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May 23, 2023 - Owen Shroyer Live

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OSL 26 - Who's Winning The Culture Wars? Are Conservatives Eating Themselves?

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	Who is winning the culture war?
	and are conservatives beginning to eat themselves.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right, ladies and gentlemen.
	The question is who is winning the culture wars and are conservatives eating themselves in the current culture wars?
	And I'm about to be joined.
	This is the first ever video guest that we've had.
	Usually I just do the cell phone because I like this to be audio only, but she insisted on being over the video.
	So I think we're gonna be testing this in live time, but I think it's gonna work out just fine.
	Uh thank God for Bill Gates' wonderful Zoom technology, so we can zoom right in on your life through the windows he put into your home.
	So before I bring her in quickly, Owen Schroeder Live, episode number twenty six coming to you as always through the Wolfpack dot gold microphone, Wolfpack dot gold.
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	All right.
	So I can uh get you on the screen.
	So just give me one second.
	Bear with me here, y'all.
	Oh no, that's not gonna work.
	all right let's try this Oh, I see.
	That's why I'm in a I'm in a separate Zoom window.
	It's an entire thing.
	It's not even an internet browser window.
	That's why I'm all confused here.
	All right, so then we're gonna do that.
	All right, there we go.
	Now you guys can see her.
	Uh I just caught her in the act of drinking some herbal tea, I think.
	Is that what you have there?
	Some you got some uh some herbal tea?
	Yeah, it's peppermint and green tea, all in one.
	Is that your own uh is that your own recipe there?
	No, it's just two tea bags that I put in the same cup.
	Is this part of your reset program?
	Yes, yeah, green tea definitely is peppermint, is also good.
	I mean, it doesn't have like as many properties, it's just more for the flavor.
	So you're big into like health and lifestyle, and that's kind of your involvement in what I'm calling the culture wars tonight.
	Yeah, definitely.
	I've been into health and fitness for basically almost twenty years.
	Um I also worked in the traditional healthcare field for six years.
	Well, more than six years, but I practiced medicine for six years, and before that I worked, you know just um while I was going to school and everything.
	So what what are you considering traditional medicine?
	Like you worked at a hospital, you were a nurse practitioner.
	I was a physician assistant and I worked in the ICU.
	I worked six years in the ICU.
	And from what you saw in there, you thought it would be better for people if you introduce them alternative health options.
	Exactly.
	So I what I saw was people come in, they're already, you know, they obviously have health problems.
	They're on a ton of pills, you know, life long and everything.
	And then you see the same people coming back and back with more and more health problems.
	Nobody's really addressing lifestyle.
	You know, you you work in that field, you kind of get to know the medications and everything.
	And you start to think, you know, if you're like me, I'm like, I wouldn't, you know, want to be on any of these pills when I go home and um you know because you know all the side effects and all of that.
	And so it just become became for me like a huge disconnect from like how I take care of my body versus like how patients are you know taking care of their body like from the time they're with their general practitioners and everything, you know, all the way till they they you know are in the ICU usually with like exacerbations of chronic disease.
	And yes I was like if these people or anybody could learn some of the things that I do you know throughout my daily life like there would be a huge chance they would never end up in this position.
	So that was when I kind of decided like to pivot back you know towards that the health um space like the true health space of like preventative lifestyle.
	So when was the last time you were in a hospital like that you needed care.
	Never I mean I've been to an ER probably well I don't I I'm not I'm not prying for personal information.
	The only reason I asked that is because the only reason I asked this is because the people I talk to that are into you know we'll call it lifestyle or alternative health practices uh like like myself I never go to a hospital.
	I never go to hospital.
	And what I've noticed too is it's almost freakish like some injuries linger, right?
	Like now that I'm I'm a little I'm I'm I'm I'm getting a little older I don't like to think I'm old.
	I'm not trying to age you here I'm 33 and I'm getting to the point where some nagging injuries like won't go away.
	Like I jam 33 well like I yeah well no I like I'm all good.
	But it's like I jam my thumb playing basketball like a month ago and it's like it won't go away.
	It's like every time I play I rejam it and it's just I have to take some time off.
	But I also think because because I'm so healthy I've had other things happen where I've rolled an ankle which even when I was younger playing sports I probably would have been shelled for at least a week or two.
	I roll an ankle now it recovers in like a night it's like freaky yeah um no exactly so other than having my son I've never like been in the hospital um oh you gave birth in a hospital oh I'm a little surprised by that well yes I it wouldn't have been my choice my son's father was like we lived in a very small town and it's not like there was a birthing center.
	It's not like there was like, uh, I wanted to have him at home.
	Um, but there wasn't really like midwives that would come to your house or anything like that there that we like knew their reputation.
	So I wish I had not given birth in the hospital because they start right away with the C-section, you know, Hey, the vaccines, all the other crap that they want to give you.
	Yes.
	And I did end up with a C-section because they kind of lie to you.
	They manipulate you.
	They scare you.
	So, you know, they wait till you're tired because you've been in labor for 30 hours and they tell you it's just not going fast enough.
	And they're worried, even though there's nothing actually wrong, you know?
	And at that time, my son's five, um, and a half so I hadn't armed myself with enough information to be like no my water didn't break too long ago I have plenty of time and I didn't have anyone there to advocate for me.
	So I did end up with a C section which is like a huge regret to me because they kind of have you then like it's very hard to be able to it's intimidating.
	You're in the hospital you're surrounded by people that think they're authority figures.
	But you know you just said that you just said the key word was it's all about having the information and and so many people don't have the information.
	I think a lot of people learned that the Hard way with the uh with the vaccine rollout in 2021 and 2022, and they regret perhaps taking the vaccine.
	You know, one other thing, and I want to get to the comments for tonight.
	I'm just kind of introducing you to the audience.
	Um the one other thing that I've heard too is that you you said you had a was it 30 hours you said wasn't that long?
	Most people that I have heard from now, the people that I hear from that have their burrs at a hospital, they're always like 20 hours minimum.
	The people I know that have had home births, it's like a couple hours and they're done.
	How is that even a thing?
	It's because they kind of put you in the bed and they don't have you move around.
	They don't coach you on, you know, how you should be sitting, how you should be.
	If I could have do it over again, I would have learned a lot about um, especially for women, and I didn't know this either, but a lot of people talk about like women that are very in shape that work out a lot, you actually need to learn pelvic floor relaxation to be able to allow the baby to descend quickly.
	Um, and I I don't know much about it, but that's just something that I've been tell told since then by people.
	Um, so there's a lot more I would have done to prepare.
	But yes, like when you're just in the hospital, like laying there, like your labor is not going to be progressing.
	Um, and they don't really encourage you to like do the things that you need to do to help it progress.
	So is it true that if you drink a Bud Light while pregnant, your kid will be trans?
	I I've heard that that is the new data is coming out in that direction.
	That was the catch.
	You might not know this, but you can maybe tell by my voice.
	Um I've been sick the last week, and so I decided to come out as a double trans.
	Um, I'm actually a woman who identifies as a man who identifies as a woman for, you know, until my voice gets better.
	So as a double trans person, I'm back in the correct body.
	I don't need any surgical reassignment or anything.
	But um, you know, I just wanted to see if that annoyed anyone that I said that.
	Wow.
	And if anybody questions that, of course, they are a bigot.
	All right.
	So they are, yes.
	Yeah.
	They're not, they need to educate themselves.
	Okay.
	So I gotta, I I I gotta, I gotta blow you up on this because I saw it on your Twitter feed.
	You shared the uh you shared the fake astronauts that are all professors at the teachers, uh, they're professors at the university now.
	So I'm just curious, do because I've noticed there's a lot of, and this is actually going to lead perfectly into the conversation because the reason why all these things are intertwining right now because it's all kind of populist stuff, right?
	Like people want to get healthy again, people are thirsty for information again, people are sick of the corrupt government.
	So it's all these kind of movements that are forming into this political populist movement that um, you know, in a way, Trump was kind of like the nucleus that that everything kind of started from, I think, that kind of just united everybody under this political tent in 2016.
	Not that it's even about Trump, it's not, it's it's beyond that, I think is what we're learning.
	But I'm just curious, do people ever like because I know you've been into politics, uh, I think even libertarianism some do people you do do people ever bring that up when they're getting advice from like health advice or lifestyle advice?
	Like, do they like the political stuff or do they not like the political stuff?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So some people have fun with it if they can kind of let go.
	Um, I I think it's really fun.
	When I trained in the gym, I would tell my clients about this stuff all the time, and they would think it was goofy and be entertained and everything.
	But I was surprised because some of the people that I trained, you know, their lifestyle was like pretty mainstream and stuff.
	And one of them for sure was like, yeah, the moon landing is fake, you know, but other people are not yeah.
	Oh, of course the moon landing.
	We can get into that.
	I don't actually know that much about the challenger one.
	I haven't researched it.
	I just hit retweet because I thought that was a good tweet.
	But um, most of what I've looked into is like the moon, the moon landing.
	So yeah, I would talk to my clients about stuff like that and just entertain them.
	And some people, I think it's good because it opens your mind to like, you know, when you start to realize, you have to realize, and maybe this is what you're getting on, is that a lot of stuff that we think we believe we don't actually know.
	And once you kind of let go of that, like there's someone who's an expert and there's facts that we know for sure, and you start to question things, then you become a lot more open to, you know, like, uh, do I really need to take a medicine for that?
	Do I really, you know, you start to look at your body differently, you start to look at the world differently.
	So I won't even ask you if you think the earth is flat.
	We'll spare you of that question for this evening.
	Although the people in the comments may want to know.
	Here's the thing.
	I'm not really, I don't really get into space or anything like that.
	I like to joke about the flat earth thing.
	The one thing I will say though, because it all goes down to what you just said.
	I question everything now.
	I've been lied to so much in my life.
	I'd be naive to think I'm the only person that's been lied to his whole life.
	My guess is my father, my grandfather, my great-grandfather, my great-great-grandfather, my great-great-great-great-grandfather, my great-great-great-great-great-grandfather, my great-great-great-great-great times a hundred grand.
	I bet they got lied to about Bullcroft.
	crap too and then we just sit here and believe it not even realizing it's it's a thousand year old lie.
	So I I always I always question everything the one respect I have for flat earthers no matter what they will always debate you they will always debate you and I have so much respect for a person that has the convictions to stand up for their beliefs but I don't want to get into that what I want to get into is the culture wars.
	Who's winning the culture wars and are conservatives eating themselves?
	Let me just ask you first.
	I think people understand generally the culture wars we're talking about.
	Health, morals, values, principles, pride, patriotism, stuff like that, all kind of converging into these big political movements that seem to be separating like land masses.
	Who do you think is winning the culture war?
	Okay, so I don't even think, I don't even think
	think that there's really like a Republican and Democrat side when it comes to like the government and the political parties I think that what happens is that you know obviously like I I don't and I don't get too much into like the deep state or like you know as far as conspiracies about about that but it is true that you know they all work together and you know they kind of have come up with a political system that's very polarized.
	So it's like don't like abortion like abortion you know uh like social um you know like welfare systems and stuff like that doesn't like social offer systems so all the things that are front facing are very polarized but to me what you get no matter what is the same so they all go to Congress and you know it veers this direction a little bit because these ones are in but but but the under like underneath it all the same agenda is always marching forward.
