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I mean, do you want to pick back up with the Norway stuff?
Because, you know, Norway stuff.
Now we're live.
Okay, we are.
By the way, we are officially live.
We are live.
What is this?
39 episode?
Yep.
Yeah.
Are we live or no?
You're pointing fingers at us.
Okay, we're good.
Bring it in.
Don't worry about it.
Bring it in.
Okay, so listen, very interesting start to the morning today.
Good morning, baby.
Yes, very sweet.
It's a weird morning.
Say hello to everybody.
There you go.
What's your name?
Tell them who you are.
Brandon, do video edits.
Okay, good.
Yeah, you need to think about it.
This is a double double.
So very weird morning for us today.
Elaborate, elaborate.
What's happened over the last half hour?
I think it's fair to say I had the worst egg whites of my life ever that Mickey brought.
It's not something.
Better or worse than yesterday.
No, no.
I mean, it's equally.
That chicken, whoever that chicken was that gave birth to that egg white was horrible.
That's the worst egg white I've ever had.
Yeah.
Every morning you do egg whites, yeah.
If I'm at the office, you kind of give like a throw open your mouth.
Exactly.
That egg white was legit terrible.
Yeah.
And then we had the Paul is wearing his Superman glasses.
Clark Kent.
Paul, can you come and show your face request?
Show that beautiful so people know with his beard, the glasses.
Guys, let us know if he's got a customer vibe going on.
He's got the full-on.
Take a look at the camera.
Give him a smile.
Yeah.
Don't forget the keyback.
No, no, no.
He's got the seriously.
He's got the Superman thing going on.
Paul Escarcega.
I'm never leaving that keyband.
There you go, buddy.
It's just been a weird morning.
Yeah.
Do we want to address the elephant in the room?
You can address it if you want to.
Where's Mario?
Where is Mario?
Mario.
Where are you?
Mario, our faithful leader.
Mario.
Demanding.
Sets the tone, sets the precedent.
Everybody be here on stand.
Just so you know he's listening right now.
We miss you, Mario.
Every morning we look to Mario for leadership.
Mario, when you get in, just go to where you sit in the corner with us.
No, listen, let me tell you one thing about Mario.
Mario, Mario's worked probably, I don't know, he's worked.
Harder than anyone.
Oh, let's get to another day.
For how long now?
God knows.
15 years straight.
But no doubt.
He's talking about specifically setting this whole thing up.
So we'll let him, you know, when he gets in here, maybe he just wants to.
Everyone deserves a day off.
Everybody.
Mario just so happened to do it on the day that we were doing our big podcast where we have Kai.
He's a leader.
We love him.
Listen.
We look to him to steer the shit.
To work in this environment, you have to have thick skin or else it's going to be rough.
It's a rough environment.
Specifically, Valutamin's.
Specifically Valutamin.
Yeah, because, you know, it's tough.
By the way, this was exactly how it was in the Army at our unit.
If you were at our unit and you wanted to hang out with us on the weekend, you had thin skin, we were the bad, worst people to hang out with.
But if you had thick skin, we were part of the thick skin community and we had a good time together.
Anyways, we got a lot of things.
Let me tell you, my first month of Valutamin cried in the corner for a month straight.
I'm like, I can't think of it.
I remember.
I remember I had you.
Now, call me what you want, baby.
Call me anything you want.
Well, let me read what somebody said yesterday.
Can I go there?
No, no.
I think it's important.
To the 2% of the audience?
No, no, this is actually 20% of the audience.
Natalie June comments yesterday.
Naming names.
Joe McCarthy.
This is so off topic, but how is Adam single?
So then I responded, great question.
He's looking for the right person.
Are you interested?
She says, I am single, and he's gorgeous, intelligent, and above all, he seems to have a big heart.
He seems like such a great guy.
I followed him on IG with the same photo.
It's real, I swear.
And then I would love to get to know Man and I. You know, it is what it is.
The rest of it is for you.
Can I be the ring bearer?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you, Natalie.
Thank you for value tainers out there for the love and respect.
We'll see you at Flanagan's.
See you at the gecko.
People watch our podcast.
They're like, what the hell is this gecko?
So, first of all, to our friends in Plano, Kai, I'm supposed to be in Texas next week for a meeting with Jose Gaitan TG, all those guys, and then I'm going to Louisville to be with Sepalas Vargas and everybody, which they're going to have.
This is your squad.
If you don't know those names, this is like, I think Ortiz is going to be there next week, Tito Ortiz.
And who's the football player?
The quarterback.
Tim Tebow.
Tim Thibault's going to be in, which, by the way, that's a very big Tim Tebo.
TBD and Tim Thibaut on stage together.
Tebow's going to be there.
And the guys, you know, Tebow is probably one of the best motivational speakers in the world.
He's one hell of a one quarterback tight end duo, right?
So I'm sitting here.
I'm like, okay, let me see what I got to wear next week for Dallas.
And I look at the weather.
It says a low of three degrees.
Okay?
A low of three degrees.
And Moral sends me, she says, no, you have it wrong.
It's a low of one degree.
Let me pull up a weather report.
I went to look at the coldest day ever in Plano.
Yeah.
It's minus seven degrees.
I say Plano, go for it.
That's what I say.
Break the record.
Go break the record.
Kind of like us and the Lego.
Let's go to minus eight.
First two.
First two.
It's forecasted.
Hey, look at that.
Monday.
Two degrees.
That's ridiculous to be at two degrees.
If you guys are not familiar with Plano, that's outside.
And for the European audience, this is not Celsius, right?
Oh, you have to.
See how you had the crickets there?
Yeah, that was a European jacket.
This is here.
This is here.
Mario is in the house.
He's in the house.
He's in the house.
Okay, Mario.
See you, Mario.
All right.
All good.
All good.
Allow me to say, on behalf of the South Florida Welcoming Committee, it's 75.
It's sunny.
It's gorgeous.
Go fuck yourself, Plano.
You said it.
I didn't say it.
I lived there for five years.
I did.
Kids went to school over there.
We have to put the disclaimer out there.
I loved it.
It was very good to us, but that's your opinion.
Okay, that's true.
I'm sorry.
Okay, all right.
So let's get into it.
So we got a lot to talk about.
I got a lot of topics to talk about.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. officially got kicked off of Instagram.
Okay.
So that's pretty interesting.
Permanently.
Is it Insta or Twitter?
Is it Insta or Twitter?
Instagram, but not Facebook.
But not Facebook, but not Twitter.
Just Instagram.
Because that's where he's most active.
He's very active on Instagram.
We'll talk about that here in a minute.
But by the way, we got an email this morning from Andrew Yang's team.
They want to be on that.
What did they say exactly?
No, no, just say, hey, would you be interested?
And we're going to go back and forth and see if it makes sense for us to have Andrew Yang gone.
That'd be cool.
You know what I commented on a post yet the other day?
He put a video up.
And, you know, there are certain policies you can have a battle with, but the guy as an individual, you got to like the guy.
Likeable.
The guy's a skateboarder.
He's sitting there in New York playing the piano.
I commented.
I said, I hope you beat de Blasio.
I'm rooting for you.
Is de Blasio running again?
Well, you know, whatever.
The point is, I hope you win because I want everything to be changing with New York, with what De Blasio, the mess he's made, et cetera, et cetera.
Imagine if he wins in New York and Shamat wins in California.
That's cool.
I think they're very similar.
By the way, very likely.
Yeah.
The gang is number one.
I like it.
But that's the mayor.
There's a big difference between mayor and governor.
Shamat's going to be governor.
Governor's.
So that's a tougher task than I think.
It is a tougher task.
But he's got Silicon Valley in his corner.
Shamat's got Silicon Valley in his corner.
Shamat's got the young entrepreneurs in his corner.
Shamat's a likable guy.
Smart guy.
On the other side, Gavin Newsome.
People really like him in California.
He's definitely doing a great job, right?
Did you just see crickets?
He might get they're closing in on one point.
Maybe we'll start off with that.
We'll start off with that.
We'll start off with that.
So just because of you.
Are you part of the Yang gang?
Is that what you're saying?
I didn't say that.
You're not Yang Gang, Yang, Yang, Yang Gang.
Yang Gang.
But I think he'll be very good for the city.
I really think he'll be a very good mayor.
I actually think he would be a good mayor.
Yang gang, Kai.
I'm on kind of the same wavelengths as Pat.
Yeah, there's interesting stuff with him, and then there's you know, you know what I'd want?
I'd want to.
Yesterday, I talked to Kiyosaki, and you did an interview with him, which is coming out.
Pretty insane that Adam's got an interview with Kiyosaki coming out on Vitamin.
First interview, but I was speaking to him yesterday, and maybe I'll bring that up here in a minute when we get into it.
But he said, What do you think about what's going on right now with having to be careful with what you say?
He says, My team's constantly trying to protect me for some of sometimes I tweet some stuff that I shouldn't be tweeting, et cetera, et cetera.
And we'll cover that because it's a strange time you're living.
You have to be very, very careful and selective with the words you use because they can come after you in no time.
But we'll cover that in a minute.
I don't want to bring up any bad, you know, food stuff, but it's kind of like you need to walk on eggshells these days with your eggs.
We're just, you know, terrible.
What happened when I ate the eggs, by the way?
I mean, Pat eats as egg whites every morning.
Before he last podcast, he said something was up with those eggs.
I'm not sure.
So, you know how you take paper town, you put it on top of the pizza?
Two, two, two, three.
Gotcha.
Mickey did that with egg whites.
Yeah, I know.
That does make sense.
I've never heard of that before.
So she didn't do it this morning.
No, she didn't do it this morning.
So you had two bites of egg whites and then you gave the old that chicken's out of business.
Okay.
All right.
So is Norway socialist?
We're going to talk about that today because they're minimum wage.
We're going to actually look at a lot of the minimum wage from different countries.
The time we spent yesterday, I thought it was very interesting with what we came up with.
Most business-friendly countries, okay, at the top is one that we'll cover here in a minute.
Minimum wage stats.
Smart cart startup, CAPER, is helping retailers compete with Amazon by digitizing the in-person shopping experience.
Reddit raised another quarter of a billion dollars and double its valuation to $6 billion just because of the GameStop saga.
In 30 days, you go from $3 billion to $6 billion.
You didn't sell any product.
You just have Wall Street Bets help you increase your value by $3 billion.
That's pretty big.
They might have been the biggest winner of the whole situation.
I do agree with you.
Wall Street Bets was really big for them.
Yeah, I do agree with you.
Just Reddit overall.
Salesforce says the 9 to 5 workday is dead and will provide three new ways for employees to work, including the possibility of working from home forever.
Okay.
Our favorite coin, pronounce it for me, please.
Doge.
Dogecoin goes viral.
Has the crypto market lost all sanity?
And the CEO made comments himself that we'll cover here in a minute.
Half of GameStop buyers are first-time traders, never have traded before.
We'll cover that.
The battery.
Kai's got extensive research that he's done on battery and the market, the history of battery.
We'll get into that as well.
U.S. stock is a bubble.
New York allowing indoor sports.
This is a good sign at a certain capacity and they have certain restrictions.
AOC says it was a mistake that Biden doesn't pay off the student loan debt of $50,000.
Twitter says Trump wouldn't be allowed back even if he ran again in 2024 for president.
Dems on House Committee, $15 minimum wage, Gavin Newsom, et cetera, et cetera.
We got a few other things that we'll cover.
And then Mark Cuban didn't play the national anthem.
The NBA said it is a requirement for us to play the national anthem.
Let's go to Gavin Newsom, page eight.
Everybody, if you're listening to this, it's like you're at church.
Go to page eight, please, with your notes.
Go to Psalms 8, line 6, right?
Okay, here we go.
Governor Newsom has two potential challengers for governor as recall petition nears 1.5 million names.
Supporters have until March 17, 2021 to collect 1.495,709 signatures.
That's 1.495 million, 709 signatures needed to trigger a recall election.
As of February 3rd, organizers announced that they had collected more than 1.3 million signatures.
By the way, they've already collected over 1.3 million.
They only need 190,000.
It started in like November December.
That's a scary thought.
That's too quick.
California is one of 19.
They might have been a little like a day or two older.
I think they're up to 1.4.
I think you're right.
Mario, can you pull up to see how many signatures they've gotten for what do you call it?
For recall Newsom?
Yeah.
California is one of the 19 states that allows for citizens to recall elected officials.
According to the California Secretary of State website, the petition needs at least 1.495 million or 12% of the 12 million votes in the last election for governor.
On Monday, conservative commentator Mike Cernovich announced that he would run against Newsom if a recall vote is successful in the state.
Cernovich announced came during a live stream video posted on his Twitter account where he said the question is why I would run for governor and the answer is pretty simple.
In addition to Cernovich billionaire venture capitalist Shamat has suggested that he plans to run against Newsome.
Shamat has yet to publicly announce his bid for governor, but he has been very critical of Newsom and has shown his support for the recall petition.
Is this well deserved for Newsom to be recalled, kicked out, and not be the governor of California?
What are your thoughts?
I mean, we've been talking, you're born in, I'm sorry, raised in California.
24 years.
Your mom is from California.
I know you're from Law, but you got Callie Roots.
I'm a Florida boy, so I'm not really too up to speed on California politics.
But, you know, we've been since the basically start of the podcast, since everything that started with the pandemic, we've been covering what Gavin Newsom has been doing.
And it hasn't been pretty there.
We are, you know, we jokingly called him the U-Haul salesperson of the year.
Everyone's getting the hell out of California.
And it seems like they are getting very, very, very close to this, what is it, recall for the election.
My question is this: just to kind of give the other side of the coin, because it'd be very easy to bash Newsom.
You see, on, you know, even on SNL, they call him, you know, you know, an inflatable sex doll.
He's just kind of like this robotic.
He kind of reminds me of speaking of Michael Burry.
What was who plays Michael Burry in the movie?
