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Dec. 26, 2024 - Owen Shroyer Live
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OSL 92 - About Last Night...MAGA Wars Begin
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Oh ho and Merry Christmas, ladies and gentlemen.
Owen Schroyer Live episode 92.
About last night, the MAGA wars have begun.
But let's go to my 2024 Christmas song of the year.
This one by Nat King Cole.
Oh, come all ye faithful.
And then we've got a special post-Christmas broadcast for you this afternoon.
Oh, come all ye faithful.
Joyful and triumphants.
Oh come.
Oh, come to my whole him on the key of angels.
Oh, come let us adore him.
Oh, come let us adore him.
Oh, come let us law.
Sing choirs of angels, sing in exultation O sing all ye citizens of heaven above Glory to
God, all glory in the highest Oh, come let us adore him.
Oh, come let us adore him.
O come, let us adore Him, Christ the Lord.
O come, let us adore Him, Christ the Lord.
Well, Merry Christmas, everybody.
And it's it's a fun time.
It always is a fun time on Christmas.
I hope everybody had a great time with family and friends and loved ones, and perhaps even strangers.
You know, sometimes you meet somebody new, sometimes strangers can bring you a merry Christmas as well.
So I know I enjoyed family and friends and good tidings all around.
And since yesterday was Christmas Day and obviously Christmas Eve, the day before, I didn't want to be Grinchy.
I didn't want to be Grinchy.
And so I've been just very positive, pro-Christmas, positivity the last couple days, but I don't know if I'm feeling so nicey anymore.
I don't know if I'm feeling so nicey.
And I do have the Christmas spirit still.
I do have the Christmas spirit.
I got a little Christmas hat I might put on later with some other hats.
And I say Merry Christmas to everybody in my audience tonight.
Albert, always good to have you in the audience.
Everybody else, the regulars, any newcomers as well, as we're streaming live on Rumble and X. But something happened last night that cannot be ignored, and it's very important.
And I figured it was worth me coming on here and explaining to people and putting my two cents in exactly what happened last night.
And I'll kind of go down the list.
We'll be live for maybe about an hour or so here.
I'll kind of go down the list on what we're going to talk about today.
We're going to talk about what I'm calling MAGA Wars.
And this is the different divisions.
And this is the different politics, ideologies, whatever, all these different factions that are starting to break off inside the MAGA movement that elected Donald Trump, which was a big tent populist movement.
And for whatever reason, last night, Christmas Day, is when you really started to see some of the fractioning and some of the infighting and some of the debates.
So we're going to talk about that.
We're going to talk about what happened last night.
And I'll tell you right now, the two big issues, the two big issues that MAGA wars are really going to center around are going to be immigration, mostly legal immigration or work visas or the HB one visas, Basically, importing foreign workers for big tech jobs, mostly.
But any jobs, it'll expand past that.
And then two, Israel.
These are going to be the two big issues that the MAGA wars are going to center upon, Immigration and Israel.
So we're going to talk about those two things.
And then we're going to talk about something else that I've really witnessed yesterday.
We'll do a specific thing I witnessed yesterday.
You may have witnessed it too when we were watching the first ever NFL Christmas special on Netflix.
And we're going to talk about what this means for American culture, Christian culture, Caucasian culture, and then kind of the impact of all of it.
And then I'm going to address something that everybody is getting wrong.
And that is the woke right.
You're likely familiar with this term by now, the woke right.
But everybody's getting it wrong.
Nobody really understands what the woke right really means.
And it was actually, I don't know who originally coined it, but the purpose for it being coined has been completely misleading.
And now that it's a term that's kind of in everybody's political lexicon, we might as well apply it accurately.
And so we're going to talk about what the woke right means, what it really represents.
I will be telling you that everybody else is missing it.
And of course, I'll be explaining it logically, reasonably, why this is what it really represents and why everybody else is getting it wrong.
So that's what we have coming up in the next half hour or so.
We'll be on here for about an hour or so.
Who knows?
Maybe I'll read some comments in the chat.
Maybe we'll even open up the phone lines.
Uh, but that's the plan forward right now.
And of course, we are coming to you as always through the Owen.gold microphone.
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Let me start with this.
Let me start with this.
Now, I'm not the biggest history buff.
I did well in history in school.
Every once in a while, I'll read some historical literature.
And of course, I'm very close with Alex Jones, who I follow, work for, he's very good historical knowledge.
I learned a lot from him, a lot of the other broadcasters, talk show hosts, podcasters, what have you that are really good with history.
I follow a lot of their work, study a lot of their work.
So that's kind of where my historical analysis uh background foundation comes from.
I'm not some big scholar into history, um, but I always did well in history in school.
It's always interested me, and I just continue to kind of learn more things along the way.
But if you don't understand or appreciate the revolutionary war that the United States colonies breaking free of the British Empire, if you don't understand that,
and you don't understand all the different battles, the significance Of all the battles, then it's really hard to even fathom what it means to be an American or how important America is to the world.
Because it's not just about what we do to influence the world today.
It's still more about 1776.
Now, why do I bring this up?
Well, one of the, if not the most important moments of the Revolutionary War, most revolutionary war historians would probably tell you that the most important moment was actually Christmas Eve when George Washington,
with two other would-be presidents, James Madison and James Monroe, crossed the Delaware River on Christmas Eve on bitter cold freezing temperatures that shocked the British forces and changed the entire outcome of the Revolutionary War.
The colonists were getting their butt kicked.
The colonists had no momentum.
