Owen Shroyer Live - Allegation Against Thomas Massive Come Out After He Demands AIPAC Register As Foreign Agent
Aired: 2026-05-14
Duration: 03:12:36


=== Open Phone Lines on AI (04:43) ===

[00:01:12]  Ladies and gentlemen, a little tardy today.
[00:01:15]  That's all right.
[00:01:16]  You'll forgive me, won't you?
[00:01:18]  Won't you guys forgive me today?
[00:01:20]  We got a bit of a light news desk, extremely light, actually.
[00:01:25]  I got a couple of video clips that I want to get to.
[00:01:28]  We got a couple of news stories.
[00:01:30]  It's very open format today.
[00:01:33]  I'm probably going to be opening the phone line since I didn't yesterday, but we are going to be joined by Thomas Massey in the third hour.
[00:01:43]  And then, once Thomas Massey, Representative Massey departs, we're going to be joined by Natalie Morris from Redacted, who actually broke some news on her show earlier today.
[00:01:58]  And this all ties into the theme of the show.
[00:02:01]  It's amazing that we are watching this hit piece against Thomas Massey, the exact same formula that they tried to use against Trump.
[00:02:16]  And MAGA didn't buy it, didn't fall for it, if you will.
[00:02:22]  They rejected it and they called it out for what it is a political hit piece.
[00:02:29]  But now you see the exact same thing happening to Thomas Massey right before an election, and all of MAGA falls for it and promotes it and joins in on the political hit piece and the propaganda.
[00:02:42]  And I feel like that is truly the state of MAGA today, or whatever is left of it, which is dwindling.
[00:02:49]  Ladies and gentlemen, it's dwindling.
[00:02:52]  And I can talk more about that today, and perhaps I will.
[00:02:54]  So, oh, Thomas Massey releases the Epstein list.
[00:02:59]  Thomas Massey wants AIPAC to register as a foreign agent right before the election.
[00:03:05]  And then, bing, oh, look, the allegations.
[00:03:09]  Oh, yes, it's all organic, it's all natural, totally, totally normal, guys.
[00:03:15]  And then the entire political commentary world is just completely insane these days.
[00:03:19]  So, I'll get into some of that.
[00:03:22]  But Thomas Massey coming up, Natalie Morris coming up.
[00:03:25]  I do want to talk about the AI issue, the data center issue, because what you have, and I think I'll get into this right at the start of the show and maybe just open up phone lines on this issue.
[00:03:38]  What you have right now is more disenfranchised Americans politically, probably than ever.
[00:03:48]  Nobody really identifies with the Democrats, nobody really identifies with the Republicans.
[00:03:55]  You know, the liberals, the Democrats, they're kind of just figuring out what they want to do heading into the midterms.
[00:04:00]  So they're kind of testing okay, what are the pressure points that we can run on and win?
[00:04:06]  And they're seeing it.
[00:04:07]  They're seeing, okay, it's against the war, it's against Israel, it's against AIPAC.
[00:04:12]  And they had the stress test with AOC and Bernie Sanders on the AI data centers.
[00:04:19]  Well, now they're taking that to the next level.
[00:04:23]  And then, of course, you have the economy, which you know, the Democrats are going to run on that.
[00:04:27]  While the Republicans are saying how great the economy is, which most Americans are going to say, why are you lying to me?
[00:04:34]  Why are you gaslighting me?
[00:04:37]  The Democrats will fill that void too.
[00:04:38]  So it's not good.
[00:04:39]  But this isn't even about the Democrats.
[00:04:42]  This is about the fact that the vast majority of Americans right now feel there is no representation.
[00:04:52]  They don't feel represented by anybody politically, they don't feel represented by anybody in the government.
[00:05:00]  And the one guy that maybe people still feel like represents them, Thomas Massey, they're all coming after him.
[00:05:09]  The swamp.
[00:05:10]  It's what we call that.
[00:05:12]  Corrupt politics is what we call that.
[00:05:16]  So we'll be addressing that.
[00:05:17]  We'll be joined by Thomas Massey.
[00:05:19]  We'll be joined by Natalie Morris.
[00:05:21]  I do have some videos on these subjects that we're going to play today.
[00:05:26]  But we're really, we got an open format.
[00:05:28]  We're going to open up the phone lines pretty early today.
[00:05:30]  I haven't talked to the audience on the phone lines in quite some time.
[00:05:34]  So we will be doing that today.
[00:05:39]  So we're going to be really addressing this issue, though, of.
[00:05:47]  Nobody feeling represented by the current political situation.
[00:05:51]  And I'll weigh into that a little bit more coming up here shortly.

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=== Political Disenfranchisement Crisis (15:28) ===

[00:08:30]  All right, guys, let's address something that a lot of people are kind of feeling.
[00:08:59]  They're seeing it.
[00:09:00]  Maybe they're experiencing it.
[00:09:03]  But I don't really hear too many people really vocalizing it, bringing it to their political transmissions, to the political discourse.
[00:09:14]  You hear, you know, you kind of hear them talk about it, though.
[00:09:19]  People are sick of politics, they're disenfranchised, they don't feel represented by anybody.
[00:09:26]  I think the biggest blow has to be the fact that Trump was supposed to be different.
[00:09:30]  Things were supposed to be different with Trump, and they're just simply not.
[00:09:33]  A lot of people think it's worse than ever.
[00:09:39]  And, you know, I know I've talked about this before, but it just continues to re emphasize itself whenever I'm out in public or talking to friends and family.
[00:09:50]  You know, I'm out socializing today.
[00:09:54]  I'm telling you guys.
[00:09:57]  The average American is so politically disenfranchised.
[00:10:04]  They're so politically burnt out.
[00:10:06]  They don't trust anybody.
[00:10:07]  They don't trust anybody in politics.
[00:10:09]  They don't trust anybody in the media.
[00:10:11]  They feel sold out no matter who gets elected.
[00:10:14]  They look at the whole system as totally corrupt.
[00:10:18]  And funny enough, you know, Massey is one of the few in Congress that they don't look at.
[00:10:27]  That way.
[00:10:28]  Massey is one of the few members of Congress that doesn't have that stench, that doesn't have that swamp aura to him.
[00:10:36]  And so here we are, and we're watching the swamp, and we're watching the corrupt political system try to get Thomas Massey out.
[00:10:43]  And isn't this the story?
[00:10:48]  This is exactly what they did to Elon Musk and Doge.
[00:10:52]  This is exactly what they tried to do in the political media.
[00:10:58]  Now, it's harder to gatekeep the political media now because of social media.
[00:11:04]  It's harder to gatekeep who gets to talk about politics and who gets to have a platform, gain an audience, gain a following.
[00:11:14]  It used to be they could really gatekeep that and make sure that anybody that was anti establishment right, that's mostly who they target.
[00:11:22]  Anybody anti establishment on the right wing, they don't want you anywhere near the political discourse.
[00:11:28]  And we all see now why.
[00:11:30]  We all see now why.
[00:11:32]  And I was addressing this yesterday, and it's never been more clear.
[00:11:36]  There is no American right.
[00:11:38]  There is no conservative movement.
[00:11:40]  There is no America First movement in D.C.
[00:11:43]  It just doesn't exist.
[00:11:45]  What you have is the donor class and the foreign and special interests and the lobbyists.
[00:11:50]  That's who runs the Republican Party.
[00:11:52]  And if you're not willing to work for them, then they will do everything they possibly can to get you out.
[00:12:00]  And this is what they used to do to Trump.
[00:12:03]  But now Trump is one of them.
[00:12:04]  Now Trump works for them.
[00:12:06]  So you see that the attacks on Trump don't happen like they used to.
[00:12:09]  That's kind of your big sign.
[00:12:12]  But now they're coming after Massey.
[00:12:15]  Now they're coming after Massey.
[00:12:18]  And when we do take calls, maybe that's the topic today.
[00:12:28]  But it doesn't matter where I go, it doesn't matter politically on the left, politically on the right.
[00:12:35]  Really politically informed, politically uninformed.
[00:12:38]  Everybody looks at DC.
[00:12:41]  Everybody looks at American politics and just says it is totally corrupt.
[00:12:45]  It is corrupt to its core.
[00:12:47]  There is nobody that represents us.
[00:12:49]  There's no hope in any of these politicians.
[00:12:52]  That's how the average American feels.
[00:12:55]  And then they don't really have the capacity to get involved in such a way because everybody's just trying to pay their bills.
[00:13:03]  Everybody is just trying to find a way to get by, pay their bills, keep their head above water.
[00:13:09]  And that becomes a difficult thing in and of itself to do that you really don't have time to keep up with the politics.
[00:13:19]  And that's why I do this show.
[00:13:21]  That's why I do this show so that I can do all of that work and then do a three hour presentation.
[00:13:26]  And hopefully, you leave every day feeling a little bit more informed than you came in.
[00:13:33]  But that's the sentiment.
[00:13:35]  And I think it's weird.
[00:13:36]  It's very weird what MAGA has become.
[00:13:42]  It's nothing more than just a cheerleading cult at this point, there's no anti establishment left in MAGA.
[00:13:51]  There's no energy to drain the swamp.
[00:13:53]  There's no energy for political arrests, going after the people that committed treason.
[00:13:58]  There's no energy for that.
[00:14:00]  All of the MAGA energy is now directed at the actual anti establishment right.
[00:14:06]  All of the MAGA attention, notice they don't attack the deep state anymore.
[00:14:11]  MAGA's not going after the swamp creatures.
[00:14:13]  MAGA's not talking about political reform.
[00:14:16]  MAGA's not talking about justice for January 6ers, justice for the stolen election.
[00:14:22]  They're not even talking about justice for the crimes that were committed against Trump when he first ran for president.
[00:14:29]  No, MAGA has now been co opted and redirected and aimed at the anti establishment right.
[00:14:35]  MAGA has now been co opted and is now a swamp operation going after actual conservatives in the right wing.
[00:14:46]  And it's never been more obvious.
[00:14:47]  The mass erase, this is the Rosetta Stone that explains it all.
[00:14:57]  And they can't even be honest.
[00:14:59]  You know, that's the other thing about MAGA now, too.
[00:15:01]  They're not even honest people.
[00:15:03]  And they do this attack on Massey and they say, oh, look.
[00:15:08]  And this is what, see, and that's what's amazing.
[00:15:10]  MAGA understands when the left does this and they call the left out for it.
[00:15:15]  They say, Massey didn't vote for this bill that would have built the wall.
[00:15:21]  No, Massey, as a principled conservative, Does not vote for bills that have pork in them.
[00:15:30]  That's what it is.
[00:15:31]  And it's like MAGA used to understand this.
[00:15:33]  MAGA used to understand that they would write a bill in Congress and they'd say, This is a bill to fund veterans.
[00:15:43]  This is a bill to fund the military.
[00:15:46]  And then they put all this other pork in there, all this other foreign aid, all this other leftist garbage, all this garbage research studies, and all the other crap that they do.
[00:15:56]  And they shove that into these bills.
[00:15:59]  And then you're a principled conservative or principled small government with your vote, and you say, Well, I support funding for a wall, or I support funding the veterans, I support funding the military, but I'm not going to vote for this.
[00:16:12]  Look at all the pork that's in this bill.
[00:16:14]  MAGA used to understand that.
[00:16:16]  MAGA used to understand that's how they lie.
[00:16:19]  Now, this is what MAGA does, and this is what they're doing to Thomas Massey.
[00:16:24]  So we're all kind of sitting here watching this happen in real time.
[00:16:29]  And I'm just sitting here asking, you know, where does MAGA think that this is all going?
[00:16:37]  And they don't have an answer.
[00:16:39]  All they say is, you need to trust Trump.
[00:16:42]  So that's where you're at now.
[00:16:43]  All you do is trust a politician.
[00:16:46]  So that's where you're at.
[00:16:48]  I can't relate to that.
[00:16:50]  I'm stunned that anybody can relate to that.
[00:16:56]  And that's why this Massey race is so important.
[00:16:58]  And I reiterate this today.
[00:17:03]  If Thomas Massey loses this race, there is no Republican Party.
[00:17:08]  If Thomas Massey gets ousted by the donor class, if Thomas Massey gets ousted by the foreign lobbyists, there is no Republican Party.
[00:17:18]  There is no right wing movement.
[00:17:20]  And there is no conservative movement in American politics.
[00:17:24]  And that is just a fact.
[00:17:25]  All you have is the donor class that runs the Republican Party, and they gatekeep anybody out of Republican Party politics if they will not play ball with the foreign lobby.
[00:17:35]  Everybody's watching it, everybody's witnessing it.
[00:17:38]  There's no denying it.
[00:17:41]  And so they come out here and they play this game with you.
[00:17:44]  And they say, Oh, would you rather have Democrats win?
[00:17:51]  You don't want Democrats to win.
[00:17:52]  Look at how bad they are.
[00:17:56]  Oh, you're a liberal now.
[00:17:57]  All of this garbage.
[00:17:58]  We've all seen all these ridiculous attacks.
[00:18:03]  And then the thinking person, the person that can think independently, the person that can think logically, the person that can reach their own conclusions that's not brainwashed says, Well, I don't want to vote for Democrats.
[00:18:18]  I certainly don't support Democrat policies.
[00:18:22]  I certainly understand how bad and corrupt Democrats are.
[00:18:26]  Not giving an inch on that.
[00:18:29]  But what am I doing if the Republican Party is just co opted by the donor class?
[00:18:34]  What am I doing if the Republican Party is just co opted by the foreign lobbyists?
[00:18:39]  Well, then where are my options?
[00:18:43]  Well, at least they're not Democrats.
[00:18:45]  Well, they're not Americans.
[00:18:48]  They're literally not even Americans.
[00:18:51]  The Republican Party is run by foreign and special interests.
[00:18:58]  And so you sit here.
[00:18:59]  This is the real conundrum.
[00:19:02]  This is the honest conundrum that we're dealing with.
[00:19:08]  I can sit here and ask, what do I do?
[00:19:13]  I'm an anti establishment person.
[00:19:16]  Policy wise, I'm probably on the right.
[00:19:18]  Conservative, small government.
[00:19:20]  These are the principles I like.
[00:19:21]  More than anything, I just want to get rid of the corruption in government.
[00:19:24]  It comes from both sides.
[00:19:26]  There's very few people that represent somebody like me in Washington, D.C.
[00:19:30]  And Thomas Massey is one of them, and we see what they're trying to do.
[00:19:33]  And so we have to reach a logical conclusion.
[00:19:37]  I can either support the Republican establishment that's going to stab me in the back and steal my money and give it to foreign issues and foreign causes and foreign interests and special interests and work for the donor class.
[00:19:52]  Or I can look at the Democrats and I can say, okay, well, the Democrats are going to steal my money too.
[00:20:02]  But at least maybe, at least maybe with the Democrats, it's like they're going to steal my money, but maybe I can at least have some influence over where they're going to spend it.
[00:20:15]  It's like I'm no socialist.
[00:20:18]  I'm no communist.
[00:20:20]  I'm no Democrat.
[00:20:21]  But let's just be honest about the options on the table here.
[00:20:25]  Let's just be honest with ourselves about what's happening in American politics.
[00:20:31]  I know what the Republicans are going to do, they're going to steal my money.
[00:20:34]  And they're going to give it to foreign and special interests.
[00:20:37]  That's what the Republicans are going to do.
[00:20:40]  I know what the Democrats are going to do.
[00:20:42]  They're going to steal my money and give it to a bunch of socialist, liberal, communist causes.
[00:20:47]  So I'm just sitting here weighing the options.
[00:20:50]  We don't have any influence on the right.
[00:20:54]  You're just a slave.
[00:20:55]  You're more of a slave if you vote Republican now than if you vote Democrat.
[00:21:00]  Now, you might be a bigger idiot if you vote Democrat, but I don't know.
[00:21:02]  Take your pick.
[00:21:03]  Do you want to be an idiot or do you want to be a slave?
[00:21:06]  So we know what we're getting from the Republicans.
[00:21:08]  They're going to steal our money and they're going to give it to the donor class.
[00:21:12]  The Democrats are going to steal our money and they're going to steal a little bit and put it in their pockets, but they might actually invest in America.
[00:21:18]  Maybe.
[00:21:20]  There's no good options.
[00:21:22]  So I can be a slave and vote for the Republicans that work for the donor class and the foreign interests, or I can be an idiot that votes for the Democrats that are going to steal my money, pocket some of it, and throw it at all these different stupid issues, and nothing is going to change.
[00:21:34]  And that's where you're at.
[00:21:37]  That's where you're at.
[00:21:39]  So.
[00:21:42]  The problem that MAGA is going to have in the coming days, they're going to be so confused over why their message is not resonating.
[00:21:53]  They're so confused over why you won't just cover your eyes, cover your nose, cover your ears, and just vote Republican.
[00:22:04]  And other people are sitting here saying, well, what's the point?
[00:22:08]  Why?
[00:22:09]  Why should I vote Republican?
[00:22:10]  Well, because they're not Democrats.
[00:22:11]  Sorry, that's not really helping.
[00:22:15]  It's not really helping your cause, the whole they're not Democrats thing, because we just went through that and we just gave the Republicans all the power.
[00:22:27]  And almost none of the mandates that we put on their table are happening.
[00:22:36]  There is no drain the swamp.
[00:22:37]  There's no Doge.
[00:22:39]  There's no Epstein file clients' arrests.
[00:22:43]  It's just simply not happening.
[00:22:46]  There's new wars.
[00:22:47]  There's more wars.
[00:22:48]  There's more war than ever.
[00:22:51]  They're not ending wars.
[00:22:51]  They're starting wars.
[00:22:52]  It's all a big gaslighting campaign.
[00:22:56]  And these brainwashed MAGA people are just looking at you and they're saying, well, why won't you be a part of the team?
[00:23:02]  And we're saying, because it's not our team.
[00:23:04]  You just haven't figured it out yet.
[00:23:08]  You think it's your team, it's not your team.
[00:23:13]  You're the useful idiot of the right wing now.
[00:23:17]  So, why do I talk about this?
[00:23:21]  Well, clearly, clearly there's a bubble.
[00:23:25]  Clearly, there is a political bubble.
[00:23:29]  And I don't know.
[00:23:32]  You can't, you know, however many people are, you know, left in the vocal MAGA community here.
[00:23:39]  But I still struggle to believe that they have any semblance of a social life.
[00:23:47]  Because everywhere I go socially, This is how people feel.
[00:23:55]  Everywhere I go socially, this is how people feel.

=== The Political Bubble Explodes (06:58) ===

[00:23:58]  They feel totally disenfranchised.
[00:24:00]  They feel Trump has betrayed them.
[00:24:01]  They feel MAGA has become brainwashed.
[00:24:04]  And they have just lost faith, lost hope, totally disenfranchised with the entire political system.
[00:24:10]  And that's why I'm sitting here saying it's like, I don't care anymore.
[00:24:15]  Oh, look, this artist did a concert and said F Trump.
[00:24:20]  I don't care.
[00:24:21]  Like, it means nothing to me.
[00:24:23]  We just bombed a school and killed 200 kids.
[00:24:28]  You think I give an F?
[00:24:30]  You think I give a rat's ass about some stupid celebrity saying F Trump?
[00:24:35]  We just bombed a school.
[00:24:38]  We're spending $60 billion on another war for the foreign donors.
[00:24:44]  You think I'm going to sit here and be guilt tripped?
[00:24:48]  Like, oh, but look at the liberals, look at the Democrats.
[00:24:50]  The Republicans are just as bad.
[00:24:53]  You just haven't figured it out yet.
[00:24:56]  There is no winning.
[00:24:58]  And they're sitting here lying to your face, and you're nodding your head, and they're laughing at you.
[00:25:04]  You're a stooge to them.
[00:25:10]  And this is why it's like, how do I get this message across?
[00:25:19]  Because at the end of the day, you need to know that you're not alone.
[00:25:26]  At the end of the day, they are trying to emotionally defeat you, spiritually defeat you.
[00:25:35]  They want you to feel like you're on an island, they want you to feel like you're alone in this stuff, and you're not.
[00:25:42]  No, this is how the vast majority of America feels.
[00:25:45]  The Democrats suck.
[00:25:47]  The Republicans suck.
[00:25:48]  The entire mandate that was supposed to be with MAGA has been thrown out the window.
[00:25:55]  And hey, we're all sick of it, but let's say it for what it is.
[00:25:58]  Everybody's sick and damn tired of Israel.
[00:26:02]  Good luck.
[00:26:02]  Go anywhere.
[00:26:04]  Go anywhere with just average Americans, bring up foreign policy, and every single person will talk about how sick and damn tired they are of Israel.
[00:26:13]  And I'm being polite.
[00:26:14]  Most people look at Israel as just a demon state.
[00:26:17]  Most people look at the government of Israel as just bloodthirsty, warmongering murderers.
[00:26:23]  If you want me to be more direct about how people feel about Israel, that's how people actually feel about Israel.
[00:26:29]  But if you want to kind of calm it down a little bit, people are just sick of it.
[00:26:32]  They're just sick of it.
[00:26:37]  You are not alone.
[00:26:39]  This is how the vast majority of Americans feel.
[00:26:46]  So we're kind of sputtering.
[00:26:50]  There's no representation on the right.
[00:26:53]  There's no representation on the left.
[00:26:56]  And now the actual issues that are popular, the Republicans are just giving them to the Democrats.
[00:27:04]  The Republicans, you watch.
[00:27:06]  What's going to happen in the coming months when we get through the primary season?
[00:27:12]  What's going to happen is that the Republicans are going to double down on the foreign policy.
[00:27:18]  And they're going to bully you and they're going to browbeat you and tell you you have to support Israel or you don't support America.
[00:27:24]  We're already seeing this.
[00:27:26]  But they're going to double down ahead of the midterms.
[00:27:28]  This is not going to be popular.
[00:27:31]  And this is going to turn off most Americans.
[00:27:33]  They're not going to want to support Republicans.
[00:27:36]  The Republicans are going to double down and they're going to tell you the economy is great.
[00:27:40]  They're going to tell you you have to vote for Republicans because the economy is doing so good.
[00:27:44]  Well, it's not.
[00:27:45]  That's just a lie.
[00:27:46]  So now you're lying to people.
[00:27:48]  So now you're supporting a state, you're supporting Israel that the average American looks at as a genocidal state.
[00:27:55]  Now the Republican Party is telling you the economy is good.
[00:27:57]  So now you're just lying to people because it's not true.
[00:28:02]  So neither of these things are popular.
[00:28:05]  And then, and this is where the Democrats are going to really start to lay down some tracks soon.
[00:28:11]  And I've got a clip from a debate with Kevin O'Leary and Tucker Carlson coming up.
[00:28:15]  And then the Republicans are going to tell you we got to have these data centers.
[00:28:20]  We got to have the AI.
[00:28:21]  We have to turn America into the AI data center hub.
[00:28:24]  Also, not popular.
[00:28:29]  And this is an issue that there is some awareness that, hey, we don't want to live in a surveillance state and we don't want to have all these AI data centers because it's going to hurt our energy grid and it's going to consume all of this energy and it's going to cause our costs to go up, which are already too high.
[00:28:52]  Most people can't afford gas prices going up, still, people can't afford them.
[00:29:00]  And they're just going to say, hey, well, maybe you're right about all of that, but you need to vote because at least we're not Democrats.
[00:29:10]  And then what are the Democrats going to do?
[00:29:13]  The Democrats are going to run against Israel.
[00:29:15]  They're going to run against this war.
[00:29:17]  They're going to run against the foreign policy.
[00:29:20]  The Democrats are going to be honest about the state of the economy, that it's not good.
[00:29:27]  And the Democrats are now making moves.
[00:29:30]  To posture themselves politically against the AI data centers.
[00:29:36]  And these are the issues that are going to win or lose the midterms.
[00:29:42]  And the truth is that the lobbyists, the donor class, the foreign and special interest, at the end of the day, they don't really care who wins.
[00:29:51]  They don't really care if it's a Democrat.
[00:29:52]  They don't really care if it's a Republican because no matter who it is, they still buy them, they still own them, they still get what they want.
[00:30:01]  And everybody is starting to figure this out.
[00:30:05]  Everybody is starting to realize that this is the case.
[00:30:12]  And if you think just running in the midterms and saying, hey, you know, we got to keep Republicans in office, or hey, well, at least they're not Democrats, that's not going to work.
[00:30:21]  That's not going to draw people to the voting booth to vote Republican.
[00:30:24]  It's not going to happen.
[00:30:28]  And so.
[00:30:31]  Most people listening to this, most people in my audience, myself included, I don't know if I could ever vote Democrat.
[00:30:39]  I've never voted Democrat.
[00:30:40]  I don't think I ever could vote Democrat.
[00:30:43]  I don't want to vote Democrat.
[00:30:44]  I'm not going to tell anybody to vote Democrat.
[00:30:48]  But I have a hard time finding any reason to go vote Republican either.
[00:30:52]  And just because they're not Democrats, that ain't enough for me.

