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The fight for the future is now.
This is The War Room with Owen Schroer at InfoWars.com forward slash show.
harrison smith
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
This is The War Room.
My name is Harrison Smith, sitting in today for Owen Schroer as he takes a very well-deserved break from broadcasting.
I will be joined by a succession of amazing guests this hour.
I got one for each hour.
Welcome to my show!
In the approval rating of Donald Trump breaking 50%, 52%, the Democrats are saying, we're not sure if it's a disaster, but it's definitely not good.
Well, it looks good from where I'm sitting.
We also have God Emperor Trump making his appearance towering five stories above the streets of Italy.
We'll show you some of that footage as well.
Very cool stuff. Lots of stuff going on in Europe.
We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Yellow Vest protest this weekend.
We'll talk about what's going on with Roger Stone.
We'll talk about the Democrats' plans to take down Trump and their ongoing war against free speech.
We'll cover it all. Don't worry.
Just stay with us here at The War Room, infowars.com forward slash show.
But first, I want to go to this report by our very own Greg Reese, big brother down under.
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greg reese
Let's begin. Australia has become a testing ground for Google.
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And now they are filtering the news for the entire country.
An Australian watchdog group wanted to see Google's algorithms, but Google denied them.
The fight for freedom has never been more grave.
And now, more than ever, the world needs you.
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I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
Thomas Jefferson.
alex jones
We are under attack!
greg reese
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TurboForce. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to The War Room.
harrison smith
It is the 11th of February, 2019.
I'm Harrison Smith sitting in for Owen Schroer as he takes a well-deserved few days off.
We'll be right back.
A little bit higher energy.
People aren't just waking up.
You've had the whole day to get used to maybe Alex yelling.
I'm going to maybe do a little bit more yelling.
I'm a little bit angry at what's going on in my country, so we'll see how that goes.
I have Roger Stone joining me in the first hour, Ali Alexander joining me in the second hour, and in the third hour, Anomaly will join me.
It is a star-studded show today, and it will be packed to the gills with We're good to talk to you, Roger. Well, thank you very much.
roger stone
You know, I was watching you on the David Knight Show, and I think you're doing a great job.
But I think you should start calling yourself Harrison Smythe.
I think it would kind of upgrade your whole public image.
By the way, outstanding neckwear today, Harrison.
harrison smith
This is it, folks. Mark it on the calendar.
This is the first time I have gotten my tie approved of by Roger Stone.
Thank you very much.
That really means a lot to me.
roger stone
Very, very tasty.
Well, it's been an extraordinary week.
Interestingly enough, even though it has been firmly established that CNN was permitted to set up a camera tripod and film my arrest the Friday before last in a stunning pre-dawn raid in which 29 heavily armed FBI agents arrived in 17 vehicles,
including two armored vehicles, a helicopter, and an amphibious unit on the canal behind my house To take me into custody because I'm charged with a series of non-violent process crimes that all allegedly took place after the 2016 election.
What the mainstream media doesn't seem to tell you, Harrison, is that I don't own a gun because in the state of Florida, one cannot own both a firearm and a medicinal marijuana card.
I don't own a valid passport.
And the idea that I was a flight risk is disproved by the fact that a federal magistrate allowed me to be released essentially on my own signature without cash bond.
But then there's the nagging question of why, if I am so dangerous, CNN was permitted to set up a tripod and film my arrest a mere 25 feet from my front door.
In fact, Alex Jones was the first person to show the world the actual security camera video that shows FBI agents essentially directing the CNN shoot.
Here's what the video showed.
We know for an absolute fact that CNN arrived roughly 50 minutes before the FBI, and we know that they took their cameras out roughly nine minutes before the FBI arrived at my home.
Now, we also know that a CNN reporter emailed, pardon me, texted a copy of my arrest warrant to one of my lawyers, and in fact, my attorney learned from a CNN reporter that I had been arrested.
Not the government, but yes, CNN. So it's very clear that CNN had a copy of my indictment prior to it being unsealed.
Now, Anderson Cooper, who I kind of like, calls that a conspiracy theory.
Well, Anderson, in the days ahead, it will be proven that the special counsel's office leaked my indictment to CNN and that that is, of course, highly illegal.
No, there is no conspiracy theory, only hard, cold fact.
The bottom line of this is now, Harrison, that a federal judge appointed by Barack Obama, who is overseeing my case, wants to impose a gag rule against me in which I would not be permitted to exercise my First Amendment right to defend myself in public.
Now, I would argue that the two years of insidious Assault on my home,
in which armed FBI agents burst into my bedroom to take my wife into custody and remove her from the house, even though she is not charged with any crime, and she is both hearing impaired and was taken out in the street in her night clothing, barefooted, is so outrageous and abusive that the American people don't like the taste and look of this.
That was done to depict me as guilty before I had an opportunity to produce evidence and prove my innocence.
No, they're the ones who are poisoning the jury pool, so my lawyers have vigorously objected to the proposed gag rule that the judge discussed.
The judge also admonished me that this was not a book tour.
I'm not planning any book tour.
I have a new copy called The Myth of Russian Collusion coming out, which is a paperback version with an updated introduction of my previous book, The Making of the President, 2016, but I propose no book tour.
On the other hand, I hate watching the mainstream media depicting me like El Chapo or Pablo Escobar I could have saved the federal taxpayers a half million dollars.
The special counsel knows I was represented, and they could have simply contacted my lawyer, in which case I would have turned myself in.
The other night, Tucker Carlson showed the same video that Alex Jones premiered earlier in the day, and when arrested, I was wearing this.
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It's amazing that Alex Jones was the only journalist on the planet willing to show you exactly what happened at my home when the police state launched this Gestapo-type raid I made, which was completely and totally unnecessary.
Their claim that I would destroy evidence, which there is no evidence of, is ridiculous in view of the fact that I've been forthright about the fact that the government has been investigating me for over two years, and there was always the high possibility that they would frame me in some kind of political indictment.
By the way, Harrison, I've destroyed no evidence.
I've tampered with no evidence.
And that's why this was completely unnecessary.
If the idea was to intimidate me, well, as you can see, I'm not intimidated.
Thanks for letting me speak my piece on the opening segment here at The War Room.
I'm delighted that you're filling in for my pal Owen Troyer, and we'll be right back.
harrison smith
Roger Stone, ladies and gentlemen.
Can't keep a good man down.
We'll be right back after this with more from Roger Stone, more of what's going on in Washington.
Trump is on his way to the border.
We'll fill you in when we get back.
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War Room.
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All right, welcome back to The War Room, ladies and gentlemen.
harrison smith
Paris Smith sitting in for Owen Shroyer.
Roger Stone is joining me.
And, Roger, I've got to get your input on this.
You know, the news moves so fast these days that, you know, they held this hearing for Matt Whitaker on Friday.
And by Monday, it's like, God, that's old news.
Should I even cover this?
You know, I mean, that was three days ago.
A whole... Whole worlds have been born and died since then in the world of news and just all these insane headlines and goings on.
But we need to focus on this.
We need to pay attention to this because it really lays out what's going on with the Democratic Party, what their plan is for Trump as they move forward.
It shows in stark reality just how...
How unhinged the Democratic Party is.
And so over the weekend I was compiling clips of this just outrageous hearing that the Democrats held with Matt Whitaker.
Luckily, I get in and John Bowne has already done it for me.
He's already put together the compilation of the clips with a little bit of commentary.
So I want to go to that now.
And then on the other side, I want to hear Roger Stone's breakdown of it and how this plays into what's going on in the future.
Because just to lay the groundwork a little bit, I think the Democrats are expecting the Mueller report to come out very soon.
And they're expecting it to be a big old, and I hate this word, nothing burger.
You'll never hear me say that word again.
But I think they're expecting it to be absolutely nothing, so they're laying the groundwork to continue to fight against Trump without the excuse of Russia collusion.
I think that's the groundwork. Just keep that in mind.
As we go to this clip, which you can find on Infowars.com, Whitaker faces angry Democratic mob.
unidentified
But in my view, your conduct, including your decision to ignore important ethics advice when you became acting attorney general, no matter the consequences, falls well short of the mark.
This hearing is pointless, and basically it was made even more pointless by the chairman's opening statement.
This is not about what the good men and women at the Department of Justice are doing.
This is not about FBI agents who are doing their job.
jon bowne
Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker faced the mob, intent on damaging the president and engaging in more character assassination.
hakeem jeffries
Mr. Whitaker, thank you for your presence here today.
This hearing is important because there are many Americans throughout the country who are confused.
I'm confused. I really am.
We're all trying to figure out who are you, where did you come from, and how the heck did you become the head of the Department of Justice?
So hopefully you can help me work through this confusion.
unidentified
All right, well, I mean, Congressman, not...
hakeem jeffries
Mr. Whitaker, that was a statement, not a question.
I assume you know the difference.
unidentified
So these parents were in your custody, your attorneys are prosecuting them, and your department was not tracking parents who were separated from their children.
Do you know what kind of damage has been done to children and families across this country?
Children who will never get to see their parents again.
Do you understand the magnitude of that?
The DOJ should look like the country.
And you all have been here twice, and it is not a fair representation of what makes this country great.
At the beginning of this, you know, we were told that this is about asking about DOJ oversight and some legitimate questions.
And here we are.
It's nothing but character assassination, harassment of our witness.
You filed ethics complaints against Republicans.
Can you tell me which Republicans you filed ethics complaints against?
All of, again, you know, I'm here for an oversight hearing.
Yes, you are. And so my questions are leading to that.
So can you answer that?
Which Republicans did you file investigation or ask for ethics investigations of?
The nice thing about being an ethics watchdog group is that FACT filed all of its complaints on its website, and I would refer you to that.
I don't have time to look into the website.
I'm asking you a question now.
You were the executive director.
Which Republicans did you file?
jon bowne
Two competing realities concerning the legitimacy of the Mueller investigation clashed repeatedly.
unidentified
Have there been any discussions at the department about pardons for Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, or Michael Cohen?
Congressman, we have a very well-worn system that the president doesn't follow.
hakeem jeffries
One by one, all of the president's men are going down in flames.
It's often said where there's smoke, there's fire, there's a lot of smoke emanating from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue right now.
The investigation into Russia's attack on our democracy is not a witch hunt, it's not a fishing expedition, it's not a hoax.
It's not a lynch mob. It's a national security imperative.
The fact that people suggest otherwise comes dangerously close to providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
unidentified
Mr. Attorney General, we're not joking here.
And your humor is not acceptable.
We're seeing so many of the Trump organizations being indicted.
And with the short time that I have, I want to make sure that your questions are answered in a yes or no matter.
This is the first oversight hearing we have had in the Justice Department almost 15 months.
You did not have a confirmation hearing and you have not yet appeared for an oversight hearing, yes or no?
Yes or no? Congresswoman, I am the acting...
Yes or no? Have you appeared before an oversight hearing in the Congress?
Congresswoman, I have not...
It has been 10 years before.
Witness will answer the question as asked, please.
Mr. Chairman. Mr.
Chairman, if the department's inquiry, if he feels that a yes or no is appropriate, he'll answer a yes or no.
If he does not feel it's appropriate, he should be able to answer it as many Democrat administration officials have done before this committee before.
That is unreal. The member has only five minutes, and if she wants a yes or no answer, she's entitled to it.
I will not allow the witness to stall and waste members' time.
Where were you when Mr.
Holder were here? Yes or no, sir?
As I previously answered, Congresswoman, I have not discussed...
Yes or no? I am asking the question, sir.
Answer the question, yes or no.
Could you repeat the question, please?
You wouldn't oversee a witch hunt, would you?
You'd stop a witch hunt, wouldn't you?
Congressman, it would be inappropriate for me to talk about an ongoing investigation.
You said that you're not interfering with the special counsel's investigation.
