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Comedian Bryan Callen | PBD Podcast | Ep. 159

FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on https://minnect.com/ PBD Podcast Episode 159. In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Adam Sosnick and Bryan Callen. Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Check out TFATK Podcast: https://apple.co/3yZXDVZ Check out the Conspiracy Social Club Podcast: https://apple.co/3astsg6 See Byran Callen Live: https://bit.ly/3wRXRNu Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list About: Bryan Callen is an American stand-up comedian, actor, writer and podcaster. He studied acting at the Beverly Hills Playhouse. Callen initiated his career as one of the original cast members on the sketch comedy series MADtv. Callen played Coach Mellor in The Goldbergs and reprised the role as a main character in the Goldbergs spinoff series Schooled. He is co-host of the podcast The Fighter and the Kid, alongside Brendan Schaub. About Co-Host: Adam “Sos” Sosnick has lived true rags to riches story. He hasn’t always been an authority on money. Connect with him on his weekly SOSCAST here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw4s_zB_R7I0VW88nOW4PJkyREjT7rJic Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: booking@valuetainment.com 0:00 - Start 1:42 - Getting old 8:07 - Finding purpose 14:14 - Bryan coming up 20:40 - Comedians making it today 26:26 - Barrier to entry 29:04 - Comedians influence 34:29 - Is it tougher to be a comedian today? 40:05 - Why is Bryan still in LA? 43:09 - Small vs Big Government 48:26 - Newsome vs Trump 51:12 - Democrats arent connected to reality 1:05:35 - Biggest Issue with society 1:12:36 - Market crash is coming 1:28:06 - Woman in metaverse 1:36:23 - Who makes more money 1:37:45 - Amber Heard & Johnny Depp 1:45:02 - Bryan Callen does Christopher Walken 1:47:01 - The Hangover 1:49:16 - Sammy The Bull 2:05:31 - Bobby Lee

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	Standby.
	Are you out of your mind?
	Here's the debate.
	You're upset.
	They're saying we believe you.
	I thought, it's like when you buy stocks or Bitcoin or crypto or anything with somebody else's money that they lend you.
	I need to get a margin coming.
	Shit, how do I pay this back?
	It's not a good situation.
	Lots of people are going through it.
	Anyways, we are live.
	Okay, so episode 159.
	Today's guest is the one and only Brian Callan, famous for man, comedian movies.
	The moment he came in, first thing I thought about when I saw him, I'm like, freaking, I'm going back to Hangover.
	The scene out that you're, I can't get that out of my head.
	You motherfucker.
	That's it.
	And Brian, just to be clear, it's not like he's just quoting you because you're here.
	He says it here.
	He says it all.
	Yeah, let me tell you.
	You don't remember me.
	All the time, bro.
	We met at Cavalia, which was this horse show where these guys can do everything on a horse, men and women on a horse.
	And I think you were like, I see this big, handsome guy, I think, with this beautiful woman at the time.
	And you were like, hey, man, I know you from somewhere.
	And he was used to getting that.
	I think we talked now.
	How long ago?
	Dude.
	It's got to be 10, 11, 12 years ago.
	It was a while ago.
	Literally, that's.
	My daughter was very young.
	Yeah, it was a while ago.
	And I saw him like, you got to be kidding me, you know?
	And then obviously we had Brandon Schaub on, which was great.
	It was great talking to Brandon.
	He loves you.
	Brendan also.
	Who?
	Yeah.
	Brendan.
	He's used to it.
	He's used to Brandon.
	What did I say?
	Brandon?
	Brendan.
	Yeah, well, that's your thing.
	People do it all the time.
	Brendan Schaub.
	You'll call him Brandon.
	I call him Breon.
	Brendan Shaub.
	Brendan with an E. Listen, Mr. Schaub.
	Is that easier for you?
	Let's do that.
	Like how you say Peter Thiel.
	How about the guy that considers you a very athletic individual?
	High school Shaub.
	We'll get it.
	We'll see this.
	He brought it up on.
	He says, I told one of the guys.
	Yeah.
	You know, he was talking about one of the guys.
	You know what it was.
	We're still friends.
	I thought Brendan was a great guest.
	I think he's funny.
	It is what it is.
	We played dodgeball and he can't throw a ball.
	I said it.
	I said it out loud.
	I said it a lot.
	Well, you were telling the story about how he blew out a couple hamstrings.
	I don't know if you wanted to throw that slide.
	It's common.
	It was on the podcast.
	I'm begging him to warm up before he sprints 100 yards since he hasn't done it in 10 years.
	And he kind of went now.
	To you.
	He grew that right in the face.
	I'm good.
	The whole hands in the face.
	Because the thing about getting old is you realize the laws of physics, the laws of the universe apply to you.
	When you're young and you're like, well, you know, I don't.
	I have this joke about the fact that when you're young, you actually do believe you're one of God's favorites, right?
	You do.
	You're invincible.
	Tragedy and loss.
	It's so sad over there, but I'm just going to keep shaping it.
	And that's why you do crazy things like parkour because gravity, you know, but nobody in their 40s picks up parkour because you realize, well, God, there are no favorites.
	But there are, though.
	There are a few favorites.
	You, my friend.
	He's half a serious.
	He's biblical.
	Are you 50 yet?
	How old are you?
	55.
	What have you learned?
	Get out of here.
	Are you really?
	Get out of here.
	No shit.
	What have you learned about stretching?
	Good for you.
	Stretching because Brendan Schaub did it in 50.
	Take your lesson for it.
	I do, people laugh, but I actually do yoga every day.
	But not long.
	Really?
	Yeah, but my philosophy is moderation.
	And I think what I'll do is if I'm going to lift weights, I'll do 20 minutes, but it's intense.
	I'll do maybe 15 minutes of yoga, not this hour and a half stuff.
	And I think consistency and then just learning not to, learning how to eat, not getting crazy, not turning into a religion.
	Let's enjoy our life, please.
	And just at the end of the day, moderation, golden mean.
	People get too crazy.
	I'm carnivore.
	I'm keto.
	I just, I'm sorry.
	It's, it's too much.
	I don't subscribe to that.
	Well, I got caught last week.
	I was with a girl.
	I was in the bathroom because I know we're about to hook up.
	I got caught stretching in the bathroom.
	She was like, why are you counting in there?
	I was like, just mind your business.
	Don't worry about it.
	Wait, you're stretching before.
	100%.
	I don't want to pull something during.
	You did a bit.
	We went to his comedy show about how sex in your 20s.
	There's a lot of different sex in the world.
	Well, 40s.
	And I did a bit where I'm like, you know, when you were younger, you could pick the girl up, go in the dresser, and she would throw everything off the dresser.
	I go, that's hot at 20.
	At 40, your whole life is on that dresser.
	There's antiques.
	If a girl does that, I'm like, time off.
	That's my humidify.
	It's a picture of my mother.
	What are you doing, you animal?
	You had that in mind?
	What are you doing?
	It's my own mother.
	So you pick the dresser up.
	You also don't care.
	I mean, after a while, it's like, all right, we've done all this.
	A little connection and we'll move on.
	I got 15 minutes.
	How did the stretching work out for you, though, Venny?
	Dude, I'm not, because, you know, I'm 44 years old.
	It worked.
	I'm just saying, like, when I hook up now by the little side thing, I have water, a banana.
	I don't vitamin Tyler.
	Patrick, I swear to God, when you get in your 40s, you guys, when you're in your 40s, I don't care.
	Like, what are you going to do?
	Make fun of me?
	I don't care anymore.
	If I was 20, I'd be like, what do you, now it's whatever, bro.
	I'm stretching.
	I have to.
	The whole yoga thing I have.
	By the way, that visual is a little concerning.
	I'm just thinking.
	Okay, let me do the couple stretches.
	I'm coming, babe.
	You ready?
	Banana on the stretching.
	The stretching if she walks in.
	I heard somebody say that they were talking about the Red Queen phenomenon, that idea that you have to run as fast as you can just to stay in place.
	And it's a term that they use sometimes, which comes from Alice in Wonderland.
	And I think when you get to a certain age, that's exactly what happens.
	You start to accept part of what wisdom might be is coming to terms with your own limitations, coming to terms with the fact that no matter what you do, you are a limited creature.
	And you are, no matter what you do, you're probably going to, you're not going to look as good next year.
	You're not going to be as strong next year, no matter what.
	There just comes a time and you've got to accept the inevitable decline of the body.
	But I think with that comes hidden gifts, hidden gifts.
	Such as what?
	Acceptance, understanding, wisdom, letting go of those kinds of things that you probably shouldn't have been holding on to in the first place.
	And making room in your mind for other efforts and other understandings.
	How much of that you think is wisdom?
	How much of that is the fact that your testosterone level is just lower?
	You know, this becomes the question between biology and spirituality, right?
	Like, it's so funny.
	As your biology grows, somehow you get so serious.
	Exactly.
	Why am I putting God down?
	Exactly what happened.
	You kids keep having sex and dancing.
	For me, I'm going to be rewarded for lower than death.
	Lord, right now.
	That's because I'm afraid I'm going to get to heaven and God's going to have my entire life on one piece of paper like my dad did with my report card.
	By the way, think about it.
	If they ran the testosterone levels of people who go to church, what that would look like, like attendance-wise.
	Probably very low.
	Cracking data, yeah.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Great question, dude.
	If I find a church with high testosterone level attendees, think about that church.
	Oh, my God.
	I mean, they're sinning every other second.
	That's the church you want to go to.
	Hell yeah.
	I want to be at that church.
	You could draw a correlation, I guarantee, to antibiotics, to things that took care of syphilis and other things where sex didn't cost you your life.
	And also even the pill and all these things that kind of liberate.
	Back in the day, dude, sex was a very risky enterprise.
	You could get some crazy disease.
	You could get pregnant and be banished from society.
	So I think you're right.
	I mean, a lot of things are kind of like God kind of died with antibiotics and birth control to some extent.
	Very true.
	You wonder.
	You wonder the church of Callan over there.
	Yeah, you wonder how much of this stuff, like how much of it changes because literally you're becoming wiser, how much of it changes because you don't have another choice, like to let go of that, you know, midlife crisis when some go through.
	It's like, man, I'm not 32 anymore.
	I'm not 38 anymore.
	I'm not, you know, whatever that number may be for some people, you see it a lot.
	I think like I remember being 28 years old, I meet this guy and he says, you know, 28 is one of the toughest age a man will go through.
	I said, tell me why 28.
	He says, because you're close to 30.
	Friends are married with kids.
	You're no longer close to 20.
	You're about to hit that number.
	If you're not married, you're going to be worried.
	If your career is not said, you have all these types of anxiety and you may make some stupid mistakes at 28.
	And then you turn 38 and you're wondering if there's this thing when the number switches every single time.
	Like you go from 39 to 40, from 49 to 50.
	Did you ever have something like that with you where you're like, yeah, it's just 40, it's just 30, you're just 50?
	No, my biggest fear was regret and I was afraid.
	I think one of the most important things are two of the most important decisions I think you're making in life.
	One is who you choose to spend your life with, right?
	So if you're going to get married or you're going to bring somebody in your life, that's a very, that decision should be treated with great gravity.
	And I think if a lot of times you don't get lucky with that, it's a tough thing.
	But I think the other thing is to know, to learn at a young age and be ruthless with yourself, where are you supposed to place your energy?
	And I knew that if I didn't become a comic or an actor, I was going to become a small person who didn't like himself.
	How old were you when you knew that?
	I was 20.
	I was probably 21.
	Well, I went to college and I said, I'm going to try to be an actor.
	And then I talked myself out of it.
	I did some acting and I said, oh, well, this is very difficult.
	And I don't know what this means.
	And there's no linear progression, right?
	I've always liked linear stuff.
	If you show me how to get a black belt or you show me how to learn how to play the guitar, if you show me the way, I'm going to do it.
	And I'll figure out a way to get better at it.
	Because it's linear.
	You just go.
	Put your head down and just go.
	I've always kind of thrived in routine and practice.
	I don't have a problem with that.
	When you have something like acting or stand-up and you know, Vinny, it's like, there's no path, man.
	You've got to just continue to be, you're in the business of what I call original self-expression.
	But for me, I knew that once I made the decision to become an actor and a comic, that I was going to be okay.
	Because even if it didn't work out, I had the courage to go for it.
	And I think you die a little bit when you knew the answer.
	I think you always know the answer.
	You know, it's like this expression, it takes five minutes to fall in love and the rest is denial.
	And then there's another expression, which is people get divorced after 20 years over what they knew about that person in the first 10 minutes.
	I think it's a very important thing to keep in mind because you know that about yourself.
	You know, people ask me Questions as I get older and stuff.
	You know, they're young men who want questions about life mostly.
	You know the answer, man.
	Usually I go, take a second.
	Do you know the answer to this question?
	You're just asking me for affirmation.
	Right.
	And I understand that.
	We all do it because it's scary.
	It's very scary to actually take a minute and visualize your best self.
	The hero of your movie.
	There's a coward of your movie and there's a hero of your movie.
	And then there's the guy who's just kind of going through his life.
	And when the gunslinger comes to town, he closes the shutters because he's afraid.
	We have all of that in us, man.
	But to really look at the best version of yourself, the version of yourself that you would admire, that you would go to a movie to watch, the version of yourself that does the right thing no matter what, that tells the truth and aligns himself with the highest truth or good that he can imagine or she can imagine.
	Very scary because it requires, it takes responsibility, man.
	And I don't think anybody can get you there.
	You have to stand on your own two feet.
	And sometimes it takes a crisis to force you there, you know?
	But I think it's worth, I really think it's worth meditating on.
	I think that's the North Star all of us should be kind of reaching for.
	And I don't mean just money and status and power.
	I don't mean just that.
	I don't think that's enough.
	I really don't.
	I think it's something else.
	And I do think, Brian, and off of what you were saying, lying to yourself.
	Because once you're true to you, like you said, like when you asked that dude, you know, you know, you know what you're talking about?
	You know.
	And I tell people this all the time.
	I'm not saying be a liar.
	Bullshit people, bullshit, you know, little white lies that protect people's feelings.
	Don't lie to you.
	Why are you lying to yourself?
	You know you're being full of shit.
	Once you're honest and you don't give a shit about anybody's concerns, or I mean, it's not easier said than done.
	When you just don't care, you're just being honest, then you can live your life.
	Do you know what I like about this podcast?
	I watch this podcast.
	I don't watch very few things.
	And one thing I noticed about you, it's going to sound really weird, but you listen very intently.
	And I've heard you and I've watched you listen.
	I've watched you interview pretty formidable people too, some mafia guys or just some very successful people.
	What I liked about you, and I didn't know you, but what I liked about you was that you are genuinely interested.
	You're curious.
	That has nothing to do with money.
	It has nothing to do with anything else.
	You're a driven guy and you're successful.
	But that's kind of what I'm talking about.
	You know, there's this, there's this, I think it's important to kind of reach beyond yourself.
	Think about how much of our culture reflects directly back to ourselves.
	Open a magazine.
	It's all about nutrition, exercise.
	It's all about your biology.
	All right, dude, I got it.
	Your hair.
	I mean, there are ways to do it.
	But that's not necessarily the answer.
	There are things that part of this whole process of talking and podcasting, which great is that, man, it feeds your curiosity.
	It satiates your curiosity.
	The world is questioning about it.
	So many things in life are a dark room.
	And sometimes you get a flashlight and you can look around.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	What a point.
	By the way, so when you were coming up and you're saying 21, you kind of knew because I'm trying to act on like, I don't want to feel like this kind of weird.
	And then you're like, I want to go give this a shot.
	I was working, I was a banker.
	I was at Lehman Brothers.
	Get out of here.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	21, 33.
	Right out of college.
	I was a history major.
	I bullshit my way into the accounts receivable payables department.
	And I just, dude, I was there for 16 months and I was like, I just don't care about mortgage-backed securities.
	I was taking a class on that.
	I got good REM sleep in that class.
	Good guy sleep.
	It just wasn't my thing, brother.
