Owen Shroyer dissects Ghislaine Maxwell’s potential deal with the Trump administration amid Epstein-related headlines, questioning her credibility while linking Epstein’s estate—including a book with alleged Trump notes—to broader conspiracy theories. He critiques media focus on Epstein over existential threats like AI bias and housing market risks, where BlackRock could exploit debt crashes. Trump’s $200M Columbia settlement, ending DEI policies, contrasts with past "victim lottery" claims, while calls expose skepticism about Epstein files, intelligence ties, and right-wing fragmentation. Shroyer’s analysis suggests the Epstein narrative is a political distraction, overshadowing deeper systemic issues. [Automatically generated summary]
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You know, it's getting a little frustrating.
The Groundhog Day phenomenon.
Go to all the news sites and what's the top story?
The same thing for what?
Three weeks, guys?
Are we going on three weeks?
When did Trump make that comment at the cabinet meeting to stop talking about Epstein?
Feels like it's been three straight weeks and it's nothing but Epstein headlines.
I'm getting sick of it, but there continues to be these new ripples and developments.
And if I'm Trump at this point, obviously he's sick of it.
He's got to just put the pedal to the metal and just say, just let it all out.
Just let it all out.
And who's ever stopping it, go on the offense against them.
And whatever involvement he has in the list or the files, people will forgive it.
Now it's going to be worse trying to cover it up than to say that he was friends with Epstein.
So, yeah, okay, we've got the stack on the latest Epstein stuff, but I guess the significant development is the Trump administration sends a lawyer to now talk to Maxwell in the Florida prison.
Epstein's former lawyer is saying she's going to cut a deal.
So what does that mean?
Maybe we'll have an idea.
Maybe we'll have an idea this week as to what that could mean.
But is she really going to sing?
Can you even trust her?
Is she going to cut a deal to get cut loose and then say what she's told to say?
Seems like that's where this is going.
Now, aside from that, what I really wanted to find information on today, which is just totally lost in translation, Trump signed some pretty important and big executive orders dealing with AI.
And, you know, maybe, because I've been wanting to do this for a while, and I already intended on taking a bunch of calls, but it's like, when do we have the conversation about what type of resistance we need to start building towards this AI development and introduction into our daily lives?
What type of conversations do we need to be having about the future and saying, okay, are we going to have limitations?
Do we want to go into a world where there's a robot in every room?
Do we want to go into the world of an AI grid that basically runs everything autonomously?
Because this is where it's all going.
This is what they're trying to build.
And you can say you make America the center of it.
It'll be great for the economy.
It'll be maybe good for jobs.
I don't know.
If robots are doing it, then can you even say that?
Preventing woke AI in the federal government.
So we'll read some of that.
But Trump is now signing these executive orders and really getting the AI push going.
And so people have concerns about Palantir and its involvement.
You know, I think it's more of a general issue than to say it's this company or it's that company or it's this individual or it's that individual.
I think everybody's in the AI race right now to get the biggest one.
You've kind of got a side race going of who's going to get the first quantum computing chip to just make it all happen at light speed.
And then when you combine those two, it's like, okay, now you're into the world of you start putting everything on the AI grid and it just runs everything, which you could already argue that it's kind of there with street lights and all the other surveillance systems that they have.
But this is something that the Trump administration is really doing right now, and it's getting no coverage.
And I'm not really seeing the big names in tech stand up and say, hey, maybe it's time to have a conversation about this.
Well, Donald Trump is about to go live from the Federal Reserve.
We're going to be monitoring that.
We'll be bringing that live for you.
We'll see what President Trump has to say.
Boy, oh boy, though.
The other day, and I've had this sitting on my desk, just hadn't gotten to it.
The other day, the creators of South Park, one of the most popular TV shows of all time, you could argue it's the most popular TV show, the most profitable TV show of all time.
Certainly one of my favorite shows.
They were in, they've kind of had some standoffs in negotiations with who's going to get their TV series and who's going to get their special shows.
They do like hour-long shows and trilogies, and then they have their normal TV show on the 30-minute block on television.
So they've always had interesting negotiations to get these deals done.
And so one of them that's been going on was a deal with Paramount that had been in the works for a long time, and they finally got it done.
I believe that was two days ago.
It was definitely this week for $1.5 billion.
$1.5 billion with Paramount.
Now, this is the same Paramount, I believe, that just paid out Trump in a settlement case.
And they've got some other legal stuff going on, too.
So they get the deal done, and South Park airs their first episode last night.
And Trump, you could say, I guess, is the villain in it, but it's a Trump spoof.
South Park season premiere rips Paramount's Trump settlement with fake PSA.
His penis is teeny tiny.
Trump White House rages over South Park episode calls show fourth rate.
You know, they're doing a new American Eagle ad campaign with putting, you know, Sidney Sweeney's Jugs.
It's a Sidney Sweeney's Jugs, American Eagle campaign.
And you're like, wow.
South Park is ticking off our politicians again.
Are we back?
We might be back.
Sidney Sweeney's Jugs on American Eagle.
South Park pissing off the people in power?
Starting to feel like we might be back.
I'm even hearing rumors of a Hunter Biden presidential run.
Wow.
That should be fun.
Now, South Park made fun of President Trump in, I don't know if it was their last season or two seasons ago.
I don't keep up with it like I used to.
But they've already made fun of Trump and spoofed Trump before.
So I don't know why they're making a big deal of it now.
I guess because he's running around naked.
And then apparently they had some AI scene.
It's like a big fat Trump running around naked in a field.
I'm guessing it's funny.
I haven't seen it.
But it was crazy to see that dominate.
Whenever it aired last night, it was just all over social media, all over the news.
And it was like, wow, they signed the $1.5 billion deal, and then they release their most controversial, their most controversial episode in a long, long time.
In a long, long time.
So, do we anticipate another lawsuit, guys?
No?
Crew says no.
I wouldn't be shocked, which would be ironic because I did see a clip where they say Trump is suing them.
So that would be kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy should that happen.
I don't know.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lawsuit, but we'll see.
So you got that going on.
That was the stuff that kind of felt a little nostalgic.
South Park pissing people off.
American Eagle putting hot chicks in campaign ads.
I'm sure you heard about Hulk Hogan, but we'll talk about that later.
Now, here's the headlines with the Epstein stuff.
And I've now done four different interviews, I think, this week, and it's the top story.
It's what everybody wants to talk about.
But here are the headlines today.
Trump administration and Justice Department to interview Epstein associate Ghylaine Maxwell in jail.
So that's Epstein's girlfriend or pimpette.
Trafficker serving her 20-year sentence for sex trafficking.
Part of the administration's efforts to quell criticism that it is concealing details of Mr. Epstein's crimes and interactions with high-profile figures, including President Trump.
So I don't know when this goes away.
But now you've got this new angle, and the White House and the administration and the DOJ is at least trying to put forth the optics of an effort to deliver on files.
And then, of course, the judge blocks it, and, you know, there'll be other battles along the way.
One of Epstein's lawyers, Alan Dershowitz, says that Maxwell will make a deal.
That's the way things are done.
They make deals with the mafia, so I'm certain they are going to try to make a deal with her.
So what does a deal like that look like?
And how can you trust her?
But this will be, no doubt, their attempt to get control of this story, get control of this narrative, and maybe try to put it to bed, but I don't think that'll happen.
So what?
They're going to say, hey, say what we want.
Say Donald was not involved in anything illegal or any of the sordid activities with the sex trafficking and Epstein's pedophilia.
And then it just continues now.
New York Times, it's the drip, drip, drip.
It's more Trump-Epstein stuff.
Epstein's estate includes book said to have note from Trump, according to a lawyer, who says he's seen the book and that the executors are in possession of it because that's the Epstein estate, which just got paid out by the IRS, which is continuing to pay out other people.
And then you have the House Republicans efforts.
House Republicans back an Epstein subpoena.
By the way, the House panel voted to subpoena Bill and Hillary Clinton regarding their links to Maxwell.
Jeffrey Epstein said he stopped hanging out with Trump when he realized he was a crook, according to his brother.
So now his brother's making a bunch of headlines, making a bunch of claims.
Oh, yeah.
I'm sure that'll sell.
Jeffrey Epstein was such a good judge of character.
Jeffrey Epstein had such a moral conscience.
He had such a moral compass that he didn't want to hang out with Trump because Trump was a crook.
Oh, yeah, the pedophile sex trafficker.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
I'm sure that's where he drew the line.
Oh, I can't hang out with Trump.
What a bunch of bull.
So now you start to see where it's like chum in the water.
