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*BANG* Give me liberty or give me death!
The fight for the future is now.
This is The War Room with Owen Troyer.
Watch the live stream right now at Infowars.com forward slash show.
owen shroyer
A lot of Americans...
When given the choice between liberty and death, would gladly choose death as they march to give over their rights to the government, the March for Our Lives, an anti-gun march.
Of course, they told us that if you said anything negative about the March for Our Lives or responded to the March for Our Lives, that you were bullying children.
But the numbers are in, and it turns out it wasn't just children that were at the March for Our Lives.
joe scarborough
Virginia. Talk about the makeup of this crowd in the protest this weekend.
Who was there?
How many first-timers?
And what impact do you think it's going to have in the long run in American politics?
unidentified
Well, these are great questions, Joe.
First and foremost, I think it's important to note here that while young people mobilize people to participate, what's really interesting is that less than 10% of the people in the crowd were actually under the age of 18.
So that's 90% of the people there who actually can vote today.
owen shroyer
Okay, so it wasn't just a kids' march.
Got you. So that narrative's a lie.
unidentified
It turned out over a quarter of the people who had never participated...
owen shroyer
Okay, so that's fine. So that's good.
I'm glad that the sociologist Dana Fisher goes on MSNBC and goes against the lies that these are just children marching, so you're not allowed to respond.
Otherwise, you're bullying children.
But that didn't stop MSNBC for pushing you to sign the petition.
unidentified
It was hard not to be moved by their stories by those moments this weekend.
Nearly 5,000 people registered to vote Saturday.
That's according to Headcount, a nonpartisan group at the marches.
There's also a push called Parents Promise to Kids that encourages voters to sign a contract vowing to vote for candidates who, as they describe it, put child safety ahead of guns.
I'm joined now by two of the students who started Parents Promise to Kids, Adam Buckwald and Zach Hipschman.
They are both juniors at Stoneman Douglas.
I'm also joined by English and journalism teacher at Stoneman Douglas, Sarah Lerner.
She was in D.C. this weekend for the march.
Yes, sign the petition. We just introduced this wonderful movement called Parents Promise to Kids.
This is a contract that we're asking every parent and grandparent in the nation to promise their children that they will vote for ethical legislators.
We'll put children's safety over guns.
We're going to get every parent and grandparent and we're going to rally and we are going to have everyone vote.
owen shroyer
But think about the logic. There is none.
What happened when the shooter entered the school in Florida?
No one had a gun.
So now you want to sign a petition to have every house, because of the parents, be just like the school, a gun-free zone, so that a shooter can walk into your house and shoot you without defense.
Real smart. Real logical.
I guess you haven't thought too long about that one, have you?
So now they're saying, sign a petition, parents who want to put children ahead of guns.
It's not about guns.
The guns are an inanimate object.
The guns are a tool.
The guns are a tool used for protection.
So now you want to turn in the number one self-protection tool.
You now want to turn that in and say it's for your own protection.
And then MSNBC pushes that out as their propaganda.
But what is this all about?
It's all about impeaching Trump, folks.
That's what the final endgame for this is.
And here's Maxine Waters.
She just can't wait to go on the next TV interview to talk about impeaching Trump.
unidentified
It's going to happen, I think, until the people in this country stand up and say that they will not tolerate what is going on in the White House any longer.
That's a straight loon. American people must stand up.
And I say they must call for his impeachment.
Some people are saying that, well, we'll vote in 2020.
We cannot stand that.
We cannot wait for that.
owen shroyer
Mm-hmm. So Maxine Waters wants to become the dictator and remove, impeach the president that was elected by the Republic.
Who are the real authoritarians here?
Who are the real Nazis here?
The ones that want to take the guns and the ones that want to remove a duly elected president.
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InfoWars Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the InfoWars War Room.
It is Tuesday, March 27, 2018.
I'm your host, Owen Troyer, and I have a loaded docket for you today.
Tons of news, but hardly enough time to cover it as we've got guests throughout the show.
I'm joined by Gabriel Kelderhaus in the first hour.
You're not going to want to miss that interview.
He has an interesting story about how his rifle saved potentially his life as well as children's lives.
Of course, Roger Stone joins us in the second hour.
And then in the third hour, I have Steve Pachenik.
Dr. Steve Pachenik will join me.
We'll talk about North Korea, John Bolton, some other things.
And then Jesse Lee Peterson joins me as well in the third hour.
Amazing video clips from Jesse out on the streets at March for Our Lives that you're not going to want to miss.
So absolutely loaded show.
Doesn't leave me too much time for news.
So I figure I might as well do my due diligence and start hammering away at the headlines now.
So let's just get right into it here on The War Room.
And what are the most interesting times probably ever to be alive as a human being on planet Earth?
Alright, so...
Mark Zuckerberg is now going to have to testify before Congress.
He's had to face this.
First, he went into hiding after the left tried to eat its own with the Facebook data mining scandal that Barack Obama and the Democrats bragged about.
Then when Trump did it, it was criminal behavior.
Well, now they're looking back at...
What Zuckerberg did for Obama and thinking maybe that was criminal behavior.
U.S. states step up pressure on Facebook.
That's from the Wall Street Journal.
So government officials ratcheted up pressure on Monday on Facebook, Inc.
over its handling of user data.
And now federal regulators are investigating Facebook.
Zuckerberg's going to have to testify.
Did Facebook's favors for the Obama campaign constitute a violation of federal law?
Controversy continues to swirl around how the consulting firm Cambridge Analytica obtained personal data from over 50 million Facebook users without their knowledge and used it to target ads to individuals in an effort to help Trump be elected president in 2016.
Well, that's kind of a misnomer because it...
Well, okay, I guess that's fair, but they did the same thing for Obama.
Obama spearheaded that.
Democrats bragged about it.
Then Trump did it, and it became a criminal conspiracy.
So now they're looking back on it and saying, wait a second, Obama did this first.
Of course, you sign your rights away when you use Facebook.
Go ahead and read the terms and conditions.
I doubt anybody that's used Facebook has.
And then an interesting ripple to this story...
Cambridge Analytica data specialist who was found dead in Kenyon Hotel as whistleblowers tell MPs he may have been poisoned after a deal went sour.
So now you've got more intrigue into Cambridge Analytica and a death of a data specialist that now whistleblowers say may have been poisoned.
Alright, so there's that stack of news.
Let's now get into this stack of news.
This is crazy. Citizens question to be put back on the 2020 census for the first time in 70 years.
Now this has Democrats and liberals freaking out.
Let me just continue down these headlines.
This is from CNN. Commerce Department says citizenship question will be reinstated in 2020 census.
So Wilbur Ross is the one getting a lot of credit for this.
Huffington Post. Trump administration decides to add a question about citizenship to 2020 census as if that's some crazy notion.
So let me get this straight. You complain about rigged elections, but then you don't want voter ID laws so anybody could vote any amount of times.
You complain about rigged elections, but you don't want even a citizenship question on the census to make sure that it's actually Americans voting in the elections.
But to take it a step further and really question where your logic lies, Why is it so bad to have this question on the census?
Why wouldn't you want to know how many American citizens there are and how many non-citizens are living here?
Why is that such an outrage?
So now you have people threatening to sue the Trump administration for doing it, saying it's racist, saying it's this, that, and the other thing, all the normal excuses.
Oh, they want to be racist against people of color.
Oh, they want to be racist against people that might not be citizens.
How is it racist?
How is it racist? And it all comes back Do the same thing.
In fact, I'll just go to this now from the ACLU. See, this is what it's all about.
Listen to this email from the ACLU. Imagine taking your regular bus to work or school.
The bus pulls over and Border Patrol agents get on board.
Row by row, they scan passengers for anybody deemed suspicious due to the color of the skin, accent, or the way they dress.
Well, that's not true. They just made that up.
You think you're just taking the bus home like any other day, but you end up arrested, detained, and in worst cases, deported.
Now, who are they talking to?
Who are they addressing to in that email?
Who is their audience? Not you.
Not me. People who are in the country illegally.
Who else would be afraid that they're going to get deported?
Only someone that's here illegally.
So the ACLU's target demographic is non-citizens.
The American Civil Liberties Union's target demographic is non-citizens, and they now are openly admitting it in their emails.
And they go on.
This is all part of the Trump administration's shameful and hateful agenda to intimidate and expel immigrants from this country.
Wrong again! Immigrants are not afraid of being deported.
Immigrants are not afraid of being deported.
Can the average brain-dead liberal get that through their head?
Like the right to take your daily commute without having to prove your citizenship or fear arrest and deportation.
That's the point!
They can't prove their citizenship because they're not citizens!
And then the ACLU sends this email out because that's their target demographic.
And then they get all this funding and they get all this money to protect non-citizens.
Not your rights. Not Americans' rights.
Non-citizens.
Not even their rights.
Just non-citizens, period.
And so then they say, how dare Trump add, how dare Wilbur Ross add to the 2020 sentence, are you a citizen?
Yeah, how dare the leader of this country want to know how many citizens are in the country and how many non-citizens are in the country?
I mean, that is just insane, right?
I mean, the nerve.
The nerve. And folks, let me tell you something.
In fact, you know what? I won't even get into this yet.
Because let's just say, I got something up my sleeve with this one.
And... If the people in Trump's administration know what I know about the census and the last census I think they've got something up their sleeve with this deal.
I really think they've got something up their sleeve with this deal.
I'll just leave it at that folks.
First of all, non-citizens have already been skipping the census already.
They already avoid the census as hard as they can.
Ask any census worker.
Trust me. But so now they're making it to the next level, and they're going to say, all right, now we can get a number of how many non-citizens are here.
Or, if you're refusing the census and you're not going to take the census, now all of a sudden we have another question about you.
So I think there might be something up the Trump administration's sleeve with that.
You do have a couple big breaking news stories today, including Bibi Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu.
He gets hospitalized today.
The doctors say he had a fever and cough two weeks ago that he didn't properly take care of.
So now it's gotten worse and he's been hospitalized.
That's the story.
But then here in America, the FBI, well, let me just say these headlines, Airport suspends flights over ball-bearing test-room bag.
Oh, that's another story. Oh, yeah.
A suspicious bag of two South Korean passengers brought the bomb squad out.
It turned out just to be some ball bearings.
So you kind of get that now in this fear state we live in.
However... This is why we live in it.
Man arrested in suspicious packages sent to military states.
Authorities near Seattle have arrested a man suspected of sending suspicious packages to multiple military installations in the Washington, D.C. region.
The FBI said Tuesday they released this statement today.
They had suspicious packages that they believe could have been dangerous sent to Fort Belvoir in Virginia, Joint Base Anacostia in Bowling, Fort Leslie, J. McNair in D.C., Naval Surface Warfare Center in Virginia, and the CIA in Langley.
And the man that they've pulled into custody is Tron Kong Fan.
Tron Kong Fan, a 43-year-old individual.
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Again, suspicious packages.
And the FBI continues to advise the public to remain vigilant and not touch any suspicious packages.
Man gets taken into custody for suspicious packages sent to U.S. bases.
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They use their media to assassinate real news.
