Nov. 3, 2025 - Owen Shroyer Live
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| Good morning to our friends on the West Coast. | ||
| Good afternoon, I suppose, to our friends on the East Coast. | ||
| It is the first ever episode here of the Ask the Doctor show brought to you by the Wellness Center. | ||
| I'm very excited for this moving forward. | ||
| This is a show that I'm bringing back from the past. | ||
| I've been doing this for a long time. | ||
| It's very popular. | ||
| We talk about medical related news with some of the most trusted names in the field, some of the most trusted doctors out there who really, quite frankly, became the platinum standard when we went through the medical tyranny. | ||
| If we flashback to COVID, this is when these doctors really separated themselves and they've done something spectacular and they've decided to work with the wellness company to offer products to you, services to you that, let's say, the mainstream medical establishment either doesn't want you to know about or tries to keep you in the dark about. | ||
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| Our guest today is Dr. Kelly Victory, and we've got a very important show to really lay into what's going on with vaccines, autisms, and a report that just came out from Dr. Peter McCullough. | ||
| Now, just so you know, if you're not familiar with how Ask the Doctor goes, we're going to cover the medical news for the opening part of the show, and then we're going to open up the phone lines for you to call in with any medical questions that you might have for our great guest doctor today, Dr. Kelly Victory. | ||
| But let's get into the subject. | ||
| Now, Dr. Victory, I think that when it comes to autism, when it comes to the story of autism and how it became so prevalent, you know, the debate or the investigation started going into vaccines some time ago. | ||
| Now, obviously, there's a lot of money in this industry, and there's a lot of effort to keep any negative headlines about vaccines away from the American people, especially considering many of them feel forced to inject their children with a lot of these things. | ||
| But we are getting new information now. | ||
| We're kind of reevaluating this stuff now. | ||
| And Dr. Peter McCullough just came out with a very important report regarding vaccines and autism. | ||
| What can you tell us today? | ||
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Well, first, thanks very much for having me, Owen, and thanks for carving out time in your show, your inaugural show, to cover this extraordinarily important topic. | |
| To give your viewers some perspective, autism has gone from one in 10,000 children back in the early 80s to where we stand today at one in 31 children. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| This constitutes an overwhelming moral, medical, and public health imperative for us to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| And to those naysayers who say that simply that we've become better at diagnosing it, we've got better tests for it. | ||
| That's ridiculous, because if that were the case, I would ask you, where are all of the 50 and 60 year old autistic people? | ||
| And the answer is they don't exist. | ||
| There has been a tsunami of new cases and the trajectory of autism and autism spectrum disorder has just burgeoned incredibly over the past several decades to where we are today. | ||
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As I said, it's one in 31 children. | |
| In the state of California, it's one in 12 boys being born are diagnosed ultimately with autism. | ||
| I've got to pause you right there because that statistic is alarming in and of itself, but I think it also points to something. | ||
| Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, but to me, what that statistic points to, specifically dealing with boys, boys are born with a thinner blood-brain barrier than girls. | ||
| And so therefore, maybe some of these heavy metals or toxic chemicals are able to penetrate the male blood-brain barrier where it's a lot more difficult to penetrate the female blood-brain barrier. | ||
| Is this a real phenomenon that's happening? | ||
| Could that be why we see the increased numbers with boys instead of girls, or is there something else that explains that? | ||
| Well, I'd say at this point, we don't know exactly what it is. | ||
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Let's first talk about the association with what we believe now are the likely determinants of autism spectrum disorder and what was just released in this truly landmark study that Dr. Peter McCullough, my friend and colleague, just published. | |
| This really, the relationship or the root causes of autism has not been well studied to date. | ||
| You'd think that it would be given these increasing numbers and the fact that the CDC certainly is obligated to be looking into this. | ||
| The last big study was done back in 2004 by the Institute of Medicine, and they only looked really at the MMR vaccine, that specific combination to see if there was a relationship. | ||
| This study that was just published by Dr. McCullough and the McCullough Foundation looked at more than 300 peer-reviewed studies looking at autism. | ||
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And what they found ultimately, I'll cut to the chase, the ultimate conclusion, and then we'll get into the weeds on it, was that autism is clearly a multifactorial issue. | |
| There's not just one thing that causes it. | ||
| But when we looked at all of the potential determinants, it was overwhelming that there was one standout, one modifiable thing that could, that clearly is associated with causing autism, and that is childhood vaccines, early vaccines, the timing of vaccines, and combination of vaccines. | ||
| Of those more than 300 studies, Owen, 136 of them specifically looked at vaccines. | ||
| And of those 136 studies that looked at vaccines, 80% of them concluded that vaccines were a lead cause of autism. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| Then they looked at, in that 300 studies they reviewed, there were 12 studies that looked specifically compared totally unvaccinated populations, children who've never received a single vaccine, and compared it to children who've been vaccinated. | ||
| And what they found in every single study was overwhelming differences in disease, not only in autism, by the way, that the vaccinated children had far higher rates of autism, but also higher rates of asthma, allergy, psoriasis, eczema, ADHD, ear infections, on and on and on. | ||
| In other words, vaccinated children end up being far less healthy than children who are unvaccinated. | ||
| And that doesn't make me, by the way, an anti-vaxxer, you know, or anti-vaccine. | ||
| What that makes me is a reader of the science. | ||
| I am looking at the data and the data do not lie. | ||
| And unfortunately, I as a physician and Dr. McCullough, my colleagues, we all were fundamentally lied to during our training. | ||
| We were all led to believe, we were taught not only are vaccines the greatest thing that's ever come down the pike from public health, but we were led to believe we were taught that it was the polio vaccine that brought the polio epidemic to an end, that it was the measles vaccine that brought measles really to an end. | ||
| That simply is not the case. | ||