	If you cared a little bit more about it, you could have prevented a 2008 meltdown.
	Maybe mortgage-backed securities.
	He was the one who was.
	Here he is, guys.
	Bring him in.
	If I looked at the tranches.
	Were you there late 80s, early 90s?
	I was there in, yeah, I was there.
	I graduated 89.
	I was there, 89, 90, 91.
	Wow.
	What a time to be.
	Adam's right.
	And I attempt, I temped at Goldman Sachs for almost two years.
	And I just, where were you?
	I was in New York City.
	In New York City.
	Oh, yeah.
	So I just, I mean, I worked a couple blocks away from the World Trade Center.
	So, so, so, you know, Goldman Sachs was where I saw back then, dude, that the quality of people they'd get.
	You would come in, I would see the resumes.
	You'd come in, you'd be like a Delta Force guy, set yourself through Harvard, and you had you could play the cello, you know, and you spoke 20 languages, and they'd be like, you know what?
	Nah, it was unbelievable.
	The quality of how did you get in?
	I was a kid.
	I was an actor writing bad plays, doing stand-up, doing whatever I could.
	Was it your personality that sold it or no?
	Like, was it a resume?
	Because it's not the resume, right?
	It's the personality.
	Did they meet you?
	They're like, we like this guy.
	No, I can find more.
	I make eight.
	Yeah, I figured that I get him laughing.
	Yeah.
	Who doesn't want a professional jackass around you now?
	By the way, that's me here.
	Just so you know, that's exactly how I got my job at Morgan Stanley.
	I was just going to say that.
	Dude, let me tell you.
	You know, you're talking of Vince Vaughan, and Vince asks you a question.
	A good friend of mine, good friend of the show.
	On the event that you did.
	So you talk to him, and you say, so tell me, what are the three things?
	He asked you the question.
	What are the three things you say?
	Well, I was interviewing a lot of models, women, about what they're looking for in a man, and comes along Vince Vaughn.
	I'm like, hey, Vince, you want to do an interview?
	Valutain, PBD.
	Oh, yeah, I know that.
	What's up?
	What's up?
	So I say, well, you know, you're the famous wedding crasher.
	What advice do you have for men?
	Well, you know, here's what I think.
	And he goes, and nobody does this.
	And this kind of goes to your point of being curious and inquisitive.
	He goes, I don't know, but I see you asking all the women, what are your thoughts?
	I go, thanks, Vince Vaughn.
	You know, well, Vince is, I know a little bit too.
	And Vince is, it's also helpful that you're 6'5 and handsome.
	Yeah.
	Extremely.
	Yeah, he's a good-looking guy.
	But he's also a guy who never was a womanizer.
	He never was, he never, he was out to hang with his boys.
	He was driving a cutlass, a cutlass at the height of his powers.
	That guy's right.
	He was never a womanizer.
	No, I mean, I know, from what I know, you know, he was never that guy who was out there.
	I mean, he could find a girl in his glove compartment.
	They were hiding everywhere.
	My friends have done movies with him, and they're like, dude, it's crazy.
	But he never was, he wasn't that guy.
	He was just, he was more about hanging with his boys.
	That's why I think that's a good idea.
	Wasn't he like a mench mensch?
	Was he a mench?
	He's a real man.
	Yeah, he's a mench.
	He's a great guy.
	So anyway, so he, so he asked him a question.
	He says, so he says, hey, Vince, you'd be surprised what all the girls are saying is the most biggest turn on for them.
	He says, what's that?
	Humor?
	He says, yep, getting them to laugh.
	He said, if you can get him, so with humor, you can get into so many different crazy.
	It's insane because Vinny's like, how do you think I can laid out here?
	Yeah, by the way, I'm not rich.
	I'm not in movies, but it's just something where, and it's weird.
	I mean, I've seen the hottest, hottest girls that are just like, what's some dude?
	He's like, he makes me laugh.
	Well, is that it?
	Think about the times, the friendships you have, and the things you hold on to.
	The guys you call you've known for 20 years.
	What is the connective tissue?
	It's the times you were laughing, man.
	It's the times you were just, you know, it's like that George Carlin thing, too.
	It's like there are times you feel the most alive and you almost forget you're human.
	One is inspiration, right?
	It's like George Carlin said, don't worry about the number of breaths you take, how many breaths, how many, how many breaths are taken away from you, how often that goes, right?
	It's so true because that would mean that's sort of that moment of inspiration.
	You hear an amazing piece of music, you see an amazing movie, you are having this moment with your friends where you would rather be nowhere else, or it's a moment with a woman where you'd like, I love this, whatever those moments are, you forget you're human.
	So it's like laughter, laughter is intimacy, man.
	Laughter.
	If I'm not laughing or learning, get me out of there, bro.
	Like, I'll see you later.
	I got kids, you know.
	Yeah.
	Dude, we're so aligned there.
	I mean, it's you, when you, you ever, you ever been in a, you're shooting the shit with friends, you're at the house, you're smoking cigars, you're at a bar, wherever you are.
	And then all of a sudden, you're looking at your watch, you're like, it's 2.30 in the morning.
	What the hell just happened?
	How great is that?
	Great conversations, great laughter.
	It's an unbelievable high.
	And add food, add great conversations.
	Oh, that's mandatory.
	I'm sorry.
	Forgive me for forgetting that because without the food, because my cousin, not to cook up.
	Yesterday, I'm playing on Twitch, Call of Duty.
	I stream with Eric Griffin, right?
	So we're playing, and my cousin's like, wait, tomorrow with Brian Callen?
	He goes, Bro, please tell him, because he had this moment with you, and I was there with him.
	I forgot where you were in LA, either Bray or somewhere.
	And I was featuring or opening for you.
	Bro, he goes, Vinny, tell him that the Kevin Spacey bit that he did.
	He goes, I couldn't.
	And I remember this.
	My cousin's bald, dude.
	He turned beat red.
	He couldn't breathe.
	And he had to run out of improv.
	I just shot that.
	I just shot my special, my fourth special at the brand.
	That moment that we were talking about, Patrick, it was the, I'm like, I'm not going to give it away because it's going to come on.
	Come to the show tonight.
	I got two shows tonight.
	Two shows tomorrow.
	West Palm Improv.
	It's a drive, but if you don't like laughing hard for an hour and 10 minutes, don't get it.
	No, I get it.
	Look, you don't like laughing.
	You're like having a good time.
	This isn't for you.
	Your features are killers, too.
	And Brian's one of the few that I, as a comedian, I don't sit in a room and watch.
	I just don't do it.
	I don't know.
	I just can't.
	It's weird.
	People like, sit in the front with us.
	I can't do it.
	But this cat watching you live, it's like you're having fun.
	It's like we're just in a room and you're just bullshitting.
	Let me ask you a question.
	So all of you have been, you were a comedian.
	You tried in Colorado.
	You stepped up into business.
	You're still a comedian and you're obviously still performing as well.
	So what is the difference between today, because you've been in it 90s, 2000s, 2010s, now 2020s.
	Like I think about Justin Bieber, right?
	How the guy found Justin Bieber, usher's sisters.
	Like, oh, look at this guy.
	Okay, oh my God, this guy's kids playing so, you know, it's pretty sick.
	What if there was no Uber?
	Would we have a Justin Bieber that we have today?
	I don't know.
	You see how back in the days, the what is the group, Don't Stop Believing.
	That's their journey.
	They find that Filipino guy that comes and becomes elite.
	So has it, when you see some guys, is there a lot of stories of people that just pop up and, oh, they chose to become a comedian.
	They got a big following.
	Year and a half later, they're comedians.
	They're getting specials.
	Is that what's happening today?
	Or was that not the way it was 20, 30 years ago?
	It's a very good question.
	You know, when I came up, there was no social media.
	So you were always thrown into a room.
	And it was in Boston.
	It was in New York.
	It was in Kansas.
	It was in LA.
	It was in Bakersfield, wherever it was.
	Idaho.
	Just random.
	Now, here was the difference.
	They were strangers who didn't know you.
	And oh, by the way, they didn't share a common sensibility.
	I can just stand up now in Mumbai or Bombay and they're going to get the jokes that they get in Los Angeles because the internet has brought us together.
	There is this sort of collective consciousness, this neural net, if you will, that we all tap into.
	Not so coming up.
	So most of my career, most of Bill Burr's, Rogan's, all of the older guys were, we came up in Boston, Pittsburgh with a bunch of working class dudes going, I don't know you, I work for a living, make me laugh.
	And it got quiet quick if you didn't bring the money.
	If you didn't bring the money and you were doing your esoteric stuff, if you were up in Canada and then you came down to Miami, I promise you it's a different group.
	And if you're up there doing your stuff now, now what's happened is you can curate your own audience.
	You have people that have been listening to you on a podcast forever.
	So you have your fans are there and it's like your family.
	They're already laughing because they just want to have an experience with you.
	But the pressure is not the same.
	So, so I think in many ways, I'll take heed for this, but I think in many ways, that's not so good for comedy.
	I agree with you 100%.
	It's diluted because now I think I told Patrick earlier: if you just make a TikTok video and you have millions of followers, like you said, they'll come watch you.
	They'll pay the ticket.
	You'll fill up a theater.
	Yes.
	And it's deluded comic.
	To me, this is me.
	And I hate when people go, oh, you're hating or the hustle.
	I didn't say none of that shit.
	What I'm saying is, he came up before me, but like, you had to go to these rooms and you had to fill the, it was word of mouth.
	Like, you became dope because people talked about you around the country.
	You did legacy media, right?
	You go and do the radio tour in the morning.
	All of us did.
	No, I don't care who you were.
	And also, nobody was making money.
	You got to remember now.
	Comics are making money.
	So, so let me ask you.
	You didn't make money back.
	Today, who is a real, real OG comedian, even if you were to take out social media?
	So take out, they have no follow-up.
	Okay, so Bill is one.
	I can listen to Bill all day long.
	Sebastian Manascala.
	We had him on last year at the event.
	He was a freaking amazing Dove Davidoff doesn't do comedy as much anymore, but a monster.
	Beast, you know, Sam Tripoli.
	No, he doesn't, you know, people don't know what a monster.
	You can put Sam Tripoli up anywhere, anytime.
	He'll do an hour and then do a whole new hour.
	And he can do the most offensive shit or the greatest stuff.
	He just chooses.
	You know, there are guys like that that are doing nothing but stand up.
	Oh, Sam is dope.
	Yeah, but there's so many guys.
	Vinny's phenomenal.
	Have you seen?
	I mean, there are a lot of guys who are just who can get up there and crush a room and anywhere it is.
	So I was, if I had known Vinny was here, I know that I could take Vinny and put him up anywhere in the country.
	Thank you.
	And he's going to take 30 minutes and crush that room.
	I can tell you who he is because he came up the right way.
	So, you know, but any of the old guys, Rogan, you know, Joe's, Joe was doing, Joe was, see, people don't realize this either.
	And I've known Joe since I was 28, 27.
	Joe was rushing.
	You've never seen anyone, and I'm going to say, you've never seen anyone crush a room like he did when he was 28, 29, 30, 31, 32.
	He would get up anywhere.
	I don't care if it was Mars.
	And that dude, he had a bit about two tigers having sex.
	Dude, I can't even.
	It would bring the house down.
	It would bring the house down.
	He would melt it.
	Good luck following him.
	Good luck.
	I don't care who I saw the biggest comics in the world try to follow that.
	It was like, oh, no, no, no.
	The oxygen's gone, guys.
	The oxygen's gone.
	I watched him in Jacksonville.
	He invited me.
	I went up there in Jacksonville and listened to him.
	I felt like I had an ab workout.
	I mean, I was like, and that's now, but back then, he was just doing, now he's trying to say things.
	Now it's like, there's a through line, there's a theme.
	Back then, it was just, I'm going to, I'm going to, that's all we, so we would get up and it was just all it was was, I want to see if I can, this is when you knew you were killing it.
	If you could do an hour and 15 minutes and nobody got up to go to the bathroom, that's when you know you're crushing.
	For me, that was, that's my, that's still my barometer.
	Like, I'm looking, I'm going, if I can keep these dudes, if I can kill these guys for that long without anybody, and then you know you did your job because when you're done, they all run.
	No bathroom.
	They don't want to miss anything.
	That's when you're doing it.
	Brian, let me ask you, though, because I had Mark Norman here on my show.
	Mark's great.
	Mark's great.
	But now, again, Mark is a real comic.
	And Mark was not on social media.
	Mark is a guy who came up doing five sets a night in New York City.
	Yes.
	And that's my question is because I even asked him because he's been on Rogan multiple times, Mark Norman, right?
	Killer.
	And I said, like, would you want what Rogan's got to do?
	I don't want all that drama.
	I don't want 100 million bucks.
	I just want to do comedy.
	That's all.
	I just want to be a comedian.
	But we talked about basically, you know, the Callends of the world, the Rogues of the world have been doing comedy professionally for 20 plus years pre-social media and basically kind of like the TikTokers of the world.
	And I think this guy's funny, Trevor Wallace, but like, you know, basically TikTok, Instagram influencers.
	And ultimately, my question is, is the barrier to entry.
	The barrier to entry was so freaking great when you started.
	You had to compete and compete and be the best comedian in your city and your city.
	Now the barrier to entry is you can head it and do a video.
	I don't care.
	That never bothers me.
	I love that people are able to make money now and stuff.
	I never worry about that stuff.
	It's like, for me, it's like boxing, okay, or fighting.
	Okay.
	You might hit Mitts really well, dude.
	That's great.
	You might even jump around a gym with a bunch of non-boxers and you're okay.
	You go to a boxing, boxers who are in it, boxers or MMA guys who spar and who are at the top of the game, who can adjust.
	That has to be earned.
	You got to do it wrong for a long time before you do it right.
	They know it and everybody else around them knows it.
	You know, it's like whoever, like, that's why Eddie Hearn, all due respect to Jake Paul.
	I respect him.
	I think this kid is actually, I mean, you can criticize him all you want.
	He and his brother are hardworking guys.
	They work really hard.
	And hey, they're putting themselves in there.
	You get in the ring and stuff.
	Now, now, Jake, I promise you, knows, that's why when he has these conversations with Eddie, Eddie's like, I got guys that'll light you up.
	Well, okay, yeah, because those guys have been throwing a right hand since they were seven.
	Yeah.
	You know, so there are no shortcuts in life.
	There are no shortcuts in life.
	If I read a self-help book, please buy it.
	It's going to be probably one page.
	It's going to be one page.
	It's going to say, it takes forever.
	It takes forever.
	Put in the words.
	I'm going to copy Blind Caller.
	I do it every day.
	It's true, though.
	I mean, it's true when you think about that.
	But today, again, I don't know if it's the same as it was before.
	Did comedians have as much influence as they do today, 30 years ago?
	Because of social media, has a comedian now had more influence than they did 30 years ago.
	So go back 30 years ago.
	Who was the face 30 years ago?
	Eddie Murphy.
	Who was the Eddie Murphy?
	George Carlin and George Carlin.
	George's favorite of George Carlin, me too.
	And he puts it.
	Yeah, and he sucks Richard Pryor.
	But would you say they had the same amount of influence, if not more than today?
	Or is today's top like take today, Chappelle?
	Does Chappelle have more influence today than Eddie Murphy had in the 90s?
	I do think he does because, but again, entertainment has been so atomized.
	I mean, social media is about getting your attention.
	There are so many different avenues.
	You're competing with so many different ways to.
	And I think that, think about this for a second, like music.
	Let's just take music.
	Music has become more of a consumption.
	It's become something that you digest.
	You listen to while you're driving, and then you're waiting for the next tune.
	So now you've got Doja Cat.
	You've got these different people that have, you know, the hits.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm young.
	But I don't know that I don't know that any musical group, maybe Kanye is an exception.
	I don't know.
	But like the influence or the impact something like Led Zeppelin had or Lenny Bruce had or George Carlin had, when the collective mind was focused on four channels, there wasn't that much expression.
	You had to also earn, you had to earn so much of the experience.
	You had to wait for that right time, turn the TV on.
