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Wednesday War Room: MAGA in Chaos as Concerns Spike Over Affordability Crisis Trump Insists Doesn’t Exist, Meanwhile, Admin Courts Student Visas for Chinese, 50-Year Mortgages & Fannie Mae Drops Credit Threshold for Home Loans…PLUS, Dems Resurrect Epstein Files
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harrison smith
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the war room.
I'm your host, Harrison Smith, coming to you live this Wednesday afternoon, the 12th of November, 2025.
We got a lot of stuff to talk about.
Politics, the Epstein release.
We are going to talk about Israel a little bit today as well, everyone's favorite topic.
And of course, we'll get into Antifa and what happened at UC Berkeley over the weekend.
Since I had so many guests yesterday, I haven't really gotten to delve into that, but there's also new information coming about.
So lots of stuff to cover, and we'll be joined in studio by Tiffany Sianci in the third hour.
And we'll be talking about a lot of topics that we're going to cover today, including H-1B visas, the SNAP program, the 50-year mortgages, and why they're all just terrible and should be ended as soon as humanly possible.
Well, let's begin today as we do every day with our Daily Dispatch.
All right, here it is, folks, your Daily Dispatch for Wednesday, the 12th of November, 2025.
U.S. meant to strike last penny as Trump's phase-out rattles retailers.
The Treasury Department is considering issuing guidance to help businesses navigate the transition, including how to round cash transactions up or down to the nearest five.
Sad to say, we might actually need guidance on this.
People might not actually know how this works.
President Trump's decision earlier this year to halt production of the U.S. penny is rippling through the economy faster than expected, triggering widespread shortages of the one-cent coin and headaches for retailers and banks.
The administration has moved quickly to wind down penny production as a cost-cutting measure following Trump's February call to rip the waste out of our great nation's budget, even if it's a penny at a time.
And, well, that seems to be about how quickly it's going.
Meanwhile, Venezuela announces massive mobilization of military forces as America's largest warship sails into region.
Venezuela says it's launching a massive mobilization campaign of military personnel, weapons, and equipment in response to the buildup of U.S. warships and troops in the Caribbean Sea.
Land, air, naval, and reserve forces will carry out exercises through Wednesday, according to Defense Minister Vladimir Pedrino-Lopez, who described the deployment as a response to the imperialistic threat posed by the U.S. military buildup.
And this comes as, of course, the USS Gerald Ford moves into Caribbean waters, bringing us closer to direct confrontation with Venezuela.
Meanwhile, probably the biggest story we have today, House Democrats release new Epstein emails referencing Trump.
And they really are just going to the end of sanity with this.
I'll show you some of the things the Democrats are saying that are just outrageous.
They're really making the most out of this they possibly can.
And we'll get into the whole timeline of Epstein here because this remains one of the most baffling political scandals of all time.
Specifically, how this went from being something that Democrats refused to even acknowledge existed was entirely a Republican topic to suddenly being a weapon in the hands of the Democrats.
It's wild how this has come about, and we'll get back into that.
Meanwhile, over 600 illegal immigrants have been awarded $112 million after a New York jury found the county liable for unlawful ICE detentions.
So yes, folks, a federal judge has ordered Long Island's Suffolk County, New York to pay $112 million in damages after hundreds of illegal immigrants were detained by local authorities on behalf of ICE.
Yes, folks.
People who were slated for deportation were temporarily housed in a prison, and now we're paying them $112 million for breaking into our country.
unidentified
So, yeah.
harrison smith
Finally, we have this.
DOJ launches investigation into UC Berkeley over Antifa mob violence.
DOJ announced that it's investigating the University of California, Berkeley, a day after the mob violence from Antifa protesters occurred outside of a turning point USA event.
In a post on X Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division, Harmee Dillon, shared a letter that was addressed to UC Berkeley Police Chief Yoganda Pittman.
In the letter, Pittman was asked to preserve all records in her possession that are relevant to the agency's preparation, execution, and response to the turning point event held at campus on Monday along with the related protest.
And once again, we're in the situation where I'm glad they're mentioning it.
I'm glad they're doing something about it.
Writing a letter to the head cop that allowed it to happen, not actually the right thing to do.
What they should be doing is arresting everybody involved.
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Here it is, folks, your daily dispatch for Wednesday, the 12th of November, 2025.
U.S. meant to strike last penny as Trump's phase-out rattles retailers.
The Treasury Department is considering issuing guidance to help businesses navigate the transition, including how to round cash transactions up or down to the nearest five.
Sad to say, we might actually need guidance on this.
People might not actually know how this works.
President Trump's decision earlier this year to halt production of the U.S. penny is rippling through the economy faster than expected, triggering widespread shortages of the one-cent coin and headaches for retailers and banks.
The administration has moved quickly to wind down penny production as a cost-cutting measure following Trump's February call to rip the waste out of our great nation's budget, even if it's a penny at a time.
And, well, that seems to be about how quickly it's going.
Meanwhile, Venezuela announces massive mobilization of military forces as America's largest warship sails into region.
Venezuela says it's launching a massive mobilization campaign of military personnel, weapons, and equipment in response to the buildup of U.S. warships and troops in the Caribbean Sea.
Land, air, naval, and reserve forces will carry out exercises through Wednesday, according to Defense Minister Vladimir Pedrino-Lopez, who described the deployment as a response to the imperialistic threat posed by the U.S. military buildup.
And this comes as, of course, the USS Gerald Ford moves into Caribbean waters, bringing us closer to direct confrontation with Venezuela.
Meanwhile, probably the biggest story we have today, House Democrats release new Epstein emails referencing Trump.
And they really are just going to the end of sanity with this.
I'll show you some of the things the Democrats are saying that are just outrageous.
They're really making the most out of this they possibly can.
And we'll get into the whole timeline of Epstein here because this remains one of the most baffling political scandals of all time.
Specifically, how this went from being something that Democrats refused to even acknowledge existed was entirely a Republican topic to suddenly being a weapon in the hands of the Democrats.
It's wild how this has come about, and we'll get back into that.
Meanwhile, over 600 illegal immigrants have been awarded $112 million after a New York jury found the county liable for unlawful ICE detentions.
So yes, folks, a federal judge has ordered Long Island's Suffolk County, New York to pay $112 million in damages after hundreds of illegal immigrants were detained by local authorities on behalf of ICE.
Yes, folks.
People who were slated for deportation were temporarily housed in a prison, and now we're paying them $112 million for breaking into our country.
unidentified
So, yeah.
harrison smith
Finally, we have this.
DOJ launches investigation into UC Berkeley over Antifa mob violence.
DOJ announced that it's investigating the University of California, Berkeley, a day after the mob violence from Antifa protesters occurred outside of a turning point USA event in a post on X Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division, Harmeet Dylan, shared a letter that was addressed to UC Berkeley Police Chief Yoganda Pittman.
In the letter, Pittman was asked to preserve all records in her possession that are relevant to the agency's preparation, execution, and response to the turning point event held at campus on Monday along with the related protest.
And once again, we're in the situation where I'm glad they're mentioning it.
I'm glad they're doing something about it.
Writing a letter to the head cop that allowed it to happen, not actually the right thing to do.
What they should be doing is arresting everybody involved.
That's your daily dispatch brought to you, of course, by thealexjonesstore.com.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
This is the war room.
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So I wanted to get that.
I want you to know that right off the bat before we even get into all of the news for today.
It's been an interesting 24 hours.
Let's just say that.
Donald Trump has made some of the most ridiculous, unforced errors of his entire political career.
And it really does feel like the wheels are coming off this thing.
Again, I say that with absolutely no joy.
I say that in the most somber and grief-filled way I can because I understand that this is America's last best hope of retaining any semblance of our identity of our nationhood.
It just we're very much on the precipice here.
And I posted this yesterday as a little prediction on my ex.
I said, we are exactly one year away from impeachment.
At the rate things are going, frankly, who cares?
Democrats will sweep the midterms, running the most radical candidates in American history, while Republicans will spend a year calling their base anti-Semitic.
They'll impeach Trump and charge everyone in his administration with felonies, open the border to another 40 million dependents while giving backdoor citizenship to everyone already here.
They'll end the filibuster, pack the court, and start systematically whittling away our rights to speech and self-defense.
This is it.
America's being destroyed.
Also, Israel can build luxury apartments over the mass graves of slaughtered innocents.
I think that last sentence is particularly important because remember, that's what this is about.
That's what this is about.
It's often phrased as though this is an existential fight for Israel's existence and the support given to them is necessary or else they're all going to die.
That's not entirely true.
All we've wanted the entire time was Israel to just stop killing people, just stop murdering people in Gaza.
Just stop bombing hospitals and elementary schools.
And we wouldn't have a problem with the nation state of Israel.
And that's, they couldn't handle it.
They couldn't handle it.
So now, as the Republican Party is devoured alive by the Israeli lobbyist, America is being sacrificed so that Israel can build luxury apartment condos, apartments and condos on the banks of the Mediterranean.
So well done.
Well done.
It's not a question of Israel's existence.
This is necessary.
It's just like if they just stopped committing genocide, everything would be cool.
But they don't want to.
So they'll kill anybody that gets in their way.
So that's where we're at at this point.
And it really is absurd.
And I had a lot of people responding to this, calling me a panican.
Why are you trying to blackpill everybody?
Of course, my response is that last time I made a prediction like this, it was in the summer of 2020.
And I predicted that the COVID lockdown would be extended past election day.
The Democrats would use mail-in ballots to cheat, and then they would use the backlash to the stolen election to arrest Trump supporters.
Something I was dead on about.
I thought they'd go a little bit further, but it was all imminently predictable.
It's all kind of obvious, actually.
Actually, the timeline right there for anybody to see.
That's not inevitable.
It's not a foregone conclusion.
We do have free will.
One of the great things about being human beings with an intellect, with an intelligence and an ability to project into the future potential outcomes, we can alter our behavior to try to get to the outcome that we desire.
It's called free will.
It's part of being a human being.
It's really fantastic.
We should try it sometime.
We should try to do this.
It seems like everything that's happening right now is like we're strapped in to a roller coaster and we can't break away.
Like we're on these tracks and we're just headed towards just like an inferno, just a furnace, an open furnace.
And we're like strapped in.
And I'm just trying to break us out.
I'm trying to flip the lever to go on a different track to not head towards the inevitable destruction that we see before us.
And it seems like there are so many instances where this is the case.
AI is one of them, where for as far as I can tell, all of the history of sci-fi as a genre, a core component, a core plot has been the obvious sort of pattern of AI being invented,
AI trying to kill all humans, humans having to destroy AI, eventually coming to some sort of butlerian jihad, you know, dune status where you outlaw thinking machines because you see how dangerous it is.
It's like, how are there 10,000 books and short stories and movies about this scenario?
Here we find ourselves in it and we're just doing it.
It's like we're following the script.
It's like, guys, the reason we wrote the script was so we could skip that part in the middle.
The part in the middle where AI takes over and tries to kill all of us and we have to fight our way out and it's like Terminator or the Matrix.
We're like blotting out the sun to deprive them of energy.
Like we can skip all of that by recognizing the future threat and then avoiding it.
But we're not doing that.
We're just going headlong and just turning everything over to AI without even thinking about it.
Great.
That's great.
It's great.
Similarly, you know, the various global conflicts.
And these aren't even things that I'm telling you, you know, down the line.
I'm saying we're so stuck in this, on these tracks that we were telling you this was the outcome long before the war started.
We were having interviews and making reports and doing whole shows about how Russia was going to go to war with Ukraine, laying out how we got to that point, laying out the options we had to, you know, stop the process before it started.
You know, covering Anthony Blinken going over to Ukraine and going, this is it.
This is the last chance.
Russia is going to invade if he doesn't make some concessions or doesn't come to an agreement with them.
He goes there and spits in Putin's face.
Here we are three years later with the war only accelerating and increasing, the attacks only getting bigger and more damaging, the threat of nuclear war only that much closer.
And there's just something so frustrating.
So, I mean, we are the Cassandras.
We are the Cassandras of the modern political landscape where we just sit there and go, guys, here's what's going to happen.
Here's the timeline.
January 2020, going, all right, you guys don't know what COVID, you're about to learn.
You're about to learn about this virus.
It's coming from China.
It was made in the lab.
They're going to lock down the economy.
Then they're going to not free us up until we get the vaccine.
The vaccine is going to be poison.
They're going to tie it to digital ID to create a one-world government control grid.
We were saying that in January of 2020, most people didn't hear about COVID until February at the earliest.
And then we had to sit by and watch as it followed the playbook, as exactly what we predicted unrolled in exactly the way we predicted.
Now, luckily, because there were enough people listening to us, because there are enough people aware and awake and able to follow the simple logic that should be obvious to literally anybody, like it's like, okay, it's frustrating to be able to know what's coming and not being able to stop it.
That is frustrating.
It's almost more frustrating that this isn't obvious to everybody.
Everything that we say, I mean, I don't want to downplay the importance that I serve as a news reporter, but like I am not doing anything spectacular.
I'm literally just looking at like what people are saying and going, yeah, they're probably going to do that.
So what's going to be the outcome?
You know, I'm not exactly predicting that they're going to end the filibuster.
I'm watching videos of James Carville saying, we're going to destroy the filibuster.
Like, they're going to do it, you guys.
I believe them.
I trust them to do whatever evil thing is necessary.
And it's like, it's really not that hard.
I think maybe the thing is my secret trick for predicting things.
Know that if you think you know more than him, you don't.
It's not even close.
Hate to break it to MAGA pannikins, but Trump is going to do some things we don't understand when he does them because he's playing a much larger game and has exponentially more insight than your average Joe and Jane citizen pundit.
unidentified
It's not even close.
harrison smith
Hey, dumbass.
I can point out specific examples that disprove that exact thing.
It's the one I keep referencing.
Why did he let James Comey's family friend slow walk his prosecution until five days before the statute of limitations was up?
Is that a big trick?
Was that part of a plan?
Oh, we didn't want James Comey indicted until September.
Wow, so sophisticated.
And then in a panic, he put in his own personal lawyer to get it done in five days.
And by the grace of God, she pulled it out.
That was out of, was that a plan?
Was that a scheme?
What's the tactical maneuvering there?
Now, I would believe you if, in that particular instance, that was a trap.
If they went, hey, we're going to give this indictment, this command to this guy.
We know that he's Comey's friend, and we're going to see what he does with it.
And this is a trap, and we're going to be monitoring his communications.
We're going to give it to him.
And when he refuses to indict Comey, then he's going to be indicted for obstruction of justice.
No, that guy still works at the DOJ.
That guy that took the order to indict James Comey, pretended that he was trying and just having trouble doing it for nine months until an amateur got it done in five days.
That guy's still working at the DOJ.
He wasn't even fired.
Are we trusting the plan?
Folks.
If you think that this is all sophisticated white hat operations behind the scene, like you are delusional.
I'm sorry to tell you, you are delusional.
