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Jarred Pasta Sauce Taste Test + Best Natural Deodorants! | Dr. Oz | S10 | Ep 171 | Full Episode
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Things go wrong when you wax.
Hair removal?
The ends are gone now.
They're no longer growing due to waxing.
Horror stories.
She got especially concerned when the bleeding wouldn't stop.
Plus, jarred spaghetti sauce.
So many to choose from.
You can get sucked in by the label.
It's always a danger.
What you should know before pasta night.
What Americans realize that these jarred sauces are not what they were promised.
Coming up next.
Y'all ready for season 10?
Yeah!
i love you In my family, we make our own tomato sauce.
It's actually a tradition.
Here you see me at a tomato festival making a big old pot.
It's fun, brings people together.
But the majority of you are buying the jard stuff, which has for years been off-limits, shunned by nutritionists and foodies alike.
It's just mass produced sugar and salt bombs, turning healthy marinara into a stale, tasteful processed food.
But we are challenging all the rules and taking a second look at the pantry staple, including jarred pasta sauce.
Food journalist and author of Dorito Effect, Mark Schatzger, is here to help us out.
I guess he's Mark has been simmering, simmering over the question, has this story of jarred sauces changed?
So please take us through the history of marinara.
Well, the classic American marinara sauce doesn't actually get its start in America.
Goes back to Naples in Sicily, where it was the sauce eaten by Italian sailors, mariners, marinara.
I got it.
Mariner.
So, how do you even learn this stuff, Schatzger?
It's unbelievable.
The story is that their wives would see the fishing boats coming in on the horizon and start to make this sauce.
That's a romantic tale.
It might be true.
But what we know to be true is that like all Italian classic sauces, it is made from fresh, high quality ingredients.
It is simple and uncomplicated and wonderful.
Hundreds of years it is in Italy.
And then we have the big immigration in Europe.
Move forward a couple of hundred years, lots of Americans.
Four million Americans move right here.
Four million Italians move to America.
Eighty five percent of them come from the south.
They brought their beloved sauce.
They started cooking in here.
And they found a land of opportunity.
There's lots of other ingredients.
They started adding things.
Now the most famous example is meatballs.
Spaghetti meatballs is an American classic.
Spaghetti meatballs is not an Italian classic.
You go to Italy and ask for it.
I've done this.
And they look at you like, you're a little funny.
Tell me about spaghetti meatballs.
What's the matter with you?
What are you talking about?
So things really started to get interesting though in the 1980s because that is when the classic Italian sauce moves from the stove top to the jar.
This is when we really started finding it in supermarkets.
Now some of them came from Italian-American families who marketed their own product.
Some of it came from food companies.
But the big changes that were going to come to jarred sauces came from came from Madison Avenue.
Madison Avenue?
Let's get into this.
By the way, I thought the 80s were all about Rubik cubes.
I don't.
Yeah, Hilton's, Rubik's cubes, and also jarred sauces.
Add that to your 1980s.
A lot of things happened in the 80s to our food.
I think that's one of the things we're realizing.
It's been a generation now, but we're all waking up to this reality.
So from the 80s to the day, jarred sauces changed dramatically.
And that's the big message today.
What is good, what is bad.
So when it comes to actually what changed mostly, besides the fact that they now have super chunky versions?
Oh, there's every different kind you can imagine.
There's ones with meat, there's ones with cheese, there's a garden variety.
I mean, it gets confusing.
You just don't really know what to make of it.
I see the high-end ones, and I'm never really sure, are these high-end ones that have the restaurant label on them really importantly different?
I mean, what have I made that Papa Aziz Bolognese?
Yeah.
Or is it fundamentally something that they're doing to make that a better pasta sauce?
Great question.
Some of this is just empty marketing.
You can get sucked in by the label, it's always a danger, but there's been a backlash.
A lot of Americans realize that these jar sauces are not what they were promised.
They're not like Nana's sauce.
So a lot of companies have been realizing, hey, we got to up our game.
And they really are making an effort to use better ingredients.
Now, all these things cost more money.
So the better quality sauce is going to cost more, but it's better quality..
And listen, I think that's good news.
So he wanted to know exactly what was going on if spending more on George sauces made a difference.
So we looked at the popular sauces out there and we divided them between those that cost more than six dollars and those that cost less than six dollars.
We just picked that number, but it's reflective of the more expensive, the less expensive.
So when it came to the quality of the ingredients, just the absolute stuff that they were using, which one fared better?
More than six dollars.
More than six bucks.
Think about that.
Not surprising, right?
But the question is, what are they doing?
Why is it that the more expensive ingredients matter?
Why is it, why should it matter to us?
So this is one of the biggest surprises I've had in all the research we've done.
We finally found an ingredient list that has that had nothing wrong with it.
We found one of these higher end jarred sauces.
It looked like a recipe.
Wake us up to this.
What kind of ingredient swaps do the low cost jarred varieties of tomato sauce make that might not be in our best interest?
Okay, so you'd think you're buying Italian tomato sauce.
It's going to have olive oil in it, right?
It's going to have tomatoes.