They use their schools to teach children that their president is another Hitler.
They use their movie stars and singers and comedy shows and award shows to repeat their narrative over and over again.
And then they use their ex-president to endorse the resistance.
All to make them march, make them protest, make them scream racism and sexism and xenophobia and homophobia, to smash windows, burn cars, shut down interstates and airports, bully and terrorize the law abiding.
Until the only option left is for the police to do their jobs and stop the madness.
And when that happens, they'll use it as an excuse for their outrage.
The only way we stop this, the only way we save our country and our freedom is to fight this violence of lies with a clenched fist of truth.
I'm the National Rifle Association of America, and I'm freedom's safest place.
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owen shroyer
Well, every day we put out a poll every day we put out a poll at War Room Show on Twitter.
Call it a poll of the day, if you will.
Today's poll, what would happen in America if the Second Amendment was repealed?
Of course, this is in response to the former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens writing the opinion for the New York Times, repeal the Second Amendment.
Of course, the funny thing about that is you can't repeal the Second Amendment.
I don't know how a Supreme Court justice, a former one, doesn't understand that.
You can't repeal the Second Amendment.
Just read the Constitution.
It's a God-given right to all Americans.
So you cannot repeal the Second Amendment.
If you want to repeal America, that's basically what you're saying.
You want to repeal America. If you repeal the Second Amendment, you repeal America.
So there's the poll. What happens if the Second Amendment is repealed in America?
11% say less gun crime.
That's the lowest response rate.
17% say more gun crime.
And then the highest response rate by far, just over 1,500 votes an hour in.
Civil War, say 72% of people polled.
Now, here's the funny thing.
Looking at the responses, you have all the liberals that respond, and they say, Oh, there's InfoWars!
War mongering again!
Oh, look at Alex Jones calling for civil war on the streets!
Uh, no.
I put out a poll.
We didn't call for anything.
This is a poll saying what would happen.
You're the ones that want war on the streets.
You're the ones inciting a civil war when you call for the repeal of the Second Amendment.
That's going to start the civil war.
Not us. We're not starting anything.
unidentified
That's you. You come to take our property?
owen shroyer
You come to take our rights?
That's you inciting a civil war.
Not us. But they don't get it.
So there's the poll of the day at War Room Show on Twitter.
Let's stay on this topic.
You know what? I forgot to send the crew these graphics, so you're going to have to docu-cam this.
Yesterday, before I left the office...
This video from CNN's YouTube channel was trending, number 13 on YouTube.
Of course, that's totally fake, totally rigged algorithms.
But regardless, the video was Emma Gonzalez gives speech at March for Our Lives rally.
Now, when I left the office yesterday, probably just before 7 o'clock, this video had 624,000 views.
It was number 13 trending on YouTube.
It had 14,000 likes, 20,000 dislikes.
20,000 dislikes.
Guys, while I'm covering this, actually, pull up my video from the gun march this weekend that has over 100,000 views.
Let's just get a look at the likes and dislikes of that, or any of our videos that get hundreds of thousands of views.
But so this is... Last night, 20,000 dislikes for Emma Gonzalez's speech on the CNN video.
Only 14,000 likes.
So you get more dislikes than likes on a CNN video of Emma Gonzalez.
Then I checked today.
This was probably around noon when I checked this today.
Now that same video is number 19 trending on YouTube with just about 750,000 views.
And the dislike to like ratio is even worse.
Look at it right there.
So these people are total losers.
25,000 dislikes compared to 17,000 likes, okay?
Now this is the same type of stuff that you see on the Young Turds videos.
The Young Turds get all dislikes too.
Look at our videos. You can just go to, that's one video that has a couple thousand views.
Guys, go to the Alex Jones channel and just go to one of my videos from a protest.
One of the most recent videos, it has like 120,000 views from the March for Our Lives protest over the weekend.
Let's just go look at the likes and dislikes.
I'm not planning this. I don't know what they are.
Okay, so there's one video with almost 100,000 views.
It has 4.7 thousand likes, 199 dislikes.
unidentified
Okay? Okay?
owen shroyer
They are the loud minority.
They use social media To prop up their arguments and pretend that they're winning the culture war, pretend that they're the ones trending, they're the ones dominating.
They're not. They're losing.
They're unpopular.
Nobody likes their opinion.
I'm even working on stories now.
I've got more people than ever that are telling me because of the videos I shot this weekend, they're actually reconsidering their current political views.
And it's not even about that they agree with my political views.
It's that they see the disgusting evil and the people yelling like brainwashed zombies in the streets and they just want nothing to do with that.
Nothing. So, just remember, CNN videos, MSNBC videos, Young Turks videos get more dislikes than likes.
You can't find an InfoWars video that gets more dislikes than likes.
You can't even find one.
So what do you think about that?
Now, just to expose the hypocrisy of these people, Al Sharpton's half-brother charged in murder after marching against guns.
The half-brother of Reverend Al Sharpton, also an activist whose group participated in Sunday's anti-gun march for our lives, has been charged in a shooting death in Alabama.
So now, Reverend Kenneth Glasgow, who marched for our lives against gun violence, has been arrested for gun violence.
Just like the other rapper speaker they had.
You know, I mean, it's just a joke with these people.
Again, here's more double standards.
This is from Vanity Fair.
Inside the secret meme lab designed to propel the hashtag never again beyond the march.
In an undisclosed strip mall location, wonder who paid for that, the survivors of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting...
No longer going to school. And a few key alumni alleys, also not in college, are building a social media content studio that might reform America's crazy gun laws.
Again, who's paying for that studio?
And so then you go look at this.
They got pictures. And the whole thing is how they're teaming up with social media to make their things trend on Twitter, on YouTube, on Facebook, whatever have you.
And you got these pictures.
Someone's paying for this studio.
Now they're all hanging out there.
They're not even going to school. They're just...
Using social media to push their gun control agenda, the same thing they get mad at Trump for doing.
I mean, it's just insane.
And again, who's paying for the studio?
Who pays for the buses?
Who pays for the security?
Who pays to have these marches?
This is from my home state.
Very proud of my home state of Missouri.
Missouri law allows armed teachers, but schools are using something else.
So now schools are actually going to hire private security.
But in Missouri, which is a constitutional carry state, probably top five, if not top state in the union for having constitutional gun laws, which is you have the right to own a gun.
No one's trying to infringe. And In Missouri, they're actually looking for solutions that are going to work.
They're not calling to take the guns away.
They're saying, let's have people on campus that are armed and know how to use their arms.
I don't think that school shootings are going to happen in Missouri if those laws are enacted.
But, Washerman Schultz has the plan to stop it.
She wants background checks for ammunition buyers.
I think we should have background checks for everything.
If you want to buy a lighter, you want to buy a firework, just check their background for everything.
Alright, when we come back, I've got a guest, Gabriel Kelderhaus.
You're not going to want to miss this story, folks.
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owen shroyer
All right, ladies and gentlemen, just some breaking news that I was trying to get the crew on and some of the other producers here to just see what's going on.
We'll have that on the other side, but that's why I was late getting back.
My guest is Gabriel Kelderhaus, and he was the center of a story on New Year's Eve in, well, from 2001 to 2002, the New Year's Eve.
Just to lay a little background, In fact, I'll let Gabriel come on and he can kind of lay the background for me.
But essentially, Gabriel moves to a new apartment with his family.
And he's got some trouble with his neighbors.
And they're kind of rambunctious.
And he continues to have spats with them.
And then on New Year's, there was a incident that led to them busting down his door with a barbecue pit lid and a baseball bat to come in there and perhaps even kill him.
And if it wasn't for his assault rifle that he had on him, he probably could have died and it may have saved his life.
Yet here we are today and a former Supreme Court Justice, John Paul Stevens, says repeal the Second Amendment.
Well, if that had happened prior to your incident, Mr.
Calderhouse, you might not be with us.
So tell us about your story and just give us a little background, what happened that night and how it was your assault rifle that ended up saving your life.
unidentified
Well, it was a long-standing thing with...
Some neighbors that had moved in and their extended family.
They had basically, for lack of a better word, they were a street gang.
Besides that point, I had made calls for three months to the police department, begging for their help because of the threats and things before it led up to this.
The day of the incident, when they came in through my door, That started at 11 o'clock in the afternoon when they started throwing the firecrackers.
This is important.
The ability to defend your family is very important because the police aren't there when they kick your door in.
I stood there with that rifle at my door at my threshold thinking of this, my little guy.
Who was upstairs, who just turned 18 because of my Second Amendment right to bear arms and have the right tool for the job.
There was three that ended up shot in my apartment.
After they basically had just beat me to a bloody pulp with the smoker lid.
And that's the one I remember the most, was the ding, ding, ding, ding across my head as they beat me back into the hallway.
I thank God every day that I have my God-given right to protect my family and that the Second Amendment was there.
It was that high-capacity magazine that stopped the other 10 or 20 that were there partying that night, getting fueled up, just ready to take, well, basically me out.
I could have called the cops if my phone line was on.
I could have driven out of there if there wasn't 10 out of there in the parking lot and got in my vehicle.
But my tires were slashed.
These people were meant to do my family harm.
And they wouldn't have come in given the opportunity even looking at the weapon.
And they still came in when I said don't.
So for these people, especially this David Hogg guy who says there's no need for it and all this stuff, And what kind of person?
I'm a CNA. I take care of people that are at their last.
Doing a job that nobody really wants to do because I love people.
And I don't want to see harm to them.
And if these people need somebody to blame, they need to blame the welfare worker that didn't do their job with that kid.
The teacher that didn't push it.
The cop, I really don't want to use that word, being that my father is a retired police officer, and he would have never stood outside.
That's just cowardice.
All of those people, all the way up to that Mr.
Sheriff, if it's an ands or buts and all that, whatever crazy stuff, who's a politician and not a sheriff, they're not there, and until people can instantly teleport, Right at the instance of a crime when people are in your home beating you with your wife and your not even two-year, just two-year-old baby.
Upstairs. And there's a gang.
What do you do when there's a gang?
It happens. Not everybody can afford to live.
owen shroyer
And I would imagine considering the circumstances that these individuals were probably inebriated given it was New Year's Eve.
I don't see any of that in the reports.
And this story did make the news, especially there in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
And it was a 22-year-old young man, an 18-year-old young man, a 27-year-old young man, all younger than me.
And I can only think about what's going through their heads while they're deciding to act violently, invade your apartment, and try to do harm to you and your family.
And like you said, I can tell you're getting emotional just thinking about it.
But like you said, you thank God that you had the God-given right ensured in this country that you could protect yourself with your rifle.
unidentified
Oh, yes, sir. You know...
I just wish that people, you know, like this guy says, what kind of people do this?
What kind of person uses your child as a political tool with its ends to disarm a free people?
How do you use your child to do that?
This kid, I understand.
He went through tragedy.
I understand that.
More than he knows.
I've had to look into somebody's eye and take their life and live with that every day.
And if you think that I feel like Superman because I shot a bunch of people and it's like Hollywood, it isn't.
Because you've got to live with that every day.
And you see it every day after that happens.
