Owen Report - 10-29-2025 - President Trump Calls Jack Smith A Criminal Who Belongs In Prison
|
Time
Text
and gentlemen, it is Wednesday, October 29th, 2025, and here's what's coming up on the Owen Report today.
I think it's starting the transmission today off by saying this.
Because I think it is the big news to understand this.
No matter where I go, no matter who I talk to, they all think like we think.
They all see the same issues that we see.
And they're more akin now to recognizing propaganda as soon as they see it and rejecting it.
Now, there's still a lot of political pressure on some of these hot issues.
And there's still a lot of uncertainty as far as if people are willing to commit to a certain viewpoint or policy stance, but things are moving in our favor.
Make no mistake about it.
All right.
But that's not the news.
Here's what's coming up in the news.
All right, we do have a government shutdown update.
Speaker Johnson, again, addressing the media at the Capitol today.
I feel like it gets more pathetic every time he speaks on this.
And then the Republicans just still fail to see the vision.
They just still fail to see the vision.
And it's ironic today, as I'm going through all the different commentary on the shutdown.
Supposed liberals, supposed anti-establishment liberals are also calling for a permanent government shutdown, including one name who gets attacked from the right wing all the time, Dave Smith.
And I'm sitting here and I'm saying, anti-establishment liberals are now more conservative than right-wing conservatives.
Isn't that strange?
So we'll be looking at that.
And then some back and forth between Marjorie Taylor Greene and Speaker Johnson today.
Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota, he's weighing in on the shutdown.
And then you have the continuation of information from Jack Smith's political persecution of President Trump and his supporters.
The list of Republicans grows.
Now it's actually, it's going to be probably over 500.
This morning they had it over 150.
There are meetings happening in Washington, D.C. today.
They're actually ongoing right now.
And new information is leaking out that there could be up to 500 names of just Republicans on Jack Smith's list.
So that original list where they were spying on the eight Republicans that caused all the all the fuss, well, that number is about to increase to about 500.
I anticipate the headlines will drop on that before the end of the show if they're not already getting out.
And then President Trump says Jack Smith is a criminal that belongs in prison.
More of that, please.
More of that.
I'll take a double helping of that, and then I'll come back for seconds.
That's what we voted for.
Arresting the deep state criminals.
That's what we want.
We've got some stories dealing with ICE and some arrests that they've recently made.
They're causing a little bit of a controversy.
Go voter fraud is being discovered in swing states.
Now Ohio discovers thousands of non-citizens registered to vote.
The Fed cuts interest rates today.
It's good news, but it's not near where it needs to be.
And then we've got Cash Battell making headlines today, shutting down any foreign intelligence probe into the Charlie Kirk assassination, specifically shutting down Joe Kent's effort, where there seems to be a bashing of heads or egos between Cash Patel and Joe Kent.
Now, Gabbard fully supports Kent, but apparently whatever Kent was doing, Cash Patel wanted to shut it down and did.
And then why is Bill Gates in the news today?
Why is Bill Gates in the news?
This news update was brought to you by Owenshroyer.store, the official site for Owen Report merchandise.
On the cutting edge of news and analysis, the Owen Report with Owen Schroyer.
Let's monologue a little bit.
Let's monologue a little bit to open the show.
Let's wax political poetry, if you would allow me to start the show today.
Because you need to hear this.
You're not hearing enough of this.
And I know there are a lot of people on the conservative side of the American political aisle, a lot of people that would probably consider themselves right-wing.
We're talking about people that supported Trump in 2015 and 2016.
We're talking about what I like to refer to as your average American, meaning they're not embedded in the news like you or I might be.
They're not as invested in the day-to-day politically as you or I might be, but they want to be generally informed when they go to vote and they have their own ideologies and principles that they apply to their politics.
But I refer to them as the average American, and I believe that there are very few people left in the political media.
At least there's a small amount of people left in the political media that have any connection to the average American.
And the reason why I say that is if they did, they would probably be changing their commentary on some of the issues.
Now, that's not to say that you don't move in accordance to the masses.
It's more just to say that some of the things that they decide to talk about and the angles that they take, if they understood where the average American stood on these things, they probably would change tact.
Now, I could point to a bunch of different things, and it's all in the news today, but it goes like this: whenever I go out just doing normal American activities, go out to a restaurant, to breakfast, to dinner, to the gym, to a sporting event, to a concert, hang out with friends, a party, whatever.
And people want to talk politics.
And it's like without fail, 90%, and we're talking about all different backgrounds of average American.
We're talking about people that are extremely successful in their fields.
And we're talking about young people that are still figuring it out.
I mean, the whole spectrum.
And they're all looking for the same answers, which is what has happened to MAGA?
What has happened?
They can't make sense of it.
They can't understand it.
They're not following the political day-to-day, but they're also not seeing any of the stuff that they thought would happen once Trump got in for his second term.
They're just not seeing it.
So they're kind of shrugging their shoulders and they're saying, hey, what's going on?
And they seem to be landing on the conclusions that most honest people in the media have now landed on, which is that for whatever reason, so far, this administration has decided to prioritize foreign policy decisions on behalf of Israel.
Now, you can agree or disagree, and some of the people will already start screaming at their screen.
They just, they can't handle this.
They can't believe it.
For whatever reason, we see it.
And now they're freaking out over Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes, which is another one.
So this interview goes massive.
And I'm even talking to people that in the past have had issues with Nick Fuentes' commentary and still have issues with Tucker Carlson and some of the things that he's doing right now in the political movement.
And yet, every person, even the people that kind of look at Nick and kind of crook their head to the side a little bit, like, and the people that look at Tucker Carlson are just like, I don't know.
Even they are coming up to me and they're saying, I don't get it.
Why are people freaking out about this Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes interview?
What is the big deal?
I listened to it.
I don't really like either one of them, but I listened to the interview.
I thought it was a good interview.
I didn't see any problems with it.
And depending on how far they want to go into this conversation, if they're really looking for answers or just trying to have small talk, here's what it is.
And this is not a new issue in politics.
It's actually a really old issue, except it's much more diverse.
And the pool is much larger, let's say.
And I'll refer to an old episode of Family Guy.
Many of us probably grew up watching Family Guy.
And Seth McFarland, the creator of Family Guy, is no conservative.
Certainly, he's a liberal.
But he did a show, and Rush Limbaugh was the guest character for one of the episodes.
And Seth McFarland, who's a liberal, postured it of all these people hating Rush Limbaugh.
And then he postures the question to the haters of Rush.
He postures the question in the episode of Family Guy.
Have you ever actually listened to him speak?
Have you ever actually listened to Rush Limbaugh?
Or are all of the things that you're saying based off of what somebody else said or what somebody else thinks or what somebody else feels?
And ultimately, the conclusion reached in this episode was that the people that hated Rush Limbaugh never listened to Rush Limbaugh.
They really know nothing about him.
They just see the negative hit pieces, the negative headlines, and then form their opinions off of what other people are saying, even though they've never listened to him.
So I think a very similar thing now is happening with Nick Fuentes.
And it seems like with every big interview that he gets, it's like breaking through that conservative gatekeeping matrix just a little bit more.
It's starting to crack.
And I've got these episodes, I've got these examples now of these people on X. And they're saying, if Nick Fuentes gets mainstreamed in conservatism, if Nick Fuentes gets accepted by the GOP, I'm out.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you.
So you're saying now what the truth is, which is that you are the gatekeepers and that anybody that has a foreign policy disagreement with you, you don't want them anywhere near Republican politics.
And then you turn around and you say, golly gee, why can't we win elections?
Golly gee, why is Mom Donnie winning in New York City?
The answer is you.
People can't stand you.
You gatekeepers on the right.
You fake holier than thou non-conservatives.
And now you're just being honest about it.
And what are you doing?
You're going full woke right.
They're going full woke right now.
And they're saying, how dare Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes even talk?
Oh, I can't wait.
What are you going to say next?
Tucker Carlson should be banned.
Nick Fuentes should be banned.
Ooh, I can't wait.
I can't wait.
I feel like it's inevitable.
I feel like it's inevitable because Tucker and Nick are not going to shut up.
They're not going anywhere.
You could even argue that they're more popular than they've ever been right now.
So where are you going to go?
You're not going to support the GOP.
You're not going to vote Republican anymore because of a foreign policy disagreement, because of a foreign country that you're loyal to that most Americans aren't.
Where are you going to go?
That'll be interesting to see.
Are you going to start calling for outright censorship of Tucker Carlson?
Are you going to start calling for outright censorship of Nick Fuentes?
And before you think that that's too far-fetched, remember this.
Conservatives were already calling for Nick Fuentes to be banned years ago.
And many conservatives celebrated when InfoWars and Alex Jones and myself and others were censored and removed from the internet in 2018.
Don't for one second think that these fake conservatives won't start engaging in censorship tomorrow if they could.
They absolutely would, and they absolutely will if they have the power to do so.
I say go for it, guys.
I say go for it.
Just go full mask off.
You're already kind of half mask off as far as where your loyalties lie.
You're already kind of half mask off as far as the things that you truly care about.
But go full mask off.
I don't think Cuomo is going to win.
And I feel bad how the Republicans, the GOP, and some of these big social media influencers have thrown Curtis Sleewa under the bus.
It's disgusting.
It's a shame.
I'm not surprised by it.
But part of me wants to see Cuomo win because I want to see the Republicans celebrate Cuomo winning.
I want to see it.
I want America to see that moment.
I want American conservatives and Christians to see that moment, to see Republicans celebrating Cuomo winning.
Let's go full mask off.
And I find it funny as all of this is going on and we see all the complaints and we see the right wing, the new right-wing establishment wanting to purge is the word they use, purge anybody from the Republican Party that's not pro-Israel.
And that's just the bottom line.
Let's stop playing word games.
Let's not mince words.
Let's not confuse the issue.
Let's call it what it is.
They want to purge anyone from the Republican Party that is not pro-Israel.
That's what they want.
And they're losing badly.
They're losing badly.
But here's what the woke-right doesn't understand.
This is what the woke-right doesn't understand.
They don't understand that we've already been here before.
They must forget that in 2015 and 2016, when we were supporting Donald J. Trump for president, they were supporting Jeb Bush.
They were supporting little Marco Rubio.
They were supporting Ted Cruz.
They were supporting everybody else but Trump.
They were anti-Trump then.
They were never Trump then.
So they think that there's this new thing now, like, oh, we're going to bully you from the right.
We're going to attack you from the right.
We're going to flank you from the right.
And we're going to take you out and defeat you.
Oh, really?
How did that go in 2015 and 2016?
How'd that go for you?
Because it would appear to me like you're now riding the coattails of what we did.
Yeah, it would appear to me that you're actually the followers here.
You think you're leaders.
You have this weird ego issue.
You're in a moment of self-delusion now.
You think you're the leaders.
You're the followers.
You followed us.
If it was up to you, there would never be a president, Donald Trump.
We did that.
Now, you've successfully hopped on the bandwagon and basically co-opted the movement.
You've run a mutiny on the real leaders and thrown them overboard.
And now you're trying to bury them in the dirt and hope that things can go on without us.
But we've already dealt with you 10 years ago.
We already dealt with you.
We already beat you.
And we will do it again.
Now, this is going to be a different time period because Trump already won.
And now that you guys, I guess, are for covering up the Epstein client list, since you guys don't want to demand deep state arrests.
As long as the foreign policy fits whatever benefits you or your beliefs, I don't know why you're so obsessed with that issue, but okay, that's what it is, forever your reasons are.
So you'll have your time and you'll have your four years, and then you'll be stunned when it's a Tucker Carlson or a Marjorie Taylor Greene or a Thomas Massey or somebody else that rises up through the ranks that you don't like, that you try to destroy, and then we beat you again, and then you have to follow us again, and then you co-opt our movement again.
Probably the exact same cycle we'll have again in the next eight to 10 years, is my guess.
It seems that it just keeps happening like this.
And maybe we can break that cycle, but that's seemingly how it goes.
But here's what I find funny.
As I'm seeing a lot of these new woke right fake leaders start to complain about the left.
And I'm sitting here and I'm looking at them and I'm saying, wow, what are you going to do when they come for you?
What are you going to do?
Because none of you are fighters.
None of you are fighters.
And the fight's coming.
It's coming again.
But where were you in 2015, 2016, 2017, standing up against the leftists in the streets and the protests?
Where were you?
You weren't there.
I didn't see you.
I was there.
You weren't.
Where were you in 2020 standing up against the COVID tyranny and the lockdowns and the mask mandates and the vaccine mandates?
Because I didn't see you there.
I was there.
You weren't.
You're not fighters.
Where were you in 2020 after they stole the election?
Where were you in January of 2021 when we tried to stop the steal of the election?
Oh, that's right.
You were nowhere to be found.
Notice how none of the people on the woke right are January 6th defendants.
Can you show me one?
There's got to be one, I'm sure.
There were thousands of maybe there's one, but I don't know.
And so I find it funny that they're sitting here thinking they're flexing their muscles, thinking that they're in control of things.
You don't realize the only people that stood in the way between the radical left and you and everything the radical left represents and you, the woke right, the only thing that stood in their way was us.
We stood in the fray.
We took the flack.
We took the censorship.
We took the smears.
We took the physical assaults, the doxings, the lawfare, the imprisonment, the death threats, the swatting.
We took that while you guys were playing in the flowery fields, while you guys were deciding when you wanted to support Trump or not.
You weren't sure in 2020, but then in 2024, after it was clear he was going to be the nominee again, then you guys were all in for Trump.
We were standing in the fray.
We were being persecuted.
We were being censored.
We were being attacked.
None of you were fighters.
So it's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun when the radical left comes for you and all the fighters on the right wing that you have now purged, as you say, you've purged, you've purged us, you've gotten rid of us, and none of us are there to stand in the way of the radical left.
What are you going to do then?
Have you thought about that?
Because I get it.
I do.
We're a little rough around the edges.
We're a little edgy.
Maybe sometimes we're even inappropriate.
And maybe some of our views to you are a little extreme.
Maybe.
So I get it.
But you're going to find out real soon, you need us, not the other way around.
You just don't realize it yet because you've never been in the fight.
You've always been observers.
You've always been phonies and frauds and cowards, Jeb Bush supporters, anti-Trumpers, never Trumpers.
But, you know, you want to purge us.
You want us off of the political playing field?
Okay.
All right.
How do they say it?
Be careful what you wish for.
Yeah.
You think it's tough dealing with us?
You think it's difficult dealing with the woke left?
Wait till you find out how you're going to deal with them without us.
Let's see.