| Death and severe illness from polio had plummeted before the polio vaccine was ever rolled out to the public. | ||
| It was a result of better hygiene, improved sanitation, clean water, and better living conditions. | ||
| It really had nothing to do with the polio vaccine. | ||
| Well, see, this is where this is where I think it gets really interesting. | ||
| And I've got just kind of the straight medical stuff here that I want to get into, like Trump suggesting we break up the MMR vaccine, them kind of putting a lot of the blame on Tylenol with their most recent report coming out of this administration, talking about the unvaccinated population, some of these graphs where we're able to kind of line them up with vaccination rates and autism rates over time. | ||
| And it's like, hmm, maybe there's something there. | ||
| But see, this is the stuff that you're getting into now that I think is, it's really eye-opening. | ||
| And once you've kind of had this experience, and I think that maybe you, I don't want to, I don't want to put you and the rest of the doctors at the wellness company on the spot here, but I feel like we all kind of went through this process during COVID where it was like, wait a second, how much have we been lied to? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Maybe a lot of people had faith and trust in our medical institutions. | ||
| Maybe these people don't have that same faith and trust today. | ||
| And so you said something that was so imperative. | ||
| You said, we were lied to. | ||
| You're talking about you're going through your training, you're learning about these vaccines. | ||
| Do you feel like this is, do you feel like this is expansive? | ||
| Because to me, I look at, I'm just a consumer and I look at diet, right? | ||
| I look at things that they say about diet now. | ||
| And I take my health very, very seriously. | ||
| I try to have the best diet I possibly can. | ||
| But you realize now it's like a lot of the stuff that you were getting from the establishment, maybe not just with medical stuff, with diet stuff. | ||
| How much of it is now, how much of it is now like an impulse to assume that you're being lied to, right? | ||
| I mean, you hate to live in an, you hate to live in a world right that, especially in medicine, but it's like, how much do now we look at something and say, I'm just, I'm going to assume that the opposite is true. | ||
| After everything we went through with COVID, the protocols, the vaccines, the masks, it's like, are we entering this dangerous ground now where now we're people are kind of assuming that the opposite of what we're told by the medical establishment is true? | ||
| Well, it certainly is a wake-up. | ||
| For me, it was an existential crisis during COVID. | ||
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I smelled a rat and called it out from day one on the COVID con, you know, the issue of masking, the total fallacy, the made-up construct of social distancing, just absolute, you know, utter idiocy. | |
| I knew that it was a lab-created virus from the very beginning. | ||
| We knew that they were overstating the risks and on and on and on. | ||
| But prior to COVID, I was considered by many people to be a vaccine zealot. | ||
| I am on the record over and over again, having said things like, quote, there isn't a shred of evidence that vaccines are actually linked to autism. | ||
| I poo-pooed Andrew Wakefield's findings. | ||
| And I will tell you, it was during COVID and understanding the fraud of the COVID vaccines that made me go back and actually do a deep dive into the history of vaccines, what studies were actually done, or in this case, not done. | ||
| Not a single vaccine, it turns out on the childhood schedule, not a single one has ever been tested in a randomized double-blinded control study against a placebo. | ||
| Not one. | ||
| That is the gold standard. | ||
| So I had an eye opening and that, yes, you are spot on, Owen. | ||
| It doesn't end there. | ||
| It isn't just big pharma and the lies we've been told. | ||
| It's big ag, big food, the food pyramid. | ||
| What absolute utter, you know, insanity is that? | ||
| The idea that canola oil, it turns out, was an oil that was created initially to be used in automobiles. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It was an engine oil. | ||
| And once they were able to come up with synthetic oils, they said, gosh, what are we going to do now with all of this canola oil? | ||
| We've incentivized farmers to grow and produce canola oil. | ||
| What are we going to do with it? | ||
| Oh, I've got a great idea. | ||
| Let's tell people that it's healthier to eat that than butter, you know? | ||
| And so that gets foisted upon you. | ||
| And now we know that these seed oils are responsible for overwhelming ill health and health problems. | ||
| There's a reason why we find ourselves in the wealthiest country in the world, you know, that we should have the best healthcare, the greatest life expectancy, the least disease burden. | ||
| And instead, what we have is 80% of American adults have at least one chronic condition. | ||
| We have 40% of adolescents are pre-diabetic. | ||
| 40%. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We have obesity. | ||
| And there's two numbers. | ||
| I was going to say, you're getting into obesity now. | ||
| This was the one that shocked me. | ||
| Obesity. | ||
| And I mean, people will talk about how they can kind of maybe massage these statistics versus whatever they decide to measure, but it doesn't really make a difference to me. | ||
| When your numbers are coming in over 20% obesity rate, that's a low end, by the way. | ||
| Some of them have 40%. | ||
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Correct. | |
| I mean, we're talking about a health epidemic here. | ||
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Correct. | |
| And so it's not just, not only are these diseases disease prevalence unsustainable from an economic perspective, it will crush the system. | ||
| We can't afford it. | ||
| But we are relegating people, particularly children, to a miserable life. | ||
| You're talking about a life of medications and ill health and doctor's visits, hospitalizations, and likely premature death. | ||
| Their life expectancy will be less than ours is, yours and mine sitting here right now. | ||
| So this is something that we have got to crack. | ||
| And although I don't agree with everything that Robert Kennedy Jr. has done at HHS, I absolutely support and believe that he is fundamentally spot on on focusing on chronic disease. | ||
| Obviously, I have my interest in him focusing on vaccines and getting the mRNA shots off the market and stopping so that not one more person gets one of these toxic injections. | ||
| But we've also got to look at the bigger picture, which is everything else you are saying. | ||
| The food, you know, the food issues, big ag, big pharma. | ||
| And to get back to this issue about the lies, I will tell you that again, one of the things that I truly came face to face with during the COVID con was the fact that medical schools, medical journals, and all of the large scientific laboratories in this country are owned by the pharmaceutical industry. | ||
| There isn't the once-storied medical journals, JAMA, BMJ, you know, all of these, they are essentially marketing rags for big pharma. | ||
| There isn't. | ||
| Is it fair to say that about maybe mainstream news as well running all the pharmaceutical ads? | ||
