Owen Shroyer warns of skyrocketing digital theft, from doxxing and voice-cloned scams to $600M lost annually via stolen identity tax refund fraud, as AI-driven criminals exploit unregulated data brokers like Fast People Search. Major breaches at Panera Bread, Under Armour, and AT&T’s 2024 exposure of all Social Security numbers prove systemic failure—leaked credentials often resurface unchecked. He endorses Patriot Protect, a U.S.-based service offering dark web scans since 2008 and "blackout" removal, stressing its proactive, 24/7 protection as essential for anyone’s safety, not just targets. Use promo code "Owen" for 50% off an annual plan. [Automatically generated summary]
If you're tuning into this, you know that there's an issue going around right now.
Maybe you've seen emails.
Maybe you've seen headlines.
Maybe you have even been a victim of this personally, and that is digital information theft.
Now, what am I talking about?
I'm talking about addresses, phone numbers, spamming.
It comes in all kinds of different ways.
You may have even gotten an email from a subscription that you've signed up for on a website, maybe a product you've purchased on a website.
And all of a sudden, you get this email of a class action lawsuit or a warning that your data has been breached.
It's becoming more and more common.
Now, if you are unaware, this is something that's near and dear to my heart.
And here's why.
Now, I'm a public figure.
And what comes along with that is there's constantly people trying to mess with you and do harm to you.
So I've been doxxed, my private address, phone number.
And in light of this, I've had death threats sent to my house.
I've had SWAT teams sent to my house.
Just you name it, the worst stuff.
I've also been a victim of bank fraud.
So unfortunately, I know this stuff personally.
Now, me as a public figure, okay, maybe it comes with the territory.
I did not expect for this to also impact my family.
And this is what really drove me crazy.
My family didn't ask for this.
I'm in the public light.
Okay, you're going to get some of this, but not my family.
I had multiple members of my family, just because their addresses, phone numbers, and names were attached to mine, also have to deal with this harassment.
So what we want to do is we want to stop this from happening to you.
Trust me, it's happened to me personally.
You don't want to go through this.
We want to stop this from happening to you.
And the good news is, as this is becoming a bigger and bigger issue, as everything is going online and everything is going digital with your data, the marketplace is starting to catch up.
And there are now products and services that can actually help you stop this from happening.
So what we're going to do today is we're going to bring in one of the experts from Patriot Protect, Skip Holst, who is going to tell you exactly what he recommends and how you can stop this from happening to you.
And also tie this into what's going on every single day with these new digital hackers.
So Skip, thank you for joining us.
unidentified
Owen, it's really a pleasure.
It's really a pleasure.
Thanks for having me on.
And for everybody that's listening, you know, we don't want to have to do this.
This is, you know, this cybersecurity and being interested in being involved with keeping people safe.
You know, it's only a calling because we have to do it.
Scary Family Data Exposed00:04:26
unidentified
You know, 20 years ago, the scams that we had was, it was just, it was so different.
You know, things coming in the mail and, you know, calls from long-lost cousins and stuff like that saying, you know, you got a little, you know, long-lost uncle died and you get roped into some financial scam.
But, you know, in any functioning economy, you know, we wouldn't have to be doing this.
You know, the ground underneath our feet is just changing so quickly with AI and, you know, the arrows in the quiver, so to speak, that these companies, you know, these scammers and the hackers have to get at you and get at your pocketbook.
It's the same as it's ever been.
And I'm so sorry, Owen, you know, for what you had to go through.
You know, you got to see, unfortunately, the really darker side of what is the cost of having your personal information exposed by all of these data brokers and all these companies.
It's really, it's really sick stuff.
And I'm glad that, you know, our service exists for somebody like yourself and others who are interested in their personal safety.
You know, there's a, there's a, we're, we're, we're 2A advocates, but you don't want to have to use it if you don't have to by preventing somebody from getting to your door in the first place.
What I was so surprised at, and I said this in the opening, what I was so surprised at was how easily they were able to access my family.
And what was even crazier, you know, when you kind of go through the process of, you know, trying to snuff this stuff out and make sure it's not there, I was amazed at how they basically had an entire family tree.
It's like we were able to find some of the sources of where they got the private information.
And then they also had essentially a layout of my entire family tree and not just my direct family.
