PBD Podcast | EP 150 | Pro Wrestler Diamond Dallas Page
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PBD Podcast Episode 150. In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Adam Sosnick and Pro Wrestler Diamond Dallas Page.
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About Dallas Page:
Dallas Page (born Page Joseph Falkinburg Jr., April 5, 1956), better known by his ring name Diamond Dallas Page (often stylized as DDP), is an American actor, fitness instructor and former professional wrestler. In the course of his wrestling career, which spanned two decades, Page has wrestled for mainstream wrestling promotions World Championship Wrestling (WCW), the World Wrestling Federation (WWF, now WWE), Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA), and All Elite Wrestling (AEW).
About Co-Host:
Adam “Sos” Sosnick has lived a true rags to riches story. He hasn’t always been an authority on money. Connect with him on his weekly SOSCAST here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw4s_zB_R7I0VW88nOW4PJkyREjT7rJic
Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
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0:00 - Start
1:28 - Diamond Dallas Page admits wrestling is FAKE
18:13 - Diamond Dallas Page reveals his greatest friends in the industry
29:18 - Diamond Dallas Page reveals the most important thing in wrestling
42:28 - Diamond Dallas Page Reveals the greatest wrestlers of all time
1:02:45 - Diamond Dallas Page explains his true thoughts on Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
1:08:24 - BREAKING NEWS: Elon Musk buys twitter
1:16:40 - Breaking down Mike Tyson's airplane punch
1:24:15 - Vince McMahon vs. Dana White
It's Diamond Dallas Page, the one and only Diamond Dallas Page.
I don't know how many championships you've got, how many times you were.
Let me just read off a few of them so folks know what you did over a decade in WCW, three-time WCW World Heavyweight Champion, two-time WCW United States heavyweight champion, four-time WCW World Tag Team Champion, one-time WCW World Television Champion, four WCW Triple Crown Champion.
This list goes on.
And the only U.S. heavyweight champion to defend the title on a pay-per-view main event defeating Bret Hart and the 1998 World War III.
You have a new program called the DDPY, which some would call yoga, but you created it yourself.
And you said something very interesting when we just got started.
You said, when you guys started wrestling, you know, the Hulk was 6'7 and you were 6'4 and you're still 6'4 and he's now 6'3.
So probably about the same height.
Yeah, right.
About the same.
Yeah.
I to eye.
We'll talk about how you did that, how you recreated the solo identity, but pretty excited about this interview, man.
Great to have you on.
Pleasure to be here, bro.
Pleasure to be here.
We've had some certified badasses on the show.
We had Francis Dogano, the UFC heavyweight champion of the world, but I mean, DDP, certified badass in the house.
And you know what it is.
And I'm also an actor.
You know, he's a real badass.
And, you know, dude, I can hang my own, but at 66, I'm all about peace and love, baby.
It's like the old Bobby Bear song, you're the winner.
As far as I'm concerned, you win.
I'm done anyway.
By the way, for the folks who are still in their 40s or 50s and they were convinced wrestling was real, he just ruined it for you.
I always tell people, it's not fake, it's predetermined.
You got air clothes going on.
It's a show.
It's a show.
I got to tell you, this is a great story.
I was being interviewed because we did one of the favorite wrestling movies out there, is Ready to Rumble.
And we're doing the whole big gambit, the promoting it and everything.
And everybody's being so nice because wrestling's just white hot in the 90s.
And that's when it came out.
And there's this one guy who's interviewing me.
And I can tell he just doesn't want to be there.
And so as we get to the end of the interview, I said, can I ask you a question, man?
He goes, sure.
I said, you don't appreciate what we do, do you?
He said, honestly.
I said, I asked you a question.
Yeah, honestly.
He goes, not really.
I said, okay, so you don't like the whole showmanship of it or whatever.
Well, it's fake and blah, blah, blah.
I go, let me ask you a question.
I said, are you like, you guys, you're in New York City?
Are you a guy who likes to go to plays?
Oh, absolutely.
I love Broadway.
I said, what's your favorite Broadway play?
And he said, hands down, Phantom of the Opera.
And I looked around and I said, bro, I don't want to spoil this for you, but he doesn't really get burnt with oil.
You know, I said, you know, and the crew just burst out laughing, right?
I just said to him, I said, you know, every night, I'm going out there with a different opponent because it's a dance.
It's a very physical, brutal dance.
And people think it only happens on Monday and Friday in a pay-per-view.
No, it happens 24 to 27 nights a month.
You get in a car, you drive 100, 200, 300 miles to the next town, or fly from L.A. to Kansas City and drive 100, 200, 300 miles.
The wear and tear on your body is off the chain.
And people can say whatever they want about professional wrestling.
One thing remains that everyone understands.
You can't fake gravity.
You know, gravity wolf, it'll eff you up.
You said your surgery, on your back.
What did you talk about?
You had something going with your back?
This is a thing.
Now, we talked about Hulk a second ago.
From what I understand, Hulk's had eight back surgeries.
Because once you start one, they're coming.
I ruptured my L4.
I didn't start wrestling until I was 35.
My career took off when I was 40.
That was in 96.
Unheard of, by the way.
Unheard of.
Started when you were 35.
35.
Most professional careers are ending at that point.
You're just getting this thing started, baby.
And it was really hard because I came from a manager in a color, a color commentator spot, and I was running nightclubs.
So for me to make that break, because one day they came up to me, I'm the WCW at the time.
I'm managing Scott Hall, who I called the Diamond Stud at the time.
And I'm managing a Freebirds.
And Magnum TA, who is Dusty Rhodes' right hand, walks up to me and he says, listen, D, we're still going to let you do the color commentating, but we can't let you do the, you know, the managing anymore.
I go, why?
I mean, dude, what did I do wrong?
I go, I'll fix it.
He goes, honestly, you can't.
I go, what do you mean I can't?
He goes, because look at you.
The hair had long, unbelievable, gorgeous hair.
I'm drinking.
Locks of golden hair.
Locks, golden hair.
But, you know, the clothes, the bling, the wraps.
I had these girls called the Diamond Dolls.
Yeah.
And they were stripper hot.
It was like smoking.
I know the type, D.
Yes, you know what I'm talking about.
And the bottom line is, he's like, the bling, the wrap, the girls.
Nobody, everybody wants to be you.
You're taking too much.
We need you in the ring, bro.
Is that what he was getting at?
No, he was saying basically, I'm too over the top for professional wrestling.
How is that possible as a manager?
But what he said when he walked away, he said, what we should have tried to do is put you in a pair of tights and boots and see if you can do this.
Now, I had seven months left of my contract.
At that point, I was like, you know, I never got in this business because I tried it when I was 23.
And three matches hurt my knee.
It was, and it didn't work out for me.
I wasn't ready for it then anyway.
Starting at 35 was really hard because I can't tell you how many times my body hit that mat when I first got down that cold gym, that tree and seven different rings in it, and it's freezing in there.
I can't tell you how many times my body hit that mat.
And I thought, man, this fake shit hurts like hell.
You know, so, you know, it's just the, when I finally got to, you know, actually get there and then find out, okay, now you can't do it.
Well, I had seven months left to my contract.
So I said, the hell, I'm going down to PowerPlant.
I'm going to learn how to wrestle.
Now, the guys I was managing, the Freebirds, the two of the greatest ever, Hall of Famers, Jimmy Jam Garvin, Michael P.S. Hayes, they looked at each other and literally fell down laughing at me.
Because by the time you try to figure it out, because it's not like anything you've ever done, if you're in a fight, you're in a fight.
You're in a fight with a mixed martial artist, you're in trouble because those cats know all different types from jiu-jitsu to wrestling to boxing to striking, everything.
Like they're going to get you in every different angle.
But at least you got your own.
You got two fists.
You got something to go with.
In professional wrestling, it's a dance.
And just falling flat on your back, there's nothing normal about that.
So you got to reprogram your mind to understand how to fall.
Because if you don't take as much of it to fall from your shoulders to your hips, you know, you can really hurt yourself.
So the bottom line is you think that learning those moves in the beginning, it's going to be the hardest thing you've ever done.
And now you're out there in front of 500, 5,000.
I've been in front of 101,000 people.
And once you realize now you're in front of those people, now how do you make them care?
And think about this.
When they know that you know, and you know that they know that you and your partner both know who's going to win before you walk out there, how do you make them care?
You build real life characters.
And I've often said this in my speaking.
And when Paige Joseph Falkenberg, because that was my real name before I changed it, and I knew that name was never going to draw any money in a world of professional wrestling.
When Paige Joseph Falkenberg stopped trying to be this over-the-top wrestling persona, Diamond Dallas Page, and Diamond Dallas Page started taking on the characteristics of Paige Joseph Falkenberg.
Work ethic, belief in oneself, discipline.
Man, my career took off like a rocket because I was bringing my own self to the character.
And that's what every single actor does, you know, and creates backstory.
So now that became all mine.
I am the oldest rookie ever.
Inside my Hall of Fame ring, it says work ethic equals dreams.
Explanation one.
I love that.
I love that.
What a freaking story you just told.
By the way, in a match, you're saying all of it is, you know, you kind of know who's going to win before.
Has there ever been a time where in the middle of it, it changed where you guys as the wrestlers made a decision.
Now, you know what?
You're going to win this one.
But not like that, though.
Eddie Guerrero was one of the greatest wrestlers ever.
He could do anything.
And we were having a match at Halloween Havoc.
And this was really got me to a place where Eddie was the good guy when we started.
I was the bad guy, but my diamond cutter finishing maneuver, because it came out of nowhere, people want to be surprised.
They want to think they know, no, no, no.
Oh, they want to be surprised.
And again, ours is like ballet meets Broadway, meets live acting.
And Eddie, he would come off that top rope to you on the floor when nobody did that.
Now a lot of guys do it.
I did it, you know, but at that time, he was one of the only guys who was doing it.
And he would be, he jump off that top deal, which was probably about 12 feet.
So he's another 20 feet in the air and he came down.
And how he landed, and this happened to me too at times, when you tear like a in between your ribs, white muscle, you can't breathe.
It hurts to breathe.
And Eddie never sold it.
In other words, he never told me he hurt himself.
He kept going.
He kept going.
And we're getting near the end of the match.
And I go to pick him up.
He goes, diamond cutter.
I go, no, Eddie goes, diamond cutter, diamond cutter.
He was okay.
Hit him with diamond cutter and pinned him.
It was a huge win for me October of 1996, 1997.
I'd be the wrestler of the year.
Well, you were supposed to lose that match.
And he was that injured.
He's like, DDP me now.
Yes, just hit me, hit me with the freaking nail.
How quickly did it register?
Oh, shit.
I'm about to win this match.
I was like, God, I hope I don't get in trouble.
And did you?