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100%. | |
| 100%. | ||
| Roger Ailes, the former CEO of Fox News, so one of the relatively conservative news stations, had said years ago that he was interested in eliminating pharmaceutical advertising from Fox News, but he couldn't afford to do it because they represented more than 70% of Fox's advertising income. | ||
| So they are there over a barrel. | ||
| There's a reason why you never got the truth and will not get the truth on the mainstream media about anything related to pharmaceuticals. | ||
| Every single segment is brought to you by Merck, brought to you by Santa Fe, and then 75 different advertisements for drugs. | ||
| The United States is one of two countries on the planet, the other being New Zealand, that allows pharmaceutical advertising on television. | ||
| Every other country has figured out that if you allow advertising on television, you will end up with lack of integrity and corruption in your media because the media are over a barrel. | ||
| They cannot afford to get to lose those advertising dollars. | ||
| And therefore, they say what they are told to say and they don't report on things that they are told not to report on. | ||
| Well, and there's already kind of a precedent there with tobacco products. | ||
| And so it's not like it's uncharted waters to talk about removing certain advertising campaigns from television. | ||
| But do you suppose maybe RFK Jr. got some cold feet because maybe the networks picked up the phone and said, you know, hey, we don't really, we don't currently have it in our budget to survive if you cut these ads out. | ||
| So I don't know if that's something they need to work out long time and RFK needs to say, all right, you've got till this date. | ||
| You've got till maybe this year to figure out how you're going to fund yourselves without big pharmaceutical ads because that was something RFK Jr. was very gung-ho about. | ||
| But it seems the temperature has kind of cooled on that. | ||
| Well, he absolutely is interested in doing that in the same way that he and I had had a conversation about this issue of pharmaceutical investments in the medical schools and in the journals and those sorts of things. | ||
| And he had said this was when he was running for president. | ||
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He told me that if he were elected as president on day one, he would call the editors of the medical journals in and tell them they either disarticulate their relationship with big pharma or he was going to bring a RICO case against them. | |
| He was going to call it racketeering and bring a case against them. | ||
| He feels the same way I know about advertising, pharmaceutical advertising on television. | ||
| Unfortunately, things never work as quickly as we want them to in Washington. | ||
| And I, you know, although I am not in the room, I guarantee. | ||
| Not things that help us at least, Doctor. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| Yeah, I guarantee that he does not have carte blanche to do a lot of the things that he would otherwise do. | ||
| Because let's face it, look, there isn't a, I don't think there's a person in Congress who hasn't received dollars funding from the pharmaceutical lobby. | ||
| They are the biggest lobby in Washington. | ||
| People on both sides of the aisle have taken money from them. | ||
| And the pharmaceutical industry holds tremendous sway. | ||
| So it's not like you can just walk in and rip things off the market or change the standards. | ||
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So yeah, I think you'll probably have to give them sort of a long runway in terms of eliminating advertising on TV. | |
| But I'm certainly hopeful that that is still something that he's invested in doing. | ||
| Well, and you know, you kind of talked about how it's it's a double-edged sword here because you not only end up corrupting the integrity of these medical institutions, but you end up corrupting the integrity of your news as well, because now they're not going to be able to really tell the full story for obvious reasons should something go wrong with that. | ||
| And it's funny enough, it was in a comedy movie. | ||
| I don't know if you ever saw Anchorman 2, the follow-up to the original, but that was the plot. | ||
| That was kind of the, that was the issue in Anchorman 2 was they had the big news network, but the people that owned the news network owned all these other companies. | ||
| And so they couldn't do the news that they wanted to do because it would hurt the bottom line of the other companies. | ||
| And so I think it's a phenomenon that we're probably long overdue. | ||
| But, you know, I think that the craziest part of it, like you mentioned, you'd think with all this money, you'd think with the massive industry that it is, that at least, okay, we're going through this, but at least we'd have the healthiest people, right? | ||
| At least the American people would be the healthiest. | ||
| But as you just laid out, you could make the case that for the developed world, the American people are actually the most sick and diseased. | ||
| Oh, there's no question. | ||
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And as I said, if you look at what happens, the interplay, the relationships between big ag, big food, and big pharma with everything, you know, how things get funded, what gets into the school lunch program, for example. | |
| You may be too young to remember when ketchup was added as a vegetable, constituted a vegetable in the public school lunch program. | ||
| High fructose corn syrup in there? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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So, you know, red dye, you know, red dye, high fructose corn syrup, and not a shred of nutrition in it constituted a vet serving of vegetables in the school lunch program. | |
| It is really insanity. | ||
| The percentage of the American population that eats highly processed food every single day is alarming. | ||
| And the fact that, you know, we are right now to bring in tie in what's timely at the moment, this issue about EBT and SNAP, you know, the foods that we have allowed people to buy on food subsidies really is shameful. | ||
| I made the comment probably 25 years ago in a meeting at the Harvard School of Public Health, and I was met with gasps across the audience. | ||
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But I said, the United States is the only country whose poor people are fat. | |
| And that is a harsh reality. | ||
| In other countries, if you are poor, you tend to be thin, sometimes very, very thin. | ||
| And you know what else about that? | ||
| I looked at a study that was done on the homeless. | ||
| This is a wild one because it's one of those paradoxes that we have in American health. | ||
| You have poor people that are fat, which tells you, okay, well, what's really going on here? | ||
| Either they're not poor or the food that they're eating is extremely unhealthy. | ||
| There was also a test that was done on homeless men, and it actually came back that homeless men, at least on the raw measurables, were more healthy than your average man, that because they had higher testosterone levels, they had better cholesterol levels, like all of this stuff. | ||
| And it's just like, how is this? | ||
| The whole thing is such a paradox. | ||
