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July 16, 2024 - War Room - Owen Shroyer

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New Videos Show Where First Shots Aimed at Trump Hit as Secret Service Excuses Get More Absurd for the Security Failure

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unidentified		The silent majority is no longer silent.
		This is The War Room with Owen Schroyer.
		Please stand by for further details.
		We return you now to your regularly scheduled program.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Alright ladies and gentlemen, still shuffling through all the news and new videos we have.
		From Saturday, and let me be clear about something.
		We're not going to forget about what happened Saturday.
		That is still the biggest news story.
		Now, I know there's an RNC going on, and I got a couple of clips from J.D. Vance, and we'll talk about some of the stuff we saw there yesterday.
		But let's just be clear.
		The vice presidency pick is a big story.
		And probably maybe a week or two, we'll get back to, is Joe Biden dropping out?
		But who spoke last night at the RNC or what happened is not a big story.
		The big story is still the assassination attempt on Donald Trump on Saturday.
		That's still the big story.
		We're not going to forget about it.
		We're not going to move on. We're going to continue looking for answers.
		We're going to continue to hold Secret Service's feet to the fire on this.
		As the excuses that they're giving the American people for the security failure are so ridiculous, it's almost unbelievable.
		And now this latest bullcrap of, oh, Iran wants to assassinate President Trump.
		It's Iran. Iran's doing it.
		I mean, I don't know if there's ever been more obvious Israel propaganda in my life than that bullcrap.
		Now, maybe, I'm not saying that there's not some element of truth, but oh yeah, after this story, which supposedly some kooked out lone wolf gunman tries to kill President Trump, after the left has been saying he's the biggest danger to you in the history of the world, oh, it's Iran!
		Iran wants to do it!
		Yes, Iran! I'm sure that's not Israel propaganda.
		No, no, no, no, no.
		So we're not going to be distracted by that either.
		So we're going to look at a couple new videos and a couple new angles.
		I'm going to open up the phone lines, as I said at the close of yesterday's show, because we had some people on the line that were eyewitnesses that were there at the rally on Saturday that we didn't have time to get to.
		So I'm going to open up the lines again for them.
		We're going to be joined by former Navy SEAL and security expert Craig Sawyer in the second hour to get his opinion on all this.
		I mean, I may just even open up the microphones for the crew because, you know, they've got some thoughts and opinions and we are kind of going back and forth.
		The new video that we have, though, that I'm going to show that I hadn't seen before, there's a couple new videos.
		One I think is the most significant.
		The others just, again, just show the absolute security failure of Saturday.
		But the one shows, to me, what we reported yesterday was, as far as I can tell, the evidence is still single shooter.
		Unless there was a second shooter that was somehow on the exact same line as the guy on the roof...
		Then I don't really see any evidence of a second shooter yet that would convince me.
		And I think that there's reason to doubt.
		And this isn't me insulting the callers that were there that think there might have been two shooters.
		There are other explanations that could lead to anomalies in sound.
		Somebody could have been throwing firecrackers.
		Maybe that was intentionally to draw people off.
		I'm just saying the things that are conclusive to me that lead me to the conclusions I'm reaching.
		But we'll hear from others today as well, and we'll look at some of these new videos.
		Now, there is some other news breaking.
		But again, Saturday is still the big story to me.
		An attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
		Still the big story.
		We're not moving on. And it's sad that the RNC is serving as the perfect distraction.
		And I mean, I get it.
		It was scheduled months ago. I mean, it's not like it's intentional.
		But it's sad that the RNC is serving as the perfect distraction because it's almost like they should have postponed it and just started emergency hearings into Secret Service yesterday.
		I know that's not possible, but I mean, really, that's what needs to be going on.
		So the two big developments since we left you yesterday evening, some new videos surfacing, which to me just confirm that yes, it was the shooter on the roof of that building trying to kill Donald Trump, as another video shows where the bullets ended up, not just the ones that hit The first stands that the shooter had to go over, but then the stands behind the president as well, where other people were hit by strays and where the hydraulic system leaked hydraulic fluid that dropped the speakers.
		And so it all adds up based off the map, and I'm looking at all this, so we're going to get to that.
		But the Secret Service...
		Should have been called for hearings immediately.
		Kim Cheadle should not be doing, for the most part, fluff interviews.
		But she did a TV interview.
		She should be resigning.
		She should be fired.
		She should be called for emergency hearings in regards to this blatant security failure.
		Instead, she gets a fluff interview And she makes the most ridiculous excuses for this failure of security that you've ever heard.
		Now, maybe incompetence is a factor in all of this.
		But you know what?
		It's hard to believe that incompetence is what led to all of these things happening.
		Incompetence might have been cooked into the overall formula.
	But I don't think that was...
	I don't think that's all that happened here.
	I think there were definitely other elements at play.
	And when you consider all the different things that led to this guy getting onto the roof and firing off the shots, incompetence is just not an acceptable excuse.
	And it's almost impossible to believe that that was the only factor at play.
	So why are they saying no one was on the roof?
	Because, Kim Cheadle says, who's still the head of Secret Service somehow, because the roof was sloped.
	And it would be dangerous to have agents on a sloped roof.
	This is so stunningly ludicrous.
	That she should resign or be fired just for saying it.
	She would be better off saying, I have no clue what happened, than to make up something as ridiculous as that.
	The two snipers that there are hundreds of photos of, the one eventual sniper that took out the shooter, are on sloped roofs.
	And in fact, they have a higher angled slope than the roof That the said shooter was on.
	So you can just ball that up and throw it in the garbage upon receipt.
	That's how ridiculous that excuse is from Kim Cheadle.
	You didn't think she could look worse than she already does?
	Then she went and said that garbage.
	Now for clarification, because there was little confusion, Trump had a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania at that farm in 2016.
	When they had protection on that roof, the 2020 rally was at the airport.
	So just wanted to clear up any confusion on that.
	So they had had an event there.
	It was in 2016, different secret security head, and they did have protection on that roof.
	This time around, they did not.
	Secret Service because of a slope.
	But as you can see, that's complete and utter garbage that it's because of a slope.
	And as more information comes out, you have to wonder.
	Trump rally gunman spotted by law enforcement nearly 30 minutes before shots fired.
	It's also being reported they may have known about this guy as a suspicious individual hours ago.
	Hours before the first shots were fired.
	And they knew there was a suspicious individual on the scene.
	They lost track of him.
	Apparently he was hiding in some building.
	So they lost track of him.
	So they gave up. They just gave up.
	Let Trump take the stage.
	And then Trump shows up.
	He emerges from the building.
	Sets up his ladder.
	Climbs the building. We know that it was at least two minutes of warning that Secret Service and police had.
	At least two minutes from when he decided to scale the roof.
	But it looks like it was 30 minutes even before that.
	So this begs a couple other questions.
	That we'll probably never get.
	By the way, where has a follow-up press conference been scheduled for?
	Is that ever going to happen?
	Or are they just going to go silent and hope we're all distracted by the RNC? Why hasn't there been multiple press conferences?
	Why do we still have so many questions?
	How did he know, how did the shooter know when Trump showed up?
	I think that's a fair question to ask.
	Was he in communication with anybody?
	It would appear there were really no way for...
	There would be no way for him to have eyes on the situation.
	Because if he did...
	If he was monitoring the situation with his own eyes...
	Then there's no way Secret Service or local police would have lost him.
	So if he's hiding in a building...
	How could he possibly have eyes on when the president shows up?
	Was he in communication with somebody?
	Did somebody let him know when the president showed up?
	I think that's a fair question to ask.
	How did he know? How did he know when the president showed up?
	And if you go upon, okay, well, maybe he was going off of crowd noise.
	Maybe he went off the first time he heard Trump's voice.
	That could be possible. Well, still, in that case, Secret Service would have about five to ten minutes of warning of when this guy emerged again.
	Now do you really think he acted alone?
	They're saying that he had explosive devices in his car.
	They're saying that he had a remote detonator on his person.
	The car was parked near the rally.
	He also had bomb-making materials at home, where apparently he lived with his parents, but I guess that's in question again.
	Why did he have explosives?
	Why would he have a remote detonator?
	Where's the press conference?
	Where is the FBI? Where is the Secret Service?
	Where is anybody explaining any of this to anybody?
	And then we get, oh, Iran had a plan to assassinate the Trump.
	Oh, Iran! I see.
	The 20-year-old white boy was working with Iran.
unidentified		Yeah. Thank you for that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What a joke that is.
		I think we can pretty much just discount that as Israel propaganda right out of the gates.
		Not to say Iran might not be a threat.
		Not to say Iran might not want President Trump dead.
		But please. Oh, oh, you're going to release to us now...
		That it was a threat from Iran, which is actually even more embarrassing for the Secret Service because apparently this threat was reported to the Secret Service over a week ago.
		And they were supposed to ramp up security in response to this threat.
		And then somehow we had less security.
		I think you can just count that up as pure propaganda, pure timing.
		Now, James O'Keefe is reporting that whistleblowers have reached out to him.
		He's also encouraged anyone else with knowledge here to reach out to him and shared his number
		on his ex-account.
		I do suspect there will be whistleblowers on this.
		Even if the story is essentially a stand-down, Which is where it is all leading right now, that it was a stand-down.
		I mean, they can make the excuse of incompetence all day long.
		Well, you still stood down.
		You clearly stood down.
		You clearly had a lack of security there.
		And you stood down when you knew there was a suspicious individual.
		And nobody moved on the target when they had at least five minutes of warning.
		At least two minutes of warning knowing he was a potential shooter.
		You stood down. There needs to be an explanation.
		Whistleblowers will be coming forward, I suspect.
		So the whole thing is absolutely crazy.
		Now, there's a couple new videos.
		One that I believe is significant.
		Oh, by the way, this just happened outside of the convention.
		Police shoot man armed with knives dead near Republican National Convention.
		Columbus police officer shoots and kills man near RNC site in Milwaukee.
		Details are limited, as this just happened a few hours ago.
		So, there's another video, and videos keep emerging every day.
unidentified		Thank you.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And so many people were there recording with their phones, it sometimes takes a while for all these things to be compiled, or people to upload them, whatever else, or find them.
		Here's, while the first shots were going off, the one that grazed Trump's ear, here's the other side of the setup.
		So not the side that we were covering yesterday, which would be if you're facing the stage to the left, but now to the right, where the Lift holding the speakers got shot where the hydraulic fluid blew up and the thing fell down.
		Here's another angle where it looks like this is where the first shots actually ended up, including a couple people being hit, the rails of the bleachers being hit.
		Guys, do we have this one ready to go in clip 19?
		So here's that in clip 19.
unidentified		Take a look what happened.
unidentified		If you wanna really see something to say, take a look what happens.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so there you go.
		So a couple of bystanders were hit by the first shots.
		It would make sense since the bullet didn't stop with Trump.
		It goes through to these bleachers.
		But as you can see, if you guys just put the B-roll on screen again without the audio as we revisit the map here.
		As you can see, it looks like it still comes from the same spot.
		Now, you can get into different angles and you can get into How each one of these bullets traveled.
		But, I mean, it all looks like from the videos we reviewed yesterday and now this video today that it's all coming from the same spot.
		And that's why the person in the first bleachers were hit.
		That's why the person in the second bleachers were hit.
		And the ones that missed Trump went through and hit the second bleachers.
		So, I mean, you could really hyperanalyze this stuff.
		And probably that's what will have to be done here.
		Because nobody's going to trust what the FBI or the Secret Service says at this point anyway.
		But as you can see...
		That was a nice shot that you guys had up on the other side, too, if you rewind that a second ago, where it shows the shooter's location.
		As you can see, that's actually kind of the perfect...
		Put that one on the screen.
		That's probably the best.
		As you can see from that right there, you can see why...
		At this point, I'm convinced it was a single shooter because it all is in line where the people on the left bleachers were hit, where the people on the right bleachers were hit, where Trump was hit, and where the hydraulic system leaked behind the bleachers, all coming from seemingly that spot.
		Now, if you do want to say there was a second shooter, which some believe there was, the second shooter would have to be within a couple degrees of the same angle So that it looks like that's the guy shooting.
		Which I guess is not impossible or implausible, but that'd have to be where you're looking at.
		And we have so much footage, you'd think that we would have seen that unless the second shooter was farther off.
		But now you're getting into ballistics investigations.
		Now you're looking at evidence of where the shots hit.
		And the caliber of the rounds, which we'd have to rely on the FBI to get that information.
		And I think we all know how we feel about that.
		Now, I still believe this is the biggest story.
		And it's unfortunate...
		That my guess is 99% of the American people that are concerned about this do not trust the FBI and now probably don't even trust the Secret Service.
		And why would they? So there's going to have to be whistleblowers.
		There's going to have to be more analysis of this.
		But as I said yesterday...
		And I'll open up the phone lines now, but I only want to hear from you if you were there and you couldn't get in yesterday, or if you were at the rally, you witnessed this, and you weren't listening yesterday, but you want to talk about what you saw.
		I will open up the phone lines again, specifically for people that were there.
		And again, we had callers yesterday saying the whole thing was strange from the very get-go.
		Some people think that there were multiple shooters.
		Some people think that they heard things coming from multiple different areas.
		They thought it was fireworks.
		The sounds of the gun don't even make sense.
		I mean, I don't even want to entertain the idea that the whole thing was staged because I don't believe that at all.
		People actually got shot.
		One person was killed.
		But there may be elements, if you want to go into that angle, of something being staged that Because a lot of this stuff just doesn't add up.
		So I'm just going with what I can conclusively see for myself and logically reach conclusions on.
		But we'll open up the phone lines now.
		If you were at the rally Saturday and you want to talk about what you saw...
		Or you want to respond to some of the things you've seen and heard since, specifically if you were there, 877-789-2539.
		We'll put the number on the screen.
		877-789-2539.
		If you were at the rally and witnessed this.
		877-789-2539.
		Specifically for people that were at the rally.
		We had people holding yesterday that we couldn't get on, so I said I'd open it up again if they wanted to call in, so there you go.
