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April 25, 2025 - Dr. Oz Podcast
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Egg Whites, Heart Health & Smart Swaps | Dr. Oz | S10 | Ep 129 | Full Episode
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Let's look inside the yolk of an egg.
We investigate brand new science.
Now we're discovering that it may have a dark side.
That may change the way you think about your morning meal.
May create a toxic chemical.
Should we go back to eating just egg whites again?
Plus...
Want some hot dog, hot dog?
It was a challenge, but we finally found an Oz-approved hot dog.
And the winner is...
Coming up next...
Y'all ready for season 10?
Yeah! I love you, Dr. Hobbs.
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Today we're bringing you brand new science about your go-to protein power food.
Eggs.
For years, I've stood on this stage and told you there is nothing wrong with eating the yolk of the egg.
But science, you know, it's always changing.
And some are now questioning whether the yolk may increase the risk of heart disease and stroke.
And get this, it doesn't have to do with the cholesterol at all.
When news about something as important as this breaks, I want to be the first to bring it to you.
So today we are investigating eggs and answering the question, do we all need to go back to eating egg whites again?
Joining me now is food investigator Ali Rosen.
This is crazy.
In my short career as a doctor, we've gone back and forth, back and forth, in contention for decades.
So what's going on now?
Why can't we figure out whether it's good or bad for it?
It's an egg.
Right.
Well, to start with, we have to take a little trip back to the 90s to really understand.
So the 90s gave us a lot of great things like flannel and some of my favorites, boy bands.
Sorry.
But it also gave us a very strict no-yolk policy.
And that really came from cholesterol.
We found that yolk had a lot of cholesterol, and so people stopped having yolks.
And then we realized a little later, as you're saying, We're saying science is always changing.
We realize that the dietary cholesterol in yolks really has nothing to do with our cholesterol.
But some people still haven't caught up, so that's why we see a lot of egg whites on menus.
So just to be clear, if your issue is cholesterol, with rare exceptions, it's not the egg that's your problem.
No, not at all.
And once we realized that it shouldn't be villainized for cholesterol, then we started to discover some really beneficial nutrients that egg yolks offer.
So let's look inside the yolk of an egg, right?
Beautiful egg here.
Take the yolk off.
There's something here that's really important for you to know about.
It's called choline.
And it's found in eggs.
And it wasn't discovered until 1998.
But once it was discovered, it became the gold standard nutrient.
The one that's most important for a lot of people.
They think.
Now, it's essential to our brain development, liver function, nervous system, metabolism, you know, all the stuff you need to get from food, it's in this choline.
And one of the best sources, for most of you the best, actually, is egg yolks.
So choline brought the yolk back in the vogue.
But now we're discovering, Ali, to your point, that it may have a dark side.
Because...
It's being raised as a concerning issue for a lot of big-time scientists.
My good friend and chief wellness officer at the Cleveland Clinic, Dr. Mike Roizen, joins us via Zoom.
Mike, congratulations, because a lot of this research came out of your institution, and it led you to give up egg yolks again.
And you've been hammering me on this, literally confiscating eggs out of my refrigerator when you come to visit.
Why?
What is the issue?
That's right.
We've been worried about the negative health effects of egg yolks for a long time.
But it's not the cholesterol per se.
We were right, but for the wrong reason.
Animal products, some animal products, and egg yolks in particular, have a lot of what you've said, choline, a specific choline.
And it turns out that that changes the bacteria inside our gut.
And when they get in the blood, they can harm our blood vessel, increasing our risk for heart disease.
Mike, choline is essential as a nutrient for us.
It's present in foods, I guess, for a good reason.
Is the research, in your opinion, really strong enough to say, don't get your choline from eggs, stop eating the egg yolks?
Well, egg yolks are very high in choline, but we need more research on this.
And until that's done, I'm playing it safe.
Egg whites are fine, but at most one egg yolk a week, especially if they have red meat or other things in their diet, they change the bacteria and have those bacteria increase production of that inflammatory chemical.
Dr. Rosen, thank you.
Go back to work.
I see the blood pressure cuff behind you.
Take care of some patients.
Thank you.
I will.
So let's take a closer look at how choline can lead to blood clots.
I'm going to just put a little pictures behind what Mike was saying.
So when some people ingest choline from foods like eggs, it can interact.
You put the egg in your mouth, it goes into your gut.
And remember he said it can interact with certain gut bacteria in their intestines.
The gut bacteria digest the choline and they create a toxic chemical.
And this gut flora...
It differs, but that toxic chemical doesn't.
It's the same chemical that causes inflammation in blood vessels, which can lead to the formation of plaques that narrow the arteries.
It also makes the platelets more sticky, and those platelets are important for clotting, which is good if you've got a cut, right?
Skim your knee, it's fantastic.
But it's bad if you happen to have a problem inside your artery, because when you have a cut in your artery, your body then puts a scab there, stops the flow of blood, and that can cause heart attacks or stroke, all kinds of headaches.