Let's see if any of you get out in the streets.
Some of you decided to try to fill the void left by Charlie Kirk, and you went to college campuses with about 10 security guards and a folding table.
Yeah, let's see how long that lasts.
Yeah.
Let's see what you can organize.
Let's see what influence or effect you can really have.
Because it's all a charade.
You're just establishment shills now.
And if you think purging the true conservatives and the true American fighters from the right wing is going to offer you any solutions or any path to making America great again, you're about to find out the hard way.
I'm afraid to tell you.
You're about to find out the hard way.
And so this will lead us into the government shutdown news today.
I'm seeing people on the left.
I guess Dave Smith would be an example of somebody on the left.
I don't know.
But that's one that the woke-right loves to attack is Dave Smith.
And Dave Smith is saying, hey, why don't we do a permanent shutdown?
Why do we even have these snap benefits?
And I'm sitting here, I'm scratching my head.
I'm like, so Dave Smith, the supposed liberal comedian, is more conservative than mainstream Republicans now.
And I guess you have to ask the question: what is it that mainstream Republicans even conserve anymore?
Do they conserve anything?
It's a genuine question.
What does the Republican Party conserve?
Culturally, no, they've embraced the LGBTQ plus.
They have.
Okay, fine, whatever.
I'm for Big Tent politics.
I believe political purism is cancer, a terminal illness to any political movement.
So fine.
Hey, if they want to stop putting Democrats in power, whatever.
Bring them all in.
But Republicans, conservative culture anymore?
Nah.
They bring adult film stars.
They mainstream adult film stars.
They mainstream LGBTQ plus activists.
Okay, fine.
Hey, Big Tent, let's win victories.
Cool.
But it's funny, there's one issue.
You can be an adult film star.
You can be LGBTQ plus, whatever.
And they'll mainstream you and they'll put you on the platform at the biggest political events that the Republican Party has at the RNC.
And you'll get mainstreamed.
But if you dare have a disagreement on foreign policy, you could be a true conservative, a true Catholic, true Christian, highest moral standards, everything.
Big family man, big community man.
But if you dare, if you dare have a foreign policy disagreement, you're purged from the party.
And they're going to bring in a porn star to sit in your seat and promote conservative values.
So, Speaker Johnson today at the Capitol.
I get why he's doing it.
And you could even say it's his job to go out there and blame everything on Democrats and to get up there and clear the Republicans of all the blame.
And, you know, it's mostly accurate.
It's the Democrats that are stopping the reopening.
It's the Democrats that aren't voting for it.
Every Republican is voting for it.
It's the Democrats that aren't.
So it's not these being dishonest.
It's just if I have to hear Speaker Johnson or John Thune get up in front of the American people again and promote the welfare state, I think I'm going to be sick.
I think I'm going to be nauseous.
If I have to hear Mike Johnson and John Thune talking about the poor federal workers again, I think I'm going to hurl.
Oh, you're so cold-hearted.
You're so harsh.
Fine.
I don't care.
This is politics, baby.
You want to win or not?
Do you want to save the country or not?
Do you want to promote and instill conservative values into policy decisions or do you not?
Or let's be really cold-hearted.
There are numbers indicating that upwards of 30%, 30% of snap recipients are non-citizens.
30%.
And this is who they're fighting for.
This is who they want to make sure is taken care of.
Do you think they vote Republican, by the way?
The federal workers.
And they're talking about Virginia.
And it's all political.
We got a big election coming up in Virginia, guys.
We got a big election coming up, guys.
We need to reopen the government.
We need to blame everything on the Democrats.
We got to win these elections.
Okay.
So when do we actually decide to promote conservative values?
Don't you know the state of Virginia has the most federal workers and there's an election coming up.
Do you really think those federal workers vote Republican?
What are you so scared of?
This is the moment.
I will say this every single day.
The government shutdown continues.
I will say this every single day on repeat like a broken record.
This is the moment where Republicans should be promoting conservative values and crushing the welfare state, crushing the foreign aid.
And they say, this is a clean bill.
This is a clean budget.
Okay.
Yeah.
Guys, it's so clean.
We just reached the record for the highest debt the country has ever been in.
We're now making annual payments of $1 trillion.
That's how clean it is, guys.
They say, it's a clean bill.
I don't think there's been a clean bill in Washington, D.C. since any of us have even been alive because we wouldn't be $40 trillion in debt if there had been.
It's a clean bill.
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
So a lot of big talk.
We're going to drain the swamp.
They're not draining the swamp.
They're swimming in it.
They're synchronized swimming in the swamp.
That's what they're doing.
They're playing Marco Polo in the swamp.
And they're telling you it's a clean bill.
So I get it.
I get why Speaker Johnson is doing it, but it makes me sick.
And you just realize all of these politicians are cowards.
I shouldn't say all.
The vast majority are cowards.
And the moment that they actually get the opportunity to instill institutional change in Washington, D.C. that everybody voted for, that everybody wants, instead they just go right back into the swamp and play political football with the Democrats.
And they seem to be misreading the numbers.
And Speaker Johnson comes out and he says, the numbers are in.
Republicans are more popular.
The government shutdown actually is helping Republicans.
So why aren't you promoting it?
I don't get it.
It's like you're almost there.
It's like, oh, there's a hint.
It's like, huh, our polling numbers are going up.
How can this be?
Because most people don't follow politics, Mike.
Most people have never listened to a word you've said about this shutdown.
Not a single sentence.
And most people, if you asked, are going to blame the shutdown on Donald Trump because he's the president.
They don't even know who Chuck Schumer is.
They don't know who the speaker is.
They don't know who Chuck Schumer is.
They don't know any of these things.
They just hear government shutdown.
They think President Trump.
They think President Trump is responsible for the shutdown.
And they like it.
And they like it.
And they want more.
And you're up there trying to give the Democrats the credit, even though you know it's actually helping your poll numbers.
So what are we doing here?
Is there no creativity in Washington, D.C.?
Is there none?
Is there nobody there willing to take a shot?
Now is the time for reform.
Now is the time for the Republicans to get in front of the cameras.
You guys want the attention?
Now's the time.
Get in front of the cameras, get behind the microphone and start talking about reform.
Maybe invite Elon Musk back to run Doge.
Maybe actually go for that $1 trillion in waste, fraud, and abuse.
No, that would be too hard.
So instead, you're going to point the finger and wag the finger at Chuck Schumer all day.
We should be talking about ending SNAP benefits or reforming SNAP benefits.
At the very least, reforming SNAP benefits or at large, the welfare state.
Maybe we should be explaining to Americans that aren't getting paid starting this week, potentially air traffic controllers as well, all these federal workers.
Maybe it's time we figured out a way to explain to them why.
Sorry, American.
You don't get your paycheck today, but don't worry because the foreign aid is still going out.
No problem.
No problem at all.
No problem.
So the people that rely on the government welfare to feed their family and the people that rely on the government employment status to pay their bills.
We're sorry, you're out of luck, but have no fear.
We're still going to give the foreign aid to Israel.
We're still going to give the foreign aid to Ukraine.
We're going to beef up our foreign aid to Argentina.
That's even a pun.
Do not fret.
I know you're broke.
And then it's an air traffic controller this morning is a guest on Fox and Friends.
And he's talking about, because it's a big threat.
It's a big threat right now, what's going on with the air traffic controllers, and they're already shorthanded.
And now they're having morale issues because of the government shutdown and they don't know when they're going to be paid again.
So they have an air traffic controller on Fox and Friends this morning.
And he says, the problem that we're dealing with is that the air traffic controllers can't focus at work because they're too busy trying to figure out how to pay their bills, how to pay their kids' tuition, how to pay their rent, their car payments, their mortgages, whatever it is.
And so they're on there talking about how it's this big financial disaster in air traffic control.
And I'm like, wait a second.
What is the message here?
Because if I'm hearing this right, what you're saying is that air traffic controllers, which is a very highly skilled position, you'd think you're probably clearing six figures a year if you can qualify for that job.
You shouldn't be poor.
You'd think you're not living paycheck to paycheck.
You might not be rich, but you should be well taken care of.
You shouldn't have to be worrying.
And now we're told after one week, after one week of missed paychecks, air traffic controllers are fumbling around trying to figure out how they're going to pay their bills.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You know what that says to me?
That says to me the economy is in bad shape.
That's what it tells me.
Oh, you mean the air traffic controllers don't have $10 million in the stock market and they're not getting a 5% bump every day on their $10 million in the stock market?
I'm shocked.
I'm shocked.
You mean the average federal worker who works at a desk for an hourly wage, you're telling me they don't have a portfolio of assets that is increasing in value?
I'm stunned.
But I thought the economy was great.
So this is what the American people hear.
And it's like we're right back into this political swamp, into this political football, but they don't understand.
The American people have had the rose-colored glasses removed.
The American people have had the blindfolds, maybe not totally removed, but we now have slits so that we can see through it.
The blinders on our sides are now expanding.
You can't play these games with us anymore.
Well, the air traffic controllers are really struggling financially.
And so that's because of the government shutdown.
I'm sorry, if somebody making six figures a year, working a very important job, misses one paycheck and can't pay their bills, that's what you call a bad economy.
That's what you call an economy issue.
And so while American workers are facing this financial hardship, foreign aid continues to go out hand over fist, billions of dollars.
This is what the American people are thinking.
This is how the American people are consuming this news now.
And you can get up there and play tiddlywinks and political politics, football all day long.
Nobody's hearing it.
They're living paycheck to paycheck.
They're seeing foreign aid continuing to go out.
They're being told how great the economy is as they struggle.
And you think they give a damn about a government shutdown?
They even came out with the polls in Virginia.
Do you know what the bottom issue?
They had like 20 issues on a list for the Virginia electorate that is about to go vote.
They had 20 issues.
Do you know what the bottom last issue was?
Do you know what the last issue of all the issues on this questionnaire of Virginia voters?
Do you know what the last issue was?
The government shutdown, the very last.
And that's in Virginia that has the most federal workers of any state.
And the last issue they cared about was the government shutdown.
Why are we playing this game?
Why won't the Republicans actually act like conservatives for once?
Why won't the Republicans actually start to be agents of change that their voters are begging them to be for once?
And it's like President Trump, while he's trying to get these tariff deals done in Asia, has to come out here and create a headline that Jack Smith is a criminal who belongs in prison.
It's like, that's all we can get is a good headline.
It's like, that's all we can get.
It's like, yeah, more of that.
Oh, that's what we want.
Yeah, we want the deep state arrested.
That's what we want.
And that's the state of things right now.
Oh, wow.
Republicans have the House.
Republicans have the Senate.
Republicans have the White House.
And all we can get is a headline.
That's all we can get is a damn headline.
And you think people give a damn about the government shutdown?
You want to win elections?
You want to bury the political left?
Do you want to end the Democrat Party politically?
Step in front of that podium tomorrow and talk about government reform.
Step in front of that podium tomorrow and talk about ending the welfare state.
Talk about ending or reforming the SNAP benefits.
Start talking like the average American wants you to talk.
Start thinking like the average American is thinking.
We don't care about a government shutdown.
I'm sorry to say, we don't care about the federal workers.
And if you really wanted to fund them, you could.
And that's the big lie.
That's the big lie.
The government shutdown.
It's the most disingenuous, fake political stuntery that we have to endure.
If any of you wanted to pay these people, you could pay them tomorrow.
The foreign aid doesn't stop.
The trillions of dollars that we have to pay on the interest on the debt our country is in doesn't stop.
You guys print money.
You make money.
You make it out of thin air.
Literally, they make money out of thin air.
And then they sit up there and they say, sorry, we can't pay you.
Sorry.
Nothing we can do.
But by the way, Argentina, here's another $40 billion.
What?
That's four months.
That's almost five months worth of snap benefits, $40 billion.
But you don't get that.
Argentina does.
So I'm just, I'm just, I'm just so sick of it.
And I know I'm not the only one.
Most people are.
Mike Johnson and Marjorie Taylor Greene clash in heated private GOP call over shutdown strategy because see, Marjorie Taylor Greene gets it.
Marjorie Taylor Greene understands it.
She's like, hey, what are we doing here?
I thought we were draining the swamp.
I thought we were arresting the deep state.
I thought we were making America great again.
You guys are up here walking up to the podium crying about a government shutdown that most people couldn't care less about.
Seems like Marjorie Taylor Greene gets it.
So this conference call yesterday, I'm sure Marjorie is like, hey, drop the act.
Nobody cares about the government shutdown.
Let's talk about the issues that people actually care about.
Well, what does that do for us, Marjorie?
says Speaker Johnson.
Speaker Johnson, what does going to the podium and complaining about a government shutdown do for us?
What have you ever done for us?
Here's what Green told Fox News.
Tell me this isn't spot on.
Tell me this isn't a bullseye from Marjorie Taylor Greene.
You guys need to get out of Washington, D.C. and go back to your districts and talk to real people because people are pissed.
They expect us to do our legislative constitutional duty and not take marching orders from the political team at the White House.
She then said even the president is losing support.
Folks, she's right.
She's right.
There's this, I don't know what you would call it.
I don't know if there's a I don't know if there's a word for it in human psychology.
I doubt it's a new thing, but maybe it's maybe it's a bigger thing than ever.
It's this weird thing where it's like you just telling the truth pisses people off just because they don't want to hear it.
So I guess it's been around forever.
I don't know what you would call this.
But like you tell one of these Trump cultists, you tell one of these people that have built an entire personality, an entire brand off of Donald Trump that really, I think I think they're just scared.
I think they're just scared of life after Trump.
And it's kind of hitting them now that he's not going to be running for reelection, which it sounds like the whole idea of him running for a third term is not going to happen.
So maybe Bannon was just going for headlines when he said that.
And he knows how to do that.
So I'm thinking that's what it is.
But you find one of these people that have just made a whole personality, a whole brand off of Trump.
I think they're scared.
I think they're scared.
They don't know what to do.
They don't even know who they are anymore.
They don't even know what they are anymore.
They don't know what they're going to do after President Trump is gone.
It's like, are you still going to go around in your costumes?
Are you still going to be the MAGA this and the Trump that?
Are you going to be your own person again?
They don't know.
They don't know what to do.
So it scares them.
It freaks them out.
It's a fact, folks.
It is a fact that Trump is losing support.
That is a fact.
And you can deny it as much as you want because you're high on the sauce.
You can close your eyes and close your ears and tell people to stop talking.
But that's not going to change the reality.
Folks, I'm talking to veterans, huge Trump supporters.
I'm talking to people my age.
I'm talking to people older, younger men, women.
