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Oh say can you see by the dawn's early light What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
And the home of the brave?
harrison smith
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the War Room.
It's the 28th of July, the year 2020.
My name's Harrison Smith. I'm sitting in for Owen Schroyer.
Thank you so much for being here with us.
What a show I have for you today.
As we speak, Attorney General William Barr is absolutely savaging the Democrats on Capitol Hill.
It's turned out to be one of the most insane...
Capitol Hill extravaganzas I've ever seen.
The insanity of the Democrats, the calm, cool demeanor of the Republicans.
It's all on full display for everybody to see.
I've gathered some of the most explosive and important clips that have happened so far.
But the hearings continue as we speak and we'll bring you any updates that come out of that.
Of course, also the big story for today is that Twitter has...
Removed a video of a frontline doctor talking about the effectiveness of hydrochloroquine.
Doing so in a draconian way that includes actually suspending Donald Trump Jr.'s Twitter account and deleting the video outright as soon as Donald Trump, the president, retweeted it.
So I'll break all of that down.
Of course, we'll show you the video if they want to silence it.
Well, that's what we're here for.
We will get it out to the masses.
We will give you the link you need to share to bypass their censorship.
We'll go into that, but we'll also go into what some of the other big tech companies are doing to try to censor this and other information.
Everybody, by the way, it's YouTube, it's Twitter, it's Facebook, but it's also places like Squarespace, and we'll show you that as well.
So we'll break all that down and also why it's happening, why in particular this clip is coming under such fire from big tech.
Really, obviously, the big takeaway from this is that our companies, American companies, serve unelected foreign masters.
It's pretty much as simple as that.
America not even technically in the World Health Organization anymore.
But regardless, they're unelected.
We have no say over who they are or how they carry out their business.
And yet, the companies that control what Americans are allowed to say, the big tech companies that have an absolute stranglehold on our ability to discuss issues openly and to a wide audience, Are at the behest of not the American people, not the American government, but foreign, unelected political actors.
It's really incredible and to me is the greatest example yet of why we need to do something to rein in these big tech companies, whether that's nationalize them, whether that's fine them, whether that's arrest their leaders.
I'm open to all options and we'll discuss them here.
This is The War Room. I'm Harrison Smith.
Don't go anywhere, folks. The show starts in one minute.
Welcome to the War Room, ladies and gentlemen.
Infowars.com, band.video.
That's how you share the link. Let's get this information out there.
My name's Harrison Smith. I'm sitting in for Owen Schroeder today, and I will be tomorrow as well.
Today, I will welcome in studio Joel Skousen, who of course is the author of Strategic Relocation, as well as a number of other books about the American government and How to Defend Your Freedom.
When it is most threatened, very excited to talk to him.
Very, very excited to talk to him, actually, about several different topics that I think all of our audience will enjoy.
I'll also have Joey Gibson.
On the line later in the show, we'll be discussing his efforts to try to prevent the Oregon state government from imprisoning a grandmother for trying to open her pet grooming business.
Just, I mean, just the layers of insanity under which we now operate is truly astonishing, but here we are.
And of course, in the third hour, I will be continuing my series on Jonestown.
I got a lot of good feedback last show that I hosted.
I wasn't sure at first, but the people have spoken, so I really put my nose to the grindstone.
And we'll do two more installments of the Jonestown series the last hour of today, and then we'll finish it off tomorrow.
So today we'll be discussing some of the political machinations of the Jonestown cult before they ever went to Guyana.
And then tomorrow we will be discussing the conspiracy theories about Jonestown.
Was the CIA involved?
Well, yes, they were.
We'll break all of that down tomorrow.
But first I want to start with, of course, what is clearly one of the most important videos on Twitter at this moment.
Oh, I'm sorry. It was until Twitter absolutely deleted the entire thing.
We'll get into the censorship, the measures that are being taken in just a second.
But first, here it is.
Here's a physician speaking on the steps of the Capitol about the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine.
dr stella immanuel
What I'm upset is that I see people that cannot breathe.
I see parents walk in.
I see diabetics sitting in my office knowing that this is a death sentence and they can't breathe.
And I hug them and I tell them, it's gonna be okay, you're gonna leave.
And we treat them and they leave.
None has died.
So if some fake science, some person sponsored by all these fake pharma companies comes out and says, oh, we've done studies and they found out that it doesn't work, I can tell you categorically it's fake science.
I want to know who is sponsoring that study.
I want to know who is behind it.
Because there is no way I can treat 350 patients and counting and nobody is dead and they all did better.
And then you're going to tell me that you treated 20 people, 40 people and it didn't work.
I'm a true testimony.
So I came here to Washington, D.C. to tell America, nobody needs to get sick.
This virus has a cure.
It is called hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and zitromax.
unidentified
Recognizes Mr.
harrison smith
Johnson. That is the absolute truth.
And we know it well. We know it from a great number of sources.
But that video. It's gone.
It's been deleted. They have done so at the behest of organizations like the World Health Organization.
They have decided that they're going to bow to, they will listen to, they will censor American voices at the behest of unelected international organizations that are run by people that we don't know.
We don't know what their agenda is.
Of course, the World Health Organization just came out and said, we're not even going to bother investigating the Wuhan lab.
They're just not even going to bother doing it.
They don't necessarily have the best track record, especially when it comes to coronavirus.
Needless to say...
They should probably not be listened to at all.
If anything, maybe a little advisory note here or there.
But no, instead, they get to determine what you, an American, are allowed to say on the internet.
It's really incredible.
It's really shocking. And it's incredibly dangerous for the future of free speech and the future of health in general.
But here is the major issue.
You have to put yourself in the mindset of these evil globalist actors.
You have this incredible plan.
It's going to wrap everything up.
You have a plan that will benefit you politically.
It'll benefit you by locking people in their homes, by making people terrified.
It will give you an excuse that you've been waiting for to enact all sorts of totalitarian or authoritarian measures in order to totally dominate the United States.
And a lot of work has gone into this.
A lot of planning has gone into it.
We saw event 201. You've had entire meetings with the heads of industries years in advance to lay down exactly how this plan will roll out, how this will contribute to your ability to take over the entire world in an iron grip.
And then, suddenly, unbeknownst to you, here comes a cure.
And it's not just any cure.
It's a simple cure.
It's a cheap cure.
It's a cure that has been used for years, if not decades, to treat everyone, from babies to pregnant women.
It has been known to be safe and effective and basically cure coronavirus at 100%.
That's what we're hearing from the doctors.
So you can imagine... As one of these globalist actors, as one of these world manipulators, this is not a good thing.
This is a stick in your spokes.
You had such a good plan.
You had so many moving parts all falling perfectly into place when suddenly there's a stick in your spokes.
Suddenly the whole thing goes flying because...
There's a simple cure. So of course, you're going to do everything you can to discredit this cure.
And when that doesn't work, you just simply silence the cure.
So here is the lengths to which they're going to censor this information.
Twitter censors Trump by completely removing his tweet for the first time ever.
So they're stepping up the censorship against the President of the United States, doing so, flaunting it basically in his face that they can decide what he is and is not allowed to say.
But it goes farther. Donald Trump Jr.
was actually suspended by Twitter.
For posting that information.
They call it misleading and potentially harmful information about coronavirus.
That's what they're calling it if it goes against the suggestions of the World Health Organization, which has been deemed to be the authority on all things coronavirus despite their track record of failing at that task.
Again, it goes farther. This is from James Todaro.
He's an MD. He says, here's the correspondence from Squarespace as to why they took down the doctor's website.
So these doctors, they're called America's Frontline Doctors.
They had their website hosted through Squarespace.
It has now been removed, and it says, we have determined that you are currently in violation of Section 3.1 of our acceptable use policy regarding activity that's false, fraudulent, inaccurate, or deceiving.
Pursuant to this finding, we have suspended your sight.
Absolutely incredible.
Of course, we know that this is just a lie.
This is just an excuse.
You can post false information and there's no problem.
And I always bring it up, but you have like the History Channel airing Ancient Aliens.
Just total speculation, total lies, essentially.
And no one cares about that, right?
Squarespace or the internet host is not going to take down History Channel's website for spreading false information.
You're allowed to spread false information.
You're just not allowed to go against the globalist narrative.
You are just not allowed to resist being folded into the Borg.
That's what you're not allowed to do, and they simply use this as an excuse.
It's selective enforcement, and it is a total danger to the First Amendment in the United States.
It goes farther again.
This is from IamTory on Twitter.
She says, apparently TED Talks instructed YouTube to block my video of Bill Gates not denying that he's going to chip people.
She tries to upload a 50-second video of Bill Gates basically not denying the accusation that he wants to inject microchips into people.
And TED Talks talks to YouTube, or YouTube just does it on its own volition, says, no, no, no, you're not allowed to put that up.
So we're supposed to listen to Bill Gates.
We're supposed to surrender our sovereignty over to Bill Gates.
We're supposed to worship the ground that Bill Gates walks on.
But if you put up his words that expose his real plan, well, you'll get taken down.
You'll be destroyed. You can't post that.
Of course, Apple, Amazon, Facebook, and Google are preparing to appear at a congressional hearing on Wednesday to perhaps answer to some of these questions.
That'll be Bezos, Zuckerberg, Cook, and Pichai.
They prepare for their big day in Congress.
Hopefully, some of the Republicans in the House of Representatives, hopefully some of the people that we have elected to protect our rights, not just against infringement by the government, that's an important aspect of course, but also from infringement from other actors.
We have to say this over and over again all the time.
The First Amendment, yes, it does limit the government's ability to restrict your free speech, but it also limits other people's ability to destroy your free speech.
It's pretty obvious, right?
Just like the government can't come in and kick down your door without a warrant and steal your stuff and confiscate it for no probable cause, well, they also have to protect you or are supposed to protect you against other actors doing that as well.
The laws that we have, the amendments that we have, the protections that we have under the United States government are supposed to be there to protect the rights of American people against any infringement.
Here we see the infringement running wild and it doesn't look like anybody's really doing anything to stop it.
Hopefully, they'll turn that around.
Attorney General William Barr is currently Daniel in the lion's den.
He's currently facing off against the insane and insanely reckless and dishonest members of the Democratic Party.
It's truly something to behold.
The sheer...
Brazen gaslighting of the Democrats.
Of course, I'm sure you saw the video that Fleck has got of Jerry Nadler saying that Antifa violence in Portland was a myth.
It's imagined it doesn't exist.
Insane, right? It's just incredible what these people either actually believe or are trying to get you to believe.
And I believe he's still there now laying down the law, stomping their lies into the dirt.
But there have been a number of really notable and incredible exchanges earlier today, and I'll show you some of the best ones here.
Let's go to clip number nine.
I liked the title of this.
I can't remember who tweeted it out, but whoever tweeted it out said, if this is how Democrats behave in the halls of Congress, if this is how they treat the Attorney General of the United States, how will they treat you?
And this is really a great example of just the vitriolic Nightmarish inhumanity of the Democrats as they try to bully and abuse their way into greater power.
unidentified
Here it is. Can you think of even one?
I'm not asking about the judge, I'm asking about what you did to reduce the sentence of Roger Stone.
Mr. Attorney General, he threatened the life of a witness.
And you view that as a technicality, Mr.
Attorney General. Is there enough?
Can I answer the question?
Can I have just a few seconds to answer the question?
Sure, I'm asking if there's another time at all the time of the Justice Department.
You won't answer my question, Mr.
Attorney General, and it's unfortunate, and the appearance is that, as you said earlier, Incredible.
harrison smith
I mean, absolutely incredible. Just berating him with questions, the instant he tries to respond, cutting him off, and then going, and you won't answer my question.
And now you won't answer my question.
I mean, these people are liars of the highest degree.
They are deceivers, and their father is Satan, as Jesse Lee Peterson would put it.
