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Dec. 4, 2025 - War Room - Harrison Smith

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Thursday War Room: FBI Arrests DNC Pipe-Bomber, Hegseth Coup Implodes, CDC Considers Stopping Recommendation of Hepatitis Vaccine for Newborns

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unidentified		InfoWars.
unidentified		Tomorrow's news today.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
		Welcome to the War Room.
		I'm your host, Harrison Smith, coming to you live this Thursday afternoon from the InfoWars headquarters here in Austin, Texas.
		Very big show for you today.
		Joel Webbin will be joining us in the third hour.
		Very controversial figure on X because of his hot takes about religion and politics and others.
		Very excited to talk to him.
		We got a lot of stories to get to.
		Somalia and the invasion of Minnesota by Somalians will be the main focus of a lot of our coverage today.
		I've done a lot of digging into this, and I have some horrifying things to show you.
		But we'll begin today, as we do every day, with our Daily Dispatch.
		All right, here it is, folks.
		Your daily dispatch for Thursday, the 4th of December, 2025.
		Suspect arrested in January 5th, D.C. pipe bomb case.
		The FBI has arrested a suspect in its investigation into pipe bombs planted near the Republican and Democratic National Party headquarters in Washington, D.C. Brian Cole Jr., 30 years old, was arrested and charged with transporting an explosive device and attempting malicious destruction by means of explosive material, according to the charging document filed Thursday afternoon.
		The arrest marks a breakthrough in a case that has stymied investigations for nearly five years.
		Attorney General Pam Bondi credited investigators and prosecutors for sifting through evidence that had been sitting at the FBI, noting how no new tips led to the arrest, just a reinvestigation of the evidence already in their hands.
		I'm not so sure about this.
		Well, we'll pay.
		We'll tell you what they're saying and we'll show you the video from the press conference.
		Just call me skeptical if you want.
		Seems a bit coincidental that we have literally zero new updates for five years on this case.
		Then Steve Baker and the Blaze come out saying that they're pretty certain that they've discovered who planted the bombs, claiming it was a Capitol Police woman who later joined the CIA.
		And then a week later, suddenly we have an arrest of this anarchist guy.
		It's just what a coincidence.
		What an incredible coin.
		What are the odds, folks?
		What are the odds?
		Unbelievable is what they are.
		So yeah, we'll return to this, but it's all very convenient.
		Meanwhile, CDC vaccine advisors to revisit hepatitis B vaccine at birth.
		Federal vaccine advisors selected by Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. delayed until Friday a vote to lift a long-standing recommendation for all newborns to get the hepatitis B vaccine and what would be the most sweeping revision to the childhood vaccine schedule under Kennedy.
		The advisors heard presentations in the morning, including from two prominent vaccine critics hired by the CDC, casting doubt on the safety and necessity of three-dose series of hepatitis B vaccines given to babies, despite widespread agreement by medical and public health experts that the vaccine is safe and effective.
		Safe and effective, but also unnecessary and also not safe or effective.
		But it might be effective.
		At giving girls cancer, the whole thing's ridiculous.
		It's just another one of these things where it's the valve.
		It's the governmental valve that we've been discussing, the one-way ratchet.
		When they introduced hepatitis B vaccines, when they by Fiat dictated that every single newborn within 10 minutes of breathing their first breath be injected with this vaccine for a disease you only get by sharing drug needles.
		It just sort of happened.
		It just sort of appeared and it just, you know, quietly was integrated.
		And yeah, now you have to do this, even though it's a much more significant change going from not injecting your baby with a denuded hepatitis B vaccine to injecting them.
		lot bigger of a deal than just going back to not doing that.
		Regardless, that happened originally without a discussion, without objection, without even really weighing the pros and cons.
		It just sort of happened.
		Now that they want to reverse that decision, we're going to have infinite and possibly impossible to overcome barriers to reversing that decision.
		Meanwhile, Representative Vilhallman Omar discusses Trump's attacks on Somali immigrants.
		Yeah, this is not going well for them.
		We'll get into this.
		Just the Somali immigrant topic is going to be a major topic of conversation today as we just point by point dismantle everything anybody ever says positive about that population.
		Pentagon says Pete Heck Seth completely cleared of Signalgate controversy.
		Thank goodness.
		Let's get back to calling him a war criminal about the boats, okay?
		Because it's not ending.
		They're not going to stop until they get Heck Seth out.
		It's the key point in their entire plan to, you know, overthrow Trump with the military.
		It must be done.
unidentified		We just have to find a scandal to do it with.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
		This is the war room.
		We got a lot to cover today.
		We've got this statement from a Venezuelan military intelligence whistleblower confirming the CIA outsources election rigging technology like SmartMatic from Venezuela.
		Pretty bombshell stuff.
		Of course, you were watching Alex Jones show.
		You saw him discussing that.
		And we'll get back into that, but I think we'll start with the pipe bomber press conference that occurred.
		I'm just, you know, I'm just a little suspicious of it.
		I'd love to live in a country where when the FBI, the Attorney General of the nation, and the FBI director and like these very important and high-powered people get up and speak into the camera saying that something happened, I would love to be able to believe them.
		Wouldn't that be something?
		Wouldn't that be nice to have the most authoritative people in your nation telling you the truth to the point that you can just accept what they say without skepticism?
		We're not anywhere near that at this point.
		And I have a lot of questions about the discovery of this pipe bomber.
		Is it coincidental?
		Is it just a coincidence that about a week or so ago, Steve Baker and the Blaze came out saying they thought they had identified the pipe bomber through gate analysis and determined that it was a member of the Capitol police force who was later recruited by the CIA.
		And then just one week later, they claim to have found the real person, some guy named, was it Brian Cole, I think.
		Is that just coincidence?
		Was that just random, huh?
		So for five years, we get literally nothing.
		I mean, has there been, unless I'm misremembering, it was shortly after January 6th, we got the video of the pipe bomber themselves, and then that was it.
		That was in early 2021.
		We are now at late 2025, and there's been no development whatsoever for five years.
		And then a week after the Blaze claims to have found the pipe bomber, the FBI comes out and says, no, actually, we just found him just now.
		What do you know?
		We're so good at our jobs.
		Yeah, I don't know.
		I don't know about this.
		I don't necessarily have anything specific to point to.
		Just a general sense of skepticism.
		Brian Cole Jr., 30, was arrested and charged with transporting an explosive device and attempted malicious destruction by means of explosive materials.
		Attorney General Pam Bondi credited investigators and prosecutors for sifting through evidence that had been sitting at the FBI, noting that no new tips had led to the arrest.
		Quote, this investigation is ongoing, Bondi said.
		As we speak, search warrants are being executed, and there could be more charges to come.
unidentified		Okay, cool.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Again, they gave a bunch of speeches.
		I thought about clipping some of them out, but it's a lot of chest beating and not a lot of information about it, actually.
		I have one selected clip from the pipe bomber presser.
		It's Janine Pirro, who apparently was sort of in charge of this task force.
		There's a video of them raiding the suspect's house.
		They say he continued to make bomb material even after his failed attempt on January 5th.
		Why did it fail?
		Why didn't the bombs go off?
		That's my question.
		Were they explosive?
		Did you just not do it very well?
		I'm just confused.
		Why didn't the bombs go off if they were there for like 17 hours?
		And if they didn't go off when they were supposed to, why didn't he go collect them?
		I'm just thinking through this here in real time.
		So you've got this person who goes and drops off a bomb in front of the DNC and a bomb in front of the RNC and then walks away.
		It's got a timer on it.
		It's got an egg timer on it, like a kitchen timer.
		Now I have one of those kitchen timers.
		It goes up to 60 minutes.
		Is this some sort of modified one that had a longer fuse?
		Or did he set it, prime it to explode in 30 minutes, and then just left and never went back?
		Like, why would he not go back to collect the bomb if it didn't go off?
		Why didn't it go off?
		I don't think any of these questions were answered.
		Viva Fry clipped out one part and he's like, this is the most information you get from the press conference.
		It's Janine Pirro talking about the way that they, I guess, found the end caps from the bomb and then systematically went through every single purchase of those end caps from every single store in America to try to cross-analyze where it could have come from with other activity from what they knew of the suspect.
		Sounds very complicated and fake.
		It sounds very complicated and very not true.
		Let's go to Janine Pierrow.
		Here's her celebrating finding the January 5th pipe bomber.
		Let's watch.
judge jeanine pirro ▲ ● ▼		You know, folks, this case involved millions of pieces of data.
		And it is a huge win because it was like finding a needle in a haystack.
		So much of this evidence was very specific, but a lot of it was also very general.
		For example, there were 233,000 black end caps of the type that were used in this case.
		I want you to think about the fact that the FBI had to go through the sale of every one of them to try to find commonality with an individual, along with the purchase of the pipe itself, the cap ends, the wires, the steel, and the nine-volt batteries.
		Every one of those had to be mined and remined to the point where we were able to then connect.
		And make no mistake, it was this administration, it was this president who made the decision that we were going to use all of our efforts to get it done and get it done.
		They did.
unidentified		Have you recovered the notable sneakers?
		Have you done surveillance of this suspect from that aha moment when you exercise the search warrants today?
		And obviously, this happened on January 5th into January 6th.
		How should the public look at this case separate from all of the cases related to what transpired on January 6th and the president's subsequent parties?
pam bondi ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to let Director Patel take the evidence part.
		We have to be careful again.
		You've asked very good investigative questions, but this is ongoing, very active.
		But America should feel safer today.
		We say a pipe bomb.
		These are bombs.
		These were live, active bombs that were placed in Washington, D.C. Director.
kash patel ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		This shows you how much detail you and the American public have paid attention to this case.
		Of course, we analyze everything that you're seeing on this poster board and information that you will see through the formal charging process and court process.
		But we want to let that evidence speak for itself because, again, we do not want to disrupt the accountability that we owe the American public.
		Yes, you heard about the cell phone tower data.
		Yes, you heard about, of course, we surveil individuals who we think we're going to blow up American citizens.
		But how and when we do it and why we do it is not something we're ever going to reveal unless the Department of Justice deems it fit at trial.
		So we appreciate your attention to detail and your hardcore investigative work.
		But you can just imagine some of those same skills are being utilized by this FBI, this Department of Justice, our partners, the ATF, and everybody across the board.
		And this is an interagency win for the American people.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so that's what we got.
		That's the information we got, more or less, from this press conference.
		Apparently, they stormed the house around 8.15 a.m. this morning.
		A neighbor looked out the window and saw officers standing outside the suspect's home, ordering people to inside to come out with their hands raised.
		The daughter saw officers handcuff a middle-aged woman and a younger man, place them in a patrol car and then return them to the house.
		It wasn't clear if they were brought back out again, the neighbor said.
		The neighbors said it's a quiet block with friendly neighbors.
		He didn't appear to interact with people that lived at the address.
		And this was in Northern Virginia, where this guy was arrested.
		The FBI said the pipe bombs, which are discovered about 15 hours after they were placed, were viable devices that could have seriously injured or killed bystanders.
		The Bureau said investigators have conducted more than 1,000 interviews and reviewed tens of thousands of video files.
		Last month, it says the FBI debunked another piece of speculation that suggested the bombs were planted by a former Capitol police officer.
		I don't remember it being debunked.
		I remember them denying it, but I don't think anybody ever sued over it for defamation, which you would expect since they published the person's name and face and everything in the accusation.
		They're pretty confident in it.
		And then one week later, we get this Brian Cole Jr. fella.
		So there you go.
		The speculation, or at least the reporting so far is that he's an anarchist, I guess, which would align sort of with Antifa theology, ideology.
		But there's a lot of still unanswered questions about all of this.
		Like I guess what we're being told is the way they found him was through tracking the purchases of these end caps for the PVC bomb or not PVC, but whatever, the pipe end caps.
		I'd like to know what else they did that failed.
		Like, how do you not find this guy for five years?
		How do you not have any new information for five years?
		You're not tracking his cell phone.
		You're not able to track him as he goes through the city.
		You weren't able to find a vehicle that he got into, anybody that he interacted with.
		I mean, all we have was like 30 seconds of video footage.
		And even in that footage, the man is seen waving a salute to a cop car as it rolls by.
		That's a little suspicious.
		Again, if these bombs were viable and primed and live, why didn't they go off?
		I mean, put yourself in the mindset of a pipe bomber.
		Okay.
		Think about it for yourself for a little bit.
		How many of these things would you do, right?
		Would you set a bomb for 15 hours?
		I mean, when you're making a bomb, it's a pretty safe thing to do if you're at home, if you haven't, you know, searched the stuff.
		Like, no one's going to come kicking down your door while you're making the bomb.
		You know, unless you're speeding or driving erratically, no one's going to pull you over while you carry the bomb.
		There's only a very small moment where your whole plan can be discovered, exposed, and stopped.
		And that's after you plant the bomb and before it goes off.
		So that's the time you want to minimize, right?
		I'm just thinking, you know, hypothetically here, if I was trying to bomb somewhere, what I wouldn't do is plant a bomb where it can be seen by any passerby and have it go off 24 hours later.
unidentified		What?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Typically, isn't the point of having a time bomb that it's enough time for you just to get away and then it goes off?
		Isn't that the point?
		And that way you have an egg timer because you don't need to set something for 12 hours from now.
		You set it for one minute from now, just get you enough time to clear the area.
		And I guess if he's trying to like flee the country, maybe you'd set it for an hour.
		But then when you hide it a little better, I just, this isn't making sense to me, personally.
		Was it set to go off in 16 hours and they found it 15 hours in?
		Thank God.
		Is that what happened?
		Or did he set it to go off in 30 minutes and then it didn't?
		And he thought, yeah, oh well.
		I tried, you know, gave it my best shot.
		Oh, well, he just left it there.
		Like, you'd either, if it didn't go off, if you set it for a brief timer and then nothing happens, you're either going to go pick it up because you don't want it to be discovered because it's still intact, which means there's still evidentiary qualities to it.
		So you don't want the police to find your intact unexploded bomb.
		So maybe you just go collect it so the police don't get it, or you would go collect it so you could figure out what was wrong with it so you could set it off again.
		I'm just thinking out loud here.
		What was this exactly?
		And what was the person trying to accomplish?
		Now, according to the press conference, we got a lot of vague vocabulary about an attack on our way of life.
		Okay, what?
		But why on January 5th?
		Why at the DNC and the RNC?
		A lot of this just isn't aligning for me.
		So maybe we'll find out more as more information is forthcoming.
		The timing to me is still the most suspicious part, but there's a lot of these other questions that don't have answers either.
		There's also the fact that the bomb itself was made to look like to the exact specifications and using the exact materials that the FBI uses when it's foiling bomb plots.
		It's a really common thing that they'll do.
		The FBI, and sometimes it'll be that they actually start the whole process in the first place, but other times it is legitimate where they'll infiltrate a group of some sort or identify a person that is making extremist content, extremist statements, and they'll get in contact with them undercover and they'll help them to carry out their plan.
		Of course, they think they're being helped.
		Really, it's the FBI just luring them in.
		And they'll usually go so far, like to get the conviction, you can't just arrest somebody and go, trust us, he wanted to build a bomb.
