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| Tomorrow's news today. | ||
| Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the war room. | ||
| I'm your host, Harrison Smith. | ||
| Very big show we have for you today. | ||
| Patrick Vyrn will be joining me in studio at 4 p.m. | ||
| We'll continue the conversation he was having with Alex Jones, maybe take it in some new directions. | ||
| After all, he has a wide spectrum of information that he can inform us about. | ||
| And then we'll be joined in the five o'clock hour by Vish Burra, who is the latest victim of right-wing cancel culture. | ||
| I guess he posted a meme that was too spicy and has been fired. | ||
| And we have to stand up against cancel culture because it's just censorship by any other name. | ||
| Well, let's begin today as we do every day with our daily dispatch. | ||
| Your daily dispatch for Thursday, the 20th of November, 2025. | ||
| FBI ramps up crackdown on 764 Network Child Exploitation Group nationwide. | ||
| The FBI has intensified its effort across the U.S. to take down the online child exploitation group 764 network with two recent examples highlighted by FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino in a post shared on X on Wednesday. | ||
| Bongino revealed how dangerous network, how the dangerous network has infiltrated online spaces, popular with minors, and said how aggressively federal authorities are moving to shut it down. | ||
| And again, this is very good to see. | ||
| We have been talking about 764 for years, and we're one of the first outlets out there to actually talk about this with the help, of course, of Becca, aka BX on X, who's helped to, you know, really make this issue known. | ||
| And it is a terrifying rabbit hole to go down. | ||
| So it's very good to see that that reporting and those independent investigations are now bearing fruit in these really disgusting, pedophilic, just gruesome, horrific networks are being targeted and shut down. | ||
| It's very good to see. | ||
| Meanwhile, Ambassador Huckabee held meeting with Jonathan Pollard, ex-spy at U.S. Embassy in Israel. | ||
| The meeting with Mr. Pollard, a former Navy intelligence analyst, was kept off Mr. Huckabee's official schedule, two of the U.S. officials said. | ||
| The fact that it occurred alarmed the CIA's station chief in Israel, three other officials said. | ||
| The CIA did decline to comment. | ||
| The White House was not aware of the meeting in advance, according to a White House official, and two people briefed on the matter. | ||
| The White House official also said that senior officials were alarmed when they learned it had taken place. | ||
| We'll talk a little bit more about that later, who Jonathan Pollard is and why this secret meeting is so objectionable to a number of, well, a lot of people in the U.S. government. | ||
| We'll go back to his conviction in the mid-80s for spying and selling secrets to Israel. | ||
| And the head of the CIA almost resigned over it. | ||
| It was a very big deal, and he was pardoned and released under Trump. | ||
| Meanwhile, Trump says Democratic veterans committed sedition, suggests death penalty. | ||
| That's the headline from Axios. | ||
| I like the way Infowars put it. | ||
| It was something like, Trump points out the lawful punishment for sedition because that's what he was doing. | ||
| This, of course, is the biggest story the world right now. | ||
| And I got to say, what are you doing? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Let's, from now on, here's my advice to the Trump administration. | ||
| Less talking, more doing. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Yes, it was seditious. | ||
| Yes, they should be charged. | ||
| Yes, the punishment is up to 20 years in prison or the death penalty. | ||
| That's the law on the books. | ||
| They violated the law abjectly, blatantly. | ||
| And so you can either do something about that or you should not say anything about it. | ||
| The worst possible thing to do is to tweet out posts that say Democrats should be hung and then not actually do anything about it. | ||
| So all that's happened is you now have the Democrats making hay and giving speeches and posting videos talking about what a dangerous precedent it's setting for the Trump administration to say that Democrats should be killed. | ||
| And it's like, you know what should have happened was this morning we should have woken up to the news that they'd all been placed in custody. | ||
| You didn't have to say anything. | ||
| You should have had no tweets from Trump and the five people that were in that video should have been arrested and charged. | ||
| And you didn't have to say anything. | ||
| That's what should have happened. | ||
| Instead, we've got no charge, no arrest, no indictment. | ||
| They haven't been censured by the other Congress members. | ||
| They haven't been kicked off their committees. | ||
| Nothing's happened to them, but Trump is tweeting out death threats and now everybody's pissed. | ||
| It's just the worst combination. | ||
| It's the worst way to respond to this. | ||
| And I don't understand what the strategy is here. | ||
| We'll get into it more. | ||
| Meanwhile, Zelensky urges, agrees rather, to negotiate on Trump's peace plan for Ukraine. | ||
| So we could be getting closer to peace there. | ||
| And also, the COP30 climate summit is burning down the rainforest, which is oddly appropriate. | ||
| We'll be right back with more at the war room. | ||
| Don't go anywhere, folks. | ||
| InfoWars.com. | ||
| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is the war room. | ||
| Yes, folks, the climate change summit, COP30, being held in the Amazon rainforest. | ||
| That means that they already had to fell acres and acres and acres of Amazon rainforest to hold their little conference. | ||
| And then the whole thing catches on fire. | ||
| And I guess, I mean, I can't think of another policy summit that has had a more detrimental impact to the environment than COP30. | ||
| It's oddly appropriate, isn't it? | ||
| A fire that forced an evacuation of the COP30 climate summit in Brazilian city of Belum on Thursday was under control, officials said, although it was unclear whether delegates would return immediately to continue negotiations. | ||
| Brazil's tourism minister told reporters at the venue that the fire was under control and no one was hurt, but he did not know whether the delegates would be able to return today or Friday to take part of the venue where the summit negotiations were taking place. | ||
| Well, what are we going to do if they aren't there to negotiate our dispossession? | ||
| Whatever are we going to do if they aren't able to gather together to plot how to tax us to save the earth? | ||
| This could be it, right? | ||
| I mean, the world's over now. | ||
| If they can't come together to come up with plans to tax regular people into poverty so they can funnel that money to solar farms that never actually go online, what are we going to do? | ||
| This is a catastrophe. | ||
| It's an absolute catastrophe. | ||
| There's a lot going on in the political realm, and I think we'll start with that major story of today, the fact, the fact that these Democrats openly committed treason or sedition by telling soldiers to disobey their orders. | ||
| And Trump has responded to this in a kind of appropriate way. | ||
| I mean, he's right. | ||
| I mean, he's right about what he says when he says, you know, these people should be punished by death from Mediaite. | ||
| Trump floats execution for Democrats, quote, punishable by death. | ||
| Trump floats execution for Democrats who urged soldiers to disobey illegal orders. | ||
| President Donald Trump suggested that six Democrat lawmakers who put out a video urging military members to, quote, refuse illegal orders were guilty of, quote, seditious behavior punishable by death in a stunning Thursday morning Truth Social post. | ||
| The video, which was shared by Senator Elisa Slotkin, featured appearances from herself, Senator Mark Telly, as well as Representatives Jason Crowe, Chris DeLuzio, Chris DeLuzio, Chrissy Houlihan, and Maggie Goodlander, all of whom are veterans of the military or intelligence community. | ||
| And I mean, we talked about this a lot yesterday. | ||
| We talked about the day before. | ||
| Showed you the actual part of the U.S. Code that explicitly says that what they are doing is absolutely against the law. | ||
| It is absolutely seditious. | ||
| It is absolutely a crime that they should be going to jail for 20 years for. | ||
| And it's crazy that it's crazy that it hasn't happened yet. | ||
| There's the tweet, the truth social rather, from at RealDonald Trump, seditious behavior, comma, punishable by death in all caps. | ||
| And it's like, okay, who are you telling? | ||
| Who are you telling this? | ||
| You are the chief executive. | ||
| You are the chief law enforcement officer. | ||
| These people have not been arrested. | ||
| They have not been indicted. | ||
| They have not been charged with anything. | ||
| So that tweet would have been fine if they'd already been arrested. | ||
| But you don't do anything to them and you tweet out that they should be hung, basically. | ||
| And he retweeted another tweet saying that people should be hung. | ||
| And so now you have article after article after article, video after video, speech after speech from Chuck Schumer and anybody else just making hay with this. | ||
| I mean, they pretty much set a trap for Trump. | ||
| They pretty much set a trap for Trump and he fell right into it, which is upsetting because they also set a trap for themselves. | ||
| What they did absolutely is seditious. | ||
| I would say there's no way to argue against that. | ||
| And if you want, we can go back. | ||
| We can go back to the U.S. Code. | ||
| We can read the actual thing. | ||
| Because again, you don't have to, you know, their entire defense lies in the fact that they say unlawful orders. | ||
| They say, well, what's the problem with, you know, saying unlawful orders? | ||
| I said unlawful. | ||
| And that is they're allowed to disobey unlawful orders. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| Technically, in extreme circumstances, you're allowed to. | ||
| But obviously, they didn't say, hey, if the Trump administration orders you to rape prisoners, don't obey. | ||
| That's one of the blatantly, obviously illegal. | ||
| No, you don't have to do that. | ||
| They didn't say, hey, if the Trump administration tells you to start torturing civilians, say no to that. | ||
| Like these things you would never need to say because they'd never be ordered and it's obvious they wouldn't do it. | ||
| I mean, that's unnecessary. | ||
| But it'd be like somebody coming into your house and whispering to your children, hey, don't listen to your parents if they give you unfair instructions. | ||
| Don't follow rules that are unfair. | ||
| And it's like, okay, you're trying to make my children misbehave. | ||
| And it's like, well, no, no, I just said if the rule's unfair, wouldn't you agree with that? | ||
| And it's like, I'm the one who decides what's fair. | ||
| You just, how about don't talk to my children and certainly don't instruct them to disobey me. | ||
| What the hell is wrong with you? | ||
| Like, why would you allow that? | ||
| And again, soldiers aren't children, but like, that's the idea is that, you know, if somebody comes in is telling your kids, are they just looking out for your kids? | ||
| Well, I just want, I just want your kids to know that if their parent, you know, if their parents tell them to hurt somebody, not to do it. | ||
| It's like, you don't have to do that. | ||
| Why would you say that? | ||
| You are literally just trying to cause disruption. | ||
| You are trying to seed dissent in the ranks, dissension in the ranks. | ||
| That is your purpose. | ||
| That is what you were trying to do. | ||
| And, you know, the laws are written in a way to deal with this. | ||
| You know, if it was that easy, you just say, well, I just, I said unlawful. | ||
| Well, sure, I said disobey your orders, but there was an asterisk there. | ||
| And I said, only if it's unlawful. | ||
| It's like it doesn't work that way. | ||
| Any attempt to get people to disobey their order is illegal. | ||
| And they blatantly said it. | ||
| Blatantly. | ||
| So, I mean, we can look back at old U.S. codes. | ||
| Again, we just read it, 18 U.S. Code 2387, activities affecting armed forces generally. | ||
| U.S. Code 18 U.S. Code 2387 prohibits knowingly advising, counseling, urging, or in any manner causing or attempting to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the U.S. military. | ||
| The penalty is up to 20 years in prison and or a fine. | ||
| Okay, so it's not, you don't have to successfully get people to disobey their orders. | ||
| You don't have to, you know, specify exactly what you want them to do. | ||
| Any attempt to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty is a felony, a felony crime. | ||
| You cannot advise, counsel, urge, or in any manner cause or attempt to cause disloyalty or disobedience in the military. | ||
| That's what they did. | ||
| You cannot say they didn't do that just because they said, well, I technically said unlawful. | ||
| And again, we can get into exactly what manifestly unlawful means because it is absolutely illegal for soldiers to disobey orders unless the order they're given is quote unquote manifestly unlawful. | ||
| And that means things like raping and torturing people, firing on unarmed civilians, things like that, torturing prisoners, burying people alive. | ||
| Like, okay, no, you're not allowed to do that. | ||
| But what you're not allowed to do, what you're not allowed to disobey are orders that like you think might contradict civilian law or like you aren't sure whether or not you should be ordered to do something. | ||
| Like that's not how it works. | ||
| That's obviously not how it works. | ||
| And we can go over it. | ||
| I mean, I already did this on the show. | ||
| Tomorrow's News Today. | ||
| I guess everybody's catching up. | ||
| So in case you're just figuring this out for the first time, these are the examples that courts have repeatedly ruled are manifestly unlawful. | ||
| So refusal is permitted. | ||
| Ordering troops to shoot unarmed civilians or POWs for sport. | ||
| Okay, you're not allowed to do that. | ||
| Ordering rape or torture. | ||
| Okay, you're not allowed to do that. | ||
| Ordering the summary execution of prisoners. | ||
| Okay, you can refuse that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Here are the things you are not allowed to refuse. | ||
| Deploying to a war the soldier believes is immoral or unconstitutional. | ||
| Enforcing a curfew or lockdown the soldier thinks violates domestic law. | ||
| Participating in a military operation the soldier believes violates international laws, e.g. Iraq 2023, Afghanistan, et cetera, 2003 or Afghanistan, or Vietnam or any of these things. | ||
| Now, I don't even agree with this one, but it is the law. | ||
| Refusing vaccination mandates, mask mandates, or diversity training. | ||
| Okay, I have a problem with that, but it is the law. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Or refusing to use certain weapons the soldier believes is illegal unless the court has already ruled them illegal in that context. | ||
| Okay, so you have members of Congress and the Senate urging the military to disobey orders and even planting that in the mindset. | ||
| What they're saying is question your orders. | ||
| What they're saying is don't just do as you're told. | ||
| Don't follow the orders that you're given by the chain of command that ultimately ends up with the president elected by everybody in the country, making us a republic. | ||
| Like, don't follow chain of command. | ||
| You determine whether you think you should be doing this. | ||
| And if you don't want to do it, don't do it. | ||
| And we'll be there to protect you. | ||
| Now, probably not a lot of people in the military are even thinking this way or whatever do this. | ||
| But there are probably some that may be swayed by this. | ||
| That may actually think, hmm, if I disobey orders, I'll get in trouble, but I'll also probably become famous. | ||
| I'll probably also become a hero of the left. | ||
| I'll be able to stand up. | ||
| Then maybe more people will follow me like this. | ||
| And maybe I wasn't going to do it before, but now that I know I've got congressmen and senators who are urging me to do this, maybe that's a little bit more tempting. | ||
| Okay, so this is treason. | ||
| This is sedition. | ||
| That's what that is. | ||
| Okay, so it's crime. | ||
| So why is Trump tweeting about it? | ||
| That's the real question. | ||
| Why are they not in handcuffs? | ||
| Like Roger Stone on X yesterday was like, if this was the Biden administration and Republicans did this, their doors would have been kicked in by the FBI around 6 a.m. the next morning. | ||
| Well, now not only are we 24 hours later, nothing has been done about it, and now all of the Democrats in the video urging sedition, committing a felony, are now making new videos about how they're the victim of how Donald Trump is threatening their lives. | ||
| And you know that that's going to be the story that most Americans hear. | ||
| Most Americans didn't know this video existed. | ||
| The first thing they're going to hear is that Donald Trump is calling to hang Democrats. | ||
| That's going to be their framing of the story. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why would you tweet this out and do nothing else? | ||
| Now, supposedly they're going to do something else. | ||
| I'll show you videos of people in the Trump administration acting like they're taking this seriously. | ||
| But so far, nothing. | ||
| So far, nothing. | ||
| So far, they haven't been censured by the Congress. | ||
| Congress hasn't launched any investigations. | ||
| They haven't been kicked off of their committee meetings, committee positions. | ||
| Nothing has happened to them. | ||
| But they are making fundraising videos saying that Trump wants to hang them. | ||
| So what are we doing exactly? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| And why aren't we taking it more seriously? | ||
| And so, again, it's just like you can either arrest them and do something about it or just don't mention it. | ||
| But to call for their hanging and then not even arrest them is just the worst possible way to handle this. | ||
| And I don't know how else to put it, honestly. | ||
| But let's go to some of these videos. | ||
| I mean, I guess let's start with like a reasonable person. | ||
| Let's start with like an actual human being responding to this in a way that shows logic and understanding and patriotism. | ||
| This is actually the president of the New Hampshire Senate. | ||
| So one of the people who was in this video was a representative from New Hampshire. | ||
| It's now the president of the New Hampshire legislature has responded to this, saying that she thinks the person should resign. | ||
| Let's watch clip number nine now. | ||
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Quite frankly, I believe this, because of these statements, this woman needs to resign from the U.S. House of Representatives. | |
| If that's not going to happen, the House of Representatives should censor her and her colleagues who did this abysmal video, and they should have their security clearances pulled. | ||
| I've lost any confidence that I had in her to be able to represent the people of the state of New Hampshire. | ||
| And I'm just, as a veteran, I'm appalled. | ||
| And I hope the veterans of the state of New Hampshire are equally as appalled. | ||
| Yeah, well, I don't think they are. | ||
| I really don't think they are. | ||
| In fact, these people that have just committed a felony on TV, right? | ||
| I mean, this is, again, just insane how confident they are, knowing that just nothing's going to happen to them. | ||
| Representative Lisa Slotkin is one of the people there. | ||
| She's the quote-unquote former CIA officer, was in that video. | ||
| She's now making videos about this, making demands, demanding that people like Pete Hegseth come testify because of Donald Trump's tweet about how the death penalty is the lawful punishment for sedition. | ||
| Let's go to clip number six here, or I'm sorry, yes, 6A. | ||
| Lisa Slotkin basically saying that, again, just actually making demands. | ||