But it's still worth my son turning 18 this year.
owen shroyer
Well, I just...
Yeah, and I just don't understand the logic.
Again, you were faced with a situation, whether it had been a gun, a barbecue pit, a baseball bat, where somebody, an aggressive assailant, was coming after you trying to do harm.
And so what is the best method of protection?
In this case, it was your rifle.
You had it, you knew how to use it, and you took care of the situation as it needed to be taken care of to protect yourself and your family.
And I sit here and I look at the situation with these Florida high school students and I'm thinking, look, Some guy comes into your school with a rifle, calling the police isn't going to stop him from shooting you.
Hiding in the closet if they come find you isn't going to stop him from shooting you.
Marching against gun rights isn't going to stop him from shooting you.
Passing gun legislation isn't going to stop him from shooting you.
The only thing that's going to stop him from shooting you is having equal force, which in that case would have been a rifle.
Why don't they understand this?
unidentified
That's absolutely correct.
Instead of shying away from guns and shunning the NRA, the schools should be embracing the NRA and bringing back proper training and firearm knowledge so our youth can learn to use the gun's responsibility, you know, to be responsible with their weapons and use it for what it's intended for.
It's very important.
They should embrace the NRA, not shun it away.
The NRA keeps our rights and keeps us safe because governments can change and they can come and take away your rights if you just want them to.
Slave owners were able to keep their slaves because they had the weapons.
I don't want to be a slave.
I want to be an American and have my freedom and be able to take care of my family.
And I'm sure that I'm not the only one out there that feels the way I do.
I wish that the rhetoric would just, people would take a deep breath and realize that this happened because people didn't do their job like that sheriff who's more interested in pointing the blame at somebody else than saying the fuck stops here like a Truman would have done.
People need to learn from their hands.
owen shroyer
We've got to take a break. We'll be right back with Gabriel Kelderhouse on the other side.
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So, Boss Hogg calls for gun control, which isn't about guns.
It's just about control.
And just to kind of give you a perspective about how we deal with things around here, this is kind of funny.
We're literally fighting AI now.
We are literally battling AI every day here.
The link is on Drudge now.
YouTube puts warning on satirical Hogg video.
Now, I may be outing ourselves here and setting ourselves up for some trouble, but they're going to do it anyway, so I just want to try to explain to the audience what we deal with.
We put out the video yesterday, I think I played it three times because it was so good, of David Hogg's speech at the March for Our Lives side-by-side with Hitler Audio, essentially.
You know, that's our free speech right to do.
Just put out a video.
And I remember sitting here with the crew and we're like, they're going to flag that.
They're going to do something with that.
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No, that title will get flagged.
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Basically the same video, not the same video, but a different title, it gets flagged.
That's the algorithm. That's the AI. So we literally fight AI here at Infowars just to make sure we can get videos out.
That's what we do here every day.
Back to my guest, Gabriel Kelderhaus, who was at the center of a story on New Year's Eve, January 2001, when a group of, I don't know this, I haven't seen this in any of the reports, but it was New Year's Eve,
and based on the way they were behaving, I would assume they were inebriated, but either way, dangerous individuals, they went into his apartment, busted the door down, one was hitting him with a barbecue pit lid, one was swinging a baseball bat, Again, these are weapons that you can use to kill people.
We're not calling to ban those though.
But luckily for Gabriel, he had his assault rifle.
He knew how to use it. He executed his Second Amendment right.
And the courts all found him innocent.
And they said that the killing was justified because he was protecting his life.
Gabriel, is there any other aspects of this story you want to talk about with our audience?
Is there anything that we missed?
Is there anything that we didn't cover?
unidentified
You know, I don't really think so.
I just think that people, what I hope that they get from this, is that it's really easy to think that those things don't happen where you would need this tool to protect your family.
But it does happen.
And everybody that says that it never happens and this is America and, you know, this flighty thought that a single shot will do it is ridiculous.
Until evil stops happening, we need our rights so we can protect ourselves.
That's all about being American.
That's what my father fought for and, you know, your father probably fought for too.
That and I want to thank you and I want to thank Alex Jones because I've never told this story to anybody.
That's why there's not much in the paper because I never really wanted to talk about it.
I was too busy trying to stay alive.
I couldn't take my family home.
So I was in a motel afterwards and I just felt it better to try to go back to work and all that.
And rebuild my life.
So I never talked to anybody and I never really trusted anybody.
So it really means a lot to me that there's people like you and Alex that listen and were willing to let me tell people so they have a warning for themselves.
If they take it away, you have nothing to protect your family.
And if it's just you and your wife and your kid, and there's numerous amounts of people coming into your door, and they're beating you to death, believe me, you'd want that gun.
And I bet you those kids in that school wish that their teachers had guns on them.
owen shroyer
Yeah, at least I think the majority of them do, but they don't give them the airtime.
So that's kind of how the fake news works.
They only shine the light on the ones that claim they want the guns taken.
But you take a look at your story, and Gabriel, thank you so much for sharing it with us.
You know, I know that reading these stories, you did not give any comments to the press.
So I really do appreciate you.
And I understand why you want to make a story of this now, considering what's happening.
But you look at your story and you say, okay, here's a situation.
Where you have violent people that want to do harm to an individual and his family, and you have another individual who just wants to protect himself and have his family protected, and you just take those two elements.
Now you throw in the other elements of, okay, well...
Which group of these people had a gun, and which group of these people had a bat and a barbecue pit lid?
Well, it was the bad guys that had the bat and the barbecue pit lid, and it was the good guy that had the gun.
So let's think about it.
If we repealed the Second Amendment, like a former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens said to repeal the Second Amendment, if we enact more gun control, if we take assault rifles or any rifles from people, and then you're in this situation, what happens to you?
Take a bat and a barbecue pit to your head and threaten your family and there's nothing you can do about it.
So what happens if you enact gun control or take the rifles?
You, the good guy, are now a victim.
unidentified
Can I say something about this Supreme Court guy?
I think they need to test him for drugs, honestly, okay?
Because either he has an agenda to enslave us, it's just that simple, or he's on drugs, or he's got dementia, because something's wrong there where he thinks that we shouldn't be able to stand up for ourselves.
Even if it was a foreign...
You know, invasion from another country.
There's a reason why we all have that ability and why our forefathers fought for it and thought it's so important.
And the fact that they're pushing so hard right now with what they're doing with the censorship for like you and InfraWars and Steven Crowder and, you know, Lawrence Southern, all that.
You know, and now it's like we want to push the guns and then all they want to do is put Trump down and say how he's a bad president when the only problem they have with Trump is that he has a little thing that people forgot.
It's called honor and it's called following through with your word and a truly American thing.
Actually meaning what you say and doing what you can to follow it through.
He may not be perfect and he's not perfect and no man is and I don't care all these people that are throwing stuff.
At him, I'll bet you if you look in their closets, I'll bet you you've got a few things in there that they're probably not too proud of, too.
owen shroyer
Trump is actually working hard, too.
I mean, that's one of the admirable things, too.
He's actually working. He's calling people.
He's getting these deals done. But again, what law would have stopped the individuals from going into your house and potentially killing you and your family?
None. None.
But it was your Second Amendment right that saved you and your family.
Gabriel, thank you so much for sharing your story with us.
unidentified
Closing words here. I just, you know, I just, like I said, I hope people can take this, you know, and learn something from it that's positive and that maybe we can all just take a deep breath and maybe support each other and realize with all this censorship and stuff that is just designed to take us apart, when we really need to just stand together as Americans and realize that our freedoms are under attack.
And that we just need to love each other.
So we're not having to defend each other, you know, or defend our homes and our kids.
And just treat each other with some respect and some love like Americans are supposed to do to each other.
owen shroyer
Well, I know that you... Well, and I know that you went through hell because of this story, but I bet you'd do it again to protect your family's lives with that rifle.
Thank you so much. Thank you so much for joining us, Gabriel.
So there goes Gabriel Kelderhouse sharing exclusively his story here with Infowars.
Powerful story. Really tells you why we have the Second Amendment, folks.
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roger stone
Welcome back. I'm Roger Stone, and I'm joining you from sunny South Florida, as you can see.
Well, today is a very special day.
We're going to try something a little different.
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It appears that way.
In any event, everybody should know what their color is, Owen.
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The only thing grayer than his suit was his face.
He'd just gotten out of the hospital.
Anyway, that's how he lost the 1960 election, other than the fact that probably in the final days it was stolen.
Let's move to our phone calls, if we can, see if we can pick one up before we move along.
owen shroyer
Sure, we can. We've got some callers already lined up.
Let's start with TJ, who is calling in from Texas.
He wants to talk about guns.
unidentified
Go ahead, TJ. Hi, this is TJ. Not a guy, but that's okay.
owen shroyer
That's perfectly fine. Go ahead.
unidentified
I wanted to say that I don't think the final solution for safety in the classrooms is guns.
I would like to say it's an attitude problem.
My son had an active shooter drill and they taught him to hide and lock the doors and that made me angry.
I think that they should get angry.
And I told him, don't you dare do that.
pick up whatever is there, and if other bodies throw something at the shooter, then he's bound to get distracted.
You outnumber the shooter, staff and students, hundreds to one.
You've got a lot of gunmen in the school.
owen shroyer
Yes, but TJ, don't you feel that it's a more practical solution instead of having students hurl objects at a shooter with a gun to have someone on the scene that could actually fire a gun back at them and perhaps stop them?
unidentified
Yes, that is, you know, an optimal situation.
However, maybe the person who is armed is not available at that instant.
But you have shoes, you have books, you have chairs, you have all these things that you can start the activity with.
You don't have to wait for someone to come and rescue you.
My husband fended off two attackers at our front door with coffee mugs and they had a gun.
You just have to have the attitude that, no, I'm not going to let this happen.
owen shroyer
So it's more, I think I see where you're going.
So it's more of the wussification of America, just, you know, bend over, hide, and wait until someone else gets there type of thing?
unidentified
Like, you know, duck and cover for a nuclear bomb.
owen shroyer
For real? Yeah, like that's going to stop you.
roger stone
Roger, what is your response to TJ? Well, you know, I understand exactly where she's coming from.
It reminds me of those fellows on the doomed airliner on 9-11 who made a decision to try to overcome and overtake one of the hijackers.
You do have that obligation, but in this case, there was supposed to be an armed person there to protect those students.
And that person appears to have failed in their duty.
And that is what we're disappointed in.
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You're at the War Room, and I'm joining you from sunny South Florida, connected by magic to my colleague Owen Schroyer at the mother ship in an undisclosed location outside of Austin, Texas.
So, we're going to go back to the phones.
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Let's go to the phones here, Owen.
I'm going to let you choose our next caller.
owen shroyer
Sure thing. We've got Danny calling in from Virginia.
He wants to talk about high-capacity ammo.
Go ahead, Danny. Hey, Owen.
unidentified
Hey, Roger. Great to be on.
jefferson in virginia
The value of a high-capacity magazine is that it gives you discretion.
You can choose where to send bullets.
You don't have to kill people. You can send warning shots and still know you have bullets in reserve to use to kill them if they keep coming at you.
