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Big Beautiful Bill Could Be Tabled Until After July 4th If House Republicans Can’t Reach an Agreement
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owen shroyer
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Wednesday, July 2nd, 2025.
This is the Infowars Warroom.
I'm your host, Owen Schroyer, with you for the next three hours, the fastest three hours on the internet.
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Well, most of the action in D.C. today is revolving around this big, beautiful bill getting passed before the 4th of July.
There are different reports coming out of Washington, D.C., as far as whether Mike Johnson has the votes or not.
They are apparently going to be doing a mock vote any moment now, if they haven't already, before they take it to the floor, just to save themselves some time.
My guess is there's going to be things that come out in the next 24 hours that are going to be demanded to be removed, one of which might be Medicaid still covering transgender surgeries.
Now, the Republicans may decide to just balk on that, just say, whatever, just leave it in there.
Let's get the bill passed.
Or they could hold out on that and some other issues.
So, you know, it's unfortunate because it's politics as usual.
And I understand why dealing with the reconciliation bill, Trump is trying to do all of this stuff and get it passed.
But then you also have to understand that this is the process and why Congress and certain members of Congress are saying not so fast.
And of course, I do preach against political purism, but yet this is still the process.
And I really don't think it's too much to ask, as an American, to say, let's get these bill passed.
Let's get bills passed.
You can't do a single issue bill and a reconciliation bill.
That's what we really need is just single issue bills.
But then you'll have Senate parliamentarians rig the rules, and so you can't even get that done.
But I don't think it's too much for Americans to ask to just say, hey, you know what?
Just get rid of some of this garbage.
We're okay with military spending.
We're okay with what needs to be done for mass deportations.
We're okay with some of this other just stuff that's always going to be in there to fund other government infrastructure, tax cuts, you name it.
But it's like, you just, we can't cut trans surgery.
We can't cut Planned Parenthood.
They got the AI out of there, which may or may not end up being a good or bad thing.
Ironically enough, the one thing they did get out really could have gone either way.
So we've got some reports from Trump and then Massey.
And who knows, they may come out within the next hour or so and say, we have the votes.
We're taking it to the floor tonight.
If you don't hear that, that means they don't have the votes.
And they may try to push forward.
They all want to get this done before the 4th of July.
There's no doubt about that.
But if they can't come to a consensus, they're probably just going to have to table it.
And then they'll just blame Thomas Massey, use this to fuel Trump's tirade against Massey, which will fail either way.
And then it's just like, here are the American people yet again with the exact same issues, with the exact same questions, wondering why it's so hard to get policy, why it's so hard to get support, why it's so hard to get basic America first issues taken care of.
But we can do anything we want with foreign aid, no questions asked.
We can do anything we want with different wars and foreign entanglements overseas, no questions asked, but we can't even get a tax cut.
That's a fight.
That's a knockdown, drag out, bloody political warfare fight just to get a tax cut.
So we'll look at all that.
There's also a lot of other news.
Likely Diddy could walk before the end of the show.
And then just this USAID being shut down deserves a lot more attention.
This is one of the greatest things the Trump administration has done yet.
Well, we could certainly have multiple breaking news stories before we're off air.
Diddy could walk.
Yeah, that's right.
Diddy could walk before we're off air.
We'll probably have an idea as to whether or not this big, beautiful bill is going to pass tonight or maybe even tomorrow if they announce the results of this mock vote, which you know, the D.C. media is swarming like vultures waiting to get an answer on that.
So they'll be begging to find out as soon as they can what happens with this mock vote, and we'll be following that for you as well.
And then there's different reports about it's not like the Freedom Caucus moving in unison, but it will be members of the Freedom Caucus.
It will be Thomas Massey and others that could potentially halt this thing from getting passed.
And really, I'm kind of neutral on it.
I think Americans at this point are kind of just sick and tired of hearing about it, which is kind of the game in D.C. It's like a battle of futility until you just give up and let the swamp dominate you.
So part of me applauds Thomas Massey for doing it and halting this and continuing to highlight and shed light on the things that are in this bill that are just totally unnecessary or against the American people's interests.
Part of me applauds that.
And then another part of me is like, you know what?
Whatever.
We've been raped by our Congress and by our government for so long.
What's another thrust?
unidentified
You know, what's another thrust into us?
owen shroyer
Just get it done.
If it's as bad, because now it's like you got both sides of the aisle.
You got the left telling you, oh, everyone's going to die if they pass this bill.
They're reporting today because they shut down U.S. AID, which is probably the best thing that's been done, arguably the best thing that's been done yet by the Trump administration.
I mean, you can talk about peace deals and obviously stopping the bombs from blowing up and the missiles from going back and forth.
You can't really put any value over human life in that regard.
But when you look at it from an America-first standpoint, it's not really America's problem.
It shouldn't be our problem.
The USAID, that is our problem.
This has been our problem.
And they're shutting it down.
So they file these reports and they go on cable news and they tell you 14 million people are going to die.
14 million people are going to die because your money is no longer being taken out of your wallet and sent all around the world.
Now, these numbers are completely fabricated.
Might there be situations around the world where money that comes from our tax dollars is given to food aid and stuff like that that'll be cut off?
Yeah.
But what we've learned, thanks to Doge and really thanks to Marco Rubio and others that have been calling this out, most of these funds aren't actually aid.
And so USAID is a purposeful misconception.
They want you to think it's about aid when really it's all kinds of different special interests and policy interests and leftist agenda items.
It's not actual aid.
It's not actually paying for food.
That's maybe like 5%, 10% max of what it is.
But oh, the evil Trump administration.
The country's just $35 trillion in debt.
The average American doesn't even have $10,000 in savings for an emergency.
Not just the national debt, the average American's credit card debt higher than ever.
The average American can't afford a home, can't afford a car.
They pay 30 to 40% of their life in taxes.
So that's not the problem.
No, that's not the problem.
The problem is USAID that uses your money for special interests and liberal interests all around the planet that you have no idea about, couldn't care less about.
No, that's the story.
And 14 million people will die.
It's all a lie.
Just like Elizabeth Warren claiming 10 million Americans are going to lose their health care with the bill.
Total lie.
In fact, it'll still continue to, they're trying to work around it.
Really, it's going to fall on Trump's shoulders to stop the illegal aliens from getting health care funded by the U.S. taxpayer because they've discovered that most of that is being funded at the state level and not the federal level now that Trump has taken over.
So they've just shifted it all to the state level.
So if Trump really wants to shut that down, he'd have to stop the federal funding to states like California, Illinois, New York, you name it.
Trump is not that cold-blooded.
The Democrats should really be thanking Donald Trump because he could totally crush them if he wanted to.
He could totally crush California, Illinois, and New York if he wanted to.
He could pull all the federal funding and those states would collapse.
He doesn't want to actually do that.
So he's unlikely to do that.
But it's just the same lies.
No, America.
No, no, no, no, no.
You have to pay for illegal aliens' health care.
Sure, the average American might not even be able to afford their own emergency medical bill.
The average American might be able barely even be able to afford their own health care.
But you need to keep working 50 hours a week, getting taxed at 30% when it's all said and done, so that somebody that just came across the border illegally can get whatever health care they need.
Sure, a lot of them are coming here just for the free stuff.
Sure, a lot of them come here that know they're sick just to see a doctor.
A lot of women come here that are pregnant just to have the baby born here.
But it's your duty to pay for that.
And if you don't, we're going to blame you for all the death.
Oh, but when they open up the border and the criminals come in here and rape and murder, nobody's to blame for that.
That just happens.
That just happens.
And then they tell you, illegal aliens commit crimes at a lower rate than American citizens.
Oh, that's your defense.
No, I think we're probably going to hear about the transgender surgeries.
They might bring up this other gambling issue of it.
Trump's big beautiful bill could kill professional gambling.
Look, I don't promote gambling.
I promote freedom.
And you know what?
If I want to gamble, then I should be able to.
Now, gambling is illegal in Texas.
It's kind of like the marijuana issue.
Marijuana is still illegal in Texas.
Politically, I would say probably it would be good for Texas to legalize gambling and to legalize marijuana.
You tax marijuana.
You tax the gambling.
It would actually be good political policy.
Culturally, I don't really want Texas or Austin to turn into like some of these other pothead sanctuaries.
I don't want Austin or other parts of Texas to turn into some of the other gambling sanctuaries.
If I want to see that, I'll go to Vegas.
If I want to see that, I'll go to Denver.
I'll go to Oakland.
I'll go to Seattle.
I've been there.
I don't care about marijuana.
It's not a big deal to me.
Grows from the earth.
Shouldn't be illegal.
So what's the deal with killing professional gambling?
I can't believe that's Very popular with a lot of Trump's big donors.
So you're going to hear about some of these other issues in there.
And it's really just about taxing things out of existence.
It's a liberal play to tax gambling out of existence.
Just like they want to do with cars that are gas powered, just like they want to do with lawnmowers that are gas powered.
Just like they'd like to do with red meat, steak, you know, anything that they claim is harming the planet.
They just want to basically tax you out of affording it, which of course won't affect the rich people.
They'll still be able to afford it.
See how that works?
It's kind of like the same thing with defunding the police.
Well, who really needs the police?
It's poor people that live in dangerous neighborhoods.
The rich people that have gated communities and fences around their house and private security, they don't give it to the police or not.
It doesn't affect them.
But, oh, we need to defund the police because we're bleeding heart liberals and the police are bad and the police are racist.
And then the biggest victim of defunding the police are the poor people that live in the violent neighborhoods.
unidentified
But they feel good about themselves because they did the right thing.
owen shroyer
So Trump is coming after Massey, which tells me he's afraid Massey is going to halt this thing.
Trump says Massey is going to be history as Big Beautiful Bill jumps final hurdles to passage.
Well, I don't see Thomas Massey losing an election in his district in Kentucky.
I just don't see that happening.
No matter how much money AIPAC has poured into it, they failed.
No matter how much money Trump tries to pour into it, he'll fail.
But Trump did say this about the bill.
Nobody wants to talk about growth, which will be the primary reason that the Big Beautiful Bill will be one of the most successful pieces of legislation ever passed.
The growth has already begun at levels never seen before.
Trillions of dollars are now being invested into the United States more than ever before.
Likewise, hundreds of billions in tariffs are filling up the coffers of the Treasury.
The tariff money has already arrived and is setting new records.
We are growing our way out of the sleepy Joe Biden mess that he and the Democrats left us, and it is happening much faster than anyone thought possible.
Our country will make a fortune this year, more than any of our competitors, but only if the Big Beautiful Bill is passed.
As they say, Trump's been right about everything, and this is the easiest of them all to predict.
Republicans, don't let radical left Democrats push you around.
We've got all the cards, and we are going to use them.
Last year, America was a dead nation with no hope for the future.
Now it is the hottest nation in the world.
Make America great again.
So my guess is, well, it's not my guess.
It's just, it is what it is.
Trump needs the big beautiful bill to pass for his economic policies to really the thrusters to fire and for the rocket to lift off.
He needs it.
And there's probably other stuff behind the scenes, like some of the deals he cut with a lot of these investments that came in that are included in this big beautiful bill that he said, hey, make your investment here.
I'm going to get this done in a bill, and then it'll be advantageous for you.
And then if that doesn't work, there's going to be problems.
So really, it's up to, when you talk about leadership, John Thune and Speaker Mike Johnson to get this thing as pure as possible for the most purest of Republicans and conservatives in Congress that they're willing to pass it.
But Thune and Johnson are not the most effective leaders, as we've seen.
And so what do you expect with a 1,600-page bill that they don't even read until they're forced to read it the other night?
So it looks like we now, it's being reported that 10 Republicans, and I've got the names here, are going to halt this big, beautiful bill.
So I don't know if this is coming because the mock vote has already happened or if they've already told media.
Andy Biggs, Lauren Boebert, Andrew Clyde, Dunn in Florida, Andy Harris, Dan Muser, Andy Ogles, Scott Perry, Chip Roy, and Thomas Massey.
And look, these are the closest thing to conservatives that you have in the Republican Party.
And most of these names, it's the same names that halt this stuff whenever they find waste, fraud, and abuse or special interest items in these bills, and they get attacked for it when really they're doing the right thing.
Really, they're serving their role better than anybody else.
So it looks like now some of them have flipped.
They may take a vote tonight, but it is right on the verge.
It is right on the verge right now, a very thin margin about whether this bill can pass or not.
But you're going to find out it's going to have Planned Parenthood funding.
It's going to have transgender surgery funding.
And it's just like, why?
Why can't we cut this crap out?
There's not a single Democrat that's going to vote for this bill anyway.
So why do you need either of those things in this bill?
What Republicans are demanding trans surgeries and Planned Parenthood funding in this bill?
Somebody explained that one to me.
You don't need a Democrat vote.
You're not going to get a Democrat vote.
So this is where all the focus is in Washington, D.C. today.
But when it comes to USAID, this is a major victory.
This is such a great victory for America.
And maybe in the grand scheme of things, you see the numbers and you say, well, the numbers are minuscule, all things considered.
But it's about a direction.
It's about an obligation.
It's about an understanding.
This is how your tax dollars are used and abused.
This is why you pay 30 to 40% of your life in taxes to fund a bunch of nonsense in a country that you likely couldn't even find on a map.
And you know they're ticked off because they're telling you everyone's going to die now.
So that's how you know they're really, really upset.
The Doge State Department, following up with Marco Rubio, who declares the era of government-sanctioned inefficiency is over.
From now on, our foreign assistance programs will be accountable to the American taxpayer.
Doge State Department says this is a historic day for American foreign policy.
USAID viewed itself as serving the international humanitarian community, not the American people or taxpayers.
It's a failed model that resulted in waste, dependency, and the erosion of U.S. global influence.
It ends today.
America first foreign assistance will be rigorously calibrated to advance U.S. interest, save lives, invest in allies, and foster new trade partnerships.
It will counter China and herald a new era of U.S.-led peace, security, and prosperity.
So here they come.
Time magazine, and it's everywhere.
It's on Drudge.
Every corporate media website is telling you this.
The forecasted death toll of shuttering USAID.