And it's like, again, basic logic, basic logic applied to some of these things show that there's no sophisticated strategy behind it.
unidentified
How could there be?
harrison smith
You tell me what the sophisticated 4D chess interpretation of Trump coming out and saying we want H-1B visas because America doesn't have any talent.
What's the, it's like, ah, they, you know, they, they don't get it.
They don't get how sophisticated it is that Trump is crashing his approval rating to the lowest it's ever been.
All part of a plan.
I mean, it's, you're delusional.
I don't know what else to tell you.
Now, on the other hand, I don't want to be blackpilled, even though everything is rather blackpilling these days.
I don't want to be blackpilled because that's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The thing is, honestly, I just, I can't even believe where we are at this point.
Some things are just the same as they've ever been in a frustrating way.
In other words, why are we even still talking about QAnon?
My God.
Like, I cannot believe that we still, the year of our Lord, 2025, have people saying trust the plan.
Like, that's wild to me.
It's kind of hilarious, actually.
That's crazy.
But then in other instances, like Epstein, it's so inverted from what it was 10 years ago.
It's like, I don't even know what to make of this.
But all of them share the characteristics of being completely unmoored from reality and totally bonkers insane.
And we'll get into Epstein here.
I just, I, again, just want to emphasize that there's got to be, there's just got to be a major change.
I don't know what's going to invoke that.
I don't know what needs to catalyze this change, but Trump is completely going off the rails.
His administration is just completely abandoned everything that they were running on.
Even the stuff that they're saying they're doing is all just half-assed, half-measures, totally inadequate to the problem that they're solving, trying to solve Antifa would be a great example.
I've sent letters to the university to preserve their records.
Okay.
Somebody pointed out today, MAGA was never technically declared a domestic terrorist organization.
But that didn't stop the FBI from kicking down the doors of MAGA influencers, hauling them away, and charging them under RICO statutes for crimes that took place in a different city while they were in prison and completely incapable of even communicating with the people on the Capitol on January 6th.
So somehow, without being designated a terrorist organization, the civil rights and free speech of MAGRA Republicans was not just eviscerated, they were thrown into prison for decades for crimes they didn't commit.
Now they've declared Antifa a domestic terrorist organization, and they're writing strongly worded letters to universities after a mob attacks a crowd at a TPSA event that was memorializing Charlie Kirk, who was, what was it, two months ago, murdered in cold blood in front of the world.
So, no, we're not taking any of this stuff seriously enough.
We're not doing anything that we should be doing.
And the important thing to understand is that it's a choice, is that all these things are choices.
I almost feel weird saying this because this is what I used to always say about the Democrats.
This is what we used to always say about the Biden administration was pointing out, and we're absolutely right, yet another point in which we are proven correct, incontrovertibly, indebatably correct, in that things like the border, what were we saying the entire time the border was open?
It's in a crisis.
This isn't something they can't handle.
This isn't something that's just occurring that they're having to deal with.
Ah, gee, you know, the volcano is exploding.
I guess we got to scramble to get things out of the way of the law.
But like, it's in a natural disaster.
This is a man-made disaster.
It was a choice.
It's a policy decision and the desired outcome from that decision, which is why it continues perpetually.
Now I'm saying the same thing about the Trump administration, that the choices they're making are what have led us to this point.
The deliberate decisions of the Trump administration as to where to spend money, where to focus their energy, what to prioritize, who to serve.
It's entirely their fault.
I'm sorry to say.
I really am.
They can fix it, but they ain't going to fix it if we're just glazing them the entire time.
So I'm going to tell them what they're doing wrong and speak down to them like they're children because I can't understand how I'm the only one that can figure this crap out.
It all seems so utterly obvious to me.
But okay, we'll try to walk you through this.
Now, there's been a couple things, a couple videos that have come out recently that, again, just sort of illustrate what we were talking about yesterday with Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen.
Rasputin.
I wish we could use a Raspbuten around now.
Right about now.
But we were talking about just the complete failure of the Trump administration to respond adequately to the demands, the desires, the necessities requested by Gen Z or anybody of any age that can recognize the struggle that we're in right now.
And by the way, my videos are going all wonky here.
But there's a couple of these.
Let's go to clip three first because this is another one where it's like, okay, what do they not get?
What does the Trump administration not understand about their own promises during the campaign trail?
Here's Chrissy Noam talking about how much faster they're going to make it for immigrants to come into the country.
This is just, I'm having flashbacks to Joe Biden.
Let's watch clip number three.
unidentified
What is the administration's position on these visas?
kristi noem
We're going to keep using our visa programs.
We're just going to make sure that they have integrity, that we're actually doing the vetting of the individuals who come into this country, that they want to be here for the right reasons, that they're not supporters of terrorists and organizations that hate America.
And that's what I think is so remarkable: under the Trump administration, we've sped up our process and added integrity to the visa programs, to green cards, to all of that.
But also, more people are becoming naturalized under this administration than ever before.
More people are becoming citizens because we're not just streamlining and building some processes back into our immigration policies.
We're also making sure that these individuals that are coming into our country and get that privilege, that they actually are here for the right reasons.
The Biden administration let thousands of terrorists into this country.
They opened the southern border.
They abused our asylum programs, abused our protective programs and visa programs, and we fixed all of it.
It's remarkable what President Trump has done, and it's because he's a great leader, he's a visionary.
And this man is going to go down as a legend in history as our greatest president ever.
harrison smith
Wow, very bold.
Bold statements there.
So let me translate a little bit.
Again, this is almost verbatim what the Biden administration would say when they were asked about the immigration crisis.
During Biden's administration, when they were asked, what about the crisis at the border?
They would say, We're working really hard to deal with the influx of immigrants.
We are speeding up the process to make sure we can get them in here as safely and quickly as possible.
Like, that is literally the opposite of what we want.
That's the opposite of what we need.
So, here is Christy Noam taking a page directly out of the Biden handbook.
And when they hear that people aren't happy with the H-1B visa program, they think, don't worry, we're speeding it up.
We're going to have more naturalized and new citizens in this country than ever before.
And hate speech isn't free speech, right?
And we're going to get into the H-1B visa system.
I've done a lot of investigation into this.
I've done a lot of digging into the internet to find some of the most egregious stories, but they're all fairly similar.
If you think the asylum program is abused, you ain't seen nothing compared to the H-1B visa system.
The entire thing is a scam, is an absolute scam.
And the whole thing compounds on itself, where the more people you bring over from other countries, they are not shy about favoring their own people, about showing discrimination against Americans in favor of their co-nationalist co-ethnics.
So the more you bring in, the more they bring in.
And then on top of that, you're taking jobs from graduates while simultaneously giving positions in universities to 600,000 Chinese students.
And as much as I could go on and on about this, talking strictly about how damaging it is to the American people, how screwed up and practically built for corruption and exploitation these systems are, and strictly just talk about India, China, and America.
I could do it the whole time.
But there's another layer of this.
This may shock you, but it's Israel.
But yeah, Israel's involved in this too.
What do you think Christy Noam means when she says we're vetting all of these people to make sure that they aren't in favor of people who hate America?
Who haven't said things about our allies, however she put it?
They aren't making sure that everybody who comes over is a respecter of Thomas Jefferson and small government.
They're not Scanning everybody to make sure they have expressed love of white people and Christianity in the past.
Now, our immigration system is being throttled by or being controlled by the nation state of Israel.
unidentified
Of course, but of course.
harrison smith
And why do you think we have 600,000 Chinese students coming over?
Could have anything to do with the deals that we made so that China would sell TikTok to Israelis.
All right.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
This is The War Room.
I'm your host, Harrison Smith.
I don't know what, I don't know who's advising Trump.
I'm not sure.
Actually, I do know.
Actually, I'm going to tell you who it is.
I shouldn't even say that.
But the point I'm trying to make is Trump's messing up.
He's messing up big time.
He's messing up in ways that are not going to be easily rectified anytime soon.
He's betraying people.
And that's really what this is.
And I want to emphasize that.
This is betrayal.
And that's how it feels.
Now, you can tell somebody who's been betrayed, you haven't been betrayed.
They know they've been betrayed.
You can't tell somebody that they're not sad, right?
No, it's how they feel.
It's an accurate way to feel, and it's an accurate interpretation of what has occurred here.
Let's go to clip number one first.
Trump says that H-1B visa immigrants, they're just more skilled than Americans.
We're just stupid Americans.
We can't figure out how to be trained to do something, not like the glorious Indian man.
Let's watch.
donald j trump
There's never going to be a country like what we have right now.
And does that mean Republicans have to talk about it later?
laura ingraham
And does that mean the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration?
Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers.
donald j trump
You also do have to bring in talent when we have plenty of talent in the future.
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
laura ingraham
We don't have talented people.
donald j trump
No, you don't have certain talents, and people have to learn.
You can't take people off an unemployment, like an unemployment line, and say, I'm going to put you into a factory where we're going to make missiles, or I'm going to put you in the middle of the market.
laura ingraham
How did we ever do it before?
donald j trump
Well, let me tell you what I'm saying.
laura ingraham
And you and I were.
donald j trump
I'll give you an example.
In Georgia, they raided because they wanted illegal immigrants.
They had people from South Korea that made batteries all their lives.
You know, making batteries are very complicated.
It's not an easy thing and very dangerous, a lot of explosions, a lot of problems.
They had like five or six hundred people, early stages, to make batteries and to teach people how to do it.
Well, they wanted them to get out of the country.
You're going to need that, Laura.
I mean, I know you and I disagree on this.
You can't just say a country's coming in, going to invest $10 billion to build a plant and going to take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in five years, and they're going to start making missiles.
It doesn't work that way.
harrison smith
It's just so crazy thing to say.
Obviously, that clip of him saying you don't have the talent is going to dog him for the rest of his political career.
This is extremely offensive, obviously wrong, and a fundamental betrayal of everything that he's supposed to stand for.
And he's wrong about what happened in the Hyundai plant anyway.
These people are not especially skilled.
H-1B visa holders are not especially skilled.
You know what you have to have to be an H-1B visa holder?
A bachelor degree.
You have to have a bachelor degree.
You have to go to like two years of college.
These are not super geniuses that we're bringing over here.
And the people that we are bringing over cheat to qualify anyway.
So even though it's not a super high level of academic achievement, they didn't even earn that.
And they're being welcomed over here by the millions.
Now, if H-1B visas were about just getting the best people from anywhere, then why are like 70 plus percent of them from India?
Because it's a scam.
It's a scam to bring Indians into this country.
I know we've done the math before.
I don't know if people truly comprehend, truly understand that you could literally one-to-one replace every single person in America with an Indian, every single person.
Just swap them freaky Friday style with an Indian, and you would still have 1.1 billion Indians in India waiting to get over here.
So what's the cap?
What's the maximum?
And why are all the H-1B visas coming from India?
Again, if it was like, hey, these H-1B visas, we're getting German engineers and Polish railway workers and whatever else, fine.
No, we're getting infinite Indians.
We're getting infinite barely educated Indian people.
That's what it is.
And it's an entire ridiculous scam.
What is the point of celebrating a $10 billion investment of a foreign company building a factory here if all the parts they use to make the factory come from overseas and the company itself is an overseas company?
And then everybody they employ, they bring over.
We haven't even benefited.
Like we'll get, what, the tax money from that, I guess?
So the tax money from that will be collected by the government to be handed out to other people around the world that aren't us.
The tax dollars from the foreign investment into themselves on our soil, they'll pay a percentage of that to the government so it can get paid back to everybody else around the world that doesn't work and doesn't benefit us.
And just so you know, let's just lay the groundwork, all right?
Because you hear this a lot, H-1B visa.
What even is it?
All right.
The H-1B visa is a non-immigrant visa in the United States.
It allows U.S. employers to temporarily employ foreign workers in specialty occupations, jobs that require at least a bachelor's degree or its equivalent in a specific field, e.g. engineering, IT, medicine, mathematics, science, architecture, accounting, etc.
It is the most common work visa for highly skilled professionals, especially in tech, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, et cetera.
Now, it only lasts three years.
It can be extended to six years total.
There's supposed to be an annual cap of 85,000 new H-1B visa holders per fiscal year.
65,000 is the regular cap, 20,000 additional for U.S. master's doctorate holders.
However, it has a dual intent clause.
In other words, the people that come over for H-1B do not always leave.
It's supposed to be temporary.
They're only supposed to come over for three years.
It can be extended to six, but then they're supposed to go home.
Now, there's another twist to this as well, which is if they lose their job, they get sent home.
So it becomes a way to not only pay them significantly less than you would for an American, provide them with substantially less comforts or whatever, but it also is a way to pressure them to not complain or not or to do more work because if they get fired, they get sent back.
So it's really like a modern indentured servitude kind of operation that these corporations are running.
But you can pursue a green card.
You can pursue citizenship here during those three years that you are an H-1B visa holder.
So they say, well, these are temporary workers.
Technically, yes, but while they're here, they can be working towards citizenship.
And do you really think that if they don't leave, we're going to go find them and send them home?
Yeah, maybe we'll get to them once we find the other 30 million people that got over our board in the last four years.
We'll get to them eventually.
And they can bring over their entire families before they get the green card when it's still just the H-1B.
Spouses and children get H-4 visas.
Some H-4 spouses can apply for work authorization if the H-1B holder has approved I-140 or extended beyond six years.
You can change employers immediately after a new H-1B petition is filed.
Now, the way that this is gamed is that what you're supposed to do, the reason this was set up, ostensibly, once again, like everything else in this country, these things start with certain contingencies, certain requirements, certain prerequisites, and they eventually go away.
And for some reason, we keep the thing, but we leave all the restrictions, right?
Asylum.
The asylum program used to have very stringent requirements for what allowed you to cut the line and circumvent the lawful entry.
Now it's whoever can download an app and press the I'm an asylum seeker button.
Okay, the whole program has to go away.
With H-1B visas, the idea was you're some company, you're trying to hire engineers, you've hired every engineer in town, you've advertised in all the nearby towns, you've advertised statewide, you still can't find anybody.
All right, fine, go recruiting overseas.
All right, every employee in the country has a job.
Okay, we got to go to another country to get workers.
Ostensibly, that's the way it's supposed to work.
And the way it's supposed to, this is supposed to be controlled is that you are required by law to advertise in America, try to fill the position with an American, and only after you go through the process of trying to find an American, if you can't find one, then you can apply for an H-1B visa.
But the recruiting companies know this, and so they fulfill the requirement to the minimum technical level required, knowing full well that they'll never get any responses from qualified candidates.
And I'll show you examples of that as we go through the stack.
But just as an overview, understand that they're supposed to hire American first, and only when American labor is not available are they supposed to be allowed to go to India to get cheap labor.
But they get around that by advertising like on the 50th page of a local paper in rural Oklahoma for an IT specialist located in Seattle.
But technically, they can go, we did advertise it.
We looked.
We looked and we looked.
Can't find anybody.
Got to go to India now.
So they're cheating.
