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1:56 - Reaction To DeSantis 2024 Launch On Twitter
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All right, episode 274.
As usual, we're starting right on time, 8.30.
Always.
And Rob, please be respectful.
I think since a lot of things have been starting late this week, I think it was appropriate for us to do the opposite.
And I was going to say, let's have some glitches.
Let's have the internet go on.
Let's have the audio issues, all this stuff, but let's just make it work.
Exactly.
Yes.
Anyways, hey, it's good to be here with you guys.
We got a lot of stuff to talk about today, gang.
A lot of stuff to talk about.
Obviously, there was an announcement made by this governor, a great governor of the state of Florida.
Ron DeSantis.
Ronaldo Ronald.
He made the announcement for running for office on Twitter spaces.
Broke the internet.
700,000 people alive.
Elon had to switch from his to David Sachs.
And then the world had a chance to listen to DeSantis' announcement, how he went about doing it.
We got a bunch of different stories to go through, videos to look at.
Some things are funny.
You are going to crack up.
The reaction from the other side, the reaction from Biden's side, the reaction from Trump's side, which one of them was just absolutely epic.
And then a video Vinny did this week I want to show that was accidentally.
I've not been messaged this many times saying what the hell is going on with this clip.
Maybe we'll get into that clip as well in a minute.
But first thing I want to do is I want to talk about how the mainstream media sold it to their audience on how DeSantis did.
Let's first start off with New York Times.
So five takeaways from a rocky 2024 debut New York Times.
Number one, taking risks on Twitter backfired.
Okay, cool.
DeSantis campaign launch on Twitter was plagued by technical difficulty lasting over 25 minutes.
The glitches overshadowed his announcement and disappointed supporters.
Fine.
Two, DeSantis appeals to educated right-wingers.
DeSantis resonates more with college-educated Republicans than with those without college degrees.
His Twitter event delved into ideological and wonky topics, discussing issues like alternative accreditation, accreditation regimes, and debanking of politically incorrect business.
Okay, cool.
Number three, DeSantis indirectly targets Trump.
While DeSantis didn't mention Trump by name, he aimed to contrast himself from the former president.
He criticized Trump's failure to build a complete border wall and signaled his intention to focus on attacking Trump's personal appointments from his first term.
Okay.
Four, DeSantis positions himself as a China hawk.
DeSantis presented himself as tough on China, focused on countering its influence, territorial expansion and military ambitions.
Five, DeSantis plans broad use of executive power.
Okay, so these are, he highlighted his ability to effectively wield power and in that conservative policies as governor of Florida.
Boom.
Cook.
So this is New York Times.
Now let's go to WAPO.
Again, neither one of these papers are going to be for DeSantis.
WAPO, four takeaways from DeSantis launch.
Number one, core argument.
He aimed to lead a movement and the Republican Party distinguishing himself from Trump.
Okay.
Two, focus on the cultural war.
DeSantis aligns with the anti-woke on the lips ethos of the GOP.
Three, inauspicious launch.
DeSantis campaign launch on Twitter.
Spaces face technical difficulties.
Chances and opportunities.
DeSantis timing may not be ideal as Trump has regained his frontrunner status.
Maybe they're right with that one.
Here's another one coming from The Hill.
Five takeaways.
Number one, Twitter's tech misfire undermines DeSantis Central case.
Same we heard it before.
Twitter and Trump and Biden united and gloating.
We'll talk about that here in a minute.
A great night for the other not Trump candidates.
Republican contenders positioning themselves against Trump capitalize on DeSantis' messy launch, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, Asa Hutchinson, and even Glenn Yunkin gained opportunities to differentiate themselves from DeSantis.
Four, DeSantis tries to repair the damage on Fox News.
And five, DeSantis stumble comes at the start of a marathon.
So this is all the criticism.
And then the last one I'll read in and Tom, I'm going to come to you right after this.
WAPO talks about 10 things to know about DeSantis on what he's running on.
Now, having said that, Tom, Vinnie, Adam, you guys listen to the Twitter spaces.
What was your biggest takeaway?
Was it good?
Was it bad?
Was it indifferent?
Well, they can talk about their takeaway from actual DeSantis.
What I'll talk about is my takeaway from the media coverage.
The media is focusing on what happened.
They should be terrified that it happened.
It happened on Twitter spaces.
You take a look at Elon Musk is not a loser.
He's a longtime winner.
This is first five moves for him of what's going on.
This is the legitimacy of Twitter as a major broadcast media player.
You remember you see a couple launches, rockets fall, things like that happen.
And all of a sudden, Starlink has got 4,100 satellites in orbit, and they actually helped Ukraine with internet service during a global war.
Bet against Elon Musk if you want.
But the rest of this shows that there's a triangle.
If you're a conservative candidate in America, you have to beat your liberal candidate and you have to beat the media.
And that is what is forming here.
You have to beat two things.
The media is not going to be this hard on Biden.
And so what I saw about the media was a bunch of obvious things.
Oh, he's going to use executive orders.
Well, you want to go look at Obama's record on executive orders?
It was his favorite tool.
You know, so how can you say, oh, DeSantis is going to use executive orders?
They all do it when they can't get it through Congress.
But I think that the media's coverage here was a bit whiny and a bit hopeful that they could throw some dents at it.
And don't bet against Elon Musk.
How do you think he did, though?
I think one sentence from me.
I thought it was a real quiet opening.
It was a very dour reading for those first minutes.
And finally, toward the end of it, as he and David Sachs got into a bit of a rhythm on Q ⁇ A, he seemed to humanize.
And there was really some things there that I thought were good.
But the opening, I thought, was dry.
I don't think it was inspiring.
Yeah, first of all, because of the glitch, I think it gave people something to talk about.
Oh, my God, everybody here was all tripping out.
But I said, if it was a SpaceX launch that moment, that thing would have crashed.
Right when it went up two seconds, that thing would have fell down.
But in regards to the speech, I think the first couple of minutes, it did sound like he was just reading and reading and reading.
But then once the paper was down, he's saying, Pat, basically everything that Trump basically has said in the past, correct?
Everything with the anti-woke, anti-COVID lockdowns, everything like that.
China.
It's the same thing as Trump.
So one has to ask themselves, is he going to get the same treatment as the deep state comes after him, just like they did with Trump?
You know what I mean?
Like, they're going to have to obviously go after him, Pat.
But then what pissed me off about the media, the left, this is how you know you're doing something right for the people and for the country.
The racism, they have to come at you with racism.
Uh, in regard to the Twitter space event, that landing basically said anybody listening was a Nazi.
If you were listening, that you were a Nazi.
Vanity Fair said Ron DeSantis will formally announce.
Can you show the Vanity Fair warning?
Yeah, they go, Ron DeSantis will formally announce his 2024 bid with Elon Musk because apparently David Duke wasn't available.
That's basically saying Elon's a racist, which I think is BS.
And if you think about it, the NAACP, the chairman, they announced a travel warning like it was like terrorism.
They're like, Florida is actively hostile to minorities, and people should stay away from Florida.
But you know, the funniest thing is, Pat, the chairman of the NAACP, Leon Russell, guess where he lives?
Tampa, Florida.
What kind of hypocrite, scumbag are you to be sitting in Florida and say, hey, don't come here.
They're crazy, but you live here.
So it's hypocritical.
Maybe he doesn't want the crazies to come here.
Maybe he's kind of like, don't come here.
Let's just get the strategic.
Yeah.
Adam.
All right.
Well, I broke down this into five different sections and I gave each one a grade just to kind of make this very simple.
So Elon Musk, Twitter, everything that happened there, I give them a C minus.
Clearly, it was not their best day.
Clearly, it was not a good look.
But welcome to the tech world, ladies and gentlemen.
This is how kind of things work sometimes.
But the reason they didn't get an F for it's not some disaster, it's like the writing's on the wall.
What's the next thing that he tweeted out when he said all presidential candidates are welcome here on Twitter?
How many do you think are going to take him up on that offer?
My guess is a bunch, probably not Biden.
Definitely not.
Okay.
I could see people on the left.
I could see RFK doing it.
I could see Merriam Williams doing it, doing it.
Gavin Newsom will jump in and do it.
I don't know about Gavin Newsome, but I certainly think people on the right, I think at some point, Trump's going to succumb to this.
At the end of the day, all presidential candidates are most welcome on the platform.
Thank you, Elon.
As far as DeSantis goes, I think this is actually a good thing for him.
Because if there's one thing that DeSantis is, is a policy wonk and he knows his stuff.
He's very technical and he knows all his stuff.
When we met with him, it was very robotic and sort of systematic.
And politicians.
That's who he is.
Politician.
You know, you talked about which I think is such a good point.
I actually don't think it's a politician.
No.
I don't think he's a politician.
No.
And I'll come back to that.
Okay.
You'll see why.
But I love what you, if we can give the essence of, I think, your message to DeSantis is that the gladiator metaphor is that when the people win your freedom.
And I don't think he's there yet.
I think he's going to win over smart, college-educated rhino, MAGA, even those types of guys.
He's not, he hasn't won over MAGA or the people yet.
So he gets a B. Trump.
Trump, he gets an A.
He gave a response that was hilarious.
People say all the time, Trump is so funny.
Trump is so funny.
No, I think he's entertaining.
I think it's like watching a car wreck sometimes.
I'm never laughing out loud.
This was legitimately funny.
And I got to give him credit where credit's due.
His marketing team puts us together this whole thing, which I'm sure we'll play hilarious.
A for that.
We'll play that.
Biden, A minus.
Simple.
He put a message out.
He said basically, hey, click this link.
It actually works.
Donate.
He raised millions of dollars.
Boom.
That's that was it.
And then last but not least, my fifth one is the mainstream media.
They got a B minus.
Why?
Because they look good on paper.
You know, it's kind of like the Lakers in 05.
They look good on paper when they played the Pistons, but then they got their ass whooped.
And I think that's exactly what's going to happen here: is that more and more people, more and more candidates are going to come to Twitter and not go to mainstream media.