Christian Bale, Christian Bell's character in Help Me Out here, American Psycho with the hair jail kind of has that vibe going on.
You tell me.
But where I want to go is this: I can see that.
You can see that a little bit, right?
Just kind of like this soulless sex doll kind of a guy.
Mari, you might want to pull this up if you can.
Gavin Newsom approval ratings in California.
I'd love to see if we can find that data.
Obviously, he's a very unlikable person.
He's getting a lot of hate.
I saw a person just basically mocking him on YouTube yesterday, and it was actually spot on.
I want to know when this election would be and what his current approval ratings are.
Because you might get 1.5 people to be a part of this recall, but if he has high approval ratings in the state of California, it might sort of be a moot point.
Do we have something here?
Is that say 52%?
That's job approval.
Job approval rating.
That's what I'm looking for.
Yeah.
So his job approval rating is 52%.
That's not horrible.
Bill de Blasio's is way lower than that in New York.
So, I mean, if you're amazing.
Are you a little shocked right now?
If you had to guess, where did you think his job approval would be?
In the 30s?
At least.
Maybe the 40s?
I mean, Trump hovered somewhere between 40 and 45, 38, and 45 his whole presidency.
I don't think he ever cracked 50.
Newsome, we talk a lot of trash about him.
Yeah.
And I'll give it up to you now, but he's still above 50%.
So I'm actually surprised to see that's where he is.
So meaning for all the pandemic stuff that he's doing, all the stuff, the U-Haul jokes, there's a large contingency that says, no, he's doing a pretty good job.
California is probably the most liberal state in America.
Okay.
Think about San Francisco.
Think about lots of areas in L.A. Think about Santa Monica.
Think about California's the most liberal state in America.
But not way up north, right?
I mean, that's when it gets a little bit more conservative, but that's the same thing.
Or even closer to the east side of the state near Nevada.
I agree.
But it's probably the most liberal.
It's the highest taxes in America, number one.
New York is, I think, number eight.
The best taxes in America is Tennessee.
So if California was a country, California wouldn't be America.
If California was a country, California would be France.
California would be a more liberal politically, which means 50% rating is not surprising to me because it's like, yeah, that's the country where most of them want more social programs.
Most of them want more of somebody on that side.
So yes, of course, it would be a 50%.
You're not surprised by that.
Zero.
That doesn't do anything for me.
That doesn't do anything for me.
All it does is a simple thing.
Look, right here, there's a guy last year, right, this community right across is called Royal Palm.
Literally 200 yards from us, right?
Royal Palm.
Okay.
One guy, his name is David, I believe.
Do you know how much he sold in the last 12 months in Royal Palm?
How much real estate?
I showed it to you.
Yeah, you said he sold like a broken crazy.
Can you grab the brochure out of my office?
It's the big blue brochure in my office.
You can go to Sam.
Grab the big blue brochure out of my office.
It's going to be a nice advertisement for him.
Big blue brochure out of my office that has Royal Palm properties.
You'll see it.
He was the guy in Royal Palm.
$737 million of homes sold in one community.
Wow.
In one community.
In one year.
In one year, in 12 months.
Okay.
In 12 months, in one year.
Almost everybody you run into here when you talk to them, how you doing?
How you doing?
So where are you from?
Jersey.
Where are you from?
New York.
Where are you from?
Why?
Why would I stay in New York?
I love New York, but why would I stay there?
New York's the only place I go to for a vacation.
Okay, here it is.
This is, thank you.
This is the Royal Palm community.
I think I'm hoping I said the number right.
Okay.
I don't know if I got the name.
Yep.
His name is David.
Okay.
How much did he sell?
$737 million from January 1st to December 31st.
Okay, we're talking about in a two-year period, he sold $737 million.
Why?
People are leaving.
They're leaving New York to come here.
People are leaving California.
You go to Texas, how many people were your neighbors when you talk to?
Where are you from?
California.
Where are you from?
California.
Where are you from?
California.
There are people that don't want to leave California.
There are people that just want to make sure California improves.
There are people that are so deep-rooted, they're like, listen, man, I don't want to leave this place.
I want to stay here.
I just don't want this guy to be my governor.
And I want policies to change.
There is that community that's sick of it, right?
You know, out of the 1.4 million votes that he got for the recall, a third are moderate Democrats.
We talked about it last time.
And it's getting very close.
If it's getting to this point here that this is going to be taking place, it wouldn't be a nice thing for him to take place.
Because many of the Democrats, when they're looking at their lineup of who could be the potential future president, he's on that list.
He's on a list of a future president.
Oh, absolutely.
He's on the list.
Are you kidding me?
He's on a top five.
He's on a short list of somebody that could be.
He looks like it.
He has, yeah, California.
I just, you know, he has got that raspy voice.
He's got a little gruff voice.
But he's a track.
You ever see him giving the answers the way he talks?
Like he knows the game.
He's been in the game.
He looks the part.
He looks the part, but he talks.
The whole game he knows, right?
He's a politician.
He's a politician.
I don't know if this is going to be a good look for him if he ever runs for office.
I don't think this is going to be good.
No way.
I don't think it's going to be good luck for him if he gets the recall.
How many people do you know that signed that recall?
A lot.
Really?
Oh, a lot.
How many people do you know that says, no, that's my guy?
I would never.
A few.
You do.
A few.
Okay.
I actually.
Because you got roots in California.
You know, there are thousands of people there.
Oh, a few.
A few people that say, no, I think it's okay.
I think we should let him go.
He's not as bad as Trump.
He's not as bad as this.
He's not as bad as that.
At least he's not Cuomo where he let, you know, he didn't give the right facts about people being in old folks' home or, you know, and people died, nursing homes.
At least he didn't do that.
It's all about at least, at least.
So there is that community.
They're giving him the benefit of it.
But a lot of people are sick of it.
Do you think there's an underground?
Like the people that are voting to recall him, is it kind of the same underground that started flocking behind Trump in 2016, like the silent majority?
Look, you know, I got a call from one of my mentors, advisors, very successful president of a multi-$100 billion company.
And he's in his 70s.
And we had a great conversation together.
He says, look, in life, here's how it works.
He says, you're going to have battles.
There's going to be little fights that happen all the time with you and somebody, with you and family, with you and a friend, with you and all that stuff.
He says, the goal is to try to get the battles to be done.
Somebody wins, you move on.
Everybody goes about their business, right?
He says, then there's wars.
When there is a war, you have to know that every country has to defend themselves, okay?
I have to defend me, you have to defend you.
And, you know, there's going to be some casualties at the end of the war, no matter what.
If you go to war, there's casualties.
He said, then there's nuclear wars.
When it's nuclear wars, it lasts a long time.
And the amount of blood in your hands is going to be a lot.
Last 12 months politically was a nuclear war.
And the way they went after Trump, it doesn't end there.
It's not like there's no residual effects to it.
It's still going on right now.
It's nothing.
It's nothing.
The residual effects of the last 12 months is not a one-year residual effect.
The residual effects of the last 12 months is a 10, 20-year residual effect.
Are you kidding me?
Let me put it to you this way: the residual effects of the last 12 months could be 25-year effects of a Baron Trump type of residual effect.
Like, you have to know you offended my dad.
So, what they did last year may be like, hey, it's, you know, oh, yeah, so you did that to Trump.
We're going to do this to Newsom.
We're going to do this.
So, so they started.
They started a tit for tax.
They started a nuclear war.
And it's not, you took Trump off.
Watch how long it takes until the next them president.
And what are you going to say?
So they started a nuclear war.
And now they're impeaching.
Who in the world cares about a former president being impeached?
Like, let me say this one word.
Like, okay, it's like saying, I'm going to fire an old employee that I've already let go of.
What are you talking about?
So you understand?
Like, you came, you served your six months, your 12 months.
A year later, I want to change it from that you just did your time and your contract, you wrapped it up.
No, no, I want to change it to I fired you.
What are you talking about?
No one in the world cares about a former president being impeached.
Move on.
He's a former one-term president.
What's worse than being a one-term president?
How many one-term presidents do we have?
He's been impeached twice.
You know what it is to be a one-term president.
What's worse than a one-term president?
Jimmy Carter, one term.
Senior, one term.
There is nothing worse than being a one-term president.
Nothing for a president.
So are you saying they should not even pursue any of the legal?
It's already bad enough.
But since they're doing it, they just have to be prepared for the nuclear war in the world of politics.
Are you saying that they should?
I'm not saying that this is conversational here.
Should they not pursue what's going on?
Because they just started this second impeachment trial, everything that's going on.
Should they or should they not?
It's not should they or should they not.
Okay.
A long time ago, I had to, you know, in my 20s, it was always about, no, but they're wrong.
No, but they're wrong.
No, but they're wrong.
Look, listen, after plenty of books to read and mentors, counsel, all this stuff, dude, you don't need to win everything.
Certain things, you just got to let go of it.
This is not worth it.
This is embarrassing.
Why do you think they're going after himself?
I think it's a little too much.
I think it's like proven a point.
He's the first to be impeached twice.
Do you think there's any part of it where they're trying to make sure that he's barred from running away?
I think that's the big part.
Trying to put the nail in the conference.
100% that's it.
But I tell you one thing.
I talked to Oliver North yesterday or two days ago.
Yesterday.
I talked to Oliver North and I said, who's your number one candidate for 2024?
He said, Mike Pence.
I said, okay.
I said, do you think Trump should run in 2024?
He said, no, absolutely not.
He says, they're going to destroy his businesses.
They're going to go after him.
He says, what he needs to be focused on right now is to take care of his family because it's going to be pretty ugly.
This is Oliver North.
You'll see.
I'm prefer.
Obviously, I'm, you know, and by the way, I'm familiar with Oliver North.
Yeah.
Iran contracts.
Exactly.
That's what he's thinking.
He talks about it openly.
He's a former general.
What was it?
Lieutenant Colonel.
Lieutenant Colonel.
Famous in the early 80s.
When was the Iran contract?
81, 84, like that.
He was famous for a big trial on Capitol Hill.
For those of you who are not familiar, he got arrested.
Five people were not arrested, guilty.
So he was one of them.
Pointexer, I think, was another one.
Of five CIA agents and a couple other names.
This is like the equivalent.
I'm not exact, but like this is a Watergate-ish, Benghazi type in the news type of holy moly, Oliver North on trial.
Yeah, so it was a $30 million money that they got to work with, I think, a country that they were protecting, a country, you know, Nicaragua, but it's a small region of it.
And they took out of that 13, again, you can go verify this 18 million to buy weapons for Iran and give weapons to so it was a very interesting thing that took place.
And this is also on the tail end of the Cold War.
So you have the whole Russia or communism versus capitalism and the ideal ideological fight as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the whole challenge is, you know, Oliver North said, I don't think he needs to run.
I think he needs to take care of his family.
But the point I'm trying to make here was Newsom.
I'm not surprised.
You cause a nuclear war.
So when you cause a nuclear war, there's going to be a few what?
Casualties.
Newsom's going to be one of them.
Period.
Newsom is a casualty because of the nuclear war.
And I think they knew they're going to have casualties.
I think they knew they were going to have casualties.
This, if it happens, you potentially eliminated one of your future presidents.
He's a high draft pick, by the way.
Very high draft pick.
He's the top five candidate.
I see what you're saying.
And the thing with, you know, as with anything, it's a lot of it has to do with optics, optics, right?
So, you know, again, like we said, polished, good looking, you know, kind of looks like Christian Bale's character on American Psycho, hair gel, you know, kind of.
But when he's shutting down all the wineries.
And then he apparently owns a winery and the one his one freaking, you own a winery, bro.
His one winery is open and he's there drinking and a French laundromat restaurant party.
Social distancing.
It's very easy to be like, get this douchebag out of here.
It's just very easy to feel that way.
I think that's the word, though.
I think that's a word to describe it.
And look, you knew folks like that in high school who liked guys like that.
You know, behind closed doors, you're like, dude, just stop.
You're so annoying, right?
Get over yourself, buddy.
You know, you're not as amazing as you think you are.
It's a little bit annoying the way you are.
As a California.
If you're watching this, I'm actually curious.
Right now, we have 178 thumbs up, 233 thumbs up, one thumb down, okay?
I'm curious if you're watching this.
Recall, thumbs up, smash thumbs up.
If you say he needs to get out, we need to recall.
And we need to move on and get a Shamat or somebody else.
No, he's doing a good job.
Let's keep him in there.
Press thumbs down.
I'm curious.
Thumbs up, out, thumbs down.
It's fine.
Let's just keep him in there.
Continue.
You were saying that.
As a Californian, because you keep obviously a closer tab on California politics, who do people in California dislike more?
Newsome or L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti?
It's not even a question on how it is.
I mean, Newsom's on that list, number one, because Newsom's a governor.
It's an unfair, it's like saying, who do people like more, a high school basketball player or an NBA player?
Newsom is an NBA player.
Newsome's playing in the big leagues.
One of 50.
How many mayors you got in America?
Of course, it's a bigger mayor.
Mayor of L.A.
I get it.
But Garcetti, Bloomberg, you know, it's Newsom.
It's not even close.
No, no.
I also think the influence, like, Newsom probably influences Garcetti more than Garcetti influences.
I agree.
Yeah, I agree.
And by the way, Garcetti's a more yes, sir, person.
Bloomberg is not.
De Blasio is not.
De Blasio fights Cuomo.
Cuomo's like, dude, what are you talking about?
Let the Amazon people come and put their jobs here.
No, it's not fair.
It's like, dude, what is the matter with you, right?
So Garcetti and Newsome are on the same page.
De Blasio and Cuomo, they're not on the same page.
Mario, or on the topic, would you find out Bill de Blasio approval ratings in New York?
I'd be curious to know.
51% was what?
No, no, no.
51%.
15%.
51% is Newsome.
Yeah.
Bill de Blasio approval rating.
No way is it at 50%.
I feel like he.
