Owen Shroyer Live - Trump And GOP See Disaster Coming In Midterms, Beg Voters To Vote Anyway Despite Broken Promises
Aired: 2026-04-10
Duration: 03:47:14


=== Midterms Catch Up With Trump (04:51) ===

[00:00:00]  Gentlemen, it is Friday, April 10th, 2026.
[00:00:04]  Here's what's coming up on the Owen Report today.
[00:00:20]  All right, we got a lot to discuss on a Friday.
[00:00:23]  We got to do a little bit of a carryover portion from yesterday's news that we didn't get to.
[00:00:31]  But let's talk about today.
[00:00:37]  We can talk about the midterms.
[00:00:39]  We've been talking about the midterms.
[00:00:42]  It's starting to catch up with the GOP, it's starting to catch up with Trump that the midterms are not looking good.
[00:00:52]  Now, Trump has been a little bit distracted, so I don't know how closely he's monitoring the situation.
[00:00:58]  But the GOP and its mouthpieces in the media, they're now realizing it's time to panic.
[00:01:07]  They're now realizing they have to address this issue for the midterms or it's not going to look good for them.
[00:01:13]  And they've come out with their two presentations now, they've come out with their two messages now, and they may have even made the decision it's best to keep Trump out of this, actually.
[00:01:27]  Now, they've maybe made the decision it's best to keep Trump out of us.
[00:01:30]  Now, that doesn't mean he's not going to be on the campaign trail, but they might have decided, hey, let's not have Trump engaging in these talking points.
[00:01:39]  That's not going to look good for him.
[00:01:41]  Let's leave that to our mouthpieces in the media to carry these talking points to try to convince people to go vote in the midterm.
[00:01:48]  So I'm going to show you these talking points, but I'm going to explain why they fail, why they fail and they're dead on arrival.
[00:01:55]  And it just shows how out of touch.
[00:01:57]  The GOP is right now, and they have no winning message because the winning message.
[00:02:05]  If the GOP wanted to win the midterms, the winning message, they're not allowed to say it.
[00:02:11]  The GOP is not allowed to have a winning message for the midterms.
[00:02:15]  So you're not going to get it.
[00:02:17]  But I'll tell you the message that they're going with, and I'll tell you why it's going to fail.
[00:02:23]  Now, it kind of got overshadowed, and maybe this was the intention of Trump's post yesterday, ridiculing the four former, now I guess, Trump supporters, however you want to put it.
[00:02:39]  Maybe the purpose of it was to distract from Epstein.
[00:02:42]  And you know, it's so crazy now as you're kind of trying to follow the bouncing ball, trying to decipher what motives. Exist behind each move.
[00:02:56]  So, okay, we need the Iran war to distract from the Epstein files.
[00:02:59]  All right, the Iran war isn't doing very good.
[00:03:02]  We need the Epstein files to distract from the Iran war.
[00:03:06]  Okay, the Epstein thing isn't working.
[00:03:07]  Here, let me just post something completely out of mind.
[00:03:10]  Let me just post something completely psychotic and that'll distract from everything.
[00:03:15]  Well, that worked for a day.
[00:03:17]  It's not going to work today.
[00:03:20]  This issue with the Epstein files and Melania.
[00:03:24]  And you may recall an old New York Times story.
[00:03:27]  We covered it.
[00:03:28]  It's a month or so old.
[00:03:29]  We're going to bring it up again today about Trump's friend that Trump used ICE to deport his wife or baby mama.
[00:03:39]  It's a complicated situation.
[00:03:42]  That is coming back to the surface, and it's causing other individuals, let's say, involved in this Epstein circle to start to speak out and point out some other things that researchers are looking into.
[00:03:56]  We all knew the Epstein thing was bad.
[00:03:58]  Now the question is, how bad is it for Trump?
[00:04:04]  How bad is it really for Trump?
[00:04:06]  And trying to ignore it, trying to say that Trump is a victim here or that Trump was helping in the investigation, maybe it's true, maybe it's not.
[00:04:17]  It's irrelevant as to where we're at now in the saga because there are so many connections to Trump.
[00:04:24]  And now his administration, which had the opportunity to blow this thing wide open, instead is trying to close the book.
[00:04:32]  So we'll take another look at that.
[00:04:34]  It's wild.
[00:04:36]  Trump economy, not good.
[00:04:38]  Bad economic news.
[00:04:40]  Trump and the crypto market, not good.
[00:04:43]  Bad news in the crypto market as well today.
[00:04:47]  So we'll look at that.
[00:04:48]  We got some other geopolitical news loaded Friday.

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=== Unified Front Against The Left (15:02) ===

[00:08:13]  How are you guys doing?
[00:08:14]  Happy Friday.
[00:08:16]  How are you feeling about this weekend?
[00:08:17]  I got to say, I'm very much looking forward to this weekend.
[00:08:21]  This is a much needed weekend for me.
[00:08:24]  Really looking forward to a couple days off to get out of the political chaos or at least having to live through it every single day.
[00:08:36]  I can't help but laugh.
[00:08:37]  I look to my right at the Drudge Report here and they have a headline.
[00:08:44]  Hunter Biden flees USA and is $17 million in debt.
[00:08:50]  Hold on a second.
[00:08:55]  It's from the Daily Express.
[00:08:59]  I have to say, I'm a little confused by this.
[00:09:04]  I was actually invited to an event.
[00:09:09]  I was, I mean, basically, I could have met and interviewed Hunter Biden.
[00:09:14]  I was invited to an event where Hunter Biden was going to be and I was going to get access to Hunter.
[00:09:20]  I basically was offered an opportunity to interview Hunter Biden.
[00:09:24]  I turned it down.
[00:09:26]  I said, you know what?
[00:09:27]  There's definitely some interest there.
[00:09:29]  I could probably get a viral video out of it, but you know what?
[00:09:33]  Probably not the right time.
[00:09:36]  I'm not, you know.
[00:09:37]  I'm not going into this Biden support mode or something like that.
[00:09:41]  It's like, I could do it as a journalist, probably get a viral video, whatever.
[00:09:47]  And so they made the offer.
[00:09:48]  And I just, I just, I thought about it.
[00:09:50]  I said, you know what?
[00:09:51]  No, I don't think, I don't think my audience would appreciate that too much.
[00:09:57]  So I turned it down.
[00:09:57]  But it's funny.
[00:09:58]  I see this.
[00:10:00]  The event was in the United States and it's coming up here in like a week or so.
[00:10:07]  I believe it was April.
[00:10:09]  Pretty sure the event was April.
[00:10:10]  So, I'm not sure.
[00:10:11]  Something doesn't add up with that.
[00:10:14]  Anyway, distracted me before I go live.
[00:10:17]  Yesterday was a crazy day, though.
[00:10:20]  Boy, oh boy, wasn't it?
[00:10:21]  I'm sure there will be some, maybe some lingering inquiries when we get to the super chats.
[00:10:32]  Apparently, Hunter Biden's ex girlfriend is in the chat today.
[00:10:34]  Are you guys seeing this?
[00:10:37]  Are you guys seeing this?
[00:10:38]  I don't even want to know, actually.
[00:10:43]  I don't even, I'm not even going to go there with you.
[00:10:47]  That is wild.
[00:10:50]  All right.
[00:10:50]  So, the big developments I've got a stack of economic news, and then we've got some geopolitical news.
[00:10:57]  We're kind of, you know, we're kind of in the same realm as we normally are.
[00:11:04]  But there's really two things I want to focus on to start the show.
[00:11:11]  And that's now we, We have a clear picture of what the GOP is going to attempt to do here ahead of the midterms.
[00:11:20]  So the conversations behind the scenes are now, they've accepted, how can I say it?
[00:11:29]  They've essentially accepted defeat.
[00:11:32]  They've realized now that the voices on the right and all of these terms, let's say they're loosely applied for right now.
[00:11:43]  So don't try to hold me to any standards here.
[00:11:46]  These terms are all loosely applied to make this transmission a little more consumable.
[00:11:52]  The GOP has essentially accepted defeat.
[00:11:57]  And they're looking at the midterms and they're saying, okay, we've tried to silence.
[00:12:04]  Voices on the right like Nick Fuentes.
[00:12:08]  We've tried to get people to turn off voices on the right like Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson.
[00:12:16]  Now, Donald Trump is involved in this process.
[00:12:19]  It's not working.
[00:12:21]  It's not working.
[00:12:22]  In fact, I was looking at the top five political podcasts in America.
[00:12:27]  The Owen Report is not quite there yet.
[00:12:30]  We're grinding.
[00:12:32]  We want to be there.
[00:12:33]  We're striving.
[00:12:33]  We're grinding.
[00:12:34]  We hope to be there.
[00:12:35]  But the Owen Report, we're not in the top five yet, guys.
[00:12:38]  So help me out.
[00:12:40]  Give us a follow on iHeartRadio.
[00:12:42]  Give us a follow on Spotify.
[00:12:44]  Give us a follow on iTunes if you'd like to listen to the show after we conclude our live streams.
[00:12:50]  So you've got Tucker Carlson at number one, and you've got Candace Owens at number five.
[00:12:57]  And I think what's interesting about that, let's say I'm doing media coverage here, Tucker and Candace are not on every day.
[00:13:10]  They're not on every day.
[00:13:12]  So for me, that's like kind of impressive.
[00:13:16]  The other ones that are there NPR, PBS I hadn't even heard of the other one.
[00:13:21]  So I don't even remember what the other one was.
[00:13:23]  They're on every day.
[00:13:26]  And obviously, they have a massive budget.
[00:13:29]  So, okay.
[00:13:31]  The point is, it's not working.
[00:13:32]  They can't get you to stop being interested in what Tucker has to say.
[00:13:36]  They can't stop you and being interested in what Candace has to say.
[00:13:38]  They can't stop Nick Fuentes.
[00:13:41]  From becoming more and more influential or popular, however you want to put it.
[00:13:47]  So they can't do this.
[00:13:48]  And now they can't stop the denial of this.
[00:13:57]  Or I guess I should say, they realize they have to stop this denial that there is a break in MAGA or MAGA is totally dead.
[00:14:08]  So they have to re strategize.
[00:14:12]  So they have to figure okay, what can we do to convince people to vote in the midterms?
[00:14:23]  We can't get them to turn off these talk show hosts that we don't like.
[00:14:27]  We can't do that.
[00:14:29]  We can't run on policy because they don't believe us.
[00:14:34]  We can't run on success from the administration because they don't view the administration as successful.
[00:14:41]  So, normally, if you wanted to claim that the Trump administration was doing a good job, then you would say, hey, we need to make sure people know.
[00:14:55]  This was kind of the issue in 2018, actually.
[00:14:59]  If you go back to the first Trump administration, the issue that Republicans had for the midterms, which they ended up losing, it was a different reason then, but the issue they had was, How do we get people to know about Trump's success?
[00:15:17]  Which at that time, the Trump base, the MAGA base, was growing.
[00:15:22]  It was gaining momentum, and his most loyal, his most ardent supporters were still willing to pound it for him, pound the pavement, pound the digital world.
[00:15:31]  So the issue then was okay, the fake news media, the liberal media, they're not telling the truth about Trump's success.
[00:15:44]  So, how do we get the success stories out there?
[00:15:46]  That was the challenge in 2018.
[00:15:48]  Ultimately, they failed.
[00:15:49]  The challenge is differently now.
[00:15:51]  They can't run on the success of Trump.
[00:15:54]  They can't do it.
[00:15:55]  They can't do it.
[00:15:56]  Whether they think Trump is successful or not, they know that it doesn't work and they can't do it.
[00:16:03]  Now, obviously, you'd like a situation.
[00:16:07]  It'd be a lot easier for you if Trump was successful, if Trump was following through on his promises, if Trump was still massively popular, then you can just run on the success of Trump.
[00:16:18]  And say, hey, we need to keep up the momentum.
[00:16:21]  We need to keep up the wins.
[00:16:22]  Go out, vote Republican.
[00:16:23]  Let us keep control.
[00:16:25]  And then that would be the outcome.
[00:16:26]  But they can't do that.
[00:16:27]  Trump is not popular.
[00:16:29]  The policy is not happening.
[00:16:32]  And much of the Trump base feels totally betrayed.
[00:16:35]  So, what is their messaging?
[00:16:39]  So, what is the GOP going to do as we get closer to the midterms?
[00:16:45]  Well, we get a little sense today.
[00:16:48]  And, you know, the voices of the GOP, the GOP talking heads, the GOP mouthpieces, they're going to change every election cycle.
[00:17:01]  Some are going to be the same, but we can all tell, right, guys?
[00:17:05]  I mean, especially if you follow social media or you follow the news.
[00:17:10]  You can pick up on who the mouthpieces are for the GOP.
[00:17:13]  You can pick up on, okay, who's going to carry water for the Republican Party?
[00:17:18]  Who's going to take their talking points to the airwaves?
[00:17:21]  Who is going to be out here trying to convince an audience to go vote Republicans in the midterms?
[00:17:27]  I think we can pretty much say we have a good idea of who these individuals are for 2026.
[00:17:34]  So one of them that has, you know, he's been around for a while.
[00:17:40]  But now he's really kind of just turned himself into a pure GOP mouthpiece, and that is Dinesh D'Souza.
[00:17:48]  So here's one.
[00:17:50]  I'm going to show you the two.
[00:17:51]  They have a two prong attack style for the midterms as far as messaging to get you to vote.
[00:17:58]  Here's one of them from Dinesh D'Souza.
[00:18:00]  This is this morning.
[00:18:03]  It's time for Republicans, conservatives, and patriots to rally behind Trump.
[00:18:07]  Politics is fought in teams.
[00:18:10]  There is no way forward other than with Trump.
[00:18:13]  Anti Trump means a return of censorship, political targeting, and an open border.
[00:18:16]  Don't be an agent of your own destruction.
[00:18:19]  Okay.
[00:18:21]  So there's a lot cooked in here.
[00:18:23]  First of all, let's address the large request.
[00:18:29]  Let's look at the large ask here.
[00:18:32]  Dinesh Dassouza as a voice piece for the Republican Party here.
[00:18:36]  What are they asking?
[00:18:38]  Or maybe you start with what are they admitting?
[00:18:41]  So even though they say, Trump has 100% from MAGA.
[00:18:45]  They know that's a lie.
[00:18:46]  So here they are admitting they're liars, which right out of the gates, when you see, we've already crossed a line now.
[00:18:54]  We've already crossed a line where you realize that the entire purpose behind this message is a lie.
[00:19:04]  You guys say Trump has 100% support from MAGA, and then you come out and you say, hey, all you people that don't support Trump anymore, we need your vote.
[00:19:12]  So it doesn't matter that Trump called us panic ins, it doesn't matter that Trump said we don't need your vote anymore.
[00:19:17]  It doesn't matter that you claim he's getting 100% support from MAGA.
[00:19:21]  We're supposed to just ignore that like none of it happened, pretend there's no division here.
[00:19:26]  But then you're coming out and admitting that by saying, hey, Republicans, conservatives, patriots, you know, this coalition that we destroyed here and then we insulted you guys.
[00:19:35]  We do need your votes after all.
[00:19:37]  I know we said we didn't need your votes.
[00:19:38]  We actually do need your votes.
[00:19:40]  I know we said that MAGA 100% supports Trump, but that was a complete lie.
[00:19:44]  We're sorry.
[00:19:45]  We lied about that.
[00:19:46]  But we need your votes.
[00:19:46]  We need your votes for the midterms because we're better than Democrats.
[00:19:51]  So that's their pitch.
[00:19:52]  We're better than Democrats.
[00:19:54]  Well, that's not going to work.
[00:19:57]  And the fact that you're admitting without saying it that yes, MAGA is dead.
[00:20:04]  You're admitting without saying it that yes, you're lying about Trump having 100% support from MAGA.
[00:20:12]  And you continue to make these claims that, oh, they call it the woke right.
[00:20:18]  Of course, they're the woke, but we'll put that aside for now.
[00:20:23]  They have no influence, they have no following.
[00:20:26]  That's not the real world.
[00:20:28]  And now here they are begging and groveling.
[00:20:32]  Because they know that's a lie.
[00:20:34]  So, the very basis of this pitch is all in lies.
[00:20:41]  It's not going to work.
[00:20:43]  Oh, politics is fought in teams.
[00:20:45]  So, this is where it gets interesting.
[00:20:48]  This is where it gets interesting.
[00:20:50]  And we might get a little more in depth with this later in the broadcast because I assume there'll be some questions in the super chats today that I'll have to answer.
[00:20:58]  Politics is fought in teams.
[00:21:00]  I want to explain something here.
[00:21:03]  I want to explain something.
[00:21:06]  There was a time.
[00:21:09]  Let me really try to get you guys into a different perspective here.
[00:21:16]  And I think you'll be able to somewhat understand this.
[00:21:19]  I don't know if everybody can relate to this, but I think you'll be able to understand this.
[00:21:23]  There was a time where, for example, I was really hard against the left for the last 10 years, let's say, really beyond that.
[00:21:36]  I don't even know if I could say that.
[00:21:37]  I was anti Obama.
[00:21:40]  But really, really went against the left for the last 10 years.
[00:21:44]  Okay.
[00:21:44]  Now, when you first start to have an impact, the attacks start coming from all different types, all different forms.
[00:21:55]  I don't need to go down my rap sheet of everything I went through.
[00:21:58]  Okay.
[00:21:58]  You guys know it, whatever.
[00:22:00]  But the point is when we would move forward, or when I would move forward with this stuff, knowing I was going to catch the heat, knowing I was going to catch the lawfare, the censorship, the physical attacks, all of it.
[00:22:14]  I knew at that time, at least, I was like, hey, I'm going forward, but I'm not going alone.
[00:22:22]  We have a unified coalition, and they will have my back no matter what.
[00:22:27]  So, whatever ends up happening to me, I get arrested, arrested again, arrested again, I get sued, whatever.
[00:22:33]  There was always a unified team.
[00:22:37]  And I'm not specifically talking about, say, my audience, I mean, a larger team where it was like, you're going to get support.
[00:22:46]  You're going to get support.
[00:22:47]  There's going to be some form of an infrastructure.
[00:22:50]  There's going to be some form of a unified front that when you go and hit the barbed wire first, there will be some support there.
[00:22:59]  There will be a unified front of support.
[00:23:02]  So that, you know, you think about that, you consider that when you make decisions.
[00:23:09]  And so for 10 years, it was like, hey, I will gladly do this.

=== Deportation Not A Friendly Favor (15:42) ===

[00:23:15]  We will ram our heads against the left.
[00:23:18]  We will ram our heads against the deep state run by the left.
[00:23:23]  We will ram our heads against Biden, whatever, and anything, the price that we have to pay, we know we don't pay it alone.
[00:23:31]  And we know that it will have some sort of a positive benefit and outcome because there is a coalition behind it.
[00:23:41]  This no longer exists.
[00:23:44]  This no longer exists.
[00:23:48]  I could get more specific with it if I wanted to.
[00:23:51]  But again, we might do that later.
[00:23:54]  There is no longer some sort of a unified front here that if I go hard against the left and pay a price for it, there's nothing there.
[00:24:06]  That's just now you're on an island and you're going at it alone, essentially.
[00:24:12]  And I think if we really want to understand this, it's now become an opposite reality.
[00:24:21]  It's the right wing that is now as vitriolic and hate filled and, quite frankly, psychotic as the left was.
[00:24:33]  This is the perfect example, actually.
[00:24:39]  For 10 years, I was being called a Nazi and put on lists by the woke right.
[00:24:48]  For 10 years, they called me a Nazi and put me on lists.
[00:24:53]  The woke left, rather.
[00:24:55]  The woke left was calling me a Nazi and putting me on lists for 10 years.
[00:24:59]  Now, the woke right calls me a Nazi and puts me on a list.
[00:25:05]  So that's where we're at now.
[00:25:08]  So they kind of.
[00:25:11]  They have this idea that's like a nostalgic thing now with Trump, where it's like, hey, you know, these people, they're going to get in the streets, they're going to organize, they're going to rally, they're going to cause a fuss, they're going to make noise, and they're going to do all this, and they're going to pay the price, but we're going to be there, we're going to have their back.
[00:25:32]  And it's not there for Trump anymore because the people that actually did stick their neck out, they're all gone.
[00:25:40]  They've all left.
[00:25:42]  And Trump is insulting them.
[00:25:44]  So now there's this huge void.
[00:25:47]  There's this huge void of leadership.
[00:25:50]  There's this huge void of renegades and rogues that push the limits and move the ball.
[00:25:57]  They're all gone from MAGA.
[00:25:59]  They don't exist in MAGA.
[00:26:00]  They don't support Trump anymore.
[00:26:01]  They're not willing to pay the price.
[00:26:03]  And so there's this huge void in right wing politics.
[00:26:06]  And they're all kind of looking around like, oh, They just assumed that either someone would fill that role or they assumed that the people that filled that role previously would come right back to the front and fill it again.
[00:26:21]  And they're just not there.
[00:26:23]  They're just not there.
[00:26:24]  So they're all kind of looking around at one another like, hey, who's going to make the sacrifice for Trump?
[00:26:30]  Hey, who's going to push the boundary for Trump?
[00:26:32]  Hey, who's going to go out there and lead from the front here and clear the way for the rest of us?
[00:26:37]  And they're all just looking at one another and none of them.
[00:26:40]  The answer is none of them.
[00:26:42]  And the ones that try to do that aren't popular, aren't cool, aren't charismatic.
[00:26:47]  So they're desperate.
[00:26:50]  And they need Dinesh D'Souza now to try to go out and convince you to vote Republican.
[00:26:56]  And that's, of course, not going to work.
[00:26:58]  So there is no team.
[00:26:59]  He says it's fought in teams.
[00:27:01]  You guys are the ones that shrank the roster.
[00:27:04]  You guys are the ones that blew up the team.
[00:27:07]  You guys did that.
[00:27:08]  And now you're saying, oops, we're sorry.
[00:27:10]  We actually need your vote.
[00:27:12]  There's no way forward other than Trump, he says.
[00:27:14]  Really?
[00:27:15]  Because Trump has gone in two years.
[00:27:16]  So I think there has to be another way forward outside of Trump.
[00:27:21]  And you guys also engage in censorship and political targeting now.
[00:27:24]  So that doesn't really work either.
[00:27:28]  Not to mention, and this is the biggest one of them all, this is what we did in 2024.
[00:27:36]  We're living in the aftermath and we're getting nothing.
[00:27:39]  And that's the big problem.
[00:27:41]  We already did this.
[00:27:42]  We coalesced, we built the coalition, we built the big tent populist movement with Trump, behind Trump, all of us.
[00:27:52]  We did that so that we could be here today.
[00:27:56]  That was the entire point of 2024 and winning the House and winning the Senate and getting Trump in office was that so we could be here today.
[00:28:06]  This wasn't so we could do it for 2026.
[00:28:11]  This was so we could be here today and nothing is getting done.
[00:28:14]  And because nothing is getting done, you guys have to go out here and beg us for votes and say we need to do it all over again.
[00:28:21]  No, we're not doing it all over again.
[00:28:23]  We already did it once and this is where we're at.
[00:28:25]  We're not insane people.
[00:28:28]  It didn't work.
[00:28:30]  That's what 2024 was, not 2026.
[00:28:33]  So the fact that they have to ask us to do the same thing over again in 2026 is total proof that they have failed.
[00:28:43]  So they are admitting they have failed.
[00:28:45]  They are admitting that they're lying to us about MAGA.
[00:28:50]  And now they also have to recognize that they need our votes and they need us back on the team.
[00:28:56]  But they can't.
[00:28:57]  Pitch us anything as far as success.
[00:28:59]  They can't pitch us anything as far as policy.
[00:29:02]  All they can say is, hey, we're not Democrats.
[00:29:06]  And that ain't going to work.
[00:29:09]  Because now many people are going to be curious.
[00:29:13]  Say, well, what are the Democrats going to do?
[00:29:15]  I know what Trump is and isn't going to do.
[00:29:17]  What are the Democrats going to do?
[00:29:18]  Maybe they want to find out.
[00:29:22]  So here's the other one, and this is going to be a little more direct as far as they're going to try to stop the influence of the people that Trump called out yesterday.
[00:29:32]  It's not going to work, but they're going to try.
[00:29:34]  Here's an example.
[00:29:37]  So Candace was selling this shirt after Trump got shot in Butler, supporting Trump.
[00:29:46]  So they're attacking her, saying, oh, see, she's a fraud.
[00:29:48]  The day after Donald Trump was almost assassinated, Candace Owens began selling Trump shirts on her website.
[00:29:53]  Emblazoned with her signature.
[00:29:55]  These people are vain, carny, trash with zero loyalty.
[00:29:58]  They don't truly believe anything.
[00:30:00]  It's all one big hustle.
[00:30:02]  You know, what's funny about this is, if anything, this actually proves this gives Candace Owens more credence, I would say.
[00:30:10]  It shows that she was a real Trump supporter.
[00:30:14]  And because Trump let her down, she's not supporting him anymore.
[00:30:17]  So I don't really understand how this is an attack on Candace.
[00:30:23]  But as far as loyalty is concerned, and this is that's a.
[00:30:28]  Remember that word.
[00:30:30]  And by the way, you want to talk about one big hustle?
[00:30:32]  Trump is the hustler here.
[00:30:34]  Trump is the one that just hustled everybody.
[00:30:36]  So let's calm down here.
[00:30:38]  You want to call anybody a hustler?
[00:30:39]  It's Trump.
[00:30:40]  But that word loyalty, this word is going to come up a lot, and it's very important we understand it in context.
[00:30:47]  Loyalty to what?
[00:30:51]  Loyalty to what or loyalty to who?
[00:30:54]  Because all of these people only know one thing, and that's loyalty to Trump.
[00:30:59]  That's all they know.
[00:31:01]  They don't have loyalty to the country.
[00:31:03]  They don't have loyalty to the truth.
[00:31:05]  All they have is loyalty to Trump.
[00:31:08]  And that's all they demand from you.
[00:31:09]  And you're sitting here saying, hey, I don't worship a man.
[00:31:12]  I don't have false idols.
[00:31:14]  I'm not in your cult of personality.
[00:31:17]  And if I'm going to be loyal to anything, I'm going to be loyal to the truth and I'm going to be loyal to the country.
[00:31:26]  And so, if you think being loyal to Trump is the main cause here, then you've already lost your way.
[00:31:32]  You've already lost your way.
[00:31:34]  And it's a weird way of admitting without saying it, you have accepted your role in the Trump cult.
[00:31:40]  And we're just not interested.
[00:31:43]  But these are going to be the messages.
[00:31:44]  So get ready.
[00:31:47]  They've realized the midterms are pretty effed right now.
[00:31:52]  So, this is how they're going to try to pitch it to you Hey, we got to get the team back together to defeat the Democrats.
[00:31:58]  Ain't going to work.
[00:32:01]  Hey, we got to be loyal to Trump.
[00:32:03]  Sorry, we're loyal to the country.
[00:32:05]  We're loyal to the truth, not a man.
[00:32:08]  So that's not going to work either.
[00:32:11]  But these are their pitches.
[00:32:13]  These are their pitches.
[00:32:14]  Now, I don't want to spend too much time on this, but there are some developments here.
[00:32:22]  Now, you may remember this story from a couple of weeks ago.
[00:32:24]  It's from last week.
[00:32:27]  It becomes relevant again today because there's some stuff going on.
[00:32:30]  And Melania did that.
[00:32:33]  Press conference yesterday that apparently Donald knew nothing about.
[00:32:36]  So, do you guys remember this from last month?
[00:32:40]  Trump friend asked ICE to detain the mother of his child, Paolo Zampoli, a former modeling agent and a longtime Trump ally, was in a custody battle over his son.
[00:32:51]  An ICE official agreed to help.
[00:32:54]  So, we covered the story.
[00:32:56]  Essentially, Trump uses ICE to deport people that his friends want out of the country.
[00:33:01]  This is maybe the most egregious case.
[00:33:04]  At least it's the most egregious case that we know about.
[00:33:06]  Now, We're learning more about Zampoli and his.
[00:33:13]  I don't think they were ever officially married.
[00:33:15]  I think that they kind of had like a sham marriage going on for a while, and then they had this custody battle.
[00:33:21]  But I think that this lady here, who I believe is in Brazil still, is what the reporting is.
[00:33:30]  He learned that his Brazilian ex girlfriend was in a Miami jail, arrested on charges of fraud at her workplace.
[00:33:36]  They had been in custody battle over their teenage son.
[00:33:38]  He saw an opportunity to have her deported.
[00:33:40]  He called Trump, had her deported.
[00:33:42]  So now, the woman, Amanda Ungaro, who got deported on a specific request from a Trump friend so that he could get her out of the country and, you know, I guess maybe win a custody battle.
[00:33:54]  We'll see how all of that goes.
[00:33:56]  But now it's looking like there was an interest from the Epstein class, which I think we all have to consider Trump a part of now.
[00:34:05]  There was an interest in the Epstein class to get Amanda out of the country because apparently Amanda has a lot of dirt.
[00:34:14]  Now, we don't know the full story, so I don't want to go into too much of the details that are coming out right now.
[00:34:21]  But I want to make you aware of this.
[00:34:23]  Amanda Ngaro, it would appear to me that there was kind of some hush hush stuff going on, and that maybe Amanda, you know, she knows some stuff, obviously.
[00:34:37]  And she's saying, look, I don't have to be a pest to you guys, I don't have to be a nuisance to this Epstein class.
[00:34:44]  You know, I just want to live in America and live with my son.
[00:34:48]  Just let me have my son.
[00:34:50]  Let me live in America and I don't need to be a problem for you guys.
[00:34:54]  Well, instead, a call was made and Trump made sure that she not only couldn't stay here, but she couldn't get access to her kid.
[00:35:03]  And it looks like she didn't take too kindly to that.
[00:35:06]  And it looks like now she's decided she might be a thorn in the side of the Epstein class.
[00:35:12]  Now, I don't know.
[00:35:13]  Is it so bad that she could commit suicide like so many others?
[00:35:18]  I don't think this story is going away.
[00:35:21]  Now, the question is based off of what Melania did yesterday, the question is Is Melania working for President Trump when she does this?
[00:35:36]  Is she doing this press conference in her own interests as maybe a safety net in case things go sideways?
[00:35:46]  Was it a shot across the bow to her husband?
[00:35:50]  For some other personal reason or Epstein reason?
[00:35:55]  Is she looking at this thing as like it's going south and she wants to separate herself?
[00:36:00]  All of these are fair questions.
[00:36:01]  And if she is working for her husband, then she did that as a distraction, whatever a favor.
[00:36:07]  He told her to do it and then pretended he didn't.
[00:36:11]  I don't think anybody can be so sure about this right now.
[00:36:13]  We can only go off the information we have.
[00:36:16]  Regardless, I think this is about to rear its ugly head.
[00:36:23]  I think there's about to be some massive developments here.
[00:36:27]  And obviously, they did not want Pam Bondi to testify about the Epstein files.
[00:36:34]  They obviously didn't want that.
[00:36:35]  So they fired her, made sure she wouldn't testify.
[00:36:38]  The Oversight Committee is saying she's going to anyway.
[00:36:41]  We'll see.
[00:36:42]  But it looks like now there's something, something is about to drop in this Epstein story.
[00:36:49]  Something, something big is about to hit.
[00:36:52]  It's going to directly impact the White House.
[00:36:55]  And there's apparently some panicking going on behind the scenes.
[00:36:59]  And it started last month when they deported Amanda.
[00:37:06]  And the craziest part of what we know right here is that they literally used ICE to deport somebody that was a threat to the Epstein class.
[00:37:20]  That's what they did, folks.
[00:37:23]  They identified this woman as a threat to the Epstein class.
[00:37:27]  And they used ice to get her out of the country.
[00:37:29]  So I couldn't help but wonder, and you might say it was legitimate.
[00:37:33]  Okay.
[00:37:36]  I'm not here to defend the legal status of Amanda Ungaro.
[00:37:39]  Let me be clear.
[00:37:40]  I'm covering this from the Epstein saga angle.
[00:37:44]  So I can't help but ask is this the only person that Trump or the White House or the Epstein class, is this the only person that they have used ice to get out of the country and shut up?
[00:38:03]  I can't help.
[00:38:05]  I just can't help but think the answer to that is no.
[00:38:09]  If they're willing to do it with one person, you don't think they're willing to do it with two or three or four or however many they want?
[00:38:17]  Couldn't help but wonder.
[00:38:19]  And I know we covered it last month and it was kind of more of a surface level thing.
[00:38:24]  And now that we're getting beneath the surface, it's looking worse and it's looking like, oh, they might have been using ICE to deport.
[00:38:35]  People that were a threat to the Epstein class.
[00:38:38]  And once they got them all out of here, they shut it down.
[00:38:41]  They shut the mass deportations down.
[00:38:43]  Now I'm going way off onto a conspiracy theory here.
[00:38:46]  I accept that.
[00:38:48]  I just couldn't help but wonder now that we see more of the details, and it looks like this deportation was not just a friendly favor.

