PBD - Patrick Bet-David - @TheAndrewSchulz | PBD Podcast

Dec. 1, 2022 - PBD - Patrick Bet-David

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@TheAndrewSchulz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 211

FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on https://minnect.com/ Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ PBD Podcast Episode 211. In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Andrew Schulz of @OfficialFlagrant and Adam Sosnick. Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. 0:00 - Start 7:03 - @TheAndrewSchulz On Disney 17:01 - @TheAndrewSchulz On Tiktok 31:47 - @TheAndrewSchulz On Gender Equality 36:55 - Reaction to Kanye West's Interview with Alex Jones 49:35 - @TheAndrewSchulz On The Matrix 1:10:58 - Reaction to Jerry Jones controversial pro-segregation picture 1:14:40 - Reaction to the potential fight between Andrew Tate and Jake Paul 1:20:37 - Why comedians have longer leashes to say what they want 1:26:53 - @TheAndrewSchulz On his special 1:44:17 - @TheAndrewSchulz On the differences between Biden and Trump 1:48:32 - Five reasons why Trump won in 2016 1:53:35 - Will Ron DeSantis beat Donald Trump in the next election?

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	Did you ever think you would make it?
	I know this life meant for me.
	Why would you pet on Joliet?
	But we got bet tape.
	Value payment, giving values contagious.
	This world of entrepreneurs, we get no value to hate it.
	I be running, homie, look what I become.
	I'm the one.
	Okay, so folks, today's guest is a special one.
	We brought him here from Wall Street, big financial analyst, hedge fund manager, expert.
	We're going to talk a lot about ETFs, credit swaps, stocks, bonds, mutual funds.
	What's that easy?
	The one and only Andrew Schultz in the house.
	Yes.
	I'm here, baby.
	How you feeling?
	Yo, thanks for having me.
	Thanks for coming out.
	For sure, for sure.
	You're funny as hell, man.
	Thank you, man.
	I'm enjoying your content.
	Very, very impressive.
	Yeah, I can literally sit there and I watch you.
	I'm like, this guy is a ridiculous communicator.
	Maybe one of the best storytellers out there, man.
	Dude, that's so funny because I was saying that about you.
	The only difference is telling stories.
	No, I mean that way.
	Like the way that you communicate is through story.
	It's like if you look at great, I don't want to compare you to politicians, but if you look at the most effective politicians, they answer every question with a story.
	And it's like biblical.
	It's like, why would I tell you what it is when I could show you?
	So you're on it.
	I appreciate that.
	So these guys know who you are.
	They're in the comedy space.
	I know you from a fan standpoint.
	Okay.
	They know you from a comedic standpoint.
	How did you get started?
	Tell your story how you got started.
	Okay, so I'm born and raised in New York.
	I surfed when I was a kid randomly.
	I was born and raised in Manhattan, but I liked surfing.
	And so I was like, all right, for college, I'm going to go to school where I could surf.
	So I went to school at UC Santa Barbara.
	Oh, wow.
	And my fifth year in college there, I was managing a restaurant that had a comedy night randomly.
	And they asked me if I wanted to try.
	And I always loved comedy, but I never was like, I'm going to go do that.
	I always thought it was a weird thing to go.
	I'm going to go on stage and talk in front of people, even though I admired it so much.
	So the fact that somebody kind of asked me, I was like, okay, maybe this is like the excuse I need.
	And I tried and I fucking loved it.
	And I came back and I just never, never looked back.
	Prior to that, nothing.
	Never, ever.
	Never wrote a joke.
	So now in school, if I'm in high school with you, 10th grade, 11th grade, who were you?
	Yeah, I was trying to make everybody laugh.
	Okay.
	I was trying to get attention for sure.
	And I was busting balls.
	And I always enjoy busting balls.
	And I love comedy.
	I mean, like, I got hustled into the into those fucking, into the tapes to the Russell Simmons Deaf Comedy Jam.
	Didn't you, Definitely?
	I was on Def Jam.
	I was on Def Jam.
	Yeah, but you did it a little bit later.
	I did it when I was a different host.
	Not Martin.
	Deion Hughie was on the house.
	Digging Jr. did it on the same show.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	But so when we were kids, he had this great, like, basically, I got my dad to sign me up and it was like a monthly thing where they gave you a new tape every single month.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And so I didn't even know it was that.
	I just thought we were getting one.
	They just kept coming in.
	My dad was like, what the fuck is this?
	So we just had this stack of just absolutely horrendous, offensive jokes that we found hilarious, but at the same time, Deaf Comedy Jam was like just taking over.
	Like when you did that, how much time do you have?
	How much time?
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	On the stage?
	Oh, they were like, dudes, 10 minutes.
	They cut it to like a five minute stage.
	It was cut to.
	Why is that?
	Is that like a model?
	Was that a structure?
	Did they put a lot of guys on?
	I think it was probably better.
	It was like, let's just take the best five.
	Take the best five.
	But a lot of these dudes didn't even have time.
	A lot of them.
	It takes time to put together like an hour of material where you could like tour.
	That's a big thing in the comedy world.
	The time you get.
	So you start with two minutes.
	You get five.
	Maybe you get 10.
	When you can get to 20 half hour, like people are, I'm working on my hour.
	I'm working on my hour.
	You know what that's like.
	Well, you need an hour to tour.
	You know, like the way that we make money is by going on the road.
	Now we have podcasts and all these other things.
	But before that, it was like, you know, you're like a stripper.
	Like, it's just, I got this weekend in Milwaukee, and I need to make that money, and they're going to pay me $1,500 or $2,000.
	And it sucks about those angels because, you know, listen, when you're not, when it ain't yours and you have no hands-on shit, like, you know, with the Netflix and all these people, over there, you do it, you leave.
	There's a room of people that are picking your shit for you.
	You're like, yo, can I edit my can I be in the room to edit?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I know what's fun.
	Y'all, you know, you're just an editor, not talking shit about editors, but that's the most vulnerable thing, man.
	And that's the trickiest thing when you're building a business.
	It's like, maybe I would say this.
	I think that's the biggest issue with Hollywood right now: the people who come up with the ideas for the movies are so far away from the execution of the movie.
	Wow.
	And if you look at the films that actually work, it's usually like writer directors.
	Yep.
	Right?
	They see the whole thing through.
	Like, even not even writer director.
	Like, you look at a guy like Tom Cruise.
	Tom Cruise is like the only actor that gets final edit.
	So that means you can't even put a scene in unless he says, okay.
	That's badass.
	That's some crazy.
	And that's why every Mission Impossible.
	Right?
	He made nine.
	How many Mission Impossible?
	I think the Mission's Possible.
	Everyone he wins.
	Mission accomplished.
	It's mission accomplished.
	But we're still watching it.
	Everyone, he got to pretend like he's not going to do it.
	We believe it every single time.
	You think it's going to happen this time?
	So Cruz's Saint status, right?
	So you would call him like a Saint status guy that he gets to do whatever he wants to do.
	Who's Saint status in your world right now?
	Comedy, who's Saint Status?
	I mean, Chappelle is one.
	Dave.
	Who else?
	Is there a Saint status in comedy?
	Joe.
	Rogan do whatever he wants.
	Dave can do whatever he wants.
	I think Bill Berger says whatever the hell he wants.
	I mean, Louis went through his ship.
	I mean, bro, I would still go and put money to see somebody like him, and I would put money to see Louis, all these guys.
	Would you put Ricky Gervais as a Ricky's up there for the whole year?
	The thing with Louis is, and Louis will say, like, you know, I think he even said it, like, they're probably not going to make a movie with him for a while.
	Yeah.
	Like, Louie's going to need to make his own hit, and then Hollywood will go, okay.
	Welcome him back.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Which is, I mean, that's business.
	That's the weird thing about it.
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, the more I, when you, when you don't have any success, everything feels like it's an organized attack.
	Right.
	And then when you start to have a little bit of success, you understand like how business works.
	It's a lot of people just trying to not lose their job.
	Yeah.
	You know, so like before I was like, oh, Hollywood's trying to put all these weird ideologies and movies and convince everybody to be this way.
	And it's not.
	It's just some guy who doesn't want to lose his job.
	So he hears your edgy joke and he's just like, I could get fired.
	My kids are in private school.
	I just bought this house I can't afford.
	All right, cut that fucking joke.
	Yeah.
	And scared money don't make money, which is why a lot of those things flop.
	But at the same time, I have empathy for people who they don't love the fucking movie.
	They love their kids and shit.
	They want their kids to go to school.
	So you're not into the whole Disney, what they're doing, you know, the woke stuff that this is.
	What they do.
	Hasn't Disney always been woke?
	I mean, my favorite Disney movie when I was a kid was about like a Middle Eastern dude.
	Which one was it?
	Which one did he talk about?
	I didn't even know what he was.
	I thought Aladdin was white.
	Some brown.
	I had no fucking shit.
	Like, yo, when we were young, it was like Mulan.
	I didn't even know there were white people in Disney.
	There was one white.
	It was like Arielle was like a fish and white.
	Yeah.
	Mermaid.
	She was white.
	And white people, the best swimmers.
	Like, that makes sense.
	Like, they're not going to be.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm not going to jeopardize that.
	Yeah.
	So it's like, I always thought it was diverse.
	I don't know why everybody's making a big deal.
	So you're saying Disney's been woke for a while.
	I would even call it woke.
	I think it's woke when you like virtue signal about it.
	Like nobody, when fucking Aladdin came out, nobody was going, oh, here they go, trying to capitulate to the Middle Eastern people, you know, like giving them an opportunity.
	I swear to God, being a kid, I didn't know that they weren't white.
	I mean, I don't think you guys did.
	Did you even did you put a two and two together?
	And I'm Middle Eastern.
	I wasn't like, yeah, those sandals are dope.
	Like, I didn't, I had no idea.
	You knew it was Middle Eastern.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But we, yeah, but yeah, it wasn't a problem until you get older and where they separate everybody by this and race and this.
	And yeah, that's why.
	So what's happened then?
	Have we become softer, more sensitive?
	Because, you know, there's a whole camp that talks about what Disney's doing, right?
	Like their last two movies flopped.
	Yeah.
	This Stranger World, whatever the movie was called, $180 million opening weekend 20, they're saying they're going to lose 100 million.
	Then the other one they did is which one is, what do you call it, with Toy Story?
	What's a name for it?
	Buzz Leiter.
	That one flopped.
	That's back-to-back flop, and the CEO gets fired.
	They lose their tax status here in Florida.
	So DeSantis goes back with them.
	Iger said a couple comments the other day about DeSantis.
	And, you know, it's a very interesting place.
	Some parents are not comfortable with Disney.
	The brands change a little bit, but they've had criticism for a while on what they've done.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think, yeah, I think it's something that you consider.
	It's absolutely something these brands are considering, right?
	You're a billion-dollar company.
	You're going to make these considerations.
	But at the same time, like they did that thing.
	I think Disney did Encanto.
	Yep.
	Was that Disney?
	That fucking crushed.
	Killed it.
	And that's like a Venezuelan story or something like that.
	I'm not exactly sure.
	So, like, I don't know.
	That's an interesting one.
	And it's weird.
	But, like, like you said, from us growing up, we used to watch what they would never make today.
	Tom and Jerry, Roadrunner, and dude, they were trying to kill each other.
	Like, you feel me?
	Like, the coyotes' whole life was trying to kill this fucking fast ass thing.
	Yeah, never acne, nothing ever worked.
	And Tom and Jerry, this cat was trying to eat this thing and was the worst cat ever.
	And the owner was a black chick because you knew it.
	Yeah.
	Top, what you doing?
	That was the most blatantly like you knew she.
	They never even showed who she was.
	She was a black chick.
	And that was just a stereotype black chick that they put in.
	I don't know.
	I'm just, I'm like, Disney, you can't fuck with the mouse, man.
	Disney is just Disney's so smart.
	Like, people think it's a competition, but it's not.
	Like, you'll spend, you got kids.
	You have four kids.
	Yeah.
	So, like, you have kids.
	No, you don't fuck boy.
	Nah, he's not.
	Oh, I'm reformed.
	I don't know if I was like you.
	I can tell.
	This guy is out in these trees, these canals, these rivers, whatever the hell.
	You can't even hide it anymore.
	God, yo, I was at a retirement community last night.
	I came on before we started recording.
	He's talking about girls we both know.
	I'm not.
	The twins.
	You know the twins.
	Come on, let me sit down, get comfortable.
	We're talking about family values here.
	Disney, Andrew Schultz.
	This is where you want to go.
	Let me weigh on the Disney subscribers.
	So let's talk about the family.
	This is when I knew it was going to be rough for Netflix when Disney got in the game.
	It's because, like, have you ever been to Disney World?
	Okay, how much money you probably spend when you go to Disney World?
	At least a thousand.
	Oh, at least a thousand.
	You got the hotel.
	Say $1,000.
	Oh, you're talking hotel and everything.
	Yes.
	Four or five thousand dollars.
	At least four or five thousand dollars.
	How much money will you spend on your Netflix subscription over your whole life?
	Oh, great question.
	That's a good question.
	Probably less than that.
	A thousand, maybe.
	Yeah.
	And you got six different people using the same one.
	Like, so there's no way Netflix is going to be able to compete long term with a brand like Disney unless they start doing these like live experiences of things.
	And they have tried.
	They're doing like stranger things live.
	You got to get people outside.
	There has to be other streams of revenue.
	Like Disney's in everything.
	So even if they're not making money off the movies, they got money coming in from Disney World Paris and they got the merch lines.
	It's like, it's so hard to compete with them because they can lose four different one.
	Not yet.
	Trying.
	It's it's a so you're gonna want to raise your kids a certain way, and you're you're not gonna want anybody to have influence over your kids that you don't want them to have influence up until a certain point, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, I got, I gotta tell you at some point, you're gonna be like, I'm okay if he's gonna hang out with this uncle, but I gotta tell you something.
	I was messaging my wife, and I was because I was, you know, I like to listen to your guys' stuff before I come out and talk to just like anybody.
	And I was listening to something you were talking about, like living close to you created your life around where you live.
	Yeah, you're like, Yeah, I bought this building, it's a mile away, and the school is a 0.2 miles and everything, like then everything's close.
	And I messaged my wife, and she doesn't know that I'm like, listen to this shit.
	And I'm like, oh, that's fire.
	I'm about to drop it on it.
	I'm about to drop that shit on.
	And I'm looking for the butt in the message.
	Like, I go, I go, I want the studio to be close to where we live.
	Everything needs to be close.
	Restaurants close.
	Everything needs to be close.
	Right?
	She starts to kind of like argue.
	Like, if you build your studio, then it might be a little like, listen, if you want to maximize your life with your partner and your children, you have to keep all that close.
	Okay.
	Hours traveling is wasted time with family.
	Yeah.
	She goes, yes, close neighborhood, but you know, in LA, everything isn't close.
	I go, school, work, home, social life, close.
	As close as I can, an hour each way is two hours away from my kid.
	Do you know how you can change a kid's life with two hours a day?
	What's the reaction to that?
	She goes, she goes, she goes, Andrew, I agree.
	I go, honestly, I'm just listening to a podcast.
	Shout out to BVD.
	Just kidding.
	It was fire.
	I was like, move me anywhere.
	That's so fucking.
	Well, I mean, the difference is the last 20 years, I'm traveling six months out of the year.
	So finally, it's like, I want to get everything to be close, you know, close to each other.
	Yeah.
	But when you got kids, the only thing you're going to be like, you know, like, listen, don't talk to that guy.
	Be careful with this because they're still like can make up their minds.
	They're still a little bit more, you know, flexible on ideas.
	And then eventually you're like, listen, you got to do whatever you got to do.
	I don't have control over you anymore.
	Just like us.
	At one point, no matter what mom, dad said, we have to go screw up.
	We have to make our own mistakes.
	And then you're hoping you've teached your kid enough to process issues independently.
	And then they're off to the races.
	Yeah.
	If they're turned on by some Disney cartoon or this movie or that movie, that's up to them.
	But till then, that's the part where some people are uncomfortable with Disney right now.
	Yeah.
	You feel like as a parent, a little bit uncomfortable with it.
	I feel it's my job to raise them until a point that they can decide for themselves.
	Up until that point.
	I talked to Rogan about this a little bit because, you know, I'll let him know.
	I'd be like, man, the shitty thing, the annoying thing about getting money is there's less to complain about.
	Like when I didn't have money, I was like affected by every issue.
	I was like, oh, we got to talk, we got to fix this and change.
	And then I got some money and I was like, man, like the Amand Geary is a great place to hang out for a weekend.
	Like, do I really want to read this whole article about abortion or do I want to go to Utah and look at mountains?
	That's way better, you know?
	And then Rogan was like, when you have kids, it just brings you right back in.
	I go, why?
	He goes, he goes, because now everything is affecting the way they see the world.
	And your kid is going to say something to you and it's going to fucking rile you up.
	I got a friend of mine who lives up in Toronto and his kid, he got two kids and he, and he was giving cookies.
	He gave two cookies to his baby girl and then one cookie to his son.
	And his son goes, his son goes, he goes, he goes, hey, I want two cookies.
	And he goes, why?
	He goes, because fair and equal.
	He goes, what did you just say?
	He goes, because life is fair and equal.
	And he literally called his wife.
	He goes, we're moving back to America.
	You go.
	There you go.
	Listen.
	It's hilarious.
	Whatever you give a lot of time to, you're going to be more protective of.
	You know, it's like, that's, you know, like comedy.
	What do you guys very much, what's a sensitive side of your world in comedy?
	Somebody uses your joke.
	Somebody stealing it.
	Somebody steals your joke.
	Like, you know, in your world, I'll be right back.
	Like, I had Carlos Mancia exactly.
	What, three years ago?
	I don't know what it was.
	Four years ago, three years ago?
	He stole Pat's wallet.
	He stole Pat's wallet.
	He just takes it.
	So we were having a conversation and, you know, it's like, well, do you realize what he did and what the jokes and all that?
	So in your world, that's because that's personal.
	That's yours.
	How dare you take my joke that I came up with?
	Imagine your joke, but now it's your kid, your body, the sacrifice, the hours, the diapers.
	You're going to be like, no, bro, you ain't messing with this one.