I mean, it's a tomato sauce.
Right.
Wrong.
You find vegetable oil, soybean oil, canola oil, and you also find tomato puree.
Now, what is tomato puree?
It's tomato paste mixed with water.
So what they do, it saves them money, right?
If you're going to send tomatoes, get the water out of it.
It just saves you a lot of transport costs.
They overheat the tomatoes.
You end up getting this metallic off flavor that many of us have tasted in that jarred sauce.
And you lose the tomato flavor.
And the real tomatoes give you what besides taste?
Oh, the real tomatoes.
Listen, we, anyone who's ever made a tomato sauce, know that there's this magic point.
It starts out, it's just olive oil, you put the tomatoes in, it's just hot tomatoes.
You're looking at them and going like, these are hot tomatoes.
And then something happens where it just sort of melts and it starts to condense.
The acids condense, the sugars condense.
It gets a bit more gelatinous and it becomes a tomato sauce.
It has flavor.
There is no substitute for that.
And tomato paste is no substitute for real tomato sauce.
You can tell he loves tomato sauce.
When it came to the issueue of sugar.
Does it matter with the price?
Well, the better quality pasta is also sauce is also better for you.
Explain what you looked at when you examined the sugar.
Yeah, that's exactly.
You know, we talked about that problem you get with this high temperature tomato processing.
You lose the tomato flavor, you get these off flavors.
Well, the companies know that too, so they have to come up with a solution.
And their cheap solution is just to add sugar back in, add some salt.
It doesn't really make up for it, but it does make it palatable.
Now, I should say, if you look hard enough, you can find lower cost tomato sauce with less sugar, but I don't think the flavor is going to be there.
All right, then we also can buy a lower cost sauce.
So we look at some of the labels for those were across the board.
And we found the same thing over and over again.
You pay a little penalty when you try to skim, and it's not a big price difference, as you noticed.
When it comes to fat quality, I wanted to know if price matters as well.
Guess what?
When it's a better quality pasta sauce, spaghetti sauce, you have a better quality fat in there as well.
You actually, interestingly, you found that the higher priced pasta sauces had a little more fat in them, though, overall.
Yes.
And this is confusing for some people because we've been taught to be afraid of fat, but as we both know, the fat story is more complicated.
There are higher quality fats.
Fat is also a more expensive ingredient.
But what we found is in the higher end sauces, there's more olive oil oil is it has flavor.
It's not this neutral oil.
It has flavor.
It helps make the sauce have that classic Italian flavor, which is what it's supposed to have.
Since you brought up flavor, the ultimate test is the flavor.
When it comes to pastasauce, what's the point?
Who cares about nutrients that don't taste good?
So we wanted to ask a real life Italian grandma to see if it were acceptable.
Nona Carabella is here.
Now, Nona, I'm going to be too open about this.
I know, I know, no Nona is going to accept a jarred spaghetti sauce.
I understand that.
But if you had to pick one of these, and you've been tasteing them here, if you had to pick one of these, which one would you think was most acceptatable to you?
Hmm.
There are five choices.
I know, and it really wasn't a hard choice.
The one I would have chosen, if only I had to, is this one.
Four was okay.
It was livable.
And the answer, you all see this?
It was a above six dollars pastasauce.
What makes a tomato sauce good for you?
Well, I'll tell you.
You need San Martano tomatoes from Italy.
Don't be cheap.
You need good olive oil.
Good olive oil.
You need aloe.
The whole house has to smell like aloe for days.
I know.
And it's got to cook.
It's not bad.
I like it.
I like goodness.
All right, when you come to my house I'll make that for you.
Done.
Toast to you.
Toast to yours.
There's hope for jarred spaghetti sauce after all, everybody.
We're going to be putting Mark's Jard Sauce Buyer's Guide online.
Check it out with some criticism from Dona, of course.
When you come back, Mark shows us his four-step solution to any jard sauce to make it taste even better, to make it taste even more homemade.
around We're breaking the rules and Mark Shasker is a rebel with a cause.
He has four steps to turn any jard tomato sauce into an Oz approved meal.
He says there's no sh shame in the jarred sauce game as long as you do it right.
Step one is to saute the vegetables to increase nutrient density.
Makes sense.
Makes sense and you also increase flavor.
So there's no law that says you can't do anything with this that it's somehow perfect and complete.
Have a little bit of fun with it.
All you do is you heat up some olive oil, you chop up some garlic, you chop up some onion.
It's so simple.
You put it, you can hear that sizzle.
Oh yes.
That's what you want to hear.
Smell that incredible cooked garlic.
You put in some onion, saute it.
What you want, you don't want the garlic to burn.
You want the onions to become transparent.
Cook it a little longer than I am right here and then it gets really easy.
Just like making a regular sauce.
Make it translucent.
It's good to go.
And then, you know, you're playing me.
It's that simple.
No, no.
And just let Exactly.
You can just tell me, man, you sort of did make it yourself.
That's right.
Exactly.
Well, you did make it yourself.
Exactly.
Technically.
And listen, you don't have to be limited to just alcohol and onion.