=== Changing Headlines Off Iran Speech (03:06) ===

[00:38:58]  This wasn't just Trump's friend saying, hey, man, I need a favor.
[00:39:02]  I'm in a custody battle.
[00:39:05]  The mother is in ICE detention right now.
[00:39:08]  Can we just go ahead and You know, can we just, can you do me a favor, Mr. President?
[00:39:13]  You know, we've, you know, I don't need to say, you know, dirt stuff.
[00:39:17]  We don't need to go there, but can you just do me a favor?
[00:39:19]  Would you just, okay, yeah, we'll get her out.
[00:39:22]  No problem.
[00:39:24]  No, now it's looking like it was more than just a personal favor.
[00:39:27]  Now it's looking like the Epstein class said, hey, we got to get her out of here.
[00:39:32]  She is now a threat to this entire thing that already has way too much attention on it.
[00:39:38]  Get her the hell out of here.
[00:39:41]  So, if they're willing to do that for one Epstein class victim, what would stop them from doing it to however many they want?
[00:39:51]  And I'm now starting to wonder how many people were deported by ICE that were a threat to the administration and who knows what their legal status was.
[00:40:03]  And then it's like once they identified all the threats, not to the country, once they identified all the threats to the Epstein class and they got them all removed, they stopped doing the deportations.
[00:40:15]  That's my conspiracy theory for the day.
[00:40:17]  Yes, that's a conspiracy theory.
[00:40:19]  It's okay.
[00:40:22]  But there is an element of truth that leads me down that train of thought.
[00:40:28]  Now, what happens next in the Epstein saga?
[00:40:33]  But this thing is not going away, especially after what Melania did yesterday.
[00:40:38]  And man, if it's true that Donald did not know she was going to do that, he had a really bad day yesterday.
[00:40:49]  And maybe that's why he decided to fire off that post.
[00:40:54]  Because you have to, I think it's, let's say, when you study how Trump operates, Trump always has a deck of cards and he decides to play his cards whenever it's advantageous for him to play it.
[00:41:08]  It's kind of like with firing Bondi.
[00:41:10]  He knew he was going to fire Bondi, it was just a matter of when.
[00:41:16]  And so he fired Bondi.
[00:41:19]  To get the headlines off of his disastrous Iran speech.
[00:41:25]  His Iran speech was a disaster the night before.
[00:41:27]  So the next day he fires Bondi to change the headlines.
[00:41:30]  He knew he was going to fire her before she had to testify for a second time.
[00:41:34]  So he had that card in his deck and then he used it to distract from his disastrous Iran speech.
[00:41:39]  So maybe yesterday he had the attack on Tucker and Megyn Kelly and Candace and Alex.
[00:41:45]  He had that card in the deck.
[00:41:47]  Melania comes out, brings the Epstein stuff back to the front.
[00:41:51]  You know, it's definitely not a hoax.
[00:41:53]  And so then Trump fires off that post to change the headlines off of Melania.
[00:42:00]  And you know what's sad about it all?

=== Insider Trading Angle Destroys Trump (16:32) ===

[00:42:05]  You know what's so sad about all of it?
[00:42:09]  Is that this is what the administration has become some reality TV show drama instead of actually working for the country and trying to fix the country.
[00:42:19]  This is the crap we're dealing with because of Trump now.
[00:42:26]  So there's a reason why you're not getting America First policy.
[00:42:31]  There's a reason why Trump.
[00:42:33]  Don't even seem to have a clue what's going on as far as the American people are concerned.
[00:42:38]  He's got his own issues and he's weighted down by his own issues, is what's going on here, guys.
[00:42:46]  All right, let's look at some of this economic news.
[00:42:49]  I'm going to be joined by Dan Bilzerian in 15 minutes.
[00:42:54]  But yikes, guys, yikes.
[00:42:57]  March inflation jumps to 3.3% as gasoline prices post largest increase amid Iran war.
[00:43:06]  The gasoline index saw its largest monthly increase since the series was first published in 1967.
[00:43:14]  21, I think it was 21.2.
[00:43:16]  What was the number?
[00:43:17]  Is it in this one?
[00:43:19]  Yes, 21.2.
[00:43:21]  Gas prices increased 21.2% in the month of March.
[00:43:27]  That is a record.
[00:43:30]  And if you look at this graph here, you can see the increase in prices across the board.
[00:43:36]  It's not good.
[00:43:38]  It's not good, guys.
[00:43:40]  The economy is not good.
[00:43:41]  It's not getting any better.
[00:43:42]  It's actually getting worse.
[00:43:45]  It's actually getting worse.
[00:43:46]  And this is everywhere today, guys.
[00:43:49]  This is everywhere.
[00:43:50]  CPI report shows inflation surged in March as the Iran war drove up energy costs.
[00:43:57]  It's nice that we're willing to hurt the American people and crash the economy for Israel.
[00:44:02]  It's a good thing.
[00:44:02]  It's a good thing we're sacrificing America for the sake of Israel's interest in the Middle East, guys, don't you think?
[00:44:09]  Aren't you happy that the cost of living is going up?
[00:44:11]  Hey, at least you're getting a war for Israel.
[00:44:13]  Soaring pump prices drive U.S. inflation to highest level in almost two years.
[00:44:18]  It's worse than Biden.
[00:44:20]  How do you like that?
[00:44:22]  I could do these headlines all day long.
[00:44:23]  They're everywhere, guys.
[00:44:24]  I'm telling you, it was top story on almost every news outlet today.
[00:44:29]  U.S. inflation tripled last month on record spike in gas prices.
[00:44:35]  And then, okay, so now we get into, huh.
[00:44:41]  I don't even know if the Democrats are smart enough to go after Trump with this angle.
[00:44:51]  I don't even know if they're smart enough.
[00:44:52]  There might be one or two Democrats in there that might be smart enough.
[00:44:56]  I think that this might actually be the angle that could destroy Trump.
[00:45:01]  More so than was it legal for him to go to war with Iran?
[00:45:05]  Was it legal for him to blow up those drug boats?
[00:45:11]  It's going to be the insider trading.
[00:45:13]  Because to me, he's so caught up in this now, it's undeniable.
[00:45:19]  And that's without even any real investigation.
[00:45:22]  Trump praises Palantir with stock down 15% this week as Iran conflict drags on.
[00:45:29]  So, some weird truth social posts from Trump today.
[00:45:33]  Just really weird.
[00:45:35]  President Donald Trump lauded Palantir in a post to Truth Social on Friday as the stock headed for a plunge this week.
[00:45:42]  And of course, we all know about Palantir and its AI technology and the U.S. government.
[00:45:48]  And then there's been some other stories around Palantir stock, which was skyrocketing after Trump got in.
[00:45:55]  And then it's been going down.
[00:45:57]  And so, why is Trump?
[00:45:59]  And he posted the actual stock label.
[00:46:04]  Why is Trump pumping Palantir stock today, guys?
[00:46:10]  Somebody make sense of that.
[00:46:13]  Explain to me why the president of the United States is using his platform to try to pump.
[00:46:20]  Palantir stock.
[00:46:24]  Now, when I saw this, it actually went down 3%.
[00:46:27]  I don't know where it is now.
[00:46:31]  I feel like a genius, I have to say.
[00:46:33]  I sold Palantir when it was at its all time high.
[00:46:36]  I never went back.
[00:46:37]  So I'll have to.
[00:46:38]  Let me scroll, see where it's at.
[00:46:43]  It looked like it didn't help, though.
[00:46:46]  It looked like Trump's attempt to pump Palantir did not.
[00:46:51]  Work.
[00:46:52]  And so it, no, I guess it did get a little pump, but it's still down about 2% today.
[00:47:00]  So it was 3% after he posted it.
[00:47:03]  Now it's 2%.
[00:47:05]  So that didn't really work.
[00:47:08]  That didn't really go so well.
[00:47:14]  Regardless of the impact, why is Trump trying to do a pump of Palantir?
[00:47:21]  I mean, I'm asking it a bit facetiously, right?
[00:47:28]  This has to be the biggest insider trading administration ever.
[00:47:31]  And I don't even think there's anything else on the map.
[00:47:35]  I don't even think there's anything else to compare it to, actually.
[00:47:39]  And now, I think they're about to do another one.
[00:47:47]  Because the White House is putting out statements.
[00:47:50]  Oh, what do you know?
[00:47:52]  As soon as the stock market closes tonight, they're going to make a decision about Iran.
[00:47:57]  So don't be surprised if there's some bombing of Iran tonight.
[00:48:03]  It's like they're already signaling.
[00:48:05]  I don't know the code words, but that's what this looks like.
[00:48:08]  It's like there's some sort of a code word that either comes from Trump or comes out of the administration, whatever it makes its way into the media, and that's the sign to either sell or buy.
[00:48:20]  And this has been the case for the last month, guys.
[00:48:24]  This has been the case for the last month.
[00:48:26]  And if you've been following the market since Trump got in, which I have been more than any other time in my life, and I've explained this before, I don't want to go into it, but I mean, folks, if you follow the Trump administration and you kind of pick up on the cues, that's not a cue on on thing.
[00:48:45]  I mean, like the messaging, you can get ahead of the market and you can ride the waves of the insider traders.
[00:48:54]  It's so obvious.
[00:48:58]  So I'm sitting here and I'm like, oh, what are they?
[00:49:01]  They said, okay, two weeks.
[00:49:03]  We're going to delay this two weeks.
[00:49:05]  We're going to have these peace talks.
[00:49:06]  And then they come out today and they're like, well, actually, we're going to know something as soon as the stock market closes tonight.
[00:49:12]  And there was a major.
[00:49:13]  And so yesterday was a big pump.
[00:49:15]  Today was a big dump, major sell off today, which tells me they might attack Iran tonight.
[00:49:20]  And they're just getting ready for another dump over the weekend.
[00:49:23]  And it's going to go way down next week.
[00:49:25]  And then they're going to pump it back up.
[00:49:27]  Don't use this as stock trading advice, by the way.
[00:49:30]  I'm just telling you, it was.
[00:49:34]  Here's Trump trying to pump the markets.
[00:49:37]  Was that a paid post on social?
[00:49:39]  Was that a paid post on Trump Truth Social to pump the stock?
[00:49:43]  Because I will tell you this one of the offers that I've received, one of the many offers I've received for paid social media posts is stock market stuff.
[00:49:54]  And when you accept these deals, which I've never done one, but if you take one of these deals to do some digital media promotion, They send you the post and it always has the stock call on there.
[00:50:08]  So, you know, Palantir, PLTR, I believe it is.
[00:50:12]  Or if it's like a Rumble thing, it's RUM.
[00:50:15]  So they always make sure that you put the actual stock call letters in there because they want people to go out and buy the stock, obviously.
[00:50:21]  So why is Trump doing that today?
[00:50:23]  Is that a paid promotion?
[00:50:25]  Is this because the Trump family has interest in it?
[00:50:28]  I mean, seriously, that just looks like they're not even trying to hide the corruption anymore.
[00:50:32]  It's like, you know what?
[00:50:34]  Screw it.
[00:50:34]  Let's just openly show how we're pumping and dumping and rigging the market.
[00:50:39]  So, I think this one is even worse when it comes to impeachment.
[00:50:45]  Obviously, the Democrats are going to go after the war in Iran, no congressional approval.
[00:50:50]  The Democrats are going to go after bombing the boats, no congressional approval, no proof, the double tapping, all of it, the killing of schoolgirls.
[00:50:58]  The Democrats are obviously going to go after all of that in impeachment should we get there.
[00:51:01]  But I think this could be the one because, you know, war, how many people can really follow and keep up with the complexities of war?
[00:51:13]  And all the different legal interpretations of what's constitutional and what's not.
[00:51:18]  Everybody understands money.
[00:51:22]  Everybody gets money.
[00:51:24]  That's not as complex.
[00:51:25]  Now, you could say the stock market, insider trading, maybe that's a little more complex, but people get it.
[00:51:30]  They don't need some explanation.
[00:51:32]  Oh, you're stealing money.
[00:51:35]  Oh, you're rigging the stock market.
[00:51:36]  Oh, you're doing insider trading.
[00:51:38]  People pick up on that instantaneously.
[00:51:40]  I think that could end up being worse.
[00:51:44]  For Trump, than the war stuff, should the Democrats decide to take that angle?
[00:51:52]  But that's not all.
[00:51:54]  That's not all.
[00:51:56]  Trump backed WLFI token drops 12% to record lows after Team Defense's multi million lending position.
[00:52:06]  Oh my gosh, folks.
[00:52:10]  I'm not the expert on this.
[00:52:12]  I went and watched some breakdowns.
[00:52:14]  I'll try to explain it briefly as we're about to hit the hour here and get Dan Bilzerian on.
[00:52:18]  World Liberty Financial responded to Coindesk's reporting by saying it would simply supply more collateral if markets moved against this.
[00:52:25]  A statement that did not reassure holders.
[00:52:29]  Folks, it sounds like to the people that are following this that the Trump team just did a massive rug pull again and just essentially took a bunch of money and can't guarantee they're even going to be able to pay it back.
[00:52:43]  So it looks like the Trump team covered their losses by pulling money out of this deal.
[00:52:47]  And now the investors are like shaking their head, like, wait, what?
[00:52:50]  And there's no guarantee that it'll ever come back.
[00:52:53]  It just looks like pure corruption.
[00:52:54]  There's no other way to put it.
[00:52:55]  But don't worry, despite all the rug pulls, In the crypto world, they're going to do it all again.
[00:53:01]  Trump team schedules Mar a Lago meme coin conference for April 25th.
[00:53:05]  So they're just going to do it again.
[00:53:09]  They're just going to do it again.
[00:53:10]  And then look at this White House warned staff not to place bets on prediction markets amid Iran war.
[00:53:19]  So that means that they were.
[00:53:21]  I mean, folks, the insider trading here, I don't think they're going to be able to keep it under wraps much longer.
[00:53:28]  And I think when it comes to impeachment, this one is going to be worse for Trump than even the war stuff because everybody can understand it.
[00:53:37]  And I think it'll be a lot less into the weeds as far as theory and understanding is concerned.
[00:53:44]  It's going to be like cut and dry understanding.
[00:53:46]  This is blatant insider trading.
[00:53:49]  And it doesn't even seem that they're even trying to be subtle or hide it anymore.
[00:53:56]  Listening to the Owen Report on the Wynn Network.

