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By the way, we're live with a guy giving 50 bucks in whatever currency that is mindfulattraction.org and says, hey, Pat Ben David, you're next.
Watch out.
He's referencing a LeBron James tweet that maybe we'll talk about today.
Ricky, it's good to have you on.
We got Ricky Cargo, the CEO.
I'm excited.
Thank you.
I think it's a very important observation the viewers have to make in today.
Obviously, we have Batman here.
We have Joker here.
We have Ky in the back.
We have Tequila here of The Rock.
He tried it two days ago.
I still haven't tried it.
Adam still hasn't tried it.
When we get to 3,500, we'll do a shot.
When we get to four, we'll do shots.
Who knows?
Every 500 above 3,500, we'll do a shot.
Hopefully, we won't get above 4,000 and we'll turn it off.
5,000 will get turned.
But there's a couple other things in the props here you don't see, and that is Adam's shirt's not buttoned.
Oh, yeah.
We did it for Ricky.
Just not buttoned up.
Well, for John Stocks.
Yeah.
You did the best.
Just lost our mustache.
For Ricky, I lost all my buttons.
Just incredible.
We want to make our guests feel very comfortable and at home.
You're looking forward to it.
And Ricky, I'm surprised my shirt is lower than yours, bro.
I'm wearing a V-neck today.
What's up with that?
You know, I had to change it up, bro.
Got to keep guys guessing.
That thick gold chain, though, bro.
I got a very thin chain with a Miami Heat logo and a Jewish star.
I'll work on my way up to the thick gold chain.
You're iced out.
You're blank.
Well, this is actually something that I wear all the time.
It's a centenario, which is it represents the 100-year university anniversary of Mexico's existence.
So they make it maybe 100 years.
And they haven't made one recently.
It's kind of a status symbol within the Mexican community as well.
You got status.
We all know that.
No, I don't got status.
Oh, yeah, I think so.
A lot of people have status.
A lot of people have a song made after them.
He literally has a song made after him by pretty famous artists, by the way.
Can we hear it?
Can we hear it in the Mexican community and tells his story?
Yeah.
You know, Michoacán, he comes.
I had somebody translate it for me two weeks ago to hear what it's saying.
It's actually all about our frontier, Ricky.
Straight up.
Straight up.
Why have we never played it?
It's got a music video.
Oh, yeah, I'll even play it.
I don't know if we can play the music.
How can we not play the song that's about Ricky?
No, no, no, shout out to my boys from Legal Ciete.
My boy Alexig did an incredible job with it.
We filmed it in Jarupa Valley.
The music video was sick.
They're great artists.
He's from Ito Cane, immigrant, living the American dream with his family.
So I'm very proud of him.
Him and Legal Ciete Crew.
They're just great people to work with and super humble.
So listen.
Can we get a little sample?
Even if you have to sing it, what's up?
I'm not a senior.
Come on, Ricky.
You're a performer.
You got to see it, though.
You got to see it.
You can see it too.
But by the way, if you got any questions that you want us to talk about, any topics, I put the link below of my Twitter account.
Go up there, comment, send your tweet with hashtag PBD podcast for us to comment on.
Kai, can you do me a favor?
Somebody deleted my comment, and I'm value Tammy.
I think it's Mario or somebody back there thinking it's a fake profile.
It was actually me putting it because of.
God forbid you're next.
You know Mario's jump in front of that butt.
You know Mario's jumping in front of that butt.
Well, listen, gang, we got a lot of things to cover today.
We got a lot of things to cover today.
Netflix looks like they got competition.
They're a little worried about Disney passing them up.
World soccer was turned on its head by the creation collapse of the European Super League in a chaotic and shocking 48-hour period, which we'll find out who has power in Europe.
The billionaires, the leagues, the players, or the fans.
We're going to find that because this reveals a lot.
YouTube rivals seems tremendous growth, welcoming users on the left or the right.
Rumble SEO says, Elon Musk proclaims himself as the emperor of Mars, which kind of validates what you're doing.
I've been saying it all along, man.
Elon Musk also said that he was a Secret Service special agent when he donated to the Republican Party and FEC filing shows.
This is not a spoof, right?
Kai.
This is a real story that you got here that he says he was a Secret Service agent for a special agent for Republicans.
Very interesting.
Tom Brady says actions speak louder than words to Pat Mahomes.
They went back and forth, and Pat Mahomes said, We'll find out in 20 years who is better.
I love the fact that he has the audacity to say that, but I also love the fact that Tom Brady is finally calling out everyone saying he's the greatest of all time.
Vanessa Bryant, Nike opt out to renew 20-year-long long-term relationship partnership over differences.
So Nike said no to extending the contract with Kobe Bryant on the shoes.
I really want to dig into that one.
Venmo just added crypto trading as personal finance apps.
Look to cash in on the latest surge into digital currency.
Billionaire LinkedIn founder Reid Hoffman tells businesses to stop funding politicians who support voting rights restrictions.
Let's define voting rights restrictions.
Lululemon launching a resale program, taking back like new clothing.
Meaning, so if the clothes are new, they're taking it back and then they're reselling it.
Should Democrats pack the Supreme Court?
Maybe we'll get into that.
And obviously, everything that happened with Derek Chauvin the last 24 hours, which has caused mayhem, and as well as the shooting that took place with the knife, the teenagers.
We'll show the video.
Kai, if you have the right video for us to show, if we have any kind of video to show, it'd be good to at least give a glimpse of what happened there.
And then we'll get into that topic.
So Ohio police kills a black teenage girl seen threatening others with knife.
Senator Bernie Sanders introduces a bill to make college free and have Wall Street pay for it.
Waters demonstrate Waters to demonstrate get more confrontational Maxine Waters.
Bernie Sanders and AOC get 2% each in 2024 Iowa Democratic caucus poll without Biden.
AOC is getting 2%.
Let me say this one more time.
AOC is already being looked at as a potential future president.
Ricky, think about AOC as your president, Ricky's president, future president.
Latina, you would care.
I don't support this.
No, no, no.
I don't support this whole, she looks like me.
He looks like me.
So Hitler looked like the Jews too.
No, he did.
No, no.
No, no, I'm just saying.
Just because they look like you doesn't.
Salinas de Gordati, which was a president of Mexico, which literally bankrupted Mexico, he looked like me too.
I don't care.
I don't buy into that.
I don't buy into that.
That's a bunch of PM.
Maybe he gets triggered.
Maybe we'll make that our first story.
He's got a lot of 40 guns.
We can't have a bad thing.
Maybe we'll make that our first story.
Los Angeles come in, could offer thousands of poor residents $1,000 a month, no questions asked.
That's a Mayor Garcetti story.
Putin warns West of harsh response if it crosses Russia's red lines.
Dozens of Alexi Navalny supporters arrested on day of protesters against Vladimir Putin.
Alexey and Navalny, we haven't covered the story yet.
I think we ought to cover the story.
I agree.
We'll get into that.
Senator Elizabeth Warren wants to grill the billionaire who said the rich would hide their assets from a wealth tax.
We're definitely going to cover that.
And Adam's best friend, Donald Trump, very seriously considering the 2024 run.
Mrs. Helping People.
Okay.
So before we get started, before we get into the topics, I got to address maybe what people are thinking.
What's that?
Well, we talked about, you know, me, you know, suited and voted.
Ricky, you know, iced out.
PBD.
What's that?
You've had a three-day run of just looking fresh, looking sharp.
You even posted a picture on Instagram.
I called you Swaggy P.
I think you could take that name.
What's the deal?
Like, you're in a three-piece suit on Tuesday.
You just got a new haircut.
What's up?
I feel good this week.
By the way, shout out to this kid yesterday.
Sam and I went to get a haircut.
This guy named Drew, who's a celebrity.
What do you call him?
Barber, celebrity barber.
Yeah, okay.
Jennifer sends me, I said, baby, I got to get a haircut because you know, Rapatoni, I hadn't cut my hair for six weeks because I don't trust anybody touching my hair.
Wow, that's a long story.
He was considering flying and a barber just to find Rapatoni to come in and cut hair and cut everyone's hair in and go back home.
That's how much we love Rapatoni.
But Jennifer says, This is where you got to go get a haircut.
She sent me this four weeks ago.
Two days ago, Drew sends an Instagram story tagging me saying, Last night I had a dream I was cutting Pat's hair.
So you got to be kidding me.
So the same address Jen sent.
So I get the address.
I say, Where are you based at of this place?
Sam and I go in there.
This guy's quoting videos from five years ago, six years ago.
He was emotional crying for five minutes.
It was the most incredible experience with this guy.
So this haircut is sponsored by Drew, celebrity barber in Boca out of Meisner.
If he's listening to that, so you look fresh.
Yeah.
You're posting fresh pics.
The hair looks fresh.
We got big plans.
We got big plans.
Yeah, we're taking over the world.
I don't know if you heard that.
Yes, we are.
But I got to address what people are talking about, baby.
We got to bring up the fact that you posted another post saying, I'm thinking about just shaving my head, going back to the show.
You're not with it.
Hell no.
Shake what your mama gave you, Pat.
We know that.
Shake what your mama gave you.
So you got great hair rocket.
We're going to see.
Ricky, on the other hand, he's going shaved head.
Don't you know how easy it is to wake up in the morning and not have to do anything with your hair?
It's a lot easier than having to do this every morning.
That's an easier life than this is a life.
But we'll see.
We'll see what's going to happen.
But you're the kind of guy that likes a tough life.
15 minutes to get this hair in the morning to talk to it, to woo it, to seduce it.
It's so frustrating.
Yeah.
Sometimes.
Okay.
Are we ready with your unbuttoned shirt that this is for Ricky?
Respect you.
Last night we had the most epic debates over sushi about flowers, about guns, about religion, about what's more likely to happen to Adam.
Is he more likely to be a Republican or a Christian?
And am I more likely to be a Jew or a Democrat?
Which was a great debate last night.
I love to know what the people have to do.
Yeah, let's see what they're going to say about it.
Anyways, okay, listen, if you just got on, if you haven't subscribed to the channel, do so.
We're trying to get this thing to 100,000 subs to do it more than twice a week.
If you're enjoying it, we're striving for that.
And to help with the algorithm, smash the thumbs up button if you're happy that we have Ricky back on here with us.
Let's get right into it.
Let's talk about the potential future presidential candidate, AOC.
Okay.
And Bernie's already been one, but AOC, page six, if you want to go to it.
Page six, if you want to go to it.
Iowa caucuses 2024.
Bernie Sanders and AOC get just 2% each in 2024 Iowa Democratic Caucus' poll without Biden.
That's a newsweek story.
Okay.
So even though there are distant long shots in a new survey of Iowa Democratic National Presidential Caucuses, that does not include President Joe Biden.
The poll released Monday by Republican Firm Victory Insights shows both progressive lawmakers with 2% support each.
Vice President Kamala Harris is the clear frontrunner at 28%, with Secretary of Transportation Pete Butichich following at 15% and former first lady Michelle Obama at 12%.
Undecided was the second most popular choice overall at 16% with 5% saying they would vote for someone else.
Biden was far and away the top choice when he was including the poll with 63% support.
The poll was conducted over the phone among 600 Iowa Democrats on April 8th.
Thoughts?
You know, ignorance is bliss.
That's for sure.
To live in a world where people are going to feed into your victimhood mentality, your the world's against me mentality, it's an easy life to live because you can just sit there and blame everybody for your for your misfortunes or for your bad your bad decision making.
And then when you have somebody with 12.1 million views, I mean, 12.1 million followers that can say, yes, you're right, you're a victim.
You know, actually, I'm not surprised.
I'm disappointed at people's idiocy, but I'm not surprised that she's getting that much clout because most of America are not most.
I'm sorry.
Let me retract that.
A lot of Americans are self-pity type of people.
They believe in institutional racism.
They believe that there's a government out to get them, which I don't believe any of that bullshit.
I just don't.
It just, you know, maybe it's because I've lived through it.
You know, I'm a Hispanic immigrant from Yacha, Mexico.
I actually come from one of the most cartel war-torn parts of Mexico.
And I dropped out of high school.
I was incarcerated 13 years ago.
And here I am sitting in front of you.
And nobody gave me anything.
We were never on government assistance.
My mom was a single mom taking care of two kids.
She took care of Min Alejandro, working two jobs.
She sold tequila and she was doing, she was a waitress.
My mom didn't know what government assistant was.
So therefore, we survived that.
And here I am as a top 1% income earner of America with no help from the government ever.
So I just don't, I can't, it's very hard for me for me to buy in.
Well, you know, a lot of people, I understand if you're, you know, second generation wealth how you can say, well, you were born into money.
I get that, but we were not born into money.
Minajandro.
Now we're both part of the 1% thanks to your help and your coaching.
So what I'm getting at is that if you put yourself in the right environment, put yourself around the right people, that you're going to win.
But a lot of people are going to buy into.
There's no opportunities.
If you can't find opportunities in America, where the hell else are you going to find them?
You're screwed.
People come here, migrate here.
If I'm not mistaken, the number was 91 million people come here a year, either passing through or staying here.
They're coming here.
I mean, if people are trying to, are dying on the way up from south of the border to get here, there's a reason why they're doing that.
Nobody's migrating to China.
Nobody's migrating to Germany.
They're migrating here.
So if you can't, as an American, find an opportunity in America, what the hell are you going to do with your life?
We are the beacon of capitalism, free enterprise, and entrepreneurship.
And if you can't do it here, you're screwed.
And I'm glad that, you know, Elon Musk is calling himself the emperor of Mars because that's the only other place you can go.
Well, I mean, you can't do it here.
Where the hell else are you going to do it?
Well played, Richard.
I mean, oh my God, you need to go to another planet.
So maybe let me ask you a different question.
By the way, AOC is born October 13th.
I'm very surprised she's a Libra because we're five days apart.
She's 13, I'm 18, right?
But she's born October 13th, 1989.
She is 31 years old.
Four years from now, she'll be 35 years old.
It's the age to be able to be president, the way they're doing the math.
Apparently, if she is in this poll, that means she is eligible to run if she chose to.
But this is more importantly, I think the question.
Let's say, okay, let's run a poll.
Let's run a poll.
Let's run a poll.
I'm actually curious with everybody here that's watching this.
Let's run a poll.
Okay.
How likely is it that in the next 40 years, AOC, who's only 31 today, in the next 40 years, she's 71.
How many elections does she have in the next 40 years?
10 shots.
10 shots.
