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Bet-David Podcast | EP 8

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	We're live.
	We're live?
	Yes, sir.
	All right.
	With the right intro, by the way, with a new guest with us today, a new friend, a good friend from Chicago, Bulls, Tom Zenner, who's been on TV for many, many years.
	He used to interview Michael Jordan.
	Tom, it's good to have you on with us.
	Hey, guys, first of all, congrats on this podcast.
	I've watched it for so long.
	Now I'm on it.
	So thank you for the invite.
	I'm really happy to be here.
	I'm excited.
	Yes, we're looking forward to it.
	And I know Tom has got some strong opinions.
	If you grew up in Chicago, you know the face.
	You know, some of us never had a chance to watch Michael play.
	You ever got a chance to watch Michael play or no?
	Back in the day when he came down to my watch.
	I've never seen him play.
	He had a chance to do more than just watch him play.
	So you would hear this intro.
	And now.
	You're so from the Chicago Bulls.
	Well, first, let me tell you what topics we got, and then maybe we can go into a story with that.
	So we got a pretty jam-packed episode today.
	We haven't done a podcast, I think, since last.
	Matter of fact, no, it's been over a week because last week was convention week.
	That's true.
	We had 16,000 of our agents.
	We did our first virtual annual convention with General Mattis, with Trey Gowdy, and with Pitbull, which he crushed it, by the way.
	But we are back.
	We are back to be on with you.
	Here's the topics of the day.
	I got an email from Goldman Sachs.
	And this email from Goldman Sachs is going to talk about taxes.
	And it talks about Biden's tax plan.
	Let me put it to you this way.
	When I shared this email with our buddy Adam, Adam immediately said there's no way that's true.
	He went into verifying all the stats and the numbers.
	He could not believe what the new tax plan of Biden is.
	We're going to talk about it today in an email that was sent to investors at Goldman.
	We'll talk about that.
	Then we'll talk about what happened with the founder of Zoom CEO yesterday.
	You know, his network had a pretty good day a couple days ago.
	I'd never heard of his name before.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Now you do.
	When you make $6.6 billion in a day.
	The most anonymous billionaire in the history of this planet.
	Crazy.
	Not anymore, though.
	Craziness.
	I still couldn't tell you his name.
	Yeah, craziness.
	And then we'll go into Amazon Drone Program, which is ready to lift off.
	And it's pretty crazy what they're doing.
	Delta and American made a big announcement after what United did.
	Biden, a record-breaking campaign, which that's a big victory for Adam.
	Adam's predicting that for a while.
	A little glitch with COVID cases coming from CDC.
	Nancy Pelosi, who goes to the same hair salon as I think Adam's been there a couple times before.
	She wouldn't let me in these days.
	He got in somehow.
	Little scandals there.
	And then a Senate Bill, California.
	And last but not least, again, we got more topics, but we may even talk about, I don't know if you guys heard about that.
	You know, we've all done sales before.
	You're the top salesperson in your company.
	That's a big deal.
	You've done sales for a while.
	You've done sales before.
	I've never, the stats I saw, U-Haul announced their salesperson of the year.
	Get out of here.
	They have over 10,000 salespeople out there.
	U-Haul announced their greatest salesperson of the year.
	They have never seen a better salesperson than this.
	Let me hear this.
	I wanted to hear the scripts.
	I wanted to know how you overcame objections.
	I wanted to know what people say when it says pricing.
	I wanted to know what the strategy was for U-Haul's greatest salesperson of all time.
	How do you get so many people to buy U-Hauls?
	How do you do it?
	I mean, there's got to be a strategy to it.
	Years ago, there was a book called How to Master the Art of Selling by Tom Hopkins.
	And Tom Hopkins was known for selling 366 homes in a year.
	That's one a day.
	So he wrote a book about it.
	This man ought to write a book about it.
	Well, think about the skill in selling U-Haul because how do you convince someone to drive somewhere 300 or 400 or 500 miles with just AM radio and no air conditioning?
	Have you been in a U-Haul lately?
	They are the most expensive.
	Not the most exciting vehicles in the world, right?
	It's not got the windows that go down like that.
	I mean, you got to be a master salesperson.
	Can't listen to the podcast.
	No, no, no.
	You can't do any of that stuff.
	I got to hear what's going on with the picture.
	I'm going to be in the League of Europe.
	So, U-Haul salesperson of the year goes to.
	Can you please put the picture up so everybody can see?
	Oh, wow.
	Governor Newsom.
	So, first of all, we got Gavin Newsome.
	We got a recording.
	He won it.
	Record-breaking.
	Shattering.
	Let me just give you some stats here on what our friend here in California is doing to everybody who's in California.
	Shout out to your governor.
	Just an incredible type of a governor who is able to do great things with U-Haul.
	Because here's the numbers for U-Haul, just so everybody knows.
	The cost to rent a 26-foot U-Haul truck, big enough to move a three- to four-bedroom home out of San Francisco, headed to Las Vegas, reached as high as $2,085 for four days.
	Okay, U-Haul.
	The same truck to rent to go in the opposite direction, $132.
	Wow.
	Let me say this one more time.
	$2,085 to go from San Francisco to Vegas, but $132 to go from Vegas to San Francisco.
	Tom, you're from California.
	Why do you think this is happening?
	You only live in California.
	I live in L.A. You know, what a strong picture of government convey power.
	He looks like a sales guy.
	It looks like a legit sales guy.
	It's hard to say no to that guy.
	You know, it's legit.
	It's real.
	I live in Los Angeles.
	You know, the only good thing about this for people leaving California is there's no traffic, right?
	With the pandemic, there's no traffic in L.A. You can get out of there even quicker right now.
	I have a good friend who's one of the top real estate agents in Phoenix.
	He says there's no inventory.
	So many people are moving to Phoenix.
	I heard a stat.
	I don't know if it's true.
	They swore by it.
	I heard one out of eight people that are moving are moving to Maricopa County in Arizona.
	I mean, so there's an influx of people that are actually leaving.
	It's true.
	It's real.
	And you know what?
	Here's the sad thing.
	He's going to be employee of the month for a few months in a row because it's the tip of the iceberg.
	I mean, it could get worse.
	If the election goes a certain way, there's going to be more people leaving California than there are now.
	So it's a real deal.
	I mean, he has earned that status.
	He is single-handedly responsible for people leaving California.
	Congratulations to Gavin.
	I actually have more of a question.
	I have a couple of questions.
	I've never lived in California.
	I've done some summers there.
	I want to know, you're from California.
	I mean, obviously, VA ran.
	You've lived in California for six years now.
	You went to college there.
	So here's my question to both of you.
	What are the chances you would move back to California?
	And what are the chances you would move out of California?
	So the U-Haul crossroads right here.
	What are the chances you would move back to California with the current climate right now?
	I would say slim to none on my end.
	So you got to realize seven months ago, we were thinking about going back to California.
	It was one of the spots, and it was at the top of our list because I lived there for 24 years, right, outside of the Army.
	But the way the politics are right now, my dad lives in a small city called Granada Hills.
	I lived in Granada Hills for eight years.
	Granada Hills, nice place.
	It's got a nice park, decent community, nothing crazy.
	It's definitely not high.
	It's not low.
	It's right in the middle of the modern.
	I like the sound of it.
	And I lived there for eight years.
	And the other day, my dad sent me a video of outside where he lives, the park, there are hundreds of homeless people laying out outside of his house.
	I said, I've never seen this before.
	I don't even know what he says.
	Pat, this just happened the last year, year and a half.
	I said, what do you mean?
	He's sending me the video.
	I'm seeing people laying out all on the side.
	I'm not talking one family, two full-on tents set up.
	I've never seen this before.
	I mean, what's happening right now over there, it's quite scary.
	I mean, they came out with a new Senate bill that just got passed, you know, a couple of days ago, which we can talk about here in a minute.
	But yeah, it'd be very hard for me to go back.
	You're not going back.
	Pat, you couldn't afford to go back there.
	Literally, it would make such financials.
	You've been there for six years.
	Well, it breaks my heart.
	I mean, I love California.
	You know, I grew up in Minnesota in a small town, 700 people, on a dirt road, literally.
	Very rural.
	I just wanted to get to California.
	That was the dream.
	I'm sure Pat had that dream.
	I did too, growing up in Minnesota.
	I went to college.
	I did everything I could to get to go to college or got a football scholarship.
	I said, the first school in California that gives me a scholarship, I'm going.
	I went there, basically didn't know anybody's sight on scene.
	I just wanted to get to California.
	It kind of breaks my heart to see what's happening.
	You mentioned the homeless situation where your dad is.
	I always kept saying, okay, we know it's bad in downtown LA.
	And when I say it's bad, it's unbelievable.
	If you get rerouted, if you're driving around LA and you have to go through downtown, it blows your mind.
	I mean, just to see the encampments everywhere and to think that leaders don't care or this, this isn't a problem.
	How do you just allow the encampments to continue to move west, which is what happens?
	Okay, so I kept saying, what happens if they get to Brentwood?
	They're in Brentwood, all along San Dicente now.
	I mean, there are tents everywhere you look.
	What if they get into Beverly Hills?
	You know, it's just, there's no stopping it.
	I live in Manhattan Beach, a very nice beach city, you know, in the South City.
	Yeah, and it's like a slow-motion movie.
	You just sense change and you almost feel it.
	It's little by little, but you do sense it's different.
	I get how people, if they have the opportunity, if their lease is up, if they can sell their house, because real estate is still hot in Southern California.
	So people can make money on selling their house, but they are bailing in droves.
	And the other thing, too, is: you know, you live in Los Angeles.
	We have friends of all political background, but mainly Democratic and liberal.
	But you just hear differences in the conversations right now, the way people are talking.
	So who knows?
	He's earned the status of employee of the month for U-Haul.
	I bet U-Haul really is, it's going to be like Zoom when we see their earnings here.
	They're going to be billionaire.
	They got a lot of founders of Louis Claude.
	They got to send him a check to say thank you so much, Governor Newsom, for being the top salesman of the month for us back to back to back.
	Just a legendary salesperson of U-Haul.
	I think he puts that on his resume.
	He should.
	Depends on what job he's applying for.
	Depends on what job he's applying for after being a governor.
	So, you know, you showed something earlier.
	You said this is why I love Florida, because in Florida, politics is not as ugly as you're saying it is in some other states.
	How is politics in Florida?
	Well, you're about to find out, sir.
	Well, you tell us how you've been there for a while.
	Florida is sort of like a mirror of the United States.
	You've got North Florida, which is, I went to college in North Florida.
	It's Florida State, which is a little, you know, it's basically the South.
	You know, it's just South Alabama, South Mississippi, South Georgia.
	Cool.
	You've got middle of Florida, Orlando, family, fun, kids, that kind of a vibe.
	You've got, you know, retirement communities.
	You've got, and then you come down to Miami, you have the Latino community, you have the Haitian community, you've got South American community, you've got the Jewish community.
	It's really just sort of like a mirror, an image of what the United States is.
	And politics is not that ugly in Florida.
	That's why every year the freaking election hinges on Florida.
	Are they a little bit more, you know, liberal these days?
	They're a little more conservative these days.
	We have Republican senators.
	We've got Republican governors.
	We've got Democratic governors.
	It's not as ugly.
	It's not as divisive.
	So that's why when I hear things about California, I'm like more inquisitive.
	Like, what the going on in California?
	You should do a project for your life and go and live in San Francisco for five years.
	Yeah, well, I lived there for five days.
	And how was that?
	And I took my girlfriend there.
	She wanted to leave on the first day.
	I had to convince her.
	One of your girlfriends you took for San Diego.
	Tell us how it was.
	Five days you went to San Diego.
	So we started in San Diego.
	I did this trip every year for the last six, seven, eight years.
	But I used to do it with like the homies, but now I took my girl.
	We started in San Diego.
	We went to L.A.
	We stayed in LA.
	We did up the coast.
	What's the coast?
	I'm thinking of what's it called?
	The one?
	Yeah, the one.
	All that.
	Carmel Monterey.
	What's the big sir?
	Yeah, big sir.
	So we're building up, and we were flying back from San Francisco to Miami.
	So we're like, oh my God, we're so excited.
	We'd never been to San Francisco.
	We had recently been in New York.
	It's kind of like the west coast of New York.
	We're excited.
	We get there.
	We check into our hotel.
	The hotel was a little bit, they weren't ready for us.
	We had this room, whatever.
	Point is, we say, hey, look, while you're getting her ready for a room, we're going to take a walk out on the streets.
	They said, hey, do us a favor.
	Don't go that way.
	They told you.
	They told you, don't go that way because this is 10 o'clock at night on a Wednesday.
	Don't go towards Union Station Square.
	Don't go that way.
	Go that way.
	That's a little, you know, fun.
	So we go that way.
	I swear to God, within an hour, she's like, get me the fuck out of here.
	This is the most disgusting place I've ever been.
	I'm like, babe, whatever.
	Let's check into the hotel.
	Let's, you know, we'll figure it out.
	The next day, I went and I returned the rental car that we were using.
	I literally called her.
	I was like, we're staying.
	I found Fisherman's Wharf.
	It's cool.
	It's cool down here.
	Touristy area.
	There's walruses.
	There's seals.
	What have you?
	It was nice.
	We ended up having a couple, you know, three, four days that were nice.
	But that first day in San Francisco was the same thing.
	Well, it's shocking because you think San Francisco, you have this preconceived notion.
	It's beautiful.
	It's on the coast.
	Great skyline, clouds.
	I mean, just beautiful.
	And then you get there and it hits you in the face.
	And you see it and you smell it.
	That's the other thing about when you go to San Francisco right now.
	I mean, it's real.
	It's palpable.
	I mean, there's no question.
	And it's a tragedy.
	It's just, it's unbelievable to think about.
	Is it political American city?
	Is it the economy?
	Is it Silicon Valley?
	Is it 1,000% politics that has caused this?
	Of course it is.
	It's 1,000% politics.
	Politics determines that.
	Not every city in America is like that.
	Why is San Francisco like that?
	You know, and by the way, I don't know if you guys heard or not.
	One of the salons was open this week.
	What's the salon I usually go to?
	One of the salons.
	Oh, is that right?
	And one of your good friends, Nancy Pelosi, went to the salon.
	Localized.
	She called me for the hookup.
	I hooked her up.
	I got her in.
	Hey, Kai, can we see this video of Nancy Pelosi going to the salon?