	So I don't think when it comes to the actual government and the political parties that they even have a culture war against each other.
	Um for the most part I think that the government has its own agenda and everything's just kind of like you know it's gonna go the same same so let me rephrase it then let me rephrase it to make it a little more uh real world applicable and this might not actually apply to you I don't know uh do you send your son to school he might still be too young or do you are you gonna homeschool I was about to go to school um I wanted to homeschool him unfortunately that's not you know like you don't okay so perfect then decisions are never unilateral.
	So then here so then here is here's my question.
	When you send your kid to school are you worried about the culture what it's going to be like what he's going to be taught are you concerned that you may have to correct some things that he might even learn at school from say a teacher or a textbook so I'm not that concerned because there's a lot of factors for me that are going to be different than other people.
	I don't know.
	Do you know where I live right now?
	No.
	Okay.
	So I live in Louisiana and I was living in a city that was maybe a little bit more progressive.
	Um, but I actually moved to pick him a school out in the tiniest country, if that makes sense.
	So we have a very rural, um, red area, you know, that he's going to be going to school.
	So you're not worried about some, uh, teacher's guest called like the rainbow dildo monkey or anything like that?
	No.
	I not I'm not worried about that everybody I know some of the teachers at his school and everything people are very conservative um I do wonder you know if if that stuff makes it into like part of the curriculum you know I'm gonna have to look into that further I try to stay very like up with local politics and everything but I don't think it's anything that his teachers or like the school would be pushing.
	Now whether or not they try to like and I don't think in my state it would pass to even make it into like part of you know their curriculum or anything but um I definitely am going to stay like on top of figuring you know figuring out what they decide to teach and everything.
	that is a sign to me that's a sign that conservatives i would say are winning the culture war because people used to not even think about that they used to just drop their kids off at school and i'm not saying that would have been you but but just generally speaking i think parents are paying attention more now and even though the uh i think it's whacked out this this trans stuff this lgbtq stuff i think it's all whacked out even though they're bringing that into the curriculum and they're forcing that propaganda on the students now like you said parents are paying more attention.
	Legislation is getting filed.
	I feel like the momentum is starting to go the opposite direction.
	Now I'm gonna take a more directional approach with you on this on on some more direct things.
	I'm gonna have some starters here some tweets getting into more of the the relationship culture um because oh this is bad yeah not and not just the relationship culture as well but kind of the um well I let me let me just let me just go right into some examples of what I'm talking about.
	Let me see which one I want to start with.
	Well, let's start with this, generally speaking.
	So this is, I'm just pulling some tweets here, folks, as a starter.
	So there's this stuff that I'm witnessing.
	I'm sure you're witnessing it too.
	In this tweet, it says, the manosphere slash red pill community and trad Twitter are going to bring the fifth wave of feminism.
	So basically to put, to kind of get people in the chat, the manosphere is like the cultural movement of men taking back their part in the world being alpha men again and then the red pill community is like we're the way the great awakening we're informing people we're showing them the secret history and then the Trad Twitter I I think is mostly represented by females but it's this idea of you want to be a homemaker, you want to be a wife, you want to take a more traditional uh approach.
	And so it says this is going to bring fifth wave of feminism.
	And actually, I'm not going to say I agree in entirety with that.
	But I do think there is something to that.
	I am starting to see this movement where conservative, I mean, generally speaking, conservative women are becoming anti-man.
	And then men are, it's not like they're becoming anti-woman.
	It's not like there's like this.
	There's like this.
	Oh, we have to we have to go back to treating women like they're second class.
	citizens or something.
	I don't know that's kind of what I'm seeing.
	So there is something really weird happening because I actually am not a feminist woman although I was raised to think that like I should have a career I kind of realized like that was silly like as soon as I was pregnant with my son I was like why did I think this it's because again our parents were lied to so they lied to us you know they're like this is what you have to do and everything and um you know I also was raised in a very expensive area compared to I live now in a very cheap area.
	So it is different there.
	Like here you can just like you know side hustle your way through life very easily where I grew up you have to make about a hundred thousand dollars a year or you're gonna be starving.
	So um so there's that so I was never really like a feminist woman or anything.
	But what I've realized with the manosphere stuff.
	So there's like you know it's kind of like the Andrew Tate that whatever podcast and then this girl named Pearl uh first of all let me just say this about the whatever podcast I'm all for entertainment I'm a free market do you man in fact I'd rather have that than the reality TV garbage that older generations got but anybody can find a chick on Instagram and make her look stupid on camera.
	All right I'm just gonna leave it with that.
	I'm done.
	Yeah so that's kind of what they do and that's my issue is like there's a lot of polarization between men and women it's the exact same thing as like polarizing the right and the left so there's like a reaction from men and this is my issue when it comes to conservative men because conservative men want to believe you know as a lot of religious values and everything that men are the leaders of the family.
	And that's great.
	So if you believe that you are the leader then you take responsibility and I say this it goes it it's gonna go in that direction you know the man, the woman, the children.
	I as a woman and a mother you know if I say uh couldn't pay my bills or there was an issue with our life, I wouldn't turn around and Blame my child.
	I see myself as the leader.
	So if a man sees himself as the leader of the family, he can't say the marriage fell apart.
	It was all the woman's fault.
	You know, she's the problem and everything.
	They also have to take some ownership.
	And I think what's happening is a lot of men are becoming very anti-woman.
	Um, that I've seen at least when it comes to like some of those Andrew Tay and the red pill, there's a ton of talk about, you know, kind of looking at women as like, you know, um like women lose their value as they get older, things like that, and just being like very to me, it seems very anti-woman.
	Um, and in return, I think women are getting kind of anti-man, and there is just a whole issue there.
	So I would like to see a replacement of some of these people who really share like very divisive values, you know, like Pearl does that this a lot, and she's a woman, but she's pandering to men, you know, she'll say, like basically men should be able to cheat on women.
	You want a high value man, he he could cheat on you, you shouldn't break up with him and stuff.
	It's like what, you know, um, that's not really a good message, and it's not actually helping men to find a quality relationship because women don't actually think this only pearl just tells them that to like get grow her audience.
	Um, there are also women who are pandering, you know, to this like manosphere, red pill men that want to kind of have, you know, I guess like the patriarchy replaced, and they're saying things like, oh yeah, we should repeal the 19th amendment, women are ruining the country and stuff.
	They're just for the record, I think you want to know this for the record.
	Uh that was uh that was it's a lot of people, it's not just her.
	Well, I just want to know I invited her, I invited her.
	Um, she had to get permission from her publicist and couldn't.
	So unfortunately I couldn't hear from her.
	He's like her uh her husband.
	Okay, well, I I just tried to get her on because I wanted to talk to her about it because she she falsely called me out in a tweet and I was like, hey, let's talk about it.
	And then she's like, Oh, my publicist, but anyway, go ahead.
	Yeah, so she is one of those people, and she has a largely male audience, so it's very convenient for her to pander to something like that.
	Actually, somebody called her out with like a super chat on Alex Stein's show, and I laughed so hard.
	Um, they were like, if you don't think that women belong in politics and like voting and stuff, should you even be on the show talking politics about a man present?
	Um, and it was pretty funny.
	Same, you know, she's not the only one that says that.
	Isabella Moody says that.
	Um, who else?
	I don't know if I see it.
	No, no, no.
	I I see all of it.
	I I'm telling you, that's why that's why I'm bringing up this conversation.
	And because here's my problem with it.
	Most of the cultural debate now is happening in the fringe.
	It's happening in the fringe.
	And and I and I'd like to see it get back to the middle.
	And and and the problem is, and I understand this.
	I I've I've accepted this.
	That my approach is I'm not a purist.
	I I'm not a purist.
	Anyone who wants to be a purist in this world, you're going to be let down.
	I mean, it's just it's impossible.
	You live in an impure world, people are not perfect.
	So purists are always going to be uh upset with the world, and and it's and it's always just going to be that way.
	And if that's the choice, if you want to be a purist, then fine, that's how it's gonna be.
	But if you're gonna sit here and try to do commentary as a purist, then then you're just gonna exist in these fringes.
	So most of the conversations happening in these fringes on the left and the right.
	It's the same thing with this trans thing.
	This is this is all fringe bull crap.
	This is just all these this trans thing is fringe, fringe parents, fringe leftists that are totally crazy.
	And then this new uh, you know, we'll call it the trad manosphere.
	It's like fringe again.
	It's like total fringe stuff.
	It's like, hey, most of stuff is happening in the middle of this.
	Try to relate to those people.
	Yeah.
	So they don't.
	Here's the thing is that people are addicted to polarization, and that's why these people, you know, they grift like so hard one direction.
	Um, because it's just like the polarization of right and left.
	Like people want to be polarized.
	They're like, it's all this, it's not not, it's all that.
	I say the same thing, and no offense if you are like a carnivore or a keto diet, but those are the same thing.
	They're like reactionary to the I have a very strict diet.
	I have a very strict diet.
	I eat whatever I want.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I only want to eat healthy stuff.
	Well, that's good.
	But I mean, it's like they some of these people, you know, they're they're like, I was a vegan.
	Now I'm a carnivore.
	It's like, why did you not learn from being a vegan that polarization and you know, cutting out half the foods was bad for you?
	Like instead, they just like I cut out the wrong half of the foods.
	Now I have to go to the other half.
	When the truth is, like you said, somewhere in the middle is gonna be the healthiest for everything, like how you live your life, how you eat.
	Um, so it I don't know why people are just addicted to polarization.
	I have to only eat carnivore.
	I have to only eat protein and fats, or I have to only eat plant-based.
	Um, you know, or the same thing when it comes to like, you know, lifestyle voting, different stuff like that.
	So well, um, do you uh do you slunk raw eggs?
	No, I don't I did just post a video though, you probably didn't see it, but apparently some carnivore person says that you should put raw eggs and testicles in a blender.
	And I guess they I don't know what they were gonna do after that, drink them or something, but probably this is the side of stuff.
	I'm like, do you not think this is a psyop?
	Like they have you like drinking testicles.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Hold on a second.
	I am a huge proponent of raw eggs.
	In fact, I think it's the greatest life hack that nobody wants to talk about.
	Now here's the thing with the here's the thing with the Rocky Mountain oysters.
	There are there are actually positive health benefits of that, especially for low tea men.
	No, no, no, that's a real thing.
	No, I'm not saying that it's not.
	I personally, I don't think I'm injured, at least right now.
	I don't know.
	If I'm 60 and I'm like losing my my vitality or something, maybe I'll drink a bull testicle.
	I don't think so.
	Uh a lot of stuff that I've seen, it's like I don't know that the testosterone that you've taken orally is actually like doing anything.
	But I also like if you have hormonal issues, there's a lot of other stuff you can do.
	But like having like a good high fat diet like that does help, like eating at least like 30% calories from fat that will help with your hormone levels and everything.
	Um, so I'm assuming, you know, that they have lots of nutrients.
	Like, well, what I've noticed here, what I what I've noticed is really there's a couple things if you just cut out of your life, everything else will kind of follow.
	Um try to avoid frozen foods.
	Try to avoid, try to avoid fast foods, you know, anything processed.
	And then, and then once you've kind of started that like snacks that are unhealthy for you, like potato chips and stuff, that'll start to go away.
	Even when you eat out, you'll avoid worthless stuff like uh French fries.
