment from the authoritarian regime to hold a competitive internationally monitored presidential election in 2024.
The relief and sanctions will be announced once an agreement is signed, including commitments by the Venezuelan government to ensure a fair vote.
Under the agreement, Maduro has agreed to process for lifting bans on opposition candidates running in its elections.
It also includes commitments to Maduro's government to accept international electoral observations and open media access for elections.
Actually, very, very interesting.
Let me continue with the other two stories.
ExxonMobil buying Pioneer Natural Resources for nearly $60 billion in its biggest deal.
In that case, this is a Forbes story.
Okay.
This is a Forbes story.
In this story, you see Exxon set to acquire Pioneer Natural Resources, a $60 billion all-stock deal, marking the largest deal for Exxon since its merger with mobile in late 1990s.
The acquisition will acquire, will value Pioneer at $253 a share with Pioneer shareholders receiving approximately 2.32 shares of ExxonMobil for each share they own.
acquisition will give ExxonMobil a pioneer share 850,000 net acres in the Permian basin in West Texas, effectively doubling its output in the region, which accounted for 18% of all natural gas.
And last but not least, lithium discovery in U.S. volcano could be the biggest deposit ever found.
A significant lithium deposit has been identified in a volcanic crater along the Nevada, Oregon border, potentially containing between 20 to 40 million tons of lithium metal, which surpasses previous deposits found in Bolivia.
The discovery carries substantial global implications, affecting lithium prices, supply chain security, and geopolitical dynamics in the lithium market.
Mining operations are projected to commence in 2026, aiming to extract lithium from the claystone in an energy-efficient and low-acid consumption manner.
Tom, why do these stories matter to the average American?
We've been talking about the Middle East, and the Middle East is where there's a lot of energy, and the U.S. has been a net natural gas exporter.
This increases our independence and increases our ability to stand on the world stage and to support Canada and other people with energy needs.
So take a look.
Venezuela.
Venezuela is right across the Gulf from Galveston and Houston, Texas, where we have giant refineries down there.
And by the way, so Venezuela, it's sort of comical.
Hey, if you promise, promise, promise to be good tonight, I'll give you ice cream.
Okay, if you promise to have fair and open elections in Venezuela and stop knocking off opposition candidates, tell you what, I'll take off the sanctions on your Venezuelan oil.
Remember, Venezuela is a member of everyone, everyone?
OPEC.
OPEC!
Yes.
They're the red-headed stepchild way across the Atlantic Ocean.
And so that brings Venezuelan oil here so that we can take advantage of that.
Exxon buys up this so that they could do, and you've heard it before, you hear when the conservative candidates say it.
What should our energy policy be?
Drill, baby, drill.
Well, guess what?
Exxon just found more places to drill, baby, drill because West Texas, WTI, when you see in the Wall Street Journal, the average price for light sweet crude, Saudi Arabia, and for WTI crude, WTI is West Texas Intermediate, and the Permian Basin is this giant, giant basin over there in Midland Odessa, Texas, where we have all this crude.
So this is Exxon getting access to even more crude.
Why is this important?
Well, to get the prices for gas artificially down about a year ago, Joe Biden drained what's called the SPR, Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
That's where we keep oil, that if there's a major calamity, maybe it's weather, maybe it's a hurricane that takes out Galveston.
You don't know what it could be, but that was supposed to be the place that we dip to it in a time of emergency.
Instead, what he did, he was trying to drop the price of gas artificially on the short-term basis.
And people said, you know, you shouldn't be doing this.
And now you have to refill it.
So this is all part of further, further American energy independence and America as an energy power.
The globalists don't want us to be an energy power.
They want us to be dependent.
That's why the Greens line up with the globalists to say, oh, don't drill, no pipelines, and don't go into Anwar.
Anwar basically is drilling in Alaska where there's a ton of oil, ladies and gentlemen.
So this is what this is all about.
Whose victory is this?
This is a victory for United States energy independence.
That's great.
And finally.
And Biden is doing what Trump was doing with Venezuela.
Why shouldn't they be allowed to take their oil over to us?
Why don't we buy it?
