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How are you, Tom? I'm very, very excited today. | |
Obviously, there have been some very big stories broken in the past 24 hours. | ||
It remains to be seen whether or not Vice President Mike Pence will do the right thing today. | ||
But it's certainly been uplifting to see the American people unified almost entirely behind one message for the first time since November 3rd. | ||
Everybody agrees, Mike Pence, it's time to do your job. | ||
Yeah, absolutely. And it sounds like people are also unifying around the hatred, the disdain that people are feeling for the COVID stimulus package and the way it sends our money out to foreign powers at a rate of three to four times as much as it's actually coming here. | ||
So there's a lot of unity these days, isn't there? | ||
Just in time for it all to come crashing down, whatever comes early January. | ||
But of course you are talking about this exclusive from National File White House memo details how the Pence card, of course play on the Trump card, can save Trump's presidency on December 23rd today. | ||
So we'll get into that as well. | ||
Can you give us a little teaser as to what this entails? | ||
Well, for those who have been watching InfoWars for the past week or so, you probably know quite a bit about it. | ||
But what's big is that the White House is taking this seriously enough to where a lot | ||
of the people in the White House who are closest to Trump and the biggest allies of Trump who | ||
actually want to see this election resolved and not just wait four years, which seems | ||
to be what the majority of the White House wants to do. | ||
These people have been listening to the arguments made on InfoWars, have been listening to the | ||
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been discussed and gave it to the president. | ||
My understanding is it likely was on his desk late last night or early this morning. | ||
So everything that you've been hearing about on InfoWars, complete Veritas on the president's | ||
desk. | ||
Now we just have to wait for Mike Pence to act. | ||
It really is amazing. | ||
I've been noticing it just today. | ||
Of course, Alex Jones sat in with me for American Journal this morning, and it's like stuff we were talking about this morning, suddenly it's all over Twitter. | ||
Suddenly there's articles being written about it. | ||
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It is the War Room. Today is the 23rd of December. | ||
I guess that's Christmas Eve Eve here. | ||
Muggy day in Austin, Texas. | ||
Not muggy, just cloudy and miserable, I suppose. | ||
I'll be here for the next hour. | ||
This is Harrison Smith and then Tom Papert, my co-host for this hour, will continue with his great coverage here on the War Room. | ||
The biggest story that just broke mere minutes ago, Donald Trump has vetoed the defense bill, the NDAA, setting up a possible override vote. | ||
And we've seen that senators, Republican and Democrat senators, have vowed to come back to get in session and to override this veto. | ||
But this is brand new breaking news, like I said, just mere minutes ago. | ||
Tom Papper, do you have any further information on what this might entail? | ||
File. President Trump has vetoed it. | ||
He called it disgraceful. | ||
He said, I will not approve this bill, which would put the interests of the Washington, D.C. establishment over those of the American people. | ||
So, of course, this is the NDAA, which those, again, who've been watching InfoWars for years, remember how pork-filled this thing every single year. | ||
In 2012, They just happened to slip in some language that allowed the indefinite detention of American citizens without a jury trial and also legalized the extrajudicial murder of American citizens with absolutely no cause, rhyme or reason. | ||
They can just kill you now. That was in the 2012 NDAA. The Republicans went along with it despite thinking that it was egregious and Barack Hussein Obama signed it. | ||
We now have a president who has the guts To say no to this type of thing, to immediately stop it. | ||
Now, of course, is going to be the pivotal moment, I think, Harrison, where we will see if Mitch McConnell and all of the Senate Republicans are going to betray Trump. | ||
That will be a big foretelling perhaps of what's going to happen on January 6th. | ||
And these people have to realize at some point, maybe they're just counting on Dominion, Harrison, because the American people are never going to donate to the Republican Party again after this. | ||
They're never going to donate to Mitch McConnell. | ||
They're not going to show up and vote for you. | ||
But I don't know. Maybe Mitch just thinks that Dominion machines will keep him in office till he dies. | ||
Yeah, maybe that's the only way that he could remain in office. | ||
As you were pointing out in the last segment, they just want to get back to normal. | ||
The Republicans want Trump gone just as much as the Democrats seem to because he exposes how easy it is to win. | ||
I mean, this really is the truth. | ||
They... The Republicans rely on this, like, well, we tried our best, but we just couldn't do it, sort of mentality to constantly fail, constantly lose, and lose with grace. | ||
It's kind of confusing at this point, because it's like, this is a... | ||
As the AP reports, I think it was $730 billion bill for military. | ||
Yeah, $740 billion in military programs and construction. | ||
There was another post saying, you know, this 5,500-page bill talking about the NDAA. And I was confused for a moment because I thought they were talking about the COVID relief bill. | ||
It's like, how many 5,000-plus-page bills do We're good to go. | ||
So we were worried about that, and I think I may have originally reported it as actually being embedded in the COVID relief. | ||
But again, I'm just mixing up my $700 billion bills here. | ||
Don't feel bad because of this, because they're playing such little linguistic games here. | ||
So everybody was very, very upset. | ||
That all of this foreign spending was happening as part of this COVID bill. | ||
And then the Twitterati, the Fact Check Mafia came out and they said, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
See, the COVID relief bill is only $900 billion and it's part of a $2.3 billion bill. | ||
And it's in the $2.3 billion bill where we're giving billions and billions, or trillion, I'm sorry. | ||
You can't even keep it straight. | ||
But again, the idea being that these are separate bills in the same package. | ||
That somehow makes what you're saying non-factual. | ||
I mean, it's a linguistic game. | ||
It's a distinction without a difference to try to say fact-check false when we point out how disgusting this thing is. | ||
Yeah, it's all games, right? | ||
And then, of course, Trump comes out, makes this very powerful message saying, no, I'm demanding $2,000 for American citizens, as he's been saying since October, by the way. | ||
And then you have people like AOC and Ilhan Omar, like, we're putting forward this bill. | ||
And then I go on other websites and it's like, AOC and Ilhan Omar, stand up to Trump with this bill. | ||
It's like, what the hell is going on? | ||
They were working with Trump. | ||
Yeah, they... I think? | ||
Well, so Harrison, and if you want to know the layer of how America is getting screwed here, we're working on an article right now. | ||
It should be up by time the end of this hour. | ||
I would have certainly assumed probably the next 10 minutes. | ||
And Nancy Pelosi is actually sneaking some language into this bill that AOC and the squad are coming up with, into this amendment, I should say, We're good to go. | ||
And so they're then going to somehow blame this on Trump as well. | ||
I mean, this is all a very thinly veiled effort to try to tar this guy in the last days of his first term. | ||
And especially, I imagine, they're trying to do anything they can, I should say, to keep his millions of supporters from showing up in D.C. on January 6th. | ||
Yeah, well, it reminds me of the COVID vaccine bill, where it's almost like they algorithmically figured out how little can we give the American people without causing intense backlash. | ||
And I think maybe their algorithm was a little bit off and 600 was a little bit low. | ||
Maybe if they'd bumped that up to 1,000, you wouldn't see quite the pushback that you're having now. | ||
But to be honest with you, there's a little bit of like a white pill in there, a little bit of a... | ||
Of some unity that we're actually finding with people on the far left who were all looking around and going, wait, we're giving our money to foreign powers while our people starve? | ||
This is wrong. | ||
And so it's, you know, it's kind of weird. | ||
Also kind of nice being able to look across at the socialists and go, and we both know this is wrong, right? | ||
So I don't know. Is that a white pill, Tom? | ||
Or is that just insanity? | ||
More insanity. I think it's a strange mark of our times, and it's a good thing. | ||
I do think it's a white pill, that we now have people on the far left, people on the far right, and just normal people, people who are like, what am I going to do with $600? | ||
That's not even my car payment. | ||
Come on. And so they are now all coming together right now, Christmas, the day before the day before Christmas, which is when they always sneak this horrible stuff in, and America is pissed. | ||
And it's from left, right, and center. | ||
I think that this is perhaps a watershed moment where the people in this country are realizing that it doesn't fundamentally matter if it's an R or a D or an I from BT. None of these things matter. | ||
The people in Congress do not represent you. | ||
They probably hate you. | ||
They think that your misery this past year Ten months is hilarious. | ||
And it's a good opportunity, isn't it, to go, hey, all the things you hate about this coronavirus package, the giving away of American money, the subverting of America's interests in favor of foreign powers, well, that's what the TPP is. | ||
That's what the Paris Accord is. | ||
I mean, this is almost like a It could be a teaching moment for some of these socialists to go, hey, we agree with you. | ||
It's not good that this is happening. | ||
Now let's look at all of these other things that you support and find out if this is really where we want to go. | ||
I mean, the Paris Climate Accord is the perfect example. | ||
You don't want American money going to foreign powers? | ||
Then don't go in the Paris Accord. | ||
This seems obvious to me. | ||
Maybe it's a little teaching moment, Tom. | ||
I think you may be right about that. | ||
Especially the news came out today or this week. | ||
The UN has done their annual, you know, who's polluting the most report. | ||
Under Trump, our country has become so clean and so green and so energy efficient, they don't even want us to join the Paris Climate Accord anymore. | ||
They say that we're good, that we're great. | ||
That's amazing. Yeah, and I've heard Trump say that, but that's great to hear the U.N. approve that message. | ||
Speaking of government waste, it is that time of year. | ||
We have Rand Paul's Festivus 2020, the year in waste and where our money has gone. | ||
It's truly mind-boggling. | ||
I'd love to get into that this hour. | ||
I want to get in more into what happens now with this NDAA. And then, of course, today's the deadline for the Pence maneuver. | ||
Let's see where we are with that. | ||
We'll be right back. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
It is the War Room. My name is Harrison Smith. | ||
Tom Pappert is actually the host today. | ||
It's a little bit awkward. I'm the guest here, but since I'm in studio, I guess I got to bring us in each time. | ||
But I want to follow your lead, Tom. | ||
Where do you want to go in this next segment? | ||
Well, you know, Harrison, it's going to be very interesting. | ||
I mean, we're almost entering uncharted territory with this NDAA veto. | ||
I don't know if that's ever happened before in American history, frankly, because what they tried, you know, the Republicans said a lot of things and made a lot of noises in 2012 about how could they block this from going to the president, being Obama back then. | ||
And the consensus in the right-wing media was, no, you can't do that. | ||
You have to pay the troops. | ||
I mean, if I were one of our wonderful Armed Forces members, I wouldn't want to be paid if it means that our nation's enemies are going to get God knows how much money, Trump can't enforce the Constitution, and maybe you'll get $600 if you're lucky. | ||
I mean, I would not want to be paid. | ||
So this is very significant. | ||
And if they do not come back and override his veto or remedy the legislation so it does something | ||
about big tech and isn't just a giant handout to China, that would be huge. | ||
Now, if they veto him, if then again, we now have once and for all | ||
the entire Republican establishment, meaning every elected official | ||
stabbing our president in the back. | ||
And in a way, I don't know what could be a better way to end this year where we've had spineless weak Republicans | ||
putting us in lockdown, making us wear masks, abandoning the president, | ||
and now abandoning the American people and abandoning, I guess, everything in America. | ||
abandoning the country as a whole to stab the president in the back to get their bloated defense spending bill so we can give. | ||
I think one of the most bizarre things that I found in that bill We're going to give the Philippines like $15 million so they can repair one Qatar patrol boat. | ||
I'm not making this stuff up. | ||
Oh my god. Yeah, truth is stranger than fiction. | ||
Just looking at this AP story, they actually have a pretty great chart here. | ||
Pretty amazing. Trump has only vetoed Seven bills his entire time in office. | ||
Seven bills. | ||
Meanwhile, compare that to somebody like Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who vetoed 635 in his time in office. | ||
But as you point out, it is sort of the perfect encapsulation of this year where we're being told by the Republicans, hold the line. | ||
You've got to vote for Republicans. | ||
It doesn't matter if Trump's president. | ||
We've got to vote for Republicans. | ||
Oh, by the way, we're going to now convene a new session today. | ||
Not to help you, but to override Trump's veto to get more money into the military-industrial complex. | ||
And this is something that Trump has called out. | ||
He's called out the military-industrial complex. | ||
He says those great companies like Lockheed Martin really love this bill. | ||
And now he's sort of put his money where his mouth is and is showing us it's not all talk. | ||
He's actually trying to prevent the military-industrial complex with just running roughshod with basically our money in a blank checkbook. | ||
That's exactly right. And by the way, what a perfect time for Rand Paul's Festivus as we are currently debating not one, not two, not three, but I think four total separate pieces of legislation here in the final days before Christmas. | ||