	Because I put 50,000 hours into this.
	You're going to put six hours a day.
	You think you're going to persuade this kid?
	No, no, we're not doing this.
	Intellectual property.
	I mean, I change a school over a simple thing like this.
	That's why you don't like China so much because you see what they're doing with the intellectual property.
	But what he said about TikTok was freaking unbullying.
	I leave that shit up, too.
	It's crazy I was right.
	Isn't that crazy?
	I was right.
	What did you say about that?
	Isn't that crazy I was right though?
	That's crazy I was right.
	Tell the story.
	I was just like, hey, it just made sense to me in the moment.
	Like, I was like, man, if I had a social media company, this is what I'm sure America does.
	It's like, we got Facebook, Instagram, so we could feed the algorithm in these other countries anything we want.
	And I assume what we do, we were doing it with movie and TV shows for years.
	It's like, we're sending out all our cool shit.
	And then everybody in other countries is like, I want to be a cowboy.
	I want to be a cool guy.
	I want to do this stuff.
	It literally ended the Cold War.
	Blue jeans and Rocky.
	Is that what it was?
	Literally.
	Oh, I thought they ran out of money.
	No, that's part of it.
	Because they were spending it all on blue jeans, bro.
	Exactly.
	Boom.
	Not the space race.
	No, it was Levi's.
	But no, that culture.
	Culture.
	I mean, every part of that.
	Well, if China controls the algorithm.
	I want to hear it.
	But yeah, basically, like, yo, if China controls the algorithm and they're showing different shit to the kids out there than they are here, they could get us into this dumb shit.
	Everybody's twerking, making stupid videos.
	Where in China, they're doing fucking math problems and engineering.
	Oh, I saw that.
	But it's so fucking true.
	So I put that shit out there and I reposted it and I was like, man, I was almost with this one.
	But that's what happens with jokes.
	Like, sometimes things make sense in your head.
	And you're like, let me just throw it out there and see.
	And then people in the State Department put it that way, got back to me and they were like, yeah, that's kind of what it means.
	Oh, shit.
	So you're now on the inside with State Department.
	No, no, they're not talking to me directly.
	Oh, okay.
	You're getting sane status.
	I don't want to be involved.
	But you nailed it because like all the, and think about the American kids here are doing.
	They're doing the fucking Tide Pod challenge, you know, light myself on fire.
	And they're like, what the fuck are you doing, bro?
	And kids are doing it.
	Over there, you can't do shit.
	They're not watching shit.
	It's just math and science.
	That's all you're watching.
	Our TikToks are fire, though.
	It is pretty dope.
	Watching a kid light themselves on fire.
	That's fun, bro.
	I love that.
	If you really want to think about that, who did that first?
	Wasn't that like Tibet or some shit?
	That was a Tibetan guy.
	The monks.
	The monks.
	That was a fat.
	Viral TikTok.
	That was him.
	That shit was fun.
	That was like, man, somebody tape this shit.
	PVD.
	You've got strong opinions on what we should do with TikTok at this point.
	You did a whole case study about you're doing videos on Instagram that get literally millions of views.
	Get rid of it.
	And on TikTok, you're getting like five views.
	It's like clearly something's up.
	This is what's going to happen.
	I mean, TikTok's got a lifespan.
	They're not going to be around forever.
	TikTok's got a lifespan.
	You got a year, two years, one Republican president away from TikTok being banned in America.
	And you're going to be the next vine.
	And some people who are not ready for it, they're not going to be adjusting.
	It's already done.
	Yeah.
	You think so?
	Yeah.
	YouTube shorts.
	That's a beautiful thing about like about this is going to sound fucked up, but kind of like when like government and social media companies are in bed with each other.
	I mean, you know the game probably better than anybody, but I would assume once your company gets big enough, the government goes, hey, now we work together.
	And then you go, okay.
	It's kind of like a mafia thing.
	Yeah, you're going to not work because it's not like an insulting thing, but it's like you've reached escape velocity and now we work together.
	And so with YouTube Shorts, it's the exact same thing as TikTok, if you look at it.
	Only it has way more data and way more American data.
	You're talking about YouTube, which is Google, right?
	These are the numbered one in two search engines in the world.
	There's no way that you would prefer to be on TikTok than you would be on YouTube.
	Well, brother, think about it.
	In America, you know, what's the Chinese TV station that we all watch?
	MTV.
	The point is that today there's no Chinese media here.
	It's because we don't want our kids or our civilization being indoctrinated by CCP thoughts.
	Yeah.
	But they averted that through social media, through TikTok.
	So at some point, who owns TikTok Bike Dance?
	Who's owned by the CCP?
	At some point, and this is one of the things Trump got credit for.
	We need to re-look into this.
	I'm shocked that we're not moving more into it now.
	Bro, we don't need it.
	But do you guys hear?
	I think it was yesterday.
	The South Dakota governor Christy Noam.
	She banned it from every agency, state agency.
	None of y'all could use TikTok at all.
	It's all off their phones and all of that.
	I'm talking about what the government is.
	So the South Dakota governor Noam, she spoke.
	I think she's pretty, isn't she?
	She said it's off our networks.
	It's blocked off of our servers.
	Any state employee, anybody who contributes with the state of South Dakota shit on you.
	Period.
	Good for her.
	And I respect her.
	Andrew, you know what?
	She's got some heavies.
	She got the heavies.
	She got the heavies.
	You know, the twins started the heavies, right?
	Did they really?
	That is, it comes from them.
	Stop it.
	Sword of God in my life.
	Because they do.
	They absolutely do.
	Yeah, this is the loser.
	Andrew?
	I want to play.
	Heavies are what we call, you know, also our good friends.
	Lower back problems.
	Also, our good friends.
	Sat Yummy.
	Yummy Park.
	Oh, yeah, Have you interviewed her?
	I'm trying to get her.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	What do you mean?
	You're trying to get her.
	You haven't?
	I've been messaging her a little bit, but she doesn't know that I always talk about how huge her tits are for me to rat.
	I think that's going to be the differentiator.
	She's going to come on the podcast.
	She's a total sweetheart.
	But she doesn't know.
	And she's very sweet.
	She lives in my neighborhood.
	You know how small she is?
	What?
	Tiny.
	You know how tiny she is.
	Not all of her.
	She's maybe 85, 90 pounds.
	Really?
	First of all, first time we go out to lunch and Adam.
	Have you been out to lunch with her?
	Yeah.
	So we go out to lunch.
	Isn't there a restaurant where they serve rat in America?
	She's so official.
	That's crazy.
	Like, you know an actual rat.
	Yard out.
	We had a rat burger, though.
	She came and just got Jason with the picture.
	By the way, it's so funny.
	So we're sitting there.
	Shout out to Yummy, man.
	She meets Adam for the first time.
	This is Adam's first time what she says to him.
	No, no, no.
	The second time, because we spent the whole day together.
	We were filming concerts together.
	That's right.
	And what does she say to you?
	She goes, hey, you gay.
	You gay, right?
	I said, what?
	By the way, we're in front of everybody.
	She's like, Adam, you're just so nice.
	You look so good.
	You're gay, right?
	I said, yummy, say that one more time.
	You gay.
	I said, no, I will take your little 85 pounds.
	I'm going to show you what gay looks like, right?
	Yummy.
	But she's an absolute sweetheart.
	Oh, God.
	Her story's a crazy story.
	Yeah.
	The fact that we're talking about her, real talk, the fact that we even know her name when we're talking about her escaped.
	Guys, look, but with the Northwest, don't delete it.
	Look, go back to what you had there.
	That's what Rob had.
	Joey Park's plastic surgeon.
	She got breast implants.
	Oh, my goodness.
	No, I genuinely believe that we have changed Google by talking about this so much.
	Her and Nancy Pelosi.
	Like now, now Nancy, if you just type in Nancy Pelosi, see what else comes up.
	Bro, where'd you see the pictures of her?
	You were the first person to recognize.
	She's been a politician for 50 years.
	I have her picture on my dad.
	He shows up.
	Like heavy, unbelievable set of tips on that ridiculous bro.
	Yeah yeah yeah, she's 82, get out of here.
	Is she really 82?
	Look at her bro, look at them.
	Things bro, no frying.
	When she was 21 she must have been just a killer, crazy killer.
	Have you seen her at 21 or something meeting Jonathan?
	Oh yeah, I know that you've seen that.
	Can you find that robot?
	Find Pelosi with Jon F Kennedy yeah, and then see what she looks like, see what she was right there, zoom in what yupre, bang it yeah, and look at the smile on his face.
	Damn right, how would a Nancy Pelosi end up meeting Jfk in 1960?
	This all makes sense.
	I can't imagine.
	I can't imagine.
	I have no clue how to connect them at carbon on a price.
	It's a hard find here in Miami 100.
	How many girls have you said I can get you a table at Carbone eight o'clock rest or the ten o'clock rest, 10 o'clock rest.
	Forget it.
	I'll never forget what me Adam, the first time i'm chilling with Adam.
	We walk into a, to a place where Miami or one of these spots, and mind you Andrew, i'm like i'm new here, i'm just, i'm from the East Coast, i'm just like trying to come in and as right, we walk in, i'm trying to like we got ideas and i'm trying to and i'm like, so Adam, who are we gonna?
	Adam's already in a group of girls like yeah, so that's vinyl, and he usually, this guy doesn't waste carbon anytime.
	He already sold the resume to me and she's like oh, it's a comedian from now.
	I'm like god damn, he doesn't waste any time.
	Okay, I got a question, do you have daughters?
	I do.
	Okay I, because I was living here for four months, I was concerned about raising daughters here.
	It depends on where you're raising them.
	You're not raising them in a club bro no, but still, it's like you get caught up in things like.
	I lived here for four months right, and I almost got caught up a little bit.
	I was like oh, I want a fucking I want a car.
	I think I want a.
	I want an old car, like I want a stupid old car, like a 64 Thunderbird or something.
	I wanted a speedster okay, and uh, a 1957 poor speedster.
	And I got.
	I ended up getting a fake one because I wasn't gonna spend half a million dollars for a fucking car.
	That's a sick car, it's a fucking beautiful.
	I got a fake one.
	Yeah, what color?
	Uh, the one I got was it's uh, like a British racing green with a fancy now I know to do British racing green Durman Car, it's a little whatever, but it's fake anyway.
	So I don't know.
	Yeah, but no one knows the difference.
	By the way, just so you know that it's the same.
	No one knows the difference yeah, so what does this have to do with Miami?
	My point is, like i'm you, I grew up in New York.
	I didn't get a license till I was 20 years old, like I didn't give a about these things.
	I'm almost being influenced.
	So if you're a young girl here, my goal in life is that my daughter doesn't a guy drive an orange car right like number one.
	If there's no orange car, if an orange car pulls up to my lot and I know my daughter's sucking a guy's dick in an orange car, this is like heartbreaking for me and I failed as a.
	I think you have to be more worried about your daughter watching Disney than living in Miami.
	Hold on, are they making movies about orange cars?
	Is that what you're saying is?
	It's not a magic carpet anymore, it's a fucking orange Lamborghini.
	Is that what it is, where do you live right now?
	It was just like it was so tacky and i'm like there's no way that you like this thing.
	What's going on?
	It's just, look at me, look at me.
	Nobody even knows what the is going on under the hood.
	There's no appreciation, appreciation of it all.
	It's like I completely care about consumption and that's it, the value it brings me.
	And I got a little scared and I was like, would my, could I instill enough values in my daughter?
	Could my wife instill enough values in in in our daughter that she would look for a guy that uh, treated her kindly and loved her and cared about her and wouldn't, wouldn't be influenced maybe, by her friends who are like no, let's.
	Just go to the clubs blah blah, blah.
	Do you have a daughter?
	No, you know hypothetical daughter that you don't have.
	You don't want to get married for a reason.
	Yeah, you got to plan a little bit 100 gotcha, you know.
	So what was your experience like in Miami?
	I loved four months.
	I loved it.
	I loved it.
	You loved it so much.
	Where do you live now?
	In New York.
	You live in New York.
	Are you thinking about moving here or no?
	No, no.
	I really liked it.
	And I was trying to do, I was like, can I do like six months, six months, seven months, six months?
	Like, Miami embraced us in a way that was, it was unbelievable.
	Like, Miami is one of these really cool places.
	And I'll give them this.
	And I think it's like, Miami's like Latin America's version of America.
	You know how like Hawaii is like Asia's version of America?
	Like you go there, you're like, this is America.
	But is it like that is what Miami was.
	And with that comes this like incredible, like welcomingness, right?
	Where in New York, everybody's trying to act like they're not impressed.
	You know, and in LA, people are just so absorbed with whatever's hot.
	It doesn't matter if it's like quality or not.
	It's just like, this is a hot thing.
	But here, it was like, oh, you moved down here.
	Dude, you got to come by the restaurant or dude, you got to come by the office.
	Like everybody was so inviting about, like even getting a coffee.
	Oh, this one's on us.
	And I was like, wow, this is like a beautiful place.
	I want that.
	I want my kids to feel that.
	So I was very close.
	I was very close.
	Are you at a phase of your, because right now you can live anywhere.
	You're going to do specials on Do Well, right?
	You don't have to be in New York.
	Or do you see it as a courier thing?
	It still makes sense to stay in New York and not move to another place.
	For stand-up, New York provides a couple of things.
	It's like, one, I can get on stage more and probably better quality stage time.
	Quality stage time means not like the people here are quality, but there's like five or six clubs that can do four or five shows a night instead of maybe in a city like Miami.
	There might be like one show a night that's like really good.
	Got it.
	And the other one's your.
	It's not even close, to be honest with you.
	As someone that does stand up in Miami, like New York is like head and shoulders above any city in the country.
	And LA might be just a little bit less.
	I mean, New York is the mecca, but like in LA, I could have done factory store and an improv.
	Ha ha ha.
	You just went, boom, Austin caught up to LA or who's third?
	Is Austin third?
	If it's New York, LA, who's third?
	Chicago.
	I mean, I would probably do Austin before Chicago.
	Yeah.
	I mean, just because, you know, Rogan has just so much energy around him.
	And so far, he's picked like a few things to do in his life and then been the best at all of them.
	So it's like, I think he'll figure out like a thing of figure out comedy out there.
	Who's not going to go flock to where he's at?
	War.
	I mean, if you're smart, you got to do that.
	100%.
	Especially if you're coming up.
	Not established.
	Exactly.
	So like, and the other thing for me with the podcast is I like having guests.
	And, you know, it's harder.
	I'm sure you guys go through this.
	Like, if you're willing to travel, maybe you can make that happen.
	But, you know, I want to have these guests.
	And when you're in a New Yorker, you're in an LA, these people end up kind of blending in.
	They're there and it becomes more convenient.
	So I like building that.
	And also just, I was too happy down here, to be honest with you.
	I know that sounds like a joke, but it was like genuine.
	Like, I didn't think of a single joke for four months.
	Because you kind of want to be in a state of miserableness, complaining and curmudging.
	Ah, this mother.
	Comedy's complaining.
	Yes.
	And you do it in a funny way.
	So people tolerate it.
	But like in like Miami, it was just everybody there, the vibe in perspective.
	Life is good, man.
	Life is really good.
	Literally, it's like, what are you pushing back against?
	It's okay, brother.
	It's okay.
	I found myself writing Joe's jokes about like the driving being bad.
	And I was like, I need to go back to New York.
	My arms tired.
	I'm like, what is going on?
	You're like, honey, we're getting the fuck out of here right now.
	I'm leaving right now.
	Literally, that was why, because down there was like everybody was like, spend time with your family, enjoy, have, and party.
	And I was like, I'm not pushing back against any of this.
	I want to party.
	The lifestyle is so much better in Miami.
	But if you're still in grind mode, dude, you got to be in New York for that phase.
	I like pushing back against outrage, especially if you're not going to be able to do that.
	So how about we do this unjustly?
	If I have your permission, guys, why don't we complain a little bit?
	Let's do it.
	I'm serious.
	Honestly, we're having a little too much fun.
	Rob, I want you to pull out what I just texted.
	You put it up.
	None of you guys know I'm putting up the story.
	I want to see what you're going to say about it.
	Tell me if there's logic in this, if it makes sense.
	Oh, this is good.
	Pull this one up.
	I don't know if you guys have seen it or not.
	This story just came out, okay?
	So, U.S. women's soccer team will pocket at least $6.5 million from the men's team reaching the World Cup knockout rounds, more than they received for winning two successive World Cups.
	So, did you guys understand the story?
	So, they get $13 million.
	I'll read a U.S. Women's National Cup.
	So, right there.
	The men's national team is now guaranteed a prize of $13 million after its 1-0 win.
	They're going to go into the final 16, meaning the U.S. women's national team will take a cut of $6.5 million.
	If the men win their match against the Netherlands on Saturday to reach the quarterfinals, they'll be taking home a minimum of $17 million.
	What do you think about this concept of whatever men do, we have to pay half of it to women?
	I mean, Andres.
	Fair and equal.
	That's what it is.
	Yeah.
	That kid, he's right.
	Yeah, no, it's, I mean, it's ridiculous.
	You know, I got to look more into it.
	I did a whole piece on the U.S. women's national team when they were complaining about getting the deal that they wanted, which a lot of people don't know is they bought, they asked for their original deal.
	They were the ones to petition for it, and then they didn't want to have it afterwards.
	So we did a whole piece of that during the pandemic.
	But yeah, it seems absolutely ridiculous.
	You know, I think it's just seems a bit.
	I mean, I don't know, get paid what you generate, you know, eat what you kill.
	Seems like the most reasonable situation.
	Adam, what do you think about this?
	Well, I'm going to bring up one of Andrew Schultz's jokes here.
	I'm not going to do a copyright thing.
	This is yours.
	I'm saying that up front.
	But in your special infamous, you address these types of issues, feminism.
	You were like, that was the part in the crowd where you were like, I think we're on the same page here, guys.
	Well, you know, like, I went to one of these feminist marches.
	They're screaming, free in the nipple.
	You're like, sounds good to me.
	Right?
	All right.
	You know, I think we should give abortion.
	It's like, yeah, that'd be good.
	Okay, right.
	Like, you were like, we need to pay for our half.
	Fucking do it.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And you're just like, are you guys feminists or fuckboys?