They are all saying the same thing.
They're all saying the same thing.
Some people maybe haven't budged.
I don't know anybody that likes Trump more now.
Do you know anybody that likes Trump more now than they did in January?
The only people are the Israeli lobbyists.
That's it.
The Israel dual citizens and Benjamin Netanyahu's agents.
Those are the only people.
So that's like, what, 0.0001% of the American population?
Yeah, Trump is the best ever in their eyes.
Outside of that, he's losing support everywhere.
He's hemorrhaging support from young Americans.
Many young men are just outright pissed at how things have gone so far.
And they just want to close their ears and close their eyes.
La la la la la la la not happening, not happening.
It's not true.
But Marjorie Taylor Green is right.
You need to go talk to the average American.
And you're going to find out real quick how true it is.
And I know you're scared.
You're scared because you're the MAGA guy.
You're scared because you're the Trump brand guy.
And you don't know what you're going to do.
And it's been such a long ride since you decided to hop on the bandwagon.
It's been such a long, profitable, fun ride for you as the Trump brand guy, the MAGA brand guy.
And you got your outfit and you got your moniker, but you don't know what you're going to do.
And if Trump is losing popularity and if Trump's approval ratings are going down, and if the Trump administration isn't doing what people want it to do, now you're scared because now you might not be so cool and you might not be so popular.
And whatever time you have left to profit off of your brand that is based off of somebody else, not even based off of you, you have no personality.
You have no brand.
It's all based off of somebody else.
You're scared.
Because if Trump goes down, you go down.
So I get it.
But this is the reality.
And Marjorie Taylor Greene is right.
And eventually, you're going to learn it the hard way.
You're going to learn it the hard way when we have to beat you again in the 2028 primaries.
Or you're going to learn it the hard way when the Democrats win the House in 2026.
I don't know which one it's going to be, but it's going to be one of those two.
And you won't be able to deny it then.
But it's all this denial game.
And I'm not playing it.
And then, but see, you know, and of course, the problem is, and this is why you really just have to ignore Democrats at this point.
So it's like we can totally lean in to the conversations, the debates, the disagreements on the right.
We can lean into that and we can move forward amicably, but they don't want to move forward amicably.
They want you out of the movement.
They want to move forward without you.
But it's like we can't even really go all in on that because we still have to deal with this Democrat crap.
Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota, is suing the Trump administration to prevent them from suspending SNAP benefits.
Isn't that rich?
I will not allow Trump to use hungry children as bargaining chips.
It's just unbelievable.
USDA has a multi-billion dollar contingency fund intended to keep programs like SNAP running.
They must use it.
Well, first of all, they don't have the money.
Okay.
They don't have the money.
Secondly, it's the Democrats that aren't voting.
Every single Republican in the Senate voted to reopen the government.
Every single one voted for the continued resolution to reopen the government.
Every single one.
They needed seven Democrats, six or seven Democrats.
I think it was seven.
They needed seven Democrats to vote in the Senate.
Just seven, and not a single one did.
Not a single one.
And so you're blaming that on Republicans.
So it's like you've got the Republicans that are like fork-tongued, disingenuous cowards, and then you have the Democrats that are just outright evil, diabolical, lying sacks of crap.
Actually, it reminds me of a South Park episode.
You're going to vote for the turd sandwich or the douche?
Which one you got?
You know, you thought you had something new, but it ends up being the same, doesn't it?
Every single time?
Turd sandwich or douche?
Which one is which at this point?
I guess the douche at least serves a purpose.
So maybe, I don't know, who's the douche?
Who's the turd sandwich?
This is what you get.
And this is why so many on the right are disenfranchised and so many on the left are disenfranchised too.
But the right is in power.
We just won the election and it's like we can't even get what we vote for.
And they say, what are you talking about?
We got a secure border.
That's basic law enforcement, bro.
That is basic law enforcement.
I'm celebrating we have a secure border.
Great job.
AA, you got an A on the board for a secure border and you're working on deportations.
Great job.
No one's denying that that is probably your strong point right now.
I don't know if there's anything else even close to that right now.
But okay, so that's your strong point.
That's basic law enforcement.
There's nothing special about that.
That's what the status quo should be.
So now they want you to celebrate mediocrity.
And I guess that's really the modern day right wing in a nutshell, isn't it?
It's like, well, at least we're here.
Yeah, but you don't win anything.
Yeah, but we're here.
Yeah, but you never change anything.
I know, but we are here.
That's it.
That's celebrate the mediocrity of the Republican Party.
That's what they want you to do.
So, okay, you've got a golden opportunity to start talking about reform, to start talking about ending all these entitlements, these welfare programs.
You could snowball it into foreign aid.
Maybe we can actually do something about the debt.
And they just, nah, we're going to play political football, point the finger at the Democrats, and then go home, or maybe go to our luxury DC apartments with our friends, with our, you know, interns.
Yeah.
So, what's new, guys?
So, what's new?
Well, I guess, you know, we got an alien spaceship or a comet or something coming up.
He's like, honestly, I came on the air.
It's like, I just don't even, I don't even want to do the politics because people just say you're black pilled.
You're a pessimist.
So, fine, what do you want?
I'll just come on here and talk about what I saw a bunch of orbs in the sky in Austin, Texas last night.
That was kind of cool.
Or whatever the hell was going on.
So, okay, Republicans are going to blow it.
They're going to, they're going to, this government shut down a golden opportunity to actually do some things your voters want you to do, and they're just not going to do it.
And now they got another golden opportunity.
They got another golden opportunity with what's being revealed in this Jack Smith Arctic Frost probe.
Do you think they're going to blow that too?
Say it's a pretty safe bet.
They're probably going to blow that deal too.
That would be my guess.
That would be my guess.
And I guess time will tell.
But hey, at least it's like, wow, President Trump is like, holy smokes, these Republicans are blowing it bad right now.
I'm going to give them a positive headline and say Jack Smith belongs in prison.
It's like, that's the best we can get right now.
So we'll have more on that coming up in the second hour today.
As we close out the first hour of today's show, remember our friends at blackoutcoffee.com, folks, remember them.
If you're a coffee drinker, this is the official coffee of the Owen Report.
And after doing a bunch of taste tests and deciding which coffee company we wanted to go with, it was a no-brainer for us.
It was Blackout Coffee.
Now, you can get 20% off your first order.
We're offering you 20% off your first order right now.
All you got to do is go to blackoutcoffee.com/slash Owen.
Now, my favorite is the dark roasts, the pitch black espresso, or the brutal awakening.
Those are my favorite as far as the bags of coffee are concerned.
But I'm starting to dabble into the single-serve pods, and I just can't help it.
I can't help myself because it's a lot more convenient than making a full pot of coffee and then drinking six cups.
And they do have the normal roasts.
You can get your dark roast, your medium roasts in the single-serve pods.
Or if you want to get fancy or dare I say a little bit fruity, go with something like a blueberry crumble, maybe a cinnamon French toast, maybe a chocolate cherry.
Or if you want to get seasonal, they even have a pumpkin spice.
Everybody loves the pumpkin spice.
So if you want to get seasonal, and you're already seeing the Christmas ads, you've got your peppermint mocha.
You've got your winter wonderland.
You've got your eggnog.
You've got your candy cane.
So they're all ready for the Christmas season.
A great gift for your friend or family member that's a coffee drinker.
And it's just great for you because it's great coffee.
And you support a great American coffee company that supports free speech.
Now, if you've never tried the instant coffee, to me, this is now a must-have.
The instant coffee is a must-have.
And it doesn't have to be your go-to.
But if you're in a rush and you need a cup of coffee as fast as possible, the premium instant coffee from blackoutcoffee.com will not let you down.
And it's a 32-pack.
So you get one box of this.
You're going to be set for a while.
Try it.
It's the best instant coffee you're going to find, the best flavor, most instant coffee.
It kind of just tastes watered down.
You're not really satisfied drinking it.
Not the case.
Not the case with the blackout coffee premium instant coffee.
So go to blackoutcoffee.com/slash owen, get your new favorite coffee, and use coupon code Owen at checkout so that you can get that 20% off your first order.
Thank you to our friends at blackoutcoffee.com slash Owen.
All right, first hour in the books, and we'll get into the Jack Smith Arctic Frost news on the other side of this break.
You're listening to the Owen Report on the Wynn Network.
Now, I want to get into the next thing the Republicans are about to blow, in my opinion, and that is the Arctic Frost investigation.
Now, when I went live today, the latest number in the news was 160 Republicans.
Now, this was originally it was the eight, and we all saw them complaining about getting spied on, even though they all voted for the government to spy on us.
They don't like it when they get spied on.
The number is increased to over 160.
It'll be 500 by the end of the week if it hasn't hit the press yet.
But there are ongoing meetings right now in D.C., and there's some journalists that have some insider stuff they're going to be breaking today.
Over 160 Republicans may have been investigated by Biden's FBI in Arctic Frost probe.
Now, there's some other big developments on this that I am not at liberty to get into yet.
And in fact, I may not even be able to get into at all because of legal reasons.
And I think that you can probably summarize what I'm saying here because I have my own litigation involving multiple cases.
So, I'm probably not going to be able to get into some of the other breaking news.
Other people are covering it.
It's out there.
It's not like I'm covering it up.
It's all out there and more is coming.
I just can't cover it because I'm involved in litigation with all of this stuff.
But there's some other very interesting stuff that's going to come out this week.
And then it just gets right back to the same question.
When is Pam Bondi going to do something?
When is the FBI going to do something?
When are we actually going to get deep state arrests?
So, Trump, Trump comes to the rescue with a headline.
Trump calls Jack Smith a criminal who should be in prison in latest attack on his perceived foes.
Perceived foes.
Yeah, they just lied about Trump.
They just framed Trump.
They just brought him into court.
Total weaponized judicial system, total lawfare.
These are not the perceived foes of just President Trump.
These are the foes of the American people, including President Trump.
Trump calls for prosecution of more Biden-era justice officials, including Jack Smith and Merrick Garland.
Let's go.
What are we waiting for?
This is what we voted for.
We want to drain the swamp.
When was the last time Trump even said drain the swamp?
We want to arrest the deep state.
Is anybody still talking about this?
Or have these words, have these terms been removed from the Republican Party lexicon because it might just mean we want you to do something about it.
Might just mean that.
So we got to ease up on those words.
We got to not say those things anymore.
Parker, fifth grade teacher and family detained by ICE in Colorado, Global Village Academy.
Parents were sent a letter on Monday alerting them that Marina Ortiz and her family were detained while she was completing a Rue teen appointment related to her immigration case.
So here's the deal: she had every opportunity to take care of this.
She came in illegally under Joe Biden.
She knew that she was going to get deported if she didn't go through proper protocols, and now she's been deported.
So they play this sob story.
And you know, I get it.
I do.
This is a teacher.
She was probably beloved by her students in the community.
So this is an ugly one.
But you came in illegally under Joe Biden.
You had every opportunity to try to fix this before you had your ICE meeting, and you knew you were going to get deported.
So sorry, but you knew.
So, of course, the media spends it.
And oh, it's the big victim thing, and the poor community, and the poor teacher.
And okay, she came in illegally under Joe Biden.
She had every warning to try to fix this, and she didn't do it.
And she knew she was going to get deported.
So I don't know what you want.
I don't know what you want from us.
You came in illegally, you got deported.
I don't know what you want from us.
This isn't a damn free ride here.
Ohio uncovers over 1,000 non-citizens appearing registered to vote.
Sends cases to the Department of Justice for prosecution.
And the Secretary of State in Ohio, Frank LaRose, says 167 individuals appeared to have cast ballots in federal elections since 2018.
No, there's no voter fraud.
No, no, no, no, no.
The Fed has cut rates for the second time this year.
We'll end balance sheet runoff in December by a 10 to 2 vote.
The central bank's federal open market committee lowered its benchmark overnight borrowing rate to a range of 3.75 to 4%.
They cut it by a quarter of a percent.
In addition to the rate move, the Fed announced that it would be ending the reduction of its asset purchases, a process known as quantitative tightening on December 1st.
The statement reiterated concerns that policymakers have over the labor market, saying that downside risks to employment rose in recent months.
All right.
So they're trying to lower the interest rate.
It's finally going the right direction.
It's not enough yet.
But the big interest rate that people need to see a massive change on is mortgages, is the housing market.
That's where you really need to get the interest rate down.
That's where people are really suffering right now.
And they're signing on to mortgages, and it's almost impossible to get it under 5%.
And that's tough when you're paying that much interest.
It's not good.
Not good economics.
Now, after today's show, I'm going to be interviewing a member of the Beef Initiative, which is well-connected, well-informed to the cattle ranchers and the beef industry lobbyists in Washington, D.C. And so we're going to get an update on that later today, later after the show at 6:30 when I interview Brianna Sagdahl right here.
And we'll ask about the situation with Argentina.
We'll ask about this.
Senate votes 52 to 48 to nuke Trump's tariffs on Brazil.
And the headline from the Gateway Punnet, these five rhinos voted with the Democrats.
Well, I would say it's like this.
Tom Tillis, yeah, I guess you could say maybe he's a rhino, but I don't know.
He seems just unpredictable.
He knows his political career is coming to an end.
So he just, there's no consequence for him.
Now, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and Mitch McConnell, that is your rhino voting block.
That is your anti-Trump.
That is your rat voting block.
Republicans against Trump, your rat voting block.
That's Collins, Murkowski, and McConnell.
Now, Rand Paul, who's one of the few, maybe the only conservative left in the Senate, he's always had a principled stance against conservative, excuse me, against tariffs.
So I don't really think that this is too big of a story that Rand Paul voted against it because he's consistently voted against it.
He's consistently had a principled stance against tariffs.
Whether you like it or not, that's just always how Rand Paul has been.
He's been consistent on that.
So your issue here is Tom Tillis, an outgoing Republican, and then your issue is Collins, Murkowski, and McConnell, who are Republicans against Trump.
But this is certainly not how Trump wanted it to go because I think this was kind of part of the alley oop with the bailout of the Arjun Tina beef market.
So I don't think that's exactly how he wanted that to go.
Yeah, you remember that murder on the train of the Ukrainian refugee?
Well, there's been another homicide on the same train.
CMPD investigating homicide near South Charlotte light rail stop.
Another one.
Another one.
At the scene, sounds like it's another young woman.
They found Zafina Rivers, 23 years old, near the Norfolk Southern train tracks with a gunshot wound.
Rivers taken to a hospital, later died, according to police.
They don't have too many details on this homicide right now.
So, boy.