| And I think it comes down, it comes back to the same issue here. | ||
| It's the medical industries have been corrupted by money. | ||
| The media has been corrupted by the medical industries that have been corrupted by money. | ||
| And then you get into the hospital and it's kind of the same process there as well. | ||
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Right. | |
| No, it's true. | ||
| We really, we have, you know, we do not have a healthcare system in the United States. | ||
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What we have is a disease care system, and we're very good at it. | |
| We're very good at, you know, we treat diseases. | ||
| We allow people to become ill. | ||
| And then a lot of people make a lot of money trying to make them well again. | ||
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So the analogy would be, you know, what we have in the United States is a bunch of highly sophisticated hospitals and interventions and ambulances lined up at the bottom of the cliff, waiting for people to fall off, which they will inevitably do. | |
| If we instead invested our money in putting a fence at the top of the cliff, it's less sexy. | ||
| You know, you just put the fence up and people don't fall off the cliff then. | ||
| And so a lot of people who are at the bottom waiting with their, you know, their stretchers and their hospital bags are going to lose money. | ||
| And so they have a vested interest in that not happening. | ||
| But the reality is what public health should be doing is building the fence at the top of the cliff, not lining up expensive interventions at the bottom after people topple. | ||
| So, you know, we have got to change our entire structure, our entire construct and get back to a healthcare where we are looking at the determinants of good health. | ||
| We are making sure that people get back to the basics rather than constantly rolling out a newfangled medication that you can't pronounce with some stupid name and a bunch of people dancing in the street to promote it. | ||
| What we need is the basics, you know, whole foods, good nutrition, adequate sleep, regular exercise, stress mitigation. | ||
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The idea that they took physical education, PE, or what we call gym class, when I was in school, in elementary school, we had gym class four days a week, four days a week, and you had 45 minutes of gym, plus you had recess in the middle of the day where you were out on the playground. | |
| No, there's no gym class. | ||
| Gym class went away a long time ago. | ||
| You're kidding me. | ||
| They got rid of gym class. | ||
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How did they get rid of gym class and the kids spend all their time at recess playing on their iPad or their phone, doing, you know, they are so sedentary. | |
| You know, nobody allows their kids to walk to school anymore or, you know, ride their bike to school. | ||
| Everybody gets driven or takes a bus. | ||
| So we have essentially eliminated daily activity from the lives of millions and millions of Americans, particularly children. | ||
| I mean, this is what we've got to return to if we want to hope it is not going to be a drug fix. | ||
| And as much as I want to fix the vaccine issue, and that's where we started with this, I think the relationship between vaccines and ill health is irrefutable. | ||
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Again, when I was growing up, depending on what state you lived in, from birth to age 18, you got somewhere between six and eight total vaccines between birth and 18. | |
| That number is now 84 between birth and age 18. | ||
| 84 vaccines. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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That is absolutely, I'm here to tell you as a doctor, the human immune system was never intended to be flogged over and over and over again with an immune challenge, | |
| let alone the fact that all of these vaccines contain adjuvants, additional ingredients, including heavy metals and all sorts of other things that add up over time so that children are getting mercury and aluminum and all of these other things. | ||
| Again, I started from the beginning saying autism is multifactorial. | ||
| Not just one thing, but it may be the combination of that plus the tylenol that the child gets when he or she develops a fever after getting the vaccine. | ||
| Or it may be other environmental exposures that happen at the same time. | ||
| Maybe it's the fluoride in the water at the same time that the child's getting six or eight vaccines on one well child visit. | ||
| Uh we, we don't know all of the things. | ||
| But without question, this recent study by Dr. McCullough showed that the single thing that stood out that was modifiable was the number, the combination, and the timing of childhood vaccines. | ||
| Well, and I want to get back into the vaccines here in a minute. | ||
| And it's funny, whenever you hear these health professionals that are able to get in front of mainstream news or get in front of these government podiums, at least maybe before RFK Jr., they'd rattle off all of their different medical advice, probably bought and paid for. | ||
| And then if they have time at the end of it, they might remind you having a good diet and exercising isn't important. | ||
| They might just shove it into the name. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And maybe eat healthy and exercise or something. | ||
| Oh, yeah, maybe as if that's not the most important thing. | ||
| But when you talk about how they, folks, when you talk about how they try to corrupt what you get access to or what you get informed about, ivermectin was the perfect example. | ||
| They tried to silence it, but the truth about ivermectin is out. | ||
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| It must be good if the establishment tried to hide it from us, Dr. Kelly. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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And I have to say, ivermectin is really a wonder drug, Owen. | |
| It was FDA approved for use in humans back in the 1980s. | ||
| It was initially formulated to treat parasites. | ||
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It's an anti-parasitic for not only intestinal worms, but also the parasite that causes river blindness. | |
| It is taken by hundreds of millions of people around the globe every single day. | ||
| It's a drug that's over the counter in almost every country other than the United States and Canada because it is so safe. | ||
| As you point out, we've known for some decades now that ivermectin has other application than parasites. | ||
| It's a very strong antiviral, and that's why we believed that it was likely to work and did work miraculously on COVID. | ||
| It has very strong anti-inflammatory properties, which was helpful during COVID, but also, as you mentioned, helpful for things like arthritis. | ||
| One of the things I think is most interesting is the efficacy of ivermectin against multiple cancers as well. | ||
| We are doing more and more studies, but it's been used heavily in the veterinary world for treatment of cancers, again, for decades. | ||
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And there are many people who are seeing incredible results with treating, as I said, many, many different types of cancer with ivermectin. | |
| It's just such a safe drug. | ||