People don't seem to recognize that it gives you flexibility.
owen shroyer
So as opposed to, sure, sure, as opposed to, say, you know, a shotgun that may carry only six shots at a time or a double barrel that has two or a pistol that may only have 16, you're saying you have a high-capacity magazine, you have more control of the situation.
jefferson in virginia
Exactly, and the person that's coming to attack you recognizes quickly that you have ability to warn them and kill them.
owen shroyer
And that also is an edge in that situation is your opponent not knowing what you have.
Roger, what do you think about what Danny said?
roger stone
Well, it would just seem logical that any weapon did not have to be quickly reloaded and had limitations would give someone in that situation greater flexibility.
You could warn them.
You could disable them.
You could kill them if you had to.
And that would seem to me to be just logical.
What I don't understand about this entire debate is how anyone, including all of those terrific Kids who are marching over the weekend can believe that just because a product is outlawed that it will not be plentiful for the very people we don't want to have it.
Criminals, the mentally defective terrorists, and so on.
It has not been true in the prohibition of alcohol.
It has not been true in the prohibition of drugs.
It will not be true here.
All it will do is to hamper the law-abiding citizen who wants to own a gun for their own production.
All it will do will hurt them.
But there will always be a black market for firearms, for hardened criminals and terrorists and those who are willing to shop the black market, which would include crazy people.
I don't understand why the liberals cannot figure this out.
Thank you so much for your caller.
owen shroyer
Call. Well, that's not the only thing liberals can't seem to figure out.
And now with the new developing technology of 3D printing, you can print a gun, you could print a magazine.
I mean, you know, who knows what that technology could offer in the future as well.
All right, let's go to Chris in Utah.
He has a question for Roger.
unidentified
Go ahead, Chris. Hello, I'm here.
owen shroyer
All right, Chris, what's your question for Roger?
unidentified
First off, it's an honor to be speaking with you, Owen and Roger.
roger stone
Thank you. Very kind.
unidentified
I think there's a huge, huge growing problem in a day and age where we have internet, we have information at our fingertips, and yet we have young people that are being fed a narrative that these guns are the problem.
And yet, no one wants to research Genghis Khan.
Who was Genghis Khan?
At a time he lived where the population on the planet was roughly 400 million people, no man has ever taken over and killed more people than he did.
It's estimated that he killed 40 million people.
And the guns weren't even around.
So... Context and information and logic, there's not getting its way to these people, and it's almost like they're being spoon-fed.
They don't want to even have to research things.
owen shroyer
Well, keep in mind, I covered the story last week.
You've now got schools that want to remove history from the curriculum, so that might have something to do with it.
But Chris, very coherently, you just stated your last points, but you did have a question for Roger.
Do you want to go ahead and ask Roger that now?
unidentified
Yes. Okay.
Looking at the political landscape, Roger, the omnibus that just got signed in, the upcoming elections, the whole thing, from where you're stationed on the battlefield, what do you see?
Where do you see things going?
What's in the back burner?
What are you working on? And maybe some deep insight that maybe you would like to share.
roger stone
Well, first of all, any Republican who's hitting the panic button now saying, well, we're going to lose the House is a defeatist, and that doesn't necessarily have to be the case.
The situation is extraordinarily fluid.
In the background is the Mueller investigation and whether or not Prior to the election, he's going to release a report which is damaging and accusatory of the president, something that could theoretically stand as the basis for legislation for the impeachment of the president in a new democratic house.
I believe in the end this is the issue the Democrats will run on.
It's essential. The Republicans run on job creation, growth, and prosperity.
It's also entirely possible...
My bookie or my broker, I'm not sure which one.
It's entirely possible, however, that the president could emerge from North Korea with some kind of reasonable peace deal, something that includes the denuclearization of North Korea, in which case all of the bets for the election will be off.
It's just much too early to determine on what issues this will turn.
The Democrats will run on impeachment and removal and hatred of Donald Trump.
It's essential that Republicans run on a positive economic vision in terms of job creation, trade, the fact that we have 3% GDP.
We had never better results.
We averaged 1.5 under Barack Obama.
It was almost recessionary.
We have doubled it.
We've increased the GDP by 100% under Donald Trump.
This is extraordinary, and Republicans who run away from him will be making a grave mistake.
Thank you so much for your call.
owen shroyer
Well, I hope that wasn't your bookie, Roger.
A bookie only calls for one reason.
Let's now go to Stephen calling in from Victoria, British Columbia.
unidentified
Go ahead, Stephen. Roger and Owen.
Thanks for taking my call. You're welcome.
Go ahead. I want to say I'm calling from Victoria, BC, and we really need help finding our version of Trump up here.
But my question to you guys is this.
As you know, Carter Page was a paid informant of the FBI and he basically helped the FBI put some Russians in jail in a previous court case a few years ago.
So they used Carter Page as their pretense to spy on the Trump administration.
Also, Paul Manafort had been under investigation for several years.
Both of these guys mysteriously end up on the Trump campaign.
And so my question to you would be, can we figure out or do we know who recommended Carter Page and Paul Manafort to Donald Trump?
Because that person...
Knew that both of those people We're already working with the FBI, or at least we're already under investigation, and we're pretty easily being blackmailed, and they were the pretense, they were the reason that the FBI spied on the Trump campaign.
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We are in the war room with Roger Stone, and he is taking your phone calls.
888-201-2244.
Our last caller, Stephen, had asked Roger about the appointment of Carter Page, how he was used in the FISA scandal, how he was also used as an FBI informant, and his role from the very outset, perhaps, in question with the Trump campaign.
He was curious, Who recommended Carter Page or was there perhaps some shenanigans going on with that recommendation?
Roger, what's your response?
roger stone
Well, let me take a two-part question.
Let me address Mr. Page and then Mr.
Manafort. This is the first time I've heard that Page acted as an FBI informant.
But if he is the FBI's effort to infiltrate the Trump campaign, they don't do very well.
Page is a volunteer.
He has no pass card to get into the offices.
He has no office.
He's not on the payroll.
He has no authority.
He's a member of a 100-member foreign policy advisory group along with others.
He has one meeting with the candidate, which is taken really for the purposes of meeting with your experts and having a picture taken.
It's hard to believe that he has any real input into the campaign.
I don't believe I'd ever met him, but then I read someplace that he evidently attended one of my book signings.
I signed a book for him.
He told me he was a foreign policy advisor for the Trump campaign.
And I asked him if he was a neocon making a joke.
In any event, I doubt that he was doing anything he wasn't.
And he's not been charged of any meaningful collusion with the Russians.
Was he self promoting around Russia and selling himself as being extraordinarily connected to the Russians?
Was he looking at them as a future payday?
Perhaps.
As far as Paul Manafort is concerned, several things are important to understand.
The Trump campaign was at a juncture where, although they had been rolling up delegate victories, they had not been paying attention to who the state chairs in every state or the state committee was appointing to all important Republican National Convention committees.
Rules and credentials and the platform is where nominations can be stolen by party establishments who have superior knowledge of those rules.
Paul Manafort had been a convention manager for Ronald Reagan, for Gerald Ford, for Bob Dole, and was because of his status as a native Connecticut, as I am, the last state in the country to select its major statewide party nominees the last state in the country to select its major statewide party Manafort was a master of the convention process.
Donald Trump needed someone who could make sure he wasn't robbed by Ted Cruz in the party establishment.
Manafort was the right man at the right time.
I was among those who recommended him for this job, but there were certainly others.
I cannot take credit for his appointment.
He is a longtime and close friend of Tom Barrack, the finance chairman of the largest pro-Trump PAC and probably Donald Trump's closest friend.
Now, as to whether he'd been investigated, that is true.
He was investigated for his business activities in Ukraine at a time that the U.S. government was essentially performing a coup in Ukraine where we overturned a democratically elected government that our government recognized essentially at knife point.
Not a referendum, not an election, not an impeachment, but an overthrow of the government and even in some cases partnering with neo-Nazis in Ukraine to do so.
That investigation, which I believe included wiretaps, was closed.
No evidence of wrongdoing by Manafort could be found.
Later, an investigation is reopened.
When? Well, about the time that Paul Manafort goes to work for Donald J. Trump.
A politically motivated effort, in my opinion.
Now, according to the New York Times, on January 20th, a headline we put up here many times at Infowars...
It was reported on the 2017, January 20th, 2017, that Roger Stone, Carter Page, and Paul Manafort had been the subject of FISA warrant requests by the intelligence agencies and that wiretap data from those surveillances was being used in an investigation into potential Russian collusion.
The New York Times has never retracted that statement.
Therefore, I've always assumed that my own email, my own text messages, my own phone calls have been thoroughly examined.
There is no evidence of Russian collusion among them, as we have discussed on many occasions.
So I hope that that long dissertation puts into context both the Carter Page and Paul Manafort appointments.
Thank you very much for your call.
owen shroyer
Alright, Roger, let's now move on to Jonathan calling in from Canada.
Go ahead, Jonathan.
unidentified
Thanks, Owen. My question is primarily for Roger Stone here, but I just want to do a quick praise for you, Owen.
I watched some of your livestream at the most recent rally in Austin, and I thought it was rather classical when you were talking to that young videographer with the Young Turks t-shirt and asking her about her views.
And she made the comment of, I aspire to work for them because it's a legitimate news source.
And then through conversation, those two...
Kind of hippie liberal guys started acting crazy and you're like, do you really want to end up like this?
Like, do some research, ask questions.
owen shroyer
Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Yeah, she started following me around.
She had the Young Turts shirt on.
She wants to work for the Young Turts.
It was pretty funny. I think she may have actually had her eyes opened a little bit that day because that moment you were talking about where that crazy liberal starts shouting at me, she was like, whoa, I don't want to be like that.
unidentified
I think the reason she follows you is just like Trump, you get ratings on YouTube.
So my question is for Roger Stone.
How do you stay in alignment with your spiritual truth when you go out there?
I believe in the power of spirit and What kind of flows from within and through that helps inspire other people to kind of be in their source.
But how do you stay? Do you just actively meditate?
Do you have a little morning, evening ritual to kind of stay in sync?
So when you're out in the battlefield of your day-to-day, how do you stay energized?
roger stone
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First of all, I have a deep and abiding faith in God.
I am not a very good Catholic, but I'm a Catholic, and I'm, of course, a sinner like we all are.
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And then, of course, I'm still lifting and I'm still running.
Not as much as I should because of bad knees.
But keeping on the move are absolutely crucial.
The liver, of course, likes movement.
So thank you so much for your very centering question.
owen shroyer
All right, we'll be back with more calls from Roger Stone on the other side.
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roger stone
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owen shroyer
Alright, let's go to Mick in Missouri who wants to talk about Zuckerberg and what's going on with Facebook right now.
Of course, Roger's involved with litigation with Twitter banning him from having free speech.
unidentified
Go ahead, Mick. Hi, thank you so much for taking my call.
I actually wanted to present a theory on why Mark Zuckerberg is bailing on Facebook.
Back at Davos, Soros gave a speech where he said Facebook and Twitter have to go because they helped get Trump elected.