So those are my grades for the five major players in this matter.
Pat, has you a question though?
Like they call the deep states a deep state because they run deep.
Like you don't think they're going to figure out a way.
They have to stop.
They're probably going crazy because this was such a successful thing once it came on after the glitch.
Because once, you know, in the future, these glitches aren't going to happen.
What do you think is like, Pat, they're going to have to kind of try to stop this because you get to hear this raw.
Nobody's.
Editing.
Nobody's.
It's not.
Because journalism is dead, if you ask me.
It's up to you to find the truth.
This is just the truth.
You're just hearing the person raw.
Do you know what I mean?
You mean they're going to have to stop it because what?
They're worried about it.
The truth.
We're getting real-time information that's not censored.
It's not biased.
It's not Fox.
It's not CNN.
It's just you're listening to the person.
You're getting it raw.
They're just giving them the platform.
Well, and Elon mentioned that during the Twitter spaces, that this is the future.
Instead of doing town squares where a few people in your town can go and sit down and talk to the candidate, now anybody on the globe can speak.
This is the global town situation.
It's a digital town square.
So I'm thinking like Pat.
They have to be going crazy right now because they're like, oh, God, we're getting, you know what I mean?
Legacy media, all these people.
Now this is like raw, right in your face.
Nobody's biased.
It's just talking to the person directly.
Yeah, you know, right after the thing was over with, I posted the following.
Okay, my biggest takeaway from the whole thing.
I was listening to it on the plane when we landed.
We're in New York.
We're at the tarmac.
I'm about to go to the Yankees game and I'm listening to this whole thing.
And I was able to catch the whole thing simply thanks to them, the technology having some problems.
If it was on time, I wouldn't have missed the first 20 minutes.
And here's what I got.
Number one, Twitter needs to move out of headquarters in California, ASAP.
ASAP.
There is no need for a company to be in a city or a state that doesn't like you or support what you stand for.
And you're an enemy and you're down the street from all your direct competitors that want to see more problems for you.
So I don't know if that issue that took place was anything that was from the inside, that was tech, that was enemies, that was competitors.
I don't know.
All I know is Twitter needs to move to Florida or Twitter needs to move to Austin, Texas.
I mean, Austin, Texas.
One of those two.
Obviously, Austin makes more sense because he lives there.
But imagine if he actually says, I believe so much in the governor being a president.
Imagine Elon Musk making this announcement.
I believe so much in the governor being the president of the United States that we are making an announcement that we're moving the headquarters of Twitter to Miami, Florida.
Imagine that announcement to show the kind of support for the governor.
Something like that.
By the way, if I was DeSantis, I would have negotiated that.
100%.
Mayor of my Mayor Suarez would say, how can I help?
Exactly.
Shout out to Fred.
Number two.
Credit to Biden and Camelo's marketing campaign.
Immediately they responded and they posted a link.
I don't know if you have that that said, this link wars.
Hurry up and go donate.
So smart.
Guess what?
Great job to their marketing team.
Exactly.
To their marketing team.
Not to Biden, not to Kamala, to their marketing team.
This is exactly what you're supposed to do.
Let's see how many likes it got.
It had to have a lot of likes.
121,000 likes.
Okay.
That's great.
So people go.
15.8 million.
I love it.
This is the right move as an enemy, as a competitor.
Capitalize off the mistakes of the opposition.
Three, whether this becomes successful launch or not for Ron DeSantis, this is the future.
So by the way, for me, a part of the call I listened to when they were making an announcement, all I thought about to myself was, in many cases, Rob, if you can go back to the other tweet, in many cases, it was almost as if Musk and Sachs were selling Twitter just as much as they were selling DeSantis.
And if I was even to put a ratio of what that was really all about, I put 60% DeSantis.
I put 40% Twitter.
The selling of it was this is the direction.
I didn't see it as a form of an endorsement.
I saw it as a form of a, we are here, we're the future.
That's kind of how it was sold.
So kudos to those guys for what they did.
By the way, I don't know who came up with the idea and who sold it to the other person, but whoever that did sell it to the other person, respect you.
Brilliant move.
And Pat, you wouldn't say though at that point, because of that move and that first time and that they wouldn't be like voting for DeSantis, Elon and they've made it clear.
They've spoken, if you speak sign language, they've given plenty of signs that they don't want to vote for Trump.
At least Musk has.
We don't want a president above 70 years old.
He's made it very clear.
You're going to say that.
Trump has called out DeSantis.
I'm sorry.
He's called out Elon Musk before.
Yeah, okay.
You want Elon on your side?
By the way, David Sachs, what's his role exactly at Twitter?
David Sachs is probably Musk's most trusted advisor and friend.
Right-hand man.
One of the most.
So David Sachs, I was very impressed.
One of the things I like about this guy, and I think he needs to get more involved.
He is pretty active, but I think he needs to get even more active.
He's calm.
He's poised.
He's a great host on a call like this.
I was just very impressed by him on the way he handled.
Listen, in a situation like that, when shit's hitting the fan, people don't know how to handle themselves.
You got millions of people that are watching you dying to criticize your platform.
And he's just cool, calm, and collected.
Very impressive.
Five, mainstream media will have the initial laugh.
Long term, they're not going to have the laugh.
They may as well go by a plot.
Their cemetery is coming soon.
Rob, if you can pull that up here for people to see.
Amen to that.
DeSantis was reading a script.
I kind of think that's boring.
Agree.
Sell me the dream.
Tell me a story.
Tell me why America is the greatest country in the world.
Sell me the dream and the nightmare.
The only thing I heard was the nightmare.
You're not going to win just selling the nightmare.
Sell me the dream as well.
There's an element of selling the nightmare.
Yes, this is a great season to sell the nightmare.
But tell me what's going to happen if you're in there.
Let me tell you, our dreams are going to become a reality.
We're going to talk about the dream language.
Zero dream language on the call at all.
Seven, Trump needs to schedule his next Twitter live as soon as possible.
I think it'll be the biggest one in the history of Twitter.
I think it'll be five times bigger than this one.
I think before they do Trump's, they best do it outside of the state of California.
They better do it in a place where the servers and the state is backing them up.
A place to do it out of would be Texas because Florida is obviously going to favor DeSantis.
Texas is going to be a little bit more moderate between DeSantis and Trump.
Eight, Musk was just as big as a star as DeSantis was.
I made that point already.
Nine, he told one joke about the congressman's license plate from Kentucky.
And it was actually a decent joke.
The reason why I like that is because this shows you can tell jokes.
You can be witty.
Do more of it.
You only did it one time in an hour and 15 minutes.
If you can tell, maybe increase it.
If I'm talking to the guy, I'm going to say one joke every 10 minutes.
Okay.
Try to break the ice or make people laugh or be witty once every 10 minutes and once every 10 minutes, maybe once every 15 minutes, self-deprecate yourself a little bit.
Once every 15 minutes.
That's a basic rule.
One joke every 10, 15 minutes, one self-deprecation thing every 10, 15 minutes.
You sound too perfect.
10.
Vinny, by the way, you open to being his comic coach?
100%.
For DeSantis, you need some help.
I will do it in a heartbeat.
There's a difference with the audio-only format versions.
This kind of a, it's easier to lose the audience when you're doing something where I can't see your face.
You got to tell stories.
Storytelling matters.
Tell a couple of stories.
Don't just kind of go, here's what we're going to do.
Here's what we're going to do.
No, I would take 20 of all the policies that he has, okay?
20 policies, and I would have my team around, and I would have five to 10 stories under each one of these policies to say, let me tell you about Marianne Jones.
She lives in Tallahassee, Florida.
When I was meeting Tim, you know, she was 32 years old, single mother with two kids, and here's what took place.
Tell me stories for me to go there.
11.
Rob, go up.
At the end, he showed his edge, which I freaking loved.
The fight came out a little bit.
It was good.
He was competitive.
Americans love a competitor.
And then super slow start, but a great strong finish.
And last but not least, man, I applaud these guys for doing this.
This was a big risk.
To be the first to do this, it's a very, very, very risky.
Elon won last night, two nights ago.
We would have done it last night.
I was out of town.
Elon won, DeSantis won.
Twitter won.
Digital media won.
Mainstream media got destroyed.
You know what they look like and sound like?
Here's what you'll look and sound like.
Just so you know, I know you don't know this.
It's like that group of arrogant elite kids in school that went to the parties from the rich families and they would laugh in the way, you sound like a moron, qualified moron, insecure, shitless.
Because if, God forbid, mainstream media gets destroyed and you don't have a teleprompter, what the hell are you going to do without a teleprompter?
What the hell are you going to do without those writers?
In this space, there is no teleprompter.
You have to be able to collect and talk, give your thoughts, opinions, host, banter, be wrong, risk screwing it up.
And none of those things do you guys like.
Most of you, there's a few of you guys that do a great job.
I like Tapper.
I like a few of the guys out there that are doing what they're doing.
I agree.
But for the most part, mainstream media, you got maybe three, five years.
If you're lucky, 10 years.
Numbers came back the other day how, you know, it went from 2016 with 70% of people watching cable to now it's 40%.
10%.
It dropped that massive in seven years.
What do you think the drop's going to be in the next three to five years?
Because here's how drop goes.
Drop goes like this.
You're here right now.
You haven't yet, you know how you go up the Viper or whatever these rides are at Magic Mountain.
You're barely coming down.
And then everybody, and then boom, it goes.
So they're here right now.
It's about to go and everybody screams.
Everybody screams.
Except these guys are going to be crying because they're not as tough as they act like they are.
Yeah, what's this here?
Oh, shoot.
I got to do my sponsor read.
By the way, what a great sponsor read to do because we got a lot of people on.
Let's go.
And these guys got a good one here.
So, Dimitri, I met this guy.
He invited me to go to his event.
Went to his event.
He runs a YouTube channel for, what do you call it?
For the business they're in.
Man, I was about to joke about it.
