PBD Podcast Episode 251. In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by, Adam Sosnick, Tom Ellsworth and Vincent Oshana.
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Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
0:00 - Start
5:57 - Michael Jordan selling the hornets
13:09 - TikTok CEO EXPOSED In Congress
28:16 - Epic rant about lazy people
36:35 - Working from home is being shut down by CEO's
47:00 - Reaction to the Nashville school shooting
1:23:44 - What Portland has become
1:29:34 - San Francisco forcing a couple to remove sidewalk 'obstruction' — or pay $1,400
1:35:01 - How great cities get destroyed
1:42:31 - Reaction to SHOCKING data from Wall Street Journal
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Hello, hello.
Okay, so what do we got today?
We got podcast episode 251, Home Team.
We got some crazy things going on.
We had our notes ready.
Yes.
Ready to go.
Tom printed a couple.
You have to use a couple trees to get his notes ready and what he's got to talk about.
Down with trees, anti-tree.
Right.
And then all of a sudden, obviously a tragic, tragic event takes place yesterday, taking the lives of three people.
This transgender, who, depending on what article you read, is going to tell you different stories of a man, a woman.
She walks in.
There's videos of it now that you can see.
Takes the lives of three nine-year-olds, innocent nine-year-olds, two 61-year-olds, and I believe one, the head of the school.
And she had a manifesto.
We'll talk about it today on the podcast.
Obviously, we got a lot of other stories that are also business issues, but we'll definitely get into this.
I know the last thing I've had some friends in Nashville.
I texted, I call them.
I'm like, you guys good?
You guys good?
Everybody's good.
Everybody's good.
But, you know, there are six families right now that are dealing with this.
And our condolences goes out to their entire family to hear another tragic event like this.
We'll talk about it, but there's a couple other things we got to talk about.
Business, TikTok.
Tom's got some thoughts on TikTok issues that's taking place.
There's a Wall Street Journal story that I saw.
I think all of you would enjoy this story.
It gives such insight about what's happened to American values.
The article reads, America pulls back from values that once defined it.
If you see how dramatically our values have changed from 1998, which you and I in 1998 were how old?
In our 20s, maybe, right?
Not even 20s.
17.
17.
You were 16, weren't you?
Like 1998?
Yeah.
So to where we are today, it's telling where we're at.
There's an incident on what happened with a Chat GBT that saved the dog's life.
Very interesting.
What direction some people are going to be getting?
Doctor's advice from ChatGPT.
Tom's got thoughts on AOC, events that is taking place with Net Yahoo.
I know you got some thoughts on that as well.
And Vinny on the DeSantis, where Trump told DeSantis he came in tears.
He was crying.
Maybe we can talk about the conversation where Trump told Hannity yesterday how DeSantis came in tears begging for his endorsement.
Now, having said that, gang, here's who's going to be at the live podcast that we're doing next.
Is it next Thursday, right?
It's next Thursday, April 6th.
Here's who it's going to be.
Confirmed in the flesh with us.
It'll be Dave Rubin, who will be in the podcast with us live at the 5990 building, as well as a man named Rudy Giuliani.
And to say it's going to be a very interesting one.
If you want to pick up tickets and register, there's a few tickets left of VIPs definitely sold out.
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If you can put the link below as well, Robert, so people can get it.
Go get your tickets.
I think we got 28 tickets left or 27 tickets left.
It'll sell out.
The last one we did was an incredible event.
Obviously, you know, there's a part of Dave that's going to defend on the DeSantis side, lean a little bit more on the DeSantis, although he's supportive of Trump as well.
And we know where Mayor Giuliani is going to lean.
But the timely, the amount of things to talk about with all these investigations, this is a man that's been through it for many, many years.
There isn't someone that's got as much experience to talk about this as he does on Trump, on TikTok, on Hunter Biden, on a bunch of different things that's going on.
And we're coming to you at a very special time.
It's going to be 6 p.m. that we're live.
I think it's 6 p.m.
People come in, but we'll be going 7 to 9.
And then afterwards, everybody will be hanging out together.
Some of the guys that are VIP will go to the cigar lounge.
We'll have a cigar together.
A nighttime party.
We've never done this before.
This will be the first nighttime we're doing because it's the weekend of UFC.
So some people can come enjoy South Florida and go watch the UFC fight on Saturday.
Anyway, having said that, let's get into it.
Maybe you should have Dave Rubin fight Rudy Giuliani and let you see how that goes.
Let's get right in.
I got my money on Ruben.
I'm having a weight class problem there.
Obviously, we're going to talk about what happened with Nashville.
Let me just go into a couple different stories here, and then we'll get into that as well.
Michael Jordan picks perfect time to sell the Hornets.
Picks the perfect time to sell the Hornets.
Tom, this is something you have some strong opinions on.
But let me just read the article first.
So Michael Jordan is selling his majority stake of Charlotte Hornets, which he bought for $275 million in 2010, a reported $1.7 billion.
This would mean a significant profit for Jordan, whose tenure as majority owners saw the team reached only the playoff births two times and no second round of the postseason.
The bankruptcy of team's local media partner, Diamond Sports Group, could put the future media rights of 42.
Listen to this, folks.
MLB, NHL, and NBA's teams in jeopardy, representing an existential threat to the leagues.
Teams like the Hornets, whose games are aired on Bally Sports Southeast, rely heavy on the cable.
And NBA attributed 13% of last season's earnings to local media deals.
Jordan may be looking to downsize his ownership role due to his struggles as an owner and instead to focus on other ventures such as his Nike brand or his new NASCAR team.
A deal is not imminent, but if he decides to move on, he may not find a better opportunity, Tom.
Well, I think a buyer is also going to find an opportunity here.
And what has happened, these local sports nets, Bally Sports, if you Google that, you see what happened to them.
That is critical.
I've been reading it's anywhere from 13 to 20%, depending on the team.
So in other words, if you're the owner and you suddenly lose 13 to 20 percent of what's coming in, you're going to have to reach into your pocket next year and cover the difference because you've got existing player contracts.
You've got existing leases on your stadium.
So Jordan's in a good place because he bought at such a compelling price and the franchise is worth 1.7.
So even if someone came along and said, yeah, I'm only going to pay you 1.3, 1.4 or some number, he can still make a good, tremendous deal on it.
And someone is still going to get a deal on the team.
But that someone is still going to have to figure out the gap in these local sports.
It's happening all over baseball and it's happening here.
This is just where the economics of the time in which we live, these regional sports nets, even with great advertising, you get more advertising for live programming because people don't fast forward through it.
And they don't like, you know, watch it on DVR later and then skip.
So all that's coming home here, but this could be a win for Michael Jordan, but also a win for someone that wants to get in as an NBA owner because I don't think they're going to pay the price that's in Forbes because what just happened with the regional sports group, that's going to be a discount effect.
I'm going to take a different angle.
You talk about a win for Michael Jordan.
MJ needs a win at this point in his career because there's no question he is the GOAT, greatest of all time, NBA.
Whoever you want to put second, third, fourth, fifth, you want to put LeBron, you want to put Kobe, you want to put Bill Russell, Will Chamberlain, throw them all on the list.
It's all good.
MJ's number one.
But on the list of all-time worst owners in NBA history, MJ's on Goat Mountain.
It's been so difficult to Donald Sterling.
Worse than Phoenix?
Listen, Goat Mountain.
Yes, Phoenix has been to the finals before.
MJ, how many times has he even been to the playoffs?
Well, that's one team in the finals.
The Phoenix owner has proved to be a pig.
Tom, let people live on basketball.
I'm wrong.
The reality is this.
What we've realized with MJ is that as great as you are as a player, it doesn't mean anything as an owner or general manager.
Listen, I'm a huge Miami Heat fan.
I've been to a million games, season tickets.
We've won multiple championships with the Heat, Dwayne Wade, Shaq, the whole squad, everything that we've done over here.
When we see Charlotte Hornets, who is in our division, show up on the calendar, it's like, just throw a W right there because this team doesn't do shit.
And you would assume that if MJ is the owner of your team, there's going to be some MJ magic.
You're going to maybe make it to the playoffs.
You're going to make a run.
Nothing.
The only thing they have to speak of is they have LaMelo Ball, who, again, broke his ankle this year.
So talk about breaking ankles in the NBA.
It's just, I'm an MJ fan.
I mean, I'm an Isaiah Thomas fan, to be honest with you.
Pittsburgh's bad boys.
But I want to see MJ succeed as an owner.
I want to see his team do well.
Unfortunately, they're just trash.
So why don't you, Adam, what would be the reason that you think behind somebody with that much knowledge for the game, that much power, that many relationships that he can't turn a team like that around?
Well, why do you think that I'm curious?
I don't know.
I think it's a combination of factors.
I think they haven't had a good coach in years.
I think the general manager hasn't done much.
I think their draft picks have turned out well other than LaMello.
I think the best player they've had in the last 10 years has been Kemba Walker.
He's out of the league at this point, who they had a mecha oka for.
I just, they have not put together a good squad.
And I wonder why.
I think it's an opportunity.
I'm sorry, Pat.
No, no, go ahead.
I think it's an opportunity.
That is why if I was in Charlotte, first of all, North Carolina is like basketball, Indiana, North Carolina, and Kansas is like the two most natural basketball states of the nation.
You have Duke, you have UNC, Chapel Hill, you have NC State and the legend of Jimmy Balvano.
You have Wake Forest.
Tim Duncan went to Wake Forest, I think, I believe.
So you have this in this basketball crazy state that's crying for an owner that cares enough to reverse everything that you just correctly pointed out.
The checklist you just gave, I agree with.
I think there's an opportunity for someone to do it.
And Charlotte, although is the second capital of the U.S. banking industry, as we know, it's known as the second capital.
You would think there'd be some money there, but banking's got a little hits going on.
Here's what I would say.
Wise move because NBA is a shitty product today.
And take your $1.7 billion, go put it elsewhere.
You're going to get better returns than leaving it in the NBA.
Do I think the NBA franchise, you know, is it going to double in the next decade?
Yeah, is it going to get 7.2% over the next decade?
Maybe.
Who knows?
But maybe he's going to get 7.2%.
The other part is, you know, to choose to be an owner, it's a very different philosophy to be an owner than it is to be a GM, than it is to be a coach, than it is to be a superstar, than it is to be a benchwarmer.
The same mindset doesn't work when you're owning a team.
When you're owning a team, it can't be about the owner.
It has to be about the player.
It's a very, very different dynamic when you're wanting to go that route.
And eventually, it needs to be more about somebody else.
That hasn't happened here yet.
But if you're buying a sports team today, I don't know if I'm buying an NBA team.
It's a waste of time to go to see any father that's thinking about spending $1,000 to take his son to watch LeBron play, to watch Curry play, to watch anybody play, except for a couple of players that won't miss a game.
Anybody that's thinking about spending $1,000, there is a high likelihood that your favorite player may not play on that day.
Why the hell would you take your kid with $1,000 that you have to go watch the game, knowing the best player may not play in a season game?
It's a shitty product today.
There's better products than the NBA to consider playoffs, different story, but season.
I think NBA is not a good product today.
Anyways, let's go to the next one.
So, Tom, TikTok is what I'm going to next.
AOC, TikTok defense ripped after Chinese parent company gave six-figure donations to Hispanic caucus nonprofits having to do with AOC.
And let's see how AOC is tied to this because she did a video that everybody was talking about, but it wasn't all the good things that was talked about her.
So here we go.
AOC defended TikTok after it revealed that the Chinese-owned parent company, Baitans, donated six-figure contributions to nonprofit aligned with Congressional Black and Hispanic caucuses, including the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, Congressional Hispanic Caucus Foundation.
In her defense of TikTok, AOC argued that Congress should focus on regulating social media companies' unchecked habit of collecting user data without their consent instead of banning an individual company.
She also called for Congress to use to receive a classified briefing before proposing to ban and for the public to be informed about the justification for such a decision.
Tom, what is going on here with TikTok and AOC?
TikTok is playing the game that Facebook and everybody else has played, and it's called Make Sure You Make Donations to the People That May Need to Help You If You Get Your Butt Huled Before Congress for a Hearing.
There's no difference in what TikTok is doing, what a lot of pharmaceutical companies and others do in the United States.
And AOC, who's the anti-Viagra for half of America, you know, she's out there touting that.
By the way, just so you know, a lot of people would disagree with you.
What do you mean?
A lot of people for two minutes would be willing to set politics aside.
But go ahead.
Yeah.
If it was me, I'd have to be, please don't talk.