Have you denied him any funds he's requested at all?
Congressman, I can tell this is an important issue for you.
It's an important issue for the American public and for the whole world.
Mr. Chairman, can you and I engage in a call?
Can we suspend the call and you and I engage?
No, no, no. We're in the middle of the...
Point of order, Mr. Chairman, is the ranking member just going to continue to interrupt when he doesn't like the flow of questions?
Excuse me. I'll probably bank a point of order when that needs to be made.
It would be useful if it was actually a point of order.
jon bowne
After President Trump criticized the hearing, tweeting, the Democrats in Congress yesterday were vicious and totally showed their cards for everyone to see.
When the Republicans had the majority, they never acted with such hatred and scorn.
The Dems are trying to win an election in 2020 that they know they cannot legitimately vote.
Eric Holder, the only attorney general in U.S. history held in contempt of Congress, responded, tweeting, Are you out of your mind?
Your people now simply can't defend their record or actions.
This coming from an attorney general who couldn't defend himself on Fast and Furious.
unidentified
If they go low, we kick them.
The gentlelady has the floor.
The gentlelady will continue.
Thank you. I was not through with my point of order.
Gentle lady, we can feel the ruling in the chair.
jon bowne
This is what our tax dollars are funding.
A growing socialist Democrat mob.
John Bowne reporting.
harrison smith
So that's John Bowne just exposing the absolute insanity going on in the Democratic Party.
The abuse that they hurl against this man who was leaving the office in less than a week.
And yet they throw insults and just disrespect him like that.
We're going to get Roger Stone's response on the other side.
Nobody breaks down the Democratic hypocrisy and just lying, trash humanity that is the Democratic Party better than Roger Stone on the other side.
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roger stone
I'm Roger Stone.
Yes, public enemy number one, if you believe the orchestrations of the FBI and Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
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I'm here joined by my colleague Harrison Smythe, as he's now known, who is filling in for Owen Schroer.
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Harrison? You know, Roger, I have to second that endorsement for Stone's Rules because, you know, I was hosting for David Knight for a little while and I thought, you know, these people are going to they're going to catch on to me eventually and realize I don't have that many suits.
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roger stone
Now, Roger, let me point out, Harrison, that the way you have your pocket square folded in the pocket is the exact same way President Ronald Reagan always wore his.
It's a natty look that's always proper and correct.
harrison smith
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On the other side, we get into just exactly what's happening with Donald Trump, why he's going to the border later today, and all the other news you need to know at the MSM won't tell you.
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harrison smith
Final segment of the first hour with Roger Stone.
Ali Alexander joins me in studio in the second hour, and then in the third hour I will be joined by Anomaly, YouTuber personality that's very interesting and you will not want to miss, but Roger...
What is going on in D.C. right now?
Because I have my own interpretation of exactly what's happening.
We saw the way that the Democrats treated Matt Whitaker there on Friday, just tearing into him, despite the fact that he wasn't even going to be in office less than a week later, now that William Barr is going to be confirmed for that position.
But here I have headlines.
Elizabeth Warren suggests that Trump's going to prison by 2020.
He may not even be a free person.
Maxine Waters ranting about Trump, saying, we're going to get your tax returns.
Adam Schiff questioning the depth of Mueller's probe into Trump.
And Deutsche Bank, you know, my interpretation of this is, look, they know that there's nothing to find.
They know that the Mueller report is going to come up empty.
They know it's going to come out soon. They're laying the groundwork to say, yeah, you know, maybe that didn't work, but we're going to get them on other stuff.
We're going to keep digging. We're going to get his tax returns.
We're going to do all that. They just want to continue this fight on despite the fact that they don't have a leg to stand on.
Is that the same interpretation you have, Roger, or do you think something else is going on here behind the scenes?
roger stone
Well, I pretty much agree.
I do think that the House Democrats are out of control.
They're drunk with their new power.
Frankly, I'm looking forward to the fact that Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell and others will definitely be called by my legal defense team because They were present when I allegedly was less than truthful with the House Intelligence Committee.
I'm sure there'll be a number of Republican and Democratic members called to testify under oath because I will make an alternative case.
I'm not going to try my case here on the war room.
But what you saw there was unalloyed posturing and hate.
Sheila Jackson can barely string together a sentence coherently.
And I would suggest in all honesty that the Trump-admitted officials treat the House Democrats subpoenas much in the way that Eric Holder treated subpoenas from the Republicans.
I mean, there's no reason to go up there and be subjected to those kind of personal attacks.
They have nothing.
Two years, $40 million of tax money.
Where is the Russian collusion?
Yet they continue to cast dispersions against our president and his family, even though they are empty-handed.
An extraordinary piece in The Hill yesterday by John Solomon that must be read proves that there was indeed extensive Russian collusion in the 2016 election.
Unfortunately, it was all by Hillary Clinton and her top aides.
There is a textbook roadmap to the treason that was committed during the 2016 election, including the largest treasonous crime in American history, a financial crime called Uranium One.
Mr. Solomon, who may be one of the best investigative reporters in the country, laid it out, chapter, and verse.
The New York Times broke this story, but they never made the entire connection.
The truth is, Bill and Hillary Clinton collected $145 million from board members of the Russian state-owned energy company at the exact time that 20% of America's enriched uranium was isolated.
To the Russians. And therefore, the Clintons engaged in treasonous, profitable, lucrative activity that violated the law.
The federal government, the Justice Department, under the supervision of Rod Rosenstein, knew that the Russian Energy Company had paid massive bribes to various public officials in the United States, but they allowed the deal to go forward anyway.
Why President Donald Trump has not appointed a special counsel or directed his attorney general, in this case his acting attorney general, to appoint a special counsel to investigate this treasonous crime is a mystery.
It's very hard for me to understand.
Instead, what we've seen are the baseless accusations against me and against the president.
I will be vindicated in court and I will fight to clear my name, but I need info warriors and indeed all patriots who support the president to go to stonedefensefund.com.
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Robert Mueller and the deep state have an unlimited budget of your tax dollars in platoons of snotty Ivy League lawyers who want to put me in jail for the simple crime of supporting Donald Trump for president, helping defeat Hillary Clinton, and yes, appearing on Infowars.
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We rely totally and completely on the InfoWars audience and your loyal patronage at the InfoWars.com store.
As I said in the earlier segments, the continuation of Infowars as a vibrant, robust internet presence, as the leading media organization on the right, is a vital part of my strategy today.
So please be generous.
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Harrison, I'm not sure where you want to go with this other than to say that Matt Whitaker is a good man and that nobody should have to put up with that kind of abuse.
Jerry Nadler has taken literally thousands of dollars from Google.
He's a paid-for stooge who claims That efforts by Google to disadvantage conservatives in their searches and in their internet activities are a white-wing conspiracy theory.
That, despite the fact that we've seen both videos and internal emails that prove that that is exactly what's happening.
Jerry Nadler has nothing short of removing this president in mind.
And if he does so, I think he will spark another American revolution.
We're not going to have a silent coup in America.
Not again. The American people voted in it.
A free democratic election.
And whether you're Anna Navarro, porquita as I call her, 150 pounds of garbage in a 75 pound bag, inarticulate, unqualified and not very intelligent, or whether you're Jerry Nadler or Sheila Jackson, you better get used to the fact that Donald Trump is your president and he's going to be your president for another two years and quite probably another six years.
harrison smith
Yeah. Well, hey, Roger, while we have you, just for the last couple of minutes here, there are a couple of things about your case that I haven't gotten to talk to you about that I really would love to mention.
I mean, the most outrageous thing to me is the fact that Apple, there are reports that they've handed over your iCloud to the FBI. That I find absolutely outrageous.
But I want to ask, I mean, this has been a sort of Damocles that they've had dangling over your head for two years, just waiting for it to drop.
Now that the indictments come down, now that you know what you're dealing with, is there some sort of, OK, now I can actually fight.
Now I have it in front of me and I know what I'm what I'm up against.
Is there is there any sort of, you know, OK, you know, it's no longer this vague sort of threat in the air.
But now you have something to face and something to fight and exactly what they're what they're charging you with.
So, you know, exactly what to fight against.
Is there some sort of, you know, vindication there or a spirit like that?
roger stone
Well, I mean, the mainstream media has to answer a question.
Where's the Russian collusion?
Where's the WikiLeaks collaboration?
They've reported again and again that I was an intermediary or a connection between WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign.
Yet I'm not accused of that because that is not true.
And there is no evidence to that effect.
So they have constructed a series of process crimes that are highly fabricated.
I'm not going to review the specifics here other than to say I'll do my talking in court.
But this is a political prosecution.
And where is the beef, as they say?
When will Ari Melber and Jake Tapper admit that there's no there there?
Where is the Russian collusion, as I said earlier?
So, yes, but the stress on my family has been extraordinary.
Thank you.
Thank goodness. I love peanut butter and jelly.
Folks can help my legal defense, but that doesn't pay my living expenses.
I will soldier on.
Thank God for Infowars and the hearty crew of patriots there who supported me and sustained me through this difficult time.
I want to thank everybody who's given to my legal defense fund, who's bought a t-shirt or a Roger Stone or sent a contribution.
I appreciate your prayers.
I appreciate your support.
I appreciate your well wishes.
And with your help and with the support of InfoWars as an important platform for my public defense, we will be victorious.
Thank you and God bless you.
Harrison Smyke, carry on.
harrison smith
Godspeed, Roger Stone.
Great to talk to you.
And Ali Alexander joins me in studio on the other side.
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jon bowne
For years, the SPLC's bullying of conservatives and typical everyday Americans amounted to that of an annoying blood-sucking mosquito.
But the temptation of that untapped vein appears to be leading to the downfall of the SPLC. Since the early 1970s, SPLC founder Morris Deese had fed on the civil rights victory of wrestling down the last remnants of the Democratic Party creation known as the Ku Klux Klan.
Drinking from its wealthy liberal donors, Which also led to the SPLC's nine-figure endowment.
But how do you keep the hate-fighting money rolling in when Generation X, the children of integration, all got along for the most part?
And the dying culture of racism in America seemed to be on its last leg.
Well, you rebrand racism.
Fuel it with Marxist critical theory and deliver that to the gullible little brothers and sisters of Generation X, the Millennials.
As the Washington Free Beacon reported, the Southern Poverty Law Center, a left-wing non-profit known for its hate group designations, now has $92 million in offshore investment funds, according to financial statements.
The SBLC has been thriving since President Donald Trump entered the White House.
The controversial organization reported $477 million in total assets and $132 million in contributions on its most recent tax forms.
Millions flowed to the group following the deadly Charlottesville, Virginia attacks from employees at companies including JPMorgan Chase and Apple, as well as from actors such as George Clooney.
And so here we are, up to our necks in divide-and-conquer hysteria.
In the midst of it, Proud Boys founder, political commentator, and fellow Generation Xer Gavin McGinnis has had enough.
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The SPLC has positioned themselves with such immense power that they are now infiltrating not just big tech, Where they decide who can say what.
But they're getting involved in banking.
And they're getting involved with the way everyone can do business.
They're bankrupting people and they're ruining innocent people's careers.
I mean, I'm doing this as much for me as I'm doing it for Deputy Brian Green, who was fired from Louisiana law enforcement for being a proud boy.
This guy volunteered doing women's self-defense on the weekends.
He's a stalwart of the community, graduated head of his class in the academy, and he's now lucky if he can get air conditioning work.
This is actually worse than communism, because in communism, you would go to the gulag, you'd go to the re-education camp, and you'd come back vindicated.
In today's America, with this witch hunt, you're never vindicated.
So once you're a bigot, once you're a homophobe, racist, transphobe, anti-Semi, whatever, that's permanently on your record, thanks to the SPLC, and you can never recover from that.
The people that I'm representing here, the people that I'm fighting for, they'll always be Google-able as part of a hate group.
