On May 30, 2024, Donald Trump was convicted on all 34 hush money charges in a trial critics like Owen Schroyer and Roger Stone call "rigged," citing Judge Juan Merchan’s alleged $9.7M ties to Biden donors and denied jury access to full instructions. Legal analysts dismiss the case as unprecedented or corrupt, while Schroyer warns of false flag violence and Alex Jones frames it as tyranny, comparing it to Project 2025 smear campaigns and past deplatforming of dissenters like Brian Rose. Trump’s vow to fight until November 5th—blaming Biden’s "weaponized" justice system—may backfire politically, turning him into a martyr while exposing deepening polarization, with resignations from figures like Klaus Schwab hinting at shifting establishment tactics. The episode ends by urging supporters to rally on X and purchase InfowarsStore products amid fears of escalating censorship and economic instability. [Automatically generated summary]
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Now, I'm listening to all the commentary all day on what's going on, what's leading into the now 11th hour of deliberations.
And the more you hear, it's just the more insane it gets.
You can't even believe that it's that corrupt.
But it is.
There is no case.
There was no case. And the judge is doing everything he can to try to sway the jury and get an anti-Trump result.
And then you look into the judge with his family getting millions, hundreds of millions of dollars from the Democrats and even specifically the Biden-Harris team.
Now there's other news going on against Trump as well.
And I'm surprised they don't have it on the front page there, but did you know?
How are the Democrats going to get Biden on the ballot in Ohio?
They figured that out.
So we got that news for you as well.
Because they kind of screwed the pooch.
And you start to look at how the Democrat Party is operating, and I think that maybe we give them too much credit at times.
Maybe we give the Democrat Party too much credit at times, thinking it's a well-oiled machine behind the scenes, this Democrat Party, as it has been in the past.
I mean, they are committed to corruption and deception.
We're not going to be confused on that.
But not even able to...
Get your timing right for the convention so that you can qualify for the ballot in Ohio.
And now they're gonna have to pull a cheap trick to get him to qualify.
You know, maybe this Democrat Party ain't the well-oiled machine that we thought it was.
And you look at the people running it, maybe it makes sense.
So we're gonna hear from Trump though when we come back and then some other news from outside the courtroom.
All right, the jury has now been in deliberation for more than 11 hours.
People think that this is a sign of good news for Trump, and I would say that that's probably true, except that the judge has tried to change the rules so that even if they don't have the unanimous guilty from the jury, the judge basically changes the rules and says, well, I'll just do some magic math.
I'll just do some common core math, and if you get four guilties over here and four guilties over there and then four guilties on this charge, and then I'll just combine those and say guilty.
And he's in there basically urging the jury to...
It's kind of like what they did to Alex Jones.
So, I mean, it's similar stuff.
These are the tactics they play.
The judge is just there to convince the jury and mislead them, thinking that they really don't have any other role except to do the judge's bidding.
And, of course, this is not how the legal system works at all.
And so the judge is just in there saying, yeah, well, we just know Trump's guilty and a bad guy, so we just need you to give me some numbers here and we'll get him.
It's all completely unheard of.
But last night, when the jury was deliberating, some interesting news was developing.
NBC's legal correspondent, Laura Jarrett, Reporting that this is so strange, nothing like this has ever been done before, the jury is in there and the judge won't even give them the rules.
So, you see, the judge is tampering with the jury.
The judge is trying to lead the jury to the decision of a Trump guilty, and even though he knows he doesn't have enough control over the jury to get that, that's why he's in there playing this Common Core math magic, saying, oh, well, if I just get some people to think he's guilty of some things, I'll just add it all up and say that that counts.
But here's... The NBC legal correspondent Laura Jarrett outside basically saying this is how the jury is being rigged in clip 7.
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I got it. These are the instructions that the jury has to follow in Donald Trump's hush money trial before they can reach a verdict.
53 pages. This is complicated.
This is lengthy stuff. It took the judge over an hour to read it.
But guess what? The jury doesn't get this in the room during deliberations.
They have to write questions, they can write notes, but they don't get these instructions.
In New York, both parties have to agree and the judge has to agree.
They're very easy questions to answer, but I'm gagged, so I can't talk as much as I would like to about this ridiculous case that's hurting our country so badly.
Some of the reviews from yesterday are the — and by the way, everyone who gets this case, I haven't seen one legal scholar or expert in the law saying that this case It should have been filed.
It should not have been filed.
Or at a minimum, it should have been filed seven years ago.
At seven years old, everybody turned it down, including federal elections turned it down.
Southern District turned it down.
Bragg turned it down.
Then he rejuvenated it when I was running for office.
It's a terrible thing.
At the request of Biden.
The editors of the National Review say, quit Trump.
Greg has failed to prove his charges.
Totally failed. Greg Jarrett.
Who exactly was defrauded?
Voters who had already voted.
Well, they already voted because all of this stuff came in after the election.
So how were they defrauded?
And then you say, what about Hillary with the dossier?
What about all of these other things that go, and this is nothing.
This is nothing. What about all of the corruption, the voter fraud, that you've seen over the last year on behalf of the Democrats, and nobody talks about it?
Greg Jarrett, the government, which received full payment on all taxable income, The government received full payment.
The taxes were paid in full.
In fact, they make comments on that.
Even if the taxes were paid in full, the Federal Elections Commission that concluded the money paid did not constitute a campaign contribution under the law.
And remember, the judge wouldn't allow us.
Look, he's a very conflicted judge.
Everybody knows that. You don't want to talk about what the conflict was.
I'm not allowed to talk about it because of the gang order that he put on me.
So one subject he really doesn't want to talk about.
There was no fraud.
There was no conspiracy.
It's that simple. Moreover, without a primary crime, there can be no secondary crime.
It's a classic warfare, weaponizing statutes, because the law has been — okay, right?
Because no law has been broken.
That was Greg Jarrett. Ellie Honig, legal analyst for CNN. The crime here is not easy to explain or to understand.
It's just not understandable.
In other words, there is no crime.
This is CNN. Catherine Christian from MSNBC, I call it MSDNC, legal analyst.
It's difficult because it's a very nuanced argument.
It's never been prosecuted before.
This is an argument that has never been prosecuted before.
Thank you. They're asking, the jury that is, or they're asking for other notes and notes on witness testimony from Cohen and Pecker and the rest of them.
Already in hour 11, it's likely there won't be a decision.
They'll probably adjourn, my guess is, before we're even off air.
But... How is this going to go?
How is the judge going to massage the jury to get the result he wants, what the Democrats want, who have paid his family tens of millions of dollars?
Because I think it's a fair assumption to think that if it's going this long, that they obviously have some holdouts in there.
So that's where we're at.
Here on day two.
I think it's going to go until tomorrow.
We'll of course be having live coverage right here at band.video.
AmericanElection.News.
We'll continue to monitor the live shot there outside of the courtroom as well.
FEC vendor records revealed Judge Merchant's daughter raked in $9.7 million from Biden and Harris during their 2020 campaigns for president raising fresh conflict issues.
They paid Lauren Merchant's Dem Consulting firm Authentic Campaigns to sway swing state undecideds through social media.
So just another drop in the bucket.
When this is all said and done, it's going to be, I mean, the final tally is going to be over $100 million that the Democrats have paid the judge, the judge's daughter.
Over $100 million.
And then he tells Trump, you can't talk about that or I'll throw you in jail.
You can't talk about my family, my daughter, receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from the Democrats.
And here she's talking about Project 2025, and they want this to get glued to Donald Trump's forehead, and they'll act like it's a swastika or something.
But listen to the details here from Ayanna Pressley whining about this on the House floor in Clip 10.
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And we must sound the alarm.
Project 2025 is a far-right manifesto.
It is a 1,000-page bucket list of extremist policies that would uproot every government agency and disrupt the lives of every person who calls this country home.
I won't detail every aspect, but I'll share some highlights.
I'm sorry. You have to just correct the Democrats.
You have to correct the things that they say because they just lie to your face.
Wanting to uproot the federal government?
Does that sound so bad?
Does that sound so bad to this audience?
Well, she says it's extremist.
And then, how does she phrase it?
It'll change the lives of every American.
It'll negatively affect the lives of every American.
What, getting government off of our backs?
Now, this is the same party...
The Democrat Party. You want to talk about policy that's going to overturn your life.
You want to talk about policy that's going to change the life of every American.
It's the climate change agenda.
It's the green new energy policies.
It's shutting off all oil, coal, and saying we have to go to these green new energy deals.
That will completely change the life of every American.
Negatively. But see, she just takes this manifesto, as she calls it, that some conservatives put out about...
I mean, you could call it like a Declaration of Independence in a way.
You could call it like common sense from Thomas Paine.
Somebody just... Writes a political manifesto for an important time in history.
Says, look, we got a corrupt government.
Here's how we can deal with it.
And it's the Democrats panic because they're the ones that run the government.
They're the ones that want to use the government to control your life and to destroy their political opposition.
But no, they are the extremists.
They want to change your lifestyle by telling you you can't eat meat.
You can't drive a car.
You can't have AC or heating in your house.
They're the ones who have the policy that wants to change your life.
And they say, well, if the right wants to get the government off your back, that's the negative thing.
unidentified
All right, continue. Every person who calls this country home.
I won't detail every aspect, but I'll share some highlights.
