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GMO Apple Controversy: Is the Arctic Apple Really Safe? | Dr. Oz | S6 | Ep 121 | Full Episode
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Today on Oz.
The first genetically modified apple.
It stays white after you slice it.
How do you know if the apple's actually rotting if it doesn't turn brown?
Dr. Oz investigates.
What is making this apple not turn brown?
And is this dangerous to our health?
If it's safe to eat, would you serve an apple engineered in a lab to your family?
Coming up next on Dr. Oz.
Would you buy this apple if I told you it wouldn't brown when you cut into it or took a bite?
Would you buy this apple if I told you it was genetically modified to not turn brown?
Well, a lot of people are banking on your answer.
The US Department of Agriculture recently approved the first genetically modified apple.
They're calling them the Arctic Apple.
It's the quintessential image of perfect health.
The Apple.
But nature's perfect fruit just got even better, according to Okanagan, the Canadian company that genetically modified it.
Thanks to genetic modification, the so-called Arctic apple no longer turns brown after it's sliced, staying fresh and white for days.
But will consumers bite?
The inventor sure hopes so.
They're also banking on the food service industry buying into this alternative to a fruit that otherwise costs a lot to preserve.
And despite growing concerns about the safety of GMO foods, the U.S. government has approved the sale of the Arctic apple.
So that means fresh-cut, genetically modified apples could soon be showing up at your children's schools, in grocery stores, salad bars, and restaurants.
But is America ready for the GMO apple?
Here are the facts as we know them.
Right now, the two biggest GMO foods are corn and soybeans.
Now, these GMOs were created to benefit the farmer's need for pest control.
What makes this apple different is it's being genetically modified for consumer convenience.
But will consumer convenience be enough to win over the public, who have become suspicious of GMOs?
So I wanted to ask a couple of consumers, people like you.
So Charlene, what are your initial thoughts about this idea of an apple that doesn't...
Turn brown when you cut into it.
I love apples.
Fugees, Macintosh, Honeycrisps, and I like that they're supposed to turn brown when you cut them, unless you use lemon juice.
I don't know about this new GMO apple.
I don't know, Dr. Oz.
Okay, so you like the old-fashioned way they turn.
Love the old-fashioned way and eat them a lot.
Stacy, you're a mom.
Yes. Do you think your kids will eat more apples if they don't brown, if you can cut them up and store them more readily?
Yes. Dr. Oz, I think that apples are such a healthy fruit to be able to pack in a lunch and send your kids off with nice sliced apples for the day.
They're so healthy.
But if they turn brown, they're not very appealing to small children.
So it might benefit them.
It might benefit them, and then there's less to waste.
And Alice, you have actually the question that surprised me the most, but I heard it a lot as I was doing my research for this show.
Go ahead.
Well, my question is, what is making this apple...
Not turn brown.
And is this dangerous to our health?
Is it going to create problems?
You know, right now everything might be good, but 20 years from now we're going to hear all those apples that you ate were unhealthy and caused some kind of health problem down the line.
So I invited, thank you for your questions, I invited the president of Okanagan Specialty Fruits, that's the company behind these Arctic apples, to join me.
Neil Carter, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
So, we're going to address some of consumers' concerns.
We're going to have an open conversation.
We'll hear from others on the other side of the aisle later in the discussion.
Lots of confusion about whether or not it's a problem if you don't know if it turned brown or not.
So if you can address that question.
How do you know if the apple is actually rotting if it doesn't turn brown?
Yeah, and this is a good question, and I think it's important to understand that arctic apples are just like any other apple in this regard.
So as much as we made them not go brown, it's really just the enzymatic browning that we've turned off on the apple.
When an apple rots, it has, you know, other pathogens, bacteria and fungi.
They have their own enzymes that make them go brown.
So then you heard a little bit of resistance from viewers about this whole idea of genetically modifying a fruit for cosmetic reasons.
Yet you argue this is not just a mild inconvenience for the industry.
No, this is a huge headwind that the industry has been, you know, challenged with from its, you know, inception.
Particularly in our convenient, you know, this convenience-driven world today where apples, as a whole apple, are too big a commitment.
So, you know, apple consumption has declined.
You know, the fact you can't text and drive and eat an apple at the same time, these sorts of things.
So, you know, if you look at this grocery store today, there's a lot of fresh-cut apples and ready-to-eat apples.
And, you know, we...
We know that by making an apple not go brown, it makes it more suitable for food service, and really for us, it's putting more apples in more places.
We want to increase apple consumption, and food service is already telling us.
They're very excited about this, the opportunity to put apples in their products.
You say that, but large companies, very big organizations, McDonald's, Gerber, they've already said they're not going to use the genetically modified apples.
Are you worried about an anti-GMO backlash?