=== Double Standard On Anti-Semitism (15:39) ===

[00:58:38]  Political Compass, the Owen Report with Owen Schroyer.
[00:58:52]  All right, guys, we're moments away from being joined by Dan Bilzerian running for Congress against Randy Fine.
[00:59:02]  Talk about a swamp monster, talk about a foreign loyalist.
[00:59:07]  Now, before we do get Dan on, I want to play the viral clip.
[00:59:12]  And of course, this is the clip that TMZ wants everybody to see because they think it's some sort of a victory for them or some sort of a victory against Dan.
[00:59:19]  It's definitely not the victory that they think it is.
[00:59:23]  But here's the big viral clip that they posted, got millions of views.
[00:59:28]  And I do want to at least give Dan the chance to really answer the questions because they were constantly talking over him, asking him multiple questions so that he couldn't even really get a real answer in there.
[00:59:40]  So we're going to give him that opportunity.
[00:59:44]  But first, in case you haven't seen it, here's the clip.
[00:59:46]  I think, honestly, I think the clip is hilarious.
[00:59:50]  And if they think that this somehow makes Dan look bad, I have to disagree on that.
[00:59:55]  As well.
[00:59:56]  I think Dan came out on top of this conversation, but here it is from earlier this week.
[01:00:01]  You called your opponent this fat Jew.
[01:00:05]  So he's not from Israel, but you called a guy in Florida this fat Jew.
[01:00:10]  How is that not anti Semitic?
[01:00:13]  Well, he's a Jewish supremacist and he puts Israel before America.
[01:00:16]  And I think that, you know, he should be tried for treason.
[01:00:19]  This fat Jew is anti Semitic.
[01:00:22]  Yes.
[01:00:23]  I mean, that's what you say, but how do I know?
[01:00:27]  That's what I know.
[01:00:28]  I don't say it.
[01:00:29]  I know.
[01:00:30]  He literally talks about how Muslims are lower than dogs.
[01:00:32]  So is that Islamophobic?
[01:00:35]  Yes.
[01:00:35]  Yes.
[01:00:36]  Yes, it is.
[01:00:37]  And that wouldn't be, that's not appropriate for him to say either.
[01:00:40]  If he had said that.
[01:00:41]  But he does all the time.
[01:00:43]  And he tweets that.
[01:00:44]  And he's a senator.
[01:00:45]  Are you anti Semitic?
[01:00:46]  No, I'm not anti Semitic.
[01:00:48]  I think that, you know, that's kind of a made up term.
[01:00:51]  I think the Palestinians are the made up term.
[01:00:53]  Yes.
[01:00:55]  Because if you look at what a Semite is.
[01:00:57]  Was Hitler anti Semitic?
[01:00:59]  What's that?
[01:00:59]  Was Hitler anti Semitic?
[01:01:02]  Like I said, it's the term is focused solely on Jews, but actual Semites are the Arabs and Palestinians are Semites as well.
[01:01:12]  And they actually have more DNA lineage to that region than any of the Eastern European Ashkenazi Jews that have taken it from them.
[01:01:19]  So I kind of have an issue with that term and how it's been hijacked only by Jews.
[01:01:24]  So if you want to call it anti Jewish, then you can call it anti Jewish.
[01:01:27]  Well, I'm not going to call this anti Jewish.
[01:01:29]  When you say that this fat Jew, you.
[01:01:33]  You know, you could take another race and you could use another epithet, but you're anti Semitic then.
[01:01:38]  I'm not.
[01:01:39]  I have Jewish friends.
[01:01:40]  You said like your best friends are Jewish?
[01:01:42]  You're all Jews with one brush, but he paints all Muslims with one brush and it's accepted.
[01:01:47]  And for some reason in this country, it is okay to just blast Muslims, bash them.
[01:01:52]  You look at what Bill Maher said about Muslims.
[01:01:54]  I mean, it's this double standard, and I don't like the double standard.
[01:01:58]  And I look at him as a Jewish supremacist.
[01:02:01]  He believes that, you know, Jews are better than other people and he puts Israel before America.
[01:02:06]  So if you're If you've got a black friend that you don't like, do you use the N word on him?
[01:02:12]  No.
[01:02:13]  What's the difference when you use the word fat Jew for a Jew you don't like?
[01:02:18]  Is Jew the same as N?
[01:02:19]  Because that is not the same.
[01:02:21]  That's not one is a slur, right?
[01:02:23]  And one is describing a religion.
[01:02:26]  So you can't compare the two.
[01:02:29]  There's a way you say it.
[01:02:30]  How can you compare those two?
[01:02:31]  There's a way you say it, Dan, that the intent is the same.
[01:02:35]  It's not the same at all.
[01:02:36]  So one is a slur, one is a racial slur that I don't use.
[01:02:42]  And the other thing is, you just used it.
[01:02:44]  Well, are we adults?
[01:02:46]  Can we talk about a word?
[01:02:47]  So, was a word so offensive that it just, you know, you can't say it?
[01:02:52]  We have to say the whole thing.
[01:02:53]  The answer to that is yes.
[01:02:54]  So, I want to ask a question.
[01:02:56]  So, I'm going to get into the logical inconsistencies of that.
[01:03:01]  And I'm going to get the response from Dan here, joining us in a moment.
[01:03:08]  Now, I sit there, I watch Harry Leven, I think is his name.
[01:03:12]  Is that the name of the TMZ guy?
[01:03:16]  Let me see.
[01:03:19]  Harvey Levin, Harvey Levin, who's in the Epstein files, by the way.
[01:03:24]  Who's in the Epstein files, by the way.
[01:03:29]  Four times Harvey said fat Jew.
[01:03:32]  Four times.
[01:03:33]  It's like he's the one that wanted to say it.
[01:03:37]  Harvey seems to be the one in this conversation that wanted to say it so badly.
[01:03:44]  And so you can say it's for shock value, it's for the purposes of putting a little heat into this interview.
[01:03:52]  Okay, perhaps.
[01:03:53]  And yet, they want to make the claim in the same conversation where he emphatically says fat Jew.
[01:04:01]  Like he wants fat Jew.
[01:04:03]  Like that's Harvey Lynch four times fat Jew.
[01:04:06]  It's like he wanted to say it more than anything.
[01:04:09]  But I guess since he's Jewish, it's okay, right?
[01:04:11]  I mean, that's the idea.
[01:04:13]  So it's like, oh, you know, if you're black, you can use the N word or whatever.
[01:04:16]  If you're Jewish, you can say Jew.
[01:04:18]  So they want to make this parallel that somehow Jew is the same as any other racial slur.
[01:04:27]  And so, but it's funny because they didn't censor Jew when Bilzerian.
[01:04:33]  What are we going to do, guys?
[01:04:35]  Are we going to say it or not?
[01:04:36]  I don't know.
[01:04:37]  I was thinking about adding a beep.
[01:04:39]  I did add this.
[01:04:40]  Okay.
[01:04:40]  So if we're going to use the forbidden word, that can be our sign for the forbidden word.
[01:04:48]  So they censored the forbidden word, but they didn't censor Jew.
[01:04:54]  So how are they going to make that parallel and then censor Dan when he says one word and then not?
[01:05:01]  Censor the other word out.
[01:05:02]  So there's a logical inconsistency there, but they missed the point that Dan was making.
[01:05:07]  And this is why I want Dan to come on and respond to this.
[01:05:12]  They missed the point is that, and that's because they probably don't even follow politics.
[01:05:16]  They didn't even know that Randy Fine had said this stuff.
[01:05:19]  The point is that Randy is the one that is spewing the anti Islamic stuff.
[01:05:25]  And they say, oh, that's Islamophobic.
[01:05:26]  He shouldn't be allowed to do that.
[01:05:27]  And yet, TMZ not one time criticized Randy Fine for any of the Islamophobic statements.
[01:05:33]  Randy Fine has not been told he's unfit for office because of any Islamophobia.
[01:05:38]  And yet, somehow, Dan is going to be held to some different standard if you're talking about Jewish people instead of Muslim people.
[01:05:45]  So, Dan Bilzerian joins me now.
[01:05:48]  You know, Dan, first, I just want to give you a platform here.
[01:05:54]  If there's anything you want to say in response to that clip, because obviously they tried to clip that out to make you look bad, they didn't get you a clip of the policy arguments, they didn't get you a clip on the issue with dual loyalty.
[01:06:06]  They go with a clip like that, which is viral, but I think it made you look good, quite frankly.
[01:06:12]  I think you come out looking good in that, not them.
[01:06:14]  But is there anything in the aftermath of that that you're like, hold on a second?
[01:06:18]  I need to clarify some of the things that were said and some of the things that weren't said.
[01:06:23]  Not really.
[01:06:25]  I mean, I thought it was kind of a ridiculous interview.
[01:06:29]  I will say, though, they did go twice as hard on Randy after I think they saw like 97% of their comments across five platforms were all in support of me.
[01:06:40]  So I don't know if that was because they wanted me back on there or because they knew that their audience was, you know, on my side, but they definitely roasted him pretty good.
[01:06:53]  Isn't it funny though?
[01:06:55]  Oh, wow, I didn't realize Randy Fine was an Islamophobe.
[01:06:58]  I didn't realize Randy Fine was a bigot.
[01:07:01]  Doesn't that prove the double standard?
[01:07:03]  Because to me, that's kind of what got lost in the conversation was that you were simply putting out a double standard.
[01:07:08]  You were exposing the double standard.
[01:07:10]  It didn't even register to them.
[01:07:12]  And then it's like, oh, yeah, we didn't even know Randy Fine was a bigot.
[01:07:16]  It's like, isn't that the point?
[01:07:18]  Like, you don't.
[01:07:21]  That's exactly it.
[01:07:22]  It's the hypocrisy.
[01:07:23]  Of you know, you can't say anything about Jews, but you can just blast Muslims.
[01:07:28]  You know, you got Bill Maher going on national television saying that Islam is the mother load of bad ideas, and that's kind of where we're at in this country there is a massive double standard.
[01:07:40]  Um, and I'm not gonna beat around the bush, I'm just gonna come out and say it like I think that Jews are causing a disproportionate amount of problems in the United States, and I think that Jewish supremacy is the greatest threat to the world today.
[01:07:53]  Um, and I'm not gonna dance around that issue, that's just the facts.
[01:07:58]  You know, if they want to come up with made up words like anti Semite, which, like I said, it's a completely nonsensical word.
[01:08:04]  I mean, the Arabs are the actual.
[01:08:06]  I mean, if we're actually talking about anti Semitism, then you would say that Israel is the most anti Semitic place on the planet because they're conducting a genocide against Semites.
[01:08:15]  But the problem is they've weaponized the word and they've used the word solely to focus on, you know, Jewish victimhood, which is pretty much non existent.
[01:08:25]  But they use that card, like they use the Holocaust over and over and over and over again.
[01:08:32]  And I think we're just tired of hearing it, you know.
[01:08:34]  Like, I'm just done with it.
[01:08:36]  I don't want to hear the word anymore.
[01:08:38]  The reason that I spent so much time clarifying is because I think it's important for people to understand that this isn't like some word that's existed for a long time.
[01:08:45]  This is kind of something that they came up with to, you know, it's like a canard or a trope or all these words that Jews have to describe blood libel, you know, whatever it is, to describe things that they are actually guilty of, but they name it, you know, something else or.
[01:09:03]  They come up with a word that sounds really bad and they just say it over and over and over and over again, like anti Semite.
[01:09:09]  And for a while, you know, when we believe this Jewish victim narrative, you know, the word had a lot of power, but now we're seeing it so overused.
[01:09:19]  And when it's, you know, any kind of a criticism of Israel is now anti Semitic and it's anti Semitic to, you know, want pedophiles to be brought to justice and it's anti Semitic to want to stop a genocide, it's just like, fuck off.
[01:09:33]  You know, like at this point, like that word is just, it's just nonsense.
[01:09:37]  And I'm not going to give it any credibility by saying, yes, I'm anti Semitic, or no, I'm not anti Semitic.
[01:09:45]  It's just nonsense.
[01:09:47]  The word is just complete horseshit.
[01:09:49]  Well, and it's woke in its presentation.
[01:09:52]  It's woke in the effectiveness that they want it to have.
[01:09:56]  You are running as a Republican, correct?
[01:09:59]  Yes.
[01:10:00]  So the reason why I ask this is because let's come at it through the left-right paradigm here for a second, even though I think both of us would probably agree the left-right paradigm is kind of useless right now, but it is still there.
[01:10:14]  So the reason why I come at this from the right is there's a conversation that we have on the right that, People from the left will come out and say, Oh, that's racist.
[01:10:22]  I'm talking about crime rates and demographics and per capita.
[01:10:27]  This is a conversation that happens all the time on the right.
[01:10:30]  And you talk about how the majority of crimes per capita are committed in America by black people.
[01:10:35]  Now, on the right, you're allowed to have this conversation.
[01:10:38]  You're allowed to talk about it, look at the numbers.
[01:10:40]  And if a liberal Democrat comes out and says, Oh, that's racist, you say, Now hold on a second.
[01:10:45]  These are facts.
[01:10:46]  These are factual things that we're talking about here.
[01:10:49]  A certain demographic committing the vast majority of the crime.
[01:10:52]  These are facts.
[01:10:53]  You say, Oh, well, that's.
[01:10:53]  That's not racist.
[01:10:54]  That's a fact.
[01:10:55]  The left says it's racist.
[01:10:56]  Okay.
[01:10:56]  So now we're on the right side of the angle.
[01:10:58]  You just said something about Jews that you know people are going to freak out about.
[01:11:01]  And I just say, well, hold on a second.
[01:11:03]  If you're willing to talk about an issue and say, here's a demographic connection to this issue, why can't you do the thing on the right?
[01:11:12]  So if you come out and you say, I think that there is a disproportionate amount of Jewish influence or Jewish money or Jewish power or lobbying in American politics, why is that?
[01:11:28]  Because that's really the word, anti Semite.
[01:11:30]  We'll get back into that in a second.
[01:11:31]  They're really just calling you racist.
[01:11:33]  So, how come it's, if you're on the right, I'm looking for some logical consistency here.
[01:11:37]  How come you're allowed to talk about demographics and trends when it comes to crime statistics, but you're not allowed to talk about it if you're talking about political influence and a different demographic?
[01:11:49]  To me, there's an inconsistency there.
[01:11:52]  Let me just zoom out and solve that equation for you.
[01:11:57]  It is because.
[01:11:59]  All of this is coming from the people that are in control.
[01:12:03]  You cannot criticize the people that are in power.
[01:12:06]  And this whole thing of wokeness, like, yes, that's a problem, but it is only attributed to the left.
[01:12:15]  And that is what is coming from the Jewish media.
[01:12:18]  The Jewish media is who feeds the left these talking points.
[01:12:22]  They are the ones that are making the left crazy.
[01:12:24]  The left is just following, you know, they're just following the narrative.
[01:12:27]  They're just following what CNN tells them.
[01:12:29]  They're just following what Hollywood tells them.
[01:12:31]  And so, What you have is you have the right looking at the left like, oh, these are a bunch of crazy people.
[01:12:38]  And I think it's just bad programming.
[01:12:40]  So I don't get mad at the left.
[01:12:42]  I get mad at the people that are feeding the left their talking points.
[01:12:46]  And you ask why you can't criticize Jews is because they are the ones that are actually controlling all of this.
[01:12:51]  That's why it doesn't matter if you vote Democrat or you vote Republican, you still get $100 billion sent to Israel, $100 billion sent to Ukraine, whatever.
[01:13:01]  You still are supporting these Jewish causes because at the end of the day, Those are the people that are actually pulling the string.
[01:13:08]  So, if we want to talk about the real crux of the problem, it's Jewish supremacy.
[01:13:12]  It's not a left versus right.
[01:13:14]  It's not a Christian versus Muslim.
[01:13:15]  It's not white versus black.
[01:13:17]  It is Jew versus Gentile.
[01:13:19]  And I know that that's going to be, you know, this crazy thing that you can't fucking say, but I'm tired of dancing around the issue.
[01:13:26]  I want to give you an opportunity to clarify what I think you were trying to get to before you were interrupted during that interview, which it's really so funny to, I mean, honestly, I mean, Dan, I'll admit maybe I'm a little biased because you and I have conversations.
[01:13:43]  I don't talk to the boys over there at TMZ, but to me, you came off as much more well rounded and understood.
[01:13:51]  They kind of came off like beta cucks during that interview, but they were interrupting you and you didn't really get this point across and you were trying to explain how, hey, You guys are okay with Randy Fine being Islamophobic.
[01:14:05]  Nobody's calling for Randy Fine to be removed from office or he's too bigoted or he's too racist when he bashes Muslims all day.
[01:14:11]  But all of a sudden, you offer one criticism of Jewish people, and now all of a sudden, you can't run.
[01:14:16]  You're a bigot.

=== Attack On Whites Ignored By Media (16:48) ===

[01:14:17]  You're not qualified.
[01:14:19]  It's like that's the double standard that you were trying to explain.
[01:14:22]  I don't even think it registered with them, though, Dan.
[01:14:25]  It's like they were too low IQ to even understand what you were saying.
[01:14:29]  And maybe that's because they were ignorant, as you were pointing out.
[01:14:32]  Once they found out, okay, there is something there, they came around.
[01:14:36]  How much of this, how much of what your campaign is going to do?
[01:14:40]  How much of it is it about breaking down those walls and getting some logical consistency so that people can see the whole spectrum of conversation and not just the limited spectrum they want us to see?
[01:14:52]  I mean, that's a part of it, but I want to get in there and shake the motherfucking tree.
[01:14:56]  I want to dismantle the Fed.
[01:14:58]  I want to get rid of the IRS.
[01:15:00]  I want to get rid of the ATF.
[01:15:01]  Like, I want to shrink government.
[01:15:03]  I want to prosecute anybody for treason that has, that's serving an office that has more allegiance to a foreign country than the US.
[01:15:12]  Like, I want to really enact change.
[01:15:14]  I don't want to just like say this stupid bullshit talking points that the Republicans say on their side and the left reads all their little fucking bullshit and then nothing ever changes.
[01:15:23]  Nothing ever happens.
[01:15:25]  Like, I want to get in there and actually really throw a fucking grenade in the toilet.
[01:15:29]  Like, I want change.
[01:15:30]  I want this government to stop operating in the best interest of a foreign nation.
[01:15:37]  I want this government to focus on the United States.
[01:15:39]  Like, I want an actual America verse.
[01:15:41]  I want all the things that Trump promised us and then just completely fucking rug pulled and lied to us about.
[01:15:46]  That's what I want.
[01:15:47]  And I don't, and I also want to enact laws to where if you say that you're going to do something when you get in office and you just fucking lie to everybody and then do the opposite, I think you should be prosecuted for that.
[01:15:58]  And I think you should be impeached for that.
[01:16:00]  I think that there should be actual culpability with what you say.
[01:16:03]  Like, I think if you're going to make a promise, you're going to run on something and you don't do it, you should be fucking held accountable for that.
[01:16:09]  And I just think that's what this country is lacking accountability.
[01:16:13]  Well, that is a message that is going to be very popular.
[01:16:17]  That's a message that's going to resonate with a bunch of people.
[01:16:20]  And that's why the only angle they're going to have against you is this claim of anti Semite, which, you know, you kind of addressed one angle of it when you were doing that interview.
[01:16:29]  The other angle that I think is, You know, it kind of proves that it's a weaponized word is really all you're saying is racist.
[01:16:35]  That's all you're saying is it's, it's, it's racist.
[01:16:38]  You're calling somebody a racist is what you're doing, but they've, they've used this word anti Semite like a weapon.
[01:16:43]  So it's like, oh, no, no, that's a special racism.
[01:16:47]  That's a special.
[01:16:48]  It's like extra racism is anti Semitic.
[01:16:50]  So, yeah.
[01:16:52]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:16:53]  They've weaponized the word, you know, just like, you know, Nazi and all these things where it just has like such a strong connotation because they've, Baked in all this propaganda for years and years and years.
[01:17:04]  That when you hear these words, it's like, Oh, you know, you freeze in your tracks.
[01:17:08]  And that's what Jews have been doing.
[01:17:10]  You know, they've been conditioning us that they are victims and that you can't criticize them.
[01:17:15]  And if you do, you're the biggest scum of the earth.
[01:17:17]  And you know, the Holocaust and anti Semitism and trope and blood libel.
[01:17:22]  And it's just like, Shut up!
[01:17:23]  Like, I'm done hearing about all this while at the same time you go and vilify all Muslims, say they're all terrorists, say, You know, Sharia law is coming to America.
[01:17:34]  It's just.
[01:17:35]  It's just absolute bullshit.
[01:17:37]  The greatest threat to America is Jewish supremacy, and it's not fucking Islamification.
[01:17:41]  There's less than 1% of America's Muslims.
[01:17:44]  They're the least thing that we should be worried about.
[01:17:46]  And, you know, let me clarify this because I know that, you know, it's just frustrating that you always have to say this, but there's people that just cannot wrap their hands around not every Jew is bad, but Jews can also be causing problems.
[01:18:01]  So just because you know one good Jew doesn't mean that Jews aren't causing problems.
[01:18:06]  Just like if I were to tell you that Asians are short and you say, oh no, but I know a tall Asian.
[01:18:12]  Okay, motherfucker, Asians are still short.
[01:18:15]  You know a tall Asian, great.
[01:18:17]  And my point is that all Jews do not have to be bad for Jews to be causing problems.
[01:18:22]  And that's what I'm trying to say.
[01:18:24]  Just like, you know, there's definitely Muslims that are causing problems, but to say that all Muslims are bad is just an ignorant statement.
[01:18:31]  Well, that's why I use the juxtaposition when it comes to commentary on the right about crime rates or demographics or specifically, let's say, issues in Black America's culture.
[01:18:44]  The right has no problem discussing these things as an issue and talking about race, but it's like, oh, you're not allowed to do that about a different race or about a different religion than Islam.
[01:18:56]  And so that to me is the double standard that needs to be broken down here.
[01:19:00]  And I think that it's happening, Dan.
[01:19:02]  It's really just a matter of.
[01:19:04]  Getting it to the mainstream, obviously, where it's been rejected.
[01:19:10]  Let's talk about that for a second.
[01:19:11]  What is the ultimate purpose of that?
[01:19:14]  What is the ultimate purpose of saying, you know, if a cop kills a black guy, it's racism?
[01:19:21]  If, you know, something happens to a Jew, it's anti Semitism?
[01:19:25]  But then, if something happens to a white person, whatever.
[01:19:31]  You stab this poor innocent Ukrainian girl on the subway.
[01:19:35]  Nobody helps her.
[01:19:36]  Nobody gives a fuck.
[01:19:37]  This guy's going to get off.
[01:19:39]  But if that was a black girl, if that was a Jewish person, it would be hands across America, would be posting black squares, would be going crazy, would be burning down fucking police stations.
[01:19:50]  So, what actually is this?
[01:19:52]  I'll explain it.
[01:19:53]  It's very simple it's an attack on whites.
[01:19:56]  That's what it is, plain and simple.
[01:19:58]  And that's coming from the Jewish community.
[01:20:00]  And you see it over and over when they say, kill a white person today, or they tweet some crazy, vile thing against whites.
[01:20:08]  And then 20 tweets later, it's like, oh, I'm not white, I'm Jewish.
[01:20:12]  How many times have we seen that?
[01:20:13]  And so you look at where all this white hate is coming from.
[01:20:18]  Who's pushing all the NGOs that are funding open borders?
[01:20:22]  Who's pushing this melting pot idea?
[01:20:25]  All of that is basically an attack on whites.
[01:20:27]  It's not an attack on blacks, it's not an attack on Jews.
[01:20:30]  Who does that ultimately hurt?
[01:20:31]  Who does DEI hurt?
[01:20:33]  You know, all these things are focused to basically undermine white people.
[01:20:38]  And, you know, and nobody wants to talk about that because you say that and you're a white supremacist.
[01:20:43]  You know, there's all these stupid labels, but it's just calling a spade a spade, you know?
[01:20:48]  And I'm tired of dancing around issues.
[01:20:50]  I'm tired of pretending, you know, that we can't, you know, just like, you know, they have like, oh, the N word.
[01:20:56]  You know, if you say that, it's this crazy thing, but you can say spick, it's not the S word.
[01:21:03]  You know, you can say cracker, it's not the C word.
[01:21:06]  But what they do is they create this, like, this victim narrative that, you know, they show, oh, well, you know, blacks are perpetual victims and Jews are victims.
[01:21:17]  So if they're a part of a victim category, all of a sudden they get special treatment.
[01:21:21]  You can't talk about them, you can't criticize them.
[01:21:23]  They don't give a fuck about black people.
[01:21:25]  They just use blacks so that they can also inherit all those victim category rights.
[01:21:31]  And the funny thing is, the whole thing of like one of the reasons why I think blacks, you know, are, are, You know, kind of being violent against whites is because of this whole like slave narrative that's been pushed and pushed and pushed.
[01:21:42]  The funny thing is, when you actually dive into it, you realize that Jews were disproportionately responsible for the slave trade.
[01:21:48]  And they shut the slave trade down on all Jewish holidays because not enough people would show up, you know, to the auction.
[01:21:55]  So, you know, Malcolm X talked about this.
[01:21:59]  It's one of these things where you have to really question things that they tell you you cannot talk about.
[01:22:06]  I, it was hilarious in that interview and you called them out on this and they, they, they quickly, I think, backed down because they realized how ridiculous it was.
[01:22:14]  And then they went on to, I'm sure you heard the shock.
[01:22:17]  Oh my, he said the N word.
[01:22:18]  Oh, it was like the whole, the whole TMZ studio went into a conniption fit.
[01:22:23]  Like they, like they're all children.
[01:22:24]  And that's really what got exposed is it really is an immature mindset here.
[01:22:28]  And it was so great the way you phrased it.
[01:22:29]  It's like, are we not adults?
[01:22:30]  Can we not have a conversation?
[01:22:32]  So, yeah, like it's not racist to say a word.
[01:22:34]  And I also think it's important.
[01:22:37]  To say these words because it removes, you know, the stigma, it removes the shock, the crap.
[01:22:43]  You know, like, here's the bottom line everybody's fucking equal, nobody's better than anybody else.
[01:22:49]  And if you actually want to end racism, which they don't, by the way, they don't want to end racism, but if they actually wanted to end racism, they would accept the fact that everybody's equal.
[01:23:00]  You don't need to put people in victim categories.
[01:23:02]  You know, you can't have blacks say, you know, heinous things about whites or Jews say heinous things about whites, but then you can't say things about them.
[01:23:10]  It would be no double standards.
[01:23:12]  Everybody's equal.
[01:23:13]  That's the only thing that works.
[01:23:15]  When you try and say, oh, well, you know, a black guy can say nigga, but a white guy can't, you know, or if you say the hard R, you know, it's just all these nonsensical things.
[01:23:26]  Like just shut the fuck up.
[01:23:27]  It's words.
[01:23:28]  Like when I grew up, if there was a word that could trigger you, that could get under your skin, everybody would fucking say it to you.
[01:23:35]  And that went for my high school, that went for the military.
[01:23:38]  I don't give a fuck what race, what religion you were.
[01:23:40]  You better have thick skin.
[01:23:42]  And we've lost that, you know.
[01:23:44]  And now today, everybody's so sensitive and they're so triggered, and a word is just going to get them to fucking fight people.
[01:23:51]  Meanwhile, our fucking politicians are fucking children.
[01:23:55]  We're paying to bomb children's schools, and nobody's focused on that.
[01:24:00]  But if you say a word, people lose their fucking minds.
[01:24:04]  That tells me that there has been propaganda programming that is not conducive to logical thinking.
[01:24:11]  And that's the problem today, is like everybody is like, So ingrained in this propaganda, and you have to think this, and you can't say this, and you can't do this.
[01:24:20]  And it's just fucking bullshit.
[01:24:22]  You need to zoom out and you need to analyze things for yourself.
[01:24:26]  You know, that was what COVID was about.
[01:24:28]  It's like, no, you know, you have to, you know, trust the science, take the jab.
[01:24:32]  If you don't do it, we're going to fire you, we're going to ostracize you, we're going to paint you as a fucking crazy person.
[01:24:38]  You're putting other people in danger.
[01:24:40]  It was all bullshit.
[01:24:41]  And that came from the government.
[01:24:43]  So to me, when people lie to me over and over and over again, I stop trusting them.
[01:24:47]  And I just think there needs to be.
[01:24:49]  Some real fucking accountability with politicians and with the government.
[01:24:52]  The government should never lie to you.
[01:24:54]  Ever, ever, ever, ever.
[01:24:56]  The government is supposed to serve the people, not fucking manipulate the people.
[01:25:00]  They are there.
[01:25:02]  Politicians are there to serve the country, not to have the country serve them.
[01:25:06]  And that's what we have right now.
[01:25:08]  We've got the people, you know, serving the government.
[01:25:11]  The government is basically taking advantage of the people.
[01:25:13]  People in political office are, you know, they're using the system to get rich at the people's expense.
[01:25:21]  And that shit needs to fucking stop.
[01:25:23]  And it looks like, you know, our guy, Trump, may be the worst offender of it.
[01:25:28]  And if my fucking guy, if logic can't be applied universally, it's not logic, it's propaganda.
[01:25:35]  And that's what you exposed in that conversation.
[01:25:37]  But what was even crazier is when they tried to claim that Jew, they were accusing you.
[01:25:45]  They said that Jew was also a racial slur, which of course, that's news to everybody.
[01:25:49]  I didn't know that, but okay.
[01:25:51]  So then they say, oh, Jew is a racial slur.
[01:25:53]  Meanwhile, he's saying Jew this, Jew that.
[01:25:56]  It's Jew all day long.
[01:25:58]  They don't censor any of that, but they did censor one word, Dan.
[01:26:02]  They did bleep one word, and it wasn't Jew.
[01:26:05]  I mean, yeah, it's just nonsense.
[01:26:07]  Everybody saw through it.
[01:26:08]  The beauty is that people are awake to this shit, and you see that in the comments.
[01:26:13]  Like, if you look across their five platforms, it's like 95% of the comments are on my side, which is probably one of the reasons why they roasted Randy so bad and exposed the double standard.
[01:26:23]  Um, You know, and that gives me hope, right?
[01:26:26]  It gives me hope that people are finally kind of like waking up to what's going on.
[01:26:32]  I just hope that's reflective of most of America.
[01:26:35]  My fear is that the young people know what's going on, but the older people that are actually casting the votes don't.
[01:26:42]  You know, those are the people that are kind of like still plugged into Fox News and still kind of like, you know, buying the propaganda.
[01:26:50]  And so, you know, the real question with this election is going to be can we mobilize the youth to actually fucking do something?
[01:26:59]  To stop being lazy, to get off their fucking TikTok and to go cast some votes and to go actually have a say.
[01:27:05]  And I think my running might change that.
[01:27:07]  I think people like me running, like the Marine McGinnis, you know, who's actually running for Senate, he's a great guy.
[01:27:18]  And people like that, I think, might pull out some of these young voters.
[01:27:22]  Because, you know, before this, I mean, what was it?
[01:27:24]  It was fucking Hillary, you know, it's Hillary Clinton, it's fucking, you know, it's Biden.
[01:27:30]  It's Trump.
[01:27:30]  It's Kamala Harris.
[01:27:31]  It's like you never even have a fucking good choice.
[01:27:34]  It's like, what is it, bad or worse, you know?
[01:27:37]  But I think if people that are coming into office for the right reasons start running, I think then people will stop being so black pilled.
[01:27:47]  They'll feel like they can actually do something.
[01:27:51]  Well, I do think that your race is going to be one of a couple in this midterm election cycle that we're going to get an idea of where that's at.
[01:27:59]  And when you talk about the youth vote, I do think because it's always going to be a numbers game.
[01:28:05]  I think that we're on the cusp.
[01:28:07]  You talk about the generational gap in politics.
[01:28:11]  I do think we're on the cusp.
[01:28:12]  I don't know if it'll be the midterms or 2032 or rather 2028, I guess I should say.
[01:28:18]  I don't know if it'll be the midterms 2026 or the presidential 2028, but.
[01:28:23]  One of those two elections, we're going to see what we would normally consider the youth versus the boomer class, let's say.
[01:28:30]  We're about to overwhelm them by the numbers.
[01:28:33]  I think that this is going to become a political reality.
[01:28:35]  I don't know if it's going to be this election cycle or the next, but that is an inevitability.
[01:28:39]  That's just a numbers game.
[01:28:40]  That's just a timeline.
[01:28:42]  And so once we cross that threshold, because I'm sure you've seen the only people that are clinging to this foreign policy, let's be specific, the only people that are clinging to this unpopular foreign policy.
[01:28:53]  Are right wing boomers.
[01:28:55]  That's it.
[01:28:56]  The left wing has totally abandoned.
[01:28:58]  They're out of the Middle East foreign policy completely.
[01:29:01]  And now the young people are not.
[01:29:03]  That's the problem.
[01:29:04]  Their fucking politicians aren't.
[01:29:06]  And I think that's one of the big eye openers that the left is going to see is like this is clearly a very important issue for them.
[01:29:15]  And their politicians are not representing them.
[01:29:18]  The politicians are still funding fucking Israel.
[01:29:21]  They're still signing the bills.
[01:29:23]  The right and the left can't agree on anything, but they can agree to support Israel.
[01:29:27]  So And this is something that I feel like the left and the right, the voting class, can agree in the other direction.
[01:29:32]  So I think that disparity tells you everything you need to know.
[01:29:37]  Like, we are not being represented.
[01:29:39]  And when it's, you know, and when people wake up to the fact that, you know, getting Democrats in there, getting Republicans in there is not going to solve the problem, I think they're going to zoom out and start looking at like who's actually responsible for this, who's actually controlling the country, because it isn't a left versus right anymore.
[01:30:00]  What is it going to take to force Randy Fine and you onto the debate stage?
[01:30:04]  Because you know he's going to try to hide.
[01:30:06]  He's going to try to avoid it at all costs.
[01:30:09]  I don't know.
[01:30:10]  I don't think he's going to do it.
[01:30:12]  He's actually pretty well spoken.
[01:30:14]  I was impressed with how he did on that TMZ interview.
[01:30:17]  I mean, they provided really damning evidence.
[01:30:19]  You know, he talks and acts like a politician.
[01:30:24]  But man, they went after him.
[01:30:27]  And he didn't have great rebuttals.
[01:30:30]  I mean, you know, the biggest thing that he was saying is like, oh, well, Dan's a dual citizen and this, that, and the other.
[01:30:35]  And it's like, I'm actually not.
[01:30:37]  I have three citizenships.
[01:30:38]  I have, you know, I'm a, I don't even know what you would call a tri citizen, whatever.
[01:30:43]  But that's not the problem.
[01:30:45]  The problem isn't that I have a passport from St. Kitts so I can travel easier if I wanted to go into, you know, places that require a visa.
[01:30:53]  And the problem isn't that I have a passport, you know, where I could go into Armenia because Armenia and St. Kitts have no influence in our foreign policy whatsoever.
[01:31:02]  We don't fund them, we don't do anything for them.
[01:31:04]  They're not even a thought.