The Department of Education would be eliminated, cutting students off from civil rights protections and ending essential Title I funding for K-12 schools.
The Department of Justice would Go on a murdering spree.
It would rush to use the death penalty and expand its use to even more people while circumventing due process protections.
Project 25 not only calls for national book bans in schools, but also creates a list of
banned words for the federal government that would be deleted from quote, every federal
rule, agency regulation, contract grant and piece of legislation that exists, end quote.
Here are just a few of the words on the list, diversity, gender, reproductive health, and
of course, conservatives want to ban the word abortion.
On that note, abortion care would be inaccessible and illegal no matter where abortion care
live.
On page six of its playbook, Project 2025 states, quote, the Dobbs decision is just the beginning, end quote.
People even in my district in Massachusetts 7th, a leader in repro justice, would be criminalized for pursuing essential health care.
Now- Abortion.
We could have an entire hearing on how these policies would quite literally ruin and end lives.
And I didn't even touch upon proposals for housing, climate change, worker protections, and more.
If enacted, Project 2025 would destroy the federal government as we know it.
Trump's campaign issued a statement distancing the former president from a plan drawn up by former staffers.
So it's like, oh, anything who ever worked for Trump, anybody who ever worked for Trump, whatever they say or do, now that's Trump.
And if they say and do something bad, we're just going to blame that on Trump.
But, you know, when the Democrats call for attacking Trump supporters and then it happens and they say, hey, look, here's a baseball practice that Republicans have and there's no security, wink, wink, and then James Hodgkinson drives from Missouri to try to commit a mass murder, they don't bat an eye.
But... But despite all that, I think they finally got him this time, guys.
I think they finally got him this time.
A former... A former worker on The Apprentice has claimed that an NDA has just expired, and so now he can talk about what went on behind the scenes, and this is it for Trump, ladies and gentlemen. This former apprentice worker says Donald Trump used the N-word.
So this is the movie that Silicon Valley doesn't want you to watch because it's all about the massive censorship apparatus of the 21st century, which includes governments, all of our tech platforms, and quite frankly, a lot of our global corporations.
And I tell the story of what happened to me as a podcaster in the UK in 2020,
who was minding my own business.
I had been publishing for nine years, had about a half a billion views,
over 2 million subscribers on my YouTube channel.
And then in March of 2020, I guess I made a big mistake because I had a guy named David Icke on my show.
And he started asking questions about COVID, about masks, about distancing.
Move forward to April, a month later, I had him back.
We had the second largest YouTube livestream in the world, 65,000 concurrent viewers, and that video was banned and deleted.
And we were really the earliest people that were getting censored on YouTube for asking hard questions.
And I got angry, and we just fought back.
And so the movie really talks about how we ultimately set up our own streaming platform, streamed that third episode to a million people, and we think we actually kind of changed the narrative.
But the story continues, because eight months ago, I was completely deplatformed from YouTube.
They took down all of our channels.
And so censorship is real, and we're premiering this film on X, because it's the only platform that'll really have it at this point.
And it shows, too, that the instincts from these social media companies Isn't even, because I know there's like a fiduciary duty when it comes to running a business like this and you have investors and shareholders, but it shows that their instincts and their duties are on more narrative control.
Because you were making a lot of money for YouTube, you were doing well on YouTube, and then at the end of the day, it's like, oh no, no, no.
You're going off narrative.
You're reporting on things we don't want people to see.
You're having David Icke on your show.
We don't want him on our platform, so we're done with you.
Yeah, and I didn't really understand it at the time, you know, and it wasn't just YouTube.
I remember PayPal suspended an account with six figures in it.
Dropbox took me off, although I didn't know Dropbox was looking at the files on Dropbox.
You know, Instagram, LinkedIn were all banning us at the same time.
And whenever you said, oh, this is big tech coming after you, they say, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist.
You're paranoid. But now, years later, when we look at what was happening, we can see from the Twitter files, it was most likely government putting pressure on these institutions to stop certain narratives.
And I've since had a guy named Mike Benz on my show who's coming out with a book called Weapons of Mass Deletion.
And when he saw the movie, we screened it in Myrtle Beach.
We won the film festival there.
He said, Brian, he's like, I can see everything that's happening behind the scenes that you felt at the front of the scene.
But all I knew was YouTube was telling me what I could and couldn't do.
Even though, like you said, it made no sense because it's against their business model.
It's against even their own interests.
And so it really shows that there were some bigger powers pushing back.
But the ultimate lesson is simple.
If you lose your freedom of speech...
You're one step away from losing everything.
And we're really close to losing it right now.
If we didn't have platforms like X, I don't know what we would do.
And I just want everyone to be aware that they need to fight and constantly be aware that everything they're watching right now is being censored, except maybe here on InfoWars.
I always used to say, it always happens to the weirdo until you're the weirdo.
Alex got banned in 2018, and you don't think much of it until it happens to you, and then it happens to Joe Rogan and it happens to someone else.
And so it's alive and well today, and that's why we're bringing the film out.
Well, and I think that here's the important measure of it, too, because maybe sometimes the free speech angle and argument kind of gets lost in translation.
It's become... It's become so commonplace that I think now people are just kind of numb to hearing it.
It's like, oh, another free speech issue.
But what's important about this story is what we were reporting, what you were reporting in 2020, whether it was dealing with COVID, the origins, dealing with the vaccines and the side effects, all that information that they were censoring all ended up coming true.
And so now you're not just talking about, okay, well, I have a right to free speech or debating how it applies to these social media platforms.
You're talking about what was truthful information being targeted and censored.
Yeah, that changed the course of history and lost a lot of lives by not having that information out there.
Yeah, I always used to say, I don't like to say what you just said and said, and we were right.
Because even if we weren't, those ideas should have been debated.
And of course, the great ideas always rise to the top.
That's the story of humanity. But if you look back at it, yes, we were talking about possible lab leaks.
We were talking about distancing, mass effectiveness, the rollout of vaccines to an unsuspecting
public that would be forced in many ways to do it.
And we happen to be right about all of that.
And yet all that was suppressed where we couldn't even have those conversations.
So you're right.
When you look at it through that lens, you can really see the damage.
And it'll all happen again if we're not vigilant about trying to fight for this right.
But you're right. We do get desensitized.
What does freedom of speech mean?
Like, why do we need it? And it's not just freedom of speech.
It's the right to hear what someone else has to say.
And so now YouTube, I had 2.4 million subscribers, 2.4 million people around the world that wanted to listen to what I had to say, that I wanted to speak to.
And now a tech company has come in the middle and said, you're not allowed to talk to each other.
That's something fundamentally wrong with someone trying to do that.
Well, and the whole idea is that you can't be trusted.
It used to be that if you didn't have a major network or if you didn't have a big television station or satellite connection or whatever, that you couldn't reach millions of people, right?
That ability was reserved for a very few.
Well, now in the year 2024, I mean, I guess it's been this way for some decades now.
When did Twitter launch?
Like 2008 or something?
So now anybody can get a million followers.
Now anybody can reach masses of people, millions of people.
That's what the establishment hates.
That's what you can't be trusted with that.
One individual can change the narrative.
One individual can bring information to light that otherwise wouldn't be brought to light.
And so that's what this is all about to me.
And what's so frustrating, and it becomes this issue of...
Do you even bother trying to make sense of the leftist ideology?
I mean, is it a waste of time?
But they say, oh, we're anti-fascists.
Oh, we're against big corporations and all this stuff.
Well, then this is your lane.
This should be the lane.
This should be the battlefield that you're on.
We're talking about big corporations censoring information that would hurt their bottom line.
$100 billion of a vaccine contract from the Biden administration to Pfizer.
They censor all the side effects off the Internet.
So it's just like, that is supposedly the fight that they're having.
Instead, they're the ones trying to stop us from having it.
I mean, the U.S. government has been censoring organizations like the New York Times for 100 years.
Like, they had that all set, television channels, etc.
With the rise of the Internet that was supposed to destabilize governments around the world and introduce these democratic ideas, it actually came back and started threatening that government.
And so now they had to find ways to censor As far as the left, it used to be the party of free speech.
It used to be the party that respected these civil rights.
And it's on 180 degrees back to the other side.
And I think it's now become more of this pack mentality.
And I think people are really out of touch with what these things really mean to our future.
An open and honest debate will always result in the best idea.
I used to joke there were these people on YouTube at the time who had this theory called the earth is flat.
And yet, they didn't take those videos down off of YouTube.
Those are still up. Yeah, those are still up.
And they should be.
And they should be, exactly. And yet, my videos are down.
And I was like, why? Well, they're clearly trying to upset some type of a status quo.
They're clearly trying to do something without us knowing that it's happening.
And we all just need to take a step back and realize we have to fight for this.
And Elon Musk always says it well.
He says, look, freedom of speech only applies to people you don't like saying things that you don't want to hear.
That's the acid test.
And furthermore, once you lose it, you can't get it back.
Or however you want to explain it, is a sign of weakness.
Somebody doesn't want to debate you on the ideas, that shows that they're lacking confidence in their own ideas, that they can't bring it forward in a debate.
And I think, you know, when this first started rolling out, and I still think that this is true to a certain extent, I mean, the censorship on these other platforms, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, it's kind of just...
Since they never really got stopped, they just kind of do it whenever they want now, willy-nilly.
