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OSL 26 - Who's Winning The Culture Wars? Are Conservatives Eating Themselves?

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unidentified		Who is winning the culture war and are conservatives beginning to eat themselves?
unidentified		All right, ladies and gentlemen, the question is, who is winning the culture wars?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And are conservatives eating themselves in the current culture wars?
		And I'm about to be joined.
		This is the first ever video guest that we've had.
		Usually, I just do the cell phone because I like this to be audio only, but she insisted on being over the video.
		So, I think we're going to be testing this in live time, but I think it's going to work out just fine.
		Thank God for Bill Gates' wonderful Zoom technology so we can zoom right in on your life through the windows he put into your home.
		So, before I bring her in quickly, Owen Schroeder Live, episode number 26, coming to you as always through the Wolfpack.gold microphone.
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owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Kalina, let me, I got to switch up my system a little bit here so I can get you on the screen.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So, just give me one second.
unidentified		Bear with me here, y'all.
unidentified		Oh, nope, that's not going to work.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's try this then.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
unidentified		That's why I'm in a, I'm in a separate Zoom window.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's an entire thing.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's not even an internet browser window.
unidentified		That's why I'm all confused here.
unidentified		All right, so then we're just going to do this.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, there we go.
		Now you guys can see her.
		I just caught her in the act of drinking some herbal tea.
		I think.
		Is that what you have there?
		You got some herbal tea?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's peppermint and green tea all in one.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Is that your own?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Is that your own recipe there?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		No, it's just two tea bags that I put in the same cup.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Is this part of your reset program?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Yeah.
		Green tea definitely is.
		Peppermint is also good.
		I mean, it doesn't have like as many properties.
		It's just more for the flavor.
unidentified		So.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So you're big into like health and lifestyle, and that's kind of your involvement in what I'm calling the culture wars tonight.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, definitely.
		I've been into health and fitness for basically almost 20 years.
		I also worked in the traditional healthcare field for six years.
		Well, more than six years, but I practiced medicine for six years.
		And before that, I worked, you know, just while I was going to school and everything.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So what are you considering traditional medicine?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Like you worked at a hospital, you were a nurse practitioner?
unidentified		I was a physician assistant and I worked in the ICU.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		I worked six years in the ICU.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And from what you saw in there, you thought it would be better for people if you introduced them alternative health options.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		So, I, what I saw was people come in.
		They're already, you know, they obviously have health problems.
		They're on a ton of pills, you know, lifelong and everything.
		And then you see the same people coming back and back with more and more health problems.
		Nobody's really addressing lifestyle.
		You know, you work in that field, you kind of get to know the medications and everything.
		And you start to think, you know, if you're like me, I'm like, I wouldn't, you know, want to be on any of these pills when I go home.
		And, you know, because you know all the side effects and all of that.
		And so it just become became for me like a huge disconnect from like how I take care of my body versus like how patients are, you know, taking care of their body, like from the time they're with their general practitioners and everything, you know, all the way till they, you know, are in the ICU, usually with like exacerbations of chronic disease.
		And yes, I was like, if these people or anybody could learn some of the things that I do, you know, throughout my daily life, like there would be a huge chance they would never end up in this position.
		So that was when I kind of decided like to pivot back, you know, towards the health space, like the true health space of like preventative lifestyle.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So when was the last time you were in a hospital, like that you needed care?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Never.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I've been to an ER problem.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't, I'm not, I'm not prying for personal information.
		The only reason I ask that is because the only reason I ask this is because the people I talk to that are into, you know, we'll call it lifestyle or alternative health practices, like myself, I never go to a hospital.
		I never go to a hospital.
		And what I've noticed too is it's almost freakish.
		Like some injuries linger, right?
		Like now that I'm a little, I'm getting a little older.
		I don't like to think I'm old.
		I'm not trying to age you here.
		I'm 33 and I'm getting to the point where some nagging injuries like won't go away.
		Like I jammed.
		Well, like, yeah, well, no, like, I'm all good.
		But it's like I jammed my thumb playing basketball like a month ago and it's like, it won't go away.
		It's like every time I play, I re-jam it.
		And it's just, I have to take some time off.
		But I also think because I'm so healthy, I've had other things happen where I've rolled an ankle, which even when I was younger playing sports, I probably would have been shelved for at least a week or two.
		I roll an ankle now.
		It recovers in like a night.
		It's like freaky.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, exactly.
		So other than having my son, I've never like been in the hospital.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you gave birth in a hospital.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm a little surprised by that.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, I, it wouldn't have been my choice.
		My son's father was like, we lived in a very small town and it's not like there was a birthing center.
		It's not like there was like, I wanted to have him at home, but there wasn't really like midwives that would come to your house or anything like that there that we like knew their reputation.
unidentified		So I wish I had not given birth in the hospital because they start right away with the C-section, you know, hey, the vaccines, all the other crap that they want to give you.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		And I did end up with a C-section because they kind of lie to you.
unidentified		They manipulate you.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		They scare you.
		You know, they wait till you're tired because you've been in labor for 30 hours and they tell you it's just not going fast enough and they're worried, even though there's nothing actually wrong, you know.
		And at that time, my son's five and a half.
		So I hadn't armed myself with enough information to be like, no, my water didn't break too long ago.
		I had plenty of time.
		And I didn't have anyone there to advocate for me.
		So I did end up with a C-section, which is like a huge regret to me because they kind of have you then.
		Like it's very hard to be able to.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's intimidating.
		You're in the hospital.
		You're surrounded by people that think they're authority figures.
		But you know, you just said, you just said the key word was it's all about having the information.
		And so many people don't have the information.
		I think a lot of people learned that the hard way with the vaccine rollout in 2021 and 2022.
		And they regret perhaps taking the vaccine.
		You know, one other thing, and I want to get to the comments for tonight.
		I'm just kind of introducing you to the audience.
		The one other thing that I've heard too is that you said you had a, was it 30 hours you said?
		Was it that long?
		Most people that I have heard from now, the people that I hear from that have their burrs at a hospital, they're always like 20 hours minimum.
		The people I know that have had home births, it's like a couple hours and they're done.
		How is that even there?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		It's because they kind of put you in the bed and they don't have you move around.
		They don't coach you on, you know, how you should be sitting, how you should be.
		If I could have done it over again, I would have learned a lot about, especially for women, and I didn't know this either, but a lot of people talk about like women that are very in shape that work out a lot.
		You actually need to learn pelvic floor relaxation to be able to allow the baby to descend quickly.
		And I don't know much about it, but that's just something that I've been told since then by people.
		So there's a lot more I would have done to prepare.
		But yes, like when you're just in the hospital, like laying there, like your labor is not going to be progressing.
		And they don't really encourage you to like do the things that you need to do to help it progress.
unidentified		So.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Is it true that if you drink a Bud Light while pregnant, your kid will be trans?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		I heard that that is the new data is coming out in that direction.
unidentified		That was the catch.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		You might not know this, but you can maybe tell by my voice.
		I've been sick the last week, and so I decided to come out as a double trans.
		I'm actually a woman who identifies as a man who identifies as a woman for, you know, until my voice gets better.
		So as a double trans person, I'm back in the correct body.
		I don't need any surgical reassignment or anything.
		But, you know, I just wanted to see if that annoyed anyone that I said that.
unidentified		Wow.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And if anybody questions that, of course, they are a bigot.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		So yes.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		They're not, they need to educate themselves.
		Okay.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So I got to, I got to, I got to blow you up on this because I saw it on your Twitter feed.
		You shared the, you shared the fake astronauts that are all professors at the teachers.
		They're professors at the university now.
		So I'm just curious, do because I've noticed there's a lot of, and this is actually going to lead perfectly into the conversation because the reason why all these things are intertwining right now, because it's all kind of populist stuff, right?
		Like people want to get healthy again.
		People are thirsty for information again.
		People are sick of the corrupt government.
		So it's all these kind of movements that are forming into this political populist movement that, you know, in a way, Trump was kind of like the nucleus that everything kind of started from, I think, that kind of just united everybody under this political tent in 2016.
		Not that it's even about Trump.
		It's not.
		It's beyond that, I think is what we're learning.
		But I'm just curious, do people ever like, because I know you've been into politics, I think even libertarianism some, do people, do people ever bring that up when they're getting advice from like health advice or lifestyle advice?
		Like, do they like the political stuff or do they not like the political stuff?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So some people have fun with it if they can kind of let go.
		I think it's really fun.
		When I trained in the gym, I would tell my clients about this stuff all the time and they would think it was goofy and be entertained and everything.
		But I was surprised because some of the people that I trained, you know, their lifestyle was like pretty mainstream and stuff.
		And one of them for sure was like, yeah, the moon landing is fake, you know, but other people are not.
		Yeah.
		Oh, of course the moon landing.
		We can get into that.
		I don't actually know that much about the challenger one.
		I haven't researched it.
unidentified		I just hit retweet because I thought that was a good tweet.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		But most of what I've looked into is like the moon, the moon landing.
		So yeah, I would talk to my clients about stuff like that and just entertain them.
		And some people, I think it's good because it opens your mind to like, you know, when you start to realize, you have to realize, and maybe this is what you're getting on, is that a lot of stuff that we think we believe, we don't actually know.
		And once you kind of let go of that, like there's someone who's an expert and there's facts that we know for sure.
		And you start to question things, then you become a lot more open to, you know, like, oh, do I really need to take a medicine for that?
		Do I really, you know, you start to look at your body differently and you start to look at the world differently.
unidentified		So.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I won't even ask you if you think the earth is flat.
		We'll spare you of that question for this evening, although the people in the comments may want to know.
		Here's the thing.
		I'm not really, I don't really get into space or anything like that.
		I like to joke about the flat earth thing.
		The one thing I will say though, because it all goes down to what you just said, I question everything now.
		I've been lied to so much in my life.
		I'd be naive to think I'm the only person that's been lied to his whole life.
		My guess is my father, my grandfather, my great-grandfather, my great-great-grandfather, my great-great-great-great-grandfather, my great-great-great-great-great-great great grandfather, my great great times, 100-grandfather.
		I bet they got lied to about bullcrap too.
		And then we just sit here and believe it, not even realizing it's a thousand-year-old lie.
		So I always, I always question everything.
		The one respect I have for flat earthers, no matter what, they will always debate you.
		They will always debate you.
		And I have so much respect for a person that has the convictions to stand up for their beliefs, but I don't want to get into that.
		What I want to get into is the culture wars.
		Who's winning the culture wars?
		And are conservatives eating themselves?
		Let me just ask you first.
		I think people understand generally the culture wars we're talking about.
		Health, morals, values, principles, pride, patriotism, stuff like that, all kind of converging into these big political movements that seem to be separating like landmasses.
		Who do you think is winning the culture war?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so I don't even think, I don't even think that there's really like a Republican and Democrat side when it comes to like the government and the political parties.
		I think that what happens is that, you know, obviously like, and I don't get too much into like the deep state or like, you know, as far as conspiracies about that, but it is true that, you know, they all work together and, you know, they kind of have come up with a political system that's very polarized.
		So it's like, don't like abortion, like abortion, you know, like social, you know, like welfare systems and stuff like that doesn't like social office systems.
		So all the things that are front facing are very polarized.
		But to me, what you get no matter what is the same.