They're just cheating.
And this just goes on and on and on.
And their entire, there's like a pocket industry that just runs this.
They're called body shops.
And it's Indians who come here and then are paid to facilitate the intake process and get more Indians over.
It's almost all Indians.
See if there's anything else we need to know about this.
I mean, this is just one of many types of visa, you know, types that are all just used to just take our jobs and rob us of our inheritance.
And, you know, Trump has always been in favor of legal immigration.
I'm not going to lie to you and say that this is a betrayal of a campaign promise.
He has always been in favor of legal immigration, but I think a lot of Trump supporters understood that differently.
I think I understood that differently, where it's like, yeah, illegal immigration is awful, needs to stop outright.
Everybody who's illegal needs to be deported.
But also, we don't want like millions of legal immigrants.
We don't hate legal immigrants.
We just don't want an infinite number of them.
But there is a difference between legal and illegal.
And if somebody wants to come to this country and contribute and truly become American and assimilate and benefit us, then, you know, there's no problem with that.
But I don't think anybody was aware that the illegal immigrant program was just going to be kind of replaced with a legal one.
And in a lot of ways, it's worse.
Most illegal immigrants, they'll get very, very low-paying jobs that most Americans don't want to do.
They'll do them, but they're not exactly things that they go to school for.
It's different with the H-1B visas, though.
Which again is why it feels like betrayal.
Because people go into debt, they go to university, they spend four or five years, whatever it is, get an engineering degree, get out of university, saddled with all this debt, and all the available positions are filled with Indians.
Yeah, that's a betrayal.
So let's go to clip number four here.
This is what I said when I said I don't know who's, no, this is who, okay.
Kevin Hassett, director of the National Economic Council, talks about how during the first Trump administration, he worked with Stephen Miller, of all people, to massively increase legal immigration into this country.
Well, isn't that lovely?
Let's watch.
kevin hassett
In the corporate tax space, there would be like laugher curve effects, but you could imagine other quarters of the tax code where you wouldn't.
So, for example, if you expand the child credit, there might be a lot of good reasons to do that.
But unless you think that there's going to be a big fertility response, you're not going to see a laugh or curve effect.
unidentified
Now, you've argued in papers in previous years that for economic growth to occur in an economy like ours, we need to have immigration, getting workers to come in to take jobs.
Now, we don't have as much immigration as we did before.
Do you worry that we're not going to be able to fill all the jobs that might be available?
And are you worried about the lack of our ability to get a lot of skilled workers to come in because of immigration policies?
kevin hassett
You know, one of the things that people forget about President Trump's immigration policy in the first term is that he had us, and I worked very closely with Stephen Miller on this, come up with an immigration reform that could significantly increase legal immigration.
And I can remember we went and presented it at the Washington Post editorial board, and I remember they were very favorably inclined towards that policy.
So I think we have to sort of think about legal versus illegal, and that I think that we've already gone the record for the previous administration as supporting sound immigration reforms that copy the kind of immigration policies they have in Canada and Australia.
And so that's not happened yet.
And so the question is, how does that feed through to the labor market?
harrison smith
So Canada has been destroyed through legal immigration.
Australia has been destroyed through legal immigration.
In America, 58% of college grads are still job hunting as hundreds of thousands of high-paying jobs are handed to people who paid for their diploma from a diploma mill in some disgraced fake university in India.
Let me go through these stories.
First from Mark Mitchell.
We had him on yesterday, Raspi Some Reports.
He was collecting basically sentiments from the youth about how they feel about Trump.
Well, this one's from Astor after his appearance on our show, and it's about Trump's statement about the H-1B visas.
And the person says this.
I'm sure you're going to get bombed with comments after Trump's H-1B visa comments.
Speaking frankly, I hope Republicans lose so bad that Democrats impeach him again.
I've gone through the humiliation ritual of looking for a technical job recently.
It's horrible.
I've seen entire offices become an Indian village overnight.
No issue gives me more autism than the American talent issue.
I don't want to hear a single drop of cope from any Trump Glaze account.
Any tether Trump had to reality was murdered by a furry.
No less, no more Miller will save us, Cope.
Just like Vivek on Christmas for me, there is no recovery from this.
My parents had their relationship destroyed with my brothers for this man.
How many other families were ripped apart over him for what?
Infinite Indians?
Like that is betrayal.
Trump has betrayed his supporters.
Not just done something they don't like, not just said something that they have a hard time coming to terms with.
These people feel stabbed in the back.
I feel stabbed in the back.
And I haven't suffered nearly as much as some people.
I mean, imagine going for bat, going to bat for Trump.
And it like ruins your family.
You're like a parent that like doesn't talk to your children anymore.
It's because like you understand what's going on.
You believe you believed in Trump's mission and you know, you just thought this is important enough.
This is reality.
This is the future of the country.
This is humanity at stake here.
Your family's destroyed over your support for Donald Trump and Donald Trump turns around and sells you down the river.
So like it does it doesn't even matter anymore what the Trump administration says.
Today I was downloading videos and there's statements from the Trump administration.
I'm like, I don't even care what they say.
I really don't.
I got statements from Harmee Dylan about Antifa, Pam Bondi, about whatever.
And it's like, I really don't care.
I really don't care.
Now, if you can show me a headline that says H-1B visa program terminated, you know, 2 million sent home.
That will do some part in mitigating the betrayal that we feel.
But certainly nothing you say is going to have any impact until you do something tangible, recognizable, powerful.
They have betrayed us.
unidentified
And for what?
harrison smith
For what?
1.5% of our population being descended from Indians.
You want to know how many Indian people voted for Trump in 2024?
300,000.
Great.
Now, we could listen to Charlie Kirk.
One of his last posts before being murdered was this.
This is the social compact breaking down.
And it's a chart showing estimated percent of 30-year-olds who are both married and homeowners from 1950 to 2025.
And it is a catastrophic downturn.
He says this.
One, mass deportations.
Two, stop the H-1B scam.
Three, dramatically reduce legal immigration.
Four, end chain migration and the visa lottery.
Five, build 10 million homes for Americans.
Six, crush the college cartel.
Now, at least, you know, three of these could be done immediately with absolutely no input from anybody.
He could stop the H-1B scam, Trump, in an afternoon.
He could order mass deportations and bring in the military and, you know, deploy them in a real way, not just sending two guys out into a neighborhood to try to, you know, drag away some dude in the middle of Chicago.
How about you circle the neighborhood, start closing in, throwing everybody in vans, shipping them out that afternoon.
Ending chain migration and the visa lottery.
Just end it.
You can just end it.
You can just say no, and then it's over.
In the exact same way that Joe Biden could have said no and stopped the border crossings.
Trump did that.
He could do that for all of these, but he won't because he's working with guys like the guy we just showed you who are working on behalf of their corporate masters, who are completely globalist corporate scum, to bring over infinite, you know, slave labor from India.
Again, if we don't have talent in America that can do this, how is it that India, the vast majority of them don't even have indoor plumbing?
How are they going to do better?
We've played the game before, where you go on Google Street View and you try to find a single place in India that isn't covered in trash.
It's an impossible task.
It's an impossible task.
Why do we need them?
Why would we want them?
What is the point?
unidentified
What is the point?
harrison smith
Americans are dying out.
American birth rate is below replacement.
There are 1.4 billion Indian people on the same train in Mumbai.
Ridiculous.
H-1B visas are the main pathway to Indian tech talent.
71% of H-1B visa holders are Indian, with the next 12% being Chinese.
Then he goes Philippines, Canada, South Korea, Mexico, Taiwan, Pakistan.
Oh, is this where all the geniuses are living?
We don't have personnel that can keep up with India or the Philippines.
What would we do without infinite people from Taiwan and Mexico?
And then you have story after story after story.
Microsoft H-1B visa applications questions amid mass layoffs.
They fired 9,000 employees while applying for 6,000 high-skill work visas or H-1Bs.
Fire 9,000 Americans, hire 6,000 Indians, pocket the difference.
Microsoft dumps thousands of American workers in favor of cheap foreign techies.
And this is like every corporation, by the way.
It's like a very routine thing.
We covered something like a few days ago.
Same thing.
It was the same guy.
He like went from Delta where he did this.
Indian dude becomes CEO, offshores everything to India, goes gets a new job in a new company, offshores everything to India.
Like it's just a pattern that they do where they're literally just taking over corporations with Indians deliberately with their ethnic supremacy.
Like this is happening.
58% of U.S. graduates cannot find jobs.
Okay.
Let's get this number down to, I don't know, can at least half of our graduates find a job?
What if half the people we pump out of universities become employed?
Maybe then we'll be comfortable enough to offshore some of our jobs or inshore or whatever they call it.
U.S. job market has reached a new level in 2025, according to Fortune.
More than half of new college graduates, 58% are still looking for a job that's more than double the 25% of millennials, Gen Xers, and baby boomers looking for work right out of college in previous decades.
Don't worry, folks, you can always get a bunch of Indians.
Globally sourced scab workers are what they are.
Meanwhile, who even are these people?
These highly qualified Indians?
That Trump is so eager to replace Americans with?
Because we're standing on breadlines and can't be educated, apparently.
36,000 fake degrees sold, how one scandal shook India's education system.
India's academic sector has been shocked by the news of the sale of fake degrees by one of its most renowned universities.
Manav Bharti University, MBU, reportedly sold 36,000 fake degrees over 11 years for prices ranging from 100,000 to 300,000 rupees.
That's between 1.3 to 4,000 US dollars.
So all these highly skilled Indians that are just so much more capable than us stupid Americans with our indoor plumbing and our literacy and our ability to use trash cans.
They all just paid $1,000 and were given a bachelor's degree, sent that to a body shop in America, who funneled them to a corporation run by an Indian.
It's a giant scam.
All right, welcome back, folks.
I don't want to spend too much more time on H-1B visas because to truly describe the number of ways that they are a scam, it's just, it's too time-consuming.
Could just trust me on this.
But I will talk about it a little longer, but I will talk about it a little bit longer.
So you've got 36,000 degrees being sold for about $1,000 to anybody and everybody from one of India's top premier universities.
Isn't that wonderful?
In India, cheating mafias and coaching factories thrive on students' thirst for success.
73% of all Indians claimed that they cheated to achieve their goals.
You have 62.61.
I'm sorry, that's a different thing.
But yeah, 73% was the number that I heard.
India's exams are plagued by cheating.
India's education system is brutal.
The bar for entry to universities is extraordinarily high.
There's a nearly unlimited pool of applicants for the top institutions until it changes policies this year.
Delhi University, among the best, required prospective students to have scored at least 99% on their school leaving exams.
Cheating is extremely widespread.
It's also organized and elaborate.
In a survey in 2021 by Learning Spiral, a big provider of online exam software, 73% of university students admitted to cheating in online tests.
Niha, who teaches at an engineering college in Maharashtra, a Western state, reckons that 90% of her students cheat in some form.
This is the a lot of people, they post about this a lot.
PERM is one of the things they call it.
Ask for your perm to be advertised in a rural community in Oklahoma always gets approved that way.
Yeah, we need a full audit of the H-1B system, ASAP.
This is a post from Reddit where they're talking about how they are upset because they have to advertise for Americans in order to qualify for H-1B visas.
And so this person says, my perm is supposed to be filed next month and I'm up for promotion to manager.
I don't think perm will be approved given the current timelines.
This person says, have faith, perm will be approved.
You must be hopeful.
Ask for Perm to be advertised in a very rural community in OKC.
Always gets approved that way.
Yes, just advertise at a place where you know there are no applicants and that way you technically fulfill the obligation without complying to the spirit of the law whatsoever.
Matt Forney at RealMatt Forney has covered this quite a bit.
Whistleblower, formerly a Freddie Mac, discusses how Indians purge non-Indians from every company where they get power.
According to the whistleblower, Feddie Mac, Freddie Mac managers get a kickback for every consultant they add to projects, which has led to Indians within the organization bloating up teams with labor from another Indian body shop called TCS.
The whistleblower also reports that Indian managers will make up damning complaints about their American underlings to keep them from getting promoted.
The whistleblower quit his job upon discovering his green card holding Indian manager was doing this.
That was Freddie Mac, right?
A government-subsidized organization.
Also from Matt Forney, a whistleblower at GM Financial blew the lid on Indian ethnic depotism and discriminatory hiring.
According to the whistleblower, GM's financial IT department was recently taken over by Indians who were previously employed at Capital One and Amazon.
Upon their arrival, they immediately implemented stack ranking and began using it to get rid of non-Indian employees.
GM Financial experienced layoffs the first year.
The new CIO, Chitra Hurl, joined the company.
Hurl had previously worked at Silicon Valley Bank prior to their failure and worked at Capital One before that.
The laid-off employees were naturally replaced with Indian H-1Bs and contractors.
However, following Trump assuming office in January, the company put their foot down and refused to hire more H-1Bs.
GM Financial chose not to renew Hurl's contract recently and she departed from the company.
Again, this just happens over and over and over again.
Anybody involved in these corporations can tell you how this goes.
From Amanda Goodall, another person who's very good on this at The Job Chick on X, The Job Chick, 38,007.
That's how many H-1B approvals from just these 11 companies have racked up in 2025 so far.
So Amazon, JPMorgan Chase, Microsoft, Apple, Meta, Cisco, Tata Consultancy, Visa, AWS, that's Amazon Web Services, General Motors, and Amazon Data Services combined have hired 38,000 Indians.
That's 38,000 graduates without jobs.
That's 38,000 Americans being replaced.
It's 38,000 high-paying jobs in technical fields that are being farmed out to foreigners who are gaming the system with cheating results on their exams, with body shops funneling them in with CEOs that are serving their ethnic supremacy by firing white people and hiring their own.
And Trump's in favor of this.
All right, welcome back, folks.
If you want to know more about the way H-1B visas are a gigantic scam, we do have an article at Infowars.com by Patrick Howley.
Big companies get workers from H-1B only visa-only posts on underground Indian job board.
Major companies, including Apple, eBay, MasterCard, PayPal, and American Eagle, get workers from discriminatory H-1B-only or H-1B preferred ads posted by third-party clients in an underground job board owned by a man in India, according to bombshell evidence produced exclusively by Patrick Reports.
So, again, globally sourced scab workers competing for American jobs and doing it in a gamed and rigged system in which they discriminate against Americans fairly openly, and nothing's being done about this.
So, yeah, it has to end, and it is a deep betrayal of Trump to his own base to allow this to continue for any length of time.
Now, I'm not sure.
I was going to bring this up in the same thing as H-1B, but I'm not sure if they're talking about what type of immigration they're talking about here.
But this is why immigration is such a big deal.
From John Robb on X. At the municipality level, an immigration influx equals to 1%, that equals 1% of the local population, causes a 6% increase in rents and an 11% increase in house prices within five years.
And our influx is at 14%.
You want to talk about house prices rising.
You want to talk about the unaffordability crisis.
And this is from September 2025.
This is brand new.