See what's in the vegetable drawer.
You can use celery, you can use carrots, you can use peppers.
My only advice is don't clear out the vegetable drawer.
We're not making vegetable soup.
We're making pasta sauce.
Okay.
Second big step is add some protein.
You like to add your own.
Yeah, I don't like the jar of sauces that come with meat.
You don't you don't know exactly what meat is going in there.
It's mushy sometimes.
It's mushy, a lot of sodium.
One of the best, especially if you're trying to cut back on meat, but you love the sm flavor of meat is pancetta.
This is like Italian bacon, but it's not smoked.
Just saute that, just like you did this stuff.
Don't put in raw.
Saute it, add your sauce.
It just gives this meaty, delicious presence.
But if you want something a little, you know, to stick to your ribs, ground beef, ground veal, do the same thing.
You get some sear on them, get some flavor going, and just add the sauce and turn the heat.
I like ground turkey.
A little leaner.
I still think it's filling.
It adds a little something extra to the pasta sauce.
But listen, you've got a lot of choices here.
You can get your protein wherever you want.
Next step, dairy.
This is the part where it's just so easy.
I don't know why we were already doing this.
Well, in a way we were already doing this because everyone knows how to amazing Parmesan Cheese Oz is on a pasta.
But in the world of dairy, there's so much going on.
Ricotta, well, many of us know ricotta because we put it in lasagne.
You can put it in a sauce like this.
It adds more of a milky taste, not a sharp taste.
You can put mascarpone in.
You can just put in some cream.
You don't need that much.
It lightens the sauce.
It just makes it sweet and delicious.
Makes a huge difference.
Have fun with it.
Next step, easiest of all.
Olive oil, basil.
You know, this is we think about cooking pastasauces a long time.
That's important.
But sometimes what you do at the very end adds the real wow factor.
So these are what we call top notes.
You dress the pasta with olive oil at the end.
You put in some fresh chopped basilic, it just brings it to life.
People will think you are a star chef.
It is delicious.
It makes it taste fresh to me.
Exactly, fresh.
The most important thing you argue is remember the pasta sauce has a certain appropriate ratio with the spaghetti.
Yes.
This is the right ratio.
Well, this is what I do.
In the Az household, we do this.
This is not what you want.
This is this, this, this pasta is oversauced.
One of the biggest differences when you go to Italy is how little sauce on the pasta.
You can really see the pasta.
Now, I have a theory as to why this is happening.
We are all afraid of salt.
So we all cook our spaghetti in unsalty water and it smells super, super bland.
And the only source of flavor and salt is the sauce.
So people like they dump on a bucket.
It's not how it's supposed to be.
So this is my advice, people.
Salt your pasta water.
All that salt does not go into your pasta.
So bear not that you're putting in two or three tablespoons.
It's not all, most of it staying in the water, but the pasta sucks some of it in, and then the pasta has flavor.
So it's very important how you then sauce it, and this is what I want to show you.
I'm going to show you how we do this.
You take a little bit of, you know, it comes out, you drain it, take a little bit of salt, a little more salt, a little more pepper.
First, some olive oil.
Before the pasta sauce?
Before the pasta sauce.
And you dress it with olive oil.
Really simple.
Just use tongs.
You don't have to be delicate about it.
And then I just want you to put two spoons of that on.
One.
Two.
That's all.
Okay, so what we're going for is a coating.
It's like what you do with salad.
You're dressing the pasta.
You're not Look at this.
That's actually pretty good.
You're not.
Exactly.
And then the pasta gets this beautiful.
You see the sauces all over it.
It's like the noodles have become colored.
So toss it around like this, and then at the very end you just add another little bit of sauce.
With a little freshness.
Let me ask you a question.
Is there ever a time to just use straight out of the jar to make pastasauce?
I would say if you're making pizza or you're making lasagna, those can be very labor intensive.
There's no shame in just using the jarred sauce.
But you've got to be careful with lasagagna, because if you have a very thick sauce, those lasagna noodles absorb the water, so your lasagna comes out and it's like a raisin, it's dry, it's like burnt out.
That's like what happened.
If it's a really watery sauce, you're pouring the water off.
So a little trial and error, you have to make sure you get a sauce that isn't too thick, isn't too runny.
I'm trying the Shasta Technique, very, very valuable advice.
As always, I appreciate it.
We'll be back right.
I'm eating.
I'm eating too.
Now, next, an investigation into deodorant you don't want to miss.
Should you be switching to all natural varieties and do they even work?
We partnered with Good Housekeeping to put them to the test.
That's coming up.
Whether you're looking to make the switch to a natural deodorant or you've been using your same brand of antiperspirant for years, we all want to know, is it doing the job it should be?
And is it safe?
To find out, we partnered with Good Housekeeping to create a deodorant test lab right here in our studio.
And we are investigating the natural, the stick, and the spray deodorants to see which are the best to conquer your three most pitiful problems.
Pardon the pun.
Like body deodorant.
You like my jokes?
Yeah.
Yeah, all right.
It's still pitiful the jokes, aren'tt they?
