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Aug. 11, 2025 - Dr. Oz Podcast
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Jarred Pasta Sauce Taste Test + Best Natural Deodorants! | Dr. Oz | S10 | Ep 171 | Full Episode
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Things go wrong when you wax.
Hair removal.
The ends are gone now.
They're no longer growing due to waxing.
Horror stories.
She got especially concerned when the bleeding wouldn't stop.
Plus, jarred spaghetti sauce.
So many to choose from.
You can get sucked in by the label.
It's always a danger.
What you should know before pasta night.
A lot of Americans realize that these jarred sauces are not what they were promised.
Coming up next.
Y'all ready for season 10?
Yeah!
*music*
I love you Becca.
I love you Becca.
My family, we make our own tomato sauce.
It's actually a tradition.
Here you see me at a tomato festival making a big old pot.
It's fun, brings people together.
But the majority of you are buying the jarred stuff, which has for years been off limits, shunned by nutritionists and foodies alike.
It's just mass-produced sugar and salt bombs, turning healthy marinara into a stale-tasting processed food.
But we are challenging all the rules and taking a second look at the pantry staple, including jarred pasta sauce.
Food journalist and author of Dorito Effect, Mark Shatzker is here to help us out.
Like I said, Mark has been simmering, simmering over the question, has the story of jarred sauces changed?
So please take us through the history of marinara.
Well, the classic American marinara sauce doesn't actually get its start in America.
It goes back to Naples and Sicily, where it was the sauce eaten by Italian sailors, mariners, marinara.
Get it?
A mariner.
So.
How do you even learn this stuff, Shatzker?
It's unbelievable.
The story is that their wives would see the fishing boats coming in on the horizon and start to make this sauce.
That's a romantic tale, might be true, but what we know to be true is that like all Italian classic sauces, it is made from fresh, high-quality ingredients.
It is simple and uncomplicated and wonderful.
Hundreds of years is in Italy, and then we have the big immigration in Canada.
Move forward a couple hundred years, lots of Americans.
Four million Americans move right here.
Four million Italians move to America.
85% of them come from the South.
They brought their beloved sauce.
They started cooking it here.
And they found on land of opportunity, there's lots of other ingredients.
They started adding things.
Now, the most famous example is meatballs.
Spaghetti meatballs is an American classic.
Spaghetti meatballs is not an Italian classic.
You go to Italy and ask for it.
I've done this.
And they look at you like, a little funny.
Tell me a spaghetti meatball.
What's the matter with you?
And what are you talking about?
So things really start to get interesting, though, in the 1980s, because that is when the classic Italian sauce moves from the stovetop to the jar.
This is when we really started finding it in supermarkets.
Now, some of them came from Italian-American families who marketed their own product.
Some of it came from food companies.
But the big changes that were going to come to jarred sauces came from Madison Avenue.
Madison Avenue?
Let's get into this.
By the way, I thought the 80s were all about Rubik Cubes.
I don't know how to do it.
Yeah, Rubik's Cubes, and also jarred sauces.
Add that to your 1980s.
A lot of things happened in the 80s to our food.
I think that's one of the things we're realizing.
It's been a generation now, but we're all waking up to this reality.
So from the 80s to the day, jarred sauces changed dramatically.
And that's the big message today.
What is good?
What is bad?
So when it comes to actually, what changed mostly, besides the fact that they now have super chunky versions?
Oh, there's every different kind you can imagine.
There's ones with meat, there's ones with cheese, there's a garden variety.
I mean, it gets confusing.
You just don't really know what to make of it.
And I see the high-end ones, and I'm never really sure.
Are these high-end ones that have the restaurant label on them really importantly different?
I mean, what have I made that Papa Azas Bolognese?
Or is it fundamentally something that they're doing to make that a better pasta sauce?
Great question.
Some of this is just empty marketing.
You can get sucked in by the label.
It's always a danger.
But there's been a backlash.
A lot of Americans realize that these jarred sauces are not what they were promised.
They're not like Nana's sauce.
So a lot of companies have been realizing, hey, we got to up our game.
And they really are making an effort to use better ingredients.
Now, all these things cost more money.
So the better quality sauce is going to cost more, but it's better quality.
And listen, I think that's good news.
So you wanted to know Exactly what was going on if spending more on jarred sauces made a difference.
So we look at the popular sauces out there and we divided them between the ones that cost more than $6 and the ones that cost less than $6.
We just picked that number, but it's reflective of the more expensive, less expensive.
So when it came to the quality of the ingredients, just the absolute stuff that they were using, which one fared better?
More than $6.
More than $6.
Think about that.
Not surprising, right?
But the question is, what are they doing?
Why is it that the more expensive ingredients matter?
Why should it matter to us?
This is one of the biggest surprise I've had in all the research we've done.
We finally found an ingredient list that had nothing wrong with it.
We found one of these higher-end jarred sauces.
It looked like a recipe.
Wake us up to this.
What kind of ingredient swaps do the low-cost jarred varieties of tomato sauce make that might not be in our best interest?
Okay, so you'd think you're buying an Italian tomato sauce.