		So they all go to Congress and, you know, it veers this direction a little bit because these ones are in, but under like underneath it all, the same agenda is always marching forward.
		So I don't think when it comes to the actual government and the political parties that they even have a culture war against each other.
		For the most part, I think that the government has its own agenda and everything's just kind of like, you know, it's going to go the same way.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So let me rephrase it then.
		Let me rephrase it to make it a little more real world applicable.
		And this might not actually apply to you.
		I don't know.
		Do you send your son to school?
		He might still be too young.
		Or do you are you going to homeschool?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		I was about to go to school.
		I wanted to homeschool him.
		Unfortunately, that's not, you know, like you don't.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so perfect then.
		So then here, so then here is, here's my question.
		When you send your kid to school, are you worried about the culture, what it's going to be like, what he's going to be taught?
		Are you concerned that you may have to correct some things that he might even learn at school from, say, a teacher or a textbook?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		So I'm not that concerned because there's a lot of factors for me that are going to be different than other people.
		I don't know.
		Do you know where I live or no?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So I live in Louisiana and I was living in a city that was maybe a little bit more progressive.
		But I actually moved to pick him a school out in the tiniest country, if that makes sense.
		So we have a very rural red area, you know, that he's going to be going to school.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So you're not worried about some teacher's guest called like the rainbow dildo monkey or anything like that?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not, I'm not worried about that.
		Everybody, I know some of the teachers at his school and everything, people are very conservative.
		I do wonder, you know, if that stuff makes it into like part of the curriculum, you know, I'm going to have to look into that further.
		I try to stay very like up with local politics and everything, but I don't think it's anything that his teachers or like the school would be pushing.
		Now, whether or not they tried to like, and I don't think in my state, it would pass to even make it into like part of, you know, their curriculum or anything.
		But I definitely am going to stay like on top of figuring, you know, figuring out what they decide to teach and everything.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That is a sign.
		To me, that's a sign that conservatives, I would say, are winning the culture war because people used to not even think about that.
		They used to just drop their kids off at school.
		And I'm not saying that would have been you, but just generally speaking, I think parents are paying attention more now.
		And even though I think it's whacked out, this trans stuff, this LGBTQ stuff, I think it's all whacked out.
		Even though they're bringing that into the curriculum and they're forcing that propaganda on the students, now, like you said, parents are paying more attention.
		Legislation is getting filed.
		So I feel like the momentum is starting to go the opposite direction.
		Now, I am going to take a more directional approach with you on this on some more direct things.
		I'm going to have some starters here, some tweets, getting into more of the relationship culture.
unidentified		Oh, this is fun.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and not just the relationship culture as well, but kind of the well, let me just go right into some examples of what I'm talking about.
		Let me see which one I want to start with.
		Well, let's start with this generally speaking.
		So this is, I'm just, I'm just pulling some tweets here, folks, as a starter.
		So there's this stuff that I'm witnessing.
		I'm sure you're witnessing it too.
		In this tweet, it says the manosphere slash red pill community and trad Twitter are going to bring the fifth wave of feminism.
		So basically to put to kind of get people ashamed, the manosphere is like the cultural movement of men taking back their part in the world and being alpha men again.
		And then the red pill community is like, we're the way the great awakening.
		We're informing people.
		We're showing them the secret history.
		And then the trad Twitter, I think it's mostly represented by females, but it's this idea of you want to be a homemaker.
		You want to be a wife, you want to take a more traditional approach, and so it says this is going to bring fifth wave of feminism.
		And actually, I'm not going to say I agree in entirety with that, but I do think there is something to that.
		I am starting to see this movement where conservative, I mean, generally speaking, conservative women are becoming anti-man, and then men are it's not like they're becoming anti-woman, it's not there's like this, there's like this, oh, we have to we have to go back to treating women like they're second-class citizens or something.
		I don't know, that's kind of what I'm seeing.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		So, there is something really weird happening because I actually am not a feminist woman, although I was raised to think that like I should have a career.
		I kind of realized like that was silly.
		Like, as soon as I was pregnant with my son, I was like, Why did I think this?
		It's because, again, our parents were lied to, so they lied to us.
unidentified		You know, they're like, This is what you have to do, and everything.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, I also was raised in a very expensive area compared to I live now in a very cheap area.
		So, it is different there.
		Like, here you can just like, you know, side hustle your way through life very easily.
		Um, where I grew up, you have to make about a hundred thousand dollars a year or you're gonna be starving.
		So, um, so there, there's that.
		So, I was never really like a feminist woman or anything.
		Um, but what I've realized with the manosphere stuff, so there's like you know, it's kind of like the Andrew Tate, that whatever podcast, and then this girl named Pearl.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Uh, first of all, let me just say this about the whatever podcast: I'm all for entertainment, I'm a free market.
		Do you, man?
		In fact, I'd rather have that than the reality TV garbage that older generations got.
		But anybody can find a chick on Instagram and make her look stupid on camera.
		All right, I'm just gonna leave it at that.
unidentified		I'm done, yeah.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		So, that's kind of what they do, and that's my issue: is like there's a lot of polarization between men and women, it's the exact same thing as like polarizing the right and the left.
		So, there's like a reaction from men, and this is my issue when it comes to conservative men because conservative men want to believe, you know, a lot of religious values and everything that men are the leaders of the family, and that's great.
		So, if you believe that you are the leader, then you take responsibility.
		And I say this, it goes, it's going to go in that direction, you know, the man, the woman, the children.
		I, as a woman and a mother, you know, if I say, uh, couldn't pay my bills or there was an issue with our life, I wouldn't turn around and blame my child.
		I see myself as the leader.
		So, if a man sees himself as the leader of the family, he can't say the marriage fell apart, it was all the woman's fault, you know, she's the problem, and everything.
		They also have to take some ownership.
		And I think what's happening is a lot of men are becoming very anti-woman.
		Um, that I've seen at least when it comes to like some of those Andrew Tate and the red pill, there's a ton of talk about, you know, kind of looking at women as like, you know, like women lose their value as they get older, things like that.
		And just being like very, to me, it seems very anti-woman.
		Um, and in return, I think women are getting kind of anti-man, and there is just a whole issue there.
		So, I would like to see a replacement of some of these people who really share like very divisive values.
		You know, like Pearl does this a lot, and she's a woman, but she's pandering to men.
		You know, she'll say, like, basically, men should be able to cheat on women.
		You want a high-value man, he could cheat on you, you shouldn't break up with him and stuff.
		It's like, what, you know, and that's not really a good message, and it's not actually helping men to find a quality relationship because women don't actually think this only.
		Pearl just tells them that to like get grow her audience.
		Um, there are also women who are pandering, you know, to this like manosphere, red pill men that want to kind of have, you know, I guess like the patriarchy replaced.
		And they're saying things like, Oh, yeah, we should repeal the 19th Amendment.
		Women are ruining the country and stuff.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		They're just for the record.
		I think you want to know this for the record.
		Uh, that was uh, that was right.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		It's a lot of people, it's not just her.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just want to know.
		I invited her.
		I invited her.
		Um, she had to get permission from her publicist and couldn't.
		So, unfortunately, I couldn't hear from her.
unidentified		He's like her, her husband.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I just tried to get her on because I wanted to talk to her about it because she falsely called me out in a tweet and I was like, Hey, let's talk about it.
		And then she's like, Oh, my publicist.
		But anyway, go ahead.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so she is one of those people and she has a largely male audience.
		So, it's very convenient for her to pander to something like that.
		Actually, somebody called her out with like a super chat on Alex Stein's show and I laughed so hard.
		They were like, if you don't think that women belong in politics, like voting and stuff, should you even be on the show talking politics without a man present?
		And it was pretty funny.
		Same, you know, she's not the only one that says that.
		Isabella Moody says that.
		Who else?
		I don't know if I see it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		I see all of it.
		I'm telling you, that's why I'm bringing up this conversation.
		And because here's my problem with it.
		Most of the cultural debate now is happening in the fringe.
		It's happening in the fringe.
		And I'd like to see it get back to the middle.
		And the problem is, and I understand this, I've accepted this.
		My approach is I'm not a purist.
		I'm not a purist.
		Anybody who wants to be a purist in this world, you're going to be let down.
		I mean, it's just, it's impossible.
		You live in an impure world.
		People are not perfect.
		So purists are always going to be upset with the world.
		And it's always just going to be that way.
		And if that's the choice, if you want to be a purist, then fine.
		That's how it's going to be.
		But if you're going to sit here and try to do commentary as a purist, then you're just going to exist in these fringes.
		So most of the conversation is happening in these fringes on the left and the right.
		It's the same thing with this trans thing.
		This is all fringe bullcrap.
		This is just all these trans thing is fringe parents, fringe leftists that are totally crazy.
		And then this new, you know, we'll call it the trad manosphere.
		It's like fringe again.
		It's like total fringe stuff.
		It's like, hey, most of the stuff is happening in the middle of this.
		Try to relate to those people.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So they don't.
		Here's the thing is that people are addicted to polarization.
		And that's why these people, you know, they grift like so hard one direction because it's just like the polarization of right and left.
		Like people want to be polarized.
		They're like, it's all this.
		It's not, it's all that.
		I say the same thing.
		And no offense if you are like a carnivore or a keto diet, but those are the same thing.
unidentified		They're like reactionary to I have a very strict diet.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I have a very strict diet.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I eat whatever I want.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But I only want to eat healthy stuff.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's good.
		But I mean, it's like they, some of these people, you know, they're, they're like, I was a vegan.
		Now I'm a carnivore.
		It's like, why did you not learn from being a vegan that polarization and, you know, cutting out half the foods was bad for you?
		Like instead, they just like, I cut out the wrong half of the foods.
		Now I have to go to the other half.
		When the truth is, like you said, somewhere in the middle is going to be the healthiest for everything, like how you live your life, how you eat.
		So I don't know why people are just addicted to polarization.
		I have to only eat carnivore.
		I have to only eat protein and fats, or I have to only eat plant-based, you know, or the same thing when it comes to like, you know, lifestyle voting and stuff like that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So, well, do you slonk raw eggs?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
		I did just post a video though.
		You probably didn't see it, but apparently some carnivore person says that you should put raw eggs and testicles in a blender.
		And I guess they, I don't know what they were going to do after that, drink them or something, but probably I'm like, do you not think this is a psyop?
		Like they have you like drinking testicles.
unidentified		Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hold on a second.
		I am a huge proponent of raw eggs.
		In fact, I think it's the greatest life hack that nobody wants to talk about.
		Now, here's the thing with the, here's the thing with the Rocky Mountain oysters.
		There are, there are actually positive health benefits of that, especially for low-T men.
		No, no, no, that's a real thing.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not saying that it's not.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Personally, I don't think I'm interested, at least right now.
		I don't know.
		If I'm 60 and I'm like losing my vitality or something, maybe I'll drink a bull testicle.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		I don't think.
		So a lot of stuff that I've seen, it's like, I don't know that the testosterone that you've taken orally is actually like doing anything.
		But also, like, if you have hormonal issues, there's a lot of other stuff you can do.
		But like having like a good high-fat diet, like that does help, like eating at least like 30% calories from fat.
		That will help with your hormone levels and everything.
		So I'm assuming, you know, that they have lots of nutrients.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I've noticed here, what I've noticed is really, there's a couple of things if you just cut out of your life, everything else will kind of follow.
unidentified		Try to avoid frozen foods.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Try to avoid fast foods, you know, anything processed.
