PBD Podcast | EP 148 | Comedians Tony Hinchcliffe and Vincent Oshana
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PBD Podcast Episode 148. In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Adam Sosnick, Tony Hinchcliffe and Vincent Oshana
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About Tony:
Tony Hinchcliffe is a touring stand up comedian based out of Los Angeles. Tony is also the host of the popular live podcast Kill Tony which also travels internationally as well as being based out of The Comedy Store in L.A. In 2020, he began hosting an online course on “Roasting” called RoastMaster Class, drawing from his over decade long knowledge of writing for 8 Comedy Central Roasts and performing on roasts and roast battles, both educational and entertaining, the “RoastMaster Class” started as just a parody video and then became a real project that he began to enjoy doing, thus he released it upon the debut of his Patreon.
About Vincent:
Vincent Oshana is an American actor and comedian best known for his HBO Stand-Up Comedy Set on Russell Simmons's Def Comedy Jam and various roles on Showtime channel's television series The Underground.
He began his comedy career in his family's living room, imitating cartoon characters and TV personalities. After high school, Vincent joined the United States Air Force and was promoted to Staff Sergeant, earning medals for his various achievements.
About Co-Host:
Adam “Sos” Sosnick has lived a true rags to riches story. He hasn’t always been an authority on money. Connect with him on his weekly SOSCAST here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw4s_zB_R7I0VW88nOW4PJkyREjT7rJic
Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: booking@valuetainment.com
0:00 - Start
6:29 - Tony Hinchcliffe explains different types of comedy
13:23 - Reaction to Mike Tyson punching a passenger on his flight
20:31 - How Tony Hinchcliffe almost got cancelled
29:05 - Is there anything in comedy that cant be touched?
36:36 - Why comedians have to be able to push the envelope
46:25 - What happened with Netflix
56:53 - Why Netflix got too cocky
1:08:29 - What is happening with Disney
1:20:36 - Jen Psaki Cries over the Florida bill?!
1:28:18 - Elon Musk and Twitters poison pill
1:31:46 - CNN+ is SHUTTING DOWN
1:34:23 - Is Tony Hinchcliffe moving to Florida?
1:41:06 - Spotify drops Obamas podcast
2:02:33 - Is Will Smith being bullied by Jada?
I've been looking forward to the podcast for a while.
We've been out this entire week.
I've been in Orlando, but we got a special one for you today with obviously Adam Sostink, but we got Vinny Vincent O'Shana, a Syrian comedian, former Marine.
We got a marketing.
Air Force.
No, Air Force.
Air Force.
My apologies.
It's okay.
I'm not like the movie.
Nicer sleep, nicer rooms.
You guys don't exercise.
You chose to exercise, but it wasn't mandatory.
Yeah, exactly.
And then we also have Tony Hinchcliffe here with us.
Tony, the legendary Hinchcliffe.
I wasn't, what was it, Jacksonville?
Yeah.
And I was up there with yourself, Rogan, Hans.
We had a great time, by the way.
What a night it was.
And I'm listening to you perform.
Can I tell him one of your jokes or no?
Sure.
I'm going to tell him one of your jokes.
So he says, you know, the other day I got a friend of mine that called and he was very concerned.
He was concerned about his kid.
I said, what's going on?
He says, I just found out we're having a baby.
I said, that's good news.
Congratulations to you.
He says, yeah, but some bad news because we're having a girl.
He says, why are you upset?
He says, because I wanted a boy.
He says, don't worry.
Nowadays, she may change her mind.
Exactly.
Nowadays, you still got a chance.
Yeah, like you still got a chance.
Gender reveals now?
I'm sorry, people are still having gender revealed.
It's like, who are you to say what it is yet?
Yeah.
How dare you as a parent?
How dare you say that it's a boy or a girl?
You have to give it a chance.
The cool thing about that joke, by the way, I'll jump in, is that that's a true, like beat for beat, that was a real thing.
We were at dinner and it just happened just like that.
And I go, nowadays, you still got a chance.
You have to.
So do you, in that moment, say, this is material?
Yep.
That's actually like my writing process is I just wait until I say something that makes everybody like slam the table at the right time.
And then that's it.
Well, there was a couple moments because I noticed everybody was dropping jokes during dinner.
Yeah.
And then Joe was very quick to say, yeah, that's not funny.
Right, yeah, yeah.
That's what we do.
The relationship was great.
Everyone looking at Joe like, all right, was that good?
Is Joe the seeking approval like mentor, big brother at the dinner table?
Not to the people that he's friends with, you know, but to people who it's their first time hanging out with him, that's always interesting.
You guys go back 20 years.
You guys go back a long time.
Yeah, a really long time.
We've been doing the road together for over a decade.
So like, that's a lot.
Airplane rides and dinners and green rooms and shows.
Who's part of that crew that's been on the road together with you, Rogan, who else?
Well, I mean, Rogan's crew is famously like a bunch of badasses.
Like it's really, really comedians.
A lot of the comedians at Joe's level don't take, you know, real, real, real hard hitters with them.
They're a little bit afraid that they might get buried.
You know what I mean?
But he famously, I mean, Joey Diaz, Ari Shafir, Duncan Trussell, Burt Kreischer, Tom Segura, all these guys that are now, yeah, super, super top of the food chain have all been part of that.
Is Theo Vaughn part of that crew or no?
I think, yeah, I mean, yeah, we're all comedy store brothers, but he, he, I think he's only opened for Rogan a couple times on the right.
So that's the Rogan crew.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But to have headliners, bro, like that, hard hitters opening for you says a lot about who you are as a comic.
Because like he said, you want funny people.
People, you don't want the show to suck, but to have hitter-hitter, because you know, the show climbs.
And if it's just, if Joe doesn't step up, then it's just, it's horrible.
So, obviously, it's right.
And if it's climbing by the time that it's to me, then you know, parts on.
Yeah.
How'd you get into it?
How'd you get into?
Obviously, I ask you, but for people that don't know, how'd you get into it?
I mean, like most kids, I had I had a perfect, perfect regimen of a childhood to set me up for being a comedian.
Really, really dangerous neighborhood, different, diverse neighborhood, very dangerous at the time.
Single mom, dad, you know, crazy story with the dad, you know, everything.
Just teachers were mean.
You know, I was looking for any type of like love or respect from people.
And getting laughs from kids in class back then was everything.
It brought me like a certain amount of joy.
And I would get in trouble.
And, you know, they would tell my mom, Tony messed up again.
I'd be grounded.
And then I would, you know, once I get, once I got back, I just couldn't stop.
I couldn't stop making people laugh.
And the teachers told my mom at a young age, like, he's never going to really fit in with society.
Like, he's not going to be able to work a normal job.
And it stressed her out.
You know, I was her last kid, the fifth kid.
Everybody else was already in college.
I had much older siblings.
Like, it's just a perfect little recipe for the four above you.
Boy, what's the my brother's 12 years older than me, a sister 14, a brother 16 years older than me, and a sister 20 years old.
So two and two.
Yeah.
That's cool.
There's that big of an agency.
So you're the baby, baby, baby.
Yeah, it's a crazy, crazy story.
Yeah, and you guys are both comedians.
Did you guys both know that you were going to be comedians like when you were a kid?
Like, sounds like you had a perfect childhood of like, this kid ain't going to make it in the real world.
You know, comedy is kind of going to be for him.
Same story for both of you or what?
I got in.
I was, I can't tell you how many times I got in trouble where my parents had to come in, you know, having Middle Eastern parents.
It was like sitting and listening to everything that I did.
And then, and my mom's like, okay.
My father's like, wait, once we walk into the house, watch what's going to happen to you.
So I would just watch, like, my father watched George Carlin and all those.
I would just memorize that.
And he would make me act it out in front of like my father would drink.
And he'd be like, Vinny, Todd.
He bring me in the middle of a room and be like, just go.
And I would just do Carlin's whole set, swear to God.
And they're just laughing, dying, laughing, and drinking.
And I just knew it.
And then in the military, I was just, you know, getting in trouble the first day, the first day.
And you already know that's the, where they shake you down.
I got in trouble on that day, just trying to be a funny person.
It was over.
Tony, let me ask you.
You know how in mixed martial arts, there's different forms of art, right?
You got, you know, jiu-jitsu, taekwondo, you know, all these different ways you can go.
And they said, this guy's background is wrestling.
And Kobe knows how to wrestle, but stand-up game is going to be tough going up against XYZ.
Is there different kind of art in comedy like insult comedy, this comedy?
What different kind of comedy is there?
100%.
A lot of, you know, I mean, insult comedy is just one aspect of it.
But like, what really I think what it is, if we're using MMA as an analogy, is it's like, you know, some guys can do everything.
In some fights, they'll do wrestling and surprise you, sort of.
And some people, even though it's like, you know, Nate Diaz is like a what, a double black belt, like highest level jiu-jitsu guy.
You don't want to be stuck on top of him, right?
But meanwhile, you look at him and he's slapping around Connor McGregor, outboxing Conor McGregor, who boxed with Floyd Mayweather.
You know what I mean?
It's like, anyway, my point is, is a lot of comedians, I think, stick to an act, like a very set act.
And some of them are more loose.
Anything can happen.
You're making major adjustments to what show is in front of you right then at that moment.
And the ones that can make those adjustments, which is like a real, you know, comedy store type of trait, the ones that are really good at that can decide to improvise for the entire hour-long set if that's what they're feeling that night.
And that's fun.
Whereas a lot of comedians would panic in that situation because they didn't work on that and they didn't take those chances late at night and get really, really, really good at that and trusting your instincts and whatnot.
Would you say, oh, go ahead, Ben.
Is it similar to like creating a crew?
And then, you know, how we're having dinner and who was with us?
We're having dinner or first dinner.
We had a couple guys with us that were fighters.
The guy with the best highlight ever.
Ever, yeah.
But Bradley, is it the fence kick guy?
Not the fence kick guy.
No, no, they're both studs, by the way.
One of them, he just got into UFC.
He's doing his first five, but the other guy, you would know exactly.
Bradley, I want to say, anyways, he has one kick.
Do you remember the guy that kicks?
He holds his leg.
And then he starts.
And he flipped around.
Oh, yeah.
Fantastic guy.
Anyways, we're having this conversation.
He says, well, his training camp is from Michigan.
They train in Michigan, right?
And then such and such training camp is here.
This person's training camp is here.
Does comedy also have a crew that goes together and you kind of like one guy's at the front lifting the other three, four or five up?
Is that kind of how it works?
Totally.
I mean, if it's working perfectly, then it's that on many levels.
You know what I mean?
Like the guy that you met that weekend, Hans Kim, that was his first ever arena that he's ever done.
And he's a regular on my podcast as of only a few months ago, like six months ago.
He writes and performs a brand new minute every single week, but he kept doing so good and stood out to Joe.
And then so Joe let him open a couple shows and he, you know, completely destroyed.
So Joe had him open more shows.
And now all of a sudden, he goes from sleeping in his car just a few months ago, even though he's been doing it eight years.
He was that committed that he just bought a van and put a mattress inside and like organized his entire life into this van.
And now, I mean, he's, you know, right there.
He's at the big dance doing it.
And I mean, he killed at that show, which means he's going to be on the next one.
And sure enough, he was.
Just on Wednesday, we did a show and we did a show on Tuesday in Austin to prepare for it.
And Hans opened that show, but he wasn't even scheduled for Wednesday.
And he did so good on Tuesday that it's like, why don't you come join us tomorrow night?
And Joe put him on the manifest, made sure his manager got him a hotel.
You know what I mean?
And so instead of literally the next morning, he's on a jet to do another arena because of how good he does.
And that's really, that's like the Rogan way.
You know what I mean?
It's just trying to, he keeps people around him that are, that are, that are doing good.
You get rewarded for that, not for kissing ass or schmoozing.
Because as you probably saw, Hans misses his face when he's eating and there's like potatoes everywhere.
He's a disaster offstage, but he gets on and that's what he does.
Now, Pat, are you asking these questions?
Because I don't know if you guys know this.
Pat ready?
Pat's thinking about, there's a reason he's kind of bringing more comedians back on.
He's got some level of interest in this.
Pat, do you have a type of comedy that you identify with the most?
I don't know.
I'm an amateur.
I have no idea.
But my whole style, the whole value attainment is teaching through entertaining.
That's been the style of, I've noticed that teaching through entertaining works.
So meaning you have to count me to entertain, make them laugh, to retain, to get people to pay attention to you, to sell.
And then sales, you know, you can just go out there and sell based on a, hey, here's what I have, here's a structure, or you can sell through winning them over and build them rapport that building rapport and building relationship has an element of comic to it, you know, humor too.
That's why a lot of comedians are either, but you know, they do either, you know, storytelling or a lot of comedians have also done sales.
You know, they've been in sales, and it's natural.
You get me to like you.
I'm like, dude, I like this guy.
You know what?
I'll buy from this guy.
So there is an element of selling in comedy.
Yeah, you're pitching all the time.
You're like pitching your jokes.
It's like, I'm selling my life, my jokes to you.
Laugh.
You know what I mean?
That's the payment is you laughing.
So let me see this.
Guys, can you tell me if it's working or not?
We just had a glitch with.
I'm trying to see if you can comment if you can see us and it's going good now.
Message me because we got Comcast folks here and I'm getting text messages.
That's why I'm looking on my phone.
If you can tell me you can steadily hear us now and it's fine, we'll get right into it.
Is it much better now with the service?
John Mario, can you guys shoot me a text?
People are saying it's better.
People are saying it's better.
Yeah, they're saying it's better.
Okay, fantastic.
So let's get right into it.
By the way, someone's asking me a question.
What is the shirt I'm wearing?
The shirt says free will.
We have to talk about it because this whole thing got started.
We'll get into it maybe later on.
We got to talk about Disney.
We got stuff to talk about with Netflix.
We got to talk about Twitter.
We got stuff that's going on in Florida right now with taxes.
And Obama, Spotify, Spotify dropped them.
Bloomberg says Obama's left.
Did Spotify drop Obama's?
Did Obama drop Spotify?
Nobody knows.
And then there's CNN Plus, which crushed it.
They did so well.
Their launch is one of the greatest launches of all time.
Really?
They made so much money that after two weeks, they said, this is too much money.
Shut it down.
Shut it down.
I mean, we're going to have a million back in two weeks.
Seriously.
I just subscribed today.
Things are tough.
We also got to talk about what's going on.
I mean, people are getting beat up.
Tyson on airplanes.
Johnny Depp by Amber Hurt.
I mean, for Tyson.
I'm assuming everybody here saw Tyson with the video.
Did you see the video of the guy recording the guy?
And he's like bothering him.
And the other guy's laughing.
And it's like, bro, there's only so many times you could poke a bear to the bears.
He'd be like, all right.
But what do you think?
I'm going to be just, here's when you, what was your first reaction when you watched it?
When he started hitting him, I was just like, I don't know how we got because you know, Mike has those little angles.
He was rocking that dude's face, bro.
Oh, my God.
What did you think about?
Like, what did you think about the guy?
Not Tyson.
What did you think about the guy trolling him?
Like, how did you process him?
I didn't get to hear what he was saying.
Like, that's everything, right?
Do we know what he was saying?
I said, talking what he did, I think.
Can you pull up the video?
Because I think we can see the video.
It's not like you say, yeah, Antonio, he was saying something about, because the guy recording was like, he's bothering Mike on the show.
There's a better video.
There's a video that shows about shrooms, you said?
Because the guy's like laughing.
He's like, hey, he's bothering Mike Tyson about shrooms, and it's funny.
And it's laughing.
And then, dude, it took Mike a while, bro.
The guy was talking for a minute.
Did you hear what he said, Pat?
Yeah, the guy's like, he's in Mike.