	Right.
	That's that whole joke right there.
	Yeah.
	How feminists are becoming the men that they hated.
	That they hate.
	Exactly.
	And it was such an amazing perspective and the way that you kind of heat it up with the audience.
	Yeah.
	That's essentially this right here.
	Yeah.
	This is redistribution of wealth, though, right?
	And this is something you're not actually a fan of, I assume, right?
	You know why?
	Because, okay, so we talked to our expert Malik, and I said, who gets paid?
	Who gets paid on the women's side?
	Who makes the most money?
	And Malik out of nowhere says, well, women make more money in porn and modeling.
	Yeah.
	100%.
	Malik, you watch a little too much porn, Malik.
	I hope you're in the back watching, paying attention, not watching other clips on your phone.
	You're not watching, if you know what I mean.
	He's busy.
	He's not watching.
	Check the check.
	You're looking at it.
	I was about to say.
	No, no, no.
	That's raw.
	It's like, who named him is Malik?
	Holy shit.
	Fucking white Malik.
	His dad's from the Caribbean.
	That's how you got to name yourself so they don't think you stormed the Capitol.
	They're like, no, I wasn't there.
	I'm Malik.
	My name's Malik.
	I'm not John Johnson.
	I'm Malik.
	Like, all right, I am Malik.
	Yep, yep, yep, definitely not me.
	Oh, that's so freaking true.
	So if you say that, so women, female models, they're making a lot more money than that.
	What are we going to do?
	Let's take it and split it.
	It just doesn't make any sense.
	Yeah, why do so many women go to college, man?
	That's unfair.
	64% to 36%.
	We got to stop women from learning, bro.
	It's a good point.
	According to that, we should stop at least 14% of these women going out there and learning.
	Or I guess maybe the population is like 55, 45.
	But still, it's absurd.
	You sound very red-pilled right now.
	Dude, I'm so red-pilled.
	Manosphere, dude.
	Dude, man.
	But you've been so.
	So manosphere, dude.
	You've dealt in that world, though.
	You've interviewed a bunch of these guys, no?
	I know.
	It's like, why are you guys so afraid of women, man?
	It's like, they're great.
	They love you.
	It's okay.
	You don't have to be afraid of them.
	Like, you don't have to like dunk on them all the time.
	There's a lot of great women that are out there.
	I think I need to see more like married red pill dudes.
	You know what I mean?
	Because there's like, it's very rare that I see like guys in happy marriages just dunking on women all the time.
	That's what I say.
	Like, I'm not taking advice from single dudes on how to be with women.
	Straight up, huh?
	I mean, like, if it's how to get some pussy, sure, tell me.
	But if it's how to like build a life and have children, like, yeah, if you're trying to get what you're going to tell me about getting married, you know what I'm saying?
	Tell you not to get married, or they would tell you that marriage is a bad deal for men.
	Or if you're going to do get married, you're going to need a prenup.
	I assume you had this conversation with what, Fresh and Fit and these guys?
	Yeah, yeah, we had we had it with them.
	I just, I don't know.
	I feel like they operate from a place of fear, man.
	And I don't think that that's healthy.
	I don't want to teach men to be afraid.
	I think it's more risk assessment than anything.
	Like, we're in the insurance business.
	Life is risk, man.
	That's true.
	Every time you walk out the dough, it's risk.
	You go for it.
	You try to build something.
	If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
	Except if you're Adam.
	You stay single and you pay for it.
	And you can get married, bro.
	All right.
	I'm willing to accommodate that.
	Does she have to be Jewish?
	No.
	Oh, really?
	I haven't dated a Jewish girl in 10 years.
	Oh, shit.
	That's the problem.
	Well, because Kanye's telling me, stay away from the Jews.
	I'm like, dude, I'm fine.
	I don't think he's done.
	By the way, did you see what Kanye just did?
	I mean, this is a wild guy.
	It's rare that you're on a podcast with Alex Jones and Alex is the normal one.
	Alex is like, what's going on?
	Jesus, what is happening?
	Go to commercial.
	Go to commercial.
	When Alex Jones is distancing himself from you, you got some problems.
	And when he's like, I'm just like, no, Kanye, we don't fuck with Nazis, right?
	He's giving them the apples.
	I love Hitler, bro.
	Jesus Christ.
	Are you this when Alex Jones is deferring to extremists?
	Oh, God.
	And he's just like, if you get the calm down from him, it's all unbelievable.
	Let me just read it.
	Let me read it because this just happened.
	So Kanye West tells Alex Jones, I like Hitler.
	This is what he says.
	Yee's appearance on far-right conspiracy theory outlet, InfoWars, turned into a chance to preach anti-Semitic hatred.
	Now, keep in mind, this is a Daily Beast story.
	As the star formerly known as Kanye West, praised Adolf Hitler within the first 30 minutes of the broadcast, Yi, whose face was entirely hidden behind a black mask.
	If you can show that Malik, Malik in the back, not Malik here, began praising Malik.
	He's like Philadelphia.
	That's what he's doing.
	So here's what happened.
	He says, you're not Hitler, Jones said.
	You're not a Nazi.
	Well, I see good things about Hitler.
	This is what he said.
	Later adding, every human being has value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler.
	Now, this is what Kanye just said.
	And then he gave highways.
	He gave credit to highways to Hitler for some reason.
	Yeah, he didn't make highways.
	I don't think Hitler made highways.
	No, I don't think so.
	He's trying to say that everyone has something good about him.
	Well, no, Hitler was known for being very much a, if you read.
	I thought you were going to be he could make a highway.
	No, but he was a guy that liked buildings.
	If you read the book, Mein Komb, for some of his material, he was a guy that liked buildings.
	So if he says that, I'm not sure if you build roads or not, but that was his area of interest.
	But like, okay, I'm not singing up for Kanye at all, but it's like going off age.
	Like, what if, like, in all this craziness, you're like, dude, he bowled a 235 consistent.
	He was a fucking good.
	Like, yes, he did what he did, but did you ever see the guy bowl?
	Like, he had some good.
	You can't say he didn't have anything.
	But it's one of those things where it's like, do you need to say it?
	Exactly that.
	Like, shut the fuck.
	Okay, he can bowl.
	We don't need to hear about it, bro.
	Like, like, Bill Cosby made a mean cup of coffee.
	But guess what?
	He put shit in it.
	You know, so it's like, I don't know.
	Yeah, I think that he's trying to be, you know, inflammatory.
	The thing about Kanye is that, like, none of these ideas are his own.
	Like Kanye's, Kanye is just finding out that he's not as good a producer of intellectual thought as he is of music.
	I agree.
	And he just, what he's always done is just sampled things.
	And that's what a great producer will do.
	He'll be like, ooh, that sound is really great.
	That sound is really great.
	And when I blend them together, I can make some of the greatest music ever.
	But now he's doing that with rhetoric.
	And he's just trying to get attention, which is what he did, obviously, with music.
	And it's just not, he's not good enough at it.
	He's not good enough at making these things cool.
	He can make music cool.
	He can take music you would think you would never listen to and put it together and you go, holy shit, this is a masterpiece.
	He's not good enough at talking to make the things that he says cool and fun.
	Now, he can be hilarious.
	It's undeniable.
	Even when he's saying the most fucked up things, you're like, holy shit, is he really, did he bring out a Yahoo for Netanyahu?
	Did you see that?
	He brought out a net and a Yahoo because he's talking about Benjamin Netanyahu.
	That is fucking the same interview.
	Without what?
	You got to be kidding me.
	Talking about the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He goes, I got to talk to my buddy Benjamin Netanyahu.
	He goes, Netan?
	Oh, my God, dude.
	You laughed.
	That's okay.
	That is hilarious, bro.
	That is hilarious.
	So let me ask you, how much of this, like on Twitter, I posted the story and the guy responds back and he says something, which, you know, on what, responding to what Matt Walsh said.
	I don't know if you guys saw what Matt Walsh said.
	Yeah, Matt Walsh responded and he said, I want to read this to you.
	If you can go to, shit, I don't know if he can pull this up or not, but I do, if I could find it.
	So he says, well, what's the difference between what Kanye is doing?
	Is that it?
	Zoom in a little bit.
	Yeah, if I was an optimistic man, I would at least hope that Kanye West, his mental breakdown and self-immolation would persuade conservatives to stop falling madly in love with every celebrity who says one thing they agree with.
	But I'm not an optimistic man.
	Kanye is a former zoom in artistic genius who's been unraveling for years now, pushed and prodded along by people who pretend to be in his corner.
	It's sad to watch.
	The whole thing is just sad.
	Okay.
	So a guy said, well, what's wrong with what he did when he says, I'll love all people?
	One guy says, Jesus loved all people, Matt.
	What do you say about what he's doing?
	Okay, so they're going back and forth, right?
	How much of what he's doing, one guy said it's pure self-sabotage.
	He's not even aware that this is taking place.
	Is he, does he know what he's doing?
	Does he not know what he's doing where he's self-sabotaging?
	Is he self-aware?
	Is there like an outcome?
	This is going to be my campaign because Trump went out there and said a few things and then it worked for him.
	This is how I'm going to get all this people behind me.
	What do you think he's doing?
	Does he know or does he not know what he's doing?
	I think that he's addicted to attention.
	I think he's hurt probably.
	Like, you know, you're famous for long enough.
	You've been taking advantage enough in your life because people find ways to extract money from you.
	Right.
	So I think it's very easy to be hurt and feel restricted.
	And he's probably a guy who wants complete freedom, but he's not willing to put up the money for it.
	So like when you look at like, you know, Kanye's history, he put up money to try to create a fashion brand and he lost like, I don't know, $25 million or some shit like that.
	So now apparently he's very averse to ever putting money up.
	So he's like, I got these ideas.
	I got these ideas, but he's not willing to put the money up.
	So with the Adidas thing, it's like, you don't have to do it with Adidas.
	Make your own shit.
	Yeah.
	Oh, but you don't want to put the money up.
	Exactly.
	So once you sign the deal for someone else's money, they're going to have a say.
	And that's just what it is.
	I think it's a gift to give the guy to call him crazy.
	Like we only call people crazy that we love, right?
	Like you, people love Kanye, so they're willing to go, he's just crazy.
	There's no such mental illness as like, I hate Jews now.
	You know what I mean?
	Like it's not like, it's not like you get depressed and you're like, oh, I really hate the Jews.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's like you are choosing to take that anguish or despair you're going through and like funnel it into a lens, but it's still a choice to do it.
	And I don't know if we would accept the same thing.
	I don't know if somebody was like hating Asians or hating black people if we would go, I think he's having a little bout of mental illness.
	I don't know if we'd give that up to them.
	I think there's two things going on here with him.
	Clearly, he's not willing.
	This is number one.
	Clearly, he's not willing to seek counsel or listen to somebody.
	I'm sure there's people telling him, Kanye, bro, I've been your friend for X amount of years.
	I've been a business partner of yours.
	I'm a fellow rapper of yours.
	I'm a political figure.
	Brother, you got to stop.
	And he's just like, don't tell me what to do, dog.
	You can't tell me what to do.
	Like, there's that.
	100%.
	And everybody in his corner is making money off him.
	And that's the trickiest thing is like when everybody around you making money off you, they're not going to be honest.
	You're oblivious.
	You got blind spots.
	But now he's losing all this money.
	Number two, if I may, the whole Jewish thing.
	Clearly, he was burned by some Jewish business partners.
	Okay, let's just back up a second.
	He was worth, as of like a month ago, a couple billion dollars.
	They did all right, family.
	They were doing okay for you, Kanye.
	But what's transpired in the last few months?
	Yeah.
	Okay, number one.
	So these Jewish business partners, record executives, maybe took a little off the top.
	He still was worth a billion.
	Took a little bit of time.
	But then go deeper.
	Then go deeper.
	So these Jewish record executives, go deeper.
	He's getting a divorce from Kim.
	Sure, Kim's lawyer was Jewish.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	So another Jews fuck with me.
	And who's Kim fucking after that?
	Pete Davidson.
	I guess he's kind of Jewish, right?
	And you see what he did now?
	Allegedly, you can Google this.
	He is now converting to Judaism to troll Kanye.
	That's hilarious.
	This is what's happening right now.
	That's funny.
	Shout out, Pete.
	That is fucking hilarious.
	That is really funny.
	Pete Davidson converts to Judaism and late as Kanye troll.
	I don't know what he went through, but like.
	Is that where you see that picture?
	Is that from him?
	That's so here's that real?
	Here's the point.
	He's not willing to listen when even people he trusts are like, dude, just whatever it is.
	I won't tell him what to do.
	And then he's just doubled, tripling, quadrupling down to the Jewish thing.
	And then like the business, Kim's lawyer, now he has to pay her 200 grand a month.
	Okay.
	And that's based on what he made for the last five years, let's say.
	Not what he's worth now.
	That's how that works.
	And then just to add insult to injury, the skinny tatted up dude that's been fucking your bit, your wife is now converting to Judaism.
	So he's just got so much hate in his heart right now.
	And we talked about what?
	Power versus force.
	Would you please just explain that?
	And we can even pull it up right there.
	Power versus force.
	So this is a powerful book.
	I read this 20 years ago.
	Just go to images.
	Go to images.
	The way it describes it, the difference between power, go all the way to the right with the colors.
	Yeah.
	Click on it and zoom in.
	There's a smaller one that's not so ridiculous.
	It is a book Kanye must read today.
	Zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, zoom in so everybody can see it.
	So there's levels to power versus force, okay?
	At the lowest level, zoom out a little bit, zoom out a little bit, zoom out a little bit.
	Yeah, all the way to the left side.
	It starts with shame.
	So you're ashamed.
	You're humiliated, which Kanye is right now humiliated.
	Guilt, so you blame.
	He's blaming Kim and everybody else.
	Apathy, feel sorry for me.
	That's the lowest level of power.
	Grief, regret.
	Maybe he regrets something with his marriage, with Korea, whatever he did.
	Fear, he's afraid it's creating anxiety.
	Every low level area is him.
	Then it's got desire.
	He's craving attention, which is what Andrew just talked about right now.
	Then it's anger.
	He's angry, produces hate.
	None of those qualities are attractive.
	Then it's pride.
	He's scorning.
	He's going to back down.
	He won't back down.
	So the first levels that you actually have some power and you're free, it's courage.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Courage to be wrong.
	Neutral.
	Let me hear both sides out.
	You're willing to improve.
	You're accepting people's mistakes.
	You're willing to reason, love, joy, and then obviously all the way at the highest level.
	When you look at this, I'm like, if Kanye read this book, if he was willing, if he had the courage, if he was accepting that there's some of it on him, I don't know.
	I think you'd have a different way.
	Andrew, where are you at in this?
	You think you're at love or joy?
	I have no fucking clue.
	I'm trying to think, like, this is with your life in general, or this is just with each issue that you come across.
	No, this is where you're at with the way you approach life.
	This is where you're at with the way you approach life.
	You know, for a lot of us, you know, you start at the bottom and you kind of work your way up.
	Some people are actually, you know, naturally at a good level.
	Yeah.
	But some that grew up in shitty environments and, you know, upbringing and divorces and parents and drugs and gangs and financial issues.
	And you have a lot of stuff to be upset about.
	And so to recover from that doesn't happen overnight.
	Yeah.
	No, I don't know.
	It's weird.
	I feel incredibly lucky and incredibly grateful.
	You know, I hope that I can like judge people's actions, at least towards me, that are maybe unsavory, you know, based on what they're going through.
	But I think a lot of that comes from finally maybe achieving success that I always wanted.
	So I'm not operating in a deficit.
	But I also remember, you know, operating in a deficit and then how you feel like the world is kind of against you and you'll kind of like lash out in that way.
	So yeah, hopefully I'm getting on that top half right there.
	And, you know, definitely some of those feelings.
	And it's not about money, Andrew, but a part of it is, right?
	Success and all that.
	Like you told the story about how like when you didn't have money and you were complaining and everything.
	And then obviously when you had money, you're like, I don't know, Utah sounds nice.
	It's a different vibe in your life.
	It's less like the money.
	Like I've never done anything specifically for money.
	Like I always found like, you know, chasing greatness, the money will kind of find you, but because of the rarity of greatness, but like money does offer this really cool thing, which is I want to experience in my life.
	Like I want to know what it's like to completely check out from, to use the Manosphere term, if you will, the Matrix.
	Like I want to know what it's like to do everything in my life because I want to do it, not because I have to.
	And, you know, maybe.
	You're plugging in from the Matrix is what you're talking about.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	So it's like.
	You take the red pill, Andrew.
	Listen, I'm on it.
	But I believe it's like so rare because I don't think it's like very natural to do that as a human.
	So I'm curious, like, and I don't know how much money you got.
	I think I know you got some money.
	I'm borrowing money from you.
	But like, but like when you get to the point where you don't have to work, a weird thing happens.
	You have to find something that you want it.
	What I've always done is like, I've gone, I'm going to do what I love and find a way to make money at it because I don't want to do something I don't love because that's going to drive me crazy.
	But if I love something, then I can put everything in it and I can just give it my all.
	And I just love every day.
	Like I love going to the studio when I work.
	I love solving problems.
	I love these.
	But what happens when you don't have to?
	That's what I'm curious.
	And like, do you remember that moment?
	Like, was it depressing a little bit?
	Like, you almost stop being part of human evolution.
	Right?
	Like, up until people weren't supposed to have hundreds of millions of dollars.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	And then you get it.
	That's not how your brain is designed.
	Do you have to trick your brain into thinking you're still surviving?
	It's a very good question.
	By the way, this whole Utah thing coming out, are you talking about Pete Davidson with wanting to be a Jew?
	Are you thinking about joining the Church of Mormon or LDS?
	Is that kind of where you're going with this?
	Is that what the life changes you're moving to Utah?
	Joseph Smith, is that the direction you're going?
	No, none of it.
	It's so funny because I went there for.
	It's a great place, by the way.
	I went there for Thanksgiving.
	I didn't know it's on Navajo land.
	Oh, wow.
	So, I'm spending Thanksgiving on fucking naven.
	No alcohol, dry county.
	I'm not worried about dry.
	I'm just getting the saddest happy Thanksgiving from these motherfuckers.