Well, we'd be pretty naive if we weren't, of course.
You know, we've been at this for a long time and we know that there's a strong sentiment about it.
But we also know that it's, you know, a very small vocal segment because we've done our consumer research and we've looked at it and we know that the Arctic apple, any time a consumer or folks get to experience the apple, they love it.
And as you mentioned, it's designed for consumers as opposed to dealing with pesticide issues and the like.
So there's very few free lunches in the world, and obviously folks are going to be hesitant about a dramatic change, perceived dramatic change anyway, in a mainstay of what we have thought of as a healthy food.
So let me show everyone what's actually going on, what Okanagan Specialty Fruits has done, and then I'm going to come back and have a little bit of a debate over this.
So let's first of all understand what's really happening when you genetically modify a fruit.
So if you look at an apple, when you cut into an apple, and you've all experienced this, you bite into it, there's going to be an enzyme that tells the apple to turn a little bit brown over time.
This is why your kids, as we heard earlier, sometimes don't want to eat these things.
And it is a problem for manufacturers, especially when you can't keep these things in the
So, how do you avoid...
This browning process.
The answer lies inside the cells of the apple.
This is where Okanagan specialty fruits went.
So there's the rind of the apple up there, and these individual little things are cells.
All little cells there.
So you remember this from high school biology class.
Inside these little cells, there's a blueprint.
It's called DNA, right?
And that blueprint for an apple tells the apple a lot of things, a lot of instructions.
Like, for example, please be green or red.
Be sweet.
Be nutritious.
And it tells the apple when to turn brown, when it's damaged.
So what they did with these arctic apples, they took a little bit of that blueprint for the turning brown part, and they changed it so the gene doesn't work the same way.
So it turned off this ability of the apple to turn brown when it's cut in two.
Not when it's rotting, but when it's cut in two.
So critics argue, and this is an important issue, critics say, just because you turned off one trait doesn't mean you haven't influenced the other ones.
Could you make it less nutritious?
Could you impact what color it turns?
And more important things you don't even know about.
Could those have been turned off?
So the USDA...
I want to bring in a GMO expert.
He's a consumer report scientist, Michael Hansen.
Michael, if you could.
Help outline some of your concerns over potential health issues.
Well, there's two main issues.
One is the technology that they're using to turn these genes off, this RNAI interference.
it can also potentially turn off other genes that have that same sequence.
And so you really need to do a proper safety assessment.
I would point out when a similar use of this technology is used in pest control, last year the EPA's scientific advisory panel said that further questions needed to be answered.
USDA ignored that.
The second potential problem is the enzyme that's involved in browning is also an enzyme that's used in plant defense.
So the question is, since this gene has been turned off in the apples, are these more susceptible to diseases?
So could that increase the use of pesticides on these apples?
We don't know because the appropriate tests haven't been done.
Neil, how confident are you that you can just turn off one little part of the DNA, the blueprint, but not affect the rest of the apple, either making it less healthy for us or creating other kinds of problems?
Well, I'd say I'm 100% confident.
You've had these in the field for 12 years.
You know, I'm an apple grower myself.
I don't want to introduce a product in the marketplace that, you know, doesn't deserve to be there.
So we grew fruit and looked at them for 10 years and collected five years worth of fruit data.
And in every way, they are identical to their parents, so any other apple cultivar.
So, you know, we're very confident.
And then in addition to that, we have, you know, five years of regulatory scrutiny.
So, Michael, your opinion?
Do you feel that consumers need a genetically modified apple that has these traits?
Well, I would point out a number of things.
First, the non-GMO label is actually the fastest growing label in the food industry right now.
Second, these apples just deal with a cosmetic issue, as you have pointed out.
And so if the consumer in the home wants to keep apples white, they can use lemon juice or something else.
The issue this raises is on salad bars and elsewhere.
If these apples aren't labeled, that could raise a consumer fraud issue because most consumers, if they see a white sliced apple in a salad bar or elsewhere, they'll think it's been freshly cut.
They won't know that it might have been that way for a couple days.
So if I can offer some thoughts.
First of all, I treasure the fact that you're here.
It's hard to have this conversation in America right now.
The two sides aren't talking to each other very much.
So I commend you for your transparency, the fact that you've been willing to come and articulate in a very tasteful way at many levels why these apples make sense.
I still think you ought to be equally transparent on labeling them as being a GMO product.
I'm personally conflicted about this whole issue because...
You know, the concerns we have around GMO labeling is that they're trying to demonize the technology.
You know, it's being advocated by anti-biotech folks and anti-GM crop folks.
And so that, you know, they're trying to drive the market to their category, organic foods or otherwise.
So it's really, it's being driven by other business objectives.
And I think that's completely wrong.