	You couldn't miss it.
	Hurry up, hurry up.
	It's starting.
	It was that thing.
	There was no recording or anything.
	So when you watched it, you got to watch it once usually, and it had such an impact on you.
	What's the title?
	What is that article?
	Did we read that article a couple months ago, or maybe I read this, where it said, as popular as Tucker is today, 50 years ago, there was a personality in the U.S. that had 75 million listeners on a daily basis because it was only four channels.
	Did we read that article or not?
	No, no, not Cron Con.
	No, not Cron Connect.
	I'll give you an example with myself.
	In 2001, 2000, I was doing a TV show.
	I think it was 2000, 2001, whatever it was.
	And Inside Schwartz, when I was doing the Goldbergs, that was a hit for ABC, the biggest show on NBC.
	I think maybe 6 million people would listen to watch it.
	That was their number one, I think, the Goldbergs.
	So that was, yeah, that was 6 million people.
	Okay.
	I did that show for almost seven years.
	Then I did a spin-off with my character, and we probably got five and a half, six million people.
	That was a big deal.
	That was a hit, right?
	When I did in 2001 or two, I did a show called Inside Schwartz, which was getting, I think, 15 million, 15.5 million people to watch, maybe more.
	We got canceled because it wasn't enough.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Wow.
	So back.
	15 million.
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	Because Friends and Will and Grace were getting, you know, 25, 30.
	So that just wasn't enough for the network.
	They were like, oh, no, we got other shows.
	So that's how we were so focused on one thing.
	And that's the biggest challenge, I think, in many ways for us as a society.
	Even think about how Christianity in the United States was almost like the focal point of our ethics, our morality, our justice system, the way we related to each other.
	In God We Trust.
	You said prayers in school.
	That was never controversial, even though there was this notion of separation of church and state.
	It was still a Christian nation, quote unquote.
	Try saying that now.
	So now there's no fixed point of truth, I think.
	There's no fixed point of attention.
	And that comes with great things, but also its own challenges.
	So to Pat's question, that was a long way of answering.
	No, no, no.
	I think you're saying that basically 30 years ago, the top comedian or the top voice, or whether it's the Walter Cronkitz of the world, did have a bigger voice.
	I mean, think about it.
	In the 90s, how honored would you be to go on Johnny Carson?
	Oh, my God.
	Did you ever go on?
	It would change your whole life.
	Yeah, I did Letterman.
	Overnight, dude.
	Yeah.
	If you go on Jimmy Kimmel today, does anyone give to Johnny?
	No, no, no, no.
	It does nothing for your company.
	That's the point.
	That's the point.
	Yeah.
	But I do think that having said that, the world is also pretty polarized.
	So it might be atomized, but it's also polar.
	We got teams, man.
	We got Wokestan.
	We got Trumpistan.
	And then we got a lot of us in the middle who are kind of like, hey, dude, I'm not with this insane, this gender Nazis.
	I don't even know what they're talking about.
	I just want to, I believe in the free market.
	I like to own my guns, but I don't want spree shooters.
	You know, most of us are kind of like trying to get through life.
	And I think when you have a guy like Dave Chappelle who comes along and says, hey, man, I'm all for equality.
	I'm a black guy.
	I get it.
	You guys are crazy.
	And then you get a small pocket of those people who are like, they're not interested in equality.
	They're just like, how dare you?
	And everything else.
	So it may seem like he's, but he has influence.
	He's who we're talking about.
	Why?
	Because he took on the transgender thing, right?
	So is it tougher to compete today or them?
	Because the way I see it is it was a monopoly back then because back then it had a lot to do with who you knew.
	Like you had to kiss a lot of ass to move up back then.
	Today, it's so noisy to probably make it today's got to be It's got to be, it's a different kind of a heart.
	I guess the heart back then was connection.
	The heart today is: if you're not good, you ain't going to last too long if you're not good.
	If you're good and you put in the work, eventually the market's going to, you know, pick you up.
	Yeah, something's going to happen.
	Well, there's that cult of the amateur, right?
	What I like about today, actually, though, with social media, is that you've got a lot of comics from all over the world, man.
	You got a lot of brown comics.
	You got killers coming out of the Middle East, killers coming out of India, killers coming out of Pakistan.
	One of the guys who's going to open for me, who's going to do a guest spot, is from Pakistan, killer.
	And there is a whole, there is a whole artistic movement coming out of that part of the world.
	And they don't have to speak.
	They can speak Urdu.
	They can speak Hindu.
	They don't have to speak English.
	And they have a massive audience and they're crushing it.
	And then some of them are, you know, their parents went to England and they're coming in and just taking over.
	So it's competitive, bro.
	You're competing with the world, dude.
	But going off, you said, I don't think you have to be, and this is a fact, you don't have to be really good anymore because they're still going to come watch you because of the following.
	You know what I mean?
	That's why I was saying that it's been tainted because they're not, dude, off of what you said, to get another one of you or Joe Rogan or one of these big names.
	I don't see, unless they're going to come like Diamond in the Rough and because they're just putting up special, special his buddy, what's his name?
	Marcelo Marcelo Hernandez.
	Marcelo Hernandez, 20, what is he, 23, 24?
	Oh, we saw him, right?
	Yeah, young, super talented, hilarious, characteristic, super talented, and witty.
	I think it opens for Tim Dylan.
	Oh, great.
	Yeah, you know, Patrick, listen, a lot of times we might be talking like old guys.
	You know, let me tell you something.
	When you get to a certain age, you get over 40, what you start doing inevitably is we go, you know, these young guys, they just don't come up the way we did.
	They're not grounded.
	And I think that's been a phenomenon since I had a history teacher who read The Lament of an Older Man about these kids who are materialistic, don't know the meaning of hard work.
	It was a guy in ancient Rome talking about the youth of, and it was such an eye-opener.
	I went, dude, I'm falling into this trap, right?
	So I think to your point, I'm glad you brought it up is great artists, people who are intelligent, who have an original way of looking at things that hold your attention, they'll always be there.
	And that's what's beautiful about that.
	The idea is, the idea is, you know, how you opened it up when you said everybody thinks they're special, but you know, we're just regular people.
	And then I said to you, there are some people that think they're really special, right?
	So this thing right here is yours, right?
	Nobody else has got this.
	This is yours.
	This, maybe you can change it nowadays to look like whoever you want to look like because, you know, advancement is solid.
	But this is you, right?
	So a kid who's coming up was like, dude, you have no idea how bad I want the world to know.
	I'm special.
	There's something different about me and everybody else.
	Dude, that energy, if it's real for that person and it's that important, the world is eventually somehow somewhere going to hear about who this guy is or this gal is.
	Somehow, some way, the next great ones are around the corner.
	We have no clue who they are.
	I just wonder if the world, you're not fascinated by comment.
	My whole family, we grew up, I was one of the biggest pranksters in the army.
	Some of the pranks I've pulled till today, they talk about.
	Were you in the army?
	I was in the army, man.
	We were like not the pranks I pulled, 80% of them are inappropriate.
	I mean, someone's going to one day tell these pranks that I did.
	Cancel them all with me at the highest level.
	Like if some of this stuff was just, which is terrible.
	But back then, it's just like, listen, you're in the army.
	You're doing what you're doing because they did it to you.
	Now you're doing it back to the new guys that are coming.
	I grew up in a family, Middle Eastern, Armenian, Assyrian.
	Sarcasm, jokes, shots.
	If you couldn't handle being a Bed David or a Bohozian, you changed your last name to something else.
	Bet David was a very, I mean, you couldn't.
	It was a difficult place to be.
	And then that continued in high school.
	And then it continued in the army where we had a crew.
	So guys were like, hey, can I go party with you guys in Nashville?
	I want to go to connections.
	I want to go to a mixed factor.
	They're like, dude, I'm telling you, I don't think you can hang with us, right?
	And then they would come and hang out.
	I was going, oh my God, you guys are ruthless.
	Yeah, that's kind of how just that's how.
	Where did you grow up?
	Yeah, I grew up in L.A.
	I grew up in Glendale.
	Yeah.
	Grew up in Glendale, went to Glendale High School, and then, you know, went to the Army and then came back.
	But you speak fluent Armenian.
	I speak fluent Armenian, fluent Assyrian.
	And Assyrian.
	Fluent Farsi.
	That's crazy.
	German.
	Yeah, I speak.
	I speak a few languages.
	I'll break out the Old Testament right now.
	So by the way, you know the passion of the Christ when you watch them.
	We actually understand what they're saying because we speak Arabic.
	The woman hired as a dialect coach.
	She was a female.
	Dude, I didn't have to.
	She was Syrian fluent.
	By the way, he speaks better than I do.
	No, not at all.
	No, no, because I tell people.
	Come on.
	This guy's better than me.
	No, there's no way that you're not.
	Like, guys, we don't have a race war going on out here.
	By the way, we're all friends here.
	Cursed out everybody.
	Everyone just heard the first language.
	By the way, why are you still in LA?
	Are you like the last of the Mohicans?
	Are you like hoping for Larry Elder for something to turn around?
	I am, dude.
	I am.
	I want DeSantis to come over to LA.
	I'm so done with this.
	But I, you know what, man, I got my kids.
	My ex and my children from my first marriage are there.
	So I can't.
	Yeah, I can't.
	That's tough.
	I can't.
	There's no way.
	But if that wasn't the case.
	I'd be down.
	Okay, so if that wasn't the case.
	Me and Shab would have been like, Shop too.
	Dude, I looked at property in Nashville and Austin.
	I looked at it, but you know.
	You looked at Nashville.
	Rogan still calls me everybody.
	He's like, get to Austin.
	I'm like, I got kids.
	I'm not going to, you know, you buy them.
	But I tell you, let me tell you, my opinion, my opinion.
	I don't want the Austin community to get upset at me.
	I think both Austin and Nashville is a pit stop.
	Okay.
	I agree.
	It's a pit stop.
	And let me tell you why.
	I'm going to explain to you why.
	This is purely coming from my own case study because my pit stop was Dallas.
	Sure.
	So I lived in Dallas for five years and I said, listen, this is a great place.
	No taxes.
	They love hard workers.
	They love capitalism.
	Plano people work the most hours per week.
	So they're workers.
	They're not people that want to leave at 459 community.
	They're willing to do the job.
	I'm three hours from, I'm like, this is it, babe.
	We're going to stay here.
	After about the fifth year, you're like, yeah, we kind of like this place called Breakers and we kind of like LA and we kind of like what Texas offers.
	And if Texas and LA had a baby, it'd be Florida.
	You know what?
	Why don't we just move to Florida?
	So I think Nashville and Austin, I think, is a pit stop.
	And I think it's about three to five years till that pit stop is out.
	My favorite audience is.
	And in many ways, my favorite place in the world is Miami.
	Brilliant.
	Yeah.
	Favorite audience of Austin.
	All I want to be at the end of the day is Cuban.
	Or at least.
	Are you married now or no?
	I am.
	I have a fiancé.
	But yeah.
	I'm actually.
	Callen.
	I'm shocked that you said your favorite audience is in Miami because they can't pay attention to a friend of mine.
	My favorite.
	They want to worry about the club and go partying and talking about the government.
	He loves it.
	You talk shit to them.
	What do you do?
	Excuse me.
	I'm a salesman.
	He's a Spanish.
	They're all salsa right now.
	Let me explain something to you.
	They have a secret.
	And by the way, yeah, I mean, if you want it, Cuban, Venezuela, Colombian.
	The women.
	The beautiful workers.
	Not that I look.
	I have a girl, guys.
	I would never even look.
	Naturally, it changes.
	It's out of control.
	And Brian has a bit where you want to be like a Latin dancer.
	I want to say, I dance.
	Ask me what I do.
	I dance.
	What do you do for a living?
	What do you do?
	I dance.
	Ask me where I'm from.
	I'm going to be romantic.
	Well, where are you from, just out of curiosity?
	I'm from the mountains, my friend.
	Wait, Spain?
	Lots of different places, but Spain, it's my heart.
	I dance with my heart.
	So you're getting paid to.
	I just want to be that guy.
	I just want to say romantic shit all the time.
	So you got to play a movie where you can do that one at the end.
	My way.
	So L.A., you're probably going to be there for a few years.
	You don't see yourself leaving anytime soon.
	You know, look, I live close to the beach.
	I live in a really cool part of L.A. Manhattan Beach.
	Okay, yeah.
	That's where our friend Center's at.
	Center's there, yeah.
	That's not really California, though.
	Correct.
	By the way, we just came back from L.A.
	We were there, I mean, at least when we went together the first time we were there in 2020, COVID lockdown, it was a shit show.
	And we just went back and we were like, and Mario was like, let's go to Venice and see what's going on.
	How shocked were you how nice it was?
	Oh, it's great.
	We were in homeless people.
	No, Venice was clean.
	They cleaned it up.
	When was this?
	When did this happen?
	Because during COVID, it was worse.
	But now, yeah, I own a house in Venice.
	Yeah.
	And I'm holding on to it because it's.
	What turned around in L.A.?
	Because it's better than it was in the city.
	Because the sheriff's department went down and they were doing a live news conference and the woman almost got knifed by somebody.
	You would see naked people.
	These people are the homeless situation, the narrative from the left is that it's a housing problem and it's an inequality problem.
	They are liars.
	They're liars.
	It's an ideology they hold on to and they're not interested in solving the problem.
	Sorry.
	Go to Sacramento and tell them that it's a mental health and drug addiction problem.
	Is that what it is?
	And it is.
	And when COVID hit, those services kind of evaporated for a lot of people.
	And that's why you had so many people on the street.
	So the idea that it's a housing problem and it's inequality is not only a lie, it's a malicious lie because it doesn't do anything for those people who really do need help.
	They need help.
	A lot of these people are schizophrenic.
	They have serious mental health problems that are beyond their control.
	And I think it was Adam Carolla who said, if there were a bunch of stray dogs on the street in Los Angeles, believe me, we'd do something about it.
	1,000%.
	But these are people, so whatever.
	And I'm sorry, but if you look at the bluest states, they have the worst homeless.
	They have the worst.
	They have the most regressive tax policies.
	They have the worst homeless inequality problems because they're not really willing to take it on.
	Go to San Francisco and tell me how that's working out with their DA and all those essentially those Marxists in power.
	Can they turn it around because it's not a problem?
	California is not turning who's running for mayor of LA?
	Caruso, are you following that story or no?
	Yes.
	That seems pretty cool, huh?
	Well, he's made the world worse.
	So could this tough on crime billionaire be LA's next mayor?
	I think so.
	He's tapping into fears of crime, Los Angeles frustration.
	Can you make that a little bit bigger?
	Homelessness billionaire real estate developer has spent more than $23 million on his campaign to become LA's next tough on crime mayor, and experts say his record-breaking investment is buying him a real chance at victory.
	Wow.
	Interesting.
	He's because people, after a while, every society, after a while, looks around and says, this isn't working, man.
	This is not working.
	It just doesn't.
	And especially when you're paying that much tax, and what are you spending it on?
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	Like you help these people.
	And a lot more vets.
	A lot of those guys.
	What do you think it's going to take for you, for California, to have a Republican governor?
	Well, we had a Republican governor.
	The issue isn't Republican governor.
	I think most of the politics is all local, right?
	So the larger question isn't focusing on the gubernatorial race and things like that.
	It's more about local politics.
	We have a Democratic supermajority.
	I don't think a Democratic supermajority, I don't think a supermajority of Republicans or anything is good.
	You need pushback.
	You want there to be this argument, these checks, these balances.
	You want pushback on both sides.
	That's how government churns slowly and stays out of our business.
	There's an important distinction when you talk about big government versus small government.
	Big government is not, you have to be careful about how you define these things.
	Big government, go ahead.
	It's really a question of when that government gets involved in your individual liberties, in your ability to make money, use your own risk, your own ingenuity to make a profit, those kinds of things.
	When a government bureaucrat comes along and regardless of the science says you still have to be in a mask and my children still have to be in a mask, I have a problem with that.