By the way, I understand that part.
I understand that.
Don't open your mouth, please.
Just okay, whatever.
Let him go.
And can you hit the light?
So.
Tom, your wife's watching.
Have a little respect for the PizzTok paper.
No, Tom's.
It's still really going off right now.
So we'll get back to it.
So, what AOC was doing, she was preaching to the donation.
There's preaching to the choir, but there's also preaching to the donation.
She was preaching to the donation.
The other part of this that was very interesting, it gets worse.
That the cybersecurity lawyer for TikTok, who was scolding us about the hearings, was Don D. West, who formerly works for the office of the director of national intelligence.
So you had a former lawyer that worked for the United States, Director of National Intelligence, leaves government and does what a lot of people in government do.
You go work for the private sector.
We've talked about so many people in defense that go get on the boards of defense companies.
Well, Don D. West, D-O-N-D-I-W, formerly worked for the Office of Director of National Intelligence, and she's out there now as a cybersecurity lawyer for TikTok, blasting the United States and lecturing us where she got her education and worked in our government.
So did you watch any of the hearings back and forth?
What are your thoughts on that?
Yeah, so well, I think it's important to point out.
I mean, the AOC story is just dropping the bucket of what's really happening right now.
So last week, the CEO of TikTok, his name is Shu Zi Chu.
He's a 40-year-old.
He's actually born in Singapore, went to school in London, worked for Goldman Sachs, actually went to Harvard to get his MBA.
So he's sort of been all around the block.
He came and sat down in front of Congress.
If there's one thing that I can appreciate what's happening in Congress right now is the lack of bipartisanship when it comes to TikTok.
Democrats and Republicans both scolded Mr. Chu about basically what's happening with TikTok indoctrinating our youth.
We've talked about this before.
If you look at TikTok and China, it's all things to educate the youth, math, science, humanities, whatever they're allowed to show in China.
Whereas here, it's just nonsense, dances, you know, Clorox bleach challenges on steroids.
And I think, you know, TikTok has already been banned in what?
India, a couple of major countries.
Yeah.
A lot of countries in the EU banned it from government.
I think the United States is actually already banned it from government phones.
Government buildings, government buildings.
That's exactly right.
You know, this essentially is a Trojan horse for China to indoctrinate American youth.
And I think it should be a concern.
Now, if you ask the average 16-year-old what they think about TikTok, they love TikTok.
But fortunately, 16-year-olds aren't making the decisions in this country right now.
And you made a great, you made, I'm sorry, Adam.
You gotta go.
You made a great point about the Trojan horse we were talking about before we walked in here.
My one first thing is every week it seems like there's another story of China and how they're trying to screw us.
Okay, if you go back from think about it, COVID pandemic shut down the world, China.
Okay, they're flying spy balloons over America.
Nobody gives a damn.
It took all its photos.
Oh, we shot it over the water.
Like you said about TikTok, they're indoctrinating the children.
They're finding out who are the smart ones, how coordinated they are, the dumb ones that are going to drink the bleach.
And when are we going to say enough is enough?
I know we owe them a shitload of money, but who's going to step up?
The only person that did step up was Trump, and they crucified him because they called him racist for just saying hold them accountable, make them pay their fucking fair share in trade.
And then look what happens.
A pandemic comes out from over there and he's bye-bye.
Well, the hypocrisy here is amazing.
So take a look at this.
Not only, well, they're playing the political game well and they're getting a lobbyist in there and they're doing all that.
And then AOC is out there saying, oh, it's a slippery slope if you ban an app.
Really?
You wanted to ban Trump Social.
You wanted to ban Parlor.
So now it's okay to ban this one.
So that's a little hypocrisy.
But the hypocrisy goes deeper.
Let's look at China and the hypocrisy.
This is a list of American technology companies that are banned from the citizenry of central China.
See, that's the part that that question wasn't asked, though.
So what makes you think you can ban those apps in China, but us choosing to ban you in the country is bigotry, you know, whatever you want to call this other stuff.
By the way, phenomenal take there, Tom.
Can you do me a favor?
I got three clips I want to show you guys from this if you haven't seen it.
One is from New York Times.
One is from Kirk, which I think Kirk's going to be on the podcast in a week or two.
And the other one is from Bloomberg.
Can you get those three clips ready, Rob?
Start off with the first one, New York Times.
Let's go there first and see.
This is a Democratic, I believe, Congresswoman questioning Kim.
And look how this thing goes.
It's 50 seconds.
You spoke in your opening statement about a firewall relative to the business.
You raised the ball a little bit.
But the Chinese government has that data.
How can you promise that that will move into the United States of America and be protected here?
Congresswoman, I have seen no evidence that the Chinese government has access to that data.
They have never asked us.
We have not provided.
Well, you know what?
I've asked that.
I find that actually preposterous.
I have looked in.
I have seen no evidence of this happening.
And in order to assure everybody here and all our users, our commitment is to move their data into the United States to be stored on American soil by an American company, overseen by American personnel.
So the risk will be similar to any government going to an American company asking for data.
There you go.
By the way, that Congresswoman, Vinny, just asked me.
Is she a Syrian?
She's a Syrian.
She's from California.
Wow, shout out to a Syrian.
Play the other one.
Play the one with Charlie Crook.
Watch this one.
This one's got 5 million views.
My colleague, Representative Latta, confirmed that your parent company, ByteDance, currently can access user data.
Yes.
We have to be more specific.
Yes.
After Project Texas, no.
I'm not asking after Project Texas.
I'm asking now.
Yes.
Some user data is public data, Congresswoman, which means you can see.
My colleague, Representative.
Now go to the last one with Bloomberg.
This next one is the Wi-Fi one, which is, this is where, remember how Tom asked the question, Adam said they can't use TikTok in the government buildings and government phones.
And he said Wi-Fi, he says you can't use it.
They have the ability, apparently, through your Wi-Fi to see all the other things you're doing on your phone if TikTok.
Play this clip.
Jesus Christ.
Mr. Chu, does TikTok access the home Wi-Fi network?
Only if the user turns on the Wi-Fi.
I'm sorry, I may not understand the...
So if I have a TikTok app on my phone and my phone is on my home Wi-Fi network, does TikTok access that network?
It will have to access the network, to get connections to the internet, if that's the question.
Is it possible then that it could access other devices on that home Wi-Fi network?
Congressman, we do not do anything that is beyond any industry norms.
I believe the answer to your question is no.
It could be technical.
Let me come back to you.
I appreciate it if you can answer that question.
Can you pause it?
Can you pause?
That's a professional bullshit.
Just keep playing it.
Look at the guy sitting next to him, by the way.
That's the guy I'm interested in.
Pause it.
Who's the guy sitting right next to him?
Who's right?
Lawyers.
Now press play again for the eyes.
You got to see the eyes.
He's got the eye.
Look at that.
That's a legit La Cosa Nostra.
Don't say no.
The top of the phone.
Who do you think he is right there?
I mean, I just think it's important to point out that, well, state the obvious here.
ByteDance is the owner of TikTok.
ByteDance, what percentage of the CCP owns ByteDance?
A decent percentage of it, like meaning the CCP does have ownership in it.
And I think we're talking about this question of data and privacy and spying.
And, you know, call me an old-fashioned, red-blooded American.
But if any tech company is going to be spying on me, I want it to be an American company.
I want it to be Meta.
I want it to be Instagram.
I want it to be Google.
I want it to be YouTube.
I want American-owned companies to be looking at my data and spying on me.
Like a good old-fashioned red-blooded American, not no Chinese company.
America.
Spying on me, okay?
America first.
Yeah, and Exxon tried that.
If it wasn't for the Valdees, those ducks could be covered with foreign oil.
That's right.
But it's actually an interesting point that you make, isn't it?
Isn't it crazy how far we've gotten?
Like, wasn't during all the surveillance during Obama, people, Americans were up in arms, right?
People were like, I can't believe they're taking this.
And that, look at how amazing and brilliant from Mark Zuckerberg to TikTok to all this social media.
Now, they made it cool for you back in the day.
If somebody saw your, any, I was like, oh, I don't want people.
Now it's like, for instance, my sister is huge.
If you don't know nothing about my sister, you go on her Facebook, you know what she does, where she eats, what she's doing, what music she loves, who she hates, her political thing.
Dude, you know everything.
Like the CIA, I heard they have a name for Mark Zuckerberg.
Like they love him because what surveill you for what?
Go on two social media apps.
I know everything about you.
I know where you're going to go next.
They have that type of technology where they're like, well, we've monitored you for the past three days.
We know that because of your pattern, you're going to go to this restaurant on this day at this time.
Think about it now.
That's cool.
Chinese government has acquired a percent stake in one of three sets of board of Beijing Byte Dance Technology, the subsidiary that holds license that underpin the company's domestic video and information sharing platforms, according to a person from Leon Matter who's spoken on them.
Very interesting.
Yeah.
And just think about it.
When you go and you download any of these apps, right?
I'm joking about red-blooded Americans like data is money at this point.
Eyeballs are money.
When you go and you download any of these apps, American-owned apps, you know, they give you the whole 10-page long disclosure table of contents of what's going to happen.
All you do is scroll down to the bottom, except keep it moving.
Let me just get the app.
So who knows what kind of shit is said there when you're basically downloading these apps?
So nobody's reading that kind of stuff like that.
We're going to take your firstborn child, your wife.
Okay.
I want to get her.
Are they spying on you left and right?
Do you agree?
I agree.
Let's get on.
I want to see those dances.
And now when you find out people don't have Instagram and Facebook, aren't you like, what the hell is wrong with you?
You almost get mad at them because they're not giving out information the way that you do.
You know, so much does this come full circle.
Who did AOC defeat when she became House of Representatives?
Amazon?
Joe Crowley.
Joe Crowley, for the last two years, being that he lost his old job because she beat him, is a paid lobbyist that works directly for TikTok.
So isn't it interesting that suddenly the guy she defeated and her finally on the same side of an issue?
They're both trying to protect TikTok.
But the circles that have come around on this are just so ironic.
Because you said it me, follow the money, and you think about it.
The term selling your soul, but it's like, bro, if you pay me enough money, I questioned this this weekend when I was out at lunch with friends, how much money would it take for somebody to give you like, listen, shut up.
I know we're taking all the data from your own citizens and you're in Congress.
Take this million, cash, shut the hell up.
Let me ask you, the whole example you did when you were posting on TikTok, you were getting like four views and then you called China out or Byte Dance Out and then you got 4 million views.
Where do you stand now?
Give us that rundown.
Oh, yeah, that's absolutely proven on what happens with that.
We saw it.
The videos are back to normal.
But if you look at my Instagram, if you look at my TikTok profile today, I posted a video of Joe talking about our podcast and how we do interviews.
And I posted that.
That got flagged.
They said that is a warning for the content.
And then I got a warning sign on my TikTok account and multiple whatever way.
Now there's a new thing that they're talking about, strikes.
But it's back to normal, what it was before.
Again, but if you say anything about China on TikTok, you're going to get flagged.
What if it's a bunch of pictures of Shi and you're like, I love him?
Like, what if you're supporting him?
By the way, do you know what's the one video that went viral on TikTok yesterday?
A girl talking about why politicians are afraid of TikTok and they want to ban it.
He says, she says, you want to ban TikTok because we're getting smarter, because we're getting stronger than you, because us young teenagers and we're getting this and we're getting that.
That's why that video went viral calling out all this stuff, not knowing what's really going on.
Anyways, let's go to the next story.
Adam, I know you got some opinions on this one here.
Is this the end of male overachievers love affair would work a Bloomberg story in the U.S. corporate life?
In the U.S., corporate life is defined by overwork and its reverence.
First of all, nobody says that, but that's what Bloomberg says.
What higher-up expected to work longer hours and receive high rewards for it?
Men tend to end up at the top of professionals that are most demanding and lucrative, while women get shut out due to sexism.
Just reading this article is due to sexism and not having enough time to dedicate to these types of jobs, which result in top-earning men making more than top-earning women.
Evidence shows that pandemic may have disrupted corporate America's love affair with workaholism.
Between 2019 and 2022, men who were the biggest earners and our clockers cut back on work more than any other cohort.
How many other cohorts are there?
It's men and women.
The average U.S. worker locked 1,791 hours in 2021, which is higher than other countries such as Canada, Japan, UK, France, and Germany.
Overwork exasperated the gender gap by 10%.
But the pandemic may have delivered the shock needed to push that trend into reverse.
So, cohort, they're talking other countries.