And so for now, you know, what we've done is our capitals will be labeled.
I see you had our label in your entree there.
So the consumer will make an educated decision.
If it's got our little logo sticker on it, it's Arctic.
But at its very core, a consumer would have to know that an Arctic apple is GMO.
And I think the real debate in America isn't, in my opinion, about whether GMO is dangerous or not.
It's about whether you have a right to know that it's GMO so you can decide.
Let me, if I can, share some data we got from a Dr. Ross poll.
We asked if you would be willing to buy genetically modified apples if they didn't turn brown.
And 84% of our viewers said, no, you wouldn't.
We then reached out to the U.S. Apple Association.
They said, in part, apples are safe, healthy, nutritious, and delicious, all of which is true, I agree.
So now consumers will simply have one more choice in which apples they decide to purchase, whether that is an Arctic non-browning apple or the dozens of traditional choices that remain non-GMO.
So let me offer some final thoughts on my behalf.
I respect anyone who tries to make it more convenient for Americans to eat healthy foods.
Like produce.
We don't do enough of that.
Good work.
And although I like to use lemons on my apples, to Michael's point, it does help them stop from browning.
I understand the need that Arctic Apples is trying to fill.
I base this whole show on the fact that you can make smart choices for your health and for your family, but you can only make those smart choices when you're fully informed.
So I stand by my opinion that all GMOs should be labeled so that consumers can decide for themselves.
I'll be right back.
Next, Olympic swimming legend Amy Van Dyken.
The day her world changed when an accident left her paralyzed.
Undaunted and unbroken, how she came back stronger than ever.
I'm going to live every single moment to its fullest.
Her winning spirit is a lesson to us all.
Next. All new Oz.
Meet a woman who spent most of her life trapped in a man's body.
It started when I was around four.
Something was wrong.
Understanding transgender.
All new Oz.
That's coming up tomorrow.
We do this show all year long.
Today, how one of swimming's iconic Olympic legends, Amy Van Dyken, is turning her injury into inspiration.
Decorated Olympic swimmer Amy Van Dyken has been going for the gold all her life.
She was the most successful athlete at the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta, winning four gold medals, accomplishing what no other American woman had done before.
Her success landed her on the iconic Wheaties box, made her ESPN's Female Athlete of the Year, and got her inducted into the US Olympic Hall of Fame.
In 2000, Amy won two more gold medals in Sydney, setting even more American and world records.
After six gold medals, Amy retired and married former Denver Broncos punter Tom Ruin.
But this past summer, a tragic accident changed Amy's life forever.
Losing control of her ATV, Amy drove over the side of an embankment, severing her spine and leaving her paralyzed from the waist down.
Today, how the beloved Olympian is facing her biggest challenge of all.
Amy Van Dyken is here.
I remember hearing the story, and we spoke over the summer.
It still, to me, is sort of stunning, and I have no idea how you cope.
So if you don't mind, the key question for me is, was there ever a point throughout this process where you just wanted to throw the towel in, where you wanted to give up?
Never. Not one time.
I'm so happy, Dr. Oz, to be here every single day.
I'm living on borrowed time.
I'm not supposed to be here.
So I'm going to live every single moment to its fullest.
Turn lemons into limoncello, if you will.
So that picture that we just showed everybody of the spine that was severed, that's your spine.
And right next to the spine is the aorta, the big blood tube.
So the operation they had to do to stabilize you was a very dangerous one.
This is an operation that people died during.
The risk and severity was so significant, you said goodbye to your husband, I understand.
I did.
Before you went into the OR.
I did, yeah.
My doctor, my neurosurgeon, Dr. Toomey Allen, said, listen, I'm working in nanometers.
Chances are you're not going to make it out, so you guys need to say goodbye just in case.
And I thought, in that moment, I said, listen, in order for him to live a full life, let him date.
So I said, you could move on.
You know, date.
Do what you need to do.
Because you hear stories about people going, I don't know what my spouse would want me to do.
Would they want me to date?
And I wanted him to know that it was okay, but surgery was over and I immediately, first thing I had to do was say, whoa, whoa, we take it back.
And who's the hot blonde in the corner?
That's right.
These are trying moments.
Yeah. What inspired you to keep pushing?
Listen, I'm happy to be here, Dr. Oz.
I truly am.
So I'm working so hard.
I'm working probably harder now than I did for the games because I'm not going for a gold medal.
I'm going for my life back.
I'm going to be able to walk someday.
Knock on wood.
So I have to push it.
So you brought your husband along for the trip.
Tom is joining us, the front row, a professional athlete.
You've challenged yourself in the past just to be the best you can be.
It's a whole different level to watch your wife have to take the brunt of this.
How did you find the strength to be there for her?