The SBOC starts with bonafide bigots, maybe like 5% of their total list, and then they just spread that out and include everyone remotely Christian, everyone remotely conservative, and they make this massive hate map that makes America Look like a racist hellhole.
The Family Research Council, the black security guard, was shot defending them, and the guy who shot them said he wanted to kill as many people as he could.
The Steve Scalise shooting was based on the SPLC hate group.
Just the other day, Charles Murray was at Middlebury College, and the students were so rabid that a professor who got in the way of the attack was hospitalized.
This is all due to the SPLC's hate group.
They are fomenting hate.
They are a hate group.
jon bowne
And as PJ Media reported, Baltimore attorney Glenn Keith Allen is suing the Southern Poverty Law Center for racketeering, wire fraud, defamation, and other claims.
Among other things, Allen's suit demands a court judgment against the SPLC's 501c3 tax-exempt status, which could seriously cripple the organization.
Fortunately, there is something we can all do to make a difference.
Go to defendgavin.com and give what you can to take on the bloated anti-American Goliath known as the SBLC. Because division, fueled by greed, is truly what is tearing this country apart.
harrison smith
John Bound. That's John Bowne on the overreaching of the SPLC. We will get into that and more with my in-studio guest, Ali Alexander.
You know him from Periscope and Twitter and just making a mess of the liberal attempt to silence us and our speech.
We get into it all for the whole second hour of The War Room.
Harrison Smith filling in for Owen Schroyer.
Stay with us. Don't go anywhere.
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the second hour of The War Room News.
harrison smith
Marissa Smith sitting in for Owen Schroer today, joined in studio by Ali Alexander.
How would you describe yourself?
Activist, personality, political, you know, pundit.
How do you describe?
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Well, I know, I know these are dirty words, but how do you describe what you do?
ali alexander
I would describe myself as a believer, an activist first, but I've enjoyed 12 years professionally at the national level doing presidential campaigns, U.S. Senate campaigns, non-profits and PACs, super PACs, and now what I do is I get on Periscope and I inform the population on what's actually going on and arm them with information.
harrison smith
Yeah, and you can follow him at Ali, A-L-I. We were just talking about, you know, how do you get that name?
You've been on Twitter for a while, and of course, culture.com, culture with three Ts, dot com, and then patreon.com slash Ali Alexander.
And yeah, we were saying during the break, you know, it's almost like every time I get on Twitter...
You're periscoping. Or any time I pull up a story that I don't know you're a part of at all, it's like, there you are, right in the middle of it, right in the mix.
I mean, you're a hardworking guy, and it looks like you're getting a lot done.
So what's your focus right now?
Where's your energy going at this moment?
ali alexander
You know, so right after the election, I was down in Florida saving the U.S. Senate election.
The air would stop the steal, and you guys were good enough to kind of highlight what I was doing.
Laura Loomer on the journalistic effort.
Powerful stuff. And after that, I realized things have to change more rapidly.
And so for the past two, two and a half months, we've spent this time launching culture.com.
That's culture with three Ts dot com.
We've got to combat these never-Trumpers, these conservative ink types.
This is my former family, basically.
The people who are trying to silence us, or they're silent when we're silenced.
And, you know, so we got to do something about that.
But the Gavin McGinnis versus SPLC, I'm his advocate, running all his PR, doing some fundraising.
We know a lot of the same people from Alex to Michelle Malkin to a lot of people.
So making sure that that lawsuit is funded so that we can attempt to get discovery from the SPLC to find out which Silicon Valley companies they're coordinating with is a huge priority of mine.
And then lastly, I'm still working with the Covington family.
So CJ Pearson and I Kind of broke that wide open.
And I've been working with 16 families, and now I'm working with four law firms that represent over 50 families.
So we can't let those kids go by with the news cycle.
We have to watch them because they did this to the Duke Lacrosse kids when I was in high school.
So I'm not going to watch that happen again.
harrison smith
Oh, and they still bring that up as if all the revelations that it was all fake never happened.
So, yeah, we really have to hammer this.
And as you're saying, not just let it go by.
We talk about these GOPers or the Never Trumpers that they won't just not stand up for themselves.
They don't stand up for when it happens to somebody else.
To me, that's one of the most disheartening things.
That's one of the most... Just infuriating things when you see stuff like this happen to the Covington boys or Steve King or any of these guys just get absolutely smeared.
And not only do the Republicans and the GOP not stand up and go, hey, this is fake.
I'm going to stand by him.
You can't smear him like this.
They actually go the whole way.
And they remove him from, you know, we're talking about Steve King.
They remove him from committees. They actually put forward the liberal talking points and perspective.
It's Well, you know, Donald Trump said we need to teach them how to win.
Well, they're not learning!
ali alexander
You know, slowly but surely, slowly but surely.
So today the NRCC, which is the arm for the House Republicans, their re-election arm, put out a graphic that they wouldn't have put out a couple years ago.
So it had Linda Sassour and Congresswoman Omar, you know, two Muslim women who are kind of on the extreme end of their religion.
And so, you know, that wouldn't have happened two years ago.
So I think that, you know, what...
Those of us, the InfoWarriors, the Mike Cernoviches, the Jack Basopics, the Cassandra Fairbanks, myself, you, what we're doing is, you know, I'm not a big believer in the Overton window, but what we are doing is we are kind of expanding what is acceptable discourse and what is true.
You know, what is not a conspiracy theory?
What is a conspiracy truth?
And the fact is, is that the GOP is, I think, slowly learning, but we need new leadership.
harrison smith
Yeah, no, we definitely do.
And we're just looking at some of these stories.
I mean, just from this weekend, YouTube announces it will no longer recommend conspiracy videos.
Chase Bank shuts down the personal bank account of a proud, outspoken Trump supporter.
The Patreon purge and the banker's veto, as I call it, where basically the banks come in and just...
You know, dictate what these companies can and can't do, who they can and can't host.
You know, it's like we're being attacked on all fronts.
To me, that's signs that they are scared.
They know that they're going down, whether it's sooner or later.
They are frightened by what you represent, what I represent, what InfoWars represents.
They're frightened. They're on their back foot.
But we've seen what they do is when they get put in this position, it's like a cornered dog.
That's when they lash out.
Or rat. That might be a more appropriate image.
And yeah, that's when they fight back.
That's when they lash out and actually go on the offensive.
Maybe that's a lesson the Republicans can learn, but...
Where do you see...
Do you see this happening in the courts?
Obviously, that's where you're doing it. Do you think that's the best way to approach this, like you're doing with the Kavinsky?
ali alexander
I think we need a multi-front war.
I think that conservatives need to stop talking about suing people and stop saying, okay, well, you stopped attacking me.
And there needs to be a chilling effect to bad behavior.
And how you achieve a chilling effect to bad behavior...
Is you report people to police.
There's a gentleman, Montel Williams' business partner.
You know, Montel Williams is famous for payday loans and scamming the black community in my assessment of it.
And, you know, his business partner has used this highly sexualized language to C.J. Pearson, who's 16 years old.
Yesterday he gave a death threat to Jacob Wall, who's making major headlines all the time with Michael Avenatti and then Bob Mueller.
But the fact is, is that until we call the police on these people, which we did, and take these people to court, there's not really going to be a chilling effect.
They're not afraid of our judgment.
We don't own the TV networks.
We don't own Hollywood. We don't own Wall Street.
We really don't even own D.C., even though we had the majority.
So what we have to do is we have to take them into the courts.
We have to call the police.
We have to start using the system that we built, that the founders built, or else there won't be any chilling effect for bad behavior.
Spare the rod. Spoil the child.
harrison smith
Yeah, well, and the liberals know this, and that's why they've spent a lot of time getting the judges in the right positions, and the cases that are important always happen to fall to the same judges who they already know what position they're going to take.
What a coincidence. Geez, I wonder how that happens.
So, you know, this is just...
I don't know. I have so little hope in the court system.
So maybe you can buck me up because it seems to me that when you go against the SPLC, what you're going against is a bottomless money pit full of lawyers.
So how are you going to win against these guys?
ali alexander
Well, the SPLC has about $500 billion in their bank account.
And then they also have a bank account at the Cayman Islands.
So we estimate they might have another $500 million.
So $500 million, half a billion dollars is what the SPLC is sitting on.
And then who knows how much they have in the Cayman Islands.
So what we need to do is we need to raise about a million dollars to challenge them.
And this number isn't insignificant.
This number is what we've calculated with the two legal teams that we're working in, one in Alabama.
So we took the lawsuit directly to Alabama.
As soon as I got on the case, we did a strategy call.
And I said, I have a political network and I have a legal network in Alabama.
So we're kind of making news.
But we were originally going to file elsewhere.
And then we thought that, well, let's go to their backyard.
Let's go to Montgomery, Alabama.
Let's tell the people who are potential jurors what.
What this organization is actually doing.
The misrepresentation of the South, quite frankly, where race relations are good.
The riots are what you see up north.
And so we need a million dollars.
And what I would say, Harrison, is there are many ways to skin this cat.
We have to survive this case so that other people come.
We have to get discovery.
We have to survive a motion for summary judgment a couple of different times.
You know, get glowing profile pieces in the New York Times all the time.
Well, that boosts their morale.
And then our warriors, they're just fighting, you know, tirelessly.
And then occasionally they can get, you know, highlighted by Infowars or Gateway Pundit, you know, but it's a thankless task out there to fight on this side of this side.
And so what we've got to do is we just have to change the morale game.
And Sun Tzu wrote about this, and so I've kind of learned from the art of war and the Bible.
We're mixing that, and I'm like, okay, I'll change the morale game.
harrison smith
What a powerful combination, the art of war and the Bible.
Can such a combination be beat?
We'll find out.
More on the other side of this break with Ali Alexander.
You can follow him on Twitter, at Ali, that's A-L-I. Culture.com.
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I don't know how much you know about this, but we'll get into it.
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So stay with us, folks. This is War Room.
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harrison smith
All right, welcome back to the War Room.
Here's Smith sitting in for Owen Troyer, joined by the one and only Ali Alexander, who is leading the charge here with Gavin McInnes against the SPLC, against that thinly veiled hate group that they have down there.
What do they even call it?
An advocacy group? I mean, clearly it's just an anti-white, anti-Christian hate group, as far as I can tell.
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Anti-white, anti-Republican.
harrison smith
American, Republican. I mean, all these things.
It's just, you know, God knows.
And then, of course, you have this line from The Washington Times, FBI partners with left-leaning Southern Poverty Law Center on hate crimes.
So now they're partnered with the FBI, with Facebook, with Twitter.
I mean, where is free of these SPLC tentacles?
I can't find anywhere.
It's like they... These are them.
These are the gods. This is the council that decides what is and is not legitimate speech.
So tell us exactly what you're doing with Gavin to fight against this and what the war plan is without giving too much away.
ali alexander
So, you know, what's clear is that Gavin McInnes is a comedian and a satirist.
He says stuff I would not say.
He has jokes that I don't find funny.
On the other hand of that, some of his jokes are funny.
And what's clear is that he's not a bigot.
He's married to a brown woman.
Not that that should matter.
He believes in tolerance.
Not that that should matter.
What does matter is that after he was labeled something he's not, you know, white this, Nazi that, he lost work, so he has damages.
He lost associations.
There are things I can't talk about just to keep the family safe that have happened.
And... It's really trying.
I mean, even CRTV buckled under the pressure of the SPLC and my summation of reviewing the evidence.
And so he got booted off of Twitter.
He got booted off of everywhere but YouTube.
So he can't even make the logical argument that, hey, I'm not a bigot.
And so the way we look at it is here is a group that has engaged in activities against its competitors.
So it might be an antitrust thing.
Here's a group that has purposefully and intentionally maligned him and exaggerated the facts to the point of We are going to allege libel and slander.
