Roger Stone’s prosecution saw federal prosecutors initially push for 7–9 years, later slashed to 15–18 months after DOJ revisions, amid four resignations and a controversial gag order Norm Pattis calls "unprecedented." Tyler Nixon warns of civil rights violations and a two-tier justice system, while Owen Shroyer ties it to Trump’s persecution by partisan actors like Chuck Schumer. Meanwhile, Jussie Smollett’s reinstated felony indictments—despite dropped misdemeanors—highlight Chicago’s wasted resources on his race-based claims, with Pattis dismissing his legal defenses. Guests argue systemic weaponization targets conservatives, enabling liberal policies that fuel crime and homelessness while silencing dissent, risking societal collapse if unchecked. [Automatically generated summary]
We are at Gilbert H. Hood Middle School in Derry, New Hampshire in front of election judge Beth.
There she is right there.
Beth is walking over there. She was caught on tape about 30 minutes ago telling us the sorts of candidates that we should vote for and talking about Rush Limbaugh.
Which is apparently against the law here in New Hampshire.
And again, this is where we are in the state on primary day.
The polls are about to close in a few minutes and we're going to talk to Beth and see what she says.
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We're just wondering, like, who has a better chance of beating Trump?
Because that's all we care about.
I wish I could tell you.
Nobody can really predict the future.
But, yeah, I've been campaigning for one of them, but I can't tell you that.
So, okay, so say if there's, like, top, say, like, top two, which one do you think?
and then we can maybe like split it or something.
Split it?
Yeah, you know what I mean?
To make sure, yeah, like make sure one of them gets in, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't, you don't know like top two maybe?
I mean that's like, it's still not one.
Last night it was Bernie and, I'm not gonna change it.
Okay. Okay.
So, there you go.
Okay. I can only tell you what was on the TV. Okay.
Can you tell us if that's wise or not?
Oh, I think it is.
Okay. Okay. I think voting any Democrat is wise.
Definitely. Okay. Yeah. I'll tell you, I was almost in tears when he gave that award to that radio.
So in terms of the law, the law is statute 65944 defined in the New Hampshire law, shall electioneer while in the performance of his or her official duties.
For the purposes of this section, electioneer means to act in any way specifically designed to influence the vote of a voter on any question or office.
Any person who violates this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
That's what statute 65944 says.
She was not aware of this statute.
She said as much.
Are you allowed to get political as an election judge?
You're not allowed, but was it getting political by talking about Rush Limbaugh?
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Yeah, when they asked me about it, I guess I shouldn't have replied to them, huh?
And then Tyler Nixon is going to be joining me at the top of the second hour.
And of course with Tyler we'll really be focusing in on what's happening in the Roger Stone trial right now.
I know that Norm is going to want to weigh in on the Roger Stone trial.
I'm going to bring up some other stories and legal issues for Norm to do some commentary on, including what's going on with Jussie Smollett and a journalist that was arrested in New York while filming an arrest.
So we'll have all that going on as well as some other news.
Of course, it seems as though President Trump Commenting on the treatment of Roger Stone is getting a lot of focus right now,
and rightfully so. And we tend to kind of move on from these atrocities of the judicial system once the news cycle has kind of worn itself thin.
But what happened to Roger Stone is absolutely dangerous and could happen to anybody.
And so for the president to be looking at this and the DOJ to be stepping in as well as perhaps another technicality that may have some ties to Trump that had the prosecution End up quitting this case.
After all the time and effort and everything.
And Norm will give us his take on that.
I'm sure Tyler Nixon will be giving us some behind the scenes breakdown and information if there's any available.
But the truth is it's The people that set up and framed Roger Stone that should be going to jail.
And whatever sentence they thought they would give Roger, they probably deserve.
But we'll get into that with the legal experts.
We've got Trump praising the big tech companies, which is a little bit of a spit in the eye to his base, to his supporters, the grassroots that have been pretty much Chopped down from social media by big tech.
But in a weird...
I don't even know what you would call it.
It's not a 3D chess move.
I think it's a...
Trump hoping that eventually he can bring America together...
Knowing these are American companies...
And that they could really help America and Americans.
And so he's hoping by giving them the good guy treatment, maybe they'll work with him, maybe they'll finally try to uplift America.
And I'm thinking about this, and I'm just thinking, you know, it's no secret.
How much money these guys are worth.
Now, how much of it is assets?
How much is liquefied?
How much is cash?
You know, whatever. But it's no doubt these guys are all filthy rich.
All white liberals, by the way.
And it's no doubt that they have the biggest companies in the tech industry between as Trump calls it the mag of tech with Microsoft Apple Google and Amazon What would it take for these companies to decide We're going to build in America we're going to hire in America we're going to
Really think America first when it comes to our professional business infrastructure with production and with marketing and with everything With hiring, what would that take?
And if you really want to get down to just the brass tacks, it would take money.
Yeah, you're going to have to not take advantage of the lack of Chinese labor laws and the lack of Chinese minimum wage laws.
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And so that's the thing. Bernie Sanders can come up here and say, 20 bucks minimum wage.
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All right, Norm Pattis, great legal mind, joins me on the other side.
You know, there's a bunch of stuff that Norm and I could talk about we're not going to get into today.
It's almost like if someone...
Implanted a hidden camera in here.
They'd probably be used against us.
Norm Pattis, great legal mind with me here.
Administrative Failures and Political Uses00:15:19
Oh, well, I guess in comparison, everything has a perspective.
Well, the thing that everyone's talking about as far as legal developments in D.C. right now are concerned, which is amazing how quickly the acquittal of President Trump kind of just gets shuffled under the rug considering how significant that was.
But it's now President Trump's role...
In the Roger Stone case or what people are saying Trump's role was.
So I just want to go over a couple of these headlines and see what this means to you, what these developments mean to you and what goes on in your legal mind when you see this happening.
In Twitter rampage, Trump attacks federal judge to sentence Roger Stone.
By the way, this is kind of like a chronological series of events.
Trump praises Bill Barr for taking over Roger Stone case.
Barr unleashes Justice Department turmoil over Stone case.
Prosecutors quit.
After DOJ says it will override excessive sentencing guidelines for Roger Stone, trial team quits Roger Stone case in dispute over sentence.
So that's kind of the chronology of events here, and it all happened really quick, but you're seeing that from a legal mind that's in court all the time.
I think there was an administrative failure and people are now using that for political purposes.
Here's what I mean. In the federal courts, when a person is found guilty by a jury or pleads guilty by way of a plea bargain, the next step is then sentencing.
And sentencing always takes place according to federal sentencing guidelines.
And that's a very thick book, the commentary in the book is like a Manhattan phone book back from the day of the phone books.
And what you do is you try to determine what the appropriate sentence is by looking at the book, by doing a recipe.
So every offense has a base offense level.
Let's say you get seven points for that.
And then there are offense characteristics that add points.
You then go to a table and you say, well, I've got 29 points.
You look at a person's criminal history, it goes from one to six, and that gives you a sentencing range.
What happened in this, and routinely, parties submit to the court sentencing memoranda with their estimate of what the appropriate sentence should be.
Federal officials, probation officials, or pretrial service officials actually also submit their own recommendations to the judge.
In the end, the judge makes her own mind up about what the appropriate sentence is.
So there's nothing binding about these recommendations.
They're just arguments. You say less filling, I say tastes great.
The judge says you're both wrong.
I don't think it's, you know, it's neither less filling nor tastes great.
In the Stone case, federal prosecutors submitted without approval, and this becomes significant in a moment, from their superiors, a sentencing memoranda that called for seven to nine years for Mr.
Stone. And in it, the calculation that they relied upon was controversial.
They claimed, for example, that the comments he made to his comic friend, whose name I can't recall off the top of my head, amounted to physical threats to a person.
Their superiors looked at that and said, wait, these weren't physical threats.
But by characterizing these comments as physical threats, they added eight points to the base offense level, which significantly increased the incarceration.
Another very controversial move is they called for four additional points for obstruction of justice.
The sentencing guidelines don't permit you to double count conduct.
The lying to Congress carried with it the base offense level.
You don't get four extra points for the same conduct.
So that was overreaching.
In addition, federal prosecutors appeared to ask that Mr.