Okay, well, if it's a two-term, you know, all that other stuff, fine.
But let's just say she's got 10 shots, right?
What is the likelihood of AOC in the next 40 years to be the president of the United States?
Next 40 years.
Likelihood of winning.
Give me a percentage.
I'm kind of spit on it.
Let me tell you, White Pat, because I think that we're going in such a bad direction right now under the leadership that we have right now.
And it's just obvious.
This is not an opinion.
It's mathematical facts that we're pushing so hard that we're realizing.
I think Americans, some American, majority Americans are realizing.
Elon Musk said it best.
The left is losing the middle, right?
So I think we're pushing so hard on one side.
The left is losing the middle.
Losing the middle.
Elon Musk quoted that.
He's literally, I think he tweeted that.
So I think that there's two parts to it.
If they don't push hard enough, there's a maybe 80% chance.
But if they push too hard, people are going to realize that we're under really bad leadership.
Like, I don't think they realize that right now, right?
So, once they realize that we're losing all battles at the border with global trade, with the economy, with the stock, I mean, we're losing every battle.
America's losing every battle.
And you don't have to agree with it.
Look at the numbers.
If you don't agree, because you don't look at the numbers, if they push hard enough, I think people are going to wake up and we're going to rebound from this on a hard way on the other side.
So, but if they still, people are still naive and dumb and they're not realizing how bad they're being affected.
Then, yeah, there's an 80% chance she'll be president in the next 40 years.
Unfortunately, give me a percentage.
5%.
No, 80%.
Because you sold me on the idea that victims are the best recruiters.
You've hands down.
You've talked about that before.
You told me that three years ago.
You said victims are the best recruiters.
Yep.
And I'm like, you're right.
So I think that she's going to be 80%.
80%.
Unbelievable.
What do you think?
Yeah.
Well, shout out to Ricky.
He's passionate.
He's fired up.
He's really going in.
I don't think he's a fan of AOC.
I don't know if you can tell that.
So 80%, I think, is aggressive, bro.
I'm thinking, you know.
Nobody thought Trump was going to be president.
Look at that.
Look, let's talk about track record here.
She might not even be 35 by the time the election comes up.
So I think it's just before I get to my first.
40 years in the next 40 years.
Yeah, yeah, but let me just talk.
Okay, well, let me just, you know, you went on a diatribe here.
Let me give you my diatribe and then I'll go.
Look, she hasn't done shit in her career.
Okay.
She's a representative.
When's the last time a senator other than Barack Obama has been elected president?
Okay.
Kennedy.
I don't know who else.
So a representative.
She's big in New York.
People in New York like her.
That's great.
You got to win something bigger than your district to actually become president.
So look, we're talking four years away and she's probably not even be eligible to even run at that point.
I think we're way ahead of schedule.
We're even talking about her.
Let's get through the midterms.
Yeah, I don't think she's anywhere.
How do you feel?
I don't think she's anywhere near qualified whatsoever.
Hey, player, let me talk here, bro.
I'll go down another button, bro.
I'll go down another fucking button.
That doesn't make sense what you're saying, though.
I don't think she's qualified to even consider running whatsoever.
And I don't think she's.
The president was with one trip with one percent, and the other one wasn't even a senator.
Listen, Liberty, oh, yeah, oh, is it okay?
All right, all right, go ahead.
Go ahead.
So, um, you're fancy to hear from you, too.
Exactly.
Listen, it's way too early to even suggest she's polling at 2%.
Let's she's fun.
She gets the, you know, you still have an asset.
The likelihood that she would become president in the next percentage.
I'll give her 10%.
That's high, by the way.
Just so you know, just the fact that you're saying 10%.
I'm high at 10%.
Ricardo's throwing 80 and he's reasonable.
What I'm saying to you is just the fact that you think in the next 40 years.
40 years.
I get that.
What I'm trying to tell you is it's a real conversation.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, it is real.
Yeah.
You understand?
It is.
Okay, so now let me give you the follow-up question.
That's where I've been trying to get into for this entire time.
Today is 2046.
Okay.
Today's 2046.
Your president is AOC.
What does America look like?
Go there.
By the way, 2046 is 25 years from now.
She is only 56 years old.
What does America look like?
Well, let me just establish what her life looks like first before we can go to America.
Number one, she's single.
She's a waitress.
She hasn't made any money.
She hasn't done anything in her career.
I just told you 25 years ago.
Okay, exactly.
So at that point, she would presumably be married, have some kids.
Potentially, her outlook on life would change.
Not everything is stagnant.
Things change.
She might develop her views.
The world might be a different place.
So give people a little credit to the fact that their perspectives might change.
You weren't always a capitalist.
You weren't always anti-a-Democrat.
You were reasonable at some point, I presume.
I'm not reasonable now.
I see more Ribby.
You're a little bit low.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
Is the argument of socialism reasonable?
Is the argument reasonable?
Is the argument reasonable or is the concept reasonable?
Whatever.
Any argument is reasonable.
No, no, having a debate is reasonable.
To establish what the fact is.
As a person who believes in, like, I can see a Democrat switching to independent.
Like John Stassel went from, hey, I'm the guy that's exposing all these businesses.
Finally, one day I'm like, what the hell am I doing?
I'm helping consumer affairs more than I am small business owners and I'm making fun of these guys and they're losing their businesses.
There's no way I'm going to do this.
I'm going to be a libertarian.
He flips.
But he went from a center-left, John F. Kennedy type of a Democrat to what?
A libertarian.
He didn't flip to be a Republican.
What is the likelihood of AOC changing that much philosophically the next 24 years?
Well, I'll tell you, if she has any chances of, to answer your question specifically, becoming the president for the masses, she better flip and I don't think you're, I don't think.
She's not going to win being that far left.
Wait, wait.
She's not.
Wait.
She's not going to win being that far left.
Correct.
Okay.
I have a whole different view on this, but Ricky, I'm going to go to you.
You still haven't answered my question for me.
No, it's not.
I asked you if 2045 AOC is the pres, 2046.
AOC is the president.
She's 55, 56 years old.
What does America look like?
I'll tell you, we'll have a lot of flipping debt.
Way more than we have now.
What else will America look like?
No, as far as I can see.
Well, they're going to come after Ricky's 40 guns.
But first of all, before I continue, to say, are you picking up Ricky's audio?
I want to make sure the mic is picking up his audio.
So to be, to share your point real quick, and then I'll go to PBD's question.
No, she's not going to change.
Maxine Waters hasn't changed.
Nazi Pelosi hasn't changed.
Bernie Sanders hasn't changed.
These people have not changed.
These people don't change because they have to follow a narrative.
Okay?
That's the only way they could win the votes because they have to follow the narrative.
By the way, she said that at the border, the crisis that we have at the border right now, even though it's worse than when we had it with Trump, she said that it had to do with climate change.
That's literally what she said.
So she's going to continue with her narrative because that's the only way she's going to continue to get voted in.
She needs to vote the victims need to keep voting her in.
But what do we look like as a country?
You have AOC as a president.
We're definitely going to have our debt's going to be through the roof.
What you said, Adam.
We definitely will not have any guns.
Definitely will not have any guns.
She's going to run out all the capitalists and all the business owners out of the country.
They'll end up in another country.
And the company, we're going to go into, it will be.
She stays around long enough.
These ideas stay wrong long enough.
And by the way, it's anybody, if you're listening to this and you think this cannot happen to America, you are naive.
The world has had seven world powers, Pat.
America is a seventh world power.
So Rome fell.
There was a one point that there was a saying that said that the sun never set on the Roman Empire.
Rome fell, Babylon fell.
Great Britain fell.
All these countries have fallen.
What goes up must come down.
So to believe and sit here and listen to us and say, oh, that'll never happen here, you are literally naive.
You did not pay attention to history, guys.
I never picked up a history book.
But yeah, we'd be destroyed as a country.
And there would be another America somewhere else because would we, though?
So let's go there.
Let's go there.
Let's go there and say she and if she wins, she's not going to be a one-term president.
She'll be a two-term president.
No, she'll be two-term.
Two-term.
But let's speculate.
This is all purely speculation.
What happens afterwards?
So does it push back so far that do we go back to being far right?
Where is America after AOC?
Can you recover even if you go forward?
That's what I'm asking.
That's a question.
I don't know if you could let go.
Let's look at history since, and I think that was a great point you made about the empires of civilization.
Every eight years, the pendulum swings.
It's a reason why you go from a Reagan to a Bush to a Clinton, and you go from a Clinton to a Bush, and you go from a Bush to a Obama, and you go from Obama to a Trump, and a Trump to a Biden.
It's the same old narrative that we've had even before Reagan.
You had a Jimmy Carter and you had a Gerald Ford and you had a Nixon and you had an LBJ.
It's the same old theme.
And every four years, every eight years, that's why a president runs on change.
Change.
Barack Obama ran on change.
Trump ran on change.
Biden ran on, they got to get the orange monster out of here.
We got to change things.
Every eight years, people run on change.
It's the most common theme ever when it comes to elections.
So God forbid an AOC becomes into power, you know, somebody who's that Ricky wholeheartedly believes in will come in and the whole country will rally around them and say, all right, we've had what happened.
Can you just turn me up a little bit?
Let me ask you a different question.
Here's a different question for you.
Here's a different question for you.
You ever been robbed at gunpoint?
I have not.
No.
Have you?
Yes.
Okay.
I had a gun pointed at me, not robbed, but yeah.
You had a gun pointed at you.
I've had a gun pointed at me too.
Yeah.
Okay.
By a cop.
Fine.
Okay.
So all three of us.
Now, do you think, what's the likelihood of you having somebody robbing you at gunpoint?
What's the likelihood?
Between now and the day you die.
For Ricky?
No, no, for you.
You're probably a lot higher than me.
Between now and your end of days, what's the likelihood of that happening?
Is my shirt open or no?
Give me any percentage.
1%.
1%.
Okay, fair enough.
Okay.
What's the likelihood of you getting into a terrible car accident?
25%.
You?
I don't think so.
I think it's it's my uber drivers 1%.
What does that mean?
Yeah, it's 1%.
2%.
What's the 2%?
What's the likelihood of a empire falling, America falling?
What's the likelihood of an empire falling?
Pretty damn high.
Yeah.
Really?
I'm asking you, what do you think?
20%.
Okay, you say what?
I'd say at least 40% to 50%.
Okay, I think it's inevitable.
It's just a matter of, is it 100 years from now, 500 years from now, 1,000?
I think it's going to, I think it's 100% if you ask me.
Yes, because a 5 billion infinity, I think it's just, it's eventually going to fall, right?
So what is really the responsibilities of the citizen of that era, of that era?
What is our responsibility?
The responsibility of the citizens of our era today, 2021, is to make sure this generation is not the one that falls.
Right.
Neither next or the following because we have what?
Kids, grandkids.
So our job is to keep that going for two more generations.
It's why we have to care about it.
Now, what causes an empire to fall?
What causes a great empire to fall?
What typically happens?
What are symptoms of a great empire falling?
A thinking that you can't fall.
That's exactly what he was saying, naivete.
Okay, so you're being too naive to think that'll never happen.
What else?
Well, I mean, historically, if you look at history, it's been, I'm sorry, world power has been overturned because of dictatorship.
So dictatorship to me is giving too much trust into one person.
One person leadership.
Fine, so I'm writing this down.
So number one is naivete.
Naivete.
Number two would be overthrowing a dictator, right?
Kind of like what they did in Iran, right?
They overthrew.
And by the way, what they tried to do with Fidel Casho, by the way, Fidel Castro just, Fidel Castro's brother, Raul Kasho, just stepped down.
But look.
The replacement is still a communist, but Castro just stepped down.
Castro just stepped down.
And then also to me would be definitely socialism.
Because communism will come in the form of socialism.
So rather than saying socialism or communism, what does that mean?
Is it all the wealth that empire created?
They start overspending the wealth.
Is that it?
Because that's historically, that's what's happening.
So you overspend, like, what happens?
A billionaire family dies, a rich family dies, the money goes to who?
The inheritance goes to the kids, and the kids never earn the money.
What do they do?
Do it on the phone effect.
Exactly.
And all of a sudden, we are essentially experiencing a bit of that with America.
men from the richest country in the world to now with the most debt.
No one has more debt than we have.
Let's just face it.
We also have the highest GDP to potentially reverse course.
Yeah, but we have today to, if you really break down the unpaid commitment to Social Security, Medicare, our national debt, $24 trillion, our debt is 50 times, no, let me put it, 25 times to 30 times more than our GDP.
Okay?
So that means you make $40,000 a year.
You have $1.2 million in credit card debt.
That's America today, if you want to put that in perspective.
Let me say that one more time.
America is making $40,000 a year, and it has a $1.2 million credit card.
You're not talking about what the GDP is versus the actual debt.
I think that's like at 100% or 10%.
Even if, no, it's not 100%.
GDP.
GDP is what?
$20 trillion?
What are you talking about?
$17 trillion?
No.
What's the GDP of the United States?
Oh, my gosh.
Can you pull up GDP of U.S.?
GDP of U.S. is you're thinking a different number.
You're not thinking GDP of U.S. 20 trillion pounds.
Okay, so say $20 trillion.
I just did.
Wait.
Say GDP is $20 trillion.
And what's our debt?
$25 trillion?
$20 trillion.
Go to collective unpaid debt.
Oh, that's a honest.
That's how you calculate your debt, Phil.
Fair enough.
That's what I was asking you to clarify it.
Yeah, if you calculate your budget.
You're talking about what we owe in Social Security and what we owe in Medicaid.
Our total unpaid on the website, go to the debt clock that we have.
Go to debt clock.
It's probably at $27 trillion.
Okay, check this out.
Let me show this to you.
$28 trillion.
National debt is $28.
Overnight, we lost an unlimited.
National debt is $28, but there's a number of total debt that we have.
Unfunded U.S. liabilities is what?
$162 trillion.
That's a lot of money.
We have to pay that money, right?
Let me explain to you.
Over time, though.
I'm not saying that's not...
But you have to pay that.
Correct.
You have to pay that.
Can a $40,000 a year person afford a $400,000 credit card?
No.
No.
Okay.
Do you understand how pathetic that is?
I'm right there with you.
That's a scary thing.
You're right there with it.
Okay, yeah.
All right.
So number three is what?
Overspending the amount of money that you've earned or the generation before you has earned.
So how do you want to word that?
You want to put a lack of fiscal responsibility?