You know, it was tough, but it was one of those things where I knew what she was going through laying there on the table and what she was facing ahead of her that I just had to just keep calm and just kind of be the rock.
What about the offer to get married again?
Find somebody else.
Yeah, she took that back right away once she came out of surgery.
Grab my camera and show it to everybody.
So we did speak over the summer and I was following all the tweets and the social media that you were putting out, which is most of the information we were getting.
And this is the part that amazed me.
This is your attitude.
This is a little tweet that she sent out after the accident.
How many of you would say this if your lung on your back having been a multi-gold medal winner?
Just thinking out loud, now I will get really good seats at Diamondbacks games and my other favorite sports teams.
Awesome. Bring in my own chair as well.
I got my own chair, I got good parking too.
Right. And how do you do that?
I just, I sit here thinking, oh my God, I'd be so bitter, I'd be so angry.
All this, I was given so much.
Yes, you did things most of us could never imagine doing.
Walking away with gold medals at different Olympic games.
But then it's all seemingly taken away from you.
Mm-hmm.
If you would have told me after my first games this would have happened to me, I wouldn't have handled it well at all.
Because at that moment, I really didn't have a life outside of swimming, right?
So now I've had the life experiences, you know, to be able to look at this and say, it's okay.
Well, that was the undaunted and unbroken.
Amy put her winning spirit to work.
She's been working seven hours of physical therapy every day, and we have this footage.
If you don't mind, describe what this is.
The amount of work that I know it's taking.
This is you in the pool.
Yeah, and it was very different, you know, because here I'm trying to do what I used to do in swimming.
But it was very, very different.
Here I am, learning how, if I fall on the floor, which happens a lot, how to get back up, get back up into my chair.
Worked very tirelessly at that, and, you know, you learn how to live your life.
So there's a milestone I know you've been seeking, and you have a big announcement about it.
So I'd love, if you don't mind, to share the news with all of our viewers.
Okay, well, we had an exciting day not too long ago, a couple months ago.
I had this big contraption.
That was just strapped on me and I actually walked.
You did?
Oh, there you are!
There you are!
I did.
Look at that!
Right? It makes me so happy.
No, seriously, it shows the wonderful ability of the human body to regenerate itself.
And I do personally believe we're going to be able to get ahead of spinal cord injuries and find ways of connecting these nerves.
It's one of the great frontiers.
Yes. But it's the undaunting spirit of people overcoming the challenges they face day in and day out that makes it all worthwhile.
I guess it's unbelievable.
You're back doing swimming competitions now.
You're refereeing them now.
Yeah, I actually call them.
So when you watch them on TV, I'm the person going, and that stroke really shouldn't look like that at all.
So yeah, there's me and one of my partners, Jason Knapp.
So yeah, I'm back at it.
And here's the thing, Dr. Oz.
I put that headset on, and when you hear me, my brain and my mouth are not paralyzed.
You would never know that I couldn't walk.
It was a great honor to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
Congratulations. Thank you.
I have something for you.
I do.
I do.
Listen. When I got injured, people started something and we've made a foundation and I want you to be a part.
I want you to be a part of Amy's Army if you don't mind.
I would love.
Amy's Army, an honorary member.
Thank you.
We'll be right back.
Next, can colors reveal your personality?
And what does it mean for your health?
Colors impact our choices, feelings, and behaviors.
Decode your personality here with three simple questions.
Find out what color you are and the clues to protect your health.
Next. Next.
Thank you.
Yeah!
I love learning about things that we don't realize impact our health.
So today I'm exploring how color can reveal your true personality and what that means for your health.
It turns out your personality color could be either red, yellow, orange, or green.
Here to help find your personality color is an innovator in the field of personality behavior, Dr. Carol Rittberger.
I'm fine.
Thank you.
Color and psychology.
How do you connect them, and how does that tell us much about our health and our personality?
Well, color is a common language.
We use it all the time.
In Western culture, it actually talks, we apply it to behavior, such as, I'm red with anger, or I'm green with envy.
So it's a very easy way for us to look at personality.
All we've got to do then is teach people how to find their color.
Dr. Rithberger wants you to answer three simple questions.
There's multiple choices.
Keep track of the answers.
Everyone in the audience is going to do it.
Everyone at home will do the same.
First question.
When faced with a big project at home or at work, you are, A, deadline-driven, while you're watching the clock all the time.
B, you're worrying, spending most of your time pretty anxious.
C, you're always scanning, looking for better ideas.
You've got the best ideas for the best concepts.
You're happy then.
D, you make it a group effort.
The more, the merrier.
So you have four choices.
Pick the one that applies to you.
We all clear on this?
Okay, you picked your letters already?
All right.
Second question.
When someone asks you for a favor, You, A, want to know what you're getting in return.