And so we're suing the SPLC. We're suing them.
We haven't picked an amount of money.
We want a jury or a judge to decide that.
But we've outlined a very compelling case in a 61-page complaint.
And, you know, we're going to sue their butts off.
And and I actually am working with other people to produce other clients.
I'm going to take the fight to the SPLC because nobody has ever done this.
harrison smith
Yeah.
ali alexander
And so, you know, I'm working on two other cases, which, you know, I haven't announced.
But and I'm not a lawyer.
I'm the son of a lawyer.
I'm working with these lawyers because what's also important is that Gavin not shut up.
And so we went to Montgomery and we had a press conference and the rules were say whatever you want, Gavin.
We're here to defend your free speech rights, your rights of associations.
And it's really tragic what's happening to Gavin.
I was very proud to be in Montgomery with him just a week ago today, I guess it was.
harrison smith
Yeah. I think we have a video of that.
Let's go to that clip now.
ali alexander
I'm here joined with Gavin McGinnis who today filed a lawsuit with his two lawyers Ron Coleman and Barron Coleman of New York and Alabama.
We'll be available for questions.
But what's really important for us in this case against the SPLC is that Gavin not shut up.
Gavin is a satirist.
He's a political commentator.
And the SPLC has put him on a hate list to terrorize his family and then to chill the speech of Americans like us.
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So we want Gavin to tell you what he thinks is going on.
ali alexander
And then we'll be available for a Q&A.
And we want people to support his lawsuit at defendgavin.com.
Defendgavin.com.
Gavin McGinnis.
unidentified
That's it. I've never been here before.
I've never seen the SPLC's headquarters.
But it looks like Darth Vader's son's apartment, doesn't it?
It looks like an evil empire.
So yeah, I think the SPLC started out with noble intentions.
We all want bigotry and hatred to be monitored, to be stemmed.
Sounds good to me. I'm in.
Great. And then what I presume happened is the checks started pouring in.
And they went, wow, this fighting hate thing is profitable.
I think Morris Dees said originally, let's just cap it at 50 million.
And then it went to 100 million.
And now I believe it's at 430 million.
And that doesn't include the money in the Cayman Islands, which is probably comparable.
So we've got hundreds and hundreds of millions into fighting hate.
Now, when that is your business plan, you need to expand the net of hatred.
It can't just be the KKK. It has to be homophobia.
It has to be Islamophobia, transphobia.
It has to be Christian conservatives.
I don't know why it doesn't include jihadists.
For some reason, extremist Islam gets a pass.
But outside of that, if we really hone in on Christian conservatives, we could probably expand this hate map and make it look like America is a racist hellhole, a dangerous place to be.
And you look at their hate map on their site, and there seems to be more hate groups than there are post offices.
They're everywhere! And it depicts this picture of America, which is basically The worst of the 1930s coast to coast.
They cast this wide net of everyone's a Nazi and they start destroying lives.
harrison smith
Yeah, destroying lives.
And that's not an understatement by Gavin.
And yeah, if you're a radio listener, that building literally looks like something Darth Vader would come out of.
I mean, that was an evil architect.
ali alexander
It's not something you see in Montgomery, Alabama.
harrison smith
You wouldn't think so, but the SPLC does whatever they want, I guess.
And I saw stories of where...
And Gavin's neighbors are harassing him about what they've heard, these rumors that they've heard.
And he writes this very long, very thoughtful, very kind letter saying – just trying to disprove them and just say, look, I'm not the person that they've made me out to be.
I'm not hateful. I'm not racist.
Right. Please, like, just look at the facts and don't listen to these people.
And they just laugh at him.
They actually post and just go, ha ha, this Nazi's trying to trick us.
And that's the power that places like the SPLC have.
You can't underestimate their influence.
ali alexander
Yeah, well, you know, there's a narrative And then there's the frame and CNN, ABC, NPR, these mainstream media outlets that work with groups like the ACLU, the SPLC, groups that started out with noble intentions and fought for people who look like me.
And people who look like you.
And, you know, these groups have now turned into partisan, hyper-partisan hate machines, bigot machines.
Gavin shouldn't have to say, I'm not a bigot, because if he was a bigot, we ought to debate him in the public square.
But he just so happens to also not be a bigot.
And, you know, the organization that he founded, Proud Boys, has always been a multiracial organization.
It has, you know, gays, blacks, Jews, whites.
Christians, Buddhists, all kinds of these guys.
And they get rowdy.
They get real rowdy. And I'm not a proud boy.
But it's sad that he had to distance himself away from essentially a Trump drinking club, a pro-Trump drinking club, to protect his family and his reputation.
And then he still lost every gig.
Now, he's working. He finally announced a new gig.
But they're going after that now.
And it's really tragic.
Because what do you do? What do you do when you're broke?
What do you do when you can't speak?
harrison smith
Right, you don't even have a voice to argue back.
No, it's absurd. And as you say, these organizations at least used to fulfill, you know, to a bare minimum what they did.
I mean, so you have the SPLC's gone from actually defending real bigots like literal Nazis and saying, hey, they're a Nazi, but they have a right to speech to smearing regular like Christian conservatives who, you know, are not bigots in the slightest to smearing them as Nazis.
Like we've gone so off the rails and and we'll get more into it on the other side of Ali Alexander.
It is absurd the amount of power these organizations have.
No oversight, no, no recompense from anybody.
They get smeared by these people.
They silence you.
They deafen you.
They cause you to be mute and then they smear you.
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harrison smith
Harrison Smith sitting in for Owen Schroer on this, the 11th of February, 2019, in studio with Ali Alexander.
We're talking about censorship, big tech, control of what people can see and what they can say.
And sort of on the forefront of this is the website known as Patreon.
Speaking of, I'll plug it once again.
You can support Ali Alexander at patreon.com slash Ali Alexander for now.
I mean, you're still on it for now.
Who knows? How it will go.
And they've really been egregious in the way that they have extended their policy to not just content on the actual website, but to what you say absolutely anywhere.
And just to give the folks out there a quick timeline of what exactly has been the big cause celeb around this recently was Sargon of Akkad, who's a...
He calls himself a traditional liberal or whatever, but he's sort of a conservative YouTuber, and he got kicked off of Patreon because of something he said on somebody else's live stream, and you can get into whether that was an appropriate thing to say or not, not.
But the point is that they deleted his Patreon, which is a huge source of income, which is, you know, sort of sets itself up to be the platform by which these creators get paid.
And it sort of came out, you know, bit by bit that it may have been some some payment processors that encouraged Patreon to to do this.
Now, they weren't explicit about this with Sargon of Akkad.
But earlier in 2018, they had specifically said that MasterCard says we must remove your remove your account from Patreon to Jihad Watch's Robert Spencer.
So Robert Spencer runs Jihad Watch no longer has a Patreon because MasterCard came in and forced them to stop supporting him.
And I want to go to this video now.
I actually found this clip on a video from a YouTuber named ShortFatOtaku, which, you know, funny name, but he does very good work and very good research, ShortFatOtaku, and he breaks down in this video exactly what's going on with Patreon.
But this A particular part is Jack from Patreon, CEO of Patreon, I guess, and somebody else.
I'm not sure who the other person is, but he claims to speak for Patreon.
And listen to the way they talk about the position that they have now appointed themselves to.
I mean, they literally... Theoretically, they should just be payment processors.
They're just there to facilitate money from the user to the artist.
They've taken on a new role for themselves.
Let's play this clip now and hear exactly what they think their job is.
jack conte
Let me just talk about free speech and hate speech and folks' opinions on all this.
Look, we're taking a stand against hate speech.
It's not for everybody. Some people don't like it.
Those folks are not going to be cool with that.
We're not going to allow people to use racial slurs and to spread bigotry and hatred on the platform.
I think other tech companies have been slow to address some of these problems.
And yeah, we're coming out and taking a clear stand on that.
And a lot of creators who are against our stand on that have these big communities and are drumming up a lot of excitement and press.
And they have their opinions and we have ours.
And if you don't like it, don't use Patreon.
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People ask us about on platform versus off platform.
That was a big piece.
So people would say, oh, but the hate speech wasn't on Patreon.
At the end of the day, we process payments.
So the way the world works is that where the buck stops is where the transaction happens.
So as long as we process payments, people follow the crazy that people do.
They follow the money. Regardless of where people do, the dumb shit that violates our terms, the payment stops with us, and therefore the buck stops with us.
harrison smith
The payment stops with us.
The buck stops with us.
That's it, ladies and gentlemen. They are now your lords.
They are your censors. They decide because they handle the money.
Your reaction to that, L.A. Alexander?
ali alexander
Well, the team's going to have to catch this.
Fuck Patreon.
You know, these puritanical, progressive, postmodernists.
Nothing they said actually made any sense whatsoever.
You know, saying that the book stops with us.
The team ought to look up when Jack had to address deplatforming Lauren Southern, they actually had a different policy.
And I forgot what the policy... It's like on the tip of my head, but I can't place it.
But it was a different policy that no other...
I work with a lot.
I talk with a lot of these Silicon Valley companies.
But what was unique about Patreon was they said only if it happens on our platform and only if it blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So what you've seen is a migration policy.
You know, as somebody who really does deep analysis and deep dives on videos and human behavior, what I can tell you is he was clearly – Jack, the CEO of Patreon, was clearly coached by his comms team because he went to use ad hominem attacks against these people and those people.
harrison smith
Oh, and they're causing excitement and trouble.
It's just totally disregarding.
ali alexander
You know, what are headlines? We don't want headlines, but we're doing a podcast.
I mean, it's just so silly, so depraved what these freaks and geeks are doing.
Yeah, it's ingenuous. Yeah, and so I just think it's deplorable.
And I want to say from my stance, my stance is that I am anti-Patreon.
I am keeping my page up because in the description, there are alternative links to Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, the Cash app, PayPal.
And we're dealing with PayPal and the lower aluminum issue, too.
But my position is I'm independent.
I've got to remain independent.
And that means taking some tough stances sometimes.
But I'm for associating with anybody.
But Patreon, again, the team probably wants to catch this.
harrison smith
No, wait, we're on terrestrial radio.
I gotta ask you not to curse.
I understand the desire to curse at Patreon.
Trust me, we're right there with you.
But yeah, so...
MasterCard tells them what they can and can't support, and then they come out.
I would go to this other clip.
This YouTuber, Matt Christensen, had a call with Patreon.
He documented the whole thing verbatim, and you could just hear them kind of wiggle around and try to say, well, we have to listen to what our banks say, but really it's our thing, but it's not really our thing.
I mean, there's such snakes, man.
There's such snakes. And then, you know, it's...
You have Chase shutting down the personal bank account of the, I guess, now leader of the Proud Boys, who is one of those black Cuban white supremacists, I guess.
Absolutely outrageous. And then, you know, there in that video, Jack says, hey, if you don't like it, you can go to a different platform.
Okay, the main platform that is in competition with Patreon is Subscribestar.
Subscribestar almost gets taken down because their payment processor pulls out.
So fine, they get another one.
Well, you can't link... SubscribeStar on YouTube.
So if you're a YouTuber and you want to tell people to go to Patreon, well, they'll put a little icon in the top corner of your page, and it'll always be there, and that's their preferred platform.
If you want to tell people to go to SubscribeStar, there's no link there, and that really is asking people to type it.
ali alexander
Antitrust. It's antitrust behavior, trying to bully independent companies and emerging tech, and the Trump administration has totally failed on this issue.
Yeah. And I've worked very closely with White House working groups on an executive order and can't share too many details, but I'm ticked.
I'm ticked and my allies are ticked and there are snakes in the administration and there are people who want Donald Trump to lean into his instincts.