		Now, having said that, let's look at some of the other craziness here.
		This is the fluff interview.
unidentified		Thank you.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That Kim Cheadle did after the security failure.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Listen to what she says in clip 16.
unidentified		Who is most responsible for this happening?
		What I would say is that the Secret Service is responsible for the protection of the former president.
		So the buck stops with you?
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		The buck stops with me.
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		I am the director of the Secret Service.
unidentified		It was unacceptable, and it's something that shouldn't happen again.
		The President and Homeland Security Secretary said today they had 100% confidence in you, but there are some members of Congress calling on you to resign.
		I appreciate the Secretary's comments, and we're going to continue to be transparent and communicate with people.
		Do you plan to stay on? Absolutely.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I do plan to stay on. So it was a massive failure.
		She's to blame. The buck stops with her, but she's not stepping down.
		And they're going to be transparent with us.
		Really? You're going to be transparent with us?
		Where are the press conferences?
		Where are any of the questions, any of the mysteries?
		Where is any of it?
		I mean, where do you start? Where do you end?
		Hey, why were there a bunch of incompetent security agents on the ground that day?
		Why were there a bunch of women patrolling and guarding President Trump that day that clearly were out of their element and didn't belong there and embarrassed themselves?
		How long did you know that there was a suspect on the scene?
		When was Secret Service first notified about the guy getting onto the roof?
		Did you stand down any extra...
		Effort for added security team, security members.
		Did you have a light security that day for any specific reason?
		I mean, I can go on and on.
		Where's the press conference?
		No, she sits down for a mainstream network news interview and says, we're going to be transparent.
		The buck stops with me, but I'm not stepping down.
		Well, why not have a press conference?
		Why haven't you been fired?
		Probably because she did her job, if you know what I mean.
		If you catch my drift Now here's Corey Mills representative from Florida
		In fact, I've gone long here, so I'll play this on the other side.
		This is, while the shooter was...
		Active. Cops trying to get to the shooter's location.
		You want to talk about an embarrassment.
		Folks, they had a fence and they couldn't even get through it.
		They had to call in a vehicle to ram it down.
		How big of a failure is this?
		This is embarrassing.
		Look at the cops struggling to get to the shooter's location here.
		literally nothing but confusion in clip 13.
unidentified		They don't even know what to do.
unidentified		it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And they have to call in a vehicle to ram the fence down.
unidentified		How is this even possible?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How could you have such a massive security failure that you're not even able to get to
		the scene of the crime?
		And explain to me why somebody hasn't hopped the fence yet.
unidentified		What are we doing here, gentlemen?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What are we doing here?
		A guy just shot the president and you're and you're ditto fucking around trying to get through a fence
		I mean, I guess you can chalk that up to incompetence I don't even know. I mean, fear?
		I mean... Folks, I've been in crowded concert grounds and hopped bigger fences than that just to get out of a crowd.
		While probably after a few adult beverages.
		And you're telling me these cops are sitting there holding each other's hands, waiting for somebody to come bust through the fence and they're just standing around?
		What in the hell went on?
		Last Saturday. Hey, we're going to get transparency from the Secret Service.
		Okay, great. When's the next press conference?
		When's the emergency hearing?
		All right, we got a couple callers, eyewitnesses, one that was even in the bleachers.
		We're going to go to them shortly.
		And let me kind of present this.
		This is about a quarter of the segment that Republican from Florida...
		Corey Mills was on CNN, you know, kind of asking the basic questions.
		But, you know, I will say this, because this happens every once in a while.
		This was probably the best example I've ever seen where something happens, and it kind of, it like slowly ramps up.
		It's like a mountain that we're climbing.
		And I don't know if we're quite at the top yet, but slowly but surely, everybody starts sounding like Infowars.
		And I don't mean that they have the same views or we see eye to eye on everything.
		I mean, it's this mindset of, okay, the world is not what I thought it was.
		Politics are not what I thought they were.
		These issues are not exactly how I saw them before.
		And now this assassination and the stand down.
		Okay, wait a second.
		So the worldview is changing.
		And everybody sounds like info.
		Skeptical about everything.
		Not trusting anything. Things are more corrupt than I thought.
		Here's Representative from Florida, Corey Mills, talking with CNN about the assassination attempt.
unidentified		I've done thousands of advances.
		I've done thousands of counter-sniper operations with our teams in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc.
		The amount of negligence, the amount of mistakes that was made here, I have a very difficult time not leaning myself towards this was intentional as opposed to fecklessness.
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		Wait, talk to me about that. I actually heard you say this the day after, which I wanted to ask you about, what do you mean intentional?
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		You mean an intentional failure on the part of?
unidentified		No, I wouldn't say an intentional failure on the part of, but I got to just, you know, I sit here and I scratch my head and you don't want to be the conspiracist.
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to be the person. I'm telling you because that's what it's leaning towards.
unidentified		No, I know. And that's the issue is that you walk this fine balance of you're not trying to be a conspiracist, but you look at it and you go, how could this have gone so far?
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		But it's one thing if someone on the street says it.
		I mean, you, Corn Mills, member of Congress, former sniper, you saying it, I mean, it makes my eyebrows go up.
		When you say you're walking the line on this, intentional what?
unidentified		You know, it almost seems to me I think that an investigation is necessary at this point within Congress, not just the FBI, not just others.
		You know, I look back at it and I'm thinking, all right, you know, for an individual, if you looked at the escalations and how they are trying to approach him, let's just say that it was like, okay, first we want to censor and silence you.
		Then we want to indict and imprison you.
		Now we're attempting to kill you and take you off stage.
		Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You, let's slow down.
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		Please. I'm hearing two things from you.
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to jump ahead of things, but I'm also hearing you jumping ahead of things.
unidentified		Well, actually, I'm just looking at all the different possible capabilities.
unidentified		You know, one of the things as a military member, one of the things, well, wait, but one of the things as a person who's running the special operations communities before, one of the people who's actually done this is that you look at all potential analysis, right?
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump and his team have said, do not...
		No, I agree. Dial it back.
		Do not blame this on Joe Biden.
unidentified		Oh, well, actually, I didn't say Joe Biden to be completely clear.
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		Who's the they then? Let's be very specific.
unidentified		That's what the investigation has to do.
		Was it local law enforcement that had made the mistakes?
		Or was there something to it?
		Was there other types of things that we need to be analyzing or looking at and providing analysis?
		My point is that when something's so significant, you're talking about something that hasn't happened in decades, right?
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		I totally...
unidentified		But my point is this. From a perspective of someone who's actually conducted these, these are not difficult advances.
		This is not like I'm putting together a stage placement and a tight shot.
		This is about looking at your surroundings.
		What is my green, yellow, and red route, which is your routes out in case?
		What is my actual elements that I need to be looking at as far as mitigating threats or risks or increased levels?
		Where's my range fan for the sniper that says, okay, here's my 100, my 200, my sketch.
		Here's an area where someone could shoot.
		Because here's my thing.
		Let's just say it's a voice element.
kate bolduan ▲ ● ▼		You're saying this is so basic that how big the screw-up was, that's what's leading your brain down this road?
unidentified		That's exactly right, in a way.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, I forget who it was, and maybe it was Corey Mills, but this is the right attitude to have.
		Screw the RNC, start the emergency hearings immediately.
		I think it was a congressman from Florida.
		I forget who it was. Maybe the crew can find it when I start going to these callers that were there.
		But that's the right attitude here.
		And look, I get it.
		The RNC was scheduled. It has to go forward.
		But... I mean, the emergency hearing should have started Monday.
		The emergency hearing should have started Monday.
		And now it's Tuesday. And what do we have?
		We haven't had a press conference.
		We haven't had a hearing. We've had a fluff interview with the...
		Failed Secret Service head who's friends with the Bidens and the Cheneys.
		A diversity hire. Coming up with ludicrous excuses.
		Completely unbelievable. And so, yeah.
		Why aren't we having emergency hearings?
		So, they got plenty of time to cover it up.
		They got plenty of time to build their narrative.
		Now they're coming out with this Iran bullcrap.
		Let's go to a couple individuals that were there.
		So we go back now to eyewitnesses who were at the rally, and we've got two Chrises here, ironically enough.
		We'll start with the Chris, the lady that called in first, and then we'll go to the other Chris who was in the bleachers.
		So female Chris, you're up first.
		Go ahead. Me?
		Yes, go ahead. Okay, great.
unidentified		So I left the hotel at 9.30.
		I was about seven miles away from the venue.
		As I was driving there, I noticed that I didn't pass any cops.
		Other than one who was pulled off the side of the road and had his lights on.
		And I thought, well, that's odd.
		Was there, like, is this the right event?
		Because I was following someone else.
		I thought that was strange because I dated a Secret Service guy back in the day.
		I knew how they prepared the area.
		Cops would be parked on the bridges.
		They would block off roads.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And that's really a local police thing where they get local police to just be kind of all over the roads, specifically the motorcade route.
unidentified		Right. It was really odd.
		So then as I'm going, I park pretty close.
		There are no cops in the parking area.
		There are no cops in the vendor area.
		No one asked for ID. No one asked for a ticket.
		You had to originally register to get a ticket.
		There was no cops in the Porta Potty area, and there was no cops in the food area.
		I noticed when we got to the metal detectors that they were kind of makeshift metal detectors, and I thought, well, this is odd.
		None of the metal detectors were going off at all.
		You had people coming through in wheelchairs, and one of my friends had a daughter in a wheelchair, and I thought, and I was watching, and I went through first, and I was watching how they checked her and her daughter, and I thought, well, they didn't even, like, ask for your, you know, lift your daughter up or anything to check under her or wand under her, because I thought, well, What if that wasn't your daughter and you're hiding something under her?
		It just kind of bothered me.
		But I didn't see them really looking under anything to really check it.
		So I was in the third bleacher.
		I was in the right bleacher.
		If you look at the three bleachers, I was in the furthest right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you were in the bleachers, too.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So were you in the bleachers where the shots that missed Trump hit right in front of the thing that was holding up the speaker that got hit?
unidentified		Yeah, two people were shot by me.
		And I was praying, because that's what I do, looking forward, and everybody was yelling, get down, get down!
		They're shooting from behind the bleachers.
		The shots are coming from behind the bleachers.
		So, and I was like, so then I think I was pushed down.
		So basically we were laying where your feet would normally be in the bleachers.
		So I thought, okay, all of a sudden a nurse says, no, jumps over me.
		And then I hear her say, I'm a nurse, I'm a nurse.
		And then she screamed, medic!
		And then I get my phone and I tried to, and I have that on the phone, but my hands are shaking.
		So there's like no normal shot there other than, um, You know, the words of her screaming and stuff.
		So I get my camera, and I take a picture between the bleachers, what's going on behind the bleacher, because they said that's where one of the shooters were.
		So I'm trying to take a shot, and I get a shot, and the police just seem like there's no event going on at all.
		And there is a guy laying on the ground.
		Somebody said someone was tackled, but of course I didn't see that.
		And someone else said there was a dirt bike.
		Which I didn't see that either.
		But I did get the picture I have has somebody on the ground between some of the other people.
		But yeah, I wasn't really sure what that is.
		And then the other thing I noticed that was weird, the music prior to Trump coming, creepy music like Disney, Celine Dion.
		I'm thinking, isn't Disney like dark?
		And Celine Dion, doesn't she have like this totally...
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I want to get back to the moment of the first shot hitting the people around you.
		I mean, in that moment, what were you able to kind of notice?
		Obviously, Trump takes the first bullet to his ear, and then they hit the bleachers behind you.
		They hit the two people on the bleachers.
		Kind of go through that. Walk me through that.
unidentified		Right. I'm looking forward.
		I'm looking to Trump. I'm praying for Trump.
		So everybody else seems to be screaming.
		They're shooting from behind the bleachers.
		The shots are coming from behind the bleachers.
		Get down. Get down. Everybody was screaming, get down.
		Someone shot. Like in our area.
		Someone shot right here. They shot him in, I think they said abdomen.
		They shot him in the abdomen.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can see that in the video.
		The guy in the white shirt or hoodie or something, he takes a bullet to the abdomen.
		You see him take the bullet.
unidentified		So I did not see him take a bullet.
		I'm looking forward. So that I didn't see.
		But like I said, what I noticed was all women's Secret Service agents, skinny guys, young Secret Service agents, short girls.
		I thought, well, what kind of protection is that?
		But, you know, that's pretty much what I noticed.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So basically, as soon as the first shot came out, you got into a defensive position.
unidentified		No. First when I came out, I'm standing praying.
		Okay. And everybody's screaming at me to get down.
		So, yeah, no, I wasn't thinking safety.
		I was thinking pray, you know.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Now, going through all this, living through that moment, I mean, single shooter came from the spot on the roof.
unidentified		Have you looked into that? I don't believe it was a single shooter.
unidentified		And the other thing was, too.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You said you don't? You think there were multiple shooters?
unidentified		I do. Because when we looked at it, whenever we heard, when everybody heard the bullets fired, everybody looked left.
		I think even Trump might have looked left.
		There was, everybody thought the bullets were coming from the front left of the stage.
		Not high in the air, you know, far to the right.
		So I thought, well, what the heck?
		Or why are we hearing it here if it's not here?
		But like I said, people were saying three shooters, but I don't know if anybody knew, but people on my bleachers sure seemed to think it was coming, something was coming from behind.
		So I would have been in the bleacher where that water thing started spraying, even though we didn't feel the water or even know about it at the time.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the only thing, the reason why I could see people thinking that is there could be echoes.
		You know, your mind tends to play games on you when you're kind of in a moment like that.
		That's not to discount your experience here, obviously.
		You know, that's just kind of what I think when I hear about multiple people.
		It wasn't just you. Other people we've spoken to think that there were multiple shooters as well.
		So when they said behind the bleachers, though, because, I mean, technically the shooter was behind the bleachers, just the ones on the far side from where you were sitting.
unidentified		Right. But according to the people that were all yelling around me, they thought they were behind our bleacher.