It's a shame.
Can't even ride the train anymore without taking your life, without risking your life.
Taking your life into consideration now when you ride the train.
All right, this story is getting a lot of play, a lot of attention today.
Cash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe, an explosive feud with Trump's counterterror chief.
Now, that is Joe Kent, who is a great American.
FBI Director Cash Patel crushed efforts by Tulsi Gabbard's closest advisor to see if a foreign power was involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination.
The head of the National Counterterrorism Center, Joe Kent, analyzed FBI files to determine whether Kirk's alleged killer received assistance from a foreign power.
Kent's investigation alarmed Patel, who believed the counterterror chief was overstepping by interfering with an ongoing FBI investigation, according to the New York Times.
Now, let me carry on here.
The Times spoke with supporters of Kent who claim he was doing his job by chasing down any leads to ensure no foreign groups were involved in Kirk's death.
After Patel discovered Kent had gone through FBI case material related to the Kirk killing, a tense White House meeting was held to discuss the matter.
A roundtable meeting between Patel, Kent Gabbard, Vance, and Wiles, and senior DOJ officials was held at the White House.
Kent told administrative officials that he was granted access to FBI files by a low-ranking agency official.
The White House meeting was so tense that little was accomplished, according to the Times.
Trump administration officials were worried that Kent's probe into foreign interference could provide ammunition to Robinson's defense lawyers.
That doesn't make sense, who could then argue more than one suspect was involved in Kirk's murder.
Well, how would they have access to that information anyway?
And why is the FBI deciding they're basically closing the idea?
They're not open to the idea that there might be more than one person involved.
I don't like the direction this is heading, folks.
I don't like it at all.
The FBI and the DOJ have traditionally tightly regulated evidence in active criminal investigations and prosecutions.
Under the direction of Kent, the Counterterrorism Center collected material from other intelligence agencies regarding potential foreign ties to Robinson, as well as evaluated any potential foreign funding from individuals associated with left-wing groups such as Antifa.
There have been long-standing issues regarding jurisdiction between Gabbard's office and the FBI.
That's also alarming, in my opinion.
It is not clear if the FBI or the Counterterrorism Center is still investigating whether a foreign power assisted in the murder of Charlie Kirk.
In a joint statement, Patel and Gabbard said the FBI and intelligence community under the direction of President Trump will leave no stone unturned in the investigation of the assassination of our friend Charlie Kirk.
Well, it sounds like the FBI is leaving stones unturned, actually, is what it sounds like.
So the former CIA employee and Green Beret veteran is known for his non-interventionist foreign policy views, much like Tulsi Gabbard, which is why Gabbard's department gets attacked the most because they're non-interventionists and they would probably be called isolationists, but they're closer to America first than anybody else out there.
Now, here's why I'm concerned about what's happening here.
Because you have to ask the right questions.
You're getting mixed messages.
If the FBI says they want every stone unturned, then why are they stopping Joe Kent from turning over stones?
what is it that the FBI has seen that we haven't?
And the obvious question remains.
Why haven't they released the full video?
This is the obvious.
Of all the different issues, of all the different questions, anomalies, impossibilities, that's the biggest one.
Why won't they release the full video?
They have the video of Tyler Robinson taking the shot, if it happened.
So what am I left to believe?
You have the video of Tyler Robinson taking the shot.
So why haven't you shared it?
It's an honest question.
It's no conspiracy theory.
They have the video.
They decided to edit the video and only release the part where he's running across the roof.
Why?
Simple question.
Why?
And maybe we'll get an answer to that question in the trial.
Maybe.
But that's the biggest question.
That's the most obvious question.
And it's the most suspicious.
It's the most suspicious thing, I think, of the entire thing.
But here's what I don't understand.
I think there's either one of two things happening here.
Either there's some sort of a petty power struggle over this investigation right now, and it's just this petty thing about who's going to be investigating and who's going to be the hero and who's going to collect all the evidence.
And it's the FBI and it's the counterterrorism department and it's maybe it's Joe Kent and Cash Patel personally.
I don't know.
That's your more innocent option.
That there's just some petty personality conflict or power struggle right now over the investigation.
That's your innocent explanation.
Perhaps your not so innocent explanation of this is that, and would anybody be surprised that the FBI is covering up a crime.
Now, of course, you can't take what they're saying at face value.
They want to put a good face on this and they want to say, oh, no, no, no, everything's good.
Everything's good.
So if you take that at face value, then you have to land on the not-so-innocent conclusion here is that somebody's covering this up.
What was it that Joe Kent was investigating that the FBI didn't want him to?
Where was it that Joe Kent was looking that the FBI didn't want him to?
It's a totally fair question.
And they can sit here because it's obviously an excuse and they can sit here and say it's interfering with the investigation.
It'll give Tyler Robinson's defense an out.
But hold on a second.
Folks, Think about this for one second.
And this is how you know they're lying.
And this is why I'm not so sure this is so innocent.
I'm not so sure this is a personality conflict.
It's a potential, but I'm not so sure.
Because if the FBI had the video of Tyler Robinson taking the shot, then why would they care?
Why would any of this matter?
We know the FBI has the video, so why do they care?
Well, now you have two conclusions: one, there are other people involved, and for whatever reason, they don't want Joe Kent to find out.
It could be for the more innocent reason of who gets the credit.
It could be for a more guilty reason of a cover-up.
But for whatever reason, they don't want Joe Kent to continue looking into it.
But to say it would hurt the prosecution, to say that somehow it would help Tyler Robinson.
Well, then if I'm taking that at face value, then what did you just tell me?
What did the FBI just tell me?
They don't have a video of Tyler Robinson shooting a gun.
How else am I supposed to interpret this, folks?
If the FBI is concerned about their evidence and the FBI is concerned about the prosecution, then they don't have a video of Tyler Robinson taking a shot, folks.
They don't have it.
So then what do they have?
So then the video that they edited, the video that they purposely edited and released to the public of Tyler Robinson running across the roof after he took the shot, what do they have?
This is now the, look, to the people that have been following this, and I've been transparent about my approach and why I backed off of it after the memorial in Phoenix.
And there have been a lot of big developments, quite frankly, since then, including some very strange internet activity.
And I'll leave it at that for now.
Was Joe Kent looking into that?
Let me ask you this question.
If Joe Kent was looking into Chinese involvement, do you think they'd be telling him to stop?
If Joe Kent was looking into Iranian involvement, do you think they'd be telling him to stop?
If Joe Kent was looking into Russian involvement, do you think they'd be telling him to stop?
Or what if Joe Kent was looking into something else?
What if Joe Kent was looking into a lot of the things that we are looking into?
What if Joe Kent was looking into a lot of the things that are clearly red flags that any other investigator would be at least curious to look into, maybe not convinced of anything, but at least curious enough to look into it.
And if the FBI is concerned that somehow Joe Kent's investigation is going to hurt their prosecution, then now I'm convinced you do not have a video of Tyler Robinson taking a shot.
And if you don't have a video of Tyler Robinson taking a shot, but you have the video of him running across the roof, then Tyler Robinson didn't take the shot, did he?
What other conclusion am I to reach?
Now, again, the innocent explanation could be a personality conflict.
It could be a who's going to get the credit conflict.
That would be your innocent explanation.
Now, I'm not going to act like I know Joe Kent well, but I was interviewing Joe Kent before anybody else when he was running for Congress years ago.
I was the first person to interview Joe Kent when he was running for Congress in Washington, D.C. And of probably the four interviews that I had with Joe, he's probably about as stand-up as a guy you're going to get.
And as far as ego is concerned, he's not an ego guy.
He's not a big ego guy.
He's not a big credit guy.
He's a very humble.
He's a man that has humility in his character.
So, for me to go with the innocent explanation that there's some sort of personality conflict and who's going to get the credit and the hero credentials from this investigation, that doesn't really fit the Joe Kent profile.
That doesn't really fit the Joe Kent character.
And if we really want to expand this, it doesn't really fit Tulsi Gabbard character either, does it?
So, I'm not so sure.
I'm not so sure this is a personality issue because the math ain't math in for me, but it's okay.
It's still a potential.
But, folks, I'm looking at this now and I'm saying, hold on a second.
This is the biggest development, I think, because it's coming from the actual investigators.
We're not talking about the independent investigators, not to slight them, because they've produced some incredible stuff.
Very, very suspicious stuff, to say the least.
Stuff that's almost impossible, quite frankly.
It's like almost impossible that this isn't direct evidence of involvement in the Kirk assassination.
But this is actually coming from the feds.
So, again, I just ask you, you have to reach logical conclusions here, folks.
You have to do your own deductive reasoning to reach a logical conclusion.
The FBI has a video of Tyler Robinson on the roof.
They edit the video to show him running across the roof after the shot, but intentionally leave him taking the shot out of the video.
Why?
Maybe there's an explanation for that.
Maybe.
But if Tyler Robinson took that shot on the roof, 100% they have that video.
But if the prosecution is concerned that they can't close, they can't get a conviction.
And they're afraid whatever Joe Ken is looking into could hurt their chances of getting a conviction, then they don't have a video of Tyler Robinson taking a shot.
And if they don't have a video of Tyler Robinson taking a shot, then ladies and gentlemen, Tyler Robinson didn't take a shot.
I'd love to hear how my logic is wrong on this.
I'd love to hear how any other conclusion can be reached on this.
But when you add it into the evidence that is pretty overwhelming at this point, that the wound in Charlie Kirk's neck is an exit wound.
Well, this really doesn't look good, does it?
And it never did, but now it looks even worse.
Now it looks like evidence of a cover-up.
Not evidence of a killer getting away.
Not evidence of a Patsy.
Not evidence of this thing is messy and we're really trying to get to the bottom of it.
No, now this is straight up.
We're into cover-up territory now.
And you know, it's like the same, it's kind of the same vein of when people get mad at you for telling the truth.
It's like, do you think I like this?
Do you think I want it to go this way?
Do you think this is what I want to report?
Do you think I get some sort of a joy out of this?
This sucks.
This thing sucks so much.
And this thing is so toxic.
I decided to step away and wait and see what happens next.
Well, this to me now is what's happened next.
And if you've been listening, what have I been saying?
I'm saying, I'm going to wait for the next shoe to drop before I dive back into this.
I'm going to wait.
I'm going to see.
I've been following the, I've still gone down all the rabbit holes.
I've been following the independent investigators, but I said this.
I was very consistent.
I said, I'm going to wait until we get something from the actual feds, till we get something from the actual government, and then I'll go back in.
So now this is what we have.
And this might be, this might be the worst yet, folks.
And it's not going to be reported that way because you really have to read in between the lines.
You really have to put everything into a linear chronological order.
And then you have to do your own deductive reasoning to reach conclusion.
But I don't know how I can reach any conclusion other than the conclusion I've reached now.
If you have a video of Tyler Robinson taking the shot, then you would not be concerned about getting a conviction in this case.
There would be no concern.
You have the ultimate evidence.
Now, maybe there's a reason why you haven't shared it with us.
But now, when you say you're afraid of whatever it is Kent is investigating that'll hurt your prosecution, now I'm convinced you don't have a video of Tyler Robinson taking a shot.
And if you don't have a video of Tyler Robinson taking a shot, then guess what?
He didn't kill Charlie Kirk.
And we got a big problem now, don't we?
We got a big problem now, don't we?
And maybe this is the conclusion that Joe Kent reached.
Now, maybe Joe Kent has seen the video of Tyler taking the shot.
And maybe he was just investigating foreign involvement.
And maybe he was going to find something that either the FBI didn't want him to find or that the FBI wants to take credit for.
And so they don't want Joe Kent to be the one to get that credit.
That's your innocent explanation.
But I'm not so sure things in DC are that innocent.
Are you?
I'm not so sure.
That's a tough, that's a tough conclusion to reach.
So I said I would wait till we get something else from the federal investigation.
This is the first, I think, big shoot, big next shoe to drop.
And so there you go.
I'm not going to reach any conclusions about what actually happened, but I am going to use logic and deductive reasoning based off of this new information to say, hmm, here are the new potentials.
And it doesn't look good.
It doesn't look good.
And I see this new thing now, like Tim Poole coming out today.
And he says the Charlie Kirk assassination has turned into true crime drama.
And I'm sitting here.
I'm like, dude, they shot him in front of us.
What do you mean, true crime drama?
They literally shot him in front of us and we saw him bleed out and die.
And all the answers that we've been given since then make no sense.
What do you mean this has turned into a true crime drama?
It is literally a true crime drama.
A public political assassination with a bunch of unanswered questions.
It is a true crime drama.
It's not people turning it into a true crime drama.
It is inherently a true crime drama.
So I don't get that logic.
I don't get that.
Oh, don't talk about it.
You're just turning it into true crime drama.
What do you, what?
It is true crime drama.
Bill Gates, what is this?
This one is curious to me.
I got to tell you, this one is curious to me.
Is this a Trump influence thing?
Is this Bill Gates realizing maybe he was fooled?
This one is kind of strange.
Bill Gates says climate crisis won't cause humanity's demise and call to shift focus to improvising, excuse me, to improving lives.
Billionaire statement comes a day after UN said humanity missed 1.5 Celsius climate target and warned of devastation.
Bill Gates calls for a strategic pivot in the effort against the climate crisis, writing that the world should shift away from trying to limit rising temperatures and instead focus on efforts to prevent disease and poverty.
You know, it's ironic.
I forget the number, but Bill Gates has given ample billions of dollars.
I don't know if the number is in this story.
He's given billions of dollars to fight the climate change crisis.
And obviously nothing has changed.
So I don't know, maybe Bill Gates is Bill Gates realizing that he's been fooled and that they've taken his money and it didn't, and nothing came of it?
Did Donald Trump twist Bill's arm and say, Bill, lay off the climate crap and, you know, let's help each other out, but you got to drop the climate crap.
We're done with it.
Or is Bill Gates just shape-shifting now because he realizes he's not popular and people don't believe the climate crisis anymore?
I don't know.
Bill Gates calls for climate fight to shift focus from curbing emissions to reducing human suffering.
So the point here is Bill Gates, who's given multiple billions of dollars to fight climate change, could easily cut an $8 billion check right now to stop Americans from going hungry because they aren't going to get their snap benefits.
Do you think he will?
Somehow I don't think so.
But it is funny that way.
It is funny that way.
You know, Bill Gates that said we need to get this number down to zero to stop climate change and that number was humans on planet Earth.
You know that, Bill Gates?
I wonder why the sudden change of mind?
Why the sudden change of heart?
Just wondering.