	I mean, honestly, you got to see this video.
	Kai's been up in his game with videos lately.
	Look at that.
	That's Nancy Pelosi.
	Watch her step.
	Good.
	Boom.
	Good for her.
	She didn't fall.
	Rocking the high heels on the bottom.
	By the way, no mask on.
	How irresponsible to not put a mask on at her age.
	You know what my first impression of this is?
	Okay, we all know politicians take shortcuts.
	They expect preferential treatment.
	That doesn't shock me.
	She's doing that.
	The mask thing bothers me more because in California, they'll give you a fine if you don't have one on.
	I mean, they're constantly in your face.
	That you like, walk across the street.
	They have mask police in some cities.
	You know, if you don't have it on, they're harassing you.
	The fact she's getting her hair done doesn't shock me, but not wearing a mask is a slap in the face to everybody that's had to change their lifestyle and wear one all the time.
	It's ridiculous.
	Now, the challenge is: so she, the owner of the salon, decides to, Kai, if you can move it up a little bit so we can see the picture.
	The owner of the salon decides to release this video.
	So they asked her, why'd you release the video?
	She said, I thought it was fair because other salon owners have been shut down and they asked me to open up mine and it's a community and I want to also be protective of them.
	So I open it up.
	What do you think about her opening up the salon for Pelosi and then sharing this video with the public?
	So I'll give you, you know, two sides of the coin here, right?
	So obviously the optics of this are horrible.
	I mean, this is hypocrisy at its finest.
	Breaking news, everybody.
	Politicians don't always do as they say, do as they do, right?
	I mean, they'll tell you one thing and then do what they want to do, right?
	So that's Nancy thing.
	However, you could take the other side of the coin, which I'm sure Nancy's saying is, you set me up, bro.
	You set me up.
	I called you up.
	You know, it's going to clear the space just for me.
	No one else in there.
	There's nobody else in there except for me and my hairdresser.
	And then you rat on me.
	So am I a fan of what she's doing?
	Am I an advocate of Nancy and her hypocrisy?
	Not at all.
	However, I'm sure she's basically saying she was set up.
	Is that what her defense is?
	I'm sure.
	She's set up.
	That's not a setup.
	Okay, it's being exposed.
	The mistake the salon owner made is not calling TMZ and making money off it.
	Hopefully that salon owner made money off this video, right?
	Because her shop has been closed for five months.
	So hopefully that she was able to capitalize on it.
	And then did you happen to see that the next day that they start lifting some of the limitations in California?
	Yeah, that's saying that now you can open barbershops and salons with limited people inside amazing timing lines.
	Isn't Governor Newsom Pelosi's nephew?
	I don't know if they're actually related.
	Check to see if they're relatives because I saw somewhere that Newsom related to, right, they're related to Pelosi.
	There you go.
	Click on that.
	Gavin or Newsom related to Pelosi.
	He is the brother-in-law of Nancy Pelosi.
	The speaker doesn't remember his name.
	His brother-in-law is the former Pelosi.
	He's a former uncle by the President.
	No, they're talking about Ron Pelosi.
	No, I'm talking.
	Okay, so then that would be.
	Gavin Newsom.
	So it looks like maybe her husband somehow was related.
	Okay.
	Interested.
	There's some kind of relationship.
	Kai, go back to that guy.
	And just click.
	People also ask, just scroll down.
	How is Governor Newsom related?
	The top one, Kai.
	Top one.
	Boom.
	Click on that.
	While in school, Newsom spent the semester studying abroad in Rome.
	Newsom's aunt was married to Ron Pelosi, the brother-in-law speaker of the United States of House Representative.
	There's some relationship.
	When you think of Gavin Newsom, his ex-wife is Kimberly Guilfile.
	I mean, it's unbelievable.
	You know, here's the other thing I love.
	Yes, to come!
	Woo!
	The fact that Nancy Pelosi is 80, that's what I learned from this story as well.
	Is she 80?
	80 years old.
	Forget term limits.
	There should be age limits on Congress people.
	There really should be.
	There should be.
	She should not be allowed to be walking around San Francisco.
	We're starting to agree over here.
	President's 74 years old.
	She's 80.
	My God.
	Age discrimination, though.
	And then you've seen the scenarios, right?
	If they can't pick the winner of the election, then she could somehow become the president as Speaker of the House.
	80 years old.
	Unbelievable.
	How old is Trump right now?
	Is he 74 or 76?
	74.
	74.
	76.
	Biden's 76.
	I thought he's 78.
	Is he 74?
	Go to Biden?
	77.
	77.
	All right.
	Meet us halfway.
	November 20th.
	He's about to be 78, by the way, in the next few months.
	So he's either going to have a huge party when he turns 78 or he's going to freaking crumble up and die at age 10.
	You said it was Barack Obama.
	You're a two-term president, a one-term senator, and you're not even 60 yet.
	I'm a gangster right there.
	Actually, think about that for a second.
	You're 59.
	You're a two-term president, a one-term senator, and you're not even 60.
	Can we see a before and after?
	Before we compare to other politicians.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Let's take a before and after picture of Barack when he became the president at what?
	Was he 48?
	That's a big difference, honestly.
	I know he says that.
	Click on it on pictures.
	I don't, I mean, you know, they're going to pick the best and the worst pick of him.
	I mean.
	Yeah, and that could be too far-fetched, 2009, 2016.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I don't know if it's that bad of a picture.
	I think the mole got bigger, though.
	The what?
	The mole.
	Moles do get bigger.
	Okay.
	Let's take a look at Trump 2015, 2020.
	Is he tanner now?
	His tan got a little bit stronger, I think, is what happened.
	What happened to the title of the business?
	And all that golf that he's doing every day.
	Before and after bleach before and during office.
	It just depends on posting the photos.
	It's going to be used posting a photo.
	Okay, listen.
	We talked about, you know, obviously we took a shout out to Keila before the show, just to warm things up a little bit, right?
	So it got me thinking.
	Don't get us involved with your double shot.
	You didn't do it?
	Come on, Mr. Miami.
	You're the only one that did it.
	Unbelievable.
	Just picture this.
	Picture this.
	Before they're doing a podcast, you got Obama on one side.
	He's got a glass of tequila scotch.
	You got Trump on the other side.
	Just two dudes hanging out.
	Two dudes, no cameras, cameras off.
	What do you think that conversation sounds like?
	They just took a shot, even though Trump doesn't drink.
	Are they both presidents or pre-president?
	After-president.
	I'm talking 2020 and beyond.
	Right?
	Well, there are after-presidents that are like, what's up, man?
	You know, obviously, we don't like each other.
	Trump wouldn't take the tequila.
	He's never drank it right now.
	I know.
	Trump wouldn't take the tequila.
	Hypothetical.
	But if they did.
	Just having a conversation.
	I think Trump is so competitive.
	He'd still be talking shit.
	To Obama's face.
	Trump is the super Trump is like Jordan.
	32 years later, he wants to remind you of that shot he made over you.
	That's him.
	He can't help himself.
	He's that competitive.
	That competitive.
	People say today, competitors who ran into Jordan, he's still reminding him of how to do it.
	And when I hit that shot on you, buddy.
	Till today.
	Buddy, that was four years ago.
	Two other characteristics of these guys, though, I think is they both want to be liked.
	I think they have, when you're in that role of president and it's so partisan, you have to play a role as president.
	And some of that, I don't know if it's natural or if it's acting or whatnot.
	My opinion is they don't have a severe hatred.
	Maybe now because things got very personal between them, you know, during at the end of the, when Trump was campaigning.
	But I've heard Obama's a super cool guy to hang with.
	I bet he'd be pretty fun.
	If you could keep politics out of it, I bet it'd be a fascinating conversation.
	What do you think Obama is saying?
	Well, Donald, we're going to have a talk here.
	Don't you think for Trump, you know, he loves celebrities, and he always did.
	That's why he did Celebrity Apprentice.
	He just goes to all the parties.
	He loved it.
	The fact that Hollywood has turned on him like they have, and Wall Street, and New York, and Madison Avenue, and he's so hated.
	I bet that tears him up because he wants to be liked.
	Yeah, I agree.
	And you know, it's crazy.
	By the way, if you're watching this and you're with us, we got 1415 so far with us.
	Our record is, I think, 1650 or 1615.
	Nice crew.
	If you're enjoying the podcast, put a thumbs up and hit the subscribe button.
	But, you know, I had Alan Lickman on yesterday with me.
	And Alan Lickman, if you know who he is, he's a historian.
	And he's a historian who, years ago, back in the early 80s, late 70s, he ran into a Russian man named Vladimir.
	And Vladimir was one who had a technology to predict earthquakes.
	Okay?
	Alan Lickman, he meets Vladimir.
	This man's the expert at predicting earthquakes.
	What a job to have.
	He predicts earthquakes.
	So he comes up to Alan and says, Hey, I want to collaborate with you.
	Alan's worried.
	He's thinking this guy's tied to the KGB.
	He's like, wait a minute, man.
	Listen, I went to American University.
	I'm a PhD from Harvard.
	I'm the scholar.
	I don't want to do anything with you, man.
	What are you talking about?
	Why don't we collaborate?
	So check this out.
	They collaborate together.
	Kai, did you bring the notes?
	Yeah, he brought the notes here.
	They decide to collaborate together.
	And here's what happens.
	He ends up coming up with 30 different markers to predict the election.
	Okay.
	From the 30, they narrow it down to 13, the top 13 that matter the most.
	Out of the 13, two of them are about the candidate.
	The other 11 is not.
	The other 11 is more about the current conditions.
	Two of them is about the candidate, right?
	Then they go back from 1860 to 1980, and they look at every single election with this guy who predicts earthquakes, and they come up with a format, and they come up with a formula, and they say, we have figured out the formula.
	Two years before the 1984 election, when Reagan becomes president in 1981, matter of fact, he predicts that Reagan's going to win office and he's going to become president.
	Everybody thought he was crazy.
	From that moment till today, every single one of the predictions he's gotten right now.
	Here's a key fact to know about this guy here.
	He's a die-hard Democrat.
	He's not a Trump guy.
	He went on Bill Maher talk trash about Republicans.
	He says Republicans have no values, but they have a spine.
	Democrats have values, but they don't have spine.
	And during the predictions that he made, five of the winners he predicted were Republicans, four of them were Democrats.
	He chose Trump to win in 2016.
	But here's what he said yesterday when we sat down.
	He said, based on these 13 markers, this is his prediction, by the way, based on these 13 markers, he predicts that as long as you get seven of these on your side, you become president.
	So I said, let's go through it.
	Party mandate.
	Are we going to do this now?
	We're going to go through the business.
	I'm going to actually say what he said.
	Party mandate.
	After the midterm elections, there's 13 markers.
	The first one is party mandate.
	After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the U.S. House of Representatives than the previous midterm elections.
	This favors who?
	Democrats, because Democrats have it.
	Number two is the contest.
	There's no serious contest for an incumbent party nomination.
	Trump is the incumbent, so he doesn't have anybody that's – so that favors who?
	Republicans.
	So are we keeping score here?
	We got one for Biden.
	One Biden.
	One Trump so far.
	Okay.
	Then he goes to incumbency.
	The incumbency party candidate is a sitting president.
	That's Trump.
	That's Trump.
	So that's two for Trump.
	Yes.
	Then he goes third party.
	Is there a third party that's competing like a Ross Pro?
	Nothing.
	No, Joe Jorgensen.
	Context cannot do anything, and Jorgensen's definitely not going to be an economist.
	Trump's up 3-1.
	Trump is up 3-1 based on his prediction so far.
	Then you go to short-term economy.
	How does short-term economy is not?
	Not so good.
	This one, believe it or not, he gave to Democrats.
	He says this is on the Democrats side, which we'll get back to here in a minute.
	He says, well, the economy's in shambles.
	We have a recession.
	There's no way in the world this favors Trump, et cetera, et cetera.
	That's okay.
	3-2 Trump.
	3-2 Trump.
	Then long-term economy.
	Are Americans hopeful about the future of the U.S. economy?
	He gave this also to Democrats.
	He gave this to Biden.
	He says Americans are not hopeful about the future of the economy.
	Tieball game.
	Now it's a tieball game.
	Then he goes to the next one, which is policy change.
	The incumbent administration affects major changes in national policy.
	He says Trump created a ton of his policies.
	He brought him in the wall, all this other stuff.
	He threw away all of Obama's policies.
	He threw away all of the Women's Projects.
	Yeah, that's right.
	4-3 Trump.
	Then he goes to social unrest, number eight.
	Yeah, we don't have any exceptions on this one.
	Then he goes to scandal.
	There's a scandal with Trump, so he's going to give this to the police.
	So now Biden just took the lead lately.
	Now Biden took the lead 530.
	The old man Biden spoke up foreign and military failure.
	He gives this to Republicans.
	Yeah, there's been no major.
	There's been no failures.
	No failures.
	Then he goes to foreign and military success.
	Not a huge a lot of success.
	Wait a minute.
	Not a huge amount.
	Are you kidding me?
	But that's your opinion.
	He says Democrats take this.
	Okay, well, he's wrong there.
	But we're going to get to this on the wrong part because I'm with you, but he gave that to Democrats.
	Then this is the next one, which is mind-blowing.
	I mean, the fact that he chose it this way, it's mind-boggling.
	Incumbent charisma.
	Does Trump have charisma?
	You know what he says?
	He says no.
	He doesn't have charisma.
	He said.
	Okay, you want my opinion on this one?
	He said, does he have charisma?
	Maybe.
	It's his words.
	But only to his base.
	Okay, we'll come back and debate.
	That's what he said, though, did he not?
	He didn't say that.
	No, he gave me a question.
	Okay, gotcha.
	But I'm making this up.
	And then the last one, he says, does the challenger have charisma?
	He said, no.
	He says, absolutely not.
	He said no.
	So he gave that to Trump.
	So we got seven.
	We got seven, six Biden.
	He says Obama, I mean, Biden ends up beating Trump.
	So here's what I said after.
	7-6.
	7-6.
	Now we open up for debate.
	Now we open up for debate.
	Ding, So which one of these are open up for debate?
	I got three of them open for debate, right?
	I got three of them open for debate.
	Okay.
	One of them is short-term economy.
	Yeah.
	The other one is long-term economy.
	The other one is his charisma.
	And the other one is military success.
	I was going to say foreign potential success.
	So there's four that you want to bring up.
	Well, I have this.