I can only imagine what Rand Paul is finding this year, being that we've had a year of record, unprecedented, unbelievable, unimaginable spending from the federal government with COVID as an excuse. | ||
Hey, say what you want about TPUSA, but I learned more about how the government works from those strippers shooting cash at children than a year's worth of social studies courses. | ||
That's literally what, I mean, that's what I'm picturing. | ||
It's like you picture what the government is and it's just tannins of cash being fired indiscriminately at everybody except for the American people who actually desperately need it right. | ||
And look, I don't let, you know, Rand Paul voted against, you know, he was one of the six people that voted against this COVID bill, the other hundreds and hundreds of billion dollar bill. | ||
And, you know, typically you want to keep spending as low as possible, but it feels like there is a situation now where it's the government's fault that our economy is failing. | ||
It's the government who's made restaurants close down and small businesses close down. | ||
To me, it only seems right that they have to shoulder some of that responsibility. | ||
But of course, When it comes down to it, it's us shouldering that responsibility. | ||
So the theme of the show yesterday and maybe of just our life is damned if you do, damned if you don't. | ||
I'd say that's exactly right, Harrison. | ||
And there's something, I mean, very peculiar happening right now. | ||
I wasn't necessarily the biggest fan of the first bill, but at the same time, I wasn't going to turn down the opportunity to get a gun. | ||
But now, when it's $600 and we look at what's happened the past year, I mean, the very companies that are being bailed out by this bill, because that's what it is. | ||
It's a bailout. | ||
They can call it whatever they want, but it's the companies that have been thriving for | ||
the past year. | ||
And meanwhile, of course, we go into this NDAA and it's just shoveling money to companies | ||
that again have been thriving this last year. | ||
So then you look at, we have an economy right now where every day I see five more local | ||
restaurants have shut down, a local store shuts down. | ||
There is nothing left except corporate America. | ||
And then they offer us a $600 payoff and $300 a week in unemployment to just look the other way while Facebook posts record billion-dollar profits, while Amazon does the same thing, while all of these big tech giants that are ripping us a new one every single day, training us to think in different ways, Harrison. | ||
I mean, ever since National File was purged from Facebook, our numbers have been off the charts because I'm no longer trying to meet Facebook's speech guides. | ||
But this is what they do to us, and we see the government trying to give them more handouts and tell the American people again, $600, take it or leave it. | ||
Yeah, absolutely. And what we're seeing here now on the screen, by the way, if you're a television viewer or watching on BandaiVideoInfowars.com, we're seeing a live shot, I believe, of Donald Trump having just touched down in Florida. | ||
Melania looking beautiful in some leather thigh-high, high heels. | ||
What a first lady we have. | ||
So he's now moved to Florida for the Christmas holidays. | ||
Perhaps more going on behind the scenes than we're aware of. | ||
I really want to get into this The Pence card, the Pence maneuver, that of course you explain on National File with the headline exclusive White House memo details how Pence card can save Trump presidency on December 23rd. | ||
Are we too late? I mean, the day's almost over. | ||
Did he play the card, Tom? | ||
Well, Mike Pence has until 1159 p.m. | ||
East Coast time tonight to do this. | ||
And President Trump leaving now, I mean, I know they've been having meetings with legislators from across the country. | ||
I do know for a fact that the president received this memo yesterday. | ||
It was created by Trump's allies in the White House. | ||
But essentially, what Mike Pence needs to do legally here, I mean, this isn't an option, first of all. | ||
Let me just say that. This isn't like, oh, here's a really cool thing Pence can do if he loves America. | ||
No, if Pence wants to follow the law, then what he needs to do before midnight tonight is to tell the six contested states that have smattering evidence of widespread voter fraud that changed the election that the Electoral College certificates, their slates, whatever you want to call them, sent by these | ||
states, secretaries of state, are not legal. | ||
They are not legal because, for example, in Georgia, we have video of ballots stuffing | ||
at two in the morning. | ||
We have, again in Georgia, we have a Senate report saying that the election was stolen. | ||
In Arizona, the Maricopa County won't even give up their Dominion machine so we can investigate | ||
whether it was stolen. | ||
So Pence needs to tell these six states that the certificates he received are unlawful, | ||
and they have until January 6th to remedy this. | ||
And then they have two ways to remedy it, basically. | ||
They can either assign the delegates in the state legislatures, as the Constitution demands, | ||
by the way, or, and I would love to see them try to do this. | ||
They can organize a second election before January 6th. | ||
But again, this all falls on Pence's shoulders. | ||
This is the future of our country. | ||
This is the future of Trump's presidency. | ||
This is the future of law and order. | ||
And Pence has what? I guess six hours, eight hours, something like that. | ||
We'll see if he's a man or not, I Oh my God, totally down to the wire. | ||
It's not just the future of our country or Trump's presidency. | ||
It's literally the future of the world. | ||
I mean, what's happening today decides where we're going to be a hundred years from now or a thousand years from now in the long view. | ||
It's incredible. Harrison Smith sitting in for Owen. | ||
Well, Harrison Smith joining Tom Papert, who's sitting in for Owen Shore, who was filling in for Alex Jones, who was on American Journal with me. | ||
It's musical chairs. | ||
It's a lot of fun. So I'm here. | ||
I'm looking at this Festivus list. | ||
And if you don't know, of course, from the show Seinfeld, there was the Festivus airing of the grievances. | ||
It was a tradition in this made-up holiday. | ||
Rand Paul has taken this and run with it. | ||
Every year he comes out with the Festivus report. | ||
That is a list of grievances against the government as to where they spend our money. | ||
And there's an amazing double standard, isn't there, Tom? | ||
It's like, you know, you go to file your taxes. | ||
If you don't have one receipt that you're making a claim for, they're going to come down on you like a bag of hammers, right? | ||
They're going to crush you for everything you're worth. | ||
And you go to the FBI and you're like, hey, where's that laptop full of evidence that you have that's vitally important for national security? | ||
And they're like, it's gone. We lost it, and it's over. | ||
Stop asking questions. | ||
That is about our government's response. I mean, and they have a history of this. | ||
I mean, the conspiracy theorists, quote unquote, but they're correct, like to point out that in the year 2000, 2001, the Pentagon just, like, they admitted, hey, we don't know how we spent this money. | ||
We know we spent tons and tons of money. | ||
We just can't account for it. | ||
We have really bad bookkeeping. | ||
And that's our entire government. | ||
And you just ask the government. | ||
I mean, I guess. I don't know how this happens because I'm not one of these people. | ||
But I suppose if you live in and around D.C. and you are like a transgendered African-American with Indian heritage and First Nations father, then you just go ask somebody in the government for free money so you can launch an art school or something. | ||
And they just. Just give it to you. | ||
I don't understand. I mean, we all remember Raz, Warlord Raz, the almighty, I guess he's now in exile, but ruler in exile of Chaz on the west coast of what was formerly America. | ||
And he got, I think it was $70,000 from the city of Seattle for the purposes of starting like a dance studio or something. | ||
So this is a great grift, I guess, if you know the magic words and have the right background, let's say. | ||
You can just get free money from Uncle Sam. | ||
You don't have to worry about the $600. | ||
You can get $70,000. Yeah, no, literally. | ||
I mean, you know, I've read stories about guys who work for the government, and they replaced computer monitors, so they just took their old monitor home, being like, oh, well, we got new ones. | ||
I'll take this one home. Two years in jail for stealing a computer monitor. | ||
Meanwhile, literally billions of dollars just up and vanishes, just is gone, and you're not even allowed to ask questions about it. | ||
It's utterly absurd, but yes. | ||
God forbid you hide a dime from the government. | ||
Meanwhile, let me identify some of the best entries of this Festivus list from Rand Paul. | ||
One thing I noticed, have you had a chance to look at this list yet, Tom? | ||
It just came out today. I have not. | ||
I'm very excited to hear about this for the first time. | ||
It's very entertaining reading. | ||
One thing that you'll notice over and over again, they really want us to eat bugs, Tom. | ||
They're desperate to make us eat bugs. | ||
Here's the first entry under healthcare. | ||
It says they spent over a million dollars, $1.3 million, to study if Americans will eat ground-up bugs. | ||
Which is great, which is wonderful. | ||
They also used cancer research money to create a smart toilet to the tune of $7 million, | ||
which hey, if I could use a $7 million toilet, I'm happy. | ||
They also chose to give cigarettes to adolescent kids because on top of wasteful spending, | ||
you also want to do things that are nonsensical and possibly dangerous. | ||
They tested to see if hot tubbing could lower stress. | ||
They spent $2 million on that, which I think just means they hung out in a hot tub. | ||
I mean, what else are you going to do to test that? | ||
Well, you had to have a control group, I suppose, who did not get to hang out in the hot tub. | ||
Maybe after the experiment, they got to take a dip. | ||
Hey, maybe so. | ||
I think I'm gonna... Hey, are you just lounging around? | ||
Are you being lazy? No, no. I'm testing whether playing video games lowers my stress level, and I'm... | ||
Just not doing it for $2 million. | ||
They also, another kind of along the same line, they studied the prevalence of party drug use at NYC clubs and raves to the tune of $1.5 million. | ||
It's like, oh, is that what you were doing, Senator, in the back room of the club? | ||
It was a scientific endeavor, was it? | ||
For that much money, I think that they were providing the drugs. | ||
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Yeah. Perhaps so. | |
But some of these numbers are just staggering. | ||
$8.6 billion spent in Afghanistan on counter-narcotics efforts. | ||
$8.6 billion. | ||
In Afghanistan, where we've had soldiers guarding poppy fields since, Harrison, you and I were in, like, what, grade school? | ||
Yes, exactly. | ||
And, of course, they figure out, hey, it turns out they go to New York City clubs and raves. | ||
So, hey, it all comes back in a loop. | ||
Here you go. $37 million, $37.5 million, to helping to deal with truant Filipino youth. | ||
Okay, I guess. | ||
You know, you... Duterte, I don't know if we can do that one for you. | ||
Like, what is this? What is a delinquent? | ||
Why do we not have delinquents in America anymore? | ||
Like, that's what really puzzles me whenever we do this stuff for other countries. | ||
It's like, wait, did we take care of every single kid dropping out of school in the United States when I wasn't paying attention? | ||
Because if so, great. Then we can focus on the Philippines. | ||
But if we've got kids playing hooky, that seems premature. | ||
Yeah, no, zero unexcused absences this whole year, Tom. | ||
It's really incredible. Even in COVID, it's amazing. | ||
Yeah, it's really amazing. | ||
Here you go. They spent five years monitoring elections in Zimbabwe to the tune of $10 million. | ||
So, hey, at least the Zimbabwe elections might be somewhat credible, unlike ours here. | ||
We could use $10 million, I think. | ||
Oh, and it's one of our old favorites, one of the old classics. | ||
I'm sure the War Room has the video queued up and ready to go, except it's a different animal this time. | ||
Instead of spending millions of dollars watching a shrimp run on a treadmill, they have spent $1.5 million with lizards walking on a treadmill. | ||
So they walked lizards on treadmills. | ||
I'll walk a lizard on a treadmill for free, man. | ||
You don't need to pay me $1.5 million to do something that fun. | ||
Well, you know, Harrison, they're doing great things for the war room here because I know that Shrimpzilla has been getting tired. | ||
You know, he's been working for like five years straight without a single day off. | ||
So now if we have like, you know, a myriad of aquatic... | ||
And reptilian beings who can operate this thing. | ||
I mean, you guys can broadcast, like, you can even turn this into a nine-hour show. | ||
It'll be great. We'll have a whole menagerie. | ||
It'll be great. Oh, here it is. | ||
Here's some of the scientific testing going on. | ||
These guys are raking in the cash. | ||
But, you know, I mentioned before... | ||
Yeah, Lizardzilla this time. | ||
I mentioned that they spent over $1.3 billion studying to see if Americans will eat ground-up bugs. | ||
Well, they're also subsidizing an insect ranching company for $1.3 million. | ||
And if I go down here, they've also prepared bugs for you to eat with DARPA. To the tune of $3 million. | ||
So, I mean, they're very... | ||
The American government, maybe it doesn't care about kids getting to school on time. | ||
Maybe it's not getting you that money you need since they shut down your business. | ||
But by God, they're going to have you eating bugs by the end of the year. | ||
At least the end of the decade, if not sooner. | ||
Well, yeah, and it is. That's so interesting, Harrison, and it makes you wonder. | ||
I mean, we know that they legalized propaganda a few years ago, but I don't think anybody assumed that it was going to be to make us eat the bugs because we've, of course, seen in the last roughly year and a half, two years, we've seen this proliferation of eat the bugs articles. | ||
I mean, I was reading one how in Mexico they eat grasshoppers and they fry them and they're delicious, and shouldn't we do that here in America? | ||
And it's like, no, no, no, we shouldn't eat crickets and grasshoppers and roly-polies and whatever the hell else. | ||
Like, what is the matter with you people? | ||
We've gotten past this. | ||
The only thing I can think is that this must be coming down on high from China, where, of course, when the Cultural Revolution made half the peasantry starve to death, the other half subsisted on bugs. | ||
Ugh, God, I do not want to be watching this right now. | ||
It's just nasty. | ||
And then they're like, well, why not? | ||
What's the problem? It's just like, the answer's no, man. | ||
