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The silent majority is no longer silent.
This is The War Room with Owen Schroyer.
jon bowne
Please stand by for further details.
unidentified
We return now to your regularly scheduled program.
jon bowne
Just how much of the Great Reset has already dug its blood-soaked talons into modern civilization?
unidentified
I've got a message for all illegals.
If you don't want to be pushed back, if you don't want to be arrested, if you don't want to be shot, don't come to our borders.
do not come to the Polish border, then you're safe.
It's not us.
It's not our police who came up to beat you up, to push you or to arrest you.
It's you who tried to break the law on our land.
jon bowne
The signs of sabotage are numerous and widespread as the vultures of great reset tyranny circle a sickened and angered populace that is on track for a mass starvation event in the very near future.
marc morano
We're seeing this madness spread everywhere now.
In Ireland, they're going to call 200,000 cows over three years to meet the net zero climate goals.
Germany, this is their German newspaper, The Daily Build, one sausage per month, according to the government's new proposal with the German Nutritional This is real.
It's happening.
It's not theoretical.
We're not talking about down the road.
rosa koire
You know, when you know that agenda 2030 is simply a milestone year within that 100-year period, the milestone years are 2020, 2025, 2030, and 2050.
They really fully expect to have this entire plan locked up and completed by 2050.
If you go to America2050.org, which is a Ford Foundation and Rockefeller Foundation project, you'll get a look at what their idea is for in fact, what they want the United States to devolve into, which is to destroy the sense of having a unified...
Union and to, in fact, not have 50 states any longer, to have 11 mega-regions.
And, in fact, what this plan does is it destroys the actual concept of the nation-state.
And it completely destroys it and devolves it into the city-states or regions.
And these are not, you know, like individual cities like, say, San Francisco or New York.
These are regions that are governed by megacities, which are huge, enormous cities.
It could be part of Washington State, part of Oregon, part of Idaho, and part of British Columbia.
So it breaks the national borders, it breaks state borders, it breaks, of course, county and city borders.
And this is about destroying your ability to actually be able to control what it is that happens to you.
It's a plan that is actually, it's a global plan, but they implement it locally.
unidentified
People depend on you for what's left of the food.
jon bowne
You control them.
unidentified
Where food is abundant and cheap, you do not control them.
Where energy is cheap and abundant, you do not control them.
Scarcity equals dependency equals control.
jon bowne
And that's why they're targeting the food chain, they're targeting the energy supply, they're targeting everything. - French President Emmanuel Macron's country has been flooded with the United Nations self-proclaimed replacement migration.
Regardless of what the propaganda denying its existence would have you believe, Macron is now priming the pump for energy crises and food shortages as the World Economic Forum once again tightens its grip on the neck of the French people.
Disgraced California Governor Gavin Newsom has said the quiet part out loud.
Pushing California towards a goal of zero emissions by 2035. In the next 15 years, we will eliminate in the state of California the sales of internal combustion engines.
unidentified
Extreme heat will grip much of the state through the Labor Day weekend.
This morning, Governor Gavin Newsom is laying out ways you can stay safe and prevent putting a strain on the electrical grid over the upcoming days.
Let's listen in.
gavin newsom
We voluntarily ask you to do a little bit more to help us get through the next week or so.
Turn, interestingly, up a little bit.
The thermostat at home to 78 degrees.
Try to pre-cool earlier in the day the home.
Try not to use too much electricity in those key hours.
And the key hours are between 4 p.m.
and 9 p.m.
unidentified
If we are not able to ask skeptical questions, to interrogate those who tell us that something is true, to be skeptical of those in authority.
Then we're up for grabs for the next charlatan, political or religious who comes ambling along.
jon bowne
John Bowne reporting.
owen shroyer
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Monday, March 3rd, 2025. We are into March.
We are officially into March here on the Infowars War Room.
We heard from President Trump earlier today at the Oval Office.
And then during a White House press briefing about some of the contracts that he is bringing in, it's now over a trillion dollars.
I think it's closer to five trillion dollars of incoming investments in the United States that President Trump has secured since becoming president.
Now, you combine that with everything that Doge is uncovering with the waste, fraud, and abuse, and you can see these numbers are really starting to add up.
And I've got some of these numbers in front of me.
And what I'm seeing is, you know, Musk is now the biggest target of the left, I think, even maybe more so than Trump.
They've already got their groups operating against Trump in the deep state, probably trying to send out some hit squads as well.
And we've got a little bit of an update on that with some private investigation that's ongoing in Pennsylvania into Thomas Crooks.
It's like more than we can get from our own government.
But that's where we're at.
And so now you have them sending terrorists to Tesla car factories or Tesla dealerships.
And they're breaking glass and attacking people and doing their normal protesting.
They'll probably start to target all of Musk's business with this.
But it's unfortunate that we can't have a rational conversation.
Because this idea that they're selling now, that Musk is bad, For exposing government waste, fraud, and abuse.
And then they're trying to combine it, which they've never had an issue before, but they're saying, oh, he's got all these government contracts and all these defense contracts and everything.
Okay.
Well, he's talked about that.
He's talked about transparency.
He's talked about not having a conflict of interest.
But okay, there's a fair concern there.
I would say there's a fair concern there.
One man or one entity having so much government involvement is certainly a concern.
And so, okay, I'm okay with that concern, but let's be honest.
Let's measure apples against apples here.
If Musk secures, which one of his companies, Starlink, did just secure a government contract, which, like, even that on its own, Should actually be commended,
but let's say Musk secures $500 billion of government contracts with SpaceX, Tesla, everything else he's got.
Neuralink, let's say he gets $500 billion of government contracts.
Okay, well, let's say he and his team at Doge expose...
$1 trillion worth of waste.
Do you see what I'm saying here?
So it's like, if you go to your boss, you say, I want a raise.
And this is how much I want for my raise.
And your boss says, well, why would I give you that raise?
And then you go out and you show your sales numbers or whatever field you're in and you say, here's the numbers I'm producing.
This is what I think I'm worse.
This is why I want a raise.
And the boss says, wow, yeah, that's actually a fair deal.
You get a raise.
Well, that's business.
That's how business goes.
So, yeah, Musk is going to expose a trillion dollars of waste, fraud, and abuse, and he's going to get government contracts.
But even on the Starlink contract, no complaining over Biden that didn't connect a single home to the Internet.
With that hundred million, whatever the final number was, I can't even remember the number.
Hundreds of millions of dollars in Joe Biden's Internet Act or whatever it was.
Hundreds of millions of dollars.
They didn't connect one house to the Internet.
Not a single individual was connected to the Internet.
Not a single Ethernet cable was laid.
Nothing.
Zero zilch nada.
Now, Musk gets Starlink, and you watch, they will connect people to the Internet, which they're already doing.
They're already doing it all over the world.
They're already doing it here.
So that's a government contract that will actually work.
That's a government contract that will actually have results.
And they're complaining about that.
See, Musk has a track record of getting results, whether you like them or not.
And if you've got problems with him getting all this power, fine, fair enough.
But let's compare apples to apples.
Joe Biden spent hundreds of millions of dollars on an internet deal that nobody got any internet off of.
Zero.
Nobody.
Musk's deal will connect people to the internet.
Musk and his companies have a track record of delivering.
Who's going up to space to save the stranded astronauts?
Not the government.
SpaceX.
So I get it.
Hey, you know.
One guy, one entity, you know, a lot of power, a lot of money going to it.
There's a problem there.
Okay, you know what?
Fine, that's fair.
But let's look at the results.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Was that $42 billion, guys?
Whose headline was that?
Yeah, $42 billion, Joe Biden, on an internet deal.
Nobody connected to the internet.
That's as bad of a deal as you can get.
Not a single liberal is complaining.
No big headlines, no big media push, nobody pressuring these contractors, but Musk's Starlink gets a deal, and it's, oh my gosh, this cannot be.
But see, I've got more from Doge exposing all the waste, fraud, and abuse, and this should be the biggest story of all time.
And it looks like to me, we'll see what happens, it looks like to me that they're going to find out, at least they're going to give us an idea, however they can, about where all the Ukraine aid went that's missing.
Now, there might not even be a chance since Congress voted against the oversight, but they're going to try to find it.
They're going to try to find that waste.
Just like they're going to find it in Social Security if they haven't already.
And they're going to say, and they're already printing the headlines, why do you think Musk is calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme?
Do you think he's just making that up?
No, he's already seen the proof.
He's already seen the raw data.
Now his team is going in there and figuring out exactly what it all means.
Now, there's some other significant clips of Musk and Rogan that we're going to play here as well, kind of explaining it.
But where do we come together on all of this?
If we can't, as Americans, come together on exposing all the waste, fraud, and abuse, if we, as Americans, can't come together and say, hey, we don't want $100 billion that's supposed to be Ukraine military aid getting stolen, laundered, looted, Then where do we go from here?
And the fake news, the propaganda press, as these leftists so brainwashed, they're out here protesting at Elon Musk's businesses, smashing windows and doing protests at Tesla dealerships.
So this is their new target now.
Now, I don't know if this was a strategy of Donald Trump, but it's working out brilliantly.
Because now Trump can kind of do his deals and manage the White House with a lot less resistance because the left is resisting Musk so hard now.
The deep state is resisting Musk so hard that Trump is kind of able to get in there and not have near as many obstacles as he did in his first administration.
So Musk is kind of getting all the bad press and all the attention while Trump is out there being the president.
Oh, but...
They're saying now, because Trump went golfing at Mar-a-Lago this weekend, which I came out last week and I said, good, Trump should golf at least once a week.
It's good for his health.
It's good to clear his mind and he's working hard, so I'm okay with that.
I actually am more than okay with it.
I'm actually supporting it.
It's good.
It's like therapeutic for men to play golf.
Get out there with nature.
You know, touch grass, as they say.
Just relax.
Slow things down.
But, you know, by the way, I do have a problem here.
Who is tipping these media members off to go photograph Trump golfing?
And I'm curious if they're not doing that to send a message.
Say, hey, look, we can go get a picture of Trump out here.
You know what I mean?
Hey, look, I can get a clear shot at Donald Trump for a picture.
See?
Take a look at this.
Kind of feels that way a little bit.
And Trump is just saying, screw him, I'm going golfing.
And then they come out and they say, what is wrong with Donald Trump?
Well, I don't know.
I mean, he's doing pretty good for, what is he, almost 80 now?
I'd say he's doing pretty good.
I hope I'm still golfing at 80. Could he lose a couple pounds?
I don't know, maybe.
unidentified
They say, oh my gosh, is he dying?
Does he?
They're saying he has a fake leg.
He has a prosthetic leg.
Look, he can barely walk.
owen shroyer
He just played 18 holes of golf.
Oh my God, what's wrong with Trump's legs?
Well, he's been kicking your ass for a month.
Legs are a little tired.
But these same people...
Remember this?
This was just a couple months ago.
This was just a couple months ago with Joe Biden.
Trying to walk on the beach in clip one.
And there were multiple videos of this.
Biden would go on these beach vacations.
Folks, Joe Biden literally couldn't even walk.
Remember, he fell over on his bike and all the other incidents.
I mean, here he is stumbling through the sand.
He can't even walk.
But they all ran cover.
They all ran cover for Joe Biden.
They said he was sharp as a tack.
The most fit president ever.
He was a genius.
All the other things.
The guy could barely even walk.
But now Trump goes and plays 18 holes of golf and I guess gets out of his golf cart.
Funny.
I don't even see what it is they're looking at.
And he's got a fake leg and he's dying and all the other things.
No.
No, his legs are a little sore from kicking your ass so much.
But he seems to be doing fine.
But I want to know who's cluing the media in on Trump's golf game so they can go out there and get a photo of it.
And honestly, I'd like to see Trump make a bigger deal of his golf game.
I'm not even being facetious.
I'm dead serious.
I kind of went all in on it last week and I said Trump should be golfing once a week or however often he can.
But now I'm to the point, they should actually make it a bigger deal.
And he should bring in like a celebrity or a pro golfer or something and like film it.
Or I guess his niece, Don Jr.'s daughter, is like a pro golfer.
She's like a rising social media star.
You could have her do some filming.
I would turn it into an event.
I'm dead serious.
I'd bring a celebrity.
I'd bring cameras.
I'd make it a whole event.
Now, he might not want to do that because that's kind of his moment of solace, but I'd just double down.
I'd just be like, yeah, I'm President Donald Trump.
I just came out here and shot a 75. Be like, good luck.
I mean, the guy shoots regularly in the 70s and the 80s, folks.
That is...
Hard to do, let alone when you're almost 80 years old and the President of the United States, and he's out there doing it regularly.
That's impressive.
That's impressive.
Good luck.
Good luck anybody listening to this going out and shooting an 80. Good luck.
So that's, I just doubled out, and just let him fume and go crazy over his golf game.
But that's just kind of an aside.
So here's looking at some of the savings.
Trump administration cutting 90% of USAID foreign aid contracts.
Documents show it's been $2 billion.
Trump administration successfully stopped $2 billion of foreign aid payments to contractors.
It's a multi-billion dollar honeypot and they're shutting it down.
House Doge subcommittee chair Marjorie Taylor Greene threatens criminal referrals over foreign aid spending.
Well, they're eventually going to be able to audit all of this.
Honestly, Doge is moving at such a rapid, efficient pace that it's kind of making everybody else look bad, to be honest.
It's making really everybody else look bad, actually.
Doge is moving so...
Rapidly and efficiently, it's like nobody is even in the same realm.
And it's with 20-year-old college students that like to crack jokes about big balls.
Makes you wonder what the hell's going on.