So, Adam, what are your thoughts on this?
So, I mean, as I'm reading this, I'm kind of like throwing up in my mouth a little bit right there.
It's just so far-fetched and so ridiculous.
So, it's basically saying women are getting shut out of the workplace because of sexism.
I mean, I probably get canceled for saying this, but if you go just to human nature and human evolution, men were born to work.
And this used to be known as hunter-gatherers, right?
Men were the hunters, women were the gatherers.
Men were out there killing the saber-toothed tigers and woolly mammoths and risking their life to put food on the table for their family, whereas the mothers were raising the children and creating homes.
And only in the last 30, 40 years with modern feminism has this sort of been questioned.
And women work all you want.
Please.
But part of the reason that you're talking about sexism and not having enough time, it's women have what are those things that women typically have when they get pregnant?
Oh, babies.
A lot of times when they have babies, they don't work for a good year, two, three, four, five years.
Maternity leave.
Like people.
Like people to judge.
Yeah.
Like people to judge.
Whereas the man continues to work.
Men were built to work.
If you see a man out there who doesn't work, he's like, Yeah, I'm just not feeling the work thing right now.
Just like, what are you doing?
What are you talking about?
That's an unacceptable thing to say as a man.
100%.
As a woman, if you're like, well, I'm not really working right now.
I'm on maternity leave.
My husband, totally understand where you're coming from.
And at the end of the day, for a man, we have this debate over work-life balance, 40-hour work weeks.
Your input is equal to your output.
What you put in is what you'll get out.
If you want to work the bare minimum, just expect the bare minimum.
If you want to put in long hours and work your ass off and build something and create something and consistently improve, you'll get out what you put into it.
So at the end of the day, when it comes to investing, it's risk and reward.
If you're willing to risk it all, what's the reward?
By the way, when you're saying maternity leave, one year, two years, three years, five years, it's 12 weeks in America.
You're saying that some choose to go spend that time with their kid, with their baby is what you're talking about.
Correct.
But for the most part, maternity leave is typically 12 weeks according to.
Just to clarify, I'm not talking about corporate allotted time.
I'm saying a lot of women are saying, I'm not even going back to work for a year.
And that's why I brought up Pete Buddhaj, because, I mean, he's back at work, but he's not really working Pete Buddhaj.
Well, he's just, whatever.
I don't agree with him taking off months, three months or however long you get.
Pat, what's your thoughts on this one right here?
Since you're a male overachiever.
Yeah.
Well, do the opposite.
See what happens to you.
Go ahead.
Do the opposite.
Go be a male underachiever.
See how you feel about yourself.
Go ahead.
Why don't we, hey, Bloomberg, why don't we have more male underachievers according to the way you're judging male overachievers?
What do you think will happen to society if we increase male underachievers?
Yeah.
Okay.
More male underachievers.
They tend to not think highly of themselves.
They tend to not get girls.
They tend to not have their dreams become a reality.
And they tend to become a menace to society.
They ruin things in society when they become underachievers.
Underachievers are not good for society.
And Bloomberg is sitting here bashing overachievers.
Let me ask you a question.
When you celebrate Daniel Day-Lewis winning how many different awards?
He's won the most Oscars, I believe.
For what is it?
Leading Roman.
The Mohicans.
Last of the Mohicans.
Last of the Mohicans.
My left foot.
My left foot.
He's won three or four of them.
White Oscars.
When he did the Last of the Mohicans, he went out there and lived in the woods to know what it feels like.
So he didn't act.
He lived it, right?
What an overachiever.
Terrible guy, right?
Oh, my horrible guy.
When Johnny Depp goes and plays Pirates of the Caribbean, and he does such a good job that now Disney has to offer him $301 million and he's still not going to go back.
What an overachiever, underachiever guy.
What a bad thing he is to society.
One of Michael Jordan Goh's practices or Kobe Ghost practices, what a terrible overachiever we got.
If there's anything we need in America, it's not more underachievers.
God knows we need more overachievers.
So overachievers out there, we salute you.
Keep kicking ass.
We recognize you for your efforts, for your sacrifice, because it's a lot of work.
And FYI, to me, overachievers is not just in work.
I see mothers who go above and beyond for their kids who are overachievers.
I see CEOs.
I see salespeople.
I see customer service.
I see a person that works at McDonald's that's an overachiever.
I salute you.
I don't care what your job is.
If you're going above and beyond to do your job, eventually someone's going to take notice and you're going to get a promotion.
One of the best stories Ron Paul ever told me was the following.
Ron Paul said, I got addicted to this one economist and I would go drive up.
This guy was a, he gave, I don't know, 4,000 deliveries of babies, what Ron Paul's done.
He says, so all of a sudden, I'm starting reading these economy books and I'm addicted.
I can't stop reading.
So I go back to the lecture and I said, look, I can't stop reading this stuff.
What do I do with all this material I'm learning about?
He says, let me tell you how the world works.
You keep talking about what you believe in.
The right people will show up and figure out a way to use you effectively.
So if you are at any company doing anything you can, if you're an overachiever, don't worry about it.
Eventually someone's going to take notice and you're going to get a massive opportunity, whether it's within the company or outside the company.
Power to overachievers.
Let me go to the next story.
Can you just point out one thing about the irony of this article?
This is written by Bloomberg.
Bloomberg.
Okay.
Michael Bloomberg, the founder, is the definition of an overachiever.
He's the top 10 richest people in the world.
His net worth is close to $100 billion.
I mean, the antithesis of what you're basically saying is Michael Bloomberg.
But here's the thing.
Yeah, you're right.
Before even going, go to this article, Rob.
I don't even know what the author looks like.
What do you think this person does for a living?
Okay, it makes sense.
Is that her?
Beth?
Okay, let's look her up.
Beth Colbert.
Click on her link and let's go to her LinkedIn.
What school do you think she went to?
Maybe Columbia.
I don't know what school she went.
Let's look up her profile.
There she is.
Actually, go to her profile.
Faster.
I'm actually curious now.
Senior columnist.
Okay.
Is that her?
Senior Mala.
Go all the way down to see what school she went to.
Go all the way down.
Go all the way.
So she was at Fortune magazine before Bloom.
Columbia.
Boom!
And I guess.
There you go.
And I guess I didn't even have a clue.
I guess she went to Columbia University.
Of course, they're producing people like this that hate capitalists.
Wow.
No wonder.
Is anybody surprised?
Hello, folks.
The next time your kid says, I want to go to Columbia University, this is new age journalism.
This is new age journalism, not the stuff that we used to get years ago.
Anyways, let me get to the next story here.
Next story is: work from home era ends for millions of Americans.
This is from a real newspaper called Wall Street Journal.
A labor department report released this week shows 72.5% of business establishments said their employees telework rarely or not at all last year compared to 60.1% in 2021.
The survey showed about 21 million more workers on site full-time in 2022 compared with the prior year.
Several large companies have said they have their employees to report in person more often, and they said they began pushing harder to get staff to work on site more often as recessions, recession fears prompts an increased emphasis on worker productivity.
Walt Disney Company now pushes for four day a week on site and Meta Platform Inc. Zuck said that in-person time helps build relationships and get more done.
The share of business establishment hybrid arrangement where employees split time between home and workers work site decreased in all measured industries in 2022 from 2021 declining 13.4% across the private sector according to their labor department.
Tom there is a lot going on in here and I'm about to go like to 1.5 mode if that's okay.
So you have all these people that are upset about work from home.
Well, guess what?
With the recession coming, it's about to be go back home and you could get laid off and lose your job.
Here is what's going on in tech.
Remember tech, the darlings of the liberal side that take care of other people and make them special organic pizzas in the Google cafeteria.
Here we go.
Apple is threatening to take action against staff who aren't coming to the office three days a week and they're going to monitor your badge to make sure that you do because they think, quote, with the recession coming, we need collaboration.
Then Oracle is forcing some employees to come back to the office.
Mark Benioff, excuse me, excuse me, Larry Ellison comes out and says, we've missed the benefit of in-person collaboration and mentoring that drives our creativity, improves our decision making.
It helps us learn from one another, especially as we come into a competitive era.
Translation, recession coming.
Let's get in the huddle and get shit done.
Tree number two gone.
It says, Mark Benioff has revised a plan to stack rank the bottom 5% the way GE used to in the 80s, 90s until Jack Welch retired.
And he said the annual strategic plan will include return to office mandates because we have a vision, V2MOM.
So V2 MOM, which stands for Vision, Values, Methods, Obstacles, and Measurements for the New Year.
And measurements are hard to take place unless people are here working together on teams.
Tree number three.
Then Amazon's HRT sent a memo rejecting, rejected.
I sound like Chick Hearn here.
Rejected.
March 24th, just the other day, our HRT formally rejected the internal petition by 30,000 Amazonians, as they prefer to be called, who signed it and said that the return to office RTO mandate was unfair to them.
Their comment was, we respect the petition.
We appreciate your collaborative nature in which you brought the issue forward.
However, the RTO mandate that Andy Jassy has outlined will stand.
We need, here it comes again, collaboration and teamwork.
I can't respond to every accommodation request, but this is the decision of corporate.
Now then, guess what you heard in there like seven times?
Collaboration, teamwork, you know, recession, tough environment.
Let me tell you, you want to complain about work from home?
There are Reddit threads out there right now, Pat, that are warning each other.
Hey, you know, if you may have an opinion, but go light on it.
You don't want to get targeted if we have to do a bunch of layoffs and you're on the work from home and you've been kind of pushing back too hard against management.
Be careful.
So there are voices on the Reddits that are reminding each other, yeah, show your opinion, but I don't know if I want my signature on a petition because if they're looking for layoffs, I don't want to be seen as a troublemaker.
Whereas corporations, it's not about troublemakers.
We're about to go into recession and they're talking about getting stuff done, driving hard and building stronger businesses during it.
And by the way, I'm not leaving out Mark Zuckerberg because you just read in summary here.
He says, in-person time helps build relationship and get more done.
Adam, and I'm sorry, Penn had to cut you off for everybody who's watching.
Me and Adam lately have been really like into the planet and earth.
All the trees that you killed, can we just take a moment of just silence for all the trees that Tom just killed for that one bit?
I appreciate it.
You're funny.
But you know what?
You know how sometimes you listen to every single news station and they use the same line.
You know that one clip that shows like 75 different anchors all saying the same thing, same thing, same thing.
Yeah, it's like a central narrative.
Narrative narrative.
You can tell all of these guys also talk to each other.
100%.
Every one of those guys got on a call and we said, let's use the word collaboration.
So let's throw a bunch of words against the wall.
Which one do you like the most?
All those stories are 72 hours from beginning to end.
That everything I pulled, it's all together.
What do you think are the chances they had a call together that they all spoke to each other?
10,000%.
Okay, I'm with you there.
And by the way, guess what?
Guess what?
Now, all the people that are saying, well, you know, if you don't offer a work from home, you know, we're just not going to do this.
But by the way, let me tell you a crazy story.
I can't tell you.
The coverage is over.
I can't tell you who, but you know who.
And I'll tell you after the call who.
This week, two of these biggest bankers in all of America, okay, very well-known guys.
We got on a call.
They're the best team in that company.
You know who they are.
I called them after six months of back and forth.
We're giving them some money.
And I said, here's some money.
I want you to look at give me some options of investing into things right now.
You know what his answer was?
He says, we'll take the money and we'll put it in cash.
And we're not buying anything right now because we believe that SP is going to go to 35.
And there may be a chance that SP goes to 32.
SP today is around 39.88, around 4,000.
To go from 30, like 4,000 to 35, that's a 15% drop off.
To go to 32, that's a 20-something percent drop-off, exactly 20% drop-off to go to 32.
So these guys in all the big Wall Street guys are all sitting around saying there's probably a very big, you know, drop-off coming up here soon, the next few months.
To say they're aligned on the same page together, most of them are.
It's very rare you tell a salesperson, take some money, go sell me some products, make some commission, and for the salesperson to say, what?
No.
How often do you hear a salesperson saying no to making commission?
You rarely hear that.
Okay.
This happened to me today's what?
Today's Tuesday.
This was on a Friday call that I had with these guys.
What do you think of that approach?
Well, first of all, I love that approach.
You know, I love that approach.
That's the right approach.
But if you do it that way, and you know what I told you guys, I said, let me tell you guys something here.
I've been around the block for a long time.
You treat me right.
You'll have me for a lifetime.
You don't, you don't.
I said, I'm just getting barely started with making money.
You know, I'm 44.
I'm in the money making years.