We're talking about extended family.
I'm talking about in-laws.
That's what was so shocking about it is that it's become so advanced now that they create entire trees, entire family trees of personal information.
Not like you said, like maybe spamming phone calls, spamming emails.
God forbid, somebody get your debit card number or a password to one of your accounts.
They got entire databases of your extended family now.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I mean, think about it.
You know, this is, this is a, it's an illegal business that they're in, but it's a business nonetheless.
And, you know, anybody that's running a business is always measuring input versus output, right?
Like what resources am I putting in to try to target somebody, a customer or whatever, or the resource itself, in this case, us and our pocketbooks and our information, our taxes, our retirement savings, our home address.
So they're putting all this stuff together.
And that includes points of weakness, which is your family, your family members.
I mean, even if you, if you, I urge everybody to do this, because if you haven't done it and aren't horrified already, you're, you know, buckle up because you're going to have to.
Go to Google, type in your name, type in your address, and press enter.
And what you will see is dozens, if not hundreds of sites that have, you know, your, your personal information.
Again, exactly as you described, Owen, your name, your address, phone numbers, past phone numbers, past addresses, and then the really scary stuff, which is your family, your family members, their names, their ages, where they've lived.
It's like, you know, you just start clicking around in any one of these data broker sites like Fast People Search, True People Search, White Pages, Nuber.
There's a million of them.
And the thing is, they keep popping up and there's more every day.
So needless to say, we don't sleep in that often.
We're pretty busy.
It's always a lot for us to get ahead of and stop it.
Do they create like mirror sites or like dummy sites where you're able to locate one of them?
You just name some of the main ones.
Do they then like just copy and paste these things to think that it's like you're going to play whack-a-mole with them?
Data Broker Scams00:03:13
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I mean, you know, if you, if you start to like, you start to look these companies up and you maybe you're, you know, because they know what they're doing and maybe you can find their address or their PO box.
And then you look up the address and you realize it's like a UPS store in some strip mall somewhere.
Point is, is that they're, you know, they, they hide behind being a, uh, you know, a, a company that just, you know, is pops up because they are meant to be disposable.
What they do do, and this is, you know, something obviously that we focus on and address a lot, is that they often share common databases.
And so what they're, they're just call it, you know, they, they re-skin the company with a different name and a different kind of marketing campaign to be searchable.
And they, they know their search engine optimization.
They know how to, you know, manipulate the data sources.
And basically what they want to be is the one that the cyber criminals click on when they're targeting people.
That's really what this comes down to.
And so, you know, if it's, if it's this, this batch of, you know, this batch of data brokers that we cover today is going to look different than the batch of data brokers that we cover tomorrow because it's just a constant moving target.
And yes, that's exactly correct.
They, they are, you know, they're pulling off of the same databases, but they're just reskinning themselves and working on their own search engine optimization so that they can sell your private information, you know, for pennies.
You know, here's another one as I'm pulling all these headlines up.
There's so many of them.
Here's a question for you.
How often do they catch these guys?
I was amazed.
You know, my case, it got federal attention.
The FBI got on my case.
I think in the end of it, we had five different local jurisdictions and then the FBI were all involved in my case.
This is almost a year ago now.
Nobody's been caught.
Nobody's been arrested.
And quite frankly, in my case, it was attempted murder.
I mean, that's what it is.
When you do a false police report and send a SWAT team to somebody's house, I don't know if you've seen the video, but I had multiple green lasers on my head, my neck, my back, my chest.
So that's attempted murder.
Nobody's been arrested for that.
They really, I don't even think they have any leads at this point, despite all the different data points and everything we were able to give them with the fake pizza orders, the other food delivery stuff, the different sites where we were able to find where they pulled my private information.
How often do these criminals even get caught?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, you know, I think we all know the answer to that.
It's just, they just don't.
And there's a couple of reasons for that.
I mean, you know, the, you know, the first thing is the, the, the breadth of complaints that occur, right?
This scamming happens to individuals.
And so it's hard to pin down, you know, there's no class action lawsuit that, you know, 30,000 Americans who have been scammed, you know, in the last week or whatever, they're not going to get to find each other and get together and be able to do some sort of coordinated attack to try and find the source, right?
