Owen Shroyer argues Trump’s peace push clashes with Israel’s war agenda, framing U.S. intervention as a threat to MAGA priorities like tax cuts and deportations while alleging Iran’s regime-change rejection stems from strategic miscalculations. He ties pro-Israel figures—Lindsey Graham, Ben Shapiro—to defense lobby influence, mocks media narratives (e.g., COVID origins, 2020 election claims) as unverified yet accepts Israel’s nuclear justifications blindly. Alex Jones later chimes in, calling legal battles a "Death Star" fight against weaponized DOJ, urging $30/month subscriptions to fund resistance. The episode exposes perceived double standards in skepticism, where domestic conspiracies are scrutinized but Middle East conflicts remain unquestioned propaganda. [Automatically generated summary]
All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, June 19th, 2025.
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It's arguable now because we might be having more fun than a human being is allowed to have.
Of course, we would have a lot more fun if we could avoid another war.
Now, I've got more incoming here.
Push for a war with Iran.
Of course, the breaking news from the White House, from President Trump today, from Caroline Levitt.
Trump is still seeking peace negotiations.
Now, there's some mixed messages coming out of Iran, which is hard to believe, except when you do the measurement that both sides of this, Iran and Israel, both seem to be really wanting this war.
They both seem to really want it.
Now, I don't think Trump wants it.
And maybe he's the only person that can get us to avoid it.
There's some grumblings out of the EU to call for peace negotiations now as well.
But it seems to me like both sides just want war.
And there is a hatred that goes both ways there.
And I think Trump said it best, and he said the same thing about Russia and Ukraine.
He said the same thing about Iran and Israel.
And I think ultimately this is where Trump needs to land on the issue, which is we're going to give it our best shot.
We're going to try to negotiate peace.
We don't like to see the death and destruction.
But if we can't do it, and if they're not interested, then we're just going to get out.
We're going to get out of the process, and they can fight it out.
If that's what they want to do, Russia and Ukraine, if that's what they want to do, Israel and Iran, Have at it.
Have at it.
And if the two leaders of those countries that have been in power for multiple decades can't figure out peace, can't negotiate peace for multiple decades, then you know what?
That's your problem.
And unfortunately for the citizens of those countries, it's their problem as well.
So we'll have all the clips dealing with that.
Of course, all the propaganda that's being thrown at the American people.
To try to convince you what you should think and what wars you should support.
And it's really wild to witness it.
And I think more than anything, it's just this thing has hit, I guess pun fully intended, this thing has hit MAGA, this thing has hit the Trump administration like a hypersonic missile.
It was just like out of nowhere, this thing just, phew, poof.
It's like, whoa, what happened?
We had a strong coalition.
We were fighting to get deportations.
We were fighting to cut taxes.
We were debating issues about immigration and the big beautiful bill and spending.
Like, okay, we had all these domestic issues.
We were on point.
We were negotiating.
And then just out of nowhere, from behind us, hypersonic missiles.
Like, whoa, we're talking about the Middle East again.
But, you know, I guess I should be fully transparent.
I guess I should just be honest here.
The offers have been made.
Two offers have been made here as the InfoWars audience is once again growing astronomically I was offered the money from Qatar.
They said the only thing was you just have to promote peace to take the money from Qatar.
And then I was offered the money from Israel.
And Israel said, well, you'll just have to promote war.
So I think I'll just stick with America.
I think I'm going to pass.
I think I'll just stick with America.
But I will promote peace.
Well, where do you want to begin today?
It's the same story.
You've got one side pushing for war, and then you've got the other side who has learned from the mistakes of the past that don't want war.
And it's like the old cliche, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
And I'm still aware, my heart tells me Trump's not going to get us involved in a larger war.
My head tells me it's pretty much already a done deal.
It's going to happen.
But now there's starting to emerge what it's going to look like when they take out or they claim they're taking out the nuke sites.
And then what's going to happen if the Ayatollah Khomeini regime comes to an end?
They have already selected their replacement, and it's basically like the Prince of Persia, the remaining family from the Shah from the 70s that was removed from power after he called out Israel's influence.
But now the prince is very pro-Israel, so it all makes sense.
So now it all makes sense.
Now we see where it was always going.
It was always about regime change.
Whether Iran has nukes or not, I don't know.
But it really almost doesn't even matter.
Because Israel has nukes.
Israel won't tell the world.
Israel won't let the world investigate what they're doing.
All the reports of the investigations into Iran's nuclear facilities say they don't have the nukes.
But it's just like this football that's been passed around for 40 years about Iranian nukes.
And then you realize the real game is they just want regime change.
It's what it is.
They just want regime change.
And it could be good.
But now the question that Trump is having to measure is, what are going to be the ramifications?
What are the ramifications going to be if we get involved in this regime change war?
What is it going to be for the U.S. economy?
What is it going to be for the MAGA coalition?
What is it going to be for the rest of the world?
What is it going to be for his other partners that he's trying to cut deals with right now?
What is it going to do for trying to get peace between Pakistan and India?
What is it going to do trying to get peace with Ukraine and Russia?
What is it going to do trying to get deals with China?
Because this isn't like the other regime change wars that have been fought in the Middle East.
Iran is a different beast.
So there is an unknown factor there.
But there's no doubt if there are U.S. boots in the ground, that will be a complete disaster.
That will be a complete disaster.
And Trump knows that.
I think he knows what it would do to his legacy.
I think he knows what it would do to the coalition.
Now, the MAGA coalition might mean absolutely nothing to Donald Trump at this point.
Because he's not running for re-election.
But certainly his legacy he cares about and certainly his other agenda items that could be affected by what happens in Iran are certainly a consideration for Trump as well.
But we now see, it's very obvious, The voices in Trump's ear, the influences in Washington, D.C., who have never turned down a war, who have never seen a war that they didn't want the United States to get involved in.
Now, that could be because of their stocks with defense contractors or the deals they have with defense contractors.
It could be because they're Israeli loyalists.
Maybe they're on the Epstein blackmail list.
Whatever your theory is, this is the case.
It's Mark Levin.
It's Ben Shapiro.
It's Mike Pompeo.
It's Sean Hannity.
It's the exact same people that have always tried to get the U.S. in foreign intervention and foreign entanglements.
It's the same people for 20 years.
20 plus years.
And I don't know if they've ever been as hyper-aggressive as they are now.
And I think the reason why...
There's never been such an organic dialogue on these issues.
So they can't just dominate us.
They can't just say, we've got the big three.
And you could argue, Hannity, I'd say, has always been there.
He's been on Fox for decades.
You know, Shapiro's been around long enough.
Levin's been around a long time.
And they're partly responsible for getting other anti-war voices out of Trump's ear and out of the media.
I'll have you know as well.
And that's because they're against wars.
So they'll say, well, we've got the big three.
We can control enough of the conservative voters.
We'll feed them the propaganda.
We'll tell them what to think, and they'll just believe it.
And the Israeli lobby controls Congress, so it was easy.
It was easy to get the support in the Bush years.
And was there really much pushback even in the Obama years?
And it just shows you Obama...
Even he couldn't stop it.
