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Donald J. Trump is president of the United States. | |
| Trigger warning. | ||
| This broadcast contains subject matter that might trigger liberal snowflakes. | ||
| It's The War Room with Owen Troyer. | ||
| So... I'm not. | ||
| Where to begin? President Trump telling NATO leaders, you're not going to take advantage of America anymore. | ||
| You're not going to engage in unfair trade worldwide. | ||
| But when it comes to NATO, you're not going to charge us more than any other country. | ||
| And then we do the most of the legwork, too. | ||
| You know, it's actually funny. I was going to come on in this first five minutes before Roger joins me on the other side. | ||
| And then Craig Sawyer at 4 o'clock, Robert Spencer 4.30, Jake Lloyd 5 o'clock, Jack Berman 5.30. | ||
| So loaded with guests here today. | ||
| I was going to cover the new Democrat donors and liberal Trump haters that Mueller has just added to his fake Russia probe. | ||
| The story at thedailybeast.com inside Mueller's new army. | ||
| Yeah, don't you know Mueller is now... | ||
| He's the real president, is Robert Mueller. | ||
| It's not Donald Trump. | ||
| Mueller is the real president. | ||
| Not Donald Trump. We're good to go. | ||
| Who is leading a fake investigation, a fake probe into Russian collusion. | ||
| And now he has hired more Democrat donors and liberal Trump haters to his quote-unquote new army. | ||
| That's according to the Daily Beast, Betsy Woodruff, his new army. | ||
| So Mueller gets an army to look into something that doesn't even exist. | ||
| Manafort goes to jail for alleged attempting. | ||
| You fill in the blank there. | ||
| Alleged attempting. He's in jail. | ||
| 23-hour solitary confinement. | ||
| Alleged attempting. Don't tell me witness tampering. | ||
| Alleged attempting. That's what he's in jail for. | ||
| Alleged attempting. This is a witch hunt. | ||
| It's a political prisoner. | ||
| And then I saw my stack of NATO news here, and it made me think of something. | ||
| Kind of like the Iran deal. | ||
| Kind of like the quote-unquote kids being separated from their families or put in cages. | ||
| There's all these issues that come up that the media tries to blame on Trump, but what ends up happening is the real light is shed on the actual issue, and so then people have a greater understanding about it. | ||
| Look at the Iran deal. | ||
| Look at what was happening to families at the border, which, by the way, I've got a story on that. | ||
| I mean, it's just so ridiculous. | ||
| The fake news, the lies of the Democrats. | ||
| I mean, it's really just unbelievable. | ||
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And again, you just wonder, are they that stupid? | |
| I mean, are they really that stupid? | ||
| Or are they just that big of liars? | ||
| So Mueller gets five new or six new people, Democrat donors, liberal Trump haters, to his fake investigation, which is still going on. | ||
| But what I'm saying is with NATO, think about it like this. | ||
| So now everybody is going to say, look at Donald Trump isolating America. | ||
| Look at Donald Trump standing up to NATO. How dare he? | ||
| He's doing it for Russia. | ||
| He's going to hurt America. | ||
| He is spitting in the face of American allies. | ||
| This is what they're saying about how Trump is approaching NATO leaders right now. | ||
| Well, you know what? How about this? | ||
| How about what the hell does NATO even do? | ||
| Seriously. Like, that's what I should do. | ||
| It's like, I should go out on the street and be like, Hi, what does NATO stand for? | ||
| Duh, I don't know. | ||
| What does NATO do? | ||
| What is NATO for? Uh, I don't know. | ||
| So here we are giving hundreds of millions of dollars to NATO. What does it even do? | ||
| What, what, what? | ||
| How does NATO better your life? | ||
| They say we need NATO... For our own protection. | ||
| Why don't we just keep our own money and protect ourselves? | ||
| What is NATO? Who is screwing us over with NATO? Maybe now we'll find out. | ||
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| It's Wednesday, July 11, 2018. 2018. | ||
| This is The War Room. | ||
| I'm your host, Owen Troyer. My co-host, Roger Stone, joins me in the first hour. | ||
| Craig Sawyer joins me in the second hour. | ||
| He's going to talk about everything he witnessed being a part of the rescue of the 12 children and the one coach in Thailand. | ||
| Then Robert Spencer joins me, author of The History of Jihad, jihadwatch.org. | ||
| I'm really intrigued by what's going on in Europe right now. | ||
| I don't even know how you explain this, other than just saying, if you're a Muslim in Europe, you have a different legal system than everyone else. | ||
| That's the best way I could describe it, but we'll get Robert Spencer's take on that. | ||
| Then Jake Lloyd joins me in studio in the 5 o'clock hour, and then in the final 5.30, half hour of the war room, Jack Berman joins me from jackberkmanradio.com. | ||
| And of course, he was the one that organized the press conference yesterday over the Seth Rich unsolved murder. | ||
| So, a stocked show with guests here today. | ||
| Roger, I'm not sure what is leading your news stories today. | ||
| I'm kind of in no man's land today, to be perfectly honest with you. | ||
| Whether it's This Mueller probe that just continues to go on. | ||
| I mean, it's just ridiculous that this is still going on. | ||
| The NATO thing. | ||
| Oh, you know, how dare Trump stand up to NATO and say that other people in NATO pay their fair share? | ||
| Like, oh, why don't we just let America be taken advantage of? | ||
| Like, what's wrong with Trump? | ||
| I don't know if it's the Chuck Schumers, the Eric Swalwells that are members of Congress that just seem to be totally living on a different planet or just outright liars. | ||
| I mean, it's all kind of just floating around today, Roger. | ||
| It's a lot to take in. | ||
| First of all, let's talk about the situation in Europe. | ||
| It seems to me that the president goes to Europe and he urinates on Vladimir Putin's most important economic enterprise. | ||
| He exposes their alliance with the Germans. | ||
| Merkel is of course formerly from East Germany and has a leftist background. | ||
| He also has some tough love message for our NATO partners, that they need to pay up their fair share, that we're not going to continue to carry the bulk of the burden, allegedly, by the way, for their protection against an aggressive Russia. | ||
| That's the purpose of NATO. Just since Trump's presidency, they have coughed up an additional $650 million that they owed. | ||
| Donald Trump is tired of the American taxpayers being taken for suckers. | ||
| NATO was set up and its funding mechanism was designed at a time that we were rich and prosperous and they were recovering from World War II. Now they are rich and prosperous and our economy under Obama has been in a slump. | ||
| And it is time for them to bear their fair share of this burden. | ||
| But the idea that CNN rolls out again and again and again, that Trump went over there and somehow rolled over for Putin, or that he was embracing Putin to the detriment of our NATO allies, is a phony narrative. | ||
| And their headlines and chyrons and crawls are as biased and as overt and as obvious as can be. | ||
| As for the Mueller probe, I think most Americans don't recognize that the special counsel law in which previous special counsels in Iran, in Watergate, Arangate, and other previous scandals that were investigated were regulated by a federal law in which a three-judge federal panel oversaw the activities of the special counsel. | ||
| And they would all have to sign off on an expansion into other areas not specified in their charge. | ||
| That does not exist today. | ||
| That law has expired. | ||
| Mr. Mueller reports only to Mr. | ||
| Rosenstein, his associate of many years. | ||
| Now, the New York Times reported that Rosenstein, who wrote the president a memo telling him how and why to fire James Comey, was outraged when the president made that letter public. | ||
| That's because he was exposed as the weasel that he is. | ||
| Robert Mueller's appointment, based on the anger and disappointment and furor of Rosenstein, as recorded by the New York Times, is his payback to the president. | ||
| But Mr. Mueller doesn't answer to anybody. | ||
| Any federal prosecutor with unfettered... | ||
| And no oversight from any other body, either legislative or judicial, can drag any Republican in front of an Obama-appointed judge and have them convicted of anything they want. | ||
| This is an outrageous left-wing army that is being put together for the destruction and deconstruction of Donald Trump's administration and the people who got him elected. | ||
| It must be stopped. | ||
| And the sooner, the better. | ||
| There is my take on your two big issues. | ||
| You have an amazing lineup today, Owen. | ||
| I'm going to try to watch most of the show. | ||
| Well, and I'm glad that I had this lineup today. | ||
| Because like I said, Roger, I don't know. | ||
| I'm in a weird mental place today where it's just like... | ||
| I can sit here and I can tell you how fake the news is. | ||
| I can tell you how fake the news is all day. | ||
| I can show you how ridiculous the Democrats are all day. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, when are people just going to get it? | ||
| Are they finally getting it? But you know what, Roger? | ||
| I've got something for you today. | ||
| Being as how you are the bastion of knowing how to dress properly and fashion. | ||
| I don't know if you've heard about this one, though, Roger. | ||
| Now... The Robert Mueller Mueller probe, they've taken things to another level here, Roger. | ||
| This is being reported by The Hill. | ||
| Office of Special Counsel looking into Ryan Zinke's MAGA socks. | ||
| That's right. The U.S. Office of the Special Counsel has opened a case file on whether the photo that Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke posted to his social media that featured MAGA socks may have something to do with a violation of federal ethics laws. | ||
| So, I mean, look at that, Roger. | ||
| I mean, you never thought that fashion could wind you up in jail. | ||
| You know, look, I once produced a pair of Eliot Spitzer knee-high black socks, which you could buy online and blazoned with his name on them. | ||
| So I understand the issue. | ||
| But it shows you that this is a jihad against Republicans, Owen. | ||
| This is an inquisition in which every nook and cranny will be investigated to find some ridiculous infraction to try to embarrass or take down the administration. | ||
| The Bloomberg stories of a week ago really told the story. | ||
| Mr. Mueller's going to issue a final report in October just before the election. | ||
| It's going to allege, I predict, that the president has violated some law and that will be used as the basis for an impeachment drive in the general election in November. | ||
| Well, I've also gotten intel here. | ||
| This is an InfoWars exclusive that Robert Mueller found a ham sandwich, an old ham sandwich, in his fridge last night. | ||
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| Well, I won't back down. | ||
| Loaded broadcast today. | ||
| Roger Stone with me here still in the first hour. | ||
| Craig Sawyer, Robert Spencer, Jake Lloyd, Jack Berkman all joining me for the rest of the show. | ||
| Fun to hear from Craig Sawyer talking about what he experienced being in Thailand, being a part of that cave rescue. | ||
| It'll be interesting to hear about what Robert Spencer thinks about what's going on in Europe right now, where, again, just for lack of a better way to describe it, if you're a Muslim in Europe, you have a different judicial system or legal system than anyone else. | ||
| It's really incredible. | ||
| You look at what Tommy Robinson gets put in jail for, you look at what quote-unquote Muslim migrants don't get jail time for but just community service hours. | ||
| I mean, it's Honestly, it's like I'm at a loss for words. | ||
| Jake Lloyd in studio with me. | ||
| I'm sure we'll do maybe some laughing at liberals news or something with him. | ||
| And then Jack Berkman joins me to talk about the Seth Rich press conference yesterday. | ||
| But Roger has said he isn't willing to take your phone calls in the final two segments of this hour. | ||
| So if you call in, we're going to aggregate your calls in this segment and then the final two segments this hour. | ||
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| Roger. Again, this is why today I'm just in a weird mental state right here. | ||
| Because it's like the same thing. | ||
| Okay, so I'll come on here and I'll report on real Russian collusion. | ||
| You know, Hillary making Uranium One deals. | ||
| Bill Clinton receiving half a million dollars for speeches. | ||
| Okay, there's some real Russian collusion. | ||
| Hillary Clinton paying Russian entities through Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS for dirt on Donald Trump. | ||
| The same thing they're trying to bring Donald Trump down for doing that he never did. | ||
| And now you have this whole NATO thing with Germany, where Germany is basically, their entire, you know, energy sector, you could say, is run by Russia, okay? | ||
| But how is that not Russian collusion? | ||
| So, to me, it's just like the same thing. | ||
| I mean, I don't know, Roger. Today, I have beating my head against the wall fatigue. | ||
| I guess that's what I would call it. I have beating my head against the wall fatigue today, Roger. | ||
| I don't think, perhaps you're not just seeing the larger context of where this is going. | ||
| We're about to have a giant coalition in this country, one that could end up in front of the Supreme Court, but could end up, sadly, in the streets. | ||
| The globalist left is hysterical about the Trump administration and the success of his policies and his steadfastness so far, and they're going to attempt to take him out. | ||
| They're in a defensive position because they have to hide the narrative of their use of the state and its authority through the illegal use of FISA warrants, unmasking, FBI infiltration, all government run by the intelligence agencies against Donald Trump's campaign. | ||
| They do this by trying to distract us to a different narrative, that it's Trump who's in bed with the Russians. | ||
| But the only thing they can really point to is that he borrowed money from Deutsche Bank, and Deutsche Bank might have some Russian investors. | ||
| So their empty collusion argument is meant as a cover-up, as a distraction from what really happened. | ||
| Their media, most of the mainstream media, is going to report it their way. | ||
| Trump is a villain affiliated with Russia. | ||
| Don't look behind the curtain at those FISA warrants. | ||
| And Steph Halper is just a kindly old professor. | ||
| And our media and more grassroots are going to tell the American people our side of the story. | ||
| That they tried to hijack an election unconstitutionally. | ||
| And they hijacked the power and the authority and the machinery of the state to do so. | ||
| A constitutional violation that makes Watergate look like... | ||
| A second-rate burglary. | ||
| So this is an epic struggle, and it's going to be fought out. | ||
| They're going to try to remove our president. | ||
| Don't have any doubt about that. | ||
| We are going to resist that. | ||
| They have a three-point plan that we now know. | ||
| Rig our voting machines. | ||