We got 20, 30 more years of making money.
There's going to be more investments that we're going to be making together.
Moral of the story is this.
More of these guys who are running companies, who laid off 19,000 employees?
Is it Accenture?
No, it's, I think Accenture.
Is it Accenture that laid off 19,000, Rob?
Yep, Accenture to cut 19,000 jobs as IT spending slows.
This is 19,000.
If you can zoom in, 19,000 jobs they're laying off, right?
Left and right.
Yesterday, Jeff Bezos had a video.
Jeff said, if you're right now sitting around seeing what's going on in the marketplace, everybody is bracing for recession to come.
And it's coming.
Jeff is talking about.
He says, the advice I would give to the average person is, if you got some money, take some money off it.
Take some chips off the table.
If you got some savings, don't make any crazy decisions right now.
That's what Jeff is talking about because we don't know how bad it's going to be, the direction we're going on.
Unemployment, we're going to experience all of this stuff that's coming here, right?
And all of those guys are now going to say, well, if you don't let me work from home four days a week, I will not work for you because I got four other options.
You know what you should say now?
I totally understand, sweetheart.
Go somewhere else because this isn't a place for you.
That's what all of those guys are saying together.
And they're very aligned.
That leverage is over.
You are so right.
It's not leverage time.
That abuse is over.
Yes.
Companies felt abused.
The employee thought they had leverage.
But it turns out to be fake leverage.
And by the way, this is censure.
This is not Amazon saying we're laying off.
What was it?
I think Amazon was like $19,000 plus nine, and they came back and it was like $27,000 overall.
This is censure.
This is not warehouse workers.
That's freaking Accenture.
These are highly educated white-collar workers in finance, accounting, and professional consulting.
Yeah, 9,000 more in addition to 18,000.
Yeah.
So Accenture is like, I'll see you $18,000 and raise you $1,000.
By the way, we talked about this.
I want to say, you can tell me the date on this.
We talked about this at the peak of COVID, where it was, we talked about how if you can go get a raise, go get it, go do, do you remember that conversation?
And I said, don't do it.
I said, I'm telling you, don't do it.
It's going to backfire.
No, go do it.
All those years of social capital you had with a company when you left, you lost it.
All of that loyalty, the relationships, all of that, you lost it.
It's gone, right?
You don't have that anymore.
The people that didn't do that, they deserve to be recognized.
Those who did do that, they're paying the price today.
I believe we were in the middle of the momentaries, right?
What does a mercenary do?
It could have been in Boca.
You're right.
I think it was a Boca thing.
What does a mercenary do?
A mercenary shows up for the temporary war and then goes off somewhere else.
They're paid soldiers.
They're paid soldiers.
So if people wanted to be mercenaries working for Amazon and then Amazon now lays them off because they're like, these folks here are dedicated and working.
Man, what goes around comes around, you know, as they say, FAFO, you know, so, and guess what?
People are finding right now level 10 of that experience.
So let's go, Rob, can you pull up the article on what happened with Nashville and go through the story?
I want to read it.
So, okay, so a tragic event that just took place.
At this point, everybody knows about this.
Six killed in Nashville shooting.
Victims identified.
Three of them were nine-year-olds.
The names are given on this article.
We don't need to go through the names.
Two of them were teachers.
One of them was a substitute teacher, 61 years old.
The other one was a custodian.
And the other one was 60 years old, the head of the Covenant School, was killed by this girl that is a transgender, identifies as a transgender.
I'll read this to you.
Shortly after 10 a.m., okay, three adults and three.
The shooter, 28 years old, Audrey Hill, who once attended this school, was killed after being confronted by officers.
Below is what we know about this development.
Shortly after 10 a.m. on Monday, a shooter opened fire at Covenant School, a private Christian school attached to a church enrolling roughly 200 students from a pre-K through sixth grade with 30 faculty members.
The Metropolitan Nashville Police Department said the shooter who was armed with an AR-style rifle and an AR-style pistol and a shotgun and how can she care?
She entered a school through a locked side entrance after shooting the door down.
The asylum shoot, Rob, if you can find a video because there's a video of her walking in, go to Twitter, type it in, you'll find Twitter's the easiest way to find it.
The asylum shot at the victims in a lobby of the building.
She targeted random students in the school.
Whoever she came in contact with, she fired rounds.
The MNPD chief John Drake, the first call for the shooting came at 10:13.
Police officers quickly responded and shooter fired at officers through the window on the second floor.
Police entered the building confronting the killer and shoot on the second floor.
The attack lasted 14 minutes, according to the police.
Early Monday afternoon, spokesperson of Vanderbilt University, Vanderbilt Medical Center, confirmed that three children were taken to the hospital.
Gunshots has died from gunshot wounds.
Let me see the picture with the father and the daughter.
It's just, it's heart.
This is tough, man, to see what's going on here.
It's tragic.
Yeah, right there.
Look at her going through.
This is her.
How much?
Female.
It was a female that now identifies as a.
Yeah, but let me explain something to you.
When the coroner shows up, listen, the coroner shows up and they do the autopsy.
It's a female.
So let's just put that to bed.
But Pat, what were you just about to say?
Well, you were saying, you said the moment this happened yesterday, you were driving past schools.
And what did you see in front of us?
So right off driving past.
Right off the rip, Pat.
I drove by two schools on the way to my house.
There's already cop cars sitting.
And I'm pretty sure everybody in America is seeing this right now.
There's cop cars without the sirens on, just like that cop right there with their lights on as a deterrent.
Okay.
And there's two points I want to hit, Pat.
Christy Pratys, who writes for Valutaine.
She wrote an article called It's Not a Gun Problem, It's a Mental Health Problem.
She talks about how at what point, because let's be honest, okay?
There's you're not going to take away guns from Americans because the moment you do a gun grab, the majority of the people like me, Pat, like you, that own legal guns, you're going to take all our guns away.
And then you think all the gangsters from all the Chicago and all they're going to go, okay, you know what?
The government asked for our guns.
Let's give it back.
But she made a good point.
I was talking to my boy Mike when we came in here.
Pat, when are we going to address the opioid crisis, the drugs, the suicide rates going up?
She did a good part in this where she was according.
No.
Oh, the list goes on and on.
The lack of faith about Christianity and no God.
This is a Christian school.
And I think she went.
He, she, whatever, I'm not going to say that.
She went.
She went to that school.
Chrissy wrote this.
According to gun violence archives, there has been 130 U.S. mass shootings in the first quarter of 2023.
89 of them have been school shootings.
The full number of shootings in 2022 counted 647.
When are we going to take a little step back?
Because you know, automatically the government's going to say, up, everybody, guns.
Give me your guns.
Give me your guns.
It was actually quite embarrassing yesterday.
Joe Biden spoke and the shooting already happened.
You know what he came downstairs and said in the White House?
Hold this up.
Pull this up.
Pull up because it's a little bit uncomfortable.
Uncomfortable?
Should I preface it, Pat?
Yeah, go for it.
He comes downstairs, Pat, and he's joking.
I get it, guys.
He has dementia.
He's out there.
He starts talking about ice cream and how he loves ice cream and how they have ice cream upstairs.
And then he sees four kids and he's like, look at how beautiful these kids are.
Make them stand up.
It's like, what?
What?
How prone deaf do you have to be?
This is right after the shooting.
Yeah.
He goes, go back.
My name is Joe Biden.
My name is Joe Biden.
I'm Dr. Joe Biden's husband.
Six people just died.
She's not a doctor.
Chocolate chip.
I came down because I heard there was chocolate chip ice cream.
Look at this.
Ridiculous.
By the way, I have a whole refrigerator to go upstairs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then what about the one?
And then he spots four kids in the back and he's like, look, whose beautiful kids are those?
Finny, was this for him to talk about the shooting?
He's supposed to be talking about the shooting because I mean, it happened regardless of what he addresses it later on, Pat.
But let me explain something to you.
The tone deaf of this moment.
Yeah, he's lost it, but there's people that are dead.
The first thing you should be talking about is that, not joking around.
Okay, so right there.
By the way, check this out.
No, just pause it.
Whether he's going to talk about it or not, look at the time at the top.
It's live.
It's 2:43 Eastern Time.
This was at 10 a.m. Eastern Time.
It's been four hours and 43 minutes since the incident.
And you're joking?
He's having a good time.
My parents lost a nine-year-old child.
Okay.
A 261-year-old teacher on a custodian and a 60-year-old dean of the school, head of the school.
And you're joking about this?
He's happy about it.
But not happy about it.
I'm just saying.
I don't know.
I'm not saying he's happy.
No, no, he's not happy.
I'm saying he's tone deaf.
And I'm going to say two things, Pat.
And here's what it is: besides the mental health that Chrissy was talking about, when are we going to, okay, can we at least try something different?
I know when you have this conversation of more guns, if you see a cop, Pat, if you see a cop car somewhere, and you know what?
The target by where I live, there's a cop car, Pat, just chilling, sitting there.
No cop is there.
You know what that does?
That makes somebody that's thinking about doing some squirrely shit out there, shooting or stealing.
I'm not going to go there.
Why don't we try, for the sake of these kids, and God rest all the souls of all the people that passed away?
Put some armed, professional people just in the schools.
We talked about this.
We talked with Levik.
We talked about this on a couple different podcasts.
99,000 public schools in the U.S., 60,000 a year hired, retired military police officers.
That's $6 billion per year.
We give Ukraine $140 billion.
We could have kept the kids safe for another 14 years.
By the way, I don't know the exact numbers, but that sounds about right.
And we talked about why not make the investment to do that.
14 minutes is how long this person was in there before they got there.
14 minutes?
You know how long that is?
And what's 14 minutes?
You know what's 14 minutes?
So in 40 minutes, how many places can you walk in this building in a parking lot?
He can walk up and down this thing 10 times in 14 minutes.
So by the way, the fact that, and I know this is going to sound strange, it could have been way more than six in 14 minutes.
It could have been way more than six in 14 minutes.
Question was asked of one of the heads in charge saying, hey, what could you have done?
You know, the door was locked.
Are you guys going to do anything different to put a cop in front of all the doors?
You can't put a cop in front of all the doors.
So, you know, the risk is going to be there.
But for you to, I mean, you know how certain security you have in place to protect certain buildings that you walk in and it triggers something.
There's got to be a better technology.
Like, by the way, this is a great opportunity for an innovator and an entrepreneur to be looking at the saying, there's a major need for this.
Parents would support it if whatever technology you come up with, it costs XYZ amount of money.
That school can go to the parents and say, hey, for this much money, we can offer this kind of protection for the schools.
Are you guys up for it?
Private enterprise can do it.
This is a private school.
Public needs to go figure out a way to address this.
But if it keeps happening over and over again, there's got to be a way to address this issue.
And why won't they?
And Pat, if it keeps happening and you're not giving us any other, can we at least try something?
Can we put armed professional, not PTSD veterans?
Like Pat Me, I was a cop in the military.
You know, I'm really good at shooting.
Put somebody like me in there.
Because think about it, Pat.
Let's just say for devils that you're the shooter, Adam, and you're thinking about going to this school.
If you know somebody like me is in there, you might pick a different school.
Am I right?
What's this, Rob?
So, this is a bulletproof safe room that they've installed inside of a school in the United States to help students and teachers in case of a newspaper.
So, 22 million views.
Press play.
Oh, wow.
Oh, that's sick.
Oh, wow.
And then you just go in there in the corner.
And then that's it.
Oh, wow.
That's actually pretty good.
My point of view, whenever I first came in here and I saw this, I was like, oh, my goodness.
See, I love that.
Yeah, that's amazing.
Now it comes down to costs.
It comes down to a bunch of different things, but I love that.
I'd love for some like that to be in place.
Go ahead, Tom.
You know, when you defund the police, this is what you get.
I mean, we're going to talk a little bit later about Portland and what's happening to the economy up there.
But there are private schools that are already doing things right now.
And unfortunately, you know, this one got through.
But there were two things here.
The number of victims there could have been was much higher.
And I think these police also learned from Texas and what happened at Evalde.
Remember, the police waited outside and they were strategizing.
An hour and 14 minutes, they sat outside.
Correct.
An hour and 14 minutes.
We've been in here for less than an hour.
I saw yesterday said these police were armoring up, running from the patrol cars.
You know what I'm saying?
The secondary armor, Pat, you know, and the helmet and everything.
And they were going in and they were getting live briefing.
They figured out where they were and they didn't take any moments.
They were like, okay, second floor up here, in and up.
So they didn't wait.