There's a lot more different perspectives people can analyze to reach a conclusion.
And so you see them absolutely spiraling out of control.
Levin has to be the worst example of it all.
So now it's up to Trump.
And let me explain the MAGA coalition and why this is important.
And then we'll get to...
You've got your MAGA base, which are the Trump supporters since 2015, 2016, the people that have been with Trump since the beginning.
That's your MAGA base.
And that's mostly anti-establishment, anti-war, just real political type, real into politics, following the news.
That's Trump's base.
Then you have the new MAGA that wasn't there in 2016, may or may not have been there in 2020.
I'd say it's probably safer to say wasn't there in 2020, but then showed up in 2024 because it was popular, it was comfortable.
In other words, they wouldn't have been wearing a MAGA hat in 2016.
They wouldn't have been promoting Trump in 2016 when it was dangerous, when it was unpopular.
But now that it is popular, now that it is socially acceptable, it's like the phenomenon of when your team, your local sports team is in the playoffs or wins a championship, you go around town, you see a lot more hats and t-shirts.
So that's basically what it's like.
So you have your kind of cheerleaders that are hopping on now.
So that's your new MAGA.
So you've got your MAGA base, you've got your new MAGA.
The new MAGA is probably the only Really, if you're analyzing the value of these votes, the new MAGA votes are probably just guaranteed you're going to get them no matter what.
If Trump says vote for this person, they'll vote for that person.
I mean, look at how they're all turning on Thomas Massey and Rand Paul and the rest.
So, really, they're the lowest value because they'll do whatever Trump says.
The MAGA base, you know, they're kind of tough to please.
I mean, let's be honest.
But the new MAGA, okay, so you've got the MAGA base, you've got the new MAGA.
Now you've got the Tulsi Gabbard supporters.
Now you've got the RFK Jr. supporters.
Now you've got the Elon Musk fans.
And there's other little corner niche parts of this coalition too.
But these are the big parts.
You've got base MAGA, you've got new MAGA.
You've got Tulsi Gabbard MAGA, you've got RFK Jr.
MAGA, you've got Elon Musk MAGA, and this is the Trump coalition.
And as a political force, it is hard to stop and hard to beat.
And if you can maintain it, you can win in the midterms, and you can even win in 2028, if you can maintain it.
Now, this is what new MAGA doesn't understand.
If you get involved in Iran, and I would say a precision strike like he's done before, if you do a precision strike and that's it, and you get out and you calm things down, you might be able to get away with it.
You might be able to maintain the coalition if you can do that.
There's a chance.
But if you get involved in a larger war, if you get involved in a regime change war, if you put boots on the ground, The coalition will break apart.
I know there has been a lot of speculation amongst all of you in the media regarding the president's decision-making and whether or not the United States will be directly involved.
In light of that news, I have a message directly from the president, and I quote, based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks.
That's a quote directly from the president for all of you today.
So we'll kick it off for questions here in our new media seat.
Well, that means the next two weeks are going to be very interesting as far as what is Israel going to do to try to get more momentum and favor on its side for this war.
And, you know, it's really hilarious dealing with dishonesty.
It's so obvious.
I mean, just ridiculous levels of obvious.
Like, oh, look, I don't want any hospitals to get hit.
I've been the one that's actually like, hey, you know this is going to be bad for Israel.
You have all these people that pretend to care about Israel.
They won't go live there.
They won't go fight there.
But, you know, they're the big Israel supporters.
I'm saying, hey, you know, they all want this war.
You know this puts Israel in danger, right?
So luckily...
Doesn't seem like anybody was killed.
They were in the bunkers.
But then it's, oh my goodness.
Iran hit a hospital.
Israel has hit more than 40 hospitals in the last two years.
And then I'm supposed to sit here and listen to Israel cry about a hospital getting hit?
I don't want any hospitals getting hit.
But it's just like so obvious.
I mean, there's something disturbing there.
He says, oh, well, you know, MAGA's against ending the forever wars, and so that's why you need regime change in Iran, because they're the ones engaging in the forever wars.
What do you think the higher odds are that we will see the gold inside of Fort Knox or that we will see the supposed nukes that Iran has?
Probably neither.
So, I don't understand why Iran's leadership, maybe it's arrogance, but now you've got some voices in Iran and their leadership saying, you know, basically screw your negotiations.
I doubt it's everybody in Iran that feels that way.
But you gotta wonder why they would do that.
Do they have a suicide wish?
I mean, really, they haven't shown that they can win this war.
They haven't even shown that they could defeat Israel.
So if you can't defeat Israel, what makes you think you're going to be able to defeat the United States?
Every time we're on the verge of victory, somebody in the military industrial complex invents some escalation of something so that we can just go to war.
The answer always seems to be, let's go to war or let's support a war or let's enable a war.
And the bulwark to that has been the president.
If we go to war, this totally screws everything up.
You could see oil double.
Double.
What happens to the economy of the world, of world GDP, of everything, of inflation, if you have oil at $100 a barrel, $112 a barrel?
It's not good.
So you have to wonder, like, why would people want this escalation?
Who wants this escalation?
And you see that it's deeply beneficial for America to avoid anything calamitous happening here.
So I hope we find an off-ramp, and I hope that the president gets his way.
And all the voices that are screaming and shouting and pounding their fists on the desks for war don't seem to look at any other angles.
And that's because for them there's only one angle that matters.
And that's whatever Israel wants.
Whatever is best for Israel.
And it's never been more obvious.
And the mudslinging that goes on if you don't agree with the Israel First foreign policy is you're a Qatari agent.
Not working.
I mean, it's, you know, I gotta say, I don't think, so just like the, just like this whole thing hit MAGA out of nowhere, just a total blind shot here, just a total cheap shot out of nowhere here, this, oh my, intervention in the Middle East again?
What happened?
I thought we were, what happened to mass deportations, tax cuts, everything else?
And then just out of nowhere, here comes Middle East intervention again.
It's just kind of blindsided us.
I don't think I've ever seen something move so fast as a political issue.
I don't think I've ever seen something move so fast as a foreign policy debate as I'm seeing right now where the pro-Israel voices are really exposing themselves.
And there is a massive, massive shift on that conversation.
It's really crazy.
And, you know, there's two things I don't understand about it when it comes to the approach here.
And the one is, you know, you keep trying to convince us that you care so much about Israel, and yet you don't seem to mind how the Israelis are suffering.
I mean, you know, it's so bad.
You know Netanyahu's son basically lives in Miami?
Did you know that?
You know he's been living the high life in Miami ever since the war in Palestine started?
And now Netanyahu is like, oh, my poor son, he can't have his wedding.
Putting Israel in the most danger it's been in in decades, and his son is soaking up the sun in Miami!
It's like the same thing with all these American pundits that are obsessed with Israel, and it's like, wait a second, are you going to say anything about the fact that Netanyahu's policy right now and everything you're promoting has Israelis living in bunkers?
You know hospitals are, like, if you're giving birth, you're in a bunker?
Do you even care about that?
Like, what?
Do you think the Israelis are having fun right now?
Going in and out of bunkers and dealing with air raid sirens, wondering how they're going to rebuild their cities, their lives?