=== Voting Against Democrats Today (04:28) ===

[00:30:57]  And I would even argue at this point, Somebody like me could have more influence on Democrat Party politics than on Republican Party politics.
[00:31:11]  I could probably enter into the conversation of left wing liberal progressive politics, and we can talk about how they want to spend all the money that they want to steal.
[00:31:22]  And I could probably have more influence on the left side of the aisle than I can on the right now.
[00:31:27]  Because politically speaking, if you won't support Israel, if you won't support AIPAC, if you won't support these wars in the Middle East, If you won't tell everybody it's the golden age, if you won't tell everybody that Trump's the greatest thing since sliced bread, you won't tell everybody the economy's great and all this other garbage, they don't want you.
[00:31:46]  You're not allowed at the table.
[00:31:48]  You're not allowed to speak.
[00:31:49]  You're not allowed access.
[00:31:52]  And just look at how they're attacking O'Keeffe Media Group just for having me host a show, just for having me do a stand up report.
[00:32:02]  And you know what's funny, too?
[00:32:06]  It shows how dumb these people are, honestly.
[00:32:12]  They see that O'Keeffe Media Group report and they say, Why?
[00:32:18]  Why would you send Owen to do this?
[00:32:21]  Hey, morons, go listen to the tape.
[00:32:25]  That was a woman.
[00:32:27]  Okay.
[00:32:27]  They sent women in there.
[00:32:30]  They had two different women that these guys were trying to date on a dating app, and they got the footage, not me.
[00:32:37]  Okay.
[00:32:38]  I did a stand up report for them.
[00:32:41]  That's what I did.
[00:32:44]  I didn't do the sting, I didn't go on the date.
[00:32:48]  And these MAGA people are so dumb now, they really think that it's me.
[00:32:51]  They really think I'm the one with the hidden camera, I guess, pretending to be a woman now.
[00:32:55]  I don't know.
[00:32:56]  Maybe that's believable.
[00:32:59]  No, I just did a stand up video report and then hosted the show when they debuted it.
[00:33:05]  I wasn't on the dates.
[00:33:06]  I didn't get the undercover footage.
[00:33:08]  And they're all claiming that it was me and they're all attacking James O'Keefe like he sent me in there to do it.
[00:33:16]  I mean, I guess I'm honored that you think that I could pull that off.
[00:33:19]  But no, it wasn't me.
[00:33:21]  It wasn't me.
[00:33:27]  But they can't even do that basic research, they can't even reach these general understandings of how the world works.
[00:33:34]  So they're hopeless.
[00:33:36]  And all they can do at this point is cheerlead.
[00:33:39]  All they can do at this point is run defense for a corrupt political system.
[00:33:43]  And people see it now.
[00:33:46]  People see it now.
[00:33:48]  They want nothing to do with it.
[00:33:51]  So this is the conundrum.
[00:33:57]  This is the conundrum the average American is facing.
[00:34:02]  You vote for Republicans, you vote for the foreign interests, you vote for the donor class.
[00:34:08]  You vote for Democrats, you vote to destroy your country, run your country into the ground with all of their policies.
[00:34:15]  So, where do you go?
[00:34:17]  Do you vote for the foreign interest and become a traitor to your country as a Republican?
[00:34:23]  Or do you vote for the Democrats that are just going to steal your money and collapse the country?
[00:34:28]  But maybe you can have a seat at the table to decide where they spend your money or how they spend your money, or maybe you can even influence some things over there.
[00:34:37]  But most people.
[00:34:40]  Are just going to reach the conclusion that they don't want to vote.
[00:34:45]  Most people are going to reach the conclusion that they have no interest in voting.
[00:34:49]  It doesn't do anything for them.
[00:34:52]  No matter who they vote for, it's all corrupt.
[00:34:56]  And so I don't know.
[00:34:57]  I think that that favors the Democrats.
[00:34:59]  I think that the issues all favor the Democrats right now.
[00:35:04]  And because of what a despicable, hate filled cult that MAGA has become, that Just makes it worse because now you're turning off people on the right that would normally vote Republican no matter what, but they can't vote for Republicans now because you're such a disgusting creep.
[00:35:23]  Not a good state of things.
[00:35:24]  I think we'll take some calls on this.

=== Faraday Bags and Privacy (07:35) ===

[00:35:25]  I got some clips coming up.
[00:35:29]  Thomas Massey, third hour.
[00:35:32]  Natalie Morris, third hour.
[00:35:34]  I'll also be on after the show today.
[00:35:38]  I'll be on with Clint Russell later tonight.
[00:35:41]  So, busy night.
[00:35:43]  We take our first break of the show and we'll be right back.
[00:35:48]  You're listening to the Owen Report on the Wynn Network.
[00:35:52]  Folks, you've probably heard about the toxic radio waves and everything else that comes off of your cell phone, your laptops, computers, tablets.
[00:36:03]  And you've probably heard about Faraday bags.
[00:36:06]  But you know, these Faraday bags, they're not good looking, they're not sleek, and they're not even really usable.
[00:36:13]  That's why Silent exists because they want you to have a fairy bag that you can actually use, that actually looks sleek, looks good.
[00:36:22]  And these are bags that you probably already have.
[00:36:25]  A backpack, a crossbody, a concealed carry, a dry bag.
[00:36:30]  These are things you probably already have.
[00:36:32]  Now you can get one in a Faraday bag from slnt.comslash Owen.
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[00:36:44]  Everything you carry is broadcasting a signal your phone, your laptop, your key fob, even.
[00:36:48]  Most people don't realize it, but these devices are constantly sharing location data, identifiers, wireless handshakes with networks all around you.
[00:36:55]  That signal can be tracked, collected, or intercepted.
[00:36:59]  Making you and your dad vulnerable.
[00:37:02]  That's just the reality of the world we live in now.
[00:37:05]  That's why I support you getting a Faraday bag to put that cell phone in, whether you're traveling, whether you're in your car or at night, you just don't want it going off from slnt.com slash Owen.
[00:37:17]  I don't want big tech.
[00:37:18]  I don't want the government.
[00:37:20]  I don't want anyone else knowing my every move.
[00:37:22]  I want control over when I'm connected and what I share.
[00:37:25]  When I place my phone, laptop, or key fob in a silent Faraday bag, That signal instantly stops.
[00:37:31]  No cellular, no Wi Fi, no Bluetooth, no GPS.
[00:37:34]  They're no longer spying, tracking, tracing you.
[00:37:37]  And those waves are no longer hitting your body.
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[00:42:00]  The Owen Report with Owen Schroyer.
[00:42:08]  You know, I think it's comical, but it's also sad.
[00:42:12]  It's sad because we thought that maybe there was a path to reformation under the Republican Party or a Trump presidency.
[00:42:25]  It turns out that's not the case.
[00:42:28]  But this denial, this state of denial that MAGA is in, is really a story in and of itself.
[00:42:35]  Here's an example.
[00:42:36]  I just saw this during the break.
[00:42:39]  This is from Trump Daily Posts 2.9 million followers.
[00:42:44]  This is obviously a Trump supporting ex account here, gets a lot of activity.
[00:42:50]  And it asks a poll question What is the greatest threat to freedom in America?
[00:42:54]  They have China, Russia, climate change, other.
[00:42:57]  And other is dominating here big time.

=== Israel as the Greatest Threat (06:06) ===

[00:43:01]  And you go read the comments, and it's like three of every four is, you know, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel.
[00:43:08]  And so there's this weird thing where the Republicans are just in denial that this supporting of Israel is a losing issue.
[00:43:21]  And so then the message becomes it's like, okay, supporting Israel is not popular.
[00:43:27]  Israel is the least popular it's been in American politics in modern American history.
[00:43:34]  I would say it's beyond just unpopular.
[00:43:37]  People think it's outright evil.
[00:43:39]  And anybody that supports it, they lump into that evil.
[00:43:44]  And this is just where most Americans stand.
[00:43:45]  And every poll agrees with this.
[00:43:47]  And then here comes the Republicans.
[00:43:49]  Here comes MAGA.
[00:43:50]  Here comes the Zionists.
[00:43:51]  And they say, oh, you can't be American if you don't support Israel.
[00:43:54]  You can't be conservative if you don't support Israel.
[00:43:56]  And then that just makes you feel worse.
[00:43:59]  And now the message there is no, Israel's your boss.
[00:44:04]  And then they take it a step further.
[00:44:06]  And they say the only reason America exists is because of Israel.
[00:44:10]  The only reason America's great is because of Israel, which is really where they reach their logical fallacy.
[00:44:20]  Because you'll sit here and you'll engage in these conversations, and the agreement, the basic understanding, is that American politics are corrupt.
[00:44:30]  We all agree the country is declining.
[00:44:32]  We all agree things are going the wrong direction.
[00:44:34]  It's like we all agree on this stuff.
[00:44:36]  It's like, yep, DC is corrupt.
[00:44:38]  Country's going the wrong direction.
[00:44:39]  We need major reformation.
[00:44:41]  We need to turn this thing around and we need to do that.
[00:44:45]  And then it's like, okay, here's how we're going to do it.
[00:44:47]  And then it's wait, not so fast.
[00:44:49]  Not that.
[00:44:51]  Not that.
[00:44:53]  So if we have to keep everything going the same direction it's in in order to support Israel, a foreign country, then that's just how it is and so be it.
[00:45:02]  And well, not only is that not conservatism, not only is that a losing political strategy in 2026, it's also inherently traitorous.
[00:45:13]  And anti American.
[00:45:16]  And it's odd to me that they can't see it.
[00:45:18]  They can't get it.
[00:45:21]  And you've entered a realm now.
[00:45:25]  This is the brainwashed right.
[00:45:27]  It's kind of like with the trans issue on the left.
[00:45:30]  It's like we all sat here, even people on the left, we all sat here and said, Why are you so obsessed with trans kids?
[00:45:38]  Why are you so obsessed with trans kids?
[00:45:40]  Why are you so obsessed with putting boys and girls' sports?
[00:45:44]  Why are you so obsessed with genital mutilation as a political issue?
[00:45:48]  Why is this something that you want to try to hang your hat on?
[00:45:51]  And the left did it, and then they lost everything.
[00:45:54]  Well, now Israel is that issue for America.
[00:45:58]  Israel bombing seven countries in the last year, Israel killing hundreds of thousands of people, expanding its borders, the mass killing, the false flags, the stand downs, the controlling of our government.
[00:46:10]  Israel is the right wing trans kids issue.
[00:46:13]  Not popular, losing issue, will cost them everything.
[00:46:17]  And we're just sitting here watching them sell out this entire movement.
[00:46:22]  They've sold out the America First movement, they've sold out the MAGA movement, they've sold out the conservative movement, they've sold out every The anti establishment, every movement that was moving towards government reformation, saving our country, every movement on the right has now been totally sold out and co opted by a foreign interest.
[00:46:44]  And anybody that denies this is just not living in reality.
[00:46:49]  Now, you could argue in support.
[00:46:52]  You can say, no, I think it's a good thing.
[00:46:54]  Well, that's fine.
[00:46:56]  You're on the minority as far as that belief is concerned, but that's okay.
[00:46:59]  You can still believe that.
[00:47:02]  But everybody now sees that this is the losing issue and it's going to tank the Republican Party.
[00:47:08]  It already has, quite frankly.
[00:47:11]  It already has.
[00:47:14]  So, with that, let's get into some of these stories.
[00:47:19]  I'm going a little long here.
[00:47:20]  We'll bring this up later when Thomas Massey joins us in about 30 minutes.
[00:47:28]  This was from earlier today with Natalie Morris, who will be joining us after Thomas Massey.
[00:47:33]  Thomas Massey has introduced the AIPAC Act in Congress, legislation that would require AIPAC to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
[00:47:41]  I think the last politician that tried to do that had his head blown off.
[00:47:44]  His name was John F. Kennedy Jr.
[00:47:49]  The Israeli lobby has long operated outside the scrutiny applied to other foreign influence organizations.
[00:47:56]  Under this legislation, foreign backed lobbying and online advertising campaigns promoting paid foreign messaging would be required to clearly disclose the sponsored amount.
[00:48:06]  And really, Israel is the woke right issue.
[00:48:10]  It's Black Lives Matter for conservatives, supporting Israel, fighting anti Semitism.
[00:48:14]  This is all Black Lives Matter propaganda for conservatives.
[00:48:19]  And it's amazing how right wingers will be able to identify it when it comes from the left and they'll say, oh, Black Lives Matter is just a front.
[00:48:28]  We all know it's a communist anti American movement, but they use that name because it's a front, but they hide their true intentions.
[00:48:34]  It's like they understand that, but they can't comprehend it when it comes to AIPAC.
[00:48:38]  And they say, oh, but AIPAC is Americans.
[00:48:40]  AIPAC Is for America.
[00:48:41]  No.
[00:48:43]  AIPAC only exists for one reason, and that's to serve Israel's interests.
[00:48:47]  All their big donors are all Israel firsters.
[00:48:50]  And now you see the amazing influence and power they have in Washington, D.C., specifically in this moment, total control over the Republican Party.
[00:49:00]  More control and influence over the Republican Party than Americans have, than American voters have, than American conservatives have.