What happened?
Because Eddie was like, he came out like he was really, he would jump up the top rope and he would take his arm, his leg, as far out, and then he'd bring his knees into his chest and he'd spring out.
He goes, I called it a frog splash.
He wasn't doing that.
And I thought he just should have rolled me up and just like, you know, made something really simple to get the win, but he didn't do it.
He went diamond cutter.
I went, okay.
It was a huge win for me at the time.
Wow.
So, so 96.
96.
So let me ask you.
So, you know how the game of football, right?
Okay, the quarterback's up there, coaches calling the play.
Sometimes the player's like, no, I'm going to do what I'm going to do.
And the coach loses their mind.
They're going to be doing that.
What are you doing?
He says, no, I'm going to throw this over here.
Can't say nothing about it.
And then there's that beef between the player and the coach.
When that happens, there, who's calling Kuwait?
Vince calling, saying, What was that all about?
How does that process go?
That was actually Eric Bischoff who was in charge at that point because we were kicking their ass.
Well, we were going back and forth in 96, 97, 98, we kicked WWE's ass.
They almost went out of business.
NWO was the hottest thing.
It was must-CTV.
This is how crazy it was.
The top, you know, back then it wasn't as many channels as now, but it's a lot of them.
So on cable television, we would be, or WWF would be number one in all of cable.
And then we would be, or WWF would be number two, number three, and sometimes number four.
We had the top four shows on all of cable.
And it was two different shows.
We did Nitro and Thunder.
They did Raw and SmackDown.
It was crazy.
And the ratings originally, Vince was doing like a 2.9 to a 3.2.
That would be unbelievable today.
But the universe has changed.
We got those numbers up.
I thought they're going to split one.
I'm going to get 1.5 and 1.8 or whatever.
No, no.
More people watched.
More people watched.
And it's kind of like the Boston Red Sox and the Yankees.
Those two teams hate each other.
And not so much the teams, but the fans.
And if all of a sudden there was no more Red Sox, all those baseball fans who watch the Red Sox would start watching soccer or something.
They wouldn't watch the Yankees, you know, because they hate them.
So I don't understand that.
But my buddies, I grew up in Jersey.
They, you know, like made a plane crash.
Why would you say that?
Like, they're that fanatical about it.
So that's what it was in WCW.
So by the way, were you to be?
Were you at that time?
Like, but was it, did the world also say that you're ahead of them?
Like that the world, because I know you guys had Hulk Hogan, you had, you know, Eric Bischoff, you had Kevin Nash, you had Scott Hall, you had Randy Savage, you had Sting, you had so many guys, Scott Steiner.
I mean, shit, some of these Nims, Bagwell, Norton, there was some legit lineup of what you guys had.
Yeah.
Were you ahead?
Were you like the Yankees at the time, or were you the Red Sox underdog?
We were the red-headed stepchild for the longest time.
And then Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, one day they were on their TV, and the next day, Scott Hall just showed up on ours.
There were only five people who knew he's going to walk through the crowd, walk through, grab a microphone in the middle of a match.
People are like, what the hell is happening?
And then he said, we're going to bring our best three.
You bring your best.
So when he puts out this challenge, we call it a shoot.
You know, like, this is this is not a work or it's not a story.
It was, but nobody knew, but the smallest handful.
You know, really tough to do during the internet, but you can still do it.
But you don't know if it's real or not.
And then when Kevin Nash showed up, he grabbed Eric Bischoff.
This had never been done.
Vince McMahon would go on to have matches and get thrown through stuff and slam through stuff.
But it never happened before Eric Bischoff.
Kevin Nash grabbed him at six foot 10, picked him up over his head and threw him through the stage.
Now, it's set up to break, but he drops like 10 feet through a broken stage down to the ground.
And that's how they go off the show.
So now people are, they bought it.
Is Vince?
Because these guys were just on TV and they were Razor Ramon and Diesel.
When those guys came on, they never said their names.
It was, you know, who we are.
So now it didn't, then have to call them something else.
And their names were cool.
Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Hall and Nash.
They became the outsiders.
It changed the business.
It made it what Thursdays used to be when Seinfeld was on and stuff, must-see TV.
And guys would be picking up the phone.
Oh my God, no, switch over.
Switch over to WWF.
Oh, switch over to WCW.
And through this, because it was so hot, both of those guys were best friends of mine.
We started together.
I created Scott Hall's look when he came in as a diamond stud.
And he didn't, he had the blonde hair and a big walrus mustache and completely changed his look.
And he wanted to help me back, you know.
And Kevin Nash, we were tag team partners, and he wanted to quit a bunch of times because they were screwing him around so bad that I would be like, don't let them beat you, big man.
You're going to be one of the biggest names of all time.
And he is.
But he even, even in his Hall of Fame speech, he thanked me because I got my home on the beach, you know, because a dally kept me in this.
You know, keeping that positive.
Don't you know this?
You know this.
You don't quit.
You keep, if you believe in it, if you're passionate about it, you keep moving towards it.
And it will happen.
And it may not happen exactly when you want it to happen, but it'll happen.
You know, it's crazy.
One of our guys that I was reading the text to you earlier, he texts me from Brazil, Aaron, and he says he knows, obviously, you're going to be on the show today.
He says, have an awesome show today, Patrick.
What DDP did for Jake the Snake was nothing short of amazing.
I said, which part?
He says he brought Jake the snake back from a massive alcohol addiction, rehabbed his body and helped him be able to be inducted into a WWE Hall of Fame.
He has done that for many athletes.
This is a very common thread with the story of what you've done for these guys.
What has been your approach?
And, you know, maybe the better question would be, in every sport, there is a guy that plays that role, older brother, like somebody that's going to give the call and say, you know, let me talk to you.
Let's kind of help you get through this challenging time.
What is the optics of what this looks like?
Meaning party and temptation.
What's around me?
What's the life look like?
I remember I went to Ric Flair's place in Atlanta.
He was in Atlanta.
I interviewed Ric Flair and he told me the stories.
He was sitting there with Rick and his girl is sitting over there, you know, and we're going back and forth.
I'm like, half the stories he's telling me, it doesn't make any sense.
That's when the documentary had to come out and the whole story with his son, 24 years old.
He's fine, he's emotional, all of this stuff.
But tell me what the world looks like that we don't see.
We see this, but we don't see behind the scenes the party.
What does that life look like?
But first, let me tell you, Rick Flair, like there was nobody like him.
There's nobody.
To me, he's the greatest of all time because he had the 30-year run of being on top.
He's still on top at 73.
You know, everybody loves him.
But his stories, when he's telling you how wild and crazy they are, they're watered down because you can take those stories.
Crazy as they are, they're way crazier.
You know, PG-13 version of it.
Yeah, his is like the quadruple X. You know, the NH is his own animal.
I love him to death.
We didn't.
Early in my career, because I'm coming up at the 35, 37.
He doesn't believe in me, likes me, but doesn't believe me.
So he's not going to, we end up having a little bit of conflict.
And then later, after, you know, it's all gone because we're all family.
We all love each other when it's all said and done.
Very few guys have the heat that lasts forever.
Really?
So there's brotherly love throughout all of us.
We're a total dysfunctional family.
We can do shit back and forth to each other, but you don't get to do it.
I love it.
And me and Nate, I saw him.
They dropped all the balloons for WWF.
It was a big thing, WWE, you know, for he's retiring.
And I thought, man, I've always loved this guy as Ric Flair.
I wanted to be tight with Rick, but it just didn't happen.
So I said, I'm going to, I'm going to try and fix this.
So we were both at a signing in New York.
And everybody, he's Rick Flair.
So, you know, he just got retired.
So everybody swarms him.
And I waited till everybody was done.
He was like, hey, Diamond, how you doing?
I go, good, Rick.
I go, can I talk to you for a sec?
He goes, absolutely.
I said, you know, Rick, I go, I know me and you have had heat, you know, over the years.
And he's like, oh, come on, Dean.
Don't, don't worry about that.
I go, Rick, I'm not worried about it.
I want to fix it.
I know I've said some shit.
I know you've said some shit.
I said, dude, I go, I don't want Rick Flair to not be one of my boys.
I don't want me to feel that way.
I said, I would love to start all over again.
And I put out my hand.
I saw I'm Diamond Dallas Page.
And he popped and he hugged me and he kissed me on the forehead.
God bless your brother.
And since then, I've had such an unbelievable relationship.
I love Ric Flair.
When I went in the Hall of Fame that night before I was leaving, he yelled to me.
He was at the bar.
I come over.
He goes, Dee, come on, sit down, have a drink, have a drink.
So have a drink with him.
And he says, what time's your flight tomorrow?
I said, 7:30.
He's like, Jesus, who booked that?
I go, not me.
And I can't change the flight.
He goes, you still in Atlanta?
I said, yeah, I'm still in Atlanta.
He goes, he goes, all right.
He goes, tomorrow, you and your old lady, man, go, I got the limousine, I got the Lear Jet, I got the whole deal.
He goes, you're coming back to Atlanta with me.
I go, Rick, that is so cool.
But, bro, I don't, I've got so many bags.
I'm like the Grizzwalls.
And he's like, I don't want to hear that shit.
Get down there.
It's a FedEx right over there.
He goes, send your bags home.
I'll meet you down here.
Don't call me before 12.
We're leaving at two.
And we went, we got flew us back in the Lear Jet.
He found out it was my birthday, took us out to dinner.
Say, I mean, Rick Flair, I mean, I love him to death.
And I'm telling you, his stories, they're watered down.
He is just pure energy and he's the nature boy.
Who are your best friends in the business?
It sounds like there's a brotherhood, even if there's beef.
You're the type of person.
I'm just, you're infectious as hell, bro.
I feel like if you're in a room, you're going to be the first guy to be like, man, just put it here, Bro.
I feel like that's huge.
That's huge to do, especially in a competitive environment.
But at the end of the day, who are like your tightest guys that you're tight with?
The tightest guys, you know, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Jake Roberts, Dusty Rhodes before he left, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Eric Bischoff.
You know, it's funny because when Scott passed, boy, who it really hit because, you know, we just talked about Jake.
That's a month ago, right?
This, yeah, a month ago.
Jake, what happened?
Let's go back to the resurrection because you got to really see how that happened.
Without Jake, without Dusty Rhodes, there is no Diamond Donalds page.
He gave me all the breaks and the mentoring that, because he loved me and he pulled me under his wing.
And he saw me more as a producer, you know, and a talent, like, you know, on-air talent, not a wrestler.
I would do that later.
And Jake Snake Roberts pulled me under his wing.
This is how I meet Jake Snake Roberts.
I've got this big ass club in Fort Myers, Florida.
And right now we're writing a show about this.
And this is how it starts.
Club, you have to, you know, this is the 80s.