And I wonder if this is what he said coming to fruition.
owen shroyer
What are your thoughts, Roger?
roger stone
Well, very clearly, Facebook and Twitter are trying to bend over backwards to effectuate this purge of conservative thought from our communication mainstream.
You see it in their manipulation of YouTube.
You see it in the antics of Google, the entire anti-competitive monopolistic activities to crush everybody else in the marketplace.
And now it is interesting that the tech left has an enormous wound over the sharing of information.
The exact privacy issues that we have been talking about for years, which if we keep storing our data in China will become security issues.
This is the greatest single fight of our time.
This is a fight over free expression and whether or not we here at Infowars are going to be slowly, painfully strangled to death.
Because that's what they have in mind.
Take us off of Facebook or so manipulate our algorithms on Facebook so as...
God, I'm having like a David Byrne experience here.
It's interesting. Whether or not they can remove us from Facebook or Twitter or just limit our reach, take us off of YouTube entirely, crimp our style at Twitter and any other reasonable social medium.
This isn't something that's conjecture or may happen.
This is happening today.
Facebook pages with literally millions of pro-Donald Trump supporters and freedom-oriented voters are being arbitrarily shut down, out of business, gone, history, kaput.
Even before our very eyes.
So if the Trump administration does not wake up to the fact that their entire success is due to this free and vibrant and robust alternative communications network that is social media and protect his interests there, guarantee equal access to the marketplace by everyone, then he will surely fail.
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owen shroyer
Why, thank you. Why, thank you.
And I will also respond to Mick.
As far as George Soros' comments at Davos, I'd have to hear a little more context with that exact comment to respond to that.
But... As far as Zuckerberg, now he's going to have to testify and everything that's happening with Facebook and the data mining.
I was reading Forbes today and they put out their list of the top 10 wealthiest people on...
I can't remember if it was in America or I think it was in the world.
But regardless, Zuckerberg was number four on that list, I think, with something like $70 billion or something.
I don't know if you guys can find this list.
Forbes put it out today.
They're always doing this. But I'm scratching my head.
I'm saying... Where is Zuckerberg making all of this money?
I mean, billions and billions of dollars?
I mean, who pays to use Facebook?
Sure, he might get some thousands of dollars in ads.
Sure, he could even maybe get up to maybe a million dollars in ads.
But we're talking about tens of billions of dollars in wealth that somehow Mark Zuckerberg has been able to acquire.
How is that? There he is, number five.
He's number five on the top ten.
Hey guys, click it. Let's see how much money he's at.
roger stone
You can see he cannot afford a suit, unfortunately.
Even though in the number four position, he's still wearing a t-shirt and a hoodie.
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So I'm scratching my head. I'm saying, well, how does Zuckerberg acquire all of this wealth?
Is he selling your data?
Is that how he's making the money?
Is there something else going on?
I mean, that's my, and I think that maybe now that the left is attacking Zuckerberg, Roger, because we know they eat their own, so now they attack him because of this Facebook Russia nonsense to try to attack Trump.
Now he's feeling the heat of being eaten by the left, and he's kind of curious about where he stands in all this.
roger stone
It's an interesting question.
In all honesty, I actually think Facebook has been moving very rapidly to submit to the demands of the globalists.
So I don't think they're adverse to George Soros at all, other than the fact that they may not be strangling us quite quickly enough.
Secondarily, I think that Zuckerberg's in trouble today because he screwed up.
And therefore, he must have put profit ahead of his political agenda.
And that's not the first time that's happened on the left either.
But I don't think that he is being purposely collapsed by Soros.
That's just an opinion. Thank you so much for your call, though.
owen shroyer
I'd have to agree with you on that.
I don't think that Soros is trying to take down Twitter or Facebook again, though, to comment on whatever he said at Davos.
I'd have to hear the context of that.
But there's no doubt Facebook is under heavy scrutiny.
Zuckerberg is feeling the heat.
Whether that's because of something else with the data mining that we don't know the full story of or whether the censorship that he's being called out for or whether that's the left attacking their own now and trying to bring Facebook down.
I'm not sure, but I think that Zuckerberg, who's kind of a weakling to begin with, he doesn't know what to do.
He's running to this testimony for cover, I think.
Alright, we'll be right back. One more segment.
Your questions for Roger Stone.
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roger stone
It's Ask Me Anything Tuesdays.
This is going to be a new tradition around here because Owen Schroer and I both enjoy taking your calls.
Let us now go back to the phones and get in as many calls as we possibly can here in our final segment.
owen shroyer
Owen? Let's go out to California to James, who wants to talk about Trump's war on opioids.
Obviously, Roger, this is something that Trump has put in the crosshairs.
unidentified
James, go ahead. Yeah, thank you for taking my call.
First time caller. The question I have is...
Do you think Trump is kind of going a little overboard on the war against opioids?
And I know that includes heroin, which obviously is bad, and it also includes people's pain pills, which, you know, could be bad if they get addicted to them.
But, for example, my friend's mother is very elderly, and she had a problem with her knee.
She could barely walk, and then recently her doctor said, oh, just take some Tylenol.
And there's... Such a huge amount of the population, especially the elderly, and a lot of them tend to be on pain pills.
And if they view Trump as taking their pain pills away, I'm just wondering if that's going to cause a backlash against the Trump support.
owen shroyer
Okay, I think I understand your question.
So the question for Roger is what type of potential political impact or negative political impact could Trump have with the war on opioids from perhaps elderly people that need them?
roger stone
Roger? Well, frankly, there are better things for those elderly people.
I am, of course, an advocate of state-legalized cannabis for medicinal purposes.
There is an opioid crisis in this country.
Opioids are over-prescribed very aggressively by the pharmaceutical industry.
The big pharma has been caught red-handed paying doctors to push these pills that are extremely destructive.
For people who are gravely ill, the quality of life is horrific.
So there's a better answer.
I don't think that Trump is cracking down on the little old lady who gets her prescription filled once a month at the local CVS. He is cracking down on pill mills that are overprescribing this to people where it's doing more damage than good.
These are life-destroying drugs.
And there's a clear alternative.
The Israelis today are treating PTSD with medical marijuana.
Medical marijuana has been legalized in 29 states, heading soon to 35.
It's a better answer.
And, of course, President Trump, in his campaign, although he is not a supporter of marijuana, he is a supporter of states' rights.
And he did say that it was up to the states to decide whether or not there should be legalized medicinal marijuana, as 29 states have done.
Now, unfortunately, as you know, Jeff Sessions is going out of his way to stage a proposed crackdown on medicinal marijuana.
This will not only cost the country millions of jobs, but it will deprive literally millions of people who have been legally depending on what they use as medicine for their health problems and needs.
So it's a violation of a promise the president made.
It's counterproductive.
And it really, I think in the end, could cost the President millions of libertarian and younger-oriented votes if the President doesn't stop session soon.
This is why I formed the United States Cannabis Association, the coalition, pardon me, the U.S. Cannabis Coalition, with diverse support from Bill Maher, Judge Andrew Napolitano, Congressman Matt Gaetz, Curtis Sliwa of the Guardian Angels, and many others.
So it's important that we make that switch and that we support the President's views on cannabis.
I don't think the opioid war is a mistake.
I think it's the right thing to do.
Thank you so much for your call.
owen shroyer
Yeah, Roger, I would echo what you're saying.
I think that opioids are a huge problem, especially when they prescribe them to young children.
And the doctors just hand these things out like candy because that's essentially what they're told to do.
They probably get some kickback, too.
I mean, I don't know exactly how it works, but that's kind of a plain view of it.
But I also agree with you that I think the political blade of marijuana is a lot sharper than the political blade of opioids.
However... I can see a situation where a group like the ACLU, perhaps not the ACLU in this case, but a group like the ACLU, some left-wing, liberal agenda, anti-American cult group Sends out a message to the elderly and says, Trump's coming for your pain kills.
Trump's taking your drugs.
Trump wants you to be in pain all day.
So it does kind of worry me from that regard.
However, he needs to move forward and do the right thing with the war on opioids, even if the left will try to demonize him for it, because that's the right thing to do.
So echoing what Roger's saying there.
Let's take another call.
roger stone
Oh, and let me say one other thing.
You could have had a great future as a dirty trickster.
Thinking of that particular messaging.
So let's go back to the message board.
owen shroyer
Well, unfortunately, I have to go into their heads every once in a while, Roger.
Let's go to Frank calling in from Virginia.
jefferson in virginia
Go ahead, Frank! Yeah, speaking of dirty tricks, is Roger aware of whether President Trump is aware that he can call Congress into an emergency session and what the penalty would be for someone that didn't show up?
roger stone
You know, the president is not a political veteran.
He didn't serve eight years as vice president, like, say, Richard Nixon, or three years like former Senate President Lyndon Johnson.
And I think, for example, for some period, his lawyers convinced him that it was inappropriate for him to issue orders to the Justice Department, which is, of course, an extension of the executive branch, which the president has full authority to give orders to, to as long as those orders don't pertain to him personally which would just fools is hard to say
Many, many times I'm surprised at the things that the president's staff should tell the president as someone who's not a lifelong swamp creature and hasn't.
The president was somewhat surprised that the JFK documents were scheduled for release and that he had the authority to either let that release go forward or knock it off for another 25 years.
For example, General Kelly and his staff should have informed the president about that.
The good news is that he learned it in sufficient times to make a good decision, one that will be revisited because there are still a substantial number of the JFK assassination documents that were mandated by law to be released and have not yet seen the light of day.
Additionally, the original act of Congress required that the federal government publish in writing in the Federal Register, the National Archives and the Intelligence Services, a justification for any redaction.
Unfortunately, large areas in the JFK assassination documents released at the order of President Trump have been redacted without explanation.
The American people have a legal right to know why this was redacted.
I'm bringing this to the attention of Senator Grassley and Congressman Walter B. Jones Jr., who I think is one of the great champions and the great heroes in terms of full disclosure on these issues.
owen shroyer
Frank, was there anything else that you wanted to ask Roger?
jefferson in virginia
Well, I actually wanted to talk to you, Owen, about...
Your anti-gun confiscation rant against Mao and Hitler and Stalin, I think you need to update it.
You need to remind people that we should never forget that Dick Cheney took the guns from the pilots on 9-11, and that resulted in hijackings.
And that's what they want to do to our country.
They want to take our guns so they can hijack it.
owen shroyer
No, that's exactly right.
You can use all these arguments against gun control, but they just don't hear it.
Frank, they just don't hear it.
But the good angle that you have there is throwing Cheney in there.
See, they despise Dick Cheney so much.
I'm no fan of Dick Cheney, don't get me wrong here.
But their hatred of Cheney is there, so perhaps you attach Cheney to gun confiscation, then maybe they hate it as much as they hate Cheney.
These are the types of mind games I try to play with the liberals.
Thank you so much for the call, Frank.
Roger, we've got 80 seconds left here.
Departing words for our audience today.
roger stone
I will try not to arrange a hunting trip for you with Dick Cheney.
owen shroyer
Please do not.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, here's the deal.
owen shroyer
It's not just that they'll get Trump impeached if the Democrats win the House or win Congress in the midterms.