It's going to have olive oil in it, right?
It's going to have, it's going to have tomatoes.
I mean, it's a tomato sauce.
Wrong.
You find vegetable oil, soybean oil, canola oil, and you also find tomato puree.
Now, what's tomato puree?
It's tomato paste mixed with water.
So what they do, it saves them money, right?
If you're going to ship tomatoes, get the water out of it.
It just saves you a lot of transport costs.
They superheat the tomatoes, and you end up getting this metallic off-flavor that a lot of us have tasted in that jarred sauce.
And you lose the tomato flavor.
And the real tomatoes gives you what, besides taste?
Oh, the real tomatoes.
Listen, anyone who's ever made a tomato sauce knows that there's this magic point.
It starts out, it's just olive oil.
You put the tomatoes in, it's just hot tomatoes.
You're looking at it and going like, this is hot tomatoes.
And then something happens where it just sort of melts and it starts to condense.
The acids condense.
The sugars condense.
It gets a bit more gelatinous and it becomes a tomato sauce.
It has flavor.
There is no substitute for that.
And tomato paste is no substitute for real tomatoes.
You can tell he loves tomato sauce.
When it came to the issue of sugar, did it matter with the price?
Well, the better quality pasta is also, sauce is also better for you.
Explain what you looked at when you examine the sugar.
Yeah, that's exactly.
You know, we talked about that problem you get with this high-temperature tomato processing.
You lose the tomato flavor.
You get these off-flavors.
Well, the companies know that too, so they have to come up with a solution.
And their cheap solution is just to add sugar back in, add some salt.
It doesn't really make up for it, but it does make it palatable.
Now, I should say, if you look hard enough, you can find lower-cost tomato sauce with less sugar, but I don't think the flavor is going to be there.
All right, then we also can buy a lower-cost sauce.
So we look at some of the labels for those across the board, and we found the same thing over and over and over again.
You pay a little penalty when you try to skimp, and it's not a big price difference, as you noticed.
When it comes to fat quality, I wanted to know if price mattered as well.
Guess what?
When it's a better quality pasta sauce, spaghetti sauce, you have a better quality fat in there as well.
You actually, interestingly, found that the higher price pasta sauces had a little more fat in them overall.
Yes, and this is confusing for some people because we've been taught to be afraid of fat, but as we both know, the fat story is more complicated.
There are higher quality fats.
Fat's also a more expensive ingredient.
But what we found is in the higher end sauces, there's more olive oil.
The lower end sauces, it's more vegetable oil.
But the other thing about olive oil is it has flavor.
It's not this neutral oil.
It has flavor.
It helps make the sauce have that classic Italian flavor, which is what it's supposed to have.
Since you brought up flavor, the ultimate test is the flavor.
When it comes to pasta sauce, what's the point?
Who cares about nutrients that doesn't taste good?
So we wanted to ask a real-life Italian grandma to see if it were acceptable.
Nona Caramella is here.
Now, Nona, I'm going to be alpha about this.
I know, I know, no Nona is going to accept a jarred spaghetti sauce.
I understand that.
But if you had to pick one of these, and you've been tasting them here, if you had to pick one of these, which one would you think was most acceptable to you?
Hmm.
There are five choices.
I know, and it really wasn't a hard choice, but the one I would have chosen, only if I had to, is this one.
Four was okay.
It was livable.
And the answer, you all see this?
It was an above $6 pasta sauce.
What makes a tomato sauce good for you?
Well, I taste it.
You need San Martano tomatoes from Italy.
Don't be cheap.
You need good olive oil.
Good olive oil.
You need garlic.
The whole house has to smell like garlic for days.
And it's got to cook.
It's not bad.
I like it.
I like this.
Oh, man.
When you come to my house, I'll make you that.
Done.
A toast to you.
Toast to yours.
There is a jarred spaghetti sauce after all, everybody.
We're going to be putting Mark's Jarred Sauce Buyer's Guide online.
Check it out with some criticism from Dona, of course.
When we come back Mark shows his four-step solution to any jarred sauce to make it taste even better, to make it taste even more homemade.
Stick around.
*Cheering*
We're breaking the rules and Mark Saskar is our rebel with a cause.
He has four steps to turn any jarred tomato sauce into an Oz approved meal.
He says there's no shame in the jarred sauce game as long as you do it right.
Step one is to saute vegetables to increase nutrient density.
Makes sense.
Makes sense.
And you also increase flavor.
So there's no law that says you can't do anything to this, that it's somehow perfect and complete.
Have a bit of fun with it.
All you do, you heat up some olive oil, you chop up some garlic, you chop up some onion.
It is so simple.
You put it, you can hear that sizzle.
Oh, yes.
That's what you want to hear.
Smell that incredible cooked garlic.
You put in some onion, saute it.
What you want, you don't want the garlic to burn.
You want the onions to become transparent.
Cook it a little longer than I am right here, and then it gets really easy.
So it's like making a regular sauce.
Make it translucent.
It's good to go.
And then you can.
Oh, you're kidding me.
It's that simple.
No, no.
And just let exactly.