Voice Scam Tactics00:15:07
unidentified
It's just, it's just not how it happens.
And then, and what are you going to do?
You're going to target a Bitcoin address?
It's just, it's, it's feasibly impossible.
So yeah, the answer is I've never heard of, I've never heard of one.
There's just, there's been a couple exposés in the last year or so.
Bloomberg did some good work on this, the media outlet of looking at, I don't know how to put this any other way than saying like scam slave farms in Southeast Asia that literally have enslaved people that are sitting trying to scam you under horrible conditions because they're in they're captured.
And there were some in Southeast Asia in Malaysia and Cambodia.
Superman, frankly, he's been on a kryptonite kick of late.
So he's been unavailable.
What do we do?
You know, it's just, it's a crazy, it's, there's no way to tar to functionally target this, especially when it's like an extra judicial.
It's, you know, it's outside of American borders a lot of the time.
You know, even in the case of when a lot of these companies get hacked, right, that takes a slightly more sophisticated hacker to do it.
I mean, really what it comes down to is they end up targeting employees at a large company.
And this was the case in one of the breaches we reported on in the DoorDash breach where, you know, they just found somebody.
They did a phishing campaign, emailed a bunch of employees, and then one of the employees was dumb enough to click on it and give them the keys to the castle.
So, you know, this is that is done by slightly more sophisticated, often state or state aligned actors in Russia and China.
And what they do is ransomware attacks by, you know, hacking in.
encrypting and then demanding a fee to unencrypt the company data, which almost always gets paid because what are you going to do?
You know, be a be a hospital system somewhere in the United States and not spend $150,000 or whatever it is to get all your patients information back.
But the first, the first time I ever dealt with this was probably had to be like 10 years ago when I had some bank fraud and some charges started popping up on my debit card.
And, you know, if you're not, if you're not really monitoring this stuff, it's kind of easy for them to sneak stuff in.
It's kind of like what they do with email.
They'll like dummy, you know, most people have, say, an Amazon account.
And so they'll dummy an Amazon email.
Like you said, it'll be some phishing email.
And you think, oh, it's they're asking me about an Amazon purchase or something.
And you click on that, but it's not Amazon at all.
It was fake.
And then all of a sudden they're into your system.
And so if you're not watching your debit cards, I forget what it was.
I think they were dummying, it might have been a Netflix or something.
They were dummying some common subscription that you see on your debit report and you think, oh, whatever, that's just my subscription.
And then once they kind of, once they kind of ding you for $10 a couple times, then they take the big swings.
And so they ended up going for a couple thousand dollars with me a couple of times.
Luckily, I had some fraud protection and they alerted me and it ended up coming from where they determined it came from was a tobacco company in Canada.
Right.
And so they told me, they're like, hey, you've never made a purchase in Canada and you've not made a tobacco purchase in Canada.
Is this you?
And I said, no, it's not me.
And so there were like three or four charges that they tried to ring up in a couple of minutes.
And luckily that got caught and stopped.
But it's like, that's kind of what they do, unless you're paying really close attention.
Like, is that really an email from Amazon?
Is this really a debit charge for this subscription I have?
And it's like, okay, once they can get away with it a couple of times, then they feel like they've got you.
They try to reel you in for the big one.
unidentified
That's exactly right.
You know, the question is, you know, if the question is, what are some of the most common ones that we see?
I mean, you know, we see them all the time, the kind of surface level stuff that we get hit with, right?
Like those texts that you get saying, hey, your package is held up by the United States Postal Service and it gives you some incomprehensible URL to click on.
And then, you know, it's just a simple phishing attack.
You know, we can kind of know, most people kind of know not to click on that stuff now.
So that's, that's one thing.
Honestly, the thing that we see the, we're seeing more of now, actually, that's becoming more common is phone calls that you're getting.
A customer reached out to us the other day asking us about this.
A phone call that you get saying, and they know your name and address.
And they're calling from a number either that's spoofing your area code or it's an 877 number, which is harder to track because anybody can just purchase one of those.
And they say they have your name and address because they look you up on the on the on the The data brokers that we remove you from, right?
That Patriot Protect removes you from.
And they say, we're trying to serve you a lawsuit and we're just confirming your name and address.
And the point of that is that it stops you.