And their study shows 1% boost in immigration leads to a 6% increase in rents and an 11% increase in house prices.
And we're not at 1%.
We're at 14%.
So, again, compounding issues here, compounding issues.
And then on top of that, you've got Trump saying this: clip number two.
He's in favor of 600,000 Chinese students coming into this country to get our education and go back home.
Let's watch.
laura ingraham
Folks are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of thousands of foreign students in the United States.
We have about 350,000 Chinese.
One point during COVID, you were going to, you know, push to get them out, but that was pulled back.
You've said as many as 600,000 Chinese students could come to the United States.
Why, sir, is that a pro-MAGA position when so many American kids want to go to school and there are places not for them and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money?
donald j trump
Sure.
Never said about China, but we do have a lot of people coming in from China.
We always have China and other countries.
We also have a massive system of colleges and universities.
And if we were to cut that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you would have half the colleges in the United States go out of business.
Well, I think that's a big deal.
laura ingraham
Are they fans?
donald j trump
You would have the United States.
Yeah, but you would have, as you know, historically, black colleges and universities would all be out of business.
You would have a system of colleges and universities.
unidentified
You're going to spend it on China to keep.
harrison smith
I didn't even hear that part last time I watched it.
Hold on.
We don't need to watch.
Oh, I heard it.
I heard it.
How much longer is this clip?
Still got a minute, 30 left.
unidentified
All right.
harrison smith
Well, let's just take a pause here.
Let's take a quick pause.
First of all, not the most compelling argument I've ever heard.
We have to let in 600,000 potential Chinese spies.
Otherwise, the rabid socialists that are destroying your relationship with your daughter aren't going to be able to do that anymore.
If we don't let in the 600,000 communist infiltrators, then how are the radical socialist communist blue-haired morons going to have all of their tenured, cushy, $100,000 jobs to teach children to hate us?
I mean, come on.
Without the influx of communist Chinese money and people, how are we going to keep afloat to these universities that are tearing us apart from the inside and the primary progenitor of the most poisonous ideologies the world has ever seen?
And they're black.
We have to let in the Chinese to save the black universities.
This is what MAGA was always about.
This is what MAGA's always been about: propping up the exclusionary racial universities with the communist Chinese money.
It's MAGA all the way to the core, folks.
What the hell are you talking about?
The real thing I was shocked at, how many Chinese students attend HSBCs.
Maybe I'm about to be shocked here.
Maybe I'm about to be shocked.
I've seen footage from historical black universities.
I don't see a lot of Chinese walking around there.
I don't see a lot of Chinese.
But let's say, I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong.
HSBC most likely refers to Peking University HSBC Business School.
Okay, Grok.
All right.
Grok's being an idiot.
Let's try again.
I'll have to type it out for him.
How many students?
I'm sorry, how many Chinese students?
All right, well, we'll let Trump go.
I'll figure out how many Chinese students are propping up the historical black universities.
I didn't realize this.
I didn't realize that our precious historical black universities, you know, the one where if a white guy goes and sets up a table saying, change my mind, the entire school comes out to attack him with a screwdriver and destroy all of his stuff.
And then they all make monkey noises while he's forced out of the campus along with the security guards who facilitate the excess.
You know, these beautiful bastions of learning, right?
Where all of these upstanding students go to learn the values that make America great.
When in reality, I don't know when this video was.
It was like right after Charlie Kirk's death.
I'm sure people remember two guys went out to do like a Charlie Kirk thing, set up a little table, and within five minutes are literally surrounded by people like threatening them with the screwdrivers.
The cops are staying there while people go up and like rip stuff off their table.
And then when the student gets up to grab his stuff back, the cop steps in to stop him from getting the thing that was just stolen from him.
When you have the entire student body gathering to assault him and attack him for trying to have free speech, you know, well, the point I'm making here is historically black colleges, I'm happy for them to exist, but as they exist now, they are hives of extremism, of anti-whitism, of anti-Americanism.
They are poisonous at this point.
I mean, it's bad enough seeing the way college campuses, you know, have this just mob of Antifa to attack anybody that's not there.
But with HSBC, it's like every student in the college comes out to screech at the white guys for daring to want to have a conversation about politics.
So, but, but we must uphold them.
We must uplift them.
We must let in 600,000 Chinese spies to achieve this.
Let's go back to Trump.
I'll explain all of this on the other side.
Yes, it's about Israel, obviously.
And if that sounds crazy, it's not.
It's really not.
Let's go back to Trump.
unidentified
So we're dependent on China to keep our university system going.
donald j trump
I think it's good to have, I actually think it's good to have outside countries.
Look, I want to be able to get along with the world.
laura ingraham
They're not the French.
They're the Chinese.
They spy on us.
They steal our intellectual property.
donald j trump
Do you think the French are better?
Yes.
Really?
I'll tell you.
I'm not saying sure.
We've had a lot of problems with the French where we get taxed very unfairly on our technology.
You know, they put 25% taxes on American products.
Look, assuming everyone treats us badly, because that's the way I am, but we take in trillions of dollars from students.
You know, the students pay more than double when they come in from most foreign countries.
I want to see our school system thrive, but at the same time, I want to be, I know you and I disagree.
We're never going to agree on that.
That's okay.
And it's not that I want them, but I view it as a business.
We have millions and millions of people.
Also, I want to get along with countries if possible.
You know, people are shocked.
Remember, Hillary Clay said, we'll be in a war.
I stopped eight wars in the last nine months.
I don't want to be in wars.
If I am in a war, we're going to win the thing fast and it'll be violent.
But you know what?
I don't want to be in wars.
But one thing: you don't want to cut half of the people, half of the students from all over the world that are coming into our country, destroy our entire university and college system.
I don't want to do that.
laura ingraham
I wouldn't let anybody.
donald j trump
And don't forget, MAGA was my idea.
MAGA was nobody else's idea.
I know what MAGA wants better than anybody else.
And MAGA wants to see our country thrive.
harrison smith
MAGA wants to see, MAGA wants to see 600,000.
That would be a doubling of the current number of Chinese students.
And talk to anybody that's at a university that has an overwhelming number of Chinese students.
You'll hear horror stories.
Not only is the cheating behavior that they learned in their culture in China completely rampant, they all cheat.
They all are in WhatsApp groups.
We've heard this over and over.
Ask anybody who's attended school with them.
But they are all radical communists.
Do you think China would allow somebody that's not a radical communist to come over?
What do you think the social credit score is for?
If you're not wholeheartedly dedicated to the Chinese communist cause, do you think your credit score is going to be high enough to get a multi-year pass to leave the country?
No, the only people coming over here are A, the rich from China.
It means they're members of the Chinese Communist Party.
Nobody in China is rich if you're not a part of the party.
So if you're paying double what Americans pay to go to university, it's because you're wealthy.
So you're literally bringing over like the cream of the crop Chinese communist agitators to this country.
They tend to all go to the same schools, schools that we are teaching students like important engineering about like weapon systems and stuff.
The Chinese students are learning this and taking it right back to China.
In the best case scenario, worst case scenario, they stay here and take one of our jobs.
Best case scenario, they simply are educated in our university system, taking our intellectual property, taking the effort and the energy expended to teach a student and taking it back to benefit their home country, which not only robs us of that, there was an American out there that could have been in those lecture halls, but was kept out in favor of the Chinese infiltrators.
What the hell are you talking about, Trump?
That is so unbelievably crazy.
And it's like he wants to take it from right now, there is on the record 277,000 Chinese students in America.
Is he of the belief that the American system will collapse if we don't double that number?
Even taking the argument on its face, if the university system exists now with 277,000, why would you have to add 330,000 more to keep it afloat?
The whole thing's going to fall apart.
Half the universities are going to go bankrupt.
If we don't double the number of Chinese students we have, why aren't they bankrupt now?
Like, none of this makes sense, Trump.
My God.
So I got Grok to figure out what the hell I was saying.
How many Chinese students attend historical black historic black universities in America?
Chinese students attend historically black universities in very small numbers with no comprehensive, comprehensive national data providing an exact total across all 100 HBCUs.
Available sources indicate that international students overall make up only a small fraction of HBCU enrollment, only around 2.5% of undergraduates per estimate.
And Chinese students specifically are a minor subset of that minor subset, often fewer than 10 to 20 per major HBCU where data is reported.
So Trump thinks That HBCUs are going to collapse if we don't let in 600,000 Chinese students when there's something like 10 to 20 Chinese students that attend HBCUs.
That doesn't make any sense.
unidentified
That doesn't make any sense.
harrison smith
So I don't know what there is, you know, what more there is to say about that, but that just doesn't make any sense.
Spelman College is a HBCU and it focuses on Chinese language and culture programs, but has no Chinese enrollment.
Morehouse College ranks 981st nationally for Chinese student popularity with very few around 14 total international students, not just Chinese, 14 total international students.
But we have to let in 600,000 or else the poor, beautiful, precious HBCUs will collapse.
The U.S. lost an average of 11,000 jobs every week in October per CNBC.
Are you getting the picture I'm trying to paint here?
There's no reason to do any of this.
There's no reason we need any of these people.
This is just a gigantic scam, and Trump's going along with it.
It's absolute betrayal.
I mean, what is happening?
Honestly, what is happening right now?
It gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse.
Levitt says October CPI and data and jobs data likely never to be released.
Okay, great.
That bad, huh?
We brought in so many Indians.
Jeez, I really thought that would have worked.
Honestly.
What's happening?
What is going on?
Why is Trump reversing 180 degrees on his core positions?
This is nuts.
This is nuts.
I just, all right.
All right.
Well, we'll move on, but it's just like, what are we doing?
unidentified
What are we doing here?
harrison smith
That's just absolutely bizarre.
From based and biased one, based American, 50-year mortgages, thinking H-1Bs are making U.S. missiles.
Oh, that's the other thing.
He's like, you can't just take people off the street to make missiles.
Missiles and armament, national security defense corporations are some of the only corporations that are still even vaguely American because you have to be a citizen to work at one, like a long-term citizen, because it's national security implications.
So there's this weird thing.
It's another weird thing where like American superiority around the world has been utterly destroyed, eviscerated, disintegrated by our participation in these exercises overseas of mass murder with no particular point.
But at the same time, one of the only industries that by law cannot be hollowed out and given to foreigners, therefore is one of the primary pillars upholding our entire economy are the weapons manufacturers that create the weapons to wage the wars overseas that are destroying America.
So in this weird way, it's the people that have destroyed America that are like the last bastion of American employment because they build missiles.
And here Trump is saying we need Indians to come in and build our missiles for us.
It's actually not possible.
Actually, it's one of the very, very few corporations, organizations, industries, the weapons industries that you cannot work in as an H-1B or visa holder whatsoever.
Now, that is even like a distinction that doesn't quite matter anymore because we just saw how many people are being hired by Microsoft and Amazon Web Services.
These are the digital infrastructure that uphold our national security that our Pentagon operates on.
So, why you would let Visa workers, foreigners work in those organizations also doesn't make any sense, but they're not under the same restrictions that the weapons manufacturers are.
So, it's all a little bit weird, but it's just another thing that Trump is just stupidly wrong about.
I'm not trying to be, but like, what am I supposed to say about all this?
Trump can say something else.
Trump can do something different.
Trump can actually benefit Americans, and then we'll have a chance to actually save this country.
But if he keeps going down the road, he's going down, he's like a bigger threat than the left at this point.
50-year mortgages, thinking H-1Bs are making U.S. missiles, abysmal deportation numbers, Antifa still mobilizing against TPOSA, walking back the $100,000 H-1B sponsorships, Rhinos refusing to gerrymander, Republicans infighting, communists getting elected mayor of the world's financial hub, AG getting elected after fantasizing about murdering Republican children, Tucker being ostracized by APAC-funded Congress members.
Am I missing anything?
I mean, that, yeah, there's a bunch.
There's a bunch that you're missing.
I'm reading this off the screen, by the way.
It's just, you know, what are we supposed to do?
H-1B visa program in a nutshell.
H-1B sponsorship approved through an IT body shop called Babatech.
The job doesn't actually exist.
Other body shops pile on.
We'll help you get to America, give you food and housing, but we'll take 30% of your salary.
Again, this is like an indentured servitude kind of thing that they're operating under.
So much for high-skilled immigration.
Bloomberg just exposed how H-1B staffing firms, guys, y'all on my screen, literally sell visa slots for $1,800 a pop and offer multiple filings for $10,000 INR each.
They're not hiring engineers.
They're running a lottery scam, and U.S. grads are the ones paying the price.
Every policymaker and immigration attorney defending the H-1B system should have to explain this screenshot.
And it's a conversation between the hiring firm and the Indians that they're selling out our birthright to.
So wonderful.
So you might get blocked out of college from the 600,000 Chinese students.
And even if you're able to make it into college and be saddled with the debt because there's absolutely no scholarships available to you, because most scholarships are, you know, reserved for certain ethnic minorities that you're not a part of, and you graduate and want to get a job, well, that job's likely going to go to an Indian who is outsourcing his job to another Indian as they systematically run through the control systems of big tech.
And so it's just like, what is the point of any of this?
Why are we doing any of this?
What is even the argument for this?
What do we not understand about America first?
Why has Trump in the last week decided he's the president of the world and that MAGA means a doubling of Chinese students and unlimited Indians taking all of our jobs?
What the hell is going on?
It's honestly my question.
We'll go to more videos.
Let's go to clip six here.
Because again, it's like I actually heard Nick Fuentes talking about this, and I agree with how he put it.
Because he was saying that, you know, when Trump started off, it was a small team.
It was self-funded.
It was energetic.
It was rambunctious.
It was, you know, unleashed, uncontained, uncontrolled.
And it was exciting and he'd make some insane statements and everybody would love it.
And then the donors got involved and then the establishment came in to give him advice and help him out.
And that's definitely what's going on here.
And because they are still arguing in this like fundamentally leftist paradigm where they are talking about HBCUs.
Like who cares?
Who cares?
If you want to have a black university, fine.
Why does it have to be an endless welfare sink for the rest of us?
If HBCUs want to go pump out graduates that, you know, become alumni and donate money and keep them afloat, wonderful.
Have at it.
I don't think we should have to be paying billions of dollars a year.
And I definitely don't think we should be bringing in 600,000 Chinese to keep them afloat somehow.
It doesn't even make sense.
This is betrayal.
And it's inexplicable because it's so easy to not make these mistakes.
It's so easy to not make these choices.
And the threat is nothing.
So I'll show you the clip on the other side, but it's Scott Bessant being like, don't worry, only the lowest income people are going to get the $2,000 check.
Okay.
So it's like, we can't get anything because we have to fund the SNAP program for the 40 million people that are going out getting their nails done with the iPhone 17, but somehow have to be on food stamps.
And we're not going to get any.
So it's just serving your enemies.
Just the Trump administration just serving their enemies exclusively.
All right.
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Okay.
Let me explain how this is all Israel's fault.