When they're going to get to go to school again?
The tourism economy shot.
It's funny because you care so much about Israel, but you never actually talk about how it's being affected by all of this.
It's funny.
And then the other approach I don't understand is, and I see it all the time, and Piers Morgan does pretty good panel debates on this, and it's the same thing every time.
And I saw it again last night.
And it's this, like, weird entitlement.
It's like, no, America has to fight for Israel.
If you don't fight for Israel, if you don't support Israel, you're an anti-Semite.
You're a terrorist.
You're a radical jihadist.
And I'm sitting here like, do you realize how insulting that is to an average American?
What is with the entitlement?
Israel should be knees on the ground kissing our boots.
They should be thanking us for everything we've done.
Well, Brian, they'll be diminished even if Fordow were to remain intact.
But I think your point is precisely right.
Fordow can't remain.
It is a tough target, but it's a target that the West, including the United States, has been staring at for a long time.
We know a lot about it.
And so we should help Israel achieve its ultimate objective, whether that's providing those specialized munitions or a set of other operations that the Israelis, I am confident, have in their arsenal.
We should facilitate the end of Florida.
We should make sure it goes away.
And then we should also make sure that everybody understands.
There's no moral equivalence between what's taking place today.
We see this film from Tel Aviv and other places in Israel.
These are civilian targets the Iranians have gone after.
The Israelis have a strategic deep campaign against military and security targets and the economic lifelines for the Iranian regime.
The Islamic Republic I forgot that he doesn't speak in English because he's actually addressing the people of Iran that he wants to govern.
Not like Netanyahu who addresses the people of America that he wishes to govern.
So there's no need to play that.
I've already made the point.
But that's who they're going to be propping up.
That's whose name you're going to start hearing.
And that's who they're going to try to replace Khamenei with as soon as they can.
But now, I guess it's going to be two weeks.
Trump's Iran decision to come within two weeks.
He announced that today.
But that means it could be any time within two weeks.
And now, you've got to wonder what Netanyahu and the warmongers on the far right in Israel are thinking that they can do to try to sway Trump before that.
Israeli tanks kill 59 people in Gaza crowd trying to get food aid.
So that's still going on, but not really getting talked about as much anymore.
So Israel killed more people in Gaza today than Iran has killed in Israel in their strikes.
But don't let numbers get in the way of the perfect country of Israel.
Oh, by the way...
Well, definitely the relations and the oil trading with China.
But then there was this last year.
Iran says it's discovered the world's second largest lithium deposit.
And meanwhile, of course, Netanyahu's son is chilling in Miami while all this is going on.
Nice look, but he doesn't even care.
And why should he?
Optics don't mean a damn thing to Israel.
Now, there are reporters on the ground in Tel Aviv that try to go get access to the hospital and get access to some of these other strike sites.
And did you know that, just like they did in Gaza, The Israeli police, like the IDF did in Gaza, are banning journalists from filming the strike sites.
Because you'd think there'd be a lot more footage.
So basically it's like right after it happens and people film, you get that footage.
And then the police come in and they shut down all journalists.
So, well, and specifically if you're from a foreign country.
If you're a known friendly to the Israeli government, they'll let you...
So that's real transparent stuff.
But all I'd like is to not spend a bunch more money.
That's all.
That's all.
So I asked Grok how much money has been spent in the Middle East in the last 35 years.
I picked 35 years because that's how old I am.
And Grok says $6 to $12 trillion.
I'd say it's at least eight, probably ten.
Can you imagine, this is all in the Middle East for Israel's regime change wars, that they say is Iran's forever wars.
Give me a break.
Can you imagine what we could have done?
And it's not just Israel that gets $300 billion in foreign aid and Ukraine that gets $300 billion in aid and then the $10 trillion we've spent in the Middle East as well with the other wars.
But could you imagine?
Could you imagine what we could have built in America?
Could you imagine what we could have?
Could you imagine?
We could have the nicest streets.
We could have the best infrastructure.
We could have new planes and trains and rocket ships.
We could be building entire new cities.
But instead we just burn it all up in the Middle East.
Can't get new roadway systems to deal with traffic.
You sit in traffic hours a day.
No.
You can't get any of that.
Because you spent all your money on the other side of the planet.
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Freedom is not easy to earn like freedom from the influence of a foreign country, you know what I mean?
Understand what I'm saying?
Like the freedom to have a sovereign nation that isn't connected at the hip to a country on the other side of the world that controls our foreign policy and our Congress.
Like that type of freedom?
Yeah, that freedom is definitely hard.
You know, it's so crazy too because the more I look into this, it's like it should be such an easy PR victory for Israel here.
It really should be.
But it's just like, you can't trust Netanyahu.
He's a liar.
The double standards of how they approach war versus how they accept war are too obvious.
So they just, it's like, you could win, but you're not.
Alright, President Trump going back and forth with Jerome Powell today.
Powell taking a cheap shot at Trump, a subtle shot at Trump earlier addressing the press here in clip 9. The best thing we can do for the American people, for households and businesses, that is the ultimate thing that we can deliver.
And they can make their decisions without having to think about inflation all the time.
So in the meantime, we have to keep rates high to get inflation all the way down.
They're not very high, let's be honest.
I would say, If you look at the economy, it's not performing as though it were performing under very strict monetary policy, very restrictive monetary policy.
So I would say probably modestly restrictive.
And so what it will take is confidence that inflation is coming down.
Now, I would say without tariffs, that confidence would be building.
There it is.
If you see what's happening with So I think we have to learn a little more about tariffs.
I don't know what the right way for us to react will be.
I think it's hard to know with any confidence how we should react until we see really the size of the effects.
So I guess they're now, well, they're trying to find a way.
There's no real, and look, some people are saying they always celebrate Juneteenth, and there's some parts of America that I guess there is some Juneteenth culture.
But there isn't really like a national culture.
I mean, it's not like, you know, you think of Easter, you think of an Easter bunny or eggs.
Obviously, you know, Jesus Christ.
But there's a culture there.
You think of Christmas and Christmas trees and candy canes, Halloween and pumpkins and Thanksgiving and turkey.
So there's a culture there.
Well, there's not really anything like that with Juneteenth, so it's a little awkward.
But stores want to sell you something marketed for holidays.
So this store, this Kroger's, you know, we may, I don't know if we're going to be able to do this because I just realized, did the crew, did you guys censor this?
We want to play this one?
It's Juneteenth, that's true.
We're not going to be slaves to the system.
Yeah, yeah, you can't censor a black woman on Juneteenth.
We're not going to be slaves to the system on Juneteenth.
So the grocery stores want to have some themed goods.
Goods for Juneteenth.
Okay, what do you associate that with?
What do you...
You guys want to play a fun game?
Do we need to have a laugh?
Do we need to lighten up a little bit?
Do we need to have a little fun?
Are we a little overdue for some fun here?
You want to come up with some ideas?
What would a theme be for Juneteenth?
Good God, I don't even want to...
See?
That's like light.
They're cruising my ear like, chicken and Kool-Aid and watermelon.
Some grits.
No, that's like, that's kind of, that's just like baseline race jokes.