Talk about plumbing because I did the joke on plumbing.
It's not plumbing.
Listen, Pat, every 10 minutes, self-deprecation.
Tell a story, Pat.
I got to coach you up.
I was just saying.
Let me tell you.
It was just a technical dropout.
So Mario said, Tater joke before I give you the sponsorship.
Mario sends me a text message saying, Pat, we need this video made for an ad for this guy and all this other stuff.
And Mario's about to get on a flight and I send the video to Mario.
I wish I could even show you guys what the video was.
If you see this video, I think I was looking at this.
We almost need to show this video.
So you know what?
I'm going to do this to get these guys because I like what this guy stands for.
We're going to do this a little longer than usual.
Mario, if you can send this video I sent you where you lost your mind on the flight calling Sam and Karina, everybody saying, why did you get the ad wrong?
Yeah, you told me that.
What is this all about?
I told you guys.
I give you specific direction, man.
I wish I had.
I was with you.
If Mario's listening to it, he has to tell.
Oh, there it is.
Okay.
This is the one.
Is this the one?
Yeah, so this is a roofing conference.
Rob, you have to play this.
It's a roofing conference.
It's a roofing conference.
This guy, Dimitri, is a study in that space.
He's crushing it.
He's got a, imagine having a roofing YouTube channel.
You got almost 100,000 subs.
It's a niche roofing.
100,000 subs.
So, Mari asked me for this if you can play this.
Are they Florida-based, Pat?
He's working with their business models all across the country.
So, this is why I kept thinking plumbing at first because I was Rob, do you have it or no?
Yes, give me one minute.
It just went to my computer, not my phone.
Okay, I can send it to your phone as well if you want me to, man.
This is a little too funny here.
And so, how did this meet happen, Pat?
So, this guy, Dimitri was telling me.
I have to do this.
I have to show this first before I do the sponsorship.
I got to get it.
Rob, if you got it.
He's getting antsy.
I want to see my roof.
Mario's on a flight.
He has to get the sponsorship over to Dimitri's camp, and he is taking off to go see Barbie in Arizona.
And I'm sending him the wrong video.
Oh, my God.
And he's saying the guy's name is Dimitri.
It is a roofing conference.
2,000 people are going to be there.
Yeah.
Okay.
And talk about the economy, the challenges, all this stuff that's taking place in the marketplace.
Okay.
And give a message about how we're going to help address some of these issues.
Rob, is it coming through or no?
It's just taking a second because it's a large file.
I'll be 20 seconds.
I love having a video.
Rob over here.
Through the computer server.
What's the video about to go through the roof?
But at least Dimitri's company can fix it.
You know what I'm saying?
See how that worked?
Rob, how much longer?
So if you're doing that, I'm just going to go sponsor because this is taking a little too long.
Yeah, if you want to read the sponsor, I'll try to translate it.
Anyways, listen, when we first moved to Texas to Dallas, within, okay, you have it right there.
Go for it.
If you want to make it bigger, watch this here.
Watch this.
So imagine, don't play it.
So the guy's name is Dimitri.
Okay.
It's roofing.
Okay.
Okay.
And it's in, I think it's in Orlando.
Okay.
And he gives some dates.
The dates he gives me specifically are February 26th or whatever.
Listen to the dates.
Go ahead and play this.
Hey.
Hey, Patrick Bay David here.
Cannot wait to see all of you guys on February 30th at Joseph DeSana's Underground Plumbing Conference.
I know a lot of you guys maybe had a rough year.
Some of you guys are trying to raise money.
Some of you guys cannot make it through the pipes.
Whoever you are, I look forward to seeing you at Orlando February 30th with Joseph Dasana.
If you're not yet registered, you still have time.
I'll see you guys there.
Oh, my God.
And Mario's in the middle of the day.
And Mario is calling everybody.
He's pleased taking off.
I'm trying to get this video.
The guy's who's Joseph DeSana.
It's not on February 30th.
What is this underground plumbing conference?
Anyway, so that's why I thought about plumbing.
Let me go back to the sponsorship.
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We have no clue what happens in Dallas.
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Since a regular day, next thing, you know, warning, hail.
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It's going to be hail.
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The 750 BMW looks like somebody did a drive-by with like 50 Uzis.
Is this crazy?
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What do I need your help with?
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Thank God we had insurance, but we still have to cough up $40,000.
We have to spend money fixing the car, which was a mess.
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So it's not just roofing.
It's definitely not plumbing.
It's all contractors.
And they do all the work for you, Pat, so you don't have to search God.
And this guy's a stud.
He's actually a stud on what he does.
So, okay, there you go.
Let's go back into the story with Musk and DeSantis.
Hey, Rob, do me a favor.
Do a poll on the podcast and ask the following question.
Do people prefer underground plumbing?
No, I'm just joking.
Do a poll and ask who they believed won on Twitter spaces.
Okay.
Was it Musk?
Was it Twitter?
Was it DeSantis?
Or was it Opposition?
Just put that and people, folks, vote.
I'm curious to know what you think about what happened.
You're now, Tom, here's a question for you.
Some of the people on the other side are talking about the mistakes DeSantis made with Disney.
There's data where we can look at to see if it's favoring him or if it's hurting Disney.
Was this a good thing for DeSantis to go after Disney at a time like this?
Or is this something that Bob Iger is doing because he needs it, like you were talking about off podcast?
There's a little bit of everything going on there.
So if people were listening to this, just listen objectively to when DeSantis on Twitter Spaces said, it's not fair that Disney has their own way and doesn't pay taxes while SeaWorld, Universal, and the others are paying taxes as all the wonderful tourists come to Florida to enjoy themselves and go to these theme parks.
He made that point.
And remember, you know, Universal, that's owned by another media giant.
So the other media giant's saying, damn straight, I'm paying my taxes.
ABC, you know, and Disney are not.
And so there is an angle there that was very truthful that said, hey, I'm trying to even the playing field up.
And they're trying to make it sound like, oh, it was because it woke things.
However, Rob, if you can go find a Disney stock chart and just go back six months, just click on Disney Stock Chart six months.
Bob Iger rolled into town right after Thanksgiving.
Remember that it was right after Thanksgiving.
Our hero is back.
It's like a Disney movie.
You know, here he is.
And he immediately started laying off people.
He announced that they were changing some things that were going on.
Remember, they raised parking rates and stuff, and he was trying to change some of the pricing at the theme parks.
But Bob Iger has his hands full.
And I believe this controversy is helping Bob Iger move the dialogue that's on his desk, which is Fix Disney.
So take a look here.
Go back six months.
Right there, you had a little pop-up where you had this ramp that ran up to February.
That's called the, we're glad our hero is back and the Disney goes from 85 to 110.
But now look since that point on February 2nd, Pat, look at that.
It's a trend line down.
It's gone up, down, up, down, but it's heading down.
It's because Bob Iger has not been able to write away from 110 to 85.
That's not good.
You know, 110 to 88.
If we can, I don't want to cut you off.
If you go to Max, what I want to put, Disney's the first stock I have ever owned in my life.
My grandmother bought me stock when I was a kid and I've had it forever.
If you go back to, I think this is pre-COVID, I want to say, go back to the high point.
I think it hit 180 at one point.
October of 2020.
So even during COVID, it was at 181.
Right.
Maybe you could tell the full breadth of the story of what actually happened since COVID.
Because his woke agenda with Bob Iger and everything that's happening with DeSantis is a six-month story-year story.
But it's really a two, three-year story of what's happening with Disney.
Correct.
But it's our hero coming back.
Remember, Chapec was trying to stand behind the scenes.
The former CEO.
CEO.
He was behind the scenes.
He was supporting a woke agenda, but he was not at war with DeSantis.
There had been some words like, hey, buddy, you know, we may need to talk about your tax thing.
The war really started between Iger and DeSantis.
And DeSantis is just saying, hey, Disney, you need to be just like Universal, just like SeaWorld, just like Animal Kingdom, all this stuff.
You need to pay your taxes.
And you had a benefit, an economic benefit called economic development that all cities do to attract business.
And DeSantis is like, I think 50 years of economic development benefits is enough.
And I'm going to take it back.
And Iger is out there trying to address profitability.
But now he's talking about this because he's got something to blame.
He's got something to blame.
It's not my fault.
He did it.
It's Ron.
Ron did it.
They did it.
If it wasn't for Ron, this would have never happened to us.
That's what Iger's saying?
That's kind of what Tom is saying.
I think he made a great, great point.
Which Disneyland was closed and which was open, making Disney money during COVID.
Florida was open.
So Chapel and Iger and the Disney shareholders owe a little bit of a thank you because there was millions of dollars of EBITDA that was created because Disney was open.
And California was closed.
We all know Iger is brilliant.
We all know Iger is a genius.
We all know Iger is on the list of top 10, top five executives.
I'd say top 10 executives in the last, no, he's probably top five, top five executives in the last 40 years.
Who do you put ahead of him?
I only think about a couple names.
And I'm not talking founders because he's not a founder.
I'm talking executives.
So you can't put a Jobs or, you know, some of these guys.
Tim Cook.
You got to put Welch as a 40.
You got a few names, but I don't even know if I put Welch ahead of him.
I think Welch was for this guy to buy and negotiate all the deals and get guys like Jobs to agree to sell to what, like, no, that's not normal to do that.
I think Bob Iger has to have a meeting with his wife, with his family, with his kids, with his close friends, with the people he respects the most who will give him sincere feedback if he hasn't already had this meeting.
And guess what, Bob?
Get in the ring.
Make a decision to get in the ring.
To Rocket?
Yes.
Get in the ring.
Oh, it's too late for me.
No, it's not about this one here and the next one here, but start planning you going into the ring.
You know, it sounds like a guy that's itching to fight these heavyweights, but he's doing it from the outside.
And a little scared.
If you've read his book, The Ride of a Life, he talks about it, that he was sitting with Murdoch, I believe.
Who was he sitting with?
Murdoch or one of those guys, Roger Ailes.