You can just tell me, mate.
You sort of did make it yourself.
That's right, exactly.
Well, you did make it yourself.
Exactly.
Technically.
And listen, you don't have to be limited to just garlic and onion.
See what's in the vegetable drawer.
You can use celery, you can use carrots, you can use peppers.
My only advice is don't clear out the vegetable drawer.
We're not making vegetable soup.
We're making pasta sauce.
All right.
Second big step is add some protein.
You like to add your own.
Yeah, I don't love the jar of sauces that comes with meat.
You don't exactly know what meat's going in there.
It's mushy sometimes.
It's mushy, a lot of sodium.
One of the best, especially if you're trying to cut back on meat, but you love the flavor of meat, is panchetta.
This is like Italian bacon, but it's not smoked.
Just saute that, just like you did this stuff.
Don't put it in raw.
Saute it, add your sauce.
It just gives this meaty, delicious presence.
But if you want something a little, you know, to stick to your ribs, ground beef, ground veal, do the same thing.
You get some sear on them, get some flavor going, and just add the sauce and turn the heat.
See, I like ground turkey a little leaner.
I still think it's filling.
It adds a little something extra to the pasta sauce.
Listen, you got a lot of choices here.
You can get your protein any way you want.
Next step, dairy.
This is the part where it's just so easy.
I don't know why we were already doing this.
Well, in a way, we were already doing this because everyone knows how amazing Parmesan Cheese Oz is on a pasta.
But the world of dairy, there is so much going on.
Ricotta, well, a lot of us know ricotta because we put in lasagna.
You can put it in a sauce like this.
It adds more of a milky flavor, not a sharp flavor.
You can put mascarpone in.
You can just put in some cream.
You don't need that much.
It lightens the sauce.
It just makes it sweet and delicious.
Makes a huge difference.
Have fun with it.
Next step, easiest of all.
Olive oil, basil.
You know, this is, if we think about cooking pasta sauces a long time, that's important.
But sometimes what you do at the very end adds the real wow factor.
So these are what we call top notes.
You dress the pasta with olive oil at the end.
You put in some fresh chopped basil.
It just brings it to life.
People will think you are a star chef.
It is delicious.
Makes it taste fresh to me.
Exactly, fresh.
All right, the most important thing you argue is remember the pasta sauce has a certain appropriate ratio with the spaghetti.
Yes.
This is the right ratio.
Well, this is what I do.
In the Oz household, we do this.
This is not what you want.
This pasta is over sauce.
One of the biggest differences when you go to Italy is how little sauce on the pasta.
You can really see the pasta.
Now, I have a theory as to why this is happening.
We are all afraid of salt.
So we all cook our spaghetti in unsalted water and it tastes super, super bland.
And the only source of flavor and salt is the sauce.
So people like, they dump on a bucket.
It's not how it's supposed to be.
So this is my advice, people.
Salt your pasta water.
All that salt does not go into your pasta.
So don't be afraid that you're putting in two or three tablespoons.
It's not all, most of it's staying in the water, but the pasta sucks some of it in, and then the pasta has flavor.
So it's very important how you then sauce it.
And this is what I want to show you.
I'm going to show you how we do this.
You take a little bit of, you know, it comes out, you drain it, take a little bit of salt, a little more salt, a little more pepper.
First, some olive oil.
Before the pasta sauce.
Before the pasta sauce.
And you dress it with olive oil.
Really simple.
Just use tongs.
You don't have to be delicate about it.
And then, I just want you to put two spoons of that on.
One, two.
That's all.
Okay, so what we're going for is a coating.
It's like what you do with salad.
You're dressing the pasta.
You're not.
Look at this.
That's actually pretty.
exactly.
And then the pasta gets this beautiful, you see the sauces all over it.
It's like the noodles have become colored.
So toss it around like this.
And then at the very end, you just add another little bit of sauce.
With a little freshness.
Let me ask you a question: is there ever a time to just use straight out of the jar to make espasto sauce?
I would say if you're making pizza or you're making lasagna, those can be very labor intensive.
There's no shame in just using the jarred sauce.
But you gotta be careful with lasagna.
Because if you have a very thick sauce, those lasagna noodles soak up the water.
So your lasagna comes out and it's like a raisin.
It's dry.
It's like burnt to the edge.
Like what happened?
If it's a really watery sauce, you're pouring the water off.
So a little trial and error.
You gotta make sure you get a sauce that isn't too thick, isn't too runny.
I'm trying to shast your technique.
Very, very valuable advice.
As always, I appreciate it.
We'll be right back.
I'm eating.
I'll meet you too.
Now, up next, an investigation into deodorant you won't want to miss.
Should you be switching to the all-natural varieties?
And do they even work?
We partner with Good Housekeeping and put them to the test.
That's coming up.
Whether you're looking to make the switch to a natural deodorant or you've been using your same brand of antiperspirant for years, we all want to know: is it doing the job it should be?
And is it safe?
To find out, we partnered with Good Housekeeping to create a deodorant test lab right here in our studio.