B, you say, yeah, sure, but you have second thoughts right afterwards.
C, you tell them you're going to get back to them so you can agree about maybe what you could do together.
And D, you agree, and you go full throttle.
There's no turning back.
No changing your mind.
All right?
Remember your second letter.
That's the last question I'm going to ask you.
When you're stuck in traffic, A, you honk your horn a lot.
You've got to get home, and you deserve to get home.
B, never honk your horn.
Why add to the stress?
C. You know all the shortcuts.
You always find the new routes to get home.
And D. You dance along to the radio.
Having a good time.
Alright, you all got your numbers down?
Your letters?
You all clear on this?
You know what I am?
I do know what you are.
What do you think I am?
I think you're a C. I think you're a yellow.
She's right.
I'm a yellow.
I'm a prototypical yellow.
You're just a perfectionist.
Alright, so we're going to start with the A's though.
I'm going to save myself for later on.
Let me see hands up.
Who's all the A's out there?
There's got to be some A's.
There's like three A's over here.
No one's acknowledging it.
All right, come on over here.
We're going to see what color goes along with the A's.
So please reveal the personality color, Carol.
All right.
It is red.
The red personality.
It's not unusual to not have a lot of reds in the audience like this.
That personality is one that just get it done people.
They're competitive.
They're driven.
They're deadline oriented.
They like to have control of their environment.
They like to just see that everything gets done.
No measurement on effort, bottom line.
And what are the health problems that A's typically have?
A's typically tend to hold the stress and the tension in their lower back.
Maybe that's why I have so much back pain in America, with a lot of A's in the country.
We do.
A lot of what we call type A's, literally.
And we see red.
Absolutely, they see red.
All right, friends, Angelina and Carol are joining us to help us.
Now, Carol answered mostly B's, and Angelina answered mostly C's.
Dr. Rittberger, go ahead and show the color that goes along with the B's.
It is orange.
Orange. The orange personality is the just let's get it along people.
They just are cooperative.
They're kind.
They're generous.
They always put other people's needs before their own.
Well, one of the things with the orange is that the way your brain works is you have to make sense of things and it has to feel right.
So it's like your brain is always going back and forth.
And if you don't have the time to do that, it shows up in your lower stomach.
And then what you do is then it can cause you to worry.
And then that changes the chemistry of your body and, doggone, they end up with depression!
Depression. Angelina, is that possible for Carol?
I don't think so.
Actually, I was drawn to Carol because she's so happy.
So I don't see her.
Yeah, very happy people.
But they do worry.
Do you worry?
I do worry.
Most definitely.
Yeah, they worry about anything and everything.
Yeah. Does that sound right?
I could see her worrying about something.
Maybe a little bit.
Let's turn a tide here.
Go into the C's over there.
I'm going to see what they think now.
So, Angelina, it's your turn.
Okay. You go on over there.
Go ahead and reveal the color.
All right.
So the question is, for all these C's out there, your color's yellow.
Yellow. I'm a yellow.
You're a yellow.
You're a yellow.
I'm a yellow.
You are.
Great people.
Great people.
We're just wonderful people.
Also, that's one of our qualities.
We're not necessarily the most humble.
No. Yes.
Take humbleness to a new low.
Exactly, exactly.
So what's our personality type?
So what that says is that you like to do things different.
Kind of the motivation is to build a different mousetrap.
Everything about you is visionary, innovative, and never wanting to be really boxed in so you can really think about things.
And so what are the health problems Angelina and I are going to have?
Well, one of the things is we actually hold the stress in our stomach area.
It's like we...
Following that gut instinct.
And then what happens when we don't do that?
We get all this tension, and we actually are prone to tension headaches.
And that's one of the things that we end up with.
Does it sound like it might be on target?
Absolutely. I hope that's helpful to the two of you.
Let me turn to the last color, Ds.
How many Ds are out there?
Show of hands, Ds.
Show a number of Ds.
All right, the Ds are greens.
That's correct.
So what does the green color mean for them?
The greens are very happy people.
They like everything to be teamwork.
They're dreamers.
They love to create.
They love to see all the possibilities and things.
And they truly believe that if you think you can do it, you can do it.
Even if it's the very first time.
And what are the health problems they run into?
One of the things with greens when they get stressed is they tend to hold their breath.
And when they hold their breath, then what happens is those shoulders start creeping up.
So they have a lot of neck and shoulder problems.
Let me see the greens again.
Put your hands up.
Here, we got some here.
Let me come over here.
I want to see how accurate this is.
Stand up if you don't mind.
Does that sound like you at all?
What's your first name?
My name's Kara.
Kara, does that sound like you at all?
That sounds 100% like me.
100%. Number one, I'm...