I'm talking about like, you know, like a Django Unchained theme type of thing.
She should retire for her disingenuousness and lying and deceiving the president.
And so D.C. Drano's reporting.
The data is out.
And it looks like MAGA was right about it, Justice Amy Coney Barrett.
She's a backstabber to the people who appointed her.
The records show...
Wow.
She's also the conservative least likely to support Trump in cases that involve the president himself.
So she's a liberal.
Donald Trump appointed Justice Amy Coney Barrett because she postured herself politically What's that about?
Is she living in fear of the terroristic left?
Or did she intentionally deceive America to sneak onto the Supreme Court and stab us in the back?
I was talking to Sheriff Joe Arpaio last night.
Sheriff Arpaio, and he was very complimentary, by the way, but he wanted me to share this with you because there's a lot of attacks on Fox News happening right now with all the typical propaganda they're spewing.
Fox News and their anchors banned Sheriff Arpaio from the network after his reporting on Obama's fake government documents and the fake government documents of illegal aliens that he was reporting on.
So he wanted you to know, he asked me to tell you, that the great sheriff, Joe Arpaio, is banned from Fox News.
That's interesting.
U.S. Senator Bernie Moreno calls for moving the 2028 Olympics from Los Angeles amid protests.
I like that idea.
I don't know why we would reward California and Los Angeles with the Olympics.
Might be too late now.
But they probably should have had him in Florida and or Texas.
Gavin Newsom says it's his duty to represent the illegal immigrants who elected him.
Alright, that's a Babylon Bee satire headline.
But it's still funny and partly true.
It is his duty to represent the illegal immigrants that elected him that he stands for.
Kash Patel is suing.
Well, I don't know about Kash Patel's personal life too much.
I do know he has a pretty good-looking girlfriend.
I don't know.
They might be married.
So I doubt he's spending time in nightclubs.
I would highly doubt that.
So he's going to sue that freak Frank Figluzzi.
Truly, that is a deranged lunatic who used to work at the FBI, which shouldn't make you feel very good.
Feds charge two men for possessing machine guns, one used in shooting at a graduation.
Let's see here.
Let's see.
Court records show Hamza Abduraseed Saeed And Amir Malid Ali are each charged with unlawful possession of a machine gun.
So that's just your stereotypical Minnesota man.
Right?
That's Minnesota man.
Ola Hazma Abdashid Saeed.
Amir Malid Ali.
This is Minnesota man.
Just normal, average Minnesota man.
Two men charged federally with possession of machine guns related to graduation ceremony shootings.
And of course...
So it just goes to show you, gun control doesn't work.
Here's a wild one.
What's going on in South Carolina, by the way?
A great conservative state.
A lot of great conservatives there.
Smart people, good people.
But something is up with the political representation that you guys seem to elect.
Like Nikki Haley and Lindsey Graham.
And then this fella.
Republican South Carolina State Representative Robert May has been arrested for distributing over 200 child porn files under the username JoeBiden69.
What?
JoeBiden69.
Federal grand jury in Greenville returned a 10-count indictment against Robert May of West Columbia.
For distributing child sex abuse material, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children received a cyber tip from the social messaging app Kik.
Kik flagged several videos from the username JoeBiden69 as containing sex abuse of minors.
Faces a maximum penalty of 20 years, minimum of five.
He'll get one and he'll get out.
I know how the BOP works in the federal.
Prison system.
For some reason, child abusers and child porn distributors, they always start in a low security and they always seem to get out first.
Joe Biden 69. Folks, if you see a message from somebody named Joe Biden 69, that's your first sign that you need to get far, far, far away.
And farther.
A local farm in New Jersey is fighting to keep its life.
Family and neighbors make last plea to save New Jersey Farm from seizure.
Chris Henry stood before the Cranberry Township Committee earlier this week, begging the town not to seize a historic farm his family has owned for generations.
You know, there's a lot of farm stories out there.
A lot of big land stories out there.
The Trump administration is talking about starting to use some of this federal land.
You also have this story out of Texas where this guy is trying to purchase a bunch of land and the water reservoirs.
A similar thing has happened in California.
A similar thing has happened in Arizona.
And it's had horrible results.
Now, the Republicans here in Texas that are actually Democrats will probably support this.
But what happens is...
I think they make like the pistachios and everything else.
And they buy the water reservoirs and then they basically cut off the water.
And originally they buy it and they say, oh no, no, we're here to preserve it.
And then they just end up selling water access and getting filthy rich.
And it hurts farmers.
It's hurt farmers in California.
It's hurt farmers in Arizona, and now they're set to do it in Texas as well.
You'd think we'd have a little more of an inclination to protect farmers.
You'd think we'd have a little bit more of an inclination to make sure that farmers can have as easy as a go as possible to produce food for the American people.
But instead, we make it as hard as we can on them.
And even though Trump is great for agriculture and farmers, you know, he's distracted with the interest of another country now.
So that's probably...
Whenever there's a big geopolitical distraction like this, so many bad things happen domestically that get completely ignored because of it.
So it looks like that's happening right now.
It looks like we are witnessing it right now.
By the way, speaking of a witness...
Dr. Young-Hoo Kim, recognized by the Guinness Book of World Records to have the highest IQ in the history, has publicly affirmed himself as a believer in Jesus Christ, the Savior, and the Messiah.
Alright, before we get into everybody's favorite subject, the Israel-Iran conflict.
Oh, wow.
Well, we've come up with a cake.
We have a cake!
Wow, who made that?
Who did that?
Is that you?
I see you.
You can try to get out of frame.
We caught you.
You've been caught red-handed.
That's not what I had in mind.
Probably a little more palatable.
Juneteenth, man.
Come up with your best cake design for Juneteenth.
We're taking young American girls off the streets and suggesting they're about to get raped in El Salvador in prisons and the Republican is there feeling and grinding on them, too.
There could be portions of their nuclear program that are secret.
A nuclear secret in the Middle East.
How about it?
If the world is interested in a secret nuclear program in the Middle East, there is a country that won't allow any international inspectors.
Israel.
Israel has a nuclear weapon.
Did you know that?
I do.
They allow no inspections.
They are fully secretive and clandestine about it.
And the Americans aren't fully aware.
You know what?
I don't even blame Israel for this.
If they want to develop a nuclear weapon, if they had the blessing to do so secretly, I'm not in judgment of that.
But to drag the world into a regime-change war over secret nuclear weapons, when you have secret nuclear weapons...
So here's a deal.
How about Iran and Israel both give up their secret nuclear weapon programs?
If Trump got that deal, he wouldn't only get the Nobel Peace Prize, they'd probably name it the Trump Peace Prize forevermore.
And it's not that crazy to think about Israel denuclearizing.
Look at the model in South Africa.
South Africa denuclearized right before they stopped being an apartheid state.
Prominent voices in Israel and America have called for Trump to recognize Israel's sovereignty over Judea and Samaria, which some people call the West Bank.
If that happens, Israel will have to let the five to six million people who live there vote.
And they don't want to do that.
I'm not calling Israel an apartheid state.
Right now, I don't think they are.