	It is the most tragic fucking day.
	Like, it was, bro, it was brutal.
	And it's a little chilly in the morning.
	So, like, when you're eating outside, they're like, Can we offer you a blanket or something?
	I'm like, I ain't falling for that one.
	But, no, I am really curious.
	What happens in life when you can unplug?
	So, when you can, when it's a choice, a choice.
	Right.
	So, this is everything for at least for me.
	I like things to be clear, systems, steps, you know, where the more clarity I have, the better I do, the more distracted I am, the worst I do.
	So, the key for me is clarity.
	And anticipation is one of the biggest advantages you can have if you anticipate what you just did right now on the podcast.
	You may not even be aware of it.
	You anticipate it.
	Like, what's going to happen to my daughter if I'm living in Miami and she's dating, she's sucking, she's only you're thinking, you're anticipating what happens.
	I mean, I was thinking about having a daughter at 23 years old.
	Am I ready to have a daughter?
	Do I want to have that fear?
	I had that fear at 23 years old.
	You're anticipating your question you're asking right now, is anticipating.
	I broke it down in four 20-year runs.
	First 20-year, don't make a big stupid mistake.
	Okay, second 20-year, go make your money, okay?
	Third, 20-year, pursue whatever you want, creative by choice.
	Last 20-year, contribution where you want to go, politics, you want to go do you know, you know, whatever you want to do.
	That's the last one.
	If you want to go do anything without, okay, so that breakdown is okay, I got to make my money first.
	A guy calls me from Hollywood who says, Hey, man, I watch a podcast closely, and but I can't talk like you think I should open up a podcast and really tell people how I feel.
	I said, How much money you got in the bank?
	He says, About $800,000.
	I said, What do you got in every asset, stocks, everything?
	I said, About 1.4 million.
	I said, How old are you?
	35 years old, 38 years old.
	I said, Okay, you don't have a few money yet because if you do that in Hollywood, you're done.
	I'm done.
	If you're Clint Eastwood, say whatever the hell you want to say, you got $500 million in the bank, you're good to go, right?
	So, that's it's different for you because you're a comedian, you get paid to talk shit, so you're a little bit more free to say that.
	But first time I had 10 grand in the bank, I was 21, I got out of the army, it was freaking awesome.
	First time I had a hundred grand, I was like, That's pretty tight.
	First time I had a million in the bank, it was cool.
	It was like, This is legit a million, but 10 grand, believe it or not, felt more special than a million.
	First time, 10 million, it was like, oh, 10 million, you actually felt free.
	Yeah, but when it hit a couple hundred, it's a different story.
	You kind of sitting here like, Yeah, yeah, tell me about the young because I imagine, and I don't know how big you're doing, but like, there's the number that is fuck you, money for you, yeah, and that number keeps growing.
	But I'm not there yet, though.
	Yeah, well, where is it?
	Yeah, where is it?
	Well, well, I don't think, okay, so because um love of the game, let's talk about the love of the game.
	Yeah, does Joe need to do more podcasts because he needs money?
	Does Joe need to do like you know how you watch the UFC?
	What's the best reaction Joe has with Courtney?
	Oh, he does.
	I mean, everybody wants to see that, right?
	It's like it's like how LeBron does whatever he does with his answer.
	Like, do you just want to see Joe do this, right?
	Sick, everybody reacts to it.
	You know, there is something very special about a guy who loves the game he's playing.
	Yep, there it's such a freaking beautiful thing to see.
	You sit there, you say, Dude, I just know you love your freaking game, and I want to watch you do it.
	I watch you do it, I feel the love of the game.
	So, for me, I draw from that.
	I'm attracted to that, right?
	If I see somebody that's doing it for them, I'm like, NBA, there's some guys like I wrote about a guy named Andrew Biden, one into the end.
	The guy didn't love the game, it was just 7-1, 260 pounds.
	Dude, give this guy 100 million bucks.
	It's hard to find a 7-1, 260 guy, right?
	But you see a Steph Curry play, the guy freaking loves the game.
	He's having fun.
	Dude, it's Steph Curry may be, to me, the most exciting guy to want to watch because he loves the damn game.
	So when it becomes about the love of the game, it's no longer money.
	You're pursuing something else.
	So unfortunately, if you're solving money 100%, you're eventually going to slow down.
	If you're pursuing a true vision, cause, purpose, love of the game, it's tough to slow down.
	Every night I come home, my kids want to play Domino.
	We love the game of Domino's, like the love of the game for us.
	So that's how I would explain it to you.
	Also, another reason why I don't want to grow up in Miami, Dominoes.
	There's plenty of dominoes in New York, though.
	No, but the thing about love of the game, which is interesting, is you don't know that it's pure until you make enough money to not play.
	Very good point.
	Very good point.
	So it's like Steph already had enough contracts.
	He don't got to play basketball.
	So the love of the game for you, I'm assuming, is multifaceted.
	I like building businesses.
	But you're into this game as well.
	Yeah.
	And then maybe aspirations of politics.
	Maybe we find somebody like you and put you in the White House.
	Maybe we do certain things.
	First of all, that's big money talk right there.
	That's big money talk when I'm a puppet.
	You know what I mean?
	That's how rich people talk about politics.
	These politicians are broke.
	They're broke.
	We'll put you in.
	Class.
	We'll put you in.
	That is.
	But you know what it is?
	Let me kind of explain that part in maybe a different way that it'll make sense to you.
	Dude, I'm the guy that in Iran, I watched Rocky 4 in Farsi a couple hundred times.
	You know, and the best part in Farsi is the movie is what?
	You know, at the beginning of the fight, you know, I noticed you were this.
	And at the end of you can change and I can change.
	Anybody can change.
	And he was kind of, the whole concept of the movie was, let's bring Russia and the U.S. together, right?
	Unify.
	Which broke down the U.S. By the way, half of my family is communist.
	Half of my family at the time was imperialist.
	So half my family loved America.
	Half my family hated America.
	So I'm kind of like shit.
	Yeah.
	Which makes sense with me.
	So there's that pure, direct experience as a kid living in Iran.
	So that passion, experience, right?
	Now I go to Germany.
	I live at a refugee camp.
	I'm kind of watching all this stuff, saying, man, this is pretty crazy what's going on, hanging out with all these Albanians and Yugoslavian and Czechoslovakian.
	These countries don't even exist anymore.
	You're like, hey, why are you leaving?
	Why are you leaving?
	You're learning immediate education on different cultures, right?
	Like it's a, what's the word?
	Fast track, learn about 40 different countries in 18 months at 10 years old.
	It's kind of what happens when you're living at a refugee camp.
	Then you come to the States.
	I'm the guy that we would leave Wilson Jr. High School and we would walk down home and it'd be like eight of us.
	And I'd say, Andrew, question for you.
	Who do you want to be, Andrew?
	You got four choices.
	You can be the richest man in the world.
	You can be the president.
	You can be the best athlete like Michael Jordan or you can be the best performer like Michael Jackson.
	Who do you want to be?
	And then you would go.
	And we would play this imagination game, right?
	Always living in la-la land dreams, all this stuff.
	Army, camaraderie, group together, sitting down, talking shit, drinking, sarcastic with you, talking shit to him.
	He can't handle it.
	He's sensitive.
	So we really go out for a couple hours.
	We light him up tomorrow morning and freaking formation.
	Believe it or not, the army's filled with great comedians.
	They just don't know they're great comedians.
	We're just not the camaraderie in the army.
	Pay me five bucks a month, but give me a five crew of running mates having a blast, dude.
	Forget about the money.
	So the passion of like this right here, right?
	This is the camaraderie is a very special thing.
	Then I got into business and I like numbers.
	I like numbers a lot.
	Like to me, I'm just looking at the numbers right in the middle.
	Everything to me is numbers, right?
	I'm a math guy, even though I'm a one-point AGPA guy.
	I love numbers.
	So I got into financial service.
	I'm like, gosh, shit, numbers are pretty interesting.
	And then I learned sales.
	And then I learned competition.
	And then I like Hollywood, comedy, movies, sports, combine all those to get us to it.
	We're going to, we have to do a lot of things.
	So for us, our vision today with what we want to do, everything that was on my list, I'm in pursuit of.
	Whether I hit it or not, I don't know.
	But I'm, and by the way, that pursuit, oh my God, is freaking such a high.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like you're in pursuit right now.
	You're in pursuit, right?
	Like I watched Marcelo, comedian that's now with SNL.
	He was with us for a year.
	He was working for us.
	Like little brother, bro.
	Yeah, Marcelo was his producer for like every day he was at our office.
	And I would watch Marcelo.
	I'm like, this kid really believes in himself.
	Yeah.
	He's a dreamer.
	You got to love this guy.
	And he had a vision, too.
	The pursuit.
	That pursuit is attractive.
	So the pursuit.
	Yeah, you know, I'm most miserable when I'm not pursuing something.
	And it can be long pursuits or short pursuits.
	It can be a little project that I want to get excited and I want to execute.
	But if I don't have a thing that I'm working towards, even if I'm doing the things that are generally exciting that I enjoy, it's not as fun.
	It's not as exciting.
	Yeah, I need that thing.
	Yeah, I need the carrot.
	And I, and I, yeah, the more, the more money you have and financial freedom you have, the more you have to incentivize yourself with the carrot.
	Because it's very easy for the carrot to be rent, you know, but like when you don't got to worry about it, now what's the carrot?
	Yeah.
	I'll tell you, like, think about what Elon is doing right now.
	Okay.
	Musk.
	Musk, I said, I believe Twitter is going to be a trillion dollar company six months ago.
	And I made a video about it.
	I said, if this guy buys it, it's going to be a trillion dollar company in no time.
	Three to five years, it's a trillion dollar company.
	You're out of your mind.
	Scott Galloway, he'll never even buy it.
	He's bullshitting you guys.
	You think he's going to buy it?
	He's just faking it.
	You guys are idiots, Galloway.
	He's so good.
	Professor Galloway.
	Yeah.
	My wife got her NBA at NYU.
	And that guy's so fucking annoying.
	There's some things he says that's good.
	There's some things he says.
	You're like, what are you talking about?
	You're not an Elon Musk guy?
	By the way, you know this guy.
	Do you know this Galloway guy?
	Scott Galloway.
	No, no, he's talking about Galloway.
	Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
	He was, by the way, in that world, he's a god.
	Well, he did write that paper about how boys and men and all this stuff.
	Yeah, make money, be in shape and have sex.
	Yeah.
	And then he got like shit on for it, I think.
	And then he like apologized on his podcast.
	I mean, it was just really.
	But anyways, he's like a deity in that world.
	Yeah, he is.
	And you, right?
	He's like a Michael Porter guy.
	NYU, kind of like, I don't know what you would call that.
	The, what is it, collegiate intellectual sphere.
	I think he is.
	You know, he had a show on CNN Plus.
	They crushed it.
	I don't know if you heard about that.
	It blew up.
	But anyways, you look at Elon.
	Elon's not chasing money.
	Elon's like, I think I can take Twitter to a billion active users.
	Dude, if you take Twitter to a billion active users, 10% pay $8 a month, that's $800 million a month in revenue.
	That's $10 billion a year in revenue.
	Bro, you don't need any advertisement.
	You tell everybody, screw off.
	I don't need any of this stuff.
	Then all of a sudden, it's a trillion dollars.
	So the solution, his method of doing it that works so well, he solves for what is my solution, how different's going to be.
	He goes and gathers intel from everybody.
	He doesn't come up with all the ideas.
	What do you think?
	And then all of a sudden he's rich.
	But if you flip it and it's only the money you're chasing, you will slow down.
	Can I ask you guys a question?
	Do you guys think, Angel, I'm going to ask all you guys, do you guys think his motive for the Twitter takeover was genuinely him going, we can't even talk.
	Was he a savior for free speech?
	Obviously, the money's involved, but what do you think his general, like, I think genuinely, like, I'm a Christian.
	I believe in God.
	I'm not overly religious.
	But dude, sometimes God just plucks in these little people.
	Because if it's not for him, you see how what it is in China, bro.
	Regular Americans don't understand.
	They don't watch what's happening in China where they're beating the shit out of these people.
	They have drones spraying chemicals and shit on them.
	It's horrible over there.
	It's slowly this, mind you, you see what they have with the seat.
	Their COVID lockdown shit, this country, I feel, would gladly love, not to go that extreme, but they would love to keep us locked down, make us just depending on the government.
	Do you guys think that that's what his motive, like Elon's shit, is that he genuinely gives a shit about us and free speech?
	I think so.
	I think it's definitely part of it.
	I don't know what percentage, but I think it's also like buying a Rolex at retail where he's like, even if you hate it, it's not going down.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	So it's like, I can't, you're not going to lose money on Twitter.
	If he can figure out spaceships, he can figure out fucking Twitter.
	Yeah.
	Let's be honest.
	It's not like the hardest thing.
	It's like you have the app where everybody talks.
	That's where all the news comes out.
	This is the news.
	He bought the news.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, I think he'll figure it out.
	And I think the more active users, the more money it's going to generate.
	Even if he's not charging a monthly subscription, it's like you want to be on the platform that everybody's on.
	Yeah.
	Do you guys think the government is going to get involved?
	Because I know the White House was like, oh, we're looking at it closely.
	Oh, now because it's somebody that wants free speech, now you guys are all of a sudden worried about it.
	They can only play these games for 18 months before DeSantis gets in.
	They're going to get a lot of money.
	You think he's doing it?
	You think he's doing it?
	Eight years.
	Eight years.
	Every day.
	They're going to have nightmares about DeSantis and Musk.
	They're going to be miserable.
	If he does go, who do you think he's going to run with?
	If you had to.
	What do you mean?
	Right now, who would it be his running mate?
	Right now.
	DeSantis.
	DeSantis.
	Oh, it's you're talking about VP?
	VP.
	If you had to go right now, if you had to just, if you had to, like Adam, with his, with his Vegas bets, what would you bet right now if you had to?
	Because I, I, I'm.
	Mayor Suarez.
	He's about to announce Florida tickets.
	He's about to announce what?
	That he's running for president.
	Who is my goodness?
	No.
	Mayor Suarez, stop it.
	Yeah.
	Stop it right now.
	That's my guy.
	All right.
	No, he's a good guy.
	He's a sweet guy.
	Don't run for it.
	Don't fucking president.
	Don't do it.
	There's no Suarez.
	I love you.
	Yeah.
	Don't run for president.
	You really think there's no chance?
	Suarez.
	Mayor Suarez?
	Yeah.
	He's about to run.
	No, no, but he's going to run for president.
	President.
	You think that he could.
	How many votes does he need to win like Miami?
	16,000 or something like that?
	It's like he's about to announce he's considering running.
	Okay, Mayor Suarez, I love you.
	You're a sweet guy.
	We text.
	Okay?
	Don't fucking run for president, please.
	I mean the sincere.
	I love you.
	And I almost did the coffee talk with you.
	Cafe.
	Cafecito.
	Don't run for fucking president.
	Please.
	Please don't do that.
	That's a huge step.
	That's a huge step.
	Okay.
	Look, bring him back up there.
	Run for governor of Florida.
	They still think that you're Mario Lopez.
	You hope you lose fucking entertainment tonight.
	They have no clue that you're the mayor of part of Miami.
	Part of Miami.
	Like the least interesting one.
	The city of Miami.
	It's not even the beach.
	Get the beach first.
	Suarez.
	Suarez.
	You don't even have beach, Fred.
	You got intercoastal.
	I need you to get beach before we go president.
	Okay?
	How many votes decide Miami?
	For the city of Miami, yeah, probably.
	There's 11 Abuelas in fucking aprons go vote once every four years.
	And they put you back in it.
	Please don't run for president.
	I love you.
	Don't do it just.
	He's a sweet guy, though.
	He came on.
	We had him on the pod.
	He's great.
	Yeah.
	But back to your question about Elon Musk.
	Yeah.
	I think Schultz over here hit it on the head.
	If he could figure out how to send people to Mars and space, he could figure out an app over here.
	I mean, that's just hello.
	No, I'm saying the passion.
	I'm saying the passion.
	But I'm saying why.
	And here's the why.
	Idea that like nerds can figure out social media.
	That's true.
	Like no one that creates a social app can have like a conversation right, the fact that they've been successful at that like i'm not saying Elon is the best uh, you know.
	Conversationalist, you know what I mean.
	Like you see him on a podcast and he like malfunctions and then answers the question right and so speed up the neural link buddy, like you know what I mean.
	Like like, like Joe's asking is like, so what'd you do today?
	Like I woke up, this the smartest guy on the planet.
	You're telling me this guy right, there is.
	It's like Zuckerberg when he talked to Congress drinking water.
	It's almost like he like way more water he broke.
	But here's the thing with not to get all Zuckenberg, not to get all um, you know uh, hearts and stars over here, but he is from South Africa.
	He did go.
	Hearts and stars, let's do it, let's go.
	Andrew Schultz wants to get soft here.
	We'll get soft.
	No, I love the hearts and motherfucking stars.
	You're talking about America right now.
	Okay good, but he is from South Africa.
	Yeah, he grew up under apartheid.
	I think that's something.
	Twitter is an African-owned business.
	That's true.
	Yep, we support Disney supports.
	Yeah, so I think he understands that at the end of the day, like what happened there yeah, but don't forget Joe Rogan, Elon Musk.
	As of like two years ago, they were for sure Democrats.
	Yes, Joe Rogan was definitely voting for Bernie no no but, by the way, Musk voted for Biden still, and he just said it last week.
	Yeah, so that's my point.
	And then over the last two years, they've seen what's going on with the woke culture yeah, and California, and you know leftists and all that, and they're like it's too much yeah, and then he just all that and everything he saw, and apartheid, it's all.
	Just, you know, like in the same way that Cubans are often triggered by Democratic ideology because they come from, I come from.
	I love those guys.
	I love those Anti-democrat Cuban people like you have no idea, man.
	I grew up no idea.
	I had to swim here.
	Do you think you swim with the Cuba?
	Yeah yeah yeah, but something, something about Elon, the apartheid the, the free speech, whatever the trigger, the human rights.
	It just was like, all right, i'm buying Twitter yeah, and that's just kind of where I hope.
	I honestly I think he has good intentions with things.