Well, why don't we pull up what we discussed the other day based on the World Economic Forum stats that the United States was doing pretty good.
I think we were number 17 in the world or whatever, as far as economic freedom.
We did this.
That's economic freedom.
Okay, economic freedom.
And the one thing that we sucked at, 32%, was...
Was it regulation or what was it?
No, our fiscal year.
Exactly.
37%.
That's right.
So let's go through it.
Number one, naivete.
Number two is too much trust into one person.
Number three is what?
Lack of fiscal responsibility.
What else is it?
War.
Okay, what kind of war?
Any kind of war, nuclear war, bio.
Empire fallen.
Fine.
Let's put war.
Well, traditionally it wasn't nuclear.
What else we put?
That's war.
What else do you want to put?
What else is another reason why this happens?
Okay.
Invasion?
You want to put invasion?
That's war.
I have one I want to put in, but let me see what he's going to say.
Huh?
People get lazy.
I think it's counterpart of four, but let's put laziness, sluggard, right?
What I would add to it is a spirit of division within the nation, or a spirit of division within the nation.
What else is it?
Exactly.
What else is it?
I think level of comfort and not willing to seek pain or not willing to see.
That's kind of lazy.
It's the same thing.
So can we also put a lack of education in people are being overly entertained?
And how do you define that?
More entertainment than education.
So let's put entertainment over education.
And then the other one I was going to say is our morals drop.
We morally lose our values and principles because look, even something as basic as save your money, right?
They say that's a very morally values and principle conservative philosophy saving money, right?
So what's the eighth one?
Values and principles down the drain, right?
Yes.
We don't really care anymore what you're doing.
Oh, go ahead.
It's okay.
Oh, go ahead.
It's okay.
Oh, it's okay.
It's okay.
Everything's okay, right?
How much of this is happening today in America?
Naivete.
Where are we at with that?
Oh, my God.
Ridiculous.
Too much trust in one person.
Yes.
Okay.
Already happening.
How about lack?
That's been happening.
Lack of fiscal.
I actually don't think we're fully there where it's too much trust in one person.
I don't think people trust Biden.
I don't even think Democrats trust Biden.
No.
So we're not there.
It was Trump and Obama.
They're very similar because there was a lot of trust in Obama.
There was a lot of trust in Trump from the right.
There was zero trust in Trump from the left.
Zero.
So we've not gotten it.
We're not there yet.
That's collectively.
Where we're given one person too much power.
The good news with America is no one man has had too much power in America.
That's a very big benefit.
We have to understand.
That's the insurance policy.
Look at your friend Vladimir Putin.
He's got a lot of trust in him, bro.
That's exactly what we're going through.
Lack of fiscal responsibility.
I think that's a check because we don't have any of it today.
Fully agree.
So far, I got two of them.
War.
We don't have it right now.
Okay.
Yeah.
So five, lazy.
We have that right now.
We can't say we don't have that right now.
In addition to that, I would say fat and lazy.
I put fat as well.
People are dying from COVID because, not because they're...
87% were fat.
Some ridiculous percentage came back up.
Yeah, okay.
So six is a spirit of division.
I'm going to put a check.
100%.
We're absolutely divided today.
If you think about it.
You're not here on the PBD podcast, though.
We can easily have any kind of discourse and we'll still go have a shot at, you know, we'll have a good dinner afterwards.
Okay.
Entertainment over education.
Are we consuming more entertainment?
Yeah, that's correct.
Ridiculous.
How about the last one is we've lost our values and principles.
Has that happened yet?
We're not looking in the right direction.
I don't think we're there.
We're not there yet, but we're very much in that direction.
So then we're on the speech trading.
So then we got two here, values and principles, and no one man has had too much power.
And I got to add war as well.
Those three.
So the reason why I'm talking about this is sometimes, Adam, we're in a life insurance business.
Okay, let's face it, it's not the sexiest business.
When you tell somebody you're an insurance business, Ricky makes it sexy, though, baby.
He pops that dollar in the business.
That's because Ricky and Erica.
But when you think about it, it's not the sexiest business.
Matter of fact, it gets a lot of shots taken at it, right?
You get real estate is sexy.
Oh, my gosh, keys, house, all the.
Oh, such a sexy business to be part of.
Life is like, oh, my gosh, babe, close the door.
Don't answer the phone.
He just wants to sell us a life insurance policy.
Great.
Until people realize there's scientific research shown that 100% of people die.
Okay?
This is market research of thousands of years that 100% of people die.
Except for Enoch, and I think one other person was taken.
Everybody else has been.
This is Enoch.
It's a biblical reference here.
So 100% of people die.
Now, when it comes down to life insurance, guess how people are with life insurance?
Oh, my gosh, give me a flipping break.
And then I'm so glad I bought it.
I didn't think this was happening.
I'm not telling you, you know, the empire is going to fall.
All I'm saying is we need an insurance policy against it.
And the level of arrogance to not have it is what causes a lot of these great empires to fall.
And today, if we go into the, if you guys want to go into the Chauvin case next, we can go into what happened yesterday with Derek Chauvin.
Because these two kind of concern me the most.
We just covered AOC.
Now let's go to Chauvin.
If you want to go to page five to talk about what happened with Chauvin.
Okay, so page five.
Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin found guilty of murder or manslaughter in George Floyd's death, Business Insider Story.
Okay.
He was found guilty of second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and manslaughter in the death of George Floyd.
Floyd died on May 25th after Chauvin, a Minneapolis police officer at the time, knelt on his neck for nine minutes, eight minutes and 46 seconds, to be exact, during an arrest.
Chauvin faces up to 40 years in prison for second-degree murder, 25 years for third-degree, and 10 years for second-degree manslaughter because of Chauvin, because Chauvin was convicted of all the charges.
He will be sentenced on the top charge of second-degree murder.
Jurors deliberated for a total of nine hours and 45 minutes before the court announced they had a verdict.
Okay.
Then Tucker Carlson's reaction to Derek Schovin's conviction was to cast doubt on jurors who decided to murder him or murder George Floyd.
After the conclusion of Derek Chauvin murder trial, Tucker Carlson's reaction Tuesday night was a question.
The jury's motivation in reaching its guilty verdict.
A few hours earlier, a jury of five men and seven women returned to unanimous guilty verdict on all three counts against Chauvin and the death of George Floyd.
Carlson characterized the verdict not as impartial decision based on trial, but rather the jurors' way of saying, please don't hurt us.
It was part of a longer opening monologue suggesting that the jurors were spurred by fear of writing by people who have been angered by a verdict of not guilty.
Can we trust the way this decision was made? He asked.
So having said that, what are your thoughts on what took place the last 24 hours?
Adam, I'll go to you first and I'll come to you, Ricky.
Well, I think I agree with this decision.
Let's just start with the basics here.
I think the guy, Chauvin, put his knee on George Floyd's neck and murdered the man.
People want to say, well, he had drugs in his system, or well, you know, he wasn't a great father.
That's not a reason to fucking die.
Okay.
So anyone who has two eyeballs and a brain and a heart will realize, yeah, Chauvin definitely played a part.
Now, if you're part of Chauvin's defense or if you want to be the Tucker Carlson and you want to kind of play both sides, you can say, well, how much of a cause was it?
Was it definitely, but I'm just going to side with the jury here and say, yes, guilty homie, go to jail.
But bigger than this is, I think, something that the Democrats did in the election in 2020 was coin the phrase defund the police.
I personally think that's not a smart move.
I think we need more police or better trained police.
I think the slogan should be de-escalate the police, not defund the police, de-escalate the police.
Because everyone who has an interaction with the police these days, especially black people, that shit gets escalated so quick.
Even yesterday, a girl, I don't know what happened with that.
We could talk about that.
LeBron James did it, okay.
But like, why is everything with the police, you know, kill or be killed and kneeling on the neck and killing the guy or shooting person or someone's running away, you shoot them in the back.
Police, I think there was a lady on Bill Maher.
She was a journalist who actually in her 40s became a police officer and had to go through the training and basically commented on what police have to deal with.
She said they're asked to do too much.
She said they're asked to be social workers.
They're asked to be medics.
They're asked to be heroes and warriors and negotiators and everything.
They're doing that.
And all at the ripe age of 25 years old.
Any of those jobs is very hard to do.
Any of those jobs to do.
Whether you're a nurse, an EMT, a negotiator, a social worker, now you're going to throw on top of that a badge and a gun for someone who's fresh out of, you know, not college, but college age.
They're asked to do too much.
So you throw a badge and a gun on them and they get on a power trip.
We've all dealt with police who's been on a power trip.
So, I think, look, George Floyd at the end of the day was a martyr.
He was a symbol.
He was a lightning rod.
He wasn't a hero.
Okay.
He was a guy who had some issues in his life that happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and had a knee on his neck.
And it went viral because everybody's got a phone in their hands these days.
And people are saying, bro, you're killing him.
He's shouting out, I can't breathe.
He's calling for his mother.
Anyone who watched that, you'd have no heart to not sympathize with what he was going through, whether he was on drugs or not.
So, what Carlson is also looking to do, because you brought up Tucker Carlson, he's basically saying that whether you like this or not, Derek Chauvin was also a martyr.
Now, why was he a martyr?
Because let's say just for a second, hypothetically, that he actually didn't kill George Floyd.
Let's just say that for a second.
Let's just say for whatever reason, he didn't really kill him and have his knee on his neck.
He's a martyr because, do you know what would have happened in this country if he was actually found innocent of all charges?
Burn this motherfucker to the ground.
Okay.
How bad do you think it would have been?
Badder than you think.
Like, way worse.
Every major Rodney King LA.
Rodney King was in LA in one city.
This is a national thing.
Think about it.
In the middle of a freaking pandemic, everyone in the country, you know, BLM, I get it.
You know, people basically said, this is more important.
This is a reason for me to leave my house, take off my freaking mask, and get out there and riot.
And I would, you know, they say, you know, 99% of the people, the riots are marching was peaceful.
I get it.
The protests, I get it.
There were definitely some disgusting looting and stuff like that going on.
So in my opinion, George Floyd was not a hero, but he is a symbol of accountability.
And Derek Chauvin also is a martyr, whether you like that or not.
But I think my final point here is one thing for sure is de-escalate the police.
They have way too much power.
They're asked to do too much.
And they're not supposed to be doing that.
At the end of the day, they're supposed to, no one's above the law, including law enforcement officers.
They're supposed to protect the peace.
And a lot of times, and I get that 90% of cops, 99% of cops are good, but it's so tough to be a cop.
You say that, how hard is it to be a cop?
It's a cop today.
It's so hard to be a cop right now.
Be anything but a cop today.
But I don't think that's, I think that we can have a pause and reset moment and the police, because police, don't forget, people on trial at the trial also said, yeah, he murdered him.
Police said that.
Police said that.
So when you have police kind of ratting on your own, I think you know that you did something wrong.
Ricky, what are you thinking?
You know, Pat, I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm a little bit, I'm a little bit, I'm split on this.
I don't like to argue points just to argue them.
I don't like to be irrational.
I'm a very logical person when it comes down to things like this.
Here's a reality behind things.
During the.
Okay.
I grew up in the hood.
Okay.
Me and all of my friends have been arrested either once or multiple times, and we've had interactions with cops.
I'm going to tell you a quick story.
It's two in the morning.
I'm coming home from dinner.
Shout out to Palmira Samanio, who's been my childhood friend of mine, and she works with us right now within our team.
And we're going home.
Okay.
Well, she gets pulled over.
I'm not even driving.
She gets pulled over.
And they run her name.
Everything's good.
Well, the cop asks me, what's your name?
Keep in mind, I'm 19 years old.
I already had a record by this time.
Actually, I'm 19 or 20 years old.
They pull my name.
Another cop pulls up.
Right?
So he pulls my name, goes back into his car.
He says, wait here.
Actually, two more cops pull up because my name was pulled.
Okay.
This was 13, 14 years ago.
Then they said, get out of the car.
And there's three cops waiting outside.
Okay, cool.
Where are you going?
Where you're coming from on this.
Yeah, I get out of the car.
That's okay.
So here's a reality behind things, whether we like to admit it or not.
Okay.
Whenever they ran his name, they realized he's been in prison more than once, and he put a gun to the stomach of a pregnant woman while they were robbing.
So whenever you run somebody's name and you see what they're capable of, your natural instincts are to tighten up and to be a little bit more aggressive with the person because you know that they are naturally aggressive.
Yeah, I can't breathe.
Yeah, he cried for his mom.
And that's horrible to listen to as a human being, right?
And there's no way to excuse that.
Because at that point, your humanity has to come out and say, you know what?
Something's wrong here if this person's, you know, crying out that much.
You already got him in handcuffs.
Maybe chill a little bit.
Okay.
Maybe you got him.
You guys are just going to say surrounded.
He doesn't have a gun on him.
You got him.
Like, chill.
If this guy's crying out, chill.
But on the other hand, they had a different angle, which the news never put out.
Where Chavin, what's his name?
Chavin or whatever?
Chauvin had his knee on his back and not on his neck.
So we're looking at a viewpoint down where he's looking at the camera where we see a knee and we see the guy's back, but we don't see specifically where his knee is at, even though it looks like it's on his neck.
Well, the reason that we were thinking of quitting him is because they actually had his, he had his knee on his back, not on his neck.
Now, we had this discussion.
You're like, well, we don't know that.
Well, we don't know that he had it on his neck either.
That's the truth.
Now, is it unfortunate that he died?
Yes.
Is there any way to excuse that?
No.
Now that Chavin have anything to do with killing him, here's a reality.
You don't know that.
Neither do I.
We do know that he was high on fentanyl.
I'm very familiar with drugs because I grew up in a drug-infested neighborhood, which my city is one of the capital cities for the cartels in the United States.
That's where they're stationed.
A lot of them are at, and that's where they distribute from.
So we're very familiar with that.
I grew up around it.
We sold it.
We bought it.
We used it.
That's just a reality behind it.
Mary, very transparent.
I know what happens to your heart rate when you're on drugs.
It's not meant for you to be in a situation where you could be even more, your heart rate goes even more up because you're going to have a heart attack.
I've had friends overdose.
In my neighborhood, there were three brothers, which all three of them overdosed on cocaine, not on fentanyl.
Nobody was around them.
And by the way, that's one of Pat PD.
I got stories like that for days.
I have many of my close friends overdose on cocaine, which is nowhere near like fentanyl.
It's not even a quarter of it.