	Um, and and so, but slowly you're you'll you'll kind of narrow your diet so that you're not thinking about it too much, you're not torturing yourself over what you can and can't eat.
	And I mean, I always tell people here's the key.
	Either you want either a caloric deficit or a a protein, whatever, like a max protein if you want to gain weight, if you want to lose weight, you gotta have a caloric deficit.
	You know, you gotta have a healthy diet, it all comes down to that.
	But it's I I think people try to complicate things too much, personally.
	Yes, and you're absolutely right.
	And um, cutting out gluten is actually really good too, and like inflammatory seed oils, like bad fats and stuff.
	Yeah, like just light beer, like quit drinking beer.
	It's horrible for you.
	Yes.
	And so 90% of like, or maybe even a hundred percent of the better that people feel um when they do these extreme diets is because of exactly what you said.
	You know, they cut out those processed foods that had lots of, you know, either refined sugar, inflammatory oils, gluten, um, chemicals, just tons of chemicals, food dyes, stuff like that.
	So they cut out all that, cut out the sugar.
	Um, those are the things that actually make them feel better, but then they're like carnivore save my life, or keto saved my life.
	Well, you yes, like you lost weight and you feel better, but you actually cut out more foods than you need it to.
	You cut out some healthy foods too, like fruits, vegetables, stuff like that.
	So um, and yes, like a caloric deficit, or what I like to do is teach people how to what you want to do is like re-comp, like after you've been dieting for a long time.
	What you need to do is focus on getting on a calories that is kind of like a maintenance, but for a lot of people, they would still lose weight if they're actually sticking to it.
	So it's not like a big deficit or anything.
	And then you kind of follow that for a little while, you know, as your body kind of lose loses weight to the point where it's like within the realm of what it should be, you know, like, say for a woman you get down to like the 20% men, it might be the teens or stuff.
	And then you're gonna start, you know, you're lifting heavy weights and everything.
	You're gonna start to add calories back to that and like maximize your metabolism.
	That's really the best way to go about it.
	And then, like you said, you can add protein and carbohydrates and stuff, um, and fats, of course, but in order to get to the point where you're like building muscle and your metabolism's really good, so you're losing fat.
	And that's kind of the way that I approach it with my clients.
	All right, I'm getting a notification here because I'm a because I'm a cheapskate and I have the free zoom that this is gonna end in 10 minutes.
	I I'm assuming I can just call you right back.
	I I don't know.
	We'll have to find out.
	We'll have to find out.
	I don't know.
	We'll play it by ear.
	You can I use it sometimes and you it'll still let you start a second one.
	Do you are most of your clients female or do you have male clients?
	I have 50-50 right now in our program.
	Um telling you, get the men on raw eggs, 12 a day.
	I'm telling you, slunk those raw eggs, man.
	You will not regret it.
	Yeah, raw eggs.
	I I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them, but I actually've been doing a lot of reading.
	So our uh program is so holistic.
	And um one of the things that we just cover with our clients last week was hair skin nails, like even for men who are like losing their hair from like you know, androgen, um, you know, uh uh androgen uh based, you know, hair loss, like male pattern baldness, basically.
	Um and so actually the biotin in eggs, which is so good for like hair, skin nails, all of it, it is better delivered if you cook even the yolk.
	Some people put the raw eggs right on their hair.
	Have you ever seen this?
	They just they just wash their hair with the raw eggs.
	Yeah, you can actually, there's a lot of stuff you can do topically, and I'm gonna give you guys, I don't know, you have a pretty big male audience.
	Probably, yeah.
	Most uh most formats like this are male, uh male dominated.
	So I'm gonna give you guys a good tip right now that I actually came across this is kind of like crazy, but um, for hair regrowth for men, you know, when it's male pattern baldness, there's actually um it's called DHT is like di had I don't know, top testosterone, but it's a testosterone derivative.
	I would have to re-remind myself the exactly.
	Is it uh that it's a consumable?
	No, so it's when your body processes, especially in a state of stress, when your body processes testosterone, it makes like derivatives of it.
	And one of those, it's called DHT, it actually is what kind of like attacks the hair follicles, basically, like those in your um hair follicle, like they damage it to where like you get male pattern baldness.
	So DH blockers actually help with that, and that's how monoxidil works.
	That's like what people use for uh for hair loss, like male pattern baldness.
	Olive oil is actually a DHC blocker too.
	And so you can actually do olive oil to your scalp, and it has like and I don't know like how effective it is.
	I couldn't find which makes me think that it's very effective when you can't find research articles on a natural thing.
	You're like, hmm, why are they avoiding this research?
	You know, um, but anecdotally, apparently it will help to block the DHC at the hair receptors and regrow hair.
	So um it's kind of the same type of thing as like that monoxetyl um medication, but without side effects and everything.
	So olive oil to your scalp.
	I thought it was very interesting.
	Yeah, and I don't know if you were on to the uh anti-seed oil kick like so many others are, including myself.
	I only consume extra virgin olive oil.
	So so here's another one.
	Um, getting back to the culture war stuff.
	I I'm noticing attacks like this.
	Again, this is a conservative.
	Uh Tim Scott announces he's running for president today.
	Uh, I have the same chance of Tim Scott as winning.
	I'm not running, but we have the same chance.
	Uh Tim Scott is 57, never married, no children, not to be harsh, but that's simply disqualifying.
	What what kind of in in my opinion?
	What kind of a horrible take is this?
	Like what why would you why would you immediately potentially toss out a good candidate, a good person for any position simply because they're not married at 57.
	I mean, it's just like, I don't what what what kind of purist mindset?
	This is see, and this is why conservatives lose the culture war.
	Yeah.
	And what they don't know is Grovert Cleveland was actually, although he had a lot of scandals, he was not married when he took office, like his first term as president.
	And then he got married when he was in office.
	And he was, I think he was 50 in late his late 50s, also.
	And um, so it's not like it's unheard of.
	That was actually the first and maybe only White House sweeting.
	Um then he skipped a term and then came back.
	But there's it is very silly.
	And people elected him because, you know, although he had weird personal scandals and stuff, his politics were so good.
	You know, they were considered so for the people and everything at the time.
	Um I don't I think that people get very, you know, judgmental, reactionary, and it's just that polarization thing again.
	They're like, if you're not married at 57, you don't have any kids, you're obviously, you know, they're thinking that puts you in the left category.
	You know, you're obviously not for family, you're not for traditional values.
	Like there's just too much of a polarization, and yeah, you could miss out on somebody good because of you know that line of thinking for sure.
	Yeah, it's like if you don't like his policy, okay, fine.
	But let's just let's just let's be uh a little easier here.
	And then um, and so I'm not gonna read this whole thing because the the point is uh is a point that I'm gonna be just making in general here.
	So, but this is part of the thing, it's this debate like, oh, should you get married in your 20s or 30s?
	If you're not married by 25, you're a failure, or men who want to marry younger, you're you know, you're weird, or girls who date all it's like all this stuff.
	And and you know, I I just like to take all of it and I'd like to cram it and I'd like to crush it into a simple deliverable message, which is everybody's life is unique.
	Everybody's body chemistry is unique, meaning the way you love, the way you uh the way you associate love, people's hearts have been broken.
	Some people have never been in real relationships.
	It's like this whole like we're gonna take the same approach to everybody in every relationship is going to be the same.
	Again, it's existing in the fringe.
	Everybody's experience with love and relationships is going to be different depending on their variable circumstances, and to try to put everything into these concrete wall paths.
	I don't know.
	I just keep seeing it from the conservative side.
	I keep seeing it from the political aisle that's moving the ball politically in the right direction.
	And I just want to say, hey guys, let's let's move all the balls in the right direction, and let's not create a culture that to people feels judgmental, intolerant, and not open-minded.
	Yeah.
	And it's just funny because they parrot a lot of this stuff, and it's absolutely not true.
	Like, and a lot of it is just Twitter.
	Um, I didn't know that people even thought this stuff to like are on Twitter like in November.
	But it's pretty funny because and I don't know how much of you know about me, but I'm actually about to be 37.
	Um, I'm divorced, I have one son, and it's so funny because people on Twitter will be like, literally just telling me you're a husband, no man's gonna ever want you, you're gonna be a and that's like it's so funny because that's just like Twitter, the way people talk on Twitter and the way that they think, and they're so polarized, and they're like women are done at 25 and all this stuff.
	And you know that isn't true, like it's just not true at all, you know.
	Um it's total BS.
	It's total BS.
	And so I like to think I'm like to these men, they're just trying to like uh cut women down so that they'll be like, oh gosh, I have to marry one of them before, you know, before I turn 26 or whatever, like what it what is the point, you know.
	And I I think it comes from that whole manosphere, you know, um, space, they're trying to kind of balance the you know men and the women or something, but it's like causing a lot of friction.
	I'm not for it, but it just is what it is.
	Yeah, I mean, I have I've I've had young people come to me for advice for a long time, and you know, I used to try to give relationship advice, but the more the more I would learn, the more it's it's like you you the the best advice you can get is no advice.
	It's like the best advice you can get is you gotta follow your heart.
	You you know, part of the part of the beauty of being alive here is you get the choice, you have the freedom to decide what you're going to do.
	So make that decision, own that decision.
	Uh so but but you know, the professional I I'd rather like I'd rather give people professional advice, and they and it looks like people are trying to kind of merge the two, is is what I'm noticing is people are trying to merge the two, like, oh, the way your professional life is gonna go is gonna coelate with your love life, your relationship life.
	Again, horrible advice, horrible advice.
	You might not have control over either of those things.
	You might have control over both.
	Good for you.
	You might not have control of either.
	So to me, it's like you have more control.
	I tell I tell young guys this is that yes, you should focus on yourself in your 20s.
	Absolutely.
	That doesn't mean that you can't get married or have a family.
	If that's what you want to do, then then more power too.
	You're gonna focus on yourself, you're gonna do that.
	And then by the time you're 30, you need to know that's when you need to know what you're gonna do with your life.
	That's when you need to know what you're gonna do with your life.
	And then you focus on that for your 30s.
	And then hopefully when you're in your 40s, you've got it down.
	You've you've got your life down, you're ready to go, you're moving on.
	And if not, then you gotta hit the reset.
	And you just gotta reset basically at 40 and say, okay, I, you know what, this didn't work out for me.
	I'm gonna go back.
	But you got plenty of time.
	That's kind of the approach that I take.
	I don't know if you want to respond to that before I get into our next starter here.
	Oh, definitely.
	Yeah, if you want to just send me a link to my email, open it back up as soon as it kicks us off.
	Oh, is it giving you a warning here?
	No, but I just know that it will cut off without saying anything because I've done this before.
	Use fascist Zoom.
	Yeah, so if you just I'll just open my email when it does.
	Um, so yeah, I if I could do things over, which I'm not oh, and there it is.
	She called it.
	She called it.
	That was getting juicy too.
	How are you guys enjoying this conversation?
	Uh this is Calena.
	Uh formerly known as the Liberty Chick.
	Uh, she does a program called the Six Week Reset.
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	All right, we were uh we were just interrupted right as you predicted we would be.
	Uh and I think you were about to talk about your personal situation, actually.
	Um yes.
	Okay.