Just curious what's up with that from old Bill Gates.
Or maybe now he realizes that energy consumption and energy production is going to have to be higher than ever to fuel this AI deal.
And so he's just like, all right, well, we got to drop that act because we're about to be using more energy than ever before just to produce the new AI-based economy.
So we're going to have to change tact here.
All right, let's go geopolitical.
Putin claims Russian troops have surrounded two Ukrainian cities.
Ukraine says it's not true.
Now, Putin did an interview where he's like, hey, look, we've got 10,000 Ukrainians surrounded right now.
And then he actually said, we're just going to circle them.
We're not going to attack him.
We invite the Ukraine media to come out.
You guys can film it.
You can show it.
You can show how we're encircling it.
We're not going to attack, but just come out and show the world we've got you surrounded.
All you got to do is stand down.
All you got to do is just give it up.
We've got you surrounded.
So Ukrainian soldiers are encircled near cities of Polkrust and Kupinisk.
Claims Russia, President Putin says Russia is ready to halt combat activities to allow Media to cover the situation, but is concerned over Ukraine's provocations.
So he's trying to do a stand down by force here, and it looks like Ukraine is not interested.
Now, this could get ugly.
This could get nasty because now Putin has kind of laid down a bet here.
He's laid down a bet.
And if Ukraine calls him on it and says you're bluffing, we might have a problem.
That could get serious fast.
You know, I got this stat.
I'm so sick of it like everybody else.
It's like I can barely even, it's like I barely even want to talk about it anymore, but it's a big story.
It's a big national interest story.
And that's, of course, foreign relations with Israel.
So we're all sick of it.
Let me just do it as fast as possible.
I'm so sick of it too.
I can barely even deal with it anymore.
But here we go.
Israel says ceasefire back on after latest strikes kill more than 100 in Gaza.
Don't you love how Israel operates?
They bomb you and then they say, all right, ceasefire back on.
You know anybody like that in life?
It's like, oh, stop punching me.
Okay, we'll stop punching each other.
And then they start punching you again and then they stop and they say, no, we said we're not doing it.
That's basically Israel.
Israel bombs you and then says, all right, ceasefire back on.
And Trump has to support it.
It's embarrassing.
The whole thing is just embarrassing.
And everybody's sick of it.
Everybody's sick of it.
But now they're purging anybody from the right that isn't all in for Israel or doesn't support, doesn't want to support Israel's wars.
Stop anti-Semitism.
Really effective account at stopping anti-Semitism, by the way.
Actually, it serves the opposite purpose of what it claims to be intended to do.
Tucker Carlson will be the demise of the Republican Party.
Yeah, how dare he do interviews?
How dare he talk to people?
This man must be ostracized from public forums.
What are we?
What are we sounding like now?
Does that sound like the woke left to you?
Does that sound like censorship to you?
Must be ostracized from public forums, insider circles, and every place in between.
Otherwise, the GOP will morph into the radical abyss, like the Democrats after failing to rein in AOC, Rashida Talib, Ilan Omar, and their ilk.
I don't know if you realize it or not, or maybe it's intentional, but you're doing more, you're doing more harm than good.
You're actually creating anti-Semites with crap like this, and you're hurting your cause.
If you were just willing to have an open debate and disagreement and say, okay, agree to disagree, and then we'll just see what happens in policy.
But no, you want to engage in censorship.
You want to engage in woke persecution of people that disagree with you on foreign policy.
And look, you have to be honest about where this goes.
You have to study history and you have to understand where this goes.
So it doesn't matter now, whether it's the left or the right.
It's the exact same.
It's the exact same path to the exact same results, ladies and gentlemen.
They disagree with you.
They call for you to be purged.
They call for you to be censored.
They engage in lawfare against you.
They put you in prison.
They smear you.
They attack you.
They threaten you.
And then what do they do?
What is their final act?
They kill you.
They kill you.
We got to be very careful with this.
You need to understand how dangerous this is.
We have to be able to have a disagreement on foreign policy without, because this is the new power.
This is the new power on the right, in case you haven't noticed.
In case it's not blatantly obvious, this is the new power on the right.
And that's why somebody that makes a death threat to Laura Loomer is arrested the next day, but somebody that makes a death threat to anybody else, nobody cares.
Nobody responds to anything.
And good.
I'm glad the person that threatened Laura Loomer is going to jail.
I hope anybody that threatens Laura Loomer, I hope anybody that makes Laura Loomer's life in danger is put in jail.
100% I support that.
But I got all these other stories now of other people that can show very credible death threats and they publish it and they send it to their attorney generals and they send it to the Department of Justice and nothing happens.
Nothing.
So, hey, I'm glad.
Congratulations to Josh Hammer and Seth Dillon and Laura Loomer.
Great work.
You found a violent person that made death threats and you got him and he's going to jail.
Great work.
I celebrate that.
And I hope that you guys never have to deal with that.
But you realize that the people that disagree with you on foreign policy, you realize that they have to deal with that every day too.
And they never get arrests.
And I don't see you fighting for them.
So this is where this goes.
This whole stop anti-Semitism thing.
It's the same thing as the woke left.
Stop racism.
Stop bigotry.
Stop homophobia.
Stop transphobia.
And eventually they pick up a gun and they kill you.
So this whole movement is going to go in the same direction as the woke left, folks, if we don't reign this deal in and try to cool the temperature here.
We need to be able to have a foreign policy disagreement without turning into woke, without it turning into hate, because that's where this is going.
And you just look at with every move.
Oh, here's Tucker Carlson.
Oh, here's Nick Fuentes.
Oh, here's the Hodge twins.
Oh, here's Owen Schroyer.
Here's all these people.
Oh, and now they're labeling you things.
They want people to attack you.
Why do you think they call you Nazis?
They want somebody to come and kill you, folks.
Let's not play games.
Let's not mince our words.
Let's be honest.
This only goes one direction.
The woke right is going the exact same direction as the woke left.
They're already trying to deport you for your speech.
They're already trying to imprison you for your speech.
They're already trying to sign laws on the books to criminalize your speech.
They already want to purge you from any political bodies because you have a foreign policy disagreement.
This is the beginning phases of the woke right becoming fully radicalized, just like the woke left.
Pay very close attention to this.
This is the new threat to free speech.
This is the new threat to public forum discussion and censorship and lawfare and persecution and then physical and violent threats.
And this is where it comes from.
And they can, and look, they can say, hey, to the other side, they can say, hey, you know, you need to be careful with your rhetoric too.
All right.
Fine.
But let's not act like there's any institutional power coming from the opposition to the Israeli lobby.
There's no institutional power there.
They make it up.
They make it up.
They say the Muslim Brotherhood.
Who's the mother of the brotherhood?
They say Qatar.
Nobody's taking money from Qatar.
You guys are making it up.
You have the institutional power, and that's why you're using it to go after your enemies.
And that's why you're trying to get the full force of it to purge anybody from the right wing that you have a foreign policy disagreement with.
And even though you have institutional power to get away with some of it, you're losing the narrative.
And what did the left do when they lost the narrative?
What did they do, folks?
How'd that one go?
And it's stuff like this.
If the GOP mainstreams Fuentes, I'm out.
Go ahead.
Bye.
See ya.
You didn't say that when they mainstreamed porn stars.
You didn't say that when they mainstreamed LGBTQ plus.
Nope, you never said it, but oh, it's Fuentes.
Why?
Because he has a foreign policy disagreement.
Gotcha.
And besides, I just can't, part of me is like, just go ahead.
Part of me is an accelerationist with this and is like, fine.
What are you guys going to do without us?
You just don't, you haven't realized it yet.
None of you are fighters.
And I know this for a fact because I've been in the arena.
None of you have ever been there.
I've never seen any of you in the arena ever once.
Never.
You weren't there in 2015.
You weren't there in 2016.
You weren't there in 2017.
You weren't there in 2018.
You weren't there in 2020.
You weren't there in 2021.
You have never, ever entered the arena.
You've always been observers.
So part of me is like, okay, good luck.
Good luck.
You think you can handle the heat?
You think you can do the political fighting that we've been doing?
You think you can take the licks?
You think you can take the prison time?
You think you can take the law fare?
You think you can endure all of that that we've endured?
Go ahead.
Enjoy.
I hope it's worth it.
I hope a foreign country is worth it for you.
But I have a feeling you're going to back down.
You're going to bow out.
You can't handle the heat.
If Nick Fuentes scares you, if Nick Fuentes is your threshold about whether you're going to support the GOP or not, then you're just a coward.
I have pillows that are tougher than you.
I have bed sheets that are tougher than you.
So part of me just says, okay, enjoy.
Enjoy losing the midterms.
Enjoy the law fare that's going to follow.
Enjoy it when they come after you and you don't have a fight in your body.
And then you're going to be looking at us and saying, where are you?
Where are you?
Why aren't you helping us?
Why aren't you defending us?
Why aren't you out in the streets protesting?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
You said you don't want us.
You said you want nothing to do with us.
So why would we fight for you?
Isn't it so telling?
Isn't that always how it goes with these people?
It's always a one-way street.
They want you to do everything for them, but they'll never show up.
they'll never show up.
I'll tell a quick little story here.
I just don't know if I can go on with this.
I've got to understand.
I had somebody, I made some posts on X. It was not even, it was like not even controversial.
And they were like, I can't believe.
I actually did this, by the way.
I'll prove it if you want.
They said, I can't believe I supported you.
I wrote you letters.
I wrote you letters when you were in prison.
Well, you know, that's funny because I went through my stack of letters and I didn't find your name.
Yeah.
You didn't write me letters.
You're just liars, aren't you?
All you on the woke right, you're just liars.
And you don't know how to handle us because we're not liars.
You might not like us.
You might think we're a little crass, maybe inappropriate, maybe even rude.
We're a little edgy.
I get that.
That scares you.
Okay, you don't like us.
That's fine.
But we're not liars.
Notice how they can never call us liars.
Oh, I went and I looked you up, bud.
I went through my mail.
You probably didn't think I saved it.
I did.
I've got every single letter.
Your name wasn't in the stack, bud.
Just tell you what.
I think the stack is.
Do you want me to grab the stack?
I'll grab the stack.
I'll show you.
I just went through it.
Your name wasn't in there.
You're all liars.
You never supported me.
It's like, I can't believe I supported you.
You didn't support me, you liar.
I'll leave it alone.
I'll leave it alone.
I don't even know if I, I can't even get into this stuff, but it's stuff like this.
Charlie Kirk is no friend to Israel.
No friend to the Jewish community.
It's people like this.
And this was the attack on Charlie Kirk.
Everybody saw it.
Everybody saw it from the likes of Laura Loomer and Sloan Ratchmuth and all of these other people.
Because Charlie would dare platform people that might have a different opinion.
And it was Charlie Kirk that said, the minute you stop talking is when violence happens.
Do you hear that?
Do you hear that?
And I'm, and I'm, you know, we'll see, but I think things behind the scenes at Turning Point USA were a little maybe a little more heated than people want to let on right now.
But isn't it funny?
Oh, you dared platform Lauren Shin.
Oh, you dared platform Tucker Carlson.
And they threw Charlie under the bus just like that, just from platforming someone with a different opinion.
Dave Smith, you name it.
How dare Charlie platform somebody with a different opinion?
We're done with you, Charlie.
You're no friend of ours.
But don't look at us.
We didn't do anything bad.
We had nothing to do with it, though.
And he was our best friend.
No, you're the ones.
They did, folks, they did Charlie Kirk just like they're doing all of us right now.
These purists, these woke right purists are such frauds and such phonies.
You don't think we see what you're up to?
As if the internet isn't forever.
I got more.
I just can't do it anymore.
I can't do it anymore.
But I've got this stuff for days.
I'm just sick of it like you guys are.
But I'll just ask, why isn't the DOJ going after Aaron Levitsky who made death threats to Morgan Ariel?
And this is just one example.
Again, I've got these for days.
I'm just wondering why.
And you know what?
I don't really care.
I don't really care what you think of Morgan Ariel.
I'm just asking, why are some death threats worth pursuing and others not?
That's all.
It's a totally fair question.
And if law enforcement can't be applied equally, then what do we have?
What do we have?
I can't do that.
I got to move on.
I just can't do anything.
can't deal with this crap anymore.
I've got it for days.
But it is very timely that the National Review comes out with their anniversary issue.
And funny enough, on their cover, they have a litany of different covers that they put out.
Actually, we have the National Review against Trump famous cover right there on their 70th anniversary cover.
And then, inside of it, their lead story is bashing Phyllis Schlafly, one of the greatest right-wing activists, conservative activists, American patriots, Phyllis Schlafly, one of the greatest of all time, one of the GOATs.
And the National Review is bassing Phyllis Schlafly.
These are the losers of the right wing.
These are the losers.
These are the cowards.
These are the frauds of the right wing that told you to never vote for Trump.
And now they're going to pretend like they're the Trump movement.
They're going to pretend like they're the Trump-based.
And now they're bashing Phyllis Schlafly, one of the greatest American patriots of all time, who's no longer with us.
Just disgusting.
This is what we're up against now.
It's not the left.
The left has no power.
The left has no influence.
The new institutional corrupt power, the new institutional corrupt culture is from the woke right.
And that's what we have to deal with now.
And that's where the real fight is now.
It's about the future of the right wing.
It's about the future of America, quite frankly, through the right wing, because that's where it's all going.
And what are we going to get with it?
Are we going to get America first?
Are we going to get pro-America policy?
Are we going to get common sense legislation and policy that benefits Americans and America?
Are we going to continue with this never-ending welfare state?
Are we going to continue with the welfare state for the entire world?
Are we going to continue using and abusing the American taxpayer to fund this corporate global welfare program, this global political oligarchy that the American people have to pay for with their blood, sweat, and tears every single freaking day?
And God forbid you actually want to change that and enact institutional change that benefits the American people.
Here comes the National Review.
Here come the neocons.
Here come the foreign loyalists to stamp you out and keep the grift going and keep the corruption going so that it never ends.
And that any voices that rise up on the right wing that actually want to pursue these changes and apply pressure to the corrupt political system, they're going to try to stomp you out by any means necessary.
And the evidence that this is already happening is all around you, ladies and gentlemen.
It's all around you.
The only way you can't see it is if you don't want to.
You're listening to The Owen Report on the Wynn Network.
It's the fastest three hours on the Internet.
It's the Owen Report with Owen Schroyer.
I think I want to open up the phone lines.
I think I want to open up the phone lines here.
Let me take a quick look.
Let me take a quick look at my video list, though.
Let's see what we got on the video list today.