		So I don't think they thought the guy got shot forward-backwards.
		They think the bullet came from the back.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How loud was it?
unidentified		It sounded like firecrackers, and it sounded like firecrackers to the left of the stage.
		It sounded like the first three or four bullet shots sounded like firecrackers the left of the stage.
		So I don't think anybody panicked at first.
		Everybody was like, what the heck?
		Someone's lighting fireworks or firecrackers?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's nothing really over there that would have caused an echo.
		I mean, unless maybe the speaker picked it up.
		Maybe the speaker picked it up behind you, and it played through the speaker, and maybe that's what the sound anomaly was about?
unidentified		I don't know, but we all looked there.
		We all looked at the same area, thinking, what's happening?
		And I didn't feel that the people were scared, at least in my section.
		I felt they were mad. You know, it all went down, and we were mad.
		Not like, oh my God, we've got to get out of here.
		It was more angry.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, this has been an incredible witness testimony.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Is there anything else you want to share?
unidentified		I don't think so.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right. Well, I appreciate you calling in.
unidentified		I can tell you the picture if you want the shot from behind the bleacher.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		From your picture?
unidentified		From my camera, taking the picture between people's legs, I have a shot that may be of interest.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any videos or just pictures?
unidentified		I have videos, but they kind of stink.
unidentified		You know, like I said...
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Have you gone back and reviewed the videos?
unidentified		I did. I did.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Did it indicate anything to you sound-wise or what?
unidentified		No, because I wasn't recording at the time of the shot.
		I thought my videos were going to be too long, so I hit...
		I stopped it, and then when I hit it to play it again, or to record again, I didn't press it hard enough, so I missed it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what, we can take a look.
		I don't know if you have a social media account or you want to email that stuff to the crew, but I'm going to put you on hold, and they can get that information from you.
		Thank you for your call. We'll put you on hold, and I'm going to go to the next caller.
		Again, this gentleman was in the bleachers.
		This is another Chris, but the male Chris.
		Chris in Ohio, you're on the air.
unidentified		Go ahead. Yeah, so actually I wasn't in bleachers, I was in the seats directly in front of the front five rows bag.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh okay, I see what you're saying.
unidentified		Yeah, just to the right, close to where the lady that was just talking.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So you were right by the hydraulics fluid that sprayed?
unidentified		Yeah, I think she's describing that as water spraying herself.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So what's your response, what's your take on everything?
unidentified		Well, I heard two shots, bang, bang, and the second shot hit him in the air, and they immediately tell him, get on the ground, and he's getting on the ground, and then you hear, bang, bang, bang, bang, about seven or eight shots, hard to count them all together and a good long time goes
		by about 45 minutes 45 seconds or so and then you hear one more shot and then
		you can hear the Secret Service say the shooter's down and that's when they
		help Trump up and then get him off stage. Well you know I'm curious about
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		something you said because When I go back and I analyze the audio, it seems like the shooter had like two clusters of shots.
		The first cluster that were, you know, as good of aim as he could have in the time he figured that he had.
		That's the one that grazed Trump's ear and definitely hit the bleachers behind Trump from the shooter where our last caller was from.
		Hit that hydraulic system.
		I'm not sure which shots hit the person that was in the bleachers in front of Trump from the shooter, but it sounds like he gets off two clusters of shots.
		Then I think you hear the—and I guess this is a mystery.
		You know, if Secret Service had a press conference, maybe we could ask these questions.
		But it sounds like after his second cluster, then there's a shot back.
		Which seems like that would be Secret Service firing back, taking him down.
		And then maybe the shot you're describing 45 seconds later is a second shot from Secret Service.
		Because there's definitely that...
		And it's a completely different sound, by the way.
		It's a totally different sound than the original sounds.
		Than the original shots.
unidentified		Do you agree with that? Yes, absolutely.
unidentified		Yep, absolutely.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		But see, we don't know.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Did Secret Service take one shot?
unidentified		Did they take two shots? Yeah, we'll never know.
		I know I was filming them, and then I just sat down and was taking pictures, and I was watching the Secret Service directly behind Trump on the roof, and they're both watching that direction with binoculars.
		And then one lays down and the other one's pretty much on his knee, and they both They're looking through their scopes.
		And Trump is pointing at the teleprompter, you know, explaining what's on the teleprompter.
		And I got a picture of him pointing at it with those guys in the background.
		And then he turned, just looking at the audience, and he's waving his hand a little bit, and then he looks at the teleprompter again, and you hear, bang, bang.
		Two shots, clear shots, and it instantly goes down and then you hear like four or five more shots, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
		And people are screaming.
		And one guy, I go, get down, get down, someone's shooting.
		And someone goes, no, they're not.
		That was the hydraulics and the speakers fell off.
		And I'm like, no, no, no.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is just so crazy.
		And look, I mean, some people are familiar with the sounds of gunfire.
		Some people aren't. But normally, when it's an AR-15, I mean, it's usually undoubtedly gunfire.
		I mean, there's a distinctive difference between that and a firecracker.
unidentified		Not a firecracker. I knew instantly it was gunfire.
unidentified		But I... I assumed it was the.22 because, you know, I'm not thinking, hey, this guy's like 150 yards away.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm excited. I'm going to be asking Craig Sawyer, who's got about as much experience as this sort of probably Secret Service would, to see what he thinks.
		Because, I mean, again, I'm not claiming to be some ballistics expert.
		Believe me. I'm not claiming to be some firearms expert.
		But, you know, I've shot guns.
		I've been to the range. And it just sounded like a.22.
		I mean, that's what a.22 sounds like.
unidentified		Yeah, it sounded like a.22 to me.
		But, you know...
		Well, what do you think about...
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, from your perspective, were the shots definitely coming from your left?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Or did you hear anything from your right?
unidentified		Or what do you think about that? They're absolutely to the left, and I automatically got halfway down with my chair.
		I have a really bad back.
		I halfway got off my chair and down on one knee, and I'm kind of trying to duck behind the guy that's standing in front of me, and he's like in total...
		Some people are in panic, and a lot of people are just kind of in awe and a daze, not knowing what's going on, and just kind of standing there.
		So it was kind of a trippy experience.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what's so crazy, too.
		And I don't know if you listened yesterday, trying to just analyze the response from the crowd.
		I mean, I do think there's a level of a Trump supporter, a conservative, or maybe even when we're in a group now, that there is a level of resolve, you know?
		There is a level of resolve there.
		There's a level of, you know, we're all kind of on the same team together.
		But still, you'd think there'd be some level of panic if there was an AR-15 firing eight shots off into a crowd.
unidentified		But people... A lot of people were panicking.
		There was a lot of people that hit the ground and laid off...
		There was people right behind me, bawling behind me and crawling on her stomach to try to get out of there.
		So yeah, some people were...
		I'm like...
		Some people were in a panic and some people were just kind of still trying to figure out what happened.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean? I'm glad there wasn't some sort of a bum rush that resulted in people getting trampled.
unidentified		Some people did run...
		A lot of people in the back probably didn't hear the gunfire and didn't realize, you know, maybe didn't know what was going on.
		I don't know. Can I say something about the...
		I gotta say something about the property dividing from where the shooter was supposed to have been on this roof and where we were.
		Yeah, go ahead. So he's actually lined up with...
		There's... Bleachers on the left and then Trump and then behind Trump and then to the right of Trump where she was.
		And they're at an angle.
		And so the people on the end of the left one and the one on the right bleachers were kind of in line with Trump when they were shooting and that's why people got shot on both those corners.
		And the other thing is It's not a barbed wire fence.
		It's just a wire fence that's dividing the property where we're at, and then the property, and then there's a little bit of a field, and then those buildings, and it's just a wire fence.
		And I have pictures of it.
		Before we even started, there was only one cop car in there.
		Whether it was somebody in there or not, I don't know.
		I don't see any cops or anything over there of any kind.
		And what's weird is later on, when there was more people there, the ground slopes down.
		So all the people in the back, they're not seeing Trump.
		There's no way. The ground slopes down.
		They could obviously see the flag and maybe hear him, but a lot of people are going around that fence and going on that property and walking right up.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, those are the people that recorded and were yelling at police that there was a guy on the roof.
unidentified		Yeah. It's a total security failure in my opinion.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, and look, I would say, and Chris, I appreciate your call and you sharing your story.
		This is criminal negligence at the very least.
		I would say criminal negligence on behalf of Kim Cheadle or whoever was the head of security and securing the grounds that day.
		Criminal negligence at the least.
		At the least.
		I don't see how you can slice this up any other way.
		All right, we've got Craig Sawyer coming up in five minutes.
		And I mean, short of secret service, I'm not sure there's many men I would trust for their expertise to give us an analysis of what happened Saturday past Craig.
		So really looking forward to hearing from him.
		I want to take one more eyewitness caller before we do go to Craig.
		That's Brett, who was there and directly wants to respond to what one of our prior eyewitnesses said.
		Brett, you're on the air. Go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, what's up, Alan? So basically I want to say that those other two callers who called in and said that they heard shots coming from the opposite direction, that's really what it was like.
		So he was wondering why nobody was panicking.
		We all thought that hydraulic crane or whatever that thing was, we all thought that was like kind of malfunctioning.
		I just don't know why the shots were coming from the other side.
		Like, don't you think that's kind of weird?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm trying to make sense of all of it.
		And, I mean, okay, let's consider some potentials.
		Maybe if there were other people involved, maybe it was just setting off firecrackers to distract from the shooter, maybe, or throw off Secret Service.
		Maybe there was another shooter who was just firing at the hydraulic system to blow that thing up, to distract and kind of throw things off.
		I mean, because...
		But to me, if you look at the victims here, if you look at the people that got shot...
		It all came from the direction of where the shooter was, and I haven't seen any proof otherwise.
		So if there was somebody else shooting, maybe it was to hit the hydraulic system to throw it off, or maybe they were throwing firecrackers to throw it off.
		Hey, maybe Secret Service will tell us in the press conference coming up in, oh yeah, never.
unidentified		Well, so...
unidentified		Have you heard anything about, I think her name is Kimberly Cheadle.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we've covered her extensively.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Friend of the Biden's, friend of the Cheney's, a diversity hire in 2012, 2002, excuse me, 2022, and deleted the January 6th evidence.
unidentified		Yeah. Is she taking any sort of responsibility for this?
unidentified		Is anybody calling for her to step down?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So she gave a cable news interview.
		We played a clip of it earlier.
		She says the buck stops with her, but she's not resigning and she's not stepping down.
		It's flagrant at this point that she won't step down.
		It's disgusting. And so she should be fired, and there needs to be criminal negligence charges, I would say, if not emergency hearings at the least.
unidentified		I think so, too. And, you know, whenever I was at the rally, one of the things that kind of caught my attention, even before the shooting, was just how many small women or small people in general were, you know, in the outer and inner perimeters of security.
		I've seen one woman.
		She might have been under five foot, but we'll just say she was five foot tall.
		She almost looked like a child, and I knew something was wrong with security then.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, you are, I think we've taken maybe 10 or 12 eyewitness callers, and the one thing that remains consistent is that everybody upon arrival was suspicious of the lack of security or the state of security.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Everybody has been consistent in that conclusion.
unidentified		Yeah, right off the bat.
		Well, so my girlfriend called in yesterday, and I don't know if you got the note or not, but yeah, we were standing in a group of people.
		There might have been about 50 people squeezed into a corner, maybe 100 people.
		And this lady, she came by, and she was just dressed like a normal woman.
		And she's talking to us like she's security or like she's somebody important.
		She's telling us we have to move out.
		We have to move out. We stood our ground, but I can't remember.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Did she have a badge or like a placard or a lanyard, anything?
unidentified		Nothing. Nothing.
		That's why nobody moved. She didn't look like she was security or anything, but that's how she was acting.
		She had this Did she warn of danger or it was just you need to move like a Karen?
		Yeah, she was standing on the other side of the gate.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, I've got to let you go.
		We got Craig Sawyer coming up next, folks.
		You don't want to miss this. All right, really honored to be joined here by Craig Sawyer, who's a great American, but he also has extensive security, intelligence, expertise.
		He's a Navy SEAL. I mean, obviously knows a lot about firearms, ballistics.
		I mean, you name it. I don't need to introduce Craig to Sawman Sawyer.
		His reputation precedes him.
		He joins me now. And Craig, unfortunately...
		I'm forced to turn to you for some questions here because we're getting nothing from the FBI. We're getting nothing from Secret Service.
		Not that I anticipated we would, but this is the situation that we're in.
		Now, before I ask my questions that I have that you have more experience than I in the regards to security analysis and ballistics or, you know, those regards, I just want to give you the platform to respond to what we saw Saturday, what you noticed, what's going through your head, Craig Sawyer.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, the first thing that's going through my head is I love my country and I love our people.
		And we want liberty.
		And there's a man that we see is promising to bring that and who performed very well fiscally when he was in office before.
		And obviously, when a breach of security to this magnitude happens, we start analyzing what the heck allowed that.
		And having trained Military Special Operations Units for High Threat Mobile Security and having worked over in the war zones as an agent in charge for the Department of State Diplomatic Security Service contracts and the intelligence community doing the same thing.
		There's a lot that I recognized about the security that I witnessed on TV. After the fact that I thought, okay, well, this is low-level performance.
		And I've trained people to respond properly in these situations, and I've done it myself.
		And I just see that there is a shameful...
		There's a level of performance and professionalism there.
		And my aggravation, Owen, is not at those who are on the ground performing the security.
		I don't feel any animosity toward them because, really, the problem as I see it is further up the chain of command.
		There should have been proper assets allocated to that event.
		And obviously it wasn't that way.
		So why was there so little security?
		Why were there not assets there?
		And someone in charge who had President Trump's best interest in mind to the degree that where they would deploy friendlies on all the major terrain features where we always do.
		Anytime you've got high ground, this is something I'm sure a lot of your guests have talked about.
		All the obvious stuff, you put people there, you deny that.
		That ground, that territory, to the bad guys.
		You just do. Because you can.