So yeah, the left is going to use this to attack Trump.
And then anybody who can get their name into these stories, into the headlines, whatever, write a book.
They're going to try to tie it to Trump.
So now it's just this thing has just snowballed, and the PR has been such a disaster.
So, yeah, you got to protect the victims.
But see, you never really got, it kind of all goes back to the Epstein-sweetheart deal and how he thought he was going to get out of prison.
Because when they cut that deal in Florida, that also exonerated the co-conspirators.
So we don't know who the co-conspirators are.
So that's where this is probably going to go if they do try to do full declassification or they can even have anything to disclose.
If there's anything left, I think whatever is relevant, whatever the blackmail pile is or whatever this trickle of attacks on Trump, wherever that's coming from, I don't think it's here.
Now, it could be our intelligence agencies.
It could be foreign intelligence agencies, but I don't think it's being run from the United States.
I don't think it's anything that the administration could get their hands on anyway.
But so now what is a legitimate concern for the American people, the Epstein files, the Epstein case, however you want to phrase it, now it will be turned into another anti-Trump situation.
And people will say, well, you made it anti-Trump.
No, we had a problem with the way Trump handled it.
And then we had a problem because it looked like there was a cover-up going on.
But now it will turn into some leftist attack.
And just like we've already seen the Trump administration do and Trump himself do, then they're just going to say, oh, it's a hoax.
I'm sure this would be handled just like any other thing that they've tried to go after, like the baseless impeachments or the baseless special counsels or the unbelievable amount of charges they've tried to file against the president.
I'm sure this would be handled the exact same way.
What we're simply wanting to do here is give them cover.
So if my colleague from Arizona actually wants transparency, then he would drop his objection to my resolution.
But so this has just been a total distraction now.
And that, again, I'm not saying it's not relevant.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be talking about it, but it's like nobody's talking about the AI bills today.
Nobody.
You can barely even find a news story on it.
And there's some coverage of the economy, but it's like that's not even really getting addressed.
We've forgotten some of these other very important issues that we shouldn't have given up on, like Doge, the Doge cuts.
I guess they just expect us to forget about that.
What about auditing Fort Knox, going to do a live stream at Fort Knox?
I guess we're just not going to do that.
But, you know, this AI situation, and who knows what Trump is about to say at the Federal Reserve, he'll probably address Powell.
He'll probably address interest rates, talk about the economy.
But Mark Wayne Mullen is all over the Epstein stuff today.
He says, I just asked for unanimous consent to pass an Epstein resolution calling for full transparency and all available files to be released.
Senate Democrats objected on the floor.
Liberal political theater.
So yes, it has definitely become political theater now, and it's become such a phenomenon that now it's all about Trump.
And so we forget what the real story is.
How did Jeffrey Epstein get into a position to manage money for the richest, most powerful people in the world?
How did Jeffrey Epstein get such a sweetheart deal in the Florida case where his co-conspirators were exonerated?
Oh, and of course, who killed Jeffrey Epstein?
And when did people know he was a pedophile?
Were they all in on that game as well?
So that's the real story here because it opens up the world Of intelligence assets or agents and how they run these games and how they bring people in and influence them or get them to commit crimes and blackmail them.
That's the story.
That's what the American people want to get to the bottom of.
And the intelligence agencies have an interest into making sure that you never know how that world operates.
That you never know how these intelligence agencies launder money, traffic, sex traffic, drug traffic, gun traffic, use dark money to do it.
And how many different operations like this are going on?
Was Epstein the most prolific or was he just one of many?
You know, you look at a situation like what happened to Matt Gates?
Like, was that an intelligence operation to compromise an individual?
So that's what the people want to know.
It's not even about Trump.
He made it about Trump when he said stop talking about it.
And then, of course, because of that bad PR, then the media made it about Trump.
And now it's the drip, drip, drip with Trump and Epstein, which is undeniable.
And you could have handled it a lot better.
But you look back on it and you think, because you just wonder, why did Trump kick this whole thing off when he said to stop talking about it?
Why did he do that?
Is it because he was told it was going to start hitting the press and make it about him?
Did somebody tell him that?
Did he anticipate that was coming?
Was he intentionally trying to do a Streisand effect?
I don't believe that, but you just have to wonder why.
Because now this thing has just snowballed completely out of control.
Just completely out of control.
But who's talking about preventing woke AI in the federal government?
This was an executive order today preventing woke AI in the federal government.
Now, this thing is long.
I don't want to read the whole thing, but you can get an idea here.
Artificial intelligence will play a critical role in how Americans of all ages learn new skills, consume information, and navigate their daily lives.
Americans will require reliable outputs from AI, but when ideological biases or social agendas are built into AI models, they can distort the quality and accuracy of the output.
One of the most pervasive and destructive of these ideologies is so-called diversity, equity, and inclusion.
DEI includes the suppression or distortion of factual information about race or sex, manipulation of racial or sexual representation in model outputs, incorporation of concepts like critical race theory, transgenderism, unconscious bias, intersectionality, and systemic racism, and discrimination on the basis of race or sex.
DEI displaces the commitment to the truth in favor of preferred outcomes and, as recent history illustrates, poses an existential threat to reliable AI.
One example, an AI model changed the race or sex of historical figures, including the Pope, the Founding Fathers, and Vikings, when prompted for images because it was trained to prioritize DEI requirements at the cost of accuracy.
Another AI model refused to produce images celebrating the achievements of white people, even while complying with the same request for people of other races.
In yet another case, an AI model asserted that a user should not misgender another person, even if necessary, to stop a nuclear apocalypse.
Well, there were other tests that they ran on AI to stop a nuclear apocalypse.
While the federal government should be hesitant to regulate the functionality of AI models in the private marketplace, in the context of federal procurement, it has the obligation not to procure models that sacrifice truthfulness and accuracy to ideological agendas, building on Executive Order 1396-0 of December 3rd, 2020, promoting the use of trustworthy artificial intelligence in the federal government.
This order helps fulfill that obligation in the context of large language models.
And then it goes on with the subsections here.
So, okay, we're starting to build certain guardrails with AI, but this isn't really addressing the existential threat that it could pose to humanity.
And I'm not a big user of AI.
I'll use Grok every once in a while on X. I'd like to maybe learn some skills with AI and video producing skills and stuff, but it's just not something I'm doing or interested in per se.
But I think about if AI really can, let's say, think like you or I can, meaning it can form its own ideas, it can reach its own conclusions.
We're not just talking about input-output here.
We're talking about can it have its own ideas?
So you look at something like Grok and you say, okay, well, this is a useful tool.
I've used it and found it useful for multiple things.
But then there's times where you can try to use it and you'll get something that is inaccurate.
For example, people will ask Grok about me and it'll put inaccuracies out there, which I'm guessing is mostly based off of fake news stories.
So you see, now you've entered this realm and we've been successful, my lawyer and I, we've had to sue a couple times and we've got some lawsuits going right now For people that print fake news about me.
But now it becomes an issue beyond just you plug somebody into a search engine and a story says that they committed a felony or started a riot at the Capitol.
Now you're dealing with something you plug it into an AI and then the AI says, oh, yes, Owen Schroyer is an insurrectionist.
Owen Schroyer is a felon.
Owen Schroyer stormed the Capitol.
And that's just not true, but that's what it gets from the internet.
But people are going to rely on it and they're going to trust it and they're going to say, oh, well, if AI says it's real, if AI says it's true, then it must be true.
And then they don't do the background research.
But let's say AI can, let's say any AI can actually form its own ideas.
Think about the dangers now where you can start using an artificial intelligence platform and it will intentionally give you bad information.
Or think about an AI platform that can get into bank records or phone data and start blackmailing people.
So who's talking about this stuff?
Is anybody addressing this stuff?
I'm not seeing it anywhere.
All right, President Trump is at the Federal Reserve.
By the way, we have some other clips of Trump beforehand and some stuff from last night as well.
He's speaking right now, though, live at the Federal Reserve with Jerome Powell.
As good as we're doing, we'd do better if we had lower interest rates.
And we should.
We're prime.
Don't forget, without us, the whole world collapses.
So we should have the lowest interest rate because, you know, you can talk about Switzerland, you can talk about wonderful countries, no debt, no, but without us, everything collapses.
We should have the lowest interest rate.
And if you took it down three points, not a little bit, but three points, if you got us down to one, we would save more than a trillion dollars basically with just a paper transfer.
You wouldn't be cutting costs of anything.
You wouldn't be building anything.
Just a move of the hand saying we're going to lower interest rates.