What I'm telling you is all signs of every policy that was working under Trump.
Biden is finally realizing if you want to get reelected, you got to use those policies because that's exactly what's important to America.
Wall, oil independence.
You're seeing all these stories secure.
Well, they're not doing a border side.
By the way, by the way, the lithium discovery is an unexpected good news for the American.
That's fantastic news.
Because the military.
How does Musk feel about that?
How does Musk feel about that?
He's been in, he's taking an exceptionally long shower this week.
Is he launching a missile?
He needed a big cold shower because he's really happy about this because it means we don't have to rely over time as this becomes, as this discovery becomes mined and available for sale, it means you don't have to rely on China, Chile, or very expensive lithium extraction from seawater to get this heavy mineral that you need to make batteries for electric vehicles.
And there's a lot more to it.
Those batteries that you see Tesla cells that go on the wall of garages that could basically power the house for a day and a half, that's a big part of it too.
All about less reliance globally.
And this is exactly the stuff that Trump would have been on top of.
Quick anecdote for you, Tom, because great explanation.
I appreciate that.
You said, how does this affect America?
Well, I'll tell you how this affects my life and affects our lives here in South Florida.
So you may be familiar that in the 1980s and even prior to that, there was the Cuban entrance into Miami.
Basically, Cubans helped build Miami along with a lot of local Jewish community.
And, you know, there's something called Little Havana and Cayocho.
And there's a major, major Cuban presence in Miami.
B.B. Rebozo.
There you go.
So slowly but surely, Little Havana and everything that's going on has sort of been shifting towards what I call Little Caracas because that's the capital of Venezuela.
Venezuelans are pouring into, legally speaking, pouring into Miami and basically setting up shop in Miami and saying, we ain't going back to frickin' Venezuela.
So that's great that there's diplomatic relations kind of going on, the oil, the sanctions, everything going on right there.
But here's the one thing they should know.
When the Cubans first came here, they were anti-communist, anti-socialist, anti-Fidel Castro, and they voted with the Republican Party, with Reagan, and Nixon socially shirt up that block.
What's happening right now, I know we talked about the open borders and sort of the Latin American countries and Mexico pouring in and basically under the Democratic guise of remember who let you in.
Don't forget these people who are basically leaving the Maduro regime via Chavez regime will definitely be remembering the socialist communist lifestyle and remember that when they vote for most likely Republicans in the upcoming election, assuming they're allowed to vote.
Okay, so that's that.
Let's get to the next story.
I think we got a couple more stories here to go through before we wrap up.
One of the stories, Vinny, I'm going to go to this here and then I'm going to get into the Jada Pinkett story.
Here's a story from Military Times.
Nearly 70% of active members are overweight, report fines.
70% of active military duty is overweight.
So a report of American Security Department reveals that two-thirds of Americans of soldiers, active duty members fall within an overweight or obese category.
The body mass index BMI, the obesity rate within a military based on BMI has more than doubled over the past decade, rising from, are you kidding me? Rising from 10 to 21%.
The report emphasizes need for addressing this issue, particularly in the context of military recruitment and readiness to grow an obesity rate amongst service members are seen as alarming, affecting the military's ability to recruit an adequate labor force.
The report recommends reviewing body composition standards, referring troops with high BMI to specialized doctors for obesity treatment, including BMI data and report provided to Congress.
What is the recruiting and retention?
What are we talking about here?
What's your thoughts on this issue?
Well, first of all, Pat, the numbers for recruitment is at an alt.
Tom, nobody's joining the military.
I'm actually worried, Pat, because not only 70% out of shape is absolutely ridiculous, which is doubled in the past 10 years.
Look at how what else has the military been doing this year?
We lost for a week an F-35, $85 million plane.
They had no idea where the hell it was.
And then they came out and asked the public, hey, do you guys know where it is?
It's like, wait a minute, you're the military.
I mean, how are you asking us where a stealth fighter is?
I mean, apparently, I think they found it.
It crashed somewhere in the ocean.
But Pat, I'm genuinely worried because besides the weight, besides the losing technology, not keeping up with what's happening in the world with intelligence, we're paying, the military pays for girls to have boob jobs.