And we are investigating the natural, the stick, and the stray deodorants to see which are the best to conquer your three most pitiful problems.
Pardon the pun.
Like body odor.
You like my jokes?
Yeah.
Yeah, all right.
It's still pitiful, the jokes, aren't they?
And then there's sweat.
You're all worried about sweat.
She knows.
We'll find out a little more about you in a second.
And finally, those dreaded white marks that always end up on your favorite black shirt.
Aren't they terrible?
Awful.
Oh, let me see yours.
Okay, right now.
You're okay right now, but time will tell.
All right, join me now from Good Housekeeping Institute's Health and Beauty Lab is Beauty Director April Franzino.
So it's interesting.
When you're looking for the best deodorants of good housekeeping, you must have a strategy.
You guys are so organized.
We do.
We definitely do.
So we first start by looking at innovations in the market.
So there are all sorts of different forms of deodorants and antiperspirants coming out now.
There are wipes, there are sprays, there are even lotions and creams and serum formulas inspired by skincare.
So we want to know whether those really work because it's exciting to see new technologies, but you're not going to want to try something that's not going to work for you.
So we test every set variant on 25 to 30 women in their real life over two weeks.
They give us their evaluation on everything from odor protection to sweat protection, irritation on their skin, whether they transfer onto their clothes.
So we really look at every attribute.
Right, so you'll answer all of our big questions today.
Coming up, we're going to put some of these ideas to the test with the most popular natural deodorants, sick spray, antiperspirants, everything, all that's getting tested today.
Welcome to come on next to me.
You're going to help me out here.
So here's the deal.
The first issue is the BO test.
Yes.
The body odor test.
Now, yeah, I don't know if you've thought this through, but I suspect you have.
When you're looking for a good deodorant, what does it have to do?
Well, it has to keep me fresh all day.
It has to last all day.
You know, you don't want to be that person who, you know, other people inch away from when you're in close quarters, though.
Yes.
Yeah.
We've all lived through that.
I've built your little model here.
These are two different armpits.
You can see the levels of the skin in front.
Pink skin, it's all you see when you look at it with your eyes.
But microscopically, if you blow it up, there are all these little holes.
And in these holes, you've got stuff coming out.
It's sweat.
It's supposed to be there.
It doesn't naturally smell.
In fact, it's sterile when it comes out.
But things happen.
So April, walk us through the difference between a deodorant and an antiperspirant just to get us all on the same page.
So there is a big difference.
So a deodorant in and of itself contains ingredients like fragrance and essential oils that help mask the scent that's coming out.
So it doesn't change the actual sweat.
Right.
You're only getting fragrance, basically like a perfume for your underarms from a deodorant alone.
I like that concept, the fragrance, the perfume.
But it does cover it up, and you can't tell it's there.
That's true.
But you'll be wet still.
You'll still have, you'll still be perspiring.
So for antiperspirant, on the other hand, what we're going to show here is this tape is basically signifies antiperspirant for us.
And what that does is it actually plugs your sweat duct.
So you won't get the wetness coming through because it gets plugged by the antiperspirant, as you see here.
That look is appealing.
Yeah, it does not.
But it's appealing when you don't have wet underarms.
That's true.
So that's sort of the idea.
So, which is better at tackling the actual odor, the body odor?
So, interestingly enough, antiperspirant, which you usually see them in combinations.
So, antiperspirant deodorant combinations, they're usually more effective at tackling body odor because they tackle it in a two-pronged approach.
So, they actually kill the bacteria that causes the odor.
They neutralize that in addition to stopping the sweat from coming out of the pores, like we're seeing here.
So, you'll get a longer-lasting odor protection from an antiperspirant deodorant combo.
But some folks don't like the antiperspirants.
And there are all these natural deodorants that have come out because they're worried about aluminum.
Have you ever heard these rumors at all?
Absolutely.
Can I just say one thing now?
I've studied this.
We've had this battle in my household.
There have been no studies to date that have confirmed any substantial adverse effects of aluminum that can contribute to problems.
The one that was most feared was breast cancer.
Yes, I get it.
It's not natural.
I personally don't like to use antiperspirants.
I'd rather just sweat it out.
I figured it was, I just don't like the idea of it being clugged in there, but I don't think it's dangerous to do that.
But these natural products, what do they use?
What works for them?
So, they actually contain a mix of ingredients, usually natural oils like coconut, which you see here, baking soda, essential oils, and they all sort of work together to stop the odor.
They form a little bit of a coating under your arms, and that helps.
But they're not all created equal, so we're going to do a little sniff test here.
So, you made a concoction of natural odor, you put it under real people's armpits, theoretically.
So, smell that, tell me what you smell.
Look at our eyes, look at our eyes.
It's okay.
It smells very tropical, like coconut-based.
I think pina colada.
You put rum in this, wouldn't you?
Ah, yes.
This is very, that's good.
Now, smell this.
Oh!
Whoa!
I can even smell this.
Oh!
No.
Now, what?
That smells like armpits mixed with gym socks mixed with disappointment.
This is like oh, cat pee.
Cat pee.
All right.
Wow.
So obviously, this is really bad.