	Short-term economy, long-term economy, foreign military success and his charisma.
	So which one do you want to take first?
	Let's start with the first one.
	By the way, if everybody's watching this, would you categorically say that Trump is a very charismatic guy, whether you like him or not?
	Comment below if you say Trump is a charismatic guy.
	He wouldn't have been elected in 2016.
	That's what got him elected, is charisma.
	So he's saying just with his party is what he's saying.
	What are your thoughts?
	Look, Pat, here's my thoughts.
	Did you know about the 14th question that Lickman has?
	Here it is.
	Is Lickman a quack?
	And the answer to that is yes.
	Okay, so he hangs his hat on getting every election right since 1984.
	Congratulations, Ronald Reagan over Gary Hart.
	What a bold prediction in 1984.
	So he gets that one right.
	Did you also notice that these types of guys, there's always one, every election cycle that got the election right every year since 1923, right?
	There's always that one guy, and then they get it wrong, and then it falls off to the side.
	Here's the other thing: throw all his little questions out the window because 2020, you can't compare any other year to 2020.
	It skews everything.
	This guy's a quack.
	The other thing, too, is when some left-leaning media publications report this, it's almost like a mic drop for them.
	Oh, Lickman said he's going to win.
	It's over, right?
	They take so much satisfaction and pride over it.
	I don't buy these guys.
	And here's the last thing that makes me think he's a quack.
	He predicts earthquakes.
	The only person that can predict an earthquake is Paul Giamatti in the movie San Andreas.
	Did you ever see that on the rock?
	May God help us all.
	I love Paul Giamatti.
	Anyway, so that's my take on Lickman.
	The 14th question.
	I mean, I got to totally disagree with Tom on this one.
	Tom, he predicted Trump would win in 2016.
	Let's give the guy a freak.
	No, no, no.
	That's called luck.
	You flip a coin on some of these.
	Okay, listen.
	If you've got, number one, some Russian dude in your corner that's busting out some crazy systems and stats, you have 30, as Pat said, and you boil it down to 13, and you go back from 1860 to 1980, and you run your numbers, and you bring your points.
	He's got a system, dude.
	He's got a system.
	He's not a quack.
	Now, you might disagree clearly that he's not a prophet either.
	I mean, he's been.
	Dude, I'm not praying to the Lichtman God.
	I don't give a shit about this guy.
	However, he does have a system.
	Is the system proven to be right?
	Sure.
	We're going to find out in two months if he actually has his, you know, if the system can, you know, hold water in a very, very close election.
	Clearly, Reagan over Mondale, 1980.
	Oh, my God.
	How'd you come up with that one?
	But Gore Bush, the closest election we've ever had in our country's history, predicted that one.
	He predicted 2016.
	He actually predicted, I think, Gore would win the general election.
	I think that was the caveat with the two-day data.
	Which he did.
	Which we've all learned in this country, general election.
	You mean the popular vote?
	I'm sorry.
	But those people predict.
	Well, clearly, we've all learned there's a big difference between the popular vote and the Electoral College.
	Sorry for my confusion right there.
	But the bottom line is I think the guy has a system, and we're going to see if it can, you know, cold water on this.
	But back to the charisma thing.
	I want to go through specifics.
	By the way, I just asked, here's who said no.
	Majority said yes.
	Bobby Nikolovsky said Trump doesn't have charisma.
	Almost everybody else says, of course, yes, absolutely.
	Deborah Waite says yes, he is.
	Night Fury says Joe Hidden.
	And then you go, let's see who else says no.
	I mean, it's like 90% is no, he does not blazer self.
	And then you got a few other people that said no.
	Vinay Derekar said no.
	Okay, so 90% say yes that he has charisma.
	But let's go back to it.
	Okay, short-term economy.
	I don't even want to, because the part that I question him, I actually like his system.
	I don't think I dislike the system.
	He says there's a part of this that has to do with your own judgment because some of the things it was based on opinion when he said this.
	So short-term economy, he gave it to the Democrats.
	How do you give the short-term economy to the Democrats?
	When we had the conversation yesterday, here's what I said.
	I said, well, first of all, the day Trump took office, November 9th, he takes office, market goes up to 50, okay?
	It was at $18,559 the day he took office.
	Trump took office.
	But that went from $18,059 to $29,000 in change as of yesterday.
	That's 50-something percent.
	So short-term economy, check.
	Now, let me go even a little bit deeper than that with short-term economy.
	Then he said, well, it's not necessarily true.
	The American people are struggling right now.
	They're this, they're that.
	It's a recession.
	I said, this is not a recession.
	This is not a tip.
	He said, this is a recession.
	I said, look, I went through 01 recession, 9-11, when it happened.
	And you kind of saw what happened to the economy.
	That went to 6,500.
	People were scared.
	People lost money.
	I remember 08 when the mortgage crisis took place and people were losing money.
	Even though there was quantitative easing and they bailed out in 08, the money didn't go to the people.
	The money stopped at the companies, the too big to fail companies.
	You didn't get the money.
	You didn't get the $600.
	No, but the way Trump did quantitative easing, the money went to the people, $600 a week, which means even the unemployed had money coming in.
	So it's not like it's a recession.
	They're still more than when they were making.
	So you can't say people weren't spending money.
	People are still spending money.
	People are still going through the same, you know, similar things that they were doing because there was money still coming in.
	Yes, savings rate went up.
	Yes, airlines took ahead.
	Yes, hotels took it.
	So this is not a typical recession.
	Now, the other one is long-term economy.
	It's an opinion to say you don't think the long-term economy is going to do good.
	It's an opinion because right.
	Who did he give the long-term economy to?
	He gave that to against Biden.
	Okay, no, that's clear bias.
	That's clear bias.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I like his 13 markers.
	I don't like the way he chose his sides.
	What he should have done is he should have said, I'm bowing out of predicting this year because it's too volatile.
	There's no way you can use this.
	I don't even mean bowing out.
	No, he should say I'm not.
	This is how he makes his name.
	No, he doesn't.
	He's got to sit this one out.
	He doesn't make his name at all because I know that's not the same thing.
	You can't be 100% with this election.
	He was, nope, this is why.
	Here's what's going to happen.
	I said, can you look at debates as a marker?
	He says debates never mattered.
	Hillary won every debate against Trump.
	It was irrelevant.
	Trump still won.
	He said, Hillary won every debate against Trump is what his answer was.
	And he still won.
	See, he tries to take scientific theories and apply unscientific answers to it because there's no final score in a debate.
	I mean, that is your own interpretation, right?
	A debate could be looked at by 50 people and have 50 different answers.
	I really think he should have just said, I'm not doing a prediction this year and then retired undefeated.
	Doesn't that make more sense?
	You know, he was like 50.
	What's your beef with Alan Liker?
	I don't have a beautiful beef.
	You got a beef with Likman.
	I don't have a beef at all.
	I just, I don't buy into these guys that think that they're going to use their formula and apply it to this year because this year.
	What happens next year?
	What happens to this year?
	And he's lucky, like he probably was on half of these because part of it, he's just guessing.
	So basically, we don't even need to talk about Likman anymore.
	I tell you.
	No, I tell you, I like the 13 markers.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	I do too.
	I like the 13 markers, but there's got to be a way where you can reason and say, you can't tell me short-term economy not doing good.
	I think what we've just established is, okay, we like these 13.
	I like the market.
	But there's open for debate.
	Yes.
	You think he's not charismatic.
	Well, then talk about the other one.
	Talk about the other one that he gave to the Democrats, saying foreign military successes.
	Meaning, he's had no military successes.
	He gave it to Biden, meaning Trump has had no military successes in the last three and a half years.
	I would think that he hasn't had a major military success.
	However, I do think he's had significant foreign success, especially in the Middle East with obviously the moving of the embassy to Jerusalem and then obviously everything that happened with the UAE like two weeks ago.
	25 years, that's never happened.
	Whatever's happening with China.
	That's the guy that visited North Korea.
	You got a guy that takes out Hassan Soleimani, who was the number one terrorist in the world.
	You don't hear anything on the news about ISIS.
	When's the last time you turned on the news and even thought about ISIS?
	When's the last time you watched the news and you saw anything about ISIS?
	When's the last time?
	Just on four years ago.
	No, no, no.
	What I'm trying to say is, do it now.
	Okay.
	What I'm trying to say is, when's the last time you even heard the word ISIS?
	Why not?
	So just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean that it's not a success.
	So I think this one can also be debated on both sides.
	Tom, what do you think?
	Well, isn't the definition of not having, or couldn't you look at not having any foreign success in the military a good thing?
	Because he hasn't had any altercations.
	We didn't lose any battles.
	We just didn't engage, really.
	And I think eliminating ISIS is such a big deal.
	I mean, that was the number one news story, the number one world problem probably in 2015, in 2014.
	It was horrific what was going on.
	And now I don't think, do they exist?
	I mean, I hope we've completely eradicated.
	They're out there.
	But I mean, they've got a handle on it, right?
	And you got to give some victories there.
	That's all I'm saying.
	You got to give some victories there.
	I'm open to it being 50-50.
	On this one, I'm not even saying it's on Trump or not.
	I'm just saying there can be an argument made for both sides.
	Do you have it 9-4?
	I have a 9-4.
	I have it.
	I know you're dismissing this.
	You're 0 and 13, and we already know.
	I'm like a Las Vegas box.
	No bet.
	I have it actually in favor of Trump 7.6.
	Oh, so you have favorite Trump.
	So let me ask you, which one flipped for you?
	I think whether you like Trump or not, clearly I'm not a Trump fan.
	He definitely has charisma.
	Okay.
	So you can't say he doesn't know.
	But then that's the last one.
	So he gave it to Biden.
	You're saying Trump has charismaticism.
	Yeah, so I'm flipping it.
	Now, I disagree with you on the short-term economy thing.
	The economy.
	Tell me why.
	Okay, so a couple different things.
	For the average American out there, things are not better than they were four years ago right now.
	Right now, short-term.
	average american you talked about the pre pre-covid or post-covid We're talking about post-COVID.
	During COVID, pre-COVID, was it better or was it worse?
	Okay, but we're talking short-term.
	Short-term, the last three seconds.
	Pre-COVID, was it better or worse?
	Pre-COVID.
	Like January.
	Is it better or worse?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So go to term.
	I'm giving to Trump.
	Short term, I'm not giving to Trump.
	So long term, you are giving it to Trump.
	Yes, then it's 8-5.
	So now we're 8-5.
	Okay, then.
	I think what he said was the long-term ramifications.
	I'm not sure what he said.
	Clearly, the economy was booming under Trump.
	No disagreement there.
	That would be the only freaking reason I'd ever vote for Trump would be the economy, straight up.
	So I'm giving short-term, not to Trump.
	I'm giving long-term to Trump.
	I'm flipping on the charisma.
	I disagree.
	The guy is charismatic.
	Yeah, I think that Lickman, I think the 13 points are a good basis for a discussion, but they're not the gospel.
	Here's one question.
	Lickman gave long-term economy to Biden, right?
	We all know what the tax increases are going to be.
	How can any rational person, you don't have to be a financial wizard to understand that that's going to hurt the economy?
	Well, what he's saying is people, he's not giving it to Biden.
	What he's saying is he's saying that the American people are not optimistic about the future of the economy.
	That's what he's saying.
	So it's not necessarily saying, hey, Biden's going to make the economy better.
	He's just saying the American people today are not optimistic.
	And I got no personal beef against Lickman.
	I don't know who he is.
	But there was so much partisan fervor going on in this country that his formula might not apply in 2020.
	I tell you, I love his formula.
	That's the crazy thing.
	Like I walked away saying, I actually like this because to me, I'm a guy that I like what Pitbull said.
	Pitbull said, when I was in Miami, I didn't speak good English.
	I went to school.
	He says, life was good.
	And then I took algebra.
	And I said, I have a hard time figuring out letters.
	And I have to figure out letters and numbers and they get together.
	I don't even know what the hell to do right now, right?
	But I love formulas.
	And this to me is formulas.
	So to say, to say Trump is not charismatic, this is what I told him.
	Here's my final thoughts with him.
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	But let's continue.
	The part about charisma, this is what I told him.
	I said, look, my score is 9-4.
	Based on your markers, I'm giving short-term to Trump.
	I'm giving long-term to Trump.
	I'm giving foreign military to Trump.
	And I'm giving charisma to Trump.
	What did he say?
	And then I made my point.
	I said the following.
	So I have 9-4, you have 8-5.
	Okay.
	I said, what's your favorite TV show that you can watch over and over and over again?
	He said, I'm a Yankees guy.
	I said, great.
	I said, do you ever get tired of watching Yankees?
	No.
	I mean, you watch Yankees over and over again.
	I said, great.
	I'm a Mickey guy.
	I told him about the Mickey Mantle card I won, et cetera, et cetera.
	We had to laugh about it.
	I said, can you imagine a person to carry a show for 15 years without charisma?
	I said, it's mathematically impossible.
	Before becoming a president, this guy had a TV show called Apprentice for 15 years because Americans left, right, middle wanted to hear him say, you're fired.
	They didn't give a shit if he's a Republican, Democrat, or Independent.
	Matter of fact, when he had the Apprentice show, they thought he was a Democrat.
	So it's not about the politics.
	He is very, very charismatic.
	And then I told him the last thing.
	I said, look, Alan, how about this?
	If you win and Biden wins, I take you to Yankees game.
	You tell me where you want to sit.
	Four seats, you take your family.
	Enjoy it on the house.
	I said, but if Trump wins, you come back and say you're right.
	I said, how about this?
	I said, I'd like to see you get a double-digit streak to go into double digits.
	Like, 10 is a big deal.
	You got to have a win streak.
	Why don't you say right now and switch to Trump?
	He says, I can't do it.
	So he stuck to his guns and he's going with Biden.
	Obviously, we'll see what's going to take place.
	I actually had a really good conversation with him.
	I enjoyed him.
	Sure.
	And, you know what?
	Kudos to him for what he's done.
	That is unbelievable.
	Not many people can predict him.
	But do you think he would have been getting the attention that he would be right now about this if he had picked it the other way?
	So this helps his brand going for Biden because he's going to get a lot of positive.
	I tell you one thing.
	I tell you one thing.
	He says when he was working in D.C. and he said Trump in 2016, he says, I lost a lot of friends.
	A lot of people were upset with me.
	How could you go against Queen Hillary?