I'm a phys ed teacher and a coach, so I'm constantly encouraging my students and motivating them.
I'm always happy.
Like anyone who sees me, they're like, you're always so happy and so energetic.
So that definitely fits me.
Yeah, just a silver lining with everything, isn't there?
Yeah. Thank you very much.
Wonderful ideas.
My pleasure.
I appreciate you being here.
You can find out more about your color personality.
You can take the online quiz at DrOz.com.
Check out Dr. Mitch Berger's book, What Color Is Your Personality?
I'll be right back.
Woo! Thank you, guys.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Next, television icon Larry King.
His controversial plan to live forever.
Freeze your body as you die.
If they cure whatever I died of, I come back.
I want to be around.
Who's going to win the World Series?
Coming up.
All new Oz.
Meet a woman who spent most of her life trapped in a man's body.
It started when I was around four.
Something was wrong.
Understanding transgender.
All new Oz.
That's coming up tomorrow.
Larry King is a television icon, a true survivor.
He had a major heart attack, quintuple bypass surgery.
Neither stopped him from becoming one of the great interviewers of our time.
At age 81, he's still going strong and has what most will consider a controversial plan to try and live forever.
Please welcome my friend Larry King.
I like the look here.
You like this look like this?
That was always the look.
I would always be in the hospital late at night, trying to finish my last case around, and I'd watch you every evening.
It was a very formative experience for me, and you had the suspenders on all the time.
I've never worn suspenders on the show before, but they actually have a health benefit, I've learned, in terms of getting your posture fixed.
Is that true?
You're kidding.
No, I'm serious.
I looked it up.
Is there any reasonable person who would wear suspenders in this day and age?
And the argument is, if you want to remind yourself about a good posture, do what Larry King does.
I never thought of it.
I do it just because I lost a lot of weight after my open-heart surgery, and it was suggested that I would look good with braces.
I used to wear...
You look very good.
There's one clue I could give you, though.
Please, please help me.
Don't wear a belt when you wear braces.
Yeah, well, this is a bad idea.
I don't know what I was thinking.
Yeah, much better now.
It's a double belt.
Gone. Here, duck.
The prize.
All right, let's get right to it.
We've been talking a little bit about this idea you have of living forever.
I'm going to define it for everybody, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
When I say living forever, this is not sci-fi anymore.
Now there's the ability to do cryopreservation, to freeze your body as you die.
So what is your hope?
I was raised Jewish, but I lost my religion a long time ago, so I'm an agnostic atheist.
I don't think you're going anywhere, all right?
So I think when you die, that's it.
And I don't want it to be it.
I want to be around.
So I figure the only chance I have is to be frozen, and then if they cure whatever I decide of, I come back.
What's the thought?
Is it a better thought than being in the ground?
Or being cremated?
Would you like to be educated a bit about what exactly happens when they freeze you?
Yeah, I would like to know exactly what happens.
Y'all want to know that a little bit?
Come on over.
The reason I had a belt on was my mic pack.
Oh, that's alright.
It looks okay.
Come over to this side.
It's a better view for you.
How do you know about everything?
I study.
I study.
So hold your suspenders here.
Hold yourself up just in case.
So this is what happens.
Okay. So they just said you're gone.
They throw you in ice as fast as they can.
The cryopreservation starts immediately.
They start pumping on your chest with this machine to circulate the blood.
Then they can put a breathing bag to give oxygen to you at the same time.
So now they're basically doing what they would do if you were still alive.
The reason they do this is as everything's circulating through, they now have time to put a needle in your arm and give you a medical-grade antifreeze.
This cold solution is then pumped not just to your arm but into your chest.
Very low temperature until you ultimately get to a really, really cold place where there's no metabolism happening.
The cells that are there are still alive and they're kept that way.
Then they put you in this big casket.
It's a freezer, basically.
They flip you upside down.
They freeze your body.
And they put you with three of your best friends.
Because you're going to be stored in these containers for some time, and then ultimately, as you say, if there's a reason to unfreeze you, we figure out how to unfreeze you, then you're unfrozen, together with your three colleagues there.
What about the story where they cut your head off?
So, you can also just freeze your head.
That's cheaper, by the way, if you're interested.
Yeah. They cut your head off, and then they can put that fluid right into your head.
Although, I've got to say, I'd preserve the whole body.
If you're going to do it, do it right.
I'll do it right.
I'd preserve the whole body.
But then, how do they know in...
In that tunnel there, that guy died of this.
Well, they're going to have all the records.
You've got to keep the record.
But as a physician, the part that's intriguing is keeping enough of your cells alive that one day they could make a bionic version of you.
That's sort of the hope, right?
That's why they preserve just the head.
They figure they'll get a different body.
That body's done.
They'll put a different head on a machine and you'll have awareness.