Look, this is not fair to show that video.
They're not showing this clown trying to clown Tyson.
That's what they're not showing.
All they're showing is Tyson beating up the guy.
Tyson's in his seat.
He's not doing anything.
This guy's over him.
Is this the one?
Look, make this one bigger.
Oh, yeah.
You're like, how much of that shit are you going to take?
Oh, yeah.
Go back.
Go back a little bit.
I watched this.
Oh, this is great.
Talk to your boss.
Talk to my boss.
That's exactly as long as you're allowed to do that, though.
What are you thinking?
Dude, look, man.
He over here rapping with Tyson.
How many seconds can you do that to Mike?
Mike Tyson trying to give us some shrooms.
Trying to give us some shrooms.
And then?
Well, look, he's trying to have his wallet out.
He got his money out.
He should have never gave you his money.
Peasants.
And then all of a sudden.
And then guess what?
Show the next clip.
How much money is he going to make, though?
How much money is he going to make?
Turn around.
Look at that.
Dude, how much money is he going to make, Pat?
Think about that.
Think about how much money this.
I mean, dude, I mean, I don't know.
That guy provoked him.
The thing that stands out to me is him leaning over his Tyson's seat, you know, physically.
So he got rocked.
He got rocked.
Yeah.
I mean, he got, I think he got what he deserved because of the infiltration of his physical space.
I think people punching each other for saying something is bad, but that guy was physically annoying.
Oh, that made me happy.
It makes me happy, though.
Finally, like people are just.
But listen, there's a famous quote on internet.
The quote is, everybody acts tough until somebody punches you in the face.
Exactly.
That's Mike's quote.
So, you know what?
I like what Dana White posted.
Did you see?
That's what Dana White posted about it, which is sick.
Dana White says this.
Hey, idiots.
Look at this.
He says, hey, dummies, for your future, for future reference.
Just move, see.
Just move.
That's so badass.
Let me tell you something.
I love this.
I'll tell you why.
Number one, you know who feels bad for this guy?
They got beat up?
Absolutely.
Fucking nobody.
Nobody.
Okay.
We met Mike Tyson.
You did an hour-long interview with Mike Tyson in a freaking boxing ring in where were we in?
Vegas?
MGM.
We're in Vegas.
Freaking MGM.
Okay.
You couldn't have asked for a more chilled out, nicer guy.
Number one, he reeked of weed.
Of course.
He was smoking weed before, after, during, whatever.
We went, I said, hey, Mike, let's take a picture.
Let's put your hands up.
You know, he goes, he goes, man, I'm trying to fight you, man.
Put your hands down.
Let's shake.
As sweet as they come.
Yeah.
Do you know what you and I'm not going to be able to do that?
I'm not telling the whole story, though.
You're not telling the whole story.
What's the whole story?
He was so high.
I just said that.
Within five.
No, no.
It was so bad that within five minutes, I was asking for Cheeto.
I wanted to eat.
I'm like, I can't do this anymore.
But the interview was fantastic.
He was great.
And if you didn't know who Mike Tyson was, you said this guy is a freaking pacifist.
Other than the Roy Jones thing, remember the one line when he fought Roy Jones?
He says, like, everyone feels bad about Roy Jones.
He's like, I haven't fought in like 10 years.
Roy Jones just retired two years ago.
And the guy, what's the one Jim Gray?
And he's like, you're freaking Mike Tyson.
Everyone expects you to dominate all the goals.
And look, this guy got what he paid for, bro.
100% talking shit to Mike Tyson in an enclosed capsule in the sky.
Enjoy your ass, whatever.
But I guarantee you, he's going to make a lot of money, that guy.
There's no matter.
Why though?
Because, waiting for this.
Yeah, I feel you about the space.
Just like any man.
I would have punched him 100%.
I don't give a shit who the person is.
But Mike is sitting down.
The guy, yeah, is talking behind him.
But Mike got up, turned around, and physically assaulted a guy in the airplane.
And I'm with you guys.
He's going to sue and he's going to make money.
I guarantee you.
Oh, you mean that way?
You mean through a lawsuit?
100% laws.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe the airline.
I don't know.
I mean, he probably can't sue the airline.
But you could talk all this shit that you want.
Mike Tyson, who has money, beat the shit out of the guy.
Trust me, he's going to get a lawsuit.
He's going to use the Billy Madison defense.
100%.
That's assault, bro.
That's assault.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And don't be wrong.
I've had many experiences.
I just did the Laugh Actor Tone about two, three weeks ago.
And I adore Mike Tyson.
Bro, I look in his Chocolate Sundays and he's sitting right there.
And I was just like, oh, shit, I was just about to do that joke.
Not even really a joke, but I was like, in LA, like a week before, Mike Tyson was at a comedy show and some guy pulled out a gun on the host and the guy's like, hey, like in front of Mike and Mike just went, come here.
And the guy was like, I love you, Mike, and hugged Mike with a gun.
Wow.
I don't know if you guys, you guys saw that?
No.
It was a show.
Mike Tyson is so amazing and so Mike.
The guy was like, I just love you.
And hugged him.
He hugged Mike and then he left with a gun.
The thing with Mike Tyson is most, many athletes, many fighters, especially, don't have a second act.
No.
Right?
Like, you guys can do comedy until like till you're freaking Don Rickles until you're 90 freaking years old.
You can do comedy.
Fighters don't really have a second act.
Mike Tyson has reinvented himself as this like lovable, huggable character.
Actor, everything.
Yeah, everything.
I mean, the hangovers, a lot of it.
Yeah, big time.
Speaking, doing interviews, everything, doing the hot boxing.
What was the thing that you said that he did recently, the hot boxing with Francis Nagano?
Yeah, we talked about it.
He's turned into, like, he went from the baddest motherfucker on the planet to like the most lovable nicest guy.
Because he's always high.
Exactly.
And we just got to remember.
Yeah.
You know, he's a fucking beast.
Oh, this is it.
This is, you guys saw this?
Yeah.
And then he literally hugged.
Look at Mike.
Mike's like, come here.
Dude, a gun was drawn and Mike Tyson didn't even stand up.
Look, he's like, come here, man.
Give me a hug.
You armed son of a bitch.
What's crazy?
This is the same room that I saw another video of the fight.
Yeah, yeah.
Getting attacked.
This is in Hollywood, bro, next to a Roscoe's and Chicken and Waffles.
You know what I'm talking about?
They need to stop this show immediately.
This is the second clip out of that venue that I've seen in three days.
Yeah, 100%.
I know what you're talking about.
Can I ask you guys as comedians?
I mean, I don't know which direction we're going here.
Is that, you know, with Chris Rock getting assaulted on stage by Will Smith, you brought up Will Smith for Will.
Yeah.
You know, as a comedian, is this a concern of yours that someone coming up, and you're an insult comic fan?
I mean, if you book at your Wikipedia, I'm not sure if you've seen it recently, bro.
You're known as an insult comic.
No doubt.
Is this something that you are even more concerned about these days?
Is what schmucks in the audience just walking up?
Non-Will Smith?
You know what I'm concerned with is not anything physical.
It's the recording of sets, putting things out out of context.
100%.
You know, that's the new scum of the earth to me.
People, it's that guy that got punched by Tyson is obviously now that I didn't even know there was that second angle of him playing to his buddy that's across.
He's saying, film me.
And this is the weird world that we live in.
What Will Smith did was Will Smith being mentally unhealthy, blatantly a victim of whatever Jada's putting.
Well, I mean, you're talking about...
But I'm not afraid of physical things.
What bothers me is people recording sets and the potential of putting those out without context, the potential of sending it through an editing bay and turning down the volume of laughter in a situation of a live show.
Tony, I mean, people do that.
Messing with clips.
Oh, hell yeah.
What happened to me?
The guy that wanted to get famous from it in an interview because he did so many interviews admitted.
He ended up admitting publicly that he edited the video and he decided when he was going to release it, which isn't even completely true because the Chinese government accidentally released it before he woke up the day that he was supposed to.
Something so.
You talk about that.
What happened with that?
Well, I woke up that morning and it was, what's weird is I had a crazy, like crazy like nightmare that woke me up at like 5 a.m., which is a rare thing in itself.
And it was weird.
Had my childhood home in it.
It was just a weird morning.
And I roll over.
You know how sometimes you don't really want to look at your phone.
You're just making sure nothing crazy is happening.
And sure enough, I was just awake enough to make it from my text messages from my email to Twitter.
I'm like, I'll check Twitter real quick.
And that like minute, like a few minutes before, someone's like, you all of these like out of like not making sense tweets, racist, you, you racist up fucked.
And I'm like, wait, what?
And it's like, what?
Career done dork loser.
And I'm like, what does what is this all happening?
And I'm, so I end up clicking on one of the tweets and clicking on the person's profile, right, to see what maybe there's a tweet that they had from minutes before.
And it was the video that was that ended up being released by him, the one that supposedly went viral hours later with English subtitles.
But this was the same exact video with Chinese subtitles, colored the exact same as the video that he edited and put out.
So he made a version with English subtitles and Chinese subtitles, sent the Chinese subtitles to the Chinese whoever, news government.
There's no difference between the two as we know.
And they released it first.
He must have slept in, maybe drank too much the night before, had a night because he ended up not posting his thing until 11 a.m.
Meanwhile, it was coming out of China at 5 a.m.
And I have screenshots to prove all of that.
You know what I mean?
Because I'm literally like, what is this crazy Chinese video of my set?
It's a workout set from last Thursday.
I did an entire weekend of shows, hour-long sets in other cities that weekend, somewhere else.
Like, I'm like, why is my workout set, my riffing, where I try new things and take major chances at a comfortable home club in my home city?
Like, why is this even out there?
And then I realized at 11 a.m. when he posts, this is what happened to me.
Happy Asian Heritage Month.
Tony Hinchcliffe did this to me.
And he hashtagged all of these Asian awareness, Asian hate things.
What happened to you the next day?
Like, what happened career-wise?
Did that help you?
Did that hurt you?
At the time, at the very, very time, it hurt me like immediately because, I mean, at the time, every news source is basically telling the wrong side of the story.
And immediately you're like, how do I handle this?
And there's ways, right?
So half of your friends are saying, whatever you do, don't apologize.
The other half are like, you have to apologize.
One half is like, you need to just give an explanation of what happened.
I can't believe this guy did this to you.
You're a publicist.
I'm curious.
What is the publicist?
I had a manager, a lawyer.
I don't exactly have a publicist, but my lawyer called me immediately and he's like, you need to talk to, I have on the other line, I'm patching you in with the biggest crisis management lawyer professional right now.
I'm patching him in.
I'm like, okay, I'm going to hear what this guy has to say.
And this fucking guy, let me tell you what being canceled is like.
This fucking guy knows what he's doing and probably does this all the time, right?
He's like, I know what you're going through, Tony, and I'm going to save you.
You have to give me 15,000 now, and then you'll give me 15,000 tomorrow when you see results.
And then if things are still bad, you'll give me another 15 on the third day.
I'm like, this guy, this guy just, this guy's already at 50,000.
This is already the biggest bill for any employee that I've been doing.
Has he given you any advice thus far?
Like, what is he saying?
Well, that's what's funny is he's got no, no, he's literally, I'm literally like, what, what can you do?
He's like, well, I can get out ahead of this.
I can call the news sources and make sure that they don't post.
I go, what if the news sources don't even know about this yet?
Are you going to inform them that this is a breaking story?
He had no answer to that.
I go, what if, I go, if I ignore this completely, isn't that the way to do it?
And he goes, well, that's a major, major risk.
Could be the end.
But these guys, they're used to politicians.
They're used to actors and actual crimes, mind you.
Not a comedian making fun of another comedian at a comedy show where they're warned beforehand, you're going to hear things that are out of order.
Recording is not allowed.
All of these aspects are in play.
So these crisis lawyer crazy people are used to dealing with politicians that actually fucked up or people that aren't comedians messing up.
I mean, the craziest part to me, proof that news is at its lowest point ever, is that if you Googled me that day as a journalist reporting on what you're seeing, exactly what you just said a few minutes ago is true, which is my Wikipedia, and I think it's changed since then.
I think it now says an American comedian.
Yeah, but just beforehand.
That literally, when this happened, it said Tony Hinchcliffe, because I remember it goes, Tony Hinchcliffe is an American insult comedian that blah, Right.
Yeah, it's changed now.
No, you see, right there.
He is an insult comedian.
But, dude, but it was originally, here's how crazy this is because I remember it was originally the first line right after birthday.
Hinchcliffe is an American insult comedian because I always thought it was weird.
I'm like, American insult comedian.
What does this even mean?
And did you ever think of yourself as that or just I'm a comedian, bro?
I'm like a comedian.
Yeah.
I talk shit.
But the only people that bring up that I'm an insult comedian are the people that read my Wikipedia before I come in and do a podcast.
Well, look, let's address this head on.
Because, look, I used to do stand-up comedy many years ago.
Vinny's a stand-up comedian.
Pat is as great a storyteller as it comes.
He just hasn't been on stage yet.
I had heard of your name peripherally.
Like, I've followed Segura for years, and obviously Rogan, and I've heard of your name.
I've met obscure stuff, but I wasn't like, all right, what does Tony stand for?
What do you talk about?
And then, boom, this hit the atmosphere.
That's what I stand for.
Yeah, exactly.
Is that type of insanity to where either you're loving it or you're pissed off because you don't know that I'm doing what I strategically do?
Like that is my art form is crazy ass shit, like to the brim.
Like, not every comedian.
What's crazy is that if it had been a clean to an extreme, we could say Brian Regan or Jim Gaffigan.
If he did that, that's crazy.
Let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
So what is today in comedy?
What can't you touch?
Because like when I was watching Hans do what he was doing, all he did is make fun of Asians, but he can get away with it.
Because obviously, he's and the jokes he'd said, by the way, how many of them were like crossing the line to the average person?
Every one of them, right?
But he can do it.
Because he's Asian?
Yeah.
No, because here's why.
Let me ask the question and then you run it.
I want to hear it from me because you're so what can't I touch?
What can you touch?
What's gray area?
What's super risky?
And who today can touch anything and no one can say shit about it?
Right.
So the interesting thing, and I'll go immediately going back because this is the answer.
The reason why Hans can do that isn't because he's Asian.
What's interesting about what he's doing is it's the fact that he's smiling big the entire time.
He's likable.
He's putting the jokes on himself oftentimes in a sneaky way.
He makes it about himself.
Even though maybe he's not a liberal, you know, I'm not speaking for him, but he'll say, I'm a liberal.
So I, whatever, I'm not going to do his jokes, but he puts it on him.
Instead of making fun of women, he'll go, I'm like a woman.
I'm as insecure.
You know what I mean?
Whatever.
He's making fun of everything at once with a smile.
The art form, the art form is getting it across and making it work.
That's why.
Another interesting thing that happened, you know, with my He is Asian.
Almost every picture, though, look at him.
What do you notice?
Look at him.
He's smiling.
And that second one, of course, people are idiots.
How they found that one of him not smiling is like, bro, he is Asian.
What do you mean?
Yeah.
Okay, so yeah.
Well, I mean, that's what I'm saying, is that that's what I do too.
It's about getting the things across.
It's about making it work.
If you're up there and you're literally, you know, and that is to my own judgment here, like I'm sort of burying myself because one thing that I didn't do in the video that got me in trouble was smile a lot, but it's because the reason why I did what happened there was because his whole thing before the five minutes of his set before I went up was white people are so mean.
And he was doing things to try to get like not a sympathy applause break, but not funny, deep stuff.
Like all that we would, this, this, this, and you're expecting a joke.
And he basically goes, like, all we want, white people, is for you to be nice to us.
Yeah.