It makes you freaks you out, right?
Because here's somebody that's on the phone telling you that they're trying to target you.
But it's just for a legal purpose.
Now, if you reverse search the phone number, it's a, you don't find anything.
So that's your first clue that you know it's a scam.
And they even give you a reference number to call back.
They say, you don't, you don't trust us?
Here's your reference number.
You can call back.
What they're doing is they are casing you to see how gullible you are, right?
This is their threat.
They're phishing.
In fact, because they have your name and address, this is what's known as spear phishing because they're using it.
This is like, you know, this is what big time criminals do.
They case the joint, they case the target.
This is how advanced this stuff has become.
unidentified
Yeah.
And we haven't even touched on how they're using AI for this.
But yeah, you're exactly right.
They have, so they, they spearfish for you.
They're using a rifle rather than shotgun approach by using your name and address.
And what they're doing is based off of whether or not you just hang up or call back, use your reference number, they are writing that down and putting you in the maybe category or the this is a, you know, a guy's got gullible written on his ceiling category, right?
They know they, they're telling their superiors now, hey, I got one on the hook because it's cheap.
It's cheap to get a bunch of people in a, in a call center sort of thing to get them and calling these, you know, people to try to figure out whether or not they're gullible.
And then they give you, they give that to the more advanced agents.
I had somebody that tried to, I guess they were able to get my grandmother's phone number.
You know, my grandmother's in her 90s now, and she's still with us and still with it enough.
But, you know, they do a call to my grandma.
And the first time they pretended that they were law enforcement and they said something along the lines of, oh, I was in trouble, whatever, trying to get money out of her, right?
It's like, oh, you need to rescue your grandson.
He needs money to, you know, avoid jail or whatever it is.
And she's, you know, she's with it enough that she said, oh, okay, hold on.
And then she called my mother and my mom was like, no, that's not happening.
You need to hang up.
Okay.
But they got her on the line.
They came back a second time.
And this is maybe where you're getting into the AI stuff.
And this is where it's starting to get wild.
They came back a second time with an AI voice of me to try to make it sound like me.
Now, luckily, she, you know, the first time she was, she was with it enough to say, okay, hold on, this doesn't sound right.
So she did it again.
She called my mom.
My mom said, no, that's not right.
So it's, I don't know if you were going to go there next with the AI, but that's how crazy this stuff is getting.
Now, that might be a little more of a rare case because I'm somebody whose voice is out there on the internet hours every day, but that's what they were able to do.
And so they think, oh, you know, hey, this guy's got an old grandma.
Let's let's give it a go.
unidentified
Listen, Owen, you're knocking on something really important here because that's yes, yes, your case is specific because you have, you know, hours of your recorded voice on the internet.
However, you start to ask yourself, okay, well, that might be the case for Owen, but you know, little old me, who would be, who would be targeting me?
How would they get my voice?
And to that, I will tell you this.
What they now do is they get you on the phone for something innocuous, right?
Something that's, you know, they call you saying, you know, like with this, with the, the, you know, the, we want to serve you with legal papers or something like that.
They have you on the phone, you say a couple words, and that can be enough for an AI model to clone your voice and then contact the older, you know, more vulnerable relatives that maybe own a home.
Maybe that's an opportunity to do a title theft.
There's a million different ways that they can be exploited.
So, you know, we talked about this even as even as early as like, I don't know, two years ago, where we say, you know, people were, people were thinking that scammers are out here, you know, using bow and arrows when they've moved on to gunpowder, right?
The AI is like a nuclear sub.
It's just, it's such a more effective and cheaper tool for them to use to target you.
Think about that.
I mean, you know, two years ago, if you're a cyber criminal syndicate, you would have to hire or enslave or some amount of cost a bunch of people to do exactly that.
Have, you know, call, they get a call list of a thousand numbers, you know, to go through for the day across the United States, see who's on the hook, see who's vulnerable, see who's bewildered, and then get them and then, you know, put that up to the higher ups and then move on to the next list the next day.
But now with AI, it makes everything so much less costly as far as labor hours go.
Again, this is a business just like any other.
It just happens to be an illegal business that ends up getting away with a lot of it.