=== Only Israel Lacks Bomb Shelters (12:09) ===

[01:31:05]  But the real problem lies in 35 members of our Congress are Jews, and anybody that's a Jew can go to Israel and get citizenship just because they're a Jew.
[01:31:15]  They can also flee the country when they molest children and they have charges against them, and Israel won't extradite them.
[01:31:22]  So that's the real threat.
[01:31:24]  Because when you have Jews in Congress, whether they're citizens or not, they can get a citizenship tomorrow, they get a citizenship today.
[01:31:32]  So, you know, and many of them have it and they're not disclosing it.
[01:31:35]  So I think what you should have is you should have a forced disclosure.
[01:31:39]  If you have multiple citizenships, you should have to disclose that.
[01:31:43]  And that should take you out of having the ability to vote on any issues involving that country.
[01:31:49]  Randy Fine should not be able to vote on anything concerning Israel.
[01:31:54]  And he certainly shouldn't be able to walk around and fucking vote for other people like he's done in the past.
[01:32:00]  But that is the threat.
[01:32:01]  The threat is having Jews in Congress that have more allegiance to Israel than they do to America and voting and enacting laws to this country's detriment.
[01:32:11]  And to me, that's treason.
[01:32:12]  And that's what we need to fucking crack.
[01:32:14]  Down on, and by the way, Randy Fine would say that exact same thing except aim it at Muslims.
[01:32:21]  And so, if you're allowed to hold that, I mean, what do we have three, four Muslims in all of Congress?
[01:32:26]  Like, what was this idea that Muslims are a threat to us or they're a problem?
[01:32:32]  It's just complete.
[01:32:34]  The only ones that would be a threat are the ones that came across the border illegally because they decided to flood our country with the worst possible candidates, right?
[01:32:43]  Because anybody that's going to do it legal, you're going to make them wait eight years, they got to go through all this paperwork.
[01:32:48]  If you want to swim across the border with a fucking pistol and a pocket full of drugs, come on in.
[01:32:53]  You know, you want to fucking come over here from a war torn country where the U.S. funded the bombing of your fucking relatives, come on in.
[01:33:00]  You know, no problem.
[01:33:01]  And then can you blame those people if they're fucking angry at America?
[01:33:05]  You know, if they're angry because of our support of Israel?
[01:33:08]  So, you know, that's kind of the issue.
[01:33:11]  It's not the people that are coming in here legally.
[01:33:13]  And, you know, and Trump was talking about, oh, I'm going to deport, blah, blah.
[01:33:17]  It was all performative.
[01:33:17]  You know, what did they end up doing?
[01:33:19]  They ended up shooting.
[01:33:20]  Some fucking US citizens.
[01:33:21]  They didn't even deport a million so far.
[01:33:23]  They've been at this for over a year.
[01:33:24]  It's just nonsense.
[01:33:25]  Like, it's just a bunch of empty promises.
[01:33:30]  But yes, I mean, if you want to talk about actually doing something, you should be deporting all the people that came in here illegally.
[01:33:37]  And if you want to let people in this country, fine, just have them go through a process or else what's even the fucking point of having a passport?
[01:33:43]  Why even have border checks?
[01:33:44]  Like, you know what I mean?
[01:33:45]  It's just all you're doing is inconveniencing everybody that's doing it the right way.
[01:33:50]  Or why have any laws?
[01:33:51]  It's like, why should I abide by any laws if we have a wide open border and anybody can come in here and get welfare, by the way?
[01:33:59]  So I want to, I'm sure you're going to see some of this as you get more into the weeds of this race.
[01:34:04]  You know, Randy Fine, I don't know if it's still there, but Randy Fine for a while had an Israeli flag in his office.
[01:34:09]  He's trying to distance himself, like, oh, I'm not a citizen of Israel.
[01:34:12]  He not only had an Israeli flag in his office, he violated the US flag code, he had it higher than the US flag.
[01:34:20]  And when you see Fine coming out and saying, oh, well, You know, I proposed the bill against dual citizenship.
[01:34:26]  I'm proposing bills against dual loyalties.
[01:34:28]  Hold on a second.
[01:34:29]  Thomas Massey proposed those bills a year ago and Fine voted against them.
[01:34:34]  So Randy Fine voted against the bill when it was Massey and then reintroduced it as his own, like it was his idea.
[01:34:40]  It's all bullshit, man.
[01:34:42]  It's all bullshit.
[01:34:43]  He's Jew first, Israel second, and America fucking last.
[01:34:47]  And it's not going to change.
[01:34:48]  And most of these Jews are like that.
[01:34:50]  You know, you look at all the top neocons, it's like 90 something percent of all the neocons are all fucking Jewish.
[01:34:55]  All the people that are pushing us to go into these foreign wars are disproportionately Jewish.
[01:35:01]  Yet the people enlisting in our actual military are massively underrepresented.
[01:35:06]  So they want to push American Christians to go fucking die in foreign wars to benefit Israel.
[01:35:11]  But in the meantime, they're not putting any boots on the ground from Israel and they're not joining our fucking military either.
[01:35:17]  Did you know the top five countries that we fund?
[01:35:20]  Israel's number one.
[01:35:22]  And did you know out of all five of those, four of them have sent us troops to help assist in war efforts.
[01:35:29]  The only one that hasn't is fucking Israel.
[01:35:31]  So, how is it that the country that we've given the most aid has given us the least amount of support?
[01:35:36]  How does that make sense?
[01:35:38]  You know, the only sense I could even begin to fathom is one, the reason why our politics get slanted to such a degree is blackmail, right?
[01:35:47]  I mean, there's just blackmail, whether it's Epstein stuff or whether it's financial stuff.
[01:35:52]  But then, two, and I know you're familiar with this, you're a military guy, you understand military tactics.
[01:35:58]  The Israeli military operates totally differently than any other military on earth.
[01:36:02]  And they love to make this.
[01:36:03]  Claim about they're the most moral.
[01:36:05]  That's extremely debatable, if not outright ridiculous.
[01:36:08]  But as you know, what the Israeli military does differently, and this is why I don't think they join the U.S. military, the American Jews would rather serve in the IDF than they would the American military.
[01:36:17]  That's because what the IDF does is they go and just bomb everything.
[01:36:22]  The first thing they do is a military demolition.
[01:36:26]  We saw it in Gaza, we're seeing it in Lebanon.
[01:36:28]  So they just annihilate everything before they send any boots on the ground.
[01:36:31]  And I guess you could make the argument, It's the lowest chance of having any casualties in your military.
[01:36:36]  And I guess maybe that's their argument here.
[01:36:38]  But that's what they do.
[01:36:38]  They don't put their people in harm's way.
[01:36:40]  They're not going boots on the ground.
[01:36:41]  They're not looking for the bad guys and risking their lives.
[01:36:44]  They're going to, here's an apartment building.
[01:36:46]  There's one guy in it.
[01:36:47]  There might be 100 other people.
[01:36:48]  Just bring down the whole building.
[01:36:49]  Screw it.
[01:36:50]  They don't give a shit if there's one guy in there or not.
[01:36:53]  They want to destroy all of Gaza.
[01:36:55]  They have done it.
[01:36:56]  They've destroyed every single working hospital.
[01:36:59]  They've bombed every church.
[01:37:00]  They've bombed like 90 something percent of all the schools.
[01:37:04]  You know, they this is not a humanitarian effort.
[01:37:06]  They've used human shields, literally strapped Palestinians to the front of their tanks, sent them in when they're clearing buildings, pushed them through the door.
[01:37:15]  They've used human shields by every definition of the word.
[01:37:18]  And in fact, if you look at Heretz, I mean, they've done multiple articles of this, so it's they don't even deny it.
[01:37:24]  I would say that they are one of the least moral armies.
[01:37:27]  They've targeted children.
[01:37:28]  I mean, how many doctors have come forward and said that all these children have been sniped in the head?
[01:37:34]  I was in the military.
[01:37:35]  I went through a bunch of fucking SEAL training.
[01:37:37]  We shot a bunch of guns.
[01:37:39]  I went through some sniper training, and there's no version of you looking through a high power scope and not being able to tell whether or not you're shooting a fucking child.
[01:37:48]  You don't take a shot until you are 100% sure of what you are shooting and what is behind the shot that you're taking.
[01:37:56]  This idea that a sniper could accidentally shoot a child is just complete fucking nonsense.
[01:38:02]  Like these guys are looking through 30 power optics.
[01:38:04]  Like they're seeing the fucking, you know, the amount of hairs on that person's face.
[01:38:09]  So when a sniper deliberately shoots a child in the head or in the heart over and over and over and over again, and you've got doctors testifying to this, you know, I think you have a real problem, you know, and I think the problem comes in that they think that they're better than everybody else.
[01:38:24]  They've got a religion of supremacy.
[01:38:27]  And they're trying to remove all the legitimate Palestinians from that land.
[01:38:31]  They want a greater Israel.
[01:38:32]  They're not being too shy about it.
[01:38:34]  They've invaded Lebanon.
[01:38:35]  They're trying to take fucking land.
[01:38:37]  These are war crimes.
[01:38:37]  You're not allowed to forcefully take land.
[01:38:43]  We established that, and they don't give a shit.
[01:38:46]  They don't want peace.
[01:38:47]  They just want to take more land, and they're using us as a pawn to accomplish their objectives.
[01:38:53]  And I think everybody's kind of getting wise to this.
[01:38:56]  Yeah, not just getting wise to it, but getting very upset about it.
[01:39:00]  To say the least.
[01:39:02]  And I guess if you were going to want to harvest some organs, the headshot would be the way, Dan.
[01:39:08]  Well, I mean, they've talked about they have, you know, like the largest skin bank.
[01:39:12]  You know, it's like they talk about they've, you know, harvested tons of Palestinian organs, their skin, the whole thing.
[01:39:17]  You know, Israelis don't do that.
[01:39:20]  So, yeah, I mean, their whole society is a problem.
[01:39:23]  It's sick.
[01:39:24]  I mean, you see what they're doing on the West Bank, and none of that can be attributed to Hamas.
[01:39:27]  There's no Hamas in the West Bank.
[01:39:29]  You know, now it's come out that Israel has, you know, been the one funding Hamas.
[01:39:33]  They created it.
[01:39:34]  So it's like everything they said was bullshit.
[01:39:36]  They allowed October 7th to happen so they could point to that.
[01:39:39]  They killed their own citizens during October 7th to make the numbers higher.
[01:39:42]  You know, and yeah, it's a very sick society.
[01:39:47]  And I think here's the hurdle, Dan, and I know you know this, but so people understand if they're hearing this and they're just like floored by it.
[01:39:53]  The hurdle is none of this gets covered in Western media.
[01:39:56]  That's the problem.
[01:39:57]  Many of the things that you've claimed here have been testified by the IDF in front of the Knesset.
[01:40:03]  Many IDF members have come forward and said the exact same things that you've said.
[01:40:06]  And this does get covered in Israeli media.
[01:40:08]  They've got a dual type of media, just like we do with the left right paradigm.
[01:40:12]  They've got people against Netanyahu, pro Netanyahu.
[01:40:15]  None of this makes it to our country, Dan.
[01:40:17]  That's the problem.
[01:40:19]  No, it's starting to on Twitter.
[01:40:21]  You know, you've got members of the IDF, you know, coming on record saying that, you know, their commander saw a four year old child playing in the backyard.
[01:40:29]  He went over there, broke his arm, broke his leg, and then stomped him to death in front of the entire unit.
[01:40:34]  And he told them that, you know, you have to kill them young so they don't become terrorists.
[01:40:38]  I mean, like, this was testified by an IDF soldier.
[01:40:41]  You know, this is in their publication.
[01:40:44]  This is like their newspaper putting this story out.
[01:40:46]  So it's not like somebody doing a hit job on them.
[01:40:49]  They're reporting from within.
[01:40:50]  And You know, that kind of goes to my point of like, you know, not every Jew is bad.
[01:40:54]  Like, there's clearly, you know, Jews in Israel that are against this and that are actively exposing it.
[01:41:00]  But the problem is the majority of that society is in favor of this.
[01:41:04]  I mean, they set up, you know, like, they set up observation nests for them to watch the bombing of Gaza.
[01:41:11]  It's, you know, it's like predominantly like a very sick society and they've been operating like they do like cruises where they go by and they're like, ah.
[01:41:21]  Yeah, that too.
[01:41:22]  And now they're getting a front row seat to it, thankfully.
[01:41:27]  Compliments of Iran.
[01:41:28]  So, I think, and the funny thing is listening to them, Kvetch on fucking Twitter about, like, oh, this is our life.
[01:41:35]  And we've got, this is how we're in a bomb shelter.
[01:41:38]  It's like these other countries don't have bomb shelters.
[01:41:41]  Lebanon doesn't have bomb shelters.
[01:41:43]  When you're blowing up fucking children over there on the daily, those people don't even get to hide in bomb shelters.
[01:41:48]  And they actually expect us to feel bad for them.
[01:41:50]  Meanwhile, the whole world is fucking cheering this on.
[01:41:54]  They're just so tone deaf and they're so used to everybody thinking that they're the victim.
[01:41:59]  And I think it's like a part of their culture, too, of just like this constantly complaining and acting like a victim and begging for sympathy.
[01:42:07]  Mind control is what it is.
[01:42:08]  It's what they do to Black Americans with all the slave stuff in history, the brutal presentation of slavery in the media, in the movies.
[01:42:17]  That's all to create this victim, this trauma based mind control on Black Americans.
[01:42:22]  They do the same thing to Jews with the Holocaust.
[01:42:24]  It's all trauma based mind control.
[01:42:28]  In order to try to control people like that.
[01:42:30]  And that's what they're doing.
[01:42:31]  And I think to get a little more into the psychological aspect of this, to me, it's like watching the guy that's never been in a fight before.
[01:42:39]  And I guess if you have this, you know, technological superiority over your enemies where you don't even have to get in a fight with them, right?
[01:42:45]  And you just fly a plane over them and just, you know, bomb them all, you never have to get in a fight.
[01:42:49]  And then it's like when they actually get punched in the mouth, they're like, oh, oh, oh, you punched me.
[01:42:54]  It's like you started a fight.
[01:42:56]  You know, I mean, it's almost like they have this, this, this concept that, hey, I'm allowed to start a fight and not take any blows.
[01:43:02]  And maybe that's been the case with their military.
[01:43:04]  But I mean, that's what it's like.
[01:43:05]  It's like I've seen guys like this.
[01:43:07]  It's like, you know, I'm not some tough guy, but it's like we've all probably seen the guy who loves to start a fight, but doesn't like to get punched.
[01:43:13]  It's kind of like that's what this is like.

=== Grassroots Movement Required Now (15:49) ===

[01:43:14]  It's like, I'm going to start a fight with everybody, but I'm not.
[01:43:17]  Don't punch me, though.
[01:43:18]  Hey, hey.
[01:43:19]  Yeah, like that Jack Dorsey, you know, where he starts a bunch of fights and then he has his security guard come in and fucking protect him, you know.
[01:43:28]  That's what they remind me of, you know.
[01:43:31]  And it's so funny.
[01:43:32]  Like, they literally attacked Iran unprovoked and then whined when Iran retaliated.
[01:43:37]  I mean, it's just, I don't know, man.
[01:43:39]  It's all so obvious.
[01:43:40]  It's all so insufferable.
[01:43:42]  And I just feel like.
[01:43:44]  Everybody's talking about it, everybody knows what's going on, and nobody's doing anything, you know.
[01:43:50]  And I've talked to these other people, you know, like I talked to Candace, I talked to Fuentes, talked to all these other people.
[01:43:55]  I'm like, why don't you guys run?
[01:43:56]  You know, it's like this whole thing is like all talked out.
[01:43:59]  I don't want to talk about this anymore.
[01:44:01]  Everybody knows what's going on, like now let's actually do something about it.
[01:44:06]  And it doesn't seem like anybody wants to actually do anything.
[01:44:09]  And I don't know.
[01:44:09]  It's weird for me.
[01:44:10]  Like, I haven't been into politics my whole life.
[01:44:12]  I mean, this has been a more recent thing.
[01:44:14]  And it's crazy.
[01:44:15]  The more I uncover, the more I realize how fucked up it is and how deep the rabbit hole goes.
[01:44:20]  And I guess for me, what's shocking is that there's other people that know a ton about this and they're just not doing anything.
[01:44:28]  Like, even if you don't win, so fucking what?
[01:44:30]  Yeah.
[01:44:30]  You know, like try.
[01:44:32]  Like, I think that if we got enough people, I mean, look, New York is like what, 20% Jewish or something?
[01:44:38]  I mean, it's like a crazy amount.
[01:44:39]  And they elect.
[01:44:40]  You know what I mean?
[01:44:42]  Vote Democrat.
[01:44:43]  Most American Jews vote Democrat, especially in New York.
[01:44:46]  Yeah.
[01:44:46]  But I mean, he's a guy that was clearly anti Israel and whatever, and he still got elected, right?
[01:44:52]  And I think that's one of the reasons why he did get elected.
[01:44:55]  I agree.
[01:44:55]  Well, I think we're about to find that out in the midterms, definitely on the Democrat side.
[01:44:59]  I don't know about the Republicans yet.
[01:45:01]  Maybe you're definitely going to be one of the best test cases.
[01:45:03]  And I'll just say this to kind of push back on that a little bit, maybe play devil's advocate.
[01:45:09]  The reason why this would be my mindset.
[01:45:12]  It's like if you were going to apply that pressure to me, and let's say it's fair, it's like, hey, Schroyer, you've been doing this, you've been talking for 15 years, why don't you run?
[01:45:20]  I guess I would say, I don't think the environment was right.
[01:45:23]  I feel like we kind of had to cultivate this environment where you could run and maybe get a chance at winning instead of just running into a wall.
[01:45:32]  I think we might be there.
[01:45:33]  I think we might be getting closer to that environment.
[01:45:35]  And who knows, maybe Dan Bilzerian breaks the wall down and there's the floodgates coming in in 2028.
[01:45:42]  I think it's inevitable on the left.
[01:45:44]  We'll see what happens on the right.
[01:45:46]  Your race, Fishback.
[01:45:48]  There's going to be some ones to watch.
[01:45:49]  You know, the race in South Carolina with Lindsey Graham.
[01:45:52]  Hopefully, they finally get rid of him.
[01:45:54]  So, there's going to be races to keep the eye on.
[01:45:56]  But speaking of your race, I know we're really early in the process, and I appreciate you coming on today because I don't know where you're at as far as the campaign infrastructure is concerned.
[01:46:05]  I know you've got it built, but where can people go to support your campaign, follow your campaign, if they want to help you out here to get quote unquote fat Jew?
[01:46:17]  I'm just quoting Harvey Levin here.
[01:46:19]  If they want to get him four times, he said it.
[01:46:21]  If they want to get Harvey Levin's favorite fat Jew, Randy Fine, out of office and vote Bill Zarian, how can they keep up with the campaign, Dan?
[01:46:30]  Okay, I'm going to it right now.
[01:46:32]  It is Bilzerian for Congress.com.
[01:46:36]  So we are up and running.
[01:46:39]  Yeah, hopefully it works.
[01:46:41]  They gave us a lot of shit with the payment processor.
[01:46:47]  You know, I'm self funding some of this.
[01:46:50]  I really do think that, unfortunately, this campaign is going to be won or lost based on how much we can raise nationally for this issue because.
[01:47:00]  The voter base is like the primary Republican voter base is like 70% 55 and older.
[01:47:08]  So I think we're going to have to actually knock on their door and show up and explain this to them because they're not on social media.
[01:47:15]  They're not educated on the issues and they've been plugged into Fox.
[01:47:18]  So I think this is going to have to require like a real grassroots movement.
[01:47:22]  I think this is like a very, very important race, not just for like the unseating of fine or, you know, me going in there and shaking the fucking tree, but I think this is a very important race because I think it'll show people that.
[01:47:34]  It's possible to win as a non traditional candidate.
[01:47:38]  People are ready for this message because my message is pretty fucking aggressive.
[01:47:42]  And I'm not going to tone it down.
[01:47:44]  And, you know, if I, you know, I'm doing this for the people, right?
[01:47:48]  Like, I don't want to be in Congress.
[01:47:50]  I don't want to fucking, you know, move to Florida and wear a suit and do all this shit.
[01:47:54]  But, like, I feel like I have to.
[01:47:57]  I feel like if I don't do it, nobody's going to do it.
[01:48:00]  And we need people in office that actually give a shit about our country.
[01:48:04]  And are not bribeable, not corruptible, and are willing to die on this fucking hill, to be honest.
[01:48:11]  Because when I started talking about this, this shit was, I mean, two and a half years ago, this was like a death sentence.
[01:48:18]  They were fucking ruining people, killing people, whatever, for saying this.
[01:48:24]  And I think because we kicked the fucking door in so hard, I think now other people are feeling more comfortable talking about this.
[01:48:31]  Because you got to understand, when I did Piers, I did that.
[01:48:34]  Like over two years ago, they waited a while to air that episode.
[01:48:40]  But what I couldn't believe was how positive the comments were back then.
[01:48:45]  Because back then, I was like, fuck, man, this is unwinnable.
[01:48:47]  Like, I don't think people understand.
[01:48:49]  I don't think people, I don't think enough people are aware for us to have a chance.
[01:48:56]  That was my feeling back then.
[01:48:57]  Now I'm like, holy fuck, everybody knows, but we can't do anything.
[01:49:03]  And so that's why I feel like, If we and I and I honestly feel like we have a short leash, like we have a very short timeline for this.
[01:49:09]  I think if we don't take control of our government in the next two years, I really think we're like, and I'm not just saying that, like, I really think we're like, I think Palantir is you know fully in place, I think they're monitoring everything.
[01:49:22]  I think that they stop any kind of resistance before it even is considered.
[01:49:27]  I think anybody that could be a potential leader, they squish, smear, whatever.
[01:49:31]  Um, you know, I'm waiting for the smear campaign to come out against me, you know, who knows?
[01:49:35]  Um, it's it's bound to happen, right?
[01:49:37]  Um, and you've seen it historically, so.
[01:49:41]  I think that, you know, this is very important to do because I think by 2028, if we don't get somebody in office, and I mean, not just like some congressmen and senators, I mean, we need a president that's going to really change things.
[01:49:58]  I think it'll be too late.
[01:50:00]  That's my honest opinion.
[01:50:02]  Bilzerianforcongress.com.
[01:50:05]  There is the homepage right there and the donate link, and then all of the socials that you can follow Dan on.
[01:50:13]  Well, Dan, I think that you're obviously running for the right reasons.
[01:50:18]  And the one thing that you say that I think resonates with many people, which is we need some.
[01:50:26]  This has to be a labor of necessity.
[01:50:28]  This has to be a labor of survival, not a labor of, hey, I'm trying to get famous or rich or grow my profile.
[01:50:36]  You certainly don't need any of that.
[01:50:39]  For you, this is an existential crisis our country is in, and you're stepping up and you're running for Congress, even though you know the slings and arrows are going to come after you.
[01:50:48]  So I think you've said it all, Dan, but if there's any closing statements you want to make before we let you go, have at it.
[01:50:54]  I'm all good, brother.
[01:50:55]  I appreciate the time and the conversation.
[01:50:57]  This was good.
[01:50:59]  I think it'll help what.
[01:51:00]  Wake people up to the real problem.
[01:51:03]  Well, no doubt about it.
[01:51:04]  And the recognition, the name recognition of Dan Bilzerian, the popularity is going to give you something that Randy Fine certainly doesn't have.
[01:51:12]  And so it'll be interesting to watch.
[01:51:13]  I know you're not going to hold back.
[01:51:16]  That's not the Bilzerian way.
[01:51:19]  You're going to get the unfiltered, that's for sure.
[01:51:22]  It'll be interesting at a minimum.
[01:51:24]  And I'm definitely looking forward to the different sort of campaign techniques, let's say, that you use against Randy Fine.
[01:51:31]  Because there's all kinds of ammo there.
[01:51:33]  I mean, I don't think the guy's going to be hitting the gym anytime soon.
[01:51:37]  So, you know, that's going to be a fun one.
[01:51:39]  Yeah, he's very hateable.
[01:51:41]  He's very hateable.
[01:51:44]  All right, Dan.
[01:51:45]  Great stuff.
[01:51:45]  Good catching up.
[01:51:46]  Cool, man.
[01:51:47]  Good talking to you, brother.
[01:51:48]  BilzerianforCongress.com.
[01:51:50]  BilzerianforCongress.com.
[01:51:52]  Man, oh, man.
[01:51:53]  I told you guys, I told you these midterms were going to be the ones, didn't I?
[01:51:59]  I told you.
[01:52:01]  And I said it right to Pastor Locke on that viral interview.
[01:52:07]  I said, you guys got maybe two election cycles left until the anti Israel issue becomes the winning issue.
[01:52:14]  You got maybe two left.
[01:52:16]  And I think we're there, guys.
[01:52:20]  I think if it's not this, it's definitely going to be the next one.
[01:52:25]  But I could easily see it being this one.
[01:52:26]  And there's opportunities for it to be this one.
[01:52:29]  All right.
[01:52:30]  Let's close out the second hour of the show.
[01:52:33]  How about that interview?
[01:52:34]  Let's do big numbers on that over the weekend, guys.
[01:52:37]  We'll post that on.
[01:52:40]  YouTube and on X.
[01:52:42]  And let's get that going over the weekend, guys.
[01:52:44]  Let's keep supporting the show.
[01:52:47]  Really appreciate that and appreciate the YouTube numbers that are consistently going up.
[01:52:54]  Really appreciate that YouTube Owen report.
[01:52:57]  You know, I almost want to do a whole segment about what's happening in, let's say, social media or content creation, because there's definitely some weird stuff happening that I didn't anticipate and I'm kind of having to adjust.
[01:53:14]  We talked about the Instagram announcement yesterday, how there's an Owen Shroyer Instagram account now.
[01:53:21]  There's weird stuff going on at X. I'll just leave it at that for now.
[01:53:24]  Still like X, still my favorite app, but there's some weird stuff going on there now.
[01:53:30]  And it seems like the growth potential is now elsewhere, which is just wild to think that that's where we're at.
[01:53:38]  And yet that's where all the evidence is pointing me.
[01:53:40]  But we'll get to that a different day.
[01:53:42]  So just help us blow this one up on YouTube, guys.
[01:53:45]  We really need to build that right now.
[01:53:47]  Help us blow this up on YouTube.
[01:53:48]  We'll post this interview on the Owen Report YouTube account.
[01:53:52]  Let's take a short break and we will come back with the news and your super chats on the other side.
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=== Final Hour Of The Week News (02:06) ===

[01:59:04]  the show with your favorite talk show host, Tits McGee.
[01:59:35]  Titch McGee here.
[01:59:39]  We're back.
[01:59:48]  Okay, final hour of the week.
[01:59:51]  Man, we got a ton of news.
[01:59:55]  I'm not sure how much we're going to be able to get to here.
[01:59:59]  And you know what?
[01:59:59]  I'm feeling like a little loosey goosey on a Friday.
[02:00:08]  Throwing on a hat.
[02:00:10]  That's what I'm going to do here.
[02:00:12]  I'm going to close the week with a hat on.
[02:00:15]  The hair's starting to bother me.
[02:00:19]  I didn't really get it under control before the transmission.
[02:00:27]  So we're going hat.
[02:00:29]  We're going hat the rest of the way.
[02:00:31]  And I'll let you know where you can get this hat as well at the end of the transmission.
[02:00:35]  How about that?
[02:00:38]  How about that?
[02:00:38]  All right.
[02:00:42]  You guys in the chat are kind of sick, and I love you for it.
[02:00:47]  Let me do as much as I can here with the news.
[02:00:54]  Before we get to your super chats today.
[02:00:58]  Man, but the hat hair is strong.
[02:01:01]  The hat hair is strong today.
[02:01:04]  It was in the eyes and the face.
[02:01:06]  I didn't really have time to figure it out.
[02:01:08]  So the hat is a necessity here, third hour.