We do have some interesting things.
We do have some interesting things on the video list today.
But I may just want to go to the phone lines.
I think that's what we're going to do.
I think we'll just open up the phone lines.
Maybe we'll get to these clips later after we take some calls.
So let's do that.
Let's get the phone lines open.
All right.
All right.
Boom.
Phone lines open.
747-255-60.
747-255-60.
Remember, it's line to line.
So you call, I pick up.
I ask you your name and where you're from, and you are on the air.
That simple.
747-255-60.
And so we'll take some calls and then maybe get to some of these video clips.
All right.
First caller of the day.
What's your name?
Where you from?
Don't be shy.
Go ahead.
Hey, this is Jonathan from San Diego.
All right.
What's up, John?
What's up, man?
I just want to tell you, I totally agree with you.
And I'm going nuts to seeing everything that's going on.
It's just not right.
I think the majority of the public is sick of it, too.
And I think we're going to lose the midterms.
It's a sad time right now.
I think we need to turn things around.
I just want to.
Yeah, I think the midterms may end up, the deciding factor might end up being the redistricting.
And both the Republicans and the Democrats are doing as much as they can to try to get an advantage heading into the midterms.
So that could be the ultimate difference: who wins the gerrymandering words.
But as it stands, I don't think Republicans have the momentum.
I don't.
I don't think they have the momentum.
And that's mostly because Trump isn't on the ballot.
And the voter enthusiasm is just down.
Okay.
It's just down.
If you want voter enthusiasm to be up as a Republican, then you better start arresting deep state people.
You better start addressing the stolen election.
You better start addressing what they did to us during COVID.
And if you're not going to do any of that, then there's just not going to be any voter enthusiasm.
And without Trump on the ballot, I don't think the turnout is going to be so hot.
Completely agree with you, brother.
Thanks for all that you do, man.
Well, thanks for that.
Thanks for tuning in.
Thanks for calling.
You know, folks, it's not even a debate.
Like that's what I'm trying.
It's what I'm trying to say.
And I'm sure that our friend John in San Diego is not going to be the only caller.
Like, I'm telling you guys, we are in the majority.
And I know it's like a weird thing that you hear this and you're like, wow, he's the only one that thinks like me.
He's the only one that talks like me.
No.
I understand that in the media, in the media landscape, it's few and far between.
I understand in the media landscape, it's a rare voice.
I am a rare voice.
For whatever reason, people either don't see it, they don't want to say it, they don't know it.
I don't know.
I know I'm not the only one out there, but it's a very small, it's a very small corner of the media market that's willing to say it like it is right now.
It's a very small corner.
I just so happen to be in it.
But I'm telling you right now, most people think like this, talk like this, and feel like this.
You are not alone.
You are in the majority, even.
Trust me.
Just try it for yourself.
Next time you're out with friends or family, if you dare, with your conservative friends or family, or people that vote Republican or centrists, even liberals, bring this stuff up.
See what they're saying.
You'll find out most people think, talk, and feel like we do.
But MAGA's been co-opted.
The Trump administration has become very swampy.
And the institutional power that now exists with the right is not being used for what we want it to be used for.
Simple as that.
But make no mistake about it.
Don't thank me like I'm the only one that feels this way.
Don't feel like you're relieved when you're hearing me talking.
We are the majority.
We are the heart and soul of this country.
We are how most people feel, think, and talk.
It's very important you understand that.
And that's why I'm going to beat it like a damn drum every day because we need to act like that.
They want us to be demoralized.
They want us to feel alone.
We're not.
We never have been.
We never will be.
Next caller, what's your name where you're from?
Hello, and this is Billy from Tacoma, Washington.
Go ahead.
When you were talking about your letters that people were writing to you in jail, that one imposter claimed to have written you a letter.
It struck me, I remember you mentioning that you were writing a book on your experiences of what it was like in your time.
And is there any update on that?
Are you going to follow through with that?
Yeah, so here's the problem.
I have the book is written like a diary.
The problem is the first three weeks got stolen or trashed or whatever.
So I lost three weeks of writing.
And then writing a book is a very time-consuming endeavor.
You can imagine hosting a three-hour show and preparing for a three-hour show is a very time-consuming endeavor.
And so I am in talks with some publishers.
And I'm just, it's just a matter of if I make the decision, because I can give it over to them right now and they can write what's there, but it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be the best product.
So really, it'd be like, I would have to take, I would have to get this show where I want it to be and then maybe hand the reins over to like a guest host for like a week or two and then write the book and send it to the publishers.
So I don't know.
I mean, it'll probably happen, but I just don't have a timetable for you.
It's not a priority for me right now.
Yeah, I understand that.
You know what I think would be cool, though, if that time comes, is to make a documentary type story about your experience versus a book.
Yeah, well, that's another time-consuming agenda.
I mean, I definitely, I definitely have people that, you know, they do movies, they do documentaries.
They'd love to hop on board with that.
But yeah, right now, this show is my baby.
This show is, I view it as my future.
This is, this is my calling.
This is my career.
This is what I want to do.
This is what I said yesterday.
It's something I'm trying to build for 50 years.
In 50 years, I want this to be here, the Owen Report, the Wind Network, bigger than ever.
So that's kind of what I'm focusing on now.
If I get to a point in time, maybe in December or next year, if I get to a point in time where I feel very comfortable with where things are at here at the Wind Network and the Owen Report, and I feel like I can maybe have somebody fill in for a week, because I don't know.
I mean, I guess I could just take a week off.
I don't really want to do that, but that's kind of what it would take.
It would take me, okay, I'm going to divert my energy off of this and focus on the book for a week.
And I could probably do it in a week if I wanted to.
So it just becomes a matter of priority.
And then I don't know.
I mean, if somebody wanted to do a documentary, I would probably want nothing to do with it, honestly.
I'd probably just say, here you go.
Here's the story.
Hire whoever you want to do it and just take it away.
And move on.
Yeah.
It's just, I think to get your experiences would be very interesting to see what you went through.
And I do remember you talking about how those three weeks were lost or took it from you.
I think that they take your writings away.
Yeah.
It was either my guess is somebody stole my property.
You know, it is a federal prison.
Stuff gets stolen.
So my guess is somebody just stole my property and my writing just happened to be in the property.
So they probably just trashed it.
They probably didn't want the writing.
They probably just trashed it when they stole all the other stuff.
I don't think there was some nefarious actor that took it and said, ooh, I'm going to get Schroyer and just trash it.
I think it probably just got stolen.
All right.
Well, thank you very much for answering that, Owen.
I watch every day.
I haven't missed a single episode yet.
Thank you.
And you know what?
And I'm glad you actually brought that up because I meant to announce this on Monday.
And of course I forget.
Monday, I am actually launching a new show.
The Wynn Network is launching a new show on Monday.
And it's actually a reinvention of an old segment I used to do called Ask the Doctor.
And so I've been fortunate enough to team up with the wellness company and the likes of Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Kelly Victory, and others.
And we are launching an Ask the Doctor weekly show.
The first broadcast will be Monday at 11 a.m. Central with Dr. Kelly Victory.
The next show will be the next Monday after that.
So I think it's November 3rd and the 10th or something.
I don't have the calendar in front of me.
Let me pull it up actually.
So, yeah.
So the first Ask the Doctor show will be Monday, November 3rd at 11 a.m.
Central.
The second Ask the Doctor show will be Monday, November 10th at 11 a.m.
Central.
And it kind of, I'd like to have a set time for the show, but it kind of depends on the doctor's availability.
And we're going to try to have a new doctor every week.
So we kind of have to work around the doctor's schedule.
But it looks like we're going to be shooting for Monday mornings, but just stay tuned.
But the first two Ask the Doctor shows, Monday, November 3rd, 11 a.m. and Monday, November 10th, 11 a.m.
And basically what we're going to do is it's going to be about an hour long.
Again, it all kind of depends on the doctor's availability.
But we're shooting for an hour long and we're going to bring in the doctor.
We're going to do about 30 minutes of medical news and medical updates and stuff that's going on with the administration, whatever just kind of medical stories are for 15 to 30 minutes, however long it takes.
And then we're going to open up the phone lines and then you can ask the doctor whatever question you want.
That's the Ask the Doctor show.
So that's going to be launching next month.
So this is kind of some of the other stuff that I've been working on behind the scenes.
I'm really, like I said, my focus, my thrust here is to build the Wind Network.
So we've got the Owen report.
We're off the ground.
We're about to complete the first month.
I think you can kind of see it coming into form, coming into format, getting rid of some of the tech bugs and stuff.
I appreciate people's patience.
And that was my goal: okay, do the first month and then launch the next show in month number two.
And so that's happening next month.
So I'm glad that you brought that up.
I forgot to mention that Monday.
So show number two on the Wind Network, Ask the Doctor, starting next Monday with some of the biggest doctors, some of the doctors that became heroes during COVID, some of the biggest doctors that are media personalities out there.
That's who we're going to bring on.
And we're going to give you access.
We're going to give you access to them to call in and ask them whatever medical questions you want.
So really excited to kind of reinvent that as a standalone show.
That's going to be launching Monday.
And I'm so glad you brought up other potential projects here because I forgot to even, I forgot to even mention that on Monday when I should have.
So excited to start that in November.
And I hope you will tune in and enjoy that and call in and talk to the great doctors that we bring on as well.
All right, next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Hey, it's Sam from Montana.
How are you doing, Owen?
What's going on, Sam?
We're all right today.
You know, we had an interesting, you know, I'm going to, when you ask me how I'm doing, do you want me to ask, do you want me to actually answer the question?
Well, usually no, but you got my curiosity now.
Go ahead.
Usually no, he says.
Usually no.
Isn't that right, though?
Isn't that the truth?
The small talk?
You know what?
I'll tell you.
I was a little upset because it got cold.
It got cold in Austin today.
We had our normal like 100 days without any rain, 100 degrees, just like we get in Austin Summers here from July through September.
And then we had a couple days of rainstorms.
It brought in a little cold front, and it was 50 degrees this morning.
I was dying.
It was 50 degrees, Sam.
And I'm out here.
I'm out here going.
I went to the gym at 6 a.m.
And I'm here in my sleeveless shirt.
It's windy and 50.
I was freezing.
I could have cut diamonds with my nipples.
It was so cold.
So I didn't really like, I didn't really enjoy that cold weather this morning.
I wasn't a fan of that.
But other than that, we're doing great.
The sun is out.
It's back to 80 degrees.
I got orbs floating around, aerial phenomenons floating around at night.
And life is good, Sam.
So there's your answer.
Thank you for asking, Sam.
God bless you.
I mentioned it before, but I am the guy who hooked you up with Nick Oaks, one of the J6er that you had on your show one time.
Yeah.
Remember him?
Yes.
I was the one who put that all together, but I'm glad you had him on.
It was great.
But I really called in to tell you that I got that water purification system of yours.
And now I'm a water snob.
See, did I tell you?
Did I tell you?
I would never steer you wrong.
I would never steer you wrong.
I'm the same way with the water snobbery now, too.
I had a little sticker shock at first, but I'm like, well, you know, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this and see how it works.
I have my daughter here and she can turn on the hot water thing there and make some tea or some instant soup or something like that.
I think all around.
And the water is just delicious.
And I've never been a water snob, but now I am.
It's actually crazy because people would say, oh, you're just doing a marketing plug and you're just doing a tagline.
I'm telling you, the Cove Pure Water filtration system, you can literally taste the difference.
I wouldn't just be telling you that.
So I'm glad that you're calling in and telling people that my testimony here, my sales pitch is the real deal.
And it is nice to be able to have scalding hot water right there.
You can get your instant coffee.
You can get your tea.
And it's just one push of a button.
So it's really great.
So I'm glad.
And I told the guys.
Go ahead.
Well, I told the guys when I took the month off and I was considering sponsors and everything else.
And I told the guys, I was like, look, we're going to have to be selective with the sponsors, period.
And I know, you know, for salespeople, it's like it's all about inventory and it's all about as many sales as you can make, right?
Because they, you know, because they want to get paid.
Everybody wants to get paid.
And I said, look, I have to be very selective about sponsors.
I have to be very selective.
I have to make sure that they're going to support whatever I say, no matter what, and they're not going to have any problems.
So that was step one.
And then step two was, I have to know it's a product that I like and I have to test the product first.
And I'll just say right now, there's two sponsors that we're probably going to be announcing next month.
We're going to have another onboarding call.
I'm testing those two products right now.
And then everything going swimmingly.
We'll probably announce two more sponsors next week.
But I said, I was like, look, I'm not going to have a sponsor whose product I can't at least test first.
I'm not going to do that because I want to sell products that I actually like.
And then I want to make sure that the people that come on as sponsors are not going to be afraid of what I have to say.
And so far, it's been a beautiful thing.
I really appreciate everybody supporting our sponsors.
Today's sponsor, blackoutcoffee.com slash Owen.
Tomorrow's sponsor is Cove Pure Water Filters, CovePure.com slash Owen.
Really appreciate you giving them a shout out and supporting them.
Yeah, no problem.
You can use me for any testimonials like you used to do on your other channel.
But I've been a day one guy with you on the broadcast here.
I watched the whole thing, how it went.
And, you know, I still watch a little Alex and Harrison, but mostly at 3 o'clock my time or 2 o'clock my time, I'm listening to you, and I appreciate it.
I know you're very frustrated with the current events right now, and I am too, and I don't even know the way out of it.
I mean, how do we get rid of cash and Pan Bondi?
I don't even know how.
Well, I don't know if you're going to do any better than cash.
I mean, people have their problems.
I'm kind of right now still with the mindset of ride, cash, and Dan, as long as they're around.
I just don't know if you're going to do any better.
Bondi, to me, has to go.
I mean, Bondi is just so in over her head.
People are starting to get a little frustrated with cash.
I'm hearing Bongino's not going to last much longer, so I don't know.
But to me, to me, it's all on Bondi right now.
It's just like Bondi sets the tone.
Yeah, Bondi sets the tone.
Bondi sets the pace.
And, you know, you can, hey, look, Trump bears some responsibility in this too.
This isn't saying, you know, Trump bears no responsibility, but at a certain level, Trump has to delegate and Trump has to be able to rely on his people, perhaps more than any other president.
Trump has to rely on his administration to get the work done.
And Pam just isn't doing it straight up.
Now, I will say they made an announcement.
It wasn't Pam Bondi, strangely enough, the one time Pam Bonnie didn't want to go on camera.
But they did make an announcement today that they've got a bunch of other arrests from these ICE protesters that are about to face long sentences.