A lot of the times these things aren't prosecuted because the victims are embarrassed and don't want to say that they felt that they fell victim to a love pig butchering scam, as it's known, where it's like, you know, they fatten up the pig before it, before you know it, you know, they're going to the CVS, buying, you know, iTunes gift cards, sending $500 to God knows where.
And it's, and I guess you bring up another one there.
There's so many different angles that they go about this stuff.
It's like they're constantly finding new angles.
I'm scrolling through the webs here.
You know, there's so many stories.
I wouldn't, I've heard of the voice.
Obviously, I've heard of the AI voice cloning scam before.
I didn't realize how big it was.
Some of these stories are talking about millions of victims here.
How hard is that?
Because obviously, you know, I've gone through the process with you guys.
I've gone through the process with Patriot Protect.
And okay, there's certain things where you know it's like, look, here's the stuff, your address, your phone number, other prior addresses.
And it's like, okay, you can kind of go from there and find some of the find some of the big sites that do it.
What about with the spam calls and emails?
Are you guys able to block that too?
Because I've heard, you know, we spam calls kind of became like old hat.
It's like you weren't getting as much spam calls and emails anymore.
It seems like they're coming back.
It seems like the spam calls and emails are starting to come back again.
unidentified
Totally agree.
And again, this is part of the reason why the scam calls are coming back is because they're getting people on the phone and trying to get them to speak and so they can clone their voice.
They may not use it against you because the other, what they use, right, is not like a single piece of information against you.
And, you know, this is one of the things that happened recently is what these more advanced cyber criminal syndicates are doing is packaging all this information about you.
Right.
So it's not just your social security number.
It's also your name, your address, all the things that the data brokers put out there about you.
And that's it's when they can complete the picture, when they can case you properly, that's when they start to, that's when they start to really hone in, you know, to give you.
I mean, really, what these data brokers are, it's a treasure map to your house.
It's a treasure map to your pocketbook.
So, the scam calls are a piece of that.
Most of these phone numbers, scam call lists, are easily gotten by just Googling your name, right?
I can Google if you've never signed up for an opt-out for Patriot Protect or an opt-out service.
What you can do is just Google your name and address or Google your name.
And I bet within two to three clicks, I can get your phone number, right?
You are, if you're an American over the age of 18, these companies are publishing your information out there.
So, just by virtue of us have you being a Patriot Protect customer, yes, we take you off of Google.
We make you effectively ungoogleable for all of the commercial data brokers, private data brokers that we can take you off of.
That is where the primary source of information is, right?
It's free for any criminal cyber criminal syndicate to Google you worldwide.
So, if you take that information off, what we are doing is making you a vastly higher-cost target for them to target.
They just won't even bother with you.
Why would they, right?
They're doing a numbers game.
So, if you have, you know, our service or care at all about making sure that you are safeguarding yourself from these cyber criminals, why would they bother with you?
They'll just go on to the other jerk that isn't thinking about this or taking control at all.
You know, it is, it is, they call it, I guess, tax season.
We're coming up on tax season.
What about these fraudulent calls and emails?
Almost everybody's probably dealt with this by now.
Oh, it's the IRS.
Oh, it's a tax service.
Oh, you owe taxes or this or that or the other thing.
How often do you hear about that?
That seems to be one that's fairly common.
unidentified
Yeah, we've got to be the busiest folks outside of accountants this time of year.
Every, you know, this is this is a super, super vulnerable time, you know, in these next couple months for any American taxpayer because this is a way in, right?
It's all, it's, it's a confusing process.
You don't really know which company to trust.
You, you know, if you, if you use TurboTax, which we'll talk about in a second, because they had a big leak recently, um, and you don't know what company is actually handling your information.
So there's a uh, uh, there's, there's a million different ways that this can happen.
I'll explain at least a couple of them.
Uh, stolen identity tax refund theft.
That's one of the big ones, right?
And how does that work?
Um, they a cyber criminal or a criminal or whatever gets hold of your social security number and date of birth and files your taxes for you.
Now, you might ask yourself, like, okay, well, how do they get their social security, my social security number?
Any one of the dozens of social security breaches that happened in the last 12 months alone is enough to put social security numbers out there.
And they, and then you ask yourself, well, okay, they've got my social security number.
How do they get my date of birth and name and address?
Well, that's easy.
