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March 1, 2024 - Owen Shroyer Live
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OSL 54 - Interview With Culture Critic
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, it's great to be with you here on kind of a pop-up surprise, Owen Schroyer Live.
Normally we're live on Monday nights.
But we're live on a Thursday night tonight.
Owen Schroyer Live.
Episode 54.
And I'm really excited.
I'm really excited for this guest tonight.
It's a very interesting guest, a very popular account on Twitter.
And we're going to be going into his mind and his thoughts.
That's the Culture Critic.
You probably follow this account.
And as always, we're coming to you through the Owen dot gold microphone.
So, ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, let me introduce my guest for this evening.
He is the culture critic.
And his account on Twitter has blown up over a million followers.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of life.
And that is the culture critic.
He joins me now from an undisclosed location in Europe.
Culture Critic.
Thank you.
Thank you for being on with me tonight.
Hey everyone, thanks for having me on.
I've um I've been a listener of yours for some time.
Uh so it's an honor to be on the show.
Thanks for having me here.
Wow.
Well, that's pretty cool.
And I, of course, follow your account with great interest as well.
And and I just want to start with the basics.
Why did you decide to start this account that really I would say just archives history and art and architecture?
And I guess for you, maybe European history specifically, why did you decide to start this account?
And did you expect it to get so large?
Yeah, well, I mean, certainly not.
Certainly didn't expect it to get anywhere near the size that it's at.
But you can probably tell from my accent that I'm from England.
I live in London.
And so the reason for doing it, was I guess a bit of a kickback against what's going on here in terms of the architecture and the art that surrounds us.
And most of British sort of inner cities obviously fell victim to World War II, And they were built back in in some of the most egregious ways um they've ever seen in terms of post-war architecture.
And so you can't really go anywhere in Britain without being offended by uh some kind of concrete monstrosity of some kind.
So uh growing up around that kind of thing has always always wanted um wanted a bit of a reaction.
Um, and I'm not the only one to post about it.
There's the the big movement, um, and it didn't start with me.
Uh mine has just become one of the loudest voices in this space.
Uh, but there's a lot of resistance against these kinds of things.
Um all over the internet, and especially on X and on Twitter back in the day.
So I'm just glad to be kind of part of that movement against uh the destruction of DC, um, which has come in many different forms over the last century or two.
And um honestly there's a there's a huge amount of support for it that I didn't actually expect, and to have reached about a million followers in about a year is is just beyond what what I would have thought possible.
One year.
So so one year, that's how long you've been active with this account.
Yeah, well, uh strangely enough, I was kind of on the naughty list before Elon took over.
Uh and so I was I was posting before then, but I I wasn't really getting any trap in.
And um, I definitely think I was certainly guilty by association with conservative accounts and um the kinds of people that agree with this message.
And so I really gave up until Elon took over and the brakes were off from then on.
So do you think then prior to Elon Musk taking over, you were being censored or shadow banned?
It's difficult to say, and and I wouldn't necessarily say that was the case based on the message um itself to its core, because I think what I'm posting about is is relatively inoffensive to most audiences, but I think it's this guilt by association thing.
I think a lot of people who agree with my message are people like you, Owen, who sit on the rise of politics and are small government people and um stand up against um a lot of the same things that I do in my private life.
Um and so I think when you start engaging with accounts that are on that naughty list, you get you get trucked onto it yourself.
Does Elon Musk follow you?
He does.
Um he does.
That was a few months back.
Um I I certainly think that he he enjoys the post to some extent and and probably agrees with the message.
I think deep down we all do.
Um, but yeah, it's that's quite quite a surreal thing when that happened.
So so here's one thing that that really stuck out to me, and I think this is what I noticed, because I'm not a lot of the stuff that you post is is new to me, you know.
I'm I'm kind of learning along with some of the old English traditions or the old European traditions when it comes to art and history, architecture.
It's universally beautiful.
I think I think any person would see that and agree.
That's that's universally beautiful.
So the one thing that sticks out to me just as a as a curious person, as a person that's that's neutrally observational, I would say, well, what's happened to civilization?
Why don't we build like this anymore?
Have you found the answer to that?
Or do you have have you reached any conclusions?
I mean, look, there's a lot of things that that go into that that change, and it's it's been happening over some time.
It's it's not new, it's it's at least a hundred years old at this point.
Um, but it all really just comes back to faith.
And what you'll see throughout history that that kind of drove great art and and great building and kind of great people, uh essentially was was the devout faith.