	How can you go against a person that everybody thought was going to be a president?
	By the way, somebody put a question here saying, Pat, do you really believe Hillary won all three debates?
	I don't, but he does.
	He thought he won, I think it was Sheldon or something like that.
	I didn't think Hillary won all three debates.
	Now, Pat, here's another question.
	I know you like formulas, but when the person that runs the formula says, I lost a lot of friends because of my pick, and then the next time he does it, he does it the opposite way.
	Doesn't that say it could be potentially skewed?
	No, it could be.
	It totally could be.
	That's what I'm saying.
	That's why I was curious to know why he went this direction with this.
	And by the way, since we're already on this topic, I say we go into Biden's tax plan.
	How about we talk about Biden's tax plan?
	So check this out.
	Last week, I'm minding my own business.
	We're at our annual convention.
	We're preparing for it.
	We got a lot of stuff going on.
	I get an email from Goldman Sachs, from our advisor Goldman Sachs.
	Good people there.
	We like them a lot.
	They do good for us.
	Every time we run them, very, very helpful.
	This is not an article written by someone on HuffPost.
	This is not an article written by a contributor on Forbes.
	This is from Goldman Sachs talking about Biden's plan to prepare CEOs, entrepreneurs, business owners on what is going to happen when this takes place.
	Polls are trending.
	This is the email.
	Polls are trending in the Democratic Party's favor.
	And while polls are unreliable, they have fueled questions around what happens to the financial markets if the Democrats take the White House and or the Senate.
	Politics aside, we are having conversations with clients around what, if any, steps we should take over the next few months.
	A few topics of note are below.
	Let's go through three of these topics with them, okay, together.
	Number one, Biden team has published their tax plan and it outlines increased corporate tax rate, personal income rates increase, and capital gains tax rates increasing.
	Specifically, the plan outlines an increase in long-term capital gains, which is what?
	Anything above one year.
	So you buy something, I buy a card for $500,000.
	I sell it two years later for a million dollars for $2 million.
	The capital gains taxes on that is what?
	A million and a half, $500,000, sell it for $2 million.
	I'm paying capital gains on that additional million and a half I made.
	Your cost base is tax-free.
	$1.5 million.
	Yes, exactly.
	So the long-term capital gains taxes from the current 20% is going to 39.6%.
	So he's not taking it from 20% to 25%, not 30%, not 35%, to 39.6%.
	It would be the highest capital gains taxes is what we're talking about.
	Nearly 2X increase, right?
	That's number one.
	Second is he talks about the current gift tax exclusion that stands at $11.4 million per person, roughly $22 million per couple.
	And, you know, they're thinking about that this is going to go lower during the Obama administration per person.
	That was $5 million.
	It's supposed to expire by 2025, but he's saying Biden's probably going to speed up that process and it's going to bring it down to $5 million sooner.
	Okay, so this may not apply to a lot of people that are listening to this, but if you got money, this applies to you.
	Then you go a little bit deeper here into the tax plan, and here's what you notice.
	Biden would raise corporate tax rate from 21 to 28%, corporate tax rate.
	That's seven additional percent for corporate tax rate.
	Restore the top individual tax rate from 37 to 39.6.
	It went lower.
	It's going to go back to 39.6.
	His tax plan would raise between $3.35 trillion to $3.67 trillion over a decade if enacted in full starting in 2021.
	Okay, let me say that one more time.
	That means $3.35 trillion of American people is going to go to the government.
	That's really what that means, just so you know.
	$3.35 trillion over a decade.
	That's a lot of money.
	Biden's tax plan is highly progressive, increasing taxes for the top 1% earners by 13 to 18%.
	And then continuously for people who are at the bottom, it's like, well, Pat, I'm not really affected by this.
	This is just for the rich people.
	Major proposals by Biden's campaign would raise $1.6 to $1.9 trillion over a decade from corporations.
	A trillion to a trillion two will come from high earners from their income tax.
	$800 billion to a trillion dollars from Social Security taxes on high-wage earners.
	And then he's adding tax fees, fees on bank fees, $100 billion, and a bunch of other things that he's doing.
	Meaning, taxes are going up.
	When I told you the capital gains is going from 20 to 39.6, Adam, what was your reaction to it?
	You know, it's pretty unbelievable.
	Like I said before, the only reason that I personally would vote for Trump is for the economy.
	You're paying taxes.
	This is the only reason.
	Taxes.
	The only reason.
	Money guy.
	I don't find him likable.
	I don't find him credible.
	But is it reason enough, do you think, for people?
	For what people?
	Well, like a lot of people that maybe think that way?
	That think what way, Tom?
	That financially, it makes more sense with Trump as president.
	I mean, would it have been?
	Rich people, yeah.
	Rich people.
	I doubt the average working America's wake up.
	Would you consider yourself a rich person?
	I would say that I'm well off.
	Yes.
	I would consider you well off, but when I mean rich, because sometimes when you say rich nowadays, people think you're worth $100 million, $200 million.
	You're still talking.
	$1 million.
	You're still talking to the people who make between a quarter million to half a million dollars your income.
	That's not what the average American.
	That's not talking about those people.
	You'd consider that rich, though.
	Would you say quarter million to go?
	I would say that you're wealthy.
	You're doing well off.
	Fair enough.
	You're making over $200,000 as a family, $250,000 as a household income.
	The average American household, you know how much the average American household pulls in on average?
	$63,000.
	Okay.
	So we're talking middle America, median-income people here.
	They're not waking up thinking, Jesus, these long-term capital gains.
	I'm not sure.
	The estate tax, I don't know, they might go from $20 million to $5 million, the exemption.
	Most people don't think that way.
	Obviously, being around you, thinking more corporate, thinking long-term capital gain, thinking about exit strategy, these are very pertinent items.
	But me being in the insurance business, life settlement business, understanding long-term capital gain, this is some scary stuff, guys.
	So for people that are paying attention to taxes, if the highest long-term tax gain is 15%, 20%, you're going to double it to the highest ordinary income tax number, 39.6.
	This is scary stuff.
	But big picture, I'm not even talking Trump.
	I'm not even talking Biden.
	I'm talking 10, 20, 30 years down the road, what have you, taxes are going to increase in this country.
	Back when Reagan was an actor, do you know Reagan's story about when he was an actor?
	President of SAG or which story?
	When he was an actor, you know what the top tax rate was?
	This is 1930s.
	90 freaking percent in America.
	Yes.
	When I saw that, I'm like, what country was this in?
	Yes.
	So Reagan would say he would make two movies a year because if he made a third movie, he'd make way too much money and get taxed at 90%.
	So this is some of the stuff he was saying.
	Brilliant tax strategy, obviously.
	I'm making two movies a year because if I make third, they're taking 90% of it.
	So this is scary stuff.
	But whether it's 15, 20, 39, this is really aggressive.
	Taxes are going up in this country.
	This is a conversation we're going to have for the upcoming decades, for sure, especially with our unfunded liabilities with Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, everything that's going on with the deficit, with the debt calculator.
	It's scary stuff.
	This is going to be an ongoing debate, but I think this is obviously going to affect anybody who's wealthy, long-term capital gain.
	The average American, I don't think they think about this.
	I think one thing that would help Biden if he said, okay, these tax increases are going towards infrastructure or some things that all they're saying is it's $3.6 trillion.
	So where's it going?
	Vaporizing?
	I mean, is it going to knock down the national debt?
	I mean, that's the big question.
	I mean, is it going to go to programs that maybe people don't support, right?
	Which is another political issue.
	But that's a lot of money.
	That's $300 plus billion per year.
	Here's the simplest way I look at it, Adam, and I hope this helps you out and this kind of makes sense to you.
	In life, I look at everybody as an advisor, okay?
	Investment advisor.
	Is that $3 trillion better in the private with entrepreneurs taking that $3 trillion and doubling to $6 trillion, $12 trillion, $24 trillion?
	Or is that $3 trillion better being given to politicians on what they can do better with that $3 trillion?
	I'll take option A. That's my point to you.
	So today, by the way, for the listener that's listening to this, here's what you have to realize.
	Adam, is it fair to say you've never voted for a Republican president?
	For Republican president.
	Did I vote for Bush and against Kerry?
	I don't think I voted for a Republican president.
	Okay, you've never voted for a Republican president.
	No, I've not.
	So you're somebody that you would say socially you're left.
	And economically.
	You're on a 40-yard line.
	Okay, you're on a 40-yard line.
	Fair enough.
	Okay.
	But economically, you're concerned.
	I'm on the other side.
	That's right.
	So this is the challenge.
	If you remember when we were talking sometime last year and people were asking me, hey, what could happen?
	Not even last year, just like five months ago, what could happen for Trump to lose the election?
	I said, if the Dow stays and goes to 18,000, he ain't getting re-elected, period.
	He ain't getting re-elected.
	One of the biggest mistakes Democrats did, believe it or not, you know what they did?
	When coronavirus took place, they had a four-month period to really show fear in America.
	They should have never sent the $600 to the American people per week.
	The moment they agreed to do that, Trump became the good guy.
	He took care of the people in their hearts.
	The American people said, man, crisis happened.
	So it backfired on Democrats because they wanted to do that, but it happened during the Trump administration.
	Forever, that credit is going to go to Trump because they're going to remember the president.
	30 years from now, no one's going to remember that who came up with this $600 a week.
	When they came out with that $600 a week, it brought the Dow from $18.99, that went to just a few months ago, to $29,000.
	If the economy's at $29,000, most of the time the American people are like, you know what?
	If the economy is fine, the unemployment for African-American Hispanics is low as it's ever been.
	I'm just going to keep it the way it is right now.
	I think it kind of is going to backfire on Democrats.
	That's my thoughts.
	Well, the number one thing I equate with the taxes going higher, corporation tax going up is layoffs, right?
	And more people, I think, thinking long-term, how's this going to affect their jobs?
	So I don't know.
	Did they put any bias in the email when they reached out to you?
	Did they give you any advice with it?
	Or is that their job?
	I sent me an email.
	The guy's a stud.
	He's a stut.
	But to be fair, the chief economist of Goldman Sachs is a Persian lady.
	And I had a chance to go listen to her earlier this year in February when coronavirus was just coming up.
	And they said at that time that they weren't too concerned about coronavirus.
	I don't know if you remember the reports, Kai.
	We read that extensively when they gave me the reports, like 50-page report.
	Coronavirus wasn't a big deal to them.
	They didn't think it was going to be as big as it ended up being.
	And she doesn't necessarily favor Trump.
	A lot of the people like Goldman Sachs don't necessarily favor Trump.
	So they're going to be more left-leaning from the chief economist standpoint.
	And a lot of times when you get this email, the email is coming from the chief economist, giving it to the next person and the next person, and then it's coming down.
	So the leaning is a left-leaning policies that they have from the top.
	Not necessarily him, but the economy is coming from the top.
	But, you know, let's go to a couple other topics here.
	Again, we're going to find out what's going to happen here.
	All I'm saying is if it goes like this and the 39.6 is what Biden's tax plan is going to be for capital gains, you're going to have second thoughts about voting for Biden.
	That's what you're saying.
	I'm just saying that's the only reason I would consider not voting.
	So if today's the day to vote, you go to the booth, what are you doing?
	What is Josh Wade today?
	What is Josh Wade today?
	Because we have a bet.
	Josh, if you're listening, I love you, buddy.
	That bet is still in place, buddy.
	I want you losing weight.
	He doesn't.
	All right, so just to wrap this up, you have 9-4.
	I have 9-4.
	Trump.
	You got 8-5.
	I think I had 7-6, 8-5.
	And Tom, our good friend over here, has got 0-13.
	He thinks he's a quack.
	He ain't giving us a $10.
	I say you just don't do it the formula in 2020.
	Okay.
	It's different.
	The show goes on, baby.
	The show goes on.
	I asked him, I said, has anybody ever won a sweep 13-0 in the way you guys did it from 1860 to today?
	He says, only one.
	I said, who?
	He said, Teddy Roosevelt.
	Wow.
	Teddy Roosevelt's the only one that won 130.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Teddy Roosevelt's the only one that won 13-0.
	Anyways, let's talk a little business here.
	Let's talk a little business here.
	So Amazon, this is really apparently happening.
	I thought this was not going to happen anytime soon, but it's apparently happening.
	So Amazon announces their drone program that it's ready for liftoff.
	Amazon received its FAA certificate that will allow it to move forward with drone delivery.
	The drone program in 2013 was first announced.
	And ever since then, that they've been working on it, the MK27 drones will be able to fly up to 15 miles and deliver packages weighing less than five pounds in less than 30 minutes.
	Can you show us the picture of this guy so we can kind of see this?
	So if it's less than 15 miles, I order something on Amazon, it's less than five pounds.
	Within 30 minutes, it arrives to my house.
	It's crazy stuff when you think about it.
	Yeah, it's very crazy.
	I mean, all I think about is imagine how many people are ordering stuff on Amazon.
	How many drones are we going to see?
	No kidding.
	I mean, because you're seeing them drop one box.
	I mean, look, there's so many Amazon vans on the street.
	Have you noticed they're everywhere?
	They're everywhere.
	Everywhere.
	They're everywhere.
	Is there something to see or no?
	Let's see what this looks like.
	So that's apparently the drone.
	Can you make that bigger for us this year?
	Safety and Fishing Delivery Packages to customers.
	This is spa music.
	You know what?
	With the volume of packages they deliver, I don't know how this makes a dent.
	How can dropping off one package 15 miles away, is this more for publicity?
	I tell you, within 30 minutes, Tom, you buy, I mean, we have an Amazon down the street here less than 30 miles away.
	You know which one I'm talking about.
	On the way to the freeway.
	Have you ever seen that one?
	It's a massive on the right side.
	Right.
	No, no, I think it's great.
	I mean, if they could do it, but what if everybody in this room ordered something right now?
	Would there be eight drones in the air dropping up over the building right now?
	Yeah, that's what they're saying.
	But what about the other 500,000 people in Dallas that are ordering at the same time?
	But that's what I'm saying.
	If they have, I mean, you're going to look at the sky.
	I'm just visualizing.
	You look up 600 drones above you.
	Well, no kidding.
	It just looks like it's.
	Hey, what about UPS and FedEx?
	Won't they want to do the same thing?
	Won't that help them as well?
	This is unbelievable.
	I can't imagine that this takes off.
	I can't.
	I mean, I was a huge fan of the movie Back to the Future, right?