But I think this stuff, to me, at this point, I'm looking at the track record of everything going on, and I'm looking at Doge, and I'm thinking, I'm like full faith in Doge right now.
Doge has done...
I don't think there's anything Doge has done that hasn't worked or been proven right.
So when they talk about Social Security being a Ponzi scheme, I'm all in.
I'm like, yep, I'll bet all in on that.
When they talk about we're going to find out where the Ukrainian military aid went, how it got laundered, all in.
I'm betting all in.
Yep.
Now, if somebody comes up to me and they say, hey...
Pam Bondi's going to give me the Epstein documents.
Nope, not touching that.
Not betting on that.
Nope, not putting a penny in that pot.
But, hey, Doge is going to come in here and show the kickbacks.
Betting all in.
Can't bet it soon enough.
That's where I'm at now.
By the way, we do have sound from Marjorie Taylor Greene talking about the foreign aid slush funds.
We'll play that a little bit later.
Musk's Starlink's Get FAA contract raising new conflict of interest concerns at CNN. I'm okay with that concern, actually.
I'm fine with that concern.
It's good to have that concern.
We don't want any individual having too much power, but I've got to look at results, and Musk is giving more results than anybody else right now.
Not even close.
You've got Donald Trump, and then, I mean, really, what do you got?
You've got people in the independent press, like Infowars, delivering.
Nobody delivering like Musk right now.
Love him, hate him, got other problems with him, whatever, concerns for the future, that's fine.
Nobody's delivering like Musk.
It's not even close.
I'm all in.
Anything Musk, Doge, or his company's doing, I'm like, I'm all in.
I like winning bets.
That's what I like.
This is like a winning bet.
But again, take a look at all the numbers.
All the numbers, because it's all about results.
All the numbers.
Say, oh my gosh, look at this number Musk is getting.
Compare the FAA contract that Musk is going to get for Starlink to the $42 billion Biden contract that didn't connect anyone to the internet.
There is no comparison.
Compare the amount of funds.
That Doge is going to save the federal government compared to the amount of funds that the federal government is going to pay to Musk's companies.
There is no comparison.
Musk is saving the government more money than he's taking in.
Those are the results.
You want to see some of this?
You want to hear about some of this?
Doge.
Today the NIH canceled grants for around...
$11 million, including $1.7 million for the China Health and Retirement Longitudinal Study at Peking University in Beijing, China.
Did you want to fund that?
Did you mean to fund that?
unidentified
Were you thinking about that when you worked and paid taxes?
owen shroyer
$135,000 for a research grant to China Medical University.
$142,000 using telehealth to improve access to gender-affirming care.
Affirming care, which of course is gender-rejecting care.
$1.3 million for transforming health for gender-diverse young adults.
We're just making things up now.
Transforming health for gender-diverse young adults.
That's like a comedy bit.
That's like, hey, let's make fun of the left.
What can we come up with that sounds stupid but ridiculous but believable?
Transforming health for gender-diverse young adults.
Brilliant!
That's the problem.
You can't even tell the difference.
The left is so bat crap crazy.
It's hard to tell the difference between reality and parody with these people.
120,000 for personalized 3D avatar tool development focused on gender identities.
It's more gender, gender, gender.
400,000 for researching sources of minority stress and alcohol consumption.
Yes.
Among adults.
Who report uncertainty about their sexual orientation.
What?
In the hell?
Who comes up with this stuff?
Sources of minority stress and alcohol consumption.
Sources.
Among adults who report uncertainty about their sexual orientation.
Think about where we're at here.
So where do we start?
You're an adult.
Yes.
Are you uncertain of your sexual orientation?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Are you a minority?
Yes.
What stresses you?
unidentified
Yes.
owen shroyer
Do you consume alcohol?
Yes.
$400,000.
$160,000 for researching racialized sexual discrimination among young, sexual minority men of color.
unidentified
What does that mean?
owen shroyer
Young, sexual minority men of color?
unidentified
I'm sexy.
I'm too sexy for my shirt.
Too sexy for the car wash.
owen shroyer
I'm too sexy.
Government contract.
Young sexual minority men of color.
What does that mean?
Seriously, what is that?
Just like another word for black faggots?
Trying to figure this out here, folks.
A quarter of a million dollars.
For an intervention to promote healthy relationships among transgender and gender-expansive youth.
Gender-expansive youth.
Would you like to go down that path?
Of gender-expansive youth.
Huh.
Well, I've only got 30 seconds to the break, and quite frankly, I'd rather not.
So that's $11 million.
That Doge is saving the federal government from...
What are we saving it here?
Here we go.
Yeah, yeah.
Transgender, expansive youth, racialized sexual discrimination, young sexual minority men of color.
I mean, how will we survive, folks?
How are you going to survive not knowing?
About young sexual minority men of color.
Will you be able to make it through the day?
Now, I've got some follow-ups here.
It's all in this stack.
I'm going to try to cover it all this segment.
The situation with Pam Bondi and the Epstein files that weren't.
And she's continuing to run cover.
And she went back on Fox News.
So she's done, you know, like eight Fox News hits.
And no files.
But she'll continue to go on Fox.
So that's, I guess, what really matters.
So we'll have more on that.
But I like smart bets, folks.
I like smart bets.
And if I did gamble on sports, I'd only want to make winning bets.
I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
So when I see Elon Musk come out over the weekend and say, time to find out what really happened to the hundreds of billions of dollars sent to Ukraine, that tells me there's a plan in place and somebody's going to follow up.
And I think in retrospect, that meeting at the Oval Office, I went back and watched it again.
And there's two things to me that are apparent.
Trump and Vance knew they had the upper hand, obviously.
But even more so...
With all these people crying, like there was this video of this man crying about how Zelensky got treated, and I'll revisit that later.
It's not the most pressing issue, but there's a point to be made.
But Trump and Vance not only knew they obviously had the upper hand, but I think that whatever belief there was, That Zelensky was acting with good intentions or whatever belief there was that even the money and the aid going to Ukraine was going to be used for good reasons or with good reason.
I think that that was all gone.
I think all of that was lost and Trump and Vance knew it heading into that meeting and that's why things turned so quickly on a dime.
But if you notice, it really, the whole thing, the whole attitude changed in the Oval Office.
When Zelensky said, you better do what I say, or you're going to be in this war, and you're going to be feeling it, and Russia's going to attack you.
And as soon as he said that, it was like, boom.
Trump flipped the switch and said, oh, really, you little bitch?
Oh, really, you little punk ass?
And remember, he says, no, you're not going to tell us how to feel.
You're not going to tell us what we're feeling.
You're not going to tell us what's going to happen.
And then the whole thing changed.
And then Vance piled on, and then Trump piled back on, and then the media piled on, and then Zelensky got kicked out.
But I'm saying I think that they already knew.
We already know the money got stolen.
It's really a matter of can we trace it or not.
Musk, to me, insinuating like he's going to try.
Or he's got somebody working on it that's going to try.
But there's this video that's coming out of Ukraine that I think is worth viewing.
And it shows, it looks like a popping nightclub or a popping spot somewhere in Kiev, which is where all these clubs are bumping right now.
Kiev is doing very well.
Kiev is just booming.
Massive expansion right now.
Mostly kind of social life, nightlife stuff.
And is there anything you notice about this video?
Just upon first glance here.
Well, it's a ratio about...
Eight women, out of every ten people, about eight women.
Now that is not a typical ratio when you talk about a nightlife or any place you go.
If you go out, if you're a guy and you're going out and you're looking to meet a woman or see women or flirt with women, then you're like happy if it's a 50-50 ratio.
That's like as good as you're going to get is a 50-50 ratio.
But in Kiev, it's 8 to 2. Where are all the men?
Where are all the men?
Now, if you go back in time, about three years ago, because we played these videos, and the crew is all over it right now, and they're showing other videos from Ukraine, Kiev nightclubs, but it's like, it's all women.
But if you go back three years ago...
Some of these similar videos from Kiev, it actually had men and women.
Well, they're almost out of men to go fight, and now some of the men in Kiev are having to go fight.
But so now all these videos you see coming out of Kiev, it's 8 out of 10 are women because all the men are now going to fight and dying.
And, you know, there's this whole thing now of, because they've run out of reasons, they've run out of different...
Communication methods to get you to support Ukraine.
And they say, hey, if you want to, because it's perfectly reasonable, really, if you want to fight so bad, you go fight.
And so now the left is saying, and Democrats are saying, and even neocons are saying, well, that's not a fair argument.
As now the crew has the Ukrainian men being put into squad cars to go forced to fight.
It's like, oh yeah, you think you're going to win a war with people that don't even want to fight?
Of course not.
But maybe you've seen it in some of the neocon press and Democrat Party talking points, propaganda press.
They're saying, if you want to support this country or whatever, then you need to go fight.
You go fight.
That's not legitimate reasoning.
That's not legitimate logic.
That's not how these things work.
Actually, for most of human history, that's how it worked.
For most of human history, that's actually exactly how it works.
If you were a king and you wanted to declare war, you got on your horse and you rode in front of the men.
If you were a general, whatever the case may be, if you were one of the people that wanted to fight and wanted the war, you went out there and you actually were in the fight and in the war.
You weren't in an ivory tower.
You weren't in a political building.
You weren't in the mainstream media.
You were out there actually fighting.
Now, in the modern age, when most wars are not even necessary, most wars are just banker wars or other political wars or money laundering operations, just other rackets.
We don't really have to go to war for resources or land as much anymore, thanks to modern technology and advancements and infrastructure and globalization, really.
So now most wars are just a racket.
Most wars are just political.
Most wars are just banker wars.
So now they use propaganda to trick you.
Now they use false flag attacks to trick you.
And for you to go fight something that's not really your fight.
So that's the modern war.
For most of human history, if you were calling for a war, if you were going to fight a war, you had to be a noble, respected man.
And if you weren't out there, at least...
On the front lines, some of the time, then nobody respected you and nobody was going to go fight your war.
So this argument where they're saying, just because somebody's not going to fight doesn't mean they can't support the war.
Okay.
So they're desperate, folks.
I think, you know, what I think needs to happen?
I'm partly joking, but not really.
And this might end up happening just because of necessity.
I think we should not only be absconding with the resources from Ukraine in this rare earth mineral deal.
I think that we should be, they should be shipping their women over here for our men as well.
And even though I'm a bit facetious.
That is likely actually going to happen.
There will probably be websites, just like there are for other countries.
But I'd say there will soon be websites, maybe when the war ends, there'll be websites of Ukrainian women looking for men, and they'll be looking for American men.
Because there's no men left in Ukraine.
Because this war killed them all, and Zelensky's the hero.
These women are going to be looking.
For men.
And they're not in Ukraine anymore.
Now, here's Tulsi Gabbard talking about Ukraine and Zelensky in clip four.
tulsi gabbard
Here is something that the political establishment and propaganda media don't want you to know.
Ukraine's President Zelensky has just banned yet another political opposition party, one that questioned his legitimacy as president, and used Ukraine's Department of Justice to mandate the seizure of this party's members' assets.
Now, this is just the latest of Zelensky's actions to do this sort of thing.
He began banning major political opposition parties in 2022, when he also started banning TV channels that were associated with his political opponents.
And he took over total control of Ukraine's largest television networks, now controlled by their government.
Zelensky's presidential term ended on May 20th.
He canceled elections in the name of martial law, suspending Ukraine's constitution so that he could stay in power.
Defenders of Zelensky will say, hey, Ukraine is in the middle of a war.
They can't have elections.
Just stop for a moment and think, if we accept that excuse or criteria for suspending the Constitution and canceling elections, then we should presume that leaders in our own country and our own establishment media will also use this same excuse and rationale when they suspend our Constitution and our elections, since we too are at war with Russia and China.
If you think this sounds crazy, look at what's already going on.
They've already started conditioning us to accept a dictatorship by rationalizing their own use of our Department of Justice to target President Trump and other political enemies in their efforts to stay in power.
owen shroyer
Now, what's so important there, it goes back to, I guess you could say one of my catchphrases, if I have catchphrases, it's, if it can't be applied universally, it's not logic, it's propaganda.
So, that same logic in Ukraine is not going to be applied anywhere else.
Well, sure, of course, Zelensky cancels elections.
Of course, Zelensky censors his political opposition.
Well, where else would that logic be accepted?
Nowhere.
Putin did that, he'd be a dictator.
If Trump did that, he'd be a dictator.
If Bolsonaro did that, he'd be a dictator, and so on and so forth.
But, oh, it's okay for Zelensky.
And, of course, why do they spread that propaganda?
Because that's where they're laundering the money.
That's where they're laundering the weapons.
So Tulsi Gabbard gets it.
If it can't be applied universally, it's not logic.
It's propaganda.
Now, Senator Mike Lee is quickly becoming one of my favorite senators, and he was just on fire all weekend, pumping out awesome posts, warning the country about how bad NATO is for our safety, I would say, is the best way to put it.
So Zelensky...
Tucks his tail between his legs, exits the White House, and goes back to Europe begging for money.
And he gets $2 billion.
Wow.
Hey, good for him.
Somebody will steal that money, too.
$2 billion from Europe.
And they're celebrating it?
And they're doing these big press conferences and shaking hands and having a big ceremony over $2 billion.
We gave them hundreds of billions of dollars, and we were told that wasn't enough.
Then he goes and secures $2 billion from Europe, and it's like, we're all saved.
unidentified
Well, how the hell does that work?
owen shroyer
Because it's just money laundering.
So Mike Lee has been clamoring for America to get out of NATO, never as much as he was this weekend.
And now they're saying, well, we need to bring Ukraine into NATO.
Mike Lee says, do you realize bringing Ukraine into NATO would start World War III?
