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Okay, ladies and gentlemen, here's the deal. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| I've got a ton of news I would love to get to today, but I have to be honest. | ||
| The number one subject that everybody's talking about, and quite frankly, the number one subject on my mind is coronavirus. | ||
| And I'm just trying to do a balancing act with my own analysis and my own projection or my own The ballparking of where this is at, where it's going, trying to look at all the angles, and then not to make it about me, but to make it about, to personalize it, like, hey, yeah, I'm about to fly places. | ||
| Hey, we got guests flying in here. | ||
| Like, do we need to be thinking about that? | ||
| Is that an issue? | ||
| Do I need to be ready to go into a two-week quarantine? | ||
| In fact, let me just say where it's at. | ||
| Because again, I'm just coming on here, live play-by-play. | ||
| I'm already like mid-show mode right now. | ||
| Because I was on for an hour with Alex. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| It's basically where I was at before. | ||
| But my new fear... | ||
| I don't even know how to put it into words. | ||
| You can't deny what's happening in Italy. | ||
| You can't deny at the upper echelons behind the scenes in government, they are preparing for the worst. | ||
| Now, my internal philosophical debate continues on, which is, what is the bigger issue? | ||
| The hysteria over the coronavirus or the virus itself? | ||
| What is going to be more deadly to freedom? | ||
| What is going to be more deadly to people? | ||
| What is going to cause a bigger panic? | ||
| As I literally have two people coming into the studio right now that flew here on an airplane where they don't have a proper ventilation system to stop a respiratory virus from affecting everyone on the plane. | ||
| Should I be thinking about that? | ||
| Should I be canceling trips? | ||
| Should we really think, okay, let's get ready in case you need a two-week quarantine. | ||
| Get the food ready, get the water, get anything you need, just in case. | ||
| Or is that the whole point? | ||
| Or is it more like September 11th in that, yeah, the buildings fell, people died, there was an aftermath of people dying, but the narrative, how it happened was a lie, and was then used to To facilitate other agendas, larger agendas. Here's my biggest fear. | ||
| Not the coronavirus. | ||
| Even if the coronavirus ends up being so bad, even if it ends up being as bad as the worst projections have analyzed, even if it ends up being that bad, it's still not my biggest fear. | ||
| My biggest fear is still how it is used to scare people And a fear campaign used to bring in martial law, to bring in a one-world government, to bring in checkpoints if you want to leave your house, mandatory coronavirus checks, whatever you want to say. | ||
| People are now so worried about getting a virus if they leave their house, you've basically now entered into a digital era where there is no human interaction at all anymore. | ||
| Which is where we've been going now. | ||
| And so is this the rollout to justify it, to get the common man to buy into it? | ||
| So this is where my mind is at. | ||
| And look, I've got great guests all day today. | ||
| But part of me just wants to open up the phone lines and just, because everybody wants to talk about coronavirus right now. | ||
| I mean, we can't even help it. Even if you wanted to not hear about it, not talk about it, you know, push it out of your consciousness, you couldn't do it. | ||
| It's still going to be there. Somebody's going to bring it up. | ||
| It's going to be another issue tomorrow. It's going to be another issue next week. | ||
| So we'll see what happens in the next three hours. | ||
| All right, a little sneak peek. | ||
| If you get a camera shot here, my second guest, he's trying to hide. | ||
| He can't hide. It's Milo Yiannopoulos. | ||
| He tried to come in here and do a traditional greeting. | ||
| I said, no, give me the corona elbow. | ||
| To which he said he has had the coronavirus, but we're teasing deep radio tease. | ||
| Deep radio tease. He's going to be on in the second hour. | ||
| There's Milo Yiannopoulos. | ||
| I couldn't hear anything he said because his shoes were too loud. | ||
| Don't get me off topic, Milo. | ||
| I didn't mean, I didn't mean, no, you know what I meant. | ||
| No, no, no. I didn't mean the actual sound. | ||
| I meant the fashion statement you were making. | ||
| We'll get to this later. We'll get to it. | ||
| You got work to do. He's got a new book that he's just finished up. | ||
| He's going to be talking about that. | ||
| He's going to be talking about the coronavirus. | ||
| That's going to be in the second hour. The first hour, I'm going to be joined in the next segment by Norm Pattis, legal expert, attorney, who will be joining me. | ||
| We're going to talk about the Harvey Weinstein sentencing that's just come down. | ||
| But it's not over for Harvey. | ||
| There's still some other things lingering out there. | ||
| So we'll talk about that. | ||
| And again, though, I almost am debating just going line to line, open lines all day today. | ||
| And in fact, I put out a poll on Twitter. | ||
| My... I don't want to use the word fear, but I'll use it for lack of a better phrase at least right now. | ||
| My biggest fear or my fears or my worries about the coronavirus are at the highest they've ever been. | ||
| And that's because I see what's going on in Italy. | ||
| And then I saw this tweet from President Trump today. | ||
| Literally less than an hour ago. | ||
| Almost makes me wonder if he wasn't listening to the Alex Jones show when we were talking about this with Mike Adams and Gary Haven. | ||
| Yeah. He says, I am fully prepared to use the full power of the federal government to deal with our current challenge of the coronavirus. | ||
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Wow. What does that mean? | |
| And here's part of my handicap. | ||
| We'll call it a handicap. Here's part of my handicap, my position. | ||
| But because I approach this desk, this microphone, this role in a matter of pretty much just full honesty, full transparency, there is some discernment there. | ||
| My worries have peaked for the coronavirus, and I have basically now... | ||
| I mean, I've always had emergency food, and I've always had bug-out bags, you know, in case of the worst of the worst. | ||
| But I decided last night, I personally got stocked up for a two-week quarantine, in case that would happen, or a two-week lockdown. | ||
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I did that last night. | |
| I don't like talking about that because I don't want to... | ||
| Make anyone else panicked. | ||
| I don't want you to think you have to do that. | ||
| That's not what I want to be. | ||
| I want you to take information and make your own decisions. | ||
| That's how it's always been here. | ||
| That's how it will continue to be. | ||
| But I'm just being perfectly honest. | ||
| And again, I'm not afraid of the virus. | ||
| I'm not afraid of COVID-19. | ||
| I'm not afraid of coronavirus. | ||
| I'm afraid of what it's going to facilitate. | ||
| Will there be martial law? | ||
| Will there be total panic? | ||
| Will civilization break down? | ||
| And then the worries I do have when it comes to the virus, I look at what's going on in Italy. | ||
| And so if it does get so bad, I mean, I think if you get a situation, a thousand Americans dead, which I guess could be definitely within a month, people may start to panic. | ||
| Now, see, there's a catch to that. | ||
| That is hysteria. | ||
| Now, I'm not going to be the one that says, oh, it's just the flu, bro. | ||
| But, you have to recognize the facts. | ||
| People are giving Trump a hard time for the tweet about how many of the flu kills and all this stuff. | ||
| But he's right! Where's the mass hysteria? | ||
| Well, they did that, didn't they? | ||
| They've done that before. | ||
| It wasn't world-ending. | ||
| But there's something else to this coronavirus that it. | ||
| I think everybody either knows on a face value level or subconsciously they know it because we're all connected, folks. | ||
| We're all in this consciousness, this dimension, this frequency, this simulation, God's creation, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| It's all one consciousness with each individual consciousness as like a Info hub almost. | ||
| An experience hub. | ||
| A consciousness hub. Like beacons. | ||
| Like receptors. So I think... | ||
| Subconsciously people know... | ||
| This is not organic. | ||
| This is not natural. | ||
| And... Subconsciously, you'll know that because a fellow human had to do this to us. | ||
| Somebody made the bioweapon, somebody released the bioweapon. | ||
| So, they're thinking it, they're knowing it, they're worried about getting caught. | ||
| That frequency, that vibration then spreads throughout the consciousness, spreads throughout the realm that we're in, and then other people just pick up on it. | ||
| They don't know what they're picking up, They might not even be able to hear it. | ||
| They might not even be able to read it. | ||
| But they're getting the frequency. | ||
| We're all on the frequency. We're all getting it. | ||
| And so, yeah, okay, you look at the stats on the flu or you look at the stats on this and you say, well, I mean, should I really be freaked out on a coronavirus? | ||
| This is an unknown. This is a bioweapon. | ||
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This is an unknown. And that's why... | |
| There's so much uncertainty in the stock market. | ||
| That's why there's so much panic. | ||
| And that's why I'm still feeling up here like I'm on a high wire. | ||
| I haven't been able to go on a real vacation in a while. | ||
| I'm not complaining, but every time I have to cancel it because something comes up. | ||
| So now I'm looking at four vacations. | ||
| If I cancel my next travel plans... | ||
| I'm looking at four vacations in a row I've had to cancel because something has come up. | ||
| And it's just like, do I want to be one of those people that's afraid? | ||
| Or do I want to be one of those people that's smart? | ||
| It's like, I don't really know. | ||
| I'm still in between. | ||
| And so that's why I almost just want to open up the phone lines, just say, you know, what is going through people's head? | ||
| Because it's a wide range. | ||
| And I put up a poll on Twitter saying, About an hour, probably less than an hour ago, like 30 minutes ago. | ||
| Because I'm at, I mean, what are people thinking? | ||
| So I said, how worried are you about the coronavirus? | ||
| It's only got almost 5,000 votes. | ||
| I'm trying to get a bigger response. | ||
| But I think the responses are pretty fair from what I've seen in society. | ||
| You've got most people not worried or mildly worried. | ||
| The far majority. | ||
| And then you've got about 15% of the people that are actually really worried about that. | ||
| I'm probably right now at a mildly worried. | ||
| Now, if the question was how worried are you about tyrannical government seizing control using the coronavirus as the means, then I'd say I'm either very or extremely worried. | ||
| But that wasn't the question. | ||
| But I guess that's kind of a insinuation behind, that's the question behind the question or the answer after the question. | ||
| But even though I've got Norm Pattis coming on, who is like, I mean, whenever Norm and I sit down and talk legal stuff, it's just always great radio. | ||
| I just don't know if I can get my mind off the coronavirus stuff. | ||
| And maybe that is a personal thing because I have travel considerations. | ||
| Plus, I travel for work. | ||
| I got other work things that we're like, am I going to plan this trip? | ||
| Do I need to cancel, postpone this? | ||
| Should I go to this? So part of me is like, be smart. | ||
| Don't take the risk. If it's a 5% risk, I mean, what's the number? | ||
| Just don't take the risk. Just be smart. | ||
| Don't take the risk. You know, hunker down. | ||
| No need to travel. You don't need to do it. | ||
| Then another party's like, don't live in fear. | ||
| Don't let media hysteria, don't get punked by a false flag. | ||
| And I talked about this before, too. | ||
| I mean, my goodness, if you want to plan any travel right now, I mean, you're looking at like a quarter of the price you were looking at two, three, four months ago. | ||
| I mean, prices are down. | ||
| Gas prices are down, too, which affects travel. | ||
| I mean, it's just what a time to be alive. | ||
| Norm Pattis joins me in studio. | ||
| I've got three legal topics we're going to get into with Norm. | ||
| We've got Roger Stone. | ||
| We've got Harvey Weinstein. | ||
| We've got Hunter Biden. | ||
| Well, he just can't make it to court for those child payments he's refusing to pay and those financial documents he's refusing to turn over. | ||
| Well, he's quarantining himself over coronavirus. | ||
| How convenient for Hunter Biden. | ||
| So we're going to get into all of this with Norm, but Norm, you just brought to me... | ||
| Looks like just a fully redacted document. | ||
| Supposed to be a public trial for Roger Stone. | ||
| There seems to be a lot of free speech issues here. | ||
| You've got the questionnaire. | ||
| You're trying to get answers on that. | ||
| You've got some redacted documents. | ||
| I think where I'll begin is here, Norm. | ||
| We had a lawyer on yesterday and there was a story in the Washington Examiner just comparing the treatment of Roger Stone to Andrew McCabe. | ||
| And just on a, you know, tale of the tape, McCabe did essentially everything their claiming Stone did except as an FBI official, at least just in a court case. | ||
| You can get into other stuff. | ||
| And he got nothing. | ||
| Whereas Roger... | ||
| He was accused of all these things. | ||
| He got charged with these things. | ||
| Not an FBI official. | ||
| And he's having the book thrown at him. | ||
| So that's something that we can look at when it comes to two-tiered justice. | ||
| But you, just looking at this from a lawyer standpoint, just square looking it on, there's things that stand out to you. | ||
| What are some of those things? Well, you know, I've watched the trial from afar and only got involved, actually, when Alex and you all asked me to take a look at the trial transcript. | ||
| So I've been reading my way through it, and certain things leap out at me, and that is an extraordinary sensitivity on the judge's part to making sure that the First Amendment is not honored. | ||
| And what do I mean by that? | ||
| Any number of times, things were withheld from public view in this public trial. | ||
| So, for example, prior to trial, lawyers have the ability to file what are called motions in limine, motions at the threshold of the proceedings to prohibit certain things from happening. | ||
| If I think you're going to try to introduce evidence of the fact that my hairpiece isn't real, you know, I would do that in limine before the proceedings begin. | ||
| So it would be like, oh, I think Norm is a liar. | ||
| He wears fake hair. | ||
| And you just bring it forward and say, hey, look, I don't want the jury to hear that. | ||
| Okay. So at a hearing on motions in Lemony in this case, and I don't recall the date, forgive me. | ||
| By the way, Norm's hair is very real, I just wanted to say on record. | ||
| It is, and it's also very gray, and it's gone gray representing the good folks at InfoWars. | ||
| So keep those contributions coming, folks, because until I am completely white, I will not be a satisfied lawyer. | ||
| This coffee is great, InfoWarsStore.com. | ||
| In fact, he hasn't slept for days. | ||
| In fact, there is Miracle-Gro on my hair. | ||
| I used to be bald. Actually, that's true. I haven't slept in days. | ||
| But in any case... You know, the government filed a motion to limit proof as to certain newspaper articles that were likely to become evidence at trial. | ||
| And the court held that this hearing should take place out of the public view. | ||
| So I'm showing your viewers what a court transcript looks like. | ||
| This is page 41 of 99 of the proceedings. | ||
| And you can see, I hope, that it's composed of texts and each page has line numbers. | ||
| And you can say, you know, that on page 41 at line 14, somebody said the defendant may not cast aspersion on the prosecution's decision-making. | ||
| Really? I mean, really? | ||
| I'm being put on trial by my government. | ||
| A jury is being asked to hold me accountable and I can't hold the government accountable for its decision-making? | ||
| Which part of the Sixth Amendment's right to a fair trial is that interrogation of? | ||
| But in any case, I digress. | ||
| So that's what a transcript looks like. | ||
| Now, at the hearing, the government moved in limine at the threshold to prevent certain newspaper articles or evidence about certain newspaper articles from being something. | ||
| And I don't know what. And I don't know what because when you look at the transcript, this is what you see. | ||
| The press was apparently kicked out of the courtroom. | ||
| And page 53, you see all these redacted lines, blacked out lines. | ||
| Page 54. Page 55. | ||
| And it goes on to page 74. | ||
| So for 20 full pages, or the rough equivalent of about 40 minutes of court time, whatever happened in that courtroom is not being held open to public view. | ||
| Why? What was it about some newspaper stories that was so earth-shattering that we the people could not know about it? | ||
| I can't tell from the transcript. | ||
| I just want to have a little more clarity on this. | ||