And when you take that away, you take away something that used to be what really was the key formula, especially within the visual arts um and and within architecture as well.
When you look back at history and you see you see paintings of the Madonna, for instance, you see um beautiful, beautiful artworks from from the Gospels, uh making those things beautiful once had a purpose in in quite a practical sense.
And so when somebody like a Michelangelo sculpted um the Virgin Mary and and Jesus Christ, the reason for making it beautiful was a practical one in that if you did that, it would pull you into the gospel story as an observer.
It had more power and weight in doing things like that specifically.
And so when you take away faith from society, you take kind of those key motivators away from from creating beauty, and beauty is something that something that is very spiritual.
It's beauty, appreciating beauty is kind of what makes it different from animals.
It's one of the most important things that does that.
And so those two things, faith and beauty are very closely intertwined, and when you take one away, the other kind of has fallen with a few decades um of lead time to fall, but fool it certainly did.
I'm speaking to the culture critic.
You should give him a follow on X. I'm telling you, you're not going to regret it.
It's a bit of a timeline refresher as well.
Um there was one post, I'm gonna try to find it again here.
It was from Paris, and basically it's I guess like a walk through a a park or a main area of Paris, and and you show how it looked, I guess somewhat of a century ago compared to what it like uh looks like now.
And and one would I think argue most people would argue that uh it's it's lost a certain beauty, it's lost a certain touch.
Now, I I'm just curious, I'm gonna connect these things.
How much how much have you studied or looked into the world's fair when it came to the United States, specifically the World's Fair in St. Louis?
Yes, yeah, well, I'm very familiar with it, and it it it wasn't a European phenomenon, it was actually probably done even better stateside.
So yeah, I mean that that was a pretty incredible thing, which to look back at those old photographs now, is it it it sort of doesn't seem real because you can't really imagine us doing things like that and putting on displays of that that level of pageantry without really necessarily a reason to do it, except for its own sake.
Um I mean, the perfect example is the Eiffel Tower.
People forget that that was put up for um the World's Fair in 1889, and the reason for doing it was like I just said, uh a spectacular display of of pageantry and beauty and ambition to build great things, which seems almost almost completely insane to do that now.
It would never pass a cost-benefit analysis um for one thing.
Um it just wouldn't happen.
And so when you look at those old photographs, like in St. Louis and like in Chicago, you just you just think, wow, what how different those people were to us today?
Yeah, I pulled up some images here of the World Fair.
Now, the reason I asked specifically about St. Louis is because that's my hometown.
And when I when I saw some of these images from the World's Fair, it was like this was like a fantasy land.
It was like out of some Disney movie.
I'm like, well, what happened to my city?
What happened to the culture?
And there is still some beauty in St. Louis, don't get me wrong.
We still have Art Hill.
Um, we still have some classic architecture, even from the 1600s, um, dating back to when it was a fur trading post on the Mississippi.
They've they've done a pretty good job protecting some of that, but I mean, nothing like the grandeur and the the sprawling beauty that was witnessed in the world's fair.
So so getting back to the last question, and then what you just said, cost effective.
Because how much of that do you think goes into?
How much of it they're just saying, oh, it's not cost effective, or it's a it's a resource issue.
How how much of that is paralleled versus what we might deem as more of um satanic, demonic influenced society versus a more Christian influenced society?
How much is it is that weighed against simply we don't want to spend the money?
Yeah, well, uh something I talk about quite a lot is um what other people have called the useless beauty metric.
So you walk around St. Louis, for example, and you certainly if you walk around regional towns of England or anywhere, you see incredible Victorian era architecture um in the most unlikely places in factories, um, in sewage pumps, uh, wherever, and it's all ornate and it's all beautiful, and you wonder why.
Obviously, it it wouldn't pass a cost-benefit analysis now, and it didn't then either, but people did it anyway because they knew that by building beautiful things, you create a society where people's eyes are pulled upwards um to the heavens,
and you inspire them uh to do to be better people, and that just kind of doesn't really become a consideration in a in a secular society, which you know, you and I for the most part probably are both living in right now.
So the world's fair obviously a worldwide phenomenon.
I mean, what what would be some other good examples for Curious minds to go look into again for me, it was just that's my hometown of St. Louis.
I was just enamored.
I was like, how did how did we go from this in 1904 to sadly so many places of downtown St. Louis um really just a mess uh decaying to put it simply?
What what would be some other points of curiosity for people to look into when it comes to what happened at uh world's fair over a hundred years ago?