		And then once you've kind of started that, like snacks that are unhealthy for you, like potato chips and stuff, that'll start to go away.
		Even when you eat out, you'll avoid worthless stuff like French fries.
		And so, but slowly, you'll kind of narrow your diet so that you're not thinking about it too much.
		You're not torturing yourself over what you can and can't eat.
		And I mean, I always tell people: here's the key: either you want either a caloric deficit or a protein, whatever, like a max protein.
		If you want to gain weight, if you want to lose weight, you got to have a caloric deficit.
		You know, you got to have a healthy diet.
		It all comes down to that.
		But it's, I think people try to complicate things too much, personally.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and you're absolutely right.
		And cutting out gluten is actually really good too.
		And like inflammatory seed oils, like bad fats and stuff.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like just like beer, like quit drinking beer.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's horrible for you.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And so 90% of like, or maybe even 100% of the better that people feel when they do these extreme diets is because of exactly what you said.
		You know, they cut out those processed foods that had lots of, you know, either refined sugar, inflammatory oils, gluten, chemicals, just tons of chemicals, food diets, stuff like that.
		So they cut out all that, cut out the sugar.
		Those are the things that actually make them feel better.
		But then they're like, carnivore saved my life, or keto saved my life.
		Well, you, yes, like you lost weight and you feel better, but you actually cut out more foods than you needed to.
		You cut out some healthy foods too, like fruits, vegetables, stuff like that.
		So, and yes, like a caloric deficit, or what I like to do is teach people how to, what you want to do is like create a recomp, like after you've been dieting for a long time.
		What you need to do is focus on getting on a calories that is kind of like a maintenance, but for a lot of people, they would still lose weight if they're actually sticking to it.
		So it's not like a big deficit or anything.
		And then you kind of follow that for a little while, you know, as your body kind of lose, loses weight to the point where it's like within the realm of what it should be.
		You know, like say for a woman, you get down to like the 20%.
		Men, it might be the teens or stuff.
		And then you're going to start, you know, you're lifting heavy weights and everything.
		You're going to start to add calories back to that and like maximize your metabolism.
		That's really the best way to go about it.
		And then, like you said, you can add protein and carbohydrates and stuff and fats, of course, but in order to get to the point where you're like building muscle and your metabolism is really good.
		So you're losing fat.
		And that's kind of the way that I approach it with my clients.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I'm getting a notification here because I'm a because I'm a cheapskate and I have the free Zoom that this is going to end in 10 minutes.
		I'm assuming I can just call you right back.
		I don't know.
		We'll have to find out.
		We'll have to find out.
		I don't know.
		We'll play it by ear.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		You can.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		I use it sometimes and you, it'll still let you start a second one.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Do you are most of your clients female or do you have male clients?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		I have 50-50 right now in our program.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you, get the men on raw eggs 12 a day.
		I'm telling you, slonk those raw eggs, man.
		You will not regret it.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, raw eggs.
		I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them, but I actually have been doing a lot of reading.
		So our program is so holistic.
		And one of the things that we just covered with our clients last week was hair, skin, nails, like even for men who are like losing their hair from like, you know, androgen, you know, androgen-based, you know, hair loss, like male pattern baldness, basically.
		And so actually, the biotin in eggs, which is so good for like hair, skin, nails, all of it, it is better delivered if you cook even the yolk.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Some people put the raw eggs right on their hair.
		Have you ever seen this?
		They just, they just wash their hair with the raw eggs.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can actually, there's a lot of stuff you can do topically.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		And I'm going to give you guys, I don't know, you have a pretty big male audience.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Probably, yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Most formats like this are male, male-dominated.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to give you guys a good tip right now that I actually came across.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		This is kind of like crazy, but for hair regrowth for men, you know, when it's male pattern baldness, there's actually, it's called DHT, it's like dihydro, I don't know, talk testosterone, but it's a testosterone derivative.
unidentified		I would have to remind myself that exactly.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Is it a, it's a consumable?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		No.
		So it's when your body processes, especially in a state of stress, when your body processes testosterone, it makes like derivatives of it.
		And one of those, it's called DHT.
		It actually is what kind of like attacks the hair follicles, basically, like those in your hair follicle, like they damage it to where like you get male pattern baldness.
		So DHC blockers actually help with that.
		And that's how monoxidil works.
		That's like what people use for hair loss, like male pattern baldness.
		Olive oil is actually a DHT blocker too.
		And so you can actually do olive oil to your scalp and it has like, and I don't know like how effective it is.
		I couldn't find, which makes me think that it's very effective when you can't find research articles on a natural thing.
		You're like, why are they avoiding this research?
		But anecdotally, apparently it will help to block the DHC at the hair receptors and regrow hair.
		So it's kind of the same type of thing as like that monoxidil medication, but without side effects and everything.
		So olive oil to your scalp.
		I thought it was very interesting.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And I don't know if you are on to the anti-seed oil kick like so many others are, including myself.
		I only consume extra virgin olive oil.
		So here's another one.
		Getting back to the culture war stuff.
		I'm noticing attacks like this.
		Again, this is a conservative.
		Tim Scott announces he's running for president today.
		I have the same chance of Tim Scott as winning.
		I'm not running, but we have the same chance.
		Tim Scott is 57, never married, no children.
		Not to be harsh, but that's simply disqualifying.
		What kind of, in my opinion, what kind of a horrible take is this?
		Like, why would you, why would you immediately potentially toss out a good candidate, a good person for any position simply because they're not married at 57?
		I mean, it's just like, I don't know, what kind of purist mindset?
		This is, see, and this is why conservatives lose the culture war.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And what they don't know is Grover Cleveland was actually, although he had a lot of scandals, he was not married when he took office, like his first term as president.
		And then he got married when he was in office.
		And he was, I think he was 50 in late his late 50s also.
		And so it's not like it's unheard of.
		That was actually the first and maybe only White House wedding.
		And then he skipped a term and then came back.
		But there's, it is very silly.
		And people elected him because, you know, although he had weird personal scandals and stuff, his politics were so good.
		You know, they were considered so for the people and everything at the time.
		So I don't, I think that people get very, you know, judgmental, reactionary.
		And it's just that polarization thing again.
		They're like, if you're not married at 57, you don't have any kids, you're obviously, you know, they're thinking that puts you in the left category.
		You know, you're obviously not for family.
		You're not for traditional values.
		Like there's just too much of a polarization.
		And yeah, you could miss out on somebody good because of, you know, that line of thinking for sure.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's like, if you don't like his policy, okay, fine.
		But let's just, let's just, let's be a little easier here.
		And then, um, and so I'm not going to read this whole thing because the point is a point that I'm going to be just making in general here.
		So, but this is part of the thing.
		It's this debate like, oh, should you get married in your 20s or 30s?
		If you're not married by 25, you're a failure.
		Or men who want to marry younger, you're, you know, you're weird or girls who date oil.
		It's like all this stuff.
		And, you know, I just like to take all of it and I'd like to cram it and I'd like to crush it into a simple, deliverable message, which is everybody's life is unique.
		Everybody's body chemistry is unique, meaning the way you love, the way you associate love, people's hearts have been broken.
		Some people have never been in real relationships.
		It's like this whole, like, we're going to take the same approach to everybody and every relationship is going to be the same.
		Again, it's existing in the fringe.
		Everybody's experience with love and relationships is going to be different depending on their variable circumstances.
		And to try to put everything into these concrete wall paths, I don't know.
		I just keep seeing it from the conservative side.
		I keep seeing it from the political aisle that's moving the ball politically in the right direction.
		And I just want to say, hey, guys, let's move all the balls in the right direction.
		And let's not create a culture that people feels judgmental, intolerant, and not open-minded.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And it's just funny because they parrot a lot of this stuff and it's absolutely not true.
		Like, and a lot of it is just Twitter.
		I didn't know that people even thought this stuff till I got on Twitter like in November.
		But it's pretty funny because, and I don't know how much you know about me, but I'm actually about to be 37.
		I'm divorced.
		I have one son.
		And it's so funny because people on Twitter will be like, literally just telling me, you're a husband.
		No man's going to ever want you.
		You're going to be.
		And that's like, it's so funny because that's just like Twitter, the way people talk on Twitter and the way that they think.
		And they're so polarized and they're like, women are done at 25 and all this stuff.
		And you know, that isn't true.
		Like, it's just not true at all.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's total BS.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's total BS.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		And so I like to think, I'm like, do these men, they're just trying to like cut women down so that they'll be like, oh, gosh, I have to marry one of them before, you know, before I turn 26 or whatever.
		Like, what, what is the point?
		You know, and I think it comes from that whole manosphere, you know, um, space.
		They're trying to kind of balance the, you know, men and the women or something, but it's like causing a lot of friction.
		I'm not for it, but it just is what it is.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I have, I've, I've had young people come to me for advice for a long time.
		And, you know, I used to try to give relationship advice, but the more, the more I would learn, the more it's, it's like you, you, the, the best advice you can get is no advice.
		It's like the best advice you can get is you got to follow your heart.
		You, you know, part of the part of the beauty of being alive here is you get the choice.
		You have the freedom to decide what you're going to do.
		So, so make that decision, own that decision.
		Uh, so, but, but you know, the professional, I'd rather like I'd rather give people professional advice.
		And they, and it looks like people are trying to kind of merge the two is what I'm noticing.
		Is people are trying to merge the two.
		Like, oh, the way your professional life is going to go is going to collate with your love life, your relationship life.
		Again, horrible advice, horrible advice.
		You might not have control over either of those things.
		You might have control over both.
		Good for you.
		You might not have control of either.
		So to me, it's like you have more control.
		I tell, I tell young guys this: is that yes, you should focus on yourself in your 20s.
		Absolutely.
		That doesn't mean that you can't get married or have a family.
		If that's what you want to do, then more power to you.
		You're going to focus on yourself.
		You're going to do that.
		And then by the time you're 30, you need to know.
		That's when you need to know what you're going to do with your life.
		That's when you need to know what you're going to do with your life.
		And then you focus on that for your 30s.
		And then hopefully when you're in your 40s, you've got it down.
		You've got your life down.
		You're ready to go.
		You're moving on.
		And if not, then you got to hit the reset.
		And you just got to reset basically at 40 and say, okay, you know what?
		This didn't work out for me.
		I'm going to go back.
		But you got plenty of time.
		That's kind of the approach that I take.
		I don't know if you want to respond to that before I get into our next starter here.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Oh, definitely.
unidentified		Yeah.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		If you want to just send me a link to my email, I'll open it back up as soon as it kicks us off.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, is it giving you a warning here?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		No, but I just know that it will cut off without saying anything because I've taught this before.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		These fascist Zoom.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So if you just, I'll just open my email when it does.
		So yeah, I, if I could do things over, which I'm not.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and there it is.
		She called it.
		She called it.
		That was getting juicy too.
		How are you guys enjoying this conversation?
		This is Kalina, formerly known as the Liberty Chick.
		She does a program called the Six Week Reset.
		All right.
		Now I've got to find out how to find out how to fire this thing up again.
		Let's see here.
unidentified		Okay, first do this, then do that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		We're going to be just fine here.
		Let's see here.
unidentified		Here, here, uh-oh.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
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		All right, we were, we were just interrupted right as you predicted we would be.