| She's actually making demands of the Trump administration, having just committed a felony and tried to encourage sedition amongst the ranks of the military. | ||
| Nothing's happened to her, so now she is making demands for Christy Noam and Pete Hegseth to go testify in front of Congress and be talked down to by them about deployments of the military domestically. | ||
| Let's watch. | ||
| There's been a lot of controversy. | ||
| A lot of people got upset about the video. | ||
| And let me just say, they are trying to wield fear to get us to stop talking about this issue. | ||
| They don't want to be talking about the deployment of the military in our streets, the deployment of federal law enforcement in our streets. | ||
| They don't want to have that public conversation because they know it goes to the heart of who we are as Americans, as a democracy. | ||
| And so we have a way to deal with this. | ||
| The Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Homeland Security, could do a public hearing, have the American people hear directly from them on the point of having U.S. military and U.S. law enforcement deployed to American cities. | ||
| Let the American public hear that conversation. | ||
| I can't think of something that's more fundamental to who we are as Americans. | ||
| Our founding fathers would certainly want to be having that conversation. | ||
| So we should have a public hearing. | ||
| Congress should do its job. | ||
| My colleagues who are chairwomen and chairmen of these committees should hold these hearings. | ||
| I think the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense should sit side by side and explain to the American people why it is we need to deploy these forces into American cities. | ||
| Because the Democrats flooded American cities with 40 million undocumented immigrants, you absolute moron. | ||
| And because the local municipal governments of these cities are refusing to cooperate with the federal government and is encouraging their own citizens to go out and physically assault federal officers and agents who are just trying to uphold the law that Congress passed 100 years ago that's still on the books and that is necessary for the functioning of any nation, basic border control. | ||
| That's why, dumbass. | ||
| Like, again, what do they have to do? | ||
| It's like you can tell they're like giddy about it. | ||
| She's like happy. | ||
| She's like, they're trying to instill us with fear. | ||
| She has no fear. | ||
| Why would she have fear? | ||
| Why would she have fear? | ||
| Nothing is going to happen to her. | ||
| She went on video as a former CIA officer, supposedly former CIA officer, as an elected representative and encouraged the military to disobey orders, flagrantly violating the U.S. Code with a felony for which she should be punished for up to 20 years in prison. | ||
| And then the next day, she's like laughing and is just like, well, now I'm going to demand the Secretary of State come explain themselves to me. | ||
| It's like, she should be in handcuffs. | ||
| She should be charged. | ||
| It's not like, what would like, because I'm trying to think of another, because we don't have very many speech laws in this country, which is a good thing. | ||
| We shouldn't. | ||
| But there are certain things, like there are barriers, right? | ||
| No, I don't think anybody is really, at the end of the day, a free speech absolutist when it comes to things like child pornography, right? | ||
| We all understand that, okay, there's limits because there's real victims in that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So we all understand that sort of thing. | ||
| Or we understand fire in a crowded theater. | ||
| Or, hey, maybe you just use your words to bilk somebody out of money. | ||
| Okay, well, that's theft, but all you did was use your words to do it, to con somebody. | ||
| It's like, okay, there are things you can say that do in fact arise to the level of illegality. | ||
| This is one of them. | ||
| This is one of those things. | ||
| The law is on the books. | ||
| She broke it. | ||
| Why is she not arrested? | ||
| I'm genuinely, unbelievably infuriating. | ||
| Here's Chuck Schumer going off about this, making hay with this, pretending to be the victim in all of this. | ||
| Let's go to clip number six, B now. | ||
| Mr. President. | ||
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Democrat leaders recognized. | |
| Earlier today, Donald Trump shared a post on Truth Social calling for Democratic members of Congress to be hanged. | ||
| He also posted a message that said, seditious behavior, punishable by death. | ||
| Let's be crystal clear. | ||
| The President of the United States is calling for the execution of elected officials. | ||
| This is an outright threat, and it's deadly serious. | ||
| We have already seen what happens when Donald Trump tells his followers that his political opponents are enemies of the state. | ||
| Every time Donald Trump posts things like this, he makes political violence more likely. | ||
| None of us should tolerate this kind of behavior. | ||
| We all remember what January 6th was like. | ||
| We lived through January 6th. | ||
| We have lived through the assassination and attempted assassinations this year. | ||
| We have members whose families have had to flee their homes. | ||
| When Donald Trump uses the language of execution and treason, some of his supporters may very well listen. | ||
| He is lighting a match in a country soaked with political gasoline. | ||
| Every senator, every representative, every American, regardless of party, should condemn this immediately and without qualification. | ||
| Because if we don't draw a line here, there is no line left to draw. | ||
| Who would have thought the president of the United States saying his opponent should be hanged? | ||
| It's outrageous. | ||
| No president has ever stooped as low as Donald Trump. | ||
| None. | ||
| No, I mean, there are political. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| What can I say? | ||
| He's right. | ||
| Elisa Slotkin is right. | ||
| You know, she also invoked the Founding Fathers. | ||
| What the Founding Fathers would have done is ride you down and string you up, but not before pouring hot tar on you and feathering you and maybe letting the neighborhood kids throw some rocks at you for a little while. | ||
| So the Founding Fathers, we've never had a president have to deal with this. | ||
| I mean, except for one. | ||
| I can think of one. | ||
| It's neighbors Abraham Lincoln. | ||
| He threw the entire legislature of Maryland in jail so they couldn't resist him. | ||
| There was that. | ||
| And then they launched the Civil War where they took people who were seditious and treasonous and murdered them all. | ||
| So, and then you have like the Whiskey Rebellion. | ||
| I mean, if this was George Washington, he'd be riding at the front of the troops as they hunt you down. | ||
| We've never had a president having to deal with this level of sedition and treason from inside his own government. | ||
| And we've never had a condition in which the president of the United States seems incapable or unwilling to have his will enforced. | ||
| You know, maybe, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't figure it out. | ||
| I can't figure it out. | ||
| Trump is the guy. | ||
| He's the head executive. | ||
| He's the chief law enforcement officer. | ||
| He has the DOJ under his command. | ||
| Why is he not doing it? | ||
| And it may be that he thinks if I try to do this, I won't be listened to. | ||
| Which is a whole other gigantic issue that may require civil war to solve. | ||
| This is a mess. | ||
| Here's a full quote from Trump yesterday: It's called seditious behavior at the highest level. | ||
| Each one of these traitors to our country should be arrested and put on trial. | ||
| Their words cannot be allowed to stand. | ||
| We won't have a country anymore. | ||
| An example must be set. | ||
| President DJT. | ||
| Okay, who should we tell, Trump? | ||
| Who do you want us to tell? | ||
| Who should we let know? | ||
| Why are you saying this? | ||
| You are the one who is in charge of this. | ||
| Thank you for telling us you're the one who's supposed to do this. | ||
| Like, what are we doing here? | ||
| Each one of these people should be arrested and put on trial. | ||
| Well, who's in charge of that? | ||
| Oh, it's you? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, so what? | ||
| So what are we doing? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| And this is in response to another tweet saying, hang them, George Washington would. | ||
| You know, I mean, what are we supposed to say? | ||
| You know, the way I was thinking about it, and this is kind of an extreme example, but there's not a lot of speech that's illegal. | ||
| There's not a lot of speech that you can say that, you know, gets you thrown in prison for 20 years. | ||
| But what if these Democrat lawmakers were making a video, and one by one, they all held up an image of explicit child pornography. | ||
| And then Trump went, that's illegal. | ||
| That's 20 years in prison. | ||
| And then all the Democrats were going, oh, oh, Mike, he called to throw his opponents in prison for 20 years. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, because of the law they broke. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Did you see the breaking of the law? | ||
| Did you see the way they distributed child pornography? | ||
| That's illegal. | ||
| It's on the books. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| Calling for the lawful punishment as dictated by the law books, by the U.S. Code. | ||
| How is that objectionable? | ||
| You broke the law. | ||
| It was like, it's like they didn't even mean to set a trap for Trump, but they did. | ||
| But he fell into it anyway. | ||
| It's like they were tying a noose around their own necks and Trump swooped in to put his head through first. | ||
| They gave you, gift-wrapped with a bow on top, the perfect reason to punish them in any way, in any way. | ||
| Kick them off committees, censure them, charge them with sedition. | ||
| Mark Kelly, as I understand it, is still under the jurisdiction of military courts. | ||
| Court-martial him. | ||
| Heg Seth? | ||
| You have the right, the ability, and in fact, the obligation to do so. | ||
| So why isn't it being done? | ||
| If you're not going to do it, then don't go out say and say these people should be hanged. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Genuinely, I mean, it is beyond baffling. | ||
| They make a video. | ||
| The Democrat representatives make a video where they commit a felony, Where they look into the camera and tell the military and the spy agencies, disobey your orders. | ||
| We have your back. | ||
| And one would think, one might believe that this might be something that the Republicans seize on for a victory. | ||
| When your enemy delivers to you evidence that they've committed a felony, somehow, 24 hours later, we're the ones who are the bad guys. | ||
| Somehow, 24 hours later, we've taken this gift, this bullseye, just perfectly packaged, beautifully presented gift of six or seven Democrat representatives committing a felony on camera. | ||
| And yet 24 hours later, every headline, dread-linked on Drudge, Trump calls for murder. | ||
| Trump calls to hang his opponents. | ||
| Like, how about we have Biden back? | ||
| Can we have Biden back? | ||
| Can Trump just do the Biden thing? | ||
| Can Trump go lay on a beach in Delaware for a while? | ||
| Because I don't understand how you mess this up so badly. | ||
| I mean, talk about, you know, let's expand the metaphor we've been working with. | ||
| How I keep saying, you know, Republicans are like a baseball team that refuses to do anything but bunt. | ||
| They refuse to swing away. | ||
| They never take a chance. | ||
| And they still strike out anyway. | ||
| Then I had to update that to say it's like a t-ball team who will only bunt. | ||
| They can't even hit a ball that's sitting there waiting for them to be hit. | ||
| This is worse. | ||
| This is the Republicans walking up to the T-ball and somehow getting hit by the pitch and having to be out for the rest of the game with an injury. | ||
| That's where we're at at this point. | ||
| They deliver victories to us and somehow we come out the losers. | ||
| Trump calls for Dims to be executed. | ||
| Hang them. | ||
| That is the red link on Drudge. | ||
| Instead of a red link saying Democrats commit sedition, face 20 years in prison for crime on camera, the headline is, Trump calls to execute his enemies. | ||
| This is so, it's like unbelievable. | ||
| It's unbelievable how retarded Republicans are. | ||
| We are losing a game that the other team didn't even show up for. | ||
| Like, it doesn't even make sense. | ||
| It doesn't even make sense. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And it's like, I don't know. | ||
| You know, Trump is trying to. | ||
| All right, well, we'll stick with this topic for a second, but it's like, it's just an extension of everything else. | ||
| It's an extension of absolutely everything else the Trump administration has failed on this time around. | ||
| Let's go to clip 16 here. | ||
| This is one of the Democrat representatives who's saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, all we did was say illegal orders. | ||
| That's all we said. | ||
| And they're like, what illegal orders? | ||
| And he can't answer. | ||
| He's asked four different times what illegal orders he's talking about. | ||
| If he thinks they should, if he's going to go out on a limb like this, risk being charged for sedition, you'd think he'd have an answer. | ||
| He doesn't have an answer because there are no legal orders because he was calling for sedition. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Let's watch. | ||
| What law are you talking about that's being broken? | ||
| And then you said that he's implying that he might do something that they wouldn't want to uphold or follow through with in the future. | ||
| What are you talking about specifically? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I appreciate you asking him. | ||
| Well, number one, the protests at Lafayette Square in the first Trump administration where he said, can't you just shoot them? | ||
| Can't you just shoot them in the legs or something? | ||
| That's a direct quote. | ||
| And of course, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs. | ||
| That was not a military order. | ||
| That was a comment. | ||
| When that's coming from the President of the United States to your generals, don't you think that's a request? | ||
| I'm asking specifically right now what you're talking about. | ||
| Yeah, number two, he's also threatened to send the military into Chicago and other cities to quote go to war with those cities. | ||
| That is a very, very disturbing thing. | ||
| Number three, he's also alluded to sending troops to polling stations, which is actually a violation of U.S. law. | ||
| U.S. criminal law prohibits troops from going to polling stations. | ||
| And he's alluded to that. | ||
| So those are just one of many examples. | ||
| You're not talking about actual policy. | ||
| You're not talking about things that our members of our service members who we revere and respect are actually being asked to do. | ||
| So when you see this video on all over the place, when you see this video on social media, I think a lot of people scratch their heads and they say, what exactly are they talking about? | ||
| Are they talking about not allowing gunboats to make it to the United States carrying drugs? | ||
| I mean, is that what you're talking about? | ||
| Martha, here's a novel idea. | ||
| How about we actually prevent things from happening before they become a problem? | ||
| I think that's what they're trying to do. | ||
| No, what you're saying, what you're saying is we have to wait until there's a problem to respond to that problem. | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| Right? | ||
| As a military officer, what I think is important is we train people. | ||
| We give them information. | ||
| We prepare people for challenges coming down the pike. | ||
| That is what I did as a commander in the military. | ||
| That's what I'm doing now as we are standing by our troops. | ||
| We are reminding them of their obligation. | ||
| From the commander-in-chief that we are asking our military to carry out, are you objecting to? | ||
| This is very, very vague. | ||
| And it was so vague in this video. | ||
| Nobody, I don't think people could figure out what you guys were all talking about, honestly. | ||
| Martha, Donald Trump has made a series of very disturbing comments. | ||
| Again, that is actually literally more proof of their sedition. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because the things that he mentioned do not align with the statute I read earlier from the U.S. Code, 182387. | ||
| Or, you know, he's like, he's ordering, he's talking about people shooting him in the legs. | ||
| Doesn't make sense. | ||
| It's not even what, but yeah, that's again, if he's not, if he's not ordering troops to shoot POWs or fire on unarmed crowds, like if you are defending yourself against attack, it's not an unlawful order. | ||
| But the things he's suggesting that would be unlawful orders aren't unlawful orders. | ||
| If Trump, and again, it's like specifically denoted in the code where you are not allowed to disobey orders just because you think they might conflict with domestic law. | ||
| You're not a constitutional scholar as a soldier. | ||
| You're not equipped to be making decisions as to how far from the polling area you're allowed to be deployed. | ||
| When you're deployed somewhere, you're supposed to go there and do it. | ||
| And if it turns out to be illegal, you're not going to be in trouble. | ||
| You were following orders. | ||
| Lawful orders. | ||
| Or if they weren't lawful, it wasn't murdering innocent people. | ||
| Not that big of a deal. | ||
| You're not going to be the one in trouble. | ||
| The U.S. Code is explicit about this. | ||
| So if he's saying that his instruction to disobey orders has to do with soldiers themselves determining whether or not their deployment is in line with domestic U.S. law, then that is literally, as enumerated in the code, that is exactly what is meant by sedition. | ||
| That is exactly what is meant by urging soldiers to disobey, being illegal, is that exact thing. | ||
| You are not allowed to judge for yourself as a soldier whether your orders conflict with like vague civilian law. | ||
| Again, if it's torturing people, raping people, like, yes, okay, that is manifestly and obviously illegal. | ||
| You don't have to do that. | ||
| Something manifestly or obviously illegal about being deployed to an American city to put down a riot. | ||
| It's actually very legal. | ||
| But he's encouraging people in the statute and any attempt to get people to disobey orders that are lawful is sedition. | ||
| So that interview, he just reaffirmed that what he was doing was seditious. | ||
| That he wasn't talking about orders to kill innocent people or rape prisoners. | ||
| He was talking about legal orders. | ||
| He was telling soldiers to refuse legal orders in a way that is directly, directly addressed by the U.S. Code and says what he did was illegal. | ||
| So this interview is just more proof that what he did is absolutely 100% incontrovertibly sedition. | ||
| Steve Miller went off on this. | ||
| Clip number two. | ||
| Watch that. | ||
| It is insurrection, plainly, directly, without question. | ||
| And when you have one of the lawmakers on that video being unable to state in, as you say, lengthy cross-examination, a single so-called illegal order, it just proves the point. | ||
| It's a general call for rebellion from the CIA and the armed services of the United States by Democrat lawmakers saying that you have not only the right, but the duty and the obligation to defy orders of the commander-in-chief, that those who carry weapons in America's name should defy their chain of command and engage in open acts of insurrection, that the CIA, | ||
| the clandestine service, which isn't even legally authorized to operate in the United States, should engage in, again, acts of rebellion and insurrection. | ||
| These lawmakers should honestly resign in disgrace and never return to public office again for even daring to think, let alone to say these words and to say them proudly. | ||