And it's like, I'm standing in the back getting ready to go on.
And I think to myself, the funniest thing I could do right now on a Thursday night where phones are supposed to be locked up, it's my show.
I'm the surprise on this show.
Like, it's not my show, my show.
I wasn't headlining that show.
That was a workout set on a show called A Secret Show.
It's the secret show every Thursday because you don't know who's going to drop in.
Right.
I'm a drop in.
It's where I work out stuff that I thought about driving there or yesterday in the shower or whatever.
It's a place to be.
It's not your tight set.
It's not your tight 20.
You're just testing shit out.
Exactly.
And because he was going, white people are so mean, white people are so mean.
And then it's five minutes of white people are so mean.
And at that point, I'm like, I'm going to go 100 miles an hour here.
The funniest thing I can do after his set.
And sure enough, again, you know, when the whole thing was breaking, what's his name from TMZ, Harvey, whoever, of course, he took the interview, this moron comedian that tried to do this to me.
And he took the interview with Harvey.
And even he goes, all I heard in that video was some laughter.
And he goes, well, yeah, but you should have seen the looks on the people's faces.
I'm like, what are we talking about here?
So back to Pat's original question.
What's off limits?
Nothing is off limits if you can sell it.
If you can do it with a smile and get a big laugh, then nothing's off limits.
It's about that getting laughter, period.
I definitely think.
Yeah, he's right.
Some people are going to be offended, but if you have half the crowd dying of laughter and the other half, that's amazing.
That's the love.
I forgot which special it was with Louis C.K. Anybody could talk the hell with your race.
You could talk about anything if it's funny.
Louis C.K. special tone, I don't know what was the name of it, but it was his N-word joke where he's like, he actually says the full N-word live.
And it was one of the most brilliant jokes where he's like, white people got away with saying the N-word because when you say the N-word, you're making me say it in my head.
He's like, why don't you take responsibility?
And you say it.
Anything, bro.
And nothing is off limits.
But like you said, you got to be, it has to be funny, bro.
It has to be something where people go, oh, shit.
Like, that's a great written joke.
So any race, dude, I'm Middle Eastern.
I can talk about anybody.
You know what I mean?
Anything, anybody, any race, any situation, as long as it's personal to me, because it's funny, bro.
People are going to laugh.
A lot of the rooms I do are predominantly, you know, African-American.
I talk about everything, bro.
There's nothing that I don't talk about.
Pat, do you ask that because you think that there's certain things that should be off limits?
There's certain things, you know, that are universally funny.
Like, do you have any strong opinions on like, all right, this, there's certain things that are completely off limits.
Like, talking, like, for instance, in UFC, what's the kid?
The guy's name would just be Mosfidel, Kobe Covington, talk shit about Dustin Poirier's wife and kids.
Like to me, that is, I guess that's not off limits, but that is fucking disgusting.
But, you know, free speech, do what you want.
Yeah, but that's different.
What that does is there's, if anybody laughs at that, you're like that.
I don't know if that makes sense or not.
Like, if you think that's funny when Kobe says what he says about Dustin or he says that about Jorge and he says that about all this stuff, it's just a matter of time until somebody – look, Masvidal found him in a restaurant and he comes out and he gets into a fight.
You can't say stuff.
You know, I'm telling you, if he says that to the wrong UFC Armenian fighter, I'm telling you, it's over for that guy.
You can't talk like that to people.
You just cannot.
Set that aside That to me Is in a different Category of Disrespect Disrespect Yeah, I don't know where you want to put that.
And it's the person that's doing it, right?
A fighter is one thing.
A politician saying something is another thing.
But a comedian, we're supposed to be the ones that are sort of a little bit responsible for pushing the limit strategically.
There is an argument.
Yeah, but I think you need to be free, though.
That's my concern.
I think you need to be free.
I think I'm concerned if you're not free.
Look, I run an insurance company.
Okay, so we just had a convention.
We had a few thousand people.
I've been in Orlando the last few days, and we had a great time.
We made the announcement on speakers, by the way.
So we have Penn and Teller's performance.
We're shutting down MGM Grant for a week.
In August, 15,000 people will have at this event.
I'll have Penn and Teller open up.
Then I have Nelly is going to be performing, putting on a concert.
We have Kurt Warner will be speaking.
Then we have Layla Ali will be there as well.
And last but not least, you ready for this one?
I'm ready for it.
Shaq.
Shaq.
The diesel.
After the Kobe interview, he blocked me and messaged me pissed off because that whole interview got 300 million views and it was all over the place.
Are you going to do the same thing you did with Tyson?
Or what do you like the same kind of vibe?
We're going to have a conversation.
It should be a good conversation.
That's the stupidest question you ever asked.
But here's what I did.
Let me tell you what happened with me.
So I'm coming up in business and I'm learning from these advisors and mentors.
And the rule of thumb in business is what?
Never talk religion, never talk sex, and never talk politics, right?
These are like the three things, whatever other things that people want to add to it.
I'm like, you know what?
I don't know.
I like talking religion.
I like talking politics.
And I don't mind talking about sex because at that time I'm single.
So I'm like, I'm dealing with a bunch of young guys.
Hey, they want to talk about it?
Talk about it, right?
And then you are smaller.
So when you're smaller and you're doing it, the risk is higher.
As you're getting bigger and you're doing it, you have a little bit more credibility.
But it comes to a point where you are managing expectation with the audience.
And let me explain to you what I mean by this.
First time I did an interview with Michael Francis and I did a mob interview.
And then after that, I interviewed 20 other mobsters and we did a bunch of different things.
But the first time I did it, I can't believe Pat did this.
You should have never done this.
You're an idiot.
You're this.
Why would you associate yourself on Papa?
I'm like, it's my show.
It's what I'm interested in.
If you're not, don't worry about it.
Yeah, exactly.
There's 50 million other channels that I started interviewing bodybuilders.
Why would a business channel interview bodybuilders?
Why would you have on Dorian Yates?
Why would you have on this person?
Listen, I like bodybuilding.
You don't like it.
Go elsewhere.
Then I was interviewed.
So then why is Pat talking so much politics?
Why is Pat talking to CIA people?
Why is Pat talking to communists?
This is a business channel.
You shouldn't interview 10 communist professors and all these other guys.
They hate America.
Listen, it's my channel.
So what I'm doing in that moment with my fans, my audience, I'm managing expectations.
This is what I like.
You like it?
Great.
You don't.
You don't like it.
I think in business, like yesterday, I'm giving a message.
The whole message I gave yesterday at the closing session was about politics.
And then the story I told, I told the following story.
I said, when 9-11 happened and everybody is looking around saying, wait a minute, two planes, that's the enemy.
Are you kidding me?
No problem.
What are you black?
You're white.
I don't care.
Where's your kid?
I'm going to go help you.
You're Republican.
You're a Democrat.
I don't give a shit if you're Republican or Democrat.
Today we're all Americans, right?
What happened the last two years with COVID is we said COVID came and say China's the one that caused a lot of this.
Rather than saying that's the enemy, we said, you're a Republican before I'm an American.
I'm a Democrat.
Before I'm an American, we forgot the fact that we're Americans first before we're political issues.
Now, 10 years ago, 12 years ago, I had dinner with George William and I first talked politics.
People said, you shouldn't talk about that.
And I'm like, so I was a little bit on edge myself.
I was like, man, maybe I shouldn't talk about this in business because I'm losing people, right?
And then eventually I said, five years, I'm asking myself, I can't stop talking about this stuff.
This is all I think about.
So my managing of expectation with the audience was, this is what I talk about.
If you're uncomfortable, you can go to another company.
Of course.
But this is my comfort zone.
So I think as a comedian, you are essentially, you know, because you can get lost in seeing one guy goes vital as a comedian.
I'm like, maybe I should try that guy selling one guy's own.
Maybe I should.
And then you're like, dude, that's just not my style.
This is my style.
What do you want me to do?
And then you stick to it and you manage that expectation with your audience.
100%.
And that's why none, I didn't lose a single fan during that entire thing.
Without a doubt, everyone knows that that's my thing.
So when people come and see me live, if I don't have something that's, you know, really, really pushing the limit, then they're not getting.
They feel like you cheated them.
They're like, what are you doing, bro?
You pushed the limit.
All we did was laugh the whole time.
Meanwhile, I need to get them to literally go, oh, God.
Ooh, or no.
That's all I did when I was listening to you.
Yeah.
I'm telling you, I was listening.
I'm like, fricking, hey, this guy's unbelievable.
If you haven't been, have you seen us?
Not live.
I've seen his obviously.
I thought Tony's message was unreal.
Hans was third.
You came right before Joe.
And then Joe came up and Joe did what Joe did.
But, dude, you were just going like this.
You were going like this.
And it's funny watching you how you handle it.
At first, one of the mics wasn't working.
They brought the new mic and you just didn't control your dress and your thing that you have and you did what you did.
But again, I want you to be free.
I want comedians to be free.
I want a comedian to offend me.
Go ahead, say something.
I'm Middle Eastern, Armenian, Assyrian.
Say something.
It's okay.
I want to hear it.
But it better be funny.
You know what I mean?
Make me laugh.
Bust my balls.
But I think that's what you guys are saying that in your world, if you can make it funny.
100%.
Well, let me ask you guys, Tony.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Well, I mean, look, I think comedians have a very necessary role in society, especially right now in America today.
I think as far as we talked about this whole conversation basically started on, I remember when I almost got canceled, right?
So we're talking about cancel culture right now.
Comedians have a longer leash than any other person in America, whether you're a business person, CEO, whether you're a politician, whether you're just average Joe Show on the street, comedians have that ability to say, I could push the envelope.
I could push a limit here.
Look at from, you know, Lenny Bruce, who got canceled, get thrown in jail, to Carlin, you know, who turned from basically from a comedian to philosopher.
God had to a modern day philosopher.
And then you have Richard Pryor and everything that he was doing.
Eddie Murphy.
But like these days right now, Louis C.K. got fucking canceled for doing something, not even a joke, some other stuff.
Some other stuff, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
He got swept up in the Me Too movement.
He got canceled by Hollywood, though.
Correct.
Totally different.
But then he's selling his own specials and selling out.
But he got canceled.
One of the best things in the world.
There's a reason he's not headlining like he was before.
But here's my point.
But he is.
Here's my point.
Dave Chappelle, they tried to cancel Dave Chappelle.
Right.
Whether you believe that or not.
They tried to cancel fucking Rogan.
Right.
Of course.
Like everything is like the end hole, the end thing, the da-da-da-da-da-da.
But if there's anybody that's not cancelable, it's the biggest people with the biggest microphones and the biggest leash are comedians.
As a comedian, do you feel a sense of responsibility to say, all right, things are kind of crazy here in America right now.
Let me, I got to add my, like, Tim Dylan is great at this kind of stuff like that.
Right.
Do you feel a sense of like, you can't cancel me?
I'm a freaking comedian.
Like, this is kind of my job here.
What are your thoughts on just the overall component of what it's like to be a comedian and your role in society?
See what I'm saying here?
Yeah, I mean, totally.
Yeah.
We are, it's already proven.
I mean, what you just said about Louis being canceled or Dave Chappelle being canceled or them trying to cancel Joe Rogan, like none of that is a thing.
We did 15,000 people on Wednesday.
Dave Chappelle will always sell out whatever he wants to do.
Anybody that's ever seen Louie, unless you've literally had somebody in a hotel room jerk off in front of you, he didn't lose a fan.
I mean, these, you know, you can't cancel that which works.
If it's not funny, that's different.
But you can't cancel comedians.
It's just impossible.
What you can do, what the one option is, is you have to hope that they get arrested.
Like Bill Cosby is canceled.
But he's out in all the ways.
No, he's free.
And if he's a stand-up, he'd sell out in a heartbeat.
He would sell out with his crowd.
In a heartbeat.
Bill Cosby would 100% sell out in hours.
Arena, whatever.
Trust me.
Tony just said something very important, though.
Tony, if you don't mind unpacking that, you said, but Louis C.K. got canceled with Hollywood, not canceled.
So unpack what that means to you.
So he was writing and directing and producing and acting and those things.
You're leaving it into these corporations' hands all of a sudden.
And the second that that happens, you've given it to them.
You know what I mean?
Luckily, you know, even Netflix was put on the pressure cooker with the Chappelle stuff.
It wasn't Chappelle who was getting hurt by it.
It was them, right?
Because they're going, Netflix, take this down or else you're against transgender, whatever, which if you listen to the joke, there's nothing to even be mad at at all.
It's just him covering a subject, getting laughs, being actually a supporter of transgender rights, but nobody listens to anything.
It doesn't matter.
And what they're saying doesn't matter.
Those people that the Twitter mobs and everything, they don't care at all.
They're bored.
They're always looking for their next thing.
And, you know, they're always moving on.
But getting canceled by Hollywood, I mean, he wanted to do that stuff.
And now, and I know what's going to happen.
He's going to make things with his own money.
And he's going to make more money because the next thing that's going to be the next thing, or perhaps the tide is turning as we're seeing with Netflix and Disney and HBO winning this race because why?
Because they tend to stick with absolutely good content.
It's not about this or pandering towards this.
I mean, the most watched, most awarded show right now is succession.
It's the only thing that I'm really that and Ozark, right?
It's like two of the most lauded things.
And it's about what?
Rich white people making vast sums of money.
So like, meanwhile, other shows are like, hey, come over here for Black History Month or it's Asian Heritage Month.
We have these special Asian shows and people are starting to catch on.
Like, why are you pandering to me?
Because that's what they think that people want because everybody's so woke right now.
And pandering is the way in our world in being a comedian, that's the lowest form.
It's not who's pandering is trying to, oh, this is a black audience, so I'm going to sound a little bit black.
I'm going to do these jokes because this, this, this, right?
So that leads me to what just happened with Netflix.
One day, okay, their stock drops 39%.
They lose over $50 billion in a day, folks.
We're not talking like, you know, 50 billion in a year, and that's a lot of money.
In a day, they lose $50 billion, $52 billion.
But let me read this to you, this article.
Okay, so no chill.
Netflix shares drops 39% after massive subscriber loss.
Netflix tumbled 39% on Wednesday, extending a sell-off that has set it on a course for a 60, forgive me, $60 billion wipeout on a market value after the reported sharp decline in subscriber base.
Netflix stock dropped, has plunged this year.
You ready?
This year in 2022.
64%.
Jesus Christ.
Shocked Wall Street by losing 200,000 customers in the first quarter.
The first time it has shed subscribers since 2011.
It also projected it will shrink by another 2 million customers in the second quarter.
So let me get this straight.
So they lost 200,000, and they're saying they're going to lose 2 million more thou in the second quarter.
The drop in customers has led Netflix to break some of its long-standing rules.
It will introduce a cheaper advertising supported options for subscribers in the next couple of years and will start cracking down on people sharing passwords even before.
By the way, can you go to Twitter and show what I just tweeted about Netflix a couple of days ago?
Go to my Twitter account if you can and go lower, go lower, go lower.
Check this out.
You're about to be shell-shot.
Keep going lower.
Keep going lower.
I love the short.
Right there.
Right there.
Make that bigger.
Check this out.
This is Twitter.
This is Netflix tweeting this out.
Wow.
March 10, 2017.
Love is sharing your password.
Wow.
And now you're saying they're going to crack it down.
I think these guys completely forgot what the hell happened with Blockbuster.
How the hell did you make your money?
How did you make your money?
Blockbuster had these late fees.
I'd go return a movie, and I love Blockbuster.
I was every Friday, Saturday, Blockbuster.
I love it.
And you'd go there, and next thing you know, boom, you got seven late fees, $29, all this other stuff.
And the next thing you know, you know, hey, guys, we're going to have some more late fees, some more late fees.
