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| You know, immediately you start seeing things. | ||
| The first thing I saw there was, for example, a Chinese hotel. | ||
| A hotel that's just straight up full of Chinese people that are on their way to the United States. | ||
| The hotel is filled? Yes, with people that are on the way to the U.S. It was interesting. | ||
| It wasn't quite a hotel, actually. | ||
| It was more like an Airbnb, is what I was told. | ||
| A group of military-aged Syrian men, okay? | ||
| And so I filmed these people. | ||
| This was the last time I encountered them. | ||
| It was not the first time I encountered these men. | ||
| I encountered these men before I actually crossed through the Darien Gap. | ||
| We all started at the same coastal village, a village named Coreto that's in Panama. | ||
| It is such an issue of women and children getting raped on this illegal immigrant pipeline that they give them morning after pills and condoms hoping they don't get an STD or get pregnant. | ||
| So they know rape is such a normal Go to hell, New World Order. We kept you. | ||
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| Is she alright? Seems okay if we can get to it. | ||
| If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine. | ||
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Harrison, visit InfoWars.com forward slash show now. | |
| I hope that old man got that tractor beam out of commission or this is going to be a real short trip. | ||
| Okay, Han. | ||
| While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. | ||
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| Now, my in-studio guest, Anthony Rubin, has been down to the border. | ||
| He's been covering it. He's seen it firsthand, what's going on. | ||
| And so I want to talk to him now about that situation. | ||
| And it's a good juxtaposition to sit here and be threatened by people like Zelensky and Lloyd Austin and others that, oh, if we don't endlessly give money to Ukraine and everything else, that you'll have to die and you'll have to go to war. | ||
| It's a national security threat, but my guess is the national security threat is Obviously, much more extreme at the southern border. | ||
| But this is just common sense. | ||
| I mean, that's what's so crazy. | ||
| This is how dumb they think we are or how much of a trance they think they have us in. | ||
| You've seen it firsthand. If we're really to believe that somehow Russians are a threat to us, well then they could walk right over the southern border tomorrow, essentially. | ||
| So how is that not being addressed? | ||
| It shows that the whole thing is a lie. | ||
| But let's just focus on what you've seen down there. | ||
| And I mean, just scoop me. | ||
| I've been away for a couple months. | ||
| I'm guessing nothing has changed, still wide open, pouring over. | ||
| Yes, well, absolutely. Well, first of all, it's an honor to be with you during your first show back. | ||
| Yes, well, that is pretty crazy to think. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. And so, yeah, I mean, a lot's happened since you've been gone, man. | ||
| So what I did over the last month, from mid-October to mid-November, a month exactly, October 15th to November 15th, I went from Quito, Ecuador, all the way to the U.S. border. | ||
| I started literally in Quito, where the whole world's flying into, and Because they have the easiest entry requirements and it took me all the way up to the U.S. border where I got kidnapped by the Gulf Cartel. | ||
| And so, you know, I saw the whole thing. | ||
| I crossed through the Darien Gap. | ||
| I got smuggled into Mexico by the Sinaloa Cartel. | ||
| I rode the train of death embedded with a massive caravan. | ||
| And the point is, basically what you're saying, you know, to say this is a national security threat is an understatement. | ||
| We're being invaded. I mean, if we look at the definition of an invasion, it's an incursion by a large number of people into a sphere or space of activity. | ||
| It's clearly what's going on. So we're being invaded by, you know, every single country that you could list. | ||
| And, you know, I've seen the whole thing from Quito all the way to the U.S. border. | ||
| So any questions you have or whatever the audience might want to know, you know, I'm happy to get into it or I could just ramble on. | ||
| This is all available at muckraker.com. | ||
| I'm assuming it's where you've uploaded all this because this is an incredible story. | ||
| I guess I would ask you like this. | ||
| How hard was it for you to complete this journey? | ||
| What was the length or what was the ease of access or the difficulty of access? | ||
| It was easy because these people are capitalists, but of course the hard part is if they discover that you're an American, depending on who you're talking to, you might get kidnapped, like I was kidnapped. | ||
| And they think that they can blackmail somebody or try to extort you? | ||
| Exactly. Unless they asked, if they would ask me, I would always just tell the truth. | ||
| If I figured, okay, if I'm going to get caught, if getting caught in a lie here is going to be worse than telling the truth up front, I'm going to tell them I'm an American. | ||
| But if they didn't ask, I would just roll with whatever they said. | ||
| If they just assumed I was Russian, which that was the case a lot of times, I just went with it. | ||
| But it's incredibly easy. | ||
| Anybody, if you have enough money to pay these people, you will get from South America all the way to the U.S. border. | ||
| And of course, if you're physically able to walk through that jungle... | ||
| Which is, you know, beforehand I figured, hey, I'm an in-shape guy. | ||
| You know, you're an in-shape guy. Probably doesn't seem too daunting, which it's not. | ||
| It's not the most strenuous thing to do, physically speaking. | ||
| But then you get in there and you realize all the other circumstances. | ||
| You realize, okay, if I was to have gotten sick while I was in there, I'm a dead man. | ||
| Nobody's coming to help me. And later on the trip, I did. | ||
| I got Salmonella and E. coli and it hit me. | ||
