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owen shroyer
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going through all my stacks of news here.
As we begin the InfoWars War Room at InfoWars.com and Band.Video brought to you by InfoWarsStore.com and of course the big story we're all talking about today.
the drone strike and the killing of the top Iranian general.
So, Lamini and what Iran is going to be doing in response or what they're threatening, how the United States is responding, what Trump is saying, what Democrats are saying, what Republicans are saying, what you are saying.
We're going to have Steve Pachenik on for an hour at 4 o'clock, maybe longer if he wants to stick around.
But we have callers that have been holding on The line during the Alex Jones show.
We have the same phone line. So if you want to call in, we're going to have open lines, line to line here on this Friday.
877-789-2539.
877-789-2539.
Now, I'm going to just go over all the different angles here as we're taking our calls in the next segment.
But since we've had people holding for a long time, Let's just take a call right now.
Let's go to Baldy in New York.
unidentified
Go ahead, Baldy. I really appreciate you taking my call.
baldy in new york
It's always good to speak with you, Road Warrior Owen.
You know, the work that you do is fearless.
And I originally called in because I wanted to talk about the ongoing PSYOP that Howard Stern has been running and how it relates to Ayatollah Obama's attack on America.
But I just have to mention now, because the last caller Talked about the Ebola vaccine.
I'm coming to you from behind enemy lines in the totalitarian state of New York State where they have mandated all school children be forcibly vaccinated in order to get a public or even private education.
And what I'm predicting, and this relates to the UN hiring gun confiscation troops, Is that after a false flag, they're going to mandate for all of New York residents that they get a vaccine.
And that is going to exacerbate whatever the false flag is.
More than likely, it will be an Ebola outbreak.
owen shroyer
Well, if you go by...
The clues, one clue you always look for is what vaccine are they about to mass produce?
What vaccine are they trying to sell?
And so the Ebola vaccine seems to be that.
You've seen the big outbreaks in Africa.
You've seen how the Congolese and other migrants from Africa are landing in Mexico and other countries in Central America trying to make their way north.
So yeah, this is all going on right now.
baldy in new york
It's similar to the measles outbreak.
They let in illegal aliens without crossing through Ellis Island or any screening, and they come in with measles, and there's a measles outbreak.
And so now they say, well, everyone has to get the measles vaccine because of the problem they created.
owen shroyer
And by the way, it's hardly a measles outbreak, and they make this big thing about it.
It's not deadly.
I mean, it can be, but it's very rarely, and it's being brought in by illegal immigration.
And so that's the false flag is to sit here and blame people that haven't been vaccinated for a measles outbreak or for whatever outbreak when no, it's the open borders.
baldy in new york
And I agree with you.
I think Alex should join the baldies.
It's about time. He gets off the clippers.
owen shroyer
Well, I'll tell you, you know, Steve Pachinic had the old bald head today.
And Alex has teased going with the old chrome dome.
baldy in new york
Make him look even more powerful than he already is.
unidentified
Shave my head now, and I shall be more powerful than you could ever imagine.
baldy in new york
If I have time, I would like to talk about the Howard Stern PSYOP, because...
owen shroyer
All right, well, unfortunately, we just ended this segment.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's Friday, January 3rd, 2020.
This is the InfoWars War Room.
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Brought to you by InfoWarsStore.com.
I'm your host Owen Schroyer.
We're going to be taking your calls on this Friday.
End to end.
We're going to be joined by Steve Pachinik at 4 for the hour.
We're going to be joined by Rob Dew.
And if we're lucky, Savannah Hernandez as well.
But here's what I can promise you.
You're going to hear things on this broadcast about...
The drone strike of the top Iranian general Soleimani and that developing situation that you have not heard anywhere else.
And I've been tuning in, watching, and listening to everybody else so I can assure you that.
And there's some other things I'm going to report on today that are getting lost in the haze of it all.
And if I'm... If I'm lucky enough to have some time, I'm going to put out a more important message that I briefly was able to do right before I went live here on Twitter.
How you can be smarter and gain more experience in 2020.
And it really became clear to me how I could communicate this using examples today, something I've been struggling to put into words and explain for years.
I was able to today, so maybe I'll have time for that.
But before we get to your calls, let me just kind of run down what we've got here, what we're dealing with, what we're talking about, what we're looking at.
So... There has obviously been tension between the United States and Iran for a long time.
There's obviously been intervention with the United States in that region for a long time.
There's obviously been a power struggle.
Now, we've seen what you could call acts of war in this region.
But of course, since the whole war on terror was always such a convoluted mess and false flag to begin with, it's like waiting for the dust to settle so you can see the bottom of the pond or the lake or whatever, except it's never settling, you see? And so we can't ever really see it, and we just have to go off what we can see.
Well, what do we see?
A president of the United States...
That is, acting as a strong man, a strong leader, not going to take anything from Iran, and yes, rattling sabers with Iran.
Now, I've got to say, between President Trump's tweet, was it yesterday or the night before, with all caps, basically saying, don't mess with the United States, or it'll be the worst thing Military offensive you could ever imagine against you to Iran.
And then the Iranian president responding on Twitter saying this war crime is going to be met with vengeance.
Is this real life?
Is this presidential Twitter politics?
Is this really how it's going now?
It's hard for me to believe that.
It's hard for me to believe that that's geopolitics and diplomacy in 2020.
Part of me wants to think that it's not.
Part of me wants to think that they're talking behind the scenes.
Part of me wants to think that they're actually communicating, not just putting out tweets.
But again, we can only go off what we know.
But that's very low IQ stuff to me.
Twitter diplomacy? Will this lead to a larger escalation?
Well, we were afraid of that in Syria.
There were multiple strikes in Syria that the president approved.
Well, we haven't seen that larger escalation.
We've seen Russia move into that region, as they should, and the Syrian army start to take back command.
That has led to a larger conflict with Turkey, but it is not the larger escalation of war.
And it is giving Syria more of an opportunity to be a sovereign nation.
Now, as it's been pointed out, the oddity of liberal media and Democrats and leftists in this country more upset over the killing of this Iranian general than Americans in Benghazi really tells you a large story, doesn't it? And the people will always say, well, why do you have to bring up Benghazi?
Because I'm just measuring things here.
The outrage in the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Democrat Party over the killing of Soleimani was more than we ever saw after the Americans were killed in Benghazi after the Hillary Clinton stand-down.
unidentified
That's just a fact.
owen shroyer
Take that how you want.
unidentified
That's a fact. What's up with that?
owen shroyer
And you also have these same people now worried that this is going to become a larger conflict with Iran and that they're even worried that Iran is going to attack us here on our homeland.
Well, if that's true, maybe you might finally be for border security.
Because how do you think that's going to happen?
You think they're going to fly a jet or get a missile over our homeland here?
No. They're going to have sleeper cells infiltrate from the wide open borders.
And we'd all hate to see that happen, I guess, except the Democrats who want the open borders.
We know that this entire thing has been a deep state coup from the beginning, with Obama being involved with this general and Kerry being involved with this general, him doing work with the United States military even in the Middle East.
And then what happened at the embassy the other day?
Now, we're going to have Steve Pachenik on.
He's going to really get into the weeds with that more when he joins us at 4.
But how about the Democrats complaining about congressional approval?
Well, have they forgotten the Obama administration when there was no congressional approval for many of the drone strikes and other such activities, including the hundreds of billions to Iran?
So the whole thing is obviously very complex and we cannot take it at face value.
But this is what we're dealing with.
You hate to see...
You're gonna see 3,500 more troops, more US troops sent to the Middle East.
You hate to see that.
You hate to see the saber-rattling happening between Trump and Iran.
You hate to see Democrats and liberals in America standing with an Iranian general who is listed as a terrorist, who is listed by the Obama Department of Defense as killing hundreds of American soldiers.
The Democrats stand with him, not the Benghazi four, those that died after a stand-down.
But... There's other little interesting tidbits, and I'm looking forward to having Pachenik comment on these.
Lavrov, the Russian minister, said that the assassination of Soleimani was a violation of international law, which is odd.
Steve Pachenik says that this wouldn't have happened without Russia's approval, so we'll get his take on that.
Russia state media blames impeachment for Trump's Iran strike, saying it's a distraction from all the impeachment stuff that's going on, which, by the way, was happening on the Hill today.
Mitch McConnell giving statements, Pelosi giving statements, Schumer giving statements.
It's truly quite amazing how that's going on, so that's definitely relevant with all of this.
The U.S. Senate also just advanced a bill saying that it's time to call Russia a sponsor of terrorism.
So again, there's this whole thing about terrorism and the conflict in the Middle East very convoluted.
But how about this?
Trump eliminates some of the world's top terrorists in just a few months from the Daily Caller.
Hasma bin Laden, Abu al-Baghdadi, Abu Hassan al-Muhajahir, Qasem Soleimani, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis.
All top terrorists that have been eliminated in the Trump administration.
Now again, that's just dealing with what we know.
But there's another anomaly afoot.
There's another anomaly afoot that I'm not seeing anyone else point out.
And it could be a nothing burger. But it's not a nothing burger in the fact that the average person now is so lacking skills of observance and comprehension that you can literally put two pictures next to them that are totally different and they think it's the same thing.
It's actually shocking.
I'll explain that more on the other side and take your calls.
Don't go anywhere. It's a complex set of affairs we're dealing with right now.
It's a... Long-term solution we need for a long-term problem we've been trying to address here at Infowars for a long time.
And I understand why people are seeing this and having brash reactions.
But we need to be lucky.
We need to remember how lucky we are That we're here in America not having to worry about getting bombed like much of the world has had to worry about.
And so, while this escalation is happening, most of America will rest softly and easy with the comfort of knowing that they do live in the greatest country on Earth.
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Now... I'm going to do this right now because I kind of want to put it into people's heads before I really dedicate to taking calls for the rest of this hour.
And then Steve Pechenna comes on.
Guys, pull up my Twitter account, please.
Now, I want to be clear about something.
I am not trying to create a conspiracy theory.
All I'm doing is being observant, paying attention to detail...
And reporting on what's in front of me, not what's in my head, which is my biggest advice to anybody who gets this message.
If you want to be smarter in 2020, be more observant, pay closer attention to detail.
I cannot emphasize that enough.
Pay closer attention to detail.
And address what's in front of you, not what's in your head.
And I briefly explain what I'm talking about in a Twitter video.
But let me just put this in your head as we move forward taking your calls on the strike that just happened to General, the top Iranian General Soleimani.
They claim that his body was ID'd by the ring on his hand.
Now, again, I'm not creating a conspiracy here.
Do not put words in my mouth.
But they claim they ID'd the body With a ring that was on his hand.
Now, again, if you look at this picture in the New York Post, and it just stuns me that I have to do this, but I do, and this is why I'm trying to help you and give you advice.
Please, ladies and gentlemen, be more observant, and I cannot emphasize this enough.
Pay attention to detail.
The ring in that photo that they claim is the severed hand of Soleimani is not the ring he's wearing in that picture or any other picture I've ever seen of him.
Okay? Now, again, do not put words in my mouth.
I'm not creating some kind of conspiracy.
I'm simply paying attention to detail and addressing what's in front of me.
It's a different ring.
And here's what's amazing about it.
And this is why I'm so astounded at...
Because I don't want to sound insulting here, folks, but how dumb people are.
That actually see that picture and say, what are you talking about?
It's the same ring. Or they'll put up another picture of a different ring and say, see, this is the ring, when it's clearly not.
I shouldn't have to sit here and explain to you how the encasing around the stone is different.
How the band on the ring has a different texture and pattern.
How in one of the rings the stone...
One protrudes from the edges of the ring, and then the other one, the ring totally engulfs the stone.
Now, again, it could be the same stone.
He's just switching rings every day.
I've never heard of anyone that does that.
Maybe that's the case. Maybe it's not.
This guy wears dozens of similar rings.
In fact, most of these Iranian leaders have rings like this.
So... Again, all I'm saying is they claim they identified him with the ring, but it's a totally different ring than the ring he's wearing in the pictures that they show us.
So the relevance of that or what that means, you can decide.
I'm simply pointing it out.