But if they are ruling the West Bank, as the neocons would suggest, There's a certain bravado at the beginning of a Middle East regime change war.
There's enthusiasm, bold predictions of swift victory, and usually a total misunderstanding of what happens next.
Oh, Iraq wasn't prepared.
Daisy cutter?
This is how easily the so-called foreign policy experts believed we would carve our way through Iraq.
I saw how many of our bravest patriots were pushing up daisies as a consequence of that war.
I went to their funerals.
I visited their grave sites.
I saw the true cost of a flawed regime-change war in the Middle East.
The problem is we had no plan to get out.
Iraq cost America $3 trillion, and this distraction and disaster aided in both the rise of China and ISIS.
Whoever was telling you that we had the ability to topple a regime in Iraq and then come out with something better was either, one, lying to you, or, two, so wholly ignorant about the country they were invading that their lack of knowledge or curiosity or understanding led to blood and terrorism and chaos.
So as we approach the 2025 vintage of regime change wars in Iran, I wonder if those now cheerleading attacks on Iran know anything about the country.
And ultimately, and I hope it doesn't go the wrong way, if anybody can...
A small skirmish.
It's President Trump.
But it looks like all the cards are already at play for what's going to happen here.
And the best thing, I would still say, is for Trump to just say, we're just out.
We're just out.
We agree Iran can have a nuke, but we're not going to take any military action.
We'll say to Israel, Godspeed and good luck, but we're out.
And Netanyahu clearly knew he was always going to ask the United States to get involved.
And now other politicians are saying the United States have to get involved as well.
So they lied the whole time.
They knew it.
I actually have a decent idea.
I think, and it was...
I think this is a fair, I think it's a fair deal.
We'll sell three bunker busters to Israel, $100 billion apiece.
I know they have the money because we gave it to them.
So, okay, we can get our money back.
We'll give them the bunker busters that they need to, quote, finish the job.
And the United States of America gets its $300 billion back from Israel.
What do you think about that?
Pretty good.
Pretty good idea, I'd say.
$300 billion, three bunker busters, and you can go finish the job.
That way we don't have to get directly involved.
We get our money back from you that you've been taking for years.
And you can finish the job that supposedly everybody supports.
And we can just say good luck.
That's just one man's idea.
Just one crazy person's.
You know, this issue, though, has been around for a long time, but it certainly never reached this point.
It's never even been close to the point that it's at right now.
This is Pat Buchanan in 1991 talking about this issue in clip 10. Really occupied territory.
unidentified
I said on the McLaughlin Group in response to a question, Jim.
They said, do you think that the Congress of the United States will resist this demand for further aid?
I said, threw out a crack at her.
I said, no, the Congress of the United States is Israeli-occupied territory.
What I meant by that is, It has gotten its way in this town year in and year out.
And I don't think the automatic votes of the Congress of the United States for $3 and $4 billion worth of aid to Israel are necessarily in the national interest of the United States.
And that comment, which is to ridicule the subservience of the Congress of the United States, is perfectly valid.
I do not believe my government.
should subsidize Israeli socialism, which we have done, and I do not believe we should subsidize a policy on the West Bank of the Jordan River which denies the Palestinian people rights which I support from Lithuania to Croatia.
But if I also believe that Pat Buchanan is entitled to stand up and speak out against any kind of political lobby, whether it's the Greek lobby, And you think that's what's happened to you?
Let me tell you something, Jim.
This little flap is 18 months old.
Why We Left CNN00:11:33
unidentified
I made this crack.
I know Buckley's talking about an 18-month-old column.
Let's forget that.
When this broke, I made that Wiseacre crack about the Amen Corner.
It was Wiseacre, and it was very funny.
You know what happened as a consequence of that?
People called my newspapers that carried my column and said, "Drop Buchanan." AIPAC listed five conservative columnists who accepted it.
The pro-Israeli lobby.
I went out to speak in the country and a little girl from the Junior League said, "I get these horrible calls from New York about you." People, there are individuals who are pro-Israeli, go around the country and speak in synagogues and say, "Call CNN and get Pat Buchanan taken off the air." Those kinds of tactics, in my judgment, are un-American.
They are done in the name of the First Amendment, and they violate the spirit of the First Amendment.
You know me.
I've been in this town for 25 years, 30 years.
I am controversial.
I am sometimes insensitive.
I am tough and I am hard.
But I think that this type of thing is beyond the pale.
Wasn't that a mistake we made in World War II, that the only person that seemed to really understand the nature of Hitler's ambitions was a guy by the name of Winston Churchill?
Wasn't he the one guy that understood that he really meant what he said?
unidentified
Sean, Ahmadinejad was in power for eight years.
He did nothing.
He was a blowhard.
Are we going to be frightened by words from some character in Iran?
So you don't have any problem with the seal of Barack Hussein Obama ultimately being on an Iranian nuclear weapon with their history of being a state sponsor of terror, fighting proxy wars, threatening Israel to annihilate them, and the United States.
You have no problem with that.
unidentified
Listen to the American head of intelligence.
He says Iran does not have a bomb program as of 2013.
Suddenly, if they start building a bomb, we will know it.
Third, Iran has made some concessions that are not enough that makes them less able to get to a bomb.
If the Saudis don't go in there, then they're going to be surrounded by the Iranians, which, by the way, wants to clearly build a huge power for themselves in the region.
And that would be more dangerous, as the Jordanians and Egyptians believe.
unidentified
Sean, the reason there's going to be a power in the Gulf is because your president, George W. Bush, invaded Iraq and turned it into a lot of Iran.
We're going to bring it up, point out that the surge worked, and Bush's admonition in 2007, if the admonition of keeping intelligence and training troops on the ground were met by Obama, we wouldn't be in this position, would we?
unidentified
Sean, the reason we're in this position is because Saddam Hussein, a thug, was overthrown, his state was destroyed, his army was broken up, elections were held by Bush, democracy crusade, and the Shia won, and we lost Iraq.
You see, folks, the conversation hasn't changed for 30 years.
The conversation hasn't changed.
The propaganda hasn't changed.
The narrative hasn't changed.
The agenda hasn't changed for 30 years.
So look, you can decide who's better or who's worse or what needs to be done.
Just understand.
This is the same propaganda.
It's the exact same conversation.
It's the exact same propaganda, and nothing has changed.
I do wonder, though.
I do wonder if we've kind of crossed a threshold now where it's like, it is changing now.
You wonder if we've kind of crossed this threshold now where this is the last go.
This is the last go where they can run this propaganda against us.
This is the last go where they can repeat the exact same talking points for 30 years against us.
But then you wonder, well, what does that mean, though?
Does that mean we're about to have a major terror attack, a false flag, another invasion in the Middle East?
Or can we finally just put this thing to bed and as Americans just say, hey, we're wiping our hands of this, we're done, we're out.
Israel, do whatever you want to do.
Good luck.
Godspeed.
We're out.
We've done enough.
It's been a total disaster for us, a failure for us, blood and treasure.
We're done.
You have at it.
By the way, speaking of Britain, kneecap rapper Liam Ohana, 27 years old, charged with terror offense after displaying a flag of Hezbollah.
So he put up a Hezbollah flag, and that's a terror incident.