		And I think you were about to talk about your personal situation, actually.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Okay.
		So I think when I was younger, you know, I was like, okay, I'm going to go to school.
		Do this whole career, all this stuff.
		But it was never people in my life were like the thing that you're passionate about that you care about that you want to do.
		They're like, that's not going to work.
		You know, there was a lot of that.
		So the reason that I had to start over in my middle 30s was because I listened to all the chitter chatter.
		And so that would be my one advice to people is that if you have something that you're very passionate about, which I knew, I knew before I started PA school that the thing that I cared about all the time, which was working out, eating healthy, all that stuff, it was starting to get popular to a point where my friends were making careers and that could have been me.
		But I had listened to like the peanut gallery so long that I was like just on this other path.
		I'm not saying that's bad because I learned a ton about the human body, how it works, you know.
		And although the internet's bigger now and I probably could have learned those things from the internet, like it was good for me to learn in that way, very hands-on, all the systems, everything.
		But I definitely would encourage people, like, if there's something you're passionate about, especially if you start to see it all that you're like, oh, this is starting, other people are starting to look at this thing and realize how important it is.
		I would say like, don't listen to all the doubters and the haters because you don't really want to be missing out on 10 years.
		Like I probably missed out on 10 years of a career in fitness at least.
		Yeah, 10 or 12 years that I could have been growing my actual passion and actual business and everything.
		But it's never too late to course correct, like you said, even if you're in your 40s.
		So curious.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What about, what about, you know, I think the one thing that is a debate on the female side, what about having kids?
		How much does that really impact your career?
		Because to me, I think that, you know, obviously you're going to take time off, but I don't think it's a problem.
		I think most women can come right back to their career field if they want.
		There's a lot more acceptance and understanding of that these days.
		Maybe, maybe some women become mothers and just don't want to work again.
		What do you think about that?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		So something I didn't know about because I was raised in Washington state and there, pretty much everyone waits till after they're 30 to have children.
		All my friends, pretty much everyone I knew.
		I think I had two friends that maybe had kids in their early 20s, you know, but they weren't married.
		It was just like a thing.
		But most of the people that I knew that were like kind of family planning and stuff or planning to get married, it's like they didn't get married to their 30s, didn't have kids still in their 30s.
		Some of my friends and stuff didn't even have kids like at all in their late 30s like me.
		So that was what I thought life had to look like because that's what I was told.
		That's what I saw.
		When I went to Louisiana and I started working in the hospitals, I realized that down here, women get married at like 20, they have their babies, and then like a lot of them at least, and then they go back to school and become a nurse or get a career.
		That was at least like half the women I knew.
		The other half went to nursing school and, you know, they were still having kids by their mid to late 20s and everything.
		But to me, that would have been a better route to go, you know, having your kids early and being able to focus on them for their younger years and then thinking about a career later.
		That would have been probably a good route.
		But I didn't know that that was the thing.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So what about what about the health aspect?
		You know, women are always, women are always concerned about their bodies and what they're going to go through.
		And can they ever get back to where they want to be?
		What would you say to women about that?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you absolutely can.
		And I'm going to tell you that because, I mean, when my son was born, I was 30.
		I think he was 30.
		I was 31 when he was actually born.
		So, you know, some people are like, oh, you know, if you're older, it's going to mess you up.
		If you're younger, it's going to mess you up.
		If it's, you have too many kids, it's going to mess you up.
		No, like it's not the child because I worked with women, you know, like in the gym, other coaches.
		I think, you know, women with three kids, women with two kids, women with five kids, like, you know, all of them able to get back in shape and maintain everything.
		So it's really has nothing to do with having kids at all, you know, my metabolism and people try to say also, oh, your metabolism is just going to slow down.
		My metabolism is not slower at, you know, almost 37, even it's bitter than it was in my 20s.
		So I don't know.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I think, I think, I mean, I don't know if it's fair to say you can reverse aging, but I think you can definitely slow the process to almost a standstill with proper diet and exercise.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		For sure, you can definitely.
		Um, like, I don't think I've aged a lot for that reason.
		Actually, with women, I almost think it's kind of funny that we have this idea that you're going to gain weight with age because I've actually noticed like women who work out and stuff, they can more easily look leaner in their late 30s to 40s than they do even in their 20s.
		I think some of that is like the estrogen that your body carries, you know, when you're younger and everything.
		So, a lot of things, if you play your cards right, can actually be like beneficial as you age.
		But, but our minds are trained to think that that's not how it works.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So, I look at you know, I look at like rock stars.
		I mean, I'll use like ACDC as an example here, the Rolling Stones.
		Like, these guys, they're not even really healthy.
		They don't sleep well.
		You know, that they were partying hard for a lot of their adult years, and yet some of these guys are rocking into their 70s and 80s.
		I mean, I saw ACDC play a show, and these guys look like they came out in the in wheelchairs, and then they hopped up and started rocking rolling.
		So, I think just being active is another big thing of it, too.
		Like, just stay active, just even just little stuff, just keep make something to get you out of the chair and make you feel like you got a purpose every day.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Get active, yes, yeah, definitely.
		Um, so there's such a balance with movement, like you don't actually want to overtrain and stress your body.
		I think the reason that a lot of you know, and people can say whatever conspiracy they want about, and I won't get into that because I know what your show is like when it comes to conspiracies.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But we're wide open here, yeah.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Well, celebrities have, you know, they'll talk about like adrenaline or they do stuff like that to stay young.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they brag about the blood of the youth, they love children's blood, it's so creepy.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		But I will say that there's something else you have to think about when it comes to celebrities and aging, and it's not just surgeries and stuff like that.
		Another thing is like stress.
		A lot of them, they obviously have a lot of money, they have people to do stuff for them, and so if you can manage your stress, um, you're not going to show your age as much.
		A lot of the aging that we see comes from stress, and um, you know, so I know you said they don't sleep and stuff like that, but they probably also don't have like the kind of like everyday stress that a lot of people have.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		Yeah, that that is uh that is so key.
		And I know people they don't think they can control their stress, but you really can.
		And I'm not saying it's easy, and then look, I'm not, I'm not some big, uh, you know, like, oh, meditation hippie.
		I'm not, but no, but really, if you can, if you can, let's say, control your own mind, you could even control your own biochemistry.
		You really can.
		You can, you can limit your own stress levels when you, when you have that control over your mind.
		I mean, I don't know how else to explain it than that.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And stress has so many effects because that's the cortisol.
		So, yes, your body or your mind absolutely controls how much cortisol goes through your body and everything.
		Um, and just like I was talking about with the hair loss, if those people, you know, a lot of people that have that androgen drives like uh hair loss, they wouldn't have that conversion to the DHT from testosterone if they didn't have the cortisol and the stress.
		So, that's like an outward appearance of, um, you know, it shows some of the stress in your life.
		Same thing with like a lot of people that gain weight around the middle.
		Um, that is, you know, constant cortisol, constant stress.
		And um, same thing, even if you have like an illness, you know, even things like cancer, chronic illnesses and stuff, there's a lot of research that shows that like you actually do better, you know, maybe not 100% better, like it's like a cure end all be all, but you do better if you have an attitude that believes you're going to do uh better, get better, get healthy and stuff.
		Um, that you'll have less illness than like people who believe that it's going to go wrong or don't believe.
		So, there is like an also kind of like unseen mind-body connection too, um, that there's a lot of research about.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, let me let me uh let me get back into uh some of the content-driven stuff here.
		Yeah, here's just more the same, like, oh, you know, fall in love here, fall in love at 18, marry at 22, have children.
		25 laters, you 25 years later, you went, Hey, great for you, Kathy.
		You and your husband look wonderfully happy.
		Seriously, you look about as happy as you two can possibly be.
		But again, not everyone's going to fall in love at 18 and not everyone's going to get married at 22.
		And I would not suggest people forcing that on themselves.
		Oh, here we go.
		I love this one.
		I'm sure you feel a lot of sympathy here.
		Kim Kardashian opens up about the struggles of being a single parent.
		There are nights I cry myself to sleep.
		Now, look, I'm not trying to lessen perhaps what single parents might go through.
		However, I cannot say I ever have any sympathy for Kim Kardashian.
		I don't know that what about you, Kalina?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think what's so funny is that Kim Kardashian can say that, but it's like, obviously, we know Kanye was like trying to get back with her all the time.
		So it's like, you chose what you chose.
		Second of all, like when it comes to the stresses of being a single parent, most of them are either financial, which she doesn't have, or not having like other people around you to help you.
		You know, like you don't have like a good network and stuff.
		And she has like seven sisters or whatever.
		They all live next door.
		So I don't know.
		Like, I mean, I think at the end of the day, people always need something to like feel emotions towards.
		And so I guess that's her thing that she feels emotions about.
		But as far as like the stresses of single parenthood, I don't know.
		I don't think that's what I'm saying.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, and I mean, let me let me ask you this question too, because I've noticed this a lot.
		People will complain about, well, maybe let's say Kim Kardashian saying she's a single parent.
		Well, now, hold on.
unidentified		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How many maids do you have, Kim?
		How many cooks do you have?
		You're not a single parent.
		If you have maids and cooks, to me, I'm sorry, you're not a single parent.
		You might not be with your, you might not be with the father or the whether or child, but to me, a single parent is somebody who does it all.
		You're cleaning, you're taking care of the kid, you're driving them to school, you're cleaning the house, you're cooking, you're doing everything.
		If you have people doing all that for you, then I don't think that it's proper to be like, oh, I'm a single parent.
		No, there's actual realists out there.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		And I mean, she has like, obviously, you know, her mom, her sisters, everybody around her.
unidentified		So it's not like she's like isolated or doesn't have other people.
unidentified		Like, and I'm sure they have nannies too.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		But you know what I'm saying?
		Like, her life is so different than our lives.
		And what she sees as like a stressor or like an emotional thing would be so different, you know?
		And I try to be nice about stuff because I think people's experience in life is so different.
		And I'm not saying like to Kim Kardashian specifically, but I've just noticed this like with people that I interact with and stuff in daily life.
		Like what stresses out one person and what they think is like a big deal and the end of the world and stuff can be totally different based on their life circumstances than what somebody else thinks is like not even a big deal, you know, just something you deal with on a daily basis.
		And it just, it has to do with like adapting to your circumstances.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, apparently Kim is having a hard time adapting to her circumstances here.
		I guess maybe Kanye really misses her.
		I have to tell you, I have to tell you, when I met him, he couldn't stop talking about how much he missed her.
		So here's another one.
unidentified		We're wrapping it up with the get married to somebody else.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		I'm so confused.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Apparently, apparently, I don't know if that's real or not, though.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I can't really tell these days.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's such a goofy situation there.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, here's more of the stuff.
		And I mean, this is a little more innocent, but I do see people actually debating over this.
		Wearing pajamas to the airport should be illegal.
		I can't fathom having so little going on that I care what someone else is wearing in the area.
		So I'm seeing a lot of just menial stuff like this, but you hit on it earlier.
		So I really don't, I really don't need to rehash it too much.
		And an inspiration of mine, Rush Limbaugh, always warned about this coming up in the radio era.
		Now with the internet era, folks, everybody's got a platform now.
		Everybody's got a platform and everybody can figure out how to use it.
		And so unfortunately, a lot of opinions that probably shouldn't get a big platform are getting a big platform.