Then people submit the picture that I guess, I don't know who's claiming, but the drone strike did happen to what appeared to be a car.
I mean, tough to recognize after the obvious damage from the drone strike, but it is on pavement.
And so people send me the pictures of the alleged, you know, corpse of Soleimani just totally, you know, ravaged, and it's on pavement saying, see, how can you even recognize a ring on a hand?
Look at this scene here from the pavement.
Well, okay, fine.
Again, be observant, pay closer attention to detail.
The ring on the severed hand is in grass, right?
Not on pavement.
So why are you showing me a picture of a guy in pavement when the ring, said ring, in said picture is from grass?
So again, I'm not putting a conspiracy theory out there.
I'm simply paying attention to detail and addressing what's in front of me, not what's in my head.
And so I suggest everybody start to do that moving forward because it's a lost art in this country.
I can't even believe how amazing it is.
But it's true. You can show someone two pictures of two different rings and they say, it's the same ring.
unidentified
What?
owen shroyer
But doesn't that really encapsulate everything we're dealing with right now?
Where the Democrats come out and denounce the killing of this top general, but they never complained about what happened in Benghazi?
When the Obama administration, Department of Justice, came out and filed a report that this general was responsible for killing hundreds of United States soldiers, and now they denounce the killing of him?
They complain about not having congressional approval when Obama did many things without congressional approval, many worse things?
So I'm just addressing what's in front of me, folks.
Thank you.
The most honest thing I can say is it'll probably take 24, 48 hours or longer to really weigh this and know what's going on here.
But I'm telling you everything I can report on, everything I know, and we're going to take your calls on the other side of this break to get your take on it all.
Don't go anywhere. All right, Rob Dew.
Has an important message for the audience.
And then we're going to go to your phone calls.
We're going to go to Mosh in Georgia.
We're going to go to Melinda.
And we're going to go to Levi and others.
But first, Rob, you come in here.
You found something that you need the audience to hear right now.
rob dew
Well, it's a couple things, but this I think is most important.
It's a warning to parents out there who have dreams for their kids to be stars and rock stars, movie stars, just child stars in general.
owen shroyer
Hollywood dreams.
rob dew
Hollywood dreams.
Because, you know, you're inundated with it every day all over the media.
But I read this story today.
It just broke on Tiffany Fitzhenry's website.
And I'll read the title and you can go read it.
But I just want to cover one part of this because it's a long article.
It's 24 pages long.
World exclusive mother of sexually abused boy Bander breaks her silence, implicates Disney, CAA, Hollywood Records, LAPD, DA, and industry elite and pedophile ring and cover up.
That's a quite a mouthful of a headline.
How this story starts, I think, is the most important...
One of the most important things.
Because they have these all over the country.
And this is what you need to look out for.
It all began when Tammy and Ricky...
And this boy was on Disney Channel shows and boy bands and stuff.
Attended a talent expo in Dallas, Texas, at which Ricky was scattered by over a dozen Hollywood managers.
And subsequently signed with Joby Hart.
At Joby's urging, Ricky and Tammy moved to L.A., arriving in Hollywood August 2011 with a dream, the talent to achieve it, and $20,000 of bank-borrowed money.
And the grooming of both 12-year-old Ricky and his mother Tammy started right away.
And you could go and read about the allegations and the lawsuits and the emails that are in this.
But this is where it all starts.
They have these talent expos all over the country.
Do you want to be a star?
Do you want to be a model? It's our talent search.
And these are literally the grooming grounds, the fertile grounds where they find new unsuspecting victims and wish to pull into their web.
owen shroyer
And, you know, there's also, you got to factor in the fact that there's some parents, some desperate parents out there that think, oh, I can get rich off my child here.
rob dew
My kid's going to be a star.
Yeah. I feel it. Honey, boo-boo.
Take advantage of them. That type of stuff.
And this, it's sad because To see that, you know, parents don't want to see their kids just have a, you know, like a regular life, start their own business, start a family.
They think there's this great world out there.
And when you read this story, it's not a great world for this mother and her son.
And also, this guy's brother, too, was also attacked and whatnot.
But it really, reading this sent chills up my spine.
I was completely disgusted by it because...
I hadn't even heard of some of these people.
Some of the people you heard, Chris Pratt's mentioned in this, a party he had apparently where kids were drinking.
That's what is stated in this article.
But it's getting kids drunk and sexually abusing them.
That is the gist of what goes on in these Hollywood circles.
And these were Disney-affiliated people.
We've seen plenty of people who worked at Disney get busted for child porn, pedophilia.
It happens. And it's all coming to a head, I think, this year.
I mean, I think this is really it.
There's the convicted pedophile Brian Peck with Leonardo DiCaprio.
owen shroyer
And, you know, I think to kind of—basically what it is is you have these young kids that, you know, when you reach a certain age, for a lot of people that's in high school or college, start to go out and party and experiment with drinking or drugs or whatever— Well, they're bringing these kids into that realm with adults at a very young age.
So instead of kind of experimenting with other kids that are your age, they're going to make the same stupid mistakes, kind of learn together, all while the parents are kind of there monitoring the situation a little bit.
I mean, everybody knows this goes on.
They're doing it with full-grown adults who are in it To bring the children into this situation and groom them to take advantage of them.
rob dew
Well, and the key that goes, listen, we're going to take the kids away on a songwriting field trip.
owen shroyer
But don't worry, you'll get plenty of money.
rob dew
We've got plenty of adults around.
owen shroyer
We'll be sending you money.
rob dew
And that's, you know, they give them just enough money to keep them in it, keep them excited, keep them on the road, keep them tired, keep the parents away.
So if you end up doing this and you put your kids in the system, don't leave them alone.
Don't leave them alone for a second because they will get groomed.
People should go read this article.
I retweeted it today at some point and it just broke today.
It's page after page.
owen shroyer
You're like, wow. Yeah, I actually reached out to the author of that, Tiffany Fitzhenry, and hopefully she will be coming on Infowars as a guest.
I don't know if she does media interviews, but...
rob dew
I've seen her on podcast. In fact, I think Roseanne Barr says she wants to start a podcast with her, so that should be interesting.
The other thing is I want to talk about silver, super silver whitening toothpaste because I hadn't tried it except for maybe the last week and a half.
And I told Alex, I said, man, this is the best toothpaste I've ever tried.
He's like, well, what are you doing just sitting in here telling me?
You got to get up there and tell people.
So here I am telling people...
Super Silver Whitening Toothpaste is by far the best toothpaste I've ever tried.
And I'm 45 years old.
And I've tried a lot of different toothpaste.
And it's fluoride free.
I think the big difference, the game changer in this is the Coral Calcium.
Because after I brush my teeth with this...
And my teeth are nothing to look at.
I drink a lot of coffee. They're not the best.
After I brush, they feel so clean.
And the toothpaste, I don't even like rinse out my mouth after I brush my teeth with this.
It feels so good. It feels like...
Good things are happening in my mouth.
Three to four times a day rather than just twice a day now.
Because I like the way it feels.
And usually, you know, you're like, hang on, brush my teeth here.
I will say this too. Since college, sometime around college, I stopped using fluoride toothpaste.
And because I've been woke for a while, Owen.
unidentified
So woke. I stopped using fluoride toothpaste.
rob dew
It was towards the end of college.
Since then, I've never had a new cavity.
I've had problems with existing cavities.
That I had. And it got filled in.
But I've never had a new cavity in my mouth since I've switched from fluoride toothpaste.
owen shroyer
Your teeth aren't falling out, which they claim if you don't do the fluoride toothpaste.
unidentified
Right, they tell you. You don't drink fluoride either.
owen shroyer
So how are you surviving without fluoride?
And I noticed... The neurotoxin.
rob dew
I noticed on the back of this, it doesn't have a warning.
If you swallow it, call poison control immediately, which it will say, everybody at home, grab your fluoride toothpaste and look there.
It's going to have a warning. If you swallow more than what's used for brushing, call poison control immediately.
owen shroyer
And by the way, it's 0.014%, I think, fluoride usually, or 0.1%.
I mean, so it's like tiny dosages, and it still says, if swallowed, contact poison control.
rob dew
Dr. Conant, who's with the Fluoride Action Network, said that the amount of fluoride that's in the toothpaste is the same amount that's in an 8-ounce glass of water.
owen shroyer
So you should call poison control every time you drink tap water.
rob dew
You certainly should.
And he's a biochemist.
owen shroyer
He's not playing around. I tell you, I... When I go to the gym, I drink the water out of a filtered water bottle.
Even when I'm at the gym, I'm not getting the fluoride water.
Even when I go out to restaurants, I try to order a mineral water or something to avoid the fluoride water.
My filter basically expired and the water bottle wasn't working anymore.
For three or four workouts in a row, I was drinking the fountain water.
No, I'm not even kidding. It upset my stomach.
It really upset my stomach.
I finally got another filtered water bottle to use now.
rob dew
Because your body's not used to the poison.
owen shroyer
And I guess that's what it was.
But I could tell, like, I would drink it and my stomach would kind of be like, ugh, I don't want this.
rob dew
We sell a shirt, there's poison in the tap water.
There's literally poison in your tap water.
I've seen the tanks where they pull this poison out of.
owen shroyer
Yeah, you went in with the hidden camera with the neurotoxin bags.
rob dew
Yeah, it's amazing. They put it in the water.
They dump it in the water. Nine gallons an hour.
It's disgusting. It's disgusting.
And they tell you it's for your teeth.
owen shroyer
Oh, man. Well, they lied.
And we've got the proof.
Try Super Silver fluoride-free toothpaste.
rob dew
It is really amazing.
The best toothpaste, hands down, that I've ever tried in my life.
And, I don't know, this one.
owen shroyer
I agree. Oh, no, don't take mine.
That's from my desk. Hey, you know, I've been dealing with some oral surgery, and I swear my mouth recovers quicker because of this toothpaste.
I swear that's why.
I'm ahead of recovery time every time.
I think it's because of this toothpaste.
We'll be right back. All right, we're going out to the phone lines now to get your take on the developing situation in Iran, in the Middle East, in that region.
Let's first go to Mosh in Georgia.
Go ahead, Mosh.
unidentified
Oh, and much love, brother.
Hey, I just wanted to say, with all due respect to Alex's previous, his last guest, Syrian girl, the situation is not a Syria-centric one.
You know, the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
It's just a means to an end, you know?
So yeah, although General Soleimani and the coup's forces did some work against ISIS in Syria, it doesn't make them nice guys.
owen shroyer
Well, and just to kind of add a little more color to that, And I don't know, I wasn't able to hear the entire interview with Syrian girl.
I don't know if she painted this as well, but I mean, let's not forget the CIA backed Osama bin Laden.
There were many times Saddam Hussein was ingratiated by the United States.
It's all just like a flavor of the month type thing.
And so, yeah, there have been times, I'm not justifying any of it, I'm just saying, yeah, it's very confusing.
Sometimes it's like, we're backing Osama bin Laden, then we're killing him, blaming him for 9-11.
I mean, this is the type of deep state lies that we're used to, why we question everything, but at the same time, we're trying to at least look at what's happening here and wonder if maybe things are different this time.
unidentified
I understand that we're operating under a different paradigm, right?
I mean, all the stuff that you talked about, exactly, it's deep state.
That's Obama and all the deep state that were in operation before President Trump stepped in.
And God bless him, you know, he's having to take ownership of what we got going on right now.
So, I'm 100% behind President Trump and what he did.
And like Dr.
Pchenik mentioned before, you know, this really, this is bound, this is like tied the hands of the Islamic regime in Iran because they're They got nowhere else to go.
They're on their last legs.
It's shaky. You know, they've got problems internally.
And now putting this pressure on them externally is just going to, you know, accelerate the collapse.
You know, a lot of people are worried about this escalating into some big thing.
You know, that's not going to happen.
Russia and China are not going to come to bat for Iran.
You know, who's going to back Iran?
Nobody. I mean, it doesn't mean that they're not going to do something crazy on their own.
Absolutely, because they have no other option, right?
So, and I just want to say something to my fellow InfoWarriors.
Listen, guys, this isn't a question about should we or should we not do something.