=== Right Wing Propaganda Tactics (15:40) ===

[00:49:08]  And everybody can see this now, but there's this weird disconnect.
[00:49:12]  That they just can't quite put it together.
[00:49:16]  They just can't quite comprehend how that works.
[00:49:19]  Like, there's no political propaganda on the right.
[00:49:24]  There's no political propaganda.
[00:49:28]  There's no foreign influence.
[00:49:29]  There's no corruption in right wing politics.
[00:49:31]  It just doesn't exist.
[00:49:34]  Yikes.
[00:49:36]  Yikes, if you still believe that.
[00:49:40]  I'm going to say something controversial here.
[00:49:44]  And I didn't say this yesterday.
[00:49:49]  I'm hesitant to even say it today, but I'm going to say it.
[00:49:54]  I got a video here of Ed Galarian at a recent campaign event.
[00:49:59]  By the way, Ed Galarian has been dodging Thomas Massey.
[00:50:02]  Galarian will not debate.
[00:50:04]  So, right then and there, that should be disqualifying.
[00:50:06]  Right then and there, that should show you this guy's a coward and a fraud, and nobody should vote for him.
[00:50:10]  Galarian runs from Thomas Massey.
[00:50:12]  He's scared to debate.
[00:50:14]  And we all know why.
[00:50:17]  Now, I got a clip of Galarian having a hard time at a political event.
[00:50:21]  I'm sure many of you saw there was the polymarket prediction markets changing in the last 48 hours, and Massey took a massive dive as far as the prediction market odds are concerned.
[00:50:41]  And it makes no sense to me.
[00:50:43]  It makes no sense to me that Thomas Massey, the incumbent, Thomas Massey, the true conservative, Thomas Massey, very popular.
[00:50:51]  In his state, in his district.
[00:50:53]  It makes no sense to me that this race would be close, but it makes even less sense that Massey would somehow flip to be a massive underdog.
[00:51:02]  Well, I have a theory here.
[00:51:04]  I have a theory.
[00:51:06]  I think somebody manipulated that market.
[00:51:10]  I think for one or two reasons, I think somebody made a massive play into that market to manipulate that market against Thomas Massey, or I think somebody made a massive play in that market.
[00:51:26]  To tank Massey's odds so that they can buy those odds now for pennies on the dollar.
[00:51:34]  And then when Massey wins, they get a massive payout.
[00:51:39]  This is my conspiracy theory on that poll because it makes no sense.
[00:51:42]  Why would Massey all of a sudden become the underdog?
[00:51:45]  I guess they're trying to use this allegation as the cover to say, oh, this is really hurting Massey.
[00:51:53]  I don't buy it, I'm not buying it.
[00:51:57]  To me, this is all a rig job.
[00:51:59]  This is somebody, because you have to understand the way these markets work, it's all just, it's all determinative on dollars.
[00:52:07]  So if two things are even odds, and then somebody bets or puts an amount of money into this prediction market that's double what's already in that market, then they can basically manipulate the entire market just by one play, by one bet, if you will.
[00:52:26]  So, I think somebody is manipulating the poly market on the Thomas Massey race.
[00:52:32]  And I think it's either to hurt Massey or I think they wanted to, I think they know Massey is going to win.
[00:52:38]  So, they did this bet to drive down the price of Massey to then go out and make a huge Massey buy at 17 cents or whatever it is now.
[00:52:50]  And so that way they're getting a huge return when Massey wins.
[00:52:55]  Now, the reason I say that.
[00:52:59]  I just don't see the support for Ed Glaren.
[00:53:01]  I just do not see it.
[00:53:03]  I don't see it.
[00:53:04]  And even his own rallies, he's getting heckled.
[00:53:06]  He doesn't show up to debate.
[00:53:10]  Let's go to this from a local reporter in Kentucky.
[00:53:15]  And this is the video Crowd turns on Ed Glaren, Thomas Massey's opponent, at campaign event.
[00:53:23]  Ed Glaren has been sending out text messages, inviting the public to events in a desperate bid to rehab his image.
[00:53:32]  As a candidate willing to engage with voters, it's not working.
[00:53:35]  We now have a second video from one of these events, and several members of the crowd turn on him.
[00:53:40]  No wonder he no showed so many early events and refuses to share a stage with Thomas Massey.
[00:53:46]  The more people actually see him, the more they wonder if he was ever meant to win this race.
[00:53:50]  In the video, a voter directly asks why he won't debate Massey.
[00:53:55]  Ed's response he holds up a Norman Rockwell painting and insists he's debating Thomas Massey right now, even though Massey isn't in the room.
[00:54:04]  More audience members pile on with remarks like, I didn't come here to see your Letterman jacket.
[00:54:08]  When a campaign staffer tries to defuse the situation by claiming Ed had answered the question, several people fire back.
[00:54:15]  That he hasn't said anything substantive.
[00:54:18]  Just wave around props while dodging policy questions.
[00:54:21]  Normally, at campaign events, if someone challenges a candidate, parts of the crowd rush to defend them.
[00:54:26]  Here, multiple people joined in the pushback.
[00:54:28]  That's a massive red flag.
[00:54:30]  I've been told by multiple sources that the campaign is now turning away anyone who looks under 60 at the door, terrified they might actually ask Ed a tough question.
[00:54:39]  Now, I want to point one other thing out before we go to this video.
[00:54:42]  This is from Andrew Cooper, writer.
[00:54:47]  He is a local radio host in Massey's district.
[00:54:50]  Now, why do I say this?
[00:54:54]  If you go and you look at the local media, the conservative media, talk show hosts, they're all supporting Massey.
[00:55:03]  So the infrastructure of conservative media at the local level all supports Massey.
[00:55:11]  And usually that's a pretty good indicator of where right wingers and voters are going in the election.
[00:55:20]  So again, I just do not see where the support for Gallarin comes from.
[00:55:28]  I mean, obviously, the Trump cult is putting as much weight as they can, but they don't vote.
[00:55:34]  They don't live in the district.
[00:55:36]  These are all social media sellouts that are just working for the Trump campaign, either directly or indirectly, and are just in the Trump cult.
[00:55:45]  They're not actually influencing local elections.
[00:55:47]  They're not actually in Kentucky seeing and hearing what's going on.
[00:55:50]  So here's the actual video of Ed's most recent event.
[00:55:53]  He took the press out the middle and talked right to the people.
[00:55:55]  What did President Trump do?
[00:55:57]  What did Gal Ryan do?
[00:55:58]  I'm going to talk right to you.
[00:56:00]  I ain't scared enough.
[00:56:00]  You think I like the courage?
[00:56:02]  In fact, they got big, but I had to hog time me from taking that bull on.
[00:56:05]  So there ain't no money in it.
[00:56:06]  The New York Times now show up, and all they're going to print is, you know, if you like your doctor, you can keep whatever they say, they're going to call it the gospel.
[00:56:12]  You know, you ain't going to hear another word about it.
[00:56:15]  So as you might guess, I'm not shy enough about courage about nothing, you know, in terms of that.
[00:56:19]  But you haven't debated him.
[00:56:21]  I'm debating him right now.
[00:56:22]  No, you're not.
[00:56:23]  You're not debating him.
[00:56:26]  You're giving a bunch of.
[00:56:27]  I mean, folks, this is, this is, I just can't, you know.
[00:56:39]  Should I be nicey?
[00:56:39]  Am I feeling nicey today, guys?
[00:56:42]  I don't think so.
[00:56:44]  I don't think I'm feeling so nicey today.
[00:56:47]  I don't really care what you think about Massey.
[00:56:51]  You know, we can talk about how he helped get Epstein files.
[00:56:58]  We can talk about his voting record.
[00:57:00]  We can talk about all of this stuff.
[00:57:01]  You can take the Trump angle.
[00:57:02]  You can take whatever you want.
[00:57:03]  I say, just remove all of that.
[00:57:07]  Just remove all of that.
[00:57:08]  This clip right here should be it.
[00:57:11]  Anybody that supports this clown, to me, you're such a sellout.
[00:57:15]  You're such a phony.
[00:57:17]  And I'm being very nice, actually.
[00:57:19]  I'm being nice by using these words to describe you because believe me, you're much worse.
[00:57:25]  You're much worse.
[00:57:26]  But I'll be nice.
[00:57:28]  He says, I'm debating Massey right now.
[00:57:30]  He's literally running from debates.
[00:57:32]  He's dodging debates, and Massey is not in the room.
[00:57:35]  I mean, if that isn't as phony, if that isn't as fraudulent, if that isn't as fake, if this guy isn't a purebred liar, political scumbag, just that clip alone, it should be over.
[00:57:50]  How can you defend that?
[00:57:52]  I'm debating Massey right now.
[00:57:54]  What a clown.
[00:57:55]  What a joke.
[00:58:00]  But you haven't debated him.
[00:58:03]  I'm debating him right now.
[00:58:04]  No, you're not.
[00:58:05]  I'm glad you're not debating him.
[00:58:07]  You're giving a bunch of platitudes.
[00:58:09]  You're not explaining anything.
[00:58:11]  You've not gone toe to toe with the congressman.
[00:58:14]  You're not explaining your differences.
[00:58:16]  You're not doing anything.
[00:58:19]  You're just like, you're not explaining any differences.
[00:58:23]  I just laid it all out.
[00:58:25]  It made no sense.
[00:58:27]  It made no sense.
[00:58:30]  Yeah.
[00:58:37]  A civil conversation is the congressman and him debating, not him pulling up signs and a letterman's jacket walking away.
[00:58:48]  That's not an answer.
[00:58:51]  So that's the status of the Gallarin campaign.
[00:59:03]  And I think we just have to say it.
[00:59:06]  And I said it yesterday.
[00:59:06]  I'm going to say it again right now.
[00:59:08]  We just have to say it, folks.
[00:59:14]  If Massey loses this race, there is no Republican Party, folks.
[00:59:18]  There isn't.
[00:59:19]  There's no conservative movement.
[00:59:20]  There's no right wing of America.
[00:59:23]  There's no Republican Party.
[00:59:24]  There's just the foreign donor class.
[00:59:27]  That's it.
[00:59:27]  And they can buy any seat they want.
[00:59:29]  They can buy it on the Republican side.
[00:59:32]  They can buy it on the Democrat side.
[00:59:34]  And quite frankly, these foreign loyalists, they don't give a damn what happens to America.
[00:59:40]  They don't give a damn if America collapses.
[00:59:43]  All they care about is Israel.
[00:59:47]  That's all they care about.
[00:59:48]  And now you are part of that.
[00:59:49]  Now you are a sellout.
[00:59:51]  Now you are a trader.
[00:59:52]  And that's how you will go down in history.
[00:59:56]  And I don't want to see this happen.
[00:59:58]  I don't want to see the nastiness of what's going to happen if Massey loses.
[01:00:07]  Because let me tell you if Massey loses this race, if you think MAGA is cringe now, if you think MAGA is pure political filth.
[01:00:18]  Brainwashed coward cultists, now you are going to see the most despicable behavior in politics since left wingers were celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
[01:00:29]  That's how disgusting MAGA will be.
[01:00:32]  And so it's like, if you really wanted to see MAGA fall and take that tumble into the political abyss of corruption and filth, then that's what's going to happen.
[01:00:44]  I don't want to see that.
[01:00:45]  I'd like to think that there is still an America.
[01:00:50]  That rejects foreign influence.
[01:00:53]  I'd like to think that there is still a political movement out there that cannot be bought off and co opted by traitors.
[01:01:00]  I'd like to think that there's American people that still can think independently that don't exist in political cults that can stop this from happening, at least in one race, at least one time.
[01:01:14]  But I'm telling you right now if Massey loses this, if you think MAGA is nasty now, if you think MAGA is nasty, Is a corrupt, filthy cult now.
[01:01:26]  Just wait.
[01:01:28]  Just wait to watch these people gloat that foreign interests own our government.
[01:01:34]  Just wait.
[01:01:36]  And they're going to sit there and pretend that they're American patriots.
[01:01:40]  And they're going to sit there and pretend like they're America first.
[01:01:43]  And all of us will be sitting here looking at them like, wow, you are total brainwashed sellouts and maybe even worse than the left because you're actual foreign loyalists.
[01:01:55]  At least the left, you know, I don't know.
[01:01:57]  I don't really see foreign loyalty from the left.
[01:02:00]  Are they anti American?
[01:02:01]  Are they out of their minds?
[01:02:02]  Are they deranged?
[01:02:03]  Do their policies destroy the country?
[01:02:05]  Yeah.
[01:02:06]  But are they foreign loyalists?
[01:02:09]  Do they work for foreign donors and foreign interests and foreign money?
[01:02:18]  That's what we're going to witness.
[01:02:22]  That's what we're going to witness.
[01:02:24]  And it's just heartbreaking.
[01:02:26]  We were supposed to be saving the country, we were supposed to be turning this thing around.
[01:02:31]  This was our time.
[01:02:32]  This was our time to save the country.
[01:02:35]  Beat the political establishment, beat the donor class, beat the lobbying class, and save the country.
[01:02:41]  And globalists and foreign interests and special interests now run this administration.
[01:02:46]  They now run MAGA.
[01:02:49]  And it's depressing, it's infuriating, it's heartbreaking, it's soul crushing, it's angering.
[01:02:57]  And we're just sitting here watching all these brainwashed Americans go along for the ride.
[01:03:03]  And the reason they enjoy it is because they get to rub it in your face.
[01:03:09]  It's not even about political results anymore.
[01:03:13]  It's not even about saving the country anymore.
[01:03:16]  It's not even about America anymore.
[01:03:18]  It's not even about policy anymore.
[01:03:20]  It's literally just they just want to rub it in your face.
[01:03:22]  That's all it is.
[01:03:23]  Their entire motive now is they just want to get up and rub it in your face.
[01:03:28]  They don't care if America collapses.
[01:03:31]  They don't care about the midterms.
[01:03:35]  They don't care about the economy.
[01:03:37]  They don't care if people are dying overseas.
[01:03:40]  None of this stuff matters to them.
[01:03:42]  All they care about now is they just want to rub it in your face.
[01:03:46]  They just want to feel powerful.
[01:03:48]  They just want to feel like they're part of the political system.
[01:03:51]  They're part of the political power establishment, and they get to rub it in your face now because they're part of the corrupt establishment and you're not.
[01:04:02]  And so, hey, if that's who you want to be, then that's who you are.
[01:04:06]  But that's not what America likes.
[01:04:07]  That's not who we are.
[01:04:10]  And you might think that you're winning and you might think that you're having your moment.
[01:04:15]  But you're really just embarrassing yourself.
[01:04:19]  And to most people, you're just traitors.
[01:04:22]  You're just traitors to the country.
[01:04:26]  And there'll be nothing, nothing that you can really do to save your image, by the way.
[01:04:35]  Because you guys apparently don't understand that Trump is not going to be president forever.
[01:04:40]  There is going to be a post Trump America, there is going to be a post MAGA America.
[01:04:46]  And when that America.

=== Tax Exempt Status Scandal (04:29) ===

[01:04:48]  Becomes the reality, everybody will remember all of you sellouts on the right.
[01:04:53]  Everybody will remember all of you MAGA phonies, MAGA frauds, political establishment hacks, brainwashed cultists, nasty, disgusting people.
[01:05:03]  We will all remember you.
[01:05:06]  We will all remember you in the post Trump world.
[01:05:08]  And you won't have Daddy Trump to make you feel good anymore.
[01:05:12]  You won't have your MAGA hat cult to make you feel like you're powerful anymore.
[01:05:17]  You will go down into the dirt with the rest of the traitors and filth.
[01:05:23]  That our political system has exposed.
[01:05:28]  Not me.
[01:05:31]  Not me.
[01:05:34]  Not Thomas Massey.
[01:05:36]  Not Thomas Massey either, by the way.
[01:05:38]  All right, a couple things here before we bring Thomas Massey on.
[01:05:43]  Did you guys hear about this?
[01:05:44]  You know, I've been hearing about this Cars for Kids scam for a long time.
[01:05:48]  It's actually getting into the courts now.
[01:05:50]  Cars for Kids investigations and lawsuits, dog billion dollar nonprofit.
[01:05:56]  Lakewood based Cars for Kids, cemented in the brains of millions by that ubiquitous radio jingle, has built a multi million dollar fundraising empire based on the single premise of car donations to benefit children.
[01:06:10]  Now they got this thing behind a paywall.
[01:06:13]  Maybe we can get another one here.
[01:06:16]  Court bans Cars for Kids ads in California for violating false advertising law.
[01:06:23]  Car donation charity fined millions, accepts fundraising restrictions in Colorado and 18 other states.
[01:06:33]  Cars for Kids, another political boondoggle.
[01:06:37]  Now, here's some from the actual lawsuit.
[01:06:42]  Cars for Kids has been banned from advertising in California as it has been deemed deceptive by a judge for helping exclusively Orthodox Jewish children in the New York and New Jersey areas, despite having eight year old actors of all races singing their jingle.
[01:06:58]  So it's a scam to take money from Americans and give it to Jewish children.
[01:07:04]  If you want to put it into simple words, from the actual court document here, Aura is no stranger to litigation.
[01:07:12]  In addition to multiple investigations by state attorney generals and individual lawsuits concerning defendants' misleading and deceptive advertising, Aura has also been targeted by several other lawsuits relating to its purported outreach activities.
[01:07:28]  One such lawsuit accused Aura of secretly purchasing a small synagogue on Staten Island in 2007 to obtain tax exempt status as a religious organization and thereby avoid filing.
[01:07:38]  A public tax return and public scrutiny of its dealings.
[01:07:41]  By the way, a lot of people do this.
[01:07:44]  A lot of liberals do this.
[01:07:45]  That's why you have all of these churches and you'll have female pastors and trans dance time for kids and stuff.
[01:07:52]  That's because they pretend like it's a religious body so that they can be tax exempt by having these churches.
[01:07:58]  And then it just becomes a giant grift and anti Catholic, anti Christian group where they just promote liberal ideology.
[01:08:08]  As they pose as a church for a tax exempt status.
[01:08:12]  I've exposed a lot of this in Texas.
[01:08:13]  Moving on back to the court document.
[01:08:16]  According to New York Jewish Week, an independent newspaper serving the New York Jewish community, Young Israel of Eltingville, Young Israel, the synagogue's prior owner, accused Aura of improperly purchasing the synagogue's building and creating a fake synagogue called Congregation Aura, also run by Mintz, to secure the tax exempt status.
[01:08:37]  Young Israel alleged the Congregation Aura did not, however, provide religious services at the synagogue.
[01:08:43]  And then it falsely obtained tax exempt status and allowed Aura to shield its questionable financial dealings from public scrutiny.
[01:08:53]  So there's more in this document.
[01:08:54]  But basically, they found out that, you know, it was supposedly a, they said it was an anti Semitic conspiracy theory.
[01:09:02]  I never even, I never covered it.
[01:09:05]  They said it was an anti Semitic conspiracy theory that Cars for Kids was a front group that was only benefiting, Jewish children, and now it's actually come out in court that it's true.

=== Underwater UFO Cover-Up (03:21) ===

[01:09:18]  How funny is that?
[01:09:19]  What else are they going to find out next?
[01:09:21]  It's like, what about all these other groups?
[01:09:23]  Like, they found out the, what is it like, the CCJ?
[01:09:27]  It's like the Christian Coalition for Jews or whatever.
[01:09:30]  And it's just they put these ads on TV and they show you some old Jewish woman in like a burnt down hut.
[01:09:35]  They're like, oh, you know, give your money to the poor, starving Jews, the Holocaust survivors.
[01:09:40]  Oh, they have no money.
[01:09:41]  They're poor.
[01:09:42]  They need food.
[01:09:43]  They're starving.
[01:09:44]  Oh, everybody's seen it.
[01:09:48]  And they get all these suckers to donate to these causes and they just steal your money.
[01:09:53]  They just steal your money.
[01:09:59]  It's all so corrupt, man.
[01:10:02]  It's all so corrupt.
[01:10:06]  What else do we have here?
[01:10:07]  How about this one?
[01:10:08]  Divers find underwater IED at Critical Alabama Dam.
[01:10:14]  An FBI bomb squad and law enforcement teams from Mobile, Alabama, on Wednesday removed and safely detonated an improvised explosive device found at the Converse Reservoir Dam.
[01:10:27]  Whoa.
[01:10:30]  What's up with that?
[01:10:31]  Divers located the device, a grenade type IED, underwater during routine maintenance.
[01:10:38]  The Mobile Water Authority quickly alerted the local sheriff's office, which coordinated the law enforcement response.
[01:10:44]  The IED was removed without damage to the dam and drinking water was not affected.
[01:10:48]  The Mobile Area Water and Sewer Systems wrote in a news release.
[01:10:55]  Well, I don't want to jump to any conclusions here, but.
[01:10:58]  Considering everything we've seen with the refineries and production plants and now dams, I'd say it's fair to say our country is under attack, guys.
[01:11:07]  I'd say somebody is attacking our country.
[01:11:11]  These things are not happening as isolated incidents.
[01:11:15]  Something is going on here, and they're not covering it.
[01:11:17]  You won't hear about this, by the way.
[01:11:20]  You're not going to hear about this.
[01:11:24]  Maybe you'll hear about some aliens.
[01:11:27]  How's that one going?
[01:11:28]  Thousands of mysterious underwater UFOs spotted off UF shores.
[01:11:32]  Now they're doing the water aliens.
[01:11:35]  Now we got water aliens.
[01:11:38]  I guess the space aliens didn't really do it for you.
[01:11:41]  So now they're giving you the aquatic aliens.
[01:11:44]  A popular UFO reporting app has been making waves after reportedly recording tens of thousands of mysterious underwater objects up and down the United States coastlines, raising eyebrows and leaving experts with more questions than answers regarding their origins.
[01:12:03]  Enigma, a nonpartisan organization that boasts its largest quarryable historical sighting database for UFO sightings, has recorded roughly 30,000 UFO sightings since its launch in 2022, according to the company's website, on and on and on.
[01:12:18]  So now they're saying, though, they're happening underwater.
[01:12:23]  So the space aliens didn't really distract you from the corruption in DC.
[01:12:27]  So now they're going to try to go with the aquatic aliens, I guess, the underwater.
[01:12:34]  Aliens is going to be their move now.

=== Crash Out Energy Drinks (13:39) ===

[01:12:39]  We'll see how that one goes.
[01:12:41]  We're going to take a short break here.
[01:12:42]  We got Representative Thomas Massey coming up here shortly as his team is getting ready to join us.
[01:12:49]  We're going to talk about what happened with the raid that wasn't a raid, it's all this semantical thing into Tulsi Gabbard's office.
[01:13:00]  We are going to talk, we're going to play a clip of a debate from Tucker Carlson and Kevin O'Leary about data centers and AI.
[01:13:07]  We've got a couple of clips from that.
[01:13:10]  And then I'm going to show you that the Democrats are hitting all the pressure points right now.
[01:13:16]  The Democrats are hitting all the pressure points of the issues that Americans are thinking about and are concerned about heading into the midterms.
[01:13:24]  And the Republicans are going to be on the wrong side of these issues politically.
[01:13:27]  And if they think they can just shove it down your throat with all of their cult members telling you how great it is on social media, unfortunately for them, that is not going to go well.
[01:13:41]  So we got all of that coming up.
[01:13:42]  Thomas Massey about to join us shortly here.
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[01:16:07]  All right.
[01:16:07]  We take a short break.
[01:16:09]  When we come back, we will be joined by Representative Thomas Massey.
[01:16:17]  Obviously, a big news story right now.
[01:16:19]  The primary happening, the attacks on him, his most recent bills.
[01:16:23]  All of this is happening on the other side of this break.

=== Representative Massey Joins Live (08:28) ===

[01:26:19]  No, no, no, no, no Extra dimensional and multi universal.
[01:26:32]  Here's your host, Owen Schroyer.
[01:26:47]  All right, Representative Massey was voting today, and so he is running a little bit behind.
[01:26:55]  So I decided I'd just go ahead and fire up back into the show.
[01:27:01]  And instead of having you guys wait through an extended break, and so as we will be joined by Representative Thomas Massey here shortly, let me again reiterate why this race is so important.
[01:27:20]  If we cannot keep Thomas Massey in Congress, then there is no conservative movement.
[01:27:31]  If we cannot keep Thomas Massey in Congress, then there is no Republican Party.
[01:27:40]  That's the message here.
[01:27:44]  Massey, who has the strongest.
[01:27:48]  Conservative voting record in Congress.
[01:27:51]  Massey, who has the highest grade on the Liberty Score review.
[01:27:57]  Thomas Massey, who is actually principled as far as conservatism and small government politics are concerned.
[01:28:06]  If we can't keep Massey in there, then there is no Republican Party.
[01:28:11]  There is no conservative movement.
[01:28:16]  And there is no right wing in America.
[01:28:20]  It just doesn't exist.
[01:28:22]  There's only the foreign donor class and the foreign interests that can buy any political seat in Congress that they want.
[01:28:32]  And I find it funny.
[01:28:33]  There is this attack from the MAGA cult today, and they're pointing out that Thomas Massey has fundraising from donors all across the country.
[01:28:45]  Now, Massey's donors are mostly, you know, humble, small donations.
[01:28:50]  We're not talking about big money, but they are coming from across the nation.
[01:28:53]  Because American conservatives, American Republicans, right wingers, small government libertarians, they all see what this race represents.
[01:29:01]  And if we can't keep Massey in Congress, it's over.
[01:29:04]  The foreign interests own Congress, and there's nothing we can do about it.
[01:29:07]  We can't even keep one good guy in there.
[01:29:11]  And so that's where it's coming from.
[01:29:13]  But it's funny when I see all of these MAGA cultists saying, oh, look, Massey has donations coming from Texas and coming from Florida and this state and that state.
[01:29:24]  It's funny watching MAGA say that and ignoring the fact.
[01:29:28]  That the top donors for Ed Gallerin's campaign are all Israelis.
[01:29:35]  It's all the Israeli interest, which is a foreign country.
[01:29:40]  I find it ironic.
[01:29:42]  I find it ironic that MAGA now has a bigger issue with Americans donating to a political campaign in America than they do foreign interests and the donor class donating to a campaign in America.
[01:29:58]  And that just tells you where they're at.
[01:29:59]  That tells you where they're at.
[01:30:00]  That tells you it's a total Trump cult.
[01:30:02]  They'll do whatever Trump tells them to do.
[01:30:03]  It doesn't really matter.
[01:30:04]  It's not about politics.
[01:30:05]  It's not about policy.
[01:30:06]  It's not about conservatism.
[01:30:08]  It's not about having a right wing.
[01:30:12]  Because AIPAC has done the exact same thing to Democrats.
[01:30:15]  They did the exact same thing to Cori Bush.
[01:30:20]  They've done the exact same thing to Jamal Bowman.
[01:30:27]  And I don't like either of them, just to be clear.
[01:30:29]  I'm no fan of Jamal Bowman or Cori Bush, but we all saw what happened.
[01:30:33]  They went anti Israel.
[01:30:36]  And so AIPAC came in and bought their seats and gave it to a Democrat that would be pro Israel.
[01:30:44]  So we can't let AIPAC and we can't let the foreign lobby control both parties.
[01:30:49]  We can't let AIPAC and the foreign lobbyists control our entire government.
[01:30:53]  Can't we have anything?
[01:30:56]  Can we have anything without the foreign lobbyists running it at all?
[01:31:00]  Just one thing.
[01:31:01]  That's what I'm wondering.
[01:31:02]  That's what I'm hoping.
[01:31:03]  All right, as we're waiting for Representative Massey to join us, From voting.
[01:31:08]  DMT, producer DMT wants to quickly weigh in here.
[01:31:12]  How about that?
[01:31:14]  What's on your mind today?
[01:31:20]  I think you're muted.
[01:31:23]  Yeah, you're definitely muted.
[01:31:25]  You got to unmute yourself.
[01:31:28]  He's blowing it.
[01:31:29]  He's just blowing it right now.
[01:31:32]  Yeah, you're muted, bud.
[01:31:35]  Yeah, that's a big swing and a miss right there.
[01:31:38]  It's all right.
[01:31:39]  Yo, I know you can hear me now.
[01:31:40]  See, you're just not going to do it.
[01:31:44]  I cannot unmute you.
[01:31:45]  You have to unmute yourself.
[01:31:47]  I know you're not doing well.
[01:31:49]  The pitcher's winding up.
[01:31:52]  He's getting ready to throw the ball.
[01:31:54]  You got me now?
[01:31:56]  Unbelievable.
[01:31:58]  Unreal.
[01:31:58]  Well, you wanted to come on here.
[01:32:00]  You wanted to state your piece, and you just muted yourself.
[01:32:05]  So that did not go so well.
[01:32:08]  All right.
[01:32:09]  Well, maybe you can figure that one out.
[01:32:16]  You want to try it again?
[01:32:19]  All right.
[01:32:20]  We got Representative Massey about to sit down.
[01:32:22]  I just saw him come across the feed.
[01:32:24]  So we'll be joined by Representative Massey here.
[01:32:26]  Hey, we'll try again later, DMT.
[01:32:28]  We got Representative Massey about to join us.
[01:32:30]  He's about to sit down at the desk.
[01:32:34]  So we'll try that again later.
[01:32:36]  Don't worry about that.
[01:32:39]  So that's what this race represents in my eyes.
[01:32:42]  And I'll say this again, too.
[01:32:47]  I think that that poly market prediction, I think that they intentionally tanked the odds for Massey to either make him look bad or because somebody knows Massey is going to win and they wanted to lower the value of that so that they could buy it for pennies on the dollar and then get 10 times on their investment when the incumbent Representative Thomas Massey ends up winning the race.
[01:33:08]  That's my interpretation of that poly market polling.
[01:33:15]  So that's just kind of how I see it.
[01:33:18]  All right, Representative Massey.
[01:33:20]  Oh, he's got, he's even got his famous debt clock on the jacket today.
[01:33:25]  Well, of course, it wouldn't be a Thomas Massey interview without the debt clock because, you know, it's very conservative to just ram home trillions and trillions in debt to the point where you have to be paying a trillion annually just on the interest of the debt.
[01:33:42]  So, yeah, I don't know.
[01:33:43]  No other politician seems to care about that.
[01:33:46]  And that says a lot as well.
[01:33:48]  All right, Representative Massey joining us.
[01:33:52]  Oh, yeah.
[01:33:53]  Representative Massey, it's been a crazy week for you, huh?
[01:33:56]  It's what week is not crazy?
[01:33:59]  If you do this job right, every week's going to be crazy.
[01:34:03]  It's only the rubber stamps and the zombies that don't have crazy weeks.
[01:34:07]  Well, and you're certainly neither of those.
[01:34:09]  You know, I want to, I don't want to get too directional with the campaign to start here.
[01:34:13]  We've got you for about 30 minutes.
[01:34:14]  I know you're busy.
[01:34:15]  You're doing a bunch of interviews.
[01:34:17]  I want to just kind of talk about the culture right now.
[01:34:21]  You know, where I'm standing, I've dealt with it, you know, from the media.
[01:34:26]  Of staying true to my values, staying true to my principles, a conservative, America first, whatever you want to call it.
[01:34:33]  And it seems to be that the rest of the right wing or MAGA or the GOP, however we want to classify it, it seems that they are the ones that are going a different direction than us.
[01:34:45]  And that kind of seems to be the way it is for me.