	So I think um when I was younger, you know, I was like, okay, I'm gonna go to school, do this whole career, all this stuff, but it was never people in my life were like the thing that you're passionate about that you care about that you want to do, they're like, uh, that's not gonna work.
	You know, there was a lot of that.
	So uh the reason that I had to start over in my middle 30s was because I listened to all the chitter chatter.
	And so that would be my one advice To people is that if you have something that you're very passionate about, which I knew, I knew before I started PA school that the thing that I cared about all the time, which was working out, eating healthy, all that stuff, it was starting to get popular to a point where my friends were making careers, and that could have been me.
	But I had listened to like the peanut gallery so long that I was like just on this other path.
	I'm not saying that's bad because I learned a ton about the human body, how it works, you know.
	Um although the internet's bigger now, and I probably could have learned those things from the internet.
	Like it was good for me to learn in that way, very hands-on, old systems, everything.
	Um, but I definitely would encourage people, like if there's something you're passionate about, especially if you start to see it all that you're like, oh, this is starting.
	Other people are starting to look at this thing and realize how important it is.
	Um, I would say, like, don't listen to all the the doubters and the haters because you don't really want to be missing out on 10 years.
	Like I probably missed out on 10 years of a career in fitness.
	Um at least, yeah, 10 or 12 years that I could have been growing my actual passion and actual business and everything.
	But it's never too late to course correct, like you said, even if you're in your 40s.
	Um, so what about what about, you know, I think the one thing that uh is a debate on the female side.
	What about having kids?
	How much does that really impact your career?
	Uh, because to me, I I think that, you know, obviously you're gonna take time off, but I I don't think it's a problem.
	I think most women can come right back to their career field if they want.
	There's a lot more acceptance and understanding of that these days.
	Maybe, maybe some women become mothers and just don't want to work again.
	I what do you think about that?
	So, something I didn't know about because I was raised in Washington state, and there pretty much everyone waits till after their 30 to have children.
	Well, all my friends, pretty much everyone I knew.
	I think I had two friends that maybe had kids in their early 20s, you know, but they weren't married.
	It was just like a thing.
	Um, but most of the people that I knew that were like kind of family planning and stuff or planning to get married, it's like they didn't get married to their 30s and have kids till in their 30s.
	Some of my friends and stuff didn't even have kids like at all in their late 30s, like me.
	So that was what I thought life had to look like because that's what I was told, that's what I saw.
	When I went to Louisiana and I started working in the hospitals, I realized that down here, women get married at like 20, they have their babies, and then like a lot of them at least, and then they go back to school and become a nurse or get a career.
	Um, that was at least like half the women I knew.
	The other half went to nursing school, and you know, they were still having kids by their mid to late 20s and everything.
	But to me, that would have been a better route to go, you know, having your kids early and being able to focus on them for their younger years and then thinking about a career later.
	Um, that would have been probably a good route.
	But I didn't know that that was thing.
	So what about um what what about the uh the health aspect?
	You know, women are always women are always concerned about their bodies and what they're gonna go through, and can they ever get back to where they want to be?
	What would what would you say to women about that?
	Yes, you absolutely can.
	And I'm gonna tell you that because I I mean, when my son was born, I was 30, I think he was 30, I was 31 when he was actually born.
	So, you know, some people are like, oh, you know, if you're older, it's gonna mess you up.
	If you're younger, it's gonna mess you up.
	If it's you have too many kids, it's gonna mess you up.
	No, like it's not the child, because I worked with women, you know, like in the gym, other coaches.
	Uh, I think, you know, women with three kids, women with two kids, women with five kids, like, you know, all of them able to get back in shape and maintain everything.
	Um, so it's really has nothing to do with having kids at all, you know.
	Um, my metabolism and people try to say also, oh, your metabolism's just gonna slow down.
	My metabolism is not slower at, you know, almost 37, even it's bitter than it was in my 20s.
	So I don't know.
	I think I think, I mean, I don't know if it's fair to say you can reverse aging, but I think you can definitely slow the process to almost a standstill with proper diet and exercise.
	For sure.
	You can definitely um, like, I don't think I've aged a lot for that reason.
	Actually, with women, I almost think it's kind of funny that we have this idea that you're gonna gain weight with age because I've actually noticed like women who work out and stuff, they can more easily look leaner in their late 30s to 40s than they do even in their 20s.
	I think some of that is like the estrogen that your body carries, you know, when you're younger and everything.
	So a lot of things, if you play your cards right, can actually be like beneficial as you age.
	But but but our minds are trained to think that that's not how it works.
	So I look at um, you know, I look at, I look at like rock stars.
	I mean, I'll use like ACDC as an example here, the Rolling Stones.
	Like these guys, they're not even really healthy.
	They don't sleep well.
	Uh, you know that they were partying hard for a lot of their adult years.
	And yet some of these guys are rocking into their 70s and 80s.
	I mean, I saw ACDC play a show.
	These guys look like they came out in the in in uh wheelchairs and then they hopped up and started rocking rolling.
	So I think just being active is another big thing of it too.
	Like just stay active.
	Just even just little stuff.
	Just keep make something just get you out of the chair, get and make you feel like you got a purpose every day.
	Get active.
	Yes.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Um, so there's such a balance with movement.
	Like you don't actually want to overtrain and stress your body.
	I think the reason that a lot of, you know, and people can say whatever conspiracy they want about, and I won't get into that because I know it's just shows like when it comes to conspiracies, but uh we're wide open here.
	Yeah, well, celebrities and something, you know, they'll talk about like adrenochrome or they do stuff like that to stay young.
	Oh, they brag about the blood of the youth.
	They love children's blood.
	It's so creepy.
	But I will say that there's something else you have to think about when it comes to celebrities and aging, and it's not just surgeries and stuff like that.
	Another thing is like stress.
	A lot of them, they obviously have a lot of money.
	They have people to do stuff for them.
	And so if you can manage your stress, um, you're not gonna show your age as much.
	A lot of the the aging that we see comes from stress.
	And um, you know, so I know you said they don't sleep and stuff like that, but they probably also don't have like the kind of like everyday stress that a lot of people have.
	You know what that yeah, that that is uh that is so key.
	And and I know people they don't think they can control their stress, but you really can.
	And I'm not saying it's easy, and then look, I'm not I I'm not some big uh, you know, like oh meditation hippie, I'm not.
	But no, but really, if you can, if you can let's say control your own mind, you can even control your own biochemistry.
	You really can.
	You can you can limit your own stress levels when you when you have that control over your mind.
	I mean, I don't know how else to explain it than that.
	Yes.
	And stress has so many effects because that's the cortisol.
	So yes, your body or your mind acts absolutely controls how much cortisol goes through your body and everything.
	Um just like I was talking about with the hair loss.
	If those people, you know, a lot of people that have that androgen drives like uh hair loss, they wouldn't have that conversion to the DHT from testosterone if they didn't have the cortisol and the stress.
	So that's like an outward appearance of um, you know, it shows some of the stress in your life.
	Same thing with like a lot of people that gain weight around the middle.
	Um, that is, you know, constant cortisol, constant stress.
	And um, same thing, even if you have like an illness, you know, even things like cancer, chronic illnesses and stuff.
	There's a lot of research that shows that like you actually do better, you know, maybe not a hundred percent better, like it's like a cure end-all be all, but you do better if you have an attitude that believes you're gonna do uh better, get better, get healthy and stuff.
	Um that you'll have less illness than like people who believe that it's gonna go wrong or don't believe.
	So there is like an also kind of like unseen mind body connection too um that there's a lot of research about.
	All right, let me let me uh let me get back into uh some of the the content driven stuff here.
	Yeah, here's just more the same like, oh, you know, fall in love here, fall in love at 18, marry 22, have children 25 later, you 25 years later you went, hey, Great for you, Calti.
	You and your husband look wonderfully happy.
	Seriously, you look about as happy as you two can possibly be.
	But again, not everyone's gonna fall in love at 18, and not everyone's gonna get married at 22.
	And I would not suggest people forcing that on themselves.
	Oh, here we go.
	I love this one.
	I'm sure you feel a lot of sympathy here.
	Kim Kardashian opens up about the struggles of being a single parent.
	There are nights I cry myself to sleep.
	Now, look, I I'm not trying to uh lessen uh perhaps what what single parents might go through.
	However, I I cannot say I ever have any sympathy for Kim Kardashian.
	Uh I don't know though.
	What about you, Kalina?
	Well, I think what's so funny is that Kim Kardashian can say that, but it's like obviously we know Kanye was like trying to get back with her all the time.
	So it's like you chose what you chose.
	Second of all, like when it comes to the stresses of being a single parent, most of them are either financial, which she doesn't have, or not having like other people around you to help you, you know, like you don't have like a good network and stuff, and she has like seven sisters or whatever, they all live next door.
	So I don't know.
	Like I mean, I think at the end of the day, people always need something to like feel emotions towards.
	And so I guess that's her thing that she feels emotions about.
	But um, as far as like the stresses of single parenthood, I don't know.
	I don't think let me let me let me ask you this question too, because I I I've noticed this a lot.
	People will complain about uh well, maybe let's say Kim Kardashian saying she's a single parent.
	Well, now hold on.
	Yeah, how many maids do you have, Kim?
	How many cooks do you have?
	You're not a single parent.
	If you have maids and cooks, to me, I'm sorry, you're not a single parent.
	You might not be with your, you might not be with the father or the whatever child, but to me, a single parent is somebody who does it all.
	You're cleaning, you're taking care of the kid, you're driving them to school, you're cleaning the house, you're cooking, you're doing everything.
	If you have people doing all that for you, then I don't think that it's proper to be like, oh, I'm a single parent.
	No, there's actual real single parents out there.
	Yeah, and I mean, she has like obviously, you know, her mom, her sisters, everybody around her.
	So it's not like she's like isolated or doesn't have other people like, and I'm sure they have nannies too.
	Um, but you know what I'm saying.
	Like her life is so different than our lives, and what she sees as like a stressor or like an emotional thing would be so different, you know.
	And I try to be nice about stuff because I think people's experience in life is so different.
	And I'm not saying like to Kim Kardashian specifically, but I've just noticed this like with people that I interact with and stuff in daily life.
	Like what stresses out one person and what they think is like a big deal in the end of the world and stuff, can be totally different based on their life circumstances than what somebody else thinks is like not even a big deal, you know, just something you deal with on a daily basis.
	And it just it has to do with like adapting to your circumstances.
	So well, apparently uh Kim is having a hard time adapting to her circumstances here.
	I guess maybe I Kanye really misses her.
	I I have to tell you.
	Uh I have to tell you, he uh when he when I met him that he couldn't stop talking about how much he missed her.
	Uh yeah, so here's another one.
	We're we're we're wrapping it up with the uh didn't we get married to somebody else?
	I'm so confused.
	Yeah, apparently, apparently, I don't know if that's real or not, though.
	I can't really tell these days.
	It's such a goofy situation there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know, here's here's here's more of the stuff.
	And I mean, this is a little more innocent.
	But but I do see the people actually debating over this wearing pajamas at the air short airport should be illegal.
	I can't fathom having so little going on that I care what someone else is wearing at the R. So I'm seeing a lot of just menial stuff like this.
	But you hit on it earlier, so I really don't um I really don't need to rehash it too much.
	And uh an inspiration mind Rush Limball always warned about this coming up in the radio era now with the internet era, folks, everybody's got a platform now.