But I think in the beginning, you talked about how you had one of the largest streams ever on YouTube with David Icke.
What I saw, the first pattern was, because people would ask me, they'd try to figure out, well, why are they banning this group or that group?
The people that they hate the most, at least in the origins of the censorship era, were
the people that went live when there was breaking news.
If you report on a story maybe 48 hours afterwards, they kind of don't care about you as much.
If you just upload a video after everything breaks, they don't care about you as much.
It's the people that are live when there's the breaking news story, because that's how
they control the narrative.
And if there's other opposing viewpoints while there's a story breaking, then they can't
control the narrative.
And so when you talk about you having one of the biggest live streams ever, that's a
huge threat.
They can't have somebody getting hundreds of thousands or millions of people tuned into
a live stream when there's breaking news and a narrative that they have to control.
You know, I never thought about that aspect before, but every single one of our broadcasts
was live.
And so I think you're right.
That was the threat.
And people knew it was in real time.
They could evaluate it in real time.
And it was completely contrarian to everything else that was being parroted in the mainstream media.
And so the final part of the film is us creating our own platform and streaming it to a million people live and getting that message out there.
And I think the big message is it doesn't actually take that much to fight back.
These organizations aren't as powerful as we're led to believe that they are.
We had a small group of people in London.
We had millions around the world that I call the London Real Army, and they made that happen.
It really is the story of Infowars as well.
If people just realize, they say, no, we're not going to do that, and we need to fight for this really important thing, or we're going to lose it forever.
Well, and I'm just somebody that is, I'm a media consumer myself.
I consume mass media, probably too much, probably unhealthy, but it's what I do.
I try to look at trends and see what's going on.
So when they first started censoring people, that was just a trend that I noticed.
I realized, okay, most consumers of information, not the hardcore consumers that are active
listeners, but kind of the general consumers that when there's a breaking news story, want
to just kind of feel it out and maybe go, they want live.
They want something that's live.
And cable news has had that edge for decades now.
And they're starting to lose that edge.
Specifically with people under 40 years old.
So that's why they went after that first.
Because it's the live viewership.
That can hurt a narrative.
When it's first forming.
After 24, 48 hours.
They kind of don't even care. It's a first wave.
First impression. People coming in when there's breaking news.
And then they get on with their lives.
So I'm not surprised. Because you were live a lot.
You were doing live coverage. You were getting live viewers.
That they targeted you first.
And you were mentioning this.
As well, and I think this is an important aspect of your story, and I don't know if you want to kind of tease some of the stuff that is coming up in your documentary, but you were a partner with YouTube.
It was a beneficial relationship for them, for you, and you figured, well, maybe there's a level of loyalty here, but there's not.
They'll pull the rug out from under you, and I was mentioning, and, you know, I'm not trying to take cheap shots at Tim Pool.
He's not secret about this.
He's got one of the biggest YouTube channels.
He openly talks about how he basically has to censor his show to remain on YouTube.
It's a decision he's made.
But it's a dangerous precedent because you look at what happened to you.
Hey, you had to deal with YouTube, and then what did they do to you?
Most people tap out before that, and most people self-censor.
They don't even know that they're not actually talking about something.
Like, you're in a cocktail party, you don't want to say something that offends people, so you zip it about your opinion.
And if that happens on YouTube, it's dangerous.
Now, I see what Tim's doing.
And I understand there's an argument where you can have this platform over here that has my controversial content and this platform over here that keeps my fan base.
But like you said, that's a dangerous line to walk because you start changing as a creator.
And we didn't want any part in that.
So we fought back.
We put our business on the line.
It hurt us. But it also got us a loyal fan base around the world that could tell that we were standing up for what we believed in.
And that's when Alex reached out at the time and encouraged me to actually ask our supporters for help and then to keep going.
And this is the story of just what happened to just a simple broadcaster.
Quickly here, word is that we might have a Trump verdict breaking any minute now, so we're going to continue to monitor that with the crew in my ear and then flashing that on the screen.
Trump verdict about to be announced here probably next hour, so we'll have that coverage live.
And, you know, I'm not in Tim's shoes, and I think I understand why people might get upset for the decisions that he makes.
That's his decision, and you can make the decision whether you want to watch his content or not.
I, you know, for me, I don't think...
I don't think the decision would be hard.
I just can't censor myself.
It's like, even if I wanted to, I wouldn't be able to.
Like, I'd be like, alright, I'm not going to say this.
And then I'd go on air and it's just stream of consciousness.
I'd say something. I'd get banned anyway.
But, you know, in a way, in a way, it's like, because he just had that Trump interview.
Probably got millions of views.
It's probably a good thing that he's able to get that interview and get it millions of views.
Even if he does have to engage in, you know, some control over his shows just so he can remain on YouTube.
But again, it's that At any moment, they can just pull that rug out.
And you can try to play ball with them as much as possible, and they can still just pull that rug out at any moment.
And it is. It's a dangerous relationship to have, especially because I think it's true.
I mean, a lot of these people that make content on YouTube, if you do well, you're making money.
Yeah, you kind of have to honor that and then take those actions accordingly, but not many people do.
This apparatus works really well and YouTube can control a lot of that narrative.
You know, I still remember having these conversations with these reps and the videos are in the movie and I'm so frustrated because They use this blanket policy of hate speech to be able to take down any single piece of content.
At one point I say to them, I feel like you're terrorizing me here because I don't know at any point you could take my channel down.
At any point you can use any reason to take that content down.
I'm confused. I'm kind of traumatized.
I'm in this weird state. And that's kind of where they keep you.
Here's the way I've kind of been presenting this too recently, because, you know, in the business that we're in, it's really mass communication.
And so sometimes, because a lot of people just in the multimedia, social media world, anybody can kind of rise and get a following.
There's all kinds of different means and mechanisms to do so.
You have to remember you're in mass communications.
And so there's certain things that you have to think about when you're doing this and finding a message that resonates, finding the lowest common denominator, finding a way to get people to understand what you're trying to say.
And so one of the ways I've been trying to communicate this with this new censorship thing is There's this concept that's building that somehow there's a difference of speech in if you and I are at dinner or we're at a bar or we're at a ball game and we're just talking versus if you and I are on our X account or YouTube or somewhere else talking.
There's this idea that somehow there's a difference there and really I think that that barrier needs to be completely broken down.
I'm not saying the two things are perfectly similar but what I'm saying is if I'm talking to you about something controversial In a private conversation or whatever at a bar.
Well, we're not worried of ramifications.
It's just speech.
Well, why wouldn't that same concept apply to what I'm saying on the internet?
Why isn't that same principle existing for communications that you make on the internet?
That barrier that there's somehow two different rules for these two forms of speech needs to be completely destroyed.
Well, in a way, too, the beauty of, I mean, let's use YouTube as the example here, probably as the best example, kind of the beauty of it was that it was the easiest way for a content creator to succeed and make money.
I mean, it's not to say, I don't know if lazy is the best word for it, but in a way, it takes away so much of the headache of how am I going to fund my content?
I mean, I'm lucky that I'm working for Alex and Infowars because when they knocked all our stuff off in 2018, Alex had already built the infrastructure for us to be self-sufficient.
So we already had that infrastructure.
I mean, when they took YouTube, it was a massive hit.
I mean, six figures a year they were taken away.
So it was obviously a massive hit when they took our Google ads and everything else.
But... You know, Alex kind of saw this coming and we already had the infrastructure built so that we could be self-sufficient.
Other people don't really have that.
All right. So the documentary is about to break.
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But tell people where they can go find this documentary.
Yeah, and there, obviously, you can see how they're coming after Elon Musk for returning free speech to X. Say nothing's perfect, but he's over 90% on that issue.
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The film is about to debut.
When we come back, we're also going to have live coverage from outside the courtroom.
Alright, the word is that the verdict is in...
And I guess at this point we're just waiting for the jury to return to the courtroom.
Now there's no cameras allowed inside, and so we'll just have to wait until the reporters leave the courtroom and the news hits the press.
But that's the latest, is that a decision has been made.
But it's not that simple, see?
Because remember, the judge is basically making his own rules in this courtroom.
A total banana republic.
A total tyrant of a judge.
And he's just making his own rules.
And so, even if the jury does not come out and say Trump was guilty, he'll find a way to still say Trump was guilty.
And then you've got a whole other series of stories.
So, we're waiting for the verdict now.
Again, there's no cameras allowed in the courtroom.
So, we'll have to wait until the jury returns and then the news hits the press.
This is obviously going to be big historic news.
There's no other way to put it.
No matter which way you look at it, no matter which angle you take, this is going to be big historic news.
Are we going to see one of the most corrupt judges in the history of the United States targeting the political opponent of the Democrat Party that has sent his daughter hundreds of millions of dollars?
Are you going to see a completely failed attempt from the Democrats, even in a completely rigged case, to try to get Trump imprisoned?
Do they get the headlines that they want?
Felon Trump running for office?
Are they anticipating that they aren't going to get the decision they want?
So now they're saying, oh look, Trump said the N-word.
Oh look, Trump Project 2025.
So we're all waiting here.
I hear Alex Jones behind me.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's going to join me here momentarily as well to cover this in live time.
I hear the chair coming in. So yes, I'm guessing we'll be joined by Alex here very soon as well.