| I was like, okay, if I had gotten sick like this in that jungle, I probably would have been a dead man. | ||
| Is that from what you ate or some of the waters you had to cross through? | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| But when you're traveling through places like that, it could be anything. | ||
| It probably was one or the other. | ||
| But yeah, you're eating all types of sketchy food. | ||
| And a lot of times, they'll put some sketchy looking tomato slice or something in your food. | ||
| You'll push it away, but it's too late. | ||
| It already touched everything. It kind of sounds like prison food to me. | ||
| Yeah. Yeah. | ||
| I'm sure it's kind of the same way. | ||
| Like, you're so starving all the time, you'll eat anything. | ||
| Exactly. I mean, at that point. | ||
| So put that map back up there. | ||
| I'm assuming this is a map of your journey. | ||
| I just want to go through basically a play-by-play with you here. | ||
| Okay. So you fly into, you said, Ecuador. | ||
| Okay. And where do you begin? | ||
| And what is your first... | ||
| Action to get into the caravan or to start your journey across the border. | ||
| So I brought with me a folder here with the most... | ||
| I have a ton more documents than this, but I just brought the most important ones. | ||
| And, you know, we're going to get into this immediately. | ||
| And as it pertains to your question, here's the first document that I want to pull out. | ||
| So you fly into Quito and, you know, immediately you start seeing things. | ||
| The first thing I saw there was, for example, a Chinese hotel. | ||
| A hotel that's just straight up full of Chinese people that are on their way to the United States. | ||
| Hotel is filled. Yes. | ||
| People that are on the way to the US. It was interesting. | ||
| It wasn't quite a hotel, actually. | ||
| It was more like an Airbnb is what I was told. | ||
| And it was fenced off, so I couldn't actually get onto the premises. | ||
| Are these well-funded, you think, Chinese nationals? | ||
| All the Chinese nationals are well-funded. | ||
| They're all taking the most expensive route. | ||
| We could get to that. When I ended up going through the gap, the route that I took was the most expensive route, and it was mostly Chinese, about 60% to 70% Chinese. | ||
| And other SIA, special interest aliens, there were Syrians in there with me. | ||
| There were Afghans, and then there were a few Venezuelans, which you don't really see in there because, again, it's the most expensive route, but we'll get to that. | ||
| But the first thing you see, so we go from Quito, we were only there for a day or two, and then we went immediately to this border town called Tolkien, which is right on the border of Colombia. | ||
| And, you know, Tolkien is, I have two artifacts I'd like to show you. | ||
| Here, try to coordinate that with the doc cam, guys. | ||
| Yeah, put the doc cam back on there so he can show you here. | ||
| So the first thing I want to show you guys, put this right here, I have multiple of them, I'll hold it up to the camera as well, is this map here. | ||
| And you see these maps everywhere. | ||
| This is a map of Ecuador. | ||
| It's a quote-unquote migration map. | ||
| I mean, you can see it yourself here. | ||
| Now, is that a UN or who hands these out? | ||
| So this is by a group R4V, but that's just a sub-agency of the United Nations directly associated with them. | ||
| And the thing about this is these are everywhere. | ||
| So, I mean, you go to a bus station in this town called Tolkien, and these are just openly displayed. | ||
| Well, as I say, it does look like here, so, I mean, if you've ever ridden public transportation or bus route, I mean, it looks just, or trains, it looks like it's just, this is the bus route, essentially. | ||
| So are these the illegal immigration pipeline routes then? | ||
| Is that what they have mapped here? This is literally what they call it. | ||
| Rutaste Refug... | ||
| However you pronounce that. | ||
| Refugiados. Immigrantes. | ||
| So that's how organized this thing is. | ||
| It has maps the equivalent of a U.S. subway system or bus system all for the illegal immigration pipeline. | ||
| And it says on the back. | ||
| I mean, you can see right here. It says on the back. | ||
| It actually tells you the bus. | ||
| Oh, yeah. Like, there's the blue line. | ||
| There's the red line. Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. And so this is all carved into Ecuador. | ||
| Now, another thing... And it's not hard to get your hands on one of these... | ||
| Oh, not at all. Like I said, this same exact map is literally displayed openly on bus stations, just in the terminal, just like a giant version of it that you can snap a picture of. | ||
| And another thing I learned, it's not just Ecuador. | ||
| All of South America is basically carved up. | ||
| They have these same things of Peru, even further south. | ||
| So that's the first thing you see. | ||
| Then you go to this town called Tolkien. | ||
| And when you get to Tolkien, like I said, it's right on the border of Colombia. | ||
| It's like every single NGO that you could imagine that is associated with this whole mass migration operation is there. | ||
| And they actually hand out these maps, and it's like a treasure map. | ||
| I mean, you guys could put the camera on that. | ||
| Every single NGO that they have in that town that has to do with this whole illegal alien pipeline is listed here. | ||
| And you could see every single one of them. | ||
| You could follow this. If you're one of these people, take this map and just go to every single one of these and get all the information or aid or instructions or maps that you need, and then cross directly into Colombia. | ||
| Each stop is posted on this map. | ||
| Now, we've got 60 seconds left until the break here, so let me just ask you this. | ||
| I mean, was this beyond what you expected to see, or were you expecting this? | ||
| And then what are you thinking when you realize what is available to anybody who wants to come in illegally and how organized it is? | ||
| Yeah, I didn't really know what I was expecting. | ||