		He was totally going to do something, but we stopped him.
		You have to actually fulfill certain requirements.
		Like there's a checklist you have to get to, and it's very specific.
		There's things like the FBI has to ask them at least three times, are you sure you want to do this?
		Okay, so what happens is you get some radical guy, he's pissed off.
		Like there's a there's a movie about this.
		There's like an FBI film about this.
		I need to find the name for it.
		But in that story, and it's based on a true story, there's a guy from Alaska.
		He was pissed off that his house was being foreclosed on by the bank and he blamed this district judge for ruling against him.
		So he was going to go bomb the district judge.
		And so he goes to his nephew, who is an explosives expert in a construction company, and says, Hey, can you give me a bomb?
		His nephew goes, This isn't good, calls the FBI and says, Hey, I think my uncle is going to bomb somebody.
		The FBI says, Okay, you're working with us.
		Do what your uncle said.
		Help your uncle, you know, pretend to build him a bomb.
		We're going to give you a fake bomb, but the uncle has to take that bomb, plant the bomb, set the bomb in his mind, thinking he's bombing somebody.
		Then you arrest him.
		So you go, this wasn't just a guy talking about doing this.
		He tried to do it.
		Now it was a fake bomb that we supplied that the FBI supplied him, so it didn't succeed.
		But if we hadn't been there, then he would have done this with another bomb.
		You know, so he goes to jail.
		But you have to, like three times, you have to go, well, you're about to plant the bomb.
		Are you sure you want to?
		You don't have to.
		And they have to give him at least three times or else it's entrapment.
		And the case won't go anywhere.
		So like they have, they have very particular methods for doing that exact thing.
		You find somebody who's a radical.
		They want to bomb somebody.
		You give them a fake bomb.
	They go plant the fake bomb.
	You arrest them.
	No harm, no foul.
	Nobody gets hurt.
	No bomb explodes.
	The bomb was never a real bomb in the first place.
	That's how this works.
	So when they do that, they have particular bombs that they make, right?
	They'ren't just coming up with a new type of bomb every time they run one of these operations.
	They have a standard bomb that they create.
	And it looks exactly like the one that was found.
	And the one that was found, it didn't explode after 15 hours.
	So it was either never going to explode, never actually rigged to explode, or rigged to explode 15 or more hours after it was planted.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	So, anyway, those are my questions I still have about it.
	Seems to me, just on first blush, like this just seems a lot like it's the cover-up.
	It's a Patsy.
	It's what they've come out with to stop everybody speculating about who the real bomber is.
	I personally haven't seen a picture or a video of this guy yet.
	We're showing videos of the guy's home there in Northern Virginia.
	It looks like a very nice home.
	Of course, Northern Virginia does happen to be the place where all of the intelligence community offices and homes are based.
	It is the richest part of the entire country because it's where all of the government contractors, weapons manufacturers, and heads of the military industrial complex make their home.
	And that seemed to be a very well-off neighborhood that this person was in.
	So maybe we'll find out more about that as time unfolds.
	But I have my questions.
	But I'm just a little suspicious.
	Sorry.
	Sorry about that.
	Oh, geez.
	Okay.
	So we're going to move on.
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	I am going to get into the Somalis.
	I am going to get into the siege of Minneapolis, the conquering of Minnesota.
	And I have so much to get to about this.
	I'm not even going to be able to in this three-hour show.
	There's more than you can even imagine.
	And I just, there's, I don't even know how to explain it.
	America is being screwed in so many different directions.
	Like, death by a thousand cuts doesn't even rise to it.
	Like, just scrolling through Exoday, it's just like Somalis stealing billions of dollars.
	The CDL truck drivers being, you know, American truck drivers being screwed.
	Just immigration as a whole is just one gigantic con job screwing us out of our past and our future.
	But that's like just barely scratching the surface.
	And we've done this to ourselves.
	And that's what I want to try to emphasize to people.
	You know, like the devil's greatest trick is making people think he doesn't exist.
	Or as Alex puts it, making people think that good doesn't exist.
	The liberals' greatest trick is making people think this is inevitable.
	It's not.
	All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
	This is the war room.
unidentified		Beginning to feel a lot like Christmas.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		What do you do during Christmas?
		During the Christmas season, of course, you go to the mall.
		Of course, you got to go to the mall.
		You got to see the big tree and take pictures in front of it.
		If you got kids, you got to go sit on Santa's lap.
		You got to do shopping for your friends and family.
		It's just the mall's not really what it used to be anymore, is it?
		I have very fond memories of the Galleria Houston as a giant ice skating rink right in the middle.
		It's just the perfect setting for Christmas.
		Maybe not so much in Minnesota.
		Maybe the most iconic mall of them all, Mall of America, might be a good place to start our discussion.
		What has happened with the Somalians in Minnesota?
		And there's a couple angles to take in this.
		I think we point here, you know, there's that classic phrase: it's easier to trick somebody than convince somebody they've been tricked, fool somebody or tricks, you know, tell somebody they've been fooled.
		That's sort of my obligation here is I'm here to tell Americans, you have all been tricked.
		You have all been tricked and you have all continue to be tricked.
		And it's time to wake up from this.
		And it's time to stop listening to the liars and the tricksters making you a fool and to really understand what the consequences of this trickery have been.
		So I can hear it now.
		Like people have this, like the hair on the back of their neck stands up.
		And they get angry if you say something like, we need to get all of these freaking Somalians out of Minnesota.
		They feel like it's an insight.
		It's almost like you're attacking their character because they're like, no, this is who we are.
		We're so open.
		We're so charitable.
		We're so good.
		And you are trying to steal that from us.
		And I'm here to tell you, there's nothing good.
		There's nothing moral.
		There is nothing ethical about being taken advantage of.
		And that's what's happening here.
		You are not a good person for giving to somebody who says they're a charity, but then spends the money on a car.
		You're not a good person for being taken advantage of.
		That's really what I want to emphasize.
		And I want to wake people up, shake them out of their hypnotism, the coma that they're in, that has them thinking that what's going on right now is somehow inevitable, is somehow a natural consequence of the modern world.
		Not that you have the ability to stop this trajectory, deflect, re-aim it, but rather it's up to you to reform yourself to fit with the modern reality.
		And I always talk about how apparent this came to me, and it really is like hard to explain unless you experience it.
		Going to somewhere like Japan.
		Because even if you don't consciously think it, it's just sort of assumed in America that all of the chaos, all of the crime, all of the insanity that we deal with on a daily basis is just part and parcel with the modern world.
		Like the modern world is fast, it's chaotic, it's overcrowded, and it's just sort of this is just what's going to happen because humans can only organize so well.
		We're kind of constantly playing keep up to just, you know, the natural development of humanity.
		And then you go to somewhere like Japan and you go, wait a second, they're more modern than us, more in better technology than we have, better organized, you know, more integrated technological advancements.
		And there's none of that.
		There's none of the chaos.
		There's none of the havoc.
		There's none of the misery, at least not that you can see in the way that you can see it driving around a street in America.
		And so, you know, whether it's just like a homeless camp cropping up under the bridge or the mall that you used to take your kids to becoming the war zone of gangs, these things don't just happen.
		They don't just occur.
		It's not just a natural development of humanity.
		They are the consequences of decisions made by people who desire these outcomes.
		It's on purpose.
		And I really don't understand people that grew up in the old world, the world that I was born into, the boomers out there that lived until they were 30 or 40 in an America that was largely homogeneous, fairly safe, and certainly extremely aesthetically pleasing.
		And then to experience the 30 years of abject decline and to not be outraged by this.
		To look at what it used to be like, look at where it is now and not be infuriated at the deliberate destruction that has been wrought on your home against your family.
		I don't understand why people are okay with this.
		And the only reason I really think that the powers of beat get away with it is because they've convinced people that it just, this just occurs.
		I've said this many times.
		Like the key to being a quote-unquote conspiracy theorist and understanding how the world actually works is understanding that things don't just happen.
		You know, 50,000 Somalis didn't just crop up in the middle of Minnesota all of the sudden one day and they're all looking around like, what, how'd we get here?
		And everybody else is going, I don't know.
		I guess we'll have to build houses for you.
		This is weird.
		This was a policy.
		It was deliberate.
	And the outcome was as designed.
	It's what we're experiencing now.
	I'm rambling a lot, but the point is, let's start it with clip 36.
	The point is, when I was three years old, this is what the country looked like.
	Clip 36, this is the Mall of America in Minnesota, biggest mall in the world, sort of an icon of American capitalism.
	And this is what it looked like in 1993 during the winter break.
	It looks pretty nice.
	Looks pretty nice.
	And we just keep this going as B-roll.
	This was 1993.
	Now, the first Somalis arrived in Minnesota this year, 1993.
	This was the world they entered into.
	And we can skip ahead, skip around.
	This is like an hour-long home video footage.
	This isn't something produced by the Mall of America, giving you the best vision of it.
	This isn't something that, you know, I went through and chose in particular things that look particularly good.
	It's just a home video showing an average day at the Mall of America, looking like a friggin' utopian theme park, full of happy people and families having fun.
	Okay.
	It went from this to what it is now.
	We can go to clip 34 here or clip 35 or clip third clip or any of these other clips.
	Goes from that to this.
	Oh, look, it's roving gangs of Somali youth beating each other.
	Look, it's turned into a war zone.
	What do you know?
	What do you know?
	And it is ironic that literally there's like a ton of videos of this fight in particular.
	But yeah, this is the same mall, same mall of America, only instead of, you know, happy families and polo shirts and khaki pants, you have a bunch of men in dresses wandering around fighting each other.
	Wow, incredible.
	Was this a positive development?
	Are we doing better now than we were before the Somalis arrived?
	Did this just happen one day?
	Or is this the consequence of three decades of deliberate demographic replacement?
	And it is ironic that these gangs of the Somali youth are fighting and then there's like three white security guards have to come in and stop the chaos.
	As another example, Minnesota streets.
	These are again, roving gangs of Somalis.
	Now, I keep using that phrase in particular because that's the phrase that the attorney general or the district attorney, the county attorney for Hennepin County, clip number 21, that's the term she used when she says there are no roving gangs of Somali criminals.
	Okay.
	Well, I just showed you like four videos of them.
	Let's go now to clip number 21.
mary moriarty ▲ ● ▼		County attorney Miri Moriarty.
		There are reports that the Trump administration is planning to send ICE agents here to the Twin Cities to target our neighbors of Somali descent.
		This is part of a recent pattern to single out our Somali community members.
		This is rooted in the idea that if they spew hatred, it will divide us.
		But we won't let that happen.
		There are no roving gangs of Somali people in this community harassing, threatening, doing anything to any of our community members.
		And let me repeat that again because I've heard this often.
		There are no roving gangs of Somalis targeting or harassing or doing anything inappropriate to any community members.
		Those are simply lies.
		It is not true.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't happen.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Don't believe you're lying, Alex.
unidentified		See, this is the real battle that we're up against.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		To get to the Somalis, you got to get through the lesbian attorneys.
		The poor, innocent, loving Somalis are protected by a phalanx of Ural and degenerous types.
		They're ready to make sure that no matter how many billions of dollars they steal, no matter how many children get raped or kidnapped, no matter how much the social services strain under the weight of a destitute and scam-ridden population, they will remain forever.
		Okay.
		We have to get through those people first in order to eject the Somalis.
		So again, just abject blatant lies.
		There are no roving gangs of Somalis doing anything to anyone ever.
		This has been a established feature of Minneapolis for the last decade.
		I showed you the video yesterday from Alex Jones from a decade ago.
		And the song, we love our Somalis.
		Oh, they're so good.
		Oh, they're so sweet.
		You know, that's because a Somali person had stabbed somebody at a mall 10 years ago, right?
		Because this has been an ongoing crisis for a decade.
		I can still remember videos from back in, I think, 2015 outside of the train station in Minneapolis where you had a white guy coming home drunk at like two in the morning.
		And there's a video somebody's filming from an apartment balcony.
		And it's just a gang of Somali youth just like taking turns jumping on him and kicking him in the head.
		It's actually kind of a regular feature now, 30 years after the immigration began.
		And, you know, as I was going through footage and looking for footage of the mall, the mall of America, or, you know, just Somali mall, I saw this one video and I didn't save it because it wasn't what I was looking for, but and now I can't find it.
		But I didn't realize till afterwards how sort of poignant it was.
		It's gonna be kind of hard to explain, so stick with me.
		But the Somali community in Minnesota has recently been busted for running multiple billion-dollar scams to funnel money to terrorist groups in their homeland, Somalia.
		And a lot of people are out there saying this is a clash of cultures because Somalis are low trust.
		And they keep using that word.
		And it's often a word that's invoked when you're talking about, you know, populations or demographic homogeneity.
		As you hear, there's high trust and low trust societies.
		There's a difference, though.
		There's a problem with that, however.
		I'm looking for videos for a Somali mall.
		I find a video of a white guy who's going through a Somali shopping center in Minneapolis.
		I swear, I couldn't.
		I've searched for an hour to find this video again.
		I can't find it.
		So I'm just going to have to explain it to you.
		But he's walking around a Somali shopping center and he's saying, yeah, we're like the only two white guys here.
		There's like a giant Somali flag painted on the ceiling.
		And he's going like floor to floor.
		And he's like, you know, the weird thing is a lot of these shops, if there's no customers, the people running in, they're running the shop just leave.
		And so he's walking into stores where there's nobody there.
		And he's like, yeah, this is such a high trust society.
		They don't even worry about locking their stores or shutting the door to their stores if they're not there because it's a high trust society.
		And I think that's key to understanding what's going on here.
		The Somalis are not a low trust society amongst themselves.
		Okay.
		It's not that just it's a population replete with criminals who are stealing from everybody they can.
		Within their own community, they don't even lock their doors.
		They don't steal from each other.
		They don't scam each other.
		So understand when they're running these billion-dollar scams, it's not like they're scamming their own people.
		They know exactly what they're doing.
		They're scamming you.
		They're scamming the non-Somali people.
		They're scamming America and Americans, and they know that, which is why they do it.
		They don't scam themselves.
		This isn't a matter of just a low trust population coming into an area and just committing crimes against everybody.
		No, it's a community.
		It's a population unified, cohesive, one block together conspiring to scam everybody else.
		I think it's important to understand.
		That's why I really wish I'd grabbed this video, but it wasn't, just wasn't the video I was looking for.
		But then I just kept thinking about it because the guy goes, yeah, it's a really high, you know, high trust community.
		They just leave their stores open.
		Anybody can walk in.
		I can walk out with anything I want now.
		But it's all Somalis here, so nobody does.
	It's not a low trust community.
	It's a high trust community for each other, for them.
	And then they scam everybody outside that community.
	It's not that complicated.
	But it tells you what we're actually dealing with here.
	Which actually, this should be good news for the anti-racist people because it is always like, oh, if you talk about Somali crimes, it's because you think Somalis just are innately criminal.
	It's like, well, if they were just innately criminal, they would be stealing from themselves too.
	If it was just a matter of they naturally, it naturally occurs in the Somali brain, a low propensity for self-control and a high propensity for crime, then they would be stealing from themselves.
	They would be stealing from each other.
	That must not be what it is.