=== Omnibus Bill Money Trail (10:40) ===

[01:34:47]  And then I get the attacks.
[01:34:49]  It seems to me the same thing is happening with you.
[01:34:51]  I mean, whether it's your voting record, whether it's your principled stance on conservatism, the same lies and hit pieces that MAGA used to be able to identify false allegations.
[01:35:02]  Oh, he didn't vote for this bill.
[01:35:03]  No, he would have supported it.
[01:35:05]  It's because of all the pork.
[01:35:06]  What's it like to be on the receiving end of that as a politician?
[01:35:11]  You know, I've been here before.
[01:35:14]  I say that I was the most hated person in Washington, D.C., until Marjorie Taylor Greene arrived.
[01:35:19]  And then I was only the most hated man.
[01:35:22]  But when she left, the intensity on me doubled because, you know, she was principled.
[01:35:28]  She was in the way that you're describing.
[01:35:32]  It's tough, but it's worth doing.
[01:35:34]  I'll say that.
[01:35:35]  And when you've got the same story, no matter who you're talking to, it makes life a lot easier.
[01:35:40]  I think it's the people who come up here and vote against their constituents, walk the plank for the party leadership, and then have to go back home and take their butt whippings in the town halls.
[01:35:52]  Those are the ones I feel sorry for.
[01:35:54]  But that's the price they pay for perpetual reelection just to continuously frustrate or obfuscate with their base.
[01:36:03]  And then their base always wonders when did Lucy pull the football away?
[01:36:08]  How is it that they haven't scored a touchdown or a field goal by now?
[01:36:13]  Because they've been trying so hard.
[01:36:15]  And Owen, one of the things that I've been branded as unfairly on some days, fairly on others, is an obstructionist.
[01:36:24]  Let me tell you the things that I have been successful in obstructing.
[01:36:28]  I have obstructed a cover up of the Epstein files.
[01:36:31]  I have obstructed the get out of court free cards that Monsanto Bear was trying to get for glyphosate, otherwise known as Roundup.
[01:36:41]  I have obstructed warrantless spying, along with some other Republicans up here, obviously.
[01:36:47]  Who are wedded to the Constitution, not just the Second Amendment, but also the Fourth Amendment, First Amendment, and the 10th Amendment.
[01:36:54]  So, those are the things that I have obstructed.
[01:36:57]  The things, though, that get me in the most trouble, Owen, are the votes that are 420 to one.
[01:37:05]  That's where the money's coming from.
[01:37:06]  The people who are mad at me for having the audacity to go against a complete uniparty and to vote on resolutions, a vote against resolutions, because somewhere in there it says two plus two equals five.
[01:37:19]  And then I go online.
[01:37:21]  And I show people, do you see in this bill right here it says two plus two equals five?
[01:37:25]  And then the other 420 are in trouble because it looks like nobody read the bill but me.
[01:37:30]  There's where I get in the most trouble, Owen.
[01:37:33]  And that might be on some meaningless, saber rattling foreign policy, you know, non binding resolution.
[01:37:41]  That's why there's $15 million, $20 million by now against me in this primary.
[01:37:47]  That's why this has become the most expensive primary in history, in congressional history.
[01:37:52]  And a lot of that money, of course, is the foreign interest class.
[01:37:56]  It's funny, though, when you mentioned the things that you are actively obstructing, if we would turn the clocks back a year, maybe two, if you turned the clocks back and Thomas Massey came on this show and said, Here's what I'm going to be obstructing politically, MAGA would be celebrating.
[01:38:14]  I mean, this is the core of MAGA.
[01:38:18]  Like that used to be what MAGA is all about.
[01:38:20]  If you would have said that on this show a year or two ago, MAGA would be celebrating.
[01:38:24]  We'd be throwing our hats in the air.
[01:38:26]  We'd be saying, This is what MAGA is about.
[01:38:29]  But now you've been consistent.
[01:38:32]  This is MAGA.
[01:38:33]  This is MAHA, also, by the way, with the glyphosates.
[01:38:36]  Correct.
[01:38:36]  And now somehow this is foreign to the cause.
[01:38:39]  This is foreign to the movement.
[01:38:41]  I mean, I'm sitting here like I'm in the twilight zone and I'm like, what happened?
[01:38:45]  What happened to MAGA?
[01:38:47]  What happened to MAHA?
[01:38:48]  These are the issues that we used to campaign on and we used to want to get into Congress.
[01:38:53]  You're the one holding the line here and they're trying to get you out.
[01:38:57]  Right.
[01:38:58]  And while we're talking about MAHA, let's talk about when I'm not an obstructionist, when I can get something passed.
[01:39:03]  I got to, A pro gun piece of legislation passed this week.
[01:39:07]  And last month, I got my prime act in the farm bill.
[01:39:11]  This is like the crown jewel, one of the crown jewels for Maha.
[01:39:15]  Bobby Kennedy wanted me to be the ag secretary.
[01:39:17]  This would have been the first thing I would have tried to get done as ag secretary, make it easier for small farmers, sustainably managed farms to sell direct to consumers without this meat monopoly, the oligopoly of foreign interests, foreign countries, again, that own the meat processing plants in the United States.
[01:39:37]  Getting involved in that transaction without the regulatory capture of the USDA, I got a bill called the Prime Act in the Farm Bill.
[01:39:45]  This is, you know, in a place where almost nothing ever gets done and the things that get done are not good things, this is something good that happened and nobody wants to talk about it.
[01:39:56]  Now, how have they tried to convince some of the people in Kentucky that I have abandoned my principles?
[01:40:03]  Well, they're using the oldest trick in the book.
[01:40:06]  They're using these giant omnibus bills, they're 1,000, 3,000 pages.
[01:40:11]  Look, I have voted against every omnibus bill.
[01:40:15]  These omnibus bills are why, when I got here, the debt was $18 trillion and now it's $39 trillion because they put everything, including the kitchen sink, in an omnibus bill.
[01:40:26]  So the ads that they're running against me, they could have run these ads based on my votes on the omnibus that Obama wanted, the omnibus that Biden wanted, or the omnibus that Trump wanted because every one of those omnibus bills funded the military.
[01:40:42]  Okay.
[01:40:43]  Every one of those funded Border Patrol.
[01:40:45]  Even Biden and Obama's bills had some money in there for that, right?
[01:40:50]  So they could run those ads if you voted against any omnibus bill.
[01:40:56]  And so that's what they do.
[01:40:57]  They're trying to convince people that I'm not for a wall, that I'm not for the SAVE Act, that I'm not for preventing men playing in girls' sports.
[01:41:07]  But those are all bills that I have voted for, I've co sponsored them, and I vote for them individually.
[01:41:13]  But when they try to season one of these big crap sandwiches with one of those good bills, I'm like, this is still a crap sandwich.
[01:41:20]  And this is how you're tricking conservatives into bankrupting this country.
[01:41:25]  I'm not going to fall for it.
[01:41:26]  Let me give you the most egregious example of this.
[01:41:30]  I have voted to keep men out of women's sports.
[01:41:33]  I have voted for Marjorie Taylor Greene's standalone bill to outlaw transgender surgeries for children.
[01:41:39]  But they stuck a provision, a good provision, in the first draft of the big beautiful bill that would defund.
[01:41:46]  The transgender surgeries, sex changes, let's just call it what it is sex changes for children.
[01:41:52]  Okay.
[01:41:53]  And they got all the Republicans, not to mix metaphors here, they got them all half pregnant.
[01:41:58]  They got them all to vote, except for me, they got them all to vote for that first version of the big beautiful bill.
[01:42:05]  Well, the bill goes over to the Senate, and everybody in the House wants to blame the Senate for stripping that out.
[01:42:10]  The Senate did strip it out.
[01:42:12]  But what happened when that bill came back to the House and there was no ban on sex, gender, You know, sex and gender, whatever changes for children.
[01:42:24]  Everybody but me and another Republican voted for the bill that put the funding back in.
[01:42:31]  So, you could, that's the most disingenuous thing is when they run an ad that says he voted against the ban on funding sex changes for children.
[01:42:40]  Well, guess what?
[01:42:41]  They took the ban out and everybody voted for it except for me.
[01:42:45]  That's what's really disingenuous.
[01:42:47]  And I go back to the same thing because I do think that perspective is everything here, especially in this new tumultuous time in right wing American politics.
[01:42:58]  Again, this is something that MAGA used to understand.
[01:43:01]  And MAGA itself, When Trump first came down the golden escalator and started this political movement, it was always about, hey, there's a new American right that is politically informed and we understand how the corruption works.
[01:43:17]  You're citing one example here.
[01:43:18]  It's like we used to understand, MAGA used to understand how they play these games.
[01:43:23]  They'll have a $60 million bill, okay?
[01:43:27]  And $20 million is for the military and then $40 million is for pork.
[01:43:32]  And they'll say, This is the military.
[01:43:35]  This is the save the military bill.
[01:43:36]  It's got 20 million for the military.
[01:43:38]  And then it's got 40 million for transgender studies and, you know, Libya and drunk seafood excursions and, you know, wherever, Tanzania.
[01:43:47]  And it's got all this garbage in there.
[01:43:48]  And you're saying, hey, I'll vote for $20 million for the military.
[01:43:53]  I'm not going to vote for $40 million for all of this pork.
[01:43:56]  MAGA used to understand that.
[01:43:58]  It's like, what happened?
[01:44:00]  But I don't want to get, I think that you've expressed on that.
[01:44:02]  Let me tell you another thing that everybody used to understand.
[01:44:06]  When Barack Obama was the president, Nancy Pelosi was the speaker, pick any of these times, or even when John Boehner was the speaker.
[01:44:15]  If a bunch of rhinos voted for a bill and 40 people, let's call them the Freedom Caucus and Freedom Curious, if 40 Republicans voted against something and then a bunch of Democrats voted against it because they were more liberal than even the rhinos were, the conservative organizations like Turning Point USA, the Heritage, Freedom Works, Club for Growth.
[01:44:43]  They never said, oh, he voted with the Democrats.
[01:44:46]  They gave you a 100% score for being a conservative.
[01:44:49]  The only way for you to vote against John Boehner, and that was a former speaker for the people that don't remember, or for the only way for you to vote against a Paul Ryan Rhino bill was to be on the other side where the Democrats were voting.
[01:45:03]  Now, the Democrats would be voting no for other reasons.
[01:45:07]  And that's how you got those conservative credentials.
[01:45:10]  That's how I became the highest rated conservative member of Congress from Kentucky.
[01:45:16]  Bar none in the House of Representatives on the Turning Point USA card, on the Freedom Index, on the Club for Growth scorecards.
[01:45:26]  And you can look at all those scorecards.

=== John Paulson and Epstein (04:25) ===

[01:45:28]  It's still there.
[01:45:28]  I mean, for the people who think Turning Point is the gold standard, go look at how they score me.
[01:45:34]  I'm doing great.
[01:45:35]  I'm doing better than anybody in Kentucky on that scorecard.
[01:45:38]  Well, Charlie Kirk was a big supporter of yours as well.
[01:45:41]  And I do want to get to the local.
[01:45:44]  I want to get down to the local with you here in a minute because it's easy for us on social media now to kind of follow things at a national level.
[01:45:51]  But you're in Kentucky.
[01:45:53]  Not too many people know about local Kentucky politics and what's actually going on on the ground.
[01:45:58]  I want to get to that next.
[01:45:58]  But I got to ask you one question before I get there.
[01:46:02]  How much of this, what it is that you're going through politically right now, the attacks launched against you, Trump coming out against you, really the establishment now, the entire corrupt establishment, I view it, is coming against you.
[01:46:16]  How much of this do you believe is punishment for the Epstein Transparency Act?
[01:46:21]  From the donor class, It's a large portion of it.
[01:46:26]  I don't think that, because as you see, there's not really been any accountability in Washington, D.C. They've still been able to keep this swept under the rug.
[01:46:37]  But the Epstein class, they are not just for transgenders, they're transnational as well, right?
[01:46:44]  They fly jets, they've got visa waivers, they don't go through the same airport security as you and me, and they mingle with princes and prime ministers and ambassadors.
[01:46:56]  And they've got billions of dollars, and they're not particularly partisan or even ideological.
[01:47:02]  And so overseas, you see that the Prince of England has lost his title.
[01:47:09]  You see that the British ambassador to the United States, probably the most important link between two countries in the world, he was removed, arrested.
[01:47:18]  A former prime minister of Norway, minister of culture from France, the CEO of the World Economic Forum.
[01:47:25]  Can we just had to resign?
[01:47:27]  Because of the files that I got released.
[01:47:30]  Can we just pause right there?
[01:47:32]  The World Economic Forum used to be our arch nemesis.
[01:47:36]  If you were America first, if you were MAGA, you were against the people who said we're going to eat bugs and you'll own nothing and you'll be happy about it.
[01:47:45]  I took that guy out.
[01:47:47]  Where's the applause?
[01:47:49]  Right?
[01:47:49]  Like, that should be a front page article.
[01:47:52]  The guy that runs that organization, gone because of the Epstein files.
[01:47:57]  And so, is it?
[01:47:58]  Am I getting punished for that?
[01:48:00]  Oh, hell yeah.
[01:48:01]  These people like Miriam Adelson, Paul Singer, they might not have gone to Epstein Island, but they dine with these people.
[01:48:09]  So, for instance, John Paulson, he's one of the three billionaires that contributes to MAGA Kentucky, which is neither MAGA nor Kentucky.
[01:48:18]  These are people that are just as happy doing a fundraiser for Chuck Schumer and funding pro abortion Democrats for state Senate in Texas as they are giving money for a ballroom in Washington, D.C. That's just the price of admission for them to go to the balls and be among the Epstein class.
[01:48:35]  But let's talk about John Paulson.
[01:48:38]  Even before the Epstein files came out, he was in the Black Book.
[01:48:42]  This is an exclusive list of about 1,000 people for whom Epstein had private cell phone numbers.
[01:48:49]  And it doesn't imply that they're guilty, it just implies that Jeffrey Epstein could drop a dime and call him whenever he wanted.
[01:48:57]  And what we found out in the release of these files is that Howard Lutnick is a straight up liar.
[01:49:04]  To the American people.
[01:49:05]  That's our commerce secretary.
[01:49:06]  That's the guy on Air Force One that's behind Trump.
[01:49:08]  He's behind the resolute desk.
[01:49:11]  He's always standing there whispering in the president's ear.
[01:49:15]  He was on Epstein Island.
[01:49:17]  And he claimed he never was, that he had nothing to do with Epstein.
[01:49:21]  But Paul, you see, John Paulson, in the Epstein files, we see that he was throwing a ball, a recognition party for Howard Lutnick and asking Jeffrey Epstein for $50,000 and got it.
[01:49:36]  Jeffrey Epstein gave him the money.
[01:49:38]  He said, I don't even need to come.
[01:49:39]  Here's $50,000 to honor Howard Lutnick.
[01:49:43]  And he gave it to John Paulson.
[01:49:45]  This is, Owen, it's a very small world.
[01:49:49]  There's a.
[01:49:50]  Well, these were the same people that were fundraising for Hillary Clinton, too.