| I knew I was going to see something, but I didn't know what I was going to see. | ||
| But once I saw this, I was like, okay, we're in the right spot now. | ||
| And it only got better from here. | ||
| I mean, this is just the beginning. It just continues to get more and more ridiculous. | ||
| I'll show you another document, which is actually quite insane, that I picked up from here. | ||
| I had to put on a condom by the IOM. Yeah, I mean, it just continues going on from here. | ||
| I mean, like I said, this is literally just, this is like an outer staging point. | ||
| There are many other points, you know, for example, in Venezuela and other parts of Colombia, and they all then converge in the gap. | ||
| So it gets more insane. This is just one stop on the outskirts. | ||
| So think about it. This is what it totally confirms. | ||
| This is government-run. | ||
| Call it the U.N. or U.S. government. | ||
| It doesn't matter. Folks, this is a subway system. | ||
| We have subway systems and maps. | ||
| Bus systems and maps. | ||
| Public transit. Funded and it is laid out just like it. | ||
| We have public transit to get into the country illegally. | ||
| Alright, I'm learning more about our guest's trip across the border. | ||
| Anthony Rubin here. Muckraker.com is the website. | ||
| At Real Muckraker.com. | ||
| On Twitter, and he's telling me a lot of these stories that it's just crazy. | ||
| I mean, wow, what a journey you had. | ||
| And it was you and your brother, so it's just incredible. | ||
| I'm not sure where I want to pick off because we just talked about so much in the break, but let's stay chronological here. | ||
| So you get these documents. | ||
| It's like, folks, have you ever been to, have you ever traveled to New York or Chicago, whatever, you get there, you're a tourist, you find, oh, you find the bus routes, you find the subway routes, and you say, oh, okay, I'm going to the Yankee game, or I'm going here, and then you look at the bus routes, you say, I'm getting on the red line, and I transfer the blue line. They have this entire infrastructure with the UN except to get to the United States of America illegally. | ||
| So you fly. | ||
| You're a tourist. You fly to New York. | ||
| You want to go to the Yankee game. | ||
| You want to go to the Empire State Building. | ||
| You want to go to Times Square. | ||
| You find the train system, the subway system, and you find out what you got to do to go there. | ||
| Oh, well, you're an illegal immigrant. | ||
| You want to come to the United States. | ||
| The exact same resources and infrastructure is available to you. | ||
| So pick it up where you left off with this map here, which is the, it's the illegal immigrant pipeline | ||
| infrastructure, which is public. | ||
| It has public transportation and documents for you to make sure it's nice and easy. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And listen, everybody that's watching this at home, you know, if you're watching this right now | ||
| and I'm not sure how far we're gonna get, but you know, for example, this map right here, | ||
| I've never seen this published anywhere. | ||
| I'm not sure if anybody has, but the point is, you know, you are probably gonna walk away | ||
| from this broadcast knowing more about the invasion of the United States than probably anybody | ||
| in the legislative branch of our government. | ||
| I mean, these people don't know anything. | ||
| They have no idea what's going on. | ||
| So this is exclusive firsthand stuff. | ||
| I'm just gonna show you this. | ||
| This is more hilarious and comical than anything, but this is actually handed out | ||
| by the International Organization of Migration, also known as the IOM, but the O-I-M in Spanish. | ||
| It's got a nice American flag on there, too. | ||
| It's got a nice American flag. But what this is, and this is literally handed out. | ||
| I tried to get the full kit, but they wouldn't give it to me. | ||
| That actually comes with the condoms and the day-after pills. | ||
| But this is literally step-by-step instructions in Spanish of how to put on a condom, if you could even believe that. | ||
| What is the purpose of this? | ||
| Well, I mean, we know they want to reduce the Earth's population, so maybe they're trying to kill two birds with one stone, right? | ||
| Collapse our country and make sure that they don't increase the population at the same time. | ||
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Are they giving out? Yeah, it comes in a whole kit, but they wouldn't give me the kit for whatever reason. | |
| But I was like, let me just take the pamphlet. | ||
| So, okay, I'm just trying to reason what the thought process here is. | ||
| Is it because when these illegal immigrants are raping women and children so they don't spread STDs or get the kids pregnant or what? | ||
| Yeah, so that's what we thought originally. | ||
| So, you know, when I went down to the Daring Gap the first time, we were seeing these kits. | ||
| I never saw it with this pamphlet, but we were seeing people come over with the kits that had the condoms and the day-after pills, and some of them had whistles, too. | ||
| So, I mean, think about that. This is the UN, and I guess this one has the American flag on it, so this is the US government involved in this somehow. | ||
| They know it is such an issue of women and children getting raped on this illegal immigrant pipeline that they give them morning after pills and condoms, hoping they don't get an STD or get pregnant. | ||
| So they know rape is such a normal issue. | ||
| There's no circumstance with this that instead of trying to stop it, they just say, well, it's at least better if you can have a morning after pill or a condom. | ||
| Correct. It literally says right here, it says in very small text, the cameras, I can pick it up, but it says in Spanish, con el apoyo financiero de, and then the American flag, with the financial support of the United States. | ||
| So, you know, all the Americans at home, you guys are paying for this. | ||
| Anyway, this is just, like I said, more comical than anything, but this is what they're handing out. | ||