But no doubt here on this Thursday, May 30th, Major American history will be made.
Major political history will be made here any moment now.
But just imagine, no matter what they do or say, the result of this case, the story is going to remain that it was a rigged case, that the judge was corrupt, and that it's just political persecution against the leading candidate To be the next president of the United States.
And the Democrats, of course, are more concerned with getting Trump than they are with actually helping the American people, actually having law enforcement do its job, securing the border, whatever you want to tee up there, doesn't matter.
The Democrats need to get Trump out of the way.
And this was one of their many efforts.
You still got the case in Florida that's falling apart.
Don't be surprised if he's in court in Washington, D.C. over January 6th before too long.
You've got the looming decision at the Supreme Court whether President Trump gets immunity in the documents case.
Which it looks like he's going to win that deal.
And that's why you have the Democrats now going after Justice Alito with some bogus flag story.
A flag that's been part of American history and lore since the 1770s.
The American Revolution.
That, by the way, flew in front of the San Francisco City Hall for decades.
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All right, we're back here live in InfoWars World Headquarters in Austin, Texas.
I have Chase Geiser and Brian Rose in studio.
We're going to be joined by Alex in a moment now.
We're waiting for the verdict to come in here.
Of course, there are no cameras or recording devices allowed in the courtroom, so we're going to have to wait until the decision is had and then the news meets the press.
So we're monitoring that.
Obviously, There are going to be major implications.
Oh, here we go.
Is that the verdict right now, guys, that they have?
Okay, so a lot of confusion.
Who knows what's going on? I mean, guys, what do you think is about to happen?
We'll start with Chase Geiser. Yeah, so last I saw, the judge was going to dismiss the jury for the day at 4.30 Eastern time today, is my understanding.
But the jury asked for an additional 30 minutes to fill out the paperwork for the verdict.
So they notified the judge and the court that they have a verdict and they're just going through the legal motions of filling out the paperwork.
Once that's completed, it's my understanding that we will hear this verdict again.
This evening, so it would be any minute.
I'd imagine within the next 15 minutes or so, we're going to have a verdict.
No, I'm not shocked, but I am incredibly disappointed.
You know, there's always a part.
It's just like working here at Infowars, Owen.
There's a part of you that hopes that a miracle is going to happen.
We've seen several miracles here over the years at Infowars where we thought we were going to be shut down and there's a ruling and there's money that comes in.
I was hoping for a miracle here by way of this verdict, but I'm very disappointed to see.
You know, what's so crazy about this, and we're just on air getting this information as it comes out.
What's so crazy is the larger story here, remove Trump's name from it, this just shows how corrupt the system is.
I mean, there's no other way to put it.
It shows how corrupt the system is, and it's the Democrats.
They pick their target, and then they decide to destroy him.
That's it. So it looks like some crazy scenes there on the ground.
I don't know. We have a live feed here.
My guess is Trump wins this on appeal, but they can stick him in Rikers until the appeal process like they're doing with Dexter Taylor, who's going to be in prison for years for not even breaking a law for building guns in his basement in New York City and being illegally spied on.
So, I mean, are they that bold?
You think they're bold enough to send Trump to Rikers and just say, you're in prison until appeal?
Well, I wouldn't put anything past him at this point.
They're obviously so sick and corrupt that there's no remedy for their mental illness
and their spiritual illness.
I'm just, I'm still sitting here and I know that we're on a live show and I'm supposed
to be able to say things, but I'm just still absorbing the fact that this has happened
and it's so ridiculous, especially after our conversation today with Viva Frye, where he
outlined what the 34 different charges are and how it was like one charge for the false
information in a ledger, then another charge for signing the check.
And so they took like one alleged crime and they just spread it across 34 different charges so they could put them away forever if they wanted to.
These people, it's like they're totally not accountable to To the American people anymore, to the political process, to justice or truth or anything good anymore, and they are just doubling down on their evil.
I just hope that they've made a grave mistake and that we can take this back.
You cannot send Donald Trump to Rikers or there's going to be riots.
You cannot make that statement and do that.
Now, of course, they could do it, but there's going to be huge ramifications.
The only silver lining here is something that we just spoke to the lawyer about, which is the Supreme Court could rule on some type of immunity, I think by the end of June, that could nullify all this.
But I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
Their next moves will have long-term ramifications.
Whether they really want to put him in jail.
And I would say think carefully, but they're obviously not thinking carefully.
And you guys have been through this.
You know what it's like to see something completely stacked.
But it's Donald Trump, so it's the double standard here.
It's the fact that we've had the most corrupt politicians, maybe even in the world, here in the United States of America, but it's Donald Trump, the people's president that they want to go after.
Bob Menendez comes back to America with pockets full of gold bullion, cars full of gold bullion.
Henry Craylar, same story.
And do they go to prison?
Do they have to sit in a New York courtroom for days?
No, only Donald Trump.
So I think that that's the real source of frustration here.
And whether you like Donald Trump or not, or his policies or not, or his presidency or not, to me, that's going to be the reaction.
That's going to be the source of frustration.
That somehow the American people are supposed to believe that Donald Trump is the only person in politics to ever be corrupt.
Of all the corrupt politicians we've had, the thousands in Congress and in the White House and everything else, but it's Donald Trump that they get.
To me, that's going to be the source of frustration from the American people.
If Joe Biden can win campaigning from his basement, Donald Trump can win campaigning from a jail cell.
They have made a terrible mistake here.
I'm now worried at this stage, this has escalated to level two, where I'm worried about things like false flags, where they could use this as an excuse to do something violent, fed-backed, fed-catalyzed, and then blame it on right-wing Americans.
That's what I'm worried about because there are a lot of Americans today, tens of millions of Americans today, who are incredibly frustrated and wondering what the Founding Fathers would do and wondering what they should do as Americans.
We have to remain peaceful and not fall for any of these false flag operations that I think might be underway.
We've made this mistake here where we always think that if we show any grace, it's going to be reciprocated down the road, whether it's in our own lawsuits or litigation.
If we show any goodwill, it's going to come back and they'll show goodwill on the other side.
These people are not going to show any goodwill.
I mean, it's like with you, right? Wasn't there a deal in your case in Just stop me if I'm not supposed to say anything on air about this.
Exactly, verbally. My lawyer said his biggest regret was not getting it in writing.
We can talk more about that.
Yeah, assuming that the government's acting into good faith is a mistake that you should never make.
Yes, that's my point. Yeah. Guys, give me back the live feed outside of the courtroom there.
It looks like Trump's team is exiting.
Perhaps Donald Trump will be soon.
You see one of his campaign managers there, Caroline, leave it.
So we're monitoring the scenes here.
I guess we'll see if he's in a jumpsuit or not.
He won't be in a jumpsuit, but maybe they'll cuff him.
Yeah, there he is. There's Trump right there speaking to some of his team and his lawyers.
Just behind that door.
I would imagine he'll make a public statement.
I would imagine he'll go to the press.
There's Eric Trump right there as well.
I would imagine he's gonna go to the press, if not now, eventually, before he leaves the courthouse.
Alina Haba there as well.
So speaking to his attorneys, probably deciding what he's gonna say or when he's gonna say it.
And obviously Trump has been gagged, so who knows?
Maybe they're trying to make a decision right now about, well, if you go out and speak, they'll throw you in prison.
Okay, so Trump not cuffed, approaching the media now to make statements after being found guilty on all 34 accounts in the most rigged, corrupt trial, perhaps in definitely modern U.S. history, maybe all U.S. history, Donald J. Trump.
This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt.
It's a rigged trial, a disgrace.
They wouldn't give us a venue change.
We were at 5% or 6% in this district, in this area.
This was a rigged, disgraceful trial.
The real verdict is going to be November 5th by the people.
And they know what happened here, and everybody knows what happened here.
You have a sore respect, DA, and the whole thing.
We didn't do a thing wrong.
I'm a very innocent man.
And it's okay.
I'm fighting for our country.
I'm fighting for our Constitution.
Our whole country is being raped right now.
This was done by the Biden administration in order to wound or hurt an opponent, a political opponent.
And I think it's just a disgrace.
And we'll keep fighting.
We'll fight till the end, and we'll win.
Because our country's gone to hell.
We don't have the same country anymore.
We have a divided mess.
We're nation in decline, serious decline.
Millions and millions of people pouring into our country right now from prisons and from mental institutions, terrorists, and they're taking over our country.
Well, this is real tyranny, and this is lawfare, and we knew this was coming, and the judge thought maybe the jury would find him not guilty, so he said, just find him guilty no matter what.
This is true war against our country.
This shows they're going for absolute, totally broke, And that everybody is in extreme danger.
We want to be peaceful. We don't want any responses that are violent.
We're not going to do that. I would expect false flags.
I would expect them to stage some things.
Saying angry Trump did it.
That they may have some mentally ill people.
They may totally stage it. Think the Governor Whitmer situation.
So, that's where we are.
I know we just launched the London Reels big film about We Will Not Be Silenced.
We've got that to talk about, but obviously you guys will give analysis.
You probably want to open the phones up for people's responses about this.
But this is a historic situation that we are witnessing right now.
This is the death of our republic in our face.
Absolute total weaponization, but it's going to backfire just like all the fake indictments.
But that is what these people are doing, and they are sick, and there's nothing that they won't do.
And this is just the beginning of their tyranny.