		And you've got that responsibility.
		So why was all that responsibility waived, Owen, was what came across me.
		And I felt a sick feeling in my gut, like, this is not possible under any standard operating procedures.
		So, so many standards had to be waived and omitted for this to happen.
		So there's a, there, it's In any catastrophe throughout human history, it's not one thing that causes the entire chain of events to unfold.
		It is an entire chain of failures that leads to it.
		If you look at the sinking of any major ship, there's a list of things that have to fail for that ship to go down.
		And it's the same thing, in this case, with a young man with a rifle, to be able to start spraying and praying upon the president at that really pistol-shooting distance.
		For some of us.
		So it's very upsetting to witness.
		And then the aftermath of how they covered and evacuated the principle of being President Trump was even more concerning.
		And the fact that his agent in charge did not have control of him and that he was able to stand up and, you know, although I celebrate Owen, him standing up and saying, fight!
		And I mean, it's very inspiring and motivating.
		But if you look at yourself as a bad guy, if you imagine that you're a triangulated pair of snipers and your crosshairs are on him and his head pops back up, all you got to do is break the shot and his head vaporizes, there goes the end of freedom for the United States as far as I'm concerned because I don't see anybody else.
		Going up against the deep state, going up against all of those who are corrupt and ruining our nation.
		And he seems to be not bought out, not part of the system.
		So they hate him and they want him dead.
		And we are witnessing so many failures in our federal system with the FBI and the Secret Service and even within the CIA. And there are so many things that are betrayals of our nation.
		That are so heartbreaking to those of us who have served and protected our nation.
		And it's heartbreaking, Owen.
		But it's also angering.
		So we cannot sit back.
		We the citizens cannot sit back with our hands off the wheel and hope somebody else is going to fix this.
		We have to assert ourselves now.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's so much to respond.
		I want to hone in on a couple things you said here.
		And imagine, because now they're saying...
		Whether we buy it or not, that it had anything to do with this, that Iran is making assassination threats, well then why is the border wide open?
		How many people from Iran can walk right across the border then and cause problems?
		But that's just kind of a larger point.
		You mentioned the high ground.
		Have you ever seen...
		An instance where there's a high level of security and a high level principle like this, where the high ground, let's say within 200 yards of the venue is not secured, whether that was the water tower or whether that was the other structure that the guy climbed.
		Have you ever seen that before?
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		No. And when I walk in the detail, if I'm not the agent in charge, meaning the man closest to the principal that is going to protect him and personally cover and evacuate him with my body and command him what to do, I've been a sniper.
		And I carry a long gun.
		And I patrol. And if I see any high ground, I'm going up there.
		I'm not asking anybody, especially when you're running a high threat detail for a major four-star admiral or general in a war zone.
		Or a Secretary of Defense or these high-level profile individuals with a big mission.
		We've got assets and helicopters and attack helicopters and drones up and all that kind of things.
		But I don't ask anybody.
		As a sniper, I just walk up there.
		I'll climb up on Connex boxes at airports.
		I'll walk right up on top of military vehicles.
		I'm not asking anybody. I'm taking command of that space and scanning.
		I've got binos around my neck.
		I've got the ammo I need.
		We've got dual comms.
		And we're just making things happen.
		When you're responsible for the protection of someone's life who is a high value person in our
		national security, you don't cut corners and you don't send them a poorly trained detail that are
		full of diversity hires instead of people who are the most qualified and capable. And you don't
		minimize the number of assets that are required to make the scene safe and cause him to be able
		to conduct business without being gunned down. So no, I haven't seen it like that.
		And if, let's just say you and I were running into detail and we didn't have enough personnel, we're like, man, we can't afford anybody to get up on that building over there.
		Well, shit, we would ask local police to go up there.
		Sir, ma'am, can you guys go up and occupy that rooftop?
		Because that's right in our face and it's a major concern.
		It's a major terrain advantage.
		Will you please deny anyone access to that?
		Well in advance of the day.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Right?
		Well, that's another important aspect, excuse me, is just denial of access.
		This guy should not have had access to anywhere near that building, let alone the time to
		set up a ladder and climb it.
unidentified		Yeah.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		It's all true. And so then I've heard, you know, and as a federal criminal investigator,
		which is another school I've been through and another job that I've had, they,
		we, they, they teach us to consider all aspects, consider the totality of the circumstances and
		wait until you know quite a bit about all the different pieces of evidence from the different
		witnesses and all the forensic evidence before you really start to formulate your opinion.
		So I'm going to slow roll what I is going to declare happened,
		but there's just so many red flags that go up.
		It doesn't seem possible that this was just even just gross negligence.
		I think it's worse than gross negligence.
		And I think we the people deserve a very Strong and thorough and swift investigation on what the heck happened there.
		Because you have normal, everyday American citizens going, that's wrong.
		That shouldn't be allowed to happen.
		Everybody knows better.
		You don't even have to be an expert.
		So where's the investigation?
		Where's the ransacking of these agencies that failed?
		What's going on with Mayorkas and his denial of RFK Jr.
		and Trump's adequacy for the details that they need?
unidentified		This is just political violence.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		And we're supposed to be more professional and more ethical than that in our country, but the political divide has gotten so great and the vitriol on the left is so bad that they want people in harm's way.
		And when you listen to the rhetoric of what they're peddling, putting Trump in the crosshairs and these kinds of things, it's You realize they're not sorry that it happened.
		You can watch their social media feeds and see that they're not sorry that somebody tried to kill him.
		So where does that leave the general American populace?
		Who wants freedom and liberty?
		We want peace. We want to be able to vote for people that we believe are going to serve us best with free and fair elections.
		And the fact that that's not going to be allowed to happen is becoming more glaring to even the slowest sleepwalkers at the back of the pack, the mental stragglers that still don't get it.
		I don't see any reason to suspect corruption.
		It's like, what planet are you on lately?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, this was definitely a wake-up call, I would say.
		Craig Sawyer is our guest, a Navy SEAL security expert, the founder of VetsForChildRescue.org, TacticalInsider.com.
		I want to get into some more specifics here.
		What about the comms?
		How could it be, and maybe you have some direct knowledge of this, but how could it be that they don't have comms enough where there's a guy on the roof and they might say, oh, well, we don't know if it's ours or not.
		And okay, so first of all, is that even possible for them to not know if that's one of theirs or not?
		And then second of all, what would the protocols be?
		Let's say they do see the guy on the roof with the gun.
		Do they have to get the green light to fire, or is the green light presumed?
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		All good questions.
		So with the comms, you can have any of a number of different Units and agencies involved there.
		So there are concentric rings of security.
		So those closest to the high value individual, usually if it's a Secret Service detail, you're
		going to have Secret Service detail that work with him or her most closely all the time and
		have command of him and who they will, the client will respond to immediately under threat. And then
		you have adjacent units, then you'll have uniform Secret Service, and then you'll have local police
		and these kinds of things as you get further from the principal. And so each of those agencies may
		have their own comms, their own They may have their own frequencies.
		And depending on who's briefing and in control of that day and that detail, they may or may not be on the same frequency.
		And if they are all in the same frequency, it's going to sound like a superhighway of everybody talking and saying, hey, check over here.
		I got to see something under this trash can, blah, blah, blah.
		There's too much, right? If you've got hundreds of people on the net, somebody's going to have to go, hey, clear the net.
		We got real comms to make.
		So, you can have people on different channels, and it could be, Owen, that local law enforcement may have been trying to call and say, hey, we've got a guy on the roof.
		You know, is that okay? Or do you want me to cuff him?
		Or if I go up there to cuff him, is your countersniper going to shoot me?
		I mean... These things happen, but again, if there's the proper leadership and personnel assigned to this, all of that gets worked out well in advance, and the briefing happens well before game day.
		And then on game day, everybody knows who's on what frequency, and it's coordinated.
		And people that see something know how to say it and report it to whomever they need.
		The counter-sniper. Well, wait a second.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Hold on. Let me hone in on one more thing before we get into the green light or not.
		Because, you know, you have, again, I called on you to come on today because you've got as much experience as anybody I know.
		I mean, short of Secret Service dealing with high-level security.
		And I mean, I've seen this.
		I've been a principal. I've been to high-security events.
		And so I know the questions to ask.
		I've seen the levels of preparation, including with communications.
		Just with the security teams that I've dealt with for big events, small events, I've seen the preparation, I've seen the coordination.
		Experts know how to do it and they get it done.
		Period. But so, let's just say that there is this, maybe there is kind of an order here of these communications needing to go down.
		We've got two minutes, I would say, or let's just be a little favorable.
		Let's say one minute from when local police know there's a guy on the roof to when the guy fires a shot.
		Is 60 seconds enough time for these rings of communication to work themselves out to get to the sniper to take the guy down?
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, it should be.
		You know, encryption's another thing.
		So if you're on a Secret Service detail, you're going to be running encrypted radio so bad guys can't just turn the knob and listen to your comms, hopefully.
		And local law enforcement, probably not encrypted.
		So there's one barrier to interagency communications that's potential.
		So would one minute be enough?
		I don't know. But I tell you this, you should have adequate countersniper Manning and coverage so that when someone pops up on a roof, not 160 yards from you, but 2,000 yards.
		Look, I shot a 24-inch group, Owen, at 3,080 yards with a rifle that wasn't mine.
		The scope didn't even go up to that level of elevation.
		It had to hold the stadia line at the bottom of the scope.
		And it was zero degrees, and I only got to shoot three shots.
		24 inch group at 3080 yards. So you have to as a counter sniper, you've got to be scanning out
		there pretty far and you've got to have command of the terrain between the threat and as far out
		as anybody can conceivably shoot. So 160 yards man, you've just got to be able to have visual of
		that because you're up there scanning mostly with binos until you need to be on the rifle.
		But if you see so much Yeah. And stop the threat.
		You can't be calling for someone who's worried about their career and wants to consider a bunch of other things.
		How will this be for my promotion?
		And look, the sniper understands whether or not he's looking at a threat.
		Somebody preparing to shoot the president.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and this leads to the question of the green light.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he has to be cleared hot as soon as the president's on scene.
		Hey, the president's out of the helicopter.
		The president's out of the aircraft.
		He's out of the limo.
		He's on scene. The snipers have to be cleared hot.
		If you're snipers, if you don't trust them to clear them hot, you shouldn't put them up there.
		Because you're setting them up for failure.
		They have to be qualified and trained and trusted to the degree to where, hey, gents, he's on deck.
		You know, snipers are cleared hot.
		And, you know, I tell you what, if you're just going to get within reach of any president and you're going to pull out a long rifle and start pointing it toward him, well, you're going to die of stupidity that day because your head needs to vaporize.
		That's just how it has to be.
		Everybody knows that.
		So why is this young man fumbling around up there with people saying they saw him crawling around for three or four minutes?
		With his rifle flopping around before he started just opening fire.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, now we're learning he had a rangefinder.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, it makes sense that, you know, someone that means to kill somebody would bring a range finder.
		So he was up there too long.
		Shouldn't have been up there to begin with.
		And when the counter snipers saw him, they should have been able to just vaporize his cranium and evacuate that cranial space instantly because that's why they're there.
		They know how to do it. They're trained to do it.
		So why weren't they cleared hot?
		So if there was an order to stand down or if there was a failure to give the green light, that's a problem.
		That's a problem that needs to be investigated when we, the people, need answers.
		Now, we don't need to know all the tactics and how these units do their stuff, but internally, that needs to be unscrewed.
		That needs to be corrected so that it is effective in the future, because we almost lost our president.
		And it's not acceptable.
		It was a clown, so it was a goat rope.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Again, I'm not talking about the people that were on deck doing their best, but they deserve better training, better coordination, better preparation, more training time, better quality instruction and preparation, and there need to be more of them, and they need to be authorized to do their thing We're good to go.
		So this is criminal negligence to me, at the very least.
		So, okay, we're happy, obviously, President Trump didn't get shot.
		Others did, one fatally.
		I mean, let's not forget about this.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		A beautiful soul, Owen.
		I mean, when you listen to his daughter talk about how he risked his life, he threw his wife and his daughter down and covered them with his body and gave his life for them.
		He's dead because of this.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, that's what I'm saying right there.
		Right there alone, I mean, there should have been hearings on Monday and were distracted with the RNC, but the hearings should have already began because this criminal negligence did result in a death.
		It wasn't Donald Trump.
		It was another great American, a firefighter who had a family.
		So there was a death and others got shot.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		I agree. It should never have happened.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Now, have you ever heard a more ridiculous excuse than, we didn't put them on the roof because of a slope?
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		No. No, that's a mockery.
		That's insulting. The counter sniper was up on a roof with a slope.
		And it looked like a more steep slope than what the other shooter was on.
		So that doesn't wash.
		There's no merit to that claim whatsoever.
		In fact, it's insulting, and I think it's a mockery of our Secret Service.
		And I feel sorry.
		I do feel bad for the professionals in our Secret Service that have to put up with this gross mismanagement.
		I feel bad for them.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And you know, that's what is also so sad about this.
		If you look at the trust in these American bureaucracies and the federal bureaucracies, they're all at an all-time low.
		Nobody trusts any of them.
		You name the alphabet bureaucracy, nobody trusts it.
		Secret Service was probably the last one that had any level of trust.
		Secret Service was probably the last one that people didn't have just distrust or even disdain for.
		Well, after Saturday, I think that's changed.
		I don't know a single...
		I don't know a single alphabet bureaucracy now that has any trust, and now even the Secret Service.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I still have a lot of...
		I'm fond of the U.S. Marshal Service.
		I think they're still doing a lot of great work.
		And, you know, there are still holdouts in a lot of these agencies, Owen, but they're demoralized.
		by gross mismanagement.
		Same thing I saw in the Air Marshal Service.
		A guy from the top of the FBI came in there and just demoralized everybody.
		He was a bureaucrat and he didn't understand warriors and people who were there to stop terrorists
		from flying planes into buildings.
		And all he did was destroy their careers.
		And it was just bad.