| In combination with Mebendazole, which is another anti-parasitic, it really can be used again to treat quite a number of things, obviously parasites, but we are seeing great application for it. | ||
| And again, more research is needed, but we are seeing great application for it in treatment of other things, including inflammatory diseases and cancers. | ||
| Yeah, and I don't want to open up the bag of cancer because I think that's maybe a whole subject for a whole day. | ||
| But I do think that it's odd when you hear these things like, hey, this is a potential, let's say a potential solution to a cancer, but it's not going to make anybody a bunch of money. | ||
| And so you almost don't even want to say that this is the world that we're in because it's so dark. | ||
| You'd think that, you know, when we're talking about health and we're talking about people's lives, that we expect a higher level of integrity, right? | ||
| I mean, nothing is beyond corruption, but we'd expect as an advanced civilization that, hey, let's at least, you know, let's keep some of the dirty stuff away from people's health. | ||
| We're talking about life and death here. | ||
| And it turns out, no, it turns out that some people in the medical field, they don't maintain that level of integrity. | ||
| And it seems to even reach the most highest levels. | ||
| And I think that that's what we saw in 2020 with COVID. | ||
| And that's why so many people now are looking at ivermectin or they're looking at the wellness center. | ||
| They're looking for alternative options to where the establishment has either blatantly lied to them or just let them down, left them hanging. | ||
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Well, absolutely. | |
| And the reality, Owen, is that ivermectin is very inexpensive. | ||
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It's very well tolerated. | |
| It's got a great safety profile, but it's not making anyone a ton of money. | ||
| In comparison, contradistinction to Paxlavid and Remdesivir, two drugs that the pharmaceutical industry tried, you know, they rolled up and tried to foist on everyone during COVID. | ||
| While they were not allowing people to get access to the inexpensive, safe, well-tolerated drug ivermectin, which is actually effective, they were pushing Paxlavin and Remdesivir, both of which have multiple and many really, really horrific side effects. | ||
| Remdesivir, we named Run Death is Near because it was so highly associated with ending up facilitating and really hastening people's death during COVID. | ||
| It was a disaster. | ||
| And it's likewise when we talk about the use of things like ivermectin potentially for cancer. | ||
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Again, the traditional cancer treatments, chemotherapy, may work to kill cancer cells, but they also kill a lot of other good things in the process, including your immune system. | |
| I'm not telling people that no one should do chemotherapy, but you need to go into it understanding that it is not discriminatory in terms of what cells it wipes out, where ivermectin and other medications, other supplements that are well known to impact cancer while enhancing, improving your immune system. | ||
| The wellness company is about to launch a brand new product for immune health that includes a number of different things like ashwagandha and berberine and olive leaf and oregano oil and things, all of which have impact against cancer, interestingly, but help your immune system. | ||
| It doesn't hurt it the way that chemotherapy does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this is another important part. | ||
| And that's why when, you know, I don't, you probably aren't aware. | ||
| I've been doing Ask the Doctor. | ||
| I've been doing the show. | ||
| I actually kind of, I actually kind of stole it from somebody I used to work for who used to do this with a professional. | ||
| He was a professional hockey and baseball doctor in St. Louis. | ||
| I was producing radio in St. Louis and that doctor would go on there and do something similar to this. | ||
| I then brought it into what I was doing when I was working at Infowars. | ||
| And now that I'm independent, I was able to make this connection and this relationship with the wellness company to turn it into its own show. | ||
| And so it's very important. | ||
| You know, health has always been very important to me. | ||
| And I'm kind of somebody that says, be the science. | ||
| You know, that's kind of my first instinct is just to be the science. | ||
| And so when people talk about, oh, is this good or is this bad? | ||
| I say, look, here's my experience. | ||
| Here's my experience. | ||
| Or you can talk to somebody. | ||
| What was your experience like with ivermectin or what was your experience like with this? | ||
| Or what was your experience like with not doing this? | ||
| You know, I'm somebody that has never gotten a vaccine and I'm doing okay. | ||
| I actually am probably the healthiest amongst my friends. | ||
| I'm probably the person that gets sick the least. | ||
| You'd think that'd be counterintuitive since I'm not taking any injections to not get sick. | ||
| And yet, and yet here I am. | ||
| So that's what I think, you know, that's what we want to do with this show. | ||
| We want to make sure that you're getting all the possible information to make the best health decision for yourself. | ||
| We're bringing on the doctors that, in my opinion, really separated themselves from the corrupt establishment during COVID. | ||
| And we're giving you an opportunity to be directly connected with them. | ||
| And so that's why we're going to open up the phone lines. | ||
| Now, if you do want to learn more about ivermectin or get the products, go to twc.health slash owen. | ||
| That's twc.health slash owen. | ||
| And you can use coupon code owen at checkout for an extra 10% off. | ||
| That's coupon code owen at checkout for an extra 10% off. | ||
| And I know we'll be talking about that new product you guys have coming up in the near future as well. | ||
| A lot of exciting stuff that you guys are offering over at the wellness center. | ||
| I do want to open up phone lines now. | ||
| Ask the doctor phone line. | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| I think I'm going to have to change it because your name is blocking the full number here. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| That's on me. | ||
| Let me see if there's another workaround for that. | ||
| I'll give out the number by word here. | ||
| 7400-200-5560, 7-400-200-5560. | ||
| And we'll get you connected with Dr. Kelly Victory once I can. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| That looks a little better. | ||
| We got the full number out there now, too. | ||
| Now, before we take our first call here, folks, what do you make of President Trump saying that we break up the MMR vaccine into three different shots? | ||
| What are your thoughts on that? | ||
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Well, again, I think it's an absolute imperative based, you know, obviously on this most recent study, Determinants of Autism, because Dr. McCullough, in reviewing all of these 300-plus studies, found that it is the combination vaccines are very problematic. | |
| But we also know that other countries have done this. | ||
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In Japan did this back, I think in 1983, they broke up MMR. | |