	I know, obviously, sometimes for phone, you dress up as Doc Brown just for good times.
	Shout out to John Mason.
	He's Marty McFly in his spare time.
	But I'm a huge fan of that.
	But what a twist, what a plot twist we've had in the world.
	We thought years ago we'd have flying cars.
	That's what'd be happening in 2020.
	Now we have flying drones delivering your toilet paper because you don't want to go to the store.
	By the way, have you?
	It's a sad situation.
	Have you heard what the USPS is doing to combat this with their latest technology?
	They're going to put every letter into a paper airplane and then zip it over to your house.
	Forget drones, man.
	They're going to make paper airplanes.
	That's their new delivery service.
	Well, I can see that happening.
	That's what the government would do if they wanted to do something.
	That's your mail-in ballot right there, folks.
	I tell you, this is going to be—I cannot— Are we a fan of this?
	Are we not a fan?
	Is this good?
	Is this bad?
	Is it stupid?
	Is this a bad thing?
	I think the question is if we're a fan of it or not.
	I think the question is, is it happening or not?
	And do you have any say in it?
	I think it's happening.
	I'm a fan of it for one reason.
	My 14-year-old daughter, whenever she orders something on Amazon, she's bombing me with texts all day.
	Go get my package.
	Go get my package.
	This might get it there quicker, fewer texts.
	I tell you, here's what I want you to think about.
	So imagine you are a 12-year-old boy, okay?
	And you figure out the BB gun.
	You take it out.
	You go in the backyard.
	You're seeing drones being delivered.
	And they're coming lower and lower and lower.
	You're like playing target practice.
	Hell yeah, you know what?
	I mean, the 12-year-old is what they're going to be doing.
	People are going to shoot shots.
	They're going to be shooting people.
	For sure.
	That's the part.
	You're going to see boxes falling.
	What if one of the drones has a challenge?
	It comes down, crashing in the middle of the freeway.
	It's going to be very entertaining.
	Weather?
	I mean, thunderstorms at Dallas?
	How do these things fly?
	Lightnings.
	Boom!
	Drone gets hit.
	I'm going to sound like an old, grumpy man right now.
	And you're talking to somebody that would work from home, doesn't have a car, Ubers everywhere, doesn't go shopping, does Instacart.
	I don't go to the Walmart.
	I'll go, I'll order Amazon.
	Like, I'm as techie as it gets.
	But we're going to have a new generation, your kids, your kids, that are not going to under my kids when I got knock on wood ladies out there.
	I'm single.
	The instant gratification thing is on overload right now.
	Imagine when you just, where's my package?
	And it's been 31 minutes.
	Like, this ain't a freaking pizza, bro.
	Like, there's certain things, good things take time.
	I'm not saying that everything that you're ordering, but the instant gratification of everything you order, 30 minutes, 30 minutes, 30 minutes, it's a freaking drone.
	I got to have my video game.
	Where is it?
	Come on, Amazon.
	Like, this is a little, this is getting a little aggressive, guys.
	The differentiator could be pay an extra $200.
	That's when you're rich.
	When you're rich, you do what Adam just throw money.
	Right?
	Do you think maybe the option is you pay an extra trip to $300, you get the drone service?
	Because there's just no way for the sheer volume of packages they deliver, you could have drones dropping them off.
	But I really, I mean, I think it's fascinating.
	How did Amazon deliver the packages two, three years ago?
	Because you didn't see Amazon vans.
	Are they just more comfortable having their own vans out there?
	They had stealth vans.
	They had rape vans there going on.
	Unmarked vans just.
	I mean, they're everywhere.
	And then it's fascinating when you see the little areas where they'll park them.
	Like, I see little hotels, you know, throughout LA where there's 50 Amazon vans.
	I mean, so they have, they must have so many trucks out there.
	Listen, just know that Jeff Bezos is so good that his wife's wealth doubled in the last couple months.
	She's now worth $68 billion.
	Richest ex-wife.
	Richest woman in the world.
	Okay.
	Can you imagine how powerful you are?
	You're worth $200 million and your ex-wife is worth $68 billion.
	You are not only the richest man in the world, your wife, your ex-wife, is the richest woman in the world.
	That's ridiculous, is what that means.
	And I don't think Amazon is slowing down anytime soon, by the way.
	So again, shout out to Jeff Bezos, man, you and your drones.
	It is what it is.
	So a Zoom CEO, Eric Juan, $6.6 billion he made in one day.
	Let me say that one more time.
	He made $6.6 billion in one day.
	I think Zoom is now bigger than Starbucks.
	It's bigger than a lot of these companies that you read about.
	And their stock skyrocketed.
	The question now is: did people listening to this, did anybody listen to today's podcast, buy any Zoom stock or own any Zoom stock pre, pre-March 1st?
	If you did own Zoom stock pre-March 1st, you're probably bragging about it to your friend.
	These are the moments that you can brag about these types of things if you own Zoom stock pre-March 1st.
	Do you think Zoom is going to slow down anytime soon?
	Well, the brand awareness is out there and everybody's going to use it.
	Now, the question is: kids are going to go back to school, we hope, eventually.
	So, fewer uses there.
	Will people go back to the office?
	So, yes, I think just sheer volume, it'll have to go down by total number of people using it.
	But, man, they've entered the playing field pretty dramatically here.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I mean, no, no, great point.
	We've learned, you know, a couple key terms that we've learned over the last six months: social distancing.
	That was a word we've never used, face masks, and then essential, right?
	Essential.
	Zoom has taken the word essential and brought it to different levels.
	Zoom has been essential.
	Pat just did the most ridiculous event.
	PHP just did the most ridiculous event all via Zoom.
	You usually do it in Las Vegas.
	You're taking over MGM, 10,000 people, absolute chaos, pandemonium.
	You did it with 10 people in a freaking room.
	You have General Mattis, you got Trey Gowdy, you got Dale, Dale, Dale, Mr. Worldwide Pitbull, all via Zoom.
	And it was an incredible event.
	I mean, what an event.
	What a time.
	What a place to be alive via Zoom.
	And it all happened via Zoom.
	Do you know what feedback we got?
	So every time we do this, we send an email out and we get a survey back.
	We had a two-hour meeting yesterday to read every single survey.
	You know what the survey was?
	Craziest survey.
	The survey was they were able to connect with the speakers better because they looked at them on their camera.
	So they're watching them here versus at convention, you're watching them that's 100 yards away because you got a bunch of people in the room.
	So the connection with seeing their faces was closer to them.
	How weird is it to say I connected?
	And you know what else Alan Lickman said yesterday, which was interesting?
	He says, you ever been to an RNC or DNC convention?
	He says, when you go to RNC and DNC convention, he says you don't hear any of the speakers.
	He says, all it is is the entire time delegates are walking around.
	It's loud.
	It's noisy.
	It's distractions.
	It's this.
	He says, here's the one thing about this year's DNC and RNC.
	You were able to listen to every one of the speakers.
	There was no distractions.
	It was just straight up talking to you.
	So there was nothing being said that you didn't catch.
	So I think this Zoom thing with the direction we're going in right now, I don't think this is going away.
	I don't think this is a model that's going away.
	And I think if they add a couple gamification models to it and they decide to come out with a social side to it, I think this Zoom thing can keep growing.
	Two points.
	Lickman's right about one thing because the speakers were so much more impactful because they weren't having the reporters on the floor interviewing the delegates, right?
	Those dopey delegates that come in from all over the country.
	I think that's the most obnoxious thing about the convention.
	So the speakers were a lot more impactful.
	Is there going to be a competitor to Zoom?
	Can Google step up and really take them on and have a device that's going to be a good thing?
	Well, WebEx had the lead.
	Yeah.
	But they didn't have enough infrastructure to be able to handle it.
	We kept using WebEx, WebEx, WebEx.
	Three times it crashed on us.
	And I said, I'm done with WebEx.
	We left Cisco and we went to Zoom.
	Yeah, Zoom had a big crash last week that made big news.
	Now, here's the other thing that's fascinating.
	Most people say, I never really even heard of Zoom until COVID hit.
	But this guy was a billionaire before COVID.
	His net worth now, the CEO, is $23 billion.
	It went up six.
	So he already was a billionaire.
	So apparently, Zoom was making an impact on some level.
	Did you see the primary Chinese investor?
	He has like 9% and he's worth $11 billion because of Zoom now.
	Unbelievable.
	Can you imagine?
	Do you know the CEO's name now?
	Yawn?
	Eric Wong.
	Eric Wan.
	Eric Wong.
	Two things with that, just to follow up.
	We talked about this initially, I think, you know, five, six months ago.
	Yeah.
	Just being ready for the moment.
	You know, Zoom didn't say, well, hold on, guys, we'll get right with you.
	We got a couple of glitches.
	They were ready.
	I mean, Corona hit, boom, Zoom entered the equation.
	Just talking about being ready.
	But the one thing, and this is kind of shifting topics here, is I read that letter that Seinfeld wrote about New York.
	Yeah.
	And one thing that stuck out to me, we're talking about Zoom.
	Kai, pull up the Seinfeld letter.
	We're talking about Zoom.
	We're talking about remote.
	We're talking about logging in.
	We're talking about, you know, all that fun stuff.
	Something that Seinfeld just, you know, people are calling for the death of New York City.
	Yeah.
	You know, nothing beats just real life human interaction.
	Could you imagine if we were doing this and it was all via Zoom?
	Yeah, maybe people get, you know, a different experience.
	But there is something special about sitting in a room, being with people.
	Like, let's not forget about that.
	As amazing as Zoom is, nothing beats human interaction.
	I don't disagree.
	I don't disagree at all.
	But I think the speed of delivery and messaging and how you can conduct now business internationally through Zoom, I just don't think this is going away.
	Oh, no doubt.
	No doubt.
	It's not going away.
	That's for sure.
	Look, we grew, God, 174%.
	We grew July to July.
	If you take Zoom out, we're not growing 174%.
	How the hell do we grow 174% July to July?
	Zoom has got a lot to do with it, and you're hearing a lot of success stories with other people that are doing the same thing as well.
	By the way, Joe Rogan to Spotify.
	You guys heard about what happened when he went to Spotify.
	Did you guys hear about what happened with Spotify?
	So Rogan goes to Spotify.
	Okay.
	This was last week.
	Kai keeps reminding me, hey, he's leaving.
	He's leaving.
	He's leaving.
	And he even showed me his new set, which is sick.
	I don't know if you've seen his new set, Rogan's new set.
	Really cool news set.
	If you want to put it up and show it.
	Yeah, I love his new set.
	He's got Adisthias.
	It's here in Austin, is it not?
	The new set.
	Press images.
	Let's see if images right there.
	That's the second right there.
	So that's kind of how they're putting this set together.
	It's not over with yet.
	Obviously, they have the new one you can see, I think, on his Instagram post.
	But that's kind of what they're putting together.
	Pretty cool what they're doing at his Austin.
	Not as big as I thought it would be.
	Well, it's creative.
	It's creative to what he's got.
	But go to the data that came back about his podcast on Spotify.
	So it came back.
	The full list of missing episodes on Spotify.
	Okay.
	Owen Smith, a bunch of different names.
	Alex Jones is missing.
	You got Gavin McGinnis is missing.
	Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo is missing.
	Milo Yiannopoulos is missing.
	Another Gavin McGinnis is missing.
	Another Milo is missing.
	Chris Gelia.
	Did you see that?
	Yep, that's right.
	That's right.
	So Adam Bravo.
	Adam sometimes talks about conspiracy theories.
	He's missing.
	Dave Asprey is missing.
	You got a lot of people that's missing.
	You know, huh?
	Steve Greer.
	What's the theme here, though?
	I am hopeful that Rogan's attorneys, when they did this contract, they did it in a way where Rogan was free to keep all the things that he talks about on.
	Because if they control him, I don't think Rogan's the kind of guy that's going to be okay with that.
	I just don't think it's going to work out with Rogan.
	But you cannot put a Tasmanian devil in a cage.
	You cannot do that with a guy like that.
	Rogan's got opinions.
	He's going to get his opinions heard.
	I mean, his deal was $100 million.
	It's not like he wasn't making a lot of money, or he probably could have made close to that.
	Did you remember what Bill Simmons from ESPN?
	Then he started The Ringer?
	You know what he sold to Spotify?
	$200 million.
	$200 million.
	Unbelievable money.
	Bill Simmons.
	He had a network of podcasts through The Ringer, so there was multiple, and he had a lot of people.
	Yeah, he made $200 million.
	One of the most annoying guys in sports, by the way.
	Bill Simmons?
	Very annoying.
	But people aren't.
	He's a brilliant guy, though.
	I didn't say he's not brilliant.
	Why is he annoying?
	Because what I mean by annoying is not from my end.
	Sports, people in sports get annoyed by Bill Simmons because he says the most random things.
	And he sticks to it.
	And half the time he's wrong.
	Half the time.
	That's what I've realized with Bill Simmons.
	That's Bill Simmons.
	Oh, yeah, I guarantee that this was going to happen.
	But guess who else does that?
	Charles Barkley does that.
	Oh, you know, the Black Charles is lovable.
	Sweet.
	Oh, yeah.
	Would you see him mopping the board?
	The thing about Bill Simmons, you know, Bill started as the sports guy in Boston.
	So he did a Yahoo.com blog, right?
	So he was the anti-media guy because I was working in Boston at the time at Fox, and he hated on-air TV people.
	He was always ripping us and just making fun of us in his blog.
	He had a cult-like following.
	Then he went to ESPN.
	You know, people loved him for his writing.
	And then now he was ahead of the game, though.
	I got to give him credit.
	In 2014, he understood what was going on with the blah or with the podcast and really got it going at ESPN.
	And then when he started The Ringer, that was the main part of their business.
	I think the print or the online version of the articles is just to support it.
	But 200 mil.
	I guess you need a deep dive to just see what everybody was talking about here on these episodes with Rogan.
	But there's nothing he wouldn't know going into this new deal with Spotify.
	That's the deal.
	I'm a little concerned about that because I don't know about not keeping those on.
	Those are some of the best ones he's done that the viewers were talking about.
	You're going to take those off because he's controversial.
	They took off the one where Joey Dia says what he used to do with comedians back in the days.
	I don't know if you've heard it.
	The female lady comedians.
	The female lady say you'd come and do this and you get 10 minutes to talk and they took that one out.
	I think the common theme here is they took off the controversial stuff.
	This isn't a left or right thing.