Really, really incredible. I mean, that's just the abuse.
That's just the, I don't know, being a jackass, right?
That's just the Democrats being Democrats, I suppose.
But here's where they...
Here's a great example of where they really are just desperate to manipulate and obfuscate the reality to benefit themselves.
I can't believe some of the things I heard coming out of the mouths of some of these so-called representatives today.
Here's Jerry Nadler, the goblin, saying, and this is incredible, literally saying that the riots...
Themselves have been orchestrated by Trump to get footage for his campaign ads.
What? Here he is, Jerry Nadler, being just insane.
unidentified
The department will not use federal law enforcement as a prop in the presidency election campaign.
I just want to close with this thought.
You really can't hide behind legal fictions this time, Mr.
Barr. It's all out in the open, where the people can see what you are doing for themselves.
The president wants footage for his campaign ads, and you appear to be serving it up to him as ordered.
harrison smith
There you go. Yeah, that starts with him asking, do you promise that the Department of Justice won't be used as a prop In his campaign ads.
It's like they're trying to burn down the federal courthouse and these people are stopping them.
If you don't want this obviously beneficial to the President and the Republicans, I mean all this footage, obviously beneficial to the Republicans who are trying to stand up against the insane communists that have infiltrated and now run the Democratic Party.
If you don't want that footage, tell the protesters to go the hell home.
Tell them to stop being reckless and destructive and then you won't get that footage anymore.
You won't get that footage, but no.
Jerry Nadler apparently literally thinks William Barr is deploying federal officers as actors.
Like, is this a conspiracy theory?
Is this a crisis actor conspiracy theory, Jerry Nadler?
You humpty-dumpty-looking fool.
Alright, here's Raskin.
His exchange with William Barr has been some of the most outrageous, almost as outrageous as his face.
Here he is Questioning Barr about the church fire that broke out there in front of the White House broke out there.
That was set by Antifa outside of the White House.
And this is one of those examples of William Barr just having this very deadpan, very...
You know, simple matter-of-fact answer that just decimates all of the hysterics that the Democrats are trying to pour in.
It's clip number 12. Here is Representative Raskin questioning William Barr about the church fire.
unidentified
Something to the effect of the St.
John's Episcopal Church would have been overrun.
No, that was on Sunday night, I believe.
Are you aware that the rector of the church, that the Episcopal Archbishop of Washington, and the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church nationally, along with the Catholic bishop of the Archdiocese of Washington, all denounced this police assault on the civil rights and civil liberties of the people?
Did they do that before or after the fire was put out?
harrison smith
Boom! That's a boom moment if I've ever seen one.
It really is interesting, you know.
If you look at the response from the Episcopalian Diocese there in Washington, D.C., the bishop there, when the church was lit on fire by The Antichrist by the forces of evil that are now taking to our streets.
Her response to that was like two sentences.
It was like, oh, this church got burned with the fires out now.
No worries. Like that was her response to a historic church that every president for the last 200 years has worshipped in.
Yeah, okay, yeah, I was lit on fire, but, like, whatever.
Like, that was her response to that.
Trump goes and says, you're not going to burn down our churches.
You're not going to be able to just...
You know, totally destroy historic buildings with absolute impunity.
And it's like, tweet after, it's like four tweets in a row.
Like, this is not right! You should not be able to use!
It's like, she was literally more angry that Donald Trump stood up and protected the church than she was of people actually trying to burn it down.
Okay? It's incredible.
It truly is. Got a couple more here.
I want to go to this quickly, if we can.
I hadn't heard this one yet, but the crew brought it to my attention.
Here's Representative Johnson.
Talking about A.G. Barr's opening statement, he says it reads like it was written by Alex Jones or Roger Stone.
unidentified
Let's play that clip. Recognizes Mr.
Johnson from Georgia. Thank you, General Barr.
Your opening statement reads like it was written by Alex Jones or Roger Stone.
Do you stand by that statement?
harrison smith
Yes. He's like, if I characterize it this way, will you denounce your own statement you just made?
unidentified
I disagree on a whole lot, but I'm sure we can agree on the fact that President Trump is just a prolific tweeter.
Isn't that correct? Yes, Hank Johnson.
He tweets. And he tweeted many times about the Roger Stone- Who votes for these people?
I don't know how many times he tweeted about it.
Well, many times. And you are aware of them because you said it hurts you from doing your job.
And isn't it true that when prosecutors in the Roger Stone case...
harrison smith
Okay, yeah. They're obsessed about Roger Stone.
They're desperate to try to destroy Roger Stone.
Go ahead and throw Alex Jones in there.
I actually miss Mr.
Barr's, Attorney General Barr's opening statement.
But, I mean, did it sound like Alex Jones and Roger Stone?
I don't know. In the opening statement, did William Barr start screaming and call people like Hank Johnson stupid?
Did he start calling him globalist trash, demons of the highest order?
Did he say they smell like sulfur?
I don't know. I hope it was.
I really, I gotta see that opening statement now.
It must have been good. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
This is The War Room. I'm Harrison Smith, sitting in for Owen Schroer.
Very happy to be welcoming my guest, Joel Skousen.
Of course, he is the author of Strategic Relocation, one of the most popular books on Infowarsstore.com.
You can find his website, joelskousen.com or worldaffairsbrief.com.
Thanks so much for being here with us today.
joel skousen
Great to be with you, Harrison. I've looked forward and admired your work before.
harrison smith
Well, thank you very much. And I was telling you during the break, I'd actually been thinking about this a lot, about strategic relocation, about, you know, maybe I'll do a segment where I teach people what should go in a bug-out bag, or, you know, whether it's better to bug out or bunker down, you know, these sorts of different discussions, and I thought I'll just do it myself, and I thought, why would I try to come up with it myself when we have the expert here in the Infowars family who's done all the research and knows all the information, and this first...
I first started thinking about this because I have friends that have never been political.
They're totally disconnected.
They just don't care about any of it.
And yet, in the last few months, they're buying body armor.
They're buying bug-out bags.
They see something is going on.
Has there been a big resurgence in interest in what you do?
joel skousen
Oh, absolutely. You know, when Trump was elected, for example, my world affairs brief, which is my analysis of the news every week, comes out every Friday, subscriptions were slowly declining after years of rising.
Trump put people to sleep in the sense that people felt, well, he's going to save us now, he's going to drain the swamp, he's going to save America, etc.
And of course, it hasn't happened.
But things didn't really turn around to this COVID-19 crisis yet when people started to realize, boy, this is a very manipulated agenda.
Suddenly, Old subscribers have long since ceased to renew, started to come back, and there's been a steady climb since then.
And then Strategic Relocation, the fourth edition came out, the new fourth edition, all updated in 2020 about the COVID threat and what it does to Liberty, as well as all the...
Wide range of information on strategic relocation, and it started selling like hotcakes and no advertising, just word of mouth, selling 70 copies a day on my website.
And put it on Amazon on July 3rd, sold 30 copies, and then they took it down.
Ah, of course. They took the listing down.
You know, what did you do? What did we do?
And they started to give us a stream of little excuses.
Oh, because you didn't dot this I or this T. Right.
And this and that, and...
And then they just stopped answering the emails and it went on for three weeks and pretty soon I started to get stronger in my demands and they finally put a whole team on it.
And I said, it didn't take a whole team to put up a listing that was already on your website.
You just got to put it back up again.
harrison smith
Right. And it's not like what you're saying is dangerous?
joel skousen
It's right. I mean, this isn't banned.
This isn't hate speech.
Right. You know, and everything.
And finally, they put it back up and sales have been booming.
But it's a very popular book.
harrison smith
Stood up against Amazon and have some measure of success.
That's very rare, I think, when standing up against these big tech companies.
So if I were my friend, right, that wasn't really interested in any of this before, but they start seeing the wheels turning and they start going, okay, I might need a plan here.
here. I might need some sort of strategy to either get out of town quickly or you know communicate when all of the electronics maybe go down something like that. What would you say is a good starting point? What's like the most basic here's what you need to know or here's what you need to do for the worst-case scenario if it were to happen tomorrow? Well in the first place you have to really look at strategically relocating because too many people are in vulnerable big cities.
joel skousen
As we know from the COVID-19, where's the impact of all the mandates?
It's on the cities. That's where the enforcement is.
That's where the police, that's where the snitching on people is happening.
It doesn't happen in rural America.
I mean, I'm in... A rural part of Utah, and there's no masks, and there's no demands for this and that.
Everything's going on normal, except for the public schools being shut down, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
But the next thing they need to know besides strategic...
And it isn't easy. Everybody can't just strategically relocate.
A lot of people are tied to the jobs, which are in the big cities.
So I tell people in the book, I said, here are the compromises you can make.
You can get to the periphery of the metropolitan area so that you're not...
In the center trying to get out among a mass of people.
You're on the periphery. You can be the first one out.
You can have a retreat.
I talk to people about how you devise that, how to get a bug-out bag, and how to provide the essentials.
And one of the most important things, of course, is what you have to stockpile in a vehicle.
People don't think about it.
I need extra fuel in a vehicle so that I don't run out.
You're not going to jump on a freeway in a Katrina situation without gridlock.
And so I teach people how to get out around the beltways that are surrounding every major city.
You've got to find those overpasses or underpasses.
In the beltway that doesn't have an entrance or an exit to the freeway.
Right. Then they can't get clogged.
You just zip on past.
And you've got to have spare fuel.
You've got to have spare oil.
And you've got to have, you know, a small toolkit so that you can manage, you know, any minor breakdowns and things.
I always carry, for example, some starting fluid in there in case you have a flooded carburetor or something or Our injectors aren't working and I need to give it a shot in things.
You need some spare parts.
Fan belts, for example. I carry a spare alternator in mine.
I carry a spare water pump.
I carry a spare fuel pump.
A lot of these modern cars have a submerged fuel pump in the tank and if it goes out, you're dead in the water.
It's a relatively easy thing.
Open up the fuel tank and pop in a new...
So those kind of essential things are important to get going.
And a lot of people need to think also about stockpiling fuel halfway point.
If you're going to go a long distance, you may have a plan, but there may not be any gas stations open.
And you need to stockpile fuel with a friend or a relative that's somewhere nearby.
And those kinds of things go a long way.
You know, besides having, you know, a few spare clothes, food and water and other things to put in a bug-up bag.
A lot of people don't think of the mechanics of keeping your car running and going that far and keeping enough spare fuel.
harrison smith
Yeah, it seems like almost more important than what you have is what you know.
Because, you know, I'm not very well versed in the way cars operate.
I wish I was. It's one of the things that I regret not getting into, you know, earlier.
joel skousen
And you can't hard to repair modern cars.
They're so complex, electronic, you've got to have these special diagnostic tools.
And that's why it's important for people not only to learn a little bit, but get a car that you can repair, you know, that's got basic engine parts and other things and that you can diagnose fairly easily without a...
And there are some, you know, OBD readers, you know, that you can read the computer things, but most of that will tell you, you know, to go get a sophisticated part.
harrison smith
Right, right. And yeah, it seems like the older the car is, the more simple it is.
I know my dad's talked about getting kickstart motorcycles, so you don't even have to worry about having a spark plug in case there's some sort of EMP situation or something.
Of course, this all relies on having the information as to how this might take place.
You know, I was in Houston during Katrina and Hurricane Ike right after that.
And I remember people taking 20 hours just to get to Austin, Texas, which is a little less than three hours away normally.
And we'd have neighbors who just avoided the freeway and got there in five hours rather than 20.
But it was really a great example of mass panic and sort of how everything can suddenly become gridlocked and shut down.
If you're not prepared for that, if you don't have alternative paths to take, you'll be stuck in that just the same.
I always liked my friend's idea.
As soon as they started coming out with drones and things, he's like, man, I've got to get a flying machine.