You would save a trillion dollars a year.
And there's nothing you can do to save that kind of money.
He was, you might say, well, bottom line is we had an honest, candid conversation about some of the overruns at this building.
We had it in my banking committee, and he said we were wrong.
And it turns out we were right.
Thank God President Trump and his team took enough time to dig into some of the details.
And the details are clear.
We need to get this project done.
We would like to keep it where it is or a little lower.
But at the end of the day, the point is that instead of talking about interest rates, instead of talking about first-time homebuyers, instead of talking about the heat in our economy, that's a good thing.
We're talking about an overrun on the Federal Reserve building as opposed to the Federal Reserve objective of lowering and keeping our economy full.
It's a very complex thing that could have been made simple.
I built a great hotel, and the great hotel that everybody in this group knows very well, it's called the Old Post Office, and it's a much bigger project than this, and I spent $200 million building it.
And it was taken down to the steel, for the most part, taken down, you know, you've seen it go up.
And I built it quickly, and I built it for $200 million.
That was a much bigger job than this.
Spent $200 million, and it's got marble bathrooms, the top fixtures, the best of everything, all brand new.
I mean, look, I have one dispute, and the dispute, there could be some things with money and, you know, where it comes from, how it's come from, how it's printed, where it's printed, all of the standard things with the Fed.
But I just want to see one thing happen, very simple.
Interest rates have to come down.
If the interest rates don't come down, we're knocking it out of the park with high interest rates.
If interest rates come down, then that final little element kicks in, and that's housing.
And the sad part is that people, wonderful young people, young couples starting off, they can't get a mortgage because the rates are too high, I think.
Tim knows that better than anybody, I think.
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But Mr. President, if the rates are hurting families in the country, why let that keep going for another eight months?
All right, now we've got some other clips when Trump was actually going around the construction site there from the inside and also him addressing Jerome Powell directly.
Also said some interesting things last night, and then I want to show a DeSantis disruption from yesterday as well.
But let's go, guys.
Do we have the Trump-Powell clip ready to go?
So this was also earlier today.
We may compile some other clips from earlier today, but this was Trump with Powell, you know, kind of giving the old school direct Trump SmackDown here in clip 10.
So Powell looks just completely disorganized here and doesn't even know the own bill for his own renovations.
This is actually quite insane.
I'm trying to wrap my head around this.
So they're saying it's going to be a $3.1 billion project.
This sounds completely impossible.
Now, I believe, and this may change because I think there's a couple new NFL stadiums about to go up in Buffalo and in Tennessee that may eclipse, but I believe Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas was the most expensive stadium.
And I'm using this as an example.
Guys, will you plug in how expensive it was to build the Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas?
I believe it was about $2 billion.
I think it was just over $2 billion, if memory serves.
We can get the exact number.
And I'm just saying, how can renovations at a federal building that's probably a tenth the size of a football stadium, $1.9 billion for at the time, I don't know if it still is, at the time, that was the most expensive stadium project.
Like I said, it may have been eclipsed by they're going to do a new stadium in Buffalo, new stadium in Nashville.
How can it be $3 billion to do renovations in D.C. in a much smaller building?
I mean, this is just ludicrous.
That is just insulting.
And I guess they explained it to President Trump today, and I guess he saw enough of an explanation to kind of just shrug his shoulders and just say, fine, whatever, just get it done.
It's ridiculous, but get it done.
How is that?
Who is getting these deals?
$3 billion?
It's disgusting.
So the overview here, why is it so expensive?
Rising construction costs.
Unforeseen issues like asbestos and lead contamination.
Oh, boy.
I could have 9-11'd it.
And the need to maintain the building's historic aesthetic while modernizing its infrastructure.
So, okay, so $3 billion?
Wasn't that a big part of the 9-11 conspiracy?
They say they didn't want to deal with the asbestos removal, so they just decided to pull it.
They took out the insurance claim, and then they pulled it.
Boy, can't wait for all that to be rediscussed in September.
That'll be fun.
So $3 billion.
You can tell Trump is frustrated, and Powell just looks like an airhead.
When I traveled to the Middle East in May, every leader I met was thrilled to do business with American tech firms and with America, and they were all thrilled to meet me, believe it or not.
It's hard to believe it.
But they were, by the way, most powerful woman in the world is here today.
Susie Wells, stand up, please.
Susie Wells.
Chief of staff.
She can take out a country with a mere phone call.
No, they just voted her the most powerful woman anywhere in the world.
She might be the most powerful person in the world, I think.
Now, getting back to the issues here, I think Trump needs to do a bigger speech addressing the interest rates and addressing the economy.
Now, the problem that you have, and you can look at a bunch of different angles of this, but you've got record credit card debt, you've got record student loan debt, you've got a record amount of people defaulting on their debt, record amount of people defaulting on their mortgages.
So you've got this huge debt bubble, and it's not coming to an end.
There's no end to this debt bubble.
It's ongoing, and it continues to grow.
So the Fed is just saying we don't have a choice.
We have to keep the interest rates this high because of the debt bubble.
But of course, Trump is saying we have to help the people.
We have to get a better economy for the people, and we need to lower these interest rates.
And so they both have their points.
But it's almost like it's not even addressing the heart of the issue.
Because here's what's going to happen.
It's like if you've ever played the board game Monopoly, you get kind of a brief understanding of how this works.
Once the banks or once the mortgage holders go broke and this all gets defaulted on, there's going to be all of this property up for grabs.
And so what happens in Monopoly when you lose and you land on somebody and you go broke?
Well, the guy with all the money buys all the properties.
So that's what is ultimately going to happen here.
So how do you avoid this debt crash resulting in BlackRock or Vanguard just buying up all these properties?
Because then they can control the markets and then nobody owns anything.
So the interest rates have been a problem.
The housing market and how expensive it is has been a problem.
The prices of houses just keep going up at a much higher rate than people's incomes.
So it's kind of this issue that just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.
And it's either just a permanent debt bubble or it crashes and then Vanguard BlackRock or some other group that has all the money just comes up and owns all the properties.
So this is at the heart of this issue.
And I'd like to see Trump, and if he wanted to assemble a team even, I'd like to see this addressed.
I'd like to see them address this and come up with a plan for this to try to figure out how to make homes affordable again.
Because lowering interest rates is going to be good, but there will be a counter response and they'll just rise the price of the house.
So you're going to end up paying it, but you'll do better on the back end.
I'd like to see them do a larger press conference on this issue of homeownership.
I'd like to see something addressed here.
I'd like to see an executive order.
Something has to be done about this.
We have to make it so that an American can afford to own a home.
We have to do this.
There needs to be a plan.
There has to be a plan.
We have to address this.
And all we see is it gets harder and harder for people to buy a home.
The average age of the first-time home buyer is higher than it's ever been.
You have more people defaulting on their mortgages than ever before.
It's like, how do we fix this?
Is the Federal Reserve partly to blame for this?
So how do we address that?
How do we fix that?
So lowering interest rates, it's a nice kind of short-term, superficial solution, but it doesn't deal with the larger issue.
But I think if you're President Trump and you're trying to move on from all of the Epstein noise, I think that's the way to go.
You need to call a press conference.
You need to bring in some people, big banks, Federal Reserve people, housing market people, whatever.
Like assemble a team and say, hey, why is the age of the first-time homebuyer now higher than it's ever been?
Why are more people defaulting on their mortgages than ever before?
What can we do?
What can we do to fix this?
What can we do to make Americans able to afford a home again?
That's something that will be good and it's necessary.
And Trump can communicate well on these issues.
So you kind of get a hint of it there, but it's like, let's really focus on this.
Let's make America affordable for Americans again.
All right, we got some other breaking news stories to cover here, and we are going to go to some other clips with Trump and Powell.
But let's handle some business first.
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Yeah, I wonder if that's going to become an issue when politicians start getting up and trying to do public events and somebody decides they're going to start screaming about the Epstein list or the clients.
Or the sex trafficking.
Or the pedophile island.
Or the pedophile Express.
Yeah.
This thing ain't going away, folks.
Not going away.
All right.
We have a big announcement from the desk of President Trump coming up on the other side of this break.
We're handling real issues.
This is the stuff.
You want to get us off of Epstein?
You want to start getting into the winning category again?
This is how you do it.
We'll have it on the other side.
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man I can't let it slide I am a real American Fight for the rights of every man I am a real American Fight for what's right Fight for your life Fight for your life
Well, one of the all-time greats, one of the best ever get inside of the ring and entertain the world.
Hulk Hogan has passed today at the age of 71.