Now, this sounds alarming, but I don't want everyone running scared of yolks just yet, because Allie has some hacks for how you can potentially reduce the harmful effects of egg yolks, and I like her ideas a lot.
So, walk us through a few.
Yeah, I do not want to only eat one egg yolk a week.
So, there's a few ingredients that can kind of counterbalance the effects of choline.
Cold-pressed extra virgin olive oil, balsamic vinegar, and red wine.
All things I love eating.
Yeah, exactly.
So apply them.
How do I use them in my food?
Right.
So we've come up with three recipes so that you don't have to, like, drink a glass of wine every morning for breakfast to help you counterbalance your eggs.
This is just a baked egg recipe.
We use four tablespoons of olive oil, which is enough to counterbalance the choline.
It has basil and some sunflower seeds, and you just bake it in the oven.
So that's a really great, easy one for anyone.
This is, if you want to get a little fancier, these are balsamic vinegar deviled eggs.
Which have balsamic vinegar, a little bit of garlic powder.
You know, you can use mayo, but you can also use your favorite of Greek yogurt.
We've got your kale and your Greek yogurt today, so very exciting.
You know, these would be great with the wine.
Right, exactly.
Drink them with the wine.
And then for a little bit of breakfast for dinner, we also do some red wine poached eggs, which is another great option.
You really just switch out the water for the...
You switch out the water for the red wine.
You literally poached the eggs in wine?
Yeah, just same regular wine.
I'm going to have you put a little cheese on top.
Yeah, there we go.
A little cheese, and you can do a little bit of parsley or basil to kind of give it that color to go with that purple.
I've got to taste this.
This is unbelievable.
I love poached eggs.
And this is one that's really great for if you want to have a dinner party.
Oh, look at the color!
Yeah, it's fun.
And you have the yolk, which Roizen will go crazy if he ever sees this.
I know.
Sorry, don't let him see.
Thank you.
He's back in the clinic.
This is a real winner, Allie.
Exactly.
Yeah, these are easy ways, and then you don't have to worry about your egg yolks.
And you can have more than one a week, because that scared me a little.
All right, coming up, you ever wonder what the deal was with liquid eggs?
How many of you guys buy liquid eggs in cartons?
All right, that makes life easy, in theory.
We're going to find out.
Stay with us.
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No-yolk substitutes that come in cartons like this, right?
These no-yolk substitutes have only increased in popularity with the low-carb, high-protein diet trends.
But are they as healthy, and could they be even healthier than the real thing?
Food journalist Allie Rosen has looked into these, and she's here to tell us the truth.
Why do people like getting their egg whites from cartons?
Well, it's really just about convenience, right?
Every time you want to make an egg white...
You've got to go in.
It's messy.
It's hard.
You've got to do the, like, back and forth.
Oh, you dropped it.
Screw it up.
Exactly.
And, you know, it's just...
You missed some.
I know.
See, exactly.
That's my point.
So people like egg substitutes because it's easier.
All right.
So the question is, are they really good for you?
So let's look into these liquid egg substitutes.
Starting with liquid egg whites.
Egg whites.
They come in cartons now.
Adriana uses them every day for breakfast, she says.
What do you love about the egg whites in the carton?
It's so easy, the simplicity of it.
I mean, I've learned and I've learned from you, too, about how important breakfast is.
And it's like we're all rushing, you know, trying to get somewhere in the morning.
And, you know, the thought of having to do that with the eggs, I just, you know, forget about it.
Protein in breakfast.
And you want to avoid the embarrassment that Allie just suffered through.
Oh, my God.
I'm even worse.
Forget about it.
So what did you find out about egg whites in a carton, Allie?
So it's really important that it says 100% egg whites because then there's no added.
So if you see 100% egg whites, that means that that's all that's in there, but you want to just make sure it has that because you don't want any additional extras.
It should be achievable relatively easily.
So we're generally in support of this.
Yeah, we're in support of it.
You just have to remember that it's more expensive.
Eggs are cheap and easy.
And then it also, you have to use it within seven days of opening.
So that's the only downside.
Save me a little bit.
Yeah, I will, definitely.
Next up, there are these zero cholesterol.
Egg substitutes.
I don't know much about these.
I've never tried these.
Teresa says she likes them.
You have not let a single egg into your house since your husband was told he has a cholesterol issue.
Correct.
Shows your love for him.
Yes.
Because you probably could have gotten away with it, maybe.
Allie, what do you know about these?
Well, so egg substitute is made with real egg...
But they're taking out the yolks.
So when they're taking out the yolks, they want to add back in a lot of those vitamins and minerals that come with the yolk.
But the issue is that they're also adding thickeners and stabilizers and coloring to try and make it look and feel like an egg.
It can have up to 31 extra ingredients.
31?
Yeah, 31 extra needs, which you can see here.
They're kind of all scrolling by.
So you really, if you're trying to eat clean, I would say this probably isn't the best choice.