The Revolutionary War soldiers were losing morale.
They were losing hope.
Even from the international community, I'm talking bullets, guns, just soldiers.
So things were things were going the wrong way.
They were going south fast.
And it was basically a make or break moment where George Washington decided to take his men across the Delaware River on Christmas Eve, the logic being that the British Army and its support would never see it coming.
They wouldn't expect there to be a Christmas Eve, Christmas Day incursion, which was accurate.
And so those men crossed the Delaware River in bitter cold, deadly cold temperatures.
And keep in mind, this is before you had modern day winter wear technology and all the equipment in the military to fight in bitter cold.
They didn't really have it.
A lot of these men didn't even have shoes.
So we're talking frostbite.
By the time they got into a battle, they were numb.
So why do I bring this up?
The formation of America was not easy.
It was an extremely difficult challenge that a lot of men had to make revolutionary decisions and commit to pain, commit to brutality.
And even in the face of total defeat, they were still able to win because of that commitment.
So why do I bring that up?
Well, not just because it's Christmas time, and that story is from Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, but because we're in a similar moment now.
And it's not going to be easy to save America and make it the standard for freedom and prosperity for the world yet again.
It's going to be difficult.
There are going to be challenges.
There are people that are going to take risks.
There were there's going to be debate.
You don't think there was debate with George Washington?
Do we really want to cross the Delaware River when it's freezing cold and we have no supplies?
We're dwindling on morale, and you want to take these men on Christmas Eve, they could die, and you want to take them.
You don't think there was a debate there?
Of course there was.
There's always going to be a debate, and there's always going to have to be decisions that get made to make America.
So that's where we're at today.
Now, what is MAGA wars?
MAGA wars are a lot of what you just saw Christmas Day.
And again, I was in the Christmas spirit, and I wasn't, I wasn't trying to be Grinchy.
I was being all nicey on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day.
So I didn't even weigh in on some of these debates.
But it is funny that Christmas Day, for those that pay attention, and maybe it's worth mentioning too, that the real world is still not X. And even though X is very significant and impactful on the real world, the real world is still not X. But having said that, the people that do exist on X and very actively noticed that Christmas Day, the MAGA wars began.
Christmas Day 2024, the MAGA wars really Began.
And it's the debates over immigration, specifically HB1s and foreign workers coming in.
And it's also on the issue of Israel.
And it really, really hit, I think it's breaking point that now there's going to be factions breaking off of the MAGA movement in support, not in support of each of these issues.
And there will be many more, but these are the two big ones.
So anybody who was on X last night noticed and knows exactly what I'm talking about.
And yeah, the two big spearheads right now are V Vake and Elon Musk, who are very pro-immigration and want to bring in foreign workers.
Now, for the sake of this conversation, let me just come into this from the neutral perspective.
I don't think inherently what it is that they're arguing or proposing is anti-American or even anti-let's say logic and reasoning when it comes to success, success and prosperity.
Now, having said that, there's there's another aspect of this.
And this is really where I put the most weight as far as my takes and my considerations, how I deal with this issue.
My family, the Schroyers, have been in this land since the 1600s.
And I just so happened to be lucky enough that I had a great aunt who went and did all of the leg work.
I mean, literally went around the country, courthouses, record keeping facilities.
They would have to crowbar in to some of these courthouses and record keeping facilities.
They'd have to crowbar in because nobody'd been in there in decades or even centuries.
They'd crowbar into these things and plumes of dust would go flying.
And that was just my great Aunt June, God bless her soul.
And so she did this all around the country.
She had binders of the Schroyer heritage and background and everything.
It was just crazy.
So I just happened to know, I just happen to know a lot of my uh family heritage and a lot of my lineage because of my great Aunt June just documenting it.
Um the Schroyers have been here since the 1600s.
I don't I won't go into all the background, but but what I'm saying is I could understand the argument.
I don't, I don't, I don't have the vitriol, I think that others might have in response to the idea that we need to bring in a bunch of Indians or bring in a bunch of foreign workers to work these jobs.
Now, obviously, the American says, well, hold on, you just want to bring in cheap labor.
You know you can pay these foreigners half the price as you pay Americans, and you can work them doubly as much.
That doesn't help America.
You could argue it helps these corporations, but you could easily find Americans to do those jobs.
You would just have to pay them more and they wouldn't work as many hours because that's just what we expect in our culture.
So that's why the billionaire class once that has all these different manufacturing endeavors, production endeavors, tech endeavors, that's why they want to bring in the foreign workers.
So you can understand that.
There's a level of capitalism to that.
And it's undeniable that immigration and productive immigration has been a part of America's history.
That's just true.
Not only has the Schroyer name been here since the 1600s, I have many immigrants in my family as well.
I have immigrants from Sweden that have that are part of my family.
We have their immigration paper.
So there have been immigrants, and they come here and they contribute.
They don't suck off the system, they don't live off the welfare state, they come with a dream, they come with a with a goal, they come with the talent skills that they bring, and they can they can add to our economy.
Now, there's one way to divert this.
If you're going to be sending money to your foreign country, and this is a huge problem, and Trump talked about this briefly in his first four years, but we need him to do it again.
If you're going to come here and work because the dollar is so strong, and then you're going to send money back to your home country, whatever home country that may be, it needs to be taxed.
I mean, honestly, this might be a little heavy.
I would tax it at 25%.
I would tax that money at 25%.
Whatever money you make here, and you send it back to your family in Mexico or India, anywhere in the world, I would tax it at 25%.