We have the lawyers of America that believe they own this country at war with the people.
They work for the globalists. 1,000 DAs, over 20 of the U.S. attorneys or of the state attorney generals are under his control.
Most of the U.S. attorneys are under Biden's control.
In fact, all of them. So this is war against the people.
Owen, Brian Rose, you guys have a response to this.
I'm going to be doing more analysis, popping back in as this unfolds.
We'll open up the phone lines as well, and we'll skip a bunch of the breaks here, too.
We do have to take some breaks here, network breaks, but we'll skip the ones we can to get as much content in covering this and phone calls.
You know, this is such a...
It's an unpleasant reminder of how corrupt our country is.
And I don't know how else to put it.
It's a very unpleasant, rude punch in the face of just how corrupt our country is.
I mean, it's... To think that this is what they can do to anybody.
They'll do it to Trump. They'll do it to me.
They'll do it to Alex Jones. They'll do it to anybody.
And they just don't care, folks.
I mean, this is not the republic.
This is not justice. And really, I think...
It's a sinking feeling. I have a sinking feeling in my stomach, Brian.
I don't know about you. It's a sinking feeling to know that we have these types of people, corrupt people like this, that are willing to just destroy everything.
Yeah, I'm just looking at some of the faces on the street there, and you see this incredulous look from these bystanders that just are probably having a hard time processing that this could happen to a former sitting president.
And they're watching this right in front of our eyes play out.
The next move they make, it needs to be a very intelligent one.
And we need to be really careful about the events that happen next.
It's a volatile situation.
And I just don't even know what they're going to do next here.
Putting him in Rikers overnight, I don't think of anything that's more incendiary right now to a situation that's already very tense.
And here's the other realization that's happening right now is the people that made this happen or wanted this to happen are having a really somber moment because they have to be careful what they just wished for.
And again, the Republic that they supposedly loved, they have to know now that it's never going to be the same again.
So, yeah, I think we're going to see a lot of that feeling going forward.
It's going to change his perspective on things and probably put him into a headspace that he hadn't been before.
And maybe that's a good thing.
You know, Brian, I also think that this is going to send the mainstream media, definitely the conservative right-wing side, and maybe even elements of the left, this is going to send the mainstream media closer to Infowars than they've ever been before.
That's how obviously corrupt this case is.
This is going to be a slap in the face to mainstream media who wants to pretend that, oh, it's just normal America.
Oh, everything's fine. Everything's Danny.
Everything's cool. Do your news pieces.
Read the teleprompter and go home.
That ain't it anymore.
This is going to be a big reality check, I think, for the mainstream news.
They're going to have to realize, yeah, you know what, maybe those guys, maybe those conspiracy theorists, maybe those tinfoil hat wearers over there at Infowars, you know, maybe their attitude, maybe their vibe, maybe that was the right one this whole time.
And if this doesn't show you that, I don't know what will.
You know, Biden getting vote Viagra in five states at 3.30 in the morning doesn't do it.
I don't know. I mean, how does this not do it?
All right, the phone number. We're going to take calls, live coverage of this as more news comes out.
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Responses to Trump being found guilty on all 34 charges.
Shocking. To say the least.
Alright, in case you're just tuning in, Trump found guilty all 34 charges.
And it's just hard to even grasp just how corrupt our country is.
I mean, this is just, you know, just another example of it.
The sentencing is going to be July 11th.
That's just days before the convention, the Republican convention, where Trump is assumed to be nominated.
So they're obviously not going to hold him in prison until the sentencing.
But that's when we find out what the punishment will be.
July 11th.
I mean, what do you do? What is Trump's next move now?
And can you imagine?
Oh my gosh, this is going to be such a sick, disgusting display from the liberal media tonight that just hates Trump so much.
They're going to be celebrating this corruption.
They're going to be celebrating this political persecution.
My God. The only hope If you look for the positive on the other side of this, is that the Democrat Party has to be eradicated politically.
It cannot exist anymore.
They can't have any political power.
A Democrat should not be on a bench, a teacher, nothing.
These people have been completely deranged politically.
But see, there's no doubt that There's no doubt that they want to use this and try to have another January 6th moment and mop up a bunch of other Trump supporters and mop up a bunch of other media people and then say, oh, you caused violence.
We're arresting you. So...
Obviously, nobody here has ever called for violence, but that doesn't matter.
I sit... In D.C. and try to stop January 6th from happening, and then they say, oh, I did January 6th, you're going to jail.
So that's how corrupt this is.
Doesn't matter that we're on tape saying, don't go in the building, stop this, it'll be used against us.
Then they just say, nope, Troyer, you're going to prison.
So we're going to start taking calls on this.
Maybe we'll be hearing from some other guests, some other lawyers as well, big scenes outside, a bunch of Trump supporters outside.
And we have Roger Stone on the line.
Is he on the phone or he's on Skype with us?
All right. My former co-host, able to join me live...
Roger, I don't have anything special to pitch to you.
This is a moment that every American is going to remember.
Sadly, I'm not shocked.
I've seen this movie before with the gagging of Donald Trump just as I was gagged by the judge refusing to recuse himself despite the fact that he was a Biden donor and that his daughter was making a fortune off of this trial.
Just as the judge in my case made prejudicial statements regarding May refused to recuse herself.
A refusal of a change of venue to a location where you might get a more balanced jury.
The limitation of witnesses saying that Donald Trump could not bring the former head of the Federal Election Commission In as an expert witness to say that these transactions had not violated federal election law, just as I was not allowed to bring Bill Binney, the former high-level counterintelligence IT expert from the CIA in, to prove that no one ever hacked The Democratic National Committee.
So I see the same tyranny in this trial that I saw in my own trial.
I guess in retrospect, I was the template for this.
I was the test run.
It didn't get much coverage because I'm not a former president, but the president has been subjected to the exact same And Roger, I want you to roll through that and have the floor here because this is viral.
Well, Alex, first of all, one cannot poll within the eye of the storm.
I see online people already have insta-polls out.
Those appear to prove that the president has sustained no damage that the American people have seen through this.
But it's going to be a day or two.
We also don't know whether Given the irregularities, there is some possibility of Trump appealing directly to the U.S. Supreme Court on due process issues.
That's very rarely accepted, but very rarely have we had a president of the United States in this circumstance.
Well, that's right. And Roger, let me add that next big point.
I want you to continue on here. We're going to take this live feed and put it out on my X account in like five minutes.
I want you to continue on. You're gracious to be with her as this huge news breaks.
Obviously, you'll talk to Trump tonight.
You'll be able to come back on with us tomorrow on my show and Owen's show and the other shows here at Infowars while we're still here.
Very dark days. I want to have a cautionary alert here.
I am viscerally angry.
I am physically angry over this because my rights are being robbed to vote for who I want.
This is a tyranny. It's like having your house robbed, but far worse, or your children raped.
We have to be very careful.
If I was the deep state, they will stage some false flags, provocateur something, like the failed Whitmer kidnapping that came out in court was staged and made up by the FBI, or January 6th.
I'm very concerned about them provocaturing something.
Roger Stone. You're absolutely right, Alex, that much of this is meant to provoke people.
People can not be provoked.
Again, we still don't know all of the ramifications.
We don't know, for example, when sentencing will be.
We don't know whether Trump is theoretically going to be confined to home in confinement.
Which would certainly cramp his campaign style, which is really their goal, or whether he'll even be allowed to remain at liberty pending appeal.
That is not automatic, not with this wildly partisan judge.
So I think we have to let this play out over the next couple days.
I suspect you're going to have a surge of millions of dollars into Trump's campaign coffers, which is important because Biden has been out raising him, although last month Trump did out-raise Biden, but overall, when you include the party committees, they've out-raised us.
What do they do with the Secret Service in the event that they elect to send him to Rikers Island?
Does he get two agents to go there with him?
And this makes very little sense.
They know this will be overturned.
They don't care. The point was to get the headlines, to get the moniker, so they can now gloat about it.
And the fact that they were only in for 11 hours on a 34-count indictment, Experienced criminal defense lawyers tell me if there was serious consideration, they'd been in there for a week.
They probably do it. I mean, sentencing being July 11th, there's probably some agreements between what he can and can't do now and then to remain out of prison.
It's normally how it goes, so I don't know what those agreements are.
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Roger, do you care to speculate? Yeah, no, you raise an excellent point.
I think he will. There is a way to do that based on everything I have read.
Very rare that the U.S. Supreme Court will hear it, but they do have authority to reach down to any court, state or federal, when there's a violation of due process, which I think has been the case here.
Well, and I guess, considering the debates are coming up as well, that Okay, sorry.
So, yeah, I'm guessing here that one of the motives is to keep Trump off the campaign trail.
I mean, there's no doubt about that.
This is all being run from the White House, at least to a certain extent, with the judge's daughter getting hundreds of millions of dollars from the Democrats.
I mean, I'm sure that that's not a coincidence that that's what's going on here.
Do you think that they just cancel a debate?
I mean, what do they do next?
Because there's so many different things on the table right now.
This is the centerpiece of their defense strategy, pardon me, of their debate strategy.
This is all about Joe Biden being able to say to Donald Trump, you're a convicted felon.
The correct response would be, of course, and Joe, you should be and you will be soon enough.