He's like, if I just had a flying machine, I could just go up and over and down.
I wouldn't have to worry about any of the gridlock or anything like that.
joel skousen
Speaking of that, though, I have recommended several of my consulting clients who are young and capable of doing it to get a pilot's license.
Right. Because there's nothing like being able to go from an uncontrolled airport, no tower, they can't stop you from taking off.
Right. If they shut down the airspace, just take off and overfly the roadblocks, overfly the crowds and get out.
And there's been several that have taken my advice and gotten a pilot's license and they're a lot more secure because of it.
harrison smith
Yeah, absolutely. And it's amazing.
My grandfather had a small plane, and you always think of airplanes or flights as being very controlled and rigorous, but it's like, no, you can just go out and fly wherever you want, go wherever you want, and come back and land, and nobody knows.
joel skousen
It's very free. Most people don't realize that most small community airports don't have a tower or an uncontrolled airspace, and that you can take off and fly to another uncontrolled airport without ever talking to...
FAA Center or anyone else.
harrison smith
Yeah, especially if it's a dire situation and those things maybe not operating the way that they normally do.
That's right. Strategic Relocation.
That's the book where all of this knowledge is compacted.
My guest is Joel Skousen.
JoelSkousen.com. WorldAffairsBrief.com.
We will be back on the other side to talk a little bit more about maybe what goes in your bug-out bag, maybe different strategies, and what we can expect the big danger to be.
Will it be an AMP? Will it be More political agitation and perhaps a Civil War scenario.
We'll get into all that and more on the other side.
Don't go anywhere, folks. It's The War Room.
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Welcome back, folks. It's the War Room.
I'm Harrison Smith. I'm here with Joel Skousen, of course, author of Strategic Relocation.
You can find his website, joelskousen.com or worldaffairsbrief.com.
We discussed a lot of things during the break here.
I'm wondering where to begin.
I guess there's sort of multiple options as to how a situation would arise where strategic relocation would be a necessity.
And right now we're seeing a lot of focus on the riots, the social unrest, and you have some great ways to deal with that.
But then also at the same time, it's not on the forefront, it's not on the front pages or the headlines, but there's a lot of geopolitical machinations going on right now.
A lot of friction with China, even between China and Russia, Turkey, Libya.
I mean, there's lots of stuff going on under the scenes that may spiral out and end up in some sort of nuclear exchange or EMP blast, some sort of wider geopolitical warfare that...
You know, would be even more dangerous than some of the social unrest.
What do you see as sort of the most likely event to arise in the near future?
joel skousen
Well, in the near future, the most likely threat is going to be run into Black Lives Matter violence.
And this is not about Black Lives Matter or racism at all.
It's really about globalist funding, radical criminals and communist oriented groups such as the left wing and Antifa and the revolutionary communist party in the United States and Chicago and other areas that are actually going out there and doing the violence.
One of the most drastic challenges that we're facing is driving down the street and all of a sudden having an Antifa protest descend upon your vehicle and try to pull you out of the vehicle or stop you or bash the windows and other things where you just can't passively react and you can't back up, you can't get out, so what do you do?
So in the World Affairs Brief which comes out every Friday, we have a preparation tip.
My son, structural engineer, put out this tip about how to deal with people who want to attack your car.
And he was researching on the internet and found that not only was there pepper spray and mace and other types of things, which you have to be careful of, because if you spray that into the wind, it's going to get back.
You have to open the window to spray that to do that.
And some alternatives, if you don't have it, one is wasp spray.
Wasp spray will go out 20 or 30 feet and get them at a distance and things, and it's very, very toxic.
But another one that is very interesting is skunk spray.
Really? When you have these people, you know, attacking a truck and things and breaking your windows and things, I'll tell you, you spray some skunk spray around and they just move away and they don't want to approach your truck anymore.
I mean, literally, and it's available on there.
That's a great idea. Whereas, you know, a pepper spray will get the people directly, but you put a little skunk spray around and they're gone.
Yeah. They just don't want to mess with it.
harrison smith
And that's not, you know, some sort of projection.
We saw it here in Austin where the guy got a gun pulled on him and it turned out, you know, he fired back and the protester who originally pulled the gun ended up dead.
But, you know, if you can avoid that situation at all costs because you don't know how legally that will be, you don't want to go to jail for life because you're scared.
joel skousen
You don't want to use a lethal one if you can't, especially when judges don't want to.
Prosecute. Right, right.
Letting these people out without bail even after they arrest them.
But another... This is similar to another strategy in a long-term social unrest such as pillaging, which happens under an EMP strike.
Right. When there's no electricity and people start to riot and pillage after three days.
You know, if they're coming down your street and going through house to house and pillaging, this is not something you want to pull out a gun and start to defend yourself against overwhelming numbers that can overwhelm you.
harrison smith
That may be armed as well.
joel skousen
You want to get out of the way. And that's the...
Yeah.
Yeah. Steal a few things, etc. Have all the real valuable stuff.
But you're safe. You have your weapons.
You have your food, supplies, and other things in a concealed safe room so you can simply get out of the way.
Right. That's part of the strategy of not making yourself a target, not confronting when you don't have to.
Always want to have a strategy of being able to get out of the way if you have to.
That's the better part of wisdom, confronting social unrest.
harrison smith
It's all about, I guess, sort of having a plan in place, whether it's for encountering protesters on the street or encountering looters coming down your block.
By the time you're there, it's too late to come up with a plan.
You might come up with something incorrect.
So it's all about sort of preparation, right?
Have already...
Thought about it and come up with at least some sort of plan where when it does happen, you're not completely unprepared.
joel skousen
That's right. And you have to train your family to do that.
Train the family to know what happens if there, for example, is a nuclear war, an EMP strike.
Here's the scenario I think is going to happen.
My analysis in the World Affairs brief is that the EMP strike can only be done by Russia and China because it takes six to eight nuclear weapons detonated at high altitude over a nation to take down the entire grid.
Forget about North Korea or Iran doing that.
They don't have that kind of mass capability.
But even Russia and China know that that will trigger a nuclear retaliation because the U.S. military can track where those nuclear weapons came from and who launched them and will retaliate.
So Russian and Chinese nuclear documents use a follow-up in EMP, which they will use to begin to soften up a country and make sure that there's no warning goes out.
Hit with an EMP strike and then within 10-15 minutes after that you hit with a preemptive nuclear strike against military forces only.
Right. Not cities. They don't want to destroy the western economies.
They want to blackmail you into submission by decapitating the military so that you appear to be vulnerable.
They don't understand that our globalists actually want that first strike.
They can come out of their bunkers and now say that our military is decapitated.
We have to join in a militarized global government in order to prosecute the war.
And suddenly we get talked into the massive, the crisis of all crises, the false flag of all false flags, a bench is gets us into a militarized global government.
And that's how we lose our freedom.
And I think this COVID-19 false pandemic or exaggerated pandemic is being exaggerated to keep and being prolonged and prolonged to get people used to taking orders by dictate through emergency orders and getting people to say yes, salute and be patriotic.
you know, obey the dictates.
Right. I think they're prepping us for something larger.
But the real takedown of America happens in World War III. That's probably coming toward the latter part of this decade when Russia and China are ready.
But this is a preparation, and we need to be fighting this exaggerated pandemic to preserve our liberty and to resist emergency orders so that when the big one comes, that we've still got the freedom allowed to be able to say, all right, we knew this was coming.
You guys pulled this off.
You let that first strike fall.
You didn't intercept those missiles.
Why not? Right.
We want accountability. Right.
harrison smith
Yeah, and have the plan in place to set into action as soon as that occurs because, again, you know, even the communications, you have to have plans and go, all right, you live on that side of town, I live on this side of town, but if something happens, we're going to meet.
joel skousen
And you've got to know radios, you know.
Right. Cell phones won't be operating in an EMP environment.
harrison smith
Right. And with our modern population, that means most people will just sit quietly and have no idea what's going on.
You need to communicate.
joel skousen
You need to go what's going on around the world because radio and television stations will be shut down.
So having some knowledge is a shortwave.
You can listen to broadcast in Europe and find out what's been happening in the U.S. Even if nothing's broadcasting in the U.S. So we're going to talk a little bit about the political situation in the next segment.
harrison smith
But just to... I guess the way I always think about the idea of strategic relocation or of bugging out, whatever it is, is like you want to have a short-term and then a long-term plan.
Is that a good place to kind of start?
joel skousen
Absolutely. You know, if you made the compromise to stay within the cities with a retreat, You've got to get to the retreat, but if it's not in an area where you can grow, and by the way, forget about trying to grow a garden in a suburban environment in a situation with no food and things.
Those tomatoes are going to be picked clean before they're even ripe.
harrison smith
Forget the squirrels. It'll be the riders.
joel skousen
You've got to have a retreat that's far enough away in rural countries to be able to grow without pillaging and things in the last days.
So that's the long-term scenario.
Short-term is get to a place, have stockpiled food, water, and fuel, and other things that are necessary.
But for the long term, you've got to be in growable areas.
So sometimes retreats go into the mountains where they're safe, but you can't grow.
So long-term you've got to have, sometimes you can pool resources to do that with family, friends, etc.
Have a farm piece of property that you can operate.
That's very good to talk about the short-term immediate response and then what do we do if this lasts and we have famine.
harrison smith
Right. And you have mobs in the street who are hungry, and then you have probably the government trying to stop you from supporting yourself and saying, oh, everybody else needs what you have, so we're going to come take it from you.
It's scary stuff to think about, but it's like you can't be frightened away from thinking about it because you got to think about it now because these are situations that may very well happen in the very near future.
If you haven't thought about it, then you're going to be completely unprepared.
So of course, the book again is Strategic Relocation.
You have several other books as well for sale on Infowarsstore.com, joelskousen.com, worldaffairsbrief.com.
So folks, once the bomb goes off, once the society breaks down, it's going to be too You're going to go and find...
The internet doesn't even connect for you to go buy this book.
So go buy the book now. Go make the purchase now.
Study up. Make your preparations.
So if and when...
You know, some sort of dire situation arises.
You're not scrabbling, looking for answers when it's already too late.
So we'll be back on the other side of the second hour of The War Room.
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Alright folks, it's the second hour of The War Room.
I'm here with Joel Skousen.
I'm Harrison Smith.
I'm sitting in for Owen Schroer today.
JoelSkousen.com, WorldAffairsBrief.com.
The book Strategic Relocation and many of his other publications are available on InfoWarsStore.com.
We want to get into the political situation.
Now we were talking a little during the break.
I tend to subscribe to the Alex Jones theory that essentially what they're going to do is cheap to win the election.
They're going to openly cheat.
They're going to do it pretty blatantly.
But any attempt to rectify this, any attempt for Trump to say, oh, this isn't legitimate, the vote in mailing is not right.
They're already laying the groundwork and saying we'll need to militarily remove President Trump when he resists leaving the White House.
But you see a little bit different situation in our future.
joel skousen
Is that right?
Yes.
I think that because Donald Trump has gone along with the virus, has played their game, he's been weakened by that, he's being blamed for so-called inaction.
He really needs to come out and take the offensive and say you have been deceived, people.
This is not a deadly virus to normal people, only to the chronic Leo who can protect themselves.
The test is inaccurate.
It covers all coronaviruses.
The death rate is over-exaggerated.
I promise as president I will never shut down the economy again.
That would win him the election.
Then they would have to really do a lot of skulldugger.
They may not have to do that.
And that's my feeling.
But I'll tell you, here's what's going to happen if we get a Democratic majority in the Senate, as well as the House and the presidency.
Here's their agenda in combination with Eric Holder, Alexandria Cortez, and Bernie Sanders.
One, banning single-family housing zoning.