Stone be punished for engaging in protected speech.
As you will recall, the day after he was convicted, this show, the Alex Jones show, Infowars, was criticized because apparently Mr.
Jones or a representative of Mr.
Stone or a representative of his had reached out and Alex suggested that Trump pardon him.
Just why he should have been gagged, Rob, Mr.
Stone, after his conviction is a mystery to me.
He should have challenged that ruling immediately.
I can't think of a case in the United States where somebody was gagged from petitioning for redress of grievances.
So what had happened is prosecutors submit this sentencing memorandum.
In a typical high-profile public integrity sort of prosecution, those sentencing memorandas and recommendations have to be approved by a very high level of the Justice Department's deputy attorney general, sometimes the attorney general itself.
Reading the New York Times this morning, it appears that there was an administrative change, a change in leadership in that line, and these prosecutors jumped the line.
They submitted the memo without approval from their superiors.
Because it's a high-profile case, it then went viral.
Apparently, others read about it and reacted.
Trump reacted. Now, you know, the calls that somehow Trump overstepped his boundaries and the republic is once again at risk and we should entertain a new impeachment because of this boundless egomaniac are simply ridiculous.
This was a standard sentencing memoranda.
It was overdone from the standpoint of the superiors in the Justice Department.
They walked it back. What I find shocking is that four prosecutors, people of integrity, quit over this.
And, you know, from my perspective, this does material harm to Mr.
Stone's prospects at sentencing because now it's creating pressure on the judge.
This is so outrageous.
Prosecutors had to quit. Look what the president did.
I call it the T-Hedl effect.
They couldn't win on the impeachment.
That was a partisan vote.
A lot of time and money and effort went into this.
And the Democrats were crying foul, the republic is at risk.
And now it's the same tune, just a different target.
It's Roger Stone.
And the resignation of the four prosecutors sends a signal to the judge, do something to save the republic.
Here's a better message for the Justice Department.
Get your ducks in a row before you submit a sentencing memorandum.
Get approval up the chain of command.
And don't quit and take your marbles and go home and go crying to the New York Times that the Republic is at stake because you couldn't take the heat and get your job done the right way in the first instance.
The sentence that was called for for Stone initially was outrageous.
It would have been overturned on appeal almost certainly.
If a judge sentences a person for engaging in protected speech, that's going nowhere.
Physical obstruction, even the comedian wrote a sentencing letter as part of the defense sentencing memorandum, said, I never felt physically threatened.
What are they talking about? Now, the trial court was not obliged at the time or is not obliged at the time of sentencing to credit that.
It can either accept it or not.
But what I think is unacceptable is politicization of the Stone prosecution at this point.
A jury found him guilty of lying to Congress, and from what I can read in the papers, he probably did.
A jury found him guilty of trying to intimidate a witness.
I don't think it was a physical intimidation.
Some of the emails are ugly.
As a day-to-day criminal practitioner who reads the cookbook, does the calculations, goes to court almost every day that courts are open, the sentence was ridiculous.
My view is something in the 18-month to two-year range is what's appropriate in this case, and that's what he should get.
No, no. Anytime a public official, and I'm not sure Stone meets that definition, but he's close enough given his proximity to the president, those are routinely reviewed in Washington.
I'm in Connecticut, a small state.
If somebody is prosecuted in a crime of this sort, it is referred up the chain of command in Washington, D.C., and decisions have to be viewed.
I would be careful about using the word judge here.
They had a senior prosecutor, but there are 94 district courts.
Yes, and therefore 94 U.S. attorneys in various jurisdictions.
The District of Columbia has its own United States attorney.
They report centrally to the Justice Department and to a Deputy Attorney General and then the Attorney General himself.
In this case, there was a new District of Columbia, United States Attorney, appointed recently, within the past week or so.
And it appears that this sentencing memoranda went up without his approval or that he saw it and didn't pass it up to the Deputy Attorney General.
And so, as a result, the centralized office, the people up top, didn't approve of the memo.
And when they heard about it and read it, they then submitted a supplemental memorandum, I believe today.
I read it in the New York Times, so maybe last night.
And in that memoranda, which I took a look at today, it calls for deleting the eight points for physical intimidation of a witness, and it calls for eliminating the four points for obstruction of justice.
They leave to the judge the appropriate sentence.
I believe the guideline sentence without those 12 points is 15 to 18 months.
And so I would expect Stone to be sentenced somewhere in that range.
This judge will probably split the baby, and that's the danger from what I'll call the hissy fit from the four quitting prosecutors, that she may split the baby and make it three or four years.
But this issue now becomes ripe for appellate review.
Well, and to be clear here, you're laying things out from just a legal perspective.
You're not giving any opinions.
You're going over the facts of the matter.
It's my opinion, basically, that, or it's my analogy, I guess I should say, and you can agree or disagree or just hold or knock if you'd like, but it seems to me like these prosecutors kind of pulled a quick one and said, okay, you know what?
We didn't get what we just fought for, so we're going to take our ball and go home.
And, like, they're the basketball team.
Oh, we're taking our ball and going home.
This one's on you, coach.
And the coach would be the judge.
Now, I think that this prosecution, including the judge, is a little more crooked than probably you'd like to say or that you would even agree with.
But I think that that's kind of what you look like.
You call it a hissy fit, but it does seem kind of petty after all the work to go through.
To just kind of throw your hands up when you don't get your way in the end instead of seeing it through.
I would say it's shocking. I've never seen anything like it.
But I don't think it's shocking because there's never been anything as outrageous as that before.
Most of us who work in organizations are accountable to someone.
These line prosecutors were accountable to people above them who disagreed.
It would have been preferable and better for the Republic if they had gone through appropriate channels.
But I think the change of personnel made it impossible to get the approval.
They dug in, and this is what we have.
Now, quitting, I think, is act hunger, or what I'll call the tea kettle boiling over.
You know, one of the prosecutors was part of the Mueller investigation, and undoubtedly they were looking for big scalps in that investigation and didn't get what they were looking for.
Roger Stone's as close as they're going to get to the president, and I think that there was a little bit of act hunger.
Now, this is the one that's really up your alley here, and I think actually goes beyond just this case, but it's a serious discussion that needs to be looked at here, and that's the court essentially gagging Roger Stone and then using his free speech against him.
Now, to me, this is a threat of tyranny to say, you're not going to be allowed to talk about your court case, and quite frankly, I mean...
I think the debate could be made that they didn't even have legal grounds to gag Roger Stone, but let's say they do.
To me, this is a sign of tyranny where you're basically saying, okay, you're going to get hold in front of a judge and these prosecutors, and they're going to levy everything they can against you, and if you think you're being railroaded or you think there's something corrupt happening here, guess what?
I have never seen a gag order like this in any criminal case, nor have I read about one.
I'm challenging a gag order, or at least I was.
The client I was challenging it for committed suicide last week.
It's unclear what will become of that case.
But gag orders are typically imposed by a trial judge to assure that jurors are not contaminated by extraneous information.
The jury had spoken in this case.
The only person who had to speak yet was the lifetime appointee presumed to follow the law judge.
Mr. Stone has a First Amendment right to petition for the redress of grievances.
In my view, he would have been well within his rights to stand in the well of the court the moment that jury returned a verdict and make a direct appeal to the president for a pardon.
The judge's decision to try to silence him with a gag order is unprecedented.
I think his lawyers missed an opportunity to go to the District of Columbia Appellate Court and, if necessary, the United States Supreme Court immediately to stand for free speech.
I wasn't at the trial.
I know I'm a host on your show, and off-air we talked, you know, you're saying, you know, you don't believe that Mr.
Stone is guilty. You may know far more about that trial than I do.
I only know what I read in the paper.
Whether he's guilty or not, he did not shed the right to speak once the jury left the room.
And for this judge to order, that was outrageous.
And I would appeal to Mr.
Stone and his counsel to make an issue of this.
To make an issue of it in an appellate court because the danger with rulings such as this is they become persuasive authority down the line.
Some other judge is going to say, hey, she got away with it.
I can too. And under our system of law, when a series of judges make decisions that look the same, that's called the development of legal doctrine.
And once ideas get in judges' minds, it's very, very hard to remove it.