The police here, Pat, didn't wait.
It was 14 minutes, which is 14 minutes too long.
But they learned a lot from Evalde about the local law enforcement saying, hey, you know what?
I have to armor up and I got to get in and I got to be up.
And I think schools need to understand it would not take tremendous investment.
There are schools already that I visit.
You go through the front doors, which is like a weather door.
It's kind of like in the Northeast where you have the weather door at a restaurant and then you walk in.
There's a second door, you know, that little square area.
Well, it is so easy to make those bulletproof and basically, you know, crash-proof.
And then you have a little camera there.
Anybody been to a school where you have that situation?
Walk through the first thing?
And one security guard, a roaming security guard, and the 14 minutes is going to come down to four minutes.
It's just the willingness to do it.
The cost is not huge.
And it's the willingness to do it.
One side will say, take away all the guns.
This will solve the issue.
And then a mentally ill person is going to put, okay, thank you, Pat.
I'm going to interrupt you on that.
Timothy McVay went to a freaking home depot and loaded up a truck with fertilizer.
If you are mentally, Oklahoma is deranged, yeah.
If you are mentally deranged, you can find low-tech common things to carry it out.
Your car, you can just drive through a group on a playground.
That's not correct.
You can drive through, oh, this has never happened.
Drive an SUV through people celebrating a sports victory.
Never heard of that.
You know, while yelling out the window, never happens.
The mental, the people that are mentally challenged, we need to raise the American consciousness of it's not just about when George Bush said, see something, say something, you know, about people, you know, certain people walking around and looking suspicious.
This is, we have mentally disturbed people in this country that need help, and we need to harden the schools, and also we need to proactively be looking at it.
And what you're talking about, about fentanyl, it's the list of the things that people on the left just want to say, it's all about the guns.
No, it's not.
It's a pets, I feel like this country used to be all about the children, love and protect the children.
Kids, yo, they don't got a freaking chance.
They're getting sexualized left and right.
You know what I mean?
They don't give a damn about them.
The school's like, bro, they're in school.
You have to protect these innocent people.
And I'm sorry.
And I know people from the left are like, what?
Morgue fire to stop a fire?
No, you have to stop the bad guys.
And sometimes you got to arm the good guys to fight the bad guys.
And I'm sorry, that's what it is, bro.
Put me in that school.
I guarantee you that person wouldn't have had 14 minutes to do shit.
By the way, you know what's the one state that has the lowest crime in all of America that a lot of people are moving to right now and no one's talking about it?
You know what state it is?
I'll guess.
Idaho.
Okay.
Do you know Idaho is one of the states at the top with the most people who have a license to carry?
It's 8%.
Okay.
License to carry.
You go to a restaurant, there's 10 people there.
One of them is carrying.
So guess what happens?
You want to go rob a place?
Go rob a place.
So now to the people that are saying if we ban guns, that's the solution?
No problem.
There's something called data.
Chicago leads the way.
Okay.
Baltimore leads the way.
You can go to a lot of these states and cities with strong gun laws and see how it's working out.
It's called case study.
If you go to a business school to get an MBA, an average MBA grad is going to go through hundreds of case studies that they look at.
Here's Amazon case study.
Here's Lululemon case study.
Here's Apple case study.
And you'll see what's working and what's not working.
There's plenty of case studies for that.
And people are going to lose their minds when they talk about this.
Here's the other part.
Pull up the tweet exchange between JD Vance and Keith Oberman.
So watch this.
JD Vance, Adam.
Senator out of Ohio.
Yeah.
So we're still learning about the horrific shooting in Nashville.
But if early reports are accurate, that's a trans shooter targeted a Christian school.
There needs to be a lot of soul searching on the extreme left.
Giving in to these ideas isn't compassion.
It's dangerous.
Look what Keith Oberman says.
Number one, you're remarkably stupid and a hateful creature.
Or B, why don't you use that little brainpower you have to explain the irrelevant reality here?
This is an alumni of a Christian school who targeted it, right?
So the back and forth of commentary with these guys, first, they don't want to identify this is a trans individual.
Okay.
And to go through that and try to normalize it is potentially causing some of this.
I think Tom, when you see some like this exchange with our buddy and that article I sent you with the Tennessee, what was the newspaper, the Tennessean, where it says in there, if you read the article, it says, the suspect who police have identified as a 28-year-old transgender man entered the school through a side entrance and began shooting.
Identified, if you can just control F, control F, put transgender, you'll find that sentence.
There it is.
Put control F, identified as a, identified as a 20-year-old transgender man.
So here's what becomes when they're trying to play these types of games.
Yeah, I'm so confused.
There's a big difference between ideological beliefs and demands.
Don't make me sit there and say, no, you have to be more compassionate.
No, no, no, no.
You believe that.
More power to you.
This is happening.
We have to give credence to that as well, that maybe there's some issues going on here with individuals like this that are coming in wanting to do something.
And the first thing you want to talk about is what?
The first tweet Biden has right after this event, guess what it was talking about?
Gun laws.
Yeah, take away your guns.
Everybody was talking about taking away guns.
Not necessarily taking away guns.
It starts off with over-regulating of guns is what the conversation starts with.
In fact, Chrissy sent me a clip of Benny Johnson, who Elon Musk liked.
This shooter was trans.
The Colorado Springs shooter identified as non-binary.
The Denver shooter identified as trans.
The Aberdeen shooter identified as trans.
The Nashville shooter identifies as trans.
There's something going on, like we said, mental.
We have to check.
That's number one.
Everybody's always going to go for the guns.
What the hell is going on with people?
The younger suicide rate is at an all-time high.
Mental disorders, all these problems.
We have to go back to the person that's behind the trigger, not the gun itself.
And until we do that, Pat, you're going to keep seeing this.
They're going to keep killing innocent people until that changes.
But do you think they give a damn?
His job, their goal, the government, is to disarm us.
The Second Amendment is for what?
To stop from tyranny from your government.
So when the government is telling me, give me your gun, I don't believe you.
You think I go vote your rights?
Do you think that's going to happen in our lifetime?
Taking away our gun.
No.
I don't think so, Pat.
And this was the thing.
People were always like, well, they got lasers and they could kill you if they want to.
Okay, do all the laser stuff, but at least when you guys come to get me, I'm taking one of them out.
That's it.
I want to have my gun.
Do you think they're going to take guns away from us in our lifetime?
No, I think it's going to be progressively regulated.
And I think at some point in time, you're going to have the right mix in Washington and they're going to declare X number of weapons to be assault weapons.
And you'll notice also in this article, did you catch the little AR style pistol?
I don't know what an AR style pistol is.
And what they're attempting to do is to create, use AR almost as profanity or danger and apply.
You see what I mean?
Yeah, assault rifle.
Yeah, and which doesn't stand for assault rifles, but as you know.
Yeah, of course.
But they don't.
And I think in our lifetime, we're going to see that start.
You don't need a machine gun to kill Bambi and other things like that is what you're going to hear.
But I think we'll see that in our lifetime.
But I don't think we're going to see a ban on our lifetime.
I'll just say one thing.
I don't think that we're going to see guns being taken away.
But my biggest fear is that as Americans, we're becoming desensitized to these types of tragedies.
Okay.
Because this is in the news cycle right now.
By tomorrow, it'll be gone.
And that's the reality of it.
Whether it's Columbine, whether it's Sandy Hook, whether it's Uvalde, whether it's Parkland that was just 10 minutes up the street from here, whether it's here in Nashville, it's like this is becoming part of Americana.
And that is fucking disgusting to me.
And what's the definition of crazy?
Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting different results.
So we need to figure out what solutions can be implemented aside from taking away guns.
Because I don't think that's a solution.
I think that's a great idea of putting cops and security guards and ex-military in front of every single school in America.
Why is that not already done already?
And this is going to be a little contrarian view.
And this is sort of the antithesis of what our judicial system is.
I think that if you commit a mass murder tragedy, your family should have to pay some repercussions for what you do.
I agree 100%.
And I know that's not how the legal system works.
But at what point are we just going to say, oh, this psychopath came into school.
We killed him.
He killed six kids, 10 kids, 20 kids.
Kids.
Up, justice served.
What's going to happen to this person's parents?
I agree.
How did he get the guns?
Who put him in the house?
100%.
Who's taking care of this person?
And I know there's going to be people out there saying, no, that's not how the judicial system works.
Well, whatever's working right now ain't fucking working.
Something's got to change.
Well, you're right.
And by the way, you can tell those people it is how the judicial system works.
Find out what happens if you have a kid under 18 years old that goes in and breaks a window at a neighbor's house or has a car crash in a neighbor's crash.
Find out who has to pay for that.
It's the parents, the parents of that under 18-year-old.
And so you're exactly right.
And I think people need to understand this is how the justice system works.
And there are parents that are getting sued for the acts of their children, including assaults, under the age of 18.
Good.
And this person was 28.
So who do you punish?
Yeah, well, this person was 28-year-old grown up.
Whoever their closest contact is.
From looking at that picture, that person probably has a cat or multiple cats.
You were taking all your cats out.
I don't care if it's their best friend.
I don't care if it's their aunt, their uncle, their grandma, their dad, whoever the closest person is.
What's your logic?
What's your logic behind that?
Because if you kill this person, tell me.
Okay.
Yeah.
Who's paying the price?
I'm asking you, who's paying the price?
Okay, the families will be grieving.
The children are dead.
Totally get it.
At what point are decisions you make your decisions, not those who raised you decisions?
At what point?
Obviously, you have to take ownership of the decisions you make, but we're talking about vengeance here.
And consequences.
We're talking about consequences to the shooter.
But the shooter doesn't care about consequences.
That's why they're going into a shoot.
But you need to do it.
I'm assuming that every person that does this has someone close to them that they care about.
Okay.
And just follow the math.
Who do they live with?
Who takes care of that?
That's a different story.
So let me show you a text exchange she had that day.
I don't know if you guys have seen the text or not.
Let me send it to you.
Rob, did I send it to you or no?
Okay, let me send this text to you and show this because this is disturbing.
So somebody knew this was about to happen.
And this is the part where Adam's argument gets some credence.
This person needs to be held accountable.
If you can show, I send it to your computer and I send it to your phone.
This is the text exchange.
Zoom in.
This is from who Pat?
The shooter from the shooter.
So basically, that post I made on here about you that was basically a suicide note.
I'm planning to die today.
This is not a joke.
You'll probably hear about me on the news after I die.
This is my last goodbye.
I love you.
See you again in another life.
Audrey, you have so much more life to live.
I pray God keeps and covers and cover you.
And then boom.
And no, no, like you have to be on the phone calling.
911 call.
I don't want an FBI because this person go to whoever Aiden is.
Okay.
Step up.
Needs to pay a price.
I agree.
Okay.
Call the cops.
Because if there is an understanding from Audrey that, oh, if I do this, Aiden, who I love, will spend their life in jail, have ramifications.
All you need to do is think twice.
Like, something needs to happen here.
But based on the law right now, Aiden is not responsible for anything.
But we knew that this was going to happen.
But see, I think this text from Aiden, like even if, listen, he, whatever, I'm not going to get into this game.
Basically, I don't know if this person, this is a suicide.
No, if even if you love this person, you got to go try to find out, help them, call the cops, because this is like a cry for help.
Like, I'm going to kill myself.
There was no mention about killing or shooting the kids, but like, I think Aiden needs to be on the ball.
You ever had people in your life close to you that said they're going to kill themselves?
I had one person once say, like, they were really, really close, Pat.
not only called the parent, I called 911 and I was speeding to their house to make sure that they're okay.
They didn't do it and they're doing great.
Cops show up.
Cops did show up.
The bomb showed up.
She was hitting the person.
Was it a real attempt?
Was she prepared?
No, it was he wanted to end it.
He was on his, like he was sad the pressure.
Bless you, Tom.
I've never had someone say that.
I've been around depressed people that said I've contemplated it, but it was usually a very rational conversation where they were saying they contemplated it, but no one called me at that moment and said, hey, I'm out of here.
How about you, Adam?
Indirectly, like not.
So sometimes if you have somebody like this in your life, this is their way of getting attention, and you don't know which one's going to be real and which one's not.
So one time, somebody did this to me one too many times, and it would ruin my day fear, concern.
I had to go to disruption at the highest level.
So regular day, they say this, and you have to go to check what's going on.
You have to check out what's going on.
Finally, I'm like, this last time, middle of the day, I'm in a business appointment meeting.
This person calls and says, I just took this many pills.
I'm taking my own life.
And I said, no problem.