	It's not a naturally occurring inclination to steal.
	It's a very deliberate desire to steal from people that aren't them.
	I think it's a really important point to get across.
	It's not just Somalis either, but let's just, I guess we'll stick with the Somalis for now, but this spirals out because there are lots of populations like this.
	You want to zoom in on the Somali population, you find billion-dollar scams, you find Medicare scams, welfare scams.
	They all are on government housing with the $100,000 cars.
	I mean, you find scam after scam after scam.
	What do you think happens if you zoom in on the Afghan community?
	What do you think happens if you zoom in on the illegal South American communities?
	What do you think happens if you zoom in on the Haiti communities?
	This is just, it's the spotlight is on the Somalis right now.
	So crimes are coming to light.
	Do you think it's because it's the only population doing this?
	And the more you like realize just how much we're being scammed, it is truly incomprehensible.
	Like, I think my brain is not capable of maintaining all of these different, like I can't even think about all the scams going on at once.
	Because it's not just the illegal immigration, which is a scam in and of itself, and then taking our jobs.
	And then those corporations are lobbying for the government programs that give the welfare so they can lower their pay rate that they do.
	And then the housing prices go up.
	And it's just, and then they bring in all of their family.
	And it's just like, this is just one tiny facet on like the disco ball of this one little tiny frame on the many, many, many sided manifestation of scams in our country.
	And that's just, this is just like the lowest level stuff.
	That's not even getting into the real big scams where they're stealing $100 billion to kill Ukrainians.
	It's like we are just robbed relentlessly.
	And it's frankly a miracle we're still going at all, let alone the most powerful country in the world.
	It almost doesn't make any sense.
	I just keep getting an image of just like this elephant marching on and it's just like 100 spears in its side.
	They've hit it with a cannon.
	They're just like thousand pound weights piled on top of it.
	They're tying up its feet and it's just, we just keep marching on.
	There's, it's like, and they're just, they're just like sucking gallons of blood out of us and we just keep going.
	It's like we're so powerful.
	We're so strong.
	We're so prosperous that we can be scammed by a billion Somalis and a billion South Americans and a billion Jews and a billion Muslims.
	And it's just, we don't even notice.
	The vast majority of Americans don't even know what's going on.
	And it really is incredible.
	It really is something else.
	Let's go to clip number 24 here.
	This is Patrick Bette David talking about just one program that's just, again, just the amount of scams that we're suffering under is just truly unbelievable.
	Let's watch Patrick Bett David.
patrick bet-david ▲ ● ▼		Rob, you had one of the charts that you had up a minute ago, which was phenomenal, showing who's getting entitlement benefits.
		Check this out.
		This is family receiving welfare.
unidentified		So purple is illegal-headed households.
patrick bet-david ▲ ● ▼		Red is legal immigrants.
patrick bet-david ▲ ● ▼		Blue is U.S.-born-headed households.
unidentified		The people we want to give it to.
patrick bet-david ▲ ● ▼		The people you want to give it to.
unidentified		And when you look at this, cash go with a food.
patrick bet-david ▲ ● ▼		Look at what food looks like.
		Illegal, 48%.
		Legal, 38%.
		That becomes what?
		That's 82%.
		Whatever that number is, massive percentage of it is those two.
		Then you have the Americans.
		People see numbers like this.
		They're like, what am I doing with my taxpayer?
		Why am I paying taxes to support who?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Why am I paying taxes?
		Because they'll kill you if you don't.
		Because they'll throw you in jail if you don't.
		No, you're being robbed at gunpoint to feed people who gleefully scam from you.
		In fact, Ilhan Omar was asked about this, and her answer was that it was our fault for making it too easy to scam.
		The small ancients couldn't, they couldn't resist.
		They couldn't help themselves.
		It was our fault for making it so easy to scam us.
		Stupid Americans having a high trust society that has vulnerabilities because we want to take care of the less fortunate.
		We're so dumb.
		Let's go to clip number 23 here.
unidentified		Can you shed any light on why the fraud got so out of control in Minnesota?
ilhan omar ▲ ● ▼		I think what happened is that, you know, when you have these kind of new programs that are designed to help people, you're oftentimes relying on third parties to be able to facilitate.
ilhan omar ▲ ● ▼		And I just think that a lot of the COVID programs that were set up, they were set up so quickly that a lot of the guardrails did not get created.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, those guardrails didn't get created.
		So we robbed you for a billion dollars.
		Yeah.
		It's your fault, really.
		You should have created guardrails to stop us from scamming you.
		You fools.
		How dare you do this to us?
		Really is incredible.
		During a 20-month period, the Feeding Our Future scammers billed over 125 million fake meals, claiming they were all for children, never made a meal.
		Clip 19 here.
unidentified		The first seven defendants in this massive case are standing trial together, and their portion of the alleged scam is centered in Shakopee.
		At a strip mall just off the main drag in Shakopee, where Empire Cuisine and Market used to be located, Abdi Aziz Farah and Mohammed Ismail claimed to serve millions of meals to Minnesota kids in 2020 and 2021.
		This portion of the alleged Feeding Our Future scheme involved $30 million in federal funds for which they weren't entitled.
		Money laundering, extravagant purchases, and the help of six other defendants, according to federal prosecutors.
		Like many of the anecdotes made public in the $250 million Feeding Our Future case, some of the things the defendants in this first trial are accused of doing border on absurd.
		Prosecutors say the defendants claim to be serving meals to kids in places that make no sense, such as this big parking lot in Shakopee, or in derelict commercial spaces like this.
		According to court documents, the defendants created sham meal count sheets and phony attendance rosters with children names such as Man Sincere, Ron Donald, or even John Doe.
		Names the Shakopee School District is expected to testify don't exist in their schools.
		Then what was done with the money?
		Prosecutors say they will trace how the defendants used the federal money to buy vehicles, real estate, a down payment on a $2.5 million home build in a honeymoon in the Maldives.
		The two main defendants were also charged with passport fraud, and Ismail pleaded guilty to that.
		But as to the alleged meal fraud, attorneys for the defendants say they did not knowingly defraud the government.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Knowingly defraud the government.
unidentified		Yeah.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		You know, it gets confusing.
		It gets a little confusing because of the sheer number, the volume and scale of these scams that this one community has brought to our shores in just the time that I've been alive.
		What you're just hearing there was one aspect of the Feeding Our Future scam.
		You heard the reporters say that.
		This is one part of the scam.
		That was just part of it, these two guys.
		I mean, it's much bigger than that.
		But then you've got the COVID scamming that Ilhan Omar was blaming on us not stopping them from scamming us.
		Okay.
		But then on top of that, you've got the welfare scam.
		You've got, like this, DHS freezes new home and community-based care license for two years.
		Its applications explode 283%.
		That's the housing, you know, the government housing scam that they're running.
		That doesn't even, you know, include the autism scam that they ran, where every single Somali person in Minnesota claimed to have a child with autism, got money from the federal government incident to al-Shabaab, the terrorist group in Somalia.
		It's hard to even wrap your mind around or like start to talk about this because you're talking about one scam and 15 other scams crop up.
		Of course, Elhund Omar knows about it.
		She wrote the bill that allowed it all.
		I'll tell you about that on the other side.
		Let's just get all these people out of our country.
ilhan omar ▲ ● ▼		Somalis are not terrorizing this nation.
		We are helping it thrive.
		Somalis have always seen themselves as a fabric of this nation.
will cain ▲ ● ▼		As many of you know, Minnesota is drowning in fraud.
jon bowne ▲ ● ▼		In Minnesota, a state with the largest Somali immigrant population in the United States, extensive welfare fraud schemes have siphoned billions of taxpayer dollars from federal and state programs, primarily orchestrated by members of the Somali community.
jon bowne ▲ ● ▼		The most notorious case, Feeding Our Future, involved fake nonprofits submitting bogus meal claims during the COVID-19 pandemic, defrauding over $250 million in child nutrition funds.
unidentified		The brazen scheme of staggering proportions.
		The largest pandemic fraud in the United States.
		The subjects in this case weren't interested in Feeding Our Future.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		They were interested in feeding their own gluttony.
jeff wagner ▲ ● ▼		We have new details on a jury tampering scheme at the center of a major fraud case.
		Federal prosecutors indicted five people for their roles in offering a juror $120,000 for a not guilty verdict in the Feeding Our Future fraud scheme.
		The U.S. attorney says the group targeted juror 52 because she was the youngest juror and appeared to be the only juror of color.
		According to court documents, they dug up information on her family online and even put a GPS tracking device on her car to track her whereabouts.
		During their investigation, investigators uncovered a video of one of the defendants leaving a bag of money at the juror's home.
jon bowne ▲ ● ▼		Similar scams have targeted Medicaid's autism services, where providers inflated diagnoses among Somali children, jumping from $3 million in spending in 2018 to $399 million in 2023.
unidentified		According to the charging documents, Hassan worked with others to recruit families from the Somali community, whether kids had autism or not.
		Prosecutors write that there was no child that smart therapy was not able to get qualified for autism services.
		Then, to drive up enrollment, they paid monthly kickbacks to families between $300 to $1,500 per child.
		Prosecutors say Hassan and her partners paid for it all through the millions worth of fraudulent Medicaid claims.
will cain ▲ ● ▼		It didn't matter if the kids had autism.
		And what happened?
		Autism claims to Medicaid surged in 2018, $3 million.
		By 2023, listen here, from $3 million to $400 million.
jon bowne ▲ ● ▼		While housing stabilization programs created fictitious companies to build for non-existent services.
unidentified		At the August trial for Abdi Fatah Yousuf, the jury heard evidence that he ran his home health care company Promise Health out of a mailbox at a Central Avenue address where multiple other home health care companies were supposedly located.
		Youssef and his wife Lol Ahmed were charged with stealing $7.2 million of taxpayer money through Medicaid overbilling in a personal care assistant or PCA scam.
		Despite the jury swiftly convicting Yousaf, Judge Sarah West last week decided they got it wrong.
		Judge West ruled that the state's case relied heavily on circumstantial evidence.
		Jurors in the case can't believe the decision.
		I am shocked.
		I'm shocked based off of all of the evidence that was presented to us and the obvious guilt that we saw based off of the said evidence.
		It was not a difficult decision whatsoever.
jon bowne ▲ ● ▼		Federal prosecutors, led by acting U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson, have issued 77 indictments in the Feeding Our Future case alone with additional charges in autism and welfare fraud, totaling at least 28 scandals since 2019, amounting to an estimated $1 billion in losses.
		These frauds extend beyond mere theft, with investigations revealing that millions of the stolen funds were funneled back to Somalia through informal Hawaii networks, ultimately supporting the Al-Qaeda-linked terrorist group Al-Shabaab.
		Some defendants in the Feeding Our Future case donated to prominent Democrats, including Attorney General Keith Ellison and lobbied figures like Representative Ilhan Omar and former Senator Omar Fateh, who advocated for the programs.
omar fateh ▲ ● ▼		And I want to thank also Amy and her team, Feeding Our Future, for making this first court victory a reality.
jon bowne ▲ ● ▼		Things are heating up as President Trump terminated temporary protected status for Somalis in Minnesota on November 22nd, 2025, labeling the state a hub of fraudulent money laundering under Waltz's watch.
jon bowne ▲ ● ▼		John Baum reporting for Infowars.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
		This is The War Room.
		I'm your host, Harrison Smith.
		In studio with me is Joel Webbin.
		He is Pastor Joel Webbin.
		He's the president and founder of Wright Response Ministries and the senior pastor of Covenant Bible Church, located on the north side of Austin, Texas.
		You can follow him on X at Wright Response M on YouTube at Wright Response Ministries and go to rightresponseministries.com to find their website.
unidentified		You got all that right.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		That was amazing.
		Excellent.
		On my first try, too.
		Well, welcome to the show, sir.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me here, so appreciate it.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It's my pleasure.
		And I've been trying to get you on forever.
		It's my fault.
		Things kept falling through, but you're here now, and it's great to have you.
		And you make a lot of people mad on X.
unidentified		A little bit.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Like more than I think you deserve.
		I have to say.
		It's like, because I see people get mad at you.
		I'm like, why?
		What is it about you that makes people so angry?
		You seem very reasonable.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Yeah, I like to think that I'm just, you know, you're friendly, moderate, centrist, reasonable, understandable, you know, kind of guy.
		But yeah, I think I make people mad because of the way that I say things.
		And I've built a little bit of a reputation at this point.
		But now, even if I say things carefully, they're like, but he said it.
		So I'm supposed to be mad.
		But one of my greatest concerns is when I think about it, it's like people get mad at me because they're like, he's an anti-Semite.
		And I'm like, yeah, but like, I've got other great qualities too.
		Like, you know what I mean?
		Like, I'm also a homophobe, you know, and I'm also a sexist, you know, like there's like, there's plenty of other great qualities to cherish and appreciate.
		You know, so, but to answer the question, I'm, you know, being facetious, but in all honesty, I think it's because kind of run in the gambit, so to speak.
		You know, it's, it's not just a one, one trick pony, you know, like the Jews, you know, whatever, but um, but talking about Israel, talking about those kinds of things, but then also talking about feminism, you know, and then also talking about race actually being real and not hating anybody, but but recognizing, okay, we're not all the same.
		God, God created us in distinct ways, and those things should be acknowledged.
		So I've got like at least three categories right there for people to get mad.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		No matter how, no matter how carefully you try to say it, it's the ideas themselves that are offensive, I think.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Because I agree.
		It's like, I mean, part of it is, I think, just the vast majority of the population is stuck in this mindset that people like myself, I can't even imagine.
		Like the idea that they say race is a social construct.
		It's like, what is that even supposed to mean?
		It's so baffling and crazy.
		But then if you disagree with it, you're a racist white supremacist that wants to kill everybody that's not, you know, white is the driven snow.
		And it's like, no, no, no.
		It's just.
		Can you not tell that people have different appearances or character or, and it doesn't mean that everybody is a certain way, but it's, it's hard to even entertain or interact with a mindset so utterly disconnected with reality.
unidentified		Absolutely.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		And I think part of it is because we've lost the ability to speak or even think in categories, but also in generalities, right?
		So like, you know, the classic meme and it tends to be, well, this will get me in trouble with, you know, against feminism, but part of the part of the problem with the current discourse is that we've invited women into it.
		Seriously.
		So this is one of the things that people were mad at me this week about, or maybe it was last week.
		No, it was this week.
		I went viral.
		Somebody clipped me out.
		It's usually not me.
		I do a show.
		It gets some views, but then somebody will clip something out and it'll get a lot more views, which you're probably quite familiar with with this concept.
		But it's usually not me.
unidentified		It's usually not like, hey, this was a banger.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		This one, you know, 90 second clip.
		It's usually somebody else takes it.
		And sometimes it's somebody who hates me and they're like, this is bad.
		And I know it's bad and people are going to hate Joel for it.
		And so they, you know, they make it go viral.
		And sometimes it's like guys, you know, God bless them who are great guys who I appreciate.
		Some of them I even know personally.
		And they're like, this was my favorite part.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like, you're about to get me in trouble.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		You just, you're going to get me in big, big trouble.