We're already in bed here, you know what I mean?
It's like, what are you going to do?
And we have to take measures to either, we're either going to continue the old paradigm of using people, abusing people, or put our faith in President Trump that we're actually trying to clean up our mess.
I haven't seen anything from the president to indicate anything other than that.
He's trying to get us out of Afghanistan.
He's trying to de-escalate the situation in Syria.
Unfortunately, escalating with Iran is a necessary evil right now.
And I hate to say that because I don't believe in that lesser evil thing, but it's like when you're already in the middle of a...
SHIT storm, you gotta figure, you gotta clean up the mess.
You gotta get in there, you gotta get your hands dirty.
owen shroyer
Well, and let's use Syria as an example, and I'm gonna speak from experience here, just from somebody who was on air throughout that.
That, at the time, I was never more angry at President Trump.
In fact, I can say just politically, as far as my coverage was concerned, I don't think I was ever more angry in general than when Trump did the airstrikes on Syria for the first go-around.
Because it was what we thought we were done with.
We thought that this president was going to be different.
And the airstrikes happened and we were like, oh, here we go again.
Except it wasn't a here we go again.
It became an isolated event.
It turned out no civilians were killed.
It was on an airstrip and the damage was almost minuscule.
The airstrip was back up and running.
It was really more of a message. And so, exactly.
And so, I got upset over that.
I would still say rightfully over what we experienced in the past, but now, with this experience, I'm going to sit and wait.
And if there's a further escalation in Iran, if Iran and we're sending 35 troops over there now, if we send another 3,500 and 10,000 and all of a sudden it's another war, okay, well then we'll say, well, this is not good and, you know, we'll decide how to cover it then.
But right now, I almost don't even want to talk about the fact that this guy got killed because there's so many different things that you can weigh.
But let's just weigh the response.
I mean, again, the Democrats denouncing this killing is more action than they ever took when the American citizens were killed in Benghazi.
I mean, so it just again shows you that the hatred of Trump overwhelms common sense and common decency from some politicos in this country.
unidentified
Let's see, Owen, it's not just that, though.
They're mad because their guy—the deep state is totally in bed with the Islamic regime, you know?
And this was another blowup in their face.
They thought, again, that President Trump was just going to be weak, and he wasn't going to do what needed to be done.
They instigated the situation with the embassy in Iraq.
They were trying to throw egg on the president's face.
I mean, they have been since, you know, before he went into office.
So this is just another way— The deep state was trying to undermine the president, foreign relation-wise, just to try to show that he was weak.
And it totally blew up in their face.
I mean, the audacity to send the top military guy that they have into Iraq to meet with the head of the Shia militias that orchestrated this?
I mean, that's hubris in the highest.
And then to think that they wouldn't do anything?
owen shroyer
And don't forget you had John Kerry just meeting with the guy that organized that attack on the embassy, which we're going to get Steve Pechenich take on this in the next hour, next segment even, because he kind of has a different take on this.
And so I'll ask him what the relevance of an Obama and a Kerry is at the apex of all of this.
But we are trying to weigh everything, Mosh.
Thank you so much for the call. Let's go to Wildman in Texas.
unidentified
Go ahead, Wildman. Hey, thanks for taking my call.
baldy in new york
As in relation to all the products, my wife and I take just about all of them every day.
We're pretty healthy.
I'm 60 years old now. I'm on no prescription drugs of any kind.
owen shroyer
And that's rare for somebody your age.
baldy in new york
Yeah, that's awesome.
unidentified
I don't have to take anything like that.
They put a defibrillator in the air back in 2015, but I don't think I knew it.
I think I just held my breath when I was on.
baldy in new york
An electrical machine passed out.
unidentified
They thought something else. But anyway, that's about the point.
I called in in 2015.
baldy in new york
You had a caller on the Alex Jones show earlier talking about the Ebola and stuff.
And in 2015, when the first case hit the United States, which is the guy that came in from Africa and hit Dallas Airport.
I don't know if you remember that or not, but...
owen shroyer
Boy, man, I do, but it feels like yesterday, but it also feels like 10 years ago.
Yeah. And then there was a woman, I think, in, like, Boston or something?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah. Well, Edward Group, Dr.
baldy in new york
Edward Group, come on the show, and I called in, and he had just got through with a conference with a bunch of doctors in California, and a colonel came up from South America telling him, hey, you're going to have a bunch of Ebola cases coming up through the southern border.
Well, that's a known fact.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I mean, colloidal silver is a must-have in a bug-out bag, in a first-aid kit.
The super silver wound dressing gel that we have is the top of the market when it comes to a topical care for wounds.
But, you know, you bring that up with the Ebola thing, and I remember when I went to the San Antonio...
I guess you'd call it a holding center, a facility they had where they were holding the African migrants.
And I went in and talked to the doctor.
And look, I'm not even trying to be rude here to this nice lady that was the doctor who ended up giving us an interview.
And I'm not trying to...
This isn't a rude thing, but man, I'll tell you, people in this country are really so dumb and lazy and they lack observation skills, they lack basic research.
And this woman who's running this facility said, oh, there's no way anybody has Ebola.
And I ran through all the tests with her and they're like, oh yeah, well, we don't need to do those tests.
I was like, well, you know, it can remain dormant in a man's body for up to 90 days.
And you've only run tests for up to 30 or less for some of these people.
What if it, oh no, we don't need to do that.
Oh, that's not true. It's like, no, that's from the CDC. I even read from the CDC documents and she didn't even know about it.
I'm flabbergasted.
And I talked about this earlier. We've reached a point in civilization where IQs and just basic observation skills and, like, read and report and comprehension is so low...
Yeah, I'm worried that a top doctor that runs an immigration facility in San Antonio doesn't even know the basic facts.
I'm not trying to be mean. She just fits in with the average American that's so clueless on basic things.
They can't even add one and one together.
I'm sorry to rant, Wildman.
unidentified
It's just true. Yeah, I agree.
I mean, they're complete morons.
They're eat up with it. It's just like the Soleimani deal, whether that's his ring or not.
Doesn't really matter. I don't believe President Trump will get up and address the public.
owen shroyer
And that's exactly my point.
I'm not even talking about is Soleimani dead or not.
I'm saying, hey, look, that's a different ring.
You're a major news publication saying it's the same ring.
It's not. You don't even address people like, yeah, it is.
It's like, no, it's not. Well, I gotta say, Steve Pachenik is just an incredible man.
He was on the Alex Jones Show earlier, and then somehow, in between the Jones Show and now coming on the War Room, he went to Hawaii, brought himself a school of fish with him now, and a new Hawaiian t-shirt.
That is the American dream, Steve Pachenik.
Goes on the Alex Jones Show, goes to Hawaii for a short vacation, comes back with a school of fish and a new shirt, and now does the War Room.
unidentified
How do you do it? I don't know, Owen.
steve pieczenik
I did go swimming in the lake, though, and it was about 58 degrees, so I'm able to answer some of your questions.
They're going to be very penetrating, and I just enjoy your show.
I don't know why you guys are wearing beards, but I do admire them.
owen shroyer
I've always kind of worn a beard.
It honestly just started kind of like I just didn't want to shave.
And then it just kind of became people liked it and it kind of became my look.
But let's not get distracted now.
You've got the total clean look going on with the clean head and face.
But these are going to be some penetrating questions because you have a certain insight and experience here that is rare and is not going to be heard probably, quite frankly, anywhere else in the landscape of media.
So let me just start it off with this before we go into the latest details from the Soleimani killing with the drone strike.
What relevance or is there any relevance or what involvement does a John Kerry and a Barack Obama have on the original attack on the U.S. Embassy?
We saw that Kerry was over there communicating with Iranians.
We know that people from the Obama administration.
We know that McCain was communicating with terrorists in that region as well.
They've always kind of been churning these proxy wars for a long time, these same people.
Do you think that there's any significance...
To John Kerry going to Iran recently, do you think Obama and his cohorts are behind the scenes trying to pull strings here, or do you think this is actually an organic event?
steve pieczenik
I think this is very much of an organic event, but tied to the previous administrations where, you know, we who've served are not great fans of McCain, as we've said.
He was a coward.
He was a traitor. I mean, all those issues, and he killed people on the forestall.
The same thing, we're not fans of Kerry.
Kerry is the individual who brought in a film crew when he went into Vietnam.
We were totally disgusted when he came out.
And Obama, as you know, we've talked about him.
He's a CIA operator.
What's relevant to all of this, having said the past things that I've just said about the three of them, is the fact that Trump— He wants to create a new slate, i.e., that means this is Trump's administration.
He wants to undo the hundreds of billions of dollars that were paid to the Iranians.
He wants to undo the fact that we have any attachment to Iran or that we gave them money in a situation where basically we paid off terrorists for hostages.
That type of action is not agreeable to Trump.
At the same time, Trump is quite clear he does not want a war.
He doesn't like wars.
It's not a question that he's a peacenik.
It's a question that he himself knows wars in the long run don't really make that much money or that profitable.
On the other hand, I would say that the present action, if one were a day trader, would improve the stocks in Lockheed, Raytheon, L3. I can't even imagine the days those stocks had, or the week they've had.
owen shroyer
And people are like, oh, the market crashed after the killing of Soleimani.
No, it didn't. It took like a minuscule bump.
I mean, literally, I couldn't even measure it with a microscope.
By the way, up 31% overall since Trump was inaugurated.
31% overall!
steve pieczenik
Now you hit it on the head.
Basically, Trump is really exceedingly good for the economy.
The war stocks will continue to go up because of uncertainty, but not because it's a war, per se.
Trump doesn't want a war.
If Soleimani or Ayatollah Khamenei decides to come back and retaliate, he's got to be very, very careful.
Because if he retaliates, we have operatives all over the Middle East.
owen shroyer
So we're about to go to break.
Hold that thought. Let's talk about what that would mean, what that could mean, a retaliation from Iran with the expert Steve Pacinic.
Glad to have him back on the War Room today.
He may even have a different shirt when we come back, folks.
I mean, this is Super Steve here.
We have no idea. Can we get Steve Pacinic head-rocking on the live cam real quick?
Steve Pacinic was just head-banging.
steve pieczenik
Well, you know, I like rock and roll.
Oh, and I grew up with rock and roll.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and by the way, I'm going to put out...
I'm going to do this, even though I'm so busy, just because I do love rock and roll so much.
Billboard put out their top rock songs for 2019.
It was an abomination.
And for the decade. I'm going to fix that for real rock fans so that you can get some real rock.
But I'm getting distracted here.
Steve Pachenik, great to have you on, as always.
We were talking about...
Before that short break, what an Iranian retaliation might look like.
Let me ask you this before we get into the possible logistics or possibilities of that.
What do you make of the Twitter diplomacy, which is the best way I can phrase what's happening right now between President Trump and And the president of Iran, President Trump, puffing up his chest on Twitter saying, don't mess with America, in all caps.
And then Hamini from Iran saying, we will have vengeance.
This is a war crime.
I mean, that to me is very odd, very low IQ. I almost don't even believe it, quite frankly.
But what do you make of that?
Is this really the 2020 diplomacy?
Are they talking behind the scenes or is this what we get?
steve pieczenik
No, you get much more behind the scenes.
But what you're underlying—and I think you hit a key point—that in the 21st century, the diplomacy is no longer that of putting people in a foreign place than securing them in an embassy.
What the 21st century is—and, in fact, Trump brought it in—is Twitter.
And he used the instruments of the 21st century, the Internet.
Now, Khamenei really doesn't know which way to maneuver.
And he has a real problem.
What we did, in effect, by taking out Soleimani was to put pressure on Khamenei, the Ayatollah, and at the same time we put pressure On his exports of oil, which he needs to do in order to make money.
But we have created a tariff.
We've created an embargo.
And internally, he has a much greater problem than he has externally.
The Soleimani problem is just that— The pin of the head of the needle, because internally, as you remember weeks ago, he killed a lot of kids who were protesting the corruption of Soleimani and Ayatollah Khamenei.
So, what we have now is Khamenei We're stuck, not really knowing which way to go.