So think of it as like, welcome to the jungle.
The music's playing.
You see the 62 pink Cadillac pull into the club.
The place is packed.
Hairband is just like all-time high at that point.
No, crazy, right?
The energy's insane.
Everybody's partying.
It's pre-AIDS.
It's, you know, it's a bunch of wild people having a good time.
And the character who plays me gets out of the car.
This is what really happens.
I get out of the car.
I go through the club.
You're the mayor.
There's a thousand plus people in there buying drinks, blah, blah, blah.
Working your way through the crowd.
I get to the back.
I reach over.
I go to grab my keys that are, you know, right where the monitors are, front door, back door.
And I see this guy fill up the screen on the monitor.
And I'm like, no way.
And I run not through the building, not through the building, around the outside of the building because I won't be able to find him in there.
And I walk in the front door.
I go, Judy, did a guy walk in here look like Jake to Snake Roberts?
She's like, yeah, everybody thinks it's him.
So like the biggest mark ever, I go running in there.
I see him and I slow down because I didn't want to be all fanboyed up on Jake Roberts.
And I finally worked my way over to him.
I'm like, hey, man, you Jake to Snake Roberts?
Who wants to know?
I said, the guy who runs this place, yes.
What can I do for you?
What are we drinking?
And we are getting so shit-faced that night.
It was the beginning of being bar buddies.
And he would come into the club and a lot of the other boys would because I didn't charge anybody.
I took care of them all, gave them a safe place to be.
This is before I'm involved in this shit, but I tried it when I was 23.
So I have this thing connection to it.
And then later on, Jake, when I would be in WCW and I started wrestling, Jake came in for like three months, got this huge contract.
And then before he signed it, another guy came in, Bill Watts, and said, pull the contract off the table.
And then Jake was out of there because they had a lot of conflict between the two of them.
And what ended up happening is I tore my rotator cuff and Jake had called me because now I'm wrestling nine months, actually seven months, because my contract's up.
They're not going to renew it.
I'm 36 years old.
My rotator cuff's gone.
I got to get surgery on it.
Jake calls me up and just sees how I'm doing.
Him and his old lady had split up.
Before you know it, he's living with me and my wife, my first wife at the time.
And so he takes me under his wing.
And I'm like, man, I can't wait.
We're going to do the independent, you work independently.
There's independent wrestling all over the world, and you can make decent money.
I was at the bottom of the card, but Jake could get me in.
And one of the things he said to me, which was really, really like it changed my whole life when it came to this world and how fast I learned, I filmed every match I ever had.
And Jake had sold me.
I'd said to him, and I can't wait when my shoulders better.
I can't wait to get in the ring and work with you.
He goes, yeah, yeah.
He goes, but you've already got all the moves down.
You already know what to do in the ring.
You just don't know why.
You don't know how to tell a story yet.
He goes, we're going to learn more watching your matches and me critiquing them than you'll ever learn from being in the ring.
Think of game films, right?
I mean, every single person from every world has game films, except for wrestling.
And I started filming myself, the guys would bust my chops so bad.
I'm the first guy to ice his body, knees and back later and shoulders later, just to getting out of the ring, icing my body.
And then I'm the first guy to film his matches.
Look on YouTube today.
There's a billion kids who've got their match up on YouTube.
And if you really watch it with someone who really understands, and whether it was me and Nash or Scott Hall or Austin or McFoley, whoever it was, you know, we'd sit back and drink beers and watch the matches that I just filmed.
And they would all help me and critique me.
And Jake was a real mind though.
So let me ask you this.
So what matters the most in your world?
Okay, so you got, first of all, your voice is ridiculous.
Your voice, you know what I'm saying?
Like you can listen to that voice tell stories all day long.
So clearly, I'll kick your ass.
So how much of it is physiology, like what you look like?
How much of it is your look, your face?
How much of it is your voice?
How much of it is storytelling?
How much of it is talking shit?
How much of it is just flexibility?
What would you rank as the most important to being a great wrestler?
You're really insightful, bro, because it's all of that.
When you've got the look and the size and the rap and the athleticism, when you put that all together, you've got like Stone Cold Steve Austin.
You've got The Rock.
You've got Goldberg.
You know, you've got Kevin Nash.
Guys who learn to just take themselves and amp them up.
And Scott, because he was big Scott Hall or he was Gator Scott Hall, he didn't really know how to be like himself and amp himself up until I'm managing him and we create that look I told you about with the black hair and the brush cut five o'clock shadow, which he had around two.
Have you seen his beard?
Of course.
Can you pull him up real quick?
It's amazing.
He's got like a perfect.
Scott Hall.
And try to pull up a picture of him with a mustache too, like an older picture.
So you can see it doesn't look anything like this.
Type of mustache, type of mustache next to him.
Yeah, it's like a walrus mustache.
Let's see.
Does that look anything like the other guy?
Not at all.
That's Scott Hall right there.
That's Scott.
That's big Scott Hall.
And when did he become Razor Ramon?
Well, what happened was when I come up with this idea for the diamond stud, he's the one who calls me and says, you know, we could do that diamond stud gimmick, you know?
And I said, well, you, you know, they didn't want to bring him in because he'd already been in.
And once you've had a chance, you're kind of out.
You know, like sometimes it's too early.
And it was too early for him to get the big opportunity.
But if you change his look, and that's what I told Magnum TA, the guy who told me I was too over the top for professional wrestling as manager.
He said, you know, they've already seen him and they don't want to bring him back in.
I go, Mags, what if I can completely change his look?
He goes, what do you mean?
I go, what if you don't recognize him?
So he goes, just bring him up.
Bring him up.
We'll take a look at him.
So I call Scott and I say, dude, I said, you've got to, you know, they don't want you.
And it just crushed him, you know, it's like, because he just got back from Germany wrestling there and he can't get WWF, WWE, or WCW to call him back.
But he's got me here and I'm going, you got, what if we change the color of your hair?
I go, he goes, what do you mean?
I go, like, go from like the blonde or dirty blonde hair to the blue black, like Elvis hair.
And Honky Talk Man had black hair like that.
Honky Talk Man was great.
Yeah.
But he was the only one who had that hair like that.
It was Elvis, right?
Yeah, of course.
And then you bring on, you know, the, I saw, I saw Sean, not Sean Michael, I saw George Michaels on MTV at 2 o'clock in the morning because I'm a club guy still, even though I'm staying with my buddy in Atlanta.
I can't go to bed that early.
So I see George Michael on, and he had this five o'clock shadow look.
I go, man, that looks amazing.
So I pick up the phone and I call him, Dally, what are you doing, bro?
It's two in the morning.
My wife's pregnant.
I go, come here.
I got to tell you something.
You're coming up tomorrow.
Come on.
Walk out of the room.
I go, you got to shave the mustache.
Shave the mustache.
Like, dude, I've had this since I was 15.
I go, just another reason.
Shave the mustache.
That's how Selic look is done, brother.
We got to put the 5 o'clock shadow, George Michael, vibes.
So the bottom line is he did it.
No one recognized him.
And it kind of freaked.
Imagine you know what you look like.
Yeah, of course.
And you saw this guy six months ago.
And now, exactly.
No one's going to look like the same guy.
Crazy.
It's like getting out of the 80s into the 2000s.
Hey, yo.
He was the hey yo.
Who would say Chico?
Who would say?
Him too.
Him too, right?
He would say Chico.
You know your stuff, bro.
Well, I mean, listen, I mean, I'm 43.
This is my era.
I've watched.
Who was your favorite wrestler growing up?
Who was your guy?
The obvious one is the Iron Chic.
But you got to say, listen.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
Did you know what a stud iron chic used to be?
Yeah, that's what I hear.
He was an animal, bro.
He was 185-pound Olympic athlete.
He was no Sergeant Slaughter.
Yeah, no, dude.
So who was your guy?
Another great guy.
I would say, I mean, in my era, shit, Lex Luger was always good.
Got his stuff coming out.
Who was the other guy?
The Ultimate Warrior was beast.
You like the gym guy.
I like the gym guys.
Yeah, I like the listen.
Goldberg to me was, that's a little later, but Goldberg was insane to watch him.
Nash, Sting.
Who was the other guy?
There was one other guy that was.
I'll look him up.
But anyways, this was an era I was watching him.
But go back to your story on what you were talking about with him.
You changed his look.
So I changed his look.
And now I've got a 62 pink Cadillac convertible.
That's what I drive at the time.
Aretha Franklin vibe.
Let's see what it looks like.
62 Cadillac pink convertible.
And we're driving.
Scott didn't even drink back then.
He smoked pot.
And he'd be rolling.
That's a 59.
Got to get a 62.
That's a 59.
Tyler, it's a 59 moron.
If you put Diamond Dallas Page pink Cadillac, come up over there.
Jack right now.
He loved the movie Scarface.
He would be, you know, smoking an herb and just doing wonders.
There's a million quotes from Scarlet.
Our friend Mario does that nonstop, too.
And so what happened was when he went to the WWF, I had heard, I don't know if it was true or not, but I'm pretty sure he told me that Vince wanted to make him like G.I. Bro or what, not GI Bro, but an army guy.
And he said, you know, Vince, what do you think about this?
And they went into the character and Vince loved it.
And then one of my very good friends, Gabriel Glatius, the comedian, said, Fluffy, Fluffy said he cried when he realized he wasn't Mexican.
Still loved.
Is he just a white guy?
The white guy.
But he played it so well.
He played it better than Mexicans, kidnap.
I want to address one thing.
We're talking about this guys.
I got to just held it head on.
My favorite wrestler all time growing up, I'm an 80s kid, 90s kid, straight up.
It wasn't anything close to Hulk Hogan.
I am a real America.
I mean, are you kidding me?
When you're a kid growing up and you're just like, hell yeah.
I mean, Hulk.
I mean, he's got his 62-inch python, whatever.
Look, there was Ultimate Warriors, Macho Man, Randy Cyrus.
I mean, Jake the Snake, Million Dollar Man, Ted DiBiase, Superfly Jimmy Snuck on Junkie.
Like, I loved wrestling, but nobody was Hulk Hogan.
No, he was.
Is he the GOAT?
Who's the GOAT?
Rick Flair.
He's right.
I got to say, Rick, because you got to add the work in there, too.
Like, Rick could do 60-minute Broadways, meaning he's going to wrestle for 60 minutes with no winner at the end.
You know what I mean?
Like, he's that guy.
But if you take the icon who at the time was the hottest, it's Hulkster, you know.
But you look at a guy like Sean Michaels, who was just a younger version who could do.
I mean, he did stuff at just an unbelievable different level.
If Stone Cold Steve Austin has the length of Ric Flair when it comes to longevity, because he got dropped on his head and broke his neck, you know, maybe he's the guy because he drew money.