Now, there's different interpretations of the NATO bylaws where if one country gets attacked, then all the countries get attacked.
And so, therefore, the United States has an obligation in the NATO treaty to defend whoever it is that's getting attacked or enter the war.
Again, there's different legal interpretations of the treaty.
I don't want to take the chance.
We need to get out of NATO now.
We cannot get out of NATO fast enough.
Like yesterday.
Like a week ago.
Otherwise, the situation is ripe for a false flag to drag the United States back into this deal.
We need out of NATO now.
And I will tell you, it's very likely NATO will just completely collapse as European countries are already talking about forming a new thing outside of NATO. And you watch.
Just like, oh, the United States gives hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine and it's not enough.
But then Europe gives $2 billion to Ukraine and we're all saved.
And it'll be the same thing.
Whatever new little thing that they form to replace NATO when America leaves, let's hope, it'll be a quarter of the money, it'll be a fraction of the money, and they'll say, wow, this is the greatest thing ever.
They were just stealing our money the entire time, folks.
unidentified
How about this?
owen shroyer
You see this pie chart in my hand?
We can dock him it.
I mean, let's get the HD. You're looking at this pie chart.
You can clearly see something, which is that, wow, what is that navy blue that makes up the vast majority of this pie chart?
Well, this is the NATO spending by country.
NATO spending by country.
And who is it that makes up the vast majority of this pie chart?
Well, that would be us, the United States of America, who's not even in Europe.
Who's not even in the landmass known as Europe.
In fact, we fought a war so that we wouldn't have to be.
And we make up 70% of NATO spending.
More than every other country combined.
And now they want us to put our blood in there as well.
Because our treasure wasn't enough.
We need to pull out of NATO immediately.
And you watch.
Everything else will fall into place for peace.
Everything else.
If they can't spend U.S. money, they're not interested in spending money.
If they can't put U.S. bodies on the line, they're not going to put their own bodies on the line.
You watch, folks.
You watch.
And everybody knows it.
That's why it can't happen soon enough.
And then Senator Lee also put up a poll.
Last I checked, it had 32,000 voters, 92% saying we should leave NATO. I hope Musk puts out a follow-up poll that'll get hundreds of millions of votes, probably.
And it'll be the same result, but it'll be the vast majority of Americans want us out of NATO. And we need to get out of NATO before they false flag and blame Russia and drag us into this war.
I'm done.
The American people are done.
You've been stealing our money for far too long.
We don't need you.
You do nothing for us.
We don't need NATO. And we don't want to get involved in your wars.
And we're done with you laundering and stealing our money.
And using the United States as this political body armor.
We're done.
We are done.
But gee, I mean, oh my gosh, can you imagine?
Can you imagine a Trump administration that actually has an agenda for peace and they hate him for it?
The left is now full-on pro-war.
It's incredible.
Hey, go fight the war.
That's not how it works.
That's exactly how it works.
That's exactly how it works.
You want the war so bad?
Go fight it.
That's been the logic for the majority of human history.
Only until recently, where wars were fought for rackets and money laundering and banker wars, did that change so that the politicians can sit up in their ivory towers and send the poor to go fight their wars.
They don't need to get dirty because they don't actually care.
Back to Doge.
Oh, but see, but they hate Musk for all of this.
Yesterday, agencies canceled 128 contracts for about $60 million of savings.
Total terminations of wasteful contracts has now surpassed 3,000 since Doge inception.
This included a $3.5 million consulting contract for larval fish monitoring that the Bureau of Reclamation identified as non-essential.
You don't say.
Tell me, who was in charge of monitoring the larval fish?
Probably a pretty good job.
At three and a half million dollars, you're probably making pretty nice bank to what?
Stare at a fish?
Do we have any videos of this?
What did I get for this?
Is it a rainbow fish?
What is so great about this fish?
And who's monitoring it?
Who's getting paid to monitor it?
Did we need to monitor?
Could we have just videotaped it?
Is any of this necessary at all?
Who's getting the kickback in a $3.5 million larval fish monitoring contract?
Is that your larval fish, guys?
Put on some scuba gear and go to the bottom of the ocean.
You can monitor fish all you want.
Not on the U.S. taxpayer dime.
$3.5 million for larval fish monitoring.
Oh, man.
That Elon Musk and does.
How dare they?
I wanted that larval fish.
I will fight for that larval fish.
Well, we're not done.
U.S. taxpayer dollars were going to be spent on the following items, all of which have been canceled.
$60 million for indigenous peoples and Afro-Colombian empowerment.
Good Lord.
$74 million for inclusive justice in Colombia.
Inclusive justice.
unidentified
We wouldn't want exclusive justice.
owen shroyer
$79 million for primary literacy in Kenya.
So, you have blacks graduating in...
Cities like Baltimore that aren't even literate when they graduate high school, and we can't fix that.
But Africans in Kenya, we're going to make sure they can read.
So our own high school graduates can't read, but let's make sure the Kenyans can read.
Great.
Again, who's getting the kickback from that?
$37 million for female empowerment in Colombia.
Got to empower those females.
Females are just not empowered.
Have you noticed that?
Females, there's no empowerment, there's just no power.
We just need to give them some money.
$8 million to reduce stigma, discrimination, and violence against, guess who?
The LGBTQI plus communities in Lesotho.
Do you think that works, guys?
Do you think that $8 million delivered for us there?
It's very important.
$3.3 million for, quote, Being LGBTQI in the Caribbean.
Who's getting that deal?
So you're saying you just have to be LGBTQI in the Caribbean and you get three and a half million dollars from the government?
That dirty Musk.
unidentified
How dare Musk cancel that contract?
How dare big balls go in there and cancel the contract for being gay in the Caribbean?
Damn it, big balls!
owen shroyer
$25,000 to increase vegan local climate action innovation in Zambia.
I can't even focus on that.
unidentified
I've got $3.5 million for being gay in the Caribbean, and big balls stopped it.
owen shroyer
I was going to be that gay.
So now they're running around at Tesla dealerships and engaging in terroristic acts like you can see here in clip 15. And they say they're Doge protesters.
Yeah.
They're popping up everywhere.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, no, no.
know, start with the volume so you can hear how deranged people are.
So these people are obviously mentally ill, highly deranged.
And hate crimes shouldn't even exist.
There shouldn't be even the concept of a hate crime.
But, I mean, how is this not a hate crime?
They're obviously targeting Musk with a hate crime.
I mean, so this is terrorism, this is hate crimes.
But, oh, because they're liberals, because they're leftists, and they're empowered by the Democrat Party and the mainstream media propaganda, then it's okay.
It's okay for them to engage in terrorism.
It's okay for them to do a hate crime.
As long as you're a liberal, those laws don't apply to you.
What are you against?
I'm against them stopping government waste, fraud, and abuse.
What?
That's what they're protesting.
That is literally what they're protesting.
And they're going to keep it up.
So this is their new thing.
This is their new thing, and they're going to continue to target Musk's businesses.
It's mostly going to be happening in blue cities.
This isn't going to happen in red areas.
It's unlikely.
But Musk's businesses and anything Tesla in a blue city, watch out.
They're coming.
They're organizing, they're funding, and they are coming.
They don't know why, but they're there, and they're going to bash windows, and they're going to spew their hatred, and they're going to parrot their propaganda.
Absolutely insane.
All right, we got more on this coming up.
We got studio guest, January 6th prisoner, Stuart Rhodes, coming up as well.
We'll be right back.
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All right, quickly.
Well, you know what?
I need to combine that, so I'm not going to have time for that.
unidentified
So...
owen shroyer
Let's listen to this sad thing in clip 16. Listen to this.
They're protesting the deportations of illegal immigrants.
Listen to what this young girl says, clip 16. Through TikTok, do you think there's going to be more protests like this?
unidentified
Yes, I hope so.
You hope so?
You'll be going?
Yeah, we're going to be going, me and my friend, because we're here also, because we're both minorities, you know, she's lesbian and I'm Hispanic, so we're just fighting for basic human rights out here.
owen shroyer
Alright, so, do you see what the left has done here, folks?
They've put everybody into these boxes.
They've put everybody into these different identity politic boxes.
So you have all your own issues.
You're in this little box over here.
It's this little niche group.
It's like less than 1% of the population.
But everybody's in these little boxes, these little niche boxes, and it's your cause, your concern, that's the biggest thing.
You're gay, you're this color, whatever, you're a minority.
So she says, oh, well, I'm a gay minority.
So therefore, what?
Well, so therefore, I have to be out here protesting against deportation of criminals.
So that's all they've done, is they've put all these little boxes, identity politics boxes, and shoved people into them, and then they said, but you're all under attack, so you all must stand together.
But see, none of it actually benefits them, and none of it has anything to do with politics.
But they have them dazed and confused out there fighting against criminal deportations.
All right, no time to get friendly here with Stuart Rhodes in the break because we're on air and we're just trying to catch up as we've known each other a long time.
I just figure, hey, we can talk about our prison experience right here, right here for all the people to hear.
Now, of course...
stewart rhodes
Don't tell about prison stuff, right?
owen shroyer
Well, I don't think that's the policy anymore.
And, you know, I think what we really have is a chance because we'll get into some of the stuff that you saw and then some of the political issues that you're dealing with now, but...
I think we have a real chance to, now that conservatives have had to go through the process of the rigged courts, the rigged justice system, all of it, we really do need law reform, criminal justice reform, Bureau of Prisons reform.
It's an issue, I think, that we can finally properly communicate to people because the left has owned it for so long.
The left can't really fix anything.
Sometimes they can identify a problem.
I'll give them that.
Every once in a while they can identify a problem, but then usually their fix is worse than the problem already was.
unidentified
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
What is the D.C. jail?
One of the worst jails in the country, and that's a left-dominated area.
And nothing was done.
In fact, I ran into a black local journalist who had covered the jail for over a decade, and she said nothing was done to fix that until the J6ers were in there.
owen shroyer
Wow.
But did they end up fixing anything?
stewart rhodes
They did.
It got better.
So a lot of the inmates there have told me, like I saw the same guys at Cumberland, Maryland, A lot of them are from D.C. They said, hey man, we thank you guys for being there because after you, things got better.
The food got better, their conditions got better, their treatment got better.
Still know where it should be, but better than it was.
owen shroyer
So Stuart Rhodes, our guest in studio, founder of Oath Keepers.
And really, I mean, you were probably, I mean, I don't know how you would even rank, but I mean, you were one of their most targeted individuals when it came to the game.
stewart rhodes
Number two, yeah, pretty much.
owen shroyer
You would say number two?
stewart rhodes
Well, I mean, it's me and Enrique Tarrio.
So I was person one in all the indictments for the Oath Keepers, and Enrique Tarra was the top target for the indictments for the Proud Boys.
And the whole goal was to have everybody beneath us testify against us, and they did.
Some guys did roll over and testify.
Others were offered a chance to go home.
Like Kelly Meggs was offered a chance to go home if he would say that I told him to go in the Capitol.
And he wouldn't do that to his honor.
He went to trial.
You know, Kelly Meggs, Jessica Watkins, Kennedy Harrelson, they're all honorable people.
And the same goes for the Proud Boys.
Joe Biggs wouldn't take a deal.
Don Pozzola would not take a deal.
But sadly, we're among the 14 now who did not take deals and went to trial that got a commutation rather than a pardon.
owen shroyer
Well, we're hoping to fix that.
And we had Joe Biggs on last week because that's something...
and you know i think everybody's situation is different how much of the benefits that you're relying on you know health care whatever all wiped out though but really it shouldn't matter it's the principle to me right absolutely right do you want to expand on that for a second because i think people it's a very important thing for people to understand the difference here because you didn't get the pardon there's some things that are a little bit more difficult for those especially veterans that didn't get the full pardon that just got the sentence commuted
stewart rhodes
Right, so commutation means that you're still a convicted felon.
So I'm still a convicted seditionist.
So is Joe Biggs and all the rest of the guys.
So we can't own firearms.
Here in Texas, I can't vote.
And I've had all my rights as a veteran stripped from me.
I'm a service-connected disabled veteran.
I got a letter from the VA. This is while I'm in solitary.
I get a letter from the VA saying that all your benefits are wiped out and you can no longer be buried in a veteran's cemetery when you die, which is like the ultimate insult to a veteran.
So it really pissed me off.
owen shroyer
Yeah, like even in your grave, they give one last spit on you.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
And so I know that all of us have got the same position.
Joe Biggs, Pozzola, I believe Ethan, I think Ethan Wardeen's also a veteran.
unidentified
So...
stewart rhodes
And my co-defendant, Kenneth Harrelson and Watkins, are both Army veterans.
owen shroyer
I know that Condemned USA has done a lot of work in helping the January 6th defendants.
stewart rhodes
That's why I'm working for them now.
owen shroyer
So have they kind of...
Pivoted now to getting those benefits restored to the veterans?
stewart rhodes
Absolutely.
So I'm now the National Spokesman for Condemned USA, and they're on that because it was founded by, you know, Trent himself, a J6-er.
So they're working hard to get us all the pardons, all 14 of us.
And my feeling on that is all of us are none of us.
I don't want to leave anyone behind.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and I think that there should be a, you know, there's so much going on right now, it's hard to pick which pressure point to provide on.
So if you can kind of have a...
Consolidated effort on that to kind of put that pressure point.
Now, do you guys have any idea how it went down?
Does anybody know how it went down that you guys got not the full pardon?
stewart rhodes
Don't know.
I mean, my best guess is that some lawyers in Trump's circle advocated that that be done for some reason.
Probably for politics, I imagine.
So it makes no rhyme or reason.
Because, as I told Alex earlier, there were two oath-keepers, Josh James and Todd Wilson, who pled guilty.