This is also in a 2019 article.
No, no, go back.
Go current.
You know that when you put current there, that was good.
You put current right before approval.
You did that with Newsom?
Yeah.
That's my spelling right there.
I saw that.
I saw that.
A little over 51% March 26th.
Yeah, they don't have it out there.
Okay.
So, anyways, you know, we'll see what's going to happen with this in the state of California, whether he's going to be gone or he's going to stay.
But very soon, we are going to find out exactly the results on this.
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He was still president during the insurrection.
Okay.
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All right, let's continue.
Next topic.
Next topic, what we got is, let's go into NBA.
NBA now requires to play the national anthem after the Dallas Mavericks halt ritual.
Specifically, Mark Cuban decided to stop playing the national anthem in the game.
This is something that the NBA has been doing for a long time.
The league announcement comes after the news that Dallas Mavs ceased playing the national anthem prior to home games this season at the direction of owner Mark Cuban.
The Mavs have not played the national anthem before any home games this season.
A spokesperson told NBC the announcement from Bass seems to contradict the previous statement from NBA spokesperson Tim Frank, who told the NBC News that teams are permitted to run their pregame operations as they see fit.
Through league policy, NBA requires a stand for national anthem, according to the NBC Sports.
NBC Commissioner Adam Silver hasn't strictly enforced the rule allowing players to kneel during the anthem in the NBA bubble last season.
So, you know, Mark Cuban decides to not play the national anthem.
I don't know if, well, we watched the interview together yesterday with the girl from ESPN.
I don't know her name, but she's always on.
Rachel Nichols.
Rachel Nichols.
And he said, look, it's not that I wasn't planning on doing it.
We just didn't know if we were going to do it or now.
We were just kind of listening to the audience.
And some of them thought it wasn't something that represented their community.
They didn't want it to be played.
Others wanted it to be played.
So we just kind of saw what we're up.
And now we're going to go back and play it.
So what are your thoughts about the national anthem and Mark Cuban?
I mean, let me just start off with Mark Cuban.
I know you're listening.
Play the damn national anthem.
I'll say it again.
Play the damn national anthem.
We're here in America.
The flip side to that is, you want to kneel?
You want to do the Colin Kaepernick thing?
Cool.
But play the GOT national anthem.
Tell me why.
Tell me why.
We're here in freaking America.
What are we talking about?
What do you mean by that?
So what do you mean by that?
We're in America.
What's the big deal?
I mean, like, listen, obviously, I'll be.
This is the argument that they're making.
So I'm trying to see what's your argument.
I mean, obviously, I'm, you know, there's certain things I'm a little left on, certain things I'm a little right on.
But where are we in the conversation where no more national anthem, no more American.
The Star-Spangled Banner is a divisive topic.
Okay, cool.
If you want to protest and kneel during the anthem, I'm good with that.
I'm good with the Colin Kaepernick thing.
Raise your voice.
You know, social justice.
I'm cool with that.
But to the point of saying no national anthem, are you freaking kidding me?
Do you know when, like, when did the national anthem really started sports games?
You did some research on that.
World War I. World War I, right?
Okay, so World War II, I'm assuming it was big.
For me, being a kid, I remember I pledge allegiance at school, you know, 1991, the national anthem.
Who sang it at the Super Bowl?
You remember that?
Whitney Houston completely crushed the national anthem.
We were in the middle of Desert Storm, right?
We were at a war.
George W. Bush Sr., I'm George Bush Sr., H.W. Bush, she completely crushed the national anthem.
From that day forward, I'm like, damn.
Like, I get down with the national anthem.
Now, if you, again, if you want to protest, you have the right to protest.
Peaceful protest.
You totally have that right.
You want to put your fist up, you want to kneel, I'm good with that.
But under no circumstance in America today, should it be even a conversation of should we play the national anthem?
Is the national anthem the right thing to do?
If you don't want to be in America, get the out of America.
Paul, what do you think?
Yeah, I actually 100% agree with Adam here.
I was thinking the same thing.
At the end of the day, you do have the freedom to leave.
It's just like at a job.
If you don't like certain things, it's one thing to complain about it.
But at the end of the day, you still decide to be at that job and you accept all the conditions that occur with it.
If you don't like it, go find another place.
You have that freedom, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.
And like Adam said, the national anthem is at the end of the day.
That's kind of a being in America, you're accepting that.
Even immigrants that come here, you're accepting the national anthem.
It's part of the deal.
Any different opinion than what we've heard so far?
Any different opinion, thoughts, Mario, any different opinion than what he just said so far?
I mean, I just give two cents here.
I think it's interesting because no countries are perfect.
I mean, obviously, there's baggage that comes with everything.
And to change things completely, like changing the national anthem and traditions, I know we talked about traditions yesterday of how changing, like people adjust to traditions.
Traditions traditionally don't change based on who's there.
And you've talked about this culture and companies as well of there's a set culture and then people don't change it.
Either they adapt to it or like you guys have mentioned, they can leave.
You know, here's what I would say with this.
So what you said, everybody, what you're saying here is nine years ago, I'm at Malibu at this one private meeting that was taking place and Prager was there.
And then as Prager said, what makes religions work?
Okay, and he's going through it.
What makes people go to, so why does Catholicism work and do so?
Well, why is the Judaism religion, you know, he's going through everything?
He says, because of what?
The word rituals, right?
Rituals.
There's certain rituals.
Rituals, you know, I'm a Christian, but I would go, I prefer to pray in Catholic church.
I think I told you guys this.
I like to pray in Catholic church, even though I'm a Christian.
Some people say you're out of your mind.
Why do you want to do that?
That's me.
I prefer to pray at a Catholic church because to me, I feel a little bit more, it's different to me when I go there.
When you go to a Catholic church, you know, there's so many rituals.
Christians don't have that many rituals, if you think about it.
Non-denominational evangelical, not that many rituals.
Judaism, lots of rituals.
Christians have rituals, don't get me wrong, but not at the level of so then you bring it back and you say, okay, America.
Mario, when we came here, Mario was staying with us for the first couple days, more like 20 days.
But, you know, he stayed with us here for the first couple of weeks, and he's got a nice place now right here, beautiful place he's staying.
I'd like to keep on.
He loves his new bed, by the way.
Yeah, I bet he does.
So, so for about a week, Mario, what song did you hear me listen to for hours?
Amazing Grace.
How many times did you hear me listen to it?
Honestly.
On repeat, a couple hours every night.
Every night, a couple hours.
No joke.
That was your go-to song.
Every night.
Oh, and dinner.
And what happened every time I listened to it?
Do you get emotional?
You have no idea how emotional I get.
Listen to that song.
No, no, but there's a specific song.
There's a specific person.
Anyways, there's a playlist.
I listen to it, right?
And, you know, it kind of gets me to think about how lucky I am, incredible life I have, all the screw-ups in life, all the dumb stuff I've done, and I'm still forgiven.
I still have the life that I have, and you've still been giving me the life that I'm living today.
I'm the luckiest man alive, right?
So national anthem.
What's the national anthem?
Starspring.
You know, the greatest country in the world fought for this.
People that came before us, they did what they did.
And we have the ability to sit here.
And we're going to forget about that?
And you don't want to play just because you don't want to play because people are offended.
Okay.
So he said the reason why we didn't want to do it is because certain people in our community didn't want to hear the national anthem.
Certain people.
Let me get this straight.
In Dallas, Texas, who did that poll?
Who did that market research?
You know how sometimes my employees would come to me and, you know, salespeople would come to me and say, a lot of people are not happy with this.
Really?
Name me one.
They said, really, give me how many people they are.
And then it's always John and Bob.
Oh, okay.
So it's two people.
So don't say they.
It's two people.
How many agents do we have?
18,000.
Two people say it.
We can't sit there for two people.
So you're living in Dallas.
Most people in Dallas are what?
Love America, conservative, hardworking, entrepreneurs, business owners.
Your ticket prices are not five bucks.
If you are listening to a community that you said they don't want the national anthem to be played, what is the average income of that community?
Let's do the numbers.
Why don't you make your ticket prices?
Why don't you make your ticket prices available to that community?
Why don't you make your ticket prices $10?
Why do you have ticket prices so expensive?
If it's so much about the community, stop selling $100 tickets, $200 tickets, $500.
If you're so concerned about the community.
But if somebody's buying a $500 ticket to come watch your game, $200 ticket to watch your game, for two, I'm taking my kid, and I do that once a year and, you know, twice a year, I'm making $50,000, your $100,000, your $200,000 a year to buy a $200 ticket.
If not, by the way, I've never been to a basketball game in my life.
I went to a basketball game as a kid one time, and the star of that game was Sedale Treat and Tony Smith.
You probably don't even remember those names.
Yeah.
Early mid-90s.
But the point is.
Nick Van Axel.
The point is, Nick Van Axel was a star that came a little bit after that.
But here's the point I'm trying to make to you.
If you say your community doesn't want the national anthem to be played, show us the report.
What percentage of your community doesn't want to play it?
Because let's just say that number is 10%.
Say that number is 20%.
I can find 50 other things that 10 or 20% of people are offended by you do.
What are you going to do?
Change again?
Yeah, exactly.
So every single time a small minority community comes out and says, well, we're going to have change every single time?
I'm part of the minority.
I'm Middle Eastern.
How many Middle Easterns are in America?
I'm a Syrian.
I'm part of the minority community.
I don't have a four-year degree.
I don't have a two-year degree.
I am a minority.
I came to the States, green card, got my citizenship a day after I was in the military.
What are you going to do?
Everything I complain about, you're going to say, oh, my gosh, Patrick's upset.
No, you have to work my way up, have a voice, get my, okay.
So, I don't know.
Look, there's two different types of people.
You know, people compare him and Trump together on, you know, Mark Cuban and Trump and all this other stuff.
By the way, yesterday you asked me a question, said, if Cuban ever ran, would you vote for him what I tell you?
Depends on who he runs against.
And I gave you the roster.
What did I say when he said?
What if he ran against Bernie?
You'd said a Cuban.
If he ran against Biden, you'd say Cuban.
Cuban.
If he ran against Trump, you said, I don't know what you said.
No, you didn't ask Trump.
You said you said Pence.
Oh, Ted Cruz is where you kind of were.
I said I would be a little bit in a middle because Cuban at least understands business, but the difference is the following.
What concerns me, he's obviously another future candidate that wants to be a business.
It's a movement right now of entrepreneurs becoming president.
You respect Cuban.
Oh, but there's things you don't.
How do you not agree with?
How do you not respect the guy?
First of all, how do you respect the guy?
You go to Indiana University.
The guy's a ridiculous numbers guy, an incredible sales guy, learns to use his numbers and sales together, becomes a billionaire, buys the maps, brings the first championship.
Like, there is no, I don't respect the guy.
I disagree with this assessment of this situation.
That's all it is.
There is no, I don't respect the guy for what he's done in his life.
He's created a lot of jobs.
He's brought a lot of different things that he's done.
But I don't know.
I just think we have to, this whole cancel culture, if it changes the rituals and what America stands for, we're going to lose our values and principles.
Then America is no longer America.
No.
Because America is just a land.
What is America founded on?
If it is, let's just kind of keep reminding ourselves that this is what America's on.
Sometimes we need, and you know what affirmation is?
Affirmation is what?
Hearing the same thing, what, over and over and over again.
I had an affirmation list with 30 affirmations.
People would come to my house.
Friends of mine would come to my house.
They'd be sitting in this place.
They'd take the affirmation.
They'd go to the bathroom.
They'd say, Pat, you got all these laminated stuff on the wall.
They would read it.
They're like, man, I'm fired up because I had these affirmations.
And I can tell you some of the affirmations until today.
We have to listen to a national anthem.
It's an affirmation.
It's an affirmation.
It's who we are.
It's who we are.
And we listen to it over and over and over.
And my favorite service of the year is Christmas.
You go to Christmas, you hear this story at the end.
Dudley would put up the candles.
He had one at the front.
All of us would walk up.
We would light up our small candle.
Then we'd go into our community.
Then we'd light up whoever's around us, 5, 10, 15 people.
And all of a sudden, you got 5,000 people with candle.
They would turn off the lights.
He would say, hold it like this.
Don't let the candle drop on the floor, et cetera, et cetera.
And you would look at it like, man, this is awesome.
Every year, you would go to your ritual.
It's a ritual.
It's a reminder.
One person can light up a country and inspire them.
So I don't know if this is a good thing he's doing himself.
I'm glad the NBA took their position, by the way.
Phenomenal job.
Shout out to the city.
Kudos to the NBA.
Kudos to the NBA for taking that position.
It seems to just use the Cuban Trump analogy.
And this is one of the things that always frustrated me of Trump.
And this is what Cuban's doing right now.
It's the people are saying.
They.
They're saying.
People are saying.
And I got to give credit.
I don't remember the interview that Jonathan Swan, I think he's not British, New Zealand or Australian reporter.
He sat down and did the one-on-one.
He says, who's saying?
Tell me who's saying.
Yeah.
Tell me who's saying what people are saying.
It's so like, I love what you said.
Who's they?
Well, Bob and John.
Okay, so two people are saying.
So that's what people are saying.
Yeah.
But by the way, who did the research?
We all do it.
When do we use that?
When we're cornered.
Yeah.
Well, I heard.
Yeah, but we all do the same.
But when we do that, when we do that, we can still be held accountable.
Yeah.
But if you have an argument, guess what?
Then you say, here's who said it.
Okay, fair.
I didn't know.
Then let's talk about it, right?
But if you say, they, people in our community, are not happy, what percentage of your people in your community, who is upset about the national anthem?
According to.
Such an easy way to BS your way out of a national.
I'm not a fan of it.
People are saying.
Also, the way in the interview, how he put it of, oh, we didn't decide.
We're kind of just seeing how it goes.
But now we'll go back to the very safe answer of like, of not trying to play.
Why he could be a president one day.