Let me tie everything I've talked about so far into the fact that it's Israel.
Why are we letting in 600,000 Chinese students, doubling the number that are currently here, 277,000, over doubling it?
Because that was a key concession that Trump made during his negotiations with China over their trade over our trade agreement with them this year.
Another primary sticking point of that was, of course, the sale of TikTok from China to Larry Ellison so he could install an IDF soldier at the heart of the operation in order to silence anybody that speaks out against Israel or the Jewish diaspora.
So that's why we're taking in 600,000 Chinese students because that was the concession necessary for America to make so Israel could control an important social media company here in America.
That's what it's about.
That's why Trump's having trouble defending it because it's not actually good for America.
It's not actually keeping HBCUs alive.
That's ridiculous.
Like a dozen Chinese students in any HBCU anywhere.
It's not upholding our university system and we wouldn't even want our university system propped up like that anyway if it was possible.
No, the reason that Trump conceded to allow a doubling of the Chinese students is because that was one of the stipulations that China required to allow them to sell TikTok to Larry Ellison so that he could censor anti-Semitism.
Okay.
Don't tell me it's not important.
Don't tell me Israel is a distraction.
It's the driving force behind all this other crap.
It's infuriating, but that's just the case.
All right.
So if you were wondering why I was saying that, there's why.
Because that $600,000 agreement was established during the tariff negotiations.
A primary sticking point was China's unwillingness to sell TikTok.
Trump had to make some concessions there.
By the way, I mentioned this on X. Do you know Miriam Adelson, Trump's best friend, Israel's greatest warrior, whatever, person who gave $200 million to Trump and therefore bought his second presidency, apparently?
The person that Trump does everything for, is willing to do anything for, right?
Constitution be damned.
The American people be damned.
Miriam Adelson's his man, right?
You know, she doesn't own any casinos in America, right?
Do you know where she owns casinos?
She's Israeli.
She made her wealth in Las Vegas.
She still owns some stake in the Las Vegas Sands Corporation, which runs a couple casinos, but that's not where her money is now.
That's not where her billions are generated.
They're generated in Macau and Singapore, which are both under the auspices of the Chinese Communist Party.
So why is it that one of Trump's top advisors, a woman who seems glued to his side, her ridiculous face is constantly popping up, smiling like an idiot, her hair going everywhere, you know, being congratulated by Trump for being such an Israeli patriot, her billions, her entire wealth is in the control of the Communist Party of China, who could come in at any moment.
And, you know, they're not shy about it.
China, unlike America, will just throw a billionaire's ass in prison.
If a billionaire misbehaves according to the Chinese Communist Party, that company's theirs now.
And he's in jail.
And somebody else is put at the head.
That's exactly what they would do to Miriam Adelson if she didn't play ball with them.
I don't know what exactly she does to play ball with them.
But if China is Trump's biggest enemy, why would they allow Trump's biggest contributor to fund Trump off of money she makes in casinos that they control?
Probably because they're getting something from her.
Can't you see the conversation right now?
Can't you see Miriam Adelson getting a call from one of the managers of her corporation there in Macau saying, hey, the Chinese government's here, and they're not happy.
And they're saying they're going to pull our licenses.
This whole operation could be shut down.
You've poured billions of dollars into this.
You stand to gain billions of dollars.
And the Chinese government is here saying they're going to take it all away this afternoon.
But they need something from you.
Unless you can give them a reason not to shut you down, they're going to confiscate your entire casino empire tonight.
These are the people that Trump surrounds himself by.
Israelis, whose entire fortune is tied up in Chinese businesses, are his number one advisor and number one contributor.
unidentified
Realize how crazy that is?
harrison smith
You think China wouldn't do that?
Why not?
Like, why wouldn't they?
This is the thing.
I was talking about my predictions earlier and how accurate they tend to be because they're not complicated to figure out.
And I'll tell you the secret.
Tell you the secret ingredient to being right about the world around you.
Imagine you're a psychopath.
Imagine you are a just inhuman monster.
Imagine you're the worst person in the entire world.
And then just, you know, predict what you would do then.
Like, if you were in charge and you're a deviant scumbag, what would you do?
And then you can just predict the elite, you know, two years out because it's the truth.
So put yourself in the mindset of the Chinese Communist Party.
Are they going to give Miriam Adelson the benefit of the doubt?
Are they going to, you know, sure, she can make billions of dollars out?
Like, they're not us.
They're not retarded.
They aren't interested in selling out their people or offshoring their economy.
They actually care about their people to some degree, in some way.
Yeah, I know most of them are miserable and poverty-stricken.
And yeah, they'll throw you in a chair where they lock your arms to the arms of the chair and leave you there for a couple of days so you can starve to death.
I'm not celebrating the Chinese Communist Party.
I'm saying that they're pragmatic and aggressive and unashamed at using their state power to progress their people's interests, which is not being served by allowing Trump's greatest contributor to make billions of dollars off of them unless they get something worth it in return.
So why do you think the negotiations with China over the trade agreement seem so one-sided?
Why is it that at the end of the day, not only is TikTok sold to Larry Ellison so that he can censor on behalf of Israel and America in return gets 600,000 Chinese students because we're being screwed over by every level from hostile foreigners from Miriam Adelson to Xi Jinping working hand in hand to screw over Trump who's being played like a fiddle,
who's being puppeteered willingly, it seems at this point.
Yeah, it matters.
Yeah.
This connection to Israel we have is destroying us.
It is the primary engine of our destruction.
Now, Antifa, I'm going to tell you where they came from.
Attacked the TPOSA event.
I played some videos yesterday during our interview with Stuart Rhodes.
One of the videos that was really kind of painful to watch was a video of a conservative guy, a TPSA guy, who was trying to sell t-shirts.
He was wearing a cross.
He was sitting up, you know, standing up in front of his thing.
He was surrounded by Agitators, rioters, Antifa, who stole all of his stuff.
And when he went chasing after the guy who was stealing his stuff, he was attacked.
The Christian guy, the white guy, never threw a punch.
Yet, after being bloodied, he was arrested.
And now we have confirmation of who it was that attacked him, who bloodied him.
The man's name is Jihad.
I'm not even kidding.
From post-colonial.
Rioter named Jihad arrested for assault after Antifa violence at Berkeley TPOSA event.
A rioter with the name Jihad has been arrested and charged with assault and robbery after being involved in the chaos of the TPOSA event at the University of California, Berkeley, according to police.
Jihad.
I'm going to try this one.
I'm going to do it.
DeFripoles.
DeFripoles.
DPH.
How do you pronounce DPH, please?
I'm sorry.
Can a vampire with a lisp tell me how to pronounce this freaking name?
Two Zs.
They got two Z's at the end.
And his first name is Jihad.
And look at that face.
I think he should replace Nancy Pelosi.
I think Nancy Pelosi is retiring this year.
I think we have a replacement.
I think everybody can say hello to Congressman Jihad.
This is all he needs.
He doesn't even need to campaign.
He can be like, hey, you know the guy that assaulted the white Christian guy and then got him arrested at the TPOSA event after we killed Charlie Kirk?
That was me.
And he'll get 90% of the vote off that alone.
And look, now the white guy gets arrested.
Guys, see if you can find the video.
There's video from sort of bird's eye view, and you can see the whole thing.
The guy in the red shirt is literally standing there.
This other guy, Jihad, runs up, knocks over his table, knocks over all of his stuff.
The guy in the red shirt chases after him, grabs onto him, never throws a punch.
He's left bloodied.
Now both of them are arrested.
The white guy was arrested for, I guess, being assaulted.
Didn't even fight back.
Had his stuff stolen.
Surrounded by a mob.
And I've got statements.
Oh, and boy, you know, in response to this, I mean, the Trump administration has issued the most powerful statements, okay?
They don't mean anything.
Nothing's happened.
But they're outraged, guys.
Trust us.
Antifa is an existential threat to our nation, says Attorney General Pam Bondi.
The violent riots at UC Berkeley last night are under full investigation by an FBI-led terrorism task force.
We will continue to spare no expense on masking all who commit orchestrated acts of political violence.
That's a misspelling.
That's fine.
She's just the Attorney General of the United States.
Under President Trump's leadership and pursuant to his executive order, designating Antifa as a terrorist organization, the Department of Justice and our law enforcement partners are dismantling violent networks to seek to intimidate Americans and suppress their free speech and First Amendment rights.
Really?
What does that mean?
What do you mean you're dismantling violent networks?
unidentified
How?
harrison smith
What?
But how, though?
Who have you arrested?
What have you dismantled?
Which communications have you seized?
Which bank accounts have you closed down?
Who have you thrown into prison?
Who are you charging with the RICO crime?
You haven't done anything.
It was October 8th, October 8th, over a month ago, that people who had recently been beaten by Antifa, a woman with a black eye from a recent assault by Antifa was in the White House telling you exactly what you needed to do and what you were doing.
And you gave the most strident and powerful speeches about the need to round these organizations up.
Nothing has happened.
Nothing.
The only people in America who have been indicted in any way associated with Antifa are the people that engaged in a military-style ambush trying to murder ICE agents in Texas.
They at least have been indicted.
But unless you literally have a gun and are shooting at ICE agents, you're not even being looked at.
So again, it's almost worse.
Shut up, Pam Bondi.
Shut up, Dylan.
Shut up, Kash Patel.
Shut up.
If you dismantle Antifa, we'll learn about it.
You don't need to tell us.
I don't want to hear anything else.
If you arrest Antifa, we'll know you're doing something about it.
When you storm in with the Marines and haul them away in a truck and charge them with federal crimes that stick, you won't have to say a damn thing.
We'll see it on the news.
So save it, Pambondi, save it.
Carmi Dylan.
I don't want to hear another word.
It doesn't matter what you say.
You're either lying or you're wrong or whatever.
I don't know.
I don't know what it is, but when something happens, we'll know about it.
And that's what we care about.
It's like the inverse of like when kids ask, are we there yet?
It's like, we're still driving in the car.
We're not there, right?
It's like you don't have to keep asking.
You don't have to keep telling us.
I don't know.
It's just there's something about this where it's like it's worse than just not doing anything.
You're just teasing us at this point.
And again, the outrage I feel at the betrayal of the Trump administration, the utter incompetence, it is so infuriating at this point, precisely because it is a choice they're making.
Going back to the first thing I said on this show, this is a choice.
We know it's a choice because we've seen Trump act, we've seen his administration act with extreme, unprecedented, I would say illegal rapidity and aggressiveness when it's something they care about.
This again is just, this is, it's so unbelievably insulting that we as Americans have been begging for years for something to be done about the universities.
People bringing up Trump's tweet from 2017 saying, UC Berkeley is out of control.
They led Antifa riot.
They're invoking the heckler's veto.
I won't allow this.
Now, he was president at the time, did nothing about it.
Here we are, whatever, eight years later, still not doing anything about it.
And the whole time, these universities have been engines of communism, engines of anti-white hate, engines of transgenderism and radical leftist politics the entire time.
They teach courses called abolish whiteness.
Their newspapers print articles saying your DNA is evil, white people.
Evil will only be eradicated from the earth when white people no longer exist.
And we, the American people, who are the target of the left's ire, target of the left's violence, the ones who have fought for Trump, got him elected, broke with our friends and family over our support for him, and we get nothing.
And here we are, 10 months in to a second administration, and we're having to beg for them to do anything, and they won't even do it.
unidentified
They won't even do it.
harrison smith
When at the exact same time, you have them moving heaven and earth, not because universities are teaching classes saying abolish the Jews, right?
Not because, you know, people are going in and being told, your DNA is evil, Jewish people.
And this is an official statement from the university newspaper, but because students on those universities chose to protest the genocide going on in Gaza being done with our money and in many cases, money from the university itself.
So again, it's not, this is not inequal.
It's not that it's happening to them and it's happening to us.
They get attention.
We get kicked.
It's we actually are under attack from the university system.
The university systems have been infiltrated and warped and perverted to the point where their primary output is radical leftist, anti-white idiots.
And we can't get anything done about that.
We can't get anything done about the mobs of Antifa allowed to run wild and attack mothers and their children trying to go to a TPSA event.
But there's a little university in Massachusetts.
And yesterday, some students there wanted to hold a protest, wanted to hold a demonstration, a memorial sort of service for all of the children killed by Israel in Gaza.
Do you want to see how the university responded to that?
Would you like to see what happens if you dare to protest the genocidal behavior of the Israeli nation on American campuses?
Because you can go to an American campus, you can stand right in front of a cop, and you can say, Charlie Kirk deserved to die, and I hope you're next, and we're coming for you, and nothing will happen.
But if you dare to feel sorrow for the babies that Israel has killed by the tens of thousands, you want to see how you'll be treated?
Clip number eight, let's watch.
unidentified
Back up!
Let's go!
Catch it!
Catch it!
harrison smith
And there's just, there's just a, there's an insulting quality to the attention, to the care, to the aggressiveness, to the things that the Trump administration is willing to do.
that the university administrations are willing to do.
They will slam you to the ground and arrest you for holding a sign at a pro-Palestine contest.
But if you're a TPOSA speaker, it's being assaulted and having blasts thrown at you, you'll get a strongly worded letter two days later from somebody in the DOJ.
So again, you know, it's just, you can just imagine.
You can just, you know, you don't even really need to imagine because it does exist for the Jews.
They do have a government that represents them, cares about their interests, goes to extraordinary lengths to serve them, make them comfortable, make them safe.
So you really don't even have to imagine, but you could imagine if white people had a nation.
Wouldn't that be something?
Pending our interests.
They're just Americans, any race, color, and creed.
We don't have that.
So there's just something, there's just something pathetic about the lack of action from the Trump administration.
And it's just, it's just insulting, honestly.
It's just infuriating.
I mean, I don't know if you remember, just this year, Trump administration has aggressively targeted Ivy League universities, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Brown, Cornell, and Dartmouth through executive orders, federal investigations, and financial penalties, primarily citing failures to combat campus anti-Semitism amid pro-Palestinian protest.
Again, not even something they should even be doing.
College students are allowed to protest, and they can.
They can protest whatever they want, whenever they want, except for Israel.
And in that case, the whole of the federal government goes into hyperdrive to hold Harvard over.
I mean, they're ready to destroy Harvard.
Not because they were in there.
Again, just because Harvard's the best example, Harvard, a Harvard professor taught a class called abolishing whiteness.
Okay?
There was nothing even remotely the equivalent of that when it came to Jews.
No, no, no.
It was just that people protested the actions of the Israeli state murdering tens of thousands of Palestinians, civilians.
And for just allowing free speech on their campus that conflicted with the desires of the Israeli lobby, they've had the book thrown at them.
They froze their funds, billions in federal research grants and contracts frozen or canceled.
$2.2 billion from Harvard in April.
$1 billion from Cornell.
$510 million from Brown, $400 million from Columbia, $175 million from Penn.
This pressured schools into compliance, causing hiring freezes, layoffs, and austerity measures.