I'm not eating bugs. You're not making me eat bugs. | ||
You're not going to trick me or propagandize me into eating bugs. | ||
Unless they're crawfish, which are kind of bug-like, but also delicious. | ||
So, there's that. | ||
But no. Shellfish does not count. | ||
We've evolved past this, Harrison. | ||
We're not living in the caves anymore. | ||
We're not like, you know, fire, stick, bug, fire, warm bug. | ||
We have evolved. | ||
We have grown. We have mastered the culinary arts. | ||
We're not eating bugs. Even cavemen ate mammoth meat, didn't they? | ||
Weren't they killing aurochs and, you know, saber-toothed tigers and non on that meat? | ||
You bring a caveman nowadays, they see you eating bugs and they're like, what the hell are you doing? | ||
It's insane. It's insane. | ||
We'll read some more. | ||
I mean, it doesn't stop, folks. | ||
We're about halfway through this, just the list of the funniest stuff, and we'll get back to the Festivus list from Rand Paul on the other side. | ||
Harrison Smith, Tom Papert, it's The War Room. | ||
Stay with us, folks. All right, welcome back, folks. | ||
We're still in the first hour of The War Room, but it's the last segment. | ||
I'll be here before I vacate the premises and leave it all up to Emperor Papertine, Tom Papert of The National File, to bring us home and finish out the show today. | ||
I will be... We're good to go. | ||
I think that's where it is. Puts QR codes around the school building, allowing students to report their teachers for racism. | ||
So that's something we could spend a whole thing talking about. | ||
But we also have this from 30 minutes ago. | ||
Fulton County, Georgia... | ||
Voter Georgia, voter GA, filed an emergency lawsuit in Superior Court over the State Farm Arena counters illegally scanning thousands of questionable ballots on the night of November 3rd, corresponding with 100,000 votes spiked that turned the election for Joe Biden. | ||
So more challenges are coming up, more problems being exposed with the vote on November 3rd, no matter how much Big Tech and everybody else tries to Tries to censor it. | ||
There is stuff going on. But of course, the big story of today that just broke minutes before the show began, Donald Trump vetoing the NDAA. And that sort of ties into what we're talking about this last segment and this one, which is the wasteful spending, detailed, enumerated out By Rand Paul in his Festivus list here. | ||
And it's really where you get to the military section, which is where the NDAA is primarily focused. | ||
That $740 billion is primarily focused. | ||
When you get to the military section in this list is where the numbers really explode. | ||
And here's the deal, Tom. | ||
Sometimes investments don't work out. | ||
Sometimes you spend some money and you don't get what you thought you were going to get in return. | ||
If I gave you $24 billion $24 billion. | ||
Wouldn't you give me something back? | ||
Wouldn't I receive just something for an astronomical, for a mind-boggling amount of money? | ||
Like $24 billion? | ||
What would you do with $24 billion, Tom? | ||
What would I do with 24? | ||
Well, first of all, Harrison, I don't think you'd ever see me again. | ||
But I would give you something. | ||
Hey, here's a phone. | ||
Take this. I'll give you anything. | ||
Hey, you want my left shoe? | ||
You can have that real quick. | ||
I'm out of here. You know what? | ||
And we would have gotten more with your left shoe than apparently we got with the military spending $24 billion dollars. | ||
Decades trying to unsuccessfully replace the Bradley tank. | ||
So we got these Bradley tanks. | ||
We give this company $24 billion. | ||
Multiple companies. God knows how many people. | ||
$24 billion. | ||
And we get nothing. Ah, sorry, we tried. | ||
Ah, we got nothing. | ||
Sorry. Here's a shoe. | ||
I mean, that would have been great if we'd gotten a shoe for it. | ||
Here's a shoe. My left loafer. | ||
Well, and that's one of these things that, I mean, it's just so egregious because you listen to these military experts and they say, look, our last real war was, what, the 50s? | ||
You know, we don't have these big one army here, one army here conflicts anymore. | ||
It's always, you know, we're in the deserts of Iraq. | ||
We're in the mountains of Afghanistan. | ||
We don't really operate in theaters anymore that require or even make tanks a possibility. | ||
I mean, Desert Storm was one with helicopters. | ||
So why are we spending anything on tanks? | ||
We should be going in other directions, light vehicles that we can move fast in desert environments. | ||
But no, that would not be our government spending our money wisely. | ||
$24 billion. You know, when... | ||
What's his name? | ||
George Soros. When George Soros spent $22 billion, when he poured... | ||
You know, there's all these stories. | ||
George Soros donates $22 billion to his activist groups in America. | ||
I put together a list of 22... | ||
What you could buy with $22 billion. | ||
And no joke, it was like... | ||
It was like you could buy every yacht afloat. | ||
You could buy every castle available for sale in Europe. | ||
You could buy... These are in addition to each other, not just like you could buy this or this. | ||
It was like every castle in Europe, you could buy every space shuttle America's ever used. | ||
I mean, it's just these numbers that we're talking about are truly impossible for a human brain to encompass. | ||
It's really incredible, but that's what we spent. | ||
I mean, just $1 billion is almost impossible to imagine. | ||
Someone like you or I could achieve with a billion dollars. | ||
I mean, my God, if InfoWars had a billion dollars, could you imagine the change that we could bring about on Earth? | ||
Instead, we get something like a billion dollars of COVID response funds were then repurposed for unrelated acquisitions. | ||
So, we don't even know. | ||
It's just, you know, a billion dollars for COVID funds, and then it's like, oh, what did you do for COVID? It's like, oh, nothing. | ||
I spent that on something else. | ||
Don't worry about it. I mean, this is our government totally out of control. | ||
No oversight. Veto every spending bill. | ||
That's my advice to the president. | ||
I agree with that completely. | ||
Imagine doing that. | ||
You have a project. | ||
Your boss assigns you a very important project. | ||
It's critical to the company's success. | ||
You have a budget for this project that you are expected to use on the project. | ||
You go back with all your receipts at the end of the day to your boss. | ||
And, you know, he's looking at him and he goes, how come you bought a PlayStation 5 on eBay? | ||
How come you bought, how come you bought, what, you pre-ordered an Xbox Series S1V? How come you got that if you already have the PlayStation? | ||
I mean, the list would go on and then he would say, oh, well, those were just unrelated expenses. | ||
Yeah. No, this isn't how this works. | ||
Somebody should be paying their job for this. | ||
And it just goes on and on. | ||
715, over almost 716 million dollars in lost equipment designated for Syrians fighting ISIS. Gee, I wonder where that equipment ended up. | ||
I wonder, hmm, let's see, they're there with ISIS in the desert, and they've got tons of equipment, and then it's gone, and then, oops, we misplaced $700 million worth of equipment. | ||
How do you misplace that? | ||
It's not a phone, it's not a set of keys. | ||
This is almost a billion dollars worth of heavy equipment, and it just goes missing. | ||
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Oh dear. Oh my goodness. | |
And people still balk at Trump saying that we created ISIS. Not only did we create them, we lost our weapons and then they wind up shooting us with our own guns somehow. | ||
It's amazing, Harrison. It's amazing. | ||
These twists of fate. It is amazing. | ||
Speaking of lost equipment, apparently they lost drones over Afghanistan to the tune of $174 million. | ||
Oh, isn't that nice? | ||
Just lost the drones. | ||
Just, you know, some Army, you know, Air Force guy in a room somewhere is flying a $100 million drone, and it's just like, how you doing, officer? | ||
And he's just like, I got bad news. | ||
Whoops. I had to go to the bathroom. | ||
I landed on a hillside. | ||
When I came back, it was gone. | ||
Ah, my God. | ||
Okay, we'll go through the rest of these. | ||
And these are just the most ridiculous ones, by the way. | ||
If you want to do the document cam, you'll see I circled some of them. | ||
This is like one-tenth of what's listed out in this list. | ||
So if you're interested, go ahead and go to Rand Paul's Twitter, or you can find this just by searching Festivus Rand Paul. | ||
But here's what else we did. | ||
We rebuilt a taxiway for airplanes on Nantucket Island. | ||
Which I believe is a very low income, very impoverished area, Nantucket Island. | ||
Certainly not the vacation spot of the rich and famous. | ||
For $20 million, we bought COVID test tubes but received unusable soda bottles for $10.5 million. | ||
Thanks, FEMA. You did it. | ||
Well done. Of course, more bugs for us to eat, but here's sort of the cream of the crop. | ||
This is my favorite entry in the entire list. | ||
We spent $4.5 million spraying alcoholic rats with bobcat urine. | ||
Bobcat urine. And did we learn anything from this is my question. | ||
What were we trying to learn? | ||
You say, I always love that. | ||
What did you get in return? | ||
All right, I'm listening. What did we get? | ||
Did we learn how to use this as a bioweapon, at least? | ||
I mean, is there something? I mean, every word in this adds another layer of absurdity. | ||
I mean, you're spraying rats with bobcat urine. | ||
That's weird enough. The fact that they're alcoholic rats? | ||
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How did they even get there? | |
I mean, it's just absurdity upon absurdity. | ||
And this is what our government is... | ||
Very interested in doing, and now the Senate is going to show a rare show of force of will, and they're going to come back and they're going to demand that we pay for this type of nonsense. | ||
It's an indictment of our entire system, in my opinion. | ||
No, that's exactly what it is. | ||
And by the way, all these things you've mentioned, they all have that horrifying, terrible word, bipartisan. | ||
And now the bipartisan Congress is going to come together again and tell the alcoholic rat. | ||
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I'm sorry. That's gross. | |
Again, Harrison, I'm just like, alright, I'm listening. | ||
What did we learn? No, they're going to come back and they're going to say, that rat, damn it, we still don't know if it's still an alcoholic after getting sprayed with piss for a year. | ||
We gotta do this again. | ||
There's a lot of work yet to be done to figure out the consequence of spraying alcoholic rats with bobcat urine. | ||
It's It's just, and of course, that was the National Institute of Health and the VA, the Veterans Association. | ||
So, you know, God only knows. | ||
God only knows. We got veterans dying on the street, but at least we're spraying the alcoholic rats with bobcat urine. | ||
It's utterly absurd. I'm going to get the hell out of here before I go insane. | ||
Tom Papert, the show is in his capable hands. | ||
I thank you so much. This is Harrison Smith signing off. | ||
Tom Papert will take over the rest. | ||
Merry Christmas, Tom. Merry Christmas to everybody. | ||
We'll be in rebroadcast tomorrow, but we'll be back very soon, folks. | ||
Welcome back to the War Room. | ||
I am Tom Pappard, now flying solo for the rest of this broadcast. | ||
We're going to have some great guests popping in. | ||
We're going to have next, in the next segment, Andrew White, reporter at National File, who's | ||
really been exposing the SolarWinds company. You know, they were just hacked, got all of our top | ||
levels of government, they know everything, allegedly even had the nuclear codes. We still | ||
don't know who it is. The deep state is, of course, trying to blame Russia, even though SolarWinds has | ||
more ties to China than you could possibly imagine. So we're going to get the latest on that. | ||
And what that means for whatever the next administration is going to be. | ||
If they pull off the steel, of course Biden will be able to sell out the country to China 100%. | ||
If we are successful in carrying out the just election of President Trump, he will secure a second term. | ||
And then of course we have to figure out what on earth we're going to do about China. | ||
Then we're going to speak to Mark Sidney, the founder of Spreeley.com, the new social media site. | ||
I wanted to get somebody from some alt tech. | ||
Obviously, Gab is exploding right now. | ||
I cannot say enough nice and wonderful things about Gab. | ||
Parler is growing as well, and Spreeley, even the newest of the new social media platforms. | ||
Basically, right now, it seems that if you just love free speech and you're not going to censor your user base, you are going to grow exponentially. | ||
It's very exciting for For those of us who miss when the traditional social media big tech giants were not a bunch of censorious lunatics, sociopaths, I would argue, insane people. | ||
So that's going to be very, very exciting. | ||
But Harrison and I hosted the entire show. | ||
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Everybody is sitting there thinking with their Christmas confections. | ||
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after this is finally settled on January 20th. | ||
And we're all going to need to look back at ourselves and focus on within, focus on being optical, | ||
focus on sleeping, focus on eating, because the fight over the next four years | ||
is not going to be any less severe. | ||
So when we get back again, we're going to dive deep into China and I'll kind of give you a preview here in this first five. | ||
We Exposed, of course, SolarWinds connections to Silver Lake. | ||
You've heard about that here on InfoWars. | ||
Silver Lake is one of the biggest private equity firms in the world, $75 billion. | ||
They're all big tech Silicon Valley. | ||
And Silver Lake board member Kenneth Howe. | ||
Toma Bravo, who is also a board member of SolarWinds, just happens to be the guy who brought Silver Lake to China. | ||
Then, of course, you have Toma Bravo, where, then again, they share the board member. | ||
Toma Bravo is buying companies from shady Chinese companies that we don't even know where their address is. | ||
We don't know where their money comes from. | ||
Probably the CCP. I mean, that's generally what that means when you're buying from shady Chinese companies. | ||
And now we've got another one. | ||
SolarWinds itself, the whole company, Just two months after the hack, they partnered with another company, one of the big cybertech firms in the world, with the express purpose of expanding into China. | ||
When you merge with the Chinese government, it's not a joke. | ||
You don't get IP. You're done. | ||
Welcome back. We are now in the second hour of the War Room. | ||
Today is December 23rd, 2020. | ||
Today is the day that if Pence, our wonderful vice president, | ||