And he was talking about the fact that he has asked, well, are you going to run for president?
He's like, I told him no, but I was thinking about running for president.
Why don't you just make a decision and run and tell the world about it?
Look, by the way, he wrote a book.
Look how many views it's got.
Look how many reasons it's got.
Wow, 21, 22,000 reviews right there.
That's a three-year-old book, four-year-old book that's doing that well.
So it's going to be interesting to see what happens because DeSantis now has clearly, intentionally picked his enemies, and Disney is one of them.
He's making it very clear.
One of my enemies is Disney, woke.
He's made it clear.
Planned Parenthood, abortion, that camp is one of his enemies.
Six weeks, what he did.
You know, he's going after the education folks as also part of the woke.
And indirectly, you know, he says, he said something on the live with Twitter.
He says, he says, let me tell you what I'm going to do before I finish up with Florida.
I'm going to get everything done to the last day I'm there.
So, whatever SOB comes after me has nothing to do because everything's already been done.
Something like that.
I think he said SOB or he said something, a word like that.
Whoever comes after me doesn't have anything to do.
Okay.
They talked to him about the border.
By the way, did you watch him yesterday on Fox News with Trey Gowdy?
Trey Gowdy, yeah.
Did you watch him last night with Trey Gowdy?
Let's see how it did.
Go to Fox News.
Let's see how it did to see how people are reacting to just go to YouTube.
Yeah, go to YouTube and then go to Trey Gowdy.
Go to Fox News.
Look how sexy we look right there.
Well, you make you like everybody.
Go to videos.
Trey videos there.
Trey was leaning back a little chill.
I thought he could have been.
No, it was two parts.
Keep going down, keep going down, keep going.
Trey's on the top right right here.
Is that one?
No.
No, that's not the one.
Keep going down.
It was a part one and a part two with Gowdy.
Oh, you're already at one day.
Okay, there it is.
Let's see what it did.
Right there.
One day ago.
Look how many views.
181,000.
That's not interested.
That's not good.
That's not good.
You know why?
And look at Gutfeld.
331 views the same day.
331,000 views on the same day.
And by the way, even my Matt had 612,000.
And even Matt Taibbi got 256.
I mean.
He's got a marketing problem.
Yeah.
So if you're on this, dude, sell the dream.
Tell a story.
You're only selling the nightmare.
It's only what we're going to do.
Here's what's going on.
Here's what they're doing.
Here's what the funerals are.
I got that.
But tell me how great America is.
Tell me why this is the greatest country in the world.
Tell me why my dream's going to become a reality.
Tell me what it's going to be like when you're president.
If I'm going to walk down the aisle with my daughter because she's going to marry somebody because I have the money to pay for it.
Tell me what it's going to feel like where I can go to my kids' college graduation knowing my kid is now being taught real history with what's going on with none of this woke stuff.
And you're going to be proud of the university your kids go to.
Sell me the nightmare, yes, but also sell me the dream.
You are not selling the dream.
You know what it's like?
It's like this is going to be a bad analogy, but I'll give you the analogy.
Imagine if it was only foreplay.
Eventually, I got a climax.
Oh, God, of course.
Sell me the dream of what's to come.
Yeah.
Let me tell you.
10 minutes.
You're going to be shivering.
You know, like you're going to be fired up.
Yeah, don't leave me with blue.
Sell me the dream.
Don't leave me with blue balls.
Sell me why this is the greatest country in the world.
I want you to talk dirty to me.
That's what I want.
Okay.
Because the guy you're going up against, he's talking dirty to your girl.
And you got to do that.
That's what he's doing.
You know who the girl is in this situation?
America.
America, the voters.
I'm a bang of man.
Yes, what the voter wants to be sold the dream.
And then you got to come through with it.
Good.
You sound like you got excited.
What do you got?
You sold me the dream, Pat.
I got to raise my flag right now in America, brother.
But here's the thing.
I don't think this is why he is going to take your advice.
Because if you just listen to the words that come out of his mouth, this is what he said in his Twitter spaces thing.
He said, governing is not entertainment.
He said, I'm not here to build a brand or to virtual signal.
Build a brand, Trump, Virtual Signal.
Biden.
All right.
He's like indirectly calling people.
He says, merit must trump identity politics.
He didn't say Trump's name, but he said it in a different context.
He said, we must look forward, not backward.
But basically, he's not here to be a marketer.
His whole thing is that he's all about competency over lunacy.
And whether that's a winning message or not remains to be seen.
I fully agree with you.
By the way, he needs to talk a little dirty.
You know who's like that?
You know which position in the White House works if you have a position, if you have a position like that?
Chief of staff.
Chief of staff.
Exactly.
That's it.
A chief of staff.
You would be an incredible chief of staff or a VP.
But the first thing, you know, the first thing I thought about?
Here's what the first thing I thought about.
I thought about, I always forget this guy's name.
The chief of staff that was there for freaking God knows how many years, Reagan, Bush, everybody, one of the most powerful men, the book Kai and I read together.
James Baker.
James Baker.
Think about Jim Baker.
This guy reminds me of a Jim Baker because he's such a badass.
DeSantis is a flipping badass.
Do not get it twisted.
The guy is a BMF.
He is so serious about the mission.
So serious that it's like always boom.
Right?
That's the mindset of a chief of staff.
That's a mindset of a general.
That's the mindset of a governor.
He's governing.
But when you want to go become a president to win 50 states, you kind of have to, you don't have to win 50 states, but you understand what I'm saying.
You have to kind of market and tell the story and talk dirty to the voter, dog.
You got to let go.
You know what I'm saying?
What I'm saying is he would have been a great candidate, great president pre-social media.
We all know that it's all about eyeballs.
I don't think it even predates that, actually.
I'm going to contradict myself and then I'm going to go straight to Tom.
Let me contradict myself and go to Tom.
What I'm saying to you right now only matters in this election.
It may not matter in 2028, but it matters when they elect Trump.
Because he's going against Trump.
You're right.
Listen, when you're playing, like, for example, like, what do coaches do before you're going up against an enemy?
What do you do?
You sit there and you call plays on how to play defense on Michael or how to play defense on Kobe or how to play defense on LeBron.
You double team him.
You go over here.
You go, you got to make sure the three-pointers.
We got to get him here.
Defense, we're going to play this and step up.
Don't give him space.
That guy, just so you know, whenever he wants to shoot a three, let him.
He's a 29%er.
That guy's a 41%.
You got to step up close to him.
Don't give him space.
He's always moving.
So we got, like, you got to have the strategy based on your opponent.
Your opponent is a run-and-shoot offense.
Your opponent is Hollywood.
Your opponent is a marketer.
You got to sell the dream.
Now, what I just said to you, he goes against Biden.
That's irrelevant.
It's irrelevant against Biden.
Nobody cares.
Like, the strategy changes immediately once he goes against Biden.
Fully agree.
Yeah.
So the only time it matters is your opponent today.
That's what I'm saying.
And Pat, but you were just really quick.
I know you want to go to Tom, but you were talking about his stories, and he's a veteran.
We're veterans.
How many stories do you have in the military?
Be honest.
Pat, from crazy to girl, to whatever.
He hasn't.
We're going to spend the rest of the podcast.
That's what I'm saying.
But Pat, look at his face.
I have it all.
Shout out to Felix.
Military.
Like, you got the story.
I know he's done some crazy stuff.
Make yourself like a- I can't sell some of the money.
No, no, I know.
But what I'm saying is that.
Let me tell you the story.
No, no, no.
Let's throw me under the street.
No, no, no, but Patrick, Patrick, what I'm saying.
Greatest pranks of all time.
Yeah, but Pat, you know what I'm saying?
I want to see the human side of this.
Let me tell you one quick story about my Lieutenant Colonel Peacocks.
All right.
My guy.
It's my number one guy.
So him and I, we used to go to this club every weekend in Tennessee.
He was actually a club.
Tom, fellas.
We're talking about, we're exactly right.
We're talking about practice.
Right.
We're talking about practice.
The way you said it, John.
What?
AI.
We're not talking about practice.
Not a practice.
Not a game.
Practice.
We're talking about practice.
Practice.
I would buy you a beer right now if you know what we're talking about.
We're talking about practice.
What coach was he talking about?
What coach?
What coach?
Give me the player.
He's got a thousand wins.
What coach?
Give me a team.
Give me a player.
Who am I talking about?
He said it 14 times.
Touch.
We're talking about practice.
Not a game.
Post-game interview.
Don't drop.
Are you talking about it?
Don't look.
Don't look that way.
Post-game interview.
Basketball player.
Put it away, guys.
Basketball.
Basketball.
No, no, no, no.
You won't get it?
Nope.
AI.
I'll give you initials.
AI.
Alan Iverson was talking about Larry Brown, but it's okay.
Go ahead, Tom.
We're talking about what you were talking about is.
We're talking about DeSantis?
Basically, what we're talking about is sales.
We're talking about sales.
You have to sell that dream to the people.
Ronald Reagan's sell point was: America is a shining city on a hill.
Obama's was about hope.
It's morning in America.
These were the themes that great presidential candidates were conveying so that the average American could grab hold of that and say, I see what you stand for.
And then when you're talking about your policies, that's the how.
But there's got to be a dream with it.
John F. Kennedy, the F stands for Fitzgerald.
His grandfather was John Fitzgerald, and they called him Honey Fitz.
And he was legend in Boston.
You know what he used to do, Pat?
He used to go pay a coal company to borrow a truck full of coal, and he would roll up his shirt sleeves with the suspenders, driving around Boston, waving to people.
And they would say, Honey Fitz, what are you doing with the coal truck?
He says, I'm personally taking coal to the poor because people were freezing.
And he drove it around all day.
Now, the punchline is the truck was returned full to the coal company at the end of the day, but he was driving around all day doing what?
Connecting.
Connecting.
And he was selling.
I'm taking coal to the poor.
And so that angle of politics, being able to sell and sell the dream, is as old as door-to-door campaigning from the days of Honey Fitz pre-television.