You know, it's amazing how they pick and choose.
They pick and choose what they're going to highlight as policy being deadly.
Wide open borders, killing Americans, no comment.
I mean, do I even need to say abortion?
Which, of course, now the left is having their own intellectual crisis, logical crisis over abortion.
Oh, if a woman is pregnant and they're here in the country, that's a citizen now.
Oh, so that means if you abort that, that's a murder.
Well, I didn't say that.
No, that is what you said.
But what is the death toll?
USAID shutdown will kill 2.4 million every year.
Wow.
They think it will result in 14 million deaths by 2030.
Oh, I'm not so sure I'm convinced yet.
Maybe, let me guys, let me see.
CNN, what is CNN telling me?
Clip six.
boris sanchez
Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, is hailing the end of USAID, the nation's largest foreign aid agency, even as a new analysis finds that its closure could contribute to some 14 million deaths in the next five years.
unidentified
Wow.
owen shroyer
I'd love to hear this actually explained.
I can explain it.
But here's Barack Obama, George Bush, oh, slam Trump over USAID shutdown and global health fallout.
So what is the real message here?
The real message here is that you, an American, you an American that's in debt, you an American that has student loan debt, credit card debt, a mortgage, a car payment, maybe barely scraping by to pay the bills, who knows all the problems you got, still recovering from the Biden economy.
Higher grocery bills, higher energy bills, nation 35 trillion in debt.
No, you, the American taxpayer, you have an obligation to the world to feed it, to provide shelter for it, to provide water, doctors, health care, a ride, anything they need.
That's your obligation as a U.S. taxpayer.
That's what they're really saying.
Which, of course, is totally bogus.
When does it end?
No, it ends now.
Oh, if 14 million people are going to die all over the world because of this, well, then maybe some other countries can come through for them.
You know, if it's really that big of a humanitarian issue, and we already know this is going to happen and we know how to solve it, then maybe some other countries can step up and fill in that void that America has had to fill forever.
Maybe.
But it's the same issue that you always deal with when discussing these issues with the left that always want more taxes.
They don't want to pay more taxes.
They want you to pay more taxes.
You could ask every liberal that wants to raise your taxes, hey, you know, you can cut a check to the Treasury.
They will take your check.
Believe me.
Cut a check right now.
You can pay as much as you want.
You can send it direct to the U.S. Treasury and you can be the hero.
You can do that.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Oh, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
I think the only American I know, the only American I can think of that actually donates his money back to the government, his name is actually Donald J. Trump.
And I believe he has forwarded every single check for his presidential salary.
I believe he's forwarded every single check from his presidential salary into some other department in the U.S. government.
So I think Trump is the only one that is voluntarily doing that, ironically enough.
But you know, if all of these people are going to die and you really believe that, then you can go volunteer.
Nobody's stopping you.
You can be the better person you claim to be.
You claim to be so much better than fiscal conservatives.
You claim to be so much morally superior to the Trump administration that wants to cut this off, this waste, fraud, and abuse, then you can step in and you can show how you're the better person.
And you can cut a check to the U.S. Treasury and you can hop on a plane to any planet, to any country, wherever you want to go, where people are going to die because they can't reach into our wallets anymore.
You can voluntarily do that, but you never do.
Do you?
You never do.
You can go train and study and become a doctor and you can volunteer your time so people get free health care, but you never do.
You can open up your doors and let in as many illegal aliens as you want out of the goodness of your heart, whole families so they don't have to get separated, but you never do.
Well, actually, some have, to be fully honest, some liberals actually have.
It barely even shows up on the scale.
unidentified
So, oh boy.
owen shroyer
What was the one yesterday?
They had some fear-mongering story yesterday.
I can't even remember.
It's every damn day now.
By the way, the FBI is a complete disaster right now.
It's insane.
First, they were going to move to Maryland, and then that was going to have some huge budget issue, and it was going to be some other issues with just moving all the stuff over there.
So now the FBI is going to move into the former USAID building.
So who knows?
I thought we were going to shut the FBI down.
I remember FBI Director Cash Patel saying we're going to shut the FBI down.
I remember Deputy Director Dan Bongino saying we need to shut the whole thing down.
Now we're just debating which big building to move it to.
Hey, you know, while all this other noise is going on, the Make America Healthy Again movement being led by RFK Jr. is really making some massive strides, some of which we've already highlighted, like getting the toxic dyes and some of the other bad ingredients out of food products.
The FDA, there's about to be massive vaccine news.
Now, we're not anticipating the big press conference from RFK Jr. when it comes to the autism issue until August.
And if you recall, when Trump and RFK Jr. were sitting down and talking about this, I guess that was back in April or May in that big roundtable.
And RFK Jr. and some of his team said we're doing the first ever clinical studies to determine autism rates and hopefully figure out the unnatural cause of these things.
And I think in that press conference, he said in August is when they would do the follow-up press conference with their announcements.
But, you know, this is such a huge crime against America.
It's such a huge crime against humanity what they've done to us with these vaccines.
And the mRNA injection is maybe the worst of it.
I don't know.
Gardasil was pretty bad.
There were some others that were pretty bad.
I think we're about to find out some really nasty things about the Hep B. But the FDA just made this announcement at a huge press conference.
The video they posted was 16 minutes.
I'm not going to play the whole thing.
Today, the FDI provided important updates on the risk of myocarditis after receiving an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine, noting the risk is higher in young men.
Now, think about this.
We sat here and we talked to the inventor of mRNA, Dr. Malone.
We watched the man that invented the, what was it, guys?
I think it was the PCR test.
They called it the COVID test.
He got killed.
Carrie Mullis gets killed right before this whole thing started, who would have completely debunked the COVID test as being effective of determining whether you're sick with COVID or not.
He's gone.
Remember the PCR test?
You could test a bottle of Coke.
Oh, it's got COVID.
Go test a bird dropping.
unidentified
Oh, COVID.
owen shroyer
So the whole thing was a scam.
We sat here after they promoted the vaccines and watched young athletes drop left and right, the heart issues, everything else.
And they just sat here and they just lied and they said safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective.
And now the FDA puts out their report.
Oh, you mean it's exactly like the leaked slides from their own internal emails where they knew the vaccines were going to cause cancer and heart attacks and then they rushed them to market anyway using the Emergency Use Authorization Act.
And that's why they buried hydroxychloroquine and that's why they buried ivermectin because it was the only way they could get it to pass?
This is a crime against humanity.
People need to rot in jail for this.
Who knows how many Americans have died from these vaccines?
We may never know.
Didn't save anybody, though.
I'll tell you that.
Oh, and four years they told you safe and effective.
And Rand Paul is going to be sending a subpoena to Anthony Fauci.
What do you think the odds are that old Anthony Fauci finds a one-way ticket out of country?
I'm not sure anybody would want him, though.
So it gets me frustrated.
This is the stuff that Americans should all be united behind.
And it's impossible.
It seems impossible to unite Americans behind anything anymore.
But I mean, Americans should be outraged about what was done to us.
Should be outraged.
Joe Biden said it was going to be a winter of death if he didn't take your vaccines.
We covered some of the stories yesterday, the headlines.
If you don't take the COVID vaccine, get ready to plan your funeral.
And then it turns out they knew This mRNA injection was going to have negative side effects the entire time, and they rushed it to market, and they mandated it in many cases.
And then Joe Biden says, I defeated big pharma.
And he cuts them like a $600 billion check for the manufacturing of the COVID vaccines, which now nobody even wants.
Most of them have just expired.
Nobody even wanted them.
Such a bad product.
But see, that's what I'm saying.
That's an isolated issue.
The flu shots they give you are worthless.
When they inject a baby with hepatitis B, they're giving them autism.
These are outrageous crimes against our country.
These are outrageous crimes against humanity.
Big Pharma needs to suffer.
The doctors that promoted this, besides Anthony Fauci, all need to be called to testify, if for nothing less than a public humiliation ritual.
Oh, and it'll be, oh, it'll be a beatdown.
Because let me tell you, even all the Democrats that promoted this stuff and promoted the mandates, oh, they'll turn.
That's how bad of a deal this was.
They'll turn.
They're all going to turn on Fauci.
Do not be surprised.
All the same Democrats that were worshiping at the altar of Fauci, they will turn on Fauci for political purposes only.
They know how unpopular Fauci is from the left and the right.
And all these other doctors.
And so actually, this is why it's important for RFK Jr.
Now we're hearing they may or may not, originally they were going to pull big pharma ads from television.
And so you kind of see both sides of it as somebody like me that it's like, if the debate is more or less government, 98% of the time, I'm going less government.
But on the issue of big pharmaceutical ads on TV, well, I think we all saw what happened with that, didn't we?
Oh, look, it's the corporate news telling you to take a vaccine.
Maybe take two.
Maybe take three.
You might have to take four.
It's to save your life.
It's to save your grandma's life.
Oh, gee, huh?
Yeah.
This segment was presented by Pfizer.
unidentified
Oh, I get it.
owen shroyer
So it's like, I don't want the government involved in more stuff.
But after what we just witnessed, big pharma paid for, bought and paid for, sponsored news segments where they're telling you to take the big pharma product, the big pharma vaccine.
You know what?
Maybe I'll go ahead and turn my head the other way if the government decides to get involved and pull big pharmaceutical ads from TV.
What is worse?
A cigarette ad on TV or a big pharma ad on TV?
What is worse?
Cigarettes, smoking cigarettes, which I don't endorse, I don't like, but to each their own doesn't really bother me.
But cigarette smokers, that is purely voluntary.
I don't think you're going to go to a doctor and get prescribed a cigarette.
I don't think you're going to show up for school and they're going to ask for your cigarette smoking history.
So, no, it's actually worse, I would say, for Big Pharma.
No, the pressure needs to be put on Kennedy.
They have to pull Big Pharma ads from TV.
Really, in this time, because of what just happened with the COVID vaccines.
It just, it has to be done.
Oh, and I know, oh, you better believe it.
Any friends or allies or whoever in corporate media that can get RFK Jr. or somebody on the phone and say, yeah, hi.
Yeah, we made like a billion dollars in big pharma marketing in the last 10 years or so.
Can we not, we'd like to keep the money coming in here, you know?
But then that's how they control the news.
And that's how they can run a giant scam and make you afraid of the cold, make you afraid of the flu that your immune system could beat nine out of 10 times unless you have preexisting conditions.
But they put you in fear and they run the propaganda and they make you wear a mask.
And then they say the only way, the only way to escape it is to take the vaccine.
And by the way, this entire show is sponsored by the vaccine.
They made us all rich.
Now go line up.
unidentified
Go line up, American.
owen shroyer
You got to ban it.
So the FDA comes out.
Yep, turns out COVID injections.
Yeah, they're giving you heart attacks and Geon Bray and cancer.
Who knew?
You know, who knew?
But as bad as that is, the COVID vaccine rates are really unknown.
A lot of people faked it.
A lot of people got the fake cards.
A lot of doctors said, oh yeah, I'm giving you the vaccine and, you know, put it into a sink.
And I think they just made up a lot of the numbers because a lot of people just didn't take it.
But when it comes to these other vaccines, when it comes to like your Hep B vaccine, your Gardasil vaccine, I'm telling you, when they announce this, I still anticipate they're going to stay on their track of time here in August, and they're probably reviewing some other vaccines now besides just the Hep B, but the Hep B is one of the worst.
I mean, honestly, you start to wonder dealing with all of this stuff.
You just can't help it because the greatest science, in my opinion, the greatest science is your lived experience.
That's the greatest science.
What is proven in your life?
For example, if some health specialist that goes off the government standards, if they looked at my diet, which when you're in media, it's really tough when you're in media.
You have strange hours, you have long hours, it's a very frantic environment you're working in, you're moving around, sometimes traveling a lot.
That's why a lot of people in media get fat and out of shape because it's hard.
So I kind of just go with a really simple diet.
My diet basically consists of raw eggs, raw milk, and steak.
That's like probably 80% of my diet.
It's just raw eggs, raw milk, and steak.
So some state-sponsored doctor would say, I'm dead.
Some state-sponsored doctor would say, oh, you're dead.
Raw eggs, bad for you.
Raw milk, bad for you.
Too much steak, you're dead.
I'm healthier than I've ever been.
I'm healthier than most of my colleagues.
I mean, they basically told me, because they send you to a doctor in prison, they said the same thing.
And then they're like, you have a really unhealthy diet.
Oh, okay, says who?
The government?
The government that told me to get the vaccine.
So why am I telling you this?
They also said, oh, you need to get a hepatitis vaccine because I'm not a vaccine guy.
They go through all your history.
Oh, yeah, you need a hepatitis vaccine.
Well, why do I need a hepatitis vaccine?
Well, because, you know, in the federal prison, it's pretty much 100% of people get hepatitis.
And I'm just sitting there.
I'm like, is this like a struggle session here?
What is going on?
And you got to go with your gut.
And I'm like, yeah, you know what?
I'm going to pass.
So they offer you all these different vaccines.
They offer you pills too.
Tried to put me on some pill for cholesterol, tried to give me a hepatitis vaccine.
I'm just sitting there like, what?
Send me back to my cell.
Thank you.
Didn't get hepatitis.
Didn't get hepatitis.
Oh, it's guaranteed 100% people come to federal prisons get hepatitis.
Okay, I'm going to take the shot.
Oh, I mean, I'm not going to take the shot.
I'm going to take the shot.
I'm not going to get hepatitis.
Oh, didn't get hepatitis.
So now you're going to find out the hepatitis vaccine to newborn children is not only completely unnecessary, it is harmful.
unidentified
And they mandate it.
owen shroyer
They mandate it for you to get into some school systems.
They mandate it for you to work some jobs.
You have a kid in a hospital.
You know, I'm of the age now, a lot of friends, having kids.
And I always tell them, I'm like, hey, you know, you got to make your own decisions and whatever resources you have, but avoid a hospital at all costs if you can, because most of these hospitals, the struggle session and the power trip and the pressure they're going to put on you to put 100 different shots in your kid, it's, do you really want to fight that?