| So this is beyond, though, just whatever was in those stories. | ||
| This is also discussions that were being had in the courtroom about those stories? | ||
| Absolutely. Yes. Yeah. | ||
| Just give any context to what they could have been. | ||
| Absolutely. Let me read it to you. | ||
| Here's what the judge says. | ||
| You know, we're going to reconvene for the pretrial conference later. | ||
| All right, I think you'd rather go on and deal with the other evidentiary issues and motions in limine, which we have to deal with in a sealed courtroom. | ||
| And we can take our break and then we can come back and talk about exhibits. | ||
| So while that involves closing and reopening the courtroom, I still think that makes sense. | ||
| I'm going to ask because we're about to talk about sealed motions. | ||
| Anyone who is not either with the defense or the prosecution team leave the courtroom at this time. | ||
| We're going to close the courtroom at this time and we're going to turn off the feed to other rooms. | ||
| And then we have this extraordinary discussion. | ||
| About what? Obviously, there were secret grand jury proceedings that led to the indictment of Mr. | ||
| Stone. And for purposes of this discussion, let's accept grand jury secrecy. | ||
| But a motion in limine about publicly produced newspaper articles ought not to produce a sealed hearing. | ||
| Now, I don't know, you know, Mr. | ||
| Stone's lawyers appear to have been a little less aggressive than they might have been on First Amendment topics. | ||
| I'm not sure why they agreed to that. | ||
| More significantly, however, and that was just an aside on the way to the main event. | ||
| You know, we've filed a motion to intervene on behalf of a journalist to try to get access to confidential juror questionnaires, in particular the questionnaire of the foreperson. | ||
| We don't know their name. | ||
| Well, I do know their name, but I'm barred from court order from uttering it. | ||
| And as an officer of the court, I have to obey that order. | ||
| What if I said it? Am I allowed to say it? | ||
| The order doesn't reach to you. | ||
| Tamika Hart. Juror number 1261 filled out a questionnaire, as did every juror coming into the voir dire pool. | ||
| And that questionnaire was a 20-page document consisting of approximately 50 questions. | ||
| Actually, a little bit more than 50 questions. | ||
| Here's question number 23. | ||
| Listen to this question. Have you written or posted anything for public consumption about the defendant, the House permanent select committee on intelligence investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, or the investigation conducted by Robert Mueller? | ||
| If yes, describe them. | ||
| Do we know whether 1261 wrote about that? | ||
| Next question. Have you or a friend ever run for political office in federal, state, or local government? | ||
| Well, we know that 1261 once ran for Congress as a Democrat. | ||
| How is it that this person who ran for Congress as a Democrat slipped through on jury selection? | ||
| The follow-up to question 24, if yes, that is, you'd run for office, if yes, would anything about the person's running for office, in other words, you're running for Congress as a Democrat, would anything about your running for Congress as a Democrat cause you to form an opinion about the defendant's guilt or innocence in this case or affect your ability to be fair to both sides? | ||
| Given the partisan character of the votes on impeachment, if the juror answered no to that question, I'd be stunned. | ||
| If she answered yes to that question, um, um, You know, I mean, that requires a further explanation. | ||
| The fact of the matter is, Stone's lawyers have good grounds to question whether the juror, whether juror 1261, was truthful in her response to question number 24. | ||
| If she was not truthful, that would be a species of jury misconduct that would warrant a new trial. | ||
| Because Mr. Stone, like all defendants in the United States, is entitled to a fair trial before an impartial juror. | ||
| The purpose of voir dire is to screen out bias. | ||
| I would find it implausible that a Democratic congressional candidate could be fair and impartial in the Roger Stone trial. | ||
| Just not plausible at all. | ||
| And just to be clear, I didn't talk to Norm about this before we come on. | ||
| I'm speculating as a broadcaster who the foreman or forewoman can be. | ||
| This is unbeknownst to the audience as far as Norm's words are concerned. | ||
| So just going on record with that. | ||
| We'll talk more about the implications of this. | ||
| This is like coronavirus for the judicial system, though. | ||
| I mean, that's what we're talking about here. | ||
| We'll be right back. Welcome back in InfoWars War Room. | ||
| Norm Pattis, always a privilege to be joined by Norm on air. | ||
| All his legal expertise, just the great conversations we have. | ||
| So let's talk about implications of... | ||
| Potential jury activity here that would be uncouth to the process. | ||
| Really, I believe it's a crime to lie, to wittingly lie on the jury questionnaire. | ||
| And so let's say that some of these Some of these speculations are true. | ||
| Some people would say they're not speculations, but we'll call them speculations that the jury was, I mean, you can say rigged, whatever you want. | ||
| As you were saying, how can a juror who's run for office fill out that they never ran for office on a questionnaire and then still be accepted into the jury? | ||
| Where is the process? | ||
| Why isn't this taking place here? | ||
| Well, let's say there were some fictitious claims, some fictitious answers on a jury questionnaire. | ||
| What is the implication now on those jurors and the jury and then the trial at large? | ||
| Well, first I should say we've not yet had a chance to see the questionnaire. | ||
| We've asked the court for permission to see it, so I don't know what it says. | ||
| I do believe she disclosed, contrary to what I've seen in the press, I do believe that she disclosed she ran for office because I see in the trial transcript itself her being questioned about running for office. | ||
| So I think that's in... And that was like the post-trial where they were debating a mistrial. | ||
| Oh, no, no. In the transcript of the voir dire, the jury selection process. | ||
| Oh, this was at the beginning of it. | ||
| Right. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. | ||
| But let's suppose that the juror lied or was less than truthful on their questionnaire and didn't make a full and complete disclosure. | ||
| That implicates Mr. | ||
| Stone's fair trial rights. | ||
| Now the judge suggested that it was the fault of his lawyers for not doing a better screening of her social media account. | ||
| In effect, in my mind, sidestepping the issue of Mr. Stone's fair trial rights. | ||
| If his lawyers missed it, well, shame on his lawyers. | ||
| However, it's now before the court and it is the court's responsibility to assure a And public confidence in the jury trial system only remains high when we can trust the outcomes. | ||
| And a bad juror infected the outcome. | ||
| So the solution is a mistrial and a new trial for Roger Stone. | ||
| I think that's what should happen. | ||
| There are post-trial motions asking for that relief. | ||
| The court hasn't decided them. | ||
| She will soon. Our justice system is perfect in so many ways, but then imperfect in so many ways. | ||
| Like you were saying in the break, we rely on integrity of process. | ||
| We rely on integrity of participants. | ||
| And as soon as that's sold out, as soon as that's gone, the whole judicial system can fall apart. | ||
| But in another way, It provides the opportunity for probably the fairest justice system in the world, I think most people would argue. | ||
| But we're looking at unprecedented grounds here. | ||
| If I'm Roger Stone's lawyers and somebody says, well, I didn't post on social media from here to here because, you know, whatever reason. | ||
| Okay, well, how do I actually know that, right? | ||
| How do I know that? You could have a hundred different accounts. | ||
| They could be under a hundred different names. | ||
| So, I mean... At what level, and this is just a microcosm, there could be so many separate examples of this, at what level do you have to now say, okay, well, you have to prove that statement? | ||
| Like, I mean, how do you even invoke an investigation to prove whether or not that's true? | ||
| I don't think you do. I think, you know, we still believe in the efficacy and power of an oath. | ||
| That when a person stands in court and swears to tell the truth, whether they affirm or swear on a Bible, that that oath means something. | ||
| If a person chooses to lie and chooses to cover their track, then the side challenging that person's averment, their swearing of the oath, it's their responsibility to come forward with affirmative proof. | ||
| That's going to be impossible if somebody uses a series of pseudonyms. | ||
| Right, right. You get up there, you take the oath, there's a presumption that the oath means something. | ||
| If I've done an investigation and can show that your oath is meaningless, then you'll face the same sort of trial that Roger Stone did, a trial for obstructing justice. | ||
| I don't know, there's really no better answer than that. | ||
| For example, there's a very shocking piece of... | ||
| anecdote that floats through the Connecticut courts, that's my home jurisdiction, that there once was a lawyer who put a person on the witness stand who didn't exist. This person claimed to have the name Joe Blow and to have a witnessed certain things occurring that didn't in fact occur. It was out-and-out perjury and that the lawyer knowingly did that. The person got on the stand and swore to be a person who doesn't exist. | ||
| When I heard that, you know, I was stunned because I thought of any of the hundreds if not thousands people I've put on the witness stand whose identity I never checked. | ||
| You know, if I'm investigating a claim and my client says I was with Owen that night at Hooters, I know that you don't go to Hooters, I was at Owen's last night at a Benedictine monastery practicing my prayers. | ||
| Thank you. Okay, you know, I don't think I'm required to check your identification card to see that you're in fact Owen Schroer. | ||
| But when I heard that story, I thought, why don't we do that? | ||
| And you know, that's the real danger of the post-truth era. | ||
| That's the real danger of us living in independent silos where we think that the ends justify the means. | ||
| Once truth becomes a coin that can be traded for other things of value, the integrity of the criminal justice system is bankrupt. | ||
| And I think we're perilously close to that. | ||
| Yeah, and unfortunately, the more you know, the more you start to fear that. | ||
| That's why I said this example here of the Roger Stone case is like coronavirus for the justice system. | ||
| Yeah, and that's what makes the sealed character of the transcript so troubling. | ||
| That's what makes the court's reluctance to publicize the juror's questionnaire troubling. | ||
| We'll talk about why that's troubling. | ||
| You've been, we'll say, decades. | ||
| We won't age you. You've been in courts dealing with judges and lawyers and all kinds of cases for decades. | ||
| You've almost seen it all. | ||
| Well, you haven't seen it all. Have you ever seen this before? | ||
| I don't know. I object to so much that goes on on a routine basis in the courtroom that Outrage and I are close friends. | ||
| I don't recall ever seeing a piece of transcript where a judge redacted a discussion of something that had already been published in the news. | ||
| I don't recall seeing that. | ||
| I remind you, this discussion was about articles that had been published in newspapers, presumably in public view. | ||
| What could be said about those that would be so extraordinary that it needed to be sealed? | ||
| I don't recall having juror questionnaires kept from public view. | ||
| The judge seemed to be concerned to protect the integrity of the criminal justice process and to protect jurors against interference from third parties. | ||
| Yeah, I get that. | ||
| And, you know, her position is, you know, jurors don't volunteer for this. | ||
| They're conscripted. I'm entitled and required to protect them in the interest of justice. | ||
| Maybe. But maybe a juror who's so worried about the truths they utter under oath that they want protection from the public view ought not to be a juror at all. | ||
| The courts are open for a reason. | ||
| They do justice in all of our names. | ||
| And the disputes that the government picks with individual citizens are significant to everyone because they've been picked by the government. | ||
| So my position is that the court did no favor to the public. | ||
| She did no favor to confidence in the courts by sealing so much of these proceedings. | ||
| And her decision to consider at the time of sentencing. | ||
| I reread the sentencing transcript this morning in anticipation of coming on air. | ||
| One of the factors she put in her sentencing decision was the fact that Stone had been vocally critical of the administration of justice, of the government, of the court system in the course of the proceedings. | ||
| So what? | ||
| This is why we have a republic. | ||
| If we hadn't been vocally critical of government, we'd have a Union Jack hanging in the corner and I'd be saying, m'lady, to the Queen. | ||
| I say neither and I don't pay homage to the Union Jack. | ||
| We the people govern and we have open courts. | ||
| So I find the Stone case deeply troubling. | ||
| I'm not a partisan in this instance. | ||
| I've never met Mr. Stone. | ||
| I know he's a friend of the show. | ||
| I haven't been put up to saying this. | ||
| But the public... | ||
| The obfuscation in this trial, the blatant and gross disregard for the First Amendment, the suspicious manner in which documents and portions of the transcript were kept for public view are grounds, in my view, sufficient unto themselves to grant a pardon to Roger Stone. | ||
| Either give them a new trial or set them free, but end the charade. | ||
| This wasn't justice. Well, and I was going to say, too, if there's like a scorebook or a tally sheet or something, just on technicalities alone, you're looking at a mistrial here. | ||
| It's like it shouldn't even be debated. | ||
| I have not studied the entire trial transcript. | ||
| Getting a mistrial is difficult, but I do know that I've had cases where it was learned during jury deliberations that a juror was less than candid and voir dire, and that's been enough to stop the proceedings. | ||
| I think we're in that position right here. | ||
| Norm Pattis is with us, legal expert. | ||
| We're going to switch lanes when we come back. | ||
| We'll talk about Harvey Weinstein getting sentenced. | ||
| And then, well, I guess if you want to avoid going to court, just say you have coronavirus. | ||
| That's the Hunter Biden move. | ||
| If you want to avoid turning over financial records in your books, if you want to avoid making child payments, just say, hey, I'm in quarantine. | ||
| Coronavirus, baby. And then, you know, you're Hunter Biden. | ||
| You're out of the picture. You're good. | ||
| Last segment with Norm Pattis. | ||
| We could talk for hours. You should probably just get out of here before we end up talking all night. | ||
| I know you got work to do. But the two things I wanted to bend Norm's ear about here was the Harvey Weinstein sentence and then, you know, the legalities of Hunter Biden basically skipping court. | ||
| Like you said, well, when my dad's president, I wouldn't have to worry about this. | ||
| But Harvey Weinstein sentenced 23 years in New York. | ||
| There's obviously stuff going on. | ||
| He wants to be in some sort of special care. | ||
| He's sick now all of a sudden. | ||
| They have him in Rikers. | ||
| He is, last I checked, was in a hospital unit, I believe. | ||
| So I don't know the exact details of that. | ||
| But he also has court cases in Los Angeles right now. | ||
| So what does this look like for Harvey Weinstein? | ||
| Just got sentenced in New York, but still has ongoing litigation in Los Angeles. | ||
| His future is grim, but his immediate prospects are not as bad as they look. | ||
| The judge would not consider a reasonable bond at the time of sentencing, or at the time he was convicted. | ||
| He was remanded to custody immediately. | ||
| Now he begins the custodial portion of his sentence, and given his age, it's a life sentence. | ||
| He has taken an appeal, however, of the initial bond denial and his lawyers can amend that pleading to include a motion for bond pending the results of appeal. | ||
| Alan Dershowitz from Harvard is rumored to be handling that. | ||
| I've spoken to someone close to Weinstein and I believe this to be true. | ||
| And he's got a great argument on appeal. | ||
| In this case, prosecutors took a huge risk and they called a so-called forensic psychologist to testify about the behavior of victims of rape. | ||
| Could a woman be raped and nonetheless go back to her attacker for consensual sex? | ||
| And this forensic psychologist said yes they could and in fact they do. | ||
| That testimony should never have been permitted in a trial because the forensic psychologist doesn't know in fact which of the women who claimed to be raped were in fact raped. | ||
| So there could be false positives in his... | ||
| So it's a false pretense? It's a pretense that can't be challenged. | ||
| This move is common in child sex cases given what's called delayed and incremental disclosure. | ||
| Why does a six-year-old wait until they're 17 to make a disclosure? | ||