And if you want to transition, they're paying for people to have transition surgery.
Your tax dollar, your tax dollar is going for that.
The military is getting weak.
And with all the stuff that's happening in the world, this is the worst time to have overweight, woke surgery-having people that are like when, because Tom, we've gotten lackadaisical because nothing has happened.
There's hasn't been no wars.
There hasn't been no deployments.
It's a scary thing because I'm not saying, Pat, we need practice, but something needs to happen with the training and something needs to happen, Tom, to keep them on their toes.
Because if 70% are overweight, God forbid some ground invasion shit happens.
I think we're in bad shape.
Tom.
I agree.
I think it's part of a bigger and longer five-week podcast on America's health and what's going on.
But I think this is disgraceful.
But I go upstream.
Why can't we get young people with a patriotic eye to serve their country?
Well, we used to look at what's happening in the schools and stuff.
We're having trouble recruiting them.
And the ones we can recruit, we're having, what they're saying is, I can't get enough people that are in shape that want to defend their country.
So I'm having to expand the criteria to people who are softer and bigger.
And I think that's Pat, not to go off, Pat, do you like, no wonder why numbers are down.
If you wave a flag, people are like, you're racist.
Patriotism is at an all-time low.
You can't even say that you love being American because people think that it's a shitty thing to say.
That doesn't surprise me.
So by the way, just beautifully put together.
Number one, love of the country.
You have to have that.
You got to have love and pride for the country you represent.
Others have it.
Our educational system is not increasing love and pride in our country.
That's number one.
Number two, that's a very good point, Tom.
Number two, our standards have dropped.
Okay.
We are trying to be way too soft, allowing trans, allowing, you know, it's okay to do LGBTQ and to do this and to do that.
We have to be more such and such.
Your enemy doesn't give a shit if you're gay, stray, trans, or black, or white, or Hispanic.
They don't care.
They want to kill you.
And the only thing you can do to protect your country is to be seen, feared, and respected.
And the enemy today doesn't fear us and they don't respect us.
Why would anybody respect an enemy who's out of shape?
This guy's going to run out of breath after 30 seconds of I can't do this.
Can you tell them to stop?
Let's take a break.
Nobody takes a break in war.
There are no timeouts in war.
And again, there may be timeout.
Hey, coach, I'm out of breath.
You can't go and say, hey, Hamas, let's take a quick 30-second timeout on this war here.
Let's take a quick 30 seconds.
Let's take a full time out, full time out to get a break.
That doesn't happen in war.
So it's pretty embarrassing and pathetic to say the least.
I'll add one thing is that, you know, on my show in the SASCAS, we have all these women on and we have these conversations about what's going on with modern day feminism and basically the body positivity movement.
And I'm not sure if you've seen the latest Victoria Secret Fashion situation and just all shapes and sizes and sort of redefining what beautiful is.
And there's zero fat shaming allowed.
There's zero accountability.
Hey, you could as big as you be as big as you want to be.
And the problem with that is that we didn't essentially look on the other side of the equation when it comes to men.
Men have no problem being like, dude, you're a complete slop.
You're completely out of shape.
Get it together.
But women will not do that to each other.
They will not hold each other accountable.
If someone's big, they're like, oh, you're big.
You're a queen or whatever.
But to see that happening in the military to today is just sort of indicative of where we're at.
You know, they said the military's gone woke, woke up, broke.
Exactly.
The new Victoria's, but it's, I don't know if this is a food thing.
Are you saying bring back fat shaming in the military?
Is that kind of what you're saying?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Slight bullying.
I mean, at least you're not being.
And Pat, it's funny.
It's funny you brought up the gays and the military.
By the way, their numbers are so down.
It went from when we were in to don't ask, don't tell.
Now it's we don't give a shit.
We need you.
And this is a fun, this is random, Pat, but this is a fact.
Did you know in 1994, our government tried to use gay as a weapon?
Did you know that?
They proposed to bill, the Department of Defense, $7.5 million to create a gay bomb, a bomb, a chemical that when it blew up, Google, if you think I'm lying, Rob, look it up.