| But it shows what a dangerous moment we're in. | ||
| We have seen the Democratic Party nurse the flames of violence and insurrection against the federal government for the last 10 months. | ||
| When you see this continuous campaign of violence against ICE officers and Border Patrol agents, when you see Democrat sanctuary politicians and Democrat sanctuary governors side with the rioters, side with the assaulters over federal law enforcement, and that spills even into juries and grand juries, when you see Democrat jurors engage in nullification to let off violent attackers who are engaging in physical violence, | ||
| physical assault against federal officers, this is a dangerous moment. | ||
| You have a political party, an organization, the Democrat Party, and their message is that any action, no matter how unlawful, no matter how dangerous, no matter how much it threatens constitutional order, is justified if it keeps Democrat policies in effect at any cost. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, because they keep getting away with it. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| He's literally. | ||
| What are we supposed to do here? | ||
| What are we supposed to do? | ||
| He's like listing off the number of crimes the Democrats have committed as if he's not in the White House, in the executive branch, charge of the DOJ. | ||
| Steve Miller's obviously not in charge of the EOJ, but he's got some pull, I think. | ||
| Again, just what it was. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| He's sitting there going, when you have, you know, they're encouraging people to attack ICE, and they're letting people who do attack ICE go without any charges. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, and every time you make the same outrage speech, and then nothing happens, and then they do it again. | ||
| And now they're getting worse because obviously that's what happens. | ||
| It starts with words from the extreme side, and then suddenly people towards the center are saying it. | ||
| Now you have congressmen and senators calling for an insurrection, calling for disobeying orders, calling for sedition, calling for an uprising against the lawful authorities in this country. | ||
| What do you think happens next if nothing is done? | ||
| He says he thinks they should resign in disgrace. | ||
| Well, I guess we'll wait for that then. | ||
| Is that the plan? | ||
| The plan is to take the Democrat Party, who is getting worse and worse and worse and more and more and more extreme, and it's to just pray that they see the light. | ||
| We're banking the future of our country on a come to Jesus Saul of Tarsus on the road to Damascus revelation. | ||
| That's what we're banking on. | ||
| We're banking on these soulless deep state monsters suddenly deciding that their own ideology is wrong and they're going to turn themselves in. | ||
| Why are you telling us this? | ||
| You're the ones in charge. | ||
| I mean, my God, it's like, it's like, we know. | ||
| We know. | ||
| We know. | ||
| We know they're all breaking all of the laws. | ||
| What are we supposed to do about it? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
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This is crazy. | |
| It's like, if you want us to do it, you've got to be explicit. | ||
| Do you want us to go hang them? | ||
| Is that like, that's the message I'm getting is the Trump administration is like showing us they are just incapable of doing it. | ||
| It's like it's becoming so egregious at this point that it's like, I mean, do we need to do this? | ||
| Obviously electing you wasn't enough. | ||
| Obviously winning the election and the House and the Senate on this exact topic, punishing the insurrectionists, punishing the sedition, punishing the manipulation from the deep state, from the CIA, from the FBI. | ||
| Clearly that wasn't enough. | ||
| What should we do? | ||
| I mean, my God, it is so, it's insulting. | ||
| Steve Miller gets up there and lists out like 15 crimes that they are letting the Democrats get away with. | ||
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What? | |
| I'm telling you, no. | ||
| Not just go back to the same metaphor over and over, but it's like, you ever met a bad parent who complains about the things their kids do and you want to just like grab them by the collar and be like, you are the parent. | ||
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It's your fault. | |
| Punish the children when they do something wrong. | ||
| It is your job. | ||
| It's just crazy. | ||
| It's just like, well, you know, first my son took all the toilet paper off the roll and flushed it down the toilet. | ||
| The toilet was all backed up. | ||
| And then he's got the hose in the house and he's spraying down the living room. | ||
| And then he's doing this and then he's doing this. | ||
| And it's like, okay, and what happens after he does this? | ||
| Oh, nothing. | ||
| He does it and I say, oh, this is bad. | ||
| You shouldn't have done that. | ||
| And then I clean it up for him and I give him a cookie. | ||
| Well, this is your fault then. | ||
| You are the one who has been empowered with the ability to punish unlawful behavior. | ||
| What are you doing listening to us, the series of unlawful behavior that you have let go unpunished? | ||
| It's just, again, just beyond infuriating. | ||
| And it just goes to everything Trump is doing. | ||
| It's like this. | ||
| So he tweets out this thing about Jeffrey Epstein. | ||
| He's like, I signed the Epstein release. | ||
| And it's like, great, but you also open a new investigation. | ||
| So obviously we're not going to actually get anything from it. | ||
| And I've got a video of that, but of Pam Bondi saying, well, you know, there's this new investigation by the SDNY. | ||
| So, you know, we might not be able to release all the. | ||
| It's like, okay, yeah, we know. | ||
| So that's the way it works. | ||
| He's still covering up for Epstein. | ||
| But he doesn't want everybody distracted by Epstein, even though he's the reason everybody's distracted by it. | ||
| Because he wants them focused on the victories. | ||
| There's a little problem with the victories. | ||
| They don't matter. | ||
| They don't count. | ||
| They don't mean anything if we don't get the real victory, which is the Democrats being abolished as a party, which is their sedition being punished, which is their flagrant violation of the law in your face, spitting at you and mocking you on national TV on a daily basis goes utterly unpunished. | ||
| You won't even remove money from their city. | ||
| Let alone arrest the people that are literally daring you to arrest them. | ||
| Not like, oh, they're really pushing the bounds. | ||
| They look in the camera and say, Trump wants to arrest me. | ||
| He can try. | ||
| If you don't solve that problem, nothing else matters, dude. | ||
| Like, who cares about all those other? | ||
| Like, okay, so he's like, big, beautiful tax cut bill. | ||
| Well, great. | ||
| I still, you know, can't afford anything, but I understand somebody's getting their tax cut. | ||
| Strong borders. | ||
| That's pretty good, but, you know, the problem is already done. | ||
| The damage was already done, right? | ||
| I put a bulletproof vest on you. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Well, we're bleeding out because we were shot 10 minutes ago. | ||
| No men in women's sports. | ||
| Again, another victory, but like, who cares? | ||
| Transgender for everybody, ending DEI, stopping Biden's record-setting inflation, lowering prices, biggest tax and regulation cut in history, ending eight wars, rebuilding our military, knocking out Iran's nuclear capability, getting trillions of dollars invested in the USA, creating the hottest country anywhere in the world, and even delivering a huge defeat to the Democrats in the recent shutdown disaster. | ||
| Well, they don't feel like it's a defeat. | ||
| And actually, at the very end of the shutdown, they swept the off-year elections. | ||
| So I wouldn't call that a victory. | ||
| In fact, most of these things I would debate whether they're real victories. | ||
| What I would say is that almost none of them have a tangible effect for the vast majority of Americans. | ||
| And none of them matter if you are just setting us up to deliver this wonderful economy. | ||
| You're going to deliver this peaceful world into the hands of the psychopaths that spent the last four years throwing all of our friends in prison when they never committed a crime and charging you for crimes that they made up and pulled out of their butts and decided to invent in order to go after you. | ||
| None of it matters if they're able to get back in charge and reignite the oppression and the abuse from the government that they did before you got into office. | ||
| None of this matters. | ||
| This is like a football team bragging about all of their stats, but they never put points on the board. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you have the longest, the most skilled kicker if you never put up a field goal. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you have the number one passing yards and the number one sacks and the number one forced turnovers on fourth down if you never get in the end zone to win a game. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| Great, brag about it all you want. | ||
| If you don't win the game, if you don't put points on the board, which in our case would be Democrats in prison, then nothing else matters. | ||
| All you're doing is setting up a brilliant, lovely economy for them to destroy as they throw all of us in prison despite having never committed a crime. | ||
| Because when they do commit crimes, you will not do anything but piss them off and bitch about it online. | ||
| We elected you to do something. | ||
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Why won't you do anything ever? | |
| God damn it. | ||
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Citizens come to me and tell me that something didn't seem right. | |
| Something didn't seem right in our local city council elections. | ||
| Something didn't seem right in our county from years ago to the 2020 election. | ||
| And they wanted answers. | ||
| Another voter contacted the office after learning from the state's ballot tracking system that their ballot had been turned in by someone else. | ||
| Election officials began comparing signatures and noted some of them appeared to be signed by the same person. | ||
| They launched an investigation, but not before three of the stolen ballots had already been counted. | ||
| Those ballots cannot be retrieved and the votes will count, but the three voters will receive new ballots. | ||
| This shows the resiliency of our process here in Colorado, that if somebody tries to do nefarious things, it will be discovered through our processes. | ||
| And I said, you know what? | ||
| If there's a there, there, we'll find it. | ||
| And I've made that pledge to the citizens of Mesa County and all over Colorado that the people elected me, not the Secretary of State. | ||
| Passwords for Colorado's voting systems were posted online for anyone to see for months. | ||
| If you knew where to look, Democratic Secretary of State Jenna Griswold's office apparently posted them online by accident. | ||
| Griswold's office found out last Thursday and had not told the county clerks who actually run elections. | ||
| Then the Colorado Republican Party went public today, demanding that Griswold secure those voting machines. | ||
| And it sounds like what you're saying is the only people investigating the actions of your office are your office. | ||
| Unless I'm mistaken, is there an outside agency that's investigating what happened in your office? | ||
| We unfortunately had a civil servant upload a spreadsheet with some passwords to voting equipment. | ||
| That is not the passwords needed to access the voting equipment. | ||
| You need two sets of passwords. | ||
| That is the full extent of it. | ||
| We disclose that immediately to federal agency CISA that has oversight of the nation's elections and we've been working with them. | ||
| Those bio's passwords, 670 of them from 63 counties out of the 64 counties in Colorado, have been on the public website for the Secretary of State, which means they were out there for anybody to grab. | ||
| She should be locked up and they should throw away the key and let me lose. | ||
| Yeah, we need a prisoner swap. | ||
| Tina Peters, former Mesa County clerk in Colorado, was convicted in 2024 on seven counts, including felony charges, for allowing unauthorized imaging of Dominion voting machines in 2021. | ||
| She argued that her actions were intended to preserve election records before a state-mandated software update that would have erased them. | ||
| Believing this was her duty to ensure transparency amid public concerns about the 2020 election, Peters acted without criminal intent and argued that the imaging did, in fact, reveal potential vulnerabilities in the voting system. | ||
| She was then sentenced to nine years in prison, a term that is clearly cruel and unusual and a violation of her Eighth Amendment rights as her offense sought no personal gain. | ||
| Federal prosecutors from the U.S. Department of Justice under the Trump administration filed a statement of interest in her federal habeas corpus petition expressing reasonable concerns about the state trial judge's repeated inflammatory remarks. | ||
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You are no hero. | |
| You abused your position and you're a charlatan who used and is still using your prior position in office to peddle a snake oil that's been proven to be junk time and time again. | ||
| Your lies are well documented and these convictions are serious. | ||
| President Trump has called her a political prisoner and demanded her release. | ||
| The Deputy Attorney General in the federal government is working, Todd Blanche has asked the Bureau of Prisons to find any way they can, legally, to move Tina Peters out of Colorado state prison and into federal prison. | ||
| Now, that could signal several things. | ||
| One, they're worried about her safety. | ||
| Two, that she might become a witness in some future federal investigation. | ||
| Therefore, having her in federal custody would be a part. | ||
| Peters remains incarcerated in a Colorado prison and housed among violent offenders despite being 70. | ||
| She is reportedly in poor health after she previously underwent treatment for lung cancer, resulting in the partial removal of one of her lungs, which has left her with chronic respiratory vulnerabilities. | ||
| Free Tina Peters today. | ||
| Releasing her pending full review would correct a miscarriage of justice, protect whistleblower-like conduct by election officials, and help to restore public confidence. | ||
| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is The War Room. | ||
| I'm your host, Harrison Smith, joined in studio by Patrick Byrne. | ||
| Thanks so much for being here with us, Patrick. | ||
| Harrison Smith, I know I've made the big time now that I've been on several times with this Jones fellow, but I've really made the big time. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| This is the center circle of the circus, I guess. | ||
| We're the ringleaders here. | ||
| I was just going a little bit crazy on Trump's failure to do anything about the sedition that's being advertised by the Democrats. | ||
| I'm a little bit frustrated. | ||
| Can you help explain this to me? | ||
| Why are we not seeing more action from the Trump DOJ? | ||
| Well, the DOJ, to some degree, it's better than the first term where they were actively, you just had like communists trying to block everything. | ||
| Now there are people who want to go along, but they are afraid that if they do, the word is that the Democrats are saying anyone who helps Trump and goes along will be hung for treason when we get power again. | ||
| So there are literally people who are Trumplican, moderate Trumplicans, but they're so afraid of actually doing things. | ||
| But at the top, the real problem is there's a fellow named Todd Blanche. | ||
| And I have this from multiple authorities from every direction. | ||
| And he may be a fine gentleman. | ||
| I don't mean to personally disparage him, but he's a lifelong Democrat until January of last year. | ||
| He defended Donald President Trump in that New York case. | ||
| I think it was the 30, the counts about the real estate and the loan that no one. | ||
| The Leticia James case. | ||
| That no one can even really explain what the crime is. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That was their crime. | ||
| And he lost. | ||
| So he's batting zero, but President Trump liked it. | ||
| But he did, and I don't know. | ||
| I'm not qualified to say, but he didn't do a bad job, they say. | ||
| So he's, so he's that President Trump. | ||
| And if I had, I would rate President Trump on my Alex always scorecard a 95%. | ||
| And then 5% is he sometimes makes these choices that make no sense. | ||
| And this fellow has been blocking from the beginning from multiple sources. | ||
| President Trump authorized setting up like initially a super group to dig into certain things. | ||
| It hung around waiting four months to get financing. | ||
| It turned out so, you know, President Trump thought he had done the right things. | ||
| He makes the right decision. | ||
| He signs the right pieces of paper. | ||
| He doesn't know that the deep state can change everything just by what they decide to fund, who they decide not to approve the transfer of until another two months go by. | ||
| They can just log damn everything. | ||
| So that finally got cut through. | ||
| That finally got cut through. | ||
| Tulsi got a lot more involved. | ||
| But so Pam Bondi's not being, she's a fine state's attorney general, but she's not up. | ||
| I hear she's living in Florida and that and takes a DOJ jet up to DC to appear at the Oval Office or the White House when there's an event. | ||
| And then she goes home and that doesn't even go to the DOJ sometimes. | ||
| So, and she's turned things. | ||
| What happens when people get put in into jobs that are say above their pay grade or above their experience level is sometimes the staff says, okay, we know, listen, we have this all under control. | ||
| You just take it easy and you work on your golf game if you want. | ||
| We have everything under control. | ||
| You just, and that's why nothing gets changed. | ||
| And so it's an unforced error to some degree, but and it could be corrected immediately. | ||
| Does he not realize that this is the case? | ||
| Like, I genuinely don't understand this because it does seem like it's the same thing as the first time around. | ||
| Everything I've heard, Todd Blanche's name comes up. | ||
| Pam Bondi is always talked about just like how you did, just not really pulling her weight. | ||
| But it almost reminds me of what's happening with Charlie Kirk assassination. | ||
| And you have his head of security going, I texted the police saying I'm worried about the roof and they said, we'll take care of it. | ||
| What am I supposed to do? | ||
| It's like, well, you're supposed to follow up. | ||
| You're supposed to, I mean, the buck stops with you. | ||
| It's not, to me, it's not a good excuse to say, well, I told them to do something and then they didn't. | ||
| What am I supposed to do? | ||
| It's like fire them and put in somebody who will. | ||
| I mean, we're running out of time, right? | ||
| He could say, Pam, I'd like you in my office on Monday morning at 10 a.m. with Tina Peters in hand. | ||
| And absent that, I'd like your resignation. | ||
| And Pam could get it done. | ||
| If she really wanted to, she could get it done. | ||
| There's a way it could be done like lickety split. | ||
| Just declare her under federal protection as a witness in a federal prosecution under protection. | ||
| The marshal shows up with that. | ||
| They're committing a felony if they don't surrender. | ||
| They do not get to litigate it. | ||
| They don't get to talk to a justice. | ||
| It's a felony if the warden doesn't surrender. | ||
| So they can send in a marshal with 200 Marines for all I care. | ||
| And, you know, the president has the authority to, if he wants to, he can federalize the prison. | ||
| All prisons in America, by law, he can federalize anyone he wants. | ||
| So, I mean, those are extreme examples. | ||