Because the House Republicans, just this past week, more evidence of Joe Biden meeting with the Chinese, ironically, at a Sandy Hook memorial event, cutting a $10 million-a-year deal for the Biden crime family.
So there's plenty there.
Trump's best tactic is to turn this around on him.
He can negate this trial by denouncing it as rigged.
But then he can spin immediately on to the vulnerabilities of Hunter and Joe and Jim Biden, which are actually genuine, egregious financial and tax crimes.
Well, that's why this is also Twilight Zone, especially when you see that Biden-Harris statement, which, by the way, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy that released that statement is fired.
This has happened multiple times with the Biden White House where they just get some rogue member of their team to make a statement that never got approved because these people are just completely off the chain.
So they might even come out and say, oh, we didn't mean to release that.
I mean, that's how bad this is.
But it's also Twilight Zone.
Like you said, Biden is the one that's committed the crimes.
Biden is the one that's above the law.
Hillary Clinton is the one with FEC ethics violations.
She was never in court. That's the first thing I thought when I read the statement, I heard the statement from the Biden-Harris campaign.
Nobody's above the law.
Except for Hillary Clinton, except for Andrew McCabe, except for John Brennan, except for James Comey, except for John Podesta.
Nobody is against the law except for Eric Holder.
Those people are above the law.
That's the real irony here.
And you're right.
Hillary Clinton did exactly this.
She paid for opposition research, a dirty dossier that was completely fraud.
She got defrauded. And she cloaked it as legal expenses in her Federal Election Commission report.
And she was fined, I believe it was $8,000.
And the party was fined $100,000 for this illegal bookkeeping error.
There's not even evidence that what Trump did rises to the level of a federal election commission crime.
But Trump couldn't prove that to the jury because the judge prevented the leading campaign finance law expert in the country from testifying on behalf of Trump.
Now again, we don't know what the probation agreements, certainly there's something out there and maybe the legal documents will be made public or Trump's team will publish them, but there's certainly some ramifications with dealing with probation until sentencing.
That's just kind of standard protocol and the fact that he's not In cuffs right now going to jail would tell me that there's probably some strict limitations either on his speech or more importantly on his travel.
To me, Roger, I think the smartest move for Trump would be he needs to announce a rally and have it as soon as possible.
Maybe in New York City because they probably won't let him travel anywhere.
I doubt he's under house arrest, but maybe they're saying he can't leave the district or something.
I mean, to me, take this momentum and have the biggest rally that New York City has ever seen.
Yeah, no doubt now is the time if he's going to utilize that with a short report or something else.
But yeah, Madison Square Garden, he has the momentum of this, all eyes on him.
He could fill the arena.
It puts the challenge back on the Biden campaign who just failed to fill a high school gymnasium in Philadelphia.
I mean, if Biden can't fill a high school gymnasium in Philadelphia and Trump fills the Madison Square Garden, then all they have is these corrupt trials.
All right, Brian Rose in studio, Roger Stone with me.
We have to take this break. It's a short break, and we'll be right back with your phone calls and any other breaking news we have from this decision today.
If Trump was guilty and we actually had a justice system, then this wouldn't be as gut-wrenching, soul-sinking as a moment.
But when Joe Biden and the Biden crime family get away with all their crimes, when Hillary Clinton gets away with all her crimes, when no Epstein clients are in court or being arrested, the list just goes on and on and on.
There is no justice.
That's the most clear, obvious examples to show that this is all political persecution against Donald Trump.
Alex is filing some special reports.
He'll be rejoining us. We're about to go to some phone calls as well.
Brian Rose in studio. Brian, you've had a little more time to palette this.
I mean, you... And Alex and the team here, I mean, you're the only broadcaster that can even purport to have experienced something like this.
I mean, a victim of lawfare.
I mean, how do you mentally bounce back from something like that and not just run into this cynical spiral where you just say to hell with the world when I can't even try to do what I'm trying to do, what I know is right.
Now, how do you bounce back from that?
And I'm wondering if we can see some insight into someone like Trump bouncing back from that.
I mean, the judge... Yeah, well, let me respond to the first thing you said real quick.
Let me respond to that real quick because I was actually just talking to Brian about that in the break.
And it's not that I'm surprised.
It's that there's always something in you.
You can't help it. There's just always something in you that keeps a hope, even if it's like a 0.1%, like maybe someone will do the right thing.
Maybe they'll do the right thing. Maybe there's still hope here.
And so maybe you just cling to that instead of the negative.
But... It's like going into the ring with Mike Tyson.
It's like, yeah, okay, I know I'm going into the ring with Mike Tyson.
I'm going to take a right hook. But then you take the right hook.
And then, boom, that's the right hook.
Yep, you just felt it. It's real.
And so it's the finality of it.
It's the reality of it hitting your jaw and feeling it.
And so that's kind of the moment I think Trump is in and I think that we're all in.
It's not that we didn't know Mike Tyson's right hook wasn't heading towards our face.
Now it's just landed.
And so that's kind of the shock of it.
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But I guess my point is, and it's overused, like the Obi-Wan Kenobi moment, and while listening, waiting, it came to me more aptly the metaphor of, he just went in against the Balrog and said, you shall not pass.
And we're sad, they're crying little, you know, Frodo on the rocks.
While he's falling, he's now in the most exciting part of these movies right now.
And it's going to be the thing that he came out as he was Gandalf the Orange.
Now he's going to be Gandalf the White.
You know what I mean? And like you said, the media now has got to deal with their own.
They just made a whole bunch of statements that they got to either somehow figure out how to about face on, which is going to be stupid looking for everybody else, and more approving of it, or Everybody's going to say, have a come to Jesus moment and say, oh my gosh, we're going to lose this place.
That's what it is, Bobby. And I'm so glad you said that because that's what I'm trying to explain here.
And, you know, this is why you made your documentary, which probably a great time to release it at the debut.
You couldn't have timed it better, I'm sure.
But it's the sense of urgency is what it is.
It's the sense of urgency.
And nobody...
Really has led in that regard like Infowars has led.
And that's kind of what separates Infowars from the rest of the media.
But that's what I'm saying. If you're in the media now, specifically on the right wing, I mean the left wing, you'll have probably a bunch of people Jeffrey tubing themselves on air tonight over this deal.
But if you're in the conservative media, the right wing media, even a Trump supporter of the media, if you don't have a sense of urgency after this...
Maybe this is the silver lining that they're going to have to just start to see that we're going to need much more from them.
And again, it just really highlights what you guys have been always doing and what you've done.
And yeah, it was the perfect time to drop our film on the Trump verdict, but it actually is the message of our film, how important it is to make sure that we're allowed to speak the truth and have these voices out there.
And this is just a perfect example of that.
And you can only hope that that will change the way that people report the news going forward.
Yes. Okay, so I wanted to start this out with, I had two things I wanted to say.
So, number one...
I think that if they do get to a point where they can put Trump in jail, they need to figure out who's going to be his Secret Service detail because That's like the most basic setup to be Epstein, in my opinion.
That's what I think is going to happen if he goes to jail.
I think they're going to try to kill him, and then that's probably why they keep saying, oh, we won't have to worry about anything because the Constitution will take care of this, is what Biden keeps saying.
I think that's what's going to happen if they do make him go to jail.
Well, Secret Service has already made communications and plans with Rikers in case that goes on.
And, you know, we could go on forever talking about how this flow of power works.
But, I mean, essentially the way it's supposed to go is once Trump gets into Rikers, Secret Service runs that prison.
I mean, that's it. That's under Secret Service's jurisdiction.
Everybody else is second banana to Secret Service.
So, you know...
I don't know if there's necessarily going to be a power struggle in that exchange, but Secret Service takes over that building the minute Trump goes in.
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Perfect. Well, that's good for him at least.
But then the other thing that I wanted to say is, I mean, I'm not calling for violence.
Nobody's doing that on this show, obviously.
But I think everybody in the back of their minds as an American has some little bit of peace in the back of their heads thinking, like, once this goes down, I mean, we...
If it keeps going the way that it's going with all this persecution and all this crap, 1776 is going to happen again.
They can't take Trump away.
It can't happen. I don't think they understand what they're doing and the power that he has behind him.
Yeah, there might be false flags and all that, but there's going to be a real one and people are not going to realize what's going on.
I don't know. I just think that at some point the American people are going to be so sick and tired of this crap that they're just going to end up actually taking the government back over because it's too tyrannical.
Well, look, that's why January 6th was a pivotal moment because there was a true, organic, millions of people that showed up peacefully.
I mean, they didn't even find a single weapon.
Right? So, I mean, that was an organic event.
A million people plus showed up to Washington, D.C. on January 6th in a peaceful demonstration to support the review of how the election went down and all the laws that were broken in order to get Biden in office, period.
That's what happened. And then the involvement of the left or the feds or the Democrats, whatever, the implants that they had in the police or whoever else was in there embedded in the whole thing, Bowser standing down the National Guard, that was because they wanted...
To own that moment that should have been ours.
And they did. I mean, tip your cap.
They did it. They owned that moment.
That should have been our moment for a peaceful protest.
I mean, the next million man march.
And we would have reviewed the election laws that they broke.
And who knows what happened.
And they stole it from us. And they took it from us.
So, I don't know if it happens again as far as people mobilizing peacefully to show support for Donald Trump.
But... What you're getting at is people are just going to say, well, what else can we do?