| That's why on the Alex Jones Show today and yesterday on The War Room, reported about how two royalist billionaires protected by the Queen have gone into business with George Soros to get control of the software in 90% of the electronic computerized voting machines reported about how two royalist billionaires protected by the Queen have gone into business Second, take away our firearms. | ||
| Take away our Second Amendment rights. | ||
| Third, take away our First Amendment rights. | ||
| Shut us off of YouTube, Facebook, Twitter. | ||
| Take away our telephones if they could, but shut us down. | ||
| Take away our ability to protest our treatment. | ||
| And then lastly, stage a coup in which Donald Trump is removed one way or another. | ||
| This cataclysmic crash is coming. | ||
| The special counsel is a killing machine aimed at Republicans with no governors on them within our system. | ||
| This is a dangerous situation for the president. | ||
| You can already see Mueller setting up a confrontation with the president over his willingness to sit down for an interrogation. | ||
| But Roger, I think you would agree with me though. | ||
| I think you would agree with me. | ||
| I'm not really even concerned with Mueller and the Russia probe. | ||
| We know there's no collusion. | ||
| We know that Trump has all the cards, the ace up his sleeve, if Mueller really wants to go there. | ||
| It's not even that I'm worried about that. | ||
| I'm just sick of it existing. | ||
| We know it's fake. | ||
| We know the whole thing is political. | ||
| That's my beef. And they use it to drive a wedge into the country, and half of the American... | ||
| Well, I don't know how much the American public actually buys it. | ||
| It's probably not half. It's probably closer to 20%. | ||
| But they're so loud it feels like half. | ||
| So that's my real beef here. | ||
| It's like they just continue this lie. | ||
| They continue this fake investigation. | ||
| It's like I know it's fake. | ||
| You know it's fake. Trump knows it's fake. | ||
| Mueller knows it's fake. Schumer knows it's fake. | ||
| Everybody knows it's fake. But we just do it. | ||
| We just continue to do it and spend these millions of dollars. | ||
| Roger, real quick though. Before we go to this break, I want to talk to you real quick about the appointment of Judge Kavanaugh. | ||
| Obviously, this was not our first pick, and I have a couple headlines here. | ||
| First, you have the Democrats saying that they're going to try to block Kavanaugh. | ||
| It's not going to work. He's going to get voted through. | ||
| McCain likes him. That may raise some red flags. | ||
| But some Democrats are saying that he must recuse himself from the Mueller case. | ||
| Okay, so they're afraid that Kavanaugh may do the right thing there. | ||
| You have Judge Napolitano saying he's the heart and soul of the establishment. | ||
| Well, he does come from the Bushes. | ||
| But he has had, I think it was a dozen opinions moved into the Supreme Court that influenced it. | ||
| So he had a good, I think, resume as far as to get in. | ||
| But what are you thinking right now when it comes to the appointment of Judge Kavanaugh? | ||
| Not my first choice, both because of his close relationship with the Bushes and specifically with Karl Rove, and the fact that he had played a minor but significant role in the cover-up in the death inquiry of Clinton lawyer Vince Foster. | ||
| I think he violated an American civil liberties in that process. | ||
| But he is now the president's choice, and therefore I am for him. | ||
| I think this idea that he was somehow picked for the court to stop the Mueller probe is bunk. | ||
| I think that's manufactured nonsense from Chuck Schumer. | ||
| It is interesting, however, that now two clerks of Anthony Kennedy's are on the bench. | ||
| And what was the back chatter between the retiring Supreme Court Justice and the President? | ||
| It is known that Kennedy was a strong supporter of Kavanaugh among the field that strangely expanded to four by Sunday. | ||
| So the President said Saturday, I've got it down to two or three, and then suddenly Sunday it was four as Thomas Hardiman was... | ||
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| Warning. This broadcast is not for the weak-minded. | ||
| It's The War Room with Owen Schroer and Roger Stone. | ||
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| Oh, boy. | ||
| Why won't these... | ||
| Sheeple protesting in the street. | ||
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Just get a job. Just get a job. | |
| They're out there. You don't have to be on the street protesting every day. | ||
| Do something with your life. | ||
| So, we have opened up the phone lines for the next two segments. | ||
| Your questions for Roger Stone or your comments here on The War Room. | ||
| 888-201-2244. | ||
| Of course, Roger breaking news on some British royalty buying up the electronic voting machine software companies so they can essentially have a monopoly on that. | ||
| You know, what does that mean? | ||
| I don't know. Nobody else will debate it except right here at Infowars. | ||
| So we got a couple callers that want to talk about that. | ||
| Let's go to Mitch calling in from Louisiana. | ||
| Go ahead, Mitch. I'm sorry, Mitch. | ||
| We got cut off there. | ||
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Go ahead and start over. I appreciate you having me on. | |
| You both are just spectacular men in every way. | ||
| We have got to pound this voting machine issue. | ||
| Pound it like tomorrow's bread. | ||
| Please, gentlemen, don't stop. | ||
| With every other breath, I know you have a plethora times 10 of news to cover that no one else will touch but these voting machines. | ||
| I've seen it done. | ||
| I've seen people paid and bused to vote. | ||
| Police pound it. | ||
| Well, we plan on pounding it. | ||
| And again, I'm not trying to come on here and make everyone a conspiracy theorist, you know, Roger, but it's kind of just simple. | ||
| It's like, look, I mean, you know, I'm sorry if I don't trust an electronic voting machine. | ||
| It can be hacked. I'm not even making up any conspiracy theories. | ||
| We're telling you, these are the people that own them, and it's possible to be hacked. | ||
| It's been shown, Roger. It's actually quite simple. | ||
| A voting machine is a very basic computer. | ||
| And a Wisconsin college professor wrote a terrific analysis of Wisconsin elections where exit polling showed the results quite different than the results that were reflected in the machines that were all connected to a central server. | ||
| When I wrote about this danger in The Hill... | ||
| Before the 2016 election, I was ridiculed by David Brock and Media Matters and the rest of the left of being a crazed conspiracy theorist. | ||
| But then, when Hillary and Jill Stein teamed up to ask for recounts in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, they were based on one principle only. | ||
| Their argument was... | ||
| That these simple computerized voting machines are easily hacked and manipulated. | ||
| That shows you the hypocrisy of the left. | ||
| So, yes, brother, we're on this issue and we won't stop talking about it. | ||
| Thanks for your call. | ||
| And I do believe it was either Pennsylvania or Michigan where they did the recount and Hillary ended up actually losing votes. | ||
| And so they quit making a news issue out of that because it didn't go the way that they thought it would. | ||
| But again... We're not trying to peddle conspiracy theories here. | ||
| First of all, there's laws in multiple states, including here in Texas, that say you have to have a paper record. | ||
| We don't have that law followed thanks to the Texas election commissioner here. | ||
| They break the law. So at least we should have the paper backup. | ||
| They don't even do that. I'm sorry, but I just want to go to paper ballots, you know. | ||
| I get it. Computers are easier, all that stuff. | ||
| Well, guess what? They're easy to hack. | ||
| And if the left wants to cry Russian collusion, Russian hacking all day, well, why don't they call for paper ballots? | ||
| You can't hack that. Guess that's not what they really want. | ||
| Let's go now to... | ||
| Go ahead, Roger. Well, let me just say this, because it needs to be said. | ||
| I don't want to say anything, Owen, but you live in a state that is famous for voter fraud. | ||
| Lyndon Baines Johnson stole his way into his first U.S. Senate term. | ||
| Vote-stealing in the Texas election of 1960 helped give the presidency to John F. Kennedy when combined with the vote-stealing in Chicago, Illinois. | ||
| So it's not surprising that the election board is not... | ||
| Following the law. | ||
| Thank you for your call. | ||
| Let's take another caller. We have Terry in Massachusetts calling in. | ||
| Go ahead, Terry. Hi, Owen. | ||
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It's a pleasure to talk to you. | |
| And hello, Roger. | ||
| I'm a big fan. | ||
| I'm calling because I really don't understand how British royals can get control of our voting machines. | ||
| It's outrageous to me as an American. | ||
| That they would have anything to do with our voting. | ||
| I mean, they go on and on about Russia, Russia, Russia. | ||
| What about England? | ||
| How about the fact that the royal family... | ||
| You're exactly right. It is outrageous. | ||
| So, Associates of the Queen have essentially come up with an insidious plan. | ||
| They didn't acquire the actual companies, Sequoia, Diebold and the others. | ||
| They merely got a monopoly on the software. | ||
| This is like that movie, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. | ||
| You have these two royals, one of them a lord, the other one a knight, and they are favorites of the queen, members of the queen's privy council. | ||
| They have their own seal, which we showed you yesterday on the war room, and they operate under the protection of the queen. | ||
| They happen to be close associates of George Soros, partners of George Soros, and most likely partners with him in this enterprise. | ||
| Consequently, their insidious plan to control the 2018 and 2020 elections, I think, is now clear. | ||
| Thanks for your call. | ||
| All right, let's squeeze in one more here before the break. | ||
| Let's go to Tim calling in from my hometown of St. | ||
| Louis, at least where I was born and raised. | ||
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Go ahead, Tim. Owen and Roger, it is a pleasure to speak with both of you. | |
| Owen, like you, I'm former radio here in St. | ||
| Louis, so I'm with you, brother. | ||
| Roger, it is a pleasure to speak with you. | ||
| We won't get into local St. | ||
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| Roger, I just finished your book last night. | ||
| It is magnificent. | ||
| I will be sending it to you to have it signed. | ||
| I love it. It is terrific. | ||
| Please pick that up. Thank you. | ||
| My question is very simple. | ||
| You're very welcome. My question is very simple. | ||
| Why is Jeff Sessions still employed? | ||
| Take it, Roger. It's a superb question. | ||
| I cannot tell whether Jeff Sessions is very clear that he's been neutered. | ||
| The question is whether he is senile or just not terribly bright or whether he's in some way been compromised. | ||
| Here is a guy who was a lion in the Senate on the immigration issue, but now he stands aside while Mueller and Rosenstein try to dismantle the man who appointed him. | ||
| This doesn't make much sense. | ||
| I don't know why he had to recuse himself. | ||
| There was nothing improper with his conduct with the Russian ambassador. | ||
| He's a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee at the time. | ||
| Social contact with a Russian national is not out of the ordinary. | ||
| Because of the Democrat hysteria, any social contact with any Russian national suddenly become a crime. | ||
| It's extraordinary. | ||
| But it's not illegal to meet with a Russian by Jeff Sessions or any American. | ||
| It is, therefore, a mystery why the president has not relieved him, probably because he's been told that it would be hard to confirm a new attorney general. | ||
| That would, by firing him, give Rod Rosenstein total control of the agency, and that would be a mistake. | ||
| The man he should discharge, the man he should terminate, the man he should can is Rod Rosenstein. | ||
| Yeah, I think that Rosenstein's continued employment is more egregious than Sessions. | ||
| And just to make sure we have all the angles covered, all the angles Roger just mentioned, I'll just throw the one more in there, which is... | ||
| And we hope this is the case, that Sessions is sitting on indictments, sitting on these cases, sitting on justice, just waiting for the right time to strike. | ||
| I'm not saying I have any intel that says that's true or not. | ||
| I'm just throwing out all the options to just add that into everything that Roger covered when he was speaking. | ||
| So I don't know what the deal with Sessions is. | ||
| I think that... All theories and everything that we discuss in this segment are pretty much all on the table. | ||
| And only time will tell. | ||
| So, we go to break, but when we come back, we're going to do one more segment with Roger Stone and your phone calls. | ||
| We've got MAGA Titan, Matthew, and Blaine coming up. | ||
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| All right, last segment with Roger Stone. | ||
| We're going to take your phone calls. | ||
| Oh, did we lose MAGA Titan? | ||
| That's too bad. MAGA Titan was calling in. | ||
| He said he had a poem that he had written for us. | ||
| Is that MAGA Titan calling back in, guys? | ||
| If so, I wanted to go to him first so he could recite his poem. | ||
| By the way, if you are looking for Roger Stone's latest book, Stone's Rules, which we have a lot of people calling in, giving him a shout-out, Four, you can go to InfoWarsStore.com and get your copy of Stone's Rules today. | ||
| Alright, we do have MAGA Titan. | ||
| He has a poem. | ||
| He's called in before and recited his poems. | ||
| They've been very powerful. So let's go to MAGA Titan now with the latest MAGA Titan poem. | ||
| Well, it's a magalicious poetic rant, but okay. | ||