And this is actually quite nice.
So what's the difference between the two?
So there's really no difference at all.
The difference is in people's body chemistry and the ingredients sometimes in the products.
So it's a lot of trial and error with natural deodorants.
You should use it for a couple weeks, see if you're getting the odor protection that you're looking for.
And if not, you might have to switch to something else.
Let me be clear.
You could have the exact same product making you smell wonderful, but your smells smell terrible.
Yes, and that's because your bacteria is just different in every single person.
Here, there's a little gift from the show to you.
Yeah.
Next up, this sweat test.
Linda, who we met earlier, Uber athlete.
She's been working up a sweat in the treadmill.
Now outside of exercise, when do you feel like you need an antiperspirant?
Probably like just the daily stress of life, you know, running around doing errands, grocery shopping to kids, multitasking, like everything.
I sweat a lot.
All right, so Linda did a little experiment for us.
Before the workout, she had two products applied, one under one armpit, just to, you know, you had deodorant under one, an antiperspirant under the other, and you put paper towels to see if it would work.
I did.
If there's a real difference.
Because some people think they sweat, they don't always sweat that much, other people more than they think.
Are you ready to see how the products all stood up, guys?
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see the antiperspirant towel first.
The antiperspirant, not the natural one.
No, the antiperspirant, the one that will help to keep you.
Oh, here, you hold this.
Yep.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Sorry.
That's actually, it's a cocktail napkin.
It's early in the day for that, but it's nice.
It is dry.
It's a little wetter, but not a huge difference.
It's not tragically different.
No, I don't feel that much different on either side.
I feel sweaty, but not like massively sweating on one side or the other.
So how does this work?
The antiperspirant, you showed us how it works better to control sweat.
Yeah, so over a full day and through a work, like a long workout, it should work better to control your sweat because it's actually plugging up your sweat glands and preventing the moisture from coming out.
But it is important to use it correctly.
So one trick that we always tell people to do is to apply it at night, which is Something that people do not usually do.
And that's because it absorbs overnight.
And then in the morning, you'll get the protection for the full day.
And it also will prevent any transfer on your clothes and staining that.
You know, my wife tells me that.
I thought it was the dumbest advice ever.
She was right.
She was right.
Oh, my goodness.
Did you know that?
No.
Yeah, that's true.
And you have another one other hack I thought.
Yes.
So another interesting thing to keep in mind when you're using deodorants in general is to actually exfoliate under your arms the same way as you would your body or your face.
And that's because it helps the product work better over time.
It gets rid of the gunk that can build up.
Yes, brilliant.
Why wouldn't you exfoliate a dirty part of your body?
You do it to your face, keep your face clean.
We should start exfoliating all parts of our bodies, the hinterlands.
Yeah, hey?
All right.
So next question: gel, solid, or spray.
Which deodorant should you buy if you don't want to be left with the dreaded white residue?
You see that on your dark outfits?
Plus, it's the $18 natural deodorant with a 13,000 person wait list.
Is it worth the wait?
Find out what's next.
From the dreaded white marks in your favorite black shirt to the yellow underarm stain on your white button downs.
Which deodorant is the best to avoid these fails?
That's our big question.
So you put the sticks, the gels, the sprays to the test with the help of April Franzino from the Good Housekeeping Institute's beauty lab.
First off, the stain test.
John is here.
She says she's plagued by the dreaded white streaks at her shirt after applying her deodorant.
So show us what you tried to do to avoid spreading those streaks.
Yeah, so normally in the morning it starts sort of like what I call a turtle emerging from its shell.
I start by sticking both of my hands as wide as possible to my shirt.
It starts with a nice little over the head and then it's a very dramatic kind of like a this way kind of thing.
She's an Olympian.
Oh my goodness.
Kind of like with the cirque de sole of sweaters.
Stunningly good, Johnna.
Thank you so much.
Does it work?
No.
Okay.
I still, at the end of the day, halfway as I leave the house, I'll look down as I'm on the subway and I've found some.
There's somewhere.
Contamination.
Come on over.
You're not alone.
We set up a little experiment putting three popular application types to the test.
The clear gel, the solid stick, and a spray.
April's back in Good Housekeeping.
Explain what we did.
All right, so we have black t-shirts, which are the worst offenders for these white marks.
And we applied a spray, a solid, and a gel deodorant, antiperspirant formula to each of these.
We let it sit for an hour to let it absorb and mimic what would happen in your real life.
And now we get to see which is the worst offender of the.
Are you ready?
I'm very ready.
All right, let's start with spray-on first.
All right, let's do the spray.
So you'll see here, spray.
A little bit of a mark.
Yeah.
Right?
Then gel.
Ooh.
It's more of a mark.
Yeah.
This is the part that really blew my mind.
Look at solid.
Yeah.
I mean, this is remarkable.
So is this why spray-ons are making a comeback?
Yeah, so sprays are really becoming more popular now.
They go on more sheer than the other formulas.
As you can see, the sprays, the solids and gels tend to leave a film under your arms that can transfer onto your clothes.
So we're really seeing sprays increase in popularity.