25%.
So if you're going to come here and take advantage of our economy and take jobs from Americans, then you're going to be taxed 25% on every penny that you send back overseas to your family.
So that that's a way to kind of balance this out.
I don't hear that conversation be had enough.
But let me get back to where I'm coming from.
So I can I can take it from a neutral standpoint and understand why big tech billionaires, big manufacturing, industry, production billionaires, whatever, want the HB one visa and want to bring in foreign workers.
And again, I'm not inherently anti-immigrant, but you know, you have to be you have to be fluid.
When is it good?
When is it bad?
So we can have this debate.
It's healthy to have this debate, but here's where I'm coming from.
My family has been here for hundreds of years.
I have on both sides of my family military men who put their name on the dotted line, who fought in wars.
That's who I'm standing for.
This is not about me necessarily or the rest of my family's lineage.
This is about the men in my family that built this country, that signed their names on the dotted line for this country, that raised families in this country, and really held up the culture, which was once the greatest culture in the world for this country for decades, four generations.
That's where I'm coming from.
I take this stand for the American men and women who built this country and made its cultural values into the greatest country on earth.
Now we'll get back into that in more detail coming up with the next subject of discussion.
But that's where I'm coming from.
Because if if you think, well, hey, sure, it makes more sense.
Sure, it's capitalism, whatever you want to say.
If you're a billionaire, yeah, I'm gonna bring in foreign workers, I'm gonna pay them half, and I'm gonna work them double.
Okay.
I understand that.
I can understand that logic.
As long as I understand the logic where somebody is coming from, then I can deal with it in a rational manner.
So I get the logic, but but my logic is no.
No, Americans come first in America, period.
Americans come first in America.
Why shouldn't the son of a military man get favoritism in America over a foreign worker?
Tell me why.
What, because a billionaire wants to make more money.
Sorry, I'm a capitalist, but I'm also pro-America.
You can be both.
You can be both.
And it's very easy to have pro-America and pro-capitalist policy.
So, yeah, I believe that Americans should be favored.
And I believe that Americans who have lived here for generations, who have backgrounds of military men, some who have died, some who have sacrificed everything, some who have been here for multiple generations, hundreds of years.
Yes, I believe those Americans, 100% should get better treatment than a foreign worker.
I don't think that should be considered controversial at all.
In fact, I think that should be the gold standard.
So, yes, America first, America always, America only.
So, no, I don't like this idea that the son of a military veteran, that the son of a family who's been in America for hundreds of years or daughter can be skipped over for cheap labor from a foreign country from a foreigner who's gonna send that money back home to their country anyway without an exceedingly high tax rate.
I don't think that's anti-capitalist policy.
I think that's pro-America policy.
And this debate is not going anywhere.
And I think if you if you if you paid attention last night on X to this commentary going on, You'll see that Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk are not very popular on their takes with this.
They're not.
And I'll get into some specific examples coming up of where I think they're wrong, because again, I think they're just thinking pragmatically.
I think they're thinking pragmatically.
They're representing the super rich class that wants cheap labor for half the cost with double the hours.
That's all it is.
I understand the logic.
Totally get it.
But I've got my logic too.
And I don't think it's anti-capitalist.
I don't think it's anti-free market.
I don't think it's anti-prosperity to say no.
Americans that are born in America, multi-generation Americans, the sons, the daughters of veterans, they should always get, they should always have the upper hand in this country.
Always.
And I don't think that should be controversial at all.
That should be the standard.
That should be the standard.
And what I've what I see, most people agree with this take.
They may not come from the same logic or reasoning that I have right here, but they agree that this is the way.
And maybe maybe I should pull up the Vivek Ramaswamy tweet now.
And then a couple other, a couple other, I guess do we still call them tweets and a couple other tweets that are going viral in this conversation, or at least I think are uh smart.
And and and let's just be clear, you know.
This is this is actually kind of classic Christmas, if you think about it, because my family over Christmas can debate politics heatedly, heatedly, and still clink glasses at the end of the night and still break bread the next morning.
So I kind of it's kind of classic Christmas tradition, let's say, for this MAGA family is we're going at it hard on these issues, but hey, we can still cheers each other on a nightcap.
We can still wake up and break bread the next morning.
It's okay.
I still like Vivek Ramaswamy.
I still like Elon Musk, but I disagree with them wholeheartedly on this issue.
And I will, and I will fight them on this issue, and I will not give an inch on this issue.
So it's kind of like classic Christmas when you could actually just fight and debate, but then clink glasses, break bread, and say, okay, you know, live and let live.
But this is this is something Vivek Ramaswamy said, and I don't want to read the whole thing because it's so long-winded, but we'll just briefly look at it here.
And it obviously got a lot of response.
The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born and first-generation engineers over Native Americans, people that are born in America, I'm assuming is what he means there, or American citizens, isn't because of innate American IQ deficit, a lazy and wrong explanation.
A key part of it comes down to the C-word, culture.
Tough questions demand tough answers.
And if we're really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the truth.
So then he gets into this mediocrity thing and how it's a culture of mediocrity.
And while there is the there, again, there's an element of truth to that, but this is this is improperly applied, I think, to this conversation.
I don't think this applies to this debate.
You know, it's the participation awards generation that he's kind of using for this debate, but I don't think that's applicable.
And so he goes on and he says, a culture that venerates Corey from Boy Meets World or Zach and Slater over Screech and Saved by the Bell, or Stefan over Steve Urkel and Family Matters will not produce the best engineers.