We have an internal agitation propaganda that will ensue.
And then there's another country that came in, and nobody's talked about it, although I've talked about it in one of my videos, and that is Japan.
Japan is the new actor in this—all of this.
And the ruthlessness of Japan is not apparent.
And what do I mean by that?
They have a history in World War II of being quite ruthless.
In the 21st century, they've restrained their ability to be an offensive force.
Very quietly and brilliantly, two weeks ago, decided to put in Japanese warships and Japanese oil ships in the Middle East as a surrogate for the American warships and American oil ships.
So, what he has done is brought in one of the most ruthless allies we have, who actually has been quite good and quite loyal, Prime Minister Abe.
He knows very well that what we're looking for is a retaliation, if needed, and it will be Abe and the Japanese who may be in the forefront of this war, because Trump has already positioned—now, we haven't heard anything about the Japanese military.
owen shroyer
Is that right? I have not heard Japan brought up.
In fact, it actually makes more sense hearing you say this now because, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the biggest interest in the world, I would guess, that has Iran's back would be China.
And so for Japan to pivot there, that's a chess move against China as well.
steve pieczenik
Exactly. Now you hit it on the head, Owen.
And China knows that they have to be restrained right now because of the economic situation Trump had put them in.
That tariff war, as much as it's hurt our farmers—and that will be corrected— The Chinese are looking for retaliatory measures, but they can't quite do it, because Xi's economy is falling apart.
Their growth rate has been diminished.
The credit systems that Xi created have been— I've been undermined.
And in fact, we will have a trade agreement within a couple of weeks.
owen shroyer
Now, I'm sorry.
I want to stop you there. We can come back to that because I want to get back to the focus.
But this is actually key as well when you're talking about what Iran is dealing with in their country and what China is dealing with in their country and where America's economic growth is happening right now.
And it's really like—and it still has governors on it, folks.
If we broke the chains of Chinese production and labor and goods, I mean, this country's economy would— It would beat the entire world economy combined ten times over.
But we can talk about that later, Steve.
I want to get back to the issue that we started with, though, and that's Iranian retaliation.
What do you think that would mean?
You discounted sleeper cells in the United States.
The Pentagon released a report saying that that's not a threat.
So what would a possible Iranian retaliation look like?
What would that mean? And is the puffing up of the chest of Khomeini just that, him puffing up the chest, him bluffing?
steve pieczenik
Part of it is his bluffing.
Part of it will be increased dissension within Iraq.
But we have to remember what I said before on Alex's show.
The real reason we had gone in there was that the Iraqis had been protesting He's protesting Iranian corruption.
So he may increase the suppression in Iraq.
At the same time, he may encourage Hezbollah in Lebanon to start—precipitate actions against the Israelis.
So the Israelis have to go on a war footing right now.
If I were there, I'd go from a DEFCON 2 to a DEFCON 1.
Because right now, it's a game played across the chessboard.
The other part of this is Syria.
Now, Russia, as you said, has taken over much of our place in Syria.
I'm for that.
owen shroyer
I have been for that. Oh, geopolitically, it makes sense.
Putin and Assad go back way, long way.
steve pieczenik
Correct. But Bashar Assad is a very smart leader.
Like me, he's a physician, blah, blah, blah.
I was in Syria.
He's not looking to destroy anything.
As a matter of fact, it has not been brought up repeated.
It has not been brought up in the past that Assad, one of the reasons I went in there, is that he's protecting millions of Christians under the Alawite And so he wants to avoid another incursion that was precipitated by Saudi Arabia.
So what you'll see is an increased conflict in Yemen against the Houthis.
So the Iranians will—I mean, the Houthis will increase their conflict against the Saudis.
You will see increasing tension on the Israeli border, and you will see increasing tension wherever Iran is, in Syria.
He won't do that. And the reason he won't do that, it would be an all-out conflict, and that's not where we're going.
owen shroyer
And I don't even think that would be possible unless they did have sleeper cells, but we'll count on the Pentagon report that that's not a threat either.
But so let me ask you this. We got 90 seconds left.
Where do you see... The peace is falling here, if you can just do kind of a little prediction, because you have Lebanon that's really, I mean, some might say the most sovereign of that area that just kind of wants to deal with its own business.
They support Syrian sovereignty.
I think they kind of want all these nations to go into their own sovereign states, but they see the threat of radical Islam, and they really don't get along necessarily with Israel.
So how do you see all these pieces shaking out?
steve pieczenik
Well, what I see is, number one, Lebanon is going to have an internal revolution that has nothing to do with Iran per se, other than the fact that Iran I supported Hezbollah, and Hezbollah has turned out to be a corrupt magistrate in Lebanon.
So we've had those riots internally.
Then we see in Israel there will be an increased DEFCON. There will be probably retaliation by Hamas and some PLO elements against the Israelis, but it will be limited.
At the same time, Iran will try to retaliate in Yemen and possibly against Saudi Arabia.
But overall, there will be an increased tension.
The stock markets will reflect that, but we will not have an all-out war, because the other elements, the other players will be Putin, who will come in, he is literally our surrogate in the Middle East.
owen shroyer
Let's talk about that. We're about to go to break.
Great segue. Let's talk about that when we go to the other side.
But you know what's funny? People want to sit here and say, oh, Israel, Israel, Israel.
You know, Yemen gets kind of forgotten in this whole thing.
Yemen has just been devastated for the last two to three years, folks.
And it's like nobody ever talks about that, the people in Yemen.
And Israel is the number one target, I would say, right now.
But Yemen as well. Welcome back to the Infowars War Room.
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Dr. Steve Pacinic is our guest and we're about to get into a main factor in this formula.
Those are actually Dr. Pacinic's friends over there dancing outside of the studio right now.
I don't know what the deal is.
They come and hang out outside the studio.
They just dance like crazy.
But all jokes aside, a major factor in this equation is obviously Vladimir Putin and Russia.
Let me give you a couple headlines, Dr.
Prochenik, for you to respond to.
Lavrov to Pompeo.
Soleimani assassination is violation of international law.
You also have the Daily Beast, which I don't trust as far as I could throw a 10,000-ton anchor.
Russian state media blames impeachment for Trump's Iran strike, saying he's trying to distract from his impeachment.
Now, you're saying that Putin is the surrogate behind this.
It would make sense, and I think Trump is wise enough to get the...
Let's say blessing of Vladimir Putin before moving forward with some of these moves.
So what do you make of Lavrov and what do you think is going on behind the scenes between Trump and Putin?
steve pieczenik
It's an excellent question.
I'm going to give you something that I will call paradoxical intention.
Instead of an all-out war, what I predict, and we'll see if this happens, is a kabuki that goes along the following line.
Number one, Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia will meet with Ayatollah Khamenei and discuss the production of oil.
I think he made an initial attempt a couple of weeks ago.
I've been critical of him.
But I think we're allowing him to say to Ayatollah Khamenei, no more wars.
You can do some kabuki that you want that will justify some sense of self-respect.
But, in fact, I think they will come to some understanding in terms of Yemen.
One would normally predict that there would be an increased attack by the Houthis against the Saudis, but my suspicion is they will try that only for a brief amount, but really start to decrease the amount of killings that have been going on in Yemen.
We do not want to support that war anymore.
We've been supporting the Saudis.
At the same time, the Iranians are tired of the war.
The Saudis are tired of the war, and unfortunately, 135 children die every two days, and that has been an atrocity.
owen shroyer
So wait, put this into layman's terms.
So basically, you're saying that Khamenei is against the wall, and they're going to provide him an out, give him a little Superman cape and a little outfit with the fake abs so that he can act powerful, but they're going to get their geopolitical will.
steve pieczenik
Now you got it.
And in turn, we will have a greater sense of stability in the Middle East.
And from a very personal and selfish point of view, Khamenei is really relieved—and that's what they don't talk about—about the fact that he no longer has a viable political enemy.
And that's important to understand.
What has not been brought out in the mainstream media It's the tension that had been building, even when I was there, between the IRG, Soleimani, and the power of Soleimani versus Khamenei.
So, what we've decided to do is to get that tension, decrease it, by eliminating Khamenei's So-called enemy, but his partner, so to speak.
And Khamenei has always been mistrustful of the self-aggrandizing Soleimani.
And people have to understand, Soleimani came in as a poor kid from the farms, got his, you know, his merit badge in the Iran-Iraq war, and then literally worked his way up the IRG. But at the same time, Khamenei was very threatened by the presence of a very powerful IRG, or Iranian Revolutionary Guard, under the control of Soleimani.
So, in an ironic way, what's happening is Ayatollah Khamenei is really thanking Trump And through all this bluster, because now...
owen shroyer
Right, because, okay, because Soleimani was number two behind Khomeini to be the next leader, so if he gets a little, you know, wind behind his sails, all of a sudden he takes over for Khomeini, and so Khomeini's now sitting back saying, oh, well, that's a stress relief.
steve pieczenik
Now you got it, and that's why I say it's a paradoxical intention.
In the world of conflict...
And in the world of strategic assassination, which I know quite well, we often look for the contradictory behavior.
It's not always logical that everybody will go to war.
In fact, what happens is, when we do a strategic assassination, as we've done here with Soleimani, we've relieved the pressure internally vis-a-vis Khamenei and Soleimani, and ironically increased the tension with the young people in Iran who say, you know, this is enough.
So, we have contradictory forces—or, as I said to Alex, it's dialectical or Hegelian.
I don't want to get too confusing, but there are two contradictory forces that are playing out.
My prediction is that peace will dominate the entire region for the simple reason we've moved in the Japanese.
The Russians have already moved in.
They're on the northern border of Iran.
Putin is a very effective surrogate for the United States.
He will temper Bibi, who will come in.
Bibi, in turn, will increase the readiness or the DEFCON of the Israeli army.
There will be some kind of kabuki between the Israeli army and maybe Hezbollah.
But Hezbollah in Lebanon is already falling apart because they're so corrupt.
And Nazar Ali has lost a lot of his power because of the internal corruption.
And in turn, we will see Mohammed bin Salman come to the forefront and relieve a lot of that pressure that Iran has and give him the ability to export oil so there can be a growth.
That's what I predict.
It's called paradoxical intention, but who knows?
owen shroyer
Just real quick, I think this is the case, but Saudi Arabia mostly has sweet, and in Iran they have crude, right?
Correct. And that makes it difficult for Iran to export oil because they have to go through the process of purifying it and getting it out, whereas when they get it out of Saudi Arabia, they can just put it on market immediately.
That's why Saudi Arabia has been able to get so rich off of this.
steve pieczenik
But, you know, see— It hit it right on the head.
And remember, Mohammed bin Salman just did an IPO for $2 trillion.
So his ability to ship that oil will increase the price of his stock.
So in that way, everybody is getting money for it.
owen shroyer
And by the way, in the long term, this strategy actually ends oil wars because you have Saudi Arabia putting out the sweet from their own country, and then you have the United States now leading the world in exporting oil.
So we're not battling in Syria or these other places.
People should be celebrating this, but see, and this is what I was getting to, and this is the key right here.
The media never tells you the truth.
And you're never even going to see the real picture, even from Trump or from any of these people.
And I don't know if you've ever seen the movie Kingsman, Dr.
Berchenik. Have you seen the movie Kingsman by any chance?
It's the part in Kingsman where I believe the guy's name is Harry is sitting at his desk with all the headlines behind him.
And he's like, yeah, on this day I stopped a bomb from blowing up, and the headline is, England beats, you know, Germany 5-1 in soccer.
Well, that's basically what this is.
I mean, the headlines are all saying this.
None of it's the real story, and that's why Infowars is so important.
That's why the mainstream media hates Infowars, because at a certain level they've kind of laid it down and said, look, we'll put out the headline.
We don't really care. We're making millions of dollars.
That's not what we're in it for here at Infowars.
We want to give you the real headlines.
Doesn't mean we get it perfect every time, but it means, hey, we know that Germany beating England 5-1 is not the big headline.
steve pieczenik
There's a bigger reason, and you just gave it without realizing.
Nowhere in any article have I... Read that any reporter understood the difference between crude oil and refined oil or sweet oil.