To seditious conspiracy.
owen shroyer
As part of a plea?
stewart rhodes
Yes.
We're all threatening life in prison.
I sent a letter saying we're going to seek life imprisonment.
That scared them.
And they agreed.
Life imprisonment or make a deal is what it said.
We have so many days to make a deal.
And I just threw mine in the toilet.
I flushed mine down the toilet.
That's where it belongs.
There's no freaking way.
But some guys get scared.
And they rolled over and agreed to plead guilty to seditious conspiracy.
And they agreed to sign on to a stack of lies against me.
That I told them all to go inside the Capitol and plan since November.
owen shroyer
And they didn't even care.
Like, they didn't have to present any evidence of that because there is no evidence of that.
stewart rhodes
They make the allegation.
That's what they do.
So, as President Trump said in his Meet the Press interview, I know the system.
It's a nasty system.
They tell a guy two years or 30 years, you take a plea deal.
So, in this case, life imprisonment or make a deal and go home.
And they made a deal and they were set free.
Never saw a day in jail.
I'm held in pretrial, you know, solitary confinement for over a year.
Pre and during my trial and after trial.
These guys never saw a day in prison.
And then the judge in December of 2024 finally sentenced them and sentenced them to probation only.
And yet, they got pardons.
That makes no sense.
owen shroyer
Well, and I think that there's more evidence that that's what was going on too.
And everybody was kind of in on it because in my case, I did take the deal.
I think, I don't remember what the numbers were, but I think I was facing like two years in prison because they always overcharge.
And so I basically took the deal, and I did cooperate.
The difference was, you know, I wasn't part of Proud Boys or Oath Keepers.
There was nobody I could turn on.
I guess they expected me to turn on Alex, but the thing was, there was nothing.
But what happened was, when I took the plea deal, and they told me I wouldn't go to prison.
Of course, they lied about that.
But, you know, I was facing like two years.
I took the plea deal, and we were supposed to knock at any time.
And they said, okay, we just want to see all your electronic data.
And we want you to sit down for a question session.
And so before anything even happened, somebody goes to the press.
Schroyer's turned on Jones.
He's selling out Jones.
It's all over.
And of course, I didn't even have to talk to Alex about any of this because he understood what was going on and he knew he was innocent anyway.
But I was like, whoa.
It's actually the exact opposite.
I'm turning over.
I turned over multiple cell phones, emails, anything they asked for to show that there was nothing there.
stewart rhodes
They don't care, though.
owen shroyer
But it just shows it's like, no, that was the agenda.
It was like, hey, we're going to put the stress test.
We're going to get people to flip.
And so that's what happened.
Unfortunately, you had people that lied.
unidentified
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
So I haven't got a problem with guys that pled out like you did, pled out because they don't want to go to prison for years and they just hang themselves out.
That's different.
I'm talking about the guys that then agreed to test a lie against somebody else bearing false witness, which is a sin.
owen shroyer
Well, maybe that's why they did send me to prison.
Because I didn't bear false witness.
stewart rhodes
Right.
If you'd have gone all the way and betrayed Alex and said that he told you to go do something, they can get him, you would have gone home too, I'm sure.
That's their pattern.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
The guys that cooperated, it's like Ron Paul said, truth is treason, an empire of lies.
Well, lies are loyalty.
If you're willing to lie to hang other people on the hook, then they'll reward you.
You'll get no jail time.
That's right.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I guess that is how it went down, because the proof is in the pudding now that we're hearing all of these stories.
Now, what was your treatment like?
I've spoken to so many January Sixers since then, even here on the show, talking about the treatment.
What was your treatment like?
You spent a lot of time in solitary.
Did they travel you around the country?
stewart rhodes
Yeah, I was in Texas, then Oklahoma for two months.
That was pretty rough because there it was, you know, you're in a cell.
You got to get cuffed to walk out of your cell to go shower.
You get cuffed again, come back to your cell.
You're always cuffed and chained up the whole time.
It was just ridiculous.
Then from there to Alexandria Jail.
That's what the Proud Boys had kept also.
We were kept in different units.
We couldn't.
We'd see each other in transit sometimes.
I'd see Joe Biggs or Dominic Pozzola in transit.
You know, we'd crack jokes.
Got to keep your humor up.
You know, I saw bees in transit.
owen shroyer
And this is when you guys are in your trial and they're holding you.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, pre-trial.
I never had access to a law library.
That's something that was erroneously reported that I had access to.
That's not true at all.
Never had access.
So the excuse was COVID-19.
Oh, the law library is still shut down because of COVID. So never, I mean, I'm a law graduate, but I can't look up any case law for my own case, for my own defense.
Absolutely ridiculous.
So, you know, kept in a six by nine.
Concrete box the whole time.
owen shroyer
Plus, when you're in trial, you don't really get...
Some people don't understand.
When you're being held while you're in trial, you don't really get...
Access is totally different.
In that situation, you're treated a lot worse, whereas once you finish your trial and you get actually into the Fed, now you actually can get access to the library and you have normal movements.
When you're being held pre-trial, you don't get any of that.
stewart rhodes
No, especially when you're being held in solitary confinement.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, you get nothing.
So yes, things are better.
Once I was convicted, I did six weeks in the hole in D.C. I don't know why they did that.
They've never given me a reason why.
I filed a formal complaint and said, why am I in here?
And the only response was, is there is a valid reason for you to be in there.
That's all they said.
They wouldn't tell me what it was.
It's just punishment.
So then I went to Cumberland, Maryland, the FCI I was at, Medium Prison.
Actually a pretty good place.
Good food.
I was treated pretty well there.
But yeah, pretrial attention was far worse than the actual prison.
owen shroyer
So they have you in a medium.
stewart rhodes
I had camp points.
Like sevens, my points.
Zero priors.
So I actually had camp points.
So the judge imposed a management variable to keep me in a medium and close to D.C., far away from my family.
owen shroyer
Did they ever transfer you down?
stewart rhodes
No, never did.
owen shroyer
Yeah, you learn about all this.
This is kind of prison lingo about the point system and everything.
stewart rhodes
I could have applied for a lower to go somewhere else, but I waited on that because I wanted to see what would happen with the pardon.
owen shroyer
Well, what's funny about that, too, it's kind of ironic how it all works.
The mediums are usually run better than the lows as far as, like, management is concerned.
Like, there's a better structure of management when you're at the mediums.
Yeah, I was at a low.
And then you get to the low and it kind of turns into like a high school cafeteria level of management.
It's just kind of like whacked up.
And you really, it's like impossible to get anything done.
There were guys that were in the prison with me.
One who was in some RICO case that they actually, all the other defendants won at the Supreme Court.
They won their case.
He was sitting in that prison for months after winning his case.
Couldn't get out after winning his case.
He's sitting in there, he won the case.
And they can't even process them out.
stewart rhodes
Like the J6s who were pardoned and then they still walk them out.
owen shroyer
Exactly.
stewart rhodes
Same thing.
owen shroyer
It's crazy when you realize this stuff is going on.
That's why I talk about prison reform.
What were some of the other things that you realized?
Because to me, the one big thing I try to emphasize to people is when you're in that courtroom, if you want to understand how the system is rigged, go through it.
stewart rhodes
Right.
owen shroyer
Go through it.
Sit in that courtroom and realize when you're on the wrong side of that triangle, here's the judge.
Here's the prosecutors.
Here's you.
And you realize justice never comes in the equation?
Yeah.
You get a real sense of how badly we need justice reform.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, it's a horror show.
The grand jury, starting out, the grand jury indicts you without you even knowing it's happening.
You're not allowed to present any witnesses.
You're not allowed to confront any of your accusers.
So the initiation of this process starts with a foregone conclusion.
Like the old saying goes, a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich.
Well, a modern leftist grand jury will indict a Trump sandwich.
A Trump hat.
Orange man, bad.
Orange man, bad.
Followers, all bad.
So out of the gate, you're put on that conveyor belt of the machine without any, you know, there's no doubt you're going to get on that machine.
And once you're on the conveyor belt and you're going through the machine to the grinder, you're screwed.
That's what's going to happen to you.
I just refused to ever plead guilty to something I did not do or turn on anybody else.
It's not going to happen.
But I knew I was going to be found guilty.
There's no way you're going to get a fair trial in D.C. Yeah, you figured it out.
owen shroyer
You figured it out real quick.
And they know, see, because they get into your mind with it, too.
And that's how they're able to get so many pleas.
But that's the problem is you realize it's never about justice.
The prosecutors, it's all about conviction rate.
It's not about justice.
It's about conviction rate.
And then the judge, it's about incarceration.
They've got to fill those prisons.
stewart rhodes
And in the context of J6, it's about the false narrative.
That's the problem with anyone that plot out.
The dark side of that is that it will be used to further the narrative.
Oh, look, another one has admitted guilt.
Like when the guy said, yeah, we did seditious conspiracy.
Two Oath Keepers have pled guilty and acknowledged they were in a plot.
That helps further the false narrative.
So that's bad enough, but then they go ahead and agree to lie.
It's even worse.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and then it becomes a problem, too, where, and it really just shows that it's all screwed up, but you could be in a better position than me now since you did go to trial.
stewart rhodes
Am I in a better position?
owen shroyer
Because you can actually appeal it and do all this stuff, whereas when you plea, then they kind of look at you like, no, you already pled.
stewart rhodes
That's true, but I'm not going to get any relief from the Court of Appeals.
owen shroyer
It shouldn't matter either way.
stewart rhodes
I don't care about an appeal.
Because I know the D.C. Court of Appeals is not going to rule in my favor.
They're going to rule against me.
My only possible chance would be at the Supreme Court of the United States.
And that's discretionary review.
They don't even have to hear the case.
I just want to be pardoned.
owen shroyer
Do you think...
So for you, the final level of justice is a pardon?
Yeah.
stewart rhodes
And of course, trying to get expunged.
So the guys that have been pardoned, they're working through now motions of vacate in the appellate courts and the courts are granting them and kicking them back to the district courts to be vacated.
Which is great.
So your pardon and your record's wiped out, but the charges are dismissed with prejudice.
owen shroyer
Well, I think you need restitution for your time.
stewart rhodes
Oh, sure.
owen shroyer
Government owes you.
stewart rhodes
Yeah, that'd be the next step after that.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
Right.
stewart rhodes
Absolutely.
owen shroyer
That's where I say it needs to go.
And then whoever engaged in the entrapment schemes.
stewart rhodes
Well, sure.
So like in my case, we had two officers that were caught on the stand lying in our case, Harry Dunn and Officer Lazarus.
owen shroyer
They testified in your case?
stewart rhodes
Yes.
So Harry Dunn was the one that the Oath Keepers actually helped.
They went inside and de-escalated a confrontation between Harry Dunn, who was on his M4 about ready to open fire on a group of Trump supporters.
And our guys got in between, put their backs to Officer Dunn, put their hands out towards the Trump supporters, and de-escalated on both sides.
Because if they hadn't have been there, it could have been Ashley Babbitt times 20 or 30. Ashley Babbitt was murdered by Officer Beard.
Michael Beard?
owen shroyer
Bird.
stewart rhodes
Bird, yeah.
Officer Michael Bird.
That was with a pistol.
This guy was on his M4, Officer Dunn, against a crowd of Trump supporters.
So our guys de-escalated that.
His initial 302s with the FBI, he admitted they had helped him.
But then later on the stand, he, of course, lies and says, oh, that didn't happen.
That was a different group than the Oath Keepers.
That was some other group of guys dressed in paramilitary gear that helped me.
Couldn't have been these guys.
owen shroyer
Of course.
stewart rhodes
Right.
And then they had both the officers get together.
Lazarus says, yes, I was there and I watched this confrontation.
Well, Lazarus was actually in the tunnels under the Senate.
He couldn't have been there.
And Steve Baker from Blaze Media found that video and proved that he was lying on the stand.
Both of them were.
So both of them were caught red-handed.
You can't argue with that anymore.
He was not where he said he was on video.
owen shroyer
Well, that should be huge for you.
stewart rhodes
They should be indicting them for perjury.
Then they can make a deal and roll over on the prosecutors who suborn their perjury.
That's a felony offense, subornation of perjury.
They coach them to commit forgery.
Start there and rule up the chain.
That's what they should be doing.
owen shroyer
Well, I can only imagine, you know, you're just, you've been years in jail, trying to just kind of enjoy life a little bit here, just get back to breathing fresh air, not in a cage all day.
This is awesome.
Yeah, so I can imagine.
But I mean, do you see yourself getting aggressive legally?
stewart rhodes
Oh yeah, definitely.
So I've hired Mark McCloskey as my attorney.
owen shroyer
St. Louis?
Yes.
stewart rhodes
We're together in CPAC. He's a real aggressive one.
We were on Bannon's show together.
So he's taken on a lot of the J6 cases, but I've got some pretty big defamation cases too against USA Today and MSNBC for their blatant defamation against me.
owen shroyer
I've launched two lawsuits for defamation for the same thing.
And, you know, they just think that they have this carte blanche to just say whatever they want about January 6th.
stewart rhodes
New York Times versus Sullivan.
That's what they rely on.
owen shroyer
They say, oh, well, we can just say whatever you want.
It's like, no, you can't.
stewart rhodes
Right.
owen shroyer
Oh, but you're a January 6th defendant, so you're the bad guy, so I can just say whatever I want about you.
And then normally they get protection in the courts.
We'll see if that happens.
stewart rhodes
Well, we're public people.
For a public person, you've got to prove malice.
You've got to prove that they knew what they were saying was inaccurate and was malicious intent.