They will confiscate the guns.
They will come for the guns.
They will come for the Second Amendment.
And they're starting to show their face.
So... If it's not going to be Trump that energizes people to the polls in the midterms coming up, it's got to be the Second Amendment because this could be the last chance to save the Second Amendment from the Democrats who want to take it.
Now, Erica Thomas is a state representative from Georgia, and in Georgia they filed a bill a few years ago, HB 731, And it's just another step in the seizure of firearms.
And they put a bunch of rhetoric out there, but it's the same agenda.
Get guns out of law-abiding citizens' hands because those are the only people that will follow the law.
Criminals will still have the guns.
But then she goes on Tucker Carlson last night and ups the rhetoric.
Again, this is the call to take the Second Amendment from the Democrats.
tucker carlson
What do you think would happen if law enforcement, pushed by Democratic politicians, tried to take the guns from law-abiding Americans?
What do you think the effect would be?
unidentified
Well, you know, I'm not talking about taking guns from law-abiding citizens.
I'm talking about a ban on assault rifles.
We are not trying to promote a militia.
What war are we going at that we need assault rifles?
Yes, protect the citizens.
tucker carlson
I mean, I don't want to argue with you, but here's the legislation that you supported in Georgia, the last assault weapons banned Democrats in your state push, and I'm quoting from the legislation right here.
The Georgia Bureau of Investigations shall seize and take possession of any assault weapon, large capacity magazine, armor-piercer bullet, or incendiary.50 caliber bullet.
Shall seize and take possession of.
That's not voluntary, that's mandatory.
So you've got hundreds of thousands of people in your state who own weapons that you say are assault weapons.
Are you worried that someone might get killed if law enforcement comes, you've done nothing wrong, and say, we're taking your gun away whether you like it or not?
What do you think would happen? I mean, it's worth thinking that through since you're supporting a law that would call for it, don't you think?
unidentified
You know, what I'm worried about is when the Constitution was made and when the Second Amendment was made, it stated that, of course, the Second Amendment.
But let's talk about when it was made.
That was when assault rifles, you had to take several minutes to reload an assault rifle.
And now it's several seconds.
So let's review that law.
tucker carlson
Technology is very different. No, I agree.
unidentified
But let's review that law again.
tucker carlson
Okay. You keep dodging my question, and most people do, but I think it's important because we're getting to a point where actual legislation has been sponsored and will be again saying that the government needs to take people's weapons by force.
And if you really care about preventing deaths, I wonder if you're concerned even a little bit that there might be a violent reaction to that.
Is that a crazy thing to suggest?
unidentified
You know what? It's not a crazy thing, Tucker.
You're totally correct. By force is not what we want to do.
tucker carlson
That's what the law says. That's the law that you supported.
unidentified
I live in Georgia, and in Georgia we are a red state.
I'm not about taking anything by force.
tucker carlson
Then why did you support a law that says that the state shall seize and take possession of these guns?
unidentified
What I support is saving lives.
And what saving lives is, is ban on assault rifles.
These kids are out here and they are stating that we need to get a ban on assault rifles.
tucker carlson
I think we both agree we're both against killing, of course.
owen shroyer
So there it is last night.
Now, the Second Amendment is in serious peril, folks.
So Alex Jones is coming back into the studio tonight, 630 Central, to do an emergency broadcast to cover all of this that's going on, the attack on the Second Amendment, and how we need to energize Americans to get out in the midterms to vote for someone who's not going to confiscate your guns, not going to come for the Second Amendment.
So that is going to be Alex Jones live at 630 tonight.
On the other side of this break, Steve Pachenik joins me.
We're going to talk about John Bolton, talk about what's going on with North Korea and China.
Do not go anywhere. This is The War Room.
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Well, Kim Jong-un is on the move. Kim Jong-un is on the move.
owen shroyer
- First, he's having historical meetings with South Korea.
Now he is rumored to be in China for the first time ever for a special visit to China.
There is mystery surrounding this visit, but it does appear that Kim Jong-un was in Beijing today meeting with China.
Of course, this is ahead of Trump planning on meeting with Kim Jong-un.
You wonder what might be being discussed behind closed doors there.
So we bring in Dr.
Steve Pachenik to discuss this, as well as John Bolton.
But, Steve, let's first start.
With Kim Jong-un going to China for the first time ever to meet with Chinese diplomats.
Of course, this is before he's about to said to meet with Trump as well in a historical meeting.
What does this mean?
What is Kim Jong-un going to China mean?
What do you think they're discussing?
And what does that mean for the upcoming meeting with Trump and Kim Jong-un?
unidentified
Dr. Steve Pechenik. Well, I don't think it's the first official visit.
steve pieczenik
I think Kim has been in China before, but we don't talk about it.
Kim is very close to President Xi, and what they're going to discuss are the specific trade-offs in terms of the embargo that was levied on North Korea and on China.
And I think Xi understands very well that The reason in Barndo on steel and on other metals, aluminum, is it's hurting him to a certain degree.
But what he does want is he wants trade.
And he wants trade with the United States very badly because he's a net exporter.
And in turn, he knows he can have a very good Actually, Trump has a very good relationship with Xi.
And my suspicion is he will have a very good relationship with Kim Jong-un because he understands him.
I think Kim Jong-un wants to open up North Korea.
And I will predict, although I won't stand behind it necessarily, I will predict that Trump will help Kim Jong-un to open up North Korea and possibly there will be a Trump hotel event.
Because North Korea is tired of being isolated and what most people don't realize is that really North It's the slave pool for the South Koreans.
One of the reasons the South Koreans don't get very upset about North Korea is because about 20 to 25 percent of them work on the border of the DMZ and further inland for South Korean companies.
So there's been this detente for quite a while, and North Korea has all types of relationships all over the world.
It'll be very fruitful.
And I think Xi will act in a very important way.
owen shroyer
So you're not of the mindset that perhaps Xi and Kim Jong-un could be, for lack of a better phrase, plotting against President Trump or plotting against the United States?
You think that these are good meetings and Kim Jong-un is actually open-minded into bringing North Korea into the arms of the rest of the civilized world?
steve pieczenik
Oh, and I want to remind the listeners and everyone, I usually ask this one question to people who question me about North Korea.
Have you ever been to a Swiss boarding school?
And most people, of course, have not.
I, by chance, have been, and I was kicked out of one.
But Kim Jong-un was in a Swiss boarding school of And what I'm getting at is that contrary to the image of this young man being crazy and isolated, he grew up in a very sophisticated environment in Switzerland.
The whole family, including the grandfather Kim Il-sung, they have a compound in Geneva.
And they've lived there for quite a while, and he went to school in, I think, the Germany.
He's quite sophisticated. He has Western products.
He likes our basketball.
He understands America.
What he's concerned about, and this is a legitimate concern on his behalf, and I've expressed this to other parts of our own internal discussion, is that Kim Jong-un has watched Saddam Hussein and Qaddafi, and he's seen what's happened when we've taken away their weapons, whether it's nuclear or whatever, and they tend to be deposed.
And what he's concerned about is some kind of guarantee will he not be deposed once he denuclearizes.
And quite frankly, he doesn't have a very effective nuclear system.
It's been used primarily as a bargaining chip.
I think Bolton knows that.
I think John understands that.
And certainly Only Generals Kelly and Mattis understand that.
We're not in any way ready to go to war or will we go to war with North Korea.
It's not feasible.
There is no upside on it.
owen shroyer
And I think that you may have just answered, at least in part, my next question, but I think you can go into a little more detail.
So what does it then take, because it sounds like this is what Kim Jong-un wants, at least at this point, what does it take for North Korea to become a part of the international commerce, to become a part of the global commerce and global travel industry?
What does it take for North Korea to get there?
steve pieczenik
Basically, Kim Jong-un has to open up the borders and have a free trade exchange between the United States, South Korea, Japan.
And Japan, Abe, and President Xi of China, as well as President Moon of South Korea, really have to guarantee his bona fides.
And more importantly, they have to allow us to inspect their nuclear systems and plants.
And once that's opened up, and I think that will happen, then trade will come in at a very fast pace.
As it is now, North Korea does have trade.
It's surreptitious, but it's a very effective trade.
The Japanese have traded with the North Koreans.
Many other countries have traded with the North Koreans.
And they usually go through China or some other intermediary country.
It's not a very difficult process.
Once Trump sees that the opportunity is there and he can see there's an upside, and I've mentioned the upside several times to our own people, that this would be a real major success for Trump.
If he were to open up North Korea, and I would venture to say this would afford him the opportunity to have a Nobel Peace Prize, along with Kim Jong-un, President Xi, and whoever else would be involved, President Moon.
Because it's not been done in 30, 40 years.
So this is a first of its kind.
That's what I'm predicting.
owen shroyer
And of course, there's all kinds of benefits, and it moves, I think it would move North Korea and South Korea one step closer to reaching some sort of agreement, you know, peace treaty, what have you.
But I want to get into the psychological aspects of a Kim Jong-un.
You know, this is a young guy.
Records actually have his age at multiple different ages.
He could be anywhere, according to these records, I mean, I don't know, anywhere from 36 to 34.
But he's kind of a young guy.
And he's been in power for a long time, but he is kind of a young guy.
Do you think that he admires a guy like Trump?
Do you think he looks at a guy like Trump and says, I want to learn from this guy, I want to observe what he has to say?
Or does he come at Trump as kind of a power monger and think that he's bigger?
What is his psychology? Is he meek to Trump or does he think he's bigger than Trump?
Or what do you think his psychology is?
steve pieczenik
I know. His psychology, if I were to understand him, is probably akin to the psychology of Kushner.
Both he and Kushner grew up in a very wealthy family.
Both he and Kushner have understood what money means and what wealth has done for them.
And both of them have a certain sense of entitlement that they believe they are owed the wealth and the freedoms that they've accrued for themselves.
In turn, Kim, I think, has advisors who will clearly advise him that, look, This is the time for you to break open what your father had hoped for.
And actually, his father, believe it or not, was an executive producer of daily TV shows.
And our intelligence operatives didn't know that until I had to hand him a book that he had written.
So he's grown up in a very sophisticated...
He's kind of a little bit spoiled.
I would say he has to respect his elders, which is an Asian custom.
He will be deferential to Trump.
I think that Trump amuses him as he amuses Trump.
And I think both of them understand that if they work together, they're going to get themselves a nice Nobel Prize and probably make a lot of money in this deal.
So there's a lot of upside to a kid who's gone to Swiss boarding school, believe me.
You can't underestimate what happens in a Swiss boarding school because you get the best and the finest that money can buy you.
It's not a question of merit as much as it is a question of wealth and family.
owen shroyer
Well, it sounds to me like right now you're optimistic about Trump and Kim Jong-un reaching some sort of agreement and North Korea not being whatever it's considered of a communist hellhole as it is today and perhaps opening its doors to the rest of the world.
We'll have more of that in John Bolton on the other side with Dr.
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Welcome back to the War Room.
owen shroyer
I'm your host, Owen Troyer.