One thing to keep in mind, even though they're safe for the environment at this point, you still want to not spray them in an enclosed area.
So make sure you have ventilation and try not to spray them close to your face so you're not inhaling them.
And just to use, you said it quickly, but it doesn't destroy the ozone anymore.
I was told never to use sprays again.
They've gotten smarter about this.
So you have an option here.
This is a nice sweater, by the way.
Thank you.
You could keep it nice and black if you want.
Would you go with the spray on?
I would.
I've done the solid, but after seeing how drastic that is, I would definitely try this spray on for sure.
And how are you going to stay in shape if you don't have to do that acrobatic maneuver to get your sweater on?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But now it'll be easier.
All right, thank you very much, John.
All right, now what about the dreaded yellow pit stain?
So many of you complain about.
Men have this problem big time as well.
It's always on our white shirts.
So where do they come from?
I don't understand how you get yellow from nothing yellow.
So it's actually sweat itself is odorless and colorless on its own.
So you're not going to get the yellow mark just from sweating.
But what happens when you apply an antiperspirant is that the active ingredient in it, aluminum, interacts with the proteins in your sweat.
And that causes the yellow staining that we all dread.
It is a big issue.
Encyclopedic knowledge.
I appreciate it very much.
By the way, you can pick up the July issue of Good Housekeeping on New Stands Now.
It is absolutely fabulous.
Next, a new deodorant is making headlines because it costs $18 and there was a 13,000 person wait list to order it, including, including Renatha, our go-to task gerritor.
She wanted to see what all the hype was about.
She got in the list.
You ate 13,000 people.
You finally got it.
Finally got it.
First impressions.
Okay, so the first thing I did was I took it off and I smelled it, okay?
Because you know, normally when I'm in the grocery store, I take it off, even though I'm not supposed to, okay?
But I take it off in the grocery store and make sure it smells good because I usually like a powder refresh.
And this one gave me what I needed.
Yes.
All right, what does it claim to do?
Okay, so now this one is supposed to be antibacterial, antifungal, anti-inflammatory, and it reduces odor-causing bacteria with natural ingredients like coconut, green tea, and vitamin E, and a little bit of sage, too.
Put some sage up on the video.
Okay, yeah.
Right.
Now, you know what, though, Dr. Ross?
They use cornstarch to help with the, you know, what I mean.
And the, you know, what I mean is the smell.
So I'm telling you, smell and sweatiness.
Instead of the baking soda that I know a lot of the natural products use, they use cornstarch.
Cornstarch, yes.
So when I got here, I put it on.
I'm in my dressing room doing jumping jacks.
Okay, I'm getting sweaty.
I'm getting worked up.
I don't know what you did.
Oh, you did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, come on.
You're showing off.
Okay, back on my jumping jack.
So, I mean, you can smell me if you want, but I mean, I know you love me, but you're not going to.
It's okay.
Oh, my God!
I got to refresh yourself.
We're not done.
As you go to break, the Good Housekeeping Lab made a video showing you how to remove those yellow underarm shirt stains that I know you all can't stand.
Take a look.
I'll be right back.
Hi, Dr. Ross.
It's Carolyn Forte here at the Good Housekeeping Cleaning Lab, and I'm going to help you get those nasty yellow sweat stains out of your white shirts.
Now, here's a white shirt that we started with a stain under each arm.
That's the before, and this is the after.
Looks pretty good.
What we did is we soaked it in vinegar first to help dissolve the salts and the perspiration for maybe 30 minutes to an hour or longer, depending on how severe the stain is.
Then we soaked it in a solution of hot water, laundry detergent, and either all fabric bleach or chlorine bleach, whatever's safe for the fabric.
And the stains were gone.
Up next, hair removal horror stories that will make you say, ow.
Okay, are we ready?
Ready?
Here we go.
Ah!
Ow, that hurts.
That hurts.
Oh, go, you see this?
My skin, my skin is off.
Are you kidding me?
I am so haunted by that moment.
Today, the hair removal horror stories can make your skin tingle.
So if you're looking for smoother skin on your legs and decided to go in for a laser treatment and then, let's say, this happens, you wouldn't be too happy.
You look at postage stamp.
Or what would you do if you went in for a facial wax and you ended up looking like this?
Joining me via Zoom is Jennifer, who had a laser hair removal horror story that left her scarred for life.
And I'm going to warn everybody right now, this burn photo you're about to see, it's pretty graphic.
It's actually Jennifer's leg.
So Jennifer, here it's going up.
Everyone can see it now.
So take us back to that painful moment.
What happened?
After checking reviews online, I find a place, great reviews.
So I go in for a consultation, visible tattoos on my legs.
Everything seems okay.
No problems.
I go ahead and prepay for all my sessions.
I come back a couple days later, start with the first session.
And as she's, she tells me that, you know, my tattoos may scab a little bit.
They may fade.
But no red flags.
She's going over my legs with the laser treatment.
And I told her, it's noticeable pain when you go over my tattoos.
She makes a comment like, beauty is pain, no big deal.
And as I'm walking out the door, they're already raised, already starting to blister.