Federal zoning mandates will take control over states that revise the HUD regulations to make projects that as apartment blocks go up in the suburbs to urbanize them, but never in the Hamptons and never in the places where the elite live.
Number two, there'll be climate change, carbon mandates, carbon tax, which will be extremely difficult to handle.
Number three, they'll stack the Supreme Court with more justices to make sure that they have an absolute majority and that he can name new judges.
They'll raise taxes.
They'll roll back right to work laws and push for unionization.
Number six, there's a $1.7 trillion green new deal that's being pushed for clean energy that will zero out carbon emissions by 2050.
That means no more fuel for cars or airplanes.
It'll be a disaster.
A ban on fracking.
It'll destroy the American oil industry.
Number seven, they will codify or claim to be able to codify Roe v.
Wade into law, making abortion the law of the land.
So it can't be overturned by a court.
Number eight, the abolish cash bailout for criminals so that criminals can get out of jail almost immediately.
Number nine, the prohibited disciplinary proceedings in schools.
Yep. Free and make free community college for parents making less than $125,000 a year.
They'll have universal free kindergarten.
They'll cut student loan obligations and allow them to default.
They'll try and defund charter schools, abolish all programs, providing vouchers and permission to school, and they'll attack homeschooling.
Yep. And by the way, there are thousands of parents leaving.
Public schools now to do homeschooling.
It's been the real backlash boon that's happening.
harrison smith
Yeah, there have been some things that haven't worked out the way they wanted with coronavirus.
People have realized, hey, I kind of like staying home with my kids.
joel skousen
That's right. Number 11, they'll reverse Trump's deportation policies.
They'll create citizenship and voting rights for 11 million more.
Actually, I believe it's 30 million more illegals in the country, which will guarantee that we'll never win another election again.
Absolutely. They'll eliminate corporate immigration limits, enact national health care insurance, and use the Fed to ban inequality based upon race.
I don't know how they're going to do that, but they're talking about it.
harrison smith
They'll do it with totalitarianism and authoritarianism.
Let me stop you there because we're about to go to break.
We'll finish up with that list on the other side.
And the amazing thing about this list is this isn't speculation on Europe.
This is just what they say they're going to do.
And when you look at it in totality, you see it's a complete destruction of the United States.
It's a complete destruction of all of our freedoms.
It's incredibly dangerous.
And if you ever needed a reason to vote Republican, here it is, folks.
So we'll be back to finish up that list of the horror that awaits us for the Biden presidency.
We are talking.
I'm Harrison Smith, sitting in for Owen Schroer.
I'm here with Mr.
Joel Skousen, joelskousen.com, worldaffairsbrief.com.
The book is Strategic Relocation.
All of his work, or much of his work, is available at infowars.com and amazon.com, I suppose, for now, until they come up with another excuse to remove your information.
So we're discussing what we can look forward to in a democratic dominated American government.
And again, where what you're reading out, Mr. Skousen, is not speculation.
It's not projection.
It is simply reading their proposals and just thinking about it a little bit and coming up with what will actually happen if these totally disastrous policies were to be implemented.
So I think you're about at number 13 or 14.
we ended.
joel skousen
14 actually is the last one on the list.
There are going to be others, but this is an important one.
They'll ban assault style weapons, have universal background checks, and Why should anyone be afraid of universal background?
Because it creates a universal gun registry.
And gun registry always precedes gun confiscation.
And there probably won't be gun confiscation because they'll let these things sink in.
They'll have more red flags laws and gun registration.
But that always leads to gun confiscation.
Given an appropriate false flag event, another shooting, etc., that will justify this.
And I can tell you, if you get another Sandy Hook...
government organized false flag, a mind-controlled individual going in and shooting up a school in order to, it was meant to gain the mother of all gun control and it failed just because Americans weren't ready.
harrison smith
But this time it will be different. They'll have the votes, they'll have the presidency, the Senate and the House to do that. Yeah and if there's one thing we know about the Democrats and they let us know over and over, it's that they are not afraid to use and abuse any iota of power that you give them right?
I mean, even, you know, they haven't won yet, but Chuck Schumer's already come out and say, yeah, we're going to do away with the filibuster.
We're just going to ram everything through whether you like it or not.
You know, they will use whatever power...
That we give them to totally dominate and destroy our liberties.
So, again, it's not speculation.
This is what they're planning on doing.
And how it will roll out may change a little here or there, but this is what we can look forward to if we fail this November.
joel skousen
Yes, they can change the rules of the House or the Senate to eliminate any of the safeguards.
And the filibuster has always been an important rule for the minority to at least be able to stop to keep debate going so that you couldn't put on cloture, which is the cessation of debate, without a two-thirds majority.
And once you turn that to a majority vote, and they have the majority, they can do anything they want.
So it's going to be very, very...
We're going to lose a great deal of our freedoms.
The only thing they'll be careful of is not to have too much too fast to create a backlash.
Because that's how the Democrats have always lost elections, is they went too far too fast and there was a backlash.
And that's what happened after Obama.
Why Trump got elected, there was a tremendous backlash against government programs and pushing.
Donald Trump, I have to admit, has been a great disappointment to me.
You know, he has good instincts.
I think he's a legitimate conservative, but he's never been an active conservative before he was president.
So he, first of all, knew no conservatives.
He didn't have any experience in argumentation or law of conservative thought or liberty.
His instincts get him the bully pulpit and he puts forth a program and he defends it in a campaign stop.
But he's up against now conservative advisors.
You know, he came into the election not knowing any conservatives, was faced with fulfilling or filling 4,000 jobs in the West Wing of the White House.
He didn't know anybody to fill in them.
So he goes to the Republican National Committee, which is full of a bunch of mainstream globalists, And so they fill the White House with enemies of Donald Trump.
It's not a matter of just one leaker in the White House.
It's a matter of dozens of leakers in the White House.
And that's the problem. Donald Trump keeps changing his mind, which is a good thing, because they talk him into staying in Afghanistan.
After seeing six more months of blood change, he says, ah, let's get out.
Right. And now they have to rechange it.
That's why they want Donald Trump out.
Right. They're used to having a puppet in there.
Every president of the United States since FDR has been a puppet of the global states except for Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump.
Right. And they controlled Ronald Reagan by forcing him to take George H.W. Bush, his political enemy, as his vice president, and allow him to control personnel.
Oh, yeah. And that's why there were a whole bunch of homosexual rings within the White House at a heyday.
And so, you know, even Ronald Reagan bucked the proposals and the control of George H.W. Bush.
And that's why they threw the assassination attempt.
harrison smith
I was going to say, yeah, they make H.W. the vice president and then send a bullet Reagan's way.
It's a pretty simple recipe.
joel skousen
It didn't work. But it did cause Ronald Reagan and Nancy to turn to seances and a little bit of the alternative spiritual spectrum of Gene Dixon and their prophecy to try to get them protection because they realized there was a deep state to kill us.
So Ronald Reagan was a legitimate conservative.
He was not a puppet. And Donald Trump He's not a principled conservative because he really doesn't have a conservative background, but he does have good instincts.
He does want America, what's best for America.
He just doesn't know how to facilitate it.
And he's limited because he's always lived as a CEO with briefings from other people.
He never does any of his own homework.
Right. So unless it's on Fox News television, which he watches, he won't get any information other than that.
And Fox News is a very sophisticated deception to conservatives.
Of course. Because it's anti-conspiracy.
No one except Tucker Carlson would even get close to a conspiracy.
Right. And even Tucker knows that he can't come out right and say it.
But, you know, you get on with Hannity or Bill O'Reilly before him and talk about it, and they'll just all of a sudden shut down and come at you as an attack dog.
Same with Rush Limbaugh.
He used to openly discuss conspiracy on his radio show until he got that first million dollar radio big contract, and then all of a sudden, When his very listeners the day before were talking about conspiracy started to mention the subject, he blasted them.
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Rush, we were talking about that yesterday.
joel skousen
No, we don't talk about that anymore.
harrison smith
Yeah, they have all these sorts of little tools just to, what's, you know, the quote, a lively debate within a very limited spectrum, right?
They'll go just so far, but not any farther.
And of course, even just the idea of conspiracy now has been warped and distorted where you have the Russia collusion nonsense dominating airwaves constantly.
Nobody ever called that a conspiracy theory when that's exactly what it was.
It's only that term and that, you know, reaction is only ever used when it's something that exposes the globalists and exposes these plans.
And you know, I've been, Donald Trump's been disappointing me as well, but every time I sort of start to be down on Trump, I just think, you know, the enemy of the, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
And you can just tell how viscerally angry Donald Trump makes the globalists and how hard they're working to defeat him.
Okay, there's something about this guy they hate, so he needs my support.
joel skousen
Well, he slows down their agenda.
Right. And just by changing his mind, just by having to be reconvinced and manipulated, and they use flattery.
They know he's a person subject to flattery.
Yep. I mean, of all things, for Donald Trump to buy into Xi Jinping as a wonderful guy.
Right. Really stupid, you know.
But, you know...
I agree.
I think that he's going to pick Hillary Clinton as a vice president and then bow out so that Hillary Clinton, without any primaries, without ever going through the process of gaining the nomination, can then be sifted right into the presidential slot.
Because she'll be a much stronger candidate.
I mean, can you imagine Donald Trump would make mincemeat out of Joe Biden in a debate?
Joe Biden would be confused.
They'll have to feed him the questions in advance.
They'll have to cheat. It'll be obvious.
I just don't think it can happen.
harrison smith
Guys, do we have that clip of Joe Biden from earlier today that I asked you to get?
We'll bring that up if we can.
There's a clip today. I mean, every day it seems Joe Biden is having some video come out where you can just tell his mental deterioration is evident.
It's extreme. He could not stand up against Donald Trump.
So I totally agree with you. I think he's going to be replaced with somebody by the time the election happens.
Hillary Clinton seems like the number one option.
joel skousen
And it's interesting, this COVID will be used to limit his exposure to the press.
Right. He doesn't come out and speak very, he doesn't have a debate, you know.
Oh, yeah. Because they use the...
You know, the COVID is the excuse to shut down the Republican Convention.
Right. It's very sad that we can't have any leader rise to replace Trump until Trump is gone.
And that's one of the problems.
Now, if he's gone...
Because of their illegal voting and other things, we may not have another chance to get elected, even with a person who really will defend liberty.
harrison smith
It might be over.
Yeah, we're really in dire straits, folks.
So, you know, now it's more important than ever to be informed, fight back, be politically active, because, like you say, if Trump goes away, if they dominate every house of the government, it's over for us.
It's over for America. It's over for freedom worldwide.
Very dire situation.
Welcome back, folks. It's my final segment with Joel Skousen.
Again, joelskousen.com, worldaffairsbrief.com.
Strategic Relocation is the book.
You can get his publications at infowarsstore.com.
I keep repeating that because I want people to go out and get this information, share this information, be ready, just in case, you know, God forbid, something really, really dire comes down the track.
So, I do highly suggest at worldaffairsbrief.com.
And so you come out with a new briefing every Friday, is that right?
joel skousen
That's correct. I might just say about...
My books, which are in hot demand right now, try to avoid Amazon where you can.
Amazon collects a whopping $7.50 out of every book I sell.
harrison smith
Oh, well, they deserve it, don't they?
joel skousen
It goes to the globalists and things.
You know, give your support to Infowars to support this operation, because that money will then go to help the cause rather than Amazon and Jeff Bezos.
Yes, the World Affairs Brief comes out every Friday.
It's my news analysis of all the hot topics that are going on.
But I do it from a unique perspective.
Probably no one... In the political field, understands the depth of conspiracy as I do and have documented over the years.
I've even done an eight-part series on the conspiracy, which will shortly be on band.video.
Oh, excellent. Anyway, it's going to be important to understand because that's why conspiracy is such an evil word in the society, because there is so much conspiracy.