So when you're putting it, they just overdosed, right?
And so when you have fentanyl, which right now, as a matter of fact, when they're cooking this stuff, they put gloves on Pat.
They put gloves on, like the people that are cooking it, because it's that dangerous they literally wear suits, you know, biohazard suits when they're making it in Mexico in the, what are they called?
In the lab.
In the lab, okay?
In the kitchen.
In the kitchen.
So when you're consuming that shit and to think that the most dangerous drug in America right now had nothing to do with his death is simply insane.
You are naive.
You do not know how drugs work.
If you could overdose on cocaine, you could overdose on meth.
Fentanyl is by far, it's 10 times worse than both of those drugs combined.
So to think that that didn't play a role, it's just ridiculous.
Now, is it okay?
No.
I'm just split on it.
I'm not going to take one side or the other.
Anything could have happened.
Anything could have happened.
Do you trust the justice system?
No.
Hell no.
No.
You don't trust the justice system?
No.
No way.
So let me ask you, what do you trust more?
Politicians or the justice system?
If I had to choose between both, maybe the justice system, but not politicians.
Because let me tell you why, though.
Because if I have the money to hire a lawyer, a lawyer's going to get me out of it.
Okay.
So I can't buy a, you can't buy a political system.
Talking about yesterday, one of your lawyers in Australia, who, you know, he says every kind of man, they're all criminals, they're all, you know, all this other stuff.
But if they got the money, I can help them out.
Right.
Okay.
So you trust the justice system more than you trust politicians.
Yes.
On both sides, by the way.
Okay.
How much do you think?
How much do you think these jurors made the decision based on facts and what happened?
And how much do you think the decision was based on?
Pat, when the president is calling you, telling you we hope that you make the right decision and Maxine Waters is calling they don't want to be the cause of riots all over the country.
They weren't the president wasn't calling the jurors, bro.
I mean, if you if you believe in impartial jury, then who called them?
Nobody's calling the jury.
Nobody called the jurors.
Nobody asked the jurors to make the right decision.
Nobody did?
Are you sure?
I would hope not.
Would you like to pull it up?
Pull it up.
Sure.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I think Biden's calling all the jurors.
Can we pull up?
Go for it.
Tell Kyle.
Did you pull up where Biden asked the jurors to make the right decision?
Are you serious?
Are you talking about a public speech, bro?
What are you talking about?
Are you talking about a public speech?
Are you serious right now?
I can't believe that.
If you actually show me a fucking public speech right now, I'm going to get very public for you to get away from it.
Did he call up?
Are you called up the jurors?
What are you saying right now?
Biden treads lightly in comments.
He treads lightly on comments.
Come on, Rick.
Come on, tread lightly.
There's no lightning with Biden.
You guys are an idiot, bro.
Chavin trial is jury deliberates.
President Joe Biden waited carefully into discussion about murder trial.
Come on, Ricky.
Hold on, bro.
Derek Chauvin, Dave Chavin, attorneys, right?
So he's talking about hoping they give the right verdict.
Also, when you say this public, he's not going to weigh on a juror that's a nobody compared to the president of the United States of America, which they know will ruin your job.
You're reaching here.
I'm reaching.
Yeah, you are.
Pat, what do you think?
What do you think about this?
Yeah, so but here's what I'm asking.
But first of all, Maxine Waters said, what would her comments?
If the trials doesn't go the way it's supposed to be, we need to be confrontational at the highest level.
Two US guards were shot that day.
Yeah.
Confrontational.
So here's the thing.
As a juror, do you want to be part of that, Pat?
Do you want to be part of the jurors?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
You're not allowed to listen to the news.
You're not allowed to be following this kind of stuff.
That's kind of the whole part of it.
By the way, I want everybody, listeners, to realize.
I'm not speculating that a phone call was made to anybody.
I'm not speculating.
I know I've interviewed a lot of mobsters, and the mobsters know how to get a hold of the jurors.
Okay, if mobsters know how to get a hold of jurors, I promise you politicians know how to get a hold of jurors.
So if a Sammy Gravano knows how to get a juror to help out God, he never, you know, other people can do the same.
But let's set that aside.
I don't even want to go in that direction.
All I'm asking is, you're one of the 12.
You're one of, you know, you're sitting in with the jurors.
Yes.
You're asking the group.
Doors closed nine hours and something.
What is it?
Nine hours and 45 minutes, whatever the timeline was, right?
They're sitting there making the decision, right?
You're sitting there.
Is anyone asking, what the hell is going to happen to America if we let this guy go?
100%.
You think someone asked it in that nine hours?
Yes.
And what do you think?
you think somebody said, oh, it's going to be crazy?
Yes.
So do you think it was one of those things where it is...
They don't want to be a part of that.
Do you think it's one of those things where one person's life is less important than us having rights around the world?
Is that the right way of thinking?
Okay.
So.
I think it is.
Okay.
You think it is?
How?
Okay.
So tell me why.
If it was your life, would you want that?
You want me to sacrifice you when you didn't do nothing wrong?
If I'm, if, number one, I think the jury actually.
He would be a Roman in the days of Jesus.
You wouldn't want to crucify Jesus just for the hell of it.
You'd be that person.
You're out of control, bro.
I'm just telling you, bro.
Out of control.
I can see you in Roman uniform killing Jesus.
You're a Roman, bro.
Go.
Go with your business.
Judas is cousin.
So do you think the conversation was brought up?
Okay, listen.
Let's just relax for a second.
I think the jury actually sat there.
It's very easy to be like, oh, I think this, bro, and I think this, bro, bro.
And this is what I think, bro.
And bro, I actually think that they actually sat there and listened to all the experts that were called in for days and days and days and weeks.
And when an expert says yes, if someone has a knee on your neck and this is what happens to the heart and the heart and the palpitations, you gotta understand the centrifugal force.
And they actually sit there and listen to the science for days.
I think they say how much of the decision?
They had a video where he had his knee on his back.
They watched that too, bro.
I don't know where Ricky gets his money.
What are you talking about?
How much of the decision?
How much of the decision you think was justice?
How much of the decision was America is going to be so flipping divided, it's going to be insane?
Okay.
I think that's what I think.
I think the large percentage of it was actual the facts of the case.
I do think so you're putting it more there.
Okay.
So beyond.
Okay.
I also think that there was an emotional component to saying, you know what?
Don't forget, they all have to agree.
I mean, if one dissents, then the whole thing is a hung jury.
So I think there's probably, like we talked about, you know, logic and emotion.
I think there's someone who's thinking, you know what?
I don't know, but I'm not, you know what?
Sacrifice the sacrificial lamb, Chauvin.
I'm not trying to see America burn.
I'm sure people think like that.
And you know what?
I'm okay with it in this case.
Sorry.
Call me the Judas, whatever you want.
I don't want to see America burn because this scumbag Chauvin maybe or maybe not had his knee on his back versus his neck.
Also, forget about innocent until proven guilty.
And then without reasonable doubt, right?
I wasn't a juror.
I wasn't a juror.
So I'm just saying to me, I'd rather this guy be sacrificed than every fucking major city in America.
I think, first of all, on that specific topic of, listen, if we can avoid this from happening, let's find this guy guilty to prevent all the rights from happening.
That's catastrophic.
You can also find him guilty on one charge.
They don't have to go all straight.
So clearly that shows that he was guilty.
I get that.
But if that's the motivation, the fear, this is exactly where I'm going to the following, which was what?
Naivete, too much trust in one person, lack of fiscal responsibility, a war, laziness, what was the other one?
A entertainment education, a spirit of division, and the last one's values and principles, right?
This kind of stuff leads to the kind of war that we definitely don't want to have in America, which is what?
The worst kind of war.
Not only a race war, a civil war.
It is absolutely ludicrous to see this going to that direction because just yesterday, we all know what happened.
By the way, this is Nancy Pelosi's comments about the event.
She said, Nancy Pelosi under fire for saying George Floyd sacrificed himself for justice.
That's another Newsweek story.
Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi was criticized on social media Tuesday after she thanked George Full for sacrificing his life for justice.
Pelosi said, Thank you, George Floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice, for being there to call out to your mom.
How heartbreaking was that call out to your mom, I can't breathe.
But because of your because of you and because of thousands, millions of people around the world who come out of justice, your name will be synonymous with justice.
Pelosis was quickly denounced for her remarks, with many users pointing out that Floyd did not voluntarily give up his life for justice.
Nancy Pelosi just said, Thank you, George Floyd, for sacrificing that.
And this is a nutshell: everything that's wrong with Fox woke liberalism, conservative talk, Fole woke liberalism, conservative talk shows.
Dan O'Donnell tweeted.
So she gives these thoughts, right, on what it is.
Was he Jesus?
Well, that's kind of what she's unbelievable.
Yeah, to make a comment like that.
Yeah, I think that's absurd.
Okay, so that's absurd.
Now, that leads to the event that happened yesterday.
Before we move on to the next topic, let's get our audience involved.
Why don't we do a poll or you do the thumbs up, thumbs down?
Ask them what they think.
Should he be guilty?
I mean, how do you, I don't know how you want to pose the question with the thumbs up, thumb down.
So I'm just asking you to do it.
But did you agree with the verdict of what happened?
If yes, thumbs up.
Did you not agree with the verdict of what happened thumbs down?
And I'm talking specifically, smash the thumbs up or the thumbs down.
Right now, we're at 452 to 3 is what the ratios are.
452 to 3.
I don't know how you see these.
Yeah, I'll see these things myself because, okay, so now 452 to 3, it just went up.
10 to 1 people say they agree with the verdict.
Yeah.
Our audience is reasonable.
They agree with the verdict.
Unlike some other friends.
No, Hold on.
I'm not talking about you.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
I'll lose a button here.
Hold on.
No, no, hold on.
Hold on.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Am I being unreasonable or I'm just stating the fact that there could be more evidence to it?
You're not.
You're not.
No, no, no.
I'm being honest.
You're not being unreasonable.
I'm blaming the adult.
You actually played both sides on that.
Because I said that I'm divided on it because if the reality is, if there's evidence that his foot was not on the neck or his knee was not on the neck, then what are you going to do about that?
Just to your point, do you think his knee on his back is any better than his neck?
Of course, 100 times better, bro.
If you're on the ground and someone's pushing on your back and your chest is against the curb and you also can't breathe.
Like the guy couldn't breathe.
No, no.
Whether it was on his neck, whether it was on his throat, he couldn't breathe.
That's where I agree with you because when he's saying I can't breathe, you got to really look into that.
Yes.
You already got him surrounded.
Look, it's the same thing that happened with Eric Gray.
I agree with what happened with the guys with the sickness.
I was like, selling cigarettes.
That's disgusting.
Yes.
Pat, if you don't mind.
Sam, do we have that?
Do we got that ready?
Pat, do you mind if I give our friend before we continue on?
I got something out there.
Absolutely.
You got to pay your bet.
Sam, so I got to.
What do we got here, bro?
I told him, I asked him if I could give him a down payment, right?
On the $1,000 that I owe you.
So I got $300 worth of quarters.
This is my first down payment to you, sir.
And the reason I can't give you the other $700 right now is because your present that you voted for is going to tax me highly.
So I have to tax you as well.
So that being said, I have $300 worth of quarters.
I believe in the tax system the way you do it.
That's laundry for life.
This is $300 worth of quarters.
I'd like to count it out and stack it.
We will do that for you.
How am I going to trust you?
I just want you to go straight to the casino.
You can use it however you'd like.
Thank you.
And it's currency.
I thought it was going to be pennies.
They got his quarter.
Because if it was pennies, you would have been in trouble right now getting it.
So, but let me tell you what you can do.
You can take this onto Food Max.
They have a coin machine where actually we'll convert this into dollars.
Okay.
Okay.
And then after I do my taxes, we can figure out how I can do the other $700 for you.
Sounds like a plan?
But I got a down payment.
Yes, sure.
I asked you.
By the way, at dinner, I asked you, can I give you a down payment?
Bro, shout out to Mario and Sam for doing the unbelievable.
But my question to you is: last night I asked you, can I give you a down payment?
And you said yes.
So this is my down payment.
We're talking about somebody who makes probably a half a million dollars a year.
A lot more than that.
Not more.
He lost a bet legitimately.
Legitimately.
He lost a bet.
He's been ducking me for a good four months.
I've been ducked.
Pat paid day off.
I've been ducking you.
Ricardo, quote unquote, doesn't have a credit card, doesn't have cash.
Hold on, hold on.
Only travels with 200 bucks.
I've been ducking you.
I haven't seen you.
He hasn't seen it.
Here's my first down there.
He doesn't have Venmo.
He doesn't have cash.
And by the way, basically, he makes this much money.
He can't give me $1,000.
Brother, listen.
I've paid a lot of people.
I've paid debt in tens of thousands.
You were there when I gave Marvin Delvaya $10,000 because I lost a bet.
I know how to pay my bets.
But I asked you specifically if I could give you a down payment.
But you said yes.
Here's my down payment.
I've been asking you for four months.
Hey, what is it?
Yes, he said I could give him a down payment.
You guys got to figure out this issue.
This is between the two of you guys.
You got your quarters to go count.
People.
I'm going to charge you 10% interest every day on the remaining $700, okay?
So that's $70 a day.
Let's continue.
Let's continue.
Go back to this.
Okay, fantastic.
Let's leave that over here.
Let's go to what happened.
No, no, no, that's not that.
Let's look at what happened in Ohio.
Let's look at the Ohio story.
Kai, if you want to bring that up.
Ohio police kill black teenage girls seen threatening others with knife.
This is a Reuters story.
Police in Columbus, Ohio, on Tuesday fatally shot a black teenage girl they confronted as she lunged at two people with a knife, as seen in a police video footage of the counter.
Authorities said authorities described a teenager who was fatally shot at 15 years old as 15 years old, but family members have identified her, Makia Bryan, age 16.
The police officer who opened fire was not identified, but appears from the video to be white.
The interim Columbus police chief, Michael Woods, said the officer would be taken off the street pending an investigation releasing a police body camera video of Tuesday's shooting.
Hours later, Woods said officers involved were responding to a 911 emergency call from someone who reported an attempted stabbing at a home on the city's south side southeast side.
If you have the video to just show this, go ahead, Kai.
Just to kind of.
If you can flip the camera so we can stop it, if you can flip the screen, for the screen to be bigger than us and when we're ready, go right ahead.
Go ahead, buddy.
Wow.
Stop the video?
Okay.