	Everybody's got a platform and everybody can figure out how to use it.
	And so unfortunately, a lot of uh opinions that probably shouldn't get a big platform are getting a big platform, and this is causing again to in my opinion, this is causing us to go into the fringe.
	Yeah.
	So I actually will comment on that because it's not just this, and I don't remember who made the pajamas be.
	Um, but it's not just I like Ashley St. Clair.
	It's nothing against her.
	Yeah.
	And I thought it was a silly tweet too.
	But Candace Owens actually started this uh a few months ago.
	Oh, the yoga pants thing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But she then talked about it even in the airport too.
	She she talked about it like four or five times, you know.
	And actually, Candace even tweeted asking about the 19th amendment thing, you know.
	Um, so they all kind of perpetuate these extreme ideas.
	I when it comes to Candace bringing up the yoga pants, you know, she's like in America, like, you know, people don't have pride in themselves anymore.
	They shouldn't be, they should be dressing nice and everything.
	And then she goes on to talk about, you know, like with her kids, or or like different scenarios where people are thinking they have to wear yoga pants because maybe they're and I feel like she said like maybe they're a nanny.
	I'm like, no, Candace, like this is why you're not an influencer anymore.
	Like most people don't have a nanny, they are the nanny, they're wearing the yoga pants.
	That's exactly what I'm talking about.
	Yes, they have to take their own kids.
	They had to get those kids ready.
	Like she's talking about going out to the diner with her husband and her well-dressed kids and stuff.
	I'm like, you know what I'm saying?
	Most of the mom had to get the kids ready, get herself ready.
	She's just trying to survive here.
	Like, there's no one to like prepare the baby bag or any of that stuff.
	And um, so I just thought it was pretty funny.
	And I think there's like a lot of disconnect with some of these like influencers where they get so rich and they they become like another class, you know, all of a sudden they're media, like real, just like the regular media where they have millions of dollars and all that stuff, and then they're trying to like pass on to us, like, oh well, you guys shouldn't be living like this anymore.
	And it's like, you don't even understand, you know, we don't live the same life.
	I'm gonna wear my yoga pants, like you do you're like Kim Kardashian right now, complaining about being a single parent.
	So here's I I can wrap up this whole airport attire debate in in it it all comes down to this.
	If the TSA would stop raping us just for walking into the airport, then people might not be so inclined to wear sweatpants.
	I'll tell you, if I'm if I've got a wacko travel schedule or I gotta be there early or something, and I don't have to be somewhere directly when I land, I'm wearing sweats.
	I'm not putting on a belt, I'm not putting on shoes I gotta take off and retie and put on.
	I'm not putting on a watch that I gotta put on and take off.
	It's obnoxious.
	So if people want to the reason why people used to dress nice at the airport is because you could dress nice at the airport and you weren't gonna get groped by some TSA agent.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I forgot about the taking everything off because personally I wear yoga pants all the time without shame.
	I don't care, but that is true.
	Like if you do have regular clothes, they are gonna be beeping you and feeling filling for you know, metal and stuff like that.
	So yeah, that's funny.
	All right, let's see if there's anything else here.
	All right, innocent enough, yada yada.
	Let's see here.
	Oh, okay.
	You know, this is another one.
	I think this is a good one here.
	Final, final uh final content here.
	So my baby mama is lucky to have a dad like me.
	I'm like the mama, because I take him to all his dentists and doctors' appointment, basketball practice and games, back to school nights and assemblies, help with all this homework, yada yada yada.
	This is a father saying how good of a father he is.
	And this guy responds, he says, What's funny is when someone's an active father, it's always dismissed as the bare minimum.
	However, women will list all them things he did and call it tasking slash exhausting.
	So which one is it?
	Now, again, this is a conversation going into the fringe.
	Um because I think for most people, look, you you you find a way to amicably spit split the duties.
	Maybe one spouse or parent is better at one thing than the other.
	Maybe it depends on schedules.
	So again, this is going into the fringe.
	However, I I do think this ties into what we were talking about earlier.
	When it when it comes to now in and again, this is all happening inside the conservative movement.
	The left, the left wing is chopping off, you know, kids' private parts and stuff.
	So they're not even really having this.
	And that's why I'm trying to corral this conversation to get it a little more centered, so we don't end up having these debates in the in the fringe and and lose the middle.
	And it's it seems like it's again, it's this anti-man anti-woman stuff.
	It's like it's like the man should have all these expectations for the woman, and damn it, that's how it's gonna be.
	But the woman should sit over here and resent the man if he's not doing everything and you should.
	And it's like, what why are we doing this to each other?
	We're supposed to be the sane side here.
	Yes.
	And I absolutely agree with you.
	So, yes, there's here's the thing, what that I'm like them the it's like the men are so angry at the women, and uh I have to say, like I think that the men need to chill out.
	That's my point.
	I actually don't see and and I could be wrong.
	You're a man, maybe you can tell me that you see women, you know, on the right, saying like men don't earn enough, they're not tall enough, they're not good.
	Like, do you see women?
	No, I do see that.
	I I I see that again, that's fringe.
	I think we're left wing.
	Well, I again I I kind of see that more on the right wing, and I consider it fringe.
	Like I said, the left wing, I don't really I don't really see any sanity coming from it.
	But but that's not even my point.
	I think I think it gets back down to expectations, right?
	I think it gets back down to expectations.
	And and really, this all kind of stems from this whole Disney princess phenomenon that I think is like targeted at women that think, hey, you're gonna marry a prince and everything's gonna be happy, whatever.
	And so so, really, what I think this comes down to is this this expectation from both sides.
	And again, it's a purest mentality, it's a purest mentality.
	Like you think you're gonna be an alpha male, and and you think you're gonna be able to do whatever you want with women, and they're just gonna have to placate to your desires.
	And I guess this is where you know the pearl thing comes in.
	I guess she supports this idea.
	And then I see the same purity on conservative women.
	It's like if men don't basically men don't do exactly what they do to step in line and do all this stuff, then they're not a high value man, and you shouldn't waste their time.
	So, what ends up happening is I notice that most that most of these women that have these takes are all single.
	It's like hey, I'm not trying to be rude here, but you know, maybe you're single because your ideal man isn't out there.
	Yeah, and same thing with the men.
	I've never really seen, and you have to send me or something like so.
	I can see some of these right wing women that say stuff like that.
	Because I never really seen it, I only really see the pearls and the manosphere stuff.
	But you never know with social media.
	It's like it algorithm gives you the thing that's gonna make you mad.
	Yeah, it's amazing how it does that, isn't it?
	The damn thing.
	Yeah, it does it on purpose.
	But um, so here's my thing with men and women that I think that people are missing, because there's like a huge reactionary issue, you know, where men are like, you know, basically we make better single parents than women, and women, you know, are like men are just deppies and all this stuff.
	So I think men and women are different.
	Men, in my opinion, um, actually, like when it comes to children, they're gonna be like a better disciplinarian.
	And this might not be the same for every couple, but better disciplinary and usually like a good role model.
	Um, but truthfully, you know, men typically are gonna be more focused on their career and bringing in money to the household and then like setting a structure.
	Women usually do more of the healing type stuff, and I think that that's actually really good.
	Um, and like the maintenance for children.
	So most of the time, women are the ones doing the doctor's appointments, doing the dental appointments, but that's not bad.
	Um, and of course, every family is not going to really work like that.
	But I think if men and women can kind of see each other in like not like this is all the man's role and this is all the women's role, because it's just too late for that.
	Like our society, same thing with like women not voting, like that's not just not gonna happen.
	So it becomes like you said, fringe to even just go around and suggest and it just alienates people.
	Um, but I do think what I'm seeing is that men don't want to be seen as like a paycheck anymore.
	And women don't want to be seen as like I only bring something to the table for my looks or my youth, or um, you know, chat, like I guess I don't know about child ring, but like they want everybody wants to be seen a little bit differently.
	And so I think if men and women can try to understand each other as like when I look at men, I'm thinking, you know, men bring a lot to the table beside from just it's not all money, like sometimes men are just very good at you know fixing things, doing things hands-on, dealing with problems, and you know, sharing more of like as a woman, like what I see valuable about men.
	I try to ask a lot on my Twitter of just men's advice, and I get so much good advice that I would never get from women, you know, what lawmowers should I buy?
	What do you guys think about this?
	What do you think about this car thing?
	You know, and it's so amazing how much men have to offer.
	I think that if with men see women in the same sense of like, oh, it's not just about like, you know, what woman you uh date or marry or whatever.
	Like women in general have so much knowledge about like healing and you know like that's like health, nutrition, anything like that.
	Um a lot of women, you know, not every woman, but I think we're naturally like when we're in tune with ourselves, like in our intuition, women are natural healers.
	We have a lot of good advice about that, children, things like that.
	Um you know just like self-care and everything.
	So I I think there's a lot to be said for like seeing each other as like the values instead of like the negatives you know if that makes sense.
	I think it's all about chemistry and and I might have a little cold take on this but I when I think about marriage, I mean, yeah, I'm thinking about where you know you are entering a contract and so I I'm not saying to approach it like a professional business or the corporate world, but no,
	I mean you're entering a contract there needs to be you know some negotiations about what this is going to be like because I guess I'd put it like this and I'd like to know what it what it's like on the female side of this because on the men's side here here's what I hear because I'm I'm of the age now where like guys are deciding am I going to get married or not?
	You know and what the big complaint on the men's side and I hear it every time when I talk about this and men say, well why would I get married?
	The whole system is rigged against me.
	And so what's the point of entering marriage?
	And so we can debate whether that's a legitimate claim or not but that's how men are feeling right now.
	And I and I do think you can't you can't deny that the the the current marriage system is broken.
	More than half of marriages in the United States end in divorce my parents are divorced.
	And so something something is obviously not right there.
	Is it our approach?
	Is it our civilization and and the values and the principles is it the damn feminist uh obviously something's not working.
	So yeah I mean I would definitely I would not advise a man to just blindly enter a marriage um even if you are head over heels in love.
	And you know maybe that's the other problem too is we don't properly address love.
	We don't talk about love.
	We don't teach love we don't we don't explain what it does with age but I'm not having that debate.
	What is the what is the complaint you hear on the female side of the aisle what do females say when they're like talking about marriage so I think that it's actually kind of funny that men even say that like why would it okay you don't have to get married but here's the thing like I guess if you are a traditional man who wants a wife and you think she's gonna stay at home and you're building everything together it doesn't make sense as the man to be like all of this is mine,
	you know, and if we if we get divorced we're not splitting everything like why would the woman marry you then and know that if you leave her or things don't work out because maybe you become very difficult or something like that.
	Why would she want to be in that situation knowing she never worked and has nothing for herself and she's gonna be like thrown aside you know so I think that looking at it like that is kind of very self-protective and it's fine if you want to marry a woman who has you know if if you're thinking that and she works and you work and it's like you want to just split and everyone keeps their own stuff.
	I also think that people think of marriage very cynically because it's not a fact to think like one person accumulated everything.
	Now, I guess if you just go to work and you say you're the man, you're the only one that works and you put all the money in the savings account and everything.
	Meanwhile, your wife is taking care of the kids, saving you money on child care, all those things.
	I guess maybe you could say like this is my money and not her money or something.
	But when you start to accumulate assets in a marriage, both people actually, you know, in a good marriage where both people are driven and stuff.