Well, I I I don't I don't know necessarily specific events um to point to, but I guess I would just point people to pretty much anything that went up around the turn of the 20th century and then and then contrast that to what happened post-war.
And it's it's obviously very different.
That there are examples all over the world.
What what happened with the World Fairs was they were these proud displays whereby countries would try to outdo each other with building the most beautiful things possible.
And so if St. Louis is a point of interest, look at Chicago, uh, look at Paris, look at London, these things were happening um not just at the turn of the century, but for decades and decades before then as well.
So there was a good century of these um these massive displays of beauty and architecture and uh artistic genius.
Um and it was happening all the time, and people invested money in communities actually came together to fund them.
Um they weren't necessarily just done um on the backs of big donors, a lot of them are community efforts.
Chicago's a great example of that.
So I will just yeah, point people to to pretty well anything that happened prior to the world wars, um, architecturally speaking.
We're speaking with the culture critic, give him a follow on X timeline refresher and a bit of a history lesson.
Do you think we're even capable of building sculpting um such beauty in the 21st century?
I mean, I certainly think we are just from a technical standpoint.
Um and there are there are people still sort of you know making great art and certainly trying to push within um those institutions, uh and and and they you know deserve recognition for doing so.
But um it's kind of comes back to the bay point.
If if people aren't driven to do it, then I suppose you can say that they can't do it.
Um I mean, uh from a technical standpoint, yes, we you know, we can make we can make marble look transparent if if we have the drive to spend seven years doing that.
Um people forget that you know they look at a Michelangelo or they look at a Benini and they forget quite how long that they were devoted to their craft for.
Um that didn't just come by accident.
These these guys were working at it, you know, for decades before they they got picked up by the Pope to do um something spectacular.
So with a return to faith, it's it's very possible, but it's that's what it's gonna take.
It's gonna take people um really investing in beauty as something that's important, something that is a fundamental virtue.
Yeah, you mentioned the work that was done with marble and and specifically with sculptures.
I remember one of the points of interest or or curiosity for me was they talked about, I think it was in the sculpture of David, and it and it showed how advanced the knowledge was even back then, how there's these muscles in the forearm that are just like just one little thread of a muscle in the forearm, and and they would even put that into the sculptures, just that they knew enough that there was that one thread of a muscle in the forearm, and they had that tiny little detail in the sculpture.
They talk about making marble look like it's waving, look like it's weightless.
It's it's I mean, do you see is there anybody that you follow or see now that that does art or sculpting like that just in the modern day?
I mean, sculpture is is it's certainly a lost art.
If we're talking, if we talk about lost arts, I will grant you that marble sculpture is one that just simply um doesn't exist anywhere near to the same standard.
Um what what is obviously important to remember with people like Michelangelo um and Leonardo is that they were masters of several crafts.
So Michelangelo knew so much about anatomy because he spent his time Um down in the crypts um dissecting human bodies.
Um and so he was a genius at several fields, and you know that that's how he had that anatomical knowledge that went into it.
Um but yeah, look, if sculpture wise, no, we we simply don't do it.
But then I I guess remember that our great artists, quote unquote, sit in different fields nowadays.
So um the Michelangelo of today just simply wouldn't get the funding to do the things that he did.
Well, hey, now there was a famous artist, I think it was in London.
Uh correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it in London where he taped a banana to the wall?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, one of the ways that this account got really big was by poking fun and things like that.
Um and it's just so it's seen, everybody knows it's ridiculous.
Um and people just aren't showing up to these art galleries anymore.
Um but yeah, I mean, we're now in a place where you can't discern prank from from art, it's all just blending into one um mad joke.
But yeah, uh uh utterly ridiculous.
What do you think is the greatest modern marvel when it comes to architecture?
For me, it has to be uh I I believe it's the uh Segura Familia in Spain.
I think I'm pronouncing that right.
Uh the the gigantic church, it's like you can see it from space.
Yeah.
What do you think is the most impressive modern marvel of architecture in your eyes right now?
Um well, I I think you're right to look at the church building.
And w what I do uh occasionally in the account is is try to not strike such a pessimistic tone and to point people to things that that we are building.
And when you look at these very religious societies that still exist, um it's inevitably the ones um those are the ones who are building it.
And yeah, I here's a good one for you.
Um look up the Saint Saba um cathedral in in Belgrade.
Um that's that's a beautiful orthodox church.
I I do find that most of the things that go out nowadays tend to be orthodox.
You said the uh you said the repeat that what is it now?
It's the Saint Saba.