An absolute legend, one of the greatest performers of all time, a great American, brought a new level of patriotism to the WWF in the 1980s, extended his legendary status through the Attitude Era, and passes today, leaving a legacy unlike any other, the great Hulk Hogan.
And if you're like me or a little bit older, everybody's got their favorite Hulk Hogan moments, Hulk Hogan memories.
Maybe for some younger people, it was just Last year, when he did this at the RNC in clip five, what happened last week when they took a shot at my hero when they tried to kill the next president of the United States?
I'm going to read from this executive order here from the White House, the fact sheets.
But, you know, they really did a number on us.
And they made us out to be cold-hearted for what they would eventually call the funny farms, where you would institutionalize people that were malcontent, mentally ill, drug addicts, whatever.
We all see them on the streets.
I was out in Austin last night having dinner.
It's just everywhere.
I mean, just everywhere, folks.
You walk.
I finished eating dinner at the restaurant.
We walk three blocks down the road to another place.
And, you know, it's just, there's homeless everywhere.
And, you know, it kind of breaks your heart.
But they did a number and they said, oh, you're inhumane for institutionalizing them.
And they put out all these movies that was total propaganda.
Like one flew over the cuckoo's nest to make it look even worse.
And it's like, oh, they're being tortured and they don't belong there.
And so this is, it was like this whole propaganda effort to know, put them out on the streets.
That's the humane thing to do.
No, that's not the humane thing to do.
The humane thing to do is to try to help these people.
But the common sense thing to do is to get them off the streets, whatever that means.
So it looks like this is going to become an agenda for the White House now.
So this is what they just put out.
Ending vagrancy and restoring order.
Today, President Trump signed an executive order to restore order to American cities and remove vagrant individuals from our streets, redirecting federal resources towards programs that tackle substance abuse and returning to the acute necessity of civil commitment.
The order directs the Attorney General to reverse judicial precedents and end consent decrees that limit state and local governments' ability to commit individuals on the streets who are a risk to themselves or others.
We all know what that is.
We've all seen that.
You live in a major metropolitan area.
You know exactly what that is.
The order requires the Attorney General to work with the Secretary of Health and Human Services, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, and Secretary of Transportation to prioritize grants for states and municipalities that enforce prohibitions on open, illicit drug use, urban camping and loitering, and Urban squatting and track the location of sex offenders.
You know, it's wild, man.
You walk, some parts of Austin, it's just overwhelmed.
And I mean, the stench and the scenes, and they start fires in the woods that cause damage.
They burn down a famous landmark, a tower right on the riverfront down here.
And I know it's not just Austin that has these problems, but I mean, it's bad.
You've seen it.
The order redirects funding to ensure that individuals camping on streets and causing public disorder and that are suffering from serious mental illness or addiction are moved into treatment centers, assisted outpatient treatment or other facilities.
The order ensures discretionary grants for substance use, disorder prevention, treatment, and recovery.
Do not fund drug injection sites or illicit drug use.
That's what they do in California.
It's insane.
And I believe that goes on in Oregon as well.
The order stops sex offenders who receive homelessness assistance from being housed with children.
Can't even believe that would be going on.
And allows programs to exclusively house women and children.
Ensuring Americans feel safe in their own cities and towns.
President Trump is taking a new approach focused on protecting public safety because surrendering our cities and citizens to disorder and fear is neither compassionate to the homeless nor to other citizens.
You know, somebody ought to ask Gavin Newsom where all the money for the homeless projects went in California.
Somebody ought to ask Gavin about that.
Here's some of the scenes that you'll see in Austin.
Yeah, you can't go downtown without seeing it, smelling it.
And it's sad.
It's sad.
Continuing here.
The number of individuals living on the streets in the United States on a single night during last year of the Biden administration was 274,000.
It was the highest number ever recorded.
The overwhelming majority of these individuals are addicted to drugs, have a mental health disorder, or both.
Federal and state governments have spent tens of billions of dollars on failed programs that address homelessness but not its root causes, leaving other citizens vulnerable to public safety threats.
Shifting these individuals into long-term institutional settings for humane treatment is the most proven way to restore public order.
I also believe this is a bit of an economic issue, and I'm not trying to simplify this, but I mean, when you have a healthy economy and you have Main Street booming, you can get a job.
And if you can get a job, you can have a sense of purpose.
And if you can have a sense of purpose, you don't want to live in a hut down by the river.
But I've gone inside of these facilities.
I've filmed it multiple times.
And some of them aren't mentally ill or drug abusers.
They just are like, can't get a job, don't want to get a job.
And so I just live out here.
But it's insane what you see when you go into these things.
Continuing on, making America safe again, President Trump is committed to ending homelessness across America.
In 2023, President Trump said we will use every tool, level, and authority to get the homeless off our streets.
We want to take care of them, but they have to be off our streets.
In March 2025, President Trump signed an executive order to beautify Washington, D.C., directing the National Park Service to clear all homeless encampments and graffiti on federal lands.
In May 2025, President Trump signed an executive order establishing the National Center for Warrior Independence, a place where homeless veterans can go to receive the care, benefits, and services to which they are entitled.
As part of First Lady Melania Trump's Be Best Initiative, the Department of Housing and Urban Development announced a $1.8 million investment to prevent homelessness among young Americans aging out of the foster care system.
Now, how you go about enforcing this is going to be interesting because you're not going to have the majority of these individuals that you're addressing here are not going to go willingly.
I think that that's just a harsh reality of this.
And I just look at an example here that we deal with.
They had a program that was statewide, and they were kind of hush-hush about it because it's not very popular.
But they built this facility in downtown Austin.
They call it the Arch.
And you can go there any time of day, any time of night, and you'll see about 100 homeless people.
And some of them, the real types that you just don't want to see.
You don't want to be around.
But they started, as a part of this initiative, busing homeless people from Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio into Austin with the hopes that they could have this facility, have a success story, expand it, and then kind of have this program to get homeless people off the streets.
Well, it was a complete failure.
It led to the homeless calamity that exists now in Austin, and the homeless don't even like to go to that center because it has rules like you can't do drugs.
So what ends up happening now, I think it's like Fifth and Brazos maybe.
And so they just sit out there all day, all night, and they do drugs and everything else.
You might even catch them, you know, bumping uglies.
But they stay out there because for three meals a day, they can get in line and get a free meal, but then they don't have to stay at the facility so they can still stay outside and do drugs and everything else.
So it's been a complete disaster.
So what are you going to do If you're part of this program and I go downtown and I say, all right, you can't be homeless anymore.
We're taking you inside or we're taking you to the institution.
What do you think is going to happen?
And then lawyers are going to get involved.
So I just wonder how they're going to be able to do this successfully.
And I think it's great.
It needs to be done.
And you might have to, I mean, I don't know what you do.
I don't know what do you do about a vagrant, homeless person that hasn't bathed in years, that doesn't want to go to a facility.
And then you say, we're taking you, we're institutionalizing you, we're going to get you help.
We're going to get your rehab.
And they say, no.
So what do you do?
Do you arrest them?
Do you take them by force?
So that's where you're going to kind of run into the problems here.
And I mean, really, you could almost use Austin and they might try to do the test in D.C. So they might do a test run on this in D.C., but you could really do a test run here in Austin because of how bad it is and just see what goes on.
And then I guess the official name, is this the official name of it or is this a different one, guys?
So the executive order here, ending crime and disorder on America's streets.
So it says here, it's kind of similar to the fact sheet, endemic vagrancy, disorderly behavior, sudden confrontations, and violent attacks have made our cities unsafe.
It talks about all the people record high living homelessness.
It talks about how they're addicted and have mental problems.
Nearly two-thirds of America's homeless individuals report having regularly used hard drugs like methamphetamines, cocaine, or opioids in their lifetimes.
An equally large share of homeless individuals reported suffering from mental health conditions.
The federal government and the states have spent billions of dollars on field programs that address homelessness, but not its root causes.
So it's virtually kind of repeating some of these things in the fact sheets.
And I guess it gets into here how they plan to do this.
It's one of those things that just hadn't been addressed for so long that now it's so bad.
So it's like you kind of have to do it with a heavy hand.
But, you know, some of these quote-unquote vagrants, you know, they get a little henry.
They get a little henry there, and they like to put up a fight.
It's not exactly a fight that you want.
So definitely something long overdue.
Now it becomes a matter of how you're going to be able to do this.
President Trump also released this statement earlier today.
I am pleased to announce that the Trump administration has reached a historic agreement with Columbia University.