	A lot of times, which is this was our case when I was married.
	I still worked.
	I didn't work as much.
	But all the things we accumulated, it's not like those were my husband's property.
	We did that together.
	You know, he makes some money.
	I use my credit.
	We go buy something.
	I maintain it.
	Then I do this work.
	He does this work to it.
	It's not like why would he think he didn't have any of that stuff when we met.
	So for unless you're a man who's already built a lot of assets and stuff for yourself like it's silly to be like, why would I get married and none of that belongs to, you know, so do you think do you think that's um do you think that's a cold place then for for men to approach from a marriage to think uh because it sounds like we actually kind of agree, we just maybe have a different approach.
	It's like, hey, no, we let's let's have a let's have an agreement here about what we're entering into under this contract, and and let's let's make sure that moving forward, we're both okay with it.
	Yeah, so it's a recipe for unhappiness to see the other person as something that's like, you know, they're just gonna detract if you're already, you shouldn't, if you think that you shouldn't get married.
	That's my opinion.
	If you're already thinking, oh, why would I get married when the woman's just gonna take half my stuff?
	Well, it sounds like you probably shouldn't get married because you don't have like a uh uh mindset of like you're you want to serve your family and everything, you're worried about being self-protective.
	And I'm not saying that, yeah, like if you find somebody that you really believe that you should marry, that you trust them, you love them and stuff.
	Um, I don't think that people should be so cynical.
	Now, granted, like I said, if you're already a person with a lot of assets, you have to also pick more carefully than if you're somebody just starting off and you build stuff together.
	You know, that's why, like, I think one kind of manosphere type thing that people try to say is like every man just wants like a 20-year-old or something.
	Well, I use like Jeff Bezos and his girlfriend, you know, as an example.
	She's 53, she obviously has her had her own career, she has her own money, she's divorced, she has children.
	But he didn't pick someone that he's gonna have to like take care of, if that makes sense.
	Um, and I'm not saying they're gonna get married and have to split assets or anything like that.
	But I think when a man is established, he needs to pick somebody who's not just necessarily trying to like mooch off of him for sure, you know.
	Um, but as far as like if you're 20 and you get married and you grow your business together and you know, you end up making a lot of money because your wife is doing all the home duties and stuff, like it's very cynical to think like none of that is shared asset.
	Um, from a woman's standpoint, women can say the same thing, you know, obviously, like, why would I get married when I also have to work?
	A lot of women feel that they have to work even when they have kids.
	So yeah, you could be like, why would I, you know, get married when I'm still gonna have to work, I'm still gonna have to do all, you know, a lot of this stuff with the children and everything.
	Like, how does that benefit me?
	Um, so I think it's from both sides.
	And I don't really have an answer for it, you know, as somebody who hasn't even figured out, you know, at the end of the day.
	You know, I I think because I wanna I want to stop you because I think that the answers are actually all in our culture.
	They really are.
	I think and just our our society in general.
	I mean, a lot of this to me, and I'm not trying to generalize here.
	I I truly believe a lot of this stems from the corruption at the top.
	You know, the corruption at the top is what's hurt the country.
	It's what made it, it's what makes it harder for men to make money.
	It's what makes it so so like this is the word you were using self-protection.
	I think that's accurate.
	I think so many men my age have seen guys older than them lose their stuff in divorce or or just get divorced in general, whether they lose their stuff or not, they just talk about how miserable divorce is.
	And so it becomes a self-protection mechanism, unfortunately.
	And I don't want to go too much further down this conversation because I don't want to let you go here when this next section expires in about um in about nine minutes.
	I will say on the second amendment thing, I don't, I don't uh I don't think women shouldn't vote, but I do actually think we should reform our voting system.
	And here's why.
	And and it could be a woman or a man.
	There are people that go to the voting booth and they are idiots.
	I mean, they are just moronic.
	I really do believe there needs to be some form of an IQ test, or or maybe what like for example, why why should I who who pays, I don't know how much money in property tax every year, I'll vomit if I knew the number.
	Why should somebody who doesn't pay anything, nothing in property taxes have the same say as I?
	Maybe somebody can make a legitimate argument for that, but I don't know.
	Why should somebody that has a quarter of my intelligence get the same vote as I when they can vote me into slavery?
	So I don't know.
	I I'm not necessarily like anti-woman voting per se, but I don't know.
	I think we could maybe change some things to fix the problems.
	I mean, I think the opposite would happen.
	So Say, yeah, say you said none of the renters can vote, only landowners can vote.
	Well, yeah, that would be very convenient for landlords.
	You know, I've been a landlord.
	Imagine if I could just vote and all the laws skew towards me.
	That's not very fair either.
	Some people don't own property because, you know, of a lot of different reasons.
	It doesn't mean they don't contribute to society.
	So I don't, I never buy the property ownership one, although I'm a property owner.
	I could say I should get to vote.
	Um, and no, you know, nobody nobody else should that rent.
	And then I would, you know, not that I would personally, but what could happen is then we start to make all the laws like, you know, slant our direction.
	So and plus, and and plus, because this gets into what I was saying earlier.
	Our, I mean, we've got a problem in our economy where it's harder to own stuff.
	It was a lot easier to own something 50 years ago or 100 years ago.
	Now it's really hard to own stuff.
	Yeah.
	And um, yeah, so, but I don't think that they should take away anyone's right to vote because then those people will always become oppressed by the others, if that makes sense.
	Even if you're saying like unintelligent people, you know, all only the intelligent people are gonna vote.
	Well, you know, very intelligent people are in government and they're just oppressing us.
	So and you can always, they can always I don't know how intelligent they really are.
	Well, intelligent enough to oppress, you know, the citizen.
	So they're obviously, you know, if they're making all the money and their uh things are going their direction and they have these systems, like there's some intelligent intelligence there.
	So I think uh whenever you want something kind of authoritarian like that, it always ends up coming around full circle and getting used against the group that you don't want it to get used against.
	So I wouldn't really advocate for anything like that.
	I do think that our system doesn't, you know, it's obviously not great, but I think a lot of that has to do more with the uniparty and lobbyists and everything like that.
	Yeah.
	Take away their to have so much say before anything else.
	No, absolutely.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	It's it's the it's the centralized power sucking the wealth, the property, the future away from the people.
	And again, that's where I really think a lot of this stuff stems from.
	I think that's where marriage problems stem from.
	I think that's where financial problems, economic problems, voting problems, it really does all stem for that.
	And that's why my main drive here, and I don't know how much of my work you've ever seen or follow.
	My main drive, the thing that drives me every day is to, I mean, maybe my hope is dwindling.
	Not really, though.
	I actually see, I actually see impact is we've got there's no way we're destined, there's no way we're doomed to be conquered and ruled by this demonic government.
	I just do not believe that.
	I believe in informed people, peacefully taking actions can save this planet.
	I say peacefully because that's my goal, but I mean, no, I don't think we're doomed to be conquered by some centralized bankers, some centralized world government.
	I don't think we're doomed to be slaves to this forever.
	We're deeper into this than we even realize.
	But you know, that's my driving force.
	I think that a lot will never solve all the world's problems, but I think a lot of the stuff we deal with society-wise would be solved if we could actually root out the government corruption or the uniparty, the deep state, whatever people want to call it.
	I think a lot of this stuff like dominoes would start to fall into place.
	Uh, Colina, I thank you for your time tonight.
	If there's anything else you want to let us go with, uh, feel free here or tell people where they can follow your stuff.
	The comments are blowing up.
	I know when I open up the phone lines, they're gonna go crazy.
	Um, but uh just final departing words.
	Okay, yeah, definitely you guys find me over on Instagram, that Liberty Chick, Twitter, THT Liberty Chick.
	I guess it was too long otherwise.
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	Um, then reach out to me and join our reset for July.
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	So um definitely if y'all need any help in that department, men, women, we help both.
	So all right, Colina, thank you so much.
	It was a great conversation.
	People liked it.
	Yes, thank you so much.
	It was awesome.
	Thank you for having me.
	All right, good night now.
	So there we go.
	Uh there we go, ladies and gentlemen.
	I'm now going to open up the phone lines.
	I'm sure people are gonna be calling in.
	But what do you think?
	I mean, look, I've been I've been wanting to get more into the cultural debate lately.
	More so, not even that I'm into it that much.
	I got my own life.
	I got my own culture.
	I like where I'm at as far as that's concerned.
	I just don't like where the conversation is going right now.
	And specifically on the conservative side of the aisle.
	And I I actually think that the conservative movement made a lot of ground up when it comes to the intolerance debate.
	And and and the conservative movement has finally gotten to where politically policy wise we can say that we're centered.
	But if we start going down the road of political purism and cultural purism, then you're gonna lose all that ground you gained.
	And whether you're intolerant or not isn't gonna make a difference.
	That's gonna be how the movement is labeled.
	And all they'll need is just a couple examples.
	So yeah.
	We're gonna be talking more culture stuff, I think around here, having more debates on this issue, but getting real with it too.
	You know, that's the other thing.
	It's just it's so much unrealism, it's so much fringes that uh it just it needs to get stirred back into the middle.
	Otherwise, you are we are going to lose to the left because they are truly united.
	They are truly united.
	And I just feel like the conservative movement has drained so much ground towards the middle, even if we don't see it represented yet, we've gained it.
	We've had it.
	It's ours now.
	Let's not let it go.
	Let's not let it go.
	And I'm starting to see it slip.
	I'm starting to see it slip.
	But it's still early, I gotta say.
	It's still early, all things considered here.
	So the phone lines are open.
	7 47, 255 60.
	It's right there on the screen in front of you.
	And uh I have been monitoring the comments tonight.
	We're responding sometimes on the keyboard.
	Uh, but now that my guess is gone, we may even respond uh right here through the Wolfpack.gold microphone.
	Uh, but first caller of the night.
	Here we go.
	What's your name?
	Where are you from?
	What's up, Mike?
	How are we doing tonight?
	Bye.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I always forget to do that.
	Uh, you know, I always forget to do that.
	I'm such a such a bomb.
	I'm such a bomb.
	All right, Mike.
	Mike was uh getting groceries tonight, y'all.
	Do you think he got some eggs to slunk?
	Mike, I hope so.
	Next caller, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Hey, Bart.
	How are we doing?
	Oh, you know, I'm all right.
	Now I'm thinking about slunking some raw eggs.
	That a boy.
	That a boy.
	All right, now hold on a second.
	Apparently, uh apparently we're having an audio issue here, guys.
	Let me uh let me see, guys.
	All right, hey, uh Bart, give me a give me a test here.
	Let's see if we got your audio.
	Guys, can you hear him?
	Uh can you hear me now?
	Let's see here.
	We're gonna we're gonna pretend that they can hear you at least for now.
	Okay, so are we talking about what that young lady was talking about?
	Or is it open?
	Sure.
	I mean, you can talk about whatever you want.
	Well, I'll tell you, I I'm I'm I'm like 57 and married, divorced, had one kid, and going getting divorced is like Go into your own funeral.
	I I'll never do ever put myself in that position again.
	I don't care how wonderful the woman is.
	It's just not worth the risk.
	It's sad, man.
	It's sad, Bart, because I hear the same thing.
	I hear the same thing.
	And you know, I'm not gonna act like I don't make stupid decisions.