Sorry if I'm getting that pronunciation wrong, but it's S-A-B-A.
Um, it's an Orthodox church um in Belgrade, and and what's amazing about it is that it has um what I believe is the largest mosaic ever constructed, at least certainly the largest mosaic that exists today.
And that was built or the mosaic was finished, I believe, in 2020.
And so I think people should look at things like that and be um encouraged, because where societies do have faith at their center, they are still doing things like this, and and it's it's an honestly encouraging.
And yeah, your example it's great.
Barcelona is a beautiful place.
Um, and that cathedral is very close to completion, and when it when it is completed, it's gonna be, I believe, the biggest church in Europe.
So um there's a lot to look forward to, and I don't want to be pessimistic in everything that I say, because uh there is a lot of stuff going up still.
Yeah, and most of this stuff, and this is why I find your um account, and I'm gonna pull up the Saint Sava.
It looks like we have some uh 4K footage that you can find here on uh YouTube.
They do a walkthrough.
That's that's the one reason why I enjoy following your account so much because there's so much that you put up that I would otherwise never see, never never hear about.
I mean, what what uh what are your methods for for even discovering a lot of this stuff?
Uh well, I I mean, to some extent it's it's places that I've been.
A lot of it is just places that I've been and been overwhelmed by.
Um but I don't want to take all the credit because things like this are are circulating if if you manage to find yourself in the right pockets of Twitter.
Um, and I would encourage people to seek out more accounts that do things like this because when you start to look for it, it it really is everywhere.
And um, you know, Saint Sarbara is just one example of of one of these things that that you just can't quite believe was was 21st century.
Um but it's it's everywhere, and um there is a massive community on Twitter who um which is posting about things like this and and I would just encourage people to seek it out.
Well I go back and look at history and it's not just the turn of the 20th century when a lot of this started going up.
How how familiar are you with or how much research have you done into the phenomenon of the ancient megaliths uh whether it's in South America or Egypt.
How familiar are you with uh with that um I I post about ancient societies occasionally um I generally kind of leave that to other people but it's living in the ruins of of great civilization as I believe we are now it is not I don't necessarily think something new.
um i mean the greeks even even the ancient greeks were surrounded by um you know beautiful ruins uh that that were wondrous even to them and so what i've seen recently is um really really great communities around that kind of asking these questions um was the you know the timeline that that we've been become to believe correct um what do we not know about societies and
sort of how wondrous really were they and so I love I love to kind of go down those those rabbit holes and and learn learn things about about that kind of thing but but but I I wouldn't say I'm an expert and so I let others teach me about that.
I I'm sort of focused on the Renaissance and um and less less so antiquity.
Well I would say from my research I have no doubt that I mean anybody can argue what's superior or what's inferior but there's no doubt we've been lied to about the the the history timeline and I think the big lie is the theory of evolution.
If anything the modern day theory of evolution has actually been completely disproven um by archaeology uh anthropology and and and the megaliths I would say that that theory has been completely disproven.
So if you do want to argue evolution then you have to adjust your theory um based off of discoveries by um people studied and covered by individuals like Graham Hancock.
So I think obviously that the the timeline that we've been given is a lie.
And I think that uh the megaliths are kind of the missing link.
I think the megaliths kind of prove it whether it's the pyramids in Egypt or the pyramids in uh South America, the tunnels, the the the um paintings and the sculptures that are uh universal all over the planet, you know, dating at least 10,000 years ago before these uh humans could have possibly contacted one another I I think that that proves that there there either was some technology or some might argue a different a different form of intelligence back then.
But I think it also shows that there was always this appreciation and this this yearning this reaching for beauty.
Right.
Yeah I mean absolutely and and there are some great accounts that I'll give a shout out here.
Jimmy Corsetti is a really really great accountant and um he's he's a he's a rumble streamer as well and and he he dives into all these kinds of questions and it's and it's fascinating and and but you're right that's kind of the one thing that strings it all together really is that people just had a sense of the uh the wondrous and the beautiful and um endeavored to build as much of it as they could, as much of it as they possibly could even to degree that would seem impossible.
And the Greeks knew this and the Greeks learned a hell of a lot from from the Egyptians and other and other ancient civilizations that came before them.
So um we're kind of at this place in history where we're we're almost the only humans ever to not think about these things um as far as we can tell from from looking back at the timeline.
So we're the only humans who don't build with with these um mighty goals in mind and that's that's a really sad thing well and my concern is we're gonna reach this this stage where it's either going to be AI building it, creating it, conceiving it, or it's not going to exist.