Diplomatic.
I think I can also yesterday on the interview with Adam and Robert.
Robert was mentioning that a lot of people don't have financial education.
At the same time, I think a lot of people don't know the meaning of the United States flag or what we have done.
I mean, I come from Colombia originally.
So for me being here, every time, even that I'm not an American U.S. citizen born here, I always stand up and give my respect to the flag just because all the great things that I have gotten for coming to America.
So I just think that a lot of U.S. citizens in high school, I went to high school here in the United States college, they don't teach us the value of what United States of America means.
Yeah, and this is a guy that gave.
You know, he fought to come here from what age did you come here from 14 years old?
14.
14 years old.
You got your bachelor's degree?
Yes.
On your own dime.
Who paid for it?
I was working 40, 60 hours a week while going to school.
And what degree did you get?
Bachelor's and what?
I have a bachelor's in accounting and a bachelor's in corporate finance.
How old were you when you got the bachelor's in those two?
I finished at 21.
And how much family you had here while you were in?
I have no family here.
No family.
I mean, that's the story.
Willing to go through.
By the way, I do want to respond to a couple people that commented that are against us.
I do want to talk about that.
So here's one of the comments says, do you know the second stance of the anthem?
It's offense to the people who build the country.
R. Stothart.
I'm going to come back to you because you had another comment as well.
Adam, I don't agree with you politically, but I listened to your financial videos and wanted to say thanks for sharing your wisdom.
Matthew Elliott, okay, thank you.
Chris Hunter, Pat, what are your thoughts on General Grimes of Fire from Mandalorian?
Also, what are your thoughts on Brian Rose running for mayor of London?
I support Brian.
I sent him a message.
I said, Brian, I wish you nothing but the best.
He and I communicated.
That's Chris Hunter, but this is the question.
Stephen Kinonios, Francis Scott Key, who wrote the anthem, was a slave owner, and most people didn't know that last, that to last five years.
So that's what drives people crazy and want to change the America the beautiful soyboy mafia.
Hashtag.
So your community.
Let me give the answer to that.
My perspective.
Just so you know, Assyrians were slave owners.
Blacks were slave owners.
Jews were slave owners.
You go back 200 years ago, 300 years ago, every culture owns slaves.
Every culture owns slaves.
There is not one that never owns slaves.
Africa owns slaves.
They do many small, till today.
There are many countries that own slaves.
What are we going to do?
So now we have to get rid of all the history of everybody that at one point had it.
Is that what we're going to be doing?
So what if right now somebody said this one large insurance company that's one of our competitors and they've been around since 1868?
Okay, it's based out of New York.
Hence, okay.
So did you know that back in the days, they sold life insurance to slave owners?
So one of my guys said, we should use that when we're going up against our competitors and bring that up.
I said, you're never going to do that.
Why?
Because if they did it, other people did it.
That was legal back then.
It was stupid.
It was not good.
It wasn't anything that we agree with today.
But back then, it was what?
Legal.
Okay?
Very simple.
Legal.
And if it was illegal back then, no one is breaking what?
The law.
Okay?
Very simple.
So does it mean we endorse it?
Of course not.
Does it mean we support it?
Absolutely not.
Does it mean we sit there and we say, oh my gosh, you know, who cares?
No, that's not what we're saying.
It wasn't a law back then.
So large insurance companies, what do you call it?
They sold insurance to slave owners.
Should we shut all of them down?
All the banks here, all the banks in America, every single one of them, Bank of America, Bank of Italy, used to be Bank of Italy.
So every single one of the banks in America finance and help open up accounts for slave owners.
Should we shut down all the banks?
Should we shut down all the banks?
That's what we should do.
So every book you ever read that's an old book, okay, we're talking about 200 years ago, that are classics.
Oh, somebody in their family, should we get rid of that book?
So is this the direction we're going to go?
So a crime everybody committed, now we should bring it back and because of that, embarrassed in public.
Is that the direction we're going?
Again, that is a form of a nuclear war.
Because if you constantly go and say, but you did this 79 years ago, but you did this 200 years ago, look at what happened to Kevin Hart.
Who didn't want to see Kevin Hart do the Oscars?
Who didn't want to see him as the host?
Everybody wanted to see him be the host.
But no, back in 2014, here's what Kevin Hart tweeted.
Are you kidding me?
And then they went through what they did with Kevin Hart.
No.
So to me, it is part of the tradition.
It's what we've used.
Everybody and anybody that we know on their resume, there is something bad, including yourself, Kinyon.
I bet you if I were to go and do hire somebody $50,000 and I told them your project is to go investigate to see what bad things you did, I guarantee we would bring out some things that you wouldn't be happy with.
I mean, we're human.
We're not perfect.
That's the point.
None of us are perfect.
We make mistakes.
That's just the way it is.
What's that one song?
I'm Only Human, Born to Make Mistakes.
It's one of the best commercials, by the way.
Go ahead.
And I think another thing there is kind of you're judging the past with today's perspective and today's values and principles that we have or our viewpoints right now, which just doesn't make sense because times change.
Things that are okay in the past aren't okay now and vice versa.
Things that are okay now weren't okay then.
So you're just you're confusing the times and how you look at things.
And in that case, there's going to be wrong things with everything.
I mean, again, we're human.
We're not perfect.
We make mistakes.
And at different points in time, those things are okay or those things are normal.
Watch this.
I can't hear my.
Okay, thank you.
So what is February?
Black history month.
Black History Month.
Okay.
America, do you know what percentage of Americans are African American or African American?
13%.
Exactly.
Good number.
That's the number.
13.4%.
Do you know what percentage of our company are African-American out of our 18,000?
30%, maybe?
22%.
Between 20 to 22%.
50% Latino?
50% Latino, 20% to 20% African-American, right?
Okay.
20% white.
Where are we at?
You guys are up there.
Okay.
Like top five.
No, You guys.
But it's top five.
But here's the point I'm trying to make to you.
Does this mean that we don't have 50% of the company to be white, that we're racist against?
Like, do you understand what I'm saying?
Like, what are you going to do every time?
You're racist against somebody.
Every company, you know, like, but this son, this month is Black History Month.
So the teacher asks my son, Which character do you want to write a report about for Black History Month at the school that he's going to?
So him and my wife are having a conversation together.
And my son says, because my son has read a lot of books on Martin Luther King.
Any book I get that I can give on Martin Luther King, I want you, yeah, Tico.
I want him to read it.
So he says, I want to write about Martin Luther King.
Jen says, why don't you try somebody else?
Because everybody else is doing Martin Luther King.
He says, okay.
He comes back.
He says, you know what, mom?
I want to do it on Rosa Parks.
He said this yesterday.
He said, okay, son.
So he's doing his report on Rosa Parks.
How does he know about Rosa Parks?
He's read multiple books on Rosa Parks.
Why?
Because we want to teach him the history of America.
We don't sit there and say, don't read this.
Don't read this.
Read this.
Here's what happened.
This is the bad.
Dude, I went and seen the real bus of Rosa Parks.
I went to the bus where it was in Gearborne.
It's in Ford Museum.
Eric and I drove as we were driving here, and he got me a lot of crap for this, was because we were driving through Alabama and I saw we were about to pass Montgomery and then Selma was further south.
So I was like, let's just drive through Selma and the Pete something bridge where they, the famous bridge where they marched over it.
We drove over it and kind of just checked out the area.
So absolutely, there's a lot you can learn and there's a lot you can, you have to kind of know of it to not repeat the mistakes.
What's the quote?
Those who don't read history repeat history.
Yep.
Adam.
I think even just what we're doing right now, you're giving your perspective.
You're giving your perspective.
I'm going to give my perspective.
We all have different perspectives.
It's important.
I'm not saying you're 100% right.
You're 100% wrong.
It's important to talk things out.
One thing that stands out to me, even on the podcast, I remember when we were during the middle of all the protests, George Floyd, they were going down and removing a lot of the Confederate statues, ruining them all.
And you asked me a question, should the Confederate statues be removed?
And listen, no fan of Confederacy whatsoever, like not even close.
And I give a very emotional response.
And I, hell yeah, take them down.
Get the hell out of here.
And people are like, well, what do you mean, take them down?
I'm like, get them out.
Fuck them.
And then after cooler heads prevailed, I listened to some other perspectives.
I rethought my perspective.
I reanalyzed my stance of this.
I said, you know what?
They should go in a museum for history.
If you want to learn, there's a Confederate museum over there.
We can't cancel the past.
We can learn from it.
If you don't learn from history, you're destined to repeat it.
So I remember on another podcast, I gave a reform my answer.
And I said, well, you know, I thought about it and I'd like to reverse course.
And, you know, I don't think they should just remove everything, but I don't think it should be out there in the public to be grandstanded on.
Like these people weren't heroes at the end of the day.
They were traitors, but it is part of our history.
So put it in a museum.
You know, if you want to learn about it, go for it.
So what's important is to have a conversation, to hear your thoughts, to hear my thoughts, to hear the BLM social justice thoughts, to hear why, you know, the South will rise again, hear their perspective, talk it out.
I did an interview with Daryl Davis.
The most important thing you can do is respect somebody's opinion and be willing to listen.
You might disagree, but hear them out.
And when you can talk to somebody and you can have an open dialogue, that's where you'll find some compromise in the middle.
The Cantra culture, up, get out, you're out, go, up.
But that's where we are, though.
That's where we are.
It's a very dangerous location.
Unfortunately, that's where we are.
I told Robert Kiyosaki, I said, we are living in the walking on Egg Shell Society.
This is the walking on X Shell era.
Robert F. Kennedy just got canceled off of Instagram.
If you want to put him up, permanent ban.
Robert, all the way to the right.
I see Robert, Mario, all the way up to the right.
The link.
There you go.
Yep.
Right there.
Click on that.
Okay.
So Instagram on Wednesday took down the count of controversial anti-vaccine activists, Robert F. Kennedy.
We removed this account for repeatedly sharing debunked claims about the coronavirus or vaccine.
Spokesperson for Facebook, which owns Instagram, said in a statement, Kennedy, the son of the late former U.S. General, U.S. Attorney General, U.S. Senator, and presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy has repeatedly spoken out against the vaccine.
He has lobbied Congress to give parents exemptions from state requirements that mandate their vaccine their children.
Look what an insane sentence that is.
He has lobbied Congress to give parents exemptions from state requirements that mandate they vaccinate their children.
That's supposed to be controversial.
Let me read it one more time.
That's supposed to be controversial.
He lobbied Congress to give parents exemptions from state requirements that mandate they vaccinate their children.
Mandate.
horrible that's that's supposed to be like a read the next sentence though The lifelong Democrat downplays his anti-vaccine views, though, by saying that he is actually in favor of safe vaccines and noting that all of his children have been vaccinated.
There you go.
Kennedy's Facebook page with more than 300,000 followers was still active at the time of the publication.
The company spokesperson said that there were no plans to take down the page at this time.
Children's Health Defense, the nonprofit group Kennedy chairs that expresses skepticism about the health benefits of vaccines, said it could not immediately comment on Instagram actions.
Facebook has struggled for years to crack down.
Him and I had a conversation about this a month ago.
He called me about this a month ago because he was already getting challenged.
Let me tee this up for your response, if you will, because there's two stories going on here.
Obviously, big tech, you know, canceling people's voices, and then obviously vaccine.
You held a vaccine debate with Robert Kennedy Jr. himself and Alan Dershowitz.
This was about three, four months ago.
Million views, everything.
What were your biggest takeaways from that debate?
What do you recall from that?
Look, it's two lawyers.
Robert is known as being an incredible environmental lawyer.
Alan's a lawyer.
He's been a, what do you call it? A huge defense lawyer.
Huge defense lawyer.
Constitutional lawyer for 51 years at Harvard.
Obama took his class.
He's defending Trump these days.
He's defended OJ.
Super fair.
His resume is ridiculous on what he's done.
Okay.
Look, I like a good debate because I learn.
I sit there and I say, okay, this makes sense.
So, hey, if you're doing this vaccine, do it after your kid's three years old.
Okay, cool.
The risk is when it's 18 months to 36 months.
Okay, that's good to know.
If you're going through this, it's purely the option.
What is scary is the fact that you can't even have the conversation today.
Like, it's like a, oh, that guy said anti-vax.
Okay.
Every single vaccine that we've had to get, we've gotten.
Me, my wife, our kids, everything.
I've been over-vaccinated because I was in the army.
When you're in the army, you're like, what do you call it?
You're a guinea pig.
They test on you.
Same with Galera.
Yeah, you signed saying weird things could happen to you.
Obviously, a lot of weird things happened to me after that.
It all makes sense.
Yeah, I think it's a scary era we're going.
And all of this started off with one guy being taken off of social media.
Alex Jones.
That's where this all started.
That's where all this started.
Well, someone like that, rightfully so.
Like, what's the line that you should cross?
What's the line you cross where it's like, all right, you've just gone from free speech to completely lying or giving false narratives.
Like, you could say what you want, but you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.
What's the line, right?
I mean, this is the same thing that the slippery slope people have been debating for years.
I don't disagree.
I don't disagree, but you mean to tell me like we can't have technology right now that says on the bottom, like you guys got billions of dollars.
You mean to tell me you can't do a technology right now at the bottom says misstatement, okay?
And it just comes up.
That's all you have to do.
So imagine you do video.
That's all they had, bro, over Trump's every single tweet that he did.
No, but what I'm saying to you is, no, it wasn't.
It was just a blanket one.
Everything he said, it was blanket.
CDC this.
It was all blanket, right?
The impeachment is not this.
Or the electoral college has begged to differ.
But you just have to show, according to give us the top 100 sources, credible, okay?
And then say an accurate statement.
According to Statistica, this is the stat.
Great.
Yeah, it's awesome.
So I don't like, oh, shoot, we were wrong.
Great.
So are you saying that someone can say whatever they want as long as they're fact-checked at the bottom?