Pat, this chemical would hit the enemy, Pat, and make them irresistible to each other.
Something tells me, Venny, go ahead.
That leaked somehow here in America.
Okay, there you go.
Gay bomb, informally known as a non-lethal psychochemical weapon concept that was speculated upon a research laboratory within the United States Air Force.
The unconventional idea involved the dispersion of sex furrows over enemy forces with the intent of generating mutual sexual attracting among them, causing mass confusion and panic within their platoons.
Dating back to 94, the Wright Laboratory in Ohio, a persecutor to the modern United States Air Force Research Laboratory, drafted a three-page proposal detailing several potential non-lethal chemical weapons, a document eventually acquired by Sunshine Project.
Science Freedom of Informative Act Requests explores the notion of the gay bomb among other concepts.
Can you imagine this, Adam?
We're fighting in the Middle East, and there's two Middle Easterns like in a foxhole and the gay bomb hits and he's like, the smokeless like, Amir, are you okay?
He's like, no, he's like, what can I do to help?
He's like, well, back there.
Like, dude, could you imagine using, like, that's the type of money that they were wanting to spend.
Too good jokes with this.
How funny is that?
But it's a fact.
Wow.
You told me to find gems.
That's a joke.
Maybe they dropped a lot of gay bombs in a few different places in America.
Stop that.
If you ever go down the rabbit hole of CIA and Department of Defense drug and other testing, you will find that they were trying anything.
A lot of it didn't work, but they were trying anything and they would experiment with it.
Let's go to the last story.
Yeah, too late.
Let's show the last story, Pat.
Have you seen Jada Pinkett's recent book?
Have you read it?
I have not read it.
God for sure he had read it.
So Jada Pinkett, if you want to pull up the story so I can read this, she just recently wrote a book.
Pull up the New York Post story.
Will Smith's, Will Smith, heartbroken, shocked over Jada Pinkett's book, Worthy.
Take a rest.
Go a little lower to read this year.
So Will Smith speaks continuously about the bottom shelves of his Estrange Wife, Jada Smith, and our new ma More Worthy.
The 55-year-old Oscar winner pinned a letter to British podcaster author and life coach A. Shetty, who read the message to Jada Pinkett on an episode of her podcast.
I just turned the final page of Worthy, wrote Smith.
It is amazing to realize that despite having lived most of my life by your side, I still find myself shocked and stunned, caught off guard, laughing, then inspired, then heartbroken, I was all over the place.
He continued.
It's one thing to hear anecdotes at a family barbecue, but it was truly overwhelming to take your take in your story potential potently condensed in this way.
Smith seemed to have a largely positive effect on Pinkett Smith, who married in 1997.
And regards to their own actions, I know it wasn't easy to execute that this way.
I applaud you and honor you in the letter.
If I had read this book 30 years ago, I definitely would have hugged you more.
I'll start now.
Welcome to Authors Club.
I love you endlessly.
Now get home, get some Merlot, and take a rest.
And he says, You know, I can't drink some Merlot.
And by the way, apparently, in the memoir, they have been separated for seven years.
2016.
So they've been apparently separated.
So Austin happened afterwards.
So they've been separated for seven years.
So when the Oscar thing happened, Pat, you realize Oscar, Austin, the guy.
Their friend's best friend or whatever.
But go ahead.
What are your thoughts on this?
I have some thoughts myself.
Okay, well, first of all, the book's called Worthy.
It could easily be called Emasculation, a Will Smith story.
Like, how, like, first and foremost, Pat, Jada, she could do whatever she wants.
You could party.
You could hook up with all your friends, 19-year-old, your son's friends.
You could do, like, why do you have to put it out in the public eye?
Like, and I get it, Pat.
She's selling a book.
It's almost like Colin Kaepernick.
When he had his book coming out, guess what he said?
Hey, everybody's racist, even my white parents who adopted me.
Like, it's a trend when somebody wants the eyeballs, but it, and there's a fun, not a fun fact, but the fact that, you know, when they did the whole Oscar slap, when he was like, keep my effing wife's name out your mouth, they weren't married.