Well, and I guess for, I mean, I can't even imagine, you've been practicing law for a long time, studying law, decades, and recently, I mean, you might even say you've had a client that they attempted to gag in a court case.
So, I mean, do you think that that trend indicates something larger that's happening politically right now?
And then it even gets worse when, you know, they're looking at the Roger Stone case and they file this motion that he needs to be jailed longer because he talks to Alex Jones.
Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, I mean, any case involving any so-called high profile case takes on a life of its own.
So, you know, I've had several of these cases where the level of public interest is overwhelming.
In a case of mine, a client killed himself.
A couple of weeks ago now, but I still get 10 calls a day about the case from reporters around the country.
They just can't let it go. Now, Smollett, you know, he struck a chord.
He played the race game.
In my view, he race-pandered.
Some people say he concocted this stunt to bolster a flagging career.
He made accusations.
The charges he raised went nowhere.
He was initially charged with misdemeanors.
Those charges were dropped.
In the course of investigating his claim, the Chicago Police Department spent $130,000 on overtime.
Smollett posted a $10,000 bond.
When he walked away from the charges, he agreed to let the police keep his bond.
Some people in Chicago are still upset that he race-pandered on their dime, brought scorn to the city, and wasted an enormous amount of time.
Chicago has a tremendous homicide rate.
They could have been out looking for killers instead of playing in somebody's racially driven pipe dream.
So prosecutors have gone to a grand jury and they've charged him with felony counts relating to the obstruction of justice and lying.
These are different charges.
Smollett's people are saying, wait a minute, that's a second bite at the apple.
We made a deal with you people.
We let you keep the $10,000 bond.
And they say that in one breath.
In the next breath, they're suing for malicious prosecution.
Here's a newsflash.
Their malicious prosecution claim will go nowhere because Mr.
Smollett permitted Chicago to keep the $10,000 bond.
In order as a matter of federal law to prevail on a malicious prosecution claim, you have to have a complete exoneration, which means you give nothing, not even the bond.
So his claims against the city will lose.
There are no double jeopardy claims against him in this case because jeopardy doesn't attach, or involving him I should say, jeopardy doesn't attach until a jury is sworn.
So it is the case that from time to time prosecutors will bring a case, drop it, develop additional information and reinstitute the charges.
Is it worth it in the Smollett case?
You know, I mean, this is, again, another political lightning rod case.
To his detractors, he's a man who played the race card, got burned, and we need to make an example of him so that we can put an end to identity politics.
Well, let me ask you this, and I think that this is why it reaches this unprecedented realm other than just the disorderly conduct or the lying to police or the false police report or whatever.
I mean, what if, let's say that there was some sort of We're good to go.
And do you think, you know, as far as Smollett's defense team is considered, I mean, how much is this to just try to save face for him publicly?
Probably all of it. All right, I want to move on real quick before we let you go.
And the audience may be interested in your legal take on this, and I'm sure it's something you've considered before.
Photo journalists taken into New York Police Department custody while filming Manhattan arrest.
So the story goes, an arrest is happening.
The guy's there filming it.
The police say, you know, back up, put your camera away, whatever.
And he basically just keeps filming.
Well, he ends up being arrested for that.
There's a back and forth as he says.
He claims that he said he was a journalist.
He's a journalist. Police say that, I guess, they didn't hear that until after he was in custody, which is what their excuse is.
But my question to you, Norm, is this.
What legal difference...
Is there in a case like this or a similar case, or really any case, what if any legal difference is there between a citizen and a journalist?
Because I would argue constitutionally there isn't, but I know that that's not how the court of law works.
So in a court of law, how does this change if you can legitimately say, oh, I'm a journalist versus someone who's just a citizen who just, I guess, claims to be a journalist there at the scene?
Here's what I mean. Police officers are entitled to do their job.
If they are arresting someone because they believe there's probable cause that the law was broken, they're entitled to make that arrest without interference.
If a citizen or a journalist is standing by with a camera and they're filming from a distance that does not obstruct the arrest process, they both have equal rights to engage in that conduct.
Police cannot say, you can't film me if they're in a public place.
What no one can do, either journalist or private citizen, is hinder or obstruct or delay an officer in the performance of their lawful duty.
That will get you arrested on almost every state most of the time.
Now, as a practical matter, will officers give people they recognize as journalists a wider berth?
I think they will, because they know for a discretionary call is going to yield more protest.
It's also, you know, we have important First Amendment issues.
But we don't have a constitutional designation of people as quote-unquote journalists with special rights and privileges.
I feel strongly about that.
Now, you know, it from time to time yields awkward consequences in a court of law.
If you're a journalist and you have information that might tend to exculpate or set my client free, I'm going to subpoena you to court and I'm going to ask that you provide that information.
If you claim a journalistic privilege that the law doesn't recognize, I'll ask that you be put in jail until you give me the information I want.
Journalists see otherwise.
They say, well, we're the fourth estate and the fourth estate has special rights and responsibilities under our constitutional system.
I'm not sure that I agree that the fourth estate is a fourth branch of government.
So in the case of the street filming, if this individual said, hey, I'm a journalist and therefore I can interfere, he's wrong every time.
If the police said, we don't know who you are, but if you were a journalist, we'll let you go.
But since we don't know who you are, we're going to arrest you, then they're wrong every time.
There will be a gray area and it's going to have to be decided on a case-by-case basis.
And you know, I would almost make another, because this was in New York, if I was defending this journalist, I would say, how many cameras were filming on that street corner while he was filming, too?
I mean, as long as you're not interfering physically with the arrest, I really don't understand why the police would want to get involved.
All right, Norm Pattis, always great to have him on.
He broke down the legal expertise right here for you.
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Norm Pattis simply breaks these things down from a neutral legal perspective.
And so, you know, he's not going to get into the weeds of whether he thinks someone is corrupt or not.
He's just weighing the legal value of things.
But I think that America sees what happened to Roger Stone.
And the most important aspect of this to me is not whether Roger Stone...
Lied to the FBI or was framed by the FBI. We can have those debates.
We can look at the details. I think what's important is it's another illustration of the two-tier justice system where they can run an entire impeachment scam, use Roger Stone as a pawn in that scam.
The media uses him.
The Democrats use him as a pawn.
And yet, nobody gets arrested on their side.
Nobody gets charged on their side.
Nobody gets investigated on their side.
They started the whole fraud.
They engaged in the hoax.
It was Brennan.
It was Pelosi. And they're going to have the nerve to sit here and say that Roger Stone deserves to get locked up?
No, they do. And they know it.
And so that's the biggest dereliction of justice to me.
And While I'm not facing the same case and punishment that Roger is looking at, I think it's criminal what they did to me for interrupting Jerry Nadler.
I'm not the dirtbag who's running a fraud impeachment scam.
I'm not the dirtbag lying to America.
I'm not the dirtbag wasting millions and millions and millions of taxpayer dollars and tearing this nation apart intentionally.
With known lies sitting in a position of power in the Congress with a gavel.
That wasn't me. I'm just a lowly peon who's not afraid to raise my voice.
But of course, I'm the criminal, not the dirtbags like Jerry Nadler, who are the real criminals.
And that is the dereliction of justice.
That is what has been exposed in this Roger Stone case.
We'll get Tyler Nixon's take on it on the other side.
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Lawyer and legal expert Tyler Nixon is joining me now.
Let's get back into the weeds of the Roger Stone story.
Tyler, I'm not sure if you heard my entire diatribe there in the intro segment to this, but I know you know how I feel about what's going on with Roger Stone and the larger issue.
So, either care to respond to that if you want to, or let me just ask you this as well.
With the latest developments in the Roger Stone case, you know, really, it's almost as if in the entirety of the case, this is like the first break.
At least I measured as kind of a break for Roger, at least maybe some semblance of justice or somebody who wants to see some justice here.
But what do you make of the latest developments in the Stone case?
And do you agree with my analysis from the last segment?
You have a sense for rebelliousness or revolt against illegitimate power and coercion exercised by illegitimate opportunistic parasites like we have running Well, not running the government necessarily, but certainly in the Democrat side, running parts of our government.
Hopefully that's changing soon.
I'll tell you what, yesterday after over a year of this ordeal, which really was more than a year because they began essentially dismantling or dissecting Roger's life, calling in everybody he works with.