And just to do what's best for you and your husband and those wonderful kids of yours, my general thought is if you're going to take something away and not eat it anymore, like if you're not going to have the yolk of the egg and just have the whites, I'm okay with that.
But trying to pretend like you have the yolk when you're not going to have the yolk, it's often not worth the effort.
Okay.
All right.
Finally, there's a new vegan egg substitute that...
Teresa, you might like this even more.
This supposedly stands up to any of the runny yolk of an egg that you may want to add to a recipe.
Sort of like, you know how with the Impossible Burger, that burger that's not with any meat but has actual blood coming out of it?
They've made a burger from vegetables?
So what are these made of?
How do they make powder into a yolk?
Yeah, I was a little skeptical because it's, you know, it's no egg, it's no cholesterol, it's no fat, and I was kind of like, are we just eating air?
Like, what's left?
Right.
But it's actually mostly made with pea protein, and then they add in nutritional yeast, which is something you see a lot in vegan food, which gives it that umami flavor.
And then there's a few, you know, guar gum and xanthan gum, beta carotene for the color, but it's mostly okay.
So you make it just by, you have a little...
You put in a little bit of water, you put in this powder, throw the top on if you will, and then you just mix it up.
That's it, you're done.
You let that go, and what comes out, and then you throw it in the microwave, and what comes out is this substitute here.
That's it there.
That's it there.
So it looks like an egg, and you can let me know if you think it tastes like an egg.
Here, I made you a little egg sandwich here.
She's a little dubious of it.
I'm a little dubious too.
But it's vegan, and the protein source, we know.
It's vegan, and, you know, pea protein is good.
Still some of those stabilizers.
What do you think?
Good.
Missing a little something, but it will get the job done.
You didn't miss your shirt, I see.
No, I got it all over me.
I actually like this, guys.
I really do.
I think this is a winner.
If you're vegan, it's a good substitute.
You know, if you're looking for something and you don't want to have any animal protein, it's a good one to try.
I'll toast the stains for any busy mom.
We'll be right back.
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That's coming up Wednesday on Dr. Oz.
Today, we are investigating one of the most popular and controversial foods.
Everyone is buying hot dogs.
You can see how excited the audience is.
When you use the word hot dogs, they all light up.
We consume 20 billion of them each year.
But there's a lot of food fiction about hot dogs, especially on social media.
Like, what kinds of meats are actually in there?
Do they really cause cancer?
We decided to look into what's real and what's not and investigate the question I get asked all the time.
Is there an Oz-approved, real-deal hot dog?
You want the answer to that, everybody?
All right.
I'm going to give it to you.
Here to help investigate is Chef Charles Shen.
So give us a little bit of hot dog history, Chef.
All right.
Where does this all come from?
Why did America get so obsessed with hot dogs?
So hot dogs have been around since the 19th century.
And one report says that they originated from Germany.
Then they were brought over to New York and served in a pushcart.
Next thing you know, they were served in butcher shops and also sports stadiums.
And people became obsessed with hot dogs.
The next thing you know, they were actually served to the Queen of England in 1939.
Talk about royalty.
It's a famous incident.
It's really what people talk about.
It was the most American food they could get.
Give to the Queen.
Yeah.
So, I gotta be honest with everybody, right?
Even though it's a fan favorite, most stockers don't like hot dogs.
We know there's health risks to them.
Yeah.
You had a big transformation.
I should say, when you brag on The Chef, you lost 100 pounds.
100 pounds.
Thank you.
Here's the before and after, everybody.
I mean...
For a chef especially, you transform your own health.
So you pay attention to health issues.
What worries you about hot dogs and health?
So this is considered processed meat, and this has been linked to a bunch of different health effects.
So looking at hot dogs, it has been linked to things like high blood pressure, diabetes.
One study actually shows that eating one daily serving of processed meat, which is one hot dog, is associated with 42% higher risk of developing coronary disease.
Heart disease.
Yes.
And that's not even talking about the cancer risks that I know the WHO has talked about with processed meats.
The question is, what's going down?
Let's investigate how hot dogs are really made.
We'll start off with the fear that a lot of Americans have voiced to me.
Which is they don't know what's actually in a hot dog.
What makes a hot dog?
No animal looks like this.
Yeah, so according to the USDA, traditional hot dogs are made from one of the following meats, pork, beef, and chicken.
And also, the packaging must state what type of meat that you're actually eating.
And from there, they actually start with trimmings, are basically what the butcher doesn't use as separate cuts.
It could be reasonable quality trimmings.
Yeah, and then they combine it all together, and then also if there's any byproducts of kidneys, liver, or heart, they must specify what...
All right.
Next thing that needs to happen for that transformation to occur is fillers.
Things that I'm always worried about because I'm not quite sure if they're what I'm paying for.
Yes, so to combine all this meat together, some brands like to use fillers such as soy proteins and also some cereal grains.
So according to the USCA, hot dogs can contain up to 3.5% of these fillers.