And so this is nothing new.
You have to deliver something.
I mean, when it absolutely positives to be there overnight, that's FedEx.
Great campaigns, great marketing.
This is where DeSantis has to go.
And showing yourself that, hey, you're the smartest guy in the room and you're the chief of staff is not the path to the heart of the American voter.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
I just feel like he's got to win the vote.
He's got to sell the dream.
He's got a woody audience.
He's got to get up there playing like Lenny Williams.
Like you were talking about Gladiator.
Girl, you know, I love you no matter what you do.
And it's just playing.
And he walks up.
Hope you understand me.
He's got to play some, Smoke.
He's got to play some Jodicy.
Phoenix.
You got to play Phoenix.
He's got to play, you know.
Let's get it on.
Yeah, he's got to play Let's Get It On.
He's got to sell the dream.
Sell the dream.
H Town, knocking the booth.
That would be that.
He would get the Houston vote.
Houston voted.
Houston voted.
He voted love and body rock and Ron DeSantis.
Oh, no.
Imagine if that happens.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
You said this.
You said this in a live event with Julie.
He said, and the mark, dude, I'm telling you right now, there's something lacking in the marketing team.
I'm telling you, bro.
Look how fast Biden and them were like, quick.
A team was like, yo, put the link.
This link works.
Boom, boom.
DeSantis, I don't think has that, bro.
You know what's the great quality of a great marketing person in situations like this?
Extremely sarcastic, funny, witty, quick.
Yeah, that's the key.
You can't, that skill set, those things right there.
Like, you got to put a job posting, looking for people who are witty, quick, funny, sarcastic.
What?
Yes.
Come on.
And then, quickly watching, he should say this.
He should say this.
Let's post this.
Tweet this.
Retweet this.
Make a video doing this.
Like, for example, look, show Trump's video, Ronald.
Show Trump's video.
So good.
I got to give credit where credit is.
Obviously, Trump didn't come up with this.
Somebody on the team did.
But again, kudos to the marketing.
He'll take credit.
I did it.
It was all made.
And then Pat.
He was editing all night, he was the one editing and covering.
He did all the voices.
And then, Pat, I sent him one too.
I don't know if you saw the one.
I think it's the rocket on Twitter.
Yeah.
No, it's what he's talking about.
Anyway, so this is what Trump's response to Ron DeSantis' Twitter space.
And it shows who's on there, Adam.
Can you see who's on there?
You got Elon Musk, you got Ron DeSantis, you got George Soros, you got a Klaus Schwab, you got Dick Cheney coughing the whole time, you got Adzoff Hierlau, you got the devil, and you got the FBI, the federal.
What did our buddy say?
Sebastian Gorka, the family, fascist bureau of intimidation.
Exactly.
Welcome to our Ron DeSantis Twitter space.
Hello?
Is my microphone working correctly?
George, can you just wait while we can you hear me?
We can all hear you, George.
Can you just hold on for a second?
I don't think they can hear me.
I can hear you fine, George.
Just speak to me.
I don't think George knows how to use Twitter.
Hello.
Can you hear me now?
Can I please make my big announcement now?
Everyone just.
Hello.
Just shut up, George.
Can somebody just mute, George?
Would you try not to?
Okay, so how are we going to take out Trump, you guys?
Guys from the FBI, this is not a private call.
This is a public Twitter space.
Everyone can listen in.
God damn it.
FBI believes the realized.
Anyway, guys, we invited everyone to this Twitter space so Governor Ron DeSantis could.
Everyone, just shut the hell up so I can make my announcement, okay?
You go, girl.
Wait, the devil?
It's gay?
So what?
Everyone in this call is gay.
Guys, can we please just calm down?
So anyway, guys, I just wanted to announce that I'm.
Okay.
I can hear the governor very vaguely.
Would you please shut up already?
I'm running for fucking president, okay?
Congratulations, governor.
Well, that concludes our Twitter space for today.
Thank you to all of our...
Hold your horses, Elon.
The real president is going to say a few words.
The devil, I'm going to kick your ass very soon.
Hitler, you're already dead.
Dick Cheney sounds like you'll be joining Hitler very soon.
Klaus Schwab and George Soros, I'm putting both your asses in jail.
And Ron DeSanctimonius can kiss my big, beautiful 2024 presidential ass.
Trump 2024, baby.
Let's go.
First of all, go through the likes.
Go to the likes.
Let's see how many views it got.
Just click on likes.
Click on it.
Yes.
Let's see how.
Oh, shit, it's not going to show it.
I'm curious about how many views this thing got.
I know.
Curiously.
By the way, 200.
That was hilarious.
Are you kidding me?
Nope.
Shout out to Trump's market.
Rob, what did I send you?
What was that video that I sent you that was Pat?
Did you see the one that Trump and I approved his message?
It got 7.2 million views.
By the way, the live, the Twitter spaces, got 5 million views.
The Twitter spaces.
This thing got 7.2 million views.
Sometimes less is more.
I'm just glad he left me out of it.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
See, that's the part, though.
Now, somebody may say, well, that's not, you know, is that kind of what we want?
That's not what we want in America.
It's not your choice.
That's your opponent.
You don't get to choose your opponent.
Your opponent is a guy named Donald J. Trump, who's a master troll or master market or master sarcasm, witty, quick, sharp, all of that.
That's your opponent.
You cannot complain about whether that's how it should be or that's presidential or not.
He happens to be a former president who believes can do it again.
And you got to get better strategies to go up against a guy like that.
Random question, Pat, because I know with Biden and Harris, they were on the debate stage and she called them a racist.
She was like, you're this, you're this, you're that.
If Twitter spaces got 9 million, I saw 5 million when Sak said it got 5 million views.
If it's at 9 million, now it's at 9 million.
I don't know the exact number, but a short clip like that got 7.5 million.
A short clip.
A short clip like that got 7.5 million.
Go ahead.
In regards to, so it's going to be obviously.
It's actually 3.8 million people tuned in.
So it's really 3.8 million.
I was actually a little higher.
Go ahead.
Not bad.
I'm going to interrupt you one more time.
No, Pat.
Listen to the third time.
I love you.
So, Pat, debate stage, Adam, it was everybody that was on the stage and he got down to Hillary.
Kamala.
This is Biden.
This is 2020.
2020.
Yeah.
And he was going after her.
She was going after him, calling him a racist and all that.
It's over.
Biden wins.
And what happens?
She's the VP.
Is there any chance?
No, I'm not even going to let you ask the question.
Let me ask the question.
DeSantis is not going to be Trump's VP.
Go ahead and ask the Prime Minister.
Let me ask you.
So if people are just jumping in, they go.
Go ahead.
Trump and DeSantis kind of go out of day.
They run DeSantis.
But hear me out, though.
For the party, does Trump tell the DeSantis, like, listen, it's over.
Mashay, I won.
But listen to me.
You stay with me for four years.
You're going to get the next eight.
That ship has sailed.
100%.
The ship has sailed.
It's gone.
What do you think after you go down to the bottom?
Is it zero chance?
Zero chance.
I don't think it's zero, but I think this is a lot different than a group of people that are going after each other on policy, maybe getting a little personal, and then they all gather together to sweep up the votes at the national convention.
That's the normal way it works, but I'm with Adam.
I think in this case, the ship is sailed.
Yeah, plus both of them are not favorable among women.
Women do not like Trump for the entire grabber by the adultery stuff.
I'm not going to say the yum yum.
And then Ron DeSantis with his abortion stand.
I think both of them need a female to be their vice president.
Great point.
If you had to pick a vice president for Trump or DeSantis, who cares who?
I think Trump goes Carrie Lake.
I think DeSantis goes Nikki Haley.
I agree 100%.
If they win.
Today.
Today, I agree with that.
You got to think about Tulsi, guys.
Touch it, Tom.
Go ahead.
I love Tulsi.
She was awesome.
I thought that was great.
By the way, on a serious note, PBD believes in analytics, believes in business analysts and this thing.
You've heard him talk about that.
We pulled real numbers.
This is not a joke.
Can we pop that up, Pat?
Absolutely, Tom.
This is great.
So we have the value tamement polling analytics, and you're going to see that because we're going to pull stuff together and try to make sense of it.
This is real data.
There's no jokes here.
So let's start with Iowa in the value tamement.
Too damn early poll.
We took a look at the last three reputable pollsters.
Now, they're not always right, but these are national pollsters.
Some lean left, some lead right, but they're real polling groups.
Signal did it at the beginning of April.
American Greatness, right at the second week of May.
And then right after the Trump Town Hall, a three-day poll was run by Emerson.
This is a very reputable group.
Again, they lean left, not always right, but they're reputable.
Take a look at this.
Trump went from plus seven on the signal poll to 18 the American Greatness poll to plus 42.
Look what happened there.
And look how Pence.
Tom, can you explain it for people to see it?
So if I'm looking at it, look at Emerson and go right across.
Look at the dates, right?
519 through 522 shows Trump 62, DeSantis 20, Pence 5, Haley 5, Ramswani 2, and it says Trump is now up 42.
So I'm going across while Tom is explaining this.
Go ahead, Tom.
Yep.
And then you go to American Greatness.
That poll was taken two weeks, about a week and a half prior, about a week and a half prior.
Trump was at 44, according to American Greatness.
DeSantis was 26.
And Pence was four, and Haley was six, Ramaswane.
So Trump was up 18 on second place DeSantis.
And then the signal poll that was at the beginning of April, remember, beginning of April, there's a lot of media running around, but neither Trump or DeSantis had done anything really huge.
And so Trump was plus seven.
So there was a big pop.
Now, that's Iowa, which is a blue state, and the red part of Iowa is very dedicated.
And remember, that's Trumpland.
That's Middle America.
Now let's scroll down and look at New Hampshire.
The too damn early poll.
The New Hampshire too damn early poll.
St. Anslim ran it right at the end of March.
Trump was 42.
DeSantis 29.
Trump was 13.