Rummaging through his garbage, you name it, for the better part of probably a year leading up to when he was indicted, and then he was indicted just over a year ago.
It was January 25th, a date which will live in infamy in my personal life or my sense of...
Anything. And, you know, it's been a year of just constant piling on with this government juggernaut run by abusive, malicious, power-mad, crypto-partisan, corrupt prosecutors.
Persecutors, really, is what they are.
They're not prosecutors. They're persecutors.
Running Roger through this completely contrived, overblown, bogus hair-splitting, but yet Highly consequential on paper, because of the penalties involved, case against him.
And this is the first, yesterday was the first year, and Roger agreed with me, I texted him late last night and said, I think this is the first day that we, you know, you've actually had a break, that we've actually been able to see some level of ray of hope for justice in this matter.
And the people who have abused and tortured in many ways, Roger Stone, bankrupted him Have framed him, have railroaded him, are now being scattered.
They're scattering like bugs.
Now that President Trump and Attorney General Barr have focused on this case and the outrage, the outrageous sentencing memorandum they submitted, which was frankly chock full of outright falsehoods, misstatements, manipulations, very just consistent with how they ran the entire case.
I mean, I could probably run through – I mean, I couldn't believe it.
I was four pages in, and I was like, this is insane.
I mean, I'm literally reading statements of fact or statements made as fact as though they were proven at trial, which were outright false and clearly damaging to Roger.
And it was literally like – I felt like I had just read a DNC talking points memo.
That's who it could have been drafted by.
And that's frankly who these crooked, despicable prosecutors were serving in the end.
I mean, these were Hillary Obama loyalists embedded in the Department of Justice who were tasked and assigned To essentially string up Roger Stone to lynch him.
I call it the witch hunt lynch mob is what these guys were.
There were four of them.
They were gleeful.
They were over the top, manipulative, disingenuous, deceitful in bringing this malicious prosecution against Roger and destroying his life.
And now he faces prison and they have the gall of To present a bogus fantasy derived sentencing memorandum asking for seven to nine years of a 67 year old man's life behind bars.
Knowing that that's just outlandish even for, I mean, if there were victims involved or it was a property or a person, you know, a harmed property or person offense, he would probably never have gotten anything close to that.
It's just sandbagging and it reflects the psychopathic evil that these people are bringing to their positions of trust and power.
And, you know, no one's safe, frankly, if they can get away with this.
And it was just, honestly, so enthralling, yet almost sort of, I don't know, it's like the end of a 25-mile ruck march where you're glad to be slumped down and finally at rest for a moment.
And it feels great, but at the same time, you're just, you're exhausted of it, you know?
It's like there's not, there was, even in a situation like that, you've actually made progress, you've traveled.
And this, it's just been a complete We're good to go.
Who was absolutely, in my view, way outside of her...
Well, let's actually get to that because, I mean, I guess what happens next is it kind of just lands in the judge's lap.
I mean, they're not going to reassign prosecution and have them re-examine this case or re-try this case or what have you.
Well, there might be...
Well, and I guess comment on that because, I mean, to me it looks like, I guess it's just going to land in Judge Jackson in her lap, to which I understand the positive, which is like, hey, the president is seeing this, the Justice Department is seeing this, they know it's wrong what's being done to Roger, but at the same time, until there's action, you're still kind of sitting here now at the whim of the judge, but you're saying that perhaps there is a new prosecution that steps in, and then what happens?
No, I'm not saying there's a new prosecution that steps in.
I mean, these guys, and let's get something straight here.
If you don't think that that whole stunt yesterday The entire sentencing memorandum, which was an over-the-top, like I said, practically a DNC talking points, might as well have been out of one of the bogus lawsuits they filed against Roger and President Trump a year before that, or two years now.
It read absolutely like just a litany of these presumptuous conclusion leaps that they made where a 24-word exchange with some I mean, it's literally insane.
And it's beyond the realm of legitimate, credible, ethical attorneys to have done what they did.
You know, it requires not only malice, but in my view, a criminal intent to defile the justice system as they have and come after Roger.
I mean, these are criminals. These are not unethical lawyers.
They're criminals. So that being said, they're off the case, which is a, you know, and I think they I don't know.
This was contrived, okay?
Don't kid yourself. These guys didn't just decide on a moment's notice that they were going to leave their positions.
Now, I don't know. I'm not clear yet because of the reporting, whether some of them resigned from the actual Justice Department or withdrew from the case.
I don't know what the distinction is there.
Now, withdrawing from the case is obviously far less of a A statement to make.
An attorney can withdraw from a case and it's not like you've thrown your career over the side or you've left your employer.
So I think it's been a little bit overblown in the media.
I don't know. I haven't clarified that yet.
But that being said, They knew that this was way over the top, that it would not be received by any credible or reasonable or rational observer attorney within the Justice Department as being within the guidelines and within the normal procedure.
So they're claiming here that they want – this is the ruse that they've created, similar to how they've created the entire case against Roger, where they put up this false, ridiculous – Document in the form of a sentencing guideline that's way over the top, and they know it. They know it's over the top.
And immediately draw the rebuke righteously of the Career Justice Department folks.
It wasn't Barr himself.
I mean, I think he stepped in because he saw that this is so insane.
Spark here is them claiming Trump colluded with Russia and somehow Roger Stone was involved in that.
Well, that whole narrative has been blown out the door.
So the whole case is a fraud.
But what is the legal precedent with that?
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Tyler Nixon is our legal expert guest right now.
I want to kind of I'm going to rephrase my question, Tyler, or I want to give an elementary analogy to the question that I asked you and then get your response to this.
But essentially, to me, what happened is, and again, this is elementary, it's like if I accused my crew of stealing my bicycle and I'm saying the crew stole my bicycle, I'm really upset at the crew, I know they stole it, they're crooks, they stole my bicycle, and And they launch a federal investigation.
And there was a guest in studio that day who was getting along with the crew.
And the guest that day talked to one of the crew members.
And I said, he talked to the crew member that day.
And he didn't remember it. And he was like, I don't think I talked to the crew member that day.
I don't remember meeting that crew member.
I don't know. And then they go and they review some surveillance footage.
And it turns out, oh my gosh, he said hello and shook that crew member's hand.
We caught you lying.
Well, then the next day it turns out, oh, I found my bike.
It was right under my desk. Here's my red bike.
I just got it. No one stole the bike.
Well, this guy still lied to us, so we're going to give him the whole weight of the legal system and arrest him.
I mean... That's ridiculous.
That's not justice at all.
That's the analogy I would give to this.
But what is the legal precedent?
Because I'm sure there's been some sort of precedence around cases that end up flopping, but people either go to jail for lying to the FBI or it gets washed off the record.
Yeah, unfortunately, what you have is you have prosecutorial discretion.
We rely on these people to bring valid cases, to exercise good judgment, and to exercise a sense of justice in bringing these cases where, look, okay, there are extenuating circumstances where, look, the whole thing was a hoax, and there wasn't, you know, what he was being questioned about, for example, was legal conduct.
And it didn't divert the investigation.
And let's not forget, I noticed you mentioned that you questioned whether it was Roger lied to the FBI or not.
Well, it wasn't. He was never accused.
He never spoke to the FBI. It was the House Intelligence Committee and Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell and Quigley and these shysters.
And this is where legitimate prosecutors, real professional, justice minded, impartial to an extent prosecutors, you know, prosecutors aren't supposed to be just absolutely ruthless parties.
They have a higher standard.
They have a greater responsibility because they know they've got the entire power of the government behind them.
And there are presumptions concerning prosecutors that, you know, that they present evidence that is real, that they're not just manufacturing things and stringing people up.
And, you know, unfortunately, when you have a cabal of corrupt prosecutors, as we have, and you have a corrupted DOJ left over from a corrupt president who is abusing everything, I mean, the intelligence community, you know, the feist of the FBI and all of it, You have the ability to have these gotcha crimes, these offenses, I should say, these hair-splitting crimes.
We don't care that this investigation was a fraud.
We don't care that Adam Schiff and his crew are a bunch of psychopathic liars.
We don't care about any of that because you made this false statement and we can show it.