They're going to try to get long sentences for jail.
And so that's good.
It was the one time Pam Bonnie didn't want to go in front of the cameras, oddly enough.
Maybe she's sick today or something.
But it's just like, again, when are you going to go after the funders?
When are you going to go after the organizers?
That's what you told us you were going to do.
You still haven't done it.
So I don't know.
It's just like they love to address the surface level stuff.
And that's the problem.
We always address the surface level stuff.
It's almost like it's like throughout society, even.
We always address the surface level stuff.
We never address the root cause.
And so these diseases, they just continue to manifest.
Yeah, it's frustrating for sure.
It's like we thought it was just going to be lickety split.
And I was listening to Stephen Bannon earlier, and he had some guy on saying that, like, you know, cash is having a hard time because what do you do?
You got to fire half the FBI.
You got to streamline it down to a smaller thing and start all over.
And that's what I say.
Start all over.
Fire everybody, you know, and start over.
Well, there was, it was, it was Tony Schaefer.
It was, I think, Tom Fitton.
There were a couple other, you know, bigger names out there that are kind of starting this campaign to shut down the FBI.
And of course, Cash Patel said he would do that day one.
Now, I don't really, I see a lot of people attacking Cash Patel like, oh, you said you would shut down the FBI on day one.
Well, hey, look, let's be a little fair here.
It's a lot different to say that during a podcast interview and then become the FBI director and do it.
All right, let's not equate the two things.
So I don't hold that against Cash Patel as much as others do, but I would say this.
If they don't have an agenda to go in there, utilize the FBI and the good people at the FBI to do whatever good work needs to be done with the ultimate intention of either completely shutting it down or whittling it down to a very small group of actual investigators, then that would be upsetting.
If they don't have some plan to either do massive reform or shrinking of the FBI after they use it for good purposes, then I think we have the right to ask Cash, hey, what's up with that?
I'm not going to hold it too much against him for saying that on a podcast.
But right now, there doesn't seem to be any indication that there's any intent to shrink the size of government.
I don't really see any true intent there.
Well, the shutdown, I thought they were going to lay off a whole bunch of people.
I was kind of excited about that.
Yeah, well, you and most other Americans.
Yeah, go get a real job.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Anyway.
Most Americans would probably not care, not care about people being fired or let go or just abolishing agencies, even like the IRS.
I don't think people would really care too much about that.
They would probably celebrate it, but doesn't seem to be any real interest there from the administration.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Owl Killer calling in from Virginia.
All right, Owl Killer, the number one state of federal employment.
How you doing?
So far, supposedly we're getting our military retirement pay, at least I think active duty as well.
So, but we don't know about anything after that.
Well, there was a private donor that said that they would pay the military payroll if the shutdown ended up impacting the payroll that's about to come out.
So I think whether the shutdown happens or not next week, I think that the payroll will be coming out from a private donor, whoever it is.
Well, it's crazy because they have all the restaurants are like furlough, like for this weekend, furlough Friday, 50% off for like government workers and stuff.
So like the entire state's been impacted by it.
But what I was calling in about, so again, like I don't, I cannot agree with Nick Fuentes on like his, like, like there's nothing redeeming about a Nazi, you know what I mean?
And I don't think he's a Nazi, but I think he like it says like they have good ideas and things like that.
But he makes some great points.
And one thing he's been saying is that Trump has to make a choice.
He either needs to shut for the lack of, he needs to shut the shit down, meaning that all these states that are in the states and the cities that are in rebellion or just make nice with the Democrats.
Now, best case, for me, the best thing would have been, and I don't know if he is, he was humble enough to reach across the aisle, would have been bring everybody in and say, hey, almost like they did with Napoleon, hey, you can keep all your stolen loot, but we're moving forward from here.
I'm not going to prosecute any of you.
But if he doesn't want, if he didn't want to reach out or they rejected that, you have to throw the hammer at these people.
And indicting people for Mickey Mouse stuff like Bolton with documents and call me for lying to Congress, no.
Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution says you are going to guarantee the states a Republican form of government.
What that doesn't mean Republican Party.
What that means is down to the individual minority.
If the states or the or the city or even a town is infringing on the civil rights of a person and the and depriving people of having like sanctuary cities and things like that, the Arkansas nine, when Eisenhower sent in the National Guard into Arkansas, the majority of the state was against those little black girls going to the school, and it was wrong.
And it didn't matter that the majority was against them.
The law is the law.
He has carte blanche to remove the governors, remove mayors.
But if you can't just keep basically playing on the fence, like, oh, they're radical.
Either you stomp it out completely or you just let them do what they want to do and really present to the American people, hey, this shutdown, what they are doing.
They deliberately tried to overwhelm our social security net.
They deliberately brought these illegals in to receive these benefits.
Here's the clips, just play the videos of them saying what they're saying.
But there seems to be no attempt to present to the American people the other side, like the Podesta plan.
Present that to the American people.
Show them where they said what they would do.
And then if, because if not, he's going to be called a fascist or whatever if he ever has to respond to something.
But he's in Lincoln time right now.
Like he has to choose: is he going to let it happen or is he going to be Lincoln?
It's one of the two.
You know, in that Tucker Carlson interview that everybody's freaking out about, and it's not because of anything Nick said, it's just because they're afraid they're losing the narrative, I think, more than anything.
And Tucker and Nick are just unstoppable forces.
But there was a clip where Nick talks about how we have to completely crush the left.
And I'm just like, and I'm like, where is it?
Why is it that these right-wingers, these purists, these holier than thou, it's like, hey, let's have a disagreement.
Let's have a debate.
Let's put the left in the dust behind us.
Let's move forward amicably with our differences and crush the left.
And I'm just like, why can't you amplify that?
Why can't you echo that?
It's like, fine, whatever.
You go out here and do your smear campaigns and attack campaigns against whoever it is you want, whatever.
I can't stop you from doing that.
But it's just like, when do we get to unite and crush the left?
It's like they want to, they're the ones that want to do this purity test.
They're the ones that want to do this gatekeeping thing, and they just don't get it.
You're never going to overwhelm the system when you're intentionally sabotaging your own numbers.
And that's what it is.
They're intentionally sabotaging the overwhelming numbers that we would otherwise have to completely defeat the left, all because of a foreign policy dispute, all because of some gatekeeping morality purity test that they think they're better than the rest of us.
So people are sick of it.
I think its timetable is ending.
And the other thing you said here, and I want to take other calls, you know, words have meanings, and the political system is so corrupted now that it's like nobody even cares what you say.
It's just, oh, what do I interpret it as?
Or what direction do I think you're going?
Think about it like this from a very simple perspective, Republicans and Democrats.
Now, again, execution-wise, I don't know.
But I do think you can still kind of put these things in a box for interpretation.
Republicans, Republic.
The main, if there's a core, it's like, what is the core of the Republican Party?
Well, you can't even really say conservatism.
So it's like, what is the core of the Republican Party versus what is the core of the Democrat Party?
The Republican Party has to have a core value of, at the end of the day, we are in a free market republic, and you have God-given rights that we are here to protect.
And that's our core mission.
So conservatism, liberal, right-left, throw all that out the window.
The Republican Party, the core value should be: we are a free market republic, and everything we do politically is to protect our sovereign state as a free market republic.
And the Democrats are the antithesis.
They're the enemy of this.
They want to be able to vote everything.
They are about the democratic process.
They want to be able to vote your guns away.
They want to be able to vote your free speech away.
They want to be able to vote the indoctrination of your children into the education system.
So really, that should kind of be, and I don't, obviously I don't like any of that, but it's like that should be the understanding.
That should be the battle.
The Republicans, we're fighting for your sovereign nation state as a free market republic.
Nobody can vote away your rights.
Nobody can vote away how you want to raise your kids.
Nobody can vote that away.
Where the Democrats, they want to run your life and they want to be able to get the power to run your life via a Democratic system of vote.
So that should kind of be, I think, the interpretation of the American two-party system.
Now, again, it's all bastardized.
It's all watered down.
It's all corrupted.
But that should be the understanding.
That should be the understanding.
That should be the core function that everything else is derived from.
And I think it would be a much healthier process if that was the understanding and that was kind of the launch pad for everything else.
But like I said, everything is just so corrupted now that you can't even, it's like you can't even agree what a word means anymore.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Next caller, what's your name?
Where you from?
Hi, Anthony New York.
How are you?
What's up, Anthony?
I'm doing good.
So, I mean, we're in the golden age now.
Are you tired of all this winning?
Yeah, I'm wondering what people would say we're winning on.
It's a genuine question.
I don't know.
Right.
I mean, Trump said for the last five years about the cheating, the cheating, the cheating 2020.
Now he's amazingly, he got back in and nothing's going on.
So it's like, where are we with all this?
I mean, he's got three years left.
Once he's out, party's over.
Yeah.
Well, and again, this is why, you know, it's not like I'm trying to, I think I'm very fair.
I think I'm very fair in my criticisms of Trump or the administration.
And I think I'm very fair in giving credit where credit is due.
I think I'm very fair in this process.
So, you know, it's this, it's this like this gravitational force, this vortex of Trump.
And it's like everything is about Trump all the time.
And it's just like, no, that's not really the case.
You know, Trump has to delegate.
Trump has to be able to put people in positions that he trusts to get a job done.
And that's why I think probably everyone's fired, honestly.
I think probably everybody in this administration just about is probably fired by the midterms is my guess.
And the people that he'll probably stick around are the ones that are actually doing their job.
Whether you like them or not is a different story.
But, you know, you look at like a Scott Besant.
You look at like a Howard Luttnick.
You look at a, oh, I forget the name of the guy who's doing the delegating in the peace deals.
Witcoff.
You look at Witkoff.
Like these are guys that are obviously working and getting results, right?
Whether you like them or not, but they're out there getting results.
Like that is happening.
You can see it.
Then meanwhile, it's like, what results are Pam Bond?
What is Pam Bondi doing?
What is Brooke Rollins doing?
You know, you go down the list and you're like, what are you even doing?
What are your results?
What are you hanging your hat on at the end of the day?
Trump can't do all of this stuff.
He can't.
It's impossible.
He has to be able to delegate these things to people that he can trust to get the job done.
If they don't get the job done, then he's got to bring somebody else in.
So I do anticipate the Trump administration will look a lot different in the second administration, or the second Congress for the second administration.
Now, the question is, he's going to have to start thinking strategically about this next year, because if the Democrats are on pace to take the House in the midterms, he's probably going to have to do massive changes before that happens.
He's probably going to have to think about shaking up the administration before the midterms, if they anticipate the Democrats are going to take the House, because then that makes it a lot more difficult to get new people in.
So that's going to be something he's going to have to think about in probably about six months.
Last quick question.
World Series, time 2-2, three games left, two in Toronto.
What do you got?
You know, I was, I still think I picked Dodger.
I said Dodgers in six, so I feel like I have to stick by my original prediction.
So I'd have to go Dodgers win tonight.
I picked Dodgers in six, so I do think they would win tonight.
You know, when you play an 18-inning game, that's two ball games, right?
I mean, these two teams played two games for game number three.
So that kind of throws everything out the window now.
And I think if you look at last night's game, Toronto comes into that game where they still had a chip on their shoulder.
Like they never went home, right?
Like they just played, Toronto just played 27 straight innings.
And so they were able to come out on top last night because I think they kind of had that, they needed that closure where after the Dodgers won on the walkoff, they were like, okay, we got some closure.
So they were kind of relaxed last night.
I think maybe whoever wins tonight wins the series.
I think it goes like that.
Now, if I'm making a prediction off of, if I'm making a prediction off of where it is now, I think whoever wins tonight wins the series, probably in six games.
So I'm going to go with my original prediction, Dodgers in six.
Okay.
Well, thanks, Ewan.
Appreciate what you do.
Love the show.
Thanks for calling.
Hey, Owen, Bill from Arizona.
What's up, Bill?
Hey, this whole two-party system has been abused that we're using right now.
I honestly believe with the founding fathers warning us about this, we just need to get rid of both of these big parties and just let people actually think and choose a party.
There's plenty of others.
Or, like, do you just get rid of parties, period?
You know, do you just have no parties and just say you're a candidate, express your values, express your issues, and run as just a candidate and the issues that you represent?
Now, this is all probably never going to happen, but I don't know.
Maybe that's a solution.
It could be.
We need something because this mobocracy of two parties, team A, and team B, makes people pick.
And I guarantee you, half the people don't even agree with 100% of their party.
Oh, I would say that's almost a guarantee.
I would say that's almost a guarantee.
And then like this whole government shutdown thing.
It just becomes this political football game, finger pointing, blaming the other party, a bunch of lazy bums, not doing anything, and then blaming the other party when nothing gets done.
Exactly.
And I think possibly one final solution could be more people just leave these two big parties and join like the Libertarian Party.
And an example would be like if the race is so close that the third party people actually matter.
And then you could say, all right, the Libertarians are going to side with the Republicans this time, or vice versa.
So that is such a long shot.
I don't think it's impossible, but I think it would have to go, it would have to go something like this.
And you already kind of have some of the pieces in place.
I think you have the right political environment to do it.
You kind of just talked about that.
I think we have the right political environment, whether you want to say it's a third-party rise or just an alternative option, let's say.
We don't even need to put a name on it.
So, okay, so you've got the political environment.
You've got the desire for people looking for something else.
You've got the moneyman, Elon Musk, okay?
You've got the moneyman.
Musk wants to start the American party.
Musk is disenfranchised by the two-party system.
So Musk is now kind of in that same bed with us of, you know what, neither party represents the people.
Okay, so you've got the environment.
You've got the moneyman.
Now you need the candidate.
You need the candidate that has the name recognition.
You need the candidate that has the charisma, the energy, the gravitas, the popularity to actually compete with the two parties in a presidential election.
And then once if you can do that, if you can get an alternative party or an alternative candidate not in the two parties to win a presidential election, then you can go down ballot.
Then you can kind of control things down ballot from that, whether that's through Republicans or Democrats or a third-party option.
So I think that that's how it's going to have to go.
I don't know if we're ready for that.
I don't know.
Honestly, if Musk wants to take that shot, he might take it in 2028 if he thinks that the stars are aligned for that.
But I do think some of the stars are starting to align.
And the truth of the matter is, most people now, it seems like the farther we get into the American political cycle, the more people become disenfranchised with both sides, and the more people are sick of both sides, and the more people are desperate to get an alternative option.
So that does seem to be this inevitable reality that eventually people are going to be so desperate to just sick of Republicans, sick of Democrats, to just find anybody out there that doesn't have an RRD behind their name.