The president's instincts are to direct certain agencies to do certain actions and he has that authority and to sign an executive order.
harrison smith
Hey, he's got about one year to do it because if he does not do this, 2020 will come around and his biggest supporters will not have a voice.
How is he going to win if that's the situation?
You brought up Laura Loomer.
She's been kicked off PayPal, just like InfoWars has.
She's also banned from Uber and Lyft.
I mean, these are, you know, it's getting to the point that literally the applications, the just devices we use to...
Live our everyday lives are being blocked.
We're being blocked from using it.
I mean, this is the mark of the beast, right?
This is revelations come to life.
This is you shall not buy or sell without permission from the devil.
It's absurd. Yeah, yeah.
ali alexander
I mean, it certainly feels like that.
It certainly feels like that. And it may be that we've tokenized our society without a blockchain.
And so it is...
You can be censored.
You're not independent.
You have to go through a bank.
So you have the worst of the old society and the worst of the new society.
That's why I call on the crypto community.
You know, where are you guys?
Where are you guys? Where's the adoption?
Where's the marketing budget? Where's the education?
And I know that, you know, Infowars, myself, you, Alex, we got to be on the front line of deciding what's next.
harrison smith
Yeah, and we're doing our best, but man, it is hard when they have all the power and all the money and they can just cut you off without any sort of recompense.
We'll get into, on the other side, let's get into what the White House is doing, what Trump can do, and how we fight back against this.
Because I'm a libertarian. I don't want the government involved if they don't have to be.
But hey, they have to be because no one else is strong enough to fight these people off.
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It's simple. If you want to beat the globalist, if you want to take on the new world order, I'm not doing Bitcoin pumping dumps with Jack Dorsey.
I'm not sitting here selling you cancer cures.
I'm not sitting here, you know, selling you late-term abortion and all great it is.
I just go out and say, what is the top heart pill?
What is the top? Tumor is the best seller because it's anti-inflammatory.
And what's the best lab in the country?
Okay, they're the highest rated. I'm like, you're only 50% curcuminoid?
Well, yeah, they only put $5 product in the bottle, but that's still incredible, sir.
I'm like, what's the highest you could do?
A month later, 90%, 95%.
No one's ever done that. I said, how much does that cost per bottle?
It costs $10. No one's ever done that.
Sir, the average competitor is 3% to 5%.
The top brand is 50%.
I'm like, we're going to have 95% curcuminoid.
I mean, you understand, like, that's, like, our information's explosive.
Our fish oil. I go out and I get the cleanest, the best.
My children take it. You think I'm gonna give you fish oil that isn't the very damn best on my soul?
You think I'm gonna screw somebody over like one of these devil worshippers?
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harrison smith
That's Donald Trump, God Emperor Trump, just really laying down the heat there.
But he talks like this.
He's got this spirit about him when he's giving speeches, but we're talking about censorship and control.
If you're just tuning in, this is War Room.
Harrison Smith joined with Ali Alexander.
Where is the action?
Where is the action? Does he not understand that if he lets this censorship continue unabated, he's gonna lose 2020.
Like, that's gonna be it. It's over for us if we don't deal with this right now.
Where is he? Ali Alexander.
ali alexander
Well, he's MIA because he's listening to voices inside of his administration that lean towards corporatism in the Chamber of Commerce.
And, you know, I don't want to sell anybody out.
I did let them know that I was going to get aggressive after, again, after Stop the Steal, my mindset changed.
And what's clear is that Donald Trump will lose 2020 now.
And I get a lot of blowback when I tweet this.
Donald Trump will lose 2020 if there are no Milo Yiannopolises.
There are no Mike Cernovich's.
There are no Roger Stone's.
There is no... Even Alex Jones' base.
If there is no base, he will not win.
And so the Silicon Valley and the censorship issue is absolutely important.
It's absolutely paramount. And I've worked with White House working groups on drafts of executive orders.
The president's instinct is to move on some action here.
You know, he... We're good to go.
Cringe, but it's without government action.
I think we've crossed the line.
I used to be an opponent of some of this government action, but the fact is that our judges and our judiciary is very uneducated on how the internet works, and we're not using our antitrust laws at all.
Google is like four or five times bigger, has a greater percentage of the monopoly in the markets that they participate in than Microsoft was when Eric Schmidt convinced the government to go after Microsoft.
So there's no consistency in the law right now.
And that means that there's also civil rights abuse happening.
It's just like voter fraud.
My argument for voter fraud is very simple, is if you are an illegal and you are voting or if you are voting illegally, you've actually reduced everyone else's votes and we should all we all should be should be able to bring a RICO statute, a RICO suit against you.
Or there should be a mass civil rights violation of the millions of people that you just deprived of a whole vote.
harrison smith
Yeah, basically robbing the vote of actual Americans.
You know, it's just you talk about, you know, Microsoft or you want to talk about Bell or any of these, you know, big monopolies that have been taken apart before.
You know, they were pretty much only taken apart because of the economic implications of of monopolies.
This is not just economic implications, which there are.
This is also them actively asserting their power to keep down speech, to violate our rights as Americans.
So not just the monopoly aspect because of because of economy, but they're actually using this monopoly to rob us of our rights.
So it's like, like I said before, I'm a libertarian.
I want the government involved in as little as possible.
This is a place where they need to be involved because they're the only ones powerful enough to stop it.
I mean, literally, you have MasterCard.
You have bankers dictating what is and is not free speech.
This is not America.
This has to be reversed or we lose everything.
ali alexander
Yeah. When someone tells me they're a libertarian, I'm like, oh, that's cute.
harrison smith
It just means liberty above all else, and that's what we want, the liberty to speak our mind.
And if the government has to come in and help us do that, hey, that's what you've got to do.
ali alexander
Or whatever. I think what's...
And I don't think that it's just because the government's this powerful or that powerful.
Eventually, technology should level the playing field so that people can communicate and then we can take people's action.
What you're saying is absolutely right.
They're preventing us from taking...
People action. What I think is actually going on is I think that Google is illegally lobbying, you know, and that's what some of these monopolies provide.
I think that we're messing around with areas that Adam, you know, Adam Smith wasn't a god.
The Wealth of Nations isn't the Bible.
This isn't doctrine. And I think the red pill for me, you know, I'm not black-pilled.
I'm red-pilled. And I'm also clear-pilled.
But I think that for me it was a realization that There's one truth and everything else is up for grabs.
And so now I'm messing around with Yali.
Oh, you can't sue the SPLC? F that.
You know, I was called an anti-Semitic bigot by the ADL and Huffington Post.
Totally outlandish. They didn't quote a single thing I said.
That's absolutely not true.
I'm a friend of all people.
It's against, you know, my Christian doctrine to hate anyone.
Jesus said hate in the heart is murder.
And so for me...
When Covington Hash happened, it was like, oh, you can't defend these white kids.
Yes, I can. And so I'm doubling down on everything I believe, and I think that that also means on taking on these companies.
The DOJ ought to break up some of them or bring antitrust lawsuits against them.
The SEC, the FTC, the SEC, and the FEC, all four of those agencies ought to bring investigations into these companies that cost them lots of money to defend.
And I think that that's how aggressive we've got to be.
We've got to be like a Teddy Roosevelt.
And Donald Trump sees a lot of himself in Teddy Roosevelt for Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln.
So let's act like him.
For people like you and I who like liberty more than some of the force from the big man, it's time for us to adapt.
There was an article during the 2016 election that kind of really...
Made the case for why conservatives need to accept the moment that is now.
And that was from the Claremont Institute in an article called the Flight 93 election.
And that is, you have hijackers on the plane.
Rush the cockpit.
And, you know, do whatever you have to do.
Because if you lose your life, I'm getting chills right now.
If you lose your life, you might actually save the lives of innocent people and take a plane down in a field instead of hitting our nation's capital.
And, you know, those were heroes on the Flight 93 election.
And, you know, I was 15 or 16.
And that's what we ought to do as conservatives.
And that's what I do now every day is I fight the fight because I'm rushing the cockpit.
And if they take me out, I hope that that spares some others.
harrison smith
Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, it's the classic sort of Alex Jones argument where people are like, whoa, man, you're You're way too intense.
Like, you don't worry about it.
It's like, we are under attack.
The terrorists are in the cockpit.
Now is not the time to vacillate and say, well, is it right to do this?
Is it right? It's like, there's a reason we're so intense.
There's a reason. The hour is nigh.
Exactly. There's a reason we portray this as a life or death struggle.
It's because that is not hyperbole.
That is where we are as a nation right now.
So you are a powerful soldier and a powerful weapon arrayed against the enemy.
Ali Alexander, at Ali on Twitter, A-L-I, culture with three Ts, dot com, patreon.com slash Ali Alexander.
In the last couple of minutes here, tell us about culture.
Tell us about how that is helping to move this fight forward.
ali alexander
So we need more voices, not less voices, my late great friend Andrew Breitbart said.
And so I want to be a part of that.
So me and some guys, now there's 45 people involved in the project, culture.com with three Ts.
What we want to do is there are voices like Jack Besopic and Laura Loomer and Mike Cernovich.
If you are a independent figure, Alex Jones, who is influencing public policy, you ought to be covered by So that's what the position is at Culture.
We're not going to take editorial position.
We're not conservative. We're not right-wing.
We're free thinkers.
But we ought to cover what is happening with these influencers.
I'm actually a subject of the publication, and I'm working with the publication.
So I'm done with some of these rules that box us in.
And I'm like, you know, if these people are influencing public policy from their phone, from their living room, from Periscope, We ought to hear from them directly.
So what the culture team does is they clip up pithy clips so you don't have to watch hour-long periscopes as mine happen to be.
You know, people have nine to five jobs.
And so they want to see what are the highlights of the people who believe what I believe in fighting the good fight, these culture warriors and the culture war.
And so that's what culture does, and no one else is doing it.
And, you know, you have sites like Ben Shapiro's site that just totally ignores that Laura Loomer was banned from PayPal.
They call, you know, these person alt-right when they're not, and, you know, this other person a white nationalist when they're not.
I'm done playing those games with my former friends in conservative ink, and now we have to build more voices, you know, like InfoWars, like culture, and we're not all going to agree on everything.
We're going to do things very differently.
Culture is not anything like InfoWars, but we need more voices, not less.
harrison smith
Yeah, absolutely. And that's one thing about our side is we actually let you disagree with us.
I know. I know. The big, bad, evil so-called Nazis that they try to smear us with, we actually literally just want people to be able to speak their minds.
It's really great what you're doing.
Ali Alexander, patreon.com slash alialexanderculture.com with three Ts at Ali.
Thank you so much for joining us here.
Just in the last couple seconds, final words for all the people out there listening to you on InfoWars.
ali alexander
Yeah, I want to thank everybody for supporting me.
You guys have, you know, every time I appear on one of the shows, there's a flood of phone calls and emails, and so the producers tell me, hey, you're doing good.
But, you know, fight this fight with us at defendgavin.com, culture.com with three Ts.
You know, you can be a citizen journalist, and I'll be your editor.
harrison smith
Absolutely. Powerful stuff.
We need more people like Ali Alexander out there getting the word out.
Just fighting this fight.
They do not have the soldiers that we have.
They have the control of the system.
Human versus machine.
Guess who's going to win, ladies and gentlemen?
Yeah, it's the humans. Anomaly joins me on the other side.
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Today we're at the University of Miami talking to students about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Green New Deal.
It sounds nice, it's ambitious, but will students support it when they find out what's actually in it?
Let's talk to them and find out.
The number one trending thing on social media yesterday was her Green New Deal.
It's a plan to combat climate change.
It was already endorsed by multiple Democrat frontrunners for president in 2020.
Based on what you've heard of the plan, would you say you view it favorably or unfavorably?
I view it flavorably. I think that we need to cut our reliance on fossil fuels.
It's definitely a great idea. I like that it's progressive.
I like that it is going to push the world forward in the way we need to be.