Now, my wife, whose picture you have up, I see there, she said to me, You come back in 200 years, you won't know anybody.
So I said, I'll make new friends.
Well, actually, what is the first thing that you would do, the very first thing you would do, if they would all of a sudden unfreeze you and you had awareness that you were back in life 200 years from now?
Oh, I'd be asking questions.
Who's around?
Artie, can you transport, can you go to the moon?
What was science fiction 40 years ago is fact.
For example, I had bypass surgery.
There was a book in 1947 in which a doctor put a person on a heart-lung machine.
It was science fiction.
It was.
They did bypass and they wrote about this and people said it was nuts.
Yep. Wasn't done for 10 more years.
We never thought it was possible.
In fact, doctors would get fired if they exposed the heart because no one had ever survived.
Even seeing the heart was a lethal injury.
But your heart was seen.
It was seen when they did the bypass surgery you discussed.
You went from being a fairly sickly person in 1987, right, when you had the operation, smoking and the like.
So here you are, all these years later, healthier than you've ever been.
How'd you do that?
How'd you make that change?
Well, I got...
First, I stopped smoking immediately.
I thought I'd never stop smoking.
I was a three-pack-a-day smoker.
A doctor told me, a psychiatrist, a friend of mine, said what I became was scared straight.
That I still wanted a cigarette, but that emergency room brought me back.
I never smoked again.
Well, kudos to you, because a lot of folks don't hear that much.
This show...
And it's very core.
It's about getting people to realize they control their destiny.
I watch you all the time.
I'm amazed at you.
I never saw a guy.
You know about everything.
The man knows everything.
Well, talk about an inquisitive person.
You're a curious fellow.
You're always moving around, keeping active.
In fact, in your own neighborhood...
You know, he's walking and going around in L.A., and you got caught by paparazzi recently.
If you could tell the story.
I would never have considered this possibility, but Larry King pow-wowing with Justin Bieber.
What is going on here?
Look at this picture.
Look at this.
He's assaulting you.
He's like a drive-by.
He's like a fan.
First of all, cars are honking.
Other people are yelling.
People are screaming, Justin Bieber, Larry King.
I don't know what's going on.
It was wild.
I love it.
It was crazy.
Your kids must be.
Larry's got beautiful wife, as you mentioned already, Sean, and two wonderful children.
They must be the big fans, I gather.
They keep you young.
And having a young wife keeps you young.
But you know what I do?
No, this is the truth.
You saw the picture.
You see that picture of her?
When you have someone who looks like that, and I look like I look, and there's obviously an age difference, right?
I mean, come on.
So I know what people are thinking when they see us.
So I always say the same thing.
If she dies, she dies.
Larry King!
He'll be here all week.
Be sure to check out Larry's show.
He's got Larry King Now and Palatiki and Aura TV.
Wonderful programs.
We'll be right back.
Love that show.
Thank you very much for coming.
Next, are you stressed and have no energy?
Learn how you can heal yourself with an ancient Chinese remedy.
With simple body movements and breathing, you can use your body's natural energy to promote healing and help prevent disease.
Three moves to have you feeling great.
Whoever said a doctor's visit isn't fun has obviously never been to the Dr. Oz Show.
Is that right?
Make your appointment today.
Go to drons.com/tickets and sign up for free tickets.
All right.
Let's experiment with the audience.
I want you, anyone who is stressed, stand up right now.
Oh, yes.
We've got a lot of hallelujahs here.
Stand up if you have no energy, stand up.
Got a couple stragglers here.
Okay, if you're having any pain in your life, stand up.
We got just about everybody here.
Actually, we did literally get everybody.
Alright, I just gave you three good reasons to try Qigong.
So go ahead and sit down, get comfortable.
Nothing bad's happening to you.
Kung Fu Master and Qigong expert Carl Romain is here.
He's going to show us how these ancient Chinese remedies really work.
How are you?
So explain to everybody what Qigong is.
Why should they be excited about it if they stood just now?
Qigong is a practice that has been used in Chinese medicine for centuries.
It includes breath, movement, and mental imagery to move the body's energy to prevent disease.
Okay, so we've got six audience members to help us out today.
And we're going to get to all these different causes.
Welcome, everybody.
I hope you're nervous.
I am.
We're going to do...
A bunch of Qigong moves are going to work for some of the most common ailments we have in America.
The first reason to try Qigong is stress relief.
And the first move is called cooling the fire of the heart.
How does this help to reduce stress?
Well, it calms the mind and soothes the heart.
The heart in Chinese medicine is connected to the mind.
So this is great for stress reduction.
All right.
You going to show us?
Yeah, absolutely.
Work along with us.
So what we're going to do is we're going to start with our feet shoulder width apart, knees slightly bent.