So when he said wife, she was like, he's not talking to me, but this all comes down to.
I have a complete different theory, but go ahead.
Okay, complete theory.
And then, Pat, mind you, she even said, like, this is all stuff that you don't say, stuff like Tupac's my soulmate.
Like, what?
Like, this is all information that you take to the grave to yourself.
You're hugged, like, Will Smith's legacy, Pat.
His name is no matter from now on, for the rest of your life, when you look at him, are you going to think of I am legend and Independence Day?
No, you're thinking about this embarrassing ass moment, and it's just horrible, Adam.
Like, don't you?
It's almost like he's the fresh prince of bald hair.
Anything else?
Let me tell you what.
Here's what I got.
Here's what I got.
Okay, so again, I like to say what the different possibilities are of what's going on here.
Okay, one, I believe this book was written with that seven years to publicly save Will Smith from being humiliated that his wife hooked up with, you know, whatever that Augustine, whatever the guy's name is, right?
Okay, so that's one.
So that kind of is like, oh, so they weren't together.
So apparently they weren't together.
They were separated.
It's not a big deal.
It's really, you know, it's just kind of what happened.
It's pretty embarrassing.
You know, everybody here has been, you've either cheated or you've been cheated on.
And if you've been on the cheated on Sand, it's heartbreaking, devastating, publicly embarrassing.
And it's not a nice season of your life when you go through it.
Okay.
Two, while she's writing this book, you know, a marketing scheme, okay, to do that.
Okay, cool.
Three is Will Smith talking the way he does.
You ever seen a movie Original Sin with Angelina Jolie and Antonio Banderos?
You ever seen that movie?
Original Sin.
Have you seen Original Sin?
Holy fuck.
Oh, that's the movie I gotta watch.
So the movie, for those of you that have seen Original Sin, comment below if you've seen it, if you know what I'm talking about.
The story is about the fact that, you know, Antonio Banderas is this like rich, successful.
Let me read the, just go to the, to read like the, yeah, go to Wikipedia, just kind of give you an idea what it's about.
So Antonio Banderas is in love with her.
And no matter what she does to him, he cannot let her go.
Okay.
He just cannot let her go.
She's pretty much destroying him publicly to everybody, but he keeps coming back.
Okay.
So maybe he's in love with her.
Like Antonio Banderas is in love with Angelina Jolie in Original Sin.
You have to watch it.
Very weird.
I wouldn't watch it.
Very weird movie.
Number three.
Number three.
Maybe Will Smith is being held hostage.
Okay.
Maybe she has him hostage because she has intel on him for the past 20-something years with things he likes sexually, other men.
She's got dirt, she's got that.
And so Will Smith's like, dude, I am so in jail and nobody knows it.
Oh, good point.
And because I'm in jail, I have to say all of this stuff because God forbid if I don't.
She is, do you believe she's the type of a person that could come out and become Amber Her 2.0 and want to destroy Will Smith's life?
Do you believe she could do that?
100%.
I don't put it past.
Now, here's the thing you have to realize that most, you know, how everybody, the other day, we had the Tommy Mattola and Thalia.
They came into the building and having a meeting together.
And Leo's like, oh, my, he's in the middle of a call and he drops the zoom, runs up to her.
He's like, oh my God, Thalia.
And then Clarissa texts me saying, you know, that was his.
That was his love of his life when he was younger, a teenager, because Thalia was like the girl.
Wow.
So anyways, to me, it was Jada Pinkett.
Okay.
I watched Jason's lyric and I was in love.
Okay.
This was my girl.
I can tell you the playlist of, you know, Jason's lyric from, you know, If You Think You're Lonely Now, Wait Until Tonight.
You know, that was the song in that soundtrack.
There's another one.
Many Rivers to Cross.
Beautiful song.
It's a great soundtrack.
I would play it on repeat regularly.
I was in love with Jada.
Jada was my girl at 18 years old.
This is going to be the girl I'm going to be with.
Okay.
Well, thank God Will got her instead of me.
I'm thankful for Will.