But this just adds to the idea that this meat is super heavily processed.
It is a process.
As I look at it here, that doesn't bother me quite as much as I thought it would.
What does bother me though...
The most controversial of all issues around the hot dogs are the nitrates.
It looks so innocuous when it's in this powdered form.
But it's a problem.
Why are they in hot dogs?
So nitrites are actually chemical compounds that are used as preservatives in processed meats such as hot dogs.
And they're used as preservatives for the meat.
Also add flavor and also adds with the color.
However, these nitrates and nitrites can actually form cancer-causing compounds in the body.
So you've got to be very careful.
I see a lot of dogs say nitrate-free.
What are they using?
How do they accomplish that?
Yeah, so when it says nitrate-free, they're using natural nitrates coming from celery.
But the amount of nitrates used is just as much as the synthetic nitrates.
So you still have to be very careful.
So if it's celery powder or celery juice, it still has the same potential risk.
Yes.
All right.
So because of all these things we're talking about, there are a lot of full hot dogs out there, like the veggie kinds.
You've heard of the veggie hot dogs, right?
Turkey dogs and the like.
So this is an example of what a turkey dog looks like.
This doesn't quite look as pretty as that hot dog I showed you earlier.
Oh, yeah.
Explain.
There's a true veggie hot dog.
These may not be quite what they're cooked up to be.
No.
So I looked at a bunch of different hot dogs on the market, Dr. Oz.
And specifically, I looked at...
Turkey hot dogs and also veggie hot dogs.
Turkey hot dogs actually contain mechanically separated turkey, which means we have no idea what kind of body parts they're using in the hot dog.
And then looking at the veggie hot dogs, we actually found they use seven times the amount of ingredients than regular hot dogs.
Seven times as many?
Seven times the amount of regular ingredients.
They found things like sugar and also hydrogenized proteins.
Which, I don't know if it's much healthier.
- So I have searched far and wide for a good hot dog replacement.
Even trying to make carrots into hot dogs.
Take a look at this effort.
This is the hot dog of my dreams!
And this is no ordinary hot dog.
Prepare for your mind to be blown by this hack.
Who wants one?
Hot dogs?
Hot dogs?
Anybody hot dogs?
Hot dogs?
Who wants a little hot dog?
Hot dog?
Guess what?
This, in here, look carefully, it's actually a Carrot.
Yeah, it didn't go over so well.
I get it.
Nothing like the real deal.
So, the moment of truth.
Can there really be a healthy hot dog?
Remember, hot dogs are not a daily food, so don't take us out of context, but if you're going to indulge once in a while, at least choose wisely.
So, Aaron from my med unit is coming out.
Come on, Aaron.
You're going to wheel out the winning hot dogs.
I present to you the best hot dog.
Aaron, come join us.
Are you ready?
And the winner is...
Ta-da!
It's a 100% beef hot dog.
Now, what does that mean?
The first ingredient needs to be beef.
It's, you say, 100% organic or grass-fed beef.
Avoid the mechanically separated stuff that we were just talking about with Chef, right?
You want to know where the meat came from.
The next ingredient has got to be water.
So it's meat, 100%, water.
That's okay.
And the ingredient label should avoid common fillers like the soy protein and cereal grains we just talked about earlier.
And one last little hack that Aaron...
Sharing with us, you don't want more than 500 milligrams of sodium.
Might cause more problems for yourself.
So where do you find these hot dogs?
So we did a lot of research on this, and you can actually find them in a lot of your local grocery stores, and even online, you can search for them.
So they're pretty easy to get.
And Chef, you've got a special topping for this better-than-usual hot dog.
Yes, absolutely.
So instead of using regular ketchup, which has a lot of sugar, I would use something like homemade salsa or pico de gallo.
Adds a nice tartness, nice texture, and it's a win-win for everyone.
And there's no sugar!
Nope!
So we're going to call them Salsa Dogs.
Who wants a Salsa Dog?
Salsa Dog, anybody?
My parents didn't go over well.
Salsa Dog.
Salsa Dog.
Give one a shot.
Give one a shot.
Go ahead.
Give it a bite.
Give it a taste.
The real Dr. Orzek.
You know, hot dogs and beer, Dr. Oz.
Proof that God loves us.
I love you too.
Guys, enjoy it.
Last more here.
Charles, thank you very much.
We'll be right back.
We all wish we could go back in time and undo the health wrongs that we've made over the years.
And today, we are telling you how with four easy steps.
*Cheering*
It's your favorite thing to click, right?
You go up there, you hit the undo button.
And as you hit it, oh, it feels so good.
But is there an undo button for your health?
Can you go back to a healthier version of you?
Well, there is an undo button to reverse disease in our bodies, and thanks to my next guest, we actually have proof.
Dean Ornish is a maverick.
He's a visionary who bravely challenged the status quo of how medicine treats disease.
Dean has been a driving force and an inspiration to me personally and many others since my early days in medical school.