	Because you got Nick Kroll on there, who's a liberal Hollywood actor.
	You've got Jordan Peterson, I think they took off as well.
	Joey Diaz, comedian.
	I don't think this is a political thing, because I think it's just a controversial thing.
	They don't want to do that.
	Well, that's the whole thing, though.
	But that's the whole thing.
	So you can't create controversial content on Spotify.
	Then is that what Spotify is branding itself as?
	Sure.
	Cannot just talk about anything on Spotify.
	And they're going to be forced now to answer this question, don't you think?
	Yeah, Rogan's following.
	They have to have some sort of statement.
	I think they would.
	What does it say on the top right?
	Rogan's podcast is moving exclusive to Spotify after signing a $100 million deal, and his fans are not happy about what episodes are being left behind during the transition.
	Just to be clear, we're not going to see any Rogan on YouTube moving forward.
	Only short clips based on what Kai's telling me.
	I've also heard that it's going to be a segue from like, it's still apparently on YouTube, but then it's going to be a segue.
	But by the end of the year, I heard December last December, it goes 100% Spotify.
	Meaning you're not going to find him at all.
	Only ads.
	Only ads, but it's 100% on Spotify.
	And by the way, the one thing I like about Spotify, you know, I hope YouTube does this.
	I kind of like the 3.0 speed that they have.
	Some people can listen to stuff 3.0 speed on Spotify has 3.0.
	3.0, Pat.
	3.0 speed.
	You know, a logical reason these aren't there.
	I mean, possibly, maybe Rogan couldn't afford those U-Haul charges and get that extra truck to move out of California to Texas.
	So he had to leave those tapes.
	You've got to give all the credit back to Gavin Newsom, Governor Newsome.
	I mean, you know, when you're that special, you're that special.
	You know, you have a whole Did you answer the chances that you're leaving California?
	I think we skipped over that.
	What are the chances you're leaving California?
	It's painful to think about because California, you know, is a place that people love when they're there.
	Listen, like I said.
	What about you?
	I'm keeping all my options open.
	You said slim the none.
	What are the chances you're leaving California?
	Good.
	Good.
	Eventually.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Yeah, probably.
	You're going to leave California.
	I haven't likely.
	You know, there's a good chance.
	I mean, who knows?
	But it would have been a firm and emphatic no five months ago.
	100% no.
	No way ever.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Nothing would drive.
	So the coronavirus exposed a lot five months ago.
	I'm going to California.
	Did you hear about what happened with the church?
	Who's that one pastor?
	MacArthur?
	MacArthur, John MacArthur, who's the big pastor in LA.
	If you can look him up, they've been leasing their church from L.A. County for 45 years.
	Okay?
	And so they did their service.
	I just type in MacArthur.
	Type in MacArthur.
	MacArthur.
	You were in the right direction.
	MacArthur, T-H-U-R.
	Kai, T-H-U-R.
	Kai.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Kai, just type in.
	You had it.
	MacArthur Pastor, LA, L.A.
	Okay, there we go.
	Then go to news.
	Go to news.
	Top.
	Yeah, there you go, news.
	Got it?
	Okay.
	Here's what happened.
	Mayor Garcetti, you know what they're doing?
	So he opened up his church and he says, you can't do anything with me.
	I'm the church.
	I can open up and have my members come in and see this.
	He goes against all the laws of California and he says, you cannot tell me not to do this.
	They've had a 45-year lease in L.A.
	And you know what Garcetti does?
	They're now canceling his lease.
	And they took away his parking spots so members couldn't go there.
	And they said, you don't have the lease anymore.
	So they took it away from him.
	This is ugly stuff.
	This is ugly stuff.
	And that's what California is doing.
	And, you know, they think they can get away with it.
	The best part about competition is I love that this is happening.
	Because when you are number one, okay, California says we are the number five economy in the world.
	When you become number one, a couple things follow when you become number one.
	If you're not too careful, arrogance comes.
	You think you're untouchable comes.
	And anytime you act arrogant, pompous, and you think you're untouchable, you officially have a target on you from many people.
	That's what's happened with California right now.
	People are going to be exploiting that non-stop.
	By the way, some bad news for you.
	I don't know if you heard about the bad news.
	There's always bad news for you.
	Did you guys hear about this?
	Paul's not going to like this too much.
	Paulie's going to be furious about this.
	Moving forward, Pakistan is no longer accepting dating apps like Tinder and Grinder.
	It's done.
	So Paul E is done.
	Pauli, if you're listening, Pakistan, no more Grinder, no more tourists.
	Put down the beats of Paul.
	Put down the video games.
	Put down the grinder app.
	Well, I'm worried about that guy.
	And on top of that, this is one of the things I'm very proud of India.
	I am so excited about India.
	We just hired a couple more Indian engineers here from India.
	One of them lived in the slums of India.
	She's not working with us.
	She's a beast.
	And the other analyst we hired, they're both beasts.
	I've seen them.
	Quality quality, guys.
	India bans 118 Chinese apps.
	Flat out bans.
	Okay?
	118 apps, India bans.
	India is publicly just saying, we don't want to have anything to do with you.
	WeChat, you know, WeChat?
	You ever heard of WeChat?
	No longer in India.
	They banned 118 Chinese apps.
	And a statement made, issued by India's Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology, he said, this decision is a targeted move to ensure safety, security, and sovereignty of Indian cyberspace.
	What a thing to do and what a thing to say.
	Do you think India's trying to say we're not afraid of China?
	We want to compete and do something and take over China?
	I don't know.
	It's going to be a lot of work for them to do that, but they're headed in the right direction.
	Shout out to India.
	I think they're basically saying we're skeptical of any Chinese app that's probably stealing our data, spying on us, and we're not going to give them that advantage anymore, right?
	Wipe it out.
	Do you take it as a message or do you just take it as they're just trying to make sure cyberspace is good?
	No, no, no, it's a message.
	Cyber security.
	Do you think it's a message?
	I think it's all the above.
	If there's one thing I know about Patrick Bett David, if there's one thing I know, he wants to push back against China.
	Here we go.
	I mean, am I wrong on that?
	I mean, you think China is coming for America.
	Clearly, this is your top.
	Other than taxes these days, other than potential exit taxes, China, number one on your agenda.
	Let me ask you.
	And I don't disagree with that.
	Okay, there you go.
	I know where you're going with that.
	I agree with you on that.
	But am I wrong in saying that?
	No, absolutely not.
	Okay, so you like this.
	When you see news like this, you like this.
	I love the fact that India's not afraid.
	Yes.
	I love the fact that India's not afraid, and they're making a statement.
	That's what I love about what India is doing right now.
	I love the fact that they're not afraid, and they're saying, you know what, the hell with you.
	Here's what we're doing.
	We're not okay with this.
	We're not okay with what you're doing.
	There's no way in the world we're going to support something like this.
	I don't know.
	I'm all for it.
	I like the fact that they're standing strong to China and they're not scared of them.
	You mentioned the other day, obviously you lean a little bit pro-capitalism, pro-right on the agenda.
	I am 100% capitalist.
	Everything else, I'm open to debate.
	Clearly, 100% capitalists.
	And I brought up the other day, you said whoever's tougher on China is who I would vote for.
	So I gave an example.
	I said, you know, on the Democratic side, if you have Tulsi Gabbard on the left, hypothetically, everybody, hypothetically, on the Democratic side, and you have someone like John Kasich on the right, who's a little bit more moderate, you would vote for the Democrat who is harder on China, stricter on China than a Republican.
	There's no question about it.
	Tell me about it.
	If Tulsi Gabbard is running against Kasich, say Kasich's the Republican nominee, and Tulsi Gabbard's the Democratic nominee.
	So here's a woman who has served in the military, I think, 16 years, and she's been around for a while.
	Even though she's younger, she's energetic.
	39 years old.
	39 years old, but it wasn't a military.
	She served.
	And Hillary can't stand her, which is a big sign for Republicans because Hillary and her went into the biggest feud.
	I don't know if you remember this, but she said she's owned by Russia.
	She's owned by Russia and her famous line and all this stuff.
	The person who's owned by Russia claims everybody else is owned by Russia.
	So interesting when people make comments like that.
	Well, she would probably know.
	She will probably know.
	And Tulsi's like, wait a minute.
	And Tulsi came back the next day and boom, her video went off, got millions of views.
	I like Tulsi's, you know, she's got a back point.
	She's strong.
	And if she's against China going against Kasich and Kasich says, let's make China work and drop the tariffs.
	Yeah, I'm probably going to lean towards.
	It's pro-China, though, at this point.
	It's not about pro-China.
	Who is for sale?
	This is not about who's pro-China.
	Who's for sale?
	Because China is willing to buy.
	Look, when Biden wanted to, when years ago, Biden voted to bring China in the World Trade Organization.
	Why would you bring China into the World Trade Organization while they're doing everything they can to take all your inventory and your technology and all your patents away from you?
	What do you mean bring them into the World Trade Organization and get away with crime?
	Who the hell would want to bring somebody like China into the World Trade Organization?
	They're not friends and allies with you.
	They're not on your side.
	They don't think the way you do.
	They simply want to take everything from you and be held accountable for nothing.
	That's what Biden voted for.
	I mean, yeah, of course, if when you're saying who is for China, it's not about who is for China.
	It's about when you go into the negotiation room and the doors are closed, who do I trust in that room?
	Because when you go into the negotiation room, the cameras are not there.
	I don't see the cameras.
	Who's going to be pushing them?
	And when you come out of the meeting, you watch to see who's upset.
	If you come out of the meeting and you see China's got the biggest smile on their face, guess what that means?
	They got what they want.
	If China comes out and they're angry at Trump, okay, good.
	I kind of like that a little bit because the deal is probably not happening because he's not giving up the tariffs.
	So it's not about who's for China, who's not.
	It's who doesn't have the backbone to go and stand up against a regime that powerful that just invested $400 billion into Iran, that is doing an economic hitman job on Africa, that is buying up land to own Africa, that is buying up land to own Iran.
	China.
	China wants to indirectly own the oil in Iran.
	People are not seeing this stuff.
	This is the stuff that's taking place.
	I had a conversation.
	I don't know if I told you guys on the podcast.
	I don't think I told them on the podcast.
	I had a call last week with a very powerful military general.
	Did I tell you about the story or not?
	Very private, how should I put this?
	Private conversation with a very powerful general from Shah's military.
	He's in his 80s.
	We had a very strong conversation together last week.
	And we talked about what are your thoughts about China investing $400 billion in Iran.
	He says if Iranian people don't understand and do something about this and turn this down, Iran's going to be owned by China for the next few decades.
	Just like how UK owned Iran for decades when they first had that oil company that was owned by the UK and eventually OPEC, you know, this whole thing became British petroleum and all that stuff started with a partnership of Iran.
	Yeah, I don't trust anybody that can be bought and is for sale with China.
	What can the Iranian people even do, though?
	What can the Iranian people do?
	What do you mean, what can the Iranian people do?
	Meaning there's got to be protest, What the has that led to in Iran over the day?
	It led to a revolution in 1979.
	What are you saying recently?
	No, what I'm saying to you is in 1970, 1979, if you didn't want the Shah, he left.
	If you got that kind of a backbone, why don't you do it again?
	Well, didn't they try to do that somewhat recently?
	Yes.
	That happened.
	And it wasn't.
	No, they stopped.
	They tried to do it and stopped.
	But here's the other part.
	I believe if they do it this time, Iran, and they continue, I do believe Trump will help them.
	Because I don't think Trump is okay with China trying to own Iran.
	I don't think so.
	And I think Trump will support the Iranian people, the Iranian people, not the government.
	Why would the regime like just think about it from the regime?
	What are they thinking when they're accepting $400 billion?
	What's their money?
	You're for sale.
	Okay.
	Buddy, you are for sale.
	If you're taking $400 billion from China, you're telling your people of Iran you're for sale.
	How are they spending it to the people?
	I don't know.
	I'm not up on Iranian politics.
	How are they?
	It's very easy how you spin it to people.
	Okay.
	Remember when we had Naomi Park on a couple weeks ago and she did the interview?
	She's the one that escaped North Korea, went to China.
	Crazy story.
	Was bought as a virgin for $200, eventually went to South Korea and then came over here, gave a talk, got 50 million views in 24 hours.
	That's crazy.
	And she's going to be here today.
	We're going to have lunch with her today, by the way.
	You guys will get a chance to meet her.
	She's going to be here today, and we're going to potentially do some kind of collaborations with her, but I'm excited about her being here today.
	So when I was talking to her, and I said, so tell me, why is North Korea able to do what they're doing right now?
	I said, who has North Korea's back?
	China.
	China.
	So let me get this straight.
	The same country that invested in Iran $400 billion has North Korea's back.
	Wait, what?
	Yeah.
	Right?
	You have North Korea's back and you invest into Iran and the Iranian government is willing to accept $400 billion?
	Yeah, and that's the problem.
	And then did you see how China is going to double their nuclear arsenal in the next few years?
	North Korea just said the same thing.
	Do the Iranian people have the ability to pull it off, though, as ruthless as that regime is, and to whatever levels they would go to squash it.
	They do.
	No, no, no.
	It's not about, I don't think they do.
	Listen, never underestimate the power of people.
	I need battery here.
	Never underestimate the power of people.
	And they would need the full support of the U.S., which they potentially could get.
	Under Trump, they would.
	Not under Biden, they would not.
	But under Trump, they would.
	So, you know, when you're talking China, that's where I go with China.
	You got to be very, very careful with China.
	You got to keep an eye out.
	Again, it goes back to the same thing.
	Russia told you they're tough guys and don't mess with them.
	China doesn't tell you.
	China uses proxy.
	You got to be careful with that.
	By the way, a couple of things with sports.
	Zlatan, whom I'm a very big fan of.
	If you've not watched his documentary, you got to watch it.
	He's going back to the ACA.
	He's going AC Milan.
	He's going back to AC Milan.
	By the way, one of the coolest things in the documentary I was telling you about to watch, this kid is 16, 17 years old.
	He's gone with his agent, his manager, who's in his late 40s, early 50s, to sign a contract.
	His manager is nervous before signing the contract, and he tells his manager, this 17-year-old kid says, why don't you act like you've been here before?
	Calm down, buddy.
	You know, that's the it factor, right?
	I mean, he had it every day.
	Are you kidding me?
	Why don't you act like you've been here before?
	And the manager listened to him, right?