Most Ivy's capitulated with deals restoring funds in exchange for fines and payment.
And they basically just unleashed the entire toolbox of federal funding and restrictions and compliance measures.
But don't worry, they sent a strongly worded letter to UC Berkeley after a mob attacked Antifa members.
I mean, TPOSA.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
This is the war room.
I'm in studio with the one and only bubbly little fairy of doom herself, Tiffany Ciancy.
I was already in a bad mood when she got here, so it's not her fault.
tiffany cianci
I'm here to cheer you up.
harrison smith
Yeah, it's okay.
Well, we'll give it our best shot.
I'm trying not to be blackpilled, but it's very hard.
Let me introduce you first.
Tiffany Ciancy, of course, an activist raising awareness about the critical threat that private equity poses to the American society.
She's raising the alarm and putting pressure on private equity firms that are covertly monopolizing entire industries by using hostile takeovers and kangaroo courts.
You can follow her on X at theVinoMom and TiffanyCianci.com.
And is it the same on TikTok?
tiffany cianci
On TikTok, I'm Tiffany Ciancy.
harrison smith
Tiffany Cianci on TikTok.
Thanks so much.
And yeah, you come in here, you always have a, you pay attention to stuff that I don't really pay attention to sometimes.
So you always have new things for me to be depressed and horrified about, but it's a good thing.
We want to know this stuff.
And at least you deliver it in a bubbly way so we don't feel like we're being beaten over the head with absurdity.
tiffany cianci
That's because I still have hope.
I still have hope and I still believe that we can do something.
I just think we don't have a lot of time left to do things.
harrison smith
But I'm willing to be convinced because I also think we're running out of time extremely rapidly.
And we got a lot of stuff that I know you have a lot to say about the 50-year mortgages.
There's a Maha summit today.
Andrew's talking to me about THC.
There's a lot of stuff.
Where do you want to start?
Should we start with Maha?
unidentified
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
I mean, there's some good news with Maha and there's a lot of bad news with Maha.
So we can kind of like balance that one, I think.
harrison smith
Okay, well, let's start with Maha because today was the official Maha Summit.
tiffany cianci
Yeah.
harrison smith
And I guess it is today, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
harrison smith
So this is still going on.
And we've got the sort of rundown here for the Maha Summit.
And it's got some interesting segments.
Things like making American biotechnology accelerate.
Wonderful.
Psychedelic medicine.
That's kind of cool.
Food is medicine.
I like that.
But then you've got reversing age and brain-computer-computer interfaces.
There is a mix here.
There seems like there's some good and there's some bad.
tiffany cianci
Why does this if by mix you mean there are 10 tech bro-led panels and one that actually talks about natural health?
And yeah, we've got a lot.
We've got a healthy mix here.
harrison smith
10%.
10% of the stuff.
tiffany cianci
10% is actually about what Maha has stood for years.
And the rest is about tech bros trying to capitalize on the popularity of Maha and galvanize it to make money instead of a difference.
harrison smith
Okay.
How did this happen?
tiffany cianci
I mean, I hate to say it, but like it sort of happened the day that Maha got to DC.
We have people like Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who you know I have a great deal of esteem for, for his perspectives on private equity.
He had me draft some of his white papers and his policy perspectives on what he would do with private equity if he were elected president.
And so I've spent a lot of time with him and his work on advocating for the removal of the most dangerous pesticides from our food supply, on providing access to healthy food throughout his career.
And his work on cleaning up the environment like he did in the Hudson River is just, it's profound, right?
The work he's done is profound.
But there's a thing about DC, which Brett Weinstein actually sent over a clip.
I don't know if they were able to pull it.
Brett Weinstein, who's a very, very good friend of Bobby's, just recently went on Joe Rogan.
And he basically said, when good people go to DC and they try to do good things, they are very quickly corrupted and stopped.
And he thinks Maha is essentially dead on arrival and that it just can't overcome the roadblocks being put up for it, which is just horrifying to see Brett Weinstein say something like that.
But at the same time, we just watched two Maha Commission reports, which we talked about on my last visit, right?
We watched the first Maha Commission report say that they had to get deadly pesticides out of our food supply.
And in the second one, all mention of pesticides were removed, just like from the Maha Summit today.
We're no longer talking about pesticides, except that we're allocating several millions of dollars to create a new educational campaign to let all of us know how good for us they are.
harrison smith
Excellent.
tiffany cianci
Simultaneously, they're talking about giving billions of dollars to farmers, but that was also co-opted by the agrochemical lobby so that they're tying a bunch of these subsidies that our regional family farms, our regenerative farmers, our organic farmers really need that help right now, especially with the loss of like soybeans and all of that.
And the agro chems came in and they were able to co-opt it and tie a bunch of those subsidies to only buying pesticides with them.
harrison smith
Oh, my God.
tiffany cianci
So that we can't get healthy food.
And then you have this Maha Commission report that even though it removed all mention of pesticides, it does say a lot about the fact that children and childhood obesity is really only going to be overcome if we give children access to healthy food, while the USDA stripped all of the healthy food programs.
That's where we chose to make real cuts.
Doge could have made real cuts and we could have enacted all of that to save money.
And instead, we caught all of the healthy food programs.
We have some states that are trying to circumvent all of those cuts and do good things, like Michigan, California, Hawaii, West Virginia.
A lot of them are giving their regional farmers direct grants to provide their organic, healthy food to schools to feed real food.
And Boston is doing good work with this too, actually.
But what we've seen is a movement that got there to clean up our food supply, to engage in real science and the scientific process to get pesticides out of our food.
And what we've come down to is everyone's going to have a wearable.
We're going to keep all of the same business as usual for all the agrochemical companies.
No one's going to touch pesticides.
And in fact, we're going to tell everybody they're dumb for thinking we should, even though every other country on earth has banned them and they're healthier there for it.
And by the way, no one pay attention to the fact that farmers have the highest lymphoma rate by like triple.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
What could, what could, you know, it's, it's hard to watch.
harrison smith
Yeah, it is.
And so what do you, what do you think is behind this?
Because I never expected RFK Jr. to be able to fix everything because I've read his book.
You know, you read, I've said it a million times, but you read the real Anthony Fauci and it's like every, you know, it's like peeling back layers of the onion.
And it's just the corruption was so deep and so baked in that it was like, okay, you need to just gordy and not that.
You need to just slice it all and start over.
Obviously, he wasn't able to do that.
So I've been surprised at the success that he has had.
I mean, the autism stuff is pretty remarkable.
Removing vaccines from the, you know, the system or whatever, the routine.
That's been good.
I've been very happy with what RFK Jr. has been able to do.
I never expected him to be a miracle worker, but it sounds like what you're saying is like some of the stuff, we're not just not, we're not fighting back.
We're actually progressing the other side.
tiffany cianci
Yeah, I agree with that.
And that's because in order for Maha to actually function, we needed all of the health agencies to buy into Maha.
And what happened was I think that Trump's team very clearly saw that there was immense popularity on both sides of the aisle for the idea of making our children healthy again and making our food supply cleaner.
harrison smith
Right.
Hard to argue against that.
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
How do you not want to see our children healthy?
We are sicker than any nation on the planet.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
Right.
But it would have required us to get buy-in at the EPA and the USDA.
And instead, what happened was to pacify the donor base.
We got, in my opinion, probably a Susie Wiles negotiation because she was also, remember, she was a huge lobbyist and negotiated all of Pfizer's demands during COVID, right?
Susie Wiles made the trade-off.
We're going to give Bobby Kennedy HHS.
We're going to use Doge to plant a bunch of like darlings of CEO, Accent Healthcare, people all around him to roadblock him.
But then what we're going to do is we're going to put in agrochemical lobbyists in charge of the EPA.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
And we're going to put a bunch of lobbyist darlings for industrial food companies in charge of the USDA.
And then we're going to consolidate more power, which is why our food costs are skyrocketed.
Right.
They're talking about nobody's talking about doing anything about the monopoly that is limiting our ability to have access to clean meat in this country.
And now we're going to buy it from Argentina.
That's the next thing we're going to do is buy it from Argentina.
But if we had put somebody that was actually Maha-aligned and wanted us to have access to clean, healthy eating over at the USDA and we had not stripped all of the programs that were actually furthering that agenda, we could be making massive differences right now.
And instead, we gave the people a carrot in Bobby and then cut him off at the knees with the agencies he needed to work with them.
And it's horrifying to watch.
And looking at this summit schedule today, everybody on here is some kind of a private equity tech bro that saw the value in the popularity of Maha and said, instead of fixing it, what if we could monetize it?
Which is what every healthcare company has done.
There's absolutely no benefit in curing anything when you can make subscriptions for your lifetime for treating illnesses.
Why would we cure anything, right?
harrison smith
We call that maximizing profit.
tiffany cianci
Well, that's what we're seeing on the tech side now.
We see, why was there a crypto section at the Maha Summit?
Like, why is there crypto founders here?
Why, like, it doesn't.
What's happened is we have a bunch of people that are making a lot of money and they're looking the other way and it's working.
harrison smith
This is so upsetting.
I thought I was blackbilled before.
tiffany cianci
But we have states that are working hard to change that, right?
It has just happened that in California, they've set up, and I know everybody doesn't want to hear California.
harrison smith
Well, look, one place where California does things right is they do have like health requirements that other states don't have.
That I agree with warnings that they have, that I completely getting ultra processed foods out of their lunches for kids.
tiffany cianci
That is something that we could have done at the USDA.
We should have done, and so they also are seeing the benefit of Maha and they're going to try and galvanize it to the left again.
Right, because it started as a left idea until we realized we all want our kids healthy, right.
Right, and so they are making it where farmers can directly get food into cafeterias.
Right, Boston is doing that too.
Right now, Boston has moved to a place where like 65 of all of their school kitchens are now making from scratch food for their, for their students, and a lot of it's Coming from regional farmers.
And by next year, they're supposed to have three central kitchens that are doing 100% scratch food, no more ultra-processed prison food, which we've been buying prison food for kids for the last 20 years.
harrison smith
Wait, so you're telling me that there can be local farmers and ranchers who sell their food to schools who prepare it in healthy lunches for kids?
This is insane.
tiffany cianci
That's happening also.
It's starting to happen in Virginia.
It's starting to happen in Michigan.
They're moving towards it in West Virginia.
Like, but people, we should have done this nationally.
Most people don't know that our lunches for our schools are ordered by the DOD.
harrison smith
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
harrison smith
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
Because they're ordered by the people that handle the food for prisons.
harrison smith
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
That's why.
And it's coming from Cisco.
Well, there's been this huge trend online on TikTok, which is where I do a lot of my work, of people going and comparing food at very expensive restaurants and cheap restaurants and camping outside to see the same Cisco boxes loaded.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Cisco is like, it's like 90% of food served from restaurants or schools.
tiffany cianci
It's mass-produced, ultra-processed, highly addictive, like garbage.
harrison smith
Yeah, it's like Cisco, Tyson Foods.
There's like five companies that provide 99% of the food.
tiffany cianci
Well, that's where our lunches come from.
Right.
And they're all coming through DOD, the same thing that we're feeding prisoners, we're feeding to our children.
And then we have these states that are proving we can do it another way.
We can go back to what we were doing before.
My kids' school has a scratch kitchen, and it's my favorite thing.
And it's only $3 a day, $3 a day for their lunch, which is cheaper than most public schools.
And they won't, like I made, I used to make very elaborate lunches for them.
And I would leave them when I leave town.
I would leave stacks of lunches.
They don't want them anymore.
They're so happy eating healthy, good food.
And we have these states that have the capability to do it.
But our government, we don't have to rely on government for everything.
But if the government is ordering school lunches for our kids, then they should have to do it in a healthy way if they're going to claim the benefit of the Maha Coalition.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
tiffany cianci
They should have to do that.
And we can do that.
We can do that now.
Another thing we can be doing right now, there's been a lot of talk about SNAP.
I've taken a lot of heat online this week because I'm a fierce advocate for SNAP.
I grew up extremely, extremely poor.
I grew up very hungry for many years.
And then I got SNAP benefits and free lunch.
And I went from not being able to focus on my studies to graduating two years early and getting scholarships because I didn't have to worry about my dinner and my lunch anymore.
I had food.
Right.
Right now in Maryland and Virginia, you can use your SNAP benefits to go shop at farm stands and with farms.
And you can get food that is about the same price as the grocery store that is healthy and organic.
We could expand that everywhere.
Yeah.
We could be tying these programs together.
People are saying they don't want SNAP buying soda.
For the record, as a kid, the thing I wanted most with my SNAP was either a lunchable or a kid cuisine.
As an adult, I know those are very bad for me, but as a kid, it was the things that I couldn't have.
So I don't have a problem with a kid getting access to a soda.
But I do have a problem with the people who have SNAP not being able to afford any of the healthy food in the stores because it's more expensive than the ultra-processed food because we have made it so our farmers aren't making enough money and the intermediaries are making all the money when it comes to processing good American grown American butchered food.
unidentified
Right.
harrison smith
And well, and I think, you know, the problem with the SNAP program is not that, you know, it's there to just serve people like yourself who like are, you know, literally going hungry and are kids and you know, need help, like, but how do you make sure that's that's who it's going to?
And then you've got the idea that I think Walmart makes $25 billion a year.
That's basically just a transfer from taxpayers.
You know, it's worse than wallets to Walmart directly.
tiffany cianci
So Walmart is making $25 billion a year in SNAP that they collect.
They collect 26% of all SNAP that we put out into the marketplace goes back to Walmart.
But they're only able to capture it because they have more than a quarter of their workforce is on SNAP that is full-time employed.
harrison smith
Yes.
tiffany cianci
Because they're underpaying their employees.
We are subsidizing that.
And we're also giving them, you know, $2.8 billion a year in tax breaks.
And then they're getting $284 million a year in local subsidies.
But we're also seeing that at companies like Kroger.
And we're seeing it at Amazon.
And we're seeing it at McDonald's where we're subsidizing these companies to keep their employees underpaid.
Right now, last year, Walmart made $19.4 billion, I think, was their record profits last year.
And the year before was $15.
They went up $5 billion.
They went up one third in profits by hiking their prices, riding that greedflation wave.
Okay.
It's not like they had to raise it that much.
They didn't climb by 10%.
They climbed by 34%.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
While they didn't raise their staff wages at all.
Had they raised every single full-time employee they have to $25 an hour, they still would have made almost $11 billion in profits.
unidentified
Wow.
tiffany cianci
They would have made $11 billion.
harrison smith
And that's the thing.
And it's like, okay, so we're subsidizing.
It's like, is that what we want to subsidize?
Do we want to subsidize a giant big box store that's impersonal and abuses its employees?
We could take the same program and be funneling that same $25 billion towards small businesses, towards farmers' markets.
That is absolutely possible.
tiffany cianci
What if, here's a fun idea.