Then they're wondering why they're losing $60 billion.
And on top of that, the shows they're coming up with lately, right?
You got one show here which shows what?
Is this the show of it?
It came out today, I mean, right?
Today or yesterday.
This is really came out today.
Because you're fucking sharing passwords, not because you're sharing it.
Exactly.
I'm curious.
It came out today?
Yeah, today or yesterday.
You know what this means?
If this came out today or yesterday, millions of people just said, we don't want to watch this.
100%.
100%.
So then the question becomes the following.
The question becomes the following.
I'm going to use the example of a comedian.
You go up on stage, you tell a joke.
Okay.
This is how honest capitalism is and how honest comedy is.
You go up on stage and you tell a joke.
All right.
And how quickly, if you're testing a new joke, how quickly are you going to know in an audience of 100 people, your joke sucks?
How quickly?
10 seconds.
Yeah, you'll know.
Immediately.
Okay.
How quickly will you know that new joke is freaking awesome?
Immediately.
Okay, so now let me ask you this.
What if there's 100 people in there and you tell a joke and one person laughs?
Are you going to tell that joke?
Depends on how that laughs.
They're laughing hard.
But here's the point.
The point is Netflix is telling the joke just to entertain that one person.
What the hell is the matter with you?
Years ago, I was giving a sales presentation and I was 26 years old, 25 years old.
And it was one of the most awkward moments of me giving a sales presentation.
So I come in because I watched the guy do it at Morgan.
I said, I'm going to speak like this guy.
So I go in.
I said, listen, I want to say something to you guys.
You know, we're doing a meeting.
This is a very important meeting that we're having here.
People flew out to be here.
And we have to finish in an hour.
But I want everybody to stick around.
I don't want anybody to get up and distract anybody else.
You are pregnant and you need to do that.
No problem, totally understand, but nobody else.
So I go on my message 30 minutes into it.
One lady gets up and she's going to the restroom.
Yeah.
And I said, it's okay.
She can get up because she had a little, you know, little God.
I said, it's totally fine.
She's pregnant.
She's walking.
She says, I'm not pregnant.
Oh, my God.
Guys.
Let me tell you, it was the most uncomfortable.
I'm like, so now try to do this.
Here's the part.
How do you come back from the other 99 people in the room?
Right there, I'm saying, this has got to be the dumbest thing you've said on stage.
25-20%.
I wanted to finish that as quickly as possible.
Oh, God.
Netflix had a moment like that.
Yep.
And they didn't pay attention to the scrolls and they didn't make the adjustment.
I don't understand what the hell they're going through.
And Pat, is that, so it's not the, obviously it's not the password thing.
Do they realize that it is that?
What's happening?
Are they?
Because I mean, the goal woke and go broke.
I'm seeing it so much.
And it's like, you see the writing on the wall.
What is going on?
Like, what, what, you're not, you're not seeing the writing on the wall.
When you have a breakup with a girl, okay, or a guy, and everybody comes, like just a friend who comes to you and says, hey, I just went through a breakup.
What's the first thing your friend's going to tell you?
Don't worry about it.
There's more fish in the sea.
No, no, no.
Your friend's going to say.
She sucks anyway.
She's a whore.
Exactly.
You know what I found out about her?
Here's what I found out about her.
You know what?
We all hooked up with that.
We all banged her.
You're like, what?
And the fuck are you going to tell me?
And you're kind of like, and you're kind of like, yeah, no, you know, that's really why this relationship didn't work out, right?
Now flip it.
Flip it and say, how many times do your friends come up to you and say, so why do you think it didn't work out?
I screwed up.
Yeah.
It was me.
It was me.
It's not really.
You think Netflix is going to say it was me?
My bad.
Netflix is going to say it's the girlfriend's fault.
There's one person as a business owner you never blame, and it's who?
Yourself.
No, no, no, no.
There's one person you never blame.
The customer?
The customer.
Yeah, you're right.
What are you doing blaming the?
Oh, it's because they're sharing passwords.
You forgot five years ago you told them she was sharing passwords.
They're losing their identity.
So, full transparency, do you guys all have Netflix?
I actually canceled it.
Can I be afraid of it?
Are you being sarcastic or serious?
No, I canceled it a few years ago.
I'm sharing my sister Veronique's.
She gave me, because I was paying it for myself, and I was like, no, she's like, just get online.
There's four of us online.
So you guys are sharing passwords.
Sharing passwords.
Just so you know, there's going to be cops outside.
They already know, yeah.
The way their Netflix is coming after.
I see the cops.
Tyler, you got Netflix or no?
Yeah, it's a shared password.
Yeah, of course.
Are you being serious or are you being sarcastic?
I swear to God.
Okay, yeah.
Why pay for it?
Why would you pay for Netflix nowadays?
You know so many people.
Yeah, sharing passwords.
I pay for it, but I'm bad with money.
I don't pay attention to any of these things.
And I get them, and this is what obviously is really happening is their content sucks right now.
They have nothing new out.
Everything, there's nothing.
You're always one project away from having another so many subscribers.
I mean, House of Cards was unbelievable.
That's what started it, right?
People are like, you have to watch this show.
Kevin Spacey's killing it.
You can't blink.
It's unbelievable.
That's what happens.
HBO, same thing.
I mean, they are the standard.
Game of Thrones was the most watched thing on TV.
Sopranos was unbelievable.
They have all the awards to prove it.
But most importantly, they have the people's attention.
Aggression is unbelievable.
I'm a byproduct.
I subscribe to Netflix the moment a guy named Carl D. Moss, a friend who I've never met, and we met on Facebook and we would talk shit to each other, politics.
And my dad said, you have to watch House of Cards.
I love it.
So I come home after hearing it from these guys 50 times.
I said, okay, I'm going to Tuscany, Italy.
We're taking like 40 people to Italy.
And the night before, I got a flight the next day.
Jen's asleep with the baby.
I go in the room and I said, let me watch one episode.
It's probably bullshit anyway.
I said, babe, we got to get this app Netflix.
So we get Netflix, and then I watch one episode, and then I finish it at 7 a.m.
I'm like, the next day, I slept on the entire flight to watch House of Cars.
So you're right.
Meaning, you are one show away from fixing this, but they have to fix it.
You can't do this, boy.
You got a great platform, great technology.
You kicked everyone's ass, and you make this stupid of a mistake because 0.1% of the audience is complaining.
Are you out of your mind?
Yeah, Paramount Plus got me.
Five months ago, they put the new, they're so smart that they put the new the only comedy that I even watch is South Park.
Oh, I didn't know that.
And well, no, it's not, but they put one one-hour special.
They did one thing, but you couldn't get it on YouTube.
You couldn't get it on the Comedy Central.
You couldn't get it on the Hulu, all these different platforms that they're on.
They're so smart.
They made such a smart deal.
I can't imagine what they gave the South Park guys for this.
But they go, the only way you can see this episode is by subscribing now to Paramount Plus for whatever it is, $5.99 a month, however much it was.
And this is what they're banking on, is that people are going to forget that they're subscribed to the thing.
I mean, I've paid for five months for something that I watched for an hour.
I don't even, I mean, yeah, I'm sure it's a membership.
But it's going to ask you something, Pat?
By the way, let me just say this and then a question.
I think Netflix is worth $20 a month.
I think Netflix is worth $30 a month.
I know people are going to be like, Pat, you've lost your mind.
Netflix has so much content.
It's worth $20, $30, $40 a month.
I paid $125 a cable.
I pay $99 a month to Netflix.
So this thing, when people say, oh, they lost because they raised prices, bullshit.
They didn't lose because if they raised prices.
They started trying to win and bow down to a 0.1% of the audience thinking that's, and they screwed up.
People would be willing to pay 90.
I would pay 99 bucks premium to have certain benefits over anything else.
I would pay for it.
So it's not a dollar thing that people are bitching about.
Folks, forget, just 20 years ago, we were paying $100 cable.
Let me say this one more time.
20 years ago in the 90s, people were paying gladly $100 plus dollars a month for cable.
So don't tell me it's the $12 a month, Netflix, all this stuff.
Their leadership team royally screwed up.
I'm sorry, guys.
I'm not sure if you missed the show.
It disappeared.
Yeah, you never get to see it again.
This is the sickest technology.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Well, look, I want to get your perspective on something, not as a father, not as a consumer, not as a content creator, but as a CEO.
Because for as long as I've been doing stuff with Value Taint for the past few years, we've actually applauded Reed Hastings for being such a brilliant CEO, right?
He wrote a book called What?
No Rules Rules.
Yeah.
Right.
And we've actually been singing his credit for years.
Okay.
So I want you to put your CEO hat on right now for a second and ask yourself, okay, they clearly are having some sort of board meeting right now, being like, all right, guys, during COVID, 20, 20, 21, they were on top of the world.
The subscribership was up.
Bananas.
Everyone is on lockdown.
Up until, what, six months ago, Squid Game, which I never saw, was the biggest fucking show in the history of Netflix and everything.
Dude, you're the man.
You're the best.
You're the best CEO ever.
And now, boom, just like that, their stock has dropped, crumbled.
Netflix has basically been kind of canceled by the market.
So you as a CEO, what is Reed Hastings saying right now?
He's got to be having like a, you know, a war room conversation with his team saying, guys, huddle up.
You know, he probably has a picture of that pregnant Asian guy and he's like, I don't ever want to see this shit again.
So let me do what I just did.
Here's what I just did.
I just went on Crunchbase and I looked at who sits on their board.
It's the first thing I did.
You got Rich Barton, who sits on their board.
You got Timothy Haley, who sits on their board since 98.
You got Jay Hoke, who sits on their board since 99.
You got Ann, who's been sitting there since 2010.
You got Ann Sweeney, who's been there since 2015, Brad Smith, who's been there since 2015, and then you got Matthias Dupfner, who's been there since 2018, and then you got Reed, who's been there since 97.
Okay.
Do you remember when the whole thing happened with Twitter and everybody was bashing, you know, Jack Dorsey is this, Jack Dorsey is that, Jack Dorsey is there.
It's Jack, I can't believe Jack Dorsey, you know, kicked the suspended or silenced Trump and Jack was kind of like playing the neutral side.
And everyone's like, oh, it's all Jack Dorsey's fault.
And then Jack Dorsey resigns and boom, kind of works his way out.
I think May's going to be his last one to be the executive chairman.
And a new guy comes in and takes him.
I'm like, oh, shit, Jack was actually not as bad as the new guy is, right?
The new guy changed the email, all this other stuff.
And now, you know, Musk is talking about potentially buying Twitter.
And in doing so, he's thinking about doing something with Dorsey.
Why is Dorsey's name being mentioned?
Again, and something like that.
So anyways, so the point is, I don't know if it's Reid.
As a company gets bigger, you know, certain things you no longer are as involved in, especially their model.
If you've ever read their book, No Rules Rules, they'll give you a budget and they'll say, go do whatever you want to buy and you don't even need to get it approved by us.
That's their model.
Like you can go buy a $6.5 million project and you don't even need to buy the runner-by Reid and a lot of their C-suites.
I love that we're going to start implementing that at Value Tatement.
I really love it.
So the point is, the point is, I don't know how much of it is him right now, but I can tell you right now, you affected people's pockets.
There are people who had $5 million in Netflix stock, and you just cost that person that had $5 million in Netflix stock, you cost them $2 million in a day.
One day.
$2 million.
And that person, Tyler, mute yourself.
That person who just lost $2 million in a day, that person is not sitting on the sideline saying, oh, it's okay, Reid.
We trust you.
No, no, no.
They're getting emails.
They're losing their minds.
They're calling their broker.
Then Morgan's calling these guys.
And Goldman's probably already had a call with them.
Anybody that's given them money, they got loan.
There's a lot of difficult calls they're going through.
And typically in situations like this, you have to regroup.
You have to bring new leadership team in.
You got to fire some people.
You got to let some people go.
They've gone through this before.
You saying fire people from the board?
How does that work?
Not from the board.
You can't?
You need to bring some new people to the board.
They got eight.
They need to add three more because 11 is an odd number.
But there's some moves I'd be making if I was them.
But if they don't move too quickly, shit's going to get very ugly.
And by the way, Bank of America is not even saying to hold.
So the market's not even putting them in the hold category.
You know how there's a buy, hold, and sell category?
They're in the sell category.
They're not even in the hold category.
So people are not even saying it's over, meaning brace for impact.
It's going to go lower.
I didn't say that.
A lot of the analysts are saying that.
Let me go one step deeper with you.
You know how we play that game with a lot of the people?
Okay, who are the most important CEO, board member?
No, no, not so much that.
Like universities, social media, how do you describe that?
The most influential parts of society.
What are the reasons, the top five reasons that Netflix is, is it because they pandered to woke culture?
Is it because of content?
Is it because of competition?
Because of Paramount, Disney, and Amazon?
What are the three or four reasons that this is happening?
It can't just be, well, their content isn't that good or because they got a pregnant guy.
There's got to be some news.
It's one of the worst things that happens to athletes to come.
I saw a Conor McGregor video I showed yesterday in front of the guys.
And when he says, you know, people say a loss is really going to be bad and blah, He says, let me tell you what's worse than a loss that can ruin your career, a win.
When you win, you get softer.
When you win, you show up a little later.
When you win, you get a little cockier.
When you, when you become casual, when you win, natural instinct to most people.
These guys have been winning for too long.
It's like, how many consecutive quarters have you been kicking ass?
You've gotten cocky, you're throwing your weight around.
You're like, oh, we got a Grammy.
We got the Oscars.
Here's who we are.
And the market just said, listen, bro, chill out.
Yes, you're a billionaire.
Yes, you got a lot of money.
Salute for producing a great product and putting a company that almost bought you out for 50 million bucks blockbuster.
You put an $8 billion out, but this is capitalism.
Customers comes first and you just screwed up.
So it doesn't matter.
They royally screwed up because they've been winning for too long.
And maybe the best thing that happened is an L that they just took.
I saw it with Comedy Central.
I mean, they're still a channel technically, but they're not famous for their content, their original content now.
You know, I don't know anything that's on their network that isn't a re-bot.
Like, they're just running office reruns now, but it wasn't that way.
Back in 2009, 2010, I was writing on a show called The Burn with Jeff Ross, the Roastmaster General.
And I remember sitting at the table for one of our first important meetings that we had to clean up the writer's room for.
There was some Comedy Central execs coming in, like whoop-de-whoop.
And they came in, and I remember at one point, literally, one of them said the words because someone had brought up Netflix.
And in 2009, Netflix wasn't really like, it wasn't that big of a deal, but it was coming.
And I think it was even me that mentioned like, you know, Netflix does this thing where they don't have commercials, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever we were talking about.
And I remember the Comedy Central exec who is since fired, not a board member, a regular executive, someone who's supposed to decide what gets a second season or what who we should work with and all these things.
And I remember him specifically saying, we are Comedy Central.
We are the comedy go-to on cable.
And people will always come back to us.
Can't be like that.
No way.
This is not how market works.
You're in the room when this happens.
He was gone two or three years later.
And not only is he gone, but and these guys, you know, again, Hollywood, they all hire each other's friends.
I know these guys are all executives at Apple now and here now and Netflix now, by the way, because they need people with resumes that look like they were doing something.
But meanwhile, they were sinking the ship as it was going on.
They buried this show, which was hilarious.
Granted, I'm a little bit biased because I was one of the writers on it.
But I mean, all these shows that should have been pushed, they hide behind reruns of something, for example.
You don't get to decide when, if you get picked up, you don't get to decide where your new show goes.
Executives are making bad decisions after bad decisions.
They debut a new show, but they're putting it after reruns of this old show.
And so by putting you in a position, they're already deciding that you're going to be canceled because they're going to go your viewership's down.