So that picture we just showed, those look pretty horrific.
How much did that recovery hurt?
That was the worst pain I've ever had in my life.
We were washing them off in the evenings.
You could watch my skin fall off and go down the drain.
I would cry.
I'd beg them to stop.
I would get so sick that I would vomit.
That's the worst pain I've ever had in my life.
So what do you do now when you want to get your hair removed off your legs?
I shave.
You shave.
Very carefully.
Smart woman.
Thank you very much.
They could bring in someone who has seen it all, dermatologist Whitney Bo.
That was a really bad story.
It sure was.
You've collected a bunch.
You've got a busy practice.
Yes, yes.
We have some horror stories to share with you.
So take a look at this one.
So this woman went to get her back waxed for the very first time.
And after she waxed, she developed this itchy rash all over the area that was waxed.
But not only was the rash itself unsightly, uncomfortable, but even when those bumps resolved, even when the rash resolves, she was left with sequelae.
She had brown spots all over her back for months after that incident.
Let's show everyone what's happening under your skin.
This is what happens when removal goes wrong.
Let's get ready to wax.
So we built you a hair wax demo for the first time ever.
I thought you'd be impressed by this.
And just to look at it carefully, right?
You've got hair, right?
It's attached to a follicle down here, that little root, right?
And the reason that it hurts when you wax is you're literally ripping the hair out and tearing this root off the follicle, off the rest of the skin, right?
That sounds like it should hurt it.
It really does.
And so if you want to violate that natural human instinct for your body to hold on to hair, at least acknowledge that there might be some damages.
So let's say you put a little waxing strip on your hair, and I gather you guys do this.
I don't personally do this anymore.
You saw the one time I tried, right?
You guys know that when that happens, you know what you do, right?
You brace yourself.
You've all been there, you start holding your breath.
You're like, oh gosh, here it comes.
Here it comes.
All right, go for it.
Wax.
Are you ready?
So then when you're ready to go, you ready?
Here you go.
You rip, you rip the hair, get in your hands, and ooh, ooh, ooh.
Now you've all got it.
That's successful wax.
You were successful in theory because the hair is out, the root's out, it's gone, right?
But what just happened?
What have we left behind here?
Right, so when you wax, it adheres to the hair, but it also sticks to that dead layer of skin cells on the surface.
Mine wasn't even dead.
I could feel mine when it came off.
Oh, gosh.
So yeah, so that's actually normal, you know, for this all to come off when you're waxing.
And, you know, it's a little tender, it's a little painful, but you can heal pretty quickly from that, right?
But things can go wrong when you wax.
So number one, the wax itself can be so hot that it actually burns the epidermis.
It burns that living layer of tissue, and that hurts.
Or if the conditions are not very sanitary, you can end up with an infection.
And that can really lead to a lot of things.
Well, you have an open wound.
You all see that, right?
You see this wound here?
Yep.
So if you were to put some cream on there, it makes it feel better and it's not sterile.
Or if it closes this down inappropriately, you've got a wound down there.
Aftercare is just as important as the wax itself.
Excellent point.
I'm starting to have a little sympathy pain.
Having witnessed this myself, personally, I feel badly for all of you who are putting yourself through this.
The question is, can you ever recover from a hair horror removal like this?
Well, up next, what to do when your hair removal goes really wrong?
Take a look.
Yep.
What do you do for that?
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Stick around.
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We are back with hair removal horror stories that will make your skin tingle.
The big question in the aftermath of hair removal horror stories is, what do you do next?
Dermatologist Whitney Bo is back along with Jen, who says she doesn't know what to do about her overwaxed brows.
So let me look for a second.
So you say your brows are over, they're too thin, you say?
They're too thin and actually the ends are gone now.
They're no longer growing past a certain point due to waxing.
Too many waxes.
Way too many waxes at the nail salon.
Not a good idea.
Whitney, you've covered these horror stories quite a bit.
You have a fair number you could have given us.
We've got Jen here.
So first of all, how long does it take for the hair to grow back?
Well, so in general, it takes about 64 days on average, about two months, for an eyebrow hair to grow back.
But as Jen said, if you wax or pluck or tweeze or thread anything that removes it from the root over time or frequently, you can actually permanently damage the bulb.
You know, that's the stem cells.
That's the part that grows the hair.
So over time, some of those hairs just may never grow back.
So in the meantime, we have some recommendations.
That's the point here.
Come on over, Jen.
So in the case of a horror story, Whitney, as a dermatologist, what do you recommend that we do?
Because it's going to take 64 days, as you point out.
That's a long time.
So in the old days, we used to all wear eyebrow pencil.
But now there are these new products.
Let's take a look at this one.
These are eyebrow gels that are actually waterproof and they're smudge-proof and they last for a couple days.
So for some of my patients, these are game changers.
So have you ever heard of gel before?
I have.
I've never used it.
I haven't.
I penciled them in.
I don't do a great job, so I try.
You stay inside the lines when you pencil.
Is that a hard thing for women to do?
I look like a clown by the time I'm done.
Come on over.
Have this seat.