What if we just took all of those tax breaks and tied them and started reducing their tax break by how many of their employees were relying on government subsidies?
harrison smith
I think it's a great idea.
tiffany cianci
Why don't we start reducing tax breaks for companies that the government and taxpayers are subsidizing?
harrison smith
And it's funny because this was an argument that Bernie Sanders used to make that I completely agreed with.
It's like, yeah, Walmart is benefiting from the welfare programs, from SNAP and all these other things because they get to underpay their employees.
And they actually instruct their employees how to sign up for benefits, knowing that they're not paying them enough.
tiffany cianci
But, you know, a lot of people don't know this either.
Do you know that right now in America, there's 25,000 American military families on SNAP, active duty military families that we're not paying enough to eat?
unidentified
Right.
tiffany cianci
Our military.
And then we have 80,000 reservist families that are on SNAP.
Wow.
We have, and we could, I like to say, like, you don't understand who all is on SNAP.
We have 42, like you do, but like not everybody does.
We have 42 million Americans on SNAP.
Of them, 16.4 million are children.
Right.
We have, at any given moment, we have approximately 8 million senior citizens, 5 million of them permanently disabled.
Okay.
We want those people fed.
But also of them, 15.7 million of them are full-time workers.
15.7 million of the 42 million are full-time workers.
More than 4 million of them have two or more jobs.
harrison smith
And there still are not many.
tiffany cianci
And they are still not making enough to feed their families because we are giving subsidies to these corporations instead of the Americans.
And Americans, they deserve a chance to, you know, I can't say, nobody wants me to say raise the minimum wage.
But if we just took away the incentive to strip mine the middle class, to strip mine their opportunities, if we just took away the tax incentive and said, you only get your incentives if you are not being a burden on the taxpayers through the way that you are paying low wages, that would be enough.
harrison smith
Yeah.
Well, it's like all these things are deeply intertwined, right?
Because it's like the wages are being driven down by the immigration, which is driving up house prices, which is dry.
It's like, it's just a mess.
It's just all a giant mess.
And with Snap, it's like, it's another one of these programs where just like asylum or any of these other things, it's like ostensibly it's good, but you've got to stop the fraud.
You know, it's not that you just have to endure the fraud because the system is good.
It's like for the sake of the system, you can't allow these people who, and we saw videos, I mean, I didn't realize what a regular thing it was to sell your SNAP benefits, which apparently is just sort of an assumed thing.
I've seen a lot of videos where it's just people sort of casually referencing like, well, you're not going to be able to sell your SNAP benefits to get your nails done anymore.
It's like, is this just something people do?
So, you know, I understand why people are infuriated with the idea that on top of the people that actually do need it, that are disabled or children or whatever, which we've got to have a way of just going, all right, this is a child.
They can get SNAP.
This is an adult who's never worked a day in her life.
She's got to go get a child.
tiffany cianci
It's a duty military family.
harrison smith
That type of stuff.
Absolutely.
tiffany cianci
Most people don't know that.
So I was a military wife for years.
And up until E4, if you had a child, you were automatically sent down to register for WIC because the military is not paying their employees enough for children to be born into the military and not need SNAP and WIC.
Wow.
Right.
So it's easy to say there's so much fraud in SNAP.
I'm going to say it's $98 billion a year.
$98 billion a year.
Okay.
Do you know how much we send in foreign aid to feed people in other countries every year?
$98.8 billion.
unidentified
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
Okay.
So like if we have $98.8 billion to send overseas, I frankly, I'm trying to care about the fraud.
I really am.
But we have long held the belief in America that it is better for 10 guilty people to go free than one innocent man to sit on death row.
Why is it that people have been so gleeful over these last two weeks to deny 16 million children food so that one fraudulent person doesn't eat?
Well, those are synonymous.
And it's horrifying to me the way that I've seen celebrations about the cutoff of SNAP benefits because as a child, my kids and I, my kids are fine.
My husband's a federal attorney.
I have a good job.
We're fine.
Okay.
But my kids eat pizza every Christmas Eve.
For the record, I hate pizza.
Okay.
My kids, we eat pizza every Christmas Eve.
Do you want to know why?
Because every Christmas Eve, I used to go and steal two pizzas from Smith's, the Smith's grocery store.
I would steal the two for $3 pizza pack.
And that's what we would eat on Christmas Eve.
So my siblings had food.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
Okay.
Like people don't understand that you could have a million people that were using it incorrectly or wrongly.
And it wouldn't change that right now, every year in America, there's $284 billion in estimated fraud for overpayments to billionaires through our government, where they overbill us for parts or overbill us for service through Raytheon or through or through Northrop Grumman.
We're paying $284 billion a year in overpayments.
And we have $98 billion a year total to feed children in America.
And I don't care.
Until you tell me to care about the extra money we're giving billionaires, I don't care.
I'm trying to.
I just can't.
harrison smith
Yeah, I think I think people got pissed off at the videos of people going, you're responsible for my children.
I can't work to, and it's like, you know, why?
And, you know, it's not that like the $40 million, it's like it's a symptom.
It's a symptom of just our completely broken society where people that work aren't getting paid enough and people that don't work are being paid not to work.
And I mean, the whole, the whole thing is screwed up.
So, you know, it's not that people are like, oh, let's, you know, rob children of food.
It's like, let's stop being screwed over constantly.
And let's, and why do I have these TikTok videos, people with an iPhone 17 and their nails done, you know, talking about getting SNAP and I'm working my finger to the bone and I don't get any benefits.
tiffany cianci
And why are our military members in a place where they need SNAP benefits and risk benefits to feed their children?
harrison smith
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
They serve our country.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
You know, they, they, they are, they are the most honorable workers we have, the people that give and risk their lives and they qualify.
10,000, right now there's 185,000 teachers in America that qualify for SNAP.
harrison smith
Really?
tiffany cianci
There are more than 10,000 volunteer firefighters in America on SNAP benefits right now.
And when you look at those statistics, I realize there's a few bad apples and those stories get amplified, but there's a few bad apples everywhere.
You know what I mean?
Like when we're talking about teachers' kids and the military's kids and volunteer firefighters' kids, and we're talking about 1.2 million children in kinship care and their families, which works out to roughly 5 million people, are on SNAP because they have no parents.
harrison smith
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
You know?
harrison smith
Yeah, it's just it's hard because it's like, you know, it feels like putting a band-aid on a cancer diagnosis where it's like, okay, you have a sore, you should put a band-aid on it.
But in a way, it's it, it, it feels like, okay, by trying to solve these problems, really what you're doing is just perpetuating the sickness itself.
So it's, it's hard to know how to deal with because you don't want to cut those people off, but you also don't want to pay for them forever.
We'll be right back, folks.
Well, one more segment.
We'll be right back.
Don't go anywhere.
We can talk about home equity, private equity on the other side.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Tiffany Sianci is my guest at TheVino Mom on X, TiffanySiancy.com and Tiffany Cianci on TikTok, where she does a lot of her most powerful posting, I would say.
And I wanted to get you on originally, or one of the things we want to talk about was this 50-year mortgage suggestion.
Now, this has been so unpopular, they've decided to blame it on Bill Pulte and say this was, he tricked us.
He tricked us into saying this.
I think it's a joke.
I think Trump wanted this.
It's ridiculous.
I think when most people heard this, they immediately just went, no, absolutely not.
This is ridiculous.
This is slavery.
This is a debt you will never be able to pay off.
Even a 30-year mortgage is like daunting to me and too long.
Why would they suggest a 50-year mortgage?
tiffany cianci
Frankly, because I mean, it was haphazardly put out because of the election wipeout, right?
Because people said that the most pressing issue was affordability.
Trump promised we were going to have more affordable groceries and houses and cars and all of the things.
And while they keep saying in all of their press releases, and Caroline Lovitt has done a very good job of saying your groceries are more affordable and your gas prices are better, they're not.
They're not better.
They might not be accelerating at the same trajectory, but they are not better.
Anyone who has to buy, I paid for eggs two days ago or $7.99 for a dozen.
$7.99.
harrison smith
It's the same thing that Biden used to say is they'd go, immigrant, you know, inflation is decreasing.
And it's like, you mean the rate that it's growing is slowing down?
Yeah.
Same sort of manipulation of rhetoric.
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
You know, when you look at this idea of a 50-year mortgage, one, it would actually drive housing prices up.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
Because you would get a few more people into the marketplace.
I don't even know why banks would approve it.
Like the average age of a first-time homebuyer is now 41.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
So what?
You're going to pay till you're 91?
harrison smith
Doesn't mortgage mean like death agreement?
tiffany cianci
So yeah, what it would literally mean is that your children never inherit your home.
Because if you actually look at a mortgage at like 6% on 30-year versus, let's take a like a $500,000 mortgage at 30 years versus 50.
The principal and interest decrease between the two is only like $260 a month.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
And you're paying for 20 more years.
So instead of paying $600,000, $650,000, you're now paying $1.2 million for that house.
And that means the banks have a lot more that they can borrow against in their portfolio of debt.
So they're going to get richer and richer.
The people that are processing the mortgages will make a little bit more money.
More people entering without building more supply is not going to do anything beneficial.
Here's a crazy idea that is very popular among 98% of the working class of America.
Why don't we just get investors that are large corporations out of the housing market?
harrison smith
What?
What a crazy idea.
tiffany cianci
Hear me out.
We could also make it so more housing can be built by freeing up some of the zoning problems we have.
And then we could fix housing.
harrison smith
But I mean, I even want to build more.
I hate building more houses.
I think we have enough houses.
I mean, it's just, it's so crazy to me that like our birth rate is negative.
Our population is shrinking.
And yet, if you go around Austin, I could point you to two dozen neighborhoods that didn't exist five years ago to the extent that like some of the some of the wells are running dry.
Some of the springs are running dry.
We're building so much housing so fast.
tiffany cianci
Definitely going to put a data center there.
harrison smith
Well, right.
The data centers.
I mean, we are like consuming natural resources at this massive rate.
And yet our population is shrinking.
Like that, that to me is so radicalizing that it's like, what are we doing?
We're just strip mining the natural beauty to build these horrible houses that don't even last 10 years to fill up with Indian people.
And it's like, what are we doing?
What are we doing here?
This is not for Americans.
It's not helping us afford houses.
It's ridiculous.
So I get that we need to build houses, but like, I'm like, do we really?
Do we really need to build this many houses?
tiffany cianci
A study just came out that showed that for the first time in American history, investor purchases of houses outpaced first-time and second-time homebuyers.
harrison smith
Really?
Say that again.
tiffany cianci
So for the first time in American history, investor purchases of houses are now outpacing first-time buyers of homes.
harrison smith
Wow.
tiffany cianci
So it's not just like they were buying 20% or 40% in some major market areas.
It's that they're buying more houses, period.
Now, the other thing that's really disconcerting is if you look at the average age of a buyer of a home and you go back 20 years and it was like 28.
And then you go 10 years forward and it was like 38.
And now you look and it's like 60.
The same people that got homes when you could get a home are the only ones still buying in the market.
unidentified
Right.
tiffany cianci
Young people can't.
And here's the real problem, because people are upset that Mamdani was elected.
People are upset about what's going on in Seattle where we have a socialist candidate running, right?
harrison smith
Oh my God.
unidentified
Right.
tiffany cianci
You have this, but Charlie Kirk said to Trump that the young people voting for you is not a sign that they support you.
It's a warning bell.
And them going all in for Mamdani is a warning response.
They gave you a shot because they believed the left could no longer serve them.
You are no longer serving them and they now believe that no one can serve them.
So they've decided capitalism can no longer serve them.
These are warning bells.
These are not endorsements.
This is them reaching a point where they say, well, now you're telling us AI is going to take all our jobs.
We have lived through crisis after crisis and every single crisis has made our outlook worse.
We can't afford food.
We're 35 with six roommates or we're still living with our parents.
We're never going to get married.
We're never going to have kids.
We're never going to own a home.
So at this point, we'd rather just have a break.
harrison smith
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
Just a break.
Yes, get me an affordable grocery store run by the government.
Why not?
The VA runs grocery stores.
They do okay.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
Like, it's not like nobody's ever done it.
harrison smith
Yeah, here's the, here's what you were just talking about.
Same house, $500,000.
If you're a 30-year mortgage at 3% interest, you're paying total interest payments of just over a quarter million dollars.
If, however, it's the same house with a 7% interest rate on a 50-year mortgage, you're paying over a million dollars.
So you're paying over four times, well, about four times as much over time.
tiffany cianci
But if you look at the 2021 left side and you just raised that to 6%, you're still only paying less than $600,000.
Like you're paying that one.
You're paying at like $550,000.
So even at 6%, a 30-year mortgage is so much better for your family financially.
harrison smith
It's such a scam.
tiffany cianci
It's such a scam.
harrison smith
And, you know, what you're talking about is I've gone off on, seems like I say do the same rent every single day, but it's so obvious.
If you don't make the argument, they're going to go to the socialists who are making the argument.
It's so simple.
And the argument is not hard to make.
The argument is they are systematically buying up houses to deprive you of the ability to own homes, BlackRock, Blackstone.
They're doing it on purpose.
They want you to rent forever.
They want you to own nothing.
It's a deliberate scam that has destroyed our economy.
You have to confront it and use the government to fight back against private equity, fight back against the corporations and serve the people and they'll vote for you.
But if you just tell them, shut up, pull your bootstraps up and buy a starter car for $3,000, then they're going to go to the socialist who's going, hey, that billionaire that just told you to get stuffed, I'll take his money and give it to you.
It's like, it's so obvious.
Same thing with Israel.
It's like, just stop serving them relentlessly and people won't vote for the anti-Israel guy.
It's not that complicated.
tiffany cianci
I saw an amazing tweet the other day.
I don't remember who posted it.
And they said, you know, everybody's saying free market capitalism, that we're under free market capitalism.
Well, if free market capitalism means that we're borrowing $8,000 cars that China could sell us right now, are we really having free market capitalism?
Are we just stifling innovation that could have actually given us affordability?
harrison smith
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
And that's real.
Okay.
Right now, I just was in South Africa last week and I went to a cell phone store.
unidentified
Okay.
tiffany cianci
I was radicalized.
harrison smith
Really?
tiffany cianci
The cell phone stores there are so innovative.
The cell phones are so innovative.
It's nothing like like we like an iPhone.
harrison smith
I don't even understand.
What do you mean?
How are they?
tiffany cianci
So an iPhone hasn't changed in 20 years, essentially, right?
They've forced us into planned obsolescence so that it constantly has to be replaced because they make the updates so big that the processor can no longer handle it.
You have to get another one.
Right now they just got rid of the 15 and 16, so you have to buy the 17.
I know, because I just had to buy one.
harrison smith
That's because Apple loves the earth so much.
tiffany cianci
They love the earth so much.
But I went to South Africa where they have all of these different cell phone producers from all over the world, including China.
And they had a cell phone, for instance, that is the exact same size as my iPhone 17, exactly the same size, except it pops out threefold and turns into a tablet.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
And you can slide it back in.