End of story. You can't introduce evidence to anything else.
You can't show that it wasn't material, that there was nothing.
The investigation itself was ill-founded.
I mean, we had intended to try to put the context on it.
And what I call this, I guess you could say, and this is not a legal term, it's my own invention, I guess you could say, is that they have prosecuted and they do this with President Trump and everyone else.
They decontextualize these events.
In other words, they take them out of context and And they hold up a certain behavior and say, look, look, look, you did this, you did this.
Well, hold on a second. There's, you know, other circumstances.
That's why we have a trial.
That's why we have these proceedings so that a trier of fact, an impartial person can look at it and say, okay, well, you know, maybe this statement was not true or it was erroneous or whatever, but it didn't matter.
It was not material. It was to, you know, it was questions asked that were irrelevant and And clearly, the intent of the people who elicited these was not good faith.
I mean, they were partisans.
This whole presumption, for example, that Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell and Joaquin Castro and Himes and Quigley and Jackie Speier on the Intelligence Committee, that they are somehow converted into disinterested Ethical, good-faith investigators because, what, they assume the mantle and the cloak of the House Intelligence Committee?
But I guess my question is, And I know that we can't even necessarily answer this, but it's like, if you're the president's legal team, or you're the president, it's obvious that this whole thing was political, but to me, there has to be enough, you know, wherewithal here, enough intellect here to say, obviously there's some serious alternative motives going on here.
This isn't about justice.
This isn't about the league.
This isn't about protecting the election from Russia.
There's obviously something else going on behind the scenes.
Where is the interest in getting that out there?
Where is the interest in that investigation?
I think this is what has us all so frustrated, watching them getting ready to boil Roger Stone, like a lobster in a boiling pot of water.
And we're just sitting here saying, wait a second, these are the guys that are committing the crimes.
It is boiled over frustration for Roger, for myself, working with him for the last year, watching them systematically deny him, in my view, a fair and due process of law.
Unbelievable. I mean, the violations of his civil rights Are unprecedented in any case I've ever seen in American history and certainly in my own legal career.
I've never heard of such draconian, tyrannical actions.
And frankly, sneaky and, you know, this is the problem with people getting people like this into positions where there is no alternative.
In other words, the courts are our last readout against a tyrannical government.
And when you have a judge who's basically just a rubber stamp Or moreover, I mean, not even a rubber stamp.
There were instances where she didn't even – they didn't even have to make their arguments.
She made them for the government without them even having to ask.
That's how – like in the tank of this sort of anti-stone – And it's the whole like, oh, like, of course.
And that was the other thing, too, that they said, I mean, once the DOJ got their spectacles on this, they said, no, wait a second.
The guy that you said they had threatening speech to, the guy even said he wasn't threatened, but yet you're still using that against him.
Now, hold on, this is clearly not fair.
The whole thing is not fair.
That was just another example of how it's not fair.
And here's what I'm going to do on the other side, Tyler, and I want to get your take on this as well, because This is why this case is so important, folks.
There's a reason why this case is so important, and it should strike fear into the heart and soul of every American.
What they did to Roger Stone, they will do to anybody.
It could be you. Tyler Nixon is still with me here for another segment.
And we've gone through the nuts and bolts of what's been going on to Roger in this case and applying it to the larger issues, but I really want to expand on why this is so scary.
And, you know, Tyler, I think for a lot of people that haven't necessarily been through the legal system, it's a lot harder to grasp how bad this is when it's not your gonads and the ringer.
And you're dealing with a judge and a prosecutor, even for small cases, it can be stressful and it can feel totally hopeless.
Even if people have had, say, a speeding ticket and they're worried about it, the fact that it's hanging out there, that you don't know what's going to happen.
That you don't know how hard they're going to come at you.
You don't know whether you're going to be found guilty and penalized or what the end result is going to be.
That's why it's so dangerous because the justice system is – we expect it to be a place of ethics and of law and of justice and not to be corrupted, not to be treated like a political tool by partisan, malicious partisans, you know, out for vendettas and out for ulterior motives.
And this is exactly what's happened.
And it's so dangerous because it's almost imperceptible because of the power.
I don't think people realize how much prosecutorial discretion is typically – We all know of the, there was a book written called Three Felonies a Day, and it's actually about Andrew Weissman.
It's about, you know, You could probably violate anywhere from 8 to 10 to 20 federal laws in any given day just by going about your normal existence, right?
But obviously they don't prosecute us for those.
The problem is we have literally a federal code and state codes and local codes laden with laws that you almost can't exist without violating the law at some point.
So literally our freedom, our ability to have justice and to have a civil society comes down to The integrity of the people who prosecute or are responsible for law enforcement not going overboard and exercising some level of judgment and humanity and measure to prevent harm, to punish evil deeds, not to just use it as a malicious weapon of whipping people into either obedience or submission or punishing your enemies.
And that's exactly what's going on here.
And you mentioned the frustration.
And what I want to say is this.
We, you know, it was very lonely in a sense because nobody would speak about the case other than, you know, when they came out and said, Roger Stone violated the gag order, you know, as if he's just, his First Amendment rights are just washed away because he's been accused in this ridiculous, over-the-top, malicious prosecution.
And it was very frustrating because you felt like, oh my God, you know, like this, they could really go through with this.
I mean, I couldn't believe it because I know that First of all, the whole case is contrived, but secondly, what the offense is entailed in terms of punishments, and then the feds do not F around, let's just say.
I mean, they come after you, man.
You're going away. I mean, and they win 98% of the cases, so you're almost assured to be not only convicted but imprisoned if you're found guilty of some of these offenses, if they choose to go after it.
And yesterday, I think what it is is nobody wanted to sort of speak out and wanted to presume the good faith and the integrity of the system that was prosecuting Stone.
But I think we all knew that it was tainted.
We all knew and we could see just from the gag order alone, forget the substance of the case, that this was absolutely an attempt to railroad and destroy this man and muzzle his civil rights and treat him as less than human, as less than a citizen.
And, you know, I think everybody has seen this.
And I think what I saw yesterday was almost like an explosion finally of the, you know, you cannot tell me that President Trump did not understand what was going on.
I think he's a keen guy.
And I think he's he's he's someone who does care about his friends, especially someone who he's seeing.
You know, I don't think I don't think Trump's like a touchy feely guy who's like, oh, you know, he loves everybody around him.
But I think he is someone who who abhors injustice and And does not want to see people get screwed or railroaded or, you know, especially under his watch, so to speak.
I think he's the type of guy, he may not be slapping you on the back and telling jokes and making you feel good, but if someone tries to harm you and you're under his sort of umbrella, he will come in like gangbusters and make sure that the bad guys are taken care of and that you're protected.
I like to think that, and I think that's what's going on here because I was shocked at how vigorously he came out and frankly heartened and just, like I said, really absolutely just enthralled because I just felt like, thank God, thank God.
Roger's been through so much.
This is so unjust.
It is so malicious and wicked-tempered, and these people are disgusting, and they should not be in government, and yet they're going to walk away without a scratch while all the criminals in their cabal run free and And this man, who's a private citizen, who simply was attempting, as a journalist, really, to expose the dirt and the corruption of their political masters.
And that is the ultimate crime, exactly, right there, is that the real criminals are the ones running this scam against Trump, against Roger, against all kinds of people, against Alex Jones, against Infowars, and they need to be stopped.
And I think what it comes down to, in so many words, Tyler, and you kind of hinted to this earlier, but what the Democrats have done in practice is they have weaponized the judicial system.
They have weaponized it.
They've turned it into a political weapon.
They've put their activist legal snipers on benches and in black robes to do their bidding.
And, you know, you just get the feeling that they're kind of sitting back behind closed doors just laughing their asses off.
But if you're on the side of good and you're fighting that, you can't do that.
You can't murder in the name of justice.
You can't string people up in the name of a good civil society.
But the thing is, they're willing to do that.
If nothing else, it is exposed how far they're willing to go.
They're willing to literally defile and abuse and corrupt the last redoubt, the last That of the last measure that we have within our constitutional framework and our republic to appeal to a higher power, so to speak, or a neutral party to, you know, in the face of tyrannical abuses by politicians like Schumer and Pelosi and them.
Now they're all in the same sheet of music.