| Why does the disclosure appear to be inconsistent? | ||
| Why does the child say that X is true one day, non-X the following? | ||
| You can find a psychologist to justify all of that in terms of the trauma of rape. | ||
| And so I'm guessing this was the prosecution that brought forward this forensic... | ||
| And there was an objection on the part of the defendant. | ||
| And in the wake of the Weinstein conviction, the press reported this as a path-breaking move in the prosecution of rape cases. | ||
| I view it as a path-breaking, catastrophic move because these experts will explain anything, even the most unusual behavior, and say, yes, it's all consistent with having been assaulted. | ||
| The problem is the jury's there to decide the very issue the forensic psychologist assumes to be true. | ||
| Did an assault take place at all? | ||
| So you can't have this person come in and commit to a proposition that's been unproved and then use that unproven proposition as proof of the proposition. | ||
| That's circular reasoning that the courts ought not to permit. | ||
| And so I think that Weinstein, Dershowitz and company have an excellent chance to overturn the conviction on that basis. | ||
| One of the factors that a court considers in bond upon conviction is the likelihood of success on appeal. | ||
| If this were an entirely frivolous issue, there'd be no prospect for Bond. | ||
| So I think Harvey has a decent shot at Bond. | ||
| If he doesn't make it, what becomes of the California case? | ||
| This falls into the category of things I call the vagaries of federalism. | ||
| California is a separate and independent government. | ||
| It has its own interest in prosecuting Weinstein. | ||
| They can insist on the prosecution. | ||
| How's he going to get from New York to California? | ||
| The states interact with one another through what are called interstate compacts, much like peace treaties. | ||
| So California will have to petition New York under a governor's warrant to have New York produce Mr. | ||
| Weinstein. California will have to send agents to New York to accompany Mr. | ||
| Weinstein back to California. | ||
| And if all the I's are dotted and the T's crossed, he'll be remanded to California for a separate trial. | ||
| If he's convicted in California, the judge will have the discretion to either send him to time served at the same time the New York sentence runs. | ||
| That's called concurrent time or consecutive time to make the sentences serve afterwards. | ||
| So we'll see. There's a lot to watch there. | ||
| And you know, this is interesting too. | ||
| It's kind of like... I don't know if it's fair to say it's a two-sided coin here, but we'll just say it's kind of the opposite side of the coin of the Stone trial. | ||
| I'm not standing up for Harvey Weinstein's character. | ||
| Let me be very clear. The guy was obviously a dirtbag. | ||
| The court decided he was a rapist even. | ||
| But... I think there is a little bit of... | ||
| You've got to kind of wonder if you're Harvey Weinstein. | ||
| I think he has a fair case to say this was politicized. | ||
| There was so much media on this case. | ||
| I mean, how are you a judge sitting in there with all the cameras on you? | ||
| How are you going to say, okay, innocent? | ||
| Or how is a jury going to say, oh, okay, innocent, with all the pressure that's on you? | ||
| Again, I'm not standing up for Harvey Weinstein or his character. | ||
| I'm saying they're... I would feel like that is a fair point to make that, hey, you know what, this case was politicized as well, and everybody wanted Harvey Weinstein's scalp. | ||
| I think that's true. | ||
| And his lawyer, Ms. | ||
| Ratuno, attorney Ratuno from Chicago, did an excellent job of preserving issues on appeal. | ||
| Among them, the judge tried to bar her from speaking and did bar her from speaking to the press during trial and gag order. | ||
| She should have taken an immediate appeal and did not. | ||
| But it would seem to me that when the world scorns you and the press has decided you're guilty, your lawyer has the right to come out swinging with both fists. | ||
| And Harvey's team was told to try the case with one hand behind their backs, and that's fundamentally unfair. | ||
| You know what? I've got actually good news for you. | ||
| I can't believe I haven't told you this. | ||
| We've been so distracted. I've got good news for you. | ||
| I've got all my community service confirmed. | ||
| I was going to ask you about that. | ||
| We'll do it right here on air. | ||
| I got it confirmed. | ||
| I got it confirmed back in D.C. I got all the times laid out. | ||
| Oh yeah, we're good to go. | ||
| That means I don't get to see you in DC next month. | ||
| Well, so, but that's what I was going to say though. | ||
| I mean, let's say, I mean, it's not going to be a problem. | ||
| Obviously, we've passed everything so far to this point. | ||
| I just need to complete my community service, not get an arrest. | ||
| Oh, there's the rub. | ||
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Be careful at the city council tomorrow night. | |
| We'll be careful anyway. | ||
| But let's just say I decided that I'm not going to do my community service. | ||
| And then my court date comes around and I tell the judge, buzz off! | ||
| I've got coronavirus. I can't leave my house to do community service. | ||
| I can't leave my house to come to your court. | ||
| You know, just buzz off. That's what Hunter Biden is doing to avoid turning over financial records, avoid making child payments. | ||
| I'm being facetious in my analogy using my case. | ||
| The joke, or my question is, I mean... | ||
| Is there any legal precedent for this? | ||
| Well, there is and there isn't. | ||
| I recall once appearing in a jurisdiction where a young client of mine was going to be flying in from out of state, and I got a call from him the night before saying, I don't feel well. | ||
| Should I try to be there nonetheless? | ||
| I made the right move, though. | ||
| And I may have said to that hypothetical client, who, by the way, had the name Owen Troyer, no, don't worry about it, don't go. | ||
| I told that story on air, yeah. | ||
| And I'll cover for you. | ||
| And it happens. | ||
| And so I think you get a pass once or twice. | ||
| Now coronavirus is going to create a whole new opportunity for people who want to avoid things and they're going to claim fear. | ||
| And, you know, as we push our, you know, the fact of the matter is the virus is either going to kill us all or not. | ||
| And if it doesn't, we're going to have to have institutions that continue to function. | ||
| The courts are like everybody else, the stock market, businesses, the city of Austin in canceling South by Southwest. | ||
| It's feeling its way along. | ||
| So I think right now Mr. | ||
| Biden gets a pass. He won't get it indefinitely. | ||
| The case can be continued until the crisis passes. | ||
| I didn't realize that he'd had such an interesting backstory. | ||
| So I think, you know, assuming it's his child, he's got child support obligations, and I don't care if my daddy is president of the United States. | ||
| If you produce the child, you support it. | ||
| And that's the beginning and the end of that story. | ||
| Well, and the weird thing to me is, regarding this case, the baby right now is 16 months old. | ||
| So, I mean, when you talk about child support payments, it's really not that much. | ||
| He should be able to afford it. | ||
| I mean, you know, but for him to not want to pay it and then refuse the financial records, that's a little alarming. | ||
| You know, his dad might be able to arrange something with Burisma. | ||
| I don't know if she'll accept payment of child support in something other than the United States currency. | ||
| And I don't know whether Congress would be interested in it. | ||
| If it is, do not appear at that impeachment hearing and discuss it. | ||
| I will not be there. | ||
| I believe I will... | ||
| I'm going to be silent as a church mouse in D.C. till June 26th. | ||
| Okay. Upon completion of, you know, any said agreements that I need to uphold by then, which will be no problem. | ||
| It's funny, we probably wouldn't even have talked about that if I didn't just think about it and bring it up on air. | ||
| I wouldn't have, but you're privileged to wave, but here we are. | ||
| Well, we're past the bumpy roads, hopefully. | ||
| And so now it's just a matter of me getting it all done, which it will be done. | ||
| Wow, though. It's been a lot of stuff that we've witnessed here in the court cases. | ||
| You, yourself, with Roger Stone, with Biden, now Weinstein. | ||
| And I'm glad though, I'm glad that when I made that fateful call to you, you suggested don't get on the plane, don't travel, you're sick, the judge will understand. | ||
| And it was a good thing because I was out for a week straight, couldn't get out of bed. | ||
| You know, it didn't occur to me that you were malingering. | ||
| That's what it's called when a person doesn't want to come to court. | ||
| And I think the court will give anyone who... | ||
| I'm set to begin jury selection in New Haven, Connecticut, on Monday in a case. | ||
| And as I sit here right now, I guess it's Wednesday, I don't know whether they'll still be calling jurors in at that point. | ||
| I think at some point there'll be enough public apprehension about appearing in public that it might be hard to find six people who want to sit in a small room for two weeks and listen to some testimony. | ||
| Yeah. So I think we've got challenges ahead. | ||
| I don't know what's true about it. | ||
| I'm concerned. I traveled here from Connecticut. | ||
| Corona elbow. Corona elbow. | ||
| I'm looking for a Corona beer later so I can get a photo of it with my wife. | ||
| Oh, we didn't even talk about that. | ||
| Yeah, the coronavirus beer virus. | ||
| So Milo Yiannopoulos is so committed to exercising right now. | ||
| He sprinted into studio and he's not even winded. | ||
| I'm impressed. No, two months ago I would have been... | ||
| I was sounding like a fat person because I was one. | ||
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And now? Now I'm mildly fat. | |
| You're at the beginning stages. | ||
| I'm where you were a year ago. | ||
| You're at the beginning stages. Oh, yeah. | ||
| I'm in your little pudgy phase. | ||
| Here we go. My pudgy phase. | ||
| No, I used to be able to poke you and the indentation would stay for about four seconds and gradually come out. | ||
| That's like NASA technology. | ||
| No, they were trying to patent you for a long time. | ||
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That's what I'm saying. They wanted to make pillows and mattresses. | |
| I'm not selling this body. | ||
| You could put that in a crack in the spacecraft and seal the vacuum. | ||
| No, they had a leak on the ISS. They called me up. | ||
| Get Owen up. I was like, I'm sorry. | ||
| No price. Just put a fold in there. | ||
| You can't afford me. They said, we're NASA. We can literally afford anything. | ||
| Well, no, they've spent all their money on the new Obama incentives that they were given, which had less to do with exploring space and more to do with the self-confidence of the Islamic world. | ||
| So one of NASA's major objectives for a decade was to help the self-confidence of the Muslim world, help them feel good about the fact that they don't have any technological accomplishments. | ||
| That's what NASA should be doing. | ||
| That's what they were doing under Obama for a decade. | ||
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How did that work out for the Muslim world? | |
| Not much has changed. | ||
| I was going to say, I haven't seen the difference. | ||
| Well, nuclear reactors in Pakistan, which of course are bought somewhere else, shipped to Pakistan, they don't know how they work. | ||
| They just know what buttons to press to switch them on. | ||
| And there are Pakistani nuclear scientists who describe nuclear reactors as being powered by gin, which is the Islamic version of genies. | ||
| So they don't know how these things work. | ||
| They just buy them from us, which is reassuring, isn't it? | ||
| By the way, Milo is in studio today. | ||
| He's got a new book. | ||
| Is it out? Is it coming out? | ||
| Actually, about two hours before I sat down here, it just popped up on Amazon. | ||
| So you can find it on Amazon now. Congratulations! | ||
| Thank you! This is your third book? | ||
| Fifth, but some of them have been small. | ||
| So it's the third serious one. Okay, okay. | ||
| That's what I was saying. Okay, well, congratulations to you. | ||
| Thank you. There it is. | ||
| Read this book. It's a warning, Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Did he forward this for you? He blurbed it for me. | ||
| Okay. Milo Yiannopoulos, The Trial of Roger Stone. | ||
| We've been talking about this today. | ||
| Egregious, at best, what has happened to Roger Stone. | ||
| I don't know if you want to get deep into that. | ||
| If you want to talk about coronavirus. | ||
| I'm bored of coronavirus having had it. | ||
| I'm sort of sick of the subject. | ||
| I understand, but you know, I gotta... | ||
| It wasn't very nice. Can you confirm that you've had it? | ||
| Okay, so the way it's been working is they charge the doctor $2,000 or $3,000 for the test, and you can't even get the test unless you can prove... | ||
| Are you talking to Raheem Kassam, too? | ||
| I have been talking to Raheem. | ||
| Okay, because he's going through this. By the way, they're attacking him. | ||
| They're attacking him for this. | ||
| I'm like, thank God he's doing this. | ||
| No, of course. So Raheem and I are in the same situation, which is that we're absolutely sure that we had it because we know we had contact with someone who is confirmed to have had it. | ||
| But our doctors could not persuade the CDC to send a test kit. | ||
| They wouldn't even take our money. | ||
| What the hell is that? | ||
| Well, because they don't have enough test kits. | ||
| See, but I don't buy that. This is manufactured scarcity. | ||
| I really believe that. | ||
| How can they not have tested? | ||
| Is it like Sri Lanka's tested like 20,000 people or something? | ||
| South Korea, they have mobile testing centers. | ||
| The U.S. has tested centers. | ||
| Yeah, like, oh yeah, we don't know what's going on here. | ||
| This is America, this supposed superpower, you silly parochial loonies. | ||
| I love people who think that America is part of the first world. | ||
| It's a very charming view that you have about yourselves. | ||
| This silly parochial place you all live in, 330 million... | ||
| Wait a second, you live here? You haven't been able to... | ||
| You live in New Jersey! | ||
| They're shutting New Jersey down! | ||
| In fact, you might not even be able to get back in! | ||
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Don't question me. How will you feel if you get blocked out of New Jersey? | |
| Well, I will break in. | ||
| I will evacuate my harem. | ||
| I believe it. And we will retreat to Florida. | ||
| But seriously, though, let's talk about the logistics of this. | ||
| I, unlike you, can risk getting arrested. | ||
| Is the weather nice in Florida right now? | ||
| I don't know. I haven't been back for a while, but it's always pretty good. | ||
| We may have to look into that together. | ||
| All right, but let's get serious, though. | ||
| On the other side of this break... | ||
| Did Milo have the coronavirus? | ||
| Did I have the coronavirus? Can we even find out? | ||
| That's the real... Excuse me. | ||
| Can we even find out? We'll be right back. | ||
| This just in. | ||
| Milo Yiannopoulos likes steak. | ||
| Why is that surprising to you? | ||
| When did I say I was surprised? | ||
| Wait, is this just in? | ||
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Well, you just told me! I'm a reporter! | |
| This just in, does it not, infers, it implies a level of newsworthiness. | ||
| Is that not news? | ||
| Is it news? I think so. | ||
| Is it surprising to anybody? | ||
| I'm a little surprised. | ||
| Why? What do you think I live on? | ||
| I don't know. You could be a vegan or something. | ||
| It's all the rage these days. | ||
| Yeah. No? | ||
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Classic vegan. You could be paleo? | |
| Don't try me because I am going to shave your beard off. | ||
| I'm going to come for you in the middle of the night and I'm going to Samson you. | ||
| So do not try me. | ||
| Do not try me. | ||
| Will I lose my power? | ||
| You have a power to lose that we don't know about? | ||
| Yeah, but it can't be lost with the beard. | ||
| The beard has different power, but not the type. | ||
| No, no. No, okay. | ||
| These are different powers. I feel like we're wandering off topic. | ||
| Well, that could be topical, because actually what Milo and I have been debating is doing some form of fundraiser, and whoever raises the most money, if I raise the most money, I get to shave his head bald, a la Alex Jones, and if he raises the most money, he can shave my face, which he's been dying to do for a long time. | ||
| But don't you feel, if you don't mind me saying, and perhaps the viewers will have their own opinions about this, me shaving my head is somewhat more dramatic than you shaving your beard. | ||
| So if you lose, I feel like there should be something in addition to the beard. | ||
| I feel like the physical change... | ||
| It's much more of a punishment for me. | ||
| Here's what I say. I think as far as the physical change, you shaving your head bald, probably more of a punishment. | ||
| However, my beard is kind of a sense of my identity. | ||