=== May 19th Campaign Attacks (15:55) ===

[01:49:53]  Correct.
[01:49:54]  They sure did.
[01:49:55]  They're the same people that gave to Liz Cheney after she voted to impeach Donald Trump.
[01:50:00]  Do you think these are his friends?
[01:50:02]  These are not his friends.
[01:50:04]  No.
[01:50:05]  They're interested in this race because.
[01:50:08]  I am the most vocal opponent to foreign aid.
[01:50:10]  I'm the most vocal opponent to wars, and they need the wars.
[01:50:15]  They want the foreign aid to keep flowing, and that's why they're against me.
[01:50:20]  And the guy I'm running against promises to rubber stamp all of that stuff.
[01:50:24]  He will be a total puppet for AIPAC.
[01:50:29]  Well, and it seems that that's where you have to be these days, especially if you want to be a Republican or even a right wing commentator.
[01:50:39]  If you don't want to support that cause, they come after you in the media just like they come after you in politics.
[01:50:44]  But let's get local.
[01:50:44]  Let's get to actually what's going on on the ground in Kentucky.
[01:50:48]  I don't know.
[01:50:48]  I know you've been busy.
[01:50:49]  You're voting and running the campaign right now.
[01:50:53]  So you're still fulfilling your congressional duties while running this campaign, which is now obviously a lot more intense than perhaps it.
[01:50:58]  Should be.
[01:50:59]  Yeah.
[01:51:00]  Ed did an event the other night.
[01:51:02]  And of course, this is after he's dodged debating you.
[01:51:05]  I don't know how many times, but how many times?
[01:51:08]  Eight.
[01:51:09]  Eight.
[01:51:09]  He's turned down eight debates and at least four of those went on without him.
[01:51:13]  And I showed up to name.
[01:51:15]  I saw you doing the ghost handshake at work with the.
[01:51:18]  Okay.
[01:51:18]  So he's dodged eight debates.
[01:51:20]  He has a local event the other night.
[01:51:22]  Somebody brings this up that he's dodging the debates and he has no answer.
[01:51:26]  He says, Oh, I'm debating Massey right now.
[01:51:28]  That's his response.
[01:51:30]  I look at the local media.
[01:51:31]  I look at, you know, local independent press that covers your campaign or Ed's campaign.
[01:51:37]  I look at local talk radio, you know, AM station.
[01:51:40]  It's more niche stuff, but these are the people that are actually boots on the ground that understand where things are going.
[01:51:44]  They all seem to be in your camp.
[01:51:46]  You are the incumbent.
[01:51:48]  You are favorable outside of, I guess, the DC swamp.
[01:51:53]  Is this race as close as they claim?
[01:51:55]  And I'm not trying to turn people off from supporting or getting out and voting for you, but I just feel like, I don't know, I feel like there's a lot of fake news out there about the actual support.
[01:52:04]  Support that you have locally?
[01:52:06]  Look, I think the most accurate is the betting markets.
[01:52:11]  And let's say the betting market, I don't know where I'm at on PolyMarket or CalShe right now, but if it's 60 40, that doesn't mean I'm up 20 points in the polls.
[01:52:22]  It means that the people that put their money where their mouth is think there's a 40% chance I'm going to lose on May 19th, right?
[01:52:29]  Like that's pretty darn sobering.
[01:52:32]  Our own polls show this is in the single digits.
[01:52:35]  Like the average of my last four polls shows me up low single digits.
[01:52:41]  And it's been pretty steady.
[01:52:43]  They've washed all the sand off the beach, but they're having a harder and harder time washing the rocks off.
[01:52:48]  They're going all in in this last week.
[01:52:51]  They're spending, they're adding to their spend.
[01:52:54]  Like usually you buy the entire week at the beginning of the week.
[01:52:57]  Well, during the week, they're adding money to their spend, but they're already over like three or four million dollars spending against me on TV in the last week.
[01:53:05]  Now, the good news is, I'm up to a million dollars of spending thanks to the money bomb.
[01:53:12]  And I'm adding to that tomorrow.
[01:53:14]  I'm going to add more money to that spend.
[01:53:17]  I don't want to, you know, my opponents are watching this TV and APAC's getting out their wallet.
[01:53:22]  So I don't want to say how much we're going to add to the spend tomorrow so that they can still front run.
[01:53:27]  Just like five cents.
[01:53:28]  So they can send a dollar bill down the line.
[01:53:32]  Yeah, we got 20 more dollars on the money bomb.
[01:53:34]  That's what we're going to add to it here tomorrow.
[01:53:38]  But look, dogs don't bark at parked cars.
[01:53:40]  If this weren't a close race, in other words, if I were running away with it, they would have stopped spending.
[01:53:48]  And if they were running away with it, they would have stopped spending.
[01:53:51]  It is a very tight race.
[01:53:53]  And everybody's all in.
[01:53:55]  Just when I thought nobody could push in more chips into the center of the table, APAC and RJC doubled down, Miriam Adelson doubled down, but our people doubled down online.
[01:54:07]  And in a money bomb, I thought I might raise $300,000 or $400,000.
[01:54:11]  We're over 2 million right now at massymoneybomb.com.
[01:54:15]  And that is, that's why we're still in this race.
[01:54:19]  And they just.
[01:54:20]  Those are all Americans, by the way.
[01:54:22]  Those are all Americans.
[01:54:23]  These are not foreign lobbyists.
[01:54:25]  These are not foreign donors.
[01:54:26]  And I think it's hilarious that they're running this attack on you.
[01:54:29]  They're like, well, look, Massey is getting donations from Texas and Florida.
[01:54:33]  Okay.
[01:54:33]  His opponent is getting $25 million from foreign countries.
[01:54:37]  Like, give me a break.
[01:54:38]  Yeah.
[01:54:40]  So let's examine those facts.
[01:54:42]  I've got well over 1,000 donors from Kentucky.
[01:54:45]  He's reported fewer than 100.
[01:54:49]  And then if you just look at the volume or the monetary value of the donations, His are like 2% from Kentucky.
[01:54:57]  Mine are like 5% from Kentucky.
[01:55:00]  So I've got, and then if you just looked at the overall value, I've probably in dollars, I've probably got five or 10 times as many Kentucky dollars as he has.
[01:55:09]  So they try to criticize me that way.
[01:55:11]  But I'm not offended that this has become a national race and that people would rather send me their money.
[01:55:20]  Conservatives would rather send money to me than to their own rhino congressman.
[01:55:26]  That's the ultimate compliment.
[01:55:28]  And I'm not offended when independents who were disenfranchised from the Republican Party, who left the Republican Party, and they send me money, I'm not offended by that because I'm trying to grow the tent.
[01:55:42]  I'm trying to bring more people in.
[01:55:43]  And I've told these people up here in Washington, D.C., what's going to happen if you are able to take me out in the 40% likelihood that Polly Market and Kalshi have that I lose?
[01:55:57]  If that happens, You have alienated about four or five factions of the Republican Party, the coalition that gave you the majority in the House, that gave you the White House.
[01:56:09]  You're taking out Maha.
[01:56:10]  You're telling them, we don't care about you.
[01:56:13]  You're taking out the 40% of Republicans who are tired of these endless wars.
[01:56:19]  Actually, I would say it's 80% who are tired of endless wars, but it's 40% who are sticking with that, even when we're doing our own war right now and it's not yet endless.
[01:56:31]  You're taking out the fiscal hawks who said, We got it, you know, the Doge coalition that's basically been run out of DC.
[01:56:39]  Okay.
[01:56:39]  You're telling them we don't need you.
[01:56:42]  You're taking out the privacy hawks, the First Amendment absolutists who, you know, and those cross parties, those are people who may be registered in other parties, but join the coalition.
[01:56:53]  You know, it's always supposed to be a nasty, dirty thing when you're bipartisan and you're running, you know, you've got bipartisan support for a bill like the Epstein files.
[01:57:03]  Oh, he works with Democrats.
[01:57:05]  They hate, they try to use that against you in a primary.
[01:57:08]  But boy, when it comes around to a general election, all these guys in tough districts, they become real bipartisans.
[01:57:14]  Well, that logic never holds up because it's never applied universally.
[01:57:18]  And they always pick and choose when it's okay to work with Democrats and when it's not.
[01:57:22]  Here's what I think the division is it's the uniparty versus the unity party.
[01:57:28]  And the unity party was exemplified in 2024 by Tulsi Gabbard, by Bobby Kennedy, by Joe Kent.
[01:57:39]  You know, by folks like that, by the fact that Donald Trump said he was going to pardon Ross Ulbricht, and he did.
[01:57:48]  That was one of the things that I got from Trump when I gave him my endorsement a promise to pardon Ross Ulbricht.
[01:57:56]  And he did hold true to his word on that.
[01:57:59]  But now we've seen kind of this drift towards central bank digital currency.
[01:58:05]  The things that we, again, that's another part of the coalition, right?
[01:58:08]  The Bitcoiners, the people that want sound money.
[01:58:11]  Are you telling them?
[01:58:13]  Nope, we're going to go with the deep state.
[01:58:15]  You brought us to the dance, but we're not dancing with you.
[01:58:18]  Unfortunately, these said groups are all out.
[01:58:21]  They're all out of MAGA right now.
[01:58:22]  The libertarians, I think it was, there's some debate about how many promises he made at that libertarian convention.
[01:58:29]  But the libertarians feel that he has broken most of those promises.
[01:58:32]  He did follow through with Ross, which is good.
[01:58:36]  You know, some things did happen, but it does feel like it's politics is normal.
[01:58:40]  It doesn't feel like the swamp is being drained.
[01:58:42]  It doesn't feel like the foreign interest, special interest money has been removed from the political process.
[01:58:47]  It seems like they have more power than ever, quite frankly.
[01:58:50]  And that's why I think people are so dazed and confused and disoriented and disenfranchised right now.
[01:58:55]  And then we see what's going on in your race.
[01:58:57]  And this is how I've been categorizing this, Representative Massey.
[01:59:01]  And I can hear the strain in your voice.
[01:59:03]  You're doing dozens of interviews.
[01:59:04]  You got a big event coming up, and I want you to be able to plug.
[01:59:09]  I got a cold from my granddaughter.
[01:59:11]  She last weekend had snot running down her cheeks, and I couldn't not pick her up.
[01:59:18]  I'm like, I know this is going to give me a cold in the last week of this campaign, but I'll take my grandbaby and the antibodies.
[01:59:25]  And a hoarse voice in the last week.
[01:59:28]  I love it.
[01:59:29]  I love it.
[01:59:29]  Well, you don't have to say that.
[01:59:30]  Just say you're campaigning so hard, you're going to lose your voice when it's all said and done.
[01:59:34]  I'll tell people that's the truth.
[01:59:36]  But no, the way I categorize this, and I'd like your final word before we let you go here.
[01:59:42]  The way I categorize this is that if they can successfully unseat Thomas Massey, then we don't have a Republican Party, we don't have a conservative movement, and there's no right wing in America.
[01:59:53]  There's just the Uniparty and the donor class.
[01:59:57]  And if you refuse to work with them and if you refuse to do their bidding as a Republican or a Democrat, quite frankly, but for this race, it's a Republican, then you're not allowed to exist.
[02:00:08]  And for Thomas Massey to win, that is a victory for conservatives.
[02:00:12]  That is a victory for America first.
[02:00:15]  That is a victory against the corrupt establishment, against the swamp, against the uniparty.
[02:00:21]  But if they can successfully unseat you with the donor class and foreign lobbies, there is no Republican party, there is no conservative movement.
[02:00:28]  There is no MAGA.
[02:00:29]  It's the same uniparty donor class that we were supposed to be fighting and defeating.
[02:00:34]  That's what this race represents to me, Thomas Massey.
[02:00:37]  It's all the marbles.
[02:00:38]  Everybody's pushed in all their chips.
[02:00:40]  This is the big race.
[02:00:42]  It's like we won't even need to have the other races, depending on the outcome of this race.
[02:00:47]  But let me put it in a positive light.
[02:00:49]  I think everything you said is accurate.
[02:00:51]  But what does it mean if I win?
[02:00:53]  Look, in this last push, when I leave here and go back to Kentucky, it turns out I've got three other congressmen that want to come and join me in the campaign.
[02:01:03]  And that's encouraging to me that we want to keep them as a special surprise when we get there Friday and Saturday.
[02:01:10]  And I've got two former congressmen who are going to join me.
[02:01:13]  And we're going to have a rally on Saturday when people can still vote.
[02:01:18]  And I have colleagues here who really want me to win because they will be emboldened.
[02:01:25]  They've got the right principles, right?
[02:01:27]  They're just waiting to see.
[02:01:29]  I've stuck my head up.
[02:01:30]  They're waiting to see if I get my head chopped off here.
[02:01:33]  And if I don't, they will be.
[02:01:36]  Uh, more empowered, they are good hearted, they believe in what they campaign on, they haven't become zombies.
[02:01:43]  And I'm and they are with me on things like the Epstein Files Transparency Act.
[02:01:47]  Some of these folks are with me on the War Powers Resolution, they're with me on a fighting central bank digital currency.
[02:01:54]  So, there are some good people still in Congress, and some of them are going to be there in Kentucky with me during this race.
[02:02:00]  More of them will be empowered to speak, and it won't require getting 20 more Thomas Masseys elected to Congress, they're already here.
[02:02:09]  They're just waiting to see if it's safe and if we can show you can pull this off.
[02:02:16]  And I won't pretend that any one of them could sustain this fight, right?
[02:02:21]  Like they know they don't have the national fundraising base.
[02:02:25]  But if, but if we do get, if they do feel empowered and there's a dozen or 20 of them who start voting more like me, then the enemy has to disperse its efforts across these individuals and we start winning.
[02:02:38]  And that's what this is about.
[02:02:40]  All the chips are in.
[02:02:41]  This is for all the marbles.
[02:02:43]  And it's all going to come down to one day.
[02:02:44]  It's a national election, it's a global election.
[02:02:47]  I have TV stations from Japan and Europe coming to my events.
[02:02:54]  And they will be at the main event on May 19th, which, ironically, I am a spiritual person.
[02:03:04]  I'm not superstitious, but my election day is a six month anniversary of passing the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which happened on November 19th.
[02:03:15]  And May 19th is my election.
[02:03:18]  And I am more spiritual after passing the Epstein Files Transparency Act, seeing the evil that was suppressed for two decades and four administrations.
[02:03:29]  And I think there are a lot of powers, good powers on our side.
[02:03:35]  Well, I love that angle.
[02:03:36]  And I do think to a certain degree, the other side of that is yes, the reason why they're making this the most expensive House primary ever is because they want that intimidation factor.
[02:03:48]  So that's another thing that your victory will represent.
[02:03:52]  It's victory over the intimidation, it's victory over the political establishment, it's victory over the donor class.
[02:03:58]  Because I think they knew this was going to be a long shot.
[02:04:01]  They knew that it was going to have to be a total propaganda campaign, but they put all the money into it to tell other Republicans, other conservatives hey, if you want this fight, Adelson and AIPAC is going to whip out their checkbook and they're going to pour $25 million in at the drop of a hat.
[02:04:16]  Good luck competing with that.
[02:04:17]  So I think a lot of that is a warning shot, and it's nice to see you standing on your principles.
[02:04:21]  It's nice to see America standing with you.
[02:04:23]  Where can people go to support your campaign, donate to your campaign, share information, be a part of what you're about to do in Kentucky?
[02:04:30]  Yeah, well, go to X, follow me on X. My official account is at Rep Thomas Massey, and my campaign account is at Massey for Kentucky, I think.
[02:04:43]  And that's the one I should be repeating here that's the one where you can donate.
[02:04:48]  And if you can't remember any of those, look for massymoneybomb.com.
[02:04:53]  That's where you need to go.
[02:04:55]  What's funny is I sit there, I watch that ticker.
[02:04:58]  Look, if I wake up at 3 a.m. before I get back to sleep, I look at the money bomb and I read the comments before I go back to sleep.
[02:05:05]  Is very encouraging.
[02:05:06]  There's a lot of positive reinforcement on that money bomb site, and um, we're using that money for phone calls to knock on doors to buy our last minute TV.
[02:05:18]  We can still buy radio and streaming up to the last day, so don't wonder, is it will it still matter at this point?
[02:05:27]  Is it too late to donate?
[02:05:28]  No, it's not too late to donate.
[02:05:30]  MasseyMoneyBob.com.
[02:05:32]  One thing that's funny the ticker goes up little bit by little bit, and then Once, about two or three times a day, we go look at all the people that donated to our original site, thomasmassy.comslash donate.
[02:05:45]  And we have to take that money and put it into the Money Bomb site.

=== Donating to Massey Now (15:07) ===

[02:05:48]  It kind of is like the people who get so excited, they don't find the Money Bomb site.
[02:05:53]  And so if you see the Money Bomb site jump up $50,000, it's not because somebody donated $50,000.
[02:05:59]  It's because we found $50,000 at the other link and that got lost and didn't go to the Money Bomb site.
[02:06:05]  So it's pretty exciting to watch that ticker go up and people.
[02:06:09]  If you could, do leave a comment.
[02:06:11]  I read those comments.
[02:06:13]  And because you have to donate something to the cause to leave a comment, it doesn't have all the negative crap, all the paid social media influencers that are taking foreign money to post bull crap.
[02:06:26]  So it's the best feed for inspiring me.
[02:06:29]  And I prefer to read it first.
[02:06:31]  Well, I'll tell you what, as a conservative movement, America First movement, however we want to categorize this, that really needs a morale boost badly.
[02:06:43]  Really needs a victory badly, feeling disenfranchised and in the dirt right now.
[02:06:47]  Thomas Massey winning this primary could be the injection of energy and hope and morale that this country, right wing conservatives, anti establishment people need.
[02:06:58]  And so we're pulling for you big.
[02:07:00]  We're pulling for you big.
[02:07:01]  God bless.
[02:07:02]  Godspeed.
[02:07:02]  We'll share those fundraising sites.
[02:07:04]  We'll continue to promote your campaign, help you in any way we possibly can.
[02:07:07]  And I'm telling you, I think we discussed pretty well what it represents.
[02:07:12]  And I'm glad.
[02:07:13]  I'm glad it's you.
[02:07:14]  I'm glad it's you, Thomas.
[02:07:16]  Well, you know, I'm not going to compromise my principles.
[02:07:19]  I never have.
[02:07:20]  You know, I've had plenty of opportunities over the years to make a deal and go along to get along.
[02:07:25]  I won't do it.
[02:07:27]  The job's important, but it doesn't become important if I'm not following the principles that I campaigned on.
[02:07:32]  So there'd be no reason for me to be here.
[02:07:34]  I think if there's hope to vote your way out of this, I will win.
[02:07:39]  And that's why I'm running, because I do think there's hope and I want to give other people hope.
[02:07:43]  That light map, that heat map that you showed of the United States where all the donors are coming from on the Massey Money Bomb site.
[02:07:51]  That shows me where I need to go when this race is over and do my thank you tour.
[02:07:56]  Where I see a big spot in Utah or somewhere in Washington state where I didn't know there were principal conservatives.
[02:08:02]  You know, I knew down in Texas there's three bright spots.
[02:08:05]  I've been to those three bright spots in Texas.
[02:08:07]  I've been to that bright spot in Georgia, but I'm seeing bright spots all over the country where there are principal people who are getting out $25 or $50 and donating and lighting up the map.
[02:08:18]  That tells me where I need to go and say thank you when this is all over.
[02:08:22]  Well, we're looking forward to following this as we're getting down to the wire.
[02:08:25]  This primary, we're looking forward to hopefully a very feel good moment, one that we need desperately right now.
[02:08:31]  We appreciate you.
[02:08:32]  God bless.
[02:08:32]  Godspeed, Representative Thomas Massey.
[02:08:34]  Thank you, Owen.
[02:08:35]  Thank you.
[02:08:37]  There you go, folks.
[02:08:38]  Probably the most conservative member of Congress, and right now, the most anti establishment, anti corrupt establishment person that you can go out and vote for.
[02:08:48]  So, very important stuff.
[02:08:50]  Glad that we could get that interview done today.
[02:08:52]  All right, without any hesitation, let's just jump to our next guest.
[02:08:55]  Natalie, who has been kindly sitting there silently, we were able to push her back a little bit.
[02:09:02]  Originally, we had her at five, but she kindly said, I'll wait for your interview to be over with Thomas Massey.
[02:09:07]  So she joins me now.
[02:09:08]  Oh, I'm glad to help Thomas Massey.
[02:09:11]  Yeah, anything for him.
[02:09:12]  Push me aside.
[02:09:13]  Absolutely.
[02:09:14]  This is an important race.
[02:09:16]  You actually got an exclusive on this race earlier where Thomas, and you know, all these things are always connected.
[02:09:24]  Natalie, you know this, you've been around for a while.
[02:09:26]  It's like, it's not a coincidence that Thomas Massey comes out and says, I'm going to make a bill to make APAC register as a foreign agent.
[02:09:35]  And then what happens?
[02:09:36]  Here comes the corrupt political establishment.
[02:09:38]  Here comes the allegations.
[02:09:39]  Here come the attacks.
[02:09:41]  I just, again, I just sit here and I'm like, this is what MAGA used to be able to identify and shut down.
[02:09:48]  Now it's MAGA running it.
[02:09:50]  Isn't it boring, though?
[02:09:52]  I'm so bored of it.
[02:09:53]  Like, oh, okay, allegations of what?
[02:09:57]  Fine.
[02:09:57]  You know, does it matter?
[02:09:59]  Does it matter when, you know, it had to do with Trump?
[02:10:02]  It doesn't matter anymore.
[02:10:03]  So stop it.
[02:10:04]  Do something new.
[02:10:06]  I don't know what.
[02:10:06]  I mean, I'm not challenging them.
[02:10:07]  I don't want to see antics.
[02:10:09]  Full stop.
[02:10:10]  Well, that's the conversation that I have when I just talk to, you know, just people out there in the social scenes, the places that I frequent.
[02:10:18]  They're not necessarily that political, but, you know, they have a general sense of things.
[02:10:23]  Yeah.
[02:10:24]  It seems that that's kind of where it's at.
[02:10:25]  It's like there was this excitement that things were going to be different.
[02:10:29]  That's excitement is all gone.
[02:10:32]  There was this idea that we had a chance to, you know, at least start to chip away at the political corruption and start to get this massive.
[02:10:42]  Government reform that we need, that hope is kind of gone.
[02:10:46]  And then there's this disenfranchisement, whether it's left or right, but on the right right now, there's this disenfranchisement where it's like, man, I went and I voted and I still don't get representation.
[02:10:57]  I still don't get what I vote for, no matter who it is.
[02:11:00]  That's what I hear.
[02:11:02]  That's what the conversations I have in my social circles.
[02:11:05]  That's how everybody is feeling right now.
[02:11:06]  What about you?
[02:11:07]  Yeah, definitely.
[02:11:08]  And people are just hip to the antics.
[02:11:11]  They know right away, they can smell it.
[02:11:12]  The press corps shooting.
[02:11:15]  People were like, what's that about?
[02:11:16]  You know, even just I had a social engagement after Charlie Kirk was shot.
[02:11:22]  And I don't bring things up in, you know, social circles, but there was a guy who I thought was a really nice person to talk to.
[02:11:28]  And he was like, they radicalized the kid.
[02:11:30]  The kid was on some kind of something.
[02:11:32]  And I was like, whoa, that's not even coming from me.
[02:11:35]  This is in polite conversation now.
[02:11:38]  I'm glad to see it.
[02:11:39]  I mean, the sky's the limit in terms of theories of who's manipulating what, you know, but I do still see.
[02:11:48]  You know, because I'm from California, I have California friends who will say, like, oh, they're still going to take our abortion rights.
[02:11:54]  And I'm like, dude, is it 2023?
[02:11:56]  Let's knock that off.
[02:11:58]  You know, let's talk about the actual rights that are being eroded rights to criticize foreign nations, rights to be critical of your politicians.
[02:12:07]  You know, these are the rights I'm worried about.
[02:12:09]  Like, it feels like skinny jeans talking about abortion rights, which, of course, don't even exist.
[02:12:16]  There is no right to an abortion.
[02:12:18]  Oh, I thought you meant skinny jeans.
[02:12:20]  They very much exist.
[02:12:22]  Yeah, but they're out.
[02:12:23]  You shouldn't be wearing skinny jeans anymore.
[02:12:26]  I'm not seeing the skinny jeans.
[02:12:28]  I don't know.
[02:12:28]  That ship has sailed.
[02:12:30]  Don't do it.
[02:12:31]  It's like that's where we're at here.
[02:12:35]  And there's this disconnect again.
[02:12:37]  It's like we felt like, and a lot of stuff happened in the first administration, but there felt like there was a connection, right?
[02:12:45]  There felt like there was finally a connection from the average American to the White House.
[02:12:49]  From the average American to the president, it felt like we had some representation.
[02:12:53]  We had some influence.
[02:12:55]  And, you know, not everything was perfect.
[02:12:57]  And maybe we had some issues, but it was like there was something there.
[02:13:00]  It's like there was something there.
[02:13:01]  There was some hope.
[02:13:02]  There was like, okay, we're going the right direction.
[02:13:07]  It's all turned on its head in the second administration.
[02:13:10]  And it's like the people that are fighting the hardest to stop the political corruption, they're the ones getting attacked the most again.
[02:13:18]  Yeah, it's discouraging because.
[02:13:21]  I thought, you know, the brand that is redacted is independent thinking.
[02:13:26]  It's things that once the Democrats stood for, and then all of a sudden we had endeared ourselves to conservatives.
[02:13:32]  We were more aligned with the right than we were with the left because we were anti war, free speech, and, you know, independent medical independence in terms of COVID.
[02:13:44]  Those are things that Democrats once stood for, but we stood for them when they were not.
[02:13:49]  Now, all of a sudden, you know, those are.
[02:13:54]  Earning us the title of liberals.
[02:13:56]  And, you know, we've alienated some of our audience that thought that we were Trumpers, that we were MAGA, that we would stand with the president.
[02:14:05]  And we don't stand for people.
[02:14:08]  We only stand for principles.
[02:14:10]  And, you know, these are principles that are things that I'm trying to teach my kids.
[02:14:14]  I cannot abandon them because I was inspired by a MAGA movement.
[02:14:18]  And I will say that I was.
[02:14:20]  I liked what MAGA meant to a lot of people.
[02:14:23]  I think it meant rejecting the trans agenda, rejecting the sort of sexual perversions of the Biden administration, rejecting the idea of, you know, a gay man with boobs on the White House, you know, the idea of, Taking your children if you don't use their pronouns, the idea, all of that were things that were a massive rejection.
[02:14:44]  And they said, we want to be families.
[02:14:46]  We want to be able to speak, you know, see a boy and say that that's a boy.
[02:14:52]  You know, these were culture wars, I grant you.
[02:14:55]  But, you know, Democrats started, they supported the destruction of Gaza.
[02:15:01]  Most of that happened on their watch.
[02:15:02]  We didn't think that Trump was really going to stop it.
[02:15:05]  I did think that Trump would make more headway in the war in Ukraine.
[02:15:09]  So that one's on me.
[02:15:11]  Well, he said he would stop at day one.
[02:15:13]  So he said that.
[02:15:15]  He did.
[02:15:16]  He did.
[02:15:16]  And, but in the debates, I remember feeling so discouraged because he was using the same language of Putin's unprovoked war as the Democrats were.
[02:15:25]  But he just said, I'll stop it because I've got a good relationship with him.
[02:15:28]  That's, those are still lies.
[02:15:30]  He was still explaining the war through lies.
[02:15:33]  And it just felt like, you know, okay, it's a uniparty.
[02:15:36]  So, you know, I had at least, I thought that I would be breadcrumbed for some desires.
[02:15:44]  You know, from the White House.
[02:15:46]  And I don't think we're even getting that.
[02:15:49]  No, I would say right now, this is as neocon as the Bush administration.
[02:15:54]  Yeah.
[02:15:54]  The only thing that they can claim, and I guess, you know, I guess it's a fair claim, but I may, you know, a little premature is, oh, well, the war's only been going on for six weeks.
[02:16:04]  So, okay, I guess, yeah, it hasn't gone on for six years.
[02:16:08]  But even when they make that argument, you know, this is what's so crazy now, Natalie.
[02:16:12]  And I'm, and I know that you guys over at Redacted kind of deal with the same issues here.
[02:16:16]  It's like, hey, I don't mind political disagreements.
[02:16:20]  I don't expect everybody to agree with me on all the issues or policy direction and stuff like that.
[02:16:26]  But I do expect logical consistency.
[02:16:29]  That's what I want.
[02:16:30]  I want honesty and I want consistency.
[02:16:33]  And if you can't be honest or consistent in your logic, then to me, you're no good.
[02:16:37]  You're either a conscious liar, a propagandist, or really, you're just, quite frankly, too dumb to engage in a serious political discussion.
[02:16:46]  And this is a perfect example.
[02:16:47]  So, when you get into these debates about the war, And they have this defense and they say, well, this isn't a new war or this isn't a never ending war.
[02:16:56]  You know, it's only six weeks.
[02:16:58]  Eventually, you get to the point where they argue it's not even a war.
[02:17:01]  Yeah.
[02:17:01]  It's just like, what are we doing here?
[02:17:03]  It's like, when did you guys decide to do these mental gymnastics to support a politician?
[02:17:09]  It's like, that's what's so alien to me.
[02:17:12]  And it's like, they're the ones that look alien here, not us.
[02:17:17]  Right.
[02:17:17]  And we had Anna Kasparian on the show the other day.
[02:17:20]  And, you know, when Trump.
[02:17:21]  Toutes this, you can't vote for the Democrats because Obama chooses Iran over Israel.
[02:17:28]  And I thought to myself, I do too.
[02:17:31]  I'd rather do business with those guys than those guys.
[02:17:34]  I don't want to do business with the guys who just raised an entire civilization in Gaza, the guys who, you know, take all of this land in the West Bank, separate a mom and a kid while they have to.
[02:17:43]  Like, yeah, I kind of would make that choice too.
[02:17:46]  Now, that doesn't mean that I think Iran is perfect or that they are our best bedfellows or that I support the current government.
[02:17:54]  It's just that at this point, Is that a talking point that's going to win?
[02:17:58]  That the Democrats support Iran?
[02:18:01]  I mean, what does that even mean?
[02:18:03]  We should have had logical diplomacy with Iran decades ago.
[02:18:08]  But if you look at Obama, he was not good to Iran.
[02:18:11]  I mean, he put sanctions on them that crippled their economy.
[02:18:16]  He launched the world's first cyber weapon on them.
[02:18:21]  He ignored diplomacy when Ahmadinejad sent him letters.
[02:18:25]  So, like, what are we doing here?
[02:18:27]  This is a continuation.
[02:18:29]  I get the feeling that Obama learned the same thing that Trump learned.
[02:18:33]  Which is, you can get into the White House and maybe you've got your own ideas about foreign policy.
[02:18:38]  Maybe even you've got your own hopes and goals for the Middle East to be the one president that can finally get it figured out.
[02:18:45]  And eventually the powers that be come down on you and you just get totally rejected.
[02:18:50]  That's generous, though.
[02:18:51]  I mean, do you have agency or don't you?
[02:18:54]  You know, at some point, I would say no.
[02:18:58]  Right.
[02:18:58]  So who does?
[02:19:00]  I mean, we're giving them an excuse, which I'm just not sure how much I want to do.
[02:19:06]  Well, we're not in the business of excuse making, but it seems like that's what the business of MAGA is now.
[02:19:12]  Yeah.
[02:19:13]  Yeah.
[02:19:15]  You know, and I don't want to be cruel, but it's like.
[02:19:20]  But they're cruel.
[02:19:22]  Yeah.
[02:19:23]  I mean, a lot of it is cruel.
[02:19:24]  You know, I understand.
[02:19:27]  Maybe, I don't know.
[02:19:29]  I'm somebody who's always willing to break down my paradigms, always.
[02:19:33]  I don't ever dig in on a belief system.
[02:19:36]  Because I read a lot and I'm like, okay, I was wrong about that.
[02:19:39]  So maybe that's a key to breaking your hero worship.
[02:19:44]  Something David Icke said recently on his podcast is don't worship people, worship ideas.
[02:19:50]  Think for yourself, right?
[02:19:51]  You can't have loyalty.
[02:19:52]  How many times are you on X and you're like, wait, this person that I really liked is now a Zionist?
[02:19:57]  How, what?
[02:19:58]  How, now I'm lost again.
[02:20:00]  You can't find yourself in that position anymore where someone says something you think they wouldn't otherwise say.
[02:20:07]  Just engage with the ideas.
[02:20:09]  We have to stop that.
[02:20:10]  Yeah.
[02:20:11]  Well, and I don't think that that's what's happening.
[02:20:13]  I think that it's loyalty.
[02:20:15]  They just want blind loyalty.
[02:20:16]  They want you to be loyal to a man, and they really don't care about issues, policies, promises.
[02:20:22]  It's just you have to be loyal to a man, you have to trust a politician, and that's just totally foreign, which I don't understand how any American, quite frankly, can have that mindset after everything we've witnessed politically.
[02:20:33]  To any politician, right.
[02:20:35]  Right.
[02:20:36]  Yeah.
[02:20:37]  It's so crazy that that's where we're at in 2026.
[02:20:41]  Yes, but you see the numbers dropping for Trump's approval rating.
[02:20:45]  So I think that there are, if we're really giving out grades for independent thinking, there are more independent thinkers who are on the right than are on the left.