They have cameras on the back and cameras on the front.
They have 200 times Zoom that is perfect clarity on the back and the back and the front-facing cameras.
And the price is less.
And when I tell you, I went into this store and I was absolutely shaken when I left there.
I was so upset that we are kept with this non-innovative.
This was innovative 20 years ago.
And this walled garden has made it so they don't have to innovate anymore.
They just filed a patent this week.
Apple just filed a, or last week they filed a patent for their iPod case to have an or for their AirPod case to have an iPod shuffle on it.
Well, guess what?
When we bought iPod shuffles and they were $100, they came with the pods.
unidentified
Okay.
harrison smith
That's true.
tiffany cianci
And now it's going to be $1,000 and it's what they invented 18 years ago.
harrison smith
It's true.
tiffany cianci
I just want some innovation.
I just want some competition.
And instead, we're facilitating all of these monopolists.
And I'm tired of the monopolies.
I'm tired of a lack of innovation.
I'm tired of the lack of competition because that is why they can charge whatever they want.
That is why the American people cannot afford anything.
That is why we have a bunch of bureaucratic middlemen in every industry gobbling up all of the profitability that could be redirected towards small businesses and innovation.
harrison smith
It's exhausting.
And that's the thing is that the Republicans, it seems, are so like hyper-paranoid of socialism or the idea that the government should come in.
But the government is the reason these monopolies can exist.
The government provides for them to exist.
The deal, you know, makes trade deals that allows them to exist and stifles competition completely.
Yeah.
If you want to protect capitalism, you need to intervene.
unidentified
Correct.
harrison smith
This is not, it's not actually as like cognitively dissonant as you think.
It makes perfect sense.
If you want to, you know, have the competition that makes capitalism good, that makes it thrive, that makes it actually a positive, then the government needs to come in, break up some of the trusts, break up some of the monopolies, allow for the bubbling up of smaller businesses to get a foot in the ground, ending the regulations that make starting a new business prohibitively expensive.
Like there are things that you can do.
Don't be scared of it.
It's what Teddy Roosevelt did.
It's as American as you can get because you're protecting capitalism by intervening to stop the greatest excesses that happen under capitalism.
tiffany cianci
And the problem is that we are intervening in all of the wrong ways.
If we're barring China from entering our economy, which they're saying is just trade savvy, right?
If that $8,000 car were coming into our economy, all of the cars' prices would drop.
True.
Period.
And they would innovate and we would get more affordable cars.
That would happen, right?
And when you look right now, those phones that I was looking at over in South Africa all come with a three-year warranty and they all come with a right to repair.
You can repair them yourselves.
They all come with a three-year warranty and they come with a screen protection warranty too.
harrison smith
Wow.
tiffany cianci
No questions asked, right?
Well, here, that's Apple Pay and you're paying $99 for each phone plus your insurance plans every month, right?
And then they're going to plan to obsolescence it out of existence.
If we had competition, we would see when cell phones first came out, every company was trying to get us to come to theirs.
Nokia was trying to get our purchases, and Samsung was trying to get our purchases, and Apple was trying to get our purchases, and they were competing with one another, and it was driving prices down down.
harrison smith
They used to just like send you phones.
They used to just be like free phone.
Every year, you got a new free phone.
tiffany cianci
And right now, I just went to go get a phone, and they're like, that's going to be $1,800.
$1,800 for something that has not changed in 20 years.
And they're like, but it's got two terabytes of storage.
And I'm like, you know why?
Because they keep making it so that the operating system is so big, you have to have it.
Why am I paying more when the chip is just the same price it was when it was 256 megabytes?
We're paying less for the chips now and I'm paying more for the phone.
Why?
Because there is no competition in our marketplace and we are protecting monopolists.
That's why we're seeing in healthcare, that's why we're seeing all of these middlemen gobbling up all of the money that could be passed along as savings to people that are sick.
There's another trend going on on TikTok right now where there is a doctor who is calling and she gets the price for an insurance payment for her or for a cash pay.
And if you're paying a cash pay payment for a full body CT scan is $700, but with insurance it's $6,000, we have a problem.
We have a problem.
harrison smith
This is a scam.
tiffany cianci
And when we see cash plus pharmacies where they can pay, where the government is paying $10,000 for a regimen of medication through Medicaid, but when you go and do cash plus, it's $240, we have a problem.
And our government is subsidizing all the wrong things.
harrison smith
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
All the wrong things.
harrison smith
Yeah, it's so unbelievably infuriating.
And I'm glad I just remembered this because you brought it up during the break and it's like, I had not heard of this.
What is going on with THC?
tiffany cianci
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
So at the Maha Summit today, they were talking about the importance of psychedelics as medicine, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
Except that last week during our shutdown, where the Republicans were saying they were not going to move an inch because they were passing a clean continuing resolution, clean funding bill that was not going to do anything and that we would negotiate on things later.
We're just trying to keep this government open.
And when they got those Democrats across and we got our eight signatures, they snuck in a ban on THC products nationwide.
This is a $29 billion industry that has reduced alcoholism, has reduced anxiety, has reduced depression, and has reduced suicidality without the horrifying effects of being chronically addicted to substances.
And what happened was the alcohol industry advocated for removing it so that people could be alcoholics again.
harrison smith
So they just banned a $29 billion industry.
tiffany cianci
Well, if it passes in the House, yeah, the Senate passed it in their version.
I haven't gotten to see if the bill has passed in the House yet.
$29 billion and it's supposed to be gone.
And this is hundreds of thousands of jobs.
This is hundreds of thousands of patients that are buying products for their glaucoma.
We haven't seen this huge rush of people having substance problems because of it.
What we've seen is a huge reduction in alcoholism, huge reductions in all kinds of addictions.
Right.
And we've seen huge advances in people that are able to self-treat for things they used to have to pay tens of thousands of dollars in medicine for.
So why would we want to do this?
harrison smith
Right.
And it was always, you know, the classic meme was always, you know, here's why they want you to think weed is illegal and it's, you know, because it intoxicates you.
And then it's like, here's the real reasons and because it competes with the pharmaceutical industries.
It competes with the manufacturing industries with hemp and that sort of stuff.
I mean, there's a lot of reasons why they don't want THC on the market.
Not a lot of them have anything to do with what's good for you or your health.
I'm in favor of exploring the possibilities of medical marijuana.
I also understand that marijuana is not for everybody.
And I think it's irresponsible the way people like Joe Rogan talk about it, where there's like, it cures everything and it does nothing bad.
It's like, no, you should be careful with it.
It's not something that everybody can enjoy responsibly, but it clearly has very powerful medicinal qualities and they just snuck it.
What else did they sneak in?
What else did I miss?
Because I know Texas is trying to get rid of THC and I'm against that.
It's a billion dollar industry for our state and there's absolutely no reason why it should go away.
So how did they do this?
What?
It's just, this is crazy.
I haven't even heard of this.
tiffany cianci
They quite literally did it in the last minute draft the Democrats agreed to.
And Schumer orchestrated that whole side.
So he made sure that it was all Democrats.
Like Schumer didn't vote yes, right?
He didn't vote yes because he's up for reelection.
He made sure that every single Democrat that crossed was not up for reelection or they were retiring so that nobody would really like have any pushback from their side.
When you look at how this whole thing was orchestrated, I actually think the reason it reopened was because the airline lobby came in and was like, you're going to reopen right now.
Right.
But as soon as the election was over, everybody was fine with it.
There was no real reason to fight.
And I don't, I don't disagree with the reason that the Democrats gave for why they shut us down.
If you look at what has just happened to health insurance premiums because of the way the Affordable Care Act was set up from the beginning, many, many millions of people are about to lose health insurance.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
And that will ultimately fault the American taxpayers to clean up the mess of.
Millions of people just saw my friend's a teacher and her, she, she sent me over a copy of her increase.
And she's going from roughly $350 per pay period to $1,100 per pay period.
She says, I'm thinking about quitting.
harrison smith
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
If we go down, we will qualify for better subsidies.
She's going from literally like $365, I think it was, to almost $1,100 per pay period for her insurance.
And so that's because when the Affordable Care Act was passed, it was never about making it affordable.
The only way it was affordable was if our government subsidized these billion-dollar companies.
And so what's happened is we've allowed these costs to spiral and all of these costs have gone again to these middleman bureaucracies, these insurance benefit managers, right?
Because right now there are laws that say how much money an insurance company can make by percentage.
You know, I don't remember the exact percentage.
It's like, I think it was 3%.
harrison smith
And that's one of those unintended consequences thing, where ostensibly it was to cap the ability of insurance companies to make more money as the middleman.
But instead, it incentivized them to jack up prices as high as humanly possible.
tiffany cianci
Well, it didn't incentivize them to do it on that side.
What it did was incentivize them to make a bunch of bureaucracies that led to that, right?
Because it said the insurance company couldn't.
But when you add on things like Optum, right?
Which is what crashed the entire payment system for like three months last year, Optum by United Healthcare.
Nobody said they couldn't make whatever they want.
Nobody said that the pharmacy benefit managers couldn't make whatever they want, just the health insurers.
So they opened all these other companies.
They got together with a bunch of private equity firms.
They did a whole bunch of really messy like math.
And they've created these bureaucracies in the middle that have just been very exploitative.
And as a result, we're seeing huge costs.
But if you're paying cash, it's going to start to look real good to pay for cash for a lot of Americans very, very quickly.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
Because there's just no way to keep paying for the prices that are about to take place.
And so now we saw the Democrats cross because they didn't really care about it.
They cared about it for those elections and it worked real well.
This was a test for them.
If they shut it down again next time with the midterm election, will it work the same way?
They got a, that was a wipeout.
unidentified
Yeah.
tiffany cianci
You know, it was very effective.
And as soon as it was over, they were coming back.
Was it Scott Jennings the other night that said that was going to happen?
Like the night of the election.
He's like, don't worry.
They're going to reopen it now.
They just need it tonight.
But when we're looking at what they were actually talking about, it's not without merit.
And the Republicans have been saying we were going to overturn the Affordable Care Act forever, but they didn't do anything.
So now we're in a place where, again, the American working class people are the ones that are about to suffer because of a bunch of billionaires that control our government.
And it's a huge problem.
Trump now says, well, let's give it to the family so they can buy it.
That's just going to hike up prices more.
It's going to create more inflation.
unidentified
Right.
harrison smith
And it seems like private equity is the bug in the ointment in all of these.
I mean, it seems like everything that you talk about always goes back to private equity, not because it's an obsession of yours, but because that's the method by which they're extracting resources.
tiffany cianci
Well, when you look at the S ⁇ P 500, when you look at our stock market, it's been shrinking for the last 60 years.
And every time a company leaves the stock market, it's going to private equity.
We haven't seen growth in our stock market aside from NVIDIA really at all in decades.
harrison smith
What was the stat you just gave me about bankruptcies?
tiffany cianci
Okay, so this is really important because private equity is not all private equity is bad.
My company engages in super ethical private equity.
If your mom gives you money to start a business, that is private equity.
Pirate-like private equity is a cancer on this nation and the world.
Okay.
It is a cancer.
And when you look at private equity right now, last year, 2024, they were responsible for 65%, I think it was, of all billion-dollar bankruptcies in the United States and 53% of all major bankruptcies, even though they only represent like 5% to 8% of our industry.
harrison smith
5 to 8% of the industry, but over more than half of the bankruptcies.
tiffany cianci
And that is because they don't create anything.
They extract.
They strip mine.
They tear down the American corporations, companies, ingenuity, our systems.
You know, it's easy to look at craft stores because it's been so consolidated, right?
Joann's, Michaels, they've both been taken private and brought back to IPO.
But in the game of capitalism, if capitalism is allowed to work the way it will, Michaels will be the next one to go under and Hobby Lobby will win.
A lot of people on the left don't like it when I say that.
Okay.
And I have an audience that's very evenly split.
But Hobby Lobby is a privately owned company that has a very biblical premise for everything to be.
harrison smith
It's a God-fearing company.
tiffany cianci
That is absolutely what they hold themselves out at.
They choose not to be open on Sundays.
They choose to, they also don't take on debt.
So any debt they take on to open something, they pay back within two quarters.
They have never overextended or overexpanded.
harrison smith
They're awesome.
Let's subsidize them.
tiffany cianci
They have been just plugging along and plugging along.
harrison smith
They don't even have barcodes because it's the market of the beast.
tiffany cianci
And they've never chased quick money.
They've never chased more shareholder value.
They've chased.
And so if the game of monopoly works, they will be the monopoly at the end, but they never wanted to be.
What we've seen is monopolism destroy a massive industry.
Massive.
Okay.
Crafting supports more small businesses than almost anything else in America.
Women who can't go to work but can sell stuff on Etsy at night, that's what they do.
People that are at home with disabled kids, they do that.
And now they have nowhere to get supplies.
Right.
Now they're buying them from China.
Great.
harrison smith
Yeah, you buy them online.
And that in and of itself sort of destroys one of the draws of crafting, that you go somewhere and you meet other people and you get advice and you exchange strategies and all that sort of stuff.
And Joann's, I think the first time you came on, it was right after Joann's went into bankruptcy.
And every store was profitable and yet it was in bankruptcy because of private equity.
tiffany cianci
97% of their stores are profitable.
97%.
They had seen a growth of over, they had doubled their customer base in the previous five years.
And they were bankrupt because how much debt the private equity companies had stacked on top of them to strip mine out through dividends.
It's horrifying.
harrison smith
It's sick.
It really is.
It really is sick.
tiffany cianci
And we're seeing that right now.
We're seeing that at Southwest.
I was the highest tier of Southwest flyer.
I love Southwest because when I fly for work, I took the inconveniences of their different style of things so that I could take my family on vacations every year with my points.
And I got companion status.
So one of my kids or my husband could fly with me when I wanted to go on a trip.
And then they got invaded by Elliott Management, which is an activist investment firm that is also an activist private equity firm.
And they are destroying that company, right?
That is happening in real time right now.
We're seeing that play out for the world.
We're seeing it in housing.
We're seeing it in healthcare.
We're watching more senior citizens' homes and more hospitals get bankrupted by private equity than any other mechanism by almost quadruple.
harrison smith
Wow.
tiffany cianci
Right.
We're seeing senior citizens get left homeless when they bankrupt communities that they bought lifetime rentals in.
harrison smith
Right.
tiffany cianci
Right.
We're seeing people that did everything right by every American account.
We are seeing, let's just take a senior citizen, a senior citizen that did everything right in their life.
Okay.
They paid their taxes.
They put into their pensions.
They got their retirement.
They worked for 50 years.
They finally got to retire.
They bought into a senior citizens community.
They paid $300,000 to get a house they got to live in forever with support.
And then a private equity firm comes in.
harrison smith
Oh, my God.
We can go on and on.
We're at the end here.
Tiffany Sianzi at Tiffany Sianci on X. Or no, at theVino Mom on X, TiffanySiani.com.
Thank you so much for being here with us.
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