		And so anyway, so the thing that was going, we were talking, me and my co-host, Wesley Todd, we were talking about men and women and the need to marry young, but particularly for women to marry young, right?
		Like I think, you know, the scripture talks about, you know, I'm a pastor.
		And so the scripture is a big part of my life.
		But the scripture talks about a man rejoicing in the wife of his youth, meaning that he married her young.
		And so I do think that there is, as far as it depends on us, there is a biblical impetus for men, not just women, but men to marry young.
		That said, I didn't ruin the entire economy in the entire country and make it where it's impossible for a man to actually provide for a family on a single income where he can't reasonably afford a home in his 50-year mortgage until he's like in his 40s.
		And even then, it's still questionable.
		So I didn't do that, but that's the world that we currently live in.
		And so I do think that there is something to be said for allowing for a man to, you know, get his ducks in a row.
		And so I think there is something with men maturing emotionally, spiritually, you know, these kinds of things a little bit slower than women.
		So there's a maturity factor.
		But then economically, being able to provide and protect for a household because of the way that we've structured our economy and our society, that now takes longer than ever.
		So I was just making a simple point in saying that men, if you can, yeah, man, get married at 22 and have kids and rejoice in the wife of your youth, but don't do it in such a way that you know that you're going to get married and have kids at 22 and they're going to starve to death.
		So there are, because of the mess that we've made, there are plenty of reasons why a man might need to get married a little bit later in life.
		But for a woman, that doesn't apply.
		And so I made this point of talking about the things that a man brings to the table, valuable assets, so to speak, not that they're the most valuable in the world, that the most valuable would be love for Jesus, character, virtue.
		But in a practical, temporal sense, a man is bringing leadership to the table.
		He's called to love his wife.
		Ephesians talks about this.
		So, love for his wife and that love primarily going through two avenues, practically speaking of protection and provision and the way that Christ provides and protects the church and loved her sacrificially, the church willing to lay down his life for her.
		And then the wife, you know, is this mutual love.
		She needs to love him too.
		That would be nice, but that's not actually the language the Bible uses.
		He loves.
		That doesn't mean she can't love or she shouldn't love, but the word particularly that's chosen for her is the word submission.
		And so I was talking about for a woman, she's bringing, right, for him to carry his name and building legacy, ultimately, not about his pride, but for the glory of God, posterity, right?
		Psalm 127, blessed is the man whose quiver is filled with children.
		Children are heritage from the Lord.
		So fertility, beauty, which the Bible clearly says, physical beauty, right?
		Charm is deceitful, beauty is fading, but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.
		So physical beauty gives way over time.
		That's just the way life works.
		A woman can, you know, she can demand that she is just as beautiful at 45 as 25, but she's wrong.
		She's wrong.
		And you don't have to be mean about it, but women should be aware.
		You are not as attractive at 45 as you were at 25.
		That's just not the way reality works.
		But a godly woman, that physical beauty, it fades, but it gives way to greater and greater inner beauty.
		So 1 Peter 3 talks about this, the inner person of the heart, but that inner beauty, even then, the Bible uses specific words.
		It's not just romance and erotic.
		And no, it says that the inner person of the heart, imperishable inner beauty, is a gentle and quiet spirit.
		Today we have all these three-piece suit, boss babe, you know, women who are even the conservative ones, even the conservative ones are in the arena in the public square and they're yelling at men and being, you know, using mocking, sarcastic, and all this.
		And they want to say, well, you do that sometimes.
		It's like, correct, I'm a man.
unidentified		Right.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		That's a double standard.
		Correct.
		Correct.
		Yeah.
		God called men and designed them for one thing, called women, designed, like honestly, having conservative women and throwing them in the arena to debate and use sarcasm and mockery and raise their voice with men.
		To call them conservative, it's an oxymoron.
		It's an oxymoron.
		So anyways, so I went, you know, viral for this because I said, you know, the things that a woman brings, and I wasn't saying these are eternal or ultimate, right?
		Her heart for the Lord would be ultimate.
		But I was saying in terms of the temporal and just practical, blatantly obvious assets that make her an eligible bassaret for marriage would all kind of have a short lifespan of fertility, physical beauty, and submission.
		And it's not saying that a woman can't continue to be respectful and have a gentle and quiet spirit as she ages, but a single woman who's, let's say she left the house, and I'm not saying that women should do this, but they do typically in our culture.
		If she leaves her father's headship at 18, gets married at 35, then you're looking at, you know, 17 years, if my math is right, of her being her own leader, independent, misindependent, you know, like pulling herself up by her bootstraps and probably building a lot of non-submissive, non-gentle, non-feminine attributes.
		And so I just was saying that.
		I was saying a woman, it behooves her, therefore, she is probably kind of at her peak value and most eligible as a bachelor when she's in her early 20s and a little less when she's in her early 30s and a lot less when she's in her early 40s and the internet lost its mind.
		And that's just this week, you know, but here's the thing.
		It wasn't like all these people, you know, just screaming leftists and progressives, you know, who hate God, hate Christ.
		No, it was Christian women of both sexes, but Christian women who purport to be conservative, losing their ever-loving mind.
		So why do I make people angry?
		Because I hold all the normative views that Christians and even non-Christians in America held approximately even just 80 years ago.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Or I'd say even less.
		You know, there's, yeah, there's so many things about what you just said, because I also wonder if it's if the Bible isn't admonishing men and women specifically on what it's difficult for men and women to do, right?
		It's difficult for women to be submissive.
		So that's what you admonish them to be.
		They don't have to be told to be loving because women typically, especially around.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		They're much more nurturing.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Much more nurturing.
		And that is a special thing that you want to preserve.
		And I think that gets lost in translation a lot because like the idea of a feminine woman is like a civilizational accomplishment.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		You know, women in the bush are not feminine.
		They're masculine.
		They're hunting.
		They're having to fight for their food or whatever.
		It's like, no, we want women elevated out of that where they can actually embody those feminine, more gentle and nurturing ideas.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Which is a great point.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Which is the goal for us to elevate to, but you have to have the understanding that that is an inappropriate mindset to take into the governmental sphere, take into the sphere of war.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		You don't want the gentle, nurturing mindset when it comes time for hardcore decisions.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		And that's where we are right now.
		Think about like all these judges that keep releasing, you know, career criminals.
		What an oxymoron.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		What does that even mean?
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Career criminal?
unidentified		That's insane.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I was going off about the term a homeless career criminal yesterday.
		It's like, what is that?
		Why does that exist?
		A career?
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		A career criminal.
		Believe it or not, I didn't think it was possible, but that makes less sense than even a career podcaster.
		Just to be fair, to hit ourselves a little bit as well.
		But I mean, there are some things you should not be able to have a career in, and career criminal is one of them.
		But who are the judges that continue to release them?
		Some of them are dudes, but disproportionately, like alarmingly so, it's female judges.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Why?
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Because a female judge looks at this guy who just did terrible things.
		I don't know what words we're allowed to use, but did terrible, you know, things to a woman.
		And he's an Asian guy.
		He's Pakistani.
		What kind of Asian are you?
		What kind of Asians?
		You know, he's a Muslim and he just did terrible things to an American woman.
		And he's got a female judge now.
		He's already been arrested 14 times.
		And her kind of innate thought is, if only he had had a good mom.
unidentified		Right.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		And that's like, I'm not even saying she's wrong.
		That's actually a good thought in its proper place, but its proper place is not behind the bench in a court of law.
		Instead, you want, that's a feminine thought.
		And feminine thoughts are great in their context.
		But in that context, law, criminals, you need a masculine thought.
		The masculine thought is short rope, tall tree.
unidentified		Yeah.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		No, literally.
		And that's, and to me, it's about a lack of humility and understanding that, where it's like, you would think, and I've met women that are like this, that are like, you know, if it was, I was talking to a friend, they're like, I was talking about homeless people outside of my house.
		This was 20 years ago, maybe or something.
		And the girl was like, you know, I'd probably give them sandwiches, which is why I shouldn't be involved.
		You know, it's like, you have to understand.
		You have to go, I'm a very nurturing and caring person.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Which is awesome.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I need to be excused from these decisions because I understand that that's not the right mindset to take care.
		And I think it's a lack of humility in a lot of cases, or it's that just misplaced instinct, which again is the instinct is a good thing.
		You are literally programmed, literally programmed to take care of children.
		That is what women are programmed to do.
		And men are not programmed to do that.
		And I see it in myself.
		I see it with my friends who have young kids.
		It's like, for me, when my kid does something wrong, like a flip, a switch flips in my head where I'm like angry.
		And I'm like, you have to take over now because I'm going to be really mad.
		And I shouldn't, I even know I shouldn't be that mad, but I don't have that internal patience that I ascribe to, you know, that my wife has because of her, you know, feminine aspect.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's a wonderful feminine role, a lady of the hearth, you know, would be some of the old language.
		But, but notice, like the lady of the hearth is the hearth is domestic, it's in the home.
		The hearth is not in the public square.
		That's not the hearth that's being spoken of.
		She's her role is it's and her whole orientation is homeward.
		She is concerned about her husband, concerned about her children, whereas the man is looking at the horizon.
		He's looking outward.
		He's thinking about the mission, you know, like, so he's oriented outward.
		Like, what hill can I take?
		You know, what, what dragon can I slay?
		How can I provide?
		Whereas, you know, the man builds a house, the woman makes it a home.
		This is how Western society functioned for a very, very long time.
		And now we don't.
		And so I think part of the reason that politics is hard and cultural commentary and all these things are hard is because half of the people who are a part of it, this public conversation, really need to bake a pie.
		That was another thing I went by.
		They need to be making a pie, you know?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Get your emotions out through the pie.
		It's actually the most healthy way to do it.
		But, you know, the reason it's important for you to talk like this and to explain this is because of the countervailing message that the vast majority of people are receiving on a continual basis from entertainment and education.
		It's not even necessarily saying that this is the way that every woman needs to be.
		There are obviously going to be women that don't fit in a certain mold, or there are going to be women that are extremely capable of running a corporation.
		Like they're out there, it exists, but they're extremely rare.
		And it's not the message that you want women as a whole, as a population in your country to be pursuing because it's incongruous with their nature.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		And that sadly, that's what we've done across the board, not just with women.
		We could apply this to every single category.
		What we have done in a nutshell is we have made the exception the norm and we've made the norm the exception.
		We've taken the footnote and made it the headline and made the headline the footnote.
		And so, yes, there are rare exceptions with women in terms of innate giftings and those kinds of things.
		For instance, one would be like, you know, biblically speaking, Proverbs 31, right?
		This woman is sharp, right?
		And she's capable of a lot more than just making pies.
		But people, even that, they take license with the biblical text and they're like, well, she, you know, she's an investor.
		She purchases a field.
		And it's like, and again, like the duck meme is like, whose money did she use to purchase her husband's.
		So she's a manager of the home and she's managing more than just, you know, making breakfast.
		She's managing a lot.
		There are servants in this case.
		That upsets people.
		They're slaves.
		You know, I think a biblically permissible form of slavery.
		But she has the children.
		She also has servants who are working as a part of the household and she's overseeing all this as a manager.
		But the husband still stands above her as the owner.
		And he's in the city gates.
		He's influencing the whole village and he's leading and in a capacity public, public facing.
		So she may be purchasing a field, right?
		And yeah, you can get cute with that.
		So she's a real estate tycoon, you know, like that.
		That's probably a little bit of exaggeration.
		But yes, there is a high degree of competency, no doubt.
		But in that, it's still, she's managing his estate, his estate.
		Even when you look at the 10th commandment in Exodus chapter 20, do not covet.
		It's funny that this upsets people, but it's all in the masculine vernacular.
		You shall not covet his wife or his, you know, his son, his daughter, his house, his male servant, his female servant, his livestock, his ox or his donkey, but it's all his, And so, yes, there are women who are exceedingly gifted.
		But even in those instances, to make them completely independent, I don't think has served society well at all.
		But that's just a female.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And that's sort of the key thing.
		Again, I think people take this on an individual level and they feel personally insulted if they don't fit in the mold that you're describing.
		But the problem is that our society itself is so out of whack that women are sort of forced to take on these roles out of necessity.
		As you were talking about, the used to be one father would have a job and the mom could manage the business.
		That's just not reality anymore.
		We want to get back to that point, but we're so askew.
		And a lot of what the way I'm interpreting what you're saying, at least, is this sort of generalized, this is the ideal.
		This is what we want to pursue.
		This is how we want to design our society to uphold these types of relationships, these types of individuals or whatever.
		But then people take it individually and they go, well, I'm a woman who's powerful.
		So you think I shouldn't exist or you think I didn't make it myself.
		And it's like, we're talking about the ideal, how families should be.
		Because look, running a home, it should literally be a full-time job.
		And it is.
		And it's why so many people are miserable.
		It's why so many marriages fail because the husband's coming home and having to do the dishes on top of doing the work.
		We're just out of whack.
		We're not fit for our function anymore.
		And it's because the function's wrong, not us.
		And I was thinking of a, there's a book by Arthur Conan Doyle called The White Company in medieval times.
		And he has these great scenes where he has a king leading an army on the battlefield.
		And then the next chapter is his wife preparing the feast at home and she's deploying her troops and ordering how things are delivered.
		And the lines must be maintained.
		And this was written hundreds of years ago, but it was reflective of what you're saying, where it's like, no, these are the two different roles.
		They can be similar kind of, but they have different places.
		And that's how our society works.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of similar qualities of like intellect, competency, organization, strategy, but in two separate realms.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Two separate realms.
		But it's what you're saying, I agree with.
		And it's, again, it's back to that exception, replacing the norm and vice versa.
		Have you seen like it's become a stereotype at this point?
		And because it proves to be true most of the time, but people say, you know, the average woman is five foot four.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		But I'm taller than that.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		And the woman responds, but I'm five foot seven, you know, or whatever.
		And it's like, yeah, the average woman is, and, but that's, that's all we ever, you know, like, like somebody, you know, the big hullabaloo, at least in my ex fee the last couple of days has been related to that clip that went semi-viral in fertility.
		And it's like, well, I had, you know, I had three children in, you know, from age 38 to 45.
		It's like, okay, but can you see how ordinarily, on average, that usually doesn't happen?
		Right.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And it's not ideal.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Even if it does, it's not ideal.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		It's not ideal.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		If you're 40 years old, it's considered a geriatric pet pregnancy by medical science.
		Like it's not, it's not an opinion.
		It's literally less safe to get pregnant that late.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		So one, you're less fertile and you just might not get pregnant.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Number two, even if you do, much higher statistical likelihood of miscarriages or defects or certain healthy.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I mean, even once the kid is born, I mean, I had my first kid at, I guess, would have been 31.
		And even then, I'm like, man, I wish I'd had him 10 years earlier because he's got a lot of energy.
		And even in my mid-30s, I'm like slowing down to the point where I'm like, man, if I was 10 years younger, I'd be able to keep up with this kid a lot more.
		I mean, and then you do that generation after generation and these negative consequences compound, obviously.
		We're about to go to a commercial break and we haven't even gotten into the juice.
		This is ridiculous.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, can I say, I know we got to go to a commercial break, but I'm so glad you brought that up because this is my concern that I started at the top of the segment: I'm concerned people are going to walk away and they're only going to hate me for being sexist.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		There's so much more to hate.