He drew more money than Hulk drew in a shorter period of time.
Yeah, because remember.
So he's like Conner.
He would pull money.
Say again?
Because Connor, you know, Connor and UFC.
Connor was the best.
Right, And that's Austin.
And Austin, I mean, I know.
Wow.
They're both.
I tell you, when you get to that level, the grab, how you grab the crowd.
Like, I was so lucky to have lived the dream like I did, man.
1997 was my year.
1998 was amazing in 99.
And this is all in my 40s.
Crazy.
You know, all in my 40s.
And what ended up happening, where the whole DDP yoga thing comes from, I'm working 270 plus days a year, hitting the mat.
One match, because I'm with main events through all of this.
So one match could go 15 minutes, it could go 30.
That's like having five to eight car accidents in one day.
And Rick Flair said something really interesting.
He said, it's amazing what your body can get used to.
Pain tolerance.
Yes.
But just your body can just keep get used to it.
And then when you stop doing it and you come back, oh my God, it's like starting all over again.
So I was working such a feverish pitch along with doing Malone, Carl Malone, and Dennis Rodman.
Rodman was with Hogan, and me and Carl Malone came on while they were on the tonight show and we shot the angle.
Showed Malone and DDP.
And I have to teach these guys now how to wrestle.
They're not wrestlers.
So we have to figure out a beast.
Like that is the, I'll go back and tell you this story.
So Hulk pulls me aside in Germany, 1994.
I just walked through the curtain and he pulls me aside.
He goes, how are you doing it?
I go, how am I doing what, Hulk?
He goes, how are you getting so much better?
He goes, I don't see you on TV that often.
They don't believe in me at the time.
They're not using me.
So he goes, but when I do see you, you come up with some new move I haven't seen you do and you get the people involved.
He goes, this is how they're doing it, right?
He answers his own question.
He goes, they're putting you on the road so you can learn your craft.
I said, Hulk, the only reason I'm on this tour is because my real name is Falkenberg and the Krauts love their Germans.
And I got a smoking hot wife that walks me to the ring.
He goes, well, how the hell are you doing it then?
And I said, I went back down to PowerPlant where I learned how to wrestle and I started teaching those guys.
And I'm kind of figuring out the more I teach them, the more I learn.
This is about everything.
You know this.
Of course.
If you teach someone and keep teaching them and keep teaching them, you're learning as you're teaching.
The most.
The most important thing.
So, and obviously, hey, Hulk, thank you.
I appreciate the compliment.
He goes, he goes, whatever you're doing, keep doing it because it's not today.
It's not next year, the year after.
He said, but I honest to God believe that you and I could draw huge money together.
Wow.
Four years later, that is the big second biggest drawing pay-per-view in the history of pay-per-views for WCW.
And I'm the one who put that whole thing together.
From Carl coming in, Rodman was already coming in with Hulk, but I put the idea together, brought it to Bischoff.
Bischoff saw Malone sweep LA that year, and he said, let's do it.
And it happened.
So it's, you know, getting, you never know who's watching.
You know, that's one of the little things I explained to people.
You know, if you're going to clean a bathroom or sweep a floor, like do it the right way because somebody's watching and it might just change your life.
That's so powerful, by the way.
God, you never know who's watching.
No.
Well, listen, he's at 270 out of 365.
So you're working 270.
It's like having five to eight car accidents a day, 15 to 30 minutes.
You're running, jumping, back, dropping, all this stuff.
That's insane, too.
Credit goes to the body, by the way, how capable we are.
Some of these companies are like, there's no way in the world I can do this.
And I've had four kids.
You watch the body have a baby.
You're like, how do you do that?
The body is so much more capable than we think it is.
But going back to what you're talking about here, the greatest of all time, you said Rick is at the top, Rick Flair, Hawk is in a conversation.
He said all this stuff.
But let's go to peak.
Who peaked the most for one year, two years, three years?
Goldberg, freaking.
That's what I'm saying.
They'll say the greatest boxer of all time is Ali, right?
But the greatest peak of all time, isn't it, Tyson?
Yeah.
So who would be the greatest peak?
Would you put Goldberg at the top?
I would say him or Austin because they were so hot.
Rock.
Rock had a crazy, you know, but was really like, if Austin and McMahon don't have that feud where it basically like give him the fingernails to your boss, you know, and people love that.
Like Steve changed the game.
The NWO took it.
Like you never would have thought WCW could have competed with WWE.
But when we did NWO, we kicked their ass.
For like Bischoff has a show, a podcast called 83 Weeks.
And 83 Weeks, we kicked their ass.
And then that whole Austin and McMahon thing happened and it started to shift the tide again, you know?
And, and that's where, how did that happen?
How did the friction between the two happen?
What caused it?
What was the different points?
Vince was probably the greatest heel of all time because he fully commits.
And he was not afraid to have, you know, have Austin in this scenario shine him.
And it was really, you know, it's just great television.
And, you know, everybody wants to, not everybody, but many people want to knock their boss out.
Not true over here, over here.
Don't put that in a second.
When you say heel, this is someone who plays the villain.
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
Walk us through that because I assume most people want to be the hero.
No.
The Hogan, the good guy.
No, you're saying most people want to play the heel?
Pretty much every guy who starts wants to be the heel.
Really?
It's fun to be J.R. Ewing.
It's fun.
It's easy to get people to hate you.
It's really hard to get people to love you.
You've got to really be vulnerable.
You've got to show something that they can identify with.
For me, it was the underdog.
You know, Jim Ross called me the greatest overachiever of all time.
And in my Hall of Fame speech, I said, to be an overachiever, you must first be an over-believer.
And it's so true.
When I was inducting Jake in the Hall of Fame, and you have to understand, before Jake moved into my place, and anybody who's never seen the resurrection of Jake the Snake, it's on Amazon Prime, along with another documentary we just put out called Relentless.
But it's dark because it's addiction, but it will make you laugh.
It will make you cry.
Most of all, it will inspire you because Jake just didn't burn bridges, as we call that.
Jake nuked them.
Like it was never going to take, he had said so many bad things about WWE and Vince McMahon.
You know, again, when you're addicted, you do things that you don't do when you're beating the addiction.
What was he addicted to?
Booze, pills, coke, crack.
You know, I mean, everything.
And because Jake helped me to, like, I don't ever get without Dusty Rose, there is no Diamond Dallas Page.
Without Jake, there's no three-time world champion.
Without both of those guys guiding me when I needed them, I'm not a Hall of Famer, but I was because being 35, like I said earlier, was the hardest thing I ever did, hitting that mat in the beginning.
But it was the best thing that ever happened to me because I was smarter than I would have been at 35.
You know what I mean?
So I should say at 25.
You know, 25, I would have done a lot of stupid things.
And I don't think I ever would have had the career I had.
And it was pretty, and everything that I do, it's like when Jake comes into the crib, and I call it the accountability crib.
When he comes in there, the number one thing I want him to understand is you are the story you tell yourself.
That inner voice.
You know, we all have it.
You know, this is funny because I'm preparing for a speech that I'm going to do for somebody, Georgia's corporation.
And about 10 years ago, I heard that Harvard did a one of the things where you get a group of people together.
Focus group.
Focus group.
And I heard that 72% of the people said things that we worry about never happened.
So I thought, oh, I'm preparing for this.
I'm going to actually, I'm going to look it up.
I want to see that study.
Harvard never did a study on the worrying thing, but Cornell did.
But it wasn't 72%.
It was 85%.
Following people over an extended period of time, 85% of the things they worry about never happen.
And it gets better than that.
Of that 15%, 79% handled the adversity way better than they thought they would.
And many of them said, I'm glad it happened because I learned something from it.
So really, 97%, according to this study, by kind of decent school, you know, Cornell got topped with a lie.
90% of things we never worry about never happen.
So again, Jake, let's change the story.
Like that you tell yourself, like when he came in, and it was more like he was waiting to die.
And when someone died, he was pissed it wasn't him.
He never had dreams anymore because there's so much fog on your brain from the coke and the crack and the booze and the pills, you know?
So when he got there, the first thing I do, and the same thing, and we talked about this earlier, the show we're filming right now called Change or Die.
And the first thing I do is change what they eat.
Like no gluten, no dairy, no GMOs, organic, or what God created.
You know, because when what I get people eating, it affects their mindset.
They're so beat up.
And Jake and Scott were so beat up.
And I couldn't believe how bad a shape they were in physically.
You change the food they eat because our food sucks in this country.
It's criminal what the lobbyists and the big corporations have done to our food.
Just watch Food Inc., genetic neglect, our GMO, OMG.
And then you'll have a little bit of an insight.
Now, these are all things I make people watch and things they have to do to be a part of what I'm doing.
So Jake and those guys, so now they change what they eat.
They already start feeling better.
Now, my workouts, my DDP yoga, or I call it DDPY.
Why?
Because I want people to stop calling it just fucking yoga because it's not.
It's yoga, rehab, old school calisthenics, and something I call dynamic resistance, which is flexing and engaging as you're moving.
So just like lifting weights, time under tension.
So what happens, every time you flex or engage a muscle, your heart has to beat faster to get the blood to the muscle.
So what ends up happening is you get in the cardiovascular workout, breaking up scar tissue and creating mobility, strengthening your core at a different level, all with minimal joint impact.
Now, you guys, I'm just sitting here for the last hour.
Oh, he's getting up, y'all.
Watch out.
When I'm coming back out, can you get a camera so you can see it?
Get a mic closer to your DDP.
Okay.
So you can lift it up.
Okay.
I'm going to try this.
Okay, there we go.
So when I blew my back out, this was my flexibility.
Now, you know, I've been sitting here the whole time.
This is cold.
Damn, he's all the way down.
Insane.
But flexibility.
65 years old?
66.
Hey, but who's counting?
You look great.
Core shape.
Core strength is a whole different animal.
Be able to stand here and talk to you and grab either one of my feet and grab it and pull it over my head and have a conversation with you at 6'4, 228 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal.
Let's go.
And 66 years young.
Your wife must love that move, whatever that was.
My wife makes me look like I'm not pliable at all.
She's amazing.
And she's broken her back twice.
I've heard.
So my point is with the program.
What happened to me when I was wrestling with Kevin Nash and it was a tag match.
And Kevin picked me up for the power bomb that he does.
He's 6'10, legit.
And he's throwing me and trying to get me to go flat.
But when I hit, it wasn't that bump.
It was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.
I ruptured my L4 and L5.
So God gave us this incredible spine, right?
And in between are these amazing things called discs, but they're like shock absorbers.
Well, take a jelly donut and do that.
Now it becomes bone on bone.
And I don't know how I did it.
All I know is so much of this reaching and stretching and strengthening.