Then the University of New Hampshire, that's UNH, right in the middle of April, April 13th to 14th, they ran the poll.
Trump was 42.
DeSantis was 22, so Trump by 20.
And then American Greatness ran a poll right in the middle of May, but right after that.
To be clear, American Greatness has nothing to do with MAGA.
Make America Great.
It just happens to have the same word.
Correct.
These are just, thank you very much.
That's correct.
That's just the name of the polling group.
And Trump was 39, DeSantis 18.
Now, in New Hampshire, there's the son of the former governor, Chris Sununu, former governor and also prominent in the Bush White House, Bush Senior White House, John Sununu.
So Sununu has got home court advantage up there.
But look, Sununu in the recent poll was basically tied with DeSantis 17 to 18.
And Trump's 21 up on everybody.
And so it's a little bit early, but this is showing Trump got a real bump.
And then we pulled the...
By the way, if you go back up to that real quick, look at Ramazwani.
He doubled.
Look at his momentum.
You know, they shut him down on LinkedIn and then he came back up.
It's not all about what the LinkedIn city is.
He said something.
Oil or?
Yeah, he's coming.
He's coming.
He made a comment about fossil fuel and LinkedIn on the green side got all pissed off and shut him off.
Oh, God.
And let's look at just a real quick national look.
Now, remember, the primaries is what matters.
So the reason we're looking at states.
Tom, get up there and do your dance while you're in the middle.
Let's dance this time.
But Tom, you can see here, Trump is the purple line at the top, and the vertical line there is May 11th.
That is the CNN town hall.
Trump got a pop up after the CNN town hall.
See there to highest ever.
And then you see he drops down a bit.
That was seven days ago when DeSantis said, I'm officially running and I'm going to make my announcement.
And then DeSantis got a little bit of air in the room.
But look at everybody at the bottom, just kind of banging around at the bottom, Pence, Haley, and everybody.
This is a two-horse race.
But look at the trend line.
The trend line doesn't look good for DeSantis right now on a national basis.
Now, we've just...
He does have a bump back up, though, if you look at it.
Slight bump back up.
And what?
Trump's got a bump down since Twitter spaces, if you look at it.
Right.
And so we've got 60 days.
So ladies and gentlemen, value team at Polling Analytics.
We're going to be diving into this stuff.
And a little over 60 days from now, actually closer to 90, we're going to be in August in Milwaukee.
And then the Reagan Museum, they're within 10 days of each other.
In August, the Republican debates.
Let's see if everybody shows up because that's where we're going to see all these folks on stage going at it.
By the way, this is very, if you're watching this gang, if you like Tom doing a segment on this on the podcast, let us know if you'll like this segment or not for Tom to go through something to say.
This is very helpful for me to look at to see the polls.
Okay, so here's another thing that I kind of want to talk about that has nothing to do with the election, but it does.
Two things happened.
Okay.
One, Target's stock is down 12%.
They lost $9 billion in a week due to trying to pander to this ESG score, you know, LGBTQ.
They lost $9 billion in a week.
Anheuser-Busch Butt Light is down.
Bud Light is down 25% in sales if you look at their numbers.
And there's a couple things.
If you go to Twitter, I posted this yesterday and shared a clip of Larry Fink from BlackRock.
Because a lot of people, even yesterday when I was with Andrew Schultz on their podcast, Flagrant, shout out to those guys.
What a freaking great crew of people from the beginning to the end.
The music.
Great vibe.
No, not this one.
Go to the next one.
This is the one where he talks about.
No, stay on there.
Go back there, but just go to my account and go back to the tweet right before.
It's right there.
Yeah.
Click on that.
This is where he talks about force.
And zoom in a little bit.
Zoom in a little bit.
Yes.
Zoom in a little bit.
Okay.
Target loses $9 billion in a week after introducing LGBTQ friendly kids' clothing.
Stock is down 25%.
Bud Light down 25%.
Lessons from all Fortune 500.
Lessons to all Fortune 500 CEOs and CMOs.
Number one, screw your ESG score.
Instead, focus on keeping your best customers happy.
These guys don't realize who their best customers are.
Number two, you can't please both the ESG community and your best customers at the same time.
Attempting to do so will cost you both.
You saw what happened right now with ESG and CEI score coming back and saying we're disappointed in the way Anheuser-Busch handled themselves.
They went from having a perfect score of 100, boom, they no longer do.
Three, it's time for the board to fire the CEO and the entire marketing team.
Not doing so will continue this downfall.
Here's what the target CEO Brian Cornell said after the backlash.
Defending the LGBTQ friendly merchandise was the right thing for society.
Double dump.
Number four, bad ideas have consequences.
And number five, capitalism works.
Pandering doesn't.
Either go into politics and sell your woke policies to voters or be a true capitalist.
In capitalism, your best customers are your voters, not the 0.1% of voters who complain and scream the loudest.
So this goes to the next tweet with the video of Larry Fink from BlackRock.
Very casually, the way he says it, he just says it in such a way, it's as if it's like, yeah, it's not a big deal.
Zoom that out a little bit before you play the video on what I'm saying.
Force equals ESG equals BlackRock.
Can you zoom in the tweet?
Yeah, that right there.
Force equals ESG equals BlackRock.
Force is a bad strategy for those who prefer freedom.
Force works for the majority.
Give most execs some money, give them some recognition, it works.
But force doesn't work on independent thinkers and doers.
Listen to the word he uses here.
Go ahead.
Well, behaviors are going to have to change.
This is one thing we're asking companies.
You have to force behaviors.
And at BlackRock, we are forcing behaviors.
Well, behaviors are on.
And by the way, he's saying this.
You know how much assets they have under management as of December 31st of 2022?
$10 trillion.
$10 trillion.
BlackRock.
BlackRock.
$10.
He was a CEO.
$10 trillion.
70 offices in 30 countries and clients in 100 countries.
Some of these countries that don't like America, but these guys are more representing the globalist brand because they have such wide reach of what they can do.
And one of the ways they can make their clients happy is through ESG to control the behavior of what different companies do.
So force is the key word.
So guess what?
If I'm running a campaign, you know what I'd be selling?
Here's what I'd be selling if I'm dissenting.
He can give this message.
I would say, listen, in America, your vote is really two votes.
You're either part of the force community, you're part of the freedom community.
The force community is forcing you to do XYZ.
The freedom community is free.
The force community is doing this.
It's force versus freedom.
America wants to be free.
Don't force certain agenda to my kids in school where we don't want our kids to learn this stuff.
That is force.
We don't want you to do that.
Americans by choice, by DNA, are freedom fighters.
The establishment, their favorite word is force.
And very rarely do you hear them use it that publicly.
In this instance, he used it very comfortably.
And Pat, in regards, not to shit, but since we're on the Target situation, first of all, shout out to all the Americans that are going against all this shit, all this push.
Dude, think about it.
They lost over $9 billion in seven days of their company.
That's freaking amazing.
Shout out to all the Americans that are stepping up for that shit.
The Bud Watcher thing, I could care less.
North Faces did something with some outside drag queen.
They're getting backlash.
Pat, I just sent this clip to Rob on Instagram.
David Harris Jr. pointed it out on Instagram.
A guy's inside of Target, Pat, holding the, he's like, hey, to one of the employees.
He's like, hey, what's going on with demon stuff?
And you know what the employee says?
She's like, I don't believe in God.
I believe in Satan.
And I don't think it's.
Can you show that, Pat?
This is on this.
This is an actual Target employee.
These are people that work at Target.
Look at this.
I, yeah, both.
You support it?
Satan and pride.
You support Satan?
What's God going to think of that?
I don't believe in God.
Wow.
Did you need help with something?
You support the propaganda that's targeting the kids?
There's nothing targeting kids.
It's all over kids' TV shows.
It's all over.
They're targeting people.
Kids can choose to wear whatever they want.
Do you support the sexualization of kids through pride propaganda by corporate?
Is there something that we can help you with?
I'm just asking people questions.
What about you, sir?
Do you support this?
I'm not bringing any questions, but if you're here to cause any disturbance in this.
I'm just asking questions.
Do you work for Target?
Do you work for Target?
I do, actually.
Where's your name tag?
I am the undercover possible.
Not undercover anymore.
I'm just asking questions.
So do you support the satanic propaganda?
I'm not sure.
She's asking you questions.
What you need to do is you either need to leave the store, God will judge you guys.
Okay.
That's an undercover, the theft protection, prevention people that are just walking around.
Pat, besides the company, is this real or is this one?
No, that's 100%.
She works at Target.
This is not an act.
I'm trying to get a video to go viral and piss people off.
No, he's holding the camera together.
This is real.
It's real.
Pat, it's.
What's the problem?
No, no, but Adam, here's the thing.
Well, no, if it's real, it is a problem.
I'm saying, what do you think the problem is?
In general, just it's, and I've said this before, there is a blatant attack on the youth and the kids.
We care.
The American public, a majority of us do, but it's like, these people, like he said, are forcing this shit on us.
Kids, they have no chance.
Adam, from TikTok brainwashing them as children from in the schools to this woke gender chop-off.
It's okay.
Like, it's an attack.
And it's like, bro, I'm happy that we're standing up, but they're not even hiding, bro.
They're not even hiding anymore.
Evil is in plain sight.
And I mean, we have to like nip that shit in the bud right now, bro, because it's getting out of control, bro.
These people work.
They not only push it, they have employees that are like.
I hear you.
1,000% on a corporate level.
Yeah.
This lady's making $12 an hour.
I don't care what her ideology is.
She's lucky she has a job at this point.
You know, the guy coming in, he has a point.
I get it.
Yeah.
But the whole holier than thou, God will judge you.
It's like, dude, I'm working at fucking Target making $12 an hour.
I don't need to be on camera.
No, no.
Answering your questions.
No, my thing is.
I'm with you.
Mine is deeper.
Let's not make her the poster.
No, no, she's not the poster child.
What I'm saying, mine is going deeper.