		And this is causing, again, in my opinion, this is causing us to go into the fringe.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So I actually will comment on that because it's not just this.
		And I don't remember who made the pajama tweet, but it's not just.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It was Ashley St. Clair.
		I like Ashley St. Clair.
		It's nothing against her.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And I thought it was a silly tweet too.
		But Candace Owens actually started this a few months ago.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the yoga pants thing.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		But she then talked about it even in the airport too.
		She talked about it like four or five times, you know.
		And actually, Candace even tweeted asking about the 19th Amendment thing, you know.
		So they all kind of perpetuate these extreme ideas.
		I, when it comes to Candace bringing up the yoga pants, you know, she's like, in America, like, you know, people don't have pride in themselves anymore.
		They shouldn't be, they should be dressing nice and everything.
		And then she goes on to talk about, you know, like with her kids or like different scenarios where people are thinking they have to wear yoga pants because maybe they're, and I feel like she said, like, maybe they're a nanny.
		I'm like, no, Candace, like, this is why you're not an influencer anymore.
		Like, most people don't have a nanny.
		They are the nanny.
		They're wearing the yoga pants.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what I'm talking about.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they have to take their own kids.
		They had to get those kids ready.
		Like, she's talking about going out to the diner with her husband and her well-dressed kids and stuff.
		I'm like, you know what I'm saying?
		Most of the mom had to get the kids ready, get herself ready.
		She's just trying to survive here.
		Like, there's no one to like prepare the baby bag or any of that stuff.
		And so I just thought it was pretty funny.
		And I think there's like a lot of disconnect with some of these like influencers where they get so rich and they become like another class.
		You know, all of a sudden, they're media, like real, just like the regular media where they have millions of dollars and all that stuff.
		And then they're trying to like pass on to us, like, oh, well, you guys shouldn't be living like this anymore.
		It's like, you don't even understand.
		You know, we don't live the same life.
		I'm going to wear my yoga pants.
		Like, you do, you're like Kim Kardashian right now, complaining about being a single parent.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So here's, I can wrap up this whole airport attire debate.
		In it all comes down to this.
		If the TSA would stop raping us just for walking into the airport, then people might not be so inclined to wear sweatpants.
		I'll tell you, if I'm, if I've got a wacko travel schedule or I got to be there early or something, and I don't have to be somewhere directly when I land, I'm wearing sweats.
		I'm not putting on a belt.
		I'm not putting on shoes I got to take off and retie and put on.
		I'm not putting on a watch that I got to put on and take off.
		It's obnoxious.
		So if people want to, the reason why people used to dress nice at the airport is because you could dress nice at the airport and you weren't going to get groped by some TSA agent.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
		I forgot about the taking everything off because personally, I wear yoga pants all the time without shame.
		I don't care, but that is true.
		Like if you do have regular clothes, they are going to be beeping you and feeling, feeling for you know, metal and stuff like that.
		So yeah, that's funny.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see if there's anything else here.
		All right, innocent enough, yada yada.
		Let's see here.
		Oh, okay.
		You know, this is another one.
		I think this is a good one here.
		Final, final, final content here.
		So my baby mama is lucky to have a dad like me.
		I'm like the mama because I take him to all his dentists and doctor's appointments, basketball practice and games, back to school nights and assemblies, help with all this homework, yada, yada, yada.
		This is a father saying how good of a father he is.
		And this guy responds: he says, What's funny is when someone's an active father, it's always dismissed as the bare minimum.
		However, women will list all them things he did and call it tasking/slash exhausting.
		So, which one is it?
		Now, again, this is a conversation going into the fringe because I think for most people, look, you find a way to amicably split the duties.
		Maybe one spouse or parent is better at one thing than the other.
		Maybe it depends on schedules.
		So, again, this is going into the fringe.
		However, I do think this ties into what we were talking about earlier when it comes to now.
		And again, this is all happening inside the conservative movement.
		The left wing is chopping off kids' private parts and stuff.
		So, they're not even really having this.
		And that's why I'm trying to corral this conversation to get it a little more centered so we don't end up having these debates in the fringe and lose the middle.
		And it seems like it's again, it's this anti-man, anti-woman stuff.
		It's like, it's like the man should have all these expectations for the woman, and damn it, that's how it's going to be.
		But the woman should sit over here and resent the man if he's not doing everything.
		And you should, and it's like, Why are we doing this to each other?
		We're supposed to be the same side here.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and I absolutely agree with you.
		So, yes, there's here's the thing that I'm like, the it's like the men are so angry at the women, and I have to say, like, I think that the men need to chill out.
		That's my point.
		I actually don't see, and I could be wrong.
		You're a man, maybe you can tell me that you see women, you know, on the right saying, like men don't earn enough, they're not tall enough, they're not good.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Like, do you see women no, I do see that I see that again, that's fringe.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		I think more left-wing.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I again, I kind of see that more on the right wing, and I consider it fringe.
		Like I said, the left wing, I don't really, I don't really see any sanity coming from it, but but that's not even my point.
		I think it gets back down to expectations, right?
		I think it gets back down to expectations, and and really, this all kind of stems from this whole Disney princess phenomenon that I think is like targeted at women that think, Hey, you're going to marry a prince and everything's going to be happy ever.
		And so, so, really, what I think this comes down to is this expectation from both sides.
		And again, it's a purest mentality, it's a purest mentality.
		Like, you think you're going to be an alpha male and you think you're going to be able to do whatever you want with women, and they're just going to have to placate to your desires.
		And I guess this is where you know the pearl thing comes in.
		I guess she supports this idea.
		And then I see the same purity on conservative women.
		It's like, if men don't basically, if men don't do exactly what they do to step in line and do all this stuff, then they're not a high value man and you shouldn't waste their time.
		So what ends up happening is I notice that most, that most of these women that have these takes are all single.
		It's like, hey, I'm not trying to be rude here, but you know, maybe you're single because your ideal man isn't out there.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And same thing with the men.
		I've never really seen, and you have to send me or something like so I can see some of these right-wing women that say stuff like that.
		Cause I never really seen it.
		I only really see the paroles and the main issue stuff, but you never know with social media.
		It's like the algorithm gives you the thing that's going to make you mad.
unidentified		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing how it does that, isn't it?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		The damn thing.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It does it on purpose.
		But so here's my thing with men and women that I think that people are missing because there's like a huge reactionary issue, you know, where men are like, you know, basically we make better single parents than women.
		And women, you know, are like, men are just steppies and all this stuff.
		So I think men and women are different.
		Men, in my opinion, actually, like when it comes to children, they're going to be like a better disciplinarian.
		And this might not be the same for every couple, but better disciplinarian, usually like a good role model.
		But truthfully, you know, men typically are going to be more focused on the career and bringing in money to the household and then like setting a structure.
		Women usually do more of the healing type stuff.
		And I think that that's actually really good.
		And like the maintenance for children.
		So most of the time, women are the ones doing the doctor's appointments, doing the dental appointments, but that's not bad.
		And of course, every family is not going to really work like that.
		But I think if men and women can kind of see each other in like, not like, this is all the man's role and this is all the women's role, because it's just too late for that.
		Like our society, same thing with like women not voting.
		Like that's not just not going to happen.
		So it becomes, like you said, fringe to even just go around and suggest and it just alienates people.
		But I do think what I'm seeing is that men don't want to be seen as like a paycheck anymore.
		And women don't want to be seen as like, I only bring something to the table for my looks or my youth or, you know, chat, like, I guess, I don't know about child raiding, but like they want, everybody wants to be seen a little bit differently.
		And so I think if men and women can try to understand each other as like, when I look at men, I'm thinking, you know, men bring a lot to the table beside from just, it's not all money.
		Like sometimes men are just very good at, you know, fixing things, doing things hands-on, dealing with problems, and, you know, sharing more of like, as a woman, like what I see valuable about men.
		I try to ask a lot on my Twitter of just men's advice and I get so much good advice that I would never get from women.
		You know, what blonde mower should I buy?
		What do you guys think about this?
		What do you think about this car thing?
		You know, and it's so amazing how much men have to offer.
		I think that if with men see women in the same sense of like, oh, it's not just about like, you know, what woman you date or marry or whatever, like women in general have so much knowledge about like healing and, you know, like that's like health, nutrition, anything like that.
		A lot of women, you know, not every woman, but I think we're naturally like when we're in tune with ourselves, like in our intuition, women are natural healers.
		We have a lot of good advice about that, children, things like that.
		You know, just like self-care and everything.
		So I think there's a lot to be said for like seeing each other as like the values instead of like the negatives, you know, if that makes sense.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I think it's all about chemistry.
		And I might have a little cold take on this.
		But when I think about marriage, I mean, yeah, I'm thinking about where, you know, you are entering a contract.
		And so I'm not saying to approach it like a professional business or the corporate world, but no, I mean, you're entering a contract.
		There needs to be, you know, some negotiations about what this is going to be like.
		Because I guess I put it like this.
		And I'd like to know what it's like on the female side of this.
		Because on the men's side, here's what I hear, because I'm of the age now where like guys are deciding, am I going to get married or not, you know?
		And what the big complaint on the men's side, and I hear it every time when I talk about this, and men say, well, why would I get married?
		The whole system is rigged against me.
		And so what's the point of entering marriage?
		And so we can debate whether that's a legitimate claim or not, but that's how men are feeling right now.
		And I do think you can't deny that the current marriage system is broken.
		More than half of marriages in the United States end in divorce.
		My parents are divorced.
		And so something is obviously not right there.
		Is it our approach?
		Is it our civilization and the values and the principles?
		Is it the damn feminist?
		Obviously, something's not working.
		So, yeah, I mean, I would definitely, I would not advise a man to just blindly enter a marriage, even if you are head over heels in love.
		And, you know, maybe that's the other problem too, is we don't properly address love.
		We don't talk about love.
		We don't teach love.
		We don't, we don't explain what it does with age, but I'm not having that debate.
		What is the, what is the complaint you hear on the female side of the aisle?
		What do females say when they're like talking about marriage?
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		So I think that it's actually kind of funny that men even say that.
		Like, why would it?
		Okay, you don't have to get married.
		But here's the thing.
		Like, I guess if you are a traditional man who wants a wife and you think she's going to stay at home and you're building everything together, it doesn't make sense as the man to be like, all of this is mine, you know, and if we, if we get divorced, we're not splitting everything.
		Like, why would the woman marry you and know that if you leave her or things don't work out because maybe you become very difficult or something like that?
		Why would she want to be in that situation knowing she never worked and has nothing for herself and she's going to be like thrown aside, you know?
		So I think that looking at like that is kind of very self-protective.
		And it's fine if you want to marry a woman who has, you know, if you're thinking that and she works and you work and it's like you want to just split and everyone keeps their own stuff.
		I also think that people think of marriage very cynically because it's not a fact to think like one person accumulate everything.
		Now, I guess if you just go to work and you, you know, say you're the man, you're the only one that works and you put all the money in the savings account and everything, meanwhile, your wife is taking care of the kids, saving you money on child care, all those things.
		I guess maybe you could say like, this is my money and not her money or something.
		But when you start to accumulate assets in a marriage, both people actually, you know, in a good marriage where both people are driven and stuff, a lot of times, which is this was our case when I was married, I still worked.
		I didn't work as much, but all the things we accumulated, it's not like those were my husband's property.
		We did that together.
		You know, he makes some money.