So I say, if you can't, find a birthing center and see how they feel about this stuff and just avoid that whole headache.
You don't want to go through it when you're having a kid.
So imagine the diabolical nature.
You've got your newborn baby there.
Maybe the greatest experience you're ever going to have in your life.
Everything changes in that moment.
And then here comes a doctor to tell you, you got to hit him with a shot.
And it's the public pressure and it's the fear tactics.
unidentified
You got to hit him with the shot.
owen shroyer
And then a month later, that baby has autism.
And a month later, that baby has another health problem.
And you're about to find out, folks, it is so bad.
It is so bad.
And there's no way they didn't know it was going on.
And in fact, you're not only going to find out how bad it was, you're going to find out that they knew the whole time.
You're going to find out they knew the whole time.
And that's why it gets so frustrating.
Here I am bickering over, should we fund transgender surgery with Medicaid in the big, beautiful bill?
Should I fund chopping a woman's breasts off?
What?
Should I fund chopping a man's genitals off?
This is what we're debating.
Meanwhile, another kid is probably going to get hit with a vaccine with one in 10 chance they're going to be mentally ill afterwards.
One in 10.
But let's, you know, let's bicker about men competing in women's sports.
And hey, congratulations to all the girls out there.
Congratulations to Riley Gaines.
They come out now and they say, hey, we're sorry.
We're sorry.
Yeah, you had to compete against a man.
Wow, no kidding.
Thank you.
What gave it away?
Was it the penis?
I mean, what was the revelation here?
You just figured out that you were making women compete against men.
I don't know what gave it away.
Was it the penis, though?
It could have been the penis.
So we're doing a victory lap.
Hey, hey, that's great.
Great for women's sports.
Thank God we're getting back on the right track.
But it's just like we get distracted with all this fluff.
We get distracted with all this window dressing.
And they're still shooting up babies with poison.
They're still trying to promote killing your baby before it's even born.
And it's like, in the grand scheme of things, what is the biggest crime against humanity?
That they let some dude swim against girls and wave its dingling around afterwards?
Or the fact they're poisoning kids right after they're born?
It's like, we got to start to prioritize some of these things.
But no, you're going to find out.
You're going to find out from RFK Jr. and his team very soon.
All right.
Let's go to Christy Noam here.
See, and this is the Democrat Party, Democrat Party terrorism.
So I don't know what you do about this.
It really is tough if you're President Trump because you don't want to go there, even though you know what's going on.
It's like you know the Democrat Party is a criminal organization.
You know the Democrat Party is a terrorist organization.
And that's why you have a 700% increase in assaults against ICE agents.
So it's like, what do you do?
Do you declare the Democrat Party a terrorist organization, a criminal organization, and move forward with whatever needs to be done?
Or do you avoid that because of the potential repercussions, ramifications?
But here's Christy Noam reporting on that Clip 7.
kristi noem
I'm so thrilled that Pam is willing to be proactive and go after those individuals that would perpetuate this kind of activity against our law enforcement officers.
These ICE agents, these law enforcement officers, Border Patrol agents that get up every single day and are working to get these dangerous criminals off of our streets are heroes.
They are absolute heroes.
And to hear that the amount of violence that's coming up against them, a 700% increase in just the last several months against them and their families, they're not just going after them.
They're also doxing their families and threatening their children.
And these individuals just love America and believe that the law should apply to everybody.
They're doing their jobs that Joe Biden never let them do, and they're protecting their own communities.
Remember that many of these law enforcement officers live in these communities.
Their children go to those schools.
They go to church there.
These are their neighbors they're trying to protect.
And to have someone like CNN openly describing how to use technology to reveal the activities and the operations that these law enforcement folks are trying to conduct, it's shameful and it could be prosecutable.
So I'm glad that Pam is looking into it.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I mean, that's tough because we all know what's going on.
Everybody knows why ICE agents are being assaulted.
They have an app tracking where they're at, which, I mean, that's hard to make illegal.
There's apps like that for everything when it comes to government movements.
So, you know, what do you do about that?
You got the corporate news.
Oh, they're just reporting on it.
I don't know what you do about that.
You've got the Democrat Party promoting all of this.
It's part of their policy at this point to attack ICE agents.
So it's like, you know what's causing it, but that doesn't mean it's an easy solution.
Really, though, I think that you have to go after the funders and the organizers, which, boy, that thing flatlined quick, didn't it?
Yeah.
unidentified
Pam Bondi, man.
owen shroyer
You better watch out.
You better watch out.
Yeah, what happened to all of the funders and organizers?
Because that's really the easiest way to go about this.
Find the funders, find the organizers.
And then really, you'd probably need to have hundreds of arrests with the actual criminals on the streets.
And I think that that's how you can really put this to bed without having to do anything borderline, you know, authoritarian, dealing with the media, dealing with the politicians.
But hey, you know what happens when you send a criminal referral to Pam Bondi's desk.
Everybody knows what happens now.
Nothing.
Nothing happens.
Unless, unless you make an anti-Semitic cup of coffee, then she's coming for you.
You're done.
She will shut you down.
Attack some ice agents in the streets, organize it, fundraise it.
You better watch out.
But you make an anti-Semitic cup of coffee.
Pam Bonnie sent in a team.
She's going to send a SWAT team.
She might come herself.
She'll bring a camera crew with her, too.
She'll make sure Fox News gets the exclusive.
Christy Noam claims Cannibal started to eat himself on ICE deportation flight.
You guys want to guess?
I'm saying this guy's probably from Haiti.
They're eating the cats.
They're eating the dogs.
Yeah.
A cannibal.
I can't.
Do you think, are we going to get a showdown between a Gator and I, you know, I don't know.
You could have a Gator whisperer in there.
Gators form a little bridge for him.
Now, we all assume these Gators, if we're going to keep them starving, we all assume these Gators are going to start chomping them up.
What if these Gators decide, hey, you could have some liberal Gators in there?
I think I saw one with a little rainbow wig on.
What if they decide to build a bridge?
You never really know.
I wonder if the cannibal will be in that facility.
I think the cannibal probably needs to be put somewhere else.
I think it would be probably prudential to do that.
To just put him somewhere else.
All right.
We're about to close out the first hour.
We got a short break, short segment coming up.
And then at five after, Pastor Greg Locke is going to be joining me on the show.
You probably saw him earlier on the Alex Jones show.
He's going to be joining me in studio next as well.
And then we still have a lot of other stuff going on here.
Now there's competing super PACs.
So Musk's PAC, the America PAC, now Trump is, I think it's Trump, applying the pressure to this other guy to make a PAC called the fully support Donald Trump PAC is what it's called.
So that's going to be an interesting development.
I would just tell you, just from a fiscal responsibility standpoint, any money you put in to an election against Thomas Massey will be wasted.
You will waste tens of millions of dollars.
Don't do it.
There are much better ways to spend that money.
There are Democrats that are weak and feeble that we can take out, like Jasmine Crockett.
Fund Shoulden Daniels against Jasmine Crockett.
Don't waste your money trying to get rid of Thomas Massey.
Try to flip some seats.
That's the better use.
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Pastor Greg Locke coming up in 90 seconds.
All right, I've got limited time with Pastor Locke here, which by the way, you broke this news to me, and I think they did the entire Infowars audience how your house got shot up.
That's totally insane.
So we may have time to deal with that.
Maybe not today.
Here's kind of my takeaway, and I'd like to get your response to this.
One person I talk to a lot about this is my dad.
And he really enjoyed your segment earlier today.
He was messaging me about how much I can learn from you.
And I was just being stubborn about it.
What I think is happening here, and I think last night there was a debate between Denestra Souza and Nick Fuentes.
What I think is happening here is that we have generational lines that we're running into on the right.
And we have younger generation conservatives, older generation conservatives, and our belief system, our experience system is just totally different.
And it results in us looking at different policy issues.
So when I hear the Israel debate that's going on, here's my frustration.
And I think the younger generation's frustration is it's like, here we are talking about a foreign country again.
I grew up in a city where I was literally my first experience going downtown, homeless, degradation, decaying infrastructure, poverty, crime.
And I'm just like, I'm sick of hearing about a foreign country, whether it's Ukraine, whether it's Israel.
And then it doesn't help when we hear things like, oh, it's your biblical duty to support Israel.
So I think that, you know, from the younger generation's perspective, do you think that you can even change our minds?
I mean, I'll tell you, I don't think you can.
pastor greg locke
Right.
I don't know if it's all about changing your minds, but as you know, the media has so lied.
People don't understand what really is going on in Israel, Gaza, with the, you know, the Houthis, whatever.
They've been so lied to, and TikTok has done such a good or poor job, however you want to look at it, of propagating a false narrative that the gap is almost too big to bridge at this point.
It's a change.
owen shroyer
What huge is the false narrative?
pastor greg locke
Well, I mean, obviously, the number of people, first of all, that live in Gaza has been skewed.
We get those numbers from Hamas.
owen shroyer
So you think it's less than a million?
pastor greg locke
Well, it's 1.5 million, but they say 2.2 million.
But, you know, the more people they say they have, then obviously the more money they get from other governments and from the UN and things like that.
And then all the death tolls are strictly coming from Hamas.
Listen, when the wolf gets to tell the story, the sheep and the shepherd are always the bad guys.
owen shroyer
How many do you think have died?
Because the high number is 100,000, the low number is 50,000.
pastor greg locke
Well, the low number is actually about 40,000.
If it's been 50,000, look, I'm against any civilian, any child, any innocent person that gets caught in the crosshairs.
What people don't recognize is Israel sends out leaflets, flyers, by the tens of thousands for several days saying, this is where we're going to bomb.
This is how long it's going to happen.
Please get out of these areas.
And people don't understand that Hamas are using these people as shields.
They will not let them out.
They are slaves to the government, basically, that they have enacted, that they have voted in.
And Israel's like, look, they're the only ones that are really feeding them.
It was a beautiful moment.
Now, it gave them a black eye, but it was a beautiful moment when Israel pulled back the aid.
They didn't do that to starve people.
There's no starvation going on in Gaza.
They did that to prove that Hamas has millions of pounds of aid that's already there that they're not going to use to feed their own people.
And so it was this moment where the media spun it and said, oh, look, they're starving the Gazans.
But the Gazans began to realize, no, we have millions of pounds of food that our own people are not even using to feed us with.
And everybody's like, well, you know, Israel won't take them and they've got a border wall.
Egypt has one that's 10 times bigger than Israel.
owen shroyer
Well, I'd say the whole world has abandoned that entire region.
I don't think they're interested in Israel being Palestine at this point.
You know, here's my interpretation.
Here's what I hear.
And again, I don't like making any blanket statements, but just for the sake of this short conversation, I'll speak in generalities.
What I'm hearing is it sounds to me like you're getting a different transmission than what I'm getting.
I'm getting a transmission that not only are Gazans starving, they're getting shot when they go to get aid.
And there's videos that I see that prove that.
But I'm also getting in the transmission that Israel is basically just carpet bombing the whole thing because they don't want to send people in on the ground because they don't want to go into the tunnels and get blown up.
They don't want to risk the IDF's lives.
So they just figure, blow it all up, go and clear out the rubble.
And that's how they can deal with Hamas.
And so it just seems like we're getting totally different transmissions.
And so when I hear something like that, I'm like, that sounds like corporate media propaganda that has been fed to older generations for their entire lives versus the transmission I'm getting is from social media and videos.
And so it's like we're getting two totally different transmissions, right?
pastor greg locke
Yeah, well, we're definitely getting a lot of different transmissions from social media and all of that because people aren't actually there.
None of these people that are doing these videos and the ones where the people are, there's been so much just debunked, right?
There are people getting shot to get aid, but Hamas is shooting them.
You'd think with everybody there that has a camera, they would at least show us a bunch of videos of IDF people shooting civilians.
But what they're showing us is Hamas shooting civilians and then them saying this is the IDF.
owen shroyer
So they're shooting Hamas.
So we agree that somebody's killing people when they go to aid.
You think that's Hamas?
pastor greg locke
Oh, 100%.
I believe it's Hamas.
100%.
There's no doubt about it because I know too many people that are boots on the ground in Gaza right now and they're like, look, what is being said is a lie.
Now, I told the government of Israel when I sat down with a number of them, I said, look, you guys are losing the social media battle.
You're losing it because the young people do not believe it because what they see is all of this Hamas propaganda.
Hamas is a huge propagandist machine.
owen shroyer
You don't think Israel has more powerful propaganda than Hamas?
pastor greg locke
Oh, absolutely not.
don in california
Absolutely not.
pastor greg locke
No.
I don't think they have.
unidentified
I don't think they're putting the money into propaganda.
owen shroyer
I actually, I forgot about the Hamas-American super PAC that buys all of our topics.
pastor greg locke
It's not the Hamas American super PAC, but there's no doubt that the Islamic regime is putting more money into the propaganda of the videos than Israel.
Because Israel's not trying to fight from a social media standpoint.
They're trying to fight the ground game.
owen shroyer
I would, I think a lot of things get misinterpreted.
And, you know, I saw the comments, and I guess this is how you ended up coming in and doing the show with Alex today, too, when you were speaking at a conference about Candace and everything.
And I think that all these different dissenting voices kind of get lumped into one, whether it's Candace or Fuentes or even Alex at times or myself or others.
And I think there's a lot of different things here.
Like I don't want to involve with any of them.
Honestly, I'm sick of Israel.
I'm sick of the Palestinians.
I'm sick of all of them.
I got my own problems in my country.
I've grown up in a country where every metropolitan area is decaying.
I see our money just being shipped overseas without any resistance, but we can't even get a tax cut passed.
So it's like, this is where my frustration comes from.
I think this is where the younger generation frustration comes from.
But even if you want to get in to the Israel issue, you know, I think there's fundamental questions where even we may have a difference.
Like, who are the Jews?
pastor greg locke
Right.
Well, the Jews are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, 100%.
Me and Alex even talked about it.
People are like, well, you know, we just believe they're fake Jews.
It just doesn't work that way because here's one of the reasons the chasm between what we believe cannot be narrowed, especially in 30 minutes, because I'm going to come solely from a theological standpoint, and you're going to see it solely from a either media-infused or a political standpoint.