| It's a big joke. Let's see what document we can get to next. | ||
| Well, so after that, I see you got that printed out there, the Chinese Hotel. | ||
| So then you cross over into Colombia. | ||
| And the first stop that we made was at this place called Pasto. | ||
| Okay? Anybody that wants to look this up at home, we are right across from the Antonio Nariño Airport. | ||
| And there is a hotel there, the Cabanas Rio Mayo Hotel. | ||
| That's where we stayed. And we just stumbled upon this hotel by accident. | ||
| We weren't looking for this. What I'm about to explain... | ||
| But what we saw there was essentially a giant Chinese staging hub, is what it was. | ||
| The entire hotel, and when I say the entire hotel, I mean, I literally spoke to hotel staff, and they confirmed that we were the only people that were staying there, the only people being me and my brother, who were not Chinese. | ||
| And I got a hold of the actual records, the books, for the people that had been staying there over the past few weeks, and I snapped photos of them. | ||
| I didn't publish it because that's what Antifa does. | ||
| That's called doxing, and that's not what I'm going to do. | ||
| There was no journalistic reason really for me to publish information publicly. | ||
| But I did. I snapped photos going back weeks, and it was every single person there was from China all headed to the United States. | ||
| So, I mean, that's what's going on. | ||
| And this is not the only such hotel that I encountered that was like this along the way. | ||
| There were more, but this is the only one that I stayed at, and I got the best footage. | ||
| I saw others along the way where I would film, and they would tell me to stop filming, and given kind of the dangerous situation, I would listen to them. | ||
| But the point is, there are hotels like this all along the way, and the Chinese are very well-funded. | ||
| They're getting to the U.S. in record time fast and everybody, because if they can, they take planes. | ||
| For example, from here, I said it's right across from an airport. | ||
| They'll take a plane across Colombia, whereas people that are coming in, for example, Ecuadorians that are coming over, they'll actually trek across Colombia or take buses. | ||
| The Chinese will fly right to the next stop. | ||
| So they'll just fly border to border, basically. | ||
| If they can, they'll fly all the way up to Mexico, if they got the appropriate visa. | ||
| Most of these people, though, are going to head to a town called Nakokli. | ||
| That's one of the last stops before they actually enter the gap. | ||
| And, you know, I actually interviewed one of these men, and he admitted to me straight up, something that we already know, it's not a secret, but it's just pretty incredible when you hear it firsthand, that there are Chinese police in the United States. | ||
| And he's just openly saying this. | ||
| He said, please blur out my face. | ||
| I don't want anybody to see me saying this openly, but just openly telling me, oh yeah, there's Chinese police in the U.S. Yeah, because, I mean, if you think about it, it's really, it has to be that way, because... | ||
| What I was going to ask you, because I really want you to finish this whole story. | ||
| We've got two segments left, but it's like somebody's running this. | ||
| Somebody's making sure that they get in. | ||
| Somebody's making sure they get the visas or whatever they need, whether it's Mexican cartels or Chinese cartels or the Chinese government or people that left and fled from China that are running this now. | ||
| I mean, people are running this from the inside. | ||
| Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we know, we know, for example, that there are a lot of, I don't really want to get off topic too much, but this is important. | ||
| There are a lot of nation states that meet in forms. | ||
| They have these big international forms and they actually talk about how, you know, borders are racist and they're imperialist and we need to, you know, allow these caravans to march up to Mexico. | ||
| Except Ukraine and Israel, they get a nice strong border. | ||
| So that's not racist. Exactly. | ||
| People, exactly. | ||
| I mean, it's a, yeah, it's a Joe, what it is, is we're being colonized, essentially, is what's happening. | ||
| I'll give people some things that they could go and they could research on their own. | ||
| They could look up the former president of Honduras, Mel Zelaya, total socialist, and he goes to these forums. | ||
| One of them is Foro Multiunidos. | ||
| Another is Foro Sao Paulo. | ||
| And these forums are basically like forums with delegates from all of these Latin American... | ||
| Socialist countries. And they're also, they have representatives from Syria there as well, and Palestine. | ||
| And they meet at these forums, and the talking point a lot of times at this forum is about how, you know, we need to allow mass migration of people through Mexico into the United States. | ||
| It's really incredible. I wish I had printed that out, but people could look up... | ||
| Joseph Humeyer, for the Center for a Secure and Free Society, who has published white papers exposing all of this, talking about how these caravans are basically like military caravans. | ||
| Think about how hard it is. | ||
| We're running out of time, but think about how hard it is, just going at the break, how hard it is to organize a group of even 10 people walking through New York City. | ||
| And think about a caravan of 6,000 people, single file, walking to the United States. | ||
| But see, and this is the question that really exposes the whole thing. | ||
| Do they ever go to any other country? | ||
| What is the final destination for all of these illegal immigrant caravans? | ||
| United States, always. Exactly. | ||
| It's an agenda, folks. | ||
| It's an invasion. Everything else they tell you is a lie. | ||
| This is an invasion and a takedown of the United States of America. | ||
| This is the only country that allows this. | ||
| All right, so this is an incredible stuff. | ||
| We're kind of getting off the chronological order of this, but that's fine because I'd rather get all the different details. | ||