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		Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
		I don't know if this is the appropriate mood for the music.
		This is so relaxing.
		We're trying to get fired up here.
		We're fighting a war for humanity's existence on all fronts.
		I'm here in studio with Joel Webbin, Pastor Joel Webbin, I should say.
		He's the president and founder of Wright Response Ministries and the senior pastor of Covenant Church Bible Church, located in the north side of Austin, Texas.
		You can follow him on X at Wright Response M or on YouTube at Wright Response Ministries and Wright Response Ministries.com is the website.
		And we've been talking a lot about there's a relationship between men and women.
		And it's interesting that you're so involved because I see you all the time.
		And we start off this by saying, you know, a lot of times it's people not very happy with what you're saying.
unidentified		Yeah.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		But you're everywhere on X in the political sphere, but you're not a political guy necessarily.
		I don't see political takes from you.
		You're a pastor, right?
		I mean, so how did you find yourself in this milieu here?
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I mean, I guess the easiest way to say it is what got me here was honestly wanting to be a good pastor.
		And a big part of it, it's not all of it.
		There's other things involved, but a big part of that being a good preacher and wanting to be a faithful preacher.
		And the simplest, most concise way I could say it is I basically came to the conviction that there are three main components of faithful Christian preaching and what I'd like to see America's churches embody from their ministers on the Lord's Day on Sunday.
		And so the three components of a faithful sermon would be revelation, interpretation, application.
		Revelation, not I have a dream, you know, not a guy standing in the pulpit.
		I've got, you know, a 17-step plan.
		No, I have a text.
		The revelation is the revelation of God.
		So the Bible.
		So I actually have a text.
		It's not just topical.
		It's not just the latest idea, but it's no, today open your Bibles to this book, to this chapter, to this verse, and you're actually reading a revelation from God.
		So revelation, second, interpretation.
		What is the meaning of that text?
		And most importantly, not what does it mean to me, but what does God mean by it?
		So a faithful exegesis of the text, not just esegesis, reading in your own thoughts and preferences and opinions, but exegesis.
		Here's the text, Revelation.
		Here's the interpretation.
		Reading out of it, this is God's meaning.
		But the last part is where, I mean, the first two we're missing in a lot of churches too, but the last part, the third part, especially is missing in the American church, which is revelation, interpretation, application.
		How then shall we live?
		If this is a revelation from God and not merely man, it's the word of God, living, breathing, active.
		And this is actually the interpretation of what God means by this and what the church traditionally has held for 2,000 years.
		This is church history and tradition and the saints co-discerning over the centuries the meaning of the text.
		Okay, well, then what is the application then?
		How should we live?
		And this is what got me.
		As I thought about that more, I realized, okay, there may only be one true interpretation of what God means.
		And obviously, Protestants and Catholics, we all disagree on various things, but I think we would admit we're not relativists.
		Somebody's right, somebody's wrong.
		You know, you could both be wrong, but you both can't be right.
		Well, that's in the realm of interpretation, the meaning.
		What does God mean?
		But in the realm of application, you can actually, it's not just one faithful application.
		There are virtually limitless applications of any given text in the scripture that are not at odds with one another.
		They're not contradicting one another.
		In light of this text, in light of the meaning of this text, here's the application as a father, as a husband, in business, in this realm, in that realm.
		But then, as I started thinking about it more, I was like, is there a faithful Christian application of the Bible in the realm of politics?
		And I feel like what Christians have done over recent decades is we've just surrendered the civil realm, the state, government, all these things to, you know, we've just kind of assumed that that realm was neutral.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		We've abdicated.
randy fine ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Our position.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Absolutely.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It's what it's probably my biggest frustration with the American church right now is their willful abandonment of the ramparts in that regard.
		And I always, I told this story many times, but at one point in 2020, I think it was, my dad was talking to the preacher in his church in Houston and is going, you know, there's all these Democrats running around.
		They're going to let out all these criminals.
		This is when, you know, the bail reform was the big thing.
		And he's like, you know, maybe, maybe instead of hearing about a letter to the Corinthians from 2,000 years ago for the hundredth time, maybe you can relate that to what's going on here and now and tell people about like the consequences of immoral behavior.
		And I can't remember exactly how he phrased it, but it was basically just something like, that's not our, that's not our role.
		That's not our position.
		We aren't supposed to talk about what's happening right now.
		And it's like, then why are you even talking about it?
		Like, yeah, it's, you know, you're supposed to take those messages to the churches 2,000 years ago and then apply them to yourself today.
		And the church is such a powerful force in America.
		It seems like the only place it's ever utilized politically is in support of Israel, which is like so off the mark.
		And so many are like that.
unidentified		So many.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		So many ways.
		No, I love what you said, though.
		Like that little part right there when you said, can you take that letter written 2,000 years ago to a church on the other side of the world, Corinth, but relate that?
		Because that's the ticket is no, the Bible is living and breathing.
		So you actually do need that letter 2,000 years ago written to the Corinthians church.
		You will never not need it.
		It's the word of God.
		You do need it, but you need it applied.
		So you don't need a new revelation, right?
		It's the same revelation.
		It's the same old book.
		Give me that old time religion.
		Give me the Bible.
		I want Bible.
		So the revelation remains the same, but it's apple, and the interpretation remains the same.
		But the application will vary and shift over time, given this place, this time, this culture, this people.
		If I was preaching, you know, if I was preaching Uganda, I would apply the scripture differently in that context.
		But right now, we're preaching in America.
		When I look at big headline things that are going on economically, politically, all those kinds of things, that's what got me into politics.
		And I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I just realized it wasn't like, oh, well, I'm tired of being a pastor.
		I want to be a political pundit instead.
		No, it was like, if I'm going to actually be a faithful pastor, I think I've got to at least have a basic working understanding of the political realm so that I can, because I have people in my church who are in politics.
		So how am I going to, now that's not, you can take that too far and all of a sudden say, well, the pastor is an expert in everything.
		He's not.
		He's not.
		And some pastors think they are.
		So there's some pastors who are abdicating.
		They're saying, well, you know, politics, that's a neutral realm.
		You know, it's like Mufasa was standing on a pride rock.
		It's like, what's that dark shadowy place over there?
		That's politics.
		We must never go there.
		Everything the light touches, you know, which is just another marriage conference, another marriage conference, and that's the only thing that the Bible ever speaks to.
		But that's not true.
		So pastors should be willing to apply the scripture to every realm of human life.
		At the same time, though, they don't need to pretend expertise in every single area.
		It's like the, you know, the old commercial.
		It's like the guy shows up as like a neurosurgeon.
		It's like, where's the doctor?
		And he shows up and he's like, who are you?
		You're not the doctor.
		And he's like, I'm ready for this.
		Perform brain surgery.
		And it's like, do you have credentials?
		Are you even PhD?
		He's like, no, but I did stay in a holiday inn last night.
		And a lot of pastors act like that too.
		It's like, well, but I am a pastor and therefore I'm an expert on geopolitics and this.
		So I think there's two ditches to avoid.
		One, the pastor who wants his hand in everything and pretends to be an expert and he's not.
		But on mass scale, I think maybe that's 10% of the problem.
		90% of pastors in America are on the other side, in the other ditch on the other side of the road, which is they've abdicated all involvement in every single realm except for the church and maybe the family.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And even that is kind of tenuous.
		I mean, I guess it depends on which church you go to, but a lot of pastors will refuse to condemn any sort of family form or now, which is absurd because you can't have two men and a woman all being a part of the same marriage, obviously.
		But church is going along with that.
		And I can't tell you how many churches I've seen with the rainbow flags, especially here in Austin.
		It's kind of sickening, actually, which is why, I mean, that's got to be why the Orthodox Church is having such a revival right now.
		I know that the Catholic Church is even doing a little bit better because the American churches, the Protestant churches, cannot help themselves.
		They will change with the times.
		And that's not what people are looking for.
		They're looking for that old-time religion.
		What is the point of it if you're not going back to then?
		Can you talk a little bit more about that, about that phenomenon?
		I know the New York Times has just written me.
		And now the knives are coming out, right?
		Now it's, oh, Orthodox, Orthodox is growing.
		That's dangerous, and we need to stop it.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Yeah.
		So Eastern Orthodoxy.
		I want to be careful for two reasons.
		One, because I do want to be as charitable as possible.
		I really do.
		Because I'd much rather people be Eastern Orthodox than Muslim, Jewish, religiously practicing Hindu, whatever, atheist.
		So I do want to be appreciative.
		At the same time, I have my convictions and I can't compromise.
		I need to stand by them.
		I think the rise of Eastern Orthodoxy in particular, because it's similar to Catholicism in the sense that both claim we're the one true church and we're really, really old and all those kinds of things.
		But there are some differences and not just the theological differences, but kind of the vibe.
		EO is more, I would argue, is more of an emphasis, masculine emphasis than Catholicism.
		I mean, you look at some of these Eastern Orthodox priests and they're like barrel-chested.
		They have beards down.
		Yeah, beard down to their belt.
		They're like, they're not limp-wristed.
		They're not effeminate.
		They're not soft.
		They're men.
		And so I think that's a big part of the appeal right now is because in the West, America, but also European nations in the West, there is just a desperate, desperate need for masculinity because we've basically banned masculine.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It's been deliberately eradicated from our public culture.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		So that's a big part of it.
		I think the masculinity.
		But, you know, at the same time, one of my friends, he's a Catholic and good guy, Timothy Gordon.
		And he said, when he thinks of EO, he's Catholic.
		He says, it's kind of like he calls it the Mr. Miyagi complex, Eastern Orthodoxy.
		So Mr. Miyagi, you think the karate kid, and it's, you know, you got this little white kid, you know, American boy, and dad is kind of absent.
		He's missing a father figure.
		But there's, you know, thanks to globalism, even way back then when the, you know, the first karate kid came out, you got an older Asian man.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's in America.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It's got a sort of esoteric feeling to it.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		And this Asian guy is, he's willing to play the father role, right?
		Wax on, wax off, you know, and so he's like, he's coming in and he's kind of filling that father void, the father hunger that's there.
		And you look at America today and anything that, you know, all that that was true at the time of the first karate kid being made is just exponentially more true today in the year of our Lord 2025.
		So yeah, you've got a lot of young white boys, some of them.
		And I mean, I don't mean that in the degrading way, like calling a 25-year-old guy a boy.
		I mean, actual boys, like they're 12, they're 13, they're 14.
		And then, you know, young white men, 20, 25.
		And in either case, they're like, yeah, I either didn't have a dad, you know, or he was literally absent or emotionally absent.
		Or even if he was there, he was soft, he was feminine.
		And then they see there's this old tried religion, Eastern Orthodoxy, and all the leaders are like dudes.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		They're dudes.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		It's a Mr. Miyagi kind of thing.
		And it's Eastern and it's mystical.
		There's a wonder.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		If it feels more full than, and again, you just, you know, not to rag on an American church.
		I mean, I'm an Anglican, so I'm not, you know, I'm not even a, I'm not Eastern Orthodox, but it's like you go into some of these American churches and it's just, it's guitar.
		And it's just like, no, where's the incense?
		Where's the crazy robes?
		There's something to that that strikes you.
		And even as a, you know, I remember going to a wedding with my son when he was like one years old.
		And when they walk in, it was a very Christian wedding.
		It was Episcopalian, actually, but they still had the robes and everything.
		When they walk in holding the cross, and my son's just like, what is this?
		What is happening?
		Like, so we've got the ceremony and the sort of pomp here and circumstance.
unidentified		Yeah.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		But no, there is something.
		You look at the scripture and there's certainly something to be said for types and shadows, the symbols that speak to a higher truth.
		Now, the danger in that, I'm a Protestant, you know, so sue me, you know, I'm a Protestant, so here it comes.
		You know, but there is a danger in where all of a sudden the form and the shadow begin to be, or at least the temptation flirting with that becoming the object of your worship rather than serving as a physical sign that's pointing you towards the higher substance, the higher reality.
		And so, you know, I'll sometimes tease, you know, I'm going to do it.
		I'm going to do it.
		Here's the other thing about Eastern Orthodoxy.
		You think me and you are online?
		Those dudes are terminally online.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		There are a lot of terminology online.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Dude, they are online.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		No, I've never seen.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		You know, the interdenominational stuff can get pretty contentious.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		We want to avoid it.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to be kind.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be kind.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe we should move on to something.
		Maybe let's talk about Jews and Christianity.
		Maybe that's a little bit of a trendy thing.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		All I was going to say with the Eastern Orthodox thing is I was going to say that there is kind of, it is Eastern.
		So right now it's growing.
		It's growing leaps and bounds.
		But still, if you look on the whole, America historically is a Protestant nation.
		I agree.
		Right now, currently, Catholicism is growing significantly and rivaling Protestantism in America.
		I don't, and I'm not saying this in a mean spirited way, but I don't think that Eastern Orthodoxy will ever win out in a Western context precisely because it's Eastern.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I grew up Anglican, so it's just my tradition.
		And I'm the same way.
		It's like, no, this is a Protestant country.
		You cannot like that.
		You can want it to be a Catholic or Eastern Orthodox, but it's just not.
		So, you know, it's just the culture, our culture is born from Protestantism.
		So there is a disconnect there when you talk about Eastern Orthodoxy or Catholicism.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		That's all I was going to say.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I know.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I was just joking because I do, we don't have too much time left.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Sportscaster, the bulls, the bears.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		So now it's like the Jews.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		We're getting into the Jews here.
		No, but there is this weird, now it's unavoidable.
		There's the political and the religious colliding here with Israel and the state of Israel and the Jewish diaspora.
		And it makes everything confusing and difficult to discuss and difficult to even like wrap your hand around trying to figure out what's motivating people.
		And obviously, this is a large part of your coverage.
		You just came out with a video.
		Can you tell us about the video that you just published earlier today?
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		So it was something that I wrote like a while back trying to explain my position because everyone was like, you're an anti-Semite.
		And so I was like, no, no, no, no.
		You know, like, let me clarify.
		And I wrote it and everyone was like, that's worse.
		You are for sure an anti-Semite.
		And I was like, well, I mean, I would not self-describe as an anti-Semite.
		I don't think I'm anti-Semitic.
		I don't hate all Jews and I don't want to harm them or hurt them or anything like that.
		But, you know, it depends who you're asking.
		If you're asking the ADL or sadly, the ADL or your typical Protestant Zionist pastor, who honestly probably could get a job with the ADL, then, yeah, then sure, by their standard, I'm an anti-Semite.
		So I did it a couple of months ago, but I decided, you know what, I should actually record this.
		It was just in writing.
		And so I should record it.
		So I did that this morning.
		And what I was trying to help people see is, and I think this is part of what Nick Fuentes gets at.
		So in his interview with Tucker Carlson, you know, that pretty much everybody in the world watched.
		You know, when I looked at it, it was like 5.9 million views.
		And I was like, that's a Tucker cost denial.
		5.9 million.
		No, it has to be at least.
		It's going to be at least 6 million views.
		That interview got.
		I know.
		It's bigoted.
		And, you know, so anyways, but everybody watched it.