Now, he and his wife, Anne, a health and stress expert, have teamed up to take all this research, all the proven work they've done, and turn it into an easy-to-follow four-step plan to stop diseases like heart disease and diabetes and dementia right in their tracks.
Please welcome my friends, Dr. Dean Ornish and Anne Ornish.
It's so fun to have you here.
I've got to say, before we get into the show, you are really one of my heroes.
And I remember vividly, I was right at the beginning of residency, and I went to this big American Heart Association meeting.
And this is a meeting where all the best new ideas are planned out.
And there was this room in the corner that was just packed.
You couldn't get into it.
And I was crawling over people trying to get inside because I knew you were speaking.
And it was one of the first talks that you gave that really threatened.
I say that word on purpose because you were challenging orthodoxy, but threatening the belief that so many in American medicine had that when you had an illness, it was yours.
We could use medications to slow it down, but you sort of were going to live with that problem for the rest of your life.
What gave you the courage, the confidence, to challenge the American medical establishment to argue that, no, lifestyles can actually reverse some of these problems?
Well, thank you for your kind words.
I appreciate it.
When I was in medical school, I did my core surgery rotation with Michael DeBakey, the eminent heart surgeon, who helped develop bypass surgery, and as a heart surgeon, you know.
And I'm sure you've had the experience of, you know, you cut people open, they go home, they do all the things that cause the problem in the first place.
You know, eat junk food and smoke cigarettes and not manage stress.
And their new arteries clog up and you cut them open again.
I said, you know, there has to be a better way.
And bypass surgery became, we were literally bypassing the problem.
So I wondered what would happen if we treated the cause.
And so I went to these things called libraries and these things called journals.
You know, there's no way to use it anymore.
And I found in dogs and cats and pigs and rabbits and monkeys, you could cause them to get heart disease if you put them under these, you know, Bad diets and so on.
And you could reverse it if you change that.
So why should people be any different?
So, Annie, you argue that it's not just about food.
There's more than that.
Absolutely not.
What makes this so powerful is that it's a comprehensive way of living.
So what you eat, how you respond to stress, how much activity you have, and really how much love and support you have are the simple choices that we make every day that can either create health and well-being or disease and suffering.
It's your choice.
Each one of us makes that choice every day many times.
We're going to make it easy to make the right choice today.
Let me put you on the spot for a second.
You debated the famous Dr. Atkins years ago.
Many times, actually.
Many times.
I remember vividly one time.
And now we're seeing a full circle come around again with paleo and keto diet advocates arguing the same things that Dr. Atkins argued.
Yes.
Why do you think those diets are not as good as the Ornish diet?
And give us a little bit of insight into why the Ornish diet has...
Probably been the best studied of all the diets for reversal of disease.
Well, because it's the only diet, our diet is the only one that's actually been proven to reverse disease.
It's why U.S. News& World Report is rated at number one for heart health almost every one of the last eight years since they've been rating diets.
The studies have shown that on a diet like I recommend, your arteries are clean.
On a standard American diet, or has an acronym of SAD diet, they're partially clogged.
And on an Atkins or paleo or keto diet, they're severely clogged.
And it's one of the reasons why when Dr. Atkins died, they published his autopsy report.
And he died of massive heart failure.
And so the problem is you can lose weight on those diets, but you mortgage your health in the process.
Whereas on the diet we recommend you can lose even more weight, but you enhance your health rather than harming it.
So our partners at SharedCare have worked to put Dean's plan into practice for millions of you, offering a comprehensive solution that is so effective.
Listen carefully.
Even Medicare covers it.
I mean, insurance companies cover it because Medicare covers it as well.
That's right.
Most insurance companies...
And it took 16 years for Medicare to do that, but I wanted it to be available to everyone, and now it is.
So Dean's book puts a lot of these insights, the book's called Undo It, into easy practice.
Let me explain to everybody why Dean Ornish's fundamental findings about undoing disease are so important.
So you all know these diseases, right?
Asthma, heart disease, diabetes, prostate cancer, you know, ulcers, reflux, all this stuff.
What Dean sees is not a lot of different diseases that look separate from each other.
He sees the same disease, just one, masquerading in different forms.
They all share the same underlying biological mechanisms of inflammation, oxidative stress, changes in your gut, your microbiome.
We've talked about these things.
So each one of these things is directly affected by how we live.
That's the one circular path we have to get into.
And what we eat and how much we exercise, it all affects this.
So what you eat matters.
How you exercise matters.
And perhaps most importantly, how much love and support you have in your lives.
They all come together.
And we can change these variables, and if we do that, we can actually reverse disease.
And there are four steps to the undue plan that you can start off today.
The first step is to add low-fat, plant-based foods to your diet.
Why are plant-based foods the cornerstone of your program, of the Ornish diet?
Well, in simple terms, they're high in the substances that keep us healthy, that have anti-cancer, anti-aging, anti-heart disease properties, and they're low in the ones that cause us to get sick.