| And you're telling me in the break here, again, my guest Anthony Rubin, go to his website, Muckraker.com, at RealMuckraker on Twitter. | ||
| And quite frankly, you don't need to comment on this, but this is Pulitzer Prize-winning stuff, my friend. | ||
| Really, it truly is. | ||
| And the story is even more compelling. | ||
| But again, this goes back to the national security aspect. | ||
| Because I forget what I asked you in the break that led to this, but... | ||
| Oh, I asked you, what was it that you didn't expect? | ||
| Like, were there things you expected and didn't expect? | ||
| And you said, well, there was a lot of hostility. | ||
| I wasn't expecting a lot of hostility towards America or towards Americans, right? | ||
| These people are coming to our country for a handout. | ||
| They're coming to our country for free stuff. | ||
| They're supposedly coming here to escape whatever hellhole they live in. | ||
| But you experienced a lot of hostility. | ||
| And there was one group in particular that stuck out to you. | ||
| So talk about that again and lead us into this footage. | ||
| Sure. So, okay, cool. | ||
| So I'm just going to take it from the beginning. | ||
| So... Right now, what you guys are going to see is a group of military-aged Syrian men, okay? | ||
| And so I filmed these people. | ||
| This was the last time I encountered them. | ||
| It was not the first time I encountered these men. | ||
| I encountered these men before I actually crossed through the Darien Gap. | ||
| We all started at the same coastal village, a village named Coreto that's in Panama. | ||
| These men, along with all the other illegal aliens that went into the jungle that day with me, Some odd hour of the night, maybe four or five in the morning. | ||
| They got off the boat, and they all are wearing crosses around their necks, like cross necklaces. | ||
| And you look at how rare it is to find a Christian person in Syria, and then think about how | ||
| rare it would be to find a whole group of them, and that all have interest in headed | ||
| to the United States, you know, and put them on one boat. | ||
| And they all had, you know, so it's extremely rare. | ||
| And they were all wearing these necklaces. | ||
| Some of them had tattoos that read Jesus, and they looked like fresh tattoos. | ||
| That's why that's of importance. | ||
| And they looked like fresh cross tattoos as well, some of these men had. | ||
| You know, we're talking at first, I'm talking to these men, and then as soon as they find | ||
| out that I'm an American, bam, the whole situation, the whole dynamic changes, and they get very | ||
| They don't want to associate with me at all, right? | ||
| So, I mean, like we were saying during the break, that's a clue. | ||
| There's a reason they don't want to associate with me. | ||
| It's like three clues in one. | ||
| All wearing the cross necklace, all with the fresh Christian-themed tattoos, like maybe it's a camouflage or something, and then they find out you're American, and all of a sudden they don't want to talk to you. | ||
| They get suspicious. And all military-aged. | ||
| All military-aged, not one woman or child with them. | ||
| Yeah. And they all claim to be from Homs, Syria. | ||
| H-O-M-S, Syria. | ||
| If that's any significance to anybody, maybe somebody from Homs, Syria can verify that or not if they know those people. | ||
| So anyway... We then were there for a day with these people because they get in there at around 5 in the morning, and then we didn't leave until the next day. | ||
| So we're around these men, you know, like all day for 24 hours. | ||
| And another thing that was interesting is during that time, so then that next night, the night before we had to enter the jungle, there is actually a boat that comes and docks up next to these guys, and they're up all night talking to whoever's in that boat. | ||
| I don't know what the significance is there, but what I will say is this— These men ended up taking a different route than we took. | ||
| So we started with a large caravan of mostly Chinese, 60 to 70% Chinese. | ||
| Then there were Venezuelans sprinkled in there. | ||
| There were some Ecuadorians. | ||
| There's actually a couple from Ethiopia. | ||
| And then there was a somewhat large group from Afghanistan, maybe 15 to 20 people. | ||
| Then there were these Syrians. And somewhere along the way, you know, it's a large caravan, but it's not that large. | ||
| It was about 400 to 500 people, I want to say, right? | ||
| Well, and it's worth mentioning, too, for people listening, Once they found out you were American, all of a sudden they started hiding their faces. | ||
| They didn't want to be seen anymore. | ||
| They're trying to make it so that you can't film them. | ||
| Correct. Correct. And so that's right. | ||
| And so we all enter the jungle the next day. | ||
| And like I said, it's a large caravan, but it's not that large. | ||
| You start recognizing the different groups and the different faces that are in this caravan. | ||
| But the one group that I didn't see... | ||
| Was the Syrians. And I kept talking to my brother. | ||
| I was like, have you seen them? | ||
| And the reason why I was asked is because these men were hostile to us and I didn't want to encounter them. | ||
| I was like happy that I didn't see them anywhere. | ||
| And the entire time, I never saw these Syrian men taking the route that we took, even though we had the same starting point. | ||
| So then, you know, after two days of trekking through the jungle, we get to a refugee camp. | ||
| And the way that we got to this refugee camp, basically we got spit out on Highway 1. | ||
| That's the Panamanian, sorry, Pan-American highway that goes from Alaska all the way down to the very southern tip of Panama. | ||
| And the way we got to this was we popped out on Highway 1 and we walked south to north, right? | ||
| And we reached this refugee camp. | ||
| These men, I was at the refugee camp, they ended up coming north to south, meaning they took an entirely different route to get to that same camp that we were at. | ||
| So, you know, it's just another clue. | ||