=== Trump Derangement Syndrome (14:57) ===

[02:20:56]  You did not see this fallout for Joe Biden, despite everything that he had done, which I think was a hellscape.
[02:21:02]  That is true.
[02:21:04]  And, you know, you bring up having Anna Kasparian on.
[02:21:07]  And I think that this is where there's like this disconnect.
[02:21:10]  And I'll even play into their own ideology as far as.
[02:21:14]  Hey, you know, you can't talk to Anna Kasparian or whatever.
[02:21:16]  And I would say, well, how about like this?
[02:21:18]  How about let me present it to you like this Anna Kasparian now looks more reasonable and logical and fair and balanced than MAGA.
[02:21:27]  That's where we're at.
[02:21:29]  So if you really think Anna Kasparian is some radical this, radical that lunatic, well, you as a Trump cultist, you now look worse than she does.
[02:21:39]  That's where we're at.
[02:21:41]  Right.
[02:21:42]  Well, she was one of the few to break with the Democrats over the Biden administration.
[02:21:47]  And there were very few like her because Democrats do that far less.
[02:21:53]  And, you know, I think you have to be willing to break with whatever you aligned yourself to.
[02:22:01]  You know, for me, again, my hopes for breaking the Israel lobby were really low when it came to the Trump administration.
[02:22:11]  I did not think they would do it, I just didn't think it would be this bad.
[02:22:15]  At least the Biden administration kind of tiptoed around it, you know, like, and it was all I mean, it's a constant assault on our psyche.
[02:22:24]  To see Israel taking over Lebanon, to see what they've done in Gaza, to see them moving in on the West Bank.
[02:22:29]  It's horrible.
[02:22:30]  And we have to just watch it knowing that there's nothing that we can do about it and we are paying for it.
[02:22:36]  And so I thought, like, you know, every time, what was his name?
[02:22:40]  The vampire looking one who was the press secretary for, is it not Jake Sullivan, for the Biden administration?
[02:22:46]  For the.
[02:22:48]  I think it was.
[02:22:48]  He's got, no, it's not Jake Sullivan.
[02:22:51]  It was the other guy.
[02:22:53]  I can't, anyway.
[02:22:54]  Every time he was asked about, like, hey, can we stop.
[02:22:58]  The genocide in Gaza, he would give some kind of BS answer during the Biden administration.
[02:23:03]  I was like, I cannot take this anymore, but we have it.
[02:23:07]  You know, that's what we have it.
[02:23:09]  Well, in the gaslighting, it's like, look, this is no endorsement of Iran.
[02:23:13]  Let me be perfectly clear since we have to put these prerequisites out there now.
[02:23:16]  This is no endorsement of Iran, not at all.
[02:23:19]  But I'm not going to be sit here and gaslit and be told that Iran is the biggest terror state as we're watching Israel bomb seven different countries, kill hundreds of thousands of people, including innocent women and children.
[02:23:30]  I'm sorry.
[02:23:31]  You're not going to gaslight me into thinking Iran is the only evil in the Middle East as we're all watching Israel commit the most heinous evil in the Middle East.
[02:23:40]  And it's like that's what they're trying to gaslight us on right now.
[02:23:43]  And if you're a principled conservative, liberal, wherever, and you just look at it for what it is and you reject that, the entire political establishment tries to come down on you, specifically right now in the right, since that's who's in power.
[02:23:54]  And we're starting to see the deterioration.
[02:23:56]  And I want to get to the midterms coming up, but we're starting to see the deterioration.
[02:24:00]  Here's, let me give you an example.
[02:24:02]  Scott Jennings was like, he was on fire on CNN, right?
[02:24:06]  Scott Jennings, the right wing voice on CNN.
[02:24:09]  During the Obama years, you mean?
[02:24:10]  Well, more recently during the Biden years and then in kind of the first months of the Trump administration, you know, Scott Jennings, his political public commentary profile was on fire.
[02:24:22]  He was on the rise.
[02:24:23]  And now he's in this position of being forced to defend Israel.
[02:24:27]  He's in this position of being forced to defend this intervention in the Middle East.
[02:24:31]  And now he's getting trounced.
[02:24:33]  Now he's getting trounced.
[02:24:34]  He's got the left wingers pinning him and making him tap out almost every show now.
[02:24:39]  And it's like, how do the Republicans not see this?
[02:24:43]  This is your Achilles heel.
[02:24:45]  This is your trans kids moment.
[02:24:47]  This is your losing issue.
[02:24:48]  It's like, how do they not see it?
[02:24:51]  Yeah.
[02:24:52]  And it's just, it's inconsistent.
[02:24:57]  It's morally inconsistent.
[02:24:59]  And that is the only thing that we can rest our laurels on is, you know, are you morally consistent?
[02:25:05]  Are you willing to.
[02:25:07]  You know, I, yeah, I can't answer for that.
[02:25:10]  Um, but I don't think I what do you think about the midterms?
[02:25:14]  You know, there's a lot of rhetoric out there, and there are some people that maybe were Trump supporters or might be on the right wing and they're telling people to vote Democrat or whatever.
[02:25:23]  Um, I'm looking at it from a different angle, I don't really think it matters.
[02:25:28]  You know, this is kind of what happened after 2024, where in 2016, yeah, Trump needed the independent media.
[02:25:36]  In 2016, he was running against the Republican establishment, he was running against the neocons.
[02:25:41]  We all saw what happened.
[02:25:42]  And in those moments, Trump needed the Owen Shroyers.
[02:25:46]  He needed the InfoWars.
[02:25:47]  He needed the Natalie Morris's, the redacted.
[02:25:50]  Trump needed that to get through the primaries and defeat Hillary Clinton.
[02:25:54]  So that was like we had a much bigger role in getting Trump in in 2016.
[02:26:00]  Well, when 2024 came around, it was entirely different.
[02:26:03]  It was Kamala Harris and Biden were such a disaster.
[02:26:07]  People were going to vote for Republicans.
[02:26:09]  Trump was now part of the Republican Party.
[02:26:11]  He was the head of the Republican Party.
[02:26:12]  It didn't matter whether I supported Trump or not, he was going to get the nomination, he was going to win the election.
[02:26:17]  And so it was a different paradigm from 2016.
[02:26:21]  To 2024.
[02:26:22]  So, how does this translate to the midterms?
[02:26:24]  Because where I'm at, I'm like, I don't think I could ever vote Democrat.
[02:26:27]  There's no Democrats I like.
[02:26:29]  I've never voted Democrat.
[02:26:30]  I'm not going to tell anybody to vote Democrat, but I'm so disenfranchised.
[02:26:34]  I'm so disenfranchised with Republicans.
[02:26:37]  I just feel like if I go vote for a Republican in the midterms, then I'm a slave.
[02:26:41]  If I go vote for the Republicans in the midterms, I'm a cuck.
[02:26:44]  I'm untrue to myself.
[02:26:45]  I'm unloyal to myself.
[02:26:47]  And I'm not voting for anything that's going to benefit me.
[02:26:49]  So, it's this weird catch 22.
[02:26:50]  It's like, I don't want Democrats in power, but I don't want to be a slave to the Republicans that treat me like a, you know, in an abusive relationship, especially if Paxton's not on the ballot.
[02:27:00]  I don't know any reason why I would go vote in the midterms if Ken Paxton is not on the ballot.
[02:27:05]  Yeah, I don't know.
[02:27:06]  I mean, what do we do?
[02:27:09]  I've thought about this a lot.
[02:27:11]  I'm just going to make little stickers with the middle finger emoji and put them all over my ballot because I can't.
[02:27:17]  I don't know.
[02:27:18]  I can't, you know?
[02:27:20]  And I think that.
[02:27:22]  I guess, you know, again, there were questions about Trump that I had to set aside in order to vote for Trump, but I felt really strongly about voting against the Democrats.
[02:27:32]  And for me, it was the first time to vote against the Democrat.
[02:27:36]  And so, you know, I sort of put those caveats aside in order to do it once.
[02:27:41]  Can I do that again?
[02:27:44]  Given the fact that, I mean, we murdered 180 girls, it's not a big enough part of the conversation.
[02:27:54]  We, you know, in the same way that was it the 80s or the 90s, we shot down an Iranian civilian airplane and never apologized for it, you know.
[02:28:05]  And I don't think we need to make this caveat about we're not for Iran.
[02:28:09]  Iran has been actually trying sincerely diplomatic outreach since the 70s.
[02:28:15]  And each one of our presidents has done them dirty in response to that.
[02:28:20]  Like Putin in the 90s, by the way.
[02:28:22]  Same.
[02:28:22]  Yeah, same.
[02:28:23]  And I don't have to apologize for saying like Putin's made sincere outreach.
[02:28:29]  At diplomacy.
[02:28:30]  And it's us that acts like a dick.
[02:28:33]  It's not them.
[02:28:34]  And we could have had this in a peaceful way a long time ago.
[02:28:39]  Do I care if Iran gets a nuclear weapon?
[02:28:41]  I do not.
[02:28:42]  Not even a little bit.
[02:28:43]  Like, if they had one, we wouldn't be doing this, right?
[02:28:47]  They have Sharia law that prevents them from using it.
[02:28:50]  It doesn't bother me.
[02:28:53]  And why can we look the other way at Israel's nuclear weapon when it was literally stolen from us?
[02:28:58]  So, yeah, these are not things that I am willing to engage on in any form or fashion.
[02:29:04]  And I'm certainly not going to engage with the Lululemon Iranian expat crowd about the fact that we need to be the saviors.
[02:29:12]  They clearly haven't studied what we've done to them in the last four decades.
[02:29:16]  And by the way, when it comes to the theft of the nuclear capabilities that was stolen and given to Israel, the right wing embraces the individuals that were responsible for that.
[02:29:28]  They clearly embrace individuals that ran those operations.
[02:29:32]  It's.
[02:29:33]  It's really the strangest thing.
[02:29:34]  And I don't know, again, I guess I'm a little more, I guess I'm a little more, I don't know if I would say extreme than you, but I put my neck out there quite a bit with my controversial opinions.
[02:29:46]  And what I've noticed recently is they come after me.
[02:29:50]  Like I just did that report for the O'Keeffe Media Group.
[02:29:53]  They're coming after James O'Keeffe now.
[02:29:55]  And they say, well, gee, Owen, how can you support the Democrats that called you a Nazi?
[02:30:01]  How can you support the Democrats that did this and that?
[02:30:03]  And I'm sitting here saying, hey, guys, you're doing that to me now.
[02:30:08]  I'm not getting that from the left.
[02:30:10]  I don't have leftists in my comments all the time, insulting me, lying about me, calling me names.
[02:30:16]  It's all right wingers.
[02:30:17]  It's all MAGA.
[02:30:17]  They're like, how can you vote for Democrats?
[02:30:19]  They called you Nazi.
[02:30:20]  No, you're the ones calling me a Nazi now.
[02:30:23]  So there's this crazy disconnect, and they really think they just own your vote.
[02:30:26]  And I guess that's my issue.
[02:30:28]  Maybe they're bots.
[02:30:29]  Do you think that people in real life feel this way?
[02:30:32]  Oh, yeah.
[02:30:33]  Some of them I know are real because I've met them.
[02:30:35]  Some of them are even, I guess I would say, former friends of mine now.
[02:30:38]  They're just total Trump cultists now.
[02:30:40]  And again, it's like, oh, you're a.
[02:30:42]  This is why I don't have friends.
[02:30:44]  Bots don't make friends.
[02:30:46]  You got to have some friends.
[02:30:47]  You got to have a little bit at least.
[02:30:48]  But it's like, can they show you a policy?
[02:30:51]  It's like, What policy do I support that's liberal?
[02:30:54]  What policy do I support that's Democrat?
[02:30:56]  You can't show me a single one.
[02:30:58]  This is just your new ad hominem attack because I'm not part of your cult.
[02:31:02]  Right.
[02:31:02]  And I don't like being called Trump derangement syndrome because I feel like it's a bit sexist.
[02:31:09]  It's a way to tell a woman she's being hysterical.
[02:31:12]  I don't have Trump derangement syndrome.
[02:31:14]  If he reverses policies and pulls us out of Iran and removes foreign influence on our politics, I will, you know, be happy to call him a good dude.
[02:31:27]  Like, it has nothing to do with him personally.
[02:31:29]  I did have Trump derangement syndrome when I was a liberal, but I don't have it now.
[02:31:33]  I'm fine with Trump as a man, but I don't.
[02:31:37]  That bothers me.
[02:31:39]  Most of it doesn't bother me when people, you know, say dumb shit to me on X.
[02:31:44]  The stuff that bothers me the most, yeah, Trump derangement syndrome bothers me.
[02:31:47]  And then when people say, like, oh, she's just like this because of her conservative husband, that bothers me too.
[02:31:52]  I find both of those things kind of sexist.
[02:31:54]  Like, I don't have my own opinions in life.
[02:31:56]  I just.
[02:31:57]  Swallow up my own.
[02:31:58]  You know, I am, yeah, confessing.
[02:32:02]  You've got right wing politics, you've got left wing politics, and then you have, I think, the majority of Americans that are somewhere in the middle and just kind of maybe swing with their vote because no matter who gets into office, they're all corrupt.
[02:32:14]  And so they go the other way, then they go vote the other way, and then they go vote the other way.
[02:32:19]  And the one thing that I think is not properly discussed right now on the right wing, I think they're totally not even misinterpreting this.
[02:32:27]  I don't even think they're interpreting this at all.
[02:32:30]  I don't believe today, as we have this discussion, that the American right has the moral high ground anymore.
[02:32:36]  I think that the first year and a half of the Trump administration, the moral high ground that the American right had, the conservative right had, even maybe at large, the Republican Party, I think it's all gone.
[02:32:46]  I think we have spent all of our moral high ground capital on this awful foreign policy, the war in Iran, backing Israel and everything that they're doing, gaslighting the American people about what's happening domestically.
[02:32:59]  The right wing no longer has the moral high ground, and they're still operating as if they do.
[02:33:04]  And it's like, guys, you don't understand.
[02:33:06]  You do not have the moral high ground anymore.
[02:33:09]  When you want to come out and say, oh, look at this artist who said F. Trump, it doesn't matter anymore.
[02:33:13]  You're not coming from the high ground anymore.
[02:33:15]  You're just as in the dirt as they are now.
[02:33:18]  Yeah, you're right.
[02:33:19]  And who does it matter the most for?
[02:33:23]  Obviously, civilians who were attacked abroad, but we've been doing that for decades.
[02:33:27]  You know, Obama killed more people abroad than Bush did.
[02:33:31]  And, you know, it was horrible.
[02:33:33]  But the American working class, you know, that really had this idea.
[02:33:38]  That life would be easier for them because Democrats were no longer perverting the economy for the war in Ukraine.
[02:33:44]  And then they get it worse with a war in Iran, an additional war, not just fewer wars, but more.
[02:33:49]  And, you know, one thing that I really want to make sure that I never am is elitist in terms of my politics.
[02:34:00]  And now Republicans are that.
[02:34:02]  Yeah, 100%.
[02:34:04]  And you look at, and look, I'm not even, you know, Trump taking that delegation of, you know, the billionaire industrialists that for a while they've sold out America to China.
[02:34:16]  It's ironic that he takes that.
[02:34:18]  I don't even look, I actually look at that as a good strategy, quite frankly.
[02:34:22]  I kind of think I understand what Trump is doing, you know, showing up in China with all these industrialists that have kind of sold America out to China.
[02:34:29]  But it's like, okay, maybe this is a presentation of they're with us now.
[02:34:32]  Let's put some pressure on it.
[02:34:34]  I'd like to think that's what's going on.
[02:34:35]  Maybe that's some hopium.
[02:34:37]  I guess the negative side of that would be they're just all scheming about how they're just going to continue to get more rich and the rest of us are going to get more poor.
[02:34:43]  We'll see what comes out of these negotiations.
[02:34:47]  But you get back to the kind of elitist angle of it all.
[02:34:51]  Let me rephrase that.
[02:34:52]  To me, this is a globalist operation now.
[02:34:55]  Trump is a pure globalist when it comes to foreign policy and when it comes to the people that he's working with as well.
[02:35:03]  I mean, this is a globalist administration now.
[02:35:06]  Trump doesn't talk about nationalism, not globalism will be our credo.
[02:35:10]  He doesn't say that anymore.
[02:35:12]  This is a globalist operation now.
[02:35:14]  Yeah, I suppose you could see it that way.
[02:35:16]  And then again, what is the reverberation on the working class?
[02:35:20]  You know, AI will largely replace women.
[02:35:24]  In the workforce, specifically women that were sold down the river by feminism.
[02:35:29]  And then where will they be?
[02:35:30]  They won't have much.
[02:35:33]  It's specifically women who cannot pivot in these sort of secretarial jobs or administrative jobs.
[02:35:40]  The people who, the working class, yeah, I just don't know.
[02:35:44]  I mean, I'd love to talk to an economist about that, but what does that mean for the rest of us?
[02:35:49]  Because it's clearly not for most of us.