So let's just pause it right there.
First of all, these are TV shows that actually promoted good culture.
These are TV shows.
If you go back and watch these TV shows he just mentioned from the 90s, and then you watch some of the TV that they put out for kids now, folks, the TV they put out for kids now promotes promiscuity, uh, promotes drug abuse, promotes degenerative behavior.
All the shows that he just mentioned promoted wholesomeness, promoted family, even promoted God.
So don't bring culture into this.
This is not a cultural issue.
And if you want to talk about culture, our culture was much stronger and much prouder and much more wholesome when those shows were on TV compared to what's on TV now.
So don't give me that.
But here's where the real miss is.
This is not about culture.
This is about policy.
This is about leadership.
That's what this is about.
This is about policy and leadership that took production and manufacturing out of the inner cities and shipped it overseas.
This is about policy and culture that took good paying, livable wage production jobs, manufacturing jobs out of the inner cities and brought in planned parenthood and abortion.
This is about a culture that got rid of Nat King Cole and brought in Jay-Z.
If you want to talk about culture.
No, this is about leadership that destroyed our education system.
This is about leadership that now has eighth graders graduating, barely even reading at an eighth grade level.
High schoolers graduating that probably couldn't even have graduated 20, 30 years ago.
People getting into college that don't belong there, bringing the entire institution down academically.
That's what this is really about.
This isn't about culture or mediocrity or participation trophies.
No, this is about policy and leadership.
You can turn all of it around.
You can turn all of it around if you have good policy and leadership again.
You actually bring manufacturing jobs back to the city, give Americans an opportunity for a living wage and prosperity and freedom.
You actually bring good leadership to the education system again, have them graduating with academic abilities and skills like they should, like they used to, then none of this is a problem.
So I don't buy that culture thing for a second.
I don't buy the culture thing for a second.
Oh, we got cultural problems.
I'm not denying that.
We certainly have cultural problems.
But to sit here and pretend like Americans are incapable of holding positions that foreign workers can come in and take, that's just ridiculous and inherently wrong, in my opinion.
There was one more I wanted to read here, but maybe I'll just skip over it for the sake of time.
But no, it's not about culture in this regard.
It's about policy and leadership.
It's about policy when it comes to manufacturing, when it comes to taxes, corporate taxes, and then it's about leadership in the education system.
So education, education has gone down because of government involvement, liberal leadership, and because of policies in Washington, D.C. that have shipped all the jobs out of the country, that's the problem.
And by the way, let's think about this before we move on to the next issue.
The same logic, the same logic that Musk and Ramaswamy are using right now in their approach to HB1 visas and foreign workers.
That is the same logic applied politically that shipped all of our jobs and manufacturing and production overseas.
And how is that done for the country?
Same logic.
Same exact logic.
Has shipping, manufacturing and production to foreign countries helped the United States of America or hurt the United States of America.
It's that same logic they're applying now, saying we have to bring in foreign workers.
It's better for us.
It's better for the bottom line.
It's capitalism.
It's the same logic, and it will have the same result.
It will have the exact same result that shipping all of our jobs and manufacturing and production overseas did.
It will have the same result.
And that's the bottom line that we should be learning from here and studying here.
Now, again, as far as immigration is concerned, I think this is something that's malleable.
This is something that's fluid.
But I think right now, given the current circumstances, we should not accept a single immigrant until we deport all the immigrants that came in under Joe Biden.
And you know, I was having some interesting conversations about this actually over Christmas, and I think we do have to be logical.
But I would say, I would say it needs to go like this.
Every illegal immigrant under Joe Biden has to be deported.
Every single one under Joe Biden has to be deported.
And every single illegal immigrant in this country that has committed a crime, a violent crime, an on record crime, because when you cross the border legally, it's a crime anyway.
So you'd you kind of get into the morass of it all.
But any illegal immigrant that has committed a crime, they have to go.
So that has to be your just before you bring in another immigrant, every single one coming in under Joe Biden deported, every single one that's committed a crime in this country, deported.
Then we can maybe start talking about foreign workers and immigrants.
And it's really too bad because a lot of people have been waiting in line to become citizens for a long time.
And they've done the paperwork and they've gone through the legal process.
And we can respect that.
But this is why the issue of immigration has to be fluid, and this is why policy from both sides, Democrat and Republican, over the years has constantly been changing and fluctuating and policy application constantly different because it's a it's a constantly changing issue.
And so right now where it stands, no more immigrants until every single one coming in under Joe Biden has been deported, and every single one that has committed a crime while in this country also deported.
That's where I would stand.
And then maybe we can talk about immigrants and foreign workers.
Talk about it.
But you can't bring in a single another immigrant or foreign worker until you actually bring in the people that have been waiting in line for years to come in.
for years.
And I would say you apply something because there are millions that have lived in this country basically their whole life.
They've never been citizens.
They've been here illegally their whole life.
And I would put out basically a notice to them saying, look, if you've been in this country and you haven't committed a crime and you want to become a citizen, you have to go turn yourself in right now.
Right now.
And if you can prove that you've contributed to our country, paid your taxes, raise children, whatever, then we can put you in the line to become a citizen.
But you have to go turn yourself in.
And I'm not even saying that necessarily means you get deported or get detained, but you have to go on the system, you have to go into the system, and you have to get in line to become an immigrant just like everybody else.
And if you're not willing to do that, then you will get deported.
And then it's your fault.
It's all on you.
So that's kind of the larger issue of immigration.