| I'm just playing. When you call all whites and Trump supporters racist and also cheer for all black graduations at Harvard to fail to see you're the racist, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| When you say President Trump hates people of color and then turn around and say you hate his orange skin, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| When you tell people not to say words like people he or she because it might offend someone or something, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| When you think masculinity is toxic and men are not needed in society, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| When you claim Republicans and Trump supporters are heartless towards children, but you're okay with Peter Fonda saying Barron Trump should be locked in a cage with pedophiles, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you claim Trump supporters are heartless towards children and claim it's okay to take a 16-year-old's MAGA hat because he is a Nazi, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you didn't know, George Soros is an admitted Nazi collaborator and has had his hands in funding extreme violent New World Order Globalist controlled social justice groups to cause chaos and anarchy and civil unrest in the streets, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you claim for two weeks that President Trump was putting kids in cages and separating families and blamed for a law pastor in Clinton's administration, pictures from 2014 and a fake news CNN Time Magazine cover, and are still upset after he signed an executive order to keep them together, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you claim Trump supporters are heartless towards children that are separated through illegal immigration, then turn around the next day and say you're worried about President Trump's next SCOTUS pick because you won't be able to kill your American baby, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you don't understand there are legal ports of entry that the parents can bring their kids through and avoid being separated, then you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you're okay with funding Hitler's friend and KKK Women's member Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood, And their eugenics plans for the black population, in which she called human weeds, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you clap when someone says, God bless abortion, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you're okay with Bill Clinton speaking at KKK member Robert Byrd's funeral and saying he was just a good old boy from the South, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you like the picture of Hillary Clinton kissing Robert Byrd on the cheek, We're good to go. | ||
| Or tyranny and complete obliteration of your constitutional rights and bring in a nightmarish, 1,000 times worse system, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you claim or label someone a Nazi wearing a MAGA hat and then go to their free speech, peaceful events and try to silence them with violence, you might be a fake liberal or Nazi. | ||
| When you want to abolish borders and abolish ICE, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| When you protest ICE outside of an underage sex prostitution ring bus, You might be a fake liberal. | ||
| When you're okay with killing random cops, okay with yelling pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon, and you support calls for white genocide, you might be a huge BLM supporter and a fake liberal. | ||
| When you think it's okay to blame all of America for its imperfections, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| When you support socialism, democratic socialism, or communism, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you think there's a difference between democratic socialism and socialism, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you sit around with a pink You know what, Hat, and a Che Guevara shirt at Starbucks saying America is going to crap and you're resisting, you might be a fake liberal if you're okay with Operation Fast and Furious arming Al-Qaeda and selling 20% of our uranium to Russia. | ||
| You might be a fake liberal. If you're okay with arming MS-13 and other terrorist groups, and okay with disarming the American people, then you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you're not okay with President Trump calling MS-13 animals, but okay with Nancy Pelosi saying MS-13 has a spark of divinity, you might be a fake liberal if you say President Trump's new Supreme Court nominee is racist before the nominee is even announced, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you're okay with the Hillary Clinton paper or Russian dossier, wrote high levels of the FBI working together in their secret society, plans to frame President Trump, you might be a fake liberal. | ||
| If you're okay with- All right, all right, all right. | ||
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Hold up, hold up, hold up. | |
| This is the fake liberal poem written by MAGA Titan. | ||
| Tweet the full poem if you have it in document form or any way we can share it. | ||
| Tweet it at War Room Show. | ||
| But we've already given you four minutes. | ||
| It's powerful stuff, great stuff. | ||
| The fake liberal poem, but I've got to take a couple other calls. | ||
| MAGA Titan, thank you for calling in. | ||
| Like I said, just tweet that at us if you have it in document form or something, and then we will retweet it out. | ||
| But I've got to jump over to Matthew in Missouri now. | ||
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Go ahead, Matthew. Hey, still there? | |
| Oh, yeah. Okay, all right. | ||
| I watch your show every day, I watch Alex's show every day, and I watch Roger's. | ||
| I'm going to let you know, Roger and Alex, I pray for you guys every day, and I'm glad that they finally dropped another case on you. | ||
| I mean, dropped a case off of you. | ||
| Thank you. Just let him know that. | ||
| I pray with you. The devil's always going to be at you. | ||
| You know you're doing the right thing when the devil's at you as full force. | ||
| There's no question. Look, brother, we were only able to win that case and get a dismissal because of the loyal support of so many info warriors at the stonedefensefund.com. | ||
| It cost us almost a quarter of a million dollars to fight this outrageous left-wing conspiracy theory filed against us by an Obama-blessed group. | ||
| Where they maintained the fairy tale that I worked with the Russians to hack the DNC and gave the data, the emails, alleged emails, to Donald Trump or WikiLeaks or Julian Assange or whoever. | ||
| It's fiction. And yes, we were dismissed on a jurisdictional basis, but it's because they could not tie me in any way to a conspiracy they claimed happened in D.C. So there you have it. | ||
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Thank you. Continue. I think we're going to hit an explosion point. | |
| Well, the left is... | ||
| I think you're absolutely right. | ||
| The left doesn't want to live under the Constitution and the law in a fair society. | ||
| And they will not respect the outcome of a democratically run election. | ||
| So we're heading for a cataclysmic event, perhaps a civil war, over the fact that they won't accept the results of the election. | ||
| I was not happy when Barack Obama got elected. | ||
| I was not unhappy when he got re-elected. | ||
| But I accepted the results of the election. | ||
| They refused to do that. | ||
| And that will be the triggering event. | ||
| Well, and I think the extra angle there, Matthew, is... | ||
| And this is why it's... | ||
| What's going on behind the scenes with the deep state is so key. | ||
| Just like if they killed Trump or took Trump down for some bogus Russian collusion claim... | ||
| I mean, what would you do? | ||
| What would the average Trump supporter do? | ||
| Would that be, you know, is that what would pop us off? | ||
| Is that what would cause us to go to the next level? | ||
| On the flip side of that, you say, let's say President Trump or... | ||
| Jeff Sessions or someone actually decides to put Hillary in jail for all of her crimes and then the rest of the Clinton cabal ends up behind bars and facing justice. | ||
| Is that what pops them off? | ||
| Is that what sends the left into going to full violence? | ||
| So I think that that, I don't know if that's kind of what you were leaning at, Matthew, but I would say if there's any potential mapping or blueprint of what would cause that, I'd say that that's probably it. | ||
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Conservatives are kind of fighting back in Seattle, and usually, you know, we're Christian. | |
| We, you know, turn the other cheek, but we're not ever defending ourselves, and I think the Conservatives, you know, they were worried under Obama that he was pushing in martial law, and we all knew that was coming, you know, militarizing the police and everything else. | ||
| But when he got out and Trump got in, you know, the Conservatives relaxed their guard, and that was the worst thing they could have done. | ||
| He's just the first step. | ||
| So, you know, I'm not real proud that he elected Kavanaugh. | ||
| I looked into it. I mean, the only thing I could see is that he seems to be voting constitutional for the past 10 years. | ||
| But, like you said, you know, he's friends with Bushes and, you know, got some deep state friends. | ||
| And I hope it turns out that way. | ||
| I prayed for Trump to have godly wisdom when he picked him. | ||
| I really did. Well, we'll have to see what happens whenever Kavanaugh starts voting. | ||
| That is, of course, if he gets confirmed, which I think we all expect. | ||
| All right, Roger, thank you for joining us today. | ||
| We'll speak with you again tomorrow. | ||
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| I forgot to mention something earlier about this story inside Mueller's new army from the Daily Beast, Betsy Woodruff. | ||
| Part of one of the new army members of Mueller's new army, quoting from the Daily Beast, they say that the specialty, the reason why they're being brought on is to bring in the Russians. | ||
| Scroll down and find this, guys. | ||
| It says they need to bring in the Russians because they don't expect Russia to expedite their own people. | ||
| It's down at the bottom, I think. | ||
| Just search, like, Russia or something like that. | ||
| And it's just so funny to me. | ||
| It's like... Betsy, the Russians already showed up to court. | ||
| They had legal representation there. | ||
| They demanded discovery. | ||
| Mueller's the one that didn't show up. | ||
| It's like unbelievable. | ||
| That's not it, guys. | ||
| It's fine. I'm sorry. | ||
| For some reason, the printer prints out the wrong story. | ||
| There it is right there. | ||
| Here it is. I'm quoting from the story. | ||
| It's unlikely any of the 13 Russian nationals indicted in that case will be extradited to the United States and legal proceedings could drag on for years. | ||
| So they're saying they have to appoint this new person to Mueller's army. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. The Russians already had their legal representation show up in court. | ||
| They demanded discovery. | ||
| And they sit here and they say, we have to get these new members on Mueller's team because the Russians aren't going to show up in court and he needs them there. | ||
| They already showed up in court. | ||
| They demanded discovery. | ||
| Mueller is the one that didn't show up. | ||
| But for some reason, Betsy Woodruff of the Daily Beast doesn't want to report on that. | ||
| I don't know if she doesn't know it. | ||
| I don't know if she just refuses to tell you the truth. | ||
| It's infuriating, man. | ||
| It's infuriating to me. | ||
| Let's go back to the phone lines. | ||
| Let's go to Blaine in Indiana. | ||
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Go ahead, Blaine. Hey, you know, I was a little bit cut off the other day. | |
| I'm not disgruntled or anything, but I was with Lionel and Rob Duke, and I was philosophically disagreeing with what they were talking about because I think what's important to note is with Kavanaugh, Although, with the case I was going to talk about, | ||
| Heller v. D.C., and that I agree with the ruling that the case had to deal with registration of semi-automatic rifles as opposed to semi-automatic pistols, finding that it was unconstitutional, he was basing the ruling on his case with what was traditional, | ||
| when I don't think that's entirely fair, because he was only looking at the last century, but when you look at prior The prior history, I mean, you had our Militia Acts, which had to do with the National Guard and the federal regulation of it and how troops are being paid and organized and all this thing, talking about the fact that there's an organized and an unorganized militia, and people don't know this. | ||
| There is an organized militia, which is the state militia, the National Guard, and there's the unorganized militia, you and me. | ||
| And I think what people are missing is that, yes, it was a conservative ruling. | ||
| However, It was not referring to, you know, the security of the state. | ||
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| All right, Blaine. Well, I apologize. | ||
| I'm not trying to cut you off again. | ||
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| We've got to go to break here. So I'm not sure if you finished your final point, but thank you for calling in. | ||
| On the other side, Craig Sawyer is going to join me, and we're going to talk about his experience going over to Thailand and helping with the rescue of the soccer team and the coach. | ||
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| it is it is truly heroic and inspiring what happened over in Thailand, where 12 young boys were trapped in a cave with their soccer coach. - | ||
| And men and women came to their rescue, put their lives on the line, won. | ||
| Former Thailand Navy SEAL Saman Gunan even gave his life ensuring that the air tanks were in proper place so that the children could be saved. | ||
| And we are glad to report that as of yesterday all 12 boys have been rescued and the soccer coach. | ||
| We're now joined by Craig Sawyer who was part of this effort who got called in for his expertise When he was a Navy SEAL, Craig, you actually didn't have to go into the caves yourself, but you were there on the ground doing some thinking, trying to figure out what to do. | ||
| Just talk about the experience over there, what it was like working with the people, and the moment when the final kid and the coach came out of the cave. | ||
| Well, I kind of showed up as an afterthought. | ||
| We were over there in Chiang Rai, just coming back from Cambodia when that happened. | ||
| And so we heard about it in passing, and we had done our three weeks of joint operations with law enforcement and three other NGOs all over Southeast Asia. | ||
| We were on our way home. When I got a message saying, hey, Craig, those kids are still in that cave. | ||
| They're still not out of there, and it looks like you may be able to help. | ||
| So I reached out to the U.S. Navy SEAL community in a private forum that we've got and just queried all of the solutions that our guys have. | ||
| We've got some guys like John Carl wrote who are... | ||
| Famous hardhat and deep divers, civilian divers, after their time in the SEAL teams and made big names for themselves. | ||
| A lot of solutions, a lot of development of different equipment. | ||
| So I was just asking those guys, hey, let's put our heads together and let me bring all of our best solutions and make sure there's nothing that they are without over there, just in case it can be of help. | ||
| So I canceled my flight home. | ||
| I was just about to get on a flight to get back to my family after about a month. | ||
| Out of Bangkok, and I canceled that flight and flew back down to Chiang Rai. | ||
| There was a lot of barricades with military and law enforcement to keep everybody out. | ||
| There's a giant pool of thousands of press and support and everything else there. | ||
| So we were able to get through all of that with our credentials, get all the way up to meet with the liaison, U.S. military liaison that were already there. | ||
| And the guy explained to me, he goes, What's your level of proficiency with caves? | ||
| I told them. I said, well, look, I'm not looking to be the guy that solves this whole thing. | ||
| I'm just here to help and humble in whatever capacity I can. | ||
| And I just got done helping some of your guys haul ice. | ||
| And we're shipping water in from our organization to help your workers. | ||
| And I brought a lot of information from the U.S. SEAL community. | ||
| So I exchanged those techniques to them to make sure that they knew about all the things that we'd come up with. | ||
| And ensured that they were armed with that. | ||