Meanwhile, you could put a shitty show after, right after a good show, and they get picked up because the people are already there.
Your TV was on the channel, so it's harder to turn the channel than it is to put it on.
We talked about this during dinner with Joe about Disney.
If you remember when a name came up, he's like, I know this person.
I'm not going to mention what it was, but I know this person.
I know this person.
So, by the way, somebody just commented in the comment section.
So they made me take a look at this.
Ackman loses more than $430 million in one day because of Netflix.
So this is when it gets scary because people like this start calling.
When Carl Icon lost money with AIG, do you know what Carl Icon did within two months?
Every day, he bullied the CEO until they had to fire the CEO and the CEO to step down.
Guys like this have so much power where they're making, these are the guys you don't want to piss off.
Like, you know how in Russia they talk about Putin and so who should Putin worry about?
And what do they say?
The family, the ogliarchs, you know, the old agriculture.
If they say anything, you don't want, this is oligarch is who it is.
Ackman is part of the oligarch if you look at it from that standpoint.
But you know, you said something, and it made me think about this.
I've been processing the understanding of the meaning of fear in a different way.
There's certain words in my life, I want to have a better understanding of what this word means.
I was always curious about the word lazy, like why are we lazy?
And then, you know, the more I did, I realized, okay, boredom stems, you know, from laziness.
If somebody gives a boring joke, you're going to become lazy and your body gets tired.
Great.
I want to know what it means to be lazy.
But fear is so confusing because we've been campaigning with the shirt that we all wore as kids that said what?
No fear.
No fear.
Bullshit.
I'm probably extremely afraid.
Let me explain to you what I meant by this.
So somebody asked me the question and explaining.
I'm like, let me tell you when I go back and actually pause.
Like, you know how we all say the answer because it's the right thing to say?
And like, is that really who I was?
Yeah.
Let me think.
I'm a pretty scared guy.
And what do you mean by that?
I was so afraid of my dad dying and my kids never meeting him because I never met my grandma.
I never met my grandpa.
You have no idea how scared I was at that.
I would have nightmares in the middle of the night.
It's not fear of, oh my God, I feared this.
But it was such a fear that created such a sense of urgency for me to get to work because now that fear is gone because all my kids know him so well and they love him.
They love their grandpa.
That fear is gone.
Now the next fear is, I don't want to walk my daughter down the aisle and she marries a schmuck in that moment I'm giving him up, giving her up.
And I'm like, you're an idiot.
And she chose to marry you because daddy made some bad choices and I was lazy and now I have to deal with a moron like you.
I want her to choose to marry a moron because she chose to marry a moron, not choose to marry a moron because he makes 60 grand a year and he's going to support.
I don't want that to be the reason from a place of fear, right?
Netflix is not afraid right now and they should be afraid.
Yeah, I think so.
The market is not afraid right now.
When you get cocky, you lose fear.
You have to be reminded you need to get scared again.
You need to play scared.
Netflix is not playing scared.
The same went with Disney.
What does Disney do?
Disney comes out and they say what?
Well, you know, 50% of the characters we do are going to be part of the LGBTQ really.
So you mean to tell me 50% of America is part of the LGBTQ community?
That's what it is?
That's what we're going to do.
And the stock six months we talked about this, it drops 25%.
While during that time, the market only dropped 0.6%, right?
And then what happens this week?
Here's what happens this week with Disney.
Disney goes to Florida and DeSantis, who is an expert in bullying bullies, does the following.
Disney to lose special tax status in Florida.
Amit, don't say gay clash, the Boston Globe.
Disney usually gets whatever it wants in Florida.
That era ended Thursday when the Florida House voted to revoke Disney World's designation as a special tax district, a privilege that Disney has held for 55 years, effectively allowing the company to self-govern its 25,000-acre theme park complex.
The Florida Senate voted Wednesday to eliminate the special zone, which is called the Reedy Creek Improvement District.
Having cleared the way to this outcome with a formal proclamation, Governor DeSantis will almost certainly make the measures official by adding his signature.
It would take effect in June of next year.
The swift effort to dissolve Reedy Creek has been widely seen as a brazen retaliation after Disney's paused political donations in the state and condemned the no-education law that opponents call don't say gay.
You know what this reminds me of?
The following.
Let me tell you what happens.
Years ago, L. Ron Hubbard was able to get through his lawyers to get Scientology to get the tax status as a religion.
When that happened, it was a fantastic situation for them because they can take all the money they want.
And guess what?
You don't pay any taxes.
When I was in LA, our office was in Woodland Hills.
We moved it to Burbank and Glendale.
Do you know why?
Because Hollywood has a contract with California that they have certain tax advantages in California.
To show you what this means, this is like the government all of a sudden saying Scientology is not a religion.
You're a business.
You're getting taxed.
This is like the state of California telling Hollywood, screw you, you no longer have those tax benefits.
That's how big of a thing just happened to Disney just yesterday.
Yep.
Breaking news.
He just signed the bill just yesterday.
Fantastic.
That was quick.
And I still live in LA, but just for everybody knows, I'm moving to Florida, ASAP, and it's not a joke.
I'm serious.
It's insane how the view of California, the don't say gay build, because that's what people think the bill's actually called.
The word gay is not in the bill at all.
It's like an education, something.
What pissed me off the most, it's not even the bill, because basically it's saying kindergarten through, I think, third or third degree.
Nothing about sex, nothing about, dude, the kids in kindergarten, you're learning, you're digging, and you're like, you're a boy.
That doesn't bother me.
You know what pissed me off the most?
Are the teachers that were going online and recording going, what the, we want to teach that?
Like teachers that were furious because now they can't teach sex and stuff to kindergarten kids.
Like the anger of leave us alone.
We still want to do this.
And it's just, it's like, you sound disgusting.
Like, do you understand what you're sounding like?
But the point is the following.
Here's the point.
You have no idea how excited I am right now.
I love it.
Let me tell you why I'm so excited right now.
Let me tell you why I'm so excited right now.
I said this to Jose Jose and I were Jose Gaita and I were exchanging texts.
Yesterday was just, this has been a special last four days.
I am so excited because in life, here's how this works.
You go to a bar, you get into a fight.
Say you're a tough guy and you push your weight around.
You beat one guy up.
No, no, no, you beat another guy up.
You beat another guy up.
So after a month or two months or three months, you beat everybody up and you're the tough guy at that bar.
There's one guy that's sitting in the corner quietly.
He ain't saying shit.
And then one day you pick on him.
It's over.
And you pick on that guy and then you realize you're officially not the toughest guy in the bar.
You're going to get your ass handed to you.
He's going to publicly embarrass you.
I was in the army and we, in our boot camp, we were all fighting.
And it was a circle and that's how we'd get rid of our testosterone.
We're fighting.
So I'm fighting and I'm no cloud of fight.
I've never done UF.
I've never done MMA.
Nothing.
I'm not a take on nothing.
I'm just, so my nose has been broken one too many times, right?
So I'm fighting.
So I feel so good.
I'm like, oh, look, let me tell you who I am.
So the reputation I got, right?
A guy shows up in the circle.
There's 200 guys that are wanting to fight.
And one by one, bam, guy shows up.
He's 5'657, maybe 130 pounds.
He says, do you mind?
I said, what do you mean?
He said, I'd love to fight you.
I said, I don't want to hurt you.
Yeah, of course.
And this is before UFC.
So you didn't know who knew how to fight back then.
Nowadays, you don't want to fight because anybody knows how to fight.
If they say, do you mind, you should.
Do you mind?
Hilary as shit at all.
What do you say in front of 200 people?
Please tell me this isn't Felix.
But you got, no, Felix can't fight anybody.
Felix just talks shit.
And we have to fight for Felix.
This guy comes and he says, can I fight you?
We fight.
Let me tell you.
Took him six seconds.
What ethnicity was he?
No, no, he was a black guy, 18-year-old black kid like me, and he was from Florida or Ohio.
And I say, and all of a sudden, bam, I'm on the floor.
I'm like, dude, what this?
So what is the matter with you?
He says, I'm the Florida state champion in high school.
I said, why don't you tell me something like that?
Come on.
He says, well, I thought it would have ruined the surprise.
So I said, listen, man, this is great.
We became good friends.
What can I get you?
So the point is the following.
In life, you're eventually going to realize who's out there.
Today, the market is starting to tell you, stop bullying us.
People are waking up.
Elon Musk is fed up and he's done with these bullies and now he's bullying bullies.
Good.
Guys like Rogan are bullying bullies.
Guys like Bill Maher are sick of it.
Think about Bill Maher is sick.
Who's Bill Maher?
I sent something to Jon Stewart two days ago because his show, did you guys hear about Jon Stewart's show?
Yeah, he's racing.
Pull up what I said to Jon Stewart on Twitter.
Jon Stewart's show comes out and they tanked.
They only have 40,000 horsebacks.
He said we're racing.
And he sends a tweet.
He sent right there.
Read his tweet.
He says, holy shit, just think how bad.
Actually, click on his tweet and then go back because you have to see what he's tweeting.
Holy shit, just think how bad it'll get in season two.
And they upped our episode order, WTF, right?
And it's the, he gets 40,000 viewers.
And then here's what I said, John.
You're one of the best to ever do it, if not the GOAT.
However, here's some feedback if you're open to it.
Carry on if you're not.
I feel you have a unique voice.
I feel the market is filled with those on the left and the right who are 100% loyal to their party and not America.
Click on it so I can read the rest of it.
Yeah, click on it, go below it.
I said, I feel 20% of the market who is in the middle is sick of it.
The 40% on the left or the right who doesn't think the other side gets anything right.
We both know that's not true and semi-arrogant to believe that.
Take a comedian entertainer like yourself, Russell Brand, Joe Rogan, Bill Maher, Dave Chappelle, and a few others who use comedy to take shots at people on both sides of the aisle.
What gets annoying is when they, you, only pick on one side and play politics, loyal to the people whose birthday parties and functions you attend.
I believe you have an opportunity to help Unite America.
Bill Maher has gained new audience because he's calling out his own side.
You hesitate to do that for some reason.
It could be fear or comfort zone or something else, not sure.
You were the goat of the original political satire interviews.
You cornered people.
Stephen Colbert tried to be you, but he missed the mark.
Bill Maher has gained a new ton of followers because he's shown he can reason.
He can call out BS.
So much as you may not like this message, but maybe taking a bit of responsibility and owning up to it could change the game.
Not selling out.
Stay core to your values and principles, but strengthen them by seeing flaws in them.
They may not be 100% right.
Again, carry on if this was a waste of your time to read.
That was perfect.
There you go.
I see some of these guys and I say, dude, maybe you're wrong.
And guys like him only have 40,000 listeners.
How the hell, do you realize Rogan has, if we do them at 40,000 times 10, it's 400,000, times 100 is 4 million.
Rogan has 300 times more listeners than Jon Stewart.
Not three times, folks.
300 times more than Jon Stewart.
Just because you're worried about those parties, you're not going to be.
100%.
It's pathetic to me if you are.
How much do you think Jon Stewart is kicking himself for giving up the daily show for whatever this thing is?
I don't even know what the hell that is.
But even who's the Noah guy?
I mean, Trevor Noah.
Trevor Noah barely, barely talks shit.
Like, I think I saw one clip where he was actually like, you know, Joe Biden's, you know, messing up and hope Trump.
I can't believe he actually said it.
But like you said, too, Patrick, when I see Bill Maher now, I'm like, whoa, is he shifting?
My cousin Mike was like, I think he's shifting because he knows nobody wants to listen to your bullshit.
A lot of people are, right?
Have any of your friends from the right gone closer to the left?
Anybody right of center and going far in their left?
Oh my god.
Oh, jeez.
No, no, no.
No, listen to what he said.
I agree with him.
People who were on the far right who have gone a little bit more left.
Yes, I agree.
He's not saying they went from right to left.
He's saying you were far, far right.
And let's just say you were right of mega.
And you're kind of like, yeah, I'm kind of going to be a little bit more here.
And I'm going to be, I don't know, pick a name.
I'm going to be more like DeSantis or I'm going to be more like this.
So I have seen that happen where people are making that shift.
But a lot of people who were on the far left have gone to left and now are in the center slightly right.
That's the part I'm almost seeing like if this is the pendulum, some people are going and they're kind of going here.
And it cracks me up.
People are trying to, I saw something the other day.
They had, I can't even remember the article, but they had Rogan's face on with Ann Coulter and DeSantis and Trump and something.
And I'm literally, these people are right-wing.
Crazy.
Like he's, he is an LA liberal.
I mean, that's what he was at least.
You know what I mean?
Like it's all it's all insane.
There it is.
Yeah, it's that one.
MSNBC.
Look, they have him on with these people because he's a right-wing hate monger is what they're saying there.
Meanwhile, he had Bernie Sanders.
I can't believe it.
It's Washington Post.
They canceled Libs of TikTok.
Yeah, they canceled it.
Let me remind you, this is the guy that endorsed Bernie Sanders for President of the United States.
And now he's a right-winger because he's big because he has the most successful show.
And Adam, Libs of TikTok is just retweeting.
They make videos themselves.
Retweeting teachers that are speaking in front of a camera in their own house or their office.
And she's just reposting it and they canceled her.
Is that insane?
And then the same girl that wrote this article went out on CNBC and cried.
Cried.
Cried on air because she had such a hard time because people were doxing her.
And there were mobs.
And what does she do?
She goes to this girl's house, right, to her family's house, starts banging on the door and then proceeded to dox her and reveal her identity.
And the girl who ran the account is now in hiding.
Yeah, she put her address in it.
She did exactly what that fake is.
That's what I'm trying to say to you.
This doesn't work, man.
Nope.
You can't bully for too long.
Somebody really shows up and then you have to really straighten up your act.
Every kid learns this.
Some learn it at a young age.
Some learn it at a teenage age.
But every kid learns it.
Some companies, it takes them a while to learn it.
We started off as a small insurance company.
We had 60 agents and we grew.
Now we have licensed 35,000 agents, 20,000 active agents, and we've grown.
But every day, I'm still, you know, there's got to be that fear of it.
Even though you got this, it's market.
It's competition.
You can't be arrogant about it.
A lot of these guys are getting arrogant about it.
By the way, did you see Jen Saki crying?
Yeah, I did.
She was.
Did you see that or no?
No, what is she crying about?
She was crying because of the...
Go ahead, tell her.
She was crying because of the DeSantis, the law being put into the thing where you can't teach.
She's thinking it's the most messed up thing that you can't teach.
Again, she's saying that it's anti-gay.
She says, how can you do this to kids who are going through this?
And if they want to be trans, you have to let them be in.
And then she starts crying.
She says, you don't know how much this hurts me.
And I'm like, I'm like, watch him.
I'm like, wait, what?
My buddy Tim Dylan had the best take on that.
I can't remember the exact tweet, but it was basically like, he quote tweeted one of these teachers that was like, how am I not supposed to talk?
If I tell my students that I had a wonderful weekend with my gay lover, like, how, why would I not be allowed to do that?
And Tim Dylan goes, you know, that's cool and all, but everyone knows that all the best teachers are like this mystery, these mysterious figures.
You didn't know anything about them.
They came in with a ratty jacket and ratty hair and taught, you actually learned shit.
They never talked about their personal lives.
You didn't know what car he drove.
You didn't know where he lived.
You didn't know his first name, right?
No, Mrs. Williams, she's in, she's out.
Boom.
Yeah.
And then what was the kicker to that?
But that's it.
It was just that, you know, sometimes his takes are more brilliant than they are, you know, hysterical.
But that was it.
It's like it really got me to thinking, like, yeah, what are we talking about here?
Why would you need to know the personal lives of your teachers on any level, not to mention, I mean, it's just ridiculous.