And then there's sweat, and you all worry about sweat.
She knows.
We'll find out that and a little more about you in a second.
And finally, those dreaded white marks that always end up on your favorite black shirt.
Aren't they terrible?
I'll fall.
Oh, let me see yours.
Okay right now.
You're okay right now, but time will tell.
Okay.
Joining me now from Good Housekeeping Institute's Health and Beauty Lab is beauty director April Franzino.
So it's interesting, when you're looking for the best deodorants at Good Housekeeping, you must have a strategy.
You guys are so organic.
We do, we definitely do.
So we first start by looking at innovations in the market.
So there are all sorts of different forms of deodorants and antiperspirants coming out now.
There are wipes, there are sprays, there are even lotions and creams and serum formulas inspired by skin care.
So we want to know whether those really work because it's exciting to see new technologies, but you know, you're not going to want to try something that won't work for you.
So we test every set variant on twenty five to thirty women in their real life over two weeks.
They give us their evaluation on everything from odor protection to sweat protection, irritation on their skin, whether they transfer on their clothes.
So we really look at every attribute.
So you'll answer all of our big questions.
Thank you.
We're going to put some of these ideas to the test with the most popular natural deodorants, sick spray, antiperspirants, everything, all that's getting tested today.
Welcome, come on next to me.
You're going to help me out there.
So here's the deal.
The first is the BO test.
Yes.
The body odor test.
Now, I don't know if you've thought this through, but I suspect you have.
When you're looking for a good deodorant, what does it have to do?
Well, it has to keep me fresh all day and it has to last all day.
You know, you don't want to be that person who, you know, other people inch away from when you're in close quarters, so.
Yes.
We've all lived through that.
I've got your little model here.
These are two different axles.
You can see the levels of the skin in front.
Pink skin, it's all you see when you look at it with your eyes, but microscopically, if you blow it up, there are all these little holes.
And in these holes, you've got stuff coming out.
It's sweat.
It's supposed to be there.
It doesn't naturally smell.
In fact, it's sterile when it comes out.
But things happen.
So April, walk us through the difference between a deodorant and an antiperspirant just to get us all on the same page.
So there's a big difference.
So a deodorant, in itself, contains ingredients like fragrance and essential oils that help mask the scent that's coming out.
So it doesn't change the actual sweat.
Right.
You're only getting fragrance, basically like a perfume for your underarms, from a deodorant alone.
I like that.
That perfume.
But it does cover it up.
You can't tell it's there.
That's true.
But you'll be wet.
You'll still be perspiring.
So for antiperspirant, on the other hand, what we're going to show here is this tape is basically our it signifies antiperspirant for us and what that does is it actually plugs your sweat duct so you'll you won't get the odor if the wetness comes through because it gets plugged by the antiperspirant as you see here so that doesn't look as appealing yeah it does not but it's appealing when you don't have wet underarms so that's where the idea is so which is better at tackling the
actual odor the body odor interestingly enough antiperspirant which you're used to usually see them in combinations so antiperspirant deodorant combinations they're usually more effective at tackling body odor because they tackle it in a two pronged approach so they actually kill the bacteria that cause the odor, they neutralize that, in addition to stopping the sweat from coming out of the pores like we're seeing here.
So you'll get a longer lasting odor protection from an antiperspirant deodorant combo.
But some folks don't like the antiperspirants.
And there are all these natural deodorants that have come out because they're worried about aluminum.
Have you ever heard these rumors at all?
Absolutely.
Can I just say one thing?
Now, I've studied this.
We've had this battle in my household.
There have been no studies to date that have confirmed any substantial adverse effects of aluminum that could contribute to problems.
The one that was most feared was breast cancer.
Yes, I understand it.
It's not natural.
I personally don't like to use antiperspirants.
I'd rather just sweat it out.
I figured it was, I just don't like think it's dangerous to do that.
But these natural products, what do they use?
What works for them?
So they actually contain a mix of ingredients, usually natural oils like coconut, which you see here, baking soda, essential oils, and they all sort of work together to stop the odor.
They form a little coating under your arms, and that helps.
But they're not all created equal, so we're going to do a little sniff test here.
So you made a concoction of natural odor and you put it under real people's axles, theoretically.
So smell that, tell them what you smell.
Look at her eyes, look at her eyes.
Mm, it's okay.
It smells very tropical, like coconut-based.
I think pina colada.
Yeah.
You put rum in this, wouldn't you?
Ah, yeah.
This is very good.
Now show it.
That's good.
Now, smell this.
Oh.
Whoa.
I can even smell it.
Oh.
No.
That smells like armpits mixed with gym socks mixed with disappointment.
This is like old cat pee.
Yes.
Cat pee.
All right.
Wow.
So, obviously, this is really bad.
Yeah.
And this is actually quite nice.
So, what's the difference between the two?
So, there's really no difference at all.
The difference is in people's body chemistry and the ingredients sometimes in the products.
So it's a lot of trial and error with natural deodorants.
You should use it for a couple of weeks, see if you're getting the odor protection you're looking for, and if not, you might have to switch to something else.