Which is fine, which I understand.
But I'm going to see things totally different because obviously I think we ought to be America first, but I also understand the fact that God says that America will be blessed if we do stand with to some great degree.
owen shroyer
You see, this is where I think we come into an issue because from my perspective, and I don't know you may disagree, but it seems to me on the right wing, especially with electing Donald Trump twice, we all agree that America is heading in the wrong direction.
I think we all agree that.
So how can we claim that we've been blessed for supporting Israel all these years when clearly America has suffered since we've been supporting the people?
pastor greg locke
America has suffered because we've had some lousy leadership, no doubt about that.
owen shroyer
But they all supported Israel.
pastor greg locke
As far as the politics.
owen shroyer
They all supported Israel, every single one of them.
pastor greg locke
They said they did.
owen shroyer
Name a president that didn't go and kiss the wailing wall.
pastor greg locke
Joe Biden was not very friendly towards the Jewish people.
He would have done everything he could.
owen shroyer
That wasn't the question.
pastor greg locke
And what's that?
owen shroyer
Name a president that didn't kiss the wailing wall.
pastor greg locke
Oh, I have no idea on who did or did not kiss the JFK.
JFK.
owen shroyer
Only one.
We all know what happened to him.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
owen shroyer
So I'm just saying there is no proof to say that us supporting Israel has blessed a country.
pastor greg locke
I don't believe that.
I think that's crazy.
We are the economic superpower of the world.
owen shroyer
Then why aren't my cities better than the cities in the Gulf nation states?
pastor greg locke
Because we have bad leadership.
That's not an issue.
owen shroyer
Because our leadership puts Israel first.
pastor greg locke
I don't believe that.
No, it's not true.
owen shroyer
But this is what you're arguing.
You're saying because we support Israel, it's blessed America.
But now you're saying America's not blessed because of our bad leadership that supports America.
pastor greg locke
Oh, America's blessed.
There's no way around that.
We're a superpower politically.
We're a superpower economically.
We're a superpower militarily.
But I'm telling you, we would be just like any other normal nation had we not stood and had an alliance with them for all of these years.
Look at all the other nations that have stood against Israel.
It hasn't voted very well for them.
We just know how the end looks.
And the end looks.
Every nation, Zachariah 12, 9 says, every nation that fights against Israel, the Bible says, it's very graphic, God will burn their eyes out.
God is going to bring every nation that fights Israel and that does not stand for the covenant of the Jewish people, not their government, right?
God's not in a covenant with Netanyahu and the government of Israel.
He's in a covenant with the people of Israel.
And we have a biblical justification to stand with them, not to broad stroke all the bad decisions and the wars and the things that come to the table, to stand with the people in general.
That's why we have a hard time generationally making the connection because they are going to look at it strictly political and I'm going to look at it strictly theological, which that's my worldview, because I believe my theology affects my politics.
owen shroyer
Well, I would say even if we wanted to get theological, I'm not so sure I'm convinced.
In fact, I would say I'm not convinced.
I would say the opposite that the current nation state that we call Israel, the current landmass that we call Israel has anything to do with the biblical Israel.
I think that that's all propaganda.
And I would guess if you did a DNA test, that the Palestinians would have more Semite blood than the modern day Israelis that are mostly Eastern European.
pastor greg locke
Well, again, I think that's going to be a lot of conjecture.
That's a pretty big leap because, like I told Alex, there's a number of theological and prophetic reasons why we still believe that the people that are in the land and moving back to the land are the people.
The ground's not going to prophetically grow back for fake Jews, right?
There has to be 12,000 from each one of the 12 tribes of Israel in Revelation chapter 18.
owen shroyer
I don't even know.
I mean, Israeli and Jew, I think, are two different things, I guess is what I would say.
pastor greg locke
Not necessarily.
I mean, there's obviously some people that could, you know, talk about being a Jew or an Israeli and not be, but Israel, the land, and Israel, the people, are the exact same as far as the Bible.
God has a covenant with that land because he has a covenant with those people.
And, you know, we had heard all this Palestinian, oppressive nonsense.
When you go there, what you'll find out is they bus and they pay for 180,000 Palestinians to come into Jerusalem, to come into Israeli areas and work, Judea, Samaria, what they would call the West Bank.
But those Jews are not allowed to go anywhere else.
Israel's paying for much of their upkeep, their food, their housing.
They're paying for their insurance in many ways.
Even in Gaza, when Hamas won't take care of the Gazans and they need some medical attention, guess who takes care of them?
Israel does.
No questions asked.
owen shroyer
Let me ask you about the government of Israel.
Do you think Netanyahu has been a good leader for Israel?
pastor greg locke
I think Netanyahu has been a good leader.
I think, obviously, he's made some poor decisions in the past, but I see him on the same vein as a Donald Trump.
People like him because he's been, and I think Trump has helped with this.
He's willing to say the hard things and make the hard decisions.
He at least understands the history of the Jewish people and the hardness that they've had to go through.
So, you know, I think anybody that's been in politics as long as he's been in power for 18, 19 years, there's going to be.
owen shroyer
Oh, yeah, longer, I think.
Well, actually, he's technically been the prime minister for 18 years, but it's been kind of on and off.
pastor greg locke
They're going to make some bad decisions.
They're going to get involved in some crazy stuff.
But I think by and large, especially in the last, let's say, 10 years, he's really withstood, I think, a lot that most politicians would have bent and bowed to.
He's really kept his morals as far as the compass of this is our land, these are our people, and come hell or high water, we're going to stand for it.
I've got to give him that much.
owen shroyer
Well, he's slipping in popularity in Israel, but perhaps that's maybe open for interpretation.
I see reports both ways.
I think he's afraid he's going to learn it.
pastor greg locke
I ask him when I'm there, and it really is both ways.
It's kind of a 50-40.
owen shroyer
Well, and this is the truth about Iran.
This is the truth about anywhere.
You know, the Western media, it all is propaganda, but they tend to try to put everybody into a box.
But I've met Iranians.
There's plenty of liberals in Iran.
There's a lot of liberals.
You'd be surprised, actually.
You're like, how could they even exist?
I'd be like, no, they come and study in America.
That's how I met them.
Same thing in Israel.
There's people that are all in for Netanyahu.
There's people that can't stand Netanyahu.
So really most of these countries, Russia, too, they all have a left and a right.
We don't really get this fair reporting in the West, which I think makes it harder to really understand these global issues.
Here's what I say.
And my stance politically is I want to completely decouple from the Middle East.
I think it's been a disaster for the American people, and that's what my concern is.
But tell me if you agree or disagree with this.
As you do care about Israel.
I believe in your heart of hearts you do.
I'll be honest, I really don't.
If you do care about Israel, wouldn't you agree that you need new leadership?
Because to me, I mean, would you disagree that the whole world has turned against Israel right now?
pastor greg locke
They are in the process of turning against Israel.
But again, prophetically, they have to.
God promises us in the Bible that that's going to happen, that all nations are eventually going to hate Israel.
So my question is, for the years, you know, how in the world is this ever going to transpire?
But now we see exactly how it's transpired.
They're being painted so evil and wicked and nefarious.
Now the world hates Israel.
But you look at that and you're like, okay, so we should hate them too.
I look at it and I'm like, you know what?
They're in the perfect spot for God to fulfill exactly what he said he was going to do.
owen shroyer
Well, I don't hate anybody.
What I see is Israel can get whatever they need from us without even a vote, but I can't even get a tax cut.
And I think that there's no doubt whether it's 40,000 or 400,000 Palestinians.
You know, people don't like what they've seen in Palestine.
I think that that's a fact.
And you might disagree, but the consensus now is that Israel stood down on October 7th and let the attack happen because Netanyahu wants to take the Gaza Strip.
So I think the world is turning against Israel not because of a painted picture.
I think it's because of the reality.
I think it's because of what they're seeing.
pastor greg locke
They're going to take the Gaza Strip because the Bible fulfills the fact that one day Gaza is going to be repopulated with nothing but Jews.
Again, you can't get around that fact.
owen shroyer
The Jews, though, but see, this is where you're going to get into a debate.
I bet you, I would bet you, if you did a DNA test for all the Palestinians and a DNA test for all the Israelis, the Palestinians have more actual genetic ties to that landmass than the Israelis who are mostly Eastern European.
pastor greg locke
And if we believe that, which I don't, then we're going to have to say, okay, then God doesn't know what he's doing and the people that are moving on.
owen shroyer
Oh, I think God knows what he's doing are foolish.
Here, let me give you a little anecdotal evidence here.
This is every prime minister of Israel.
First one, David Gurion, real name David Groon, born in Poland.
Next one, Mashi Sheret, real name, Mashi Shurtok, born in Ukraine.
Then Levi Eshkol, real name, Levi Shkolanik, born in Ukraine.
Next one, Yigol Alan, real name, Yigol Pikovich, born in the Ottoman Empire, Palestine.
Next one, Golda Meyer, real name, Golda Mabovich, born in Ukraine.
Next one, Yizhak Rabin, first one actually born in Jerusalem, or called Mandatory Palestine, but first one to be born in actual Jerusalem.
Next one, Manichin Begin, real name Mazy Chekslaw Begum, born in Ukraine.
So I can go on and on and on.
Almost every single one of them has a fake name, and nearly every single one of them is actually from Eastern Europe.
For the sake of the time here, I'm not going to go on.
Even Netanyahu's real name is Milakovsky.
Now, granted, he was born in Tel Aviv.
His name is Milakovsky.
So how do you explain that?
pastor greg locke
Well, I explain it simply by, number one, I don't know about their name changes, but what I do know is God says he's going to regather the Jewish people from every region and every nation on the planet.
And to me, they don't have to be born in Tel Aviv or in Jerusalem to be a prime minister of Israel.
God's bringing them back.
The biggest number of Jewish people that are moving back to Israel right now are from Moscow.
They're Russian Jews.
Straight north.
The Bible says they'll come from the north back to Jerusalem.
And so God's regathering them from the entirety of the world, even in the book of Acts.
owen shroyer
But half a million Jews have left Israel since October 7th.
pastor greg locke
Well, there's a lot more Jews coming in than there are coming out.
That much I know.
I spend 20 weeks a year there.
There's a lot of Jews that are moving back to the homeland.
Listen, there's liberal Jews.
There's leftist Jews.
I get it.
There's Jews.
owen shroyer
Oh, yeah.
They try to influence the Democratic Party.
pastor greg locke
I mean, there's people that would consider me more Jewish in my theological thinking than even the Jews themselves.
But it doesn't change the fact that God said I'm going to gather them from all the nations.
So even on the day of Pentecost, the Bible says there were 18 different nationalities, but all those nationalities were Jewish people.
They were Jewish people from various places on the earth.
And still to this day, they converge on Jerusalem during the major feast that they have.
owen shroyer
Would you support policy?
Because this is what I view this as inevitable.
But would you support policy that Israel or APAC, anybody connected to Israel, has to register as a foreign agent or that the United States, I believe, should cut all foreign aid, including Israel?
Would you support a policy like that?
Or do you think America should continue with the military and financial aid?
pastor greg locke
Absolutely.
I think so.
owen shroyer
Really?
pastor greg locke
And that's what we'll disagree.
But yeah, I absolutely believe they should militarily and financially support the nation of Israel.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I mean, I know a lot of people feel that way.
I think it's a generational thing.
pastor greg locke
And it could very well be.
Absolutely.
owen shroyer
I think it is.
And I mean, again, not to paint any general picture here, because there's diverse people in every age group.
But I think generally speaking, it is a generational thing.
And I think, too, when it comes to the rise in anti-Semitism, the different headlines that we see, I think it's because people take that personally.
I will tell you, I take that personally.
I take that personally that any American would feel loyalty to another country.
I will say that angers me.
pastor greg locke
Right.
Well, we are loyal to the truth, right?
We're loyal to the narrative of the Bible.
That's the only thing that keeps my loyalty in.
I don't broad stroke what they do and all of the things, but I do believe that we have a national responsibility to stand for the people of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, just simply because the Bible tells me I have to.
If I'm a Christian, I have to.
owen shroyer
The Bible doesn't tell you that your government and your country has to.
If you want to, go ahead.
It's a free country.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, well, I can't sway the governments one way or the other.
owen shroyer
You don't have to.
Israel already does.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, but I'm going to stand with the people, and I believe I need to live in a nation that stands with the people.
Listen, this much I can tell you.
If America ever made a statement that we will cut off Israel, have nothing to do with them, I promise you I'd move to Israel tomorrow.
owen shroyer
Really?
pastor greg locke
Absolutely.
owen shroyer
Well, you're going to get that opportunity.
pastor greg locke
I promise you.
owen shroyer
And I would say at this rate, all support for Israel, definitely in America, all support will be gone 10 to 20 years, 20 years max, 10 years minimum, I'd say.
pastor greg locke
Absolutely not.
owen shroyer
I'd say, oh, 100%.
In fact, I'd say maybe even by the 2028 presidential elections, coming out against Israel will now become popular.
pastor greg locke
Oh, well, that's going to be popular.
It's certainly cute to do that these days, but it's not going to happen in the finality of things in America, not anytime soon.
And I could show you in Revelation why it's not, but again, we can agree to disagree on that.
owen shroyer
Have you ever heard of the Schofield Bible?
unidentified
I have.
owen shroyer
What do you think of that?
pastor greg locke
Oh, I'd love to have that discussion for a couple of years.
owen shroyer
I'll tell you what, actually, I would love to do it, because I'm not a big theological guy.
I look at the Bible like a good movie.
Because when I was in prison, I read the Bible cover to cover.
And it was great.
And you learn a lot.
You remember a lot of the stuff.
I grew up in a Christian household, went to Christian schools.
So you remember a lot.
But, you know, it's kind of like when you go through it the way you do.
To me, it's like a good movie that you watch over and over.
And a good movie, like you've seen a movie 10 times.
And then the 11th time, you're like, oh, wow, I never noticed that before.
So I kind of view the Bible the same way.
I read it cover to cover once recently.
So I don't claim to be the expert in the Bible.