		I use my credit.
		We go buy something.
		I maintain it.
		Then I do this work.
		He does this work to it.
		It's not like, why would he think he didn't have any of that stuff when we met?
		So for unless you're a man who's already built a lot of assets and stuff for yourself, like it's silly to be like, why would I get married?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And none of that belongs to, you know, so do you think, do you think that's, do you think that's a cold place then for men to approach from a marriage?
		To think, because it sounds like we actually kind of agree.
		We just maybe have a different approach.
		It's like, hey, no, let's have an agreement here about what we're entering into under this contract and let's let's make sure that moving forward, we're both okay with it.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So it's a recipe for unhappiness to see the other person as something that's like, you know, they're just going to detract.
		If you're already, you shouldn't, if you think that you shouldn't get married, that's my opinion.
		If you're already thinking, oh, why would I get married when the woman's just going to take half my stuff?
		Well, it sounds like you probably shouldn't get married because you don't have like a mindset of like you're you want to serve your family and everything.
		You're worried about being self-protective.
		And I'm not saying that, yeah, like if you find somebody that you really believe that you should marry, that you trust them and you love them and stuff, I don't think that people should be so cynical.
		Now, granted, like I said, if you're already a person with a lot of asset, you have to also pick more carefully than if you're somebody just starting off and you build stuff together.
		You know, that's why like, I think one kind of manosphere type thing that people try to say is like, every man just wants like a 20-year-old or something.
		Well, I use like Jeff Bezos and his girlfriend, you know, as an example.
		She's 53.
		She obviously has her, had her own career.
		She has her own money.
		She is divorced.
		She has children.
		But he didn't pick someone that he's going to have to like take care of, if that makes sense.
		And I'm not saying they're going to get married and have to split assets or anything like that.
		But I think when a man is established, he needs to pick somebody who's not just necessarily trying to like mooch off of him for sure, you know?
		But as far as like, if you're 20 and you get married and you grow your business together and, you know, you end up making a lot of money because your wife is doing all the home duties and stuff, like it's very cynical to think like none of that is shared assets.
unidentified		From a woman's standpoint, women can say the same thing.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		You know, obviously, like, why would I get married when I also have to work?
		A lot of women feel that they have to work even when they have kids.
		So yeah, you could be like, why would I, you know, get married when I'm still going to have to work?
		I'm still going to have to do, you know, a lot of the stuff with the children and everything.
		Like, how does that benefit me?
		So I think it's from both sides.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I don't really have an answer for it, you know, as somebody who hasn't even figured out, you know, I think, because I want to, I want to stop you because I think that the answers are actually all in our culture.
		They really are.
		I think, and just our society in general.
		I mean, a lot of this to me, and I'm not trying to generalize here.
		I truly believe a lot of this stems from the corruption at the top.
		You know, the corruption at the top is what's hurt the country.
		It's what made it.
		It's what makes it harder for men to make money.
		It's what makes it so.
		So like this is the word you were using, self-protection.
		I think that's accurate.
		I think so many men my age have seen guys older than them lose their stuff in divorce or just get divorced in general, whether they lose their stuff or not.
		They just talk about how miserable divorce is.
		And so it becomes a self-protection mechanism, unfortunately.
		And I don't want to go too much further down this conversation because I do want to let you go here when this next section expires in about nine minutes.
		I will say on the Second Amendment thing, I don't think women shouldn't vote, but I do actually think we should reform our voting system.
		And here's why.
		And it could be a woman or a man.
		There are people that go to the voting booth and they are idiots.
		I mean, they are just moronic.
		I really do believe there needs to be some form of an IQ test or maybe like, for example, why, why should I, who pays, I don't know how much money in property tax every year, I'll vomit if I knew the number.
		Why should somebody who doesn't pay anything, nothing in property taxes have the same say as I?
		Maybe somebody can make a legitimate argument for that, but I don't know.
		Why should somebody that has a quarter of my intelligence get the same vote as I when they can vote me into slavery?
		So I don't know.
		I'm not necessarily like anti-woman voting per se, but I don't know.
		I think we could maybe change some things to fix the problems.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think the opposite would happen.
		So say, yeah, say you said none of the renters can vote.
		Only landowners can vote.
		Well, yeah, that would be very convenient for landlords.
		You know, I've been a landlord.
		Imagine if I could just vote and all the laws skew towards me.
		That's not very fair either.
		Some people don't own property because, you know, of a lot of different reasons.
		It doesn't mean they don't contribute to society.
		So I don't, I never buy the property ownership one, although I'm a property owner.
		I could say I should get to vote and no, you know, nobody, nobody else should that rent.
		And then I would, you know, not that I would personally, but what could happen is then we start to make all the laws like, you know, slant our direction.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So well, and plus, and plus, because this gets into what I was saying earlier, our, I mean, we've got a problem in our economy where it's harder to own stuff.
		It was a lot easier to own something 50 years ago or 100 years ago.
		Now it's really hard to own stuff.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And yeah, so, but I don't think that they should take away anyone's right to vote because then those people will always become oppressed by the others, if that makes sense.
		Even if you're saying like unintelligent people, you know, all only the intelligent people are going to vote.
		Well, you know, very intelligent people are in government and they're just oppressing us.
unidentified		So, and you can always, they can always.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how intelligent they really are.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Well, intelligent enough to oppress, you know, the citizens.
		So they're obviously, you know, if they're making all the money and they're, things are going their direction and they have these systems, like there's some intelligent intelligence there.
		So I think whenever you want something kind of authoritarian like that, it always ends up coming around full circle and getting used against the group that you don't want it to get used against.
		So I wouldn't really advocate for anything like that.
		I do think that our system doesn't, you know, it's obviously not great, but I think a lot of that has to do more with the uniparty and lobbyists and everything like that.
		Take away their right to have so much say before anything else.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, absolutely.
		And that's what I'm saying.
		It's the centralized power sucking the wealth, the property, the future away from the people.
		And again, that's where I really think a lot of this stuff stems from.
		I think that's where marriage problems stem from.
		I think that's where financial problems, economic problems, voting problems, it really does all stem for that.
		And that's why my main drive here, and I don't know how much of my work you've ever seen or follow, my main drive, the thing that drives me every day is to, I mean, maybe my hope is dwindling.
		Not really, though.
		I actually see, I actually see impact is we've got, there's no way we're destined.
		There's no way we're doomed to be conquered and ruled by this demonic government.
		I just do not believe that.
		Believe in informed people peacefully taking actions can save this planet.
		I say peacefully because that's my goal.
		But I mean, no, I don't think we're doomed to be conquered by some centralized bankers, some centralized world government.
		I don't think we're doomed to be slaves to this forever.
		We're deeper into this than we even realize.
		But, you know, that's my driving force.
		I think that a lot, we'll never solve all the world's problems, but I think a lot of the stuff we deal with society-wise would be solved if we could actually root out the government corruption or the unit party, the deep state, whatever people want to call it.
		I think a lot of this stuff like dominoes would start to fall into place.
		Kalina, I thank you for your time tonight.
		If there's anything else you want to let us go with, feel free here or tell people where they can follow your stuff.
		The comments are blowing up.
		I know when I open up the phone lines, they're going to go crazy.
		But just final departing words.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yeah, definitely.
		You guys find me over on Instagram, that Liberty Chick, Twitter, T-H-T-LibertyChick.
		I guess it was too long otherwise.
		If you're interested in changing your life, because I actually think that that's the true cultural revolution: taking control of yourself, your health, your body, and then your finances, of course.
		But I can help you with, you know, your health, learning about weightlifting, how much to eat, healing, nutrition, herbalism.
		Then reach out to me and join our reset for July.
		We're in the middle of our May session now, but we still have spots for July.
		It's run by me.
		I was a former physician assistant, and I've been a personal trainer and fitness coach.
		And then also my friend Samantha, who is a registered nurse and she is somewhat of an herbalist.
		So definitely, if y'all need any help in that department, men, women, we help both.
unidentified		So.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Kalina, thank you so much.
		It was a great conversation.
		People liked it.
@thatlibertychick ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Thank you so much.
		It was awesome.
		Thank you for having me.
unidentified		All right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Good night now.
		So there we go.
		There we go, ladies and gentlemen.
		I'm now going to open up the phone lines.
		I'm sure people are going to be calling in.
		But what do you think?
		I mean, look, I've been wanting to get more into the cultural debate lately.
		More so, not even that I'm into it that much.
		I got my own life.
		I got my own culture.
		I like where I'm at as far as that's concerned.
		I just don't like where the conversation is going right now.
		And specifically on the conservative side of the aisle.
		And I actually think that the conservative movement made a lot of ground up when it comes to the intolerance debate.
		And the conservative movement has finally gotten to where politically, policy-wise, we can say that we're centered.
		But if we start going down the road of political purism and cultural purism, then you're going to lose all that ground you gained.
		And whether you're intolerant or not isn't going to make a difference.
		That's going to be how the movement is labeled.
		And all they'll need is just a couple of examples.
unidentified		So, yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be talking more culture stuff, I think, around here, having more debates on this issue, but getting real with it too.
		You know, that's the other thing.
		It's just, it's so much unrealism.
		It's so much fringism that it just, it needs to get stirred back into the middle.
		Otherwise, you are, we are going to lose to the left because they are truly united.
unidentified		They are truly united.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I just feel like the conservative movement has gained so much ground towards the middle.
		Even if we don't see it represented yet, we've gained it.
		We've had it.
		It's ours now.
		Let's not let it go.
		Let's not let it go.
		And I'm starting to see it slip.
		I'm starting to see it slip.
		But it's still early.
		I got to say, it's still early, all things considered here.
		So the phone lines are open.
		747-25560.
		It's right there on the screen in front of you.
		And I have been monitoring the comments tonight.
		We're responding sometimes on the keyboard.
		But now that my guest is gone, we may even respond right here through the Wolfpack.gold microphone.
		But first caller of the night.
		Here we go.
		What's your name?
		Where are you from?
		What's up, Mike?
		How are we doing tonight?
		Thank you.
		I always forget to do that.
		You know, I always forget to do that.
		I'm such a such a bomb.
		All right, Mike.
		Mike was getting groceries tonight, y'all.
		Do you think he got some eggs to slonk, Mike?
		I hope so.
		Next caller, what's your name?
		Where are you from?
		Hey, Bart.
		How are we doing?
		Oh, you know, I'm all right.
		Now I'm thinking about slonking some raw eggs.
		That a boy.
		All right.
		Now, hold on a second.
		Apparently, we're having an audio issue here, guys.
		Let me see, guys.
unidentified		All right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Bart, give me a test here.
		Let's see if we got your audio.
		Guys, can you hear him?
bart in georgia ▲ ● ▼		Can you hear me now?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Let's see here.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We're going to pretend that they can hear you at least for now.
bart in georgia ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
bart in georgia ▲ ● ▼		So are we talking about what that young lady was talking about or is it open?
unidentified		Sure.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you can talk about whatever you want.
barton in georgia ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you, I'm like 57 and married, divorced, had one kid, and getting divorced is like going to your own funeral.
bart in georgia ▲ ● ▼		I'll never ever put myself in that position again.
bart in georgia ▲ ● ▼		I don't care how wonderful the woman is.
barton in georgia ▲ ● ▼		It's just not worth the risk.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's sad, man.