Let me be clear.
You could have the exact same product making you smell wonderful, but your mouth smells terrible.
Yes, and that's because your bacteria are just different in every single person.
So.
Yeah, this is a little gift from the show to you.
Thank you.
Next up, this sweat test.
Linda, whom we met earlier, Uber athlete, she's been working up a sweat on the treadmill.
Now, out of exercise, when do you feel like you need an antiperspirant?
Probably like just the daily stress of life, you know, running around, doing arrangements, grocery shopping, the kids, multitasking, like everything.
I sweat a lot.
Okay, so Linda did a little experiment for us.
Before the workout, she had two products applied.
One under one axe, just to, you know, you had yodin under one and antiperspirant on the other, and you put paper towels to see if it would work.
I did.
If there's a real difference.
Because some people think they sweat, they don't really sweat that much, other people more than they think.
Are you ready to see how the products all stood up, guys?
Yeah.
Okay, let's see the antiperspirant towel first.
The antiperspirant, not the natural.
No, the antiperspirant, the one that will help to keep you Oh, Pierre, you hold this.
Yeah.
No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Sorry.
That's actually a cocktail napkin, it's early in the day for that, but it's nice.
It is dry.
Okay, let me see the this is the natural product, the deodorant.
It's a little wetter, but not a huge difference.
It's not tragically different.
No, I don't feel that much different on either side.
I feel sweaty, but not massively sweating on one side or the other.
So how does this work?
The antiperspirant, you showed us how it works better to control sweat.
Yeah.
So over a full day and through a work, like a long workout, it should work better to control your sweat because it actually issues up your sweat glands and prevents the moisture from coming out.
But it is important to use it correctly.
So one trick that we always tell people to do is to apply it at night, which is something that people don't usually do.
And that's because it absorbs overnight.
And then in the morning, you'll get the protection for the whole day.
And it also will prevent any transfer on your clothes and staining that.
You know, my wife told me that.
I thought it was the dumbest advice ever.
She was right.
She was right.
Oh my goodness.
Did you know that?
No.
Yeah.
That's true.
And you have another, another hack I thought.
Yes.
So another interesting thing to keep in mind when you're using deodorants in general is to actually exfoliate under your arms, the same way you would your body or your face.
And that's because it helps the product work better over time.
It gets rid of the gunk that can accumulate.
Yeah, brilliant.
Why wouldn't you exfoliate a dirty part of your body?
Right?
You do it to your face to keep your face clean.
We should start exfoliating all parts of parts of our body, the hinterlands.
Yeah, hey.
Yeah.
Okay.
So next question, gel, solid or spray, which deodorant should you buy if you don't want to be left with the dreaded white residue?
You see that on your dark outfits?
Plus it's the $18 natural deodorant with a $13,000 waiting list.
Is it worth the waiting?
Find out what's next.
From the dreaded white marks in your favorite black shirt to the yellow underarm stain on your white button downs, which deodorant is the best to avoid these fails?
That's our big question.
So we put the sticks, the gels, the sprays.
to test with the help of April Frenzino from the Good Housekeeping Institute's Beauty Lab.
First off, the stain test.
Jonah is here.
She says she's plagued by the dreaded white streaks on her shirt after applying her deodorant.
So show us what you tried to do to avoid spreading those streaks.
Yeah, so normally in the morning it starts sort of like what I call a turtle emerging from its shell.
I start by sticking both of my hands as wide as possible to my shirt.
It starts with a nice little over the head.
And then it's a very dramatic.
Well, this is a bit like a.
Like a this way kind of thing.
She's an Olympic, oh my goodness.
Kind of like with the Cirque du Soleil of sweaters.
Stunningly good, Jana.
Thank you so much.
Does it work?
Um, no.
Okay.
I still at the end of the day, halfway as I leave the house, I'll look down as I'm on the subway and I've found some.
They're somewhere.
Contamination.
Yeah.
Come on over.
You're not alone.
We set up a little experiment putting three popular application types to test.
The clear gel, the solid stick, and a spray.
April's back in good housekeeping.
Explain what we did.
Okay.
So we have black t-shirts, which are the worst offenders for these white marks., and we applied a spray, a solid, and a gel deodorant antiperspirant formula to each of these.
We let it sit for an hour to let it absorb and imitate what would happen in your real life.
And now we get to see who is the worst offender of these.
Are you ready?
I'm very ready.
Okay, let's start with spray on first.
Okay, let's do the spray.
So you'll see here spray.
A little bit of a mark.
Yeah.
Right, then gel.
Ooh.
It's more of a mark.
Yeah.
This is the part that really blowed my mind.
Look at solid.
Yeah.
I mean, this is remarkable.
So is this why spray on is making a comeback?
Yeah, so sprays are really becoming more popular now.
They go on more shear than the other formulas.
As you can see, the sprays, the solids and gels tend to leave a film under your arms that can transfer on your clothes.
So we're really seeing sprays increase in popularity.
One thing to keep in mind, even though they're safe for the environment at this point, you still want not spray them in a closed area.