It's like, bro, if the company itself, Target, and all these companies are going in a meeting, Pat, nothing gets posted on Value Tainment unless Mario, everybody goes, okay, we're good.
Post it.
For Target to say, okay, this designer, demon, warps, Satan loves pronouns, gay tucking underwear for children.
And then look, that's one thing.
That's what I'm saying.
Even if they're hiring people that are like that, come on, bro.
It's like, when is it going to stop?
You can't hire people based on ideology.
Well, dude, ideology aside, it's like, bro, we have to protect the kids and it's getting out of control.
And that's why people are losing almost $10 billion in seven days.
I agree.
So my point was, I'm just proud of that corporate kid.
Yeah, Americans are stepping up, and I hope I'm not, dude.
I was going to go to Target yesterday to go shopping.
I turned around.
I'm not going there.
I'm not going to get you.
We're going to go to Target to buy some Bud Light.
Where are you going to buy Target?
Walmart until they mess up.
Going to Walmart, buy some Coors Light.
Yeah.
But anyway, I didn't want to get off that, but it's like these people, when are they going to get it?
Bud Light, nobody learned their lesson.
Target, they're not learning their lesson.
Northface is doing it right now.
They're starting to lose money.
It's like, when are people going to wake up?
You know, guy, a girl yesterday responded back to the tweet I posted about ESG.
If you can go to it and let's see her name, if you can go, I'd like to give her credit.
If you can go back up to the tweet I had, Rob, not that one, the other one prior to that.
Yeah, if you can go there, please.
I want to say your name is Gina or G.
Okay, there it is.
Zoom in.
Yeah, she said they will all fall in line regardless of what the public wants, unfortunately.
It's the queering of corporate America.
Okay, so let's unpack that.
They will all fall in line regardless of what the public wants.
Unfortunately, it's the queering of the corporate America.
Great.
You know what that tells me?
That's a helpless, weak statement that we can't do anything about.
That's a statement that you don't believe in the power of we the people, and you don't believe strong men and women who are true believers exist.
Now, I don't know who she is.
I'm sure she's got good intentions.
But if you see the response below, here's the part: this isn't anything new.
Weak men have existed since day one.
They've ruined many empires.
However, they've also woken up true believers with backbones who won't cave.
True believers are waking up.
They're bringing hope.
True believers, can you click on show more, Rob, please?
True believers with strong values and convictions scare the crap out of the establishment.
Future looks bright.
I have a feeling, you know, this is going to be an awakening of one of my favorite quotes of all time is: Sometimes God puts a Goliath in your life to bring out the David in you.
I think it's going to be a lot of Davids waking up right now at a time like this.
It's so interesting when all of a sudden you had no desire to get in a fight, has nothing to do with you.
And then they cross the line with kids.
And all of a sudden, you're like, I'm sorry, man.
My blood is boiling right now.
I'm not happy about what you're doing with kids.
You're not going to do that to my kids, to my nephew, to my niece, to this, to that.
I'm stepping up and I'm going to do something about it.
I think that's kind of what's going on right now.
And by the way, this whole concept with this ESG argument, it's great that the people are reacting the way they are to Target and to Bud Light.
There's a difference between canceling and moving your vote.
Historically, we changed presidents.
We go left, we go right.
You go Reagan, Bush, Clinton.
Bush, Obama.
Trump, Biden.
We just do this because we're like, I need a better option.
I think they can do it better.
You know what?
You know what?
I miss that guy.
You know what?
I miss Trump.
You know what?
I miss Obama.
You know what?
I miss Bush.
You know what?
They just kind of go back and forth is what they do.
Okay.
So same thing goes with what do you call it?
Buying a drink.
You go to a restaurant, they don't handle it, they don't take care of you.
You leave.
You go to a different place, right?
That's a great thing about capitalism, why it's so hard.
In capitalism, your voters are going to leave you if you don't respect them.
You know, voters are very loyal.
They're honest.
They'll come back and eat at the same place.
I told you right now, what businesses have you gone back and bought from 100 plus times?
You would probably come up with a list of names.
You've gone to Uber hundreds of times.
You've gone to a place that sends you to liver all the time.
We go to places hundreds of times.
We are valuable customers to certain businesses.
This ESG thing, what it does is it spits in the face of loyal customers.
And a loyal customer is eventually going to sit there and say the following.
I'll give you a perfect analogy here.
You know, we had a guy I was working with at the former company.
He comes in, insurance, and he had a boss, former boss, that when it came down to promotion, he didn't give it to him.
And he says, I'm not going to give it to you.
I'm going to give it to somebody else.
Anyways, the guy doesn't get the promotion and he leaves.
He comes, starts working with us, gets excited.
Good things are happening.
He's very happy.
Everything good is happening to him, right?
All of a sudden, the former boss is now going through issues.
He realizes he valued that guy a lot.
He calls him back and he offers him a ridiculous comp to go back to the company.
Then that guy comes up and says, hey, man, I got to tell you, I got this opportunity, go back, and my boss is giving me this.
I said, I'm sorry.
I remember you telling me about what your former boss did to you.
Yeah.
Okay.
And you're going to go back to the guy that did this?
Yeah.
Then that means you don't value your loyalty.
You value money.
And if you value money, you're going to get destroyed.
You may win short term.
You may get a nice salary short term, but long term, you're going to get destroyed because the moment the value of loyalty isn't high to you, the market's also going to treat you as loyalty isn't important to them.
Right now, Fortune 500 companies who are trying to increase their ESG scores, what they're saying to the customers is, hey, customer, screw you.
We don't value you above our ESG score.
First comes BlackRock and all the money people, then comes you.
When your priority flips like that, people leave.
It happens in relationships.
It happens in small businesses.
It happens in friendships.
It happens in brotherhood.
It happens in siblinghood.
It happens everywhere.
And it's happening to these guys.
And I love, this is why I love capitalism because it's so freaking honest, straight up.
If you forget the basic rule of your customers, you're going to get screwed.
And that's exactly what's happening to these guys.
That's all I can say about ESG.
So keep doing it.
Keep pandering.
Keep trying to please both guys.
You know who you're going to lose?
Both of them.
Then you're going to be there by yourself.
Oh, I was hoping to get the girl and my best friend.
Life doesn't work that way, bro.
You went and hooked up with your best friend's girl.
You're a scumbag is what you are.
You know where you belong?
Nowhere.
Whoever you date next is going to know that you're going to do it to them again.
And whoever's your friend next is going to know you're going to do that to them again.
People spread and they talk about who you are.
They DM each other.
So, you know who that guy is?
Do you know who's really there?
Do you know who's this?
Everybody talks, except in the ESG space, it's public.
It's so awesome.
Got to love capitalism.
Such a great system, ain't it?
Don't you just love capitalism?
Yes, I do, sir.
And I love America.
Isn't that awesome, Tom?
It's pure.
Yeah, it's pure.
It's honest.
It's straight up.
And if you screw with it, it'll ruin your life.
Well, to the entire point you're making in the beginning, if you could pull up that tweet that Pat was responding to to kind of circle back to what Robin Santos was saying.
You want to see if she's single or something like that.
Yeah, I'd like to see what she's doing.
Can you zoom in?
Adam's more interested to see.
I know a lot of the guys in the comments think I'm gay for some whatever fucking reason.
You're gay.
You're gay.
Oh my God, who's that?
Yeah, yeah.
Hit me up.
Go back to her tweet, though.
I love her.
That Pat was basically talking about.
She's gorgeous.
But basically, He's talking about essentially the decline of America and via the corporate queering of America right here.
I actually really appreciate what DeSantis had to say.
Me being pro-America, he said, American decline is not inevitable.
Okay.
It is a choice.
And what I hope to bring is the revitalization, revitalization of America and not a president who takes cues from the woke mob and it's the inmates running the asylum.
And that's essentially what is going on right here to kind of tie in what DeSantis is saying with the ESG.
Back to that.
A couple of quick points.
He basically came out and he said, as I'm anti-ESG, what did he do in Florida?
He basically mandated that no ESG and any of the retirement funding accounts, anything that's happening here in Florida, that might be a federal thing nationally.
He says no social credit scores and no central bank digital currencies.
He came out and he made those statements and he said, I am pro-Bitcoin, which I think was interesting because he's going after the sort of libertarian free thinker vote.
Whereas Biden, he says, quote unquote, would kill it, meaning kill Bitcoin.
Well, in Florida, you were just at an event.
You're biting Bitcoin.
And Mayor Suarez also says he's running for president, apparently, whispering, talking about that.
Not exact whispers.
He's been a proponent trying to bring Bitcoin to Florida.
So there's a unified voice there about Florida supporting Bitcoin.
Bitcoin, not shitcoin.
Yep.
Just did this the moment of silence where somebody has to say, let's go into a prayer real quick.
Brother Heavenly Father, we'd like to pray for Dylan Mulvaney.
We'd like to pray for Vinnie Mulvaney.
We'd like to do quick Pat's Lowkey constantly thinking about Dylan Mulvaney because his son is Dylan, one of his sons.
Who's like the best awesome size to even put that thought in my head?
You've the one that brought it up the first time.
Because your son is such a freaking stud.
It's like offensive to the name.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, it's a great name.
I actually like his name.
It's a first and last name.
Yeah, Dylan Mulvaney sounds great.
And I think what he's doing is he's doing what he's doing.
The world is giving him attention and he's taking it.
It is what it is.
Okay.
So let's finish this up.
Let's finish this up here and go back to our business here.
Folks, if you're listening, Tom, Vinnie, Adam, you guys as well.
How early is it for people to pick winners?
Meaning, you know the saying, well, you know, never in the history of the NBA has a team come back from being three up.
Oh, these Celtics win tomorrow.
It's going to be cashed out.
If the Celtics win tomorrow in Miami, it's game over.
You're going to go back to Celtics.
Oh, my God.
Miami's winning game six.
It's over.
So here's the point.
The point I'm making to you is, is DeSantis Jimmy Butler or is DeSantis Tatum?