I think that we're already in in a way kind of seeing that but when you when you plug these sort of prompts into even artificial intelligence it it somehow Seems to get it.
It it somehow seems to appreciate it or or or find a way to recreate it in the same beauty that humans used to build.
Yeah.
Well, it what's fun to do is is ask um ask one of these AI um applications.
What what is a beautiful building look like?
And they they inevitably show you something gothic um or romanesque uh or baroque.
And it's it's never a a concrete block, which is something I I find um pretty amusing.
But yeah, AI seems to know better than we do.
Well, there's a lot of talk because I think that we we may not be aware of this, we may not fully comprehend this, but I think in a way we we are in a modern day dark age, and it's hard for us to even understand or appreciate that because we have all this technology, we have all this ease of access.
I mean, you could even argue that just around the entire planet, as far as we know, historically speaking, we live in the greatest time to to be human as far as the ease of living, the uh life expectancy.
But there's there's kind of a there's kind of another side of the coin.
It's it because of that, we don't even realize that we're in a dark age with the ugly music, the ugly art, the ugly architecture.
Uh I mean, just aside from everything that goes on politically, I mean, just culturally speaking, um, to me, we're kind of in that dark age, but but there seems to be a crossroads, and there's a new narrative forming about a new renaissance, another renaissance that out of this dark age will be a new renaissance.
Do you have that same hope or are you blackpilled as they say?
No, I'm an optimist, and I think you're absolutely right.
Um I I think even if we talk about the you know the very small impact um that the people people like me are having on on the airwaves and on X. Um even just by doing that, I I'm observing, you know, kind of a groundswell in terms of people's appreciation for these things.
It's it's now become quite common to ask the question, you know, why don't we build this stuff?
Um, or what what was it that inspired people to build it in the first place?
It's quite it's quite common now to hear those kinds of questions.
And so I do think we're we're at a bit of a turning point.
I I couldn't say how long it's gonna take uh to to kind of reverse core something like this, and I I suspect we have some time to wait, but I I think you're right.
I think we will bounce back, and you know, maybe it's the case that we just go in this endless um cycle of peak and troughs where we forget what's important, we forget what's beautiful and true and good, and until it kind of forces us back towards it, um, because we just can't bear to live without it.
Um so I I think that will happen, but it's it's gonna be a matter of time.
Well, we've now heard from the culture critic.
Again, I suggest giving him a follow, if nothing else for a nice timeline cleanse, but you'll become quite enamored and interested in this stuff the more you see of it.
We get a bit of a perspective into his mind and his spirit and what's drawn him to this beauty and this art.
Uh so final question now.
Are you gonna are are you interested?
You seem not to be a fan of the new gladiator movie that's coming out.
You're not going to see it?
I don't even understand why they're making it.
I mean, what...
You know why?
You know why they're making it.
Nobody has any creativity, nobody has anything original anymore.
Well, yeah, but I mean, to what extent are they gonna remake it?
Is is it not just a money thing?
Do they want to remake it in their own image?
Is that what's going on?
Do they want it to be uh for a modern or modern day audience?
Can they not just let it stand as it is?
I guess we'll find out because the deal has been inked, hasn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, uh I I guess look, I'd encourage people not to watch it because I just have I have no faith that it's gonna it's gonna be any good at all.
Uh did you see the um the Napoleon movie?
Actually, I've been meaning to watch it.
I've heard good things.
It's waiting in my uh my list right now.
Um well I I did watch it.
Um it actually wasn't as bad as I was expecting.
Um, but I just think that Hollywood is is so obsessed with imprinting their own vision of the world um on historical stories.
Um and it just it just I I I think that's something that is gonna come to an end pretty soon.
I think you we're we're seeing the absolute collapse of the Disney share price, um the collapse of earnings, and it's not gonna last, but I think unfortunately we're gonna have to endure another five or ten years of movies like this.
Well, I I tend to able to watch a movie and not be too impacted by the propaganda.
I mean, once you've once you once you know it's there, it's impossible to not see it.
But I definitely, you know, I I can definitely still enjoy a movie and not just be completely uh watered down by all the propaganda.
You know what?
I do want to ask you one more thing because I have it on the screen here um on your ex account.
You know, it's funny because Russia, you mentioned you know, Tucker goes to Russia, talks about all the beauty.
Russia seems to kind of embrace that that renaissance art and and sculpture in in some areas.
But to me, I see I see things this is all happening in the east, unironically, I suppose.