Keeps it simple.
Really simple.
NND wanted to make the plan easy to follow.
So you found prepared foods in grocery stores.
You don't have to go into the kitchen and spend six hours making the food.
Walk us through a couple of the examples.
Well, so here is tacos.
I grew up eating meats and loving meats.
So if this wasn't savory, it wouldn't be sustainable.
So there are so many wonderful options.
It's never been easier to eat this way and be...
Fully satisfied.
So some of the crumbles that we like to use in pasta sauces, in this case tacos, these are a delicious crowd pleaser.
And it's so easy to get.
Complete protein.
Enough protein.
That's a myth.
So these are just a couple of examples.
This is called textured vegetable protein, or TDP.
That's what you'll see you call that.
Yes, we may tackle it with it, but as I mentioned, you can make lots of other meals.
It's a ground beef replacement.
Try it before you judge, guys.
I know you're out there saying, no, there's no way, right?
But soy-based proteins do work, and these little bacon things are soy.
All right.
Let's take a look at what this meal plan looks like in real practice.
Who else to call in here but Renata, our go-to tester.
Renata tells it like it is.
I just showed a couple examples there.
Simple hacks you can buy in a grocery store.
But these are actual meals we made.
And this is a go-to lunch option.
It's a lentil, chili, and greens that we are making.
There's a lasagna to get to in a second.
Why is this your power choice?
Okay, so this was my favorite because this...
Actually mimics actual ground beef.
Yeah, I said it, ground beef, okay?
It's nice and thick.
The lentils actually replace the ground beef option.
And this is a winner for me.
All right, let's go over to this lasagna, which I know you're waiting for.
It's finished lasagna, everyone's favorite.
This is a whole wheat lasagna.
Noodles, though, are straight up whole grain.
And their tofu is used with nutritional yeast instead of ricotta.
So this is not ricotta.
Right.
Are you guys cooked with this usually?
Oh, yeah.
It's delicious.
Now, I know you're not a big tofu fan, but tofu takes on the flavor of whatever you put into it.
So, Renata, you have road-tested many a dish for us.
Yes.
Your thoughts on the spinach lasagna.
Okay, so, you know...
Pass this over here.
So, before I made it, I was like, you want me to eat tofu, Dr. Ahns?
Yes.
That's exactly what she said.
But this has the pasta in it.
It has the tofu.
The tofu and the yeast, it takes on the taste of cheese!
And, you know, we...
This is really, really fabulous.
Yes, yes.
It's full.
It's thoughtful.
Actually, you wouldn't know it wasn't ricotta cheese.
Absolutely.
That's the point, Dr. Oz.
A toast to the oranges on this.
We're going to put these recipes plus an amazing blueberry banana smoothie, which I did not let Renathia have yet, on DrRoz.com.
You're going to try it.
There it is.
It looks so good, Renathia.
It could have been yours.
All right, when we come back, it takes less than 30 minutes, but it could keep you out of a doctor's office like mine for the rest of your life.
Stick around.
This is fabulous.
I love getting to talk with you on my show every single day.
But when the cameras stop rolling, the conversation is not over.
I still have a lot that I want to talk about.
So download the Dr. Oz podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Thank you.
We're back with a brand new four-step plan to undo the diseases that you dread the most.
Dr. Dean Ornish and his wife Anne have seen the effects change the lives of their patients firsthand.
And now they're sharing it with you.
We've got food.
We talked about that a little bit.
Let's take a look at what else we need to deal with, including stress.
Because the next step of the plan is how to use mindful methods to reduce stress.
We pay a lot of lip service to this concept of stress.
But you've used tactics to address it in these plans that you and ShareCare have all over the country with unbelievable results.
Yeah.
Well, stress, as you know, can activate all the mechanisms you talked about earlier that really underlie all these chronic diseases.
But the good news is that the stress comes not just from what you do.
More important is how you react to what you do.
And the kinds of things that Ann can talk about are ways that we found you can be in the same job, the same family, and react in different ways and accomplish even more without getting stressed and sick in the process.
Ann, give us some hacks.
You say a lot of us do it wrong.
We have this very intent desire to meditate, but we can't do it.
Well, I think that if we're waiting for a meditation retreat, that perfect moment where the waters have been parted, that's probably not going to happen.
So we have to take advantage of the time that we do have.
And by just taking a moment to refocus our attention, we can take the same stressful moment like road rage, but reorient ourselves by reorienting our attention.
Crazy as it sounds, everybody, your new meditation space is going to be your car.
Think about it.
You're in there anyway, right?
You're driving, America's commute a lot, or going shopping, whatever you're doing.
Keep your eyes open.
Dean's always warning people to do that.
But you can actually get into a calm space and use that positive energy to reshape your life.
When you talk about the effect of stress, it's like you're talking about the effect of food.
All those risk factors you mentioned.
Remember, there's one cause of it all.
That's right.