Is this going to be a situation where Miami is up 3-0, Celtics come back, Trump is up 3-0 right now with the big ass lead?
What is the likelihood that DeSantis, without a blunder from the other side, meaning if Trump gets indicted, if Trump, they're going to take him down and he can't compete, which any of those things can happen as well.
But say that doesn't happen.
What is the likelihood of DeSantis beating Trump in the primary?
Give me a percentage.
It all depends.
Oh, my God.
Do you want a percentage?
What do you want to give you a percentage?
At this point, I've been hearing so many facts.
I like a couple stories.
Trump is actually going to get on the debate stage.
He will.
Of course.
You think he will?
That's the biggest X factor.
You don't think he's going to get away from it?
You don't think that guy wants to talk?
Guys, that's like saying John Jones doesn't want to fight.
Yeah.
Well, he was doing cocaine.
Couldn't fight for a little while.
He loves to fight.
I hear you.
But it's not like I just came up with a story out of fucking nowhere.
There's been chatter about Trump not being on the debate stage.
So the point is, let's assume he's going to be on the debate stage.
Who's going to be on the debate stage?
You got DeSantis.
You got Pence.
You might have Mike Pompeo.
You have Sununu.
You got Nikki Haley.
You got Scottie.
You got Ramaswamy.
So let's see how he takes that barrage of attack versus dishing it out.
So I think it's going to be made for TV prime time way better than it was in 16 and 20.
Okay.
Because now there's people, his VP is talking shit to him.
So the percentage is making a comeback winning.
Winning the primary.
Yeah.
30%.
Donald Trump is in revenge mode.
And he's deserved.
Hold on.
Let me tell you, I'm sorry.
He's in revenge mode just from the Durham report by itself, bro.
Obama, Biden, Hillary, the FBI, everybody colluded to get his ass out.
And for all those years, he is furious.
He wants revenge, and he deserves it, bro.
He deserves it.
That's what I'm, that's it.
I think he has a 30% chance unless he does some outlandish shit.
Trump is looking for fire.
Rob said this yesterday.
It's Don versus Ron, 2024.
Donald Trump is going to win, bro.
Hear me out.
Whoever those side people are, Ramaswani, all them, Adams, like, who's going to team up on who the most?
You know what I mean?
Are they going to all go after Trump more or DeSantis Martin's going to be Trump?
But dude, Trump's a legend, and I think he's going to win.
He's out for blood, period.
I'm kind of a student of political history, and I went back and I looked and I saw there was a time when Mike Huckabee for almost two months was, it's a done deal.
Mike Huckabee's going to be the nominee.
It's a done deal.
Or Scott Walker, Wisconsin.
Remember that?
Yeah, not as long as Huckabee, but yeah, you're correct.
There's moments where, wow, Scott Walker, this can be the guy.
This is done.
This is a done deal.
It's going to happen.
Or Jeb Bush.
Never.
And then I'll show you a time where there was three weeks where Condoleezza Rice led all candidates.
So in the traditional elections, there tends to be time where these things pop up like this.
And for Huckabee, for Walker, for Condi, and you think, wow, there's our candidate.
It's over.
This time, and I love saying this because this is what Silicon Valley says about the economy all the time and about new companies, right, Pat?
This time it's different.
But I do believe this time it's different.
I'm at DeSantis has a 33% chance of getting the nomination.
That's where I'm at.
Good number, Tom.
And the reason I think that is it's not impossible, but there are so many things we've already talked about today.
I won't listen that he really needs to learn.
And being an astute political intellect about the things that America needs on policy, he's got that covered.
But that's not what the people that are out there hurting from inflation, hurting from things they want.
And Trump is that guy.
And Trump has got the evidence behind him.
He's like, listen, I'm not this bombastic guy.
Look at what I did and look at what I did with China.
Was I right?
I mean, the thing that Trump can run on a simple campaign slogan, a dream for America, but also, was I right?
You can say, I said I had nothing to do with Russia.
Was I right?
I said that China was dangerous.
I should push them economically.
Was I right?
I said that the southern border needed a lot of help and I didn't get the full wall built because they blocked me.
Was I right?
And so that's pretty powerful.
Now, what he can't walk away from is this very, very, you know, the offensive side where you have key parts of the voting blocks that Women, educated women, are like, uh, gosh, they just can't get around that.
But I think right now it's 33% for DeSantis.
Intellect aside, I don't think he can become the politician he needs to be to win the mob.
Well, you know, I'm a Vegas guy.
I always say I don't trust Pew, I don't trust Quinnipiak and all this stuff.
So I just quit.
That's a good policy because they got skin in the game.
And take a guess who is the current favorite from Vegas.
Take a guess.
Current favorite of all everyone to be president.
Okay, you're going.
What do you think?
I think Vegas has probably got Biden by a little bit more than 100%.
Okay, then who's number two?
Trump.
Trump.
Okay, and then who's number three?
Ron.
Okay.
For Ronaldo.
By the way, you said 33%.
You said 33%.
I said 33%.
You said 33%.
Roll the dice right here, buddy.
Joe Biden is the favorite.
Six to four odds.
So what is that?
66%, give or take?
Donald Trump, 12 to 5 odds, which is about 40%, 12 out of 5.
Ron DeSantis, 20%.
25%.
That's where it is.
And then it falls off a cliff.
Then you got RFK, Kamala, Michelle, Gavin, Nikki.
So it's a three-legged race, three-horse race.
Joe Biden at the top right now.
That'll obviously change once there's a clear Republican nominee.
Right.
Trump and DeSantis, 25%.
That's where Vegas puts it right now.
You got Tucker and Pence tied at 50 to 1.
Tim Scott.
Come on.
Hillary Clinton's even on there.
That's actually not a bad buy.
That's actually not a bad buy.
Believe it or what.
Hillary Clinton at age one.
No, you know why that's not a bad buy?
Because she never underestimates an ambitious, lazy person who is willing to do anything and everything it takes to get to the top.
She is the ultimate lazy, ambitious person that wants to be a president and very deceptive, very strong.
She can move a lot of different things for that to happen.
Go a little bit higher.
Look at Michelle Obama ahead of Newsom.
Tie tied to Newsom, but ahead of Nick Yaley.
Yeah.
Kind of country.
Well, because there's an open field on the left, not so much on the right.
One observation, Pat.
Look at how many Republicans, from Vivek to all these people that the right has.
The left has no, who does his left have?
Robert Kennedy?
Okay, I get it.
But then Kamala, they have nobody.
That's not a bad candidate.
That's what I'm saying.
But that's what I'm saying is, I'm saying, look at the pool.
Where's the badges?
The left is just barely hanging.
Wow, it's not even on that list.
Where's Vegas?
That's not even up there, dude.
What do you mean?
Bill Maher is 150.
Kanye West is ahead of Vivek.
They missed him.
Yang, Joe Rogan, the Yang.
This is God.
He's at 6%.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, Vivekananda in New Hampshire.
This one might have to be.
I don't know.
There is no way this is accurate.
There's no way.
They missed him.
That's a for sure miss.
But even if you think about it, Pat, okay, they have Biden.
Who else do they really have besides Kennedy?
The Republicans have bidden.
They've got the news in the face of unsorted confusion.
Their limits is less confused.
That's the worst bet to make to say Biden's like that.
Joe Manchin, 101.
Let me explain something, dude.
Joe Biden, if the people that voted for Biden, because they just wanted to get Trump out, if you still vote for Biden with the shit that's been happening, you are an idiot.
Okay.
And the only way he's going to win is if, God forbid, this new pandemic that the WHO just said is coming out, that all these people are warning us about Fauci, everybody, and you have to stay home and vote.
There is no way if he wins, something is off.
Something is wrong.
Don't even, how can you clearly vote for somebody after what the hell we've been seeing for these three years?
You're saying that you lived in California for 10 years.
I think you know what they've standing about.
What I'm saying is it was Trump and COVID.
Okay, finally, the orange bad crazy man.
He's gone.
Now we got Joe Biden, abysmal presidency so far.
What I'm saying is the fact that he's number one, if he wins the entire presidency, something is wrong.
Joe Biden is the goat, upside down, though.
Joe Biden is the goat from the other way around.
Yeah, if he's just going to, trust me, bro, they're going to keep him in the White House.
How do you explain to me how he can win?
How can you vote for Joe Biden right now in your right mind?
Sell me that.
If somebody says infrastructure, I'm going to walk out of that warning.
I'm not trying to sell you this, but I guarantee you, without a doubt, 49 to 50% of the country will vote for him.
That's bananas to me.
What do you mean?
They already did it.
They'll do it again.
That's insane.
I don't want your brains to end up all over the place.
I don't want it to blow up.
It's going to happen.
Just expect it.
It's going to be a close election.
Then 50% of the people are stupid.
And you're stupid.
Before he loses his mind, let's take a break here.
And I'm talking like a three-day break.
Yeah.
What do we got going on here?
So Tuesday, we'll be back with Home Team Podcast.
And then on Thursday, we have two of the three FBI whistleblowers who testified in front of Congress last week.
Oh, two of the three?
Two of the three.
The third's not doing any media now, but the other two will be joining us.
Garrett O'Boyle and Steve Friend.
Interesting.
And then Friday, next Friday, one week from today, Fresh and Fit live event here at Valutainment Studios.
Fantastic.
June 2nd, 5990live.com.
Go ahead.
Can I say one thing?
Put that link up.
5990liveevent.com.
Just America in general on this Memorial Day weekend.
And God rest the souls of all the soldiers that fought for us to give us this freedom.
I want everybody to just, by yourself, ask yourself one simple question.
Are you better off than you were four beers ago?
Four beers ago.
So let me just crack that in there.
Ooh, that sound.
And guess what?
Go ahead, Tom.
What do you have to say?
It says, if you're not better off than you were four beers ago, maybe go Memorial Day Week.
Maybe get a beer and chill a little bit.
And remember, you've got a whole year until you have to vote.