But I what I see going in a I I think there's like two different, there's two different ways the future of let's say your metropolitan area goes, and you have kind of the new age advanced look and aesthetic of like uh Dubai or like a Japan or a Hong Kong, which is very high-tech, lots of lights.
Um I I'm a bit enamored by that as well.
But but then you kind of have the ancient classical look, traditional look of uh Russia.
I mean, it's it seems like those are the two directions.
It's either you're going more classical, traditional, like Russia, or you're going more high-tech, I don't know what you would call it, futuristic, like a Saudi Arabia, Dubai, a Japan.
Yeah.
So but do you think do you think Tucker was right about Russia?
Or or do you think, or better yet, do you think the reason why Russia embraces the tradition is because it's probably the most fun fundamental Catholic Christian country maybe on Earth right now.
Yeah, it's a qu it's a good question.
I I guess I I'm not sure I have a a genius answer for you in terms of why certain societies pivot to the modern um and the touring skyscrapers.
Um but it it was amusing to watch um Tucker have that that realization in Moscow because I mean he's he's just so right.
And and it comes back to this sort of what what I look for, here's here's how I'll answer the question.
What I look for is is the useless beauty metric.
Look look at things that just needn't be beautiful, and it tells you a lot about about what that society values.
And and maybe the perfect example as Tucker was going on about is the subway system in Moscow.
There really isn't any need for a subway system to to be ornate and do have um colorful ceiling frescoes because you spend half an hour of your day down there and um it's underground, you know.
And so it it would occur to most people who plan cities that that that kind of thing just doesn't matter.
Um, but they're just completely wrong because those those everyday occurrences um are what lift people up.
And that that's one thing that that Moscow just gets right.
Um and they have probably the most beautiful subway system in the world.
And I think I think to some extent you can look at useless beauty as of that ilk as um a a barometer of the culture and of the spiritual health of a society.
You know, I I would say it's for the same reason why we want our house to look aesthetically pleasing, and we want our house to be a place that uh we enjoy.
I mean, hell, even the video game The Sims, you know, they have uh they have a little bar in there uh for environment.
How much do you enjoy your environment?
So yeah, you know, you're walking through uh downtown San Francisco that's covered in feces, you probably don't enjoy that so much, or a subway in New York City that that that reeks like sewage uh versus something in in Russia or some of these other areas that you cover on your Twitter account, probably a little bit more pleasing.
Well, I appreciate your time.
The culture critic is with us.
Give him a follow an X. I uh I I really appreciate your account.
I hope that you keep it up, and I hope that others will enjoy what you post.
And who knows, maybe maybe it'll inspire uh a future architect, a future designer to um help us get back to a new golden age.
Yeah, well, that's that's the whole goal, and and And if I can um convince just a handful of people, then I feel like I've done a good job.
So um, but yeah, thanks for having me on, and um, I'm a big supporter of the show.
And uh, hope you can come on again at some point.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
We'll connect again.
Whenever if you post something else that I'm like, all right, I gotta talk to him about this.
I'm gonna I'm gonna hit you up, even on the other side of the planet at an undisclosed location in Europe.
Okay, thanks, Evan.
Thank you so much.
Wow.
Okay, so so there you go.
I think it's undeniable.
When you when you look at what was done in the past, you cannot deny that we've lost something along the way.
We've lost a yearning for beauty.
We've lost a yearning for design.
We've lost the need to be surrounded in our cultural centers, in our civic centers, in our metropolitan areas, to be surrounded by that beauty.
And you just can't help but wonder why.
And you just can't help but hope that we can return, that we can have our own renaissance, that we can witness our own golden age, if you will.
I certainly hope that we all get to experience that and be a part of that together.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is my hat, I will have you know.
This is my hat, but.
But it was a gift from the great Roger Stone.
And I gotta make sure that I'm wearing it right.
Roger says you have to wear it right too.
And so it's gotta have a little bit of a little bit of a slant to it on the side.
And uh and uh going forward.
So probably something like that, and you want to keep your chin down a little bit.
You want to wear the fedora properly.
So it's actually a gift from Roger Stone.
I'm gonna thank everybody for tuning in.
Thanks to everybody in the Rumble Rants, AIM always with us as well.
Big supporter.
Thanks to everybody out there in the Rumble Rance.
And we did uh we were off Monday night.
I was unable to make it on Monday night, but we will be back next Monday night, uh, same time, same plan for episode 55.
So thanks to everybody for being along with me.
Thanks to my guest, Culture Critic.
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