I'm an expert on political and current events.
That's my masterpiece.
Would you be willing to actually do a debate with another pastor that is more on the side that, just to put it as a statement, for lack of a better word, that is more against the fake Jews or issues?
pastor greg locke
Like Steven Andrews, Satan.
owen shroyer
That name has been brought up to me.
Or another one, Joel Webbon.
I don't know if you've heard of him.
He's another one that's kind of rising up on social media.
I love debate.
I just love it.
I love disagreement because it's what makes us stronger.
And I salute you.
I salute everybody.
If you're willing to come to the table and you are staunch and convicted in your beliefs, then I respect that.
Even if we disagree.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, we got to learn to disagree righteously in a good way.
So bring him on.
I'd be glad to because I know a lot about this Schofield situation.
owen shroyer
I would love to do that.
I'd be happy to do that.
I know that you got to run.
But before we go here, you know, it was, I can't believe this.
I never even heard about the guy coming to your house.
How is that?
How do I not know about that?
pastor greg locke
I don't know.
It was huge news all over the world.
It was this past October.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
pastor greg locke
It happened this past October.
It was this magic.
owen shroyer
And I mean, see, but that is God working.
You were telling the story earlier.
I mean, and we will, I mean, God is in charge of everything.
pastor greg locke
Yeah, absolutely.
owen shroyer
When you have a moment like that, I can't even imagine family.
pastor greg locke
Yeah.
owen shroyer
When you have a moment like that and God.
pastor greg locke
That's a revelation moment when you realize, okay, God is going to protect you no matter what you face.
It's life-changing.
There's no doubt about it.
We moved and it was a big deal.
We had to live in hotels for about a month and a half with all of our kids and a grandkid.
owen shroyer
Is this fallout because you were stood against COVID?
pastor greg locke
You know what?
We've had so much fallout really starting from the COVID.
It's hard to even know what it is at this point.
People burning Bibles, people coming against the house, people threatening our church.
It's just crazy.
We've been in eight lawsuits since COVID.
owen shroyer
I'm going to get the last lap.
I just can't help myself.
If you were a Jewish church leader or they were burning the Old Testament, it would have been a bigger story.
They would have been arrested.
But you're facing Christian discrimination.
All right, Pastor Greg Locke, a great sport, a great debater.
I think we're going to hear more from him, too.
I appreciate your time.
pastor greg locke
Thank you, Bufferin.
owen shroyer
Okay.
We've got this breaking news here.
It looks like Diddy has been denied bail, meaning he's going to stay in prison.
He's going to stay in jail for the time being, at least until sentencing.
Now, let me just...
Yeah, there you go.
So, you know, this is going to be interesting.
And before we get into the ins and outs of this, which is kind of mostly a distraction, because the real story isn't about Diddy, you know, pimping out his girlfriends or, you know, abusing them mentally, physically, whatever.
That's kind of a personal deal.
No, the real story is, just like the Epstein story, is why did they have all these videotapes compromising people?
Who are they blackmailing and why?
That's the real story.
But it's just like the Epstein thing where it's just like, oh, he was, you know, he was just a pedophile.
He was just the one doing all the bad things with Maxwell.
Nobody else.
And then, of course, Epstein dead in prison.
Jean-Luc Brunel, dead in prison.
The Epstein files, the Epstein case, the Epstein clients, just into the ether.
Nobody really knows.
Pam Bondi says they have all the tape, says they have all the files.
She's seen the videos.
So it's like, okay, you know, did he, what a bad guy, beats his girlfriend, all the other stuff, pimping him out.
It's like, who was he filming?
Why was he filming people?
Why did he have these freak offs?
What was going on there?
Was there a blackmail element and why?
Just the same questions with Epstein.
And it's like, you get him into the courtroom, and then it becomes a totally different story.
But he was found guilty.
There was two of the five charges.
I think the maximum time for it would be like 20 years.
They're not going to give him 20.
They might max him out at 10.
And then with good behavior and other stuff, they'll probably get it down to maybe five.
He'll get a year or more for time served.
Now, other lawyers believe that Maureen Comey intentionally put a little snag into this so that he could get out on appeal, which I don't think would surprise anybody.
But it's basically like, oh, you know, he just hired a hooker.
Oh, that's all it was.
He just hired a hooker.
He's just bringing hookers across date lines.
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
And Epstein was trafficking children and sex slaves to nobody.
So it's the same nonsense.
It's the same nonsense.
Oh, oh, diddy didn't kill himself?
Is that going to be the next thing?
Now, there have been others, and just for full spectrum coverage, and I don't normally bring this to the show because I only got three hours.
I have to decide what you want to hear and what you don't.
But throughout this trial and now post-verdict, other people in the music industry, lesser known people, producers and stuff like that, they've come out and they've said this is not going to be the end for Diddy.
There's going to be new allegations.
There's going to be new witnesses.
We'll see whether any of that comes of age or not.
But it's just like, oh, here's this giant buildup.
It's the same thing.
Oh, this giant buildup.
And then it's, oh, no, he just hired a hooker from a different state.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here.
But it's, you know, you look at all the other activity.
He's, he's, oh, no, he didn't burn Kid Cuddy's car.
He didn't blow it up.
Of course not.
He wasn't having the freak off parties and filming people and compromising them to control their record deals.
No.
None of that went on.
So he's going to remain in jail for now, at least until sentencing.
We'll see what happens then.
And then, of course, in appeals, lawyers believe that Maureen Comey left him an off-ramp to get out.
But all of that will be discovered in time.
But they're not going to, I don't think the judge is going to go easy here.
Denying the bail shows that the judge is not interested in taking it easy on Combs.
And, you know, it's kind of an interesting legal interpretation.
I mean, maybe we could even reach out to GoodLogic on this, who's been on before.
Maybe if he just wants to pop in for a minute, but you know, there's kind of like the color of law that you might say, or just kind of the color of the interpretation of the situation.
So it's like, well, from the judge's perspective, and you know, unfortunately, I've been through enough court, I know how this works too, because they did it to me.
And they use all of these other background things that aren't necessarily involved in the case.
And then it's up to your lawyers to argue whether or not these things should be considered in sentencing.
But, you know, a judge could sit here and say, well, okay, he's guilty of hiring a hooker, more or less, but, you know, there's some behavioral issues here.
There's some character issues here.
There's some other surrounding environmental issues here with, you know, Kid Cuddy's car blowing up and the drug dealing and the other accusations.
And the judge might just say, you know, you need to be behind bars for as long as possible.
unidentified
You're just, you're not good.
owen shroyer
You're not good.
And so sometimes that's how a judge will play it.
unidentified
It's what they did to me.
owen shroyer
And that's why I had to do months in prison because they said because of my speech that I was a bad, because I had bad speech, that I was bad.
So the judge said, no, you have to go to jail.
Now, I don't know now how many misdemeanors have spent time in a federal prison.
I believe at the time I was one of one.
I think after a couple other January 6th convictions, after mine, I think there might have been a couple other misdemeanors that served time.
But, you know, the prison system I was in, all the lawyers, all the experts, the people that worked in the prison, some for decades, they're like, there's never been a non-felon in a federal prison ever until you.
So it's like, well, yeah, why do you do that?
Well, because the judge, even though I have a lesser trespassing misdemeanor, I stepped on the wrong blade of grass, essentially.
Nobody goes to jail for that.
No, they put me in jail because the judge, according to the prosecutors, the judge said, well, Schroyer's speech is bad.
And so he's a bad guy.
He's a threat.
He has to go to jail.
Even though my charge was just stepping on the wrong blade of grass, nothing to do with speech, they paint this picture of my speech being dangerous.
And so the judge says, you're bad.
You need to be punished.
You need to go to jail.
So the judge could have the same interpretation of Diddy saying, you know, look at all the chaos and all the stuff around you that follows.
You're bad.
I'm going to put you in jail.
Even though it might have nothing to do with hiring a hooker.
And then you can argue, is that good or bad?
But this is what happens in court.
And it looks like this is where the judge is going.
Maybe I'll reach out to GoodLogic if he just wants to pop in, if he's free.
I know he's been covering this.
If he just wants to give some final thoughts on all this or what he thinks is coming next.
Pretty spot on, I think.
I think he even predicted actually exactly that he'd get two of five, if I recall last time he was on.
So hat tip to him.
All right.
Let's hit a couple other headlines here, though.
Trump ally launches new super PAC to counter Musk.
It's the fully support Donald Trump PAC, literally.
That's what it's called.
Oh, man.
You know, look, I don't doubt Donald Trump's political instincts at this point.
And I don't doubt that from his now years of experience in politics as the president, that he does everything for a reason.
And so I get that.
And I get that I'm not going to understand all of his reasoning right out of the gates.
And I know that part of his just general strategy, since he's been in business doing deals for decades, is to keep everyone off balance, everyone guessing, not knowing what he's going to do.
But I got to say, if this Trump-Musk thing is not all an act, if this Trump-Musk feud is not just all an act, like a WWE script where you're both people playing aside until they get to the ultimate close,
the ultimate finishing act, then I got to say, it seems to me like Musk is the only person that actually has Trump off balance.
Because I've never seen this before.
I've never seen Trump seemingly not in control of a situation, even when he doesn't appear to be in control.
He always seems to be in control when the dust settles.
I don't think I've ever seen Trump in a situation like this, except when dealing with Musk.
So now, and I think this is all at Trump's behest.
Have you ever heard of James Fishback?
Probably not, but this is the guy that I believe Donald Trump is pressuring to start this pack to counter Elon.
Now, that's just my belief.
I could be wrong.
I think this is probably Trump suggesting it, you know, elbowing him saying, hey, you know, start this pack.
And he's one of the leftovers at Doge.
But so now the fully support Trump pack is going to be launched just to counter Elon Musk's pact, which it's really just, I mean, good Lord.
Don't you wish you had money you could just throw away at politics?
I mean, that'd be fun.
I mean, good God, talk about wasted money, how much gets wasted on politics, which, okay, it drives the economy.
It gives people jobs.
So, okay, that's fine.
Spending money drives the economy.
But when you're talking about political expenditures, you usually want to be more prudent and wise about where you're spending your money.
And so I would just say, from just a strictly smart financial political expenditure standpoint, any money you spend trying to unseat Thomas Massey will be a complete waste.
And even if you don't like the way Massey holds up some of these votes on the Republican end, aren't you better off flipping a seat And trying to win a vote from a Democrat, wouldn't that be a better way to spend that money?
There are plenty of Democrats that you could unseat with the right political campaign.
I think a great example right now would be Jasmine Crockett.
Absolutely, you could flip Jasmine Crockett and get behind a really great candidate in Sheldon Daniels who knows the area, has direct ties to the area, great public speaker, gets the issues.
You would be much better off if you're going to spend $10 million on a race.
No, they're going to spend it to try to beat Massey and they're going to lose.
And then everyone's going to ignore the Jasmine Crockett race and they're going to figure, oh, we can't beat a Democrat seat.
You would be much better off spending $10 million to flip Jasmine Crockett's seat and get that vote from Shoulden Daniels than you would being trying to defeat Thomas Massey and you will lose.
But again, I see this and I'm like, it's so obvious.
There's no way Trump doesn't understand this.
It just doesn't make sense to me.
That's why part of me thinks there is some sort of an act here.
And by the way, Musk did give Trump credit for getting peace deals done, which is, you know, again, when you talk about the humanitarian issue, stopping the bombs, that's number one.
Stopping the unnecessary death, we can all agree, that's just number one from just a general human standpoint.
But from a political standpoint, getting rid of Massey is not the move.
It's just not.
But again, I see this and I'm like, it's almost like Trump, you want to get conspiratorial.
Because like I say, it's the only thing where I see Trump and I'm like, this is not the Trump in control of the thing like he normally is, as it appears right now.
Because really what Trump is doing is he's giving more political power.
He's actually giving away more of his political capital to Elon Musk and to Thomas Massey is what's actually happening here.
And that's what I'm saying.
unidentified
It's like Trump has to know that.
owen shroyer
He has to see that.
Why would he be doing this unless he's genuinely flummoxed by Massey and Musk right now, which is not characteristic for Trump to be flummoxed by anybody?
So it's like, unless he's genuinely flummoxed by then, why would he be handing Musk and Massey all this political capital?
Because that's exactly what he's doing.
Massey will get more donations than he's ever gotten.
Massey will be more popular than he's ever been.
Musk will be able to launch a third party if he wants.
And it's all going to be because Trump aiming his political capital at them is really, they're just going to absorb it.
But hey, fine with me.
I'm more politically aligned with Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey probably than anybody else in Congress.
unidentified
So go for it.
owen shroyer
I mean, hell, even Elon Musk, it seems like, is closer to a true conservative politically than anybody else.
Here's a victory for Trump.
This is crazy.
Paramount agrees to pay $16 million to settle Trump's lawsuit over 60 Minutes Kamala Harris interview.
So this is the one they doctored and edited.
And I'm seeing this, and I'm like, well, wait a second.
Now, Trump was seeking $20 billion in damages.
Okay.
The whole thing is crazy to me.
Like, even though it's obviously unethical, CBS isn't allowed to edit an interview.
They don't have editorial power over an interview, even if it is in a presidential election cycle.
unidentified
I mean, I'm a little, I'm like, wait a second.
owen shroyer
I'm against it.
It's unethical.
It's obvious what they were doing.
They were protecting Kamala Harris.
They were trying to rig an election by editing a thing, but it's like, do they not get the editorial say if they wanted to edit it?
Completely unethical, but illegal?
Okay.
So they sue for $20 billion.
CBS settles for $16.
Well, now I'm thinking, are they hiding something?
Was it worse?
Was it worse than we actually think?
And CBS doesn't want the real truth to come out.
And maybe Trump knows there's something much worse there.
And that's why he said $20 billion.
And he figured, hey, they don't want this to come out.
They don't want the true unethical nature of CBS 60 Minutes to come out.
They don't want the true unethical nature of their political coverage to come out.
So they'll cut me a check and get this thing over with.
And I'll just take some money for them and give them the middle finger.