| So we talked about technique and opportunities and options for that. | ||
| And he let me know, Craig, you can't fit in there. | ||
| And I was talking to some of the military and police right there at the cave site, and they're showing me. | ||
| They're like, look, I can barely fit in there. | ||
| And one of the guys is about half my size. | ||
| And he pointed to me and he said, you're not going to be able to fit in there, even without tanks. | ||
| So I thought, okay, well, there's nothing... | ||
| I could do inside the cave, but I just offered to support them however I could, and so really that was it for us. | ||
| We were there for moral support and sharing information, and we shipped some water in for the guys, but they told me, Craig, really at this point, as far as the physical rescue, these guys, there's the Thai Navy SEALs, but also there's the best divers in the world that's a civilian Cave diving crew. | ||
| And he said, Craig, they've got these systems with multiple systems of redundancy, and it's uniquely designed for cave diving, and they are the best in the world. | ||
| They do this full time. | ||
| They do more cave diving rescues than anybody on Earth, and they've got this. | ||
| And so I'm satisfied that they knew all the techniques that we did and had all the same solutions and all that had been settled. | ||
| I felt like, okay, I felt satisfied that I offered and presented everything that I could. | ||
| And after a point, we just went ahead and withdrew and came on home. | ||
| So as not to be part of the mess, because it was a big zoo. | ||
| There wasn't enough space. | ||
| It was muddy. Everybody was kind of in the way. | ||
| And so the actual physical rescue was on hold, waiting a certain factor that I was asked to hold confidential, and I'll do that in good faith. | ||
| But it did happen en route. | ||
| We were flying home to the U.S. when the actual physical rescue operation began. | ||
| So I'll tell you this. | ||
| Those divers are heroes in every sense of the word. | ||
| It was a seemingly impossible task. | ||
| What they had to do to get all the way in there and get those boys calm and get them suited up and get them all the way back out is something you only see once in a lifetime. | ||
| An entire series of miracles. | ||
| Everybody involved in that deserves all the praise and kudos they can get. | ||
| It's the real deal. Real stuff. | ||
| Yeah, and again, and let's not forget the former TIE SEAL, Saman Gunan, who literally put his life on the line and died just to make sure that the boys had those air tanks where they needed to be for the rescue. | ||
| What can you tell us now? | ||
| Oh, and real quick, though, before you move on, they said they used every single one of those tanks. | ||
| Had he not done that, that operation would not have been a success. | ||
| His sacrifice was needed. | ||
| It counted for something. | ||
| I want people to know that. | ||
| Yeah, right. And he had a family, too. | ||
| Yeah, man. And so pray for his family now as he sacrificed himself for the greater good. | ||
| That's what every human wishes that is our makeup. | ||
| That's what every human wishes that their element is. | ||
| We all believe that. Well, Saman Gunan put it all on the line, and he delivered for humanity. | ||
| Right. What can you tell us, Craig? | ||
| We've got about two and a half minutes left in this segment. | ||
| What can you tell us about the physical conditions of that cave and just how tough it was to maneuver in there? | ||
| Well, the walls are jagged. | ||
| There's apparently currents, strong currents in parts of it. | ||
| There's steep angles up and down. | ||
| And then there's these very tight sections to get through with very confined spaces. | ||
| They were showing me on their arm, which looked to me like about 15 inches, maybe 15 inches. | ||
| So they're pointing at me. | ||
| I'm six foot 230. | ||
| They said, there's no way I could fit through. | ||
| So that's how tight it was. | ||
| So the guys would have to physically pull their tanks off, push them ahead of themselves, and then squish their body through to get through some of those tight spots. | ||
| Wow, wow. So did they have to abandon? | ||
| I'm sorry to interrupt. This is intriguing to me. | ||
| Did they have to abandon their air mask and everything to get through and then reapply? | ||
| Not necessarily compromise the seal or their mask or their regulator system, but they would have had to pull their tanks off of their body, as I understand it, and push them through that void first, and then slide their body through, force their body through after it, and then put the tanks back on. | ||
| So just unthinkable circumstance in the dark with zero viz in the water and all the other factors. | ||
| Man, it's just really inspiring. | ||
| It's a bright, shining moment in humanity. | ||
| It really is. I mean, how are they able to maneuver? | ||
| I mean, a miracle, you could say, and it is a miracle, but how are they able to maneuver in such a difficult, you know, cave makeup with zero visibility? | ||
| How were they able to do that? | ||
| Well, they brought lights, and so they would illuminate best they could. | ||
| But underwater, a lot of times you kind of go by feel, and you've got your instruments. | ||
| But, I mean, you can see the lights on the guys as they're going through. | ||
| So, look, they made it happen, man. | ||
| It was a situation that most people felt was impossible. | ||
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| Craig Sawyer certainly knows what it means to put your life on the line for the greater good and for others. | ||
| And that's why he joins me today to talk about the Thailand Cave Rescue, where 12 boys and their soccer coach were stuck in a cave. | ||
| All were rescued in a mission that seemed impossible. | ||
| Craig, I want to get your take as you were there on the ground and you absorbed some of the scenery there. | ||
| I'm sure you were speaking with a lot of people involved in this at the time. | ||
| Just talk about the will of the Thai Navy SEALs, the will of these deep-sea diver rescuers, and the defiance to say, no, it's not impossible, we will get it done. | ||
| What was that like witnessing it and knowing what that's like being with other men that have that same mentality? | ||
| Talk about the defiance of it being deemed impossible to rescue these kids. | ||
| Yeah, man. Well, the Thai SEALs have a good rep for that, and some things are universal. | ||
| I've cross-trained with numerous Special Forces units around the world, and what they say is essentially the same. | ||
| They say it in a different accent, and they have different equipment, but really, it's the same guys, and they look a little bit differently. | ||
| They sound a little bit different, but they're really expressing the same thing. | ||
| So, the Thai SEALs are great guys, and I've cross-trained with their counter-terrorist unit back in the late 90s. | ||
| And similar guys there as well. | ||
| But look, at the dive site, it was a beehive of activity. | ||
| There was just a lot of equipment coming in. | ||
| There was a lot of planning, a lot of stress, and just agonizing over what they were going to do. | ||
| Nobody wanted to execute this plan until they really had to because everybody was looking for A better solution, because this was a really risky plan, but it was the best one under the circumstances. | ||
| So there was a great effort looking for something safer, looking for something more effective. | ||
| You know, they were looking at drilling. | ||
| Can you drill? Well, no, there's like an 800 meter mountain, a jungle mountain, directly above the cave site itself. | ||
| So getting equipment up there and drilling down To it or across to it wasn't really an option with the amount of time. | ||
| It was really rainy and muddy. | ||
| It just made everything much more difficult. | ||
| So space was limited. | ||
| There were dozens and dozens of big generator trucks there. | ||
| There were, like I said, just tent after tent after tent with thousands of press there, just flooded international press pool. | ||
| So there's a lot of stress, a lot of praying. | ||
| There are people there doing vigils, monks. | ||
| And it was really kind of beautiful in that sense, people just hoping and praying and wanting those boys out of there. | ||
| So, man, the rescue divers and Thai SEALs were all on board just wanting to be part of the solution and make sure that those boys got out of there one way or another. | ||
| The question was, how was it going to happen? | ||
| And was the right decision going to be made to get them out of there without getting any of them killed? | ||
| How many could get... | ||
| Brought out of there before the floodwaters came in and ended the equation for everybody. | ||
| You're talking about hours to get all the way in there and then hours to get all the way back out. | ||
| It's not like you just run in and grab one and run back out. | ||
| It's a miracle journey to get all the way in there. | ||
| And then the same thing to get all the way back out. | ||
| When I heard they got all 12, I was like, that's amazing. | ||
| That is an absolute miracle. | ||
| This is a day to be celebrated. | ||
| Globally. Truly. Honestly, just getting two or four out would have been a miracle because they didn't think they could get any of them out. | ||
| And we've already talked about the makeup of the cave with the jagged edges. | ||
| It's dark in the water, almost zero visibility, tight squeezes, and that type of stuff. | ||
| But Talk about kind of the layout of the cave when it comes to the lengthiness of how far they had to dive just to get to reach the boys and then to get back. | ||
| I mean, I was under the impression you're talking about a couple of maybe a mile or so or more nautical miles and the odds of just being able to maneuver. | ||
| I mean, how are they maneuvering all this great distance with almost no visibility? | ||
| I mean, they obviously don't have a map in front of them. | ||
| Talk about how they defied those odds. | ||
| Well, we use a compass to do that generally, but in a cave, you run a line, a cable or a rope or a series of ropes so that you don't lose your way because it's easy to get disoriented with cloudy water And poor visibility and poor lighting. | ||
| You turn on a light in cloudy water and it just looks like a big glow in front of your face. | ||
| You still can't really see anything. | ||
| So a lot of times the light doesn't necessarily help. | ||
| So they're following that line by faith, by feel, a lot of times. | ||
| So it's, man, it's the worst of the worst. | ||
| This is by far, in a way, the most complex, the most challenging, the most dangerous rescue dive I know about. | ||
| And I think it's far and away the most risky cave dive that's ever been executed. | ||
| So history has been made here in more ways than one. | ||
| Just a truly an amazing series of miracles, in my opinion, that allowed this to happen. | ||
| When I heard they got them all out, all 12 boys and the coach, I just shook my head and said a prayer. | ||
| And you know, you consider how difficult this is for even a Navy SEAL, even the Thai Navy SEALs to be able to swim through that and trek through that. | ||
| It's an extremely amazing mission for them. | ||
| But then to actually get the boys to go through there too, unexperienced swimmers, unexperienced with deep sea diving. | ||
| I mean, they had a lot of work to do just on their end to make this possible. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know how much of this I should relay, but I think some of it's already come out now. | ||
| There was consideration on sedating the boys because, look, panic is death under there in those situations. | ||
| Young man, you put him underwater with a regulator and a mask for the first time. | ||
| If he's not comfortable and he starts getting scared, he can panic and start ripping everybody's mask and kicking and really cause a lot of damage and cause multiple people to lose their lives. | ||
| It was considered to sedate the boys so we all felt like that was probably the most prudent measure and even restraining their hands so they couldn't Reach up and start ripping masks and panicking and causing damage. | ||
| Because really, those divers, there was going to be one in front of the boy and one in back with kind of like a flexible backboard so that they can control the boy and move him out. | ||
| One in front, one in back. | ||
| And so the boy was controlled. | ||
| So the boy wouldn't need to do anything. | ||
| A small child, a young boy like that, is not really going to solve any problems. | ||
| Underwater in adverse conditions like that in an unfamiliar environment. | ||
| Those divers are going to really solve all the problems. | ||
| So they just needed the boys to be willing and calm passengers and they could get them out. | ||
| So that's why the consideration for sedation under those circumstances. | ||
| So a lot of us had come up with the same solutions on almost all of those issues. | ||
| And I just thank God that it worked. | ||
| Man, I still can't believe they got them all. | ||
| It's just a beautiful, beautiful occurrence. | ||
| It truly is. And again, it just shows you the power of humanity to defy the odds, to stand up, and just the will to put yourself out there for the greater good and to then become a hero. | ||
| That is truly what it's all about. | ||
| Craig Sawyer, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Thank you for sharing your account of what you witnessed there. | ||
| And as usual, we'll be in touch. | ||
| You're always offering us great, great content here on The War Room. | ||
| All right. Thank you all. So there goes Craig Sawyer. | ||
| Wow. I mean, just incredible to think about all the measures that had to be taken, all the odds that had to be defeated, the men and women that had to put it on the line for it to be possible. | ||
| Just incredible. I wonder what those 12 boys' life is going to be like from here on out. | ||
| I think they're going to be really happy to be alive and outside of that cave. | ||
| We'll be right back. Patrick, in the great nation of Australia, you're on the air worldwide. | ||
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| He is the author of The History of Jihad. | ||
| You can also find some of his work at jihadwatch.org. | ||
| And I've got some stories, actually, from Robert at jihadwatch.org that we're going to get into. | ||
| But first, Robert, I want to bring something up with you that's been seemingly... | ||
| And that is the difference when it comes to justice or law in Europe for a Muslim. | ||
| It's incredible to me what Muslim migrants are able to not necessarily get away with but essentially get away with a crime like rape or in some cases even killing someone and they don't even suffer the full extent of the law. | ||
| And I suppose the reason why that is is you have this PC culture in Europe that doesn't want to be labeled as Islamophobic. | ||
| So, oh, you know, a Muslim migrant rapes a girl who's underage. | ||
| Well, we'll just give him community service. | ||
| He didn't know any better. | ||
| He comes from a Muslim nation. | ||
| They don't know any better. Well... What is going on with this? | ||
| Robert Spencer, again, the author of History of Jihad. | ||
| I mean, am I missing something here? | ||
| But all the stories seem to indicate, and I get them daily, if you're a Muslim migrant in Europe and you rape someone, you're basically going to get away with it. | ||
| I mean, you may receive a little jail time, you may get some community service, but it's like a slap on the wrist. | ||