| But if the other side escalates, let's escalate higher. | ||
| We got to get in this mood. | ||
| The other side has escalated. | ||
| We don't respond. | ||
| Let's escalate whatever it takes. | ||
| He could federalize the prison by law and just take her out and then turn it back over. | ||
| But he's got people who are trying to do it in this Mamby-Pamby way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's not working. | ||
| It's not getting done. | ||
| I mean, I always... | ||
| She's dying. | ||
| She's dying. | ||
| She's seven years old. | ||
| She's got in a fight over a honey bun. | ||
| The prison is filled with trendy killers, you know. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they know who she is. | ||
| She knows them. | ||
| And she's seven years old. | ||
| And she got in a fight in a cafe line over a honey bun, I was told. | ||
| And she's currently got lungs filling up. | ||
| She had lung cancer and she thinks she has it again. | ||
| She's got lungs filling up with fluid. | ||
| And the warden is like giving one aspirin per day or something crazy. | ||
| And she's begging. | ||
| They got one glass of water. | ||
| They wouldn't give her another glass to take it with and things like this. | ||
| Crazy stuff. | ||
| Yeah, it's brutal. | ||
| And as far as I've seen, I've studied the case. | ||
| I mean, they have nothing on it. | ||
| I mean, there's no reason why she should even be in prison, let alone being treated the way she is. | ||
| Yeah, the cover-up is the prosecution. | ||
| That's what we've learned that they do. | ||
| Same with Stephanie Lambert and Matt DiPerna up in Michigan. | ||
| When they have nothing else to do and you have them dead to rights, they prosecute you on Kafka-esque charges, charges worthy of a Kafka novel. | ||
| What is Tina, the county recorder whose job is to protect the records from corruption, protected the records from corruption and contributed to saving the United States by doing so? | ||
| And it's obscene a year into this presidency and Trump's people can't carry this out. | ||
| This is a 24-hour task. | ||
| Yeah, and it exactly. | ||
| It's a 24-hour task. | ||
| It should be done sort of the instant that Trump decides it should be done. | ||
| And I guess he's just not making that decision. | ||
| And then when it comes to these, you know, five or six Democrat lawmakers making a video saying don't obey your orders to the military, like, why is he tweeting out that they should be hung, but they won't, but they aren't arrested. | ||
| It's like, why aren't they arrested? | ||
| Why is he tweeting about it, but not doing it? | ||
| Because they did not explicitly say, I hate to be a Philadelphia lawyer about this. | ||
| They did not explicitly say do not obey any specific order. | ||
| Their answer would be, look, what we're just reminding of, in general, the principle is if you're an officer of the military, you do not obey unconstitutional or illegal orders. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Obviously, what they're saying is Trump is taking, see, what we're going through is a Bolshevik revolution, and Trump to defeat it has to do something muscular. | ||
| And what they're going to do is paint anything he does that's the least bit muscular is, oh, this is a, you know, totalitarian taking. | ||
| No, they're the extremists. | ||
| We just have to keep reminding them they're the extremists. | ||
| And so I have a response. | ||
| I just gave on Alex's show, and I mean it in the same perfectly legal way, a message to the enlisted and the young officers who report to any generals who decide not to follow President Trump's orders and when it's clear that they're the ones who are doing something illegal and unconstitutional and signing that and signing against the Constitution. | ||
| And that is, my advice is in that situation, shoot them in the face. | ||
| You can shoot them in the face and no one will care. | ||
| And this is not meant to be a threat. | ||
| I don't mean it. | ||
| I mean it's the same metaphysical sense that they meant that tape last night, what they meant, that if this happens, then do this. | ||
| I'm not encouraging anyone right now to go shoot a general in the face. | ||
| Just a general who follows, who takes any woke advice and disrupts the Constitution. | ||
| Please shoot him in the face. | ||
| The citizens will thank you. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I was reading the U.S. Code and it doesn't give a lot of leeway. | ||
| I mean, if you're encouraging people to question their orders, I mean, I think that's seditious behavior. | ||
| I mean, you're encouraging them to even merely question them and put it through their own logic. | ||
| Do you think this is legal? | ||
| If not, don't obey. | ||
| I mean, that is seditious as far as I can tell. | ||
| It's all by implication, though. | ||
| It's all by implication. | ||
| There's not saying there's no particular order. | ||
| They're saying don't, they're getting him to question, but they would say, look, it's all implication. | ||
| And this is just training officers get an officer school. | ||
| If you were ever given an unlawful order, don't obey it. | ||
| That's all correct. | ||
| But, you know, we know what they really mean, but it's all by implication. | ||
| They can't be prosecuted for that successfully. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, they, but they could try, couldn't they? | ||
| I mean, that's what I want to see. | ||
| It's like, okay, let's say, you know, you arrest them, you charge them with sedition. | ||
| They successfully defend themselves and are declared not guilty. | ||
| At least you put them through it. | ||
| At least you tried. | ||
| At least you made them go to court. | ||
| You put them in the handcuffs. | ||
| You took the mug shot. | ||
| Like to say that they deserve hanging and then not even fine them is worse than doing nothing at all, in my opinion. | ||
| And again, reading the- They probably want him to do that. | ||
| They probably want him to do that, knowing that they probably couldn't be convicted. | ||
| They'd raise, yeah, it doesn't matter if the legal bills are 10 million. | ||
| They'd have it tomorrow morning through one of their, you know, through a Soros NGO or something. | ||
| And so they probably want him to do just what you're saying. | ||
| Because they want, it's all about now painting. | ||
| They know that he's creating a more and more muscular response. | ||
| And it's up to them to try to paint it like he's the totalitarian rather than he's the man responding to a totalitarian revolution. | ||
| But it seems like if the revolution is coming, which I believe it is, I think you're right. | ||
| We are in the midst of a Bolshevik revolution. | ||
| And I think we know the dates that they're planning. | ||
| I mean, it's going to be May Day, 2028, and they're organizing that and deciding on that. | ||
| And it seems like when you're faced with something like that, you can either do nothing and let them take over or whatever you do has to be so muscular that it eliminates the threat and it has to be so overwhelming that it doesn't matter the screeching that they make. | ||
| They're in jail. | ||
| So let them screech. | ||
| What Trump, it seems like he's doing is he's always doing these half measures. | ||
| He's always kind of stepping his toe in the muscular thing. | ||
| And that just empowers them even more. | ||
| So I think I would so much prefer that these people were in handcuffs today that we get to watch, just like Roger Stone, we get to watch the FBI kick in their door at five in the morning and haul them away and charge them with something, even if they get away with it. | ||
| I'd rather that than him tweeting about it, right? | ||
| The tweeting does look kind of weak and ineffective at this point. | ||
| He should be above them. | ||
| If it's bothering him enough that he's got to tweet about it, then maybe. | ||
| But, you know, they probably want him to do something like that. | ||
| It would just help them enormously in painting him as this is what all dictators do. | ||
| They become so prickly that if you say anything, even questioning anything, he's having you arrested by jack boots in the middle of the night. | ||
| And of course, but I don't think he should be involved at all. | ||
| I think the DOJ should just go and arrest them. | ||
| And when he's asked about it, you can say, look, that was a decision made by the lawyers and they broke the law. | ||
| So we arrest them. | ||
| What are we going to do? | ||
| Oh, how about we investigate those people? | ||
| And who are they tied to? | ||
| And who are they funding? | ||
| I bet it's a bunch of NGOs tied to Soros. | ||
| Just call me Kreskin. | ||
| But that's what it's going to turn out to be. | ||
| Yeah, this is very much on the board. | ||
| This is very much in the gray area. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It's very much in the gray area. | ||
| They did it probably hoping he's going to prosecute, which helps them in their mission. | ||
| They're out in 24 hours on bond because they own the judiciary as well. | ||
| So they're out. | ||
| They got all the money they need to fight it. | ||
| They probably rich off book deals immediately off it. | ||
| And it helps them paint Trump as this evil, prickly dictator. | ||
| So a lot of things like this backfire. | ||
| We got to sort of remember they play Information War too. | ||
| In fact, they play it primarily. | ||
| So what should he do? | ||
| I mean, they make a video saying disobey orders. | ||
| And they say unlawful. | ||
| But again, reading the actual code, you're not allowed to disobey unlawful order. | ||
| It has to be manifestly unlawful. | ||
| It has to be like killing innocent people or raping prisoners. | ||
| Like if it's not something like that, you know, and then the guy goes on, you know, they're asked, like, what laws, what, you know, orders do you mean? | ||
| And he starts saying, you know, things that he thinks that they should object to. | ||
| And they're all in the code, things that you're not allowed to object to. | ||
| When he's like, oh, you know, well, if he's ordering them to deploy to, you know, polling sites, that would be against the law. | ||
| And in the code, it says you cannot object because of a soldier's subjective interpretation of civilian law. | ||
| So it's like, so here he is saying the guy who made the video says, here's what I mean. | ||
| And he lists things that are in abject violation of the U.S. code. | ||
| So, I mean, what do you do? | ||
| If they're calling on soldiers to disobey. | ||
| Well, just let me know, none have. | ||
| And my understanding is this could actually be a favor. | ||
| What he should do is anyone who goes who does and let it be on something fun. | ||
| It's a quick x-ray of who we need to get rid of in the military. | ||
| And he's got the authority to do it. | ||
| And he should just everyone. | ||
| So if they start doing this, once they start doing this over the orders he's given that are clearly within his powers, like the ICE powers within the United States, If they start acting that way, then there's actual crimes being committed, like specific crimes for which they can be arrested. | ||
| So this may actually help us. | ||
| If people go along with it, it lets us find the, I'm told that there are Obamaite social justice warriors across the federal bureaucracy, especially the DOJ, but across the federal bureaucracy. | ||
| There's all these people who got in by being, they got in and rose to the top, not by being good at whatever that department was, but they got in because they went to Brown. | ||
| Their dad gave a political donation. | ||
| They got some appointment as a third deputy under assistant or something. | ||
| And then they burrowed in. | ||
| And there's this, it was in all American history was this, there was a taboo of being taking a political appointment over the bureaucracy and then taking a job within. | ||
| But about 30 years ago, that taboo got broken. | ||
| And now there's this whole couple thousand people who have burrowed in. | ||
| It's called Ram Spec, Ram specking your way in. | ||
| And they got to the top not by being very good within that department, but because they're political appointees and they're weenies. | ||
| Not all of them. | ||
| I've met one or two that I, in my life that I think were fine. | ||
| But in general, I think there's a bunch of those guys and men and women. | ||
| And they're like in the Department of Labor. | ||
| And they get into the groups that are overseeing unions and stuff like this. | ||
| And they get in by hook or by crook, not by being good at anything in particular. | ||
| And that's the woke bureaucracy that has to leave. | ||
| That'd be easy to find. | ||
| And I think you should place them all with military men, men and women, retired or not, and rebuild the DOJ out of the JAGCOR and of people who understand the Constitution and haven't been polluted. | ||
| Well, we're kind of running out of time to do that, right? | ||
| I mean, this is my frustration. | ||
| I was just going off because he lists all of these accomplishments that he has. | ||
| And the economy is doing better and he's got the tariffs going and the border is closed. | ||
| And these things are nice. | ||
| But we've been invaded by 40 million people and immigration is, you know, the deportations are not nearly high enough. | ||
| And if he doesn't do enough to actually substantially damage the Democratic Party, then he's just building up a great economy to hand over to them so they can get rich while they throw us all in prison. | ||
| So it's like, you know, what I was saying earlier is it's like you can give me all the stats about how far your quarterback can throw and how, you know, how many sacks you got this season. | ||
| But if you never won a game, if you didn't put points on the board, it really, none of it, none of the other stuff matters. | ||
| Like to me, the big thing is our country is being taken over. | ||
| We are literally being put through a Bolshevik revolution that is sort of like point by point following the trajectory of the Bolshevik Revolution and the 1918 German Revolution. | ||
| And so it's like, that's the thing that we need movement on. | ||
| And that's the one thing I'm not seeing any success on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I'm distressed as you are there. | ||
| I know that they're working in that direction. | ||
| I know they have a lot. | ||
| I'm sure you've heard about the, well, there's a lot of things going on where there's now the upper reaches of government know that we were correct all along. | ||
| And I've said this publicly many times now. | ||
| There's 72 nations have had their elections manipulated out of Venezuela. | ||
| We now have the people who took part. | ||
| We've got everything. | ||
| And Uncle Sam has digested, digested them. | ||
| And they, so they, it's, it's probably so much fruit they don't know where to begin picking. | ||
| But, you know, there have been indictments. | ||
| They did, they indicted SmartMatic. | ||
| That's, I think, the first in a chain of people to be indicted. | ||
| I remember there's already people that have been picked up. | ||
| There's, you know, there's a, there's a Venice Cuban spy that was picked up named Ranu Rocha, who got 15 years. | ||
| It's unfortunately, they're treating this like it's a normal espionage or counter espionage endeavor. | ||
| And it isn't. | ||
| This is World War III. | ||
| We're in World War III. | ||
| And the president, this does drive me crazy. | ||
| He's got all kinds of powers. | ||
| What General Flynn has let me know and that I've seen and that I saw up close in that somewhat notorious meeting of December 2020, was his people don't advise him about, he doesn't fully understand the range of powers he has and they don't let him know, and that was happening then. | ||
| You know. | ||
| Right now there's this discussion about like, could he use national Guard or something the police stations? | ||
| Well, Barack Obama signed an executive order. | ||
| He could just take that executive order and dust it off and re-sign it and use Barack Obama's language and just do all the things that need. | ||
| Barack Obama signed an executive order that if a president finds there's foreign interference and there has been foreign interference he can do anything he can do, you know, he can rerun an election. | ||
| He can cancel it. | ||
| He can rerun it. | ||
| He can order an investigation. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| So is that based on the Russia collusion hoax? | ||
| Well uh, in 2015, Obama signed an executive order that gave him all that power, which is why in 2020 we, general Flynn and I, were in his office, you know. | ||
| Do you know about that weird meeting that occurred that we kind of snuck in? | ||
| I don't, I don't recall that. | ||
| No no no, you've got a chance to watch the story? | ||
| Yeah no it's, but it's in the movie The Enemy Within. | ||
| But we got him anyway. | ||
| So we had this four and a half hour meeting with the president, december 18th 2020, where we had him talked into doing what needed to be done, but then his lawyers showed up and his lawyers put the kibosh and it became this four-hour argument. | ||
| But we thought we had won. | ||
| Then we walked out and Rudy Giuliani told him, you uh you're, if you do Burn's plan, you're going to go to, we're all going to go to prison. | ||
| But that plan was simply looking at. | ||
| Obama had said, if there that that, if they're, if the president finds there's been foreign interference, the president can order this wide range of options and the least important, the least intrusive of which was a quick investigation. | ||
| So we were saying, mr president and this is december 18th 2020 here's these things the U.s government has put out in the last two months about all these things getting hacked and how deeply this huge whirlwind of cyber hacking against us. | ||
| And they've announced that all these companies were hacked the CIA, the Dharma so, based on that, why don't you just trigger that enough to order a quick investigation and go to, for example, in Georgia there's a hundred, you know there's still haven't gotten to the bat. | ||
| There's 160 000 ballots in Georgia, where there's, I think, a dozen affidavits that say the same basic thing that they're. | ||
| They're mail-in ballots that were never folded. | ||
| They're 93 for Biden and every vote is filled in with a perfect little circle like right computer did it. | ||
| For five years we've been fighting to get that and no one could get it. | ||
| The candidates can't get it. | ||
| This, the state legislature couldn't get it, the judge ordered it to be given over, and now I mean they've tied it up for five years. | ||
| So we always thought we had transparency because the laws said citizen, but it turns out that if you have, and that, if that, they knew that we were going to organize when we saw this fake election and do something about it, and they had it all prepared. | ||
| What does it call it something? | ||
| 65 group, 65 or something? | ||
| Any lawyer who picked up a pen to help us found himself facing a disbarment. | ||
| Right, it was evil, it was evil, and so I mean they had a plan. | ||
| That's why These law enforcement people, they don't really care about justice or they just want the process is the punishment. | ||
| They knew that as soon as we started to fight it, they could scare our lawyers off. | ||
| And almost every lawyer in America was scared off. | ||
| See, that's the thing. | ||
| I mean, it seems like the problem is so ubiquitous. | ||
| The control mechanisms or the blackmail networks, I mean, whatever it is that keeps all this stuff in control, it's like it's just not, it just doesn't make sense to keep playing by these rules that they get to ignore and that we have to adhere to. | ||
| So, you know, I'm just looking forward in the future, and it's like the Republican Party is being destroyed. | ||
| The economy is not working for normal people. | ||
| They're going to go over to the socialists and the communists that are promising things to them. | ||
| There's obviously this like color revolution going on. | ||
| And, you know, Trump is bragging about whatever, tariffs or whatever. | ||
| And it's like, dude, our whole country is under attack relentlessly from every different direction. | ||
| And we're still letting judges block things. | ||
| Yeah, I think he should use the military. | ||