You are the one who hit it right on the head.
owen shroyer
All right, we're going to break. Let's get back to that in a second.
We had a major revelation in the break.
You know, people are trying to find the real ring of Soleimani.
It turns out it's actually on Steve Pachenik's left hand.
There it is right there.
We found it. It's the ring of Soleimani.
It's been on Steve Pachenik's hand the whole time.
I'm being facetious because I can tell that's not the same ring, but somehow people...
Oh, that is... Oh, yeah.
You actually ripped it off the severed hand.
steve pieczenik
I got this ring in Iran, and what it says is, the same thing he wore.
And the reason I wore it, not because of Suleiman, I've worn it for 10 years, because traveling through the Middle East, anybody who saw that ring automatically knew that I understood Arabic and Islam, and I didn't have to explain anything.
So ironically, Owen, this is the same ring.
owen shroyer
I did notice that a lot of Muslim leaders, specifically in Iran, wear that ring, including Soleimani.
I want to actually tie this into what Steve was saying in the last segment, actually, though.
And what he said on the Alex Jones show.
Again, I'm not trying to start some conspiracy theory over the ring of Soleimani here.
I just have enough observance and attention to detail to say, hey, here, when they put a story out that says they identified him via the ring, it's not the same ring.
And people are like, oh yeah it is.
I'm like, no, look at the picture.
It's a different color.
The stone isn't protruding.
So again, I'm not saying Soleimani's not dead.
I'm not saying that's not his severed hand.
I'm saying it's not the same ring.
He's got like 30,000 rings.
And I've never seen that ring on his hand before.
I've seen 100 different rings, never that ring.
So I just point that out.
But to bring this back home is what we were talking about.
And you were talking about this earlier too, Steve.
And it's a level...
Of reality, it's a level of propaganda that you have to hurdle.
Okay? And that's this.
There's this acceptance, this belief...
This indoctrination that if somebody's on TV, or somebody's with the big mainstream news, or somebody's from the Democrat Party in Congress, or in a federal bureaucracy, they're all-knowing, they're all-powerful, and they're in control.
Well, no, they're not.
Most of the time, these people are total phonies, total fops, total illiterates.
And so, I just, people could take that That leap intellectually, Steve, to not have their narratives, their beliefs, their thoughts dominated by people who are either too lazy to do the real work, have no interest in putting out truth, or are just Operation Mockingbird agents to put out misinformation and disinformation, as you're well aware of. So it's like you said, you'll read 100 stories today or thousands of
stories today about what's going on in Iran and Saudi Arabia. And as you said, no one will say the difference between crude and sweet, which is so important to the economical impact of this.
So just in general, what about the state of the media? Are you noticing when you see the coverage of this? Or are you so over that you don't even watch it anymore?
steve pieczenik
I think it's the latter part.
I don't even watch it.
It's so irrelevant to the everyday world that I don't even look at it at all.
I'd rather look at movies and listen to rock and roll.
The truth of the matter is the Anderson Coopers and all those others, it's just an act.
It's the end of Hollywood.
And what you're really seeing with the Democrats and the movie business and the media is the end of an industry.
It's an industry of We're good to go.
The alternative media, which they always deprecate, has become the real basis on which we can at least discuss something.
We're not the holy men, but who else talked about crude and refined oil?
I mean, and different kinds of oil.
People even in Texas don't understand.
Look, Because of the Permian Basin, thanks to you guys in Texas, we have sweet oil.
But at the same time, we have oil coming out of North Dakota from fracking.
As a result of that, we're a net exporter of oil.
So we don't need to have a problem with Iran, or we don't need to go to war, as Jimmy Carter had tried to do in the Iran hostage seat, and messed it all up.
He didn't know what he was doing.
That's when I resigned.
At the same time, not only can we flood the markets with oil, we'll hold back part of that in order so Mohammed bin Salman can also provide the oil.
So Iran can still maintain its economic If we really wanted to sink Iran, we would go as an agitprop internally, which we will do, and then cut off his entire oil supply, which we haven't really done.
Even though we have a tariff and all kinds of, you know, prohibitions on them, they know very well that they can bring the oil to different parts.
That's why we're using Japan.
So, in effect, what you're going to see is a rise in tension, a certain hysteria from the media, but in fact, The oil people, the Lockheed Martins, the Raytheons, the L3 Harrises, all these companies that really do work together and make part of America—we call the military-industrial complex or whatever—will do well, and America will continue to be economically viable.
At the same time, Latin America will not be.
Venezuela is in trouble.
Brazil is in trouble.
Argentina is in trouble.
And we have Brexit going on, which will be a positive moon.
At the same time, France is in trouble.
Spain is in trouble.
Italy is in trouble. Yeah, oh my gosh.
owen shroyer
I hate to cut you off, but it's just like, man, these conversations are so powerful.
I mean, my mind is just like, it's like a nuclear explosion happening in my mind right now.
But yeah, I mean, America is literally in the prime pull position right now to be absolutely dominant as a world power, but not like we have been with the foreign interventions and all that, but like really an economic power that influences in culture and in business and in trade.
It's going to take some time to get there, but that's where we're going.
And I just had another thought, too.
And when we come back in the next segment, Steve, I'm going to take you in a completely different direction.
But I was just thinking about this.
Again, my mind is just like a nuclear explosion talking to you right now.
This is about as good a talk show as you can get.
For so many years, and this has been propagated by fake news, people in America, specifically oil companies, have sought out oil in other countries for obvious reasons.
And they don't tap into their reserves. It's really that simple.
Well, we're reaching this point where we're, let's say, tapping into our oil resources, and it's a good move. We become a net exporter.
But I just realized, too, you know, it won't even matter, probably.
Let's hope 10, 15 years down the road, I mean, Steve, we could already be on alternative energy sources.
But we're really at that flashpoint where we can push as much oil out as we want and then force ingenuity in the energy sector so that we don't have to rely on oil as much.
steve pieczenik
That's true. I mean, we are in the controlling element right now.
We have the ability to do alternative energy if we want, but we've held that off.
We have the ability to flood the markets, but we won't because of our alliances with— Saudi Arabia and other countries.
We've gone into oil drilling outside of Brazil and other countries.
But, in fact, we never touch the strategic oil reserve.
And what we really do, which is quite Machiavellian but very smart, is that we don't even use our own oil.
The reason we still import the oil is a way of really reserving all our capacity, but we can flood it at any moment.
So we don't really use our entire capability in the Permian Basin or North Dakota or in the fracking business.
So we've held back.
If we really let loose, we could flood the markets and bring oil down to about $20 or $15 a barrel, and we don't want to do that.
owen shroyer
This is why this impeachment hoax and the partisan politics happening right now in D.C. is just so detrimental to America.
Again, whether you like Trump or don't like him or his policy, the squabbling and the petty bickering and, quite frankly, the sedition and treason that the Democrats are engaged in right now.
It's keeping America down.
I mean, we could be blasting off right now like an Elon Musk rocket to space, but this impeachment nonsense is keeping Americans from at least accepting Trump.
I mean, you don't have to love him, you don't even have to like him, but they won't even accept him.
They deny that he's even the president, and it's this weight keeping us down.
I can't even imagine where we'd be. All right, I'm going to take Steve Petunek in a totally different direction when we get back.
You're going to want to stick around for this.
All right, I told you we were going to go a completely different direction here.
With Dr. Steve Pachenik.
But I gotta say, this has been some of the most powerful talk show material that you're gonna get.
And the archive of this is at band.video.
We're gonna have that uploaded. I'll share it on my Twitter.
The last 40 minutes from this hour with Steve Pachenik really breaking this down.
There's Bald Alex Jones, what we may be seeing in the near future.
But no, breaking this down, the analysis you're not gonna get anywhere else.
But Dr.
Steve Pachenik, the last time we spoke...
You said you don't think Jeffrey Epstein is dead, you think he's still alive, and he was snuck out of that New York jail.
Now, let me just say this.
The whole story, folks, if you really think about it and dive deep intellectually in this, the official narrative doesn't make any sense.
It really doesn't. And, again, whether you think he was killed in the jail cell, okay, let's say you believe he was killed in the jail cell, well, what they're saying in response to that doesn't make any sense.
Oh, there's no security footage.
Oh, the guards don't know anything.
Nobody knows anything. Oh, breathe, Epstein, breathe.
Oh, he committed suicide with toilet paper, hung himself.
Okay, well, none of that makes any sense.
So, considering that, you have to raise some questions.
And then you kind of look at the weirdness of the body they claim that they snuck out of there.
And just the fact that Epstein could even get killed as like the top witness for the top pedophile network ever.
Like the key witness in like the biggest criminal case potentially ever.
I mean, quite frankly, we could be looking at that and he gets killed in jail.
It doesn't really make sense. But...
But so you think he's still alive.
Now, it's said that Ghislaine Maxwell is hiding out in Israel as the Israeli spy that she was.
Of course, Epstein, a triple agent at least, working for Israel as well.
But what do you think is going on here?
So do you still think Jeffrey Epstein is still alive?
I guess, what does that mean? Witness protection?
steve pieczenik
They snuck him out of there? Let me put it this way, so people get a sense of the whole thing.
Number one, Jeffrey Epstein, in and of himself, is not as relevant as the fact that Jeffrey Epstein represents an operative who works within the CIA, with the Mossad, and potentially other units.
He did a honey trap.
The honey trap is an ancient technique of compromising different people.
He compromised a lot of our scientists at MIT, where I went.
He compromised a lot of scientists, George Church at Harvard, where I went.
He compromised people at Cornell.
That was his job.
But the job was done on behalf of the CIA, the Mossad, and their close relationship that's gone on from 1950.
Epstein, in and of himself, is not really an interesting person.
He's a low-class Jew who came from Brooklyn without any education and was really groomed by our intelligence and by the Mossad to compromise other people using honey trap.
But what I objected to was the fact that they were using Young children as a honey track.
You don't do that.
Even in the world that I work in, which was in the gutter in the intelligence world, you do not use children.
That is a no-no.
And for that alone, there should have been repercussions.
Unfortunately, nobody's been arrested.
So the entire narrative that was brought in that he was arrested and he died is absurd.
William Barr unfortunately compounded that absurdity by saying, oh, it was a perfect storm of unusual events.
Well, William Barr knows better than that, and he lied.
He knows very well that his father was the dean of the Dalton School who hired Epstein.
owen shroyer
So Barr— As a teacher, we had no teaching experience, but just to kind of go back for a second and give a little clearer picture— So, Epstein had the island where he had, you know, let's not say children, but young girls underage, at least as far as sexual consent is concerned.
And he'd fly people down there, put people out there on a boat.
Oh, hey, you hooked up with that hot blonde.
Turns out she's 16.
You might want to keep that under wraps.
You know what I'm saying? Or, hey, saw you hooked up with that Burnett girl last night.
I'm sure you don't want your wife to find out.
Hey, you might want to do this for me.
So that's kind of how it was going.
steve pieczenik
Well, it's more serious than that.
It's not just the individual that's compromised in the family.
It's institutions.
There's a reason why MIT was highly compromised.
Our president, Raphael Reif, he was the provost, and they took in millions of dollars that Epstein— Now,
owen shroyer
is that relevant to the discovery at the New Mexico compound, where Epstein was there, apparently trying to make clones of himself and other such weirdness?
steve pieczenik
No, not really. That's a side note.
What really is relevant is the notion that we're running intelligence operatives, and we don't have a control over it.
We don't have a control over our Justice Department, which is a failure, which is what Trump has been saying.
The FBI is a joke.
It's a complete joke.
It's a sick joke.
And I've worked with them, and I found them incompetent throughout my whole career.
So we don't deal with it.
At the same time, Warren Barr is a joke.
I mean, does he seriously think that anybody's going to believe that Epstein or anybody can kill themselves in a cell?
By doing what? And at the same time saying this is a perfect storm of absurdities?
So you've got a compromised attorney general who should resign and be fired.
You have a compromised Department of Justice that should be thrown out.
You've got a compromised FBI. You've got a compromised Homeland Security.
And you have a president who's not firing them.
owen shroyer
But now you're saying, I mean, Pompeo, Wray, Barr, you don't trust them?
steve pieczenik
No.