But more importantly, it's going to be about the foreign workers and deporting.
That's what the big debate is going to be about.
Foreign workers and deporting.
So let's move on then to the next big issue in the MAGA wars.
So the first is going to be immigration, foreign workers, and deportations.
That's going to be the first big issue that we're starting to see some divide here.
But it's pretty clear.
No, no foreign workers, America first.
And we have to do mass deportations.
This just has to be done.
If we if we really want to have a Make America a great agenda, and if we really want to have a make America great again results, then that's what has to be done.
Has to be done, period.
Has to be done that way.
Now, here's going to be the second big divide.
And this one has been brewing and growing for quite some time.
And that is the Israel issue.
Now, where to begin with this?
I think it's probably worth starting to kind of get some of the reactionaries out of the way.
What you see is, and this logic cannot be applied universally.
So remember, what do I say?
If it cannot be applied universally, it's not logic, it's propaganda.
So this is propaganda, it's not logic.
This idea that you can't be critical of Israel or Israel's government or Israel's military without being anti-Semitic is illogical and they lie.
It's propaganda.
I go on air nearly every day, and I am critical of the United States of America's government.
I'm critical of our president.
I'm critical of our Congress.
Hell, I'm even critical of our people.
But I never get called anti-American because I'm not.
So why doesn't that same logic apply to Israel?
Why can't I be critical of Israel's military or Israel's leadership or Israel's government or Israel's foreign policy without being considered anti-Semitic?
I don't get it.
Because it's propaganda.
And let's play the whole game.
Let's play the whole game of I'm not anti-Semitic.
I love Jewish people.
I can bring on my Jewish friends and they can tell you I'm not anti-Semitic.
I grew up with Jewish people in my life and Jewish friends and neighbors, and oh, okay, like, all right, we got that all out of the way, right?
We're not anti-Semites here.
Has nothing.
You you can see that, and that's exactly what I'm saying.
I can be critical of all these different groups, but it's never brought, it's never brought into some larger paradigm of, oh, you're against them.
So, no, you can be critical of Israel.
You can be critical of Israel's leadership, Israel's government, Israel's military.
That does not make you anti-Semitic.
And anybody that accuses you of that does that because they're losing the argument and they have something else up their sleeve, and they're trying to propagandize you.
And by the way, you're not even getting the reality of the story in Israel.
Israel is very divided.
The country is not fully behind Netanyahu.
Much of the country is angry at Netanyahu because they believe Netanyahu has put Israel in a more dangerous position and predicament in the world stage than it's ever been in before.
People are fleeing Israel.
You're not hearing that in the American media, because most of it's bought and paid for by Israel or run by Israel first Jews.
No, people are fleeing Israel because they're scared to death that Netanyahu is going to get Israel attacked and bombed with his psychotic behavior.
So you're not getting that.
You're not getting that in the American media, but that's what's actually going on.
But see, it's beyond even perhaps the cultural debates or the geopolitical debates.
And it really just comes down to, I think, basic America first policy.
Yet again, just like the issue of immigration and HB1 visas, the issue of Israel will always come down to me to an America-first policy situation.
We give way too much money to Israel.
We give way too much foreign policy support to Israel.
Israel gets the most favorable treatment in our country, even more so than America does.
Israel is allowed to buy our Congress on both sides of the aisle.
They own the Democrats, they own the Republicans, and they don't have to register as a foreign lobby under the Pharaoh Act for some reason.
I don't know, probably because they own your Congress.
And so that's why Israel gets put first, because they own your Congress.
Period.
So this isn't really even about how you feel about Israel, whether you love or hate Israel, has nothing to do with Jewish People at all.
It's America first policy that we shouldn't be spending all this money on Israel.
And maybe and maybe even more so.
You can debate which is more important.
But maybe even more so that we don't support Israel with our foreign policy because that puts us in more danger.
Iran is not a threat to America.
The Middle Eastern countries are not a threat to America.
None of these radical Islamic jihadists are a threat to the United States of America.
And the only reason they might be or would be or are, is because we support Israel.
Because they know if their enemy is Israel, if the radical Muslim world's enemy is Israel or Jews, well, guess what?
When they look behind the curtain, who's supporting them?
Who's giving them weapons?
Who's giving them money?
Who's supporting them on the world stage?
It's America.
So that's why they come after us.
Now, I don't even want to get into the whole 9-11 thing.
But that's where the whole war on radical Islamic terrorism began.
That's when it became modern American culture, modern American politics, foreign policy.
It all stemmed from 9-11.
Please tell me you don't believe that the story we were told about 9-11 was true.
Hopefully, you've at least matured enough to question that.
But that's what it's all about.
So we shouldn't be funding Israel because it's not America first.
And we shouldn't be supporting Israel in our foreign policy because it hurts us on the international stage, and it makes more people our enemy that normally would not be.
And it puts our people at risk.
And many times it has forced our people to go overseas into the Middle East and fight and die for wars that we would have nothing to do with if it wasn't for our greatest ally, Israel.
And don't even get me started on the greatest ally lie that we've been told.
But see, we go back to the beginning.
You can't even talk like this.
That's anti-Semitic.
No, it's not.
It's not anti-Semitic at all.
That's a real geopolitical breakdown, commentary, and debate on foreign policy.
That's what it is.
Has nothing to do with anti-Semitism.
But see, that's what shows when they always respond with that's anti-Semitic.
That's what shows you they're desperate.
They need you, and their only way of bringing you to heel on the issue is to insult you and call you anti-Semitic.