But I think I can prove that.
owen shroyer
Oh, you could definitely prove malicious intent, the amount of stories that they've written against you.
Oh, yeah.
It'd be tougher if it was like one story, but when it starts to compile and then it's like, okay, malicious intent for sure.
What about the Oath Keepers?
What is the future for the Oath Keepers?
stewart rhodes
Well, so on that topic, even though I'm a public person, the rank-and-file members of Oath Keepers were not.
And they were defamed when Benny Thompson filed a lawsuit February 16, 2021. This is the big tell.
He filed his lawsuit against Trump, Giuliani, Oath Keepers, and Proud Boys alleging a conspiracy between all of us with Trump as the kingpin to disenfranchise black voters.
That's what they said.
owen shroyer
Have you ever talked to Trump?
stewart rhodes
No, never have.
owen shroyer
Okay, go on.
stewart rhodes
So it's a false conspiracy with Trump as cast as the kingpin and Tarrio and I cast as his lieutenants, you know, Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.
That's all it was about, was just creating that false narrative to get Trump.
But when they did that, they labeled Oath Keepers white supremacists.
So you had Benny Thompson and the NAACP president getting up on TV and saying, yes, we're filing this lawsuit against Trump and Giuliani and these white supremacist groups, Proud Boys and Oath Keepers.
So I think all those rank-and-file Oath Keepers have a very good class action against them for defamation because they're not white supremacists.
And they're not public people.
So I don't want to be part of that one.
But McCloskey can represent all the rank and file members of Oath Keepers and win that case.
owen shroyer
Well, that's kind of the big difference between, say, Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys.
And, you know, maybe even, generally speaking, you and Enrique.
Enrique and the Proud Boys are a little more rough and tumble.
They're a little more loud and rough around the edges.
They like to go out there and mix it up sometimes.
The Oath Keepers, you basically are the face.
You're the voice.
And everybody else, they're just American patriots that signed an oath, took an oath somewhere along the way.
And you're just kind of the representative.
It's a totally different dynamic with them.
stewart rhodes
Well, what's different is that our goal, we worked together many times.
We worked together in downtown Berkeley in the park.
A lot of times we would cooperate for security missions.
But our goal is simply deterrence.
You know, they're a different mindset.
owen shroyer
Oh, it's keepers, proud boys, making sure Antifa or these other groups took it in.
stewart rhodes
And we shut them down, and we're both very effective.
They have a different strategy.
They like to go out there and mix it up.
I can't fault Ethan for wanting to do what he does.
He goes out there and knocks him cold out, and that's just fine.
But we have a different mindset.
We're just there to protect only, deter only.
And so it ends up being boring.
But that's the motto we have is boring is best.
We have an event where no one we've ever protected has ever been touched by Antifa.
Not one freaking time.
But yet, no Earth Keepers ever had to use force against Antifa either.
We just deter them.
They know our cops carry guns.
They know military and police officers.
So far, they've never wanted to close on us.
They've been deterred.
owen shroyer
So what's the best way now to support your legal fight or the Oath Keepers moving forward?
stewart rhodes
Well, Condemned USA, that's who I work for now.
I would definitely recommend folks check that website out.
You can become a monthly subscriber.
In lieu of having a membership with Oath Keepers, just sign them with Condemned USA. Because I'm doing the same work.
We're out there advocating for the Constitution and for broader reforms.
I want to see prosecutions.
I want to volunteer to help with that.
So there's a bunch of us J6s who are volunteering with Loudermilk's committee behind the scenes.
We're like, hey, we're here.
We'll help.
I'll put my yield law degree to some good use.
I love the word for Cash Patel or Tulsi Gabbard on declassification.
I think that's the next big step is to expose more of the dirt, more of the corruption.
But long term, I think there needs to be some serious reform of DOJ in curbing back these prosecutors.
They should be vulnerable to going to prison themselves.
When they violate people's rights, right now they're just not held to account at all.
owen shroyer
Absolutely beautiful.
I love to hear that.
And I know that, like I said, the Oath Keepers, they don't put their face right out in front.
You do.
But, I mean, they're just good Americans.
They took an oath.
They meant it.
And they want to take it to the grave.
stewart rhodes
We're still in two lawsuits now.
One's been dropped, thankfully.
Still two lawsuits were co-defendants with President Trump.
Lawfare continues in the civil courts.
owen shroyer
It never stops with these people.
Stuart Rhodes, an American hero.
It's so great to see you free.
Is that a jailhouse tat, by the way?
stewart rhodes
That's a Trump tattoo right there.
owen shroyer
Did you get it in prison?
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
I recognize a jailhouse tat.
I did not get one, Mom.
I did not.
stewart rhodes
You could have.
owen shroyer
All right, we got some breaking news here, ladies and gentlemen.
I do believe, and this is why I said, anything doge, I'm all in.
Now, you start to tell me about stuff going on at the DOJ and...
What Pam Bondi's plans are, I have very little faith.
I'm not really putting any wagers there.
But what Doge is doing, I'm very confident.
I'm betting.
I'm betting big.
But here's the good news.
They're all teaming up.
DOJ, FBI launch investigation into $20 billion parked outside federal, excuse me, outside financial institution in last minute heist by Biden's EPA. Lee Zeldin, the EPA director, Just sent out a letter to the EPA Office of the Inspector General concerning the Biden-EPA gold bar scheme.
He says, we will right the wrongs of the previous administration.
Gone are the days of the EPA not being accountable for the American people.
Let's explain what's happening here.
And this is a good sign for multiple reasons because it shows the full effort from the DOJ, the FBI, and the EPA to get to the bottom of what Doge is exposing.
But it's more than that.
But this is what needs to happen.
This needs to become the standard.
You have an undercover journalist.
I believe in this case it was the O'Keefe Media Group.
I don't think it was Project Veritas, but either way, one of those two.
I forget who it was.
Exposing the EPA bureaucrat.
It was Project Veritas?
So it was Project Veritas.
Glad we got that right.
Crew telling me in my ear.
And they get this leftist EPA bureaucrat bragging about how they're standing up against the Trump administration and how they have these plans to hide money.
Now, so you understand, in the federal government, they have the fiscal year window.
And they get a budget for that fiscal year window.
A lot of the budget is probably already earmarked and rubber-stamped and ready to go.
But then, a lot of the times, at the end of the year, they'll have...
They'll be sitting on cash.
Now, if they don't spend that money, then the next fiscal year window, when they're under review, they're going to not get as big of a budget.
So they have the motive to spend all the cash, so that when they go back for budget review or budget request, they can say, see, we've spent all the money, we need more.
So at the EPA, they had all this money sitting around that they were going to spend on all their leftist garbage, and this EPA bureaucrat goes and brags about how they're going to hide the money.
Well, was the EPA the only bureaucracy that did that?
I doubt it.
Now, maybe they weren't hiding the money, but they were wasting it, they were spending it, so that they could say, see, we spent all of our budget, we had nothing left over.
So that's total fraud and abuse.
Total fraud and abuse, and it happens at all the bureaucracies.
It just so happened that Project Veritas catches the EPA bureaucrat admitting this.
So now they've launched the investigation.
This is going to be such an important investigation.
If they can get to the bottom of this with the FBI and the DOJ and Congress needs to call hearings and they need to call this gentleman right here that was on the Project Veritas video and they need to call him for a hearing.
This has exactly been the problem, folks.
So many times, specifically dealing with these undercover journalists, nothing ever happens.
Nothing ever happens.
This has to change.
So there's two major wrongs that can be righted here and then set the example.
When these bureaucracies at the end of the fiscal year are spending all this money, it's nothing but fraud and abuse and waste for their budgetary desires.
We need to identify that and then stop it.
And then cut their budget.
But then also, when you have these people admitting these things, potentially admitting crimes, on undercover video, they need to be called to Congress to testify.
If not, by one of these other bureaucracies that's investigating to testify.
So this is huge.
But $20 billion?
What are we going to find out about Biden's EPA hiding $20 billion from the Trump administration?
What are we going to find?
We already found the money.
We already have been admitting it.
So now is where we can finally get results, folks.
There need to be congressional testimonies.
And then the DOJ and the FBI working together to get down to the bottom of this.
There need to be charges.
So this is a major test case that could be precedent setting.
And if they have success with this, now you can go into all the different alphabet bureaucracies and investigate their end of fiscal year expenditures and maybe even start calling some of these other bureaucrats that get caught on undercover video by Project Veritas, O'Keefe Media Group and others, call them to testify about what they're talking about.
This is stuff long overdue.
This is stuff that has been going on for years.
And now finally, we'll have maybe some investigations and some answers so that we can stop it.
So this is going to be a big one to watch.
Good for Lee Zeldin.
And let's hope the DOJ and the FBI's joint investigation can actually get down to the bottom of this.
But we're talking about leftists that probably tried to steal $20 billion from the EPA. You heard that right.
Kind of a big deal.
And so, but that's what I'm saying.
You've got all these different money heists, money laundering operations, 50 million here, 100 million there, whatever.
They get famous, like the Wolf of Wall Street movie or Bernie Madoff.
And these are individuals that run these schemes and, you know, tens of millions of dollars and they get rich.
That's like...
That's like pennies, folks.
That's like pennies compared to what goes on in the federal government.
So when you start talking about the biggest money heist of all time, you're not going to be talking about these big Wall Street insider trading deals.
You're not going to be talking about these bank heists or any of that stuff, 10 million here, 50 million there, whatever.
No, no, no, no.
You're going to be talking about billions.
You're going to be talking about billions from the federal government.
Those are the real biggest thieves in the history of this country.
It needs to be exposed.
It's such an important thing to find and stop.
But it's always the same argument.
Oh my gosh, if you cut this program, if you cut that, if you investigate that, if you do this, if you do that, then somebody's going to die!
Now it's the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
They're cutting into that.
unidentified
They're saying, my God, these scientists, these meteorologists, they're tracking weather patterns.
They're saving lives.
owen shroyer
There's no doubt a role for meteorologists and scientists tracking, tracing weather.
And, you know, we can maybe get people out before a big hurricane or get people...
To safety before a big tornado or anything else like that.
There's a role for that.
Folks, this thing is bloated.
This thing is out of control.
They have whole office buildings.
We're talking about multi-story buildings.
Because basically when you're into weather and meteorology, it's like you either make it big by going into TV or you can fill one of these other roles under a TV broadcaster.
Or you go work for the government in some way, shape, or form, and you just sit at a desk and sit in a cubicle and just track and trace and crunch numbers.
They actually kind of make fun of this.
It's funny, the more you learn, but the left, they were all mad about that movie that came out.
I think it was last summer, Twisters, which was just a spinoff of the 90s movie Twister.
But there's a moment in that movie where it's like this talented This weather chaser, meteorologist girl, goes and works for the government.
And it spends a moment and she's like talking about how she works for the government, how boring it is.
And it's like they all admit it's just a big waste of time and nobody really does anything.
So they save her from that.
They pull her out.
They put her back in the field to do good work.
The whole thing is bloated.
But now they're saying, oh my gosh, they're cutting into the N-O. AA, and people are going to die because of it.
I guarantee you, I guarantee you, you could get it down to 10% and it would still function with the exact same effectiveness that it does today.
Guarantee it.
Not to mention, all these meteorologists, they all want to be the first to the punch anyway.
So they're already all over it with their teams.
But that's it.
Oh, don't cut.
People are going to die.
unidentified
You're going to cut this.
owen shroyer
You're going to cut that.
unidentified
You're going to cut Medicaid.
owen shroyer
Elon Musk calls Social Security a Ponzi scheme as he destroys the U.S. government.
unidentified
Hold on a second.
owen shroyer
Let me ask you a question.
If somebody just said this to you, no context.
No context at all.
unidentified
Just...
owen shroyer
He's destroying the U.S. government.
How would that make you feel?
He's destroying the U.S. government.
Well, in this instance, the U.S. government is not exactly what it's supposed to be.
You are the U.S. government.
We, the people, are the U.S. government.
So you are actually your own government.
It's self-government.
We are supposed to have a very tiny, limited government.
Now it's out of control.
Why would Elon Musk be calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme?
And this is how you know the propaganda is working, and the crew is showing you all these stories on the screen right now.
It's hundreds of these headlines.
Musk is destroying the government.
Musk is going after Social Security.
You're going to die.
You're going to lose your payment.
No, what's going to happen?
The whole thing, look, Social Security is already a Ponzi scheme.
Social Security shouldn't even exist.
I would like to find a way to twilight this entire thing and just shut it down.
Just shut it down.
It's really what should happen.
You keep your own money.
You save up your own money.
You put your own money in markets or whatever you want for retirement.
That's what should be happening.
Social Security shouldn't even exist.
But aside from that, why would Musk be calling it a Ponzi scheme?
Because he already knows it's a Ponzi scheme.
He already knows of all the waste, fraud, and abuse.
So imagine, he's going to make it even more effective.
And they're complaining about it.
Here he is talking about it with Joe Rogan, clip 18. Don't bet the farm on a mean coin.
unidentified
The weird one is the pump it dumps.
elon musk
It happens all the time.
unidentified
All the time.
gavin newsom
And people get shocked that somebody pump and dumped.
unidentified
What are you doing?
I was hoping to dump.
alex jones
I was hoping to make all the money out of this.
unidentified
I can't believe they got me.
It's just weird that it's legal still.
elon musk
I mean, casinos are legal.
And people just lose money at casinos.
unidentified
But you can't rig a casino like a pump and dump.
You could rig a pump and dump.
You know?
elon musk
Yeah, I guess so.
unidentified
Like, you could run a real pyramid scheme.
elon musk
I mean, the government's one big pyramid scheme, if you ask me.
unidentified
Yeah, well, you could tell me better than anybody.
elon musk
Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time.
owen shroyer
So, I'm telling you right now, he's going to present the evidence.