He is now being charged with terror for showing a flag.
And I guess that's what Shmully would like.
He saw a flag he didn't like in Spain.
And I don't know, something's wrong with this guy.
unidentified
Here it is, clip 19. Running of the bulls in Pamplona.
Remember, I told you that running of the bulls is a metaphor of what we Jews have to do every day with anti-Semites and showing up.
Everywhere you go, Pete Palestine, Pete Palestine, Pete Palestine, Pete Palestine, Pete Palestine, Pete Palestine.
You know, and this is Pamplona.
I don't think there's one Jew here.
Remember the Spanish explosion, they kicked us all out, starved us to death, and they shoved us across the Spanish-Portuguese border, made us leave, burned us alive, and they still won't stop.
A couple more video clips, news headlines, and I think we'll take some calls in the second hour of the Infowars.
War Room.
All right, third hour here of the InfoWars War Room.
We're going to open up the phone lines here momentarily.
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And by the way, if you were listening earlier this week, I was talking about how...
It was like a 24, 48-hour bug and how my throat was killing me.
You guys remember that, crew?
You guys remember when I was talking about that?
Well, this is in the headlines today.
What we know about COVID variant Nimbus.
Ooh, Nimbus.
It's got a Harry Potter branding to it.
Nice.
COVID variant Nimbus, known for razor blade throat amid surge in cases.
So, I mean, that's exactly what I had.
I would say for about 24 hours it felt like I was swallowing razor blades.
Maybe overall like 48 hours that I was really, you know, hurting by it.
But didn't take a day off of work.
Nobody else around me got sick.
Of course, you know, they're telling you it's the most contagious thing ever.
Oh my gosh, Nimbus.
Oh, it flies around on a broom.
It's magic.
So I don't know if I had it or not.
But the point is, I have a strong immune system because I take the health supplements from the Alex Jones store.
So it didn't sideline me for a minute.
And I was able to kick it in about 48 hours.
So that's why having an immune system is so important.
Oh, and of course, I've never taken a vaccine either.
So, I don't know if that's what I had, but that's my symptoms.
That's definitely what I was going through.
The razor blade throat.
And if you've ever had, you know, bad strep throat or something like that, you know exactly what that's like.
You know, I'm seeing a lot of this, and they're mostly using this to attack Candace Owens.
But there's an irony here.
I pulled a post from Roseanne Barr, who recently...
You know, I don't take anything personal in politics, and we've been through so much hell here at Infowars, you know, it doesn't really affect us at all.
But they're using this to attack Candace Owens, and then they say, and then they act like I've never covered this.
Anybody that listens to the show know that I cover the attacks in Christians in Africa all the time.
Well, I don't know if all the time is fair, but I cover it.
So they're now trying to somehow use this as some proof that I don't even know.
It doesn't even make any sense.
These people are losing their minds because they're losing the debate so badly.
And so Roseanne says, Qatar doesn't pay right-wing influencers to report on these stories, so I'm going to share them because I am not an engagement farmer who relies on dark money.
Also, I like voting and free speech and women rights and such.
Nigerian Christian.
The Islamist militia murdered more than 200 Christians in the village.
The world barely wrote a word about it.
Yeah, this actually is proving the opposite point that you're trying to prove.
So then the question would obviously be why aren't we trying to overthrow Nigeria.
Why aren't we trying to bomb the Islamicists out of Africa?
So you're actually proving our point that the only reason we're in the Middle East is because of Israel.
So you thought you somehow proved some other point about Qatar, which is just a giant swing and a miss.
And then you actually ended up proving our point that the only reason we are dealing with the radical Islamicists in the Middle East It's because it's what Israel wants.
So, actually, thank you for proving my point.
And look, I don't take anything personally.
I really don't.
And I know beef against Roseanne Barr or Laura Loomer who attacks me all the time now.
But I do recall, and if I really wanted to spend the time, I bet I could find it.
I bet the crew could find it.
I bet somebody in the audience should find it.
I recall Roseanne Barr.
It might have been with Theo Vaughn.
I don't remember who it was.
But I remember Roseanne Barr, I believe the exact quote was, the Jews control everything.
I believe that was the exact quote.
It might have been with Anomaly, I can't remember, because she does a lot of shows.
But I believe that was the exact quote.
But now she says the Muslim Brotherhood controls everything.
So, I don't know.
It's hard to keep up with the spin.
And the truth is they're just losing the debate so badly that they're just spiraling.
They're just spiraling out of control at this point, and since the mainstream media is so distrusted, is that a story about it right there, guys?
We'll get a little more clarification.
But see, the problem is the mainstream media is so distrusted, and now all they can do is rely on the mainstream media to back up their points, the same mainstream media that they don't trust.
What do we have here?
Firebrand, this is from 2023.
Firebrand comedian Roseanne Barr set off an uproar this week for comments denying the Holocaust.
Although the statements by the Jewish entertainer appear to be satirical, Barr has expressed pride in her Jewish background and advocated for Jews and Israel in the past and has a history of making incendiary comments, including racist remarks.
Yeah, with Theo Vaughn.
That's what it was.
It was with Theovan.
Yeah.
Nobody wants to hear the real truth, is what she said.
Oh, I bet you could find the clips.
I bet you could find the clips.
Look at that.
Is that not exactly what I'm saying?
All in that story in the Times of Israel?
So, you know, I have this thing called an addiction to media.
Like a freakish addiction.
It's probably extremely unhealthy.
And I also happen to have a photographic memory.
So whenever something goes in my head, it's always there.
Now, that doesn't mean I can always access it, but, like, if something else, it's like if some other brain synapse fires, it, like, can...
So as soon as she started saying this, as soon as when Roseanne Barr was like, oh, the Muslim Brotherhood controls everything on TimCast, I was like, didn't you just tell Theo Vaughn it was the Jews like a year ago?
It's really fun at this point.
Now, war is not fun.
Destroying the MAGA coalition that could have dominated politically in elections for eight years is not fun.
Watching America get...
But you know what?
Politics and debate, that is fun.
It is fun.
So we don't take it personally because we enjoy life and we love life.
And at the end of the day, we know God's in control anyway.
But I couldn't help but first notice the irony of, oh, nobody covers how Islam is attacking Christians in Africa.
Well, yeah, why do you think that is?
You're proving our point.
Nobody's wanting to drop a bomb in Africa to defeat the Islamicists.
Nobody's calling for regime change in Africa to defeat the Islamicists.
Cameron's Concerns About Trump's Presidency00:15:30
I'm going to give this piece of advice out to people that seem to just not get it.
But, you know, there's other people in the world that have a different perspective than you.
And there's other people in politics that have a different perspective than you.
And you know that Trump is not going to be president forever, right?
It's not going to be president forever.
So you kind of got to consider these things.
So that's just my free advice.
Try to stabilize you and get you to look at, you know, level two and three and four and beyond.
You either take it or you don't.
All right.
What are the odds?
We have two Camerons that got on the line first.
I don't know if we've ever taken a call from Cameron before.
We got two of them in a row.
So let's start with Cameron in Washington.
Let's go to Cameron in Washington to lead us off.