Well, yeah.
What I'm trying to say is if we're going at this level of advancement, just give us a source at the bottom, technology, YouTube, whoever it is, and say this is wrong.
Here's what the answer is.
Great.
Now we know.
There's a form of accountability and embarrassment, quite frankly.
Oh, shoot, I hate saying wrong things.
Oh, my gosh, my apologies, guys.
This is what it was.
So it gets people to kind of be a little bit more careful at throwing just general statements out there.
Gotcha, right?
Okay, so I don't know.
I'm not comfortable with anybody just being taken down.
But nowadays, for a guy who says he lobbied to get parents to have the ability of an exemption against mandated vaccines, like that sentence is a...
But it's also labeling.
He's an anti-vaxxer.
Well, no, he was questioning vaccines.
His argument was in 1972 when I got the shots or my kids got the shots, it was three of them.
Today it's 72, you know, 60-some shots, 70-some shots kids are going to get.
Why do we go from?
The world hasn't gotten way dirtier, way more dangerous.
Why do we go from three to 70 shots that a kid should get?
That makes no sense.
That's what he's arguing.
Why do we go from three to seven?
That's the correct number that you find to be.
I'm not an expert.
I'm not a doctor.
I'm not a scientist.
All I'm saying is let's keep debating the topic of vaccines.
That's all I'm saying.
Oh, we have a doctor here, Dr. Lode.
I mean, your brother's going to be a doctor.
I'm sure you have these conversations with your fat brother.
CJ?
CJ.
Shout out.
No, I think.
Where are you at with this guy?
I definitely think me, myself, my mom never vaccinated us, or we've never been vaccinated.
Really?
Yeah.
You're not vaccinated.
Not at all.
So none of you.
None of us.
Except my older brother and my older sister, they had to get some shots as they were going to med school, actually.
Interestingly enough.
So they were required, and at that point, they chose to get the vaccines they needed to.
But I think, I definitely think, I definitely agree with what Pat's saying, that there's arguments that should be had or debates and kind of seeing how good or how is it.
Because obviously, there's a certain risk with not getting vaccinated, and then there's a counter risk of getting vaccinated.
Can you guys do this?
Be the devil's advocate right now.
Let's try a devil's advocate argument.
Not that it's your position.
Make the case why it makes sense to take him off of Instagram.
Let's all do the devil's advocate thing.
Okay.
Why did it make sense?
Be the other side.
Spreading misinformation that it's going to make people not get the COVID vaccine.
Therefore, more people will die.
Okay, good.
What else?
Is he specifically talking about the COVID vaccine or just vaccines?
Vaccines, period.
But this year it also became COVID vaccine.
Why does it make sense to take down Kennedy?
Can I go conspiracy theory?
Do it.
Yeah, go for it.
Say it.
Well, if you have an agenda and you're going to profit off something, and again, I'm not saying this is my personal belief, but if you have an agenda, you know, big pharma is a huge, huge industry.
They're lobbying, you know, is the highest lobbying in Washington, D.C. You're basically cutting off your money.
So if people are now cutting off the money supply, then that obviously affects my business.
And I'm the one paying for your campaign, paying for this.
So there is ties and connection to all that.
Again, whether it's true or not, none of us know, but this is where you really go into this shady, dark area of control and all that.
And if you start doing the censoring and all that, like who's fact checking the fact checkers, right?
That's also another.
Yeah, but I want their argument.
You're saying FTM, follow the money.
Follow the money.
That's the number one rule in journalism.
And it's the time it's always stood the test of time is follow the money.
Okay.
Adam, do you have a devil's advocate?
I mean, I agree with him on the follow the money thing.
I mean.
Why does it make sense to take him down?
Give the other side argument, not what you think.
Give the other side of the argument.
He was taken down.
They did the right thing because dot, dot, dot.
Misinformation.
Okay.
Whose money are you affecting?
Conspiracy theories.
Conspiracy theories.
Where are you going with this?
No, I'm actually, I'm not going anywhere with this.
So I'm just really curious to know the other side's argument.
It's a scary situation when you don't agree with somebody.
Who's making the call?
All right.
That's it.
You're done.
You're banned.
You're off Instagram.
You're off Twitter.
Who are the people in the room having that conversation?
But do you know?
Is there like a council?
Like, all right, it's up at the top now.
Who are the three people making that decision?
What are their political affiliations?
That's where it's going.
Where are they at?
Who's in the room?
It's like the minority report where you have a middle manager.
Is it the top?
Look, it's kind of like going to Zuck.
Who's making the shit?
Let me talk to Kiyosaki today.
You believe save that money.
Yeah.
He doesn't.
He thinks it's a waste of money.
I asked him to say it.
He said, I will not say it.
Okay, great.
So save that money, right?
Okay.
No problem.
So if you were to say, make the argument for the other side, cash is trash.
Make the argument why cash is king.
We can do that.
Why are they give me an argument?
You're in the boardroom.
We have to take them down.
Why?
Because of that, What is it?
Okay?
So you're stuck.
What is it?
Is it just misinformation and conspiracy theory?
He's obviously perpetuating what they feel is the wrong information.
You know who's perpetuating the public.
Can you pull up CNN's biggest advertisers?
Oh, I'm sure it's all the big pharma.
Hello.
CNN's biggest advertisers.
Biggest advertisers.
Kaiko.
That's what year, though.
2018?
2018 is a different.
Okay, let's just, let's just look at this.
Otsella, who's O Tesla?
O Tesla.
The Premalac.
Humila Otes.
I don't know what the hell they do, but I've seen that commercial a billion times.
Okay.
It's like the commercial where the sleeping, the butterfly comes in your room.
I don't know.
I should also look up lobbyists for even Biden or Trump.
Yeah, I don't, I don't, and by the way, it's not like CNN took them down.
Instagram took them down.
Facebook took them down.
Otesla is a pill that can help you achieve clearer skin.
O Tesla is a pill that can give you clear skin.
So it's kind of like what is that one other pill that helps you with skin?
Accutane.
Accutane.
Okay.
Interesting.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'm curious.
You know, I'm curious to know what is it just purely money?
Is it just purely anti-argument?
They're putting points here.
They are putting their points here.
They're writing their stuff.
You know, our bodies heal themselves.
We got a fellow Norwegian, Benjamin.
Kai, I'm from New York.
They're putting their points here.
Say something to him in Norwegian.
Benjamin Satto.
Bashir, Bashira.
Okay, let's continue.
Let's continue here on another topic that we got.
Countries, most business-friendly countries in the world.
Let's pull that up.
Most business-friendly countries in the world.
Okay, if we look at the most business-friendly countries in the world, Kai, do you have a number on which one it is?
Ease, the Wikipedia one, that one.
Okay, so the easiest countries in the world to do business in.
By the way, look at this.
Every year they've been number one, except for 16, 15.
They were second.
I'd love to, before you say it, poll the audience who they think the most business-friendly.
Maybe someone who gets it.
It's already up, though.
It's already up, guys.
Great job.
Great job, everybody.
It's already up.
They can't see that screen, though.
Maybe they can.
Take a look.
They can see it.
They can see it.
So, by the way, look at this.
Singapore, Singapore was number one for like 10 years straight.
Do you see that?
Do you see the Singapore run?
And now it's been New Zealand the last four years.
So it's a dogfight between two people.
New Zealand and Singapore.
New Zealand.
And who was the other one with that?
Yes, really only two people.
And Hong Kong is, you know, top three, top four.
They're doing good things.
Denmark, South Korea, U.S. is number six.
United States is consistently in the top five.
However, however, look at the ranking.
It used to be number three.
So it went from three to four to five to four to seven to eight to six to eight to six.
Okay, so it was a little bit higher, went to seven last year of Obama, went to eight first year of Trump.
Okay, then it dropped off to six, then eight, then six.
So that's regulation right there.
Okay, Georgia.
Why wouldn't Georgia went from 100 in 2006 to sixth and seventh place?
That's a big jump.
That's reform, right?
That's reform, and that's a government change.
In U.K., about the same place.
They used to be fourth in 2011.
Now it's eighth.
Norway used to be fifth, now ninth, used to be 11th.
So relatively around the top 10 is where they are.
Norway.
Look at China.
Where is China?
China's towards the bottom of the list for highlighted in yellow.
China highlighted in yellow.
That's 31.
Yeah.
Used to be 91.
That one's jumped so you can see it.
It's jumped.
Well, because they allowed capitalism to take its course.
It's moved more towards capitalism as opposed to the government communism, but you can build your business and do what you're doing.
Yeah, so then so then go all the way at the bottom.
Let's see what's all the way at the bottom.
Like what countries are my people in Kazakhstan, top 100?
Armenia, Chile, Italy.
Look at Italy, 58th place.
Mexico, 60th.
India, 63.
But look how much they've come up.
Yeah, they've got 130.
They're coming up as well.
Keep going a little lower.
Mario.
Let's see what we see right there.
Qatar.
Greece, 79th.
Wow.
Go lower.
See if anything stands out at the bottom with nations that we know about.
Guatemala, Mario.
You guys are doing good from Guatemalan people.
What are you doing in America, man?
Keep going.
Brazil, 124.
Argentina, 126.
Used to be 77.
So they're going the other way around.
Iran, about the same place.
Yeah, it's been pretty consistently not good for business.
Ecuador, okay, same place.
Keep going lower.
Let's see what is like names that you see.
Names.
Nothing minor marketing.
Surprising, yeah.
Iraq, Afghanistan.
Where do you see Iraq?
172.
Okay.
Afghanistan, 173.
Guys, breaking news.
It's pretty tough to do business in Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria as well.
If you're thinking about starting a business there, you're going to want to reconsider that.
Same with Venezuela's down there, too.
188.
The worst country to do business.
Our friends in Somalia.
Somalian pirates.
Okay, go to minimum wage.
Minimum wage countries.
Before we leave this, can we just go to the United States?
I have one question for you to get your perspective.
Mario, go back up to you.
Go back to that.
To ease?
There's one question on the United States, and we can move on to the next topic.
Top of the list, top five, Mario, top five.
Why would the ease of doing business, United States, be better more between 2008 and 2015, 2016?
And then when Trump comes in, it gets a little worse.
I thought it would be a little different.
It's gone from 3-4 to 7-8.
Who was president in 2015?
Trump.
2015?
No.
No, that's Obama.
That's Obama, buddy.
Obama.
Okay, I got it.
He's been in office in 17.
So Obama raised it to 7, and it had him been at 7.
But what do you mean?
He was 3-4 his whole term is what I'm saying.
It was 3 before him in 06.
He doesn't get credit for 20.
I'm saying 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13.
13.
17.
He was 3, 3, 2.
He started for 4.
What year did he start?
What year did he start?
08.
Okay, what was it before he started?
Three.
Yeah.
Okay, what year was it before it started?
So he doesn't get credit for three, but he took a three and he finished it with a seven.
He took a country that was third best for business in the world, and by the time Obama was done, it was number seven.
You're saying the beginning, it was number three.
No, you were trying to make an argument to look, you know.
No, I'm saying it was consistent.
It was between three and four the whole time.
Prior to his last term, it went to seven.
It was three and four.
Did you pay attention in math class?
Pat, I'm looking at the freaking numbers here.
This starts as a three and it's a three the whole time.
Is this math analysis?
Is this basic algebra?
I was a mathematician.
I won the math aletes.
I mean, I know what I'm doing here.
He was a three to a four the entire time.
Have you not seen his Nobel Prize?
What's funny is Adam was actually a 3.5 GPA guy.
Were you a 3.6, 3.5?
I want to get it.
Yeah, 3.6, yeah.
3.6.
Coom Laude?
Were you really?
Yeah, in college, yeah.
Were you being serious?
You should have seen mine.
Legit.
Legit.
Okay.
So, yeah, if you start off and you're.
But Trump.
He's still doing this.
Trump was at 7 through an 8 his entire term.
It's not like he went backwards.
He went up.
Listen, he started off with a 7.
Yeah.
When he left, it was a what?
Six.
Six.
Eight.
No, six.
His last year is a six.
He went from seven, seven, eight, eight, eight, eight, six.
So he took a seven.
You don't change rules and guidelines, and all of a sudden.
The country doesn't change his life.
It's bureaucracy.
Be patient.
It takes time.
Oh, I see what he's trying to say.
I think what he's trying to say is if Trump would have gone a second term, maybe that would have gone to three.
That's a good point.
Or 13.
That's a very good thing.
Or 13.
Or 130.
So funny.
I'm just saying I'm shocked that Obama's numbers are that good.
I thought they'd be worse, is what I'm saying.
Obama's numbers are terrible.
What?
Are you serious?
You're serious?
Is he serious?
Obama doesn't get credit for what happened in the beginning.
He can't reverse things over.
He was already a three prior to Obama.
And he kept it a three or a four.
What do you see?
He kept it at a three or four.
He gets elected in 08.
By the time he's done in his first term, it's a five.
By the time he's done with his second term, it's a seven.
I mean, you're like crashing.
I thought 08 was all the way the ball.
Oh, okay.
Obama.
Obama's a terrorist.
Do you want to cut?
Obama's a funny thing.
I mean, let me translate for Adam.
Do you want to cut the last two minutes?
Remember when Bill Parcells took the Jets to the Super Bowl, or the Patriots to the Super Bowl, right?
And they won the Super Bowl with Bill Parcells.
The next year, Pete Carroll, with the same team, they didn't go to the Super Bowl.
Pete Carroll doesn't get credit for Bill Parcell's work.
Ooh.
He went down.
Ooh, that's the glasses talking.
That was the glasses.
That's the glasses talking, right?
The Superman glasses.
I feel like a Tom Brady is a little bit more.
I'm not even going to send that right there.
Okay, you want to go to the batteries?
Let's talk about Babylon.
So let's talk about batteries.
And some of you guys, by the way, before you're like, oh my gosh, who cares?