And what you, I don't know about you guys, Patrick, the only time I learned about sex as a child, and I remember the room, I forgot how young I was.
It was just a slideshow quick of the male body parts, the female body parts.
It was awkward.
Everybody was kind of giggling.
That was it, bro.
It was up to our parents, but Middle Eastern parents, there's no birds and bees.
It's just like, you better figure it out on your own.
But it was one day in class.
Why the anger?
What bothers me is the anger of why can't we teach them what we want?
It's like, bro, relax.
Let the parents teach their kids about sex.
And honey, there's, you know, think about, dude, kindergarten.
You know how confusing it is just to be a kindergarten?
Like, they're kids trying to feel like you're a boy, but you could be a girl, but you could change it on Thursday.
It's too much information for a child, bro.
Wait, wait down the road.
Trust me, they're going to see it.
If they're watching Netflix, I'm expecting they're going to see it when they get older.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, the kids used to figure it out on their own.
When you saw the picture of the male genitalia, either you felt something in your belly or you didn't.
Or when you saw the female genitalia, you're like, ooh, something about that I like.
Or you didn't.
They weren't like, here's what to do with this.
Yeah, exactly.
Let me see.
And you could get rid of yours.
I'm going to throw you guys a completely different angle here.
I actually really enjoy that these people are trying to force these beliefs down people's throats because what's happening right now, I'm not saying whether you're on the left or on the right, is that at the end of the day, common sense is prevailing.
Of course.
And at the end of the day, people are like, I don't know about this, bro.
Like, I don't, why is it like any, I don't care what side you're on.
Anytime you're just like, what's going on?
Like that look, whatever that look, I'm just like, that thing?
It's not adding up.
It's not making sense.
And whether you were on the, on the left and you didn't see what you saw what Trump was doing, you're like, I don't know about this.
Or you're on the right and you're just a common sense person and you're seeing this don't say gay stuff and this Disney stuff and you're just like ah it's a losing proposition.
At the end of the day, common sense is what people yearn for and what they gravitate to.
And if you're on the side of like pandering, to your point, Tony, of to like a small segment of society, you're going to fucking lose.
Yeah.
But it just boggles my mind how, and I'm not, I'm not right, I'm not left.
I'm just in the middle.
How this side, this presidency, this administration, they had talked all that trash.
Trump's gone, right?
They had all this time to at least pick somebody.
They went with Joe Biden, whatever.
He's a familiar face.
81 million votes.
I still can't believe it.
You had all this time to make a stand and change and really make a difference.
What have they done?
And I hate when people just say infrastructure.
I don't care about infrastructure.
Everything is going wrong.
Nothing is going right.
You had all this time.
You talked all this shit about Trump.
What are you guys doing?
And nothing.
And they're just, with shit like this, like the White House, Jen Psaki is furious and crying because it's not cool not to teach these kids about sex.
But they're going to pay the price for this.
I mean, you're seeing, you're obviously seeing it.
Let me tell you what's going to happen.
Okay.
This is so ridiculous how idiotic they are when it comes down to strategy.
There's two different ways.
What's the saying?
Would you rather win the battle or the war?
The war.
Okay.
These guys are all winning battles.
Let me explain.
The more they do this, okay, the more they play this game and pushing whatever down kids' throat, every pastor in church right now is going to be using that message and grow attendance.
Because here's how pastors are going to use it.
They're going to say, how many of you are sending your kids to public school?
If you're sending your kids to public school and you're worried about the values and the principles, there's never been a more important time to plug your kids into a church because the school's not going to do it.
So their stupid ideas and philosophies is going to help the organization they least want to help.
Exactly.
And number two, all this bullshit they're feeding a parent who is sitting there, who was okay doing what they were doing.
Now they're saying, no, my kids are going to go to a Christian private school or a private school that's Catholic or a private school that's whatever that's teaching strong values and principles.
I'll bust my ass to make that additional $1,000 to send them to private school.
Private schools are going to go up.
Public school are going to get their asses handed to them.
Homeschooling is going to go up.
They don't realize how strategy and war works.
It doesn't work the way they're doing it.
They're idiots.
I'm telling you, I believe that.
They're idiots.
I'm seeing it.
Short term, they will win.
Look what DeSantis.
How do you think Disney's board is sitting right now sitting saying, guys, 50, since 19, so for 55 years, we've not paid any taxes?
What the hell did you guys just do?
By the way, do you know how much money that is?
That's insane.
Do you know how much money that is?
Oh, my God.
You're not talking about like a couple million.
You're talking real money.
Billions.
That's called stupid.
That's what it's called.
Stupid.
You made certain things you said that is stupid and you had freedom and now you don't.
Now you're paying a price for it.
By the way, what they said the other day, like they're going to stop calling kids boys and girls.
Well, dude, they're going to only call kids dreamers and fairy bells or whatever the hell that is.
Boys and girls.
And I think, Tony, I want to know your guys' honest opinion.
I think personally, that whole she, he, the, them, that started because the generation, I think one or two after me, hitting your kids became taboo.
Because you know this.
If I went to my father and he's like, Vinny, come here.
And I was like, excuse me, dad, as a Middle Eastern father.
And I went, it's he, them, they, or whatever, he would have been like, they are moving the fuck out of this house today.
Like, it's, I'm not saying beating your kids, but that generation where you can't even talk or be like, listen, relax, chill.
Like, because now it's, it's just free-falling.
I saw somebody.
They, it was the, on certain days, it was be, them, she.
And I'm like, if you think I'm going to fucking take the time to be like, what's today?
And what are you?
I can't, bro.
That's why I'm moving out of California.
I have two emotions right now.
A ton of excitement and confidence and a ton of fear, which combined it together produces urgency.
Yeah.
Is what it produces.
Beautiful.
And I'm good with that.
I want whatever that produces.
Elon Musk, Twitter investment could be bad news for free speech.
You guys saw this on WAPO, right?
Yeah, just real quick, for your daily dose of irony, right?
What does that first line say?
Elon Musk just bought a $3 billion stake in Twitter because when you're the world's richest human, you can toss billions around like who the fuck owns the Washington Post?
Yeah, Jeff Bezos, the second richest person in the world.
You can never undercover.
Tyler.
You've been waiting for this moment, Tyler Merrick.
It's freaking hard to do.
Check this out.
Let me take this.
How many guys know how the poison pill works?
You know, the poison pill that everybody's saying, well, they're going to use the poison pill.
You've heard of poison pill.
But do you know what that actually means?
No, I'd love for you to explain it.
So Tom and I were talking about this, and Tom made a very good point about the poison pill.
Here's how poison pill works.
So they're sitting there, they're saying, it's a defensive strategy by a target from to prevent or discourage a potential hostile takeover by acquiring a company.
Okay, so they want to prevent Musk from taking over Twitter.
Now, Twitter stock is $40 some dollars, $42 when Musk says I'll buy it for $52.
It's like a number like that that you're saying, right?
So if you had a million dollars of Twitter stock, somebody offered to buy it for 20% higher today, and it's not worth it.
Yeah.
And that didn't happen, how much did it cost you?
$200,000.
Right?
So the board's using a poison pill to not allow Musk to buy it.
Well, let's see what happens.
Say they succeed and they don't let Musk buy it.
Musk is going to sell his 9.2% that he originally bought from Twitter.
Twitter stock from $42, what is it going to drop to?
To $30 to $25.
Now, watch this.
If Twitter stock drops from $42, he offered $52.
If it drops from $42 to $25, you know what happens to the board?
The board gets a massive, massive lawsuit from shareholders.
Do you know why?
Because every board's responsibility is who?
Shareholders.
You're responsible for shareholders.
So this poison pill is going to backfire on Twitter again.
They're playing.
They're trying to win the battle, which they will.
They could.
And Musk is playing the war.
Exactly.
He's going to win the war.
They have no clue.
What they're pretty much doing is the following.
Here's what they're doing.
They're going to get their asses handed to them.
Then they're going to get fired.
Then they're going to save Elon Musk $20 billion because Elon's going to buy it for $20 billion less than he is today.
You may as well take that money today and let this guy do his thing.
So even this poison pill strategy is going to be one of the most publicly embarrassing situations for them.
So this is why you trust capitalism and you know that eventually when you bully people, there's going to be people showing up that bullied the bullet.
And Patrick, and all this, all this for him to make the platform someplace where everybody can have their opinion because you guys all know this.
One side is winning.
I don't care what anybody says.
They're winning that canceling and your voice cannot be brought up.
How many things were taken down just because fact checkers and some of the fact checkers, like the guy from Reuters, the owner of Reuters, sits on the board of Pfizer.
So, you know what I mean?
Isn't that like a conflict of interest when you're on the board of fact-checking shit that people like try to ask questions about Pfizer?
That's, you know what I mean?
It's way too much, man.
By the way, did you see what Dorsey said about Brian Stelter?
Can you pull up that tweet?
Reliable sources?
No, I don't know if you guys saw what Dorsey said about Brian Stelter.
So can you make that bigger so I can read that?
So Brian Stelter says, Tucker Carlson is always selling the same thing.
He is selling doubt.
And then Jack responds a minute later, and you all are selling hope.
Oh, God, that's hilarious.
That's from Jack.
Wow.
Then everybody says, shit, Jack is defending Tucker.
And he continues, not defending a thing.
I'm holding up a mirror.
Beautiful.
Is what he says, right?
So think about for Jack to say that to Brian Stelter.
I mean, Jack is supposed to be part of that camp.
So then we all know what happened with CNN Plus.
Let me read some of these statistics to you folks.
Here's what happened with CNN Plus.
CNN Plus will shut down April 30th, just one month after launch.
Okay.
This is a $300 million investment that was lost.
Warner Brothers Discovery has decided to shut down CNN Plus just weeks after its launch.
This is not a decision about quality.
We appreciate all the work, ambition, and creativity that went into building CNN Plus, an organization with terrific talent and compelling programming.
Right.
Chris Lake, chairman and CEO of CNN Worldwide, said, but our customers and CNN will be best served with a simpler screaming choice.
Warner Media launched a standalone new service less than a month ago on March 29.
It garnered less than 10,000 active viewers.
In two weeks after its launch, the company said customers will receive prorated refunds on subscription.
Thank God.
But $300 million was lost with the launch.
And they brought Chris Wallace from Fox.
Imagine he doesn't have a job right now.
How pissed off he has to be.
He was at Fox for 20 years.
And he left for CNN Plus.
And did you see any of the content?
They had like Don Lemon cooking with his mom on FaceTime and there was no Wi-Fi, so you couldn't even see her.
Who's a white-haired guy?
Anderson Cooper.
Anderson Cooper was in his kitchen and he's like, I'm going to do this segment, but my kids sleep.
It was just horrible.
Kim Kardashian marriage to former basketball player, Chris Humphrey, 72 days, lasted two and a half days.
You're messing with me, buddy?
This is what you're doing?
That's hilarious.
That's hilarious.
Did they show it?
Like, John, do you have that up or no?
$300 million CNN Plus.
Wow.
Lost this.
Don Lemon.
First of all, is there anybody more boring than I hate?
He's so boring.
Have you ever tried listening to him?
You know all the gyms in LA?
It's CNN on every...
Dude, it's torture when you're running.
It gets me angry because they plaster it on everything.
And it's just him sitting there judging and talking shit about everybody.
I hate that guy.
I really hate him.
What part of Florida are you moving to?
To Fort Lauderdale.
Hell yeah.
I love it.
Yeah, me too.
Texas was on the playboard.
What do you mean, me too?
I know.
No, I love that.
These are my places.
I met the governor.
I met Ron DeSantis last Saturday at the UFC.
Oh, great.
Him and Rogan met during the middle of it.
There's like a break between the ESPN one, the part and when they switch over to pay-per-view.
We had like seven minutes.
And so Rogan and me and his crew, Cam Hayes and all these people, we jetted to this green room that they had cornered off with DeSantis and his entire like 40-person.
How many people came with him?
Was it Fort Worth?
Yeah, I'm sure it was like the Florida Secret Service or whatever.
They got all advisors.
Anyway, and coolest guy, and literally pitched.
He's like, you guys need to move to Florida.
Whenever you guys are done with your Texas, when stuff hits the fans crawling on there, we'll be waiting for you.
Did he really try to recruit you guys?
Yeah.
I love that.
Absolutely.
So did we.
By the way, what's more welcoming than come stay at my house?
Who's your governor?
Abbott?
Yeah.
Dude, how boss is that guy?
He took all the buses of all the illegals.
He bust them to DC, bro.
They started arriving today.
There's people with umbrellas trying to push.
They were taking selfies of like the cap.
It was fucking brilliant.
What was DeSantis' sales pitch?
He said you had seven minutes with him.
Well, that was it.
That was just when are you moving to Florida?
Yeah, we want you here.
And I go, I said, I love the way that you handled the pandemic, man.
Beautiful.
It's awesome.
And he goes, yeah, who would have guessed that you give the people the choice to do what they want to do would work in America?
Brilliant.
The way he said it, I mean, I fell in love with this guy for the rest of our lives.
He'll get any vote that he ever runs for from me.
That's it.
Common sense.
And for some reason, that's what we seem to be lacking nowadays, right?
It's a bunch of weird shit happening.
Meanwhile, anybody that has any common sense at all, and that guy is just common sense, he's going to walk into the White House.
I think so.
He's going to stroll in without a doubt.
Well, he's got to win the Republican Prime Minister.
You don't think he will.
There's some guy, there's some orange man looming over the Republican Party right now.
Let me say, let me say.
I was going to say, I would rather have, and this is a person, I would rather have DeSantis because, dude, Trump love him or hate him.
It's a little too much, bro.
And people, mind you, they're going to have to dig up there on DeSantis.
What are you going to, what collusion?
What all that?
What are you going to do?
He's a golden child.
He's the one.
By the way, but you got to be very careful on how you sell him because if you sell him as the golden flawless, everybody has shit.
Of course.
Some's going to come out on the guy.
And the market has to be ready.
DeSantis has got stuff in the closet.
So if you just don't get it to answer, I don't know if it's going to be as legendary as Stormy and Karen McDougal type of stuff because that guy took it to Holder from Levin.
100%.
But here's what just happened.
I had ah.
Okay, so I had a conversation with Kid.
I can't tell you, but I had a conversation.
And you're giving me the O's and the ifs.
If Trump runs, DeSantis is not running.
It's less than a 5% chance he's running if Trump goes.
If Trump goes, DeSantis is not running at all.
Is Trump, is the word on the street that Trump is going to be?
99% he's wrong.
Of course, he's not.
Because he's not going to be the vice president.
So that means he's going to wait till 2028, not 2024.
So this is what that means.
Now, so some people that are saying, oh, my God, if anybody's ever thought about moving to Florida, that means DeSantis is going to be the governor till 2028.
So that's a very big insurance policy for anybody that is thinking about moving to Florida because by 2028, that gives them six more years to find somebody to replace him because that's the key.
You got to also find somebody to replace him.
But if Trump runs, which there's a 99% chance he's running, he's not going to be running.
But there's a problem with him waiting that long.
Right now, he's hot.
He's hot.
We've talked about it.
Exactly.
Of course, we agree, but I'm just telling you, he does not want to go face off because he knows Trump's going to talk shit and he's going to talk shit.
DeSantis is not going to just sit there and tell me.
Patrick Tall told you guys, do you think if Trump was, Trump won and Trump was still in this woke, I mean, because the woke movement's been going, but all the stuff that they've been trying to pull and all that stuff, would it be happening or it would not?
I mean, he would be bodying these people on Twitter and out in public speeches.
I think people forget exactly how funny.
Yeah, hilarious.
He was the funniest one.
I mean, and it's like he, again, he's another guy that love him or hate him.