		So the problem, the culture, Owen, within our federal government is weak-charactered people
		promote the weak.
		They do not promote the strong, charactered people because they don't want to be asked hard questions about why they're not performing their duties better.
		So they promote the weak to surround themselves with yes-men and women, We're good to go.
		Of political correctness.
		It has always been a psych job against us anyway.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		It's total cancer. It's total cancer.
		Craig, I'm up against a break. Hold that thought.
		I got a couple more questions about the details of that day.
		I want to get your expertise. Craig Sawyer is our guest.
		Don't go anywhere, folks. We'll be right back.
		My guest is Craig Sawyer, Navy SEAL, security expert.
		Founder of VetsForChildRescue.org, TacticalInsider.com.
		We're breaking down Saturday's assassination attempt and the radical failures that happened.
		By the way, this is breaking now.
		Way late, but here it is.
		Oversight Committee Chair to Subpoena Secret Service Director for testimony on Trump assassination attempt.
		Again, a day late.
		But, okay, here it is.
		So we'll see what comes of that.
		Now, Craig, I want to ask you about...
		And if you need a point of reference on this, let me know.
		We can have the crew pull up the video.
		But I'm curious if you can give us a sound analysis as far as what firearm you think was used.
		They're saying it was an AR-15.
		The people that were there, and myself included, say that's not what it sounds like, but I want to get your take on it.
		If you want us to play the audio, we can.
		I'm sure you've heard it, but what do you think about the audio of the shots fired?
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, just from my first hearing it, just on my phone, scanning videos that were posted on social media, it did sound like the high-pitch crack of a 5.56 round.
		So it made sense to me that it would have come from a rifle like an AR-15.
		So I didn't think it was out of place.
		But a lot of people, they don't...
		They need to recognize the difference between the report of the rifle.
		So when you're near a rifle and it fires, there's one sound.
		The detonation of that gunpowder that sends the bullet out of the weapon.
		But then when you're further away and that round passes by you, there's a high-pitched sonic crack that's breaking the sound barrier, and it sounds like a high-pitched, really loud snap over your head.
		And like a cracking sound.
		So it's different. And that can throw some people off.
		And that's why I think people were saying that maybe it sounded like firecrackers, because it's a little bit that way.
		And there's also something, especially when you're in urban terrain, or if there's a lot of big heavy vehicles around, there's a lot of echo.
		So when those sonic cracks come overhead, they'll echo off of different buildings and vehicles, and it can sound like more rounds are happening or flying in than there are, and it can also sound like they're coming from different directions.
		So it can be very difficult to ID the threat and the direction when you have those types of barricade or barrier materials that that audio can Can echo off of, and it can be very confusing.
		So it doesn't surprise me that people have different ideas on what they heard and what it sounds like because you're hearing different things.
		The report of the rifle that's going to be somewhat delayed from 160 yards, and you're going to hear that immediate sonic crack as those 5.56 projectiles snap overhead still at supersonic speeds.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So you could see potentially, and I was alluding to this earlier, you know, at least one or two shots rang right by Trump, so that means right by the microphone, and I'm thinking maybe the microphone picks up that sonic boom of the round going by it, and maybe that goes over the speakers, and maybe that's why people were confused at the direction of the fire.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		That's a really good point, Owen.
		I've got a friend that's an expert witness on capital murder cases, and he does all the audio analysis.
		He's got this giant computer bank that does all this really sophisticated stuff with the audio.
		And I've learned a bit from him, but I think that's a very astute observation on your point, because that mic, when it picks it up, then it amplifies it through the system.
		And depending on how much bass and adjustment was made to that audio system, those rounds could have sounded like 50 cal rounds coming through those big speakers, you know, further back.
		And then does that echo back?
		And yeah, that could change things significantly as far as what you're hearing, the acoustics on the scene.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Now, how much have you been able to kind of analyze the shooter and the path of the bullets and then also the sound?
		From my analysis, I have no reason to believe there was more than one shooter.
		Some people that were there have different opinions based off what they heard.
		I'm not discounting their eyewitness testimony, but from my research, it looks like, yeah, there was one shooter, the path of all the bullets, the people that got hit.
		And it looks like, yeah, that's where the shots were coming from.
		Have you been able to do any analysis like that?
		Does it make sense, the shooter, the path of the bullets, who was hit, the hydraulic system hit?
		Does that all add up to you?
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		I haven't done a careful analysis because I've been really busy working, you know, child rescue cases that are working our Veterans for Child Rescue mission.
		But I've been watching a few of the videos and looking at some of the imagery.
		I got... Uh, from, let me just say teammates of mine, uh, very early imagery of the terrain.
		And, uh, like, here's where the guy was and here's where the stage was.
		And we started having a team chat about that within the seal community about, Hey, what's going on?
		And, uh, We obviously saw that something was very, very wrong.
		So, no, I haven't really analyzed that very, very carefully.
		It does make sense, though, from what I have seen.
		I'd have to look closer to see if there's anything that's wrong.
		Counter to what they tell us happened, but I haven't seen anything from my personal limited experience on this analysis that there's anything else.
		But look, 60 years ago, they used a triangulation and they used multiple shooters and on President Kennedy.
		So why would they not do that now if it was a coordinated hit?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And it was the FBI that covered it up.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		How coincidentally they're in charge of this investigation.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we won't know unless we get a legitimate investigation.
		So it won't do to have a bureau that's investigating the attempted murder of a man that they've been targeting for years.
		They've been raiding his home on bogus charges and cooking up false accusations against him and railroading charges through on him.
		I mean... Nobody trusts them to do a good faith investigation and get to the bottom of this.
		So we need help, man.
		Our culture and our federal system is in deep disrepair and disarray.
		It's in the abyss right now.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And this just adds to it, you know?
		Yeah, it does.
		How difficult is this shot, Craig?
		And I'll try to give you a better understanding of it since you haven't really looked into all the details.
		I mean, basically... The shooter has to find his way through bleachers in front of him.
		There's kind of a tree right there.
		It doesn't look like it interferes him, but it does interfere the U.S. snipers.
		There's a system holding up a speaker.
		There's another system that looks to be holding up some electronics and the video board.
		But he's able to get through that.
		And then I guess it's about maybe a five to ten foot range, downrange, of the three people that were hit, the individual in the front bleacher, Trump, and then the individual in the back bleacher.
		How difficult of a shot is this?
		Is this something an amateur can pull off with just a few weeks of practice?
		Is this something that takes an expert level of riflemanship?
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		How hard is that shot? Oh, and if you told me, hey, Craig, I've got a daughter and she's 12 and she wants some long rifle training, I could teach her to do this shot and 10 or 15 minutes should be able to hit and do that.
		So it's a very easy shot.
		And that's what That's what gives me the impression that this guy is a patsy, this shooter.
		I don't see why he would have an agenda to kill President Trump.
		Doesn't make sense.
		So I do wonder whose control he was under and what the scene was.
		So I'd be very curious to learn what comes out of his phone, what comes out of the investigation of who he was around and who put him up to this.
		And all the coordination that went into clearing the corridor to allow him to be in that position.
		So blatantly close and within such an easy shot.
		So I'm surprised that he missed, Owen.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, it's crazy you say that because, I mean, he hit the ear, but I'm sure you've seen, I mean, a millimeter, a millisecond was the difference between life and death for Donald Trump.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		I believe that was divine intervention.
		I really do. I believe that God Almighty means for this man to get back in office and start draining the swamp.
		And I pray that he does literally and genuinely start purging our federal government of all the corruption that we're witnessing.
		It is heartbreaking.
		We love our country. We want legitimacy.
		I'll tell you one thing that I did see immediately when I was watching those that were handling the president.
		As an agent in charge, when you are the one that is most responsible for...
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Craig, I'm sorry to cut you off.
		I'm up against a break. Hold that thought.
		I want you to hold that thought about being an agent in charge.
		And then I got one more question for you.
		We got one more segment left with Craig Sawyer.
		We appreciate his time today.
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		And I've also got more eyewitnesses on the line that we're going to go to as well, folks.
		We're not going to let Saturday disappear.
		They want us to think about other stuff.
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		Last segment, Craig Sawyer.
		We're going back to eyewitnesses from the rally on Saturday.
		Craig was cut off by the break talking about being the agent in charge, responding to what he'd seen in response to after Trump got shot.
		And then I also got one last question for him.
		So, Craig, you were cut off by the break.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Pick it up where you left off. Well, what I saw was a lack of coordination between the principal and his AIC. So as the AIC, you're the person that's most responsible for putting hands on that person who's to be protected and directing them out of harm's way should there be any sort of threat.
		So usually as an AIC, you're at arm's length, arm's distance of the client or the protectee, the principal.
		And you stay there and you try to stay...
		Unobtrusive, out of their way, let them be who they are and do what they want to do.
		But you're scanning everybody's hands and you're watching and you're the closest one that's going to grab them and evacuate them.
		Something goes on. So the rest of the detail around him, some are going to face the threat and engage the threat and they're going to stop the bad guys.
		Other ones are going to collapse in around you and make what we call a body bunker.
		And they're going to use their bodies to cover and shield you as you guide him or her to safety.
		And that takes a relationship between the agent in charge, the AIC, and the principal.
		And I always brief them, sir, ma'am, here's what's going to happen if there's a threat upon your life.
		I will never be in your way.
		But if I put hands on you and I begin barking orders and command you, To follow my direction, you have to do it.
		There can't be any hesitation or argument because you could very well die right then and right there.
		So I will never touch you unless I need to.
		And when I need to, I'm in charge.
		So when I grab you, here's how I'm going to do it.
		Here's how it works. And I physically rehearse with them.
		Because again, with us doing this with big details for the State Department in war zones, we have to have it right because things go boom and shots come in all the time.
		So we get very good at this.
		Then again, in the intelligence community, it's done a little bit different way, but still very, very effective and immediate.
		And so I developed that relationship with them as any good AIC does, so that whenever there's something like that, there's an immediate intervention, that AIC will superimpose his body between the threat and the target and command that target, that person, And the protectee into safety.
		And that could be any of a number of things, depending on where they are and what's going on.
		But the agent in charge is going to know exactly what he's going to do.
		And I saw a complete breakdown of that.
		I saw someone, you could hear him in the audio saying, okay, on me, ready, ready, go.
		That team should have evacuated the principal right then and right there.
		Somebody was on it and had a plan and was ready to go.
		The rest of the team didn't follow that leader.
		Whoever's making that call. So that was a breakdown there.
		And again, I'm not beating up on them.
		Shots were coming in.
		They're high stress and all that.
		I'm saying they deserved better training and better coordination so that it went the way that it does for us over in the war zones when we have to do this all the time.
		So I saw that they didn't get up.
		And then they didn't get up.
		And then they didn't get up. I'm like, somebody commanded you to get him up and move him to the limo.
		And he should have been wheels up and out of there by now.
		So they're still sitting there.
		I'm like, man, this is bad. Then the president, and I don't blame him, he wanted to get his shoes.
		But you know what? He shouldn't have been allowed to get his shoes.
		He should have been gone, and someone else should have been bringing his shoes.
		You don't stay there for your shoes.
		And I celebrate him saying, yeah, fight, fight.
		It's inspiring. It's an iconic thing.
		God bless him. It's great.
		But again, he shouldn't have been allowed to do that.
		Somebody should have had command of him and moved him.
		We, the people, we, the public, should have never seen him again.
		Once he went down, and thank God he ducked down on his own, smart call, right choice.
		From there, they should have covered him, done a quick assessment, making sure he was ambulatory and not hit, and then evacuated him with cover to that limo and then moved off the X. But that didn't happen.
		And that's not necessarily their fault.
		How many days of training, how many weeks and months of training were they allowed?
		Did they even know each other?
		Had that team coordinated together?
		Were they just thrown together? Were they all borrowed from other agencies?
		I don't know. So that's what I saw is just a lack of the command presence and the coverage and all the directions and 360 degree command of that space that you would expect from a high threat mobile security team.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So, God bless those who are there.
		The woman in front of him is not even tall enough to block him.
		I mean, that's really the only reason why we're able to see him is because she's like 5'5", and he's at least 6'.
		I mean, what about the instance?
		Because I'm sure, and again, what you're talking about here just remains true.
		I mean, you can still see too much of him.
		So, I mean, yeah, he wants to pound his fist, and that's great.
		We got an iconic moment, but it's still the failure that you're talking about.
		And I'm sure he was kind of dazed and confused, probably lost hearing in his right ear.
		I mean, he probably may even have hearing damage.
		So, I mean, in a confusing moment like that, he's supposed to go with his agent in charge and get the hell out of there.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. He shouldn't have been allowed to do what he wanted.
		I respect his wish to do the fist pump.
		That AIC should have had a relationship with him that was such to where he laid hands on him, started moving him, checked him, and commanded him to follow his lead and guided him very swiftly to safety.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. And again, you have experience with that.
		I have some limited experience with that.
		And there's times where all kind of, you know, Go against my security's best wishes.
		But then there's also, like you said, the important aspect is having the relationship.
		So there's times where I'm like, okay, they want me out here.
		I'm done. I'm laying all my wishes and desires down.
		I'm on their call.
		And then there's some other times where I'll be a little stubborn and obstinate.
		But it's all about relationship and it's all about everybody having a feel for what's going on.
		And it seems like these things were lacking.
		I've got limited time left and you can get back into this if your next answer is short, but I'm just curious because you said this in the last segment.
		When you say you think the shooter was a patsy, can you expand on that?
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he doesn't seem like he was prepared to do this.
		And it seemed like a low-quality...
		If you're talking about assassins, obviously a low-quality assassin.
		There's not a hardened young man with any significant training or preparation.
		So if you're going to send somebody to assassinate somebody...
		If you want to be successful, seems like to me, you'd send someone that's very highly trained and hardened and prepared and problem solving and persevering and overcoming challenges and getting past that and carrying out the task anyway.
		That's why Navy SEALs are so well trained.
		We're prepared to solve the problem.
		Whatever the bad guy is that we want to go away, they're going to go away.