Columbia has agreed to pay a penalty of $200 million to the United States government for violating federal law, in addition to over $20 million to their Jewish employees who were unlawfully targeted and harassed.
$20 million to the Jews.
Have fun with that one.
Columbia has also committed to ending their ridiculous DEI policies, targeting whites.
Will the whites get the money?
Admitting students based off only on merit and protecting the civil liberties of their students on campus.
Numerous other higher education institutions that have hurt so many and been so unfair and unjust and have wrongly spent federal money, much of it from our government, are upcoming.
It's a great honor to have been involved, and I want to thank and congratulate Linda McMahon and all those who worked with us on this important deal.
I also want to thank and commend Columbia University for agreeing to do what is right.
I look forward to watching them have a great future in our country, maybe greater than ever before.
Remember a couple months ago, there was a, I don't know, I forget where it came from, and the headline was, Columbia University doesn't do enough for the Jews.
Well, so you're going to cut them a $20 million check?
Is that going to be enough?
How many different ways does that get split, by the way?
How many Jewish employees are there at Columbia University, do you think?
$20 million.
Congratulations.
You just won the lottery.
I guess that's literally the victim lottery.
But to the whites or to the Asians that get discriminated against, systemically, nothing for you.
The victim lottery has just cashed in if you're a Jewish employee at Columbia University.
All right.
Can't make that up.
By the way, Elon Musk says service will be restored soon, but Starlink is down worldwide.
Elon Musk's satellite internet suffers worldwide blackout.
Tens of thousands of people across the globe have been impacted by the Starlink outage, which has prevented users in multiple countries from accessing the internet.
Musk said moments ago he anticipates that it will be back up in no time.
I don't think, has Starlink ever had a problem like that before with a global internet outage?
So, yeah, I don't think we've heard of that before.
Hopefully not a sign of things to come.
Also, the Ukraine front lines now without their communication tech there either.
But I'm sure they will get that restored, As Musk is saying.
All right.
Now, I want to maybe get to some of this geopolitical news, economic news when we come back from this break.
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Okay, halfway through the show, we're going to open up the phones now.
Let's get the number up on the screen, 877-789-2539.
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Number is on the screen.
We've just gotten the first reports out of the Maxwell meeting.
Now, the lawyer for Maxwell representing her right now is David Marcus, who was meeting with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch.
Marcus said this, Miss Maxwell answered every single question.
She never stopped.
She never invoked a privilege.
She never declined to answer.
She answered all the questions truthfully, honestly, and to the best of her ability.
And that's all the comment we're going to have today about the meeting.
We don't want to comment about the substance of the meeting for obvious reasons, and we will go from there.
So not sure how much more we'll get out of that.
I don't know if the DOJ or Todd Blanche himself intends to make any statements regarding this meeting, but this is all I'm seeing so far on that.
If anything else comes from the meeting, as far as the news is concerned, we will bring that to you.
So, in the meantime, though, phone lines are open, 877-789-2539.
Okay.
You know, speaking of AI, and maybe we get some calls on this, it can do some pretty amazing stuff.
And I'd like to think that I've got a good eye of seeing an AI video that may look real and saying, no, that's fake, or an image that may look real and saying, no, that's fake.
But it's starting to get to the point where you may have to be an expert to even tell.
Now, this one, you can probably tell, but somebody did a spoof here, a little comedy piece on George Floyd, and they can take an image and turn it into a motion picture.
And man, let's say people that are naive or vulnerable to technical digital propaganda might not be able to tell the difference.
So I'd say this is obviously AI, but could this fool somebody?
Here's George Floyd in a new commercial in clip four.
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A few years ago, I couldn't breathe, but then I started taking this.
You know, there's going to be a lot of pushback from the pharmaceutical lobby on that.
Thomas Massey earlier today.
I see some people are excited for real Donald Trump at Donald Trump to make recess appointments to fill out his staff now that Congress has recessed for August.
Bad news, Speaker Johnson and John Thune plan to convene and adjourn every four or five days to block Trump from making those appointments.
That should be interesting.
Should that play out, as Thomas Massey is saying.
And Massey, I mean, you can have your problems with Massey, whatever, but when Massey makes a prediction about how things are about to go in Congress, usually goes exactly how he predicts.
Colonel Douglas McGregor with this statement moments ago, Trump pledged to end costly military interventions lacking strategic benefit to the American people.
Instead, his administration continued and expanded policies resembling those of the Biden administration, including proxy conflicts with Russia and a muted response to the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
You know, and could Tulsi be being used a little bit here?
I just wonder.
It's become clear Trump's named in the Epstein files as he was briefed back in May by the DOJ.
But I also might assume Trump probably told Musk the truth before the bromance breakup.
But the flip-flopping by Bondi and Trump, coupled with the bizarre unsigned DOJ memo, just adds more chaos to this administration.
And maybe Tulsi's now being used for damage control by being handed the old Russia story when just two months ago she wasn't even allowed to attend the Intel meeting.
Are there any believers other than Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin that think a DOJ interview with Ghislaine Maxwell will provide any credible info they don't want exposed?
Well, here's, you know, we can pontificate and theorize, but the truth is we have to just wait and see the results as far as the Maxwell interview or whatever comes of that.
You know, the Tulsi Gabbard story, I do think, is interesting.
It was very widely reported about how she was kind of put on the sidelines, kind of put on the bench for some of the foreign intelligence and policy meetings.
And I think we all know why.
There's people in there that don't trust her because she's not fully loyal to Israel, to put it in simple terms.
And so we kind of saw some other stuff going on when Trump was trying to do deals and going outside of Netanyahu's scope to negotiate with Hamas or the Houthis or Iran.
And that angered Netanyahu because, you know, he wants to be in control of all of this stuff.
So, yeah, there's been a lot of that going on.
But to get to the direct issue of, okay, Gabbard is now coming out with the Russia files.
Look, I'm seeing people debate about the legitimacy of all of this over legal issues like presidential immunity, over legal issues like statute of limitations.
So this is all just legal debates that are ongoing.
The real question is, as you said, are they really going to do something about this or is it just a distraction?
Do they really intend to criminally investigate or charge members of the Obama administration or is it just red meat for the base to chew on while they try to get this Epstein thing under control?
That's kind of how I see it.
I'm 10, you know, because the timing of it, yeah, in politics, you always have to consider the timing.
It's like, why do it now?
Well, it's pretty obvious why you do it now.
And people trust Tulsi Gabbard, so you send her out to do it, and she's the intelligence, you know, she's in charge of that division, so she'd be the one that's supposed to be quarterbacking it.
But it's like, this is all old news.
You know, this is all old news.
There's nothing new here.
And so you say, why do it now?
Well, again, I think it's to distract.
Will they end up doing anything?
I wouldn't bet on it.
That's going to be a time will tell thing.
But here's the issue.
And this is why the Epstein thing is just like, it's just like the biggest addition of pressure.
It's like you're already in a pressure cooker, and then the Epstein thing was just like adding the most pressure to it.
There was a stolen election in 2020.
people need to be arrested.
The Obama administration was illegally spying on Trump and his associates.
People need to be arrested.
They ran a fake Russian collusion hoax and they broke the law to do it.
People need to be arrested.
Okay, so that's what this comes down to.
We have deep state criminals operating at the highest levels of our government, and they need to be arrested.
And so the Epstein thing is just like another one of these issues where it's like the big criminals never go to jail.
The big guys, the big fish, the big D.C. crooks never go to jail.
And so, oh, oh, now we're going to get the scalp.
It's going to be Obama.
It's going to be Brennan.
It's going to be Clapper.
And it's just, are you really going to do it?
Are you really going to do that?
I don't think Trump really wants to do it.
And there's going to be so much backlash.
There's going to be so much backlash.
And I'm saying, yeah, just like the same reason why we want transparency with Epstein, same reason why you need to arrest the deep state.
But if you're going to do it, there's all kinds of things.
You either just have to say, justice be done, may the heavens fall, or you have to roll this thing out in such a perfect PR strategy, communication strategy, that whenever the backlash comes for exposing Obama's crimes,
it's so clear, it's so open and shut for even the public to understand that when you do see the backlash or the riots or whatever, the American people will say, that's not a justified response.
So I don't think it matters because I don't think they're going to do it anyway.
But those are the issues they're going to be facing.
But yeah, I mean, you kind of have to anticipate when you call in under a fake name and under a fake reason why you're calling, and then you go and plug some show every time.
It's like, yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised that they hang up on you.
But hey, I'm glad you agree.
So congratulations.
I guess we all agree on one thing today.
So that's good.