I mean, was calling out this stuff before everybody.
I mean, he's literally not on Twitter anymore.
Yeah, is that crazy?
Which is crazy.
Like, there's people that are like on ISIS and shit that smoking tweet.
It's funny.
Yeah, Vladimir Putin's on Twitter.
100%.
And Donald Trump isn't.
Yeah, who's 100%.
And so there's a reason for that.
He's someone that doesn't want him talking about all of this stuff that is their agenda, period.
So, I mean, that's everything.
That's why this Elon Musk thing is an actual thing, buying Twitter because of that.
It's the blatant thing that he's going to do.
It's obvious.
It's all about free speech.
So how could he keep a former president banned?
It's not possible.
What's the chances that if Musk succeeds and this poison bill doesn't work, that Trump gets back on?
Oh, I think 100%.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think that's the statement.
He's going to show exactly how, he's going to show exactly how free free speech is.
Do you realize, here's the following thing.
If he buys Twitter at 52 bucks and he lets Trump on, Twitter stock will go to 200.
100%.
By the way, it's just a prediction.
Not insider formation.
I'm just telling you.
Brilliant.
It's going to work.
He buys 52 bucks is underpriced with Musk owning it.
I think Twitter stock has the ability from 52 to even 10x within a five-year period.
So that's just a possibility of what could happen.
I agree.
Look at how much they were quoting Twitter.
Twitter was the news for those four years.
Here's what Trump said today.
It was them reporting about Twitter.
Trump will be back on tweeting 40 times a day.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, the greatest troll of all time will be back on again.
He's the GOAT.
By the way, podcast.
How hard is it to succeed in a podcast game?
Is a podcast game a hard game?
Would you say a podcast game is a hard game?
If you love the podcast that you're doing, then it's not.
If you corner yourself into something that my friends always are like, hey, I'm Tony, I'm thinking about starting a podcast.
I think I'm going to do, you know, cooking with comedians or whatever.
You know, that's not even an example, but I'm just saying, like, if you corner yourself into any type of pocket, I think it becomes miserable.
You know, I look, I, you know, I'm friends with Joe and I see what he's doing.
And not only is he, you know, killing it, but he gets to interview whoever he wants and talk about whatever he wants for as long as he wants to talk about that full control.
And people are into it, obviously.
His listenership keeps going up.
Every time they try to cancel him, he gets more listeners, more viewers.
It's, it's, you know.
Well, let me ask you a question.
And he keeps it open.
He didn't paint himself into a corner.
Any Rogan episode, he could be talking to a fighter.
He could be talking to a comedian.
He could be talking to all the people.
I don't give a shit.
Yeah.
But, but imagine if, let's just say a person, let's make this person up.
Let's say there's a person out there who is very well spoken.
He's got 132 million followers on Twitter.
Okay.
Let's say he even becomes a two-term president.
And then let's say he starts a podcast with another guy whose name is Bruce, who's a very famous singer.
Okay.
And they sign a $25 million podcast with Spotify.
Okay.
A year later, Spotify drops him.
Can you see that happening with somebody that big?
I mean, that's pretty crazy for that to happen, but that's what just happened to Barack Obama.
Why Spotify dropped its deal with Barack and Michelle Obama.
Tyler, can you go up so I can read this entire article?
Because this is almost unbelievable.
Make it a little bit bigger so we can read this.
The Obamas are searching for a new home for their podcast after Spotify reportedly declined to offer the former first couple a new contract because they didn't make enough personal appearances on the streaming services.
Brock and Michelle Obama are reportedly in talks with several companies, including Amazon, Audible, and iHeartMedia on deal that will likely be worth tens of millions of dollars, according to Bloomberg News.
The ex-president of former first lady who co-owned the production company Higher Ground will reportedly decide on their podcasting platform of their choice sometime within the next few weeks.
Higher ground is set to be in seeking an agreement that would allow it to release shows on several platforms simultaneously.
One of the sticking points is in negotiations with Spotify and the Swedish company instance in insistence on an exclusive licensing deal, which they didn't want him to give because they want to syndicate it amongst everybody.
Even if the Obamas produce podcasts for another company, those shows will, in all likelihood, make their way to Spotify anyways.
Streaming services want to want the Obamas to make more frequent appearances themselves in order to gender more buzz for the company.
But the former first lady is reportedly willing to commit to no more than eight episode programs.
Higher ground was paid $25 million after signing with Spotify in 2019.
So only eight episodes is what they want.
Spotify is moving on.
Power move.
Is this a smart move on Spotify to drop them a president who has got a very strong audience?
His wife wrote a book that sold 30-something million copies.
You know, whatever the number was, she made $36 million.
Would you say this was a good move on Spotify or a bad move on Spotify?
I think a good move.
Tell me why.
Yeah, because Spotify cares about actual listenership and subscriptions based on what they're paying for.
And even though he has a lot of Twitter followers and she might sell a lot of books, you have to bring them to the podcast world.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, Rogan signing with Spotify and having a built-in audience of a ton of podcast listeners is different and much, much, much more valuable than having a politician who gave many public speeches and has Twitter followers to that.
Like a lot of people, a lot of people have a lot of Twitter followers, a lot of comedians, and they suck at selling out shows.
They can't fill a venue at all.
Yeah.
And they tweet all the time and they work on their following and they post videos and all this stuff.
But if you suck live, you suck live.
And they're not going to get any better at podcasting, doing eight episodes every year.
We know this, right?
You naturally get better at what you do.
They don't want to do it.
They're literally clearly there for the payday.
Yeah, for sure.
And so, yeah, what they should be doing is just episodes for free and putting it out everywhere anyway.
I mean, if they wanted to get good at that thing, but they're not going to get good.
Well, they're just not going to get listeners.
If he did podcasts, him and Michelle did podcasts twice a week and they went one year straight.
Do you think that'd kill it?
Yeah, 100%.
I do as well.
If they did it how often?
Twice a week.
Twice a week.
Yeah.
At the beginning of the article, it says they did it how many times?
12 times for the year.
Yeah.
I mean, what is it called?
You're just kind of like mailing it in or packing it in.
You're just kind of, you're not putting in the work.
Obama is, bro.
Did you guys see they brought him to the White House because Biden's numbers were taking so much?
It looked like a rock star was in the White House.
Joe Biden was behind him, like trying to chase him.
It's just everybody will watch him every single day.
Pat, let me ask you.
I mean, you're a businessman.
You're focused.
Yep.
Okay.
We've done, this is number one.
What are we?
140?
What is this?
Not to mention the X amount that we, 148?
Holy shit.
And not to mention the dozen or so we did back in Dallas under a different name.
If you were only doing this once a month, 12 times a year, what kind of bang for the fucking listen?
We feel it if you don't do it for a week.
Yeah.
Yeah, you feel it if you don't do it for a week.
Podcast game is a lot of work.
But you have to do it steadily.
But I wonder with Spotify, Spotify to give up.
I actually think they made a very smart move because Obamas have to have their show on Spotify and Spotify doesn't have to pay them shit.
They just have to be like, what are you talking about?
I'm not going to pay you nothing.
You're going to put it on here anyways because you have to mess with my audience.
But the reason why we were willing to pay Rogan is because he agreed to be what?
Exclusive.
If you're willing to do exclusive, we'll pay you 25 and you do one or two episodes a week.
But if you want to be able to put this everywhere, why the hell am I going to give you money?
I ain't going to give you shit.
And I think that's the right move they made.
Good for Spotify.
Spotify, you said something.
Spotify is in the business of getting listeners.
You talk such a logical way.
You said, that's capitalism.
Yep.
I don't mind giving you money.
Okay.
I'll give you money, but you got to bring me listenership.
Exactly.
You do?
Great.
Here's what we'll pay you.
And Tony said something pretty funny before the podcast.
He goes, how many people do you know that said, hey, did you catch that latest Obama podcast?
Yeah, I'm actually curious.
Has anybody listened?
If you're in the comment section, has anybody ever listened to one of the podcasts?
And if you've listened to all of them, comment below.
I'm actually curious.
The Obama Hillary.
What's it called?
The Obama.
I'm with him.
The Bringstein.
I'm with him?
No, no, I'm just saying.
No, that's not what it's called.
It's called Renegades.
Yeah, Renegades.
Renegade.
That's fucking hilarious.
It's Obama and Bruce Springsteen.
I don't know.
Should be much bigger than it is, regardless.
I think so.
Should it, though?
I don't know.
Obama and Bruce Springsteen icons.
Don't say it because you don't like his politics.
It's Obama.
Let me tell you.
I think Obama has the poll.
I don't know that Bruce Springsteen has the poll, but I think a lot of people are kind of over.
I think people like Michelle more than they like Barack.
I think people are over Barack.
I think they're done with him.
They're sick of him.
They're seeing the $800 million library he's building in Chicago.
They saw the 800-page fucking autobiography he wrote about.
This is the far-end proud boy Tyler that's talking right now.
Just get back to the normal.
I think people saw exactly what Barack Obama did to the country.
I think they saw how he divided it and destroyed it.
I think they saw that race relations were at an all-time high before Barack Obama took office.
I think they saw that he said Trayvon Martin could be his kid.
I think they see well through Barack Obama.
I think you're absolutely wrong.
I think that's on the right side of things.
There's 80 plus million people that would love to listen.
I don't know why they aren't.
I don't think it's absolutely wrong.
I think you're 20% right.
I think there is 20% that he lost.
But I do think there's a big, like if I'm spot, let's just say Value Tayman and Obama is agreeing to do a podcast with us exclusive and he's willing to sign a four-year, $25 million a year contract with me and he's going to do two episodes a week in a heartbeat.
I'll sign a $25 million contract with Obama for four years for two episodes a week with him and his wife live right here, $25 million.
What do you want to do?
I'll give you $25 million up front and another $75 million over the next three years.
You want to come on?
Let's do it.
He's going to get the eyeballs, period.
It's Obama.
He's young.
He's sexy.
He's attractive.
He's got an audience.
Not an audience that you would kick it with, but he does have an audience.
That's the key.
Barack, if you're listening, Pat just made a verbal offer towards you.
Do you think Spotify?
Come on down to Florida.
Do you guys think Spotify would pay?
How much do you think Spotify would pay Joe Biden to be on the podcast with his wife?
How fucking funny would he pay?
Minimum wage.
Minimum wage.
He would just be trying to shake people's hands that aren't even there.
It's like, dude, that'd be so funny.
That's not him, though.
At this point of the game, everybody knows.
He became president for different reasons.
It's a whole different situation.
That's about to get very ugly.
He became president for one reason.
It's just that he wasn't Trump.
No, that's it.
Okay, no, you're not.
Yes.
But at the same time, listen, strategically, America made a stupid mistake because during 9-11, everybody got behind America.
And the enemy was outside of America.
During COVID, instead of making China the enemy, which would have brought the entire country together, America made Trump the enemy.
And Trump wasn't the enemy.
They're idiots.
Just so you know that.
They're idiots, what they did.
Whether you agree or disagree, that was a stupid move because, yes, you got him to get out of office, but you also divided America.
So you may have done something like, oh, we figured out a way to get rid of that guy.
We've impeached him 17 times.
Who gives a shit?
People now, they're thinking other people are enemies just because they have differences together.
It's a very stupid move made by America.
I don't think that was the right move.
And you still can't say, like, we're not holding China accountable because let's all be honest with each other.
It definitely came from there.
It's still, people are still like, it's kind of racist if you're saying that it's from them.
I'm like, no, no, it's not.
Like, people are right now saying, I would listen to anybody.
Okay, so let's touch you the ERP.
I want to respond to you.
I listen to anyone on PPD but Obama, right?
Okay.
I would love to have Obama on here to ask him some real questions.
Not because, oh my God, we have Obama on.
No, I want to ask Obama some real questions to see what he contributed to and what.
Because remember when he said something a few years ago.
He says, listen, if you can't pull your pants up and you're going and doing this and you don't have the money to do so, you know you're broke.
I don't know if you remember this when he said this like three, four years ago.
That's a statement to community.
So I think there's a part of him.
Look, when you start making money and you start really making some real money, your decisions change.
You start realizing taxes just for the hell of it.
I'm not for it.
You know, I remember when Dave Chappelle got his first big payday and Obama was raising taxes on the first term.
Chappelle's like, dude, this is the first time I've made $6 million.
Can you just wait one more year before you raise the taxes, right?
But even Chappelle is like, dude, I don't want to pay that additional $600,000.
So working hard, making money gets you to realize on certain things with taxes.
By the way, a couple people commented.
I do want to say something on what one guy said to you about you, Tony.
Sonny Barling gave $20 and he says, I didn't know who Tony was until the leaked video.
Now I patiently wait for Mondays.
Hashtag kill Tony.
Ooh, I like that.
Those are my favorites.
Hell yeah.
He gave you a love with your show, which, by the way, why don't you tell everybody about what you do on a weekly basis with your podcast?
It's a cool format.
It's a big, crazy stand-up comedy live show in front of a big sold-out live audience.
And I give people starting out or maybe someone that just wants to, you know, get sort of their little bit of a big break a chance.
I pull names out of a bucket.
And if I pull a person's name out, they get one minute uninterrupted to do their stand-up comedy on a stage while me and my guests sit at a table.
And then they stay up there for about anywhere between 5 and 15 minutes afterwards as I interview them and ask them questions about their life, find out more about them.
So it's like a super spontaneous, crazy, all-improvised stand-up comedy meets regular podcast podcasts where anybody can sort of be on it and people get a chance.
It's sort of like, I don't know, America's Got Talent meets a podcast, but only with stand-up and it's super edgy.
So big warnings there.
We push it to the limit.
What's been your most memorable moment?
Because I've seen a bunch of them.
I know that you and Bill Burr kind of got into something at one point.
What's like the most memorable situation?
One of my least memorable moments.
I remember somebody clipping that out of context as well.
But, you know, I mean, so many, tons.
There's just Russell Peters, okay?
Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, Ron White, Bobby Lee, Theo Vaughan.
Yeah, we've done like, what is it, like 600?
We're up to almost, almost 600.
And you just do them on Mondays?
Yeah.
So you've been doing them for how many years now?
Eight years?
Over eight years, almost nine years, but we've also done a bunch all around the world.
We've sold out theaters in London and Dublin, Ireland, and all over Australia, all over.
Has any comedian gone on just for the one minute and now eight years later they've blown up and they're massive now?
Any household names?
Oh my goodness.
So many.
First of all, all of my people that I made regulars, there's always a few regulars at any given point and they write and perform a brand new minute every single week.
They're all working now.
Every single one of them.
From Hans Kim, the newest regular, all the way to, I mean, everybody's just a full-time comedian now.
Allie Makofsky, Sarah Weinesheng, Kim Congden, William Montgomery, David Lucas, all of these people are doing their own shows.
I love it.
I've seen a few shows.
I'm like, I love the format the way it is.
Guy gets up for one minute.
If you're able to hit it, great.
If you're not, it is what it is.
You got a minute to do.
Do we have callers, by the way?
John, if we got any callers, let's take a couple callers here for the podcast.
By the way, Tyler, I just saw your socks.
Very interesting socks.
Good for you.
Those are my rocket socks.
Wow, I'm so impressed with you, man.
That's so impressive.
Those Obama socks?
Yeah, I see Obama on there.
Obama podcasts.
One of you and the children right next to Bruce, ma'am.
Very impressive.
Just so that I could step on him, man.
Pat, we have a couple calls.
Go for it.
We have Gus on the line.
What a name.
This is a first time.
Gus, how you doing?
Fine.
Everything's cool.
Big fan of your show, by the way.
Also, shout out to Adam.
But anyway, my question is, I know this is like old news, but Louis C.K. just won a Grammy.