Musk has the goods on Social Security being a Ponzi scheme.
I'd bet it.
You know, Pam Bondi having the Epstein file on her desk?
I wouldn't bet on that.
No, I'd suggest not betting on that.
Musk showing how the Social Security program is being used and abused with waste, fraud, and abuse as a Ponzi scheme?
Yeah, I'd bet on that.
I'm feeling good about that bet.
I'm liking that bet.
He wouldn't be saying it unless he already knew it, folks.
I'm telling you.
So they hate him for it.
Woman arrested after explosives discovered at Tesla dealership.
There's your woman, by the way.
Yeah.
How do you guys feel about that woman right there?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm the woman that placed the explosives at the Tesla dealership.
Woman?
Uh-huh.
owen shroyer
All that's missing from that woman is a goatee woman.
unidentified
*coughing* Woman.
owen shroyer
Sure it is.
It's a woman, all right.
Let's do this.
Let's get through the rest of the Musk clips, and then we'll play Marjorie Taylor Greene talking about Doge exposing the USAID fraud.
But here's Musk talking about the propaganda media in clip two.
elon musk
The whole thing is very crazy.
The media is incredibly partisan.
Almost all the media is left-shifted.
It's kind of weird.
If you talk to somebody who gets all their information from what I call legacy media, they're living in a different world than if they are listening to your podcast.
Or getting news from X or, you know, just...
unidentified
It's kind of wild.
elon musk
It is very wild.
It's like they're living in an ultimate reality.
unidentified
Oh, there's a lot of people that I talk to that I have to go, where did you hear that?
elon musk
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
elon musk
I mean, like the Associated Press, which I call Associated Propaganda, the AP, you know, they ran an international news story saying that Doge fired air traffic controllers.
But we didn't fire any air traffic controllers at all.
In fact, we're trying to hire air traffic controllers, not fire them.
unidentified
Yeah, I saw that.
You made a tweet about it, right?
owen shroyer
So he says, if you follow legacy media and the propaganda press, you're living in a different world.
And it's true.
As I've said it, you're lost in a world that doesn't exist.
If you follow legacy media, leftist propaganda, you are lost in a world that doesn't exist.
That's not...
An exaggeration.
These people think men can get pregnant.
Or as Musk stated, this is a story he's familiar with.
Although I think we're all probably familiar with men can't get pregnant.
But Musk is like, no, I'm part of Doge.
We didn't fire a single FAA instructor, not one.
We didn't fire any of those attendants.
We're actually trying to hire them.
And then you look at the swath of the propaganda.
Musk fires air traffic control.
Musk fires air traffic control.
Trump fires air traffic control.
It just fires air traffic control everywhere.
And they're like, no, we didn't fire a single one.
We actually are trying to hire them.
But here's an example.
And again, look.
It's so hard to separate parody from reality because the left has completely lost their minds to such a degree that you never know.
But this is a guy.
Crying on camera because of what happened at the White House.
Now, why am I playing this after Musk saying that?
Because this is an example of a man who's lost in a world that doesn't exist.
He believes the propaganda that Zelensky is some hero and this war is about the Ukrainian people and the Ukrainian borders and all this other stuff.
He's genuinely fully invested, fully lost in this world that doesn't exist.
So this video goes massively viral over the weekend because this guy's crying about what happened at the White House.
So I'll give you a little taste of this and explain how it ties into what Musk just said.
This is sad, but the man recorded it, so did it to himself.
unidentified
Clip 11. Why don't you wear a suit?
Why don't you wear a suit?
You're the highest level in this country's office and you refuse to wear a suit.
owen shroyer
He even added the emotional music to it, too.
unidentified
- Do you own it soon? - This man is fighting for his country.
The sovereign nation got invaded.
His people are dying.
And this motherfucker talks about him wearing a suit.
I hate this fucking country.
I've never in my life felt like I do right now.
I don't give a fuck what he wears.
owen shroyer
Well, so again, you can go volunteer for the war in Ukraine.
They need men, so you can go volunteer.
They got all kinds of problems.
You can go ahead and sign up.
You won't, because you really don't care that much.
But, alright.
How is this...
An example of what Musk just talked about living in a different world.
He actually thinks Ukraine, the Ukraine war is all about Ukraine.
He actually believes that Vladimir Zelensky is some war hero.
He actually believes that.
Now, there are people dying.
Trump's trying to stop them from dying.
Zelensky's not.
When was the last time he saw Zelensky on the front lines?
But see, he actually believes this.
He believes he's fully invested in the propaganda.
Zelensky's a hero.
He's fighting the good fight.
He's the victim.
He's lost in a world that doesn't exist.
So what happens to these people?
If and when, I mean, we already know that it's happening, but the details perhaps we'll find out in great detail.
$300 billion, more than half of it is missing, just gone.
And Zelensky says he never even got it.
unidentified
Says, yeah, you said $300 billion, about $154 billion, we never even got.
Never even got the $154 billion.
owen shroyer
So that's more than half.
Where did that money go?
Where is the money?
Is he going to complain about that?
That's actually his money.
That actually does concern him.
But no, he doesn't live in that world.
He lives in the world of government propaganda, war propaganda, Ukraine propaganda.
So he's on air crying.
He's there crying about this because Zelensky's getting bullied.
Zelensky is the reason why they're dying.
Zelensky is the reason why the war won't stop.
Zelensky is the reason why $154 billion of U.S. taxpayers is gone.
Why weapons are being laundered through Ukraine.
That's the real story.
That's the reality.
But this man doesn't live in reality.
He's lost in a world that doesn't exist.
And now a grown man crying on social media.
unidentified
Because Bozolenski.
owen shroyer
Now we're going to hear from Colonel Douglas McGregor coming up.
We're also going to hear from Bondi on the Epstein documents.
We're also going to hear from Marjorie Taylor Greene on some of the other work that Doge is doing.
Andrew Cuomo is going to be running for New York City mayor.
I'll tell you what.
Let's have a laugh at that.
Listen to Cuomo here in his opening.
This is a 20-minute statement as he announces he's running for mayor.
But just the opening moments here are classic.
Clip 10. Hello.
andrew cuomo
I'm Andrew Cuomo.
owen shroyer
Hi, Andrew.
andrew cuomo
Let me start by telling you what you already know.
owen shroyer
Okay.
andrew cuomo
New York City is the greatest city in the world.
owen shroyer
Wow.
andrew cuomo
There is no other place like it.
owen shroyer
Okay.
andrew cuomo
And as in life, we have had times when we are at our shining best.
And there are times when we struggle and endure great hardship.
But we also know that we can handle a crisis because we have.
We recently did it together through COVID.
And we know that the first step towards solving a problem is having the strength, having the courage to recognize it.
And we know that today our New York City is in trouble.
You feel it when you walk down the street and try not to make eye contact with a mentally ill homeless person.
Or when the anxiety rises up in your chest as you're walking down into the subway.
You see it in the empty storefronts, the graffiti, the grime, the migrant influx, the random violence.
The city just feels threatening, out of control, and in crisis.
These conditions exist not as an act of God, but rather as an act of our political leaders.
The lack of intelligent action by many of our political leaders.
That's good.
owen shroyer
Thank you.
unidentified
Wow.
owen shroyer
Wow.
Is he a Republican?
Is he running as a Republican?
Political leadership?
Who runs New York City?
Democrats!
Who runs New York State?
Democrats!
Andrew Cuomo just said the Democrats that run New York...
Have destroyed it and lack intelligence.
Now remember, he got ran out.
He got ran out of the state because COVID was such a butcher job by him.
But he doesn't know what else to do without politics.
He's a career politician.
He comes from a political family.
So he has nothing without politics.
So he's trying to get back into the ring now.
But think about that.
Now that Eric Adams is like kind of Democrat-like, working with the Trump campaign, Cuomo...
Is going all anti-Democrat.
Oh, our city's dangerous because of whose policies?
Democrats.
People are afraid to ride on the subway because of whose policies?
Whose culture?
Democrats.
Illegal immigrants over on the city because of whose policies?
Democrats.
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Hi, this is Colonel Douglas MacGregor, CEO of Our Country, Our Choice.
Today, we stand on the threshold of potentially a very large regional war in the Middle East.
A war that could ultimately reach us here inside the United States.
Many of you know me, some of you don't.
I'm not the sort of person to shrink from combat.
I was a professional combat soldier.
I liked it, and I have fought against the enemies of this country, and I have killed men in action.
But there has to be a good reason.
And I think over the last 25, 30 years, we haven't had very many good reasons to sacrifice American lives and treasure overseas.
The fact that this large-scale war could break out and involve us concerns me deeply.
This is a time when you, if you share my concern and oppose involving us in a large Middle Eastern war, should stand up and be counted.
It's time to say no.
We don't want to fight in another war in the Middle East that could cost us dearly and result in the loss of millions of lives.
Too many lives have been squandered at this point.
We don't want to lose anymore.
If we're going to fight, Let's find a damn good reason to do so.
Today, that does not exist for us in the Middle East.
So give it some thought.
Tell the people that are in Washington what you feel, what you think.
Believe me, you have an impact.
And we will join together with other organizations, some of them may be where you live, organizations that involve veterans and many other good citizens who are equally concerned about the potential for the war in the Middle East to spread.
We don't want that.
We want a powerful United States that is prosperous, but we want peace abroad.
And we can't build up this nation to what it should be unless we have peace abroad.
We have the border to think about.
We have illegal immigration to think about and criminality here at home to think about.
We need to act on those.
Tell the people that represent you in the House, in the Senate, at your local level, this is where we want to focus.
Our focus and operation focus is very clear.
We are opposed to another large regional war in the Middle East.
We don't want to be part of it.
We don't need it.
And we think it's the wrong war in the wrong place for all the wrong reasons.
Thank you.
owen shroyer
Thank you, Colonel Douglas McGregor, one of the few veterans that...
Tells it like it is and high-ranking veterans to stop these never-ending wars.
But the American people are behind that message now, no doubt about it.
Well, we're all sitting here wanting answers when it comes to the Epstein list and perhaps more specifically when it comes to who is hiding the list or who is keeping it from Pam Bondi's desk and that whole debacle.
But really, we just want answers.
Who is Epstein working for?
Who are his clients?
Who is being blackmailed?
And then when are arrests going to happen?
What is the investigation into the people trying to stop us from getting the truth going to produce some results?
Well, maybe we have a result here today.
Head of FBI New York, James Dennehy, forcibly resigns and laid a shakeup at the bureau under the Trump administration.
The head of the FBI in New York City resigned today.
The highest level shakeup at the bureau under the Trump administration.
I don't know if that's true.
We have a new director now.
But James Dennehy, a well-regarded leader in the New York law enforcement community.
This is ABC News, of course, puffing him up.
Told the office he was forced to submit his resignation as an assistant director in charge of the FBI's New York field office.
Top FBI official forced out after criticizing Trump pursuit of agents who investigated January 6th.
He said to dig in after the new administration requested the names of all agents who worked on Capitol riot cases.
So could this be about January 6th?
Could this be about the Epstein list, the lack of answers?
Could there be something else going on here?
But the shakeup continues.
And let's see if we get any results now that this guy is out of the way.
And of course, who replaces him is going to be very important as well.
But top FBI bureaucrat out.
In New York, as the people are waiting for answers on the Epstein client list, and more.
I wonder if this was a direct result of even Kash Patel himself.
Joining me now, and this guy's background is really incredible, all kinds of White House access as a former stenographer, but he's just come out with another book.
And I've been listening to some of the interviews he's done on his media tour, and I said, this is an incredible story here.
The latest book, An Almost Insurmountable Evil, How Barack Obama's Deep State Defiled the Catholic Church and Executed the Wuhan Plandemic.
Joining me now is Mike McCormick, again, former stenographer, worked in D.C. for years, just an incredible resume, and now his latest book, An Almost Insurmountable Evil.
Mike, there's so much that you get into in this book that even I've never heard before.
And I like to think of myself as being pretty informed on all things politics.
And every time I hear you do an interview, it seems like you're breaking new things that even I have never heard.
But before we kind of get into the details, what motivated you to write this book?
What is the brainchild that led to this book?
mike mccormick
Well, it was Alex.
Alex Jones.
So I was on with you guys about a year ago and talking about another book that I had written, that book, The Case from Impeach and Imprisoned Joe Biden.
And after that, I started watching your show for a little bit.
I was watching Alex's show, and he started talking about this overwhelming feeling of evil.
This was right around this time last year, like March, April.
I think he was under a lot of pressure over the lawsuits.
Trump was under lawfare.
The whole country seemed like it was teetering at the brink of this, another stolen election with Biden rolling through.
And I thought to myself, what's the most evil thing that I remember from my time in the White House?
And it was the relationship between Cardinal Theodore McCarrick and Joe Biden.
Both of them having, when I wrote that book, Joe Biden, the case to impeach and imprison Joe Biden, I had access to the Hunter Biden laptop, a copy of the Hunter Biden laptop from Garrett Ziegler, Marco Polo.
And so I was able to go into that laptop and look through their emails traffic and coordinate it with when I remember going to Ukraine.
I've been to Ukraine three times, Joe Biden.
That's where all the criminality was.
And so two years ago, and so...
I had this sense of knowing what was going on in the White House.
Well, Alex had this feeling of evil, and I was like, what was the most evil thing?
It was this relationship with McCarrick.
So what I did was I went to White House visitor logs, and I looked to see where was McCarrick, how much access did he have.
It was a shock.
I was flabbergasted, and it was evil right in there in front of me.