| It shows that these special interest aliens, these guys from Syria, are taking a route that's totally detached for whatever reason. | ||
| Well, I try to work it out in my head, and I'm thinking, okay, the crew is pulling up some information there on the screen, and... | ||
| Homs or Homs Syria is well known as a Christian region of Syria, and apparently there's a bunch of revolutionary or freedom fighters there that I guess wanted to overthrow Assad, I think is what they showed on the screen there, guys, is what it said. | ||
| So I'm thinking, okay, well, maybe... | ||
| Maybe they did flee that area because it was devastated, and then maybe they didn't want to be on camera because they're afraid that somebody will identify them where they're at. | ||
| But what doesn't add up to me at that point is why would they be hostile towards you? | ||
| Why would they be hostile towards the American? | ||
| And then the coincidence of the fresh tattoos and the matching crucifixes. | ||
| I mean, it's all... And then why would they tell you that, too? | ||
| Like, maybe that was all part of a narrative that they were trying to build in order to gain entry. | ||
| I mean, there's so many questions there. | ||
| But, you know, don't worry. | ||
| I'm sure they'll get in and nobody will ever have to answer them. | ||
| Well, the point is, we don't know who these men are. | ||
| They could be anybody. And then the other point is that, okay, maybe these are, you know, God-fearing, God-worshipping men, right? | ||
| They just want to go to church on Sunday and they want to open up. | ||
| Okay, fine. But believe me, there are plenty of military-age men, not just from Syria, but from tons of special interest, you know, countries that are headed in here every single day. | ||
| So even if this group isn't anything... | ||
| I mean, you can speculate. | ||
| I've given you all the information in the audience, so do with it what you will. | ||
| We know for a fact, I mean, we can infer based off of this information that there are plenty of groups with sinister intent that must be coming in here probably on a daily basis. | ||
| Well, and I mean, how many groups would you say like this kind of just raised that suspicion, you know, just kind of raised that ire where you're like, something just feels off with this? | ||
| You know, different groups raise it in different ways. | ||
| Different groups raise it in different ways. Like, for example... | ||
| You get people from all different countries that kind of give you bad looks being the American with the camera, right? | ||
| But these guys were, like, this group I felt the most unsafe with for sure. | ||
| I mean, these guys I felt like I was going to get my throat slit. | ||
| You know, whereas the Venezuelans, and I'm not even saying that they're all bad people, right? | ||
| Whereas the Venezuelans, though, the ones that are nasty to you, I'm more worried, okay, maybe this person's giving me the kind of vibe where he might jump me, right? | ||
| But it's two totally different vibes. | ||
| And then the Chinese aren't like that at all. | ||
| The Chinese just kind of give you a nasty look, if at all, and then just keep their distance to you and don't go anywhere near you. | ||
| So it's just different, man. | ||
| Different cultures, different ways of handling the situation of the American with the camera. | ||
| Now, is all this footage available on your website? | ||
| Because, I mean, you have—again, this is Pulitzer Prize-winning stuff, Pulitzer Prize-winning work that you've captured here. | ||
| Is this all on muckraker.com? | ||
| The stuff that I've released, you guys can find it on my Twitter, which, granted, I've only released a small fraction of everything that I caught. | ||
| My brother and I are going to be releasing a documentary as soon as possible, working on putting it together and releasing it. | ||
| And it's going to be groundbreaking, man, because to the best of my knowledge— I don't believe that any journalist actually has taken the whole route. | ||
| I've seen people do bits and pieces of it very well, but I've never seen anybody actually string it together and go all the way from Quito to the United States border. | ||
| When we get to the next segment, I want to talk about one of the more compelling parts of your story where you got kidnapped by the cartel. | ||
| And just an incredible story where, and then your commitment to finalizing this product and this project, you went back and you had to recapture a lot of the footage because they destroyed it. | ||
| But, I mean, how easy is it, would you say? | ||
| I mean, I can go to Chicago or New York and I can hop on subways and get around with pretty much little difficulty. | ||
| Maybe you might hop on a wrong train or something. | ||
| I mean, how easy is it to get on this, what is essentially a public transit for illegal immigration? | ||
| How easy is this to navigate? | ||
| If you have the money, as long as your pocket's flush with cash, you will make it with no problem at all. | ||
| No problem at all. I can't express it. | ||
| I can't express that enough. It is the easiest thing in the world to do. | ||
| How many people do you think were on this just in the short time that you were on this caravan? | ||
| How many other people do you think essentially made the same track that you made? | ||
| It's hard to say because the caravan splits and forms different groups along the way, but we know the numbers right now. | ||
| It's like 10,000 people a day coming in man. Let's go with that number | ||
| So you would say you saw probably 10,000 different people on this easily and that's just one man's journey | ||
| Final segment with Anthony Rubin on the other side He's not gonna win a Pulitzer Prize for this, but he | ||
| probably should we'll be right back All right last segment here with Anthony Rubin at real muckraker | ||
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| Let me just ask you a generic question and then kind of get back into the weeds of it here. | ||
| How many miles, do you know how many miles you traveled overall on this journey? | ||
| Two thousand and something. | ||