| My beard has its own social media accounts. | ||
| It's got its own gravity at this point. | ||
| Exactly. So at this point, you're killing off the economy if you take my beard out. | ||
| No. People are losing jobs. | ||
| Think about the razor companies, the barbers, the social media giants. | ||
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Let me... You're not thinking clearly on this. | |
| Let me help you out and tell viewers what you unfortunately forgot to, which was that the fundraiser would, of course, be for the Stone Defense Fund for our friend Roger, subject of the trial of Roger Stone, which has just hit Amazon, in which I do talk about some of the sealed documents as far as I can that your last guest was alluding to. | ||
| I can go a bit further since I'm not an officer of the court. | ||
| Well, actually, let's talk about that. | ||
| So that was what we had discussed. | ||
| Doing basically for Stone Defense Fund, whoever raised the most, the other would cut their hair, their beard. | ||
| But moving on from that, let's talk about your book. | ||
| Because what... | ||
| Obviously you know Roger, but what is it that spurred you to write this book? | ||
| And what kind of access or information is in this book that is going to be uniquely presented to the audience, to the reader? | ||
| Right. So your previous guest was exactly right when he talked about the... | ||
| The sacrosanct nature of the law in America and the fact that America is a country of laws has jurisprudence in place of monarchy. | ||
| Rather than the autocratic rule of a king or a queen, America has a system of laws. | ||
| And that system, it's sort of the sacred basis of that system, which is a commandment not to bear false witness, is the central underpinning architecture of American civilization. | ||
| Because if we can't trust our fellow citizens to tell the truth For instance, in their jury questionnaires, then the whole compact between citizen and government begins to unravel because it's the judiciary that act as the check on the other two branches of government. | ||
| It's the judiciary through which citizens have recourse, have redress, right? | ||
| It's the judiciary that assures Americans that this is a country of laws, that it's a country that doesn't tolerate corruption. | ||
| That it's a country in which everybody is equal before the law. | ||
| But also as kind of a back check with the jury to say, you know what, every day even the law is being examined. | ||
| Even the law is being questioned. | ||
| Correct, correct. And this is, you know, that's the whole thing about, you know, precedent and trouble. | ||
| Anyway, the point is that this case is probably, whatever you think of Roger Stone now, of course, you know, we happen to be fans and devotees and some of us are personal friends of Roger's. | ||
| Whatever you think about, Roger, the cold facts of this case, divorced from the political dimension, Almost certainly show this as a big break with that historic tradition of fairness. | ||
| Now, it's a consequence of the fallibility of man that miscarriages of justice will happen. | ||
| They will always happen. Man is corruptible. | ||
| Right, and you will never be able to avoid a situation in which juries refuse to convict for some unrelated reason, as with the OJ verdict, for instance, most people now think. | ||
| You know, the jury probably knew he was guilty, they just wouldn't convict him, right? | ||
| There's not very much you can do about that, but you can do something about rogue members of the judiciary, about judges, who not only permit, but knowingly permit perjury in order to achieve, to secure political objectives. | ||
| And it's very difficult to avoid not just the suspicion, but the conclusion that this is what has happened in this case. | ||
| The If you look at Tamika Hart, whom we're able to identify because she identified herself, she came out, she forfeited her privacy, there's no issue with us doing that, as did Seth Cousins, who is another juror who outed himself in the Washington Post. | ||
| When you look into the questionnaires of these people, the social media accounts and so on and so forth, there are things in there that are so grotesquely disqualifying Things that the judge would have had access to. | ||
| Things that both the defence and the prosecution knew. | ||
| In fact, I happen to have seen all of the jury questionnaires, unredacted, and I have included as much of them as I can in the book without risking myself getting hauled into court for contempt. | ||
| And I can give you some generalisations about it. | ||
| For instance, five of the twelve are lawyers or married to lawyers. | ||
| Two of them worked for democratic senators and one of them worked for a democratic congressman. | ||
| A full ten, ten of the twelve, claim to have no opinion whatsoever about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Julian Assange, Eric Prince and Steve Bannon, to say nothing of Roger Stone himself. | ||
| Now we're expected to believe that a jury of highly educated news junkies, all of whom gave left-wing sources as their trusted news sources, not a single one of which gave any right-wing news source when asked where they get their news. | ||
| We're expected to believe that these news junkies, one of whom listed 13 different news sources, including HuffPost and BuzzFeed is where she got her news, were expected to believe that these people had no opinion at all about these very famous people. | ||
| There's another jury questionnaire in which the handwriting changes very dramatically. | ||
| And this is not like a kind of, ooh, is that a bit... | ||
| It's completely different. | ||
| And the way you know that is the direction of the check marks flips and then flips back again. | ||
| So it's like as if it was a right-handed versus a left-handed. | ||
| Precisely so. As though the juror was being assisted in filling it out. | ||
| And that's where you go beyond what an officer of court would be able to say. | ||
| And I can say it as an author. | ||
| That's where you go beyond... | ||
| The judges' negligence and into a whole new arena where you have to ask, was this jury really randomly selected? | ||
| Because if it was, the demographics of this jury don't just not match the country, but they don't even match Washington, D.C., in which it's already practically impossible for a Republican to get fair time. | ||
| They already have the numbers on their side. | ||
| In D.C., it's a 95 percent... | ||
| Which is not even where Roger lives. | ||
| Right. No, no, but that's another question. | ||
| The jurisdiction and the judge and all the rest of it, there was a motion to get it moved to a more proper location. | ||
| This itself is a violation of another amendment. | ||
| I mean, you know, in the book I sketch out four different amendments in the Bill of Rights that I think have been comprehensively violated in this case. | ||
| That Roger's rights have been tossed out. | ||
| And in some respects, the First Amendment is the least important, because although it has prevented him from defending himself in public, he wouldn't even speak to me for the book. | ||
| He can't, you know? Right. | ||
| Although it prevents him from defending himself in the public square, it's the right to a fair jury trial and stuff like that which is determining whether he's going to go away or not. | ||
| And the other thing that really made me want to write the book is when you think about the extraordinary violation of basic judicial norms, basic American norms in this case... | ||
| And all of the consequences that that may have for the future, you know, the next party gets in and they're doing it to us and then we're doing it to them, this doesn't serve the American people. | ||
| It doesn't serve them at all. When you add to that the fact that this was a vindictive, politically motivated prosecution that won't be fixed with a presidential pardon, we're all sitting here wondering why Donald Trump hasn't pardoned Stone or at least commuted his sentence. | ||
| But that wouldn't even fix the problem because Roger Stone's been bankrupted. | ||
| All of his wealth, all of his wealth, his savings, his house, it's all gone. | ||
| And no presidential partner is ever going to bring that back. | ||
| Yeah, how do you even write that? | ||
| Milo Yiannopoulos' new book came out today. | ||
| First interview he's doing is here on The War Room. | ||
| You've got to like that. So we'll be right back with Milo Yiannopoulos' new book, The Roger Stone Trial, and more. | ||
| I'm going to go get a fresh cup of coffee from iforstore.com. | ||
| I'll be right back. Welcome back. | ||
| Oh, the commies are dancing. | ||
| Look at them go, Milo! | ||
| Who is it? Those are the London commies dancing to stop climate change. | ||
| Out now. Well, yeah. | ||
| No, actually, those guys are actually outside the studio right now. | ||
| That's outside the studio cam. | ||
| This is great because they're all going to catch coronavirus and they've obviously all got HIV, so that'll carry them off, you know? | ||
| Well, you didn't realize, though. | ||
| Immunocompromised people. Look at them. | ||
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They all obviously are. We have an outside the studio cam. | |
| These people are outside raging all day long. | ||
| No, they're not. I just went out for the pressure. | ||
| I know. You just read the coronavirus. | ||
| No, I'm not infectious. | ||
| No, you came in the front way. | ||
| To make a change, yes. | ||
| Okay, let's stop right there. | ||
| For real though, Milo Yiannopoulos, new book out today covering the Roger Stone case. | ||
| Sounds like you actually learned a lot about writing this book yourself. | ||
| So it leads me to this question. | ||
| Basically a lawyer now. Yeah, we'll call you unofficial lawyer, unofficial legal advisor of the war room now. | ||
| Why not just keep it simple? | ||
| I will be your courtroom reporter. | ||
| I'm here outside the courtroom. | ||
| I kind of like that, actually. | ||
| I will be in court soon again. | ||
| I could do Weinstein for you. | ||
| I will be in court again soon. | ||
| Maybe you could be covering my court deal. | ||
| What did you do now? | ||
| I'm a good boy. I just disrupt Congress because Jerry Nadler commits treason. | ||
| I'm not the criminal. Oh, no, no, no, no. | ||
| That's a virtuous arrest. | ||
| Thank you. I support that. Thank you. | ||
| But seriously, though, this is your fifth book, your third major book. | ||
| You're usually known for doing cultural commentary, political commentary. | ||
| I guess, in a way, both of those things are kind of intertwined with the Roger Stone case. | ||
| But really, this is legal commentary. | ||
| This is a new realm for you. | ||
| Why this case? | ||
| Why this case? | ||
| Why this book? Is it because you know Roger, like Roger? | ||
| Or is it really because... Of what this case was and how important you think it is. | ||
| Partly what I mentioned before, sort of sincere concern about this is a watershed trial in which some very well-established principles of American jurisprudence seem to have been thrown out the window. | ||
| It's also, I think, that the special counsel institution needs radical and dramatic overhaul. | ||
| We do not really want to get into this position because it will not serve Americans. | ||
| Whatever party is in office, they use the special counsel just to batter the president from the other team and put all of his advisors and friends and acolytes in jail. | ||
| Because there's a purpose to this, which is to rob him of the talent for re-election. | ||
| That's what all this is really about, right? | ||
| If you can't get the guy... | ||
| There's two reasons why you indict everyone around him for a variety of meaningless petty process crimes. | ||
| One is to save face. | ||
| Well, look, we might not have got him, but everyone he hangs out with is a crook. | ||
| And by the way, just on a cultural basis, you were kind of the first wave of that type censorship, too, for political purposes. | ||
| Well, of course. And, you know, there's a lot of dimensions to this that I feel great overlap and sympathy with Roger, who is a good friend. | ||
| I mean, there are points at which I'm describing him in the book where I could almost be talking about myself because this is one of the... | ||
| And this is where the cultural dimension comes in, to your point, to your question. | ||
| You're allowed to be funny and silly and still make political points if you are on the left. | ||
| So Bill Maher and Jon Stewart can be both comedians and also serious political commentators. | ||
| Well, they can try to be funny. I haven't seen much humor lately, but point taken. | ||
| Well, I quite liked that joke where the only joke Bill Maher's told recently that I've liked in the last six months is something like, the only family I want to see in a cage at the border is the Trumps, which is funny. | ||
| Like, it's quite funny. I'd laugh at it. | ||
| It's a funny joke. | ||
| I'll take it. The thing about it is that when he pivots to serious commentary in a, you know, suited and booted CBS interview, we are encouraged to take his insight seriously. | ||
| But if you're a conservative, or if you are even a libertarian, if you are a bit flamboyant and a bit funny, sometimes use satire, if you are a sort of street puncher like Roger is, if you are a satirist and a lecturer like I am, or whatever it is, your jokes are taken as serious statements of fact, and your insights are dismissed as though they were worthless. | ||
| And this case is the first example where I've seen if this kind of cultural warfare from the left Legal proceedings. | ||
| Because in this case, you see Roger Stone's text messages in which he uses a lot of profanity, which I won't repeat on the family show, but a lot of profanity and a lot of very colourful and hilarious language about, you know, his drunk addict ex-friend's therapy dog. | ||
| And, you know, the whole thing is sort of comical and funny. | ||
| But these overheated, boisterous tweets, which are kind of like... | ||
| You know, masculine, macho chest pounding between two hetero guys, you know, are represented... | ||
| Falsely by the prosecution and accepted by the judge and by the jury as evidence of witness tampering and threats of violence. | ||
| And in that I saw an echo of what a lot of the cultural warriors who have been banned. | ||
| Gavin McGinnis is a perfect example of this as well. | ||
| People who, you know, and Alex in this place is another perfect example of this. | ||
| Somebody who is an orator who uses language freely, tells jokes, has fun. | ||
| But those words are then isolated, pulled out, divorced from context, salient, relevant facts are excluded, and they're presented as damning, right? | ||
| This is a form of cultural warfare that we've been experiencing for half a decade. | ||
| And the Roger Stone trial represents an evolution in that warfare from the left because they're now doing it in a courtroom to try to put us in jail. | ||
| Well, and I'm glad that you said that because that is one of the things that... | ||
| In a way, you did commentary of it, but you were also kind of like a beacon or like a Pandora's box because they would come after you. | ||
| It's like, oh, here comes Milo Yiannopoulos. | ||
| I think the idiom you're reaching for is canary in the coal mine. | ||
| But you would show up and they'd be like, hey, there's a gay guy in a Trump hat. | ||
| And the media would say, whoa, we can't have that. | ||
| We're telling everyone Trump hates gay people. | ||
| And so they're like, well, we have to cancel you. | ||
| But let me ask you this as a philosophical question in the last minute and a half here. | ||
| Is it more, because we always hear the phrase cancel culture, which there's no doubt is a real thing, but is it more of a cancel culture or is it more of a control culture? | ||
| No, it's a cancel culture. I mean, that cancel culture is one of the many mechanisms of control that are leveraged, right? | ||
| So there's all kinds of ways in which discourse is controlled, the economy is controlled, politics is controlled, and one of those many mechanisms is cancel culture. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| My views on this are evolving slightly because I don't think that the left is ever going to be forced to play by the same rules as everybody else. | ||
| So I no longer think cancel culture is the problem. | ||
| I think the problem is that Republicans aren't very good at it and we need to get better. | ||
| Well, and I think a lot of them are just straight up cowards. | ||
| I mean, let's call it what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course and whatever. | ||
| They're comfortable. Right, but the people... | ||
| Sunshine Patriots. Right. | ||
| So, you know, Laura Loomer's a very good friend of mine, and the one thing that I kind of wasn't really mad about that she did was interrupting that production of Julius Caesar where they had Trump as Caesar getting stabbed on stage. | ||
| My views have evolved since, and now I want every single one of their plays to be disrupted. | ||
| And I think a lot of people are in that same... | ||
| Yeah, in the last five years, I've realized that... | ||
| While I was calling out Republicans for taking the moral high ground and losing, I was doing something a little bit like that myself, too. | ||
| Still vainly holding on to hope that the left would play by the same rules as everybody else. | ||
| They won't. Cancel culture is not the problem. | ||
| The problem is that we're not good enough at it yet, so we need to get better. | ||
| Well, and I just want to get out ahead of this, because they may use it against me. | ||
| I called Milo a fag in a text message. | ||