		Whatever the thing is we want to break, it's going to get broken.
		Whatever we want to recover, we're going to bring it back.
		So we're trained to override and overcome all these challenges that pop up.
		So he doesn't seem prepared to do much of anything, and he couldn't even make a 160-yard shot, roughly.
		So I think because it's obvious that so many people in high places want President Trump dead, I think this guy, there was, to them, a throwaway.
		Now, he's a soul, and he's precious to the Father.
		He did a horrible thing, but he's dead now and I don't know how that's looking.
		I wouldn't wish anybody to lose their life, but if you're going to raise a weapon towards our president, you have to lose your life.
		That's the way that needs to go.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Do you think he was set up to do this?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Do you think he was acting alone?
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		That's why I don't think we'll see a good faith investigation because of the corruption, Owen.
		I would expect this guy to have handlers and been put up to this and probably on psychotropic drugs and a list of other things that we've seen that are kind of standard for this kind of crazy active shooter that on the heels of it, immediately we have the left come out going, oh, we've got to take your guns.
		How convenient. Active shooter went crazy and they never addressed the causation of why this young man is so broken.
		And a broken home, psychotropic drugs, and all these kind of things that they don't address.
		They just want to go after the tool that he used, the object.
		Well, it's not the object. Well, I've grown up surrounded with those objects, and nobody I know ever shot anyone else.
		So it's the culture.
		It's a dark heart that kills other humans.
		It's not an inanimate object.
		So I mean, I had a...
		A famous quarterback from Dallas' son connect me to President Trump's security detail before he got in the first time, and they were going to have me train their guys and prepare them to a very high level before he went into the president.
		Apparently, he was going to use his own detail, and I don't know if he's Yeah.
		people he knows. Yes, yeah, yeah, because the stakes are high and the tensions are high and the
		hostility has never been greater and I hope he's not still naive to the fact that they want him dead
		and they have a very dark direction they want to take our country and we need fighters and we need
		someone who will get in there and drain the swamp and purge our system of this corruption.
		Nothing else matters. I don't care what their ticket is or, hey, we're going to do this for industry or economy.
		None of that matters because if you don't drain the swamp and get rid of all the crooks that are ruining everything in our system, they're just going to reverse it and make it even worse as soon as he's out of office next time.
		So nothing matters more than draining the swamp.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Nothing. Yeah, the Vivek Ramaswamy interview yesterday, he said we need to gut 75% of the federal bureaucracies.
		I would say that's a good start.
		Craig, just do the short five more minutes because I want to expand on the Patsy thing because I think there's another interesting and important aspect to this I want to get your opinion on.
		Five more minutes with Craig Sawyer.
		Don't go anywhere. All right, five more minutes here with Craig Sawyer.
		We appreciate his time.
		I had to dig into one more thing talking about this Patsy and the significance in his eyes.
		Of the reports that he had his van loaded with explosives, apparently a remote detonation device just outside of the event, and then apparently more bomb-making materials at home.
		Craig, when you hear that, what comes into your mind?
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Unlikely, right?
		Where's a 20-year-old young man gonna get explosives?
		Especially one who's not, you know, been in the military or in a criminal network Or otherwise have any history or connection to serious violence.
		That's very stunning.
		That to me indicates that somebody in high places connected them to that.
		Now, it depends on what kind of explosives.
		Are they military explosives?
		Are they mining explosives?
		What kind of charges are they?
		What are the lot numbers?
		Where'd they come from?
		You know, that's part of the investigation.
		I'd like to know as an American citizen, okay, what was the routing?
		How did this young man get ahold of some explosives?
		Maybe he's got an uncle that's in construction and he has to have it or something like that.
		But I don't know a lot of people that just have explosives in their car, Owen.
		I think that's an indication that somebody with some significance and some pull...
		I prepared him and loaded him up with some things and put him up to it.
		That's just my gut instinct without knowing more.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would agree that it would appear again that this is not a lone actor considering this.
		But it also makes you wonder, and I pitch this back to you, well, what is he even thinking?
		What is he thinking in this moment where he's going to detonate the vehicle or he's going to blow something up after he shoots the president?
		I mean, it doesn't add up. I mean, he had to know...
		Whether he gets the shot off or not, he wasn't leaving the venue.
		And if he wasn't wise enough to realize that, then again you go back to, clearly he's not acting alone.
		He couldn't have pulled this off if he's that dumb.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. I don't know how that would work in concert.
		I don't know what he was thinking there.
		He could have used it as a diversion, but there goes your van.
		But I guess if you're looking to give your life, sacrifice yourself anyway, then who cares about your car?
		So, I really wouldn't want to speculate.
		There's a lot of things I'm sure I could come up with, dream up all kinds of scenarios, because Navy SEALs, we're creative, man.
		We come up with all kinds of stuff, but I wouldn't want to cause any confusion.
		I want the American people to know whatever it was that did happen.
		And so, I mean, he could have, one of his options might have been to drive the van into harm's way and detonate it and harm a lot of people or get it close somehow to the president if he thought he might have that opportunity.
		Maybe that's why he had the explosives in the vehicle.
		I don't know how, you know, was the vehicle wired?
		Were they ready to go?
		Were they ready to detonate?
		Did he have a remote? Where he could detonate it, or do you have to pull some sort of time fuse and detonate that more manually?
		I don't know any of that, so it's hard to tell what he would have been up to.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That's the problem is, still no press conference.
		And no signs of when a press conference will happen.
		But, you know, even if there was, Craig, the problem is that you're not going to be there asking questions.
		I'm not going to be there asking questions.
		You're going to have dolts from the mainstream media there asking worthless questions or too afraid to ask real questions.
		And so, unfortunately, I really feel at this point, that's why I'm not letting it go.
		I really feel at this point, and I mean, it's proof.
		At this point, it's up to the American people to keep this thing alive, to ask the questions
		and try as best we can to figure out what happened here because we're getting nothing
		from Secret Service of any value.
		We're getting nothing from the FBI of any value.
		If it wasn't for individuals there recording videos, reporting from the scenes, talking
		to one another, then we would know nothing.
		We would literally know nothing.
		And if not for Elon Musk purchasing X, they'd probably just censor all of this off that platform.
		Craig Sawyer, appreciate your time.
		As always, vetsforchildrescue.com.
		Keep up the great work there.
		And God bless and Godspeed.
craig sawyer ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Owen. I appreciate you, brother.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right, ladies and gentlemen. Again, you're not going to get much more of a better expert than Craig Sawyer on this stuff.
		So we're really appreciative for him to share his knowledge and expertise.
		When we come back, we still have some other eyewitnesses on the line that want to talk about what they saw that day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I'll make another prediction.
		If the judge on July 11th orders some Clapton irons and sent to Rikers Island, he raises $1 billion in one day.
		And then $500 million every consecutive day after that, as long as he's in jail.
		But there's the problem.
		They're going to kill Trump in jail.
		They're going to poison him in there.
		There's no doubt they want him dead. I mean, my God, you'd be crazy enough to know that.
		Poisonous food, like Jeffrey Epstein will...
		They choked him to death, broke his neck in three places.
		Coroner said he looked like foul play, looked like murder.
		But the national media said, no, that's not the case.
		Bill Barr said it was, he hung himself on the paper bedsheets.
		He was on a suicide watch. All the cameras turned off on accident.
		They charged the cops that let it happen, but later dropped it.
		Hey guys, we're gonna charge you, you know, the money's on the Swiss bank account, don't worry.
		They dropped those charges.
		So everybody that thinks we're out of the woods on this, We need to pray for Trump.
		He needs to watch what he's eating.
		He knows that. They want a poisonous food.
		He's well aware of that. Or water.
		Or Diet Coke. And if they kill Trump, that's when they're going to stage the massive terror attacks and blame it on Trump supporters.
		To then say, well, somebody killed him and now they're doing this as evil supporters.
		Now we gotta get them.
		And that's why they want me off the air during this period.
		So that I'm not able to war game all this and get this out.
		But you don't worry. You're pretty little heads, CIA. Unless you do a total internet kill switch, which I know you're going to pull during this, you're not going to stop me talking.
		Plus, I'm going to live in people's heads and people are going to record this broadcast right now.
		Just like I told you, call the White House, tell them don't blow up the World Trade Center using hijacked jets and blame Bin Laden.
		And I said, call the White House on TV and radio.
		And by the way, everybody's seen the July 25th broadcast?
		Chase Geyser, using AI, has scanned through a bunch of the shows.
		He's got me in March of that year saying that.
		It's not about how early I did it.
		It's just that some people say, oh, you didn't predict this first.
		Yeah, people said they're going to do terror attacks and blame Bin Laden.
		I said they're going to fly planes to the World Trade Center and blame him.
		Nobody predicted that with me. And we're not trying to keep score here.
		I'm just saying, listen to me.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So that was Alex Jones' last month warning of an attempted assassination against Trump, and he's been warning for a while, and I know it's like putting something down and then forgetting where you put it or you can't find it, but...
		I'm almost positive I heard it.
		It's like, oh, I know I put that there.
		Why can't I find it? But I'm, you know, I'm like 99% positive, and I've got a pretty good memory, photographic memory.
		What do you call it if you have like an audio, like an audiographic memory?
		I'm 99% positive Alex Jones was on an X Spaces with the Krasenstein brothers talking about a potential assassination about a month or so ago, and...
		Alex, don't talk about that.
		You need to stop saying that.
		Trump's not going to be assassinated.
		That's just so inappropriate.
unidentified		You should not talk about Trump's assassination.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, it's impossible to find stuff on X spaces, and that's not really my forte, but I know I heard that.
		But regardless, we have other broadcasts, and they've scanned through other broadcasts and seen him predicting it, and it's unfortunate.
		It's unfortunate that Infowars is next year's news day on so many issues.
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		All right. Let me kind of reset things here as we're in the final hour and I have other eyewitnesses.
		Look, I still got a bunch of video clips on my list.
		I got RNC clips.
		I've got more from Joe Biden now fumbling and slurring through interviews.
		He forgets what year it is.
		Yes, that's how bad it is.
		He's speaking in Las Vegas at the NAACP. I mean, folks, just complete gibberish now.
		I'm just not going to play those today.
		I want to prioritize this assassination coverage still.
		Because it's just stunning to me this isn't the main story still.
		And so I get it.
	Biden not knowing how to talk is a shiny object over here.
	And I get it in the RNC and all the stuff over here is another shiny object.
	And it's like it's all these shiny objects and that's fine.
	We're not going to get, I don't believe, an honest investigation into the assassination attempt.
	And I got a lot of questions still.
	So what do I do? I go to the experts.
	I go to the eyewitnesses.
	Now, at some point, I'll probably cover some of this other news because, I mean, some of this is big news.
	And maybe I'll do a response to J.D. Vance.
	Maybe I'll talk about this other talking points and narratives coming out of the RNC. Maybe I'll get some of these video clips, a big clip from RFK Jr., And some of the other developments.
	But this is the issue.
	I'm not dropping this.
	Somebody... We know people want Donald Trump dead.
	We know people at the highest levels of power want Donald Trump dead.
	They just tried to kill him.
	We were within one millimeter and one millisecond.
	And still nothing from the FBI, nothing from the Secret Service other than complete bullcrap.
	So, no, I'm not dropping this.
	No, I'm not looking over here and playing the 10,000th video of Joe Biden not knowing how to talk, forgetting what year it is.
	No, I'm not going to go over here and obsess over the RNC speakers, which, by the way, no one's going to remember who they are in a year from now.
	Who spoke at the 2016 RNC? Can you tell me?
	No, nobody remembers. Donald Trump nearly got assassinated.
	That's the important story. I want to go back to eyewitnesses.
	And so this is just incredible.
	More have called in. I'm going to go to the ones that have been holding the longest.
	So let's start with Sean.
	Eyewitness there at the rally.
	Sean, you're on the air. Go ahead.
unidentified		Yeah, I was at the rally.
		I was to the left of Trump.
		There was a large tractor over there.
		And I started hearing, it sounded like fireworks going off.
		And I happened to look up and there was a guy in the stand.
		Farthest thing to the right, the very end of the stand, looked like he was dancing.
		And you could hear ting, ting, ting, ting.
		But it also sounded like there were shots coming from behind too.
		It sounded like somebody, first I thought somebody let off the fireworks.
		But it did sound like firecrackers.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So do you, because we just had Craig Sorin do you think that could have been the sound of the bullet whizzing by with that popping sound?
unidentified		It's a possibility, but there was a trailer behind the stands, and it sounded like something was hitting that from behind me.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Now, would that make sense based off where the shooter was and where the bullets were coming from, that it was his bullets hitting that?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Because it was kind of right there in his sight line.
unidentified		It's a possibility.
		It's a possibility.
		I mean, I was almost directly across from him.
		And I assume that's where he was firing from.
		But I did see an article where they were saying that there was three weapons that were fired.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I don't know if you saw earlier, because we did show a new video today that shows the first shots cleared Trump.
		And hit the bleachers that if you're facing Trump to the right of Trump, two people got hit, the bleachers got hit.
		You can actually see the bullets hitting the steel frame.
		One hit the hydraulic system that was holding up the speakers.
		And so we know that those bullets cleared Trump and then hit those bleachers, hit those people, hit that hydraulic frame.
unidentified		I did see that.
		That's probably what I saw when I... I could hear it because there was a guy out there who looked like he was dancing.
		He was moving, like, dodging something.
		I thought he threw firecrackers back on the ground.
		That's how close it was.
		And it sounded like a whole pack went off.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So this is strange to me because it's the same thing I'm hearing from the eyewitnesses.
		From the audio, again, it sounds like maybe eight shots were fired at Trump before Secret Service took him out.
		Are you saying you think it was more?
unidentified		I think it was more.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I wonder if there's something to that or if there's not some other anomaly like an echo or the microphone picking up the bullets whizzing by.
		But you're not the only one that said that.
		In fact, pretty much everybody said that.
unidentified		Wherever I was standing, that's where the Secret Service rolled up with the president.