	I, I don't know he doesn't.
	He strikes me as an honorable man in that regard.
	So I don't think so.
	Politics is always tricky man.
	Like I never.
	I don't think politics is the way.
	I think politics is just a reflection of what the people want.
	Like they're spineless, they'll change, and I think that like scary thing about politics is like politics and like financial institutions.
	Those are the two ones where like, if you have enough influence and you talk about, they will make you radioactive real quick, like like Joe was flying until he was like yeah, I like that Bernie guy for president.
	Then the next day, looking through every video he's ever done, posting things out here, he's this, he's that.
	Third, you know, and the same thing I saw with um, you know Dave Portnoy who runs Barstool.
	It's like Portnoy was was a hilarious guy who had a sports website.
	That's how the world treated him yeah, and then he started doing that.
	Um, he was a daily day trader over the Pandemic Davy Dollars and he was with the financial markets a little bit and they're like, oh no, We're not going to play this.
	Yeah.
	But the beautiful thing about the Wall Street Bets, like the kind of Reddit community, is it's just decentralized.
	It's not one guy that you can make radioactive.
	When you're one dude, you're Joe or your Dave.
	It's like they can bring out everything in your past.
	How do they know?
	Andrew, and you're just crazy, but I'm so happy you brought that up.
	We were just talking about before this, just like the Jerry Jones thing, where somebody out of nowhere, bro, goes, hey, 1957, you were standing in a dude.
	He's standing behind the fucking group of just white.
	You know, everybody looks the same.
	What was it about?
	What it was about?
	He was in, he was in.
	Little Rock, Arkansas.
	Pull it up.
	It was when the desegregation.
	Desegregation.
	They were trying to black trust these black kids trying to get into the school.
	Like, look at the front.
	Jerry Jones.
	Bro, if you could zoom in, Jerry Jones is in the back, bro, standing right there.
	Can we just acknowledge?
	Like, everybody had great hair back then.
	And you're fucking that hair.
	But I'm like 50.
	I'm like fucking pomade and things.
	Poor Malik is looking at his hair coming out of his eye.
	Yeah.
	But like, look at this hair.
	It's stunning.
	And my mind, like, like, it was a gel.
	Was it what is going on?
	But yo, do you see?
	Like, you like, think about it, Andrew, and he's just chilling, bro.
	Bro, this guy with a cigarette does not like black people.
	That was for sure.
	Like, yo, he didn't even light the cigarette.
	It's on him.
	I don't even go to school here.
	I don't even know.
	Yeah.
	It's so funny.
	This ain't even lit.
	But, like, so you imagine, like, my question was: like, those people, they could dig up and they could find.
	So, this has been a this has been out since 1957.
	And then somebody goes, Oh, you know what?
	Watch this: Jerry Jones, right there in the back.
	And mind you, he's just in the wrong place at the wrong time, just standing.
	What if in the back?
	I mean, did he say he was protesting?
	There's no like video.
	Here's his.
	Did you see his answer or no?
	No, I just said he says, I didn't even know why I was there.
	I was 15.
	I was scared I was going to get in trouble.
	I have no other memories outside of that.
	I just showed up.
	So that's what he said.
	Stephen A. Smith said.
	He should have said, I heard there was black girls come to school.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I was trying to dip in the chunk.
	Listen, I'm trying to try new things.
	No, but what is Steven Absolute?
	By the way, that would have been funny if he did say something like that.
	Just mess with him.
	No, I was dating this girl Kiki, and you know, we were.
	She's on the other side, you don't see her.
	Kiki was on the other side telling me, Come on, come on, Jerry.
	Oh, my God.
	Now, what Stephen says.
	Stephen A said, originally he says, come on, guys, you're doing this.
	You're bringing back a picture from 60-some years ago when the man was 15 years old.
	Leave this one alone.
	What are you doing?
	Anyways, then LeBron today says, I'm wondering how come you guys are asking all these questions about Kyrie, but you guys are not losing it over what Jerry Jones said or Jerry Jones's picture is.
	How come you're not that energetic about that?
	And that's how LeBron was kind of a.
	And then Stephen A. came back and said, I 1,000% agree with what LeBron said today.
	Anyways, it's a mess.
	A guy 65 years.
	You got a good point.
	If they want to come after you and target you on anything, it's not going to be hard to find anything on anybody nowadays.
	100%.
	Oh, I'm screwed, especially my military days.
	I did some outlandish shit.
	Drone strikes?
	Not that great.
	But Malik loved that.
	Just love that one.
	No, I'm just talking about pictures and Nick.
	Dude, there's shit out there of me where if they ever want to, bro, like they'll just poop and they got you.
	You just don't run for a public office.
	Never.
	That's Andrew.
	You brought up the Rogan thing.
	He brought up Bernie.
	All right.
	If you talk about politics, right?
	If you talk about Wall Street, finance, they're going to come after you.
	Who else did you say other than politics and finance?
	I'll say quite fine.
	And then we saw what happened with Andrew Tate.
	He started talking about that.
	What was he talking about?
	He was talking about politics, about the Matrix and the system and the world government order.
	And the Matrix canceled him.
	And it was, you know, control at the least.
	I don't know.
	I think Tate's because he's clearly a smart and thoughtful guy.
	And he's quite funny, too.
	But I think his miscalculation was he was playing up a character as comedy, as funny people do.
	I mean, we all do it.
	We play up certain, we'll say certain things on this podcast right now for jokes that are not really real.
	But if somebody went, Hey, did you really feel that way?
	I'd be like, no, you idiot.
	We're joking around because we're four guys in a room, buffs and balls.
	I don't really think Malik is the black guy.
	Yeah.
	I just said that.
	But the tricky thing with Andrew, and I think the miscalculation was his business was tied to those things being his actual beliefs and truths.
	He's getting $5 million a month for Hustlers University.
	And it's tied to him actually speaking these things as truths.
	And I saw him, I think it was on like Pierce Morgan.
	He's like, yeah, I wish I could have maybe redone it or like delivered it in a different way.
	But the thing is, the more salacious you go, the more attention you get, the quicker you get.
	I think he could have gotten there the same place he's at now, just at like a slower trajectory.
	He would have gotten there, but it wouldn't have been so meteoric.
	But yeah, I think that's really it.
	It's like he can't say, I didn't believe any of that stuff because then you lose all that money that's coming in based on those beliefs.
	Do you think he's going to fight Jake Paul?
	If I'm him, I wouldn't.
	Why?
	Because if he loses, he kind of loses the whole shtick.
	I don't think he loses the shtick because I think he's like smart enough to like think of a way around it, like the bravery of just going in there.
	I respect any guy who gets in the ring.
	I mean, it's just, it's a, you know, if you ever, if you ever like box or anything like that, it's like, it's, this is the real deal.
	Like a lot of people talk a lot of shit.
	They don't want to get in there.
	So I respect him for actually doing that in general.
	But Jake is, is a, Jake is a beast, bro.
	A lot of people don't want to.
	Jake is a beast.
	Jake will fuck up most boxers.
	He will fuck up most MMA guys.
	I mean, I think we've already proven that.
	In a boxing match.
	In a boxing match.
	Not MMA.
	I think he'd be the first person to say, like, I'm not beating any of these guys in MMA.
	This is what their expertise is.
	But he's taking it seriously.
	And then I imagine Tate, who's probably in his 30s, right?
	35, 36, yeah.
	Yeah, he probably hasn't fought in a few years.
	Like, that is like a whole transition in life to go do something to prove what?
	You were already a world champion kickboxer.
	What do you prove by beating Jake?
	Maybe you get a payday.
	Maybe it's, I think there's a number amount.
	Okay, let's say you get 5 million.
	Let's say you get 10 million.
	Is it worth it?
	I don't know what the guy's worth.
	But if you got 100 million or whatever, maybe he's saying he got in the bank.
	Like, is it worth it for five?
	Is it worth it to train for six months?
	Your rotating cuffs fucked up.
	Your eye already has issues.
	Like, is that worth it for five?
	Or could you take those six months and apply yourself to another business and make five?
	I don't know.
	What would you do?
	I think you're right.
	I don't think he should fight him.
	I don't think he should fight.
	By the way, if.
	And I don't want to take money out of Jake's pocket because I fuck with Jake.
	I love him.
	Well, no, I think Jake is I put him in a top five best troll shit talkers in the game.
	And he goes up against people above him and he hangs.
	It's not like he's calling out people below him.
	Below Pullion, he goes up and he can go up against anybody.
	No, I don't think Tate wins here, whether he wins or not.
	Like, okay, let's just say Tate fights and he wins.
	What are you going to say?
	What are you going to say?
	If Tate fights and he wins, what changes?
	You're a world champion kickboxer.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But if Jake goes and he wins, what do you think Jake, and more importantly, what does Logan say?
	My younger brother.
	Beat the shit out of you.
	The guy that's mad shit.
	Listen, I don't think you do this fight.
	I don't think it's necessary.
	I think this whole thing is plenty.
	Outside of this, I don't think you do the fights.
	And you're already coming back.
	Like you've seen, listen, there are guys who get canceled.
	They don't have the chops to come back.
	He's got the chops.
	Like he can speak to intellectuals and defend himself pretty well.
	There's some certain things that they'll kind of like pigeonhole him into, and he's just got to go like, all right, I said something was fucked up.
	I shouldn't have said it.
	But he can hang.
	So all he needs to do is continue doing what he's doing now.
	And then he just has to turn down the dial a few degrees.
	And it's not going to be as funny.
	It's not going to be as salacious, but it doesn't need to be because he's already established the name.
	And then he can continue riding that out.
	He's actually, it's interesting things to say.
	He just said some wild shit that if he was a comedian, we would all laugh at and not question.
	Of course.
	Okay.
	I had a joke back in the day that went, it was, it was one of the first things that actually like started my career.
	It went viral on Reddit on Super Bowl Sunday.
	I remember it happening.
	And it was countries that treat women the worst have the best food.
	And it was this whole long bit about like, nobody's ever went out to say like, you want to have Canadian tonight?
	Like, no, whatever.
	It's like the more women, you know, you're like, stay in the kitchen, the better the food comes out.
	And this bit, this like long crafted bit, I put it out and it went viral on Super Bowl Sunday.
	I'm a comedian.
	If there was a person who was literally making the argument that that's how we should treat women, so food tastes better, you'd be like, this guy's a fucking psychopath.
	Right.
	And then if they made a lot of money off of that and they had to stick to that, it's a really awkward position.
	But when you're a comedian, you're going, hey, I was just being entertaining and like playing with things that happen to be true and are correlated, but might not be like causality.
	And you get away.
	It's kind of fun.
	I almost wish Tate could be like, dude, I'm a comedian, but I also say really kind of insightful things so we could still get the fun shit.
	That's the card of a comedian.
	You see, it's like, I almost want to go do a couple and then put amateur comedian.
	And then from there, comedian.
	Yeah.
	Anytime you say anything fucked up, you're like, I was like, I'm just a comedian.
	What you're talking about is comedians get a way longer leash than anybody else.
	As they should.
	Yes.
	That's your job is to talk shit.
	Modern day philosophy.
	And even if it's kind of bombastic and ridiculous and out there and totally extreme, it's like, these are jokes.
	And this is, I was talking to Jordan Peterson about this recently, but like, it's the importance of play.
	It's like human beings, we like to play with the things that we're uncomfortable with, that we fear, right?
	Like Halloween, the whole idea of Halloween is playing with death.
	Like we're terrified of dying.
	We're terrified of like our parents dying, our children, God forbid, dying.
	So we have a whole holiday, which we didn't used to dress up as like football players.
	It used to be like skeletons and that kind of shit.
	It was like, let's play with this thing.
	We're terrified with it.
	We do it with, when you go to like a Disney World or some shit, you go on these roller coasters, you're terrified of it.
	And that's what comedy really is.
	It's playing with emotions that scare us, ideas that scare us, and doing it in a way where we can all laugh and experience it in a safe way.
	So when it happens in real life, we're a little bit more ready.
	That's why it's existed for fucking probably thousands of years.
	People have been busting balls forever.
	When you're with your guys and you're with your guys in the troop, there's no softball jokes.
	No.
	It's the most savage thing that no question about it.
	Your sexuality.
	I haven't, obviously, I haven't done any service, but I wish that people could see what the camaraderie is in these troops because from my understanding, from my friends who have served, my father served, there's no, it's like everybody loses their identity that they have outside.
	And all the, oh, you're Puerto Rican.
	The white guy will say the craziest thing about a Puerto Rican.
	The Puerto Rican can say the craziest thing about a Jewish guy.
	And it's like.
	Dude, I'm Middle Eastern in the Army.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're talking about like letter rip.
	Well, I was in the 9-11.
	You understand?
	You earned your stripes.
	I was in like, and I remember as it was happening, people were like, yo, Vinny, aren't your mom and dad from where these people are?
	I was like, oh, shit, here we go.
	But it was great.
	Oh, but it was ball because I fought back.
	If you can take it, it's really going to build some character if you can take it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Late night, two o'clock, you're drunk, just, you know, calling each other out, talking shit.
	But if any of that was recorded.
	Forget it.
	Forget about it.
	I mean, it's canceled.
	Done.
	Oh.
	But those relationships you have in those moments are so beautiful because you're saying exactly what you feel jokingly to another person.
	You're not putting on like a slight facade.
	So then you get to build these like really deep connections.
	And that's, that's always what I've felt like even with comics.
	You see that like we say kind of whatever to one another, people I've worked with.
	And it's like, I want to build, I want to build a world where we can be almost 100% honest with one another because then I'm a ride for you no matter what.
	You're going to ride for me no matter what because you really know me.
	I'm not being a politician about it.
	I mean, that's, to be honest, what Trump, I think, exposed about politics.
	He was playful up there with a bunch of people faking.
	And it was so hard to not look at him when all these other people were trying to be like Jeb Bush trying to be all professional.
	And he's just clowning Jeb.
	He's like, look how far down you are.
	That was amazing.
	He's like, wake up.
	Yeah, wake up.
	He's taking a nap.
	He's busting us.
	He's a comedian.
	I think what you're talking about, because I did stand-up comedy for many years, and then I got into finance and all that.
	But one of the things I used to always say, because I used to make fun of this person and that person is like, it's not racist if you make fun of everybody.
	If anybody can get it at any given time, it's not racist.
	They're just talking shit.
	The thing with Kanye, it's, nope, it's just the Jews.
	That's like, well, then you're just an anti-Semite and you're a Jew hater.
	And there's no jokes.
	And there's no jokes there either.
	That's why it's not that funny.
	Jews want to be made fun of.
	Jews like stand-up comedy, Andrew.
	You know that.
	Jews control the media.
	And going off what you said at him.
	And I think the beauty, and going off what you just said, Andrew, is infamous.
	The special that you did, which was fucking bananas.
	To want a compliment to open, this is what real comedy is.
	And this is real.
	And I know you know this and Pat and them appreciate it.
	You opened your special with crowd work.
	And for all the people that are out there, this guy, you're taping this thing.
	The money's been itching.
	It's not like if you went up and it didn't work, cut, Andrew, go back.
	No, no, no.
	This is a one-take shot.
	The guy walks out.
	He's busting this person's balls, the Latina in the front.
	And dailing off to do what you just said, you hit everybody.
	The black guy, the Mexican chick, the white guy.
	And I think it's beautiful, number one.
	Number two, they're slowly trying to take that shit away from us, which is like, yo, yo, time out.
	This actually brings us together.
	You fuckers are trying to separate us.
	The guy's going up there on the special and busting balls like you were in the cellar or you were in.
	And it felt like I'm like, okay, this dude's having a blast.
	That's what I wanted, man.
	What I learned from doing comedy is that like, and I'm very fortunate that I have a very diverse audience, like white people found me after black people and Latinos because I started doing guy code and then podcasts with Charlemagne the God.
	You guys know Charlemagne, the God, of course, one of the most brilliant radio personalities in history.
	And we were doing a podcast.
	So black people were the ones who came out to my shows when I was on the road initially.
	Blacks, like Latinos, and like some white people knew me from the MTV stuff.
	And then when I did Rogan and when I started to have more like viral success online, that's when white people found me.
	So for me, I was always very comfortable also just growing up in New York.
	Just this is how we made fun of one another.
	Like my friend group was diverse and we weren't just going to not make fun of the Dominican kid.
	Like he's going to get it like everybody else.
	So what I realized is that if you're making fun of someone to their face and they're laughing, it's very hard to be offended on their behalf.
	You know what I mean?
	Like it's easy if it's just white people making fun of other people and then you go, oh, this is messed up.
	But when you're doing a joke about black people and the black people are in the audience, laughing.
	It's the people, you know what it is, Andrew?
	It's the people that are watching that interaction and going, oh, that's right.
	He's racist.
	And it's like, bitch, shut up.
	You can't even say if she's laughing.
	She's fucking laughing at it.
	And you're pissed off.
	And you're not, and you're like, oh, you're a white person.
	You're upset about this.
	Leave it alone.
	So what happened with the special?
	I saw the story.
	So you sold it, then you bought it back.
	You put all your life savings into it.
	Tell that story.
	Yeah.
	So it was originally going to be with this streamer.
	And I don't even say who the streamer is because I got, I've put it this way, like, they were really great.
	And the guy who initially did the deal, he was awesome.
	But everybody has a boss and everybody's got to look out for their bottom line.
	And that's why I kind of, I have empathy in that situation.
	So basically, they allowed me to buy it back.
	Right.
	Same, same value.
	No premium.
	Yeah, So like, yeah, There's some technicalities with it, but like, but they were very cool to do that.
	And basically I get it back and I and I think about how I'm going to do it.
	I'm like, do I just put it online?
	Like, I want to make my fucking money back.
	So I put it out with this company called Moment.
	And they basically will just like, you know, do these live stream events.
	But I want it to be like a live event and also, you know, you can continue watching it for a few weeks.
	And we put it out through them and it was crazy.
	Like that's the importance of story going back to our initial.
	There are so many people I'm sure who bought the special because of the story of like they heard like stories just touch us differently.
	Like I actually think that's the hack to life in a way for humans.
	Like that's our earliest version of storing information.
	Like when you tell a story, apparently we had Dr. Huberman on the podcast and he was, and I was like, can you tell me like how humans react to stories?