	He like minded to him.
	You got to come back into his business.
	You got to watch this.
	And by the way, I know Messi said he's leaving.
	He wants to go to Manchester.
	There's a lot of stuff going on.
	NBA, you had Chris Paul and them lost with the whole referee delay of game.
	You had the other side.
	The Bucs are down too.
	Oh, wait.
	So very weird.
	Denver advances with two points.
	Interesting things going on.
	Denver series.
	We won't go too deep in sports.
	Lose all our listeners are.
	But you know what?
	For you, you've been in the sports world your entire career, pretty much.
	You did some stuff with Jordan.
	When you were covering the Bulls, how was it working with Michael Jordan?
	It was unbelievable, really.
	I mean, to this day, I mean, there's never anything I could do that will cap that or do anything.
	And then just watching the last dance, it was crazy because I was in the middle of all that for three years.
	I arrived in Chicago when I was working for NBC the day Rodman did, basically.
	So the first thing I did was cover that press conference.
	So it was unbelievable.
	Craziest story.
	Give us a crazy story.
	You know what?
	It's just because I worked for the NBC station, we were able to be around the bulls even more because the games were on our channel.
	You know, just being able to interact with Michael in times that you wanted, and people go, what's he like?
	I mean, he is literally amazingly cool.
	I mean, I think that came across in the documentary that he's nice to people.
	He dealt with the media.
	He cared.
	I mean, clearly it was all because social media wasn't there.
	But we also hosted a show on Sunday nights with Dennis Rodman, okay, which was probably the number one show in Chicago every Sunday night after the 10 o'clock news.
	And Rodman would come on these shows drunk, okay?
	Straight up drunk.
	Oh, so showing up.
	All of the above.
	So you'd know Rodman was there because you could smell Benny Hana in the building.
	So he would come from Benny Hana, him and Carmen Electro.
	They would do their thing after a game.
	So we would do it in May, right?
	That's when the shows would be live.
	We used to do them at Michael Jordan's restaurant.
	So Rodman would show up.
	He'd smell Benny Hanna.
	He'd drop his wallet and you'd see all his cash.
	He'd throw it on the table.
	And then he'd go do his appearances.
	I mean, just some random stories about him.
	Just go, you know, we had the opportunity to go out with him, you know, party with Rodman.
	He would drink kamikazes by the dozen and just pound them.
	He'd order them by the dozen.
	He'd stack them up.
	He'd crush them.
	He'd be out until 3 a.m. and then he'd make practice.
	So we used to do the show live at Michael Jordan's restaurant.
	This is in May during sweeps, right?
	Where you try to save your best shows and craziest.
	I saw Jenny McCarthy at the Bulls game that afternoon, right?
	They were playing the heat in the playoffs.
	And I saw Jenny go, Jenny, why don't you come by Michael Jordan's restaurant tonight?
	You know, we'll do the show.
	Okay, all right.
	You know, that's what she was doing that NBC sitcom that she had.
	So what happened was the NBA playoffs got pushed a little bit late that day, so our show didn't start till 11.
	That meant Rodman could drink more.
	Okay.
	So he shows up.
	He shows up at Michael Jordan's restaurant in a Chicago police officer uniform with his hands handcuffed to himself.
	Now, the other funny thing is, Jay Leno was in town doing his shows live in Chicago at the state theater the whole week.
	So we had him on the show that night too.
	So Rodman did the whole show with his hands handcuffed to himself.
	So as they were about to start the show, the Florida, and this is a live audience at Michael Jordan's restaurant.
	If this story gets boring, tell me.
	But they start doing the countdown.
	Okay, guys, you're on at five, four.
	Rodman turns and goes, bro, I am so effing wasted.
	Except he used the word.
	That's what he said, right?
	And you're live.
	So then the show starts.
	He starts talking trash about Pat Riley doing this and that.
	We had Jenny McCarthy on there.
	He was doing some inappropriate things.
	But at the end of the show, we brought Jay Leno out because it was his birthday.
	So we took this big sheet cake we got for him and Leno stuck his face in it and goes, like that, right?
	And then Rodman did the same thing.
	So Rodman sticks his face in the cake, does this, and then falls back.
	All of a sudden, you hear all these glasses shatter.
	He broke, we broke like 20 wine glasses at Michael Jordan's restaurant.
	Needless to say, the next week we were doing the show at Planet Hollywood.
	No more Jordan cut us off.
	Typical Tuesday night, Dennis Rodman's night.
	Just last week while we're doing our conference, Ricky is here.
	Ricky says, Hey, my cousin was at a nightclub this last week, and look who was at the nightclub.
	I said, who shows me a picture?
	Rodman getting hammered.
	Just last week.
	Rodman's uniform.
	Can I tell you one Rodman story?
	And I got a picture to back it up.
	So my son, who was six years old at the time, was obsessed with the Bulls because he knew I worked there and he just loved everything about Michael.
	You played that song, Adam, right?
	For the Bulls intro.
	So my son got down the perfect Ray Clay impersonation at six years old.
	Hey, no, the starting lineup for your Chicago, right?
	So he did that, you know, with that song in the background.
	So we were staying at a hotel in Newport, and my son goes, Hey, dad, do you think we'll see any celebrities?
	I go, who knows?
	Who knows?
	Dash, you know, Kobe lives here.
	You never know who we're running here.
	Rodman's around here.
	I'm checking in.
	My wife is around the corner.
	She goes, You never believe who's here.
	Rodman.
	So he walked through.
	Rodman would stay in because Rodman lived in Newport.
	You'd always see him in Orange.
	Yeah, I know exactly where he lives in Newport.
	Okay, so we were staying at the Island Hotel.
	I go, well, let's go see Robin.
	Let's go see him.
	We check in, and it was 11 o'clock in the morning, maybe 11:30.
	And we go back by the pool, and in this back room, he's sitting at this private table with four cougars, for lack of a better word, just loving everything that he was saying.
	Laughing at everything he said.
	I go back there, and he was probably a little tipsy.
	I go, Dennis, hey, hey, I want to say hi.
	My son's, this is Dash.
	Hey, man, likes Laker hat.
	So we go, hey, Dennis, remember Chicago back in the day?
	I think he kind of remembered or whatever.
	So all of a sudden, I go, Hey, Dennis, my son can do the Bulls impersonation of Ray Clay doing it.
	He goes, Play it.
	I had the song on my phone, so we do it.
	And then my son does the whole thing.
	And then he goes, Head forward from Southeast Oklahoma State.
	You.
	He points at Robin.
	But Rodman loves you.
	Yeah.
	So, but show the picture.
	Kyle, you have that?
	So that's Rodman at 11 o'clock on a like Wednesday morning.
	You're nice milk and coffee on the table.
	That's good.
	What's in his hands?
	Dead soldiers.
	What's in his hands?
	That's your son right there.
	It's a lovely family.
	That's cool, man.
	Anyway, Robin's the best.
	That's the good thing about these things, man.
	When you're in the sports world, you got a lot of great stories with that.
	But, you know, as we're going to wrap up here, I'm trying to see what story to pick.
	I got a few of them.
	CDC.
	Let's talk about CDC here.
	I don't know if you guys saw the reports or now.
	Okay.
	Adam, I'm going to go to you first.
	So reports came out.
	I don't know if you guys are listening to this, if you heard about the CDC reports.
	Okay.
	Kai, if you want to pull it up so we can see one of the articles as well.
	COVID cases decrease from CDC.
	On their site, by the way, on their site, on their site.
	I'm sure you'll figure out which one it is at this pace.
	It may take us a couple weeks when Kai's on it, but we will get it.
	Okay.
	94% of all the deaths from COVID-19, other conditions are listed in addition to COVID-19.
	These causes may include chronic conditions like diabetes or hypertension, Anderson said in a statement provided to CNN by CDC.
	In 6% of the death certificate that lists COVID-19, only one cause or condition is listed.
	The underlying cause of death is a condition that began the chain of events that ultimately led to the person's death.
	92% of all the deaths mentioned COVID-19.
	COVID-19 listed as the underlying cause of death on 6% of those, which means what?
	Out of everybody that died, only 6% COVID was the main and only case.
	94%, there were other causes.
	So when they said COVID has killed this many people have died because of COVID, it's not the main cause.
	It's what they had when they died due to other reasons as well.
	Thoughts.
	Pat, we should be outraged as American.
	I don't know why we're not.
	I mean, we should be revolting about this.
	This is disgusting.
	It's destroying the country, the stuff that we're believing.
	I take the Kirk Cousins approach for the Minnesota Vikings.
	I respect it.
	I'm not living in fear in it.
	I'll give you two quick stories.
	A business partner, a good friend of mine, is a very renowned plastic surgeon.
	He told me, this is the meetings they have, that when they do autopsies, they test for COVID.
	If you test positive, no matter if you died of a gunshot wound, a car accident, or cancer, you will be listed that you died of COVID.
	Fact.
	Number two, have a very good friend in California that her and some other people went to go get tested just to see, right?
	They went to the VA to do it because they could do it there.
	It was free, et cetera.
	So the line was so long, they filled out their paperwork when they got there, but the line was so long, they bailed.
	A week later, they get a positive COVID test result in the mail, even though they didn't take the test.
	So none of this stuff surprises me.
	I think we should be way, way, way more outraged at these stories than we are.
	Well, I tell you what, we had a couple of our guys that got tested in California, okay?
	And the wife came out positive, the husband came out negative, and the wife's like, I promise you, I don't have anything.
	So she flies to Florida.
	When she flies to Florida, she gets tested that same morning when she flies to Florida.
	Guess what?
	The results come out in Florida.
	Within 12 hours, the results are negative.
	And then you heard the 75 NFL players that were falsely tested, positive, you know, and nobody talked about it.
	It just all of a sudden was like, let's not bring it up.
	It was how many Pittsburgh Steelers?
	It was like 19 or something.
	19 Steelers tested positive.
	And you know, the media wanted to just run with that.
	Let's shut down the NFL because of this, even though it wasn't true.
	I mean, it's terrible.
	Yeah.
	And then you got the whole story coming back.
	The Rock just announced that himself, his entire family, they had COVID and they recovered from it.
	You said the Kirk Cousins comment very quickly.
	Can you say it slowly so everybody can catch what he said?
	So yesterday, or earlier this week, whenever you're listening to this, Kirk Cousins, well, actually, he did it on a podcast.
	He's a quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings.
	Right.
	He did it on a podcast with Kyle Brandt of the NFL Network, a popular podcast that he has.
	And when COVID came up, you know, Kirk's a very Christian, very faith-driven individual.
	And he said, hey, I don't live in fear of this.
	I would prefer not.
	I'll respect the fact that I have to wear it.
	But hey, if I die, I die.
	Right?
	Meaning, like, he's going to live his life how he has to.
	He's not going to be, you know, flaunting it and try to get it or anything, but he's got enough faith where he thinks, you know, maybe this, according to the data that I have access to, this isn't as bad.
	If I die, I die.
	Right.
	So he got ripped for that.
	So then they had to move his media appearance up one day so he could, so he could kind of like fix that statement a little bit.
	He didn't backpedal from it too much.
	But, you know, what's wrong?
	Why can't you just say, hey, I do respect it.
	It's out there.
	It's real.
	But I'm not afraid of it.
	You know, and at some point, we have to loosen some of the restrictions that we're all living under.
	And if data from the CDC comes out like this, shouldn't that change some of the lift some of these things that we've had to live under for a long time?
	I'm just going to take it back to the conversation we had literally less than a week ago with Matt, Ricky.
	We were sitting back there.
	You know, I don't want to use names.
	The cigar conversation.
	Not the cigar when we were sitting back here.
	Yeah.
	You and Ricky were going at it.
	It was more of Ricky was just asking me a million different questions.
	Yeah.
	But both of them had very entertaining.
	Yeah, great guy.
	Great guy.
	Wild man.
	Hates capitalism.
	Right.
	He's a complete socialist.
	Loves capitalism.
	But they both had COVID.
	Both of them.
	And I asked Matt, I mean, not to put their shit out there, but I was like, so is it real?
	Like, tell me.
	He's like, dude, it kicked the shit out of me.
	But, you know, a handful of days later, I was back up to speed.
	You know, we obviously have our friend Paul.
	He was getting another shout out here.
	He was out of commission for a few weeks.
	Kicked the shit out of him.
	But Ricky said something that was pretty profound.
	He goes, Yeah, I had it too, man.
	This is no joke.
	But you know what I discovered from this?
	And he basically kind of tented me to this.
	It's take care of yourself, bro.
	Like, lose weight.
	If you're 350 pounds, you better lose some weight.
	If you've got diabetes, you got to do something about that.
	If you've got, you know, all these underlying conditions, those are the people that this is truly affecting.
	If you're just a sloppy person, not living your best life, not being healthy, get it together because COVID can come around and kick the shit out of you.
	But if for the most part, if you're living a healthy lifestyle, you're taking care of your health, health is wealth, you'll get the shit kicked out of you with COVID for a handful of days, for a week, you could bounce back.
	I think that's the bottom line, is it not?
	It is.
	But the whole topic here was that 94% of the reasons people died, the number one reason wasn't COVID.
	They happened to have COVID.
	Underlying conditions.
	Underlying conditions.
	Which means the data to be, oh my gosh.
	For example, my dad is 78 years old.
	A couple years ago, he was hospitalized for two weeks, okay?
	Because he had heart issues and he had pneumonia at the same time.
	When he went to the hospital, the doctors were like, ready, something could go down.
	And this could be.
	So everybody went to visit this guy.
	76-year-olds should not be having pneumonia.
	It's not something that if it's 70, you know what it is.
	I don't know if you'd had pneumonia or not.
	I've had it before.
	I don't know if you'd had bronchitis before.
	It kicks your ass if you had any of those two, right?
	So what happens?
	You got to take the right probiotics.
	You got to take the right vitamins.
	You got to figure out a way to stay strong.
	But this data is manipulative.
	This is putting fear into the American people as a form of a tactic to get people to be scared.
	And it got people to agree to shut down and stay home.
	Jobs were lost.
	Tens of millions of jobs were lost because people thought they were going to die from COVID.
	And they're not saying, hey, we made a mistake.
	We had some false reporting here.
	This is a strategy, right?
	I mean, these decisions were made to report it this way.
	Let me just ask a question.
	This is more in general.
	This is obviously CDC here in America.
	CDC is here in America.
	Okay, cool.
	Got that.