one of the first people to get the COVID vaccine apparently, if he wants to enforce the law, | ||
if he wants to uphold the law that was written many, many years ago, he needs to tell these six states | ||
with credible allegations of widespread voter fraud that their electoral college certificates are not legal. | ||
They must go back and either hold a second election, a new election, a redo election, | ||
or assign the electoral votes in their state legislatures. | ||
Today, the fourth Wednesday in December, is the day that Michael Pence can do this. | ||
Now, he has until midnight. | ||
Obviously, it hasn't happened yet because it would have been breaking news | ||
He has until midnight to do the right thing. | ||
And I think it's up to us fundamentally to let him and his team know there is no political future in terms of a career for Mike Pence if he stabs Trump in the back today and if he stabs Trump in the back on January 6th, the electoral college fight. | ||
Very, very scary times to be alive, especially when you consider the almost whole complete sellout of the United States to China. | ||
Our next guest is Andrew White. | ||
I think we've got him connected. | ||
And Andrew has been covering the SolarWinds hack and how the SolarWinds company is verifiably connected to China. | ||
Andrew, you just put out a new devastating article today. | ||
They were in the process of essentially expanding into China. | ||
Right around the time this hack happened. | ||
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So tell us about this. Well, so the ties between China and SolarWinds is a lot worse than we thought. | |
So today I found out that in May 2020, they partnered with EmTech to expand business opportunities into China. | ||
For those who don't know, the company was breached in March. | ||
And according to BusinessWire, The expanded partnership will enable businesses in China, across all vertical industries, such as banking, finance, insurance, manufacturing, education, and other commercial sectors, to solve IT challenges and monitor, manage, secure applications, servers, data, infrastructure, networks on all premises, hybrid and multi-cloud environments. | ||
Meaning, they are completely seeing everything. | ||
They are literally running this... | ||
I see stuff into China. | ||
And this EmTech has a network of 32 offices around the globe in Taiwan, China and Hong Kong, even in Beijing. | ||
The mainland China. That's the thing. | ||
And they brag about this on their website because this is a – I mean in the international business community, if you have managed to penetrate the Great Wall of China, if you get to go behind the scenes and merge with the CCP and the Chinese government, your profit margins are going to be insurmountable. | ||
And that's essentially – This ImTech company, that's what they do. | ||
They're a Singapore-based company, but they brag that they have multiple offices in China. | ||
And they don't, by the way, recognize Taiwan's independence, ImTech, because of course they don't. | ||
They work with China. They include Taiwan and Hong Kong as part of China. | ||
So they're in the mainland. They're in the islands. | ||
This is a company, an Asian company, that has a very large presence in China. | ||
And then you have SolarWinds. | ||
Two months after this hack, That I'm sure they didn't know about. | ||
Then they are essentially moving as far and as fast into the Chinese market as humanly possible. | ||
It just seems very, very suspect to me, Andrew, that you've got Chinese fingerprints. | ||
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It doesn't even stop there. | |
SolarWinds' distribution partners with three other Chinese companies, specifically WestCon Solutions China, Kunlan Solutions China Incorporated, and Beijing Kaio Corporation Limited. | ||
And that's on the SolarWinds website. | ||
It's like the more I look into SolarWinds, the more China I see. | ||
And IT experts have told me a lot of interesting things. | ||
Like this was most likely an inside job. | ||
And I mean, it literally has echoes or Patterns from the Hillary Clinton Podesta leaks, where Podesta's password was password with like an at instead of an a. | ||
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You can't even make this stuff up. | |
SolarWinds was literally SolarWinds123. | ||
Their password was literally SolarWinds123. | ||
All it would take was for some communist agent to walk into the building, edit the source code of the updates. | ||
That's exactly right. We're not blaming China for this, but it's certainly irresponsible of the media and Mike Pompeo and certain members of the Trump administration who do not seem to be aligned with the president. | ||
It's irresponsible, but they know this, Andrew. | ||
They know that it's irresponsible. They're all blaming Russia. | ||
Russia, Russia, Russia. | ||
Oh, this Russian hacking group that's taken credit for every hack in the past 25 years, they claim that it was them. | ||
Okay, problem solved. | ||
It was Russia. And meanwhile, I mean, they wouldn't do this with ISIS, by the way. | ||
When it was the Obama administration and ISIS was taking credit for terrorist attacks inside the United States, they said that that wasn't true and couldn't be proven. | ||
But when it's Russia, Russia bad, China doesn't exist. | ||
It's very, very peculiar. Tell me about these other companies. | ||
Do we know what they do in China? | ||
Because you do not get a company like this in the Communist People's Republic of China unless you are essentially merged with the CCP, right? | ||
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Absolutely. Everyone knows that. | |
You cannot have a business in China that isn't essentially overseen by the Chinese government. | ||
So anyone who does business with China is doing it just to make some easy money, benefiting off slave labor, poor illegal practices. | ||
It's absurd. | ||
And the fact that SolarWinds is this involved with China should raise alarms. | ||
Because this is absurd. | ||
I didn't even realize it was this bad. | ||
I just did a little bit more digging on SolarWinds' website, and they literally brag about it. | ||
They brag about it. That's the most damning thing in all of this. | ||
I mean, they all have committed. | ||
Alex Jones has been saying it for years and he's dead right. | ||
They're done with America. | ||
They view us as the past. | ||
They view us as a dying animal that we all just need to move on from. | ||
To them, China is the future. | ||
China is the future because the government, the CCP, has no regard for human life. | ||
They have a disregard for it, rather. | ||
They don't care if their people live or die or live in poverty or live in wealth. | ||
The only reason they want a middle class in China is because they've realized they've run out of countries to sell their crap to. | ||
Americans, we bought all the crummy Chinese goods we can, and so now they need a Chinese middle class. | ||
And that's probably why they're letting companies like Smartmatic in, because they're going to need to spy on this middle class. | ||
They're going to need to prove that they can shape their minds, even as they give them So let's, in the next segment, I want to talk about some of the implications. | ||
I mean, if Biden pulls off this steal, what does this mean? | ||
But let's talk a little bit more about some of these board members and refresh people's memory. | ||
So let's start with Kenneth Howe. | ||
Explain this guy. He's one of the top people at SolarWinds. | ||
Then he's at this other company that's selling out to China. | ||
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Okay, yeah. So Kenneth Howe, according to SolarWinds, has been serving on the board of directors since February 2016. | |
The bio also identifies Howe as the managing partner and managing director of Silver Lake. | ||
Silver Lake is a $75 billion investment or equity firm, and it's on Silver Lake's website as well. | ||
But according to Silver Lake, Kenneth Howe led the establishment of Silver Lake's offices in China, and he also led investments in Alibaba. | ||
And he's a total ghost. | ||
He went to Harvard and And then he started working for these firms and stuff. | ||
But anything prior to that, there's nothing there. | ||
There's the other character that we found, the Toma Bravo Company, which is another one of these big investment firms, private equity firms. | ||
And he bought, I mean, I still, I can't believe this. | ||
This should have been front page headline news. | ||
He bought J.D. Power back from the Chai comms after this mysterious company called Chow or XIO bought it from the Americans. | ||
So we lost the company that was like accrediting what cars are safe to be driven on the road. | ||
And then this guy who happens to be a board member at SolarWinds also is the founder and the board member and whatever else at Toma Bravo, and he's buying from this shady Chinese company. | ||
Oh, and by the way, the Chinese company made an $800 million profit on this deal. | ||
All they did was hold the company for three years. | ||
They don't seem to have added much value. | ||
Again, just made an $880 million profit, almost a billion dollars. | ||
It's very, very peculiar. | ||
So let's talk about in the next segment, we know for a fact that China is already in Canada, our northern neighbors. | ||
We know that China is doing everything it can to undermine the United States. | ||
Let's stress the importance of Mike Pence making the correct decision. | ||
Because otherwise, we're just going to be part of China. | ||
We'll be like Taiwan. This is The War Room. | ||
I am Tom Papert here with Andrew White, our reporter and national file who's been covering the China beat as we wade through the fallout from the solar winds hack, the fallout from the election. | ||
And Andrew, we were talking briefly in the break, but one thing that I forgot to mention to you that we absolutely have to bring up is We're good to go. | ||
One SolarWinds product. | ||
So Dominion voting system, where people have alleged that they sent voting information to Germany, people have alleged that they have this algorithm where they can make Democrat votes count more and Republican votes count less. | ||
They have all of these allegations against them, and now, I mean, we've caught them red-handed that they use at least one SolarWinds product. | ||
So break this down for us, Andrew. | ||
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Yeah, so Dominion denies using the Compromised Orion platform, but they've deleted all references and links to SolarWinds off of their website. | |
A few people online pointed that out. | ||
But the product that they do use is called ServeU. | ||
So we can for sure say that Dominion is using SolarWinds products, and that's a huge, huge deal. | ||
Given what SolarWinds does as a company, it's IT management. | ||
Given what Dominion does. Yeah. | ||
IT management. And meanwhile, you have Dominion there in Maricopa County. | ||
They're refusing to give up the Dominion machines. | ||
They're going to refuse to comply with a subpoena. | ||
The Republican Party of Arizona is basically calling for their arrest at this point because they're refusing to do this. | ||
So it certainly seems like both Dominion, the company, and the people who bought the machines don't want them investigated, especially in the wake of this SolarWinds hack. | ||
I find it all very, very, very suspicious to say the least. | ||
Yeah. So that, we just, we had to get that out there. | ||
But then, I mean, this is not the only thing China has been doing this past year, allegedly. | ||
We don't know for sure if it was them, but it certainly seems like it could be. | ||
But China, I mean, they've been holding these, well, I'll let you break it down. | ||
I mean, they're in Canada. We have our biggest geopolitical adversary doing military exercises just on the other side of our northern border. | ||
Break this down if you can. | ||
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Yeah, the Chinese military is training with The Canadian military in Canada right now. | |
And we figured that out because Rebel News actually released documents highlighting all of this. | ||
The reason that the way that they found this out was there was a Russian report that Canada had sent troops or a delegation to China to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the People Liberation Army Navy in 2019. | ||
And they didn't get any word from it. | ||
Nineteen months later, Canada's government sent documents to Rebel News confirming that the Chinese military was hosting the CAF and that they participated in this event. | ||
But it also revealed that Trudeau invited the PLA to conduct cold weather training exercises in military installations throughout Canada. | ||
So literally, PLA, the Chinese military, is on Canadian soil conducting cold weather training exercises with the CAF. I guess they don't have cold weather in China. | ||
I mean, it just doesn't make sense. | ||
I know it gets pretty cold in Canada, but I'm sure once you get up there close to Mongolia, it gets a little chilly at night in China. | ||
And one thing that I don't think, and this just came to me as you were talking, that people understand here is the PLA, We're not talking the Marines or the U.S. Army or the Royal Air Force even across the pond. | ||
No, the PLA does not swear their allegiance to China. | ||
The PLA swears their allegiance to the Chinese Communist Party and glorious leader Xi Jinping and the people who really run him. | ||
So it's not just like you're doing friendly exercises with a neighboring nation's military. | ||
It's not a neighboring nation. | ||
It's across an ocean. | ||
And it's not their military. | ||
It's not the Chinese military. | ||
It's the People's Liberation Army. | ||
It's the paramilitary, the actual military arm of the CCP. And we have them operating in North America. | ||
I mean, you cannot make this stuff up. | ||
So then, Andrew, of course, we have the Swalwell stuff where he's been fanging it up with this lady for God knows how long. | ||
This comes after a year or two after we find out that Dianne Feinstein, the doddering old lady in the Senate, her brain is dying, but she has been ferried around, chauffeured around by a Chinese limo driver spy for decades. | ||
She didn't know about it for like 10 years. | ||
And then it comes out and she's like, oh, well, we finally fired him at least. | ||
So... What do you make of this for our future? | ||
I mean, obviously, Mike Pence has a lot on his shoulders, but what's going to happen with the United States and China, in your opinion, if we don't right this ship? | ||
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Well, I would say for America to expect a lot of accusations of Russian misbehavior, a lot of anti-Russian sentiment, because I find it interesting that the people that accuse the Russians and Americans of Colluding with the Russians and all this Russia, this Russia, that have the biggest ties to the Chinese. | |
I think it's absurd and it's ironic and it's hypocritical because they're in bed with the Russians too. | ||
I mean, these people are bought and paid for. | ||