She wasn't threatening.
She was getting ready to stab that girl.
That was not a threat.
Can you go back to exactly right before?
There's pictures of it, Pat.
Okay, go back and pull up the pictures to see if there's pictures of this.
Yeah, there's pictures of it.
Teenage girl.
That was far further than a threat.
That's for damn sure.
Go to images.
okay so that's the second one go to the second one there's a knife click on it again that's cbs news There's a knife right there.
What a position to be in as a cop, that happening right in front of you.
So say that again, especially as you're pulling up like you're just getting for it to escalate that quickly.
And how old is a cop?
20 uh 20, some years old?
How old was a cop?
A younger child, okay.
So what do you think when he sees this?
What's the first thing you think about when he sees this?
He saved a young black girl's life.
That's what he did.
She was that.
That's a look how big that girl is, that she goes she's gonna stab with force.
And the other girl's skinny.
She's gonna stab her with force.
That's not slashing, she's going straight for a direct hit.
And look how big that knife is.
Pat, what is that?
Six, seven inches.
Maybe we can't see it, we don't want to speculate, but it's a good six inches.
Look at her size knife.
Look at, look at her grip uh, on it.
It's a six, probably five to six inches.
That's gonna kill this girl.
I mean, that's that's the cop did what he was supposed to do.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just want to go back to my initial point, de-escalate the police.
He just ran up.
He saw something going down?
How many, how many shots did he fire?
If we can see that?
I, I saw, I heard at least three or four shots.
If you saw, If, bro, if we're looking at this through a camera, we can see the knife.
Imagine what he can see live.
He's watching that knife.
It's so obvious.
I don't think anything is obvious at this point because I think the facts need to play out.
Clearly, she has a knife.
You need more facts than that?
That's crazy.
What if it was your daughter?
Is that a butter knife?
Is that a machete?
Because I don't know what that is.
Okay, I'll put you this way: what if that was your daughter on the other side of the knife?
Would you want to care to see if it was a butter knife?
It was a fake knife.
Would you care?
Here's the question: if it was my daughter, I'm not her.
I'm not picking sides here.
I have questions.
I don't have answers.
I don't have solutions here.
I've got a lot of freaking questions.
Why does the cop need to roll up and just bang, bang, bang, take someone's life?
That's exactly what he did.
What are you doing?
The cop rolled up.
The girl fell.
Go back to the video at the beginning.
Go back to the video at the beginning.
This is just a question I go back like original when he comes in.
Go all the way to the beginning.
Just press play from the beginning.
He's not running out of his card.
I'm going to slow it down.
Yeah.
Puts speed, put 0.5.
Yeah, 0.5.
Yeah, there you go.
He comes out.
He has no idea.
Everything looks peaceful so far.
The girl is standing there in the pink.
Okay.
Somebody falls down.
Then he draws his gun.
Oh, oh, I got it.
So got it.
So popping up.
That's a cop right there, by the way.
Yeah.
Erdie in the middle who has not drawn his gun.
Okay?
So that cop's going to have a perspective.
Yeah, but here's the in that situation, you have one of two choices.
If you don't shoot somebody who's about to kill another, stab another person right in front of you, then you allowed somebody to be stabbed.
It is a very technical situation here on what to do.
You might know the answer to this.
What's that?
Why can't you shoot her in the leg or in the arm or in the ass?
Why do you need to take someone's leg?
Hold on, hold on.
They actually did a study, and it's funny that you say that because I was watching the study yesterday, last night in my hotel.
Cops are not, they're not taught to shoot.
Here's the logical side behind it.
He says, We don't teach to shoot the leg or the arm because it's such a small target that's moving.
If that cop misses, that bullet goes past the plastic person and it can kill somebody else that has nothing to do with the innocent.
So they say we teach them to shoot to the biggest body mass because the person typically is getting shot is in the action of committing a crime.
If we go for the leg or the arm, okay, and I'm moving.
He says it was interesting with the cops.
He says, people can't even hit targets that are still at a gun range, let alone somebody that's moving around.
You shoot towards the leg.
That bullet ricochets and it hits an innocent person.
Now you're looking at shooting somebody that's innocent.
They have to go to the biggest body mass to make sure that those bullets do not go past everybody else.
That's a reasonable explanation.
That makes sense.
But go to the tweet.
Go to the tweet of what Newsome.
What Newsome, not Governor Newsome.
There's a tweet that let me see if this.
Yeah.
So Brie Newsome said teenagers have been having a lot of people.
Who's Brie Newsome, by the way?
Huh?
Who's Brie Newsome?
Brie Newsome.
She's an advocate for bullying.
Don't click on it because if you do, you're going to lose a tweet.
Teenagers have been having fights, including fights involving knives for eons.
We do not need police to address these situations by showing up to the scene and using a weapon against one of the teenagers.
Y'all need help.
I mean, that's sincerely.
Unbelievable.
Go click on it to find out.
The fact that she has 1,200 retweets is insane.
It's not even that.
She's got more than 1,200 retweets.
This is a person that's got 467,000 followers.
Artist, grassroots organizer, free black woman scale 30-feet flagpole.
Removed South Carolina Confederate flag in protest in June 27, 2015.
So she's proud of that.
So that's kind of the place where we are right now.
So cops now don't get involved in knife fights.
Okay.
What are you supposed to do?
This is one of the reasons why I called Bernard Carrick this morning.
Him and I were having a conversation this morning.
Bernard Carrick was a former head of the NYPD for years.
He was the guy that helped clean New York with Mayor Giuliani back in the days when New York had the whole situation going on.
He was the guy.
It was not easy being Bernard.
You had to be just as strong of a personality to go up against the mob and go up against everybody else.
And Carrick was pretty much that scary of a guy in the streets.
Where if he came out, people knew something was going on.
And he sees this.
He says, What are you doing in a situation like that?
So let's talk solutions.
Let's talk solutions.
Somebody here commented something very interesting.
Somebody commented here.
Let me read it to you and gave 20 bucks.
Let me see if I can find this guy.
Oh, man.
I wish I would.
I thought I took a screenshot.
Somebody said, Okay, here we go.
All of the suited and booted, 20 bucks.
All of this attention on police has an endgame of RoboCop coming in and policing the public.
This would protect the assets of the rich, much more protection without human emotion, also much more submission.
Think about that right there.
Okay.
So every time a cop comes, LeBron sends a tweet, and LeBron says what he puts up a tweet that he takes down momentarily because the backlash he got.
He puts this saying, You're next, okay?
And obviously, time clock accountability.
He takes it down.
Then he has his next tweet.
If you want to read out his next tweet, I don't know if you have it or not.
If you don't have it, maybe he removed it or not.
But he has a couple of he got so much heat for this yesterday.
And he says, I'm so damn tired of seeing black people killed by police.
I took the tweet down because it's being used to create more hate.
This isn't about one officer.
It's about the entire system.
And they always use our words to create more racism.
I'm so desperate for more accountability, right?
What an idiot.
Yeah.
So that's LeBron James on what you got.
So how do you solve this?
How do you solve this?
You know, how do you prevent emotions from taking place?
What do you do?
Like, you see that one movie where everything is, you know, perpetuating like right before crime is about to happen.
Minority.
Minority report where they catch you.
You know, is the solution having billions of cameras on the streets, which we already have, but I'm talking like the government having billions of cameras on the streets.
Is the solution more surveillance?
So what are you really asking for, right?
The same person that said, you know, black teenage black kids have been using knives for the long eons, you know, leave them alone, let them handle in the streets themselves.
If you go back and read what she says, she's for getting rid of cops and letting communities take it take care of themselves without cops being involved.
Is that really the right solution?
Is technology the solution?
Is more control the solution?
Is more cameras the solution?
We were reading a book this month called The Speed of Trust, and I had my executives reading this book.
And in the book, it talked about what TSA did.
When TSA came out in 2001, November of 2001, right after 9-11 happened under President Bush administration, they came out with TSA.
They said, what ended up happening is it used to take 30 minutes for you to get on your flight when you would go to the airport.
Now it's 90 minutes.
Because we don't trust more, it's now 90 minutes to go on a flight than it used to be 30 minutes of what people used to do.
So they took 60 minutes away from people that are busy trying to be productive, trying to work, trying to get to their places, simply because we don't trust.
So if we go in the direction of trying to find a solution for this, it's going to have to come up at a price of giving up something.
Is that giving up your freedom of being monitored and watched non-stop?
Is it more camera?
Is it, you know, RoboCop type of deal?
Is it, are we going and having, you know, these, what do you call it, robot type of the whole robo cop things being placed everywhere that's seeing what's happening?
What becomes a solution for something like this?
I don't know what the solution is, but something that just kind of crossed my mind.
I don't think we need more cameras, more surveillance.
I don't think we need more Big Brother.
I don't think we need a George Orwellian 1984 type situation.
That's not what I think.
But getting back to LeBron thing and the accountability, I wonder, and this is something I probably never even said out loud, and I just kind of thought about it.
But imagine if that girl would have actually stabbed the other girl, black on black.
That would have been a black on, like if she would have died, that would have been a black on black crime, right?
Would have LeBron said anything?
No.
Would anyone have said anything?
No.
Would, I mean, black people get killed by other black people in Chicago all the time.
And I get that that's a major concern.
People do talk about it.
Anyone who says, well, they don't talk about it, they're probably wrong because people do talk about it a lot.
Who talks about it?
It's a thing that people talk about.
Who talks about it?
Everyone.
No, everyone.
No, absolutely not.
So nobody talks about it?
Not CNN, not MSNBC.
Everyone has talked about Chicago.
Everyone has to be aware of that.
Let me ask you a question.
For every one minute that they've spent talking about that black on black crime, how much have they spent talking about white on black crime?
Okay, cool.
That's where I was going with this.
So I wasn't even talking about white.
I was talking about police on what's the ratio, 10 to 1, 20 to 1, 40 to 1?
Because remember, one of the seven reasons for falling of an empire is to create a division amongst the country?
And that's the media.
I can go on the media, rail about the media and the division that they're causing for the rest of the show.
But ultimately, my point is this: those were two black people fighting.
It could have been two white people.
It could have been two Hispanics, could have been two Jews, whatever.
But that's the facts of this case.
Those were two black people fighting.
If the black, one bigger black girl killed the skinnier of the black girl, where would have been the outrage?
Where would have been the point?
That's ultimately my point.
That's why I said I'm probably saying something that people would have been like, whoa, what the fuck's he talking about?
So that's point number six.
The reality is, what's worse?
What's worse?
A civilian killing another civilian, black on black crime in this particular instance, or a cop rolling up, quote unquote, doing his job and killing the person, the perpetrator in this case, who has a weapon in her hand.
And he already says, back up, back up, back up.
So one way or another, someone was going to die.
What's worse?
The one girl killing another girl or the cop killing socially?
I'm just saying that that's the reality of the situation.
No, there's different angles.
Socially or justice or justice-wise?
I'm posing the question, but the reality is she had a knife and she would have stabbed him.
No, no, that's not, is it justice or is it or is it socially?
Is it justice or is it socially?
Is it just if you're talking about justice, what's worse?
Or is it socially what's worse?
Because we're obviously seeing what socially is the worst thing.
They're calling him a racist and that now.
See, I don't think he's a look.
I don't think he's a racist.
He just rolled up and he saw some.
I don't know this person.
Nobody knows him.
The facts will kind of play out.
I think he was put in a difficult situation.
Like I talked about initially, cops who are 25 years old.
They got looked pretty young.
He might be 30.
I don't know.
They're asked to de-escalate situations.
They're asked to be negotiators.
They're asked to be paramedics and EMTs.
And they're asked to do so much.
And in the middle of all that, and you gave a great explanation of why he had to shoot for the body and kill somebody.
They're asked to do so much.
So you can't just say, oh, he's racist.
He's white.
He killed her.
He's racist.
No, she had a knife in her hand, bro.
So I'm just posing the question, like, someone was going to likely die.
Like, if he would have stabbed, if she would have stabbed the other girl, it would have just been another YouTube.
It would have been another story in the newspaper, no big deal.
Because a cop did it.
No one would have done it.
It's the front page.
So, so, okay.
So this is now leading me to one area of the freedom that we have in America that's become a problematic lately.
By the way, somebody said a couple things here.
I want to read a couple of the comments.
One of them, you can read it on your own by Bobby Collins.
He's not happy what you said.
He says, I love you, but you're, how can you question this clear video, but the George Floyd was a clear day, clear as day.
Bobby Collins is calling you out.
Calling you out.
Saying clear as day what?
Clear as day video what happened with George Floyd.
And another person said.
No, no, hold on, hold on.
The video that was shown by the media or the actual videos by the jury?
Read this comment right here.
Adam is a piece of, I love you, but you're, how can you question this clear video, but the Floyd was clear as day?
I don't, I don't, I don't understand.
Oh, yeah, I get what you're saying.
He's saying, but, but here's the way who won the ways of the video.
It's three to one.
Okay, I'm not.
I'm not a one-five percent.
I'm not a fan.
6633.
I'm not a fan.
Under two-thirds.
Is what?
A third say they disagree with the verdict.
Two-thirds agree with the verdict.
Okay.
Well, from this audience, two-thirds agree.
Hey, hold on.
Hold on.
Yeah, but hold on.
You can, and this is the reality behind things.
Just because a lot of the mass agree doesn't mean it's right.
Okay, so maybe, remember this.
The majority of people are waiting for the body.
Why do you want to defend them?
I'm not going to listen to me.
Listen to me.
Most people wake up in the morning, they make their coffee, they make their breakfast, they go to work, they send their kids to school, they come back, and they have after-school activities.
The majority is most people, both on the right and the left, are not sitting there doing their homework on this.
All they watch was what's shown to them on the media.
That's the reality behind things.
So you can still be, you can say, you can be on one side of the political spectrum and still believe the narrative that was pushed.
I'm not defending anything.
I'm talking about in general.
You can believe the narrative that was pushed.
Because right now, there's a narrative being pushed by LeBron James and this other lady, whatever her name is, that that was a little innocent girl that is mostly a peacemaker, like her mom said, stabbing another girl.
And if you don't look into it, you'll believe that.
So I don't care if the masses believe something.
The reality is there is another video with another angle with the man having me on his back.
That is reality that you don't like it because Mark Toyne said it's easier to fool people than to make them believe than to it is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.
Okay?
That's what Mark Toyne says is the fact that you can still be on one side of the political spectrum and believe what was pushed on you on both sides because you don't know the truth.