Because that seems like why would Paramount, why would Paramount settle instead of going to court and saying, we have editorial control over our content, this has nothing to do with Donald Trump?
Seems like, I don't know, seems like a winnable deal to me.
But maybe there was something else.
Maybe there's something else that CBS doesn't want you to know.
Maybe there is some other things going on there at CBS's 60 Minutes that Paramount doesn't want people to know and see come out in court.
So they figure, hey, let's just cut this now.
unidentified
We don't want this to get any worse than it already is.
owen shroyer
I don't know.
That's where my mind goes dealing with that.
Listen to this.
I can't believe these Democrats, man.
It's really a sad existence.
So they're protesting, attacking ICE officers, blocking traffic.
Good Lord.
Like, do you want to be less popular?
Do you want people to even be more sick of you than they already are?
Go block traffic again.
Go block another Bridge.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Well, listen to this deal.
So now apparently the Democrats are planning on boycotting work, which is a bit hyperbolic because it doesn't appear any of you have jobs anyway.
So you're not going to show up for the protest?
I'm not sure exactly.
So listen to this.
They're doing a new social media trend.
They have a catchphrase for it and everything.
They're going to boycott work for a day to send you a message.
So listen to this in clip eight.
unidentified
What if millions of us stopped working, stopped spending, and stopped producing all at the same time?
There's a movement brewing.
It's called the People Sick Day.
And what it is is a three-day economic blackout.
owen shroyer
Oh, pause it, pause it, pause it, pause it.
I gotta, this is too, this is too funny.
Rewind it from the top.
Yeah, yeah, just take it from the top.
What if we decided not to work?
It seems like you already don't work.
So I don't, I don't, what is the difference here?
The people's sick day.
What are you in high school?
What is this, a senior skip day?
Did you guys have a senior skip day?
It is high school?
You guys are like in high school.
Grow up.
This is hilarious.
All right, I'm going to shut up.
I'll let it go.
unidentified
What if millions of us stopped working, stopped spending, and stopped producing all at the same time?
owen shroyer
I don't think you work, spend, or produce.
unidentified
It's called the People Sick Day.
And what it is, is a three-day economic blackout.
That means no work, no shopping, no production.
owen shroyer
Pause it, pause it, pause it, pause it.
Wait a second.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I just had a vision.
They're not going to go to work.
They're not going to go out and shop.
They're basically going to boycott.
They're going to stay home all day.
Hold on a second.
Do we know when the dates of this are?
This could be the greatest days in American history.
You're telling me liberals are going to voluntarily remove themselves from society and civilization for three days?
It could be the greatest three days in American history.
This sounds like a pipe dream.
The heavens are going to like open up and I'm going to start hearing angels sing and rays of sunlight are going to be beaming down on me and there won't be a smelly liberal anywhere.
This could be amazing.
I fully support this actually.
We're not going to support the economy.
You already don't.
We're not going to show up to work.
You already don't.
We're not going to produce it.
What do you produce?
This sounds incredible.
Liberals are going to voluntarily remove themselves from society for three days.
This could end up being the greatest thing ever, actually.
Go ahead.
unidentified
And just pause.
Three days where we remind the system that without us, nothing moves.
We're not giving out the dates until 48 hours before.
owen shroyer
Darn it.
Let's look at a 48 hour warning.
unidentified
Time to plan and have to stop you.
Because let's be honest, if they knew what we were planning, they'd shut it down before it even started.
This isn't a protest.
This is a strategic disruption to the speech that feeds off of our hard work and labor.
If you want to be a part of it, go to thepeoplesickday.com, join the Discord, and join the movement.
This is how we stand up against what is happening in our country.
We need to shut it down.
We need to shut it down.
So go to thepeople's sickday.com, sign up for the Discord, and you can get more information there.
That's cute.
I mean, hold on a second.
owen shroyer
What does she say there a second ago?
She says, we need to show the system that they can't, you know, suck off of our work or whatever again.
Did you guys hear that one?
We need to shut it down.
Hi, hello.
Hi, hello.
Trump supporter, conservative, small, small government, Republican here.
Yeah, we've been trying to shut it down for a long time, and you guys keep building it up.
Okay.
How ironic is this?
So we supported Doge to stop the government from taking your money and engaging in waste, fraud, and abuse, and you fought us on that.
We're the ones that are saying, shut down the government.
It'll be great.
And you're like, no, people will die.
And you fought us on it.
You're a conservative.
This is a right-wing protest.
You're against wasteful spending.
You want to stick it to the system.
Welcome to anti-establishment right-wing conservatism.
This is, I don't get it.
You do the protests.
We've actually tried to take political steps and measurements to accomplish this.
It's called Doge.
It's called cutting government spending.
And you fought it.
But now you're going to protest it by not going to work?
This is hilarious.
They're desperate, man.
They are just desperate.
They don't know what to do.
They don't know what to do.
And they're not even politically savvy enough.
You know, this is the beauty of it, the bailout of it.
They're not even politically savvy enough to even know where to gain ground at this point.
It's like a running back in football that just runs into the offensive line.
It's like the offensive line creates like a massive gap and the running back is supposed to run through it for a touchdown.
And instead, the running back just like plows into the center and just goes down.
That's what this is.
It's like, no, there's a hole there for you.
You could go onto the anti-war stance again.
You could lean into the Israel issue.
There's a hole you could run through right now.
And you're just going to run into the center and gain nothing.
So, wow.
That's going to be fun.
Three days without liberals.
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What the hell is going on in Antarctica?
Pilot alters flight path after an engine issue from Chile, lands in Antarctica without authorization, gets arrested.
This young man, it's an incredible story.
Listen to this in clip two.
So he started flying when he was a teenager.
He's now 19.
He flies around the world to raise money and awareness for cancer.
He had to land in Antarctica recently because of a plane issue.
ethan guo
Attempting to become better than ever to fly at all some continents solo.
But getting here hasn't been easy.
At 13, I began preparing for this by homeschooling and finishing high school early to focus fully on my mission.
At 15, with funding challenges, I worked different jobs to help pay for training and constantly search for sponsors.
Unfortunately, while preparing, my cousin was diagnosed with state 4 blood cancer.
Wanting the help, I shifted this mission to something more important.
So at 16, I completed my first solo flight.
At 17, I earned all my pilot's license and set a record for the fastest time to fly to all contiguous states.
Still, no insurance company wanted to cover my flight around the world.
So I flew across the Atlantic twice and finally got insurance.
But on the first day of my journey around the world, my picture failed, leaving me straight.
Over the next couple of months, I learned how to fix plate, volunteered at the local flight school, and began preparing for my second attempt.
But by the time everything was ready, winter had arrived, making it too dangerous to continue.
After a total of five years of preparation, failures, and overcoming challenges, I turned 18, ready to risk my life to finish where I've started.
I've taken off again, and I've now crossed the Atlantic, flown over Europe, and am about to reach my third continent, Africa.
But the journey is far from over.
In the next 120 days, I'll be flying 40,000 more miles, visiting 50 countries and landing at all seven continents in this 50-year-old play.
Along the way, I face extreme weather, mechanical challenges, vast oceans, and isolation.
All while stopping at hospitals, meeting with patients, and raising awareness and funds to fight against cancer.
But I can't do this alone.
unidentified
So follow along and share this mission as together we can create a story.
owen shroyer
Ethan Gwow.
Ethan Gwow.
I may be mispronouncing that.
19 years old.
And he was detained for landing in Antarctica.
What goes on in Antarctica?
mike in georgia
You ever wonder?
owen shroyer
I don't lose too much sleep over it, but I'll tell you, there's a part of my mind that thinks about Antarctica quite a bit.
So there's more news out.
I've seen a couple of stories the last couple of days, and I wouldn't be surprised if the White House, the Trump administration, the Pentagon is trying to keep it silent.
So I'm not, it's hard to tell what's really going on, but there's been multiple reports about new weapons support systems for Israel in the last couple of days.
But it seems like there's a real hush-hush on this.
And I think it's for obvious reasons.
It's not a very popular thing anymore.
But I think the unreported story beside whatever's going on with the continued military support is how depleted Israel's defense systems are and potentially how depleted America's own defense systems are.
Now, obviously, that's not something you want to say to the world, but I think that that's a real story, and some of it is starting to leak out.
The Pentagon halts weapons shipment to Ukraine amid concerns over U.S. stockpile.
The move was made to put America's interest first, a White House spokesman said, as U.S. munitions have been depleted in recent years.
So, yeah, this big, beautiful bill is going to massive military spending.
But I mean, it's just so sad, man.
We've just been just foreign policy disaster after foreign policy disaster, and it depletes our military.
It hollows out our military.
It spreads our military too thin.
And then you've got to pass another gigantic bill that inflates the budget and debt and deficit because of horrible foreign policy decisions.
But it's like, oh, you can't even talk about it.
You can't even learn from it.
Just keep doing it.
So Ukraine is no longer getting some of the things that were apparently promised is what they're saying.
Pentagon halting some promised munitions.
For Ukraine, the decision was driven by the Pentagon's policy chief, Eldridge Colby, made after review of Pentagon munitions stockpiles.
So, in other words, defending all these foreign countries have cost us our own defense.
And it goes on.
But don't worry, there'll be plenty more for Israel to the chagrin of Volodymyr Zelensky.
Pentagon's weapons pause to Ukraine could encourage and escalate Putin's war ambitions.
Oh, no kidding.
Yeah, the only thing that whatever ambitions Putin had, the only thing that was stopping it was the U.S. military support.
That's been the story since day one.
That's not breaking news, just like in Israel.
And these are just client states.
These are just vassal states of the United States laundering money, laundering weapons, funding, equipping proxy groups, using them to topple regimes and other special interests around the world.
Yeah, that's right.
The American taxpayer and the American military, we pay the price for that.
Israel used cell phone tracking data to target Iranian leaders.
Apparently, they were using WhatsApp.
Yeah, you got to give it up.
I mean, the Israelis spy and penetrate better than anybody.
And they are likely spying on everything you do.
And you better be careful, depending on how things go.
Maybe, you know, maybe you're getting spied on too for political purposes.
Who knows?
Maybe they turn that against us if things continue to go the wrong way.
No, not Israel.
They would never do that.
Not our greatest ally.
No, no.
How foolish of me.
How foolish of me.
Wyoming Rare Earth Mining Facility to be first to open in the United States in over 70 years.
How about that?
Formal general counsel for U.S. Trade Representative Stephen Vaughan discusses the potential U.S. trade deal.
The U.S. Secretary of Energy and other elected officials are preparing to travel to Wyoming for the opening of the first new coal mine in the state in more than five decades.
The ribbon cutting for the Brookmine Carbon or Rare Earth Project will be on July 11th.
National and state leaders are expected to speak at the event in Ranchester.
It will be the first new rare earth mine in the United States in more than 70 years and the first new coal mine in Wyoming in over 50 years.
This is more than a ribbon cutting.
It's a declaration of America's resolve to reclaim its leadership in critical minerals and energy independence.
Good news.
Drill, baby, drill.
Isn't that what they say?
Well, a communist is bad at managing finances.
Who would have figured?
Socialist Zoran Mamdani's government grocery plan built on $140 million math error.
Well, even this is inaccurate from the post-millennial.
The math error is not even, you're not even accounting for the fact you're about to lose so much commerce and you're about to lose so many rich people that you're not even going to have the tax money to fund the project anyway.
Isn't it amazing?
I'm not rooting for this for New York.
I'm not rooting for a communist to win an election.
I'm not.
But I will admit, I'm in the potential of that victory.
It's going to be interesting to watch what happens because it'll be sad for the people of New York, mostly for the people that voted for him, ironically enough.
The rich people won't be the ones that suffer.
It'll be the poor people.
But that's how it always goes in communist countries.
So I don't know.
Maybe the silver lining would be that you get to see it.
You get to see communism.
You get to watch the store shelves go empty.
You get to watch your local government go broke and then everything else that follows.
It's like, I'm not cheering for that.
But I live in reality, and that's a very likely potential that he wins.
And if he tries to enact this stuff, folks, you'll get a taste.
You'll get America will probably get its best true taste of communism that you've had to experience.
It'll be worse than anything you've seen yet.
It'll be worse.
unidentified
But oh, what do you know?
owen shroyer
His communist math isn't mathing, as Jasmine Crockett says.
Go figure.
It never does.
It never does.
They've never been very good at math.
It's kind of like what they do with these minimum wage proposals.
And they say, we have to make minimum wage $25, $30.
And then they enact it in parts of California.
And what happens?
Oh, the business is closed because they can't afford to pay employees.
It's a nice idea you had there.
Didn't go well, did it?
Seems to always be the case.
Seems to always be the case.
I don't know where this quote came from.
It's a brilliant quote.
It doesn't credit anybody.
I found it at an X account at Rothmas.
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather be equal in slavery than equal in freedom.
Boy, does that punch it right on the nose.
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather be equal in slavery than equal in or unequal in freedom.
Here, let me not butcher this.
Let me do it one more time here.
Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
But really, it's equal in freedom, actually.
I would actually edit that.
I think it's better to say equal in freedom.
Because when everybody's equal in freedom, your outcomes are always different.
They want to control outcomes.
That's slavery.
So they'd rather be equal in slavery than equal in freedom.
I actually think my version's better.
So I'm going to steal it and I'm going to.
So that's Alex de Tocqueville.
I think I'm smarter than de Tocqueville on this, guys.
I'm going to go full ego trip here.
Maybe you think I'm wrong.
But the point is that you have all these leftists, all these liberals that really believe we can make everything equal.
We can make everything fair.
So to do that, we have to get rid of your freedoms.
So what ends up happening is nobody's equal.
Everyone's a slave.
So instead of being equal in freedom, everybody has the freedom to do what they want.
You're just going to be equal in slavery.
You don't get any freedom.
You know, it's funny that story in Minnesota disappeared fast.
People keep asking me about it.
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris hold hands at Minnesota Representative Melissa Hortman's funeral.
Oh, and they're attacking Trump because he didn't go.
Trump ignores funeral service for victims of MAGA Madman.