	And he goes, I can't tell you that much, but they did a study and they said that for some reason, when you're telling a story, everybody's heartbeat adjusts at the exact same time in the story.
	When you're giving people information, some people might be offended, some people might agree, some people might be sad, some people might be happy.
	But specifically when information is presented in a story, everybody's heart goes up, everybody's heart goes down.
	And to me, I'm like, that's a superpower.
	Like to give everybody in a room the same emotion.
	That's like music.
	So anyway, people heard about the story and they really got behind it and it was just fucking crazy.
	Like, I mean, yeah, it was just awesome.
	So you got, so you, push back, yeah, yeah.
	So what's your plans with your next one?
	You're going to do a similar model.
	What are you going to do next?
	Well, now we're in an interesting situation that I don't think a lot of comics in history have been in where it's like, I know what it's worth.
	You know?
	So it's like, if a streamer wants to buy it, I know exactly how much I can make.
	Doing it on your own.
	Yeah.
	So like now you got to pay me way more than that because I could get that on my own.
	Got it.
	And ideally, I'm bigger by the time I do the next one.
	So you're going to have to pay me the premium to take it away from doing it on my own, then having freedom to do whatever I want with it.
	And when they buy it, they own all those jokes.
	Like you can't, what's the legality of when they buy it?
	Performance.
	But you can tell the same joke again.
	They can.
	And usually they create like a little leeway.
	Like a window.
	So they go, you can't sell those jokes for another year or something like that.
	But they own that performance of those jokes, which is smart for them because if not, we could, you know, I could do the Taylor Swift shit, which is like, she's just re-recording her old songs so that she can own them because she, they technically just owned that recording of those songs.
	So what a beautiful moment in life where, you know, when you think all this, I'm pretty sure, but when you found out when they're like, we're going to edit your shit, you can't put these in.
	You're like, so what a moment where you're feeling.
	I was bummed, but I wasn't at all worried that, like, I was bummed, but I knew that we could make our money back.
	I didn't know I was going to make this much money.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So now that was crazy.
	Yeah, and so Andrew, because of that, now you're like, bro, what a moment where now I didn't really realize how the worth of that, which I know you know your worth, but now you're like, shit, I'm chilling.
	Yeah.
	You're good.
	Yeah.
	Like, I'm looking at this.
	I'm like, man, like, Chappelle is underpaid, bro.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	What do they pay?
	He got like 60 million for like, what, he got maybe 60 million for three specials.
	And I'm like, you need to get more, bro.
	That's crazy.
	I'm not saying I made 60 million, but I'm saying where I am, you know, and yeah, put it that way.
	Like, so, yeah, you can make, you can make money.
	And I own it still.
	Yeah.
	He doesn't own it.
	So, which not a lot of people maybe will want to do.
	The tricky thing, obviously, about like Netflix or any streamer is that they, you know, like it's hard for people to get to their content.
	Now there's so much competition.
	So it's like, how do they get eyeballs on their content?
	And, you know, I tell the people that I know at the streamers, I'm like, you have to be part of culture.
	And I think the easiest way to be part of culture is to recognize what is moving culture.
	And it's like podcast move culture, but what else moves culture?
	Like memes, as silly as they are, move culture.
	Like the only reason I know of the show The Mandalorian is because of the baby Yoda meme.
	I didn't know that show was on TV.
	And then I saw every fucking meme was popping up and people sending me with baby Yoda.
	And I'm like, holy shit.
	Now Netflix has this stupid thing and a bunch of these streamers have this stupid thing where if you're trying to do a screenshot of their show, your phone goes black.
	Can't do it.
	Why would you take away the number one instrument of PR done by the people consuming your content?
	Can you imagine how many memes with Dahmer when Dahmer was coming?
	Oh my God.
	That's already the number one show.
	Imagine how many memes.
	It's like you have to let the people produce their own content, which drives people to your shit.
	I agree.
	So that's just little shit.
	So next thing you do, would you do something like what Chappelle did, like a three-deal type of a thing?
	Or would that be your expectation?
	Or would you still say, yeah, I'm going to do it myself?
	Maybe I'd do it myself.
	Maybe I'd do it with them.
	They would have to convince me that, you know, obviously, one, I would want to pit it out the exact way that I want to put it out.
	That's really.
	Without them having any kind of control over what you put out there.
	So you want to have full-on like Tom Cruise talk about, this is what I want to say.
	Leave me alone.
	Don't bother me.
	And I'm not doing that to be like a fucking edgelord or anything like that.
	It's just like I test the material.
	Like I'm on the road for fucking two years.
	I see the people laughing at it.
	Like I know the line.
	I don't want to tell jokes that people don't laugh at because I love making them laugh and I love making I love making people happy.
	It's like it's it's a really cool moment to do something for a living that like makes people feel good.
	Not everybody gets to do that.
	Yeah.
	And my thing is this, as an artist, this is the only art, Andrew, that like, for instance, that you could do your art.
	Somebody else takes it and messes with the shit.
	Like there's no painter that finishes and then they go, you know what?
	You used red here.
	Fuck that.
	We're taking that off.
	The black here.
	Nah, dude, you're the artist pimp.
	So I'm in charge of this, which I think for a comedy, if I'm not hands-on and I had the final say, I wouldn't put it out.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm meticulous with the things that I create.
	Like with the special, it took me one day per minute to edit it.
	Wow.
	That's every cut.
	Cut, cut, cut.
	And the sound was designed in a way.
	It was one day per minute.
	And like, cause I wanted you to feel what it's like to be in that room.
	You like the audience?
	That shit was done.
	I felt like I was there.
	That's the audio I heard.
	The number one problem with comedy specials is comics give away the special to an editor that's not as familiar with comedy.
	So they don't know how to create the tension in the room.
	And you create tension.
	You can do it with different camera angles.
	Like if you're telling somebody something serious, don't cut in the middle of that.
	Push in.
	Like, how do humans naturally react when somebody's telling like a serious moment of a story?
	We naturally lean in.
	Yeah, we do.
	Create the push.
	So it's like, and then when you want to create some sort of like laughing moment and you want to give the audience an opportunity to breathe, pull out.
	Show everybody else laughing as well.
	So like when we're looking at how to edit comedy, I'm not just looking at comedy.
	I'm looking at horror.
	I'm like, what's tension release?
	Horror.
	What do we do when you're about to get murdered?
	Tight, Then Alfred getting killed.
	So it's like, what are the other things that, I don't know, that utilize the same things and feelings as stand-up, but aren't stand-up?
	Yeah.
	So I could bring something different you maybe never saw.
	And sound is the other thing.
	If you as a performer are giving more than the audience is giving you, the person at home will feel uncomfortable.
	It's the reason oftentimes like when we watch like the late night shows and you see the audience like overclapping for like a joke that sucked, you're like, that's not real.
	Like something's awful.
	Fallon, Kimmel, yeah.
	And you feel uncomfortable.
	You go, what's going on?
	And a lot of times there's comics who are killing on stage, but they just don't mic the audience, right?
	So at home, it looks like that person is not acknowledging a lack of response, even if there are materials for you.
	Dude, how hard comedy must have been during COVID?
	Like you're watching somebody's show and you're just walking like, what are you doing?
	Stop it.
	This is uncomfortable.
	I did one, Pat.
	I did one.
	I don't know if you probably didn't.
	I did one because I just had to get up, dog.
	I was losing my mind in LA and I was in a room a little bit smaller than this.
	It was for Sean Tae Wayans.
	And it's, dog, camera, her, one dude, and there's a big ass TV with like 100 people that all paid.
	And I would say the joke, which I know worked.
	And I was just like this.
	And they were like this.
	Yeah.
	Eight seconds later, and then I'm doing crowd work on the TV.
	I was about to quit.
	And you're big on stage too.
	It works maybe more for the guys who are doing like one-liners and standing.
	Yeah, Stephen Wright.
	Stephen Wright doesn't need an audience.
	Brilliant.
	Yeah, he doesn't.
	You could just say it right into Mitch.
	Exactly.
	100%.
	But if you're going to be at all animated and you're going to be all like performing these things.
	Oh, this guy's humping goals and jumping around.
	You need this whole thing.
	And you thrive off the energy you're getting from it.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Like, I don't know for me.
	Did you even get up, bro?
	Did you get up?
	No, it was not Miami.
	Oh, wow.
	Hanging with me in the 20s.
	The heavies.
	The heavy jokes.
	You know, everyone these days, you know, speaking of being a comedian, bro.
	Everyone these days wants to be happy about something.
	Yeah.
	Whether you want to like get high and do drugs, whatever, you want to chasing sex.
	Yeah.
	You know, just whether you're making money, business.
	Yeah.
	Being a comedian, right?
	The laughter, the getting, like doing the joke that you're working on, because it's not just getting a laugh.
	You sat there, you wrote it, you edited, you just kind of went mad scientist on us and you went psycho Grim Reaper on how you genuinely come up with these jokes.
	Yeah, yeah.
	When you get that joke, how high of a feeling is that?
	I mean, Benny told us.
	You know what it is?
	It's like, for me, the high is often the pursuit.
	You know, we were talking about that even earlier.
	It's like knowing that I'm like onto something.
	Like when the joke is, I don't ever call a joke done, but when I'm getting in its final form, what I'm chasing in that moment is the kill.
	And that's not as gratifying because I'm not exploring as much.
	You know what I mean?
	Like chasing the kill is dangerous because if you don't kill, now you're miserable.
	But when there's like a new bit that I'm like, like I'm, you know, I'm like, I don't know.
	You know there's something there.
	Yeah, like you're in that.
	You're chef and you're putting more recognition on.
	I'm like, even now, I'm like, there's just something so fun.
	I've been talking, you know, I've been thinking about like the, you know, everybody's like the Jews control the media and shit.
	And I'm like, what is the spin I have on that?
	And I remember I was in, I was in, I was in fucking Florence and I saw the statue of David.
	Have you guys seen the statue of David?
	Not in real life.
	Yeah, of course.
	He's not exactly hung.
	Well, well, not only is he not exactly hung, I was looking at his penis and they were like, it was like the perfect man.
	And I'm looking at it.
	I was like, I was like, yeah, but he's not cut, bro.
	He's not perfect.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, what is this fucking guardian host?
	Yes.
	But he wasn't, you know, he's Malik.
	You want to put up that picture?
	But he was uncircumcised, right?
	And I remember in that moment, I was thinking, and I go, wow, that's so weird that I'm like judging that.
	And then I thought of the word uncircumcised, and I'm like, why is that a word?
	Because the Jews.
	Like, it's just circumcised and dick.
	Yeah.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Like, we don't call people un-gay.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, and in that moment, I was like, yeah, the Jews control the media.
	Kanye might have a point there.
	So, like, for me, I'm like, I'm like, okay, here's like a funny angle that I'm like, ooh, this is cool to explore.
	Like, it's like one of these things where I'm like, it's like, it's so rare nowadays that we're all thinking about the same thing.
	It's so rare that like everybody's thinking about.
	So here's something I think everybody is thinking about.
	And here's a fun way to address it.
	One that I think Jews will laugh at and without feeling like attacked and non-Jews will laugh at because they're like, why the fuck, my dick Jewish, bro?
	What the fuck?
	So for me, I've always shit.
	If you could think.
	Yeah, you could thank us.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So I think there's more there, but that's like an example of like, I'm excited.
	Like, I would never tell a joke to some comics and that, because that's not like done or anything.
	But like, for me, I'm so excited.
	I even want to explore it.
	What is this idea?
	Like, how do I get into that?
	That's that's like when you write angels, like, cause I, I, I, dude, listen, I'm pretty sure your phone is just fucking, I mean, I write sometimes, but this, when you're writing it, you're like, oh, shit.
	Like, I just put it.
	Yeah.
	I know it's going to be there.
	Yeah.
	And just trying to do it.
	Just talking to people about it.
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, for me, it's like, now I want to know.
	Yeah.
	Like, now I want to know every now.
	I want to know more about like Jewish people.
	Like, like, sit down with your buddy.
	Are you circumcised?
	Yeah.
	You want to be a bad person?
	I'm not going to leave you.
	I'm circumcised too.
	All right.
	Welcome to the broken.
	He still has the skin and a little bit of a safety.
	It's on my neck.
	It's on my necklace.
	There it is.
	Little piece of atoms on his neck.
	That's what Rugala is.
	They just wrap him in.
	Try the soup.
	What's in the soup?
	No, give me a spoon.
	Do you consider yourself just a comedian?
	Meaning.
	Yeah.
	Like we had Antonio Brown on, right?
	Yeah.
	We could talk about anything.
	And we're like, I don't know if you saw the interview, heard about it or whatever, but we're like, oh, there's football players.
	I'm more than a football player.
	I'm a father.
	It's like, all right, some people, I'm a businessman.
	LeBron, he's like, I'm not just a basketball player, I'm a businessman.
	But like, there's something beautiful in being a comedian.
	It's like, I am just a straight up comedian.
	And there's a business stuff.
	There's actor.
	There's this.
	But how would you define yourself in that regard?
	Yeah, I'm a comedian.
	I don't need comedy to be important.
	Matter of fact, the less importance you put on it, the better.
	Like, I don't, I am just a comedian, and I make dick jokes.
	Matter of fact, the less you think of what I do, the more I can do.
	Uncircumcised dick takes.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	But you know, so it's like the more importance we put on comedy, the less we can say.
	You know, there's comics all the time that they're saying these things.
	I'm sure I'm guilty of saying as well, but like comedy is so important.
	It's the last bastion of free speech and all these other things.
	And, you know, without comics, we would devolve into communism.
	And then they also go, like, why is everyone starting to silence us?
	It's like, because you're saying you're important.
	Yeah, shut up.
	If you just say that you're a clown, you can say whatever you want.
	And then if there is some truth in it, they can't help but get that in there.
	You think Bill Maher is still a comedian?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think Bill is.
	Jon Stewart.
	John is.
	John, you could argue.
	John, you could argue, was so good at what he did, he ruined it for everybody.
	Because John, John made political comedy seem like that was what you were supposed to do.
	He was so good at it.
	And he's so like pure about it.
	Like John stops his show and he's still like, nah, we're going to get these firefighters.
	They're fucking pay.
	We're going to get them there.
	Sure.
	Like, even if he's not doing it, he's about that life.
	So, but John was so good at the political comedy.
	It almost made, I think, a whole generation of people expect their comedy to be political.
	When in my opinion, like sometimes it has to be, sometimes it isn't.
	I don't ever tell people what side I'm on.
	I don't ever want them to know.
	Like, cause maybe I don't have a side.
	I want, I want Republicans to be like, oh, yeah, he said some shit that I, and I want Democrats to be like, oh, shit, shit.
	And I want them both to be upset at me.
	Like, there's an abortion joke I do in the special.
	And in the comments, both people on the sides have no clue how I feel about abortion.
	Perfect.
	So it's like, to me, that's the superpower.
	But in order to have the superpower, you have to wear the mask because if they know who you are, then they're going to fuck with you.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like, for me, that's where you can be the most pure version of a comic.
	And that's what I got.
	And mind you, you talked about Trump.
	You make fun of Biden.
	You're just, bro.
	And when people ask, especially me, I'm just like, because my cousins are liberals, bro, hardcore, falling the sword.
	They're like, well, Biddy, you're a Republican.
	I go, whoa, I don't vote.
	I don't, I'm just, I'm in, I'm on one of those little raffles, you know, just in the, in the river.
	Just go on.
	I'm on the side of jokes.
	That's what I'm on.
	I'm loyal.
	I'm loyal to these jokes.
	And if I feel a certain way about the world, I'm going to express that.
	Do you think that the jokes that you're able to tell, the comedians are able to tell, you think that it's better content now with Biden or better content when Trump was in office?
	That's an interesting question because I think that I think that people either are not aware of it or they're not willing to admit it.
	But I think that people are actually happier with Biden in office and not right or left.
	I think they're happier being less engaged.
	Everybody's been able to kind of like disconnect a little bit.
	And with Trump, he has this unbelievable magnetism that whether you like it or not, you're going to react.
	The guy talks and you react.
	And I think what happened with that is it went Trump, then COVID, and we were just like sensory overload.
	And everything that we were told became bullshit three weeks later.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like every little bit of information we got was not exactly true.
	And I don't know if you guys went through this, but I just kind of like removed myself.
	That was exhaustion.
	I'm not reading another article.
	Exhaustion.
	Bro, I read an article once.
	It was a whole article, right?
	And like, I read, and it was like, you know, ADD's kicking in.
	I'm like reading and I'm like having a hypothetical fight with my wife she doesn't even know about.
	And then I got to come back to the same of the fucking top of the article four different times.
	I restart this art.
	I get to the bottom of the article.
	I'm like I fucking read that whole article about some shit I don't even care about.
	I got this.
	I'm a citizen of America, I know what's going on.
	The first fucking blurb at the bottom of the article is like, some information in this article has been refuted blah, blah.
	Yeah, I don't need you to fuck it.
	Yeah, put it at the top, put it at the top.
	You how many times put it at the fucking top of the goddamn article?
	You waste two hours.
	I'll never get that time back.
	I had all this new information and it's useless now.
	So, I weirdly think, I think that, like, I think people feel two ways.
	I think people are probably embarrassed about Biden.
	I think people are way more entertained by Trump.
	I think, regardless of where their political beliefs lie, and I don't care who the fuck you are, everybody agrees with a little bit of what fucking Trump says, and everybody agrees a little bit of what Biden's.
	There's no person that's like, I only believe the same thing one man believes.
	Like, I don't, but I wouldn't believe if you, but I think the temperature is cooler.
	The tricky thing now is that Biden's so old and so obviously dealing with cognitive issues, cognitive issues, bare minimum, cognitive issues.
	Right.
	He can't say a number that's more than four digits.
	Hey, listen, Andrew.
	Two words.
	If it's more than four digits.
	Made in America.
	That's his message.
	In America.
	Two words.
	Honestly, he might be more entertaining than Trump.
	If you really think about it.
	Who's the best in person?
	Who doesn't best?
	It's Trump.
	I mean, you had Alec Baldwin.
	You had all these Frank Caliendo.
	Who does Biden?
	I can't even know.
	He does Biden.