I would say it's a favorable act.
Just from knowing who's endorsed it and just some little things, it sounds great.
I think it'd be great for us.
I think if we didn't do that, then we're going to be killing ourselves, basically.
Got it. So we need to take care of ourselves.
I think it's very important to support that.
Anything that would reduce our dependence on fossil fuels is really important.
I definitely support this movement.
Some of the things in the plan I want to get your opinion on.
So the plan says within 10 years we're going to completely outlaw coal, natural gas, and oil.
So gasoline, anything like that in 10 years.
I don't agree with that.
To be honest with you, I think we need those things to live.
I do not think it is feasible in 10 years.
I don't think that that would be something that would be able to be done in such a short amount of time.
I think 10 years is a little extreme because I feel like there's such a big global market and economic impact of oil businesses.
It might not be good for the environment, but you can't deny there's a big economic impact to these companies.
What's your thought on that? Sounds like a reach, honestly.
Do you think that's feasible? No.
If you're unwilling to work, we will still supply help for your salary and help for a living wage.
No, absolutely not.
If you're not willing to contribute to society, then I don't think that the people who are contributing should pay for you.
So I disagree with that.
I feel like it kind of sends the poor message of, you know, you can just get away with not doing anything and, you know, getting money.
It's kind of stupid. I don't like that personally.
Unwilling isn't the best way to go about things.
Like, I don't want to go to college, but I have to get a job, so.
Everyone is to contribute.
That's the only way society works.
I don't know about that one.
I think that if you're unwilling, that I don't know if you should receive money for that.
If you didn't want to go to class, if you were unwilling to go to class, should I still give you a good grade?
No. Yeah, people definitely need a job and need to work.
Eliminating almost all air travel with high-speed rails.
What's your thought on that? I feel like it's kind of the same one.
I feel like 10 years is a little extreme for that.
I don't think it should be eliminated altogether.
I think it's definitely, it can be an option.
I think the more options we have, the better.
I think that's drastic.
I haven't heard of that one yet.
I can't see that happening either, honestly.
We've come so far to get to this point where we are right now with using these resources.
And to say, oh, we have to get rid of it in 10 years seems a little too much to me.
Who's going to pay for all of it?
Who's going to offset the trillions of dollar cost that it would be?
Right. I don't know.
Nobody knows. It's kind of like, who's really going to pay?
I don't... Based on what you've heard from these, does it change your perception of the plan at all?
Yeah, a lot.
Sometimes you need to take extreme measures to save the environment, but I don't think that is like, I think it's a bit too extreme.
Um, it doesn't sound like something I would be behind.
I don't agree with us having to, you know, take away flying in the air.
I don't agree with, you know, taking away coal and things like that, and I don't agree with everyone.
harrison smith
That's Campus Reform.
Cabot Phillips is the interviewer's name.
Of course, coming out with just another bombshell expose of just how uninformed and easily misled the average American millennial is.
It's upsetting if it wasn't so funny to see this happen, but it's just the way socialism works.
They say, hey, hey, don't you want...
More stuff. Don't you want free college?
Don't you want all of this wonderful lollipops and milkshakes?
People say, yes, of course.
And then they go, okay, give over everything you have.
Surrender your freedom. Surrender your livelihood and subject yourself to our terms.
And people go, wait, no, wait, what?
No, I don't want that.
That's the way they do it. They tease you and then they...
Show you who they really are.
Yeah, socialism's not gonna work here, folks.
No matter how dumbed down you make the population, no matter how ill-informed you try to keep us, we will find the information, we'll find the truth, and we'll fight back.
Anomaly joins me on the other side.
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to our three of the War Room episodes.
harrison smith
It is Monday, February 11th, 2019, 5.06 p.m.
Central Standard Time.
Our trifecta of bombshell guests continues with possibly the most requested guests I have ever received while I've hosted at InfoWars.
About at least once a week, I get a message saying, why do you not get anomaly requests?
So Anomaly by popular demand joins me here on The War Room.
Thank you so much for being with us.
an0maly
Thank you for having me.
I'm glad to hear I'm the most requested.
harrison smith
That's impressive. Oh yeah, man.
Well, there's something about what you do that is very different than most other people, you know, I guess I'll say on our side, doing what we do.
You are very...
I don't know how to put it. Easily digestible, I guess, is a way to put it.
You aren't abrasive.
You don't scare people away with theatrics or anger or anything like that.
You're very calm. You're very collective.
You're very reasonable. And I think that draws people to you.
And I think people on our side recognize this is the type of person that we need arguing for us because you can actually change minds.
an0maly
Thank you. Yeah, that was a great intro.
And, you know, I'm reasonable and calm until people don't have me on InfoWars, and then I send my goons out to request me until, you know, we come knocking at the gates.
No, I'm just kidding. But yeah, thank you.
harrison smith
I had to bust down the gates.
No, they didn't need to tell me, because honestly, I've been wanting to get you on for a while.
You can follow Anomaly, by the way, on Twitter at Legendary Energy.
His website is legendary.vision.
And if you search on YouTube, it's Anomaly, but the O is a zero.
So anomaly with a zero as an O. Now, I have a bunch of stuff that I've been watching your live streams and your videos and stuff, but just for the people out there that don't know who you are and don't know what you do, how do you describe what you do and who you are?
an0maly
I technically say news analyst, so I analyze the news, but I'm also a hip-hop artist.
I guess we'll leave it at that.
Human being, hip-hop artist, news analyst.
I was going to be like, philosopher?
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harrison smith
I want to talk to you about that because I wonder where your philosophy comes from, where its roots are.
We'll get into that a little bit later.
I know you had a stream where you were talking about the Grammys that occurred over the weekend and just what you were seeing going on there with the Build the Wall dress and how you think that we can sort of make inroads with these...
that are generally blocked off from conservatives or people who love freedom, people who love logic and basic common sense, which is really what I think you supply a lot of.
It's like what you're saying is just what everybody understood before the brainwashing really took over.
But just I guess we'll start with that.
What was your observations with what happened with the Grammy, with Joy Villa and the Make the Wall dress?
an0maly
I try to use it as a segue to talk some real talk to my friends around the world that probably don't like Trump or don't like libertarianism, where I was like, listen, it's a matrix breaking moment.
I get it's off-putting to people who don't like it, but the pitch I was making is they're using social justice, they're using black activism, they're using LGBT activism, and they're using the music industry to kind of hijack the cultures and the movements.
So I was like, I get that you might not like it, but the reason it's so openly, outwardly acceptable to be like, I hate Trump, I hate Trump, it's all over the place.
It's because that's what they want you to think.
So if you do that, I saw everyone freaking out.
I understand why.
It's a pretty loud dress.
But I was like, listen, if you like freedom of speech, This new side is not for you.
If you like the Second Amendment, and a lot of rappers clearly do, and then they're like, why are we getting taxed?
Cardi B's on Instagram. I'm like, I don't know why I'm getting taxed.
I'm like, well, one side of the debate takes 40% to 45% of your taxes, and the other side is taking 30%, in my opinion, still too much.
Maybe you should look into that rather than being like, yo, should I talk at the Democratic Convention?
It's like, I don't know. Do you like extremely high taxes and plans like in California where they have the highest taxes but the most poverty and the most small businesses fleeing to China?
It's an ideology that doesn't make sense, but they've been master manipulators of social justice and social engineering to make people think that it's the right thing when it's really not.
harrison smith
Yeah, and they have this incredible ability.
I mean, branding is like a superpower for the liberals or something.
Because they... I'll go on and you'll see...
There was something posted on Reddit.
It was an image that had been posted in New York City that said, you know, keep the trash out of NYC. And it showed basically Trump supporters, people wearing Trump hats and basically was insinuating that these people were trash.
And there was a comment there saying, you know, I'm a Democrat, but I don't agree with this.
And I don't think this is good. And my response is, well, this is...
This is what Hillary Clinton says.
This is what Barack Obama says.
This is what Joe Biden says.
So this isn't like some fringe element of the Democrats.
This is like a core belief of yours.
And so why do you continue to support this party if they go against something you so fundamentally believe?
And it just speaks to what you're saying that, you know, Gun rights or whatever it is, somehow people go, yeah, I'm against that, but they will not even consider supporting anybody but the Democratic Party.
How do they have such a vice grip on people's minds?
an0maly
I think the education system, they have largely taken control of.
Social media does a number on socially engineering people.
They have almost 100% total control over social media as far as the liberal elites.
The television, pretty much everything but Fox News and One American News Network.
So they have a grip. But the thing is, it really isn't working.
As far as Donald Trump won the presidency, Howard Schultz is talking about running and they're smearing him because he's even saying, listen, The left has gone too far left.
I mean, Roseanne said it, and look what happened.
Although you could say it's for another reason, but I think it's largely because she was questioning the narrative breaking the matrix.
And then you have a lot of people I talk to, because I talk to a lot of Democrats and liberals.
If you ease in on it, because people say they like my approach, like you said, it's naturally who I am, but I'm...
I'm like, do you like this?
Do you like political correctness?
Like Kevin Hart getting yelled at?
No. Do you like this? No.
And then I get to the truth and I cut through the Trump hate.
And once I get through their emotions, they're like, you know what?
That is too far left.
It doesn't work in California.
No, I see it doesn't work with homelessness.
They're incentivizing homelessness and they're not being tough enough on it.
And I was like, that's why we like Trump, you know, because he is tougher.
He might be a little too tough for you, but if you're just open your arms, it doesn't remove poverty and it's Clearly not going to stop illegal immigration and stuff.
It's going to incentivize all that stuff, not help anyone, not help the hundreds of millions of legal immigrants here.
And honestly, it's not really helping them in this great way.
You ask them, you're like, why do you want that?
And they're like, oh, well, they need to do the labor.
I'm like, that doesn't make you sound very virtuous.
So the whole... The whole argument's a lie, but it isn't working.
And a lot of these companies like HuffPost, Vice and stuff, they're having to downsize and they're all crying.
But it's like, you're not honest.
You're not wise. You're...
Splitting the Democratic Party, you have the socialist, communist, progressives, and you have the normal liberals, but then you also have a small, intersectional, super activist, like, I'm 900 pounds, and I have 50 cats, and this is the way you should be, and everybody else is racist, sexist, and xenophobic, and you need to die, and you're like, what?
That's such a small minority that they're giving so much power to, and it honestly isn't popular on the left.
They're split into a few different things, so it's backfiring totally, and for the sake of...
Everyone, it's like, just stop already.
harrison smith
It's not working. Yeah, you know, I think you're right, and I have to remind myself of this, because you see all the news, and you see how insane people are getting, and it's easy to think that this is how everybody is, but then I always tell the story of, you know, this guy was test driving a car,
and anyway, the guy sitting next to me, he was like, oh yeah, you know, you gotta not go with the parties, man, and then he's talking sort of anti-Trump stuff, and I said, well yeah, but you know, one side doesn't think that gender exists, and now they don't think that walls work So how do you trust these people with governance of the country if they literally don't think that walls work?
I mean, there are some basic level common sense ideas that just aren't there with the Democrats.
It's a little bit troubling.
It's a little upsetting. But I think you're right that they're pushing a little bit too far and they're not going to be able to survive.
My guest is Anomaly.
You can find him on Twitter at Legendary Energy.
His website, legendary.vision.
And when we get back, I'm going to play a clip of one of your live streams that I saw, and I took liberty of clipping out a little minute of it sort of relates to what we were just talking about in that last segment and just in the way that we're just seeking truth here.
And I think it really gets to the center of what you're doing and what we here at InfoWars are trying to do, and we'll sort of get into.
I'd just love to hear your background and your history and how you arrived at where you are now because I don't know that much about you, and I don't think very much.
I'm sure a lot of Info Warriors don't either.
So we're going to find all that out and more on the other side with Anomaly.