	You're actually interfering in my child's well-being because you have an ideology, you know, whatever that might be.
	I'm using that as a hard example.
	I know that's a controversial issue, but I think we have to be very careful about how we draw that distinction.
	In LA, what they need to worry about is I think it's five women on the LA City Council who control a budget that's larger than, I think, all 40 other states.
	Or in fact, it might be 40 states combined.
	They control a huge budget.
	And it's five of these women that, I'm sorry, are, you know, I don't want the view.
	I want a mix, bro.
	I want a mix of people.
	It's not about, I'm not bashing women.
	It's about, you know, I just want a mix of people.
	I'd like, hey, you know who I want controlling the budget?
	People that have made a business work.
	The other problem is that they don't want to run, though.
	Those guys run.
	The fact that Caruso is running, a lot of times, I said this the other day.
	I said, you know, why is it that people who would make great statesmen that make great senators, congressmen, governors, president have no desire to run?
	And those who shouldn't are so motivated to run.
	I know, because it's two different personality types.
	I think that there's the person that's the hall monitor, and then there's the person doing it.
	Look, it's a hall monitor guy's running the list.
	Think about it for a second.
	We need economists.
	We need think tank people.
	But when you're an economist, you're not paying a price for being wrong.
	When you're an entrepreneur, you pay a price for being wrong.
	You adjusted the price of pain.
	This is what, you know, I think it was the book, the hell it's called, not Black Swan, but the other book, Skin of the Game.
	Well, kind of great book, because, and it's so true.
	I think you're going to learn more about how the economy actually works from an entrepreneur.
	I'm not saying economists like Paul Krugman, et cetera, don't have their place, but they can say whatever they want and they can push sort of an idea.
	Their hands aren't that dirty.
	I'd like to see some calluses on your hands.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So if our politicians, let's just say Newsom is a hall pass guy.
	What's Trump?
	If Newsom's asking for the Hall Pass, who would Trump be?
	Trump is the wrecking ball.
	Trump's just the giant orange guy who comes in and goes, chess, and he just throws it.
	It's like, let's rock and roll.
	You know, Trump is, my buddy caddied for Clinton, Trump, Obama, and Bush.
	Caddy.
	And Caddy.
	You learn a lot of caddy in life.
	Oh, a lot.
	So this is a lot of insider.
	Five hours.
	Where was this?
	Was this my buddy Cameron Booth?
	Yeah.
	In Florida.
	Yeah.
	Caddy for Jordan.
	He was on the tour.
	Great guy and a hell of a golfer.
	And he's not a political guy, but he said the best golfer is Trump.
	And the one guy you'd want to have a beer with at the end of the day is Trump.
	Say what you will about him.
	I think the problem with Trump is that he's just such a narcissist.
	He's such a Trumpist.
	He just loves himself so much and he grates on people.
	He's probably a bit of a con man.
	I'm sorry.
	But you got to admit, the man's funny.
	The man cracks me up.
	And he does have some good ideas when it comes to the economy.
	100%.
	I mean, so I think where we fall off the mark is when we go, he's a, you know, in L.A., you can't even have this conversation.
	If I even say, Trump's, yeah, I don't like Trump, but if I even have a small caveat that there are some things, you get attacked.
	Performing in LA, you can't say things like that.
	I do.
	I do.
	I have.
	I have.
	Do you really feel it, though?
	Oh, trust me, you feel it.
	I did something where I was like, I felt bad for, because I know, I go, where are my Trump supporters at?
	That was, I opened with that.
	So the energy was already, it went to shit.
	I was like, come on, there's, and then it was almost like they were scared, like two or three.
	I go, don't be scared of these assholes.
	I go, where are you?
	It was such an awkward, and then I got off stage and the GM and somebody was like, hey, you shouldn't, I don't think you should, you should take that out of your, I go, what?
	A joke that I want to do.
	You could say the N-word and get away with it faster than you could say Trump, but I'm not joking.
	Same California.
	And LA.
	100%.
	Go deeper on that.
	Obviously, they don't like Trump.
	Okay, but why is it you just can't bring it up?
	I think part of the insulating culture there.
	What's the deal?
	I think Trump is a really polarizing figure.
	I think the way he speaks and I think he was, he's definitely not very presidential, right?
	I think that what the Democrats and the left made a mistake about is that they didn't realize that most Americans are not voting for Trump because they're racist, misogynist, and all that other stuff.
	They're voting for a guy because after eight years with a Democratic president, et cetera, they still only had $500 in the bank.
	And that's what matters to most Americans.
	I want to be able to send my kid to baseball after school.
	I want my daughter to be able to take ballet lessons.
	I don't want to have to make a decision between milk and ballet.
	And if you don't understand that that's the case with most Americans, then you aren't around most Americans.
	And for me, you know, what I notice, again, is that, and I'm not saying the left doesn't have ideas.
	I'm not saying that a lot of people on the left or people who tend to be Democrats don't have, aren't good people, don't have good ideas, aren't part of the mix, aren't necessary for certain things in society.
	We need each other.
	I notice that the people that are making a lot of the decisions, the people that come from a very expensive privileged background, a family that's well connected with a lot of money, step into a very expensive school with very expensive walls that you can't get into.
	And then they go directly into a newsroom, back into academia or right into politics or into Hollywood.
	What does that mean?
	They haven't come into contact with objective reality enough.
	They just haven't.
	And I promise you, I promise you that most of them have never had a plumber, a landscaper, someone in the military, or anybody that works with their hands at their dinner table.
	They are not, it's not because they don't want those people there.
	They just don't come into contact with them.
	The people of color they talk about, the people that actually need help, I promise you they don't know.
	And again, I'm not saying it's their fault.
	I'm just saying it's what happens.
	We get very segregated and we are, you know, you fall into a class substructure and you stay there, man.
	You do.
	And they have compassion.
	They probably have guilt.
	They want to make a difference in the world.
	And they start studying inequality and they start seeing these things.
	And you have an echo chamber in these academic institutions and nobody is pushing back.
	There are no conservative thinkers.
	There just aren't.
	There are no real capitalists because that's not who gets into academia.
	Look at the difference between what happened with Jon Stewart and Bill Maher.
	You go back five years ago.
	Who's God between the two?
	That's a great Jon Stewart.
	That's a great question.
	So John still wants to be invited to the same parties with Obama, still wants to be invited to the same parties with Hollywood, whatever it is.
	And Bill Maher's like, no, no.
	This is who I am.
	And listen, if you like me, because I talk shit to everybody on both sides, and this is what my comedy is.
	And look how much Bill Maher has changed.
	Well, he's just speaking science.
	We all agree.
	It's true, but what you're talking about is very hard to do for a lot of people.
	You know, it's very hard to do because he's like, oh, my gosh.
	But what if this happens?
	And what if that happens?
	No, sometimes you got to sit there and say, you know, I don't know if I agree.
	Like, okay, so Kellyanne Conway is on the view.
	I don't know if you saw that or not.
	She's on the view and they started booing her and then whoopee is trying to play the role of, hey, you know, we're equal, all this stuff.
	Hey, I don't care if you agree.
	Let her finish her thought.
	And then she says, you know, something about Trump.
	It says, I told Trump and Trump responds to this.
	It's hilarious.
	He says, while the first team, Trump debunked, okay, former President Donald Trump on Thursday morning personally lashed out at Kellyanne Conway over her new memoir.
	Here's a deal in which she recalled telling the ex-president that he definitely lost the 2020 election.
	While the first term President Trump rebuking on Conway in her book this week, via spokesperson, the latest lashing was posted on Trump himself in the truth social platform.
	He says, Kellyanne Conway never told me that she thought we lost the election.
	If she had, I wouldn't have dealt with her any longer.
	She would have been wrong.
	Could go back to her crazy husband.
	Yeah, the problem with Trump is the minute you push back, the minute you push back, he's like, I don't like it.
	His loyalty lasts as long as you consider him gosh.
	He is.
	So listen, this was his most trusted advisor.
	Even she will go under that buck as he drives.
	Let me put it to you this way.
	Let me put it to you this way.
	What's the problem with Trump?
	To me, Kellyanne Conway is Tucker from Milwaukee Bucks when they traded him to Miami.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You need certain people.
	Your New York dirty SOB to be on your team.
	Your team was fearless.
	Yeah, she was.
	By the way, if he loses her, if he loses her, I'm telling you right now, it's going to hurt his chances.
	If he loses Kellyanne Conway.
	You can't lose Kellyanne Conway.
	That's a good point.
	You cannot lose Kellyanne Conway.
	She's got cuts.
	Yeah, you cannot lose Kellyanne Conway.
	But at the same time, man, you look at Trump to respond the way.
	Do you like Trump?
	Are you worried that he's going to split the ticket?
	If I have to choose between him.
	DeSantis and Trump.
	Oh, no.
	DeSantis is not running against Trump.
	I know that because I know that.
	DeSantis is not running.
	DeSantis was in our community last Tuesday.
	They did a fundraiser last Tuesday in Bay Colony.
	DeSantis is not running against Trump.
	Now, okay, I could be wrong.
	Last minute things can change because a part of me, we talk about it where we say, you know, I think sometimes you think momentum is going to be on your side all the time.
	And I don't know if he's ever going to peak like the way DeSantis is peaking today.
	Because you peak when there's crisis and he's peaking.
	So it's not time to run.
	That's the story.
	That's the challenge.
	If he runs against Trump, it's a tough one.
	It's a tough one because Trump's going to play dirty and you have to go dirty as well yourself.
	And that's just going to happen.
	So it's not going to be a Trump DeSantis ticket.
	You see a lot of guys here putting Trump DeSantis ticket.
	I think that is as unlikely as a Kobe and Jordan being on the same team.
	It just doesn't make any team.
	It's like putting two big personalities on the same team try to run together.
	It's going to be tough.
	You need somebody to be Pippin.
	You need somebody to be the second person.
	Neither one of them are guys like that.
	So if it's against Biden, if it's Biden being on the ticket, because right now what the left is struggling with is who are they going to replace Biden with?
	What's their story going to be?
	How are they going to present it to the audience?
	The only way you can do it the right way is you have to come up with a health story in the next 12 months is probably what's going to happen.
	The next 12 months, Biden's going to come out and say, I went and had a test with the doctor and the doctor's telling me I have a cyst or have something.
	And unfortunately, we're trying to do our best.
	And if you hear stories like that, that is the narrative, which is kind of like the narrative of soft landing and saying, oh my gosh, you know, he was president while he was dealing with cancer.
	What an honorable man.
	So then America's going to get emotional and sentimental.
	Look, he was doing his best while he was dealing with cancer.
	Some story like that.
	Maybe it's cancer, replace cancer or whatever else you want to replace it with.
	But they have to find a candidate.
	It ain't Kamala.
	Nobody likes Kamala.
	Nobody likes Kamala.
	Not the left, not the right, not the middle.
	Nobody likes Kamala.
	And let me just say this, too, before I want to hear you finish this, because I was saying that a lot of people on the left don't come into contact with objective reality.
	It's the same thing with the right.
	There are a lot of people on the right now who, like, you know, who don't, the people that are making decisions tend to be, they're looked at by Americans as being very wealthy and out of touch as well, right?
	So, but keep going.
	I want to hear what you're saying.
	Yeah, so who do you have?
	So think about what's left after that.
	So then you got to go to Pete Butichic, which is who they want to market.
	Okay.
	Pete Butter.
	Pete Butter.
	It's going to be very tough because of foreign policy.
	Oh, you'd be amazed how many people behind closed doors.
	I don't think America is ready.
	I'm not going to be behind him.
	I don't think America is ready for a first husband.
	I'm being serious.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Like, it's like America's, we've come a long way, but.
	Let me tell you something, Brian Callan.
	I think we are ready for a gay president.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I just don't think we're ready to see him kissing his husband on TV.
	Yeah.
	Again, gay president.
	I'm okay with that.
	Walking down the Russians are going to be like, that's interesting.
	No, this is your guy.
	Well, some say we've already had a gay president, but that's a different thing you were saying.
	So here's the thing, Brian.
	Come on, Patrick.
	The rumors.
	People like us that are like, listen, Trump with the policy-wise, you can't deny it.
	Okay.
	And what pisses me off again, well, my Democratic cousins that are, you know, pretty liberal, pretty kind of leaning left.
	This two years, you guys have had a chance to show us, you know what?
	The hell with Trump, you know, policies aside, whatever.
	Look how good we're doing.
	Look at what's happened in these two years.
	Now, because of your guys' side's policies, you're giving him the easiest way right back in.
	So I don't want to hear this shit talking when he does win.
	But I don't worry about Democrats, and I don't worry about Republicans traditionally.
	Democrats and Republicans are no problem.
	You got both sides of the aisle.
	It makes government move slowly.
	That's how the country was founded.
	I got no problem.
	Some people tend to lean more Democrat, more Republicans.
	Maybe it's a personality type.
	Do you see what he just put up?
	I can put a smile on my face.
	Go back to the picture.
	While he's talking, you put a picture like, then you expect me to keep a straight face.
	That guy's so funny.
	Look what he does.
	How am I supposed to keep a straight face?
	No way.
	That is hilarious.
	Is that a real picture?
	No, I think that's corrupt.
	That is not a real picture.
	It's a corrupt, but it's funny.
	Is it a real picture?
	No, it's not.
	I was about to say that's.
	Okay, it's not that he's gay.
	It's that he takes three months off from a turn.
	And we have a supply chain crisis.
	By the way, Matt Zeller believes it needs to be two years.
	No way.
	Matt Zeller believes we'd love to have you back on.
	Matt Zeller believes that the leave needs to be two years.
	Who's going to pay for it?
	Exactly.
	You're going to pay for it.
	I'm going to pay for it.
	So go back to the, you don't have a problem with the Democrat.
	You don't have a problem with the Republicans.
	They're going to buy the husband.
	My issue is this far-left woke agenda that has taken hold.
	They are, When you start talking about, when the New York Times runs 81 articles, I think, on gender-neutral bathrooms, when the world's on fire, and this was back when I think it was a couple years ago, it's like you're so out of touch with how Americans think.
	You're so out of touch when trans rights are trumping everything else.
	Dude, you're talking about a very tiny, tiny minority of people that when you want to take children and put them on puberty blockers because you're an expert in gender dysphoria.
	I don't, no, you're not.
	No, you're not.
	And I don't agree.
	Let a child's brain develop.
	They go through phases.
	You know, these are common sense things.
	And when the left hijacks, when they start doing that, the far left starts doing that and they drown out the reasonable voices.
	What happens is it creates a whole bunch of people on this side who go, you want to go to war, dude?
	You want to go to war?
	We can do this.
	That's what I worry about.
	I worry that I really worry when I hear people over there talking about tearing down institutions and characterizing the United States as only a patriarchy, a tyranny, a racist country, all those things.
	Okay.
	We're a lot more than that.
	We are a lot more, just like a human being is.
	Sinners, saints, and everything in between.
	Bipolar apes, and so is a country.
	We're a work in progress.
	We're a work in progress.
	This was called the grand experiment for a reason.
	It's still going on.
	The Constitution is a verb.
	The United States is a verb.
	It's an idea that continues to evolve.
	Okay.
	But I think the Founding Fathers solve the political problem.
	Okay.
	A little credit where it's due.
	The words you use, like feminism, individualism, universalism, humanism, all those words were invented by the people you're criticizing and by a system you're criticizing.
	The First Amendment, which you enjoy very much, and saying what you want and screaming, was fought for.
	It was fought for with blood and it had to be fought for as an idea and it had to be won as an idea.
	All those things that we benefit from every day.
	You may be a socialist, I respect you, but you're also tweeting from your iPhone.
	So a little respect for the marketplace as well, if you could, right?
	Let's be aware of where we came from.
	Let's be aware of the kind of foundation that was laid for us before we got here that we benefit from every single day.
	Because whether you know it or not, your anchor is in that bedrock.
	And thank God for it.
	Because the founding fathers, as far as I'm concerned, solved the political problem.
	You know who didn't?
	The Greeks and everybody else.