	Pyle Dunne does.
	He's fucking the face swap.
	It's brilliant.
	It's brilliant.
	Pyle Dunagan does.
	Because he says the same mistakes, words.
	But then, yo, but Andrew, like real talk.
	And Pat, we talked about this.
	Trump, a lot of people are like, man, just to say Anthony Trump.
	I saw a rally.
	He's not done.
	He's not only running.
	He's fucking coming back.
	You don't think Trump has the party by the balls?
	Pat?
	Who?
	Why?
	Trump.
	Trump.
	Oh, there's no question about it.
	Yeah, he's a even if he doesn't win the primary, he'll run as an independent.
	That's right.
	There you go.
	That's right.
	So they got to give him the nomination if they want, if they want to win.
	And Republicans get organized, right?
	They get in line.
	Here's the difference.
	Here's the difference.
	If you think about a couple of things, what is the biggest difference between so?
	OK, so this is the question to ask.
	Give five reasons why he won in 2016, okay?
	Why he won.
	So you could say a person.
	You could say whatever.
	Give five reasons why you think Trump won in 2016.
	Five reasons.
	All of us together.
	Why he won?
	Yeah.
	Humor.
	Okay, humor's one.
	Because the person he was going against, Hillary, did all that stupid shit.
	Okay, so right there, so let's just say a terrible opponent.
	What else?
	Give another one why he won.
	The celebrity status.
	His apprenticeship.
	Coverage.
	Yeah.
	Just news coverage.
	Constant coverage by everybody.
	That one didn't get the opportunity.
	Okay.
	And then what else?
	Give me another.
	Okay, fine.
	You put that one as well.
	Five was money.
	I think there was a deep yearning.
	I think you guys are missing a couple things.
	I think there were something out of the swamp.
	Whether it was Bernie or whether it was Trump.
	Yeah.
	Just not your typical politician.
	Yeah, I think Hillary, that robotic.
	I'm with her.
	I'm just there was a resentment.
	What are my handlers telling me to say?
	Yeah.
	Where Trump is like, handlers, check out these hands.
	I'm grabbing by the pussy right now.
	I don't give a shit.
	It's also a lot of people who have felt, we were talking about this.
	There's a lot of people who just felt completely forgotten.
	And when you give a nod to people who feel forgotten, they can look past all the other dubious bullshit that you say because finally you're being spoken to.
	Can I give you a couple, mine?
	Please.
	Check this out.
	Okay.
	So here's the real.
	If we were, if let's just say Trump right now called us in the middle of the podcast said, guys, I've made a decision.
	I want to hire you guys as our campaign manager.
	The four of you.
	You guys are helping us up.
	You, Malik.
	Malik, for sure, because he's got to do Google.
	He's got to search stuff.
	So here's what you got.
	So you said comedy.
	You said Hillary, bad opponent.
	You said he's a celebrity, apprentice.
	You said coverage by everybody, and you got money.
	Okay.
	So what's the same?
	He's still funny.
	But a little bitter.
	Yes.
	Before he was funny, he's bitter now.
	He wasn't bitter back then, right?
	He was an underdog.
	There's a different energy between underdog coming up versus a bitter.
	That underdog energy is gone.
	So there's no longer that underdog spirit, right?
	That if you think about the underdog.
	Correct.
	He's like, oh, you're doubting it?
	Now it's like indictive.
	So does he still have the money?
	Yes.
	1,000%.
	Does he still have a bad opponent he's going to go up against?
	Yes, there's still a bad opponent.
	So is he still a celebrity?
	Yes.
	Is he still going to get coverage?
	No.
	No.
	He's not going to get coverage.
	There's no way he's going to get the same CNN.
	No.
	MSNBC have him on.
	So that's gone.
	Right now, here's a couple other things.
	Kellyanne Conway was one of his best fly carriers.
	He lost her.
	She's not doing it this time.
	She's gone.
	She would go on MSNBC, CNN.
	They would invite her and she would defend him better than anybody else.
	That one is gone.
	The next thing that's gone, he said he's not coming back to Twitter because when he did the SPAC deal, I'm willing to bet.
	If I gave Trump a few hundred million dollars, I'm only paying your SPAC if I tell you one rule will give you this $200 million, whatever the amount was that they gave him for the SPAC.
	You will never tweet as long, even if they let you back on, you will not use Twitter.
	So he said, I'm not going to be using Twitter.
	Just come to truth.
	So Twitter is gone.
	Here's the other one that's gone.
	You ready?
	Is there a alternative to him at that time?
	Who?
	Huckabee?
	Rubio?
	Jeb Bush?
	Scott Walker?
	Ben Carson?
	Cruz.
	Ted Cruz?
	Cruz.
	Brian Paul.
	Kasich.
	But there is an alternative today.
	You're right.
	So that is the part.
	And it's a real alternative that's an option, right?
	That you have to look at.
	Does he have Facebook today?
	No.
	Does he have YouTube today?
	No.
	Does he have his daughter today?
	No.
	His daughter said, I'm not part of the campaign.
	I'm out.
	So the part that you have to kind of think about, and then Schwartzmann, I don't know if you guys know how powerful Schwartzman is.
	He said, I'm not supporting.
	Schwartzmann.
	Schwartzmann is in the financial space.
	This guy's a Schwartzmann right there.
	Schwartzmann is the CEO of Blackstone Group.
	Blackstone.
	He said, I'm not supporting.
	This guy's worth 30 billion, 40 billion.
	What's his number right?
	He's zooming a little bit.
	27.5 billion.
	This is a guy that straight up went against Ram Emmanuel and went against Obama and wasn't afraid.
	So the challenge with all of this stuff, he doesn't have the same team as he did before, and there is a real alternative today.
	So you don't have the same playbook today as he did in 2016.
	Now, here's the flip side of it.
	So like when you're like, well, I don't ever want people to think I'm a, you know, where I'm at politically, let them kind of guess and game, all that stuff.
	Where you're like, I think Biden's a good thing, which I understand what you're saying.
	But, you know, the moment McKenzie Scott left a crazy visionary like Jeff Bezos and married a school teacher within a year, she got a divorce because she got tired of the boring, safe stuff.
	Okay.
	But, you know, you're still dealing with a guy that is a flipping fighter who's, you know, like he will, the level of relentlessness this guy's got, there is nobody at his level in politics.
	Who?
	Trump.
	Trump.
	Just nobody at his level.
	He's intimidating.
	He'll get dirty with you.
	He'll talk trash to you.
	He'll tell you what nobody else is wanting to tell you.
	He'll entertain.
	He'll talk.
	He can go for hours talking on stage without a what do you call it?
	Teleprompter.
	All these other guys are teleprompter driven.
	They need script writers.
	This guy doesn't, you know, when you're saying how he did a special and he got up and he started first talking to the crowd, good luck.
	Where's the teleprompter?
	They have to guys need somebody, write the script.
	They need a writer for them.
	Comedium.
	This guy's getting up there saying, you know, I've seen him in a private event multiple times at Mar-a-Lago with the thing off.
	And I tell you, you, no jokes, two hours, you're laughing 30% of the time, 40% of the time.
	You're literally in tears laughing.
	I love it.
	You're like, you could have been a comedian, this guy.
	100%.
	And he just goes, no teleprompter.
	Oh, my God.
	Who can do that today?
	He's can DeSantis do that?
	No.
	No.
	He can't do that.
	Can Newsom do that?
	No.
	Can Biden do it for half a second?
	No.
	Can Kamala do it?
	Can Peach do it?
	Can Rubio do it?
	Can Cruz do it?
	None of these guys have that ability to get up and light it up and 50,000 people show up.
	So as much as it's very easy for people to say, let it loose, you know, no way in the world, all this other stuff, you have to deal with Trump.
	Yep.
	Period.
	So if he doesn't run as a Republican, runs as an Independent, if I'm a like right now, DeSantis is playing the card of just staying quiet, not saying anything back, not talking shit, not retaliating, not rebuttaling.
	Nothing's been said yet, but he has announced that his autobiography is coming out for DeSantis.
	Anytime you have an autobiography, like when yours comes up, we know you're running for office, just so you know that.
	Is that true?
	Yeah, when your autobiography comes out.
	What if he's like, I'm actually in the middle of right now?
	It's so funny you said that.
	You know what his title in his book is going to be?
	Here's the perfect title for your book.
	And I'm telling you, I think the moment I say it, the moment I say it, you're going to say that's the title.
	You ready?
	Circumcised.
	Making the cut.
	Making the cut.
	They're going to say, that's a freaking bestseller right there.
	And Andrew, I'll be your VP.
	There we go.
	There you go.
	That's so freaking funny.
	Oh, my God.
	So then, how do we get Ron a little heat?
	To what?
	To want to get in there?
	And by the way.
	He wants in.
	He wants in.
	Do you think he does?
	You think he really wants to do something?
	Listen, there's two things that never lies, man.
	Look at the guy's eyes.
	Eyes never lie.
	This guy wants it like you have no clue.
	He wants that fight.
	He doesn't want it to be easy.
	He wants to go up against a guy like that.
	As brilliant as he is, as strategic as he is, he wants that fight.
	Oh, you think he wants?
	I think he wants that fight.
	He is a soldier, bro.
	He's a soldier.
	I think, you know, like, you know, how boxers get criticized for not wanting to fight the other opponent?
	Yeah.
	He wants to beat Trump at his best.
	Like, he wants him.
	Wow.
	He wants that.
	Now, that's my opinion.
	I may be fully off.
	And I may be like, because if I think who he is, I don't think he wants to be a guy to become a president easily.
	Like, he's like, well, let me tell you how we did it.
	We got rid of him.
	We got rid of him.
	Oh, here's DeSantis.
	What a lame story.
	You kidding me?
	Trump's story?
	Like, look, what just happened yesterday?
	We're upstairs.
	I'm in a business meeting.
	One Colombian Sam runs in.
	A Guatemalan Mario runs in.
	We're like, oh, Mexico won.
	They're advancing.
	No, they're not because Argentina won 2-0.
	Mexico was supposed to win 2-0.
	Two minutes left, stoppage time.
	Saudi Arabia scores a goal.
	Mexico's out.
	Unbelievable.
	And I'm like, are you kidding me?
	By the way, Mexicans are now watching World Cup.
	They're done.
	Coach.
	Immediately.
	Forget about the coach got fired.
	That thing was that comeback of what just happened there.
	That's a tough loss, right?
	Oh, my God.
	Think about the most incredible losses, like how the Red Sox came back and beat the Yankees.
	You don't want to talk about it.
	That's a pain.
	You look at how, you know, Atlanta lost to Brady.
	Oh, my, 28-3.
	You think about, you know, all these games.
	Dude, nothing comes close what Trump did to Hillary that night.
	Like, it's 3.30 in the morning.
	You just enjoyed watching these people cry.
	I did.
	This is just freaking entertaining.
	I think if this guy wants to truly be a heavyweight and he wants to be like a Reagan-esque type of a guy, he's got to take out Trump.
	And how?
	The how he's got the right people that are sharing insight on how to do it.
	This guy is, he's, he, he's, he's not going to have a hard time doing it.
	In his eyes, he's not going to have a hard time doing it.
	However, so I'll give you some strategies of my opinion.
	And then, you know, it is what it is.
	So look at, for example, okay, you walk into a room, you're negotiating with an enemy, okay?
	And you know, this guy's an asshole.
	He doesn't like you.
	He's bigger than you.
	And he's been bullying you, and he's constantly talking shit to you.
	When you walk into this meeting, you have a few different options.
	Option number one, be diplomatic.
	Yeah.
	And you go in and you say, hey, John, how are you?
	Everything good?
	Hey, thank you for making the time.
	It's great to be here with you.
	Okay.
	Now, to him, you're kissing his ass.
	All right.
	It's fake.
	Number two, you show up eight minutes late.
	Okay.
	Big dick.
	Yeah.
	And then you're like, oh, hey, what's up?
	Hey, do me a favor.
	Can you tell him we got to leave in 20 minutes?
	Okay.
	So what's up?
	Tell me.
	I know you want to figure this thing out.
	Obviously, we have some issues here.
	What do you want to do?
	I'm not convinced you want to do anything here with us.
	So go ahead.
	I'm all ears.
	Go ahead.
	You can take that route.
	He can't come in, be like, hey, you know, he has to send handlers to have those types of conversation.
	Both of them are having their handlers talk to each other, but you eventually have to face off against the guy privately and have the conversation.
	And he's not going to take the Mark Rubio route.
	If he does, he'll get destroyed.
	If he takes the Ted Cruz route, he's going to get destroyed.
	What are those routes?
	Mark Rubio route was the route where he starts off being very diplomatic and then all of a sudden he tries to play the game of Trump to talk shit to him.
	He's like, stop.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	You're not in this league, bro.
	And then everybody's like, it's not your game, bro.
	Don't play this game.
	Like, you're not a sports.
	You're a shooter.
	You try to play inside.
	Yeah.
	That's not your game.
	Keep shooting the threes.
	That's your game, Golden State.
	Play that game.
	This guy has to come out, guns blazing and setting his argument and letting everybody know, but at the same time, giving the message in a way knowing he's still going to need the MA voters to support him to win office.
	So it is a very massaging, you know, like you have to maneuver, you have to push, you have to bully it, you have to respect.
	He's got his work cut out for him.
	But if there's a guy that could pull it off, it's him.
	Go ahead, Angel.
	Does it bother you that currently you can't run for president?
	Does it bother who?
	You.
	Me?
	Yeah.
	What a question you're asking.
	If I can't run for president?
	Yeah.
	I don't think it bothers me.
	I think it's not your choice.
	Everything else in your life so far as an adult has been your choice.
	Listen, some people are put there to help somebody else do it.
	Meaning, maybe one of my kids is going to be a president.
	And my job is to help shape their mindset.
	Maybe I'm a Joe Kennedy.
	Maybe I'm a Fred.
	Maybe I'm a Prescott.
	Maybe I'm that guy.
	And I'm very comfortable playing that role.
	Because this is an area I enjoy the kingmaker part of the game.
	I enjoy it.
	The other night we're having a conversation until one o'clock in the morning, five hours.
	I'm having a conversation with this guy because I really think this guy is super capable of what he can do.
	We've had multiple few-hour conversations sitting there talking to Jededai, seeing what she's doing right now.
	Our insurance company, seeing what our guys are doing.
	I freaking love that part of the game.
	Oh, my God.
	Like naturally.
	But a little bit.
	Oh, president.
	I would vote for you.
	Let me.
	I think you, I'll be honest, I think you could do it.
	Let me let me give you one.
	If you're asking me, like, what laws I would change if I was a, well, you can't do it constitution-wise.
	Here's what it would be.
	I think there are people that love America more who weren't born here.
	Yeah.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	And I think if you wanted to really still keep the integrity of 35 years, do it 35 years from the day you came here or 35 years from the day you became a citizen.
	Let that be the same as somebody that has lived here for 35 years.
	I think that law logically makes sense to me if they did something like that.
	That law makes sense.
	And I think being in the military should give you a little bit more incentive because you've served and fought for this place.
	So that should give you another, okay, knock off five years.
	He's Gucci.
	That's what I, I mean, I don't, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I know a lot of people that love America, but Pat's up there as one of the pro-American, pro-capitalist, pro- So let's say they change it.
	Let's say it changed the rule.
	What about it?
	What about it?
	If they change it, I see a smirk.
	If they change it, I see a smirk.
	I'll be straight.
	This is the first time I'm talking about it on the podcast like this.
	If they changed it, very high likelihood, I would entertain running.
	Very highly like.
	You see Schultz's face when he's patting.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Come on.
	Yo, imagine Andrew as a vice president just coming out the line.
	I'm not, I'm not ass.
	I'm Kelly and Conway.
	Shoot down, Anderson Cooper.
	Yeah, it's just so fucking funny.
	See, that's interesting.
	That's interesting.
	No, you're one of the first guys that I actually like that I would say, well, I don't want you to run because I don't want them to just tear apart your family and you go through all these things.
	But yeah, I get a good sense from you that you genuinely want to help.
	And I think that's what I got from Bernie.
	It was like, I didn't agree with almost any of his philosophy, but I thought he wanted to help, not win.
	And unfortunately, you need to want to win in order to win.
	But that resonated with me.
	I was like, I think this guy just wants to do the best thing.
	And maybe he and I differ on what the best thing is, but at least his heart is in the right place.
	And this is America.
	They're not going to let you change too much shit.
	So I was like, oh, I fuck with that guy for that reason.
	That was like a rare thing.
	It's also interesting that him and Trump resonate at the same time, which speaks to what you were talking about earlier, which was like this dissatisfaction with the political system.
	And then these two outsiders, and because of the corrupt nature of the way Democratic primaries work and fucking super delegates, which is like a mind-boggling concept that even exists.
	But, you know, he wasn't able to get there.
	And it was kind of, you could argue, stolen from him where he wasn't able to get it.
	But like seeing both of those people represented, it was Trump and Bernie at the same time, spoke volumes to what Americans wanted.
	Right?
	Yep.
	And by the way, they should have faced off.
	They should have fucked him.
	They should have faced off.
	I agree.
	Because both of them are true believers.
	They should have faced off.
	And what is it?
	Hillary got in the way and Biden got him both times.
	But what is Trump going to say about Bernie?
	Like, what can he say?
	That's the thing.
	It's like Trump is fascinating because, and I think Ben Shapiro put this the best.
	He's like, politics is a mudslinging competition and Trump is made of mud.
	Yeah.
	Everybody else is in their white suit.
	You know what I mean?
	So that mud shows up way more.
	For sure.
	Or what do they say that, you know, never mud wrestle with the pig because you both get dirty and you go.
	Pig loves to love the mud.
	Exactly.
	That's what Trump is saying.
	Guys, go make it in real estate in New York for 50 years.
	See what happens to you.
	Go in the media.
	Hook up with everybody that he hooked up with date a bunch of models.
	Have the pressure of a father that you had with a mother who was so flamboyant and he picked up that side former.
	Have your older brother die from alcohol and then see what kind of a person you would be.
	This guy is this guy's a ridiculous guy.
	The resume and the pedigree that he has.
	And being from the streets of going up against all these guys that are trying to bully you.
	No.