So if Pence does not address this and do the right thing for the American people, he's essentially handing us over to the Chinese taker. | ||
And he needs to understand that That the American people are going to view this as the ultimate betrayal. | ||
Keep what Pelosi is saying and the Democrats are saying aside, even take away what Mitch McConnell's been saying, his betrayal. | ||
If Mike Pence does not do the right thing and do what he is legally obligated to, that will be the ultimate betrayal of the American people, and we know he's in on it too, if that's the case. | ||
And expand on that, because I think you're touching on something that we're all kind of mystified by, and that is that the American people, I mean, it's not just the hardened Infowars listeners and National File readers. | ||
It's now, this thing is going, like, global. | ||
It's going everywhere. It's going viral in the traditional sense of the word, that America is waking up. | ||
What do you think about that? | ||
Do you agree that, fundamentally, people are mad, people are awake, and people are not going away right now? | ||
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Yeah, millions and millions of people. | |
I could even tell you stories about my friends and people in my immediate life that have begun to woke up and understand what's really going on here. | ||
But at the same time, I'd say that just as many people have been sucked into this media, hypnotized, brainwashed show that they're pushing. | ||
If you turn on CNN, I guarantee you right now, it's all gonna be about COVID, COVID, COVID, when all of this stuff is going down. | ||
No, that's a very good point. | ||
I mean, we're definitely more divided than ever, but in a way, that's obviously not what you want. | ||
You want unity, but in a way, it's a good thing because there is no more middle ground. | ||
There is no fence-sitters. | ||
Either you're going to take your $600 slap in the face as your country is sold out to China at the auction block, or you're going to fight back legally, lawfully, and politically, and you're going to... | ||
The lines have been divided. | ||
It's very clear now. I think you're correct about that, and I do think that as a result, more people are awake Andrew White, phenomenal work. Love what you're doing at National File. | ||
Thank you for coming on today. | ||
Where can folks find you in about five seconds online? | ||
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Follow me on Parler at WhiteAF3. | |
Welcome back. This is The War Room. | ||
We're at the bottom of the second hour now, and I wanted to do something, even though this is such an insane day, I wanted to take a little bit of time out to discuss something that is going to be critical as we continue to unite as a country of patriots, at least the patriot side of the country, and as we continue to need to communicate without our previous giants. | ||
I mean, Box News is useless, but You have even mainstream conservative or alternative conservative websites. | ||
I won't name them, but they are pressuring National File to stop reporting what we're reporting right now. | ||
And these are names that you probably trust. | ||
So it's going to be more important than ever for us to find new ways to network, new ways to connect, new ways to share information. | ||
Of course, InfoWars, ban.video. | ||
now it's the resistance.video is a massive part of this. | ||
It's essentially the one big platform that they cannot touch and boy, do they want to. | ||
And that's why it's important to go to infowarsstore.com. | ||
But there are also these new platforms coming out left and right. | ||
Everybody knows about Parler by now. | ||
I'm personally a massive fan of Gab. | ||
And now there is a new one. | ||
It's been out a year or two, but it's just improving mile at a time, it seems. | ||
Spreely.com, speak freely. | ||
We have the founder with us here, Mark Sidney. | ||
Do we have Mark? | ||
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Here I am, Tom. | |
Appreciate it. Absolutely. | ||
Glad you could make it on, especially now in this insane time where we're all doing 50 million things at once. | ||
So, obviously, Spreely.com. | ||
I'm a huge fan because I was a bigger fan of Facebook than I was Twitter or any of these | ||
other things. | ||
And you have made something that is arguably much better than Facebook. | ||
There's no algorithms. | ||
There's nothing in there to make it so I'm going to be punished, has a similar UI. | ||
And in some ways it just it works more intuitively because you're not trying to hide things from | ||
me like they do. | ||
I wanted to get you on to just kind of talk about the explosion in alt-tech since the election, because that is when it became apparent. | ||
Twitter started censoring the president. | ||
Facebook banned you. | ||
They banned me. They banned everybody I know. | ||
So do you think that there is an explosion happening right now in these alt-tech sites? | ||
Yeah, I think it's society-wide, actually. | ||
I think The institutions that have lorded over us have burned all their credibility, whether it comes to media, social media, government, you know, the FBI, the DOJ. I don't know anyone that I speak to on either side of the aisle, to be honest, that trusts any of these institutions. | ||
And finally, when Twitter decided to put warnings up on Trump's posts that we're dealing with the election, I think everyone realized way too late, but everyone realized where this is headed. | ||
And it caused Parler to explode and Gab to explode and Spreely's traffic to explode. | ||
BitChute, all these alternative platforms are taking off because people realize, as Drudge prophesied on this network, what, five years ago, that we've been herded into these little ghettos and there are five corporations or so that control the internet. | ||
You know, my children aren't really going to know what a free internet It was like they won't know getting the AOL disk in. | ||
Tom, you may be too young for this, but us boomers remember getting the AOL disk in the mail and the dial-up modems and the internet was new and open and free and it hasn't been that way for a while and our children aren't going to experience that freedom the internet had to offer unless we create things grassroots such as Freely, Parler, Gab, sites like this where Open dialogue is protected, and of course we want to make money. | ||
There's nothing to make money, but the ultimate goal here is to allow the public forum free discussion of ideas to continue. | ||
And I think that that's what's critical. | ||
And you're right. I mean, I was on the tail end of kind of the free internet where, you know, I was transitioning from dial-up. | ||
Then you had, what was it, Netscape. | ||
Then you had Friendster. | ||
Then you had MySpace. | ||
And then, of course, Facebook came along and it's all just gone literally downhill ever since then. | ||
But what's really refreshing, and I want to talk about the NDAA as well. | ||
We have to cover that. But what's really refreshing about these alt-tech sites, I have to say, is you log into them and it doesn't feel like you're getting a computer-generated timeline anymore. | ||
It feels like people are posting thoughts and you are reading them in real time. | ||
It's very refreshing when you sign into Spreely or Gab or Parler and you're not seeing the same type of garbage that you see on either Facebook or Twitter because they have the same agenda. | ||
Their algorithms show you the same thing. | ||
So today, just before the war room started, President Trump vetoed the 2020 NDAA, the military authorization spending thing. | ||
He had months ago said that if they do not go after big tech Section 230 immunity, then he would veto this bill. | ||
They obviously did not. | ||
Instead, they did everything they could to make this bill appetizing to China and to big tech. | ||
So what do you make of this? | ||
I mean, obviously we have a long and hard fight ahead of us before January 20th, but I am cautiously optimistic that we are finally seeing some movement on this. | ||
What are your thoughts? Well, it's encouraging that Trump vetoed it, and 230 is important, but we can't just strike the statute in its entirety because then platforms such as Gab or Parler or Facebook, even Twitter, they wouldn't even be allowed to exist. | ||
So we would go back to having the six big media corporations that own, you know, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, print media. | ||
They would be the only ones who are allowed to speak. | ||
So it's important that 230 is honed in Section 230 of the Communications CC Act. | ||
It's more about the way it's interpreted. | ||
And in the filtering practices that these companies engage in, they can't look at the identity of a speaker or the viewpoint when they're trying to censor content. | ||
You know, the purpose of the statute was to protect children from pornography and harm. | ||
I think they've gotten away with so much with all these purges where people have lost millions of fans that they've built up over time. | ||
And the court just needs to rule that you can't filter in a way that isn't consistent with the First Amendment. | ||
I mean, we've had such miserable courts here in this country. | ||
I think most Americans are sitting there thinking, are we ever going to really get a court that's going to make a decision about 230 that's not just Facebook gets to do whatever they want? | ||
So what I mean, because obviously there's a big push to do something with 230. | ||
And I tend to I've heard that argument and I tend to believe there's some credence to it that. | ||
If one big lawsuit could end Gab, you better bet George Soros would finance that lawsuit tomorrow. | ||
So what do you think, could some language be added to 230 to invalidate the need for a judge to make a ruling and make the law more clear? | ||
Because, I mean, it was written, we were just talking about Dianne Feinstein and it was her, right? | ||
It was Dianne Feinstein in 1996 when she still had some, you know, freshness to her brain No, it's true. | ||
And no one foresaw this. | ||
I think, you know, the statute says that they're able to take down content that is, quote, otherwise objectionable, which is very broad. | ||
I think that language could be narrowed. | ||
It just needs to be interpreted differently. | ||
There's a case that's on the docket to be heard by the Supreme Court, I don't know if it'll be heard, that deals with this, FIC versus Facebook, but there are other issues at play in that case. | ||
I just don't think a judge would dare to touch it. | ||
If you think about it, there's a venue clause in Facebook's terms of service, which means you have to bring your court in the Northern District of California, I believe it is, Where Facebook and all the Silicon Valley alligarchs live, I think it would take a judge with some pretty big cojones to squash the $5 trillion information gathering operations in their backyard. | ||
So the fact that only Senator Cruz and Hawley understand it is a little disconcerting, to be honest. | ||
Which is why we're creating these other solutions. | ||
That's what I think is the solution, because from what you're saying, I mean, I think this fight that we've been in for over a month now, since November 3rd with President Trump, I mean, he's had, I mean, how many of these cases, either from the campaign or from other actors or from Texas, how many of these cases were open and shut, easy to understand in layman's terms, let alone if you're a lawyer, and then it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court and they just say, Nah, we don't want to. | ||
We don't think this has standing. | ||
You should have launched this lawsuit before the election, before you were even harmed by it. | ||
I mean, personally, I don't have a lot of faith in the courts. | ||
Now, maybe if President Trump can strong-arm them, that might be a solution. | ||
But let's talk about, because I really view this as almost an exodus to these all-tech platforms. | ||
I want to ask you on the other side if you think this is going to backfire. | ||
We'll be right back. Welcome back. | ||
This is The War Room. | ||
Our guest is Mark Sidney, the founder of Spreely, one of the big new alt-tech social media sites that is just exploding in popularity in what I'm starting to mentally process now. | ||
As being the post-election crackdown. | ||
And so, Mark, I mean, you and I have been talking about this for a couple years, that, I mean, they've been turning up the heat just slowly, very, very slowly. | ||
You know, first they did Alex Jones, and everybody kind of goes, whoa! | ||
But then the... The normie class says, well, you know, Alex is a crazy person, so it was okay that they banned him. | ||
But then they start going after more people. | ||
They went after all of Alex's associates. | ||
They go after Gavin McInnes. | ||
They go after Laura Loomer, a Jewish congressional candidate. | ||
I still can't figure that one out. | ||
They go after people who are just normal individuals who are posting about their cars, and maybe they use the wrong version of transmission that Facebook doesn't allow you to post. | ||
And it just gets ratcheted up and ratcheted up. | ||
And it was happening very slowly, so nobody understood how bad things really were when it came to our First Amendment not existing. | ||
And then came the election. | ||
About a week before it, at the tail end of October, my Facebook page that was just a fun, whimsical Facebook page had been around since 2015, previously been banned six times, and they always gave it back and admitted they were wrong. | ||
Well, then they banned me for looking like somebody else. | ||
That was literally what they said. They said I looked like somebody else that they banned, so I had to go too. | ||
Now they're playing games with National File. | ||
They will not let me access my own business's Facebook page. | ||
They've removed me from it without my permission. | ||
And so this is just ratcheting up so much. | ||
They're doing it to, of course, the New York Post right before the election was banned out of their Twitter account for God knows how long, and you couldn't post the links on Facebook. | ||
So I feel like they went from one degree a month, To now they have two burners on max heat and we are boiling, we're steaming, the water's overflowing and the frogs seem to be jumping out and seem to be jumping over to Spreely and to Gab and to these other sites. | ||
So do you think that they've acted, they've done too much, they overextended and now they're facing the consequences? | ||
I think they've overextended in the minds of the average American. | ||
And people are looking for other alternatives. | ||
I don't think they've overextended enough that anyone in government is going to do anything to come down on them, because at the end of the day, Facebook, in my view, is more powerful than the government. | ||
They control who gets to speak, what they get to speak about. | ||
Dr. Epstein is the one who always does the studies on the data and how Google, just by changing their search results, We've seen them do with the Hillary body count story. | ||
That Fox News clip went over it. | ||
They could swing 10, 15 million votes. | ||
So I think that they've gone too far that the average person knows. | ||