No, I don't.
owen shroyer
So what is, so then the question becomes, what does the president do?
He's surrounded by Washington, D.C. types.
Hey, look, maybe Pompeo's a good guy, maybe he's not as bad as, say, you know, a Comey or a Brennan or a Clapper, but if he still comes from that ilk, with those interests interests in mind, you know, we're dealing with the same issues sometimes.
steve pieczenik
Well, you're talking about, guys, Pompeo, number one at West Point.
Then he goes on to become a businessman, but funded by the Koch brothers.
I mean, this is not a serious military man.
This is not a serious businessman.
This is a man who's a self-promoter and will end up probably being a politician, which is what he is.
The truth of the matter is that underneath all the bluster—and I've said this about Trump on The Alex Jones Show—he's not tough enough.
He doesn't fire.
He can't have anybody on the staff that knows how to fire and could care less.
The truth of the matter is there has to be a cleansing out of the entire White House of the State Department.
When do we have 74,000 people in the State Department?
At best, under Kissinger, we work with maybe 15 people.
Under Baker, at best, we work with 10.
I don't need 74,000 people.
I don't need embassies around the world.
I don't need regional security officers.
So you need somebody in that White House who can start cleaning out the Justice Department, the Foreign Service Department.
Why do we have 16 intelligence organizations?
That's absurd. Absolutely absurd.
owen shroyer
Which, by the way, all said that the dossier, the fake dossier was real.
Chuck Schumer came on the air and said the dossier has been confirmed by 16 intelligence agencies.
steve pieczenik
Schumer's a joke. I mean, the reason why I like what's happening now is the fact that it underlines the fact that we have a very...
A republic which has faults in it.
And that's normal. Every generation has problems.
And in some ways, we're really talking about an internal kind of second civil war without all the bloodshed that we had.
What we need now is to show you how absurd the Pelosi's are, the Schumer's are.
The shifts.
I mean, it's a joke.
You don't need these House of Representatives in the 21st century.
You don't need these senators who are making a fortune and come out to be multimillionaire.
How does Pelosi makes maybe a quarter of a million a year?
owen shroyer
She needs to be investigated immediately.
What is taking so long on Nancy Pelosi?
steve pieczenik
They're not going to do that because the system is so corrupt within itself that really what you're saying, it destroys itself.
And when the gods are cruel, they grant your wishes.
So Pelosi has a wish.
She's got an impeachment. And what does that mean?
That's the end of her career.
That'll be the end of a lot of Democrats.
That means Trump comes back in again.
And that's what happens.
And that's the nature of human race.
We go into paradoxes.
We go into opposites to what we really want.
I'm not against it.
I think this is fine.
But do I need a Schumer?
Do I need a Schiff?
No, I don't need any of them.
They're totally irrelevant to the running of a republic.
owen shroyer
Well, major predictions made by Steve Pacinic today.
This is maybe one of the finest hours we've ever had on The War Room.
Dr. Steve Pacinic, thank you.
Great to have you back on The War Room.
Hopefully it will be again soon.
Who knows, maybe Jeffrey Epstein pops up and we'll get Steve on this show to figure out where he's at.
Great stuff, Steve, as always.
God bless you. Ladies and gentlemen, there's already other developments happening right now when it comes to the aftermath of this Iran strike.
But again, these things are so raw and there's such an urgency to come on here and report on things.
But really, I just want to sit back and wait to see where some of these crumbs or the way the cookie crumbles, if you will, But there are reports of more strikes now.
And you have Pence saying that they have Iran dead to rights on aiding and abetting the 9-11 terrorists.
Now, you could say the same thing about certain elements of the United States government.
I'm just simply here reporting some of the aftermath.
Now, we're going to go back to the phone calls.
We've had a lot of people holding for a while.
So, the phone lines, we have lines open.
877-789-2539.
Levi in Texas.
Levi, thanks for holding. Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Owen. How are you?
Good. Thank you. What I wanted to point out to you is I firmly believe with all my heart that what happened with the embassy was a deep state deal that got double-crossed.
Between the deep state and Iran, let me explain it to you real quick, okay?
They came back from holiday, and the impeachment is not sitting well with the American people.
They needed something to hang Trump on.
And they created what they thought was going to be a Benghazi event.
They did not anticipate or believe That Trump would react the way he reacted to it.
He reacted within 24 hours.
Striking hard and fast.
Which tells me that there was no deep staters involved with him when he made that decision to strike an act.
Because they would have tried to stop it.
They cried.
The press was all in agreement.
Common talking points.
Oh, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.
And with this strike, he shut them up.
And the mullahs were caught off guard because they had been double-crossed.
Their guy had been killed when he wasn't supposed to be killed.
And what I find ironic about it is that the deep state released to the New York Times, four hours before he was killed, an op-ed opinion piece.
That a hypersonic missile was just going to mysteriously kill their general.
You can read it. It's online right now.
owen shroyer
And are you talking about it was going to kill Soleimani?
unidentified
Yes. You see, you're very observant here.
owen shroyer
And this is why it's so great taking calls and why the Infowars audience and just these broadcasts here are so important to analyze the facts.
Now, as far as the whole layout there, I do...
I mean, not that you can answer them.
Obviously, there would be questions.
But I would say this, if Trump is doing an end around the deep state right now, communicating with Russia or even elements inside Iran and Saudi Arabia, and quote-unquote deep staters don't know what's going on, or even maybe his own administration doesn't know what's going on, if that's even possible, that would be interesting because...
The Democrats would then be in a situation, if Trump is backdooring with Putin, for them to come out and say, see, Trump backdoors with Putin over this deal.
But then that would destroy their whole narrative because Putin would have had to have given Trump's good graces for this attack.
And then they'd have to bring back Russian collusion, which already failed and died.
So I'm just kind of responding to you, but finish up here.
30 seconds. Okay.
unidentified
One. Remember, Trump gave Putin information that there was going to be a terrorist attack in Moscow on New Year's Eve.
He stopped it.
So Putin, okay, may have worked with Trump to give him information to help him in this situation.
Number two, the ring.
Very observant. There's a picture online of the general.
He has both rings, one on each hand.
He has both rings.
You can see the picture. You'll do an online search for the general.
You'll see he's got both rings.
One on his left, one on the right.
owen shroyer
But still not the ring from the picture of his dead hand, though.
It may even be irrelevant, but it's just true.
It's not the same ring. We're in the final hour of the InfoWars War Room.
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Alright, the crew is showing the picture of these rings.
We're taking your calls the rest of the way here.
I just gotta say, again, I'm just observing and reporting.
I just call it as I see it.
And more anomalies just keep coming out from the scene of the drone strike here.
Like, for example, the car that was struck you see is in multiple different locations.
So somebody must have moved the car from near the wall Why is there no other cars on this road?
So, again, I'm just asking questions here, just observing and reporting.
But I'm yet—again, I'm not saying he's not dead.
I'm not trying to start some conspiracies.
I'm just looking at the facts, looking at what I see, and just pointing out anomalies.
Like, for example, the ring they claim that they use to identify Soleimani, I'm yet to see him with that ring on his finger in any of the pictures.
And there's all kinds of rings he has, and I understand that.
Maybe it's the same stone and he gets a new ring every day, but it seems a little odd that none of the rings that he's ever been pictured with are the actual ring he's wearing in that picture, which is an Iranian tradition, so how do they even know it's his?
Again, I'm just asking the questions here because no one else will.
But let's go back out to the phone lines.
Again, I'm just flabbergasted, folks, that I can sit here and say, look, this isn't the same ring, and people think I'm crazy.
You say, yeah, it's the same ring. I don't even know how to respond to that, folks.
It's like, don't believe your own lying eyes.
Let's go to Richard in Texas.
unidentified
Go ahead, Richard. Hey, Owen.
richard in texas
I'd like to put some things together for you.
Hopefully I can get through it all quickly.
So Soleimani and al-Baghdadi were two of Clapper and Brennan's biggest, highest investment programs.
And so one of the things that's going on here is this is actually what proves Q is fake, because Q is always talking about this nonsense of them going to jail or whatever.
Trump truly is using his intelligence as a businessman to take out strategically to show the corrupt people in the intelligence agencies, the people Clapper and Brennan left behind, that he can do whatever he wants.
And what he's doing right now It's pinning the military against the corrupt intelligence, and that's why they're freaking out so much.
That's why immediately after these articles came out, another article came out of a Christmas card sent to Congress about Trump's assassination again, because that's Clapper and Brennan telling the media to start trying to poison everyone against Trump.
And so one of the other things going on here is Trump is— has full well knowledge that there's been this social unrest thing going on in Iran for a while.
One of the state leaders of the Gideons International for several years here has been—there's donkeys that go through Iran from Afghanistan to get heroin out of the country.
But on the way back to Afghanistan, the donkeys' bags are empty.
So the Gideons International started paying the drug cartels in Afghanistan to put Bibles— into the donkey bags and drop them in Iran.
And this man who's running this program, and the CIA knows about this program, is testifying that there is over 10 million Christians in Iran, in a country of only 80 million now.
That creates tremendous unrest.
So when you take out the primary corrupt general in the country, that gives the pretext for a revolution.
So what Trump is trying to do is He essentially appeased the, you know, like warmongers in the Pentagon and intelligence by saying, look, we can overthrow Iran, but we don't have to kill Americans in doing it.
And he is really an excellent leader because he's protecting American soldiers.
He's protecting American interests.
He's using his wisdom as a businessman to accomplish the goals of the United States without harming Americans.
And that makes him one of the best presidents in history.
owen shroyer
Well, and again, the strike, at least from what we've seen, the images, only hit the car that had the general in it.
I don't know who else was in it.
We don't have reports of that.
The car was totally annihilated.
But, you know, here's another thing, too.
I was fortunate in St.
Louis. St.
Lewis University has a very good foreign program.
So I've met people from Saudi Arabia, I've met people from Iran, I've met people from Iraq.
And you know, the average 22-year-old, 20-year-old Iranian, Iraqi, Saudi Arabian, they're just like us over here.
They know that there's corruption in their government.
They don't want to deal with it.
They just don't have the means to do anything about it.
And so they're in a unique situation.
And so we kind of lose that human element of it, I think, when we think about these countries and what they might be going through.
But time will tell as far as what a regime change may or may not mean and if that's going to happen in Iran and where Iran goes from here.
But thanks for the call, Richard.
Let's go to Jefferson in South Dakota.
Go ahead, Jefferson. No, South Dakota, guys.
Jefferson in South Dakota has been holding—there we go.
unidentified
Troyer, thanks for allowing me what Trump won't.
Which is my God-given First Amendment right.
owen shroyer
Are you censored on the internet there?
unidentified
I have been for a long time, and I've had a lot more things that I don't bother to bother you guys with.
But I think Pechenik is a total fraud.
And quite frankly, when I hear things like, Trump is the best president ever.
You know, I've got to be honest, man.
When you have a guy like Pachenik who says, yeah, if you lose your gun on the Alex Jones show in Virginia to a caller who is probably a broken man, yeah, just move to Florida when you lose your guns.
And Alex says, no, if they come for your guns, just give them your guns.
Yeah, I will say this.
Trump's a fraud. Get your gun.
I don't care if Infowars won't say it.
I have been through enough stuff in my life to know that anybody that gets on the air and talks about strategic assassination when our country's being dangled like a loose tooth and about to be totally destroyed by a bunch of criminals, did Trump raid Google today?
No, he didn't. Did Trump raid Facebook today?
No, he didn't. Did he raid Hillary today?
No, he didn't. Because he's a fraud.
And don't stop at Richmond.
Push to D.C. Push these people out.
They're fraud. Get your guns, America.
I'm sick of it. Yeah, go ahead.
Come to my house and arrest my ass.
I don't give a crap. All these pussies in the media.
I don't give a crap anymore.
Bunch of fraud! The CIA spooks!
owen shroyer
Well, look, Jefferson, I think I understand your frustrations.
We have a lot of the same frustrations.
And I understand why you'd be frustrated with some inaction from Trump.
But let me just correct the record.