This is the War Room. Harrison Smith sitting in for Owen Stroyer.
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I'm old school and I'm also East Coast.
I like the blunt truth sometimes.
I don't like to be lied to.
I'm not like Joe and Sam where they're like, Jack, I don't care if he says it and does the opposite.
That's not honest.
I want to be slapped with the raw truth.
From black America, to white America, to Hispanic America, to Brazil, to Europe.
What's the truth? I don't care about people's feelings.
I don't care about my feelings.
You could talk about white people or Hispanic people.
You could talk about men.
I'm not going to cry as long as you're telling the truth.
Just tell the truth.
You know what I'm saying? Sometimes the truth is beautiful.
Sometimes the truth is ugly.
Sometimes the truth is exactly what we want to hear.
Sometimes the truth isn't what we want to hear.
But what our media has created, and social media, and now gatekeepers of intellect, have created a system of pretty lies.
harrison smith
A system of pretty lies.
I could not have said it better myself, and I just absolutely agree with that sentiment there expressed by my guest for the hour, Anomaly.
You can find his videos on YouTube, Anomaly with a zero instead of an O in the writing of his name.
But yeah, they erect these elaborate systems of pretty and acceptable and, you know, sort of easily digestible lies, and they're shielding you from the truth.
I just thought that was really a profound sort of moment there.
And you do these long live streams that go on for several hours, and they're just packed full of really sort of gems of wisdom like that, you know, that I really appreciate.
So... How did you arrive at doing this?
How did you get started doing this?
What did you do before? And what brought you to this point, Anomaly?
an0maly
Man, first of all, very, very, very rare clip.
Thank you for clipping it up. And secondly, so I started rapping.
I was just a hip-hop artist.
I went to West Virginia University, and I rapped out of my dorm room when I was like 18, 19.
And I actually sampled Alex Jones in 2009.
I sampled a clip of him in a song, so very rare.
But I always talked about real stuff.
And then once the 2016 election came along, I got so tired of the lies.
And I actually kind of fell victim to thinking Bernie Sanders was a matrix breaker, anti-establishment person.
And I didn't really understand economics at this point because I always just tuned out politics and I knew it was like a two-party trap.
But I started paying attention to how dishonest the media was.
So I started talking about it on Facebook and YouTube just by default.
And then it just got huge.
And I was like, all right, I guess I'm doing this now.
So it was really just a pursuit of truth and also trying to get the right message out there without being too negative and negative.
Like you were saying earlier, a lot of conservatives, not only do sometimes I just see them straight up lie as well, but their message is so off-putting to the youth, to the music industry, to the tech industry.
I understand why they're losing the culture awards because I don't blame liberals for that.
I blame conservatives and libertarians for not stepping up.
We got to take self-accountability too.
harrison smith
Yeah, and I find it not overly difficult when I'm on a one-on-one situation to sort of convince people or just lay out the information in a kind and considerate way that people don't just automatically push back with what I'm saying.
And you can sort of convince people, but it's hard and you have to sort of walk them through it and fight back against all these prejudices that they have had instilled into them.
But then...
When I'm not one-on-one, when I'm on the air, I'm a little bit more abrasive, maybe a little bit more aggressive in it.
Do you find that your approach works?
Does your message get out to liberals or do they just seem to tune you out?
What's been your experience in terms of feedback for what you do?
an0maly
Yeah, I mean, you know, to each their own, where some people need certain energies and some people never will learn.
But I've gotten really good response, like a lot of people that are really crushing it.
And also just like people that are like, I was liberal, progressive my whole life.
I showed my dad, he works in this industry, this, that, like so many amazing messages.
But I also go a little harder sometimes on air.
There's a different style for everything.
And in person, if they're like, I hate Trump, I really like – it's like unraveling yarn where I was like, all right, where should we start?
I'm like, hey, like these politicians were lying.
At least he broke it open.
And they're like, oh, yeah, I've never thought of it that way.
So there's different strokes for different folks.
harrison smith
Yeah, people tend to be more open-minded than you would think if you at least approach them in an open-minded fashion as well.
Just out of sheer curiosity, the vibe I got from you, I was pretty certain that you were like a...
I mean, this is just prejudice on my part, I guess.
But I was pretty certain you were like a pretty hardcore Christian.
And then some of the other stuff you said made me think that that maybe wasn't the case.
So just out of pure curiosity, where does your philosophy come from?
Where, you know, how were you raised in this sort of thing?
Is this something you came to yourself?
Does it have a spiritual or religious background?
Or just how do you see sort of your metaphysical reality?
an0maly
Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
So I was raised Catholic, and I was baptized and did all that.
And then it was weird because I became atheist in middle school, and I was like, nothing exists.
Richard Dawkins is the smartest.
And then my family was like, no, you can't be atheist.
And now the crazy thing is I'm the more religious, spiritual one, and now they're all kind of not.
So the tables have turned.
But I went through a phase of atheism and agnosticism, and then I really got into Taoism.
Not really, but I read a few books, and I was like, wow, this wisdom and knowledge from Taoism, or Taoism as they call it, the Tao, is very profound.
And then, you know, this election came around, and I just got closer to God, and, you know, I have a lot of good Christians in my life, so I don't call myself a Christian.
Christian, I believe in God, I believe and pray to Jesus Christ, but I feel that certain texts and also certain organized religions manipulate people and humans have taken the word of God and perverted it and used it for nefarious purposes.
So my relationship with God and Jesus Christ is great, but I don't look down on others who don't believe, and I find that a lot of people do that and And I also, I'm just playing my role and my purpose, so I am, you know, I'm trying to take a lot of things in, but that's kind of my path to where I'm at now.
harrison smith
Yeah, no, I appreciate that.
It's just a point of interest for me, and...
You do these streams on your YouTube.
What's the best way for people to find you, and is that sort of your primary method of getting information out right now on the YouTube streams, or are you more Twitter-centric, just for people out there to find you?
an0maly
It's actually Facebook. Facebook, I have like 600,000 plus people and 200 million views.
So Facebook's the craziest, but YouTube, it's getting pretty big too, and Twitter.
So Twitter, legendary energy.
YouTube is anomaly, but the O is a zero.
So A-N-0-M-A-L-Y. So if you search A-N-0-M-A-L-Y, you can find me anywhere.
And I have another page on Facebook.
almost a million followers on Facebook and they banned me for three days recently, but it was a copyrighted video, I guess.
I don't know.
But that's how I discovered the long live streams on YouTube.
I never did those until I got banned.
And I was like, oh, that was a blessing in disguise.
I learned about super chats.
Yeah.
harrison smith
Yeah.
And you have a huge following that is really loyal to you and really appreciates what you say.
And I guess it's growing all the time and And yeah, definitely a lot of info warriors, you know, cross-pollination there.
People really resonate with what you say.
When we get back on the other side, I want to talk to you about some of these headlines that we're seeing, just about everything from abortion to just, you know...
Censorship and big tech, all that and more on the other side with Anomaly.
Find him on Twitter at Legendary Energy website, legendary.vision.
We will get into more on the other side.
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harrison smith
Harrison Smith sitting in for Owen Troyer as he takes a well-deserved break from the news cycle.
I am joined by Anomaly.
He's my guest today.
You can find him on YouTube.
Anomaly with a zero instead of an O in his name.
You can search for him there.
Now, there was something that I wanted to bring up.
It has to do with the last clip I played, and maybe I'll go to this next clip I clipped out, but...
The way you were expressing yourself reminded me of a quote from Winston Churchill that said, I don't double down on what I assume to be true.
I go, okay, that's new information.
I better change my mind now.
I'd rather be right than consistent.
Winston Churchill. I'm not going to continue to be wrong just so I can maintain consistency in my belief.
That's sort of a spirit I get from you that it's not just about You know, being open-minded or being, you know, calm and rational to convince other people.
But it's also so you're able to be convinced and you're able to be open to the truth, even if it's not what you expected.
So just what's sort of your philosophy on that?
And have you found that this has served you well in your time?
I think it has. Just being totally open.
You don't look like a fool.
You know, you don't double down on something that, you know, gets discovered to be wrong later and you have to go, oh, No, no, it's wrong.
I ignore that. You're able to just go, oh, okay, I must have been wrong before.
So what? I'm right now.
I don't know. That's the spirit I've gotten from you.
an0maly
Dropping gems here. Dropping some wisdom.
Absolutely. Part of that, you know, I relate to reading certain books and teaching me about gratefulness, appreciation, the present moment, and also how attachment and expectations can lead to fear, anger, misery, stuff that no one likes.
So... As I've gotten older, I've gotten wiser, I think.
And it is true where either you like the truth or you don't.
So I'm not really attached to anything.
And it is a very freeing feeling where I'm not a fool.
And I also like the quote where if your brain's too open, then it falls out.
Where it's like, I feel like that's what liberal America has done.
Their brain's so open, they're like, gender doesn't exist.
And I could be any weight.
And it's like, you can be any weight and it's okay.
But like, it's not healthy at a certain point.
You're going to put a lot of pressure on your organs.
Like, So you don't want to be too open-minded, but I'm not attached to anything, and it bothers people on all sides.
I talked about Jewish people a couple months ago, and I got called an anti-Semite and a Zionist in the same exact stream.
So someone saw it and was like, you're working for Israel, and then someone said it, and you hate Israelis.
I'm like... I was like, that's crazy that you perceived it that way.
But I'm not attached to anything and everyone wants me to pick a side a lot.
I mean, clearly I like libertarian values and they make sense.
But yeah, I'm open to new information.
And if I'm presented with it, if it makes sense, I'm not afraid to say that.
harrison smith
Yeah, yeah. And we get exactly the same thing here.
That's like the perpetual, you know, Infowars limbo where we're halfway between being like, you know, Zionist shills and just white supremacists.
It's like the same person can think we're both and we're just like, whatever.
We're just telling you the truth.
If you want to interpret that.
Weirdly, then that's entirely up to you.
I guess that's the problem with just literally just trying to tell the truth and not having these preconceived notions as everybody else is working in this world.
We're trying to separate ourselves from that world.
We're trying to be free of these labels and of these corners that people try to put us in.
In fact, that has to do with this other clip I clipped out.
I'd like to go to this now. This is from that same live stream that we went to earlier.
And I really think you say it very well right here.
This is clip 17, guys.
Let's go to that now, and then we'll get sort of your follow-up on the other side.
an0maly
I'm not going to lie. I'll listen to everybody, and the more I listen to the people they tell me not to listen to, the more I like them.
From Farrakhan to even people on the far right, like, I'll listen to their argument, and a lot of them are less hateful and less racist than the media.
And then they'll act like that's my fault.
Like, is it my fault that the mainstream media and the tech companies are responsible for millions of deaths, a refugee crisis that destroyed parts of Libya, slavery in Libya?
Vice News, liberal alt-right hipster people literally were cheering it on.
Slavery in Africa, displacement, and pure chaos in the Middle East.
Pure destruction in Europe.
These news sources are responsible for all that.
Even if David Duke was a bad person 40 years ago, or still is today, although listening to him, he makes more sense than New York Times.
And that's not, they would try to smear me and be like anomalies.
No, it's not my fault that you're more racist, more sexist, more xenophobic, more hateful, hate kids, kill kids, kill people overseas, start wars, displace people.
That's your fault. The media, all they do is label people.
I don't care if they're alt-right communists.
He's not a communist, but I can listen to Farrakhan and agree with 60%.
And I'd much rather listen to Farrakhan than CNN or, to be honest, Fox News.
Besides Tucker on Fox News, none of it really interests me.
It's all a bunch of echo chamber right-wing stuff.
It's like, it's okay. It's boring to me.
Is that my fault that I want to listen to them instead of you talking about them?
It's annoying. I don't care who's alt-right or alt-left or communist or Muslim or Christian or far-right.