All right.
Well, thank you for the call.
I don't know how you couldn't agree with me on everything.
Hey, so my question is, nobody, we want these files from a government we don't trust.
And that's the thing that's driving me crazy.
And it reminds me of Yuri Besminoff when he talked about there'll be so much information that nobody will know which end is up.
And whether it's JFK files, Martin Luther King files, Epstein files, they were just in the hands of the Biden regime for four years, the one that locked you up and did all the terrible things.
So the Democrats call Trump a fascist.
We call them, you know, saying that they committed treason.
But we still want files that were in these people's hands, both sides.
And that's what I can't get my head around is who believes anything that the government has to say in the first place.
Well, you're always going to have the trust issues.
And obviously, if Epstein is what we believed he was, which was a CIA asset, an intelligence agency asset for probably multiple intelligence agencies and engaging in some of the most corrupt deep state activities that we could ever know about, obviously it's in the government's interest to protect that from getting out.
So yeah, I mean, I guess the belief, I guess the idea is that we trust Trump or we trust the Trump administration more so than any other administration.
And so we hope we get truth and transparency.
But I guess now people even maybe don't feel that way about this administration anymore.
Well, I hear what you're saying, but I mean, if they're willing to put out a fake assessment about the Russia stuff, who's saying that they won't put fake stuff into the Epstein file?
Because for so long, Bongino and Cash and the rest of them were so hot on this, so certain about it, they may get in there and actually read the file.
Well, who's to say they didn't alter it before it got into their hand?
And that's what, I guess, frustrates me about all this is we know Epstein was doing bad stuff.
We knew there was a bunch of people that, you know, probably very high up.
And I think you just hit the nail on the head.
The people at the top of the deep state, the higher ups, they never get what's coming.
And I think that's part of the reason Trump Got elected, a big reason, but it seems like that's just going to continue.
And of course, I feel that if we don't drain the swamp, then the swamp gets back into power and it gets worse than ever.
And it entrenches itself in ways that we can't even imagine.
And so that's why it's so important to do this.
And that's going to be the question.
Where are the arrests?
That's going to be the question.
Where are the arrests?
And I mean, you want to talk Russia gate.
You want to talk Spygate.
Dan Bongino wrote, I think, two books.
I know he wrote one book.
He might have written two books on that.
So, I mean, it's the guy that literally wrote the book on these crimes.
So it's like, you got it.
Same thing with the Fauci case.
You got the guy that literally wrote the book on Fauci, RFK Jr. in there.
So yeah, we want deep state arrests.
We want these crooks arrested.
They come after us.
They're going to come after us again.
So yeah, that's what we expect.
But see, here's the problem is people just can't really seem to think logically when trying to handle all these different political bouncing balls.
And so it's really, it seems complex, but it's really just basic logic.
If they're going to say the Epstein files have been doctored by the Democrats in the four years of Biden, which I mean, okay, that's perfectly feasible to believe that, well, then why wouldn't they have done the same thing with the Russiagate files?
If they're going to be doctoring the Epstein files, which, by the way, if you're going to accuse that, that's a crime.
So let's see arrests.
So let's see a criminal investigation, if that's what you're going to say.
If you are saying that happened, then where is the criminal investigation?
And if there's not a criminal investigation, then I have to assume you're lying.
So that's my simple logic.
But then I apply it elsewhere.
If they're doctoring the Epstein files, then why wouldn't they have doctored the ObamaGate files?
This is just simple, basic logic here.
But because it's like there's so much noise and so many moving parts and the Trump administration just keeps throwing these new things out there, the logical thought process kind of gets lost in translation and you just kind of nod your head.
It's like, oh, okay, yeah, I believe that or no, I don't believe that.
I was watching you yesterday and I was kind of with you.
I didn't really want to hear anything that Trump had to say.
And then you did that clip on him about what he was saying.
And it seems to me that the wording that he used with that was very different because what I basically got from it is basically he's wanting all these different AI companies to basically share their source code with each other back and forth and create like a universal kernel platform for the AI,
which now, since there's no state control over it now, then the government has total control over it with that planning tier and all the surveillance that they're planning on bringing in.
And I was wondering if anybody else got that impression or if it was just me.
I believe they want to baseline the entire operating system for any type of AI to where it's the same standard where they got their access and back doors into everything that they need to basically control us again.
And you can fatten up the sheep and you can feed the people of the world, you know, of America.
And that was just a kind of a thought.
And the other thing was, I listened a lot also after you guys have done after 10 hours.
I listened to that X22.
And basically he's saying that you got to get the judiciary, you know, control of the judiciary, the judges, you know, because right now, if you was to prosecute any of these villains, you know, they're all going to get off the hook because there's so many judges that are left-wing judges that, you know, nothing will happen.
And I'm not trying to be rude to anybody or my sources or anything, but the Trump administration is trying to quell this Epstein drama, obviously.
And basically what you just brought up is one of the things, one of the talking points that's kind of being pushed out there into other people in the media to say, hey, you know, here, the problem is the judges.
The other one is they just want everything blamed on Pam Bondi.
So it's like, these are the two things that are like, hey, you know, let's corral this Epstein narrative.
Let's put it on the judges.
Let's put it on Bondi, which may or may not be fair.
But to me, it's not the time for excuses.
It's the time for action.
So if that's going to be the problem, then expose it.
Just like they did in the request for the grand jury testimony, okay, the judge said no.
All right.
So now people look at the judge and they say, why is the judge blocking it?
We send criminal referrals to Pam Bonte's desk.
People say, well, okay, why isn't Pam Bonte doing anything?
So it's like, I'm not going to do what the White House wants me to do like I'm like a trained dog or something.
But yeah, I mean, if you start taking action and Bondi doesn't follow up or you start taking action and judges block you, then yeah, we can sit here and say, look, a judge blocked the grand jury testimony.
Look, we sent the criminal referrals to Pam Bondi's desk.
She's done nothing with it.
We don't even know where her desk is, apparently.
But when it's like, when you're trying to do this damage control and you're sending out the messaging, like, hey, you know, here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
Say this.
Do this.
It's like, no, that's not how this is going to go.
That's not how this is going to go.
And these are all self-inflicted wounds.
So it's like, and I see all these people attacking anybody that's trying to cover the Epstein thing or it's made a big case of it in the last couple of weeks.
It's like, you're getting attacked now.
And it's like, hold on a second.
We didn't do this.
We didn't campaign on the Epstein files.
We are not the ones with the binders that's on my desk.
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Let me quickly just address something with my crew on air here, guys.
Do we have a guest ready to go or do you want to just, is he ready to go?
Okay.
Joining me now is Alex Rosen, the Predator poacher.
And every once in a while, he'll have a big bust or a big story and he'll reach out and ask for some coverage on.
Unfortunately, I mean, I would say that this is shocking, Alex, but I suppose you've dealt with this before.
What happened with this bust that you want to break the news here?
I mean, this is for all the different for all the different predators that you've caught, I mean, this is about as much presentable evidence right there on the scene to law enforcement as you can get.
I'm actually meeting with the cops when I get off here.
And due to the massive online pressure of interviews like these and just us blowing up their Twitter, they have responded and they're meeting with me later.
And Internal Affairs called me at 7 in the morning today saying they're looking into the response of those officers.
So the pressure is definitely working and we're not giving up on this.
I mean, this guy has a real-life victim that he can keep victimizing.
And an immediate family member of the six-year-old victim reached out to me today, and I basically gave her the case number and said to call the cops on this.
And the cops have already gone to visit her.
So, I mean, the ball's rolling, but it's only rolling because of the backlash.
Like, if we didn't say anything about this, this guy would just be a free man for the rest of his life.
And with the crimes he admitted to committing, he's absolutely facing the rest of his life in prison if Virginia Beach does their job.
I'll go ahead and, you know, it's kind of like maybe it's a superstitious thing with Alex, too, because whenever he comes on the show to address something directly, like the stake and shake arrest, or like, hey, they didn't arrest this pedophile, we always get results on the other side.
So let's see if we can continue that trend.
Okay, we are going to go back to the phone lines here.
Hey, I just want to tell you, man, congratulations for going through all that stuff and not spewing hatred or allowing yourself to just get caught up by the people that were trying to crucify you.
Well, you know, in a way, because, yeah, since January 6th, the insurrection garbage, which we know was a lie, I watched it the whole time.
I was supposed to be there.
I'm glad I didn't go in a way because I wouldn't have came out maybe as well as y'all did.
But I know for a fact, nobody ever, all the way to Trump never said we're going to get violent.