But anyways, this was somebody that I loved.
Her movies, the stuff she was on, set it off.
She was in all these different scenes.
And I'm a two-part guy, so there's an element there as well.
But for me, I think it's embarrassing.
I feel bad for Will Smith.
I feel bad for what's going on.
I feel embarrassed for the way this is being handled.
There's a lot of things you should do to sell books.
If you're going to be advertising the person you're still married to and advertise all his business, all your business publicly, it's not my style.
I'm not turned on by that kind of a thing.
It is a modern day thing that a lot of people do.
But I think Will Smith is in jail.
And I think Will Smith needs to go have dinner with Johnny Depp and hang out with him for a weekend somewhere in France and have some wine together and enjoy it.
Maybe he can have Merlot with Johnny Depp and talk over what's going on.
That's embarrassing.
Although I don't think Johnny Depp drinks Merlot.
No.
We're not drinking Merlot.
I know you've talked about your relationship with Jada.
I have a question for Vinny.
So it sounds like you almost think that – so have you ever been in love?
Of course.
You have?
Yeah.
What happened?
Shit happened.
I was in the military.
I was young.
I made mistakes.
I completed.
I was an idiot.
So how long ago was that?
In love?
Yeah.
Six years ago.
Okay, so it's been quite some time.
I remember the time we loved.
Will love.
They made love.
So you're basically saying that you think that Will's almost a victim in this situation?
Of course, because she's putting his information out there and they have kids and shit.
So, but why didn't he just officially leave her then?
Adam, because we're like, and again, you always think that you're the relationship guru and it's bullshit.
I'm sorry.
Oh, no.
When's the last time you were in love?
I love how you're trying to change the business.
The person you love right now.
This isn't.
No, this is bullshit.
I'm just, I'm posing a question.
No, you are trying to attack because you think you're talking shit and it's bullshit and it's stupid.
Like, what?
Because I haven't been in love.
When's the last time you were in love?
I'm currently in love.
When's the last time you were in love?
Bullshit.
Adam.
Really?
Vinny.
Which girl is it?
I asked you a simple question.
It almost sounds like you're like defending Will Smith.
He has no autonomy or authority over his own life and he's a victim and Adam.
You've given me advice about relationships is probably the funniest shit I've ever heard.
Maybe you're 45 years old.
Maybe you should use some fucking advice.
You're fucking 43 and you're single too.
No problem.
Not single anymore, guys.
Are you divorced?
Yeah, I was.
All right, so hard.
Pat, are you giving me fucking?
I'm just saying that, like, Adam, you're stupid.
You to just talk shit about him.
You should be fucking embarrassed with yourself.
Seriously.
How are you going to talk?
Will Smith looks like a cuck.
He looks stupid.
You look stupid.
You look really good.
Because I'm saying that Will has the ability to make his own decisions and he decides to say that.
Adam, you're dumb as shit.
You're talking shit.
What is me having to be in love and whatever?
I'm looking for the right one.
I always defend you.
Adam, Adam.
Vinny, I always defend you.
Like, you think I'm being an antagonist right now?
Ask a simple question.
It's a simple question, but I know who you are as a person.
I know who you are, Vinny.
I see what the people say behind your back.
If we go on the chat right now, they're all talking shit about you.
All right, sure.
Pat, I love you, but Adam, fuck you, Adam.
It's really, bro.
It's BS.
Okay.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, you are.
What?
Let's go outside then.
You're going to be that guy.
I'm not going to go outside.
You want to meet me there after the next one?
Yeah, let's go.
How about this?
I'll walk off the podcast right now.
Go ahead.
When you walk out, I'll be waiting for you.
Go ahead.
All right, cool.
Do you want to play that game?
Yeah, let's play that game.
Like the chat talking shit about you.
Like the chat isn't talking shit about him right now, Pat.
Is the chat talking shit about him, Pat?
Is the chat talking shit about Adam?
Adam.
If anybody wants to talk about mortgage rates, I'm over here.
No, the hell with the mortgage rate.
What?
It's bullshit.
One more thing.
What?
What?
One more thing.
What?