| Two thousand? Probably more than two thousand, but that's directionally accurate. | ||
| Between two and three. Does that count you having to go back and hop on the train a second time? | ||
| No, that probably had an extra 500 or so. | ||
| So let's talk about this. | ||
| And I'll kind of just give a brief introduction of this and then you get into the details. | ||
| The first time you hop on, it's called the Beast Train? | ||
| The Beast Train, yeah. So that's the train that you guys have seen probably. | ||
| We've aired the footage on the show where they just load these trains up with people. | ||
| They head to the southern border. Thousands of these people, they just come across, come across, come across. | ||
| It's called the Beast Train. You actually took two rides on this. | ||
| And now the first ride you took, you were on the roof. | ||
| When you tried to cross the southern border, you got caught up by cartel members. | ||
| They smashed your equipment. | ||
| You lost all that footage. So you went back to take a second ride, get the footage again. | ||
| Both those experiences were different. | ||
| Let's lay into the details of that. | ||
| Absolutely. And before I do that, I need to just thank on air my brother Joshua Rubin, who was with me this entire time. | ||
| If it wasn't for him, I might have gotten killed. | ||
| I mean, I might have straight up disappeared. | ||
| We didn't really talk about the different dangerous situations you were in, but yeah, you took a risk. | ||
| Straight up. It's exponentially harder to disappear two people at once than one. | ||
| So I could have easily been disappeared if I didn't have my brother with me. | ||
| So Joshua Rubin, my best friend in the world, my brother, couldn't have done it without him. | ||
| But without further ado, to talk about what happened, we were... | ||
| So we cross into Mexico, and we were smuggled into Mexico by who I believe was the Sinaloa cartel. | ||
| And I say that because when we were in Guatemala, we met with Guatemalan authorities, and they | ||
| told us, the Ministry of the Interior, that's who we met with, and they told us that the | ||
| area that we were going to cross by Tecumseh, that's the last town in Guatemala before you | ||
| enter Mexico, the area that we crossed, they said that was controlled by Sinaloa cartel. | ||
| Now, I didn't confirm that, I didn't talk to my smugglers and find that out, but based | ||
| on that information, if you look at maps, the territorial control of these different | ||
| cartels, most likely Sinaloa, but that was the first thing we did. | ||
| We got smuggled into Mexico by Sinaloa. | ||
| Just take that for what is extremely dangerous. | ||
| I mean, sticking us in cars, these little cars with 10 people packed in them. | ||
| The group that was with us when we did that was a group of military men from Sierra Leone that were all headed to America. | ||
| So you just basically smashed soldier to soldier in these deals? | ||
| Straight up. Like a clown car situation. | ||
| Exactly. But you get in. Okay, so that's how you get into Mexico. | ||
| So that's how you get into Mexico. Then we find a massive caravan. | ||
| That's a little bit further north than Tapachula. | ||
| It's in Huixla. And we catch up with them, and they're all stopped. | ||
| Mexican authorities have stopped them. | ||
| They won't let them go any further north. | ||
| And I put up a video. | ||
| You guys should air it. Feel free to air it this segment or in the future. | ||
| They're all chanting for Biden. | ||
| I got them all chanting Biden at the top of their lungs. | ||
| The most insane thing I've ever seen. | ||
| Is that on your Twitter? | ||
| That's on my Twitter. Guys, try to find that as he's talking. | ||
| Yeah, you guys can find that. They're chanting for Biden. | ||
| Chanting for Biden. Straight up. | ||
| Thank God, you know, I lost all of my footage from this first caravan except for that clip. | ||
| Thank God that was the most important one. | ||
| That's a miracle. Yeah, thank God. | ||
| I don't know if you guys want to play the sound. | ||
| Yeah, there it is right there. It's a short clip, guys. | ||
| Go ahead. This is on his Twitter. | ||
| Well, looks like we're having an issue. | ||
| Why don't you just go ahead? It's all right. | ||
| It's all right. And you can see this caravan carries a cross. | ||
| Contention es mi muerte, right? | ||
| Like, that you being content is his death. | ||
| Like, somehow you're responsible for that by not opening up your border, right? | ||
| us. But you know, there it is again if they're gonna play with sound. | ||
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Now, how does this happen? | |
| How is it they're chanting Biden? | ||
| Yeah, you know, I had been talking to them about Biden before, and they probably figured that's what I wanted to hear. | ||
| There was a lot of things that they said before this. | ||
| They were all screaming that they were from Honduras. | ||
| They were saying that they were going to America, and then this guy just starts chanting Biden. | ||
| So they knew it was Biden that made this possible as far as, you know, his presidency. | ||
| If it wasn't for the Biden presidency, they know this trip isn't happening. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure. You ask them, you know, what's your opinion between Trump and Biden? | ||
| This is going to be a whole big part of our documentary because I ask that question a ton. | ||
| And all of them, they say that they, you ask them, hey, so what do you think about Trump? | ||
| They'll go, oh, no, no, no, we don't like Trump. | ||
| Because they know that the whole reason this trip is even possible and all the free handouts and everything is because Joe Biden got back in. | ||
| But since we're short on time, so your first trip on the beast train and you get to the southern border and this is where you get the cartel caps, you smashes your equipment, you have to go back again. | ||
| That's correct. So long story short, that was the first caravan that we embedded with. | ||
| I rode the train of death on the top of it the first time, which is an important thing to mention because the second time I rode in the inside of it, again, with my brother as well the whole time. | ||