So the truth is you don't know the truth.
So to think that something's clear as day, no bullshit.
No, it's not clear because you don't know the other side because you haven't done your homework on it.
So now on this side, what the gentleman was trying to tell you was on one side, you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, he killed him.
You see a knife and somebody's being stabbed and you're like, well, I don't know.
Why did you get off and bang, bang?
Like, that doesn't, I understand where he's coming from.
Like, you know, I don't know what this guy's point was.
His point is that on what is clear as day, this was not clear as day.
My point is that when you're when you're clear and you're set stone that it was a girl right here almost getting stabbed and you're not clear about it.
Bro, I just said, I don't, like, this is the video.
She has a knife in her hand.
That's all we know.
Oh, that's all.
So it's not going in a certain direction.
It's not aiming at somebody, right?
Yes, Ricky.
Okay.
Aimed at the other girl.
I just basically said someone was going to get murdered, did they win?
No, no, you didn't.
Ricky.
Stop it.
Stop it.
I don't know your point here.
Let me read this other one.
Somebody said, why don't you just tase them instead of shooting them?
Jimmy Kalut said, why don't you tase her instead of shooting her?
Because it goes back, Pat.
Yeah, you have a protocol.
Right, but you have a little girl.
What if she was on the other side of the knife?
Would you want to tase her or a gun?
No, there's no question about it.
That's what I'm saying.
It's easy to take.
Absolutely.
I'm just reading the comment.
Drew Mega just said, as a son of two Jamaican parents, I think the cop was justifiable.
He saved her by milliseconds.
He's more of a hero than a villain.
He's not a villain at all.
Yeah, Mark Marine, Mark Marine, Mark the Mariner, cop shoots, girl attacking dies, girl saved, cop doesn't shoot, girl dies, attacker dies, other people possibly injured or killed, cop possibly dies or is injured by a deadly weapon.
You know who the most important perspective on this entire thing is?
What's that?
Who's the most important perspective that we want to hear of?
Out of this entire situation?
No.
Who?
The girl that's about to get stabbed.
I'd love to hear what she has to say.
That would not be a bad idea, actually.
I would love to hear what she has to say.
See if Alan can get a hold of her.
Okay.
See if Alan gets a story.
That's the person we need to hear from.
If she says, no, I was about to get killed.
The cop saved my life.
That's an interesting perspective.
But if by chance she says, no, the cop came in.
He didn't have to kill her.
She was my friend.
We had a little fight.
That's a totally different perspective.
Damn, that's crazy.
I've had little fights with my friends.
Nothing to try to stop me.
That's crazy.
Okay, well, I mean.
Good.
Congratulations on having friends that aren't stabbed.
I don't know what happened there.
The point is, the one perspective we do need to hear from is the girl who's after watching the video.
It's funny, you don't need a perspective with Chavano, but now you need a perspective here.
I don't know why you're so focused on defending Shao.
I'm not defending anybody.
You're basically saying, well, his knee was on his back, so it's okay.
Well, his knee is still on his goddamn back.
That makes a huge difference for his knee on his neck.
Not when you're pinned on the ground and against the curb.
You're acting like, well, his knee was on his back, so no big deal.
Ricky, that doesn't do it for me.
Ricky did say if you got a guy in handcuffs, why are you putting a knee on the guy?
He already said that earlier.
You're basically saying, okay, you did say that, but you're also saying his knee was on his back.
It's not a big deal.
You're super adamant about it.
All I'm saying is you're super adamant about one, but you're not adamant about the other.
Why do you need a perspective?
If somebody's getting stabbed, I don't need a perspective.
I'm going to shoot the person that's possibly going to be harming the other person.
There's no perspective to look at.
The girl has a knife, and she's in full, she held back.
She's in full swing to stab this girl.
There is no perspective, bro.
That's all there is to it.
So she should have died.
Well, you're going to kill somebody else.
And that was my point.
If someone was going to kill him.
No, that was not your point.
I did say that.
It's a black on black crime point.
Yes.
That's okay.
You're going to be all right?
Yeah, I need $700 more in quarters immediately.
All right.
So this is.
I'll get taxed on it, so you will too.
This is a very interesting thing because the part that's a bit confusing is the following, Adam.
When sometimes you hear when somebody uses a gun to protect somebody, that guy is a, you know, the cop is doing the, he's the criminal, right?
What he's doing.
But if on the other side, if you hear on the somebody that kills a black that kills others, sometimes you hear, oh, it's mental issues.
You know, he had mental problems.
He had gun.
It's the gun's fault.
Accountability is very contradictory today.
It's very contradictory.
It's only what story can be used to validate your story to spin, to divide even more.
And the part where I was going with this was the following.
Here's where I was going with this.
Before you guys had your discourse.
You know, the freedoms that America gives are what?
Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of enterprise, freedom of all this stuff.
Second order.
Religion, guys.
Don't forget that.
Religion.
That's right.
It's your top one.
So freedom of religion, all these things that it does, right?
There is an issue with press for me.
There isn't an issue with press for me.
You have an issue with freedom for me, there's an issue with press.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me give you an idea of what I mean by there's an issue with press.
Who is the press accountable to?
Nobody.
And I know it's the people.
Obviously, it's the people that hold the press accountable, right?
You can't say this, you can't say that, you can't say this.
But let me tell you, man, right now, the press doesn't have a lot of pushback.
The press doesn't have a lot of accountability.
The press doesn't have a lot of, you know, in the NBA, you say something about the referee, get fined.
In the NBA, you say something about the referee.
The leak fines you, right?
In a media, you get to say anything.
There are no fines.
Very rarely do you hear this person was suspended for one day.
You know, like even what happened back in the days with the comedian Chappelle, when they're like, well, you're going a little bit too much.
You know, I think we got to shut him down, right?
It's like, I'm just done.
I'm going to take a break.
And then he comes back hitting hard again, right?
Where is the press being held accountable for this?
Where's the press being held accountable for pushing a story for three years that was a lie?
And then they say, ah, it's not a big thing.
Okay, let's talk about what's going on today and they just move on.
Where's the level of accountability for the press?
These are the guys that we, these are journalists.
They went to school to be journalists, right?
I mean, they go to school to be a journalist.
These guys get paid to get on camera and report to us what's going on.
This is what they get paid to do.
And they take a story like this and they just spin it to the way they want it.
And then boom, America divides.
If you were to tell me what is your biggest concern long term, what's your biggest concern long term?
You know that Breen Newsome that said, well, you know, all this stuff, racism, you know, we've been using knives against each other for eons.
Just kind of leave us alone.
Or AOC that goes out there and says this is just injustice that's taking place.
And LeBron, hey, who's next?
You're next.
This is a person like LeBron with the kind of influence you got to put the guy's picture.
And you say you're next.
You put the guy's dumb shit.
It was an emotional dumb show.
By the way, by the way, that's somebody's life.
But he's not going to get suspended.
Twitter's not going to go do anything to him.
And that's okay.
Why?
So the level of accountability is not...
He potentially put this man like...
And you realize that's somebody's kid as well that we're talking about.
You put his picture on blast saying you're next, not saying anything like, you know, hey, it's unfair what happened today.
You know, you're next.
In the world of what you're next means to a lot of people, your next has a lot of interpretations.
And by the way, to the wrong person who's a die-hard LeBron fan and says, you know what?
Yeah, yeah, you're next.
Let me find this mother.
You know, you've got to be careful.
So I think today's...
Same thing with a diehard Trump fan when they do all that.
Well, no, but he was held accountable, though.
That's true.
But he's not held accountable.
We'll see.
What do we mean?
We'll see.
We'll see if we can see.
Wait, wait, wait.
What do we mean we'll see?
The tweets already happened.
Okay.
He's on this multi-party.
I don't think anything will happen, but we'll see what happens if LeBron.
No, buddy, nothing is going to happen.
But back to your initial point.
Yeah, it's okay.
So you went from press to LeBron.
I think just how like when Trump tweets something and the fact check and everything happened with that, I think there does need to be a clear distinction these days between fact-based journalism and opinion-based journalism.
So I think if we're going to go there, I think when Hannity does a show or when Don Lamond does a show, it should say opinions of this person or opinion journalism or when Wolf Blitzer does a show or when Neil Cavuto does a show, these will say fact.
Okay, I mean Tucker is opinion.
Yeah, of course.
But there's certain journalists who are fact-based and there's certain journalists who are opinion-based.
And there was no clear distinction for a long time.
And I think at this point, at this point, like if you do the Fox News Hour between Laura Ingram, Tucker Carlson, Hannity, these are all opinions.
Even the five.
These are all opinions.
Same thing for CNN.
You got Cuomo.
You've got Brooke Baldwin.
These are all opinions.
These are not fact-based journalists.
I don't know.
In the Wall Street Journal, though, you see today, you do have many questions.
Let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question.
You think if we went on a five-year diet of showing stuff on the news, recognizing unifiers, recognizing voice of reason, recognizing people that are willing to sit with opposing side and have a debate or discourse, debate, or discourse.
You think people would be inspired to want to be that more versus if we turned a divider like LeBron into a hero, if we turn dividers into heroes, everybody looks at the playbook and says, I want to also be a divider.
Yep.
Because that's who we're turning into a hero.
Kids are growing up saying, I want to be a divider because that's what pays.
I want to be divided because that's what celebrity.
I want to be a divider.
I think we you disagree with that.
I don't think anybody says, I want to be a divider.
I think they say, I want to stand up for what I believe.
And based on those beliefs.
There's a difference between standing up for you.
And you're going to pick a side.
Listen.
Nobody says, I want to divide people.
Listen, I'm a Christian.
I'm a Christian.
I consider myself a Christian, okay?
But you have no idea how skeptical of a Christian I am.
You have no idea.
So I don't sit there.
If you ask any of the Christian mentors in my life, what is it like when you talk to Pat?
They'll tell you.
This guy's like, what about this?
And I don't sit here and say, no matter what, da-da-da-da-da.
Dude, reason.
You're a reasonable person.
But what I'm saying is we need to recognize that element in the world to get more kids to also want to reason.
That is what we're not recognizing enough of.
Recognizing the hero that's sitting there saying, I don't know, versus that's not fair.
Jumping to conclusion.
Emotion.
Turn him into a hero.
I want to be like him.
So I think it's a great idea.
How do you implement that?
How do you implement?
No, it's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
It's not about how you implement it.
It doesn't sell.
It's not going to happen because it doesn't match the narrative.
There's no way that'll happen because it doesn't match the narrative.
It's no way in the world there's something that's going to sit there and say, well, no, no, we can't do that because we're not pushing our agenda more.
We're not pushing our agenda more, pushing our gender more.
I'm going to make my prediction to hear today.
You know what else happens every time there's a possibility of an empire falling?
You know what else happens every time there's a possibility of empire falling?
Guess what happens?
Every single time history repeats itself and crap like this happens, guess what happens?
A whole new wave of leaders are born.
Every time, every time a guy who's tatted up, who has the background that he has, gets inspired pre he and I meeting, you were never into any capitalism, politics, anything.
Ricky was a guy to himself and now Ricky's out there voice being for the Latino community.
Why?
Because he's sitting there saying, I can reason with this.
You're going to see the kind of leaders that are going to be raised up the next 10, 20 years, like we've never seen before.
Like we've never seen before.
But the direction we're going right now, America's naive if they don't see how we're being divided right now.
Pure pathetic what they're doing to us right now.
Pinning people against each other.
You cannot fall for it.
Unfortunately, America's falling for it.
And when you say they, are you talking about the media specifically?
Who else would it be outside of the media?
Media and politicians.
Who else would it be?
Media politicians.
People with voices and perspectives.
LeBron's not media.
LeBron's not apologizing.
LeBron is absolutely media.
Yeah.
LeBron is media.
So anybody's media.
LeBron owns a media company.
He raised $100 million.
Greenhill.
What do you mean he's not media?
So, okay.
Is Anthony Davis media?
Like, if we're going to go there.
Who's Anthony?
Who's Anthony Davis?
That's a role model.
Okay, so just because LeBron, so was LeBron media before he had a media company?
LeBron's probably been media for the last five years because he's been a guy that's.
So if you have a big voice, you're media.
Yeah, that's influence.
So you can be on social media and you can be media, right?
Is that what you're saying?
You could be media, but you got to use your platform to bring people to the center to have a discourse.
You know, people say, Pat, the day you fire Adam is a day I'll watch the podcast.
Yeah, you're an idiot for saying something like that.
What do you mean the day I fire Adam?
I'm going to be on the podcast.
You know, I cannot believe you gave a socialist a platform and you brought Dan Price on.
I'm going to bring him on again.
I can't believe you brought Richard Wolfe, socialist professor who believes in socialism and wants to make America socialist.
Why would you bring him on your show?
I'll bring him 50 more times.
I'll bring him 50 more.
Why would you have a conversation with a communist Slavo zizzyk?
Because that's how we are able to reason and see leaks in the argument.
And then you get to make a decision for yourself.
But that's not what it is today.
Today, it's let me just bring everybody that's on my side to validate my point, not the other way around.
We need a little bit of resistance.
Unfortunately, we're not getting a lot of resistance today.
Anyways, how about we talk about Elon Musk, the story of Elon Musk for entrepreneur Max and to go to a little bit of a different kind of a story?
All right, here we go.
Elon Musk proclaims himself as Emperor of Mars.
Entrepreneur Magazine, the co-founder of private space exploration, company SpaceX, Elon Musk, noted that the key to preventing the extinction of animals and planets on Earth lies on Mars.
In a tweet this weekend, Elon Musk remarked that if we manage to make life interplanetary, it will not matter if it becomes extinct on Earth, page three.
Because it will live on the red planet.
A few days ago, Musk took advantage of the excitement caused by the company's reusable robots to proclaim himself in his tweets, Twitter biography as Emperor of Mars.
It should be remembered that Musk constantly changes his description on the social network and has called himself currency advisor as in the Game of Thrones because of his internet interest in digital currencies such as Dogecoin.
So, Adam, what are you thinking about Elon Musk being the Emperor of Mars?
Kai, real quick, give Ricky your notes.
He's got the notes from.
Nobody will fall.
Change with him.
Number one, shout out to Earth.
Shout out to Earth.
It's probably my favorite planet that I've ever been on.
Shout out to Earth.
Today is Earth Day.
So I know that Elon Musk is obsessed with Mars, and kudos to him for that.
And I know that he's the proclaimed Emperor of Mars and respect.