I'm constantly creating traction because I'm trying to pull those bones off each other.
I was told by three different spine specialists when this happened that I was never wrestle again.
I just had signed the multi-million dollar big deal, and I'd never gotten paid for that.
So the money was a factor, but it was more the dream.
I just got there.
And now, I mean, I'm as high as you can be.
I'm up there with everybody.
According to Pro Wrestling Illustrated, 97 and 98, I'm number four in the world.
Austin's one.
I'm four.
He's 35.
He's 32.
I'm 42.
Crazy.
So I'm in the conversation of the top 10 easily.
And for me, I got to get back there.
I just got to get back there because I got to prove you can do this in less than three months.
I'm that guy.
In less than three months.
In less than three months.
But I didn't do it 20 minutes a day.
I started with 20 minutes a day, twice a day.
And I was doing yoga in the beginning.
In the first three weeks, I felt a significant difference.
I was like, wow, this is really helping.
Had to figure out modifications.
All my workouts are surrounded around modifications.
Like I said, bed flex starts off in bed.
Chair force sits in a chair.
Stands strong, holds on to the chair.
So you can create balance again and strength and get up and get down.
And it just helps you make it easier so you can get to that next spot of breaking up the scar tissue and creating the mobility.
Like I said, less than three months, I'm back in the ring.
At 42, they said my career is over.
At 43, I'm the world champ.
Now, understand, whether, and I put it like this, like world championship, that's our Oscar.
Okay.
U.S. title, Intercontinental, that's our Emmy, you know, and so forth.
Like, there's, it's like you're drawing, you're bringing people to the crowd.
Like those belts, all these fans have them because it's like, it's part of the nostalgia that goes with it.
And it's, you know, as far as my program, it's just for me in the beginning for years.
And I started sharing it with some of my buddies.
And in 2004, I said, I'm going to make, I'm going to turn this into something.
So me and my business partner, Dr. Craig Aaron, we wrote a book on it.
We called it Yoga for Regular Guys.
Back then, that's what I was calling it.
And for years, you know, I made a DVD series up and it was just the workouts.
And then I put together a whole program with the food and, you know, the inspirational part.
And it still didn't go anywhere.
It took eight years to become an overnight success.
Doesn't it usually work that way, though, by the way?
That's how it does.
It's like the 10,000-hour thing.
And in this scenario, Arthur Borman's video went viral.
And this was a disabled vet that I'd helped who was 5'6 ⁇ , 297 pounds, couldn't walk without the knee braces, back bracing a wraparound canes.
He starts every single person who got my program, it was just DVDs, I would send him an email.
It was no auto-send today.
I do have auto-send, but back then there was no auto-send.
You're sending it.
I sent it.
I cut, paste, put their name on it, sent it to him.
And I said, I'm not trying to sell you anything.
I want to thank you.
I call people all the time who get my program.
And I'll say, hey, hey, how's Jenny there?
Yeah, I was speaking.
I go, this is DDP.
Who?
I go, DDP, Diamond Dallas Page, DDP Yoga.
You're calling me?
I just.
Does this remind you of anything?
Does this remind you of anything?
That does the same thing to value data out there.
It's the most entertaining part of what we do.
People freak out.
Dude, that's great.
People freak out.
Great experience.
Pat, let me ask you something while we're on this topic.
You've always been a fit guy.
I mean, this guy was in the army.
He was a bodybuilder.
I don't know if you've got these pictures, but this guy is in great shape.
You guys are the same size pretty much.
But lately, you've been working out more than ever.
You're getting up at 6 a.m. and you're doing hardcore workouts.
He's telling you all the benefits.
He's 66 years old.
He's bending over.
Like, how much better do you feel since you've changed your physical workout regimen every morning your life?
Night and day.
Night and day.
I mean, it's not even a question about what it does to your body.
If I don't work out, I just don't feel better.
It's very weird to display.
If you look at that picture right there, look at that guy to the left.
Look at that guy.
I'm 6'1135 to the left.
And then to the right, I'm in the Army.
That's my Army barracks on the bottom.
You got that enemy?
Click on that one?
What about that?
Look at the pictures.
It's all Flakes Magazine.
It's all Angel Tebbit.
Go down a little bit.
This one, dude, Pat, are you kidding me, dude?
No, that's Valley Total Fitness Culver City in the basement.
You were ready for the ring.
Hey, brother, you listen here right now.
But to do what he just did at 66 years old, I'm 43.
To be able to do that in 23 years, that's like pinnacle.
The only thing I know what to do is to be 43 years old.
I only know 43 and less than that.
I have no clue what it is at 66.
So that's just major problems and respect, brother, for you to do what you're doing, the way you just stood up and did that.
So you helped that man out.
You helped a lot of different guys out to change their lifestyle with the drugs.
You were talking about earlier when he said, Jake, I would look at him.
He just said he didn't have another dream.
There's no other dream that he was looking forward to.
Every time somebody died, he was hoping it's him.
So you helped shape that mindset of somebody like him to look forward to the dream.
Is that kind of what you did?
Well, he had a really, dark childhood.
And he carried that.
And it probably helped him do some really great interviews later.
But we were doing, when I brought Jake into my house, and then later Scott as well, everybody thought I was crazy.
Like I was bringing addicts.
Everybody gave up on both of them.
Kevin Nash didn't give up on Scott Hall.
But besides that, everybody giving up on both of those guys.
And when Jake came in, I mean, we got interviewed by Deadline and, you know, and Yahoo Sports and HBO Sports came.
Like everyone was like, they were so blown away by the story.
And I didn't look at it as bringing an addict into my house.
I looked at it as bringing it to my brother, who literally, and both of those guys were very instrumental in my career, having the career I had.
And Jake would, when he'd get on his thing, he'd start talking about this dark shit again.
And I looked at the guy and I said, can you hold on a second?
I just want to talk to him for a minute.
And I pulled him in the next room.
I said, bro, I get you have this past, but if you keep holding on to this past, we're never going to get by that.
I go, what about all the amazing things?
You have eight kids and right now, four of them are talking to you again.
That's a big deal, right?
He goes, of course it is.
I go, yeah.
Nobody would book you for more than 500 bucks.
At the time, he was making like 2,500.
I go, you're up five times in your booking fee because people know they can count on you.
What about all the amazing things that are happening in your life?
And he's just started changing it.
Then he would walk up to people because he's doing my program, right?
And he's feeling so much better.
And in the beginning, he's got to use a chair.
He's got to use this.
He's got to use that.
All of a sudden, he doesn't use any of that.
And he's so much stronger, has so much more confidence.
That's the number one thing of DDPY builds.
Confidence.
Because people can't do that in the beginning, bringing it foot over their head.
But then they can.
You know what's crazy?
I'm watching it and I'm listening to you.
The relationship, the calls, the lifting out, the motivation, the looking at Scott and saying, here's what I want you to do.
Shave the mustache, have a four o'clock shave, more for him at two o'clock.
I've never had this mustache since 15 years old.
Don't worry about it.
That's the problem.
We've got to cut it off.
It's you doing the management part at first, where they say you can't do it anymore.
It's very obvious you would have made a great manager if you would have continued doing that.
You're great in sales.
You're great in relationship.
You could have made a hell of a sales leader.
You could have made a hell of a, you know, because you're also looking at people, how you can improve them, right?
You're looking at everything on how you can improve them.
You're watching tape.
You're watching.
You could have gone in a different field and done very, very well for yourself, whether it was wrestling or not, just from watching that.
Career earnings for somebody like you.
What is career earnings for somebody like you?
What kind of money did you make in wrestling?
Wrestling when it was all said and done probably made close to six or seven million.
And what did you make outside of it while you're wrestling?
I'm talking like sponsorship, you know, stuff like that.
Did you get a lot of that as well?
There was some, but nothing that was significant.
But since then, like, I can say it took eight years for, it took eight years in wrestling before I made money, before my career blew up.
It was an overnight success.
Same thing with DDP Yoga.
And then both.
Eight years.
And I've made eight times that.
Eight times that, yeah, just from your program.
Well, maybe six, six times that.
40 million bucks.
That's a lot of money.
That's solid money to be able to do that.
In wrestling, who's the highest paid of all time?
Like, who's made the most money?
The goat is Rick, but I don't think Rick's the highest.
I mean, I got to put the rock up there.
I would say, I would say, Hulk, because remember, Hulk rocks rock.
If you take overall wealth, The Rock's the king, The Rock's The Rock's the Mac Daddy, because he's making $30 million a movie now.
I'm talking strictly, not outside, I'm talking strictly from the wrestling world.
I would have to say John Cena over here.
I would say John Cena would be up there, sure.
Uh, but um, I would say Hulk would have been up there all-time, though.
That's just for the year, yeah.
I'm curious to know what the all-time is.
I'm curious to know, like, if it's you know, uh, all-time highest-paid wrestler.
I'd be so curious to know what it, what the okay, there you go, Mick Foley, 18 million, Chris Jericho, 18 million.
Keep going, Kurt Angle, 25 million.
Interesting, you got Hulk 25 million, yeah, but I think that's net worth now.
What they're net worth, you know, and I don't really know how much of that is because these are numbers people kind of pull together.
Vince is an easy one to figure out because Triple H wouldn't be up there, Triple H.
Oh, he absolutely would be.
He absolutely like 150.
But again, he also is part of the uh if you're talking just wrestling, though, like money you made on because it says rock is worth 400, but it's not from wrestling, right?
Yeah, it's on everything, yeah.
But without his wrestling, without his wrestling base, rock's not the rock.
Oh, my God!
You know what I mean?
Yeah, when I saw him do Saturday Night Live the very first time, I said, I said to myself, gonna be the biggest star in the world.
You knew that knew it because he can do anything.
Like, he taught himself guitar.
Like, there's things that The Rock did.
Like, he would just amazing some of the things that he came up with.
Like, he wrote a song, you know, and he just like crazy, funny stuff that, and he just is just an amazing performer.
Like, he has changed and opened the door for wrestlers as actors.
Like, people can't because wrestling people, a lot of people look down their nose.
Well, guess what, Hollywood?
The biggest star in the world's a wrestler, and not a guy who walked away from it, still does so much stuff for us.
He's got a show on TV called Young Rock, you know, that he produces as a kid, him as a kid with all the wrestlers.
He never turns his nose away from his fan base where it all started.
And but The Rock's the most loved guy on the planet.
I honestly, God believe, and I know it's I said this way a long time ago, but he could be the president of the United States.
We talk about it all the time, yeah.
And he, but serious discussion, seriously, but do you really want that?
And you know what?
He might, I don't know, but I think he would be amazing.
I remember one point they were kidding around about it and saying Tom Hanks is vice president.
I think that way they totally kill everybody then.
What do you think about that video Rock did calling out Trump?