	So James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, you're talking about John Jay, you're talking about genius.
	The Federalist Papers is one of the or the greatest idea in philosophy.
	I'm sorry, it is.
	And why do I say that?
	Because we still live in the greatest country in the world.
	Because everybody has a chance.
	We still have potential.
	I need music when I'm talking.
	God bless.
	Well said.
	I need air.
	You will.
	I want air blowing my hair back.
	I mean, you should have been standing up with your hand on your heart.
	Listen, when you run it, it's a real problem.
	Dude, I was going to say, you went through, Caroline.
	Dude, I start going into a monologue because I become an actor.
	I get tired of my own voice.
	I was waiting for somebody to stop me.
	The American flag behind you waving.
	I love that.
	By the way, the speech, whatever that was amazing.
	Am I wrong?
	Not at all.
	My question is: what's your biggest issue with society today?
	Because it seems like you've got a bone to pick.
	Polarization.
	I'm afraid.
	I worry that nobody can even agree on where the truth is coming from.
	We never had that problem.
	That's new for me.
	And what I mean by that is back in the day, I could go, I heard it on the news, bro.
	And we go, well, the news is vetted.
	I trust the New York Times.
	It's like, oh, what did you hear it on CNN or Fox?
	My dad always said the New York Times was always lean left, but you still trust it as a source of information.
	There's no question.
	The New York Times was a trusted source of information.
	So was the Wall Street Journal, even though it had a much bigger reflection.
	For the audience that doesn't know, what did your dad do for a living?
	My dad was, I grew up all over the world.
	You know what I mean?
	I grew up all over the world.
	Wasn't he like a CIA?
	Hey, hey, whoa, hey.
	Hey, hey, we're talking about here.
	You keep waking up free every morning.
	You do what he does.
	Ray Liota just passed away.
	That's a little respect.
	My dad was a banker.
	Yeah.
	Worked at Citibank.
	And we lived in, I was born in the Philippines.
	I lived in Calcutta and then Bombay and then Lebanon, then Pakistan, then Lebanon again, then Greece, Saudi Arabia.
	Definitely a banker.
	Definitely a banker.
	My dad was a banker.
	I've seen this movie before.
	I've seen this movie.
	What do you guys think?
	Honey, what do you do for it?
	Why do you leave three months at a time?
	This is a big deal.
	Big private equity deal with war.
	A man can't do business in Beirut during war.
	So your dad said, even though New York Times has left, it's vetted.
	So you can trust.
	Yeah.
	And I think too, and I think now when I say something like, no, I heard it on Tucker Carlson or I heard it on CNN, I lose half the room because they go, they're liars.
	And I think that's a problem, right?
	The biggest maybe challenge that we face is that when you can no longer agree on one source of truth, you are going to have people that not only align themselves with their own echo chamber and align themselves with the kind of truth that fits their narrative, right?
	That confirmation bias, but you have an entire mechanism of information that allows you to get pushed even further in that direction or even further in this direction, right?
	And now you've got two, you have almost this cyber civil war that could happen.
	You get these parallel economies, and people have talked about this way more eloquently than I have.
	But it kind of harkens back to the phenomenon that allowed Europe to have a 40-year civil war.
	World War I and World War II was maybe, you could make the argument, an offshoot of the fact that truth itself became atomized.
	I mean, let me give you an example.
	It used to be there was no question about what time was.
	And along comes Einstein and says, time is relative.
	What?
	Oh, by the way, time might bend and light bends.
	And oh, I can predict the movement of the planets.
	You don't need the Bible for that, bro.
	Let me explain something.
	And Haley came along and said, yeah, Haley's coming.
	All of a sudden, we go, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
	That's kind of nutty.
	And then you have a guy named Freud who comes along and says, hey, you're unconscious and there's conscious.
	There's also something called the subconscious.
	And oh, by the way, you want to have sex with your mother.
	There you go.
	There you go, Europe.
	Deal with that.
	You want to have sex with your mother.
	Oh, and by the way, you're ruthless about your sexual selection.
	And then another guy comes along named Darwin and says, Hey, there's something called evolution.
	There's design without a designer.
	God doesn't exist.
	Don't need him.
	There's also something called sexual selection, and it's ruthless.
	Maybe women actually like the guy with the strongest jaw, the broadest shoulders, and the most aggression.
	And all of a sudden we go, hold on, but the meek shall inherit the earth.
	That's cool, dude.
	Yeah, you go adopt a three-legged dog.
	I'm getting a four-legged dog with a strong bite, and I want good guns.
	And that's why when Nietzsche said God is dead, what he meant was God may be dead, but human beings are religious anyway.
	And we're going to come up with our own religions.
	And our religions are going to be communism, fascism, capitalism.
	We're going to come up with our own religions.
	And the problem with that is that now you've got ideologies.
	And when you have ideologies, you have camps.
	And then you have charismatic people that have control of the guns that take over, like Stalin, like Hitler, right?
	Who say, this is the new truth.
	And oh, by the way, I'm going to reshape society as the utopia I envision.
	We can make human beings perfect.
	We can make society perfect.
	So you might be flawed now, but kiss my ass.
	I'm going to make all you perfect.
	And the ones who are, there are some people, by the way, who we can't educate.
	You guys are a little older.
	You got to go.
	You got to go.
	I can't.
	It's just business.
	I got to purify.
	I got to break a couple eggs to make an omelet.
	This is what happened.
	And so if you think that can't happen today, I would only say that I promise you, Stalin's Russia and Hitler's Germany said the exact same thing before they came to power.
	You know, it's like it could never happen here.
	Yeah, they said the same thing.
	I mean, that's a pretty bleak thing.
	Again, I need music.
	I need music.
	So you're very optimistic about the future.
	I actually am.
	Yeah.
	I think you are.
	I am.
	In your own dark way, you're optimistic that good things are around the corner.
	Well, because human beings figure their way through, men.
	Yeah.
	I'm just talking a lot, but people are like, people are aware of the things I'm saying.
	Like, you're not, are you more depressed now that I brought that up?
	No, you're like, no, not at all.
	Pat says all the time, the future looks bright.
	Future looks bright.
	So there's no one that's going to be.
	Tell me why you're, get me out of my why I think the future looks bright.
	Yeah.
	Oh, 1 million percent future looks bright because exactly what you went back to.
	You know, you know how you said the hall pass guys and the guys that the bully who bullied until he finally realized that you got the one kid you bullied to spend 10,000 hours learning how to fight.
	And then he came back and he not only whooped your ass, but you knew you could no longer cross.
	So what bullies don't realize they do is they create a Michael Jordan.
	They create a Dave Chappelle.
	They create a Joe Rogan.
	They create a Patrick Bet Dave.
	They create.
	They create any of those.
	Oh, of course, no question.
	I mean, bullying comes in different forms.
	Bullying is not just about being a kid.
	Bullying is, you know, somebody with money that, you know, their money came from family and maybe they're imposing themselves on you a little bit.
	And you're sitting there saying, dude, I would whoop your ass.
	And I'm going to outwork your ass.
	You're okay.
	No problem.
	Let's see what's going to happen here.
	And then you go out there and prove your point.
	Exactly.
	But I think the right people are waking up.
	Today, Kiyosaki and I had a Zoom.
	We're having a conversation.
	We're working on something together.
	And, you know, he says, hey, I think we need to have this guy on the podcast together.
	Me and you.
	This guy was in, I was in the Marines with him back in the days.
	And, you know, I screwed up.
	I got kicked out, but he didn't.
	He stayed in.
	He became a lieutenant general.
	And later on, became a congressman.
	And we both think that we need to raise men more today, et cetera, et cetera.
	He says, so how do you feel about today with everything that's going on?
	Because, you know, market crash is coming and it's going to be very ugly.
	Uglier than what people think is ugly.
	Is that true, dude?
	Oh, dude, uglier than what people think is next.
	Wow.
	If you have the ability, you're going to buy a lot of stocks so cheap right now.
	Did you see what Palantir's CEO was talking about?
	Did you see what happened to the Palantir's stock?
	Have you seen that or no?
	Tyler, did you see what happened to the Palantir stock?
	So, first of all, that's a good stock to own.
	It's going to go lower.
	Okay, Snapchat, did you see what it dropped to?
	In September, it was an $83 stock.
	Snapchat.
	It's a $13 stock.
	Damn.
	What?
	80% drop.
	Okay.
	So you got every one of these stocks you look at, where they're at right now, all of them.
	But it's going to get worse the next 12 to 18 months, maybe 24 months to market.
	House prices are going to drop 20 to 40% in the next 12 to 24 months.
	House price is going to drop the next 12 to 24 months.
	So what do we do?
	It's going to happen.
	What do I do?
	It's the people, the people that are prepared are going to go and add, they're going to take their net worth and do 5 to 50 times in the next two to five years.
	Five to 50 times.
	You're going to see guys, and I'm telling you right now, you're going to see million-dollar guys be $100 million guys the next two to five years.
	You're going to see $10 million guys be billionaires in the next two to five years, the ones who are ready.
	But you're also going to see the highly leveraged $200 million guy become a $17 million guy.
	Damn.
	You're going to see the highly leveraged $18 million guy become a $600,000 guy.
	Damn.
	Again, my opinion, this is coming from me purely as an opinion.
	You can trash it.
	You can break it apart.
	Do whatever you're doing.
	However, I thought you were going to be bright.
	Fisher looks bright, but this is the part.
	This is the part.
	This is the other end of the railway.
	The part that's bright, unfortunately, every once in a while, pruning is needed.
	Every once in a while, just like the forest has got a lot of trees, itself creates fire to, you know, and then next thing you know, the ones at the bottom that are really the ones that are going to be the stronger, powerful trees, they're the ones that needed the sun.
	They're going to come up and be better and beyond.
	Like even right now, you look at sports every time play.
	Like, look at Luca.
	Luca's Larry Bird, but except five times better.
	You look at a lot of these guys that are coming up in every sport, in every business, in every game, podcast, comedy, in every way, someone's going to come and do it better because what they have is tens of thousands of hours of people that did it before them.
	They're just going to make it better.
	Oh, there's no question about it.
	Podcasting.
	Everybody's like, oh, these liberals, look, it created an entire economy.
	The Daily Wire wouldn't exist.
	At all.
	And you're podcasting.
	People are making a fortune, pushing back with either reasonableness or a right-wing.
	When one door closes, another one else closes.
	By the way, you know who wholeheartedly agrees with you?
	Who?
	Maybe just the founder, CEO type guy of Tesla and now Twitter, Elon Musk.
	You know what he?
	I don't know if he founded Tesla, but what did he have to say about this?
	He said exactly what you're saying.
	Tyler, you have that article?
	What was your business, Patrick?
	Insurance.
	Till today.
	I still are an insurance company.
	We have 20,000 agents nationwide.
	It sounds good.
	We have 150 offices.
	I'll put an event together in August in Las Vegas.
	We'll have 15,000 people there.
	Sebastian was the performer last year at my annual convention.
	That's amazing.
	And he came up.
	He was freaking hilarious.
	That's amazing.
	Mario Lopez was our MC.
	You know, we had a lot of money.
	But yeah, you're a guy I listen to because you're an insurance.
	I mean, you're about risking all insurance.
	There's no emotional worry.
	No.
	So I'm listening to you very crazy.
	No, of course.
	I don't care about Elon Musk.
	I care about a guy who's actually doing that.
	No, but I'm saying Elon Musk kind of knows a thing or two about the economy.
	Well, Patrick, what would you say?
	I know you guys want to get what would you say to somebody that isn't a millionaire, doesn't have 100 million, doesn't have 20 million.
	Let's say a family that has, let's say, 20, 30,000 saved.
	What would you tell that family to do right now?
	I love that.
	Great question.
	But check this out.
	What have we valued the last two years?
	How do you know who is legit the last five years?
	How?
	How the hell do you know?
	You know how they say we have an economic expansion of 128 months?
	No, we haven't.
	We've had an economic expansion of nearly 150 months, 140 months.
	Take COVID out.
	If you took COVID out and they kept rates at zero or half a point, Federal Reserve, this economic expansion would have continued past February of 2020, right?
	So what happens when the economy is growing?
	How do you know who's a real millionaire?
	Like, how do you know people are leveraged?
	Yeah, how do you know?
	You don't know.
	How do you know who's the real comedian?
	How do you know who's the real?
	There's a filtering process that we all got to go through, right?
	That's right.
	Okay.
	So the only way you know the filtering process is during bat seasons.
	That is the only way you're going to know who's real and who's not.
	The foundations are stronger.
	So the last two years, everybody's like, dude, forget about it.
	Just go get your own job.
	Go to the other companies.
	You guys don't want to pay you.
	That guy's going to pay 30 grand.
	Ask him for a raise.
	If they don't leave him, tell them to work from home.
	Tell them to work remote.
	Tell them to rejoin or give them a threat.
	They'll have to give it to you.
	I'll have to keep you.
	Give all that stuff.
	And you know what's happened the last two years?
	Employers who've been bullied are sitting there and saying, damn, never in my life have I valued loyalty and actually keeping your word when you say you're going to do something more than before.
	Wow.
	So companies are going to take care of those guys because the last two years, all the people that abuse companies are getting filtered out.
	Wow.
	And it's going to be so freaking ugly.
	So ugly.
	Here's another one.
	If you leverage too much money and you know you shouldn't have, and you were banking on the market continuously going up, there's this thing called risk.
	You may have a good hit and good for you.
	You may make $5, $10, $15, $20 million.
	But if you overly leverage with the whole thing we're talking margin call, if you overly went aggressive, there's a lot of billionaires today who were one quarter away from being poor and broke.
	There's a lot of billionaires today.
	There's a lot of billionaires who the market went their side.
	They sold at the right time.
	They bought at the right time.
	They leverage at the whole time.
	Do you buy stocks?
	I've been since 21 years old.
	I was a stockbroker.
	I was at Bally's.
	I was a stockbroker.
	But, you know, so today, next two years, you're asking that person, if you're the person that's not the person with money, dude, wherever you are, build the reputation of somebody that's going to come through, show value, show loyalty, show expertise, increase your skill set.
	The market is going to see through the bullshit the next two years.
	I swear to God.
	The next two years, everyone's going to know, dude, this guy's not worth 50.
	We got to pay this guy 80.
	You know what?
	This advisor is not worth the commission we're paying.
	He deserves more money than what he's doing with my money because he was honest with me.
	It's like it comes down to what we were talking about, like coming into contact with objective reality.
	Yes.
	Right?
	Like, you either, it's what I love about fighting, comedy.
	It's really true.
	Comedy and fighting, you can't fake them.
	You either make people laugh or you don't.
	When you're in a ring and I'm watching a guy, it doesn't matter who your publicist is, who your agent is, or what they say about you.
	You either got the goods or you're getting knocked out.
	And life, business.
	It's a scary situation.
	It's that way, right?
	Oh, it's a scary site.
	It's a scary, but it's again, it's a scary site, but it's a great filtering site.
	Yeah.
	And if you're good with it, you're fine.
	If you're prepared, you're fine.
	If you're not, you're not.
	But this next two years, two, three years, this two to five year run that I'm talking about, for you and I, we may never have another two to five year like this.
	I don't think its conditions are going to be as great as it is right now to create wealth the next two to five years.
	And by the way, I'm not selling buy real estate.
	I'm not selling by insurance.
	I'm not selling anything.
	All I'm saying is the next two to five years, there's going to be a lot of things for sale.
	And everyone's all of a sudden going to come up, the filtering system, you're going to say, dude, I had no clue that guy was real.
	I had no idea that guy was real.
	You know, the whole thing when you said, you know, like, if I had a book to write, a self-help book, it'd be one page and the page will be what?
	It takes forever.
	It takes forever.
	Well, guess what?
	You know, this we're looking around and we're wondering, oh, that guy's probably a legit guy.
	Oh, that guy's probably a legit guy.
	It's going to take about 20 years.
	But it's going to take about 20 years for us to realize who the real legit people are in every field.
	In every field.
	In every field.
	And the next two to five years, we're going to learn who actually manages your money and who didn't.