| Yeah. Owen, you couldn't be more right. | ||
| There's so many incidents of this. | ||
| It's absolutely astonishing. | ||
| And what it speaks to is the fact that the European authorities are committed, deeply committed. | ||
| They're all in for this mass Muslim migration project. | ||
| It seems as if they're intent on destroying the nation state, the very concept of the nation state, the concept of ethnicity, and so they are bringing in these huge numbers of Muslim migrants with a radically different view of how women are to be treated, with a radically different view especially of how non-Muslim women who have not got their heads covered are to be treated. | ||
| So the rapes and other crimes, sexual assaults, related crimes have skyrocketed, and the response from authorities is to gag the media and make it more difficult for the media to report on these crimes because in many cases Sweden and other countries, they've actually passed laws that forbid the name and the religion and the ethnicity of the perpetrator from being released. | ||
| ethnicity of the perpetrator from being released. | ||
| The whole idea, obviously, is to keep people ignorant and complacent about the migrant project and about what a disaster it has brought upon Europe. | ||
| Well, what's going on in Sweden right now is honestly like, it's like you can't even believe it. | ||
| And then you kind of have Germany and the UK right there with it. | ||
| Not as bad as Sweden. | ||
| Sweden is, it's honestly unbelievable. | ||
| And then, you know, France and Italy kind of have their own problems, maybe not as bad. | ||
| But that's what I'm saying. | ||
| See, I'm not trying to come on here and make some religious issue or even sit here. | ||
| I don't live in Europe, so I'm not going to sit here and act like I can determine what Europe wants to do with its borders or migration policy. | ||
| They can figure that out. But what does it tell you? | ||
| I think that's the story. It's not just about... | ||
| Bringing in migration, whether it be from a Muslim nation or whatever, it's why is it do they have a different set of standards? | ||
| Why is it that they have a different set of rules? | ||
| That, to me, is the overarching issue here. | ||
| Forget the borders, forget the migrant influx, forget whatever you want to talk about. | ||
| Why is it that they have a different set of rules? | ||
| I mean, you've been studying this. | ||
| You've seen it. I'm not just up here flapping my gums. | ||
| They genuinely, if you are a Muslim migrant, you have a different set of rules in Europe. | ||
| Well, it goes back to the same thing, that they don't want anybody to realize just how disastrous this has been. | ||
| And so they can't punish the perpetrators when they're Muslim in the same way that they publish the non-Muslims, because that will alert people to just what is going on. | ||
| And actually also the Islamic organizations in Europe are pushing for this because Islamic law mandates a special class for Muslims. | ||
| They have rights and privileges that non-Muslims don't have. | ||
| And so they call for special accommodation and special treatment in Europe. | ||
| They cry Islamophobia, racism, and hatred if they don't get it. | ||
| And the European authorities being leftists, very susceptible to this kind of intimidation, they fall right into line. | ||
| And to me, again, there's a big difference between saying, alright, we want to have a very lax border policy. | ||
| I don't understand it, but let's say that they feel bad for these Muslim nations, or let's just say they want more Muslims. | ||
| Let's just say they just genuinely want more Muslims in their country. | ||
| Fine, okay, that's fine. Again, though. | ||
| Why is it they're treated differently? | ||
| Why do they have a different set of laws? | ||
| And again, this is where you get to the next level, which is what you're talking about. | ||
| It's like they want to get overrun. | ||
| It's like they want to collapse their countries. | ||
| It's like they want to destroy their culture. | ||
| Whether consciously or not, that's the only breakdown that I can reasonably reach. | ||
| It's no exaggeration, Owen. | ||
| It's absolutely true. Raffaele Nogaro is a bishop in Italy. | ||
| And the other day he was quoted in Il Giornale, an Italian paper, saying... | ||
| I will turn all the churches into mosques to accommodate these people, to aid the cause of Muslim migration. | ||
| So this is no joke. | ||
| He wasn't rebuked. He wasn't silenced. | ||
| He wasn't contradicted by the Pope or by Italian bishops, by anybody else. | ||
| This is actually what they are trying to do. | ||
| They think that the actual Islamization of Europe Whether it's out of some fond idea of diversity or multiculturalism or faulty historical notions that I confront in the history of jihad about how Muslim Spain was a tolerant, peaceful place, | ||
| which isn't true. Whether it's some of these politically correct fantasies or some sort of a strange suicidal death wish, civilizational death wish, nonetheless, they really are saying straight out right now that, yes, they want to be overrun, conquered, and Islamized. | ||
| And this is, again, this is not my battle. | ||
| I don't live in Europe, so I'm not fighting this battle because it's my battle. | ||
| I use it as an example to say I don't want it to happen here. | ||
| But just as a show host, as a reporter, I'm just reporting it how it is. | ||
| It doesn't make sense to me unless you want to collapse your nation. | ||
| And by the way, you know, I'm sorry, am I missing it? | ||
| I don't see the Muslim nations saying that they'll bring in as many Jews as possible. | ||
| I don't see any Muslim nations saying they're going to bring in as many Christians as possible. | ||
| So, again, is it a double standard? | ||
| I mean, none of it makes sense unless these people have a cultural, societal death wish. | ||
| That's it. We'll be right back with more and Robert Spencer. | ||
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| Robert Spencer is my guest here on The War Room. | ||
| He is the author of The History of Jihad. | ||
| You can find a lot of his great work at jihadwatch.org, which is where I pull my next story from. | ||
| From Robert Spencer at jihadwatch.org headline, If they give me the atom bomb, I'd remove Holland from the earth before they can hold a competition of caricatures. | ||
| This comes from... | ||
| A rising politician, a Muslim politician in Pakistan. | ||
| So are they just now openly saying they want to bomb European countries? | ||
| I mean, am I reading this right? | ||
| This seems like some pretty harsh rhetoric here. | ||
| Well, you're absolutely right, Owen. | ||
| And it is... | ||
| Something that we really saw before, you remember about 10 or 12 years ago, there were cartoons, the first cartoons of Muhammad were published in a Danish newspaper, Jillens Poston, and then there were riots and innocent people killed by Muslims in various parts of the world. | ||
| Then Charlie Hebdo, the satirical magazine in Paris, published cartoons of Muhammad and 13 of their cartoonists were brutally murdered in an Islamic jihad attack in the beginning of 2015. | ||
| And then Pamela Geller and I put on a Muhammad art exhibit and cartoon contest in Garland, Texas, as a response to this violent intimidation, saying we were not going to be frightened into or intimidated into silence in Garland, Texas, in May 2015. | ||
| And that was the first ISIS attack on American soil, when two jihadis traveled from Phoenix to the Dallas suburbs to attack our event, and then they were killed by our security team outside the event. | ||
| The Islamic jihadis around the world have made it clear that they're not going to tolerate what they consider to be Islamic blasphemy, the insult to Muhammad. | ||
| And so the free world really has the choice now or the decision it has to make, whether it's going to uphold the freedom of speech or whether it's going to submit to this violent intimidation and allow itself to have these Sharia blasphemy laws imposed upon it. | ||
| And that's what really the statement by this Pakistani politician, Kadeem Hussain Rizvi, really means. | ||
| He's saying that if Keir Wilders, the Dutch politician, goes through with his plans to hold another Mohammed cartoon event in The Hague in the near future, then he wishes that he would be in a position to bomb it with a nuclear bomb, Now, the funny thing about this is, or the odd thing about this is, that he's not some crank on the street corner raving. | ||
| This is a popular politician who actually one day might be in a position to use a bomb against the Netherlands, because this kind of rhetoric is extremely popular in the Islamic world, and the more we We're good to go. | ||
| Well, and to me, I mean, it's almost like you're exposing yourself, and I won't put a blanket over every Muslim on Earth, but you're exposing yourself and your culture as cretinous. | ||
| I mean, when you behave like this, this is archaic behavior. | ||
| And, you know, that, I think, is some of the issue here. | ||
| Hey, come to the 21st century, bud. | ||
| Everyone has a religious right. | ||
| Okay, you do too. But that doesn't mean you have the right to bomb somebody because they don't agree with your religion. | ||
| But, you know, it's funny that you mention this guy's rhetoric in this story, which obviously extreme, threatening to bomb Holland. | ||
| With all the people that complain about Trump's rhetoric on the news almost seemingly 24-7, not even a mention of this man. | ||
| Yeah, it's definitely a double standard. | ||
| People take it for granted that even people who will turn around and insist that Islam is a religion of peace and that only Islamophobes say otherwise, they will turn around and give a guy like Qadim Hussein Rizvi a free pass and ignore his violent incitement. | ||
| And this happens all the time. | ||
| There were several imams in the United States And several in Canada recently who actually prayed and it was caught on video calling for Allah to kill all the Jews. | ||
| And the Toronto Star actually wrote a lengthy piece exonerating this imam instead of criticizing him and making excuses for him. | ||
| And this is the kind of double standard that you get from these people who are supposedly against ethnocentrism and racism. | ||
| They have this unconscious paternalism where they think that, well, Muslims are just going to be threatening and violent, and we have to let that happen because if we don't, then we'll be racist. | ||
| Well, and again, this to me, I go back to it's just like cretinous caveman behavior. | ||
| They don't even understand it, or maybe they do. | ||
| I don't know. I just look at this as, again, like very archaic thinking, where they don't even realize the whole reason why Wilders is doing this, the whole reason why Wilders plans this thing is to show who you are. | ||
| Like, that's the whole point, you know? | ||
| Like, the reason they do this is to show who you really are, and then, again, I would view it as cretinous thinking, this guy doesn't even get it, and so he goes to the next level, says, we'll bomb you, and then Wilder says, thank you, you just proved my point. | ||
| If they were smart... If he was smart, he'd say, okay, you want to do some publicity stunt to try to make my religion out to be an intolerant religion of violence? | ||
| Well, how about we show up and we hold the event together? | ||
| That's how you beat that. He doesn't think that way. | ||
| He commits to being the religion of intolerance and violence and threatens to bomb Netherlands instead. | ||
| And there's nothing else he can do, Owen, because Islamic law forbids criticism of Islam and considers that what we did in Garland and what Wilders is doing now, they consider it blasphemous. | ||
| And blasphemy carries a death penalty. | ||
| So they have to make these kinds of death threats and go out and kill people and so on. | ||
| Or they think that they have to in order to be faithful to the law as it is codified in the core Islamic texts. | ||
| And so Wilders is right that, yes, this is a religion that there should be extreme concern about in the West because it does contain these elements. | ||
| And there is going to be more violence and more strife, more bloodshed, the more Muslims are in Western Europe and the United States. | ||
| Well, and there's going to have to be a reformation of Islam, and I think that maybe perhaps in some way there is, but they get called heretics and pushed to the back of the line. | ||
| But another story you have at jihadwatch.org out of the Netherlands, Muslim politician says if Dutch people don't like a changing Netherlands, they could get lost. | ||
| Now, the irony of this story to me is that They're the ones that are being intolerant. | ||
| They're the ones that want you to accept everything that comes with the religion of Islam, not to live in harmony, not to coexist, but for you to bow down to their religion. | ||
| I don't know if a false narrative is the right way to put it, but they have this... | ||
| It's like they act like they're the ones not being included, even though they are being included, and they're the ones not tolerating somebody not going along with them. | ||
| It's like this weird concoction and twisting of reality. | ||
| It really is. It's a very strange mindset. | ||
| And once you get in it, it all makes sense. | ||
| But it's very foreign to the Western mindset. | ||
| And this guy is actually showing the outcome of this mass migration. | ||
| He's saying now the Dutch should leave the Netherlands if they don't like what the Muslims are doing there. | ||
| And this is a Muslim politician. | ||
| He's the leader of a party called Denk, which is a Muslim party that is openly anti-Semitic. | ||
| And is allied with Erdogan in Turkey and calling for the Islamization of Europe. | ||
| And so this is all out in the open now. | ||
| This is not something that supposedly conspiracy theorists are saying. | ||
| And he's saying essentially, we're in charge now and we're not going to tolerate any dissent from you. | ||
| That is, from the people who've traditionally been in Holland for centuries. | ||
| And so this is something that is ultimately going to come to a head, and they're going to have to deal with it, whether the Dutch people want to surrender and become an Islamic society with a leader like that for the whole nation, or whether they're going to stand up for Dutch principles and say to the Muslims, You're perfectly welcome to stay here if you assimilate and adopt Dutch principles and reject the elements of Islam and of Islamic law that are in contradiction to those principles. | ||
| But otherwise, we're going to have a problem because you're going to be in violation of Dutch law. | ||
| You know, I just... | ||
| It's so ridiculous. | ||
| I wonder how much this has to do with politicians wanting to end any nation state that is majority white people, you know, because they're flooding all the countries that they flood with these Muslims are all countries that are majority white countries, just like they're trying to do here in America. | ||
| I think that that may have an element to do with this, and I hate doing this whole racial crap. | ||
| It's such BS that we still have to deal with this, but It's because of the left. | ||
| I mean, that's what they do. | ||
| So, Robert Spencer, thank you so much. | ||
| The author of The History of Jihad, where can the audience find that book? | ||
| That should be at Amazon.com. | ||
| You can pre-order it now at Amazon or at BarnesandNoble.com. | ||
| And it will be at any self-respecting bookstore on August 7th. | ||