Like, Parler's got 10 million uters on. | ||
It really has had about 50% growth since the election. | ||
People are looking for alternatives. | ||
I think You know, voting with your dollar is always a solution. | ||
I don't want to make laws that tell people what they have to do, what they can and can't do. | ||
And people are learning that when you go on these legacy platforms, you're no longer getting what you want. | ||
You're getting a curated feed that is aimed at socially engineering you. | ||
And people are smart enough to know that this isn't what I signed up for. | ||
I agreed to give you my data and my content in exchange for a feed that shows me what I want. | ||
And the moment you stop giving people what they want is the moment you start your decline. | ||
Now, some of these companies have over 2 billion users, 3 billion users. | ||
So they're pretty saturated, and the market's going to take time to develop alternatives, especially when it comes to social networks, because the whole premise is you need a huge population of people so that you can have pre-made connections that you already know, your friends are on there, yada, yada. | ||
But now that the market's becoming more fragmented, Places like Spreely are seeing people connect not because they want to talk to their friends and family, but they want to share ideas, like the New York Post story about Hunter Biden or whatever it might be, that you're literally not allowed to talk about on social media. | ||
So I think the future of social media is going to be more fragmented. | ||
I don't think Facebook is going to be able to maintain the scale that they have now. | ||
It seems, if I were them, my goal would be to one day get into China. | ||
I don't think I would be willing to make the compromises. | ||
I know I wouldn't be willing to make the compromises that you would need to get into China. | ||
But if you're looking at it as a business, which Facebook is an over $700 billion market cap company, they're looking at this as, how do I keep growing the bottom line? | ||
The only natural place of growth is China. | ||
And to get into China, you kind of need a product that looks like what these big tech platforms are morphing into now, which is They're not looking to give the users control. | ||
They're looking to control their users. | ||
That's exactly right. So you said some really big things there. | ||
And the China connection is something that I don't think enough people have understood. | ||
If you are a sociopathic – I mean they call them corporate sociopaths for a reason, right? | ||
It's extremely common at top high levels of corporations. | ||
For the management to be sociopathic, because that's how you thrive in that business. | ||
You screw over your best friend, you sell your mother for 10% of Apple, you know, whatever you can do to get ahead. | ||
And so when they look at America, they see 350 million people, a middle class that's been shrinking year after year until Trump got into office, companies going offshore. | ||
And now, especially now, they're looking at a potential Biden presidency, and they're | ||
gonna see all that accelerate. | ||
Then they look at China, and they see billions of people, a middle class that is growing, | ||
if only artificially, they see the new world order in China, and they want a piece of that | ||
pie so they can get and stay very, very rich. | ||
But you said something that I think is key, and I think I'm gonna start using that whenever | ||
I refer to these platforms. | ||
You called them legacy platforms. | ||
And when you use them, it does kind of feel that way. | ||
The energy is gone, the excitement is gone, Facebook is so bad, you will see the same | ||
three or four posts for weeks at a time. | ||
Twitter, of course, the most interesting and useful part of Twitter was always the trending | ||
hashtags, and that has been manipulated to the point where it's unusable. | ||
Google, of course, the search is pointless, you can't do anything with it, you have to | ||
use something else, or you have to use bullying terms to get what you're looking for. | ||
So these platforms, they've lived out their use, their legacy, and the exciting place | ||
to be is on Gab, and on Spreely, and on Parler. | ||
And, you know, you guys have technical difficulties. | ||
And you called me before and you're like, I'm freaking out, man. | ||
We're having downtime. We've been down for 15 minutes. | ||
This is terrible. I can't do, you know. | ||
But... That's what makes it exciting. | ||
That's how you know a real person is involved and that it's not this corporate engine that may or may not have started at the CIA with this android-looking guy Zuckerberg at the top of it. | ||
I think that that's what makes it exciting to be a part of. | ||
We know that Mark Sidney is real. | ||
We know that Andrew Torba is real. | ||
The same can't be said For Zuckerberg, who plasters, like, I don't know, white, what do you call that, sunscreen, suntan lotion on his face to the point where he looks like he's an android. | ||
I mean, I think the authenticity of these new platforms is a big part of the pull. | ||
What do you think? I agree, and I think that's one of the great things that Parler did by growing as fast as they did, was it changed the landscape for, I wouldn't call us competitors, I think we're all We can all live in the same ecosystem. | ||
How many places banned Alex Jones when he had his moment of censorship, where, what was it, 37, 40 different websites and outlets banned him from their platforms? | ||
So the authoritarians have dozens upon dozens of websites that are social and allow people to interact. | ||
So, there's this competition among some people where they feel, well, I like Gabber, I like Parler, I like Spreely, I like this platform. | ||
We can all exist. I think there's plenty. | ||
There's — how many votes did Trump get? | ||
Seventy-some-odd million or more. | ||
How many people support conservative, traditional American values? | ||
I mean, there are hundreds of millions of people in this country. | ||
So, I think All these platforms are going to make it. | ||
We just need people to realize that we're just a couple guys trying to make this work. | ||
And the same thing is true with Parler. | ||
Now, they've grown quickly and they've got big backers, but they're going through the learning curve that Facebook's gone through. | ||
And consumers need to realize that if you want To help create a place where it's safe for speech, you're going to need to put up with some hiccups. | ||
And I know you're used to dealing with a $700 billion company that's been doing it for 15 years, and there's no downtime because they can't afford to pay multibillion-dollar server bills. | ||
But if you're willing to put up with little hiccups here and there and build these platforms up, we can really go back to a place where we were able to install a president who had never run for office. | ||
I think it's important to remember that this movement began long ago, and Trump just rode the wave. | ||
And I'm not trying to deride him in any way, but the movement is way bigger than Donald Trump. | ||
This is a bunch of people who are sick of being told what to do. | ||
And NBC and, you know, Morning Joe to get elected, it wouldn't have happened. | ||
He would not have won. He would have been a failed case. | ||
He wouldn't have made it through the primaries if it wasn't for, frankly, people like you, Mark, and people like me and everybody else who used to be big on the legacy platforms that have now banned us. | ||
I mean, we elevated his message. | ||
But it was his message, but we elevated it. | ||
It never would have got through. | ||
Mark, if you can, we'll talk in the break. | ||
Stay for the first five of the next hour. | ||
I don't know if you're able, but I'd love to have you. | ||
I want to ask about one more question. We're good to go. | ||
Sydney and Mark is, of course, one of these, again, it's a ragtag bunch of people, just very much like National File, it's five or six guys, and really started as one or two a year ago. | ||
Spreeley is the same way, Gab is the same way, Parler is the same way, and we are taking the fight | ||
to these corrupt establishment oligarchs. | ||
So, Mark, I carried you over for five minutes because I've been so buried in the election | ||
that I just have not even been really paying attention to big tech until this NDAA thing came out today, | ||
and I thought it was a great time to get you on to talk about that. | ||
A couple days ago, though, Poland announced a law that I think that they have proposed | ||
that I think could actually pass, is my understanding. | ||
It would fine social media companies up to 2.2 million euros for censoring lawful speech. | ||
And so that is like per censorship. | ||
There would be like a two-day review period where the government would say to Facebook, hey, you're going to fix this? | ||
You're going to make this right? | ||
And if they don't, then they would have the fine levied upon them. | ||
This seems to me like maybe it could put a dent in these $700 billion platforms. | ||
But what do you think? | ||
Well, if you were to censor these companies $2 million for every violation, they'd quickly be insolvent. | ||
I think that anytime you get the government involved in determining what speech can be engaged in, it gets dicey. | ||
Then you get a tyrannical regime in and they start pressuring them to censor things. | ||
So the answer is innovation still. | ||
I mean, I like the idea of holding them You can get that from 70%? | ||
No, but that's fair. | ||
And I think that that's a good point. | ||
And I appreciate that you are still at heart the honest libertarian who says, I don't want the government to get involved in my free speech. | ||
We just need to make our own thing. | ||
Now, part of me... | ||
I think Facebook has broken the law. | ||
I think that they are an unscrupulous company. | ||
They're in bed with the Chinese. | ||
I would like to see them pay financially, not physically. | ||
I don't wish ill upon Zuckerberg. | ||
I just wish he'd lose his job. | ||
I think that that's a fair thing to say. | ||
But I appreciate that. | ||
You're probably right in that we're not going to get the courts on our side. | ||
We're not going to get the legislatures on our side. | ||
And if we do create these powers, they're just going to be abused by either President Kamala Harris or President AOC, unfortunately, sometime within our lifetimes, I'm afraid. | ||
I fear every day. Mark, tell folks how they can sign up for Spreely, what to expect when they do it, and then how do we follow you on some of these new tech platforms? | ||
Maybe that's what we do. It's not alt tech. | ||
It's new tech and legacy tech. | ||
I think I'm branding it that way in everything I do from now on. | ||
But how do they find you? How do they join? | ||
And where can they follow you? | ||
Alright, so on desktop, you can go to spreeley.com, sign up and create an account. | ||
We have apps, knock on wood for now, in the Apple Store and the Droid Store, and we've had those for over a year now. | ||
You can go to fundingfreespeech.com. | ||
All this is definitely not free, and while we're working on restoring monetization to content creators and people who put their content on the internet, one of the ways we're monetizing right now is thecostclub.com. | ||
So basically, we ask for $10 a month, and for that, you get access to American-made products that are barely above cost. | ||
We don't look to make money on the transaction. | ||
We just ask for subscribers. | ||
We'll give you extra Perks and storage space and the like on Spreely. | ||
But FundingFreeSpeech.com gives you an overview of the alternative universe we're trying to create in the technology space that is free and open. | ||
And Spreely.com, go on there, join, poke around. | ||
You'll see some people you know, some familiar faces like the one on the bottom corner of the screen there. | ||
You'll see Alex Jones, that's for sure. | ||
Mark Sidney, Spreely.com, thanks for coming on. | ||
We're going to take your calls in the rest of this hour. | ||
This is the War Room. | ||
Welcome to the third and final hour, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. | ||
This may be the final InfoWars. | ||
We'll be in repeats tomorrow, rebroadcast tomorrow and on Christmas Day. | ||
Alex has already said, though, that is assuming nothing insane happens like thermonuclear war before the end of Christmas. | ||
Because let me tell you, folks, we're not going to stop working. | ||
We're going to go home and we're going to do it on our laptops instead of doing it at the office and at the studio. | ||
So we're going to be taking your calls for the rest of this broadcast, and we're getting ready to give out that number now. | ||
But I want to talk about what you think of Mike Pence, whether or not he's going to get his guts and do the right thing. | ||
What do you think of the Chinese takeover of the United States? | ||
And what do you think Trump's... | ||
What do you think the chances are of his remaining paths to victory? | ||
And will he do what now Jenna Ellis and everybody else is trying to get him not to do and use the Insurrection Act if all of these other things fall through? | ||
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and I still believe that we can, or whether the communist puppet Joe Biden gets in there, | ||
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That's 877-789-2539. | ||
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I want to return, before we start taking your calls and maybe we can talk about this, to the situation with our Vice President Michael Pence. | ||
Now, I mean, the fact that first this information came out on Infowars and on Twitter and on National File, the powers that be in the White House are not happy about that. | ||
The fact that then an internal memo was given to the media, us, the good media, the honest media, that's just icing on the cake. | ||
But make no mistake, there's absolutely a civil war in the White House between the people who, I mean, I think everybody in the White House recognizes that Trump won, but some people just are begging him to let them go back to their lives. | ||
And then you have the people who are actually willing to fight for America. | ||
And when we win this, if we win this, I still think it's optimistic, but I'm not going to say it's going to happen. | ||
I don't know what's going to happen on January 20th. | ||
This is going to be an opportunity. | ||
We can now purge all of these people from the White House. | ||
They have to go to the unemployment line. | ||
They can get their $300 a week plus a $600 one-time payment. | ||
But keep the pressure on our vice president is my big message. | ||
He feels it. His people around him feel it. | ||
And the fact that this only got to him last night or today is indicative to me that the people around the vice president are not looking out for his best interests any more than the people around the president. | ||
The fact of the matter is, the legal advisor is not talking about Giuliani or Ellis. | ||
But the legal advisors that Pence has are not good people. | ||
The aides that Trump has are not good people. | ||