Do you think that's a sign that he could come back to Hollywood or is he going to be treated like a Harvey Weinstein type individual?
You know, I hope everything's all right.
What do you think about that?
I think that is the beginning of, I think it's the foot in the door, without a doubt, because he's getting respect from someone, something over there is like, did he get charged with a crime?
You know, these things, when the smoke clears, sometimes, yeah, you also have to remember that a lot of people that it looks like maybe they got canceled.
Maybe they're selling more tickets than ever.
Maybe their viewership is up.
Maybe people went to, maybe even the haters went to find something else to be mad about.
And what are you going to do?
If you're sitting there watching Louie and you're not laughing, you have a dog shit sense of humor.
So, I mean, you're literally not funny.
You don't know what's funny.
And shit that you laugh at stupid because Louie is truly one of the best in the world.
It's completely undeniable.
Nobody doesn't like him.
Nobody can't laugh at him.
So, yeah, what's good is good.
Same thing with Rogan's podcast.
People think he's being canceled.
His listenership keeps going up.
So, you know, the people that are like, I'm going to go find something else.
I'm going to find a clip that makes me mad.
They end up getting addicted to long form conversation.
All of a sudden, instead of listening to Pink Floyd on their drive to work every day, they're listening to Joe Rogan because they're into that format now.
They get hooked.
And Louie does good work.
So does Joe.
People that do good work will continue.
I mean, look, you say Wines, is he going to be treated like Weinstein?
People, even though he's not getting the money and sold or whatever, people are still watching all those Weinstein movies.
I just watched Goodwill Hunting.
Every time you watch a Tarantino film, a lot of your favorite movies, The Matrix, a ton of them he made.
So like you can cancel, you can try to cancel a person, but you can't really cancel their work.
Do we have any other callers that you want to chime in, John?
Yes, Eric is on the line.
Eric, how you doing?
Hey, I'm doing great.
Thank you so much for the opportunity to be on the show.
And my question is: can we trust Elon Musk with owning Twitter?
Do you think he will push his own agenda like Jeff Bezos does with the Washington Post?
Or will he stay true to his statement of freedom of speech?
I think he absolutely will push his agenda, but I trust his agenda more than the current agenda.
Everybody who buys a business, there's an agenda.
When you take a girl out, you have an agenda.
Your phone call today came with an agenda.
Our podcast has an agenda.
Kill Tony has an agenda.
The current administration has an agenda.
Nobody here is naive.
But his track record of creating businesses and finding ways to do things better I trust more than I do everybody on social media agreeing together.
Right now, all the major social media platforms all follow by the same guidelines.
All of them do.
They all follow and drop everybody.
To get one platform owned by a guy like Elon Musk that's not going to be doing that, I think that gives everybody competition and scares the crap out of them, which is something we need today.
John, do we have another caller?
Good question.
We have Victor on the line.
I wonder why they don't have Pulp Fiction on there.
Who's this?
Nobody's messing with us.
We have Victor on the phone.
Victor, how are you?
I'm doing all right.
How are you?
I'm good, man.
What's on your mind?
No, I was just curious.
I follow the markets pretty closely.
And I'm sorry, I'm a little starshocked here.
My man.
So you follow the markets quickly.
I'm sorry?
You said you follow the markets closely?
I follow the market pretty closely.
I've done my own studies on it.
And what I'm curious to know about your opinion is who do you think is going to show up in the big short too?
Who do I think is going to show up in a big short two?
Meaning, like who's going to be the modern day Michael Burry or who's going to be the AIGs of the world or the WAMU in the world that went from being worth 330 to 1.9 billion bought by Chase?
Like, which one are you talking about?
What was that second part I missed?
You know how WAMU used to be a big bank and it was competing with everybody and then Chase came in bottom for $1.9 billion two years after being valued at $330 on Forbes or Lehman Brothers or Bear Stearns.
Like who's going to crumble next?
Is that what you're asking?
Yeah, pretty much.
You know, there's people that bet against the economy.
There's people that bet with the economy.
But who is going to come out on top?
Who's going to come out on top?
Those who have a real business that's making real money.
So you like, you know, all these SPACs that went out of business and the SPAC model, like 80% of the SPACs are not even worth looking at because there's not real proven business within the SPAC.
Are you following that, Victor, or did you, John?
Did you just drop them?
He's still on.
Okay.
So you know the SPACs.
Are you familiar with SPACs, Victor, or no?
Victor, are you familiar with SPACs?
Yes, I'm sorry.
I'm having a hard time hearing.
Okay, then, so if you know what happened with SPACs, you would know what's going on.
Fact that those that don't have a real business model are going to get their asses handed to them.
I think private equity is going to take a hit.
I don't think we have too many no income, no asset stuff right now.
People that are buying homes you kind of got to have 10 or 20 percent in there.
They're not doing the kind of hundred percent financing that was being done back in the days in the 2000s.
I do think some of the banks are going to take big hits, but not the way they took it before.
But these guys that are playing you know all-in money into the market without a real, proven business model, they're going to take hits.
A lot of NFT companies are going to take hits.
Uh, there's going to be a few of them that are going to make it, that are going to do well, but most NFT companies are going to take a big hit.
But anyways, I can go on into that a little bit more.
John, do we have any other callers that have a question for Tony?
Victor, thank you for the call.
Do we have any other questions for Tony?
Uh no, we don't.
That's a wrap for calls.
Okay, sounds good.
So what I want to do is the following, this shirt here, free Will that I have on.
Okay, if you can see this.
Obviously it's not about free will, it's about Freeing Will Smith.
This started with the conversation that we had uh, during dinner, which was a bet.
I think there was a hundred dollar bet that was made, you and you and Joe Rogan.
We made it.
We made a bet and the bet was what, within 12 months, there's going to be a divorce or there's not going to be divorce right right, you made, you said that there is going to be a divorce.
I bet on the hundred dollars Being.
Rogan said no.
I said no one's willing to take me on this bet.
He says i'll bet you, let's bet a hundred bucks right, and so so you and Joe Rogan threw down a lofty 100 bet.
Well, I think he can afford it and i'm gonna.
I'm gonna afford it as well.
But here here's the point.
The point is what, while we were, we were having a conversation for me it was more from the standpoint of that video that came out with Jada and Jada bullying Will and Will saying, social media is my bread and butter.
I don't appreciate what you're doing right now.
And she says, you can tell now why we have issues in our marriage.
I think Jada's a bully.
I think Jada Smith Pink It.
Jada Pinkett Smith is a bully and she's bullying Will.
And I think this guy has been sitting behind closed doors.
Do I think he's done what he's done and had a lot of fun?
One million percent?
Do I think he's done some stuff that's broken Jada's heart?
One million percent?
Do I think there's a possibility that Jada has said and used the following words, that if you do anything, i'm gonna tell your darkest secrets to the world?
Of course, of course, i'm leaning towards yes yeah, 100.
Do I think there would be a red table conversation, throwing Will under the bus?
Maybe I don't know.
I think there could happen.
Do I think it would be playing the victim card?
You don't know how difficult it was being married to Will?
I think so.
Do I think Will went on?
Charlemagne, The God, The.
What is that show?
Uh, Breakfast CLUB?
Yeah, and Charlemagne asked him a question, saying, hey, how does it feel knowing Jada will never love you the way she loved Tupac?
Yeah, and he asked the question of Will.
Do I think that bothers him?
Yes, do I think the market seeing what happened with Augustas at Augusta?
What's the guy's name?
Yeah, so do I think that bothers him on how the market sees him?
Yes, do I think Jada maybe has something on him with challenges with maybe, men and he He had certain things that he did with men over the years.
I think there's something there.
But I think the guy almost needs to be given permission to call it quits and move on, and he's afraid to do so.
So that's why the hashtag free will to say, Will, buddy, if you're going through it, man, somebody needs to talk.
Because I can guarantee you, here's a challenge.
Somebody asked, Joe and I were having a conversation about, have you ever talked to a friend about having to get a divorce?
Remember how that conversation went?
Because I've had those conversations with a handful of friends, but it's only been a handful of friends.
And the conversation goes like this.
And by the way, 60% of the time when you have that conversation, it backfires on you.
Because here's how the conversation goes.
I had a friend of mine.
I pulled him aside.
I'm like, dude, how do I explain this to you?
You are an alpha.
I've known you for many years.
You've always been an alpha, but you've turned into a beta.
And I look at your face.
You hate it because you've compromised your own values and principles.
And it feels like every time I talk to you, you're walking on eggshells.
It feels like you have handcuffs and shackles right now.
And you don't know what to do next.
And I just want to tell you from the outside, I'm not the only person that notices this.
Okay.
You need to make a decision.
I've had this types of conversation with men and women.
Before I get to this point, I want to push therapy.
I want to push as much.
Go places, go do stuff together.
But every once in a while, get to this point, right?
Out of the five conversations, three of them, guess what happened to it?
The individual goes back and tells who?
Great, the wife.
And after they tell the wife, what does a wife do?
You can never talk to Patrick.
You can never talk to Patrick again.
So the phone gets fucked up.
You're done.
It's over.
Okay.
But the other two went and processed it.
And one of them took the lead in the family, read a book called No More Mr. Nice Guy.
And the wife actually responded to him and said, you know what?
I've been waiting for this.
And they've been happily married till today.
The other one went and had the conversation.
She was not having it.
He left her.
I think I wonder how many people who are friends with Will have the audacity to give that advice because they know it's going to go back to who?
Her.
And if it goes to Jada, what do you think Jada's going to do to that person?
Okay.
Of course.
So think, you know, one time a guy and I were having a conversation.
I said, listen, a friend of mine, I said, look, why is it that everything I talk to you about, you go tell your wife?
It's just my wife.
I said, do you think that's how it works?
Yeah.
I said, let me get this straight.
What book tells you that everything you tell me, you have to go tell your wife?
I said, do you think everything you tell me, I go tell my wife?
He said, well, it's your wife.
Aren't you supposed to do that?
I said, no, that's not how life works.
Why?
What's your biggest concern?
Here's my biggest concern.
If me and Tony are homies and we're buddies, we're best friends.
He's married.
I'm married.
He confides in me in something.
I go tell my wife.
Three years later, my wife and I get a divorce.
Hypothetically, what's her loyalty to Tony?
This much.
Did you understand what just happened?
Is this much loyalty that she has to Tony?
She doesn't sit there and worry about what Tony's career is going to be, right?
It's my loyalty to him that I just lost Tony.
So now Tony doesn't feel comfortable talking to me.
I'm convinced there's a web that Will is in, man.
I think she has videos of him getting pounded by dudes.
No, there has to be something, dude.
So he's staying in it for the black man.
The name of the video?
Men in black.
Oh, man.
Well played.
Well played.
I actually have one real idea that I think needs to happen.
Because what I'm getting very sick of is these A-list Hollywood alpha men getting emasculated by women.
Right now, the two biggest stories in Hollywood right now are freaking Will Smith and Jada Smith and Johnny Depp and Amber never heard of him.
Never heard.
Okay.
And I think what needs to happen is they need to sit down in a room and have two mirrors and one seat in the middle of the mirrors.
Okay.
And Leonardo Frequen DiCaprio needs to say, welcome to the room, gentlemen.
No.
We are in a very elite company right here.
We are the biggest A-list stars in the freaking world.
And I want you both to look at a fucking mirror.
You're Will Smith.
You're Johnny Frickin Dev.
Like, just look in there and remember who you guys are.
You could do whatever you want.
You own the world.
You're worth hundreds of millions.
And you're just getting emasculated by these women taking your money and taking your pride.
Follow my playbook here for a second, gentlemen.
You don't have to not get married out of kids, but be a goddamn pimp.
Maybe I'm doing too much stuff with fresh and fish and rollo these days.
I don't know.
Shout out to those guys.
But man up, Will Smith.
Man up.
But here's the thing.
Let me tell you.
You ever been in a web?
Have you ever been in a relationship like that with a woman where you felt like you have you ever?
Because I've been, have you ever been in a web?
Of course.
Okay.
When you're in it, how oblivious are you?
Yeah, you are.
Like, you almost have to be out of it to notice it.
Who do you know that hates Will Smith prior to the slap on the face and what happened with you tell me who you've ever met that's ever hated Will Smith?
Nobody.
Beloved.
I mean, beloved is an understatement.
American legend.
American legend for a guy to come from his background and build a story that he's built.
People forget Fresh Prince of Beller, all these movies he's done, all these major films he's done, and he's going through this.
So here's what we're doing, folks.
If you want to support this, this is what we're doing.
If you want to wear this shirt to start the conversation and post it, you can buy this shirt.
I'm being serious with you.
You can buy this shirt at freewillshirt.com.
Am I saying it correctly?
Can you put the website so people can't see it?
You can buy freewillshirt.com.
We're selling it for $29.99.
100% of the profits is going to National Institute of Mental Health.
I love it.
100% of the profits.
You can buy this and free will.
Pick your size, 30 bucks, go all the way to the bottom.
Go all the way to the bottom.
Press no thanks.
Click on that link, National Institute of Mental Health.
Whatever we sell, we're sending all the money there because I do believe, I do believe Will is having certain mental challenges right now.
And I'm telling you, I'm convinced his therapists, his friends, everybody's afraid of Jada.
And somebody needs to have this video be shared with them for him to say, you know what?
You know, I don't like why you, you know, people are talking like this.
Or he's going to say, maybe this makes sense.
And by the way, I'd love to see it work out.
I just think it's way past the level of it working out.
It's time for him to move.
Joe doesn't think it's going to work out.
Joe thinks he's going to live unhappily with Jada for at least longer than a year.
He cannot do that, though.
He's such a special guy.
I know, but it's already been a long time.
You know what I mean?
Guys like that, sometimes they get in too deep.
He's the best.
You said it best.
He's surrounded by yes, men.
What was the date of that?
We're going to know because this was early April.
This was early April.
UFC Jacksonville.
Whenever we got the date of UFC.
And Adam, you could see his soul.
Like in that video where she's recording him, you could see his soul is just like a damn thing.
I love that this whole thing started with a dinner, group dinner with yourself.
First of all, Joe Rogan at 4 o'clock.
What's the name of that restaurant?
Do you remember?
Cal Ford Steakhouse.
Wow.
The owner sent me a big fan of the content.
Calfords in Jacksonville.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
By the way, the wait, what was the waiter's name?
I wish we could give him a shout out.
Man.
That guy is a men.
She was like, the guy spoke like John Bernthal.
I kept telling him, you sound like John Bernthal.
He had the right voice.
What's the name of the place again?
Calford.
C-O-W-F-O-R-T.
I'd like to give these guys a shout out.
I'm starving right now.
I'm not one of you.
No, no, no.
By the way, this was in Jacksonville.
I would not have expected a best quality restaurant.
Bone marrow.
Okay.
Faux gras.
Oist.
It was the most high quality.
Anyways, it was insane.
Amazing?
Highly recommended.
And the owner's even a classier guy on what they're doing.
Fantastic place.
I'd love to go there tonight to eat, but it's a long drive.
Anyways, gang, listen: if you agree with what we just talked about in regards to Will, just start the discussion.
Talk about it wherever you want to talk about it.
And if you sport the shirt, other people are also going to talk about it.
100% is going to go to National Mental Health Institute, is where the profits are going to go.
But last but not least, before we wrap up, Tony, you're performing tonight.
Where are you performing tonight?
Miami Improv.
Two shows and two shows tomorrow.
And yeah, I'm on a big tour going to a bunch of places.
TonyHenchcliffe.com for tickets.
And if you're not following his show on YouTube, Kill Tony.
If you just type in Kill Tony, you'll find it.
It's hilarious.
The format is great if you haven't seen it.
And then our brother here, Vinny O'Shana, future looks bright.