	It'll create opportunity, too.
	Fortunes are made in recessions, right?
	All the time.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Please text me at Brian.
	Like, buy this.
	All the time.
	I love that.
	I appreciate that.
	That's very interesting.
	This is a quote from Musk.
	Let me know if you agree.
	He says, it's actually a good thing that this recession that you're talking about is going to happen.
	It says it's a good thing.
	He says it's been raining money on fools for too long, and some bankruptcies need to happen.
	That's essentially what you're saying.
	I so agree with him.
	I so agree with them.
	The whole too big to fail.
	You know how sometimes the left says, well, how about the too big to fail?
	I agree.
	But this time we can't fucking bail them out.
	Let them go.
	Let them go a little bit.
	Let the pruning process come.
	Let some of these guys that are not good operators get fired.
	You remember what Shamat said about the airport?
	Remember when the COVID just hit?
	They started bailing out all the airlines.
	Shamat Palapati, and he goes, let him fucking fail.
	And everyone's like, what do you mean, let him fail?
	What do you mean?
	Yeah, let them fail the marketplace.
	Because everyone did their stock buybacks right before the Trump tax cut.
	And all these guys who had an influx of cash, all these major corporations, airlines, what have you, what'd they all do?
	They bought back stock, right?
	Did you see the crypto?
	And then they were just not solid.
	Did you see the Bitcoin thing falling and all this?
	Oh, it's 29.
	By the way, go back to this one.
	A Bitcoin margin call.
	If the world's leading cryptocurrency drops below $21,000, Michael Saylor's micro strategy will be forced to pay up.
	Go up.
	What does that mean?
	Okay, so he bought 170,000 Bitcoins, I believe.
	125,000, 170,000 Bitcoin.
	So Michael Sanders, Saylor, an MIT grad, and the co-founder and CEO of the Business Intelligence Roman Faithfully has ever since company began stockpiling the cryptocurrency in August of 2020.
	The CEO has gone for as to call Bitcoin freedom as the most universally desirable property in space and time.
	And in 2022, Miami, the largest Bitcoin event worldwide, Saylor was met by thousands of cheering fans as he instructed the crowd to never sell their crypto.
	And look at the dollar amount right there.
	$3.97 billion.
	He bought 129,000 Bitcoins.
	Do you see that?
	Can you highlight that?
	129.
	By the way, he's not wrong about Bitcoin.
	So it's not like he's wrong about the tech.
	No, he's not wrong about that.
	This guy's made and lost a few times in his career.
	I think back in the 90s, he was worth $9 billion.
	And he went back to a billion and back up to $7 billion and back then.
	You know who Michael Burry is?
	You know who Michael Burry is?
	30,000 employees.
	You ever watch the movie Big Short?
	Big Short.
	I read the book.
	Good book.
	Okay, so you know the guy Christian Bill.
	That's a real life Michael Burry.
	Okay.
	Michael Burry and this guy have very similar ways of he was the guy who saw the mathematician.
	But Michael Burry right now.
	Have you seen what Michael Burry said last week?
	Did you see what Michael Burry said last week?
	No, you got to pull out what Michael Burry said last week.
	Michael Burry is calling it, it's okay.
	Yeah, that one right there, two days ago.
	Can you click on it?
	Big short investor Michael Burry compares the stock market slump to a plane crash and hints troubling stocks and home sales remind him of the housing bubble bursting.
	I'm listening to that guy.
	Well, let me tell you, you know how long he's been saying this?
	Every freaking year since 2008.
	Same as Kiyosaki called for the same thing.
	I don't know if he's been saying it every year since 2008.
	No, no.
	Some of these guys talk shit.
	No, don't do that because this is not that guy.
	Michael Burry's not that guy.
	Michael Burry, remember the one time Joe got upset at Stephen A. Smith because he was giving feedback to UFC and is like, dude, what are you doing?
	Don't do that again.
	And he says, I will never do that again because the guy's not from this world.
	This is not basketball.
	This is not football.
	Joe knows the world.
	Joe gives criticism.
	Joe has the right.
	You better listen to when Joe says it, right?
	Because this is his world.
	Michael Burry is not a guy.
	Try inviting Michael Burry.
	Pay him 200 grand to speak at your event.
	See what he'll say.
	It'll be a disaster.
	No, no, no.
	He won't take your money because he's not that guy.
	Invite him to a podcast.
	He'll say no.
	He doesn't give a shit about the eyeballs.
	This isn't that wiring of a guy.
	This is the genius.
	He's got that Tourette's thing or that Aspen.
	Asburst guy.
	He's one of those guys.
	So when he says that, he has not been saying this since then.
	This is a guy that said this in 07, 06, came right.
	And then everything's leveled off, and now he's saying it back again.
	But he's been saying it, Adam, for the last two years.
	That's something.
	But not since, oh, wait, there's a big difference.
	Oh, he said it in 08.
	For the last two years, he's been saying it.
	There's a gap of 10 years that he didn't say it.
	I'm not going back 10 years.
	This is a function of so much money in the quantitative.
	He's a big success.
	Just think about it this way, okay?
	Somebody does steroids, and you go out there and do a bunch of stuff, and you see a guy like, shit, what happened to this guy?
	This guy's 160.
	He's at 205.
	I've never seen you look like this.
	And you got friends that are gradually getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, but it takes like a year, two years, three years, five years.
	Okay, cool.
	But the guy that suddenly who's not working out and comes in and adds everything and it goes to 205 from 160, you're sitting there saying, dude, the moment you can no longer afford a grand a month or two grand a month, or you have to get off the cycle, and then your body shrinks up and you get to the yellow skin and you look very awkward and weird.
	And then now you have to get back on it or try to filter it out of your body for six months to 12 months.
	America is about to go through that phase.
	My dad used to always call it the difference between style and substance.
	It's just, you know, substance is the difference.
	You can dress yourself up and look great.
	You can act like you're rich.
	You can spend a lot of money on a Ferrari.
	You can work it out and have a great house.
	But how much money do you have in the bank?
	You know, it's the same thing.
	And how good is this business, really?
	Are you providing a product people actually really want to use?
	Is it making the world better?
	Well, how's your NFT collection working out for you?
	This stuff never made sense to me.
	I don't even know.
	I still don't know what it means.
	I never understood.
	Did you get any of that stuff?
	Or do you have an NFT?
	No?
	I don't know.
	You don't have like a product?
	I bought one Bitcoin just to see what was going on in some Ethereum.
	I was like, let me see what happens.
	Did you hold on to it?
	Yeah, but I never, I never.
	Your board eight yacht club NFT ain't working out?
	Look at it.
	A lot of people, by the way, you know, you're talking about the whole metaverse thing.
	Did you see the story that just came out?
	Pretty crazy story about metaverse.
	Check this out.
	So women, 21 years old, is virtually raped by a stranger in metaverse app May 26th yesterday, right?
	Yeah.
	And you read the story of what direction we're going to.
	So page three, let me read this full article to you.
	Okay.
	A woman was virtually raped by a stranger in Meta Horizon Worlds Metaverse app while another user watched and passed around a bottle of vodka.
	New reports claims about an hour into using the platform, the avatar was sexually assaulted during a disorientating and confusing experience.
	The researcher said it happened so fast, I kind of was disassociated.
	One part of my brain was like, what the hell is going on?
	The other part was, this isn't a real body.
	And another part was like, this is important research.
	Horizon Worlds was released by Meta in December and allows users to gather with others, play games, and build their own virtual worlds.
	You know, this sounds weird to us, let's just say, right?
	Because I'm 43 and, you know, I'm seeing this happening.
	But this is very real where we're going.
	Of course.
	This is the direction we're going, right?
	So it's going to be the scariest part about this is if this becomes a crime, I was just going to say this.
	If this becomes a crime, then the way to be able to manipulate crime later on, I mean, it just opens it up a little bit too much.
	Yeah, like, is there going to be like a, now that this has happened, do they go like to court and like, does this meta?
	No, I don't think you can do that.
	But what I think is interesting is that I had somebody say this, this is not my idea, so I don't want to steal it.
	But they said anybody who's buying property on the metaverse is kind of a fool because you can't put a value on an infinite supply of something.
	The metaverse, you know, sick point.
	There's an infinite supply.
	There's an infinite supply.
	All it takes is another algorithm.
	Guys are selling.
	A guy sent me a message yesterday saying, I got a special land for you for sale.
	If you want, I'll make, I'll let you make the first offer.
	My number is 2.4 million.
	I said, yeah, I'm good, bro.
	You know, I wish you all the best.
	He said this about the metaverse?
	Yeah, he's trying to sell me land for 2.4 million.
	A big NFC guy says, I'll sell it to you for $2.4 million.
	This is going to be $5 million property.
	I'm like, I'm good.
	I'm totally fine.
	It's gambling.
	There might be people.
	I mean, I know people who have made real money off NFTs and metadata.
	But that's all because it's just like crypto.
	That's all because even though there isn't much of a, like, if you have Bitcoin, if you want to buy a child or a lot of drugs or a nuclear weapon, I suppose Bitcoin would work.
	But for the most part, there's still not really enough.
	There's not a real economy that is girding this or undergirding, whatever the word is.
	But I do think that isn't, isn't, and I don't know, but isn't Bitcoin and all these cryptocurrencies they are valued because a lot of people are buying them just in case.
	But by the way, what he just said has led to a research.
	I don't know if you saw the article on how crypto Bitcoin is matching with what the stock market does.
	Meaning the pattern is now whatever the market does, 79 out of 93 days, if the stock went up, Bitcoin went up.
	If the stock market went down, Bitcoin went down.
	Did you see that article that was texted to you?
	Did you see that article or no?
	Kai sent it to us.
	I don't know if you got it or not.
	It's a very, very.
	I thought Bitcoin and crypto was supposed to be an uncorrelated asset.
	I thought it wasn't supposed to be tied.
	Did you read this article?
	No, I haven't.
	Okay, so it shows, Kai, if you're listening, I don't know if he's listening or not, if he can text it to us, but it matches exactly with what the stock market did.
	That article right there, Bitcoin is acting like the stock market, and that's not 2018.
	Hey, Kai, do you know the article you sent me about how Bitcoin and stock market are correlating?
	Can you text it to me?
	I just sent him a text right now through audio, but it shows.
	So that right there is not a good sign, by the way.
	That's not good.
	Because if it's mainstreamer.
	Yeah, then it's not good.
	So then, but the part of it that the Bitcoin community can say it's good is what?
	Well, guess what?
	We're legitimate.
	No, no, no.
	Yeah, we're not only legitimate, bring some of the bigger money.
	Because it's like, it's the same thing as stock market.
	Bring that in.
	But then you lose your identity of being, you know, we're own, you know, we're own.
	Libertarian.
	We got our own.
	It goes back to what you were saying, though.
	It goes back to the fact that, okay, you're saying this is valued at X, okay?
	But where is the exchange of goods and services?
	You know, the dollar, I can understand, even though we have quantitative easing and stuff, but for the most part.
	You and I decide that, though.
	The market decides the value of Bitcoin.
	And by the way, I'm not a big, I have Bitcoin and have Ethereum, but I'm not a guy that's going around telling everybody go buy Bitcoin.
	But all I'm saying is the market will determine it.
	What's crazy the last couple of years is that gold is no longer what it was because like right now, what is a price of gold, a kilo of gold right now, Tyler, if you type in a price of gold, kilo, what is it right now?
	57,000?
	That's a guess.
	59,550, my price is 61,000.
	Okay.
	So if it went based on what the market was doing, it should be $100,000.
	It should be $80,000.
	But the patterns of how gold reacts to what happens to the market is not happening.
	That $15.54, Peter Schiff has been saying that's going to be $5,000 for 20 years.
	It's eventually going to get to $5,000.
	So he's eventually going to say, I told you I was right, but 20 years too late of saying I was right, right?
	So there's certain things that's confusing.
	I think the next two years, you almost need the next two years to see what moves, what doesn't.
	So everyone's going to know if Bitcoin goes one direction and then, you know, interest rates go up, Bitcoin goes up, but stock market goes down.
	That's when the Bitcoin community, right there, look at that.
	Bitcoin has been trading with the stock market this year.
	Okay.
	What's the day that he has?
	Did he just text it to you?
	What's the number of days?
	Look at U.S. dollars.
	Crazy, dude.
	Look at that.
	Look how close it is.
	Wow.
	Look how close it is.
	That means people are being careful, isn't it?
	Isn't that because people don't have as much confidence and they want to link it to something that's been proven to be real for a long time?
	You mean with Bitcoin or the stock market?
	Bitcoin.
	They're calling it digital gold right now.
	Okay, go to that article.
	That's the one I want to read.
	Okay.
	Can you make it a little bigger?
	Bitcoin has often been linked to a digital version of gold, which for years has been safe haven asset, known as a thrusty store of value, trusty store of value when times have been more uncertain.
	But the evidence for Bitcoin fulfilling a similar role is hard to find in this year at least.
	Indeed, the data of 2022 suggests the price of Bitcoin often moves in the same direction as stocks rather than the opposite.
	Of the 98 trading days we've had so far, Bitcoin and S ⁇ P 500 index have moved in the same direction, 73 of them.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	So I want to know what the Bitcoin community says to that while moving in the opposite direction only 25 times.
	The biggest moves in the stocks like the U.S. stocks fell 3.2% on my 9th.
	Also came the largest moves of Bitcoin for the stats nerds.
	The correlation between the two has been plus 0.53.
	Interesting.
	How are you processing that?
	How should it be moving?
	Differently?
	So you're not unique.
	You are the stock market.
	You're not unique.
	You don't.
	So versus what I would have wanted to see is if the market goes down the next six, 12 months and they raise interest rates, I'd like to see, if I'm a pro-Bitcoin guy, I would want to see Bitcoin go up.
	I'd want it to go up to $60,000, $70,000, $80,000, $90,000.
	If it does, they have the argument.
	The same way as if gold goes up the next 12 to 18 months, because gold is the Armageddon sale, right?
	The world's coming to an end.
	You better own some gold.
	Brian, you got to put it aside.
	5% of your portfolio, go buy some gold and set it aside.
	But if it doesn't go that way, then the gold audience that's selling gold, their argument is kind of their own investors are going to be like, hey, John, you told me the last eight years, if the interest rates go up, gold's going to go to $5,000.
	It's still at $1,550.
	What the hell is going on?
	Well, you know what's different about this time?
	They lose the argument.
	Let me ask you this.
	Yeah.
	Personality types.
	Who makes more money, do you think, usually, pessimists or optimists?
	Does the pessimist start with money?
	Do either start with money or because I had a meeting with the founder, with the son of Moody.
	You know the Moody's family?
	You ever heard of Moody's, Moody's, Moody's?
	They're all over the place in Texas?
	And I had a meeting with the guy and I went and pitched him an opportunity 11 years ago.
	I said, here's what I think we can do.
	We can make billions.
	And I was done with my presentation.
	He says, Patrick, there's two types of people in the world.
	There are those that wake up every morning wanting to make their first billion.
	And there are those that wake up every morning wanting to protect their billions.
	You're group one, I'm group two.
	Oh, really?
	That's great.
	So he's throwing away.
	You have to be an optimist to make a million.
	You've got to take your pessimist when you already made it.
	That's a great story.
	So it depends.
	That's probably why you become conservative when you have that much money and you're wild, man, when you're young.
	Yeah.
	When you get older, you're like, dude.
	Think about why.
	Think about conservatives.
	Conservatives are there to preserve what we have.
	And liberals are there to be like, let's start something new, bro.
	Progressives, they want to be a bad man.
	You should be a money manager.
	You'd be one hell of a money man.
	You'd crack up your clients and say, look, you know what?
	I wasn't going to give you the other 20 million, but here it is.
	You're going to make no money, but I'll make you laugh.
	You're too emotional.
	By the way, are you following the Amber Hurts story?
	Are you following?
	It's my favorite TV story.
	Really?
	It's my favorite.
	Okay, so so far, with all the craziness, you saw, by the way, what's her name?