Alex Jones has been telling you about this for years. | ||
Well, imagine what Trump is going through now, where he has people in the White House begging him to end the madness. | ||
Just say it's all over, Mr. | ||
President. Just concede. | ||
We'll back you in four years. | ||
Let it end. So Mike Pence needs to know that the majority of Americans, the majority of the Trump base, which is not the Republican Party base, make no mistake, The Trump base is not going to forgive Mike Pence if he doesn't do the right thing today. | ||
And if he can blame ignorance, he can blame his aides not giving him the information, he can just say he didn't go on Twitter. | ||
Pence card was the number one trend on Twitter for most of the day. | ||
He can just say he didn't know. | ||
But he needs to do the right thing on January 6th if he's going to pretend he doesn't know today. | ||
So I'm looking forward to hearing what you guys think of this, what you think of our vice president, who of course has been at least publicly a very supportive man of President Trump. | ||
He did a speech last night, I believe, yesterday in Florida, part of the Turning Point event, where I'm trying to think of what he said. | ||
He spent about 10, 12 seconds. | ||
I'm not kidding. We're going to time this out for an article. | ||
It might be getting published now at National File. | ||
I've been sitting here for three hours. | ||
But we're getting ready to publish an article. | ||
Mike Pence spent something like 45 seconds out of a 30-minute speech yesterday that was always spent talking about election fraud and voter integrity and election integrity and fighting for Trump. | ||
So that's like 99.9999999% of the speech is socialism bad, socialism bad, and.00001% of the speech is talking about fixing this corrupt, fraudulent election. | ||
So I don't know. This guy needs to feel the pressure, and the people around him need to. | ||
Welcome back to the War Room. | ||
Breaking news. President Trump just tweeted about the rumors that he's going to appoint a special counsel to investigate the widespread voter fraud that we know occurred on November 3rd and the months leading up to it, and the few days after. | ||
You know, they didn't stop counting votes, it seems like. | ||
They didn't stop receiving votes. | ||
Are they done receiving votes? | ||
I'm honestly not sure. | ||
President Trump tweeted, This was the most corrupt election in the history of our country, and it must be closely examined. | ||
It was rumored earlier today that Sidney Powell was out. | ||
She had been informed that she would not be appointed as a special counsel. | ||
Barr, of course, said there would be no special counsel, but tomorrow was Barr's last day in the office, or maybe today is his last day in the office, and thank the Lord for that. | ||
Bye-bye bagpipes. | ||
What a useless individual. | ||
But it is very, very interesting that President Trump is defying the leaks coming out of his office. | ||
And by the way, these leaks coming out of his office... | ||
They're all from the people who want him to concede. | ||
Trump doesn't want to concede, but half the White House is begging him to. | ||
And frankly, they should all lose their jobs, and they will. | ||
But you can't do that now or it makes Trump look weak. | ||
But it's disgusting that it's left to Alex Jones and Tom Papert and those of us here on the outside to support this president. | ||
The people who have been with him through thick and thin are not there to do it. | ||
So it's disturbing. | ||
Today there was a leak saying that they put out... | ||
The memo saying to clean the microwave and return your mugs to the break room when we're out of here on January 20th. | ||
And of course, as soon as they leaked that to the press, President Trump retracts it because he didn't know about it. | ||
It's disgusting what they're doing to this man from the inside, from within the Oval Office, I'm guessing. | ||
All right, let's start taking your calls. | ||
Again, I think we've still got some numbers available. | ||
If you want to go ahead and call in, that number is 877-789-2539. | ||
So let's go now to Jeff in Canada, who wants to discuss how we can support Alex going into 2021. | ||
Very, very important topic. | ||
Jeff in Canada, welcome to the War Room. | ||
Hey, thanks for taking my call. | ||
Hey, first I wanted to figure out How many people does it take to hold down a bobcat while you're collecting a urine? | ||
I can't get that out of my head. | ||
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What was the hospitalization bill over that? | |
What was the hospitalization bill? | ||
It has to have been huge. | ||
The vet's office alone. | ||
But then again, I'm just like, all right, I'm listening. | ||
What is it? What did we learn from this? | ||
But they don't even tell you. | ||
We didn't learn anything. This sounds like an acid-inspired experiment, not a science-inspired experiment. | ||
No, thank you. That's... | ||
I needed that relief. | ||
Comedic relief. So let's discuss how can we help Alex? | ||
How can we support Alex going into 2021? | ||
Do you have an idea? I do. | ||
And I think challenging times really causes heroes and cowards to rise. | ||
And we're seeing so much of that on the cowardly side. | ||
But the heroes are always going to be there. | ||
and Alex has been there as just a real soul work leader for so many years. | ||
He's talked about how he spends, you know, three or four hours a day doing the business side of things. | ||
What I was thinking was this, what if InfoWars would hire like an assistant, | ||
like a quartermaster, like a company clerk that could help Alex and take the weight | ||
of the business side of things and the ad and the, you know, the stocking and things like that. | ||
And then on every InfoWars order, we throw a dollar for the quartermaster on there. | ||
I don't think there would be one info warrior that would be against that, and it would pay for that wage, and it would free Alex up for a lot of time and bring a fresh face to the business as well. | ||
I just wanted to put that out as a thought. | ||
I think it's a good idea. | ||
And I can say, you know, from being obviously a national file is nowhere near the level of Infowars. | ||
But once you are apparent that you're not going to be the Fox News, that you're not going to play, you're not going to color within the lines of what you're allowed to say and what you're not allowed to say. | ||
It gets a lot harder to hire people. | ||
I mean, it's bizarre. It's like you would think that somebody working in an office, they understand that it's just a job and it's a good job for a good company. | ||
But they're afraid. | ||
They think that once you work for Alex Jones, you're never going to get another job. | ||
But I think it's a good idea. And I do know that Alex works hard. | ||
He's got some division of labor there. | ||
The crew is phenomenal. | ||
The warehouse people, I've met a few of them. | ||
Phenomenal people. But fundamentally, Alex is the guy at the top. | ||
He's the general in this army. | ||
And he is the one there. | ||
It looks like on screen. | ||
Thank you so much for your call. | ||
It looks like on screen, I'm guessing President Trump is landing in Florida. | ||
He is again going to spend the winter at Mar-a-Lago, or going to spend the holiday at Mar-a-Lago, which is to be expected. | ||
It's typical of President Trump that this is now his permanent address. | ||
Mar-a-Lago, Florida is where he lives, where he votes. | ||
He has fled New York just like He's going to preside over the vote on January 6th, and then he's getting on a plane, and he's going to go to Israel, and he's going to go to a bunch of other countries in the Middle East. | ||
He's leaving the country. It's very, very peculiar. | ||
All right, let's go to O'Brien in Maryland who wants to talk about the Electoral College. | ||
O'Brien, welcome to the War Room, my friend. | ||
Looks like we might have lost O'Brien. | ||
O'Brien, are you there? No, I'm still here. | ||
There he is, O'Brien. | ||
Let's hear it. What do you have on the Electoral College? | ||
I am optimistic about this fight on the 6th, if we get down to it personally. | ||
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Well, of course, but there's still Mike Pence. | |
I mean, I made a prediction that technically that they're going to seat the electoral | ||
college on the 12th, and it did. | ||
I mean, Matt Bracken also said about the Supreme Court turning their back on them, and they | ||
did. | ||
I mean, what's going to happen here? | ||
I mean, I don't have that kind of faith. | ||
You know, there's a lot of people, I think, that feel like you. | ||
And, frankly, it's an opportunity. | ||
You know, even if Mike Pence Doesn't do the right thing, decides he's not going to uphold the law today, and decides he's going... | ||
I don't know why he wouldn't do this on January 6th. | ||
It would just be an outright act of betrayal. | ||
But if he's going to make these moves, I'm almost glad that it's happening now in 2020 | ||
and not after he uses Trump's name to get elected president in 2024. | ||
If he's gonna stab us in the back, if he's gonna be the modern day Brutus | ||
to Trump's Julius Caesar, I'm glad we're gonna see it today. | ||
I'm glad we're gonna see it in about two weeks on January 6th. | ||
And I'm glad that he's not hiding it and being duplicitous any longer. | ||
Now that said, Vice President Pence, your staff, if anybody's watching, do the right thing. | ||
This is not a complicated ask. | ||
We're asking you to uphold the law. | ||
We're not asking you to break the law. | ||
We're not asking you to interpret the law in a different way. | ||
We're not asking you to tear asunder the Constitution and rip apart the fabric of our foundation. | ||
No, none of that. No, we're asking you to uphold the law, to do your job, to do the job of every vice president since the first vice president. | ||
This isn't that complicated. | ||
And if you don't do it, it speaks immeasurable about your character. | ||
And especially if you then stab us in the back twice on January 6th, your political career is over, dude. | ||
I don't know how to tell you this. | ||
And I don't know why more of these Republicans don't understand. | ||
I'm not going away. | ||
Alex Jones is not going away. | ||
You're going to have to kill me with a COVID vaccine or put me in a COVID camp to make me go away. | ||
We're not going to get out of your hair. | ||
This is your life now. | ||
Welcome back to this final InfoWars broadcast before the holiday weekend. | ||
I am Tom Pafford, filling in for Owen Schroyer, and we are taking your calls for the balance of this Wednesday broadcast as we wait and we hope and we pray that our Vice President Michael Pence will do the right thing. | ||
If you'd like to call in, that number one more time is 877-789-2539. | ||
877-789-2539. | ||
Let's see who has been holding the longest. | ||
It looks like that would be Dennis in Kentucky. | ||
Dennis in Kentucky, welcome to the War Room, my friend. | ||
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How you doing, Mr. Pappert? | |
I'm doing just fine. | ||
So now tell me, and I feel like I may have missed something, but you wanted to talk about the police officer that told Owen to be cool. | ||
So tell me what's going on. | ||
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Okay, so we had a police officer call into the War Room yesterday to calm Owen down. | |
And told him to keep the faith. | ||
You know, everything's gonna work out just fine. | ||
I understand that. | ||
Well, here's the thing about that. | ||
Instead of, I know you've been talking about this Pence card. | ||
I want to pull out the police card. | ||
I want the local police and the state police to go arrest all these politicians. | ||
They need to be arrested. | ||
Bottom line, this is the difference between the public doing it and it's being, that's right, a citizen's arrest. | ||
This is how you stop a civil war. | ||
I need the police officers to go arrest these politicians under suspicion of being a foreign agent. | ||
Look at all the people that's coming out taking Chinese money. | ||
Well, you know, when you've got police officers, I think you might be onto something here. | ||
And I mean, obviously, in some of these cases, it seems as though the law may have been broken. | ||
I'm not a cop. I can't make that determination. | ||
But they should be out there investigating it. | ||
But, you know, it's not even just that. | ||
In Maricopa County, Arizona, we have the county government, the county supervisors, whatever they're called, they're refusing to comply with a legal and lawful subpoena from the Arizona State Senate. | ||
That's insane. | ||
Normally, if you don't comply with a subpoena like that, and you're within the state, the local police are going to arrest you. | ||
They will seize the equipment. | ||
And that's what needs to happen. | ||
You're right. I mean, we need to stop having a non-active police force in this country. | ||
When there's a crime, you can investigate that crime. | ||
We need law and order in this country. | ||
And maybe that's a big way for it to start. | ||
is at the grassroots local level in small town America for sheriffs and for Police officers to start enforcing the law again. | ||
And again, you know, I'm not calling for political arrests or anything insane, but when you have a government body refusing to comply with a legal lawful subpoena from another government body, if I don't comply with the government, I get arrested. If you don't comply with the government, you get arrested. | ||
How come it doesn't extend? I don't know. | ||
Maybe it will. Thank you so much for your call, Dennis, and... | ||
I do want to add one thing about the kind of trust the plan thing. | ||
And if anybody is asking you to trust the plan right now, you need to turn them off. | ||
You need to turn that person all the way off. | ||
Remove them from your life. | ||
Because there is no plan. | ||
If there was a plan, it would have been apparent by now, okay? | ||
We are like two weeks out from one of the most devastating days potentially in American history. | ||
Even if Trump wins on January 6th, I mean, regardless of what happens with this election, whether they get their Chinese puppet or whether we get another four years of America first, there is going to be so much blowback from the globalists for what we've done over the past few years. | ||
So there's nobody who's going to rescue you. | ||
There is no caped superhero. | ||
The closest thing we have is Trump, and he's in the fight for his life, and we need to do everything we can to help him, not sit back and hope that somebody else is going to come to the rescue. | ||
We have to come to the rescue peacefully, legally, lawfully, politically, in the courts, in the courts of public opinion, in the courts of the phone call where you burn up the phone lines until the people listen to the will of the people. | ||
I think that is very, very, very important. | ||
Well worth our time. | ||
So we're gonna keep taking your calls for the balance of this broadcast here. | ||
Let's go to who has been holding the longest? | ||
Ah, Arizona! Paul in Arizona. | ||
I may move there after all this is done. | ||