=== Democrats Address Anti-Israel Concerns (06:11) ===

[02:01:11]  We're excusing it.
[02:01:12]  We're excusing it since we're already going into a radio.
[02:01:15]  We're fully committing to the radio style studio now.
[02:01:18]  We're dimming the lights, may make a couple other adjustments.
[02:01:24]  So, you know what?
[02:01:26]  I'm not here to do a TV show.
[02:01:30]  So, here we go.
[02:01:31]  All right.
[02:01:33]  Stop procrastinating, Schroyer.
[02:01:36]  DNC rejects resolution condemning influence of pro Israel APAC lobby, panel's decision a blow to progressives who are unhappy with groups' involvement in Democrat contests.
[02:01:50]  Well, let me tell you what the Democrats have done here.
[02:01:53]  This is actually a brilliant move because now they get to have their cake and eat it too.
[02:01:59]  So, just having this resolution, just having this panel talking about Israel influence and AIPAC and how it controls foreign policy, controls Congress, just having that conversation is a victory for them.
[02:02:16]  But then they get to tell the Israeli lobby hey, we shut it down.
[02:02:24]  We shut down the resolution.
[02:02:26]  We're still with you guys.
[02:02:27]  So the Democrats are going to find a way to have their cake and eat it too.
[02:02:30]  They're going to take all of the APAC money, but they will also be running against Israel in the midterms.
[02:02:36]  Then the question becomes will that translate into actual policy or will they be telling their donors, hey, let us get in?
[02:02:49]  We need to run on this policy.
[02:02:51]  And then once we get in, we'll still vote to send you anything you want, anything you need.
[02:02:55]  But as far as the midterms are concerned, this is a victory for the Democrats.
[02:03:00]  They get to have their cake and eat it too.
[02:03:02]  They get to signal to their potential voters hey, we're willing to investigate the anti Israel cause.
[02:03:09]  We're willing to address the anti Israel concerns.
[02:03:13]  But then they get to go tell their donors we decided not to do that.
[02:03:20]  So I'm telling you, folks, they're seeing the strategy.
[02:03:24]  While the Republicans are flailing, The Democrats are finding winning strategies right now.
[02:03:31]  And that's just a fact, folks.
[02:03:34]  That's just a fact.
[02:03:36]  Now, what is going on with this?
[02:03:40]  Trump summons bank leaders over a terrifying new threat to the global financial system.
[02:03:45]  The Trump administration has summoned America's most powerful bank chiefs to an urgent closed door meeting over an AI model its makers warn could bring down a blue chip company or breach national defense firewalls.
[02:03:59]  Treasury Secretary Scott Besant and Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell convened the session at Treasury headquarters in Washington, D.C. on Tuesday to address Mythos, a new model from AI giant.
[02:04:12]  So it goes on and on and on.
[02:04:13]  They're pumping AI and then they're talking about the financial system.
[02:04:19]  So all of this is pretty concerning, especially considering what the Trump administration is trying to do as far as cryptocurrencies are concerned.
[02:04:30]  You know, Trump used to come out against a central bank digital currency, maybe not so much anymore.
[02:04:35]  I actually had a discussion earlier today.
[02:04:38]  We're going to air this at the end of the show.
[02:04:40]  There have been major cyber hacks and attacks that aren't really getting much media coverage.
[02:04:45]  Specifically of institutions, government institutions, government infrastructure, and members of the administration that doesn't get much play.
[02:04:55]  So we'll get a little bit more into that.
[02:04:58]  We're going to play that interview at six o'clock today after I read the super chats.
[02:05:03]  So, but the Democrats know that they can't avoid the issue of the anti Israel sentiment within their party.
[02:05:15]  And so here's another example Senator Slotkin.
[02:05:19]  She had a town hall in Ohio, and we keep seeing these videos.
[02:05:25]  Uh, you know, the Democrat voters are confronting their politicians on the Israel issue.
[02:05:32]  This happened again in Ohio, uh, with Alyssa Slotkin.
[02:05:37]  A good Xavier student is prepared.
[02:05:40]  So, um, sorry, basically, um, going back to what was said over here, you have not taken money from APAC, but pro Israel lobbies and Their donors have spent $4.5 million on your campaigns.
[02:05:57]  But I do have a question unrelated to that.
[02:05:59]  I just wanted to add that.
[02:06:02]  So I am curious why left leaning media, well, I guess mainstream media and establishment Democrats are spending energy attacking.
[02:06:15]  Influencers like Hassan Piker, as has been in the news lately, and why the Democratic establishment is just like immune to criticizing Democratic leadership like Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, who are some of the main drivers in the reason that the Democratic Party is at its lowest approval rating in history.
[02:06:38]  Well, a couple of things.
[02:06:39]  First, just to correct the record, I'm not sure what you're referring to on not AIPAC, but the Israel lobby.
[02:06:45]  If you're equating Israel lobby to Jews, I got a problem with that.
[02:06:50]  And that, just like you wouldn't say, you know, the Iranian, that, you know, Iranians, whatever happens the Iranian government does is what Iranian Americans believe.
[02:07:01]  I think it's really important, especially now, to make a distinction between the Israeli government and the choices that they're making and the average Jew, okay?
[02:07:10]  And Jewish people who donate to campaigns.
[02:07:12]  So I feel very strongly about that.
[02:07:15]  But in terms of, Wow, she really had that message ready to go.

=== Building Zones And America First (11:13) ===

[02:07:22]  They can't avoid it, folks.
[02:07:24]  But AIPAC is just going to find ways to hide the money.
[02:07:29]  So she can pretend like, oh, you know, just taking money from a Jewish person doesn't mean anything.
[02:07:34]  And that could be true.
[02:07:35]  There's plenty of Jews that are not favorable of Israel or Netanyahu right now.
[02:07:40]  So, okay, fine, fair enough.
[02:07:42]  But let's not pretend here.
[02:07:45]  Let's not pretend like Marion Adelson or AIPAC or the rest of the Jewish billionaire class.
[02:07:50]  Fund American politics so that Israel can subsidize its existence off of the United States and buy Congress votes.
[02:07:57]  Let's not pretend that that's not the issue here.
[02:08:01]  But as I said, the Democrats are not going to be able to avoid this.
[02:08:04]  They're going to end up having to run on this issue.
[02:08:08]  And then the Republicans are going to have to play catch up, especially if it becomes the big winning issue.
[02:08:15]  It'll just force the Republicans' hand.
[02:08:17]  Hey, you know, there's another thing Trump is trying to build in Washington, D.C., it's this giant arch.
[02:08:23]  The triumphal arch.
[02:08:26]  Looks pretty nice.
[02:08:26]  Looks pretty cool.
[02:08:27]  Well, they're running into some problems, of course.
[02:08:30]  Can't build a wall.
[02:08:31]  Can't get mass deportations.
[02:08:33]  Really can't do anything America first, but maybe we can build a thing or two.
[02:08:36]  Maybe not.
[02:08:37]  Trump officials unveiled designs for president's controversial 250 foot arch.
[02:08:43]  The arch is intended to commemorate the United States 250th anniversary.
[02:08:48]  Military veterans have sued to halt the project, saying it would alter key views of Arlington National Cemetery.
[02:08:57]  Well, you know, the good news about this is that it doesn't, it's not about Trump.
[02:09:02]  So, you know, if they had Trump's face or, you know, name or something on it, then it would be like, okay, another vanity project.
[02:09:10]  I don't really have any issue with the project.
[02:09:12]  And it does look like it's going to be a nice monument.
[02:09:17]  They're saying, you can look at a map here.
[02:09:21]  They're saying that because it's going to be so big and gaudy, that it's going to interfere with some of the natural beauty, some of the natural splendor of Arlington National Cemetery.
[02:09:35]  Now, whether that's a legit thing or just some liberals that are trying to stop anything Trump wants to do, you know, I guess you can have that conversation.
[02:09:48]  I do believe they strategically.
[02:09:52]  Because there are building codes in D.C.
[02:09:55]  I don't think anything is allowed to be taller than the Washington Monument.
[02:09:59]  There might be footage, you know, if you know anything about building zones, sometimes there's like an actual height that you're not allowed to build higher than.
[02:10:07]  So that's why you don't see any big skyscrapers in D.C.
[02:10:10]  The rules might be different when you're on the other side of the Potomac.
[02:10:13]  And so maybe that's why they decided to put the bridge or rather put the arch over there.
[02:10:22]  So, yeah.
[02:10:24]  Looks like this is going to be another uphill battle for President Trump.
[02:10:27]  And you know what's going to be ironic?
[02:10:31]  You know what's going to be funny, depending on how this stuff goes?
[02:10:34]  I'm indifferent, whatever.
[02:10:35]  It looks cool.
[02:10:36]  I don't really have a problem.
[02:10:37]  The ballroom is kind of a little, the ballroom is more curious to me than this thing.
[02:10:43]  But he's only got till, he's only got till 2028 to do this.
[02:10:55]  And maybe only till 2026.
[02:10:58]  Because, you know, if the Democrats win the midterms, they can throw all kinds of wrenches into this administration to block up the works, the gears.
[02:11:08]  And I think we all anticipate that's going to happen.
[02:11:10]  So Trump could be sitting here in 2028 with ground broken on the ballroom and on the archway, and then none of it gets built.
[02:11:25]  And then none of it gets built, which it's like.
[02:11:31]  Again, the ballroom, that one I'm a little skeptical of.
[02:11:37]  The arch, I think if there's one project to support, I think that that's probably the one.
[02:11:46]  It's a cool project.
[02:11:47]  It's beautiful.
[02:11:48]  It commemorates 250 years.
[02:11:51]  I don't necessarily have a problem with that, especially if you know that drive well.
[02:11:55]  If you know that drive well, you know that it looks like it'll be a nice little part of that drive.
[02:12:00]  It looks like it kind of fits right into that whole drive.
[02:12:02]  And then on one side of the Potomac, The Lincoln Monument, the other side, the archway, the complaints about Arlington.
[02:12:09]  I think that's probably political more than anything, honestly.
[02:12:13]  But I don't know.
[02:12:14]  I guess if I'm ever in D.C., I could tell you.
[02:12:17]  But he's sitting here and he's going to break ground on a ballroom.
[02:12:21]  He's going to break ground on an archway.
[02:12:23]  He can't even build the wall.
[02:12:24]  I think we've given up the wall.
[02:12:26]  Are we even talking about the wall anymore?
[02:12:27]  So we can't even build the wall.
[02:12:28]  Apparently, we can't get the money for the wall, but we got $100 billion for another war in the Middle East.
[02:12:33]  So it's all just, honestly, it's comical.
[02:12:36]  It's a damn clown show.
[02:12:42]  Guys, like that.
[02:12:43]  I did it.
[02:12:43]  I finally did it.
[02:12:44]  So it's a damn clown show.
[02:12:46]  The ballroom.
[02:12:47]  It's going to be an eyesore.
[02:12:48]  Who knows if he can get it?
[02:12:49]  So it's like he's got these big, grandiose projects.
[02:12:52]  He can't even get them done.
[02:12:54]  And it's almost symbolic of America first.
[02:12:59]  It's like that's the symbolism of MAGA.
[02:13:01]  It's like, here's the wall.
[02:13:03]  Didn't do it.
[02:13:04]  Here's the archway.
[02:13:05]  Didn't do it.
[02:13:06]  Here's the ballroom.
[02:13:07]  Didn't do it.
[02:13:08]  But what did you do?
[02:13:09]  Well, we certainly bombed the Middle East again.
[02:13:12]  We certainly bombed whoever Israel told us to bomb again.
[02:13:15]  We certainly did the bidding of Israel again.
[02:13:17]  Like, That nothing can stop that.
[02:13:21]  Nothing will stand between the United States getting used and abused for Israel's interests.
[02:13:27]  But ballroom, no, archway, wall, what wall?
[02:13:32]  I don't know.
[02:13:35]  It just exposes the whole thing, quite frankly.
[02:13:38]  Now, yesterday, obviously, the big truth social post from Trump did not go over so well.
[02:13:47]  On his own account.
[02:13:48]  I'm not going to sit here and read all the replies, but let's just say negative, ladies and gentlemen.
[02:13:56]  Let's just say Trump's Truth Social post yesterday was not received very kindly on his own Truth Social account.
[02:14:05]  Truth Social account, rather.
[02:14:07]  So that was probably a mistake, but he did it maybe to, maybe he just did that.
[02:14:19]  To get the headlines off of Melania and whatever is about to come down the pipeline on the Epstein issue.
[02:14:27]  Let's see.
[02:14:28]  We got Zorhan Mamdani.
[02:14:29]  He walked six miles home from his office the other day.
[02:14:33]  He was getting nothing but hugs and hand pounds.
[02:14:36]  How many politicians do you think could do this, by the way?
[02:14:40]  I'm just curious.
[02:14:42]  How are you doing?
[02:14:43]  How are you doing?
[02:14:44]  Hi, guys.
[02:14:45]  Hello.
[02:14:48]  How many politicians could do this?
[02:14:50]  Who could just walk the streets and be like.
[02:14:59]  I'm just curious how many other politicians could do that?
[02:15:04]  Just walk the streets with minimum security, walk six miles home, and be treated like a celebrity when they do it.
[02:15:11]  It's like nothing but love.
[02:15:13]  I'm curious.
[02:15:15]  Oh, by the way, back to the Democrats and the Israel issue.
[02:15:22]  Here's Governor Shapiro basically kind of hammering Netanyahu.
[02:15:26]  I want to speed through this stuff, so I'm not going to play the clip, but to pull quote it Netanyahu is someone who has been leading Israel down a dangerous and isolated path.
[02:15:35]  I think he has made Israel more isolated in the world community.
[02:15:39]  He was the leader of Israel who wasn't minding the shop when October 7th happened.
[02:15:44]  So Shapiro now taking an anti Netanyahu stance ahead of this midterm election cycle.
[02:15:52]  Whoa, telling you folks, the signs are everywhere.
[02:15:56]  Never doubt me.
[02:15:58]  Never doubt me.
[02:15:59]  One of the train railways, train railway bridges that the U.S. Israel bombing campaign destroyed has been rebuilt in Iran.
[02:16:09]  The Yahya Bad Railway Bridge in Kashan in central Iran, blown up by the U.S. Israel strikes, it's already rebuilt.
[02:16:19]  Meanwhile, we still can't rebuild the Francis Scott Key Bridge.
[02:16:25]  Basically, can't even get that done.
[02:16:27]  So that kind of gives you an idea.
[02:16:30]  Of, well, just everything, I guess.
[02:16:35]  Just everything, huh?
[02:16:38]  Let's see.
[02:16:39]  Well, Netanyahu certainly wants more bombs to drop.
[02:16:42]  Netanyahu requests delay in his corruption trial testimony.
[02:16:47]  He wants another two weeks.
[02:16:48]  How convenient.
[02:16:50]  Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has asked to postpone giving testimony in his long running corruption trial that was set to resume next week, citing the ongoing security situation.
[02:17:02]  Because of the war with Iran.
[02:17:05]  So he needs more time.
[02:17:06]  So the war must go on.
[02:17:09]  He also came out and declared Spain an enemy.
[02:17:14]  And he said that Spain is now an enemy of Israel and that Israel has the most moral military in the world.
[02:17:20]  And so now Netanyahu is targeting Spain.
[02:17:23]  So look out if you're in Spain.
[02:17:25]  You might be getting bombed soon now that Israel declares you the enemy.
[02:17:29]  So be careful with that.
[02:17:32]  Yes, they did.
[02:17:35]  They did arrest the American that leaked, that unintentionally leaked, kind of got screwed by the reporter.
[02:17:43]  Former Fort Bragg employee charged with leaking classified military information to journalists.
[02:17:48]  She was having conversations with the journalist.
[02:17:49]  He wasn't supposed to publish it, he did.
[02:17:52]  They traced it back to her.
[02:17:53]  She's in jail.
[02:17:55]  Courtney Williams is in jail.
[02:17:59]  But the Israeli that leaked it, he's all good.
[02:18:03]  No problem with him.
[02:18:04]  Amit Segal, reporter close to Netanyahu in spotlight as Trump slams leaker and F 15 pilot rescue from Iran.
[02:18:10]  The Israeli that leaked it, he's okay.
[02:18:13]  No cause for concern there.
[02:18:14]  The American that leaked it, jail.
[02:18:17]  Traitor, jail.
[02:18:20]  And it doesn't matter that Courtney Williams, the American, is a veteran, a mother.
[02:18:27]  No, she needs to go to jail.
[02:18:28]  But the Israeli, he's okay.
[02:18:31]  He can stay outside of the prison walls.
[02:18:33]  That's okay for him.
[02:18:34]  You know, this is an interesting thing from Brandon Tatum.

=== American Leaker Goes To Jail (09:08) ===

[02:18:36]  Now, Brandon.
[02:18:38]  In the most recent, let's say, months, Brandon has kind of in this left or in this divide, let's say, inside of MAGA, inside of Trump's base, inside of the right.
[02:18:53]  Brandon has gone all in on the kind of neocon Israel side.
[02:18:56]  And I like Brandon, whatever.
[02:18:58]  He gets a lot of heat for it.
[02:18:59]  But so he clearly made that decision, or maybe he made a deal.
[02:19:02]  You know, we all know Project Esther and all the money.
[02:19:04]  I don't know if that's why Brandon did it or if he really believes it.
[02:19:11]  But that's the decision that he decided he was going to go in that direction for his media career.
[02:19:18]  Listen to this.
[02:19:21]  I mean, folks, like this is.
[02:19:25]  I'm not even sure how to plate this.
[02:19:27]  All I can do is present it to you.
[02:19:29]  Let's listen to the opening here.
[02:19:31]  One thing that I don't realize, or at least I didn't consider, was the residual effect of war, period.
[02:19:38]  Whether it's in Ukraine, whether it's in Iran, whether it's in you name it.
[02:19:42]  I didn't really consider.
[02:19:44]  That when we drop bombs over there and we blow the smithereens, that some of that stuff residually comes back to the United States of America.
[02:19:54]  Every war.
[02:20:01]  Duh.
[02:20:03]  Like, I don't want to be, I'm not trying to be too mean or cruel here to Officer Tatum.
[02:20:11]  I'm okay to have political differences and still get along with people, but.
[02:20:16]  Really?
[02:20:20]  And I do want to draw a larger conclusion here because there is a consistency to this.
[02:20:27]  And I'll at least credit Brandon for saying it because most others won't even say it.
[02:20:32]  And this is why I get so frustrated.
[02:20:34]  And this is why I remind my audience that you are in the 1%.
[02:20:38]  If you are listening to this show, you are in the top 1% of politically informed people in this country.
[02:20:44]  You are top 1%.
[02:20:46]  And that's not even a brag about me.
[02:20:49]  You can disagree with me.
[02:20:51]  The reason why people on the left and the right tune into my show is because I actually go through news.
[02:20:56]  And even if you disagree with maybe the directional conclusions I reach, you at least know that it's coming from a place of understanding.
[02:21:05]  So this is why I get so frustrated.
[02:21:07]  And you can go back.
[02:21:08]  Rush Limbaugh warned about this for years what social media was going to do to the political conversation.
[02:21:14]  He ended up being right.
[02:21:18]  Folks, these people talk about things and they have extreme opinions on things that they don't even understand.
[02:21:26]  They don't even comprehend.
[02:21:28]  Again, I give Tatum credit.
[02:21:29]  At least he's coming out and saying, wow, I didn't realize this.
[02:21:32]  So I don't know if that changes his opinion on anything.
[02:21:36]  But it's just like, folks, you understand that's the problem here.
[02:21:41]  And I'm not somebody that's saying, hey, look, if you want to do a political podcast or you want to try to do this, then that's fine.
[02:21:48]  I'm not going to sit here and gatekeep the media.
[02:21:51]  All parties, welcome.
[02:21:52]  Good luck.
[02:21:54]  Enjoy the struggle.
[02:21:56]  Enjoy the competition.
[02:21:58]  I'm fine with that.
[02:22:01]  But what I've learned is I don't even necessarily think it's like a training thing.
[02:22:09]  It's like I could sit here and say, well, did you go to college?
[02:22:14]  Did you get a degree?
[02:22:15]  Did you study?
[02:22:16]  What's your background?
[02:22:17]  What's your resume that I should listen to your show or you should be in media?
[02:22:24]  It's not even that I think that's an issue because if you can do it, you can do it.
[02:22:28]  And anybody can do the research.
[02:22:33]  But it is like if you catch the right trend or you join the right Institution, you can basically get launched to the top.
[02:22:46]  And it doesn't matter how informed you are or how ignorant you are, as long as you're saying the right things and you're boosted by the institution, anybody can get to the top.
[02:22:56]  And so then, and this is why there's this huge split right now.
[02:22:59]  So then now here you are when it's like the real debate is happening on the right.
[02:23:04]  It's easy to sit here in the left right paradigm and sling mud at the other side and come out clean.
[02:23:11]  Now that you're having the right on right debates, Now that you're having, you know, internally of the MAGA base, however you want to describe it, now that these debates are happening, people are getting exposed in all sorts of different ways.
[02:23:28]  I use that clip as just kind of a starting point.
[02:23:33]  Whether it's like, here's an example.
[02:23:36]  I brought this up earlier.
[02:23:38]  People are celebrating Randy Fine, and he's pushing this on his social media all day.
[02:23:45]  And Randy Fine is saying, look, I'm supporting legislation to end dual loyalty.
[02:23:54]  He's got an Israeli flag in his office.
[02:23:57]  Look, I proposed legislation to end dual citizenship in Congress.
[02:24:03]  That was Thomas Massey's bill.
[02:24:06]  He put that bill to a vote a year before you did, and you voted against it.
[02:24:12]  You voted against the exact same bill when it was Massey's bill.
[02:24:15]  Now you're re presenting the bill as your own.
[02:24:19]  People don't even know that, folks.
[02:24:21]  They don't even know that.
[02:24:24]  I come on air.
[02:24:25]  I'll say, Trump says that his biggest owners care more about Israel than they do about America.
[02:24:34]  And these people say, y'all, you just hate Israel.
[02:24:36]  You're Israel obsessed.
[02:24:37]  I'm like, Trump literally said that.
[02:24:40]  You don't even follow anything, you don't even follow news.
[02:24:44]  And so that's the problem.
[02:24:48]  That's the problem.
[02:24:48]  But what are you going to do?
[02:24:51]  It's all about impressions.
[02:24:52]  It's all about first impressions.
[02:24:56]  And most people that you will get a first impression from don't even have the information to make a case for whatever it is that they're claiming that you're now deriving an impression off of.
[02:25:10]  But I at least give Brandon credit.
[02:25:14]  He's like, wow, I didn't realize this thing.
[02:25:16]  I'm learning here.
[02:25:17]  Good for you.
[02:25:17]  That's a process.
[02:25:18]  That's part of the process here.
[02:25:20]  That's a good thing.
[02:25:21]  That's a learning curve.
[02:25:24]  So, I don't know if that changes his mind.
[02:25:28]  I don't know how many more examples we may see of this as we get closer to the midterms.
[02:25:39]  But that's the problem.
[02:25:40]  So many people in this new media landscape.
[02:25:44]  And this is why you really have to do your due diligence.
[02:25:48]  And this is why I do what I do, quite frankly.
[02:25:53]  But most people don't understand now.
[02:25:56]  It's beyond, you can talk about mainstream media propaganda.
[02:25:59]  Most people kind of understand that now.
[02:26:03]  The new understanding is now, most of these people that you're following on the internet, You know, digital influencers, social media, however you want to describe it, many of them just simply do not follow the news.
[02:26:21]  They just don't, folks.
[02:26:22]  They're able to sit down and talk.
[02:26:24]  They have a team of producers.
[02:26:26]  Now they have teleprompters.
[02:26:27]  They get scripts.
[02:26:28]  They get talking points.
[02:26:31]  They're not presenting anything that they've actually been able to consume and understand and comprehend.
[02:26:39]  It's just, I'm going to sit down.
[02:26:40]  I'm here because I have a following.
[02:26:42]  I'm here because I'm a recognizable name, a recognizable face.
[02:26:45]  And then I'm basically just forced to come on here and talk about this list of bullet points.
[02:26:50]  And then I've got a couple opinions, whether they're informed or not, it doesn't matter.
[02:26:53]  The show's over and we all go about our day.
[02:26:57]  And so that's the problem here.
[02:27:02]  That's the problem.
[02:27:04]  And that's the void.
[02:27:07]  That's the void.
[02:27:07]  That's the void that I'm trying to fill.
[02:27:12]  So just know it.
[02:27:16]  You guys, most of you guys probably do.
[02:27:20]  But again, it's like not to be insulting, but it's like, how, I mean, folks, that is, I didn't realize that the wars will impact our country.
[02:27:32]  It's like, oh my gosh.
[02:27:34]  Oh, oh my, oh my gosh.
[02:27:41]  How are you going to sit here?