They've co-opted the media, the entire media, really the corporate media, and now they've been trying to co-opt the justice system, and if they get away with it, forget it.
I mean, it will never go back.
They will set the precedent that, you know what, it's just another tool in the weapon of the bag of weapons or the bag of tricks of the autocratic system.
I mean, to hear these people pretend to be constitutionalists, it's like, I mean, it's literally nauseating.
Yeah, no, I agree. All right, Tyler Nixon, thank you so much.
If anything else breaks, we'll get Tyler back on.
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Okay. Let me get to some of the other news.
Let me say this, because I don't even have it on my desk.
That's how irrelevant it is.
But I'm having dinner last night, and I knew the primaries were going on in New Hampshire, and I saw some of the stuff on the news, and I kind of just tried to avoid Twitter, really. And for a second there...
I was thinking to myself, or I was feeling almost a sense of guilt.
Like, you should be covering this, you should be live tweeting this, you should be paying attention to this.
And as I was just sitting there eating my dinner, I realized, you know, it really is totally irrelevant.
What the Democrats are doing right now is totally irrelevant.
There's almost no real national interest...
Except other than like, oh, do they have someone that can beat Trump?
So like Trump is the interest, Trump is somehow the interest of the Democrat nomination process right now.
It's really just all about Trump.
It's not even about their candidates.
And I think what you saw in New Hampshire was a legitimate...
I guess you would say representation of where the voters are at right now.
Who were the Democrats pushing more than anybody?
Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren.
They're the least popular.
If Gabbard was still on the stage, she'd be up there with Sanders.
If they let Yang on the stage, he'd probably be more popular than Biden.
Maybe even Warren. Now, apparently Yang dropped out.
Again, it's the theory that if a tree falls in the forest, does anybody hear it?
Yang dropped out, nobody even noticed.
And that was more because the Democrats shoved him aside.
But I think if Yang was smart, he would actually run third party.
Quite frankly, because he didn't really fit into the real Democrat whole thing anyway.
He kind of just tried to do his own thing.
But he dropped out.
But my point is that it's incredible how irrelevant the Democrats have become without even realizing it.
And the only relevance the Democrats have really is how are they going to attack Trump or who can beat Trump.
So it's really all about Trump, even on the Democrat side.
That's why they have no identity.
That's why they have no clarity.
That's why they're so confused. And political minds are wondering why Joe Biden is still in the race.
I mean, I would go a couple different ways with this.
I mean, he's obviously being told to stay in the race, folks.
He doesn't want to be in there. I think there's enough evidence to prove that.
I mean, the guy's literally hitting on 12-year-old girls.
I mean, he's literally trying to pick up chicks at campaign events.
He's literally insulting people.
He's literally telling people not to vote for him.
You think this guy wants to be up there?
No! He's being told to do this, or he has no choice because if he drops out, maybe that opens up the window of opportunity for all the Ukraine and China and all these other crimes that he was involved with in the Obama years to be investigated without the heat of, Trump's investigating a political opponent.
But it really is incredible how irrelevant the Democrat nomination process has become other than just a weird circus act of how are they going to get Trump out of office.
And so that's basically where we're at.
So, while I was feeling guilty for just kind of deciding I'm just not going to do the whole thing, New Hampshire primary stuff tonight.
It also gave me a realization of, wow, it really is irrelevant.
It really is.
The Democrats have so exposed themselves.
And so now, basically, the only reason why Bernie Sanders is leading is because you have enough commies that are going out and voting every day So they vote Sanders.
The Democrats don't even want Sanders.
Sanders will probably lay down again.
How many heart attacks has Sanders had now?
Remember, he was just hospitalized.
Oh, but yeah, remember, they really cared about being unfit for president.
And if you look at the Mueller investigation, it was a scam because it was illegally set up.
It was set up based on false documentation and false documents.
You look at what happened, how many people were hurt, their lives were destroyed, and nothing happened with all the people that did it and launched a scam.
Where's Comey? Where's Comey?
What's happening to McCabe?
What's happening to Lisa and Peter Strzok and Lisa Page?
What's happening with them? It was a whole set-up.
It was a disgrace for our country and everyone knows it too.
Everyone, including NBC, which gives a lot of fake news.
The fact is that Roger Stone was treated horribly and so were many other people.
Their lives were destroyed.
And it turns out, you look at the FISA warrants and what just happened with FISA, where they found out it was fixed, that it was a dirty, rotten deal.
So when you look at that and you see what happened to Roger Stone, but think of it, a man leaks classified information, highly classified.
They give him two months.
Roger Stone for doing, nobody even knows what he did.
In fact, they said he intimidated somebody.
That person said he had no idea he was going to jail for that.
That person didn't want to press charges.
They put him in for nine years.
It's a disgrace. And frankly, they ought to apologize to a lot of the people whose lives they've ruined.
All right, next question. So again, it's nice to see the president knows, like it's nice to see the fireman knows your house is on fire.
And hey, but, you know, the house is on fire.
Are you going to put it out or not? Alright, short segment here before Jesse Lee Peterson joins me.
And, you know, I was just thinking about it in the break, because there's news I'm not even going to get to today.
But I'm thinking about, you know, Virginia trying to confiscate the guns from law-abiding citizens.
I'm thinking about all the crimes against Donald Trump, against Trump supporters, against citizens of this country by the corrupt establishment.
And it just kind of hit me like a ton of bricks.
There's going to be some breaking point in this country where Americans finally just decide that they're done.
And I don't know what that's going to look like as far as what action will be taken.
But I know this. Whenever that action is taken and whenever America has reached that breaking point, it's going to be like the damn breaking.
Man, I mean, it's...
Because at that point, once the water gets rushing out the dam, at some point, you don't even have a choice.
You're going down with the rest of the water.
You can't even stop the momentum at that point.
And I just feel like, man, if the Democrats keep pushing this stuff, people are just going to reach a point of fed-upness.
And, uh, there's just, there's gonna be no return, man.
There's gonna be no return.
Alright. Let me do a news blitz here before Jesse Lee Peterson, uh, joins us.
Boy, the irony here.
I was thinking about it, uh, I was thinking about how it's about time for me to go back to Austin City Council, give him a piece of my mind.
This is stories at infowars.com from a Don Salazar who may have been the, uh, Push in the direction I needed to make that happen.
George P. Bush blasts Austin homeless policy after vehicle break-in.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, you can go back.
I mean, we don't even have the time, but it's like...
I just value putting more information out there than sitting here and proving how we're right.
But I remember freaking out when all of this started happening...
Specifically with the new homeless ordinance and telling the riders and doing reports and going out on the scene myself, being like, this is about to be the next big national story.
Austin is going to turn into Los Angeles.
And, I mean, we're pretty much there.
So now Texas Land Commissioner George P. Bush called out Austin, Texas homeless policies after he's the victim of a crime near a homeless camp this week.
It's time to stop running and it's time to stand your ground because you're not going to have any victories from running.
Eventually you're just going to end up running in circles and every place you went is going to turn into the place you left.
And I do think too, Jesse, that it's going to reach a point here, and I'm not, I mean, believe me, I'm not advocating for any violence against homeless people, but what I'm saying is, it's going to reach a point, such a fever pitch, I mean, I know, I mean, women in Austin won't go downtown anymore, for obvious reasons.
And it's a safe bet not to, quite frankly.
But it's going to reach a point where, I mean, if a woman is downtown or what have you, maybe even a man, And with all the violence that's been happening here and the car break-ins, stabbings, deaths, eventually it's going to reach a point where, I mean, a homeless guy approaches you for money or whatever and you're just already on edge.
It's night out. You're alone.
The woman whips out the pepper spray or worse, a taser, maybe even a gun, shoots the homeless person, and then it's just going to be a downward spiral effect.
And really, I would say, in the moment, maybe there's no one to blame.
It's the people that are putting us in this position that are to blame.
A citizen shouldn't be afraid to walk down the street alone at night in a fine city like Austin, Texas.
Well, and I'm just worried too, and I mentioned this briefly in this segment before.
I mean, there's all kinds of different mechanisms for this.
I'm not just saying that they rig votes, but that is a mechanism of the Democrats.