I've spent so much time trying to uncover the fraud in that state. | ||
Paul wants to talk about, he's got some allegations about Joe Biden hiring DEFCON to hack the election. | ||
Paul in Arizona, welcome to the war room, my friend. | ||
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God bless you. This is true. | |
Ladies and gentlemen, mark this point in time and research everything I'm telling you. | ||
All truth, nothing true. Help me God. | ||
We've already reported it to military intelligence. | ||
They're moving on this. Joe Biden and Obama hired Jake Braun and Jeff Moss, the founders of DEFCON, years ago to win the election for eight years, and they were overwhelmed at 2016. | ||
Now, Jake Braun, let's just do this like we're in court. | ||
Jake Braun was definitely hired by Joe Biden, 100%. | ||
DEF CON had 30,000 people in 2019 in Las Vegas, and they got themselves jobs as campaigns to work in all of America. | ||
We have 12 that want to come forward, but the president needs to grant some immunity. | ||
The mastermind behind this, ladies and gentlemen, I've seen and I'm a witness, and I will testify, is Joseph Kofor Black. | ||
Joseph Kofor Black. | ||
28 years with the CIA during the 9-1-1 situation. | ||
He's now director for Burisma. | ||
He's personal friends with Joe Biden and Hunter Biden and Nancy Pelosi. | ||
They've all invested in Burisma, and they go to the casinos all the time. | ||
DEFCON needs to be shut down, and this is a national security situation. | ||
It's a criminal prosecution, nothing to do with courts pushing papers and people voting for electoral colleges. | ||
Jeff Moss is actually—the Lord is my witness—Jeff Moss is Bill Gates' son. | ||
He resides in Austria at Globesec, G-L-O-B-S-E-C. My dad was a Hungarian intelligence. | ||
I've been working on this 11 years. | ||
I was there. I shook James Clapper's hand. | ||
What they did was raise cyber spies. | ||
We're surrounded by thousands of little hackers. | ||
Now, we want the President of the United States to order military and investigation using Cybercom. | ||
We talked to Cyber Command. | ||
They're already working on it. It's a criminal takeover, and that's why he was so confident that they had us. | ||
Ladies and gentlemen, that is what happened, and they will be prosecuted. | ||
Hey Bill, Bill Gates, we know who his son is now. | ||
And what they did is they set up DEF CON, B-E-F-C-O-N, to create cyber hackers. | ||
And they thought for sure that after 2016 that Trump wouldn't be in there. | ||
Obama, they're a national security risk because what they did is they had DEF CON conventions in China. | ||
We're running low on time, and I have so many questions. | ||
You've called into the war room before, right? | ||
You called in about a month ago talking about similar things, correct? | ||
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Yes, sir. The problem is that nobody believed it, and it's real. | |
It's for real? Well, no, I... I think that you know too much to be making this up. | ||
You sound like somebody who, you sound like me, you sound like you've been buried in this for a very long time now. | ||
Feel free to reach out to us if you want to do it via ProtonMail, nationalfile at protonmail.com or I'm at tom at nationalfile.com. | ||
I mean, I can't verify everything you're saying today, but I do know that what you were saying a month or so ago, I think it was Harrison Smith guest hosting at the time. | ||
I mean, National File has been knees deep in Arizona, and a lot of what you said we wound up finding out independently verifying, and I'm just sitting there thinking, I heard this somewhere before. | ||
Where did I hear this? And I think it was you. | ||
And I'm guessing you're not doing a lot of public-facing stuff, Paul, in Arizona. | ||
But please, please do get in contact with me because I think I want to learn more. | ||
I want to report on this. And you're obviously in a state where a lot of insane things go down. | ||
What else can you tell us in 30 seconds or less? | ||
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Yes, sir. I beg you and the people of InfoWars to research this. | |
We already gave it to—the politicians aren't doing things, so we call it naval intelligence and cyber command. | ||
And they're working on it. | ||
Gina Haskell is a rat because, listen, Joseph Copper Black, he's dangerous as hell. | ||
He's been running the deep state. | ||
He started Black Hat. | ||
And so, President Trump, dear President Trump, we love you. | ||
Get rid of Haskell. | ||
Start your own intelligence team. | ||
Prosecute them. They're criminals. God bless you. | ||
Great call. Welcome back to this final segment of The War Room. | ||
I'm Tom Pappert filling in for Owen Schroyer. | ||
People just text me and tell me that I don't plug myself enough. | ||
You can follow me at RealTomPappert on Twitter and at TomPappert on Parler. | ||
I don't know. You can find me on all these platforms if you really want to. | ||
We are taking your phone calls, and I always do this, and I apologize to the callers that I get to later when I guest host. | ||
You always get much less time than the people earlier, but we've got quite a few people lined up. | ||
I want to give everybody about 90 seconds, and then we will keep trucking along, and we will try to give everybody a chance to talk. | ||
Let's go to Alyssa, who is in Houston, wants to discuss how to get the election to go in Trump's favor without requiring martial law. | ||
Alyssa, you are on the war room. | ||
Welcome. Okay, hey. | ||
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So, under the Constitution, we the people choose who lives in the White House, and Biden is definitely not authorized to live there. | |
Under Jennifer Ellis' legal theory, for the Constitution, the state legislatures have inherent ability to take back the power over voting procedures that they had delegated to the county clerks, especially if the clerks are abusing it. | ||
She says they can do that anytime. | ||
By extension, we the people have inherent ability to take back our power over vote procedures from our legislatures in state and federal states. | ||
Especially if this whole thing just does not smell right. | ||
I mean, we're just going to swarm by and let them know that particularly their refusal to acknowledge our demands, let the truth be exposed. | ||
To me, that signals that they're letting us know they don't work for us anymore. | ||
Someone else chooses them and someone else pays their salaries. | ||
That's not acceptable to the people. | ||
That's exactly right. So what's the mechanism? | ||
Is it a referendum? | ||
I know every state has a referendum. | ||
Do we need to start doing that? | ||
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I think it could work. Well, I mean, under the Constitution, the people who elect the president are a majority of us, and we've discussed it among ourselves and found out that we think Biden probably only got about 10% of the votes. | |
I mean, his rallies were empty. | ||
Winning candidates always generates some public presence and support, but this is so empty. | ||
Even losing candidates have some. | ||
Obama had a lot. | ||
Trump has a lot. Biden, nobody. | ||
It's more than bizarre. | ||
You've got to believe your eyes and not their lies. | ||
Okay, so this is not going to be a violent demonstration. | ||
It's basically an administrative task. | ||
The military already announced that they have no part of deciding elections. | ||
That's us. We do that. | ||
So we're going to swarm by in person and assume our authority over those, you know, the power to recognize the votes because we know how we voted. | ||
In China, people are not allowed to stand in public and discuss politics, even with each other. | ||
They lack the ability to survey themselves, but we do not. | ||
I mean, I agree with your analysis. | ||
I hope we can do it. And I love that you're calling for people to take peaceful and legal and lawful action themselves. | ||
That's What it's all about. | ||
We cannot wait for a superhero. | ||
As much as I wish there was one who could come and swoop down and fix this, these state legislatures, if they want to be the superheroes, please. | ||
And maybe Arizona, that might be happening there and in Georgia. | ||
But I agree. | ||
We the people need to stand up legally, lawfully, peacefully. | ||
We're not calling for violence. | ||
Never would. I'm a peaceful person. | ||
But we need to make it very, very clear that this is not acceptable | ||
and that this is not going to be how we run our country going forward. | ||
I agree completely. | ||
Great call, Alyssa. | ||
All right, let's go to Kent in Virginia, who says he doesn't think Mike Pence | ||
will make the right decision. | ||
I don't know what possibly could have given you that idea. | ||
I tend to agree. | ||
I think that Pence today is going to make the wrong decision. | ||
Hopefully on the 6th, he's gonna get so much blowback between now and then | ||
that he's gonna make the right one. | ||
We'll see, though. Michael, you've got five hours to prove me wrong. | ||
So, all right, Kent, what do you think? | ||
What is your analysis of Mike Pence? | ||
Did we lose Kent in Virginia? | ||
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Are you here, Kent? Oh, oh, hi. | |
This is Terrence. | ||
Terrence, by the way. | ||
Oh, Terrence. I apologize. | ||
I've got Kent written down. | ||
You know, cross wires in the studio. | ||
Terence, welcome, my friend. | ||
Tell me your analysis. | ||
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Mike, I think I don't trust Mike Pence at all. | |
For starters, he is an establishment. | ||
Think about it. | ||
He helped get Mike Flynn fired. | ||
That was during a pizza game scandal. | ||
I mean, I don't disagree. | ||
I think that, I mean, here's what, I mean, and I kind of said this since 16, since they picked Pence, that, oh, so they're going to do what they did with Bush and Reagan, is they're going to build up this guy to be the successor to Trump, and then the successor is not going to be the successor to Trump. | ||
Bush was not Reagan's third term. | ||
Bush was Bush's first term when you had the CIA back in office. | ||
And so I think you're right. | ||
And so the one good thing here is I hope that... | ||
I mean, if Pence proves us wrong, if Pence stabs us all in the back collectively, like Brutus all those years ago, then he's not going to be president. | ||
He's not going to get to be anointed president with Nikki Haley as his VP in four years. | ||
So that is the... | ||
Silver lining here is his political career is over if he's as bad as some of us have worried that he is. | ||
And I'm not saying anything violent. | ||
I'm just saying, look, there's 74 million minimum, probably closer to 80 million people out there who are going to remember when they, in four years, they're going to feel that thing in their back, that bleeding wound that never healed over when Pence stabbed Trump in the back. | ||
And they're not going to vote for him. | ||
They're not going to vote for anybody associated with him if he makes the wrong decision. | ||
Pence, we're still counting on you. | ||
I'm not counting you out. Not till midnight. | ||
Not till the 6th. Brett in Alabama wants to talk about what is going to happen until the 20th. | ||
And thank you so much for your call, Terrence. | ||
I agree. I hope we're wrong, though. | ||
But Brett in Alabama, you are on the war room, my friend. | ||
What is going to happen between now and the 20th? | ||
Because if you've got some Nostradamus powers, I want them. | ||
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No, Tom. Can you hear me okay? | |
I can. I can hear you fine, brother. | ||
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Excellent. I just want to say thank you for everything National File and Infowars does. | |
You'll give us a voice to people that don't really have one. | ||
Well, thank you, man. | ||
Without you, we wouldn't exist. | ||
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Go ahead. Well, what I was thinking about kind of going forward is if all of our elected officials and the courts, you know, if they fail in their constitutional obligation to provide a righteous outcome to our elections, to thoroughly investigate Any of these allegations of fraud, basically to restore faith for the people in this process, I mean, that's as much a constitutional violation as any other action. | |
And for each and every system to continue to fail, I feel like at that point the military has an obligation to act because that's a domestic threat to our republic. | ||
To inaugurate Joe Biden is to I agree. | ||
Nothing is sacred anymore. | ||
And so I feel like, you know, it's kind of whatever it takes. | ||
You know, I think, I mean, you're right. | ||
There's no arguing with you. | ||
I mean, if they sell out this country to China by electing Xi Jinping, I mean, there's still a future for the United States, but it's not an easy one. | ||
It's not easy to get back to where we were prior to February of this year when the COVID fake news came in. | ||
You know, it's going to be very, very difficult to get back to being in the 1800s when our country wasn't so totalitarian and miserable. | ||
It's going to be a very difficult thing to do. | ||
There's a path forward, but it's not an easy one. | ||
God, we're just, we're like so short on time. | ||
I feel so bad. I'm so sorry to, let's see, to Michael and Jay and my second Michael, who's been on. | ||
I just can't do it. | ||
We'll have to cut you off at the end of the show. | ||
I always feel terrible when that happens. | ||
But you are watching The War Room. | ||
It's brought to you by InfoWarsStore.com. | ||
It's a very good time as you're sitting home. | ||
I hope that you're getting a second to catch your breath to come down from this election news. | ||
Tomorrow, of course, Christmas Eve. | ||
The next day, Christmas Day. | ||
I hope you get some time with your family. | ||
I hope you have some time to reflect on the last year. | ||
And I hope you have some time to check out Infowarsstore.com and think of how your next year can go. | ||
Are we going to continue to live as serfs where we get our $600 and we spend it on DoorDash and we thank Uncle Sam, even though Uncle Sam's now wearing a face mask, we thank him for this pathetic little handout. | ||
Is that going to be our lives? | ||
Or are we going to take our lives and our destinies back at the individual level and truly live the lives that we are destined to as human creatures made in God's image? | ||
So I think it's an exciting time, and I think that that is what I'm going to be doing over this next couple days. | ||
As I work, I'm going to try to take a few minutes off and browse the InfoWarsStore.com website and figure out how I can live a happier, healthier, and more well-rounded 2021, regardless of whether or not they complete this ChaiCon takeover. | ||
You, of course, have been watching the InfoWars War Room. | ||
I am Tom Papert, been filling in for Owen Schroyer, and as he would say, stay classy, InfoWarriors. | ||
We'll be back next week. | ||
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Thanks for watching. | |
Merry Christmas! | ||
Ho, ho, ho, ho! |