And so maybe that should bring us to this whole woke right thing that I'm seeing.
What do you always hear from the left, the woke left?
Oh, you don't support trans kids, you're transphobic.
You don't support men going into women's bathrooms, you're transphobic.
You don't support gay marriage or gay couples adopting kids, you're homophobic.
You don't support black lives matter or free money and reparations for black people.
You're racist.
Everyone would agree that that is the woke left, correct?
That is woke left.
Well, so what is woke right?
Woke right are the people that call you an anti-Semite.
That's the real woke right.
Think about it.
Supporting Israel, or more specifically, supporting the plight of Jewish people, that is woke right.
Israel and Jews are black lives matter and fighting racism.
Fighting anti-Semitism is what fighting racism is to the left.
Fighting anti-Semitism is woke right.
Supporting the poor Jews, supporting Israel, that's woke right.
Don't let anybody tell you otherwise.
So all these different things about woke right and it's kind of being tossed around and it's kind of hung out over here and then it's kind of hung out over here.
No, let's let's let's settle this thing now.
Let's put this thing in cement now.
Let's bury this thing now.
Let's put the sign on the ground and let it stand.
Woke right are the people that are fighting anti-Semitism.
They are the woke right.
Fighting anti-Semitism is for the right, what fighting racism is for the left.
You are the woke right.
If you're sitting here fighting anti-Semitism, fighting for Israel, putting the Israel flag in your bio in your name, you are the woke right.
Israel is black lives matter for conservatives.
Jews are blacks for conservatives.
So that is the woke right.
So you see what they've done?
They've twisted the reality here, which makes it even more woke.
Which makes it even more woke, how they twist the reality.
And somehow, if you want to have an America first policy or you want to decouple from Israel, that you're woke right.
No, that's that's that's wokism right there is flipping the reality.
Oh, a man can get pregnant.
Oh, that's woke.
Oh, if you don't support Israel, you don't support America.
That's woke.
So the woke right is actually people that fight anti-Semitism.
The woke right are the people that put the Israel flag in their bio.
Let's just, let's just make that perfectly clear.
That's the woke right.
And they've been brainwashed into this feeling, just like the woke left has been brainwashed into their feelings.
So whenever you see woke right and it being used the wrong way, always correct the record.
Israel is like slavery for the right.
The left, the woke left always fighting slavery, fighting reparations, the damage from slavery.
Yeah, okay.
So that's woke left.
Woke right is everybody that fights anti-Semitism.
Everybody that stands up for Israel and all Jews to fight anti-Sismitism.
That is woke right.
So let's just, let's just permanently build the foundation so that people understand what the woke right is.
It is nothing else.
It doesn't make sense in any other context.
That's what it is.
So you're woke left, you fight homophobia, transphobia, and racism.
If you're woke right, you fight anti-Semitism.
That's your woke right.
Now this leads me to probably the final level of this.
And this is a more personal level, and this probably is the deepest level, I think as well.
And anybody that knows me knows there are certain paths that I don't like to go down.
There are certain commentary I don't like to engage in, either because I just don't care enough, I don't see it as an issue, or I do generally try to cater my message to be as palatable for the largest audience possible on things that we can all agree on.
And that's how it should be.
Because I do believe most people want the same thing.
And I do believe at the end of the day, most of us, if not all of us, have more in common than we don't.
And I do believe we can all together build a better future, build a better country.
I do believe that.
So I try to make my message to do that.
I don't shy from disagreement.
I don't shy from controversy, but at the end of the day, I'm saying, hey, we all want to be prosperous, we all want to be happy, we all want to be free, we all want the government out of our lives, we all want to get rid of these wars and corrupt politicians.
And so let's just get let's get that done.
These things that should be easy for us to all corral around, these things that the corrupt establishment and all these different groups want to divert you from and divide and conquer you from.
I don't want to be a part of that.
I don't want to be a part of the divide and conquer.
I want to be the part of the unite and prosper.
So I don't usually talk like this.
But I I can't help, I cannot help but do this now.
Because of what I really saw, I would say, over this Christmas holiday.
And let me be clear.
I love this life so much.
I love all the people I'm surrounded by and supported by.
But that doesn't mean I can't make fair observations here.
The anti Christian and anti white bigotry that even though it's sometimes in your face, it's mostly very subtle.
It is so overwhelming now that to not address it or talk about it, or at least if you are a white person or a Christian, see it and address it is just not being honest.
It's just not.
And the amount of anti-Christian bigotry that we witnessed, I've never seen anything like it.
Over this Christmas holiday was disgusting.
And maybe we should start with the Christian angle of it.
It has never been more clear to me that let's let's just say the establishment, the corporate establishment, whoever you want to say, the people that run your media, and we know what you're all thinking.
It has never been more clear to me that they do not want you to say the name Jesus Christ.
And they don't want you to know that Christmas is about the birth of Jesus Christ, the king of Israel, the king of the world, the savior, the Messiah.
They don't want you to know about Jesus Christ.
They don't want you to talk about Jesus Christ.
They want you to forget about the birth of Jesus Christ.
They don't want any Christian symbolism anywhere.
They might give you some bells and whistles and rapping paper, and they'll maybe even say Merry Christmas, but stop it there.
You don't hear about Jesus Christ.
That's inappropriate.
You don't see it anywhere.
And this is a new phenomenon, by the way.
If you go back and watch old Christmas movies, yeah, they might not be overtly Christian or overtly Catholic or overtly all about Jesus Christ, the Savior, and the birth of Jesus Christ, but it's in there.