Because having written that book...
It's basically written as a timeline.
So it starts with basically the beginning of the Ukraine Burisma scandal that Joe Biden had.
But I knew also at the same time he had a scandal with another company called Metabiota.
And they're the ones that set up the Ukrainian bio labs that started the re-invasion of Ukraine by Putin in 2022. And so that...
That whole timeline went through, and that's what's in this book, is the Metabiota story.
Well, Metabiota played a huge role in setting up the pandemic, and USAID funded it.
Fauci was all over it.
It came out of a meeting that Joe Biden had in China with Hunter Biden present.
We just saw the photos come out not too long ago.
As the book was going to final publication, the photos came out that Stephen Miller, his organization found that Hunter Biden had met with Xi Jinping in Beijing.
Well, I was on that trip as a White House stenographer, and it was a very strange trip.
So I described it in the book.
And what I found with this Cardinal McCarrick was he, basically, I make a pretty strong case.
He was a CIA operative.
He was groomed into the CIA as a young priest.
Risen to the ranks.
He assumed a position as a bishop.
He was in New Jersey.
And this is a guy who was raping children, altar boys and seminarians, throughout his career.
And the Vatican started getting complaints about him, and they just kept ignoring it.
And the question was always, well, why did they ignore it?
Why did he get so high?
He got so high because he was backed by the CIA. And so in the 90s, 1990s...
He came to Washington as this archbishop from New Jersey and started working for the State Department and traveling all over the world.
And it wasn't like he went to Peru.
He went to China.
He went to Iran.
He went to the sensitive places.
He went to Gaza.
He went to the Middle East.
He went to the sensitive places that an intelligence agency would want somebody to gather intelligence about.
And then he started working his way up.
In 2001, he was named Archbishop of Washington.
He became a cardinal.
And after the 9-11 attacks, he became like the moral voice of the Catholic Church.
Meanwhile, behind the scenes, he's raping children.
He's a predator, sexual predator.
Well, along the way, a very noble...
Catholic clergyman named Archbishop Magano in Italy was working the Vatican, and he saw these reports, and he was like, you know what, we've got to tell the Vatican about it.
And they kept ignoring it.
They ignored Magano.
What happened was, Obama comes in.
Obama had one of his right-hand men was a guy named Dennis McDonough.
Dennis McDonough had two brothers who took holy orders.
One was retired from the priesthood.
One is still the priest, though.
He's been demoted from a high-level position to kind of a lower-level position because he was covering for pedophile priests in Minneapolis-St.
Paul.
So Dennis McDonough was staunch Catholic, he said.
So was Joe Biden.
And he worked closely with National Security Advisor Donilon, Tom Donilon, who was also a Catholic.
So these three guys, and they all knew McCarrick.
Biden knew McCarrick for years.
And what I would hear of Biden say, you know, McCarrick would be at a St. Patrick's Day reception or a reception at Naval Observatory or something.
And Biden was always calling, there's Cardinal McCarrick.
And you could tell he was like his spiritual advisor.
Well, this is a really evil man to have as your spiritual advisor.
And Biden would have known what McCarrick's background was.
I mean, working in the White House as long as I have, I understand the intelligence streams that come into the White House and you have access to it.
And Biden was the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee.
So he would have gone out there and known about these things through the background that McCarrick was doing.
McCarrick became this guy that they really started to lean on.
Well, he's a CIA guy.
They used him to install Pope Francis in 2013. They pushed the somewhat conservative Pope Benedict out, and they brought in Francis.
And the second they did, he started doing Obama's foreign policy.
He became Obama's foreign policy tool.
The egregious things that he did was he put the Catholic Church on the path with McCarrick and going to these meetings with McDonough to open up the southern border to all this human trafficking directly with cartels.
So that's what's in the book.
And they basically opened the Catholic Church up to do a business deal with cartel devils and Joe Biden.
And that's the insurmountable evil.
And we voted Trump in.
Thank God.
owen shroyer
Well, and you even got into the deep past of Barack Obama, even kind of starting his political career in Illinois with these exact same Catholic groups that then rose to power along with himself, almost side by side.
It sounds to me the challenge, though, here, and maybe it ties into your previous book, too, but it sounds like the challenge here is to tie...
The Biden's business deals in Ukraine and China, which you were a part of those trips, to Barack Obama's rise to power and what got him there and then the policies that followed.
And then how does this all tie in as well to the COVID virus being made in a lab?
unidentified
Yeah.
mike mccormick
Well, so the Biden crime family used USAID as their piggy bank.
They ran a lot of crime kickback schemes with USAID. So there was a USAID kickback scheme with Burisma.
And I can tell you a little bit of news.
On Friday, I sent an email to, you know, you were just talking about the FBI guy just previously before I got on, who had resigned.
So the FBI, we're looking at the FBI, what's going on?
Two years ago, I sent a...
Tip to the FBI website saying, I'm a witness.
I witnessed a crime with Joe Biden and Jake Sullivan on board Air Force Two going into Ukraine in April 2014. And the crime I identified was conspiracy, which was still ongoing.
So it's not like the statute of limitations has gone up.
So two years ago, I sent that in.
Never heard back.
I did get to talk to congressional investigators about it.
And they just rolled over on it.
They don't want to look into what's really going on with Joe Biden.
It worked out okay.
Joe Biden didn't get impeached, and we got Trump in, thankfully.
But what I've done is, on Friday, I resubmitted that tip.
I took screenshots I made of that FBI tip, and I put in an email and sent the email to U.S. Attorney in the District of Columbia, Ed Martin's office.
So we'll see what happens.
But one of the things these investigations have always lacked that the Democrats make a big deal out of is evidence.
Well, I'm a witness.
And if I go down in front of a grand jury and I testify, I saw Jake Sullivan on Air Force Two tell press people that two of the four...
Pillars of assistance that Joe Biden was bringing for the energy sector in Ukraine directly benefit his son.
When he knew his son was secretly on the board of Burisma, that's malfeasance and that's conspiracy.
And that becomes evidence.
When that's testified to in the grand jury, it's evidence.
So we're all standing back here wondering, okay, what is really, is our justice system going to work for us?
Here's a test.
I sent an email in.
We'll see what this U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C. can do with it.
I'm a witness, and I'm ready to testify.
owen shroyer
And so a lot of this is a combination of your work when you were actually the stenographer traveling on these foreign trips, and then I guess more research that you've done when you're in the process of writing these books.
But the connections you make here, it starts to paint the picture of, okay, well now we know why Jake Sullivan was one of the leading...
You know, foreign policy and voices for the Biden administration dealing with foreign nations when Biden was president.
Because he was there with Biden when he was vice president.
He was in on the grift from the entire start.
So, of course, he brought him in.
mike mccormick
That's right.
Yeah, Sullivan was his vice presidential national security advisor from 2000 and, like, fall of 2012 through...
The summer of 2014. So just as Hunter Biden started revving up that harassment grift, Sullivan got out and he went to work for Hillary Clinton.
He was working on her election attempt in 2016. But then he comes back.
He was a national security advisor last.
And, you know, he's a criminal.
And that's what I say.
And, you know, two years ago, so after I sent this tip in to the FBI. I pushed it up the ladder into the media.
So I got in touch with the New York Post writer, Stephen Nelson.
He did a big story on it, and it got on Fox.
And then he's sitting in the White House briefing room and out walks Jake Sullivan.
And Stephen Nelson asked him, hey, there's a White House snarker named Mike McCormick who says you were part of a Ukrainian kickback scene with Joe Biden.
Is that true?
unidentified
And Sullivan was like, oh, no.
mike mccormick
But they asked him.
And so we're going to get there.
We're going to get there with this investigation.
And with this, we've got a new team on the ground.
We've got people who are actually going to do their jobs.
I think we're going to get there.
We're going to get some people that are convicted.
One of the names that comes through, I sent this in to you guys, is the Vindmans.
That's what I write about in that book.
The Vindmans figured into the Ukraine corruption.
And I think that's why they wound up in the National Security Council in 2018. So Alexander Vindman was the area officer for the Pentagon in Ukraine and Russia, and he worked out of both embassies.
And Biden was terminally, that's probably not the right word, was terribly corrupt using the embassy.
And so...
There's Vindman going in and out of the embassy, and then all of a sudden, Hunter Biden is doing this grift where he's using this Metabiotic company that he has invested in.
And Metabiotic starts coming into Ukraine to set up his bio labs.
Well, one of the big funders for the Metabiotic program was the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
That's a DOD outfit.
That would have been in Vindman's portfolio.
So in September of 2014, just as Ebola starts erupting, and by the way, Ebola erupts in Africa while this company that Hunter Biden had invested in, MetaBiota, was there conducting sampling to find Ebola samples.
They were going out in the bush looking for Ebola samples.
And guess what happens?
Ebola erupts and it kills 10,000 people.
So this is a really dark...
It's an almost insurmountable evil.
So what happens with the Vindmans is Devin Archer, Hunter Biden's wingman, goes to Ukraine in 2014, September.
Was Vindman in that meeting?
And was he aware of this metabiotic investment Hunter Biden had?
And by the way, the CIA winds up investing in metabiotic by 2017. Once Trump comes in in 2016. Everything shifts in the background.
The Vatican operation that the CIA, the deep state had, all of a sudden it all comes to a stop because Trump gets elected.
They didn't expect that.
So he puts up the border wall and the Vatican's human trafficking, drug trafficking with the CIA gets shut down.
owen shroyer
And I try to explain this to people.
When we look at what happened in Ukraine or what happened at the border, You can't properly understand it unless you understand that they were making up for four years of Trump being president.
The reason why the border invasion was so bad was because they were trying to make up for lost time.
The reason why the Ukraine war and the $300 billion, the reason why it was so big, because they were making up for lost time.
They lost four years of their human trafficking operations, probably in Ukraine as well as the southern border.
They lost four years of whatever else money they were grifting and everything out of Ukraine.
So that's why it was so out of control for four years under Biden, not to mention he's just a total criminal or whoever was running him.
I mean, who knows how much he can think or not.
But that's why it was so egregious for the Biden four years, was because they had all that catching up to do.
Quickly, because I'm short on time here.
mike mccormick
And they just went too far, right?
Wouldn't you agree?
owen shroyer
Well, yeah, I mean, look at the results.
I mean, everybody now is, I mean, even Elon Musk is about to look into that money to Ukraine.
But quickly, as I'm running out of time, do you believe...
That the Vindman brothers are double agents?
It's well known they were offered a job inside the Ukrainian military.
Do you think they took that job?
mike mccormick
I think they were deep state guys.
The Vindmans in 2018 were assigned to the Pentagon.
So after Trump gets elected, Alexander Vindman comes out of Ukraine and goes back to the Pentagon.
General Mattis is the Secretary of Defense at the time.
He sends the Vindman brothers.
Into National Security Council, while General John F. Kelly is the White House Chief of Staff.
These two guys, Madison Kelly, Kelly figured big into the smuggling out of Honduras.
He was right in their line helping, as a DOD guy, helping the smuggling and human trafficking out of Honduras.
So this was a deep state, and they used Vindman's.
Were they double agents?
Could be.
They could easily have been.
Certainly one of them is now a congressman, and he should be, you know, seriously investigated.
owen shroyer
Are you surprised after four years of the Bidens covering it as a White House stenographer when he was vice president?
Are you surprised at everything that happened in Ukraine?
$300 billion, all the weapons, and then Zelensky comes out and says, yeah, we don't even know where more than half the money went?
mike mccormick
No.
I mean, Ukraine was a crime scene, and Putin knew it.
You know, I did a trip with Biden in 2011. We went to Moscow.
And Putin humiliated Biden publicly.
And it was never reported back here.
And I wrote it in another book, and the chapter I called was Bitch Slapped in Moscow.
And I've talked about it in other media, but Putin always knew he had Biden right where he needed him.
And as soon as Biden became president, Ukraine was doomed.
Putin was just going to go in and get everything he needed out of the Donbass.
All the energy reserves that he needs.
And that's what he's going to wind up with.
And Zelensky is just flopping around like, you know, a pretend dictator.
And, you know, this is going south.
This is going to get really, unfortunately, millions of people have suffered because of this Biden corruption and Obama sitting there and letting it happen.
And, you know, the globalists are just sort of cashing in on the side of it.
It's just...
Almost insurmountable evil.
We got Trump dead.
owen shroyer
I think Ukraine is maybe the biggest crime scene in modern history, really.
You could point to some other things, the southern border, even just Washington, D.C. itself.
What they did in Ukraine, it's really one of the biggest crime scenes in the history of the world.
There's so much more we didn't have time for today.
Mike McCormick, the name of the new book, An Almost Insurmountable Evil.
The one thing that you got into in other interviews, we just ran out of time today, is The Obama connection to the Catholic Church.
I mean, I knew the Catholic Church was corrupt.
I didn't realize Obama's deep ties to it.
That was some real interesting stuff, but you can learn more about it in the book.
Mike, thank you for your time.
Keep up the media interviews.
Every interview I hear you on, you're giving a little bit more information that I didn't know before, so appreciate you.
mike mccormick
Thanks, Owen.
owen shroyer
All right, folks, we'll be right back.
We're going to pile drive through a bunch of news.
Final segment.
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I don't know.
We're going to give it our best.
Let's start here.
Pam Bondi last night with Mark Levin, of course, to talk about the Epstein documents that she still hasn't given us, clip five.
unidentified
You've been stonewalled by people in New York.
Do you want to explain that?
pam bondi
Yes, Mark.
So, as you know, we released about 120 pages of documents.
And I started asking for these documents right when I came into office.
owen shroyer
Those documents were already released.
pam bondi
And before Kash Patel was in there.