=== AI Impact on Working Class (11:08) ===

[02:35:53]  I don't think they really know.
[02:35:55]  To be honest, I don't think any of us really know what this is going to be.
[02:35:59]  We've never, there's nothing like this in human history, right?
[02:36:02]  Yeah.
[02:36:03]  But I do think it would be a fair assumption to say that when they're deciding how they're going to roll this whole AI data center quantum computing singularity out, they're not thinking about you and I. They're not thinking about the middle class.
[02:36:17]  They're not thinking about poor Americans.
[02:36:19]  They're only thinking about themselves.
[02:36:21]  I do think that that is fair to say.
[02:36:23]  But as far as what is going to happen to the economy and the working class, I really don't think we know.
[02:36:28]  It would seem that this is going to replace the working class.
[02:36:31]  I mean, face value, I think that that's kind of an easy assumption to make, but maybe we really don't know.
[02:36:36]  And yet, there's no breaks to this.
[02:36:40]  And not many people are talking about it.
[02:36:42]  I know that you guys talk about it at Redacted.
[02:36:44]  I make a big fuss about this right now.
[02:36:46]  I think you can strip away most of these issues right now.
[02:36:49]  I think strip away the foreign policy issues, strip away the domestic issues.
[02:36:54]  What they're building right now, or what they're trying to build, is an AI surveillance state.
[02:36:59]  Absolutely.
[02:37:00]  They are building Skynet right now, and they're trying to convince us it's a good thing, Natalie.
[02:37:06]  Yeah.
[02:37:07]  Like, you know, we watched Terminator with our kids recently, and we're like, Jesus, this was so prescient.
[02:37:13]  Like, we have to take the warning.
[02:37:15]  This is happening now.
[02:37:17]  How could they have written this movie 30 years ago?
[02:37:20]  And absolutely, the surveillance state is coming for us.
[02:37:25]  Absolutely.
[02:37:26]  Well, and there's just, I don't see the resistance.
[02:37:30]  I'm like, Where is the voice at the table when we're talking about AI or these data centers?
[02:37:36]  Where is the voice at the table that is a hard no?
[02:37:39]  It's like, well, there are movements.
[02:37:41]  The problem is, and again, it feels purposeful, is that how do we focus our attention on any one priority?
[02:37:50]  You know, the war, ending the war, is important because we have human souls and we don't want to kill young girls.
[02:37:57]  It's also important because it's a theft from the working class, because it devalues the U.S. dollar, because it makes life harder for American families.
[02:38:06]  Then there's this idea of getting fluoride out of our water, you know, big pharma out of our schools.
[02:38:11]  That, like, how do you?
[02:38:13]  Focus yourself.
[02:38:14]  I think about this all the time.
[02:38:15]  It's like we broadcast on so many different important issues, and you know, we all have, there's just not enough outrage to go around for all of it.
[02:38:26]  And I don't, and I do think that that's purposeful.
[02:38:31]  Well, I would like to see a symposium and not just something from the people.
[02:38:38]  I mean, like, this needs to come from the administration, this needs to come from the billionaire class that is investing in these data centers.
[02:38:45]  There needs to be a public conversation, and it's simply not happening.
[02:38:49]  And you know what?
[02:38:49]  If you want to have somebody at the table, and I'm going to play this clip because Tucker Carlson and Kevin O'Leary had the debate.
[02:38:55]  I don't know if you saw it.
[02:38:56]  This is the debate that needs to be had.
[02:38:58]  But it's like, I want somebody at the table that is a hard no on AI, a hard no on data centers.
[02:39:03]  And I want somebody on the table that's a full affirmative yes on both of these issues.
[02:39:08]  And I want to see this conversation go public because the only resistance that we have right now to this Skynet that they're building is at the local level.
[02:39:17]  But you know what?
[02:39:18]  Elon Musk proposed exactly that symposium during the Biden administration and everyone laughed at him.
[02:39:24]  So, you know, there have been efforts for that.
[02:39:29]  Yeah.
[02:39:29]  But it's not, but see, but that tells me that the people that are setting themselves up to make trillions of dollars on this operation, they don't want it to happen.
[02:39:37]  Possibly.
[02:39:38]  If even he can't make it happen, you know, who's at, yeah, you're right.
[02:39:43]  Who's at the table?
[02:39:44]  Who's having the conversation?
[02:39:45]  We're just doing it because we can.
[02:39:48]  You know, I get a lot of trouble for this, and I'm curious where you stand on this.
[02:39:52]  I get a lot of trouble because I kind of do a running approval rating for Elon Musk.
[02:39:58]  Oh.
[02:39:59]  And it's remained over 50 for quite some time.
[02:40:01]  I probably have Elon Musk like 53, 54 approval right now.
[02:40:06]  So he's on the positive side of the spectrum.
[02:40:07]  I get a lot of hate.
[02:40:08]  People don't like Elon Musk, and I kind of look at it from a different angle because people just want to lump him into the billionaire class and the elite class, and maybe that's fair.
[02:40:19]  The reason why I look at Elon differently is well, really, two reasons.
[02:40:23]  I think that Elon, unlike the rest of it or the most of them, I think Elon actually cares about humanity.
[02:40:30]  I do.
[02:40:31]  I think that Elon actually has some connection to humanity and has some love and appreciation for the beauty of humanity, where the rest of them seem, they just feel like throw it away.
[02:40:40]  We don't really care.
[02:40:42]  And I feel it's important whether you like Elon Musk or not that we just, we need him in there.
[02:40:47]  He might be the only one of this senti billionaire.
[02:40:50]  Class that actually feels any connection left to humanity and doesn't want to just flush it down the table.
[02:40:55]  And two, the other thing that Elon has made public statements about, too, he basically is saying, Look, I'm not into AI.
[02:41:04]  I'm not even into social media.
[02:41:06]  The only reason why I'm investing in these industries is because everyone else that does it hates you.
[02:41:13]  Everyone who invests in these industries hates you and hates the planet and hates humanity.
[02:41:17]  So it's like, I'm not into this stuff, but I have to invest because I'm the only one that doesn't hate you.
[02:41:21]  So that's kind of my interpretation of Elon Musk right now.
[02:41:24]  Do you agree or disagree?
[02:41:25]  Actually, I do.
[02:41:26]  Yeah, I was really disappointed when he broke with the White House over Doge.
[02:41:30]  I thought that he was well intended.
[02:41:33]  Yeah, I'm with you on that one.
[02:41:36]  I don't have a hatred for Elon Musk.
[02:41:38]  Last night I was walking through a parking lot and someone had a Tesla that said, I bought this before Elon went crazy.
[02:41:43]  And I was like, what a fucking stupid thing to do.
[02:41:45]  That's stupid.
[02:41:46]  Take that off.
[02:41:47]  Yeah, nobody said that those people got any brighter in the last four years.
[02:41:52]  Yeah.
[02:41:53]  I don't have patience for that kind of thing.
[02:41:55]  Like, that's an old argument.
[02:41:56]  Come on.
[02:41:57]  Let's, you know, we're killing people now.
[02:41:59]  Like, let's all focus there.
[02:42:01]  I don't want to talk about abortion.
[02:42:02]  Don't bore me with that.
[02:42:03]  I don't want to talk about, you know, boys and girls sports.
[02:42:06]  Like, this is a lot more.
[02:42:08]  I'm like, I don't understand why April 8th is not October 7th.
[02:42:13]  That was horrid, what happened on April 8th in Lebanon.
[02:42:17]  Why is that not branded in our consciousness as a horrible, horrible day?
[02:42:25]  It's just not.
[02:42:25]  It's just gone.
[02:42:26]  Who's even talking about Lebanon?
[02:42:28]  I mean, nobody's even talking about it.
[02:42:30]  Yeah.
[02:42:31]  I don't understand it.
[02:42:32]  Like, April 8th needs to have the same amount of awareness and revulsion as October 7th, and it doesn't.
[02:42:41]  Well, you know why.
[02:42:42]  Yes, I know why, but I mean, I have it inside of me.
[02:42:45]  You know, I have equal disgust for both days.
[02:42:48]  And, uh, I mean, the same February 28th.
[02:42:53]  Let's have these days as parts of our, like, let's never do this shit again.
[02:42:58]  And we're just living our lives.
[02:42:59]  We're still going on.
[02:43:00]  Yeah.
[02:43:00]  Never again only applies, uh, when it's supposed to apply for the political agenda, right?
[02:43:05]  Never again.
[02:43:06]  It's a political ploy.
[02:43:07]  You know, it's funny.
[02:43:08]  It's, I mean, can you even ask people, like, what date did we kill 160 girls?
[02:43:12]  They should know.
[02:43:13]  We should be able to say February 28th.
[02:43:15]  What date?
[02:43:16]  Did civilian apartments, 300 people die in Beirut?
[02:43:21]  We should know that.
[02:43:22]  Like this, this needs to have the equal branding because, for obvious reasons, I don't need to finish that because.
[02:43:29]  For some reason, Natalie, whenever I'm out, you know, doing social events, social activities with friends and such, for whatever reason, people like to debate politics when I'm around.
[02:43:38]  I can't quite figure out why.
[02:43:40]  It's the law of attraction.
[02:43:42]  Yeah, something happens.
[02:43:43]  Everybody wants to start talking politics with me.
[02:43:46]  But I do, this is something when it comes up, when these issues come up, which, by the way, I do think there's a massive mismeasurement from the right on this.
[02:43:54]  The war in Iran is so unpopular.
[02:43:56]  Israel is so unpopular.
[02:43:58]  And if you don't understand that, you're just under the propaganda brainwashing.
[02:44:01]  But what happens when these political debates come up around me is what the people that are trying to stand on the moral compass will bring up pro life.
[02:44:13]  And you start talking about what's happening in the Middle East, Israel, Lebanon, Gaza.
[02:44:18]  And they say, oh, well, okay, you're right wing and you support this.
[02:44:21]  Yeah, okay.
[02:44:22]  They say, well, are you pro life?
[02:44:23]  Well, of course I'm pro life.
[02:44:24]  Well, are you pro life in Gaza?
[02:44:27]  Are you pro life in Palestine?
[02:44:29]  Are you pro life in Lebanon?
[02:44:30]  Are you pro life in Iran, where we just killed almost 200 schoolgirls?
[02:44:34]  Are you pro life there?
[02:44:35]  And this is when they start stuttering and muttering and coming up with the excuses.
[02:44:39]  And maybe it's not the most fair thing to say that's equivalent to abortion, but I do think it's pro life.
[02:44:47]  I think it's either you're pro life and you want to preserve humanity and not have innocent people die, whether it's in the womb or in Gaza or Lebanon, or you're not.
[02:44:57]  Or you're not.
[02:44:59]  Yeah.
[02:45:00]  I'm with you on this.
[02:45:02]  I mean, obviously, you can see that, you know, I want more outrage for the last three months.
[02:45:08]  I want a lot of it.
[02:45:09]  I want it.
[02:45:10]  I mean, Israel's building October 7th attractions, tours, museums.
[02:45:15]  Nobody's doing that for any of these other days.
[02:45:20]  Why?
[02:45:21]  They're children, children, and civilians.
[02:45:25]  I mean, I don't know if you saw the images of like somebody's ultrasound who was, you know, in the rubble of.
[02:45:32]  A pregnant woman's ultrasound in the rubble on April 8th.
[02:45:35]  And yeah, I'm not over it.
[02:45:37]  So, good point about pro life.
[02:45:40]  I'm with you on that.
[02:45:41]  Well, I'm not the one that brings that up.
[02:45:43]  I just said these debates happen.
[02:45:46]  No, these debates happen in front of me.
[02:45:47]  I'm just kind of sitting there like I'm the stage or something.
[02:45:50]  I'm not even talking.
[02:45:52]  And you'll have people that are like, yeah, it's great what we're doing in the Middle East.
[02:45:55]  And then you'll have conservatives be like, well, aren't you pro life?
[02:45:57]  Of course I'm pro life.
[02:45:58]  Well, are you pro life in the Middle East?
[02:45:59]  And then it's like, well, you know, that's different.
[02:46:02]  Yeah.
[02:46:02]  It's great.
[02:46:04]  I mean, yeah, by what metric is it great?
[02:46:08]  You know, That's a strange thing to say.
[02:46:11]  By the metric of how easily you fall for political propaganda, I think.
[02:46:16]  And in foreign policy, it might be the most intrusive and heavy of all of it.
[02:46:19]  Natalie Morris with us from Redacted.
[02:46:22]  Natalie, appreciate your time today.
[02:46:23]  Where can people follow your show?
[02:46:25]  Yeah, Redacted.
[02:46:26]  It's Redacted News on YouTube.
[02:46:27]  You can follow me on X at Natalie Morris.
[02:46:30]  There's no E on Natalie.
[02:46:33]  And those are probably the platforms.
[02:46:34]  Oh, redacted.inc.
[02:46:36]  We have a daily newsletter as well, where it's like, you know, a little.
[02:46:40]  Political conversation.
[02:46:41]  And usually those are the things we'll talk about in the show.
[02:46:43]  We're live Monday through Thursday.
[02:46:45]  And if you guys are looking for a source of news and information outside of the Owen Report, of course, that is fair, neutral, balanced, honest, and trustworthy, I can tell you Redacted is a great source for me.
[02:46:56]  Thank you so much.
[02:46:57]  Thank you for you as well.
[02:46:58]  Natalie, really appreciate you.
[02:46:59]  Tell everybody over there on the Redacted team hello.