| So there you go. The History of Jihad available in any bookstore August 7th. | ||
| Thank you so much, Robert Spencer from JihadWatch.org for joining us today. | ||
| Thank you, Owen. Alright. | ||
| Now, we've got a short five-minute segment on the other side of this break. | ||
| Then Jake Lloyd is going to join me in studio. | ||
| Not sure what he wants to talk about, but we've got news to cover. | ||
| So that is what we'll do. | ||
| Maybe a video clip in the short five minutes here. | ||
| Don't go anywhere. This is The War Room. | ||
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| Talking over the liner here. | ||
| Just go ahead and pull it down. There's so many great video clips here. | ||
| I'm not even going to be able to get to all of them. | ||
| I mean, Trump slamming NATO. Trump standing up for America. | ||
| So refreshing. | ||
| Just more compilations of radical sheeple in the streets shouting at people. | ||
| They don't even talk anymore. | ||
| They just shout. So I'm not even going to be able to get to all those clips. | ||
| Maybe we'll try to squeeze them in. But first, President Trump must be a genius, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I can't believe nobody thought of this one. | ||
| This is incredible. Listen to President Trump's solution for the immigration problem. | ||
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Well, I have a solution. | |
| Tell people not to come to our country illegally. | ||
| That's the solution. Don't come to our country illegally. | ||
| Come like other people do. | ||
| Come legally. | ||
| This is groundbreaking stuff. | ||
| I'm saying this very simply. | ||
| We have laws. | ||
| We have borders. Don't come to our country illegally. | ||
| It's not a good thing. | ||
| And as far as ICE is concerned, the people that are fighting ICE, it's a disgrace. | ||
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| We ought to support ICE, not do what the Democrats are doing. | ||
| Democrats want open borders, and they don't mind crime. | ||
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| And remember this, without borders, you do not have a country. | ||
| Thank you, everybody. You know what's incredible? | ||
| People will disagree with that. | ||
| People would disagree with what he just said. | ||
| I just can't believe that I live in this world. | ||
| It's just hitting me again. | ||
| It's just unbelievable. | ||
| Here's an example. Let's go to clip 15. | ||
| Eric Trump helps raise $16 million for St. | ||
| Jude's Children Research and St. | ||
| Jude's gets attacked by the radical left. | ||
| Listen to the woman responding to that. | ||
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And I said thank you to Eric. | |
| I tweeted at him through my radio show. | ||
| And I didn't expect any response. | ||
| I mean, come on. It's Trump's, right? | ||
| He liked it this morning, which excited me. | ||
| It's on my radio show page, my Twitter. | ||
| This afternoon he retweeted it. | ||
| And the hate... | ||
| That has come out is unreal. | ||
| Unreal. They've not only attacked him, they've said stuff to me. | ||
| That's why I had to show you he was real, because they may even accuse me of not having a real St. | ||
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| He's raised $16 million. | ||
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| They had to out him and then try to find out if all the money was spent. | ||
| You know, that whole thing is ridiculous that they've had to separate themselves. | ||
| So there you go. That's part of the woman responding to the cyberbullying and the radical left attacking the Trumps for supporting St. | ||
| Jude's children's research. | ||
| I'm just going to sum it up like this. | ||
| Because I don't know what else to say at this point. | ||
| You have a bunch of brainwashed, mentally deranged sheeple that have been conned, they've been deceived, they've fallen for propaganda, and it's now so deep, so prevalent, that they just can't even come back down to reality. | ||
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| I mean... How else do you explain this, folks? | ||
| They protest everything. | ||
| They've got a new protest every day. | ||
| They think there's 300 genders. | ||
| They'll protest the St. | ||
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| What do you do with these people? | ||
| Oh, reopen the mental institutions. | ||
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| So, Jake Lloyd joins me in studio now, and it's same crap, different day, Jake. | ||
| And I'm just kind of, I don't know, my mind is just kind of in no man's land today. | ||
| Same crap, different day. Liberals are protesting stuff they know nothing about. | ||
| Democrats are calling for an uprising and lying to their constituency on social media and in public speeches. | ||
| Trump is just... | ||
| Backhanding and punching the globalists right in the mouth, upsetting them at NATO. And this is all going on in continuation here. | ||
| I mean, I just don't know where this ends. | ||
| I guess that's kind of where I'm at today. | ||
| It's like, when does this end? | ||
| When am I going to come into work? | ||
| When am I going to go live and not have to cover the left having fake outrage, the Democrats calling for violence, the globalists fighting back against Trump and Americans hating it? | ||
| I mean, do you see this ever coming to an end? | ||
| I mean, I know it's like, of course it will sometime. | ||
| When are these people going to stop? | ||
| Well, I don't know. And I was talking to Alex about this last night at dinner. | ||
| We were talking about when, you know, if Trump gets elected again, are they going to stop? | ||
| They'll get worse. Exactly. The whole narrative has been that Russia propped up Trump. | ||
| So you would think that they would realize that... | ||
| Hold on a second. Hold on. I have to correct you. | ||
| It's not if Trump will win. | ||
| It's when he wins. Trump will win. | ||
| But, you know, this idea that Trump rigged the election using Russia... | ||
| And then we're all watching for it now. | ||
| We're all on his ass. We're all Robert Mueller's like barreling down on him. | ||
| He's going to jail, all this different stuff. | ||
| And then he wins again. How will that affect the liberal brain, the liberal ego? | ||
| Because you would think that that would make them go, well, even if they don't admit it, that would make them go, okay, well, you can't rig an election twice, especially when the second time everybody's supposedly watching so hard, all the intelligence agencies and everything, because they're so trustworthy, like we learned in Iraq with the WMDs. | ||
| But that was what we were talking about, is just what will it take for these people to actually come around? | ||
| And we don't know. I mean, I really... | ||
| I'm of the personal opinion that it'll have to boil over in some kind of violent way. | ||
| And I don't want that. I hope that we can avoid that in some way. | ||
| But it's like, these people are so delusional. | ||
| They're so far off in the twilight zone, in la-la land, in their liberal... | ||
| Delusions that it will take something, it'll take a punch in the face, a real hard punch in the face to wake him up. | ||
| And I think the next battle... | ||
| I'd rather do a broadcast and we talk about issues that affect everyone like, what are we going to do about the 5G? What do we need to do about the internet and free speech? | ||
| These are things that if we could have a real conversation with the quote-unquote left or people that oppose with my political views, that would be uplifting. | ||
| Let's talk about the GMOs. | ||
| Let's talk about health and moving forward. | ||
| These are topics that, to me, are more uplifting, more... | ||
| You know, they bring people together. | ||
| All humans should be concerned. | ||
| No, I have to go sling mud with these people. | ||
| I have to listen to them tell me about how abortion is their biggest cause. | ||
| They want to kill babies. They have a whole salute to abortion. | ||
| And so I'm going to deal with this for like four years. | ||
| And then you know what I think is next? | ||
| I think next we're going to have to be explaining to people every day how socialism doesn't work. | ||
| That's what's going to happen next because I think they're going to go full socialist. | ||
| Well, I mean, they already kind of have in a sense. | ||
| I mean, Bernie... It shows how stupid Bernie is, and it shows that he's not a good guy. | ||
| Because the whole thing during the election was, oh, I don't like Bernie, but at least he's honest. | ||
| He's not like Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders doesn't even know what he believes. | ||
| He calls himself a democratic socialist. | ||
| At most, he's really a social democrat. | ||
| And I know that that sounds like there's not much of a distinction, but there is. | ||
| And Then you have people like Ocasio-Cortez who are really going to split the Democratic Party. | ||
| I think we're seeing a fracturing of the Democratic Party because you can't have these two conflicting ideologies dwelling under the same tent. | ||
| You have people like Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| Maxine Waters, even though she's radical and she wants to hurt Trump supporters, even though that's true, she's still very much the status quo. | ||
| She's the old guard type of Democrat. | ||
| Not the old, old guard like back in the day when they were just very white-collar or blue-collar working class. | ||
| Oh, not the KKK days? | ||
| Right, not in those days. You mean like the 70s? | ||
| The 70s. The 70s. | ||
| The 70s Democrats, not all the way back like when they were supporting lynching black people because they don't belong in America. | ||
| Not those Democrats. | ||
| They've come a long way. They've come a little bit. | ||
| Have they? A little bit. | ||
| So anyways, I think that we're going to see people like Ocasio-Cortez pulling people to the left, alienating swing voters. | ||
| Oh, they will kill them. Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Socialism will kill the Democrat Party. | ||
| Hillary hasn't already. And we're going to have people like Hillary. | ||
| We're going to have people like Cortez who are going to totally split the Democratic Party. | ||
| And you're going to have all of these different issues like the social justice worries. | ||
| You're going to have all of them going, well, if they get to go their own way, then we want to go ours. | ||
| And you're going to have a million little parties like the Green Party, the Libertarians, all of that different stuff. | ||
| And I think this is a prime position for the beginning of a new left-wing party. | ||
| Well, I think you're right. However, I don't think they'll have the support that they think they will have. | ||
| I have family members in the Midwest that typically vote Democrat. | ||
| I don't know if they would identify as a Democrat, but typically vote Democrat. | ||
| However, hardcore capitalists, okay, love capitalism, right? | ||
| I mean, there's still a lot of Democrats that love capitalism. | ||
| And so if you go full socialist, you're going to lose those Democrats. | ||
| And that's why I feel like, here's my formula right now that I think the Democrats are kind of going with. | ||
| They know nobody can beat Trump in 2020. | ||
| They don't have anybody, and I don't even think there's anybody that could beat Trump in 2020. | ||
| So they're looking at this, if it really will be Hillary, Throwing in the towel. | ||
| All right, Hillary, go ahead and launder some more money. | ||
| You know, do your whole thing. Cause racial division, everything. | ||
| Class warfare. And that's what Ocasio-Cortez is really good at now, causing class warfare. | ||
| And so they'll throw away the 2020 election just to kind of create that pivot point of becoming the socialist wing of America. | ||
| But here's the other angle that I think is important to this formula. | ||
| Look at all of the press, look at all the attention, and look at how Ocasio-Cortez is already the darling, the baby of the Democrat Party. | ||
| What office has she ever held? | ||
| Well, and that's the really interesting thing. | ||
| Like you said, she's the darling of the Democratic Party now. | ||
| Hasn't even won office. | ||
| Never held an office. Never been in office. | ||
| A bartender. The most amazing thing, because they're like, this is the future of the Democratic Party. | ||
| She unseated, or she's unseating this Democratic congressman in the primary. | ||
| Imagine now, imagine if a Republican wins. | ||
| Now, I don't think that that's particularly likely, but imagine if a Republican wins against Ocasio-Cortez. | ||
| That's going to totally upend every notion of her being the new face of the Democratic Party because it's clearly a losing strategy. | ||
| And they have this idea that in 2020, they're going to have... | ||
| The moment that the Republican Party had in 2016. | ||
| We had like 19 candidates up there, all debating. | ||
| But the fact is, no matter how many candidates they have up there, they're not going to be able to tap into the angst that the Republicans and President Trump were able to. | ||
| Because the disenfranchised voters were... | ||
| White middle-aged voters, working class voters, people in middle America, rural voters, people that the elites like to call uneducated people who just went to trade school or didn't go to college, whatever. | ||
| It's like that has already been captured by President Trump. | ||
| The only people you could call disenfranchised right now are... | ||
| I think they believe... | ||
| Because in 2020 or 2024, the biggest group of voters will be millennials. | ||
| I think they believe that they have enough millennials brainwashed into loving socialism and the next upcoming generations with what they teach in school that they think they can win an election with socialism. | ||
| I don't think that will work, but I think that that's their formula. | ||
| That's why they're going with Ocasio-Cortez, even though she's never won office yet. | ||
| That's why they're just going all in on her, and I think probably rigging the elections to make sure she gets in. | ||
| Again, I'm I'm the one saying that. | ||
| I don't trust the electronic voting machines. | ||
| But just as kind of a side as we go to a break here, Bernie Sanders. | ||
| Alex Jones confronts Bernie Sanders at the airport. | ||
| And what does Bernie Sanders do? | ||
| He says, who are you? I don't know who you are. | ||
| So think about it like this. Either Bernie Sanders is just a total liar and he's going to act like he doesn't know who Alex Jones is, or he's really that lazy and out of touch. | ||
| I mean, seriously, like, you don't know who Alex Jones is, Bernie Sanders. | ||
| Give me a break. Hillary Clinton mentions him during his speech. | ||
| Bernie Sanders, if he doesn't know who Alex Jones is, he's just a lazy bum who doesn't do any research into anything. | ||
| Exactly. And I mean, the fact is that Bernie Sanders, as much as they want to, you know, whine and cry about, oh, how he, you know, he didn't, he hadn't been in politics forever. | ||
| He actually lived up to his record or his voting record was solid or whatever. | ||
| The man has been in politics for like 40 years. | ||
| He's never worked a real job before that. | ||
| He's a bum! He is a street bum, and he knows that this is his free ride. | ||
| So he lets the Democrats use him for his socialist message, and he's just a lazy bum. | ||