		It's sad, Bart, because I hear the same thing.
		I hear the same thing.
		And, you know, I'm not going to act like I don't make stupid decisions.
barton in georgia ▲ ● ▼		do but you know i try not to yeah well you know it's just until they change the the laws in the united states pertaining to child custody and the you know divorce and all that men men get the shaft pretty much Oh, see, this is what I was telling.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		This is what I'm talking about.
		The men I talk to of all ages.
		This is the main complaint we get about marriage.
bart in georgia ▲ ● ▼		Oh, speaking of that, I haven't had a chance to talk to you.
bart in georgia ▲ ● ▼		Undead Chronic got raided by the FBI and then Yanked his PayPal.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That name is familiar.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Can you refresh my memory?
barton in georgia ▲ ● ▼		I briefly gave him a shout out on the war room, I don't know, about a year ago.
bart in georgia ▲ ● ▼		We were trying to set up you going on his channel, but he got his door kicked in by the feds a couple days later.
barton in georgia ▲ ● ▼		And I don't know, you know, he got raided too.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Do you know why?
barton in georgia ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're MGTOW.
		Men going their own way.
		Like the Undead Chronic on his page, it says no hymen, no diamond.
		And a lot of people don't like that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I've never heard that one before.
barton in georgia ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, but the feds don't like, you know, men thinking for themselves, I guess.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, and look, I'm not fully on board the tatism stuff personally, but I get why men get into that.
		I really do.
		And again, I think this all stems because really, we've just got so much political rot that it leads to cultural rot, and then it leads to personal rot.
		And so that's why I attack the political angles.
		But again, the reason why I like having these conversations is for the same reason you called in right now, Bart.
		I don't want to hear from fringe people that have a Twitter following like they're experts on life or relationships.
unidentified		Okay.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even claiming I'm the expert.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying let's have a real conversation about this.
barton in georgia ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, all I can say is my advice to younger men is not to get married for legal reasons.
bart in georgia ▲ ● ▼		That's just my point of view.
		But anyway, thank you, Owen, for having me on your show.
		It's been wonderful.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Bart.
		Yeah, women don't like to hear that.
		Women don't like to hear that.
		And it's funny because I know about this Pearl girl.
		I don't really listen to her stuff.
		I got a little more insight from our guests tonight.
		But see, you know, here's the thing.
		Here's the thing, folks.
		This is just the way I see it.
		And quite frankly, I believe it to be true.
		You can knock Tate for what comes off as maybe arrogant or pompous or misogynistic.
		And you can knock Pearl for what comes off as anti-woman or however you want to say it.
		But folks, I'll tell you right now, I bet you that men and women that actually take dating advice from Tate or Pearl probably do better than people that take dating advice from the purists.
		But it all depends on what you want.
		It all depends on what you want.
		All right, next caller.
		What's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		Hey, Owen.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yes, hello.
unidentified		Hey, this is Laura Calling from New York.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Laura.
unidentified		How are you doing?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How did you enjoy that conversation tonight?
unidentified		It's kind of a little off-putting.
		You know, I'm sitting here with my husband.
		We're very, very big fans.
		You know.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		This is stuff.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, I know it's a little risky to have this conversation, but I mean, I think everybody else is blowing it.
unidentified		I got to be honest with you, and what I was kind of turned off about, you know, just kind of caught half of her interview.
		And, you know, in the last part, something just caught my attention where she said that, you know, she was driven.
		And that's why her and her husband both worked.
		So my husband and I both work.
		When we were dating, we both worked.
		We got married.
		We both worked.
		And I just kind of feel like a marriage is a partnership.
		And you're a team when you get married.
		And I think you got to come to an agreement together on how you want that team to work.
		Does the husband work and the wife stay home?
		Does the wife work and the husband stay home?
		Do you both work?
		Do you both care for the kids?
		You know, I just, I just think that, you know, unfortunately, it doesn't always work that way with people.
		But I feel like when you work as a team, then the marriage can work and things can be good.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So do you think I was a little cold?
		Because again, it sounded like we're kind of agreeing, but maybe with a different approach, is that, you know, you want to approach this like you use the phrase a team, and so you want to approach this like you're a team.
		So let's sit here and talk about how the team is going to be successful.
		And anybody that's played sports knows it's about chemistry, it's about roles, and not every team is going to have the same chemistry or roles.
		And so it's going to differentiate depending on the team.
unidentified		Absolutely, absolutely.
		And the most important thing is that there is compromise.
		That the husband and wife, boyfriend or girlfriend, whatever you are to each other, or if you choose not to get married and you're just partners for the rest of your lives, there needs to be compromise and there needs to be teamwork.
		And that's really what it comes down to.
		And I think that's how you make it work.
		And that's how you're successful.
		And that's how you have respect for each other.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So how long have you been married?
unidentified		I've actually been married for 13 years, but I've been with my husband for 23.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		And if you don't mind, you know, I'll pry for little personals here.
		Only marriage for you two?
unidentified		Only marriage for both of us.
		Yep.
		We started dating when we were teenagers.
		And, you know, we've gone through our tough times.
		You know, you grow and you change.
		You know, we're in our 40s now.
		But ultimately, it's always just been about teamwork, you know, and if and if one of us feels that the other one is kind of, you know, not playing on the team at that point in time, we make adjustments.
		And, you know, you have your highs and you have your lows, but you have to have respect for each other.
		And, you know, I guess that's it.
		You know, we haven't had a perfect marriage, but it's worked and we love each other and we love our children.
		And my husband's here with me saying it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hey, hey, he's allowed to talk too now.
unidentified		Oh, I just want to thank you for the 1776 testosterone boost party.
unidentified		It's worked, baby.
barton in georgia ▲ ● ▼		It's worked.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my goodness.
unidentified		The key to a happy marriage.
		So, all right, I'm sure you have more callers coming in, Owen.
		We just wanted to say we're great fans, big fans.
		And have a great night.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And you guys enjoyed it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You guys enjoyed the conversation enough, though?
unidentified		Oh, yes, definitely, definitely.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
		Okay, good.
		Because, hey, look, I know, because here's the thing, too, guys.
		Thank you guys for the call.
		Here's the thing, too.
		For somebody like me that has a see, I have to go through this all in my head.
		And really, the only reason why I can understand this is because I've been in media for like half of my life.
		But I have to go through this understanding in my head of My view of who I am is different than you.
		You guys, most of us, we have never met, and you see me as a political figure, talk show host, whatever.
		Well, to me and my friends and my and my family, my mom that's tuned in, I'm still just Owen Schroyer.
		I'm still just the guy that grew up liking sports and ended up doing a talk show in media.
		So I forget that, you know, the people tune into me, they like me because of my politics.
		They like me because of the political things I say.
		And so for me to venture into cultural takes and debates, it's quite frankly risking some of my audience.
		But I think it's more important for us to start having these conversations.
		Again, because I was given this advice once as a young man and it never left me.
		Still impacts me to this day.
		And I don't remember how I asked this guy the question.
		It's one of my inspirations.
		He's been on the show with me before, Kevin Slayton, but something along the lines of, Kevin, how can I be successful in media?
		It's such a watered-down medium now.
		And there's so much competition.
		You know, I know I can.
		I know I'm capable, but how can I be successful?
		He said, you know, you find the void and you fill it.
		Find the void and you fill it.
		And so that's what I did politically.
		And it ended up me up here.
		Well, I'm starting to see this void culturally now, too.
		And I think the debates that we're having culturally are just all in the fringe.
		And I'm scared that the conservative movement that's gained so much ground because the left has just gone insane, folks.
		Again, I mean, this is how it goes.
		You might not like Joe Rogan.
		You might not like Elon Musk.
		These are individuals with huge platforms that aren't dyed in the wool liberal progressives promoting that bullcrap to their massive audiences.
		And if and if the conservative culture movement starts going into the fringe, people like that are going to go back to the left.
		And I just don't want to see that happen because I want to see political victories to save this country.
		It's our best hope.
		Everything else will fall in line.
		All right, I'm ranting.
		Let's go to the next caller.
		What's your name?
		Where are you from?
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Hello?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Hi.
matt in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Can you hear me all right there?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I can.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Where are you at?
matt in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		I'm in Wisconsin.
matt in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		This is Wild in Wisconsin.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Wild.
unidentified		Wow.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Haven't heard from you.
matt in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was listening and I like when you get into like different topics, I like a variety of topics, you know, wild guard calls.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be getting into a lot more topics.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be focusing more on different topics on this channel than what I normally do on the war room, which is obviously politically news-driven.
matt in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, and also what's also other, a lot of other people talking about, but you were talking about the importance of marriage and stuff and about how like in modern days, it's kind of going away.
		And I think like after coronavirus, I think what we're going to learn is, you know, there's a reason for marriage, you know, and like gender-specific bathrooms when you, you know, not to be graphic, talk about like fluid transfer.
		And like you can see how like, you know, bacterias and flus and everything kind of changes people's anatomy.
icarus in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		And it's kind of a complicated system going on between male and female.
		I think as like science develop and scanning and you see like with MRIs and 3D ultrasounds and AI and everything, the more we learn, I think we're going to discover the kind of importance of having a marriage, you know.
		What do you think about that?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, it sounds like you're getting into more like biochemistry microbiome stuff.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Is that what you're talking about now?
matt in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, and like that's like, you know, if you look at like, you know, go deeper in that rabbit hole.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I don't want to, I don't want to go, I don't want to go too deep into this from my perspective right now.
		But, you know, I think, I think one of the aspects here too is, well, whether it's marriage or anything, marriage might just enhance this more so than anything else for whatever reason.
		Maybe it, maybe it's a God thing.
		Maybe it's just something else.
		Maybe it's having kids.
		But there's definitely something in your biochemistry that changes when you go through that process.
		And I do think energy too.
		Yeah, call it energy.
		And I do think most of the time it is probably for the good.
		It's probably for the positive.
unidentified		Yeah.
matt in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		And it can be like the negative too.
		You know, like that's why I'm worried about no offense to like homosexual people, but like the poop bacteria are getting everywhere, you know, everything cross-contaminating to the populace through public bathrooms.
		Than obviously people who are young and having sex, you know, which is normal.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I mean, look, I this is such a weird thing.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's disgusting because they're teaching this to children.
matt in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'm not.
matt in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		You could ignore it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I'm not here to judge anybody or what any adult puts their, you know, little friend into, but it's the fact that they're teaching this to kids like it's normal and not even really telling them the negatives and the health repercussions.
matt in wisconsin ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's so much bacteria.
		You know, it's the waste hole.
		You know, it's like, I don't.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know.
		Believe me, I'm telling.
		Don't put it in the exit hole.
		There's a reason why it's the exit hole.
		All right, people.
		Thank you for the call.
		I'm about out of time here, so I want to squeeze in as many as possible.
		Let's take our next caller.
		What's your name?
		Where are you from?
unidentified		My name is Kevin, and I'm from Ohio.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Kevin.
unidentified		How are you doing?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hey, good.
		I think it's the first time I've ever talked to you.
		Am I right?
unidentified		It really is.
		And I've watched the Alex Jones show, American Journal, and your show, and thank you guys for covering it.
		I guess I can have some questions why questions aren't being asked.
		Like, we have seen so much money being spent into Ukraine, and you have to ask, people need to start asking why.
		And I don't understand where they're not because really, the Ukraine was the motherland of Russia.