The media must denigrate that term and must label everyone as a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist even though there are conspiracy facts which you need to know about.
Absolutely.
So there is a modest subscription fee to the World Affairs Briefs.
It's about a dollar a week.
But I can guarantee you get your money's worth.
It also comes with a prep tip every week about preparing and these are very, very popular with the subscribers.
But this week's, last week's World Affairs Brief was very, very important because the topic was how real science does not confirm the COVID claims of government and the narrative Right. And I go through all of the actual documentation from controlled studies and other things showing that masks do not stop viral transmission to any degree, that the COVID tests are not valid.
I document that through as well as the most important one that the death rate has been exaggerated tremendously by assigning COVID as the death even to people who die from motorcycle accidents and Lou Gehrig's disease.
Oh yeah, it's incredible.
That's why it's so important to have a false test.
Because you can apply to test anyone and have them test positive.
Okay, we got a COVID and then you have perverse incentives.
The federal government giving $13,000 for every COVID patient in a hospital.
And every COVID death.
And you get $39,000 for putting on a ventilator, of which 90% die.
Yeah. So all of this dramatic, powerful scientific evidence is in the current edition of the World Affairs Brief.
And you can get a free sample copy of that by emailing me at editor at worldaffairsbrief.com.
And I guarantee that you'll...
Be excited about all the information that you get.
harrison smith
And this is so important.
I was listening. There's a comedian named Tim Dillon.
He had a funny way of phrasing it.
But he essentially says, you know, nowadays, just conversations with your family requires sources, right?
Even just talking with people you know about masks or the COVID-19.
Everybody's like, well, where's your proof of that?
Where's your documentation?
And it's a strange thing.
You know, dynamic to be in, but it's very true.
And, you know, I was at dinner at my sister's house the other day and her friend, we're talking about masks and Fauci.
And I said, well, you know, Fauci originally said that you should not wear a mask and that it wouldn't be helpful.
And he's like, no way, no way.
Like, you have to send me that video.
It's like, I'm not making this up, man.
I'll find you the video and I'll send it to you.
So it's great to have, you know, in this briefing, the facts and they're sourced and you can point to them because, you People are not going to believe you.
They believe what the TV says.
And, you know, if what you say is counter to that, they've been primed, they've been psychologically manipulated to just dismiss whatever you say outright.
So you need to have the facts at your hand, right?
joel skousen
For example, in this World Affairs Brief, I document and I go to...
A systematic debunking of all the claims that are made.
harrison smith
Let me just give you an example. Like every one, right?
joel skousen
Yeah. Every myth.
First about the transmission and infection.
The myth, number one, that children can easily spread COVID to adults, including the teachers.
Now, this is being used to force children to wear masks in school.
You can debunk that. It's got the answers in the brief.
That COVID, number two, that COVID is spread easily by asymptomatic characters or carriers.
Now, this is very important because, you see, the test is not valid.
80% of those who test positive don't have any symptoms.
And so you have to now invent the myth that these people, even though they're not Symptomatic.
They're carriers and they're endangered, so they must wear masks.
You see, this whole thing in COVID is about quarantining the healthy, making healthy people wear masks.
And there's no justification for this.
And these have the answers.
A myth that COVID can easily spread on surfaces.
That's the whole thing about disinfecting.
And the myth that you can be reinfected with COVID once you've had it.
Not true. That social distancing is based on science.
Not true. It's from some 14-year-old science project.
harrison smith
That never made any sense to me.
Six feet, five feet, you know.
That never made any sense to me.
joel skousen
That's right. And the fact that masks are effective, that's a myth.
That COVID was started...
Well, let's say that COVID is...
Spreading in an exponential manner, and it isn't.
The returning of children to school is a threat to your life.
You know, this is just not true.
COVID is deadly for the general population.
Simply not true. It's only deadly to those with chronic disease or those that are immunodeficient.
A lot of the young people that are dying have HIV or positive.
They're... Transsexuals or homosexuals and they're getting COVID and it can be deadly.
And unfortunately, if you take the flu shot regularly, you're going to be COVID positive.
Right. If you take the flu shot regularly, you're going to be immunocompromised because vaccines have adjuvants in them that depress the immune system.
And so you're going to be immunocompromised.
And that's why they're pushing taking the vaccine for the flu shot, even to so-called help protect you against COVID. And it's simply not true.
harrison smith
The opposite is true. Yeah, and these aren't benign lies, right?
These are lies that then laws are being made based on these lies.
Liberties are being restricted based on these lies.
It's not just an intellectual activity.
These have real-world consequences that we need to debunk the lie in order to overcome the sort of totalitarianism that's coming down on us.
joel skousen
That's right. Now you can appeal to people's sense of a conscience, you know, sometimes when you just say, oh, this is just ridiculous. I can sense how people either agree with that or get incensed about it.
Right. I went into my printers and there was some elderly lady there at the front desk and she started backing up when I walked in with a mask back. Don't come any closer to me. You know, I said, oh, do you believe all this junk? Oh, yes, I really do. You know, this is just terribly deadly.
She's been drinking the Kool-Aid, you know, right?
It's just very, very sad.
But other people, like in my hotel here in Austin, a businessman was in there without a mask.
And I say, oh, you don't believe in this junkie?
And he says, not a minute.
And this is exaggerated.
And so this is separating people into the sheep and the goats, those who understand and think for themselves and those that are just listening to the propaganda.
And we've been primed for propaganda.
Our children have been propagandized in public schools for decades.
And we wonder why they so easily accept these things from government that had built up in their minds an inordinate amount of trust for government, inordinate amount of trust for the medical establishment, for vaccines, and it's all a lie.
harrison smith
Yeah, and I'd say it's about trusting them and trusting their prescriptions.
I can say, look, I think the masks are a good idea if you want to go out and wear them.
There's a difference between that and then mandating the masks, and you'll go to jail if you don't wear a mask.
And that whole line has been blurred now.
Now people think that, hey, if the government says it, you have to do it and it's a law.
It's not the case. We're supposed to have free choice here.
joel skousen
Let me just say before we close that people can get a free sample copy of this issue of the World Affairs Brief by emailing me at editor at worldaffairsbrief.com.
harrison smith
There you go. Send the email, get the information, win the argument.
Thank you so much, Mr. Skousen. Welcome back to the War Room.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's Harrison Smith sitting in today for Owen Schroer, welcoming my next guest, Joey Gibson.
His website, gibsonforfreedom.com.
A regular guest here on InfoWars giving us updates from the belly of the beast.
He's there in Portland.
Thank you so much for being with us here today, Joey.
unidentified
Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.
harrison smith
Absolutely. And this is, you know, you were on when I was hosting last week about a totally different topic, right?
You were there. Or no, I'm sorry.
Something else. But what you're doing now is really standing up for this woman.
She was on our program a little while ago talking about how the Oregon state government was trying to shut down her pet grooming business.
Really trying to send her to prison.
Meanwhile, of course, the city of Portland is collapsing in on itself.
What's the current situation there?
unidentified
Okay, so it's actually a city of Vancouver, which is 10 minutes north of Portland, just outside of the Oregon border, so we're in Washington State.
But regardless, we have a city attorney.
His name is Jonathan Young, and he literally wants to throw this grandma in jail because She wanted to open up her pet grooming business too early and there was no human-to-human contact, okay?
And we know for a fact that this prosecuting attorney, he doesn't care about the virus because we have pictures of him partying with his neighbors.
No social distancing, no masks, nothing, right?
Right. So the interesting thing though, so we decided to mobilize.
We had hundreds of people go out in front of the first prosecuting attorney's house.
We were very peaceful, basically asking them to do the right thing, staying with the people, praying, singing worship music, barbecuing, having a great time, tons of families.
harrison smith
An actual peaceful protest.
unidentified
Oh, 100% peaceful.
100%. I mean, the way that we protest is that we want to be positive.
You know what I mean? We don't want to burn things down.
We don't want to threaten people.
harrison smith
Have you tried throwing bombs?
I don't know. That seems to be very effective.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Of course, obviously, I'm kidding.
Obviously, I'm kidding. What you're doing is the right way to do it, is the way of protesting that is guaranteed by the First Amendment you're trying to express.
So what's been the outcome of this peaceful protest?
unidentified
So here's the update, guys, and I want all of you to listen to me at home.
We have a guy named Jonathan Young.
He took over. He's the head city attorney, and he basically wants to throw us in jail for legally and peacefully speaking out against him on a public sidewalk.
What he is trying to say is that we're intimidating an official and that he wants to strap us with felonies, okay?
So get this. Not only does this guy want to throw a grandma in jail for cutting the hair of a dog, he now wants to throw us in jail for exercising our First Amendment right.
This is very important. One of the biggest reasons that we have the First Amendment right is so that we can speak out against people in power, so we can speak out against those in the government.
And so he basically wants to throw us in jail for speaking out against him and his actions against Kelly Carroll.
joey gibson
So that's where we're at right now.
harrison smith
It truly is shocking, and it's just the perfect example of just how decrepit our system is, just how wrong and misfiring the engine of America is, because on one hand, you have people who are just insane.
They're the ones throwing bombs.
They're the ones blinding police officers, injuring federal agents, trying to burn down federal buildings.
Meanwhile, the demands that they have are Are nebulous.
It's like they want to get rid of racism.
Like, what they're actually protesting for is not very clear.
And then on the other hand, you have you guys.
You're trying to protect a grandmother, a businesswoman who is just trying to do her business, trying to run her business, and is being prevented, is being threatened with jail time.
You're just standing up and saying, we don't like this.
We have a very clear... Thing that we're trying to accomplish here, that you're trying to get done, and you're being very peaceful about it, and the way these two different dichotomies are being treated, it couldn't be more clear just how corrupt, I guess, the Oregon state government is.
unidentified
We're trying to fight against real fascism.
Fascism is in the government.
You can put your focus on the police as much as you want.
Listen, I'm just as frustrated with law enforcement as anybody else.
They're enforcing unconstitutional laws.
But why don't we focus on dismantling all these laws and regulations, okay?
We've got to talk about these politicians and these prosecuting attorneys who are the ones that are actually throwing people in jail for not doing a damn thing.
I want people to think about this.
You know, there's that temptation to kind of hide now because he's afraid of us speaking out against him.
He's afraid of hundreds of people showing up in front of his house because that's a huge statement.
But listen, his office is at home.
They've closed down all the government buildings.
We can't go to any city council meetings.
We can't go to his house.
We can't go to any office, public building.
Imagine hundreds of people going into a public building.
They're afraid of that. So now they're saying we can't go in front of his house and pray.
And pray and worship.
They want to throw us in jail for that.
So my response is this, and I talked to my lawyer.
We're going to throw a huge free speech rally in front of his house in response to this because we can't let him get away with this, right?
Absolutely. Illegal move on his part.
So what we got to do is we got to utilize, and I want to get hundreds of people out in front of his house to peacefully, to peacefully and legally on a public sidewalk declare what we believe in out in the open, unafraid, unapologetically.
harrison smith
Absolutely. You know, when I was there with your guys' group and everybody, the Proud Boys and everybody in Portland last year, You know, you see your group and, you know, some of the guys you run with, they look a little tough.
You know, they got the tattoos.
They, you know, they're wearing the wife beater and you think, oh, this is kind of a dangerous crowd here.
Then you go into the crowd and it's nothing but love.
It's literally just the nicest people.
They don't want to fight.
They want nothing to do with violence.
They don't want to control anybody else.
They're literally just really the cream of the crop spiritually in America.
We need to stand up for what's right.
We need to stop these people from exerting their power over us.
We don't want to hurt anybody else.
We don't want to impose on anybody else.
It's unfortunate that you guys are not more well-known and that more people aren't familiar with just what it's like to be in y'all's group because I've been there and it's really heartening.
It's nice. It's refreshing to see all these people American people who love American values fighting for our rights.