I think it's inevitable.
It's just a matter of when.
Yeah, I would love to see a trial run during the midterms just to see if there's that enough of a it would have to be during a presidential.
It would have to be during a presidential.
So I'd say the soonest you'd maybe get that opportunity is 2028.
Maybe Musk with an America Party.
I don't know.
I like the way it sounds, the way you worded it.
I'm in.
Yeah, well, that'd have to be how it goes.
And then it's just a matter of who wants to be that guy, who can be that guy.
And then the only downfall would be the primaries, taking advantage of selecting who in the Republican Party is up there.
So by joining another party, you can't vote in the primaries unless you're a Democrat and you cheat.
Yeah, well, there's always workarounds for that.
Those solutions will figure themselves out.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Jill from Arkansas.
All right, Jill, go ahead.
Well, I don't see the political system turning around anytime soon, as long as we rely on donors.
So basically, all your candidates end up being bought and paid for.
I like that.
We need massive political funding reform, political donation reform.
That is true.
We need it.
I don't know what I think there's a lot of creative ways to do it.
And it's tough when you're a true free market person and you're a true small government person.
You kind of run into the obstacle of, okay, well, I can't really do that without laws, right?
I can't really do that without writing new legislation and getting the government involved, which I hate.
But at the same time, it's like, yeah, there needs to be reform when it comes to political campaign contributions.
I don't know what the answer is.
Maybe corporations shouldn't be allowed to donate.
Maybe we take the personal donation maximum and cap it at like 2,000 so that every American can at least have a shot and the billionaires don't get to control it.
I don't know.
These are some of the ideas that come to my head.
But I do think that political funding campaign donations, I think we need massive reform there.
And I think that that would be one solution to start to clean up the system.
I feel like that won't happen until we outlaw lobbying in Washington because all of the politicians that do get elected continue to be bought and paid for throughout their term.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
So it's just frustrating.
And then big corporations have laws, you know, to let little businesses compete, but they don't enforce the laws that they have on the books.
So I don't know what the answer is, but it's just all very disheartening.
Yeah, it's another one.
It's like, okay, well, what do you do?
How do you get rid of the lobbyists?
How do you get rid of it?
Because some people would argue that you have to keep it legal so that you can have oversight of it.
Because if you make it illegal, it's going to become more corrupted.
So, I mean, maybe there's a fair concern there, but I think we've kind of crossed that Rubicon of it's already so corrupted that it can't get any more corrupted than it already is.
So you might as well try something else.
Thank you for the call.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
My name's Deputy Dan.
I'm from Richmond, Virginia.
All right, Deputy, go ahead.
Hey, I don't know if I'm on air right now, but I just want to talk about the government, what we're talking about, what we're wasting money on, and seeing how we can do to fix it.
You are on air right now.
Oh, geez.
Well, I don't know what to say.
I'm honored to hear that I'm on air with y'all.
And I just want to say that there's a lot to say.
Where do we start from here?
How do you feel about the government shutdown?
Well, I don't know what to say.
As long as they get paid, as long as they get their honest days working, that's all I can say.
I mean, the boys, they deserve their own affairs pay.
I mean, if I put it on a stay of fair working, then I deserve an honest fair say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you don't get too much.
I ain't trying to give you any type of controversial cakes.
Well, you got to have something controversial.
Well, yeah, you don't want to get you a little controversial.
Let's see.
How do you feel about the frogs?
Which ones?
Oh, which frogs?
I mean, I got some frogs.
I got some frogs in my backyard that make a lot of noise at night, but I kind of like it.
It's kind of soothing.
I think it helps me sleep even.
I mean, yeah, hell, if they make you get a fair way sleeping, I mean, hell, it doesn't matter if they're boy or girl.
They just make you sleep.
I can't even find them half the time.
They're so small.
I don't know where they are.
I have a little pond in my backyard.
Every once in a while, I'll actually see, I'll actually find the frogs making the noise, but usually it's just like an invisible noise.
It's like a mystery.
Where is it coming from?
Where are you making this racket?
But every once in a while, I find them.
Say hello.
Give him a little pat on the head.
You know, let them know we're all friends.
Next caller, what's your name?
Where are you from?
Hey, how are you doing, Owen?
I'm good.
Thank you.
Don't forget from Orange County.
All right.
Go ahead.
Your favorite ranter.
I'm just kidding.
My favorite ranter.
Yeah, your favorite ranter.
That's now you got to live up to that.
All right.
Go ahead.
Oh, hell no, man.
You're the one.
Actually, you know what?
You're the one that's kind of getting.
I've actually tried to tone that down a little bit because I kind of needed to.
After going back and listening to myself, I was just like, yeah, you need to cut that down just a little bit.
Very wise.
Very wise.
Yeah, I know.
Not many people are into hearing myself talk as much as I was.
So I had to cut that out.
But yeah, I wanted to tell you something.
Something you said yesterday about people mentioning you being black pills, like, you know, going that way.
And you know what?
It just made me just think about how massively easy they control us by compartmentalizing everything with your belief and what you do in life.
And it's just all compartmentalized.
It's easy to, you're, you're no longer red-pilled, but now that you're like, your eyes are open even to more bullshit and the truth, they got to call you black pills.
It's like they got to put you somewhere in a category.
And it's just, it's just so crazy how everything is out in the open and how how we see it nowadays.
You're like, like I said, I'm going to be 60.
You're a lot younger than me.
And the fact that you're seeing it now, and it took me all this time to see it, it's pretty crazy, man, because I guess I dealt with more indoctrination as I grew up in society.
You know, the billboards and just how I never really knew how all that was subliminal and just made it in its way into my brain.
You know, but now it's like a pineal gland.
It's just like it's opened a little bit on so many things.
And where do we go from here, man?
You know, I love hearing your take on a lot of things.
And just, where do you think we go from here?
There are people now that get involved in the political discussion much younger than I do, or I did.
So that could be a factor of change.
You know, the sad, the sad, I think the, I think the best answer to your question, and this is maybe the best answer anytime something is proposed like this, the only solution is going to be found in time.
That's it.
You know, and the way the American political system works, that's what it is.
We're here for at least till the midterms, and we're probably here where we're at until at least the next presidential election.
I don't think too much is going to change.
So you kind of just stuck with that.
And then, you know, you get another chance to see what you can change, if anything, in the next round of elections.
But I think the political culture is changing rapidly.
And I think that the difference politically, the understanding, the interpretation, the attitude of older generations versus younger generations, I think that chasm is wider than it's ever been.
So I think the real big change just comes with time.
I think it just comes with time.
And I think that the kids now they're going to be voting in, let's say, 2028.
I think their interpretation of the American political system and its application and its effects, I think is a lot different than, let's say, the people that won't be voting in 2028, to put it kindly.
So I think it's just with time.
Now, I don't know.
It could be good.
It could be for better or for worse, but I think that's it.
It's just, it's just the changes are only going to come in time.
Do you think we can vote our way out of this?
I don't see it possible because I think I don't know.
I don't, I don't, the answer to that is no.
Okay.
The simple answer to that is no, we can't vote our way out of this.
But I kind of think that's like that's kind of like a lazy out.
I think it's kind of a lazy out to say that we can't vote our way out of this because, yeah, obviously you can't vote your way out of this.
I can't vote my way out of being a fat ass.
Okay.
I got to go get on a treadmill.
I got to have a diet.
Like, I got to put in the work.
So, yeah, you can't vote your way out of anything.
You have to put in the work.
But at the end of the day, elections have consequences.
And so you have to vote.
You have to vote to hopefully bring in institutional change.
And that's, again, this is the frustration.
And this is why I think it all comes in time.
This is why the left and the right are both disenfranchised.
The left votes for what they believe is going to be institutional change.
They don't get it.
The right votes for what they think is going to be institutional change.
They don't get it.
So now that just causes the extremism and the divide to widen, but it leads to the disenfranchisement.
And eventually, somebody's going to get that change candidate.
I don't know.
You might argue the only change candidate we've really ever gotten is Barack Obama.
And all those changes were obviously bad.
We were hoping to get a change agent in President Trump.
We'll see what the final results of that are.
But we haven't really had one.
We have not seen a true change agent get into the White House and actually go through with radical changes to make the country a better place.
We have not seen it.
And you could even argue, I don't even know if we've seen it on the entire planet.
And that gets into the whole political corruption on the global scale.
You could probably say the only true change candidate that this world has seen in the modern history sense is Naeb Bukele in El Salvador.
I think that's the only true agent of change candidate that we've actually seen be successful and get in and run the institutional change and then improve the country dramatically, dramatically.
You know, you might look at a Trump and say, eh, minor improvement.
You might look at a Bolsonaro, minor improvement, but you saw what they did to him.
You might look at a Malay, minor improvement.
Maybe some of these other.
It's like we have maybe some minor improvements here or there, but they get removed and all that gets reversed in the next election cycle.
I would say the only true change agent that I can point to and say, wow, that is a man or a woman, but in this case, that is a man that got elected, actually instituted massive change to his country and made it an entirely different place.
An entirely different country.
El Salvador is an entirely different country after Bukele.
And I don't think there's another president that can make that claim, not even President Trump.
I don't think Trump can make that claim.
I think Bukele is the only one that can make that claim.
So it is possible.
You know, that's the good news.
It is possible.
Now, you could argue El Salvador is a much smaller country.
It's easier to do that in.
I think that's a fair retort.
But that's still, it's been proven.
It is possible.
It can be done.
Or who knows?
Maybe 1776 worldwide.
I don't know.
All right, next caller.
What's your name?
Where are you from?
Hey, it's Josh.
I'm from Arcadia, Indiana, buddy.
All right, Josh, go ahead.
Hey, this is fantastic that you're doing your own show, brother.
This is great.
I could tell when you were on InfoWars, you were starting to come around and see what everybody else is seeing.
And it is amazing.
Well, I appreciate your kind words.
Glad that you found the show and you're enjoying it.
I think the previous caller forgot that this ain't war room anymore when he wanted to talk to the frog.
Yeah, that was a little, yeah, that was a different.
I think he kind of forgot, buddy.
I'm going to let your comment stand.
I think you said it perfectly.
I mean, I mean, he was talking to Cuck the Destroyer, but he was on the wrong cell, I believe.
But keep up the good work, brother.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
And you look like you got a side gig for the Bee Gees with that hair.
I'm kind of interested to see where it goes with this.
It only goes one direction as far as I can tell.
Can't wait.
Can't wait.
But I'm glad you're on the right side of everything, brother.
Luckily, my hair is still growing for now.
So I feel like you got to grow it while you got it.
Yeah, it's fantastic, brother.
That is fantastic.
Another thing I was going to ask, what about bringing back your Metalhead Fridays that you used to do?
Well, okay, I'll answer this.
So my channels are under like extreme scrutiny.
And every time I play music, they get dinged.
And basically, if I don't remove the music from the video, then they strike my channel.
And so that's why I've kind of laid off the music stuff and you're not really hearing like music that I wanted to do.
I wanted to have more music and kind of have that as a theme for the show, but it's not necessary and it dings the channel.
So we're kind of moving away from music that gets us dinged.
So I'm looking at non-licensed music.
I'm looking at, you know, kind of alternative, you know, I was talking about the segment you used to do with the ex-misfits guy and the ex-filter guy and all that.
You guys used to do that all the time.
Yeah.
Well, I don't, in case you, I mean, I don't really, I don't do guests on this show.
This is the Owen report.
This is me.
That's it.
So I don't really do guests on this show.
I do do guest interviews.
In fact, when I sign off here in four minutes, we're going to be talking to Brianna Sagdahl, who is a cattle rancher, well connected to the beef lobbyists, runs the beef initiative.
We're going to get an update with her on where all that stands in about 15 minutes.
So we'll work on stuff like this.
It's all about, right now, it's all about trial.
It's all about process and seeing the workload I can handle, realistically speaking, and when it's time to just say, okay, that's enough.
We need to focus on making sure the product is as good as it's ever been.
But you'll probably see some of those old guests pop back up and maybe some more thematic stuff in the future.
Well, the product's going great, brother.
And hopefully it goes fantastic for you.
And I'm glad you are speaking on behalf of the majority that sees all this bullcrap that's going on.
It is ridiculous.
That's right.
That's it right there.
That's, you know what?
That's a great way to end it.
That's a good call right there.
Good one to end it on.
Sorry to the other callers that didn't get in.
Love you.
We'll get you next time.
Before we sign off, though, because I always forget to do this, but I felt bad because we didn't have any women's shirts on the website.
And I still kind of feel bad because I think we only have one up there right now.
And that is not fair to our female audience viewers.
You guys might want the USA shirt and a women's with our USA-themed shirts.
But we do have the new shirt for the women out there.
The new shirt is available in the women's fit.
The USA versus everybody shirt, the new shirt at owenschroyer.store is available in the female fit.
All right.
So I apologize to the women.
Usually we have a usually we have female fitting shirts, and we kind of had an oversight on that.
But the female shirt is back, at least one of them for now.
We'll try to accommodate you ladies more so in the future.
We apologize for forgetting about our female audience listeners.
You're very important.
We love you.
So we do have one option for a female shirt right now.
We'll try to do better in the future.
But that is the new shirt, USA versus everybody.
And also the Wynn Network Founders Polo is available as well.
And I actually wore that shirt yesterday.
That's a one off.
That's a one exclusive because I thought I wanted a white logo.
And it turned out I actually prefer the black logo.
So that shirt I was wearing yesterday with the white logo, that's not the actual shirt.
The actual shirt has a black logo.
I determined I like the black logo better than the white logo.
And this shirt will be gone after December.
And then we're going to launch a new Wynn Network show shirt for the year, the calendar year of 2026.
I think that's probably what we're going to do.
We're going to have a Wynn Network themed polo, a new one every year.
So this is the one for this year, the launching year.
And then we're going to have a new one that launches in 2026.
So if you like that one, that'll be available until the new year at owenschroyer.store.
And there you go.
Appreciate everybody tuning in today.
Appreciate the callers.
Appreciate the people giving our sponsors a shout out today as well.
Today's sponsor was Blackout Coffee, blackoutcoffee.com/slash Owen.
Use coupon code Owen for 20% off your first order.
And I sign off the Owen report for now, but I'll be back in about 10, 15 minutes with Breonna Sagdahl to talk about the news when it comes to Trump and the bailout of the Argentina beef industry.
What's going on with beef in the United States?
That's all coming up in 15 minutes.
I'll sign off this, start a new stream.
We'll go for about 30 minutes with her, give you an update on that.