I'm calling the cops.
They're on their way.
No, no, don't call the cops.
No, I'm calling the cops.
Cops showed up.
Good.
And cops went there, took this person to the hospital, took him to the mental hospital, got everything checked out, and they said, you want to take your life?
No, no, I don't want to take my life.
So why are you telling this person you want to take your life?
Long story short, that behavior stopped.
When you have people like this in your life, they're, man, it's not, it's easy to make the claims that you make, right?
Like, you know, you talk about your father openly.
Nobody knows the life you lived with him, right?
Nobody knows it.
You can tell the stories, but we're going to be like, come on, Adam.
You know, we're like, no, I'm telling you, this is what happened to me.
So who can take that away from you?
Nobody can take that away from you.
You probably, no matter how many hours you took to try to explain to us what it's like, we're only going to know less than 5% of it.
Is that a fair assessment to say we're going to know less than 5% of it?
To have people like this in your life, to me, I feel sorry for having people like this in your life.
So what leads to people being like this?
Okay, let's go through a couple of things.
I'm spitballing.
I don't know.
I'm just openly talking.
So what gets somebody to get to a place like this?
One is upbringing.
Yeah, 100%.
There's credibility.
The credit there goes to parents, good or bad.
Okay, schooling, where you grew up, the school you go to, teachers, society, peers, drugs, doctors.
I had a dentist that was selling Vicodin to my friend, my best friend, he was selling Vicodin to.
I went and found a dentist.
I went and found the dealer and I had a very interesting conversation with them.
But I lost my friend by then.
He committed suicide.
He died.
It was too late.
So, you know, who do you give credit to?
Who gets responsibility for this?
Parents?
You know, some parents raise their kids well, and they go to school and somebody gets a hold of them and you lost them.
I had a good friend of mine at the house, the individual I spoke to about our, you know, before I started insurance company, this is the guy spoke to Bill and Beth, his wife.
They were over at the house.
We're having a conversation together.
And he was saying, as a parent, whatever you do between 0 and 12, that's it.
That stays.
From the day the kid is born till 12, that's your shot at giving this kid a chance at life, like to make the right choices, the values, the principles.
So does a bit of the credit goes to how this person was raised, zero to 12?
Almost everybody I meet that is willing to have a conversation about this, I always go to, tell me your father, your relationship with your dad.
I hate him.
Really?
What happened?
He was never there.
Okay.
I mean, that's natural rage you're going to have.
I can't tell you how often when I'm talking to somebody, trans, gay, whatever it may be.
Yeah, my father's an asshole.
My father's a diss.
Sometimes it's.
I have a good relation with my mom and my dad.
Okay, cool.
But sometimes it's not.
You know, you have to look at what caused this and see if any of it we can control.
And then no matter how much of it we can control, some of it, we just can't control.
I agree.
If God gave us the free will to make the choices that we make, that means some of the choices we make are going to be horrible choices.
This person made a horrible choice.
You ruined six people's lives.
How long is it going to take for those people to stop mourning and recover, especially the nine-year-olds?
Are you kidding me?
That scar is permanent.
Permanent that that takes place.
It's not an impulse.
It was a plan.
Yeah.
And Pat, I respect, again, I know people are going to be like, Adam, we quit.
Listen, at least the guy is giving us, give me an option.
Give me other things.
Because we talked about Adam back in the day, bro, when it was like these terrorists that are doing stuff.
Guess what?
You do this, just giving you a heads up, your wife that you love.
And I'm sorry when it comes, I mean, we went extreme.
But Adam, when you were talking about putting the veterans or the ex-cops in schools, and you know what argument you're going to get.
Do you know how expensive that's going to be?
Okay, then guess what?
Let's do a halt on the, what, $300 million we're sending to fucking Ukraine and put it into protecting our people, our kids, and our schools.
Let's stop giving other people money and protect this war that's going on.
You can't put a price on saving our kids.
That's what I'm saying.
My right price.
What are we talking about?
What about the war in crazy people shooting up schools?
Gets no more money to anybody till we figure out that solution.
So don't give me the, we don't got money to protect the kids bullshit argument.
I hate that.
When I hear that, it drives me bananas.
Okay.
There's money.
You just don't want to do it because their goal is to take away our guns anyways.
You know, every American can engage on the mental health crisis.
And I'll tell you how.
I was listening to something.
It was a quick summary.
I understand psychologists and psychiatrists maybe listening will say, you know, it's oversimplification.
I'm not the expert in repeating what I heard.
And they said, look, there's two major sides here.
One side is true deep mental illness, delusional episodes, schizophrenia, drug addictions that bring across things.
And you're on one side of the fence where it's real mental illness and a huge challenge.
On the other side of the fence, you have SISW, self-image self-worth.
And that brings depression.
And you have a lot of that right now that's showing in the studies on social media about girls with this social media being an endless comparison playing field.
And oh, I didn't get as many likes.
I guess I'm not as pretty.
The little video I made wasn't as good.
You know, I'm not as crazy.
I'm not as cute.
And so you have self-image, self-worth, and depression.
That is the side that all Americans can work on.
And it's called put the phone down and have conversations with kids.
I really admire Adam when he talks about his nephew and the things he does with his nephew because that is an example.
Whenever I'm around my friend's kids, I always do this silly little thing with handshakes because it puts value on a person and it puts recognition and you're looking into their eyes.
But there's things all of us can do as Americans.
And it starts with putting the phone down and having face-to-face conversations with people because the mental health side of things, you know, you may be helping somebody on the self-image self-worth side and these things that go to depression.
If you go to the movies recently, and how many of us have seen it?
Anybody seen the Dove commercial aimed at girls and social media and vivid self-worth that they show before the movies?
No.
And they talk about, hey, put the phone down.
You look good.
She said, maybe I'll do this.
Maybe I'll do that.
And they're like, put the phone down.
You're beautiful.
Right.
And so you have Dove out there.
They're trying to sell soap and they're trying to do it to be politically active and be on the right side of an argument.
But there's a deep truth that goes in there.
And I think all of us can. reach out from these digital relationships and be intentional about personal relationships.
And it's amazing that you say that, Tom, because we just went full circle to when we started about social media apps like TikTok and everything and all that.
It's a war for the youth and driving, like those type of people are losing their minds because they have no identity.
They don't know.
It's all a battle of who liked me, my video, this, this, and that.
And it comes full circuit to where we're at a war and it's a, it's, like I said, it's not a ground war where they're shooting guns and everything.
That's the war that they're doing.
I heard it described as the endless comparison playing field and the kids are trapped on it.
How many likes did I get?
Is my video as funny as theirs?
All the things that go then, this endless comparison playing field.
And nobody's, there's always going to be somebody more, something better, something there.
And then you're going to feel bad.
You feel, well, I'm just not there and feel less about it.
And it's all happening in the digital realm, not face to face.
Tom, what page is this?
Go ahead.
Finish this thought.
No, just going to finish this thought.
My biggest fear against is just what's next.
Do you recall when the Uvalde shooting was in San Antonio area?
A year.
When do you think that was?
A year?
A year ago this month.
Yeah.
Oh, wow, wasn't it?
It was May 24th, 2022.
So less than a year ago.
Okay.
So here's just some stats for you.
There have been 13 school shootings this year that resulted in injuries or death.
We're only three months into the year, guys.
There have been 157 shootings since 2018, 51 school shootings with injuries and death last year, 2022, the most in a single year since Education Week began tracking such incidents in 2018.
There were 35 incidents in 2021, 10 in 2020, and 24 each in 2019 and 2018.
So they're going up.
It's just so sad and it's so tragic.
And there's no price that you can put on protecting children's lives when they're in school and Congress and senators and representatives and the president figure this shit out.
I know it's not that hard, but you know what I mean?
If we could put shit on Mars and all these places, you can't.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
If they can unite on TikTok, they can unite on this.
So why don't you unite on this and see what you can do?
You know the left is going to say, can we do background checks?
Can we do training?
Can we do this?
And the right's going to say, can we, instead of sending money to here, put some money into this?
But they're going to have to go back and forth to figure this thing out.
The question about will they eventually take the guns away in our lifetime, the answer is most likely no.
But will some states?
Yes.
And what's going to happen to those states?
They're going to lose people who feel more protected having guns.
And they're going to go to states that allow you to have guns and they're going to defend the Second Amendment.
And the same way where people left LA, California, they left New York.
They left Illinois to come to states like Florida, Texas, and some other states.
It's the same way you're going to see people leaving.
And a quiet state like Idaho is gradually going to grow and attract certain markets.
There's going to be states like that that have a higher freedom score, higher values and principle score, which we'll get into here in a minute of a Wall Street Journal article.
They're going to attract those people.
So I do think some states are going to go away with it.
Why is there no committee on this?
I don't know if there is.
I'm asking, why is there no committee on this?
Probably is.
I would say there probably is, and if there isn't, they...
That's not president, Adam.
That's not, it's Ukraine is a more important situation.
And the committees, there's bipartisan groups that come together.
I mean, there's a January 6th committee.
Okay.
How is there not a school shooting committee with five Democrats, five Republicans?
Figure this out.
Let's get to the next story here.
Again, our condolences goes out to those six families who had this event happen to them yesterday.
No matter how much we talk about it, those guys are the ones that are having the biggest pain right now.
Having to explain this to your siblings of the nine-year-old of what just happened.
This is not an easy situation for them.
Our condolences goes out to those families.
So next story.
Cracker Barrel becomes latest company to flee Portland amid rising crime retail theft.
It is closing its final eateries in the Portland metro area, citing the impact of COVID-19 pandemic on its business.
The closure are in Beaverton, Tua Leeton, and Bend are effective March 20th.
The spokesperson for Cracker Barrel said the pandemic had made it difficult to staff and profitably run the stores.
Walmart announced it was closing all of its Portland stores in February, citing financial reasons.
The CEO of Walmart had previously warned that stores would close if retail crime didn't subside.
Crime and homelessness have been growing issues in Portland over the past couple of years, with over 2,600 downtown businesses failing, filling a change of address with the U.S. Postal Service.
A Nike store in northeast Portland abruptly closed in November 2022, just a couple months ago.
After a string of brazen shoplifting incidents, a real estate developer and lifelong Portland native, Dustin Michael Miller, said the city was out of control and unrecognizable.
Tom, what do you have to say about the story?
You wanted to defund the police.
You wanted to say that people are just acting out because of decades of discrimination.
You got it.
And this is the unintended consequences.
And so why don't we just substitute retail theft for excessive gun control?
And that is exactly what is happening in Oregon.
People are leaving.
And now the law-abiding citizens and the people that love Oregon, like this guy here says it's out of control and unrecognizable.
Unrecognizable means he recognizes a time when it was different, when it was a time for his family and what he was doing.
But this is not going to stop.
Defund the police.
This is the polluted pond at the end.
So now what do you do with the polluted pond?
You go upstream, you see what polluted it.
And the upstream problem was you allowed, what was the name of that little, they gave a name to the, Rob, the downtown area.
They called it the something.
The chaz thing?
Yeah.
Where some people took over the downtown Portland.
I want to say Chaz.
They called it Chaz.
I think it's called Portland.
Yeah, they called it something, which was the occupation of that, like a couple of streets.
Yeah, exactly.
This is our area.
No cops will be allowed here.
And this is what's going on here and Occupy Portland.
And so you got it.
You got what you asked for, you know, and it's terrible.
And look what's happened to the citizenry that was not behind that.
You know, 100% of the people in Portland voters were not in favor of defund the police.
They were not in favor of, you know, oh, just let the looters go.
It's, you know, just sort of economic redistribution.
Really?
Here's the outcome.
Everything's closing.
You have an uninhabitable city.
Now what?
Exactly.
And the fact that they were blaming Colvin, it's like, no, just be honest and say, listen, we messed up.
We supported the wrong policies.
But you know what I love about this?
What?
Here's what I love about this.
You know, 18 years ago, I'm 25 years old.
We're sitting in a room with a bunch of other guys who are around the same age, and we started at the same time with this insurance company.
And everybody is bragging about the fact that one thing's bigger than the other.
They're harder working.
They're better leaders.
They're better builders of leaders, all this other stuff, right?
You know how the meeting ended?
I said, well, no, in about 10 to 20 years.
Oh, wow.
And that's how this thing works.
You realize one guy slowed down at a certain number.
One guy, the attention got to his head.
One guy was all about the girls.
He was always distracted by the girls.
The other guy was arrogance.
The other guy was ethics.
The other guy was a Christian guy who was very happy.