Go ahead, Cameron.
unidentified
Hey, Owen.
Thanks for taking my call.
I wanted to talk about how just in a few months we went from talking about Canada being our 51st state and buying Greenland to getting sucked into another war in the Middle East.
And if you take even bigger step back out in Trump's first administration, everything was going good up until COVID is when they hijacked it.
We all know that was planned, staged, implemented.
And they stole the election.
shot at him when he was rerunning for for He gets in.
They don't even let him get a full year into it before they start another war in the desert, more money to burn, and derailing his policies again.
And at this point, if Trump can't recognize when his administration is being taken over and hijacked and all of his policies, everything he'd wanted to do is going down the drain, I don't know how much more we can do or help him.
I would point to what I said at the top of the show yesterday, perhaps to...
He's got all these real spiritual religious Jews in his ear.
I mean, these are like devout religious people, and they're telling him he's basically like the next great savior.
I mean, that's basically what they're telling him.
So, I mean, I can't even imagine what that is like going through it.
So I think that that's why he kind of feels...
But to the larger point, yeah, the whole thing, it just came out of nowhere, right?
I mean, it's like, you know, here we are in the ring and we're fighting the things in front of us and we're dealing with the America First agenda and we're dealing with getting everything in place to get the economy going and hopefully get some deep state arrests or something to deal with the deep state.
And then it's like out of nowhere.
It's like a WWE match.
It's like out of nowhere.
Somebody crawls out from beneath the ring and climbs over the rope and hits us with a steel chair.
And we're just like, whoa, what the hell?
And it's the Middle East again.
unidentified
Yep.
I don't know what else to say at this point besides we have to get out.
We can't spend more money there.
We have homeless veterans on the street and we're going back to the Middle East to spend more money.
So on the issue of what old, who was a Pat Buchanan was talking about earlier, you start looking into Adolf Hitler in World War II.
Part of the reason why Judea declared war on Germany was because Hitler wouldn't give them back the banks.
The banks funded Adolf Hitler.
Brown Brothers and Harriman was one.
And the Bush family, which is a Supported very heartily by Hannity.
Hannity is nothing but a shill.
They own part of Brown Brothers and Harriman.
Imagine that, right?
So that's a whole side note to that.
But when you look into Churchill's memoirs, Because if we would have done that, then everything they did in World War I, which was to stop Germany from merchandising or doing business, would have been for nothing.
We get caught up in this deal where it's just like we can't move on from World War II.
And it's like I get the points and I get the debate about history.
And obviously we've been lied to about everything.
And so you go back and you question the things that happened after World War II.
You question even – you look at what's happened since World War II.
You wonder who really even won the war.
I mean – and who talks about the 85 million Russians and Europeans and Americans that died?
So it's like – I get wanting to have that debate because so much of the geopolitical discussion, it's like so centered on World War II, but it's like we have to move on.
It's recognizing the fact that these people are lying to us about history with simple facts that we can actually get to.
And then you have to start questioning why are they continuing to lie and then lying to us even more to get us into another war with Iran, which I'm going to tell you, it's not going to make Americans any more freer, and I don't want to see our kids.
And look, aside from Israel losing the support of the world and the United States of America in, you know, let's just say political culture, which is true, I mean, Israel is winning.
They're not suffering big casualties from these Iranian strikes.
And somehow they're knocking out precisely like every Iranian leader.
I mean, Iran just like replaced some of the leaders that Israel killed.
The next day, Israel killed the replacement.
So I mean, Israel is beating them.
And if they can put a vacuum and fill it with the prince of Persia that they've selected, the next Shah, I guess, that they've selected, and they can free the Iranian people, then fine.
I'm going to keep this as concise as possible because we didn't really communicate last time I was on here.
So Donald Trump is the president of the United States.
So I want to put this in a military context.
Maybe you can understand what we're talking about.
We have a CO.
We have a commanding officer in charge of a military unit.
He passes down orders to us.
Now, we'll execute those orders.
Sometimes we don't like those orders.
Sometimes we'll get orders of, like, why are we doing this?
It doesn't make any sense.
But we don't have all the information that's tied to us.
The CO is passing down these orders based on information we don't have.
So what we have to do, and what I would tell my troops, is, hey, if you had the same information he had, you may be doing the same thing.
Now, Donald Trump has...
If it was me, if I was the President of the United States, based on all my experience in that region, I would tell Iran to go ahead and build a nuclear weapon.
I don't have a problem with that at all.
That's me.
That's where I would be sitting from.
Because I know we have the technology, even back when I was in the military, we had the technology.
To know when they're warming up a nuclear weapon, a rudimentary nuclear weapon.
Yeah, just regarding the Ted Cruz and the whole – If he sat there and said at one side of his mouth that Iran does not have the capability to field competent assassins to go after cabinet members who've lost their secret service, much less the president of the United States.
But they have the capability to generate a nuclear weapon that can strike America.
And I'm not disagreeing, but certainly you understand that not everybody thinks like you.
And not everybody is going to have the same thought process.
So you just have to be realistic about it.
The MAGA coalition is done if we get involved in Iran.
It just is.
You're going to lose all the centrists.
You're going to lose all the anti-war people.
You're going to lose a lot of the Gabbard people, RFK Jr. people, Musk people.
Again, so you can be spot on, best analysis.
But I mean, that's just the reality.
That is just flat out the reality.
And I thank you for the call.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
I'm just dealing with realities here.
And you will destroy the MAGA coalition if you go into Iran.
Guaranteed 100%.
And it doesn't even matter how it turns out.
It could turn out great.
It could turn out fantastic.
It won't matter.
Most people are not that politically savvy.
They're not that politically sophisticated and intellectual.
They look at one thing and...
So they'll see it in Iran and they'll say, oh, I'm done.
I'm out.
Not voting Republican again.
It's just how it's going to go.
Let's go to Michael in Texas.
Michael, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey there, Owen.
Hey there, Owen.
This is Michael in Texas.
A quick point is, you know, kind of argument is Trump needs to attack Iran to show the power to both Russia and Iran.
I mean, Russia and China.
I disagree with that argument, because basically Netanyahu has already proven that we're not a world power on this stage anymore by basically Trump saying, we have our spies, saying there's no nuclear weapon development in Iran, yet Netanyahu goes, well, we still need to attack.
Trump says, don't attack, I'm trying to work a deal.
He ignores it.
Flip side, you've got Russia and China, you know, Iran is a surrogate of both of those countries.
If they truly are not working on a weapon, then that means they've controlled their surrogate.
Second of all, this week I was looking at a picture of Netanyahu and I'm thinking, this man might not even live long enough.
To see the full extent of a destruction of, like, World War III simply because of his age.
And a lot of world leaders are super old.
They don't care.
They have nothing to risk.
They're at the end of their life stages.
And that's true for all members of the deep state.
Most of them are very old.
And that's why half of them want to achieve world dominion because if they don't hurry it up, they aren't going to live to see it.
And, I mean, maybe Trump won't either, to be perfectly honest.
He's up there, too.
But younger generations, millennials and Gen Z and even Gen X, we're not in Congress.
We're not represented.