But I'm saying, I'm just afraid that it's reached such a point where It's almost insurmountable to win against these people politically because of all the propaganda they've injected into society, the control they have over people's votes, and it's going to reach a point where, and I was saying this before, where it's just going to be a breaking point.
And when people feel like they don't have the power politically to do the right thing and to take power back, they're going to take other means.
And this is a perfect example, Jesse.
I mean, they've had...
I led part of the outrage.
The whole crowd was behind me.
They have town halls in Austin to hear from the people to address the homelessness issue.
And everyone's like, change the law.
Get them off the streets. Get them out of downtown.
And they just do it anyway.
They just had the big event in Virginia.
50,000 people outside of the Capitol in Richmond.
Guess what? They just passed the gun confiscation bill anyway.
So, I mean, at some point, there's going to be a breaking point where Americans feel like If we take political action and still don't get victory, they're going to use other means.
That's why I'm hoping that we can change this before that happens.
I absolutely agree.
I've seen and heard of many cases in Los Angeles where the homeless people are robbing people of automobiles in the daylight.
They are not waiting tonight.
They go and they see something in your car that you left behind and they'll break the windows open and get it with cameras on them and everything.
And the people are becoming very frustrated about that.
And the homeless people know that they're not going to jail.
In California, you can steal up to almost $1,000 worth of merchandise and not go to jail.
And the people are becoming very, very frustrated about that.
And you're right. If we continue down this road, and God forbid, it's not what I want, we're going to see the citizens fighting back, and we're going to see violence in the street.
But if the people speak up, it won't have to happen, Owen.
And that's the thing too, people speaking up and just government taking common sense action.
I mean, there's common sense solutions to this stuff.
I mean, I'm just thinking off the top of my head, but like here in Austin, Texas, one of the big problems, most people don't realize it, but one of the biggest problems we have is homeless people littering.
And I'm sure they do this in LA too, many different ways, but they'll go into the dumpsters, they'll take out 10 bags of trash, go through them, and then just leave the trash everywhere.
Well, start writing them tickets for littering.
And then once they've got 20 tickets for littering and this fine, then you deal with them in some other way.
I mean, but they're not doing anything.
So like you said, Jesse, they just feel like they can do whatever they want.
There's no punishment. And so it just spirals out of control.
More with Jesse Lee Peterson.
I'm going to play a clip for you, Jesse, on the other side.
We're back in the InfoWars War Room.
Jesse Lee Peterson is my guest.
Jesse, I want to play this video for you to get your response to this.
This is just absolute madness, what we're about to see here.
But it kind of, I think, just shows the mental state of a liberal right now looking for racism around every corner.
It's gone from looking for racism around every corner to Actually, them becoming racist.
Here's this clip. I think this is from a college hall or something.
Honestly, I'm not sure, guys.
In fact, if you guys can find out where this is, I want to be accurate here, but it appears to be in a college room or some sort of office space where this black lady is upset that white people are in her presence.
I'm not kidding you. Here's the clip.
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Public service announcement.
Excuse me. If y'all didn't know, this is the MSC. And frankly, there's just too many white people in here.
And this is a space for people of color.
So just be really cognizant of the space that you're taking up because it does make some of us POCs uncomfortable when we see too many white people in here.
It's only been open for four days.
And frankly, there's the whole university for a lot of y'all to be at.
That's literally, I mean, like, Jesse, can you imagine if I walked into, like, a UT hall and I said, excuse me, as a white man, I see way too many black people here.
I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
I'm a little upset as a white person to see black people in this hall.
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There's plenty of room for you people somewhere else.
you know, I'd have be attacked all day long, but like, how does this girl not realize how she's being racist? But honestly, you know, Jesse, honestly, I bet this girl isn't even a racist, quite frankly. She's just so brainwashed and demented by the leftist ideology. That was University of Virginia. The crew just found it. Thank you guys. And the multicultural student center. Well, so white people aren't multicultural. I mean, and then she refers to herself.
Oh, God. You know, it's going to get worse if white people don't start speaking up.
I have been saying for the last 30 years to white folks, y'all need to speak up.
Because if you don't speak up, you're going to be destroyed.
They will destroy you because white folks are showing fear rather than courage.
White Americans... Have the right to speak up for themselves, to say, no, I'm not your problem.
No to these people, because if you don't do it, they only get worse.
And so this girl, which is evil, by the way, this is evil to do this, she cannot help herself because she has seen what has happened over the years.
And that white people will not defend themselves.
The older generation in the last 70 years have refused to stand up.
The white men are not standing up.
They are shutting down.
And when they shut down, they are giving their enemies permission to destroy them.
And my concern is, if white people don't start Speaking up, it's gonna get worse.
I was in a conversation with a black person and a white person over the weekend, and the black person did not like it that the white person was disagreeing.
And I said to them, this person have a right to disagree.
I don't care what the discussion is.
We're all at the same location, having the same conversation.
They have a right to disagree.
And I can sense that the white person became afraid when the black person said, you should not be a part of this.
And as long as white people have the fear, you're going to see situations like this girl.
White Americans are under attack like 90 going nose.
As they say in Alabama, 90 going nose.
They are under attack.
They are hated for no reason.
They are blamed for slavery.
They have nothing to do with slavery.
They are blamed for the Jim Crow laws.
They have nothing to do with Jim Crow laws.
But white Americans are afraid of one word, and that word is racism.
They have put their property before what is right.
And when you love things over what is right, your enemies will destroy you.
And that's what's happening to white people right now.
If white people don't start speaking up, Owen, we're going to have South Africa.
Miami Africa will be in America, where white people will become enslaved by the people of color, black people especially.
They're going to take your land They're going to take your businesses.
They're going to take everything you have.
And if you speak up, they will destroy you.
They'll break into your home.
They'll kill your family.
Police officers will not be able to do anything about it.
The worst thing, the worst thing you can have in life is fear.
And white people have clearly demonstrated that they have fear.
And it's not good for society.
One other quick point.
White Americans founded this country and they built this country.
This is the greatest country in the world.
Even the blacks who are born here and the foreigners who are coming in, they are coming in and accusing white people and instead of showing appreciation, they are falsely accusing white Americans.
When I become president, Once the Great White Hope is done, I'm getting rid of all the foreigners and I'm getting rid of all the blacks who were born here and they're not happy to be here.
You gotta go. This is why the left hates Jesse Lee Peterson because he left their plantation a long time ago and he hasn't put his middle finger down since he did it.
So apparently we've actually located this girl's social media account.
Maybe we'll reach out and see if she wants to come on.
Here's the thing that I don't understand, Jesse.
You know, I I really don't understand.
Obviously, there were white people in that room.
Not one of them wanted to stand up for themselves.
I mean, really? That's my point.
And that's what I'm saying. It's a weird deal to not even have...
Because I've figured it out where it's not like...
I figured it out a while ago how to deal with these people.
You call them racists because they're the ones behaving like racists.
So people will come up to me on the street all the time when I'm out in the field and they'll make some comment like, oh, you're white so you can't comment on that or, oh, you're white, you don't understand this or whatever.
And I'm saying, oh, what did you just say?
And they repeat it.
I said, that's racist.
And they're like, what?
I was like, no, you just judged me for my skin color.
That's literally the definition of racism.
And then they always walk away. Because they realize that they just had the race card legitimately played against them.
And there's nothing they can do about it.
So it really is shocking, though.
I mean, I'm not going to sit here and be like, if I was in that room.
But if I was in that room, I would have stood up and said, okay, racist.
Bye! I'm gonna file an official report that a racist just told me to leave a public commons because of my skin color.
And I just, again, it's like, it's this weird thing.
It is fear, but it's also just like...
On a deeper level than just the fear, I feel like standing up for yourself has become demonized.
Even standing up for yourself is like toxic masculinity or something.
Jesse Lee Peterson is with me and wants to respond to what I was saying in the last segment.
How beyond just the issue of race relations or whatever, white people not standing up for themselves, I think there's another layer that goes beyond that where just in general people are afraid to stand up for themselves.
And quite frankly, Jesse, my whole life I've pretty much gotten in trouble for relentlessly standing my ground.
And that tends to offend people.
Some people... Actually, you get a lot of respect for it.
Other people look down on you for it.