So make sure you have ventilation and try not spray them close to your face so you're not inhaling them.
Right.
And just to, you said it quickly, but it doesn't destroy the ozone any more.
I was told never to use sprays again.
They've become smarter about this.
So you have an option here.
This is a nice sweater, by the way.
Thank you.
You could keep it nice and black if you could.
I can.
I can.
Would you go with the spray on?
I would.
I've done the solid, but after seeing how drastic that is, I would definitely try this spray on, for sure.
And how are you going to stay in shape if you don't have to do that acrobatic maneuver to get strong?
I know.
I don't know.
But now it will be easier.
Okay.
Thank you very much, Josh.
Of course.
Thank you.
Okay.
Now what about the dreaded yellow pit stain so many of you complain about?
Men have this problem big time as well.
It's always on our white shirts.
So where do they come from?
I don't understand how you get yellow.
Yeah.
From nothing yellow.
So it's actually so sweat itself is odorless and colorless on its own.
So you're not going to get the yellow mark just from switching.
But what happens when you apply an antiperspirant is that the active ingredient in it aluminumum interacts with the proteins in your sweat.
And that causes the yellow staining that we all dread.
It is a big issue.
Encyclopedic knowledge.
I appreciate it very much.
By the way, you can pick up the July issue of Good Housekeeping on newstands now.
It is absolutely fabulous.
Next, a new deodorant is making headlines because it costs $18.
And there was a $13,000 person waiting list to order it, including Renatha, our go-to Tash Journal.
She wanted to see what all the hype was about.
You got on the list, you waited $13,000 people, you finally got it.
Finally got it.
First impressions.
Okay, so the first thing I did was I took it off and I smelled it, okay?
Because you know, normally when I'm in the grocery store, I take it off even though I'm not supposed to, okay?
But I take it off in the grocery store and make sure it smells good because I usually like a powder refresh.
And this one gave me what I needed.
Yes.
What is it?
What does it claim to do?
Okay, so now this one is supposed to be antibacterial, antifungal, anti inflammatory, and it reduces odor causing bacteria with natural ingredients like coconut, green tea, and vitamin E, and a little bit of sage too.
Put some sage up underneath.
Yeah.
Right.
Now, you know what though, doctor Ross?
They use corn starch to help with the, you know what I mean?
And the, you know what I mean is the smell.
So I'm telling you, so the smell and sweat.iness.
Instead of the baking soda that I know a lot of the natural plants use, they use corn starch.
Corn starch, yes.
So when I got here, I put it on.
I'm in my dressing room doing jump and jacks.
Okay, I'm getting sweaty.
I'm getting worked up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on.
Yeah, you did.
Okay, back to my jump and jacks.
So, I mean, you can smell me if you want, but I mean, I know you love me, but you're not going to.
It's okay.
Oh, my gosh.
I'm refreshing.
You're not the.
As we know, a break the good house TV lab made a video show you how to remove those yellow underarm shirt stains that I know you all can't stand.
Take a look, I'll be right back.
Hi Dr. Oz, it's Carolyn Forte here at the Good Housekeeping Cleaning Lab and I'm going to help you get those nasty yellow sweat stains out of your white shirts.
Now here's a white shirt that we started with a stain under each arm.
That's the before and this is the after.
Looks pretty good.
What we did is we soaked it in vinegar first to help dissolve the salts and the perspiration for maybe 30 minutes to an hour or longer depending on how severe the stain is.
Then we soaked it in a solution of hot water, laundry detergent, and either all fabric bleach or chlorine bleach, whatever's safe for the fabric.
And the stains were gone.
Up next, hair removal horror stories that will make you say, ow.
Okay, are we ready?
Ready?
Here we go.
Ow, that hurts.
Oh, yeah, yes, I did.
My skin, my skin is off.
Are you kidding me?
I am so haunted by that moment.
Today, the hair removal horror stories that make your skin tingle.
So if you're looking for smoother skin on your legs and decide to go in for a laser treatment and then let's say this happens, you wouldn't be too happy.
You look at postage stamp.
Or what would you do if you went in for a facial wax and you ended up looking like this?
Joining me via Zoom is Jennifer who had a laser hair removal horror story that left her scarred for life.
And I'm going to warn everybody right now, this burn photo you're about to see is pretty graphic.
It's actually Jennifer's leg.
So Jennifer, here it's going up.
Everyone can see it now.
So take us back to that painful moment.
What happened?
After checking reviews online., I find a place, great reviews.
So I go in for a consultation.
Visible tattoos on my legs, everything seems okay.
No problems.
I go ahead and prepay for all my sessions.
I come back a couple days later, start with the first session.
And as she's she tells me that, you know, my tattoos may scab a little bit, they may fade.
But no red flags.
She's going over my legs with the laser treatment.
And I told her it's noticeable pain when you go over my tattoos.
And she makes a comment like, Beauty is pain, no big deal.
And as I walk out the door there, they're already raised, already starting to blister.
So that picture we just showed, those looked pretty horrific.
How much does that recovery hurt?
That was the worst pain I've ever had in my life.
We were washing them off in the evenings.