I know that he's banging Martians and he turned his girlfriend into an alien.
I get it.
But just shout out to her say that.
What do you mean by that?
Have you not seen what she looks like?
I sincerely don't know what you mean.
Okay.
You don't know what alien is.
Yes, I know what it is.
Kai, pull up.
Our friend, what's her name again?
Grimes.
Pull up, Grimes.
This is Elon Musk.
I think he's a vision.
Let me give you the, to use a Dogecoin reference.
That's his girl.
That's his girl.
Oh.
Yeah, you into that?
Ricardo?
Down in Michigan, this is how you get down or no?
Okay, I didn't think so.
So let's give the different sides of Dogecane.
He's a visionary.
He's a dreamer.
He's a big thinker.
He's an absolute billionaire.
Respect.
He's toying with people, though.
He's saying I'm the Emperor of Mars.
But I think he also, he might be toying with people, but I also think he does have some sort of a God complex.
We talked about that last night.
I think he's getting a little too otherworldly for his own good.
I think he's doing a lot of good things.
I'm an Elon Musk fan, but I do think he's kind of getting out of the way.
But you know what, though?
But you know what?
I don't think anybody, nobody should be a self-proclaimed.
I don't think he's even made that statement.
He did say he's the Emperor of Mars.
Being an emperor and consider yourself a God are two different things.
I said he's got a God complex.
Okay, what I'm getting, bro, in order to do what this man has done, you've got to be kind of, you've got to be nuts.
I said he's a little crazy and a little cookie and he's a visionary.
No, I'm just saying, like, you got to be off in order to be able to do what he's been able to do because you have to have an imagination and creativity that's beyond, you know, beyond a normal person.
You know, I like it.
He could call himself whatever.
I like it.
I'm a big Elon Musk fan.
I think that I like that he calls himself.
He doesn't bother you at all.
You're cool with it.
You think he's toy trolling with people?
You think he's kind of like a bad person?
Yeah, he is so as well.
And I love it.
But that's for the same reason I'm a big 6ix9ine fan, Pat.
Yeah, to keep it.
You're a big 6ix9ine fan.
He calls you 6'9.
I had so much respect for you.
Bro, he's beginning to get away from.
And then you go out and do something like this.
Bro, he went to the business.
And totally redeemed.
This guy went and he snitched on people for the right, you know, for whatever reasons he did, right or wrong reasons.
And then he comes out and he's a millionaire again because he just rattles the cage so much.
You're cool with the snitching?
No, no, I'm not cool with the Slinchie.
I'm cool with him rattling the cage.
I like that.
But from where you're from, if one of you people came and sniffed, okay.
Yeah.
So you're cool with him.
No.
So I don't know where you're at with him.
No, I'm just saying I like that he's a disruptor.
I like that he doesn't care.
I like that.
Takashi is a little bit more.
Let me read the other part about him.
Elon Musk said he was a Secret Service special agent when he donated to the Republican Party and FEC filing shows business inside.
Elon Musk has already changed his title at Tesla as Techno King, and now he's claiming to work for Secret Service.
The tech billionaire donated $990 to the Republican National Committee across January 7th and 8th and listed to his job as special agent at the U.S. Secret Service New Federal Election Commission filing show.
There's no evidence that Musk has any connection to the U.S. Secret Service.
He has obviously previously listed aerospace company SpaceX as his employer on political donations.
Oh my God.
So my question is January 7th and 8th of what year?
He's smoking that.
He's smoking that Marshall Eater.
This guy is classic on what he's doing.
January 7th and 8th of what year?
He doesn't say.
Just say January 7th.
If it says January 7th and 8th, that means it's this year.
Okay, so that means he donated a weird number.
It's a weird number.
He's a weird dude.
But you did it the day after the insurrection at the Capitol.
That happened January 6th.
So after that, he said, I got to give money to these motherfuckers over here.
Like, what?
But $9.90.
What's the $99?
You know that he's got a code behind the 90s.
Of course, he prices things at $420 and $69.
Dude, he's a weird, out there, crazy visionary that likes banging aliens.
And that's it.
That's what you're sticking to.
I'm sticking to it until he proves otherwise.
Let's talk about Vanessa Bryant.
Nike opt out.
Now, Vanessa Bryan, Nike opt not to renew nearly 20-year long-term partnership over differences.
This is a Fox business story.
Vanessa Bryan and Kobe Bryant's estate decided not to extend their partnership with Nike, which expired earlier this month due to several differences between the two sides.
Sources told the ESPN that Bryant and the state were frustrated with the limited availability of Bryan's products and more significantly that Nike presented them with an offer that was not in line with the expectations of a lifetime deal similar to those of Michael Jordan of LeBron James.
Bryant originally signed with Nike in 03.
The estate is now free to negotiate a deal with new brands.
What do you think about that?
Interesting.
I thought it was the other way around.
I thought Nike didn't want to continue it anymore.
Well, they were not happy about the offer.
So Vanessa and the estate said we're not interested.
So Nike made an offer, but it wasn't the rich offer of a Jordan over LeBron James.
And they kind of turned away.
Well, I think what's pretty clear, if you read anything about this story, is that Kobe, rest in power, legend, is that he wanted to leave Nike and start his own Mamba brand, much like the Air Jordan, whether that's under the Nike umbrella or not.
But Kobe, look, I think as amazing as a basketball player as he was, and he'll go down as top five, top 10 ever, clearly, right?
I think MJ is number one.
LeBron, Kobe, Will, you know, Kareem, Russell, whatever, wherever you want to put him, he's certainly in the top five.
Shaq, top 10.
I think he would have been equally, if not better, a businessman than an athlete.
And the run rate would have been triple that, what his NBA career was.
Because by the time he retired, it was in his early 40s and he had played for 20 years.
And I think he would have had another 40 years plus of being a businessman, a role model, a dad, a girl dad.
I actually would have respected his business acumen more than his basketball acumen because I think he would have changed the world business-wise and given an example.
So back to this, I think he had a set of beliefs that he wanted to abide by.
I think obviously Vanessa and the family knew about it.
And I think, you know, don't be shocked if a Mamba brand comes out.
That's all I'm saying.
And, you know, and Pat, I'm sure you have a perspective, a very unique perspective on Kobe because you're the only person at this table that actually sat with him for hours on end and learned about his perspective and his values and his principles.
But something that they talked about here is a lifetime deal.
But what happens when you're no longer alive?
How do you bet on the athlete or put money behind the assets?
That's no longer alive.
Yeah, that's kind of what I was talking to Pat yesterday.
I mean, he's, you know, unfortunately, he's not with us anymore.
So how do you, you know, how do you continue?
You know, Jordan is still there.
He did his commercials even after he was out of the NBA.
You know, he's still a, you know, he did the last dance, which brought him, you know, Michael Jordan is very much alive with the older generation, our generation, but the newer generation, they're like, they're Chris, they're, what is Chris, what's it for the Golden State Warriors?
Chris Steph Curry.
Steph Curry, they're Steph Gurry guys.
They're LeBron guys.
They don't know basketball.
Well, I'm just saying, there's the newer generation.
Those are the people who think Steph Curry is the best thing ever.
The most exciting player too.
Which is true.
But I think the last dance solidified his Jordan legacy with the younger guys.
He almost relived, like, people relived Jordan again through the which, by the way, something that's Kobe and Fortune is not going to be able to do, you know, 20, 30 years from now after he's done with the league is not going to be able to relive through a last dance series.
So, yeah, I mean, with Nike, I can understand both sides of it.
He's not here anymore to push that.
And Vanessa's not going to push it.
She's not the driver behind it.
No, that's true.
What's your perspective on this story?
But also just bigger business acumen.
Yeah, so I mean, the real question you got to ask is the following.
There's no way in the world Vanessa Bryan, with all the advisors she has around her that are, you know, like full-on Kobe fans are going to steer her in the wrong direction.
Right.
And there's no way you're breaking a deal with Nike without having an alternative.
You're just not going to do it.
There's no way in the world.
Remember when Parler fired the CEO, the board did, and they fired a founder, and we had a meeting about five, six months ago, and I said, if the board hires a CEO that gets Parler back on the app, guess what?
The board gets credit for bringing a better CEO.
And guess what, though?
Guess what happened?
Apple is now allowing Parler to get back on the board, get back onto AWS.
And BayWS, which means that credit goes to the board for firing the founder and CEO of Parlor.
Respect there to the founder being fired, okay?
To the board.
So in this situation, we're sitting here listening to this.
Vanessa Bryan and her group may be sitting there saying, Nike just lost big time.
Wow.
So, you know, we learned worldwide how much Kobe was loved.
Let's just face it.
We learned how much Kobe was loved.
You know, you realize how much you're loved, unfortunately.
You will never find out how much you're loved until you're dead.
The only people that are going to know how much you're loved is the day you die, how many people show up to your funeral and how stories start showing up that nobody knew about.
Okay.
Because those stories don't show up until a person dies and start telling these stories, a lot of them, right?
Yeah.
Kobe died when happened.
Everybody stopped and everybody started telling stories about Kobe.
Okay.
Kobe started off with Adidas, if I'm not mistaken, when he first came into the league.
It was a Nike.
I owned that.
I think Kobe had an Adidas shoe.
Yep, I owned it.
Today, Kobe's got what?
You got, today competition is to Nike is who?
Under Armour?
Yeah.
You got Adidas.
Where the hell is Reebok these days?
Reebok is not going to be the one that's going to play ball here.
But you got Adidas and you got Under Armour.
Okay.
And Under Armour is by who?
Today.
Under Armour is they got a lot of guys.
If you look at who Under Armour's got.
And Under Armor's shoes today, they're actually good shoes.
I like Under Armour's shoes today.
Not 10 years ago, not five years ago.
I wear Under Armor shoes today.
I also wear Nike, but I wear Under Armor shoes today.
Is it likely that someone's going to pick this deal up?
I think so.
Why?
Because the saying goes, legends never.
Kobe's a hero.
He's a legend.
He's in a league of his own.
I think somebody's out there already waiting to pick up this contract that's willing to pay the massive lifetime contract of, and a lifetime contract in this sense could be a 50-year contract, a 30-year contract, a 100-year contract, a 20-year contract, because Kobe's going to be relevant for a very, very long time to come.
He's not going to be going away.
So, the shoes will be coming out.
You think Jordan's shoes are going to sell 50 years after Jordan dies?
Yes.
50 years after he dies?
Oh, man.
Yeah, probably.
Okay.
So you wear Ferragamos, no?
Yeah.
Do we know if Ferragamo's alive or not?
I have no idea.
See what I'm saying?
But you know, the point is.
He wears Louis Vuitton Versace.
Louis Versace Gucci.
I don't even know who the hell they are.
Kobe is that big of a fan.
What story do you want to go to next?
You wanted to go to a story with Brady?
Let's go to the Brady story because it's on the same exact page.
So Tom Brady says, actions always speak louder than words.
Pat Mahomes fans say, fans say fans will find out in 20 years who is better.
This is a Daily Caller story.
Tom Brady says actions speak louder than words.
In response to a tweet about which athlete is better, him or Pat Mahomes, following the Buccaneers victory against the Chiefs.
The back and forth between the star QB started with a tweet from Kansas City Royals team, which included a video of Royals catcher Salvador Perez wearing a number 12 jersey with the name Brady on it.
The catcher then looked at the camera, shook his finger, and says, Pat Mahomes is the best.
The video of Perez wearing the Brady jersey stems from a Super Bowl bet between Salvador's former teammate, Brett Phillips.
The bet was that if Bucs won, Perez would wear Tampa Bay jersey to batting practice when the Royals and Rays met for the April for their April series at Kauffman Stadium.
And if the Chiefs won, Phillips would wear instead have to rock a Kansas City jersey.
The Chiefs, QB Mahomes, who's lost to the Bucs 31-9 Super Bowl, said fans wouldn't know in 20 years who is better.
So who is going to end up being better?
Bro, Brady.
Are you even like Mahomes?
Take a step back, guy.
You've done nothing.
You've had a couple good seasons.
You were an MVP of Super Bowl.
Cool.
I get it.
You're basically, you're not even Aaron Rodgers at this point, Mahomi.
That's not my homie, Mahomes.
Like, the fact that you even have the audacity, the freaking audacity to compare yourself with Brady, have a little respect, have a little, like, less of an ego to say, you know what?
He's the GOAT.
I hope and pray to even be in the conversation with him one day.
The fact that you have the ego to say, oh, we'll see in 20 years who's better.
Bro, if you might be lucky to win one more Super Bowl, Mahomi, okay?
So, dude, you're nowhere near Tom Brady's level.
If you'd be lucky to play until you're 40s like Tom Brady, I wasn't a Mahomes fan before this, but if this is the way that he's going with this, with this ego, oh my God.
And there are going to be players coming after this guy.
You know how players have a target on their back sometimes?
Mahomi, they're coming after you.
You're nowhere near GOAT level like Tom Brady.
You think they're going to go after him this season?
Hell yeah.
You think I might even get into the NFL and go after him, okay?
And you're a record-breaking guy.
You're a superstar here, all-county wide receiver records.
I might quit the podcast and go back to the NFL just to take a look at it.
Ricky, what do you think?
You know, come on and agree.
No, I'm a good person.
I'm a huge Tom Brady fan, and I think he's excellent.
And I think that, you know, he had a 20-year career.
Is it 20 years?
If not longer.
Yeah, his 20-year career.
I hate to say it, but I agree with you, Adam.
Mahomes has not done even a quarter.
He hasn't even played a quarter of the time that Brady's been playing.
He has a lot to go to prove himself to be able to make those kind of statements.
But to play the devil's advocate, he says in 20 years.
So, you know, he has essentially he's putting a timeline on when he's going to prove that he is better.
But for now, the time being, it's a big statement.
I just don't, I don't know, man.
It's just difficult.
Paul, what you think?
You know something about football.
But why don't you say something about this?
Because I don't see Sam I see you and that's exactly what I was looking for for the football debate.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I'm actually agreeing with Adam here, shocker, because be humble and you're nowhere even close.
Again, there's a lot of quarterbacks in this world that's won an MVP and have won a Super Bowl.
So he's not actually that special in the realm of great quarterbacks.
I mean, Terry Brashaw's got four.
Joe Montana still got four, I think.
You know, Eli Manning's got two.
Like, you're not even at Eli Manning's level yet, bro.
Right.
And he does have an MVP.