	I do, but you know, I try not to.
	Yeah, well, you know, it's just until they change the the laws in the United States pertaining to child custody and the you know, divorce and all that.
	Men get the shaft pretty much.
	Oh, this is what I was telling.
	This is what I'm talking about.
	The men I talk to of all ages.
	This is this is the main complaint we get about marriage.
	Oh, speaking of that, I haven't had a chance to talk to you.
	Undead Chronic got raided by the FBI, and then I mean to stay pal.
	Uh that name is familiar.
	Can you refresh my memory?
	Uh I briefly uh gave him a shout out on the war room, I don't know, about a year ago.
	Um we were trying to set up uh you going on his channel, but he got he got his door kicked in by the by the feds a couple days later, and he I don't know, you know.
	What did he do?
	He got raided too.
	Well d do you know why?
	Well, they're mid-towel, men going their own way.
	Um like the undead chronic on his page that says no hymen, no diamond.
	And a lot of people don't like that.
	I've never heard that one before.
	Yeah, well.
	Um but the feds don't don't like you know, men thinking for themselves, I guess.
	No, and and look, I'm not um I'm not fully on board the Tatism stuff personally, but I I get why men get into that.
	I I really do.
	And again, I think this all stems because really we've just got so much political rot that it leads to cultural rot, and then it leads to personal rot.
	And so that's why I attack the political angles.
	Um but but again, the reason why I like having these conversations is for the same reason you called in right now, Bart.
	I I don't want to hear from fringe people that have a Twitter following, like they're experts on life or relationships.
	Okay.
	I'm not even claiming I'm the expert.
	I'm saying let's have a real conversation about this.
	Yeah, well, all I can say is my advice to younger men is not to get married for legal reasons.
	That's just my point of view.
	But anyway, thank you, Owen, for having me on your show.
	It's been wonderful.
	Thank you, Bart.
	Yeah, women don't like to hear that.
	Women don't like to hear that.
	And it's funny because I know about this Pearl girl.
	I I don't really listen to her stuff.
	I I got a little more insight uh from our guests tonight.
	Um but see, uh you know, here here's the thing.
	Here's the thing, folks.
	This is just this is just the way I see it, and quite frankly, I believe it to be true.
	You can knock Tate for what comes off as as maybe arrogant or pompous or misogynistic, and you can knock Pearl for what comes off as anti-woman or or however you want to say it.
	But folks, I'll tell you right now.
	I bet you that men and women that actually take dating advice from Tate or Pearl probably do better than people that take dating advice from the purists.
	But it all depends on what you want.
	It all depends on what you want.
	All right, next caller.
	What's your name?
	Where you're from.
	Hey, Owen.
	Yes, hello.
	Hey, this is Laura Clong from New York.
	Hi, Laura.
	How are you doing?
	How did you enjoy that conversation tonight?
	It's kind of a little off-putting.
	You know, I'm sitting here with my husband.
	We're very, very big fans.
	Um, you know.
	This is stuff.
	Uh, you know, I know it's a little risky to have this conversation, but I mean, I think everybody else is blowing it.
	I I I gotta be honest with you, and uh when I was kind of turned off about, you know, just uh kind of quite half of of her interview, and you know, in the last part, something just caught my attention where she said that, you know sh her and her she was driven, and that's why her and her husband both worked.
	So my husband and I both work.
	Um when we were dating, we both worked, we got married, we both work, and I just kind of feel like a marriage is a partnership.
	Um, and you're a team when you get married.
	And I think you gotta come to an agreement together on how you want that team to work.
	Does the husband work and the wife stay home?
	Does the wife work and the husband stay home?
	Do you both work?
	Do you both care for the kids?
	You know, I just I just think that, you know, uh unfortunately it doesn't always work that way with people, but I feel like when you work as a team, then it the marriage can work and and things can be good.
	So do you think um do you think I was a little cold because again, uh it sounded like we're kind of agreeing, but maybe with a different approach, is that you know, you you you want to approach this like you you use the uh the phrase a team, and so you want to approach this like you're a team.
	So let's sit here and talk about how the team is going to be successful.
	And anybody that's played sports knows it's about chemistry, it's about roles, and not every team is gonna have the same chemistry or roles, and so it's gonna differentiate depending on the team.
	Absolutely, absolutely.
	And and the most important thing is is that there is compromise.
	That the husband and wife, boyfriend or girlfriend, whatever you are to each other, or if you choose not to get married and you're just partners for the rest of your lives, there needs to be compromise and there needs to be teamwork, and that's really what it comes down to.
	And I think that's how you make it work, and that's how you're successful, and that's how you have respect for each other.
	So how long have you been married?
	Um, I've actually been married for 13 years, but I've been with my husband for 23.
	Okay.
	And um I if you I mean because we're teenagers.
	If you don't mind uh, you know, I'll pry for a little personals here.
	Um only marriage for you two.
	Uh only marriage for both of us.
	Yep.
	We we started dating when we were teenagers.
	Um, you know, we we we've gone through our tough times, you know.
	We you grow and you change, you know, we're in our forties now.
	But um ultimately it's always just been about teamwork, you know, and if and if one of us feels that the other one is kind of, you know, not playing on the team at that point in time, we make adjustments, and you know, you have your highs and you have your lows, but you have to have respect for each other.
	And, you know, I guess that's it.
	You know, we haven't had a perfect marriage, but it's worked, and we love each other, and we love our children.
	Um my husband's here with me saying it.
	Hey, hey, he's allowed to talk too now.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I just want to thank you for the 1776 testosterone boost, buddy.
	It's worked, baby.
	It's worked.
	Oh my goodness.
	The key to a happy marriage.
	So, all right, I'm sure you have more callers coming in, Owen.
	We just wanted to say we're great fans, big fans, and uh have a great night.
	And and but and you guys enjoyed the you guys enjoyed the conversation enough though?
	Oh, yes, definitely, definitely.
	Okay, good.
	Okay, good.
	Because hey, look, I know, because here here's the thing too, guys.
	Thank you guys for the call.
	Here's the thing too.
	Um for somebody like me that has a see it it it I have to I have to go through this all in my head.
	And really the only reason why I can understand this is because I've been in media for like half of my life, but I have to go through this understanding in my head of my my view of who I am is different than than you.
	You guys, most of us we have never met, and you see me as a political figure, talk show host, whatever.
	Well, well, to me and my friends and my and my family, my mom that's tuned in, I'm still just Owen Schreuer.
	I'm I'm still just the guy that grew up liking sports and ended up doing a talk show in media.
	So I forget that, you know, the people tune into me, they like me because of my politics.
	They like me because of the political things I say.
	And so for me to venture into cultural takes and debates, it's quite frankly risking some of my audience.
	But I think it's more important for us to start having these conversations.
	Again, because I I was given this advice once as a young man, and it never left me.
	Still impacts me to this day.
	And I don't remember how I asked this guy the question.
	It's one of my inspirations.
	He's been on the show with me before Kevin Slayton.
	But uh, you know, something along the lines of, you know, Kevin, how can I be successful in media?
	It it's such a watered-down medium now, and there's so much competition, you know.
	I I know I can, I know I'm capable, but but how can I be successful?
	He said, you know, you find the void and you fill it.
	Find the void and you fill it.
	And so that's what I did politically, and it ended up me up here.
	Well, I'm starting to see this void culturally now, too.
	And I I think the debates that we're having culturally are just all in the fringe, and I'm scared that the conservative movement that's gained so much ground because the left has just gone insane, folks.
	Again, I mean, this is how it goes.
	You might not like Joe Rogan, you might not like Elon Musk.
	These are individuals with huge platforms that aren't dyed in the wool, liberal progressives promoting that bull crap to their massive audiences.
	And if and if the conservative culture movement starts going into the fringe, people like that are going to go back to the left.
	And I just don't want to see that happen because I want to see political victories to save this country.
	It's our best hope.
	Everything else will fall in line.
	All right, I'm ranting.
	Let's go to the next caller.
	What's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Hello?
	Yes, hi.
	Hi, can you hear me all right there, Owen?
	Yes, I can.
	Where are you at?
	Uh I'm in Wisconsin.
	This is uh wild in Wisconsin.
	Oh, wild.
	Wow.
	Haven't heard from you.
	Yeah, uh, I was uh listening, and why I like uh when you get into like different topics, I like variety of topics, you know, wild card calls and we're gonna be getting into a lot more topics.
	We're gonna be focusing more on different topics on this channel than what I normally do on the war room, which is obviously politically news driven.
	Yeah, you know, what and also what's also other a lot of other people talking about.
	But you were talking about the importance of uh marriage and stuff, and about how like in modern days it's kind of going away.
	And I think like after coronavirus, I think uh what we're gonna learn is you know uh there's a reason for marriage, you know, and like gender-specific bathrooms when you, you know, not to be graphic, talk about like fluid transfer, and like you can see how like you know, bacteria and flus and everything kind of changes people's anatomy, and it's kind of a complicated system going on between male and female.
	Um, I think as like science develop and scanning and you see, like with MRIs and um 3D ultrasounds and AI and everything, the more we learn, I think we're gonna discover the kind of importance of having um a marriage, you know.
	What do you think about that?
	Well, it sounds like you're getting into more like uh biochemistry, microbiome stuff.
	Is that what you're talking about now?
	Yeah, you know, and like that's like, you know, if you look at like, you know, go deeper in that rabbit hole.
	Well, and I don't want to, I don't want to go, I don't want to go too deep into this from my perspective right now.
	But you know, I think I think one of the aspects here too is well, whether it's marriage or anything, marriage might just enhance this more so than anything else, uh for whatever reason.
	Maybe it maybe it's a God thing, maybe it's just something else, maybe it's having kids, but there's definitely something in your biochemistry that changes when you go through that process.
	And I do think energy too.
	Call it, yeah, call it energy.
	And I do think most of the time it is probably for the good.
	It's probably for the positive.
	Yeah, and it can it can be like the negative too, you know.
	Like that's why I'm worried about no offense to like homosexual people, but like the poop bacteria are getting everywhere, you know, and then cross-contaminating to the populace through public bathrooms, and then obviously people who are uh young and having sex, you know, which is normal, you know.
	Well, yeah, I mean, look, I I natural urge.
	This is uh this is such a weird thing.
	It's disgusting because they're teaching this to children.
	Um exactly.
	You know, I'm not if we could ignore it.
	I'm not here to judge anybody or what any adult puts their you know, little friend into, but it's the fact that they're teaching this to kids like it's normal and not even really telling them uh the negatives and the health repercussions.
	Well, there's so much bacteria, you know, it's the waste hole, you know.
	It's like I don't know.
	Oh, I know.
	Believe me, I'm telling don't put it in the exit hole.
	Like there's a reason why it's the exit hole, all right, people.
	Thank you for the call.
	I'm about out of time here, so I want to squeeze in as many as possible.
	Let's take our next caller.
	Uh what's your name?
	Where you're from.
	Uh, my name's Kevin, and I'm from Ohio.
	Hello, Kevin.
	How are you doing?
	Hey, good.
	I think it's the first time I've ever talked to you.
	Am I right?
	It really is.
	And I've I've watched um the Alex Jones show, American Journal, and your show, and thank you guys for covering it.
	Um I I guess I can have some questions why questions aren't being asked.
	Like, we have seen so much money being spent into Ukraine, and you have to ask people asking why.