| No, no, you've heard it. I'm not homophobic. | ||
| So before they use that against me... | ||
| I just want them to know. | ||
| You have a lifetime fag pass from me. | ||
| Signed. Thank you. Retroactive and forward-looking. | ||
| They're gonna use it against me, Milo. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. You leave this man alone. | ||
| All right, the crew has just made a grave, grave error. | ||
| Yes. Because Milo and I are about to talk about the coronavirus, and he's running around looking for a mask, but the crew has their masks on. | ||
| They're actually, some of them are in quarantine protocol right now. | ||
| Self-quarantine. In studio. Self-quarantine. | ||
| They self-quarantine in studio. | ||
| We put them in a hazmat suit. | ||
| Well, they're not really quarantined if they're in studio. | ||
| Well, it's a personal bubble, self-quarantine. | ||
| Did you see Naomi Campbell? Have you seen her? | ||
| No. That's the SI model? | ||
| World's most beautiful supermodel. | ||
| That's one man's opinion. | ||
| Gorgeous, from Streatham in London, a black supermodel, Naomi Campbell. | ||
| She's British, which is why some of your viewers might not know who she is, but she is the best supermodel, and she's famous for taking antibacterial wipes every time she flies. | ||
| Oh, really? She's got this really kind of like obnoxious routine when she gets into first class of like rubbing all the surfaces down. | ||
| Now, however, she has upped her game and she's now traveling in a full hazmat suit through airports. | ||
| Do you remember? This may be, you may not remember. | ||
| Like a full proper seal hazmat suit. | ||
| It's just kind of funny. There was this girl named, I think her name was Vivian. | ||
| Vivian Stiviano. | ||
| This was during the LA Clippers basketball owner. | ||
| She's lovely. Racist comments. | ||
| A welder's mask. | ||
| Yeah, she doesn't like germs. | ||
| She doesn't like germs. I've always liked her because she has a real temper behind the scenes. | ||
| And she became famous off the runway for throwing diamond-encrusted blackberries at her personal assistants. | ||
| See, I don't know much about the fashion and modeling industry. | ||
| I just go with Karlie Kloss because she's from my home neighborhood. | ||
| So she's the best. I don't know who that is. | ||
| Okay. Giselle Bündchen? | ||
| You know her? She's from Brazil. | ||
| Brazilian and German, I think. | ||
| Oh, yeah? Yeah. So... | ||
| That's the fears that people like Naomi Campbell have of the coronavirus. | ||
| It's Naomi. What is it? | ||
| Naomi Campbell. Never heard of her Campbell. | ||
| So some people in the supermodeling industry are really taking this seriously. | ||
| Milo, you're on the fence of the supermodel industry. | ||
| Well, you're trying to lose some weight. | ||
| And I too am taking it very seriously. | ||
| You're trying to lose some weight. | ||
| Well, where will my career be if I show up with puffy eyes and a sniffle? | ||
| You know, for a guy who gives me trouble for my beard, I gotta wonder what's going on with your facial hair. | ||
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I mean, let's... I wore this for you as a gift. | |
| This is a gift. This was a visual tee-up for you. | ||
| So it's like, look at how weak my beard is. | ||
| Guess how long. For that? | ||
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Yeah. I don't even want to... | |
| A month? | ||
| No, but two and a half weeks. | ||
| Okay. And this is the best I can do, and it doesn't... | ||
| Good for you. It doesn't even join up. | ||
| You've tried your best. | ||
| I've got these little patchy bits around here, but I didn't shave on purpose to come and see you as a gift. | ||
| Well, I appreciate that. | ||
| It's kind of like the eight that hangs out with the threes, just so she's like a ten. | ||
| Don't be so hard on yourself. You're at least a five. | ||
| Okay. Seriously, though, you're flying all around the country right now. | ||
| You're going to be touring for your book. | ||
| I'll just turn it available from Amazon right now. | ||
| Plus, you travel a lot anyway. | ||
| I'm sorry to interrupt you again, but I didn't mention, and this is important, as you know, I'm one of life's givers, and I'm donating all of my royalties for this book. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You will, in addition to being outraged, educated, and occasionally, in the course of the page of the book, amused by the story of this trial, you'll also be helping to chip in against the costs, which a presidential pardon cannot help to defray. | ||
| Roger has been bankrupted no matter what happens. | ||
| Whether Trump pulls his finger out and does the right thing or not, Roger's life has been permanently and irreparably damaged. | ||
| So it's another way you can help him and have a few hours of enjoyable reading. | ||
| So you're touring right now. | ||
| This is your first stop, I guess, as part of the book that just got released today, the tour you're on. | ||
| You are my first. | ||
| First stop on the book tour. | ||
| Yes. And so, we were talking in the break, I'm thinking about cancelling some trips that I have coming up because of the coronavirus fears that I want to get on the plane. | ||
| I heard you whining about your cancelled holidays. | ||
| I was whining. | ||
| I think that's fair. You were. | ||
| It's fair. It's the fourth trip I have to cancel. | ||
| I can't even get an occasion. Before I know whether to feel bad for you about this. | ||
| I'm not asking for sympathy. Well... | ||
| It's not up to you. I'll take it, though. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you ask for it. | ||
| I will let you know if I'm providing it. | ||
| But in order to determine whether or not it is warranted... | ||
| Well, because I don't know yet. To figure out whether or not sympathy is warranted, whether or not it is deserved, I need to know where these trips were to that you cancelled. | ||
| Well, that's classified. If you're going to Thailand to blow up cattle... | ||
| Okay, I'm not going to Thailand. | ||
| No, no, I was just, you know, there's an island you can go to in the Far East where you can blow up cattle with rocket launchers. | ||
| I think there are a few of them now. | ||
| Wait, where is this? Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Have you done this? My dad's done this. | ||
| And so if it was that kind of holiday, then you would have my sympathy. | ||
| But if you were just going to have a long weekend in Salt Lake City, then... | ||
| Doesn't sound bad, but no, that wasn't the plan. | ||
| But you're saying you're not cancelling anything, you're still flying. | ||
| I'm like Mariah Carey. | ||
| These things never fit in my ears. | ||
| You're supposed to put it around. | ||
| No, it's worse. It's worse. | ||
| It never works for me. I've got funny ears. | ||
| I can't wear earpods either, you know? | ||
| Really? Actually, you know what? | ||
| Damn you, that is a bit better. Sorry. | ||
| Where were you going on holiday? | ||
| I was going somewhere with a beach. | ||
| Look at how wide I am. | ||
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You see how pale I am? Why can't you tell me where you were going? | |
| Is it embarrassing? I'm aware. | ||
| Is it just one of the southern states? | ||
| They'll send out somebody to try to attack me. | ||
| Was it just Georgia or something? | ||
| Kennesaw, Georgia. You were going to Georgia. | ||
| I was going to Kennesaw, Georgia. | ||
| Well, I think that you should go on holiday. | ||
| I think you should maintain your holiday plans. | ||
| You are young and healthy and there is... | ||
| Basically a rounding error, zero chance that you will get into serious trouble. | ||
| Even if you do catch the virus again or for the first time, you're fine. | ||
| Just go. You're not worried about it? | ||
| No, I've had it and it was gone in a week. | ||
| It was no big deal. So, but you have no fears when you get on the planes right now? | ||
| Well, my fears on planes are the other people. | ||
| They're not diseases, although I don't particularly like traveling in a tin with all those others. | ||
| Yeah, no, I hear you. Yeah. The coughing and the... | ||
| Now the pets are everywhere, too, with their pets. | ||
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Have you seen this? Other people are basically disgusting. | |
| When you see how other people behave in public bathrooms and how other people behave in restaurants, I mean, other people are revolting. | ||
| Well, I've seen how you behave in restaurants. | ||
| I bet... I behave with the utmost decorum and etiquette in restaurants. | ||
| Now, I drink a lot and I yell and I amuse myself and others around me with, you know, abusing nearby patrons. | ||
| But my manners, other than that, are impeccable. | ||
| I have to say, because like I said, I'm on the fence. | ||
| A nice triangular thing I do with the napkin. | ||
| Come on now. Well, not everybody can be as high class as Milo. | ||
| I'm a working class hero. I'm like Roger. | ||
| I'm the people's champion. No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You see, I came to the... | ||
| If you're the working class hero, I'm the people's champion. | ||
| Fine, fine, fine. | ||
| I'm glad we've reached the conclusion. | ||
| That's a nice his and his t-shirts combo, isn't it? | ||
| Actually, that's not bad. That could work, actually. | ||
| You see, I came to this lifestyle late. | ||
| You know, when I was growing up, my dad had a security company. | ||
| I was surrounded by bouncers, by nightclub doormen from my entire childhood. | ||
| No, no, no, no. We used to go out and... | ||
| I would just wear tennis shoes and you'd be like, what the hell is wrong with you? | ||
| I'd be like, dude, I'm from the Midwest. | ||
| Just tennis shoes. Yeah, that's it. | ||
| Just tennis shoes. I think I did comment on your tennis shoes one time. | ||
| You didn't like it. You wanted to not even hang out with me. | ||
| You were like, okay, I can't be seen with you. | ||
| I don't think I was serious about that. | ||
| I think I was successfully attempting to humiliate you, but there was never a serious prospect of me not to hang out with me. | ||
| I did get sympathy from the bartender. | ||
| She's like, who's this bully that you go around with? | ||
| Well, it's Austin. I mean, nobody dresses properly down here. | ||
| That's true. I was the least of the concerns. | ||
| You've got a pocket square. | ||
| That puts you in the 1%. | ||
| Yeah, like, whoa! Like, oh my gosh! | ||
| I'm like, what is that? | ||
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I mean, maybe the suit is a little whatever, but I don't have a pocket square. | |
| So you won't be suspending any travel. | ||
| You're not worried about it. | ||
| You think, I shouldn't be worried about it. | ||
| If you were 69 and had some kind of pre-existing immunocompromising... | ||
| Or say you lived with someone that was older like that? | ||
| Right, right. Or you visited your grandmother once a week or you worked in a school or something, then sure. | ||
| But if you're young and tragically alone, then I think you're fine. | ||
| Wow, guys! Wow! | ||
| Milo Yiannopoulos. Maybe when you've shaved the beard, you'll be a bit luckier in love. | ||
| Now that you're raising funds via your book sales, the trial of Roger Stone, I don't know how I even win this competition. | ||
| I think my beard is... For Roger? | ||
| You're going to shave my beard, probably. | ||
| Well, yeah, but you have this show, you see. | ||
| Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we've got breaking news across the board. | ||
| On coronavirus. President Trump is going to be speaking tonight at 8 o'clock to address the nation on coronavirus. | ||
| San Francisco mayor bans gatherings of more than a thousand people. | ||
| Golden State Warriors will be impacted. | ||
| That's NBA games. New York St. | ||
| Patrick's Day Parade canceled for the first time in over 200 years. | ||
| Well, hallelujah, there is a gold. | ||
| What is up with that? | ||
| What... Why do you say that? | ||
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What is up with that? Have you been in Manhattan on St. | |
| Patrick's Day? No, no. Well, then try it. | ||
| Then you'll know. | ||
| I'll explain it briefly for you. | ||
| St. Patrick's Day is a sort of very minor holiday back home in Europe, but Irish people in America are sort of really enthusiastically and obnoxiously Irish in a way that actual Irish people aren't. | ||
| It's just an excuse to drink. | ||
| Of course, but it's a day when anybody who can claim even the slightest fraction of Irish extraction, and to be honest with you, everybody else too, just returns to a sorority or to a frat house for the day. | ||
| And that's what New York becomes, and it is ghastly. | ||
| And it is part of this terrible thing that American adults do. | ||
| Nine times a year, you give yourself license to return to childhood. | ||
| You know, Halloween, you've got a 35-year-old man dressing up. | ||
| Ha! Really? | ||
| But no, the whole country does it. | ||
| I'm like, for God's sake. | ||
| So anyway, it's one of those. | ||
| And if you've ever been in New York City on St. | ||
| Patrick's Day, you will understand what I mean when I say, you know, God is straight. | ||
| There's a famous St. | ||
| Patrick's Day parade in St. | ||
| Louis. It's one of the biggest ones. | ||
| It's in my neighborhood where I lived for five years in Dogtown. | ||
| You guys look up the Dogtown St. | ||
| Patrick's Day parade. If they canceled that, I don't think they will. | ||
| They would run that thing even if people were dying. | ||
| People will be literally croaking. | ||
| The people of Missouri will not take it. | ||
| No, they'll be croaking like on the float, like vomiting blood. | ||
| They'll be like, the show must go on! | ||
| Clean it up with Bud Light! | ||
| It could be an Ebola pandemic. | ||
| Oh, it wouldn't stop it. Of dissolving organs. | ||
| You could literally, there'd be like a keg stand going on. | ||
| Cold, warm, weather, doesn't matter. | ||
| Keg stand, someone's like, hey, I just had Ebola, can I hit the keg? | ||
| They're like, hit it twice! There are so many holidays in this country, so many festivals, you know, President's Day, Independence Day, Thanksgiving, stuff that doesn't exist anywhere else, so many holidays in this country. | ||
| I think you could take a year off, Frank. | ||
| I don't think anything of value will be lost by having a break from the endless procession of pointless federal holidays and stupid excuses to go out and act like idiots. | ||
| Spoken like a true commie. | ||
| No, no, no. Well, maybe a bit. | ||
| I think you could do the year off. | ||
| No, but I think we may be looking into a situation like this. | ||
| We're looking into this now. They're now thinking about cancelling the NCAA tournament for fans. | ||
| So no fans. What is that? | ||
| It's the big college basketball tournament, March Madness. | ||
| Oh, right, right. I guess it probably starts like next week or something. | ||
| I won't remember. If it's sports, I won't remember. | ||
| Don't bother. Well, but millions of people attend sports every week, and so it looks like they're beginning signs of shutting those down. | ||
| I did see that LeBron James said he wouldn't play without fans. | ||
| He wouldn't? Yeah, so when they said that if his game were to proceed, his match, whatever it is, that he would not go on the basketball court if there weren't fans in the stands. | ||
| Well, he is an agent of China now. | ||
| Yeah. So maybe that's... | ||
| It was remarkable, all that stuff. | ||
| And he probably would confirm this story out of China. | ||
| 100-year-old man returns home after recovering. | ||
| That was really elegant. I loved that, by the way. | ||
| After recovering? It was really beautifully done. | ||
| What's that? I just wanted to compliment you on that effortless seg into... | ||
| Oh, I'm a professional. No, no. | ||
| It was a joy to behold. | ||
| So why did you just... He'd probably confirm... | ||
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Why did you just kill it? Because it was so good I had to take it from you. | |
| LAUGHTER He'd probably confirm this story from China. | ||
| No, it was lovely. It was lovely. | ||
| I can't see anything beautiful and not get the impulse to ruin it. | ||
| Well, it looks like LeBron has now changed his mind, though. | ||
| And so he's a flip-flopper. | ||
| He doesn't really know. | ||
| Oh, he needed to be edumacated. | ||
| Okay, he needed to be edumacated. | ||
| He's been to camp. He's had his re-education. | ||
| Now he's back. And now he knows what his point of view is. | ||
| Yeah. He didn't know his opinion before, but he does now. | ||
| Well, it's tough, you know. | ||
| So we've got it confirmed now. | ||
| 2020 NCAA basketball tournament closed to fans because of coronavirus. | ||
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Wow. Wow. | |
| All right, Milo, let's get real serious here. | ||
| Next level. Because this is my fear, bigger than any virus. | ||
| I'm afraid this is the future. | ||
| This is what... Call it whatever you want, shadow government, Illuminati, globalists, deep state, the new world order. | ||
| This is my fear of the future. | ||
| It's like a post-human world, but it's like before the post-human world where you just don't leave your house anymore. | ||
| You watch everything on TV. You plug into everything digitally. | ||
| And you have no way of knowing if anything they're telling you is true. | ||
| And nobody even goes outside. | ||
| And then you reach a point, a couple generations, where stepping foot into the sun is like, oh my gosh, the sun is poison! | ||
| Okay, I'm not going to go quite that far. | ||