If you've got, if, if you have not signed up for an opt-out service, it's two clicks away with one Google, right?
It's nothing for them to do that.
So, what these do is they file your taxes on your behalf and they put their routing number and account number for their bank in place of yours.
So your return gets sent to them because you did not safeguard your identity online.
Simple as that.
Easily over several hundreds of million dollars in refunds stolen just in 2025.
So that's the number one.
That's easily the biggest one that's happening.
And if you haven't safeguarded yourself against this, you're vulnerable this year too.
I'm pulling up multiple stories here that are from today that are covering this.
I don't know if this has to do with the big TurboTax one that you're discussing, if you want to get into that now, but I've got multiple headlines just from today talking about these fraudulent IRS and tax scams from phishing calls and emails.
So yeah, this is even in the news as of this day.
unidentified
Yeah, of course it is.
And again, you know, this, it's not going to stop.
It doesn't, it doesn't just go, the problem doesn't just go away.
You know, yeah, TurboTax in the last six years, they've been had three major credential stuffing attacks.
Hackers use the, you know, they use stolen passwords from other sites to access users' accounts.
In fact, that's one of the other services that we provide is our blackout service, which is to scan the dark web for what of you has been leaked out there and is for sale about you in the last, we go up, we go all the way back to 2008.
So, you know, your passwords, your, your emails, we scan for your email and your phone number and we'll tell you what's out there on you.
So, you know, this credential stuffing is very simple, right?
You have your password that you've reused since, you know, 2010 or whatever, and they just try it, right?
They have these user, these data dumps that are out there.
They have your email address because you didn't take control of your data, and then they just try it.
Maybe it's worth it.
And if they get in, that's when the trouble starts and they'll they'll be able to log into your TurboTax account or whatever, you know, you're try out the different passwords, irs.gov, and they'll take your tax refund.
It's extremely common.
And it breaks my heart every time we hear a customer saying, you know, that it happened to them and that's why they signed up for us.
And I'll tell you what, it's a heck of a lot cheaper to take control now than it is to deal with one of these things if you get scammed.
Yeah, especially if any of if any of it fails in the process.
Like I said, they hit me when I had the debit fraud.
They hit me, they dinged me for like a couple of $10 deals, smaller charges that I just didn't notice.
And then that's when they go for the big one.
It's like, if you're not able to catch that, yeah, it's not going to be fun to have to deal with that.
And then good luck clawing that money back.
And that's just, you know, that's just money stuff, right?
All right.
Okay.
Nobody gets hurt.
The other stuff that I dealt with as far as, you know, the private addresses and the family members, that's when for me, it was like, okay, I got to go next level.
I can't, I can't risk that for myself and my family anymore.
Now, I will say this.
What's so strange is, because I'm looking at some of these stories, maybe with TurboTax, it's like you get, you know, they put a lot of private information in there and you could understand why somebody might target that, why a digital criminal might target that.
A couple other things that were in the news recently, Panera bread under armor.
Like what?
I go get a sandwich.
I go buy some shorts.
How does that work?
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, think about it.
I mean, you know, these companies, they lower their cost of customer acquisition by knowing more about you, right?
They know, they know if when they know more about you, they can target you for the, you know, the right deal at the right time.
There's a million different ways that they, that you're, the reason why your information is valuable to them.
So the question is, well, if they have all this information about me, what are they doing with it?
Well, they might be using it themselves, but it's a lot more valuable to cyber criminals if they have that information and they can do more nefarious things and sell you a sandwich, right?
So it's, it's, they, they collect this information, but there's no real regulation that says how they have to, uh, you know, protect it.
And more importantly, there's nearly no consequence aside from, you know, the, you know, 100,000 sandwich buyers across the United States to get together for a class action lawsuit, which just won't happen, right?
They, there's no consequences for Panera Bread getting hacked and having all this information stolen.
Ditto with Under Armour, Ditto with AT ⁇ T, which had, you know, one of the largest data breaches in history happen in 2024.
Every single AT ⁇ T customer had their social security number and et cetera, et cetera, stolen and put on the dark web.
In fact, we see it all the time.
We have a joke in the office about like, we know who an AT ⁇ T customer is.
You know, we know who has AT ⁇ T as their cell phone plan because it shows up in their blackout service.