You could watch my skin fall off and go down the drain.
I would cry.
I'd beg them to stop.
I would get so sick that I would vomit.
That's the worst pain I've ever had in my life.
So what do you do now when you want to get your hair removed off your legs?
I shave.
You shave?
You shave carefully.
You're a smart woman.
Thank you very much.
Let's bring in someone who has seen it all, dermatologist Whitney Bow.
That was a really bad story.
Yes, yes, we have some horror stories to share with you.
So take a look at this one.
So this woman went to get her back waxed for the very first time.
And after she waxed, she developed this itchy rash all over the area that was waxed.
But not only was the rash itself ugly, uncomfortable, but even when those bumps resolved, even when the rash resolved, she was left with Sequelae.
She had brown spots all over her back for months after that incident.
Let's show everyone what's happening under your skin.
This is what happens when removal goes wrong.
Let's get ready to wax.
So we built you a hair wax demo for the first time ever.
I thought you'd be impressed by this.
And just to look at it carefully, right?
You've got hair, right?
That's attached to a follicle down here, that little root, right?
And the reason that it hurts when you wax is you're literally tearing the hair out and tearing this root off the follicle, off the rest of the skin, right?
That sounds like it should hurt and it really does.
And so if you want to violate that natural human instinct for your body to hold on to the hair, at least acknowledge that there might be some damage.
So let's say you put a little waxing strip on your hair.
And I gather you guys do this.
I don't personally do this anymore.
You saw the one time I tried, right?
You guys know that when that happens, you know.
what you do, right?
You brace yourself.
You've all been there, you start holding your breath.
They're like, oh gosh, here it comes, here it comes.
All right, go for it, wax.
Are you ready?
So then when you're ready to go, ready?
Here it goes, you rip, you rip the hair, get in your hands, and, ooh, ooh, ooh.
Now you've had a successful wax.
So you were successful in theory because the hair's out, the roots out, it's gone, right?
But what just happened?
What have we left behind here?
Right, so when you wax, it adheres to the hair, but it also sticks to that dead layer of skin cells on the surface.
Mine wasn't even dead.
I could feel mine.
Oh, it came off.
Oh, gosh.
So, yeah, so that's actually normal, you know, for this all to come off when you're waxing.
And, you know, it's a little tender, it's a little painful, but you can heal pretty quickly from that, right?
But things can go wrong when you wax.
So, number one, the wax itself can be so hot that it actually burns the epidermis.
It burns that living layer of tissue, and that hurts.
Yes.
Or if the conditions are not very sanitary, you can end up with an infection.
And that can really lead to Well, you have an open wound.
You all see that, right?
You see this wound here?
Yes.
So, if you were to put some cream on there, it makes you feel better, and it's not sterile, or if it closes this down inappropriately, you've got a wound down there.
After care is just as important as the wax itself.
Excellent point.
I'm starting to have a little sympathy pain pain having witnessed this myself, personally.
I feel bad for all of you who are putting yourself through this.
The question is, can you ever recover from a hair horror removal like this?
Well, up next, what to do when your hair removal goes really wrong.
Take a look.
Okay.
Yep.
What do you do for that?
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Stick around.
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We are back with hair removal horror stories that will make your skin tingle.
The big question in the aftermath of hair removal horror stories is what do you do next?
Dermatologist Whitney Bow is back along with Jen, who says she doesn't know what to do with her overwaxed brows.
So let me look for a second.
So you say your brows are over or they're too thin, you say.
They're too thin and actually the ends are gone now.
They're no longer growing past a certain point due to waxing.
Hm.
How many waxes?
Way too many waxes at the nail salon.
Not a good idea.
Whitney, you've covered these horror stories quite a bit.
You have a fear you might have given a number.
Here's the number you could have given us.
We've got Jen here.
So first of all, how long does it take for the hair to grow back?
Well, so in general it takes about 64 days in average, about two months, for a bronze hair to grow back.
But as Jen said, if you wax or pluck or twizzle or thread anything that removes it from the root over time or frequently, you can actually permanently damage the bulb.
You know, that's the stem cells, that's the part that grows the hair.
So over time, some of those hairs just may never grow back.
So in the meantime, we have some recommendations.
That's the point here.
Come on over, Jen.
So in the case of a horror story with me, as a dermatologist, what do you recommend that we do?
Because it's going to take 64 days, as you point out, and that's a long time.
So in the old days, we used to all wear eyebrow pencil.
But now there are these new products.
Let's take a look at this one.
These are eyebrow gels that are actually waterproof and they're smudge proof and they last for a couple of days.
So for some of my patients, these are game changers.
So have you heard of gel before?
I have.
I've never used it.
I haven't.
I penciled the men.
I don't do a great job, so I try.
You stay inside the lines when you pencil?
Is that a hard thing for women to do?
I hope you're being clown by this clown.
Come on over.
Come on over.
Have you seen Wendy can show you how to apply the gel.
Because the gel is it's completely different from using a pencil.
It's very different.
I'm actually going to have you hold the little spoolie, the little brush.
That's an essential step you want to finish with that.