| But I would say this... | ||
| It's certainly being seized upon to damage Trump as much as possible because the only thing that could possibly get him out of office at this point is a recession. | ||
| So they want the country shut down if at all possible. | ||
| Democrats and the media want the history and they are successful in achieving that. | ||
| The second thing is where you do have certainly a point Maybe I would draw a line a little earlier than your robot people and sunlight situation. | ||
| But what a lot of this will do is establish a precedent for cancellations and for control, for a government-imposed control of all kinds of things. | ||
| Once it's happened for this, people will be less upset if it happens for something else, basically. | ||
| Right? So... Like, oh, except your South by Southwest cancelled. | ||
| Oh, except the ball game's cancelled. | ||
| Correct. And so... | ||
| Hey, you can still watch on TV. And, you know, the argument will be, well, we have to shut it down for coronavirus, so I guess this is like that. | ||
| And before you know it, the government has awarded itself the power to make and break any sporting tournament, any conference... | ||
| Whatever. So you get a left-wing government in that decides that, you know, a gun fair can't proceed because there's some kind of local whatever, right? | ||
| That's the kind of abuse that you open this up to later on. | ||
| Or, you know, it could be Republicans that want to cancel South by Southwest out of spite for the kind of people who go there. | ||
| I don't think either of those directions particularly serves individual liberty or ordinary people very well. | ||
| As someone, though, that is erring on the side of... | ||
| Hey, don't be afraid. | ||
| You can still travel when you're young. Take precautions if you're old or other situations. | ||
| But you're still of the mindset where you're not going to suspend your traveling. | ||
| Take your holiday. Take your holiday. Go to Salt Lake City. | ||
| Do it. What is your response to all these events being canceled? | ||
| Do you think it's fair, not fair, good idea, bad idea? | ||
| What do you think? This appears to me to be a lot like the flu. | ||
| If it's much more infectious than the flu, we might see higher death rates. | ||
| The flu kills, what is it, 60,000 people a year. | ||
| I guess some degree of care is warranted and if you work at a school or around old people or whatever you're gonna want to be super careful but The hysteria, though it may serve a few lives, is clearly being done for such nefarious motives. | ||
| The hysteria is clearly being manufactured for such appallingly disingenuous reasons that I can't support it, even if it does save a few lives, because the reason they're doing this is to establish the pretext, the precedent that we talked about, and because this is the only thing that might get Trump out. | ||
| Well, let's go down that line of thinking then. | ||
| At what point does news, if it hasn't crossed this threshold already, which maybe this is the point, at what point does news become the boy that cried wolf? | ||
| They're fake news so many times, you just don't trust anything they say. | ||
| And then it's the one thing you should trust, and then it's too late. | ||
| Well, people say that. | ||
| They say they don't trust the news. | ||
| When they're asked by pollsters in surveys, you know, about their confidence in the news, they say... | ||
| But they still kind of basically believe everything they read. | ||
| I mean, if you look at the way that the right-leaning readers and viewers behave, I mean, they're quite ready to believe bad things about people on their own side reported by the hostile press. | ||
| So I think we're at the stage where people are declaring a lack of confidence in the media. | ||
| I don't think that they're necessarily living their own professed values, though, because... | ||
| And if, you know, ABC, CBS, CNN, and the New York Times are all saying the same thing, people tend to believe it, even if it is egregiously false. | ||
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So, I... And they know that that's why they do it. | |
| Yeah. I mean, if it didn't work anymore, they would switch to something else, right? | ||
| You know, the reason cancel culture exists, it works. | ||
| Censorship exists, it works. | ||
| The reason that this coordination of a synchronized press line on things, like, what are we going to say about Biden this week? | ||
| The reason they're still doing it is it works. | ||
| If it stopped working, they wouldn't do it anymore. | ||
| Which we didn't even get into. I wanted to do that with you. | ||
| But my point is that... | ||
| Actually, I've forgotten what my point is. | ||
| Your point is, what do you make of the Democrats going with Joe Biden, who's clearly suffering from dementia or something? | ||
| I mean, it's bad. He looks like he's got early onset something. | ||
| Then again, it might just be old. | ||
| I mean, some old, frail people don't have Alzheimer's, but they have those lapses and those moments nonetheless. | ||
| He will get destroyed by Donald Trump in a way that Bernie perhaps wouldn't have done, or it might have been a bit more of a fair fight. | ||
| At least it would have been a fight. | ||
| Well, you just have to understand the Democrat Party is now the party of big business. | ||
| They're the party of Wall Street. They're the party of big pharma. | ||
| They're the party of big tech. I mean, all of the old evil industries, with the possible exception of, I guess, fossil fuels maybe, are all now Democrat-aligned. | ||
| And to have somebody like Bernie, the de facto head of the Democrat Party, kind of the CEO and president of the Democrat Party, is unconscionable for them. | ||
| They can't allow it to happen. | ||
| So a couple of phone calls from Obama, and you get this extraordinary situation where, you know, two people drop out, but Warren stays in. | ||
| Wait a second. Tom Steyer literally made all of his money off the backs of the fossil fuel industry. | ||
| And this guy's up here saying, we need to stop global warming. | ||
| Right, but all I'm saying is the industries in general, the only one that's still a vaguely Republican. | ||
| Well, Hillary Clinton has never seen a lie too big that she wouldn't tell. | ||
| And so, she is now claiming she was part of fighting... | ||
| She must think she's running. | ||
| Why else is she going on television claiming, oh look at me, I fought the SARS virus, even though it's a lie, unless she's thinking about running. | ||
| So here she is claiming how well she dealt with the SARS virus as Secretary of State. | ||
| There's a problem, we'll talk about it after the clip, but here's the big lie from Hitler. | ||
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The SARS epidemic, which happened in the very beginning of the Obama administration, because I was Secretary of State at the time. | |
| The SARS epidemic, which happened in the very beginning of the Obama administration. | ||
| Because actually, the fact checkers, Hillary, looked into that, and survey says that the SARS outbreak was 2002 and 2003, and you were Secretary of State 2009 to 2013. | ||
| Now, of course, CNN isn't going to do that fact-checking on live air or even in post. | ||
| They go along with the lies. | ||
| It's the Clinton News Network. It's the Communist News Network. | ||
| It's CNN, home of fake news. | ||
| But think about the arrogance. | ||
| Forget about that. Why is she here bragging about her record as Secretary of State? | ||
| She really thinks she's running. | ||
| And I found something else out. | ||
| Or I realized something else about the whole Biden deal. | ||
| Everybody Biden's either ingratiating himself with or trying to bring into his campaign or talking about being as... | ||
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They're all Obama people. | |
| And so it confirmed two things to me. | ||
| One, my instincts were right. | ||
| The entire purpose of the Biden campaign is to get him in there to clean up all the treason that the Obama administration engaged in, just boldface treason, with Brennan and Clapper and Comey and all of them. | ||
| Biden gets in, they think that he gets in, brings in same administration officials, they can literally just bleach bit the whole thing. | ||
| It's too late. Everybody already knows about it. | ||
| That's their plan. But then, when Bloomberg was getting Hillary people in, and you see Hillary thinking she's still running, the Democrat Party doesn't want Hillary. | ||
| Hillary Clinton is dead to the Democrat Party, folks. | ||
| It's run by Obama now. | ||
| It's run by Obama-ites now. | ||
| Obama is the new king daddy of the Democrats. | ||
| Now, they learned he's not as popular as they make him out to be. | ||
| Thus, when he campaigned for Hillary and she lost, it was like a double-edged sword for them. | ||
| It was like, okay, we don't want Hillary. | ||
| She can't win, even with Obama's backing. | ||
| Obama's like a fake legend. | ||
| Obama's like a folklore hero. | ||
| He doesn't actually exist. | ||
| At least who they portray him to be. | ||
| So the rejection of Obama to the Democrats was, okay, Obama's not popular. | ||
| We can't make him the face of this. | ||
| And then the rejection of Hillary was, okay, we can't even get Hillary in with Obama and all her experience. | ||
| Hillary's dead to us. So Obama's running the show behind the scenes, but they don't want his face or name on it. | ||
| They know he's unpopular. | ||
| And to the Democrats, Hillary's pretty much dead, at least politically speaking. | ||
| So this is why they're forcing Joe Biden. | ||
| And then, by the way, you have Andrew Yang, who works for CNN now. | ||
| I mean, go figure. He's now endorsed Biden. | ||
| And I got the clip. | ||
| I'm not going to air it. | ||
| But Yang endorses Biden. | ||
| And then, folks... | ||
| Actually, play the CNN clip, guys. | ||
| Do we have it on here? Where they basically show you how they rigged the election on live television. | ||
| Yeah, 14. Rule 14. | ||
| Dakota, 118 delegates are on the line. | ||
| So they're about to show you their fake projections. | ||
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Watch this, live time. This is the first test of the night for Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. | |
| And then they have their graphic and their projections, and then... | ||
| And we have our first projection. | ||
| Sanders wins Mississippi. | ||
| Bernie Sanders. Oh, wait, no, no, wait, no. | ||
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Not happening right now. | |
| Joe Biden. Nope. Get rid of that. | ||
| Joe Biden, no. No, it's Biden. | ||
| It's the winner of the Mississippi primary. | ||
| See? It was Biden. | ||
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There it is. There it is. There it is. It's Biden. Literally on TV. They're all rigging it, folks. | |
| They've been caught. They've literally been caught. | ||
| They did the same thing in Missouri. | ||
| Now, I thought Biden would win Missouri anyway. | ||
| Turns out at Missouri precincts, guess what? | ||
| Bernie was winning and then they malfunctioned! | ||
| I came on air this week and I said there's two major stories that are indicative of where we're at. | ||
| The rigging of the Democrat nomination process, forcing Joe Biden as the nominee, a guy who can't even wake up and know what day it is, a guy who probably needs help wiping his own behind. | ||
| That's who they're going with, and they're just openly rigging it right in front of us now, right in front of us on CNN, right in front of us with all the candidates dropping out on Super Tuesday, and then they all endorse Joe, and then magically he wins. | ||
| I mean, the fix is in for a senile old crook to get the Democrat nominee. | ||
| Then there's the coronavirus, which is just continuing to outbreak. | ||
| Look, I think the president's going to make a big statement tonight. | ||
| I really do. And he put out a statement on Twitter, which I think is a hint at where it's going. | ||
| I am fully prepared to use the full power of the federal government to deal with our current challenge of the coronavirus. | ||
| I'm not into fear-mongering. | ||
| I'm not even into being afraid. | ||
| But I will tell you this. | ||
| At 8 o'clock tonight, if the president makes a very strong announcement about this or talks about quarantine or lockdown, the shelves are going to be empty, folks. | ||
| Okay. Now, I'm not even the one that's afraid of the coronavirus. | ||
| I'm more afraid of the government response and the tyrannical response to it. | ||
| But this is where we're at. | ||
| These are the two major indicators. | ||
| And so I wouldn't put it past anybody to do anything to try to take Trump out. | ||
| They fake hate crimes. | ||
| They lie about investigations. | ||
| They do everything. We've seen it. | ||
| So is this part of that? Or is it something more worrisome? | ||
| Savannah Hernandez is now in studio. | ||
| She wants to talk about both of these issues. | ||
| You were at UT yesterday asking students... | ||
| Whether they would vote for Biden if they're a Bernie supporter or not. | ||
| And then also, I guess, maybe you got some insight onto how campus is handling the coronavirus. | ||
| I do believe actually UT shut down today. | ||
| Yeah, guys, UT may have actually shut down campus today. | ||
| So anyway, Savannah Hernandez, first talk about going around yesterday. | ||
| I was shocked that Biden won Texas, quite frankly. | ||
| It was the same thing, like Bernie's up all night, and then, oh, at midnight, 10,000 votes in for Biden. | ||
| Woo-hoo! He wins Texas. | ||
| So what were the people at UT who were probably, mostly you talked to Bernie supporters, what was their response to Biden getting the lead for the nomination? | ||
| Well, of course, there was a lot of Bernie or bust people who said that they would completely give up their vote if Bernie didn't get the nomination in 2020 for president. | ||
| And there were also a lot of people who said, yeah, I'm a Bernie supporter, but I'm not going to go the route of giving up my vote. | ||
| But Joe Biden isn't my favorite candidate to vote for. | ||
| It's unfortunate, but anyone but Trump. | ||
| So those are two of the main answers that I was getting. | ||
| And it was funny because I asked a lot of people, okay, well, you know, what are some of the policies that Joe Biden has passed? | ||
| Or what is one thing that he's done in the past during his time in office that's going to make him a good leader, a good president? | ||
| And one person was able to answer me. | ||
| And I think Sam and I were out there for about two hours because I was specifically looking for Bernie supporters. | ||
| So there was a lot of work that went into this report. | ||
| And, you know, because not everyone was a Bernie supporter. | ||
| I think we ran into one Trump supporter on UT campus, just one sole Trump supporter. | ||
| I know. But yeah, they couldn't name one reason why they like Joe Biden. | ||
| It just automatically went back to, he's not Trump, so that's why we're going to vote for him. | ||
| But it doesn't look good. | ||
| It doesn't really seem like the people on the street are really excited about Joe Biden at all. | ||
| Even the people who said they would vote for Joe Biden don't really know why other than, again, he's not Trump. | ||
| That's all they had for me. | ||
| Think about how dangerous that mindset is. | ||
| Oh, anyone but Trump. | ||
| That is zombie level brainwashing mindset. | ||
| Okay, bloodsucking monster or Trump. | ||
| Bloodsucking monster. Anything but Trump. | ||
| I mean, that's what they're saying. And the Daily Mail, the Daily Caller, sorry, so many daily news organizations. | ||
| They just put out a video and someone did a man out of the street and said, would you rather get coronavirus or see Trump in office for another four years? | ||
| And I'm sure you can all figure out which answer a lot of the people went with. | ||
| They'd rather get coronavirus than have Trump in office for another four years. | ||
| I didn't even know that. That's exactly what I'm talking about. | ||
| That's the mindset. It's like, get cancer and die or Trump. | ||
| I'll take death. That's where they're at. | ||
| That's the dangerous mentality that mainstream media and college campuses are inflicting these poor students with. | ||
| And you know, I keep saying this thing too, because you're kind of from this generation. | ||
| Somehow you're not of it with the mindset. | ||
| But it's like, I remember when I was like 22 and... | ||
| It was kind of like, for me, like, peak, I guess, liberalism, if you will. | ||
| I wouldn't even say that. But, like, I bought into the whole thing, like, oh, the rich people are bad. | ||
| Socialism's the answer. I bought into Bernie's lies. | ||
| I wasn't fully indoctrinated. | ||
| I still never hated America. | ||
| But, like, I kind of saw that. | ||
| I kind of bought the propaganda for a little bit. | ||
| And so part of me is just sitting back like, oh, you college students, I remember when I was your age, you're going to snap out of this. | ||
| But I realized something. | ||
| What? I'm 30. | ||
| People my age, the left and the right, liberals, conservatives, what do you want to say? | ||
| It was a left versus right. | ||
| It was a liberal versus conservative. | ||
| The new generation of college students, it's straight up communists. | ||
| These aren't liberals or progressives. | ||
| These are straight up Marxist communists. | ||
| I don't think we've ever dealt with that before. | ||
| At least, I don't remember anybody that I grew up with ever thinking communism was a good idea. | ||