		And so, you know, one of the things that Nick was trying to get at for a moment, and I feel like Tucker kind of missed because Tucker was like, you know, he was giving his bona fides and, you know, and kind of, and I like Tucker Carlson.
		So I'm not against, you know, I'm not saying Tucker's bad.
		But Tucker was kind of, you know, giving the disclaimers of like, I don't hate Jewish people.
		And one of the disclaimers he gave is, he's like, it's not blood guilt.
		I believe, you know, individualism and blah, blah, which kind of makes sense with Tucker's, you know, his generation and, you know, being American, being a little bit older.
		And I think this is the theological category blur error.
		So if we're talking about true moral culpability, guilt, God's justice, eternal justice, everybody's going to stand before God on the final day and they're going to stand before him alone.
		They will not be able to say, well, my parents were really good.
		And so I'm a, you know, I'm grandfathered in, you know, or if your parents, God forbid, were, were terrible, you know, and your dad was abusive and beat you and your mom was a raging feminist, you know, and abandoned the family to be a boss babe and all these kinds of things.
		But you love Jesus.
		Well, then you're in.
		You know what I mean?
		You have faith in Jesus.
		You trust in Jesus.
		So that's individual.
		The final judgment, true ultimate justice is on an individual basis.
		And so in that sense, no, there's no blood guilt that the children are just inherently guilty because of something their parents did.
		That said, Tucker's right.
		It's not blood guilt, but that's not what Nick was saying.
		Nick wasn't, that's not the argument he was making.
		What he was saying, though, is that we're not as individual as we Westerners like to think.
		The apple, turns out, does not always fall so far from the tree, not in terms of guilt, moral culpability, but in terms of characteristics, in terms of inclinations, in terms of disposition.
		There are, we are shaped.
		I can't just sever myself from all my ancestry and all my fathers.
		I have been shaped by a particular people with particular providence and circumstances over centuries and centuries and centuries.
		And for me to think that I'm going to just come into adulthood and independently make all these decisions in a vacuum without any bias, without any inclination one way or the other is really its arrogance.
		So that being said, if I'm talking about Europeans, I would say Europeans have certain besetting sins.
		Right now, I would say one of them, those of European descent, would be toxic suicidal empathy, moral apathy.
		I think there's a few different things that we could point to and say, cowardice, cowardice.
		Europeans, modern Europeans today, we've been shaped in such a way, we have become cowards.
		And I don't think it's in a vacuum.
		I don't think it's just a coincidence.
		I think it's because we fought two world wars.
		We never again kind of mentality.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, you know, like, because it's not, we came home.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		We came home.
		The greatest generation came home and said, yeah, we would like to avoid conflict for a very good reason.
		For a good reason.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And build a safe and prosperous society.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		But you and me, who weren't alive for that, we're still shaped by that.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Well, and that was when the propaganda was important because it's not strictly a genetic thing.
		Genetics obviously have an effect on it.
		And of course, the way that the people that rule the world and the people that pull the strings think about this stuff, it's not, oh, you know, white people are bad, black people are good.
		It's okay, black people should be targeted with the crack cocaine in LA and the white people will be targeted with the opioids in Appalachia.
		It's just different strategies because they have different proclivities and inclinations.
		So there's a difference.
		It's not a judgment value difference, but it's so part of it's genetic.
		But then it's the propaganda that we're faced with.
		And the Jews are probably the biggest recipients of or victims of, you could put it, where, you know, there are interviews with famous actresses who are like at four years old, I would sleep out on the floor outside of my parents' room because I thought they would be taken away in the middle of the night because she'd been told stories about the Holocaust when she was like barely conscious.
		And it's like that, to me, that's evil.
		I think that's evil to subject a child to that.
		And it shapes their mind for the rest of their lives.
		Constantly.
		And that is a psychological operation that's focused on Jews that's not focused as much on us, but we get a different form of it.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		So let me say one final thing.
		So I agree with everything you just said.
		But people, not just individuals, but peoples, right?
		Collective peoples, race, nations, are shaped by way of providence slowly over time.
		I'm not a racial determinist.
		I actually think that the debt can be shuffled in the providence of God, albeit slowly.
		You can't just take a bunch of Haitians and say, hey, they're going to be Protestant American Christians, you know, in the next 15 weeks.
		That's right.
		That's not going to happen.
		But my point is this: in America, Jewish people will be like, well, what do you mean by Jew, ethnically or religiously?
		Because a lot of Jews, it's only 20% that actually are Orthodox Jews and practicing religiously.
		And I'm aware of that.
		It's like, okay, I'm aware.
		Yeah, but there's a ton of Americans that don't even make a profession to be Christian, have not darkened the door of a chapel of a church in their entire lives, you know?
		And yet we all admit that America is not just, oh, we're saying America is a Christian nation because each and every individual American is a Christian, born again, truly, regenerate.
		No, we're saying it's a Christian nation because everyone, even the atheists in America, have been shaped by the Christian tradition, the Christian values, Christian thought, way of thinking.
		Okay, so now let's look at the Jews for a second.
		I'm not saying they all practice Judaism, Talmudic Judaism, that is very much antichrist, but that is the national religion.
		They have been shaped.
		Most Jews are secular.
		Even that's not a coincidence.
		They have been shaped by Judaism and Judaism, perhaps more than any other false religion.
		Islam will send you to hell.
		Hinduism will send you to hell.
		Judaism will send you to hell, also.
		But it is unique in the sense that Islam recognizes Christ as a prophet.
		He's worthy of some degree of esteem.
		Hinduism has a place for Christ.
		Judaism also has a place for Christ, the place being hell.
		And so you're talking about a people, whether they practice or not.
		Still, the culture over centuries has been shaped by a religion that has fully rejected the Logos.
		Christ is in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, and the Word took on flesh and dwelt among us.
		That's the Gospel of John, chapter one.
		So Christ, the living word, the Logos, the logic, the reason, has been rejected by a people religiously.
		And then that's shaped culturally with all of them, whether they practice the religion or not.
		They're going to be, I think, uniquely resistant towards natural order, some distinction.
		And there's a flattening kind of egalitarianism tends to be the goal.
		And so recognizing that people, Europeans have been shaped, Africans have been shaped, Jews have been shaped, and recognizing this.
		And I think that's what like your Nick Fuentes is trying to get at.
		And Tucker didn't really let it happen, but I think he's trying to hit that element.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And there's a civilizational impetus to not talk about that ever.
		So it's hard to even get over that.
		And if you can't talk about this, how are we going to solve the problems that we deal with when there's incongruities?
		We'll be right back.
		Don't go anywhere.
		Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
		Joel Webbin is my guest.
		We're talking about our survival as a species, more or less.
		You can follow him on X at right to response him, rightresponse Ministries, and rightresponseministries.com.
		He was only supposed to do the hour with us, but I felt like we had five more minutes in us, especially since we have really just touched on this topic, which is really the biggest topic in the world and has been for a long time.
		I guess it depends on how you interpret that.
		But for at least the last year, obviously Israel has dominated headlines continuously.
		And it's extremely difficult to talk about, especially when there are these guardrails that if you, you know, they're third rails, that if you say something wrong, you're the worst person ever and are going to be shot in the neck.
		You know, we got to talk about it.
unidentified		So true, King.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's, you know, it's one of the things that like, even like starting to work at Infowars, like I would find myself like unwilling to say things, unwilling to express certain things.
		And I had to like tell myself, like, all right, if this was Muslims, would I pause?
		If I was sitting here going, hey, the Muslims did this, it doesn't, it doesn't hit the tripwire in my head that goes, oh, don't say that.
		And so I go, that's been implanted into me.
		And, you know, if what I'm saying is true and if it comes from a place of love, why shouldn't I say it?
		Right.
		So I'm willing to say it.
		I'm willing to say Christians are this, Muslims are this, but I won't say Jews are this.
		That's me.
		I need to get over that.
		And so, you know, it's, but every, you know, 99% of people are still in this, I think, fabricated, you know, playground framework where certain things are forbidden and certain things aren't.
		And it's very frustrating.
		We have to get over that and be able to talk about this honestly and in a forthright fashion, because obviously there's tension that's getting to a breaking point.
		What's your take on that?
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		I completely agree.
		You know, I was telling you during the last commercial break that America at this point is, you know, it's not a nation anymore.
		It's a group of, if you go with the historical definition of a nation, it's many nations, right?
		You've got the Somalian nation in America, right?
		You've got, you know, this nation, that nation, you know, Haitian nation, and, you know, Pakistani nation.
		And here's the thing about every minority group in America.
		They all have their own group, the group that they're a part of, their identity, as their in-group preference.
		And what we were talking about is that's not, like, to be fair, here's some of the nuance.
		That's not inherently sinister or malicious or morally wrong.
		It's not.
		And that's, and that's kind of like, you know, like when Nick was on Candace, you know, she was like, well, you, you called Dave Smith, you were like, Jew, and, you know, and he was, you know, he was like, that doesn't mean I don't like Dave Smith.
		It doesn't mean he's a bad guy.
		I think Dave Smith is cool.
		I've listened to some of his stuff.
		I think he's insightful.
		He's funny.
		He seems like a great guy, actually.
		But is it crazy to think that a Jewish person, even if they're not a citizen of Israel, they're here, they've only been here.
		Maybe they never even visited Israel, that they would have some kind of inclination, some kind of affection for Israel that we weren't have because it's the one place that they can go.
		So, all that being said, what we were building up to when we were talking offline was those of European descent, WASP, whatever you want to call it, kind of the backbone, 59% of America, kind of founding American stock, white Americans.
		We're the only group that has labeled itself as its own outgroup.
		Every other group, Somalians in America, they care about Somalia.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And isn't it.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		We're the only ones who are literally, we care about everyone more than ourselves.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And isn't that even like it's so much crazier?
		Like, I'm not a racist, but it makes sense to me, like, okay, you're a black person, you like black people more than white people.
		That, okay, that aligns.
		But the fact that we have the majority of white people in America actually hate white people.
		They really are so demented about that.
		It's self-hatred.
		It's so demented with any group to have that level of self-hatred.
		And it's sick.
		And it's been deliberate.
		I think it's been deliberately fostered in us because it was white people and white culture that brought about individual freedom, democracy itself, like all of these, all of these wonderful things that protect us from domination, protect us from slavery in a real sense, came out of white Christian culture.
		They want to demonize that in order to demonize the things the founding fathers wrote and stuff like that.
		I mean, it's racial, but it's political, and it needs to be religious.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		It's racial, it's national, it's political, it's cultural, and it also is very much religious.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		It is a hatred of white people, but also a hatred of Christianity.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		And the fruits of those things.
		Man, we could go on for hours.
		We should.
		We need to do this.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		This has been fantastic.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		I've got a new book coming out about Israel, The Hyphenated Heresy.
joel webbon ▲ ● ▼		Maybe in January, you'll have me back on.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Joel Webbin at Right Response In.
		We'd love to have you on again.
		Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
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		I'm your host, Harrison Smith.
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		With that, we'll continue our coverage of just America itself collapsing into madness.
		And entirely, I want to make this point perfectly clear.
		This is happening entirely because of the failure of the Republican Party to uphold the wishes of its constituents.
		Looking at it on a bird's eye view, that's what's the problem here.
		The American people want the right policies.
		They're not getting it.
		We vote for Republicans and they fail.
		You want to talk about why Republicans are failing right now.
		It's not because everybody's turning socialists.
		It's not because everybody has a, you know, sincere policy disagreement with the way the Republicans are running things.
		It's because they don't represent what Republicans are supposed to represent.
		They're not conservative.
		They bend on everything.
		They're weak.
		Hell, it goes back to the conversation Joel and I were just having.
		Why are people going to the Orthodox Church?
		Because it's stalwart, because it's strong, because it's masculine, because it doesn't bend with the wind, because it doesn't make little caveats because people that hate them are angry.
		Like it just says, this is the way it is.
		It's the way it is.
		You want to accept us?
		We'll welcome you.
		If you don't, you can leave.
		That's how America needs to be.
		That's how the Republican Party needs to be.
		And the Republican Party will learn this lesson one way or the other.
		It's up to them.
		They can either come along with us.
		They can support what we want.
		They can give us what we want.
	They can do the things that we vote for and we'll be happy to vote them back into office again.
	Or they can resist and they can go down in flames and bring the rest of the country with them.
	That's their choice.
	But this is happening whether they like it or not.
	And I've got evidence to show you as such.
	Things like this.
	Trump is underwater with 18 to 29-year-old voters showing a 48-point swing from a plus nine approval rating in February to minus 39 approval rating in December.
	48-point swing in less than a year.
	And every single comment on this thread, and there's actually another one because it's actually gotten worse as of today.
	Rasmussen, friend of the show, Mark, said it's actually hit an all-time record low of negative 12 according to his polls.
	I think it was Republicans overall, may have been Trump himself.
	And, you know, he asked the question on X, why is this?
	What is happening?
	And every single response is too much attention to Israel, not enough to America.
	Just the way it is.
	You can get mad at me for talking about Israel so much, but until we stop serving them endlessly, it's going to be the problem.
	It's a problem.
	It's a major problem.
	We can't get what we want.
	We can't even get the people into office to do the things that we want because of the suicidal activities of the Republicans doing whatever the hell Israel wants forever.
	It's just baffling, baffling.
	But it's not just Israel.
	Don't misunderstand me.
	I'm not saying that Israel itself is the sole reason why the Republicans are going down.
	It's implementic.
	It is a major concern.
	But really, it's just in line with the rest of the Republicans' difficulty in understanding our very simple instructions when we send them to Washington.
	Something gets, it gets confused every time, gets a little bit confused.
	See, we say, we want you to end the H-1B visa program.
	And they say, we hear you, we got you.
	We send them to DC and they go, we did it.
	We are taxing the H-1B program.
	And we go, no, no, no, no.
	We said eliminate.
	And they go, sure, yep, we gotcha.
	We are drastically reducing the H-1B program.
	We go, no, we want an end to the H-1B program.
	And they go, we understand completely.
	We are looking at plans to end H-1B visas.
	And we say, okay, good.
	They're looking at plans.
	And then it never happens.
	Every time, this is the way it goes.
	We want mass deportations.
	They're like, yes, absolutely.
	100%.
	They're like, we are definitely going to reform the intake program.
	We're like, no, my God.
	I mean, just over and over and over again.
	This is why you're failing, Republicans.
	Are you listening to me?
	Donald Trump, are you listening to me?
	Byron Daniels.
	Byron Daniels is a great guy.
	He's actually one of my favorite people in politics.
	Honestly, if I had to list the top 10, Byron Daniels is probably going to be in that top 10.
	He has been a very stalwart MAGA champion from Florida, and he's running for governor.
	And he has the full institutional backing of the Republican Party.
	He has the backing of Donald Trump.
	He is a black guy.
	He's got the minority aspect to his character.
	He's got, on paper, he should be a shoe-in.
	He is actually losing in the governor race in polls to another Republican named Fishback.
	Okay, Byron Daniels.
	I mean, again, on paper, like the national name recognition, the notoriety, the years of evidence to point to people and go, look, I've been a stalwart defender of you.