So I'm in full support of this.
Will this be out in front of Jonathan Young's house?
Is that who your approach is?
unidentified
Yeah. So it's pouring out for people to understand that in Vancouver, Washington, our rallies, half of them are kids.
joey gibson
I mean, it's all families.
unidentified
It's a lot of women, a lot of grandmas.
And so if the people go to my website, gibsonforfreedom.com, they can go on there and sign up their cell phone and get details on this rally.
It's going to be August 8th at 2 p.m.
On the corner of West 30th and Washington Street.
But like I said, if you go to gibsonforfreedom.com, sign up on there, then you can get details.
joey gibson
But we need you guys to show up, man.
unidentified
We need the warriors. We need the people to stand up now and stand up against this man and what he's trying to do to the people, the city of Vancouver and Clark County.
harrison smith
Absolutely. So just tell us one more time when that is and how people can sign up for it or just find out about exactly where and when to go.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely. It's August 8th at 2 p.m.
And it's at the corner of West 30th Street and Washington Street.
I'm not going to publicly give out his address, even though he'll be right in front of his house.
So if you go to gibsonforfreedom.com, okay?
And like I'm saying, sign up your cell phone, okay?
So that way you get notifications and that we don't have to rely on social media, okay?
I'm down the line on social media, okay?
They're screwing us over just like as we've seen in the last few days.
So I need your guys' help.
I'm asking you guys, okay?
I'm humbly asking for some help for people to show up.
harrison smith
Yeah, and hopefully they will.
I mean, heck, everybody's locked down.
It's not like they have anything better to do, and this is the best thing you could possibly be doing right now.
And I don't want to, you know, I'm definitely not trying to, like, frame y'all and, like, it's a bunch of dangerous guys.
You got tattoos. You might, you know, you might not look like the most soft character, but then you get to know you, and it's like, no, this guy is fighting for what's right.
You shouldn't be soft. You should be strong and empowered and really...
You know, peacefully but aggressive in defense of the First Amendment, right?
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely. And the thing is, is people think that going to someone's house is too aggressive.
Ladies and gentlemen, right now, everything is on the table.
As long as legal and peaceful, everything is on the table right here, right now.
It's 2020. The time to act is now, okay?
No more holding back. No more waiting.
No more excuses. It's now, okay?
Fight for your county. Absolutely.
harrison smith
And, you know, what's at risk here is...
A grandmother going to prison?
Insane, right? A grandmother going to federal prison for trying to pamper dogs?
And you going to federal prison, possibly for years, for expressing your First Amendment right?
I mean, this is the real issue.
This isn't some vague notion of racism that you can't see.
This is real. Welcome back to the War Room, ladies and gentlemen.
My guest is Joey Gibson.
Gibson for Freedom.com is the website to visit to find out information about the protest that he will be leading on August 8th in Vancouver, Washington at 2 p.m.
If you're anywhere in that area, I do implore, please go sign up for this and be there and show your support for taking down these totalitarian laws, for preventing the people who run your state from running roughshod over the rights of the citizens there. And of course, as Joey points out, you got to put your phone, you got to sign up with your phone number because we have to get around the social media censorship. And right now, the telephone
is basically the only way to truly get around that, to truly make sure you're getting the information that you need. Did I get everything right, Joey? Yeah, absolutely. Awesome. August 8th, 2 p.m., Vancouver, Washington. You know, one of the things, it's pretty close to Portland. And one of the things I sort of always forget to mention is that Portland, one of the reasons it's in the situation it's in now is because they have this weird kind of throwback to the old West where the mayor is also the police chief.
So there's no friction between those two offices.
They're actually one and the same person.
Is there anything like that going on in Washington?
I'm trying to figure out something that would explain the ability for the officials in your area to just run roughshod over the Constitution.
joey gibson
Because people don't do anything about it.
And we've allowed it to happen for too long.
unidentified
And yeah, now with this lockdown, now they're trying to get away with all this stuff and they don't want attention.
joey gibson
They don't want people to mobilize.
unidentified
And I think they were shocked that, you know, 200 or 300 people showed up in front of this prosecuting attorney's house saying we're not going to allow it.
joey gibson
And I think that's the key.
And that's what they're afraid of.
They're so afraid of the people coming together.
unidentified
But I would say another issue is that all over the country, police chiefs are not elected.
They should be elected like sheriffs, and that would solve all the problems.
harrison smith
Yeah, I totally agree. You know, they want to talk about defunding the police or reforming the police.
I say, great, we need them to not be political stormtroopers here.
Not in the way that they're framing it as sending the federal agents to protect the federal building or stormtroopers.
No, it's about selective enforcement.
It's about the ability of prosecutors to let criminals go and punish people who haven't really broken any law.
It's... It's a truly troubling state that we're in, but what you're doing there in Vancouver, Washington is hopefully in some part standing up against this.
Have you noticed a lot of people who maybe wouldn't have cared so much before are finally starting to realize just what situation the United States is in?
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely. That's actually footage right there from when we were in front of his house the first time.
That was a great day. But yeah, people are beginning to stand up.
I'll tell you this much, we've got a lot of grandmas standing up right now in this movement.
It is unbelievable.
The women are stepping up too.
And the interesting thing that I'm seeing is we're seeing a lot of believers right now stand up in ways that we've never seen before.
I would say traditionally the United States of America, the believers had been hiding in their houses for a long time.
And so, yeah, right there, I mean, most of those people there showed up to, you know, they believe in God, and they believe in standing up for justice, you know, the way that Jesus did.
You know, being a good Christian isn't hiding in your houses.
Being a good Christian is willing to go out there and say some things that may or may not be popular.
harrison smith
Absolutely. Of course, your group is called Patriot Prayer, and it's exactly what we need now.
We need patriots. We need them praying.
We also need them out there on the front lines, proverbially or literally, not fighting, but being out there showing their support for people like you.
It's what's necessary now, and when we look at what's happening from a bird's eye view, if we look at it in totality, We're good to go.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely. And obviously, Jesus is my mentor, even though I sin every single day.
I'm very sinful, okay?
I fail. I'm far from perfect.
I don't judge other people. But the thing is, is we have too many people who say they don't sin, right?
joey gibson
But they're not doing a damn thing.
unidentified
They're just hiding in their houses, and they're not fighting for what is right.
We, as Americans, need to face our fears.
If you believe in God, you need to face your fears and understand Jesus walked straight into death.
joey gibson
He lived his life as an example.
unidentified
He was willing to be put up on that cross, humiliated, take on all the sin of the world, all for us.
The question is, if you believe in Jesus, what are you willing to sacrifice?
How far are you willing to go in order to fight for what you believe in as a follower of Jesus?
harrison smith
You know, that's why they hate you, right?
Because if you were angry and had this sort of fallen spirit and were willing to go out like Antifa is and throw bombs and do all this, they kind of like that, right?
The people in charge, they can work with that.
They can use that. What really frustrates them is people going out and being peaceful.
People expressing themselves without violence.
They don't know how to deal with this because it's so clearly the right thing, right?
I think that really has something to do with why they have such a raging fury about Christians and Christianity is because it really puts a...
Stick in their spokes. It stops what they're trying to do and it doesn't let them frame you as somebody who's hateful or bigoted or, you know, trying to get something for yourself.
When you really express your true Christian spirit, it's something that they truly fear more than anything else.
joey gibson
Yeah, I would say in a time of darkness and a country filled with lies, when you speak the truth, people are really drawn to it.
unidentified
I think for me, that's the most powerful thing that I have.
You know, God has blessed me with the ability to speak and to be able to just speak from my heart.
And so they absolutely hate that because I'm not going to speak about, I'm not going to say anything hateful.
I'm not going to be negative, even though I have a lot of reasons to be negative.
I'm going to stay positive and keep my head up and I want to give people hope and I want to inspire people to That this is your country, or this is your county, or this is your city.
Now take it, right?
Take it. You can.
It's yours, but you gotta believe it.
harrison smith
Yeah, and you know, it's one of the things, it's almost like you see the way they're trying to invigorate race war, essentially.
They're trying to invigorate dissension between Americans, and it can really be hard not to fall into that lie, right?
Not to You know, it's almost like you have to go, you're not going to make me racist.
You can try as hard as you want.
I'm not going to fall for it.
And to me, it's one of those things that, you know, if you ever get the impulse to go, ah, it's all this type of person.
To me, I always go, no, no, God made every one of those people with a soul who deserve...
Deserving of love, deserving of empathy and respect.
And again, this is what they don't want.
They want the conflict. They want the race war.
They want the friction.
And you deny them that when you rise above and you go, I'm not falling for it.
I'm not becoming racist. I'm not, you know, becoming violent.
You're not going to get me, Satan.
joey gibson
It's not going to happen. Yeah, it's about not being tribal.
unidentified
It's about letting go of all this conflict between citizens right now.
joey gibson
It's nothing more than a distraction.
unidentified
I am 100% certain that Black Lives Matter is nothing more than a distraction right now.
They're using that, okay, and they're trying to get us pissed off and angry, which for good reasons, right?
I understand, but what I'm saying is that Well, the government is behind the scenes trying to throw law-abiding citizens in jail, you know, for wanting to work, for wanting to put food on the table, right?
So that's why I'm telling people, you know, don't get too distracted by Black Lives Matter when your government's throwing people in jail and they're trying to tell you who's essential and non-essential.
That's what you need to focus on.
harrison smith
Absolutely. Keep your eye on the prize.
And right now in Vancouver, Washington, they're trying to throw a woman in jail for grooming puppies.
It's insane. And then they've gone a step farther and said, we're going to throw you in jail if you try to stop us from throwing her in jail.
It's layer upon layer of corruption that needs to be stood up against.
Thank God you're doing it.
Again, August 8th, 2 p.m., Vancouver, Washington.
You'll be protesting out in front of Jonathan Young's house, and they can find that information at gibsonforfreedom.com.
Anything else before I let you go?
unidentified
No, that's it, guys. Just go on the website, sign up your cell phone numbers and show up.
joey gibson
Again, I'm asking humbly, guys.
unidentified
I'm asking for help. So we need the bodies out there.
And God bless all of you. Absolutely.
harrison smith
God bless you as well. And keep it up, man.
You really are a powerful warrior for our side and you represent us well.
So thanks so much for coming on with us, Joey.
Appreciate it. Alright, we'll have to have Joey back once the dust settles to figure out how things have gone.
Seriously, putting a grandmother in prison for trying to groom a dog.
It's beyond words, folks.
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harrison smith
the voices that you are hearing sing are the Jonestown Children's Choir.
This was recorded on the very day that the Jonestown Massacre took place.
The voices that you're hearing the children singing were mere hours from their own death at the hands of The cult followers of Jim Jones in the jungles of Guyana.
This begins our second part of our Jonestown coverage here at the War Room.
We'll be spending the rest of the hour on this topic.
Quick recap from last week when I began this coverage.
Jonestown, the suicide death cult run by Jim Jones that ended in the mass murder-suicide of nearly a thousand people, over 300 of them children, It was not as much a religious sect as it was a communist utopia,
believe it or not. Of course, this is portrayed, of course, as some sort of religious extremism, Christian extremism in popular culture.
The term, don't drink the Kool-Aid, is often used to disparage conspiracy theorists or those people that choose to believe Things that go counter to the mainstream narrative.
But that's not entirely the case.
In fact, it was, as I say, an attempt to create a communist utopia.
It was a cult based not on religious teachings but on socialism.
Now... As I mentioned last week, you can go very far down the rabbit hole of Jonestown when talking about the CIA, the deep state, MKUltra, and I will.
Tomorrow, I'll close out this coverage with the third hour, the third installment, where I'll talk specifically about the CIA's involvement or potential involvement, I should say, the mind control techniques used and perfected under MKUltra and how that interacts with The Jonestown Massacre.