| I think that he should use the military in all kinds of ways. | ||
| He's got power to our court system, which clearly see the state level how corrupted. | ||
| As I'm sure you saw the follow the shenanigans in Arizona the last five years. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Turns out no one has any right, any standing to question anything. | ||
| The candidate doesn't, doesn't before the election, doesn't during the election, doesn't after the election. | ||
| The citizens don't, the citizens' groups don't. | ||
| No one has any right to look into anything the bureaucrats said. | ||
| That's what took five years and millions of dollars of court fees to find out. | ||
| In Georgia, in Atlanta, in Arizona, no one has the right to look into anything. | ||
| So, and the first rule we teach overseas is an election without transparency has zero. | ||
| You have to assume it's fake because you can't actually prove it's not. | ||
| More on the other side. | ||
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| So we were talking about just sort of the frustration. | ||
| And I felt bad. | ||
| I was sitting in the brag. | ||
| I'm like, I feel like I'm like grilling you or like yelling at you, but I'm just so frustrated with our lack of movement here. | ||
| And I'm frustrated at the judges stepping in to stop it. | ||
| We were just talking about this article. | ||
| Trump administration agrees not to paint Eisenhower building before 2026. | ||
| The Trump administration wanted to paint the Eisenhower executive building. | ||
| It's a 137-year-old building. | ||
| I guess a judge stepped in and told him that they can't. | ||
| And it's just like, what are these judges doing? | ||
| Why are they interfering everywhere? | ||
| It's become such an insult to the rule of law and the constitutional order. | ||
| They're a bunch of snobs. | ||
| The whole woke left worldview is that they're a bunch of snobs and their decision-making should supply. | ||
| And they're very much offended by we have a president who believes in the constitutional order. | ||
| So they just have decided to thwart him the most ridiculous ways at every turn. | ||
| All of those judges should be impeached and gotten rid of. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| They just show our judiciary has really let us down. | ||
| I don't know if it can be, that's why I'd rather actually like Trump turned the investigation. | ||
| Trump has the authority to turn things over, even the investigations and the trials over to military courts, which are not, which have not been captured. | ||
| But they're trying to. | ||
| And of course, the vaccine mandate and stuff. | ||
| And they purge the military, you know, under Biden for, you know, white supremacists where they're like, if you have a Gadson flag, you know, that symbol of your white supremacist. | ||
| So, I mean, I think they recognize the threat of the military. | ||
| Why do you think Trump is not doing that? | ||
| Because, you know, I get that he wants to exhaust all of the civilian possibilities. | ||
| I understand that he is trying really hard not to look like a tyrant, not to be a tyrant and to do things by the book. | ||
| But like at a certain point, we got to get this done. | ||
| We got to just do stuff. | ||
| And I, you know, what is that point? | ||
| Well, it's when they cross the line, not when they talk about crossing the line, not when they, well, they giggle about crossing the line, when they actually disobey a freaking constitutional legal order. | ||
| That's crossing the line. | ||
| But I agree that was that, but that was bait for him to do. | ||
| I don't want him to fall for a trap like that. | ||
| Believe me, they're going to cross the line. | ||
| They're going to keep escalating. | ||
| And, you know, what's totally fair to do is to go after these people have crossed into terrorism at points, and it ties back to Soros. | ||
| Go after Rico. | ||
| Go after him with Rico. | ||
| And, you know, all the violence that they commit. | ||
| Just like I was just on Alex's show talking a lot about Israel. | ||
| The Antifa of Israel is funded by not just George Soros, but our State Department. | ||
| It was. | ||
| It's Tony Blinken, those guys. | ||
| The U.S. taxpayer was funding the Antifa. | ||
| It's now called Kaplan Force or something, you should speak, of Israel. | ||
| I mean, these guys just want to overthrow all the countries and replace us with some global orders. | ||
| Yeah, it's all globalism, isn't it? | ||
| At the end of the day, Trotskyism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Soros is at the heart of everything. | ||
| Like I was, I was, even I was kind of shocked when they came out with some Rushigate material early on and it showed that a leader of the Soros group was one of the main kingpins, sort of helping to spread all the information around and coordinate everything. | ||
| And it's like, here's this guy, George Soros. | ||
| Is he even an American citizen? | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| I mean, he wasn't born here. | ||
| He's an immigrant. | ||
| I don't even know if he lives here. | ||
| So he probably lives on a yacht somewhere. | ||
| But it's like he has just been a menace. | ||
| And to the point where like, you know, my friends are dead because he put in a prosecutor that refuses to crack down on crime. | ||
| Crime's out of control. | ||
| And Jamie White gets murdered in Austin. | ||
| Like that was a direct consequence of George Soros' activities here. | ||
| And yet he's not arrested. | ||
| He passes it down to his son. | ||
| So that would be another thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why aren't there Ricochet? | ||
| Where are the RICO charges? | ||
| Yeah, all that could be done with an aggressive enough DOJ or it could be done through the military in about a week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| I mean, there's been such insolence. | ||
| And I'm told that law schools have gotten so awful. | ||
| Nobody actually learns anything. | ||
| It's just like you do what's fair. | ||
| What you get out there as a lawyer, you do what's fair. | ||
| And you remember Biden was appointing these people to the federal judiciaries, the judiciary, that were just shocking in their trial. | ||
| I remember one, I felt bad for him. | ||
| He was so humiliated. | ||
| This guy from Denver, just a federal judge in Denver for four years, getting appointed to the federal district court. | ||
| He may have been a state judge, but in a criminal court for four years. | ||
| And they asked him, like one of the senators, Kennedy or somebody, asked him some very basic question of criminal law. | ||
| Like what is. | ||
| This is a Brady violation. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| Yeah, because it's like if you've ever watched a documentary about true crime, you probably know what a Brady violation is. | ||
| And this guy didn't know. | ||
| Didn't know. | ||
| And that's a judge who's been overseeing criminal cases for four years. | ||
| Every person who ever went through their courtroom probably should get a misdraw. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Just you had a judge who didn't know anything. | ||
| And it's, you know, they get taught crazy stuff in law schools. | ||
| If they even go to law school. | ||
| Remember, it was the quote-unquote judge who let out the murderer of Irina Zaruska, and it was discovered she'd never even. | ||
| She wasn't even a lawyer. | ||
| She'd never even been to law school. | ||
| She got to college? | ||
| She was a judge. | ||
| I assume she went to college, but I don't even know. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And yeah, that's what if you go back and look at. | ||
| I might prefer if she hadn't gotten to college, actually. | ||
| She might be better. | ||
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| Well, what you go and you look at these judges, and it's like half of the judges or more, I think like 75% of the judges in D.C. are all foreign-born. | ||
| They just like they come over to America when they're 20. | ||
| They get a job at an NGO, you know, helping to circumvent immigration law for 10 years, then they become a judge. | ||
| And it's like, these are literal activists. | ||
| Like, people don't understand when you say activist judge, you literally mean they are professional activists who at some point Obama or Biden taps on the head, puts a robe on, and now they're a judge. | ||
| But they're literal activists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They didn't become a judge to become an activist. | ||
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They were activists who became judges. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's what you're teaching them, I guess. | ||
| Well, remember that 200 of them got appointed by Biden's auto pen. | ||
| So there's no evidence of any intent by, you know, as they reveal, and I hope that eventually, see, I think that what is warranted is muscular action, but Trump should not, President Trump should not lead it. | ||
| Get the public so they are demanding the muscular action, which they would do if he would reveal. | ||
| They would just reveal a whole bunch of stuff. | ||
| I know that they now know for certain. | ||
| And, you know, and but the CIA is against it being revealed. | ||
| They have been against this whole process. | ||
| But I know now, know now that the upper levels of government, everybody knows the truth about Venezuela and everything else. | ||
| And once people really get it from official authorities, what has been put together, people will be demanding muscular action. | ||
| I think this war is more the most necessary war since the revolution and the civil war. | ||
| These people, they didn't just commit an act of work against us, Cuba, Venezuela. | ||
| They committed an act of conquest. | ||
| They conquered us. | ||
| And they conquered us, installed a dope who opened the city gates, let in 10 to 20 million military-aged men. | ||
| And the last November election was just putting the padlock on the dungeon door. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| It's a fluke. | ||
| We got out of that with a lucky uppercut. | ||
| That's never going to happen again. | ||
| And we have to not forget what it is we now know, who emerged in our country. | ||
| These crazy people emerged in our country in the last, you know, since 2020. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I know you have a video of that. | ||
| Guys, do we have that 33-second video? | ||
| This is a Venezuelan immigrant during coming into the U.S. | ||
| And why don't you read the, since it's in Spanish, why don't you read the subject? | ||
| I'll read the subtitles, crew. | ||
| Let's go to that video now. | ||
| So this is a Venezuelan immigrant that was caught on video sort of bragging about what their intentions are. | ||
| Let's watch. | ||
| He says, let's back it up to the beginning. | ||
| You know how we used to stand in line? | ||
| Back it up to the very beginning. | ||
| I think this might be the beginning. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So he says, you know how we used to stand in line when we went to the grocery store back in the day? | ||
| That's what these shelters are like now, bro. | ||
| I guess the starvation. | ||
| As if they had some chicken or some stuff like that. | ||
| They're packed full of Venezuelans, full of gangsters just like me with an honest face like me. | ||
| Look, that's the ones you will catch on the subway and you're done out cold. | ||
| Fall asleep and find out. | ||
| In just two years, the U.S. will be finished, formerly known as. | ||
| So he's basically like, we're the ones that'll slit your throat on the subway. | ||
| That's the car coming up. | ||
| You heard straight killers. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not the first thing I've seen like that, right? | ||
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| That was done on purpose. | ||
| And Maduro came out and said, I'll give when Trump came to power, said, look, we were told to do this. | ||
| Biden sent his FBI to meet us in Panama. | ||
| We met him in Panama. | ||
| We have all the records, which means I think they taped it or videotaped it, which is the kind of thing they do. | ||
| We have all the records. | ||
| We'd love to bring it to you, President Trump, and show you. | ||
| Biden told us to do that. | ||
| So this was an inside-outside strategy. | ||
| The revolutionaries were inside the government. | ||
| They got to the point they took it over. | ||
| They knew they didn't have the domestic muscle. | ||
| Their barista latte boys weren't up to the, so they needed to bowl 10 to 20 million of them in. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Well, and they literally did. | ||
| I mean, it was to the point where they were sending planes down to South American countries to pick people up to fly them in. | ||
| I mean, it was outrageous. | ||
| Rapist killers. | ||
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Right. | |
| In Venezuela, 5,500 rapist killers in Pakistan. | ||
| Every rapist was let out of prison and got a ticket to Panama. | ||
| And that's how you got to Panama and it got into this train. | ||
| And it's not, I mean, 10 to 20 million came. | ||
| It's not 10 to 20 million killers, but I bet 250,000 to 500,000 are guys like that. | ||
| Enough. | ||
| Enough to warrant severe action, very, very, you know, intense action. | ||
| And then you've got, I mean, then you've got legal immigration being such a big issue. | ||
| I don't know if you've seen this story. | ||
| It's been revealed that Somalians in Minnesota have been using fraudulent autism Medicare claims to fund the Somali terror group Al-Shabaab with claims rising from $3 million in 2018 to $399 million in 2023, effectively making Minnesota taxpayers the group's largest funders. | ||
| So the Muslims, the Somalis in Minnesota figured out, oh, you can just say your kid's autistic and the government will send you money and then they can just forward that money to the terrorists in Somalia. | ||
| So they're literally just funneling American taxpayer money to the terrorists overseas. | ||
| And it's like, we invited these people in and have given them homes and this is how they repay us. | ||
| It's worked out poorly. | ||
| It's worked out poorly. | ||
| You did with any guests who have overstayed their welcome. | ||
| Certainly if you catch them pilfering the spoons, it's time to get rid of them. | ||
| So everybody, that's like, and it turns out half of them cheated on their immigration. | ||
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Right. | |
| Everyone who cheated, just this is not a normal time. | ||
| This is a world like World War II where we have to stand up and get strict and severe about things. | ||
| We're being overthrown. | ||
| We could easily defeat it. | ||
| We could easily still defeat it if we got organized. | ||
| I tell you, doing Venezuela, overthrowing Venezuela and getting the rightful president of Venezuela sitting in the oval office down there, or president's palace down there, would eliminate a lot of evil in this hemisphere because it turns out that a lot of evil is actually derivative of the Cuba-Venezuela juncture. | ||
| That's what Americans need to get, that they've had trouble groking. | ||
| We laugh at the idea that Cuba and Venezuela could do anything. | ||
| They're these banana republics. | ||
| How could they hurt us? | ||
| Their armies may be banana republic armies, but they're pros on espionage and subversion. | ||
| They are pros. | ||
| I mean, they come from the Soviet Union. | ||
| They're derivative. | ||
| And China is really their, you know, the Venezuelan paymaster now. | ||
| So the point is they're very, very sophisticated and good. | ||
| And Cuba is very good on intelligence. | ||
| And they have all kinds of - we know that there's about 20 spies. | ||
| We know of 20 spies penetrated in the government from Cuba. | ||
| And one of them has been arrested, but there's lots more that need to be arrested. | ||
| Why wouldn't they arrest them if they know they're there? | ||
| Their standard of what they can arrest somebody for is maybe, you know, we may have had conversations. | ||
| I've had conversations out of the country with people about somebody that they've not yet had that conversation. | ||
| So, but, you know, anyway, we know a whole pack of people. | ||
| It's going to come out. | ||
| There's a whole pack of people that sort of cross paths with each other in different places in Latin America within our government who are evil. | ||
| Yeah, well, it just seems like they'd be stupid not to. | ||
| I mean, it's like the Chinese sending over 10,000 people. | ||
| It's like, yeah, if I was China, I'd be sending people over too. | ||
| Oh, my number one geopolitical enemy has open borders and doesn't check who's coming in. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Send 10,000 of our best undercover agents. | ||
| Go over there and you see them standing sort of at attention, looking like military guys being welcomed into our country. | ||
| So it's like, yeah, of course. | ||
| Of course, if they open up the borders, if I was Venezuela, I don't want to pay for a bunch of rapists and murderers in my prison. | ||
| Ship them to the U.S. They'll take care of them. | ||
| They weaponize it. | ||
| You know, in the 30s, it turns out that in that whole, you know, there was a communist ring that was in the U.S. government claimed, and that was, you know, the whole Alger Hiss and Whitaker Chamber stuff. | ||
| Well, what came out, there was in particular one branch of the Communist Party who's in the U.S. whose mission was to infiltrate the government. | ||
| And the leader was a guy named Peter Ware, and it was called the Ware Group, W-A-R-E, Peter Ware. | ||
| Well, it turns out Joe Biden, if you look at the lists of these fake, I mean, these non-government addresses that Hillary and Obid, turns out they all have been doing this. | ||
| Joe Biden has used the address Peter Ware, something or other. | ||
| He made a reference to him. | ||
| That's his alter ego, the communist, the name of the leader of the communist infiltration of the government in the 30s. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Peter Ware. | ||
| Yeah, and it sort of goes back that far, right? | ||
| I mean, we're sort of dealing with the same type of infiltration that we've been dealing with since communism came about in the early 1900s. | ||
| We're sort of stuck in this. | ||
| I guess we need a new McCarthy hearing of some sort. | ||
| Well, it's going to be all proven true. | ||
| I mean, it's all over, but whatever the repercussions are. | ||
| But the investigation phase, as far as I'm done, a grand jury could get active anytime they want. | ||
| I understand that in Florida, there's a grand jury being impaneled that has to do that started. | ||
| There needs to be somebody. | ||
| We have to start treating this. | ||
| There was a point when we tried to fight terrorism with a bunch of different units. | ||
| Like it was a legal problem. | ||
| It was a defense problem. | ||
| The State Department had its public relations, all that stuff. | ||
| And then eventually they started treating it as one unified counter-terrorism problem. | ||
| And there was the evolution of the National Counterterrorism Center. | ||
| We have to understand we are in a Bolshevik revolution, and there needs to be a group of people within the government who understand that and know what Trotsky and Neotrotsky are and understand the techniques of this kind of movement warfare and have access to, and that's the kind of way Trump came in, trying to establish things like this. | ||
| And he really, for a long time, got defeated by the deep state. | ||
| That kind of stuff has all finally occurred. | ||
| I won't say anymore, but all the right things are happening. | ||
| But it took seven months longer than it needed, six months longer than it needed to. | ||
| Well, it seems like that'd be the right thing to do because you're talking about all these holdovers and sort of the legacy systems Trump has to deal with. | ||
| Seems like the best thing to do would be create a whole new branch of government, have create a whole new operation. | ||
| Say this is the counter-Marxist Bureau or whatever it is and just staff it from the beginning with your people. | ||
| That'd be a way to get around it, right? | ||
| There's supposed to be something doing that as part of the FBI. | ||