They make sure it's in there, some way, shape, or form, the birth of Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ the Savior, Jesus Christ the Son of God.
They make sure it's in the film.
And really, this made its way even into the 90s.
They would always have a reference to Jesus and Jesus' birth, even if it's just as simple as a nativity scene.
But now most of these new movies won't do it.
And that's why, if you saw my top 10 Christmas movies list that I put out, I put it out every year.
It changes every year.
People said, gee, why did you put Daddy's home too in there?
Nobody thinks about Daddy's Home 2.
Well, it's actually a good movie, but you know what they do in Daddy's Home 2?
They have Jesus Christ in the movie.
Not surprised since Mel Gibson is in it, a great American patriot.
And since Mark Wahlberg is in it, a great American patriot, but they actually have the nativity scene in the movie.
Just like they did in Home Alone movie from the 90s.
But all these new Christmas movies they put out, no Jesus.
They don't even want you to think about Jesus.
They don't even want you to think about the birth of the Savior.
No.
And I was actually pleasantly surprised.
The Grinch movie that came out in, I think it was like 2018.
It's the most recent cartoon Grinch movie that came out.
They actually did have one line that said Jesus in it, the birth of Jesus, made it in there one time.
Illumination Entertainment produced that film.
Wow, I was stunned.
I was stunned.
But when I'm watching all the new Christmas propaganda, when I'm watching all the new Christmas movies and commercials and everything else, and going around the town, going to the mall.
I love going to the mall for Christmas shopping and seeing the Christmas trees, the decorations, everything else, Santa, all the kids.
It's great.
I love it.
Where is Jesus Christ?
And you realize it's been done intentionally.
They have removed Jesus Christ and the birth of Jesus Christ from Christmas, and it's been done intentionally, and it's been done overtly.
And I'll Probably leave this one out for today just for the sake of time.
But it's clearly anti-Christ, anti-Christian bigotry, is what it is.
And so I could tie this into kind of the anti-white bigotry, but that kind of goes more into the immigration issue.
And it's not as bigoted.
I think it's more political.
But there's a level of that to it too.
And so I would conclude it like this.
I I'm not, I'm not a race zealot.
I'm not a religious zealot.
I'm really not.
I don't really care about race that much.
We're all humans.
I truly believe that.
I don't see skin color.
I don't care about skin color.
I don't like sit here and think about how I'm white.
I'm an American.
I'm a Christian.
I'm a human.
I'm a patriot.
I'm a freedom fighter.
I'm a truth teller.
So I don't, I don't, I don't sit here and do like the racial identity politics.
I'm not into that.
I'm not a caucasian zealot.
And I'm certainly not a religious zealot.
I don't go on air and talk about my beliefs, my faith, my Christianity very often.
That's just not what I do.
But I have to say, there was a, there was a sort of visceral response to seeing the anti-Christian bigotry and really the anti-American, to some extent, anti-white policies that are just being shoved down our throat, no matter who wins, no matter where the culture goes, these things just continue to happen.
And so I couldn't help but kind of have this internal struggle of wow.
Like, because really what it is, it's rebellious and it's contrarian to come out now and say, Jesus Christ is king.
It's contrarian and it's rebellious to say, oh, I'm I'm a proud white American.
That's like, whoa.
So now it's kind of just maybe it's just the contrarian and rebel in me that wants to do it more than anything.
But it was so overt this Christmas season, I couldn't help but say it.
And you know, I see some of the comments here.
Hey, look, I'm not, I again, I'm not a religious zealot.
I'm not telling you what to believe.
I'm not, I'm not sitting here telling you I know anything for sure.
Okay.
Uh God is very real.
But what's important to me is I'm going to honor.
This is really, and it gets back to the same thing about my policy on immigration and foreign workers.
I'm going to honor my heritage.
I'm going to honor my lineage.
My family are American men.
The men that brought me and raised me into this world for generations of Americans are Christians.
And I'm going to honor them, and I'm going to be a Christian.
And I'm going to, and I'm going to continue to maintain their culture and their beliefs and the country that they built because I'm going to honor that heritage.
And that's part of the attack on our country, too.
Is they want you to disrespect your heritage.
They want you to think your family is a bunch of racists and homophobes and bigots and all this other garbage.
And that's also that you don't appreciate your heritage and respect your heritage by being a good person and being loyal to everything it took to get you here.
Think about that.
Think about every generation of your family, of your lineage and everything they went through for you to get here, and you're going to sit here and spit in their eye.
Not me.
No, I'm going to respect the men that came before me in my family.
I'm going to respect the mothers that brought me and my lineage into this world.
So that's where it comes from for me.
So, hey, fine.
You're not a Christian, whatever.
You got your own lineage, your own background.
I hope you're respecting it.
I hope that your grandfather and your great-grandfather and your great great-great-grandfather and mothers can look at you and be proud.
I hope you think about that, because that's where I'm coming from.
So I'm not pushing religion or culture when it comes to your racial identity on anyone.
I'm just saying it was so overt the anti Christian bigotry, and it's so obvious the anti American, anti white worker mentality of our politics now.
It was so overt to me that there was a response.
Maybe it was just inherently contrarian and rebellious, but it's like, no.
No.
I'm not, I'm not letting that go unnoticed.
I'm not letting that go without any pushback.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
And I suggest you shouldn't either.
And that applies for all Americans.
By the way.
That applies for all Americans.
So I'll conclude it with this.