But, as last week, in this segment, I want to focus solely on the mainstream story.
The widely believed and understood tale.
Not the nefarious actions that went on under the surface, but strictly what can be seen and observed by On the surface of Jonestown.
So today what I will be discussing is again not just how this communist breakaway society was primed to lead to the death of all of the adherents and followers but also how these very same tactics are used today as the rulers of the world Those who claim to be our leaders,
political or otherwise, lure us as a nation into a sort of suicide pact, a suicide cult.
Of course, I first started really thinking about this and wondering about this and being curious about this because I wanted to answer the question, what would cause a suicide like this?
Because I look around and I see what essentially is America committing suicide.
I wonder how did we get here?
What brainwashing, what mind control did it take to lure an entire nation into suicide?
And I found that when looking at Jonestown, all of the ingredients were there.
It's laid out exactly how it happened.
Of course, we see Black Lives Matter and Antifa.
They're essentially leading a new religion.
That's not a religion. It's socialism.
And we'll break down that and all the distinctions on the other side.
Jim Jones began his career as a cult leader, claiming to be and pretending essentially to be a Christian sermonizer.
A holy roller.
A faith healer in the evangelical tradition.
There's another aspect to his beliefs, and that was, of course, communism, socialism, Marxism.
And one of the ways he, strangely enough, integrated that into his sermonizing was through racial integration and claiming to support the downtrodden And to be fighting against the racism that at the time was still very much systematic in its presentation to the American people.
But here's how he really felt.
And you can tell me if this sounds an awful lot like things that you hear in the mainstream media today.
The rhetoric that you hear, very, very reminiscent of...
What the likes of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or any of these radical progressives in the American government have to say.
This is an incredible quote by Jim Jones.
I really want you to think about this when you hear it and think about how this same sentiment is reflected in our own media today.
Here he is, Jim Jones.
unidentified
We do not accept religion.
Religion says man's born a sinner.
No, he's not born a sinner.
Now, we've got to get this question settled here because I hear some of this bull still preach from this pulpit.
That man's born in sin.
Man, the only sin you're born in is a society.
The kind of community you live in.
If you're born in a socialist community, then you're not born in sin.
If you're born in this church, this socialist revolution, you're not born in sin.
If you're born in capitalist America, racist America, fascist America, then you're born in sin.
But if you're born in socialism, you're not born in sin.
harrison smith
The hijacking of religious terminology and distorting it, perverting it to his own ends.
It's a common theme.
And again, there should be no confusion about this.
There's no blurred lines here.
He used religion.
And if you saw last week, he said, how can I bring about my Marxist vision?
It was to infiltrate the church.
And it's exactly what he did.
I'm going to play A clip here, slightly longer clip, but what you'll hear is a series of Jonestown members.
Listen to how they speak, listen to what they say, and once again, look at it through the modern lens in which these very same sentiments, these very same ideas are expressed daily, not just from the more progressive outlets, but The more progressive media conglomerates, but also from people who claim to represent us in the American government.
And look at how these very same ideas are being used in the very same ways to limit and destroy our freedom.
But here you're about to hear from some of the victims of Jonestown, some of the victims of the brainwashing, as they express in their own words what they believe.
unidentified
This is video two. And I'm a member of People's Temple.
Jim Jones is our leader.
I'm a Marxist-Leninist, and I'm not ashamed of it.
And that's what the third world don't like, because we are of the third world people.
We're fighting for the rights of the underdog.
We supported many causes. We supported many people where nobody else would stand up for them.
We set an example in the work that we did, the humanitarian work that we did.
We got people out of jails.
We brought people from prisons.
We brought people out of hospitals, convalescent homes, from the ghettos.
You name it, People's Temple has done it.
For years now, Many of us here comrades all have struggled to try to teach and perfect in our own lives the principles that were laid down by Marx and Lenin for the guidance and the perfection of human society.
I expect that all of us are somewhat idealists in the sense that both by example and by an attempt at persuasion we've dedicated our lives to attempting to uplift humanity around us and ourselves in the process in order to reach those ideals.
We are not a death-oriented group.
This group has existed for over 25 years and tried to involve ourselves in all aspects of life.
In every aspect of life, the Marxist-Leninist view of total equality, of women and men, no ageism, no sexism, In our community here, the means of production has been put in the hands of the people to develop the community and to try to be an example of that kind of community.
But even when we tried to work through the democratic process to bring some kind of justice and the concern about fascism, we're in a socialist country, and we found inconsistencies where we were told to compromise our principles, not to feed people, not to advertise, or in some instances give medical care, For those of you listening to this tape, to listen very, very carefully to the words of Jim Jones.
Because here tonight, even at the hour of decision for a revolutionary suicide, in the words of Jim Jones, you will find, if you listen, the key to the survival of humanity.
I love you, and you've grown stronger.
And when we do build a revolution, it will be a right one, because we started without dreams.
We didn't have illusions.
We didn't have hallucinations.
It was based on reality.
harrison smith
There you go. Based on reality.
You know, if you look at many cults that do purport to be religious, unlike Jim Jones, they have to take religious doctrine and distort it and pervert it and bend it to their own end.
It's not the pure expression of We're good to go.
are the foundational core concepts of communism and socialism.
There's no distortion here from the beliefs and the ideas and projections of Marx and Lenin.
This is the fulfillment of their beliefs.
And it's very interesting.
And of course, again, one of the things we discussed last time were the strategies used by the cult To first enrapture and then enslave its adherents.
Some of these would be isolation, including the destruction of the nuclear family.
A lack of information, a system by which all of your information comes from a single source, that is, the source that controls you.
a lack of sleep and using drugs to keep people in a state of disorientation where they're incapable of understanding or standing up against the dictates of the leader. There's also an aspect of public shaming of communal punishment where you'd see people who did nothing wrong would be beaten or would simply be shouted down by their fellow cult members and would find themselves
apologizing and feeling like they were the bad guys even though they'd done nothing wrong.
You also have an aspect of the cult members being forced to believe obvious lies.
And this is an important one.
It goes all the way back to 1984.
If you believe that 2 plus 2 equals 5, well that's good.
Because then you can be taught to believe anything.
So we explained last week how They would tell obvious lies to their congregation and yet the congregation was so controlled No one would stand up against it and say this is wrong.
They'd also fake hate crimes against themselves in order to bring the temple closer together and Portray the outside world as something dangerous and evil that needed to be stood up against much of this was done through racial Exploitation and even more of it was done through dependence on the temple you gave everything you had to the temple you relied on them for your sustenance as well as your spiritual belonging
Also very important in this is incrementalism The slowly ratcheting up of control.
Not total domination at the beginning but the introduction slowly of control mechanisms.
I'll get into how all this plays out on the other side.
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They sound so happy, don't they?
harrison smith
They sound so welcoming, so joyful, so full of life.
You know, just like before where we heard the followers of Jim Jones claim to support equality, claim to support freedom, claim to support all these wonderful things.
How could anybody be against this?
Well, what those people who fell for this were not aware of is the claims of equality, the claims of love espoused by these Members of Jim Jones' cult were simply the bait on the hook of a death cult.
Of course they look good.
Of course they sound good. Of course they seem loving.
It's just a facade in order to dominate and control you.
Lure you into it in a way that your resistance is minimal.
And that's truly the point of all of the Exercises that I laid out in the last segment.
Isolation, removing people from their families, forcing them to rely not on their own cognizance and not on their own view of the world, but solely be dependent on what you believe to be true by those you trust.
And power over you. And it's all about power, of course.
All of these actions, all of these practices have one central theme and that is destroying any resistance you have to being controlled.
As I pointed out last time, it's all about power and power is control.
If I demand you go do something and you don't do it, I have no control over you.
I have no power over you.
Control is power.
And to reiterate the quote that I began the Jonestown coverage with, this is a quote by philosopher Carl Jung.
He says, where love rules, there is no will to power.
And where power predominates, there love is absence.
There's a third line to that quote that I omitted last time, but it's an important one.
It is, the one is the shadow of the other.
Meaning the one is the absence of the other.
Meaning they may look similar, they may be of generally the same shape, but one is real and tangible and the other is merely a mirage.
And the two cannot coexist in reality at the same time.
Now Jim Jones conflated these two.
He confused these two.
And I'll play a clip now of Jim Jones where he's actually talking about love and how that relates to the physical act of sex.
So listen to this.
And then I'll break down how this illustrates the misunderstanding or the conflation between love and power that is necessary for the domination of Jim Jones' subjects.
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Here it is, video three. But it's a pretty good point you make.
Principle is a recipe.
The recipe today is total racial, social, and economic equality.
The weight of that recipe is When I first heard that quote from Jim Jones, it really stood out to me.
harrison smith
He says that sex is the farthest thing from love.
But in reality, to me this is a Good point to illustrate the effect that love can have.
It's love that separates sex from rape.
One is the pure exertion of power.
The other is a pure form of love.
Just like love separates, is the difference, is the key component that separates sex from rape.
It's the key component that elevates sex from the vulgar form.
To the divine, to the thing that creates life itself.
But Jim Jones saw no distinction between these two things.
To him, they were one and the same.
And it gives you an insight into the minds of those that want to control others.
You know, if I think that your life would be better if you did a certain thing, I can express that to you, I can try to convince you, and you are free to make the decision of whether to do that or not.
That's a loving way to interact with somebody else.
But there's a difference between that and saying, I know better than you, so I'll force you to do what I want.
And the primary difference between those two things is love.
And yet, for Jim Jones, there was no distinction between these.
They were one and the same.
Love was power to him, and it's the basic and foundational misunderstanding that allows people to be controlled.
Because while this quote, you know, sex is the farthest thing from love, sex is vulgar and narcissistic, while it may reveal what Jim Jones' belief is, it may reveal the fact that Jim Jones believed that power and love were one and the same, that may be the case, but it definitely shows what he wanted his followers to believe.
Why am I saying this? Why am I sticking on this quote for so long?
Well, such a belief is necessary for Because just like the exertion of power, the exercise of control can be confused with love, so too can submission to control be confused with love.
You have to prime your victim, the person you're trying to exploit and take advantage of, to believe that not only is my power over you an act of love, but your submission to me is This is,
again, foundational and all-important when talking about socialism, communism, control, the way out there in the world, in America today, all these people truly believe that they are expressing love by submitting to power.
They are being good people by submitting to control.
It's a It's a nice distinction.
It's a sharp distinction, but it's a very impactful one.
So here I want to play another clip of Jones, Jim Jones, where he talks about what he thinks love truly is and where love comes from.
Let's go to clip four.
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Does your churches have any love?
Does your preacher talking about the sky God?
Will he give you a ride?
Will he give you any buses? Has he given you any of those homes?
Has he given you help? Does he go into the court and the jails and set you free?
Does his sky Jesus do you any good?
No! I'm the only one that'll help you!
I'm the only one that cares about you!
I'm the only one that loves you!
harrison smith
See, he's the only one that loves you.
He's the only one that will do anything for you.
Of course, he refers to God and to Jesus in this dismissive way as the sky God that will never do anything for you, where what he will give you is tangible.
What he will give you is real, supposedly.
Of course, this was... In a situation where his followers were surviving on a subsistence diet of rice and the occasional vegetable.
Well, he sat on over $30 million in offshore banks and constantly demanded his followers give to him.
But you can see there especially where he's telling his followers, submission to me is the only way to have love.
It should be apparent by now the way, the similarities I should say between the tactics
used by Jim Jones to control and dominate his followers are reflected in the modern They're almost exactly the same from the isolation to the destruction of the nuclear family.
All these things are fairly blatant.
Not quite as blatant as what we discussed in the last segment, which is the conflation of power with love.
But hopefully you understand that as well.