Where are you?
Where is he?
Yeah, he kind of almost sounded like Batman.
You know, he went straight at Trump, bro.
Yeah, and you know, I that it took balls because all those frigging red guys they luck him.
Well, that kind of pissed a bunch of them off.
But you know, when people say to me, like, you're a Republican or a Democrat, I say, I think you both suck.
You know, I don't think either one's trying to help the other, which is us, the other.
They're not trying to help us.
They don't give a shit about themselves and their own agendas.
And they all lie about everything and never get busted.
You know, it's mind-boggling.
Trump would make appearances at WWE.
Would he not?
Didn't he fight Vince McMahon?
He is in the Celebrity Wing Hall of Famer.
Have you ever had to?
Have you ever had to, have you ever interacted with Trump?
Have you ever been there when the whole wrestling thing?
I never was there when he was doing that.
I met him once when he literally first got with his wife, and it was at an Elizabeth Glager 8 Foundation thing, and he was super nice.
He was super nice.
You know, the guy, you know.
I hated the stuff he did on Twitter and now the big whole thing with Elon and Twitter and everything.
But, you know, I hated because he really could have just turned the curb.
He could have turned the curve once he got in there because he's a very charismatic cat, you know, and, you know, he could have been, to me, could have been much better at doing the president thing, you know, and trying to pull us together, you know, but it is what it is.
Again, I think all politicians are bullshit.
He brought up the Elon Musk Twitter thing.
I mean, this is something we've been talking about for weeks now.
I'm sure you've now that it's been 24 hours since it's happened.
How are you processing this since yesterday, Pat?
They realized the poison pill was going to backfire and they were going to be in court for the rest of their lives.
And finally, they caved and they said, Elon, you know, shit, we can't do nothing about it.
I guarantee you this took place.
I'm telling you right now.
Now, I may be wrong.
Lawyers, they had a meeting with the legal team.
They said, okay, what can we do at this point if we pull the poison pill?
You can pull the poison pill.
Just make sure when the market finds out you didn't let Elon Musk buy Twitter and he sells off his 9.2%, the same amount of shares he owns as Morgan Stanley, just make sure you can make the stock go up the next three quarters.
Because if it goes below 30, after you push Elon away and he sells off the other 9.2, if it goes below 30, we're going to be in court for five, 10 years.
If you guys are okay with that, then use the poison pill.
If not, let the man buy the company.
And then finally, everybody looked around and there were certain people that probably still didn't want to do it and they wanted to still use the poison pill.
But some of the guys that are just on the board to help the company make more money said, sell the company.
I'm telling you, I think the decision was made that logically.
And then they sold off to Elon.
They couldn't do anything.
Elon, one thing you got to say about this guy, man.
Listen, you know, name the greatest trolls of all time.
Trump's on that list.
If you say trolls, right?
Name the greatest trolls of all time.
Jake Paul's up there.
Jake Paul's coming up, but he's a young troll.
I'm talking like legendary trolls of all time.
You got to put him up there.
You got to put, you know, who else would you put in the wrestling world and UFC?
got to put connor in that world as a great troll shit talker i'm talking getting under the skin type of a yeah so text exchange came up right You want to show the text exchange between Muslim Gates.
I don't know if you saw this or not.
So here's a text exchange that came out.
Make it a little smaller so we can see it.
So the first text goes out, can you do it or no?
So apparently, Bill Gates hits up Elon Musk to discuss philanthropy on climate change.
But Elon asked if he still had a half a billion dollars short on Tesla.
Bill said yes, he hasn't closed it out.
So Elon told him to get lost.
No idea if this is true.
LOL.
Well, Elon responds.
Here's what he said on the bottom right there.
He says, do you still have a half million dollars?
He says, sorry, but I cannot take your philanthropy on climate change seriously when you have a massive short position against Tesla, the company doing the most to solve climate change.
And so people ask Elon Musk, and look what he said.
Go out there and click on his Twitter account to see if this is bullshit and if this is real, right?
No, you should first go to his account and then you can go to that trolling.
He responds, go a little lower.
You'll see one of the ones when he responds.
And he says, that is the text exchange.
I don't know who got it.
Go a little lower.
Go a little lower.
He responds somewhere there that he did respond.
Okay, anyways, go back to the post that he put up there, Bill Gates.
And then he posted this, in case you need to lose a boner fast.
That's Bill Gates and that image of Apple Twitter.
So you're basically saying that Elon Musk is one of the greatest trolls of all time.
They're not the ground at this point.
What I'm saying to you is, what I'm saying to you is this guy cornered Twitter's board to say, I dare you to not let me buy the company.
I dare you.
I think that's how it happened.
What was the poll you did yesterday about Elon Musk?
I asked the question.
I said, what percentage of you, how will you react with Elon Musk?
What do you call it?
Buying Twitter?
Number one, are you leaving?
And I said, number two, will you be more active?
Number three, you know, you don't have to.
No division.
You know, something like that.
And I'll be more active.
Nothing will change.
And then who cares?
You know how many people said leaving?
2%.
Everybody was like, yeah, I'm going to be more active.
The one that won the most was I'll be more active.
Don't forget what Elon did.
Elon came out and he said, do you guys know the top 10 most followed people on Twitter?
They rarely ever tweet.
He says, do you know that Justin Bieber hasn't tweeted about so many times?
Do you know that such and such person, do you know that Barack Obama only tweets this many times?
Why do we have the top biggest accounts that are not active on Twitter?
He's asking the right question.
The whole blue, you know, that everybody wants that blue check mark.
He says, why don't we just give the blue check mark to everybody that pays $2.99 a month?
Why don't we do that?
If you pay $2.99 a month, let's get rid of all the bots.
If you pay $2.99 a month, you're not fake because all these people are creating these fake accounts.
Let's eliminate all these fake accounts that are out there because they're not paying $2.99 a month.
I mean, I love what this guy is doing.
So anybody and everybody can get the blue chip if you pay $2.99 a month, whatever the fee is going to be.
Now he's allowing, you know, the new CEO made a few changes that they allow you to put 10-minute videos.
We couldn't do that before.
It was $2.20.
Now you can't put a 10-minute video.
Anyways, the market's very, very happy.
However, yesterday, the legendary Brian Stelter, which I don't know if you follow him, he's a famous wrestler.
He goes by the thumb.
He's a famous.
We can't play that.
But he said something.
He says, well, I just want you to think about this.
Imagine you have two parties to go to.
One party, you can say whatever you want to say and you're free.
And another party you go to, people have to be a little bit more responsible with what they say.
Which party would you want to go to?
And then somebody comments on my tweet and he says, I can't imagine him having ever been to a single party in his life before.
Because the biggest thing is people don't believe the guy's 34 years old.
That guy to the left is 34 years old.
That's what I'm just about to say.
He's 34 years old.
Brian, do yourself a favor.
Contact Diamond Dallas Page on how to look younger.
Start doing some DDPY years old.
He needs DDPY more than anybody.
Back to Elon because we're on this topic right now.
Did you see the latest with Jack Dorsey?
No.
Did you see what Jack Dorsey had to say about Elon?
I sent that to you on Slack.
What do you think Jack Dorsey's response about Elon buying Twitter is?
First of all, what do you think?
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
How many conversations do you think Elon and Jack have had in the process of him buying Twitter?
What do you think?
Non-stop.
Are you kidding me?
Like, you know how he said he said it's a fan of their brotherhood?
Dude, these guys are PayPal Mafia Brotherhood only.
They're texting, calling.
They live by a certain code that nobody else knows about.
Jack's known it for the longest time.
Elon's already told Jack, I want you to be on the board.
You know, all this conversation.
They've already had the conversations.
And on top of that, what did come out yesterday, which was interesting, because I said the five things that was going to happen once Elon bought it, I said, number one, he's going to buy Twitter, take it private.
Number three, he's going to do whatever he's doing with Brady's picture to be eliminated.
Then it's going to be Trump's going to be back and then mainstream's going to lose their mind and all this stuff.
But the one thing that the story is not coming out is even if Twitter lets Trump back on, he may not want to come back on because he's still pushing Truth Social.
Oh, get out of here with this.
Truth Social was yesterday.
Truth Social has officially put the nail in the coffin.
You don't think he's just going to come back to Twitter now?
That's not truth social has ruled out right there.
Trump will not return to Twitter, even as Elon Musk purchases platform, will begin his own truth social.
By the way, I don't think that's a smart move.
I don't think that's a smart move.
No, I don't think that's a good question.
Go back to Jack Dorsey's quote about Elon.
I was going to say, even Melania doesn't use truth.
Like, the only person that uses truth is Trump, and nobody can get on it, right?
Elon is the singular solution, I trust.
That's some pretty high praise.
But it's not, it's not, this is, he said this to Elon before he said it to public.
He said this to Elon before he said it to Trump.
It's all a work.
Yeah.
That's what we call it, Marbis.
It's all set up.
And for this cat, with all the bazillions of dollars he has, he's kind of known.
He has a plan.
And the plan, like you said, was already discussed before it went out there.
And he already knew who the votes were coming in that he needs and who else he needs, you know, who's going to partner with him.
To me, I don't believe anything anymore.
It's like, just do your thing, Elon.
Go for it.
Well, you know what they say.
Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face.
And that's what happened last week at Mike Tyson, the guy in the flight.
Did you see that?
That pissed me off so bad.
I watched that kid.
He was really aggravating.
I don't know why the Stewards didn't come over and go, you, sit down, shut up.
I mean, something.
I mean, he would really.
He had a record.
Apparently, he had a record and he's been, I don't know, there were some stories about the guy that came up about him having a record.
Did you see that, Tyler, or no?
Yeah, he has several different charges he's been arrested for.
Look, clearly, the guy's got a screw-loose if you're talking shit to Mike Tyson.
Clearly, you've got a loud mouth or you're a drinking problem or an agenda.
An agenda.
15 minutes of time.
So here's my question.
DDP, you're a massive dude.
I mean, how often does somebody say, what's up, DDP?
You got to go.
Nobody tried to talk about you?
Never.
Everybody, they know who I am.
And the people who don't, you can see by the way I carry myself.
I'm not the guy.
You just do something with my wife.
That's a different story.
But I mean, you can't piss me off.
I just, you know, I eliminate your voice.
What do you think?
And I don't get it.
I really don't get that ever because, like, I mean, I help a lot of people.
But what do you think was going through Tyson's mind?
I mean, I'm talking putting yourself in a position of a high-profile, major athlete, tough guy, which you are.
And Tyson is sitting on the plane, you know, doing his things.
He's probably on a mushroom or two.
It's certainly high.
And this jackass is just going off on him.
I'm getting a little bit more.
And putting the stewardess and go, can you move that asshole?
Or can you shut him up?