Alex Jones said that in Virginia, given this certain political circumstances, he would not say, don't turn your guns in and start a hot war in that situation.
He'd say, turn them in to wake the rest of the country.
If you disagree with that, that's fine.
But So what is your main beef here?
So you think Trump is a total fraud?
Who would you rather have in 2020?
What do you think? Do we have another option or what?
unidentified
We've obviously got no options at this point because we have allowed the idea that people like a foreign-born CIA administrator that's a psych op Professional.
owen shroyer
Okay, Steve Pachinik doesn't run your life.
Steve Pachinik doesn't run our lives.
He's not the president. He's allowed to do political commentary.
Look, I get it. Google's out of control.
They're working with China. Shut them down, raid them, whatever.
I get it. Nancy Pelosi's a total...
Like, dude, I understand your frustration, man.
So it's like... I don't think you do.
You're right. My family doesn't get attacked.
I don't get personally attacked.
You know, I haven't been banned off the internet, too.
You know, they don't take away our money here.
They don't sue us every day, too.
I mean, dude, we're in this together.
I mean, I'm sorry if we're not hardcore enough.
I only stood up right in front of Congress and said the Democrats are committing treason.
I mean, take action, Jefferson.
I'm sorry. I get it. Yeah, it's dire straits out there.
We're in this together, brother.
But InfoWars and Steve Pachenik aren't your enemy.
Folks, it is being confirmed there have been more airstrikes By the U.S. This is all developing right now.
And there's some other weird stuff going on.
People are worried about a draft because of a FAFSA that they applied.
FAFSA that they applied for in their application.
Selective services on there.
They didn't know. There's all kinds of crazy developments.
And... Look...
I understand why Jefferson that just called in is upset.
Okay? If you listen to the war room, you'll know that a lot of the times I'm as upset as Jefferson is.
And I'm screaming and ranting and raving up here like a madman because, yeah, I get it, dude.
Like, the country's out of control.
Common sense is dead.
Logic is dead. Everything's totally corrupt and backwards.
Yeah, we're living in Satan's world.
Like, I get it, dude. I get it.
InfoWars is not your enemy.
Steve Pacinic is not your enemy.
And so, if you don't like Trump anymore, if you don't like what happened in this strike and you're done with Trump, then fine, that's on you.
I'm not ready to say that yet.
Yeah, I want Hillary Clinton's ass in jail.
Yeah, I want James Comey ass in jail.
I mean, it's like, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, and nobody else...
See, I get it, dude. I'm frustrated as you are.
Believe me. You don't think we're frustrated at the tip of this spear?
It's just like we're finally beginning to move the ball in our direction.
And yeah, if we're getting deceived, it's going to be a back break moment.
But the ball is moving forward.
America is waking up.
And I didn't get the chance to ask him this, but...
How do you explain the entire establishment being against Trump?
I mean, the hatred that Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler and Chuck Schumer and John Brennan and James Clapper have and Hillary Clinton have for Donald Trump, I mean, that's genuine.
And the news and all of it, I mean, that's real hatred.
That's real deception happening.
Again, I'm not saying Trump's perfect.
I'm not saying he's the be-all, end-all.
But, I mean, good Lord, he's not the one that created the situation in Iran.
He's not the one that lied about Russian collusion and Ukrainian quid pro quo and all this other garbage.
So yeah, I understand the frustration of people.
And it's almost like this.
It's like, if I don't come on air with the context of, hey, I don't want any more foreign interventions.
Hey, we've already spent $20 trillion in the Middle East.
It's enough. Then I'm a bad guy.
But like, that should be a given.
I mean, how many times do I have to say that?
So I wished, and obviously it's not happening because there's further plans happening.
I mean, literally developing right now, folks.
Strikes are happening. Targeted strikes.
So obviously the whole kill Soleimani and then pull the troops out dream is not going to happen.
Yeah, I want all the troops home.
I'm done in the Middle East.
I'm done everywhere.
Come protect our southern border.
Go raid Google for what they're doing with China.
Go investigate Nancy Pelosi.
I get it. I get it.
But, you know, my job here is to come on air and do play-by-play and color commentary of...
Current events and news and developments.
And I call it as I see it.
And that's all I'm doing here. And if you disagree, then you call in.
And the lines are stocked right now.
So, let's go to Paul in Las Vegas.
unidentified
Go ahead, Paul. The number one thing that we need to do is completely end our oil dependency on the Middle East.
We right now have patents for alternative energy, and if President Trump would release them, we could be off the oil by tomorrow.
Every one of our old cars, we can go hybrid electric cars, we can keep our old cars, we don't need to get rid of them.
What we need is for President Trump to release the patents that we have for alternative energy right now.
owen shroyer
I agree. And release it all.
I mean, he did this stuff with the experimental...
Surgeries and treatments for cancer and other such things.
That's been great. I think it's called, what is it?
A Chance to Live or something like that?
unidentified
I forgot about that. I want to pick a bone with your last guest, Steve Pachanik.
What he started to say, we could immediately flood the oil if we wanted to.
We have plenty of oil. But then he stopped and he said, but we don't want to do that because we don't want to hurt those.
And that right there is where you should have caught him and said, you know what?
Those are the people that we do want to hurt.
Those are the people that's been holding the American people down now.
Since the 1800s, you know what?
We have had alternative energy solutions that we could have had in play, and we would have never been over there in the first damn place.
This whole thing boils down to us having a dependency on their oil, and we don't have to be dependent on them for anything.
The water that is holding the ship up, that is floating the boat, has 2,400 more times potential energy than the boat that's carrying the oil.
You understand what I'm saying? The seawater, if we can burn the seawater, the byproduct is clean drinking water.
It puts off UV light, everything.
The whole deal of this, having to have oil, is just total bullshit.
It's been bullshit from the beginning.
owen shroyer
Alright, we gotta dump you. We gotta dump you.
Terrestrial Radio. We can't curse on the air.
Thanks for the call, Paul.
Let's go to Jasmine in Wisconsin.
unidentified
Go ahead, Jasmine. Hey, Big O. I wanted to ask you a question regarding the drone that took out General Salami.
Mm-hmm. Do you know anything about that drone?
owen shroyer
I believe it was a Reaper drone.
unidentified
Yeah. Have you ever heard of the flying Ginsu missile?
owen shroyer
I don't believe so.
unidentified
It's this new missile they came out with that instead of an explosion, it opens up in six...
Giant blades pop out of the nose cone and can chop through metal and obviously flesh.
I think that was used on the general.
owen shroyer
So then what caused the explosion at the end of it?
Does it explode? Is it kind of like a daisy cutter or something?
unidentified
Well, if it was a hellfire, I don't know if there would be anything left of him.
I think he would just be evaporated.
owen shroyer
So for identification purposes and also for collateral damage, Well, look, again, I'm not trying to create any conspiracy theories here, and you're calling in with your informed, you know, your education on these missiles and such.
It's just, I'm just looking at all the stuff, and something just isn't right.
I I don't understand it because the original show that the car he was in with who knows who else or if anyone else is in it and it's next to a wall and it blows up and it's on fire and then you see images of the said Soleimani body on the pavement but then we see images of his hand which they claim they used to identify because of the ring on grass and then you see images like this where the car is right up next to the guardrail on the grass instead of at the wall where it struck.
So why would it be moved?
Why were there no other cars around?
It's all very odd.
I'm just asking questions here.
unidentified
Yeah, I think they said multiple missiles were fired, so maybe it was a motorcade of vehicles.
owen shroyer
Also, obviously, when you hit anything with something that weighs so much, like the Flying Ginsu at that speed, it's going to make the gas Well, that would make more sense as to how they could ID the body, because the pics of the body that they at least are saying is the body, it looks like it was chopped up by a motorboat blade or something.
But you look at the car and you think, how could there be anything left of the guy's body when the car is so mangled and destroyed like that?
But you know what? We should just probably shut up and stop asking questions.
You know, that's what Google wants.
You know... Aside from the news, obviously, out of Iran and now developing more strikes happening north of Baghdad in the region, I think it just shows the insanity that we're all dealing with right now.
And it all kind of hinges on what Trump does.
Not that Trump's even that important as far as the humanity issue is concerned.
It's just he's like the focus point where...
All of a sudden, everybody is so concerned about Iran and all this stuff.
It's like, you know, Obama's been...
Obama bombed these countries for eight years.
Okay? And you never panicked then.
You never cared then. You never worried about Fukushima hitting your coast in California.
I mean, it's just all so fake.
It's all so contrived. It's all so ridiculous.
And that's not even me standing up for President Trump.
That's just me saying, why do these people blame everything on Trump?
He hasn't even been in office for the full term.
He's not the one that started these wars.
I mean, it's just like...
It's just infuriating because the average person looks at Hollywood responding to this and is like, oh my gosh, Trump is literally the worst person ever.
Trump is literally Hitler. I mean, it's just...
And then it's like, these are the same people that want to have wide open borders.
Well, if you're so afraid of oncoming war, why would you want open borders?
Someone walk right across with a, you know, God knows what, suitcase bomb, suitcase nuke even.
And so I'm just sick of the lunacy.
I'm sick of people being so...
I don't even want to say it, but...
It's just painful to see where humanity's gone.
And I'm not even trying to be negative here either.
Because it really is turning a new leaf.
You see it and you're just reminded of the disgust.
It's like if you've got a really busted up toe or something...
And you don't see it because your shoe's on all day and then you take your shoe and your sock off and you see it and you're like, oh my gosh, I forgot about that.
It's disgusting. That's kind of like what it is every time Trump does anything and you see Hollywood come out and the music industry come out and all these people and it's just like, you are the most degenerative, low-class, pathetic people that have influence ever, probably in the history of the world.
But then they make people so scared of World War III because of President Trump.
This is nothing new.
It's just finally we have an American president that's trying to stand up for America.
It doesn't mean everything he does is right.
He's obviously being misled and lied to and probably taking in just as much propaganda as we are.
I'm sorry. It's just...
I just see the responses from people and it's just not fair.
It's not just. It's not just to ignore all the crap...
That you've been ignoring for 10 plus years and then just try to put it all on Trump's lap like it's his fault.
And then you think you're so intellectual because it goes viral because the whole entire entertainment media conglomerate corporation is on your side.
And then you don't even realize that you're a brainwashed pawn of the New World Order.
Like Cardi B. You know what?
I actually like Rose McGowan.
Who knows what kind of drug she was on.
And look, people don't want war, okay?
I get it. It's just funny because, again, all these things have been going on for so long.
The conflicts in the Middle East, the corruption of the American civilization, the selling out of our production of goods and services to China, the Starting all these foreign wars, these fake wars with false narratives and using American news corporations to do it so nobody trusts the media.
Having Congress go along with it so nobody trusts Congress.
It's been going on for decades and then Trump gets in and it's like, oh my gosh, it's all Trump's fault!
Trump's the worst person ever!
And I get it. They're coming for the guns.
Trump's not doing anything. They're coming for free speech.
Trump's not doing anything. They're continuing foreign wars and Trump's part of it.
I get it. I get it.
But it's not all Trump's fault.
And to sit here and point the finger at Trump is ludicrous.
If anything, point the finger at yourself for letting it happen for so long.
All right, let me go back to the phone lines.
Let's go to Danny in Oregon.
unidentified
Go ahead, Danny. Hey, Owen.
Good to talk to you, man.
You know, actually, you just mentioned what I was going to talk about today.
Rose McGowan's tweet.
You know, I don't really know much about her.
I honestly had to ask my wife.
I was like, who is that? She's somebody.
So... I responded to it, and within, I want to say it was probably about 60 seconds, I was suspended from Twitter with the only option to delete the tweet if I ever wanted to come back, basically.
And, I mean, I can tell you what I said.
I don't think it was really meriting suspension.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you saw what she said, that, you know, the 52% of the American population would like to apologize to Iran.
Please don't kill us all.
I don't know. I'm sure you saw that, correct?
owen shroyer
Yes, right. Yeah, we have it on screen here.
unidentified
Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah, so I responded and I just said, well, you know, why don't you put on a burqa, chop off your genitals, and take yourself over to Iran out of my country?