Dr. Steve Pachenik is our guest.
Normally, when I sign off at 6 p.m.
Central Time here from the Infowars World Headquarters in Austin, Texas, that's it for our live program.
But Alex Jones is coming back this evening at 6.30 Central to do a special emergency broadcast to protect the Second Amendment.
You've got a former Supreme Court Justice, John Paul Stevens, saying, repeal the Second Amendment.
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So Alex Jones is going to be breaking all of that down at 630 Central with a special broadcast you're not going to want to miss.
But in the meantime, Steve Pachenik was just breaking down the Trump-Kim Jong-un relations and what Kim Jong-un may have been doing in China.
And I wanted to talk about John Bolton, but you know what?
I just realized something that I wanted to talk to you and I had forgotten.
But this is actually key to me.
Because they're trying to demonize Russia.
You got this story now.
Six countries are going to boycott the 2018 World Cup because it's in Russia.
I mean, screw you. This is about bringing people together.
It's not about your political agenda to make Russia look bad.
But you have this story.
The Russian spy gets poisoned in England, okay?
And immediately everybody blames Russia.
Trump hopped on board. It's all the Russians' fault.
I'm not saying Putin hasn't perhaps done this in the past, or Putin is a great guy, but I look at the circumstantial evidence, this to me looks like a British poisoning attack on this Russian spy.
But I wanted to hear your expertise.
What do you think the deal is with that Russian spy that got poisoned?
Why do you think it was poisoned?
And why are they blaming Russia so quickly?
steve pieczenik
You know, you asked me that last week, and I kind of...
I took it aside. I said, that's not very relevant.
And I still believe it.
I mean, I understand why you're asking me.
The issue of a spy being poisoned one way or the other is a false issue.
I mean, it has no relevance to any national security problems.
It has no relevance to England per se, other than if England wants to do trading with Putin or other issues that are at hand.
What issues this disguise is I'm not exactly clear because Russia has gas and oil pipelines that are going into Europe and at any moment they can shut it off if they want.
One thing I've learned dealing with the Soviet Union and with Russia, you don't mess with Russia.
If you want to mess with the Russians, you're getting into big problems.
And most people really have not had the experience that I've had since the 1970s to spend time both in the Soviet Union and Russia.
Putin is who he is.
He has no bones about it.
He's an East German intelligence officer.
He grew up that way.
He's proud of Russia.
I can understand why he's proud of Russia.
Russia really did win World War II.
They lost 20 million men and they have a pride to deal with it.
What he does with his own foreign operatives or he doesn't do, that's his business.
If England wants to create some problem and our intelligence system thinks that's so important, I think they're off track.
There are far more important things they have to deal with than dealing with some spies or alleged spies who were killed.
owen shroyer
So it's more of just the media spin to demonize Russia.
steve pieczenik
Well, it's a distortion and distraction from what really is going on.
And what really is going on is that we have to finish up the wars in Syria.
We have a problem.
Russia is doing a lot of heavy lifting in Syria.
We were grateful for two years ago, and now we have to confront the Russians.
These are the military, and we don't want to get involved with the Russians militarily, and we're trying to protect the Kurds while the Turks attack the Kurds, and Russia has been a very helpful A superpower in the Middle East.
I mean, the king of Saudi Arabia just visited Putin.
Bibi has been running up to Putin and complaining to him about the Middle East.
And in effect, Putin has become the schoolmaster of the Middle East on our behalf.
And Iran and Russia will be a formidable force.
As I said years ago, and I predicted on the Alex Jones Show, there will be three major powers.
That's Russia, Iran, and Turkey.
Iran representing the Shiites and Turkey representing the Sunnis.
At the same time, we've tried to put pressure, and Mattis has done this and others, on the King Samal of Saudi Arabia to tell them to pull out of Yemen.
You've created a lot of destruction.
You've created millions of homeless people and hundreds of thousands have been killed.
And we don't talk about it.
So all these protests about guns are totally distractions.
owen shroyer
And I want to get us back focused on one thing because you brought up Russia and Syria.
And then the crew showed me that story about Nikki Haley berating what's going on in Syria.
I mean, Nikki Haley seems to be spinning in circles right now.
But you had...
Most of ISIS driven out of Syria, the Russians coming back in, part of that, also sweeping.
Then they find 40 tons of quote-unquote chemical weapons left behind by the Syrian rebels, and somehow it's not a news story.
So there's a chemical attack in Syria.
Everybody blames Assad. It becomes a national news story.
The rebels get cleared out.
They find 40 tons of chemical weapons, and it's not a news story.
Well, what the hell is that, Dr.
steve pieczenik
Perchenik? Well, that's, again, the distraction, distortion.
You have to remember, the reason we got into Syria was very early on, I said to Alex, and this was before you came on board, now I'm happy that you're on board, is that Hillary and Petraeus and Panetta and the Clinton and Obama administration had made amazing Now we're paying for that disaster.
We have al-Qaeda, we have ISIS rising up in Libya.
She has defanged the entire country.
She has literally destroyed the Middle East as a result of her need to attack.
Gaddafi who kept everything in line.
And ironically, we don't even talk about France right now, that has incarcerated the President Sarkozy, who was involved in the invasion of Libya, but in turn received $50 million from Gaddafi.
So the amount of corruption, the amount of incompetency that was both in the CIA and Brennan and the Clinton administration, And Gary has been forgotten.
It's as if it's gone away.
As was Orlando, as was Sandy Hook.
And this governor is a total jerk.
I mean, he's trying to run for the Senate, and he's a total disaster.
He's allowing big corporations to come in and pollute our waters.
And the real answer is these kids have nothing else to do.
They're spoiled, they're entitled, and in terms of education, they're ignorant.
And it's getting worse and worse.
We are becoming a third world country as a result of, thanks to their attention to guns as opposed to education, the fact that our teachers aren't very good, the fact that we don't have money for education, and the fact that we don't care about education.
While China is increasing capacity, the Chinese speaking...
owen shroyer
Oh yeah, Chinese students get like 30 days off a year, where American students get like three months off a year.
But I'm We're almost out of time here.
Just real quick, concise, what are your thoughts on the John Bolton appointment?
steve pieczenik
Well, I know John. Personally, John and I have always gotten along.
I know John to have been.
He avoided the draft in Vietnam.
I'm not happy about that.
I knew John went into Iraq, I think.
That was disgusting.
But John can serve a purpose.
And the purpose he can serve is to be the hard line as a leverage point in the negotiations against Kim Jong-un.
But he's going to report to Kelly, General Kelly and General Mattis.
And they don't have the same kind of patience that Richard Armitage had to have John report to him when he was Deputy Secretary of State.
And Richard Armitage is an incredible...
Military hero in our world.
owen shroyer
Alright, Dr. Steve Pacinic, expertise and insight always helpful here on The War Room.
Thank you so much for joining us.
We'll see you again.
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Donald J. Trump is president of the United States.
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Trigger warning.
This broadcast contains subject matter that might trigger liberal snowflakes.
It's The War Room with Owen Schroeder.
owen shroyer
And the brainwashed political left is marching to turn their rights over to the government.
They're literally marching against their own rights.
And now the Democrats are trying to pass legislation to quote-unquote seize firearms.
So Alex Jones is going to be doing an emergency broadcast tonight at 6.30.
Just an hour from now, 30 minutes after the war room here concludes at 6 p.m.
Central. You're not going to want to miss that.
In the meantime...
Yesterday, and I've been talking about this for some weeks now, about how...
One of my debate tactics, if you want to call it that, when I'm engaging with liberals is to box them into a corner, which is very easy to do.
They're very predictable. Their identity politics will always reign supreme.
So it's very easy to manipulate a liberal into a corner and then give them their own medicine and watch them respond.
They want you to be on defense.
You need to put them on defense.
Well, my next guest, Jessie Lee Peterson, did just that when dealing with some gun protesters over the weekend.
Check out this classic clip of a woman, first of all, lying about what Jessie is doing, but then, for the first time, being forced to defend herself against the liberal brainwashing propaganda that they try to put on us.
unidentified
You don't see anything wrong with bullying children?
These people are children.
owen shroyer
There's literally no children. You can see the pictures here.
unidentified
There's no children. Yeah, you are bullying children.
No children in this image.
He's in their faces.
This guy's reporting this guy bullying children as if it's okay.
owen shroyer
So see here, pause it right there.
Pause right there. So that's one thing.
So this is their new thing. Say, you're bullying children.
You're bullying children. So that's the new thing they're going to try to put us on defense against.
But watch how Jesse turns the tables and puts the liberal in a corner So he's asking her do black people have the right to free speech?
unidentified
And she won't answer. They're the ones that make it about race.
You are in the face of young children.
This lady hates black people.
jesse lee peterson
This woman hates black people.
unidentified
No, no.
jesse lee peterson
This woman hates black people.
owen shroyer
Watch her defend herself.
unidentified
This lady hates black people.
Racist. Racist.
This woman hates black people.
owen shroyer
Now look at her take defense.
Now she's on the defense and she can't talk.
unidentified
And she's been defeated. See, that's what you do.
owen shroyer
And that's a perfect example.
You turn the tables.
You put their argument that they want to use against you on them.
Then they go into defense mode and have nothing to say.
Wow. Great work, Jesse Lee Peterson there on the streets.
Just unbelievable. And you did exactly what they tried to do to us.
And then when you put the mirror up to them, they kind of got silent there, didn't they?
jesse lee peterson
That's right. Thank you, Owen, for having me on.
And I've been saying to people who are on the side of the truth, I say, look, the children of the lie do not have a solid foundation.
Their house is built on sand.
And if they can't intimidate you, if they can't get away with deceiving you, they have nothing.
So what we have to do is turn the table.
And the last thing that these people want to be called is a racist.
So what I did, I turned the table on her and you saw the response.
I'm telling you, man, if we can get the men and women of the truth to stand up and fight back with this, we can win this war overnight.
We can no longer afford to be afraid of these people.
They don't have the truth on their side.
We do. No, exactly.
owen shroyer
And as soon as you point the finger at them and say racist, they're all going to go into hiding.
They will literally go into hiding and they won't say anything.
Jesse, I'm not even kidding you. When your crew sent me that video, I was watching it this morning.
I was sitting down watching it.
When you turned the tables on her and started saying, you're a racist, why don't black people have free speech?
I literally jumped out of my chair and started cheering.
And then when your cameraman started going, racist, racist, I just burst into laughter.
I was jumping up and down.
I mean, it was just so perfect.
But first she lies and she says you're bullying children.
There's zero evidence of that.
So she already tries to stake some claim against you where there's no evidence of it.
And then all you have to do is say you're a racist and then she goes back into defense mode.
That's what I'm saying. You can easily put them into a corner and then they're easily defeated.
jesse lee peterson
That's right. And they use the word bullying children because they know every person is going to back down if they say, you're bullying children.
But I understand that that's a setup too.
That's a setup to control me.
I'm not giving into that.
And even after the shooting happened down in Florida, if you notice, the first thing that the liberals did, the children of the lie, they brought out the children, and they started to brainwash the children, and they used the children to try to take away our rights to bear arms.