You understand that our entire society has been We're brainwashed over decades, especially the young people, to see submission to power as an act of love and in the same time see exertion of power over others as an act of love.
After all, you know better than them, don't you?
It's for their own good.
And if you have to break a law here or there, it's for the greater good.
It's a small sacrifice to make for the goal to which you reach.
And all of this, of course, is to gain more power, gain more control over those who fall under your spell.
Just as Jim Jones did that, we now see, and we continue to see, we've seen for a long time, the global powers operating with the very same playbook.
But what is the point of power?
What is the ultimate goal of gaining power?
Well, power is, like the mob, an insatiable beast.
Power begets more power.
The more power you get, the more power you're able to accrue.
And Jim Jones used his power over the people of his cult to gain political power.
Thank you.
Before ever going to the jungles of Guyana, Jim Jones and the People's Temple had a very large presence in California, specifically the city of San Francisco.
They were in fact highly active in the democratic political scene.
Here you'll hear some of the survivors who actually were able to extricate themselves from the cult of Jim Jones explain that Jim Jones would only really help people Would only really express the so-called love he felt when it gained him something politically.
unidentified
Here's clip five. Jones never loved anyone as the picture was presented.
He'd only help the community where he saw it was pulling him politically, involvement, you know, getting to gain more power.
He only used people.
People were pawns.
harrison smith
People were pawns.
People were something to be used.
Love would not be shown to somebody who would be detrimental to Jim Jones.
It was only in pursuit of power that he used or exploited the love that he claimed to feel.
And this began, like I said, not in the jungles of Guyana, in his cultish compound.
It actually began way back in the 1950s, when Jim Jones was in Indianapolis, He began his career as a preacher in a typical holy roller evangelical kind of style.
But when he learned about communism, when he learned about Marxism, when he decided to use the church as a vehicle to his own political power, you found that his church was transformed from being a typical holy roller sort of sermon to integrationalist evangelism.
He went around and claimed to be at the forefront of the process of integrating the races within Indiana.
Again, we see many parallels.
The exploitation of the downtrodden state of black Americans.
The abuse or taking advantage of racial strife in order to gain power for oneself.
But when the church moved to San Francisco, they found that the racial issue was not quite as big of a deal there.
Of course, they overcame this.
Jim Jones overcame the lack of opposition to him by committing false flags, by committing fake hate crimes against himself.
So he could confuse and manipulate his followers into believing that they were under attack.
Of course, benefiting from all of the side effects that that causes in his congregation.
But his manipulation of San Francisco politics, his inclusion in the democratic process, is truly an all-important illustration of the ways in which A collective group of people who all believe they're serving the higher good,
who can all be easily manipulated and controlled because they've had those barriers and those natural resistances to control torn down, how they can be used to bring power to those who abuse and use them.
So here, listen to the way Jim Jones' inclusion in San Francisco politics is depicted here, video number six.
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Within San Francisco, Jones worked to have People's Temple become politically influential.
Members were used to bolster campaign crowds for politicians who were friends with Jones.
Jones ordered Temple members to support politicians who worked for the Temple's interests.
To outsiders, it appeared these politicians had massive support from a diverse section of the community.
People's Temple members were tailor-made for political rallies due to the variety of cultures, genders, ages and skin tones.
Without Jim Jones, these political rallies would have nowhere near the amount of supporters.
And at the time, it was understood that it was impossible to win office in San Francisco without the support of Jones and People's Temple.
harrison smith
Sound familiar? Does that sound familiar to you?
Hordes of brainwashed communists used to create crowds in order to Create the illusion, the appearance of public support to manufacture consent amongst the citizenry?
It's exactly what's going on now.
It's exactly what we see splayed across TV screens on the news every day and every night.
Here's riots flare up as massive marches go through the streets while those that wish to stand up against this force are Compelled by law to stay inside and to not congregate.
This allows the manipulation of appearances.
It allows the people who control these groups to make it look like there is a wider subsection of the population in support of them than there truly are.
It's manufacturing consent.
It's creating the appearance of public support.
But it's all Completely crooked.
It's all a total lie.
It's all shadow puppets and kabuki theater.
It's all falsehoods.
Now, what did he gain from this?
Well, he gained political power.
He gained positions in the San Francisco government.
In fact, during the election of Mayor George Moscone, George Moscone won Re-election, or election rather, by less number of votes than there were members in Jim Jones' temple.
And Jim Jones was very intense about this.
The temple was very intense about this.
Members of the temple were not only given a ballot to show them exactly who to vote for, but they were required to bring their receipt back to prove that they voted for the right people.
If you were in Jim Jones' temple, if you were a member of the communist socialist breakaway cult, you were required to serve the political interests of your leader to get him appointed into positions of power.
And the sheer number of California and even national politicians that were in good company with Jones is truly shocking.
Mayor Moscone, Jerry Brown, even Dianne Feinstein, Harvey Milk, Very interesting, isn't it? The manipulation of public perception.
The manipulation of votes.
All in service of installing communism under the radar by claiming good things, by claiming solidarity and unity when it was all about control.
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I'd like to thank some of the sources that I used.
harrison smith
for gathering and compiling this information.
And if you are interested in the phenomenon of Jonestown, the manipulation of communists and socialists, the mind control exerted, and you wanna do some further digging for yourself, many of the clips that you'll be seeing today are from a podcast called Case File.
That's a true crime podcast and did a three-part series on the Jonestown massacre that is well-researched and incredibly well put together.
That's Case File, the podcast, another podcast.
It's called Transmissions from Jonestown.
And if you really wanna go down the rabbit hole, well, look up Transmissions from Jonestown and enjoy the trip.
And then also there's a website called Alternative Considerations of Jonestown and People's Temple, sponsored by the Special Collections of Library Information Access at San Diego State University, the website jonestown.sdsu.edu.
And this is a repository for information, articles, clips.
They have many of Jim Jones's sermons with complete transcripts and annotations and has been an invaluable resource as I do research and delve into the dark underbelly of this death cult.
It's alternative considerations of Jonestown and People's Temple at jonestown.sdsu.edu.
So if you are intrigued by this, I suggest you go look farther into it.
Of course, tomorrow I will be finishing up my coverage of Jonestown by breaking down the total spiderweb of deep state connections that swirl around the Jonestown phenomenon.
So what is the point of power?
That's what I'm trying to suss out here.
Of course, love is the absence of power.
Power is the absence of love.
I guess you could say the point of love is love itself, and in a similar fashion, the point of power is power itself.
I broke down in the last segment how the People's Temple used their hordes of brainwashed communists to manipulate public opinion and help Democrats get into power, get into political power there in the city of San Francisco.
I'd like to read an excerpt from the New York Times.
This is the December 17th, 1978 edition of that newspaper.
Here I will quote extensively, it says, determined to help elect politicians friendly towards his people's temple, the Reverend Jim Jones ordered what former temple members say was an organized campaign of fraudulent voting practices that included importing busloads of illegal voters to cast their ballots in the city's 1975 municipal election.
One former Temple member, Neva Sly, recalled in an interview that her husband, Don, had driven busloads of Temple members here to vote from Redwood Valley, Mr.
Jones' settlement in Northern California, and also from the Temple's branch in Los Angeles.
In the runoff election for the mayor's office in 1975, for example, Mr.
Moscone was elected by just 4,000 votes.
And Mr. Freitas won by fewer than 10,000.
Judging from various estimates, Mr.
Jones' adherents probably number about 5,000, a sizable block in a city where the average voter turnout runs close to 100,000.
Again, hopefully alarm bells are ringing in your head.
Hopefully, as I read the tactics of the communist cult called the People's Temple, And the way they flaunted the laws in an attempt to reach what they thought was the higher good, they bust in people from out of town.
They registered people incorrectly and fraudulently in order to get them a vote.
They would pull out all the stops.
They would do any underhanded trick they needed to.
In order to get political power, because again, to them, they were serving the greater good.
So, what did it matter that they broke a few mundane, petty laws in the process?
Now, in exchange for delivering George Moscone the mayor's office, Jim Jones was appointed as the head of the San Francisco Housing Authority, in the same way that in the 1950s, his Promotion of himself as an integrationalist and as a racial civil rights leader got him promoted as the Indianapolis Human Rights Commissioner.
He, likewise, used his power over the people of the People's Temple to get himself appointed to the position of head of the San Francisco Housing Authority.
But in addition to Jim Jones becoming an important figure in San Francisco politics, he had amongst his followers people like Tim Stone.
Tim Stoen was a deputy district attorney in Mendocito County.
He joined the People's Temple when it was still in Ukiah, California.
Remember, it started in Indianapolis, then he moved his congregation to Ukiah, California in the Redwood Valley, before then moving to the Los Angeles temple and finally settling in the San Francisco temple where he remained and presided as a political figure until he was really in many ways forced to escape to Guyana, where he set up his compound and exerted
his ultimate power of suicidal intent.
But Tim Stoen was in a sort of position of power.
He was, after all, a deputy district attorney.
you So using their positions of power, Tim Stone and others would not just deflect or undermine any accusations made about abuse or fraud within the temple.
They'd also help cover up Jim Jones' multiple run-ins with the law.
Jim Jones was caught several times soliciting gay sex at a time when that was illegal in the United States. This would have been a big problem for him with his image as a reverend if this information were to get out or if he were to be legally held responsible for what he was doing.
And of course, you know, there were people who were able to escape the temple, people who saw what was going on in the temple there at Ukiah or there at San Francisco that tried to raise alarm bells, that tried to tell people what he was doing, what the temple was up to, how they abused and took advantage of their members.
But all of these concerns were swept under the rug, came up against brick walls legally.
Because he had people like Tim Stoen in his temple who were able to deflect and derail any legal resistance to what Jim Jones was doing.
So for Jim Jones' followers, being the good little socialists that they were...
How bad was it truly to bend or break the mundane, petty laws, as they saw them, fascist and racist laws of the fascist and racist United States?
Of course, they were working for the higher good.
So in this way, Jim Jones' power, both political and religious, or political and occultish, I should say, allowed him and his followers to remain above the law in many ways.
In addition, when the accusations of voter fraud arose following the 1975 mayoral election described previously, former San Francisco Attorney General Joseph Fetas, whom the People's Temple help elected, was put in charge of investigating and determining whether or not voter fraud actually took place.
Well, lucky for Jim Jones and the People's Temple, the person that The District Attorney Joseph Fetas appointed to be in charge of this investigation was none other than Tim Stoen.
That's right, Tim Stoen led a special unit to investigate the accusations.
Unsurprisingly, Stoen found no evidence of fraud.
Or at least that's what he claimed.
So this is sort of the full picture.
Hopefully from last week and This hour I've spent here discussing Jim Jones and the Jonestown People's Temple cult, you can get a full picture of exactly what's going on in today's world, where you have people that are using the same tactics, isolation, confusion, even drugs, right?
In Jonestown, if somebody wasn't happy with the fact that they were being kept in Legitimate bondage.
They're being held as slaves, barely kept alive with subsistence diets, not allowed to sleep more than a few hours every night, kept constantly in a state of paranoia and subjugation.
You know, if they wanted to fight back against this, stand up against this, they were incapable of doing so because of the programming that Jim Jones had spent years perfecting and solidifying.
So the same things are being done now.
The same things are being done here.
Of course, when the People's Temple was in San Francisco and California, people could leave.
And it wasn't until they all got separated from other Americans, when they were truly isolated, surrounded by a wall of jungle there in Guyana, thousands of miles from the closest help that they could find.
That was when the hammer really came down.
That was when The door of the jail cell was locked once and for all.
It was only once they arrived in Guyana that the people's temple found that they were truly trapped and they truly were in the communist so-called utopia that they had been trying to build.
So I hope you take these lessons and apply them to what you see today and understand that the socialists and progressives are luring you into a death cult.
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