| If you look on the FBI website, we think of the FBI as fighting kidnapping and bank robbers and such. | ||
| That's actually priority number three. | ||
| If you see on their website, priority number one is stopping weapons of mass destruction. | ||
| Priority number two is addressing counter-espionage, counter-intelligence, counter-espionage, subversion and foreign spies and traitors within our own country. | ||
| And number three is like getting bank robbers and kidnappers. | ||
| The part of the FBI that does that is that I think they actually call it the dark FBI and the light FBI, maybe the white and the black, but it's like black and a black ops type. | ||
| I think like about two-thirds of the FBI is actually that underwater part that would be, and that's the men in black. | ||
| And they're completely inert at this point because, for example, I've said this on Alex. | ||
| I've got, I think it's, I've told this story on Alex. | ||
| We know that during 2020, there were, and 2019, there were Zoom calls, but they would have a typical Zoom call, say 400 anti-fun BLM protest chapter leaders, cell leaders, and 30 feds, 30 active federal employees on the call, lawyers within the Department of Labor, hardcore lefties, giving instructions on how to run the color revolution, teaching them, coordinating them, giving them the plan, | ||
| clearly stepping into those people could absolutely they could be arrested for sedition. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| We've had hundreds of hours of those tapes, and we've had time in the last four years. | ||
| Somebody I'm associated with has spent four years digging through and the people that could not be identified were identified. | ||
| There were always ways to identify them, even when they, about half of them were anonymous, half of them were not. | ||
| But even the ones who were anonymous, they eventually leaned into the light and you get a good picture of the face and there's facial recognition software, boom, boom, boom, Facebook. | ||
| They can be identified. | ||
| A thousand of them got identified. | ||
| They're within the government now, within the government. | ||
| This isn't, I've never actually, not even with Alex made this public, but within the government, there are a thousand people today who during that era, they were taking part in those calls. | ||
| Their LinkedIns and profiles all still show they're scattered through the government. | ||
| That could be turned over. | ||
| The FBI has been forbidden to accept that information, has to be forbidden to meet with me. | ||
| Todd Blanche had put, so you don't have a copy of my book around, do you? | ||
| No, it must be back in the Jones studio. | ||
| I don't want to go with my book, General Flynn, called me the day after the Durham report was delivered. | ||
| And he called me at 7.01 and he said, Patrick, this is a cover-up. | ||
| I read it all night. | ||
| It's a cover-up. | ||
| Time for you to tell your life story. | ||
| So I wrote this book and it explains a bunch of dirty secrets of the state. | ||
| And they wanted that to stay. | ||
| So anyway, a whole lot of this isn't a theory for me. | ||
| I was part of it. | ||
| I was part of this. | ||
| I didn't understand what I was part of in 2015, 2016, 2017, but I was part of setting up the Russian Oaks. | ||
| I was part of the investigation. | ||
| Anyway, I'm bouncing around. | ||
| Well, that's so a thousand or more, more than a thousand. | ||
| Yeah, they will not, they will not, since they can't, since they got in power, Todd Blanche and the intelligence, probably Radcliffe, says no one can meet. | ||
| There's an agent in the government called an 1811 agent. | ||
| It's DHS or FBI. | ||
| That means they are qualified legally to take evidence and create a chain of evidence for prosecution. | ||
| They're forbidden, forbidden. | ||
| We got around it. | ||
| We found some ways to get around it some months ago, which was helpful. | ||
| But even that specific information, no one's allowed to meet with and accept. | ||
| And there's a thousand. | ||
| And these people in the Zoom calls, they identify themselves as infiltrators. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| They wear the language openly. | ||
| Oh, there's so much more to tell. | ||
| They use in these Zoom calls they thought were private. | ||
| We got infiltrated. | ||
| Friends of mine got infiltrated. | ||
| They got, they use language of like, my name is Jody Kay, and I have infiltrated the Department of Agriculture. | ||
| My name is Bob Jay. | ||
| I've infiltrated one of the intelligence departments. | ||
| That's how they speak of it. | ||
| And what's also interesting is not only are there usually 30 or so deep state actors in each of these calls, there are occasionally Israeli deep state show up in these calls, the Ehud Barak crowd, who are all color revolutionaries too, total communists. | ||
| And that's actually, and I would even say in some of the calls, I would say there's a little bit of deference shown from the American deep state to the Israeli deep state, which I know suggests some kind of modernized version of protocols and the elders designed or something. | ||
| But the Israeli deep state, I wouldn't go so far as to say they were calling the shots, but it's almost like they were the, I don't know, the bigger brother in the conversation to the American deep state in these Zoom calls. | ||
| And by the way, we have it all taped. | ||
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Wow. | |
| They cannot accept this evidence. | ||
| The counterintelligence division of the FBI should be all over this like Rosie O'Donnell on a biscuit. | ||
| They cannot accept this. | ||
| Why have so much dirt? | ||
| Now, some of it we've managed to get in because we've gotten around these blocks that Todd Blanche and the intelligence community has created, but there's still this active element working against while it's getting exposed. | ||
| White, can you just release the info? | ||
| Are you trying to save it to get the arrest? | ||
| That would be really heavy duty. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That would be really heavy. | ||
| Might light a fire under their butt. | ||
| That's probably the way to go. | ||
| Well, actually, that's probably what I should do. | ||
| Some things I should just start putting up on Twitter. | ||
| I mean, it's just, you know, it's like, hey, either you take care of this or we have to. | ||
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I mean, that was just going to make people so mad. | |
| Maybe we should be mad. | ||
| Well, man, it's, I mean, I'm glad to talk to you and sort of get a peek because it's like, you know, I always describe like we're watching like a fight underwater or something. | ||
| And sometimes bubbles come up and you go, I think I see a whale and a shark down there, but you can't quite tell. | ||
| Sometimes we get a, you know, sometimes it breaks the surface and we say, oh, it is an orca whale, actually. | ||
| So we're actually getting some little tastes of the real shadow warfare going on behind the scenes. | ||
| And this is your book here, Danger Close by Patrick Byrne, domestic extremist number one comes clean with the preface by Maria Boutina and afford by General Michael Flynn. | ||
| You can get that on Amazon or anywhere. | ||
| Fine books are sold. | ||
| Patrick, thank you so much for being here with us. | ||
| I wish we had more time. | ||
| We're always running out of time. | ||
| Thank you very much, sir. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| All right, folks, stay tuned. | ||
| We're going to be joined by Vish Burra in the next hour. | ||
| Still a lot more news to cover. | ||
| A lot more breaking bombshells still to deliver. | ||
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Don't go anywhere. | |
| Tell a story. | ||
| A story about one of the greatest psyops in history. | ||
| The psyop that you deserve less and less every year and that you should work harder and harder for less and less. | ||
| The psyop that to be broke was the American way. | ||
| The psyop that you should be lucky to pay your bills. | ||
| The psyop that it's normal for prices to go up every year, forever. | ||
| The psyop that it's normal to pay taxes. | ||
| When you're born, death and taxes are the only certainty they would tell you. | ||
| The psyop that you need to make $80,000 a year to take care of your family, then $100,000, and then $150,000. | ||
| Now they tell you both you and your wife need to work to achieve financial freedom. | ||
| So you hire the nannies, you hire the babysitters, you leave your community, you just don't have time for them anymore because you and your wife embarked on individual careers, these careers that took you away from your kids, your spouse, your home, your community. | ||
| And they told you this was normal. | ||
| It's totally normal to spend two-thirds of your time away from your family. | ||
| It's normal to fight and get divorced. | ||
| And it has nothing to do with the economic decisions and policies made by the government. | ||
| None of it was normal. | ||
| It was all nefarious. | ||
| And it chipped away at what it meant to be an American. | ||
| It chipped away at your self-esteem. | ||
| It chipped away at your marriage, at your family. | ||
| Until you looked up and one day no one was married anymore. | ||
| No one was succeeding unless they were heavily leveraged. | ||
| One day you woke up and realized you don't recognize the world around you until Trump President Trump came along and said, this is your country and that's your money. | ||
| And he wouldn't back down. | ||
| All the people that were destroying you came out and spoke against him. | ||
| They went to great lengths to undermine his agenda. | ||
| When President Trump hit his stride in 2019, they released a biological weapon that was the largest psyop in global history. | ||
| COVID. | ||
| They ran the scamdemic. | ||
| They extorted trillions of dollars out of your economy. | ||
| Then they stole your election overtly, hijacked your democracy, put up barbed wire fencing around your capital, and told you it was normal. | ||
| During the next four years, they would unleash an invasion the likes of which no nation had ever seen. | ||
| Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of illegals, poured in the United States of America and began gobbling up whatever remaining resources were in existence. | ||
| You were deemed a domestic terrorist by those in power. | ||
| They surveilled your phones, your computers. | ||
| They surveilled your lives. | ||
| But it wasn't enough to stop Donald Trump. | ||
| When they couldn't undermine his campaign through the courts and law fair, they eventually tried to kill him again and again and again until that fateful day in November when President Trump and America reclaimed their sovereignty. | ||
| With him, he brought the richest man on the planet for free named Elon Musk. | ||
| They then began uncovering and publicizing all the fraud, theft, waste, and abuse of the American taxpayer. | ||
| They have threatened him. | ||
| They have threatened his family. | ||
| Subversion is all they have left. | ||
| Infiltration is all they have left. | ||
| Their funding is drying up. | ||
| This is your liberation day. | ||
| That was an excellent production. | ||
| Kudos to the Dilly Meme team for that production. | ||
| Exactly right. | ||
| They're exactly right, folks. | ||
| I'm going to be joined by Vish Burrow on the other side. | ||
| He's sort of one of the latest cancellation figures, one of the latest figures to be canceled on the right. | ||
| Or, you know, not being adequately friendly to the people who hate us, I think is what the crime was. | ||
| What his vicious crime was. | ||
| So we're going to talk to him and just talk about sort of the ongoing MAGA civil war, if that's what you want to call it. | ||
| I think it's more of an outside invasion of MAGA, trying to warp it and distort it and bring it to their own ends and in the process, destroying MAGA and the Republican Party. | ||
| Because that might actually be the goal overall. | ||
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| Welcome back. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, third hour of the war room is on. | ||
| I'm your host, Harrison Smith. | ||
| Follow us on X at InfoWars at the, or I'm sorry, at real Alex Jones. | ||
| You can follow me at Harrison H. Smith at War Room Show and at AJN Live. | ||
| Sure, you're following all those because InfoWars is not long for this world, to tell you the truth, and you're going to want to be able to find us in whatever manifestation we end up in. | ||
| I'm very happy to welcome my guest, Vish Burra. | ||
| He is a political operative who's played a major role in the MAGA movement really since it began. | ||
| Although he's had a little bit of trouble recently, we're going to talk about that because obviously he's not the only one targeted for cancellation, being just way too patriotic and edgy. | ||
| You can follow him on X at Vish Burra. | ||
| Welcome to the show, Vish. | ||
| Hey, Harrison, thanks for having me on, man. | ||
| I really appreciate the time. | ||
| Well, it's my pleasure. | ||
| And what happened, man? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| You were a producer for OANN. | ||
| What happened, man? | ||
| What did you do? | ||
| What went wrong? | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| Let me just start off by saying I want to thank the folks at One American News for the opportunity to work with them and produce that brand new show that I was brought on to produce with Matt Gates and the Matt Gates show. | ||
| And I'm really proud and honored and gracious for Matt Gates too to give me that opportunity to work with them on that show. | ||
| And it's been making a major impact, especially in critical moments in the conversation we've been having over the past year, especially when it comes to Israel, the 12-day war, and the like. | ||
| So I don't want to kind of relitigate or put any blame on OAN or Matt Gates. | ||
| They've been nothing but wonderful to me and they will continue to do that. | ||
| But the reason that we're here today, why I was canceled, is really a singular focus on one thing that I did in about 24 hours prior to actually, you know, putting up the post that would get me canceled. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so what I did was that I exposed a billionaire that was actually my sources at the Heritage Foundation had informed me that Susie Leibowitz Edelman was the singular billionaire donor who was coordinating and leading the effort to coup Kevin Roberts at the Heritage Foundation. | ||
| And so when this information came to me and including her donor history and portfolio that included a hit squad like Media Matters, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, American Jewish Congress, and the like, I had basically put together a thread exposing this, exposing her, and the thread was catching fire. | ||
| And the next morning after I posted that thread, I woke up to a fan-made cartoon, a Sora cartoon that I didn't make. | ||
| I didn't sit there working hard on a Sora prompt to generate this thing, but a fan made it. | ||
| I thought it was funny. | ||
| It basically captured the essence of me exposing this Zionist cabal, really, because the two people that were addressed in that video, in that cartoon, were Susie, as in Susie Leibowitz Edelman, and James, as in James Lindsay, someone who's not Jewish, but certainly a Zionist. | ||
| And so I took this cartoon and used it to troll Susie harder to get a reaction out of her, get a rise out of her. | ||
| And in about four hours from me posting that cartoon, it was written up in MediaI by Isaac Shore, Israel First's number one operative at MediaIte, as a wildly anti-Semitic cartoon. | ||
| Now, they make this judgment basically because the scheming room that is portrayed in the cartoon had the Star of David emblazoned all over it. | ||
| Now, the Republican Jewish Coalition, American Jewish Committee, any Jewish organization on earth will use the Star of David to represent their cause, to represent and symbolize their cause. | ||
| But when I do that, to use it to imply the same thing, they called that anti-Semitic. | ||
| And so, and then in that scheming room, I portrayed Susie, or I didn't, but the cartoon itself portrayed Susie and James as cockroaches amongst their cabal there. | ||
| But it wasn't really meant to be anti-Semitic in the way that it targeted Jews, but it certainly was a critique about the Zionist cabal that's trying to destroy the MAGA movement, that is trying to break up and destroy the MA movement on behalf of Israel, Zionism, and this Israel-first cabal. | ||
| And so, hey, was it a lapse of better judgment on my part? | ||
| Perhaps, but anti-Semitic or that I tried to target Jews or that all these cockroaches are supposed to be Jews, that's nonsense. | ||
| And I was smeared basically because I was focusing on exposing Susan Leibowitz Edelman as the main character behind the coup of Kevin Roberts at the Heritage Foundation. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And I get it. | ||
| I mean, we're showing the cartoon here. | ||
| When light gets shined on cockroaches, they run away. | ||
| I mean, I think that's pretty obvious what the sort of metaphor is here. | ||
| It's not calling Jews insects. | ||
| It's saying when you shine light on roaches, you flip the light on, they all scatter. | ||
| It's a turn of phrase. | ||
| It's a very common thing. | ||
| And of course, you know, there's somewhere else where the Star of David is used, and that's on the flag of Israel. | ||
| So if you're talking about a foreign nation interfering in American politics, I don't see how using the symbol of that nation means you hate all the people of the religion that that nation claims to represent. | ||
| But it's just another example of sort of the, well, the cancellation that's happening on the right, this MAGA civil war. | ||
| And it's gotten so far. | ||
| So now I guess that would be because Tucker interviewed Nick Fuentez, and then the Heritage Foundation didn't disavow that. | ||
| Now you're being canceled because you exposed the person who, it's like, it's so far away from what the original crime was, if you can even call it that. | ||
| The cancellation's out of control. | ||
| I mean, this is doing serious damage to the Republican Party, Vish. | ||
| I mean, this is not just sort of squabbling. | ||
| I don't know how the Republican Party maintains any, you know, political power whatsoever if we are being torn down by people who quite often value a foreign country over our own. | ||
| Why are we being made to submit to this? | ||
| Well, look, the fact of the matter is, Harrison, that the victory of MAGA in the GOP over the last decade is what's directly leading to what you're seeing now. | ||
| Now that the sort of broader elites, whether that's the billionaire elite or the political elite in our country, the GOP elite of old, now sees that basically MAGA is the future and this sort of new right-wing politic that Donald Trump opened the door for when he first One in 2016 and then kept that door open once he won again in 2024. | ||
| All these people realize that MAGA is the future. | ||
| But what they also realize is that they are not in control of MAGA. | ||
| MAGA developed its own heroes, its own characters, its own organizations, its own apparatus over this last decade to be able to actually see our political project come to fruition. | ||
| But now that that political project has come to fruition, everyone who wasn't in on it early, whether that's by donating, whether that's by sweat equity, actually participating or organizing, getting the message out, using their platforms, all those people now want to be in control of this political project that we call MAGA. | ||
| And they want to be to do it by disregarding the base's notions of what MAGA is in the first place. | ||
| And not only that, trying to gaslight them and tell them, actually, this is what MAGA is about the whole time. | ||
| MAGA has always been about forever wars in the Middle East, right? | ||
| And has always been pro-Israel. | ||
| Now, the thing that's really the gaslight there is that MAGA has been anti-interventionist from the very beginning, from the moment Donald Trump said on the stage in the debate against Bush. | ||
| But yeah, Jeb Bush said, essentially, said your brother did 9-11. | ||
| And that was the moment. | ||