We either let our country get conquered.
Because here's what it is. This is something nasty that's been laying beneath the surface that we've all known is there.
Well, now it's surfaced.
Alright, now it's surfaced and everybody can see what we got here.
And it's total corruption in our government.
It's total corruption of American politics.
So that's what we're dealing with.
And it's been embedded for so long.
Trying to remove it in a political fashion is like brain surgery.
So it's not going to be easy.
But this is another reminder of how bad it is.
Thanks for the call. Let's go to Robert in Florida.
Robert you're on the air go ahead We'll get Robert here.
One more time, guys.
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Robert, go ahead. Thanks for all you guys do.
I'll continue to support InfoWars until the end.
DNA Force has helped me regain some functions in my hand.
Alex had a finger amputated kind of thing.
I had the same thing, Mike.
My points are quick. I think that this is more hysteria.
I saw that Biden secretly allowed Ukraine to attack on Russian soil with U.S. weapons.
This also is poking the bear as a U.S. bear to kick off a civil war.
I mean, it's just, it's like we're watching a circus in Lifetime.
And I don't think that people understand the ramifications of a civil war.
It's not just we march in and take the government back.
Hundreds of thousands of people will die because of that.
Matt Baker, go ahead. Oh man, it's disgusting, filthy, disgusting, grubby, slithering worms, Democrats, scum.
Do you feel like you just cheated on your wife?
You got away with it, but now you got to wake up and you got to look at your wife.
You got to look at this country in the morning.
You filthy, dirty, scum.
You filth. Look at what you've done, you scum.
Shame on you.
And I've got to tell everyone, I've never donated any money to Trump campaign.
I'm going to donate $100 right now.
I want every single person to blow up his account with so much money that in the morning they come out like, oh my god, he just got a billion dollars because of this.
We have to make it a giant victory.
I'm also going to go back and I'm going to flip my flag upside down.
I'm about to go do some man on the street reporting.
This is a dark, dark day.
It is disgusting.
It is deep. It is dark.
It is cold, like ice running through the veins of America.
You talk about it's like you just cheated on your wife and now you have to go look her in the eye.
Everybody knows how corrupt this judge was.
Everybody knows how corrupt...
I mean, they can't hide it anymore.
It's out there. It's out there.
You know, it's like everybody, it's like if you, you know, your wife is throwing all your clothes outside the bedroom window into the lawn and just keyed your car, and the neighbors are like, well, what's going on?
Oh, yeah, you cheated on me. I mean, everybody knows how corrupt they are.
This isn't a secret deal anymore.
It's like we know the players, we know who's corrupt, and they just get away with it.
You know, I'm not surprised, but I'm still incredibly disappointed.
I'm disappointed as if I was surprised.
And I agree with everything that we've been talking about all day, Alex, from the beginning of your show and the Alex Jones show about how it's more important now than ever that we avoid falling victim of another false flag operation, similar to what we saw with January 6th and how there was so much federal involvement.
I'm really concerned that the New World Order globalists, political elite leftists, whatever you want to call them, are going to use this as an opportunity to make right-wing patriotic Americans look bad by catalyzing something or doing something.
Yeah, I mean, heading into the election, I think it's going to be next level chaos because this type of thing, we've seen this happen before, but unlike anything like this before.
So when I look at this, I think immediately about the information warfare that's going
to happen.
So the next thing that we're going to see is actually a major asset test for, I think,
the X platform.
You're going to see huge chaos here personally, where a lot of people are going to try and
spin things a certain way on both sides even.
So that's kind of what I'm afraid of.
I'm also afraid of the fact that some may try to incite violence.
I really hope that no one's going to have—I really hope no one is going to be violent
against us again this time, because it's something that I personally just don't want to see and
I don't think it's a way to solve this, because already there's a sentiment of civil war going
It's like, whoa, that is something that I don't think anyone would want to see.
So I like to stay neutral on this.
It's actually quite difficult for me to speak on anything because, yeah, and also given the fact that we're like, I don't know if Biden's going to win again.
There may be a chance. But then you also have other people within the pipeline trying to say, okay, that's not the case.
There's some cases to be made there.
And so it's really, really confusing.
The cognitive dissonance is just really tearing myself apart here.
When you're on X, for instance, try not to post anything that's stupid or that is just blatantly wrong.
This is something as well, because we do have free speech here.
There's absolutely no doubt about that.
Of course, there are instances where people go too far, and then you have certain policies that must be enacted, things that are illegal.
And then, of course, you have that be removed, which is perfectly fine.
This is literally how the world works.
You can say whatever you want, But the consequences will come a knocking.
So I think the biggest asset test for at least the people producing content will be trying to produce it in such a way that there's actually accountability ensured.
I think a lot of people are already doing this, but there are some people here that are trying to stoke the fires of World War III mostly.
So that will be another added vector of attack, especially for Elon.
And I think those things may even become more intense as we go along either by
Either either by malicious intent or just because the engagement is amazing
So this is another thing like if you see something that is obviously trying to stir violence
I'd stay away from that because that does that's not good for anyone
Like producing actual good information would be very nice.
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That would be really good No, I totally agree. I mean, I totally agree.
So perhaps trying not to be disgusted with one another is a start.
Because I've also seen this immediately post-start coming up and people saying, This is going to be the end of everything.
It's like, no, no, no. You're going to wake up the next morning.
You still have a job there somewhere.
You have to make sure that that job is still there because we are always trying to still live, right?
We shouldn't have an event like this determine whether we wake up next morning and grab a gun or whether we wake up next morning, grab the newspaper with a little coffee, read this stuff and say, this is interesting.
This is entertaining. Okay, let's get to work and let's make some money.
Economically. It impacts me economically, I think, because this is one of those things which heavily shifts sentiments into various directions.
I'm not sure which direction exactly, so that's something that still needs to be figured out.
But this impacts everyone economically, at least.
So even if you don't have any political opinions whatsoever, any decision that is political will affect you in some capacity.
Of course, you can make economic decisions to essentially defend yourself against what I would call a difficulty adjustment wavefront, which is what a sentiment shift looks like.
But that's the only thing that I really focus on.
This is also why I primarily focus on tech because I don't like to be offensive, which is when you get into the sphere of politics and you have opinions on this and you start to try and create sentimental vibe shifts within that sphere.
I think that's kind of like offensive.
I like to be more defensive, neutral, and just stay in a base, so to speak.
And that is basically tech and looking at it economically as opposed to just politically.
I think he's saying he's going to see what happens.
He doesn't know yet. Let me ask you this, Adrian.
Looking at this, with 158 days out from the election, regardless, you nailed it, the threat of violence, the threat of being stirred up or people actually doing it, I think that's king.
What do you think, looking at the establishment, which I know is a diverse group, they seem to think they can get power out of a crisis.
If you were talking to the establishment right now, which is a diverse group, what would you tell them?
Well, I mean, I think you made the point that the globalists, the elites act like they're unified.
They're not. And it is an important question to ask, what do they want?
Because if you look at Klaus Schwab resigning and Melinda Gates resigning and a thousand plus CEOs the last month resigning, this happened right before COVID and right before 2008.
What does Adrian Dittman think about the record level of resignations from the establishment?
You know, this is the thing. Everybody wants to get to a certain point.
Everyone has their version of what prosperity looks like, and everyone kind of has their own version on how to execute upon that idea, right?
So the plan, of course, is there, but it's more like there isn't the plan, but there is a goal, and there are multiple plans to try and reach that goal.
And I think that goal is perhaps even prosperity.
Just some things get lost in execution, perhaps.
But other than that, that That's what I'm trying to say with the plans.
Everyone has one. It's not that there isn't one, you know, or that at least there isn't one in particular.
It's more like the goal that one should be focusing on and how you get there.
The future of the dollar? I don't think it will disappear.
It may shift into something more digital, for sure.
I think that could be something that's scalable.
Right now we're using the dollars if it was digital anyways.
I mean, most of the money I think even moves only via digital as opposed to physical, because it doesn't make any sense anymore.
So I think it would have a shift to something that is more digital, for sure.
As for Bitcoin, I mean, I mean, it could be institutionalized, I think, which is kind of ironic because it somewhat runs contrary to the idea of what Bitcoin essentially is.
But at this moment, I think the biggest struggle for what Bitcoin is, is actually creating a market in which only Bitcoin is being used to trade.
So for instance, right now we are measuring the value of Bitcoin by how much fiat it equates to.
It's kind of a fallacy, because if you want there to be a true currency, then you say, okay, this is the actual value.
The currency is the value of utility.
So, for instance, if I have some sort of thing that I'm trying to sell you, be it hardware or software or anything, if there's a certain amount of Bitcoin that that's worth, then now you have Bitcoin as actual currency.
As opposed to saying, okay, that's how much the hardware is worth, this much in fiat, thereby I must give you this much in Bitcoin.
That's the difference. That's what they'd have to essentially establish.
I think this will happen largely naturally, but I also think that institutionalization will happen for Bitcoin.
I think people are taking a large interest in it because it's basically digital gold.
And I think as we're moving towards something that's more of an Information-based economy, we're also going to move to something that is stored in bits as opposed to just actual physical gold.
Because, I mean, that seems to be the current shift of things anyways.
But I don't think the dollar will disappear.
I think that's unlikely, but that's just my opinion.