	And I don't understand whether not, because really the Ukraine was the motherland of Russia.
	Am I not correct?
	Well, you know your history.
	Uh Kiev was the capital of Russia, and I guess I I don't know the exact date or whatever, but it it wasn't even too long ago that that the Ukraine was Russia.
	Um, I mean, classically speaking, Ukraine was Russia dating back centuries.
	Uh, but you know your history.
	Most Americans they couldn't even locate Ukraine on a map, let alone tell you about the history of Ukraine.
	And I'm not going to sit here and act like some history buff either.
	I just know this stuff because I want to be informed because I cover the topics.
	But generally speaking, your question, why don't more people ask about Ukraine?
	I don't know if you saw the latest news, but the Pentagon is claiming they just got three billion more dollars for Ukraine.
	Oh, magically.
	I mean, you could apply that to almost anything.
	Uh, and and this is actually the good news, because even though you're right, not enough people are asking, more people are asking now than they were 10 years ago.
	And I think that's a trend that is going to keep going.
	So, yes, there's still too many uninformed, disinterested, disenfranchised Americans that aren't paying attention to anything, but I think more people are starting to pay attention.
	And I don't know if you've noticed, but I mean people from the left and the right are protesting against this war.
	Uh, as usual, the politicians just don't listen.
	And absolutely sh should, because we're not um we're not spending money to come to a peace deal.
	We are actually spending money to go to a war deal.
	And anybody that says they're pro-Ukraine that supports this war is an asshole.
	Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have died because of the support for this war.
	It's disgusting.
	In my in my opinion, this administration will grind every Ukrainian life into the ground in the name of their corruption in Ukraine.
	Truly.
	Well said.
	We like the F-16 that needs to stop.
	Oh my gosh.
	And it's just it's so disgusting.
	The war hawks are just they're just saber-rattling to Putin.
	They just cannot help themselves.
	It's like, how many times are they gonna poke the bear?
	I mean, does nobody watch Russia speeches from Putin?
	No, they don't.
	I'm not watching I've watched them, and I and I kind of get it a little bit.
	No, no, I'm not a Russian sympathizer, no, no means.
	But I also understand that the Nazis, you know, invaded Russia twice without declaring war.
	Most people, most Americans don't realize that it was really the Russians that defeated the Nazis.
	Uh, you know, I'm not discounting the American soldiers, but it was the Nazis that took Stalingrad, the Nazis that took Berlin, the Nazis, a million uh the a million Russians died defeating the Nazis.
	Yes, because they got stuck in the tundra.
	The German tanks did.
	And the Russians were equipped for the tundra.
	And that's exactly what happened.
	Yeah.
	We shouldn't be feeding this.
	Because every, I mean, I have talked to people from Ukraine that are over here.
	And it is a totally corrupt country.
	And what about the 11 biolabs that we are feeding over there?
	Yeah, even uh Earl Musk, Elon Musk's dad is doing TV interviews talking about the biolabs in Ukraine and what a problem they are.
	And he put it rightly.
	He's like, why are all these people in government a bunch of misfits?
	They're a bunch of misfits.
	It really is.
	It's sad.
	And the thing is, is the Nazis over in Ukraine has been killing Russians for since 2014.
	I mean, yeah, the Azov battalion.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	I mean, why are we funding a Nazi battalion?
	Well, this is why I do what I do.
	I try to inform the American people.
	And uh, you know, it is working.
	People are waking up, people are getting the information.
	Um, curious minds are starting to prevail.
	So it's just a matter of time.
	My question is to you.
	Do you think a bioweapon is coming?
	Well, that's a little bit of a uh complex.
	I mean, I yes, yeah.
	There's no doubt they'll release another virus or pandemic or whatever, if you want to call it a bioweapon.
	Um, would anybody use like a bioweapon that'll just you know, like blow up and people will start dying?
	No, I don't think I think that would be too obvious.
	No, I I think it'll be subdal.
	Um have you ever heard of AP or IPL?
	Is that the Bill Gates thing that they're putting on the fruits?
	Yes.
	Yes, it's disgusting, you can't rub it off.
	So, what happens when um people cannot get citrus fruits?
	I mean, on their own.
	Well, obviously, controlling the food supply is a pipe dream of the globalists, just like controlling the money supply.
	Hey, thanks for the call.
	I want to jump to as many callers, so I'm gonna jump now.
	Let's take the next call.
	What's your name?
	Where you're from.
	Dennis from Chicago.
	Hey Dennis, what's up?
	So I I have to go ahead and say, hey, Owen, as always, man.
	You you you you you're you you're a beacon of standard, okay.
	Uh I love you, man.
	I love your coverage.
	I always follow you, and and I I feel everything that you're saying.
	You I'm sorry that we always have have to have these these these problems, you know, as far as Democratic Party using black folks as tokens and showing the American people how stupid black folks are.
	I'm sorry about that, okay.
	Well, you know, it it really is the true racism, though, isn't it?
	They don't they don't they don't give you they don't give you Dr. Ben Carson, they give you Jordan Neely.
	Oh no, they give you one better.
	It's called George Floyd.
	Well, yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, I guess what you know what's what's so shocking to me that no one has ever said about George Floyd.
	Do you know who George Floyd's brother is, stepbrother is I don't recall.
	Stephen Jackson.
	The NBA player.
	Yes, sir.
	No.
	Are you serious?
	Okay.
	Go go look it up.
	I'm gonna I'm gonna look it up right now.
	Please.
	Hold on a second.
	I'm serious.
	Stephen Jackson.
	It's his brother.
	So what you saw?
	I'm trying to tell you, this is in the black community, bro.
	We see this all the time.
	So it says here, Steven Jackson has a personal connection to George Floyd.
	Here, let me get my uh let me get my screen share up.
	Yeah, Steven Jackson, prominent figure, George Floyd's murder.
	Said Danny.
	Says he's his twin.
	I don't think they're actually it doesn't say that they're actually biological twins.
	I mean, they do look alike.
	You can't deny that.
	I'm trying to tell you something that no one does understand.
	So what's your story?
	So, what's the story?
	You know what you saw.
	You know what you saw.
	Stephen Jackson was a failed NBA player, man.
	He was out on his ass.
	His brother was selling his heat.
	He was getting money to funnel his brother, dude.
	I'm trying to get you to understand what you're seeing.
	I don't understand how no one is saying this.
	is the biggest story of history I'm a scoop you on something.
	That's Stephen Jackson's stepbrother, dog.
	That's his brother.
	Same mother.
	That boy was more dead than a lie.
	You've heard that statement before.
	How did he get a gold casket?
	How did he get Revan Al Sharp?
	How do you get all of that?
	Yeah.
	Okay, I see what you're saying now.
	I see what you're saying now.
	Think about it.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	I get what you're saying.
	That was a failed NBA player.
	Now he's back in the limelight.
	How is that?
	Not to mention not to mention all the Black Lives Matter founders and everything that now have million dollar properties.
	Exactly.
	George Floyd's family.
	Listen to me, man.
	This is a all pay for.
	All pay for.
	What the American people got to watch was a family hit put on someone to get the money from that person.
	You've seen this throughout history.
	Somebody's got to die.
	I'm serious.
	It sounds crazy, but why is it no one saying that Stephen Jackson is George Floyd's brother?
	Why is that not being said?
	Boy, I that's that's interesting.
	Because all the articles I just read, they don't claim their biological brothers.
	He just says he was friends with him, and they met in Texas.
	So it doesn't get into the step parent situation or anything.
	Different father.
	I don't know how no one how did everyone miss that.
	How did everyone miss that?
	Oh, you might as well say the Vegas shooter was acting alone, too, right?
	I get it.
	I understand.
	Oh, it's just it's cut, it's far for the course.
	I'm sorry to waste your time on really.
	I truly am.
	It's just far for the course.
	Never let a good crisis go to waste.
	Well, there's no denying that uh after George Floyd's death, millions of dollars were exchanged.
	Millions of dollars started flowing in one direction.
	And go look at any superstar that donated.
	Go look at anyone who donated to the call.
	That will let you know to follow the money.
	That's it.
	Follow the money.
	You know who's paying for it.
	Dennis.
	Just that simple, my man.
	Dennis coming in with the knuckleball tonight.
	That was a crazy knuckleball.
	Appreciate you, Dennis.
	Good to hear from you.
	All right.
	I think we got time for one more caller, so let's close out the night.
	Last caller, what's your name?
	Where are you from?
	Uh six.
	Hold on a second, my man.
	We're having a little connection problem.
	Let's try that again.
	Uh TP.
	FEMA region six.
	TP.
	All right, let's go.
	All right.
	So what I just want to say, what a great show tonight.
	You're running an absolutely tight tight ship.
	And you're doing a great job, Owen.
	And I just want to say keep on keeping on.
	Like I had nothing else to talk about.
	Just keep on keeping on, brother.
	I love you.
	God bless you and your family.
	God bless and for us.
	God bless Alex Jones.
	And I'll talk to you soon.
	All right.
	Appreciate those kind words.
	Thank you very much.
	I do run this whole thing myself.
	All right.
	That means we got time for one more.
	Last caller.
	What's your name?
	Where you're from.
	Rick FEMA Region 4.
	What's up, man?
	All right, Rick.
	All right.
	I'll make it.
	I'll make this one quick.
	Close it out, Rick.
	We need trans people.
	We love trans people, trans people world, yeah.
	We need trans people.
	We love trans people, trans people world, yeah.
	What is that?
	What is that Nebraska State Senator's name?
	What a loon.
	Michaela something, and how is she possibly a Senator?
	Michaela, Michaela McLoon.
	This is ridiculous.
	I I'm I'm speechless by that.
	And like you said, I'll I'll make it uh damn quick.
	So uh Sebastian Gorka, you think the war loon you're going to address the asymmetry of Florida's joy and peace with towards the clock of TV.
	The premises with sat rooms for secured.
	You're on another level now.
	I think I think Nebraska State Senator Michaela Kavanaugh is starting to rub off on you.
	Uh I I think uh I think you're probably uh probably right.
	Need to get some brain force ultra.
	You gotta be careful around uh Michaela Kavanaugh, Nebraska State Senator.
	She could go, she's a shapeshifter.
	Nah, definitely, definitely.
	Uh hope everything's going well.
	Uh the the cultural aspect, yeah, it's it's good to have that.
	Uh obviously risks some of the fans, but uh nothing wrong with moving into some of those aspects and uh, you know.
	Just gotta find the right guests.
	There was uh some folks in the folks in the chat earlier asking for the honk, so there it is.
	Closing us out in style.
	Rick, thank you very much.
	All right, ladies and gentlemen.
	There it is.
	Owen Schreuer live.
	Episode 26 is in the books.
	Great audience tonight.
	A little bit of a change up with the conversation.
	We got a little more cultural.
	I think I'm gonna delve into more of these issues as time wanes on.
	Because the conversation is just going the wrong direction.
	And uh, it's not even to necessarily inject my cultural opinions or or my cultural views, it's more to say, hey, this populist movement that is gaining so much ground culturally, so much ground politically, we're risking all of it by turning into infighting purists.
	So let's just not do that.
	I don't know.
	Just how I feel about it.
	I think most people would agree.
	Oh, and Shroyer live in the books, brought to you as always, through the Wolfpack.gold microphone.
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