So, you know, it's just brutal.
Yeah, it is.
It is what it is.
It's just if you every time, you know, every time you hear all these data breaches and it's in the news and you think, wow, that really sucks.
I don't know what, you know, I hope it doesn't happen to me.
Every most people, a security system, a home security system has changed throughout the years, right?
A home security system has changed and it's kind of gotten to the point now where it's very consumer friendly and even affordable to have a video surveillance system and then you can get kind of advanced as you want past that.
But having a video camera surveillance system has become very consumer friendly and very affordable.
And it's kind of a normal thing now.
I think the same thing is going to happen with your guys' services.
And everybody eventually is going to get hit by this, right?
I mean, it's just, it's just a numbers game.
Eventually, everyone is going to get hit by this unless you take the proper precautions.
Unfortunately for me, I was the dummy that waited until it got to the worst point.
So unfortunately, that was the case for me.
But I will say, look, guys, Patriot Protect, obviously, you know, if you listen to my show, they are a big sponsor of the show.
But it's not just that they sponsor the show and we appreciate for them that.
They are officially my digital protection service.
They are the digital protection service for the WIN network, for my business.
And I got the most advanced services.
I know you guys have different levels of service.
I don't know if you want to get into that right now.
But obviously, guys, yes, Patriot Protect, you've heard the name before.
They sponsor the show, but they are my personal digital protection service.
After everything I had to go through with my family, that's who I chose to go with for myself, my business.
And I sleep a little easier at night now, knowing that these online criminals can't get after me and my family.
So I appreciate you guys not only for sponsoring the show, but providing that protection for me and my business and my family.
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Look, Owen, it's an honor.
It's an honor to protect our customers.
And I think for anybody that's been listening to this bit, we're sincere about what we do and we're very serious about this.
And we care very much about our customers.
And it breaks our heart every time somebody doesn't, you know, comes to us when it was too late.
You know, I see somebody in your chat that was talking about another opt-out service.
And I won't name names.
What makes us different, and we can't say this for any of the other companies, is that as far as we know, we're the only ones that are 100% USA based.
Everything that we touch, everything that we do with your data is done without human touch.
And unfortunately, a lot of these other companies, and I won't name names, they outsource a lot of the stuff offshore to God knows where that's touching your most, you know, your most sensitive information.
We're 100% USA based, and that can't be said for the other ones.
So, as far as our other, our packages go, and I encourage everybody to look on our website to take a look.
And again, this is not meant to be a commercial.
This is just, we don't want to see anybody get hurt as much as we are seeing other folks getting hurt when they don't take control of their data.
Take a look and see which package is right for you based on your threat level.
We have our family plan, which covers two people.
We very, very, very much recommend this.
And I'll say this too, Owen.
You know, we typically give a 15% discount if people use your promo code Owen at patriot-protect.com slash Owen.
For the next 72 hours, we're going to go ahead and make that 50%, 5-0.
If you buy our annual plan, it is half off.
We really hope you take advantage of this because it's the cheapest that it's going to be for the rest of the year.
And especially coming into tax season, the question you have is, you know, why leave yourself exposed?
There's just no reason to do it.
It's so cheap too, compared to actually getting honestly.
Well, and guys, if you want to stress test this for yourself before somebody else does it for you, as Skip was saying at the beginning here, go ahead and try.
Try to find your own private information.
Tell a friend of yours, hey, see if you can find my private information and they'll be able to get it back to you probably within five minutes or less.
That's how easy this stuff was.
And unfortunately, you just don't think about it and you don't want to learn about it the hard way.
So Skip from patriot-protect.com slash Owen.
Again, guys, listen, for the next 72 hours, if you're listening to this, for the next 72 hours, coupon code Owen gets you 50% off.
Normally 15% off now gets you 50% off an annual plan.
It's the cost of a night out.
It's the cost of a coffee per month, one of those fancy coffees that's no good for you per month right now with coupon code Owen.
So Skip, we do appreciate you guys sponsoring the show.
That does mean a lot to me and my audience.
But I also appreciate the service you guys are providing to me, my family, and my business so that I don't have to go through that hell again.
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Listen, it's only because we like you and your audience.
Aside from that, I got to get back to work.
We got to get making sure everybody's covered here.