| Yeah, I think that that is a new ideal that has definitely been indoctrinated into a lot of students. | ||
| I think I don't think that way because I was homeschooled and then when I was in university, I was there for three years. | ||
| Because I am still in my early 20s, there are a couple of things that I am more of a bleeding heart liberal on, I guess. | ||
| I just don't voice them as much. | ||
| So I do understand where a lot of these students are coming from. | ||
| But at the end of the day, I think as well, our media and social media have a big role to play in all of this because with the communism, with socialism, with Bernie Sanders, with AOC, we have these people in politics that are being, I guess, Really focused on and being pushed on the public by celebrities, by other politicians, on social media. | ||
| They're getting all these likes. | ||
| AOC says that calling the coronavirus or not going to Chinese restaurants because of the coronavirus is racist. | ||
| It gets 100,000 likes. | ||
| Celebrities endorse her as well. | ||
| And that's what a lot of these young kids are seeing. | ||
| They're seeing that on social media. | ||
| They're seeing the popularity. It's the sheep mentality. | ||
| Whereas, I guess, back in the day before social media, people had to kind of think on their own. | ||
| And I guess use their own common sense. | ||
| And that's something that's kind of been lost. | ||
| Let's go to that clip, actually, just so people can hear it, guys. | ||
| Clip 13. Let's see what AOC said for herself. | ||
| This is shocking and horrifying. | ||
| A public service announcement from AOC. Honestly, it sounds almost so silly to say, but there's a lot of restaurants that are feeling the pain of racism, where people are literally not patroning Chinese restaurants. | ||
| Patronizing? They're not patroning Asian restaurants because of just straight-up racism around the coronavirus. | ||
| Hmm. So now it's racist to be cautious of, I mean, obviously, we all know that in Wuhan, in China, is where the coronavirus developed. | ||
| No, you're not allowed to say that. | ||
| You're not allowed to say that. Even though they all said it first, now you're not allowed to say it. | ||
| The Wuhan virus. All of the media that's now condemning it originally called it the Wuhan virus. | ||
| And now because Ilhan Omar and AOC said that it's racist, now everyone, again, the media is propping up these politicians. | ||
| All these celebrities are now saying that it's racist too. | ||
| Going into, again, the sheep mentality and the mind forming that, I guess this is now a racist thing. | ||
| It's ridiculous. So people, again, it all comes back to the media. | ||
| Like, they can sit here and say it's racist. | ||
| No, you're the ones reporting the hysteria every day. | ||
| So if anybody is racist, it's the media. | ||
| And then they try to run cover like, oh, wait, don't say Wuhan, or oh, it's racist not to go to a Chinese restaurant. | ||
| I got news for you. Every restaurant is down in business. | ||
| Every restaurant has lost patronage. | ||
| I don't even think patroning is a word. | ||
| Is that even a word, guys? Hey, look, I make up words all the time. | ||
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I won't slide it for that. I don't think it's a word. | |
| I think it's patronizing. | ||
| I'm not sure. Don't ask me. | ||
| I'm not the best at this either. | ||
| But yeah, a couple people were pointing out that that wasn't correct either. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I guess AOC is just out here spreading disinformation. | ||
| How does it feel to be smarter than AOC? Yeah, but that's different. | ||
| Patronage. I'm talking about patroning. | ||
| Whatever. I make up words. But, you know, it's so silly to say this. | ||
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But because of racism, people aren't going to dinner anymore. | |
| I'm AOC! Go Bernie! | ||
| Oh, I love communism! | ||
| I have a degree in economics from Boston University! | ||
| And I'm a communist! | ||
| That whole school should be shut down. | ||
| We should quarantine Boston University economics. | ||
| Alright, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We're kind of joking about the coronavirus here. | ||
| It's not a joke. This is nothing to joke about. | ||
| It's serious. So, if it's not a joke, you should leave the studio right now and go self-quarantine, right? | ||
| Yeah, y'all probably won't see me for the next, uh, how long is it? | ||
| Two weeks? No, but seriously, what is the measurement? | ||
| How do we decide? If you're sick and you think you have the coronavirus, should you self-quarantine for two weeks? | ||
| And let's say Savannah Hernandez has the coronavirus right now. | ||
| I kind of feel like I do. And I was actually thinking about this because I had a doctor's appointment. | ||
| And of course they were like, hey, you know, have you been in contact with anyone with the coronavirus? | ||
| They had me fill out this whole form. | ||
| And I said, well, I went to CPAC. There was an attendee there that had corona. | ||
| And my doctor was really cautious around me because she was over 60. | ||
| And she was just like, uh, well, I'm in the age range where coronavirus can affect me a little bit more than you. | ||
| So she was just very cautious around me. | ||
| So now you may have killed your doctor. | ||
| I know. And I was really thinking about it. | ||
| And I was like, wow, maybe this is a lot more serious than, you know, I'm making it out to be. | ||
| But that's my point is that we're joking about it. | ||
| But like, at what point do we think, oh, wait, this is serious? | ||
| Right. Um... | ||
| Yeah, I guess. I really don't know because it is continuing to spread throughout the country at a rapid rate. | ||
| People are starting to get very worried about it. | ||
| We've seen how it's impacted other countries. | ||
| And now here in the U.S., our own economy is starting to become devastated by it. | ||
| We have several events that we know of that have been canceled. | ||
| We were just talking about that during the break. | ||
| The Houston Rodeo is the latest one to be canceled. | ||
| If they cancel the Dogtown St. | ||
| Paddy's Day Parade, we riot. | ||
| And they already canceled them in Boston and New York. | ||
| You're saying that that's completely different, but I don't know. | ||
| Everything's getting canceled, y'all. | ||
| Everything is getting canceled. They canceled the rodeo. | ||
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Like, that's it. That's it. | |
| I wasn't worried and then they started canceling music festivals. | ||
| Now I'm worried because I can't go to music festivals this Sunday or this summer. | ||
| I'm going to be completely honest. | ||
| I'm worried now. I'm more upset than worried. | ||
| I try to hear as many things as I can before I make an educated decision. | ||
| And so I'm still kind of on the fence about taking a trip or not. | ||
| But I think what it is more than anything for me... | ||
| Again, I'm not worried about getting sick from the coronavirus. | ||
| I think if I had it, I already did the worst of it. | ||
| Some people say, oh no, it comes back worse. | ||
| I don't know. It's not going to kill me. | ||
| But I think at a certain level... | ||
| There's kind of a guilt factor. | ||
| Like, do I need to be responsible and not go out and risk the coronavirus continuing to spread? | ||
| You know, and there's that level of this. | ||
| Is it selfish for me to say, I'm not going to get sick. | ||
| I'm 30 years old and healthy. | ||
| Screw the coronavirus. | ||
| And then I travel the world and I end up catching it, but I may not get, but I get someone else sick from it. | ||
| Right, and I think that's what a lot of people, and a lot of conservatives, because, you know, we have had even our own president try to compare coronavirus to the flu, say that it's really not that deadly, we don't need to worry about it. | ||
| People have been downplaying this for weeks, and of course we have this big fight going on right now between people hating the media's coverage of this, people, you know, hating the way President Trump is covering this, people loving the way the media is covering this, loving the way that Trump is covering this. | ||
| So people are really divided at this point, and again, You should really just make your own informed decision and keep watching what's been going on, I guess, around the world. | ||
| But as more information is coming out and it continues to spread around America, I do think that maybe people should start getting more concerned about it just because, again, you might be healthy, you might be young, we might not die from the coronavirus, but if we spread it to an elderly person or someone whose immune system is compromised, that is really unfair to them and we are a part of spreading that now at that point. | ||
| Yeah, I think if I have any fears of the coronavirus, that I'm weighing, taking a trip or not, it's this. | ||
| One, my top fear is that I'll get there wherever I'm at, And all of a sudden, there'll be like a government shutdown or mandatory lockdown or whatever. | ||
| And so now I'm in a different city or different state or whatever. | ||
| And I'm dealing with a completely unprecedented set of travel situations. | ||
| And so I don't want to deal with that. | ||
| Again, then there's a level of guilt like, hey, maybe I have the coronavirus. | ||
| Maybe I don't. Maybe I get it. | ||
| I may not get sick, but I may continue the passage. | ||
| I may continue this and spread. | ||
| That's like my second fear. | ||
| And then the third fear is me actually getting sick. | ||
| I don't think... I will die from the coronavirus. | ||
| I don't think. Maybe I get sick again. | ||
| I don't think I'll die. But if I spread it, maybe someone through the chain of that spread is 70 and sick and maybe they die. | ||
| I don't want to be a part of that. So I think, I don't know. | ||
| I don't want to be a part of the hysteria, but I don't want to be telling people, hey, it's not bad, and then it ends up being bad. | ||
| It really is a tightrope that we're kind of walking here. | ||
| We're just going to have to keep monitoring the situation, definitely, and that's all that we can do at this point. | ||
| But again, as it does continue to spread, I think that everyone should start taking more precautions to keep it from spreading, and that's where we are right now. | ||
| It's just don't have this mass hysteria about it. | ||
| Don't go to the store right now and fight someone in the aisles over toilet paper. | ||
| Because the average person probably isn't going to die from coronavirus. | ||
| But be aware that this is a disease that is spreading. | ||
| It's also a disease or an infection, whatever, I guess the correct terminology for it is, that is new to the U.S. It's one that has never been introduced to us before. | ||
| And a lot of people have been bringing that to light too. | ||
| The flu, we have a vaccine for it. | ||
| It's something that we've seen before. | ||
| But coronavirus is... | ||
| Something that has never been in America before. | ||
| So, you know, we don't know how to handle this situation, the spread, the infection, I guess, handling it right now. | ||
| So that's what people need to be aware of. | ||
| I put out a tweet poll. | ||
| How worried are you about the coronavirus? | ||
| Guys, pull it up right now. | ||
| Let's ask Savannah Hernandez. | ||
| I actually voted on this. | ||
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What did you vote? I put mildly worried. | |
| Because like I said, I'm not worried about it, but I do think that it's a concern that should be in the back of everyone's mind and everyone should be aware of not spreading it. | ||
| So that's why I put mildly worried. | ||
| I just see what's happening in Italy right now and to me that's the biggest indication that we should be taking this seriously. | ||
| Because all the media coverage and all of that stuff aside, okay, fine, we know the media is fake, we know they hate Trump, they'll do anything to bring down Trump. | ||
| Whether that means, you know, spreading fake news, crashing the economy, making up fake hate crimes. | ||
| Yeah, but I don't think that the media has really been spreading fake news about the coronavirus here. | ||
| Sorry to cut you off there. | ||
| But I really think that they've been pretty diligent in reporting what's actually been going on. | ||
| And Trump saying that they're reporting this to crash the stock markets, I think is very unfair and not a good equivalency, honestly. | ||
| I think they're definitely using it. | ||
| They would love to see the economy crash. | ||
| You know, I'm not saying that means their reporting is necessarily dishonest, but they would love to see the economy crash so they could blame Trump and hopefully ultimately get him out of office. | ||
| He will be speaking tonight, 8 p.m. | ||
| Eastern. I really think this tweet today, I am fully prepared to use the full power of the federal government to deal with our current challenge of the coronavirus. | ||
| I think that's an indication that they're about to get things going, full lockdown. | ||
| And that's, again, that's the reason why I'm afraid, folks. | ||
| Because I know for a fact, okay, I know for a fact, government and bureaucracies are planned for the worst. | ||
| They're buying up everything. | ||
| They have contingency plans for the worst. | ||
| On the front end, they seem to not make a big deal of it. | ||
| Very odd. Back end, they're total panic mode, basically. | ||
| So, if Trump comes out and says lockdown... | ||
| And by the way, why are people... | ||
| What is this deal with toilet paper? | ||
| Do people know you can't eat that? | ||
| I really don't know. | ||
| Can you... I mean, I guess you could eat toilet paper. | ||
| I have no idea what the big deal about it is. | ||
| You think that people would be fighting over storable food. | ||
| Like rice and beans? Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Canned food, frozen food, but it's toilet paper. | ||
| Why is that the product of rice? | ||
| I'm not sure. Like, that's actually funny because I'm sitting here thinking like, okay, if I was going to go to the store right now, just for a two-week lockdown, let's say... | ||
| I don't eat frozen food, but, like, I would just be stocking everything frozen food with preservatives. | ||
| So the crew just flashed up this episode of My Strange Addiction, and that woman actually did eat toilet paper? | ||
| So you can eat toilet paper. | ||
| Yeah, but I think you told me that that whole show is fake. | ||
| High in fiber. | ||
| Toilet paper aisle. So I guess you can eat it. | ||
| There's your answer. So there you go. | ||
| Stock up on toilet paper. You won't starve. | ||
| Okay. I was actually about to put this out in a tweet, but I'll just say it right here. | ||
| I withhold from commenting a lot on Twitter. | ||
| In fact, I only put out about 1% of my commentary on Twitter. | ||
| Now, there's many different reasons for this. | ||
| I'm going to explain one of them right now. | ||
| At least in a small way. | ||
| I don't want certain people To be... | ||
| How do I say this? | ||
| I don't want to word it the wrong way. | ||
| I don't want my name to be attached to certain people that will then end up sullying them inside of these little in-groups and inside of these, you know, D.C. and other areas. | ||
| Like, here's a perfect example. | ||
| We talked about Raheem Kassam earlier. | ||
| With Milo Yiannopoulos. | ||
| Now, what Raheem has done is great work. | ||
| It's brilliant. And they can demonize him and say, oh, you're just doing this for clout. | ||
| Well, you know what? Even if he was, so what? | ||
| It's a real issue. He was at CPAC. He wanted to get tested for coronavirus because someone there... | ||
| Tested positive, and so he just made public his process and his reporting on it. | ||
| Thank God he did. I was following it. | ||
| I was at CPAC. Now, and see, here's the other thing, because, again, I don't want to create rifts or divides or make a big thing of it or, like, attack CPAC or attack Matt Schlapp or get involved in this commentary so that now, oh, Infowars and Schroyer's name is in there, so now that, like, muddies the waters even more. | ||
| But now Schlapp is going on air ripping Kassam for reporting on this because it makes him look bad. | ||
| Why? Because CPAC... Did more to protect the attendees from opinions than they did from a viral outbreak. | ||
| And so now Matt Schlapp is running around trying to cover that. | ||
| Again, I don't want to get in this infighting. | ||
| I don't want to create these ripples. I won't do this commentary on Twitter because once people see it on Twitter, it's permanent and everybody can see it and access it. | ||
| Most people, they won't tune into this or even see this unless they're fans of InfoWars or tune in every day. | ||
| But let me tell you something. That is just a small, tiny microscope into conservative ink, but more specifically, CPAC and what they really think about the people that attend, folks. They're more concerned with oppressing and suppressing opinions from getting into CPAC than they are a viral outbreak. | ||
| And then when somebody who could have been affected with that is reporting on it, In very important journalistic work, he gets attacked by Matt Schlapp for doing so. | ||
| But see, now what's coming out on the back end, and this is kind of the idea, folks. | ||
| Raheem Kassan has put more than $50,000 directly into CPAC to hold events and speaking events and such. | ||
| And they just throw him under the bus. | ||
| It's not all they did, folks. | ||