=== Scared Of This Conversation (07:35) ===

[02:27:45]  How are you going to sit here as a member of the media?
[02:27:51]  How are you going to sit here and engage in geopolitical debate and conversation, and you don't even realize that these wars affect our country?
[02:28:00]  It's like, wow.
[02:28:02]  Okay.
[02:28:05]  Hey, you know, they've got the Iranian babes out again.
[02:28:10]  They've got all the Iranian babes out again trying to convince you to support this war.
[02:28:15]  That's what they do now.
[02:28:18]  In case you haven't noticed.
[02:28:21]  So there's another one here, but I want to show you just to.
[02:28:25]  Never doubt me, folks.
[02:28:26]  Never doubt me, folks.
[02:28:32]  So here's one of these Iranian babes that they have promoting this war.
[02:28:36]  Do you see what she's doing here?
[02:28:40]  Little Tara with the Iranian flag.
[02:28:42]  Do you see what she's doing here?
[02:28:43]  She's burning the flag.
[02:28:45]  She's burning the Iranian flag.
[02:28:47]  Tell me, guys, who does that in America?
[02:28:49]  Who burns the country's flag in America?
[02:28:51]  Is that the left or is that the right?
[02:28:54]  Mm hmm.
[02:28:57]  What have I been saying about this war?
[02:29:00]  What have I been saying?
[02:29:01]  There's more proof.
[02:29:03]  It's leftists, it's liberal.
[02:29:06]  They're the ones burning flags.
[02:29:10]  They're the feminists.
[02:29:12]  So, you know, I don't know if that really matters about whether you want to support it, but this is a leftist cause.
[02:29:17]  It's a leftist, liberal, progressive cause, and the right wing supports it in America.
[02:29:21]  It's crazy irony.
[02:29:23]  It's crazy irony.
[02:29:28]  All right.
[02:29:29]  More stuff on the Charlie Kirk news today, but this was from yesterday.
[02:29:33]  So they're still mad at this Daily Mail story.
[02:29:35]  Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did not match rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson.
[02:29:40]  New court.
[02:29:40]  Filing claims.
[02:29:41]  Now, again, so here's Seth Dillon from the Babylon Bee, which is not funny anymore.
[02:29:45]  The Babylon Beebe is funny now.
[02:29:47]  See, the Babylon Beebe has a problem.
[02:29:49]  They have a loyalty to Israel, and so now they can't be funny because their loyalty to Israel is prioritized over being funny.
[02:29:58]  So now there's a new one called the Babylon Beebe that actually is funny if you're looking for that type of content.
[02:30:05]  So he's mad.
[02:30:05]  No community note on the Daily Mail.
[02:30:07]  Oh, we're like liberals now.
[02:30:09]  We love community notes and censorship.
[02:30:11]  So I ask him a question.
[02:30:13]  Did they match the bullet to the gun?
[02:30:14]  Yes or no?
[02:30:15]  He can't answer the question.
[02:30:16]  And we go back and forth, this huge thing.
[02:30:18]  Oh, he won't answer the question.
[02:30:24]  Now, look, I think it's pretty obvious what's going on.
[02:30:29]  And they're really pushing the Tyler Robinson confession letter today.
[02:30:36]  I'm sure you saw that.
[02:30:38]  They're really pushing the Tyler Robinson confession letter today.
[02:30:41]  The problem is.
[02:30:43]  The timestamps with the letter and the self turn in now don't line up.
[02:30:50]  So apparently, he wrote the letter after he turned himself in now, which we have no video evidence of him turning himself in.
[02:30:56]  And the cop that supposedly turned him in is he's quit.
[02:31:00]  So there's all kinds of questions here.
[02:31:02]  But so that's the one, the official narrative believers that are trying to get you to believe it.
[02:31:05]  They're pushing the Tyler Robinson confession letter, which I don't believe.
[02:31:10]  But again, that's not really my big issue.
[02:31:11]  My issue is.
[02:31:13]  Why haven't they shared the video of him getting on the roof and taking the shot?
[02:31:16]  That's my issue.
[02:31:16]  I don't really think it needs to go any further than that.
[02:31:20]  Because that's the ultimate, like, we can look at all the different angles.
[02:31:24]  To me, that's the ultimate angle.
[02:31:26]  You have the video of him getting on the roof and taking the shot, but then you only show us him running off the roof and jumping off.
[02:31:32]  Like, why?
[02:31:32]  There's something that's just so it just doesn't add up.
[02:31:34]  You can talk about the exit wound, the entry wound, the 30 odd six.
[02:31:38]  You can talk about George Zinn there.
[02:31:41]  I mean, there's all kinds of other stuff that makes you not believe the official narrative.
[02:31:44]  But to me, that's the one that it's like, okay, I don't really need to go into the details.
[02:31:48]  But here's obviously what's going on.
[02:31:51]  I mean, let's just be honest about it.
[02:31:52]  This doesn't have to be, you know, this doesn't have to be vitriolic or, you know, I told you so or you're wrong.
[02:31:58]  Let's just lay it out neutrally.
[02:31:59]  Let's just be honest about it.
[02:32:03]  There are individuals that are loyal to Israel, and they know that the big conspiracy theory about the Charlie Kirk assassination is that he was killed by Israel.
[02:32:19]  So they are desperate to try to disprove that.
[02:32:24]  That's what this whole thing is all about.
[02:32:27]  They are desperate to disprove it.
[02:32:30]  If the conspiracy theory was going any other direction, if the conspiracy theory was that Iran.
[02:32:36]  Killed Charlie Kirk, then they wouldn't be panicking.
[02:32:39]  Then they wouldn't care.
[02:32:40]  They would let the conspiracy theories go on.
[02:32:42]  They would allow the debates, everything else.
[02:32:44]  But because it's implicating Israel, that's why they're running cover so much.
[02:32:52]  So they know this.
[02:32:54]  And really, it exposes their own loyalty, I would say.
[02:32:58]  It exposes their own loyalty.
[02:33:00]  It exposes that they have some sort of natural instinct, some sort of intuition to always run protection for Israel.
[02:33:08]  And so that's what they're engaging in right now.
[02:33:11]  It's not a matter of evidence.
[02:33:14]  It's not a matter of, oh, they're so concerned about getting the killer.
[02:33:18]  It's not, folks.
[02:33:19]  It's all about they're concerned that this makes Israel look bad.
[02:33:23]  That's all it is.
[02:33:25]  And again, this isn't about reaching a conclusion.
[02:33:29]  This isn't about a whodunit.
[02:33:31]  No, this is all about why are they so scared of this conversation?
[02:33:37]  Why can't they just answer a question honestly?
[02:33:40]  Because they see where the conversation is going and they see the conclusions people are reaching and they don't like it because they are concerned about Israel and they love Israel and their natural instinct is to protect Israel.
[02:33:53]  That's what's going on.
[02:33:55]  Okay.
[02:33:56]  So I don't really, it's like you wouldn't be afraid of the debate.
[02:34:05]  You wouldn't be afraid of the questions.
[02:34:07]  You wouldn't be afraid of the conspiracy theories unless there was something inside of you that was scared.
[02:34:15]  Period.
[02:34:18]  And whether that fear is because you just love Israel and you're afraid that it may implicate Israel or that's where people are going to blame you, blame it, or maybe you do know something.
[02:34:32]  Maybe there was a level of involvement.
[02:34:34]  Again, I'm not here to reach conclusions other than to say it's crystal clear if you're a neutral observer, the reason that they're scared of this conversation is because.
[02:34:45]  They're either concerned of Israel or they're hiding something.
[02:34:48]  They're just totally scared of it, folks.
[02:34:51]  They're totally scared.
[02:34:52]  They can't answer questions.
[02:34:53]  They can't have debates.
[02:34:54]  They can't look at the different potentials here.
[02:34:57]  And it's just, nope, we're going to reach this conclusion and nobody can answer any questions and nobody can question this.
[02:35:02]  It's all just done, wrap it up, get it over with.
[02:35:05]  They're scared.
[02:35:08]  There's no other way to describe it.
[02:35:10]  These people are scared of this conversation.
[02:35:13]  And so you have to ask why.
[02:35:16]  You have to ask why.

=== Russian Collusion Accusations From Right (05:08) ===

[02:35:21]  Oh, boy.
[02:35:21]  Do I want to get into the foreign influencer money thing?
[02:35:24]  This is such a joke.
[02:35:25]  It's all the people that take the foreign influence money.
[02:35:31]  So it's hilarious watching the projection here.
[02:35:38]  Let me just, I'll just pile drive through a couple of these.
[02:35:41]  So, you know, you see this the United States to investigate American influencers taking foreign money.
[02:35:46]  It's all the foreign loyalists that are making these accusations.
[02:35:51]  And then again, the Trump.
[02:35:54]  Advisor Alec Brusiewicz, again denying it, saying, I'm not aware of any such investigation, but I would support one.
[02:36:04]  Again, here's Graham Allen, total Israel shill, total woke right hack.
[02:36:11]  And so it's all the woke right hacks, it's all the Israeli shills accusing everybody else of taking foreign money.
[02:36:20]  And yet they've never presented any evidence.
[02:36:23]  So.
[02:36:26]  You know, what I find hilarious about this is it's the right wing Russian collusion.
[02:36:35]  How do we put this into words?
[02:36:37]  It's like we use the woke right and it's fair and it's accurate, but it doesn't really fully explain.
[02:36:47]  It's like the right has become the left.
[02:36:51]  It's more than just woke.
[02:36:55]  It's like.
[02:36:57]  The left was doing the Russian collusion thing.
[02:36:59]  And they said anybody that supports Trump is taking Russian money.
[02:37:03]  They're Russian agents, they're Russian assets.
[02:37:05]  We all went through that.
[02:37:07]  We all knew it was BS.
[02:37:10]  And then, so there it was.
[02:37:11]  It came and went.
[02:37:12]  It was an election cycle conspiracy theory, it was election cycle slop, election cycle bullshit.
[02:37:20]  Okay, came and went.
[02:37:23]  And now the right is doing it.
[02:37:26]  It's like, oh, you don't support Trump?
[02:37:28]  You must be a foreign agent.
[02:37:29]  You're taking foreign money.
[02:37:30]  You're taking Qatar money.
[02:37:31]  You're taking Iran money.
[02:37:33]  You're taking all this money.
[02:37:34]  And none of it's happening.
[02:37:36]  It's the same thing as Russian collusion.
[02:37:40]  It's just like we had to sit here, and it's all the same people, by the way.
[02:37:45]  We had to sit here and get accused of being Russian agents.
[02:37:51]  We had to sit here and deal with these wild eyed accusations of Russian money, Russian collusion, Russian influence.
[02:38:00]  None of it was ever true.
[02:38:02]  Okay.
[02:38:03]  Now they're coming back, but it's the right.
[02:38:07]  It's the right.
[02:38:08]  It's Qatar.
[02:38:09]  It's Iran.
[02:38:09]  It's the Muslim Brotherhood.
[02:38:11]  It's still all fake.
[02:38:12]  It's still all made up.
[02:38:14]  It's all fake, except now it's coming from the right.
[02:38:18]  So it's really a wild thing to go through.
[02:38:21]  And maybe it's more of an experience if you're actually in the media dealing with this.
[02:38:28]  Maybe you guys see it.
[02:38:29]  Maybe you don't.
[02:38:31]  But it's like, that's what it's like.
[02:38:32]  We've now gone full circle with woke left.
[02:38:36]  And leftist talking points to now it's woke right and right wing talking points.
[02:38:43]  And it's never, none of it has ever been true.
[02:38:48]  So it's like Trump has become the right wing Obama, and now Trump supporters have become woke right libtards.
[02:38:57]  And they don't even, it's just like you guys are the exact thing that you used to stand against.
[02:39:02]  Honestly, I don't know how else to put it.
[02:39:05]  You guys are, it's woke right.
[02:39:08]  I don't even know.
[02:39:09]  It's not woke right doesn't describe it enough.
[02:39:15]  But you guys are doing everything the woke left did for years.
[02:39:19]  You guys are doing everything the radical progressive Democrats did for years.
[02:39:24]  You guys are the exact same thing.
[02:39:26]  You just wear a different color.
[02:39:28]  That's it.
[02:39:29]  That's all you guys do.
[02:39:30]  You just wear the color red, they wear the color blue.
[02:39:33]  Everything else is the same.
[02:39:36]  You're uninformed, you're misinformed, you're propagandized, you spew propaganda, you make things up, and at the end of the day, you have no freaking clue about anything.
[02:39:49]  So, I don't even know what you call them, honestly.
[02:39:51]  Neocon doesn't do it.
[02:39:53]  Woke right doesn't do it.
[02:39:55]  There's just, there's no, it's just, it's so perfect.
[02:40:02]  It's so like spitting image.
[02:40:07]  It's like, wow, everything we went through with the woke left, we're now going through the exact same stuff with the woke right.
[02:40:14]  It's the exact same stuff, and they can't even see it.
[02:40:18]  So let's just move on because it's just like, how do you even properly explain it?
[02:40:26]  How do you even properly explain it?

=== Trump Endorses Lindsey Graham Again (04:28) ===

[02:40:30]  Let's see if there's anything else.
[02:40:31]  Trump is dismantling the forest service, closing facilities right before fire season, too.
[02:40:38]  So that's smart.
[02:40:39]  Good job, Trump.
[02:40:40]  I'm sure that won't come back to bite us at all.
[02:40:44]  Oh, big data, big data fights.
[02:40:46]  I'm going to have to deal with that later.
[02:40:51]  Ninth NASA scientist dies linked to secret space programs.
[02:40:56]  Ninth Nine scientists linked to secret space programs have died.
[02:41:04]  That's suspicious.
[02:41:05]  Justice Department opens investigation into NFL anti competitive tactics.
[02:41:13]  Okay.
[02:41:19]  I think that's all we need to do.
[02:41:21]  Okay.
[02:41:25]  Let me do this and then we're going to go to the super chats.
[02:41:32]  This debate just got bigger and more important.
[02:41:36]  And I know I announced this earlier, but I didn't really do a proper announcement.
[02:41:39]  On April 27th, I will be debating Andrew Wilson on whether or not the Trump presidency has been successful.
[02:41:49]  I have shared this link on my X account.
[02:41:54]  If you would like to, Be a part of that debate.
[02:41:57]  If you would like to be in attendance for that debate, you can go to uncensoredamerica.us and you can get your tickets to go to that debate.
[02:42:10]  But I think now this debate is extremely important.
[02:42:13]  It might have just been kind of considered fun before.
[02:42:17]  Now I would say it has extreme importance considering everything else that's going on.
[02:42:22]  So if you're in South Carolina or the area, I hope you can make it.
[02:42:26]  You can get your tickets at uncensoredamerica.us.
[02:42:30]  And to have you there supporting me would be awesome.
[02:42:32]  It would really mean a lot.
[02:42:34]  And we can say hi, shake hands, take a picture if you're so inclined afterwards, too.
[02:42:42]  We like to hang out afterwards.
[02:42:47]  But I think that's a pretty big debate now, considering everything that's gone down since we agreed to it.
[02:42:55]  Pretty big debate.
[02:42:56]  And I think it'll be good, too, because Andrew and I get along.
[02:43:00]  I guess I could say we're friends.
[02:43:02]  But I think that that makes for a better debate because we'll be able to really go in and, you know, get nasty if we have to.
[02:43:10]  But at the end of it, shake hands and say, that was good.
[02:43:13]  Good debate.
[02:43:13]  So looking forward to that at the end of the month.
[02:43:20]  Let's do one more thing before we go to the super chats because I saw some people inquiring about the hat.
[02:43:32]  The hat that I have on.
[02:43:33]  This is our hat at owenschroyer.store.
[02:43:37]  At owenschroyer.store, which we're going to be revamping hopefully next week.
[02:43:42]  We're a little behind on that, I have to be honest.
[02:43:45]  But we are still planning to revamp it next week.
[02:43:48]  So the still alive, still alive FM hat, you can get yours at owenschroyer.store.
[02:43:57]  So for the people that were inquiring about the hat, that's the hat I have on today.
[02:44:01]  Okay, let's do this.
[02:44:04]  Into. the super chats we go.
[02:44:10]  Going to be an interesting one.
[02:44:11]  I feel like it.
[02:44:12]  I feel like you guys are going to have some interesting things.
[02:44:14]  You did the right thing supporting Alex yesterday from Dust Vault.
[02:44:19]  Woofy, Trump just endorsed Lady G again.
[02:44:22]  I saw that.
[02:44:22]  Trump has endorsed Lindsey Graham.
[02:44:24]  So the race in South Carolina Paul Danz, Mark Lynch, Lindsey Graham.
[02:44:29]  Danz dropped out today.
[02:44:31]  Danz is out.
[02:44:32]  He dropped out of the race.
[02:44:33]  So now it's Mark Lynch versus Lindsey Graham.
[02:44:36]  You may recall I interviewed Mark last year.
[02:44:39]  I believe that was October last year.
[02:44:42]  You can find that.
[02:44:43]  Interview on my Rumble channel, on my YouTube channel on X. If you want to learn about Mark Lynch, we did a town hall with him.
[02:44:50]  So this is great news because now we can all rally behind Mark Lynch and hopefully get Lindsey Graham out of office.
[02:44:56]  I can't believe Trump endorsed Lindsey Graham.

=== South Carolina Race Gets Interesting (04:56) ===

[02:44:58]  It's like, that's the obvious.
[02:44:59]  Like, Trump isn't with us anymore, guys.
[02:45:01]  Trump's a neocon now.
[02:45:02]  I mean, he's with Lindsey Graham.
[02:45:03]  What else do you need to know?
[02:45:05]  Cornelius Westernmost.
[02:45:06]  Owen, you're the best interviewer I have ever seen.
[02:45:08]  I'm not glazing.
[02:45:09]  It's simply the truth.
[02:45:11]  I love your panel idea with Tucker, Megan, Candace, and Alex.
[02:45:13]  You should be moderator.
[02:45:14]  It would be massive.
[02:45:15]  I'd love to be moderator.
[02:45:17]  I will say that Nick Sortor tried to make it happen, and it just isn't going to work.
[02:45:23]  It looks like they're just, I don't know, they're not really so interested in coalescing to do this panel for whatever reason.
[02:45:31]  So Nick Sortor tried to make it happen and told me that it ain't going to happen.
[02:45:36]  But.
[02:45:38]  As far as the compliment is concerned, I do appreciate that.
[02:45:42]  I have to say, I was trained on interviews under the tutelage of one Kevin Slayton.
[02:45:51]  That's where I get my interview style from, if you will, if you want to call it that abilities, however you want to say it.
[02:45:58]  That is from Kevin Slayton, who I grew up listening to, Emmy winning radio host, grew up listening to Kevin, and then ended up working for Kevin for about five years, I think.
[02:46:14]  You want to know a funny story about that?
[02:46:17]  So I'm sitting in, I'm 20, 21 years old.
[02:46:22]  I just started working at this radio station.
[02:46:26]  And actually, the group that owned it, what was the name of that group?
[02:46:30]  I don't remember, but they owned two radio stations and a print magazine.
[02:46:37]  And so I'm working there probably just a couple of months.
[02:46:42]  They end up putting me on the radio.
[02:46:45]  I end up getting some production jobs.
[02:46:49]  And anybody that knows the media, it's like, folks, it's really not fun.
[02:46:53]  You have to grind so hard.
[02:46:55]  And it's a little different now with social media.
[02:46:58]  But as far as like establishment media, sports media, stuff like that, you have to grind so hard to climb the ladder.
[02:47:04]  I mean, it is a nasty, thankless grind, honestly.
[02:47:08]  You're broke.
[02:47:09]  Your hours are insane.
[02:47:12]  And you may end up working for a jerk in media, you know?
[02:47:15]  So this is how it goes.
[02:47:16]  So I'm sitting in the studio one day.
[02:47:18]  I'm working on this other station.
[02:47:20]  I think I was working nine to three at that time.
[02:47:27]  I think my hours producing radio, I was producing nine to three time slots.
[02:47:31]  So I'd get off, I'd get out of the studio at three, and Kevin would go on at three, and he'd be in the other studio.
[02:47:38]  And every once in a while, I would just stick around.
[02:47:41]  I lived right down the street at the time in Webster Groves, Missouri.
[02:47:45]  So, every once in a while, I'd stick around to hear Kevin's opening statement.
[02:47:48]  So, he's on a remote and he has a segment and he curses on the air.
[02:47:57]  I think he said shit.
[02:47:59]  I don't remember what it was, but he said one of the banned FCC words over terrestrial radio.
[02:48:05]  So, it goes out over the air, but he doesn't know that because as the board operator and the producer, you're supposed to hit the dump button.
[02:48:15]  You usually have a 10 to 5 second delay.
[02:48:18]  And so you hear a word that you're not supposed to say, you hit the dump button and that word doesn't go out over the airwaves.
[02:48:25]  So Kevin's board op and producer missed it.
[02:48:29]  So Kevin goes into break and he goes, hey.
[02:48:34]  And the guy's name was Clayton, who ironically ended up hating me for years, but I could explain that in a second.
[02:48:41]  So he goes, Clayton, did you get that?
[02:48:43]  You got that, right?
[02:48:44]  And he's like, oh no.
[02:48:46]  And in Clayton's defense, he had a bunch of people distracting him.
[02:48:50]  But still, he didn't do it.
[02:48:51]  So that was like one of the main things you have to do.
[02:48:53]  So Kevin gets pissed.
[02:48:55]  And if you know Kevin, you don't want to make him mad.
[02:48:59]  So he starts ranting and raving through the break.
[02:49:04]  And then Clayton gets into his ear and he says, Hey, Kevin, the break's almost over.
[02:49:08]  And he goes, Oh, no.
[02:49:09]  Kevin's like, Oh, no.
[02:49:11]  Don't throw it back to me.
[02:49:12]  Don't you throw it back to me.
[02:49:14]  I'm not going on air until you're fired.
[02:49:16]  I don't want you behind my board anymore.
[02:49:18]  I will not go on air until you are out of the studio.
[02:49:20]  So I just happened to be there.
[02:49:22]  And I know how to work everything.
[02:49:24]  So I step in.
[02:49:24]  I'm like, hey, I'll do it.
[02:49:26]  And I had somewhat of a relationship with Kevin at the time.
[02:49:31]  So I'm like, hey, I'll do it.
[02:49:32]  I don't mind doing it.
[02:49:33]  So I step in.
[02:49:33]  I'm like, hey, Kevin, it's Owen.
[02:49:35]  I'm going to run your show the rest of the day.
[02:49:36]  He's like, is Clayton gone?
[02:49:38]  Yeah, he's gone.
[02:49:38]  Don't worry.
[02:49:39]  I got your show the rest of the day.
[02:49:40]  He's like, all right, good.
[02:49:41]  So we finished the show.
[02:49:45]  And then after that, Kevin was like, I don't want anyone else but Owen.
[02:49:48]  I don't want anyone else on the board but Owen.
[02:49:49]  And then I ended up working for like five or so years.
[02:49:52]  So just a little story time here on a Friday.

=== Studio Staffing Personal Problem (02:24) ===

[02:49:55]  That's.
[02:49:56]  Who I got my interviewing skills from was Kevin Slayton.
[02:50:00]  That's who I studied how he did interviews and learned and tried to mimic the way he did interviews.
[02:50:06]  So, that's your long story time answer to that question.
[02:50:11]  But, you know, it's funny, and this is the case probably in anything, but, you know, people knew.
[02:50:20]  So many people at that office ended up hating me, which is too bad.
[02:50:27]  But, you know, there were people that worked there for like years, and I pretty much leapfrogged like, you know, a dozen people in my first couple months there.
[02:50:38]  And so it just drove them mad.
[02:50:39]  They hated me for a long time, which is really too bad.
[02:50:42]  But, you know, I work in media.
[02:50:45]  You guys don't anymore.
[02:50:49]  So that's just what happens, you know?
[02:50:51]  That's just what happens.
[02:50:52]  But it's all, let's humble ourselves here.
[02:50:56]  It's all thanks to God's grace and God's blessing.
[02:51:00]  So, long winded answer there.
[02:51:01]  Just doing a little story time here.
[02:51:06]  Just a little story time.
[02:51:07]  Captain Hard, Iran released footage of ambassadors in Italy, Germany, France, UK watching Massage shooting at civilians and causing riots.
[02:51:14]  Explains why NATO didn't get involved.
[02:51:17]  We couldn't even use their airspace.
[02:51:19]  Yeah, well, you know who called that first, Captain Hard, don't you?
[02:51:22]  Right here.
[02:51:22]  Everyone else said, oh, we're going to have NATO on it.
[02:51:24]  No.
[02:51:27]  We bought them brand new Ferrari and Levin crashed it.
[02:51:32]  Oh, you're talking about that's MAGA?
[02:51:33]  Yeah, MAGA was the Ferrari, and then Levin just drove it off a bridge.
[02:51:38]  Candace opened a letter to Trump in 20 minutes.
[02:51:40]  I saw she was going to do a statement.
[02:51:43]  I guess that just happened an hour ago.
[02:51:45]  Deleted for privacy.
[02:51:46]  Epstein boasted of his Angel's Trumpet, a plant known for making people submissive, suggestible, and compliant.
[02:51:52]  Did the deep state Massad come up with a modified version?
[02:51:55]  Explains Trump's 180 otherwise?
[02:51:59]  Yeah, the Trumpet plant and.
[02:52:02]  We had a botanist break that down.
[02:52:04]  And if you've ever seen the movie Blink Twice, I feel like maybe that's where it comes from the movie Blink Twice.
[02:52:12]  You hate duels, but Latina girlfriend considering Spanish citizenship.
[02:52:17]  Tay Tay from Florida.
[02:52:18]  Sounds like a personal problem.