		And, you know, we knew when he was coming because you could see all the vehicles coming out.
		And I had left at a point where I was several times and was We're freely able to walk back and forth.
		I didn't see too many people prior to him showing up as far as Secret Service people.
		The security was definitely black.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, everybody agrees with that too.
		Sean, I appreciate you calling in and sharing this.
		I'm going to try to get to some other callers here because we've got a couple still on the line.
		Let's go to Jeff, who was at the rally.
		Says he was in the front row.
		Jeff, which front row were you in?
unidentified		Yeah, I was in the rally.
unidentified		I was in the fourth row, right in the front.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry. Okay, fourth row on the ground or on the bleachers?
unidentified		Yeah, right on the ground. Right on the ground, right in front of Trump.
		We got there. I live in Butler County, so I've been on a few Trump rallies.
		When he was coming here, I definitely was going, so I was waiting for him to come.
		So me and my brother and another buddy of mine went there on Friday.
		We slept over tonight in my truck on a parking lot property.
		The next day we got up.
		We waited around. We walked around the venue.
		We're seeing how they were setting it up.
		And it looked really small to begin with.
		And then I saw the water tower, and I told my brother, I'm like, look at that water tower.
		Why would they position this right here?
		And look at all these hangers.
		There was hangers to the right and to the left, like airport hangers everywhere that had a perfect clear shot to the stage.
		And I'm like, they're going to fix this, though.
		We leave, and they kicked us out.
		Friday night, like 10 o'clock, they kicked us out.
		And they said we had to go across the street.
		It was Saturday morning at 8 o'clock, they opened the gate, and we ran up and got a spot in line, one of the first spots in line.
		So when I see that tower there, again, I'm like, somebody's definitely going to be in there like a sniper for the government or something, you know?
		And then I'm in the rally, and nobody's up there.
		When I got in the rally, nobody was up there.
		And I looked up there, and there was nobody there, and I thought it was very strange.
		But then my mind went off it, and I was watching the rally.
		And then another thing...
		Oh, but then I saw, like...
		All of a sudden I heard pop, pop, pop, and it sounded like a cap gun.
		It didn't sound like a loud gun.
		It sounded like a cap gun. So then we see Trump go down, and I knew he was hit with something because I seen blood.
		And then I thought, well, maybe it wasn't that bad because it didn't sound like that high caliber of a gun.
		But it just seemed really strange.
		And then they didn't have nobody up there.
		And then before, my brother, we were watching Trump.
		He'd come on for about five minutes.
		He didn't know his speech. And my brother sitting next to me goes, we'll get the sniper up there to the left.
		He's scoping somebody out. I look up at him, and I'm like, yeah, he is.
		Wow. He's watching something.
		So I'm watching him for a minute and taking my eyes off Trump, and I'm watching this sniper up to the left, and he's over his gun.
		You can clearly see he's looking at something.
		So I'm watching him for at least two or three minutes goes by.
		Then I was like, nah, it must just be normal stuff, you know?
		So I took my eyes off him and went back to Trump, was watching Trump.
		That's when 30 seconds later, pop, pop, pop.
		And then Trump went down, and you heard a couple more shots.
		And then it was just people didn't run.
		People were mad. People were mad that it happened, and it was pretty crazy.
		And another thing, security there, not the security for the president, but the security for the crowd, like crowd security, there was none.
		They normally let you line up, the first people to get in, they get into the seating area
		and it's fenced off.
		And they normally let you go in there and they count you as you go in for as many seats
		and you get a bracelet.
		They guard that gate and they keep the aisles clean so if you have to go to the bathroom
		or something you can come back and get back in your seat.
		Well you can ask anybody that had a seat in there, if they left they couldn't get back
		There was zero crowd security.
		I think people were hot.
		It was a 95-degree day.
		It was just a setup for disaster.
		I mean, I tried to go to the bathroom and get back to my seat, and I almost got into three fistfights on the way back.
		So it was like there was no crowd security at all.
		I didn't see one crowd security guy at all.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, every witness has agreed with that.
		And again, folks, I've never, I've been to all kinds of events where the president, I've been to events where George Bush was there, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Donald Trump.
		I've been to debates. I mean, I've never seen, I have never seen a situation where a government sniper, a law enforcement sniper does not have the high ground.
		I've never seen that.
		Even if the priority, even if the president or whatever is indoors, outside, outside the venue, they still have the high ground.
		I've just, I've never seen that.
		I just, again, criminal negligence at the least.
		Intentional negligence, I think, is what more people would believe at this point.
unidentified		Jeff, anything else? Yeah, one other thing.
		I forget what the hell I was going to say, but yeah, they definitely, it seemed like a setup to have like a ride happen, at least.
		And I definitely know that something was wrong because you could tell that there was nobody out there, and it just seemed really strange.
		So there's definitely something going on, but I hope they get to the bottom of it.
		I wouldn't trust an outside rally again if I was Trump, and I wouldn't trust the Secret Service ever again because the lady in charge is probably the one that ordered it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know how you could.
		And I know he put out the statement, positive of Secret Service.
		And look, I'm not going to get into the game of trying to blame or judge or get into Trump's head after this.
		So I get it.
		He made that statement. But yeah, I don't know how you could trust Secret Service after this, at least the leadership.
		So now, but you know, it's amazing too.
		And thank you for the call, Jeff. It's just incredible, folks.
		I mean, think about all of these government agencies that have tried to destroy Trump at this point.
		Even the Secret Service, potentially.
		And so, yeah, you can play this game of, well, it's not the CIA officer that's boots on the ground.
		It's not the field agent for the FBI. You know, it's not the Secret Service guy that's there putting his body in front of Trump.
		Well, it's the leadership.
		It's clearly the leadership.
		So, okay, so as we sit here, we're waiting for a press conference.
		I mean, who knows?
		Who knows if we'll ever get a press conference.
		You got Kim Cheadle, the head of the Secret Service, doing fluff interviews on cable news, saying, I'm not going anywhere, but it's my fault.
		Okay, well. And now, breaking today...
		Oversight committee chair to subpoena secret service director for testimony on Trump assassination attempt.
		But, you know, she'll probably just, you know, just refuse the subpoena and she won't get arrested because she'll be above the law.
		She's probably a Democrat in good standing.
		She's a deep stater in good standing.
		Brought in by Biden.
		Apparently Jill Biden. So, that's what you get.
		But James Comer has subpoenaed her.
		My goodness. Alright.
		Um... Unless some other eyewitnesses that we haven't had on call in, I'm going to start getting into some of this other news because there is a bunch of big news and some other things I need to address to the audience so that you can know what's going on because that's what we want to do here is just keep you informed and when you see stuff, you're already informed, you're already prepared.
		So I got to prioritize.
		But, you know, this is all par for the course.
		So if there are eyewitnesses that were there that want to call in that we haven't had on yet, 877-789-2539.
		I'll take your call. I'm going to move on for now.
		Florida woman accused of threatening to kill Governor Ron DeSantis.
		So just chalk it up on the list.
		Now, there's a video going around, and some people are saying it is the alleged shooter.
		I don't know. That's not been confirmed.
		But in a way, it almost doesn't even matter.
		We played this video. It's crazy that this is from four years ago.
		Because you may remember it.
		I remember it. It didn't seem like four years ago.
		Shocking moment. ASU student says, slash Republican throats after Trump's acquittal.
		So he's running around Arizona State's campus.
		There's a, I think it's a TPUSA booth set up.
		And he's going, slash all Republicans.
		Kill Republicans. So this is what the left has done.
		They've created these psychotic maniacs.
		I don't even want to spend the time.
		It's clip seven. But it's the same thing.
		Oh, a woman threatens to kill Ron DeSantis, smiling happily for her mugshot.
		Usually they don't even let you smile for the mugshot.
		Now again, I don't know if this is the shooter or not.
		Nobody's confirmed it. My point is that a lunatic running around ASU's campus saying kill Republicans slash Republicans, that's what the left has created.
		That's what the left has created.
		Here's Biden. Asked about Secret Service if he's contacted Kim Cheadle.
		And see if you pick up on his major flub when asked about that in clip 10.
unidentified		Is it acceptable that you have still not heard, at least publicly, from the Secret Service director?
unidentified		Oh, I've heard from him.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you've heard from him.
		That's funny because it's a she.
		It's a woman. So obviously you haven't.
		So Joe Biden has not heard from the Secret Service head, Kim Cheadle.
unidentified		He lied. He blatantly lied.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Are we surprised?
		Donald Trump calls for Secret Service to protect RFK Jr.
		RFK Jr. then receives it.
		The vice president picks For RFK Jr., Nicole Shanahan releases a very scathing statement of the Democrats after the assassination attempt.
		I believe it's worthy of a read.
		We radicalize our country.
		I am very glad Trump's safe.
		The demonization of his image by the DNC and legacy media is responsible for the hysteria that is ripping this country apart.
		Now having been on the receiving end of the DNC's campaign of lies, I know most of what they've said about Trump's danger is an absolute falsehood.
		My heart breaks for the family of the individual whose life was lost at the rally in such a violent way.
		Let this be a lesson to all political leaders.
		When you dehumanize your opponent and radicalize your base, you are responsible for the violence that inevitably ensues.
		But, you know, there's another important characteristic of this.
		They lie. And that's why she points it out.
		It's lies. It's lies about Donald Trump.
		It's the lawfare. It's the weaponization of government.
		It's all of this character assassination and attacks on him based on lies.
		Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s son saying, how could Secret Service have such a failure?
		Simpsons episode, poll after Donald Trump's assassination attempt.
		The Simpsons actually got this one wrong.
		In the episode, they had Trump getting assassinated.
		He survived. How epic is that?
		Alright, we got another eyewitness from the rally I want to go to now.
		And we'll hit some of the other developing news.
		I mean, there is some big developing news.
		Bob Menendez found guilty.
		Elon Musk makes a couple big announcements.
		What happened with the Morning Joe show?
		I mean, there's some other stuff we need to cover, but I want to go back to this eyewitness.
		We have Steve. He was at the rally, and he has a good eye, he believes, on where the shots were coming from.
unidentified		Steve, you're on the air. Go ahead. Hey, thanks for having me.
		Yeah, I was about 100 yards from President Trump, probably 70 or so from the shooter.
		I had a clear shot of where that shooter was, and it was very clear where those shots were coming from.
		I simply grabbed the kid next to me, and we just got down.
		Probably several minutes later, after we heard of the other shot from the counter, We were told to go ahead and leave.
		And I honestly thought it was very orderly getting out of there, other than waiting forever, which was to be expected.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I mean, anything else you'd like to report?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Want to respond to any of the other analysis that we've had here?
unidentified		No, but I didn't think I heard seven or eight shots from the shooter.
		I thought I heard, I'm pretty sure it was three or four.
		And then I heard more from the shooter.
		Counter shooting back.
		But that's about all I can report.
		I thought it was pretty orderly getting out of there.
		And to be honest, the whole time I was there, I felt safe until this.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Where were you located exactly at the venue?
unidentified		Like, I wasn't in any of the stands or any of the...
		I was way back.
		I was probably 100 yards from the podium and to the left.
		Trump would have been to my right.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You would have had a good shot of where the people...
		Did you hear the people screaming that he was climbing on the roof?
		Yes. Talk about that.
unidentified		It was a little muffled.
		It didn't really...
		I wasn't putting it together what they were saying because I was kind of focused on Trump, but then I turned and...
		People were just around the building.
		Somebody screamed.
		There's somebody on the roof.
		And that was about it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So you could tell, though, that something was wrong.
		There was something going on over there.
		Oh, yeah. From your best memory, how long did it take you to realize that was going on to when the first shots were fired?
unidentified		The graph that President Trump put up had just been put on the screen, and then he had
unidentified		just started talking about it.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So that's about two minutes.
unidentified		Yeah.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and that's because we've run the stopwatch on the multi-video, kind of the multi-split-screen breakdown, because that's what he's pointing to, obviously.
		He's looking to his right.
		He's pointing at the illegal immigration numbers, and about two minutes later, the first shot goes out.
		But it's right when that video board switches to those numbers is when everybody is screaming about the shooter.
		Right, exactly. I mean, it's just amazing that there was no response.
unidentified		I mean... Yeah, it just happened quickly.
		And looking back, it happened quickly.
		But as it was happening, it seemed like it kind of dragged on, but it really didn't.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So what's going through your head in these two minutes?
		Are you thinking, why isn't this being taken care of?
		Why is Trump still on the stage?
		Are you just not thinking about it?
unidentified		When I first heard the shot, I looked at...
		Before I even heard the shot, I saw him...
		I thought he swatted a mosquito or something.
		And then you could hear, you know, the shot came only because the difference between the sound and the light, you know.
		Like, it was real quick. Like, he went like this, and then, you know, the shot...
		Kind of caught up to everything.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Interesting. Anything else you want to report?
unidentified		No, but I really appreciate the opportunity.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad you called in to share your story from what you witnessed that day.
		That's probably the only perspective we've had from where you were located.
		Strangely enough, everybody else has either been on the bleachers or in the chairs, which is like the toughest part to get to at these rallies.
		So I'm glad we're hearing from you as well.
		All right. This is just crazy.
		Now, if you haven't heard about the Kim Clement prophecy about Donald Trump, it's crazy in and of itself.
		This guy, a decade ago, predicted Donald Trump would win and then win a second term later.
		Kim Clement is now dead.
		I've never seen this one, and this is just...
		The prediction here is like 10 minutes long, and it gets even crazier in more detail.
		But apparently you have multiple people...
		Prophezizing years ago, decades ago, about Donald Trump's presidency.
		This one's pretty wild here in clip four.
unidentified		All throughout America, all throughout, and I saw Trump rising up, and then I saw an attempt on his life.
		This bullet flew by his ear, and it came so close to his head that it busted his eardrum.
		And I saw he fell to his knees during this time frame, and he started worshiping the Lord.
		He got radically born again during this time frame.
		I'm talking... People say he's saved now, but he becomes really on fire for Jesus, for what I saw coming.