Okay? Back is nice and straight.
Good. Posture is very important.
We're going to breathe deep diaphragmic breaths.
We're going to bring our hands out to the side.
You want your palms up.
I'm just going to slide over a little bit.
Raise your hands overhead.
Take a deep breath in.
Exhale and slowly let those hands fall.
Good. Now it's really important to keep the tongue and the roof of the mouth and teeth together and breathe through the nose.
Here we go.
Inhale. And exhale.
You can feel how relaxing that is.
That's nice, isn't it?
You just keep your tongues up to the roof of your mouth.
They weren't able to talk that way.
All right, next, we're going to boost your energy with Qigong.
And this is a move called bouncing the ball.
How do you bounce the ball to boost your energy?
All right, so here's what we're going to do.
Again, starting from the same starting position.
Very simple.
We're going to slide our foot in.
As we slide our foot in, we're going to raise the opposite hand.
That's it.
And then bring your foot down and slide to the other side.
Excellent. Move from side to side.
Deep breath in.
Exhale as you come up.
And you feel that nice, gentle, rocking movement?
Yep. Very soothing, isn't it?
Your hands are parallel like that?
Yes, you want them parallel to the ground, and you want your standing legs slightly bent.
Anyone falling back there?
No fallers.
It's actually, once you get into the rhythm, it's a little sleeker than you think.
Yeah. All right, last thing you guys were all talking about was pain.
So if you want to reduce pain, there's a move in Qigong called casting qi from side to side.
So how does this cleanse the body and reduce pain, at least in the Chinese mindset?
When there's pain and inflammation in the body, that's because there's a buildup of toxins.
This exercise works on the liver.
And the liver's job is to clear, purify, and remove those toxins to ease the pain.
Okay. Okay, so this is real simple and fun, too.
All right, so pretend we're splashing water on each other.
Guy's a world champion martial artist, by the way.
So when he says it's going to be fun, I get nervous.
Anyway, keep our knees bent.
Okay, back nice and straight again.
And I want you to pretend you had a bucket of water in your hand.
And I want you to just kind of lean over to the side.
And as you do it, keep your feet flat and just kind of exhale and let it go.
And then inhale back to center and let it go to the other side.
And it's so gentle, anybody can do it.
You can do it anywhere at any time and start reaping the benefits of it.
You can get all of Carl's wonderful moves that are on DrOz.com.
Just look under Qigong, you'll find it.
We'll be right back.
Thank you, Tom.
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Now it's time for In Case You Missed It.
I've got a special treat at the end that you're not going to want to miss.
But first, incredible news today.
Talk show legend Larry King has a plan to cryopreserve.
That means freeze his body.
As he dies, or after he dies, right afterwards.
Ever wonder how this works?
Well, I showed it to him, I'm going to show it to you.
It's not science fiction.
Crowd preservation starts the moment that you pass away.
They immerse you in ice to try to preserve the cells.
And this Bice bath is augmented by pumping into your body medical-grade antifreeze.
Your blood's removed, sanded and freezed, allows the body to be preserved, keeps the cells alive.
The body's then put in a sack, in a box, and that is basically put into a freezer, really, really cold freezer with three close friends now because you can be there for a while.
But here's the catch, my friends.
Science has not actually figured out how to unfreeze people yet.
You know, we know how to freeze them, we just can't unfreeze them.
So if one day this comes in handy, you know, be quite a bit of time in the future.
But you never know, Larry King made pretty good arguments about how
Alright, I want to welcome a very special guest on the show today.
Her name is Marnie.
Marnie the dog.
She's what's called Insta-famous.
She's wiggled her way into the hearts of over one million people on Instagram and Twitter and it's easy to see why.
Come on out, Marnie the dog.
Come on, come on.
What I love about Marty at the first glance, she doesn't look so perfect, does she?
She's sort of whining.
She actually has an illness that makes her head cock and that causes her tongue to hang out.
I think that makes her really cute because there's actually nothing wrong with her.
She's so cute.
Look at this.
Look at this!
Come on!
How are you?
Hi, nice to meet you.
She also adopted Marty knowing that she was a senior dog.
I did, yeah.
You don't do a lot of that in America.
Well, They're so grateful.
Hold her?
Yeah, absolutely.
Here, you can just hold her like a baby.
She likes to be held that way.
I love this!
This is the cutest.
Can you see this?
Look at this.
Oh, come on.
She's got a central casting for cute.
Yeah, so they say that senior dogs have the hardest time getting adopted from shelters.
There's millions of dogs that get killed every year.
To me, I never even considered buying a dog when there's so many that need homes.
Well, I'm very proud of you for finding Marnie.
I'm sure she's loving her life with you.
Marnie! See how cute she is.
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