And if you're not aware of what's going on, who's gonna stand up to the children?
Who's gonna talk about the children, right?
But it is not about the children.
These people can care less about the children.
They are using the children to destroy our rights to bear arms and also to go against the NRA because they really want to get rid of the NRA and then they want to get rid of the great white hope, President Trump.
And so they are using the children to manipulate and control.
And I pray to God that the folks who are on the side of good do not fall for it.
Because if we do, we're going to lose this battle.
owen shroyer
And they're the ones that bully us when they say that stuff like you're bullying a child.
That's bullying you to silence your First Amendment right.
But, you know, as you said, they're using these children.
And the important aspect of this is that a child, especially at that age, not only has a very impressionable mind.
But let's remember, when you're that age, you're really into popularity and being cool and trying to be in with the in crowd.
I mean, that's what the average teenager is doing, whether they're in the in crowd or not.
That's how they're thinking.
And so you combine that.
With the social media hype, and so now you've got these individuals that want to be cool, they're on TV, they're getting the social media hype, all because they're pushing this message that they really don't know anything about, they don't know the history, they don't understand it, but they're cool, they're popular, they've got the check mark on Twitter,
they're on TV. So they're going along with it because they're getting the benefits of popularity and claiming they're cool, and then the establishment Democrats and liberals that are using them go along with it too because they get to push their gun control and claim you're a bully if you dare speak out against what a child said.
jesse lee peterson
This is so amazing to me to see that you are 100% correct.
We have a video coming out a little later where I went out there and I interviewed downtown Los Angeles and I interviewed some of the children.
They had kids there as young as 10 and 11 years old.
And so I gathered around these kids.
The teacher allowed me to talk to them.
And all the kids were saying the same thing.
Oh, I'm afraid at school.
I don't want my life to be taken.
I'm afraid of gun violence.
And then there was one little girl in the crowd, a little black girl, and she was looking at me, so I asked her, why are you here?
She said, because I don't want to get killed in school.
And I asked, do you think that your teacher should be armed with a gun?
She said, yes.
And as soon as she said yes, the teacher rushed over to her and started pulling on her arm, trying to get her to be quiet.
And I asked, well, why do you want your teacher to be armed?
She said, because if my teacher is armed, then they can't kill me.
And at that point, that interview was over.
owen shroyer
Oh, yeah! And so they had to...
Yeah, yeah, so they pulled the kid away.
See, that's amazing, too. I had a similar experience where I was monologuing for a moment in my live video, and I'm like, look, here's why we have the Second Amendment.
And there was this young child who was listening to me, and her eyes were open, and she was engaging and absorbing.
And the mom comes over, puts her hands over her ears, and drags her away.
These people hate free speech.
These are the Nazi control freaks.
Gun control is not about guns.
It's all about control.
We got another segment with Jesse Lee Peterson on the other side.
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They use their schools to teach children that their president is another Hitler.
They use their movie stars and singers and comedy shows and award shows to repeat their narrative over and over again.
And then they use their ex-president to endorse the resistance.
All to make them march, make them protest, make them scream racism and sexism and xenophobia and homophobia, to smash windows, burn cars, shut down interstates and airports, bully and terrorize the law abiding.
Until the only option left is for the police to do their jobs and stop the madness.
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owen shroyer
Infowars.com All right, final segment of the War Room here today.
My guest is Jesse Lee Peterson.
I'm going to get back to him in a second.
I want to just mention this news story that broke today that is so important.
Vegas police say MS-13 arrests helped solve 10 murders.
Now, MSNBC says MS-13 really doesn't exist unless you are an alt-rider.
But here's why this is important.
So again, the headline of the New York Post published today, Vegas police say MS-13 arrest helped solve 10 murders.
Okay, now, do you understand that Sanctuary Cities is...
Sanctuary cities are protecting criminals, protecting murderers.
Libby Schaff aided and abetted these criminals when she alerted them that ICE was on the way, that law enforcement was on the way.
So do you understand how important this is to push out there, to show the left how sanctuary cities make cities more dangerous?
But then they say, turn in the guns in for safety, but have sanctuary cities so violent criminals can have sanctuary in my city.
The double think, the hypocrisy, the madness of these people.
It's so frustrating, it can only be described by saying they're mentally deranged.
Period. That's it.
Brainwashed, mentally deranged.
If you don't understand, after this story, Vegas police say MS-13 arrest helps solve 10 murders, how Libby Schaaf, the mayor of Oakland, is aiding and abetting violent criminals and even murderers with sanctuary cities and alerting them when law enforcement is coming.
You don't understand anything.
So now the left has officially aligned with ISIS and officially aligned with MS-13, the most murderous group of people known to this country in the modern age, and they want them in your city protected.
But turn your guns in, you horrible American.
MS-13, ISIS, you're fine.
We've got the sanctuary city.
Murder, rape, whatever you want to do, cool.
Our mayors will stand up for it.
You, law-abiding American, turn your gun in, scum!
And that's what we deal with now.
Now, here's another clip and I want to explain this.
I'm going to tell the story about this on the other side.
You might not understand the story by just seeing this clip, but I'll explain it on the other side with Jesse Lee Peterson.
Look at this one woman who really embodies exactly what the average white woman thinks about their liberal policies and black people.
unidentified
Can you see this?
Shut him down.
owen shroyer
She's holding up a sign of a black person saying, can you see it?
unidentified
What is 30?
No school are we watching.
We want people.
If we need us.
owen shroyer
Shoving a sign of a black person in his face.
unidentified
No.
You're lying.
We are you lying.
You're lying.
jesse lee peterson
You hate black people.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
If that's what you want to do.
You hate yourself.
jesse lee peterson
Do you hate black people?
unidentified
You hate yourself.
Why are you doing this?
owen shroyer
I don't even know what that is.
She points to the sign. She says, look at my sign.
unidentified
Black person.
jesse lee peterson
Is that me? No.
Why are you showing me a black person?
unidentified
Because. Why? Why?
Because I am.
I'm working for black and white.
jesse lee peterson
And so you shouldn't be another black animal?
owen shroyer
Yeah, you know what? So there she tries to virtue signal to Jesse Lee Peterson, a black man, like, look, I have a sign of a black man.
I'm your friend. And meanwhile, she's holding up a no-hands-up-don't-shoot sign, which is the story is apparently a racist police officer killed the unarmed black man, but they want the black man unarmed.
So they hate the police.
They're all racist. They're killing people wantonly.
Trump is Hitler. Turn all your guns into the police and Trump.
Yeah, so no logic. But Jessie, I'm watching that clip, and she tries to virtue signal to you.
She's like, look at my sign.
I love black people.
That's how they think. They literally think because they hold a sign with a black man and virtue signal that all of a sudden they're not racist and they understand everything.
I mean, how offensive was that to you?
jesse lee peterson
You know, it's another form of manipulation and it shows a lack of respect.
And I've said for a long time that these liberals, these godless children do not respect black people.
They don't think that blacks are capable of doing it for themselves.
And that's why she held that sign up so that I can think and believe that she cared about black people.
She doesn't understand that I know that they are using black people.
They don't care about black people at all.
And that's how I saw that.
But I got to tell you, Owen, I had the best time of my life out there because it was good to shake up their world, to turn it on them rather than allow them to turn it on me and control me with that.
owen shroyer
Well, and you being out there, staking your claim, not backing down, and then giving them a dose of their own medicine, it's perfect.
Because it shows who they really are.
I mean, you saw it, you're like, wait a second, you hate black people.
And she goes, no, no, look at my sign.
And you're like, I don't give a damn about some sign.
jesse lee peterson
Who is that? I don't care. But you know, I got to say something.
I'll ask you a question. You said something just before the break that caused me to rethink an issue.
You said that these people don't like free speech.
They claim to like free speech, but they don't.
Well, what I think I realized, and maybe you can correct me, they do like free speech.
As long as it's what they want to hear.
As long as it's a lie.
But they don't like free speech of the truth.
Because when you're speaking the truth freely, it awakens people.
It causes them to see.
And I think that's the part they don't like about free speech.
And I've noticed how they attacked the president.
When the president tells the truth, when you tweet out the truth, they hate that because the president is awakening people to see how evil these other people are and how they're manipulating.
owen shroyer
Well, that's exactly it.
That's why they don't like free speech because it's not free speech.
It's only their speech.
It's controlled speech.
Like you said, they claim they're for free speech until...
Jesse Lee Peterson has free speech, and then they don't like it.
They want to grab their kids, run them away, put their hands over their ears.
But I just noticed this. Jesse, did you know the woman whose virtue signaling to you about that sign, I just realized it.
They printed those. They mass printed them.
Look, there's one in the background there, too.
Yeah. So that wasn't even her sign that she made.
They mass printed those things and handed them out, and then she's acting like that's her sign.
I mean, these people are total fakes, even the street minions.
jesse lee peterson
That's right. Their signs and everything were perfectly made up.
There's somebody behind these folks who are using them.
They made these signs up.
In some cases, they picked them up on buses, especially a lot of the children.
They went and picked them up and brought them to this rally.
They told them what to say.
I even asked some of the little kids, who told you to say what you're saying?
And they said, the teacher told me this.
I heard this from my teacher.
So they're literally brainwashing these kids.
Somebody is like Oprah and others, Hollywood.
They are putting in a lot of money.
This is thought out.
This is planned perfectly in order to destroy us, to take away our rights.
These people are not out there on their own.
They've been brainwashed. They don't realize that they are being used.
owen shroyer
It's really sad. And all you're trying to do is open up a mind and make them truly free again and enlighten them to the truth.
And there's the image. The crew just had it.
The multiple signs. These people are totally fake.
They act like it's their sign.
It's not their sign. It's a mass-produced sign, mass-printed sign.
Jesse Lee Peterson, always a pleasure to be joined by you.
Thank you for your courage in going out there and sending me that video.
JesseLeePeterson.com, at JLPTalk on Twitter.
Great stuff as usual, Jesse.
Just excellent street work.
jesse lee peterson
And thank you for what you're doing, man.
I appreciate you. And thanks for having me on.
owen shroyer
Absolutely. And we'll have you on again soon, I'm sure.
All right, ladies and gentlemen. So we're about to sign off here today.
Again, though, given the attack on the Second Amendment, The attack on free speech.
The attack on info wars.
Democrats now proposing legislation to seize firearms.
Eric Holder saying we need to brainwash the youth every day in schools into thinking differently about firearms.
So they admit they brainwash the youth.
They admit they're brainwashing these children into turning over their guns and hating guns.
That's what's going on.
That's why we are here fighting against it.
And that's why Alex Jones is going to be live in 30 minutes.
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You know, I just watched a video in Brazil.
The drug cartels are currently engaging in gun battles with the police.
You know that there's strict gun laws in Brazil.
They're not allowed to have those guns.
How did those drug cartels get those guns to fight the police?
You see, repealing the Second Amendment is not going to work.
The Second Amendment is the answer.
So ladies and gentlemen, we will continue to defend the Second Amendment Literally until we die.
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