	What's the rest of the world saying about this?
	Because it's not like COVID's different in Europe than it is in America.
	The world doesn't care about CDC.
	The CDC is U.S., right?
	Correct.
	Yeah.
	But what do they say?
	Their economies are in shambles.
	They've shut down.
	China's moved on.
	Do you know why China's moved on?
	Yeah.
	Do you know why China's moved on?
	Tell me what.
	Actually, think about why China's moved on.
	Actually, think about why China's moved on.
	They released the hundred days COVID-free, China, and CNBC keeps putting it on their Instagram post.
	Why do you think China is 100 days COVID-free?
	Why?
	Because they're not reporting the truth.
	Because there is no free press.
	You don't have the freedom to press.
	Well, what do you mean it's 100 days?
	How do you know it's 100 days free?
	You don't have an 1.30 Fox BBC there.
	No.
	So, yeah, you believing the stats?
	So when I see CNBC, I'm not talking about China.
	I'm talking about every other country.
	CNBC is a credible channel.
	I mean, this is CNBC, NBC.
	When they say China's now officially 100 days COVID-free, how the hell do you know?
	And you're essentially saying you trust the data.
	How do you know?
	And Adam, I think the point is, maybe 1,000 people did die, but not 90,000.
	And if that's what they're saying, that is a real problem.
	No one's saying COVID doesn't exist or it's not dangerous or you shouldn't take some sort of precautions.
	But 94% of them actually didn't die of the disease.
	And that's like unfathomable.
	You know, something, here's the other part.
	I mean, we can go past the CDC.
	This last one I want to bring up because my friend Jose sent me this.
	He says, hey, Pat, you may want to talk about this.
	This is what's going on in California right now.
	I said, okay, let me look it up.
	At first, when he sent me the post, I'm like, there's no way I believe this thing here.
	Then I went deeper.
	I said, wait a minute, this actually happened.
	So I don't know if you heard about the California Senate Bill 145.
	You and I briefly talked about it, right?
	So, Kai, if you want to pull this up, by the way, when I tell you this at first, you are not going to believe it.
	I didn't understand it.
	I mean, I can't remember my head around.
	Yeah, so this is a bill in California State, Senate, that was passed, would leave the decision of whether individuals convicted of particular sex crimes involving minors must be registered as sex offenders to the discretion of the court.
	Meaning the bill would not shield anyone from the requirement to register as a sex offender.
	Rather, it would leave the decision in eligible cases to the discretion of the presiding judge.
	It would allow a sex offender who lures a minor with the intent to commit a felony, sex act, the ability to escape registering as a sex offender as long as the offender is within 10 years of the age of the minor.
	So if a 21-year-old, if a 21-year-old gets together with a 12-year-old girl, that's not a sex offender.
	That's freaking ridiculous.
	If 21 and 12, as long as it's 10 years, okay?
	This is California.
	And by the way, this is all out there.
	So a big part of it is on protecting the LGBTQ community.
	They're using that as a method of protecting them.
	I've never heard of a bill before, and the senators, the state senator Scott Weiner from San Francisco, Democrats, Assemblyman Susan.
	Tom, defend your people here.
	You're in California.
	What's going on?
	Do you guys care if I just make one quick show?
	You haul?
	Yeah, I'll take two 26-footers.
	Yeah, they'll be going east.
	Yeah, next Thursday.
	Okay, hang on.
	What the hell is going on here, Tom?
	Hey, I can't defend these guys.
	Don't make me speak for them.
	It's unbelievable.
	Did you know this or no?
	I didn't know it until you mentioned it.
	It's unbelievable.
	145 California.
	And, you know, with all the other stuff going on in the world, something like this can sneak under the radar, right?
	What other out there?
	Okay, I can understand.
	I don't want the police to come and get me.
	I can understand if you're talking about a 27-year-old and a 17-year-old.
	Cool, they're doing some weird stuff.
	You know, LGBT.
	You're talking about a 22-year-old and a 12-year-old.
	You're talking about a 19-year-old and a nine-year-old.
	What the fuck are we talking about here?
	That's what are we talking about here?
	That's what they're talking about.
	It's ridiculous.
	19 and a nine-year-old, if it's less than 10 years, you're not a sexist.
	What are we talking about here?
	This is ridiculous.
	How is someone passing this?
	That's California.
	I don't understand this.
	So you asked the question.
	Listen, I have friends who are Armenian, who are having their mom, their dad.
	Glendale is Armenian County.
	Glendale is the second Armenia of the world.
	I mean, everybody in Glendale is Armenian.
	You know this.
	You go to Glendale.
	Everyone's Armenian.
	If you live in Glendale for too long, you will look Armenian.
	That's how Armenian Glendale is, right?
	Matter of fact, I'm not Armenian.
	I'm white in Alabama.
	But Armenians in Glendale who will not leave their parents, who will not leave their families, who will not leave their 22 cousins that they have living in California, they're flat out telling me, I can't do this anymore.
	and everyone's losing it.
	What the hell is going on over here?
	This is some strange things right here, man, when this happens.
	This is freaky, deeky, like insane stuff.
	Here's the scary thing.
	So out of the box, how about the way?
	If anybody's watching this, have any one of you guys been following the story, Senate Bill 143, 145?
	If you have been, comment below on how you feel about it.
	Go ahead.
	No, I was just going to say, even introducing a bill like this should get you knocked out or voted out or something.
	But then to actually get it across and get it passed, it's.
	And ironically, it's sponsored by Senator Scott Weiner.
	Susan.
	In your entire life, you've been called a wiener.
	You know, you're mentally, you have issues.
	But wasn't there another Wiener guy?
	Anthony Wiener.
	Anthony Wiener.
	And he got in trouble for showing his wieners.
	Last names of wieners, man.
	You got to just keep it together.
	Keep it to yourself.
	By the way, I saw this interview last week with your buddy.
	This is a guy that Adam loves.
	He just loves him.
	Who's the guy's name?
	Brian Brian Stelter.
	Stelter.
	I do not love him.
	We all know that the audience.
	The new guy on CNN.
	I love him.
	We have to finish reading entertainment.
	So watch what happens here.
	So they're on C-SPAN.
	He's on C-SPAN.
	They get a call in.
	Here's what happened.
	I just wanted to say thank you for having the CNN anchor on.
	Listen.
	Because over the last three and a half plus months, we're thinking it's going good.
	I've gotten to see the exposure of how the fourth estate has completely been burned down.
	Brian, do you believe in polls?
	I do believe in polls, yeah.
	Okay, very good.
	Well, the last poll that I saw from a reliable source was that in 1970, let's talk about Walter Cronkite for a second.
	The United States believed that the media was giving them real factual information.
	A new poll just came out that said it's completely the opposite.
	So 80% believed in the media in 1970, and now 20% does.
	So 80% doesn't.
	So when I look at that, I look at this as very unreliable sources.
	And you guys always talk about how many times Trump has lied.
	I've calculated that I think with your Chirons and with, you know, I don't know if there's any journalists left at CNN, but I know that, you know, if I were to estimate about 300 different distortions or misinformation that we get out of CNN, and you have to watch them in the airport, which is harsh.
	But if you added all that up to 46 months, it comes out to be 300,000 plus distortions of truth.
	So my thing is here, is that you guys, this is how low you'll go, is that you went out and you made lies and You defamed a child, and then you had to settle out of court to pay this child for distorting information about this young individual.
	So I would say, you know, if anything that's happening at CNN and anybody who buys your book, it's really just one of those things that is dividing our nation.
	And I don't believe in dividing our nation.
	It hurts our great nation.
	You got to hear his response about that.
	CNN is really the enemy of this.
	Coming up in a second.
	And that's my opinion.
	Thank you.
	Brian Stelter.
	I'm grateful for the call.
	And I know that you're not the old person that feels this way.
	There has been a process of radicalization that's happened in this country with media bashing that is absolutely unprecedented.
	You know, 20, 30 years ago, conservatives talked about media bias, and there were some really valid points to that critique.
	It is absolutely true that lots of journalists are based in New York and Washington.
	They're based in big cities.
	They have liberal leadings.
	And mainstream newsrooms are built to make sure that that bias doesn't seep into the news covers.
	And yet, sometimes it does.
	I absolutely acknowledge that.
	Here from Donald Hickory North Carolina.
	Pause that.
	Pause that.
	Okay, go ahead.
	You know, here's the problem with him and his other people.
	You talk about the NBA bubble.
	These guys, these people at CNN and media outlets like that, they live in their own bubble.
	They don't allow any other differing opinion.
	So they're surrounded all day in their assignment meetings and throughout the day by only people that believe one particular thing.
	And then they buy into it and they figure out how to sell it.
	I bet he got in trouble when he got back to CNN for not interrupting the caller sooner or shot or shooting him down or calling him a quack or something.
	I was surprised he actually took there and listened to it that long.
	Adam.
	Yeah, the most shocking part of that interview is I Googled how old Brian Selter is.
	You know how old that guy is?
	47.
	He's 35 years old.
	Dude, he's not aging gracefully.
	He is not age.
	He's not 35 years.
	35 years old.
	That is not a good-looking gentleman at age 35.
	Jesus, can you imagine what he looks like at 45?
	That's the most disappointing part of this entire interview.
	We're going to hit age.
	Kai, 35 years old.
	There it is from Damascus, Maryland.
	Unbelievable.
	Talk about what the media do to you.
	Yeah, I mean, I think, look, the same thing that can be said about CNN can be said about Fox News.
	The same thing that can be said about MSNBC can be said about Breitbart.
	This is the problem with the media.
	We talked about in 1970, 80% of the people believed what was coming out of the media.
	Walter Cronkite, respect.
	20% these days, that's a very, very sad number.
	Media bias is real.
	What I will give him credit for is, like what Tom said, owning up to it.
	He's like, yeah, you know, it's a problem and we got to get better at it.
	So at least we're having the conversation, right?
	It'd be a fascinating topic to go deep into and say, when did it change?
	Right.
	Because the media has always, you know, had their issues.
	And I worked in the media.
	I worked in newsrooms for 15 years.
	I didn't, I didn't, you know, you don't check in.
	You were there in the mid-90s.
	I mean, you're part of the problem, Tom.
	Right.
	You're NBC.
	You're liberal elite.
	I was at the TV station that brought Jerry Springer in to do the nightly commentary.
	Very impressive.
	But, you know, something, something has happened.
	What changed since the 90s?
	Since you and Rodman were taking kamikaze shots, something must have changed.
	China.
	I think China got a hold of our social media and they're blame on China.
	You'll have a safe comfort zone here if you blame it on China.
	80% trusted the media to 20%.
	That's not that.
	And by the way, what Alan Lickman said, the American people, they said the number is just as low with the government.
	So the American people don't trust the media or the government today.
	Who the hell do you trust?
	Who you trust?
	That's exactly.
	That's the question.
	But the best part about this is, hopefully, if you don't trust the media and you don't trust the government, hopefully this will force you to go do your own due diligence and listen to both sides.
	Hopefully.
	Hopefully.
	That is a call to action to everyone out there.
	If you're right-leaning and you're all about Trump, go listen to some liberal-leaning information.
	If you're a leftist socialist, go listen to the other side.
	Form your own opinion.
	It's very easy to get caught up in a vacuum, live in your bubble, and form your own opinion.
	I agree.
	And be dug in.
	And that's my opinion.
	I ain't changing it.
	Yeah, but Pat, wise enough.
	You just mentioned the two entities we distrust the most, the media and the politicians.
	So what are we going to do on Election Day?
	We're never going to find out who wins this thing because we won't believe who's telling us.
	We won't believe who was involved in the election.
	Well, we're going to be in this.
	We're probably going to do the podcast live during Election Day to go through the whole thing.
	And that may be a long time.
	It may be like a six-hour podcast that they like, you know, it'll be a long time.
	Like a Philip.
	And it'll never get bored.
	Are you going to be bathroom breaks?
	I don't know if I can make it not boring.
	I got to wear diapers.
	I got to wear bad words.
	I got to wear diapers.
	Me and Nancy Pelosi.
	Last one.
	Put this video.
	By the way, this next video we're going to show you.
	It's not true, but we got to give credit to whoever did this.
	Speaking of bringing your diapers.
	By the way, this is not.
	This is not.
	Go back.
	Live this morning from New York.
	Hey, good morning.
	Wake up.
	Wake up, wake up.
	It's not real, but it's hilarious.
	Can we actually play the real video, though?
	Can we play the real video?
	Play the real video.
	You know who the real video was with?
	Much respect for Harry Belafonte.
	So Harry Belafonte fell asleep.
	Harry Belafonte fell asleep as well.
	That was who it was.
	Watch Harry Belafonte asleep.
	That's who it was.
	So, you know, again, you got to do your own research, everybody.
	Listen, I said it's not real, but it's still hilarious.
	Second one, Kai.
	De La Comrade.
	Live this morning from New York.
	Hey, good morning, Harry.
	Harry, wake up.
	Harry looks cooler, though, doesn't he?
	And he looks like he's dead.
	Wake up, and he snores in tune.
	Okay.
	This is your wake-up call.
	Okay.
	You know, if I were to go, if I were going, he's got a lot of people.
	He looked dead.
	He didn't look like he was sleeping.
	He didn't.
	By the way, he wrote a book that I don't know if you read his book about his story.
	There's actually, he's there.
	It's a true story.
	Yeah, yeah, it's a true story.
	Harry Belafonte.
	He's got a good job.
	He's got respect to Harry Belafonte.
	He's got a very good story.
	He's had a very good story, very good life.
	Okay, all good.
	I think it's fair to say that we come to the end of our podcast.
	We had a record high today.
	I think we cracked 1980.
	Nice.
	If you enjoyed today's podcast, put a thumbs up and press that subscribe button and the alert so you get alerted every time these things come out.
	And again, it's good to have Tom on as a first time with us.
	A lot of you guys were asking us what's Tom's name.
	I'm going to put it down here.
	Tom Zenner with two N's.
	Tom Zenner, if you want to look him up, Tom Zenner, you can look him up.
	We will do the podcast again.
	Kyle, we schedule for next Tuesday as of right now.
	What's the time that we have a schedule for?
	I believe we are scheduled for next Tuesday if we do.
	It's next Tuesday, same time.
	Stay tuned for it again.
	We'll do it next Tuesday, same time, 8 o'clock.
	Have a great weekend.
	We'll do this again next week.
	Bye-bye.

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