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday.
You guys are good.
That was my gift.
That was a show.
That was a show.
Best birthday present.
I love a good fight.
I love a good fight.
That was a sick fight, huh?
Look at the camera.
Look at the camera.
Is it good?
Is it good?
Move on, move on.
Dude, I was sick.
That was great.
I'm like, I'm entertained.
I'm letting this thing go.
I got a dream.
You want to go now, bro?
You want to go, Vinny?
Hey, guys, was that belief?
Pat, was that believable?
That was sick.
That was good.
I saw the door open up.
I've seen Kelly.
I'm like, I see what's going on here, but I was impressed.
This was very good.
Did you believe it?
Thank you so much, guys.
Did you believe that Vinny and I were going to be?
Here's what matters.
The audience believed it.
Oh, wait, not over here.
I'm trying to go in.
I'm like, I got to talk.
I got to talk a lot.
But, Pat, can I say one thing?
I have to write it down because I have so much to memorize.
But, Pat, you're not just a CEO.
You're a friend.
You're a mentor.
You're an amazing father.
You're a great husband.
You're a great son to Gabriel.
Your guidance, inspiration, leadership has set a bar for all of us for excellence.
You challenge everybody every day in our life to be better versions of ourselves, including me.
You've changed my life tremendously.
You've shown us what it means to lead in both vision and compassion.
So, Pat Nazia, I want to wish you a happy birthday filled with love, continued success, and may your journey ahead be as bright as your path that you've illuminated for all of us.
I love you.
My man, love you, bro.
I almost did want to punch Adam in the face, bro.
I will still meet you outside.
Last time you were loved.
I'm like, shut up.
Yeah, so I don't have an eloquent speech as Vinny did.
I had to, like, Vinny's a professional comedian actor.
I actually had to get into the moment and just like focus on that.
But, Vinny, well done that we had this sort of planned.
But just to kind of echo what Vinny's saying, PBD, you know how much people respect you and love you.
And I know you don't like compliments, but just know that we're all with you.
We're riding with you.
We're not going anywhere.
We love you, brother, mentor, father, son.
You do so much for us.
Thank you for leading us.
My man.
And Gabriel, my man.
Gabriel, thank you for having him because the world is a better place than you went in.
What a freaking mayhem.
What I'd like to do is.
You know what, Tom?
Stay out of this, buddy.
This is fucking good.
You want to go, Tom?
Keep your mortgage rate and shove them up your ass, Tom.
Yeah, Joe.
Did you even go to freaking medical school?
BizDa?
BizDaw?
What are you a doctor of?
Doctor of war.
Boring out of case studies?
Take these tarts and shove them up your ass.
Just kidding, Tom.
We love you.
We love you.
Wow.
Boy, that went crazy.
You know, in a day, I'll finish with this.
In a day, we're working in here covering conflict and a world that's really good.
Thank you, everybody.
Thanks, babe.
You know what?
Mario, you're looking thick.
Mario, you look sexy, dude.
Boy, Tom, don't lose your message, Tom, because I want to hear it.
I thought Pat was a bit of a bad person.
Thank you.
No, I think on a day most people don't see.
On a day when there's so much conflict in the world and there's so much bad news that we're covering, you know, if you understood the team atmosphere and everything, what we built here, and I say thank you, Pat, for allowing me to be a part of it.
You know, thank you for bringing me to PHP when you did.
And thank you for taking me on the next ride because I've loved every bit of it.
And I just say happy birthday.
Thank you for being my friend.
I am just thrilled to be here.
And again, when there's so much conflict in the world, we're coming together with a real purpose and everything.
I thank you for being part of that purpose and taking us on this ride.
Appreciate you guys.
Appreciate you guys.
There's nothing like working with people that you love to come work with that work doesn't feel like work.
It's just I'm having a blast with the people that we're spending time with.
Future looks bright.
What a weird set of ways you guys wish me a happy birthday, but this goes down as one of the best.
Was it good?
I only got 50,000 people watching live.
I think they wanted to see us fight.
They do.
And by the way, if we ran a poll, 82% think Vinny would win the party.