I've just naturally, instinctively always felt you stand up for yourself.
But it seems that that, just the notion of standing up for yourself, has been turned into being considered toxic or bullying or aggressive or something like that.
You're right about that. You know, one quick thing, I was thinking about that black girl you just showed when she was saying that white people needed to leave the room or whatever.
I just can't imagine that woman stood up and said that and no one said anything.
Had I been there, I would have told her how the cow ate the cabbage.
That was insane that no one spoke up, man.
And in America, though, if you really, really notice, the people who cannot speak up, well, they can if they would, but The rest are against them, are the straight, white, conservative, Christian men of power.
Christian white men and women, white women, are not allowed to speak up.
But you need to speak up anyway.
Everybody else can say and do whatever they want to the white people.
They can say whatever they want to about them, whether it's true or not.
But if white people were to say the same thing about the other races, All of a sudden they'll call white supremacists or they'll call racists.
You gotta start speaking up anyway.
I used to be a Democrat, but God forgave me when he changed my heart for being a Democrat and I'm a conservative.
And I'm hated in my community for being a conservative, even in members of my own blood family.
But I don't care.
I can care less about that.
I know not to hate them because they can't see, but I speak up anyway.
I love what's right.
I love my country. I am an American.
I have the First Amendment and the Second Amendment, even though they're trying to take it away.
And what people think about me doesn't matter.
It's what I think about them.
And I know that they can't help it, and I will not turn over my life to anyone.
I'm going to speak up.
I'm going to stand up for my country.
Call me whatever you want.
But I'm standing up for my country.
I'm standing up for the family.
I'm standing up for what is right.
And I'm not going to let the children of the lie take my freedom away and destroy my country, destroy my family.
But see, but that is the key thing here that really is mind-blowing to me, Jesse, is that this young lady here, this college student, who by the way I just reached out to to see if she wants to come on the show, she's been so brainwashed and indoctrinated, and I don't want to insult her intelligence, I don't know enough about her, but I mean...
But that's what I'm saying, is if she can't realize how she's being racist, if she doesn't have enough self-awareness in that moment to look in the mirror and realize, no, what you're doing is actually racist and bigoted, I mean, it just shows you the power of the propaganda that has been ingrained into these people so much where it just becomes common practice for them to think that being racist against white people is a good thing, and that in fact it's impossible.
In fact, you can't even be racist against white people is what they tell you.
She has been made to believe that she's better than white people.
What you don't know, well, you probably know it.
Not all, not all, not all, not all.
But most black people hate white folks.
They literally hate them for no reason except the brainwashing generation after generation after generation.
And so these type of people like that woman, they literally believe that they're superior to white people and that they can do whatever they want to them and they don't expect white people to stand up.
You better not stand up or they'll get robbed.
But this black woman is a typical black female today.
In the black community, black families, black women hate black men.
And they speak about them and treat them in the same way that you saw this woman talking and thinking about white people.
Because the average black man today have been beat down in his home by his mother, his father been too weak to protect him.
And he just doesn't have the mindset of a man.
He's not logical.
He's illogical and emotional.
So he doesn't know what to do.
And so the black women hate their weaknesses.
And they are destroying the black men.
They're destroying their babies.
They're destroying their children, the unborn children.
Because black men are not standing up and saying no to this.
The famous saying from Martin Luther King, you know, I want my kids to grow up in a nation where people aren't judged by the color of their skin.
You don't even see skin color.
We're so far from that.
It's just, it's really sad.
And, you know, there's this whole debate going on.
I don't know if you've seen the video where Mike Bloomberg, video services of him talking about stopping and frisking and crime rates in New York City.
Well, look. If pointing out facts is racist, then really there is no racism left, and we're just reaching for reasons to find racism around every corner because that's just desperate.
I want to get your take on a couple things, Jesse, before we let you go here.
There is some news coming out of California I'd want to hear your take on, but I want to go with this one first.
According to a survey, San Francisco is the healthiest city in America.
Now, I'm not sure who they surveyed or what the grounds here are, but the last time I was in San Francisco, I saw what looked like extremely unhealthy people, homeless people everywhere, literally walking around in clothes covered in their own feces.
So, for that to be the healthiest city in America, if you buy this...
You know how the people wearing those mask things to prevent catching the coronavirus situation?
You better wear that now when you go to San Francisco because...
I mean, it's so nasty and destroyed that even when you walk down the street, the last time I was there, when you walk down the street, you have to look down to make sure you don't step in bathroom stuff that the people just put there.
It affected most of it, except for the government.
It affected everyone now.
And then if you walk outside and you catch the homeless use the bathroom in front of your house, you tell them to run off, you try to run them off, they'll curse you out.
It's like, seriously, it'll reach a point where a homeless guy will come crap on your doorstep and he'll, like, walk outside and be like, what the heck?
And a lot of people are afraid to approach the homeless people now, especially the women, because they are afraid that they will be attacked by the homeless people.
Thank you. Alright, I've kind of learned something from my near decade now.
I can't believe it. Live on air as a professional broadcaster.
We're in the third season of the War Room here.
Been at Infowars for over four years.
But it's a risk where if I say something on air that I want to do, the odds are that it gets done are higher.
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They were like, no.
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I've always wanted to be a fashion model catwalk commentator.
I mean, that's really the top...
Of the heat for live broadcasting.
You know what I'm saying? So, that's really where I want to be.
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They don't even do that anymore.
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What the hell is that? Nobody wears that.
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You're like, what the hell? Nobody wears this crap.
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Okay. I have gotten through all the clips that I want to.
And so let me just finish off with the rest of this news I haven't gotten to today.
Uh-oh, John Brennan and Nancy Pelosi.
Here we go. John Brennan says, by the way, this guy's a total crook, belongs in jail in my opinion.
It is deeply heartening to see the Department of Justice public servants not cower in the face of bullying by Donald Trump.
Won't even capitalize his name.
Let me fix that for you.
I used to be an editor. Even I did editing before it was dominated by digital.
In case you're wondering, this is how you properly, if you're correcting bad punctuation or grammar or something, if you need something capitalized, three lines under the letter.
A little lesson for you here.
I'm an old editor.
I'm an old editor on air here.
The old editor is just fixing John Brennan's tweets.
Except for Senator Romney, Republicans in Congress should be shamed.
Here, let me just fix this for him, too.
He seems to be drunk. Ashamed.
We're going to go with the ashamed there.
And voted out of office because of their cowardice and support for Trump's corruption.
Again, you're missing the capital T here, John.
So there you go.
This is another sign to me.
Of the deep state corrupt establishment being totally afraid right now.
They're the bullies.
They're the illegal actors.
They know it. They know America now knows it.
And they're in trouble.
You had Hillary Clinton's tweet yesterday.
Now you have Nancy Pelosi calling for an investigation into Roger Stone's sentencing recommendation.
That doesn't even make sense.
Ladies and gentlemen, that doesn't even make sense.
She says, by tweet, by tweet.
Real Donald Trump engaged in political interference in the sentencing of Roger Stone.
It is outrageous that...
Here's another one.
You do a little arrow like this when you need to insert a word.
They keep forgetting to put the Department of Justice.
And actually, in writing, you're supposed to always fully spell out the acronym before you use the acronym.
It's funny, these are basic editing things that the average person, journalist, doesn't even go through anymore.
And this is a weird pet peeve of mine because I read stories all day.
They'll write a story and they'll never even tell you what city it's in.
And you're like, what?
What? You're always supposed to...
So kids out there, we have a very large audience that are young people.
Let me give you a little journalistic advice here because I'm just seeing the lack of journalistic integrity.
You always use the full name of an individual the first time they're mentioned in a story.
Always use the full name.
After that, you can just go with the first or last name.
You always spell out the entire thing.
You give the entire thing before you go with the acronym in a story.
Every time. And always...
Especially if the location of said story is important, you always cite where the story is happening.
These things are lost upon the average journalist today, which aren't even young people.
They're older people. It is outrageous that the Department of Justice has deeply damaged the rule of law by withdrawing its recommendation.
Stepping down of prosecutors should be commended.
Oh! And actions of DOJ should be investigated.
They didn't even take action, you dimwit!
I mean, what?
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The actions at the Department of Justice should be investigated.
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