We know you're busy. But last question, because you're quite the buff on Elon Musk, and I am too.
I hear Elon Musk say in 20 years we could be on Mars with bases or even sooner.
If you look at exponential technology development, if we actually invest in something, it actually happens every time.
Humans are incredible. I see that actually as a...
As a pessimistic goal, if we actually had goals, we could probably do it in 10 years just because we could do anything we want.
What do you think overall of why Elon Musk has been so successful with his rocketry and his space exploration and And people say, well, why do we invest in Mars?
Well, because they'd invest in us.
The whole technological revolution we live under was, you know, NASA's experiments.
So I'm fully behind space exploration.
We're pioneers. I want undersea exploration.
Everything. What is your view on Elon Musk and SpaceX and where that's going?
And how do you support that?
Or how does the public, if you do support it, supercharge it as a goal?
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I think there's not much that can be done to Supercharger, perhaps, except for talking about it.
It's actually funny that not many people know about SpaceX or what Starship is and what that means.
Whenever this big rocket goes up and it blows up, people think, oh, it's a failure.
No, that's how you gather knowledge.
That's how you gather intel. You have to understand how the system works, and that's just experimentation.
It's like saying, oh, the lightbulbs failed.
No, I just created different versions of lightbulbs and this one happened to work the best.
It's like what Edison would do.
So in this case, people should look into it more and think, oh, this is awesome.
Just keep it in their minds somewhere and say, yes, this is happening.
We're going to be a space-faring civilization at some point.
I think by and large, many people often think about Star Wars or Star Trek, and they think, hey, I kind of want parts of that future to be here on Earth with us now.
So if you want that to be the case, then I think that's something you should look into, because space exploration is Vastly important to humanity, not just from the perspective of spreading civilization to other planets, but also to mine resources more effectively.
Because you can then tap into something like the asteroid belt, and that, I think, would spare Earth quite a lot of the destructive mining.
Because you kind of want this place to be a sanctuary, as opposed to just exploiting it and potentially creating environmental damages, of course.
Follow me? Well, right here on X. Just right here on X. By the way, just for a bit of a personal clarification, I am not Elon Musk.
Just for people to understand this, I'm also not his alt account.
This would actually be, I think if I was his alt account, there would be It creates so many difficulties, that doesn't make any sense.
You'd think that the smartest person, well, actually I would say the most successful person, I'd say the most successful person on Earth, going by money at least, by achievements and just by sheer impact alone, would be smart enough to not speak with his own voice on space.
Oh no, I predicted it before the trial, and then I attenuated it because I said the trial went so badly, there's no way, there's a little bit of an increase in likelihood of a hung jury.
They've crossed another Rubicon.
I was thinking when I was driving, I just got new glasses, and I hope they don't look too communist.
I'm driving, and it's like I'm not angry, I'm not enraged, I'm just disappointed the way you're disappointed in Your children, your friends, when they betray you and you trusted them, or at least you thought they would do the right thing.
It's a joke. It's an absolute joke.
The timing of it is a joke.
They squeaked in this conviction the week or two before SCOTUS is going to rule on immunity, which might have an impact on this.
They squeaked this in right at the same time they're running an all-out PR war against conservative SCOTUS judges and their wives or their spouses.
About how they're politically biased.
Presumably because we know where that immunity case is gonna go and it might have an impact on this.
But it's just the next level of the Rubicon that they're crossing.
And there's only one more after this.
And I don't even like thinking about it.
I know you've suggested it.
Tucker's been talking about it.
There's only one other Rubicon to cross here.
They say we're not Russia, we're not Putin.
We don't jail our adversaries.
Trump is the one, if he gets in office, he's gonna politically persecute his- It's imprisonment or assassination.
Well, and I had another theory, like maybe they're gonna try to, you know, if they're gonna do a false flag or someone's retaliating against this, that would be a way of getting Biden off the ticket and then framing it so they can go after Trump even more and whatever.
But the problem is there's no bottom to this depths of depravity to which the political left is seeking.
Grand larceny, structuring the crime so that he didn't flag the bank by taking out more than the daily threshold of cash and committed perjury on the stand.
And he's rejoicing.
Literally, I don't follow the Bible, but I know of the verses.
It's good verse being evil and evil being framed as good.
Good evening. First and foremost, I want to thank the jury for its service.
Jurors perform a fundamental civic duty.
Their service is literally the cornerstone of our judicial system.
We should all be thankful for the careful attention that this jury paid to the evidence and the law and their time and commitment over these past several weeks.
Twelve everyday New Yorkers, and of course our alternates, heard testimony from 22 witnesses, including former and current employees of the defendant, media executives, book publishers, Custodians of records and others.
They reviewed call logs, text messages and emails.
They heard recordings. They saw checks and invoices, bank statements and calendar appointments.
This type of white collar prosecution is core to what we do at the Manhattan district attorney's office.
In the 1930s, District Attorney Thomas Dewey ushered in the era of the modern independent professional prosecutor.
For now nearly 90 years, dedicated professionals in this office have built upon that fine tradition.
A major part of our practice during that nearly 90 years has been public integrity work, including cases involving jurists, local and state electeds, public servants and others.
I want to thank this phenomenal prosecution team, embodying The finest traditions of this office, professionalism, integrity, dedication, and service.
Oh my God. Something that happened before he even announced he was running.
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Maybe unlike any other in American history, we arrived at this trial and ultimately today at this verdict In the same manner as every other case that comes to the courtroom doors.
By following the facts and the law and doing so without fear or favor.
I want to conclude by expressing deep gratitude to the NYPD and the officers of the Office of Court Administration for securing the courthouse, all of our safety, making sure the courthouse and all of the other matters that are important in their own right.
It's not the first time when Hochul literally came out and said, don't worry, businesses, don't flee New York after the Angeron case.
This can only happen to Trump, basically, is what she said.
They're saying the quiet part out loud.
This is the abusive spouse rubbing the The injury in the face of the person he abuses.
Like, look what we got away with.
They listen to witnesses, one of whom is a lying porn star who lies about lying.
The other is a convicted perjurer, according to another New York judge, who chose to believe the convicted perjurer, who lied on the stand, admitted to crimes on the stand.
And those are the two star witnesses to draw the connection to make this what would otherwise be a time-lapsed misdemeanor.
Into a 34-charge felony, and they keep saying 34 charges, guilty on all counts.
If they were gonna find him guilty on one, they were gonna find him guilty on all 34, because they are all iterations of the same Alleged scheme, signing the check, signing the ledger, entering it in the books.
It's a steaming load of crap.
And there was a glint of optimism that I had that you'd have the two lawyers on the jury or two people on the jury, one, who would not be so politically prejudiced they would jump on this lynch mob.
But no, they couldn't help themselves.
The judge did everything he could to facilitate this outcome.
It's Beyond question, to some extent, that it gets overturned in appeal.
It's questionable as to whether or not the immunity coming out of the SCOTUS ruling is going to impact this.
But they've got the headlines, and they're going to run with them until they're blue in the face for however long they have this headline to run with, and even beyond.
Because he did get convicted. Even if it gets overturned, they got the headline they wanted.
Owen, it doesn't even matter if he slept with her, that he did or he didn't.
That's the issue about the unduly prejudicial testimony from Stormy Daniels.
It doesn't matter whether he did or did not sleep with her, how big his wee-wee is, whether or not he wore a condom, what she was thinking when she was having sex with allegedly another person in her illustrious career.
It didn't matter. But they brought her testimony on to prejudice the jury.
He could or could not have had sex with her.
Irrelevant. The monies went to her at the end of the day.
The only question was, was it part of a deal that Donald Trump structured for an NDA? And then the question is, even if it was, it's still not a crime.
John Edwards set that precedent however many, you know, a decade and a half ago.
So it was only a question of whether or not that payment was part of a structure that Trump It's orchestrated and ordered in that 86-second call that the convicted liar and admitted criminal Michael Cohen says Trump did when he called up to get the Secret Service to look into a 14-year-old kid who was pranking him.
It's a joke, but it's destroying the – I mean, I guess New York is going to get what it deserves because people are going to leave that hellhole.
And I tweeted it back when Angeron's decision came out, get the heck out of New York, hashtag get out of New York.
And they looked into this, whether or not it was election campaign contribution violations.
They looked into this. It wasn't.
Alvin Bragg, who's now commending his corrupt system, chose to decline this case back in the day, but brought it back up.
Soros funded Alvin Bragg.
Corrupt Judge Juan Marchand.
Political operatives Michael Cohen, who's making millions off of this.
Stormy Daniels, who has made over a million off of this, who has been circumventing monies that she owes to Donald Trump by structuring her Netflix deal in a way that doesn't allow the money to flow through her so she doesn't have to pay it to Trump.
The criminals are on the stand, and the criminals are convicting an innocent person.
And these Democrat idiots are sitting around clapping because they don't understand the hell that they are ushering in.
What they've managed to do now, they've criminalized, or at the very least, ostensibly criminalized the right to protest, the right to gather.
Because of what they've done with January 6th, they have now deterred everybody from gathering peacefully because they know they run the risk of having that retrospectively, retroactively turned into something it wasn't.
They're They're criminalizing freedom, and they're destroying the country while purportedly upholding the Constitution with a capital C. I mean, it's demon stuff like I've never thought I'd ever see in my entire life.