He reached a number and he was cool with it.
He didn't want to keep continuing going.
He was doing good for himself.
No problem.
But eventually, you learned who the real big thinker was.
Time reveals a lot of things.
Time reveals a good friendship.
Time reveals a good relationship.
Time reveals a good economy.
Time reveals a bad policy.
Time reveals a good politician.
Time reveals a good administration.
Time will reveal everything.
It's either your best friend or your worst enemy.
Nobody beats time.
Nobody.
Time is going to get you.
If you do right, eventually the market's going to say, listen, man, whether you like this guy or not, we got to give him credit.
When you were screaming off the top of your lungs how amazing your policies, what about the funding to police like Tom said?
Guess what it's showing now?
Not a good idea.
Not a good idea.
We're leaving you.
When you were screaming about the fact that, hey, let's put double mask and all this stuff in the state of California.
And do you remember when it was text people who are not wearing a mask or they're out there not respecting the what is it, the non-essential text, and we'll give you $200 if you can tell people who are out there snitching on them.
That's Mayor Garcetti when they had the texting concept.
Guess what?
Yeah, people don't want that.
They left.
Bad policies eventually get exposed.
You cannot fake bad policies.
It's happening in San Francisco.
Listen to this story with San Francisco.
Tell me this makes any sense.
So how many of you guys would like it if somebody in your community put up a free library for kids who can't afford to read books to go read books?
And it's free.
At their own cost.
At their own cost.
They're not even asking you to pay for anything with this, right?
So this family in San Francisco, couple decides to do this.
And watch what happens.
It's page 15 story if you want to go to it.
So San Francisco is forcing couple to remove sidewalk obstruction or pay $1,400 fine.
It's a little free library, okay?
And by the way, this story is by Insider.
It's not even a story by Fox or anybody else.
It's an insider story on the left.
The city of San Francisco has been cracking down on unpermitted projects that interfere with public ways, including a little free library owned by Susan and Joe Myers, who were threatened with a $1,402 fine if they did not remove it from the sidewalk in front of their house.
The crackdown is part of the effort to remove decade-old awnings on businesses in Chinatown benches constructed by residents and other unpermitted objects.
The library is popular in the Myers neighborhood, and many residents staged a campaign to save it, resulting in the letters to the city from locals, including a young girl who begged, please do not destroy Joe and Susan's library.
City officials have responded by saying they will do everything they can to make sure it stays in place.
The Myers could have obtained a permit for $1,402 to keep their library, but they decided instead to work to change the system.
As a result, city officials are considering cheaper permits around $5 for similar free libraries and benches.
And this is in a city, San Francisco, which if you've been in San Francisco 20 years ago, incredible city.
If you've been to San Francisco recently, it ain't the same San Francisco.
And that's their fight.
I'm sorry.
And so bad, think about it.
City is gone to shit.
Pardon my French.
And this is what you're worried about?
This is what's pissing the people off.
$1,400.
Leave them alone.
You know how small that thing is?
It's small.
It's a little baby angel in the bottom.
It's not in the way of people walking.
It's right next to.
But that's the fight, Pat, Pat.
Not the homeless guy doing crack and shooting up shit and they're giving them drugs on the right.
That is pissing people off.
Well, now we know how the math works in San Francisco.
You want to put a free library up to actually help people in your neighborhood.
$1,402.
Taking a dump on their front lawn is free.
So let's go back and take a look.
This is an example of a liberal city hall that's just lost its freaking mind and it is indefensible.
Even the residents of San Francisco have to look up and say, wait, wait, what?
I still have needles on the streets and you're still giving out bleach kits and clean needles and you're giving these out because, oh, we don't want the addicts to get HIV.
Well, no problem.
That way he won't have HIV when he has a fentanyl overdose on Tuesday.
Great.
And you have all this stuff going on.
Homelessness is a problem.
And not just the homelessness, but the theft that goes with the homelessness and the disease and what's happening and the filth that's there that goes with the homelessness.
Okay, so you're not doing anything about that.
And by the way, to keep the police department from being overwhelmed, you know, petty theft at like 500 is non-punishable.
They don't even give you a jaywalking ticket.
Nothing.
And I think they raised it to 1,000.
Somebody done the chat and call me out if that's not right.
But I think they raised that.
So they did that so that they wouldn't be overwhelmed.
So that basically what it tells thieves, you know, coach bag $3,000.
Louis Vuitton bag $3,000.
Don't take that.
Laptop, $9.99.
Perfect.
You know, make sure that whatever you take is under the threshold so that you're not going to be prosecuted.
So the Liberal City Hall does this and then suffers the embarrassment.
And this is embarrassment from both sides of the aisle on a nationwide basis that something good that somebody actually tried to do in the shadow of a city doing nothing gets penalized.
No good deed goes unpunished in San Francisco.
I'll just say this.
This is where I went.
I just, I wanted to see what the most liberal cities are and what the most conservative cities are.
And it's not even close, like how much bigger the liberal cities are versus the most conservative cities.
And I just think it's one of those things where the bigger your city gets, the more people you have, the more population and the diverse opinions and the diversity of racial equity, inclusion, all that kind of stuff like that, the more nonsensical things tend to get because you're dealing with so many people and so many differences of opinions.
And then you're trying to regulate and over-regulate and the nonsense.
And then you enter the, you know, like Tom's talking about, defund the police and BLM.
And you're dealing with so much stuff.
So here's a list of the top 10 most liberal cities.
San Francisco, number one by far.
Two, D.C., Seattle, Oakland, Boston, Minneapolis, Detroit, New York City, Buffalo, New York, shockingly, Baltimore, Chicago, and then our friend Portland rounding out the top 12 right there.
Then you have the most conservative cities.
You got nobody's living in these cities.
Jackson, Mississippi, the Woodlands, Texas, some city in Idaho I can't even pronounce Gainesville, Georgia, not even Gainesville, Florida, Provo, Utah, Fort Smith, Arkansas, Rapid City, South Dakota, Claremont, Florida.
I've never heard of it, and I lived in Florida my whole life.
Great Falls, Montana, Greenville, South Carolina.
I'm just saying this.
These liberal cities, as nonsensical as they are, their job is so much harder than conservative cities because there's so many more people in these cities.
So here's a question you got to ask.
Here's the question I got to ask.
And Adam, hear me out on when I ask this question for you.
Every major city, did it start conservative or did it start liberal?
Let me ask it one more time.
Every great country, okay?
Every great country, every great city, every great state, did it start conservative or did it start liberal?
I would guess that it started a little bit more conservative.
Every great company that was founded, was it founded by a capitalist or a socialist?
Capitalist.
Capitalist.
Okay.
New York City, was it built by socialists or capitalists?
Capitalism.
Listen, capitalists build and create things.
Socialists and liberals destroy them.
It's that simple.
So just because the city is big now, don't forget the people that built the city.
The credit isn't who's running it today.
Because what socialists are turned on by, the best example to give you a socialist is the following.
You ready?
Here's socialists.
Okay.
You're in a world with a lot of girls.
What happens if you bring a girl that you know she's a gold digger?
Who will she find?
She'll find the dude with money.
She'll find the dude with the money.
Will she ever find the guy that dates the guy that doesn't have the money?
She's on gold digger principles one on one night.
She's likely no.
Shit, what you look like.
She's solving for what?
Digging gold is what she's solving for, right?
She's solving for digging gold.
Okay.
Socialists are not going to go to those cities.
Those cities don't have money for them to dig.
Socialists go to big cities to dig gold.
AOC may be the biggest gold digger in all of America.
They're digging gold.
Let me go take all the money from the people that built an incredible city like New York and see if I can destroy them and demonize them.
So every time you give this argument about it is harder to manage a liberal city.
No, no, no.
Don't feel sorry for these guys.
Let's not get sympathetic for Nancy Pelosi on how hard her job is.
San Francisco was once an incredible city.
Those bridges were not built by socialists, okay?
That city, that incredible, all over the place you go to when you look at it, he's like, I cannot even believe a city like this exists.
How beautiful it is, right?
A capitalist, a conservative, built that city.
And then eventually, a socialist, someone on the left, came and destroys the city.
That's how cycles work.
Companies are founded and built by capitalists.
They're destroyed by socialist leaders within a company that want to please everybody.
A company that's built at the beginning stages of it, they're built knowing they're going to offend some people.
Then it's destroyed by a new leader that comes in that's afraid of offending the people that are not growing the company rather than being worried about the people that are growing the company.
I did a video yesterday with Kai and Brandon and Kelly and Mike.
And we're sitting here.
We're kind of going through it.
And you know what this whole thing was about?
Here's what the videos was about.
And right after this, I want to go into this article because I don't want to do this without this.
And I got an X7 call.
I want you to think about Adam in your life, Vinny.
Yes.
Tom, who gets the best out of you?
Think about the people in your life that got the best out of you.
Who got the best out of you?
Think about names.
I can give names.
Who got the best out of you in your life?
Who got the best out of you?
Can you think of names?
Give us some names.
Yeah, like my mother.
Okay, put high school football coach.
My high school football football coach.
Give us his first name.
Mike.
Okay, who else got the best out of you?
Tom, who got the best out of you?
Gary and Juan Eil.
My parents.
Who else got the best out of you?
Powerful.
Who else got the best out of you?
Brother.
Who else gets the best out of you?
Rob, who gets the best out of you?
In your life, who got the best out of you?
My father.
Okay.
Who else gets the best out of you?
In your life, friends, teachers, coaches, colleagues.
Who got the best out of you?
Co-workers, co-workers.
Who gets the best out of you?
Driven bosses.
Driven bosses.
Who else gets the best out of you?
Think about the names.
You're going to place right now on who got the best out of you.
Okay.
Now, here's the thing.
You ready for the flip side?
This guy, Trevor Mawad, who was the coach, mental coach for Russell Wilson.
He met him in 2012, Trevor Mawad.
Okay.
When he met him, he says, you're going to be great.
Your mic's on, Rob.
You're going to be great because I'm going to make you mentally great.
For 12 years, this guy and him, not 12 years, till he died, they talked every single day.
Russell Wilson said there was not a day that went by without me talking to this guy.
And he wins the Super Bowl.
This guy's mental coached 12 different first-round draft picks.
Number one picks, I think.
I think it's 12 or 14.
It's a big number.
If he can find his five key principles, he follows, five key principles he follows.
Five key principles he follows.
And he's going through all the stuff that he's developing.
Russell Wilson wins.
Russell Wilson just had his worst career, worst season of his career last year, right?
He's been on a downslope.
You know when this guy died?
2021.
What?
Yeah.
There's five things he talks about.
Number one, he talks about go neutral.
No matter what happens in your life, try to stay neutral.
Stop giving credence to feelings.
That's exactly what they are.
They come and go.
Use what you have.
Don't be like, I'm not as tall as that guy.
I'm not as good.
Use what you got.
Don't compare yourself.
Number four, focus on reducing negativity, not increasing positivity.
And number five, watch your language on how you talk to each other as a teammate.
Okay, stay on number four.
So remember how I asked you the question about who gets the best out of you?
Now watch this.
Let me flip it on you.
Let me flip it on you.
Who do you know in your life that gets the worst out of you?
People that somehow, someway got the worst out of you.
You had an idea.
It was a great idea.
They always shut down the idea.
You're like, I don't want to share ideas with this guy.
Okay.
Who got the worst out of you?
Who always compared you?
Who always said, why can't you be like Mary's husband?
Why can't you be like such and such's boyfriend?
Why can't you be like such and such a son?
Who gets the worst out of you?
Same type of people.
No, not necessarily.
It's different people.
So here's how life is.
Sometimes we think it's better to get more of the people that get the best out of us.
But what Trevor talks about, the battle is to eliminate the people that get the worst out of you.
It is more effective to eliminate the people that get worst at you than to increase the number of people that get the best out of you, yet still keep those people that get the worst out of you in your life.
What's the moral of the story here?
Hey, those people that get the best out of the people in that city built these incredible cities.
Those people that get the worst out of people destroyed these same cities.
So these same cities that started off as capitalists, conservatives, found, what is conservative, by the way?
Conservative means what?
It just means fiscally responsible, get to work, be responsible, do your part, carry your own weight, take care of your family.
Why are your kids doing this, Adam?
Take care of your kids.
Vinny, pay your bills, man.
Why don't you do this?
Why don't you do that, Patrick?
Do your thing.
Conservatives, do your part.
You're accountable.
Right.
It's accountability.
That's how great companies and great cities are built and destroyed by the rest.