| They still allow you to get measles, mumps, and rubella, but they disarticulated it as a combined injection and they found, wait for it, plummeting rates of autism and plummeting rates of ill effect when they did that. | ||
| So I think there's no question that we have got to spread them out. | ||
| President Trump's been talking about this for a while. | ||
| if you are going to vaccinate, and I recommend that parents wait as long as possible to vaccinate. | ||
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The idea of giving newborn babies the hepatitis B shot on day one of life, absolutely insane. | |
| There's not a reason on this planet that a newborn baby needs a hepatitis B vaccine. | ||
| That's a sexually transmitted and IV needle transmitted illness. | ||
| You can easily test mom. | ||
| No reason whatsoever for a baby to get that. | ||
| We should spread them out. | ||
| In fact, there's an entire policy paper called safer to wait, meaning if you can wait until a child is maybe two years old, three years old to start vaccinating, that's even better. | ||
| But disarticulating these combination vaccines like MMR, very, very important. | ||
| And it scares me to death, Owen, when I hear them talking about, you hear the pharmaceutical industry saying, yeah, we're working on a combination influenza, COVID, RSV shot. | ||
| I'm like, no, thank you. | ||
| I mean, I don't take any of them anyway, but I sure as heck wouldn't be thinking that we're better off combining them. | ||
| Do you end up having to only get one shot versus three if you were inclined to take them? | ||
| Sure, but it's not worth the risk. | ||
| Combining vaccines is not a good plan. | ||
| And like you, I have never received a single COVID shot, but I've also, I've been a physician for 35 years. | ||
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I've never had a flu shot in my life. | |
| Okay. | ||
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Again, this is a big con that's been sold to people. | |
| We now have study after study, including one with more than 50,000 patients from the Cleveland Clinic that shows not only does the influenza shot not likely prevent you from getting influenza, there's not a single shred of evidence that shows that it keeps you out of the hospital or decreases your risk of dying. | ||
| And in fact, it increases your risk of contracting pretty much every other upper respiratory virus. | ||
| All right, I want to take the first call here, but I do want to expand on what you just said, because when you find out the truth about the flu vaccine, folks, you'll never take it again. | ||
| I'll just leave it at that. | ||
| You'll never take it again. | ||
| I do want to take our first caller of the day here. | ||
| You aren't on air with Dr. Kelly Victory. | ||
| your question today? | ||
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Friends who are not well, what are the options for people who have taken the vaccine? | |
| Hi, I just heard just the tail end of it. | ||
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What are the options for people who've taken the vaccine? | |
| I assume you mean the COVID vaccine. | ||
| Yeah, I think that the best thing that people can do is try to detoxify from the spike proteins that people who are vaccinated continue to produce. | ||
| We know that that spike protein is the toxic component of the virus. | ||
| And unfortunately, people who are vaccinated have given every cell in their body the blueprint or the instruction manual to continue to crank those spike proteins out in perpetuity. | ||
| The wellness company has a product that I very, very strongly suggest called Ultimate Spike Detox. | ||
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It combines three specific things. | |
| Natokinase, which is derived from the fermentation of soybeans. | ||
| It's an enzyme that helps to break down that spike protein. | ||
| It also includes cucurmin, which is a very strong anti-inflammatory. | ||
| And it includes bromelin, which again is an enzyme, helps to break down that spike protein. | ||
| you will not see immediate, immediate results or immediate indication of antibody levels to the spike protein falling. | ||
| You can get your actual antibody levels checked, by the way. | ||
| If you've been vaccinated, there is a commercially available, readily available blood test. | ||
| You don't need to see a doctor to get it. | ||
| You can go on the LabCorp website and order it yourself. | ||
| I think it's $69. | ||
| take that into any lab core lab and actually get a baseline level to know what are your antibody levels to the spike protein. | ||
| And then that's something that you can follow over time as you take some of these detoxification things like the ultimate spike detox. | ||
| How long did it take to determine that this was going to be the solution to what they were injecting in us? | ||
| Well, I'll tell you, it's taken quite a while. | ||
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And frankly, we need to do more work on it. | |
| Owen, the brass ring from my perspective is if we can figure out how to turn it off, how to turn off the mRNA. | ||
| The idea that they created a vaccine and injected it to people with no offswitch, no way of stopping it. | ||
| We know that people who got vaccinated are continuing to crank out spike proteins years after they got injected. | ||
| So you have this ongoing immune response. | ||
| And it's why people, many people are having problems. | ||
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I suppose the only good news in all of it is that the vaccines were so poorly made that only about 20% of all the batches seemed to be associated with ill effects. | |
| In other words, the other 80% of people got what was likely duds. | ||
| And part of the problem was, as you'll recall, in the heat of the pandemic, a lot of people were getting their vaccines, you know, in the parking lot at the local Costco or, you know, they were running these vaccine programs. | ||
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And the vaccines came in a multi, you know, dose vial. | |
| So there are 10 doses per vial. | ||
| And the people drawing it up sometimes were doing it improperly. | ||
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So the first nine people essentially got just the liquid at the top and the 10th guy got all of the mRNA that was sitting at the bottom of the vial. | |
| So it's really scary how this happened. | ||
| It was so bad, the discrepancies amongst batches was so bad that there's an entire website called How Bad Is My Batch, howbadismybatch.com, where you can go and enter which shots you got, J and J, Pfizer, Moderna, and the lot number and see how many adverse events have been associated with your lot. | ||
| So I guess, as I said, the good news is not everyone who got vaccinated got enough of the mRNA or enough of the bad stuff, that they're likely to have a bad side effect. | ||
| Unfortunately, the people who've had ill effects uh, some of them have had horrific effects. | ||
| Obviously we know that the deaths are in the millions from the vaccines uh, and there are many, many people living today with profound vaccine injury. | ||
| So if you are concerned folks, that's the ultimate spike, detox Twc.health and then go to the products page and uh, you can find that there. | ||
| I know a lot of people are concerned about that. | ||