You know, you get the feeling that maybe they're hiding something else, or maybe once Tim Wall's name got involved, they wanted to bury that story.
Because boy, oh, boy, they got rid of that thing fast, didn't they?
They sure did.
All right.
I want to open up the phone lines here for the remainder of the show.
We do have some other stuff to cover.
But unless there's some other breaking news about the big beautiful bill, I think we've gotten most of the relevant political news off the desk for the day.
So let's put the phone number on the screen right now, and we'll just get into some other odds and ends here.
877-789-2539.
I didn't give the crew proper warning for this, so I'm kind of just throwing it at them right now.
So give them a second to get the lines up if they're not.
877-789-2539.
Anything we've discussed today is fair game.
877-789-2539.
Let's do this while the crew gets the phone lines ready to go.
So Governor DeSantis, obviously meeting with President Trump this week, debuting the alligator Alcatraz.
I'd like to see maybe a couple alligators get interviewed, you know, maybe do some profiles on some of these alligators.
Let's hear their backstories, you know, find out what they're into, what their favorite meal is, you know, stuff like that.
Let's really, let's build these alligators up.
Well, then he revealed, this is in honor of America's upcoming 250th anniversary, a big day.
And they revealed this Thomas Jefferson statue, guys.
Let's see this in clip four.
There he is right there.
You know, I do still like Ron DeSantis.
I think he's saved his political career because he still has been a great governor of Florida.
He's worked well with President Trump.
So running against President Trump, I think it will end up not being a death sentence for him politically.
And, you know, he's really probably been the best governor.
I don't know.
I don't know if you could point to a better governor in America than Ron DeSantis.
I think he'll run.
He'll be one of the people coming up to run.
And you know what?
He'll be a good candidate.
He'll be a good candidate.
They've done a lot of great things in Florida.
Florida is now the most popular state in the country.
And I think all the other governors are chasing him or they've given up.
But, you know, in honor of this Thomas Jefferson statue, I figured, why not hit you with some Thomas Jefferson quotes?
So I went and I pulled some great Thomas Jefferson quotes that you may have never heard before for today's transmission in honor of this.
So here we go.
I got about 10 of them here for you.
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Boy, can I get an amen to that.
And that's why it's so frustrating to see Thomas Massey under attack because this is what he's trying to stop.
I don't want to fund transgender surgeries.
I don't want to fund foreign countries and foreign entanglements.
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Well, I think it's fair to say in this case, our government is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson.
A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government and what no just government should refuse or rest on inference.
Well, this government stomps all over our Bill of Rights every day.
So that's a problem.
I like that.
I don't know what Thomas Jefferson's voice sounds like, so I can't really do that, but that's cool.
The AI Thomas Jefferson talking about the Louisiana Purchase, one of the greatest things for America ever.
Thomas Jefferson, determined never to be idle.
No person will have occasion to complain of the want of time who never loses any.
It is wonderful how much may be done if we are always doing.
I love that.
That's not even political.
I love that.
I never understand people who are bored.
I never understand people who have extra time.
That's not to say you can't enjoy life or take time to go to a concert or a ballgame.
That's part of doing, is having the fun.
But yeah, being bored and remaining idle, Jefferson nailed that one.
Here we go.
Politics is such a torment that I advise everyone I love not to mix with it.
Didn't Donald Trump say that recently?
He was asked by a young guy said, oh, you're involved in politics now.
What advice would you give to young people that want to get involved in politics?
Trump said, don't.
Thomas Jefferson, enlighten the people generally, and tyranny And oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day.
Isn't that the purpose of InfoWars?
That's my driving cause.
Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day.
Thomas Jefferson.
It is an incumbent on every generation to pay its own debt as it goes.
We're looking at you, boomers.
A principle which, if acted on, would save one half the wars of the world.
We need to be listening to more Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson.
I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever.
Yeah.
You think about all the propaganda that led us into wars and the killing.
You think about all the abortion.
You think about all the abuse of the children and the vaccines.
I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that his justice cannot sleep forever.
That's why we have to be so committed to righting these wrongs and fixing this.
The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only objective of a good government.
Pretty solid stuff.
The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.
Well, we could translate that.
The man who watches nothing but corporate propaganda media is less educated than the man who watches nothing.
Here's another one similar, Thomas Jefferson.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.
Well said.
Thomas Jefferson.
So I figured with the revealing of that statue, why not go with some great Thomas Jefferson quotes that you probably never heard before?
All fantastic and some still very relatable.
In fact, one of the greatest of the founding fathers, one of the bright minds, Thomas Jefferson.
All right, before we take this last break, we'll take our first call of the day.
Let's go to Rusty in North Carolina.
Rusty, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
rusty in north carolina
Hey, what's going on, El?
Howdy.
unidentified
I've got three ideas for you that kind of tied to what you were talking about today.
rusty in north carolina
So first one, how much land do you think we're using?
I don't have the answer to this, but how much land do you think we're using in the heartland of the U.S. for corn and soy and all this other stuff that's being used for fuel and all this other nonsense?
It's probably a ton.
Let's move all of that to regenerative agriculture.
unidentified
So everyone's going to say that's impossible to do.
rusty in north carolina
I don't think anyone's ever really like tried to do it.
owen shroyer
I mean, first you'd have to find out if they even know what regenerative agriculture is.
It's actually imperative.
I would say regenerative agriculture is actually a necessity.
rusty in north carolina
100%.
But we're wasting, I mean, thousands of acres doing nothing with it except growing useless corn.
unidentified
It's killing that field anyway.
owen shroyer
Well, you do have to be a skilled farmer to master it.
And there's a lot of different elements like, you know, cows and other creatures that have to work the land with you.
So, I mean, it is a process.
rusty in north carolina
Oh, for sure.
But my thing is we got the Maha movement moving.
I would love for them to push that.
Like do tax credits, do tax incentives, whatever you have to do to get more people to do that.
Two other things real quick.
Maha tax credit.
Why not give a yearly tax credit or incentivize people to live healthy?
And for the people who aren't healthy, give them the incentive if they drop some sort of diagnosed illness that they have, some sort of chronic condition.
And then the last thing, you were talking about, I think you're talking about it, maybe Alex was talking about it earlier, but legalizing weed.
I think you were saying it.
Why not do it in Texas?
Just think of how many people, if you just allowed people to plant, how many people would plant and then think, oh, well, this was easy to do.
Why can't I grow my own tomatoes, potatoes, everything else?
owen shroyer
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
I mean, you can use hydroponics.
Well, you could use it for weed, but yeah, you can use it for food.
rusty in north carolina
100%.
And you can do, so like, why not sort of, I don't know, wedge, not wedge, but lead people towards growing because if you're thinking, well, I can grow my own wheat, then maybe I can grow other stuff for myself.
And I don't have to go to the grocery store.
Oh, my gosh, this food I'm cooking is so much better or the food I'm growing is so much better than the food I'm buying.
You know, like.
owen shroyer
I would like to see.
Let me try to respond.
Let me try to respond to all of that here before the break.
The only thing about the tax credits where I just kind of don't want there to be any tax credits like that because I just want to cut all the taxes.
I would only like to see a sales tax in this country.
So I would get rid of all tax credits because I'd basically get rid of all taxes except sales taxes.
But I like the idea.
The more incentive you can give to people to live healthy, the more incentive you can give to people to be farmers or get into agriculture, I do think it's good policy.
But I don't want any taxes anyway.
So that's where I would go.
What I said earlier when you're talking about the Texas thing, it was me.
I said, politically, yes, Texas should legalize gambling and legalize weed.
It would be huge for tourism.
It'd be a huge moneymaker when you're taxing these industries.
But I said culturally, you know, I don't want like a Vegas atmosphere in Texas.
I don't want like a Denver, Colorado weed atmosphere in Austin, Texas.
And I know that's what it would become.
So culturally, I don't want that in my city.
That's a personal preference.
But politically, absolutely legalize it, grow it, sell it.
And it'll be huge.
It'll be an economic boom for our state.
So I don't know if there's anything else, Rusty.
You got 60 seconds before the break.
rusty in north carolina
Yeah, no.
So 100% on the weed.
unidentified
Like, you only allow people to grow it.
rusty in north carolina
And if you want to, I think Virginia has a rule like that where you can grow it, but you can't sell it.
I don't think you would end up having the Vegas sort of vibe if that happened because I think in Austin you would.
owen shroyer
I don't think it would take over, you know, most of it, but in Austin for sure.
So that's a selfish thing.
I live in Austin.
I don't want to deal with it.
rusty in north carolina
Yeah, I mean, I don't think you legalize it to smoke in public.
unidentified
I think you just allow people to grow at home.
owen shroyer
I see.
Yeah, yeah, you could do that.
I don't know.
There's but then it kind of comes back to the fundamentalist issues.
It's like, I think, I don't know, everything, it depends on where you're at, but I think like drinking in public might be illegal in Austin.
But of course, you know, you walk around at a football game with a beer, nobody's going to stop you.
So, you know, it all kind of becomes what they're going to enforce and what they don't enforce.
But I mean, you go to some of these cities where it's legal now.
Like, I'm from St. Louis.
I left it when it was illegal.
I come back now.
It's legal.
And it's just like people smoking everywhere.
It's like, I don't want to deal with that.
So China has officially launched a humanoid robot soccer league.
They're claiming it's a massive success.
It appears more to be a disaster.
But I will say they did get one thing right, and that's the players flopping around all over the field and pretending like they're dying anytime they're touched, needing to get hauled off in a stretcher.
They did get that one right, but playing the actual sport, not so much.
Not so much.
You know, there's something about the 4th of July and baseball, something about it.
It's a great, great American tradition.
And it's a lot of fun for the kiddos.
And so, you know, I remember growing up, maybe the same way, going to baseball games.
And I saw this video.
I had my friend surprise me, take me to a ball game one time.
I saw this video in clip three.
These kids surprised their friend, took him to the baseball game, and then they were shouting at the outfielder to give him a ball for his birthday.
He gets the ball.
I mean, that's what it's all about right there.
If you don't like that, if you can't get a smile from that, then I don't know.
I don't know what's wrong with you.
Because that's just good old-fashioned American fun.
All right, let's go back to the phone lines here.
Let's go to Gustavo in North Carolina.
Gustavo, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
gustavo in north carolina
Yeah.
Hey, Owen.
Just wanted to, you know, pardon the expression here, but first off, that pastor that was on with Alex earlier today, the lunatic.
I'm just wondering when Alex's breath is going to stop smelling like Trump's crotom.
But, you know, the other day you expressed, and rightly so, very, very serious problems with the fact that nobody has been indicted for the multiple counts of war crimes, treason, sedition, and all those other things that have been occurring over the past five years.
You know, at that point, to ever hear Trump or anybody in his administration talk about law and justice makes me want to throw open my mouth.
And the rest of it to me is all a charade.
And of course, you know, supporting Zionist Israel and all the things that they're doing is complete ignorance and allegiance to the synagogue of Satan and this cult.
But, you know, that's the biggest thing to me.
I don't care what he does.
I don't care all the other crap and all the other BS.
And like you said, taxation is theft.
There should be no income tax, no property taxes, all the king's laws, commercial code.
And the fact that nobody's being indicted, nobody's being arrested, and all this stuff is trying to disappear and MAGA, MAGA, MAGA.
It's just done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
He's done.
It's all a charade.
owen shroyer
You know, let me respond to all of that because I think you're obviously not alone.
And a lot of the frustration that I express here is obviously not just me that feels this way.
And I forget the exact words I put it in yesterday.
You kind of echoed some of the sentiment here.
But let me kind of just respond to all of that and maybe even play both sides.
Because I want to remain hopeful.
And it's not like I'm putting all my eggs in the Trump basket.
And, you know, the people that have done that really have embarrassed themselves.
And so, you know, I've put all my eggs in the basket of truth.
I've put all my eggs in the basket of God.
I mean, that's where I go.
So I would say it like this, because you put it rightly.
When I see anybody, whether it's the FBI, the DOJ, anybody from the Trump administration, all this stuff, and they talk about the stolen elections and they talk about criminal referrals and all this stuff, yeah, it makes me sick because I don't like being lied to.
And it's just like getting kicked in the groin over and over again.
Eventually, I'm done being kicked in the groin.
So, yeah, obviously Trump is better than Biden or Harris.
I don't think anybody will deny that.
But you just, you know, it's like, how many times are you going to tell us that, oh, yeah, you think like us and you believe like us and then you don't deliver anything?
It's just like, okay, fine.
Well, you're over there now.
So I'm already ready for the future.
I'm moved on.
You'll have your success.
You'll live out your legend and then it's time to start looking into the future.
So I get that.
But I'll just say this.
I could see President Trump in the last, let's say, 180 days, 90 days of his administration going full scorched earth.
I could see that.
I could see him waiting to just start dropping hammers until he's about to leave for strategic reasons and political reasons.
And while we might not like that, I'm an impatient person.
I don't like that.
I could see Trump playing that game.
Let's say that's where my hope lies.
Let's put it like that.
Let's say that that's where my hope lies.
Like, there's this new report out today.
I think it was, was it the DOJ or somebody comes out?
It's like, oh, it's breaking news.
It's on Fox.
It's breaking news.
It turns out Obama and the FBI did illegally spy on Donald Trump and knew Russian collusion was fake.
It's like, wow.
Oh, my gosh.
What are you going to tell me next?
Hockey is played on ice.
Soccer balls are round.
The sun is hot.
Grass is green.
I mean, whoa.
So it's like this silly little game.
And again, my frustration is I thought we gained 30, 40 yards in this last eight, 10 years.
And it turns out maybe we gained five because people are going right back to the same propaganda that they used to eat up in 2015 and 16 that we beat.
But yeah, whenever I hear them talking about all this stuff and the deep state and the swamp and all the criminals in D.C. and then they don't do anything, I'm the same way.
It's just like, just gag.
It's like, I'm done.
Either do something or don't.
We're not going to sit here and put any faith in somebody that just doesn't deliver anything.
I like deliverance on promises, which politically Trump does.
But yeah, it's the same thing.
Operation Crossfire Hurricane was a crime.
Okay, who's getting arrested?