	Look, it's very hard to be in someone's shadow.
	Yeah.
	Very hard to be in someone's shadow as a kid.
	By the way, secretly, I don't know how much more resentment there is than you doing good in your life and you would have been a superstar if anybody was your father.
	Then put a superstar as a father.
	Dude, that's not like an easy thing to like.
	Imagine you're dating your girl.
	You and your girl are dating each other.
	You're going out and you just made partner at a law firm that's freaking badass in New York.
	They're 31.
	You're the youngest party, made 1.8 million last year.
	And you go home and your dad's there and your wife's like, man, your dad, man, freaking amazing guy and what he does.
	She's like, dude, can you like relax?
	I'm a freaking partner.
	Yeah, but your dad's $3 billion.
	Think about how annoying that can be.
	Right?
	To be able to have your father, Fred Trump, with the badass eyebrows.
	Have you seen Fred Trump's eyebrows?
	Like caterpillars.
	Legend, pull up Fred Trump's eyebrows.
	You're aggressive.
	This is like one of them.
	Look at that shit.
	Dude, this is like, so that's not even a good picture of eyebrows.
	There's another one that's phenomenal.
	You could braid his eyebrows.
	I mean, this is a corn roll on each other.
	But the point is, look at that picture right there.
	Look at that picture right there.
	I mean, you can tell.
	Scroll in a little bit.
	Yeah.
	So look at that.
	Look at that right there.
	Yeah, they're fucking odd.
	You trumps too.
	I'm going to edge them off.
	And then you outdo him in every way.
	That's crazy.
	That's not easy to do.
	Yeah.
	So it's not easy to do.
	No, he's a force, man.
	He's a force.
	But I'm so curious about what about governor?
	No.
	What about going to fix California?
	I'm good, man.
	You don't want to fix California?
	No.
	No?
	No interest.
	Not at all.
	Let me explain to you why.
	Let me explain to you why.
	And hopefully this will make, like, for example, Florida.
	Yeah.
	You know, we got a couple of guys here that are like, Pat, we all know you're going to run for.
	I'm like, dude, I'm telling you right now, it would really have to be like, I would say less than 1% chance I run governor state of Florida.
	Okay.
	Why?
	Here's the way I processed it.
	Okay.
	If I'm going to put the family and the kids through anything, I'm not going to put it through for governor.
	I'd go help somebody be a governor.
	That's a play.
	I would help them, but I'm not going to put my family through that part.
	If it is where the influence can be to really make an impact as a nation, no problem.
	Let's go.
	It's going to be ugly.
	It's going to be nasty, but we're going to be all right.
	We'll prep everybody.
	That would be more worth it than doing something that's a governor.
	Not worth it.
	Like even business.
	Lateral damage.
	It's just, it's, yeah, it's, it's not.
	You know, it's kind of, it's, it just doesn't exist.
	You don't think California is ready?
	I thought California.
	I thought, who was it?
	What was it in that election?
	My boy Dove was, he had feelings about that.
	Who just lost?
	What's the guy's name?
	On Cali?
	Yeah.
	Forgot.
	In L.A.
	No, it was the mayor.
	Oh, what's his name?
	The Rick Recruso.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He's a big.
	What happened?
	Yo, who beat him?
	Who beat him?
	He lost to who?
	He lost to a lady, I believe.
	Yeah, I believe he lost to Lady.
	I thought L.A. was fed up.
	Dude.
	By the way, they were fed up.
	A lot of people that are friends who are in Hollywood who were supporting this guy, who were like, you know, we want Caruso to win.
	And, you know, he's a Republican that ran as a Democrat.
	So that was a great way of doing it.
	But, you know, even with the recall with Newsome, he still won 63%.
	I mean, it's not like it was close.
	Yeah.
	You asking questions that you may even have some interest in this.
	Is there any interest with you with politics?
	No, not zero at all.
	Comedian.
	But listen, you've just seen what's happened the last few years with the model of a comedian winning.
	Trump.
	I don't want to tell people what to do, man.
	I love influencing culture for sure.
	And I love doing that with humor.
	And sometimes I like just telling jokes about absolutely nothing.
	But yeah, I love taking part in culture.
	That's really interesting to me.
	But, you know, I don't want to tell people how to live.
	And I want, and I'm too empathetic for how both people and both sides want to live.
	Because I ultimately think that they want the same thing.
	They don't just, they don't even realize that they're trying to fight for the same thing.
	You know, like you could take even like the most divisive issue.
	It's like, you know, with the trans kids or whatever like that.
	And it's like both sides are actually caring about the kids.
	Like the liberal sides are going like, oh, my God, these poor kids are having this identity crisis.
	And what can we do to make them more comfortable?
	And then the conservative side's going, oh, my God, these poor kids could be influenced to do something trendy that could permanently ruin them.
	What a point.
	But like both parents are concerned about those fucking kids, man.
	So it's like, and you never get a discussion where you can just have them agree because the way that we pin things is, you know, both sides are evil and you want to destroy or whatever.
	So I don't know.
	I think the coolest thing would be able to be to have people on the podcast or have discussions, even like we're having right now, and then have people be able to go, oh, shit, yeah, that other side isn't that bad.
	And maybe the heart's kind of in the right place, but they're just coming at it from a different direction.
	It becomes very tricky.
	And maybe you have way more experience this from running businesses where you have to make decisions that are going to affect people.
	And you have to make decisions that can affect X amount of people that work for you.
	And they're going to disagree with it and be upset by it.
	And that's a listen, as much as we criticize politicians, as much as we're upset at them, as much as we're angry about things, making decisions is hard.
	And living with the consequences of those decisions is hard.
	And I respect that ability, even if I disagree with the decision made, because most people would prefer not to.
	That is a brave thing.
	You look at military decisions, like you pushing a fucking button and sending some guys in somewhere.
	That's a tough thing to do.
	I imagine.
	That takes a fucking man to make that decision.
	Man, woman, I don't care, whatever.
	When I'm saying man, I'm talking about someone who's willing to stand on it.
	That's a fucking tough thing to do.
	Now, we could criticize those all we want sitting back here, but given you're in that situation, what are you going to do?
	You're going to freeze?
	Yeah.
	You're going to freeze?
	I mean, look, natural behavior, you know, most people are afraid of breakups.
	They're afraid of people leaving them.
	They're afraid of not being liked.
	They're afraid of people, you know, what if I lose this person because maybe they didn't have a father figure in their lives or a mom or a bad relationship with an ex who left them or cheated or whatever it is.
	There's these fears that you have, right?
	You're going to have a very hard time leading, making decisions if those things concern you.
	But by the way, Rogan said something to you that he's 100% right.
	Dude, things change when you have a kid.
	It's a very weird thing.
	Malik's got a kid.
	He knows what I'm talking about.
	Things change.
	Two kids.
	Yeah.
	One color.
	What movie is that when a kid is like the white guy go finish?
	Me, myself, and I reached out.
	Oh, my God.
	Was it me, myself, and Irene?
	But I thought it was another one as well.
	I'm trying to see what movie that was.
	Is it George Clooney or George Clooney and that Zach Galifanakis were at the end?
	Anyways, there's a funny movie comedy that happens at the end.
	You were right.
	Maybe once, that's so interesting.
	Maybe once you have children, you go, oh, I need to do something about that.
	To protect.
	To protect, yeah.
	To protect, because it's natural.
	That makes more sense to me.
	I guess where I'm at the situation right now, it's like where I'm like, I don't want to tell people what to do.
	And I love that this society that we've built where we can have this fun and we can play.
	We can also say serious things.
	We can influence.
	And maybe like through that influence, who knows?
	I made us some silly shit about TikTok, but then all of a sudden, maybe started a conversation that maybe could get it kicked out of here, which is maybe a safer thing for America.
	That'd be pretty cool.
	And I like playing that part.
	But even earlier when we were looking at 40 Laws of Power, the whole, you're like, you're able to be neutral, see both sides.
	You're willing, accepting of both sides, and you're able to reason.
	These are all great qualities of a leader.
	And where you are right now, dude, let it rip.
	Let life, life's going to happen.
	Marriage is interesting.
	Having kids is interesting.
	And all of a sudden, it's different when you have a son.
	It's different when you have a daughter.
	It's going to be a very, very different feeling with a daughter or a son.
	And those dynamics are and then age and then conversations with them.
	You're like, dude, this guy's so different than this guy.
	And how do I lead him versus her?
	And, you know, you.
	Isn't that scary when you have kids?
	Like, like accepting the lack of influence you have over them?
	Because you can't be with them every second of every day.
	And they're going to be influenced by their peers and the movie.
	Like, do you have to just let go a bit?
	Can you?
	You don't have a choice.
	You don't have a choice.
	Heavy, right?
	Yeah, you don't have a choice with that.
	So you know what the number one decision is?
	The number one decision is who you marry.
	Yeah.
	You know, when you're talking to her at one of the, you know, say you're dating her for six months or 12 months and you're sitting there saying, okay, I like you.
	Yeah.
	We're cool.
	Would you make a good mom?
	Yeah.
	And if you would make a good mom, what would you teach my kids?
	How would you be?
	What would be like, you know, you're talking about Kellyanne Conway and George Conway and their daughter getting on videos and showing what the life looks like.
	Dude, first of all, you guys screwed up right off the bat when you guys don't even agree on, you know, basic politics.
	I mean, what are you doing?
	Right off the bat, you're teaching the kid is looking at to say, oh, they disagree.
	Okay, I'm going to lean on that.
	I'm going to lean on mom.
	And then boom, I come out.
	So the number one thing is who you marry.
	And then from there is you being clear on seeing what your mom and dad did that you liked, you didn't like it.
	Like, dude, this shit didn't work.
	That didn't work.
	This definitely didn't work.
	I didn't like it, but it was very good because it worked on me.
	I needed this.
	And then eventually, and this is the biggest part.
	The reason why you're going to like making money is you have the resources to put a team together around you.
	Period.
	When you have the money, you get to decide what nanny, you get to decide, what private school you get to decide, what sports team, you get to decide, which coach, you get to decide.
	You have resources.
	You have resources.
	The benefit of having resources to do that.
	And then people that are around you, say if we're working together, your kids coming around me, you're like, I'm just thinking I would pat all my kids going around you.
	I know what Andrew's going to talk to him about.
	Oh, you're vetting the parents.
	Oh, 100%.
	Oh, 100%.
	Yo, 100%.
	That's interesting.
	Andrew, when did you get married?
	December 18th last year.
	So you're about to have your one-year anniversary.
	Yeah.
	And you're trying to have a kid.
	We just started.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Because you're lighting up right now asking these questions.
	You could tell.
	He's inquisitive, very inquisitive.
	Well, it's because he's in the moment.
	He wants to learn from somebody who's done it.
	It's kind of like what we were talking about earlier with the red pill stuff where you're like, talk to me when you get married.
	If you want to just be a guy, single guy, bachelor, for sure, soak it all in.
	But there's another level to it, right?
	Yeah, and then there's another level until you want to be a father, right?
	Who's the actor that you love that's going to play you in a movie one day?
	John Burns.
	John Burns.
	He's a beast.
	He's got this podcast.
	It's awesome, right?
	That's great.
	He's sitting there with Shiloh Buff.
	Shila Buff.
	And he says, you know, when do you become a man?
	When do you become a man, right?
	He says, you become a man when you become responsible for somebody else.
	This is life, right?
	So now when you're a husband now, right?
	Because Schultz and I used to be hanging with the twins type of thing, you know?
	Now you're responsible.
	No, you know what I'm saying.
	Now you're responsible for your girl, right?
	But then that's one level.
	Then there's another level of being responsible for a kid.
	And like all there's different levels to this.
	So when Pat is responsible for four kids, his wife, his father lives in the house, Melville, who's the maid, and then and then everybody.
	All his employees and the people.
	So it's sponge it up, is what I'm saying.
	For me, yeah.
	I mean, curiosity is, I think, my most valuable trait, to be honest.
	And there's just a lot you can learn from people who've had those experiences.
	But yeah, I'm just fascinated by it.
	Like even getting, even getting married, like there's being in love with somebody and there's also wanting to build a family.
	I didn't want to just get married.
	I told my wife, I was like, whether the government knows we're married or not, I don't give a fuck.
	I mean, if you care.
	But what I'm doing to you is I'm going, I want to build a family with you.
	And I knew she was right.
	I weirdly, I went to a bookstore with my wife on our fourth date, actually.
	And I picked out a book and I gave it to her.
	And it was the Karma Sutra.
	Yo, in my head, I was like, he reads books.
	I was like, pick some supercin.
	God, he's so good.
	Yo, he got me so good.
	He's like, wow, he's so good.
	I go, what a reader.
	Pat loves to read.
	I'm like, wow, he's a reader.
	Does he know the story about his book?
	Mostly pictures.
	This is mostly pictures this one.
	So here's what I lied.
	You have a choice.
	That's so funny.
	No, but for real, like, we had those songs.
	Like, I want to build a family.
	And, like, I want to, like, you know, I want to do, I want to pass on the shit my father gave to me.
	You know, my dad's my hero.
	So, you know, I always think about every decision I make, I have this person where I get to go, well, what would he have done in that decision?
	Like, every tough thing that I go through, I go, well, how would he have handled it?
	And I want to be able to be that for my kids, you know?
	But yeah, you know, God willing.
	I think you'll be, I think you'll be just mind you.
	I'm like, I'm kind of like Adam.
	I don't, I mean, I don't have, not kind of like I am like Adam.
	No kids, but just talking to you and seeing you and just, you'll be, you're going to be fine, bro.
	And you learn as you go, and it'll be dope.
	Page seven.
	You'll be good, bro.
	Page 17.
	That's where it's at.
	Karma Sutra.
	You'll be fine.
	My man.
	Anyways, this has been a blast of a podcast.
	I'm glad we got together.
	This was unbelievable.
	Thank you so much.
	Before we wrap up, can I give just a like a, you know, a little PSA?
	So love you, brother.
	That's nothing to do with you.
	So this is more for the audience out here.
	But we were talking about Tate earlier.
	Oh, yeah.
	So we did a whole podcast.
	We've had a great experience with him.
	Yeah, it was huge.
	That podcast.
	That was the first podcast that I think he did right after he was banned.
	We had a great time.
	It was awesome.
	Brave move, by the way.
	Brave move.
	And it worked out well.
	I know he speaks very highly of Pat.
	We speak very highly of him.
	I've said nothing but good things about Andrew Tate.
	You know, I did a where am I going with this?
	We all look at podcasts we do.
	We jokes, we're comedians, what have you.
	And if you ever played sports or do comedy, you get a mulligan every once in a while.
	If you could get a mulligan, you look back and you're like, could have done that one better.
	Have done that one better.
	You've been there before, sure?
	So I did a podcast with this guy called Sneeze.
	Yes um, two weeks ago, let's say, and let's just say it could have gone better.
	I should have been nicer.
	Genuinely I just should have been nicer.
	Yeah, be nice.
	And uh, in the context of this uh podcast, I was, you know, reaching and trying to, you know uh, find common ground with this guy and I said some things about Tate in uh, in the hopes that we were kind of bond over something, and in that process, I kind of said more than I should have.
	I'm not going to get into the details now, but I said more than I should have.
	And uh, when someone trusts you with something, a secret, we take that very seriously around here.
	I take that very seriously.
	And I said something that I shouldn't have and uh, I know that he wasn't probably happy about that.
	So um, one of the things I learned from Tate for sure, sitting down with him, was taking accountability and personal responsibility.
	One of the hardest things to do is look in a mirror and be like, dude, you up dude, like everyone's, like no no, you don't understand.
	It's like no I, I messed up real big time.
	So um, I wanted to take a second to give a me a culpa, an apology, and i'm sorry um, to to Tate, for sure, good of you.
	To to Pat, Courage kind of put that courage.
	Yeah, that's right there.
	And to Pat, because I kind of put you in the in the middle of this.
	Apologizing to Andrew Salt Salts because uh, you're in the middle of this now vinyl Button.
	But generally, I think, if you, if you need to apologize for taking a piece of my dick skin yeah, you freaking rascal opportunities for it, yeah.
	So anyway, that too.
	But we all make mistakes man, we all make mistakes and I think the true test of a man is to own up to a mistake and say, you know what I screwed up.
	And and when you do own up to it and give an apology and um, and move on, you're a good man.
	Last but not least, apologizing to the audience out there, because we do try to do the best thing possible and deliver real good product and we do value your opinions.
	And if there's anyone I pissed off by saying things I shouldn't have, I have the deepest apologies.
	But um, good on you sorry, you're a good man.
	Not easy to do that.
	No, it's not easy to do and we talked about it on the flight back and we said hey, here's how it is and you know and you're you're manning up to it.
	So I respect that yeah but uh awesome okay good, you're good with that.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Proud of you, man.
	Okay uh anyways, this was sick, this was awesome.
	Felt like five minutes.
	Dude, you're freaking amazing.
	I gotta tell you you got a fan here man, big fan of what you're doing.
	Well, I got more questions for you, so one of these days you're gonna get blown.
	The weirdest thing about sitting in podcasts like this is when you've watched someone online so many times and you're like I think I like that person, but you don't know yeah, and then you come in and it's like yeah, we're homies and it's like i'm also a fan and it's also like you know, you know constitute, i'm pissed off about this, because i'm like his fourth date and it's beautiful.
	I'm like what bookstore I built, the whole thing, and then you just you just took that left or he was going for it or helped out, or helped out because he knows he sat down with the doctor that said a story, drew all like what book?
	I was busted, I wasn't invested, I was like you, but y'all, it was amazing, that was awesome.
	Well, if you're going to do your next special, when you decide to do the next special, let us make an offer on it.
	Talk to us.
	Let us make an offer on it.
	Call us.
	Let us know.
	We'd love to talk to you about that.
	But with that being said, I don't know.
	We don't have another podcast this week.
	We are Monday.
	We're with Michael Saylor.
	That's right.
	Which means on Monday, just so everybody knows, we're going to ask four questions.
	Michael's going to talk for two hours.
	We're going to talk for 30 seconds.
	So just come to find out what those four questions are because we've got to talk about Sam Bankman Freed and what the hell he just did with New York Times.
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	My man, take care, everybody.
	Have a great weekend.

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