| So anyway, right on the top of the train the first time. | ||
| Then eventually we're going to cross back into the United States, and we're going to cross right across from Elon Musk's SpaceX in Boca Chica, Texas. | ||
| And for multiple reasons, that's why he chose that. | ||
| Long story short, we're kidnapped by the Gulf Cartel. | ||
| They blindfold us. They tie up our hands. | ||
| Men with assault rifles and pistols. | ||
| One of them made kind of a veiled death threat to me. | ||
| How scared for your life are you at this point? | ||
| I was, there was a part of me that was thinking that we might have a bullpen in our head for sure. | ||
| Worse during the whole trip? | ||
| Was that the worst, was that the scariest part of the trip? | ||
| It was either that or being smuggled into Mexico by Sinaloa. | ||
| But Mexico as a whole was, I mean, that country is sketchy by far. | ||
| It was sketchier than the Darien Gap. | ||
| I'd rather be in the jungle. That country is controlled, man, by serious criminal elements. | ||
| And these are criminal elements, you know, to bring it back to the kidnapping, I was kidnapped by the Gulf Cartel, okay? | ||
| There are many different cartel groups that control our border in different areas of the border. | ||
| Well, I mean, if they would have found drugs on you, they probably would have killed you. | ||
| Or a weapon. They were searching us for weapons. | ||
| And they were searching us for wires. They thought that we were military or intelligence or something. | ||
| They had no, you know? But they let us go. | ||
| Thank God. But, you know, the point there, and, you know, whenever I tell the story and I tell the long version of it, whenever anybody asks me to do it, I always say at the end, I go, listen, this is not about me. | ||
| This isn't some big self-aggrandizing story about how cool or brave I am that I got kidnapped. | ||
| As a matter of fact, I find it to be very emasculating, probably how you feel about prison. | ||
| I mean, it's not like a cool thing to have another group of men take you against your will. | ||
| Yeah, to be bound and hauled around, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not like proud of that at all, right? | ||
| But the point that I always make is that there are literally, I mean, these men are narco-terrorists. | ||
| You look at what some of the terrorist videos that these people put out, it's meant to intimidate other groups, of them straight up chopping off an enemy cartel member's head. | ||
| Well, it was only a couple months ago where those Americans got killed by the golf cartels. | ||
| It's probably because they were trying to run drugs in their territory and it went bad. | ||
| Straight up, straight up. And so my point in saying that is what? | ||
| I'm not trying to make this about me. | ||
| My point is that I've experienced this firsthand. | ||
| You literally have, Literal terrorists that are controlling our southern border. | ||
| Well, and that's what it is. Who controls the U.S.-Mexico border? | ||
| The terrorists control it more so than the American people even have a say or a right to try to stop it. | ||
| Correct. So I said I had a run-in with Sinaloa on the train. | ||
| Not on the train. When we got smuggled into Mexico. | ||
| When we got loaded onto the train the first time, there were men that straight up... | ||
| You ever seen the Batman that was in the early 2000s? | ||
| You know, the League of Shadows guys that trained Batman? | ||
| These guys literally looked like they were from the Batman movie. | ||
| They were members of the League of Shadows. | ||
| I mean, they were wearing body armor. | ||
| They had black face coverings, like a ninja, basically, with only their eyes showing. | ||
| They had a freaking sword tucked in their back behind their body armor, and they were all carrying either an AR-15 or a shotgun. | ||
| So these are well-funded, well-organized groups. | ||
| But now you go back into Mexico to take the train ride for a second time. | ||
| That's correct. This time you're in the train. | ||
| Yeah, so we go back into Mexico. | ||
| This time we get on the train again, and it's a whole different situation. | ||
| We're on the train. We get on, and it's pouring rain out. | ||
| I don't really even see anybody boarding the train. | ||
| And then I just see this train out in the distance through the fog. | ||
| And we go running up to it, and we see these groups that are kind of boarding. | ||
| And we get a spot not on the top of the train, but kind of inside of a boxcar. | ||
| And eventually this thing starts running. | ||
| It starts going, and they actually lock the doors from the outside, and you realize very quickly, you're like, wow, this can go wrong instantly. | ||
| I don't know who's... The next time they open up that door, there might be armed men facing me. | ||
| But as soon as they did open up that door... | ||
| A little while later, I went with my brother, even though it was pouring rain. | ||
| There's a picture right there. That was it at night. | ||
| I took that with my phone. I mean, you can imagine how sketchy that is. | ||
| And you're locked in there with these people. | ||
| And you got no idea. | ||
| So, you know, but ultimately we, I mean, I know we're short on time here. | ||
| Ultimately, we made it out. | ||
| And, you know, that was that actually, the train ended up We're good to go. | ||
| There's so much more to discuss, folks, and I learned a little bit more during the breaks. | ||
| Like, you'd think, I mean, Border Patrol obviously knows this is going on. | ||
| I wonder if SpaceX knows the activity that's going on right outside of its property there. | ||
| But I'm telling you, such compelling work here from Anthony Rubin at RealMuckRaker on Twitter, MuckRaker.com. | ||
| You will be on with Alex Jones tomorrow. | ||
| And hopefully you can expose more about this experience. | ||
| But this is just incredible work, man. | ||
| And a lot of this is exclusive, so we thank you for sharing it with us today. | ||
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