		Am I not correct?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know your history.
		Kiev was the capital of Russia.
		And I guess I don't know the exact date or whenever, but it wasn't even too long ago that Ukraine was Russia.
		I mean, classically speaking, Ukraine was Russia, dating back centuries.
		But you know your history.
		Most Americans, they couldn't even locate Ukraine on a map, let alone tell you about the history of Ukraine.
		And I'm not going to sit here and act like some history buff either.
		I just know this stuff because I want to be informed because I cover the topics.
		But generally speaking, your question, why don't more people ask about Ukraine?
		I don't know if you saw the latest news, but the Pentagon is claiming they just got $3 billion more dollars for Ukraine.
		Oh, magically.
		I mean, you could apply that to almost anything.
		And this is actually the good news because even though you're right, not enough people are asking, more people are asking now than they were 10 years ago.
		And I think that's a trend that is going to keep going.
		So yes, there's still too many uninformed, disinterested, disenfranchised Americans that aren't paying attention to anything.
		But I think more people are starting to pay attention.
		And I don't know if you've noticed, but I mean, people from their left and the right are protesting against this war.
		As usual, the politicians just don't listen.
unidentified		And absolutely should, because we're not spending money to come to a peace deal.
unidentified		We are actually spending money to go to a war deal.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And anybody that says they're pro-Ukraine that supports this war is an asshole.
		Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have died because of the support for this war.
		It's disgusting.
unidentified		In my opinion, this administration will grind every Ukrainian life into the ground in the name of their corruption in Ukraine.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Truly.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well said.
unidentified		Like the F-16s, that needs to stop.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
		And it's just, it's so disgusting.
		The Warhawks are just, they're just saber-rattling to Putin.
		They just cannot help themselves.
		It's like, how many times are they going to poke the bear?
unidentified		I mean, does nobody watch Russia speeches from Putin?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No, they don't.
unidentified		I've watched them.
		And I've kind of get a little bit.
		Now, I'm not a Russian sympathizer, no means.
		But I also understand that the Nazis, you know, invaded Russia twice without declaring war.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Most people, most Americans don't realize that it was really the Russians that defeated the Nazis.
		You know, I'm not discounting the American soldiers, but it was the Nazis that took Stalingrad, the Nazis that took Berlin.
		The Nazis, a million Russians died defeating the Nazis.
unidentified		Yes, because they got stuck in the tundra.
		The German tanks did.
		And the Russians were equipped for the tundra.
		And that's exactly what happened.
		Yeah.
		We shouldn't be feeding this because I've talked to people from Ukraine that are over here.
		And it is a totally corrupt country.
		And what about the 11 biolabs that we are feeding over there?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, even uh Earl Musk, Elon Musk's dad, is doing TV interviews talking about the biolabs in Ukraine and what a problem they are.
		And he put it rightly: he's like, why are all these people in government a bunch of misfits?
		They're a bunch of misfits.
unidentified		It really is.
		It's sad.
		And the thing is, is the Nazis over in Ukraine has been killing Russians for since 2014.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Azov battalion.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		I mean, why are we funding a Nazi battalion?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is why I do what I do.
		I try to inform the American people.
		And, you know, it is working.
		People are waking up.
		People are getting the information.
		Curious minds are starting to prevail.
		So it's just a matter of time.
unidentified		My question is to you.
unidentified		Do you think a bioweapon is coming?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a little bit of a complex.
		I mean, yes.
		Yeah.
		There's no doubt they'll release another virus or pandemic or whatever, if you want to call it a bioweapon.
		Would anybody use like a bioweapon that'll just blow up and people will start dying?
		No, I don't think that would be too obvious.
unidentified		No, I think it'll be subdued.
unidentified		Have you ever heard of AP or IPL?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Is that the Bill Gates thing that they're putting on the fruits?
unidentified		Yes.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		It's disgusting.
		You can't rub it off.
unidentified		So what happens when people cannot get Citrus fruits?
unidentified		I mean, on their own.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, obviously, controlling the food supply is a pipe dream of the globalists, just like controlling the money supply.
		Hey, thanks for the call.
		I want to jump to as many callers, so I'm going to jump now.
		Let's take the next call.
		What's your name?
unidentified		Where you're from, Dennis from Chicago.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Dennis, what's up?
unidentified		So I have to go ahead and say, hey, Owen, as always, man, you are a beacon of standard, okay?
		I love you, man.
		I love your coverage.
		I always follow you.
		And I feel everything that you're saying.
		I'm sorry that we always have to have these problems, you know, as far as the Democratic Party using black folks as tokens and showing the American people how stupid black folks are.
		I'm sorry about that, okay?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it really is the true racism, though, isn't it?
		They don't give you Dr. Ben Carson.
		They give you Jordan Neely.
unidentified		Oh, no, they give you one better.
unidentified		It's called George Floyd.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, exactly.
unidentified		Yeah, that's what.
		Hey, you know what's so shocking to me that no one has ever said about George Floyd?
		Do you know who George Floyd's brother is?
		Stepbrother is.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I don't recall.
unidentified		Stephen Jackson.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		The NBA player?
unidentified		Yes, sir.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		No.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Are you serious?
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Go look it up.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to look it up right now.
unidentified		Please.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hold on a second.
unidentified		I'm serious.
		Steven Jackson.
		It's his brother.
		So what you saw, I'm trying to tell you, this is in the black community, bro.
		We see this all the time.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So it says here Stephen Jackson has a personal connection to George Floyd.
		Here, let me get my screen share up.
		Yeah.
		Stephen Jackson, prominent figure, George Floyd's murder.
		Said Danny Jackson says he's his twin.
		I don't think they're actually.
		It doesn't say that they're actually biological twins.
		I mean, they do look alike.
		You can't deny that.
unidentified		I'm trying to tell you something that no one is understanding.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So what you saw.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So what's the story?
unidentified		You know what you saw.
		You know what you saw.
		Stephen Jackson was a failed NBA player, man.
		He was out on his ass.
		His brother was getting money to funnel his brother, dude.
		I'm trying to get you to understand what you're seeing.
		I don't understand how no one has seen this.
		is the biggest story of history.
		I'm going to scoop you on something.
		That's Stephen Jackson's stepbrother, dog.
		That's his brother.
		Same mother.
		That boy was more dead than alive.
		You've heard that statement before.
		How did he get a gold casket?
		How did he get reviving Al Sharpen?
		How did he get all of that?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Okay, I see what you're saying now.
		I see what you're saying now.
unidentified		Think about it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, no, no.
		I get what you're saying.
unidentified		That was a failed NBA player.
		Now he's back in the limelight.
		How is that?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Not to mention all the Black Lives Matter founders and everything that now have million-dollar properties.
unidentified		Exactly.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		George Floyd's family.
unidentified		Listen to me, man.
		This is all, all paid for, all paid for.
		What the American people got to watch was a family hit put on someone to get the money from that person.
		You've seen this throughout history.
		Somebody's got to die.
		I'm serious.
		It sounds crazy, but why is it no one said that Stephen Jackson is George Floyd's brother?
		Why is that not being said?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Boy, that's interesting because all the articles I just read, they don't claim they're biological brothers.
		He just says he was friends with him.
		They met in Texas.
		So it doesn't get into the step parent situation or anything.
unidentified		Same mother, different father.
		Kid you not.
		I don't know how no one, how did everyone miss that?
		How did everyone miss that?
		Oh, you might as well say the Vegas shooter was acting alone too, right?
		I get it.
		I understand.
		Oh, it's just, it's far for the course.
		I'm sorry to waste your time on.
		Really, I truly am.
		It's just far for the course.
		Never let a good crisis go to waste.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's no denying that after George Floyd's death, millions of dollars were exchanged.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Millions of dollars started flowing in one direction.
unidentified		And go look at any superstar that donated.
		Go look at anyone who donated to the cause.
		That will let you know to follow the money.
		That's it.
		Follow the money.
		You'll know who's paying for it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Dennis.
unidentified		Just that simple, my man.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Dennis coming in with the knuckleball tonight.
		That was a crazy knuckleball.
		Appreciate you, Dennis.
		Good to hear from you.
		All right.
		I think we got time for one more caller.
		So let's close out the night.
		Last caller, what's your name?
		where you're from?
		Hold on a second, my man.
		We're having a little connection problem.
		Let's try that again.
unidentified		TP FEMA Region 6.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		TP.
		All right.
		Let's go.
unidentified		All right.
		So I just want to say, what a great show tonight.
		You're running an absolutely tight, tight ship.
		And you're doing a great job, Owen.
		And I just want to say, keep on keeping on.
		Like, I had nothing else to talk about.
		Just keep on keeping on, brother.
		I love you.
		God bless you and your family.
		God bless Newfounders.
		God bless Alex Jones.
		And I'll talk to you soon.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Appreciate those kind words.
		Thank you very much.
		I do run this whole thing myself.
		All right.
		That means we got time for one more.
		Last caller.
		What's your name, where you're from?
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Rick FEMA Region 4.
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		What's up, man?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, Rick.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I'll make it.
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I'll make this one quick.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Close it out, Rick.
barton in georgia ▲ ● ▼		We need trans people.
unidentified		We love trans people.
		Trans people belong here.
		We need trans people.
barton in georgia ▲ ● ▼		We love trans people.
unidentified		What is that Nebraska state senator's name?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What a loon.
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Michaela, something, and how is she possibly a senator?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Michaela, Michaela McLoon.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		This is ridiculous.
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I'm speechless by that.
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		And like you said, I'll make it damn quick.
unidentified		So Sebastian Georgia, you need to warloon.
		Are you going to address the asymmetry of Florida's joy in peace to retort this property?
		Here's the rule.
		These senators with sacrums for security.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You're on another level now.
		I think...
		I think Nebraska State Senator Michaela Kavanaugh is starting to rub off on you.
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		I think you're probably right.
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		Need to get some brain force ultra.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You got to be careful around Michaela Kavanaugh, Nebraska State Senator.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		She could go, she's a shapeshifter.
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		No, definitely, definitely.
		Hope everything's going well.
		The cultural aspect, yeah, it's good to have that.
		Obviously, risks some of the fans, but nothing wrong with moving into some of those aspects.
unidentified		And, you know, just got to find the right guests.
bucktooth beaver in unknown ▲ ● ▼		There was some folks in the chat earlier asking for the honks.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So there it is.
		Closing us out in style.
		Rick, thank you very much.
		All right, ladies and gentlemen, there it is.
		Owen Schroyer live.
		Episode 26 is in the books.
		Great audience tonight.
		A little bit of a change up with the conversation.
		We got a little more cultural.
		I think I'm going to delve into more of these issues as time wanes on because the conversation is just going the wrong direction.
		And it's not even to necessarily inject my cultural opinions or my cultural views.
		It's more to say, hey, this populist movement that is gaining so much ground culturally, so much ground politically, we're risking all of it by turning into infighting purists.
		So let's just not do that.
unidentified		I don't know.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Just how I feel about it.
		I think most people would agree.
		Owen Schroyer live in the books brought to you as always through the Wolfpack.gold microphone.
		If you're not a member of the pack by now, what are you waiting for?
		I host the Alex Jones show tomorrow.
		I'll see you then, guys.
		Good night.
unidentified		I saw it to become the bell.
		Still in what we do, having heard.
		But baby, I don't need any of them.

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