	He has absolutely everything that should make him a shoe-in, a sure thing for the Republicans.
	He now is behind Fishback 43 to 29.
	Donald's at 29, Fishback at 43.
	Why is that?
	What's happening here?
	What is it that can be so powerful that this guy that frankly nobody's ever heard, no offense to Mr. Fishback?
	I hadn't heard of him for about a week ago.
	He does not, clearly, does not have the national profile that Byron Daniels does.
	What could it be about him that puts him above Byron Daniels in a poll for governor running for governor of Florida?
	I've got two videos to show you: one from Byron Daniels and one from Fishback, and I think they may elucidate some of the issue.
	Let's go first to clip number 17.
	This is the guy the Republicans are running to be the next governor of Florida to take the reins from Ron DeSantis.
	Let's watch.
byron donalds ▲ ● ▼		Modernize a lot of these different visa programs.
		Do all that work.
		Do it.
		Get it done.
		And I think the American people, whether you're liberal or conservative, will say, okay, now that our immigration system is sound and modernized and we've secured our country, now let's take a look at the people who are here illegally.
		And I think the American people, we're great people.
		We are a good people.
		We're a beneficent people.
		And with those people who are here working hard doing those things that they should be doing, it's just as good neighbors and good people, we would make them and put them on this pathway to citizenship.
		But I think the pathway to actually fixing immigration in our country is possible.
		But we have to have honest conversations with ourselves.
		We got to have honest brokers, frankly, on both sides of the aisle because we can come to a solution that actually respects citizenship in our country and actually creates a stable legal immigration process in our country.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's talking about amnesty.
		He's saying to give amnesty to the illegals.
		Who do you think wants that?
		Why do you think you're losing?
		Byron Daniels, could it possibly be?
		Because when every single one of your constituents is yelling at the top of their lungs, deport the illegal immigrants, you're giving interviews talking about a pathway to citizenship, you absolute moron.
		Like, what do we have to do to get our message across?
		Are we not being clear with what we want?
		We don't want a pathway to citizenship.
		We don't want to have nice people on both sides discuss this.
		We want to put a line in the sand and defend it.
		We want to say 100% deportations and hell.
		If the negotiations go away, that we can't quite get 100% of what we want.
		We want somebody on our behalf negotiating in a way that benefits us and does not start off on the enemy's ground.
		Like, what is hard to understand about this?
		What is hard to understand?
		Okay, in realpolitik, you got this bicameral system.
		We got to make deals sometimes.
		You don't give in before the negotiations have started.
		You say we want mass deportations.
		We want 100% elimination of illegal immigration in this country.
		That's where I'm beginning negotiations, and I'm not willing to move very much.
		So let's talk.
		It's so unbelievably frustrating.
		Who are they listening to?
		Who is telling them this?
		They're going to learn.
		That man, like I said, been one of my favorites.
		He's been really a solid dude in the MAGA coalition for as long as I've known him in there.
		He's talking about amnesty.
		Talking about illegal immigrants who have been good neighbors.
		We need to make them a path to citizenship.
		I'm sorry.
		Is this a video from 12 years ago?
		Like, what are you talking about, sir?
		Right now, mass deportations is the moderate stance.
		The majority of people that would vote for you, the Republicans in your district or your state, most of them want the illegal immigrants shot out of a cannon into the sun.
		Most of them don't care how we get rid of the illegal immigrants.
		They want their country back.
		That's what you need to understand.
		That's what Republicans need to understand.
		The things that you are being told by the advisors are extremist positions to avoid, like mass deportation, those are the moderate position at this point.
		Most of your constituents want things that I can't even say on the radio.
		Get with the program or don't.
		I don't care.
		You'll be gone.
		You're not going to get elected anymore.
		And unfortunately, that means that likely the Democrats are going to get elected.
		And then they're going to bring 40 million more people in and they are going to give amnesty to your little friends.
		And then the country we know as America will never exist ever again.
		That's it.
		We're dead.
		Dead in the water.
		Just running out the clock at that point.
		That's unfortunate.
		What I would prefer to see is not voting for these Republicans, these Republicans, not voting for them and instead voting for people like, well, Mr. Fishback here, clip number eight.
		Here's the ad that's pinned to his X feed.
james fishback ▲ ● ▼		My name is James Fishback and I'm running to succeed Ron DeSantis as Florida's next Republican governor.
		I'm running for Florida governor so I can make life more affordable for you and your family.
		Easier to afford groceries, to buy a home, to raise a family, and when it's all said and done, to retire with dignity.
		I'll do that by stopping the H-1B scam so our workers, especially our college grads, can get jobs again.
		I'll tell Blackstone, Airbnb, and foreign investors that no, in Florida, you can't buy our homes because our homes are for families.
		And I'll stop the construction of any AI data center that threatens to raise our electricity bills or poison our water supply.
		And I'll completely and totally eliminate property taxes for every Florida resident because in America, you don't rent your home from the government.
		You own it free and clear.
		Nowadays, not all Republicans are the same.
		If a Republican politician supports the H-1B scam that fires our workers, he can't be our next governor.
		If he goes out and supports the building of AI data centers that threaten our electric bills and our water supply, he can't be our next governor.
		And if he goes to Congress and does nothing for us but makes millions of dollars trading stocks for himself, he can't be our next governor.
		Congressman Byron Donalds can't be our next governor because he won't fight for Florida like Ron DeSantis has.
		I will.
		I'll fight to preserve Governor DeSantis' wins by keeping Florida free from DEI, radical transgenderism, Soros-backed prosecutors, child predators, voter fraud, and the millions of illegals that invaded our country on Kamala Harris's watch.
		I'll do that because unlike Byron Donald's, I'm not a politician.
		I'm an investor and a businessman.
		I stood up to Wall Street.
		I sued the Federal Reserve and I filed a landmark brief with the Supreme Court defending President Trump's right to fire corrupt federal officials.
		I started Incubate Debate, a free high school debate league for thousands of kids across Florida so they could learn how to debate, discuss, and grow as Americans.
		I love our state.
		I am a fourth generation Floridian.
		My great-grandfather fought in World War I and then owned a small hotel on Fort Lauderdale Beach.
		My grandfather fought in World War II and ran 750 head of cattle in Okeechobee.
		My father proudly drove the city bus in Broward County, where I was born and raised.
		I went to Florida public schools from kindergarten to graduation.
		Even though I grew up in South Florida, I now call the panhandle home.
		I'm an unapologetic Christian who believes that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life.
		And I'm a proud American who will never apologize for our history.
		In the coming months, I'm going to meet as many Florida voters as I can, where they live, work, and pray.
		I'll visit all 67 counties because Florida's next governor has to be someone you can see, talk to, and even debate with.
		I look forward to seeing you soon.
		My name is James Fishback, and I approve this message because Florida is our home.
		America is our birthright, and we will never let them steal it from us.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, pretty unapologetic.
		The man, the man has a video of a Confederate statue in his ad saying we are not going to be ashamed of our history.
		He is now leading Byron Daniels by nearly 20 points.
		Are you getting the message yet?
		Are you getting the message yet that all of your little caveats, all of your little, you know, apologizing for how you are and promising to adopt the leftist policies as long as you don't call them names?
		Like, it's not, it's not working.
		It's not what we want.
		Again, I can't even.
		Now, full disclosure, we're actually going to have James Fishback on the show.
		I'm very excited to talk to him.
		And he's running for governor of Florida.
		And I got to admit, at first, the guy came out of nowhere so suddenly.
		I don't know if it was the same with y'all, but on X, I'd never seen this guy before.
		Suddenly, I'm seeing it in everywhere.
		Suddenly, it's like videos of his speech everywhere.
		So much so that I actually got suspicious.
		I was actually like, okay, who is this guy?
		Why did he go from never seeing him to seeing him everywhere?
		So I just want to make clear: like, I'm not like a, I don't know, I don't know him.
		I talked to him once.
		I said, you want to come on the show?
		He said, yes, we connect him with a producer.
		That's all I've so much about him.
		This is a this is emblematic.
		This is a symbol.
		This is this is a lesson for the Republicans across the country to hear.
		We are done with the corporate crap.
		And hell, you know, that may be part of the plan.
		The whole, this whole saga of Donald Trump losing all of this support, this may be the two-party system working as intended to literally cripple and destroy the Republican Party on purpose by design to leave us a one-party state at the end of it.
		Could very well be.
		It's not an excuse.
		The people of America don't want your reaching across the aisle.
		We don't want you making little carve-outs for illegal immigrants because they're such good neighbors.
		We're done with all of that.
		We're done with all of that.
		All of it.
		All of it.
		Yeah, including the Confederate statues.
		Yeah, including just all of it.
		Just all of it, all of it.
		And again, just go through James Fishback's X feed at J underscore Fishback, and you'll see he's probably the most hardcore politician you've ever seen in your life.
		He is now leading Byron Daniels, who again, I just want to remind you: Byron Daniels has been a key fixture of the MAGA coalition for years.
		He has name recognition on a national level.
		He has proven himself to be a responsible politician, but it doesn't matter because he is still spinning the old neocon lines of reaching across the aisle and being reasonable.
		We want extremism.
		What do you not understand about this?
		James Fischback, I'm the only person running for governor who will ban foreigners from buying up our homes to protect homeownership for you and your family.
		Well, gee, that sounds like an incredibly easy solution.
		How dare you suggest that?
		This is the polymarket on their race.
		That's his skyrocketed.
		I can't see the very top of the screen, so I assume that's what it is.
		63% chance they're giving fish back.
		Byron Daniels cannot get a single like on a tweet after it's been up for 45 minutes.
		That's pretty pathetic.
		Fishback in the Florida Phoenix article yesterday, quote, America is for Americans.
		Have you ever heard Republican politicians say America is for Americans?
		It's like the simplest thing to say ever.
		I don't know if I've ever heard that.
		They'd probably call it racist.
		It really just goes on and on.
		H1 Byron supports mass amnesty.
		I support mass deportations.
		GOP governatorial candidate James Fishback campaigns on the message that, quote, Florida is our home.
	The 30-year-old political newcomer wants to end H-1B visas and remove every foreign worker that has stolen a job from us.
	If Republicans took this tack, you think Mamdani would have won in New York?
	Do you think they would have swept the special elections earlier this year?
	Do you think Nashville, Tennessee, would be such a nail-biter?
	Again, I'm just, I want to make clear, like, I don't know that much about Fishback, so I don't want to be endorsing him without doing my research, but I also don't want to be claiming anything.
	I'm just saying, what do you not get about this, Republicans?
	What do you not understand about the way things are going, the trajectory of the American populace?
	Again, get on board or get run over.
	That's just, that's the choice that you have now.
	And you have to make the right one because making the wrong one, the country is over.
	Literally, it's over.
	So, again, not sure what it takes to get this through to Republicans, but Republicans are, it's almost like they are, I don't even know how to put it, like scared of their own shadow, unwilling to do anything without permission.
	But then when they have permission, they go way overboard.
	You know, right now, in Ireland, a judge has just jailed a teacher, Enoch Burke.
	We've covered his story.
	It's a saga.
	He has essentially been given a life sentence because he refused to refer to transgender people in the gender of their choice.
	He has now been thrown into jail for life.
	For life.
	Now, at times like this, you would think that as a nation whose founding and whose character is based on free speech and the ability to speak your conscience and the ultimate supreme gift from God, that is our ability to express ourselves in accordance with our own interpretation of the world.
	You would think that maybe we would reach out and say something about this.
	You would think that maybe, just maybe, we would, you know, as Senators or congressmen, American politicians might want to use the power they have, the influence of America, to do something about this.
	Well, at the same time that Enoch Burke was being thrown into jail for life, refusing to go along with the court orders, he had to call trans people in their chosen gender, Lindsey Graham wrote a scathing letter to the Irish government expressing his vicious outrage at Dublin's decision to rename a park after somebody who's not Jewish.
	That's what our Republicans are doing.
	See, the American people would be ecstatic.
	We'd be over the moon if our prosperity, our influence on the world stage, was used to progress our ideas, our mindset, our belief system, our ideology, free speech.
	We can say to Ireland, hey, Ireland, you want to keep doing business with us?
	Let Enoch Burke out of prison.
	Instead, Senator Graham, quote, Dublin's move against Herzog Park shows, quote, cesspool of anti-Semitism.
	Lindsey Graham on Saturday denounced Dublin City Council's proposal to remove the name of Israel's sixth president, Chaim Herzog, from a park.
	Well, thanks, Lindsay.
	Thanks, Lindsey Graham.
	It's real great.
	It's wonderful.
	Exactly what we want.
	Thank you.
	Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
	This is the war room.
	You know, we did an episode of Moonbase Live yesterday.
	You can find it on my ex if you want.
	We had Joe WaKeely on.
	He's a producer for the Hodge Twins, and it was very fun.
	And he asked me a question at the very end that I don't think I've thought about very much, but I think it's worth addressing.
	He said, How does it feel to know that you guys beat the World Economic Forum?
	I thought about it for a second.
	I said, it feels good.
	It feels good.
	It feels really good.
	You know, we beat them, right?
	We beat the World Economic Forum.
	We beat climate change.
	We even beat the Ukraine war.
	Like, when you really look at what the plans were for humanity, basically, option one, you know, plan A has failed.
	So they're moving on to plan B.
	And the World Economic Forum is maybe the best symbol of this.
	Klaus Schwab ain't there no more.
	And I mean, they say in their own conferences, they go, you know, we didn't, we lost.
	They intended COVID to be still going on to this day.
	Anthony Fauci still refers to this as COVID year five, right?
	They intend us to be locked down until the food systems started failing and they had to implement rationing and, you know, would have implemented the Mark of the Beast system at that point.
	We defeated that.
	Okay.
	Climate change now, Bill Gates is downplaying, and it's not that big of a deal.
	Don't worry about it.
	Okay, we defeated them.
	All right.
	The Ukraine war is coming to an end, whether Europe likes it or not.
	And Europe is trying hilariously to really start a war with Russia.
	I say hilariously because they do not have the ability to fight a war with Russia.
	Certainly not without American help.
	And we're not planning on doing that anymore.
	We have stopped so many of their plans in their tracks.
	And we don't really talk about that enough.
	We don't really talk about enough.
	But the World Economic Forum, the reason it's the perfect symbol, Klaus Schwab had to retire.
	He was basically forced out.
	They're mad at him because he failed to be the captain of the ship that brought us into the New World Order.
	And so who replaced him?
	Larry Fink, head of BlackRock.
	So here you see the change in tactic.
	They've gone from attempting to seduce the world into willingly accepting the new world order.
	The image I always say of like you're trying to cage a tiger, and the tiger at the last moment looks around, notices a cage, and starts to back up.
	And the New World Order had an option.
	They could have laid low.
	They could have relaxed and let the tiger get comfortable again and try again to seduce him and trick him into coming into the cage, but they're not patient enough for that.
	They're not reasonable enough for that.
	They instead want to reach out and grab the tiger and pull us in.
	So that's the strategy change that they have adopted.
	It's not Klaus Schwab trying to make you think that this is some sort of sophisticated, brilliant things.
unidentified		If you don't go along with this, you must be some sort of Luddite.
unidentified		So if you want to be a part of this cool new European technocrat clash, you'll just come along with us.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Like, that doesn't work anymore.