It makes it a lot easier to keep up with life.
Okay, the next step in the plan that you have to use to undo disease is to fill your day with short bursts of energy using resistance.
Now, Renata, who's not been a big advocate of exercise, has designed her own resistance training mode.
Now, you've got a band there, which costs less than a dollar, I think.
Last time I priced it out.
So, are you going to do a biceps curl?
What are you going to do for us?
So, I'm going to demo for you a bicep curl, sitting down, no less.
How about that?
I like it.
All you have to do is you get one of these little resistance things.
Like you said, they only cost a dollar, a buck in the store.
Put it around your foot right there, okay?
Get that planted, and all you have to do is sit here and one, and two.
Look at these guns.
Come on now!
Look at these guns.
Yes!
Listen, the key is...
I'm sure done.
You could be sitting at work, tasks that you normally can't get a lot of exercise on.
No one's going to know you're doing this.
You can do pulls under the desk.
Your legs can be going like this under the desk.
But you need to get a little activity.
You need to get a little breathy for about half an hour.
And if you do that, it changes a lot.
It changes everything.
And it's so simple.
And you can do it anywhere, as you say.
So there's a surprising effect that this exercise is going to have that you're going to enjoy.
It's going to affect your brain.
Absolutely.
And Dean, your study is looking at, you know, again, I'm so impressed that you've demonstrated you can reverse heart disease.
And actually, early stage prostate cancer.
These are seemingly very different diseases with one common mechanism.
But the Alzheimer's story is the most compelling to me.
Well, Alzheimer's shares the same underlying mechanisms as all these other conditions.
And I think we're at a place with Alzheimer's that we were 50 years, 40 years ago with heart disease when we started doing work.
So we're now doing the first randomized trial to see if we can reverse Alzheimer's disease.
So stay tuned.
We're hopeful.
You could be part of it.
Listen, the final step is pretty simple.
It is to find a way of loving and supporting people in your life and making sure they do the same with you.
That's how you connect with people around you.
That's how I feel about both of you guys.
Dean and Ann, thanks for being lifelong friends.
God bless you both.
You can check out their new book.
It's called Undo It.
There's a picture of it.
It's available now.
The thing is, the audience, I mean, they want to reverse heart disease and prevent Alzheimer's and deal with anything else that they're meant.
Can they have a copy?
I think you should give everyone a copy.
You guys want a copy of the book?
You're all going over the copy of Dean's book!
We'll be right back.
Now, thanks.
An investigation into cough drops.
Do they really work?
we reveal the results of our first ever cough experiment.
Make sure you don't want to miss this time of year, especially if you're doing this.
Yeah, you know who you are, coughing it away, and you're desperate for any type of relief right this second.
So we're uncovering the truth about cough drops.
Do they really work?
And can you really get addicted to them?
Here to help me figure it out is my go-to tester, Renatha.
How are you?
Hello.
So, you may not know it, but Renata, she loves to sing backstage.
I hear it all the time.
You argue cough chops are your go-to remedy when you have a scratchy throat.
They are my go-to remedy.
You know what?
I'm so glad you're doing this because sometimes when I'm really hoarse, there's about 20 pieces of cough chops in one bag.
I'll eat the whole bag in one day.
The whole bag?
Yes, the whole bag in one day.
How many baggers are there here?
We have a couple baggers here.
Yeah, there's more than a couple.
That's not uncommon.
Yeah.
We'll talk about that as well.
Come on over here.
We've been bringing in turnist Dr. Cassandra Gelbart.
She's been treating a lot of colds this season.
She's going to help us uncover the truth about cough drops.
Let's start with what's really in cough drops.
Cough drops, hard candies, compare them.
So cough drops, just like hard candies, often contain sugar, corn syrup, artificial sweeteners, and preservatives.
So let me tell you something.
You have three of these cough drops.
Just three?
Right?
That's four grams of sugar in each one of these drops.
That's the same number of sugar as a donut.
Shut up.
Donut.
A donut?
Think about that.
Three cough drops, you're basically having a donut.
Keep that in the back of your mind.
And I get the whole bag in one day.
Yeah, I just did the math.
I'm at the seven donuts.
Oh, wow.
Oh, wow.
Dang, Renata, dang.
At least have coffee.
All right, so move on down here.
So we understand that these are actually more similar than we'd like to admit.
The other ingredient that we see in a lot of cough drops is menthol.
What is menthol, by the way?
Menthol is made from mint oil and peppermint, and it has a really soothing effect on the throat because it numbs the throat, and it adds a cooling sensation.
If that's the case, then why do I see patients, friends, come back and sometimes say that...
It actually makes it a little bit worse.
So there was actually a recent study that showed that too high of a dose of menthol can worsen your cough by causing an increase in mucus buildup and irritating the throat.
Like a bag worth?
A bag worth!
Right.
So we decided to do a little experiment using some of the most popular cough drops, their brains and the hard candies.
We're going to compare them.
Are you ready for this?