And maybe we'll take some questions for a couple minutes in the chat.
But I actually do have some family in town that I'm meaning to go spend time with.
The war room on InfoWars is a rerun today.
So if you're wondering what's going on, the InfoWars War Room is on a rerun right now.
We will be live tomorrow.
I'm doing a veterans call-in show tomorrow on the InfoWars War Room.
I got a veteran guest in studio.
I also have a big story that we're going to break with an investigative journalist.
So that'll be on the InfoWars War Room tomorrow, 3 to 6 p.m.
Central.
But I'm doing this broadcast live right now, just past 4 o'clock central on this Thursday, December 26th, because I wanted to come on here and address these things.
So maybe we'll take a couple questions from the audience, but just to recap, um, let me try to just recap everything.
The MAGA wars have begun.
The two big issues are going to be foreign workers, immigrants, and then Israel.
The MAGA wars have begun, and this is okay.
Debate is good.
Debate is good.
We will win this debate, by the way.
I noticed how Elon Musk won't do a poll on his foreign workers.
Why do you think that is?
Because he knows he's going to lose the poll.
So there it is with that.
But woke right are the ones that fight anti-Semitism.
That's the woke right.
And America should unapologetically be a Christian nation.
America should unapologetically be a Christian nation.
And in fact, I might even argue if we don't bring this nation back to Christ, I don't know if we survive.
And quite frankly, folks, it's not even about what you believe.
It's really not.
You don't have to believe in Jesus.
You don't have to believe in the New Testament.
But if you don't understand why this nation needs to be back to a Christian nation and be brought back to Jesus Christ, then you're completely missing the picture.
You're completely missing it.
It has to be done.
And I hope it's not too late.
I hope it's not too late.
But it has to be done.
So here's my final thing, and this is one of the more overt things.
The NFL did a Netflix Christmas Day special.
So it was the first time, obviously, first time, I think of first time Netflix has ever had a football game.
But it was the first time they kind of did a Christmas special.
if the Christmas day didn't land on a Sunday when they were already doing football.
So it was really kind of the first Christmas special.
They had two games yesterday.
First of all, it was a horrible product.
Both the games were blowouts.
The NFL doing games on all these different days that are not just Sunday and then Monday night football is all stupid.
It's a bad product.
The games are blowouts.
The teams are playing on short rest.
They shouldn't do it.
It's ridiculous.
But aside from that.
So it's the Christmas day NFL special.
And if you watched it, you may have noticed what I'm talking about.
Their studio set, their studio set did not have any Christian symbolism, which may not surprise you.
May not surprise you because if you're in the sports media, you get scolded and you can even be fired or lose your job for having Christian symbolism on your person.
You wear a crucifix.
You have a crucifix behind you.
You mentioned Jesus Christ.
You mentioned the Bible.
You can lose your job over that.
So they've already, if it's not for the athletes, if it weren't for the athletes getting up there, when they take the podium or do a post-game interview saying, thank you, Jesus Christ, you wouldn't get any Christian symbolism on your person.
ever in sports.
So God bless the athletes that do it.
But no, yesterday, the set of Netflix Christmas special, no Christian symbolism at all.
In fact, it was Hanukkah themed.
Explain that one to me.
Explain to me how the Netflix NFL Christmas special has a Hanukkah themed set.
Can someone explain that to me?
Now, it might be one thing if they wanted to do the whole equal opportunity bullcrap.
Diversity bullcrap, which we all know they already do anyway, but no, there was no Christian symbolism.
There was no nativity scene, there was no Jesus Christ, there was no Virgin Mary, there was no three kings.
No, no Christian symbolism at all.
A Jewish Hanukkah themed Christmas Day NFL studio set.
Somebody explain that to me.
Somebody explain that to me.
I've never seen that.
So they've been getting rid of Christianity in sports now for decades.
For decades.
They've been getting rid of Christian in sports.
But now they're gonna have Hanukkah themed and Jewish themes all over the sports world.
But I can't, but there's no no Christianity allowed.
Explain that one to me.
Are we a Christian nation or not?
Are we a Jewish nation?
When did that happen?
I thought that was a conspiracy theory.
I thought that didn't exist.
So that was just crazy over the top.
That was just crazy over the top.
Wow.
So there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
Your post Christmas Eve and day special.
What did you guys think of that?
It was a little out of character for me.
You get a little different, you get a little different take from me here than uh when I'm hosting the normal show.
Because the normal show, the InfoWars Warroom is all about news and informing everybody.
Uh, whereas this is a little more personal, you might say.
But I hope you guys enjoyed it.
I hope you enjoyed it.
What should we go out with?
We already played O'Come, all ye faithful.
Maybe oh holy night.
We'll stick with Nat King Cole.
Because how can you go wrong with that?
So that's gonna do it.
Again, I will be live tomorrow.
I will be live tomorrow hosting the InfoWars War Room, 3 to 6 p.m. Central Time.
You can go to Owensroyer.show to find that feed.
I will be back live tomorrow.
Appreciate everybody tuning in.
And hey, remember, have a merry Christmas.
You know, I'm not done.
I still got my Christmas tree up.
I got some family in town, so have a Merry Christmas.
Uh, stay tuned here on X at OwenSreuer 1776 and Rumble.com slash Owen, and of course, tomorrow at InfoWars, I will see you there 3 p.m. sharp.
God bless, God speed.
I hope everybody continues to have a happy holiday.
Oh holy night.
The stars are brightly shining.
It is the night of the dear Savior's book.
In sin and air up.
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