All the stuff that was talked about beforehand, we know what happened, Owen.
Nobody showed up with vests.
Nobody would have brought kids with them.
You know, people came out there to argue against the decision of Joe Biden being elected, which we know was a fraud.
That's why everybody came out there.
That's why everybody even tuned in.
But I'm just glad to have somebody like you and InfoWars out there that are really investigative journalists, dude.
I've watched you for a long time, like even back when Caitlin, I don't even remember her last name, was still a part of the team.
And it's, you know, you could call it ambush journalism, whatever it is.
It just kind of goes hand in hand with Alex Rollson, I believe.
I don't even know his last name.
I tune in.
I don't like pedophiles.
I have nieces.
I have nephews.
I have people that have children.
I don't want those people around any of them.
Pedophiles do not need to be around children.
And it makes me think about with this homeless situation.
If they start moving them out of the way, like, how do you do it without violating their rights?
I would say almost like Alec does with these pedophiles when he confronts them.
He doesn't violate them.
He doesn't assault them, does not force them to do anything.
He's just there to observe and basically get the information.
I mean, they're trying to shred it, burn it, whatever, piss on it, anything they can do to just destroy this country.
We know that.
And it's just like one thing.
It's just one little card that falls.
You know, that's what they want.
And either way, I'm just saying, man, I'm grateful that you're still out here.
I'm grateful for Harrison Smith.
I'm grateful for everybody all the way up to the top, man, that aren't better than anybody.
But you just tell it how it is, man.
And you don't ambush anybody.
You just put the truth out there, your truth, your preference for the truth, whatever, but the truth, and open it up for debate.
Debate's not bad, man.
That opens up lanes for understanding.
You do that with people that are not Christian.
They could be Jewish.
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And, you know, I was saying this in an earlier interview because somebody was commenting on a lot of the backlash that I've been getting lately for, I guess you could call it being critical of the Trump administration, however you want to phrase it.
Again, I just look at it as calling balls and strikes.
I'm just doing political play-by-play.
And yeah, I get these comments, and some of them are nasty, and some of them are like, you know, oh, been a fan of you forever, listen every day, can't listen anymore, what you've done to Trump, and you've turned on Trump and all this stuff.
And part of me is just sitting here thinking like, well, do I just do like a video address on this and just say, look, here's the deal?
You know, I'm just calling it as I see it.
I'm just doing political play-by-play.
I'm the same person.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Nobody's turned on Trump.
But the analogy is it's like if you're listening to a baseball game and the team is losing and the announcer says the team's losing four to nothing, it's like, do you yell at the announcer?
It's like, oh, this announcer, he's turned on the team.
I don't want this announcer anymore.
He's bad.
It's like, no, the team is losing.
He's telling you the truth.
And I ultimately decided it's not even worth addressing it.
But I suppose that's going to happen.
I suppose people just want to hear what they want to hear.
And so it is what it is.
And so if you just want to hear nothing but, hey, it's the greatest thing ever, greatest presidency ever, best six months in the history of the world, you know, if you just want to hear that, then fine.
You can find people out there that'll tell you that all day long, and you'll have no clue what's really going on in the world.
But that's what we do here.
We just present the facts as we see them.
I just do political play-by-play, and we're going to continue to do that.
And don't let all the brand new Trump people, you know, you and I both know, I've been here since the beginning, since you started doing this, the original cuck destroyer, the cuck slayer.
It's become like this, they're like ankle biters now, where it's all like they accuse, like they'll accuse us of engagement farming, but then they're the ones doing the engagement farming, like constantly trying to get a response out of me.
And it was kind of fun for a while.
I'm over it now.
But the way you describe it is, that's what's so crazy.
It's like you said, it's like, man, you guys, we've been in this arena, just thinking about the Trump years.
It's like, we've been in this arena since 2015.
We know the playing field.
We know the players.
We know the game.
And it's like these newcomers are coming into the ring, telling us what's what.
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But at any rate, to get back to this whole thing, main reason I called, main thing I wanted to really get at with you here is I keep hearing people say, oh, the Democrats or whoever or somebody altered this or alters that.
Well, did we all forget who was the president before Joe Biden?
I mean, if we're going to go back and say somebody could alter this or somebody could alter that, who was in charge of all this stuff when Epstein got arrested, when he killed himself, apparently, supposedly, right?
Which no one believes, obviously, and we never will.
If Trump was in charge back then, how are we just supposed to all take that and be like, well, yep, okay.
Well, there's no doubt that the Trump administration, and thank you for the call and the plug, Johnny.
There's no doubt the Trump administration knows that they basically have these sycophants and cheerleaders that will do whatever they're told to do and believe whatever they're told.
And so then there's this frustration when everybody won't play ball.
And then the MAGA cheerleaders and the face painters and the pom-pom waivers, they see that not everybody's picking up and shaking the pom-poms and then they get mad.
It's very cult-like behavior.
It just is.
And, you know, it's like, I don't want to turn this into some bigger political ordeal on the right wing, but I have to observe and report to you.
You start to understand a little bit what drives people to the left.
You start to understand it.
Because I have had some of the most nasty attacks on me in the last month from right-wingers.
From right-wingers.
From some people I thought were my friends.
At least in the media landscape.
Professional landscape.
I mean, just some of the most nasty stuff.
I mean, stuff that I'm not even, stuff I don't even want to really talk about yet because it'll seem like it's a big deal and I don't want to make a big deal of it.
But I mean, just real nasty stuff.
And so you kind of go through it and experience it and you're like, wow, yeah, this is what drives, this is what drives people to the left.
It's like, this is the toxic right wing.
And there's different elements, like kind of the cultist nature with MAGA now or the warmongering nature of celebrating death and, you know, more war all the time.
And you just kind of see this.
And it's like, and I have friends and they tell me they're like, you know, they're like, now I want Republicans to lose.
Like, now I want to support the Democrats.
And I would never go there.
But it's like, no, I get it.
I get it.
I understand because people have natural tendencies.
It's in the human psychology.
So yeah, somebody starts to treat you like that and get nasty like that.
Naturally, you just say, okay, F you, I'm going to go the other way.
You want to treat me like this?
I'm going to go to the other team.
And so it's really, it's bad for American politics because it does give more power to the left.
And that's why I've just been so frustrated.
And it really all started with the Iran strikes, and it's just kind of cascaded and gotten worse.
But, you know, that, aside from the policy disagreements, it was just sitting down, looking at the political analysis and just saying, we're going to give the midterms to the Democrats.
And instead of burying the Democrat Party politically right now, which we could do, now we're going to give them a fresh tank of air.
Now we're going to give them a fresh plot of land to stand on.
And we're going to give them a path to victory in 2026 and 2028.
And then what happens?
You're fake MAGA.
You're controlled opposition.
You're bought and paid for.
You're a liar.
You're this.
You're that.
And it's just like, you don't get it.
And now that behavior is so toxic, and that behavior is so grotesque that you're pushing people to the left, if not even for political reasons, but you can even say for petty reasons, for retribution reasons where they just now are against you because you've turned into the jerk.
And I see it too.
They'll say it to me.
It's like, you've turned into a leftist.
You're like, you respond like leftists now.
And I'm just like, really?
Because you're the ones doing name-calling.
You're the ones that seem to be getting offended over facts.
Not me.
I'm the one remaining consistent here.
So, but that's just kind of like a raw, politically wonky issue.
But yeah, you're going to find out probably.
Just like I told you, Mom Donnie is going to win the New York primaries in the Democrat Party.
Yeah, I mean, all the real pollers see it.
At this rate, the Democrats will take the House in the midterms.
Now, maybe Reed Dristrichen can save it, but I don't know.
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So Trump's envoy was in Tunisia.
And you guys can B-roll clip seven here.
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Tunisian leader shows Trump Advisor images of starving Gaza children and basically is sitting there saying how unacceptable it is, the humanitarian crisis, how bad it is, what Israel and the IDF are doing over there and the dead kids and everything else.
And so the Trump envoy had to sit there and stare at it.
Everybody saw it for the world to see.
And we just continue to support Israel in this absolutely despicable, disgusting war that continues in the Gaza Strip.
And now France go in the opposite direction.
France will recognize Palestinian statehood, says Emmanuel Macron.
Now, I don't think Candace and Israel are allies in any way, shape, or form.
But you know, maybe some people in Israel, maybe some people in that lobby, that worldwide lobby, maybe they decide to put a little more steam behind Candace Owens' Brigitte Macron situation, which that whole lawsuit is just wild, by the way.