| That was the moment that kind of flipped and kind of gave us that anti-war candidate. | ||
| And come 10 years later, now we're being told that actually, you know, that never happened. | ||
| Actually, Donald Trump was pro-wars the whole time. | ||
| And so it went out when the base rejected this notion that we should go to bomb Iran in the 12-day war. | ||
| Everyone who came up with that base over the last decade rejected that vociferously. | ||
| Tucker, Bennon, Gates, Pandis, all the heroes. | ||
| And then now they're being smeared as anti-Semites, as Nazis, as never not real MAGA, as Islamo-fascists, as Marxists, as the woke right. | ||
| Every label on earth has been deployed to basically try to steal away MAGA from its original heroes and shift it to these folks who want to drive the GOP's policy with a priority to Israel and Israel first. | ||
| And that is the main goal. | ||
| And that is exactly what we need to stop. | ||
| There is no way MAGA and America first is Israel first in any way, shape, or form. | ||
| And it will never be. | ||
| And so this is the crux of the MAGA civil war as we speak right now. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| I could not agree more. | ||
| And, you know, I even take it back to, I was on Reddit on the Donald, you know, early on in Trump's career, and it was distinctly anti-Israel. | ||
| And then as soon as he became the Republican candidate, you saw a shift. | ||
| There were mods that were kicked out, other mods brought in, and suddenly it had a pro-Israel bin. | ||
| So this has sort of been a strategy for a while. | ||
| They see how successful MAGA is and they go, ooh, we better be in charge of that because that's going to be the future. | ||
| And they do it dishonestly. | ||
| I mean, you've got Ben Shapiro claiming he's going to define what MAG is. | ||
| He took the vaccine. | ||
| He was in favor of the Iran war. | ||
| He was anti-MAGA until Trump got elected. | ||
| I mean, it's just absurd for these people to claim ownership of MAGA when they, out of anybody, did so much to hurt Trump from a position on the right. | ||
| It's really just absurd and kind of insulting. | ||
| They expect us not to go along with this or expect us to bend to the threats. | ||
| I think it's outrageous. | ||
| And I'm bummed that, you know, you as a very effective person and Matt Gates and his fantastic show. | ||
| I've really enjoyed seeing it. | ||
| And, you know, it's a lot of people have shows. | ||
| Not everybody, you know, you see clips getting posted. | ||
| A lot of Matt Gates' clips get posted because it's a very good show. | ||
| So it seems like, again, just sort of shooting ourselves in the foot, trying to kick out the most popular and influential people of the party. | ||
| It's just suicidal to me. | ||
| And we know how unpopular Israel is, and it's only getting less popular. | ||
| Why would we tie ourselves to this sinking ship when it's only going to take the Republican Party down with them? | ||
| It's very infuriating. | ||
| And oh, how Ben Shapiro conquered the MAGA verse. | ||
| How did he conquer the MAGA verse? | ||
| Vish, was it through argumentation? | ||
| Was it through having the better points? | ||
| Or perhaps were there some other strings being pulled? | ||
| I'm insulted by all of this. | ||
| No, this is a giant media operation. | ||
| Ben Shapiro never conquered the MAGA verse. | ||
| In fact, I would say the MAGAverse conquered Ben Shapiro, where now he's having to bend and respond to our gripes, to us chimping out, right? | ||
| And so, so actually, we conquered him. | ||
| But this whole thing kind of jumped the shark the moment that B.B. Netanyahu, the prime minister of a foreign nation, decided he was going to define what was MAGA and what wasn't. | ||
| And that was when this whole thing broke wide open, in my opinion, because when you have a foreign leader of a foreign nation interfering in factional politics in America, domestic factional politics in America, that's when this whole thing essentially blew up. | ||
| And the reason that this is going on is because the Republican Party needs and really survives by big money donations. | ||
| They were always kind of the corporate party and needed that corporate money. | ||
| And as they move away from that, they need to plug those gaps. | ||
| And the new kind of coalition that, or a class of donors that is now trying to fill that void in the GOP, are these basically ex-progressive Jewish billionaire donors or still are progressive Jewish billionaire donors, | ||
| but realize that perhaps on a national level, perhaps at the presidential level, they need to work with and donate to the GOP because the GOP is the only party that is steadfast in its support of Israel and is willing to deploy United States resources, blood, treasure, you name it, in the defense of Israel. | ||
| And I think that there's this is again, goes back to Susan Leibowitz Edelman, who's trying to whitewash her history and scrub and sort of stalin her whole history as a progressive donor funding hardcore leftist causes into sort of now a Trumpian conservative donor who donates to TPUSA and the Heritage Foundation and the Manhattan Institute. | ||
| This is there they're really trying to remake their image so that they can then control the party in the future and their cronies and their characters that they're building up through their networks are going to be the ones who lead this movement, especially online and in the public sphere. | ||
| So, you know, these are, and Shapiro is kind of king of that coterie of influencers who are going to be the ones who are going to replace all your MAGA heroes. | ||
| That's their plan. | ||
| And it's not going to work. | ||
| Even Breitbart and I was writing articles about how the Bushes want to reclaim the Republican Party. | ||
| And it's like that, that time is over, y'all. | ||
| I mean, if you go back to the Bush era Republican Party, you're just not going to win anymore and people are going to go elsewhere. | ||
| So it really seems like a suicide pact to go down this way. | ||
| Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, we have a bit more viewers than Ben Shapiro does. | ||
| He's not leading anybody anywhere. | ||
| And of course, their attempt to cancel Tucker Carlson, of all people, it's like you couldn't pick a worse target. | ||
| Everybody loves Tucker Carlson, knows he's like pro-America to try to frame him as Tucker Katarlson. | ||
| It shows the desperation, the outrageous and sort of absurd nature of a lot of these claims. | ||
| And it sort of goes on and on. | ||
| This has been the shadow war of Trump's second administration the entire time from the Signal Gate scandal and the attempt to start the war with Iran. | ||
| I mean, there's been this shadow warfare behind the scenes of the pro-Israeli faction desperately trying to destroy the lives of anybody who stands up against them. | ||
| And it's really kind of brutal. | ||
| And then we have the story from today. | ||
| It was revealed that Ambassador Huckabee held meetings with Jonathan Pollard, who's an ex-spy, who talks about threatening America with nukes. | ||
| And I mean, it's just a criminal. | ||
| Like, he's just a terrible person that when he was caught in the 80s, it was this giant scandal. | ||
| Mike Huckabee's meeting with him in secret. | ||
| And it's this type of stuff that we're like, why are we putting up with this? | ||
| We're America. | ||
| We just want America first. | ||
| We're sick of being, you know, at the beck and call of this little pointless country in the Middle East. | ||
| It's infuriating. | ||
| And that's that's not an anti-Semitic thing to say. | ||
| It's a pro-American thing to say. | ||
| Can you help sort of delineate that, the claim of anti-Semitism versus pro-Americanism? | ||
| Well, look, first of all, it's simple in just that example that you point out where Ambassador Huckabee is hosting Jonathan Pillard in the U.S. embassy. | ||
| I don't care what color, what religion, what race Jonathan Pillard is, he is a traitor. | ||
| He is a traitor to the United States, right? | ||
| And the fact is, is that we're hosting him. | ||
| Why? | ||
| What is the benefit there? | ||
| What is the pretext? | ||
| The only benefit there is that it is in service of the nation of Israel, right? | ||
| And that Bibi Netanyahu is a big fan of Mr. Pollard. | ||
| And if he's a fan, well, then, you know, Mike Huckabee is going to be a fan of him too and host him. | ||
| I don't know why he kept that off his calendar, because probably he knew and understood the implications of people knowing that this guy was hosted in the U.S. embassy after he was a traitor to the United States. | ||
| And look, this is the problem that we're trying to address now is that any criticism of Israel, any criticism of these people who are traitors to the nation, like Jonathan Pillard, who happens to be Jewish, who said that dual loyalty, that every Jew has some kind of dual loyalty in him, that is an anti-Semitic remark out of him. | ||
| And he's Jewish, right? | ||
| Or at least considered anti-Semitic, right? | ||
| If you're accusing people of dual loyalty because of, you know, them being Jewish and that they have some loyalty to Israel. | ||
| And so if they're saying it themselves, but if I simply repeat it or I just copy exactly what they say and throw it back out there, they're calling that anti-Semitic. | ||
| And so really, Harrison, what this is, is that they can talk about whatever they want in whatever fashion that they want. | ||
| But if we say the exact same thing, they are going to smear us as anti-Semitic. | ||
| They're going to smear us as Nazis, as what, as you name the epithet. | ||
| I mean, it just reminds me of the left back in 2016 and those years, right? | ||
| Even pre to COVID. | ||
| They sound like the left. | ||
| And this is part of their tactics to try and smear everyone, get every competition or competitor of messaging out of the way by using these accusations. | ||
| And so that they can go on and do what they want on behalf of Israel with impunity. | ||
| And that is something that we as patriots need to stand up against. | ||
| There is no way in hell that Americans, real Americans, are going to allow Israel to dictate the terms of United States foreign policy, domestic policy, or even speech patterns, right? | ||
| They're not going to change our 1A culture because they don't like something that was said. | ||
| They don't like a cartoon that was made. | ||
| They don't like a joke that was said. | ||
| They don't like that this information has been exposed. | ||
| We have to fight against this. | ||
| This is the same censorship that we've stood against back in 2016 through COVID through 2020. | ||
| And it's now rearing its ugly head in 2025. | ||
| And this time, it is because of Israel and basically young Americans' lack of positive sentiment towards Israel. | ||
| There is no way I'm going to let our nation be subject to these kind of foreign influence operations on behalf of a foreign nation. | ||
| There's no way George Washington. would turn over in his grave if we as Americans allowed that to happen. | ||
| And I'm not going to let that sit on my soul that that's what we allowed to happen. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Vish, let me ask you, can you stay on for a little longer? | ||
| I don't know if we have you booked for the whole hour or not. | ||
| Can you stay for the whole hour? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| That way we'll, we'll, because I want to watch the video of Jonathan Pollard and get into all that. | ||
| Because I completely agree with you. | ||
| It's, it's infuriating and it's nonsensical. | ||
| And I can't even understand what the logic is. | ||
| To me, if I was Israel, seeing the way things are going, seeing the hatred that my behavior is inspiring, seeing, you know, the polling numbers go down and being sort of forced to accept this ceasefire, I would be looking at this and going, all right, this is an opportunity for us to maybe rebuild our image. | ||
| Maybe we back off a little bit, let the heat cool down. | ||
| But it's like they can't. | ||
| It's like they just keep doubling down. | ||
| They just keep going harder. | ||
| It's like the more they censor people, the more people get mad at them. | ||
| The more people get mad at them, the more they censor. | ||
| And we're just in this death spiral. | ||
| And I just want to see it interrupted. | ||
| So it's like, I'm not even pro-Israel, but if I was Israel, I would be doing things differently. | ||
| And I almost want to give them advice to be like, y'all, you just got to chill. | ||
| You just got to stop trying to censor everybody. | ||
| It's pissing everyone off and making it worse for you. | ||
| It's almost like they have to realize that, right, Vish? | ||
| I mean, they have to realize, and I think that is part of it as well, is the more crazy Israel goes, the more so-called anti-Semitism arises in America. | ||
| And that's what's behind it, by the way. | ||
| They want to tell you it's in your DNA or it's, you know, just this senseless. | ||
| It's about poisoning wells in the Middle Ages. | ||
| No, it's a response to the behavior of Israel and the videos that we see of murdering children and the outrageous statements they make, you know, when they're bragging about it. | ||
| That's what pisses people off. | ||
| So you got to stop doing that. | ||
| Like, it's not complicated, but it seems like they do it deliberately to increase anti-Semitism because the more anti-Semitism there is, the more laws they get to pass and the more they get to, you know, destroy our freedoms. | ||
| Do you think, how much do you think that's a part of it, the deliberate fostering of anti-Semitism? | ||
| Well, I think that is definitely some part of it. | ||
| I think that there is definitely a operation of some sorts where people will act this way to try to increase anti-Semitism out there in the real world so that ADL and all these organizations can justify their existence and ask for more donations. | ||
| I think that there is a part of that. | ||
| But really, Harrison, I think what's happening here is I think that they're desperate, that they are just desperate. | ||
| And the population that really had their side, that really had their back, which is the boomers, is dissipating every day, right? | ||
| And then even young evangelicals compared to older evangelicals, they are not as pro-Israel as their parents and grandparents and et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| So I think that they realize that their only time to address this issue is now while they have Trump in the presidency. | ||
| And that's why they are acting super desperate to try and change the sentiment everywhere they can. | ||
| I think it is backfrying. | ||
| I think it's going to continue to. | ||
| More than Vish Burrah on the other side. | ||
| Follow him on X at Vish Vera. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Don't go anywhere, folks. | ||
| You can follow him at Vish Burrah on X. He's a political operative who being punished for revealing the truth about who is weaponizing cancel culture on the right these days. | ||
| It's that classic quote. | ||
| You know, first they came for Nick Fuentes, and I didn't speak up because somebody told me he was a gay fed. | ||
| And then they came for Tucker Carlson for interviewing Nick Fuentes. | ||
| I didn't speak up because somebody told me he was funded by Qatar. | ||
| Then they came for Kevin Roberts, who's the head of the Heritage Foundation, because he wouldn't condemn Tucker Carlson for interviewing Nick Fuentes. | ||
| It's almost like the house that Jack built. | ||
| It's like it's so far from anything making any sense. | ||
| It's like we're canceling people for refusing to cancel people, but you're saying that we're the woke, right? | ||
| It's all convoluted and nonsensical. | ||
| Tends to happen when liars get involved. | ||
| So, Vish, I know it must just be kind of baffling to you, you know, getting canceled for this when I thought free speech was kind of our thing. | ||
| And you might be a weirdo like me. | ||
| Like, I'm a weirdo. | ||
| I've got this weird thing I do, and you might do it too, where you treat Israel like every other country. | ||
| Is that your stand? | ||
| Because that's how I do it. | ||
| And it makes everything pretty simple. | ||
| You just don't care who they are or what their religion is or what their justification for what they're doing is. | ||
| You just treat them like everybody else. | ||
| And when you do that, you find they're kind of evil and should probably be stopped. | ||
| The nation of Israel. | ||
| Not Jews, the nation of Israel. | ||
| And I'm always clear on that on that delineation. | ||
| But yeah, it's like, why can't we just treat Israel like any other nation? | ||
| What is it about Israel? | ||
| Is it Epstein? | ||
| Is it the blackmail? | ||
| Because it seems like at the heart of all of all these different scandals that are constantly popping up, it's Israel and their control of our government that's the real issue here that we really can't solve if we can't talk about it. | ||
| Yeah, look, the reason I think, Harrison, that this is that Israel is really such an important part of our conversation, our body politic here in America, is because really the memory of America amongst the existing generations goes back to World War II, right? | ||
| Like most of the boomers, like that's their great myth is World War II and defeating the Nazis and saving the Jews from the Holocaust. | ||
| And that's fine. | ||
| You know, when they came up, that was the mission. | ||
| It all worked out for them. | ||
| Home values were going up. | ||
| Stock market was going up. | ||
| You know, oh, okay, if we got to ship a couple billion to Israel every year to keep them okay, that's fine because everything looks good for me. | ||
| So there was a, I think that that was basically the sentiment for post-World War II. | ||
| And that was all fine until everything crashed. | ||
| Now we're, this is 80 years after the end of the war, essentially. | ||
| And it's completely new generations, completely new economic situation. | ||
| The internet changed everything a couple times over in the last two decades. | ||
| So we have new problems that we need to address. | ||
| And that might include, you know, rethinking our deal with Israel as Americans, right? | ||
| And I think that Israel does not want to move away from the deal that they've been used to since its existence, since its existence, right? | ||
| And so I think that the younger generation wants a new deal and they're clamoring for it. | ||
| And Israel doesn't want to give up that new deal. | ||
| And the boomers want to help keep Israel propped up for as long as they can. | ||
| And then on the other side of that, really, Harrison, that I think a lot of people don't give enough credence to is that I think the Jewish people globally, they're actually really diverse, right? | ||
| They come from a lot of different backgrounds, a lot of different national backgrounds, et cetera. | ||
| There's Sephardic Jews, Mizrahi Jews, Ashkenazi, et cetera. | ||
| But the thing that really, I think, unifies them today more than anything else is the sort of mythos of the Holocaust, right? | ||
| And that that is actually what keeps them together, this sort of universal victimhood narrative that allows them to be unified with each other because of this great wrong that was done to them. | ||
| But the thing is, is that that no longer has the currency that it did in the immediacy of the end of World War II. | ||
| This is, again, we're almost a century after now. | ||
| Most people do not remember it. | ||
| Most people aren't beholden to that memory or that myth. | ||
| And they don't want to be, right? | ||
| I am trying to treat Israel as just any other country, whether that's, you know, Iran or that's something in South America, India. | ||
| My parents are from India. | ||
| I never talk about India because quite frankly, I don't care, right? | ||
| I don't care about all these old world nations. | ||
| This is America. | ||
| I'm an American. | ||
| The whole point of being an American is to leave your old world stuff in the old world, right? | ||
| All your caste system, all your tribal differences, etc., that's supposed to stay there. | ||
| But the fact is that now those tribal blood feuds are being imported en masse into America. | ||
| And that's on both sides. | ||
| And Americans don't want either part of it. | ||