| Let me tell you, to get a booth at CPAC was not cheap, and then they nickel and dime you every way after you get the booth for tens of thousands of dollars. | ||
| You have to pay for internet, which is hundreds of dollars. | ||
| You have to pay for electricity, which is hundreds of dollars. | ||
| They don't even provide it. And then they just shut your booth down, and they don't even tell you, and they say, oh, you can't have access to your booth. | ||
| Or they say, oh, you can't have Owen Schroer at the booth you just paid $10,000 for. | ||
| So, I just wanted to put that out there because I'm not going to provide commentary on social media about this. | ||
| And that's just an idea. | ||
| It's like, I don't... | ||
| That's why this platform is so important, folks. | ||
| It's like Fight Club. | ||
| It's like, this is where you get the real intel. | ||
| This is where you get the real projections. | ||
| This is where you get the most accurate commentary. | ||
| But like the moment you go on social media, they try to ban you. | ||
| The moment you make a comment on social media, everyone twists your words. | ||
| And it becomes a story. | ||
| But you see, if you only do it right here on the Infowars airwaves, you force them to cover you on the airwaves. | ||
| Which they never will do. | ||
| Because they act like we don't exist. | ||
| We're not on air. And so by them covering what we say on these airwaves, that's now our new form of marketing. | ||
| So it's like, I'm better saying something here that they'll attack me for and make a big deal of. | ||
| Because now they're like, wait a second, where did he say that? | ||
| Oh, he's live? | ||
| Oh, Infowars is live 10 hours a day? | ||
| Oh! So this is the games we have to play. | ||
| Now... Let me just do this because I've been a very bad boy. | ||
| I've plugged, I think, once today, maybe twice. | ||
| I'm bad, folks. Please. | ||
| I'm bad. Make up for my mistake by going to InfoWarsStore.com and checking out toothpaste, checking out all the survival gear that we have, the coffee that I'm just obsessed with right now. | ||
| By the way, Norm Pattis came in and was like, oh, you haven't slept in days. | ||
| He was joking. I didn't tell him that. | ||
| I literally haven't slept in days. | ||
| In fact, it's been... Three nights in a row I haven't slept. | ||
| So I'm like sucking down the coffee right now. | ||
| And I think it's kind of a problem because the coffee is so good. | ||
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It's like I'm getting addicted to it, I think. | |
| And I just don't want to end up drinking four cups of coffee every day. | ||
| It's kind of where I'm at right now. | ||
| Patriot blend, 100% organic coffee. | ||
| Here it goes down, down into my belly. | ||
| So you can get it at InfoWarsStore.com. | ||
| Exactly. This is a household item. | ||
| If you drink coffee, why not get your coffee from InfoWarsStore? | ||
| Now, let me also say this. | ||
| Again, folks, I do not want to be the person that drives fear. | ||
| It's the last thing I want to do. | ||
| I want to drive courage to But not fear. | ||
| And so... | ||
| I don't want to sit here and be part of a mass hysteria that the mainstream media is engaging in. | ||
| But let me tell you this. | ||
| And everybody knows I've been maybe the most reserved on this coronavirus thing of all the people at Infowars. | ||
| And so I'm not hedging that, but I'm telling you this. | ||
| If the president comes out tonight... | ||
| And talks about quarantine or lockdown or canceling all these events, folks, there's going to be mass panic. | ||
| Whether it's legitimate or not over the virus, only time will tell. | ||
| But there will be mass panic. | ||
| The shelves will be emptied. | ||
| And again, I have not wanted to drive any fear. | ||
| I've not wanted to drive any panic. | ||
| Everybody knows I've been very reserved on my coverage of this. | ||
| But let me tell you, that will... | ||
| Because here's the thing. We have an audience at Infowars. | ||
| Others have an audience. | ||
| But most people, it's not going to resonate. | ||
| They haven't heard about any of this. | ||
| They don't know. They don't know about emergency food. | ||
| They don't know that the supplies are low. | ||
| They don't know the government's buying up silver and iodine and emergency food and ammunition and all this preparing for the worst. | ||
| They don't listen to the other people telling you the truth about this. | ||
| They don't listen to other projections. | ||
| They have no idea what's going on in Italy. | ||
| They never even heard of Wuhan. So that's all fine. | ||
| So it's a small segment that They're even informed enough to have made preemptive moves to prepare themselves for the worst. | ||
| Now, I hope if you go to InfoWareStore.com, we still have a supply of emergency food. | ||
| It takes four weeks minimum, basically, at this point to get it to you because there's so much demand. | ||
| We still have the stock. I just... | ||
| I just wonder how much longer it's going to be like this. | ||
| I wonder how much longer you're going to be able to get it. | ||
| And I'm telling you, my fear is... | ||
| If Trump makes a big announcement tonight, they're already canceling all these events, stores are going to be swarmed. | ||
| And it'll probably happen tonight and tomorrow if the president says it's time to end events, this is serious, this is bad. | ||
| People will freak out because they didn't prepare. | ||
| Not at all. So you can prepare by going to InfoWrestore.com. | ||
| Water filters, emergency food supplies, survival gear. | ||
| It's all at InfoWrestore.com. | ||
| Go there during this break. Make up for me barely plugging today. | ||
| I beg you. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I don't say this to put you into a state of fear or panic, but everything is getting canceled now. | ||
| And I've been reserved in my coverage for obvious reasons. | ||
| But let me just tell you, people behind the scenes have been telling me this is all coming for a while. | ||
| I've not wanted to report on it because I didn't want to be part of the hysteria. | ||
| But it's like, it's already happening now. | ||
| Everything's being canceled. They're holding the NCAA basketball tournament without fans this year. | ||
| I don't know if the women's one will be the same deal. | ||
| Just an old joke. | ||
| Nobody attends women's basketball games anyway, but... | ||
| I don't know if they've canceled fans for all the tournaments, the conference tournaments and the March Madness tournament. | ||
| Bands are canceling shows and tours. | ||
| Colleges are canceling their entire athletic seasons. | ||
| Did we ever find out if UT was shut down today, by the way, guys? | ||
| Campuses are shutting down, ending classes. | ||
| I mean, so this is all really happening now. | ||
| And so, again... | ||
| Whether the virus is as bad as the worst projections or not, this is all happening. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| There will be a major change in society because of this. | ||
| In the short term and maybe even the long term. | ||
| And I now have no doubt in my mind that's the case. | ||
| Again, I'm not afraid of a virus. | ||
| Maybe that's selfish of me. | ||
| But the hysteria and the panic and everything that's about to ensue whether legitimate or not is happening. | ||
| And we're just seeing the beginning phases. | ||
| And again, I don't want you to panic. | ||
| I don't want you to freak out. | ||
| I'm only telling you what's going through my head. | ||
| I wouldn't be saying this if I wasn't on the same wavelength. | ||
| But I think the president's going to make a big announcement tonight, and I think whatever he says is going to drive people to the grocery stores tonight and tomorrow. | ||
| So, do what you need to do to be prepared for about two to four weeks of a major disruption in society. | ||
| And I'm still debating whether I should travel or not. | ||
| Because again, I'm not afraid of the virus. | ||
| I'm afraid of the government response. | ||
| I'm afraid of the societal response. | ||
| But see... | ||
| Now let's go next level. | ||
| This is a major time in world history. | ||
| And so, whatever is happening right now is just a chapter in this book, in this tale, this tall tale. | ||
| And so, I think what is going to happen in the long term is that Americans will realize how inept our government is. | ||
| how fraudulent their control and their power has been, and how desperate we the people really are to get back to being independent, to get back to getting off the system, and to understand some of these geopolitical issues they would never even sniff before. | ||
| So, You know, we may be in that pivotal moment now where it's like the storm is coming. | ||
| It's kind of like if you're in the Midwest or Tornado Alley, as they call it, after a while you pretty much know when there's going to be a storm you need to worry about and when there's not. | ||
| You can see it. So then there's times you're like, oh boy. | ||
| You're like, that's a serious storm. | ||
| You know, we should maybe stay in tonight. | ||
| Or hey, the power might go out. | ||
| Let's get the candles ready. | ||
| You know, keep the fridge closed. | ||
| That seems to kind of be where we're at. | ||
| And then the tornado comes through. | ||
| The power goes out for some time. | ||
| You live off a generator. | ||
| You live without power. | ||
| You live with whatever... Cool, do you have left in your refrigerator? | ||
| I mean, I remember there was probably the biggest storm of my life still. | ||
| I have so many crazy stories about this storm, actually. | ||
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I was about 17 in St. | |
| Louis. Power was out in my neighborhood for five days. | ||
| And we made it out just fine. | ||
| Neighbors had each other's backs. | ||
| Basically public generators. | ||
| I mean, like, that's how society, that's how America's supposed to work. | ||
| But man, most people are going to go into total panic when they see everything around them shutting down. | ||
| And so... | ||
| I just get the feeling that whatever it is we're about to endure, this is the trial, this is the tribulation. | ||
| And you know... | ||
| I'm not one of these guys that's a... | ||
| Trust the plan. Everything's going to be fine. | ||
| Trust Q. Or, you know, Trump's got it all under control. | ||
| He's playing seven-dimensional chess. | ||
| I'm not that guy. | ||
| But I hope that the president is keen enough to understand the timing of this and to ultimately leverage this Into America's advantage, which is look at how dependent we become on China. | ||
| Look at how dependent the average citizen has become on the system. | ||
| Look at what happens when society breaks down just for two weeks. | ||
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Two weeks! That's a problem. | |
| So it's a moment for America to self-reflect, to think about what it means to be independent, to think about our foreign relations, to think about our borders, our trade deals, our health, everything that we haven't thought about for decades that have led to this social degeneration, this cultural degeneration, this political degeneration. | ||
| In this moment, we can turn it all around. | ||
| But if we truly have reached that moment, if we've truly reached the moment of America versus the globalist, the Illuminati versus the people, the deep state versus the people, you knew this was coming. | ||
| Folks, the story goes a little something like this. | ||
| Whoever killed Kennedy and covered it up, Whoever pulled off 9-11 and covered it up. | ||
| Whoever pulled up the lies of weapons of mass destruction and invaded Iraq and covered it up. | ||
| Whoever started the fake Russian collusion narrative and covered it up. | ||
| Same people that released this bioweapon. | ||
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Okay? It's the same group of people. | |
| And now they've played every card they've got. | ||
| And their only hope is to get Trump out of office... | ||
| As a final nail in the coffin of America and the American people. | ||
| And aside from dropping a nuke, which they wouldn't be able to hide, who did it? | ||
| The bioweapon is their last hope. | ||
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And they've done it. They've released it. | |
| So in a way you knew this was coming. | ||
| You didn't want to think it. | ||
| You didn't want it to be real. | ||
| You didn't want to have to deal with it. | ||
| Of course not. But I think, I really think this is where we're at now. | ||
| I really think this is where we're at now. | ||
| And in a way, it's a good thing. | ||
| In a way, it's a good thing. | ||
| It's like, you got cancer, you gotta cut it out. | ||
| But sometimes you don't know you've got cancer until you're sick as a dog, coughing up blood, you know, can't control your bowels, whatever. | ||
| It's like, oh my gosh, like, that was really bad. | ||
| But I found out I had cancer, and now I got rid of it, and I'm healthier. | ||
| So again, I don't know. | ||
| I'm not telling you to be afraid of the coronavirus, but I'm telling you all the signs, all the actions, and now the precautions that are being made. | ||
| I really think we're about to hit a storm here. | ||
| I really do. I don't want it to be that way. | ||
| I hate to have to report this. | ||
| And in fact, I hope I'm wrong. | ||
| But you know I've been treading lightly on this. | ||
| You know I've not wanted to commit to that. | ||
| You know I've not wanted to be a part of the hysteria. | ||
| But I have a sinking feeling about what Trump is going to say tonight. | ||
| Being a domino to fall in a very important series of events for the world and for America. | ||
| So you know what? Here's what I can tell you. | ||
| Go out and get food. Don't. | ||
| You know what? That's none of my business. | ||
| But we should all be on our knees in this time praying to God. | ||
| And we should all be getting right with the creator. | ||
| And getting right with ourselves. | ||
| Because whether the coronavirus kills us all or not, you're going to have to meet your creator someday. | ||
| So... Well, ladies and gentlemen, I sign off for 21 hours. | ||
| I think it'll be a vastly different show with a lot more intel tomorrow. | ||
| Be sure to tune in. | ||
| Six weeks ago, we warned you that the choreographed nature of the global media and governments concerning coronavirus told us it was a major globalist operation. | ||
| Now, whether it's super deadly or not, the issue is it's being used by the globalists as a weapon against the world economy and against nation states and against the populist movement here in America and against Infowars. | ||
| And that means against you. | ||
| So however you're going to do it, now is the time to get ready and to get prepared with emergency supplies And items that are known to boost your immune system. | ||
| They're all at InfoWarsStore.com. | ||
| High quality storeable food when nobody else has got it. | ||
| Super powerful formulas like DNA Force Plus, X2, X3, Body's Ultimate Turmeric Formula, and our NanoSilver line of products. | ||
| A bunch of which has been sold out, but a bunch of which is coming back in later this week. | ||
| So check it all out at InfoWarsTore.com and get prepared. | ||
| Thanks for watching. | ||
| What do you think is really going on? | ||
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And thanks for calling. Thanks for taking my call, Alex. | |
| I've been listening to you since about 2015. | ||
| I've got about... Eleven of your products in front of me. | ||
| Bodies, Silver Bullet. | ||
| I got some of the Super Blue Silver before it, you know, sold out. | ||
| And Micro ZX, DNA Force, X2, Z Shield. | ||
| Super Female Vitality, my wife takes. | ||
| Selenium, Chill Force. | ||
| Toothpaste. I was using the Super Blue and then got the Super Silver, which is even greater. | ||
| So yes, I was in Costco a couple weeks ago. | ||
| I was getting ready. I went to buy a bunch of toilet paper and some things before crowds really hit. | ||
| And I had my phone. | ||
| I had your show going on, sticking out my pocket so I could hear it. | ||
| I wasn't using headphones. This lady stops, she says, who are you listening to? | ||
| Who's that talking? And I expected, at first I thought, because of where I live, it's quite a leftist city, and I thought I might get some flack, but I said, this is Alex Jones. | ||
| And she just got, her eyes got wide open, and she says, really? | ||
| I thought he was off the air. | ||
| And I said, no. | ||
| And I told her, I explained, you know, the whole situation and told her where to go. | ||
| She wrote down, you know, band.video and also Infowars.com and just said she's still on. | ||
| And she was really grateful. | ||
| And I just, you know, it was great to have that. | ||
| What he's saying is the secret to everything in the Infowars, not just for this broadcast, but for all of them. | ||
| People are so trusting of mainstream media that when they heard Jones is off the air, I run into people at the grocery store, at the mall, at church, at the doctor, on the hike and bike trail, and they go, oh Alex, I used to love you. | ||
| I wish you were still on air. | ||
| Are you ever going to go back on air? And I'm like, we're on We've got hundreds of radio stations, over 100 TV stations and cable stations. | ||
| We have our own streams at InfoWars.com and man.video. | ||
| And they go, really? They said you were off the air because they took the deplatforming as off the air because everybody always thinks of things as like talk show hosts, like Matt Lauer gets taken off, he's off. | ||
| No, we have our own platform. | ||
| InfoWars! InfoWars! |
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