	Camille Vasquez has officially become a BMF.
	People are in love with this girl.
	38-year-old lawyer.
	What I want to know is, how the hell did he find her?
	Like, what did that show up?
	That was apparently a very deliberate choice because they said that the two lawyers are big guys.
	They're guys your size, apparently.
	And if you had a big man asking these very hard questions to a beautiful woman who's crying, you would look like a bully.
	Let's get a very smart, small.
	What a strategic team.
	When you're Johnny Depp and you get that team, I promise you, they're the best.
	I know some of these people, you know, in Hollywood who deal with this.
	The guys that make it to the top, those lawyers, they are deep, deep students of human nature.
	So here's my question.
	Dude, not everybody's defamation.
	I know it's them, but do they have to agree?
	And like, it's going to be televised and it's going to be on every single day.
	Like, what?
	What makes that?
	Look, this case rests on the first half of the sentence, the first sentence of that article.
	Yeah.
	I became the face of domestic violence.
	The idea was you wrote that and then you orchestrated your follow-up plan to essentially destroy someone's career.
	And the case really is, the lawyer's case is, we're going to prove that everything you said is not true, right?
	You're making this stuff up.
	We don't have, there's no pattern of this in his history or anything else.
	All of a sudden, you came along and said that.
	I mean, if you listen to those tapes, it's like she's saying, I can't help it.
	I get so mad.
	I can't promise I won't hit you.
	Yeah, I wasn't hitting you, Johnny.
	I don't know what my hand is.
	I didn't punch you.
	I was hitting you.
	All that big difference.
	So all of us just go, I'm sorry, but people are like, why does the internet hate Amber Heard?
	Well, most of us, the people who don't have a dog in this race are like, dude, I just don't buy it.
	I don't believe you.
	I don't believe the letter that you're referring to.
	She wrote that she was the face of domestic violence.
	She wrote an article for the Washington Post that basically said, if you look at the first sentence, I think it was really about whether or not she was, this was a defamation.
	I spoke up against sexual violence, faced our culture's wrath.
	That has to change.
	And then I was exposed to abuse at a very young age, blah, There's a sentence that they're using.
	Now you have to prove whether or not everything she's saying is a lie.
	Let me ask you a question then.
	Oh, yeah, there it is.
	Two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse.
	That's where I believe it's hinging on.
	You said that you were abused, and then you filed a restraining order.
	And I will say this.
	If you file a restraining order in Los Angeles, you don't need to go down there personally with your publicist.
	If you file for divorce, you don't have to go down there personally.
	You don't do that.
	A lawyer does that for you.
	A clerk does that for you.
	So why was she down there, you know, without makeup on that cheek?
	And also, if you heard the TMZ guy, he goes, well, we have to vet who has the copyright for any video we get.
	And it'll take up to a day or a week.
	In this case, it took 15 minutes because it came from, quote unquote, the source.
	It was her fault.
	Well, it came directly from her.
	I saw that.
	I mean, come on.
	If it took 15 minutes, TMZ was like, oh.
	Well, Brian.
	And we're supposed to believe all women.
	Yeah, except for Ghislaine Maxwell.
	Well, the woman from Faranos.
	I was just going to say, how are you processing this believe all women?
	How are you categorizing it?
	I have a big problem with any of that.
	Well, any blanket statement.
	And can I say one thing, though?
	Look at what Americans love this type of like this trial.
	Where's Ghelaine Maxwell?
	What happened to that whole?
	I would rather see that trial than watch this.
	I hate to be that guy.
	Where's she at now?
	The last time you heard of Ghelane Maxwell.
	Yeah, no, no, no, I know.
	Where's she at?
	Depp was the one who wanted the cameras in the courtroom.
	Oh, really?
	She didn't.
	And he knew he's his sister.
	By the way, look, man, that guy's a nightmare, too.
	Okay.
	I don't think he was, I don't think he hit her and did it again.
	But that guy spent 30 years high, high, and drunk off his hat.
	Nightmare.
	He was Jack Sparrow in real life.
	He dressed like a pirate all the time.
	Look, if I came in, bro, with a lace doily around my head, a cowboy hat and 15 bandanas, you'd go, Brian, take it off right now.
	Come on.
	But he's an RP.
	I know, bro.
	But you got to have friends who are like, hey, dude, you're dressed like 13 bracelets.
	But that's who Johnny Depp is.
	You're 60.
	Just because he's Captain Jack Sparrow drinking rum on a cruise on a pirate ship doesn't mean that he's beating women.
	In acting class, I took it for years.
	In acting, you learn the most important thing, which is what?
	Learn how to be still.
	Learn to give nothing away.
	Let the audience...
	I never learned this, by the way.
	Not even close to the board student.
	Let the audience reach for you.
	Brando.
	Brando's the first guy who just even mumbles words.
	Back then, you always had to enunciate.
	You learned how to stand straight and you spoke this way.
	You were an actor.
	That was very important.
	Brando came along.
	When he walked on stage in London, he came on stage and he was talking like Stanley Kowalski when he was doing Street Carnegie Besaire.
	In London, they thought a drunk stagehand had walked on stage.
	They were like, what's going on?
	Oh my God, somebody's storming the stage.
	And they realized he was in it.
	They saw his muscles and they saw he was actually sweating for real because he used to work out.
	The first Method actor.
	In London, they were cheering.
	The story goes, they were screaming.
	The women were screaming at that curtain call.
	Screaming.
	He changed all of it.
	Robert De Niro, Robert Duvall, those guys, you know who their hero was?
	Brando.
	Brand, of course.
	Brando.
	So, you know, Depp is a master actor, dude.
	He seduced all of us by barely moving.
	It takes him a half hour to get one sentence out.
	One.
	One sentence.
	He's like, it was mo.
	What?
	That's all he says.
	We're like, dude, I need to hear more.
	Is it true?
	You had a pint of wine?
	A mega pint.
	A mega pint.
	I had a large glass of wine.
	I felt it very necessary.
	Who's your favorite?
	You continue.
	Yes, you continue to read that correctly.
	He barely raises his voice.
	How much was he spending on wine?
	He even admitted it.
	30 grand a month.
	30 grand a month.
	That's as much as Patrick David does.
	Your accents are amazing.
	You do great accents, okay?
	Who are your favorite people to do these days?
	I mean, I've always, if I really want to, I can do, you know, that's a hacky thing.
	But yeah, I've always loved Chris Walken.
	And I'll do Christopher Walken as a pigeon for you.
	I'm only going to do it once.
	Okay.
	This is shame.
	One of my favorite guys, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Well, the story goes, a true story that he walked in to my, I think it was, I can't remember that, Randy Pearlstein, who was a comic, and he tells this story.
	He's telling on stage.
	So I'm stealing it from him.
	And he said, Walking walked up to them.
	I don't know if it's true, but he was drunk and he walked up to them.
	They're all hanging out.
	And they're all just a bunch of actors who were in this movie called Search and Destroy.
	And he walks in and they're all like, oh, shit, Chris Walken.
	And he goes, and he's tall.
	He's about 6'3, 6'4.
	And he goes, you guys, you know what fame is.
	Fame is knowing you could walk into a room, fuck anyone in the ass.
	That's fame.
	And he walked away.
	And they're like, what?
	What happened?
	And then he's dancing with an actress like this.
	And he's doing this.
	And apparently he'll look over his shoulder and go, the ass.
	I hope that story is true, but it was a great story.
	I hope that story is true.
	Yeah.
	You want to see my impression of Chris Walking as a pigeon?
	Go.
	This is fucking so cocky.
	I should have my comedy license revoked.
	This is bull.
	I apologize.
	I'm defaming Chris Walking as a pigeon.
	Cool.
	Bread.
	I got bread on my mind.
	Sourdough.
	Cool.
	Thank you very much, everybody.
	Thank you very much.
	Very impressive.
	Very impressive.
	Come on, dude.
	That's high-level acting.
	I just discredited myself.
	Buy Bitcoin, guys.
	That's the point I'm trying to make.
	Oh, my God.
	By the way, when you were in Hangover.
	And I know people are going to be like, the shitty walk-in fuck off.
	I wasn't even trying.
	It was a great walk-in.
	Did you guys party out on when you went to Hangover?
	Was it just kind of like work?
	Was it purely work?
	Work.
	All work.
	Nobody knew that movie was going to be a big deal.
	You're joking.
	Bradley, I'd known Bradley and Zach Alfanakis and all those guys.
	Nobody knew the movie was going to be.
	No.
	I'd known Bradley Cooper for five years before that.
	I knew Zach Alfanakis for 10 years before that.
	It was a little movie.
	You know, I was asked to come in and, you know, I knew Todd Phillips, the director, and the guy was supposed to be from New York talking like this.
	You know, you don't remember me?
	I'm Eddie.
	How could you not remember?
	He was all over.
	Yeah, he's from the Bronx in New York.
	And I was the one that I said, look, dude, if the dude, and I even said this, because you'll appreciate this, I said, if he's in Vegas and he owns a wedding chapel, he should be from Armenia or Lebanon or something like that.
	You know, I can get you anything you want, my friend.
	Divorce.
	It's a bit divorce.
	I can get you another ride.
	Divorce guns.
	I can get you chicks.
	Whatever you need, my friend.
	I can get you one.
	So he loved that.
	And that was how it happened.
	But when we did the movie, bro, it was like, you know, I mean, I tell this story, you know, it's so funny because Bradley and I were walking through I think Caesar's Palace and a group of tourists wanted to take a picture with the guy from Mad TV.
	What?
	You want to know who held the camera and took the picture?
	Wow.
	Blue eyes.
	Nobody knew him.
	Wow.
	It wasn't Sack Lodge.
	I remember when Limitless was the movie they were watching to see if he could pull it off.
	And he did.
	That was a great movie.
	That was a sick movie.
	But that guy.
	NZT.
	Yeah.
	But he loves acting.
	Bradley loves acting.
	I just saw, because of Ray Leoder, you mentioned it.
	I watched Goodfellas last night, probably.
	I'm not joking.
	For the 50th time.
	And while I was in the gym today, there's a documentary where with Scorsese and the writing with Nick Peledgy.
	Yeah, everything.
	And then Henry Hill, the real Henry Hill, he was in Witness Protection.
	He couldn't come on the set, but he would, Rob De Niro would call him in the morning five, six times and go, hey, how did this guy hold a cigarette?
	How did he talk?
	How did he pour the ketchup?
	How did he get goosebumps right now?
	And then, God rest the soul, dude.
	Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be a gangster.
	You got your favorite movies?
	Goodfellas has got to be one of them.
	The man on fire is Godfather to John Q. You talk to all these guys, have you?
	Sammy the Bull?
	Sammy the Bull.
	I was pretty fascinated with him.
	He's the only gangster that I was really taken with because I knew who he was back in the day because I was in New York then and he was terrifying, you know.
	But he just seems like a very intelligent guy who had, if it wasn't for his dyslexia, would probably be a huge entrepreneur, would probably be a guy who made a fortune.
	Like, I know it's crazy to say this, but I get the feeling that even though he was a killer, he lived by that code of the samurai.
	I look at him as more of a samurai.
	You know, people who kill people are, you know, gangsters are bad people, right?
	They just, I don't like it.
	There's something about that guy I feel like he was just more of a modern day Miyamoto Masashi, like a samurai who lived by the sword and was always ready to die by the sword.
	That's my feeling.
	I may be wrong.
	I don't know.
	What was your impression?
	I mean, Sammy is, till today, he is still to the core proud mafioso.
	He'll tell you when we spend those three days in the mountains and we did the Mafia States America with him and Michael Francis.
	You spent three days with him.
	Oh, yeah.
	In the mountains.
	In the mountains.
	With.
	That was the one we did with Rudy Giuliani and we had Chas Palmenteri do the narration.
	Wow.
	How was it so fat?
	Security-wise, what's the security?
	Oh, we had to have security.
	How much bananas?
	They both asked to bring their own people.
	Is that true?
	They're each – the people that they brought on each site, you know, it's like they're – They're people people?
	They brought their own people.
	Oh, wow.
	So you have to, because I'm asking them to come to the top of a mountain at a house that matches identical to the house from Godfather 2.
	Oh, wow.
	Helicopter comes down.
	Yeah, it's.
	Oh, there you are.
	Look at this house.
	Oh, yeah, they went at it, bro.
	They were partnering with each other.
	It was a great.
	Were you nervous about that?
	No, because I've already done a lot of stuff with both of them.
	First time I talked, I called Sammy.
	It was a year and a half after the Michael Francis interview.
	So I call Sammy.
	He gets out of jail.
	One of the girls, Jessica, gets his number.
	And I call him.
	I say, hey, Sammy, this is Patrick B. David.
	Who the fuck is this?
	I said, Patrick B. David, I conducted the interview with Michael Francis.
	So you the mother, so you did the interview.
	You realize Michael wasn't a boss.
	He was a couple, and I'm an underboss.
	And he got all technical.
	So he went two hours furious about the interview.
	And then I said, Sammy, just meet with me.
	He says, no.
	I said, Sammy, let's just have a meeting.
	I'd like to interview.
	He says, no.
	The only person that's ever interviewed me is Diane Sawyer, 1994, got 20 million views.
	I'm not doing any more interviews.
	Wow.
	So I said, why don't I just come fly?
	He says, no.
	Hangs up.
	I said, okay, I'm going to follow up because I'm a sales guy.
	So I'm going to follow up.
	I love it, John.
	Followed up, followed up.
	Mafia.
	Followed up.
	And finally, who's this?
	Sammy, it's Patrick.
	Why are you calling again?
	And then anyway, so we talked.
	Finally, you know, he agreed to meet in Phoenix.
	So I fly into Phoenix and he says, I'll give you an address last minute when you guys get here.
	So we get an address.
	We go to this place and a guy comes to the front.
	He says, here, let me take you to the back.
	We're walking, Place gets darker.
	Walking.
	Oh, God.
	It's me and Mario.
	Mario says, is today the last day I'm living?
	I said, no, buddy, just relax.
	You're never going to leave this place.
	So we get to the place.
	We sit down and then Sammy shows up and he starts talking.
	He shakes your hands.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	He starts asking questions, but the entire time he's just watching your body language, what you're doing, what you're saying, asking questions, asking Mario questions.
	Why do you want to do this?
	What's the outcome of this?
	How am I going to know this is not going to be a hit job?
	What is it going to do?
	Anyways, very, very, very sharp.
	No, he's done so many sit-downs in his life.
	He's a smart guy.
	The kind of sit-downs that your life depends on it, right?
	Anyways, six months after that, he agreed.
	We did the interview, and it did very well.
	And then the scariest person, though, that we met with wasn't Sammy.
	It's two other guys.
	Frank Colada was one and Sonny Francis.
	Sonny Francis was Michael's dad.
	He was like, if you ask Sammy about Sonny Francis, the level of respect.
	Oh, because Sonny's the one that was, the rumor had it that he used to be with Jackie Kennedy and Marilyn.
	The stories that people say about Jackie and Merlin Monroe, it was a Sonny story.
	That's who Sonny was.
	I mean, there was a massive article done us.
	Sonny did 50-something years in jail.
	So we go to New York to meet Sonny at the old folks' homes after he got out of jail.
	Okay, we go to the hospital to see him.
	And I go in there with Mario.
	Sonny looks at me like this.
	He's looking at me like 10 seconds pause.
	He's still looking at me, not moving, just like this.
	Imagine somebody looks at you like this.
	And then he looks at Mario like this for 10 seconds.
	He says, You rat to Mario.
	Are you a rat or no?
	He says, You know, 95% of the world, they're rats.
	You rat.
	And Mario's like, doesn't know what to say.
	He's looking at me.
	He's looking at me like, I'm like, Sonny, he's totally fine.
	He's a good guy.
	He's been with me for 15 years.
	So you're not a rat?
	No.
	Okay, good.
	Well, good having you here.
	Let's go.
	And then we sat down and I was trying to do the interview with him.
	Tough as sale.
	Look how he is.
	By the way, he died a year ago, a year and a half ago.