I'm sure they wouldn't stone you for your Instagram.
I was pretty much suspended within probably about 60 seconds, which...
I don't see anything hateful about that.
owen shroyer
No, it's obviously sarcasm based in truth, but yeah, you can't do that.
unidentified
No, you can't talk about Sharia law and the fact that they mutilate the genitals of the female people in Middle Eastern countries.
And not to mention, you know, they hate gay people and want to throw them off of rooftops.
owen shroyer
Look, and again, though, I just want to be clear here.
I actually feel bad for Rose McGowan.
I kind of like her. She was actually on a real crusade to stop all the sexual abuse that goes on in Hollywood.
And when she found out that it was really just a political stunt to get rid of Trump, she basically had a total collapse.
I mean, that's what really happened to Rose McGowan.
And then she's like, well, what's happening?
Nothing's really happening in Hollywood.
You guys are just focused on Trump now.
And it's like, yeah, that was the agenda, Rose.
Don't you get it? And so she learned the hard way, I think, and just, you know, kind of went a little bonkers.
unidentified
Right. And like I said, I don't necessarily, I don't even know who she was.
But now that you mention that, I do remember her name from, you know, trying to expose a lot of the Hollywood, uh, You know, sexual deviance and, you know, hats off to her for that.
owen shroyer
And that's what I'm saying, too.
That's what I'm saying, too. Danny, thanks for the call.
I'm so glad you said that because it really is exactly like the Me Too movement, all of this outrage at Trump.
It's the same thing. Like, the Me Too movement is like, oh yeah, because of Trump.
Trump's not the one!
Trump's not the one trafficking kids across the border of Haiti!
Trump's not the one in Hollywood!
Trump's not the one, you know, I mean, that's what I'm saying.
unidentified
It's like the same thing, like, oh, Trump's starting World War III! Oh my gosh!
It's like, oh, Trump is starting the B2. He can't keep his hands off of women.
owen shroyer
It's like, no, that's Biden and kids.
No, that's Harvey Weinstein.
It's like, no, that's Bill Clinton.
Man, it's just, it's the same.
It's so low IQ and it just frustrates me so much.
It's like the same thing with the ring.
It's like people, oh, it's the same ring.
No, it's not. No, it's not.
Aren't people blind and deaf and dumb and stupid?
And yes, they are because of the chemicals, the food and water.
I'm sorry. It's just, ah, Nathan in Canada, go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, Owen. If the crew can bring up the Super Blue toothpaste deal for buy two regular Super Blue, get a bubblegum tube free, get that, people.
I prefer the bubblegum myself.
Let's lighten it up here a little bit on a Friday afternoon.
The Democrats are playing a bunch of games, right?
The first one they're playing is their own game of Simon Says.
You know, Simon Says, touch your nose.
Well, instead, it's Sondland says.
Well, if Sondland didn't say it, it didn't happen.
owen shroyer
No, that is it.
It really is like Simon says.
The Democrats said it, so then do it.
Like, the Democrats say, start confronting Trump supporters and, you know, form a crowd, assault them.
unidentified
Well, it started happening. And secondly, just like slow-pitch softball, the Democrats get the mercy rule after five failed impeachment attempts per presidential term.
The Dems have to take the field.
owen shroyer
Well, and look, again, let me go back to the caller that was upset.
Dude, I agree. Trump needs to do more.
I'm not fighting with you, dude.
It's just like, again, Trump is not my enemy.
Final segment of today's War Room.
I don't want to pontificate too much because I want to go back to your calls.
It's just, I want to explain the source of my frustration here because I just have a sense of kinship with Donald Trump Because I understand what it's like to be demonized and lied about all day long and then just have people who really don't know any better think that you're something you're not.
I mean, you've seen it all.
I've got articles written about me.
Oh, I'm a Jewish shill.
I'm a Nazi. I'm a this.
I'm a that. I'm none of them.
I'm just Owen Schroer.
I'm just true to God, my creator.
I'm true to my family and the way they raised me.
I'm true to my friends and who they know I am.
And so... When I see the attacks on Trump, I have the deeper understanding that that's an attack on me and my character because it's the same people doing it.
It's the same people lying about Trump that lie about me.
And even if it's not, it's still the same realm.
And so seeing all these people coming out blaming Trump for all this, oh, Trump's going to start World War III, oh, Trump, how dare he do this, and just ignore all the corruption, it's just so...
It's beyond frustrating.
It's beyond infuriating.
Because these people are all phonies at the end of the day.
Okay? And to sit here...
And get lectured by Hollywood that promotes total sexual degeneracy.
Total, just total degeneracy.
Drug abuse, sex abuse.
Just abuse the temple that God gave you, your body.
And objectify yourself and poison yourself and poison the youth and poison the culture.
That's Hollywood. Okay?
Okay? It's the establishment politicians.
It's the establishment bureaucrats.
It's the establishment media lying us into wars.
Getting the American people behind fake wars.
They've been doing it for decades.
Trump's not a part of that.
And look, I've said it a dozen times.
Trump is either the white knight, the dark knight, or the dark prince.
Some people might think he's the Dark Prince after seeing what's happening in Iran.
But I'm not going to sit here and have the entire corrupt establishment that promotes abortion, that promotes total depravity, lecture me about Trump.
Or point the finger at me like I'm bad because I got a loud voice and I'm not afraid of free speech.
And it just makes me sick.
It really makes me sick.
Because they get to sit up there in Hollywood and their ivory towers and they get to sit up there on CNN and MSNBC with all their big fake television audiences and their big contracts and point the finger at us.
And I'm done with it, man.
I'm done with it.
Oh, look. Oprah has Soleimani's ring on.
We found it again. Seriously.
I mean, there it is. I'm just done with it.
I'm done being lectured.
By the most degenerate people in our society.
I'm so fed up with it.
And I'm so fed up with Trump being positioned as the boogeyman.
I'm done, man.
Not saying Trump's perfect.
Not saying I don't disagree.
I criticize Trump all the time.
But my goodness, Trump is not the devil.
Trump is not the problem.
You know what? I probably can't even get out what I'm trying to say.
So let me just take your calls again.
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Let's go to Jeff in Canada.
unidentified
Go ahead, Jeff. Hey, Owen.
jeff in vancouver
Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I think, you know, with Trump, you really have to put all the positive things he's done on one side of the scale, and if he makes mistakes, which every human does, right?
And I don't know if he's being manipulated or if this is the right move.
owen shroyer
And, you know, sorry to interrupt, but, you know, we can do that in kind of like, you know, a pro and con thing, and that's a great exercise to do, but that's actually not even what I'm trying to get to.
It's just they sit here and they act like Trump's the worst thing ever, like, oh, Trump's the worst thing to ever have to America and humanity, and it's like, No, man.
You guys are the ones pushing pedophilia.
You guys are the ones sexualizing the kids.
You guys are the ones.
You're the one promoting degeneracy.
You're the one promoting drug abuse.
I'm just so fed up with it, man.
I'm so fed up with the Hollywood hypocrisy.
I'm so fed up with the fake news media.
I'm just at a wit's end.
jeff in canada
When you look at the left, I mean, it's all bad.
jeff in vancouver
Everything they do is all bad.
jeff in canada
And Trump's done a lot of good for a lot of people.
jeff in vancouver
And, you know, it is what it is.
And, you know, your caller, a little while ago, they were pretty upset and whatnot.
And I think young kids growing up nowadays, you know, it's got to be upsetting to look out into the world and see what's going on.
So I got one other point, but I just wanted to say, you know, Jesus said, you know, in this world you'll have tribulation, but take heart, I've overcome the world.
jeff in canada
And, you know...
jeff in vancouver
For whoever's really kind of freaking out in these times, there's a place to have internal peace.
jeff in canada
You're not going to find external peace in the world.
jeff in vancouver
Jesus said that. He doesn't lie.
But you can't have internal peace on the inside.
Not telling anybody what to do, just telling you what God's done for you.
jeff in canada
So with that, I just wanted to say, what you were talking about earlier about observation and seeing that ring and just kind of getting a funny vibe about it, I got a funny vibe, you know, when I saw that there's a video released there with that tremendously long flag.
jeff in vancouver
I mean, it was just on and on and on.
owen shroyer
I don't even know how long it was. Yeah, and that was the video that they claim was from Iran where people were celebrating the death of Soleimani.
jeff in canada
Yeah, and I don't know, but...
jeff in vancouver
All I know is this.
It's hard to track everything.
I kind of get a headache trying to track it.
But in a lot of these AstroTurf things, there's all these posters that look like they just came out of staples on corkboard and stuff like that.
jeff in canada
So there's so much out there and so many moving parts.
jeff in vancouver
I really appreciate all the different points of view today.
And I think we just have to not try and figure it out in one day, but just let it sit.
And then just go for the interim.
owen shroyer
And that's it exactly.
And here's the video you're talking about.
And that's it exactly.
And that's why, I mean, look, we come on here, folks.
We don't have teleprompters.
We don't have agendas. We're just raw in real time with like a computer system just operating.
And so, yeah, some of the times, kind of like, you know, I've said this before, it's like with mass shootings.
Like I hate being live after a mass shooting because we don't have all the answers, but everybody wants all the answers.
And so you have to kind of tread lightly there.
That's kind of what we're dealing with now.
Jeff, thanks for the call. Let's go to Jefferson in Virginia.
Go ahead, Jefferson. Thanks, Owen.
unidentified
Happy Friday. Well, it is Friday.
jefferson in virginia
I think we're all frustrated because we realize we've reached the conundrum of the baby Hitler killing moment.
We all realize we have an enemy.
It's a baby Hitler.
It's preemptive. And we need to kill it.
And nobody wants to kill a baby.
Explain that. You know what I'm getting at here?
Well, the conundrum is, if you knew Hitler was going to kill 6 million people, would you kill him as a baby if you could travel in time?
owen shroyer
What's the Hitler baby, though?
jefferson in virginia
Ralph Northam in Virginia.
owen shroyer
Okay, I see what you're saying.
As a larger issue.
jefferson in virginia
He's a baby killer.
owen shroyer
Right? Right? No, it's like we know what Democrat policies are going to do.
I'm not saying kill anybody.
Obviously, this is just—you're making an analogy here.
It's like, yeah, we know what Democrat policies are going to do, so are we just supposed to sit here and take them?
Are we just supposed to sit here and let the Democrats do it?
Now, that might be a separate issue than what you're talking about.
That's just the analogy that came to my head.
jefferson in virginia
Right. What I'd like to see Infowars do is make a shirt out of a post— Birth, abortion baby holding a gun to baby Hitler Northam's head, saying, are you comfortable?
I don't think I am.
owen shroyer
You know what? I actually am going to put out a PSA, hopefully soon, but it's going to be really powerful, and it's kind of like what you just illustrated on a t-shirt, but it's going to be like a minute-long PSA. So keep your eye out for that, Jefferson. Thanks for the call. I've got to take one more.
Alex in Florida, go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Owen, so me and you, we both like talk radio, and I'm an up-and-coming talk radio host, and we meet at a convention in Virginia, and I say to you, hey, Owen, man, I thought you were excellent.
Come back and hang out with me at my house.
There's two beautiful girls with us.
We go back to my house, and we close the door hanging out.
All of a sudden, we hear a knock on the door, and you go and look out at the people, and you look back at me, and you say, it's the ATF. And I say, hey girls, go back in the bedroom.
You tossed me a 9mm.
And I look at you and I say, what are we going to do next?
We open the door.
They say, we're here on behalf of Ralph Northam to confiscate your firearms.
and you do what?
owen shroyer
You know, that's the type of situation where I would say you're really just at your will in real time.
I tend to kind of agree with Alex at this political juncture not to start a shooting war, but that's not my call, and I hope I never have to make that decision.
But that is an infringement, and let's hope this doesn't pop off.
You stay classy, InfoWarriors.
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unidentified
People won't listen to me because I got too much data.
As much as I do or more, Joe, and you sit there and act like you don't know, because you're afraid to give your audience all the information.
Yeah, but you know what? What are you saying?
alex jones
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Hey, Joe. No!
unidentified
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