So I ended up getting about 120 pages.
We carefully redacted them, of course, to be sure that 200 and...
54 young girls, women who are victims of sex crimes and sex trafficking, their personal information was redacted and out of there to protect them.
So I'm going through it and I kept saying, there has to be more.
There has to be more.
I'm assured that's it.
Cash, ask the same question.
Assured there's no more.
I found out this week that a source told me, New York, SDNY, they're sitting on thousands of pages of documents regarding Epstein.
Thousands.
Thousands.
And of course, you've seen the very strong letter.
We will get everything.
We will have it in our possession.
We will redact it, of course, to protect grand jury information and confidential witnesses.
But the American people have a right to know.
And Donald Trump is the most transparent president in our nation's history.
So not only will America get the full Epstein files, they will get JFK. They will get Martin Luther King.
unidentified
Well, that's fantastic.
But I assume the Southern District of New York is or has been holding on to this information for a reason.
That is, they don't like the names on the list.
And, of course, we know New York is a hotbed of the Democrat Party, and that includes in legal circles.
Do you think that's part of the issue here, that they're trying to protect a lot of names and individuals?
pam bondi
You know, Mark, I have not reviewed the information yet.
And as a lawyer, as a prosecutor, I want to review everything before I make a firm conclusion.
But I think it's very interesting that they withheld that from us.
And I will find out who withheld it.
And they will not be working for us anymore.
unidentified
All right, that's enough.
owen shroyer
I can barely, I gotta be honest, folks.
I can barely stand her anymore.
And it's nothing about her personally.
It's just, ooh, strongly worded letters.
Ooh, strong interview with Fox News.
So you haven't even seen the files?
So you redacted unredacted files?
Sorry, but this situation keeps getting worse for Pam Bondi.
Now, the FBI agent that got fired or resigned today, was that the one?
Is he a fall guy?
That interview did not give me any more hope from anything from Pam Bondi.
I'm going to be perfectly honest.
And again, I'm not the only one that's saying this.
There are a lot of people that are much higher up than me that are basically saying she's just not going to make it.
She's just not going to make it.
You're the Attorney General and you're sitting here acting like you have no power.
I don't get that.
That's one thing I've never understood is this game that they play on us.
Where they act like they don't have the ability to do something like they're as helpless as us.
You're literally the Attorney General.
And you've been in there for almost a month now and you're acting like you don't have any power and you don't know anything.
Well, what the hell is going on then?
You can blame as many people as you want.
You can pass the buck as much as you want.
It's not flying anymore.
I'm sorry.
Not working.
And I've met Pam.
Very nice person.
I'm sure she's a very nice and sweet person.
If that's the best you got after the debacle last week, that's nothing.
And an FBI agent resigning, which you're basically accusing of corruption, and they can just resign?
It's not good.
She claims she was duped, though.
She's the victim.
She's the victim here, she claims.
I don't know.
At this point, there's really only one thing that she can do to redeem herself, and that is fully producing all these things, which I have no expectations of.
And let's see arrests.
Let's see raids.
Not seeing that either.
So it's unfortunate, but to me, I am now, I'm past the point of no return.
I have no faith in Pambani.
And that's because that's her own fault.
The only thing she can do at this point to redeem herself is to actually produce the files, actually produce arrests, actually produce raids.
That's it.
I don't care about a strongly worded letter.
Neither does America.
I don't care about your 10th Fox interview blaming other people.
Neither does America.
And if you can't do anything by now, then...
Sorry, I have no faith.
Prove me wrong, Pam.
Prove me wrong.
But I'm telling you right here, nobody else wants to say it because they don't want to fall out of grace with the White House and they don't want to be negative, but I'm telling you right now, things are not really on the up and up for Pam Bondi.
Now imagine, they have to get private investigators to get these stories at the New York Post.
Was President Trump's would-be assassin, Thomas Crooks, part of a larger conspiracy?
And this is all from Doug Hagman, who's searching this stuff, who's been on Infowars many times.
But again, where is the FBI? Where is the Department of Justice?
What the hell is going on here?
If these institutions can do nothing to declassify these documents and release them to the public, if these institutions can do nothing to get to the bottom of what happened to President Trump's multiple assassination attempts, then why do they even exist?
I'm not playing these excuse games.
I'm not playing these patty cake games.
I'm not playing they need more time and all this stuff.
Bullcrap.
They're the boss now.
If they want something done, they can get it done.
Now, I'm not doubting they're dealing with corruption.
I'm not doubting they're dealing with corruption.
I'm not doubting they're dealing with agents that are working against them and all this stuff.
I know that's going on.
So what?
So what are you doing?
unidentified
Oh!
owen shroyer
Here it is.
Justice Department announces formation of task force to combat anti-Semitism.
That's what you got.
I see.
So we can't figure out who's trying to kill President Trump.
We can't figure out what's going on with an Epstein list or a JFK assassination or a Martin Luther King assassination.
But don't worry.
If you're an anti-Semite on a college campus, they have squads coming after you.
I'm dead serious.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Which is mostly just a free speech concern, I would say.
Yeah, there were definitely some instances where you're broaching on going beyond free speech when you're blocking people access and some of the other occupational things that they've done.
But that can all be dealt with by local law enforcement.
But hey, nothing on the Epstein files, nothing on the JFK assassination, MLK, no declassification, no answers.
We don't know anything.
We're blaming everybody else.
We need more time.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But hey, we got task force on college universities finding anti-Semites.
unidentified
So, oh, thank God.
owen shroyer
I mean, whew, I was getting nervous that you guys were worthless.
But now that I know you have active squads on multiple college campuses finding anti-Semites, my faith has been restored.
unidentified
Pathetic.
owen shroyer
Absolutely pathetic.
Trump to announce Taiwanese companies' $1 billion investment in U.S. chip plants.
That happened today.
Trump has already brought in...
Trillions in investments to the U.S. economy.
We're yet to really see the full impact of that, but you will soon.
Amid Trump crackdown, illegal border crossings plunged to record lows.
So it always was policy.
Remember, they had all these different excuses.
Oh, it's because of this Central America problems.
unidentified
Oh, Kamala Harris borders are, she'll get to the bottom of it.
owen shroyer
Oh, they're fleeing for a better life, all this stuff.
No, it was all policy.
It was all open border policy.
They need a loan.
As bulk eggs now cost more than a tank of gas.
The egg shortage.
Nobody would ever dare blame the Biden administration for that.
And nobody would ever dare talking about these issues when Biden was president.
Beef prices are nearing record highs.
What's going on?
It's all regulations.
It's all policies.
Look, Trump is dealing with a lot of things.
He's going to have to address this stuff pretty soon, I think.
He's going to have to address these economic concerns pretty soon.
There's nothing he can do.
He can't flip a switch and invent a million chickens out of thin air.
But regulations on farmers, regulations on the beef industry, and just really honing in on the energy stuff.
Trump, that's something that needs to be done soon.
Because Trump's been dealing with a lot of other stuff and doge and trying to stop these wars.
And he's kind of put some of the energy stuff, I think, on the back end here.
But soon it's going to be time to really go full thruster on that.
Now, tomorrow night, President Trump is going to address Congress, his first congressional address since becoming president a second time.
And the Democrats always offer you the alternate address.
It's always a massive failure, by the way.
In fact, really?
The Republicans pretty much fail on this every time, but they don't fail themselves into complete oblivion.
It was, I believe it was Katie Britt, who they brought forward last time Biden gave an address, and then her counter address was pretty not good, but at least she had an election victory after that.
The Democrats, they bring these people to have the counter speech, and then they fall into oblivion.
No, this is going to be their latest case.
It's almost like they do this to get these people out of the way.
It's like, hey, who do we need to get out of Democrat Party politics?
Oh, this guy.
Okay, have him do the alternate address, and then they'll be...
See ya.
Representative Latifa Simon.
I had to look this up to even see if it was real.
The Working Families Party announced that Congresswoman Latifa Simon will deliver its eighth annual response to the president's address to Congress.
Tomorrow night.
So I guess they want Latifah out of politics.
This one is going to be fun.
Yeah.
So you'll have Trump and then you'll have Latifah.
Anyway.
Mother of two, 34 years old, undergoes a dozen surgeries.
There she is.
There's Latifah.
I mean, hold on a second.
Hold on.
Can we just...
No, no, no, no, no.
Yep, yep.
Where do I want to begin here?
You know what?
I don't.
Never mind.
Get her off the screen.
Or him.
Or whatever.
Mother of two, 34 years old, undergoes a dozen surgeries to replace her dying bones, which doctors link to the COVID vaccine.
Doctors confirm COVID shot linked to nursing home director's devastating bone rotting condition.
I don't even want to spend a bunch of time on it, but this Gene Hackman story is wild.
I mean, it is...
That's a crazy one.
Now, I got some other Hollywood stuff, but it's not a priority, so let's put that aside and then look at some of this other stuff.
Measles death of unvaccinated child in Texas outbreak, his first fatality in U.S. You're trying to fearmonger, sell vaccines, and he...
And he won the first battle, and then they hit him again, and now he's buckled a little bit, promoting vaccines in this opinion piece.
Now, he does clearly state it's always a personal option.
He does clearly state that.
But they got him to cave.
I think it's going to be SpaceX City, I think is what they're going to call it.
We'll have that on the bottom screen.
What is it going to be called?
Starbase?
Starbase is going to be the name of the city there.
It's going to be its own little...
It's own little country, I guess.
Starbase country, Starbase city in southern Texas.
But this is live right now.
We'll continue to monitor this in the final couple moments of the show here.
They're about to launch another rocket.
This is their eighth flight test.
This is their biggest, heaviest rocket yet.
And so I guess the plan is to launch it and then catch it.
So we'll be monitoring that for you, whatever we can, before we sign off.
Meanwhile, though, RFK Jr. is having other victories.
Steak and Shake.
Now, Steak and Shake was like a top burger brand.
It's not really anymore.
So they've kind of had a fall from grace.
I tried to go to Steak and Shake over the weekend in support of their decision to start removing seed oils, or they have removed seed oils from their food.
And I wanted to go to Steak and Shake.
There were only two in Austin, Texas, but they both closed down some time ago.
I wonder if they'll come back.
So Steak and Shake was probably like top burger chain 10, 20 years ago.
And then they kind of, I guess, fell off with a lot of the competition.
Now, I bet they will come back.
I bet Steak and Shake will have a comeback.
These decisions will have a comeback.
People will like kind of the old school vibe of the restaurant and sitting down.
And people will go and support just because they're removing their seed oils.
If I was in the stock market, I would probably be buying steak and steak stock, probably a good value, and I bet it goes up.
Fast food chain says they've RFK'd their fries, opting for healthier cooking alternative.
So this is how the free market works.
This is going to be a big taste.
A big taste.
A big test.
Freudian slip.
A big taste and a big test and a taste test.
If this is a success story, which I think it will be, the market will follow, other restaurant chains will do the same thing, and that's how we free market and that's how we win.
So that'll be big.
I'm telling you, cutting out seed oils, it's actually crazy the effect it has on so many different aspects of your health.
Things you wouldn't even expect.
The rumors are RFK Jr. is going to try to remove high fructose corn syrup from these soft drinks as well.
But the problem that he has, as Senator Mike Lee is pointing out, Coca-Cola uses high fructose corn syrup in the United States because the United States government has made cane sugar untenably expensive in America.
Rather than forcing Coca-Cola to change its formula for Coke in the United States, would it be better to fix our ridiculous sugar policies?
Couldn't we be producing cane sugar at an astronomical rate out of Hawaii?
Do we not still do that?
Am I missing something here?
unidentified
So that's how you do that.
owen shroyer
You get rid of the high fructose corn syrup, you get the natural sugar back in there.
We'll see.
That would be another big victory for him, should that happen.
South Carolina governor declares state of emergency as wildfires erupts in Carolina and Georgia.
175 fires burning in South Carolina.
Dry conditions, gusty winds, Myrtle Beach among these active fires.
This is still going on.
Fire crews are trying to get these under control, so we hope that they can.
And this thing doesn't get too out of control.
Alright, we are almost out of time for today.
Had to skip the geopolitical news.
The Pope is not doing well.
I've been telling you that for weeks that they're covering up how bad the Pope's situation really is.
I think we probably have a new Pope by the end of the year.
Some of this other geopolitical news we'll have to put on the docket for tomorrow.
So nobody watches the, was it the Grammys or the Oscars last night?
I really can't even tell.
Even though I have this story, it says the Oscars.
I thought it was, somebody said the Grammys, but that's a different category.
So I guess it was the Oscars last night.
Nobody really cares or watches this stuff, but it's clear what the agenda is at the Oscars now.
The big winners were some movie...
Tell me, has anybody in the crew...
This is kind of my stress test.
Has anybody in the crew ever heard of the movie Anora or seen it?
No.
Okay.
Probably nobody in the audience either.
And then there was the one film that was about the transgender drug dealer that nobody heard of either, except they were making fun of the little trailer that came out.
And it's so funny, because Zoe Saldana is actually a really good actress, really talented, but they probably told her, take this stupid, goofy role, and you'll win an award for it.
And so she did.
So, of course, the transgender drug dealer movie got awards.
And then this movie, Honora, that nobody's heard of.
Folks, this actress, whose beautiful young girl, Mickey Madison, it's just like a porno.
It's literally just her, like, doing porno and adult scenes, and then she goes up there and thanks hookers and strippers.
So you see what the—this is what it's all about now.
It's promoting to young women and Hollywood.
Go out and promote porn and be a porn star.
That's how you win awards.
Go out and promote transgenderism.
That's how you win awards.
It's not about actual substance anymore.
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