What are they saying?
Is it true? Is it false?
Are they killing millions of people and killing babies and starting wars?
Probably not. That's the mainstream media.
That's HuffPost. That's Vox.
That's Vice. That's New York Times.
They're allowing for the Murder of a nine-month-old baby mid-birth and don't see a problem with it.
They're facilitating and helping wean our country towards these wars that make absolutely no sense, that are very unpopular on the left wing and the right wing.
So... I'm just tired of them smearing it.
Like, I get it. Yeah. I don't know how people feel here, but it's like, I don't care if you're a communist or a nationalist or a socialist or like, we can talk about titles, but I don't want you to get banned.
harrison smith
So, you know, I sort of hesitate to use that clip because anytime you evoke the names of David Duke or Farrakhan, people will box you into that.
But I thought you expressed it really well right there, that it's like the things that the mainstream media are pushing are so dangerous and devilish and wicked and cruel and all these sorts of things that it really, you know, it really pales in comparison anything that they try to stick on anybody else.
I just thought you expressed that really well, but I just want to get your follow-up to that.
an0maly
Yeah, what I'm saying is it's not my fault that the mainstream media and a lot of media sources are extremely racist, extremely sexist, extremely xenophobic, extremely anti-certain religion, and they don't allow discussion where I saw that David Duke supported Tulsi Gabbard and they started smearing her like Trump.
And I'm not even a huge, huge fan of hers, but I think she's better than others.
So I just listened to what he was saying, and I'm like, I just came to the epiphany where I'm like, wow, it's actually less racist.
And it's like, they could take that out of context and make it seem crazy, but that's not my fault that they're...
20 times as racist, and even like Farrakhan, he's very interesting to me.
And so is, say, Howard Schultz, because I want to go to someone who, I don't know what David Duke is, but like, you know, white person that's extreme, black person that's extreme and Muslim, and now someone that's Jewish, like Howard Schultz.
He's getting crushed by the media.
You know, they're making him seem insane, but he's basically just saying the two-party system's not working, and I don't like far-left communism, and they're treating him like he's the worst I'm not responsible for what David or Farrakhan or even Howard Schultz did in their life or what they're doing.
I'm just saying, if I listen to a 10-minute clip of them, and then I'll listen to what people say about them, and then I'll listen to a 10-minute clip of the mainstream media, Who wanted to march into Libya and kill the leader?
And I'm not saying Gaddafi is perfect either, but there's slavery in Libya.
Vice has a tweet that's still out there.
They're cheering on the rebels killing him.
So where's the retraction?
Where's the apology? Where's the left wing that's like, dude, this baby's about to be born.
And they're like, yeah, let's just kill it if the woman has slight mental health problems.
It just doesn't make sense to me.
And this is a call to them to be like, listen, Self-reflect and be self-accountable.
If you're becoming worse and more crazy and more racist and more sexist and more war-hungry than the worst of the worst and the fringe people on the left and the right and the black and the white, then that says way more about you and your media source than it does about me.
And it's an extreme point to make, but it's a matrix-breaking thought, and that's all I'm trying to do is make people think.
harrison smith
Yeah, and I couldn't agree with you more.
Hey, Farrakhan says very interesting things.
I don't agree with David Duke, but I don't want him banned.
I actually trust the American people.
I trust people as a whole to be able to take in information and make their own decisions.
We don't need the MSM deciding what's good or what's bad.
And you could replace any of those names with Alex Jones.
And they smear him just as badly as they smear everybody else.
So, hey, what are you going to do?
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harrison smith
Welcome back, folks.
Anomaly is my guest.
Harrison Smith sitting in for Owen Schroer on The War Room.
You know, I've had such great guests today.
I've hardly had time to...
Go to any headlines, really, to talk about the major news going on right now.
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But... Anomaly, you're sort of, in a lot of ways, sort of a living white pill.
You know, they talk about the red pill.
That's when you break the matrix and you wake up and realize how crazy everything is.
The black pill is kind of like, well, there's nothing we can do.
Just accept death and sadness and misery and just give in to it.
And the white pill is saying, no, we're on the right track.
Humanity will survive.
We will not succumb to this to this tyranny and to this, you know, just mechanization that they're trying to saddle us with.
So just a couple headlines.
I mean, you have Elizabeth Warren suggesting that Trump's going to go to prison.
Maxine Waters acting up.
You have all this bad news.
You have all this just just horrible censorship from from Apple and and and Google and all these other places.
But then on the other side, you have Trump polling at 52 percent, which is good.
If you're on our side, you have this massive Trump, Emperor Trump, God, Emperor Trump soaring five stories over the streets of Italy.
You have the yellow vest just really staging a revolution there in France.
You know, so you have good news, too.
So just where do you see the the trajectory of humanity going as we move forward into the future anomaly or you?
Are you white-pilled? Are you excited and optimistic about the future?
Or do you think time to bunker down, like this is getting bad?
Where do you land on that?
an0maly
I'm optimistic because even if you have like a day to live, you know, you got to enjoy it.
So, you know, I don't know where it's going to go per se, but I'm very optimistic.
But I want to say this about the other clip, too, because I'm sure that could easily be taken out of context and misconstrued.
I'm going to reference which I did in that stream, too.
That wasn't put in there, but...
There's documentaries on Netflix by Daryl Davis, and he's a black jazz musician who successfully made the most KKK members quit the KKK. He did so through love and compassion and being so cool that people realized that they weren't racist by reaching out to them and really hearing their concerns and their fears.
That's kind of an ideology, I believe, and people want me to hate.
The right wants me to hate Farrakhan.
They want me to hate them. They want me to hate Alex Jones, and I don't really hate anybody.
There's people I strongly dislike and don't agree with, but I don't want to be the crazy one or the out-of-control It doesn't work.
And the point I'm really trying to make is the mainstream media and the tech companies, they claim that they're loving and compassionate and that they're pro-everybody and they're pro-equality, but they're actually really the most racist, crazy ones.
Yeah, there's a lot of amazing things going on, always.
There's a lot of not-so-good things, but I believe in self-accountability, self-reflection, and if you work hard, especially in this country, you can fill the gap.
My good spin on it is no one did good news that I liked, so I started doing it.
It's going to be a crazy couple years for sure, but why live your life focusing on the negative?
harrison smith
It doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
And that's why I say, you know, I apologize if that clip maybe seemed like a little bit out of context or something.
And I did hesitate because anytime you bring up these types of people, they are going to smear you and try to box you into something.
But I thought you did a really good job of explaining just what you meant.
And I have faith in our audience, and I think they understand it as well, that really what you're talking about is...
Yeah, yeah. It's just the evil of the mainstream media and, yeah, how these big bad guys that they try to, you know, portray as the worst of the worst.
It's like, yeah, they advocate some bad stuff, but they're not the ones getting us into war and killing babies.
I just thought you explained that really well.
an0maly
Yeah, no, and I'll just kind of double down on this point where it's not my fault if they're more racist than who they say is the most racist person.
And I'm only saying that because I was blown away where I'm just like listening to And I'm not saying it's a flawless...
Like, that's what people... I'm not saying everything they say is right.
What I'm saying is when I read the news, it's purely based on race.
It's purely based on sex.
It's so racist and sexist.
It's disgusting to me as somebody that doesn't like racism and sexism.
So it's like, they'll make me out to be the crazy one, but it shows a lot about you.
If you're 20 times worse than the worst person that you hate, it's like people are becoming what they hate.
And it's crazy because I... I really don't like racism, and people are calling me saying, Anomaly, I don't like Trump.
People close to me, they're Democrat their whole life, even these last year or two, they're going to vote for Trump because they're tired of the hypocrisy of the media elites where you can't do blackface, and then they do blackface.
They're like, no, no, no, I'm different.
People are tired of this stuff, and I don't understand why they won't stop.
It's all good. It's probably not...
The best one to play, not in full context, but it is what it is.
If it takes something extreme to make people really take a step back and realize what's effective, because I believe in the Daryl Davis strategy of not being foolish or naive, but being so kind and compassionate for all races, religions, and genders, people like Imam Twahidi, he's making conservatives hate Muslims left because he's a Muslim who's calling out his own people.
Someone like a Howard Schultz makes people less anti-Semitic because he's calling out the two-party system.
That's the way you really crush anti-Semitism and racism.
I just did a stream.
People are thinking, misconstruing everything I say now, but I'm like, listen, I'm trying to help you because if you don't understand this, people are going to start blaming entire groups of people, whether it be white, Jewish, male.
We got to stomp out our own problems.
harrison smith
Yeah, I could not agree more.
I guess it says something about our state of discourse here in the country where we can't even bring up somebody as an illustration of a big bad guy without people going, ha, you said his name.
Now you're him, basically.
It's like... It's just so insane, but we can't let that stop us from actually talking about this stuff and actually putting these ideas out there.
And it's something I've talked about before, you know, just about getting up here and not having a teleprompter and just speaking my mind is like, I know myself.
I know I'm not a racist. I know I'm not a collectivist of any sort.
I have nothing but goodwill for all sorts of people, race, color, and creed.
It doesn't matter. So why should I fear that?
It seems to me that you're the same way.
It's just like, I'm going to say exactly what I think.
Even though I know you're going to take it the wrong way, whoever's out there listening and looking for something to misconstrue and looking for something to smear me with, hey, that's on you.
If you want to do that, good luck.
You can do that. But what I'm saying comes from a place of love and a place of compassion and a place of Anti-racism, anti-collectivism, all that sort of stuff.
I want everybody to be free, so why should I not speak my mind?
And I think you come from the same place.
an0maly
Absolutely. And if Trump likes water, I'm not going to pretend I don't like water.
If Hillary likes water, I can't pretend I don't like water.
If Farrakhan or David Duke or anyone, if they say five things I agree with and five things I disagree, I'm the type of person that I look for similarities.
Everybody looks for what they hate.
I don't like Ilhan Omar.
I don't agree with her policies.
I don't like her personality.
But if she says something that actually makes sense, and then everyone says it's a lie just because they hate her, it's not a good idea.
And it's not helping Jewish people.
That's where people go, Anomaly, I'm trying to help you because you're feeding the alt-right.
You're feeding the alt-left. You're giving them exactly what they're looking for.
They want to blame you for everything, and if you don't take accountability for one thing out of ten things, you're proving them right in a weird way and making it Like feeding their echo chamber of what they believe.
So, you know, it is annoying to me where if someone I can't stand, even Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, so annoying, but she had a good five minute video where she called out lobbyists.
I'm like, she has a point there.
I don't agree with this.
And then the anomaly, you like Alex?
No, you like David? No, I'm just saying what he just said in this context makes sense.
Did the whole thing? You can listen to it, and you can decide, and you can take things you did.
But that's how I am even with Farrakhan and stuff, where it's like, I'd be lying if I listened to a 20-minute interview.
His agenda's not my agenda.
Clearly, he's, you know, Nation of Islam, black, and I'm Yeah, I would probably be a little bit angrier too if I was an 88-year-old black Muslim man in America.
And people don't want to hear that, but I'm here to break the matrix and make people think and consider.
It is what it is, but I've definitely been going down some crazier paths just to be like, hey, like a little shock therapy.
I'm like, hey, wake up. I know you don't want to hear it, but you need to.
harrison smith
Yeah, hey, no, it's all about breaking the matrix.
It's all about introducing yourself to ideas that you maybe first recoil from.
Then you go, no, hold on. Now, somebody believes this, so I better try to get into their mind for a moment and understand where they're coming from.
Even if I disagree, then I can actually fight against it.
Then I know where they're coming from, and I can at least empathize with them, and then I can make my argument.
I trust the people.
I think... Thank you so much for being with us.
That is The War Room.
Harrison Smith signing off.
I will see you on Wednesday, Rob Dew, tomorrow.
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