And again, he's not even near Peyton Manning yet.
Guys, you're missing the whole point here.
Wow.
You're missing the whole point here.
Are you flipping?
Like, I thought for sure you or you or you, one of you guys would have said this.
Paul, hear me out.
Case study Robert Griffin.
Can I be the one against three here?
Can I be the one against three?
And you guys can trash me.
You can call me out.
You can say you have no clue what you're talking about.
But hear me out, my verdict.
Okay, so this guy who's supposed to be the number one pick comes out and says to SI in an interview, Trevor Lawrence, that everybody's raving about that this guy's going to be the next great whoever they're talking about.
They're comparing him to who?
To a Manning.
He's going to be the legendary next guy.
You know what he says in an SI interview?
Here's what he says.
It's not like I need this for my life to be okay.
I want to do this because I want to be the best I can be.
I want to maximize my potential.
Who wouldn't want to?
You kind of waste it if you don't, right?
What the hell are we talking about, the number one pick?
Then everyone comes out and says, this guy doesn't have a chip on his shoulder, right?
He doesn't have a chip on his shoulder.
No chip on his shoulder.
Okay.
You just signed a $504 million contract with a guy named Pat Mahomes.
That's insane.
You give this guy $504 million right after he signs.
He owns the Kansas City Royals.
He becomes one of the owners, part owner, right?
And this guy has the audacity to go up against the greatest of all time.
Do you realize if I'm sitting there as an owner, just pay this guy $504 million, my biggest concern is this guy can do everything and anything.
He still wants to go after the guy.
We got the right guy in our corner.
I don't care whether he's right or wrong.
Seven championships, very difficult.
The records that Brady's had with 52-something, very difficult.
Did you see Pat Mahomes' first season?
How many yards did he throw in his first season?
First or second season?
The second season when he played.
If you look at this guy's stats, if you look at his stats of what he did in the last three seasons, it's ridiculous.
By the way, Brady doesn't compare to his stats in the first couple seasons.
It's not even comparable.
Brady was a game manager when he came into the league.
He didn't come into his own.
But you're talking about a guy.
You're talking about a guy, Mahomes, who's all game.
He wants to compete.
He's not afraid and he's likable.
He's not arrogant.
He's not cocky.
He's not Manzel.
He's not Baker Mayfield.
He won a Super Bowl already.
He got an MVP already.
How old is Mahomes right now?
25 or 26?
How old is the guy?
I actually want to know how old this guy is.
How old is this guy?
What is his age?
That's what I want to know.
How old is Mahomes?
He's right now.
He's 25 years old, calling out Brady at 43 years old that he's not scared.
He's got 18 more years if he plays till 43.
And it kind of, you know, health and the way they're doing exercises today to be able to make players play a long time.
I love the fact that he says we're not going to know for 20 years.
That's not a shot to me.
All it tells me is as a fan, thank God there's guys that still think like Mahomes who say, hey, the reason why we loved Kobe was what?
You call Michael Jordan black Jesus.
To me, that's just Mike.
I'm going to go against him.
I love the fact that Mahomes said this.
FYI, you know who wins here?
Do you know who wins here with Mahomes' comments?
Who do you think wins here?
The owner of the team.
Who else do you think wins here?
Who do you think wins here the most?
The viewers.
The fans.
Yes.
The fans, the league, they have a face that's not afraid.
When Kobe was not afraid to go up against Jordan, the fans won.
The league won.
The NBA today is pathetic.
Let's hug each other.
It's not fair.
Let's do this.
These are my boys.
These are my diss.
There is no competition.
Let me go play with these guys.
Let me take seven days off because I'm going through challenges right now.
I don't need to play.
This guy's saying, no, no, no.
I'm coming for you.
And you may be better than me.
But we're going to find that in 2010.
No, you're right.
I got a lot of respect for a guy like that, man.
And by the way, you know what the likelihood of this guy passing up Brady?
You know what the chances of that is?
Passing him up how?
As being the GOAT, as being the greatest of all time.
What's the likelihood?
1%.
Next to nothing.
But do you want that guy wearing your jersey?
I guarantee you would want that guy being your jersey.
He's winning the fight.
Versus a Trevor Lawrence.
I don't really need this.
I don't really need.
You know what?
You don't need this?
Go to fourth pick instead of first pick instead of getting the King Kong contract first pick yet.
I don't really need this.
You're saying you want your actions.
I'm going to battle you on that one.
Stop it.
The only thing I'm going to say is actions will speak loud in the words.
I don't really care what Trevor Lawrence says.
If he's putting in the work, I don't really care what you say.
I tell you.
Okay.
I will.
Sure, it's good if he says those things.
What are you talking about?
Because look at Eli Manning.
Eli Manning was not that guy, right?
He looked like a dope.
But he's not an Eli Manning.
Eli Manning is not Trevor Lawrence.
Trevor Lawrence is better than Eli Manning.
It's not in the same league.
I don't even think talent-wise.
Are you kidding?
It's not even a ton of winning.
Oh, no, agreed.
Of course.
So you can't make the comparison.
It wasn't Eli Manning.
But yeah, Eli Manning still went number one, and Eli Manning won two championships.
And he took two away from our buddy, Brady.
So Brady could have been without Eli Manning in his life.
At the end of the day, I want actions over words.
So if Mahomes is talking more than putting in the work, then I don't care.
This is not a guy that hasn't proven any.
This guy won a Super Bowl and he won MVP.
You're not talking about a schlep here.
No, but he's still 25.
That's even more of a reason.
But I want to see you at 30.
Let's just get to 30.
Let's move.
I didn't think we need to cover a topic before we end the show if we have time.
Just go ahead, Tom.
Because he might not be alive by next week.
What's the story?
This guy, Navalny.
Navalny.
Putin versus Navalny.
You want to talk about this?
I think we need to because he might not be alive by next week.
What page are we on?
That's page seven.
Okay, let's go to page seven.
Ricky's already here.
If you want to go to page seven of John Stassen.
Yeah, I'm there.
I'm there.
Okay.
Shout out to John Stassen.
Putin warns West of harsh response.
If it crosses Russia's red lines, Reuters story.
Vladimir Putin warned the West on Wednesday not to cross Russia's red line, says Moscow would respond swiftly and harshly to any provocations, and those responsible would regret it at a time of acute crisis and ties with the United States and Europe.
The Russian troops massed near Ukraine on opposition leader Alexei Navalny on hunger strike in jail.
The Kremlin leader used his state of the nation speech to project a message of Russian strength and defiance in the face of outside threats.
Putin, who is 68 and has dominated Russia for two decades, made no mention of Navalny.
Washington last week tightened sanctions on Russia over accusations of computer hacking and election interference, and the Czech Republic accused Moscow of a rolling explosions at an arms depot in 2014.
Both expelled Russians, diplomats.
Russia denied wrongdoing and responded with tit-for-tat expulsions.
I'm going to read the next part, then I'm going to give it to you here on Navalny.
Dozens of Navalny's supporters arrested a day of protest against Vladimir Putin.
This is a news week story.
Police in Russia started making arrests early Wednesday, a day when protests in support of jailed opposition figure Alexei Navalny are expected to draw tens of thousands of people in the streets of the country.
There was an urgency to the scheduling of the protests of Navalny due to his reported faltering health, which has generated international concern.
So, Adam, you look like you got something to say about this.
Go ahead.
I don't know how much time we have left, but look, this guy, Alexey Navalny, is a serious guy, man.
Okay?
This is a guy who was, if you ever seen that report of him being poisoned on an airplane, oh, die.
He's dying on a plane.
He leaves the country, ends up in Germany, recovers, recuperates, goes back to Russia.
He could have just left the country and never came back because he knew what he was in for.
He said, I'm going back.
Gets jailed.
He's in jail for however long.
This guy's, he's a serious dude.
He's got some serious balls here, and he's going against Putin.
I know you're a big fan of Putin.
I'm not putting words in your mouth, but I know that you respect Putin a lot.
I told you that.
You did.
When?
The last time I saw you, when you said the beach, it was no longer, but you said you respect Putin more than Biden.
I said that.
Yes.
Why did I say that?
I don't know.
You're about to speak.
But this guy, Putin, he's a murderer.
He's a thug.
And a lot of people do respect him because he's a tough guy.
But the world is watching.
And now this guy's on a hunger strike.
And we'll see what happens here.
So I got respect for this guy, Navalny.
I don't know what he's doing.
And then regarding what's going on in Crimea, the analogy here with Crimea is Russia cares about this beyond.
It's kind of like how China cares about Taiwan.
What's going on?
What's that noise?
Go ahead, keep it.
I heard a noise.
Go ahead.
You got all sorts of hearing.
Anyway, this guy is legit.
And this guy's about to die, more than likely.
He's on a hunger strike.
He's being jailed.
I don't know how much longer he's got left.
That's my concern.
Where are you at?
I'm with you as far as him going and then coming back.
He obviously had a point to prove.
And yeah, he is on a hunger.
I read up a little bit yesterday.
But I mean, at the end of the day, here's what it comes down to.
You know, we're talking about martyrs earlier, right?
So what do you think he wants to be a martyr for, Naval?
This guy, Navaldi, what do you want to be a martyr for?
In your opinion?
He's wanting to be a martyr.
Likely the corruption and the everything that's surrounding Putin and everything that he stands for.
Okay, so what do you think about Putin them saying that he's fine, that he's perfectly fine, that he's good?
Can you trust that whatsoever?
That's like when China says anything, how can you trust them?
Okay, so what it comes down to is it comes out to something very, very, very, very simple.
It's not difficult to look at it or to have a different perspective on it.
When Putin is in a position to where he can expose him and say, hey, he's fine, right?
Because that's what he's saying, right?
That's what the government's saying, if I'm not mistaken, that he's good, right?
Or am I mistaken?
Yeah, I guess.
He's on a hunger strike.
He's dying in prison.
He's fine.
If he's fine, then show him to the public.
Bring him on and show him that he's fine.
Right?
To discredit all, because they're trying to discredit him, right?
That's what they're trying to do.
He's trying to discredit Putin.
Well, but Putin's also trying to discredit him.
That's why he has him locked up.
So show that he's fine.
Bring him out.
And show the world because it's a world story.
You guys are on the same page on this.
To a certain extent.
Yes or no?
I'm on Team Navalny.
I'm not on Twitter.
That's what he's on.
Show him his fan.
Show me somebody.
He's a Putin fan, though.
No, I'm not a Putin fan.
I never told you that.
I never told you that.
Maybe you were emotional when you do that.
No, I don't get it.
No, bro.
You said you like it.
Oh, by the way, North.
Let me clear that up.
You said that.
Let me clear that up.
This is the way I talk.
This is not emotion.
I come from a loud-ass Mexican family.
People are like, you talk, people not be emotional, but you're emotional.
No, no, I don't know how they speak in your house.
But in my house, everybody when we're having dinner speaks over each other.
That's just the way it is.
This is the way I talk.
Have you met Alejandro or no?
I have not.
By the way, even maybe even more animated.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, we're.
Alejandro stands up and runs around and he's like, but I make your brother.
I make logical points.
He's a good guy.
But this is what people are like.
It's funny because I always, even when I do lives, you're telling people not to be emotional, but you're emotional.
I don't know how it is in your household.
But in my household, everybody yells.
I'm cool.
As long as you can apologize to me, bro.
Trust me, I have plans to apologize.
Trust me, I have zero plans of apologizing to you.
But what I'm getting at is that, just for the viewers, this is the way we talk in my house.
You can talk to my wife.
My mom is my wife for.
$300.
Would you apologize?
No, I would never apologize to you for anything, not even $300.
But what I'm getting at is...
I want $700 more in quarters, Ricardo.
I got you.
Don't worry about it.
What are you going to do with those quarters?
I'm actually so curious what you're going to do with that.
By the way, let's say...
Laundry day.
Okay.
So let's, by the way, do you have any takes on Navalny and Putin and what's going on in Russia?
I say that's the part about America where at least we have the ability to see what the alternative option is and then we decide.
Okay.
In Russia, you don't really have that because you don't have a lot of options.
He tells you, I'm going to be here for a while.
You can't do nothing about it.
And Russians kind of say, okay, that's where we're going.
That's the difference between what we still have in America and what some other countries don't have.
It's the benefit of how America was founded on.
Okay, Kai, if you want to pull up, we got a video from our buddy Tom Zener, who has not been here this week, but he's got a video for us with VT Post.
I want to share with you guys.
VT Post stories this last week was probably one of the most fiery weeks ever on VT Post if you haven't.
That's my dad and I somebody sent this to me.
So Tom's got a message for us here from, where is he at?
Is he at Manhattan Beach rubbing it in?
He's in Manhattan Beach paying out additional 13.3% taxes and looking the way that he does.
Tom, what do you got to tell us, Tom?
What's up, Pat, Ricky, Adam, Kai?
How you guys doing out in Boca?
Nice day brewing here in California.
I got you guys.
Great podcast today.
Thumbs up from me all the way out here in LA.
By the way, you guys end in a few minutes.
I'm going to keep a lot of these stories going at VTPost.com.
Let me show you a little bit about what we're working on today.
Biggie Smalls, his estate is going to be managed by William Morris.
So there might be some new content coming from Biggie Smalls if you're a fan of his.
Jeff Bezos isn't the only big-time executive leaving Amazon.
He's got dozens of senior VPs that are bailing on him right now, too.
We've got that story.
And how about this?
There's a 90-year-old grandma, a granny in China that got scammed out of 32 million bucks.
So we got all kinds of stories like that all day.
VTPost.com.
By the way, Adam, here's a little investing advice for you for free from me.
Take some of those quarters that Ricky brought for you from California.
Invest in VIP's premium service.
It's only a buck a month.
Okay, that's it.
You're going to get some great stuff.
Have a great day, guys.
I will see you in the studio on Tuesday.
That's a good investment.
I'll tell you what.
I'll take his investment.
Anyone who wants to vlog.com.
Submit your name.
Whoever's not submitted to vtpost.com and wants to be, it's a dollar a month.
You have $300 in quarters on me.
I will donate that money.
So whoever submits their name, you can send an email to Kai.
Maybe you can speak up.
I will take these $300 in quarters and gift it to our value chain and pay for whoever wants to sign up.
First come, first serve.
And I'll have $700 more in quarters to donate as well.
How about that?
All right.
Well, gang, this has been great.
Ricky, good to have you back on Adam.
Welcome back.
As usual, great debate, great discourse.
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