		And then I saw people interceding, and I saw him winning the presidency through great...
		The Lord showed me it would go clear into the summer.
		Great persecution would come on him through the judges and through the law and all these people trying to sue him and all this stuff.
		But there would be a stop to it, and things would start to break free come toward the fall.
		And then I saw him winning the election through the patriots coming out and voting.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So again, it gets into more crazy detail with more accuracy.
		So that's now two people that have prophesied about Trump's presidency.
		And you know, I don't want to spend too much time on this, but to get off course for a second, you know, this is one of the great mysteries of our existence, our life, our consciousness.
		Dreams coming true.
		Have you ever had a dream come true in detail?
		I have. Not anything too significant, but something I really remember as a kid was a dream I had about a big soccer game I was in, and then a play happened exactly how I dreamt it.
		It happened, and I kind of stood there.
		It was the first time I was like, whoa.
		I've had instances where something that happened in my car exactly happened before.
		So it's happened maybe four or five times where distinctly a dream happened afterwards exactly as I dreamt it.
		You also have...
		And guys, the words on the tip of my tongue, when something happens and you feel like you've had it happen to you before, deja vu, thank you crew.
		How do you explain these things?
		How do you explain deja vu?
		How do you explain dreams coming true?
		I mean, literally you dream something and it happens exactly.
		How do you explain profits?
		What is that great mystery of our life?
		What is that incredible mysticism of our consciousness?
		You know, these are the things that we should be thinking about, talking about, digging into, the epicness of all of this, this existence.
		And instead, we're sitting here fighting with one another over power and greed and pride.
		But I digress.
		Now, so Trump, it appears, gets hit in the ear, probably does have hearing damage.
		There's these fake images going around.
		Of, oh, Trump's faking it.
		He didn't actually get hit in the ear.
		Look. And there's an image from 2022 of Trump on a stage with J.D. Vance without a bandit engineer.
		And they're saying, look, here's Trump on the stage with Vance.
		He faked it from years ago.
		Had millions of views.
		There's another one of Trump at a golf course.
		Because, you know, he played golf the next day, supposedly.
		And they're sharing this image of him on a golf course saying, oh look, he's faking it.
		He's on the golf course. He doesn't have...
		Again, it's from before the shooting.
		So if you see these images of Trump not having a bandage on his ear and people saying, look, he's faking it, they're fake images.
		I mean, these are the real cheap fakes.
		These are the real cheap fakes.
		And look, I've got all these examples of Democrats saying, no, we're not going to tone down the rhetoric.
		No, we're not going to stop talking this way about Trump.
		I don't have time to get into it all.
		A bunch of big news to cover.
		I'm going to try to get to all of it in this last segment of the Infowars War Room, brought to you by Infowarsstore.com.
		Yeah, I think Marissa Henson has it right here.
		The difference between a Democrat and a Republican.
		A Democrat is gasping for air, wailing on the ground over nothing, no threats at all.
		Donald Trump gets shot in the head and he stands up strong.
		That's, yeah, that's a pretty good depiction there of the dichotomy, if you will, the duality of our two-party political system.
		All right. A lot to get here.
		Trying to prioritize in the last 10 minutes.
		What did Senator Joe Manchin mean when he said this last week?
		Now, keep in mind, he said this last week.
		I believe it was on Monday or Tuesday.
		We played this.
		Maybe it didn't seem too significant at the time, but we wondered what did he mean.
		We still wonder what he meant when he said this last week.
		I believe it was Tuesday, clip one.
unidentified		But are you personally confident that he has what it takes to not only continue this election, but then to serve for another four years?
		I think that, you know, if you just wait until this week and there'll be more comes out, I believe that we'll be able to have a better, clearer view of what's happening.
		His health and well-being, I think, should be everyone's first and foremost concern.
		His and his family's and all of us.
		And he's fine.
		He's been, the doctors are saying he's fine, so I'm going to take that for its word and
		go from there.
		So I'm just going to wait.
		I really am.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		What did Senator, what did he mean, let's see what happens this weekend?
		Now it would seem far-fetched that he had any prior knowledge about what happened to Donald Trump, but yet what happened this weekend with Joe Biden that would change anything?
		So people are concerned about that.
		The crew really wanted me to play that.
		What do you think about that? Is that suspicious or a nothing burger from Joe Manchin?
		I'll tell you what. Let's do this because I think this is important and then I'll news blitz it.
		A lot of people are complaining about what went down at the RNC. Yesterday.
		They're complaining specifically about the speakers and what they did and what they talked about.
		And I want to be clear about something.
		I have no problem with people expressing their political opinion.
		It's a good thing, especially in this day and age with social media and the internet.
		It's going to be everywhere. Everybody's going to want to comment on everything.
		And it's always going to happen like that.
		Things move at the speed of the news.
		So you're always going to get that.
		And if people want to complain about Amber Rose and Harmeet Dillon and the Workers Union and everything else, then that's just fine.
		I have no problem with that.
		Here's the way I look at it.
		First of all, how many people right now listening to this can tell me who spoke at the 2016 RNC? How many?
		So does it really matter?
		Secondly, If we want to win politically, then we're going to have to drop our own purism.
		Now, if you want to live your life the way you want to live your life and you want to have your culture and you want to live a purist life and everything else that comes with that, then you do that.
		You can do that.
		But if you want to win politically in the year 2024, it's time to drop the purism politically or you're never going to win.
		So I don't get this.
		It's always something to complain about instead of just reaching for victory.
		The vice president pick could have been a black guy.
		They would have complained it was a minority.
		It could have been Rubio.
		They would have complained he was a Mexican.
		It could have been a woman. They would have complained it was a woman.
		It would need to be a white guy. Well, now it's a white guy.
		And they complained because he used to be a never-Trumper or he's owned by AIPAC. I get it.
		I get it. We're not in a cult.
		Things are going to be different. Purism will kill this political movement.
		It will kill this political movement.
		So, let me say this about Amber Rose.
		You know, she has 24 million followers on Instagram.
		She has 3 million followers on X. You might not like what she posts and shares.
		I might not like what she posts and shares.
		But let's just say, who do you think is going to convert more people from potentially voting Democrat or not voting at all?
		Someone who's a known conservative?
		Whose entire audience is full of Trump voting conservatives?
		Or someone who has a diverse audience of apolitical or politically indifferent people encouraging them to vote for Donald Trump?
		Maybe people who thought Trump was racist or people who thought Trump was misogynist.
		And here's a non-white woman saying go vote for Trump.
		Who do you think is actually getting more people to show up?
		Let's just think strategically here for one second.
		That is if we want to win.
		Maybe some people just don't want to win.
		I want to win. I'm not a purist.
		I don't like to eat unhealthy foods, but if I see a fat guy over there wearing a Trump hat, I'm going to say, hey, good for you.
		So I want to win.
		I don't care about purism.
		I don't obsess over what other people are doing with their lives or posting on the internet.
		I want to win.
		So you can complain about losing, but And then when you have a strategy and a formula and a change in tactics to win and then complain about that, but you can't complain about never winning and then complain when you actually have a tactic that'll make you win.
		So that's all I'm going to say on that.
		Now, as far as J.D. Vance is concerned, the big concern, the never-Trumper thing, I get it.
		He responded to it last night.
		Here, let's just play the response.
		Here's him responding to being a never-Trumper.
		Here's his explanation, clip 14.
unidentified		You know, Pat, you literally said, you texted a friend, that Trump is a cynical a-hole like Nixon, who wouldn't be that bad and might even prove useful, and that he's America's Hitler.
		And you compared him to a cultural heroine in the Atlantic Monthly.
		And I'll tell you Trump's response, but you said that then.
		What do you say to people that say, well, wait a minute.
jd vance ▲ ● ▼		What did he mean? Well, Sean, I don't hide from that.
		I was certainly skeptical of Donald Trump in 2016, but President Trump was a great president, and he changed my mind.
		I think he changed the minds of a lot of Americans because, again, he delivered that peace and prosperity.
		If you go back to what I thought in 2016, another thing that was going on, Sean, is I bought into the media's lies and distortions.
		I bought into this idea that somehow he was going to be so different, a terrible threat to democracy.
		It was a joke. Joe Biden is the one who's trying to throw his political opposition in jail.
		Joe Biden is the one who's trying to undermine American law and order.
		President Trump did a really good job.
		And I actually think it's a good thing when you see somebody, you were wrong about them, you ought to admit the mistake and admit that you were wrong.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Alright, do you like it? Do you not?
		It's over. He's the pick.
		Now, here's a tweet from J.D. Vance, September 2021.
		Alex Jones is a far more reputable source of information than Rachel Maddow.
		Well, duh. But you know what?
		Calling Alex Jones a reputable source of information, I'll take it from the Vice President.
		So now you've got a President and a Vice President who have been complimentary of Alex Jones.
		So, look, I'll take the good with the bad.
		I'm willing to give it a shot. The big issue people have is the AIPAC deal, but, I mean, you know.
		Again, folks, some things you're just not going to be able to change right now.
		And so let's say you're an Israel-first-er, meaning you just not accept anybody that deals with Israel or is funded by AIPAC, just despite an election victory or despite moving the ball forward in the political direction we want.
		Well then, okay, that's fine.
		I get it. But you know what?
		You can have a Zionist that's going to cut your air supply off or you can have a Zionist that's at least going to give you an air supply if I'm responding to that.
		But that seems to be the biggest issue is the Never Trump comments and then the AIPAC funding.
		So that's where it's at.
		There's his response. Now, I kind of went out of sorts here.
		Here's why it's important for us to have big tent politics if we want to win.
		And there's hundreds of these videos happening now.
		People who would have never voted Trump.
		I played one earlier. But it's people like Amber Rose and others that you might not like.
		You might not think they're conservative.
		I don't care if they vote for me and vote for a better economy and vote for a secure border and vote for better trade deals and less taxes, then I'll take them.
		I don't care if they're conservative or not.
		But it's videos like this that prove this is how you win, clip number eight.
unidentified		I'm about to get so much hate for this.
		You know what? Fine.
		I don't care. Real talk.
		I wasn't really a Trump supporter.
		Definitely not a Clinton supporter.
		And I wouldn't vote for Biden.
		I was going to sit out this election because neither option was that great to me.
		But after watching what unfolded in Pennsylvania and everyone asked, why are people running?
		You know why? Because the Trump supporters represent the non-1%.
		They're the soldiers on the front lines.
		They're the cops out there.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		So look, it goes on for the sake of time.
		I'm going to stop it right there.
		I'm just telling you, folks, if you're trying to win, you need all hands on deck.
		You need everybody you can.
		Period. That's where we're at.
		Now, you might not agree, and you might want to be a purist, and you might want to excommunicate people from this movement, but the movement's bigger than you, and don't complain about never winning if you don't want to have a winning strategy.
		Bob Menendez found guilty on corruption trial, including acting as a foreign agent, bribes in cash, gold in a car.
		Schumer tells him to resign.
		He won't. He's going to appeal the decision.
		MSNBC pulled Morning Joe off the show.
		On Monday because they were afraid of what was going to be said about Trump potentially or how psychotic they've been.
		MSNBC pulled them off the air, apparently lied to them about the reasoning.
		Now Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski are threatening to quit MSNBC. I dare you.
		They know they would have no audience if they left MSNBC, so I doubt they will.
		But something's going on there.
		Something fishy is going on there.
		All right, we almost got to all the news.
		Including crazy news out of California.
		Such crazy news that Elon Musk is now moving his headquarters all to Texas.
		We'll cover all of that and more tomorrow.
		21-hour break. We'll see you then.
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		So, we're in a paradox here where the judge says we're open for three more months.
		If we're able to get a buyer under the law, they won't be able to shut us down.
		I'll just work for somebody else. And that's coming.
		That's got to be set up. But in the meantime, if people believe the news that we're being shut down everywhere, which they tried to do and failed, by that foregone conclusion, we're shut down.
		And under The last federal bankruptcy manager who would not reorder product and killed all our advertising, who was positioning us to be shut down and tried to shut us down.
		We caught him. The judge caught him and fired him.
		We're almost sold out of all the products.
		All right? But we have a lot of great products that are still in stock.
		Limited supplies. So I need you to go to Infowarsstore.com.
		If we just had a donation button, maybe we should just do that.
		You're fighting for freedom in a key election, battling the globalists.
		We need support. But we want a long-term relationship with you.
		We want to be symbiotic.
		We want you to get great products you like, get them delivered to you quickly, and enjoy them and have them empower you and make your life better so you love them and you keep getting them.
		We want a relationship. Show.
		There's the Infowars MD line that I don't talk about enough that is all the highest quality.
		Whether it's turmeric, or whether it's natural sleep aid, or whether it's saw palmetto, or other compounds that are great for your prostate.
		Also great for women's breasts.
		It affects the same type of tissues that have those hormonal fluctuations.
		I'm not a doctor, but I read the literature.
		You need to go to InfoWarsStore.com and go to the sections that have the whole line, over a dozen products, InfoWarsMD.
		We've got Ashwagandha Gummy.
		Relaxes you, makes you feel really relaxed with no downer feeling.
		Amazing. An incredible product.
		Goodnight Sleep. We have a lot of great sleep aids.
		This one's excellent. They're all different formulas.
		People love it. Goodnight Sleep.
		InfoWarsMD. Ashwagandha with black pepper, which relaxes you and makes you lose weight.
		These are all concentrates. Joint Relief Max.
		Works really well. Great pain relief.
		Huge bottle of it. You know, jam-packed.
		It's there. Joint Relief Max.
		InfoWarsMD. Prostate support.
		I already mentioned that. This is just a top formula.
		Super high quality. Organic.
		Nerve Renew. Amazing.
		To get your nerves not to kill pain, but to get your nerves healthy.
		Nitric Boost. Vitamin Rural Fusion about to sell out.
		About to sell out. Real Red Pill Plus.
		And something I never talk about and should talk about more.
		Probiotic Fiber. A super high-end product at a low price at InfoWarsStore.com.

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