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| You know, I'm not claiming to be the smartest guy on earth. | ||
| I'm probably not. I'm never going to claim that I'm smarter than anyone. | ||
| But I will tell you this. | ||
| I'm most likely more well-researched, and I'm not lazy. | ||
| Now here's why I'm saying this. | ||
| Okay, first of all, we had this story earlier today from the Daily Beast, Betsy Woodruff, citing one of the new appointments to the Mueller council is in there to make sure that the Russians show up for court. | ||
| They already showed up for court. | ||
| Mueller skipped it. Again, you're so lazy and so uninformed that you publish... | ||
| That the Russians aren't showing up into court when they already have and Mueller skipped it. | ||
| That's how lazy and uninformed you are. | ||
| Okay? So that's you, Betsy Woodruff, at the Daily Beast. | ||
| You are the lazy one that doesn't do your research. | ||
| Am I smarter than Betsy Woodruff? | ||
| I don't know. I just know I'm more researched. | ||
| Here's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez with a tweet yesterday. | ||
| She says... Okay, there's so much wrong with this tweet. | ||
| Like, where do I begin? | ||
| First of all, she says... | ||
| GOP inventing $2 trillion out of thin air for freebies for people with yachts? | ||
| A little context? | ||
| She just says that. | ||
| Where's the context? She doesn't give any proof. | ||
| Like, by the way, have you ever heard of the fractional reserve banking system, hun? | ||
| They literally invent cash out of thin air. | ||
| That's the fractional reserve banking system. | ||
| I mean, that's her whole philosophy. | ||
| Her whole philosophy is inventing money. | ||
| That's what I'm saying! | ||
| It's insane! And so she creates class warfare. | ||
| She says something about the GOP just giving free money out there, even though that's all she wants, but she doesn't even know what fractional reserve banking is that literally creates money out of thin air. | ||
| I mean, I just... I don't know how to analyze this other than they're lazy, unresearched, ignorant people. | ||
| And they're dumb. I mean, like, I'm unafraid to admit that they're just dumb. | ||
| These people are very stupid to buy into this type of ideology. | ||
| I mean, because if you look at... | ||
| Marxism, like actual Marxism, which also feeds into socialism and also feeds into this cultural Marxism that we talk about, which is a really critical theory. | ||
| comes out of the Frankfurt School, the Institute for Social Research, they try to look at the economy as a science. | ||
| Like it's intertwined with social studies. | ||
| And it's not a science how we think of like, well, supply and demand. | ||
| It's like they think that you can scientifically predict that after a while capitalism will collapse into socialism or communism. | ||
| So these people don't actually think. | ||
| It's so deterministic and it's so weird that I can't even explain it like a normal person. | ||
| These people are so dumb that they actually buy into this. | ||
| They go, oh, that makes sense that if this happens and this happens, eventually we'll have socialism and it'll all work perfectly. | ||
| Real smart people realize, okay, humans operate in a certain way. | ||
| Humans have a certain nature and that's been the same for all eternity and it always will be. | ||
| We're not going to suddenly become better people and suddenly be able to make communism work. | ||
| Well, and there's this weird... | ||
| I guess it's a belief or cult thinking where you have this policy that the government is a charity. | ||
| No! The government is not a charity! | ||
| Look, we all want every human being to have access to everything and all of the world's glorious everything technology. | ||
| Everybody wants that, okay? | ||
| That's not what the government's for. | ||
| That is not what the government is for. | ||
| And as soon as you make that the government, the government collapses. | ||
| But let's move on to another issue. | ||
| This is another example of just the absurdity and I guess how dumb the left is. | ||
| This story is from Breitbart and we already knew this but DHS is now reporting that the migrants are leaving their children with Trump's agency. | ||
| So the left comes out and says Trump is separating kids from their families. | ||
| No, the truth is the families are separating the families. | ||
| They are the ones sending their kids across the border without any parents. | ||
| They're the ones that show up into the hands of ICE or border control and say, please, take our kids. | ||
| We can't help them. Please, take them. | ||
| Here they are. And then the left says, look at Trump separating families. | ||
| The families are paying to do this. | ||
| I mean... It's just crazy. | ||
| I don't know how I was to explain it. Well, they pay the coyotes to take them across the border. | ||
| And then they get separated from them. | ||
| And of course, like you said, the left freaks out. | ||
| They say, oh, they're separating families. | ||
| But the families were separated as soon as the kids were given over to these people who often abuse them, whether physically or sexually or whatever. | ||
| Not even just the coyotes, just crossing the desert all the time in these groups. | ||
| Which is worse than whatever camps they put them in. | ||
| And the thing is, if you as a parent are handing your child over and paying this person to take them across the border, you don't have any guarantee that this bad person is not going to get a double payday out of this child. | ||
| First, they get paid from the parent, handing them over to take across the border. | ||
| How do you know they're not going to sell them into human trafficking? | ||
| It happens a lot of times. | ||
| It's a bad, it's a very, very irresponsible decision by these parents. | ||
| And honestly, it's better for the kid that they're getting taken into these facilities by the government. | ||
| The government will likely put them into foster care or they'll send them back to the Mexican government who should really take care of them or give them to some family that's going to take care of them better. | ||
| But it's not our responsibility. | ||
| We can't retroactively stop the bad decisions by the parents. | ||
| How dare ICE want to keep these children from being sex trafficked? | ||
| You know, I mean, how dare border control want to keep these kids from being sex trafficked? | ||
| Well, it's like the story that I'm sure you've talked about, where ICE was actually breaking up a child or human trafficking ring, and outside all the Democrats were protesting. | ||
| Like, oh, you know, stop ICE, stop ICE, stop ICE. And they were really saving human beings from being sold. | ||
| Here's another one for you. | ||
| This will... This will make you feel good, actually, I think. | ||
| Unmasking Antifa Act introduced in Congress. | ||
| 15-year sentence for masked mayhem. | ||
| You know what's ironic about this? | ||
| This is basically kind of the... | ||
| Reintroduction, if you will, of an old law that was written for who? | ||
| The Klan. That's right. | ||
| Unmasking the Klan because they'd show up with their faces covered and do a bunch of racist activity against black people. | ||
| So they had to write laws that you couldn't do that. | ||
| So they unmasked the Klan. Now we're going to have to unmask Antifa, the modern day Klan, I guess. | ||
| Well, that's actually a really good point. | ||
| You know, I think that we should probably, you know, President Trump should use the same strategy because... | ||
| whenever the Klan was still really active was they would get arrested they'd get put in jail and they go into trial and the sympathizers on the jury would say oh you know they're fine like I don't see any evidence of a crime and they just let them go for for for no reason get out of jail free card so they had to you know JFK had to implement some federal policies in order to get these people actually locked away and break up the Klan and So maybe the way that they do this, because obviously California doesn't want to, you know, restrict any of this activity. | ||
| They don't want to punish people for committing these crimes. | ||
| But they do want to punish people like Kyle Chapman, who were just, you know, defending themselves at the Berkeley rallies. | ||
| So I think that maybe the appropriate way for us to deal with this is just for President Trump and the federal government to restrict the activities of Antifa, maybe even more so than just banning face masks. | ||
| Well, that's one way to start. | ||
| And I kind of brought that up at the city council here in Austin, Texas. | ||
| All right, Jake Lloyd, thank you for joining me, folks. | ||
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| It's The War Room with Owen Troyer. | ||
| Watch the live stream at InfoWars.com forward slash show. | ||
| I am now joined by Jack Berkman, jackberkmanradio.com. | ||
| Jack was imperative on organizing and getting the press conference yesterday that many of you saw here on InfoWars and other outlets out there, where they had an anonymous source, who I am calling Luke Anon, call into the press conference. | ||
| That is after we heard from the former New York Police Department homicide detective and Jack from his own investigative research on this. | ||
| And then we went to Lucanon on the phone and the press asked some questions. | ||
| So Jack joins me now. | ||
| Just first, Jack, in the 24 hours now that we've had with the press conference leading up to now, what has been the media response to this? | ||
| And what about the people that have been following this story? | ||
| What has their response been? Owen, good evening. | ||
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What a pleasure. Oh, the response has been just so overwhelming. | |
| I mean, I think we have every media out in the country now is taking an interest. | ||
| I like Lucanon. | ||
| I'll follow you. We've been calling him Luke in lieu of his real name, so I will now adopt the moniker Lucanon in your honor. | ||
| You know, basically, yesterday we had a witness come out. | ||
| And really tell us what happened to Seth Rich at a unit level. | ||
| A DEA agent and an ATF agent did the shooting. | ||
| We've got a witness telling us that. | ||
| The real question now, Owen, is who ordered this? | ||
| How far up the food chain does it go? | ||
| The witness also fingers Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, fingers him very clearly saying when he was the U.S. attorney in Maryland, he knew both the DEA agent and the ATF agent and that all three of these people had great fear of what Seth had on this thumb drive. | ||
| Now, Seth carried this thumb drive around with him much in the same way the president carried the nuclear football. | ||
| He carried it around with them. | ||
| He was the technical guy, the computer guy for the DNC. He carried it around with them. | ||
| The DEA agent and the ATF agent. | ||
| I know who they are. I'm not ready to release their names because I'm afraid Lucanon could be killed. | ||
| I'm not going to get my witness killed. | ||
| I have to protect him and his family. | ||
| I do that above all else. | ||
| I know their names. At some point soon, we'll release them. | ||
| We have all of that information. | ||
| We have hours of tape with our witness. | ||
| We have all this. The only issue is who ordered it. | ||
| We're now looking closely at Rosenstein. | ||
| Just so the audience is clear on what you're discussing here, the witness that phoned into the press conference yesterday who we're referring to as Lucanon works inside government agencies or has in the past. | ||
| He's worked in counterterrorism and other instances. | ||
| He's been questioned by even Congress committees such as the House Intel Committee, not necessarily about Seth Rich, but about other issues to which he said he has brought that up to the House Intel Committee, which is kind of a very interesting matzah ball that is just sitting out there, which is kind of a very interesting matzah ball that is just sitting out there, So that may manifest in some way, shape or form. | ||
| But getting back to Luke Anon, so you say that you actually know the names of the two agents that Luke Anon claims to have overheard bragging about the Seth Rich investigation, which when we look up to the top, it looks like there may be involvement from Rosenstein with his involvement in Baltimore and just being in the deep it looks like there may be involvement from Rosenstein with his involvement in Baltimore but that's another angle we can go off here in a second. | ||
| So, I just want to clarify with you, though... | ||
| Had you spoken to Luke Annan prior to that press conference yesterday and how many times? | ||
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Oh, extensively. The answer is many times. | |
| I just spent an hour with him Sunday. | ||
| I wouldn't put somebody out there in this. | ||
| I was absolutely certain they were fully credible. | ||
| And this guy is 100% credible. | ||
| I can tell you he has no axe to grind. | ||
| He never asked for money. | ||
| He didn't even ask for security. | ||
| He has no desire for fame or anything else. | ||
| He's insistent, at least for the time, on keeping his name secret. | ||
| He wants nothing other than to do the right thing for his country. | ||
| I can tell you Lucanon is a patriot. | ||
| So you have done enough vetting into Lucanon to believe that he is at least legitimate and it is very plausible that his story is true? | ||
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Yes. Answers are yes, really yes, yes, and yes. | |
| He worked in law enforcement. | ||
| He worked in army intel. | ||
| He has a sterling military record. | ||
| He has a heroic record in law enforcement. | ||
| He was in the Maryland area in law enforcement and really has done a good many things. | ||
| Now, this is where it really starts to get interesting to me when you bring in Rod Rosenstein. | ||
| You know, Jack, I've said this and I think pretty much anybody would agree with me here, whether you're into the Seth Rich story, whether you hate Donald Trump, whether you're a conservative, liberal, Republican, Democrat, I think you ask anybody. | ||
| Hey, do you think there's corruption in Washington? | ||
| So much so to the fact that it even envies that of a house of cards, people getting assassinated, people getting disappeared, stuff like that. | ||
| Do you think the corruption reaches that level? | ||
| I think the average American would agree with you. | ||
| And I think deep down that they know that that happens. | ||
| People don't just come up with these ideas willy-nilly for these books and these movies. | ||
| There's actual real-life circumstances that... | ||
| those films and television shows and books. | ||
| So this is my question. | ||
| Knowing that that element of DC exists, or at least most people believing that element of DC exists, do you believe that we are hovering over that target right now? | ||
| Is this truly that deep state maniacal corruption in DC that we all know exists that will gladly pull the trigger to protect itself? | ||
| Rosenstein, it goes all the way up. | ||
| We know now with the connections to Rosenstein, do you think we are hovering over that element of D.C.? I do. | ||
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And I think Frank Underwood is a wonderful analogy to Rod Rosenstein. | |
| I mean, Underwood House of Guards is a very sophisticated, it's a much more sophisticated analogy for Rosenstein. | ||