You know, he's bothering my wife.
Like, I'm not going to let him step into my space.
You know, when you're in this scenario, there is an ulterior motive.
It's not just maybe in the beginning he was a little excited about it, but after a while, he's just being an asshole.
You know, he has no respect for anyone's space, and he's got some kind of issue.
But the stewardesses, you know, they're pretty strict these days.
You know, since 9-11, you know, it's a different animal.
How did the stewardess, was he first to ask?
The internet never loses.
It's undefeated.
Look at this right here.
Air Marshall and then Mike Tyson beating the shit out of some guy.
Right.
How did the stewardess not show up?
How did other people not see what was about to go on?
Again, I thought that I'm looking at that.
I'm going, is this a work?
I mean, where is Bing being like hitting the button?
Now, what kind of...
And Mike doesn't deserve to be treated like that in any way, shape, or form.
You're talking about a guy who's turned his life around.
Pat interviewed him for an hour.
And it was one of the coolest things talking to that guy.
But question for you.
How many guys who were in wrestling, let's just say he lost to another guy that was the one that, you know, let's just say Vince or Eric is building a guy up to be like a face and you lost.
But how many guys were like, well, listen.
If this was a real fight, I'd beat the hell out of you.
Was there any guys like that that were like, of course there were street fighters that were like, I would crush you if we got into a street fight.
Yeah, but it's not why you get into the business.
It's a show.
Yeah, it's a show.
Earlier years, like, yeah, they called him shooters.
You know, like, if he didn't want to lose, you weren't losing.
Like, nobody was going to move Andre DeGiant around if he didn't want to be let moves around.
You know, because Andre was like, and Big Show was the same way.
I remember Big Show was wrestling with him, and I did this one spot.
And Big Show is, you know, seven foot one, 500 pounds.
He's shack size.
Yeah, shack size.
Bigger, bigger.
And they sit against each other.
Look at that.
Yeah, there they are right there.
And I go to shoot him off.
He reverses me and he goes to clothesline me.
And I hooked him and I'm his arms like this.
My legs over here.
My arms are here.
And then I slide down.
And now I'm laying on my back.
And I'm trying, it's called a sunset flip.
I'm trying to pull him over.
And it's a giant spotty.
And then he reaches down and he grabs me by the throat, right?
And he's going to pick me up.
Now, I'm on my back.
I'm going to give him a boost.
I'm going to push and slide so it makes it easier.
My foot slipped.
And now I'm deadweighting him.
And he picks me up like I'm five.
I'm 255 pounds.
This is the big show you're talking about.
Yes.
Picks me up like I'm right.
Type in Big Show DDP.
Holy crap.
He picks you up like you're five.
Like I was five years old and I'm looking down.
Everybody went, whoa, because you could really see like it was a shoot.
And he's got me by the throat here.
I'm looking down on him.
I go, okay, now don't kill me.
And he's going to spin me and drop me on my back.
But, you know, it was just like moments like that really stick out in my thought.
Like, okay, that was.
Let me ask you.
It's a Pat's question.
This is a real question now.
He asked, like, you know, competitive nature, who doesn't want to lose.
If you actually had to pick a tag team partner in a real life fight, like, oh, shit is going down, you know?
And I want to spot myself.
I got one guy that's on my side and a real fight is happening.
Who's your first pick?
His name would be Ming.
Also went by Tonga, which is his real name.
Samoan dude, friggin, sweetest guy on the planet.
But you would not want to be on a bad side.
Really?
Pull him up, Tom.
This guy was a certified badass mofo.
Yeah, put up M-I-N-G.
There he's right there.
It looks like he's got the Hawaiian shirts off.
The King thing now.
Why is he your first pick?
Because he was just notorious for, you know, friggin, everyone, you know, like baddest guy alive.
Really?
Yes.
It was known.
Yes, everyone.
Like throughout WWE, WCW, everyone knew.
Everyone.
What was it about him that just he can kick anyone out?
I think there was, I don't remember the exact thing.
I wasn't there, but it was like he beat up five guys, you know, like in a bar fight.
Because they would, like, why would you pick on that guy or challenge that guy?
Like, and I. You're looking for trouble.
Yeah.
And I don't know the exact story, but I mean, one of the greatest, sweetest guys you've ever met, though.
How do you balance being, like you're saying, the greatest, sweetest guy ever with also being able to beat the shit out of five guys at once?
How does that yin-yang balance work?
Because he was a great human being and, you know, he was also a badass.
You can be both.
Yeah.
Like you could be a manly man and also do DDPY yoga.
Absolutely.
And friggin Chuck Zito.
You know, Chuck Zeto's one of the baddest son of bitches on the planet, but he is a freaking sweetheart, man.
You know, the guy was president of the Hell's Angels, New York chapter for 25 years.
Sweetheart guy, man.
That's great.
I asked this question because, you know, in the NFL, you had Marvin Harrison, who, you know, legendary player.
Wide receiver.
Yeah.
Yeah, of course.
But do you know, like, the reputation of Marvin, he was feared by everybody.
Marvin had, you know, links to gangs and, you know, murder, you know, some real stories.
Ray Carruth, everybody sees and knows.
Like, oh, he went to Joe.
Pac-Man Jones, you know, some of those stories.
But Marvin was like, you just don't cross the line with Marvin Harrison.
He had that.
You didn't know that?
No.
You should look it up.
Marvin Harrison is known as a guy that was feared, respected.
You didn't cross that guy.
That's why sometimes you wonder the background of these guys.
By the way, different style.
Eric Bishop, you talk about Eric, who, you know, he's doing what he's doing.
And you said if he would have continued, you know, at one point, you guys are competing.
Those guys are about to lose bankruptcy, all this stuff.
What is the biggest difference between Eric and the way Vince led and marketed and told story?
What was the difference?
Well, I think more than anything, and this was great, when Bischoff was running WCW, even when we were doing great, it was constant conflict with the office.
Meaning like to Turner people, who were owned by Ted Turner, not Ted, but their people look down at wrestling.
And when Vince was fighting for his life, his whole company is a wrestling superstars.
He took away the word wrestling, whatever.
Sports entertainers.
It's his company.
It's his lifeline.
It's his legacy.
It's everything.
And Eric didn't have that.
If he could have been doing it on his own, who knows what would have happened.
But when you work in the corporate world, you know, you've been all through that.
And it's so hard.
Then there's the jealousy thing and all of that.
When it's your company and it's your brand, yes.
And Vince is really the one with Hulk that changed the whole format.
By the way, you know who gets a lot of credit for that story you just told?
Dana White.
Because Dana is only a 10% owner of the company.
And Dana was able to work, you know, politics, WME, two owners came.
They bought it for $2 million.
He got 10%.
And he was still able to move it up, even though it's not his company.
He's only a 10% guy of the company.
It's not like he's 51%.
There's a difference between Dana and Vince, but Dana still was able to pull off the product.
Which product to the audience that doesn't, I'm going to show something here on the internet I want these guys to see on YouTube.
But which one do you do you think UFC today's surpassed the audience and the eyeballs that wrestling gets?
Or do you think wrestling is still ahead of UFC?
I think that UFC would be bigger at this point because I think it's very cyclical wrestling.
It's up and it's down.
And it's really like it's harder now to really understand how many people are watching.
And to give you an example, and this was genius.
Everybody thought it was like, oh, God, what a waste of time.
WWE Network.
You know, they're losing money.
They're this, they're that, and everything.
Well, I guess it was two years ago.
Vince leased, not sold, but leased the network to Peacock for $1 billion for five years.
Lease.
Leased.
They don't own shit.
They are using because they, what is the most important thing on any, whether it's Paramount Peacock content?
A thousand percent.
Well, now we've got a ton of different shows.
It looked like when Vince was going to, you know, WWF was going to get trade to WWE.
Oh my God, they ruined his brand and they spent all these years, you know, and Vince fought for it, didn't get it.
Best thing ever happened to him.
And this, I'm going to use an example of this in a second.
But so many times, what looks like the worst thing that ever happened to you can be the best.
And what when I blew, when I tore my rotator cuff and they let me go when I was 36, Jake came and lived with me for three months and then got me booked wherever we went to.
He became my mentor on the how I told stories.
And it took years to really become a really good storyteller.
But if I don't tear my rotator cuff and get fired, that never happens.
When I blow my back out and they tell me my wrestling career is over and I've just signed this multi-million dollar contract, it's going to go bye-bye.
And I come back, great that I get back and live the dream.
But what looks like the worst thing ever happened to me is not only the best thing ever happened to me, it's the best thing that happened to Jake, to Scott, to people who are in a change or die.
I've got hundreds of thousands of transformations.
When I tell people, don't listen to a word I say about DDP yoga.
Don't listen to a word.
Community.
One of my buddies, Chris Gabriano, started this just page on Facebook.
Just a regular page.
DDP Yoga, one word.
And it was a thousand people.
And then there were five.
And now there's over 70,000 people.
You have to read that page.
You will never believe what people put up there.
You see, remember when, and we both do this, we call people, we show people we really actually give a shit about what we're doing.
That's very, very, very rare.
So in this scenario, anyone who came to this one site I had originally called Team DDP Yoga, I would welcome them.
Every single person, me.
And then it built into this thing on Facebook, which they saw the way I would come through and talk to people.
And I do the likes.
I put comments.
It's me.
It's not somebody imitating me.
And I'll get on there for like two hours and just do that.
So much so, my app, my DDP Yoga Now app, which I always tell people don't go to iTunes or Google Play.
They charge too much.
I don't charge anywhere near as much.
If you go to ddpyoga.com and I give you seven days free to try it.
The bottom line is every Monday is motivational Monday.
Every Tuesday, there's a new workout.
By the way, there's over 300 of both of those.
Every Wednesday is a new cooking show.
Gluten-free, dairy-free, healthy, great tasting food.
Because I don't care how healthy something is.
If it don't taste great, I'm not eating it.
Not eating it.
And how I feel is what when I'm feeding my body is how my body is healing itself.
Your food will heal you and food will fuck you.
Fake food.
Like you've never got me to eat fast fake food ever.
Now I know what's in it.
I'm not eating that shit.
But again, healing your body.
So back to the fabulous, the fabulous Fridays.
I just go on that Facebook page.
70,000 people, you know, stuff just keeps rolling through.
So I go on there and I just start picking stories because I want to read someone's story and what they wrote and the pictures they put up of themselves.
Because I've got those six pictures, front, side, fold forward, and one's putting the foot up in the air.
Can't fake that shit.
So when you see a person who can't pick their foot off the ground, a foot, and then six months later, it's holding over his head, that's core strength at a different level.
But the stuff that they write, can you pull up on Facebook, pull it up there, and let's see if what people DDP Yoga one word on Facebook.