		So they're just going to have Larry Fink just use the financial system that he controls to just make it happen, whether we like it or not.
		That's their strategy.
		But we have defeated the World Economic Forum.
		We have defeated the climate change hoax.
		We have defeated the Democrats.
		We have defeated the socialists in the realm of the info war.
		Now they still control a lot of the levers of power.
		We have not yet wrestled those out of their grip.
		We have not yet set the train on the right tracks, but we are on board.
		And we are in hand-to-hand combat with the people driving the train right now.
		And they are stumbling and falling.
		Things like this: quote, we must protect Volodymyr.
		Leaked call shows European leaders conspiring against Trump peace plan.
		Yeah, too bad, suckers.
		In a development that is not entirely surprising, European leaders are claiming that Washington is looking to betray Ukraine and President Zelensky during the potential formal peace negotiations with Russia.
		Quote, there's a possibility that the United States will abandon Ukraine on territorial questions without providing clarity on security guarantees, French President Emmanuel Macron reportedly said in a leaked phone call with other European leaders.
		Likely this was an intentional leak and a bit of strong signaling to the Trump administration, as Europe has not been on board with the U.S. president's proposed peace plan from the start.
		There's a possibility that the U.S. will betray Ukraine on the issue of territory without clarity on security matters.
		It's a great danger for Zelensky.
		However, Macron's office has subsequently sought to clarify that, quote, the president did not use those words.
		Well, but that's the intention.
		So, like, Europe is still trying to get this war going.
		It ain't happening, folks.
		It's just not happening.
		You do not have the capability to do what you say you want to do.
		Now, in reality, what they want to do is not fight a war with the intention of winning a war.
		They want to fight a war in order to accelerate all of their other tyrannical and murderous intentions.
		Look at the history of Europe over the last five decades.
		Do you think the people that are running that continent, you think the people that have made their way to the top of the power structures of the most sophisticated civilization to ever live, do you think they're dumb?
		You think they're stupid?
		You think they're not good at what they're doing?
		Or do you think they're evil?
		Because those are the only options.
		Because Europe over the last five decades has been in a precipitous downfall.
		They're currently in a feedback loop, a downward spiral that it may be impossible to recover from.
		I mean, industrially, they're out of the running.
		They're blowing up their own energy production facilities and trying to start a war with the person they get their gas from.
		Like, they are not retarded.
		Let me clarify.
		They're not retarded.
		They're dumb.
		They're evil.
		Dumb's not the right word.
		They're deliberately destroying the country that they're in charge of, the nations that they're in charge of.
		Western Europeans, Europe's globalist leaders undermine Trump's peace plan.
		German Air Force deploys Euro fighters to Poland, Euro fighter jets.
		Germany's increasingly unpopular and illegitimate globalist establishment, now led by former BlackRock executive Frederick Murs.
		Is he really a BlackRock executive?
		So you're telling me that the leader of Germany is a former BlackRock executive.
		The leader of France is a former Rothschild Bank executive.
		The leader of Canada is a former Bank of England executive.
		Hmm, I think I'm seeing a pattern here.
		I think I'm detecting a shadow establishment that has nothing to do with democracy.
		So at this point, the banks are just running us.
		So in the same way that they've replaced Klaus Schwab with the head of BlackRock Larry Fink, the World Economic Forum, now every European country more or less is governed by somebody who was previously an investment banker with BlackRock, the Rothschild Bank, the Bank of England.
		Okay.
		What did Kier Starmer do?
		He wasn't in finance, though.
		He was a lawyer who let out all the grooming gang victims or the grooming gang perpetrators.
		So he paid his dues to the new world order anyway.
		So their plan, impoverish and enslave humanity in a digital gulag through COVID.
		Darn it.
		Trump forced them to release the vaccine.
	I know you hate Trump and the vaccine, but it did destroy their plans, whether you like it or not.
	And we reported on it as it was happening.
	So there's really no excuse for misunderstanding what the intention of Operation Warpsfeed was.
	It was to stop the elite's plans who intended to keep us locked down until the starvation commenced, because then they'd have the infrastructure and the impetus to create the market of the beast system, starve you if you don't obey QR codes and all that.
	They also intended to start a widespread European-wide war with Russia.
	I think their intention with Ukraine was to have it be a sort of permanent battlefield, kind of like Syria, where for the next 15 years they were hoping they would be feeding in the youth of Europe into Ukraine because they really thought it's why the Azov battalion was always on the forefront of their propaganda.
	And, you know, I think maybe our side fell for this a little bit because it was so ridiculous because they're like, wait, Ukraine is going to fight, but one of their most in the forefront invisible contingents are literal Nazis.
	It seemed ridiculous.
	It's only ridiculous if you don't understand what their intention was.
	You know, ISIS fought in Syria for 15 years, was created in no small part to destroy Hezbollah and the Bashir al-Assad regime as a weapon against Iran.
	You know, most of the people that fought and died in the Middle East in ISIS were not from the Middle East.
	They're from Europe.
	So you have Saudi Arabian Wahhabiist mosques set up in Europe, radicalizing European youth and then sending them to die in ISIS.
	I think the same thing was happening in Ukraine, where they put the Azov Battalion out front because they expected with like a rising tide of like white identity, they were going to co-opt that and say, yeah, we're fighting for white pride.
	We're the Nazis and you're going to come join us in Ukraine to fight our old enemies, the Russians.
	I think they expected that to work.
	It didn't work.
	But they expected Ukraine to go on for like decades.
	They'd be able to sell weapons.
	They'd be able to kill a bunch of Europeans.
	They'd be able to weaken Russia and eventually go to full war with Russia.
	And of course, if you want depopulation and starvation conditions and a total reorganization of the entire economy and censorship that has the force and the power of wartime censorship, what you needed was a war.
	They want a war with Russia so that they can get all of what they're doing now slowly.
	They could get it so much faster with the war.
	So that was the intention of that.
	The attention of climate change, of course, corresponds to all of this and works alongside all of this to demonize life itself as somehow hurting the earth and enforcing anti-human measures that way.
	Our exposure has, in a very real and tangible way, defeated all of this in the minds of the people.
	People aren't accepting it.
	We aren't falling for it.
	I was getting my hair cut the other day.
	I guess on Monday before the show.
	You know, random barbershop in Austin, random sort of hipster dude cutting my hair.
	Cool guy into Warhammer.
	It was fun.
	But he's talking and, you know, we're chatting like you do with your barber.
	I didn't get into what I do.
	You know, but he's talking about a movie and he's going, yeah, you know, this character, he was kind of like a mix between like Elon and Fauci, you know, Fauci wasn't evil.
	And he just like kept talking.
	And I was like, is that the is that the understanding now?
	Like, have we reached critical mass?
	He didn't know I was conservative.
	He didn't know I was right-wing.
	He didn't, I didn't say anything about conspiracy theories or Fauci or COVID before that.
	Totally out of the blue, totally randomly, he references Fauci and says, you know, Fauci wasn't evil.
	And I was just like, oh, right, we won.
	Okay.
	Mark one for the good guys.
	If your hipster barbers in Austin know that Fauci's evil, I think we won.
	I think we won.
	I think we won against all odds.
	I think the greatest psyop ever pulled in all of human history ran up against the wall that is InfoWars and crumbled to dust.
	You did that.
	We did that.
	Isn't that fun?
	Isn't that fun to think about?
	Isn't that fun to think about where it goes from here?
	Isn't it fun to understand that that's why things are going so crazy?
	That, you know, if you watch the mainstream media, they're not going to admit that they're losing.
	They're not going to go around showing you that the average person out there thinks Fauci is a scumbag and Bill Gates is evil and climate change is a scam.
	They're not going to tell you that, but they know.
	But the people at the top, they know which way the winds are blowing and they're freaking out, which is why they're trying to implement censorship.
	It's why they're trying to get all these laws passed and make us more like Europe so they can throw people in jail for years on end for their tweets.
	And on that note, like as much as I sort of buoyant when I think about how successful we've been and how much we have been able to counteract their propaganda, I don't want to be too celebratory because what is still going on right now in America and around the world is truly horrifying.
	And, you know, we talk about this stuff all the time.
	It's the classic thing where you just sort of hear about it and you go, oh, gosh, that's terrible.
	But every once in a while, it really hits me and I really think about it.
	And it really becomes clear, you know, all over again why we're fighting for this, what this is worth.
	You know, we just showed you yesterday a video of a UK minister saying they're getting rid of jury trials, getting rid of jury trials.
	Okay.
	A staple of English judicial practice since the Magna Carta is just quietly going away because it's inconvenient.
	That's horrifying.
	We hear often about the number of people and the severity of the punishment of people being arrested for tweets or their speech in the UK.
	And you hear about it so much, you almost get numb to it.
	But like, do you understand how utterly brutal, how utterly inhumane it is to arrest like a father for three years?
	People go to jail for three years or more in the UK for saying things in private.
	This person, it was a public tweet, Welsh man, 20 months in jail for a tweet.
	A tweet that's not even offensive.
	A tweet that is, frankly, just a very basic and innocent expression of frustration.
	20 months in prison.
	Especially if you have a kid, because that's what always gets me, is I just think about like, you know, my son is four, almost five.
	And it's like, what if I had missed from the time where he'd just been able to walk until now?
	Think about what you would have missed.
	Think about the just permanent damage you would do to that kid.
	And it's just, it is so brutal.
	And this is from judges who let murderers out, who cover up for serial rapists.
	And they're throwing fathers in prison for years because of tweets like this one.
	David Morgan from my ancestral homeland of Wales.
	I'm sick of hearing about the Holocaust.
	I'm a 22-year-old white male growing up in a world where every single negative aspect of life is Jewish.
	Government, banking, entertainment, porn.
	But the second I say a word, all I hear about is the GD Holocaust F off.
	20 months in jail for expressing this opinion.
	Is it offensive?
	I guess, maybe, I don't know.
	I'm not offended by it, personally.
	Would Jewish person be offended by this?
	Maybe, I guess.
	I mean, the government is dominated by Jewish interests.
	That much is true.
	Banking, obviously, historically, came about out of a Jewish community.
	Entertainment, dominated by Jews.
	They'll be the first ones to tell you it.
	Porn, same thing, right?
	A rabbi owns Pornhub and all those websites.
	The number one contributor to APAC is OnlyFans.
	So he's not wrong.
	He's just frustrated.
	Now, maybe if he said this exact same thing, but said how great it was, he wouldn't go to jail because this is arbitrary.
	Because he didn't violate a law.
	He didn't call for violence.
	He didn't even directly insult a person or even a group.
	He said, it's frustrating that I see all these things wrong in the world.
	And when I talk about the Jewish influence in any of these industries, I have to hear about the Holocaust again as a 22-year-old guy in England whose entire life has been marred by the continual and covered up rape of a million British girls.
	It's like, what?
	But Jews were mistreated in Germany 80 years ago, and that's why I can't talk about my life now.
	Like, this is absurd.
	But it's not even about, it doesn't even matter.
	It doesn't even matter.
	It doesn't matter what he said.
	He could have written F the Jews, and he still wouldn't deserve 20 months in prison.
	20 months in prison.
	And it's coming here, folks.
	It's coming here.
	It's absolutely 100% the bills are being written.
	The precursor laws are being passed.
	And if we aren't aware and cognizant and fired up about what this means, that's the thing.
	Like, you know, it can be hard to get fired up about things like that are just concepts, free speech.
	Yeah, but it's like, you don't even have to care that much about free speech.
	What you have to care about is the consequences of not having free speech.
	You have to understand that we are headed towards the cliff of the abyss.
	And if we go off, there is no coming back because once they eliminate free speech, you can't argue for free speech anymore.
	This is a bright red line that we have to scare our politicians away from even approaching.
	Okay.
	Forget getting up to the line and starting to cross it.
	We have to scare them away from even entertaining the idea that we will ever have laws like this in our country.
	20 years in prison for a tweet.
	And it's going to be hard for them to get this because the thing we have to re-emphasize and reassert over and over is that our rights do not come from the government.
	They come from God.
	And this is not a talking point.
	It's not just quoting the Constitution to prove what a patriot I am.
	This is a fundamental reality that we have to reassert over and over again because they have to understand that we do not have to and actually have to be against laws that try to restrict our natural rights.
	In other words, we have to make it clear to them that as Americans with our own internalized understanding of the First Amendment, not giving us our right to free speech, but writing down our pre-existing right to free speech, we have to let them know that we will never give that up.
	And any laws passed in that regard will be ignored and treated as treason and violently resisted.
	Violently resisted.
	In the UK right now, if the police officer knocks on your door and says, you have tweeted incorrectly, sir, come with us, you kind of got to go with them.
	They don't have the First Amendment.
	They don't have the free speech like we do.
	Now, in America, if a cop comes to your door and says you're under arrest for your speech, and if you didn't threaten anybody, you didn't actually cross the line into what can be criminal speech, threats or doxing or stuff like that.
	But if you express an opinion like this, if you express an opinion like, hey, all this negative stuff in my life seems to come from Jews and then the Holocaust gets brought up if I ever talk about it.
	And the cops come to throw you in jail for 20 months, it is your obligation as an American to let them know that that's an invalid law.
	It does not count.
	It does not supersede your right to express yourself and that you'll defend yourself in the same way that you would defend yourself if the mafia came to take you away.
	If the Crips or the Bloods or any other criminal gang came to kidnap you, that is now the relationship between the American citizen and the police.
	Like the First Amendment is not an option.
	It is not something to be negotiated over.
	It is something that is here.
	It will never not be here.
	And those of us who believe in it will die or kill to uphold it.
	Do we get that?
	Randy Fine, do we understand that?
	Let's go to clip number 12 here.
	Randy Fine has introduced a bill to force the State Department to start delivering briefings on the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe.
	Let's watch.
randy fine ▲ ● ▼		This bill directs the State Department to address that growing threat of anti-Semitism, to make clear to our European allies that the conduct that they have allowed to take place within their countries.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		So, not simply are they not standing up against the censorship of Europe, they're putting on their gay little hat, shoving their fat ass into a chair in the Congress, and telling us that it's America's job to punish Europe for not being more censorious.
		This ain't gonna fly, it's not gonna last.
		There's a distinct tension developing right now that will break at a certain point unless people like Randy Fine shut the hell up forever.
		But he's gonna keep pushing us until things get really bad.
		So that's just where we're at.
		So it's up to Randy Fine.
		I mean, Randy Fine is looking at Europe, who's throwing people in jail for 20 years for saying, I'm sick of hearing about the Holocaust.
		And he's like, not enough.
		Not enough.
		We need to use America to force them to censor more.
		This is an incompatible dualism that we have here.
		So America, the First Amendment, is sacred.
		We should be doing everything we can to export it to other places.
		We should be using the power of America not to serve the interest of Jewish supremacist, fat ass retards like Randy Fine, but instead to serve the interests of the American people, our history, our heritage, our founding principles, the First Amendment, free speech as a concept having been given to us from God.
		That's our responsibility.
		It's our role.
		And people like Randy Fine are incompatible with that and need to be removed from office peacefully.
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