| But you have to understand when Rosenstein was the U.S. attorney in Baltimore and for the state of Maryland, the district of Maryland, he was the boss of all of these people. | ||
| He oversaw the DEA agent. | ||
| He oversaw the ATF agent. | ||
| He oversaw all of the federal agents. | ||
| It would be a long shot, frankly, to say that he wasn't somehow involved. | ||
| You see, Rosenstein and these two agents were very worried about what was on this thumb drive. | ||
| They were worried about what emails were on there. | ||
| They were worried about what doctored emails were on there. | ||
| We don't know exactly what was on there. | ||
| We don't know exactly what their preoccupation was. | ||
| But we know that all three of them were very worried. | ||
| And so the answer to that question perhaps leads you down the next rabbit trail, should you get it, which is, why were they so concerned about it? | ||
| And was it truly Rosenstein that was concerned about the contents of that thumb drive? | ||
| Or was it perhaps somebody else? | ||
| Maybe a Clinton, maybe an Obama, maybe someone else, maybe a Mueller. | ||
| Maybe there's someone else that had a personal interest in making sure that whatever was on that thumb drive did not see the light of day. | ||
| And Rosenstein just ended up being the bag man, essentially. | ||
| Guys, did we lose Jack? | ||
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I'm here now. I got you. | |
| Okay, did you hear my last points there? | ||
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Yes. Yes, it's a very good question. | |
| It goes to how far up the food chain this goes. | ||
| The answer is we don't know. | ||
| Look, I think all eyes need to be on Hillary Clinton because I think Rod Rosenstein, he felt she was going to be elected president. | ||
| And maybe he wanted this thumb drive to blackmail her. | ||
| Maybe he wanted this thumb drive to curry favor with her. | ||
| But I have a strong feeling the Clintons are involved. | ||
| And I can tell you more than that, more than that, I've done, I've done, I'm involved in any number of investigations. | ||
| Rosenstein's name comes up so many times whenever you are looking at something bad. | ||
| What I really think, Owen, is that the Seth Rich matter is the epicenter of the deep state. | ||
| I think Seth Rich is not the iceberg. | ||
| I think he's but the tip of the iceberg in a much larger investigation of corruption within the national security bureaucracy. | ||
| And the reason why this carries so much weight, I think, is because of everything we're seeing right now with the fake news, with the Russia collusion, how Hillary started that. | ||
| You know, that's kind of the... | ||
| The element that's sitting out there, but it really does all come back to Seth Rich. | ||
| Why? Because they're claiming that it was the WikiLeaks emails that prove Russian collusion. | ||
| Well, if Seth Rich had something to do with getting emails off the Democrat server, now all of a sudden you see how it all ties in together. | ||
| And look, let's be perfectly clear. | ||
| If they're that desperate to get Hillary in, which I think it's obvious that they were, they're still in denial that Trump won. | ||
| If they were that desperate... | ||
| That's why they would do this right in the middle of the street. | ||
| This isn't a Vince Foster incident or any of these other incidents where they can erase it. | ||
| This one is right in the middle of the streets and everybody knows it happened. | ||
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The War Room. | |
| Infowars.com forward slash show. | ||
| All right, final segment of the War final segment of the War Room. | ||
| My guest is Jack Berkman. | ||
| Again, he's been investigating the unsolved murder of Seth Rich. | ||
| JackBerkmanRadio.com is where you can find a lot of his work. | ||
| He organized a press conference yesterday where we had the speakerphone call-in from Luke Anon who has claimed to know the Seth Rich murderers because they were bragging about it. | ||
| He Is on the inside, and that's how he was able to get that intel, and he has reportedly given that intel over to the House Intel Committee. | ||
| So a lot of interesting developments there, but Jack, I want to ask you this, and I'm sorry to put you on the spot right now, but feel free to take your time and think about this. | ||
| You've been investigating this unsolved murder now for, we'll just say, two years. | ||
| It's the two year anniversary of Seth Rich's unsolved murder. | ||
| What events along the way have shaped your point of view of this? | ||
| What significant events along the way of your investigation have led you to certain conclusions, certain beliefs, or motivated you to keep searching for answers? | ||
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Well, initially, you know, I pictured when Mary Rich got the phone call at 5 a.m. | |
| telling her her son was dead, I pictured my mother, who'd often warned me of safety. | ||
| And when I was about Seth's age, my mother used to talk obsessively about safety. | ||
| And I think that's the main reason I got involved, because it could have been my son. | ||
| It could have been my mother with me. | ||
| It could have been any of the young people, Democrats or Republicans, who work for me. | ||
| We have both. And so that's really what compelled me to get involved. | ||
| But I'll be very honest with you, Owen. | ||
| I don't know that I've said this before. | ||
| Yesterday was the first big significant development in the long, hard two-year investigation because this is the first real strong witness to come forward and say, we know who the shooters are. | ||
| We know who they were dealing with up the chain. | ||
| Now all we have to do is put this together, find out how far up the chain it goes, and solve this thing. | ||
| Well, and that's incredible to say because this is something that happened just by chance. | ||
| This wasn't something that you organized or even were trying to spur forward. | ||
| This guy just happens to be inside hearing this, doesn't even know who Jack Berkman is, doesn't even know who Seth Rich is, and then hears this and kind of goes out and does his own research and through his own tentacles is able to connect with you. | ||
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Well said. You said it better than I did. | |
| Well said. Let me tell you the first thing. | ||
| There are many pieces of credibility for Lucanon, but let me tell you the first thing that made me, the first time I talked to him, He didn't know the name. | ||
| When the name Kevin Doherty was presented to him, he didn't know that I had been shot in March and he didn't know that Doherty shot me. | ||
| And when he'd heard the name Kevin Doherty, he said, wait a minute, I know that name. | ||
| I didn't know that he shot Berkman. | ||
| But Kevin Doherty paled around with and was friends with the DEA agent and the ATF agent and the ATF agent Who shot Seth? | ||
| And I said, oh my God, here you have a guy. | ||
| He didn't even hear that I was shot. | ||
| And yet he knows the name Kevin Doherty in another context. | ||
| That was what glued me to Lupinon. | ||
| Then we began the serious vetting and we found out all we needed to know. | ||
| Well, this is, you know, and just so people understand where your head is at on this, you know, I asked you what significant events during this investigation, you know, spurred you forward. | ||
| He doesn't even mention the fact he gets shot and ran over by a car. | ||
| I mean, that tells you, at least to me, Jack, where your heart and soul is when it comes to this. | ||
| And, you know, I'll just say this. | ||
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Two bullets or nothing. Oh, and two bullets or nothing. | |
| So I got a couple of bullets in me. | ||
| So what? So what, right? | ||
| Hey, you keep fighting, and thank God that you're still here to do the good work that you're doing. | ||
| I'm sure that they are not happy that that is how it turned out. | ||
| I'm not trying to—I don't want you to think I'm sliding your source, Lucanon, or anything like that. | ||
| Not at all, not at all. I'm not doing that at all. | ||
| And when I say this, I'm kind of saying it tongue in cheek. | ||
| However, I'm also kind of serious. | ||
| The next time, if there is another incident yesterday where a Washington Post reporter or a Daily Beast reporter Hey, I understand. | ||
| You say, hey, why should I trust you? | ||
| Perfectly responsible question for a journalist to ask. | ||
| I'm not sliding them for that. | ||
| However, they kept pounding it, and the reason why they did that is they wanted to discredit the source, is really what it was about. | ||
| They didn't really care about journalistic integrity. | ||
| They worked for the Daily Beast and the Washington Post. | ||
| If they cared about journalistic integrity, they wouldn't work there. | ||
| So I say this tongue-in-cheek, but I'm serious. | ||
| If there's another instance like that, I think Luke Anon should come out and if they want to ask him, who do you work for? | ||
| If they say the Washington Post, just say, you know what? | ||
| Screw you. I'm dead serious. | ||
| I think he should have said it because they don't have any interest in the Seth Rich case except to try to discredit it. | ||
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That's right. Those are just left-wing commentary rags, both of them, and it's a shame. | |
| You're right. They were making political statements there. | ||
| They're there just to make a statement. | ||
| I couldn't agree more. | ||
| I'll tell you, Lucanon's voice is on the Internet. | ||
| Lucanon, whether I want it, whether he wants it, his identity will be known in just a few days. | ||
| The voice is on the Internet. | ||
| Everything's out. I don't think there's any way to keep it secret, although I'll try. | ||
| I made a commitment to him. In any event, I think he will want to come out in the coming weeks for sure, one way or the other. | ||
| Alright, now this is a little more of a touchy situation, and you talked about this a little bit yesterday. | ||
| You mentioned it earlier today, but Seth Rich's parents, you know, they've kind of had an interesting timeline when it comes to this thing. | ||
| Obviously, we're grieving for them. | ||
| I'm not trying to put any pressure on them. | ||
| I don't think that was ever the case from you either. | ||
| But I'm just curious, after yesterday's press conference, Have they reached out to you? | ||
| Do they still have a stance on this that is that they don't want to be associated with you? | ||
| And where does that relationship stand? | ||
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No, I mean, they made it very clear to me they did not want any part of my investigation. | |
| Initially, we were working with them, but I think they found out I wanted to conduct a real investigation. | ||
| I'll follow those leads wherever they go. | ||
| I don't think, frankly, they like that. | ||
| I think they respect and like the fact that I Gave a $105,000 reward for their son, but I don't think they like the rest, so that's just where it stands, Owen. | ||
| And again, now the reward is up almost half a million dollars. | ||
| If this was some regular botched robbery, a street crime, somebody would have came forward already with that information. | ||
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To be sure, to be sure. | |
| I mean, on the streets of D.C., I mean, my goodness, this isn't the Upper East Side of New York, right? | ||
| $455,000? You mean there's not a gang bug? | ||
| There's not somebody? I mean, we would have all kinds of people coming out. | ||
| It's not even remotely possible. | ||
| Hey, I'm just curious, because I had this idea. | ||
| Have you ever thought about maybe changing the reward policy and saying, we'll give $20,000 to anybody who can produce a surveillance tape from that night? | ||
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Not a bad idea. | |
| Not a bad idea at all. | ||
| Now, there is something we know that I haven't released, and I'll maybe make some news here on your program, Owen. | ||
| There was a witness that the D.C. police talked to. | ||
| I don't want to get into her name. | ||
| She was a U.S. government employee who was a live witness that night. | ||
| We don't know what she saw. | ||
| We don't know what information they took from her. | ||
| D.C. police have never released this information. | ||
| We found it out through other sources that But we're continuing to attack this from all sides. | ||
| And like I say, more from Luke and on soon. | ||
| Yeah, I would think maybe if you kind of just said, you know, or maybe 40,000, whatever you have to do to see if you can't get some of that surveillance tape that we know is out there. | ||
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That's a good idea. In fact, in the way, listen, I believe in seizing the day, carpe diem. | |
| Let's seize the moment. I will take you up on your offer right now. | ||
| If there's tape out there, I will offer $20,000 right now to anyone with a tape. | ||
| I'll make that offer here and now. | ||
| I put my word behind it. | ||
| I will pay that. | ||
| You bring me surveillance tape from that night. | ||
| You have millions of viewers for a program like this. | ||
| I put this out to folks in the Washington, D.C. area, all over the country, all over the world. | ||
| If you have tape of that night of this incident, $20,000 for you. | ||
| So there you go. If you can produce surveillance tape from that night or any sort of tape from that night, Seth Rich was killed, the unsolved murder. | ||
| Jack Berkman has just said that $20,000 is yours. | ||
| So let's get that word out there. | ||
| Final question, Jack. We've got a minute and a half left here. | ||
| Do you believe that there is any ongoing investigation from any police force anywhere outside of either retired police force or outside of what you're doing that's being cupped under wraps? | ||
| Or do you think they've really just put this in the cold case file, it's over? | ||
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I really think at this point it's just us. | |
| The D.C. police made it very clear that they want this in the cold case file. | ||
| The mayor wanted no part of this. | ||
| The mayor and the chief long ago quit returning my calls when they saw I was serious about conducting an investigation. | ||
| This thing has been in the cold case locker for a long time at D.C. police headquarters. | ||
| All right. Well, Jack, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Again, jackberkmanradio.com is where you can find all of his independent work. | ||
| And Jack, just thank you for doing this. | ||
| I appreciate you coming on with us today. | ||
| And keep up the good work, brother. | ||
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Thanks, Owen. You too. Thanks so much. | |
| Appreciate the opportunity. Alright, thank you, Jack. | ||
| Wow, so we actually get a couple exclusives there on the War Room from Jack Berkman, so I appreciate him sharing those exclusives with us, and you would, well... | ||
| There's going to be more developments. | ||
| Whether you want to trust him or not is up to you, folks. | ||
| But this is an unsolved murder case with so many holes in it and so much evidence of a cover-up. | ||
| I mean, if this doesn't intrigue you, I just don't understand why. | ||
| I mean, come on. You want to talk about D.C. intrigue and corruption, the Seth Rich murder has it all over it. | ||
| Thanks for tuning in. That does it for The War Room. | ||
| You stay classy, InfoWarriors. | ||
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