	And that's Michael and his dad were.
	Where is he right in the middle there?
	In the picture, he's the one in the middle right there.
	Look at that face right there.
	Okay.
	That's a guy.
	Some of the stories about him, it's a myth.
	I can't even tell the story, some of the stories they say about what he did.
	Anyway, so we go back part two.
	I got my whole camera crew there.
	Everybody's there.
	We're about to do the interview.
	I'm taking him to the top Italian restaurant to see if he's going to be comfortable.
	We're driving to the restaurant.
	And I said, so, Sonny, you know, what do you think about Myrlansky?
	Because he comes from that era.
	Good man.
	Very good man.
	I said, really?
	Was he a billionaire?
	No, just a regular man, but he was a good man.
	So what do you think about Lucky?
	Oh, phenomenal man.
	Very good man.
	I said, the stories about what Lucky did.
	Never.
	Very good man.
	Yeah, that's it.
	I said, how about you'll get?
	That's what you'll get.
	I said, how about Bugsy?
	You'd never call him Bugsy to his face.
	To you, his Ben Siegel.
	Very good man.
	Fine gentleman.
	Yeah.
	So I go, how about Frank?
	You know, so I'm going through all these stories.
	Nothing.
	I said, Sonny, let's do the interview because if you don't do the interview, the world's going to tell your story.
	How about you do the interview with me and let you control the narrative?
	You tell the story.
	Let the audience go there and make the decision.
	And he's looking at me like thinking about it.
	And his lawyer's sitting to his left.
	It was the most uncomfortable lunch because the lawyer's screaming, shouting.
	You know, it's very ugly at this point.
	It's like 15 people at this table.
	We've shut down the Italian restaurant.
	It's just us.
	Michael's sitting to my left.
	His lawyer's there.
	Our people are here.
	Everyone's waiting for Sonny to say yes.
	And then all of a sudden he's like, yeah, listen, here's all I have.
	All I have that I'm taking to my deathbed with me is I've never ratted anybody out.
	And I'm not going to talk to anybody.
	That's why he did 55 years.
	Yeah.
	He could have only done that.
	Did you ever see a movie called Angels with Dirty Faces with James Cagney?
	It's a great movie because it's about one guy who gets caught.
	They're two juvenile delinquents.
	One guy gets caught.
	The other guy gets away from the cops.
	The guy who gets away from the cops becomes a priest.
	The guy who gets caught gets stuck in the system, becomes a gangster.
	Those are the guys from Made It Ma, Top of the World.
	So he becomes a gangster.
	And the greatest thing about that movie is this.
	They finally catch him.
	He's going to the chair.
	He's going to get electrocuted.
	And the priest, his old friend, who couldn't, who ran faster, his old friend comes to James Cagney.
	And James Cagney's in the jail cell.
	And he's like, I'll die like a man.
	I'm not afraid of these people.
	I die like I live.
	I'm a man.
	And the priest comes to him and says, I want you to do me a favor.
	And he says, what?
	And he says, I want you to go to the chair like a coward.
	And James Cagney goes, what?
	And he goes, I don't want you to go to the chair like a brave man because these kids on the street will look up to you.
	And I don't want them to look up to you.
	Wow.
	I want you to go to the chair like a coward.
	And he goes, all I got, all I got is this.
	That's all I got.
	And you want to take that away from me in the last moment of my life?
	You want me to be a go to the chair yellow, which was a coward, like a coward?
	And he goes, I do.
	And he goes, I'm not doing it.
	Get out of here.
	That's all I got.
	And the priest leaves with his head hung low.
	And then you see James Cagney being walked to the chair.
	And it's done shadows on a wall.
	Gangsta.
	And he's walking.
	I got this.
	I got it.
	I got this.
	And he's walking like a man.
	You're like, damn, he didn't do it.
	And then just when he's going to go, he goes, I can't do it.
	No, help me, man.
	Man, I don't want to die.
	And they have to drag him to the chair.
	And then I see the kids reading it.
	And it says, you know, what's his name?
	Goes to the chair like a coward.
	And the priest is just watching these kids going, man.
	I always looked up to him when he went there like a coward.
	I don't know.
	Is this really worth it, man?
	That's how it ends.
	Damn.
	It's called Angels.
	He watches it.
	And he goes, come on, boys.
	Let's go have a drink for a kid who couldn't run as fast.
	It's a great movie, man.
	But James Cagney had his best there.
	I mean, how about that?
	What a freaking story.
	How about that?
	I mean, but that's the opposite of what Sonny did.
	Sonny went and Sonny went and said, no, this is who I am.
	Yeah.
	To the core, by the way.
	You know, the number with Sonny is 55.
	You know, Sammy's got 19?
	Sonny's number was 55.
	Bodies?
	Kills.
	People?
	Oh, my goodness.
	That's the number that you hear.
	52 or 55.
	It's somewhere around the 53.
	102?
	Yeah.
	103 and a half.
	103 years old.
	That's how old he was when he died.
	He did 50.
	He plus in jail.
	That's why you can ask him about Lucky and Meyer and those guys, because 104 years ago, it was 1918.
	Imagine that.
	Well, you know, I think also, I think there might be something to the fact that, you know, people are born gangsters.
	Sometimes people like Sonny, like Sammy the Bull, they're born.
	What would we do without our bad guys?
	Movies in life would be pretty boring.
	What would cops do without our bad guys?
	Did you ever hear the story about their core that way?
	That story that Sonny told us sitting at the table on the podcast about the guy that he kidnapped.
	I'm sorry.
	That Sammy the Bull told us.
	Was that not the most intense story you ever seen?
	One of the most intense stories.
	Oh, you mean the story about the guy who was a hitman's hitman?
	Yeah, he kidded me.
	And he said, take your shoes off.
	Exactly.
	Take my shoes off.
	Oh, my God.
	That was the most intense story I've ever seen in my life, bro.
	Dude, that's where you just go.
	Sammy the Bull Garano might be the best storyteller I've ever seen.
	And I'm in the business of telling stories.
	You want to talk about a storyteller.
	And the thing about it is I believe every single word that guy says.
	That's the other thing that I really appreciate.
	I'm pretty good at reading bullshit.
	That's my, you know, I'm an actor.
	Would you want to interview him?
	Yeah, I'd love to.
	Would you want to have him on the podcast?
	I would.
	I would love.
	All right.
	Really?
	I really.
	Okay.
	I'll make the introduction.
	Really?
	Patrick, how do you get not to cut you off by my bad?
	How do you get Sammy the Bull's number?
	How does that happen?
	You better not rat.
	Don't be a fucking artist.
	Hey, you want to be a freaking question.
	Excuse me, Mr. Ben David.
	I want to apologize for my friends.
	He's a little out of line.
	I was like, funny.
	Funny how.
	It's unbelievable.
	Funny how.
	A little disrespectful.
	Let me tell you.
	Let me tell you a real funny story, and then we'll wrap up.
	This has been a blast.
	So we go to a local restaurant here who's called Casa D'Angelo.
	If you haven't been, we got to take you.
	Okay.
	You're going to lie.
	I told Joe, I said, Joe, they got the best veal, not veal, best elk.
	You got to go to this place to try to elk.
	He says, when I'm out there, we'll figure it out.
	But so I'm out to Florida.
	We moved to Fort Lauderdale.
	From Boca, we moved to Fort Lauderdale.
	And first week, I'm going to Casa D'Angelo.
	This is known as people would go to this place to eat.
	The owner's name is Angelo.
	It's purely all Italian.
	Employees, 80% Italian, all of them, like from Italy.
	So first time I go eat there, I go there with Chas Momenteri.
	So the manager comes out, the owner comes out.
	Oh, okay.
	Who's this guy?
	We go to the corner.
	We sit there.
	Okay.
	Second time I go there, a week after that, it's with Michael Francis.
	Look, oh, Michael Francis.
	Hey, you know what?
	So, okay, we go there.
	Third time I go there is with Sammy.
	This is three weeks in a row.
	I'm going there.
	So it's Chaz.
	You remember this?
	Because we got together with all three of us.
	I was there all three.
	So we go Chas.
	We go Michael.
	We go.
	By the way, Chaz's dinner was one of the best dinners of all time.
	Yes, I know.
	Amazing.
	Yeah, I love that guy.
	So the third one we go is with Sammy.
	By the fourth one, it was the week that I was on Rogan.
	I was on his podcast.
	So on the podcast, I give a shout out to the restaurant, Casa D'Angelo.
	By the fifth time we went back there, these guys are thinking Italian and they're thinking I'm like, you know, from Italy.
	That's a cell.
	He's a maid man.
	Leave him alone.
	I said, let's see.
	You're a Syrian.
	That's an original Italian.
	Where do you think the Romans get it?
	From Armenia and Assyria.
	I tell you what, though, man, the story, obviously, you're fascinated by the story.
	And it never gets old because there's more stories.
	You know, when Sammy's telling the stories or Michael's telling the story, Frank Collada, when we interviewed him, I'm in Vegas.
	And we're staying at the MGM.
	Mario is setting up the place.
	If you can pull up Frank Collada so he knows who Frank Colada is.
	So do you remember seeing, so we walk in, Frank walks in, and Mari says, oh, Frank, we ready?
	We have everybody ready here to do the interview.
	And I was, I'll text it to you so you know who it is.
	Frank's like, yeah, don't worry.
	I've been sitting out there for 30 minutes.
	Who was the guy that came and dropped off the camera and the lights and all that stuff?
	Tell me who that guy is because that's who I've been watching.
	Whoa.
	Holy shit.
	So Mari's like, oh, that's one of us.
	You sure he's one of you?
	That's him, Frank Colada.
	I don't trust anybody, bro.
	Oh, let me tell you.
	So he walks in.
	If you've never seen the interview, he walks in zero, like, hey, zero.
	Hitch.
	Cold as ice.
	When the interview ends, I'm talking to Mario on this side to check to see if we're going to grab one of the lights or to leave.
	We look around.
	He disappeared.
	Gone.
	Gone.
	He disappeared.
	No, no high, buy nothing.
	He's gone.
	He disappeared.
	He messaged me a year after that.
	He says, hey, I had no idea our sit-down was going to get these many millions of views.
	He says, my business is taking off in Vegas.
	Let's do something.
	A couple weeks later, he dies.
	He just died.
	Wow.
	What was his business in Vasili?
	So if you don't know who he is, the jewelry.
	He's told Jewelry.
	He's a jewelry.
	He's a jewelry.
	He came from China.
	I don't apologize.
	He's in the garbage.
	What's wrong with you?
	By the way, Frank Collada, Frank Collada, if you want to know who he is, you ever seen the movie Casino?
	Yeah, of course.
	You know who Tony Spilatra is?
	Okay, Tony Spilatra is like the Sammy of Vegas, let's just say.
	Like that guy, like a Phil Leonetti of Vegas.
	It's Joe Pesci.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So Tony Spilatra.
	That's a bad guy.
	Bad, bad guy.
	But in the movie, if you've seen Casino, remember when they go to the scene where they put the head in a vice and the guy that blows up the guy in the head and the vice?
	That's Colada.
	That's his move.
	He did that?
	Oh, wow.
	That's crazy.
	That's Frank Colada.
	Very bad guy.
	Very bad.
	Qualified bad guy.
	These guys are real sociability.
	They don't care about it.
	He is cold like you.
	Yeah, cold.
	By the way, Brian, the way that you tell stories, the accents, the things that you, you're going to have a great time with Sammy if you can set that up.
	The guy can tell stories, and if he didn't end up in that life, he could have been an entertainer comedian.
	It's that.
	You're a guy in LA.
	You're in LA.
	Okay, yeah.
	We'll set that up.
	I've seen it, man.
	I appreciate it.
	Yeah, we'll set that up.
	Thank you for having me.
	If you do have him on, you know, set it up for a couple hours.
	Set it up for a couple hours.
	He makes his own time.
	I'm not going anywhere.
	You'll have him on The Fighter and the Kid.
	Oh, I'd love it.
	How often do you do that?
	Twice a week.
	Twice a week.
	And it's just you and Brendan.
	Just me and Brennan.
	Okay, guys.
	Dude, that would be sick.
	The team's back.
	That'd be sick.
	That'd be sick.
	I don't want to bring up any weird stuff, but I do watch it all the time.
	And Brendan was just on with Bobby Lee.
	Yeah.
	Is that something you're talking about these days?
	I love that guy.
	I've been friends with Bobby forever.
	I spoke to him in a way that was inappropriate.
	I was mad about something.
	I was given information.
	Should have waited on more information.
	I should have given him the benefit of the doubt because he didn't know what the hell was going on.
	And I called him up and I own my mistakes, dude.
	I love that about you because you're like, this is on me.
	It is.
	This is on me.
	I didn't know anything.
	I didn't see what happened.
	Patrick has no clue.
	Well, I'll tell you, off air, but it's fine.
	But I love that guy.
	And I've known him forever.
	And I call him up and I go, I apologize.
	He was mad.
	He read me the Riot Act.
	And I was like, you're right.
	When you're right, you're right.
	But when you screw up and you get angry and you don't give a friend of yours like that the benefit of the doubt, you deserve a little heat.
	But I respect you, Brian.
	It takes a lot, which I love you for this.
	Because nobody does this shit.
	Nobody.
	I own my mistakes.
	Well, I did it because guess what?
	I've been angry, angry.
	And in that moment, that information forever.
	I've done shit to where if it was the other way, I would have punched me.
	And I was given information that was, I should have waited.
	And I should have, and I, when you have a friend, when you have somebody who I like as much as Bobby, who didn't deserve, you got to be able to say, you got to ask him.
	You got to go, hey, you know, explain to me.
	And I was outside of myself, wasn't who I am, made a mistake.
	You're human.
	He accepted my apology.
	I apologize.
	We're good, man.
	It's all good.
	That's great.
	But, you know.
	What's the big lesson you learned through all this?
	Whether it's Bobby or Ricky or who it doesn't, what's the lesson you learned?
	Don't assume.
	Give your friends the benefit of the doubt.
	And, you know, make sure you got all your information in your ducks in a row.
	And even when you do, ask.
	First.
	First.
	Don't, you know, go and say, hey, what's going on?
	It's not like me.
	There were a lot of extenuating factors.
	I was given a lot of information.
	I was defending a friend.
	You know, Brendan's my brother, man.
	So, so I'm very protective of my friends.
	I'm very loyal.
	But I should have realized I was also talking to a friend, somebody I love very much.
	I've known Bobby for how many years?
	25 years.
	Crazy.
	Longer than Brendan.
	But he's also a great dude.
	Bobby's hilarious, too.
	Well, you guys did Mad TV together.
	Well, we were on, I wasn't on the same thing, but I've known him forever.
	And I've always had nothing but great love and affection.
	And his girl, Kalila, she seems to me.
	I don't know her.
	Oh, you don't even know her at all?
	I don't know.
	She seems very level-headed, though.
	Yeah, I don't.
	Look, I don't have any beef with that.
	That's something that was unfortunate.
	It was one phone call, and I apologized right away.
	I respect that you own that.
	Yeah, you got to own your clear.
	This is on me.
	Yes, man.
	That's a problem.
	You got to own it.
	I got to Zoom that they're texting me.
	I got to get okay.
	So, but this was a blast, brother.
	You're freaking awesome.
	And we had a great time with you.
	Looking forward to it.
	So you said tonight, you're performing Palm Beach and tomorrow.
	West Palm Beach, I got two shows tonight, two shows on Saturday, one show on Sunday.
	I don't take the Lord's Day off, dude.
	Can't stop, won't stop.
	You understand?
	Especially how committed you are to your faith.
	I respect that a lot.
	I get a lot of people.
	What an amazing comedy Jesus.
	I'm an option.
	So go to Palm Beach, Palm Beach, West Palm Palm Beach.
	And please.
	Tonight, two show, tomorrow, two show.
	And then Sunday, he's doing one for the Lord.
	So again, Brian, thanks for coming out, bro.
	Hilarious, guys, Brian.
	Have a great weekend, everybody.

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