Alright.
It's a big deal.
We got participants and we broke them into four different groups.
Here are the groups.
Okay.
Group number one and find yourself here.
The peppermint lovers, right?
Peppermint candy.
Now, this is a control group, which means it doesn't actually have a specific role in stopping a cough.
And the question is, does sucking on anything, just a piece of hard candy, actually reduce cough symptoms?
That's group number one.
Group number two, menthol people, like we just talked about with Renata.
The active ingredient here provides that cooling sensation that so many of us enjoy.
Then there are the people who like pectin.
These are the most popular brands.
You can find out which brand if you want to look into it.
But I see a lot of people doing pectin solutions.
You know why?
Because it coats your throat.
Which, again, seems to be effective, at least many would argue.
But we're going to put it to the test.
And then the fourth group, well, they got a product that had zinc in it.
And zinc has been shown to shorten the duration of your cold.
But does it really help with the cough itself?
So we have participants follow the package instructions, right?
They took one cop drop, one of these four cop drops, every two hours.
And then, 15 minutes after taking the cop drop, or the candy, because there's a control group with the peppermint down there, right?
They have to give us a little rating.
Did it work for them or not?
Renata, before we reveal the results of the group, which one of these were you randomized to, and how did it work for you?
I was randomized to the zinc.
And the zinc didn't do nothing for me, doctor.
It didn't.
It didn't do anything for me.
No, none whatsoever.
We'll come back to that, because that's the one thing that seems to work to shorten the duration of the cold, but you're saying it didn't actually help the cough.
Right.
Okay.
Ready for the results, everybody?
Excited?
All right.
The answer is right up here.
Three of the four groups had a majority of people who felt a small improvement.
And you know what or not, interestingly, the zinc, like you, most folks didn't see any change.
How is that so?
The one thing with all the data about reducing duration of the cough didn't seem to actually affect the cough.
Right, right.
So zinc's been proven to reduce the duration of the common cold, but not necessarily the severity of the symptoms.
All right, so I might actually want to take zinc plus something else.
Correct.
Theoretically.
Yeah.
So what do you look for when you're buying a cough drop?
So I always tell my patients to try and find a cough drop that's low in sugar, corn syrup, artificial sweeteners.
So keep track of this stuff.
Don't go for the head fake.
Get stuff that's relatively pure.
But if you really want to take it to the next level, you probably want some at-home solutions.
So up next, we're going to give you those.
At-home solutions that'll get you through the cold season.
Stick around.
Thank you.
you
The doctor and nurse charged with murder.
Of their own son.
I forgot how to do CPR.
All new Oz.
That's coming up tomorrow.
*Applaudissements*
We've been investigating the truth about cough drops, and now I'm revealing the at-home cold relief solutions that really work.
My go-to tester, Anatha, is back to try them out.
Thank goodness I don't have to.
The first at-home solution, it's pineapple tea to relieve your sore throat.
Now, you all know I love tea with honey.
Honey is the oldest medicine around there.
But pineapple, they might help your cold as well.
You think you might be able to put pineapple in tea?
Look at this.
The pineapple has bromelain in it.
Bromelain, of course, anti-inflammatory, pain-reducing properties.
It also breaks down the mucus.
And adding it to your tea is a great way to soothe your throat.
Do you feel your throat coming alive?
Listen, I feel my health coming on, okay?
Let me sing.
Amazing grace, how sweet the sound.
Yeah! Yeah, Reynasha.
I will toast you and your amazing grace.
Indeed.
Indeed.
Thank you so much.
All right.
Now, if you're stuffed up, one of my favorite go-to solutions is what?
Nettie pot.
Why don't you say it like that?
Take a look at my experience with it.
What do you guys think?
Should we do it?
Goes through your sinus as it flushes them out.
I'm going to stop now.
Don't move until it comes out.
You got to hit the ball.
Oh, you got it.
You got it.
Whoa!
Oh, that feels good.
Is Rebecca doing it or not?
I can't tell.
Engage your nostril?
Engage your nostril with the tip of this thing.
All right.
You see it coming out?
What came out of her nose?
Is this stuff floating around in there?
I know it looks crazy, but it really works.
Oh, I like this.
Oh, don't lie.
I like it.
It feels good.
It's an old-fashioned apoc.
What are the oldest solutions known to men?
Actually, 2,000 years old probably.
Ayurvedic medicine experts are using this.
But I've seen real lines in neti pot.
That's why it's important to use the right kind of water when you use the neti.
A woman uses water in her neti pot, just called regular tap.
Which, of course, sometimes can cause problems.
Or it can cause a deadly brain infection.
And while a doctor is very rare, you've got to distill the water.
Or purify it, or boil the thing for three to five minutes.
You just gotta really get it clean.
You gotta put it up near your brain.
The top of your nose touches your brain.
So make sure this stuff is clean, but it does work.
And it will continue to work, and I personally like it a lot.
You can find all these solutions at DrOz.com.
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