If you're enjoying the conversation so far and it's one of your first time that you're joining us on this podcast, smash that subscribe button.
FYI, I looked at the numbers at the beginning.
Remember how I asked, put thumbs up if recall for Newser.
Thumbs down.
You know what the number was after five minutes?
What was the number?
200 thumbs up recall, one thumb down.
200 thumbs up, recall.
They want to recall the guy.
They want to recall the guy.
Let's go to the batteries here.
The battery is ready to power the world.
Okay.
The flow of batteries is currently dominated by Asian countries and companies.
Nearly 65% of lithium ion batteries come from China.
Let me repeat that one more time.
65% of lithium-ion batteries come from China.
By comparison, no single country produces more than 20% of global crude oil output.
65%.
This is an absolute monopoly coming out of Asia.
Rechargeable lithium-ion batteries were first commercially used in held-hand camcorders in 1991.
Laptops soon followed.
A decade later, batteries enabled the rise of tech titans such as Apple Inc.
Powering smartphones and wearable devices, then made their way into electric vehicles.
The basic technology throughout remained pretty much the same.
Lithium ions move through a liquid from the cathode to the anode and back again.
This, however, was just the beginning.
After a decade of rapidly falling costs, the battery has reached a tipping point, no longer just for consumer products, it's poised to transform the way the world uses power.
The gains are less likely, are likely to continue.
Electrical vehicles, vehicles are currently the main source of demand for battery sales.
As demand grows and the costs fall further, batteries will become even more disruptive across industries.
Battery industry scored a win at General Motors, company which said it hoped to phase out gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles from its showrooms worldwide by 2035.
The first commercially available, etc.
Okay, so Kai, tell us what's going on with this batteries and why should we be paying attention to this?
So obviously, just looking at the 65%, it's a shocking number that that's coming out of China.
Yes.
So first thing I looked at then was which countries have the biggest lithium iron ores or the mines, right?
Surprisingly, who would we think is on top?
China?
Exactly.
Okay.
However, China is not on top.
On top, you have Bolivia as number one.
You have Argentina as number two.
You have Chile as number three.
By the way, those are some of the three worst countries to do business with.
So you look at it on that list.
They're largely undeveloped.
They're not doing anything with Argentina changed it.
They used to be up there.
They went a different direction.
Three South American countries.
It was deemed as too risky for financial investment.
So Bolivia, Argentina, Chile, continue.
Fourth one, none other than the USA.
How many Lithuania lithium ores do we have open?
No idea.
One in Nevada.
Guess who hinted at creating a second one in Nevada?
Who?
Musk.
None other than Elon Musk.
Because he wanted independence, not having to rely on others.
However, number five is Australia, and then number six is China.
China has 4.5 billion tons.
Bolivia has 21 million tons, or they're both in millions.
However, the thing that is different is out of all the countries, China is the one that's pulling the most iron ore or lithium ore out of the ground.
Other countries aren't.
So that's a concerning.
However, another part of it is Australia, they exported $1.9 billion of lithium, right?
Most of it went to none other than China.
Exactly.
So they're getting it.
Why should we be concerned about this?
Why should we be concerned about this?
The concern about it is, in some ways, just that they're marketizing, they have the control of it.
Obviously, we saw now with the disruption in supply chains that we have the struggle of getting the chips that we needed and self-sustaining kind of how we're building things.
Another part of it is with the increase in the electrical vehicles and the batteries, I mean, batteries moving forward are just going to be more important.
The reason oil has been a strong commodity as long as it has is it's easy to transport.
You put it in a tanker, you drive it wherever you want, and you drop it off.
It has the same energy value and kind of efficiency wherever it is.
Gas, you can send it in pipes and it stays the same.
Batteries, or especially electricity, you know, the high-voltage ones, they lose a lot of power when you're sending the electricity.
So, what you send from A, if you send 100%, you're not receiving 100% on the other end.
So, batteries are the closest way we can do that.
And that is why, if you look at Tesla, the biggest thing they're doing is battery development and figuring out how you can store the energy, transport the energy, and get the most out of it later on.
So that's, I mean, the future is going to be in batteries because we need to store the energy.
We need to figure out how to do it as efficiently as possible.
And obviously, China's leading the front on that end.
The future is in batteries, you just said.
Let me tee you up and tee you up.
You know how they say, you know, you only remember, you know, 20% of what you see and 10% of what you hear and whatever the thing is, but people remember how you make them feel.
How should people feel about this battery stuff?
Because I don't speak robot.
I don't speak battery.
I'm hearing like, you know, I'm hearing a lot of.
I'm a math guy.
Yeah, exactly.
For a mathematician, I'm hearing a lot of batteries.
I'm hearing a lot of lithium.
I'm hearing a lot of mining.
How should we feel about this?
I mean, there's a reason for concern, especially if things are being more kind of split and companies aren't being able to get as much from China.
It's very easy, Adam.
Here's how you got to look at it.
So what percentage of the cars?
You guys got to turn off your thing because I keep hearing your audio.
You turn off your speaker because I keep hearing typing.
I hear it.
Okay, thank you.
So what percentage of cars are going to be battery-driven cars in the next 10 years?
A lot more than they are today.
50% was projected by 2040.
20, 40, 50% in the U.S.
No, 50% of cars.
Worldwide, yes.
Okay.
So 50% worldwide by 2040.
And if Will Farrell has it, it's going to happen sooner than that.
If it's up to Will Farrell.
I know you guys are having a service debate.
But watch this.
So if that's the case by 2040, who has control?
The structure of car companies.
Okay, so you remember when people said, why is Elon Musk shaking hands in China?
Why is he doing?
By the way, his business is growing in China.
He's done a great job being a diplomat, working with other countries, trying to get that part going.
There's a same thing going in Germany as well.
However, let me tell you what this means in a whole different way.
If this is the case and we need import-export, guess what country cannot have sanctions with U.S.?
Guess what country cannot have any kind of sanctions?
China.
China.
So those sanctions need to be lifted because businesses behind closed doors, such as GM, the Teslas, everybody else is going to be like, listen, we need China.
They want 65% of it.
You're shutting them down.
You're hurting our business.
We want to create jobs.
You're increasing the cost.
You got to open it up.
So look how it's like the story.
Okay, let me tell you the story.
So yesterday I was on a podcast.
Girl asked me and said, you know, the podcast was called Women, something about women.
What was it?
Women in business.
Women in business service, something like this.
So she said, what can women do to be more successful in business?
I'm like, look, I can tell you from my perspective on what any person can do, man or woman.
Let me tell you a story.
And this is exactly what China did.
So there was a king.
This king has a daughter.
He wants his daughter to marry a prince, but this daughter ends up dating a local guy.
And they get together and he finds out about it.
When the news gets back to the king that the daughter ended up hoking up with a local guy, the king sends his troops to go do what?
Kill the guy.
So they go get the guy and everybody tells him, listen, man, you're about to get killed.
His people are coming after you.
You're going to die today.
They're going to kill you.
They want to make a public example out of you.
This guy panics.
He's like, oh my gosh, what are you talking about?
This is crazy.
He says, well, you got to figure something out.
Do run away.
He said, I can't run away.
This is where I have everything.
He said, I have a plan.
It's okay.
So he on the side was a psychic, okay, where he would like do your, what do you call it, like your readings and all this other stuff.
So they come to kill him and says, look, before you kill me, I have some news that I have to tell the king.
The king has to know this.
And it's bad for him, but he has to know this.
As a psychic, I have a vision, and I've seen it.
I saw it yesterday.
He has to hear the news.
So what do they do?
Well, the king, hey, we have to take you.
He wants to say this.
So the king says, come on here.
Before we kill him, I want to see what you have to say.
He goes to the king and the king says, What do you have to say?
He says, Well, I had a vision.
I was reading and seeing where you were at and what's going to happen with your future.
My prediction is you're going to die the day after I die.
Okay.
So the king says, What do you mean?
He says, Whatever day I die, you die the next day.
So the king, who's an extremely superstitious guy, says, Dude, we can't kill this guy.
We got to make sure we give him the best life.
So the king brings him in, has him married the daughter, okay?
And he says, Take care of him.
What ends up happening?
The guy outlives the king, and the king ends up dying.
In this situation, China's the psychic.
China has made it impossible to sanction them.
China has made it a monopoly to say, I dare you to sanction us.
Listen, what are you talking about sanctioning us?
You're going to need us long term.
And they're sitting there saying, you taught us capitalism.
We brought it in.
Everything you did, you allowed us to take all your trade secrets.
We're already so competitive.
It's so hard for.
Listen, we're the number one.
You know, we're going to win.
We're the future of the world.
We're the future of capitalism.
We're the future of business.
Every innovation is going to come from us because you taught us.
But it's too late.
So this entire battery game is a monopoly game for China.
Congratulations, China.
You have won the game because that's the direction the world is going.
Big victory for any countries in China.
There's no reversing 65%.
No.
Listen.
Imagine you're playing a football game.
The score is 65 to nothing.
Third quarter, second quarter.
You're going to have to do Buffalo Bills comeback.
Yeah, we got to get Tom Brady on the scene.
Tom Brady.
Exactly.
Matt Ryan.
So that's kind of where they have such a long, big lead.
Who's going to come in and try to compete with these guys?
Because if you think of it also as the market, obviously the market cap for batteries and the need for it is going to expand, but they're just going to grow with it.
So the world is moving towards batteries, and China's already there saying, come to my wheelhouse, baby.
What is this controlled by?
What is that controlled by?
What's past phone controlled by?
What's the watch controlled by?
You're saying batteries are controlling big tech.
Batteries, I mean, they're the energy of it.
Guys, we learned something today here on the Bet David podcast.
Batteries.
But I think that's where investment has to play a large role.
I mean, you talked about it's not like they're the only ones with actual lithium, but which is the good thing.
That's the great thing.
Which is a great thing, but you have to invest in that.
And we're talking right now, we're talking about $1.9 trillion relief bill.
It's not like we don't have money.
It's how we choose to spend our money, and we have to choose to invest in our future.
And we're not doing that.
When are you running for mayor?
I mean, it doesn't.
Paul should wear those glasses more.
That message, the way you just said it.
Yeah, Newsome, I'm coming for you, buddy.
Yeah.
Ice Cube providers.
I'm Paula Skarsiga, and I endorse this message.
Just say that once, Paul.
Say it once.
I'm Paula Skarska, and I endorse this message.
Beautiful.
I like this.
Paul is approved.
So can you go back to the top countries to do business with and look at the top minimum wage?
Because we've been talking about minimum wage.
We talked about a little bit with Norway.
And the debate is: is Norway a capitalistic nation, a socialist nation?
So let's go to the top minimum wage countries.
Is that the one or no?
This is one of them, yeah.
Okay, so if you number one, is that Luxembourg?
Luxembourg, yeah.
Okay, what website is this?
WorldpopulationView.com.
Okay, go to the other one.
Go to the other one because that number seems lower than what Australia is.
Luxembourg has the highest minimum wage in the world, 13.78, $13.78.
Okay.
Well, that would only go to Luxembourg.
Oh, it's the same website.
Okay, so go back to the website he had.
Luxembourg, Australia.
What was the other website that said 1260 Australia?
12.
So I saw one that says 19, but it's mostly 19 Australian dollars.
Oh, I got it.
I got it.
So Australia, $12.14, their minimum wage.
France, $11.66.
By the way, you're looking at socialism right there.
Then you got New Zealand, $11.20, which was number one on business friendly, $11.20.
Then you got Germany 1087.
Then you got Netherlands 1044.
Belgium 1038.
UK 1034.
Ireland 962.
Canada 952.
FYI.
Russia is $2.40.
Okay.
Can you go a little lower, Mario, just to see?
The U.S. has the 12th highest minimum wage in the world.
At $7.25.
At $7.25.
It's important to say at $7.25, right?
Okay.
So if U.S. goes to $15 an hour, which numer uno in the world, which by the way, looks like it's going to happen because of the $1.9 trillion.
The Democrats controlled the House, the Senate, and presidency.
And, you know, it's going to be easy for that to be done.
Minimum wage goes to $15 an hour.
If minimum wage goes to $15 an hour and all the other countries we're beating are socialistic countries, what does that say about America?
Makes you think to say if there's an area you don't want to lead is minimum wage.
It's like, look how amazing we are.
We pay the highest minimum wage.
Go ahead, Adam.
There are two things with the minimum wage.
I see Australia is number two.
I went to Australia 2009, so a little over 10, 11 years ago.
And I remember, obviously, I got to Australia.
I landed.
I meet up with a buddy.
Let's go get a beer.
Let's go get a beer.
Let's go have a drink.
Cool.
All right.
I'm in the land down under.
I'm about to have a beer.
And, you know, I'm staying with my buddy.
So, you know, I do the right thing.
I pick up the tab.
I pick up the check.
Cool.
Gotcha.
Guys, yeah, I know.
Breaking yourself.
You picked up the tab.
I picked up the tab.
There it was.
Guys, have you ever seen Adam pick up the tab?
Yes.
Actually, yes.
A cup.
Once.
But what is his percentage?
I mean, with me, it's very good.
But how many rides?
Use the driver.
My oversized.
So that's the exchange you guys.
But listen, that doesn't apply to everybody else.
No.
I'm just lucky we roll with PBD and PBD hosts everybody.
How many times have people favor Pat?
Anyway, where's my egg sandwich?
Anyway, Mario's also very cordial.
What's my point here?
What's my point?
Where I wish we had the button here.
So I go to pick up a tab.
It's 100 Australian bucks, whatever.
And I go to leave a tip.
And the guy goes, no, no, no, you don't need to leave a tip.
They're already good.
I'm like, what do you mean?
In America, you got to tip 20%.
My bill's $100.
You leave the waiter, you know, bartender $20, whatever.
He goes, no, they're already very well compensated.
I said, what do you mean?
They go, yeah, they make $20 an hour.