=== Next Time on the Show (15:40) ===

[02:47:02]  I will do that.
[02:47:03]  Thank you for inviting me on your show.
[02:47:04]  It's fun to not be the host and just be, I liked being the guest.
[02:47:08]  I can just be bitchy.
[02:47:10]  Yeah.
[02:47:11]  Well, I don't know if anybody would describe you as that.
[02:47:13]  So maybe.
[02:47:13]  Really?
[02:47:14]  I'll try harder next time.
[02:47:16]  Hey, ratchet it up a little bit more next time.
[02:47:18]  Okay.
[02:47:19]  I'll bring the bitch on.
[02:47:21]  You invited.
[02:47:22]  Nobody called you a bitch in the comments.
[02:47:24]  So I don't know if that's a letdown for you today, but we'll try to do better next time.
[02:47:28]  Okay.
[02:47:28]  I'll bring Hulk Natalie next time.
[02:47:31]  I promise if I'm invited back.
[02:47:33]  All right, Natalie.
[02:47:33]  Good to see you.
[02:47:34]  Have a great day.
[02:47:36]  All right.
[02:47:37]  Well, it's okay.
[02:47:39]  I've been a loaded show.
[02:47:40]  We're coming up.
[02:47:42]  On the three hour mark, we have to get to our super chats.
[02:47:48]  I've been teasing this Tucker and Kevin O'Leary debate, but maybe we'll put that on hold because tomorrow I've got Greg Reese coming on the show.
[02:48:05]  And he did a video recently about the data centers and the New World Order and why he thinks they are.
[02:48:15]  Strategically, geographically, strategically placing these things on high ground because he thinks the elites know that there's going to be some sort of a cataclysmic event.
[02:48:26]  So I'd like to kind of pick his brain about that and then maybe we'll use that or we'll use the O'Leary Carlson debate to lead into that since we're already going on hour three.
[02:48:38]  I do want to give DMT another shot to voice his opinion on the show today.
[02:48:43]  We kind of took a swing at that earlier, just cold.
[02:48:46]  Because Massey was caught up with voting.
[02:48:49]  So, why don't we try to get DMT on here?
[02:48:51]  Let's see if we can get your audio fixed here, and then we'll go to the super chats.
[02:48:54]  Producer DMT, what's up?
[02:48:57]  Am I functional or what's the deal?
[02:48:59]  We got you loud and clear.
[02:49:00]  Man, just the censorship operation from this guy that says he's a freedom of speech.
[02:49:05]  It was UFOs, man.
[02:49:06]  The UFOs were.
[02:49:07]  All right, here's the deal.
[02:49:08]  I just wanted to say something real quick.
[02:49:09]  I think the opposition against Massey online is just totally astroturf.
[02:49:15]  Like you said, One thing for the people that don't understand gambling markets the less amount of wagers that are actually in the market itself, the easier it is for a big whale to move it.
[02:49:27]  So I saw there was a total, at least on Kalshi, there was like 3 million in it.
[02:49:31]  That means someone could put a million dollar bet on Golren and end up actually moving the market pretty substantially.
[02:49:37]  So, but that's not even what I wanted to say.
[02:49:39]  What I wanted to say is I know you know the head of product for X, Mr. Nikita Beer.
[02:49:44]  He's not exactly a big fan of mine personally.
[02:49:48]  You know about some of the things that not everybody else knows about.
[02:49:51]  But, anyways, I noticed today after a lot of people claim they're suppressed on X and things, I think it's kind of annoying sometimes.
[02:49:58]  But I think both you and I can agree.
[02:50:01]  I legitimately have been.
[02:50:02]  Pretty suppressed ever since this whole thing with me and Nikita Beer.
[02:50:08]  Not as many impressions and things like that as usual, but it's pretty substantial.
[02:50:12]  Anyways, I put a few things out about Thomas Massey today.
[02:50:16]  The last one had 17,000 likes in only an hour.
[02:50:20]  So Thomas Massey is absolutely popular among the American populace.
[02:50:26]  I think it's something that needs to be noted that you saw that Fox poll about how MAGA supports Trump 100%.
[02:50:34]  What they're not telling you is that.
[02:50:35]  Significantly less people identify as MAGA these days.
[02:50:40]  And you're seeing that with right leaning independents.
[02:50:42]  You're seeing it with young people.
[02:50:44]  You're seeing it with Hispanics.
[02:50:45]  You're seeing it with all different types of demographics that clearly don't want anything to do with the MAGA agenda.
[02:50:51]  So when people say, oh, MAGA hates Thomas Massey, well, MAGA is an ever declining asset and it's more legit.
[02:50:59]  It loses legitimacy by the day.
[02:51:01]  So I just think that a lot of people get sort of stuck in these silos and they think there's all this opposition to Thomas Massey that doesn't exist.
[02:51:10]  So Well, and I support Massey and I'm sick of the propaganda.
[02:51:14]  By the way, I went and I checked after the dip on Massey's percentages on PolyMarket.
[02:51:22]  After that dip, it immediately went right back up.
[02:51:25]  So that's smart people like free money.
[02:51:28]  I don't think the guys, obviously, it's not a shoe in.
[02:51:32]  He even said himself the margin's single digits.
[02:51:34]  So people need to get out there and vote.
[02:51:36]  But absolutely, I think that smart people bounce back for a reason.
[02:51:41]  Is it time?
[02:51:41]  When do.
[02:51:43]  When do we start to talk, you know, some of these markets here?
[02:51:48]  When do you and I start to flex our muscle in the old DJ?
[02:51:53]  We're not in the prize, man.
[02:51:54]  We need to do everything carefully.
[02:51:56]  All right.
[02:51:56]  We'll worry about the rest when the country's not on fire.
[02:51:59]  I don't know.
[02:51:59]  People are desperate, man.
[02:52:01]  They're desperate for political coverage that can delve into other topics.
[02:52:05]  Honestly, I think that they are.
[02:52:06]  I think that it's something that, you know, the political discussion is so dry right now, it's so redundant right now.
[02:52:15]  But we know how to pick winners.
[02:52:17]  I mean, yeah.
[02:52:18]  Well, you know, if I got to reveal a hand or two, give me a call in September when that old NFL season starts.
[02:52:24]  Okay.
[02:52:24]  You got nothing tonight.
[02:52:26]  You got nothing.
[02:52:26]  No, no, no.
[02:52:27]  No, I don't.
[02:52:28]  Yeah, I got nothing.
[02:52:29]  No.
[02:52:29]  You like Mass.
[02:52:30]  Hey, man.
[02:52:31]  Like I said, I got bigger priorities.
[02:52:32]  We're trying to keep the last remaining Patriot and honest human being within the halls of Congress.
[02:52:39]  So we got fun and games to worry about here during the summer.
[02:52:43]  All right.
[02:52:43]  The Owen Report Summer Bash in July.
[02:52:46]  All right.
[02:52:47]  All right.
[02:52:48]  Get out of here.
[02:52:48]  Get on out.
[02:52:49]  Get out.
[02:52:51]  There we go.
[02:52:51]  DMT making an appearance today.
[02:52:53]  All right, guys, let's do this.
[02:52:57]  Let's take a short break, and we will come back with your super chats on the other side.
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[02:55:51]  Navigating between the sane and insane.
[02:55:54]  It's the Owen Report with Owen Schroyer.
[02:56:04]  Do you guys want my degenerate gambling picks for tonight?
[02:56:09]  Let me know in the super chats.
[02:56:10]  I won't voluntarily give them out.
[02:56:13]  But if you're interested in the super chats, I got one I got my eye on.
[02:56:16]  I'm going to be honest.
[02:56:17]  All right, we're going to pile through these super chats real quick.
[02:56:19]  I'm going on with Clint Russell later tonight as well.
[02:56:24]  That's going down in about an hour and a half.
[02:56:27]  So let's get through these super chats, and then we'll be going on with Clint Russell later tonight.
[02:56:32]  I believe me and Harrison Smith are actually going to be doing a panel with Clint tonight.
[02:56:37]  So.
[02:56:38]  Looking forward to that.
[02:56:42]  But for now, let's get to our super chats as we do at the end of every show.
[02:56:46]  Dust Vault, time to take gloves off Benny Johnson.
[02:56:51]  You know, guys, you know, I don't get into the personality stuff.
[02:56:53]  You know, I don't get into the personal beef, personality beef stuff.
[02:56:57]  So I'm going to continue to do that.
[02:57:00]  I see it.
[02:57:02]  I see it.
[02:57:03]  Can you give Massey some tips on how to have Riz?
[02:57:06]  I think he's already figured that one out with the new bearded.
[02:57:10]  Clark Kent look with the three piece suit.
[02:57:14]  I think he's got, he's, I think he's figured his Riz out.
[02:57:17]  I've got the, I'm slowly transitioning.
[02:57:19]  I've still got the Barry Gibb Riz, but I think we're in our final phases of the Barry Gibb Riz.
[02:57:26]  And very soon we will have a very new Riz in the month of June.
[02:57:29]  So just look out for that, guys.
[02:57:32]  Look out for the new Riz coming up in the month of June.
[02:57:36]  Rack on Tube watching you from Jordan.
[02:57:39]  Huge fan and glad you're back.
[02:57:41]  Thank you.
[02:57:42]  Really appreciate that.
[02:57:44]  We love our international audience.
[02:57:46]  And thank you so much for the super chat and spending time with us here on the Owen Report.
[02:57:51]  From Jordan.
[02:57:53]  God bless.
[02:57:53]  Appreciate that.
[02:57:55]  Owen's wifey.
[02:57:56]  Hey, babe.
[02:57:58]  You know, this is how good I got it.
[02:58:02]  I am such an alpha male, okay, that my own wife has to pay money just to speak to me.
[02:58:09]  I mean, who do you know has it like that?
[02:58:11]  I mean, come on.
[02:58:13]  My own wife can't even speak to me without having to pay me money.
[02:58:19]  I'm just saying, that's power.
[02:58:23]  I'm not even going to try reading that name.
[02:58:25]  You're colonized.
[02:58:26]  Watch out for divide and conquer tactics.
[02:58:29]  Oh, well, we're very aware of that.
[02:58:31]  I think we see that every day.
[02:58:33]  And that's part of the reason why I don't get into the personal conflicts because I do think that's all divide and conquer.
[02:58:43]  To name them is to hate them.
[02:58:45]  Well, that's the logic that they want you to believe.
[02:58:47]  Silver Soldier, Owen undercover in DC on Grindr next.
[02:58:52]  I think I'm too well known.
[02:58:55]  I think I'm probably too well known to pull that off.
[02:58:58]  But then again, James O'Keefe shows up in a ridiculous wig and glasses and gets away with it.
[02:59:04]  So who knows?
[02:59:05]  I don't really, that's not really the type of work I like.
[02:59:09]  But that's funny.
[02:59:11]  That is funny.
[02:59:13]  Were you the bearded lady with the camera?
[02:59:15]  No, Iron Lunatic.
[02:59:17]  No.
[02:59:18]  And you can clearly tell that those are women in those videos.
[02:59:21]  And that's why it's so funny to watch MAGA crashing out over it saying, oh, you sent Owen to do this.
[02:59:26]  You guys don't, you guys are, look, I'm not even trying to be mean.
[02:59:30]  Like this is out of serious consideration for your own mind and your own soul.
[02:59:34]  You need to do a little introspection here.
[02:59:37]  You need to look in the mirror.
[02:59:39]  If you're watching those undercover videos and you think that they sent me in to get them, as it's clearly a woman, In the video, it's clearly a woman, and you are so brainwashed and blinded by hatred that you think it's me, then you need to have a moment.
[02:59:57]  You need to sit down, you need to take a pause and realize that you've lost your mind, you've lost your marbles.
[03:00:02]  So, you want to disagree politically, that's fine.
[03:00:05]  But if you think I'm a woman in my off hours, then I don't know what to say.
[03:00:09]  I think you have some serious mental issues.
[03:00:12]  I just sent $25 to Thomas Massey.
[03:00:15]  Do it if you're not a scared little black pilled baby.
[03:00:20]  Aw, elections don't mean anything.
[03:00:21]  Wah, wah, wah.
[03:00:22]  Four chariots.
[03:00:25]  Who is that directed at?
[03:00:26]  I don't know.
[03:00:27]  But, okay, I'm sensing a little spice from Four Chariots today.
[03:00:31]  Hey, that's good.
[03:00:32]  Go, Massey.
[03:00:34]  Gray, how could Representative Massey do this?
[03:00:38]  What, the show?
[03:00:39]  Because he's a great American and he likes independent media.
[03:00:42]  Expose 305.
[03:00:44]  Good to have you back.
[03:00:45]  Don't change your iconic break game tunes.
[03:00:47]  It's Shroyer, Destroyer, Final Boss tunes.
[03:00:50]  No, I don't think so.
[03:00:51]  I think we'll just maybe add some.
[03:00:54]  And I've already explained to people, like, why does he do that with the music?
[03:00:56]  I've already explained it.
[03:00:57]  I'm not going to explain it again.
[03:00:59]  And I kind of like the fact that it's a talking point in the chat, actually.
[03:01:02]  I kind of enjoy that.
[03:01:04]  Heads up, I post and ghost and always start my workday in the morning jamming to your podcast on Rumble.
[03:01:10]  Thank you, brother.
[03:01:11]  Love to be a part of your workday out there.
[03:01:13]  If you listen to the ON report while you're working, I really appreciate that.
[03:01:19]  I'm honored by that.
[03:01:20]  You invite me into your workplace, you invite me into your house, your car.
[03:01:24]  It means a lot to me.
[03:01:25]  Thank you.
[03:01:26]  Massey is an American patriot.
[03:01:30]  Agree.
[03:01:31]  JV Free, Massey should be president.
[03:01:33]  Americans are dumb.
[03:01:35]  Well, Keep an eye.
[03:01:38]  2028, keep an eye.
[03:01:40]  Thomas Massey.
[03:01:41]  Incredible you have him on live.
[03:01:42]  Thank you, Rakin.
[03:01:44]  Is it Rackin'?
[03:01:46]  Rock on, maybe?
[03:01:47]  Is it Rock on?
[03:01:49]  We'll get it right, brother.
[03:01:50]  We'll get it right.
[03:01:52]  Why does Massey low key look like an older woman?
[03:01:55]  You know what?
[03:01:59]  No dinner for you, no TV for you.
[03:02:02]  In fact, sleep on the couch.
[03:02:06]  You're cut off.
[03:02:07]  This is.
[03:02:08]  This type of insolence is not going to be tolerated here, woman.
[03:02:12]  Okay.
[03:02:13]  And I'm being nice to you.
[03:02:15]  Jim Taylor, thank you.
[03:02:17]  Massey for King.
[03:02:19]  Repeal the Constitution.
[03:02:20]  Get out of here.
[03:02:21]  What is this spice from Four Chariots today?
[03:02:23]  What is this?
[03:02:23]  This new guy in the chat.
[03:02:25]  Someone's spice out here.
[03:02:27]  W. Massey takes guts coming on the show.
[03:02:29]  Owen Jones-Schroyer.
[03:02:32]  Well, more and more people are starting to realize that I'm one of the more sane, normal people in the political media, actually, is what's happening.
[03:02:39]  Pray X.
[03:02:40]  Oh, and we know you hate to fly.

=== Third Party Political Options (04:25) ===

[03:02:42]  We are willing to go for a couple of shows.
[03:02:47]  If you have the means, which we do not, go Massey.
[03:02:52]  I'm not sure exactly what you're saying.
[03:02:53]  If you're talking about the event for Massey that's coming up, you know, I look at it like this.
[03:02:59]  At this point, it would just be selfish for me to go because there's going to be a bunch of people there, a bunch of great people, people I want to meet.
[03:03:07]  It's going to be a big event.
[03:03:09]  And it's like, it would kind of just be if I felt like the event needed me.
[03:03:13]  If I felt like the event needed my presence for promotion or if it was really going to help, then I would feel more inclined to do it.
[03:03:20]  But there's so many big names, there's so many heavy hitters.
[03:03:22]  They don't, they really don't need me.
[03:03:25]  And I think my time is probably better spent just hosting this show in studio again since I just took the break.
[03:03:31]  I don't know.
[03:03:31]  It's not out of the question.
[03:03:33]  But like I said, at this point, it kind of feels selfish because I just want to go hang out with all the great people that are going to be there.
[03:03:41]  I don't know.
[03:03:42]  We might look into it, but I'd say it's not, it's probably not going to happen.
[03:03:45]  I just took the break.
[03:03:46]  We need to be here in studio every day.
[03:03:49]  Poly market and cars for kids owned and operated.
[03:03:52]  Don't come after Poly market.
[03:03:53]  Those are good guys over there.
[03:03:55]  Okay.
[03:03:56]  I don't want to get into this whole Poly market thing, but I'm telling you, those are good guys.
[03:04:01]  All right.
[03:04:01]  So now, cars for kids, that's a different story.
[03:04:04]  They got legal problems, not Poly Market.
[03:04:08]  Tay Tay, my Latina girlfriend broke up with me, met an older Latina wearing a MILF fishback crop top and blue Lulus at Publix on Mother's Day.
[03:04:23]  You have so many insider jokes here, nobody can keep up with you anymore.
[03:04:26]  It's like you got to tone it down.
[03:04:29]  Did Natalie mention Lululemon's?
[03:04:32]  You know what?
[03:04:33]  I understand what you're saying.
[03:04:36]  And I am better than Lululemon's, by the way.
[03:04:39]  Just like way better.
[03:04:40]  NASA, what is it going to take for people to admit and understand that voting is fake?
[03:04:46]  It's amazing the faith people got.
[03:04:48]  Pretty gay.
[03:04:53]  All right.
[03:04:55]  Kirby.
[03:04:56]  No, he wasn't talking about Kirby.
[03:04:58]  I think she was talking about Jake Sullivan.
[03:05:01]  She was describing Jake Sullivan.
[03:05:02]  I can't think of any other person it would be.
[03:05:05]  Pizza and grape soda will be our credo.
[03:05:07]  Well, I don't think Trump was into pizza and grape soda, but Epstein certainly was, and all of his friends certainly were.
[03:05:15]  My Starlink connection over your Spectrum connection.
[03:05:19]  Okay.
[03:05:21]  All right.
[03:05:22]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[03:05:24]  Here comes the peanut gallery.
[03:05:27]  Two sweet souls back to back.
[03:05:29]  What a treat, Owen.
[03:05:30]  Yeah, great guest today.
[03:05:31]  Really, really great guest.
[03:05:32]  No chem in the HTO to turn the friggin' frogs gay.
[03:05:35]  Not if you got your Cove Pure water system.
[03:05:38]  Bro, Elon is either a robot or a clone.
[03:05:43]  Interesting.
[03:05:44]  Why do you say clone?
[03:05:45]  Robot?
[03:05:47]  Do we have robots running around pretending to be humans?
[03:05:49]  I don't know.
[03:05:49]  Maybe it's not so far fetched.
[03:05:53]  Our brains have been flooded and numbed with atrocities.
[03:05:56]  That's true.
[03:05:58]  That's true.
[03:05:58]  We've become desensitized to it.
[03:06:00]  And then it all becomes politically aimed and propagandized so that you're only supporting the one side that you're supposed to that owns your mind.
[03:06:12]  I think it's time to vote for a third party, the farm girl.
[03:06:15]  Well, Elon Musk talked about launching an America party.
[03:06:19]  If anybody can make it possible, maybe it's Elon Musk.
[03:06:24]  There's never been an environment where a third party could win.
[03:06:29]  There's never been that environment.
[03:06:31]  And it would only exist at the presidential level, not at the local level.
[03:06:36]  It'd be too hard to penetrate it at the local level.
[03:06:38]  But at the national level, this could be the first time.
[03:06:42]  Where you have a political environment where a third party candidate could actually become a serious contender.
[03:06:49]  I mean, it'd have to be a big name.
[03:06:51]  It'd have to be a big name and a big voice.
[03:06:54]  But I think it's the first time where a third party could actually be a contender.
[03:06:58]  I think that we have the first time where a political climate where the Republicans suck so bad and the Democrats suck so bad that people from both sides are disenfranchised and looking for new options.

=== Vote Dan in Minnesota (05:28) ===

[03:07:07]  JV Free, Owen, if you're really pro life, it's time to create life and drop it deep inside.
[03:07:13]  Jesus.
[03:07:15]  Also, spoke with AJ.
[03:07:16]  He's waiting for your call.
[03:07:17]  You're right.
[03:07:18]  I need to just start creating babies.
[03:07:20]  So let's just actually cancel the show and let's just do a dating show.
[03:07:29]  And until I have a wife, I'm just going to do a dating show.
[03:07:34]  That's what we're going to do.
[03:07:35]  We're going to turn the Owen Report into a dating show.
[03:07:37]  We're just going to keep bringing women on until I find the right one.
[03:07:40]  And then we're going to start making a bunch of babies.
[03:07:42]  Or maybe I'll be a polygamist.
[03:07:43]  I don't know.
[03:07:44]  I really don't think about it.
[03:07:45]  So we'll just cancel the political stuff then.
[03:07:47]  How about that?
[03:07:48]  Why did you have to say it like that?
[03:07:51]  Why did you have to phrase it like that?
[03:07:53]  It's not inaccurate.
[03:07:54]  Jeez.
[03:07:55]  Good God.
[03:07:57]  6 45 Central on a Thursday.
[03:08:00]  Iron Lunatic.
[03:08:01]  Yes, I want to win big on the Hard Rock Betts app.
[03:08:05]  Okay.
[03:08:06]  Okay.
[03:08:08]  I'm thinking is the Spurs Timberwolves game tonight?
[03:08:16]  I saw the Timberwolves were big underdogs.
[03:08:20]  I don't know if that game is tonight or tomorrow.
[03:08:22]  Let me see.
[03:08:25]  I have to tell you, I like both underdogs.
[03:08:28]  I like Minnesota.
[03:08:30]  I like Minnesota as an underdog, I like Detroit as an underdog.
[03:08:34]  Only because it's a good value bet.
[03:08:36]  I don't know if it's like, you know, maybe I think they can win, but it's just a good value bet.
[03:08:41]  I think Minnesota would probably be my play.
[03:08:46]  Looking at the hockey.
[03:08:49]  Wow.
[03:08:51]  I like Anaheim.
[03:08:53]  That's a split, though.
[03:08:55]  I like Anaheim tonight if you're just looking for some action.
[03:09:01]  But I think Minnesota's tomorrow.
[03:09:05]  Yeah.
[03:09:06]  I do not give betting advice.
[03:09:08]  I just tell you what I think.
[03:09:09]  There you go.
[03:09:10]  You asked for it, you get it.
[03:09:13]  Shelby Corzine.
[03:09:14]  Vote Dan.
[03:09:17]  Vote Dan.
[03:09:19]  What are we talking about here?
[03:09:21]  Okay.
[03:09:23]  Owen Schroeder's wife.
[03:09:24]  He learned how to read.
[03:09:25]  I said, Owen, not women.
[03:09:26]  Now you're insulting me.
[03:09:28]  Now that's two nights on the couch, two nights, no supper.
[03:09:31]  You're cooking it, but you're not eating it.
[03:09:33]  Ryan Norris.
[03:09:34]  Thank you, Ryan.
[03:09:37]  You need a one on one with David Icke.
[03:09:39]  Massey probably a stop it.
[03:09:45]  Come on.
[03:09:45]  Do you guys have no faith in anything anymore?
[03:09:48]  Is that the world that you live in?
[03:09:50]  I'm just curious.
[03:09:51]  Is that the world you want to live in?
[03:09:53]  I advise strictly against this.
[03:09:56]  Okay.
[03:09:58]  Venezuela, 51st state.
[03:09:59]  I don't think too much.
[03:10:00]  I don't think Trump's serious about this stuff, by the way.
[03:10:02]  I think he just says crap.
[03:10:04]  But honestly, look, let me just give you advice, guys.
[03:10:09]  Do not become so black pilled and hopeless that you can't trust anybody.
[03:10:17]  Okay.
[03:10:18]  Now, I'm not telling you to trust Massey if you don't want to.
[03:10:20]  I'm not even telling you to trust me if you don't want to.
[03:10:22]  But don't live in that world where you think everybody is evil.
[03:10:26]  Don't go into that mindset where you just inherently don't trust anybody ever and everybody is bad.
[03:10:32]  You don't want to exist there.
[03:10:33]  It's a depressing state of affairs.
[03:10:36]  And it's just not the reality.
[03:10:38]  There are good people.
[03:10:39]  In fact, most people are good.
[03:10:41]  You are a good person.
[03:10:43]  And so are other people.
[03:10:44]  It just so happens that in this business, politics, media, there's a bunch of scumbags and a bunch of liars.
[03:10:52]  And so you do have to treat it that way.
[03:10:54]  But don't be lumping Massey.
[03:10:55]  Don't be lumping the good ones into this.
[03:10:57]  But I get it.
[03:10:59]  At the same time, I understand.
[03:11:01]  Epstein Files said Biden fake either mask or robot.
[03:11:06]  I'm starting to think the robot angle.
[03:11:08]  When you saw him walking on the beach, that looked like a damn robot.
[03:11:12]  You had the auto pen.
[03:11:14]  Maybe it was just Biden as a robot.
[03:11:17]  WJV free super chat.
[03:11:19]  You guys are just, you're out of control.
[03:11:21]  I get it.
[03:11:23]  Corn pop play Biden for his whole term.
[03:11:26]  Corn pop was playing Biden for the whole Biden term.
[03:11:30]  Does Biden even know he was president?
[03:11:32]  Has anybody checked in on Biden?
[03:11:34]  Guy down the street.
[03:11:36]  Thoughts on Mike Dugan?
[03:11:38]  No.
[03:11:40]  No, I don't have any thoughts on Mike Dugan.
[03:11:42]  All right.
[03:11:43]  That's going to do it, guys.
[03:11:44]  That's going to do it for today.
[03:11:45]  We're going to be back tomorrow.
[03:11:47]  Like I said, Greg Reese is coming up.
[03:11:49]  We're going to look at the AI data centers.
[03:11:51]  I got some other stuff for tomorrow as well.
[03:11:53]  Good show today.
[03:11:53]  Good guests.
[03:11:55]  Thanks to everybody for tuning in.
[03:11:56]  Big crowd today.
[03:11:57]  Great super chat.
[03:11:58]  Great people in the chats.
[03:12:00]  Love you all.
[03:12:02]  We take a 20 hour break.
[03:12:05]  We take a 20 hour break because we'll be back tomorrow, 3 p.m. Central.
[03:12:10]  Same time, same channel, same fun, same love for life, humanity, and all things good.
[03:12:19]  Sneaking one in last second, Tate from Florida.
[03:12:22]  New Latina girlfriend is a widow with a daughter.
[03:12:24]  I don't know.
[03:12:25]  You're out of control today.
[03:12:28]  You're out of your mind today.
[03:12:30]  God bless.
[03:12:31]  Godspeed.
[03:12:33]  See you tomorrow, or I'll see you tonight in about an hour with Clint Russell.