Watch this article by Wall Street Journal, by the way.
If we can pull this up, these stats are going to shock you.
America pulls back from values that once defined it.
Okay.
This is a Wall Street Journal NORC poll finds.
A new Wall Street Journal poll finds that American priorities have helped define the national character for generations, such as patriotism, religion, having children, and involvement in the community are receding in importance.
Money is the only priority that has grown in importance in the past quarter century.
Younger Americans in particular place low importance on these values, many of which were central to the lives of their parents.
Only 23% of adults under the age of 30 said that having children was very important.
You got to see these numbers.
Show the charts that you have.
Take a look at this.
Look at this one here, Rini.
Percent who say that these values are very important to them.
Patriotism, 1998, 70%.
That's only 25 years ago.
Holy shit.
Today, 38%.
Religion was 62%.
39%.
Who is talking about God?
Having children was 59% double.
25 years ago, it's 30%.
People don't want to have kids today.
Community involvement went from 47 to 62 down to 27.
Money went from 31 to 41 to 43.
If you go a little lower, look at these other numbers that it has with religion.
If you keep going lower, there's a few other charts.
Okay, zoom in on this one here so we can see.
So zoom in so we can read what it says at the top as well.
Zoom out a little bit, a little bit more.
Go a little lower so you can have, there you go.
Percent who say these values are very important to them, personally shown amongst the youngest and oldest age groups.
Patriotism, 36% having children, age group.
Look at the age group.
Religion.
Hard work.
Go to the bottom now.
Hard work, the only people that believe in that is what, above 62 years old.
Okay?
Go lower.
There's another chart that they have, I believe, that talks about, you know, read the people who say these values are very important to them.
Democrats, look at patriotism.
Wow.
Independence.
Look at Republicans.
59%.
Republicans are more patriot.
By 36%.
This is Wall Street Journal talking.
Religion, Democrats, 27%.
Republicans, 2X.
Having children, 26, 20, 38.
Community involvement, 32, 23.
Democrats have the highest one with that one, community involvement.
Money.
Democrats and Republicans are tied for money.
It's the one area they agree with.
But not where we get it.
They want to be given.
We want to earn it.
And Pat, what do you, so what do you let me know?
Let me read the last one.
And then I want to get your thoughts.
For each of the following, has our society gone too far, not gone far enough?
Or is it about rights?
Shown by percentage who say too far.
Democrats, accepting people who are transgender.
Okay, look at that.
60-point spread.
Look at the spread there, Adam.
I don't know if you're looking at it.
15% Dems versus 75% Republicans.
Schools and universities taking steps to promote racial and ethnic diversity.
6% to 50%.
Look how wider the wings, how much we have divided, accepting people who are gay, lesbian, and bisexual.
7%.
31% is the people that are in the middle, reasonable ones.
Look at Democrats and independents.
What?
731.52.
Businesses taking steps to promote racial ethnicity.
729.52.
Promoting equality between men and women, 2%.
Well, you would think the Democrats were doing it.
That's weird.
No, no, it's the opposite of what you're thinking.
It's the opposite of what you're thinking.
So when you look at data like this, what do you think about, Tom, when you see this?
We're in a divided America, number one is what I think.
And number two, and I may not win any friends on this, but I got to be part of carrying the mantle because the values that made America great, that built America, still are necessary.
We need people that are unapologetically capitalists and entrepreneurs to build the jobs and the tools and industry of tomorrow.
We need that.
And along the way, we need to be, you know what?
You know, we need to be neighborly and we need to serve in our communities.
And you look at this.
Someone has to carry the mantle for the things that truly built wonderful communities and companies.
Here's my question to all of you, Tom, and you too, Pat, and Adam.
What made this shift?
That was 25 years, Pat?
Something's happening, Tom, where all those values, all the community, all the, you know, being held accountable, it's shifted.
I've been, I've.
Tom may have an opinion on this.
What do you think?
I think we've, you know, you can go back and look at just the last, look, it was 25-year spread, right?
And just look at the last 16 years of presidents and see what's happened.
We've been, I think in many ways, it's each person's responsibility for where they are and what they say and what they do.
But I think we've been led into discord.
And we've been led, you know, by our leadership and the way political campaigns come out.
And we've been led into this great divide.
Well, let's go to 98.
So who was president in 98?
Was it Clinton?
Okay.
So Clinton goes to Bush, goes to, go back to the polls again.
If you can show it, go back to the polls again.
Go back to the polls.
Okay, so check this out.
Check this out.
From 1998 to 2019 is how long?
19 years.
Yeah, 20.
2019 to 2023 is the big drop-off.
Okay, look at the drop-off here.
On which sector?
Patriotism.
If you look at patriotism, from 70 to 61, that's 19 years.
So meaning we had a drop-off after Clinton, after Bush, after Obama.
100% we had a drop-off.
Okay.
But from Trump to Biden, this is the lowest we've ever had.
Look at the patriotism on how low it is in America today.
Religion from 62 to 48, it's a big drop-off, 62 to 48 to 39.
Go to the next one, having children, 59.
That's a massive drop-off of 16 points.
So the credit for that goes to Bush and Obama, 59 to 43, now 30.
Community involvement, 47, 62 to 27.
Is this 62, 2019?
2019.
So you lock us all up inside.
You federally tell us we have to get inside and we can't work and can't help with each other and this happens.
Yep.
I'm so surprised.
Yeah.
Weird.
But the moral of the story here is these are values and principles of what others think about America.
Okay.
These are basic values and principles of what others think about America.
For me, the biggest factor, Tom, if you ask me, is the following.
I was at a church this week and it's a big church here in Fort Lauderdale.
So I was there and people pulled up and they come and they talk and we have great conversations together.
You know what the biggest thing was?
How many people would say, Patrick, you're a Christian?
I thought you were a Jew.
Really?
I said, so really?
So yeah, no, this entire time I've been following your content, I thought you were a Jew.
Well, South Florida bet David.
Yeah, I might have said that.
Oh, okay.
My pleasant last name is David.
So it's like, I thought you were Joseph.
No, I'm a Christian.
So, man, I'm so happy you're coming to a church like this, et cetera.
I said, yeah, it's great.
I said, you know, one of the biggest things right now that I can't, you know, people sit there, oh, let me tell you, this person won because of that, and that person won because I don't know why other people won.
I can tell you what I won.
At 44 years old today, I had something interesting happen to me this weekend.
Not good, tough, but something happened this weekend to me.
And it's not a big deal.
It's not something I want anybody to worry about, health or anything like that.
But it's something that it was annoying.
What happened this weekend?
And I'm sitting there talking to Jen, and we're talking, we're going back and forth, we're having a great conversation together.
And I said, you know, what this makes me realize, I can't understand people who are willing to risk life living without God.
I can't understand that life.
Because to live a life without God, you think you know it all.
I don't think I know it all.
To live with life without God, you think you can do it all on your own.
I can't do it all on my own.
To live a life without God is saying you have all the answers.
I don't have all the answers.
I need help in raising of my kids with good people around me as well because I only have a certain amount of hours with them every day.
They go to school.
To live a life today without God, man upstairs, prayer, a community you're a part of, if there's ever been a time in our lifetime, at least, you know, in the last however many years, to risk living life without God, this is by far the worst season to do that.
I agree.
Take any risk you want to take.
Do not take the risk today of living without God.
Okay.
And by the way, this isn't the debate.
We can have the debate conversation, no problem.
We can have the debate conversation of Christianity or, you know, seven-day or LDS or Jew or, you know, Muslim or, you know, Buddha.
We can have that debate, no problem.
Okay.
But I'm telling you right now, the debate you don't want to have is living life without believing there is a God and you end up being wrong and there isn't, which there is a risk.
But the risk of living life saying there's not a God and then all of a sudden there is, and you know you could have had a source to help you through some of the times that you are by yourself.
If kids know today, listen, mommy's not going to be there.
Daddy's not going to be there.
But if you're ever alone, God's there with you.
What do you think that does to a kid?
Think about a kid today that's like, nobody's there with me.
My dad's not here.
My mom's not here.
But you know what, God?
I think you're there because I was told you're there.
Whether it's true or not, what is that kid going to go through during that season?
We all go through certain seasons.
We can all look nice and polished today.
Man, think about the season that you were not polished.
How did you make it through that?
What if you did something stupid during that time?
We don't know about your story.
Many of us could have done something stupid to not be here right now.
So what this validates to me, when you look at these types of numbers, is division, is the lack of love for America.
When I talk about how great of a country America, the concepts that it was founded on, I can't tell you how many people say, I can't believe you're saying that and all this other stuff.
Man, I'm a patriot and I'm from Iran and I love what America was founded on.
What America was founded on.
I love what America was founded on.
It changed my life.
An average regular guy like me, there's nothing special about me.
Trust me.
Don't let me fool you.
There's nothing special about this guy.
Regular guy I was.
High school, junior, high school, you will never find a report card that you can say, bingo, figure this guy out.
He was very smart.
He was the captain of the football team.
Nothing.
Never played organized sports.
Never had any kind of 2.8, 3.0 GP.
I don't even know what is the class you take that's above the other stuff.
I've never taken an honors.
I've never taken any of that stuff.
You know, you talk magnet stuff like that.
We were more repellents more than magnets.
We were not the kids that you would sit there and say, these guys are going to do anything.
This guy went to the army thinking my plan was 20 years and I was going to retire six years ago.
Nobody would have known me.
I told Dylan this the other day on the importance of God.
I say, you realize if God wasn't in my life, you and I would have never met.
Wow.
I said, can you imagine if you and I never meet?
How cool is it that we know each other?
God did that.
To your son.
I told this to Dylan.
And he looks at me.
He probably was like, what?
You don't even know what that look to each other was like and a hug, man.
It's like, man, I'm so glad we met.
I can't imagine living life without ever meeting Dylan.
Man, God is so freaking good to us.
Sometimes we got to take a moment.
We got to take a moment and just be grateful and take us back to not solving for perfection, not solving for any of that stuff, solving for why this place has 40 plus million people of immigrants that chose to come here.
And our family, our parents, our grandparents didn't say, let's go to Russia.
They didn't say, let's go to Iran.
They didn't say let's go to China.
They didn't say let's go to Cuba.
They didn't say let's go to Venezuela, but they said, let's go to America.
There's a reason for that.
And we have to fight for it.
We have to sell it.
We have to explain it.
And we have to encourage others to buy into it.
My Tico yesterday finished Atlas Reich.
He finished it on Saturday in 60.
Six days.
It's a 1,069-page book.
Somebody commented on the bottom and she said, I can't believe you had the, that's torture for a kid to make him read.
I said, first of all, the kid wasn't required to read it.
He did it by himself.
But I said, I said, I said, if it's up to me, I'm going to read you exactly what I told this lady.
I said, if I have to choose between me brainwashing my kid into thinking for himself or allowing society to brainwash him to think he's a victim, I'm going to do my part.
I'm going to do my part.
So, anyways, what a podcast, man.
That article really got to me when I saw this article here.
I think everybody needs to go read that article and talk amongst your family and your friends and your peers.
Anyways, good podcast today.
Yes, Tom.
And by the way, we're all about education.
We're all about the open debate.
And we're all about edifying entrepreneurs, right?
And we've got an event that's coming that's part of Value Treatment.
That's important.
What is this?
SLS.
Oh, we got SLS coming up, sales leadership seminar.
We do this once a year.
It is going to be April, I think, 24th at the Boca Resort.
It's limited to only 250 people.
This is the one that you have to have a minimum of a million dollars of top line revenue and netting a quarter million to qualify for it.
If that's you, you can put a link below to the event to have somebody get a hold of them.
If you can do that, SLS, put that link in the description.
But you have to have a top line revenue of a million dollars, netting a quarter million, leading five salespeople.
If that's you, this would be a very good conference for you.
It's myself and it's very intense.
It's very direct.
It's not for everybody.
But if you're somebody that qualifies for this, I highly recommend you come spend these two days with us at the Boca Resort.
And then Tom has his podcast.
Adam has his podcast.
I, tomorrow, am starting my Vincent O'Shaughness show, which is like variety, comedy.
It's just, I don't even want to call it a podcast, Pat.
It's going to be something.
I'm here with a couple of our new guys that I had lunch with the other day that I'm excited about.
New stars.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be interesting.
I'm going to be using an Else People.
It's going to be great.
It's a break from the seriousness.
I love it.
Awesome.
Okay, guys.
Have a good one.
Hey, are we doing a podcast this week on Thursday, Rob?