I said, you're telling me the waiters and the servers and the bartenders make $20 an hour?
You don't need to tip them?
No, you don't need to tip them.
I said, very interesting.
So that's just a quick story and we can get a feedback.
But here's my segue back to Pat.
Because I would consider myself much like Mario, an entrepreneur.
I've helped build businesses, but I'm not the business owner.
I'm not the founder.
I've built up a business and made a business very successful, but I'm not the owner.
Same thing we're doing here with Value Attainment.
But we were reading yesterday about the $15 minimum wage hike that's going on here and potentially in America.
And Pat said, how do you feel about that?
I said, you know, look, I've come out vocally.
I'm not in favor of a federal mandate of a $15 minimum wage.
I think that's absurd across the board.
In certain states or cities, New York City, San Francisco, Miami, whatever, cool, I get it.
You can't live on less than 30 grand a year if you're going to have a life.
But if you're in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, if you're in, you know, Bumble F, Oklahoma, like businesses, you know, I'm not in favor of that.
So that was my perspective.
And I asked Pat your perspective.
And genuinely, Pat says, I am so sad.
I feel so bad for these businesses.
You have no idea how bad I feel for the, I'm genuinely hurt for these businesses.
And my thing was more logical, zero emotion in my answer.
I said, well, I just don't think it makes sense economically, financially.
Pat came from a place of obviously logic, first and foremost, but deep sympathy for these businesses.
And I said, I don't feel that sympathy that you're feeling.
And you said, well, that's because you've never started your own business.
I said, what do you mean by that?
And you said, when you start a business, you know, you, maybe this is where you want to pick up, but you had very strong feelings about this minimum wage.
It was more emotional than logical.
How'd you feel?
Well, you know, listen, go to the example I gave you when I said, Adam, let's just say you and I fight.
No, because you went to say, when a person starts a business, don't they already know that you may lose it all?
Is that what the conversation went?
I said, you put your, you know, you risk everything to kind of put yourself out.
You know what you're getting yourself into?
Yeah, you know what you're getting yourself into.
And I said, yes, except when the rules change, that's when it's unfair.
So if you and I were to fight, there's a big fight coming up.
Patrick's fighting Adam on June 28th.
Major announcements.
You're a better boxer.
I'd pay for you.
You're a better boxer.
You're a better boxer.
You're an eight.
I'm a six and a half.
I have no clue how to box.
But you're a much better boxer than me, much better fighter than me.
And the rules is, we're going to fight what?
Boxing.
But I'm a ridiculous kicker.
If I kick you, you're over.
Three kicks, fight's over.
Okay?
That's me.
I'm a nine.
You're a one when it comes down to kicking.
Five minutes before the fight, they say rules have changed.
You cannot kick.
Who wins that fight?
I won the fight because I don't even have to come close to you.
I can't have a distance from you.
My legs are longer than your punch.
So I won the fight.
Okay.
So you're married.
You're on a small market that your father passed down to you.
You and your husband run it together with your kids.
It's been around for 80 years in a small city.
And you have Walmart right across the street, but you've still been able to survive because Walmart sells milk for $3.59.
You sell milk for $3.49.
They raise the minimum wage.
Six of your employees that work for you, you pay them $7.20.
Okay.
Eight of your workers that work, you pay them $7.20, some of them $10 an hour, but not $15.
So they raise the minimum wage to $15.
You have to raise the milk price from $3.49 to $4.29.
Walmart keeps it at $3.59.
You have to raise the employees' minimum wage from $7.20 from $10 an hour to what?
$15 an hour.
Walmart doesn't care.
Walmart loves that.
The government officially eliminated you without Walmart becoming the enemy.
A $15 minimum wage makes the small business owner go out of business without Walmart even needing to compete.
Right.
Walmart says, cool.
Pop it up to $15.
It's like the fight happens and the referee said, fight hasn't even started.
Referee says, Adam, you won.
And what are you talking about?
We haven't started.
Adam won the fight.
It's over.
That's what just took place right now.
Think about it this way.
Okay.
Minimum wage.
What industry pays the most employees' minimum wage?
Let's look at it.
Do we have that data or we don't have that data?
No, we haven't.
Okay, pull up the data.
Pull up the data.
Kai, where's that data?
Wait, there's one which is the, no, we might actually not have this one, but we have the chart.
If you go here, the one that says here, the template says here.
Where's here?
Okay, right there.
Okay, good.
You'll see here are, this is for leisure and hospitality.
That's what I'm looking for.
I'm looking for, can you search Mario, which industry has most minimum wage employees?
By the way, the number is staggering.
The difference between first place and second place makes zero sense.
Does our audience want to guess?
What industry?
Oh, you can guess.
While we're pulling this up, you're about to be shell shocked.
Which industry has most minimum wage?
Let me see if I can find it, Mario.
You do it as well.
Employees.
See if you can find it.
I know I searched it yesterday.
And it was a, okay, no.
Oh, my gosh.
If we can show you this, this is.
Okay, I found it.
Here we go.
I find it's a statista website.
Can I share it with you, Airdrop, or you're not on a Mac?
You're on a Mac?
Okay, Airdrop.
Which Mac are you on?
I have.
It's Valutainment Media.
Valutament Mac?
Is that the one?
Yeah.
Okay.
Mario, see if you receive it.
You got it?
Okay, I'm going to press it again.
Okay, open it up, except.
Watch this.
Look at this.
Look at that.
Not even close.
Get rid of that.
You forget.
Yeah.
How come it's not.
Oh, there you go.
Okay.
Go up a little bit.
Are you kidding me?
Because I have it over here?
Okay, well, anyways, you see that first one?
I'll just tell you what it is.
You see the first line?
The first line is leisure and hospitality.
You know what the second one is?
Education.
977 by 149.
Seven times higher.
Okay, so let me get this straight.
Leisure and hospitality has the most employees making minimum wage.
And which industry got crushed during COVID the most of the last 12 years?
Leisure and hospitality.
You just crushed these guys.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You just destroyed them.
And if you go to that last chart, you can see what jobs have lost the most.
Mario, bring up where the jobs are.
Another interesting part, though, is that that is also the industry where people are most tipped.
In leisure and hospitality.
So that obviously makes up for their wages in that sense of that there's the minimum wage and then there's the tips they receive as well.
Everybody took a hit with that.
The customer, because food price is going to go up.
Tips are going to go down.
Tips are going to go down.
Food prices are going to go up.
And what's that?
Here.
The one, the tab to the left for that, Mario.
Yeah, that one.
Leisure and hospitality, they are down the most in January.
I mean, they've been crushed the entire pandemic, but even January, they lost the most jobs.
So, you know, it's like, imagine you're running a small restaurant.
You're like, okay, oh, we're going to come back.
Oh, my gosh, we have $38,000 in our account, babe.
We're going to make this work.
Guess what?
Minimum wage.
So then imagine that meeting with you and your employees.
Your waiters and your waitresses, you're having that meeting with them.
You got four of them sitting in front of you.
How do the waitresses feel about the minimum wage being raised from $7.25,000 to $15?
How do the waiters and waitresses feel?
I mean, how many are sitting there?
There's four of them?
Four of them.
Well, now, congratulations.
They've been with you for five years.
There's only three of you now.
Someone's getting fired.
Actually, give me their feeling.
How are they feeling about going from $7.25 to $15?
Exactly.
They're not against it.
They're for it.
Are you kidding me, dude?
What are you talking about?
Do you not remember what, like, I had a job for $3.25 at Haagen-Daz.
When I got a raise to $5.15,000 at Bob's Big Boy, I'm like, dude, I'm going to be rolling a nice freaking Telestar pager, and I'm going to be able to send the hello text.
Double beeper.
You know, all this stuff.
It's going to be sick, right?
From $3.75, $3.25 to $5.15.
If your waiters and waitresses are sitting there for them, they're going from $7.25 to $15 minimum wage.
You think they support the minimum wage?
Hell yeah, they do.
Hell yeah, they do.
You think you, the business owner, that now have to sit there and say, guys, we got to do something about this.
Do you think there's a division now between the employer and the waitress?
I mean, compensation-wise, at that point, I feel like they're also dipping into tips at that point.
You can't, though.
Legally, you can't do it as well.
You can't do that legally.
Can you?
No, no, no.
You can't.
You mean?
You want the restaurant to take tips off?
You can't do that.
One restaurant gets reported that the owner keeps tips, you're over.
Nobody works for you.
Obviously, you're not taking the 100%, but you're making up for that.
You cannot do anything.
Really?
You cannot do anything.
It is the fastest way to not have waiters and waitresses work for you.
Is what?
Is when you keep tips, a percentage of the tips.
It's the fastest.
You have twice as much as the beginning.
It doesn't matter.
That's not how things work.
That's not how things work.
So guess what?
They pulled it.
A typical burger, you go to a nice restaurant.
A burger's what?
15, 16 bucks?
A nice restaurant.
I'm not talking about like you go to Burger King.
Nice restaurant you go to.
Like what Gary's?
Is that Gary's, what is that place we go to here right here?
We were there yesterday with the Krispy zucchinis.
Gary's Gary's Farmhouse right here in Boca by Meisner.
His burger is $16, $17.
They raised the minimum wage.
His burger is now $22.
$23.
Ain't nobody paying $22 for a burger, homeboy.
Soda is a buck fifth.
Oh, you will pay for it.
No.
You will pay for it.
I mean, the business is not going to take the hint.
You won't pay for it.
No.
Whoever's covering your check will pay for it.
Of course.
But someone's paying for it.
$22 burger.
At what point is that just ridiculous?
It's not about instead ridiculous.
You have no control.
This is not something they're asking you for your vote.
The Senate, the House, and the President's passing this law.
And they're putting it in the $1.9 trillion bill.
You don't have a choice.
You don't have a say.
Just take it.
This is what's happening here.
Okay.
So yes, that's what's going to happen.
Leisure and hospitality.
As if they didn't have one black guy, they just got a second black guy.
I saw something on PragerU on their Instagram.
They did a little bit where it's like, all right, guys, congratulations.
There's four of you in the room.
And major announcement, minimum wage has been increased up to $15.
So let me tell you what's going to happen to the four of you.
John, congratulations, you have a raise.
Sally, congratulations, you have a raise.
Nancy, congratulations, you have a raise.
Bill, pack your shit.
Time for you to go, bud.
You got to go.
So the four has gone down to three.
And the rest of you will just be doing more work for $15 an hour.
And congratulations on everybody on their new jobs.
And get the hell out of here.
Yep.
By the way, somebody just said here right now, they said PBD.
It's called Gratuity and they do it all the time.
Dante, I know, I get that.
And this one person said, Florida has had a $15 minimum wage.
Florida has $15 minimum wage in a couple of years.
It's a done deal anyways, meaning the $15 minimum wage, right?
Yeah.
You must have missed yesterday's podcast, though.
You must have missed yesterday's two days ago podcast.
I said, states like Florida, Texas, California, New York, forget about it.
$15 is mandatory.
What are you talking about?
$30,000 a year for a job.
That's how much you're making on $15 an hour.
Just times it by two.
This isn't about Florida.
America's bigger than Florida, California, New York, and Texas.
America's bigger than that.
All of the flyover states that everyone forgets about it.
My concern is the small markets.
My concern is the small markets.
You know how when people say things like the argument is, well, do you think it's fair that a company like Walmart came and crushed all the small businesses and put them out of business?
Yes.
They didn't do it by themselves.
They did it with the help of the government.
Regulation.
Yeah, they did it with the help of government.
That's how they do it.
They didn't do it intent.
They got some help to have something like that take place.
So, yes, I am with you, and I hope some of these businesses find a way to survive specifically in the leisure and the hospitality.
We got 15 minutes left, 12 minutes left.
Oh, let's see what we want to cover that we haven't covered yet.
Do we want to go market New York opening?
Salesforce.
Salesforce.
Let's talk about Salesforce.
Let's talk about Salesforce.
So Salesforce is on what page?
Tell me what paid Salesforce isn't for.
Everybody, turn your syllabi.
Bibles to page number four.
I think this is a very interesting topic.
Okay.
Hang on one second.
I don't know if we're going to have time to talk about your favorite thing, Dogecoin, but Dogecoin.
Salesforce says the 9 to 5 work day is dead.
They will provide three ways for employees to work, including working from home.
Salesforce on Tuesday announced that its employees would have the option to work from home remotely full-time, even when it's safe to return to the office.
The new guidelines, which Salesforce is calling the work from anywhere, offers employees three options.
Flex, fully remote, office-based.
Salesforce says the decision to offer new ways of working was based on employees.
Well, wellness survey the company had been sending around since the onset of the pandemic.
Okay, so guess what?
They sent a what?
A survey.
Something Mark Cuban ought to do.
Something Mark Cuban ought to do.
For employees who work within the flex option, they'll report to the office between one or three days each week for tasks that are more challenging to do over video calls such as team collaboration, customer meetings, and presentations.
Salesforce said it's most of its employees worldwide would have a flex schedule, an immersive work schedule, workspace is no longer limited to a desk in our towers.
The 9 to 5 work that is dead, the employee experiences about the 2000s.
Here's the big part.
Pay attention here, though.
Ping pong tables and snacks.
That's a shot straight at you, VT.
You're number one.
VT.
It is a shout out, VT.
Brent Heider, the president of the Chief Police People Office of Salesforce, said that Salesforce.
Okay, so what do you think about this?
What do you think about the direction Salesforce is going?
Do you agree?
Do you disagree with them?
Well, this guy, Mark Benioff, has clearly proven himself to be a leader in the business community.
I got a lot of respect for this guy.
Salesforce, you know, they start trends.
They don't just kind of follow them.
They've come out and said, WFA is a lifestyle now, baby.
WFA work from anywhere, and you have three options.
Who's in favor of three options?
We're in favor of three options around here.
What do we got?
What do we got?
You got this flex schedule.