Whitney can show you how to apply the gel.
The gels is completely different from using a pencil.
It's very different.
I'm going to actually have you hold the little spoolie, the little brush.
That's an essential step you want to finish with that.
So what you do is these gels, you want to take out the applicator.
And what you do first, and your game for this, you're ready for me to apply a little bit of a brow here?
Let's go.
All right, so you want to start.
So here's your applicator tip.
It's got the gel.
You actually want, if you want to face forward, what I'll do is I'm going to start in the middle of the brow and you want to use short strokes, guys, because you're sort of learning how to gain control here.
And then you can work onto the tail of the brow.
So it's starting to clump a little bit.
That's one of the problems with the applicator tips that are a little bit on the thick side.
So then you go towards the center.
You want to sort of fill in the center.
You do want to coat the entire brow because you want the color to be even throughout.
But what's really magic is when you bring in that spoolie or you bring in that little brush, because what that's going to do is it's going to really help to sort of even out and disperse that gel.
It is staining the hairs and sort of making the hairs look a little bit larger.
So when you do wash, it sort of does wash off.
But there are products that should be coming to the U.S. shortly that stain both the hair and the skin.
So stay tuned.
I think this technology is only going to get better.
Total difference.
100%.
I like it.
I like it too.
I love it.
And you saved it for 64 days.
I know.
Now I'm about 10 years younger and I have eyebrows.
Thank you very much.
Next horror story is waxing and burning the skin off your upper lip like that photo we just showed you all.
Yes.
Just to remind you, it's not a happy camper there.
So what should you do if you rip the skin off your upper lip?
So the first thing you want to do if you get a burn is you want to cool the burn and then after you're done cooling the burn, I love honey.
Honey is amazing when it comes to healing wounds.
But guys, we're not just talking about any honey.
So if you buy honey from the supermarket, it can actually have bacterial spores contaminating it.
So you want to look for what's called medical grade or medicinal honey.
It dramatically speeds the wound healing process.
Oldest medicine known to man, they probably developed it for people waxing 10,000 years ago.
Definitely.
They probably have to.
All those ancient Egyptians were waxing.
I have no personal experience with this problem, but once in a while I hear bikini waxing goes wrong.
It certainly can.
Very painful area.
It can be very painful, very tender.
What I love for a burn in the bikini area is zinc.
So clean hands, wash your hands first, and apply a thin layer to the bikini area, and you'll be healing in no time.
Dr. Whitney Bow, encyclopedic as always.
Thank you very much.
We'll be right back.
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But when the cameras stop rolling, the conversation is not over.
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Today, two of my favorite things together, kale and a massage.
I love kale so much that people give me shirts with kale on the shirts.
See, okay.
That's from a good friend.
You might know Jamika Pisso gave me that.
Now I'm breaking down the science of why you should be massaging your kale.
And here was Stacey, who says she eats kale several times a week.
I am so proud of you.
I am.
How do you like to prepare it?
I eat it chopped up in salads.
So do you ever find something that's a little bit tough?
Very.
Yes.
So I got an idea for you.
Have you ever massaged your kale?
I must say I have never massaged my kale.
My wife massages kale and I finally figured out why she does it.
Come on over here.
I'll teach you a little bit about the TLC around kale.
Now, if you look at a leaf under a microscope, it looks like this.
You see these little things, these little circles?
Those are plant cells, basically.
They're like human cells and animal cells, right?
Unfortunately, they're sort of tough to digest.
You got to chew through it.
That's why you struggle with kale sometimes.
So there's a theory that if you massage the kale, it helps break these leaves down, make it more tender.
These nutrients, when they break apart, not only can you chew them more easily, but they release their nutrients.
Very good.
That's a pretty cool idea.
That's very cool.
The question is: does it really work?
So we're going to put it to the test.
So you get the massage, you can don the gloves, right?
And I'll talk.
So the massaging is quite easy.
Here's how you do it.
You have the kale here.
You add half a lemon.
Okay.
Right?
That's the juice of it.
And then you add a little olive oil.
There they get massaging.
All right.
Is that fulfilling to you as you do that?
Yeah.
Nice.
I'll squeeze a little extra lemon.
Now, you got to do it for about a minute and a half.
It's not something you can rush through, but everyone knows that about massages.
So just while you're massaging, I'm going to see if this works for you.
So I have my sterile gloves on.
I'll rip this for a second.
That's the normal, unmassaged, chewy, a little bit bitter sometimes, and actually might not even be as good for you because it's not been massaged.
All that tender, loving care allows nutrients to come out.
Are you ready?
I'm ready.
Okay.
That's the massage first.
It really is better.
Isn't it?
It really is.
Smoother.
Yep.
Rolls around your mouth a little more readily.
It's like it was actually done for you by someone who really loves you.
That's right.
Which is what you've done.
Keep going.
You got a minute and a half.
You can't quit in the middle of a massage.
It's a little bit too early.
Sorry.
Together change is happening, my friends.
Our journey is just beginning.
Here, I'll help you.
I'll relieve you.
I'll help you.
I'll relieve you.
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