=== Blink Twice Movie Comparison (03:19) ===

[02:52:19]  I'm convinced Trump had Virginia Jew free off.
[02:52:25]  People are going to start wondering now.
[02:52:27]  Dennis, G, I'm sick of Trump over the past year.
[02:52:30]  I voted for Trump twice.
[02:52:31]  I don't have a large following or voice.
[02:52:32]  That's where you come in, Owen.
[02:52:34]  Please keep putting the truth out, brother.
[02:52:36]  You got it, Dennis.
[02:52:37]  You got it.
[02:52:39]  Bad boy channel.
[02:52:40]  If Trump and the GOP are the only way forward after how they betray America, we are damned if we do, damned if we do not.
[02:52:45]  Exactly.
[02:52:47]  Exactly.
[02:52:47]  And people are just, they're opting out.
[02:52:50]  Spain, anti Israel, allows Spanish ships through straight.
[02:52:56]  If you're putting flags in your chats, guys, I can't see them.
[02:52:59]  As you can see in the graphic, the flags don't show up.
[02:53:01]  So it kind of makes it hard for me to read these things, FYI.
[02:53:04]  Spirit world.
[02:53:06]  If there's only one word, To encapsulate Satanism, it's hypocrisy.
[02:53:10]  Second major tenet equals moral relativism, which enthralls our nation.
[02:53:15]  A Semite means descended from Noah's son Shem, but Noah isn't the ancient historical record.
[02:53:21]  No Noah, no Shem, no Semites, thus no anti Semites.
[02:53:26]  Our head is spinning now.
[02:53:29]  Logan Misiak, it's Christians versus everybody, actually.
[02:53:32]  You know what?
[02:53:33]  I could do a, maybe it's not today for the sake of time, but I want to do a conversation about that.
[02:53:39]  Not exactly as you phrase it.
[02:53:42]  I'll just say it like this and move on.
[02:53:46]  You know, I was born and raised Catholic.
[02:53:52]  As I got older, I guess you could say I kind of went, you know, kind of non denominational Christian, like a born again Christian type of a thing.
[02:54:03]  And I've never really felt any desire to go back to the Catholic Church.
[02:54:10]  But I will say, I am so, it seems like the only community right now that is standing for peace and righteousness and truth, specifically on the war front, is Catholics.
[02:54:25]  It really seems to be the Catholics.
[02:54:28]  I mean, dare I say Muslims too.
[02:54:33]  But that's not in my background.
[02:54:36]  I've never felt more inclined to go back to the Catholic Church as I've felt recently with Pope Leo and with some of the other things that the Catholic community is saying and trying to do.
[02:54:54]  It makes me think about going back to a Catholic Church, honestly.
[02:54:59]  Because it was like.
[02:55:03]  I felt that the church was just offering nothing.
[02:55:06]  I felt that the church was not tuned in to modern issues.
[02:55:11]  I felt that the church was either indifferent or not informed or didn't care.
[02:55:17]  And it was just like this process that they go through.
[02:55:19]  It was meaningless.
[02:55:21]  They didn't stand for anything.
[02:55:23]  You know, they aren't trying to move the body of Christ in any direction to help anything.
[02:55:28]  So it's like, well, what's the purpose?
[02:55:31]  And if this is going through the Catholic church right now, if If Pope Leo is influencing the Catholic Church on this right now, it makes me think about it.

=== Church Indifferent To Modern Issues (03:56) ===

[02:55:39]  I got to tell you, it really does.
[02:55:42]  Owen Dan, 2028.
[02:55:44]  That'd be fun.
[02:55:45]  What if I just quit the show and did Dan's campaign advisor?
[02:55:50]  I wouldn't do that to you guys.
[02:55:52]  Robert, kicked out of 110 bars, but it was never their fault.
[02:55:57]  Kicked out of 110 buffets, but no, never mind.
[02:56:01]  Not Boomers.
[02:56:01]  Bongino, 51.
[02:56:02]  Shapiro, 42.
[02:56:03]  Loomer, 32.
[02:56:04]  Crowder, 38.
[02:56:05]  Chamberlain, 40.
[02:56:07]  Pool 40.
[02:56:08]  Wheeler 36.
[02:56:10]  Promoting aged based division is counterproductive and unnecessary.
[02:56:14]  All right.
[02:56:18]  USA, anarcho tyranny, aka laws only for white people.
[02:56:24]  Cowpoke Ranch.
[02:56:25]  I agree, Dan.
[02:56:26]  So if you believe that, why are you running as a Republican, a party completely owned by the Israeli lobby?
[02:56:31]  Run as a Democrat or you aren't serious.
[02:56:35]  I don't know if that's a fair conclusion.
[02:56:39]  Average age of Congress is 65 years old.
[02:56:41]  Time for them to retire.
[02:56:42]  Isn't that the oldest of all time?
[02:56:43]  I think this is the oldest Congress of all time, isn't it?
[02:56:46]  Little Gothics.
[02:56:47]  When Dan was getting.
[02:56:49]  Insta famous traveling with girls and doing the whole rich guy thing.
[02:56:52]  I thought he was kind of gay, but he turned out to be a really stand up dude.
[02:56:55]  He's a real one.
[02:56:57]  And ironically, that kind of rise to fame and popularity is going to benefit Dan in this race.
[02:57:03]  And if they try to use that against him, it's not going to work.
[02:57:06]  Candace Owen is doing a live open letter to Trump.
[02:57:10]  Thank you, Kat.
[02:57:11]  The Bikini Truther, great group here.
[02:57:14]  Love this show.
[02:57:16]  Thank you.
[02:57:16]  As you know, Owen, I'm a proud leftist Democrat, but I've always liked your program.
[02:57:20]  Listening to the other side, I'm genuinely proud of your evolution.
[02:57:24]  Thank you.
[02:57:25]  There's no doubt I probably lean right on most issues, but I'm open minded.
[02:57:29]  And really, this is just all about the truth and presenting the world as I see it through the current events, news landscape.
[02:57:38]  And then you can make up your own decisions politically.
[02:57:42]  But the truth is really what I'm aiming for and just keeping you informed mostly.
[02:57:47]  So that's why, hey, you know what?
[02:57:48]  People on the left listen as well.
[02:57:51]  Here's another one I'm liberal and I support you, Owen and Dan Bilzerian.
[02:57:55]  The left and the right have to primary all Congress people who aren't America first and not.
[02:57:59]  To fix our country is to unite and clean house.
[02:58:03]  I do agree.
[02:58:05]  I don't know if, you know, it's like, is the left and the right ready to do that?
[02:58:08]  There's certainly portions of it.
[02:58:10]  I don't know if it's a mass amount yet, but it could get there.
[02:58:14]  Pittsburgh bad.
[02:58:15]  Trump building arches and ballroom, but no wall.
[02:58:18]  Exactly.
[02:58:18]  Well, or none of them.
[02:58:20]  Arch de Trump, parody of the arch in France.
[02:58:23]  Well, obviously it's inspired by that.
[02:58:26]  Big Viking.
[02:58:26]  Thank you.
[02:58:28]  Spooky Maze.
[02:58:29]  Crowder's a sellout.
[02:58:30]  What did Crowder do?
[02:58:31]  I didn't see anything about that.
[02:58:33]  Scam Bongino.
[02:58:36]  I saw he was bashing Alex today.
[02:58:38]  I'm just not even going to go there.
[02:58:39]  Guys, Trump today talked about the world's fastest reset.
[02:58:42]  A great one.
[02:58:43]  Also, the article that came out about the meeting with bank leaders over the threat to the financial system, cyber pandemic, Klaus Schwab warned of.
[02:58:50]  Yeah.
[02:58:51]  It seems Trump, I told you, Trump's a globalist now.
[02:58:54]  I mean, there's no denying Trump is the top globalist and he's promoting the great reset now.
[02:58:59]  I mean, it's just so clownish.
[02:59:02]  Make sure he voted for Trump three times and all I got.
[02:59:04]  Is rich shitbags ballroom and voted for Trump times three.
[02:59:09]  And all I got was jail time in a ballroom I can't go in.
[02:59:18]  We're debating an anti Trump shirt.
[02:59:20]  Talmud Tatum.
[02:59:23]  My hubby is cunning.
[02:59:24]  You meant to say cunning.
[02:59:26]  I know that.
[02:59:26]  That's good.
[02:59:28]  Let's see here.
[02:59:29]  Owen report price, steel, cancel war midterms.

=== Pure Vanity And Slop On Instagram (02:54) ===

[02:59:36]  Privileged through me, pile drive through me.
[02:59:39]  Oh, oh my gosh.
[02:59:46]  Mitch Connor, not going to lie, lifted and pinned the tides during the Dan interview.
[02:59:50]  Stay swole, Owen.
[02:59:53]  No other option, brother.
[02:59:55]  You got to.
[02:59:57]  I think I'm going to get real vain on Instagram, by the way.
[03:00:01]  I've already told you we're going to do slop.
[03:00:04]  So the DMT, I need to wake DMT up here, too.
[03:00:07]  Hey, DMT, get ready.
[03:00:09]  You're about to be needed here.
[03:00:14]  I told this, this is the conversation I had with DMT and the social media team.
[03:00:18]  Pushing me to do Instagram.
[03:00:20]  I said, fine.
[03:00:20]  You have to understand, I am not somebody that does something for the sake of doing something.
[03:00:27]  And quite frankly, it's actually, it's like, it's counterproductive, to be honest.
[03:00:35]  It's counterproductive because what everybody does in media now is just, just like, just do stuff to do it.
[03:00:43]  It doesn't matter the value, the quality.
[03:00:46]  It's just all about quantity and just push it everywhere.
[03:00:49]  And I hate that.
[03:00:51]  I hate that.
[03:00:52]  I hate watering down my content.
[03:00:55]  I hate saturating my exposure.
[03:00:57]  I hate it.
[03:00:58]  I'm against it.
[03:00:59]  I understand why people do it.
[03:01:00]  I just hate it.
[03:01:01]  So they're like, all right, you got to do the Instagram stuff.
[03:01:04]  I'm not going to freaking do it.
[03:01:07]  So I don't even know what's going on.
[03:01:08]  So I said, all right, well, here's the plan.
[03:01:13]  If we're going to do Instagram, because I'm not on there, I want to formulate a plan.
[03:01:18]  Well, they already had a plan.
[03:01:21]  And they were going to run with it without me, which was fine.
[03:01:25]  That's why they work for me.
[03:01:26]  But I said, here's what we're going to do with Instagram.
[03:01:30]  I'm going to slop it up.
[03:01:32]  I'm going to slop it up on Instagram.
[03:01:36]  I'm going to do pure vanity on Instagram.
[03:01:38]  Like, yeah, we're going to do the, because that's what I thought Instagram was about.
[03:01:42]  So I sent them a video to post.
[03:01:43]  I don't know when they're going to post it, maybe this weekend or something.
[03:01:46]  It's pure slop.
[03:01:48]  You know, I'm talking about the Backstreet Boys.
[03:01:50]  I mean, just pure slop.
[03:01:52]  But it's like to me, I'm like, that's the stuff that hits on Instagram.
[03:01:56]  It's like, I'm not trying to.
[03:01:57]  It's like, do I really need to put my politics on Instagram?
[03:02:00]  It's like, what is that going to do?
[03:02:01]  Is that going to get anywhere?
[03:02:02]  So I'm like, I might as well just do slop that somebody might find interesting or funny.
[03:02:07]  And then they find the politics.
[03:02:08]  And then the social media team, they're like, no, we have a plan.
[03:02:11]  We're putting the political videos.
[03:02:12]  You're doing big.
[03:02:13]  Instagram's doing numbers.
[03:02:14]  So you're going to get slop and politics, I guess, on Instagram.
[03:02:18]  But yeah, I think I'll do like gym content.
[03:02:20]  I mean, we're going to do pure vanity, pure slop.
[03:02:23]  And then they're going to put politics up there too.
[03:02:25]  So we'll see.
[03:02:25]  So maybe it's going to be less work.
[03:02:26]  But I'm doing slop, I'm doing slop videos.

=== Social Media Team Has A Plan (15:53) ===

[03:02:30]  Yeah.
[03:02:31]  You want to hear my breakdown of NSYNC versus the Backstreet Boys?
[03:02:35]  Follow me on Instagram, OwenSchroyer1776.
[03:02:40]  Nationalism is a leftist idea, collectivism.
[03:02:42]  So if you're anti leftist, you're anti nationalist.
[03:02:44]  Right wing fools only believe in rugged individualism.
[03:02:49]  I don't know.
[03:02:50]  Nationalist, I don't think it's left or right.
[03:02:54]  I mean, if you want to talk about are the Nazis left or right?
[03:02:57]  The National Socialists left or right?
[03:02:59]  Probably left politically.
[03:03:02]  I don't think nationalist has any connotation.
[03:03:06]  It's just you prioritize and you take pride in your country.
[03:03:09]  I don't think it's a left or right thing.
[03:03:12]  God bless you, Owen.
[03:03:13]  This was a great show.
[03:03:13]  Thank you, Alex.
[03:03:15]  Hung we low.
[03:03:16]  We are better off with Russia as an ally.
[03:03:17]  Absolutely, but I think we blew that.
[03:03:20]  Red light, meat and pizza.
[03:03:21]  I don't think anyone should vote at all.
[03:03:23]  Massey strike, no votes.
[03:03:25]  Make it the most impactful thing.
[03:03:26]  Voting polls that are empty will be newsworthy everywhere and a big story.
[03:03:30]  Both sides, no vote.
[03:03:32]  Well, somebody has to win.
[03:03:34]  The slop right.
[03:03:36]  Eh, not bad.
[03:03:38]  Not bad.
[03:03:39]  Not it, though.
[03:03:41]  Woke left of me, woke to the right.
[03:03:43]  Woke to the left of me, woke to the right.
[03:03:45]  Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
[03:03:48]  Ken Rose, thank you.
[03:03:50]  Angel or Angus Drum, Angstrom, my dad told my mom he can't be married to someone who is against Trump.
[03:04:00]  That makes fun dinner time.
[03:04:02]  Get Puka Nakua on before next scene.
[03:04:04]  Did you see what they're doing to Puka, by the way?
[03:04:06]  They're making Puka do the apology to her, they're making Puka go to rehab.
[03:04:14]  All for a joke.
[03:04:17]  Then a Jewish person did the same thing, but he doesn't have to go to rehab.
[03:04:20]  Oh, okay.
[03:04:21]  Aiden Ross does it and then makes Puka do it, but Aiden's okay.
[03:04:25]  But oh, Puka needs to be punished.
[03:04:26]  It's so ridiculous, man.
[03:04:28]  It's such a damn cock show.
[03:04:31]  Owen Schroyer's brown sugar.
[03:04:36]  You know that Stones quit playing brown sugar at their concerts because they thought it was racist now?
[03:04:42]  Roger's arguments yesterday completely ignore the war.
[03:04:45]  Love the hat.
[03:04:46]  Thank you.
[03:04:46]  I know him and Alex had a show today.
[03:04:48]  I don't know how that went.
[03:04:49]  I've been a fan of yours for years.
[03:04:51]  Keep up the good work.
[03:04:52]  You rock, Owen.
[03:04:52]  Thank you, Bella.
[03:04:56]  Been saying every day here, you must reunite with AJ, who is the tip of the spear again.
[03:04:59]  You belong together.
[03:05:00]  Search your feelings.
[03:05:01]  Let go of pride.
[03:05:01]  Look, brother.
[03:05:04]  I'm not going to make a big thing of this.
[03:05:06]  Okay.
[03:05:06]  So we can still do it in the chat and everything.
[03:05:08]  I don't want to make this a bigger thing than it is.
[03:05:10]  Okay.
[03:05:11]  It's really not that big of a thing.
[03:05:12]  Nothing is going to change.
[03:05:13]  But I'll just tell you, as I said yesterday, I reached out to Alex.
[03:05:18]  I said, I'm with you 100%.
[03:05:19]  F him.
[03:05:20]  That was the end of the conversation.
[03:05:22]  That's fine.
[03:05:23]  No big deal.
[03:05:25]  I know that people reached out to Alex and said, Hey, you need to reunite.
[03:05:28]  You and Owen should reunite.
[03:05:30]  You should, you know, bring him to the studio, whatever.
[03:05:31]  And he said, Nope, not interested.
[03:05:33]  He has no interest in doing that.
[03:05:34]  He hasn't replied to me.
[03:05:35]  So that's all it is.
[03:05:36]  Don't need to make a big thing of it, but there's your update.
[03:05:39]  So it's not happening.
[03:05:41]  It's okay to lapse.
[03:05:43]  You can come home.
[03:05:44]  I did.
[03:05:45]  What are we talking about?
[03:05:47]  Scheffler plus two.
[03:05:49]  Oh, was that my pick?
[03:05:51]  Majestic Cam.
[03:05:52]  Oh, I see.
[03:05:53]  I told you I don't know anything about the golf tour.
[03:05:56]  How can you blame me?
[03:05:57]  I specifically said I know nothing of the golf tour to tell you who's going to win the Masters.
[03:06:04]  And you're going to blame me?
[03:06:06]  Because Scheffler is plus two today.
[03:06:08]  Isn't he still under?
[03:06:09]  He could still win.
[03:06:11]  I mean, that's just unfair.
[03:06:16]  That is just not fair to do to a guy.
[03:06:19]  To be honest, the best church is within one's soul.
[03:06:22]  And that is the temple of God, anyway.
[03:06:25]  Goldfolds, Blackbeard, what else can you do for a living?
[03:06:31]  I don't know.
[03:06:31]  What is that like?
[03:06:33]  Anything?
[03:06:35]  I suppose.
[03:06:38]  Anything not involving math, maybe?
[03:06:42]  PFF, I guess we aren't getting an infrastructure package ever.
[03:06:45]  Thanks for the show in Christ.
[03:06:47]  Yeah, where's the infrastructure, Bill?
[03:06:48]  I don't know.
[03:06:49]  Where's the infrastructure?
[03:06:50]  It's being blown up in the Middle East again.
[03:06:53]  To be clear, I'm a CETA vacanist Catholic, C M R I. Blackbeard, you are getting peeled slash comments.
[03:07:05]  Are these insults?
[03:07:06]  Because I'm not, it's not hitting.
[03:07:08]  I don't know what you're saying.
[03:07:10]  Karma and kerosene.
[03:07:12]  Until we get a new third and fourth party, nothing changes.
[03:07:17]  Oh, that's.
[03:07:19]  Yeah, I don't know about all of that.
[03:07:21]  Positive nitrogen balance.
[03:07:23]  It's all about the hats.
[03:07:27]  Hats too small, hats too big.
[03:07:30]  Eastern Orthodox hats just right.
[03:07:32]  Have a great weekend, kind sir.
[03:07:33]  Orthodox Catholics, Orthodox Christians, like in Russia, today is actually, well, no, this is Easter weekend.
[03:07:40]  There's a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine because it's the Orthodox Easter.
[03:07:44]  So happy Orthodox Easter.
[03:07:46]  The patriotic panda.
[03:07:48]  Time for a dump Trump shirt.
[03:07:50]  Maybe something like that.
[03:07:51]  Me, mom.
[03:07:53]  I don't know about me, mom.
[03:07:55]  Didn't listen, anyways.
[03:07:56]  Wink.
[03:07:56]  Well, that's good.
[03:07:57]  I told you not to.
[03:07:58]  My priest knows of you well now.
[03:08:04]  Okay.
[03:08:05]  ID Pine Nuts, 14 year Navy vet voted for Trump in 16 and 20 on active duty, got out and skipped voting 2024 because I saw this all coming.
[03:08:15]  You're a real one, Owen.
[03:08:16]  Thank you, Pine Nuts.
[03:08:18]  If AJ truly denies you, God will curse him.
[03:08:24]  All I do is tell the truth.
[03:08:25]  That's all I've done with this whole thing is just tell you the truth.
[03:08:28]  So that's it.
[03:08:29]  We don't need to make a big thing of it, guys.
[03:08:31]  It's fine.
[03:08:31]  It's just like it was before yesterday.
[03:08:34]  So it's all good.
[03:08:35]  All right.
[03:08:37]  Let me make sure we're ready here.
[03:08:51]  You need more compression, nasal AF.
[03:08:58]  Maybe.
[03:09:00]  That's not that bad, though.
[03:09:01]  You're overreacting.
[03:09:02]  You're just trying to get in my head.
[03:09:03]  I don't know what it is you're doing.
[03:09:07]  You're trying to get into my head.
[03:09:09]  I'm not really sure exactly what the goal here is.
[03:09:13]  But all right.
[03:09:15]  Do we have anything else left?
[03:09:17]  Looks like that's going to be it for the super chats.
[03:09:21]  DMT, I think he's gone.
[03:09:22]  He's checked out.
[03:09:24]  He's no good.
[03:09:25]  So, I guess I have to do everything myself.
[03:09:28]  Let's see.
[03:09:33]  Oh, we have a sign of life.
[03:09:35]  Hey, I can just do it if you want.
[03:09:45]  I can just do this if you need me to.
[03:09:53]  Oh, he's got it.
[03:09:54]  He's ready to go.
[03:09:55]  All right.
[03:09:56]  DMT is going to close us out.
[03:09:58]  One more thing before we sign off.
[03:10:00]  Add Joel Skousen to your podcast by monthly from Hannibal.
[03:10:05]  Remember last time Joel and I talked, we got into it because I didn't buy the anti Russia narrative he was selling.
[03:10:14]  But I always liked Joel Skousen.
[03:10:16]  All right, guys.
[03:10:18]  We are about to go to an interview with.
[03:10:24]  Skip Holst on a bunch of stories regarding how there are all of these different hacking mechanisms that AI is using, especially during tax season.
[03:10:36]  And then, if you have not taken advantage of the digital security that Patriot Protect offers, he is going to make a special offer to my audience at the end of this interview.
[03:10:49]  So, if you're looking for cybersecurity, Skip Holst has a special offer for you.
[03:10:55]  At the end of this interview for my listening audience, it's only good for this weekend, but it's really just a no brainer, folks.
[03:11:01]  If you don't have a cybersecurity, if you're not protecting your private information, passwords, you're just nuts at this point.
[03:11:08]  So, we're going to have a great special offer for you at the end of this interview from Patriot Protect.
[03:11:14]  And it's only good for this weekend, by the way.
[03:11:18]  So, I would take advantage of that.
[03:11:19]  All right, DMT, I'm going to assume you're ready to go.
[03:11:22]  Let's take this to the top.
[03:11:24]  Take this interview to the top, please.
[03:11:26]  Thank you.
[03:11:28]  I am signing off.
[03:11:29]  Hello, ladies and gentlemen, friends and family.
[03:11:31]  Owen Shroyer with you here, the host of Get It Together over there.
[03:11:36]  Get It Together.
[03:11:39]  You might say, you might be familiar with this issue.
[03:11:41]  We're going to be joined here by Skip Holst, the co founder of Patriot Protect.
[03:11:45]  Why is Skip joining us today?
[03:11:46]  Well, because he is an expert in cybersecurity.
[03:11:51]  As the co founder of Patriot Protect, he can answer the questions that I have and maybe some questions that we have because you may have been experiencing similar things.
[03:12:00]  What are we talking about today?
[03:12:02]  We're talking about spam phone calls and spam emails.
[03:12:07]  And from my experience, there was a really about a decade, I think, once everything kind of went to cell phones and we quit having to deal with the solicitors, the different types of people that would call your home phone, you know, right when you sit down for dinner.
[03:12:22]  We all remember that.
[03:12:23]  And then once everything kind of went to cellular phones, it kind of went away for a while.
[03:12:28]  Spam calls and soliciting calls, you kind of didn't really deal much with that.
[03:12:33]  It seems it's come back.
[03:12:35]  My phone is getting blown up with spam solicitor calls all the time, my cell phone.
[03:12:40]  Maybe with the emails, it's always kind of been there, but it seems that they're finding a way around the spam blockers, everything else.
[03:12:48]  They're finding different ways to deceive the recipients of these emails, making it look like it's an Amazon email or something official.
[03:12:55]  You click the wrong link and bing, they're in.
[03:12:58]  And so this is what we're talking about today with Skip Holtz from Patriot Protect.
[03:13:02]  Now, Skip, let me ask you the question here.
[03:13:04]  Skip joining us on the phone line.
[03:13:08]  Am I going crazy?
[03:13:10]  Or obviously, with you guys at Patriot Protect, you guys are monitoring this stuff, right?
[03:13:14]  I mean, you're monitoring what you need to do as a cybersecurity expert and what you need to do for the people that use Patriot Protect to protect them from these things.
[03:13:23]  Am I going crazy or are spam calls getting worse?
[03:13:27]  Maybe the emails were always there.
[03:13:28]  They're just getting a little bit better.
[03:13:30]  My phone is blowing up with spam calls.
[03:13:32]  I feel like this didn't happen for years and now it's seemingly every day.
[03:13:35]  Am I going crazy or is something happening here?
[03:13:38]  Firstly, it's a pleasure to be on your show and always a good time talking to you and your audience and all that.
[03:13:44]  You're not crazy.
[03:13:45]  This is what we're seeing an enormous uptick in the amount of cyber attacks that are coming both against the United States in general from state actors, but also against the people, citizens of the United States, residents of the United States, that anybody that has a cell phone, and most importantly, anybody that can be a target to be scammed.
[03:14:09]  You know, one of the most important things that I try to impart to anybody that we talk to about cybersecurity is that cyber criminals, unless, you know, it's a terror cell or, you know, a state of line terror cell, something like that, cyber criminals, scammers that are looking to make a buck are a business unlike any other.
[03:14:30]  That is to say, that they are, you know, as they are business owners that are trying to extract a return out of the effort that they put in to scamming you, right?
[03:14:39]  So when you get a call, And, you know, it may be very simple.
[03:14:43]  It might be a Medicare scam, Medicare, Medicaid scam, where they're just asking you if you're eligible and you might say no or you don't sound like an older person or something like that.
[03:14:51]  And they hang up because why try to squeeze blood out of a stone?
[03:14:55]  They're just going to move on.
[03:14:57]  However, you know, when they're targeting people using information that are available to them, and we can talk about this with AI later on, when they're using information available to them that is published by data brokers, and for those that don't know, If you live in the United States and you're over the age of 18, your name, your email address, your phone number, your age, your relatives' names, your addresses,
[03:15:23]  your past addresses are all published online by these hundreds of data brokers, which is exactly why Patriot Protect exists because we remove you from them.
[03:15:33]  So scammers can take that information and use it to more effectively, that is to say, more cost effectively, target you.
[03:15:44]  Because they know more about you, they have more angles to scam you.
[03:15:48]  Listen, I take a heck of a lot of pride in showing in my own personal cybersecurity as well as the company and the work that we do at Patriot Protect.
[03:15:57]  However, the other day, one of my numbers got a call saying there was officer so and so.
[03:16:05]  They even spoof called from a 202 area code, which is Washington, D.C.
[03:16:10]  So it kind of made it look even more official.
[03:16:12]  And they said, hey, we want to.
[03:16:15]  Know your location or something like that, we have to talk about some official business.
[03:16:20]  Now, you probably know this, like most people.
[03:16:24]  If there's official business coming from a government agent or an officer, law enforcement, or something like that, it's not going to be over the phone.
[03:16:32]  That's going to be a face to face conversation.
[03:16:35]  And so I just said, hey, F you, buddy, and hung up the phone.
[03:16:39]  But that can very easily, if I didn't know what I know about cybersecurity, that would really easily rattle me.
[03:16:48]  Right?
[03:16:48]  And that is a very targeted, you know, scary thing that can happen to people when you hear a phone call saying it's law enforcement and you're in trouble, especially it's gotten quite sophisticated now.
[03:17:01]  I mean, it used to be a lot of, you know, overseas voices, no longer the case.
[03:17:09]  A lot of these cyber criminals have moved their kind of call centers or their, you know, their employees, so to speak, out of South Asia and now into Latin America.
[03:17:18]  So it's just, it's more kind of, Familiar to our ear, and that makes it all the more convincing for us to be worried and therefore be able to fall victim to a scam.
[03:17:29]  Spoiler alert no cop is going to ask you to go to Walgreens and buy iTunes gift cards for them.
[03:17:36]  So do not do that, just
[03:18:19]  to be clear, if ever you find yourself in that sort of situation.