You come in the office a couple days of the week.
You work from home a couple of days a week.
Do what you got to get done.
You got the fully remote.
We never even seen your ass.
You're just, you're working remote.
You want to get a big-time job?
This guy actually lives in Indiana.
Typically, we couldn't get this guy in here, but or a gal.
We're going to have him work remote from Indiana.
Let's bring in some talent.
Let's pay them what we got to pay them.
They're working fully remote.
And then there's obviously office base.
But the beauty right now is we got options.
You got options.
Options that didn't exist per se before this pandemic.
So basically, Mark Benioff, CEO of Salesforce, is saying, listen, the nine-to-five is dead.
I think we can agree right here.
Nine to five is a very old school mentality when it comes to work.
Show up, you know, sit at your desk at nine o'clock, take your lunch at noon, be done by 12:30.
You know, after that, you got to, you know, the people, what do we, what's the joke that you make?
The 459 crowd, what's the joke that you make for them?
459, they are standing up and stretching.
They are out the door.
We got blueberries.
We're running wild here.
But the most beautiful thing that you can do, and everyone does it here at Value Tainment, is you show up when you show up, you leave when you need to leave, and you GSD, you get your shit done.
Okay.
And for the nine-to-five crowd, you know, who you're making your salary, you're making your 30, your 40 grand, whatever, whatever, whatever.
The people who get stuff done, they don't necessarily abide by nine to five.
You come, and as long as you enjoy what you're doing, you'll work from anywhere, you work remote.
And I just think it's impressive that he's giving the people the options now.
And I think that's the future of work.
What do you think?
I mean, we've seen this in Silicon Valley, and I think to an essence, I'm agreeing with what Adam's saying here of the options.
It also depends on obviously the work that they're doing, some things you can't do, and some things you can do remotely.
Towards the end, he also mentioned that it obviously widens their pool for talent, which is another thing.
But I also think that if this is truly the way things are moving, then virtually, how would you as somebody stand out more as opposed to like in an office?
I mean, you're a CEO, you're a founder.
How would somebody that's one place where I can see an issue?
Is like, how do you efficiently stand out or become more of a linchpin if you're just kind of so?
Here's my question for you.
So maybe we ought to forever only watch video games through Zoom.
Not video games, sports, sporting games, like NBAs.
We should not go to games anymore.
Why?
Why do we go to the game?
Why don't we just watch it from TV?
What's the difference from going to games than actually watching it from TV?
Maybe we should drop school and no longer have to go to school.
everybody just goes to school from home on a Zoom.
Maybe we should do that.
Maybe we should do that.
I don't like that.
Wait a minute, why not?
What's the deal?
Maybe moving forward, church should only be from home, you know, not going to an actual place, a sanctuary, a church.
Maybe we should just do it through Zoom and somebody preaches and you just kind of, you do worship from, you know, from home and not go to church.
And we just kind of do, maybe, maybe Super Bowl, there should be no fans in there.
You know, maybe all-star game, there should be nobody in there.
You know, where LeBron says, I see no reason for us to have an NBA All-Star game.
Fans are not going to be there.
Maybe everything we should do, we shouldn't be around each other anymore.
I think that's a bad idea.
Maybe we should do that.
Maybe that's the direction because we don't really need human interaction.
We can do it through Zoom.
I mean, talking to my dad over a phone is the same as seeing him face-to-face, right?
I mean, that's what it is.
What's the big difference?
I mean, who cares about a hug?
Who cares about a handshake?
Who cares about how you're doing?
That's not that valuable, you know?
Who cares about sitting down here having this kind of a conversation?
We should do this from a Zoom.
You should stay home.
Why are you guys here?
We should do a podcast from home.
You shouldn't be here right now.
We shouldn't be doing it this way.
Why do we even come over here to work?
People forget this is human beings you're talking about.
How the hell do you build a culture working from home?
How do you do it?
How do you build a culture?
Why do you go to a concert?
Ask somebody who went to a Michael Jackson concert, what they'll tell you.
They talk about it till today.
Ask somebody who watched Michael Jordan play a game, score 45 points on a Sunday that everybody else was watching on TV and they were there.
Ask somebody who was at a game when Reggie Jackson had three home runs in a game Mr. October.
What did it feel like when you were in there versus somebody that watched it on TV?
Ask somebody who was there when Duck Floody threw that touchdown for Boston College.
What's the difference between that and the highlights we watch on TV?
Look, I'm not sitting here saying certain industries this works for.
Okay, I have a chief information officer, a guy that works with us.
He says, Pat, here's how engineers are.
Very good.
A guy I trust.
He's very, the way he explains things is my style.
I like it a lot.
And for engineers, I get it.
Yeah, they're wired in a different way.
Everything else, I don't know.
It doesn't apply 100% to every industry.
This is not a black and white across the board everybody.
You can't do it that way because you can't build a culture that way.
For example, video game.
If you want to have a video game competition, can you do it from your house?
Sure, fine.
Can you do a poker tournament from your house?
Okay, fine.
Is it different than you watching a World Series, everybody sitting at the table?
Not the same.
When you're watching them talking to each other, all this, I can't see your eyes.
It's a very different story.
We human beings are not robots.
We human beings have emotions.
We human beings have feelings.
We human beings have different senses.
And those senses are only being used when you're around what?
Others.
You can say all this stuff you want and give me a great pitch on it that this is the direction it's going.
Everybody can work from home forever.
Fine, do it.
It could work for some companies.
Can't work for everybody.
And then the idea of culture.
So if you were to say, what is the biggest company in the world today that people talk about culture?
What's the company?
That's culture, Google.
That everybody.
Netflix?
Netflix.
Oh, yeah.
Reid Hayson said, I'm not a fan of this.
He's not a fan of working from home forever.
Why not?
When you think about culture, does anybody ever say the Salesforce culture?
No.
They have a great product.
They have a genius run at a company.
But when you think about Netflix, what do people say?
They have a great culture.
What did jobs say about culture?
What did growth say about culture?
What did anybody that ever built an incredible company say about culture?
Are you kidding me?
How do you build culture through Zoom?
How do you do it?
There's nothing like face-to-face building culture.
So I'm not sitting here saying I disagree.
I'm not sitting here saying I think that is the direction we're going.
I think some of the industries, yes.
But if you want to build a culture, it's going to be very, very difficult trying to do it all from home.
We have some people right now in the company, like all we do is Zoom.
We don't do trainings anymore.
Really?
Yeah.
They're being left behind by others who are doing face-to-face.
They can do what they want to do based on the guidelines or whatever the state offers.
We're just going to do Zoom moving forward.
We're not going to, I'm going to go out there and live over here and I don't even need to be at my office.
Fine.
You know what we've noticed happened to their business last six months?
Gradual decline.
Then the people that are together seeing each other office all, and we know what we notice with them?
Gradual increase.
How do you measure that?
You know, you have certain players in the NBA that you can't measure their statistics.
You can't measure Draymond Green.
You just cannot measure him.
But how much does he do for the game?
A lot.
You can't measure a Patrick Beverly.
Okay?
But how much does he do for the game?
A lot.
You can't measure a lot of the stuff Rodman did.
And it's not just rebounds.
He didn't score.
But what did Rodman do?
Oh my gosh.
None of that stuff has a leader's bulletin.
How he had Carl Malone drop four times on the same walk back, you know, after, you know, you know which one I'm talking about.
Finally, he got so upset, annoyed, and then Carmel couldn't make the shots because all he kept thinking about is how annoying Ku is.
Dennis Rodman is.
So the point I'm trying to make, the intangibles, you cannot discredit the intangibles just because the intangibles don't show data.
You have to pay attention to it.
And I don't know if a lot of people are paying attention to it.
This is too early.
This is too early for us to jump to conclusions saying this is the one way to go.
That is the one way to go.
We still haven't seen the side effects of it.
It's still going to take us a year, two years, three years for somebody to have a definite philosophy.
These are all testing philosophies.
COVID's only been around for a year.
It's not even been a year.
I mean, of course, it's a lot of time.
We're in the middle of it right now.
Things are going to change.
A year since the first death, let's just say.
It's been around a year.
It's 12 months.
It's one year old.
Yeah.
Shutting down is a year old.
We've not experienced shutdown before.
So more of a follow-up.
Yeah.
But isn't this, you know, the truth is always somewhere in the middle.
You know, not, you know, doing Zoom nonstop and not showing up in person is obviously a ridiculous, non-human, it just doesn't make sense.
But only going to work, everyone doing that, can be oftentimes inefficient.
That's why I'm saying I'm in favor of this flex option.
Like you guys, like you guys put on big events, you guys have meetings, PHP, obviously value attainment.
We're here.
But you guys also utilize a lot of Zooms.
Zoom has helped your business immensely.
I never discounted Zoom.
No, that's what I'm saying.
So like there is truth is somewhere in the middle here.
Zoom to me is speed.
Zoom to me is not culture.
So remember how everything to me is award.
Like if you want to talk about people who like to control people, why are they controlling them?
Control and trust, right?
Lazy is what?
You know, boredom.
You know, you got bitterness is what?
Lack of creativity.
You're not creating anything.
You're not part of a community.
Okay.
When I think about Zoom, I think about speed.
Speed.
That's all I think about.
I don't think about culture.
I don't think about culture.
But those are all important elements to a business.
I don't disagree that Zoom is important, but it doesn't.
Culture is probably the most important, but speed is pretty damn important, too.
is very important, but if there is no, okay.
So have you ever had a long distance relationship?
Yes.
What do you say to a person who says, I love her, but we see each other once a quarter?
What do you say to that guy?
Once a quarter, that's ridiculous.
What do you say?
We see each other once a month.
What do you tell them?
Bro, like, how do you, what do you do the rest of the time?
Wait a minute.
What happened to you all of a sudden?
You flipped?
We're Zooming every day, though.
Uh-huh.
That's relationships.
Come on now.
What is culture?
All right.
All right.
I see where you're going.
Oh, a little bit tipping point right there for you.
The moment it got to.
How are you going to have a long-distance relationship?
Yeah, but not.
I would not see someone once a month for an extended period of time.
Then it's not a long-distance relationship, buddy.
What do you do?
You see them once a week?
You fly out to them and see them once a week?
No, it's not sustainable.
I think that's where you're going.
That's Zoom to me.
Long-distance relationship is Zoom.
Yes.
Kai, what's your point?
No, I think Pat has a good lot of good opinions and kind of input there.
But I do think also that it's changed the way where it's now more flexible, like kind of going back to Adam, with flexibility and also realizing that the business trip everyone thought everyone had to do 100% of the time, they realize now, hey, that, like, what if we cut back half of those times and we move that money someplace elsewhere where we can get more return for it?
I think that has changed and probably will stay that way for quite some time, even though things ease up and restrictions and stuff like that, because they're kind of realizing what is necessary, but then also a lot of the stuff that isn't necessary.
I don't disagree.
I think the flex is here.
I think, believe it or not, I think COVID hurt commercial real estate.
Yes.
But I think COVID also hurt a lot of universities.
You know, what do I need to stay on campus now?
Okay.
What is the purpose of going to college?
If you actually think about what the hell is the purpose of going to college.
Yeah, I have friends in Norway that are in school in the U.S.
No, no, I want you to think about this.
Actually process it.
What is the purpose of going to college?
If you have kids right now, what is the number one reason you would want your kids to go to a great college?
Well, everyone has always said the college experience.
Which is what?
Right?
You know, you're going to parties and frat and going to class and you're doing all that.
But now if you're just zooming, what's the college experience?
But you said that's a good idea, though.
I'm saying there's there's a I'm in favor of somewhere in the middle, there's a flex here.
So only 50% of students should go to college.
Everybody else zooms in.
No, I'm saying you can go to classes on campus, but also, you know, do I need to commute?
And I'm just saying hypothetical, commute an hour to take a two-hour class, to drive back home an hour.
It's like, dude, let me just zoom for this one freaking class.
Colleges just got crushed.
I'm in favor for that.
It's fine.
Eliminate 40% of them.
Keep the 60% that can handle it.
What happens there then?
Again, college is about experience, people, relationships.
Yes.
Seeing what's going on, learning how to communicate with people, learning how to do it.
Soft skills, not just hard skills.
I think you've been watching a movie with Joaquin Phoenix, her, too much lately.
And I think you got to stop watching that movie, Her.
Have you seen her, Paul?
Has anybody here seen her?
You've never seen her?
Have you seen her?
You know what's the story about?
Basically, he builds a relationship with his smartphone.
So it's him and his smartphone.
They pretty much get into a relationship.
He falls in love with her.
It's like you found, hey, Siri, how you doing?
Hey, babe.
Wait.
Hey, Siri, how you doing?
Not too shabby.
Thanks for asking.
That's my Siri.
Why is hell Siri?
It sounds like he's a Joe.
He's an engineer.
He's a Joe.
That's my Siri, right?
Okay.
Hello, Pastor Kabek David.
Good to see you again.
I think the direction we're going is Adam's going to have a virtual relationship.
All you hot-ass smartphones out there holler at your boy.
I'm here.
I'm single.
It's going to be the situation.
I'm dating somebody.
Can we see her?
Not yet.
Can we see her?
Not yet.
I'm not saying she's from Germany, though.
I'll tell you this much.
Anyways, hey, if you enjoyed this and this is the first time you're joining us, smash that subscribe button.
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Next Tuesday, we are going to do one.
I believe it's going to be Tom's going to be in town.
Tom's back.
Tom will be in town.
And then.
I never thought I'd say these words, but I'm excited to see Tom.
Good.
That's good.
Dash had an accident with his ankle and his tattoo.
Dash is a stud, man.
You can't stop that guy.
That guy's going to take over.
You're going to mess up that face, Dash.
No, the face is not going to get messed up.
He's a Brad Pitt-looking kid that's going to excel in life.
He's too handsome.
Too handsome and pretty.
And he's a stud.
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