| They don't want either side of it anymore. | ||
| And especially because it leads to so many people overseas hating Americans because we can't keep our nose out of other people's business. | ||
| And so it's just, it's an American position through and through to want to treat Israel just like any other foreign nation and that they don't get any special carve outs. | ||
| They don't get any special treatment. | ||
| And if we're going after one country with a ton of tariffs and a ton of scrutiny on whether they're allowed to send their students to our country or not or how many people from their country can come, those same standards should be applied to Israel. | ||
| And, you know, to even put a fine point on that, there was reporting recently in, I think, the American Conservative that talks about the FBI having a special class of criminals organized criminal activity that they designate as IBOX, IBOCO, IBOCS, which is Israeli-based organized crime syndicates. | ||
| And nobody knew that this classification level existed in the FBI. | ||
| And then come to find out that embassies in the State Department were giving visas to people who were suspected of being involved in IBOX, that they were actually, you know, that they're allowed to come to our country, even though they might be part of some Israeli crime syndicate. | ||
| We don't allow that for any other criminal organization on earth. | ||
| The Italian mafia, you name the Yakuza, right? | ||
| We won't allow anybody in this country who's associated with that, but we allow Israelis. | ||
| This is the, people see this every day. | ||
| They hate the hypocrisy. | ||
| They hate the double standards. | ||
| If you don't like DEI and you don't like affirmative action, you can't be for this kind of DEI, affirmative action in our foreign policy that's specially carved out for Israel, period. | ||
| Could not agree more. | ||
| You brought up a bunch of good points there. | ||
| Obviously, the point about like, yeah, we can send billions of dollars to Israel, which is not that big of a deal, but like when we're suffering, we can't get what we need and they all have free health care. | ||
| Yeah, you're going to start to cause some resentment. | ||
| And, you know, I think it goes even deeper than what you're saying, or you're sort of hinting at it at the phenomenon that's taking place. | ||
| I'm sure you saw the video that went viral from, I think it was the Jewish Federation Association where the woman is saying, you know, Holocaust education is backfiring on us because we teach kids, you know, with these imagery from the Nazis how bad it is because you see the big, strong Nazis, you know, oppressing the poor Jewish people. | ||
| And now they're seeing similar things happen in Gaza. | ||
| And so now we look like the bad guys. | ||
| And it's like, well, yeah, I guess that is what's happening. | ||
| I mean, it's weird. | ||
| They don't get why it would piss people off to see a pretty much literal Holocaust going on. | ||
| Do you just lose power there, Vish? | ||
| I saw you, you go dark. | ||
| I'm still here. | ||
| We're still connected. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, I hope you're all right. | ||
| But yeah, it seems like it's all gone backwards. | ||
| But here's where it gets really crazy. | ||
| They call you a Nazi if you oppose Israel. | ||
| But the reason I oppose Israel is because they're doing a lot of the same stuff the Nazis were doing, collective punishment, no free speech, you know, cracking down on religious minorities. | ||
| So there's this weird inversion now where you're a Nazi if you're not a Nazi. | ||
| If you don't like censorship, if you don't like authoritarianism, like those are the things we went to war over. | ||
| We didn't know about the death camps or any camps until after the war was over. | ||
| So it's not like that's why we were going. | ||
| We're going to rescue the Jews. | ||
| We're going because we didn't like the ideology that would beat people if they didn't do the salute exactly right and would demand that you believe this ideology or you go to a work camp. | ||
| It's like, that's what was evil about it. | ||
| That's what we hated. | ||
| That's what we're supposed to hate. | ||
| That's what's supposed to define Nazi. | ||
| But now, if you don't want the censorship and you don't want the authoritarianism and you don't want the violence on the streets, that makes you a Nazi. | ||
| Like it's totally inverted now. | ||
| Yeah, you know, look, Harrison, the problem is that there is no sort of standard or respect for being able to discuss these issues in an honest way. | ||
| Because I think that what happens is when you do discuss these issues in an honest way, there are some uncomfortable things that get brought up and uncovered. | ||
| And it may have to do with answering some questions about why people of a certain religious denomination might feel like they need to respond in a way that's highly defensive of Israel, even in the worst situations. | ||
| Like nobody wants to say that, yeah, my country that I support or my favorite country that I support is committing a genocide. | ||
| Nobody wants to admit that, but reality is reality. | ||
| And especially today, Harrison, there is very, it's very hard today to be able to hide the things that you're doing. | ||
| Everything is happening in real time, whether that's social, you know, the idea of this genocide that's the first ever to be live streamed, probably. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so when people see this and they like in their heart, you can't lie to them and tell them that what you're seeing, you know, don't believe your lying eyes, what you're seeing is not real. | ||
| And so a lot of people are not going to go along with that and they're going to ask tough questions. | ||
| And the fact of the matter is, is nobody wants to answer the tough questions. | ||
| Israel doesn't want to answer the tough questions. | ||
| These Israel first supporters don't want to answer the tough questions. | ||
| And their favorite tactic when they don't want to answer tough questions is calling people anti-Semites and Nazis. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| That itself is Nazi behavior, right? | ||
| That literally is. | ||
| Yeah, to smear people in such a manner to disregard their opinions just because you don't feel like answering. | ||
| And to put a really fine point on that, it's not just that they're behaving like Nazis and that this is creating like an anti-Semitism and it's rising, but eventually people are going to tune out to it in a way that's really going to be problematic. | ||
| Right. | ||
| For whether, but for people who want to defuse the situation, I can't talk any more sense into you because you bought in finally, because you pushed somebody too far, because you refuse to answer certain questions at a certain point. | ||
| And so, you know, if it just, it's a radicalization engine that these people are participating in. | ||
| And so if that does not stop, you know, at some point, this is going to be a runaway train. | ||
| And so we want to avoid when that happens and smearing people with false labels. | ||
| And also another part of that is the blood guilt thing. | ||
| To go after VP Vance's staffer, Buckley, because his uncle is on Twitter shit posting and because his father is interviewing Tucker Carlson, there's not a single thing on record of VP Vance's staffer Buckley saying anything anywhere, but he's having to come out and answer questions for what his father said or what his uncle said. | ||
| That's blood guilt. | ||
| That's Nazi stuff, right? | ||
| And they're going full bore on it. | ||
| And so, again, this is a radicalization engine that if it's not stopped soon, it's going to be a runaway train. | ||
| And eventually, me and you, nobody's going to be able to talk sense into people who have gone through that rigmarole. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it just seems so, it just seems so clear to me. | ||
| And it's, you know, but I also, I don't really accept, like, I, if you tell me that America is doing something evil, I don't defend it. | ||
| Like that, that doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
| And that, that, I think, uh, confuses and enrages people. | ||
| And, but it also is not internalized by a lot of people. | ||
| I'm trying to think of how to say this. | ||
| Like, you know, if, if, if people say, hey, America dropped a bomb on a, on a, you know, wedding and killed a bunch of innocent people, I'm not sitting there going, oh, so you're on the side of the terrorists now. | ||
| It's like, I'll be like, no, yeah, that was bad. | ||
| I'm really sorry that we did that. | ||
| Now I would not have done that if it was me and I'm against who did that. | ||
| And like, why would you not say that if that's how you feel? | ||
| And why don't they feel that way? | ||
| That I think is confusing to people. | ||
| And then you've got the likes of like Dave Portnoy, who goes on TV and says, I get called anti-Semitic slurs every day. | ||
| And it's like, well, do you think that's because you're Jewish? | ||
| Do you think every Jew in America is getting called slurs? | ||
| Or do you think that's because you in particular are a pretty intolerable person that has shown everybody that you freak out and cry if you get called an anti-Semitic slur. | ||
| So now people are doing it to you deliberately to provoke you. | ||
| Like do you think Dave Smith or Max Blumenthal are getting called slurs? | ||
| No, they're anti-Israel. | ||
| They are pro-America and nobody would associate them with the insane stuff that Israel is doing. | ||
| So there's a lot of this like, you know, causing problems and then, you know, saying you're the victim like Dave Portnoy is always doing. | ||
| It's very offensive to me. | ||
| And then the idea that you're going to defend Israel no matter what, it's like, well, then I'm going to blame you when they do evil stuff and you're defending it. | ||
| Like, why would you defend that? | ||
| You shouldn't. | ||
| And the result of you defending it is that people associate you with Israel. | ||
| And so they don't like you because they don't like Israel. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Just why can't they see the process this is going, like the feedback loop that we're entered into? | ||
| Because I agree with you. | ||
| I like the way you put it, a radicalization engine or a radicalization feedback loop. | ||
| We want to interrupt it and just go, let's have adult conversations about geopolitics and the role of Israel in American foreign policy. | ||
| We cannot have that conversation because of the shrieking hysterics that come out the minute that anybody is critical of Israel. | ||
| It's not a good way to run a country and it can't go on forever. | ||
| Eventually, the dam's going to break. | ||
| And yeah, people are getting more and more pissed off. | ||
| It's just, you know, but then even trying to express that, I get called an anti-Semite. | ||
| Like, how do we even talk about this without tripping these wires they've laid for us? | ||
| Well, the fact is, is that they've shown themselves that no matter what, if you try to avoid the wires or avoid trying to trip over this stuff, it's not going to matter because they're going to find another way to label you, to smear you, to shut you up, right? | ||
| At the end of the day. | ||
| So there's no point in trying to actually avoid the wires. | ||
| What you have to do is you have to bulldoze the entire building, right? | ||
| You just got to, with your message, you just have to hope that you push through enough to the point that somebody registers what you're saying or people register enough what you're saying that they're spreading it to other people. | ||
| And maybe now you're getting into a place where your message is permeating to the point that you're diffusing the situation. | ||
| But the point, there's no point in avoiding the tripwires because you can avoid the tripwires. | ||
| Maybe you hit the tripwire, just a small one, right? | ||
| They're going to cancel you. | ||
| They're going to come and demand your head. | ||
| And then it's not going to be enough either, Harrison, right? | ||
| That's the other thing. | ||
| It's not that just these people who managed to successfully cancel me, you know, it's not enough for them for me to be fired. | ||
| It's more important that now I don't be rehired anywhere, right? | ||
| And that my career ends. | ||
| And that, and if anybody hires me, they're going to go through that struggle session too. | ||
| Did you just hire this guy, right? | ||
| Did you just hire this anti-Semite? | ||
| Did you see this cartoon that he posted? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so it never ends. | ||
| So that's why you can't give an inch to these people in the first place. | ||
| You cannot. | ||
| It's better to, you know, forget, obviously use good judgment, but this whole thing of tiptoeing over tripwires is a no-go. | ||
| It's better to bulldoze and push your message through 100% and never stop doing that. | ||
| And hopefully enough people will have listened to it and will be on your side and ready to actually maybe fix something here because something does need to be fixed, whether it's this conversation about Israel, how we're having that conversation, or just we want a new deal. | ||
| We want to, the NZ wants a new deal with Israel, a holistic one, not just about foreign aid. | ||
| You know, oh, you see a lot of these Israel forcers now talking about, oh, yeah, we're going to get rid of, you know, Israel is down to get rid of the foreign aid. | ||
| And it's like, okay, that's a start. | ||
| It's one thing, but that's not the whole point here, right? | ||
| There's a whole lot going on that we want a holistic deal out of all of this. | ||
| And if Israel is not willing to let us, first of all, let us figure out our deal for ourselves with them. | ||
| If they're not willing to do that without interfering, then, you know, again, it's all part of that radicalization where people are like, well, then I'm going to stop listening to Israel and I'm going to stop giving anybody who's pro their side a consideration and a voice in this debate. | ||
| And that's, and then everybody's going to be crying then, and there's very little they're going to be able to do about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, I think, I think you're right that we can't, you know, we can't let ourselves be tripped up by these tripwires. | ||
| But also, I'd say going the other way is a common response that is also, I think, ill-advised where people go, oh, you're going to call me a Nazi. | ||
| I guess I am one then. | ||
| And it's like, guys, it's literally exactly what they want. | ||
| Like you're literally giving your enemies exactly the label they need to destroy you. | ||
| Why would you do that? | ||
| Or just why would you like fall for like they're trying to gin up hate because they literally need it? | ||
| And so I just, I just try to stay above all of it and just go, this is bad because it's bad. | ||
| I don't care who's doing it or why. | ||
| I'm going to be against it because I value innocent life or whatever it happens to be. | ||
| And I think just like being resolute and sticking with that is the only way forward. | ||
| I want to go quickly to this video of Jonathan Pollard because this gives you an idea about what you're mentioning. | ||
| That's not just about foreign aid. | ||
| It's about the fact that this guy was spying on us and then somebody gave Trump money or did twisted Trump's arm or something. | ||
| He lets this guy out. | ||
| Benjamin Nanyahu greets him like a victor on the tarmac. | ||
| He's there waiting for his plane to arrive. | ||
| Like the amount of honor this guy's given. | ||
| And listen to the way he talks about America and Israel. | ||
| And then Mike Huckabee is meeting with him in secret. | ||
| This is the guy Mike Huckabee met with. | ||
| And I'll get Vishborough's comments quickly on the other side. | ||
| But here's a video of Jonathan Pollard talking about threatening America with nukes. | ||
| Let's watch. | ||
| Admit this. | ||
| We are now feeding our enemy. | ||
| I mean, this has never happened in history before, and you have to ask why. | ||
| And I don't want to hear this business that is consistent with Jewish morality. | ||
| It isn't. | ||
| Anybody saying that doesn't know anything about Jewish morality at all? | ||
| Let me bring you back to October 1973 during the Yom Kippur War when Henry Kissinger instituted an arms embargo against us. | ||
| And what happened? | ||
| What happened was an A-4 Skyhawk was parked at Tel North Air Base with some interesting weapons under its wings. | ||
| And we told the Americans, take your eye in the sky and take a good look at the airplane that's on that runway. | ||
| And the next day, the airlifts started to Israel, the arms era. | ||
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So in other words, we threatened their weapons. | |
| I'll leave it at that. | ||
| And so he said, is this what you want us to threaten now? | ||
| I said, absolutely. | ||
| Except this time, I want us to go forward with it if necessary. | ||
| If they think we're bluffing, we go forward with it. | ||
| Look, as far as I'm concerned, when we are faced with an existential threat, we have the right to use any and all weapons in our disposal to eliminate that existential threat. | ||
| A lot of people don't know anything about nuclear weapons at all, what they are, how they can be used. | ||
| And I'm tired of using euphemisms. | ||
| I'm tired of saying, well, we have something in the basement, but we won't be the first to introduce nuclear weapons in the Middle East. | ||
| It's enough already. | ||
| All right, so that's Jonathan Pollard, spy who gave thousands of pages of military secrets to Israel in the 80s, was convicted. | ||
| People resigned over it. | ||
| And Trump let him out. | ||
| Now Mike Hugby's meeting with him. | ||
| Like, this is the type of stuff that it's like, this guy is our enemy, man. | ||
| He's threatening nuclear weapons to get America to do what he wants. | ||
| And yet, Mike Hugby's meeting with him. | ||
| This is the stuff I find intolerable, Vish. | ||
| It's not to just find intolerable. | ||
| Look at the arrogance, right? | ||
| And look at the hubris that's that's dripping from him as he says those things. | ||
| You know, and maybe Mr. Pollard needs to be reminded between the United States and Israel, only one of those nations has actually successfully dropped a nuke on anybody. | ||
| So he needs to be careful about who he's talking about. | ||
| But for the matter, is like, look, these guys are dripping with contempt. | ||
| And they think that they're entitled, that they are entitled to whatever they're asking for from America. | ||
| And if they don't get it, they're willing to, you know, basically create a nuclear holocaust of their own to get what they want. | ||
| And so if that's the mentality driving Mr. Pollard there, and who knows, maybe it's the mentality that's driving BB Netanyahu and other leaders in Israel who have the power to maybe either make or influence that decision. | ||
| If that's what's driving them, they're going to have a very, very long and tough road ahead trying to convince Americans of the future to get on board with them with some kind of friendship or alliance or any kind of. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| This guy was an absolute traitor, absolute traitor in Bibi Nanyahu. | ||
| There's meeting him on the tarmac. | ||
| So yeah, I don't think there's any speculation about what side Bibi's on or how he feels about it. | ||
| Vish, how can people support you? | ||
| What's next for you? | ||
| Well, listen, stay tuned. | ||
| I always have something very exciting coming out. | ||
| I will definitely let the world know, and it will be for everyone to see. | ||
| Keep following me on X at Vishborough, V-I-S-H-B-U-R-R-A. | ||
| It's my number one social media platform. | ||
| And just stay tuned, man. | ||
| Nobody's going to be able to shut me up. | ||
| Bigger and better things ahead. | ||
| Vishborough is not going anywhere. | ||
| We're going somewhere, though. | ||
| Thank you for being with us, everybody. | ||
| That's the show. | ||
| We'll see you tomorrow. | ||
| Go to the AlexJonesStore.com to support us. | ||
| Thanks for being with us, Vish. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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