So what you do is these gels, you want to take out the applicator.
And what you do first, and you're game for this, you're ready for me to apply a little bit of a brow here?
Let's go.
All right, so you want to hold it.
All right, so here's your applicator tip.
It's got the gel.
You actually want, if you want to face forward, what I'll do is I'm going to start in the middle of the brow.
And you want to use short strokes, guys, because you're sort of learning how to gain control here.
And then you can work on the tail of the brow.
So it's starting to clump a little bit.
That's one of the problems with the applicator tips that are a little bit on the thick side.
So then you go towards the center.
You want to sort of fill in the center.
You do want to coat the entire brow, because you want the color to be even throughout.
But what's really magic is when you bring in that spoolie or you bring in that little brush, because what that's going to do is it's going to really help to sort of even out and disperse that gel.
It is staining the hairs and sort of making the hairs look a little bigger, so when you do wash it sort of does wash off, but there are products that should be coming to the US shortly that stain both the hair and the skin, so stay tuned.
I think this technology is only going to get better.
Total difference, one hundred percent.
I like it.
I like it too.
I love it.
And you say 64 days.
I know.
Now I'm about ten years younger and I have eyebrows.
Thank you very much.
Next horror story is waxing and burning the skin off your upper lip like that photo we just showed you all.
Yes.
Just remind you, it's not a happy camper there.
So what should you do if you tear the skin off your apple?
So the first thing you want to do if you get a burn is you want to cool the burn.
And then after you're done cooling the burn, I love honey.
Honey is amazing when it comes to healing wounds.
But guys, we're not just talking about any honey.
So if you buy honey from the supermarket, it can actually have bacterial spores contaminating it.
So you want to look for what's called medical grade or medicinal honey.
It dramatically speeds the wound healing process.
The oldest medicine known to man.
They probably developed it for people waxing ten thousand years ago.
Definitely.
Everybody probably has.
Well, those ancient Egyptians were waxing.
I have no personal experience with this problem, but once in a while I hear bikini waxing goes wrong.
It certainly can.
It's a very painful area.
It can be very painful, very tender.
What I love for a burn in the bikini area is zinc.
So clean hands, wash your hands first and apply a thin layer to the bikini area and you'll be healing in no time.
Doctor Whitney Bo, encyclopedic as always.
Thank you very much.
We'll be back.
I love to get to talk with you on my show every single day.
But when the cameras stop rolling, the conversation is not over.
I still have a lot that I want to talk about.
So download the Dr. Rog's podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Today, two of my favorite things together.
Kale and a massage.
I love kale so much that people give me shirts with kale on the shirt.
See?
Oh, kale, yeah.
That's from a good friend.
You might know Jamika Peso gave me that.
Now I'm breaking down the science of why you should be massaging your kale.
I'm here with Stacy who says she eats kale several times a week.
I am so proud of you.
I am.
How do you like to prepare it?
I eat it chopped up in salads.
So do you want to fight something that's a little bit toughugh.
Very.
So I have an idea for you.
Have you ever massaged your kale?
I must say I've never massaged my kale.
My wife massages kale and I finally figured out why she does it.
Come over here.
I'll teach you a little bit about the TLC around kale.
Now, if you look at a leaf under a microscope, it looks like this.
You see these little things, these little circles?
Those are plant cells, basically.
They're like human cells and animal cells, right?
Unfortunately, they're sort of tough to digest.
You have to chew through them.
That's why you have trouble with kale sometimes.
So there's a theory that if you massage the kale, it helps break these leaves down, make them more tender.
These nutrients, when they break apart, not only can you chew them more easily, but they release their nutrients.
Very good.
That's a pretty cool idea.
Very good.
The question is, does it really work?
So we're going to put it to the test test.
So you get the massage, you can don't the hands, right?
And I'll talk.
So the massage is pretty easy.
Here's how you do it.
You have the pecale here.
You add half a lemon.
Okay.
Right?
That's the juice of it.
Right?
And then you add a little olive oil.
There.
Then start massaging.
Oh, right.
Just.
Is that for filling to you as you do that?
Yes.
It's nice.
I'll squeeze a little extra lemonade.
There.
Now, you have to do it for about a minute and a half.
Okay.
It's not something you can rush through, but everyone knows that about massages.
So just while you're massaging, I'm gonna see if this works for you.
So I have my sterile gloves on.
I'll rup this for a second.
Okay.
That's the normal, unmassaged, chewy.
Chewy.
A little bit bitter sometter sometimes and actually might not be as good for you because it's not been massaged.
All that tender loving care allows nutrients to come out.
Are you ready?
I'm ready.
Okay.
That's the massage first.
It really is better.
Isn't it?
It really is.
Smoother.
Rolls around your mouth a little more readily.
It's like it was actually done for you by someone who really loves you.
That's right.
Which is what you've done.
Keep going.
You got to get it done.
You can't quit in the middle of a massage.
I've been too early.
Sorry.
Together the change is happening, my friends.
Our journey is just beginning.
Here, I'll help you.
I'll relieve you.
I'll help you a little bit.
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