=== Scams Target Elderly Americans (09:57) ===

[03:18:24]  That seems like something they would target maybe elderly Americans with.
[03:18:29]  I mean, that seems like something probably a younger American doesn't really respond to, but maybe an older person might fall for something like that.
[03:18:37]  You know, it's very interesting that you say that because if 10, 15 years ago, I would say that that is the case.
[03:18:45]  Now, however, and I don't know if there's, we're really studying this like in the cybersecurity world because, like, you know, they're, Younger people, you know, the Gen Z and stuff has lost a lot of kind of socialization and phone calls in general because of COVID and, you know, just the shutdowns and everything.
[03:19:04]  There's just not, there wasn't that phone call understanding.
[03:19:08]  Everything has kind of moved over to text.
[03:19:10]  And so when you get a phone call, it can often be very irregular.
[03:19:14]  I mean, there's lots of, you know, younger people don't even have, you know, their phone app as a main app in the bottom of their cell phone.
[03:19:24]  They just don't use it as much.
[03:19:26]  So, when you get a phone call and it's official sounding, it can actually rattle young people as well.
[03:19:31]  So, yeah, I totally agree with you.
[03:19:33]  Like 10 years ago, that would have been the case that it was like, you know, older people that may not have the, you know, the kind of digital experience to be able to field this.
[03:19:44]  But no, we're actually seeing this younger people fall, you know, prey to this as well.
[03:19:49]  So, yeah, it's across the board increasing because of the.
[03:19:57]  Cyber attacks that are going on are as a result of war and disruption in the Middle East as well.
[03:20:03]  I mean, this is the acrimony and the waterfall of consequences that come from that, which we will talk about Iranian hacking efforts and the massive breach that happened just this week, is hitting every aspect of our lives.
[03:20:20]  And we really need to understand how important it is to safeguard ourselves as a matter of our daily lives, right?
[03:20:28]  If you put your seatbelt on when you drive, You need to make sure that you have cybersecurity protection in your everyday life.
[03:20:34]  Well, I do want to go to that Iran angle as it's very timely right now, but I'm going through this.
[03:20:40]  Maybe somebody out there has experienced this.
[03:20:42]  I don't know how rare it is.
[03:20:43]  I did experience this where I had a spam caller, a scam caller try to target my grandmother.
[03:20:50]  She's an old lady.
[03:20:51]  I mean, she's still with it enough, but you get her on the phone and you say your grandkid is in trouble.
[03:20:57]  They can get a little easier to manipulate, let's say, to put it bluntly.
[03:21:04]  And I'm pulling up these stories now.
[03:21:06]  They're even able to use AI voice cloning technology.
[03:21:10]  So, for someone out there that you have a public voice like me, it's really easy to spoof your voice.
[03:21:16]  So, you might think, well, I don't have a public voice.
[03:21:19]  My voice isn't out there on the internet, on the radio.
[03:21:21]  So, that's not really a problem for me.
[03:21:23]  But what we found out is as soon as you answer the call, that's all they need.
[03:21:28]  All that they need is for you to pick up that phone and respond.
[03:21:31]  And now, all of a sudden, they have a sample to clone your voice.
[03:21:34]  I don't know how common this is, but I would imagine it's a pretty effective strategy.
[03:21:40]  And it's probably like a high success rate is how they view it if they can actually spoof your voice and fool your family.
[03:21:47]  You're 100% right.
[03:21:48]  I mean, Owen, I remember you telling that story, and it still makes my heart sink because, yes, your voice is very sampleable because of just the hours that it exists online and the amount of data that is available on that.
[03:22:04]  So that is a very specific use case.
[03:22:06]  But exactly as you said, this is, it breaks your heart.
[03:22:11]  I mean, I'm looking at what you're showing right now.
[03:22:16]  On the screen about children's voices being cloned in order to scam people to make parents believe that their child has been kidnapped because their voice is being cloned.
[03:22:28]  The cost of AI to the cyber criminal and anybody, right, is decreasing such that these capabilities, these hyper targeting capabilities that are also being used by large companies to hyper target us and sell us stuff, is becoming ubiquitous and cheap.
[03:22:49]  And therefore, they are just crazily more effective at scaring us into action that ultimately just puts money in their pockets.
[03:22:58]  That's what this is.
[03:23:00]  They are a business.
[03:23:01]  But yes, If you get a phone call and you answer it and you say, hello, hello, who is this?
[03:23:08]  That could be enough data for an AI scraping criminal syndicate to take your voice and call your bank, right?
[03:23:19]  Use voice recognition, which many banks do, to look up your information from one of the data brokers and find your, if you haven't used a service like Patriot Protect to take you off of this stuff.
[03:23:30]  And you can find relatives' names, addresses, that sort of thing.
[03:23:34]  You can interpolate a lot of information, use that AI scraped tool, and scam, as you said, your grandmother, your mother, your parents, whatever.
[03:23:49]  Call your wife and say, hey, I'm in prison.
[03:23:51]  I need to be bailed out.
[03:23:52]  You need to wire money to XYZ.
[03:23:55]  Yes, all that is correct.
[03:23:58]  And this always comes down to your, and I say you, meaning anybody listening, anybody.
[03:24:04]  Person that's existing in the digital world that we are, your attack surface.
[03:24:10]  That is to say, what is out there available on you that can be used against you.
[03:24:16]  And so, the name of the game, in you know, and again, when I say you need a cybersecurity company on your side, I mean you need somebody that can reduce your attack surface so you are not exposed, you are not a sitting duck, you are not like every other person that has not taken action and therefore, you know, making sure that you're one of the many on the list to be targeted.
[03:24:39]  That's just the reality of where we live in today.
[03:24:42]  So, okay, you think about where are my openings?
[03:24:45]  Where are my weaknesses?
[03:24:46]  And we can get to where you close those doors.
[03:24:49]  But as a topical issue, we're about to get into the major Iranian hacking story.
[03:24:55]  But before we do that, you know, it is tax season right now.
[03:25:00]  And that's one of the biggest scams that is going on during tax season different hackers, data brokers, scammers, whatever.
[03:25:09]  They'll try to deceive you into thinking that there's some sort of a tax issue.
[03:25:13]  Whether they pretend it's your issue and it's the IRS you need to take care of, or they're calling you saying, Hey, I'm a tax company.
[03:25:20]  I can do this or that for you.
[03:25:22]  That seems to be something that ramps up in a tax season like we're in right now.
[03:25:27]  Is that something that you guys hear about often?
[03:25:30]  All the time.
[03:25:30]  Yeah.
[03:25:31]  So, absolutely.
[03:25:32]  So, this is a really important, I hope everyone is listening and understanding the danger that there is right now.
[03:25:39]  So, recent statistic came out this is no secret.
[03:25:43]  Rising costs, gas prices are going insane.
[03:25:46]  In general, we are less wealthy than we were two, four years ago, or whatever, right?
[03:25:53]  That means, and so the recent statistic was that 40 to 60% of Americans rely on their tax refund as the largest single check that they get during the year, right?
[03:26:06]  So it's a big influx of money, or it can be.
[03:26:09]  And so the very common tax scam that happens is that somebody files your tax return on your behalf.
[03:26:18]  How do they do that?
[03:26:19]  What do they need for your tax return?
[03:26:21]  They can go to the dark web, they can get your name, they can get your social security number, they can go to public data brokers.
[03:26:27]  And get your name, your address, your birth date, everything that you need to do to fill out your tax forms.
[03:26:38]  The only thing that they change is the routing number and accounting number to their bank to make sure that when the IRS or your state processes your tax refund from your return, it goes into their pockets.
[03:26:53]  It's simple as that, guys.
[03:26:54]  I mean, really, think about how many times.
[03:26:57]  Remember the.
[03:26:59]  The Experian leak that happened in 2017, it was like 180 million social security numbers.
[03:27:10]  I mean, basically, if you were a tax paying adult, your information was leaked onto the dark web.
[03:27:15]  So everybody's social security numbers have been in the ether for a long time now.
[03:27:23]  And there's a million other breaches that have happened that have exposed social security numbers.
[03:27:28]  So, yeah, of course, this is an extremely common thing, which is why, again, You know, I say if your social security number is out there, do not allow these scammers to have publicly available information about you, your name, your address, all these core statistics about you available, published by data brokers.
[03:27:48]  It's just insane that this is something that we have to continue working towards and talking about.
[03:27:53]  But if you have not taken action about it, you're a sitting duck.
[03:27:57]  I just can't reinforce that enough.
[03:28:00]  I do feel it's inevitable.
[03:28:02]  And I'm just saying that from my experience because I've gone through it multiple different ways.
[03:28:08]  You do feel it's inevitable.
[03:28:10]  And, like you said, you lock your doors at night.
[03:28:13]  A lot of people have security cameras now.
[03:28:16]  You take all kinds of things to protect your property, protect your privacy.

=== Cybersecurity Threats Are Inevitable (12:53) ===

[03:28:22]  I don't know if the consumer has fully caught on to this yet.
[03:28:26]  The market is slowly catching up.
[03:28:27]  That's why Patriot Protect exists.
[03:28:30]  But it's only an inevitability, I think.
[03:28:32]  For a lot of people that are not taking proper precautions to protect themselves, that eventually you're going to run into something.
[03:28:39]  You hope it's not big.
[03:28:40]  You hope it's not big.
[03:28:41]  You hope there's some sort of a failsafe, but you can't be too sure because a lot of people that are victimized by this, it can be more than just a headache.
[03:28:49]  It can be even a life altering, potentially, event.
[03:28:53]  And so that's what we're trying to avoid.
[03:28:54]  That's what you guys try to help people avoid.
[03:28:57]  All right, let's get into this Iranian hack issue.
[03:28:59]  I keep hearing about this.
[03:29:00]  Why are you bringing this up?
[03:29:01]  Why does this concern you?
[03:29:03]  Okay, so a couple things.
[03:29:04]  I mean, firstly, you know, just to get the elephant out of the room, this is the Kash Patel hack, it was one of the more interesting ones that happened in the last couple weeks.
[03:29:15]  So, this is how it happened.
[03:29:17]  So, Kash Patel's personal email address was hacked and all the information was scraped from it, and it was published by Iran, you know, in the last couple weeks.
[03:29:30]  Important to note that the information that was taken and published was taken from 2024.
[03:29:37]  So, they had had this and they were sitting on this for a while.
[03:29:42]  And the point being is that they have an enormous capacity to scrape and house a huge amount of data and hold on to it until it becomes important or expedient or politically or warfare wise helpful for them to release it.
[03:29:59]  And so, guess what?
[03:30:00]  They were attacked.
[03:30:02]  They decided to release this as an act of retaliation.
[03:30:06]  And, you know, To Kash Patel's credit, it was mostly cringy.
[03:30:12]  It wasn't like, you know, there wasn't like, you know, naked pictures or anything in it.
[03:30:16]  It was just him like smoking cigars and like dancing or whatever.
[03:30:20]  So, you know, it was just typical cringe.
[03:30:22]  But, you know, there wasn't, but the point being is that, hey, here is an attack surface for a sitting FBI director that was not locked down.
[03:30:33]  And it just goes to show their abilities, right, that they've been working on.
[03:30:39]  You know, since they really had an awakening of what cyber attacks can do since the 2010 Stuxnet virus that was infected their uranium enriching centrifuges, that was a joint work between US and Israel.
[03:30:54]  That was a big wake up for Iran to say, like, hey, we need to have actual, you know, state aligned or actually state run hacking capability, you know, directly under the IRGC.
[03:31:07]  And that's exactly what they've been working on.
[03:31:10]  And what I hope we'll talk about in a minute is the recent strikes that have.
[03:31:14]  happened by Iran.
[03:31:17]  Well, let's get into that right now.
[03:31:20]  I'm pulling up some of these headlines.
[03:31:22]  You know, it briefly made the news, you know, kind of in the whole spirit of war coverage.
[03:31:28]  But outside of that, there really wasn't much attention to the Iranian hacks.
[03:31:32]  And maybe there's some interest to keep those things under wraps, not let the American people think or worry too much about that.
[03:31:40]  So why don't you enlighten us on this story that really didn't go mainstream?
[03:31:45]  Yeah, look, I mean, again, the fact that this came out and then it just kind of landed with a thud, I think.
[03:31:51]  Just speaks to the, I don't even know what you would call a level of embarrassment or something, or a concerted effort to say that if that's data that's been scraped from 2024, what else do people have?
[03:32:10]  What else do they have?
[03:32:11]  Nancy Pelosi talking about pharmacy trades or something like that in her personal email box.
[03:32:17]  There's a million different pieces of information, the tax surface that could be out there.
[03:32:22]  That really puts people at risk.
[03:32:24]  And I think they really want to take a look at that and clamp it down before that happens.
[03:32:29]  And again, this is, we've talked about a couple of things.
[03:32:32]  We've talked about how individuals, you know, regular Americans can be targeted by these sorts of things.
[03:32:39]  We've talked about how it can be an act of warfare against, you know, heads of state or, you know, heads of large agencies of state like Kash Patel.
[03:32:46]  But what we've been seeing now is, again, Iran does not have to fire an ICBM at America.
[03:32:55]  To cripple American infrastructure.
[03:32:58]  The Stryker hack is one of the biggest hacks that has happened of note lately from Iran.
[03:33:05]  And that was the first, it wasn't even a torpedo across the bow.
[03:33:10]  This was just an enormous, enormous leak that crippled infrastructure.
[03:33:15]  I'll tell you exactly.
[03:33:16]  And this is the difference between cyber criminals and state aligned warfare.
[03:33:22]  Cyber criminals are looking to extort you, look to find some return on an investment of their effort by.
[03:33:30]  Stealing pieces of your retirement or your savings, home titles, et cetera, et cetera.
[03:33:37]  There's a million different ways that it benefits them, and they're just doing it for money.
[03:33:40]  That's actually understandable.
[03:33:43]  They're stealing.
[03:33:44]  That's what it is.
[03:33:45]  In the case of Iran and Striker, what they did was they used a spear phishing attack to an employee that made a mistake that clicked on the wrong thing and had their credentials leaked that allowed them to go in through the Microsoft back door.
[03:34:02]  And what they did was they took 200,000 employees' information and pressed delete.
[03:34:12]  They took all of these servers offline.
[03:34:16]  They just pressed delete.
[03:34:17]  It's not like they encrypted it and said, send $150,000 to this Bitcoin address or something like that.
[03:34:24]  This was an act of terror.
[03:34:26]  This was an act of war.
[03:34:28]  This was a serious thing that meant to inflict harm.
[03:34:31]  So, what is Stryker?
[03:34:32]  Stryker is a Michigan based, enormous multinational conglomerate that provides medical equipment and medical services.
[03:34:42]  And how this was initially found was one of the services they provide is.
[03:34:47]  They give ambulance services, emergency medical services, information that can speak from the cardiac monitoring in the ambulance and send it ahead to the hospital so that as the hospital goes, you know, is anticipating the patient's arrival, they have information of what's going on with the patient's heart and cardiovascular system.
[03:35:10]  That was disrupted in the state of Maryland.
[03:35:13]  The entirety of the EMS and that striker protocol that goes between the ambulance and the hospital.
[03:35:19]  Was taken offline.
[03:35:20]  And that was kind of like the canary in the cold mine that said, hang on, something's going on here.
[03:35:25]  Aside from that, it was about 200,000 employees that woke up to their phones with a, if I'm not mistaken, Iran erased their phones and put an image of a child with a slingshot facing them, like as an image of defiance.
[03:35:42]  And that's all they saw.
[03:35:44]  So, again, enormous attack on an oligopolist, right?
[03:35:50]  One of few enormous large medical service providers.
[03:35:56]  That was the first big attack that they did.
[03:36:01]  And it doesn't take much for me to get passionate about this, so feel free to stop me.
[03:36:05]  But what we also saw was another enormous hack that happened this week with the Rockwell Corporation.
[03:36:15]  I'm just picking it up now.
[03:36:17]  I was going to say, I pulled up some of these stories.
[03:36:19]  Some of these are from the last 24 hours.
[03:36:21]  Yes.
[03:36:22]  Yes.
[03:36:23]  So, Rockwell Automation, it's based in Milwaukee.
[03:36:27]  They had, you know, the lawyers and the PR people get ahead of this, but they said it led to disruptions across several U.S. critical infrastructure sectors.
[03:36:38]  So, we don't really know the full scale of what this did, but it looks like one of their largest.
[03:36:46]  Industrial control systems, which is called their Studio 5000 Logix Designer, was broken into.
[03:36:52]  So, this is again, this is like late breaking.
[03:36:55]  We don't know the entirety of what's going on here.
[03:36:58]  But this is again, you know, one of the United States' largest industrial providers being hacked and harmed by as an act of war, you know, within Iran.
[03:37:11]  I'm going to change the way you think about AI forever in 10 seconds.
[03:37:15]  Instead of thinking about it as a tool or a technique, You know, it's crazy to think about this because we're not even really, I don't even think we're 10%, maybe 5% at highest, maybe closer to 1% towards like full automation.
[03:37:32]  As I'm pulling up these Rockwell automation systems news stories and videos, it's like, okay, we're starting to see how these warehouses and factories are slowly but surely implementing whatever autonomous AI technology that they can get, whether it's to move something, build something.
[03:37:49]  Run logistics.
[03:37:50]  It's crazy to think that somebody can get in there and basically disrupt the whole system.
[03:37:56]  Like I said, right now you're maybe 5%, maybe 5% of our systems are run this way.
[03:38:02]  You know, it's like, what happens?
[03:38:03]  This is not even necessarily a question for you.
[03:38:05]  I don't know.
[03:38:06]  Your company will have to find a way to protect against this, probably.
[03:38:09]  It's like, what happens when you get to like 40, 50, 60% automation?
[03:38:15]  Somebody gets in there and hacks it.
[03:38:17]  We're not talking about a headline that kind of slips through the cracks.
[03:38:20]  We're talking about you're going to know somebody.
[03:38:23]  Everyone will know somebody that was directly impacted by these things.
[03:38:27]  So, okay, fantastic question.
[03:38:30]  And Owen, honestly, I think about this a lot, right?
[03:38:32]  So, you know, people think that cybersecurity and what we do is all data and numbers and, you know, algorithms and that sort of thing.
[03:38:40]  And while that is also true in how we implement it, the way that cybersecurity should be thought about is more of kind of like a metaphysical thing, right?
[03:38:48]  Like, what are the spheres of influence?
[03:38:50]  What are these kind of like boundaries that we have in our lives and the way that we conduct ourselves and our Day to day in a political economy that makes it work or not work.
[03:39:02]  And in general, as you know, over the last 40, 50 years, there has been, in every single industry, a concentration of the amount of firms, right?
[03:39:10]  So we're moving towards a state of competition, towards a state of monopolistic competition.
[03:39:17]  That is to say, that in every single industry, there are three, four, five large players that dominate the huge, you know, the The amount of percentage in that industry, right?
[03:39:32]  So, for instance, in cell phones, you've got Verizon, T Mobile, and ATT, right?
[03:39:38]  Sprint, Singular, all of these regional US cellular companies just no longer exist because they've been consolidated into these three oligopolies.
[03:39:49]  Okay.
[03:39:50]  Now, what happens if one of them goes down?
[03:39:54]  When we centralize our supply chain, when we centralize our critical services, what you're creating is choke points, and those choke points can be exploited, attacked, and cripple the infrastructure that we rely on.
[03:40:08]  If somebody deleted 40 miles of the I 95 corridor, what would happen to the Washington Boston megalopolis?
[03:40:19]  It would be completely crippled because that centralized choke point would not allow how we live to function.
[03:40:27]  This is exactly how these state aligned actors are thinking about things, right?
[03:40:34]  It is a problem of our own creation to say that now you only have a couple different internet providers that you can get it from.
[03:40:45]  Well, that means that when it's centralized, then these critical services go down.
[03:40:50]  That's just it.
[03:40:51]  There's no justice in it, there's no fix.
[03:40:55]  It's just a result of having a centralized system.
[03:40:59]  A centralized piece of critical infrastructure.
[03:41:02]  Decentralization, which is what the internet was theoretically supposed to be about, allows for a much more robust infrastructure because you can't kill it at the choke points.
[03:41:13]  But that's not the world that we exist in.

=== Protect Yourself With 72 Hours (05:59) ===

[03:41:15]  So, again, if you're thinking about, okay, what can I do to protect myself?
[03:41:21]  That is where the necessity to protect yourself with, in the case of cybersecurity, protecting yourself with a cybersecurity team becomes essential.
[03:41:32]  You put a roof on your house because you don't want to feel the rain when you're sleeping.
[03:41:36]  If you get hacked, if you get affected by either cybercrime or whatever Iran or any other state actor could do, and again, we can talk about this either another time or if we have time to talk about the FBI breach that happened as a result of the ATT backdoor.
[03:41:55]  And again, everybody might remember that ATT was hacked in 2024.
[03:42:00]  We see this data all the time in our Patriot Protect blackout, where we look at the dark web and take a snapshot of.
[03:42:05]  What you're exposed of.
[03:42:07]  And we see people breached from that ATT breach all the time.
[03:42:11]  Turns out that was used by the FBI to infiltrate their wiretapping system.
[03:42:18]  And all of these conversations and pieces of snippets of information that was gleaned from the FBI wiretapping program on Americans has been leaked.
[03:42:32]  They suspect by China or Russia or maybe a joint task force between the two.
[03:42:37]  We don't really know.
[03:42:37]  They're being pretty tight lipped about it.
[03:42:40]  The question you should ask yourself is what can I do from an individual as an individual?
[03:42:45]  And the answer is protect yourself with a cybersecurity service.
[03:42:49]  There's just no way around it.
[03:42:51]  Well, you know what?
[03:42:51]  It's funny.
[03:42:52]  Skip Holst, our guest here, the co founder of Patriot Protect.
[03:42:56]  Skip, apparently, you have such a great broadcast voice.
[03:43:00]  People think that you're AI.
[03:43:10]  I mean, I guess if you were going to go to a cybersecurity expert, would you prefer him to be AI or would you prefer him to be human?
[03:43:16]  I don't know.
[03:43:17]  Maybe there's a debate there.
[03:43:18]  No, I can assure you guys, Skip is the real deal, the co founder of Patriot Protect.
[03:43:22]  And here's the deal, guys.
[03:43:24]  And this is why Skip is on today.
[03:43:26]  Patriot Protect, obviously a sponsor of the Owen Report.
[03:43:29]  We really appreciate that.
[03:43:30]  But Skip actually, he's passionate about this stuff.
[03:43:33]  He cares about this stuff.
[03:43:34]  And so they reach out, Patriot Protect, and they say, hey, did you see this story about the Iranian hackers?
[03:43:39]  Hey, did you see that the IRS is warning right now about scam calls?
[03:43:43]  Tax code season.
[03:43:44]  And I said, you know what?
[03:43:44]  I did, but I don't cover it on my show.
[03:43:46]  Let's do a separate broadcast and you can break it all down.
[03:43:49]  So that's what we're doing here.
[03:43:50]  We do care.
[03:43:51]  Hey, look, I don't want you to be a victim of a hack.
[03:43:54]  I don't want you to be a victim of some fraud.
[03:43:56]  I've been a victim of it, folks.
[03:43:57]  It sucks.
[03:43:58]  All right.
[03:43:58]  It just sucks.
[03:43:59]  And you're lucky if you come out of it with no damage done and just time wasted, but you don't even want to do that.
[03:44:05]  So that's what we're trying to avoid.
[03:44:06]  Now, Skip, you told me that you had an announcement.
[03:44:10]  We're about to close off here.
[03:44:12]  You told me you had an announcement you wanted to make before we signed off.
[03:44:15]  And so, I want to go ahead and give you the opportunity to make that announcement.
[03:44:18]  Yeah, totally.
[03:44:20]  And firstly, you know, if I was AI, it'd be really cruel because I have so much lower back pain and it might be nice to be a computer and just not have that.
[03:44:28]  But that's what AI would say.
[03:44:29]  Okay, now I'm getting a little suspicious.
[03:44:31]  Yeah, well, AI doesn't have to wake up and take two Advil.
[03:44:34]  That's a problem of my own.
[03:44:35]  You're trimming trees and it just happens, man.
[03:44:37]  What are you going to do?
[03:44:38]  Yeah.
[03:44:39]  So, yeah, listen, you know, I always try to come bearing gifts.
[03:44:43]  And what we got today is we want to make our typical promo code, which is OWIN.
[03:44:48]  O W E N, which is typically a 15% discount.
[03:44:52]  We're doubling that today because of the risks that we're facing right now.
[03:44:57]  We're making that 30% off all of our plans for the next 72 hours from this broadcast.
[03:45:03]  So, really hope people take advantage of it.
[03:45:05]  You know, there's another five days left of tax season.
[03:45:09]  You know, this is just, it's such a critical time to be, you know, to be concerned, both from state actors and from Just run of the mill cyber criminals, which we're seeing a huge uptick for because of the vulnerability we're all experiencing.
[03:45:26]  So, do yourself a favor.
[03:45:28]  Get this for, you know, it comes down to like $3.50 a month, like $3.50 a month if you get the annual plan and take advantage of that savings.
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[03:45:37]  It's so cheap compared to the consequences of not having that.
[03:45:41]  So, really hope you take advantage of it.
[03:45:43]  And listen, Owen, you know, I love coming on your show.
[03:45:47]  And unfortunately, there's going to be stuff that happens next time that I come on.
[03:45:51]  So, you know, Hope everybody minimizes their attack surfaces this weekend.
[03:45:55]  That's all I got to say.
[03:45:57]  It's very simple, guys.
[03:45:58]  You're going to go out this weekend.
[03:45:59]  Maybe you're going to get a cup of coffee.
[03:46:01]  Maybe you're going to get an adult beverage, buy a movie.
[03:46:05]  For the price of a single beverage, for the price of a coffee, you can protect your digital identity, protect yourself online, protect yourself from these hackers.
[03:46:13]  It's really that simple.
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[03:46:26]  Yeah, that's right.
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[03:46:31]  So, like, you know, take advantage of it.
[03:46:34]  Yeah.
[03:46:34]  Well, we love you guys at patriot-protect.com/slash/Owen.
[03:46:38]  72 hours, guys, you got this weekend to get 30% off.
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[03:46:51]  Skip, have a great weekend.
[03:46:52]  Take it easy on those trees, or maybe I should be telling them to take it easy on you.
[03:46:56]  Yeah, no, exactly.
[03:46:57]  I mean, you know, I'll wear a helmet if I have to, but the lower back's taking the big brunt of the beating.
[03:47:03]  Always a pleasure to come on, buddy.
[03:47:04]  All right, guys.
[03:47:05]  Hey, thank you.
[03:47:06]  Great broadcast, guys.
[03:47:07]  We'll see you next time.
[03:47:10]  Imagine being able to build anything just by thinking about it.