Yeah, one word, Facebook, and let's just see just some of the okay, just zoom down.
Is that it?
I think that's a DDP yoga one.
I'm talking about the members one.
Just go up there and just put in the search DDP Yoga one word.
And you're saying one word because they get the opportunity to describe DDP.
No, no, just one word.
I wrote it.
I originally would write it.
Just pull up.
Can you pull up Facebook?
Tyler, you're about to get a diamond card right now, buddy.
By the way, we do have a few callers that people want to talk to you.
So you want to take some callers.
Sure.
But what's my point?
Is you wouldn't believe the shit that pictures.
What link would you want guys to go if they want to find out more about it?
Do you want to go to the website or no?
Yeah, go to the website.
That's what I'm talking about.
This guy.
Do you believe that?
But look at him right next to him wearing his thousand hours on the app shirt.
Look at that.
Look how much better he looks when he's wearing the shirt of his own.
But the women put up those pictures.
Look at this.
Drew was determined to change his life in 16 months.
He went from 390 to 210.
Now he's owning his life by sharing his story with others.
Talk about a motivational Monday.
And that's all my company one.
The one I'm talking about is the one members go.
Awesome.
And they help each other.
There's never been a community like it.
And that's the biggest thing I'm the proudest of.
By the way, did you know Victor Rivera?
Victor Rivera.
Yeah.
So I know the name Victor Rivera.
Okay.
Somebody asked in a question: Do you know Victor Rivera?
I don't know what that question means.
Is he a wrestler?
Is he?
No, I know a guy.
Okay.
No, he's not a wrestler.
Okay.
Let's bring Victor Rivera in right now off the top.
Luis Maciel just asked a question, Dallas.
They say competition breeds innovation.
Do you think Vince will ever have competition like the Monday Night Wars again?
I can't imagine it.
You know, just because the AEW, which is the new wrestling program out there, is really good and the product's really good.
But it's like the WWE is, oh, I was out down there at WrestleMania.
They did two nights in a row of WrestleMania with over 78,000 people one night and 84,000 the other night.
Two nights of it.
That's crazy.
I have a quick question about these people, right?
Because it's been forever since I've been to a wrestling match.
But you talked about being in LA and then going to Kansas City and then coming down to Fort Martin.
I mean, just like what's the crowd like at these wrestling events?
What type of people?
What type of energy?
I'm not saying politically, but like philosophically, what do they stand for?
Tell us about the crowd at these events.
The people who love wrestling love wrestling, you know, and they appreciate it.
They know it's a show and they care about the characters and they're ravenous, man.
Like, you know, you can't imagine, like, unless you're really at a live event, you've never seen wrestling.
You know, because when you see how they're part of the show, you know, it's like people like, oh, God, they're booing him or they're cheering him.
It's really, you want them to do either.
You don't want them to do nothing.
That's right.
Powerful.
You don't want them to do nothing.
By the way, so do we have callers?
Yes, we have Julian on the phone.
Julian, how are you?
Good.
How are you doing?
Fantastic.
So what question do you have for DDP?
My question is, did you get paid off of your likeness being used in the Nintendo games that you're a part of?
And were you involved in any of the production in the games?
Yeah, I always got paid.
We got some kind of VIG.
The company gets the major part of the VIG.
And we get a little piece, but it's still, hey, I call it mailbox money.
I've always had anything to do with my character.
I want to be there and go through the moves.
And today they can put these things all over you.
I mean, I just did one the other day where you're wearing this suit and the way you walk.
And I've got a pretty distinct swag walk that freaking, you can tell like that character's that person or how they do their gestures and stuff.
So that's pretty interesting.
The way they do it today, it's like these video games look like the real people.
It doesn't feel like a video game.
It feels like you're watching a show.
Right.
It's just like you stepped into it.
So Nelson here says, love you, DDP.
You're my childhood hero.
Can you talk about your experience filming The Guardians of Justice?
Love your Batman-esque character.
Batman-esque character.
That's a new show that just came out.
It's an Adi Shankar experience.
A buddy of mine who is a very talented cat, and he's always way far ahead of the cutting edge.
He put together, we were shooting this originally for YouTube.
It was just going to be a bunch of shorts.
And then we had some pretty good stuff there.
So we thought, well, let's turn it into a movie because he's been a part of filming Walk Among the Tombstones and the Gray and Judge Dredd.
So he's a real producer.
And it was too long by the time we got there.
In the meantime, he was doing something different with a show called Castlevania on Netflix.
And they were like, what else do you have?
And he brought up Guardians of Justice.
And then they started editing all the CGI.
And there's eight different types of 2D animation, 3D animation and claymation worked into this story that's a series, you know, seven episodes, dark satire.
And I, you know, Batman never gets older than 40, right?
Batman never gets older than 40.
But Nighthawk, he's in his 60s and he drinks and he smokes and he takes painkillers because he needs them and he kills for the greater good, you know, and he and he knows how to save the world.
And it was a lot of fun to do.
And now I'm a legitimate superhero.
That's pretty sick.
Okay, John, let's take one more caller.
We have Sammy on the line.
Sammy, how you doing?
Hello.
Sammy, can you hear me?
Yes, I can.
Fantastic.
So what's your question for DDP?
Yes.
My question is, I'm not receiving the value that I'm paying for at university.
I'm going to drop out.
I'm worried that I'm making a terrible mistake.
What are you guys' thoughts on that?
What do you think about that?
This kid's going to college.
He's thinking he's wasting his time.
Should he drop out or continue going to school?
You know, I don't, you know, to me, I think every person who gets out of high school, first of all, I love what Israel does where they make him go right into the army for a year.
You know, it's a great way to learn and grow.
And a lot of people, like my daughter took off three years before she started college.
She didn't like it.
She quit.
And then she came back and then she knew what she really wanted to do.
I don't think so.
It depends on how old you are, Sammy.
You know, it depends on what you really believe and what your passion is.
One thing I can tell you, and all three of us get this, whatever it is you're going to try to do, it should be something you love to do.
Because the key is to find something that you love to do and figure out a way to get someone to pay you to do it.
Because that's really what it's not the American dream.
It's the dream world dream.
And a lot of people are just going to school, you know, and compiling all that debt.
You know, like I made my daughter, when it came down to it, like, fill out all your loan papers.
No, because I'm not going to do that for you.
I want you to do it.
I'm not going to saddle you with debt.
You're going to, you know, and then, and she dropped out.
And then she came back and now she's an editor, you know, and she's doing what she loves to do.
So then you never feel like you're working.
Right.
Good for.
But by the way, the story with you and Jay-Z, what happened with the diamond stuff with you and Jay-I've read about it.
I'm like, this can't be real, but apparently it's a real story.
It was real.
And all I'm allowed to say, and you'll appreciate this, is the God, how would I say it now?
It's been so long since I said anything about it.
The matter has been resolved.
And I tell you what, I got a lot of respect for Jay-Z just for what he's done to help a lot of people, too.
So I got a lot of respect for Jerry.
Is there a difference between what he does and what you do?
Look at this.
Tyler put this up there.
Remember when Jay-Z paid royalties to Diamond Dallas Perry for hand just?
Now I can read this.
But Diamond Dallas Pair.
It's pretty epic because.
But it's not the same thing.
My hands were open.
It was closed.
But it was all the same thing.
You own the diamond, baby.
Yeah, you know, it's like he can do whatever he wants with it.
Who was the guy that wanted?
Who was the guy that bought the trademark to Three Pete?
Was it Pat Riley?
Yes.
Because he won it, and then somebody used it and he sued them.
He says, no, that's mine.
Do you know this?
I think Pat Riley owns.
He owns Three Pete.
He owns Three Pete.
Are you guys watching Winning Time on HBO, Max?
Oh, you give me.
The Magic Johnson Pat Riley story.
No, I'm not watching that.
We watch Man in the Arena and last time.
Is it that good?
Is it good?
This is so good to me.
That guy, John C. Riley, he's playing Jerry Buss.
The kid who's playing Magic, you're going to think it's magic.
He's so good.
You got to watch it.
I haven't seen it.
There's a part where Kareem Abdul Jabbar is talking to Magic's dad.
And, you know, Magic's saying, happy with everybody.
And he's, and, you know, Kareem, you know, pretty stoic.
He goes, so has he always been this happy?
And he goes, yeah.
He goes, so where are you from?
And his dad says, like, I'm from Mississippi.
So I've seen it all, you know, from the hanging corpses and the whole deal.
And he goes, he goes, yeah, you have.
And then the, you know, the magic guy is just, he's just, the guys can ball.
I mean, these guys can go.
It's a really fun.
How many episodes is it?
How many?
I want to say there's about six in right now.
Oh, it's six in, and it's all about magic.
It's no, it's about magic coming, Jerry Buss, you know, buying the company and how he did it.
I want to know that.
It's Jerry Buss.
I'm interested.
Oh, dude, you're going to love it because it's a lot like what Vince McMahon did.
Vince McMahon leveraged everything to get the company and was making all these promises because that's what he saw.
And then it happened.
Yo, vision's everything.
Like from when Steve, the movie, the documentary we have also up right now.
It's called Relentless.
And it goes from me blowing my back out to where we are today in Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Like he lived with me in LA when I was putting this whole thing together.
And he's like, kid, what are you thinking?
You're never going to get people to do yoga who wouldn't be caught dead doing yoga.
It's not that I don't believe in you, kid, because, you know, you're a miracle worker, you know, but he's calling you, kid.
Yeah, we call each other kid, you know.
But he, you know, he didn't get it.
And the bottom line is, I saw it.
And I would tell people all the time, when I inducted Jake in Hall of Fame, I said, never underestimate the power you give someone by believing in them.
More importantly, never underestimate the power you give yourself by believing in you.
And that's what it takes.
And the guy kid who called earlier, you need to believe in what you're doing and what your focus is.
Sammy, listen up, man.
What an advice.
So daughter goes to college.
I want you to sign the paperwork.
Not me.
And then she drops out and then she goes and becomes an editor.
Well, yeah, she got her.
She got her degree and she got a job.
But on her own, she chose to do it.
She did all her stuff.
Fantastic.
Well, DDP, first of all, this has been a blast having you on, man.
Really enjoyed it.
I'm so glad we did this.
The stories, the motivation.
It's like a combination of a bunch of different things.
Again, I'm looking at you as a personality.
You could have made one hell of a sales leader, manager, agent for many stars.
The way you motivate me, sure.
I mean, he is a motivational speaker, but the point is, this could have gone many different angles.
This was a blast having you on.
And by the way, gang, in an hour, we're going to flip the set around.
DDP and his new wife, Paige, is going to come on my show, the SASCAS, and it's going to be like the late night show.
After party.
And by the way, after party.
And Adam's very, very prepared for this interview.