| It is wild what you just mentioned there, because it's like you don't know. | ||
| It's like how do I know if I got a, a bad batch versus what some people think? | ||
| Maybe they just got saline, but you're thinking that maybe it was just a matter of. | ||
| I guess it's like if you get some juice, some of the stuff settles at the bottom versus the stuff that gets to the top, and you don't know whether you're drinking the top or the bottom, and that can change what happens with the shot exactly. | ||
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And so you know there's the. | |
| The quality control on these shots was was minimal, if at all. | ||
| You know, if you're a company making skittles, you pull, you know, every thousandth bag to make sure that there's an equal number of red skittles and green skittles and yellow skittles in the bag, that it's well mixed, and if it's not, if you find a disproportionate number, then you shut your machine down and you figure out what's going on. | ||
| They didn't do that with these vaccines, so the quality control very poor. | ||
| On top of it, as I said, you had people giving the shots in this mass vaccination program that weren't well trained. | ||
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And when you have a multi-use vial 10 doses per vial unless you are darn sure that you have mixed it up and keep it mixed up what you know, then not everyone's going to get then all 10 shots that are drawn out of that vial are not going to be the same, and I think that that probably uh accounts for some of it. | |
| Also, you know some people got it, you know, in a in the wrong place. | ||
| It's supposed to be in your deltoid muscle, depending on how much fat you have, how much muscle mass you have. | ||
| I mean there are a lot of variables here. | ||
| So not everybody who got vaccinated is going to have an ill effect. | ||
| Not everybody who got vaccinated got enough to actually create even meaningful antibodies. | ||
| My suggestion, if you have concerns, would be to start with checking your antibody level, because that is a good reflection of the level of spike proteins that you're still making. | ||
| If you aren't still making spike proteins and don't have spike proteins in your body uh, you know running around, then you would have no reason to keep creating antibodies. | ||
| So your antibody levels should be relatively low. | ||
| If they're sky high, then you're somebody who may be at risk for developing any number of things, including blood clots myocarditis um, those sorts of things, and that's what we saw the most of all. | ||
| Right, let's take another caller. | ||
| Uh, you are on the air with dr Kellery Victory. | ||
| What is your name? | ||
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Hi, it's Stacy and I live in South Carolina from New York. | |
| I called a couple weeks ago. | ||
| Your show is excellent. | ||
| Thank you so much for doing it. | ||
| Um, and the doctor I. | ||
| I have a quick question. | ||
| I've been holistic pretty much all my life, thankfully from a very before-time mother and physician father. | ||
| But I was wondering, I refuse to take the vaccine as well. | ||
| I just thought it was really odd. | ||
| And I just take all these things preventatively, like turmeric. | ||
| I eat garlic and, you know, I take kombucha. | ||
| But I feel like I take so much just to prevent anything from, you know, COVID, et cetera, because I am around a lot of people. | ||
| I teach, I'm a private Pilates instructor and I'm around people all the time. | ||
| And I just want to be as safe for them and myself. | ||
| So what would you recommend from TWC Health to take as an overall preventative rather than one of the five things I take, for example? | ||
| Well, I'm with you, sister. | ||
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I take a pile of supplements morning and night for the same reason. | |
| And the wellness company has a number of great products for overall immune support. | ||
| The one that we are rolling out in just a few days called SHIELD, I'm super excited about. | ||
| It's actually a two-part thing. | ||
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It includes some gel caps that has the berberine and olive leaf, oregano oil, turmeric, all of these great things to support immune health. | |
| And then it also has a hot chocolate that includes a great mushroom blend of reishi and shaga and lion's mane mushrooms. | ||
| Again, I'm a big fan of mushrooms for overall immune health. | ||
| Make sure that your vitamin D levels are adequate. | ||
| One of the simplest things that people can do to improve their overall immune health, decrease your risk of contracting essentially any kind of infectious problem, and also decrease your risk of cancer is to make sure that you have adequate vitamin D levels. | ||
| The levels that we were told were adequate in the past are way too low. | ||
| I tell people to aim to have vitamin D levels between 80 and 100 nanograms per milliliter. | ||
| If you don't know what your vitamin D level is, you should get it checked at your doctor. | ||
| Most Americans are vitamin D deficient. | ||
| About 30% of Caucasians are, 50% of Latinos are, and about 80% of African Americans are vitamin D deficient. | ||
| So whatever else you're doing for your immune support, make sure that you're supplementing vitamin D because you likely need it. | ||
| How much of that is because they've made people scared of the sun? | ||
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Well, it's a good question. | |
| Probably a fair amount. | ||
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You're hard pressed if you're a woman, Owen, to find any cosmetic, any lotion that doesn't include SPF, you know, something. | |
| They automatically include, you know, sunscreen. | ||
| That was a branding technique. | ||
| I mean, that was a sales technique. | ||
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100%. | |
| 100%. | ||
| And people just are not outside as much as they had been in the past. | ||
| There is concern. | ||
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You know, people have been concerned about developing skin cancers. | |
| And you simply cannot get enough vitamin D in food sources, even in fortified cereals, things like that, with vitamin D. You simply can't get enough to get your levels high enough. | ||
| So I really, it's the simplest thing to do is just supplement it. | ||
| If you don't know where you are, it's helpful to get a blood test to know where you are, because then there are algorithms that actually will tell you, well, if your level is currently 30, here's what you need to do to get it up to that 80 to 100 level, and then what you need to do to maintain. | ||
| So, but I believe that this recent caller, I happen to agree with her. | ||
| I didn't take as much as a multivitamin 10 years ago. | ||
| I really believe that just eating a healthy diet was enough. | ||
| I don't believe that now. | ||
| There's so many environmental stressors out there, so much toxicity in the environment that I think you really need to be proactive here and supplement with a lot of these things. | ||
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As I said, I rattled off the name of a few that I'm really keen on. | |
| Another one of the products that the wellness company has that I love are our broccoli sprouts. | ||