We've never even stood a chance.
The boomers have held and maintained power for the last 50 years.
And that's true all over the world.
That's true economically with the housing crisis.
That's true with generational wealth.
That's true in politics.
They only make policies that benefit them because they're all still in charge.
Do you think young people want to go to war?
No.
We're the ones they send in wars.
We're the ones who will suffer the consequences.
They're going to economically prosper, or it won't affect them that much.
But it'll affect our generation for decades afterwards.
And here's the main issue.
I was talking to my in-laws.
They're up there.
And they were talking about how, you know, they just automatically support Israel, and it's all related to, you know, religion and the Bible.
And a lot of boomers are like that.
They automatically support Israel because that's what they've been told religiously for the last 50 years.
And so, like, we need to really address this from the religious angle.
And I think that's, like, a missing puzzle piece that even if we want to look at it politically, a huge aspect of this conversation is the religious aspect.
Because there's Bible verses that say, like, I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.
And a lot of people, like, they take it so literally and so seriously.
And, like, people who are boomers and diehard Trumpers, they're like, oh.
We have to do this because God will bless us if we don't.
There's so many people who track that way and think that way.
And theologically, they need to be explained why that's not true.
And one of them kind of plays into a clip that I'm going to air here in a second.
This is why when I talk about AOC running for president, I'm serious.
That's not a joke.
I'm dead serious.
I want AOC to run for president because it's time to break the stranglehold that the boomers and up have had over our political fate.
It's just true.
It's time for new leadership.
They don't really represent us politically.
They don't represent us culturally.
And I don't do the generational warfare stuff.
I don't, I'm even a, I'm even a, And you learn more to the wisdom of your elders to respect that as you grow older.
But no, your point is absolutely correct.
We're being led by people, the same people, with the same ideas and the same politics for 50 years.
For 50 years.
And would anyone argue they've done good?
I don't know.
I don't know.
They seem to complain about as much or more than anyone else.
So, I mean, you could look at it, whatever happens here with Trump, that, yeah, that's going to usher in an opportunity for young people to get involved with new ideas and new policies and new political culture, which is definitely long overdue.
And I'll finish up a statement with that in a second with this video clip.
You know, as far as the religious angle and the biblical angle, I don't really care to get too much into that.
I don't really spend much time on that on this show.
I've looked into it.
I've looked into it quite a bit, even.
I would say at the risk of turning a lot of people off, I mean, I think it's pretty clear that this whole idea that you have to support the state of Israel because the Bible tells you so is a blatant misinterpretation.
But that's a boomer propaganda.
And that's why I opened the show yesterday, like I told the last caller, with that angle that Trump has these...
And I mean, they're telling him he's going to bring in the Messiah and he's going to save the Jews and he's going to save Israel.
And it's just like, they really believe this stuff.
I mean, you can imagine how heavy that is when you're Trump dealing with that.
But, you know, I don't really get into that angle.
I think you could say it's important when it comes to this issue, no doubt.
I just don't really get into that because...
But that is certainly a heavy part of this, because like you said, and like your in-laws or Ted Cruz or, you know, it's many people, they just say, oh yeah, no, we support Israel no matter what the Bible tells us to.
Well, like Tucker asked Ted, it's like, well, does that mean you support the government of Israel?
The current nation state of Israel was formed in the late 1940s.
And then it's like you go into this whole background about, well, what is even Judea?
What is even all of this stuff?
So, boy, that's a whole can of worms right there.
But, Katie, I thank you for the call.
Now, having said that, this is Whitney Cummings, who is a liberal but has a good attitude about it all.
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But listen to what she says and why she feels she's slowly becoming more conservative here in clip 20. It's been fascinating because I've been on this sort of journey through motherhood where, you know, I've always been a very liberal person, maybe even a libtard.
There's a couple different angles you could take here from the man's side and from the woman's side, but I think there's the same general ritual, the same general initiation that she's talking about here.
And so when you have women that are all about abortion or even have had abortions or are rejecting motherhood, or you look at...
Well, that's like a human initiation process.
That's like a human ritual process.
And, yeah, when you have a kid, your brain chemistry changes, the way you see the world changes, obviously you become a lot less selfish.
Whether you were really selfish or not to begin with, you start to think about it that way.
And so this is a human ritual.
This is a human initiation.
And now it's getting pushed off or it's getting completely rejected.
And so you have this arrested development.
You have this arrested maturation of actually becoming an adult and you're just stuck like a kid.
But that's just a kind of a cultural phenomenon that we deal with.
As they say, culture and politics are obviously two things that are attached.
Speaking of family here, before we take another call, the Obama family, they've been a part of a lot of rumors, obviously, recently that Barack and Michelle maybe aren't doing so well.
Now, I don't know if you believe any of that or not.
By the way, how's Michelle's podcast going?
Yeah, not so much.
Not so much.
Well, they just posted a family photo.
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All right, let's go to Gunter in Florida.
Gunter, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Owen.
I know you can't make any sense out of this, but I wonder how people can justify this in their mind when you have a country that's clearly an enemy of Iran claiming that they are trying to get a nuclear weapon.
Can we trust them?
Neutral source?
No, obviously not.
They're an enemy of theirs.
So they could obviously just make this accusation, and people fall for it.
And it's like, okay, so is it coming from a reliable source?
Well, they lied to you about Iraq war.
And the biggest point is, why can't Iran have a nuclear weapon?
It's 80-year-old technology.
Imagine if America couldn't have 80-year-old technology when it came to It would be such a stupid statement to say the country can't have that technology.
Well, look, the questions that you're asking are just proving what really I'm trying to The message we're trying to portray here is you're being propagandized.
And so all you're doing is being an observer and asking the fair questions, which can't be answered fairly because all the answers are just propaganda.
unidentified
And when I try to bring this up at any time, like on Facebook or with anybody, they just call me an anti-Semite, and I'm part Jewish, and it's just ridiculous.
And I guess you could maybe tie it into the vaccines, maybe not so much, but it's like, we're sitting here, we've got this big MAGA coalition, it's infighting about this whole Israel issue, which has always been this way.
It's been this way for frickin' 40 years, man.
When are we gonna move on as Americans?
But you have people, and I'm sure it's the people you're talking about, where you have interactions, and it's like, okay.
They've probably matured enough politically now to say, okay, Trump-Russia collusion was a lie.
The Hunter Biden laptop was real.
They lied about that.
Okay, you know, they lied about COVID.
And okay, they lied about the vaccines, right?
So we've had this political maturation process where they realize, oh, the American media lies.
It's the fake news.
It's propaganda, right?
So it's like even a lot of historical lies, too.
So it's like we've had this maturation process and we understand now how we're lied to all the time, but then it's like, oh no, but not with this issue.
No, this issue's different, Gunter.
unidentified
Yeah, and some of these people I've been friends with for 20, 25 years, and I've listened to Alex since 2003, so I'm one of the original people that listened to him.
And they've seen that I've gotten every prediction right.
I was right about Iraq when I was only one of 7% of the population that was against the Iraq war.
And now they're thinking that it's different with the Syrian war.
And it's like, how do you guys not see that I've been right so many times?
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