And some legal experts are telling me they think, because Candace has doubled down on it in a pretty funny way yesterday.
Some legal experts say that they think that she's in big trouble.
I guess her lawyers are telling her a different story based off of how she responded to this.
But you know what?
It's actually wild.
It's actually pretty wild that they're suing Candace for claiming that Brigitte Macron is a man, and then there's some weird stuff in the actual filing.
Well, should Michelle Obama start suing people too?
And should there be discovery, what kind of discovery are we talking about here?
I mean, there's really only one discovery that matters, and we really probably don't want to see it.
I suppose there's two angles.
It's the aspect of when they started to engage in a romantic relationship.
But then can Candace make a request to see the equipment there?
In Discovery, can Candace make a request to get a peek under the hood?
How else are you going to really know?
I guess she could do like a blood test or something to determine.
So, wow.
If Brigitte wins the lawsuit, does Michelle Obama start to think about similar lawsuits?
Would you like to have some discovery there?
No.
Thank you.
No, thank you.
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A good friend of both of ours, Matt Baker's, and a good friend of his, Lady Liberty or Audrey Morgan.
I'm going to be posting something that she's fighting with.
Our biggest child sex traffickers is our government.
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And Audrey Morgan is fighting to help a woman keep her three kids that the Child Protection Services are trying to take away from her and then put them up for adoption.
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I called in regards to Tulsa Gabbard's last question that she fielded or that she answered.
And it was a reporter by the name of Charlie.
And his question was, and if I may, I'm Jeffrey Epstein.
Can you rule out that he was connected in some way to any kind of intelligence, either foreign or domestic?
Tulsi answered, I haven't seen any evidence or information that reflects that.
If anything comes before me that changes that in any way, support the president's statement, loud and clear.
If any credible evidence comes forward, he wants the American people to see it.
That question, I think, is, in a way, that's the elephant in the room with the CIA.
I just, I can't overlook the fact that the information about Jeffrey Epstein and how many people are, I guess, aware and just have been informed that he has ties to an intelligence, you know, some form of intelligence.
They're answering these questions in a very strategic way.
They know what they're doing.
Oh, well, I haven't seen any evidence of him being connected to intelligence agencies.
Oh, if we get credible evidence, you know.
Obviously, do you think the CIA or Mossad or MI6 or whoever it is, do you think they're going to have like, oh, yeah, here's our client, Jeffrey Epstein?
Like, do you think he's got an official placard?
It's like, no.
Obviously, all of this stuff is done under the table.
Obviously, they're not keeping records of their assets like that.
So you would have to do a massive investigation to even tie any of it to Jeffrey Epstein.
But when you talk to Maxwell or you talk to his co-conspirators, maybe then you can get a better idea of what was really going on.
But this idea that, oh, we've got the CIA employee sheet, it's like, of course not.
Oh, we've got the bank transactions.
No, you operate in cash under the table.
So it's just like they know what they're doing, assuming that the American people don't know any better, and most of them don't.
So yeah, you're not going to have a Jeffrey Epstein placard and lanyard and employee sheet.
That's not how this stuff works.
It's credible evidence.
So why did Alex Acosta tell a reporter that Epstein was connected to intelligence agencies to leave him alone?
Why did Epstein used to brag about being a Mossad asset?
And of course, the big link here is Delane Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell.
So, I mean, is it credible evidence?
Is it verifiable proof?
You would argue no.
But it's like, so that's what I'm saying.
They want to play this game.
It's like, oh, yeah, well, we looked at the CIA's employment records and we didn't see Epstein in there, so there's nothing there.
Yeah, and it's, and I'm just, I'm looking at it as I just analyze it, like you said, just facts of, hey, you know, you're Talking about being transparent, well, what does transparent mean in your, what's your definition of transparent?
And then knowing that this is going on, it's just hard to, it's just like we're stuck and we're, we're basically held hostage.
We the people are held hostage because of those agencies.
And we can't get anywhere and open the thing up to just say, hey, here, this is what, and then now down the road, we'll see what gets, what comes out and who's held accountable and what type of, you know, what that even means to be held accountable and how it all plays out.
And I'm just, I'm looking at it.
It's like, I don't, I don't even, with Kulsey, I mean, if she's saying that she doesn't, hasn't seen anything, that could mean that maybe, you know, the director of the CIA, John Radcliffe, is not giving her that information and what you just said.
When you get into the WikiLeak, you see emails and you start to follow through on some of this stuff.
But I mean, it's like everywhere you go on this Epstein thing.
And there's like another connection.
I forget the guy's name, but it was the talent agency out of Italy that brought Melania in.
And eventually they met Trump.
And I forget the guy's name.
He's been friends with Trump, a big Italian New Yorker, friends forever.
And he's got connections to Maxwell.
And he's served in both Trump administration.
It's just like, dude, it's like, what the hell, man?
And then I got this story from the crew.
It's like, I can't even, I don't even want to cover this stuff.
It gets so sick.
This was from a story I'll just read from the cut from 2019.
Gheelane Maxwell's twin sisters have their own wild stories.
So it goes on here towards the end of it.
The Maxwell twins' husbands have truly bizarre histories, which has led observers to point out that they share Ghylaine's association with powerful and unconventional men.
Christine is married to Roger Molina, an astrophysicist at the University of Texas whose father, Frank Molina, was also a scientist.
Molina, The Daily Beast reveals, hung out in California with the likes of Scientology founder Ron Hubbard and rocket engineer Jack Parsons, occultist and transhumanists.
A strange echo of Jeffrey Epstein's friends in similar academic and business circles.
And Isabel's romantic history might be the strangest.
First, she married the son of Carl Jurassi, a scientist who invented the birth control pill.
Her third husband, Al Seckel, was a con man and an optical illusionist who befriended scientists and academics despite not having a degree in those fields.
Sound familiar?
He co-founded a group called the Southern California Skeptics that investigated science's relationship to the paranormal.
Secle and Isabel moved to France at some point in 2010, according to reports, where they lived in a chateau and acquired thousands of stone-age tools to sell in the U.S. That same year, Secle hosted a scientific conference on Jeffrey Epstein's private island, where Epstein also allegedly held underage girls for sex.
Presumably, the connection was Isabel's little sister, Elaine.
Secle died in 2015 from a rumored fall off a cliff near his home.
Not unlike Robert Maxwell, according to his obituary.
Secle died just a few weeks after an article in the Tablet magazine exposed his fraudulent past and his mounting debts, but the Daily Beast reports that it's not been able to find official proof of death.
Isabel had declared bankruptcy.
So it's just like you follow any one of these trails and it just gets weirder.
There's like another connection to some dark institution.
There's another connection to some dark individual.
There's another connection to Maxwell or Epstein and Trump.
So it's like, I can understand plausible deniability.
And I can also understand that in the world of the super elite, super wealthy, billionaire class, whatever, you know, you tend to run elbows with one another.
You tend to run in the same circles and go to the same events.
It's like a professional athlete or something.
It's like, gee, well, why are these professional athletes all the other?
Yeah, I was going to talk about how you saying earlier you're catching hate from like your professionals, like your counterpart, people who are supposed to be MAGA and the cold and all that.
Well, he better trade these QA non-recharge alright, because I have no intention to vote for gay bands.
I have no intention to trade on bio-doms for biomass bandage.
So he better turn this around people like me who I guess it's the MAGA base, I'm not a Republican, I will not vote for an incumbent.
Yeah, the well, we'll get our first idea of it in the midterms, I think.
Maybe even you might get a it's probably not reflective of what you might see in the midterms, but I do think a mom Donnie victory in New York will be a little reflective of where things are headed.
But no, you're not going to be alone in that boat, and all the MAGA pom-pom waivers are just trying to ignore this or act like it's not real.
And it's really strange that they could be so naive.
But I guess they're basically like rookies, so you expect rookies to have mistakes on the field.
That's what happens, Corey.
Thank you for the call.
Let's see.
How about Justin in California?
You're on the air.
Go ahead, Justin.
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Hey, so I'm under the impression that you think that everything is still in the files and they're just not releasing it?
Or do you believe that they actually did remove stuff and add stuff in?
Or do you just think that it's all still Epstein and his clients and his videos and stuff?
And whatever Epstein was doing under the table, what we believe was work for intelligence agencies and foreign governments and the U.S. government too, that is not in any file.
The DOJ cannot go grab that.
The CIA might have information on that.
But if there's some sort of Epstein blackmail trove or whatever else, the videos he was recording, no, you're never going to see that.
It's likely not even in the United States, and it's likely not in any official capacity with any government either.
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