| Broccoli sprouts are a huge source of sulforaphane, which is a profound anti-cancer agent. | ||
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It's great for overall immune health. | |
| And you simply, again, can't eat enough broccoli sprouts on a daily basis that you'd be able to get what you need. | ||
| So I take it in a capsule form. | ||
| I love this product and I take it every day. | ||
| My tortoise would agree with you. | ||
| He also likes broccoli sprouts. | ||
| He might disagree where he says, I don't know. | ||
| He does stop eating after like a thousand. | ||
| He'll usually stop eating the broccoli sprouts. | ||
| We get him at a local farmer's market. | ||
| You know, on that, on that vitamin D issue, just to expand on that, this was my, again, I like to kind of go with let your body be the science. | ||
| And it can be different for each individual, obviously. | ||
| So nothing is nothing is universal. | ||
| But from my experience, I used to usually get maybe one or two or three really bad sunburns a year. | ||
| Now, I cut out, it's probably about five or so, maybe before the pandemic. | ||
| I don't recall, but let's say five years ago, I quit using, I quit using sunscreen and I cut out as best as I could. | ||
| It's nearly impossible, but I cut out all seed oils. | ||
| So I basically consciously cut out seed oils from my life as much as humanly possible, right? | ||
| I mean, you go out to eat, you don't want to be that guy. | ||
| And then I don't use sunscreen anymore. | ||
| This is the first summer where I don't think I got a burn once, Dr. Victory. | ||
| Not once. | ||
| Usually I might get one or two, just, you know, first time in the sun. | ||
| I'm in Texas. | ||
| First time or two in the sun, you get a little burn. | ||
| But I mean, it used to be once or twice a summer. | ||
| I mean, it was really nasty. | ||
| I mean, I'm peeling like a snake. | ||
| I'm peeling like a lizard here. | ||
| Zero, not a this year. | ||
| And I can still get a nice little tan. | ||
| I can still go run around outside. | ||
| I went to the beach, South Padre, spent a couple of days out in the beach, never put sunscreen on once, never had a flake of skin like I used to. | ||
| What's up with that? | ||
| Is it really that much of a difference? | ||
| Is the sunscreen having the reverse effect? | ||
| Do you just have to really be conscious about managing your sun intake? | ||
| Or what do you think's up with that? | ||
| Well, I've got to say, there's an awful lot of data now linking sunscreen to some bad things. | ||
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If you read the ingredient list, I'm not sure you would want to be slathering yourself or your baby with any of it. | |
| I don't use sunscreen myself. | ||
| When I was growing up, we did, you know, back in the copper tone days and people believed that you should use it. | ||
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I think that they were less toxic back in the 1960s and 70s than they are today with the stuff that's in it. | |
| And I think a healthy amount of sun is actually good for you. | ||
| I do think it helps. | ||
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It certainly helps with your vitamin D levels, but I think it helps with your overall immune system. | |
| Whether there's a relationship with seed oils is an interesting question, and I can't speak authoritatively on that. | ||
| I certainly know, we know that seed oils are associated with an awful lot of what's going on with our chronic disease processes, metabolic syndrome, insulin resistance and insulin dysfunction. | ||
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There's getting rid of seed oils, I think, is super important. | |
| I have been a law, like you, I have essentially used only butter and olive oil for years. | ||
| And, you know, now when I would use butter, people would say, I can't believe you're a doctor and you use butter. | ||
| Like, trust me, the science on butter is great and it'll eventually hopefully come, you know, come to the public. | ||
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And that's what we're seeing. | |
| I think now the data are pretty overwhelming that we should, the idea that we all ever went to things like, you know, Crisco, you know, the shortenings that we use, you know, margarine, the totally unhealthy fats. | ||
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And, you know, we are now seeing the results of that, you know, misendeavor, that misadventure, and the fact that the food pyramid was so far off, really driven by the interests of big ag, big food, and big pharma. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, and speaking of big ag, I guess it's not so big ag, but I don't know, the family beef box at the wellness center. | ||
| I didn't know you guys were, I didn't know you guys were slanging meats too. | ||
| I got to get myself a family beef box here. | ||
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Yes, we launched Wellness Farms earlier this year. | |
| It's been a huge success. | ||
| We really felt that this was an ancillary product that would be so important to people who are very, very interested in their overall health and wellness. | ||
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The idea that you work so hard to work out, to, you know, to take supplements, and then you go and are buying a piece of meat and you have no idea what's in it. | |
| It's interesting that they are not obligated to put on beef or poultry or fish where it actually comes from. | ||
| If the final packaging on a steak is done in the United States, meaning it could have been farmed in Brazil, slaughtered in Brazil, the whole lifetime in Brazil comes up here, but when it gets put in the styrofoam package and the plastic goes on, if that happens in the United States, they can label it as U.S. beef. | ||
| It's dishonest. | ||
| It's totally fraudulent. | ||
| And you don't know what's in it. | ||
| We don't know what element, how much hormone has been given to that animal, what kind of antibiotics, what kind of vaccinations the animal got during how it was raised, what it was fed. | ||
| So Wellness Farms is 100% born, raised, fed, slaughtered, and packaged in the United States. | ||
| No hormones, no antibiotics, no vaccines, grass-fed and finished. | ||
| So that, which changes the level of omega-3 to be higher in this meat than in others. | ||
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So it's very, very, it's really worth, I believe, investing in and certainly trying it. | |
| We're hoping to get into poultry and fish as well. | ||
| But we launched it initially with a number of different beef boxes. | ||
| Well, I'll certainly be trying it. | ||
| And folks, remember, you can go to twc.health slash owen and use coupon code Owen for 10% off your purchases at the wellness center. | ||
| Dr. Kelly Victory, appreciate your time today for being on the opening show. | ||
| If you didn't get in on the lines today, remember to try next week when we will be joined by another special guest doctor. | ||
| So if you didn't get in today, just give it a week and we can try to get you up and on the air with our great doctors. | ||
| Dr. Kelly Victory, thank you for our time today. | ||
| Thanks everybody for tuning in. | ||
| And remember to shop at the Wellness Center. | ||
| Any of the products we discussed, you can find them there, twc.health slash owen. |
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