They stole the 2020 election.
Okay, who's getting arrested?
So it's like you can go on and on and down the list and it's just, you know, nobody ever gets arrested.
Yeah.
Oh, the CIA.
Obama's Trump-Russia collusion report was corrupt from the start, according to the CIA.
Wow.
Who knew?
It's like, what are you doing?
unidentified
So who's getting arrested?
owen shroyer
No one?
Okay.
So you're not doing anything.
Great.
rusty in north carolina
Oh, man.
owen shroyer
I forget all the other things that you brought up.
But I would just say this, too, and I've said it before.
You know, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino at the FBI, you know, their time at the FBI is eventually going to come to an end.
Bondi's obviously going to go to Fox, so that doesn't matter.
She'll get the job at Fox.
It won't matter what she does.
But Bongino and Patel, they are independent.
You know, they do their own media stuff.
They sell their own books.
They have their own shows.
How do they go back to their audience and claim to be anti-establishment?
How do they go back to their audience after writing the books and doing the shows about all the corruption and shutting down the FBI and the deep state arrests and everything else?
How do they go back to the audience after being at the FBI and doing nothing?
So that's why I give them as much leeway.
You know, I'll be frustrated at the lack of results, but I mean, they're playing with their own future.
They're playing with their own money.
They're gambling their own reputation.
So part of me says, okay, I respect that.
You do that.
You're going to be in charge of your own future.
But yeah, it's just, you just get the feeling that if we can't do it with this administration, can we even do it at all?
And I think that's where Musk is at too.
And you see some of the disenfranchisement that Musk is feeling.
And I think it's just the same thing.
It's like, hey, wait a second.
We just all talked about a stolen election.
What's being done about it?
We just all talked about all the waste, fraud, and abuse.
And Doge found all this stuff.
Where are the audits?
Where are the arrests?
Where are the people that were laundering the money getting arrested?
And, you know, it's just like, and Musk actually got there.
He was behind the curtain.
He saw all the stuff.
He saw how the sausage was made.
He's like, oh, wow.
And then it's like, get out of here.
We're not actually doing anything with that.
Oh, and by the way, we're going to threaten to deport you and now investigate you.
Like, what the?
So, but as I say, I just do political play-by-play here.
And, you know, we're seeing a rift.
We're seeing a split.
I described it as it's the hyper-speed reshaping of the political media.
It happens every two years.
It happens every four years with election cycles.
It's just hyper-speed now because you're really separating the people that are still stuck in like the Bush era propaganda, the 2015, 2016 propaganda that we thought we beat.
We thought we were over it.
And now it's like, nope, some people haven't moved on.
And then there's this other group of people that just, all they want is just pro-Trump all the time.
It's like if it's not pro-Trump, they don't want to hear it.
And I just do play-by-play.
That's what I do.
I just do political play-by-play.
I do current events, political news, play-by-play.
And that's what I do.
And it's like, if you're just, if you're not praising Trump 24-7 or you're not on this issue 24-7, then we don't want to hear it.
It's like, we already won the election.
We're supposed to be getting results now.
I mean, you want to hear something crazy?
And I've kind of alluded to this before, but it's really worse than ever now.
You want to hear something absolutely crazy?
I now get more value out of watching CNN than I do Fox News.
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Fox News is two issues all day long, and that's support Trump and everything he does no matter what, and support Israel and everything they do no matter what.
That's it.
That is it.
You will get nothing else out of Fox News.
I don't need to hear how great Trump is, okay?
I've already voted for him three times.
I supported him long before Fox News did.
Thank you very much.
I don't need to hear how Israel is from 10 different bimbos with fake blonde hair with a Star of David necklace on.
I don't need to hear it.
I get nothing.
Fox News is almost completely worthless to me now.
So now, because I just monitored all the news, usually I have talk radio on or a podcast on, but every once in a while I'll flip on the TV volume.
So now if I have a choice between flipping on the TV volume for CNN versus Fox, I actually flip on CNN now, because now CNN actually gives you some news.
So it's like they still do propaganda, they still do anti-American propaganda and anti-Trump propaganda, and they still lie through their teeth about a ton of stuff.
But like, they'll actually cover some news.
You might get some news on a Diddy trial.
You might get some news on a foreign issue.
Like, there's some news I can get at CNN.
There's just no news.
Fox News, the only value you'll get is if they're interviewing somebody like from the Trump administration or a politician or Trump himself.
That's the only value you'll get out of Fox News.
Everything else is just pro-Trump all the time.
He can do nothing wrong.
Pro-Israel all the time.
They can do nothing wrong.
So it's, I didn't have that one on my bingo card.
I'll tell you that.
I didn't have.
I'm now more willing to turn the volume up on CNN than Fox News on my 2025 volume bingo card.
But here we are.
All right, let's move on.
Let's go to Karen in Tennessee.
Karen, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Owen.
karen in tennessee
I just have a quick question.
You know, when last week, sometime you talked about that Kareem.
owen shroyer
Yeah, can you turn down your TV?
I'm getting interference.
karen in tennessee
We just did.
owen shroyer
Thank you.
Go ahead.
karen in tennessee
Anyway, since she couldn't get a job at the View, why don't you interview her about her new book?
owen shroyer
Yeah, you know what?
I like that idea.
Maybe we'll send out a request.
karen in tennessee
Would you?
Because that would top it.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
I could send out a request.
I'd probably have to go through third party because I do talk to people that talk to her.
I do talk to people that have her contact, actually.
Some leftists, some liberals and media.
So I don't know.
Maybe I could pull that one off.
karen in tennessee
That would be good.
owen shroyer
We'll give it a go, Karen.
And if it happens, we'll give you a shout out for the idea.
How about that?
karen in tennessee
Oh, I appreciate it.
owen shroyer
How about would you like a copy?
Would you like a copy of Corine Jean Pierre's book?
karen in tennessee
Yes.
owen shroyer
I know, because we all need something to start our fires in the winter.
Thank you so much for the call, Karen.
A good idea.
Okay, we'll see it.
Let's go to Mike and Georgia.
Mike, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
mike in georgia
All right, Owen.
Make this quick.
A little bit tired of your boomer bashing.
The boomers were the ones that fought the Cold War, not the ones that dropped bombs on nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
It's your generation, actually, that's causing all the problems with all the chaos in society.
So that's number one.
owen shroyer
You don't get to just move on from that.
unidentified
Give me an example.
mike in georgia
You talked about it today.
What about pride parades and transgender nonsense?
Is that boomers pushing that?
owen shroyer
Yes.
mike in georgia
It's boomers pushing that.
unidentified
Yeah.
mike in georgia
You're going to stand by that statement that the people are.
owen shroyer
Hold on a second.
Who do you think is funding all of this?
You think millennials are funding this?
mike in georgia
Who's funding it?
owen shroyer
Yeah.
mike in georgia
Boomers funding it.
owen shroyer
Oh, thank you.
Okay, so you're wrong on that.
All right.
Go ahead.
mike in georgia
You know what?
You should interview Kareem Jean-Pierre because you're starting to manipulate like she does.
owen shroyer
I manipulated you?
Is that your way of admitting you just got submitted by me?
mike in georgia
You just spun what I said.
Now, here's the other thing.
So you're complaining about Trump.
You're commenting on his military decisions that he made against Iran.
But yet during the election, I seem to remember vividly when evangelical Christians were saying they're not going to vote for him because of abortion.
You were like, well, you know, you got to pick, you got to take a stand on it.
You got to take the lesser of the two evils.
So to me, that translates into you're okay with the slaughter of American children, but not the slaughter of what you call the slaughter of Palestinian children, which is.
owen shroyer
All right.
Well, first of all, your logic doesn't add up, but it doesn't even matter because you're inaccurate in what you're reporting here.
I said Trump sent abortion back to the states.
He's not involved in the abortion issue.
He's removed the White House from the abortion issue.
So putting that on Trump is not a fair political argument because it's in the states' hands now.
So that was my argument then.
mike in georgia
The point is, no, the point was you were chastising Christian voters who were saying they weren't going to vote for Trump because of that reason.
owen shroyer
Yes, and I just gave you my logic.
So what are we doing here?
We're spinning in circles.
unidentified
Okay.
mike in georgia
Okay, let's move on to the next thing.
You were talking earlier about Thomas Jefferson, and your admiration for him is quite clear.
Do you know who the first president to get us involved in foreign entanglements was, specifically with Muslims?
owen shroyer
You're talking about the Barbary pirates now?
mike in georgia
That's right.
Did you read the letter that the Barbary, that the Tunisian king sent to Thomas Jefferson that says the Quran said that any country that does not bow to Muhammad is infidel and needs to be destroyed?
That was not the modern state of Israel.
That was 1800, 1798 America.
We were the ones that started this.
This is a war between cultures, not religions.
owen shroyer
Wait, wait, wait, wait, you just made a huge leap.
Okay.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
owen shroyer
Americans started what war?
He hung up.
Did he hang up or what happened?
I wish we had more calls like that.
That was a good call.
He was 0 for 2.
I don't know where the third point was going, but he was 0 for 2 on the scoreboard.
Let's go to Don in California next.
Don, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
don in california
How are you doing, Lynn?
owen shroyer
I'm good.
Thank you.
unidentified
Hello.
don in california
Hey, I wanted to touch base with you on the password that you had on.
Thank you for exposing that guy.
He exposed himself big time.
I mean, saying that you can tell he was gaslighting his whole entire argument because by default, no matter how much sense that you made, by default, he just kept going back to his scripture.
We're supposed to protect Israel, defend it, or whatever.
But then I go back to what you were saying.
You said not too long ago in one of your shows That if common sense cannot be applied universally, then it's propaganda.
And that's what that guy was all about.
It was like listening to a pro-Israel guys.
It didn't matter.
It doesn't matter the atrocities that Israel has committed in the name of God or in the name of not being anti-Semite or whatever.
They get a pass because...
owen shroyer
Let me address a couple of things, first of all.
I don't do the generational warfare blaming this age group or this age group, whatever, for issues.
I love boomers.
I love my dad.
We debate all the time.
I've worked for boomers most of my life.
And so I think they're good people.
I think they're great patriots.
I think it's more coming from a stance of we all agree that the older generation's leadership of America has failed us.
I mean, I think we all agree with that, you know?
So it's not like a generational warfare thing.
It's just, you know, you guys are clinging to power and it just we all are in agreement that things have gotten worse here.
So it's like maybe we should try something new type of a deal.
So it's not, it's not like an anti-boomer thing.
It's just you use these things to kind of frame different political debates.
But here, here's when it comes to either last night with Dinesh D'Souza or today with Pastor Locke, I think here's the issue.
And D'Souza kind of, you know, he kind of said this at the end of the debate when he was complimentary of Nick.
You know, they've never been forced to actually debate the issue.
They've never been forced to debate the issue.
And now that there's actual right-wingers and conservatives that are smart and have their own logic and their own reasoning and their own policy disagreements, now they're actually being forced to defend it against legitimate points and they've never been forced to.
Another example would be Ted Cruz with Tucker Carlson.
So they've never had any opposition to these beliefs until now.
And if you notice, because this is what happened last night with D'Souza, he did this twice, where he basically says, oh, Nick is a leftist or a Democrat.
So they're kind of stuck in this like, if you go against a right winger on any issue, then you're just a Democrat.
So they kind of use this now in the Israel debate and they say, oh, if you're against Israel, you're just a leftist.
You're just a Democrat.
You're just a liberal, because historically, that's been the only pushback.
But there is a very significant pushback on the right wing now.
It's mostly based off of America first politics.
But whether it's Ted Cruz, whether it's Dinesh D'Souza, whether it's Pastor Locke, and I respect all of them.
I like all of them.
I love political debate.
I love disagreeing.
I think it's very healthy.
I'm always into it.
And it's good when we can do it and break bread and shake hands.
It's necessary.
But you can tell they've never been forced to defend their stance before.
It's always just been, all we have to do is just have this stance.
Anybody that disagrees is a leftist, so it doesn't matter.
But now they're actually having to defend it against a burgeoning ideology, a fresh generation of conservatives and right-wingers, and they don't know how to defend it because they've never had to do it before.
So that's kind of how I chalk it up.
I thank you for the call.
All right.
We'll let Mike and Mike in Georgia is back.
He said he dropped his phone.
So we'll let you finish, Mike, but I'm short on time.
So go ahead.
unidentified
So go ahead.
owen shroyer
Well, you're just wasting time.
Are you going to talk or no?
unidentified
All right.
owen shroyer
Well, we gave you a chance.
I'm sorry.
But I can't waste any more time.
Let's go to Louise and Virginia.
Louise, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
louise in virginia
Hey, Ellen, you do a great job.
Thank you so much.
owen shroyer
Thank you.
louise in virginia
Hey, I wanted to suggest to counter the pastor who was on today, Scott Kesterston, who has a podcast called Bards FM.
He is excellent.
And another is Pastor Chuck Baldwin.
And I wanted to point out that back in the 1980s, before you were born, I read two books that really informed my view, which I think you basically would share based on all the shows I've seen you do about Israel and the Middle East.
One was by a biblical scholar and archaeologist named William Baker, the book Theft of a Nation, in which he used hermeneutics and apologetics to prove that the Israel of today is not the Israel of the Bible.
And the other book was The Zionist Connection by Dr. Alfred Lilenthahl, who was an anti-Zionist Jew.
And I knew both of these authors, and they're excellent books.
owen shroyer
Well, I appreciate that, Louise.
I'm out of time.
And again, let me just clarify.
I, you know, I enjoy debate when it comes from a respectful place because I think everybody, I think they're good people.
I think they mean well.
But it's why I don't, I don't really lean into the theological debate because you can't even win that debate, really.
You can't win that debate no matter what side you're on.
That's why I go into the political aspect of it because to me, you can't lose that debate.
And that's why when you try to argue the politics of our relationship with Israel or its influence over our policies, they have to go back to the Bible.
But then trying to convince them that they've been deceived by that, that's where you just lose them.
So we're out of time for today.
We'll do it all again tomorrow.
Great job by the crew.
Thanks to the audience.
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